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1 root 1.391 >Damit d<FC>rftest du der zweite Mensch sein, den ich kenne, der sich mit
2     >einer so spartanischen Hardwareausstattung zufrieden gibt:) Ich selbst
3    
4     Mein Arbeitsplatz ist eine HP 715/80 - also 80 MHz. Da drauf laeuft der vi
5     immer noch genauso schnell wie vor zehn Jahren :)
6    
7     Bye, Andy
8     %%
9 root 1.390 [ka.uni.rz.stud, warum betsimtme zeichen in passwörtern verboten sind]
10     >einem Passwort nicht zul<E4>sst, das kann ich nachvollziehen, aber wieso ein
11     >Dollarzeichen, Leerzeichen, Klammeraffe, Doppelkreuz, Prozent, doppelte
12     >Anf<FC>hrungszeichen, Paragraph und was es da noch so alles gibt? Und wieso nur
13    
14     Dollarzeichen: DCE kann nicht damit umgehen.
15     Leerzeichen: sind nur am Anfang und Ende eines PW verboten - es gibt
16     System, die das wegstrippen :(
17     Klammeraffe: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Kill-Zeichen (stammt
18     halt noch aus der Zeit, als Fernschreiber als I/O-Geraete benutzt
19     wurde, und ein Fernschreiber, der druckt, kann per Definition kein
20     Backspace o.ae. haben - Tipp-Ex-Baender waren nicht eingebaut :)
21     - und es gibt eben noch Systeme, die zum lokalen Login diese STTY-
22     Settings benutzen. Seit wir die VT100-Terminals abgebaut haben,
23     ist das fuer Studenten weniger relevant, unser BV behandelt aber
24     alle Benutzer.
25     Doppelkreuz: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Erase-Zeichen
26     Prozent: Mift, das hab' ich mir nicht aufgeschrieben, geht aber auch in
27     irgendeinem System nicht. Vielleicht sollte man es mal wieder
28     probieren (bis es knallt)?
29     Doppelte Anfuehrungszeichen: Wurden von Radius als Begrenzer benutzt. Ja,
30     der Radius-Server funktionierte nur mit Klartext-Passwoertern :(
31     Ja, funktionierte, Vergangenheitsform, er ist jetzt endlich tot :)
32     Ja, damit kann ich die doppelten Anfuehrungszeichen freigeben :)
33     Paragraph: ist kein ASCII-Zeichen. Das kann die lustigsten Probleme geben,
34     insbesondere wenn verschiedene encodings benutzt werden - IMHO gibt
35     es auch Implementierungen, die das 8. Bit wegschneiden...
36     %%
37 root 1.389 [subversion is just plain broken. I just lost all my local modifications, right?]
38    
39     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
40     svn: Working copy '.' locked
41     svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
42     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn cleanup
43     svn: 'programs/mythlcd' is not a working copy directory
44     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
45     svn: Working copy '.' locked
46     svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
47     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn help cleanup
48     cleanup: Recursively clean up the working copy, removing locks, resuming
49     unfinished operations, etc.
50     usage: cleanup [PATH...]
51    
52     Valid options:
53     --diff3-cmd arg : use ARG as merge command
54     --config-dir arg : read user configuration files from directory ARG
55    
56     [Thanks for the details. Not.]
57     %%
58 root 1.388 But there's an observation I can't help doing: it seems to me that the
59     ratio of increase in the complexity of (some aspects of) the language _is_
60     _much_ _bigger_ than that in the functionality such complexity is supposed
61     to provide.
62     - perl6-language - michele dondi
63     %%
64 root 1.386 [From: perl6-language]
65    
66     The fact that there's not alot of active p5p'ers on this list should
67     alarm people more.
68    
69     -Nate
70    
71     [...]
72    
73     My take on that is that it is because Perl 6 is not a new version of
74     Perl 5. I still think "Perl" is a misleading name, and mostly hurts the
75     image of the language that is created here.
76    
77     Juerd
78    
79     [...]
80    
81     (Oh, and that perl6 will never be able to upgrade my scripts that use
82     'format', but I'm aware of the plan to make that `obsolete' as in: the
83     perl526 translator will dump core on those)
84    
85     --
86     H.Merijn Brand
87 root 1.387 %
88 root 1.385 Die Firma Microsoft warnte asiatische Regierungen am Donnerstag,
89 root 1.388 dass diese patentrechtlich verklagt werden könnten, wenn sie das
90 root 1.385 Betriebssystem Linux anstelle von Microsoft's Windows-Software einsetzen.
91     Nachrichtenagentur Reuters (18. November 2004)
92 root 1.387 %
93 root 1.384 [Come on, "kidtalk"???]
94     http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx
95 root 1.387 %
96 root 1.383 [Priceless :)]
97     http://www.scottmccloud.com/comics/icst/icst-6/icst-6-full.html
98 root 1.387 %
99 root 1.382 [http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/15/1312216&from=rss]
100     >> I hate it whenever Word tries to encourage me not to use passive.
101     [...]
102     > Okay then, translate "The window has been broken" into active voice.
103     "Windows is broken."
104 root 1.387 %
105 root 1.381 [Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon on the perl6-language list:]
106     Removing features simply because their implementation is inconvenient
107     is not The Perl Way. If it were, Perl 6 would be Java With Sigils.
108 root 1.387 %
109 root 1.380 [Incidentally, the USoA is one of the two countries on earth that insist
110     on being able to kill their children legally]
111     http://www.post-gazette.com/breaking/20040329pornp6.asp
112 root 1.387 %
113 root 1.379 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test]
114     The Miller test is the United States Supreme Court's test for determining
115     whether speech or expression can be labeled obscene [...]
116 root 1.387 %
117 root 1.377 [http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050923-5346.html]
118     "They find the anti-pornography crowd disturbing because they believe
119     that policing pornography violates fundamental rights. This has become
120     the dominant view in our society: As long as what I do doesn't harm you
121     personally, I have a right to do it. It's a silly view and a view rejected
122     by law enforcement policies all over the country."
123 root 1.378 --
124     "What we really need is less government and more common sense. The Bush
125     administration thinks it can win the war in iraq, the war on terror, the
126     war on drugs, and the war on smut while establishing a lunar colony and
127     rebuilding New Orleans, all without raising taxes. He really needs a
128     reality check. I can't believe that with all of this crap going on, Tom
129     DeLay has the balls to claim that the republican party has eliminated
130     wasteful government spending."
131 root 1.387 %
132 root 1.376 [Attaching 72lbs to spam-reply-envelopes is legal. Do it!]
133     http://www.vertical-visions.com/_temp/postagepaid/index2.html
134 root 1.387 %
135 root 1.375 [Charley Tart on Consensus Trance: <SLAP> <SLAP> Wake up!]
136     http://www.cantrip.org/charles_tart.html
137 root 1.387 %
138 root 1.375 ["It's such a moving story, it must be true"]
139     http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=246277
140 root 1.387 %
141 root 1.374 [Pencil Carving]
142     http://www.infofreako.com/jad/enpitsu-e.html
143 root 1.387 %
144 root 1.374 [Copyright]
145 root 1.373 http://www.bromsun.com/practice/copyrights/flowchart.html
146 root 1.387 %
147 root 1.372 [Die Wirtschaft befreit die Menschen von der Arbeit]
148     http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/stz/page/detail.php/949236
149 root 1.387 %
150 root 1.371 23:10 <mmead> schmorp: A federal appeals court ruled today that the president can indefinitely detain a U.S. citizen
151     captured on U.S. soil in the absence of criminal charges, holding that such authority is vital to protect the
152     nation from terrorist attacks.
153     23:10 <mmead> A congressional resolution after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks "provided the President all powers
154     necessary and appropriate to protect American citizens from terrorist attacks by those who attacked the United
155     States on Sept. 11,'' the decision said.
156     23:10 <mmead> The decision by a three-judge panel was written by Judge J. Michael Luttig, who sources have said is under
157     consideration by President Bush for nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court.
158 root 1.387 %
159 root 1.370 [Looks extreme]
160     http://www.counterpunch.org/
161 root 1.387 %
162 root 1.369 [Some glimpse of what happened in New Orleans]
163     "As we approached the bridge, armed Gretna sheriffs formed a line across the
164     foot of the bridge. Before we were close enough to speak, they began firing
165     their weapons over our heads."
166     http://www.livejournal.com/users/malbec/1052572.html
167 root 1.387 %
168 root 1.368 [Global Average Temperature vs. Number of Pirates]
169     http://www.sheise.de/files/PirateGraph.jpg
170 root 1.387 %
171 root 1.367 [http://www.fefe.de/nowindows/]
172     Many people using Windows don't care about their freedom. They do care
173     about quality software and for that reason try to replace all the user
174     space software from Microsoft with better free alternatives. This is the
175     sole reason for the existance of cygwin.
176 root 1.387 %
177 root 1.366 [http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/trusted_computing/20031001_tc.php]
178 root 1.387 %
179 root 1.366 The TCG has resisted defining "owner" for purposes of their spec, despite
180     several requests for clarification.
181    
182     Think of it this way: most computer-related "stuff" now has a "licensed,
183     not sold" tag attached. Ask yourself again, then, who has ultimate control
184     unter TCG definitions.
185 root 1.387 %
186 root 1.366 But rememer they aren't doing anything wrong and they aren't trying to
187     force anything on you. It is all opt-in and you always get to set the
188     policy on your computer. It's just that nothing works any more unless you
189     do opt-in and you do set your policy exactly they way they tell you to.
190 root 1.387 %
191 root 1.366 It's not coercion. It's for security. It helps the economy. It thwarts
192     terrorists. TPM gives flags to orphans if that's what it needs to do to
193     get people on board.
194     %
195 root 1.365 To have a secure computer, you must download the latest
196     patches. Therefore, you must upgrade to SP4, and therefore, you must
197     accept the EULA that requires you to agree with Microsoft's proprietary
198     DRM.
199    
200     The end is near. Security patches will soon require your body to be
201     injected with RFID. Surely, we are all doomed.
202 root 1.387 %
203 root 1.364 [http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/09/01/1419222.shtml?tid=172&tid=109]
204     switch ($decade) {
205     case "the 50's":
206     s/the Boogyman/Communist agitators/g;
207     break;
208     case "the 60's":
209     s/the Boogyman/acid-eating hippies/g;
210     break;
211     case "the 70's":
212     s/the Boogyman/disco/g;
213     break;
214     case "the 80's":
215     s/the Boogyman/mutual assured destruction (and Grenada!)/g;
216     break;
217     case "the 90's":
218     s/the Boogyman/evil hackers and George Michael/g;
219     break;
220     case "the 00's":
221     s/the Boogyman/terrorists/g;
222     break;
223     }
224 root 1.387 %
225 root 1.363 http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2005/08/curiosities-from-japans-porno-shops.html
226    
227     "How fucking creepy is that? As you can see from the flyer included
228     in the capsule (note the kiddie crayon font), the other toys in the
229     assortment include little girls spreading their legs, little girls sucking
230     suggestively on popsicles, and little girls dry-humping their teddy bears"
231    
232     "Interestingly enough, none of the cans were very long - maybe six inches
233     at the most. I was trying to avoid the whole Asian-men-have-small-penises
234     thing, but they kind of handed it to me on a silver platter."
235    
236     ""Maybe I should just try it. Just see what it feels like..." I mean,
237     why not, right? You know. Just for kicks, right? So you know what? I
238     fucked it. Yeah. I fucked a plastic beer can. I fucked the shit out of
239     that can. And you know what? It felt alright. It did the trick. That
240     is, until it was all over. Until the moment after, when I was hit by a
241     sobering freight train of humility, looking down at my dick stuck inside a
242     latex vagina housed in a plastic beer can. Moments like that you start to
243     question everything - "How the hell did it come to this? Who am I? What am
244     I doing with my life?" I probably sat there for an hour, silently with my
245     plastic lover, pondering my existence."
246 root 1.387 %
247 root 1.362 "The scholars of Islam, such as Malik, Ash-Shafi`i, Ahmad and Ishaaq said
248     that (the person guilty of this crime) should be stoned, whether he is
249     married or unmarried."
250    
251     http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547102
252     http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/02/Article01-0.shtml
253     http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/07/Article02.shtml
254     http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545556
255     http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543324
256 root 1.387 %
257 root 1.362 http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503546996
258    
259     [I like this comparison between of and watching television:]
260     Your brother is not at all different from those who have been conditioned
261     to fornicate, or commit theft or murder, or who have become addicted to
262     watching pornography or even television for that matter. All of these
263     are destructive habits that one learns through continuous exposure or
264     conditioning.
265    
266     [And this is religion at its best:]
267     Let him continuously read, reflect and meditate on the verses of the
268     Qur'an that deal with the punishment meted to the nation who practiced
269     this abomination; let him also read the verses depicting hell fire.
270 root 1.387 %
271 root 1.361 [Racism]
272     http://www.flickr.com/photos/firewall/38725768/
273 root 1.387 %
274 root 1.360 [A link, just a link]
275     http://www.oilcrisis.com/
276 root 1.387 %
277 root 1.359 As you may have noticed, the HOWTO is getting stale, you can't subscribe to
278     the mailinglist and a lot of messages sent to it aren't getting through.
279    
280     I apologise for this.
281    
282     If all goes well I'll get my driver's license this Tuesday, which will allow
283     me to visit the server, which I can't easily reach right now.
284 root 1.387 %
285 root 1.358 PSYC @> el says: von java bekommt man krebs
286     induktiv says: java is ein riesiger marketing misthaufen voll mit code von uebereifrigen fh-programmierern
287     el says: ich kenn da wen
288     el says: bei dem wars so
289     [...]
290     PSYC @> el says: und.. naja, der hat also ganz viel java programmiert
291     el says: und bekam augenkrebs
292     el says: gehirntumor auch
293     el says: ich weiss nicht, was vorher da war
294 root 1.387 %
295 root 1.357 wget http://el.l.tobij.de/ratz.jpg && xsetbg ratz.jpg
296 root 1.387 %
297 root 1.356 [in a reply to a school work assignment about proving why env vars make
298     no sense in the kernel]
299     From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
300    
301     [...]
302    
303     Mathematical proofs are accomplished within a framework of mathematical
304     models.
305    
306     In the postmodern time period and we gave up belief that the mathematical
307     models are an accurate representation of reality. We only expect that
308     they are sufficiently accurate for the purposes at hand.
309 root 1.387 %
310 root 1.354 [such nice quotes from http://theinquirer.net/?article=24638]
311     There will be EF devices, EF branded content and probably EF branded
312     contraceptives to use while watching EF branded porn.
313     --
314     Any DRM on a machine is simply a sign of failure.
315 root 1.355 --
316     This crushing DRM that is being foisted upon you is the surest sign that
317     you don't want this product, and you will be paying too much for it. Don't
318     like that? Bought legislators are hard at work making sure you will go to
319     jail if you try to exercise your rights on the issue.
320 root 1.387 %
321 root 1.353 An absolutely fascinating interview with Robert Pape, a University of
322     Chicago professor who has studied every suicide terrorist attack since
323     1980. "The central fact is that overwhelmingly suicide-terrorist
324     attacks are not driven by religion as much as they are by a clear
325     strategic objective: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military
326     forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland."
327     <http://www.amconmag.com/2005_07_18/article.html>
328     [From: CRYPTO-GRAM 2005-08-15]
329 root 1.387 %
330 root 1.352 [If you are a US citizen, you might want to fight for the right to vote,
331     which you currently do not posess]
332     http://reclaimdemocracy.org/political_reform/right_to_vote.html
333 root 1.387 %
334 root 1.388 Kind: "Daad! Die alten Griechen mußten 44 Arten der Selbstverteidigung lernen, ohne Waffen!"
335     Vater: "Dafür haben wir eine zweistufige elektrische Heckenschere."
336 root 1.351 [Nach: Time Bandits]
337 root 1.387 %
338 root 1.350 http://www.cpmission.com/main/painpolitics/mdjackson.html
339 root 1.387 %
340 root 1.349 Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off
341     a horse.." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse.."
342 root 1.387 %
343 root 1.348 Tcl is LISP on drugs. Using strings instead of S-expressions for closures
344     is Evil with one of those gigantic E's you can find at the beginning of
345     paragraphs.
346 root 1.387 %
347 root 1.347 [the average IQ seems to be declining]
348     http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000953.html
349     http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/
350 root 1.387 %
351 root 1.346 [http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/07/31/0626257.shtml?tid=153&tid=98&tid=95&tid=103&tid=219]
352     > If you know anything, most catholics register as democrats
353    
354     Most catholics aren't American.
355 root 1.387 %
356 root 1.345 [Some things possibly cannot exist...]
357    
358     [http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/depleted-uranium.html]
359     In NEWS1920, we demonstrated how America's widespread usage of Depleted
360     Uranium munitions is fulfilling the prophetic End of the Age prophecy
361     against Babylon (Iraq). Now, we examine how our D.U. is quite possibly
362     fulfilling another major prophecy: Revelation 6:3-4
363    
364     [http://cuttingedge.org/detail.cfm?ID=939]
365     How Mormon Temples Are Built To Be Demon Magnets
366 root 1.387 %
367 root 1.344 [http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/23/egypt.explosions/index.html]
368     Asked whether he thought the blasts might be related to Islam, he
369     replied, "What Islam? This terrorism has nothing to do with any religion,
370     because all religions do not allow aggression and do not allow killing
371     civilians in innocence. Those don't belong to Muslims. They are a gang of
372     criminals."
373 root 1.387 %
374 root 1.343 The Black Hole in the Galactic Center
375     [http://www.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de/staff/hfalcke/bh/sld1.html]
376 root 1.387 %
377 root 1.342 To me anything above 30 fps is good and 45-50 is amazing... 75 is more
378     than I've seen lol. Then again I come from a mac
379 root 1.387 %
380 root 1.341 [There are things the US congress can do that were far beyond my imagination]
381     http://reason.com/rauch/99_08_07.shtml
382 root 1.387 %
383 root 1.340 The MSI MS-9130 (K8T Master2-FAR) is an excellent board. The only problem
384     I had was with my video card shorting out and frying both the board and
385     card (They went up in flames).
386 root 1.387 %
387 root 1.338 05:46 <mmead> AP and UPI reported that the French government announced yesterday that
388     it has raised its terror alert level from "run" to "hide." The only two
389     higher levels in France are "surrender" and "collaborate." The action
390     was precipitated by the recent fire which destroyed one of France's
391     white flag factories, disabling their military.
392 root 1.339 05:47 <mmead> it's obviously been recirculated recently:
393     http://www.edthibodeau.com/nonplussed/2004/10/french_terror_a.html
394 root 1.387 %
395 root 1.337 [The following quote from a NASA press release shows impressively how much
396     we know. And more importantly, how to build up scientific knowledge part
397     by part. "Knowledge" always has a margin-of-error inherently attached to it.]
398    
399     "The cloud indicated the comet is covered in the powdery stuff."
400    
401     [http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/text/di_pr_20050708.txt]
402 root 1.387 %
403 root 1.336 [http://www.skippy.net/blog/2005/06/09/security-through-stupidity/]
404     Silly questions abound, all to cover people's butts. When I moved to
405     the US in 1992 (from Canada), one of the questions on my green card
406     application was "Do you, or any member of your immediate family, plan to
407     violently overthrow the government of the United States or assasinate any
408     elected official?" Not only did they have checkboxes for "yes" and "no",
409     but they had a blank space labelled, "If you checked 'yes', please provide
410     a detailed explanation in the space below." I never figured out what kind
411     of explanation would make them give you a green card anyway.
412     --
413     Hasbro should ask the same. Teddy Ruxpin chips were found on a number
414     of landmines during the first gulf war... First, we just thought these
415     people REALLY hate Teddy Ruxpin, maybe we're not so different after all...
416     but on further investigation, Ruxpin had easily-programmable EEPROMs, so
417     the Ruxpin chip was actually being repurposed as a controller for the
418     explosives. They were jackin' overseas deliveries to get the Ruxpins.
419 root 1.387 %
420 root 1.335 http://graphics.stanford.edu/~danielrh/vote/vote.html
421     The Obfuscated V contest
422 root 1.387 %
423 root 1.335 Airplane security is getting surreal: "...FAA regulation that requires
424     soldiers -- all of whom were armed with an arsenal of assault rifles,
425     shotguns and pistols -- to surrender pocket knives, nose hair scissors and
426     cigarette lighters."
427     http://tinyurl.com/7z8my
428 root 1.387 %
429 root 1.334 <http://babygimp.sourceforge.net/>
430     Does it run under Windows ?
431     - Who cares?
432 root 1.387 %
433 root 1.333 [Can hot water freeze faster than cold water?]
434 root 1.332 http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html
435 root 1.387 %
436 root 1.331 http://www.physik3.gwdg.de/~rgeisle/nld/sbsl-howto.html
437     Single Bubble Sonoluminescence HOWTO
438     [...]
439     Don't bother me with "my bottle exploded, what was wrong?"-stuff; While the bottle is heated it mustn't be closed!
440     [...]
441     Darken your room completely. Adapt your eyes, which may take 15 minutes up
442     to half an hour. Look at the flask or at least where you think your flask
443     is (remember: the room is completely darkened).
444 root 1.387 %
445 root 1.329 [de.alt.ufo]
446 root 1.388 > Ja, stimmt - ich hatte mich früher viel mit Leuten beschäftigt, die
447     > wahrscheinlich entführt wurden, oder bei denen es den Anschein hatte. Im
448     > Moment beschäftige ich mich mit der Konstruktion eines kleinen UFO-
449     > Detektors, der die UFO- Ereignisse auch zählt.-
450 root 1.330 > www.ufo-finder.de
451     > Aber Feld-Forscher bin ich deshalb noch nicht. Das geht gesundheitlich nicht
452     > mehr!
453     > richy.
454    
455     Und es gibt wirklich Deppen, die sich von dir abzocken lassen??
456 root 1.387 %
457 root 1.330 [de.alt.ufo]
458 root 1.329 > Wie kann ich online etwas belegen, das sich in der Vergangenheit
459     > zugetragen hat?
460    
461     Das solltest Du Dich selbst mal fragen. Wenn Du es nicht belegen kannst,
462     warum behauptest Du es dann?
463 root 1.388 [später]
464     > Ach, wenn es interessant wird, umfängt Dich Faulheit?
465 root 1.329
466     Bei dir ist das angemessen, du hast deinen Ruf weg.
467     Du plapperst immer nur von Belegen, verlangst letzten Endes
468     naturwissenschaftliche/physikalische Beweise (genaugenommen:
469     ein Alien-craft zum Vorfuehren), darunter akzeptierst du nichts,
470     aber das stellt sich erst nach ellenlangen threads heraus.
471    
472     Aber das ist bekannt, und eigentlich belanglos.
473    
474     Wer sich auf Debatten mit dir einlaesst und Argumente erwartet
475     von jemand, der die Wissenschaft zur Ersatzreligion verquast,
476     ist eigentlich selbst schuld.
477 root 1.387 %
478 root 1.388 [de.alt.ufo, über einen www.rtl.de-news-Artikel]
479 root 1.328 Wie die Skepsos so schoen sagen: der Verfasser von dem Quark war so offen,
480     dem ist das Gehirn rausgefallen.
481 root 1.387 %
482 root 1.327 [res_nsend.c]
483     /* give the hook another try */
484     if (++loops < 42) /*doug adams*/
485     break;
486 root 1.387 %
487 root 1.326 [sr_port/mdq.h]
488     /* Insert a doubly-linked list of elements from "n->q.fl" to "n->q.bl"
489     in between "o" and "o->q.fl" */
490     #define dqadd(o,n,q) ((o)->q.fl->q.bl=(n)->q.bl,(n)->q.bl->q.fl=(o)->q.fl,(o)->q.fl=(n)->q.fl,(n)->q.fl->q.bl=(o))
491 root 1.387 %
492 root 1.325 Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
493 root 1.387 %
494 root 1.324 * Andreas Waechter <mail@andreas-waechter.de> [06-25-05 00:58]:
495     > No, Thunderbird should not "reply" to the list with the
496     > current settings of the list.
497     >
498     > There is no "Reply-To" header, thus a "Reply" has to go to
499     > the address in the "From" header - which is the address of
500     > the original sender, not the list.
501     >
502     > The List address is in the "To" field. Thus only a "Reply
503     > All" will go to the list as CC (and to the original sender
504     > as TO).
505     >
506     > Don't blame my mail client for the set-up of the list.
507    
508     Your *mail* client is *not* being blamed. It is *your*
509     responsibility. No one disputes your choice of mail client, but it
510     *is* your responsibility to see that *your* posts are properly
511     addressed to the list, not the list's software or the people you are
512     being discourteous to.
513    
514     The *fault* is *all* yours. It is/was your choice.
515     --
516     Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535
517 root 1.387 %
518 root 1.323 [http://www.heise.de/ct/00/20/104/]
519 root 1.388 "Sie können mit falschen Tatsachen Leute überzeugen, das ist nun mal so."
520 root 1.387 %
521 root 1.322 An appeals court in Minnesota has ruled that the presence of encryption
522     software [PGP] on a computer may be viewed as evidence of criminal intent.
523     http://www.granick.com/archive/2005_05_01_theshout_archive.html#1117581
524     http://news.com.com/Minnesota+court+takes+dim+view+of+encryption/2100-1030_3-5718978.html
525     http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/archive/ctappub/0505/opa040381-0503.htm
526 root 1.387 %
527 root 1.322 [http://www.komotv.com/stories/37150.htm]
528     "They said 'no' and they said it's a national security issue. And I said
529     what about my constitutional rights? And they said 'not at this point ...
530     you don't have any'."
531 root 1.323
532     [I also am very fond of this quote:]
533     "My concern is that if that's the way they're treating American citizens I
534     would hate to think how they're treating other people. It's crazy."
535     [Don't they have _any_ ethics?? What about equality? Ah well, I forgot...]
536 root 1.387 %
537 root 1.321 [http://wiki.ffii.org/CampIcecream050601En]
538     Yes its true! If you go down to Place du Luxembourg from now until
539     3pm, you can collect your free icecream and support the Computer
540     Implemented Inventions Common Position!
541 root 1.387 %
542 root 1.319 [http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation/algorithm/upconversion/index.htm]
543     The change from Blitz to standard arrays had little effect on the
544     execution time so I stuck with the standard type. The standard arrays
545     should be more acceptable to developers who want to modify the code.
546     Insisting that the developer use a certain array container for no good
547     reason will not win many fans.
548    
549     [http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation.html has other nice
550     documents in the algorithm section]
551 root 1.387 %
552 root 1.318 ["Blue in the Face"]
553     Ich kriege in New York keine Angst, nein... aber in Schweden...da isses
554     irgendwie so leer und da sind alle betrunken... und alles funktioniert...
555     und, naja, wnen du an einer roten Ampel den motor nicht abstellst, reden
556     die leute mit dir.... die zeigen da im fernsehen ohrenoperationen...
557    
558     Solche dinge machen mir Angst... nicht New York.
559 root 1.387 %
560 root 1.317 And before I forget it, readers fascinated by the idea of Central
561     Europeans using A6 as a toilet paper size might also be interested to hear
562     that the U.S. have for the same application field a standard square format
563 root 1.388 of 4.5×4.5 in = 114×114 mm, which is for instance documented in New Jersey
564 root 1.317 Specification No. 7572-01 (May 1997), section 2.3.
565     [http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html]
566 root 1.387 %
567 root 1.316 [Better know what they actually do...]
568 root 1.388 [Technische Richtlinie / Telekommunikationsüberwachung]
569 root 1.316 http://www.regtp.de/imperia/md/content/tech_reg_t/ueberwachu/TR_TKUE_Ausgabe_4.1_29-11-2004.pdf
570 root 1.315 [RFC3924 Cisco Architecture for Lawful Intercept in IP Networks]
571     ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3924.txt
572 root 1.387 %
573 root 1.314 [rfc4096]
574     The FTC called a summit of leading thinkers, and the regulation was
575     amended to read "but don't use languages that go from right to left
576     or up and down instead of plain old left to right." Needless to say,
577     the reaction from the Freedonian League for the Defense of Linguistic
578     Diversity killed that proposed regulation really quickly.
579 root 1.387 %
580 root 1.313 [just a really nice md5sum]
581     99421268df476006401f11f96b655248
582 root 1.387 %
583 root 1.312 [a comment in some g729 sample implementation]
584     * For G.729(,A,B) royalty payments, see http://www.sipro.com
585     * WARNING: please make sure you are sitting down before looking
586     * at their price list.
587 root 1.387 %
588 root 1.311 [http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=139347&cid=11665921]
589     You'd think I was overgeneralizing, but I'm not. Absolutely every single
590     time I see HN in use, I quickly end up learning that the programmer who
591     wrote the code was an idiot. On at least two separate occasions, I've
592     had to correct C code with HN that did not allocate space for the null
593     terminator on any strings anywhere in the code. That's pretty much the
594     level of programming talent you can expect when you see HN in use.
595 root 1.387 %
596 root 1.309 21:22 <mmead> tiger's SMB support is fucking broken
597     21:26 <oesi> mmead: when you grow up, you will substitute "'s SMB support" by "" :)
598 root 1.387 %
599 root 1.308 03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> ich dachte immer alle beinhaltet mehr als 1
600     03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> aba naja
601     03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <oesi> nein, viele beinhaltet mehr als 1
602     03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <bani_> stimmt auch wieder
603 root 1.387 %
604 root 1.319 [ein so gut geschriebenes dokument erwartet man eigentlich nicht mal vom BSI]
605 root 1.307 http://www.bsi.bund.de/literat/studien/antispam/antispam.pdf
606 root 1.387 %
607 root 1.306 [some SPAM]
608     Freie Geschlechtabbildungen und -filme. Und Phasennetznocken
609 root 1.387 %
610 root 1.305 cowsay -f head-in oink | cowthink -n -f sodomized
611 root 1.387 %
612 root 1.304 [star wars episode guide]
613     1 =Epichode 1: The Phantom Grimace
614     2 =Epichode 2: Attack of the Groans
615     3 =Epichode 3: Revenge of the Shit
616     4 = Episode 4: A New Hope
617     5 = Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back(By far the best Star Wars film. One of the finest movies ever made.)
618     6 = Episode 6: Return of the Jedi(would have been a thousand times cooler if the ewoks had been Wookies).
619     [http://www.beggingtodiffer.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=pp;action=display;num=1113843411]
620 root 1.387 %
621 root 1.300 [God knows his enemies]
622     http://sheise.de/files/GODvsBUSH.gif
623 root 1.302 [Uh-oh, "se germans are next"]
624 root 1.303 http://sheise.de/files/cnn_iraq.jpg [a fake, but nevertheless]
625 root 1.387 %
626 root 1.299 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054743/
627 root 1.301 [Why is it that every good Hollywood movie is at least 30+ years old?]
628 root 1.387 %
629 root 1.298 [http://www.bildblog.de/]
630 root 1.388 Die "Bild"-Zeitung schreibt Blödsinn, und alle schreiben's ab. Die
631     rührende Geschichte von den "Unfallforschern", die angeblich "ermittelt"
632     hätten, was doch nur eine schlichte Umrechnung von Stundenkilometern in
633 root 1.298 Meter pro Sekunde ist, zieht Kreise.
634    
635     Nachrichtenagentur ddp, 3. Mai, 03:16 Uhr:
636    
637     Laut "Bild" ermittelten Unfallforscher, dass ein Auto bei einer
638     Geschwindigkeit von 50 Kilometern pro Stunde etwa 14 Meter pro Sekunde
639 root 1.388 ungebremst weiterfährt, während der Fahrer nach einer fallengelassenen
640 root 1.298 Zigarette sucht.
641    
642     Nachrichtenagentur AFP, 3. Mai, 04:25 Uhr:
643    
644     [usw.]
645    
646     Bei "Stern Online" ist aus den "Unfallforschern" schon eine ganze "Studie"
647 root 1.388 geworden, die plötzlich zu Ergebnissen kommt, die nur scheinbar mit den
648 root 1.298 bekannten "Ermittlungen" identisch sind:
649    
650     Nach Auffassung des SPD-Verkehrsexperten Peter Danckert kann eine
651     brennende Zigarette den Fahrer jedoch ebenso wie ein klingelndes
652     Telefon ablenken. Er verwies auf eine Studie, nach der ein 50
653     Stundenkilometer schnelles Auto mindestens 14 Meter weiterrolle, wenn
654     der Fahrer nach einer Zigarette sucht.
655 root 1.387 %
656 root 1.388 [schlimmer als de.alt.ufo, schlimmer als jede Verarschung sein könnte...]
657 root 1.297 http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2005/01/22/sonne__boese/sonne__boese.html
658     http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2004/12/28/seebeben/zerreisst__unsere__erde.html
659 root 1.387 %
660 root 1.296 [http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=147629&cid=12370229]
661     Which fanboy are you?
662    
663     1. Windows
664    
665     You wear wraparound sunglasses, even indoors. You wish your mother
666     would let you ride a motorbike. You tell your friends you're pulling
667     in $50,000 a year and $2,000 a month "playing the stock market" but
668     in reality you're only bringing in half that and your dividends from
669     MSFT havn't been good in years. Your non computing friends all turn
670     to you for help; you only charge $30 an hour. Your collegues talk
671     about you behind your back. Your workplace nickname is likely to be
672     "The Asshole". Unlike the Linux fanboys, you actually try to pick up
673     dates in bars but women laugh at you.
674    
675     2. Apple
676    
677     You think you're so cool you hurt. You have mirrors on every wall
678     in your "loft apartment", which is really a grimy little apartment
679     next to a guy who plays Guns 'n Roses at 3am. All of your furniture
680     is from Ikea. You sometimes think that changing your name to "Steve"
681     would be "pretty cool". When you go to bars you only drink Miller
682     Lite. No body ever asks you for help with their computers because
683     they know you don't know anything but OS X, even if you do tell them
684     you "run Unix" now. Your friends openly laugh at you.
685    
686     3. Linspire
687    
688     You regularly give $10 bills to homeless guys because you have
689     too much money. Computers baffle you, but you enjoy looking at
690     pictures of naked women. You don't know what Linux is, but you
691     continually bugged the IT guy at work about your computer so he
692     installed Linspire on your machine.
693    
694     4. Umbongo
695    
696     You shop at GAP. You probably used to use a Mac. When you saw the
697     multiracial image used as a desktop picture and heard that this
698     operating system came from the same country as Nelson Mandela, you
699     knew it was for you. You meet with your friends in fair-trade coffee
700     houses and talk about the eventual overthrow of evil corporations
701     such as Microsoft and Starbucks. Like the Linspire user, you have
702     very little real knowlege when it comes to computers but you would
703     never use your computer to look at pictures of women degrading
704     themselves.
705    
706     5. Gentoy
707    
708     You've been "into computers" for ohh, one or two years now and fancy
709     yourself as "a bit of a hacker". Wouldn't know C from C++, or even
710     Perl for that matter. Older Gentoy users may be building their homes
711     from matchsticks. You've explained to all your friends that your
712     matchstick house will have an "optimised floorplan". They've tried
713     to tell you that your house violates every known building code and
714     law in your area, but you've ignored them so far because you can't
715     read those complicated regulatory documents.
716    
717     6. Linux From Scratch
718    
719     Much like the Gentoy user but you'd also be into sadomasochistic
720     sex if you could get it. You're not just building a house from
721     matchsticks, you're planing to grow the trees to make the
722     matchsticks. You've cleared some land but don't know what to do next
723     because you havn't read the books you've got, so you've posted to
724     alt.arborists.newbie asking for help. It's been three days so far
725     and no one has replied. You remain hopeful.
726 root 1.387 %
727 root 1.295 [/usr/bin/cowsay]
728     if (($^O eq "MSWin32") or ($^O eq "Windows_NT")) { ## Many perls, eek!
729 root 1.387 %
730 root 1.294 [A few days after the 6.0.9 release announcement]
731    
732     In the spirit of release early, release often.... Err no, actually more
733     in the spirit of, let's not try to lose data during file resolution...
734    
735     Coda 6.0.10 is out
736 root 1.387 %
737 root 1.293 <opine@orifice2.com> wrote:
738    
739     > > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:55:28 -0800, CrabRangoon wrote
740     >
741 root 1.388 > > Meine Großmutter hat einen kleinen Hinterhof und sie benutzt selten die
742 root 1.293 > > Dusche. Bei vielen Gelegenheiten habe ich mehr als 4
743 root 1.388 > > Lebensmittelgeschäftspeicher-Versorgungsmaterialien Sellerie an einem
744     > > einzelnen Tag verbraucht. Würde es irgendein Benzin unter meiner Couch
745     > > geben, wenn ich meine Hose bügelte?
746 root 1.293 >
747 root 1.319 > What does your granny's tiny ass have to do with this group? Other than the
748 root 1.293 > smell attracting flies of course...
749     >
750     I figured a little non-native tongued nonsense would help keep this
751     request near the top of the group. thanks for playing along.
752 root 1.388 cheers and Haben Sie eine glückliche Karotte
753 root 1.387 %
754 root 1.292 00:24 <elmex> ich bin ja nur ein dummer niedersachse, der kaum was in der schule hatte
755 root 1.387 %
756 root 1.291 War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. -Ambrose Bierce
757 root 1.387 %
758 root 1.290 98% of the time I am right. Why worry about the other 3%.
759 root 1.387 %
760 root 1.289 [Bertram van Munster, Jerry Bruckheimers partner, interviewed in the BBC
761     show "Correspondent"]
762 root 1.288
763     [...] I do reality television, and I've done this for many many many
764     years, long before even anybody knew what reality was.
765    
766     [so know we know who creates reality now]
767     %
768 root 1.287 [from wordnet]
769     cock sucking, blowjob
770     => fellatio, fellation
771     => oral sex, head
772     => perversion, sexual perversion
773     => sexual activity, sexual practice, sex, sex activity
774     => bodily process, body process, bodily function, activity
775     => organic process, biological process
776     => process
777     => phenomenon
778 root 1.387 %
779 root 1.286 10:41 <oesi> [0]--(10:40:39)-(root@km)-(~/xxml)-> file tmon.out
780     10:41 <oesi> tmon.out: ASCII Java program text
781 root 1.387 %
782 root 1.285 [SSK@J3GtFnEi8b~ko6mGvvXdrQoZ3D4PAgM,hhWspr43hLbvnrlkwxtDLg/ABC_NoJail/2//]
783     [slightly edited]
784     Largest prison population in the world is in the United States of America
785     (in 2000: 2,071,686 persons, 22% of world prison population), it has more
786     than double the prison population of Russia or China. What that means is
787     that in USA 1 out of 143 residents are incarcerated.
788    
789     About 88% of USA prison population is male, but female population is
790     sharply on the rise, and might soon reach that of males, due mostly to new
791     laws on terrorism and drugs.
792    
793     Out of all the black males between 20 and 39, 12% are in custody (anybody
794     told them about emancipation proclamation?).
795 root 1.387 %
796 root 1.284 "Begehe nur nicht den Fehler, Meinung durch Sachverstand zu substituieren."
797     (PLemken, <bu6o7e$e6v0p$2@ID-31.news.uni-berlin.de>)
798 root 1.387 %
799 root 1.283 Mail::Box - 700MB of RSS to open a 30MB mail folder, one half of the
800 root 1.282 advertised features doesn't work, while the other half is just buggy.
801 root 1.387 %
802 root 1.281 A ship is safe in harbor, but that is not what ships are built for.
803     I learned that some cops lie. This was a brutal and profoundly disturbing
804     realization: Those in control are not necessarily trustworthy.
805     - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
806 root 1.387 %
807 root 1.279 "parrot - from the people who brought you ithreads"
808     - oesi
809 root 1.387 %
810 root 1.278 [US, Metric]
811     http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/usmetric.html
812 root 1.387 %
813 root 1.275 [http://use.perl.org/~scrottie/journal]
814 root 1.277 [I agree with that very much, most of his blog is really interesting]
815 root 1.275 Sunday February 20, 2005 07:18 AM
816     Minions Wanted [ 0 Comments | #23269 ]
817    
818     It's been about 10 years since I've had minions. They've all grown up,
819     started painfully profitable companies, and now hob-knob whose-who of
820     important and influential figures of their field. I'm growing old and
821     increasinly mal-adapted to normal life. It's no longer becoming for me
822     to leave my lair nor speak on the phone. I've reflected on making this
823     post, and I've reflected at great length. Minions aren't what they used
824     to be. Minions now days are soft and weak willed. In the old days, it was
825     that minions would realize they can wield power if they're willing to
826     spend a time subserviant to someone capable of teaching. Now days, kids
827     have this notion that money only comes from the parents, power comes from
828     your social (gag) circles, and glory comes from the things you own. They
829     seek answers to Perl questions only for immediate gradification, not to
830     truly master an insidious tactic and become a potent force. Kids now
831     days, not nearly robust enough to be considered minion material. They,for
832     their entire life, questioninglessly slide into being slaves of much
833     more powerful overlords. They accept as payment for their servatude a
834     few measily tens of thousands of dollars, and then only paid in payments
835     yearly, calling that close enough to world domination, and inexchange
836     for that paultry fee, deliver one after another innocent to the hands of
837     Bill Gates, telling the clients they betray that Microsoft Windows is a
838     servicable operating system and a supportable platform. While it is truly
839     becoming to serve on the side of Microsoft, it is also well known the
840     ranks are thin at the top but wide at the bottom, and few ever move past
841     petty explotation of businesses and moronic home users.
842    
843     This is not the stock I seek. These so short-sightedly driven by greed,
844     rather than lusting for true power, amount to little more than orcs - a
845     fodder of little use except as "consumers" in this modern age. It is far
846     more becoming to hope to some day aspire to be an overlord of some small
847     repute yourself and initially forego payment.
848    
849     Minions in my service will be expected to endure maindane business-related
850     tasks, such as answering the phone, but will always be allowed the
851     basic dignity of being able to tell clients to "fuck off" when
852     appropriate. Retaining dignity does not relieve the necessities of
853     subordination, however. My minions may seek clarification but will never
854     question me. For the term of their indenture, they will accept my teaching
855     as truth itself. They will not seek short-cuts where I say there are none,
856     and if I later reveal short-cuts, they will know it was because they were
857     not yet ready before. While my young troglodytes will doubtless enterain
858     perversion and drug abuse in their free time, they will go for the want of
859     the very necessities of life should urgant cause arise.
860    
861     In exchange, they will be tutored on the basic elements of evil and Perl
862     programming and will share in the spoils of an insideous plot I've hatched
863     some time ago to dupe large numbers of people out of money by playing on
864     their greed and fear. Of course, in the interest of avoiding indictment
865     myself, the details of the plot can never be revealed, but a clever
866     student will quickly ascertain the nature of the ploy. After thier period
867     of endenture, minions will have developed an eye for exploitation and
868     trickery, but most importantly will have developed a deeper understanding
869     of how things work - both in Perl and in the real world. They will see
870     everything about them as quite potentially theirs - no program must go
871     unwritten, and persuent to Free Trade Agreements, they will be as a
872     sovereign nation.
873    
874     While the offer is valid, this is a draft for a post on
875     jobs.perl.org. Feedback is welcome - unless you're stupid, then stay the
876     hell off my blog. Time and time again I forget both the power of TV to
877     sap intelligence and the very prevelence of the thing. So let this be a
878     test: if you watch more than half an hour a day of any programming besides
879     CSPAN, don't post here.
880    
881     -scott
882 root 1.387 %
883 root 1.274 But Mike Loughlin, who studied the boiling of lobsters when he was a
884     University of Maine graduate student, said lobsters simply lack the brain
885     capacity to feel pain.
886    
887     "It's a semantic thing: No brain, no pain," said Loughlin, who now works
888     as a biologist at the Maine Atlantic Salmon Commission.
889 root 1.387 %
890 root 1.273 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp contextual F1 help & Crimson Editor in Windows
891     From: Sven Neumann
892    
893     Hi,
894    
895 root 1.388 Rubén de Diego Martínez writes:
896 root 1.273 > I also think that it's a bug. How may I report-it?
897    
898     Go to http://support.microsoft.com/support/feedback/ and tell them
899     that
900    
901     ShellExecute (HWND_DESKTOP, "open", uri, NULL, NULL, SW_SHOWNORMAL);
902    
903     does not do what you would expect it to do.
904 root 1.387 %
905 root 1.271 http://www.syslog.com/~jwilson/pics-i-like/kurios119.jpg
906 root 1.272 the original comment says:
907     This is probably part of an elaborate IQ test.
908     Waiting at the gate means you fail.
909 root 1.387 %
910 root 1.271 {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} ich mir eine kolaflasche reingeschioebn
911     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und dann ist meine klitoris erissen
912     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und ich musste ins krankenhaus
913     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} oh sorry, falsches fenster
914     {Flat eric:Net-Knuddels} aja
915     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} hi :)
916 root 1.387 %
917 root 1.275 [Java, like Delphi, requires manual destruction. Obvious, but still
918 root 1.270 interesting read]
919     http://www.octopull.demon.co.uk/java/ImmortalityAtaPrice.html
920 root 1.387 %
921 root 1.269 [Obscure Algorithms, just for my reference]
922     http://aggregate.org/MAGIC/
923     http://www.hackersdelight.org/HDcode.htm
924 root 1.387 %
925 root 1.268 In Los Angeles, the "HOLLYWOOD" sign is protected by a fence and a locked
926     gate. Because several different agencies need access to the sign for
927     various purposes, the chain locking the gate is formed by several locks
928     linked together. Each of the agencies has the key to its own lock, and not
929     the key to any of the others. Of course, anyone who can open one of the
930     locks can open the gate.
931    
932     This is a nice example of a multiple-user access-control system. It's
933     simple, and it works. You can also make it as complicated as you want,
934     with different locks in parallel and in series.
935 root 1.387 %
936 root 1.267 http://www.crypto.com/papers/safelocks.pdf
937     Safecracking for the computer scientist
938 root 1.387 %
939 root 1.265 Fact: Something that you observe to be true.
940    
941     Fact #1: when you drop a hammer, it falls to the ground
942    
943     Fact #2: a genetic sequence can change sufficiently to form a new
944     species. Speciation has been observed more than once in the laboratory
945     and in the wild, so this is a fact. Since we call this process
946     'evolution', that means evolution is a fact. Keep reading for more
947     explanation of this.
948    
949     Theory: An explanation of an observation
950    
951     Theory #1: The theory of gravity is understood as a curvature in space,
952     which explains why the hammer falls.
953    
954     Theory #2: The Theory of Evolution through Natural Selection explains
955     how a population's genome can change over time.
956    
957 root 1.266 Law: Not really related to any of the other definitions. It's just a
958     mathematical relationship between two values.
959 root 1.265
960     Law #1: If you double the distance from a source of light, the
961     brightness falls off proportionally to the square of the distance.
962    
963     Law #2: (expressed as a formula) F=ma. Force equals mass times
964     acceleration.
965    
966     Please note that Evolution is a fact, and the theory is called the Theory
967     of Evolution through Natural Selection. There are other theories of
968     evolution, which have been disproved. A famous one is the theory of
969     evolution through acquired characteristics, also known as Lamarkian
970     evolution. It posited that species evolve by acquiring and retaining
971     useful characteristics through use. Therefore, a giraffe would have
972     longer necks if the previous generations stretched their necks to reach
973     high leaves. This was the main theory that Darwin and others showed to be
974     false.
975    
976     [by Profane MuthaFucka (574406)]
977 root 1.387 %
978 root 1.388 [Aus: Psychologie heute, 10/2003, über einen Artikel von Rentfrow/Gosling,
979 root 1.264 Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 6/2003]
980    
981     Fans von reflexiven und komplexen Musikstilen wie Klassik, Blues, Jazz und
982     Folk sind offen, tolerant und machen gerne neue Erfahrungen. Sie halten
983 root 1.388 sich für intelligent - und sind es auch. Außerdem können sie gut mit
984     Worten umgehen, schätzen das schöne. haben eine starke Vorstellungskraft
985     und sind politisch liberal eingestellt. Sie sind häufig etwas unsportlich
986 root 1.264 und wollen andere nicht dominieren.
987    
988 root 1.388 Anhänger von intensiven und rebellischen Musikrichtungen wie Heavy Metal,
989     Rock und alternativer Musik sind offen für Experimente. Sie halten sich
990     außerdem für intelligent, eloquent und sportlich. Obwohl die Musik, die
991     sie bevorzugen, vorwiegend negatives ausdrückt, scheint dies nicht auf
992     sie abzufärben: Sie sind weder neurotischer noch unverträglicher als die
993     Fans anderer Musikrichtungen. Darüber hinaus sind sie wissensdurstig,
994     risikobereit und körperlich aktiv.
995 root 1.264
996     Beschwingt und konventionell. So bezeichnen Rentfrow und Gosling
997 root 1.388 Popsongs und Schmusehits, Countrymusik, Filmmusik und religiöse Musik
998     (Spirituals, Gospels, Kirchenlieder). Wer diese Musik gerne hört, ist ein
999     umgänglicher Zeitgenosse: Er geht gern aus sich heraus, ist verträglich,
1000     fröhlich, zuverlässig, hilfsbereit und gewissenhaft. Seine Einstellungen
1001 root 1.264 sind eher konservativ, Beredesamkeit und Offenheit sind nicht seine
1002 root 1.388 Stärken. Dafür hält er sich aber für attraktiv und vor allem für
1003 root 1.264 sportlich.
1004    
1005 root 1.388 Wer sich für energetische und rhythmische Musik begeistern kann (Rap,
1006     Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, Electronica) trägt sein Herz auf der Zunge. Er
1007     ist umgänglich, quirlig, liberal eingestellt, extravertiert und ein
1008     wenig eitel: Er hält sich für attraktiv und sportlich. Konservatives
1009     Gedankengut und Dominanz über andere liegen ihm hingegen fern.
1010 root 1.264
1011 root 1.388 Die besten verbalen Fähigkeiten haben die Angehörigen der ersten beiden
1012 root 1.264 Gruppen. Am wenigsten beredt ist die dritte Gruppe. An analytischem
1013 root 1.388 Verstand mangelt es vor allen den Musikhörern der vierten Gruppe.
1014     während die erste Gruppe, gefolgt von der zweiten, am meisten davon
1015 root 1.264 vorzuweisen hat.
1016    
1017     "Die intelligenteste Gruppe bevorzugt die komplexeste Musik", sagen die
1018     Forscher.
1019 root 1.387 %
1020 root 1.263 [Very well-written article on the legal foundazion of licensing, and
1021     the extreme difference in what a free software license does vs. a
1022     EULA-style license]
1023 root 1.262 http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/cores/2005/01/001453
1024 root 1.387 %
1025 root 1.261 The Pirate Bay is a BitTorrent tracking site in Sweden with 150,000 users
1026     a day. In the fall, it posted a torrent for Shrek 2. Dreamworks sent a
1027     cease-and-desist letter demanding the site remove it. One of the site's
1028     pseudonymous owners, Anakata, replied: "As you may or may not be aware,
1029     Sweden is not a state in the United States of America. Sweden is a country
1030     in northern Europe [and] US law does not apply here. ... It is the opinion
1031     of us and our lawyers that you are fucking morons." Shrek 2 stayed up.
1032 root 1.387 %
1033 root 1.260 Java is, in many ways, C++--. (Michael Feldman)
1034 root 1.387 %
1035 root 1.259 [Happy New Year]
1036     23:42 -!- zaphod [jkneer@fatboy.laendle] has quit [Quit: Hochhaus]
1037     Day changed to 01 Jan 2005
1038     00:24 <schmorp> re
1039 root 1.387 %
1040 root 1.258 [http://www.calsky.com/lexikon/de/txt/f/fe/fehlschluss.php]
1041 root 1.388 Im besten Fall kann die Verknüpfung zweier Tatsachen Verdachtsmomente
1042     liefern, die mit wissenschaftlichen Methoden abgeklärt werden
1043 root 1.258 sollen. Was eine wissenschaftliche Methode ist, ist Gegenstand anderer
1044     wissenschaftlicher Untersuchungen.
1045 root 1.387 %
1046 root 1.257 [funny page(s), although I think it's sad that people trying to "debunk"
1047     bad science theories are prone to the same logical fallacies as the
1048     proponents of such theories.]
1049     http://www.xs4all.nl/~mke/Planet-X.htm
1050     "On the Internet, there's a picture circulating that's supposedly `secret
1051     evidence' from Russia, proving Planet X is an inhabited world. The makers
1052     took the original photo (top left), enlarged it, and upgraded it with
1053     `solarize' and `find edges'. And look... Suddenly, you see all kinds of
1054     spaceships orbiting the planet! (top right) I followed exactly the same
1055     procedure, using a photo of one Robert Bridson, math student at Stanford
1056     University (below, left). After enlarging and solarizing the photograph,
1057     it became clear that mr. Bridsons left ear actually is inhabited by
1058     intelligent beings, since there clearly is a spaceship taking off from it
1059     (below, right)."
1060 root 1.387 %
1061 root 1.256 [wonderful info...]
1062     http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/
1063     [useful info...]
1064     http://www.snopes.com/
1065 root 1.387 %
1066 root 1.253 Computer analyst to programmer:
1067     "You start coding. I'll go find out what they want."
1068 root 1.387 %
1069 root 1.252 [Fun!]
1070     http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
1071 root 1.387 %
1072 root 1.388 [Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 11/2004, über Informationstransport im All]
1073 root 1.251 "Wenn unsere Vettern im Kosmos wirklich intelligent sind, werden ihre
1074     Computer sicher nicht mit Microsoft-Betriebssystemen ausgestattet sein."
1075 root 1.387 %
1076 root 1.250 [in our continued series, "solaris source code", today, /bin/true]
1077     ddev5:~$ cat /bin/true
1078     #!/usr/bin/sh
1079     # Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
1080     # All Rights Reserved
1081    
1082     # THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
1083     # The copyright notice above does not evidence any
1084     # actual or intended publication of such source code.
1085    
1086     #ident "@(#)true.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.4 */
1087     ddev5:~$
1088 root 1.387 %
1089 root 1.249 22:07 <elmex> schmorp: naja, es beweist das das konzept von java nicht funktioniert
1090     22:07 <schmorp> elmex: welches konzept?
1091     22:07 <elmex> das "hack dir die beine ab, und lauf nen marathon"-konzept ;)
1092 root 1.387 %
1093 root 1.248 [Gtk2/Makefile.PL]
1094     # win32 does not allow unresolved symbols in libraries, but
1095     # Gtk2 uses on symbols in the dll created for Glib.
1096     # so, we have to break all this nice abstraction and encapsulation
1097     # and find the actual Glib.dll and Glib.lib installed by perl when
1098     # the Glib module was built, and add it to the list of lib files.
1099     #
1100     # say it with me: "i hate win32."
1101 root 1.387 %
1102 root 1.388 Immerhin meint die Filmförderungsanstalt, im Jahr 2002 seien 59
1103 root 1.247 Millionen CD-Rohlinge von 5,9 Millionen Nutzern mit Filmen bespielt
1104     worden, im Durchschnitt also zwo:lf Rohlinge pro Anwender.
1105     -- <http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/see-08.04.03-000/>
1106 root 1.387 %
1107 root 1.246 http://otierney.net/images/perl6.gif
1108 root 1.387 %
1109 root 1.245 [http://www.kinderschaender.de/begriff.htm]
1110 root 1.388 Das einzige, was die Seite wirklich gezeigt hat, ist, daß es kaum Menschen
1111     gibt, die weiter denken als ein Schwein scheißt.
1112 root 1.387 %
1113 root 1.244 http://www.paulgraham.com/fix.html
1114     [I'd say ALL the essays on http://www.paulgraham.com/articles.html
1115     are readable, and in most cases I wholeheartedly agree with them.]
1116 root 1.387 %
1117 root 1.243 http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/security_report_windows_vs_linux/
1118 root 1.387 %
1119 root 1.243 [From: CRYPTO-GRAM]
1120     Bill Gates points out that all those IE security holes have not been
1121     Microsoft's fault. (The first step towards recovery is recognizing
1122     that you have a problem.)
1123     <http://slashdot.org/articles/04/10/15/015239.shtml?tid=109&tid=1>
1124 root 1.387 %
1125 root 1.242 [top output on redhat9, with one real-time priority process]
1126     PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME CPU COMMAND
1127 root 1.247 25788 root 18446744073709551565 0 10076 9.8M 2816 S 0.9 1.9 0:01
1128 root 1.242 26064 root 21 0 1508 1508 1184 S 0.3 0.2 0:00 0 curl
1129    
1130     [I am continually amazed at how redhat is able to break utilities that worked
1131     and work on other distributions without flaws again and again and again...]
1132 root 1.387 %
1133 root 1.241 That depends. There is C++ and there is C++. There are many different
1134     sorts of C++, I'll talk about 2 of them:
1135    
1136     Category 1 code is 'C with classes and on-the-fly variable
1137     declarations'. It uses macros, bad encapsulation, no const-correctness,
1138     etc. Category 1 code tends to either use object oriented programing
1139     exclusively, or use it combined with procedural programming. Other
1140     programming paradigms are extremely rare. It often uses non-portable hacks
1141     because Standard-knowledge is scarce among category 1 coders. Category 1
1142     code is seen mostly in Flipcode and Gamedev.net articles and forums. Also
1143     it is seen in almost every API ever developed by Microsoft. A slightly
1144     less bad version of category 1 code is seen in libraries that call
1145     themselves "high-quality C++ libraries" but that don't even use a single
1146     namespace and rely heavily on macros and other unsafe preprocessing
1147     techniques where this is totally unnecessary. Most of those libraries are
1148     that way because they were started before the 1998 C++ Standard's stuff
1149     got implemented in main-stream compilers.
1150    
1151     Category 2 code is what I'd like to see as the meaning of the term
1152     "C++ code". It is Standard-compliant, uses multiple programming
1153     paradigms and is pushing the language to the max (and beyond ;) to
1154     create easy to use, efficient, highly-reusable and easy to extend
1155     programs/libraries/modules/etc. Unfortunately, category 2 code is
1156     hard to write when you have to work with incompetent compilers like
1157     MSVC6/7. Category 2 code is mostly seen in:
1158 root 1.387 %
1159 root 1.240 [On "Main Loop with Fixed Time Steps", a Windows programmer commented:]
1160 root 1.239
1161     Just to point out, With a tick being a maximum of FFFFFFFFh, you *only*
1162     have about 49 days of tick time since the system has started! Though I
1163     doubt any game or even system runs for that long.
1164 root 1.387 %
1165 root 1.238 [http://www.paulgraham.com/popular.html]
1166     "The best writing is rewriting," wrote E. B. White. Every good writer
1167     knows this, and it's true for software too.
1168 root 1.387 %
1169 root 1.237 > think it needs the Ultimate Refactor..."rm -rf programs/Xserver/GL"
1170    
1171     ... and I was told "rm -rf" means "read mail, really fast!"
1172     ;)
1173 root 1.387 %
1174 root 1.235 [this is not a blogggggg]
1175     One fine day, I removed the "video=matrox:off" from my kernel commandline,
1176     having removed the matrox card from my machine months ago. Promptly, the
1177     proprietary nvidia driver greeted me with:
1178    
1179     NVIDIA: Failed to map framebuffer memors
1180    
1181 root 1.236 Adding the video option back made it work again. No, I do not have any
1182     framebuffer devices compiled into the kernel, either...
1183 root 1.387 %
1184 root 1.234 [taken out of a public mail by a journalist... I have never seen anybody
1185     using so many abbreviations...]
1186    
1187     Hi Volker -
1188    
1189     alles klar ..!? Bin mit dem Buch i. Stretch .. Lektorat / Korrektorat
1190 root 1.388 Architekturbuch ... wie üblich, kennst das ja wahrsch. auch ... alles zu
1191     spät ...
1192 root 1.234
1193     Dann gehts direktemang in die Ferien (2 Wochen Gomera ab komm. SA ...)
1194    
1195     Ja, und dann find ich doch Volker ganz Massiv im Briefkasten a. SA ..
1196    
1197 root 1.388 schönes Foto von dir ... 1 Seite .. 2 seiten Interview, m. Fortsetzung im
1198     nächsten Heft ..!!! (äusserst rar b. nem Interview ...)
1199 root 1.234
1200 root 1.388 herzliche Grüsse
1201 root 1.234
1202     tom
1203 root 1.247
1204 root 1.234 PS: Mein Wissenschtf.Kollege und Filmemacher ist der Meinung, dass das Thema
1205 root 1.388 'Copyrights, Commons, Freedom' etc ...spannend wäre, aber schlecht fürs TV
1206 root 1.234 ... Du kannst prakt. nichts mehr themat. Anspruchsvolles machen ... auch b.
1207 root 1.388 Arte war irgend nen Problem (fällt mir auf d. Schnelle nicht mehr ein ...
1208 root 1.234 schon ein paar Wochen her ...)
1209 root 1.387 %
1210 root 1.233 From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
1211     Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4
1212     Message-ID: <20040826183838.GE2793@holomorphy.com>
1213    
1214     On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 02:02:29AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
1215 root 1.247 > How old are you? I thought you were the guy at Linux Tag with fashion
1216     > oriented hair who gave a talk on his XFS work? Did I confuse you with
1217 root 1.233 > someone else?
1218    
1219     Index: mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS
1220     ===================================================================
1221     --- mm1-2.6.9-rc1.orig/CREDITS 2004-08-26 10:37:57.424567967 -0700
1222     +++ mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS 2004-08-26 11:35:24.977260109 -0700
1223     @@ -2677,6 +2677,14 @@
1224     S: 79098 Freiburg
1225     S: Germany
1226    
1227     +N: Hans Reiser
1228     +E: reiser@namesys.com
1229     +W: http://www.namesys.com/
1230     +D: official Linux kernel hairstyle critic
1231     +S: 6979 Exeter Dr
1232     +S: Oakland, CA 94611
1233     +S: USA
1234     +
1235     N: Joerg Reuter
1236     E: jreuter@yaina.de
1237     W: http://yaina.de/jreuter/
1238 root 1.387 %
1239 root 1.232 Partial lynx-output for mail sent by "T-Online Vertragsbrief":
1240     [poeppel_magenta.gif]
1241 root 1.387 %
1242 root 1.231 [http://www.dark-skies.org/theproblems.html#security]
1243     Better ligthing does not affect crime rates
1244 root 1.387 %
1245 root 1.230 [http://www.immunitysec.com/downloads/tc0.pdf]
1246     Label: "Difficulty of owning Windows vs. Difficulty to make this graph"
1247 root 1.387 %
1248 root 1.229 [rxvt-unicode (mine! :) vs. gnome-terminal :)]
1249     [http://bugs.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137864]
1250     [...]
1251     Upgrading to major: the first person to fix this (fix = performance is
1252     within a factor of 2 of rxvt-unicode for all four of the tests here) gets
1253     $50 from me, or an expensive dinner + all the beer they can handle if they
1254     ever visit Sydney, Australia ;)
1255     [...]
1256     Tagging this critical+urgent. How dare I, you ask? Doubling the reward -
1257     $100 if this is fixed (see above) before September 1, 2004. $0 after that
1258     (and I'll return it to a normal bug ;) If anyone else wants to contribute
1259     to whoever ends up fixing this, please join in..
1260 root 1.387 %
1261 root 1.228 [SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301268,00.html]
1262     [SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301538,00.html]
1263     Dass die Flimmerkiste ein beliebiges "Nullmedium" sei, beklagen
1264     Kulturkritiker von jeher. Doch nun zeigt selbst ein unvoreingenommener
1265     Blick aufs TV-Programm: Die Quote ist heilig, das Niveau sinkt auf breiter
1266     Front - auch bei ARD und ZDF. Verdummt die Na
1267 root 1.387 %
1268 root 1.226 [SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM,ed-XX1sNy0yR7p~QMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/brainleak%202004-03-02.html]
1269 root 1.227 [...] Tech savvy people will be inclining towards clicking the cancel
1270     button by default whenever they are presented a question which they don't
1271     fully understand, or didn't expect to see. Regular computer users will
1272     be inclined to press the Ok button instead, because they fear that by
1273     clicking cancel they might be causing something they don't understand not
1274     to work, something that they probably won't be able to fix afterwards
1275     anyway. If a geek fucks up somehow, he'll know what to do to fix it
1276     anyway, so there's no harm done clicking cancel. [...]
1277 root 1.387 %
1278 root 1.223 [http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/00/10/marienbad.html]
1279     I once had a postmodern intertextual moment at a drugstore bookrack when I
1280 root 1.224 picked up a paperback with the following title: Bram Stoker's Dracula:
1281 root 1.223 A Novelization Based on the Original Screenplay.
1282 root 1.387 %
1283 root 1.222 [bts show 215647]
1284     [yes, the whole thing]
1285 root 1.387 %
1286 root 1.221 [bts show 254316]
1287 root 1.247 > > The problem is not in luit, it's not in XTerm, it's not even in termcap;
1288     > > it's in the morass of complexity that some mindless jerk who'll be first
1289     > > against the wall when the revolution comes standardised as ISO 2022.
1290 root 1.221 >
1291     > ( google suggests 2022 has many fans ;-)
1292    
1293     We'll use a larger wall.
1294 root 1.387 %
1295 root 1.220 [Maedhros35 about "Clockwork Orange" on IMDB]
1296     This is a movie I would not recommend even to my worst enemy. It is a
1297     horrible picture, containing too much random violence and rape committed
1298     by four no-goods in white pyjamas, than is good for anyone too watch.
1299    
1300     The only fun moment is when the main character, being brainwashed into a
1301     non-violent state of mind, is being bashed by his former friends.
1302    
1303     There may be some "hidden message" in this movie about society and blah,
1304     but the message (not too well brought) is completely drowned.
1305    
1306     It is not even a waste of your time, it is worse than that. Avoid at all
1307     cost.
1308     ["too much violence" but "the only fun moment".... What the...!?]
1309 root 1.387 %
1310 root 1.219 When searching on google for:
1311    
1312 root 1.225 kakerlake schabe made
1313 root 1.219
1314     Google asked me wether I instead wanted to look for:
1315    
1316 root 1.225 kakerlake _schwabe_ made
1317 root 1.387 %
1318 root 1.218 What we learned this week;
1319     "Hell is a bad place to be and renders with 8-12fps"
1320 root 1.387 %
1321 root 1.216 "Britain is one of only three countries in the world (the others are
1322     Germany and Egypt) enduring stricter censorship today than 25years ago"
1323 root 1.387 %
1324 root 1.215 [translated]
1325     23:07 <schmorp> libtool is soo broken
1326     23:07 <schmorp> ./libtool gcc-3.4 ...
1327     23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
1328     23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
1329     23:07 <schmorp> ...
1330     23:07 <schmorp> libtool --tag=ulubulu
1331     23:07 <schmorp> libtool: ignoring unknown tag ulubulu
1332     23:07 <schmorp> and it works
1333 root 1.387 %
1334 root 1.214 History does not repeat itself. Historians repeat each other.
1335     -- Lord Balfour
1336 root 1.387 %
1337 root 1.213 The whole of Mozilla is just one big focus bug.
1338 root 1.387 %
1339 root 1.212 <Beerman> When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then
1340     I realised that The Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked
1341     him to forgive me.
1342 root 1.387 %
1343 root 1.211 [slashdot]
1344     > there are currently no active, reliable ways to obtain the program listings for New Zealand television
1345    
1346     I have been to NZ. You have no television.
1347 root 1.387 %
1348 root 1.210 [IMDB user about "What?" by Roman Polanski]
1349     "What?" fills the gap for those who get a kick out of 70's porn plots, but
1350     get bored during the sex scenes.
1351 root 1.387 %
1352 root 1.209 I say to you that the VCR is to the ... American public as the Boston
1353     strangler is to the woman home alone.
1354     - Jack Valenti (CEO, MPAA)
1355 root 1.387 %
1356 root 1.208 [Bruce Schneier]
1357     SP2 is an important security upgrade to Windows XP, and I hope it is
1358     widely installed among licensed XP users. I also hope it is quickly
1359     pirated, so unlicensed XP users can also install it. In order for me
1360     to remain secure on the Internet, I need everyone to become more
1361     secure. And the more people who install SP2, the more we all benefit.
1362 root 1.387 %
1363 root 1.207 [From Paul Eggert]
1364     [...] Worse, HP-UX asctime rejects any tm_year that is negative; this
1365     violates the C standard, but HP won't take my bug reports since I'm not a
1366     HP-UX customer. [...]
1367 root 1.387 %
1368 root 1.206 >>>Just curious, If I recall correctly, didn't Forth used to be FORTH?
1369     >>
1370     >>Since FORTH is not an acronym (the way BASIC, LISP, FORTRAN and C are)
1371     >>but a (deliberate) misspelling of "fourth", when it became possible to
1372     >>use LC the fashion became to do so. My book, "Scientific FORTH" (1992)
1373     >>spelled it in UC.
1374 root 1.247 >
1375     >
1376 root 1.206 > BASIC, LISP and FORTRAN are acronyms. C isn't.
1377    
1378     C isn't all caps, just the initial letter.
1379 root 1.387 %
1380 root 1.205 [comp.lang.c]
1381     > According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language
1382    
1383     I'm sorry, but that's like quoting Bjarne Stroustrup on correct ISO C
1384     usage.
1385    
1386     Richard
1387 root 1.387 %
1388 root 1.204 I remember Elwyn Berlekamp describing what goes on at computer go
1389     tournaments (where computer programs play go against each other) - unlike
1390     at computer chess tournaments where the programs far surpass their
1391     creators, at go tournaments the creators sit there and look at a game in
1392     play and say things to each other like, "Gosh, I wonder if my program will
1393     repair that weakness before your program notices it."
1394 root 1.387 %
1395 root 1.203 21:40 <oesi> sansho: du bist kindisch. :)
1396     21:40 <sansho> oesi: das hab ich mir von dir abgeguckt
1397 root 1.387 %
1398 root 1.202 MarkD [-]: The trouble with political jokes is that some of them get elected
1399 root 1.387 %
1400 root 1.201 A coherent understanding of Philosophy will convince you that you are
1401     competent to understand the universe and achieve the human values that
1402     make life meaningful. You will know when you know something and when you
1403     don't, when you understand something and when you don't, and why. You
1404     will also realize why morality and ethics are too important to be left to
1405     anyone but yourself. You will learn that there are no shortcuts to truth,
1406     no authorities you can follow blindly, and perhaps most important, that
1407     nothing at all exists except reality. In sum, you will know what human
1408     existence means and implies.
1409    
1410     [Introduction to Philosophy, Joel Katz]
1411 root 1.387 %
1412 root 1.201 > > Casts from void* are necessary in C++, not in C.
1413     >
1414     > I am aware... I'm fishing for more info! Perhaps if I reposted again and
1415     > said you were wrong I'll get more...
1416     >
1417     > You're WRONG!
1418    
1419 root 1.388 void* is implicitly converted to the destination pointer type (C99 §6.3.2.3
1420     and §7.20.3.1).
1421 root 1.387 %
1422 root 1.200 From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu>
1423     In the DOS days, I had a scattering of students who really
1424     knew about computers. In the XP days, I have none.
1425 root 1.387 %
1426 root 1.199 [another variation, more useful]
1427     A. It should be obvious.
1428     Q. How is it hard?
1429     A. Because it makes it hard to follow conversations.
1430     Q. Why is top-posting bad?
1431 root 1.387 %
1432 root 1.198 [windows is a good place to learn programming]
1433     Subject: Linux c prog doesn't work on Sun Solaris Machine....?
1434    
1435     Compiled using g++ on linux and then I tried to execute it on Solaris.
1436     The error message was something like "can't execute a.out"
1437    
1438     - works ok on linux
1439     - ran chmod so Sun user has execute/read/etc permissions. chmod u=rwx
1440    
1441     Any clues why?
1442     I am new to the non windows world.
1443    
1444     Thanks
1445 root 1.387 %
1446 root 1.197 [comp.lang.c]
1447     > I want to write some data on the EEPROM of a PIC 16F877 microcontroller via
1448     > serial port rs232. What library can I use with a gcc compiler to perform
1449     > this ?
1450    
1451     This is not a C question. Please try asking again in comp.arch.embedded where
1452     we will advise you to use an 8051, AVR, or MSP430 instead of the PIC.
1453 root 1.387 %
1454 root 1.196 [comp.std.c]
1455     In message <c4k0mj$fmp$1@sunnews.cern.ch>
1456     Dan.Pop@cern.ch (Dan Pop) wrote:
1457    
1458     > In <nfa0k1-03l.ln1@jones.homeip.net> lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com writes:
1459 root 1.247 >
1460     > >The text of the standard only yields one reasonable interpretation.
1461     >
1462 root 1.196 > Yup, mine!
1463 root 1.387 %
1464 root 1.195 [links-2.1pre13 ChangeLog]
1465     Thu Oct 9 16:44:10 GMT 2003 mikulas:
1466    
1467     Do not print 1000l on FreeBSD console on exit
1468 root 1.387 %
1469 root 1.194 [an old question, revisited]
1470     http://www.style.org/unladenswallow/
1471 root 1.387 %
1472 root 1.194 [comp.lang.c]
1473 root 1.247 > can any one translate the following codes into c++ codes,
1474 root 1.194
1475     This is comp.lang.c. We do C, not C++. We do not translate C into
1476     obfuscated languages. The good news is that your code already _is_ C++.
1477 root 1.387 %
1478 root 1.194 [comp.lang.c]
1479     I didn't say he was incorrect. I said he was an idiot.
1480 root 1.387 %
1481 root 1.193 according to babelfish "glibber" in german means "more glibber" in english :-)
1482 root 1.387 %
1483 root 1.192 [Debian Bug #163625 features one of my favourite bug report subjects:]
1484     Installing additional mozilla Debian packages
1485 root 1.247 deletes additionally installed mozilla packages
1486 root 1.387 %
1487 root 1.388 [Aus einer Werbung für dne "Windows-Berater". Es ist erschreckend, zeigt
1488     aber, das manche Maßnahmen von Microsoft völlig irreführenderweise als
1489     Sicherheitsmaßnahme verstanden und dargestellt werden. Ich frage mich, wie
1490 root 1.190 DRM in Zukunft aufgenommen und beworben werden wird...]
1491    
1492 root 1.388 "Kaum angekündigt, schon ist der Registrierungsschutz geknackt"
1493 root 1.190
1494 root 1.388 Das neue Windows XP lässt sich nur mit einem besonderen Registrierungscode
1495 root 1.190 dauerhaft betreiben. Besorgt sich der Anwender diese Lizenz nicht,
1496     wird das System gesperrt. Damit sollen Raubkopien und unerlaubte
1497     Mehrfachnutzung verhindert werden. Kaum vorgestellt, knacken Hacker
1498 root 1.388 diese Verschlüsselung schon. Checklisten zeigen Ihnen, wie dieser Klau
1499     abläuft. Damit Sie sich und Ihr System vor ungebetenen Zugriffen und Viren
1500     schützen können.
1501 root 1.387 %
1502 root 1.189 [Reiner Gamma]
1503     http://www.geocities.com/kc5lei/SWIRL2001.htm
1504 root 1.387 %
1505 root 1.188 >> Asshole keep you shit out of alt.binaries.games.adult until you read
1506     [...]
1507 root 1.187 >Dude, thisi is not "alt.binaries.games.adult".
1508 root 1.188 [...]
1509 root 1.187 Yes, it is. Or, it was, till your post cut the crosspost. It was
1510     crossposted to several groups and the person you're replying to will
1511     never get your message.
1512 root 1.387 %
1513 root 1.186 [http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/doc/Details.html.pl]
1514     As this project will always run unknown binary code of proprietary W32
1515     filesystem drivers, the code can never be trusted.
1516 root 1.387 %
1517 root 1.185 [http://www.hello-penguin.com/gtm-perl/doc/Perl.html]
1518     (look at the BUGS section... very funny to read, btw., it's
1519     a sourceforge project called GT.M).
1520 root 1.387 %
1521 root 1.184 bigger things. We\\\\\\\'d be using C + asm and Hax
1522     01:15 <Sesse> we all the backslashes?
1523     01:15 <schmorp> no idea, i have these in some of my descriptions, too
1524     01:15 <schmorp> it seems that sourceofrge does " -> \" on every deascription change
1525     01:15 <Sesse> sounds like php
1526     01:15 <schmorp> i guess it's written in php
1527     01:15 <schmorp> *g*
1528     01:15 <Sesse> :-D
1529 root 1.387 %
1530 root 1.183 http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/
1531     [...] At the beginning I didn't expect that I would actually succeed,
1532     since I thought I would need almost half of that just for the headers. I
1533     think my first cut was 458 bytes in size. I was quite pleased with myself
1534     when I trimmed that down to less than 300 bytes, ecstatic when I finally
1535     reached the 255-byte goal, and downright triumphant when I later got it to
1536     work in 238 bytes. By the time I had a 198-byte version, I was just plain
1537     dumbfounded. It's now at 171 bytes. [...]
1538 root 1.387 %
1539 root 1.182 [http://www.mindspring.com/~kimall/Japanese/polite.html]
1540     [...] Americans didn't invent English (although the Brits will happily
1541     disown our mangled version of it! :-) ) [...]
1542 root 1.387 %
1543 root 1.181 [Eugene Spafford]
1544     During the heights of some of the recent viruses, I was discarding 30Mb of
1545     email per day -- all of it viruses. And I should point out -- viruses for
1546     Windows. There have been something like 100,000 viruses for MS operating
1547     systems, only about 50 for the Mac, and about 3 for commercial Unix
1548     systems. That difference isn't because of a difference in the prevalence
1549     of the machines -- there are basic architectural differences.
1550 root 1.387 %
1551 root 1.180 [http://MarginalHacks.com/]
1552     If you can't vi it, it sucks.
1553 root 1.387 %
1554 root 1.180 [from the somewhat outdated xterm-faq]
1555     GNOME TERMINAL
1556     [...]
1557     The documentation is fragmentary (with a comment suggesting that the
1558     author does not know where to find relevant information), and the program
1559     fares badly with vttest. [...] But it suffices for vi.
1560     [.. later]
1561     There is a variation of xvt (ancestor of rxvt) originally known as kvt
1562     bundled with KDE which may be referred to as "kterm", but I do not find it
1563     interesting, other than to comment that it was a poor choice of name.
1564 root 1.387 %
1565 root 1.179 [I *love* X programs]
1566     [xc/programs/xprop/xprop.c]
1567     /*
1568 root 1.247 * blip: a debugging routine. Prints Blip! on stderr with flushing.
1569 root 1.179 */
1570     void blip()
1571 root 1.247 {
1572 root 1.179 fflush(stdout);
1573     fprintf(stderr, "blip!\n");
1574     fflush(stderr);
1575 root 1.247 }
1576 root 1.387 %
1577 root 1.178 [pavel machek commenting on a proposed patch]
1578     + int alternative_order = 999;
1579    
1580     Why not 666? :-).
1581 root 1.387 %
1582 root 1.178 [yosh on gimp-developer]
1583     It's also better to research your suggestions a little, so that they don't
1584     sound completely out there, thereby reinforcing the viewpoint that Windows
1585     users are clueless.
1586 root 1.387 %
1587 root 1.177 [modularity makes unix systems more secure]
1588     http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/36029.html
1589 root 1.387 %
1590 root 1.176 [beware german translations]
1591     dpkg: Warnung - ignoriere Kollision, kann sowieso weitermachen!
1592 root 1.387 %
1593 root 1.175 [http://www.cypherspace.org/adam/hacks/lotus-nsa-key.html, look around there]
1594     NSA's Backdoor Key from Lotus-Notes
1595 root 1.387 %
1596 root 1.174 The word "ampersand" is an alteration of the phrase "et, per se and" (that
1597     is: "et by itself [means] and"), which became corrupted to "and, per se
1598     and", and finally, ampersand.
1599 root 1.387 %
1600 root 1.173 [xc/lib/X11/lcUTF8.c]
1601     [...] We distinguish three classes of clients: [1st] [...] [2nd] Clients
1602     which accept CompoundText with multiple character sets and parse it
1603     themselves. (Example: emacs, xemacs.) [3rd] [...] In a distant future,
1604     when clients of the first and second kind will have disappeared, [...]
1605 root 1.387 %
1606 root 1.171 [linux-2.6/drivers/md/Kconfig]
1607     WARNING: RAID-6 is currently highly experimental. If you
1608     use it, there is no guarantee whatsoever that it won't
1609     destroy your data, eat your disk drives, insult your mother,
1610     or re-appoint George W. Bush.
1611 root 1.387 %
1612 root 1.170 [http://www.herodios.com/herron_tc/atsign.html]
1613     Many Finnish terms for @ are connected with cats. Not content with naming
1614     the sign for what it looks like, Finnish names it for what it looks like
1615     sounds like. In addition to "kissanhnta [cat's tail], "miau," "miumau,"
1616     and "miuku" are all "miau merkki" [meow marks] in Finnish. Other terms
1617     from Finnish include "apinanhanta" [a monkey's tail], or "hiirenhanta"
1618     [mouse's tail]. Some "computer people" use the English word "at."
1619 root 1.387 %
1620 root 1.247 17:07 <oesi> schmorp: mal ein guter kommentar auf heise zum thema "Bill tourt durch
1621 root 1.388 die USA und kündigt innovative neuentwicklungen an"
1622     17:08 <oesi> Kommentar war: "was hat er angekündigt: drive-letter in unicode?"
1623 root 1.387 %
1624 root 1.168 [Ken Lunde about his copy of KS C 5657-1991:]
1625     Here's another interesting note. My official copy of this
1626     standard has all of its 2,856 hanja hand-written.
1627 root 1.387 %
1628 root 1.172 [cvs, while checking in changes to uunet's radiusd]
1629 root 1.168 confused about file platform.h -- ignoring
1630 root 1.387 %
1631 root 1.167 [http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/02/24/1011245.shtml]
1632 root 1.247 And most likely, the FBI didn't tell the hosting company exactly what it
1633     is they wanted. When the Feds come in with a search warrant, they don't
1634     ask for your help. They say, "stand aside" and commence
1635 root 1.167 %
1636 root 1.166 http://www.bash.org/?178890
1637 root 1.387 %
1638 root 1.165 [http://www.bash.org/?75016]
1639     <ig3l|Guel> If Osama B. isn't in Afghanistan, and if he isn't dead, we believe he is in another country" - US army General
1640 root 1.387 %
1641 root 1.247 00:56 <oesi> ulpfr: ich schrieb mal einen kompletten mailer in emacs, weil mir rmail
1642     nicht gefallen hat. man wird aelter und reifer und droppt dann emacs
1643 root 1.164 einfach :)
1644     00:56 <ulpfr> Weichei
1645 root 1.387 %
1646 root 1.163 [spca50x.sourceforge.net]
1647     /*
1648     * Function compares two strings.
1649 root 1.247 * Return offset in pussy where prick ends if "prick" may penetrate
1650 root 1.163 * int "pussy" like prick into pussy, -1 otherwise.
1651     */
1652     static inline int match(const char* prick, const char* pussy, int len2)
1653     {
1654     int len1 = strlen(prick); //length of male string
1655     [...]
1656 root 1.387 %
1657 root 1.163 http://www.leckse.net/profilieren/chat
1658 root 1.387 %
1659 root 1.388 rohw, schleymig und formlos Fleisch wie di Schleuch eines Tündenfischs
1660 root 1.387 %
1661 root 1.162 [rxvt-*/src/init.[cC]]
1662     /* grab colors before netscape does */
1663     Get_Colours ();
1664 root 1.387 %
1665 root 1.388 [oesi über apache-2.0]
1666 root 1.160 03:10 <oesi> ist mir egal, ich fahre alle 24h den apache runter...
1667     03:10 <oesi> ich fahre praktisch das 1.3er config-file. das gibt sicherheit :)
1668     03:11 <oesi> ich kann apache nicht stoppen.
1669     03:11 <oesi> apachectl stop
1670     03:11 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
1671     03:11 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
1672     03:12 <oesi> wie konnte ich den starten?
1673     03:12 <schmorp> *rofl*
1674 root 1.161 [...]
1675     03:29 <oesi> es ist kein scherz. wirklich:
1676     03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl sslstart
1677     03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl stop
1678     03:29 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
1679     03:29 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
1680 root 1.387 %
1681 root 1.159 [http://www.jmarshall.com/tools/cgiproxy/]
1682     [...] Here's a demo (username "free", password "speech") [...]
1683 root 1.387 %
1684 root 1.158 [rxvt/src/screen.C]
1685     #ifdef DEBUG_STRICT
1686 root 1.247 assert(screen.cur.row >= 0);
1687 root 1.158 #else /* drive with your eyes closed */
1688     MAX_IT(screen.cur.row, 0);
1689     #endif
1690 root 1.387 %
1691 root 1.157 [http://www.mine-control.com/zack/timesync/timesync.html]
1692     [...] Also, anecdotal evidence from network programmers suggests that the
1693     UDP implementation under Win32 is unstable and overly-unreliable. [...]
1694 root 1.387 %
1695 root 1.156 > > Ceterum censeo | PGP encrypted mail preferred.
1696     > > Redmond esse delendam. | PGP Key at www.MPA-Garching.MPG.de/~nog/
1697     >
1698     > Willkomme im Club .... :-)))
1699    
1700     Danke - ich bin schon lange dabei... ;-)
1701     --
1702     OpenVMS @ 25 | Martin Vorlaender | VMS & WNT programmer
1703 root 1.387 %
1704 root 1.388 Um die Jahrhundertwende erfand ein Mann namens Friedolin Tär einen
1705     IQ-Test, der die Gesamtpersönlichkeit sehr stark miteinbezog.
1706     Charakterstärke, Grosszügigkeit, flexibles Denken etc. wurden also
1707     mitbewertet. Die Skala mit der Maßeinheit "Tär" wies ein großes Spektrum
1708     auf. Ärzte, Wissenschaftler erreichen IQ's im Megatär-Bereich. Der
1709     Durchschnittsmensch weist einige Kilotär auf. Nach unten gibt es Dezitär,
1710     Centitär... und schießlich Mil(l)itär...
1711 root 1.387 %
1712 root 1.154 http://senseis.xmp.net/?GetStrongAtGote
1713     http://users.skynet.be/rexburton/ritchie.htm
1714 root 1.387 %
1715 root 1.153 Subject: [Swsusp-devel] 2.6.1: It could go faster if I didn't have egg on my face.
1716 root 1.387 %
1717 root 1.153 "It's not Hollywood. War is real, war is primarily not about defeat or
1718     victory, it is about death. I've seen thousands and thousands of dead
1719     bodies. Do you think I want to have an academic debate on this subject?"
1720     -- Robert Fisk
1721 root 1.387 %
1722 root 1.151 [the satellite death spiral: why spacecraft are unnecessarily expensive]
1723     http://www.dynacon.ca/pdf/files/newspdf_63.pdf
1724 root 1.152 [see also the small satellites homepage]
1725     http://centaur.sstl.co.uk/SSHP/
1726 root 1.387 %
1727 root 1.150 [http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/files/lec_lev.htm]
1728     "Anthropologists concur that America is an exceedingly 'low-touch,'
1729     high-violence culture"
1730     [...]
1731     "[...] Republican members of the House of Representatives called for the
1732     resignation of Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders, whose transgression was to
1733     suggest, in response to a question following a speech to sex educators,
1734     that masturbation was an appropriate subject for classroom discussion.
1735     This remark, according to one congressman, was part of a social movement
1736     that was "killing the moral fiber of America" and just one symptom of
1737     a decline also manifested in reckless driving, an indecisive military
1738     policy-dubbed "mission creep," and homosexuals in the Boy Scouts." [...]
1739    
1740     Masturbation is an absolute taboo in the US. Many adults still think that
1741     they are the only ones who do such dirty things.
1742 root 1.387 %
1743 root 1.150 From: <[...]@aol.com>
1744     Subject: Re: [...]
1745    
1746     Marc wrote on 1/7/2004, 6:57 AM:
1747    
1748     > Congrats. No kidding, you are the first person @aol that ever sent me a
1749     > sensible mail. I was planning to reject mail from aol.com right away
1750     > since (in the last 8 years at least), nothing good came from there, but you
1751     > saved it :)
1752    
1753     Yeah, I get that a lot, but you've got to know that .aol.com email
1754     addresses are also used by the people who work for AOL (cough, cough :).
1755     [...]
1756 root 1.387 %
1757 root 1.150 From: Alan Cox
1758     > The code to disable prefetch on Athlon is 300 bytes and hurts your PIV?
1759     > Really? I'll dig back through the code, but I recall it as adding or
1760     > deleting an entry in a table to enable prefetch. If it's affecting PIV the
1761     > code to use prefetch is seriously broken.
1762    
1763     Big time. Its over 300 bytes long because its embedded in each inline
1764     prefetch and it causes a branch misprediction almost every time. Amazing
1765     what you find when you actually measure stuff 8)
1766     [...]
1767 root 1.387 %
1768 root 1.150 http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
1769 root 1.387 %
1770 root 1.150 http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
1771 root 1.387 %
1772 root 1.150 http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
1773 root 1.387 %
1774 root 1.149 [FYI: java was officially announced in 1995, and certainly didn't exist
1775     even as a concept before 1991. It's interesting how many people nowadays
1776     claim to have decades of java experience]
1777     On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:11:54AM -0500, Robert Soros <robert@soros.ca> wrote:
1778     > I am extremely excited about your ideas to fix freenet and would be
1779     > willing to plug your code into fred (I have fourteen years java
1780     > programming experience.) Could you provide a link to your code? What
1781 root 1.387 %
1782 root 1.149 http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
1783 root 1.387 %
1784 root 1.149 http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
1785 root 1.387 %
1786 root 1.149 http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
1787 root 1.387 %
1788 root 1.147 [in a private discussion about some potential problem that would cause]
1789     [mail not to be delivered]
1790     > > On the other hand, I see the same in some mail from RMS.
1791 root 1.247 >
1792 root 1.147 > Well, just because rms does it does not mean... :)
1793    
1794     My point is that the FSF is unlikely to install something that
1795     bounces RMS's mail, at least, not for long.
1796 root 1.387 %
1797 root 1.147 On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Piers Cawley wrote:
1798    
1799     > David Cantrell <david@cantrell.org.uk> writes:
1800     >
1801     > > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 11:16:52AM -0500, Tommie M. Jones wrote:
1802     > >> Anyone know of any perl software that does resume parsing.
1803     > >
1804     > > I don't *think* anyone has implemented continuations in perl, so I fail
1805     > > to see how you can have resumes. Or are you trying to parse some other
1806     > > language which does support this?
1807     >
1808    
1809     Just because we share a language does not mean we understand each other.
1810    
1811     In America there are two meanings for resume. One being to continue the
1812     other the equivalent of what ya'll call a CV (I think though I've never
1813     heard the term before) In the second definition resume is pronounced with
1814     a short u. I think there is a "`" in the proper spelling of the word but
1815     since Americans are not use to using punctuation in their words (other
1816     than to show ownership and contractions) it is usually loss.
1817 root 1.387 %
1818 root 1.147 echo $package has manual pages available in source form.
1819     echo "However, you don't have nroff, so they're probably useless to you."
1820     --Larry Wall in Configure from the perl distribution
1821 root 1.387 %
1822 root 1.146 AFTER 30 years of "daylight saving" - moving the clocks forward in the
1823     spring and then back again in the autumn - there is still an Abolish
1824     Daylight Saving Committee in New South Wales, Australia.
1825    
1826     Added to the usual claims of such campaigns - for example, that the
1827     extra hour of daylight in the evening in summer fades the curtains - is
1828     a new one from ADSC spokeswoman Judith Hall, of Gunnedah, who told the
1829     Sydney Morning Herald: "No man has the right to choose the time of the
1830     rising and setting of the sun, only God."
1831    
1832     Reader John McCallum, who told us about this, is surprised Hall doesn't
1833     explain why God doesn't simply exercise this choice. When people insist
1834     on moving their clocks forward, He should just move the sunrise forward
1835     and thwart them that way.
1836 root 1.387 %
1837 root 1.146 [Defect Report #205 to ISO-C]
1838     There was a unanimous vote that the feature is ugly, and a good consensus
1839     that its incorporation into the standard at the 11th hour was an
1840     unfortunate decision.
1841 root 1.387 %
1842 root 1.247 02:23 <oesi> Breaking News: SCO stellt per Wahrsager Codeklau in HURD in einem Jahr
1843 root 1.146 fest ;)
1844 root 1.387 %
1845 root 1.146 [http://www.unicode.org/standard/WhatIsUnicode.html]
1846    
1847     Last updated: - Invalid Date
1848 root 1.387 %
1849 root 1.146 http://www.bash.org/?99060
1850 root 1.387 %
1851 root 1.145 [IZ-Buzzword-Bullshit-Bingo]
1852     http://www.l13.de/it/ibbb.html
1853 root 1.387 %
1854 root 1.144 Q: What is the state of the object after its lifetime has ended?
1855    
1856     A: As a well-known software guru[3] once put it, speaking about a
1857     similar code fragment and anthropomorphically referring to the
1858     local object as a "he":
1859    
1860     "He's not pining! He's passed on! This parrot is no more! He
1861     has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker!
1862     He's a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn't
1863     nailed him to the perch he'd be pushing up the daisies! His
1864     metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's
1865     kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down
1866     the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible! THIS IS AN
1867     EX-PARROT!"
1868    
1869     - Dr. M. Python, BMath, MASc, PhD (CompSci)
1870 root 1.387 %
1871 root 1.144 [ach du schande]
1872     "pflichtpfandfrei"
1873 root 1.387 %
1874 root 1.142 [a comment on the demonstrations against bush in london]
1875     The police will shoot you.
1876    
1877     OK, that's not strictly true. The CIA will shoot you. Then the police will
1878     arrest the CIA. Then American troops will invade.
1879    
1880 root 1.247 Just another average day in central London.
1881 root 1.387 %
1882 root 1.141 [this signature gave me a laugh...]
1883     [...]even better is if there is a system function that sends out an arp
1884     reply.
1885    
1886     pls. cc my email address
1887    
1888     tia
1889     pd
1890    
1891    
1892 root 1.247 --
1893 root 1.141 ^X^C
1894     q
1895     quit
1896     :q
1897     ^C
1898     end
1899     x
1900     exit
1901     ZZ
1902     ^D
1903     ?
1904     help
1905     shit
1906     .
1907 root 1.387 %
1908 root 1.140 * muppet also hates bloatus notes. it doesn't need vnc to make it slow.
1909 root 1.387 %
1910 root 1.140 [From the File::Spec manpage on catdir]
1911     Concatenate two or more directory names to form a complete path ending
1912     with a directory. But remove the trailing slash from the resulting string,
1913     because it doesn't look good, isn't necessary and confuses OS2. [...]
1914 root 1.387 %
1915 root 1.140 [I love it]
1916     http://www.swindonweb.com/life/lifemagi0.htm
1917     http://www.armin-grewe.com/holiday/wiltshire/swindon-roundabout.htm
1918 root 1.387 %
1919 root 1.139 "I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they go by."
1920     - Douglas Adams
1921 root 1.387 %
1922 root 1.138 Bill Gates is repeating the mantra that users are to blame for insecure
1923     PCs, in an interview with a Canadian newspaper. This refrain is familiar
1924     to the INQUIRER: Gates said more or less the same thing when he addressed
1925     an Assembly of CEOs in Berlin a few weeks ago.
1926    
1927 root 1.247 The chief software architect (CSA.'.) told IT Business that perfect code
1928     wasn't the answer to security problems, but firewalls and keeping the
1929     software up to date were more important. The problems that have occurred
1930     this year wouldn't have happened if firms and individuals had set up
1931     their software properly.
1932 root 1.138
1933     He also claims in the article that Microsoft has always had security
1934     patches out before the exploits happened. Developers were also to blame
1935     because they didn't understand the application program interfaces, Gates
1936     told the publication.
1937    
1938 root 1.247 And he also claimed that all forms of Unix and Linux have a greater
1939     number of vulnerabilities than Microsoft but don't spread as much because
1940     "they're not as dense" as Windows. Low volume software is hit by
1941     malicious people, high volume software, that is Windows, is hit by people
1942     who want visibility and glory.
1943 root 1.387 %
1944 root 1.137 [In the FAQ for a bootp client:]
1945    
1946     o You are using --server to point to a server which doesn't run a bootp server
1947    
1948     x Try not using it.
1949 root 1.387 %
1950 root 1.136 [http://www.politicalpulpit.com/Luke/LukeArchive0403.htm]
1951     The facts are simple: In Lynn, MA Principal of the Lynn English High
1952     School, Andrew Fila refused to allow teacher of English, Jeremy McKeen,
1953     to show the disputed film in his classes. McKeen had already submitted
1954     Moore's opus to his Department Head, Jane Balesta, for approval which she
1955     had given.
1956    
1957     Said Fila, "I just pulled it. This is not the time nor the place to be
1958     showing something like that. The producer (Moore) is also an anti war
1959     person as well."
1960 root 1.387 %
1961 root 1.136 [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0254686/]
1962 root 1.388 "Ich habe keine Gefühle, merken sie sich das, Walter. Und wenn ich welche
1963     habe, werden sie nie über meine Intelligenz siegen".
1964 root 1.387 %
1965 root 1.388 ["Was ist ein Kopierschutz überhaupt?"]
1966 root 1.135 [http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,270719,00.html]
1967 root 1.134
1968     Damit entspricht Windows der Definition eines illegalen Tools zur Umgehung
1969 root 1.388 des Kopierschutzes und müsste vom Markt genommen werden.
1970 root 1.135 [...]
1971 root 1.134 Das Bundesjustizministerium ist der Auffassung, dass die Frage nur durch
1972 root 1.388 ein Gericht zu klären sei. Das Programm "Windows" kenne man zu wenig.
1973 root 1.135 [...]
1974     Handelt es sich bei Windows also rechtlich um das Abwehren einer Straftat
1975     oder um das illegale Aushebeln eines Kopierschutzverfahrens?
1976 root 1.387 %
1977 root 1.134 http://www.nature.com/nsu/021209/021209-10.html#b1
1978 root 1.387 %
1979 root 1.132 [A document] Written to answer the often asked question about the requirements
1980     on the kernel to get a POSIX compliant thread implementation. And I don't
1981     mean an implementation like this horrible implementation from IBM.
1982     -- Ulrich Drepper
1983 root 1.387 %
1984 root 1.131 GCC generates truly horrible code when no optimization is enabled.
1985     -- Ulrich Drepper
1986 root 1.387 %
1987 root 1.131 Most programmers think that the programs they write are fairly well
1988     written and perform as good as possible. In most cases this is not
1989 root 1.133 correct. -- Ulrich Drepper
1990 root 1.387 %
1991 root 1.130 Even though I cannot accept the rejection of fair use rights by the film
1992     and music industry I cannot endorse piracy.
1993     -- Ulrich Drepper
1994 root 1.387 %
1995 root 1.130 Never say "PIC Code"!. This is duplication.
1996     -- Ulrich Drepper
1997 root 1.387 %
1998 root 1.129 [http://www.ffk.co.at/programme_ffksnetmanager.asp]
1999 root 1.388 Ping und Netsend laufen jetzt über die Windows API, daher schneller und
2000     zuverlässiger
2001 root 1.387 %
2002 root 1.129 [comment from linux/drivers/block/floppy.c]
2003     /*
2004     * 1999/08/13 -- Paul Slootman -- floppy stopped working on Alpha after 24
2005     * days, 6 hours, 32 minutes and 32 seconds (i.e. MAXINT jiffies; ints were
2006     * being used to store jiffies, which are unsigned longs).
2007     */
2008 root 1.387 %
2009 root 1.128 [Microsoft creates a problem and inspires an industry to work around it.
2010     Just Great. Also learn about Microsoft Logic(tm): DLL's save memory, so
2011     you need to use them. But please use your own private versions of all your
2012     dlls so that they aren't shared...]
2013     http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnsetup/html/dlldanger1.asp
2014 root 1.387 %
2015 root 1.128 [http://lorrie.cranor.org/pubs/drm03.html]
2016     Pirating Movies
2017    
2018     [...] The attackers aren't DVD owners making illegal copies and putting
2019     them on file sharing networks. The attackers are industry insiders making
2020     illegal copies long before the DVD is ever on the market.
2021 root 1.387 %
2022 root 1.128 [Look at the time scale...]
2023     http://www.networm.org/graphics/worm-progression.Sep03.pdf
2024 root 1.387 %
2025 root 1.127 [Just funny]
2026     http://www.zug.com/pranks/turnpike/
2027 root 1.387 %
2028 root 1.127 [http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,60391,00.html]
2029     The CEO of Symantec is advocating "legislation to criminalize the
2030     sharing of information and tools online that can be used by malicious
2031     hackers and virus writers." Doesn't he realize that most of his
2032     company's engineers would end up in jail?
2033 root 1.387 %
2034 root 1.126 [http://top40-charts.com/artist.php?aid=1145]
2035     Why is it you forgive Bush for saying "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET OSAMA".
2036     and "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET SADDAM". "I GUARANTEE THERE ARE WMD'S" etc
2037     etc. Yet now he could care less about them? Of course, Clinton lies about
2038     sex and that's a huge deal(not that i am justifying what Bubba did)
2039    
2040     Why is it when the marines stormed in, they protected the oil fields but
2041     left all the other resources of Iraq to be looted?
2042    
2043     Why is it that the White House doesn't want to release information on
2044     9/11, and only gave the investigation a $3 million budget?(it took $70
2045     million to find out Clinton got a BJ, and that's all they found out for
2046     $70 million!!). Meanwhile, even with a pathetic budget, the WH stonewalls
2047     the investigating committee. It's not enough for the WH to just underfund
2048     them, theyve got to make sure they can't get to any usefull information in
2049     the first place!
2050 root 1.387 %
2051 root 1.247 Buying a Unix machine guarantees you a descent into Hell. It starts when
2052     you plug the computer in and it won't boot. Yes, they really did sell you
2053     a $10,000 computer with an unformatted disk drive.
2054 root 1.125 -- Philip Greenspun
2055 root 1.387 %
2056 root 1.124 "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we
2057     don't believe in it at all." -- Noam Chomsky
2058 root 1.387 %
2059 root 1.124 "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right
2060     to say it." -- not actually from Voltaire
2061 root 1.387 %
2062 root 1.123 "Our ability to innovate is predicated on our ability to own the
2063     platform."
2064     [Kirk Koenigsbauer, strategy manager at Microsoft's MSN]
2065 root 1.387 %
2066 root 1.123 Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
2067     waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is that
2068     frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses
2069     and you can sitll raed it wiuthoit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not
2070     raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.
2071 root 1.320 [http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/personal/matt.davis/Cmabrigde/]
2072 root 1.387 %
2073 root 1.123 [The world is getting saner and saner. The whole world? No....]
2074     http://avirubin.com/vote.pdf
2075 root 1.387 %
2076 root 1.123 [http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1210067,00.asp]
2077     So what actually happens when your Windows XP machine crashes and asks
2078     if you want to send a report? The reports obviously accumulate in some
2079     database, and I can only assume that when one bin piles up with similar
2080     crash memos, the coders get to work. Exactly how many notifications does
2081     Microsoft get? Nobody knows for sure, but based on comments Bill Gates
2082     made at a recent meeting for analysts, the number must be astronomical.
2083     Gates said that 5 percent of Windows machines crash, on average, twice
2084     daily.
2085 root 1.387 %
2086 root 1.123 "...vielleicht praktisch manchmal auch mal geraten, das, wenn auch mal..."
2087 root 1.388 [Johann Gärtner, "Die Republikaner" bei einer Fernsehsendung über ihr
2088     Wahlprogramm. Das Zitat ist repräsentativ.]
2089 root 1.387 %
2090 root 1.123 [http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/rbt/condemn_text.htm]
2091     Critics of Congress and APA's concessions have analogized this situation
2092     to that of Galileo. At the APA's annual convention in August 1999 in
2093     Boston, an anonymous source, unknown to us, posted stickers around the
2094     convention that satirically read, "If the US Congress says that 'The sun
2095     revolves around the earth,' then that fact will be given most careful
2096     consideration in all articles published by the APA."
2097 root 1.387 %
2098 root 1.247 "It is insufficient to protect ourselves with laws; we need to protect ourselves with mathematics."
2099 root 1.123 -- Bruce Schneier
2100 root 1.387 %
2101 root 1.123 [it took me over 7 minutes to find this movie again on imdb...]
2102     [...so it must be good]
2103     http://german.imdb.com/title/tt0072131/
2104 root 1.387 %
2105 root 1.123 [mplayer/libmpcodecs/ad_realaud.c]
2106     [real uses a novel protection scheme...]
2107     raSetPwd(sh->context,"Ardubancel Quazanga"); // set password... lol.
2108 root 1.387 %
2109 root 1.120 [D-Info 3/2003 Database Dump]
2110     I've written a script that dumps the D-Info 2003 database as tsv to stdout.
2111     No idea why I announce it here...
2112 root 1.121 http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/data/dump-dinfo
2113 root 1.387 %
2114 root 1.119 [Oh My God!]
2115     Subject: aic7(censored) use after free in 2.5.66
2116 root 1.387 %
2117 root 1.119 [How many squares are on a go-board?]
2118 root 1.118 http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=UTF-8&client=googlet&selm=16394336.74521.15271%40kcbbs.gen.nz&rnum=2
2119 root 1.387 %
2120 root 1.117 [http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,1020303,00.html]
2121     When I first visited Russia, in 1986, I made friends with a musician whose
2122     father had been Brezhnev's personal doctor. One day we were talking about
2123     life during 'the period of stagnation' - the Brezhnev era. 'It must have
2124     been strange being so completely immersed in propaganda,' I said.
2125    
2126     'Ah, but there is the difference. We knew it was propaganda,' replied
2127     Sacha.
2128 root 1.387 %
2129 root 1.116 [From CRYPTO-GRAM]
2130     A reader sent in this conversation he overheard at a corporate security
2131     desk one morning:
2132    
2133     Employee: I have lost my photo-ID card, can I get a day pass please?
2134    
2135     Security Guard: Certainly, what is your serial number?
2136    
2137     Employee: 123456
2138    
2139     [Security guard pulls up the details on his computer, which includes a
2140     photograph of the employee.]
2141    
2142     Security Guard: Do you have a driver's license or another piece of
2143     identification which has your picture on it?
2144    
2145     Employee: Why would you need that?
2146    
2147     Security Guard: To match against our records.
2148    
2149     Employee: A picture of my face?
2150    
2151     Security Guard: Yes
2152    
2153     Employee: This is my face -- I am wearing it on my head.
2154    
2155     Security Guard: I need another piece of ID with a picture on it to
2156     compare against this one.
2157 root 1.387 %
2158 root 1.116 [Voting in the US might be in for surprises in the future]
2159     http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/voting.shtml
2160     [frankly, I don't trust any government if it's easy to fake votes]
2161 root 1.387 %
2162 root 1.116 MS Windows passwords can be cracked in an average of 13.6 seconds.
2163     Assuming your password consists of just letters and numbers, that is. But
2164     my guess is that almost everyone falls into that category.
2165    
2166     <http://news.com.com/2100-1009_3-5053063.html>
2167     <http://lasecpc13.epfl.ch/ntcrack/>
2168 root 1.387 %
2169 root 1.123 Eppur si muove!
2170 root 1.387 %
2171 root 1.116 [bwahahaha]
2172     "RV K-17"
2173 root 1.387 %
2174 root 1.116 "We're the world's greatest superpower, but we have a Third World
2175     electricity grid," said New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson.
2176 root 1.387 %
2177 root 1.116 [where NOT to learn german :)]
2178     [http://www.berlitz.at/worldclub/reise-spanisch/]
2179     <= Es ist 10:45 Uhr / viertel vor elf / dreiviertel zehn.
2180     => Son las once menos cuarto.
2181 root 1.387 %
2182 root 1.115 ceterum censeo carthaginem esse delendam
2183     ceterum censeo mundum non delendum esse
2184 root 1.387 %
2185 root 1.115 [http://www.urheberrecht.org/news/?id=1402&w=&p=1]
2186 root 1.388 Georgia Tornow, Generalsekretärin der Produzentenvereinigung film20 übt
2187     ebenfalls Kritik an der neuen Formulierung. »In anderen Ländern ist
2188 root 1.115 mitunter die Herstellung privater Kopien untersagt. Und in den USA wird
2189 root 1.388 sogar darüber nachgedacht, Geräte zur Kopienherstellung für illegal zu
2190     erklären«, so Tornow laut »blickpunktfilm.de«.
2191 root 1.387 %
2192 root 1.122 http://www.plif.com/archive/wc285.gif
2193 root 1.387 %
2194 root 1.115 [D-Info 2003, on my box:]
2195     Linux-Distribution nicht erkannt. Koennte RedHat sein.
2196 root 1.387 %
2197 root 1.115 [This patch removed the 75 records limit in D-Info 3/2003 linux for me]
2198     [patch dinfo.i386, YMMV]
2199     <00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba 4b00 0000 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
2200     >00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba ffff ff7f 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
2201 root 1.387 %
2202 root 1.115 [bwbasic-2.20pl2/bwbasic.doc]
2203     This program was originally begun in 1982 by my grandmother, Mrs.
2204     Verda Spell of Beaumont, TX. She was writing the program using
2205     an ANSI C compiler on an Osborne I CP/M computer and although my
2206     grandfather (Lockwood Spell) had bought an IBM PC with 256k of
2207     RAM my grandmother would not use it, paraphrasing George Herbert
2208     to the effect that "He who cannot in 64k program, cannot in 512k."
2209     She had used Microsoft BASIC and although she had nothing against
2210     it she said repeatedly that she didn't understand why Digital
2211     Research didn't "sue the socks off of Microsoft" for version 1.0
2212     of MSDOS and so I reckon that she hoped to undercut Microsoft's
2213     entire market and eventually build a new software empire on
2214     the North End of Beaumont. Her programming efforts were cut
2215     tragically short when she was thrown from a Beaumont to Port
2216     Arthur commuter train in the summer of 1986. I found the source
2217     code to bwBASIC on a single-density Osborne diskette in her knitting
2218     bag and eventually managed to have it all copied over to a PC
2219     diskette. I have revised it slightly prior to this release. You
2220     should know, though, that I myself am an historian, not a programmer.
2221 root 1.387 %
2222 root 1.114 [what high dan players in go think while playing:]
2223     "Must kill ... black stones ... black stones ... must die"
2224 root 1.387 %
2225 root 1.114 [the one and only time rcp failed for me, at the very end of the transfer]
2226     rcp: protocol screwup: mtime.sec not delimited
2227 root 1.387 %
2228 root 1.113 [Wasteland]
2229     Lester Moore,
2230     Shot in the head with a .44.
2231     No Les, no more.
2232 root 1.387 %
2233 root 1.113 [SSK@DFpkjvKWA0kGPZUgm9LkJE1jX4cPAgM/MattersPhallic/4//]
2234     Mormon advice on how to abstain from wanking
2235    
2236     STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION
2237     [for the rest of this entertaining document see the freesite]
2238 root 1.387 %
2239 root 1.113 [Fallout]
2240     Here lies the body of Jonathan Blake
2241     Stepped on the gas instead of the brake
2242 root 1.387 %
2243 root 1.111 [http://www.counterpane.com/pptpv2-paper.html]
2244     As we will discuss later, multiple layers of hashing are used in the
2245     different steps of MS-CHAPv2. While this hashing serves to obscure some
2246     of the values, it is unclear what the cryptographic significance of them
2247     are. All they seem to do is to slow down the execution of the protocol.
2248 root 1.112 [...]
2249     It is unclear to us why this protocol is so complicated.
2250     [...]
2251     The Server concatenates the password-hash-hash, the 24-byte NT response,
2252     and the literal string "Magic server to client constant", and then hashes
2253     the result with SHA.
2254 root 1.387 %
2255 root 1.388 > Für viele wird interessant sein, dass ich bisher bei jedem Kunden
2256 root 1.111 > rechnerisch nachweisen konnte, dass OpenSource !immer! der teurere Weg
2257     > ist!
2258 root 1.388 Das bedeutet, daß durch Offenlegung des Source Codes eines Produkts
2259     plötzlich höhere Aufwände entstehen? Was für ein Kundensegment betreust
2260 root 1.111 Du denn? Analphabeten?
2261 root 1.387 %
2262 root 1.388 "Der Sun-Forte-Compiler ist näher am C++-Standard als G++"
2263     [Jörg Schilling, CeBit 2003]
2264 root 1.387 %
2265 root 1.109 17:21 <elmex> ok, sex kann ich nicht, aber ich kann vim und Perl ;)
2266 root 1.387 %
2267 root 1.108 [Biggest ping rtt I've ever seen]
2268     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=473 ttl=128 time=779.5 ms
2269     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=474 ttl=128 time=524.1 ms
2270     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=475 ttl=128 time=275.6 ms
2271     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=539 ttl=128 time=656365.4 ms
2272     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=540 ttl=128 time=655365.5 ms
2273 root 1.387 %
2274 root 1.108 [I once used a vped.conf from windows on linux, and then had to:]
2275     tcpdump -eni\\\\.\\{F2CB3DC8-1
2276 root 1.387 %
2277 root 1.107 [links are free ;)]
2278     http://knowthetruth.b0x.com/Bush_Family/Bush_-_Hitler/bush_-_hitler.html
2279 root 1.387 %
2280 root 1.106 [http://pobox.com/~oleg/MacHack96/]
2281     Can software development be elevated from the Microsoft style?
2282 root 1.387 %
2283 root 1.105 [openssl, crypto/evp/evp_enc.c]
2284    
2285     /* One positive side-effect of US's export
2286     * control history, is that we should at least
2287     * be able to avoid using US mispellings of
2288     * "initialisation"? */
2289     EVPerr(EVP_F_EVP_CIPHERINIT, EVP_R_INITIALIZATION_ERROR);
2290 root 1.387 %
2291 root 1.105 [man pem]
2292     Although the PEM routines take several arguments in almost all applications most of them are set to 0 or NULL.
2293 root 1.387 %
2294 root 1.105 [pth_native.c]
2295    
2296     /* ``If you can't do it in
2297 root 1.247 ANSI C, it isn't worth doing.''
2298 root 1.105 -- Unknown */
2299 root 1.387 %
2300 root 1.104 [subculture]
2301 root 1.388 ... scorp sind lucker und use script lamer aber über cheater aufregen
2302     mehr nich und zu fünft in nem raum sitzen und dann public zocken und dann
2303 root 1.104 skillig vorkommen ...
2304    
2305     [http://forum.topwebmaster.net/extern/de/Ricoohh/thread/9196-77365]
2306     %%%
2307     [back to the roots. you might not understand the following, but
2308     this list is about things _I_ find funny, not you... :)]
2309 root 1.247 00:16 <elmex> 'mit windows netzwerk zu debuggen ist ungefaehr so sinnvoll wie eine
2310 root 1.104 gehirnoperation mit einem vorschlaghammer'
2311 root 1.247 00:18 <oesi> elmex: da ich in deinem ignore bin, kann ich ja volltrottel sagen.
2312 root 1.104 ethereal rennt seit jahren unter win32
2313     00:18 <elmex> oesi: ja, aber netzwerk nicht ;)
2314 root 1.387 %
2315 root 1.103 [http://home.rhein-zeitung.de/~cknust/detroit/a-z/medikamt.htm]
2316 root 1.388 ... Den Amerikanern sind Zäpfchen ebenso wie rektales Fiebermessen absolut
2317     suspekt; der Verdacht der Kinderschändung steht sofort unausgesprochen im
2318     Raum. Zäpfchen ("Suppositorium") werden allenfalls in der Notfallmedizin
2319 root 1.103 im Krankenhaus verwendet. Haben Sie ein Kind, das an Asthma oder
2320 root 1.388 Pseudo-Krupp-Anfällen leidet, bringen Sie sich einen entsprechenden Vorrat
2321     an Zäpfchen unbedingt mit, erwähnen Sie diese aber, soweit möglich, nicht
2322     vor amerikanischen Ärzten. ...
2323 root 1.387 %
2324 root 1.102 sendmail ist wie masturbation mit einer gurkenraspel, erzeugt viele spaene
2325     aber wenig freude.
2326 root 1.387 %
2327 root 1.102 [from a deviance.nfo, looking for new members, I think it's waaay funny]
2328     - you are a Unix guru with good Ansi-C software developing knowledge
2329     and understanding how to prevent network security vulnerabilities.
2330     That means you must be able to code to ansi-c guru level. And you
2331     must also have a good coder perspective of hostbase and network
2332     based intrusion detection systems. You should be able to code tools
2333     to generically prevent stack and heap buffer overflows on unix in
2334     Ansi-C. And Be able to code tools to look after a group of systems
2335     and code sniffing avoidance tools. And you can configure a system
2336     in ways to prevent packet sniffers and "man in the middle" attacks.
2337 root 1.387 %
2338 root 1.388 17:39 <schmorp> marco: flüge von hannover/dortmund [nach sofia] etc. sind glatt
2339     doppelt so teuer wie die gleichen von stuttgart/münchen/frankfurt
2340 root 1.101 17:39 <marco> schmorp: da wollen zu viele weg und zu wenig hin... also sind die
2341     fluege dort nur halb ausgelastet *g*
2342 root 1.387 %
2343 root 1.100 For me, this article simply illustrates that centralised trust models
2344     don't work well in practise.
2345     http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/12/09/021209opwinman.xml
2346 root 1.387 %
2347 root 1.99 [Rumsfeld in a CNN interview]
2348     There is an old saying, in the pentagon:
2349     "ready, fire, aim."
2350 root 1.387 %
2351 root 1.98 [...] You're allowed to resell the [windows] media but not the
2352     license. "Unfortunately" for Microsoft, this distinction is illegal in
2353     free countries like Germany [1].
2354     [...]
2355     Regards
2356     Henning
2357    
2358     [1] The current german governement is actively trying to change this
2359     part of the german law. That's what you get for electing morons who
2360     might look good on TV. At this point, we're already on U.S. levels.
2361 root 1.387 %
2362 root 1.98 [...]
2363     The GPL does not restrict you. Contrary, it uses copyright law to
2364     establish a pool of software with much more freedom as copyright law gives
2365     to you. It only does not give you so much freedom to deny other people the
2366     same freedoms. The copyright holders can only do so, because copyright law
2367     itself give you none of these rights at all.
2368     [...]
2369     Wolfgang Walter
2370 root 1.387 %
2371 root 1.98 burro: i once played against a computer
2372     burro: it seemed very clever
2373     burro: but then all its groups died in yose
2374     burro: it forgot to defend later..
2375     burro: oops
2376     burro: accidental poetry
2377 root 1.387 %
2378 root 1.98 [about a go game between a pro player and some really good amateur,
2379     where white could have lived easily but decided to risk it]
2380     yoyoma [7k]: white is pro, rather die gloriosly than live in gote with a7!
2381 root 1.387 %
2382 root 1.98 [from the default config of the oh-so-broken unrealircd]
2383     #define BIG_SECURITY_HOLE
2384 root 1.387 %
2385 root 1.98 "In fact the whole of Japan is pure invention. There is no such country, there are no such people."
2386     -- Oscar Wilde
2387 root 1.387 %
2388 root 1.98 [a principle used in florida's law]
2389     "guilty until proven innocent"
2390     [http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/main.htm]
2391 root 1.387 %
2392 root 1.98 Wonderful news! A little Jewish woman, calling Mount Sinai Hospital,
2393     said, "Hello, darling, I'd like to talk with the person who gives the
2394     information regarding your patients. I want to know if the patient is
2395     getting better, or doing like expected, or is getting worse." The voice
2396     on the other end of the line said, "What is the patient's name and room
2397     number?" She said, "Yes, darling! she's Sarah Finkel, in Room 302." He
2398     said, "Oh, yes. Mrs. Finkel is doing very well. In fact, she's had two
2399     full meals, her blood pressure is fine, her blood work just came back
2400     as normal, she's going to be taken off the heart monitor in a couple of
2401     hours and if she continues this improvement, Dr. Cohen is going to send
2402     her home Tuesday at twelve o' clock." The woman said, "Thank God! That's
2403     wonderful! Oh! that's fantastic, darling!... That's wonderful news!" The
2404     man on the phone said, "From your enthusiasm, I take it you must be a
2405     close family member or a very close friend!" She said, "I'm Sarah Finkel
2406     in 302! My doctor doesn't tell me shit!
2407 root 1.387 %
2408 root 1.98 [gcc-3.2/.../sstream>
2409     // NB: Start ostringstream buffers at 512 bytes. This is an
2410     // experimental value (pronounced "arbitrary" in some of the
2411     // hipper english-speaking countries), and can be changed to
2412     // suit particular needs.
2413     _M_buf_size_opt = 512;
2414 root 1.387 %
2415 root 1.98 [members.aon.at/paulinchen/advtex/sanitar.htm]
2416     [Walkthrough SANITARIUM]
2417     ... Deshalb suchst du erneut den Wassertempel auf. ... Dort haust du als
2418 root 1.388 Grimwall den Lukas ... Darauf hin öffnet der Clown seinen Mund und du
2419 root 1.98 kannst als Olmec die Melodie ...
2420 root 1.387 %
2421 root 1.97 [Onibaba - Great Movie]
2422     http://us.imdb.com/Title?0058430
2423 root 1.387 %
2424 root 1.97 [Kuroneko - I'd like to see :(]
2425     http://us.imdb.com/Title?0122136
2426 root 1.387 %
2427 root 1.96 [<Sesse> microsoft finally takes security seriously]
2428     [http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q276304]
2429     Error Message: Your Password Must Be at Least 18770 Characters and Cannot Repeat Any of Your Previous 30689 Passwords
2430 root 1.387 %
2431 root 1.96 GNU Emacs kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 11.300
2432     vi - Editor. Kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 2.333
2433 root 1.388 XML für Dummies. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 225.881
2434     JavaScript für Dummies. Dynamische Websites selbst gemacht. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 24.576
2435 root 1.387 %
2436 root 1.96 [http://kyushu.com/gleaner/editorspick/seppuku.shtml]
2437    
2438     [...] Obviously you have to decide well in advance why you are doing
2439     [seppuku] [...] Resistance, remonstrance, show of loyalty, affirmation of
2440     the correctness of one's own position, expiation of a crime and the wiping
2441     out of disgrace are all perfectly good reasons; being refused a work visa
2442     is not [...]
2443 root 1.387 %
2444 root 1.247 Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd
2445 root 1.95 all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
2446     repetitive electronic music." --Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
2447 root 1.387 %
2448 root 1.94 [some hilights from:]
2449     [http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/Fachbegriffe.der.Informatik.html]
2450    
2451 root 1.388 _Einfach erklärt_
2452 root 1.94
2453     GUI
2454     Ein Hintergrundbild und 12 Xterms
2455     Globale Variable
2456 root 1.388 Parameterübergabemechanismus in 4GLs
2457 root 1.94 objektorientiert
2458     Den Code habe ich von meinem Vorgaenger geerbt.
2459     strukturiert
2460     dieses Programm besteht aus mehreren Funktionen
2461     Multithreaded
2462 root 1.388 Wir mußten ein Flußdiagramm malen, um es zu debuggen.
2463 root 1.94 Windows 95
2464 root 1.388 Das Fortran 77 der Benutzungsoberflächen
2465 root 1.94 Emacs
2466 root 1.388 Ich habe ja auch nie bezweifelt, daß emacs ein tolles Betriebssystem
2467     ist. Aber um mit Linux oder Windows konkurrieren zu können, fehlt ihm
2468     ein vernünftiger Editor.
2469 root 1.94 IPv6
2470     $ telnet hundehalsband.georg.hunde.sonnenstrasse.muenchen.de
2471     Trying 942884947298374923847982472983. 2398749874987249247.
2472     2398472372349. 3249782374927898324. 2987238479874987398634.
2473     2987428901171209471. 23987432923. 23478987923.
2474 root 1.388 Die fünf Sinne des C++-Programmierers
2475     Der Schwachsinn, der Blödsinn, der Wahnsinn, der Unsinn und der Stumpfsinn.
2476 root 1.247 PHP
2477 root 1.388 Meine C-64-Basic-Übungen hat niemand zu Gesicht bekommen, während die
2478 root 1.94 in PHP verbrochenen Laufstall-Verunfallungen heutiger Milchgesichter
2479 root 1.388 die Welt verpesten und womöglich von Schlipstraeger-Deppen als
2480     e-Commerce-Lösung gekauft worden sind.
2481 root 1.247 Alleinstellungsmerkmal
2482 root 1.94 Bunt.
2483 root 1.388 Plattformunabhängig
2484     Wenn Du GWBASIC im Dos-Emulator laufen läßt bist Du auch
2485     plattformunabhängig! Du brauchst nur einen Dos-Emulator!
2486 root 1.95 [94: Copyright left out, too long, see original url]
2487 root 1.387 %
2488 root 1.93 [logic & fallacies]
2489     http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html
2490 root 1.387 %
2491 root 1.93 http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/library/wonderful/index.php
2492 root 1.387 %
2493 root 1.93 [nah]
2494     In the Arthur Penn film "Night Moves," someone asks Gene Hackman for an
2495     appraisal of Eric Rohmer's work, to which he replies, "it's like watching
2496     paint dry."
2497 root 1.387 %
2498 root 1.92 http://www2.psy.uq.edu.au/~jay/papers/thesis.pdf
2499     http://home.attbi.com/~bglodis/htmf/AI2-GO2.htm
2500     http://newyork.villageworld.com/users/bradleym/index.htm
2501 root 1.387 %
2502 root 1.178 [Keith Packard about some design holes in X that lead to XRender]
2503 root 1.91 The rules themselves may be broken, but their existence is of vital
2504     importance.
2505 root 1.387 %
2506 root 1.91 [http://cbbrowne.com/info/xpersonal.html]
2507     [_very_ good pages, read them all!]
2508     Many things have been hacked onto Win32; unfortunately, actually using
2509     Windows-based facilities has two massive detrimental effects:
2510    
2511     You have to trust Microsoft.
2512    
2513     There are a number of things that I would trust Microsoft with. I trust
2514     Microsoft to continue to release buggy software such as the Windows 98
2515     release that needed patches to survive to 1999, let alone 2000. I trust
2516     Microsoft to continue to release software that gets more bloated such
2517     that it requires as much memory as systems can support just to support
2518     useless chrome.
2519    
2520     But control over whether my code will continue to be usable next year
2521     whether due to technical or licensing changes is not one of the things
2522     I'd like to trust them with.
2523 root 1.93 [...]
2524 root 1.387 %
2525 root 1.91 [when choosing "About" from the mozilla menu]
2526     [now, which OS let's us enjoy similar error messages all the time? ;)]
2527     XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
2528     Location: jar:resource:///chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/global/about.xhtml
2529     Line Number 90, Column 15:
2530 root 1.247 <li>Copyright &copy; 1998-2002 by <a href="about:credits">Contributors</a> to
2531 root 1.91 --------------^
2532 root 1.387 %
2533 root 1.91 [from the kanon 10% english translation patch README]
2534     [http://haeleth.port5.com/]
2535     A Japanese effect not found in English is the wonderful verbless sentence,
2536     which I like so much that I've translated a few literally. I do know
2537     English grammar, I assure you.
2538 root 1.387 %
2539 root 1.91 Giant hornets regularly attack beehives. Typically, an attack begins when
2540     a single hornet captures a lone bee nearby the hive. After several of
2541     these perimeter skirmishes, one hornet leaves a marking pheromone at the
2542     hive's entrance. This pheromone attracts the other hornets, who arrive
2543     en masse and attack the beehive. The bees' stingers can't penetrate the
2544     hornets' armor, so it's a one-sided slaughter; something like 30,000 bees
2545     can be killed in a few hours by 30-40 hornets.
2546    
2547     Japanese honeybees, however, have evolved an interesting defensive
2548     strategy. When a hornet marks the hive's entrance, the bees guarding the
2549     entrance return to the hive and wait for the attacking hornets. This has
2550     the effect of luring the first attacking hornets into the hive, rather
2551     than allowing them to start their attack outside. Simultaneously, over
2552     1000 worker bees in the hive leave the combs and mass just inside the
2553     hive's entrance. When a hornet tries to enter the hive, the workers
2554     surround it, forming a ball of bodies, and cook it to death with their
2555     body heat. The bees also release a pheromone that draws ever more bees
2556     from the hive's interior to come to the entrance and defend the nest.
2557    
2558     This strategy must be perfect in order to be successful. If the bees fail
2559     in killing the first hornet attackers, then the hornet pheromone gets
2560     stronger, and more hornets arrive to reinforce their attack. By sheer
2561     numbers, the hornets can overpower the bees.
2562    
2563     Source: Bernd Heinrich, "The Thermal Warriors: Strategies of Insect
2564     Survival," Harvard University Press, 1996.
2565 root 1.387 %
2566 root 1.91 [http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/csrss-backspace-bug.html]
2567     [fixed in latest service packs, but still funny ;)]
2568     The following neat little program, when compiled and run, will completely
2569     crash XP (and any earlier version of NT) (when I ran it, XP rebooted). I
2570     don't recommend you really try this program, but if you do, save all your
2571     work etc first:
2572    
2573     #include <stdio.h>
2574    
2575     int main (void) {
2576     while (1)
2577     printf ("\t\t\b\b\b\b\b\b");
2578    
2579     return 0;
2580     }
2581 root 1.387 %
2582 root 1.91 [you might point your windows-using-friends to this page, it
2583     contains a lot of funny FUD ;)]
2584 root 1.90 http://www.hevanet.com/peace/microsoft.htm
2585 root 1.387 %
2586 root 1.90 [http://eros.cs.jhu.edu/~shap/NT-EAL4.html]
2587     Security experts have been saying for years that the the security of
2588     the Windows family of products is hopelessly inadequate. Now there is a
2589     rigorous government certification confirming this.
2590 root 1.387 %
2591 root 1.89 [mms_client after finishing the download]
2592     everything done. Thank you for downloading a media file containing
2593     proprietary and patentend technology.
2594 root 1.387 %
2595 root 1.88 I wouldn't want to win the Steven Spielberg Award - he is an amateur!
2596 root 1.388 -- Aki Kaurismäki
2597 root 1.387 %
2598 root 1.87 [http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/godel.html]
2599 root 1.388 "The Gödelian structure of the unity of levels of Reality associated
2600 root 1.87 with the logic of the included middle implies that it is impossible to
2601     construct a complete theory for describing the passage from one level to
2602     the other and, a fortiori, for describing the unity of levels of Reality."
2603 root 1.387 %
2604 root 1.388 1. Das von den Parteien eingeführte Listenwahlrecht verstößt gegen
2605     Art. 38, Abs. 1, Satz 1 Grundgesetz (GG): »Die Abgeordneten des Deutschen
2606 root 1.87 Bundestages werden in allgemeiner, unmittelbarer, freier, gleicher und
2607 root 1.388 geheimer Wahl gewählt.« Danach muß es dem Bürger möglich sein, seinen
2608     Abgeordneten unmittelbar zu wählen. Die Wahl von Parteienlisten ist also
2609 root 1.87 verfassungswidrig, nicht zuletzt deshalb, weil hierbei Kandidaten zum Zuge
2610 root 1.388 kommen, die der Listenwähler nicht wählen will.
2611 root 1.87
2612 root 1.388 2. Der Fraktionszwang verstößt ebenfalls gegen das Grundgesetz. Satz
2613     2 des Art. 38, Abs. 1, lautet nämlich: »Sie (die Abgeordneten) sind
2614     Vertreter des ganzen Volkes, an Aufträge und Weisungen nicht gebunden
2615     und nur ihrem Gewissen unterworfen.« Wenn Fraktionsvorsitzende den frei
2616     gewählten Abgeordneten einer Fraktionsdisziplin unterwerfen (und das noch
2617     unter Androhung von Sanktionen), erteilen sie Weisungen darüber, wie die
2618 root 1.87 Abgeordneten der Partei abzustimmen haben. Es handelt sich dann um eine
2619     Form fraktionsinternen imperativen Mandats.
2620    
2621 root 1.388 3. Die überbordende Staatsverschuldung (vor allem im Bund) verstößt gegen
2622     Art. 115 des GG. Darin heißt es in Abs. 1, Satz 2: »Die Einnahmen aus
2623     Krediten dürfen die Summe der im Haushaltsplan veranschlagten Ausgaben für
2624     Investitionen nicht überschreiten; Ausnahmen sind nur zulässig zur Abwehr
2625     einer Störung des gesamtwirtschaftlichen Gleichgewichts.« Unter Fachleuten
2626     besteht nicht der geringste Zweifel, daß das vorgeschriebene Kreditlimit
2627     (Höhe der »Ausgaben für Investitionen«) durch Haushaltstricks sträflich
2628     überschritten wurde. Die Folge: Im Jahre 2001 erreichte die Verschuldung
2629     der Gebietskörperschaften die unvorstellbare Höhe von 1.210 Mrd. Euro (im
2630     Bund: 700 Mrd. Euro); das sind 79 Prozent des jährlichen Volkseinkommens
2631 root 1.87 von 1.531 Mrd. Euro.
2632 root 1.387 %
2633 root 1.87 [just FMI (for my information)]
2634     http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7eflavell/charset/form-i18n.html
2635 root 1.387 %
2636 root 1.87 [perldoc perlboot]
2637     Typically, each @ISA has only one element (multiple elements means
2638     multiple inheritance and multiple headaches)
2639 root 1.387 %
2640 root 1.87 [I find that all this stallman-bashing is a sure sign that that
2641     "linux" thing will fail]
2642     In lists.linux.kernel.development, Larry McVoy wrote:
2643     [...]
2644 root 1.247 Richard Stallman started the free software foundation. He built the
2645 root 1.87 compiler, library and zillions of other tools that developers use on a day
2646     to day basis. He slept at the offices of MIT while he spent his time,
2647     effort and money building up the Free Software Foundation.
2648    
2649     Though many people differ with him on a wide variety of issues, he
2650     deserves respect from all because he has devoted twenty years of his
2651     life to the public good.
2652    
2653     You, on the other hand, develop and sell a proprietary software product.
2654     You convinced a large number of kernel developers (most importantly
2655     Linus himself) to use your proprietary product to develop free software,
2656     so that you could tell potential customers "Gee! Look how great my
2657     software is! It's used to develop the linux kernel!"
2658    
2659     You don't care about free software Larry. You're just glad that you have
2660     a poster child to display your effort. Want proof? Look at how you have
2661     treated numerous kernel developers when you found out that they worked
2662     on free software projects that could potentially compete with your
2663     software some day -- you revoke their "free" license to use your
2664     software to work on the linux kernel!
2665    
2666     Richard is trying to change the world into a better place. You, however,
2667     are trying to get rich, and you're using free software as a stepping
2668     stone to promote your proprietary software. Nothing wrong with getting
2669     rich of course -- I'd love to be rich too. But you certainly don't
2670     deserve to be lumped into the same group as RMS.
2671 root 1.387 %
2672 root 1.86 [perldoc perlreftut]
2673 root 1.247 What does line 4 do here?
2674     [...]
2675     This is Perl, so it does the exact right thing.
2676 root 1.387 %
2677 root 1.86 [perldoc perlreftut]
2678     Think of the President of the United States: a messy, inconvenient bag of
2679     blood and bones. But to talk about him, or to represent him in a computer
2680     program, all you need is the easy, convenient scalar string "George Bush".
2681 root 1.387 %
2682 root 1.86 [rise and fall of free software standards]
2683 root 1.247 * GNU Gettext and %expect
2684     GNU Gettext asserts 10 s/r conflicts, but there are 7. Now that
2685     Bison dies on incorrect %expectations, we fear there will be
2686     too many bug reports for Gettext, so _for the time being_, %expect
2687     does not trigger an error when the input file is named `plural.y'.
2688 root 1.387 %
2689 root 1.86 Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers.
2690     -- Leonard Brandwein
2691 root 1.387 %
2692 root 1.85 [11:57] <schmorp> email@wanadoo.fr
2693 root 1.247 [11:57] <schmorp> you know what wannados are?
2694     [11:58] <Arvoreen> the french pendant of aol users ??
2695     [11:58] <schmorp> nope
2696     [11:58] <Arvoreen> then no clue
2697     [11:58] <schmorp> "people who fail before they even try"
2698     [12:00] <Zeograd> wanadoo was actually named following this idea, *sigh*
2699     [12:00] <schmorp> not really, yes?
2700     [12:00] <Zeograd> yes
2701     [12:00] <schmorp> ;);)
2702     [12:03] <schmorp> that "yes" sounded really painful
2703     [12:03] <Zeograd> more than you could imagine :)
2704 root 1.387 %
2705 root 1.247 [11:37] <Arvoreen> Oui mon francais est un peu
2706     [11:38] <Zeograd> Arvoreen: not bad, it doesn't mean much but it sounds french :)
2707 root 1.387 %
2708 root 1.84 A Russian hacker was sentenced to three years in prison here in the
2709     United States for breaking computer crime laws here. It's an
2710     interesting story. He was in Russia at the time, and broke no laws in
2711     his country. However, the U.S. prosecution broke Russian laws to
2712     collect evidence against him. The judge agreed with the FBI's
2713     assertion that Russian law didn't apply to them. Isn't international
2714     jurisprudence fun?
2715     <http://in.tech.yahoo.com/021005/137/1w2bq.html>
2716 root 1.387 %
2717 root 1.247 [02:58] <Sesse> microsoft finally gets it:
2718     [02:58] <Sesse> Visual Basic .NET delivers the feature most requested by existing Visual Basic
2719     [02:58] <Sesse> developers--fewer bugs in the code they write.
2720 root 1.84 [...]
2721 root 1.247 [03:00] <Sesse> "VB programmers have finally found out they lack talent, and blame Microsoft" ;-)
2722 root 1.387 %
2723 root 1.84 [found at www.imdb.com]
2724     the trouble with the global village are all the global village idiots.
2725     - Paul Ginsparg.
2726 root 1.387 %
2727 root 1.84 prionbrain: A joke I just read: " A girl phoned me the other day and
2728     said, .. come on over, there's nobody home. I went over. There was nobody
2729     home.":))
2730     [erm...]
2731 root 1.387 %
2732 root 1.84 > described above, CONFIG_XBOX_SUPPORT will depend on CONFIG_PCI.
2733    
2734 root 1.247 Which seems fair enough. ISA bus X-box systems are suprisingly rare
2735 root 1.387 %
2736 root 1.247 [05:06] <elmex> windows has 2 left hands when it comes to being an OS
2737 root 1.387 %
2738 root 1.83 [http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/mml/mduerst/papers/PDF/IUC11-UTF-8.pdf]
2739    
2740     [...] In particular, the following behaviour proposed or observed in some
2741     implementations is not UTF-8 and should never be presented as such. First,
2742     UTF16 surrogate pairs could be encoded in UTF-8 as two sequences of 3
2743     bytes each (this behaviour is observed in some Java implementations).
2744 root 1.387 %
2745 root 1.83 .+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+''
2746     / \ / \ / \ / \ /
2747     .+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+'
2748 root 1.387 %
2749 root 1.82 From: "David S. Miller"
2750 root 1.83
2751     > Then shouldn't the thing thats different from the norm be programmed into a header file which contains how certain functions should be+++
2752 root 1.82
2753     If I gave you a dollar, would you go out and buy some newlines
2754     to use in future emails?
2755 root 1.387 %
2756 root 1.82 Could somebody drag the Irix team kicking and screaming into the 1980's,
2757     please?
2758    
2759     I realize it might be quite painful for them, but maybe you could buy them
2760     a disco tape, so they'd feel a little bit more at home.
2761    
2762 root 1.247 Linus "Stayin' alive, stayin' alive" Torvalds
2763 root 1.387 %
2764 root 1.82 Yesterday, the local Brazilian authorities signed a decree stating that the
2765     Brazilian daylight saving period will start on November 3rd 2002 and will
2766     last until February 16th 2003.
2767    
2768     So, clocks will be set one hour forward on November 3rd (12:00 a.m. will be
2769     changed to 1:00 a.m.) and at midnight (0:00 am) on February 16th, Brazil
2770     will adjust its clocks back one hour (23:00 pm on Feb 15th) marking the
2771     end.
2772    
2773     The reason for the delay this year has to do with elections in Brazil.
2774    
2775     Unlike in the United States, elections in Brazil are 100% computerized and
2776     the results are known almost immediately. Yesterday, it was the first
2777     round of the elections when 115 million Brazilians voted for President,
2778     Governor, Senators, Federal Deputies, and State Deputies. Nobody is
2779     counting (or re-counting) votes anymore and we know there will be a second
2780     round for the Presidency and also for some Governors. The 2nd round will
2781     take place on October 27th.
2782    
2783     The reason why the DST will only begin November 3rd is that the thousands
2784     of electoral machines used cannot have their time changed, and since the
2785     Constitution says the elections must begin at 8:00 AM and end at 5:00 PM ,
2786     the Government decided to postpone DST, instead of changing the
2787     Constitution (maybe, for the next elections, it will be possible to change
2788     the clock)...
2789 root 1.387 %
2790 root 1.81 [boycot your enemies]
2791     > We're a business. We're a business which happens to be committed to
2792     > helping the kernel team because we think that the kernel is vital to the
2793     > world at large. Helping the kernel absolutely does not translate to
2794     > helping people who happen to be our competitors. By your own
2795    
2796     Stop lying. Your job is to make lots of money and you are using Linux as
2797     cheap advertising. You are trying to make people pay *you* to do kernel
2798     development (as it stands you want $5000 for any bk-using developer inside
2799     RedHat and SuSE).
2800    
2801     I hope your company dies ASAP and bitkeeper stops poisoning air here.
2802    
2803     Pavel
2804 root 1.387 %
2805 root 1.81 Rik
2806 root 1.247 --
2807 root 1.81 A: No.
2808     Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?
2809 root 1.387 %
2810 root 1.81 > Incidently unlimited permission is granted to use disks containing only
2811 root 1.247 > GNU/Linux software as footballs without royalties. All other usage of
2812     > disks as footballs will be considered on a per case basis.
2813 root 1.81
2814     I would be inclined to allow this for Windows drives instead. They contain
2815     no useful data.
2816    
2817 root 1.247 --
2818 root 1.81 bill davidsen
2819 root 1.387 %
2820 root 1.80 In the switching software (written in C)
2821     there was a long do..while construct,
2822     which contained a switch statement,
2823     which contained an if clause,
2824     which contained a break,
2825     which was intended for the if clause,
2826     but instead broke from the switch statement.
2827    
2828     - Network message explaining the breakdown of the AT&T long-distance
2829     network January 15, 1990
2830 root 1.387 %
2831 root 1.80 [From "password retrieval policies" of some irc network:]
2832    
2833 root 1.247 They are likely to continue asking for the password, even after you have
2834     told them that it has been E-Mailed. /Ignore the stupid user. /Kick the
2835     stupid user. Do not /Kill the stupid user, since being stupid is not a
2836     violation of network policies.
2837 root 1.80
2838     [the same document, explaining K:Lines]
2839    
2840     K:Lines - These lines define which clients are not allowed to connect.
2841     The format is as follows:
2842    
2843     K:*.aol.com:AOL sucks:lamer
2844 root 1.387 %
2845 root 1.79 [Microsoft's Craig Mundie on security.]
2846     "People confuse 'security' and Trustworthy Computing."
2847     http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/features/2002/feb02/02-20mundieqa.asp
2848 root 1.387 %
2849 root 1.79 http://staging.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/09/05/020905hnmssecure.xml
2850     "I'm not proud," [Brian] Valentine [senior vice president in charge of
2851     Microsoft's Windows development team] said, as he spoke to a crowd of
2852     developers here at the company's Windows .Net Server developer
2853     conference. "We really haven't done everything we could to protect our
2854     customers ... Our products just aren't engineered for security."
2855     ...
2856     "If you go back a few years, unless you were working on login at
2857     Microsoft, you really didn't worry about security. The risk wasn't worth
2858     the effort."
2859 root 1.387 %
2860 root 1.79 http://www.satirewire.com/news/aug02/encryption.shtml
2861 root 1.387 %
2862 root 1.79 [please bear with me and understand that I didn't intend to drive
2863     gay people mad at me with this one...]
2864 root 1.78 [10:16] <pixelpapst> Wenn man ihn mal mit so 'nem richtigen Bilderbuch-Schwulen wie
2865 root 1.247 Lukas vergleicht :)
2866     [10:16] <elmex> Lukas is net schwul, er is Consultant
2867 root 1.387 %
2868 root 1.76 http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/tenseg1.html
2869 root 1.387 %
2870 root 1.76 http://24.86.132.253/090101/feature/feature.htm
2871 root 1.387 %
2872 root 1.76 I maintain a /bin/ps that supports BSD, SysV, and Gnu syntax all at the
2873     same time. It requires Linux. This one works; the Red Hat one is broken.
2874     [Albert Cahalan]
2875 root 1.387 %
2876 root 1.75 The Berkeley shell csh is reasonably well known and widely used and its
2877     externals have been subject to some criticism. The internals of csh are at
2878     least as bad, but lesser known.
2879 root 1.387 %
2880 root 1.75 There are billions of different ways of parsing argv, the list of command
2881     line arguments passed to a C program. The problem is that they are all
2882     different.
2883 root 1.387 %
2884 root 1.75 A common disease in programs written at Berkeley is to open /dev/kmem and grub the load averages out by the dirtiest means possible.
2885 root 1.387 %
2886 root 1.76 [no, I still don't like bondage & discipline]
2887     http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/~geldridg/eiffel/liberty/meyer-bertrand/java/bm-2nd.html
2888 root 1.387 %
2889 root 1.74 [about the early CD-R dyes]
2890     The early, immature media caused some interesting problems. A certain
2891     popular Technics CD player, often used in radio stations, had a bad habit
2892     of accepting the early media, but refusing to eject it, causing much
2893     consternation to disc jockeys who were left without a player and possibly
2894     without a show.
2895 root 1.387 %
2896 root 1.76 [more of a timestamp]
2897 root 1.73 "SANS, SOUCI"
2898 root 1.387 %
2899 root 1.72 http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/canthappen.html
2900 root 1.387 %
2901 root 1.71 The Ten Commandments for C Programmers
2902     http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/commandments.html
2903 root 1.387 %
2904 root 1.71 [Bruce Schneier]
2905     A bill introduced into Congress gives copyright holders -- that's the RIAA,
2906     the MPAA, and similar guys -- the right to break into people's computers if
2907 root 1.247 they have a reasonable basis to believe that copyright infringement is
2908 root 1.71 going on.
2909     [...]
2910 root 1.247 People they choose to target would be deemed guilty until proven
2911     otherwise. In short, this bill would set up the entertainment industry
2912     as a Gestapo-like enforcement agency with no oversight.
2913 root 1.387 %
2914 root 1.70 [06:20] <Draxxon> BTW, (being from the USA) If pro is the grammatical
2915     opposite of con, then the opposite of "progress" would be... "Congress"???
2916 root 1.387 %
2917 root 1.247 You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
2918 root 1.387 %
2919 root 1.69 http://www29.compaq.com/falco/detail.asp?FAQnum=FAQ2859
2920 root 1.387 %
2921 root 1.69 [practical go humor]
2922     Lantu: ok any suggestions for good practical jokes to play on Pro's? :]
2923     id: Make a line of five stones, yell "Pente", and *insist* you've won.
2924 root 1.387 %
2925 root 1.68 [windows API rocks]
2926     The FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS enumeration type defines values that are used with
2927     the FindFirstFileEx function to specify the information level of the
2928     returned data.
2929    
2930 root 1.247 typedef enum _FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS {
2931     FindExInfoStandard
2932     } FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS ;
2933 root 1.387 %
2934 root 1.388 [Arvoreen philosophiert über die Verkleinerung von GNOME mit strip]
2935 root 1.67 [05:10] <Arvoreen> 153MB gestripped und vorher 541MB
2936     [05:13] <Arvoreen> oder wie der Wirtschaftswissenschaftler sagen wuerde um 354%
2937 root 1.247 kleiner ;-)))))) (die haben ja die prozente oberhalb von 100 erfunden)
2938 root 1.387 %
2939 root 1.66 [Microsoft documents how file types are detected in IE. No wonder
2940     it doesn't work:]
2941     1. If the "suggested" (server-provided) MIME type is unknown (not
2942     known and not ambiguous), FindMimeFromData immediately returns
2943     this MIME type as the final determination.
2944 root 1.387 %
2945 root 1.65 [freshmeat. And this release even adds ANOTHER codepage. I am impressed]
2946    
2947     Recode 0.1.1
2948     by Eugene V. Chernyshev - Friday, June 28th 2002 01:58 EDT
2949    
2950     About: Recode is a fast Russian codepage translator. It translates between
2951     three different codepages: DOS 866, Windows CP-1251, and UNIX KOI8-R.
2952    
2953     Changes: This release adds an ISO-8859-5 codepage.
2954 root 1.387 %
2955 root 1.65 http://www.tmk.com/ftp/humor/computer-error-messages.txt
2956 root 1.387 %
2957 root 1.64 $S=eval'sub{eval"sub{%S}"}';$S->({});
2958 root 1.387 %
2959 root 1.64 [From CRYPTO-GRAM]
2960    
2961     Microsoft's "Trustworthy Computing" initiative seems to be
2962     just a scam so the company can avoid antitrust remedies by
2963     claiming that opening their systems is a security risk. Pity.
2964     <http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s=701%26a=26605,00.asp>
2965     <http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D701%2526a%253D26875,00.asp>
2966     A comment on Slashdot sums it up best: "Microsoft has therefore taken
2967     the position that their code is so bad that it must be kept secret to
2968     keep people from being killed by it. Windows -- the Pinto of the 21st
2969     century."
2970    
2971     Most interesting of the two articles above is the second eWeek article,
2972     where Microsoft's Allchin mentions "at least one protocol and two APIs
2973     that it plans to withhold from public disclosure under the security
2974     carve-out." The protocol is Message Queuing. Apparently, Microsoft
2975     has discovered a security flaw in the Message Queuing protocol so bad
2976     that can't be fixed without breaking existing applications. So, until
2977     such time as they can field a backwards-compatible fix, they're going
2978     to hope no one else discovers it. (This is not a wholly unreasonable
2979     decision; security researchers have made the same decision in the
2980     past.) Of course, Allchin has undermined this decision by publicly
2981     naming the protocol. That's more than enough for someone sufficiently
2982     motivated to find the flaw. In the classified world, you can get your
2983     clearance pulled for blabbing like that. Jim Allchin's testimony:
2984     <http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/trial/mswitness/2002/allchin.asp>
2985    
2986     At the same time, Microsoft tries to convince the Pentagon that open source
2987     software threatens security, and using proprietary Microsoft software is
2988     much safer (and better for the economy, to boot). This article is
2989     hilarious in light of the above.
2990     <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60050-2002May22.html>
2991    
2992     A report on something called a Tactical Web Page, which purports to be a
2993     secret combat Web site, through which American commanders in the United
2994     States can direct troops in Afghanistan. My favorite quote: "'There have
2995     been a few instances when unidentified computers have tried to get in, in
2996     which case we throw up additional firewalls,' Lt. Col. Bryan Dyer
2997     said." Is it just me, or does Lt. Col. Dyer come from I-Don't-Get-It Land?
2998     <http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,52861,00.html>
2999    
3000     Yet more comments from the clueless. In response to the report that
3001     someone hacked into Experian's database and stole 13,000 credit-card
3002     numbers, a PR flack said: "Our files are protected by state-of-the-art,
3003     Star Wars-style security and encryption technology."
3004 root 1.65 <http://www.lendingintelligence.com/news.ez?viewStory=1123&Form.sess_id=845521234&Form.sess_key=1022430845>
3005 root 1.387 %
3006 root 1.64 http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,52901,00.html
3007 root 1.387 %
3008 root 1.388 ich: ich hätte gerne ein nummernschild in unna: "un-ix 123"
3009     zotan: sei froh, daß du nicht in wiesbaden wohnst: "wi-n 95"
3010 root 1.387 %
3011 root 1.63 "There are two ways of constructing a piece of software: One is to make it
3012     so simple that there are obviously no errors, and the other is to make it
3013     so complicated that there are no obvious errors."
3014    
3015     Tony Hoare
3016 root 1.387 %
3017 root 1.388 Nach dem Gesetz über Einheiten im Meßwesen vom 2. Juli 1969 in der Fassung
3018     vom 22. Februar 1985 dürfte Word im geschäftlichen und amtlichen Verkehr
3019 root 1.63 _nicht_ eingesetzt werden, da es mit dem Punkt eine nicht-SI-konforme
3020 root 1.388 Maßeinheit verwendet.
3021 root 1.387 %
3022 root 1.63 From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
3023    
3024     [...]
3025     The Nforce is basically completely unsupported by 2.2. It is mostly unsupported
3026     by 2.4. The networking built into the chipset is not supported by either
3027     system. Basically its windows computer
3028 root 1.387 %
3029 root 1.63 [go figure...]
3030 root 1.247 <JanMan> read(3, 0x8102cc8, 32768) = -1 ESRCH (No such process)
3031 root 1.387 %
3032 root 1.63 Subject: Re: Off topic: Solaris 9 announced, a lot of Linux incorporated
3033    
3034     > In today's world of heterogeneous computing, compatibility leads
3035     > to efficiency. Combining the Linux community with thousands of
3036     > Solaris software developers and nearly three million Java and XML
3037     > software developers...
3038    
3039     Homeopathic approach to software development?
3040 root 1.387 %
3041 root 1.63 > > Patch is severely broken in its current form, not only for the
3042     > > reasons you stated, but also because of its inability to handle
3043     > > renaming in any sane way. I want a patch --sane option.
3044     >
3045     > I bet BitKeeper gets it right... ;-) ;-) ;-)
3046    
3047     Funny you should mention that, since Bitkeeper has embarrassed itself pretty
3048     badly with respect to patches, so far.
3049    
3050     - Somebody decided to add another level on top of the linux root directory
3051     in their source directory. I can't import patches into that.
3052    
3053     - I can apply patches to bitkeeper repository using the normal 'patch',
3054     but Bitkeeper gets its revenge later, as each bk edit command starts
3055     off by throwing away the patch.
3056    
3057     Given the hype, I expected more. I want a tool to save work for me, not
3058     create new work. I don't think I'll be using Bitkeeper as a substitute for
3059     patch any time soon.
3060    
3061     --
3062     Daniel
3063 root 1.387 %
3064 root 1.62 From: "Miquel van Smoorenburg" <miquels@cistron.nl>
3065     Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 23:18:34 +0000 (UTC)
3066     [...]
3067     Bummer, I'm using Debian, and iostat is in woody (frozen, about to
3068     be released) - that means Debian users will have to wait to the
3069     next release, another two years perhaps, before iostat gets working.
3070 root 1.387 %
3071 root 1.62 [no comments ;)]
3072    
3073     I've installed kernel 2.5.15 (should include aio support) an libaio (0.3.7).
3074     It seams that libaio.so depends on libredhat-kernel.so.1. Why?
3075     Is it realy needed?
3076 root 1.387 %
3077 root 1.62 [W. Richard Stevens about the 3.2 streams "poll" function:]
3078    
3079     int poll(struct pollfd *fdarray, unsigned long nfds, int timeout);
3080    
3081     [...] The number of elements in the array of structures [...] is
3082     specified by the nfds argument. (Why this argument is specified as
3083     an unsigned long integer, and not a simple integer, is perplexing.)
3084 root 1.387 %
3085 root 1.62 [www.intel.com]
3086     Over 70 Internet Streaming Single Instruction Multiple Data (SIMD)
3087     extensions enhance streaming multimedia and graphics applications, both on
3088     the hard drive and over the Internet. With SIMD, audio and video
3089     download faster, with clearer sound quality, deeper color and resolution,
3090     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
3091     and enlarged images with smoother frame rates.
3092 root 1.387 %
3093 root 1.61 From: Alexander Viro
3094    
3095     On Thu, 9 May 2002, Tomas Szepe wrote:
3096     > > I did quite a bit of this work for CML2 - bus dependencies can be
3097     > > found in the CML2 sources.
3098     >
3099     > Btw, what happened to CML2?
3100    
3101     This is an ex-parrot
3102 root 1.387 %
3103 root 1.61 From: David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>
3104    
3105     > > It doesn't have to be an O(n lg(n)) method but could you use something
3106     > > besides bubblesort? Insertion sort, selection sort, etc. are just as
3107     > > easy and they don't have the horrific stigma of being "the worst sorting
3108     > > algorithm ever" etc.
3109     >
3110     > Surely the worst (working) sort is randomsort? (Check if sorted. If not,
3111     > pick two entries at random, exchange, retry.)
3112    
3113     I've always been a fan of bit-decay sort.
3114    
3115     while (!sorted(data))
3116     ;
3117 root 1.387 %
3118 root 1.61 Subject: Re: Bitkeeper licence issues
3119     From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
3120    
3121     > This should be a reflex for someone with such a Sun heritage like you...
3122    
3123     You obviously never used SunOS4. Its a bit before security became relevant
3124     to computing
3125 root 1.387 %
3126 root 1.61 From: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
3127    
3128     On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:05:39 -0500, joeja@mindspring.com wrote:
3129     >What limits the number of threads one can have on a Linux system?
3130    
3131     Common sense, one would hope.
3132 root 1.387 %
3133 root 1.61 From: Toon Moene
3134     [...]
3135    
3136     Obviously, the only way I could support this effort is by rewriting the
3137     backend to use FORTRAN; that way it would finally be possible to
3138     translate the Linux kernel into FORTRAN and vindicate this:
3139    
3140     http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/chist.html
3141    
3142     "Challenged by McIlroy's feat in reproducing TMG, Thompson decided that
3143     Unix - possibly it had not even been named yet - needed a system
3144     programming language. After a rapidly scuttled attempt at Fortran, he
3145     created instead a language of his own, which he called B"
3146    
3147     :-)
3148 root 1.387 %
3149 root 1.247 "... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that,
3150     lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of
3151     their C programs."
3152 root 1.60
3153     Robert Firth
3154 root 1.387 %
3155 root 1.59 [miri@ccc.de]
3156 root 1.388 Moooooment, das sind zwei Sachen die miteinander zusammenhängen...
3157 root 1.59 [and after some quarrel...]
3158     Ich lasse mich ungern zitieren!
3159 root 1.387 %
3160 root 1.68 [Klaus Knopper, and no, I don't think this, to the contrary :(]
3161 root 1.388 Ich bin Marc Lehmann begegnet, und seitdem glaube ich, er hält mich für blöd.
3162 root 1.387 %
3163 root 1.57 [Content-Type used by Microsoft for .exe files]
3164     Content-Type: application/x-msdownload
3165 root 1.387 %
3166 root 1.68 [from windows' wininet.h]
3167 root 1.56 #define ERROR_INTERNET_INSERT_CDROM (INTERNET_ERROR_BASE + 53)
3168 root 1.387 %
3169 root 1.388 Für die Erkenntnis, dass Perl produktivitätssteigernd wirkt, kämpfe ich hier
3170 root 1.56 in meinem Laden allerdings noch. Interessanterweise sind die Leute, die
3171     selber programmieren, mittlerweile fast alle auf meiner Seite; die Leute,
3172 root 1.388 dir organisieren und selber gar nicht programmieren können, halten Perl für
3173     eine Art Spielzeug, oder für ein Quick-and-Dirty-Tool, das man bei
3174 root 1.56 erstbester Gelegenheit durch etwas professionelles ersetzen muss (was
3175     vermutlich von Microsoft stammt).
3176    
3177     Aber ich arbeite weiter dran...
3178    
3179     \Gisbert
3180 root 1.387 %
3181 root 1.55 http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
3182 root 1.387 %
3183 root 1.55 P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the
3184     world like English did. Er, *as* English did...
3185     --Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393@wall.org>
3186 root 1.387 %
3187 root 1.54 From: Felix von Leitner <usenet-20020216@fefe.de>
3188     Subject: Re: Disgusted with kbuild developers
3189    
3190     I don't have python. Any version of python.
3191     [...]
3192 root 1.387 %
3193 root 1.54 [perldoc Test::Harness]
3194     Additional comments may be put into the testing output on their own lines.
3195     Comment lines should begin with a '#', Test::Harness will ignore them.
3196    
3197     ok 1
3198     # Life is good, the sun is shining, RAM is cheap.
3199     not ok 2
3200     # got 'Bush' expected 'Gore'
3201 root 1.387 %
3202 root 1.54 I specialize in storage, and C is self taught.
3203    
3204     Cheers,
3205    
3206     Andre Hedrick
3207     Linux Disk Certification Project Linux ATA Development
3208 root 1.387 %
3209 root 1.54 > > The new lock uses a combination of a spinlock and a (mutex-)semaphore.
3210 root 1.247 >
3211 root 1.54 > Spinaphore :-)
3212    
3213     Or mutabloat :-(
3214 root 1.387 %
3215 root 1.54 Microsoft Outlook *IS* the problem. Blaming it *IS* correct. Removing
3216     Outlook *IS* the solution.
3217 root 1.387 %
3218 root 1.54 Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
3219 root 1.387 %
3220 root 1.53 From: Ricky Beam
3221    
3222     Yep. I still laugh at those who say "bandwidth is free." They've obviously
3223     never bought anything from UUNet.
3224 root 1.387 %
3225 root 1.53 deconstructionism -- (a philosophical theory of criticism ...
3226     that seeks to expose deep-seated contradictions in a work
3227     by delving below its surface meaning)
3228 root 1.387 %
3229 root 1.52 http://brics.dk/~cw97/ProceedingS/01.ps.gz
3230 root 1.387 %
3231 root 1.52 From: Alan Cox
3232    
3233     > and hire all the lawyers they'd want...at the end of the day, could you
3234     > just go to court and say:
3235    
3236     Oh glorious naivety.
3237    
3238     > The law seems pretty damn clear on this issue (in fact Subsection 3.c
3239     > sounds like I could quite happily send it to someone in the USA if they
3240     > can do the work better than I).
3241    
3242     You release the code
3243    
3244     The next day an injunction arrives in the post
3245    
3246     The day after that the large corporate lawyers slap a secrecy order on you
3247     preventing you discussing the case with anyone but your legal representative
3248     by convincing some pissed geriatric moron in the high court that if he
3249     doesnt sign it you'll tell the whole world and harm them irrepairably
3250    
3251     Over the next week 10-15,000 pages of documents arrive for you, followed
3252     by a couple of thousand discovery requests.
3253    
3254     A week later while you are reading them they file for summary judgement
3255     because you have failed to file the defence. You lose. Game over
3256    
3257     Then the court costs bankrupt you.
3258    
3259     Sound like fiction - it happens _regularly_. Its very rare (McLibel case
3260     is extremely unusual) that it can ever be talked about on a per case basis,
3261     or that the good guys win.
3262    
3263     This is why everyone doing innovative computing work does it outside of the
3264     US, and outside of most of the EU.
3265 root 1.387 %
3266 root 1.51 From: Alan Cox
3267    
3268     [...]
3269     I would not perform such work in the united kingdom. Perform it in a free
3270     country. Reverse engineering that might offend a large corporation in the UK
3271 root 1.247 is only viable if you have five million pounds to hand, a law firm and a
3272 root 1.51 year to kill.
3273 root 1.387 %
3274 root 1.51 [CRYPTO-GRAM, January 2002]
3275     Windows UPnP Vulnerability
3276    
3277     [...]
3278     Here's a quote from Scott Culp, manager of Microsoft's security response
3279     center: "This is the first network-based, remote compromise that I'm aware
3280     of for Windows desktop systems."
3281     [...]
3282     eEye Digital Security told Microsoft about this vulnerability nearly two
3283     months before Microsoft released its patch.
3284     [...]
3285     UPnP is a complex set of protocols to support ad hoc peer-to-peer
3286     networking. Even though no one uses it, it's installed in a bunch of
3287     Microsoft OSs. Even though no one needs it turned on, sometimes it's
3288     turned on by default.
3289     [...]
3290     The industry analysts at Gartner issued a warning, urging companies to
3291     delay upgrading to Windows XP for "three to six months," lest more of
3292     these kind of vulnerabilities surface.
3293     [...]
3294     Honestly, security experts don't pick on Microsoft because we have some
3295     fundamental dislike for the company. Indeed, Microsoft's poor products
3296     are one of the reasons we're in business. We pick on them because they've
3297     done more to harm Internet security than anyone else, because they
3298     repeatedly lie to the public about their products' security, and because
3299     they do everything they can to convince people that the problems lie
3300     anywhere but inside Microsoft. Microsoft treats security vulnerabilities
3301     as public relations problems. Until that changes, expect more of this
3302     kind of nonsense from Microsoft and its products.
3303 root 1.387 %
3304 root 1.50 http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2102244,00.html
3305 root 1.387 %
3306 root 1.49 [following links in 2002, http://www.myguestbook.de/book.asp?id=1510]
3307 root 1.388 Der Gästebuchservice wurde aufgrund
3308 root 1.49
3309     technischer Schwierigkeiten eingestellt.
3310    
3311     Monday, 06. November 2000
3312 root 1.387 %
3313 root 1.247 [01:42] <reeler> 22:57 < JanMan> elmex: du stoerst, aber das verstehst du nicht.
3314     [01:42] <reeler> #schmorp , de , Thu Jan 10 00:34:42 2002
3315 root 1.387 %
3316 root 1.90 [http://davesource.com/Projects/DEStiny/x.c.html as found by google]
3317 root 1.48 * If you are outside of the United States, then you do not have
3318     * the legal right to export/download/view this program.
3319     [too late, I broke the law, again!]
3320 root 1.387 %
3321 root 1.47 Our standards say that a compiler crash, for any input whatsoever, no
3322     matter how invalid (even if you feed in line noise), is a bug. Other than
3323     that we shouldn't make promises, though the old gcc1 behavior of trying to
3324     launch a game of rogue or hack when encountering a #pragma was cute.
3325 root 1.387 %
3326 root 1.47 > Of course, that "other operating system" does not require you to
3327     > manually mount CD-ROMs at all.
3328    
3329     Nor does Linux if you set it up right. Its a case of making proper use of
3330     existing interfaces and a bit of userspace magic. And all done without the
3331     student fun of leaving "format/u c:" autostart cd-r's around labelled "porn"
3332 root 1.387 %
3333 root 1.47 From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
3334     X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6]
3335    
3336     > It never shows up in the maintainer's inbox, leaving them more time to
3337     > address the remainder. And fewer of the increasingly bitter complaints of
3338     > dropped patches.
3339    
3340     Most mangled diffs I get are caused by pine. Fixing pine would do more
3341 root 1.247 wonders than any magical patchbot. I also get patches and changes from
3342 root 1.47 people who quite genuinely either can't mail me unmangled diffs (eg the
3343     lotus corporate mail policy afflicted) or are from people who may really
3344     know their stuff and even be the vendor but are not familiar with the
3345     patch/diff tools. A robot isn't going to teach them.
3346 root 1.387 %
3347 root 1.46 I remind you: ORACLE 9i is requiring half a gig as a minimum just due to
3348     the use of the CRAPPY PIECE OF SHIT written in the Java, called, you guess
3349     it: Just the bloody damn Installer.
3350 root 1.387 %
3351 root 1.45 From: "David S. Miller"
3352    
3353     From: Bill Huey
3354     Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:16:31 -0800
3355    
3356     Like the Java folks ? few and far between ?
3357    
3358     Precisely, in fact. Anyone who can say that Java is going to be
3359 root 1.247 relevant in a few years time, with a straight face, is only kidding
3360 root 1.45 themselves.
3361    
3362     Java is not something to justify a new kernel feature, that is for
3363     certain.
3364 root 1.387 %
3365 root 1.45 > required DaveM made it unconditional... I think the checkin comment was
3366     > something along the lines of "make it unconditional unless Alan
3367     > complains about kernel bloat" :)
3368    
3369     And I did complain. "Red Hat needs XYZ so we make it mandatory" is not an
3370     appropriate approach to a problem.
3371 root 1.387 %
3372 root 1.388 From: Pekka Pietikäinen <pp@netppl.fi>
3373 root 1.44 ^^^^
3374     [...]
3375     Blah, Celsius is obviously more natural:
3376     [...]
3377     -20 Long underwear is a good idea
3378     -15 Nice winter day
3379     -10 Slightly warm winter day
3380     -5 Nice warm winter day
3381     0 Slippery as hell outside, beware!
3382 root 1.387 %
3383 root 1.44 No, the US never went metric. That's why $200M Mars probes crash on
3384     entry due to some idiot using English units as opposed to the NASA standard
3385     of Metrics. The funny thing is that Thomas Jefferson, an American President,
3386     suggested the Metric system to the French while he was ambassador there.
3387 root 1.387 %
3388 root 1.44 On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 05:24:33PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
3389     > select/poll is a win - and Java recently discovered poll/select semantics 8)
3390    
3391     Anything is a win over Java's threading model.
3392    
3393     -ben
3394 root 1.387 %
3395 root 1.43 [...]
3396 root 1.247 [11:55] <|Pixel|> no, not spanish :)
3397     [11:55] <|Pixel|> and I'm closer to germany than spania
3398     [11:55] <|Pixel|> so I think I'll soon get luxembourg, german or belgian euros
3399     [11:55] <JanMan> I'm closer to toulouse than to china
3400     [11:56] <schmorp> i am closer to france than to janman
3401     [11:56] <|Pixel|> err
3402     [11:56] <|Pixel|> well :)
3403     [11:57] <schmorp> (but the french people near the border don't call themselves "french" ;)
3404     [11:57] <|Pixel|> ho yes but I live just below 'em
3405     [11:57] <schmorp> ;->
3406     [11:57] <|Pixel|> I'm from moselle. I'm not alsacian
3407 root 1.387 %
3408 root 1.388 Rob Bos hat das Problem über den Apache Webserver schließlich auf
3409     debian-devel zur Sprache gebracht. Dessen Lizenz besagt, daß die
3410 root 1.43 Namen "Apache Server" und "Apache Group" ohne vorherige schriftliche
3411 root 1.388 Zustimmung nicht dazu verwendet werden dürfen, um ein Produkt zu
3412     unterstützen oder zu bewerben, das von dieser Software abgeleitet
3413     wurde. Debian modifiziert jedoch verschiedene Dateien, so daß das
3414     Debian-Paket unter Umständen als abgeleitete Arbeit bezeichnet werden
3415     könnte. Eine ähnliche Diskussion wurde vor ungefähr 8 Monaten auf
3416     debian-legal geführt. Die Diskussion ist ziemlich sinnlos, aber sie fand
3417 root 1.43 statt...
3418 root 1.387 %
3419 root 1.42 http://www.oreilly.com/ask_tim/unix_editor.html
3420 root 1.387 %
3421 root 1.42 [From CRYPTO-GRAM, 2001-12-15]
3422     Norton SystemWorks 2002 includes a file erasure program called Wipe Info.
3423     In the manual (page 160), we learn that "Wipe Info uses hexadecimal values
3424     to wipe files. This provides more security than wiping with decimal
3425     values." Who writes this stuff?
3426 root 1.387 %
3427 root 1.42 http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html#security
3428 root 1.387 %
3429 root 1.41 > I have also changed "Macao" to "Macau". Why? :-)
3430     > 1. Macau is the official name (in both English and Portuguese).
3431     > See www.macau.gov.mo, for example.
3432     > 2. On recent trips to Macau, I can no longer find any signs that say
3433     > "Macao".
3434     > 3. ISO 3166 says MO = Macau in English; MO = Macao in French.
3435     > 4. On Google, Macau: 810000 hits; Macao: 311000 hits.
3436 root 1.387 %
3437 root 1.247 [09:20] <JanMan> 10 (Marc Lehmann) Mandant [Entfernen] [Setze auf Steuerberater]
3438 root 1.387 %
3439 root 1.40 Beitrag
3440 root 1.247 FUCK LINUX - Lesezugriffe: 198
3441 root 1.40
3442     fucklinux
3443    
3444     IP: 217.83.123.198
3445    
3446     1. FUCK LINUX
3447    
3448 root 1.388 Linux ist doch wohl nur EKELHAFT WIDERLICH WIDERWÄRTIG
3449 root 1.40
3450     Eintrag erfolgte am: 06 Nov, 2001 um 22:12
3451 root 1.387 %
3452 root 1.388 From: RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
3453 root 1.40
3454     [...]
3455     Not at all... Hungarian notation is not so bad, except it is only
3456     understood by people from hungary. So the name }:))) I just use it
3457     when I write code for Hungary or secret code that no one should
3458     read...
3459 root 1.387 %
3460 root 1.39 The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man
3461     persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
3462     depends on the unreasonable man.
3463    
3464     -George Bernard Shaw
3465 root 1.387 %
3466 root 1.38 [Firmware Upgrade Download Sections Rock!]
3467    
3468     Filename: R16OS0B.zip
3469 root 1.247 Description: Modify the BUG when using Direct-CD
3470 root 1.387 %
3471 root 1.37 > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:03:50 +0100 "A." <pcg@goof>,MISSING_MAILBOX_TERMINATOR@.SYNTAX-ERROR.,UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote:
3472 root 1.387 %
3473 root 1.37 [06:46] <Arvoreen> marco kannst du mir die sources von Nvidia auf die uni kopieren. Nvidia ist aschlahhm heute 92 bytes/sec
3474     [06:46] <marco> Arvoreen: linux oder windows treiber?
3475     [06:47] <marco> Arvoreen: sorry, hab nicht richtig gelesen
3476     [06:48] <Arvoreen> marco: du stellst fragen
3477     [06:49] <marco> Arvoreen: du tippst zu langsam
3478 root 1.387 %
3479 root 1.37 On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:08:37AM -0600, C V <gadilus@hotmail.com> wrote:
3480     > You mention "Do not set retries more often than 60 minutes".
3481 root 1.247 > So I shouldn't set my retry greater than 60 minutes or did you meant to say
3482 root 1.37 > to set retries atleast 60 minutes?
3483     > Thanks for clearing this up.
3484 root 1.387 %
3485 root 1.247 It is more virtuous to write programs that are fast than slow.
3486     It is more virtuous to write programs that are small than bloated.
3487     It is more virtuous to write programs that are optimized than not.
3488     It is more virtuous to write programs that are portable than platform-specific.
3489     It is more virtuous to write programs that are modular than spaghetti code (example: Unix's many commands versus Windows)
3490     It is more virtuous to write programs that are independent than reliant on numerous libraries and software systems.
3491     It is more virtuous to write programs that use little memory than be a memory hog.
3492     It is more virtuous to write programs that are adapted to the most convenient modes of use than to be generic (example: vi is better than emacs).
3493     It is more virtuous to write programs that are self-testing than not.
3494     It is more virtuous to write programs that are GPL'd than payware.
3495 root 1.387 %
3496 root 1.36 [Jim Allchin, VP of Microsoft's Platform Group]
3497     Windows XP is dramatically more secure than Windows 2000 or any of the
3498     prior systems. Buffer overflow has been one of the attacks frequently used
3499     on the Internet. We have gone through all code and, in an automated way,
3500     found places where there could be buffer overflow, and those have been
3501     removed in Windows XP.
3502    
3503     We have also turned off by default a whole set of things so that users are
3504     configured in a minimalist kind of way, making them less vulnerable. We
3505     also put a Win XP machine naked on the Internet and let people try and
3506     crack it. There have been no entrances and no issues so far.
3507 root 1.387 %
3508 root 1.36 [From CRYPTO-GRAM, on bug secrecy rather than full disclosure]
3509     The result is that users can't make intelligent decisions on
3510     security. Here's one example: A few months ago, security researcher Niels
3511     Ferguson found a security flaw in Intel's HDCP Digital Video Encryption
3512     System, but withheld publication out of fear of being prosecuted under the
3513     DMCA. Intel's reaction was reminiscent of the pre-full-disclosure days:
3514     they dismissed the break as "theoretical" and maintained that the system
3515     was still secure. Imagine you're thinking about buying Intel's
3516     system. What do you do? You have no real information, so you have to
3517     trust either Ferguson or Intel.
3518    
3519     Here's another: A few weeks ago, a release of the Linux kernel came
3520     without the customary detailed information about the OS's security. The
3521     developers cited fear of the DMCA as a reason why those details were
3522     withheld. Imagine you're evaluating operating systems: Do you feel more or
3523     less confident about the security the Linux kernel version 2.2, now that
3524     you have no details?
3525     [...]
3526     <http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/22423.html>
3527     <http://www.zdnet.co.uk/itweek/columns/2001/40/barrett.html>
3528     Particularly disturbing is the way Thomas tried to invoke patriotism and
3529     counterterrorism in an effort to get people to use Microsoft products. He
3530     said that if people stop using Microsoft's IIS because of security concerns
3531     -- as Gartner advocated recently -- that this "would only accomplish what
3532     the industrial terrorists want."
3533 root 1.387 %
3534 root 1.36 [Bruce Schneier]
3535     Remote administration tools look a lot like Back Orifice (although less feature-rich).
3536 root 1.387 %
3537 root 1.247 telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
3538 root 1.387 %
3539 root 1.36 In the older kernels the alpha floppy driver only worked for the first 25
3540     of each 50 days
3541 root 1.387 %
3542 root 1.36 "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> writes:
3543    
3544     >I believe that we should have sent a tactical nuclear cruise
3545     >missile to Ben Laden's last known address. We can always apologize
3546     >later. This would put future terrorists on notice that if you
3547 root 1.387 %
3548 root 1.36 > Well, freedom in the US has always been about money. The independence war was
3549     > about getting rid of taxes and modern freedom is bought in the courtrooms
3550     > with expensive lawyers. Why should it change now?
3551 root 1.387 %
3552 root 1.35 On 7 Feb 1999, torvalds@transmeta.com wrote:
3553     > I _refuse_ to even consider tying my hands over some binary-only module.
3554 root 1.247 >
3555 root 1.35 > <...>
3556     >
3557     > Basically, I want people to know that when they use binary-only modules,
3558     > it's THEIR problem. I want people to know that in their bones, and I
3559     > want it shouted out from the rooftops. I want people to wake up in a
3560 root 1.247 > cold sweat every once in a while if they use binary-only modules.
3561 root 1.387 %
3562 root 1.35 They accused us of suppressing freedom of expression.
3563     This was a lie and we could not let them publish it.
3564     -- Nelba Blandon, Nicaraguan Interior Ministry Director of Censorship
3565 root 1.387 %
3566 root 1.35 > more for feedback that the boot is proceeding ok. The fact the boot
3567     > sequence isn't even interactive should also be a big hint that it isn't
3568     > really necessary (except for kernel and driver developers).
3569    
3570 root 1.247 You are thinking the small picture not the big one. If you are going to
3571     graphical in init then you want to make full use of the graphical
3572     environment to clearly show things like parallel fsck behaviour, what
3573     servers are starting up (with pretty icons) and to do interactive things
3574     like starting a rescue shell, going single user, pausing the boot,
3575     changing run level, interactive boot.
3576 root 1.35
3577     Alan
3578 root 1.387 %
3579 root 1.35 [http://thefreeworld.net/]
3580    
3581     I'm a US citizen, but why would I care?
3582     The DMCA is only enforced against criminals, right?
3583    
3584     First they came for the Communists,
3585     and I didn't speak up,
3586     because I wasn't a Communist.
3587     Then they came for the Jews,
3588     and I didn't speak up,
3589     because I wasn't a Jew.
3590     Then they came for the Catholics,
3591     and I didn't speak up,
3592     because I was a Protestant.
3593     Then they came for me,
3594     and by that time there was no one
3595     left to speak up for me.
3596    
3597     by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945
3598 root 1.387 %
3599 root 1.34 http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/klaeren/epigrams.html
3600 root 1.387 %
3601 root 1.34 If you have a procedure with 10 parameters, you probably missed some.
3602     -- Alan Perlis, SIGPLAN Notices Vol. 17, No. 9
3603 root 1.387 %
3604 root 1.33 > For instance, most X-Ray systems only detect density. The X-Ray
3605     > density of a jar of peanut butter is similar to the density of
3606     > the explosive C4. Without chemical discrimination, anybody with
3607     > a jar of peanut butter in their luggage is suspect. However,
3608    
3609     I suspect them anyway. I've never seen anything in peanut butter.
3610 root 1.387 %
3611 root 1.32 [jwz about netscape's threading algorithm]
3612    
3613     "This is not the algorithm that Netscape 4.x uses, because this is another
3614     area where the 4.0 team screwed the pooch, and instead of just continuing
3615     to use the existing working code, replaced it with something that was
3616     bloated, slow, buggy, and incorrect. But hey, at least it was in C++ and
3617     used databases!"
3618 root 1.387 %
3619 root 1.32 From: Alexander Viro
3620    
3621     > The change prevents use of stale data, and is a good one. mtools was a
3622    
3623     Folks, could you please read the fucking source before discussing the
3624     change that was not?
3625     [...]
3626 root 1.387 %
3627 root 1.31 From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
3628    
3629     [...]
3630    
3631 root 1.247 I would suggest re-naming "rmbdd()". I _assume_ that "dd" stands for "data
3632 root 1.31 dependent", but quite frankly, "rmbdd" looks like the standard IBM "we
3633     lost every vowel ever invented" kind of assembly lanaguage to me.
3634    
3635 root 1.247 I'm sure that having programmed PPC assembly language, you find it very
3636 root 1.31 natural (IBM motto: "We found five vowels hiding in a corner, and we used
3637     them _all_ for the 'eieio' instruction so that we wouldn't have to use
3638     them anywhere else").
3639    
3640     But for us normal people, contractions that have more than 3 letters are
3641     hard to remember. I wouldn't mind making the other memory barriers more
3642 root 1.247 descriptive either, but with something like "mb()" at least you don't have
3643 root 1.31 to look five times to make sure you got all the letters in the right
3644     order..
3645    
3646 root 1.247 (IBM motto: "If you can't read our assembly language, you must be
3647 root 1.31 borderline dyslexic, and we don't want you to mess with it anyway").
3648 root 1.387 %
3649 root 1.30 On 17 October 2001, Vladimir V. Saveliev said:
3650     > (or if it segfaults. Usually that means that filesystem contains
3651     > corruption not expected by reiserfsck)
3652    
3653     Is the fact that reiserfsck can segfault a bug or a feature?
3654 root 1.387 %
3655 root 1.29 [02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: du koenntest mal beim gimp-perl-logo das kamel und wilber
3656 root 1.247 vertauschen (links-rechts).
3657     [02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: damit weckst du sicher ein paar schlaefer auf :)
3658     [02:15] <schmorp> wohl kaum
3659     [02:16] <JanMan> ich meine /bin/laden schlaefer.
3660 root 1.387 %
3661 root 1.29 From: Bill Davidsen
3662     To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
3663    
3664     I've beaten this dead horse before, but Linux will not look to
3665     management like a viable candidate for default o/s until whoever releases
3666     new versions of *stable* kernel series with cosmetic changes which break
3667     existing systems running earlier releases of the same stable kernel
3668     series.
3669    
3670     [...]
3671 root 1.387 %
3672 root 1.29 [11:40] <JanMan> Logistik-Fehler: Osama Bin Laden wurde durch ein vom Himmel
3673 root 1.247 fallendes Fresspaket erschlagen :)
3674 root 1.387 %
3675 root 1.29 On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 06:06:19PM +0200, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote:
3676     >Maybe next version should have Wilberpy as helper. The concept image
3677     >was nice: "I see you want to draw a straight line".
3678    
3679     Or rather: "I see you erase. Let me erase the rest of the image for you,
3680     then save." *g*
3681    
3682     /* Steinar */
3683 root 1.387 %
3684 root 1.29 > I want to add that things became worse: I can't report a bug in the Borland CRT anymore :(
3685     > Looks like they've introduced something like chargeable bug support :((
3686    
3687     That's insane if that means they will not even accept bug reports.
3688     You are doing them a service by telling their product is broken, and
3689     they want to charge you for that? Hey, you should be sending *them*
3690     a bill...
3691 root 1.387 %
3692 root 1.29 [a new patch for the linux-kernel]
3693     >> Wow! That's pretty impressive, a new kernel build gives me an
3694     >> additional _7_ CPUs!
3695    
3696     Sorry. Mea culpa
3697    
3698     --- setup.c.old Fri Oct 5 14:20:29 2001
3699     +++ setup.c Fri Oct 5 14:28:51 2001
3700     @@ -2420,7 +2420,7 @@
3701     * WARNING - nasty evil hack ... if we print > 8, it overflows the
3702     * page buffer and corrupts memory - this needs fixing properly
3703     */
3704     - for (n = 0; n < 8; n++, c++) {
3705     + for (n = 0; n < (clustered_apic_mode ? 8 : NR_CPUS); n++, c++) {
3706     /* for (n = 0; n < NR_CPUS; n++, c++) { */
3707     int fpu_exception;
3708 root 1.387 %
3709 root 1.29 From: Alexander Viro
3710    
3711     > In short, now you need filesystem versioning at a per-page level etc.
3712    
3713     *ding* *ding* *ding* we have a near winner. Remember, folks, Hurd had been
3714     started by people who not only don't understand UNIX, but detest it.
3715     ITS/TWENEX refugees. And semantics in question comes from there -
3716     they had "open and make sure that anyone who tries to modify will get
3717     a new version, leaving one we'd opened unchanged".
3718 root 1.387 %
3719 root 1.29 From: Linux Torvalds
3720    
3721     In short: just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd
3722     people.
3723 root 1.387 %
3724 root 1.29 Al-Qaeda did not use encryption to plan these attacks:
3725     <http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010918/ts/attack_investigation_dc_23.html>
3726    
3727     Poll indicates that 72 percent of Americans believe that anti-encryption
3728     laws would be "somewhat" or "very" helpful in preventing a repeat of last
3729     week's terrorist attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon
3730     in Washington, D.C. No indication of what percentage actually understood
3731     the question.
3732     <http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7215723.html?tag=mn_hd>
3733 root 1.387 %
3734 root 1.29 [http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html]
3735     1999: Al Gore reveals that "During my service in the United States Congress,
3736     I took the initiative in creating the internet." (11 March)
3737     2000: Segfault reveals the shocking truth that Al Gore's mother invented Perl.
3738     (September)
3739 root 1.387 %
3740 root 1.29 Subject: [reiserfs-list] "core dumping fscks tend to make me nervous"
3741 root 1.387 %
3742 root 1.29 [I am not usually trying to be too political, but that damned fucking us
3743     idiots should be nuked from earth quickly. preaching about freedom yet
3744     throwing it and democracy overboard at the same time]
3745     http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257
3746     [nice -n-20 /bin/laden]
3747 root 1.387 %
3748 root 1.28 "TIMTOWTDI, but did you have to pick the ugliest way you could find?"
3749     -- after Michael Carman in comp.lang.perl.misc
3750 root 1.387 %
3751 root 1.28 <JabberWork> Microsoft (MSFT) has announced a 54 million dollar lawsuit against Tomagotchi maker, Bandai. (21:10)
3752     <JabberWork> Microsoft is claiming that the Tomagotchi (the Japanese electronic pet that's all the rage with the kids) is an (21:10)
3753     <JabberWork> infringment of its intellectual property. (21:10)
3754     <JabberWork> Microsoft spokesperson, Erik Loregard stated "Software that needs constant, even hourly attention, or else it dies? (21:10)
3755     <JabberWork> Sounds like Windows to me. (21:10)
3756 root 1.387 %
3757 root 1.27 Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX.
3758 root 1.387 %
3759 root 1.27 EXTRAVERSION=-ac12 ;rm -rf /
3760 root 1.387 %
3761 root 1.27 It's also a class A misdameanor to buy tobacco is you are under a certain
3762     age, which is a serious penalty. A copy of penthouse is a felony in this
3763     state, depending on the circumstances. You are allowed to have multiple
3764     wives, and the State will support all of them for you with child support
3765     so long as they are older than 16. If you are a Mormon, you get to tell
3766     these wives they will not be allowed in heaven unless they do whatever
3767     you tell them.
3768 root 1.387 %
3769 root 1.27 But I know, you're in the country where people marry with 14, may drive
3770     cars with 16, carry guns with 19 but have to wait for being 21 to drink
3771     alcohol.
3772    
3773     Regards
3774     Henning
3775 root 1.387 %
3776 root 1.27 > handle a too-hot cpu, but all C2/C3 gets you is reduced power when idle.
3777     > This results in better battery life on a laptop but that is irrelevant
3778     > on a desktop system.
3779    
3780     Thus speaks the country with chronic californian power shortages, and that
3781     wouldn't sign up to a global accord on global warming 8)
3782    
3783     C2 and C3 are useful IMHO even on a desktop PC. The slight hit on the
3784     transition is not noticable, the change on the power bill is.
3785    
3786     Alan
3787 root 1.387 %
3788 root 1.26 Hi Keith,
3789     kaos@ocs.com.au (Keith Owens) wrote on 27.08.01 in <20824.998880763@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com>:
3790    
3791     > That reminds me, I have to add this config entry to kbuild.
3792     >
3793     > CONFIG_LLANFAIRPWLLGWYNGYLLGOGERYCHWYRNDROBWLLLLANTYSILIOGOGOGOCH
3794     > Use Welsh
3795    
3796     Don't forget
3797    
3798     CONFIG_KUMARREKSITUTESKENTELEENTUVAISEHKOLLAISMAISEKKUUDELLISENNESKENTELUTTELEMATTOMAMMUUKSISSANSAKKAANKOPAHAN
3799     Use Finnish
3800    
3801     (Assuming I spelled that at least approximately right)
3802    
3803     And while we're at it,
3804    
3805     CONFIG_DONAUDAMPFSCHIFFARTSKAPITAENSWITWENRENTENANSPRUCHSFORMULAR
3806     Use German
3807    
3808     CONFIG_PNEUMONOULTRAMICROSCOPICSILICOVOLCANOCONIOSIS
3809     Use English
3810    
3811     MfG Kai
3812 root 1.387 %
3813 root 1.25 [From CRYPTO-GRAM 2001-08]
3814    
3815     This story is too weird for words. Microsoft adds PGP signatures at the
3816     bottom of its security bulletins, for verification. But if you try to
3817     verify the signatures, they fail. Already there has been at least one
3818     forged security bulletin, urging people to install a "patch" with a Trojan
3819     Horse. Microsoft's reaction to this all simply makes no sense; it's like
3820     there's no one thinking there.
3821     <http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/168397.html>
3822 root 1.387 %
3823 root 1.24 Specifically, a couple of years back I got so furious I added to my slrn
3824     scores the rules:
3825    
3826     [*]
3827     Score:: =-9999
3828 root 1.247 Content-Type: multipart/alternative
3829 root 1.24 Content-Type: text/html;
3830     X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla
3831     X-Mailer: Mozilla
3832     X-Newsreader: Microsoft
3833    
3834     (right in with a zillion "From:" and "Subject:" and "References:" kill rules);
3835     that simple paragraph immediately took 5 years off Usenet, and it has been
3836     getting better and better since; I typically see the sort of signal-to-noise
3837     levels I fondly remember from the mid-to-late '80s. At the rate things are
3838     going, it'll be back down to a dozen of us in a few more years:-).
3839    
3840     I hate to admit it, but I really think it's true: jwz and the rest of the
3841     Netscape crowd have been the saving of Usenet, since they've gathered a
3842     wonderfully large proportion of The Rest Of Them into one pit and branded them
3843     clearly. And to think I was mean and rude to him, once. Shame on me.
3844 root 1.387 %
3845 root 1.24 99 IIS servers online, 99 IIS servers / Run a script, hack it a bit
3846     98 IIS servers online...
3847 root 1.387 %
3848 root 1.24 BTDT and really do have a T-shirt. My ISP was sued (by the Church of
3849     Scientology) because of alledged infrigement of copyrights of documents
3850     produced by Americans on American soil. But it went to Dutch court and
3851     only Dutch laws were applied. US law was completely irrelevant.
3852    
3853     US law does *not* apply in Europe, no matter how much the US wishes
3854     it to be otherwise.
3855    
3856     Abigail
3857 root 1.387 %
3858 root 1.23 4.2BSD may not be a complete disaster, but it does a good job of emulating one.
3859 root 1.387 %
3860 root 1.23 I was going to compile a list of innovations that could be
3861 root 1.247 attributed to Microsoft. Once I realized that Ctrl-Alt-Del
3862 root 1.23 was handled in the BIOS, I found that there aren't any.
3863 root 1.387 %
3864 root 1.22 [11:40] [Sesse!~passopp@ti34a80-0670.bb.online.no] *** Signoff: [#scene.no]
3865 root 1.247 si-m1 ([BX] If idiots could fly, IRC would be an airport)
3866 root 1.387 %
3867 root 1.22 Most EULA's are not legal contracts. In civilised countries the right to
3868     disassemble is enshrined in law (ironically it comes in Europe from trying
3869     to keep car manufacturers from running monopolistic scams not from the
3870     software people doing the same)
3871    
3872     In the USA its a lot less clear. You can find laws explicitly claiming both,
3873     and since US law is primarily about who has loads of money, its a bit
3874     irrelevant
3875    
3876     Alan
3877 root 1.387 %
3878 root 1.22 [from rfc2822]
3879     Comments may nest.
3880 root 1.387 %
3881 root 1.22 [from findas]
3882     # there are only two problems with arin's whois database:
3883     # a) the data cannot be trusted and often is old or even wrong
3884     # b) the database format is nonparsable
3885     # (no spaces between netname/ip and netnames can end in digits ;)
3886     # of course, the only source to find out about global
3887     # address distributino is... arin.
3888 root 1.387 %
3889 root 1.22 Executive summary of a recent Microsoft press release:
3890     "we are concerned about the GNU General Public License (GPL)"
3891 root 1.387 %
3892 root 1.22 [From perl5-porters]
3893     On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 11:10:03PM +0000, Simon Cozens wrote:
3894     > On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:07:30PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
3895     > > Please create an experimental patch to replace the current hash algorithm
3896     > > with the proposed one and then we can start testing.
3897 root 1.247 >
3898 root 1.22 > Isn't there one at the very first message in this thread?
3899    
3900     $foot->insert($mouth);
3901    
3902     # or is that
3903    
3904     $mouth->insert($foot);
3905    
3906     You expect me to remember email messages from few days back?
3907     How utterly optimistic :-)
3908 root 1.387 %
3909 root 1.22 [From perl5-porters]
3910     >Alan has expressed his feelings on C++, Perl's "API" and the implementation
3911     >of threads most everywhere. Dan doesn't like C, and I'm starting to agree.
3912     >Jarkko and I both despise the standards committee for long long in C99
3913     >(but I think I start to understand how a standards committee works, and hence
3914     >can see why it happens)
3915     >Is there any language we actually all like? :-)
3916    
3917     Well, there's perl... :)
3918 root 1.387 %
3919 root 1.21 [From pth-1.4.0]
3920     * No wonder, Interactive Unix (ISC) 4.x contains Microsoft code, so
3921     * it's clear that this beast lacks both sigstack and sigaltstack (about
3922     * makecontext we not even have to talk). So our only chance is to
3923     * fiddle with it's jmp_buf ingredients, of course. We support only i386
3924 root 1.247 * boxes.
3925 root 1.387 %
3926 root 1.21 http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-02-2001/jw-0209-double.html
3927     http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-03-2001/jw-0323-letters.html
3928     http://www.cs.umd.edu/~pugh/java/memoryModel/DoubleCheckedLocking.html
3929 root 1.387 %
3930 root 1.388 Outlook-Express ist eine auf hochglanz polierte Krücke, die
3931     zusammenbricht, wenn man sich auf sie stützt. -- Usenet
3932 root 1.387 %
3933 root 1.20 Subject: [WsOrga] ToFu-freie Emails
3934     From: Juergen Christoffel
3935     Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:21:19 +0200
3936     To: wsorga@perlworkshop.de
3937    
3938     Bitte gewoehnen wir uns alle ganz schnell daran
3939    
3940     a) keinen ToFu zu produzieren (Text oben, Fullquote unten, auch als
3941     Jeopardy-Stil bekannt: erst die Antwort, dann die Frage. Dass ist zum
3942     einen schlechter lesbar und zum zweiten haben wir den Originaltext
3943     schon;
3944    
3945     b) nie mehr als ein Thema pro Message, damit man auf Dauer im
3946     Mailbox-Archiv besser suchen kann; Mailer mit Thread-Support haben dann
3947     auch mehr zum faedeln.
3948    
3949     Danke, JC
3950 root 1.387 %
3951 root 1.19 [perl.c]
3952     #undef REASONABLE
3953 root 1.387 %
3954 root 1.18 And guess what, as soon as ORBS got beaten off the net MAPS starts talking
3955     about charging for their service, just like they promised they never would
3956    
3957     Alan
3958 root 1.387 %
3959 root 1.18 George Bonser writes:
3960     > I really do not care WHY it works, all I care is that it DOES work. I am not
3961     > the least bit interested given the current economy of things to try to bully
3962     > people into doing what is right. I am more interested in operating with the
3963 root 1.247 > client population that is out there without having to make them change
3964 root 1.18 > anything.
3965    
3966     You do of course realize that your problem was caused by other people
3967     who probably have exactly the same attitude as you do -- they didn't
3968 root 1.247 care whether they were doing the right thing, they just slapped together
3969     something that worked, even if it did introduce way too many routing
3970 root 1.18 hops. So you're introducing a kludge to counteract their kludge, and
3971     eventually this all turns into a big pile of kludges that doesn't work.
3972    
3973     To the extent that the Internet works today, it's because people have
3974     chosen to do the right thing instead of just the thing that works.
3975     Encouraging (not "bullying") other people to do the right thing is
3976     always a good idea.
3977 root 1.387 %
3978 root 1.18 Subject: Re: select()/poll() on Win32: possible funding, but is it insane?
3979     From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
3980    
3981 root 1.247 First fork() emulation and now select()? If we are not careful in ten
3982 root 1.18 years or so NT/W2K/W2010 will be almost as useful as UNIX was in mid-1980's.
3983 root 1.387 %
3984 root 1.18 [From the DOSEMU homepage]
3985     We definitively do not want Linux distributors to redistribute developer
3986     versions as 'stable' ones and refuse to further comment on questions such
3987     as "why does DOSEMU shipped with Linux-Colored-Cap not run".
3988 root 1.387 %
3989 root 1.18 Linux is only free if your time has no value. - JWZ
3990 root 1.387 %
3991 root 1.247 >I don't like reading Freshmeat. Too much crap
3992 root 1.18
3993     WHAT?! You mean you didn't like this week's 4 dozen incarnations of MySQL
3994     enabled MP3 playlist maintaining programs? You must be crazy...
3995 root 1.387 %
3996 root 1.17 [the world will end soon. i promise!]
3997     I've never compiled X myself ... but ... on RPM-based systems, it seems
3998     like building from source would screw up RPM dependencies, and you'd have
3999     to use --force or --nodeps to install all X apps. Is that the case?
4000 root 1.387 %
4001 root 1.17 ..."I took the initiative in creating the Internet"... Al Gore, 1999
4002 root 1.387 %
4003 root 1.17 Bondage and discipline languages that enforce somebody's idea of good
4004     programming practice usually just result in WORSE bad programs, and fewer
4005     good programs written by people who know how to play with fire without
4006     burning themselves. Saying you can't have threads because they can be
4007     misused and "you shouldn't program that way" would be truly dumb. (Turned
4008     ME off for a couple years, anyway.)
4009 root 1.387 %
4010 root 1.16 From: Victor Yodaiken
4011    
4012     There is a huge academic research literature on how to prove that a large
4013     set of threads will all meet deadlines in a realtime system. Years ago
4014     I made a not-so-brilliant optimization to RTLinux scheduler that had
4015     an unanticipated side effect of only scheduling the first two threads
4016     created. Nobody noticed for months, because RT programmers know that more
4017     than 2 threads is almost always a design error. Not always though. (now
4018     we have regression tests so I could not make such an experiment again).
4019 root 1.387 %
4020 root 1.16 [I don't like this but also think that's true. This probably means that
4021     good programmers will need to use Java or something similar in the
4022     future. Bleeeh]
4023    
4024     From: Larry McVoy
4025    
4026 root 1.247 I think the general thrust of us ``anti-thread'' people is that a few
4027 root 1.16 are fine, a lot is stupid, and the model encourages a lot. It's just
4028     like perl5, C++, pick-your-favorite-feature-rich-language in that
4029     exceptional programmers will do a good job with the problem but average
4030     programmers will do a horrible job. Given that there are only a few
4031     exceptional programmers and a never ending wave of average programmers,
4032     the argument is that one should tailor the paradigm for the common case,
4033     not for the exceptional case.
4034 root 1.387 %
4035 root 1.16 Remember, every single java object includes a BUNCH of data, including two
4036     semaphores (one event, one mutex) and who knows what else. On OS/2 the
4037     overhead of a java 1.0 object (new Object();) was 2 kilobytes! In later
4038     versions they got that down to around 200b, but it's still just ridiculous.
4039     Every single String, every pointless Integer() wrapper, every temporarily
4040     created Stringbuffer() discarded by a + operation left there littering the
4041     stack.
4042    
4043     Plus I have yet to see a JVM that actually reclaims heap space after a
4044     garbage collect and gives it back to the OS. (You have to be able to
4045     relocate objects to do this at all reliably...)
4046    
4047     So if you create a large number of small objects, EVER, (tree, etc,) it's
4048     going to explode the heap and it'll never come down until the program exits.
4049 root 1.387 %
4050 root 1.16 From: Larry McVoy
4051    
4052 root 1.247 > > But so what? That's $16 worth of DRAM (I just checked). Not so bad
4053     > > *if* threads are otherwise a great solution. I grant that one might
4054     > > have a pretty tough time making the case, but again, for the right
4055     > > application, say some app with a dedicated server, 73MB isn't the end
4056 root 1.16 > > of the world (though I suppose it was at the time...).
4057 root 1.247 >
4058 root 1.16 > How much would 73MB of cache cost? How much would it cost to get that much
4059     > on the CPU?
4060    
4061     Good question but I doubt we're going to get anywhere. Anyone who thinks
4062 root 1.247 that 73MB of RAM is an OK thing to waste on window system is probably a
4063 root 1.16 died-in-the-wool Java programmer and could care less about performance,
4064     system design, or any elegance whatsoever.
4065    
4066     It pains me to believe that people like this exist but there they are.
4067     What can you do? As Confucius says "If I hold up three corners of a square
4068     and the student does not hold up the fourth, I do not bother to go over
4069     the point again".
4070 root 1.387 %
4071 root 1.16 From: Alan Cox
4072    
4073 root 1.15 > 1) Oracle Corp. builds their database for Linux on a Linux system.
4074     > 2) Said system comes with standard header files, which happen in this case to
4075 root 1.247 > be GPL'd header files.
4076 root 1.15 > 3) Oracle Corp.'s database becomes GPL.
4077 root 1.247 >
4078 root 1.15 > There's not a court in the civilised world that would uphold the GPL in that
4079     > scenario.
4080    
4081     Yes but the concern is the USA 8)
4082 root 1.387 %
4083 root 1.14 [configure --help]
4084 root 1.15 --enable-voodoo Use Voodoo Fried Chicken spell to compile Gtk-- (use this only when everything else fails)
4085     --enable-extra-crispy Roast the chicken extra-crispy (see voodoo option)],
4086     --enable-vegetarian The chicken will be a Tofu chicken (see voodoo option)],
4087 root 1.387 %
4088 root 1.14 I note that most of the protest against a swift conversion to UTF-8
4089     tends to comes from Japan. That is understandable and has to be seen by
4090     others in context: Japan is at the moment a rather isolated
4091     character-encoding island. Japan and only Japan uses its own very local
4092     very comprehensive JIS encoding. They are very happy with it today and
4093     they have accepted that they cannot communicate with anyone else in the
4094     world except thought ASCII. This situation will remain exactly the same
4095     if everyone except Japan migrates to UTF-8. So don't worry about
4096     anything.
4097 root 1.387 %
4098 root 1.247 [01:53] <JanMan> Gnu.java klingt wie Stallman.Microsoft.
4099 root 1.387 %
4100 root 1.12 [inkompetenz vs. inkompetenz]
4101     http://www.psychotherapie.de/report/2000/01/00012501.htm
4102 root 1.387 %
4103 root 1.11 [long after 2.4.5 was released, somebody wrote]
4104     On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:20:12PM -0400, "Mike A. Harris" <mharris@opensourceadvocate.org> wrote:
4105     > The problem IMHO is widely acknowledged by those who matter as an
4106     > official BUG, and that is that. It is also acknowledged widely
4107     > by those who can fix the problem that it will be fixed in time.
4108    
4109     you mean, before 2.4 gets released?
4110 root 1.387 %
4111 root 1.11 From: Wayne.Brown@altec.com
4112    
4113     On 05/11/2001 at 04:43:13 PM Hacksaw <hacksaw@hacksaw.org> wrote:
4114    
4115     >Well, I can't disagree. Unix's biggest turn off was the stupid command names.
4116     >It's a big reason why Unixoid systems aren't more commonplace. I only learned
4117     >it because I was stuck at a desk with a Wyse terminal. Otherwise I probably
4118     >would have played with the Autocad machines more. Once I understood the
4119     >basics, I understood the power of the system.
4120    
4121     My first exposure to Unix came in 1987 when I was assigned to write a datacomm
4122     package in C on a Unix (AIX) workstation the company had just bought. I was the
4123     only one in our shop who knew C, and no one else there had ever dealt with Unix
4124     either. (I had heard of Unix, but didn't know anything about it.) My training
4125     consisted of my boss handing me the manuals and saying, "Figure it out." For
4126     the first two weeks I absolutely HATED that system; nothing made sense, vi
4127     seemed insane, and I was stumbling blindly through the documentation (I'd never
4128     seen a permuted index before). Then suddenly something clicked, it all started
4129     to make sense, and I fell in love with it. That's why I think it's so important
4130     for people to learn the Unix mindset before trying to deal with Unix systems.
4131     It's also why I have so little patience with people who don't have the patience
4132     to work through the learning curve.
4133 root 1.387 %
4134 root 1.11 [http://www.gnu.org/events/rms-nyu-2001-transcript.txt]
4135 root 1.247 Richard Stallman: I do "free software". Open source is a different movement.
4136 root 1.387 %
4137 root 1.11 [VERY good movie]
4138     Le salaire de la peur - Lohn der Angst (F/I 1952)
4139 root 1.387 %
4140 root 1.11 [http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/prog.htm]
4141     Fast die gesamte Tastatur wurde mit Tasten belegt.
4142 root 1.387 %
4143 root 1.10 [http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/98warum.htm]
4144     Lassen Sie mich zuerst sagen, dass Microsoft meiner Meinung nach einige
4145 root 1.388 großartige Produkte an den Markt gebracht hat. Die Windows Betriebssysteme
4146     sind ausgezeichnete Oberflächen für eine computerisierte Arbeitsumgebung -
4147 root 1.10 erinnern Sie sich an die schwierige Bedienung von DOS!
4148 root 1.387 %
4149 root 1.9 [alt.bible]
4150 root 1.247 Let's not misuse the terminology. Pastor Dave is not a sock puppet, he
4151 root 1.9 is an autonomous entity. A rather mindless entity, but still independent.
4152 root 1.387 %
4153 root 1.247 [02:42] <JanMan> Und, ja, ich glaube MS hat echt probleme mit GPL.
4154     [02:43] <JanMan> GPL ist wie eine Umweltschutzauflage.
4155 root 1.387 %
4156 root 1.9 [this is just here in case i need it for copy&paste]
4157     Fuer Benutzer eines "elektronischen Briefkastens" entsteht durch
4158     unverlangte Werbesendungen eine Belaestigung und verstoesst gegen
4159     die guten Sitten. Das Landgericht Traunstein hat am 14.10.1997
4160     festgestellt, dass das Versenden von unverlangtem Werbematerial via
4161     E-Mail wettbewerbswidrig und somit unzulaessig ist (Az: 2HK O
4162     3755/97). In diesem Gerichtsurteil wurde bei Zuwiderhandlung ein
4163     Ordnungsgeld bis zu DM 500.000,- pro Einzelfall festgesetzt.
4164    
4165 root 1.388 Das Landgericht Berlin (Beschluß vom 14. Mai 1998, Az 16 O 301/98 -
4166 root 1.9 "E-Mail-Werbung") befand, dass das unaufgeforderte Zusendung von
4167 root 1.388 E-Mails gegen § 823 Abs. 1 BGB verstoesst. Bei Zuwiderhandlung
4168 root 1.9 wurde ein Ordnungsgeld von 500.000 DM, ersatzweise Ordnungshaft bis
4169     zu sechs Monaten festgesetzt.
4170    
4171     Nach der staendigen Rechtsprechung des Bundesgerichtshofs
4172     verstoesst ein Verhalten im Wettbewerb nicht nur dann gegen die
4173     guten Sitten, wenn es dem Anstandsgefuehl der redlichen und
4174     verstaendigen Mitbewerber widerspricht, sondern auch dann, wenn die
4175     in Frage stehende wettbewerbliche Massnahme von der Allgemeinheit,
4176     insbesondere von den durch die Werbemassnahme angesprochenen
4177     Verkehrskreisen, missbilligt und als untragbar angesehen wird; denn
4178 root 1.388 § 1 UWG soll auch die Allgemeinheit vor Auswuechsen des Wettbewerbs
4179 root 1.9 bewahren (BGHZ 59, 317, 319 = NJW 1973, 42 - Telexwerbung;
4180     vgl. auch BGHZ 54, 188, 189 = NJW 1970, 1738 - Fernsprechwerbung
4181     m. w. N.). (BGH, Urteil vom 03.02.1988 - I ZR 222/85)
4182 root 1.387 %
4183 root 1.9 [comment found in the source for gnu-tar]
4184     /*---.
4185     | ? |
4186     `---*/
4187 root 1.387 %
4188 root 1.9 Nautilus: Best workout for your VM
4189 root 1.387 %
4190 root 1.8 [While talking about how to formulate the gcc-3.0 press release]
4191     From: Joe Buck
4192     > Can someone say this in a way that doesn't claim precognition?
4193     Simply add "we believe" at appropriate points.
4194 root 1.387 %
4195 root 1.8 [Linus explaining why the bug isn't a bug]
4196     Yes, we'll get a clobbered value, but we'll get a _valid_ clobbered value,
4197 root 1.387 %
4198 root 1.7 04:57] <JanMan> schmorp: normale sicherheitsabfrage:
4199 root 1.247 Hmm Lukas klingelt. Wirklich abheben Nein/Nein :)
4200 root 1.387 %
4201 root 1.4 [ein tag nach arvoreens geburtstagsfeier]
4202 root 1.247 [07:35] <JanMan> hehe, schmorp zur flasche betreffend reiserfs: "It's dead Jim" :)
4203 root 1.387 %
4204 root 1.4 [about a broken perl module by Larry Wall]
4205 root 1.247 [03:02] <schmorp> beschwer dich doch mal bei larry ;)
4206 root 1.4 ...
4207     [03:03] <JanMan> larry sagt sicher: aber als "awk" replacement ist perl ok, oder ? :)
4208 root 1.387 %
4209 root 1.3 [From: Alan Cox]
4210 root 1.247 > The executive, Irving Wladawsky-Berger, an I.B.M. vice president, said,
4211     > "If we thought this was a trap, we wouldn't be doing it, and as you
4212     > know, we have a lot of lawyers."
4213    
4214     I loved that. It's in my fortune file now ;)
4215    
4216     Alan
4217 root 1.387 %
4218 root 1.388 [JanMan über O'Reilly]
4219 root 1.247 [07:41] <JanMan> naja, Win32-Buecher ohne ende.
4220     [07:42] <JanMan> Powering a machine on in the Win32 environment.
4221     [07:42] <JanMan> nene, scherz am rande. fuer geld ziehen sie sich aus.
4222     [07:42] <JanMan> aber die DE-Leute sind ok.
4223 root 1.387 %
4224 root 1.2 [JanMan beim suchen eines exploits in OpenSSL]
4225 root 1.247 [07:05] <JanMan> das nenne ich russisch:
4226     [07:05] <JanMan> EVP_PKEY *key = NULL;
4227     [07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS12_SAFEBAG) *bags = NULL;
4228     [07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS7) *safes = NULL;
4229     [07:05] <JanMan> PKCS12_SAFEBAG *bag = NULL;
4230     [07:08] <JanMan> (#define STACK_OF(type) struct stack_st_##type)
4231 root 1.387 %
4232 root 1.2 Hlade's Law:
4233     If you have a difficult task, give it to a lazy person -- they
4234     will find an easier way to do it.
4235 root 1.387 %
4236 root 1.388 [Über Marco, der immer noch nicht bemerkt hat, das man sein gecos-Feld auf
4237 root 1.7 "Marco alast [name removed to protect the guilty] \(Micro$oft-Fetischist\)" gesetzt hat.]
4238     Paul wrote:
4239     >Marc wrote:
4240 root 1.2 >> Der wird es auch nie schnallen ;-)
4241     > aber echt argllll. Oh Herr schmeiss Hirn vom Himmel (hoffentlich triffts
4242     > den richtigen.
4243 root 1.387 %
4244 root 1.1 [from janmans .sig]
4245     > " Man gebe jedem Niedersachsen - seinen eigenen Castor-Kasten. "
4246 root 1.387 %
4247 root 1.1 [a small perl program]
4248     :(); { :: | :: } ;
4249 root 1.387 %
4250 root 1.1 [a small fork-bomb for bash]
4251     :() { : | : ;} ; :
4252 root 1.387 %
4253 root 1.1 [messages I got while trying to get files from a windoze ftp server]
4254     New: 464 files, 0 symlinks
4255     <--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
4256     <--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
4257     <--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
4258 root 1.387 %
4259 root 1.1 From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
4260     [...]
4261    
4262     >Would gcc exports step forward? How long back does the -traditional-cpp
4263    
4264     Must. Get. More. Sleep. s/ports/perts/
4265 root 1.387 %
4266 root 1.1 > There is a mechanism for this already. It is called overloaded
4267     > constants.
4268    
4269     I have a mechanism that can replace Perl: it's called Turing's machine.
4270 root 1.247 Or an abacus, for that matter. More details on your proposed solution
4271 root 1.1 would be conducive for further discussion.
4272 root 1.387 %
4273 root 1.247 > Is there a kernel development irc room anywhere? If not, does anyone think
4274 root 1.1 > it might be useful?
4275    
4276     I'd just like to point out that it's called a channel, not a
4277     room. Room is a term introduced by AOL, and I don't think it has
4278     much to do with IRC.
4279 root 1.387 %
4280 root 1.1 From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
4281     Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.2 fails to merge mmap areas, 700% slowdown.
4282    
4283     [...]
4284     Cool. Somebody actually found a real case.
4285    
4286     I'll fix the mmap case asap. Its' not hard, I just waited to see if it
4287     ever actually triggers. Something like g++ certainly counts as major.
4288 root 1.387 %
4289 root 1.1 [sorry, that's internal, folks ;)]
4290 root 1.247 [07:17] <marco2> elmex heisst jetzt plagiator...
4291 root 1.387 %
4292 root 1.1 [http://www.latimes.com/business/cutting/20010405/t000029080.html]
4293    
4294     Like all good paranoid fantasies, mine has a villain: the Japanese.
4295     Japanese electronics designers have been deliberately building
4296     clocks into everything in hopes of weakening our industrial might.
4297    
4298     Now, you might say, "Dave, that's crazy talk. The Japanese have a
4299     lot more of these gadgets than we do. They're gadget freaks,
4300     man. They'd be hurt by this as much as we are, or even more." Which
4301     shows how much you know, pal.
4302    
4303     The Japanese don't have daylight saving time.
4304 root 1.387 %
4305 root 1.1 [messages we got while we massacred our institute's configuration]
4306     /scsi2/user2# Apr 5 00:01:17 islhp7 sendmail[1539]: savemail: HELP!!!!
4307     Apr 5 00:08:16 islhp7 sendmail[1626]: savemail: HELP!!!!
4308 root 1.387 %
4309 root 1.1 [a JAPH using doubled characters only]
4310     s//pprriinntt ""JJuusstt AAnnootthheerr PPeerrll HHaacckkeerr,,""22//11;;
4311     y yzzyyccss;;##s
4312     s((((.................................))((((((((..??))))))))))(($$11))ee;;
4313 root 1.387 %
4314 root 1.1 [from the FWP mailinglist]
4315     > OR is spelled "|" in the version of Perl I have, not "&" :)
4316     Your version of perl sucks.
4317 root 1.387 %
4318 root 1.247 [01:43] <elmex_> ah-oh-uh
4319     [01:44] <schmorp> leitung durchhacken
4320     [01:44] <elmex_> wieso? welche?
4321     [01:45] <schmorp> die, auf der du nach dem durchhacken auch noch sitzt? ;9
4322     [02:03] <elmex_> das mit dem durchhacken daurert noch
4323     [02:03] <elmex_> da isn stahltraeger in der wand
4324     [02:04] <elmex_> muss ich erst drumherum
4325     [02:04] <elmex_> ;)
4326 root 1.1 [02:04] <schmorp> ist doch gut. seine leitungen soltle man ja auch nicht durchhacken
4327 root 1.247 [02:04] <elmex_> nich? aber du sachstes doch?
4328     [02:05] <schmorp> *sigh*
4329 root 1.387 %
4330 root 1.1 I agree the message is pretty useless: you need to know what it means
4331     before you can understand it :)
4332 root 1.387 %
4333 root 1.1 > now. Rather than the current system of "measure this item onscreen
4334     > and enter the figure from your ruler" to calculate DPI, I think it
4335     > would be more userfriendly to have the shape of some common object
4336 root 1.247 > that you could stretch to fit. For example, you could select A4
4337 root 1.1 > paper, place the top of a sheet against the monitor, and stretch or
4338     > shrink the virtual outline until it fits the physical outline. That
4339     > would give a pretty decent measurement, I think
4340    
4341     IMHO (I have thought about this before) the perfect object is a CD
4342     There is nowhere in the world which does not have CDs, they are always
4343     the same size to within mm and they are perfectly round, so they can
4344     easily be used to check that your circles are circular _if_ that is
4345     what you want (cheap screens will distort things too badly for this to
4346     be worth attempting).
4347    
4348     I'm too busy to do anything about it though, so if a piece of A4 paper
4349     floats your goat, go for it! It's about time the Americans finally
4350     caught up to the 20th century and went metric anyway...
4351    
4352     Nick.
4353 root 1.387 %
4354 root 1.1 From: "Mike Rebane" <reba0002@algonquincollege.com>
4355     Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:48:48 -0500
4356     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
4357    
4358 root 1.247 I dont know if you are the right person to be asking about this, but here it
4359 root 1.1 goes anyways. I was wondering if you could direct me to some information on
4360     how to hack into paysites. Im currently a networking student in college and
4361     have a good knowledge of win 98 win 2000 and win NT. My e-mail adress is
4362     magic_bone@hotmail.com
4363 root 1.387 %
4364 root 1.1 > > > I guess then someone would want
4365     > > > { ... } for (...) if ...;
4366     > > > to work :-)
4367 root 1.247 > >
4368 root 1.1 > > Funnily enough I wrote that very thing only yesterday.
4369 root 1.247 >
4370 root 1.1 > Eh?
4371 root 1.247 >
4372 root 1.1 > $ perl -we '{ print "$_\n" } for (@a) if $a'
4373     > syntax error at -e line 1, near ") if"
4374    
4375     He didn't say it worked. :)
4376 root 1.387 %
4377 root 1.1 From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
4378    
4379     On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:10:52PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
4380     > I find it irksome that
4381 root 1.247 >
4382 root 1.1 > for ( ... ) { ... } if ...;
4383    
4384     ...doesn't work, and that my send finger is too itchy.
4385 root 1.387 %
4386 root 1.1 [a perl5 bug report]
4387     From: Simon Cozens
4388    
4389     On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:49:55AM -0600, Dan Brumleve wrote:
4390     > '' =~ ($re = qr((??{$i++ < 10e4 ? $re : ''})));
4391     > Produces SIGSEGV.
4392    
4393     Looks like a feature to me.
4394 root 1.387 %
4395 root 1.1 [Lukilein...]
4396 root 1.388 "Wie man ein BSE-Unix überhaupt bedienen kann..."
4397 root 1.387 %
4398 root 1.1 [hehe, the "critical thinking community", mainly located in the lesser
4399     intelligent parts of the earth named "USA";)]
4400    
4401     "There are articles and studies showing that, at one time, all of Earth
4402     continents were on one side of the planet. What the stories don't explore
4403     is the question, if all the continents were on one side, what was on the
4404     other? The other side has been described as a tremendous gap [...]"
4405    
4406     "We can see clear proof that the continents were all once connected by
4407     simply looking at a map of the Earth and seeing how the pieces fit. That
4408     would only mean that at one time, Earth was basically half a planet. If
4409     you were to syphon all the water off of Earth's surface, you would see a
4410     large gapping hole where the ocean has filled in this tremendous missing
4411     part of the Earth. Where did it go? Why is Earth only half a planet?"
4412 root 1.387 %
4413 root 1.1 [following cites are from Crypto-Gram 20010315]
4414     I'll just reprint this from their Web site: "iBallot.Com uses a number of
4415     security and encryption features that, when combined, provide a very high
4416     level of security throughout the entire voting process. The details of
4417     this process are proprietary, for obvious reasons. It does not make a
4418     great deal of sense to disclose how the iBallot.Com security system works
4419     only to have a hacker come into the system, read about the system's
4420     security, defeat the security and tamper with the voting process. For this
4421     reason, iBallot.Com does not publish its security processes. However, with
4422     the foregoing being said, the iBallot.Com system does employ encryption and
4423     secure server technology to ensure that the entire voting process is fair,
4424     accurate and not subject to tampering."
4425    
4426     Encryption and secure server technology.... Boy, I certainly feel
4427     better. Good thing they don't disclose their security; if they did some
4428     hacker might read about it and break it. Who *are* these guys?
4429    
4430     <http://www.iballot.com/faq2.cfm?docid=28>
4431 root 1.387 %
4432 root 1.1 It's too late; Microsoft fixed it. But just a few days ago there was one
4433     more Q/A between the second and third question. It read: "Will the virus
4434     impact my Macintosh if I am using a non-Microsoft e-mail program, such as
4435     Eudora? If you are using a Macintosh e-mail program that is not from
4436     Microsoft, we recommend checking with that particular company. But most
4437     likely other e-mail programs like Eudora are not designed to enable virus
4438     replication."
4439     <http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/office/2001/virus_alert.asp>
4440 root 1.387 %
4441 root 1.1 [just some private thoughts]
4442     Ever asked yourself why your handheld irda communication is so slow?
4443    
4444     IrOBEX (Irda Object Exchange): A standard made by Microsoft, and it really
4445     shows.
4446    
4447     First of all, it is utterly inefficient in transfers: RTT totally dictates
4448     transfer speed, not a good thing with Irda (which has a high RTT). This
4449     totally circumvents the sliding windows irda protocol.
4450    
4451     Also, the IrOBEX specification talks a lot about "Unicode" text without
4452     defining it (except through totally wrong descriptions like "Unicode
4453     is two bytes/character", showing their total lack of knowledge since
4454     this is just plain wrong. I wonder what they mean with "Unicode", some
4455     MS-proprietary format? Not unlikely, given what they did to iso-8859-1).
4456    
4457     Reading through that document you will find that it would have been easy
4458     to find people doing a better job. Actually, I think even apes would come
4459     up with a saner protocol.
4460 root 1.387 %
4461 root 1.1 [voting by television, the american way...]
4462     "They [voters] were like, 'Who are all these people? I thought it was only Bush
4463     and Gore running,' " Tyson said.
4464    
4465     Many voters believed the 10 candidates were running for different offices and
4466     cast votes for several of them, Tyson said. Some Spanish-speaking or Haitian
4467     voters may have had difficulty understanding directions, Tyson said.
4468 root 1.387 %
4469 root 1.1 IBM has withdrawn CPRM...
4470     <http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-201-4922288-0.html?tag=mn_hd>
4471     ...and replaced it with something almost identical:
4472     <http://slashdot.org/yro/01/02/23/2134255.shtml>
4473     A good analysis by John Gilmore:
4474     <http://cryptome.org/cprm-smoke.htm>
4475 root 1.387 %
4476 root 1.1 [Midori-Linux FAQ]
4477     Q: What can I do about Netscape crashing?
4478 root 1.247 A: Any experienced user of Linux Netscape is used to
4479     seeing it crash and the included version of Linux Netscape
4480     is no exception. This is probably not good, but the product
4481     does not come with source code. The workaround is to run
4482 root 1.1 Netscape in a loop.
4483 root 1.387 %
4484 root 1.1 Subject: [reiserfs-list] Free Space - Where did it go?
4485 root 1.387 %
4486 root 1.1 [Technologieregion Karlsruhe (und andere)]
4487     marco: Die Region zwischen Stuttgart, Heilbronn und Karlsruhe produziert
4488 root 1.247 mehr als Laender wie Schweden, die Schweiz oder Spanien!
4489 root 1.1 marco: Im neuesten Technologiebarometer von wired stehen wir auf Platz 2
4490 root 1.247 hinter dem Silicon Valley in bezug auf Technologie und Infrastruktur
4491 root 1.387 %
4492 root 1.1 [2001-03-14, 3sat, Kulturzeit zum Absturz der MIR:]
4493     "ist mir egal"
4494 root 1.387 %
4495 root 1.1 From: Hans Reiser
4496     Subject: [reiserfs-list] fsck now uses lost and found!
4497    
4498     Dad, make sure the docs get updated.
4499 root 1.387 %
4500 root 1.1 [debugging message found in the siemens data exchange software]
4501     hallole
4502 root 1.387 %
4503 root 1.1 I have seen that many drives either have a pathetically small queue or
4504     have completely broken tagged queueing. I guess thats what happens when
4505     most vendors target their hardware for micro$oft.
4506 root 1.387 %
4507 root 1.1 1925 With a drink so good, 'tis folly to be thirsty
4508     1929 The high sign of refreshment
4509     1929 The pause that refreshes
4510     1930 It had to be good to get where it is
4511     1932 The drink that makes a pause refreshing
4512     1935 The pause that brings friends together
4513     1937 STOP for a pause... GO refreshed
4514     1938 The best friend thirst ever had
4515     1939 Thirst stops here
4516     1942 It's the real thing
4517     1947 Have a Coke
4518     1961 Zing! what a REFRESHING NEW FEELING
4519     1963 Things go better with Coke
4520     1969 Face Uncle Sam with a Coke in your hand
4521     1979 Have a Coke and a smile
4522     1982 Coke is it!
4523     -- Coca-Cola slogans
4524 root 1.387 %
4525 root 1.1 [strings recently found in my /proc/cpuinfo]
4526     model name : Heavily Overclocked Pentium II (Klamath) (266Mhz/66Mhz FSB)
4527 root 1.387 %
4528 root 1.247 [02:24] <elmex> schmorp:
4529     [02:24] <elmex> ich wollte mal meine logik ueberpruefen an deiner erfahrung
4530 root 1.387 %
4531 root 1.388 [Die letzte Woche war zuviel für Paul]
4532 root 1.1 Nach mehrstuendigen Laptop-um-/-neu-/-rauf- und runterinstallationen
4533     erlitt unser allseits bekannter und beliebter RechnerHiWi
4534     islpaul.bettinger am heutigen Nachmittag einen Totalabsturz. Nach der
4535     Meldung "Die Anwendung 'Installiere Cheflaptop' wurde aufgrund eines
4536     ungueltigen Vorganges beendet" begann er sinnlose Lieder zu singen "Die
4537     Karawane zieht weiter, der Sultan haelt durch". Unmittelbar darauf
4538     wurde seine Brille blau, der Schriftzug "Allgemeine Schutzverletzung"
4539     erschien. Nach einem Reboot durch Roland (ehemaliger Fussballer, zum
4540     booten also gut geeignet), meldete Paul nur noch "Bitte Windows 2000 CD
4541     einlegen" (siehe dazu die vorige PTS-Mitteilung). Nach Einlegen einer
4542     Linux-Bootdiskette konnte Paul im Single User Modus wiederbelebt werden
4543     - allerdings nur mit einem Bruchteil seiner urspruenglichen Faehigkeiten
4544     (640k Speicher, 16bit Farbwahrnehmung, kein Plug&Play). Er plant nun eine
4545     Karriere als Windows Sysadmin oder Java Programmierer.
4546    
4547     Beileidbekundungen und Spenden bitte an
4548     hi09@isl.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de
4549 root 1.387 %
4550 root 1.1 [RMS about gcc snapshots]
4551     From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
4552    
4553     [...] Red Hat did make their own release from a snapshot, which was an
4554     uncool thing to do. [...]
4555 root 1.387 %
4556 root 1.1 "Als das Universum einige zehntausend Jahre alt war - logarithmisch
4557     betrachtet also vor relativ kurzer Zeit -, ..."
4558     [Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 3/2001, S. 38]
4559 root 1.387 %
4560 root 1.388 "Es ist ein wunderbar beglückendes Gefühl, wenn ein selbstgefertigtes
4561 root 1.1 Programm zum ersten Mal in die Rechenmaschine eingelesen wird, wenn die
4562 root 1.388 Maschine anschließend rechnet und die richtigen Resultate ausdruckt."
4563 root 1.1
4564 root 1.388 "Manche Programmierer erliegen dem Rausch dieses Gefühls so sehr,
4565     daß sie süchtig werden und über dem Programmieren andere Dinge
4566     vernachlässigen. Erfahrungsgemäß hört diese Sucht nach 0,5 bis 2 Jahren
4567     von selbst auf und macht dann häufig sogar einer gewissen Abneigung gegen
4568 root 1.1 die Maschinen Platz."
4569     [Prof. Dr. Karl Nickel (TH Karlsruhe), "ALGOL Praktikum", 1964]
4570 root 1.387 %
4571 root 1.1 My previous job, and some contract work I have done, involved writing
4572     software for Windows. My WORST problems were incompatibilities between
4573     Windows NT and Windows 95. The APIs do NOT, I repeat NOT! NOT! NOT!
4574     work the same on the various Windows flavors, as soon as you start
4575     doing non-trivial applications. Three times at least, portability
4576     problems from NT to Win95 cost me sleepless nights. Debugging stuff
4577     like that is hell when you don't have the source.
4578    
4579     And when things break on Win95 where they ran on NT, what do you do,
4580     run a debugger on Win95, where a crash can (and will) bring down the
4581     whole system? Ugh, the horror.
4582 root 1.387 %
4583 root 1.1 > You know XOR is patented (yes, the logical bit operation XOR).
4584    
4585     US Patent #4,197,590 held by NuGraphics, Inc.
4586 root 1.387 %
4587 root 1.1 Legend has it Microsoft once found a patent of theirs which IBM appeared
4588     to have infringed, and were very excited at the possibility of something
4589     to hold over IBM, so their lawyers met IBM's lawyers. The MS lawyers
4590     beamed "look at our patent you've infringed!" IBM's lawyers replied "look
4591     at this pile of our patents YOU'VE infringed... let's start with this
4592 root 1.247 one. A Tab key." MS suddenly realised they were outlawyered...
4593 root 1.387 %
4594 root 1.1 From: David Woodhouse
4595     > Okay, so if we are going to get real stupid about the whole thing, I
4596     > wonder if Microsloth is going to patent the patent?
4597    
4598     Filing nuisance patents for obvious stuff which shouldn't ever get granted
4599     is a viable business method and as such is patentable in the US.
4600    
4601     After all, what patent officer is going to point out the prior art?
4602 root 1.387 %
4603 root 1.1 http://vger.kernel.org/lkml/#s3-9
4604 root 1.387 %
4605 root 1.1 [recently on linux-kernel]
4606     From: Alan Cox
4607     > > Yeah. We can have this as part of the locale settings, changable by
4608     > > echoing the desired locale string to /proc/sys/kernel/lc_all.
4609 root 1.247 >
4610     > Just an idea, . . but isn't this something better done in userland?
4611 root 1.1
4612 root 1.247 Please remember this is an international list. For the benefit of certain
4613 root 1.1 users please mark all sarcasm with the word NOT or a simply face
4614 root 1.387 %
4615 root 1.1 From: Russell King
4616     Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:31:26 +0000 (GMT)
4617     To: Albert D. Cahalan
4618    
4619     Albert D. Cahalan writes:
4620     > The units seem to vary. I suggest using fundamental SI units.
4621     > That would be meters, kilograms, seconds, and maybe a very
4622     > few others -- my memory fails me on this.
4623    
4624     iirc, SI comes from France, and therefore it should be "metres"
4625    
4626     [flames to /dev/null please] ;)
4627 root 1.387 %
4628 root 1.388 [11:19] <pho3nix> ich hoffe du bist dir im klaren darüber, das ein Mensch,
4629 root 1.1 der was von dir hielt, jetzt so beleidigt wurde, dass er nichts mehr mit
4630     dir zu tun haben will, COMMUNICATION END
4631 root 1.247 [11:19] <schmorp> pho3nix: ich weiss ja nochnichtmal, warum?
4632 root 1.387 %
4633 root 1.388 [über "Mediengestaltung"]
4634 root 1.247 [10:39] <elmex|Zz> pho3nix: information mit desingt ueberlagern
4635     [10:40] <schmorp> elmex|Zz: ueberlagern oder erestzen, das its hier die frage?
4636 root 1.387 %
4637 root 1.1 [perldoc perlembed]
4638     You can sometimes _write_faster_code_ in C, but you can always _write_code_faster_ in Perl.
4639 root 1.387 %
4640 root 1.247 [03:34] <JanMan> Arvoreen: elmex-werbung: "Nur echt elmex, wenn Lukas drinnsteckt" :)
4641 root 1.387 %
4642 root 1.247 [09:26] <JanMan> bevor du arbeiten auf lukas-server nimm den job als massenmoerder.
4643     [09:34] <JanMan> elmex: pass' auf, dass keine loop entsteht:
4644     nameserver->lukas_arsch->lukas->dein_arsch->du->name-server
4645 root 1.387 %
4646 root 1.1 [linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_nat_ftp.c]
4647     /* So there I am, in the middle of my `netfilter-is-wonderful'
4648     talk in Sydney, and someone asks `What happens if you try
4649     to enlarge a 64k packet here?'. I think I said something
4650     eloquent like `fuck'. */
4651 root 1.387 %
4652 root 1.1 [20:44] <elmex|aw> ich werde mir nochmal ueberlegen ob ich heute nochmal hier her komme......
4653 root 1.387 %
4654 root 1.247 [09:40] <kiki> zu spaet
4655     [09:40] <JanMan> kiki: hey, blasen hilft jetzt auch nicht mehr...
4656     [09:41] <kiki> lutschen hat noch nie bei dir geholfen
4657     [09:41] <kiki> aushungern schon
4658     [09:41] <JanMan> elmex: ja, das hat mit blume + biene zu tun.
4659     [09:41] <elmex> ?
4660     [09:42] <elmex> JanMan: ich kenne mich schon sehr wohl damit aus. nur halt noch keine erfarung
4661 root 1.387 %
4662 root 1.1 [Sierpinski Triangle, by Rich Morin]
4663     for$y(0..31){for(0..31){print$_&$y?$":'*'}print$/}
4664 root 1.387 %
4665 root 1.1 [From RDFStore::Stanford::Digest::Util, which is a java library ported to
4666     perl:]
4667    
4668     $SIG{__WARN__} = sub { return undef; }; #to take off the bloody utf warns
4669    
4670     [now, as for some comments: it took me hours to debug code that used warn
4671     to, well, warn users but the users didn't see anything. The intent of the
4672     above code was obviously to get rid of the "illegal multibyte character"
4673     warning in perl. This is the typical way a java programmer reacts to bugs
4674     in his code: "I don't understand this computer thing anyway, so let's just
4675     disable the message and pray it works"]
4676 root 1.387 %
4677 root 1.1 [Another "one-liner" mail... Please spam him ;)]
4678     From: "Alexander Daskalov" <alexanderd@alexsmail.com>
4679     Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:44:11 -0800
4680     X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05>
4681    
4682     I was just curious how many people are on ths gimp mailing list? Whoever+
4683     can see this message please reply with a simple answer like: i am, or+
4684     i'm on the list!, etc. Please reply, i thik everybody else might want to+
4685     know this same information, it also gives us a chance to know each other+
4686     better! So please reply to this message if on the mailing list!
4687 root 1.387 %
4688 root 1.1 [I was looking for ISO3166 && ISO639 tables in the corresponding "local"
4689     language, if applicable, and came up with this:]
4690     http://www.tieke.fi/sc32wg1/wg1n155.pdf
4691 root 1.387 %
4692 root 1.1 [imap-2000c/c-client/unix.c]
4693     * This file is dedicated to my dog, Unix, also known as Yun-chan and
4694     * Unix J. Terwilliker Jehosophat Aloysius Monstrosity Animal Beast. Unix
4695     * passed away at the age of 11 1/2 on September 14, 1996, 12:18 PM PDT, after
4696     * a two-month bout with cirrhosis of the liver.
4697 root 1.387 %
4698 root 1.1 [from qmail's maildir(5)]
4699     Many sites use Sun's Network Failure System (NFS), presumably because the
4700     operating system vendor does not offer anything else.
4701 root 1.387 %
4702 root 1.1 [Lukas Grundwald]
4703     Der Film scheint echt gut zu sein: geht viel kaputt.
4704 root 1.387 %
4705 root 1.1 [waiting for windows...]
4706     http://www.cool-pix-server.de/pix/microsoft/microsoft002.jpg
4707 root 1.387 %
4708 root 1.1 [x86 really is a cool design]
4709     > For our specific purposes, that's not important. We already flush the cache
4710     > before we create uncached regions (via ioremap_nocache). I understand that as a
4711     > general Linux feature, you can't ignore cache incoherency, but I don't think
4712     > it's a hard requirement.
4713    
4714     Actually you can't ignore it or the processor will have a heart attack
4715     if the cached page mapping is used even speculatively. I've done some
4716     experimenting, if the page is mapped cached in one place, and UCWC in
4717     another, things will not work. Its extremely likely the processor will
4718     cease to function. Its not like having cached and uncached mappings of
4719     a page (which does work on the Intel processors, we use that feature in
4720     the agpgart and the DRM in fact.) When you mark a page UCWC, you better
4721     have removed all cached mappings or your asking for REAL trouble.
4722 root 1.387 %
4723 root 1.1 > once again. On the Debian group it's invariably "how do I load
4724     > Netscape?"
4725 root 1.247
4726 root 1.1 can't be. debian sounds more like: "who do i have to ask for using
4727     netscape, and do we all agree on /usr/local/bin/. ?"
4728 root 1.387 %
4729 root 1.1 The COBOL language was created specifically to reduce the amount of
4730     commenting necessary in a program, because the English-like sentence
4731     structure could be read and understood by humans. The FORTRAN language was
4732     created so that math types could "talk" in a language more familiar to
4733     them, letting the computer take care of the details about how to perform
4734     the specified task step-by-step.
4735 root 1.387 %
4736 root 1.1 There is an old programmer's rule.
4737    
4738     "Documentation? Too bad. If the code was damned hard to write, it should
4739     be damned hard to understand."
4740 root 1.387 %
4741 root 1.1 [Linus]
4742     Tabs are 8 characters. They are NOT adjustable. Never have been, never
4743     will be. Anybody who thinks tabs are anything but 8 chars apart is just
4744     wrong. It's that simple.
4745 root 1.387 %
4746 root 1.1 [yes, thank you, it helps a lot ;)]
4747 root 1.247 09:31] *** Joins: Unkn0wn [chaos@AC880AE2.ipt.aol.com] has joined #schmorp
4748 root 1.1 [09:32] <Unkn0wn> Nah, I won't alert yas. Was just cruisin around and found your
4749     site of H-games and thought bout thankin you for puttin it up. I figure most ppl
4750     never take a moment to thank someone. =P <Bows, and heads back to #VB on
4751 root 1.247 Undernet>
4752 root 1.387 %
4753 root 1.1 [character normalization might be harmful]
4754     > In short, normalizing prior to digesting AVOIDS allowing
4755     > inconsequential changes to change the digest. If I have misunderstood the
4756     > point of the section cited, I'm sure someone will correct me.
4757    
4758     Your scenario is correct as far as it goes. But consider a signed
4759     document that contains an element or attribute named
4760 root 1.388 "autorisation_de_découvert" ("credit limit").
4761 root 1.1 A forged version of the document that contained the name
4762     "autorization_de_de'couvert" (where ' = COMBINING ACUTE) would pass
4763     a normalization + signature check. However, the document processor
4764     might well fail to recognize it as having the semantics of "credit limit"
4765     and treat it as unknown and to be ignored. Bad news: the forger
4766     now appears to have unlimited credit!
4767 root 1.387 %
4768 root 1.1 ["my spam"]
4769     99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other
4770     numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of
4771     protestors and disidents). Half of what's left comes from either .kr
4772     or .br. I'm fully in favor of an Internet Death Penalty against those
4773     TLD's and associated domains till they clean up their acts.
4774 root 1.387 %
4775 root 1.1 [from linux-kernel]
4776     Hello Linus, my name is Rick Jones. I am the person at Hewlett-Packard
4777     who drafted the "so _obviously_ stupid" sendfile() interface of HP-UX.
4778     [... snip ...]
4779     never forget what leads to the downfall of the protagonist in Greek
4780     tragedy...
4781 root 1.387 %
4782 root 1.1 From: "Mike A. Harris"
4783 root 1.247
4784 root 1.1 On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
4785     >---- A notice to spammers ----
4786     >Unsolicited electronic mail advertisements to my email address is
4787     >strictly prohibited. Pursuant to California Business and Professions
4788     >Code, Section 17538.45, senders of unsolicited electronic mail
4789     >advertisements to me may be subject to a civil penalty of $50 per
4790     >message plus attorney's fees.
4791     [SNIP long sig]
4792 root 1.247
4793 root 1.1 O - K then. Nice sig. Too bad that it is at least as big as
4794     most spam mailings themselves. Instead of preventing spam,
4795     all you're doing is contributing to it.
4796 root 1.247
4797 root 1.1 I just delete spam now as it is easiest most of the time.
4798     However fortunately, the below sig comes from a static and easily
4799     procmailable address.
4800 root 1.247
4801 root 1.1 One more note is that no law of California, nor anywhre else
4802     means jack shit 50 meters away from your keyboard, so it is all
4803     just a waste of bandwidth.
4804 root 1.387 %
4805 root 1.388 rm: Entfernen von Verzeichnis »./xxx/po« nicht möglich: Die Datei existiert bereits
4806 root 1.387 %
4807 root 1.1 [during a toilet session, this flashed/flushed through my mind/brain]
4808     /bin/true --version | read && echo eek, a gnuzifist\!
4809 root 1.387 %
4810 root 1.1 [stefan thought this would be better]
4811 root 1.247 /bin/true --version | read && rm -rf / # get rid of non-posix Windows stuff.
4812 root 1.387 %
4813 root 1.1 [Java-Design]
4814 root 1.247 [02:53] <schmorp> in c 1 stunde suchen und probieren und dann 7 zeilen
4815     [02:53] <JanMan> schmorp: nein. in C 2 minuten suchen.
4816     [02:54] <JanMan> ich weiss nicht, an welchen level ich wo patchen soll.
4817 root 1.1 [02:55] <JanMan> es gibt eine Key, eine RSAKey, eine RSAKeyPublic/RSAKeyPrivate
4818 root 1.247 klasse, alles muell.
4819     [02:56] <JanMan> (ueberall noch ein praefix SSH..)
4820     [02:56] <JanMan> und die sachen sind ueber SSHRSAPublicKeyFile abgewickelt...
4821     [02:57] <JanMan> klar gibt es auch SSHRSAPublicKeyString.
4822 root 1.387 %
4823 root 1.247 [02:38] <JanMan> Lexikon: Java - siehe "ins Knie ficken, objektorientiert"
4824 root 1.387 %
4825 root 1.247 [02:30] <JanMan> schmorp: java has too many keywords but lacks an important one.
4826 root 1.1 [02:32] <JanMan> schmorp: yes: "broken". Java needs a "broken" keyword. "Error:
4827 root 1.247 missing "broken" but class seems "broken".
4828 root 1.387 %
4829 root 1.1 On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 09:34:08PM -0500, Michael Rothwell wrote:
4830     The man pages for open, read and write say that if a file is opened
4831     using the O_NONBLOCK flag, then read() and write() will always return
4832     immediately and not block the calling process.
4833    
4834     the man pages are wrong
4835    
4836     --cw
4837 root 1.387 %
4838 root 1.1 From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
4839     ...
4840     My take on this is that khttpd is unmaintained garbage.
4841 root 1.387 %
4842 root 1.1 [Subject: line on linux-kernel]
4843     Re: That horrible hack from hell called A20
4844 root 1.387 %
4845 root 1.1 From: "Vladimir V. Saveliev"
4846     > tar cvpf - foo | ( cd reiserfs; tar xvpf - )
4847     > Halfway through it gets a kernel oops and
4848    
4849     How fast does it oops?
4850 root 1.387 %
4851 root 1.1 From: Stefan Traby <stefan@hello-penguin.com>
4852    
4853     On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:01:05PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
4854     > NFSv2 has a 32bit file offset. Thus the largest file on NFSv2 you want to
4855     > touch is 2Gig.
4856    
4857     In theory, yes.
4858     In practice you don't want to touch NFS under Linux at all, so the
4859     2GB limit is a theoretical one. :)
4860 root 1.387 %
4861 root 1.247 [10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
4862     [10:44] <elmex> | | | | | | |
4863     [10:44] <elmex> | | | |-----| | | |
4864     [10:44] <elmex> | |-------------------------| | | |
4865     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| | .---------------------------.| |-------|
4866     [10:44] <elmex> | | | |Welcome on elmex.x-paste.de|| | |
4867     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| | `---------------------------'| | |
4868     [10:44] <elmex> | |----------| |-----------------------| |
4869     [10:44] <elmex> | | |-| | | | |
4870     [10:44] <elmex> |-| | | | |-----| |
4871     [10:44] <elmex> | |------------|-------------- | | |
4872     [10:44] <elmex> | |-----------------------------------|-| |----|
4873     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| |-| | | | |
4874     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| | | | | |
4875     [10:44] <elmex> |-| | | | | |
4876     [10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
4877 root 1.387 %
4878 root 1.1 Any committee IQ: average intelligence of members, divided by headcount.
4879 root 1.387 %
4880 root 1.1 "There were a lot of snickers in my course... The students looked at me
4881     like I was a stegosaurus still walking around when I told them that the
4882     [irrational spending of many dot-coms] was not sustainable. You have to
4883     take in more money then you put out, or you're toast."
4884     -- Ken Morse, managing director, MIT Entrepreneurship Center
4885 root 1.387 %
4886 root 1.1 "Wenn _ich_ das sage, darf ich das."
4887     [Lukas Grunwald]
4888 root 1.387 %
4889 root 1.1 [about having sponsoring message in YOUR syslog]
4890     From: Felix von Leitner <leitner@convergence.de>
4891     Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:33:13 +0100
4892     To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
4893    
4894     Thus spake Wojciech Puchar (wojtek@wojtek.from.pl):
4895     > > To view list of copyright holders type `copyright' at the shell
4896     > > prompt.
4897     > very good. maybe implement /proc/info/copyrights /proc/info/sponsors
4898     > /proc/info/authors?
4899 root 1.247
4900 root 1.1 Grand idea.
4901     Let's also add /proc/info/spammers,
4902     /proc/info/people-who-bothered-linus,
4903     /proc/info/people-who-disagree-with-hans-reiser,
4904     /proc/info/people-who-were-flamed-by-alan-cox and
4905     /proc/info/people-who-marc-lehmann-dislikes.
4906 root 1.247
4907 root 1.1 NOT.
4908     [...]
4909 root 1.387 %
4910 root 1.1 [Nick and I used to fight a LOT]
4911     Subject: Re: suggestion for gimp 1.3 and later
4912     From: Nick Lamb <njl98r@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
4913 root 1.247
4914 root 1.1 On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:29:41AM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
4915     > I think the best way would be to make any gtk label/text widget be
4916     > selectable. I don't know why this has not been done so far, but it might be
4917     > an interesting experiment.
4918 root 1.247
4919 root 1.1 Yes, I've often thought this. And everyone knows that if Marc and I agree
4920     about something it must be right (?) or at least it's in no-one's interest
4921     to disagree...
4922 root 1.387 %
4923 root 1.1 http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LNUX&d=2y WINNER
4924     http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RHAT&d=2y 2nd prize!
4925     http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CALD&d=1y 3rd prize!
4926     [und Lukas sagt:]
4927     ... man beachte die logarithmische Skala!
4928 root 1.387 %
4929 root 1.1 [from "how to photograph a total eclipse", in the nasa 1999 solar eclipse
4930     report:]
4931     ... The best strategy is to choose one aperture or f/number and bracket
4932     the exposures over a range of shutter speeds (i.e. 1/1000 down to 1
4933     second). Rehearsing this sequence is highly recommended since great
4934     excitment accompanies totality and there is little time to think.
4935 root 1.387 %
4936 root 1.1 [boy, now I know why I dislike GNOME]
4937     http://www.helixcode.com/~miguel/bongo-bong.html
4938 root 1.387 %
4939 root 1.1 ["kORBit, a CORBA implementation for the linux-kernel"]
4940     From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
4941     Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:34:39 +0100
4942    
4943     Alexander Viro wrote:
4944     > > It was just an example. Basically, you'd be able to do in with just
4945     > > about any language that has ORBit bindings.
4946     >
4947     > Yeah... "Infinitely extendable API" and all such. Roughly translated
4948     > as "we can't live without API bloat". Frankly, judging by the GNOME
4949     > codebase people who designed the thing are culturally incompatible with
4950     > UNIX.
4951    
4952     Agree. I remember a big complaint about Windows was the huge APIs,
4953     compared with Unix' tiny list of syscalls. And then I saw the GNOME
4954     docs... ew!
4955 root 1.387 %
4956 root 1.1 > Good question. The whole thing makes me nervous... in fact, perhaps we
4957     > should really consider using the BIOS INT 15h interrupt to enter
4958     > protected mode?
4959    
4960     From my experience with BIOS authors, only if Windows 98 uses the same function
4961     with the same arguments, the same stuff top of stack and the same segment
4962     registers loaded ;)
4963 root 1.387 %
4964 root 1.1 > > there... If someone wants to back-port the driver to 2.2, this makes it
4965     [...]
4966     > backports hurt forward progress.
4967    
4968     beware of content free dogma
4969 root 1.387 %
4970 root 1.1 > What operating systems use local time as their basic clock these days? Just
4971     > wondering.
4972    
4973     Any IBM PC compatible machine that runs under at least one Microsoft OS
4974     has to keep the battery-backed CMOS clock chip in local time, because
4975     unlike most other operating systems (e.g., any Unix flavour), none of
4976     Microsoft's CMOS clock drivers have a UTC option. Rather disappointing
4977     and every year an unneeded hassle after DST switches on multi-OS
4978     machines. From discussions with Microsoft staff, I have to conclude that
4979     no-one within Microsoft has even understood the problem.
4980    
4981     Markus [G. Kuhn]
4982 root 1.387 %
4983 root 1.1 >Keith,
4984 root 1.247 >
4985 root 1.1 >Please consider the attached patch for inclusion in all future versions
4986     >of the modutils depmod program for compatiblity with RedHat and
4987     >RedHat derived Linux distributions.
4988    
4989     I have a big problem with Redhat. They make incompatible changes to
4990     utilities, do not feed patches back to maintainers then expect the rest
4991     of the world to follow their lead. The -i and -m flags to modutils are
4992     not the only example, I recently found IA64 and Sparc patches they had
4993     added to modutils code and not bothered to tell me. Other distributors
4994     are much better about sending me patches, Debian and SuSe in particular
4995     do the right thing.
4996    
4997     Since "-F System.map" in modutils is equivalent to "-m System.map -i"
4998     and works on all distributions, not just Redhat, the "-m -i" patch is
4999     unnecessary. Consider this my protest against bad habits by
5000     distributors, they created the mess with their lack of communication
5001     and they have to fix it.
5002 root 1.387 %
5003 root 1.1 10:44] <JanMan> falls Du mal DB2 crashen musst:
5004     [10:45] <JanMan> connect reset;
5005     [10:45] <JanMan> connect to sample user db2admin using db2admin;
5006     [10:45] <JanMan> select * from employee where year(birthdate)=1999 and firstnme<'';
5007 root 1.387 %
5008 root 1.1 [a perl quine, by ilmari karonen:]
5009     printf+(q(printf+(q(%s))x2))x2
5010 root 1.387 %
5011 root 1.1 On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 07:22:34PM -0500, M&M Samsel wrote:
5012     > You see I have about 10 years of commercial development experience and
5013     > pretty much know business procedures from huge corporations and business
5014     > midgets and what I should expect or not.
5015    
5016     You've not demonstrated your 10 years of experience.
5017     You've just proved that killfiles are useful.
5018 root 1.387 %
5019 root 1.1 [once upon a time, when poul started gnomeicu:]
5020     gnomeicu: Rohrbruch (beim Speichern der Konfiguration)
5021 root 1.387 %
5022 root 1.1 [subject from a thread on the gcc steering commitee mailinglist when
5023     glibc-2.2 was released]
5024     Re: glibc 2.2 a fait accompli
5025 root 1.387 %
5026 root 1.1 [08:05] <JanMan> elmex: Fehlt Dir einmal Klopapier, versuche es mit GNU m4. :)
5027 root 1.387 %
5028 root 1.1 # root:0Ayj0AZhTi4O2:11272:0:99999:7:::
5029     # kma:1NXgYu6J80kvc:11225:0:99999:7:::
5030     # elmex:0ImdHgG2TEQAE:11273:0:99999:7: : :
5031 root 1.387 %
5032 root 1.1 <JanMan_> soll ich das ganze uber einen perl-hash erzeugen ?
5033     <schmorp> klar.. %hash->generate
5034     <JanMan_> oesi siedelt nach de: %oesi->degenerate
5035 root 1.387 %
5036 root 1.1 [From "How the mind of a php programmer works", by Marc Lehmann]
5037    
5038     (1) it works on msie 5 (alt.: netscape 4) so the code is
5039     standards-compliant.
5040     (2) an entity looks like "&" entityname ";"
5041     (2a) [conclusion] the fragment href="xxx&notes=77" doesn't contain a valid
5042     entity, so the browser must use it as is.
5043     (2b) [corollary] "<blubb>" is not a valid html element, so the browser
5044     must react according to what I assume it should do (display, ignore).
5045     (2c) in some programs I assume differently than in others.
5046 root 1.387 %
5047 root 1.1 [Oh no, Don Becker again ;)]
5048     > which one is the linksys card, so I have included the entire listing. (Is it
5049     > even listed? Perhaps this is my problem.)
5050    
5051     That's your problem.
5052    
5053     There is no PCI Ethernet device listed.
5054    
5055     Check that the card is fully inserted into the PCI slot.
5056     (If it's an ISA card, then it's not fully inserted into the PCI slot ;->)
5057 root 1.387 %
5058 root 1.1 > > sure request_module _does_not_ accept funky module names. Why allow
5059     > > people to shoot themselves (and, by extension, all other Linux users
5060     > > out there) in the foot?
5061    
5062     > I thought that was the whole purpose of Unix/Linux?
5063    
5064     True! Very true! Unix/Linux requires that the user shoot
5065     themselves in the foot. Windows automates that process and does it
5066     for the user, thus making foot shooting user friendly. :-)
5067 root 1.387 %
5068 root 1.1 > Turn on encryption, and try sending attachements > 1MB and tell me if
5069     > you see any problems, like emails sitting in /var/spool/mqueue for a day
5070     > or two until they go out. I can guarantee you will.
5071    
5072     No encryption use; and the maximal message size is 1Mb (for sanity's sake,
5073     after somebody sent a PowerPoint presentation (some 3Mb), then thought that
5074     perhaps the target didn't have PowerPoint, and sent it again with the
5075     PowerPoint package, then noticed this might not work either, and sent it
5076     _again_ with the full MS Office attached... the joys of sysadminning ;-)
5077     --
5078     Dr. Horst H. von Brand mailto:vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl
5079 root 1.387 %
5080 root 1.1 Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com> writes:
5081    
5082     > "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU> writes:
5083     >
5084     > > Arguably though the bug is in glibc, in that if it's using signals
5085     > > behinds the scenes, it should have passed SA_RESTART to sigaction.
5086     >
5087     > Why are you talking such a nonsense?
5088    
5089     [Note to self: remove kitten from keyboard before writing mail.]
5090 root 1.387 %
5091 root 1.388 [Simon Budig, nachdem er erfahren hatte, daß Lars Eilebrecht nicht wusste,
5092     daß Leerzeichen in URLs nicht erlaubt sind:]
5093     "Also, Lars, das hätte ich nicht gedacht, jetzt hast du aber jede Menge
5094 root 1.1 Gurupunkte bei mir verloren."
5095 root 1.387 %
5096 root 1.1 [amazon readers about the Annotated C Standard by Herberdt Schildt,
5097     which is much less expensive then the official version (search also for
5098     Bullschildt below ;)]
5099    
5100     "The price difference reflects the value of the annotations. At no time
5101     do the annotations clarify, enhance, or supplement the standard."
5102 root 1.387 %
5103 root 1.1 Stefan Traby wrote:
5104     >
5105     > On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 08:43:04AM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
5106     >
5107     > > We have a few websites floating around, [...]
5108     >
5109     > Many mirrors are also out of sync. Especially the primary server :)
5110 root 1.387 %
5111 root 1.1 > This happens with both ext2 and reiserfs, since at least 2.2.15.
5112    
5113     I installed noflushd on my laptop, which was running 2.4.0-test6, and
5114     it did the same thing.
5115    
5116     Sorry I can't offer more info. Someone spilt a glass of water on it about
5117     a week ago. :(
5118    
5119     --Jack
5120 root 1.387 %
5121 root 1.388 "Kalk hat diese Waschmaschine getötet"
5122 root 1.387 %
5123 root 1.1 [It is] best to confuse only one issue at a time.
5124     -- K&R
5125 root 1.387 %
5126 root 1.1 <elmex> JanMan: "||01:42:20|| <elmex> schmorp: jo, die sprache muss man nicht erklaeren"
5127 root 1.387 %
5128 root 1.1 [please kids, don't try this at home]
5129     indent -kr -l78 -lc78 -lps -i8 -br -pcs -psl -bbo -bad -bap -cs -nbc -nhnl -nss
5130 root 1.387 %
5131 root 1.1 http://www.attrition.org/gallery/ms/kmfms.jpg
5132 root 1.387 %
5133 root 1.1 [PApp.pm]
5134     $modules => { "" => "" };
5135 root 1.387 %
5136 root 1.388 Das einzig sichere Mittel gegen Migräne ist das Entfernen des Kopfes.
5137 root 1.387 %
5138 root 1.1 <JanMan> elmex: Sprichwort "Relaye doch bei dnx, dann kriegst Du nix." :)
5139 root 1.387 %
5140 root 1.1 [From Russel Coker's .sig]
5141     > --
5142     > If you can't program in C, PERL, and shell scripts then don't call yourself a
5143     > Unix administrator. Every idiot on the net is claiming to be a Unix admin. :(
5144 root 1.387 %
5145 root 1.1 [the two sides of the medal]
5146     From: "David Schwartz"
5147    
5148     > Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was increased from
5149     > 100 to 10000, the time to check for active sockets with poll()
5150     > increased by a factor of only 6.5. That's a sublinear increase in time,
5151     > pretty spiffy.
5152    
5153     Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was decreased from 10,000
5154     to 100, the time to check for active sockets with poll() decreased by a
5155     factor of only 6.5. Shouldn't it be more like 100? Sounds like Solaris' poll
5156     implementation is horribly broken for the most common case.
5157 root 1.387 %
5158 root 1.1 [lukas grunwald...]
5159 root 1.388 [ich sag' dir, ] ... am nächsten Tag brüllt der mich vielleicht per e-mail an ...
5160 root 1.387 %
5161 root 1.1 [from linux-kernel, about the rtl8139 network card]
5162     > (After looking at the specification for the 8139, I am acctually ashamed
5163     > of having bough one.
5164    
5165     Not an uncommon thought :)
5166 root 1.387 %
5167 root 1.1 From: Stefan Traby
5168    
5169     Hi Marc !
5170    
5171     keycode 115 = ISO_Next_Group
5172     keycode 116 = ISO_Prev_Group
5173     keycode 117 = ISO_Level3_Shift
5174    
5175     Finde ich witzig, man erspart sich den lock-screensaver :)
5176 root 1.387 %
5177 root 1.1 [I hope you get the point(s)...]
5178     From: Alex LIVINGSTON <alex@agsm.edu.au>
5179     Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:12:46 +1100
5180     To: <tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov>
5181    
5182     At 07:40 +0000 2000-10-06, ken@halcyon.com wrote:
5183     >But the thing is: mm/dd/yy[yy] is in widespread use (US), as is
5184     >dd/mm/yy[yy] (much of Europe, I'm told).
5185    
5186     Slight refinement: dd/mm/[yy]yy. Used in all European countries - and
5187     all countries colonized by a European country at one time or another
5188     which haven't had a strong US influence since, and probably all
5189     remaining Asian, African, and Pacific countries - that don't use
5190     [yy]yy-mm-dd. mm/dd/yy[yy] is restricted almost entirely to the US
5191     and a few neighbors. I would hesitate to say it is in widespread use.
5192    
5193     >[yy]yy-mm-dd was used
5194     >in Japan even before the ISO standard came out.
5195    
5196     And in China, and in Sweden, and in Hungary, ... (possibly with different
5197     separators). Also in the Arab world, in the sense that the digits (all of
5198     them) appear in the same order from left to right, only Arabic is written
5199     right to left.
5200    
5201     >But no culture
5202     >has ever used [yy]yy-dd-mm format, and there is absolutely
5203     >nothing to recommend it, so there is no reason to expect anyone
5204     >to adopt it. Yes, the perverse can use that format just to
5205     >confound us, but in practice one can safely assume that a
5206     >nnnn-nn-nn date is in yyyy-mm-dd format.
5207    
5208     Thanks Ken. You've put it much better and more concisely than I could have.
5209    
5210     --Alex
5211 root 1.387 %
5212 root 1.1 [recently, on the tulip driver mailing list]
5213     From: Donald Becker <becker@scyld.com>
5214     To: "Jon.Hinks" <Jon.Hinks@berkeley-ifa.co.uk>
5215    
5216     [most of the reply snipped...]
5217    
5218     > The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It
5219     > may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than this addressee, nor may
5220     > it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Berkeley
5221    
5222     [[ The rest of the boilerplate omitted. ]]
5223    
5224     These terms do not apply. You have mailed to a published list. You hold
5225     the copyright to your writings, but by submitting questions to the list you
5226     grant the list publisher (me) the right to publish in this list and related
5227     forums. "Related forums" may be collected archives of the list on any media,
5228     and quotes from questions in FAQs.
5229    
5230     (Long boilerplate appendages like this notice annoy me. Automatically
5231     attached copyright notices can never unilaterally extend your rights, so why
5232     try to claim that they do?)
5233 root 1.387 %
5234 root 1.1 On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Andre Hedrick wrote:
5235    
5236     > void go_take_a_dump (float load)
5237     > {
5238     > if (pull_down_pants() && purge_bowles() && wipe_anus() && pull_up_pants())
5239     > flush(load);
5240     > else
5241     > wear(load);
5242     > }
5243    
5244     But here you make another classic mistake. Consider the case where
5245     purge_bowels() fails (-EWOULDBLOCK?).
5246    
5247     In that case, you don't actually execute the subsequent two procedure
5248     calls, which I'm sure we all agree is a suboptimal state of affairs.
5249    
5250     --
5251     dwmw2
5252 root 1.387 %
5253 root 1.1 Factoid: 90% of all patents are never challenged, while 80% of those that
5254     are are overturned.
5255 root 1.387 %
5256 root 1.1 "Going into court is throwing the dice."
5257 root 1.387 %
5258 root 1.1 [Dipl. Ing. W******* D*******]
5259     "Lukas, eins muss dir klar sein, die ganze Kryptographie ist doch
5260 root 1.388 für den Arsch, wenn ich ein Stück von dem Originaltext habe und den
5261     verschlüsselten Text, knack' ich dir jeden Schlüssel in 50 Stunden."
5262 root 1.387 %
5263 root 1.1 [some discussion between reiserfs enthusiasts:]
5264     Stefan: oh shit, everything coredumps, I'll just reboot.
5265     Marc gives some dumb comments.
5266     Stefan: No, I'll first check it with reiserfsck.
5267     Marc: Yeah.. and?
5268     Stefan: "reiserfsck: no reiserfs found"
5269     Marc: Oh, the superblock is damaged. Maybe you should just try the backup superblock...
5270 root 1.387 %
5271 root 1.1 [t-online is just sooo cool:]
5272     Subject: mail failed, returning to sender
5273     From: <MAILER-DAEMON@fmrl01.sul.t-online.de>
5274    
5275     |------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------|
5276     <service@t-online.de> ... 550 Mailbox quota exceeded / Mailbox voll.
5277     |------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------|
5278 root 1.387 %
5279 root 1.1 [a play with a well-known-signature:]
5280     Deadlock, n.:
5281     Deceased Rasterman.
5282 root 1.387 %
5283 root 1.1 [Jeff Williams & friends]
5284     ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-bremen.de/pub/doc/internet-drafts/draft-terrell-ip-spec-ipv7-ipv8-addr-cls-00.txt
5285     http://IPv8.vrx.net/
5286     http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08030.html
5287 root 1.387 %
5288 root 1.1 [some .signature]
5289     This message has been ROT-13 encrypted twice for extra security.
5290 root 1.387 %
5291 root 1.1 [Andreas Mueller-Maghun for ICANN!]
5292     Allein der Kandidat des Chaos-Computer-Clubs (CCC) Hamburg, der schon
5293 root 1.388 mehr als 1.100 Unterstützungserklärungen erhalten hat, dürfte nach
5294     Einschätzung des arbeitskreises die Bedingung für eine Basiskandidatur
5295     zum ICANN-Direktorium schon jetzt erfüllen. Ausgerechnet er hat es aber
5296     nicht für nötig gehalten, auf die Anfrage der Behindertenvertreter zu
5297 root 1.1 reagieren. Seine Webseiten zeugen zudem von einem "Sicherheitskonzept",
5298     das Usern mit Sehbehinderung vor lauter technischen Barrieren keine
5299 root 1.388 Zugangsmöglichkeiten bietet. Der Arbeitskreis hält einen Vertreter solcher
5300     Positionen für unwählbar.
5301 root 1.1
5302     Jens Bertrams (Pressesprecher)
5303 root 1.387 %
5304 root 1.1 From: (Albert Y. C. Lai)
5305     Newsgroups: comp.lang.functional
5306     Subject: Re: what is "functional" (Re: Macros)
5307    
5308     Jerzy Karczmarczuk writes:
5309    
5310     > Their opinion: "well, *everybody* knows that this is not professional,
5311     > nobody uses functional languages, all your colleagues suggest that we
5312     > should learn Lex and Yacc, etc. -
5313     > but *WHAT A PLEASURE AND FUN* was to write these programs in Haskell.
5314     > Almost no run-time errors, ever!"
5315    
5316     A professor at my school got the opposite opinion from her students.
5317     She introduced ML (along with two other languages) as part of a course
5318     on the principles of programming languages in the third year. The
5319     students' opinion: this is such an annoyingly pedantic language, it
5320     refuses to let me run my program and get some partial though wrong
5321     results simply because I make a mistake!
5322    
5323     In other words, given that humans are bound to make mistakes, the
5324     students at my school prefer to see them manifested as run-time
5325     errors.
5326    
5327     So I look at your email address. Ah, you are in Europe and I am in
5328     North America. I guess that's why. Dijkstra is probably right about
5329     European programmers liking to do programming right and American
5330     programmers liking to chase after bugs.
5331 root 1.387 %
5332 root 1.1 On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:15:09PM +0200, Werner Almesberger wrote:
5333     > yodaiken@fsmlabs.com wrote:
5334     > > This call shifts delivered signal numbers up so that
5335     > > "special" POSIX signals [.. like KILL] can be delivered to a process.
5336     >
5337     > Kind of a SIGOVERKILL ... yes, that could work.
5338 root 1.387 %
5339 root 1.1 "The posix programmer knows the availability of everything, but the cost
5340     of nothing."
5341 root 1.387 %
5342 root 1.1 [after the linux-kernel list was moved to a new machine]
5343     Jeffrey Hundstad wrote:
5344     >
5345     > So tell us about this new machine. OS? Filesystem? Memory?
5346     > CPU?
5347    
5348     Root password? :)
5349    
5350     John.Fulmer
5351 root 1.387 %
5352 root 1.1 I think there is a world market for about five computers.
5353    
5354     Thomas J. Watson (Chairman, IBM) 1943
5355 root 1.387 %
5356 root 1.1 > NO. They can/will use RAW_IO *IF* this is available to them. If not, they
5357     > will have to provide a proper kernel driver for their hardware. I know
5358     > which I prefer...
5359    
5360     Sure. And keep that dusty 2.4.3 kernel around just in case you someday need
5361     to upgrade the firmware for your disk, and the (binary!) kernel module only
5362     works with that one. Don't forget the 2.4.15ac12 which is for your USB
5363     scanner, and also the 2.6.7-12 (Red Hat) which is the only one with the
5364     updater for the new SCSI controller.
5365     --
5366     Horst von Brand
5367 root 1.387 %
5368 root 1.1 [de.comp.lang.iso-c++]
5369    
5370     >Nicht alles was Standard ist, muss auch implementiert werden.
5371    
5372     [...]
5373    
5374     Nicht alles, was hinkt, ist ein Vergleich.
5375 root 1.387 %
5376 root 1.1 [Drew Sanford about why not to do real-time by throwing faster hardware
5377     at your problem:]
5378    
5379     The F4 Fantom fighter. The plane was essentially a large block of metal, with
5380     a few advantagously aerodynamic surfaces, and big f****** engines. If you
5381     had engine trouble in a Fantom ...you had trouble.
5382 root 1.387 %
5383 root 1.1 [Hans Reiser, on /bin/cp.. ;)]
5384     cp is inherently inefficient.
5385 root 1.387 %
5386 root 1.1 >I thought disk drives contained vacuums, thus the extensive concern over
5387     >breaking seals on them.
5388    
5389     Air pressure is 1Kg/cm^2. I have never seen a hard drive case that looked
5390     nearly strong enough to take such pressure. Basically if you can't jump on a
5391     hard drive then it's not strong enough!
5392    
5393     ...
5394    
5395     There's a story that Dave Cutler (VMS and WNT architect) when he was at DEC
5396     did a test on a DEC hard drive by blowing cigar smoke into the drive which
5397     killed it properly. DEC then greatly enhanced their drive air filters. It
5398     could be just an urban myth though.
5399    
5400     Russell Coker
5401 root 1.387 %
5402 root 1.1 >I've unsubscribed our somewhat less than intelligent friend.
5403     >Ah, Internet for the masses. What a wonderful idea.
5404    
5405     Yeah, let's have an IQ test before you're allowed to buy a modem.
5406 root 1.387 %
5407 root 1.1 On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 02:40:33PM +0200, Marc Lehmann wrote:
5408     > "Yury Yu. Rupasov" wrote:
5409     > > All my current benchmarks show that reiserfs works correctly on
5410     > > deleting.
5411     >
5412     > Just a sidenote: you don't test correctness with benchmarks :(
5413    
5414     Wrong. Yury does.
5415     :(
5416    
5417     --
5418     Stefan
5419 root 1.387 %
5420 root 1.1 "Jeff V. Merkey" writes:
5421     > I will provide a tool that decodes and repairs NTFS volumes to those
5422     > folks who run into this problem, but our agreements with Microsoft do
5423     > not allow us to distribute it for any purpose other than to assist
5424     > Microsoft customers who have corrupted drives. Also, this tool is
5425     > dependent on the DDK being present to run as it has dependencies on the
5426     > DDK DLL's, so you'll need to install the DDK to use it.
5427    
5428     DDK == "Disk Death Kit"?
5429    
5430     Ian Soboroff ian@cs.umbc.edu
5431 root 1.387 %
5432 root 1.1 [very instructional movie, if you get what I mean...]
5433 root 1.388 00:30-02:05 (13) ( -35) Kabel 1 Das Mädchen am Ende der Straße The
5434 root 1.1 Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane Psychodrama - KAN/F/USA - 1976 -
5435 root 1.388 Regie: Nicolas Gessner * Die 13-jährige Rynn (Jodie Foster) lebt allein in
5436     einer alten Villa und hütet ein schreckliches Geheimnis.
5437 root 1.387 %
5438 root 1.1 [Einsichten in die "Kommunikation"]
5439     > > > Ich beschreibe dir, was in dem Moment an Eindruecken durch meinen
5440     > > > Kopf geht - in dem Augenblick bin ich Besucher und sehe was
5441     > > > mir gefaellt oder nicht - das ist wie ein Schmierzettel. Die
5442     > > > Ausarbeitung der Ideen kommt danach im Gespraech. Du packst solche
5443     > > > Sachen anders an - das seh ich ein. Aber ich bin mit dieser
5444     > > > Art chaos bisher immer ans Ziel gekommen. Was ich mach will -
5445     > > > machen muss - ist Feedback generieren. Ich lass Versuchsballons
5446     > > > aufsteigen und schau zu, wie sie entweder fliegen oder abgeschossen
5447     > > > werden. Dann reagier ich auf das Ergebnis.
5448 root 1.387 %
5449 root 1.388 [Mitch, als Erklärung dafür, weshalb er blindlings ein (kaputtes) ssh-rpm
5450     installiert hat, das er über rpmfind gefunden hat:]
5451     Doch, echt! Der Server war trusted, der sah' ja sowas von vertrauenswürdig
5452 root 1.1 aus!
5453 root 1.387 %
5454 root 1.1 [IMHO one of the main reasons linux is nicer]
5455     http://www.cyberport.com/~tangent/ix/bsod-story.html
5456 root 1.387 %
5457 root 1.1 [On the reality of random numbers]
5458     > /dev in a world with dynamic hardware, so why bother? We only need
5459     > to provide random numbers to fill in struct stat. (zero works)
5460     Alan Cox [as usual ;)]
5461 root 1.387 %
5462 root 1.1 [Flame Warriors]
5463     http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
5464 root 1.387 %
5465 root 1.1 A programmer who hasn't been exposed to all four of the imperative,
5466     functional, objective, and logical programming styles has one or
5467     more conceptual blindspots. It's like knowing how to boil but not
5468     fry. Programming is not a skill one develops in five easy lessons.
5469    
5470     --tom
5471 root 1.387 %
5472 root 1.1 To: bugs@gimp.org
5473     X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 105
5474    
5475     Hi there, I recently downloaded your gimp toolkit. At first I was having
5476     problems until I read your download help tip. I understand I have to compile
5477     it so I tried using Borland C++ Compiler but it said the line length exceeds
5478     editor capacity. Is there any other compiler I can use that wouldn't rip a
5479     whole in my wallet. Thank you for your support.
5480 root 1.387 %
5481 root 1.1 ["General Information About Using VBScript with Outlook"]
5482     VBScript is designed to be a secure programming environment. It
5483     lacks various commands that can be potentially damaging if used in
5484     a malicious manner. This added security is critical in enterprise
5485     solutions.
5486    
5487     http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q167/1/38.ASP
5488    
5489     [Despite this "added security", however, VBscript still can modify,
5490     rename, delete files, modify windows registry entries and send email in
5491     the background]
5492 root 1.387 %
5493 root 1.1 [Phil Agre on the "ILOVEYOU" virus and Microsoft's reaction]
5494     Scott Culp of Microsoft Public Relations, excuse me, I mean Microsoft
5495     Security Response Center:
5496    
5497     This is a general issue, not a Microsoft issue. You can write a
5498     virus for any platform. (New York Times 5/5/00)
5499    
5500     [and later]
5501     Mr. Culp also says this (CNET 5/5/00):
5502    
5503     This is by-design behavior, not a security vulnerability.
5504    
5505     [Phil closes]
5506     Microsoft shouldn't be broken up. It should be shut down.
5507    
5508     [See also http://dlis.gseis.ucla.edu/people/pagre/rre.html]
5509     [and http://commons.somewhere.com/rre/2000/RRE.notes.and.recommenda6.html]
5510 root 1.387 %
5511 root 1.1 [Bruce Schneier about the "ILOVEYOU" virus]
5512     Expect even worse in the future. Systems running either Microsoft Office
5513     2000 or Internet Explorer 5.0 can be infected with these sorts of viruses
5514     even if the recipient doesn't open the attachment. That's right; if the
5515     system is running Internet Explorer with the default settings, it is
5516     vulnerable. The problem is caused by a programming bug in an Internet
5517     Explorer ActiveX control. Thank you, Microsoft.
5518 root 1.387 %
5519 root 1.1 >Reaching to Fallingbostel was extremely amusing though, germany is
5520     >splitted into two halfs, one that doesn't know Fallingbostel and one
5521     >that 'heard of this place but have no idea where it is' at some point I
5522     >was almost convinced that there is no such place :)
5523    
5524     [Trashey / Quasars]
5525 root 1.387 %
5526 root 1.1 Tom Christiansen writes:
5527     > I'm writing perlrtfm. It explains search techniques, not quickfix
5528     > switches plugging bursting dykes by springing more leaks.
5529    
5530     Irony potential in
5531    
5532     man perlrtfm
5533    
5534     is left to the reader.
5535    
5536     Nat
5537 root 1.387 %
5538 root 1.1 Do you plan to release support for on-the-fly file and directory compression
5539     and encryption as in NTFSv2?
5540    
5541     (Imagine a system that in order to run needs a diskette or CD-ROM disk with
5542     private key - protection never seen except in movies ;-)
5543 root 1.387 %
5544 root 1.1 [Telekom-Techniker, bei einer ISDN-UK0-Messung!]
5545     Ich: Also, einen Layer-1-Connect bekomme ich...
5546     Telekomiker: Layer-1? Was ist das? Aber ich bekomme ja auch gar kein Freizeichen...
5547 root 1.387 %
5548 root 1.1 "I love the way Microsoft follows standards. In much the
5549     same manner that fish follow migrating caribou."
5550     Paul Tomblin
5551 root 1.387 %
5552 root 1.1 [recently on p5p]
5553     >I am morally
5554     >convinced that map() was written based on grep()
5555    
5556     Considering they use the same op function, I'd say that's a distinct
5557     possibility...
5558    
5559     Dan
5560 root 1.387 %
5561 root 1.1 [after the "Welle Erdball" performance on the Mekka&Symposium 2000:]
5562 root 1.388 <jan> bine: du solltest da nicht hingucken, das ist nicht gut fürn kopf
5563 root 1.1 <Bordeaux> after listening to this crap, and hearing *zugabe zugabe* i finally have the proof that all german c64 sceners are gay :)
5564     <Mr> zugabe
5565 root 1.387 %
5566 root 1.1 "Why upon hearing his arguments I changed my opinion 360 degrees."
5567     Recent comment on the floor of some state legislature
5568 root 1.387 %
5569 root 1.1 DIVIDE EMPLOYEE-EARNINGS BY EMPLOYEE-HOURS GIVING EMPLOYEE-PAY-RATE
5570     [cobol, *sigh*]
5571 root 1.387 %
5572 root 1.1 It is expected that the Multics system will be published when it is
5573     operating substantially and will therefore be available for implementation
5574     on any equipment with suitable characteristics. Such publication is
5575     desirable for two reasons: First, the system should withstand public
5576     scrutiny and criticism volunteered by interested readers; second, in an
5577     age of increasing complexity, it is an obligation to present and future
5578     system designers to make the inner operating system as lucid as possible
5579     so as to reveal the basic system issues.
5580    
5581     Corbat_ & Vyssotsky 1965
5582 root 1.387 %
5583 root 1.1 "Rule #7: Silence is not acquiescence.
5584    
5585     "Contrary to what you may have heard, silence of those present is
5586     not necessarily consent, even the reluctant variety. They simply
5587     may sit in stunned silence and figure ways of sabotaging the plan
5588     after they regain their composure."
5589    
5590     -- Paul Rinaldo
5591     [see also http://people.qualcomm.com/karn/rinaldo.html]
5592 root 1.387 %
5593 root 1.1 On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 12:09:59AM +1000, Chris wrote:
5594     >
5595     > In case you guys havn't noticed...
5596     >
5597     > http://slashdot.org reports that XFS is now released.
5598    
5599     Yes, and http://www.freshmeat.net reports:
5600    
5601     Error: Unable to connect to MySQL Server ().
5602    
5603     ;-}
5604    
5605     --
5606    
5607     ciao -
5608     Stefan
5609    
5610 root 1.387 %
5611 root 1.1 > The 'hypervisor' is a new term to me.. Are you refering to the
5612     > Transmeta CPU and it's native mode? If I read you correctly
5613    
5614     No its what the S/390 VM is often called. Its a supervisor for supervisor
5615     mode programs so illogically enough its a hypervisor 8). The IBM mainframe
5616     guys thing this kind of set up is routine. Unix is met with
5617     'You mean you cant run a new kernel on test at the same time as the old
5618     one' type remarks.
5619     [Alan Cox]
5620 root 1.387 %
5621 root 1.1 Godwin's Law
5622    
5623     As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
5624     involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
5625    
5626     [see also http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/]
5627 root 1.387 %
5628 root 1.1 ["Stefan im IRC."]
5629    
5630     [01:53:07] <coda> anyone know how to get emacs to stop creating the file.name~ files?
5631     [01:53:24] <JanMan> alias emacs=vi
5632     [01:53:31] <coda> haha
5633 root 1.387 %
5634 root 1.1 [remaining problems with OpenBIOS]
5635     Our SDRAM sizing and init code is not very good; we could use good code.
5636     The code we've been offered so far requires memory to work (oops!);
5637     requires a stack (oops!); or assumes a totally configured machine (oops!).
5638 root 1.387 %
5639 root 1.1 [Alan Cox on wether special fs's should have require "//" in their path]
5640     > No :-) It's a feature. Some things are going REAL ugly without such things.
5641    
5642     Given //ipc or freebsd, I think I'd pick freebsd. Thats how ugly the idea
5643     is to me ok.
5644 root 1.387 %
5645 root 1.1 "The code is self documenting." -- The Programmer.
5646    
5647     "I don't read C." -- The Tech Writer.
5648 root 1.387 %
5649 root 1.1 [Stefan Sebolth, on the CeBIT, while listening to the original c64 "Giana Sisters" tune:]
5650     Haaach, da war die Welt halt noch in Ordnung!
5651 root 1.387 %
5652 root 1.1 Remember, never ask a geek "why";
5653     just nod your head and back away slowly...
5654 root 1.387 %
5655 root 1.1 The thought of implementing something like text and binary modes for
5656     files is a about a frightening for todays kernel developer's as a mouse
5657     to a women in a typical movie of the 50's ;-)
5658    
5659     Ralf
5660 root 1.387 %
5661 root 1.1 It may be real, but it's icky. It's too traditional Unix ``I don't
5662     care if we lose 90% of our market base to NT if our competitor loses
5663     95% of THEIR market base!'' to be palatable.
5664    
5665     david parsons
5666 root 1.387 %
5667 root 1.1 ["some time ago on p5p"]
5668     > ($host) = gethostbyname('localhost');
5669    
5670     >Sadly most UNIX boxes don't add a sane alias to their /etc/hosts file
5671     >so that trick is not portable.
5672    
5673     % grep localhost /etc/hosts
5674     127.0.0.1 localhost
5675    
5676     --tom
5677 root 1.387 %
5678 root 1.1 ["some time ago on p5p"]
5679     On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:22:05PM -0700, Tom Christiansen wrote:
5680     > >But given that most slip drivers I have seen for OS/2 do not do this,
5681     > >the question is moot.
5682     >
5683     > I'll send you a free Unix system.
5684    
5685     Thanks, the doors in my house are well-balanced. ;-)
5686    
5687     Ilya
5688 root 1.387 %
5689 root 1.1 [Elliott H Mitchell on the reiserfs list]
5690     > Me thinks if unwillingness to use tar over dump will stop you from
5691     > using a better filesystem there will be lots of other reasons that
5692     > will stop you from trying anything new too. So it is not really worth
5693     > trying.
5694    
5695     Yeah, if a filesystem randomly lost files and the authors had no plans to
5696     fix it, that would kind discourage one from using it...
5697 root 1.387 %
5698 root 1.1 [Russel Coker on the reiserfs list]
5699     ... my old Thinkpad 380XD (Pentium-233 with 3.2G ide hard drive) running
5700     ReiserFS and exporting the file system over 10baseT Ethernet could
5701     outperform local hard drives on an AIX machine running JFS.
5702 root 1.387 %
5703 root 1.1 [Peter Mattis, author of GIMP]
5704     I can't say anything about Rasterman because I've never looked at any of
5705     his code. My only comment about Raster is that he should learn to spell.
5706 root 1.387 %
5707 root 1.1 [David Schwartz on linux-kernel]
5708     > ORBS does not do ANYTHING above try to send few LEGAL
5709     > strings to mailservers with LONG delays. So if you block ORBS you deserve
5710     > blocking :-)
5711    
5712     That's not the point. The point is that ORBS claims to be a list of
5713     validated open mail relays, and it's not. It's not supposed to be a list of
5714     people who deserve anything in particular. I'm sure if you talk to the
5715     people who have chosen to block ORBS, you will find that they have their
5716     reasons.
5717    
5718     DS
5719 root 1.387 %
5720 root 1.1 [WDR, 19991216 Fernsehen mit Manuel]
5721 root 1.388 Es ist ein Fall bekannt, bei dem sich ein Patient über ein Jahr lang
5722 root 1.1 geweigert hatte, auf die Toilette zu gehen. Dann haben seine Verwandten
5723 root 1.388 und Ärzte ihn dazu überreden können, endlich die Toilette aufzusuchen. Er
5724 root 1.1 hat dabei auf einmal 37 Liter entleert.
5725    
5726     Danach lebte er noch ganz normal einige Jahre, bis er, wie in Amerika
5727 root 1.388 üblich, erschossen wurde.
5728 root 1.387 %
5729 root 1.1 > - My Maxtor 27G drive ends up in PIO mode (non-SMP system, but likely
5730     [...]
5731     > Last time I reported this, I had a WDC31600, as hda, and the maxtor as
5732     [...]
5733    
5734     You committed a mortal sin in ATA............
5735     You never ever mix WD and Maxtor..........on day I will document why.
5736     Basically these two vendors have timings that are completely incompatable
5737     with each other on the same channel.
5738    
5739     IMHO, WD is crap..........however, you may split the two pieces of
5740     hardware and they will work fine under linux and all other OS's.
5741    
5742     This rule of "never ever mix WD and Maxtor" is OS independent.
5743 root 1.387 %
5744 root 1.1 [ALF2-Benutzerhandbuch]
5745     "Nur eine tote Festplatte ist eine sichere Festplatte."
5746 root 1.387 %
5747 root 1.1 Physicists write FORTRAN in any language.
5748 root 1.387 %
5749 root 1.1 [OpenBOOT 3.10.6 response to pressing "Ctrl-Alt-Del":]
5750     ANY word at all is a candidate.
5751     USE words to see the entire dictionary.
5752     ok
5753 root 1.387 %
5754 root 1.1 [SDF for POD Users]
5755     ... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - even Lisp has it's fans. :-)
5756 root 1.387 %
5757 root 1.1 <Xach> schmorp: i haven't been doing any gimpy things lately
5758     <schmorp> xach: well, who is doing gimpy things lately :(
5759     <Xach> schmorp: Mitch
5760     <schmorp> xach: ok.
5761     <Xach> schmorp: you are not keeping pace with the other germans
5762     <Xach> schmorp: you must work more diligently! FOCUS!! DON'T TALK!!
5763     <Xach> burrito, focus
5764     <Burrito> FOCUS you BABOON!
5765 root 1.387 %
5766 root 1.1 [Paul Miller]
5767     ... I find Knuth's attitude to be far more logical: "Be careful about
5768     using the following code -- I've only proven that it works, I haven't
5769     tested it." ...
5770 root 1.387 %
5771 root 1.1 Intel Inside -- Idiot Outside!
5772 root 1.387 %
5773 root 1.1 Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
5774    
5775     Bart Lateur wrote in message <383a4712.942513@news.skynet.be>...
5776     >Petrus Prawirodidjojo wrote:
5777     >
5778     >>So we must compete with Windows CE.
5779     >
5780     >"Please wait while your Toaster shuts down."
5781     >
5782     >"My microwave oven hangs, I have to reboot."
5783     >
5784     >No thank you. :-) I don't think Microsoft somehow can "automatically" be
5785     >the most obvious choice as a supplier of system software for embedded
5786     >systems.
5787    
5788    
5789     Quite so. Windows CE is rapidly losing what small market share they once
5790     had.
5791    
5792     --
5793     Neal Bridges
5794 root 1.387 %
5795 root 1.1 On 27 Nov 1999, sanjay Kumar wrote:
5796    
5797     > Hi folks,
5798     > i got some problem in using linux.When segmentation fault happens four five times continously OS is not working properly,insted of I remove the core dump and core dump bug ,Why?
5799     > please reply to
5800     > sanjay_rect@rediffmail.com
5801     > and sigma_btl@vsnl.com
5802    
5803     Parse error.
5804    
5805     ---
5806     Alex
5807 root 1.387 %
5808 root 1.1 From: Richard Earnshaw <rearnsha@arm.com>
5809    
5810     > Why do we really need to support compiling with -ansi when
5811     > including a non-ANSI header file in a C program?
5812    
5813     Because some vendors wouldn't recognize a C standard it if hit them. The
5814     amount of code that purports to be ANSI C code, but is in fact nothing of
5815     the sort, has to be seen to be believed.
5816    
5817     That doesn't mean that I don't want *my* program to be clean ANSI C.
5818 root 1.387 %
5819 root 1.1 [one of the few good us movies]
5820 root 1.388 Talk Radio Mediendrama - USA - 1988 - Regie: Oliver Stone * Sein Zynismus wird dem Radiomoderator Barry zum Verhängnis.
5821 root 1.387 %
5822 root 1.1 [guess the language AND the language revision ;)]
5823     ii = 44;
5824     p = &ii;
5825     *p = ii/*p;
5826     ii++; /* Don't forget to increment ii. */
5827     printf ( "ii = %d\n", *p );
5828 root 1.387 %
5829 root 1.1 > But many systems set the RTC while running Win*ooze. That will affect
5830     > Linux time then.
5831    
5832     Here is another microsoft Innovation (TM):
5833    
5834     They now allow you to run your BIOS-clock in UTC! (Just like
5835     Linux. Woops. Just gave it away...)
5836    
5837     Roger.
5838 root 1.387 %
5839 root 1.1 <Tommer> schmorp, for the next trick, do <frameset> <frame src=dataurl:> <frame src=dataurl:> </frameset> :)
5840 root 1.387 %
5841 root 1.1 auto accident;
5842     register voters;
5843     static electricity;
5844     struct by_lightning;
5845     void *where_prohibited;
5846     char broiled;
5847     short circuit;
5848     short changed;
5849     long johns;
5850     unsigned long letter;
5851     double entendre;
5852     double trouble;
5853     union organizer;
5854     float valve;
5855     short pants;
5856     union station;
5857     void check; unsigned check;
5858     struct dumb by[sizeof member];
5859 root 1.387 %
5860 root 1.1 [I like TV Movie's nexTView comments]
5861     22:40-00:05 (21) ( -34) ARD Mord auf hoher See Inflammable Thriller - USA
5862     - 1995 - Regie: Peter Werner * Stephen King
5863 root 1.388 verhunzt als Regisseur sein Buch im großen Stil.
5864 root 1.387 %
5865 root 1.1 Carmen Lucia Tancredo Borges wrote:
5866    
5867     I have a program written in Fortran that runs on an IBM RS/6000
5868     worstation.
5869 root 1.387 %
5870 root 1.1 I wrote
5871     > I hope not. chomp() should match the string in $?, no more or less.
5872     $/
5873    
5874     Damn shift key.
5875    
5876    
5877     Mike Guy
5878 root 1.387 %
5879 root 1.1 [rfc2635]
5880     The term "spam" as it is used to denote mass unsolicited mailings or
5881     netnews postings is derived from a Monty Python sketch set in a
5882     movie/tv studio cafeteria. During that sketch, the word "spam" takes
5883     over each item offered on the menu until the entire dialogue consists
5884     of nothing but "spam spam spam spam spam spam and spam." This so
5885     closely resembles what happens when mass unsolicited mail and posts
5886     take over mailing lists and netnews groups that the term has been
5887     pushed into common usage in the Internet community.
5888 root 1.387 %
5889 root 1.1 [CRYPTO-GRAM, November 15, 1999]
5890    
5891     The Doghouse: Microsoft Windows CE
5892    
5893     Microsoft encrypts your Windows NT password when stored on a Windows CE
5894     device. But if you look carefully at their encryption algorithm, they
5895     simply XOR the password with "susageP", Pegasus spelled backwards. Pegasus
5896     is the code name of Windows CE. This is so pathetic it's staggering.
5897    
5898     http://www.cegadgets.com/artsusageP.htm
5899 root 1.387 %
5900 root 1.1 : Isn't the point that (void)'grep EXPR, LIST' is now better written as
5901     : 'EXPR for LIST'? Or am I misunderstanding your point here?
5902    
5903     It really doesn't bother me if people want to use grep or map in a void
5904     context. It didn't bother me before there was a for modifier, and
5905     now that there is one, it still doesn't bother me. I'm just not very
5906     easy to bother.
5907    
5908     The argument against using an operator for other than its primary
5909     purpose strikes me the same as the old argument that you shouldn't have
5910     sex for other than procreational purposes. Sometimes side effects
5911     are more enjoyable than the originally intended effect.
5912    
5913     That being said, I'd never grep someone in a void context myself.
5914    
5915     Larry
5916 root 1.387 %
5917 root 1.1 [that one's only for insiders...]
5918     > : BASE @ . \ = 10, verified original base was restored
5919     Yeah. :-)
5920 root 1.387 %
5921 root 1.1 [comp.lang.forth]
5922     > Old Antactic Explorers Penguin Recipe:
5923     [...]
5924     > Start fire under pot, raise seawater to boiling point.
5925    
5926     Since it is very difficult to find wood on Antarctica, typically
5927     penguins are used to light the fire (due to their fat, they burn well).
5928     I also woudln't use any water, the penguins are fried fine in their own
5929     fat (you can use old fat to heat up the pot for another penguin).
5930    
5931     Note that most people in Antarctica have been seal-slayers and
5932     whale-killers, so they were rough people. Usually, they didn't bother
5933     with killing the penguins before setting them on fire. I'm glad this
5934     receipts aren't used anymore.
5935 root 1.387 %
5936 root 1.1 Sie muessen einen PC nicht einschalten um herauszufinden ob Windows
5937     installiert ist. Sehen Sie einfach nach, ob die Aufschrift auf der
5938     Reset-Taste noch lesbar ist.
5939 root 1.387 %
5940 root 1.1 > Erinnert mich an den Kerl bei mir in der Videothek. Hab mir DHY ausgeliehen
5941     > und er sagt doch zu mir: "Ist aber mit Untertiteln." Sag ich: "Na prima!"
5942     > Fragt er: "Wieso, was ist denn daran so interessant, wenn man nichts
5943     > versteht?"
5944 root 1.387 %
5945 root 1.1 [de.alt.anime]
5946     Bei meiner Videothek fliegt ein "Ghost in the Shell" Tape
5947     "Ab18" rum. Das machte mich irgendwie stutzig weil auf
5948     der Schachtel meiner 16er zwei Szenenfotos sind, die im
5949 root 1.388 Film gar nicht vorkommen (ironischer Weise direkt über
5950 root 1.1 dem "Uncut & Unzesored" Schildchen). Andererseits ist
5951 root 1.388 mir völlig schleierhaft, was es bei dem Filmchen zu zensieren
5952 root 1.1 geben soll. Nur die oben beschriebene Feststellung hat diese
5953     Frage erneut aufgeworfen.
5954     ji!
5955 root 1.387 %
5956 root 1.1 I do worry about syntactic clutter, ever since my daughter came
5957     in, looked over my shoulder, and said, "What is that, swearing?"
5958     [Larry Wall]
5959 root 1.387 %
5960 root 1.1 Der letzte untergegangene altisraelitische Stamm war der der
5961     Altpreussen.
5962     - Norbert Marzahn am 15.8.98 in
5963     de.soc.politik.deutschland
5964 root 1.387 %
5965 root 1.1 > > Aber die Theorien, die Norbert aufstellt, ueber zum Beispiel die
5966     > > gegossenen Steinformen, die sich hochdruecken, den fuerchterlichen
5967     > > Kometen, der im vergangenen August die Erde zerstoert hat und solche
5968     > > Sachen find ich wirklich Klasse ;-)
5969     >
5970 root 1.388 > Jau. Und erstmal seine Erklärungsversuche, wenn's mal wieder nichts
5971     > geworden ist (wo bleibt eigentlich der Planet X, der während der
5972 root 1.1 > Syonnenfinsternis auftauchen sollte?)...
5973    
5974 root 1.388 Drei Tage Dunkelheit und viele Trümmerteile sollte er bringen, gell,
5975 root 1.1 Norbert?
5976 root 1.387 %
5977 root 1.208 Marzahnismen: http://www.bruhaha.de/normarz.html
5978 root 1.1 Norbert Marzahn sagt: Ich besitze die Mittel, um
5979     "Rechts"- und "Links"-Radikalismus auszuloeschen.
5980 root 1.387 %
5981 root 1.1 http://welcome.to/levitenbuero/
5982 root 1.387 %
5983 root 1.1 <Xach> babelfish.pitney.org: "We may not get it right, but boy are we fast!"
5984 root 1.387 %
5985 root 1.1 Subject: GNU compiler
5986     From: "Steve"
5987     Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:05:03 -0400
5988     To: <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
5989     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0
5990    
5991     [the following was a single line, of course]
5992     I downloaded the compiler and am trying to install it and the
5993     instructions seem to be very complicated. Can you help me understand
5994     how to install them? There is no setup file and I have downloaded from
5995     several sites in the thought that I might have the wrong version. Your
5996     assistance would be greatly appreciated
5997    
5998     Thanks,
5999    
6000     Steve
6001 root 1.387 %
6002 root 1.1 [an "I am doing high end graphic design" type of person:]
6003     > Also, could someone tell me how to calculate DPI of an image? I have not
6004     > managed to figure this DPI system out, for example, if an image is a
6005     > 100?50 pixels, what's the DPI??
6006 root 1.387 %
6007 root 1.1 <tigert> xachbot, op
6008     <XachBot> tigert: I have an 88 magnum. It shoots through schools.
6009     <tigert> ahem
6010 root 1.387 %
6011 root 1.1 <tc> xachbot, acro FOOBAR
6012     -XachBot:#gimp- FOOBAR: FTP Operation Over Big Address Records | See FUBAR [Net jargon] (cached)
6013     <tc> just when you thought you had something to baffle xachbot
6014 root 1.387 %
6015 root 1.1 [the release of perl 5.000]
6016     Date: Mon, 17 Oct 94 16:48:04 -0700
6017     From: Larry Wall <lwall@scalpel.netlabs.com>
6018     Subject: It's soup.
6019    
6020     Okay, it's there.
6021    
6022     ftp://ftp.netlabs.com/pub/outgoing/perl5.0/perl5.000.tar.gz
6023    
6024     The first one who tells me about a bug in it gets shot.
6025    
6026     Larry
6027 root 1.387 %
6028 root 1.1 l33+ h4X0rz
6029 root 1.387 %
6030 root 1.1 # A random text generator using Markov chains
6031     perl -e 'while(<>){$f.= $_}@l=split(/\s+/, $f);for($i=0;$i<@l-1;$i++){$W{$l[$i]
6032     }.=" ".$l[$i+1];}sub a{$w=$l[1]}&a;sub b{print "\n"}while($w){if(!($W{$w})){&b;
6033     &b;&a;last if ($q++>3);}print"$w ";@p=split(/ /,$W{$w});$c=@p;until($s=int(rand
6034     ($c))){1}$w=$p[$s]}&b' big_text_file
6035 root 1.387 %
6036 root 1.1 > && d'oh! i knew that! can she allow her lusers to use deja? here is the url
6037     > && for the post with the whole description of how i used -P
6038     >
6039     > Well, access to deja isn't forbidden, but access to the keyboard is.
6040     > And there's no mouse.
6041     >
6042     > Abigail
6043    
6044     Wow. Someone else who reads usenet by osmosis... cool.
6045    
6046     Matt.
6047 root 1.387 %
6048 root 1.1 Ok, our threads aren't so bad. Python's have one big
6049     giant global interpreter lock. :-)
6050    
6051     - --tom
6052 root 1.387 %
6053 root 1.1 From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
6054     Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:42:19 -0700 (PDT)
6055    
6056     On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Hubert Mantel wrote:
6057     >
6058     > So the huge ISDN update in proposed-2.2.11 will be removed from the final
6059     > 2.2.11 release?
6060    
6061     [ Irritated mode: FULL BLAST ]
6062    
6063     Are you being stupid on purpose, or were you born that way?
6064    
6065     Go back and read the thread. Read why I'm irritated. READ. THINK.
6066 root 1.387 %
6067 root 1.1 Understanding is a three edged sword. Do you *want* to get the point?
6068 root 1.387 %
6069 root 1.1 ["MVS uses quite heavy algorithms for swapping"]
6070     On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 07:55:32PM +0200, Lieven Marchand wrote:
6071     > Last time I looked at it, it got to the point they had moved some
6072     > ASSISTs into microcode. IIRC, some manipulations of the process
6073     > block. I doubt Intel/Sun/MIPS/IBM is going to accomodate Linux quite
6074     > that much ;-)
6075    
6076     IBM is really really good on process technology. They have had to be.
6077 root 1.387 %
6078 root 1.1 MVS spends a lot of time running OS algorithms to allow full
6079     preemption that Linux wastes on running user applications.
6080 root 1.387 %
6081 root 1.1 [comments on the gcc-2.95 release]
6082     <QUOTE>
6083     I'm having problems compiling it for HP-UX 10.20. Any ideas?
6084    
6085     (I haven't actually finished downloading it yet, but I just know I'm
6086     gonna have problems with this crappy OS ;-)
6087     </QUOTE>
6088 root 1.387 %
6089 root 1.1 The Internet interprets Windows as damage,
6090     and routes around it.
6091    
6092     Roger Larsson
6093 root 1.388 Skellefteå
6094 root 1.387 %
6095 root 1.1 [configuring gcc]
6096     Noone should use --prefix=/usr without --with-local-prefix=/usr/local
6097 root 1.387 %
6098 root 1.1 'You can solve any programming problem with another level of indirection,
6099     except the problem of too many levels of indirection.'
6100 root 1.387 %
6101 root 1.1 [http://www.itknowledge.com/tpj/issues/vol4_1/tpj0401-0015.html]
6102    
6103     Z-code interpreters have also been written in Java; unfortunately, when it
6104     comes to cross-platform compatibility, Java's user-interface classes are
6105     finicky and unstable--just ask anyone who's tried to reason with the AWT
6106     on different JVMs.
6107    
6108     [and later]
6109    
6110     Pilfer is a practical implementation of two of the cardinal rules of
6111     adventure gaming:
6112    
6113     1.Anything that is not nailed down is mine.
6114     2.Anything that I can pry loose is not nailed down.
6115 root 1.387 %
6116 root 1.1 [the ||-operator can be thought of as "or", && can be thought of as
6117     "and", but how would you call the ??-operator?]
6118    
6119     >>>>> "NK" == Nathan Kurz <nate@valleytel.net> writes:
6120    
6121     NK> ?? -> huh?
6122    
6123     That's a great name. The huh? operator.
6124    
6125     <chaim>
6126 root 1.387 %
6127 root 1.1 `One of the reasons we continue to use Fortran is that it's easier to fix
6128     code written without attention to such details in Fortran than in other
6129     languages. To put it another way, Fortran is the only language where
6130     people who barely get by with their numerical skills can "write useful
6131     numerical code." Many times those people are the only experts in their
6132     specialty available to put a needed procedure into practice.'
6133 root 1.387 %
6134 root 1.1 [Moderator der Sending "Teatime" auf "Radio Okerwelle", 1999-07-12]
6135 root 1.388 Ich muß schließlich hören was ich sage, damit ich weiß, was ich denke.
6136 root 1.387 %
6137 root 1.1 [Dr. Dobbs #8, 1999, describing how you can AVOID downloading or executing
6138     Java applets, scripts and ActiveX controls while _parsing_(!) an html
6139     page]
6140     ... you must utilize IOleControl::OnAmbientPropertyChange with the
6141     value DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Before you can do this, however, you
6142     must call IOleObject::SetClientSite so that IOleControl will work
6143     properly. This is the reason you derive from IOleClientSite, even
6144     though you don't extend its functionality in any way. After the call to
6145     OnAmbientPropertyChange, IE4 will call your Invoke method to check the
6146     value of DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Invoke simply sets the correct bits to
6147     disable the behaviour you don't want and returns NOERROR.
6148     [Still interested in knowing how you can disable the "file not found"
6149     dialog box that will pop up when you try to parse a non-accessible file?]
6150 root 1.387 %
6151 root 1.1 [Linus, whom I quote rarely ;-]
6152     Message passing as the fundamental operation of the OS is just an
6153     excercise in computer science masturbation. It may feel good, but you
6154     don't actually get anything DONE.
6155 root 1.387 %
6156 root 1.1 Advantages of Windows NT over Linux:
6157     * It's easier to explain the crash was not your fault.
6158     * You've to remember only one solution all to your problems: Reboot.
6159     * You can use your mouse to type an email-message.
6160 root 1.387 %
6161 root 1.1 > 1) On the PIII, there is the capability to get a system unique serial
6162     > number from the CPU. Does Linux read this data already? Is there plans to
6163     > read the serial number and then disable the capability (maybe so you could
6164     > get the serial number from the OS)?
6165    
6166     Current Linux disables it and doesn't save the value.
6167 root 1.387 %
6168 root 1.1 [CRYPTO-GRAM 1999-06-15]
6169     "Microsoft set the security state-of-the-art back 25 years with DOS, and
6170     they have continued that legacy to this day."
6171 root 1.387 %
6172 root 1.1 [From "The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature", by Thomas Scoville]
6173     "In a world increasingly dominated by image culture (TV, movies, .jpg
6174     files), UNIX remains rooted in the culture of the word."
6175 root 1.387 %
6176 root 1.1 > If it is clearly documented that will not happen.
6177    
6178     Yeah, sure. Unfortunately, if the "correct" treatment of this feature
6179     means to change a dozen source files (and rth's comments make me fear
6180     that that's the case), the chance that someone, somewhere forgets to say
6181     exactly why these changes were necessary (and on what other changes in
6182     other files they depend) is far larger than I want to consider. We've
6183     seen this before. Lucky we are that some long time gcc-hackers are
6184     still among us, who might remark: Oh yes, that's undefined by the C
6185     Standard, but it happens to be an extension gcc supports ... Seen that,
6186     got the T-shirt.
6187 root 1.387 %
6188 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
6189     From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
6190     Date: Fri, 4 Jun 99 10:00:16 PDT
6191     To: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
6192     Cc: craig@jcb-sc.com, jbuck@Synopsys.COM, mark@codesourcery.com,
6193     davem@redhat.com, chip@perlsupport.com, egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
6194     X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
6195    
6196     Linus writes, to Craig:
6197    
6198     > I haven't maintained a compiler long-term. I _have_ maintained a larger,
6199     > and arguably mode complex system with many more degrees of freedom and
6200     > thus choices than gcc.
6201    
6202     No, gcc is substantially larger than the Linux kernel (on the order of 10x
6203     larger, as anyone can easily verify). gcc does not need to deal with race
6204     conditions, so in that sense it is simpler, but in other respects it is
6205     far more complex than the kernel.
6206    
6207     [NOTE for the reader: this is not really true, as the device drivers
6208     bomb the comparison away, but the complexity argument still holds]
6209    
6210     [ personal insults deleted, perhaps the author is in need of a vacation ]
6211 root 1.387 %
6212 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
6213     From: craig@jcb-sc.com
6214     To: torvalds@transmeta.com
6215    
6216     >I want the _user_ to be able to give input.
6217     [...]
6218     >I happen to think that the "explicit cast invalidates the alias
6219     >information" rule is the simplest and best one, and gives the user the
6220     >best control without adding things like new attributes or other ways to
6221     >let the user be in control.
6222    
6223     In other words, you believe you are a better language designer than
6224     the ISO C people as well as the gcc maintainers, despite the fact
6225     that you know, what, *nothing* about language design, and *nothing*
6226     about compiler design and, especially, long-term maintenance of
6227     compilers?
6228 root 1.387 %
6229 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
6230     From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
6231    
6232     Linus writes:
6233     > Oh, you don't expect me to complain about bad code generation when I know
6234     > gcc could do better?
6235    
6236     Oh, don't worry, we expect you to complain, and in a rude and insulting
6237     matter at that. We're used to it. It seems that you were a nicer guy
6238     before you had so many worshippers.
6239 root 1.387 %
6240 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
6241     From: Branko Cibej <branko.cibej@hermes.si>
6242     Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:07:09 +0200
6243     To: egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
6244     X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I)
6245    
6246     Linus Torvalds wrote:
6247    
6248     > I think it's a damn shame that instead of technical arguments _everything_
6249     > revolves around people reading the standard as if it was the bible, and
6250     > trying to make people feel guilty for not really caring. It's not a sin to
6251     > just want to get good code without having to do magic contortions, guys.
6252    
6253     Why, Linus, it's trivial to do! Use MSVC instead of egcs, then you can do
6254    
6255     #pragma optimize("a", on/off)
6256    
6257     around every single statement, if you like. It even supports anonymous unions
6258     _and_ structs, and is only slightly influenced by the ISO C standard.
6259    
6260     They'll even sell you a version that can generate code for the alpha!
6261    
6262     >:->
6263    
6264     Brane
6265    
6266    
6267     P.S.: Just for the record: I, a "real user" and (imnsho) a "clever programmer"
6268     who "know what I'm doing", at least most of the time, and who do not "read the
6269     standard as if it were a bible", vote for having a standard-conforming
6270     compiler that's not bloated by a ton of marginally useful (or even useless)
6271     features. If I want featuritis, I know where I can get it.
6272    
6273    
6274     P.P.S: They can't even spell "optimise" ...
6275 root 1.387 %
6276 root 1.1 You can have it Soon, Cheap, and Working; choose *two*
6277 root 1.387 %
6278 root 1.1 "Scientific" studies have found that a 2.2.x Linux router with
6279     fast-switching enabled, using Tulip 100baseT cards, can melt a
6280     high-end Cisco's 100baseT interfaces.
6281 root 1.387 %
6282 root 1.1 1) Thread switching is faster than process switching by a little bit on Linux
6283     2) Process switching on linux is faster than thread switching on NT
6284     3) Almost anything is faster than process switching on NT
6285 root 1.387 %
6286 root 1.1 [gimp-developers, on the use of keyboard modifiers for drawing tools]
6287    
6288     > Simple. Powerful. Fast. Choose at most two.
6289    
6290     Perhaps this should be an option in the preferences dialog? :)
6291 root 1.387 %
6292 root 1.1 [perl is cryptic??]
6293     Subject: @{$${->{{{{~{}~{{{NO CARRIER
6294     From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@iki.fi>
6295     Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:55:37 +0300 (EET DST)
6296    
6297     We have still a long way to go-- from the zsh-workers mailing list:
6298    
6299     : Just thought of a trivial way to take a lot of grief out of parameter
6300     : substitution. This patch makes the following valid:
6301     :
6302     : ${${${${(f)"$(typeset)"}:#*local *\=*}%%\=*}##* }
6303     :
6304     : replacing the equivalent but grotesquer
6305     :
6306     : "${(@)${(@)${(@)${(@f)$(typeset)}:#*local *\=*}%%\=*}##* }"
6307 root 1.387 %
6308 root 1.1 Long noun chains don't automatically imply security. - Bruce Schneier
6309 root 1.387 %
6310 root 1.1 > |> Spoken as a true C programmer. However you are wrong. Case-preserving, but
6311     > |> insensitive, is the CORRECT way for file systems. Capitalization should not
6312     > |> matter for interpretation of a file name just as it doesn't matter for
6313     > |> interpreting words in any human language.
6314     >
6315     > This is wrong. In German, there is a big difference between "paar" und
6316     > "Paar" (the first meaning "a few", the second "pair").
6317    
6318     The classic example:
6319    
6320     "Ich habe liebe Genossen in Moskau" - I've got dead comreds in Moscow.
6321     "Ich habe Liebe genossen in Moskau" - I enjoyed love in Moscow.
6322 root 1.387 %
6323 root 1.1 [do we need oo-style IO::File class in perl?]
6324     >_You_ aren't gonna code "use IO::File".
6325    
6326     And there's no reason for anyone else to, either, especially
6327     once Nick finishes the Larry-blessed autovivification of
6328     lvaluabled undefs in open(), socket(), etc.
6329    
6330     What's next, a String class for Perl?
6331    
6332     --tom
6333 root 1.387 %
6334 root 1.1 [some example of the kind of mail I sometimes receive:]
6335     i was just trying to help u out not hurt you in anyway ok i have the fbi
6336     working on something for me
6337     u havent done anything to me ok and the sherriffs department came by to talk
6338     to me nutting concerning y ok
6339     piece
6340     russ
6341 root 1.387 %
6342 root 1.1 [From "Basic Information about Unix", common commands:]
6343    
6344     pico (text editor for beginners)
6345     vi (text editor for advanced users)
6346     emacs (text editor for advanced users)
6347     ed (text editor for beginners)
6348 root 1.387 %
6349 root 1.1 There is no reason in principle that a Perl script shouldn't start with
6350    
6351     use Python;
6352    
6353     and appear to work exactly like Python from there to the end of the file.
6354     Except maybe faster. :-)
6355    
6356     Larry
6357 root 1.387 %
6358 root 1.1 > Perl6 gives us an opportunity to re-examine every feature at a microscopic level.
6359    
6360     just what I'm afraid of... I thought this was to be Perl6, not Perl
6361     2010.
6362    
6363     (Perl 2010: The Spaced Oddity?)
6364 root 1.387 %
6365 root 1.1 The X.25 specification is not a particularly easy document to
6366     read. Contrary to expectations, it does not make great use of diagrams
6367     and tables that help to explain the workings of the protocols that
6368     it contains. Instead the document makes use of many ambiguous English
6369     descriptions of the actions that should take place, allied with a complete
6370     lack of fluency in its prose descriptions, make for a very confusing
6371     document. It is a wonder that any correct X.25 implementations have ever
6372     been created.
6373 root 1.387 %
6374 root 1.1 > Joe: (walking into McDonalds) Hi, I'd like a Big Mac.
6375     >
6376     > Cashier: Okay, here's your Big Mac and here's your Coke. That'll be
6377     > $3.99.
6378     >
6379     > Joe: Uh, I don't want a Coke.
6380     >
6381     > Cashier: Sorry, they're bundled.
6382     >
6383     > Joe: What? I'm not paying for a Coke!
6384     >
6385     > Cashier: You don't; the Coke is free.
6386     >
6387     > Joe: But wasn't a Big Mac $2.49 last week?
6388     >
6389     > Cashier: Sure, but this latest Big Mac is far more innovative. It's
6390     > got integrated Coke!
6391     >
6392     > Joe: I already bought a Snapple across the street... I'm not going
6393     > to drink the Coke.
6394     >
6395     > Cashier: Then you can't have the burger.
6396     >
6397     > Joe: Okay, fine, I will pay the $3.99 and throw the Coke away.
6398     >
6399     > Cashier: Oh, you can't do that. They're seamlessly integrated. Totally
6400     > inseparable.
6401     >
6402     > Joe: How can that be? They're two totally separate things!
6403     >
6404     > Cashier: No, watch. (takes Big Mac, dunks it in a tank of Coke) See?
6405     >
6406     > Joe: Why did you just do that?!
6407     >
6408     > Cashier: It's a benefit to the consumer. Otherwise you'd end up with
6409     > two different, inconsistent tastes. This way you're assured of a
6410     > continuous taste across all your foods.
6411 root 1.387 %
6412 root 1.1 Threads are like salt. I like salt, you like salt, we all
6413     like salt, but we eat more pasta than salt.
6414 root 1.40 Rob Pike
6415 root 1.387 %
6416 root 1.1 From: Nathan Torkington <gnat@frii.com>
6417    
6418     Don't be bitten by Perl, get crushed by Python.
6419     Python: Perl for the punctuation-phobic.
6420     It takes 4 days for a python to digest a hamster, but only 2 days
6421     for you to digest this book.
6422     Python: it's really better but nobody uses it.
6423     Python: just for the whitespace of it.
6424     Join The Trickle
6425     Python: more popular than Dylan!
6426     Python: not written by crackheads in a gutter!
6427     Are you uptight? Try our new Python Hangups series.
6428 root 1.387 %
6429 root 1.1 Well Microsoft announced this new language called COOL which I can
6430     honestly say that I have seen NO CRAPPY CODE written in. OTOH it appears
6431     that to achieve this miraculous status by the simple technique of being
6432     complete and utter vapourware.
6433    
6434     Microsoft, taking the Business out of COBOL.
6435 root 1.387 %
6436 root 1.1 [From "Programming Perl"]
6437    
6438     We will encourage you to develop the three great virtues of a
6439     programmer: laziness, impatience and hubris
6440 root 1.387 %
6441 root 1.1 [Alexander Stepanov, creator of the STL]:
6442    
6443     Yes. STL is not object oriented. I think that object orientedness is
6444     almost as much of a hoax as Artificial Intelligence. I have yet to
6445     see an interesting piece of code that comes from these OO people. In
6446     a sense, I am unfair to AI: I learned a lot of stuff from the MIT AI
6447     Lab crowd, they have done some really fundamental work: Bill Gosper's
6448     Hakmem is one of the best things for a programmer to read. AI might
6449     not have had a serious foundation, but it produced Gosper and Stallman
6450     (Emacs), Moses (Macsyma) and Sussman (Scheme, together with Guy Steele). I
6451     find OOP technically unsound. It attempts to decompose the world in
6452     terms of interfaces that vary on a single type. To deal with the real
6453     problems you need multisorted algebras - families of interfaces that
6454     span multiple types. I find OOP philosophically unsound. It claims that
6455     everything is an object. Even if it is true it is not very interesting -
6456     saying that everything is an object is saying nothing at all. I find OOP
6457     methodologically wrong. It starts with classes. It is as if mathematicians
6458     would start with axioms. You do not start with axioms - you start with
6459     proofs. Only when you have found a bunch of related proofs, can you
6460     come up with axioms. You end with axioms. The same thing is true in
6461     programming: you have to start with interesting algorithms. Only when you
6462     understand them well, can you come up with an interface that will let them
6463     work.
6464     [...]
6465     You can't write a generic max() in Java that takes two arguments of some
6466     type and has a return value of that same type. Inheritance and interfaces
6467     don't help. And if they cannot implement max or swap or linear search,
6468     what chances do they have to implement really complex stuff? These are my
6469     litmus tests: if a language allows me to implement max and swap and linear
6470     search generically - then it has some potential.
6471     [...] Java is clearly an example of a money oriented programming (MOP).
6472     It might be successful - after all, MS DOS was - and it might be a
6473     profitable thing for all your readers to learn Java, but it has no
6474     intellectual value whatsoever.
6475    
6476     [Later, on OMG protocols like CORBA]
6477     I am old enough to remember all the networking standards that were coming
6478     out in the seventies. Who remembers them now?
6479 root 1.387 %
6480 root 1.1 [Stiftung Warentest "test", WDR 19990419:]
6481 root 1.388 "Schlechtes muß nicht billig sein..."
6482 root 1.387 %
6483 root 1.1 [/bin/false on solaris]
6484     #!/usr/bin/sh
6485     # Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
6486     # All Rights Reserved
6487    
6488     # THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
6489     # The copyright notice above does not evidence any
6490     # actual or intended publication of such source code.
6491    
6492     #ident "@(#)false.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.3 */
6493     [obvious invocation of exit snipped to avoid lawsuit. Yup, *1* line.]
6494 root 1.387 %
6495 root 1.1 <Aspirin> but ee uses imlib, and imlib is documented to take 4.7 days to start up on a 486 by Alan Cox.
6496 root 1.387 %
6497 root 1.1 When a tar built for SunOS runs under Solaris, it's incapable of opening
6498     or creating files with "lib/locale" in the path. It replaces that part of
6499     the path with "lib/oldlocale".
6500 root 1.387 %
6501 root 1.1 [Bruce Schneier in CRYPTO-GRAM, 19990315]
6502    
6503     "Microsoft prefers to treat security holes as a public relations problem,
6504     rather than fixing the actual problem."
6505    
6506     [further down: the official answer from Microsoft about a problem where
6507     just viewing a website would invisibly run unrestricted code on your
6508     machine]
6509    
6510     "Microsoft appreciates your input regarding this issue, however in lieu
6511     of modern technology being what it is, we all need to be personally
6512     responsible for knowing what we are downloading off the internet."
6513    
6514     [see http://www.panix.com/~dfoster/sec/chrono.html]
6515 root 1.387 %
6516 root 1.1 [Steve Funston wrote to me, after I unsubscribed him from gimp-perl for
6517     spamming:]
6518    
6519     >fuck you ass hole duh you are just a big fucker
6520     >>
6521     >>An error was generated by your request to our servers:
6522     >>------------------------------------------------------
6523     >>
6524     >>Your Email: bfunston@mich.com
6525     >>
6526     >>ERROR: You are not a member of this list.
6527    
6528     [and later, misquoting my name:]
6529     >mark is not only a big fat liar but he is an ass hole.
6530 root 1.387 %
6531 root 1.1 [How much of the microsoft shares does Bill Gates hold?]
6532     He has 19.8%. Paul Allen has 5.5%. Steve Ballmer has 4.7%.
6533 root 1.387 %
6534 root 1.1 > And what's wrong with being named Peter?
6535     If linus was peter, Linux would be called penix? (just guessing) ;)
6536 root 1.387 %
6537 root 1.1 According to Microsoft KnowledgeBase article Q216641, Microsoft Windows
6538     95/98 are limited to an uptime of *exactly* 49.7 days.
6539    
6540     --found by Vincent Janelle (Random)
6541 root 1.387 %
6542 root 1.1 > Leave that to RMS.
6543    
6544     If you had just sat through the horrific panel with Larry,
6545     RMS, Richard, and Linus, you would want to leave a whole lot
6546     else to RMS -- like a couple of megatons of the manure that
6547     he's full of.
6548    
6549     Support BSD/Linux.
6550    
6551     --tom
6552 root 1.387 %
6553 root 1.1 "The FSF is a cult -- don't support them." --Rob Pike
6554 root 1.387 %
6555 root 1.1 We are Linux. Resistance is an indication that you missed the point.
6556 root 1.387 %
6557 root 1.1 > Perhaps the cracker himself (itself? ;) isn't bright enough to delete shell
6558     > history, but his shrink-wrapped cracking tools might be a lot brighter...
6559    
6560     Some of them are. A surprising number aren't. A personal favorite of
6561     mine was the log from a cracker who couldn't figure out how to untar
6562     and install the trojan package he'd ftped onto the machine. he tried a
6563     few times, and then eventually gave up and logged out.
6564 root 1.387 %
6565 root 1.1 [on channel #gimp]
6566    
6567     [msg(Xachbot)] insult me
6568     [XachBot(xachbot@home.xach.com)] schmorp: David Miller would never approve of that.
6569 root 1.387 %
6570 root 1.1 [the creation]
6571     http://www.toodarkpark.org/caffeine-cgi-bin/textfile/net-hx.txt
6572 root 1.387 %
6573 root 1.1 THE LESSER-KNOWN PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES #12: LITHP
6574    
6575     This otherwise unremarkable language is distinguished by the absence of
6576     an "S" in its character set; users must substitute "TH". LITHP is said
6577     to be useful in protheththing lithtth.
6578 root 1.387 %
6579 root 1.1 Ich zog hier nur einen Pseudoschluss aus dieser sache, den ich nicht
6580     selbst schliesse.
6581     Norbert Harry Marzahn, selbsternannter "Judaaer"
6582     am 13.12.98 in de.alt.ufo
6583 root 1.387 %
6584 root 1.1 According to Gurusamy Sarathy:
6585     > "Resistance is futile, you will be modularized."
6586    
6587     No:
6588    
6589     use Borg;
6590     make_threat(-type => 'standard', -doom => 'modularized');
6591    
6592     --
6593     Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
6594 root 1.387 %
6595 root 1.1 "And over here, ladies and gentlemen, may I draw your attention to
6596     the 'posicks box', a mechanism within one of the late 20th century
6597     sub-I hardware gestalt integration agents (then called 'operating
6598     systems', this particular one being referred to as 'windows' by
6599     its commercial-mimetic sustainer), designed so as to provide the
6600     appearance and functionality required to comply with one of the few
6601     agreed-upon integration schemas (sub-I, of course) available at the
6602     time. Unsurprising given the non-integration imperitives used by the
6603     agent's sustainter, this mechanism was demonstrated to be an ingenious
6604     non-integration ploy that, while supporting the integration schema,
6605     failed to support the local interconnect schemas that this agent
6606     specialized in. This produced a classic focus rift in the knowledge
6607     pool, benefiting the sustainer in the short run due to the focus
6608     concentration facilities available to commericial-class mimetic
6609     sustainers. Practically, this wasn't a significant loss, in the long
6610     run, as neither the 'windows' or 'posicks' schemas were relevant to
6611     modern quasi-I agents. These two do live on, however, in a few niches.
6612     'posicks' is used as the integration schema between most nano-scale
6613     logic units (a fact that only a few meta-experts still need to be
6614     aware of), and 'windows' survives, for religious-mimetic reasons, as
6615     the human-communication agent in a few stereotypical toasters and soap
6616     dispensers."
6617    
6618     [Kenneth Albanowski]
6619 root 1.387 %
6620 root 1.1 Perl ist ein Schmerzmittel.
6621     Wenn Du bei der Speicherverwaltung oder der Stringverarbeitung
6622     unter C Schmerzen hast, nimm Perl.
6623     -- Kristian Koehntopp
6624 root 1.387 %
6625 root 1.1 > Why Windows NT Server 4.0 continues to exist in the enterprise would be a
6626     > topic appropriate for an investigative report in the field of psychology or
6627     > marketing, not an article on information technology -- John Kirch
6628 root 1.387 %
6629 root 1.388 [bei einer mündlichen Nachprüfung in BWL, Uni Hamburg]
6630 root 1.1
6631     Prof: "Was ist Agio?"
6632 root 1.388 Student: "Weiß ich nicht."
6633 root 1.1 Prof: "OK, durchgefallen!
6634 root 1.388 Student: "Ich habe aber Anspruch auf drei Fragen in der mündlichen Prüfung!"
6635 root 1.1 Prof: "Klar, was ist Disagio?"
6636     Student: "..."
6637     Prof: "...und was ist der Unterschied zwischen Agio und Disagio?"
6638     Student: "..."
6639     Prof: "...durchgefallen!"
6640 root 1.387 %
6641 root 1.1 Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@pobox.com> writes:
6642    
6643     > Just morbid curiosity,
6644     >
6645     > Are there _any_ unix boxes that _can't_ build Perl?
6646    
6647     Yes. Broken ones.
6648    
6649     dgris
6650 root 1.387 %
6651 root 1.1 "The kerastion is a musical instrument which cannot be heard."
6652     -- A Borges story in ten words.
6653 root 1.387 %
6654 root 1.1 "C combines the power of assembly language
6655     with the flexibility of assembly language."
6656 root 1.387 %
6657 root 1.1 ...
6658    
6659     <AOL>
6660    
6661     Me too!
6662    
6663     </AOL>
6664    
6665     Tig
6666 root 1.387 %
6667 root 1.1 ping -p 2b2b2b415448300d <hostname>
6668 root 1.387 %
6669 root 1.1 unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck;more;yes;umount;sleep
6670 root 1.387 %
6671 root 1.1 From: Dick Balaska <dick@buckosoft.com>
6672    
6673     I sit behind an NT dual P2/400 256MB for too many hours each day. It is
6674     "slow". One of my (fun) tasks is CD mastering. When i'm loading a 500MB
6675     wav file into the editor, the machine goes useless for two minutes while
6676     loading the wave file. Basically its just reading the file and writing it
6677     to swap. The CPU is at 5%. No Alt-Tab between apps during that time. No
6678     chance of putting the mouse over a button (too many dropped ticks). The
6679     NT kernel is just sitting waiting for I/O completions.
6680    
6681     Linux would be embarrassed to be that bad.
6682    
6683     I expected M$ to never fix this because its not "broken". However, i
6684     expect billg to start reading the above mentioned literal benchmarks and
6685     get really really pissed.
6686    
6687     Especially since i believe 1999 and 2000 to see Linux *really* start
6688     to cut into M$'s server market share.
6689 root 1.387 %
6690 root 1.1 > Hello I'm wondering if there's a lower traffic mailing list that exists
6691     > that's strictly important kernel announcements and not general chat. I
6692     > need to stay informed but I can't handle 250 messages in a 24 hour
6693     > period.
6694     >
6695     > Sorry for the insignificant post..
6696     > Nic
6697     >
6698    
6699     Thank you for contributing to the problem.
6700    
6701     -hpa
6702 root 1.387 %
6703 root 1.1 grep... grep... grep... (frog with unix stuck in his throat)
6704 root 1.387 %
6705 root 1.1 "If users are made to understand that the system administrator's job is to
6706     make computers run, and not to make them happy, they can, in fact, be made
6707     happy most of the time. If users are allowed to believe that the system
6708     administrator's job is to make them happy, they can, in fact, never be made
6709     happy."
6710     - - -Paul Evans (as quoted by Barb Dijker in "Managing Support Staff", LISA '97)
6711 root 1.387 %
6712 root 1.1 From: "Daniel P. Stasinski" <dannys@KAREMOR.COM>
6713     Subject: Microsoft Hotmail
6714     To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG
6715    
6716     I contacted Microsoft/Hotmail asking them to close the account
6717     of that was listed in the backdoored tcp wrapper source code.
6718     I also forwarded the offending code.
6719    
6720     The word back from them is that they will not close it. Theft
6721     of passwords and hacking does not violate thier terms of
6722     service.
6723    
6724     Daniel
6725 root 1.387 %
6726 root 1.1 Any UNIX-killer must also have:
6727     ...
6728     * cool name like Linux (serious, these fail: GNU Hurd FreeBSD 386BSD)
6729 root 1.387 %
6730 root 1.1 "Not all things worth doing are worth doing well."
6731     It's a phrase I use a lot. :-)
6732     [RJL]
6733 root 1.387 %
6734 root 1.1 As John Whittaker says: ``It's UNIX. That doesn't necessarily mean it's
6735     right.''
6736 root 1.387 %
6737 root 1.1 [Richard Stallman on the new _Pragma operator in C9X:]
6738    
6739     Amazing--they actually listened.
6740 root 1.387 %
6741 root 1.1 That "UNIX" term is very negative. People often associate it with
6742     SCO OpenServer, Wyse terminals, and 60 people on a 386. The UNIX
6743     that people know is just awful. It looks something like this:
6744    
6745     # less foo
6746     sh: command not found
6747     # more foo
6748     sh: command not found
6749     # emacs foo
6750     sh: command not found
6751     # ed foo
6752     0
6753     help
6754     ?
6755     quit
6756     ?
6757     exit
6758     ?
6759     DIE!!!!!!!!!!
6760     ?
6761    
6762     [Albert D. Cahalan]
6763 root 1.387 %
6764 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Stop blib warning in future releases?
6765     From: andreas.koenig@anima.de (Andreas J. Koenig)
6766     Date: 05 Jan 1999 03:15:37 +0100
6767    
6768     tim> Sure. Strictly speaking
6769    
6770     tim> use blib ':quiet';
6771    
6772     tim> would be most correct in style.
6773    
6774     Only German native speakers are allowed to treat adverbs adjectively.
6775     For the rest I'd recommend [...]
6776 root 1.387 %
6777 root 1.1 [A new U.S. Law implementing a WIPO treaty]
6778     No person shall circumvent a technological protection measure that
6779     effectively controls access to a work protected under this title
6780     [Or, in other words, applied cryptanalysis will be illegal.
6781     too bad --- ]
6782 root 1.387 %
6783 root 1.1 Microsoft - Is it going to work today?
6784 root 1.387 %
6785 root 1.1 Subject: Re: [gimp-devel] GIF plugin legal issues
6786    
6787     > Actually, my understanding is that Unisys doesn't currently enforce the
6788     > licensing cost on free software, but maybe I am mistaken.
6789    
6790     The general wording, spoken by an unnamed GIMP developer, is, if you'll
6791     pardon the language, "Unisys can go fuck itself."
6792 root 1.387 %
6793 root 1.1 [once on linux-kernel:]
6794     > >who are you why on yahoo when iprint sf16fmi i fond you i need drv
6795     > Does anyone have the secret decoder ring to make sense of this?
6796     he's confused about us showing up in a search match on yahoo, but needs
6797     driver(s) for his sf16fmi thingy.
6798 root 1.387 %
6799 root 1.1 > Did you try to compile kdeadmin from the CVS tree ?
6800    
6801     No I ran the KDE binaries. Im not interested in broken programs that
6802     include wrong #include files in their source.
6803 root 1.387 %
6804 root 1.1 [unix-faq]
6805    
6806     Someday, you are going to accidentally type something like
6807     "rm * .foo", and find you just deleted "*" instead of "*.foo".
6808     Consider it a rite of passage.
6809 root 1.387 %
6810 root 1.1 "There's one word that strikes fear into nuclear scientists..."
6811     "Oops."
6812     -- MST3K
6813 root 1.387 %
6814 root 1.1 Seems like 80-bit spills would be closer to IEEE, if not close enough to
6815     claim full support. Off-hand I'd say people would be happier with
6816     those numeric properties than with the current situation.
6817    
6818     I'll think about the esoterica (probably break down and ask people here).
6819     It would certainly make gcc the most reliable x86 floating-point compiler
6820     I know. Sun's does something similar to -ffloat-store by default (gee,
6821     look at how fast that ultra is), and Microsoft's runs off the end of the
6822     stack at run-time . I don't know what Intel's does, so I'm not considering
6823     it. ;)
6824 root 1.387 %
6825 root 1.1 >I was using the localtime function to change time_t into it's various
6826     >human-readable parts. I noticed that $year gets returned as 98 and
6827     >not 1998. I tested a few different unices and got the same result.
6828     >This is expected behavior based on the examples I've seen and my own
6829     >testing. My question is how is this y2k compliant?
6830    
6831     What part of your C library's documentation on localtime(3), the perlfunc
6832     documentation on the Perl localtime function, the perlfaq4 entry on `Does
6833     Perl have a year 2000 problem?', and the Y2K document on www.perl.com
6834     did you find to be unclear on the answer to this question?
6835    
6836     --tom
6837 root 1.387 %
6838 root 1.1 > * Have you ever wondered how life began ?
6839    
6840     In a laboratory somewhere at Bell Labs.
6841    
6842     >Why does it end ?
6843    
6844     Ask the X3J11 committee.
6845    
6846     > * Can you tell WHY there is life ? What is the purpose of it ?
6847     > * Can YOU do anything to make your life worth living ? WHAT ?
6848    
6849     To promote the the DEATH OF ANSI C! K+R FOREVER! DOWN WITH PORTABILITY!
6850 root 1.387 %
6851 root 1.1 "Unix *is* Perl's IDE!"
6852     -- Tom Christiansen
6853 root 1.387 %
6854 root 1.1 [Sputnik]
6855    
6856     Do you honestly think the Americans would mention a Soviet success? :-)
6857     A number of years back I saw an exhibition in the US on the development of
6858     supersonic passenger aircraft. They forgot to mention Concorde. It
6859     wouldn't surprise me in the least if most people at NASA had never heard
6860     of Sputnik.
6861 root 1.387 %
6862 root 1.1 NTFS by default adds unnecessary serialization to an extent that
6863     even older file systems such as FFS do not, and its performance
6864     characteristics reflect that. In fairness, it should be said that it is
6865     the superior approach for most removable media without software control
6866     of ejection (e.g. IBM PC floppies).
6867 root 1.387 %
6868 root 1.1 Never attribute to malice what could as well be explained by stupidity.
6869     - Hanlons razor -
6870 root 1.387 %
6871 root 1.1 Shallit's Razor: Never attribute to conspiracy what may be adequately
6872     explained by stupidity or incompetence.
6873 root 1.387 %
6874 root 1.1 According to Chris Nandor:
6875     > I thought about creating a web interface to input, edit, delete entries,
6876     > but that would have taken me longer, been more complex and less secure, and
6877     > offered no significant advantages.
6878    
6879     That one's in the quotes file. Thanks.
6880 root 1.387 %
6881 root 1.1 My friend who had a Compaq called one day when his built-in cdrom drive
6882     stopped responding. Their answer "its a virus. Reinstal Windows". So he did
6883     (?) and it still didn't work. He called them and they said "its a virus,
6884     reinstall." "But I just installed. If there is a virus, it came from YOUR
6885     quick restore disk." "No, no virus there, but you DO have a virus. My paper
6886     in front of me says so."
6887    
6888     He took it back and bought a Gateway.
6889 root 1.387 %
6890 root 1.1 9. Deinde, ne in posterum a XII kalendas aprilis aequinoctium recedat,
6891     statuimus bissextum quarto quoque anno (uti mos est) continuari debere,
6892     praeterquam in centesimis annis; qui, quamvis bissextiles antea semper
6893     fuerint, qualem etiam esse volumus annum MDC, post eum tamen qui
6894     deinceps consequentur centesimi non omnes bissextiles sint, sed in
6895     quadringentis quibusque annis primi quique tres centesimi sine bissexto
6896     transigantur, quartus vero quisque centesimus bissextilis sit, ita ut
6897     annus MDCC, MDCCC, MDCCCC bissextiles non sint. Anno vero MM, more
6898     consueto dies bissextus intercaletur, februario dies XXIX continente,
6899     idemque ordo intermittendi intercalandique bissextum diem in
6900     quadringentis quibusque annis perpetuo conservetur.
6901 root 1.387 %
6902 root 1.1 You obviously have not dealt with Microsoft Winnt 4.0
6903     and all the Service Pack then. While one Service Pack
6904     did somewhat correct the Y2K problem was not aware that
6905     2000 was in fact a leap year. There was no way to set
6906     the date to Feb 29, 2000.
6907 root 1.387 %
6908 root 1.1 "Ernst Lehmann, die Organisationsredundanz beim Cluster-Treffen"
6909 root 1.387 %
6910 root 1.388 HP Computer NEWS 3/98 about HP 2000/CN printer (page 24): "Darüber
6911 root 1.1 hinaus ... hat der HP 2000C/CN durch den Einsatz von Intel MMX-
6912     Technologie Zugriff auf deren Farbtabellen und kann so Farbbilder
6913     schneller verarbeiten" (A mistake made when translating. It's hard to
6914     get the wrong meaning if translated back to English, sorry.)
6915 root 1.387 %
6916 root 1.1 From: Robert Lipe
6917     > > I program computers with no screens and no keyboards for a living.
6918     > > Switches and front-panels are a LUXURY! :-)
6919     >
6920     > But I guess you are not _programming_ these computers without a keyboard
6921     > and/or screen.
6922    
6923     Are you familiar with the Vulcan Mind Meld?
6924 root 1.387 %
6925 root 1.1 Subject: Re: [fwd from comp.lang.python] Re: Python 2 ideas [Re: access
6926     From: Tuomas Lukka <lukka@fas.harvard.edu>
6927    
6928     On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
6929     > use pedantic;
6930     > use strict 'code';
6931     >
6932     > or whatever is the syntax to switch Perl into 'dull'/'pythonish' mode.
6933    
6934     use syntax 'python';
6935    
6936     Let's just embrace&extend'em ;) ;)
6937    
6938 root 1.387 %
6939 root 1.1 Thus it was written in the epistle of Larry Wall,
6940     >
6941     > Having discussed all this thoroughly at the Hacker's Conference this
6942     > past weekend, I've come to the conclusion that Y2K will be traumatic
6943     > primarily because people *think* it will be traumatic. A panic is a
6944     > panic whether or not it's justified. People get trampled in panics.
6945     >
6946     > It should be illegal to yell "Y2K" in a crowded economy. :-)
6947 root 1.387 %
6948 root 1.1 [rfc1925]
6949     Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick any two (you can't have all three).
6950 root 1.387 %
6951 root 1.1 [Alan Cox, why not port hurd to sgi, instead of linux]
6952     > A possible minus is the message-passing between the servers which might
6953     > be time-consuming.
6954    
6955     "Yesterdays technology, next week" to quote an OSI saying
6956 root 1.387 %
6957 root 1.1 UNIX versions of ctags handle the C language, and often Pascal and Fortran
6958     77. Sometimes, they even handle assembly language. Almost universally,
6959     however, they do not handle C++...
6960     [from "learning the vi editor"]
6961 root 1.387 %
6962 root 1.1 > correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a thread about this a few
6963     > months back that resolved the ping -f localhost as a ping bug.
6964    
6965     Indeed, as Alan Cox said:
6966    
6967     So get a non-buggy ping(8) client.
6968    
6969     and as Ecclesiastes said:
6970    
6971     Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been
6972     already of old time, which was before us.
6973     There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any
6974     remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
6975    
6976     Regards,
6977     Tigran.
6978 root 1.387 %
6979 root 1.1 SNMP stands for Security Not My Problem
6980 root 1.387 %
6981 root 1.1 [slightly broken, though...]
6982     /* "Hello World" in B for 64-bit hardware! */
6983     hw [0] "Hello World.*n";
6984     main(){
6985     extrn hw;
6986     putchar(0[hw]);
6987     hw=+1;
6988     putchar(0[hw]);
6989     }
6990 root 1.387 %
6991 root 1.1 > So what comes first the chicken or the egg? :)
6992    
6993     The egg. Always. By definition.
6994 root 1.387 %
6995 root 1.1 > > PPS: Robert, I just made my first y2k fix to that script ;()
6996     >
6997     > Better check your scsi cables.
6998 root 1.387 %
6999 root 1.1 Arroganz durch Wissen
7000     [Dirk Jagdmann]
7001 root 1.387 %
7002 root 1.1 [Re: Pegasus - Gut oder Boese?]
7003     > Weil er sie dabei ja unterstuetzt. Da er aber (abgesehen von den ersten
7004     > ein- oder zweimal) nur auf Anrufen von Rosa-Girl erscheint, koennte man es
7005     > auch anders herum sagen. wenn CU Pfeift, kommt er angaloppiert 8))
7006    
7007 root 1.388 was aber leider bedeutet, daß usa die Rennsemmel ständig mit
7008 root 1.1 sich rumschleppen mu?. ^_-
7009     Nur weil die Kleine die Bimmel hat!
7010    
7011 root 1.388 Und wer weiß, was dieses pädophile Pferd eigentlich noch so
7012 root 1.1 bezwecken will... ^_-
7013 root 1.387 %
7014 root 1.1 >James :\
7015     >
7016     >I apologize for adding a message to this possibly trivial thread.
7017    
7018     I like your sig. I hope you use it for everything you post.
7019 root 1.387 %
7020 root 1.1 From: Mason <mason@schwanda.resnet.tamu.edu>
7021     Subject: night of the undead ip stack
7022     Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:03:19 -0600 (CST)
7023 root 1.387 %
7024 root 1.1 > The person who decides to invent UNICODE support for Linux
7025     > is just asking for a black eye.
7026    
7027     But Unicode for NT is such fun!
7028    
7029     For example, the checked DbgPrint() bluescreens above DISPATCH_LEVEL
7030     if you try to print a Unicode string--the Unicode->ASCII
7031     translation tables are marked as pageable.
7032    
7033     Since as far as I know, printk() does not have any format specifiers
7034     that cause obscure kernel panics, Linux is clearly behind in this
7035     area.
7036 root 1.387 %
7037 root 1.1 Linux: a no problem operating system for no problem people.
7038     [Lukas Grunwald]
7039 root 1.387 %
7040 root 1.1 http://dd.sh/perlfs/:
7041    
7042     THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL (PRE-ALPHA) VERSION OF THE PERL FILESYSTEM.
7043     EVEN WHEN IT LOADS WITHOUT CAUSING A KERNEL PANIC, IT WILL LOCK UP
7044     YOUR MACHINE, DESTROY ALL YOUR DATA, KIDNAP YOUR FAMILY AND
7045     (DEPENDING ON SAID FAMILY'S CONFIGURATION) SHOOT YOUR CAT, DOG, AND/OR
7046     FIRST-BORN CHILD.
7047 root 1.387 %
7048 root 1.1 [a comment on http://dd.sh/perlfs/]
7049     Forget GNU/Linux. /PerL/inux will conquer all.
7050    
7051     kill 0,1 if -x '/PerL/inux'; # request kernel mode
7052 root 1.387 %
7053 root 1.1 [Tim Hollebeek on real arithmetic]
7054     On a machine with a sane floating point model, the results make sense.
7055     For example, my SGI workstation prints:
7056    
7057     0.00000000000000011102 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000020000 1.00000000000000040000
7058    
7059     However, a machine with the Intel FPU from hell gives:
7060    
7061     0.00000000000000000005 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000
7062    
7063     due to the fact that whether 1+x and 1 are the same number depends on whether
7064     the numbers are in the FPU or not.
7065 root 1.387 %
7066 root 1.388 [Grüner Tip/Arte]
7067 root 1.1 Ihre Nachbarn sind zu laut und feiern andauernd Parties? Kein Problem, ihr
7068 root 1.388 Bohrer wird nachts um zwei spielend mit _jedem_ Lärm fertig....
7069 root 1.387 %
7070 root 1.1 Remember, eating healthy doesn't make you live longer, it just makes it seem
7071     longer...
7072 root 1.387 %
7073 root 1.1 [M$ about unix development tools like GCC]
7074     By the standards of the novice / intermediate developer accustomed to
7075     VB/VS/VC/VJ, these tools are incredibly primitive.
7076 root 1.387 %
7077 root 1.1 > > Praha is nice and our university is interesting, since it is according
7078     > > to tests most complex and impractical computer science university on the
7079     > > world :) I just love it...
7080     >
7081     > Oh well, great that I won't be studying there...
7082     >
7083     It is really fun.... just now I have lesson (that reminds me that I really
7084     should go now) about set theory and infinity... it is really fun and very
7085     practical...
7086     for example that you have cinema with infinity chairs and infinity plus one
7087     person wants to see movie... what do yo do?
7088     Just let sit down the first infinity persons and then last person ask first
7089     one to move to second chair, second one to move to third and so on and
7090     everyone fits.. isn't that great to know? :))
7091    
7092     Jan Hubicka
7093 root 1.387 %
7094 root 1.1 > template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> A {};
7095     [...]
7096     > I think that this construction is allowed by the ANSI C++.
7097    
7098     No, it is not. What you meant is
7099    
7100     template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> class A {};
7101 root 1.387 %
7102 root 1.1 Jan Dubois writes:
7103     > A) perl-5.00553
7104     > path = \perl\5.00553\bin\MsWin32-x86\perl.exe
7105     > cc = cl.exe
7106     A performance analysis compiling with M$ compiler? Get real!
7107    
7108     [...]
7109    
7110     Ilya
7111 root 1.387 %
7112 root 1.1 >Shouldn't the kernel compile with all combinations of options.
7113    
7114     Yes. Feel free to fix it and send a patch.
7115    
7116     p.
7117 root 1.387 %
7118 root 1.1 [tomc]
7119     Jean-Louis provides four arguments in favor of the overloading of the
7120     logical && and || operators. Here they are:
7121    
7122     +------------------------------------------+
7123     | Other languages, notably C++, permit it. |
7124     +------------------------------------------+
7125    
7126     This one is hardly persuasive. Many languages do innumerable things
7127     that Perl does not do. Just for example, take:
7128    
7129     * Csh reparses and re-evals interpolated strings, allowing something
7130     like C<$cmd $var> to do interesting things.
7131     * The Fortran lexer (as it were), having no need of white space to
7132     infer tokens, allows C<DO I=1.10> and C<DO I=1,10> to coexist in an
7133     interesting way.
7134     * Icon has an entirely different notion of success and failure,
7135     allowing expressions like (X < Y < Z) to do interesting things.
7136     * Scheme has call-with-continuation, allowing co-routines to do
7137     interesting things.
7138     * C++ has template classes with abnormal typing rules even for that
7139     language, allowing parameterized meta-classes to do interesting
7140     things.
7141 root 1.387 %
7142 root 1.1 Make is like Pascal: everybody likes it, so they go in and change it.
7143     --Dennis Ritchie
7144 root 1.387 %
7145 root 1.1 perl -wlpe '}{$_=$.' file # Count the number of lines.
7146 root 1.387 %
7147 root 1.1 [not quite duff's device, but...]
7148    
7149     switch (x)
7150     default:
7151     if (prime(x))
7152     case 2: case 3: case 5: case 7:
7153     process_prime(x);
7154     else
7155     case 4: case 6: case 8: case 9: case 10:
7156     process_composite(x);
7157 root 1.387 %
7158 root 1.1 Is there any truth to the rumor that the number appearing
7159     after the words "Microsoft Windows" is the minimum amount of memory,
7160     in megabytes, required for execution?
7161    
7162     Craig Milo Rogers
7163 root 1.387 %
7164 root 1.1 Mark Mielke writes:
7165     > This statement is false. The simple fact that school textbooks teach it
7166     > to be indeterminate should be enough to convince you of that.
7167    
7168     This is just another reference point about the state of education in
7169     US (apparently in Canada too?).
7170    
7171     Ilya
7172 root 1.387 %
7173 root 1.1 [from p5p]
7174     > Now you know why threading is experimental and all, buddy.
7175    
7176     Experimental schexperimental. Anything that doesn't cause an
7177     immediate coredump is not experimental. :-) (Observant readers will
7178     note that this is a more rigorous standard than Microsoft's.)
7179    
7180     Nat
7181 root 1.387 %
7182 root 1.1 Needless to say, Linux awk is probably gawk, which has been taking too
7183     much steroids for a while. =)
7184    
7185     --Albert Dvornik
7186     <bert@genscan.com>
7187 root 1.387 %
7188 root 1.1 Subject: Re: zero width lookbehind considered slow
7189     From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@jhereg.perl.com>
7190     Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:40:37 -0500
7191    
7192     >*You* do not understand? Perl is slow...
7193    
7194     Ilya: You are formerly invited to go play in the python
7195     or tcl crowd instead of here.
7196    
7197     --tom
7198 root 1.387 %
7199 root 1.1 >What's it? Can linux be improved too? Or has it already been improved?
7200    
7201     Linux has never done anything so stupid in the first place.
7202    
7203     Linus
7204 root 1.387 %
7205 root 1.1 On the 8th day god created email. And got noted the world was good. Then the
7206     devil added HTML mail...
7207 root 1.387 %
7208 root 1.1 linux/lib/vsprintf.c: * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds fucked it up :-)
7209     linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/binfmt_aout32.c: /* Fuck me plenty... */
7210     linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/ptrace.c:/* Fuck me gently with a chainsaw... */
7211 root 1.387 %
7212 root 1.1 On 1998-10-11T02:37:57,
7213     Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> said:
7214    
7215     > Believe me Microsoft think Linux is a threat now. Its level with things like
7216     > java in their perceived threat list, so you can expect all the usual MS
7217     > techniques to start coming this way and very soon.
7218    
7219     Arm the gnus!
7220 root 1.387 %
7221 root 1.1 [David Miller after (another) endless discussion with Richard Kenner]
7222    
7223     Anyways, I tired (just like everyone else) of arguing endlessly with
7224     you, you're in the past, you no longer constrain my ability to improve
7225     gcc, so go away.
7226 root 1.387 %
7227 root 1.1 I received my copy of Visual Studio 6.0 today. I couldn't believe that it
7228     wanted to install the C++ compiler into a directory called:
7229    
7230     "\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98"
7231    
7232     But anyways, I just had to find out if it was finally possible to compile
7233     Perl (without PERL_OBJECT) with optimization (-O2).
7234 root 1.387 %
7235 root 1.1 [on perl version numbering]
7236     > So it could be 5.006 for the developers, but "ThreadPerl" or "Perl with
7237     > Multithreads" (or some such) for the journalists, if that's what
7238     > journalists need to make them pay attention.
7239    
7240     Down that path lies "Perl version 5.006, codename `Ticklish Uvula',
7241     was released today" madness.
7242 root 1.387 %
7243 root 1.1 [on perl version numbering]
7244     > elaine> 5.1 would be a good thing(tm) as it would draw attention,
7245     > elaine> etc. in a way that a developers versioning would. The
7246     > elaine> world is not populated by people who think the same
7247     > elaine> way. To that end, this would be a good change. Of course,
7248     > elaine> we could call it Perl99.
7249     >
7250     > To me, Perl seems to be recognized for it's language qualities, not
7251     > for marketing reasons. IMHO, perl may keep this difference with other
7252     > wintel product. More than that : Perl99, would let believe people that
7253     > it is not Y2K proofed, or still in beta (<1.00). So it's not a good
7254     > marketing name, anyway.
7255    
7256     Right. Then, to be Y2K compliant, we'll have to call it Perl1999. Hmmm.
7257     "The year perl left earth's orbit"? Maybe we need to get the NASA guys to
7258     put perl on the next low-cost spaceshot.
7259    
7260     Of course, then c.l.p.m's motto could be "We do not commit *mindless*
7261     violence..." :-)
7262 root 1.387 %
7263 root 1.1 Rule 1 says that Larry says that Larry has the last say, unless he changes
7264     his mind in which case he still has the last say.
7265 root 1.387 %
7266 root 1.1 > >I never said it did.. I should have said: Binary only drivers encourage
7267     > >poor drivers
7268     >
7269     > No it doesn't.
7270    
7271     Indeed. Its down to
7272    
7273     Profit = (units * margin) - overhead
7274    
7275     and the folks who decide "overhead" arent the programmers but the management.
7276     The folks who say "you have two weeks allocated to write this driver, then
7277     we ship it" are the folks to take the issue up with, and that goes source
7278     or binaries.
7279 root 1.387 %
7280 root 1.1 dig txt leap.yp.to
7281 root 1.387 %
7282 root 1.1 "The fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that nobody's after me..."
7283 root 1.387 %
7284 root 1.1 [linux-kernel on endianess issues with NIPQUAD]
7285    
7286     |> Do I read this correct?!? Is it more acceptable to have a bug[*],
7287     |> than a not optimal fix?!?!?
7288     |>
7289     |> s/optimal/stupid/
7290    
7291     What's stupid is little endian. <g>
7292    
7293     Andreas.
7294 root 1.387 %
7295 root 1.1 [Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
7296     ...
7297     A closely related question is `What is 1 minute before 23:59:60?''.
7298    
7299     Here's a good one: `What is 1 month before 1 February 1995 in
7300     Kiritimati?''. There was no 1 January 1995 in Kiritimati; they
7301     skipped a day by moving the clocks ahead 24 hours. Similar issues
7302     arise when asking about times that occur within smaller, more typical
7303     UTC offset changes. A number of obscure questions arise here, and I'm
7304     not sure it's worth standardizing all the answers.
7305 root 1.387 %
7306 root 1.1 [D.J.Bernstein on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
7307    
7308     Paul Eggert writes:
7309     > which I am calling the `modified TIME_TAI''
7310    
7311     Your time differences break down near leap seconds. Ever watched xntpd
7312     try to handle a leap second? Wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble.
7313 root 1.387 %
7314 root 1.1 For binary only drivers you can assume most vendors will build x86 only
7315     however.
7316    
7317     "We don't have the tools"
7318     "We can't support a non intel build"
7319     "We don't have that sort of machine"
7320     "Its not worth the time cost"
7321     "Whats an Alpha ?"
7322 root 1.387 %
7323 root 1.1 On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote:
7324    
7325     > The original message was received at Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:39:56 -0400
7326     > from mini [10.0.0.3]
7327     >
7328     > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
7329     > <mailproc@fred>
7330     >
7331     > ----- Transcript of session follows -----
7332     > procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
7333     > procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
7334     > procmail: can't load library 'libc.so.5'
7335     > 554 <mailproc@fred>... unknown mailer error 16
7336 root 1.387 %
7337 root 1.1 > Here is the difficulty with this discussion:
7338     > No documented problem
7339     > No reason to believe that the "solution" solves the unspecified "problem"
7340     > No clear understanding of the effects of this change on the system
7341     >
7342     > Why, this could be a discusion among AIX developers!
7343 root 1.387 %
7344 root 1.1 > This would be a reasonable committee-like compromise that might
7345     > satisfy neither of us (:-).
7346 root 1.387 %
7347 root 1.1 By default Microsoft has set Explorer to use gz files as VRML, you need to
7348     change the association for .gz / vrml from "start vrml program" to "always ask"
7349    
7350     dave
7351 root 1.387 %
7352 root 1.1 On 10 Aug 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
7353     DG> You're not programming MS-DOS applications are you?
7354    
7355     BP> Hell no. I wouldn't touch MS-DOS with a ten-foot network cable.
7356 root 1.387 %
7357 root 1.1 [Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
7358    
7359     Date: 10 Oct 1998 15:35:05 -0000
7360     From: "D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>
7361    
7362     Paul Eggert writes:
7363     > * 29 February if it's a leap lear, 28 February otherwise.
7364    
7365     If that's 1 month before 31 March, then what's 1 month before 30 March?
7366     1 month before 29 March?
7367    
7368     The same as 1 month before 31 March.
7369    
7370     1 month before 28 March?
7371    
7372     28 February.
7373    
7374     And what's 1 month after 28 February? 1 month after 27 February? 1 month
7375     _before_ 27 February?
7376    
7377     28 March, 27 March, and 27 January.
7378 root 1.387 %
7379 root 1.1 Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
7380    
7381     >Nils Goesche wrote:
7382     >> So make a security check first:
7383     >>
7384     >> if (status = UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK)
7385     >> launch_full_counterstrike();
7386     >
7387     >Hmmm. The way the worlds been going lately, AI wouldn't trust that code to
7388     >do the job. Here's the revised version:
7389     >
7390     >if(status == UNDER_NULEAR_ATTACK); /* Corrected dangerous
7391     > = instead of == error*/
7392     > launch_full_counterstrike();
7393     >
7394     >Now isn't that much more reliable?
7395     >
7396     >--
7397     >Email: cyrand@hotmail.com
7398    
7399     The following variant is less reliable but much safer:
7400    
7401     if (status == UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK); /* Correct dangerous
7402     launch_full_counterstrike (); = instead == error */
7403 root 1.387 %
7404 root 1.1 It is even more cheerful than that. Not so long time ago a customers
7405     of ours totally destroyed his NT installation on Alpha.
7406    
7407     He found on a manufacturer page, no money - for a download, "NT driver"
7408     for his particular piece of a hardware. So he followed instructions
7409     to the letter - "Installation Wizzard" and all that crap - and the thing
7410     happily installed clobbering, as it is customary in these circles,
7411     essential system libraries with its own versions. The catch was that
7412     this driver was for NT/Intel and these bozos did not even bother to
7413     check for an architecture or at least mention something in some blurb.
7414     Ooops! No chance even to try to boot anymore.
7415    
7416     The saving grace was that the installation was rather new, so loses
7417     were not big, and he had an opportunity to practice an essential skill
7418     of re-installing Windows NT. Ah, and yes, this was the only NT driver
7419     available for that hardware from any source.
7420     What do you plan on doing? Using a PA system for networking? :)
7421     Whats next? A *Smell* modem? It would bring a new meaning to packet
7422     sniffing!
7423 root 1.387 %
7424 root 1.1 "I'd rather spend 10 hours reading source code than 10 minutes on a
7425     technical support line that isn't"
7426 root 1.387 %
7427 root 1.1 [from linux-kernel]
7428     `This code fills 8 million seats, we therefore decide what's standard.''
7429 root 1.387 %
7430 root 1.1 [...]
7431     And especially with new machines users have a lot of clout. Several UK
7432     suppliers now carry Buslogic cards partly because they got fed up of
7433    
7434     "I'd like to order a dual PII/300, 256Mb of RAM, 17" monitor
7435     4 4Gig IBM disks, and a buslogic scsi controller"
7436     "We dont do buslogic only adaptec"
7437     "Nothing else"
7438     "Sorry"
7439     [Click]
7440    
7441     Alan
7442 root 1.387 %
7443 root 1.388 Fünfzig Prozent der Amerikaner wurden in ihrer Kindheit sexuell mißbraucht,
7444     während weitere fünfzig Prozent von Außerirdischen entführt wurden.
7445 root 1.387 %
7446 root 1.1 > Let's not forget that this is just an informal, free
7447     > software project. Unlke the US House of Representatives
7448     > we do not yet posess nuclear capability (certain RTEMS
7449     > users excepted, of course!).
7450    
7451     Hmmm, if some RTEMS users have nuclear facilities attached to their
7452     systems, they might be well advised to be careful using FORTRAN as
7453     their language of choice. The comp.lang.fortran FAQ states (with
7454     concurrence from resident X3J3 members) that "using a non-standard
7455     construct might start WW III, if the necessary (optional) hardware
7456     is installed"
7457    
7458     [Toon Moene in private discussion]
7459 root 1.387 %
7460 root 1.1 Newsgroups: alt.config
7461    
7462     L. Harris wrote:
7463     >
7464     > Testing
7465    
7466     you failed.
7467 root 1.387 %
7468 root 1.1 Roswell {Unit 6 of 5 Sam Borg} Coverup [Rev. joWazzoo - well mannered despammer]
7469     <JOWazzoo@WhiteICE.com> at We are Sam Borg Spam Assimilators Ltd. - Area 51 HQ
7470 root 1.387 %
7471 root 1.1 Perl is really designed more for the guys that will hack Perl at least
7472     20 minutes a day for the rest of their career. TCL/Python is more a
7473     "20 minutes a week", and VB is probably in that "20 minutes a month"
7474     group. :) -- Randal Schwartz
7475 root 1.387 %
7476 root 1.1 > alternative, when it comes to stability and power...Not to mention the
7477     > fact that bugs and fixes are very quickly available and don't come in
7478     > 18MB+ "Service Packs" :).
7479    
7480     What, you mean you _paid_ for service pack '98?
7481 root 1.387 %
7482 root 1.1 We got this INTERNET because we whan't more information ( to learn ) now it
7483     seem's people can't handle what they see. You say freedom is a mater of
7484     choice (well it is) you have the freedom to choose to carry your butt some
7485     where else...
7486 root 1.387 %
7487 root 1.1 Steve Orzel (phloam@vol.com) wrote:
7488     [...]
7489     : The purpose of the newsgroup is to help out other people that have questions
7490     : about a certain topic.
7491 root 1.387 %
7492 root 1.1 Mark Robinson wrote:
7493     >
7494     > Does any have any source code to games that I can have? Does anybody
7495     > know where I can get game sources(legally)?
7496    
7497     Here's the trial version of the three-room text adventure I'm going to
7498     write. I'm not finished yet, though.
7499    
7500     void main (void)
7501     {
7502     printf ("You are in a dark room.\n");
7503     printf ("\n");
7504     printf ("You feel a sharp pain.\n");
7505     printf ("You have died.\n");
7506     printf ("\n");
7507     printf ("!!! GAME OVER !!!");
7508     }
7509    
7510     (Don't tell, but I took some of the code from Quake.)
7511    
7512     --
7513     John Kugelman. kugelman@mnsinc.com
7514 root 1.387 %
7515 root 1.1 [mail I got after releasing a zip-password cracker, the second biggest
7516     mistake I ever made]
7517    
7518     From: "Tom Miller"
7519     Subject: Can
7520     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
7521    
7522     Hay man can you send me some hacking tips and tricks please
7523     send to kymmiller@bigpond.com
7524     my name is Tom Miller
7525    
7526     From: "Tom Miller"
7527     Subject: Wait
7528     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
7529    
7530     Hey man its Tom can you also send me any easy systems to hack and the
7531     passwords also send me any infomation about hacking websites thank you
7532 root 1.387 %
7533 root 1.1 From: lm@bitmover.com (Larry McVoy)
7534    
7535     [...] then think a little before flaming. Or better yet, produce something
7536     better. Flaming is easy but it is basically masturbation without the orgasm
7537     so why bother? [...]
7538 root 1.387 %
7539 root 1.388 Günter Höns <guenter.hoens@gmd.de>
7540 root 1.1
7541     Newsgroups: de.alt.ufo
7542    
7543     Offensichtlich ist noch keinem das Wasser-Wachstum aufgefallen, das sogar
7544     jeden Tag geschieht. Jeden Tag waechst der Wasserberg im Meer um mehrere
7545     Meter, ist dann naeher an der Sonne und verdunstet dann. Sogenannte
7546     Wissenschaftler haben eine abenteuerliche Theorie ueber den Einfluss des
7547     Mondes auf dieses Wachstum aufgestellt, aber inzwischen wissen wir es
7548     besser: Die Wasser-Molekuele werden von Neutrinos getroffen, und verdoppeln
7549     sich dann.
7550 root 1.387 %
7551 root 1.1 CRASH(8)
7552     no fs
7553     A device has disappeared from the mounted-device table.
7554     Definitely hardware or software error.
7555    
7556     Unix Version 7 Manual
7557 root 1.387 %
7558 root 1.1 On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Larry Wall wrote:
7559     >
7560     > Maybe Pi looks like this:
7561     >
7562     > =for C
7563     > i++; /* add 1 to i */
7564     > =end
7565     > =for C++
7566     > i.value() += 1; // add 1 to i, probably
7567     > =end
7568     > =for Java
7569     > system().foo().bar().i().value().please().increment(); // ???
7570     > =end
7571     >
7572     > :-)
7573 root 1.387 %
7574 root 1.1 > > USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW!
7575 root 1.387 %
7576 root 1.1 [on linux 2.1.111]
7577    
7578     The horrid underlining which was a feature with the monochrome Linux vt's on
7579     the previous two releases of the kernel has gone. Unfortunately, so has the
7580     cursor. A couple of brief experiments didn't result in me finding a way to
7581     turn it on.
7582 root 1.387 %
7583 root 1.1 [...]
7584     its a true story, it happend this weekend in a nice country
7585     between Belgium (wellknown for its Dutroux-case) and Germany
7586     (wellknown for its Bratwurst), lets call it the Lowlands...
7587     [...]
7588 root 1.387 %
7589 root 1.1 I get a sense of god-like proportions when I patch /dev/kmem with dd(1).
7590    
7591     Chad C Giffin
7592 root 1.387 %
7593 root 1.1 [usenet, an anology]
7594     Mary Green's car was smoking. She got worried. "Whatever should I do?"
7595     worried Mary... Well, as she drove along she noticed a florists shop. "Aha!
7596     Thought Mary, "Flour shops are full of thoughtless men who need to apologize to
7597     their wives. These men are the sometimes the same ones I see swearing under
7598     the hoods of their cars in the shade of a tree."
7599    
7600     "Brrring" said the bell of the door to the flower shop as Mary poked her head
7601     through the door.
7602     "HELP!!! MY CAR IS SMOKING!" Screamed Mary.
7603     "There is a garage right next door." Said the shopkeeper.
7604     "That's right," Said Melvin, "And there is a parts store across the street. If
7605     you ask for Fred, he's pretty savvy about that kind of stuff."
7606     Now Joe was also in the flower store. This was his first time in trouble, so
7607     he did not hear the 30 or 40 people per day who came in screaming about their
7608     cars smoking (mostly men, of course -- the ones under the shade trees,
7609     usually.)
7610    
7611     "Why don't you help the stinking lady!!" Screamed Joe. "It might be your
7612     muffler bearings..." he continued. Or maybe it's your deisel glow plugs or
7613     your tire pressure..."
7614     Now Tim, also new to the flower shop felt the courage to chime in, "Or it could
7615     even be your cooling system. Sometimes a hose gets a crack."
7616     "My car smoked once and it was an oil leak, where the head gasket was spraying
7617     oil in the manifold." Hollered Larry
7618     "Hey lady, why don't you get your car the patch if it's smoking" chortled Glen.
7619     Well, the hollering went on into the evening, and the lady finally went to the
7620     gas station and found that the heater core had a tiny split and was repaired in
7621     three days for a cost of $175.23.
7622 root 1.387 %
7623 root 1.1 > Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
7624    
7625     Sicher, das macht der Inzest, und die Isolation!:)
7626 root 1.387 %
7627 root 1.1 > Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
7628    
7629     Stimmt, deswegen waren sie wohl auch die ersten, die Hitler hinterherliefen...
7630     :-(
7631 root 1.387 %
7632 root 1.1 >Mt 24,34 Wahrlich, ich sage euch: Dieses Geschlecht wird nicht vergehen, bis
7633     >dies alles geschieht.
7634     >Und es verging nicht.
7635    
7636     So what?
7637    
7638     Ich dachte eher an:
7639    
7640     " 'Und sein Wabbel wird an einer Lanze aufgespiesst', wiederholte der
7641     Oberste Groesste Meister grimmig. Im Hintergrund knarrte etwas, als
7642     Bruder Pfoertner versuchte, das klemmende Portal zu oeffnen. 'Sind wir
7643     jetzt alle soweit? Befinden sich vielleicht noch andere Unwissende
7644     unter uns,die sich verirrt haben?' fuegte er mit aetzendem Sarkasmus
7645     hinzu. 'Gut. Wunderbar. Ich bin ja _so_ froh. Vermutlich brauche ich
7646     nicht zu fragen, ob die vier Wachtuerme geschlossen sind, oder? Oh,
7647     ausgezeichnet. Hat sich jemand die Muehe gemacht, der Heiligen Hose
7648     die Beichte abzunehmen? Ach, tatsaechlich? Auf die richtige Art und
7649     Weise? Und wenn ich nachsehe? Na schoen. Sind vor den Fenstern die
7650     roten Kordeln des Intellekts gespannt worden? Gut. Nun, dann koennen
7651     wir jetzt vielleicht beginnen.' ".
7652    
7653     Terry Pratchett, "Wachen! Wachen!", S. 15f
7654    
7655     Antje
7656 root 1.387 %
7657 root 1.1 [....]
7658    
7659     Da muss ich ja, obwohl ich beinahe meinen Humor verloren haette, leise
7660     grinsen. Ich darf zusammenfassen: Du bringst uns keine Beweise, weil Du 1.
7661     zu arm und 2. zu sehr ausgelastet mit der Rettung der Welt und der Zukunft
7662     und so bist. Ausserdem brauchst Du keine Beweise, weil sich Dein
7663     Gedankengebaeude nach eingehender Nabelschau als selbsttragend erwiesen hat.
7664     Finde ich gut! Akzeptiert!
7665    
7666     Da will ich nicht weiter stoeren,
7667    
7668     Antje
7669 root 1.387 %
7670 root 1.1 It seems that writing to /dev/vcs0 makes the console singing "Ugh,
7671     lalala, I love you baby..."
7672     --
7673     Pavel.Janik@inet.cz
7674 root 1.387 %
7675 root 1.1 On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Linus Torvalds wrote:
7676     >
7677     > Kubys
7678    
7679     Kubys is my evil twin brother. Sorry about that.
7680    
7681     Linus
7682 root 1.387 %
7683 root 1.1 > eieio stands for "Enforce In-Order Execution of I/O".
7684    
7685     .... and it is definitely my favorite name for an assembly language
7686     instruction (the non-native-English speakers on the list presumably
7687     don't know the childhood song "Old McDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O").
7688 root 1.387 %
7689 root 1.1 > It is *big* and never uses.
7690    
7691     That's parses like English, but I'll be hornswoggled if I can figure
7692     out what it means.
7693     --
7694     Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
7695 root 1.387 %
7696 root 1.1 [...] HP's PA-8500, for example, has 1.5 Mbytes of L1 cache on-chip. The
7697     company has described the 8500 as a cache SRAM with an ancillary CPU. [...]
7698 root 1.387 %
7699 root 1.1 From: Dave Cinege <dcinege@psychosis.com>
7700     Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:10:31 -0400
7701    
7702     Terry L Ridder wrote:
7703    
7704     > at some future date end up being released under the BSD License is what
7705     > is being discussed.
7706    
7707     Well my licence is bigger then your licence.
7708 root 1.387 %
7709 root 1.1 [gtk/testgtk, after dragging & dropping an object:]
7710    
7711     Drop data of type text/plain was:
7712    
7713     Bill Gates demands royalties for your use of his innovation
7714    
7715     [and the button reads]
7716    
7717     Continue with life in spite of this oppression
7718 root 1.387 %
7719 root 1.1 Joshua Waxman <jwaxman@ymail.yu.edu> writes:
7720    
7721     While DJGPP is indeed a C as well as a C compiler, there are certain
7722    
7723     A terribly succinct, as well as a true, statement. However, it has a
7724     certain amount of redundancy.
7725 root 1.387 %
7726 root 1.1 Compatibility with oneself is Microsoft's greatest strength. When they hit
7727     the 64 bit transition they will hit a major internal incompatibility problem.
7728    
7729     ...
7730    
7731     Peter da Silva <peter@baileynm.com>
7732 root 1.387 %
7733 root 1.1 >Hello,
7734     >
7735     >I am new to Perl. Can anyone tell me where I can download a full
7736     >operational Perl version for a Windows 95 system?
7737     >
7738    
7739     Of course it all depends on what you mean by "a full operational Perl
7740     version" Perl on Win32 has limitations that are largely due to the
7741     nature of the underlying OS, Perl on Win95 has further limitations
7742     compared with NT due to its own shortcomings .
7743 root 1.387 %
7744 root 1.1 An injunction delaying Windows 98 would clearly have a negative impact
7745     on the country as a whole.
7746     Compaq President & CEO Eckhard Pfeiffer,
7747     explaining why Microsoft shouldn't be
7748     prosecuted under anti-monopoly laws.
7749 root 1.387 %
7750 root 1.1 With a PC, I always felt limited by the software available. On Unix, I am
7751     limited by my knowledge. --Peter J. Schoenster <pschon@baste.magibox.net>
7752 root 1.387 %
7753 root 1.1 There is a need to keep from being locked into Open Systems. --IBM sales rep
7754 root 1.387 %
7755 root 1.1 In comp.lang.perl.misc,
7756     Stylin <stylinsty@yahoo.comREMOVE> writes:
7757     :Can anyone point me to the algorithm for creating a unique id?
7758    
7759     $id = `cat /dev/kmem`;
7760    
7761     --tom
7762     --
7763     Real programmers can write assembly code in any language. :-)
7764     --Larry Wall in <8571@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>
7765 root 1.387 %
7766 root 1.1 Newsgroup: comp.lang.perl.misc
7767     Subject: Larry 1 Bill 0
7768 root 1.387 %
7769 root 1.1 On 3 Jul 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
7770    
7771     > The only problem with these AIs is that they don't handle references
7772     > to themselves as AIs very well. In faSegmentation fault (core dumped)
7773     > NO CARRIER
7774     > !@*&#@#%T^@&*(GU*SD*(@!&*(@#R(*FERHGH*(@#(&$&#@Y!&R
7775 root 1.387 %
7776 root 1.1 > People come here to ask questions, not for intellectual gratification, but
7777     > rather they are seeking solutions. As such, the incorrect answer was
7778     > better.
7779    
7780     There's something... terribly wrong with this statement. I can't quite put
7781     my finger on it. Hmmm.
7782 root 1.387 %
7783 root 1.1 comp.lang.c does not exist to accomodate the laziness of those who cannot be
7784     bothered to learn netiquette. That's what comp.lang.c++ is for.
7785 root 1.387 %
7786 root 1.1 |> : > but... a microwave is an example of an embedded system,
7787     |>
7788     |> : Who says? He just said it was a microwave. He didn't say it was
7789     |> : a free-standing implimentation.
7790     |>
7791     |> This is approaching arguing for the sake of argument. Have you
7792     |> ever seen a microwave oven that supports a hosted C environment?
7793    
7794     The Lipton Ritchie Model 8 did. I'm sure that many posters will
7795     point out that Lipton's implementation of the stdio libraries was
7796     horrendously buggy. It was, but it was still a great system. It
7797     remains the only C implementation I know of that could be used to
7798     build Bison, and then cook it.
7799    
7800     Viva la buffalo burgers.
7801 root 1.387 %
7802 root 1.1 A strategically-placed PDP-11 can be used to heat your entire
7803     home. I've got one in my basement, next to a large box of "She's
7804     The Sheriff" drink coasters. I sold my furnace years ago. The
7805     Digital Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning Corporation
7806     can be found online at http://www.dhvacc.com/.
7807 root 1.387 %
7808 root 1.1 The lbxproxy program has various options, all of which are optional.
7809     -- lbxproxy(1)
7810 root 1.387 %
7811 root 1.1 Re: Where to learn Windows programming...
7812    
7813     |> I'll take a Schildt book any day, thanks.
7814    
7815     Great. I'm expecting to see the line above as a back-cover blurb
7816     on the next "Bullschildt: The Complete Reference".
7817 root 1.387 %
7818 root 1.1 Subject: Re: The wrong position of while, if and else?
7819    
7820     that's some ugly piece of code buddy...
7821 root 1.387 %
7822 root 1.1 In article <1998062718481700.OAA03186@ladder01.news.aol.com>, eyrei@aol.com (EYREI) writes:
7823     |> I have recently started learning the C Language. I have created a simple file
7824     |> to determine whether or not a number is Prime. When I run it, the program
7825     |> crashes with the error message :- Unhandled Exception :- General Protection
7826     |> Exception 0x5FD7:0x379F. Prime(1) Processor Fault.
7827    
7828     |> What does this mean.
7829    
7830     It means you've got a broken operating system, and should immediately
7831     install [free|net|open]BSD[OS] or Linux.
7832 root 1.387 %
7833 root 1.1 Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
7834    
7835     On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Emulov wrote:
7836     > Hi, i don't know if this is a stupid question..
7837    
7838     Off-topic, too! Imagine that.
7839 root 1.387 %
7840 root 1.1 "Right now we are the most shit hot piece of PC networking software on the
7841     planet. The only people who can touch us are FreeBSD (who also dont do
7842     streams)."
7843     -- Alan Cox, in "Streams and Linux"
7844 root 1.387 %
7845 root 1.1 "Perl combines all of the worst aspects of BASIC, C and line noise."
7846     - Keith Packard <keithp@ncd.com>
7847 root 1.387 %
7848 root 1.1 Lord Fellatio <richter_m@hotmail.com>
7849    
7850     >Wo soll das Loch denn dann sein? Im Meeresboden?
7851    
7852     Klaro.
7853    
7854     >Von oben duerfte man es also ueberhaupt nicht sehen
7855     >koennen, da ueber dem potentiellen Loch im Meeresboden doch
7856     >wahrscheinlich erstmal Wasser und dann viel Eis liegen wuerde. Wie
7857     >verhindern die Ausserirdischen denn, dass Wasser ins Loch einstroemt?
7858    
7859 root 1.388 Na ist doch völlig logo, mit nem rotierenden Traktorstrahl. Die
7860 root 1.1 Energie klauen die ?r***e dem Erdmagnetfeld.
7861    
7862     >Gibt es da einen kosmischen Badewannenstoepsel? Haben sie es mit
7863     >Eisbergen verstopft? Oder benutzen sie das einstroemende Wasser zu
7864     >Kajakfahrten bis hinunter zum Suedpol? (Das waere doch auch endlich
7865     >mal eine einleuchtende Erklaerung fuer die Eismassen, die die
7866     >Antarktis bedecken - man muesste halt nur, der Kontinentaldrift
7867     >folgend, immer wieder neue Schaechte bohren. Oder die Kontinentaldrift
7868     >einfach wegdiskutieren...)
7869    
7870     Die enorme Zentrifugalkraft im Erdinnern schleudert das Wasser wieder
7871     am Nordpolpol raus, falls der Traktorstrahl versagen sollte (Dies
7872     passiert immer dann, wenn das Erdmagnetfeld umkippt). Nun kommt sicher
7873 root 1.388 der Einwand, die Erde würde zu langsam rotieren. Das ist nur bedingt
7874     richtig. Richtig ist hingegen, daß die Rotationsgeschwindigkeit im
7875     Erdinnern um den Faktor 1000 (ca; sehr schwer zu messen: Magma) größer
7876     ist als auf der Erdoberfläche. Dies ist auch die Ursache für die
7877 root 1.1 Kontinentaldrift und die Mondphasen.
7878    
7879     Die Mondphasen wiederum beeinflussen das Erdmagnetfeld und sind daher
7880 root 1.388 die Ursache für die Sonnenflecken. Den Sonnenflecken haben wir auch
7881     die momentane Klimaveränderung zu verdanken. Auf der anderen Seite hat
7882     die Zunahme der Treibhausgase eine Erhöhung des Reflektionsvermögens
7883     der Atmosphäre zur Folge, welches dazu führt, daß ein Teil der
7884     Sonnenenergie zur Sonne zurückreflektiert wird. Dies heizt wiederum
7885     die Sonnenflecken auf und verkürzt deren Zyklus. All dies wird sich in
7886     den nächten Monaten so aufschaukeln, daß vorraussichtlich im Novemner
7887 root 1.1 2002 das Erdmagnetfeld zusammenbrechen wird. Wie damals bei den Dinos.
7888     Nur war dort ein Kometeneinschlag die Ursache.
7889    
7890     cu in hell 2002
7891 root 1.387 %
7892 root 1.1 "Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '85, Windows '95"
7893 root 1.387 %
7894 root 1.1 >In unix, one might say 'man 3 crypt'.
7895    
7896     Of course, on a Solaris system this won't give you what you want. You
7897     get a message that it can't find the man page for 3. It then prints
7898     the man page for crypt(1).
7899    
7900     Of course, all a beginner has to do is figure out that the 3 is the
7901     section number in the Unix manual. He can then use man man to find
7902     that on Solaris one uses -s to specify the section so he'll try
7903    
7904     man -s3 crypt
7905    
7906     Unfortunately, that doesn't work either. He'll get the message "No
7907     entry for crypt in section(s) 3 of the manual."
7908    
7909     If he doesn't give up, he can go back to the manual page for man and
7910     find that the -a switch prints all matching manual pages. Or perhaps
7911     he can figure out to use the command
7912    
7913     man -s3 Intro.3
7914    
7915     to get a list of everything in section 3. He'll then find out that
7916     crypt is in section 3C so he should use
7917    
7918     man -s3c crypt
7919    
7920     Gee. I don't understand why beginners have so much trouble with this
7921     stuff. I've only been programming Unix for 15 years and I don't have
7922     any trouble.
7923     --
7924     Michael M Rubenstein
7925 root 1.387 %
7926 root 1.1 Take a moment to consider these lines:
7927    
7928     %OVERLOAD=( '""' => sub { join("", @{$_[0]}) } );
7929    
7930     sub html { my($type)=shift; bless ["<$type>", @_, "</$type>"]; }
7931    
7932     :-) I *love* Perl 5! Thankyou Larry and Ilya.
7933    
7934     Regards,
7935     Tim Bunce.
7936    
7937     p.s. If you didn't get it, think about recursive data types: html(html())
7938     p.p.s. I'll turn this into a much more practical example in a day or two.
7939     p.p.p.s. It's a pity that overloads are not inherited. Is this a bug?
7940 root 1.387 %
7941 root 1.1 From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
7942    
7943     ...
7944    
7945     > now is evil". This only shows two things: you never looked at the bad
7946     > experiences of the industry where following a rotten design and
7947     > keeping backward compatibility lead to unusable systems. And second:
7948    
7949     I worked for 3com. I know eveyrhting about following a rotten design until
7950     its unusable, believe me I do.
7951 root 1.387 %
7952 root 1.1 Ok(slow) -> !NeedComputer
7953    
7954     Semour Cray
7955 root 1.387 %
7956 root 1.1 Ullrich Jans at University of Karlsruhe, Germany:
7957    
7958     Oh Gott! Es ist voller crons!
7959 root 1.387 %
7960 root 1.1 From: p00h <p00h@MONMOUTH.COM>
7961     Subject: Re: AOL for Windows DoS/Exploit
7962    
7963     aol supports PARTIAL html, its like win95's implementation of tcp/ip
7964     it only supports parts of it
7965 root 1.387 %
7966 root 1.1 egcs/gcc/gcse.c:
7967     /* Help stamp out big monolithic functions! */
7968 root 1.387 %
7969 root 1.1 [...] Yes, I'm being sarcastic. Especially regarding HPPA assembler syntax
7970     as provided by HP, which was designed by someone who should not have been
7971     let near a language-design project like that, too often "little languages",
7972     whether assemblers, tools, or C++, are designed by people who are unaware
7973     of, or give little thought to, the outright readability of code written in
7974     the language, in the sense that the basic semantics should be fairly obvious
7975     *without* the reader having to memorize lots of semantic information.
7976    
7977     (In HPPA assembler's case, one glaring stupidity was the nullified branches,
7978     which have completely different semantics depending on whether the label
7979     being branched to happens to assemble to a negative or positive offset! A
7980     smarter design would have required the programmer to specify whether such a
7981     branch was a "forward" or "backward" branch explicitly, then the assembler
7982     and/or linker would complain if reality didn't match the programmer's
7983     specification. I've never looked into whether GNU's HPPA as fixes this
7984     botch; I gather GNU as fixes many botches, though, so it wouldn't surprise
7985     me if it did, even though that might make for some compatibility problems
7986     with existing HP as code.) [...]
7987    
7988     tq vm, (burley)
7989 root 1.387 %
7990 root 1.1 libc/posix/regex.h:
7991     /* The following two types have to be signed and unsigned integer type
7992     wide enough to hold a value of a pointer. For most ANSI compilers
7993     ptrdiff_t and size_t should be likely OK. Still size of these two
7994     types is 2 for Microsoft C. Ugh... */
7995     typedef long int s_reg_t;
7996     typedef unsigned long int active_reg_t;
7997 root 1.387 %
7998 root 1.1 libc/db2/db.h:
7999     /*
8000     * While Microsoft's compiler is ANSI C compliant, it doesn't have _STDC_
8001     * defined by default, you specify a command line flag or #pragma to turn
8002     * it on. Don't do that, however, because some of Microsoft's own header
8003     * files won't compile.
8004     */
8005 root 1.387 %
8006 root 1.1 > UTC variation and begining and ending dates of DST (if observed) would be
8007     > great.
8008    
8009     I answered only the places I can comment on.
8010    
8011     > BASSAS DA INDIA
8012    
8013     This rock is below water half of the time!
8014     If any inhabitants have been there, I do not think they observe DST
8015     on a regular basis! ;-)
8016 root 1.387 %
8017 root 1.1 # ./test-plugin.pl
8018     Bizarre copy of CODE in sassign at /root/.gimp/plug-ins/test-plugin.pl line 40.
8019     wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)
8020 root 1.387 %
8021 root 1.1 >
8022     > The "where do you want to go today?" generation has taken the
8023     > developer out of the "programmer" by removing the vital, development
8024     > tools from the environment and precanning software.
8025    
8026     No kidding. Point. Click. Point. Click. Point. Click. Brain Atrophy.
8027 root 1.387 %
8028 root 1.1 Lars Chr Hausmann <36haus@but.auc.dk> writes:
8029    
8030     >Hello!
8031    
8032     >I have to write something about, what Perl is.
8033     >I need some crystal clear info about, what perl is. So if any of you
8034     >would be so kind just to mail. Then I would be grateful!
8035    
8036    
8037     Perl.
8038    
8039     regards
8040     jobst
8041 root 1.387 %
8042 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Cyrix 6x86MX and Centaur C6 CPUs in 2.1.102
8043     From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
8044     Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:31:02 +0100 (BST)
8045    
8046     > Well, that depends. They SHOULD be. By Intel 'standards' *laff*, they have
8047     > to be identical stepping, indicating identical features. However, I've
8048    
8049     They don't. Pentiums have fairly strict rules, P6/PII much less. Also Intel
8050     are pretty good at following the MP 1.1/1.4 standard its the motherboard
8051     makers who get it wrong - primarily the BIOS is full of bugs. It appears
8052     nobody tests bios code against specs any more. It looks like they do
8053     compile flash, boot 95, boot NT, ship. The quality of bios code has dived to
8054     the absolute pits.
8055 root 1.387 %
8056 root 1.1 Unix never says `Please.' -- Rob Pike
8057 root 1.387 %
8058 root 1.1 > What about: . scriptname
8059     > ------------------^ this is a dot!
8060    
8061     Funny, it looks like a "p" to me.
8062 root 1.387 %
8063 root 1.1 A computer without Microsoft and IBM is like chocolate cake without
8064     ketchup and mustard
8065 root 1.387 %
8066 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Challange for perl `GURUS
8067    
8068     vimal gajjar wrote:
8069     >
8070     > Hi there,
8071     > Here is a small challange. Is it possible to have a perl
8072     > code which takes e.g. three parameters as input. time, val1, val2. and
8073     > the name of the prog. is say challange.pl. Now if i execute
8074     > "challange.pl 10 5 2" this perl script wille consume
8075     > 5% of cpu
8076     > 2 Mb of RAM
8077     > for the period of 10 Seconds.
8078     >
8079     > can one of the gurus take this challange?
8080    
8081     Examining the 5 copies of this post has consumed 5% of the
8082     brain power I allocate to reviewing c.l.p.m, about 10 seconds, and
8083     has caused the death of 2 million brain cells.
8084 root 1.387 %
8085 root 1.1 > >> /A:You can usually write the program faster than you can
8086     > >> dial/dl/hangup/install/read docs/fix it/fix the fix/.
8087     >
8088     > >s/usually/never/
8089     >
8090     > s/sometimes/never/
8091    
8092     Cute. You embarrass yourself by your ignorance of perl.
8093 root 1.387 %
8094 root 1.1 :That's probably true, but I really can't speak to it. But, if there
8095     :were no *nix around, there'd be no Perl. Nor would there be a need for
8096     :Perl, IMO.
8097    
8098     Gotta love them JCL and ini dot bat dot bad dot doo dah files.
8099    
8100     TC
8101 root 1.387 %
8102 root 1.1 'cc:Mail is a wonderful application, as long as you don't want to read or send mail.'
8103 root 1.387 %
8104 root 1.1 shurik@iron.Te.NeT.UA - Alexandr Dubovikov at TeNeT Networking Centre
8105    
8106     Hi guys!
8107    
8108     How check socket, alive it or die ?
8109 root 1.387 %
8110 root 1.1 --> Questions not to ask on linux-kernel <--
8111    
8112     Miscellaneous flame-wars:
8113     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8114     12) The gnome-kde debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
8115     13) The emacs-vi debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
8116     14) Porting linux to run under windows is not interesting.
8117     15) Whether a given intel CISC chip "is really RISC" is not interesting.
8118 root 1.387 %
8119 root 1.1 Subject: what a week!
8120     From: "C. Scott Ananian" <cananian@lcs.mit.edu>
8121     Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 03:13:23 -0400 (EDT)
8122    
8123     unicode, boot-logos, GGI, STREAMS, the necessity of a short devel cycle
8124     and the instability of 2.0.x, "ifconfig stopped working", "you really *do*
8125     need to remove 'encaps'", Linus' tarball practices... it seems like we're
8126     running out of things to flame off on. Here's my humble contribution:
8127    
8128     I'VE MADE A KEWL NEW CHARSET THAT I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD USE. IT HAS ALL
8129     THE LETTERS IN MY LOGIN MAPPED TO THE LOWEST 16 CHARACTERS SO WE CAN
8130     COMPRESS THINGS REAL GOOD AND THE LETTERS IN MY BROTHER B1FF'S NAME ARE
8131     ALL IN HIGH ASCII CUZ THAT'S WHERE LOSERS BELONG!!!2!!7
8132    
8133     I ONLY USE EMACS AND I THINK VI SUX!!$231!!
8134    
8135     GNOME RULES AND KDE IS DEMON-SPAWN BECAUSE IT IS NOT FREE.! !
8136    
8137     WE NEED KGI IN THE KERNEL (NOT LIBGGI, NOT THE TERMINAL IMPROVEMENTS
8138     WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED) IN ORDER TO HAVE WAY KEWL BOOT LOGOS AND RUN MY
8139     BROTHER B1FF'S GAMES!!1!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!11!!!
8140    
8141     I USE A BIG-ENDIAN MACHINE BECAUSE THEY RULE. LITTLE-ENDIAN MACHINES ARE
8142     EVIL. AND A PENTIUM *IS* A RISC PROCESSOR!!!
8143    
8144     WE SHOULD PORT LINUX TO WINDOWS SO WE CAN USE ALL THE KEWL HARDWARE
8145     DRIVERS!!!!!@@#!
8146    
8147     Did I miss any? ;-)
8148    
8149     *Please* don't respond seriously to this email. It's a joke. A joke.
8150     Laugh. Please.
8151    
8152     And then let's kill all the flaming threads, shall we?
8153     --Scott
8154 root 1.387 %
8155 root 1.1 > Well, /proc/kcore already reports its actual size...
8156    
8157     And it isn't about to change at runtime either. That is the size of
8158     installed memory. I've yet to see a single person successfully insert or
8159     remove a SIMM/DIMM while a machine was running. If they did, and it was
8160     successful, the linux code will update the filesize. ;o)
8161 root 1.387 %
8162 root 1.1 Toby Heywood (toby@he-net.demon.co.uk) wrote:
8163     : This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
8164    
8165     One of those 'M's stands for Mail.
8166    
8167     This is not mail.
8168    
8169     This is Usenet.
8170    
8171     Please post only plain text like everyone else does.
8172 root 1.387 %
8173 root 1.1 ------------ etienne.lorrain@ibm.net
8174     --- hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
8175     --- ide1: reset: success
8176     -----------> I like Linux !
8177 root 1.387 %
8178 root 1.1 > I have experienced people walking up to my console and saying "What
8179     > the hell does that mean" in sheer terror as the machine boots.
8180    
8181     Tell them it's magic, and earn the respect of your colleagues. I always
8182     do.
8183 root 1.387 %
8184 root 1.1 ++ Actually, I'm not at a loss for words. Here's one that's very appropriate:
8185     ++ PLONK.
8186 root 1.387 %
8187 root 1.1 ++ > SSI is *not* HTML.
8188     Re: Subraumfunk
8189    
8190     Ja, ein Handy waere da praktisch. Die hoeheren Gebuehren rechnen sich,
8191     wenn man ueber die Grenzen des Sonnensystems hinaus telefonieren will.
8192    
8193     Die Telekom wuerde da wieder mal erbarmungslos abzocken. Ich kann es
8194     mir schon vorstellen: SunSystem-Tarif, vielleicht auch einen
8195     InnerPlanets-Sondertarif, dann einen LocalGroupWeekend-Specialtarif,
8196     eine Supercluster-Zone und so weiter. Und wenn es auf der Venus
8197     schneit, telefonieren alle fuer die Haelfte.
8198 root 1.387 %
8199 root 1.1 > > Vergiss es. Du wirst nie und nimmer von Armando eine
8200     > > konkrete, verwertbare Antwort bekommen.
8201     >
8202     > Doch, man bekommt von mir sogar sehr viele Antworten.
8203    
8204     Du hast gerade zwei Adjektive weggelassen.
8205 root 1.387 %
8206 root 1.1 ++ Oh yeah. Show me an example of SSI used outside of HTML.
8207     Show me an HTML DTD mentioning SSI directives.
8208 root 1.387 %
8209 root 1.1 Namsuk Kim wrote:
8210     > Is there a way to convert a scalar data to Acii data format?
8211    
8212     I am not familar with ACII. If you mean ASCII, then the question I have is
8213     - is the data in EBCDIC now?
8214    
8215     Bill Jones
8216 root 1.387 %
8217 root 1.1 GNU/getopt.c:
8218    
8219     #if defined (WIN32) && !defined (__CYGWIN32__)
8220     /* It's not Unix, really. See? Capital letters. */
8221     #include <windows.h>
8222     #define getpid() GetCurrentProcessId()
8223     #endif
8224 root 1.387 %
8225 root 1.1 Subject: IIS 4.0, PW32i316, CGI Programs
8226    
8227     Perlis.dll does not pass command line arguments correctly via the web. That
8228     is, invoking the URL
8229    
8230     http://www.myserver.com/myprogram.pl?Argument1&Argument2...&Argumentn
8231    
8232     causes the myprogram.pl to execute, but @ARGV is empty.
8233 root 1.387 %
8234 root 1.1 "You need to use CGI."
8235     "I am using CGI, it's a CGI application!"
8236     "No, no, *use* CGI. The directive 'use'."
8237     "OK, so what directive do I use?"
8238     "No, no, you *use* *use*. Use CGI."
8239     "I *am* using CGI!"
8240    
8241     Craig Berry - cberry@cinenet.net
8242 root 1.387 %
8243 root 1.1 > > Was haltet Ihr von Killfile-mailing-lists, dass sich die Leute mal
8244     > > kennenlernen koennen?
8245     >
8246 root 1.388 > Gute Idee ;-), wäre ich sofort dabei, datrifft man wahrscheinlich ne
8247 root 1.1 > Menge tolle Leute... ;-) und die wahren Freidenker.
8248    
8249     Einige Freidenker sicher, aber auch etliche Denkfreie.
8250 root 1.387 %
8251 root 1.1 "I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big or
8252     professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones." -- Linus Torvalds 1991
8253 root 1.387 %
8254 root 1.1 If it's a floppy, it might be a copy.
8255     If it's a disk, you're also at risk.
8256     If it's a pirate, the vendors are irate.
8257     To avoid such frustration, try: Free Software Foundation.
8258 root 1.387 %
8259 root 1.1 From: David Woodhouse <Dave@imladris.demon.co.uk>
8260    
8261     pcg@goof.com said:
8262     > It was much more than I usally get! It was _great_
8263    
8264     Hehe - I know the feeling.
8265    
8266     "It's broken."
8267     "What's wrong with it?."
8268     "I don't know - it just doesn't work."
8269     "Well what do you mean by 'it's broken'?"
8270     "It just doesn't work."
8271     "How can you _tell_ it's broken, for f***'s sake - what are the symptoms!?"
8272     "It gives an error message."
8273     "Would you care to tell me what it says?"
8274     "It says.... something about there being an error."
8275     "That's not very helpful. Tell me it word for word."
8276     "It says 'Unable to handle kernel NULL reference at something or other'"
8277     "That's not word for word. It said 'NULL pointer dereference.' Try again,
8278     letter for letter this time."
8279 root 1.387 %
8280 root 1.1 From: "Paul B. Henson" <henson@INTRANET.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
8281    
8282     After installing Solaris 2.6 HW3/98, I discovered that /usr/bin/admintool
8283     had been installed mode 0777, world writable. Under the original release of
8284     2.6, the mode was 04555.
8285    
8286     Sun has been notified of the problem. If you're running 2.6 HW3/98, you
8287     might want to verify your admintool hasn't been tampered with and fix the
8288     perms.
8289    
8290     (Personally, I'd set them to 0000 ;). admintool? blech.)
8291 root 1.387 %
8292 root 1.1 From: verah@netscape.com (Vera Horiuchi)
8293     Subject: Re: Risp: drama (Re: Do It Yourself)
8294    
8295     Americans ignorant of the rest of the world?
8296    
8297     I must tell a favorite story here. A friend and I were purchasing a gift
8298     for another friend who lives in Canada. I was speculating out loud about
8299     how much duty our Canadian friend would have to pay.
8300    
8301     The cashier said, "Oh, I'm sure Canadians don't have to pay any duty. We
8302     ship to Hawaii all the time, and _they_ don't have to pay duty." =:-0
8303 root 1.387 %
8304 root 1.388 >am besten ist z.Z. das Buch von Michael Neufeld. Wer aber Wissenslücken
8305     >verspürt (was keine Schande ist), sollte diese zu stopfen suchen und nicht
8306 root 1.1 >Zuflucht zu absolut hirnrissigen Theorien suchen.
8307    
8308     Hirnrissig bist Du. Das es einen Zeittransfer aus der Zukunft zu den Nazis
8309     gab deckt sich mit dazu passenden Entschluesselungen bestimmter Bibelstellen
8310     und mit der dann tatsaechlichen notwendigen Geheimhaltung. Es deckt sich
8311     ueberdies damit, dass die Unterhaltung uns den Gedanken zunehmend nahelegt,
8312     also vorbereitet, und dass es bereits ein wissenschaftliches Experiment gab,
8313     bei dem ERST die Wirkung auftrat und DANN die Ursache. Die Zeitreise ist
8314     also Fakt. Und es ist sicher, dass Jemand per Zeitreise den Nazis helfen
8315     wollte. Gelegentliche Theorien, dass auch diese ausserirdische Hilfe gehabt
8316     haetten sollen nur davon ablenken, eine andere Erklaerung liefern. Das ist
8317     logisch, denn die Taeter sitzen ja irgendwo in unserer Zeit und moechten
8318     sicher nicht erkannt werden.
8319    
8320     Du scheinst die simpelsten Grundzuege der Zeitlogik nicht verstehen zu wollen.
8321    
8322     normarz@aol.com
8323 root 1.387 %
8324 root 1.1 >Oder anders gesagt:
8325 root 1.388 >Glaubst Du, Du könntest mit einem hochmodernen Maschinengewehr eine römische
8326 root 1.1 >Legion
8327     >schlagen?
8328    
8329     Klar. Frage mal Cortez.
8330    
8331     Bye
8332     Andreas
8333 root 1.387 %
8334 root 1.1 >Article 2B is a threat to anyone who uses a computer. I just wanted to
8335    
8336     It may be a threat to any american using a computer. Fortunately, the U.S.
8337     justice does not yet apply outside the U.S.A.
8338    
8339     I.a.W.: You're currently creating a lot of happy non-U.S. software
8340     companies.
8341    
8342     Kind regards
8343     Henning
8344 root 1.387 %
8345 root 1.1 From: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>
8346     Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:14:11 -0700
8347     Subject: Re: driver for Creative Labs DVD kits
8348    
8349     At least with the IDE DVD drive that I have, plugging it directly
8350     into an IDE port and using the regular Linux ide-cd driver works just fine
8351     for reading [...] CD and the [not] copy protected sections of the DVD's.
8352    
8353     There is a protocol that the hardware decoder boards use to
8354     tell the DVD drive that they are a licensed implementation and should
8355     be allowed to read the copy protected sectors as well. I have been
8356     told that this protocol can be done entirely in software with a
8357     standard IDE port. Hopefully, somebody will reverse engineer this and
8358     make it a demand loaded kernel module. (Seriously, there is a lot
8359     that you are allowed to do with copyrighted material that this sort of
8360     hardware restriction prevents, and there are other important political
8361     issues involved relating to your rights to do as you please with the
8362     computer equipment that you bought and paid for.)
8363 root 1.387 %
8364 root 1.1 Where do you want to go today?
8365     We might support that sometime next year.
8366     -=- Microsoft
8367     (But I doubt it.)
8368     -=- Me
8369     -=- James Mastros
8370 root 1.387 %
8371 root 1.1 Hello570 <hello570@aol.com> wrote:
8372     > I tried printing a line to a file using both of the
8373     > following methods, but the output was split into two
8374     >lines.
8375    
8376     If you don't want newlines in the middle of your string, then don't
8377     put newlines in the middle of your string.
8378 root 1.387 %
8379 root 1.1 http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/Dean_Roehrich/subjects.post
8380 root 1.387 %
8381 root 1.1 Einstein himself said that God doesn't roll dice. But he was wrong. And
8382     in fact, anyone who has played role-playing games knows that God
8383     probably had to roll quite a few dice to come up with a character like
8384     Einstein. -- Larry Wall
8385 root 1.387 %
8386 root 1.1 From: Ragnar Hojland Espinosa <root@lightside.ddns.org>
8387    
8388     My $0.02 Euros on internationalization? I'm in Spain and my keyboard is
8389     mosty US mapped because the Spanish map is really awkward for programming.
8390     Computers were designed to be funcional, not politically (or locally)
8391     correct (hm, I don't think HAL ever spoke Russian). This "computers are easy
8392     for all" GUI related trend has done a lot of money, and lot of damage; at
8393     least command line OSes forced the user to actually learn something and
8394     absorb information. The user assumed so, so he did. Now he doesn't, and
8395     it's not all his fault.
8396    
8397     The WWW is full of useless (and ugly) graphics, of useless links to links to
8398     pages with links to links which usually end up in a huge links page. Of
8399     course, there are some jewels.. but they should be majority! It's
8400     understandable, when the tools and languages focus more on aspect that in
8401     content.
8402    
8403     Usenet is worse than ever, the interesting places have been ruined by
8404     spammers, c00l hak3rz, and more and more people asking (or demanding) for
8405     others doing their homework.. at least some time ago they were willing to
8406     learn (or pay for it;)
8407    
8408     IRC.. heh. The few times I've been on funet almost all I found is the same
8409     people in the above paragraph. And I do know some of them even run scripts
8410     to try denial of service or other destructive attacks on people they see,
8411     just for fun or to get the op.
8412    
8413     Email. Someone selling an "incredible program that allows you to bypass
8414     your ISP mail server, for only $89" (thats right, a smtp server). No OS
8415     mentioned, I somehow can guess which. And that stupid thing of sending
8416     mail to people in RTF and HTML format.. I'm gonna answer them in LaTeX.
8417    
8418     Internet, your ilimited junk yard.
8419    
8420     Using computers would make me real sad if it wasn't for UNIX and, of
8421     course, Linux and Linux people.
8422 root 1.387 %
8423 root 1.1 ... WNT == ++VMS . Literally. Dave Cutler created VMS,
8424     then he rewrote it as WNT.
8425    
8426     Ever used VMS? It's a step above DOS. Barely.
8427     --
8428     Clark O. Morgan cmorgan@aracnet.com
8429 root 1.387 %
8430 root 1.1 >Subject: If "=~" means match what is doesn't match?
8431    
8432     I heard that a friend of a friend might have once been told about a
8433     rumor that this information can be found in perlop, right next to
8434     where =~ is documented. (It's !~)
8435    
8436     I agree with Tom's assessment that the fall of modern man will be
8437     preceded by the de-evolution of communications to the days of oral
8438     tradition.
8439 root 1.387 %
8440 root 1.1 "Windows 95, the most installed system in the world,
8441     I know, I've done it 5 or 6 times myself"
8442 root 1.387 %
8443 root 1.1 The statistics programming language S, from AT&T, combines lazy
8444     evaluation with imperative programming. A nightmare.
8445 root 1.387 %
8446 root 1.1 "In 1965, as part of a research and development project for the
8447     U.S. Army, engineers at TRW Corp developed a software program
8448     called Generalized Information Retrieval Lanaguage and System."
8449     Or GIRLS for short.
8450 root 1.387 %
8451 root 1.1 Wissen bremst die Meinungsbildung voll aus.
8452 root 1.387 %
8453 root 1.1 I have an idea: Anybody who posts an URGENT! or EMERGENCY! request should
8454     post the circumstances behind the urgency. "I was having sex with my
8455     mistress in the server room and I knocked the Linux box over and the hard
8456     drive crashed and so I've reinstalled everything but I still can't get
8457     5_004_03 to build!"
8458    
8459     This would inspire me to action far more than the implied subtext of "I
8460     have no patience."
8461    
8462     xoxo,
8463     Andy
8464 root 1.387 %
8465 root 1.1 > I have Perl5 running on my pc.
8466     > and also front page98 and microsoft personal web server runnig.
8467     We all have our cross to bear.
8468 root 1.387 %
8469 root 1.1 (THIS IS LONG, YOU MAY WANT TO SKIP)
8470    
8471     From: mjd@plover.com (Mark-Jason Dominus)
8472     Date: 09 Nov 1995 02:57:30 GMT
8473     Subject: Re: system() question
8474    
8475     There are a lot of reasons, many of which get repeated over and
8476     over again, many of which don't. Some of the reasons you hear a lot
8477     are: Questions are incoherently phrased. Questions have the form 'My
8478     code doesn't work' and don't include the code. Questions include the
8479     code, and it's 200 lines long, and comp.lang.perl is not a debugging
8480     service. Nobody knows the answer to the question. The question is so
8481     badly punctuated that nobody can bear to read it. Questions aer
8482     written by a non-native speaker of English and the native speakers who
8483     are trying to understand it can't. (That's a shame, but it does
8484     happen. I often wish that these people would post in their native
8485     languages. I'd love to see more discussion in languages other than
8486     English. Some Dutch guy tried posting all his comp.lang.c articles in
8487     Dutch a few years ago, and all the Americans flamed him. How
8488     humiliating for me!)
8489    
8490     Apart from these oft-mentioned reasons are many others that are
8491     not so often discussed, because anyone who tries to bring them up gets
8492     flamed. But it's the truth: I know the reason I don't answer more
8493     questions is because so many of them questions are so damn stupid.
8494     They're stupid in a lot of different ways, but they're still stupid.
8495     I don't want to suggest that that's why your questions go unanswered.
8496     I don't know what you're asking. No doubt the reason your questions
8497     go unanswered is because they're so deep and interesting that nobody
8498     really knows the answer.
8499    
8500     The most common stupid question is the one from someone who has
8501     some high-level problem that they need solved. They have an idea that
8502     they'd like to do it in perl, and they don't really know perl. So
8503     instead of learning perl, they post to comp.lang.perl.misc.
8504    
8505     Now don't get me wrong. I don't have any problems answering the
8506     questions of someone who's trying to learn perl. I love THOSE
8507     qusetions. But these people don't seem to be asking useful questions
8508     for that.
8509    
8510     Today, for example, I saw a question from a guy who wants to get a
8511     list of hostnames out of nslookup. `How do I do that?' he says. And
8512     it's hard to know what to make of that. What does he mean? Does he
8513     not know how to open a pipe? Is his en' command failing? What's
8514     going on here? I can't give a useful answer without understanding the
8515     problem. Having your en' fail is a problem. Wanting to list
8516     hostnames is not a problem; it's a desire.
8517    
8518     Here are some similar questions that would have made more sense to me:
8519    
8520     1. `I'm a lazy asshole and I can't be bothered to learn to
8521     program myself, but I know if I post here you'll give me
8522     something for free.''
8523    
8524     (OK, fair enough. At least I can send him a rate card.)
8525    
8526     2. `I'm trying to use en' to talk to nslookup, but...
8527     ...here's my code; what's wrong?''
8528    
8529     (Good question.)
8530    
8531     3. `I know perl has a `System' command for running programs,
8532     but I can't see how to get my commands into nslookup
8533     once I have run it.''
8534     (Good question.)
8535    
8536     4. `I'm trying to use `Getprotobynumber' to talk to nslookup...''
8537    
8538     (Good question.)
8539    
8540     See, I'm not just biting people's heads off, here. #4 is a good
8541     question, because it gives me something to work with. OK, he has a
8542     very weird idea about interprocess communication, but that's
8543     ignorance, and that's what we're here to correct. He doesn't know
8544     about en'; I can refer him to the manual.
8545    
8546     Here's another example: Some guy wants to assemble a list of email
8547     addresses . `How do I do that?'' he wants to know. Well, duh. Get a
8548     big pad of paper and read news for a couple days and write down all
8549     the addresses you see. Problem solved. What's it doing in
8550     comp.lang.perl?
8551     Oh, you wanted to do it in perl. Well, I guess I'd open a socket
8552     to the NNTP server and send it some XHDR commands for the `From'
8553     lines. But that's not Perl; you could do that in any language. I
8554     could do it in Bourne Shell for you if I'm allowed to use a little
8555     external thingie to handle the socket parts for me. What's it doing
8556     in comp.lang.perl?
8557    
8558     Oh, you wanted us to write the program for you? Wait, let me send
8559     you my rate card.
8560    
8561     Someone posted yesterday asking how to get the data from a file where
8562     the start and end of the data is marked by keywords. Same thing going on
8563     here. `Well, here's how you solve your problem: First you go take an
8564     introductory class in programming and learn to write programs in some
8565     language. Then you go to the bookstore and buy this book by Wall and
8566     Schwartz, it's really good. Read the book carefully and try out the
8567     examples. Then if you still have general questions like `How do I do this'
8568     instead of thought that this code would do X but instead it does Y' you hire
8569     a professional to write your program for you. Or you could just skip right
8570     to step 3. Want my rate card?''
8571    
8572     The worst stupid questions are the ones that come from people who
8573     have no business asking them. The most perfect example of this that I
8574     could have imagined was in comp.unix.questions a couple of years ago.
8575     Some guy came and asked how you could tell if a file is a hard link.
8576     My jaw flapped open and it's stayed open since then. I couldn't have
8577     been any more stumped if he'd asked why Bodhidharma came from the
8578     West. What do you say to this guy? Do you tell him the truth, that
8579     all files are hard links, that even symbolic links are hard links?
8580     He's not going to understand you; you might as well keep your mouth
8581     shut. Do you tell him the truth, that the answer won't do him any
8582     good because he doesn't know what a hard link is, so why did he bother
8583     asking in the first place? No, that'll just make him mad. I followed
8584     that message for the next couple weeks, and nobody said anything.
8585     What could you say? The guy had no business asking the question and
8586     no use for the answer. Maybe the right answer would have been to cut
8587     off his finger or something. I dunno.
8588    
8589     Some questions get ignored because they're boring. Someone asked
8590     today how to compare two variables (I assumme he means the contents of
8591     those variables) to see if they're exactly the same. You've gotta be
8592     in an awfully good mood to take the time to answer that. Maybe
8593     someone will. Maybe I will.
8594    
8595     If I answer that one today, maybe he'll be back tomorrow asking
8596     how to check to see if two variables contain different values. Maybe
8597     I won't. What I find incredible is that if you tell these people to
8598     go read the manual and come back in two weeks, you sometimes get
8599     jumped on for not being helpful to beginners. Bah. If everyone told
8600     these people to go read the manual, they'd eventually figure out that
8601     that's what you have to do ,and then I wouldn't have to spend so much
8602     of my life dealing with incompetent programmers.
8603    
8604     Some questions are logically nonsensical because the querent
8605     thinks they know more than they do. A lot of these have the form
8606     `How do I use X to accomplish Y?'' There's nothing wrong with this,
8607     except that sometimes X is a chocolate-covered banana and Y is the
8608     integration of European currency systems. I always get stuck on
8609     these, probably because I can't get rid of the idea that the person
8610     really has a good reason for wanting to use X. I know a half-dozen
8611     easy simple ways to accomplish Y, but I can't imagine what X has to do
8612     with it. This is a problem for me in my day job, too. Clients are
8613     always saying to me `We want to use product X to do multimedia
8614     development on the world-wide web,'' and all I can think is `Well,
8615     gee, what would you want to go and do that for?'' Sometimes it turns
8616     out that they want to do it because they want to impress the
8617     manufacturers of X, and I don't work on those jobs.
8618    
8619     The flip side of this is a questions like `I want to accomplish
8620     X, but I don't want to use Y. What can I use instead?'' Which,
8621     again, is sometimes reasonable, and then sometimes X is closing a
8622     filehandle and Y is the `Close' function.
8623    
8624     The questions I like the best are the ones that go like this:
8625    
8626     `I want to accomplish X.
8627    
8628     I thought that the following code fragment would do it:
8629    
8630     ...
8631    
8632     But instead it does Y.
8633    
8634     Why is that?''
8635    
8636     This one is also pretty good:
8637    
8638     `I want to accomplish X.
8639     I thought I might be able to use facility Y.
8640    
8641     But Y doesn't seem like it's quite right,
8642     because of Z.
8643    
8644     What should I use instead of Y, or how can I overcome Z?''
8645    
8646     When I ignore these, it's usually because I don't know the answer.
8647     There were an awful lot of them today. It makes me very happy.
8648    
8649    
8650     There you go; a 160-line dissertation on why questions go unanswered.
8651     Now don't let me hear you saying nobody ever answers your questions.
8652    
8653     --
8654     Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
8655     The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
8656 root 1.387 %
8657 root 1.1 >> BTW, would it be easier to cope with international text using Python?
8658     >Sigh... you're breaking my heart. Ask Jack Jansen, he probably knows.
8659    
8660     If I were really evel, I would point out that the newest TCL (8.1) has
8661     support for international character sets and Unicode. But then, mentioning
8662     TCL in this newsfroup would be really bad. So, of course, I don't do that.
8663    
8664     Ups. I'm so sorry ... ;-)
8665    
8666     bye, Georg
8667 root 1.387 %
8668 root 1.1 I personally do not believe in object orientation as a security model
8669     (nor as a general programming paradigm), but feel free to try to
8670     convince me.
8671    
8672     [ Or maybe I confuse you with somebody else and some other posting ]
8673    
8674     Linus
8675 root 1.387 %
8676 root 1.1 ++ how can i strip new lines out at var.
8677     ++
8678    
8679     Removing new lines is very tricky, as the manual tells you so. Ignore the
8680     complicated things in the manual, and put in this neat little trick:
8681    
8682 root 1.85 $var=join+q,,,grep{ord$[[qq$\137$]]<10 or+10<ord}split+q,,,$var;
8683 root 1.1
8684     If you're old enough not to read the manual, you won't have a problem
8685     understanding the above line.
8686    
8687     Abigail
8688 root 1.387 %
8689 root 1.1 I fixed the problem by mounting the SCO volume on the SunOS box, and since
8690     1995 the problem has gone away together with the SCO machine.
8691 root 1.387 %
8692 root 1.1 ++ Hi Does anybody know how to upload many graphic files at the push of a
8693     ++ button?
8694     Yes.
8695    
8696     ++ 100 pictures or so?
8697     Yes.
8698    
8699     ++ Can I do it in Perl?
8700     Yes.
8701    
8702     Your question isn't Perl specific. Please ask in the relevant
8703     newsgroup. alt.button.play
8704    
8705     Abigail
8706 root 1.387 %
8707 root 1.1 perly gates - The way to perl; Enter hackerdom.
8708    
8709     perly Gates - Contradictio in Terminis.
8710    
8711     Martien
8712 root 1.387 %
8713 root 1.388 Ren hat weder von Sinnhaftigkeit noch von Kausalität geschrieben, sondern
8714     nur von Logik. Logik und Kausalität sind in unserem (normalen) Denken zwar
8715     eng miteinander verknüpft, sind aber nicht dasselbe. Sinn ist hingegen noch
8716     etwas Drittes und ganz verschiedenes! "Sinn" bedeutet mindestens, daß eine
8717 root 1.1 Sache eine gewisse Richtung hat, wie in "Uhrzeigersinn". Meistens bedeutet
8718 root 1.388 Sinn aber, daß eine Sache einen bestimmten Zweck erfüllt. Auch darf man
8719     nicht "verursachen" mit "begründen" verwechseln, weil die beiden
8720     unterschiedlich sind. Die Existenz muß auch keinen Sinn haben, um eine
8721     Ursache zu haben. Das sind zwei völlig voneinander unabhängige Sachen. Die
8722 root 1.1 Existenz hat einen Sinn, also eine Richtung, wenn wir unserer Existenz eine
8723 root 1.388 Richtung geben. Dieser Sinn kann auf etwas abzielen, was außerhalb unserer
8724     selbst steht, muß aber nicht... Sie kann auch einen Sinn haben, der schon da
8725 root 1.1 war, bevor wir uns danach ausgerichtet haben - von all dem schreibt Ren aber
8726     nicht. ;)
8727    
8728 root 1.388 Worauf Ren wohl hinaus wollte, ist, daß wenn die Logik des begrenzten Raumes
8729     nicht gilt, daß dann die Logik schlechthin hinfällig wird und so jedes Sein
8730     fragwürdig wird. Das ist aber nicht der Fall, da die Logik, die er von den
8731 root 1.1 Grenzen des Raumes aufstellt, gar keine wirkliche Logik ist, sondern nur die
8732     Grenzen des menschlichen Verstandes zeigt. Er kann sich nicht vorstellen,
8733 root 1.388 daß außerhalb der Grenzen des Raumes "Nichts" ist, weil man sich als Mensch
8734 root 1.1 das Nichts nicht vorstellen kann.
8735    
8736 root 1.388 Darüber hinaus meinte er, daß die "Existenz unlogisch" würde. Dieser Satz
8737     ist vollkommen unverständlich. Denn entweder ist etwas, oder es ist nicht.
8738 root 1.1 Das ist auch schon die ganze Logik einer Existenz. (Aristoteles: Satz vom
8739 root 1.388 ausgeschlossenen Dritten) Unlogisch wäre, wenn etwas ist, das nicht ist oder
8740 root 1.1 wenn etwas nicht ist, das ist.
8741    
8742 root 1.388 Von der Unfähigkeit des Menschen, sich einen unbegrenzten aber endlichen
8743 root 1.1 Raum (oder wie auch immer der Weltraum nun aussieht) vorzustellen auf die
8744 root 1.388 "Unlogik der Existenz" zu schließen, ist aber wohl nicht ganz möglich, zumal
8745     eine Existenz nicht unlogisch sein kann. Was sollte das auch heißen? Daher
8746 root 1.1 ist das Problem, das Ren aufwirft, nur ein Scheinproblem. Die Existenz an
8747 root 1.388 sich wird nicht in Frage gestellt dadurch, daß man sich etwas - egal was -
8748 root 1.1 nicht vorstellen kann. Er verwechselt die Begriffe "unlogisch" und
8749     "unvorstellbar".
8750    
8751     Thomas.Decker@lrz.uni-muenchen.de
8752 root 1.387 %
8753 root 1.1 Marcel Richter wrote:
8754     > Marcel Richter - IQ: 3538327
8755     ^^^
8756     fehlt da nicht irgendwo ein Komma.... =?-)
8757 root 1.387 %
8758 root 1.1 The X server has to be the biggest program I've ever seen that doesn't
8759     do anything for you. --Ken Thompson
8760 root 1.387 %
8761 root 1.1 linux-2.1.92/fs/autofs/root.c:
8762     printk("autofs: trying to recover, but prepare for Armageddon\n");
8763 root 1.387 %
8764 root 1.1 >>Vincent DiPietro, the discoverer of the face on mars, has thrown in
8765     >>the towel, and said that the face on mars is a pile of rocks.
8766     >Was sollte es denn sonst sein?
8767    
8768     An artificial pile of rocks.
8769 root 1.387 %
8770 root 1.1 > ps: mal nebenbei: eine unbekannte variable beim analysieren des
8771     > marsgesichtes ist es, dass mensch gar nicht weiss, wie die lebende,
8772     > gedachte oder sonstige vorlage eigentlich aussieht. dazu kommt natuerlich
8773     > noch das fehlende wissen um die intention des "kuenstlers", ob er
8774     > beispielsweise nur aspekte bzw. partien eines gesichtes integrieren wollte
8775     > - und natuerlich, ob es ueberhaupt kunst ist:)
8776    
8777     Ganz genau. Und das Matterhorn ist eine palaeoimpressionistische Studie des
8778     Geruchsorgans der Rasse der Ciabattanimalier. Aber das wussten hier
8779     sicherlich schon alle. Das ganze Universum ist ausserdem eigentlich nur ein
8780     grosser Flipperautomat.
8781    
8782     Christoph Schulte Moenting - ubec@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
8783 root 1.387 %
8784 root 1.1 > Kris Weilemann schrieb
8785     >
8786     > >MIR ging es neulich aehnlich. Ich wurde von Ausserirdischen entfuehrt.
8787     > >Ich wurde eingesperrt in einem dunklem Raum mit langen Sitzreihen und mit
8788     > >einer Popcorn-artigen Substanz gefuettert. Nach 2 Stunden war alles
8789     > >vorbei. Einen Tag spaeter stellte ich fest, dass mir 18 Mark im
8790     > >Geldbeutel fehlten. Ist das nicht krass? -Kris.
8791 root 1.387 %
8792 root 1.388 ... Jazz ist nicht nur das erfolgreichste, sondern auch das einzige originäre Kunstgenre,
8793     daß die USA jemals hervorgebracht haben.
8794 root 1.1
8795     "Apropos Musik", HR2 am 16.4.98
8796 root 1.387 %
8797 root 1.1 http://www.rsw.com/
8798    
8799     The Unix shell as a 4GL
8800    
8801     Unix provides hundreds of programs that can be piped together to easily
8802     perform almost any function imaginable. Nothing comes close to providing the
8803     functions that come standard with Unix. Programs and philosophies carried
8804     over from other systems put walls between the user and Unix, and the power
8805     of Unix is thrown away. The shell, extended with a few relational operators,
8806     is the fourth generation database scripting language most appropriate to the
8807     Unix environment.
8808 root 1.387 %
8809 root 1.1 Perl is incredibly difficult to parse. For example, what's the difference
8810     between these:
8811    
8812     time /3 ;#/; print "hello";
8813     sin /3 ;#/; print "goodbye";
8814    
8815     Right. The first one is time divided by 3, and the print is in a comment.
8816     The second one is the sin of the result of a regular expression match for "3
8817     ;#", and the print gets executed!
8818    
8819     There's no pure BNF in the world that'll handle that. And remember, with
8820     "use" and prototypes available, whether you parse something like "sin" or
8821     "time" depends on its definition in some other file, somewhere in the galaxy
8822     (or even decided by Perl code in a BEGIN block, that evals a prototype!).
8823    
8824     Which led Larry to say at one point: "the only thing that can parse Perl is
8825     'perl'".
8826    
8827     --
8828     Randal L. Schwartz
8829 root 1.387 %
8830 root 1.1 Ronald J Kimball <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu> writes:
8831    
8832     > Pascal AMRAM wrote:
8833     > > Subject: MSEXCHANGE / OUTLOOK
8834     >
8835     > So here I am trying to figure out what an M sex change is....
8836    
8837     It's obviously the opposite of an F sex change. HTH.
8838    
8839     --
8840     Jonathan Feinberg jdf@pobox.com Sunny Brooklyn, NY
8841 root 1.387 %
8842 root 1.1 The management (my cats) made me say this.
8843 root 1.387 %
8844 root 1.1 uae-0.6.9/custom.c:800:
8845     write_log ("Program is torturing BPLCON1.\n");
8846 root 1.387 %
8847 root 1.1 uae-0.6.9/src/memory.c:363
8848     write_log ("Your Amiga program just did something terribly stupid\n");
8849 root 1.387 %
8850 root 1.1 Closures make sense in any programming language where you
8851     can have the return value of a function be itself a
8852     function, as you can in Perl. Note that some languages
8853     provide anonymous functions but are not capable of
8854     providing proper closures; the Python language, for
8855     example.
8856 root 1.387 %
8857 root 1.1 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to
8858     resemble a nail.
8859 root 1.387 %
8860 root 1.1 > but all I get are 501 errors, method not supported. I am not 100% sure what
8861     > I did wrong.
8862    
8863     What you did wrong was post a microsoft server question to a perl
8864     newsgroup.
8865 root 1.387 %
8866 root 1.1 I am trying to learn Perl on my Windows 97 system. In particular...
8867 root 1.387 %
8868 root 1.388 >Es kamen Außerirdische, die Pyramiden bauten und andere Wunder
8869     >vollbrachten. Dafür wurden sie vergöttert. Diese außerirdischen bauten dann
8870 root 1.1 >wahrscheinlich auch die Cydonia Region.
8871    
8872     Etwa zehnmal zu oft 'Stargate' gesehen, was?
8873 root 1.387 %
8874 root 1.388 >Die Menschheit kämpft seit Millionen von Jahren gegeneinander.
8875 root 1.1
8876 root 1.388 Welche Hälfte ist denn da die grössere? :o)
8877 root 1.387 %
8878 root 1.1 ...am still rebuilding after being hit with a clock changing virus it reset
8879     my clock to 2039 unfortunately for me my OS is beta 98 needless to say it
8880     expired instantly!!!
8881 root 1.387 %
8882 root 1.1 From: Per Bothner <bothner@cygnus.com>
8883     To: Pal Engstad <engstad@hunt.inmet.com>
8884    
8885     > Linus Torvalds requires that all code in the source is using a tab
8886     > length of 8 spaces, and he also states that you are a bad programmer
8887     > if you write code with more than 3 indentation levels.
8888    
8889     I didn't know that Linus Torvalds has done research on programming styles.
8890     He much have, since why else would you have the audacity quote him as
8891     an authority, on a list where there are dozens of people with more
8892     than double Linus's programming experience?
8893    
8894     > This has caused the code to be fairly easy to read and maintainance is
8895     > pretty straight forward.
8896    
8897     Irrelevant - a kernel is a lot simpler than an optimizing compiler,
8898     in terms of complexity of algorithms and data structures.
8899 root 1.387 %
8900 root 1.1 Nach der Diskussion muss ich akzeptieren, dass die juengst erfolgte
8901     Erdbeschleunigung von - 0,6 auf - 0,4 Millisekunden kein zwingender Beweis
8902     fuer einen Permanentantrieb ist. Aber: In letzter Zeit kommt es bei mir immer
8903     wieder vor, dass ich Dinge einfach weiss. Selbst wenn ich sie nicht begruenden
8904     kann. Ich weiss trotzdem dass sie stimmen muessen und der Antrieb existiert.
8905     Mit der Zeit findet sich dann auch die Begruendung.
8906 root 1.387 %
8907 root 1.1 Wir suchen neue AussenMitarbeiterInnen... (S.Pernar@Link-Goe)
8908 root 1.387 %
8909 root 1.1 hyperltext (hy'perl-text), n. double-quotish-interpolated hypertext markup:
8910     Example:
8911     print qq[[<LI><A HREF="$self->[[url]]">@[[[ucfirst $self->[[title]]]]]</A>\n]];
8912 root 1.387 %
8913 root 1.1 liperlsuction: What happens to any script longer than 10 lines once
8914     Randal gets his hands on it
8915 root 1.387 %
8916 root 1.1 Uperl Volta - country where perl programmers control the electricity.
8917 root 1.387 %
8918 root 1.1 > Anybody successfully installed the win32 version of Perl?
8919    
8920     No! Millions of people don't use perl on win32 machines. You may be the
8921     first if you get it working.
8922 root 1.387 %
8923 root 1.1 > Macintosh.
8924     > Think different.
8925    
8926     Think Again.
8927 root 1.387 %
8928 root 1.1 Bill.Cilnton@dyselxia.com
8929 root 1.387 %
8930 root 1.1 tsatan@hotmail.com writes:
8931     > Why does perl have the "push" and "unshift" functions? ...
8932     > push @nums, 4; is the same as @nums = (@nums, 4);
8933    
8934     What do you want, Scheme? ;)
8935 root 1.387 %
8936 root 1.1 # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'.
8937     # It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
8938 root 1.387 %
8939 root 1.1 | I am returning this otherwise good typing paper to you because
8940     | someone has printed gibberish all over it and put your name at the
8941     | top.
8942 root 1.387 %
8943 root 1.1 I had a student ask about the UN9 operating system. I didn't understabd what
8944     he was talking about so he wrote UNIX on the board.
8945 root 1.387 %
8946 root 1.1 On 1 Apr 98 17:34:23 GMT, Schulung7 wrote:
8947     ^^^^^^^^^
8948     >Was haltet ihr vom UFO-Absturz in Rosswell?
8949    
8950     Nichts. Und jetzt geh woanders spielen.
8951 root 1.387 %
8952 root 1.1 >Kann man hier irgendwie mal die UFOs reinbringen, um die es in dieser NG
8953     >gehen soll?
8954    
8955 root 1.388 Nein, der Datentyp wäre inkompatibel. UFOs sind per Definitionem
8956 root 1.1 materielle Objekte (obwohl das zur Zeit fraglich ist ;-), die sich in
8957     diesem Medium nicht austauschen lassen.
8958 root 1.387 %
8959 root 1.1 Wer redet hier denn von der "Hui Hui"? Ich sprach von "Hui! Hui!".
8960 root 1.387 %
8961 root 1.388 >> nein...ist kein Sender. Eine taiwanesische Sekte hat behauptet, daß am
8962     >> 25.3. auf allen TVs der Welt Gott auf Kanal 18 erscheinen würde.
8963 root 1.1 >> Ist natuerlich nicht eingetreten.
8964     >
8965     >Aber unsere Haus-Sat-Anlage geht seither nicht mehr.
8966    
8967     Ein Zeichen! Er hat uns ein Zeichen gegeben! Zieht alle euren linken
8968     Schuh aus!
8969 root 1.387 %
8970 root 1.1 >Klingt nach Erdstillstand.
8971    
8972 root 1.388 Ich bin entsetzt. Man hat hoffentlich sofort Wiederbedrehungsmaßnahmen
8973 root 1.1 eingeleitet?
8974 root 1.387 %
8975 root 1.1 Mars Global Surveyor Imaging Schedule
8976    
8977    
8978     First opportunity
8979     Approximate
8980     Orbit Internet
8981     Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
8982    
8983     4-3-98 09:58/1:58 a.m. 216 Viking Lander 1 April 6
8984     4-3-98 21:37/1:37 p.m. 217 Viking Lander 2 April 7
8985     4-4-98 09:16/1:16 a.m. 218 Mars Pathfinder April 7
8986     4-5-98 08:33/12:33 a.m. 220 Cydonia April 6 (mid-a.m.)
8987    
8988     Second opportunity
8989     Approximate
8990     Orbit Internet
8991     Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
8992    
8993     4-12-98 15:23/ 8:23 a.m. 235 Viking Lander 1 April 14
8994     4-13-98 03:01/ 8:01 p.m. 236 Viking Lander 2 April 15
8995     4-13-98 14:40/ 7:40 a.m. 237 Mars Pathfinder April 15
8996     4-14-98 13:57/ 6:57 a.m. 239 Cydonia April 14 (mid-p.m.)
8997    
8998     Third opportunity
8999     Approximate
9000     Orbit Internet
9001     Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
9002    
9003     4-21-98 20:45/1:45 p.m. 254 Viking Lander 1 April 23
9004     4-22-98 08:23/1:23 a.m. 255 Viking Lander 2 April 24
9005     4-22-98 20:02/1:02 p.m. 256 Mars Pathfinder April 24
9006     4-23-98 19:18/12:18 p.m. 258 Cydonia April 24 (mid-a.m.)
9007    
9008 root 1.387 %
9009 root 1.1 > >2. Der Menschheit ist durch Inzucht entstanden. Laut biologischem
9010 root 1.388 > >Wissen, unwahrscheinlich, da Mutation und Mißbildungen auftreten
9011     > >würden.
9012 root 1.1 >
9013     > Vermutung: Das ist auch aufgetreten. Siehe levitische "Gesetze" zur
9014     > "Behandlung" von "Aussatz" insb. im 3. "Mose". Die hatten schon Probleme.
9015     Sag mal, bei Dir piepts wohl nicht mehr richtig! Aussatz, heute besser
9016     unter dem Namen Lepra bekannt, ist keine Erbkrankheit. Es ist eine
9017     (heute heilbare) Infektionskrankheit, verursacht durch Bakterien.
9018     Also nichts von Inzucht, wie Du das in Deinem latenten Rassenwahn
9019     implizierst.
9020 root 1.387 %
9021 root 1.1 > You might please start up with reading more than one sentence - a skill
9022     > quite familiar in Europe, but as it seems not in the USA.
9023 root 1.387 %
9024 root 1.1 Yup. Instead of crashing Xservers, now you have crashing kernels.
9025     Big improvement.
9026 root 1.387 %
9027 root 1.1 -- "Hey look, this new card is for windows and only $xx!"
9028     -- "Yes, but it's braindead and will hurt your performance. Take that one
9029     over there. Besides, it's not an ope.."
9030     -- "Why that one?"
9031     -- "Because it's better, sinc.."
9032     -- "But I can do the same with this one, it's cheaper, and its for windows!"
9033 root 1.387 %
9034 root 1.1 In der Klinik, in der ich mal arbeiten musste, hatten wir einen echten
9035     Koenig Ludwig II und mindestens fuenf Stueck Jesus - sowas gibts halt,
9036     wenn Du verstehst, was ich meine.
9037 root 1.387 %
9038 root 1.1 > Hast Du mal einen Stein beobachtet, der eine Unzahl komplexer
9039     > Vorgaenge paresentiert, einschliesslich der Hervorbringung
9040     > etlicher Lebensformen?
9041    
9042     Jepp. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "zahlreich".
9043    
9044     > Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der sich mal eben
9045     > "verwandelt", und auf dem dann lauter Wesen rumkrabbeln,
9046     > die aus ihm selbst entsprungen sind?
9047    
9048     Klar doch. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "lauter".
9049    
9050     > Ueberspitzt: Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der
9051     > ploetzlich zum Lebewesen wird und Dich fragt, wer oder was
9052     > er eigentlich ist?
9053    
9054 root 1.388 Tja, da hören die Übereinstimmungen auf. Ich dachte Du meinst
9055 root 1.1 Erwin Stein. Den kenne ich. Der hat zwei Kinder. Die krabbeln
9056 root 1.388 ab und zu auf ihm herum. Der ist aber nicht plötzlich zum Le-
9057 root 1.1 bewesen geworden, sondern den gibt es nun schon ein wenig
9058 root 1.388 länger. Und er hat mich auch noch nie gefragt, wer oder was
9059 root 1.1 er eigentlich ist. Zumindest nicht in einem Zustand, den man
9060 root 1.388 als "normal" bezeichnen könnte. So wird das anscheinend nix.
9061 root 1.1 Ciao
9062     Stefan
9063 root 1.387 %
9064 root 1.1 "These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After
9065     unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including
9066     all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer."
9067     (http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/pc99.htm)
9068 root 1.387 %
9069 root 1.1 Video cards have write-only registers. (of course that is bad design) Let's
9070     say that register 13 is write-only, as is common. It holds an index that
9071     determines what register 69 (also write-only) actually changes. If you write
9072     to register 13 while the accelerator is active, you lock the PCI bus. You
9073     can't determine if the accelerator is active without reading from register
9074     42, but you can't interpret the contents of that register correctly without
9075     knowing what the last accelerator command was. Reading from register 13 gets
9076     you some useless (unrelated) info and _also_ toggles the accelerator on and
9077     off.
9078 root 1.387 %
9079 root 1.1 Join the Army,
9080     Meet interesting people,
9081     Kill them.
9082 root 1.387 %
9083 root 1.1 > Wie entsteht Materie? Ich koennte mir vorstellen, dass Energie in Materie
9084     > umwandelbar ist.
9085    
9086     E=m*c^2 (Schon mal gehoert?) (Schon mal verstanden??)
9087 root 1.387 %
9088 root 1.388 >nach der die Pygmäen geheime UFO-Basen in ausgehöhlten Baumstämmen
9089 root 1.1 >unterhalten (Vorsicht: das war ein Witz :-) ).
9090 root 1.387 %
9091 root 1.1 > (Bernhard Nahrgang) wrote:
9092     >
9093     > >> Logische Annahme: Die Erde waechst entweder kontinuierlich, oder periodisch
9094     > >> ruckartig.
9095     > >wie kann jemand mit dem IQ von 130 nur SO SELTEN BLOEDE sein??
9096     >
9097 root 1.388 > Norbert ist nicht selten blöde...
9098 root 1.1
9099     :-)
9100 root 1.387 %
9101 root 1.1 SAT 1 Teletext: Ein Asteroid mit einem Durchmesser von fast einem Kilometer
9102 root 1.388 rast mit großer Geschwindigkeit auf die Erde zu. US-Astronomen befürchten:
9103     "XF11" könnte im Jahr 2028 auf der Erde einschlagen. Die Folgen wären
9104 root 1.1 verheerend. "Der rasende Stein aus dem All ist eine Gefahr", warnt Jack G.
9105     Hills vom US-Kernforschungszentrum Los Alamos: "Wenn er die Erde trifft,
9106     wird er die Sprengkraft von 320.000 Megatonnen Dynamit haben." Das
9107     entspricht dem Zweimillionenfachen der Atombombe...
9108    
9109     ARD/ZDF Teletext: ASTEROID MIT KURS AUF ERDE ENTDECKT Amerikanische
9110     Astronomen haben einen Asteroiden ausgemacht, der in 30 Jahren der Erde
9111 root 1.388 gefährlich nahekommen wird. Die Gefahr, daß der Asteroid einschlagen wird,
9112     sei gering, aber auch nicht völlig auszuschließen. Nach derzeitigen
9113 root 1.1 Berechnungen wird der Asteroid mit der Bezeichnung "1997 XF11" am 26.Oktober
9114 root 1.388 2028 unserem Planeten am nächsten kommen. "1997 XF11" hat etwa einen
9115     Durchmesser von 1,6 Kilometern. Erstmals käme ein Objekt dieser Größe der
9116     Erde so nahe, hieß es in dem Bericht der Internationalen Astronomischen
9117 root 1.1 Union.
9118    
9119 root 1.388 RTL Teletext: Himmelskörper rast auf Erde zu Ein Asteroid wird im Jahr 2028
9120     der Erde gefährlich nahe kommen. Amerikanische Wissenschaftler haben die
9121 root 1.1 Chance eines Zusammenpralls auf eins zu tausend berechnet. Sollte der
9122 root 1.388 Asteroid, der einen Durchmesser von 1,8 Kilometern hat, aufprallen, könnte
9123     er eine gigantische Flutwelle auslösen, so die Forscher. Auch ein genaues
9124     Datum haben die Wissenschaftler schon errechnet: Von Europa aus wäre das
9125 root 1.1 Naturschauspiel am 26. Oktober 2028 zu beobachten.
9126 root 1.387 %
9127 root 1.1 * Linux Viruscan.....
9128     Windows 95 Found Remove it ? (Y/y)
9129 root 1.387 %
9130 root 1.1 >>Hmm, welche Behauptungen entsprechen denn deiner Meinung nach der
9131 root 1.388 >>Realität?
9132 root 1.1 >>
9133     >>Das es das FBI wirklich gibt?
9134 root 1.388 >>Das Scully frigide ist, und deshalb mit Mulder nichts anfangen möchte?
9135     >>Das Mulder homosexuell ist, und deshalb mit Scully nichts anfangen möchte?
9136 root 1.1 >>Das der CSM einen Vertrag mit Marlb*ro hat?
9137     >
9138     >Hinter diesen "Fragen" erkenne ich z.B. eine gut bekannte Strategie. Die
9139     >FBI-Frage ist bewusst absurd. Das Abgleiten ins Sexuelle hat ebenfalls
9140 root 1.387 %
9141 root 1.1 "'You're a Cirrus. You're crap. I'm an S3. I rule. Thank you and please drive through.'"
9142 root 1.387 %
9143 root 1.1 > How could you have perl take a set of numbers (1,2,3,4) and put them
9144     > into a random order???
9145     >
9146    
9147     @array=qw(1 2 3 4);
9148     print "@array[1,3,2,0]\n";
9149    
9150     I've checked this against other possible random orderings
9151     of these numbers, and this ordering is at least as random as
9152     any of the other possible ones. The benefit of this one being
9153     that it begins with the number 2, which is my favorite random
9154     number less than 42.
9155 root 1.387 %
9156 root 1.1 From what I am reading Win98 and NT5.0 will be getting rid of all that
9157     crap anyway. Seems that Microsoft has invented something called TCP/IP and
9158     another really revolutionary concept called DNS that eliminates the
9159     netbios crap too. All that arping from browsers is going to go away.
9160     I also hear rumors that they are on the verge of breakthrough discoveries
9161     called NFS, and LPD too. Given enough time and money, they might
9162     eventually invent Unix.
9163 root 1.387 %
9164 root 1.1 In Germany, where typeface design has always been a significant part of
9165     the cultural heritage, and where typefounding has remained an important
9166     business, there are more than one kind of copyright-like protections for
9167     typefaces. Certain long-standing industrial design protection laws have
9168     been used to protect typeface designs in litigation over royalties and
9169     plagiarisms. Further, there is a recent law, the so-called
9170     "Schriftzeichengesetz" enacted in 1981, that specifically protects
9171     typeface designs. New designs are registered, as is done with
9172     copyright in most countries. This law only protects new, original
9173     designs. It is available to non-German designers and firms. Therefore,
9174     some type firms and designers routinely copyright new designs in West
9175     Germany. This gives a degree of protection for products marketed in
9176     Germany. Since multinational corporations may find it cheaper to
9177     license a design for world-wide use rather than deal with a special case
9178     in one country, the German law does encourage licensing on a broader
9179     scale than would initially seem to be the case.
9180 root 1.387 %
9181 root 1.1 [linux processes vs. nt/solaris threads]
9182     Rob Pike pointed out that the solution to slow process creation is
9183     faster process creation, not another kernel abstraction.
9184 root 1.387 %
9185 root 1.1 Does anybody know how to communicate between a PC and a modem,
9186     using a Perl CGI script?
9187 root 1.387 %
9188 root 1.1 >I really don't know crap about PERL. How is it different from JAVA?
9189    
9190     One tiny difference: Java can crash your browser. It happened to me last
9191     week.
9192 root 1.387 %
9193 root 1.1 Brieweb> I heard Randal Schwartz say he could write an entire httpd server in 90 lines
9194     Brieweb> of PERL.
9195     No, that's an http *proxy* server. A simple web server is much shorter.
9196     From "perldoc HTTP::Daemon"...
9197     [Randal Schwartz]
9198 root 1.387 %
9199 root 1.1 But the possibility of abuse may be a good reason for leaving
9200     capabilities out of other computer languages, it's not a good reason
9201     for leaving capabilities out of Perl.
9202     [Larry Wall in `Macros'. [[perl5-porters]]]
9203 root 1.387 %
9204 root 1.1 Yes: Java's main advantage over Perl is that it's hard to use for casual
9205     programmers, so keeps all but the most intrepid programmers away from it.
9206     It has no decent support for string processing, allowing you to spend
9207     hours at useless debugging. It has a very restrictive and static system
9208     to make sure you don't try anything interesting. It makes sure that you
9209     use objects, by golly, because James Gosling said so. It's easy for C++
9210     programmers to use, and hard for shell or BASIC programmers to use. It
9211     also only runs on a few systems, locking its customers into a a closed
9212     system and restricting their options.
9213     [Tom Christiansen in `Java Vs. Perl']
9214 root 1.387 %
9215 root 1.1 <Bill_Gates> Where do you want to go today?
9216     <Phase_5> Where do go tomorrow?
9217     <BlueFlux> Where were you yesterday?!?!
9218 root 1.387 %
9219 root 1.1 "It's not to control, but to protect the citizens of Singapore. In our
9220     society, you can state your views, but they have to be correct."
9221     Ernie Hai
9222     Coordinator of Singapore Government Internet Project
9223 root 1.387 %
9224 root 1.1 : I very much prefer a useful error message than a "it produced the wrong
9225     : results" report from the users.
9226    
9227     if i got even "it produced the wrong results" from our users, i would
9228     be in 7th heaven. ours often mail us with such insightful requests as
9229     "can you tell me my email address?" no, sorry, that should be "CAN U
9230     TEL ME MY E MAIL ADRES DUDE?!!!?? HURRY!!!"
9231 root 1.387 %
9232 root 1.1 There are many intelligent species in the Universe.
9233     They are all owned by cats.
9234 root 1.387 %
9235 root 1.1 Why dignify your unsustainable, unjustifiable, unprovable feeble
9236     attempts at character assassination with anything resembling a reply?
9237     You only make yourself look foolish by mouthing off like that.
9238 root 1.387 %
9239 root 1.1 From: L & K Olson <kolson@mbnet.mb.ca>
9240     Subject: If they wrote error messages in haiku ...
9241    
9242     Yesterday it worked
9243     Today it is not working
9244     Windows is like that
9245     - - -
9246     wind catches lily
9247     scatt'ring petals to the wind:
9248     segmentation fault
9249     - - -
9250     Three things are certain:
9251     Death, taxes, and lost data.
9252     Guess which has occurred.
9253     - - -
9254     A file that big?
9255     It might be very useful.
9256     But now it is gone.
9257     - - -
9258     Windows NT crashed.
9259     I am the Blue Screen of Death.
9260     No one hears your screams.
9261     - - -
9262     Errors have occurred.
9263     We won't tell you where or why.
9264     Lazy programmers.
9265     - - -
9266     Seeing my great fault
9267     Through darkening blue windows
9268     I begin again
9269     - - -
9270     The code was willing,
9271     It considered your request,
9272     But the chips were weak.
9273     - - -
9274     Printer not ready.
9275     Could be a fatal error.
9276     Have a pen handy?
9277     - - -
9278     Server's poor response
9279     Not quick enough for browser.
9280     Timed out, plum blossom.
9281     - - -
9282     Chaos reigns within.
9283     Reflect, repent, and reboot.
9284     Order shall return.
9285     - - -
9286     Login incorrect.
9287     Only perfect spellers may
9288     enter this system.
9289     - - -
9290     This site has been moved.
9291     We'd tell you where, but then we'd
9292     have to delete you.
9293     - - -
9294     ABORTED effort:
9295     Close all that you have.
9296     You ask way too much.
9297     - - -
9298     First snow, then silence.
9299     This thousand dollar screen dies
9300     so beautifully.
9301     - - -
9302     With searching comes loss
9303     and the presence of absence:
9304     "My Novel" not found.
9305     - - -
9306     The Tao that is seen
9307     Is not the true Tao, until
9308     You bring fresh toner.
9309     - - -
9310     The Web site you seek
9311     cannot be located but
9312     endless others exist
9313     - - -
9314     Stay the patient course
9315     Of little worth is your ire
9316     The network is down
9317     - - -
9318     A crash reduces
9319     your expensive computer
9320     to a simple stone.
9321     - - -
9322     There is a chasm
9323     of carbon and silicon
9324     the software can't bridge
9325     - - -
9326     To have no errors
9327     Would be life without meaning
9328     No struggle, no joy
9329     - - -
9330     You step in the stream,
9331     but the water has moved on.
9332     This page is not here.
9333     - - -
9334     No keyboard present
9335     Hit F1 to continue
9336     Zen engineering?
9337     - - -
9338     Hal, open the file
9339     Hal, open the damn file, Hal
9340     open it, please Hal
9341     - - -
9342     Out of memory.
9343     We wish to hold the whole sky,
9344     But we never will.
9345     - - -
9346     Having been erased,
9347     The document you're seeking
9348     Must now be retyped.
9349     - - -
9350     The ten thousand things
9351     How long do any persist?
9352     Netscape, too, has gone.
9353     - - -
9354     Rather than a beep
9355     Or a rude error message,
9356     These words: "File not found."
9357     - - -
9358     Serious error.
9359     All shortcuts have disappeared
9360     Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
9361 root 1.387 %
9362 root 1.1 "The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way
9363     to factor large prime numbers." -- Bill Gates from "The Road Ahead," p. 265.
9364 root 1.387 %
9365 root 1.1 > What is the Windows equivalent of the first line used for
9366     > UNIX (#!/usr/local/bin/perl) that tells where the Perl interpreter is?
9367    
9368     Windows hasn't gotten quite as far in functionality as, say, BSD Unix in the
9369     early 1980s.
9370 root 1.387 %
9371 root 1.1 > I have a chat script, that will work fine for a bit then after a while
9372     > the private messages will stop working. It might be because I changed
9373     > something, but chances are that isn't the case. I re-install a fresh
9374     > copy, paths are correct, and they still don't work
9375    
9376     I think you are experiencing GOVERNMENT CONTROL. You see, everyone
9377     with a chat script is being scrutinised by the department of CHAT
9378     control. Whenever they see some message they don't like, they
9379     introduce some little goblin called feature-creep in your program. if
9380     you have lots of these little devils, your program migth acquire so
9381     many new features that it just stops working.
9382    
9383     This also applies to Microsoft products.
9384    
9385     > Does it make sense for certain features to just not work?! If you can
9386     > help, or have suggestions, get back to me, PLEASE:)
9387    
9388     Yes, it makes perfect sense. Especially if they're features which
9389     really are bugs. And especially if they're 'private' messages. You
9390     know perfectly well that the government doesn't like private messages.
9391    
9392     Hope this explains what's going on
9393     Martien Verbruggen
9394 root 1.387 %
9395 root 1.1 ...code? If you're on a misconfigured NT server (is that redundant?), you...
9396 root 1.387 %
9397 root 1.1 X11R6.1-based free X server compiles, links and crashes under IRIX(TM).
9398 root 1.387 %
9399 root 1.1 -------------- please bite here ------------- bitte hier abbeissen ---------
9400 root 1.387 %
9401 root 1.1 "Frag mal, auf was fuer uptimes man kommt, wenn man Software-Entwicklung
9402     unter NT macht..." "Das koennen bis zu dreissig Minuten werden - in der
9403     Mittagspause." -- Andreas Bogk, Kai Fett, de.alt.sysadmin.recovery
9404 root 1.387 %
9405 root 1.1 > ++ A lot of posters here have .sigs that include perl one liners.
9406     > ++ Is there a safe way to run them, and be assured that they wont
9407     > ++ damage and/or erase files? (or e-mail off my shadow file)
9408     >
9409     > Just make sure you understand it ;)
9410    
9411     I nominate Abigail for best response of the year with this one. Come to
9412     think of it, I nominate it for best response of next year, too.
9413 root 1.387 %
9414 root 1.1 Your moderator will be spending the next week on a beach on a small island
9415     where the phones don't work very well, so there won't be any comp.compilers
9416     until the 28th. Any messages you send in will wait here until I get back and
9417     should be posted on March 1st or 2nd.
9418 root 1.387 %
9419 root 1.1 But now, in comp.lang.perl.misc, you have a bunch of people who aren't
9420     even asking how to make the pieces fit together, but what the
9421     individual pieces are. ("How do I get my lego project to roll accross
9422     the table?" "You use one of those pieces that have the wheels
9423     attached.") Or questions that aren't about building at all. ("The
9424     motor stopped moving. How do I get it to start again?" "The batteries
9425     are probably dead. You can buy new batteries at any department or
9426     convienience store.")
9427 root 1.387 %
9428 root 1.1 : how do i make my perl script run?
9429     Get up at 91 minutes before dawn, clothe yourself in neon green body
9430 root 1.387 %
9431 root 1.1 for some reason Windoze users don't seem to expect docs to come with an archive
9432     %%> ToiLeTGoD
9433    
9434     Well, well.. I always wondered who/what made that flush thingy work.
9435     Pretty cool name, dude. (not)
9436 root 1.387 %
9437 root 1.1 Ummm...create "comp.lang.perl.wizards", make it moderated and all posts,
9438     including xposts, go into /dev/null. Most FAQers won't have the Usenet
9439     background to understand that such groups are either a) a wasteland
9440     populated (briefly) by persons like themselves, or b) point to /dev/null.
9441 root 1.387 %
9442 root 1.1 Lazy people never bother to actually read the manual. Instead they (like
9443     kids) pick something with big, colorful buttons.
9444     -- Eugene Tyurin <gene@insti.physics.sunysb.edu>
9445 root 1.387 %
9446 root 1.1 The Average Person's Axioms of First Order Predicate Logic:
9447     (A => B) => (B => A)
9448     (There exists) x A(x) => (For all) x A(x)
9449     (A => C) & (B => C) => (A => B) - Warren Vonroeschlaub
9450 root 1.387 %
9451 root 1.1 cal 9 1752
9452 root 1.387 %
9453 root 1.1 Installing unix fixes the [VMS] bug.
9454     -Barry Shein
9455 root 1.387 %
9456 root 1.1 And this horrible free-for-all will be left to children wondering around
9457     by themselves in the dark because they refuse to turn on the light and
9458     read the manual.
9459 root 1.387 %
9460 root 1.1 "SPARC" is "CRAPS" backwards --Rob Pike
9461 root 1.387 %
9462 root 1.1 I increasingly begin to understand why some universities require
9463     that its compsci majors study the Euclid's Prime Number Theorem,
9464     the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, Cantor's Diagonalization Proof,
9465     Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem, and the ramifications of Halting Problem
9466     in everyday life. These may not be involved in daily programming, but
9467     it helps develop a rigorous mind. And it gives those who would progress
9468     from typist to word-processor devotee to HTML documenter to CGI scripter
9469     to distributed multithreaded operating systems design specialist cause
9470     for pause. You just can't do that without proper training.
9471 root 1.387 %
9472 root 1.1 comp.lang.perl.i'm-from-microsoft-so-won't-read-documentation
9473 root 1.387 %
9474 root 1.1 I suggest you install a newsserver, and keep a local spool. Anything else
9475     is too much work, and fairly silly. The Internet has catupulted even
9476     the Wintel victims past the days of BBS toys.
9477 root 1.387 %
9478 root 1.1 > Help help! Pls advise me thru email.
9479    
9480     I advise you to buy a new keyboard; one that has all the keys you
9481     need.
9482 root 1.387 %
9483 root 1.1 Christian Fundamentalism: The doctrine that there is an absolutely
9484     powerful, infinitely knowledgeable, universe spanning entity that is
9485     deeply and personally concerned about my sex life.
9486 root 1.387 %
9487 root 1.1 I find the first particularly useful in destroying the miswrapped
9488     lines stemming from brain-damaged "it's just another word processor"
9489     newsreaders. You know,
9490     those postings that always seem to go to the edge of the line and then
9491     back
9492     again to the start, as this paragraph has. These are just too painful
9493     to read. Just kill them. It's not worth your time trying to figure
9494     out what they're saying.
9495 root 1.387 %
9496 root 1.1 It is most annoying to receive junk mail describing how to purchase 93
9497     million addresses, while knowing that yours is one of them.
9498 root 1.387 %
9499 root 1.1 I'm surprised Tom, how could it miss the "X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT;
9500     U)" header line? Personally, I find the attempted use of Netscape as a
9501     newsreader even worse then the attempted use of WinNT as an OS. :-)
9502    
9503     But the combination.... *sutters*
9504 root 1.387 %
9505 root 1.1 Hm... my new killfile isn't detecting you're posting from Windows.
9506     Darn it.
9507 root 1.387 %
9508 root 1.1 At least he didn't post in all caps.
9509 root 1.387 %
9510 root 1.1 http://language.perl.com/CPAN-local/doc/FAQs/cgi/idiots-guide.html
9511 root 1.387 %
9512 root 1.1 I think the biggest problem with M.S.A. is that the scripts work for Matt, but
9513     the majority of people trying to use them are from the
9514     "Wintel/AOL/FrontPage/push-a-button/HTML-is-programming/no-programming-required"
9515     school of non-learning. It isn't a problem with the code, per se, but with those
9516     trying to use it.
9517 root 1.387 %
9518 root 1.1 "Linux can emulate an C64 on my AMDK6PR200 at full speed. Windows can't."
9519 root 1.387 %
9520 root 1.1 cdog wrote:
9521     >
9522     > Is this group active?
9523     No.
9524    
9525     If you had spent half a second LOOKING at the group before posting, you
9526     probably could have come to that conclusion yourself.
9527    
9528     On a personal note, I died 3 years, 8 days, 5 minutes, 16 seconds, and
9529     345 milliseconds ago, but who's counting.
9530 root 1.387 %
9531 root 1.1 "Security through obscurity is no security at all."
9532     -comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup posting
9533 root 1.387 %
9534 root 1.1 "Windows 95 will now attempt to blow chunks across your primary partition.
9535     Press any key to continue..."
9536 root 1.387 %
9537 root 1.1 NT 5.0 is the last nail in the Unix coffin. Interestingly, Unix
9538     isn't in the coffin... It's wondering what the heck is sealing
9539     itself into a wooden box 6 feet underground...
9540 root 1.387 %
9541 root 1.1 The Wall St Journal (1996-01-22, page 1) reported that Cuba is
9542     considering jumping across the International Date Line, just so that
9543     it's the first into the year 2000. So it's possible you'll have to
9544     adjust your travel plans.
9545 root 1.387 %
9546 root 1.388 "Wo kämen wir hin, wenn alle sagten, wo kämen wir hin, und niemand ginge
9547     hin, um einmal zu schauen, wohin man käme, wenn man ginge." -- Kurt Marti
9548 root 1.387 %
9549 root 1.1 The Takeuchi function is a popular benchmark of function calling due to its
9550     highly recursive nature. It's defined as:
9551    
9552     tak x y z = z, if y >= x
9553     = tak (tak (x-1) y z) (tak (y - 1) z x) (tak (z - 1) x y), otherwise
9554    
9555     For this benchmark, the function is invoked as:
9556    
9557     tak 18 12 6
9558 root 1.387 %
9559 root 1.1 "Nobody will ever need more than 640k RAM!"
9560     -- Bill Gates
9561     "Windows 95 needs at least 8 MB RAM."
9562     -- Bill Gates
9563     "Nobody will ever need Windows 95."
9564     -- logical conclusion
9565 root 1.387 %
9566 root 1.1 Year Name James Bond Book
9567     - ---- -------------------------------- -------------- ----
9568     50's James Bond TV Series Barry Nelson
9569     1962 Dr. No Sean Connery 1958
9570     1963 From Russia With Love Sean Connery 1957
9571     1964 Goldfinger Sean Connery 1959
9572     1965 Thunderball Sean Connery 1961
9573     1967* Casino Royale David Niven 1954
9574     1967 You Only Live Twice Sean Connery 1964
9575     1969 On Her Majesty's Secret Service George Lazenby 1963
9576     1971 Diamonds Are Forever Sean Connery 1956
9577     1973 Live And Let Die Roger Moore 1955
9578     1974 The Man With The Golden Gun Roger Moore 1965
9579     1977 The Spy Who Loved Me Roger Moore 1962 (novelette)
9580     1979 Moonraker Roger Moore 1955
9581     1981 For Your Eyes Only Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
9582     1983 Octopussy Roger Moore 1965
9583     1983* Never Say Never Again Sean Connery
9584     1985 A View To A Kill Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
9585     1987 The Living Daylights Timothy Dalton 1965 (novelette)
9586     * -- Not a Broccoli production.
9587 root 1.387 %
9588 root 1.1 Windows NT: n.
9589     32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit
9590     operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written
9591     by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
9592 root 1.387 %
9593 root 1.388 Auf der Kiste läuft EHNIX, das ist ZUNIX kompatibel.