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1	root	1.445	Contrary to what Carrier says, it is not clear to me that Amy Frank or
2			anyone else accused him of sexual assault. Carrier’s lawsuit makes
3			the tenuous argument that Amy Frank implied sexual assault by using the
4			hashtag #sexualassault.
5
6			[https://freethoughtblogs.com/atrivialknot/2017/01/04/i-liked-richard-carrier-past-tense/]
7			%
8	root	1.444	From: Linus Torvalds
9
10			And yes, a large part of this may be that I no longer feel like I can
11			trust "init" to do the sane thing. You all presumably know why.
12
13			[https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/7/6/577]
14			%
15			> How is the old way a problem?
16
17			That's systemd in a nutshell (and pulseaudio too). Replace well-known
18			things that are not broken with something obscure and clunky that thinks
19			it's smarter than you.
20
21			[https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9170111&cid=52207557]
22			%
23	root	1.443	Systemd is a cancer and it will keep spreading until the host is
24			dead. Just like cancer it's not malicious, it sincerely believes it knows
25			better than the healthy cells it's infecting, but that doesn't make it
26			less lethal.
27
28			[https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9552479&cid=52745591]
29			%
30	root	1.442	From: Richard Stallman
31
32			[...]
33
34			> then that sounds like a layering violation.
35
36			The layering authority has no jurisdiction over GNU.
37			If this solution works, and nobody proposes a better one,
38			we won't let "layering" get in the way.
39			%
40	root	1.441	"Teyrnas Unedig Prydain Fawr a Gogledd Iwerddon" shortened to Teyrnas
41			"Unedig" or "Y Deyrnas Unedig" abbreviated "DU", or Rìoghachd Aonaichte
42			"Bhreatainn is Èireann a Tuath" shortened to Rìoghachd Aonaichte" are
43			"also now legal names for the UK.
44
45			[Brian Inglis in 774ac519-ceb1-7c04-d2b5-2f2ed851cb61@SystematicSw.ab.ca]
46			%
47			From: Russ Allbery
48			To: tz@iana.org
49			Message-ID: <87h97n58bp.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>
50
51			> Companies are unlikely to change their processes unless changes break
52			> existing processes (like the version change) or changes are documented
53			> in an RFC, which can be presented to SOx auditors and their ilk, to
54			> document and justify why they spent money and changed a process, along
55			> with the documentation on change impact including budget,
56			> authorizations, and the dozens of other side efforts of production
57			> changes, summarized above by DG as "That doesn’t work for everyone."
58
59			A bit of a digression, but the way companies treat free software projects
60			and maintainers is a pet peeve of mine.
61
62			It should be obvious that the only people a company can expect to follow
63			any of those rules are people the company is paying or otherwise has a
64			contractual relationship with that requires following those rules.
65			Otherwise, the company should be prepared to pay one of their employees to
66			jump through those hoops if they want those hoops jumped through.
67
68			It's standard practice for companies who depend heavily on a free software
69			project to have an internal maintainer or advocate for that free software
70			project who will translate whatever the public maintainer does into the
71			form that the company needs to manage it internally, including maintaining
72			private branches as needed, pulling up unreleased patches as needed, and
73			adjusting for upstream changes that don't match the needs of the company
74			(or clearly advocating for compromises or modifications that work for the
75			entire community). This is a cost of doing business. My employer
76			certainly does this for free software we use. It's fairly normal.
77
78			Some companies don't want to spend that money, and try to do it on the
79			cheap by not having that person or the mechanisms for importing free
80			software properly. A few of them then complain at the free software
81			maintainer when they run into problems. But those complaints should not
82			carry any more weight than the complaints of any other user, and should be
83			weighed against the work style, goals, and available time of the free
84			software maintainer. After all, the actor in this situation that has (by
85			far) the most resources and hence the most ability to adopt to changes,
86			whether they want to or not, is the company, not the free software
87			maintainer.
88			%
89	root	1.440	[About the Unicode CLDR (Common Locale Data Repository) project, specifically, timezone names]
90
91			They also seem to think that abbreviations should be only used locally,
92			such as "BST" only being used by British English. One would think that if
93			an American was talking about DST in the UK they would also use the term
94			"BST", but no:
95			http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8498
96			%
97			To: Time zone mailing list <tz@iana.org>
98			Subject: Re: [tz] Request regarding IANA update for Novosibirsk Time Zone
99
100			Shruthi Venkataramanan -X (shruthve - WIPRO LIMITED at Cisco) wrote:
101			> When can we expect the updated version
102
103			About three weeks ago.
104			%
105	root	1.439	[...] trying to make digital files uncopyable is like trying to make water
106			not wet. -- Bruce Schneier
107			%
108			[...] in order to be a good Christian one must first be a great hypocrite.
109
110			[http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.de/2013/06/the-bible-is-nothing-but-hearsay.html]
111			%
112	root	1.438	Know that you suck, you suck so much that you suck the future you wich
113			was able to go back in time to suck you from the past. You are an
114			neverending paradoxial loop of suckage. Now suck the fuck off.
115
116			[http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/vats-vs-rtwp.23266/page-2]
117			%
118			From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
119
120			Arthur David Olson <arthurdavidolson@gmail.com> writes:
121
122			> From The Economist: "Why time may be running out for the leap second"
123			[http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/11/economist-explains-4]
124
125			\| The first is simple, ancient and intuitive, and based on the rotation of
126			\| the Earth, under which each complete rotation (or, equivalently, each of
127			\| the Sun's apparent trips through the sky) counts as one day.
128
129			Of course, these are actually not equivalent; they're different by a
130			full day per year.
131			%
132	root	1.437	Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir
133			de la faire plus courte. -- Blaise Pascal, Provincial Letters : Letter XVI.
134			[I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time.]
135			%
136			File names are infinite in length where infinity is set to 255 characters.
137			-- Peter Collinson, "The Unix File System"
138			%
139			Over the past 20 years - its never been a question of the "perfect
140			storage media vendor" - its been a question of "who has screwed
141			me - lately?".
142			-- JSS, former Amiga HW Engineer, Rework tech of 400,000 defective
143			Seagate HDD's, Class of '94.
144
145			[http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1095235&cid=26492885]
146			%
147			I also proposed making malloc(0) perfectly fine, since zero is a perfectly
148			fine value. I also, in the same letter, proposed making zero-sized
149			arrays legal, mostly so you could do the extend-the-struct trick for a
150			variable-sized array as the last field of the struct.
151
152			I got two letters back as answer to my one. #1: Malloc(0) shouldn't work
153			because zero-sized arrays don't work. #2: Zero-sized arrays shouldn't work
154			because malloc(0) doesn't work. Well played, ANSI C committee, and may
155			your lives be a living hell.
156
157			[Rob Pike in https://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=4142#c2]
158			%
159	root	1.436	Using a screwdriver was not a normal part of the experimental protocol.
160			[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Slotin#Criticality_accident]
161			%
162			Newbie: Hi. I've been using Lisp for about half a year now, programming
163			for three years. I discovered this group and wondered if you could help me
164			out with a problem I'm having?
165
166			Smug: Hi! Always glad to have new blood. Sure thing, just ask.
167
168			Snide: Heya New! You bet, ask anything and we'll try to help.
169
170			Newbie: Okay, I'm trying to filter a list, something like Perl's grep. I
171			want to set up a predicate and have the new list be only those elements
172			from the old list that satisfy it. I know there's some standard idiom for
173			doing this, I just can't find it anywhere...
174
175			Smug: Perl's grep was inspired by Lisp's higher-order functions, you know. :)
176
177			Newbie: Oh, cool. :)
178
179			Smug: But it's inferior since it has balky syntax.
180
181			Snide: You can do it with (mapcan (lambda (item) (when (predicate item) (list item))) list).
182			[http://c2.com/]
183			%
184			Unfortunately a Russian spy stole the last meg of a LISP program for
185			controlling our nuclear defense systems. Fortunately, it was all
186			right-parenthesis.
187			[http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhyWeHateLisp]
188			%
189			Always wanted to travel back in time to try fighting a younger version of
190			yourself?
191			Software development is the career for you!
192
193			[https://twitter.com/Loh/status/411282297816498176]
194			%
195	root	1.435	[...] undisguised clarity is easily mistaken for arrogance.
196			-- Richard Dawkins
197			%
198			There are many choices of elliptic-curve signature systems. The standard
199			choice, ECDSA, is reasonable if you don't care about simplicity, speed,
200			and security.
201
202			[http://blog.cr.yp.to/20140323-ecdsa.html]
203			%
204			[In answer to: "Is the NSA aware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS? The RSA?"]
205
206			We are unaware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS when properly implemented and
207			used for the purposes for which they both are designed.
208			-— National Security Agency, June 1992
209			%
210			In the past decade there have been many attacks against TLS. With the
211			exception of CRIME, not one of them relied on any results that were not
212			known at the time the TLS 1.0 standard was being written. [...] Every time
213			this standards group has had a choice to make regarding cryptography,
214			they have made the wrong one. [...] Were TLS to be submitted by an
215			undergraduate as a solution to this problem it would earn an F.
216
217			[http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg10598.html]
218			%
219			tiny hsv2rgb
220			float3 h2r(float h,float s,float v){return lerp(saturate((abs(frac(h+float3(1,2,3)/3)6-3)-1)),1,s)v;}
221
222			vec3 hsv(float h,float s,float v) {
223			return mix(vec3(1.),clamp((abs(fract(h+vec3(3.,2.,1.)/3.)6.-3.)-1.),0.,1.),s)v;
224			}
225			%
226			Haha, no FPS counter but rather a "Next frame"-button :)
227			Only Java makes it possible!
228
229			[http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=7920&page=1]
230			%
231			'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and
232			generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is
233			extremely poettering''
234			%
235			"There is no use in arguing with a man who can multiply anything by the square root of minus 1."
236			-- Pirates of Venus, Edgar Rice Burroughs
237			%
238			"I drank what?!"
239			-- Socrates
240			%
241			It would be bad for OpenPGP to have a standard that could not be
242			implemented on light bulbs (I used to say cell phones, but they're now
243			400MHz devices), forcing the light bulb people to use something else.
244
245			Jon Callas in
246			http://www.imc.org/ietf-openpgp/mail-archive/msg06396.html
247			%
248			"If you have four groups working on a compiler, you'll get a 4-pass compiler."
249			-- Conway's Law
250			%
251			The mac version doesn't work on older versions of the operating system
252			(this is part of Apple's planned obsolescence hellhole; the latest version
253			of xcode won't build for older systems but I'm forced to update to it
254			because the older ones won't build for newer systems and I've been forced
255			to update the operating system on my ipad so UGH; basically I have to
256			have multiple xcode versions installed and I really can't be bothered
257			untangling this mess right now so).
258
259			[http://mightyvision.blogspot.de/2013/03/7drl-success-86856527.html]
260			%
261			Option "NoPM" "boolean"
262			Disables something to do with power management events. Default: PM
263			enabled on platforms that support it.
264			[xorg.conf(5)]
265			%
266			> Yes, this would be something _in addition_ to what the FSF does.
267			> Grant money could be used to hire one or two fresh graduates that
268			> would work on code.
269
270			Graduates in which discipline? Computer science? This sounds to me
271			like the idea to hire one or two fresh graduates in English literature
272			and language with the idea to let them start writing novels.
273			[87liaj740v.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org]
274			%
275	root	1.434	[and that's why I don't support gentoo anymore]
276			As with Francois, I used to use ccache for recompiling packages that
277			hadn’t finished the first time — but for a different reason. At
278			the time, I had overrated memory, and a BIOS without a memory clock
279			option. The system was generally fine, but once in awhile would scramble
280			a memory transfer enough to cause a crash. CCache was a LOT of help in
281			that instance, as it’s what allowed me to even install Gentoo at all —
282			there’s no way I could have gotten thru gcc, (monolitic) X, glibc, or
283			the then unsplit KDE compiles, without it.
284			%
285			Kay, you are so full of sh*t that it's not funny. You're refusing to
286			acknowledge your bugs, you refuse to fix them even when a patch is
287			sent to you, and then you make excuses for the fact that we have to
288			work around your bugs, and say that we should have done so from the
289			very beginning.
290			[Linus in http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1369384]
291			%
292			systemd creates user session information in
293			/run/user/$user . I brought up with lennart the fact that this would
294			only permit one session per user. He rejected out of hand the fact
295			that more than one session would ever be needed, because Gnome only
296			allowed one session per user.
297			[http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/04/msg00751.html]
298			%
299	root	1.433	> Mailman archives! IIRC Heiko mentioned that there are more disputes
300			> about Lennart Poettering and his software on ALL mailing lists, than
301			> about anything else.
302			>
303			> Why is it like that?
304
305			Probably because he has all the arrogance of DJB but none of the skill.
306
307			[http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/44574]
308			%
309			[from a discussion about GNOME 3 "branding" mentality]
310
311			>> However, there are a number of serious problems:
312			>>
313			>> 1. Extensions break with every release. As Paolo said earlier, "This is
314			>> simply the result of not (yet) having a defined extension API." Yet this is
315			>> also part of the design: extensions specify versions of gnome-shell they
316			>> work with, so are trivially broken by new versions even if they might work.
317			>
318			> I don't think you understand well why this was designed this way.
319
320			That's the sort of thing people say to the judge of a serial killer.
321			The reasons don't matter for calling the results terrible.
322			%
323			(partial) Beaufort Table
324			Name # km/h (min) m/s (min)
325			Calm 0 0 0
326			Light Air 1 1.1 0.3
327			Light Breeze 2 5.6 1.6
328			Gentle Breeze 3 12 3.4
329			Moderate Breeze 4 20 5.5
330			Fresh Breeze 5 29 8
331			Strong Breeze 6 39 10.8
332			Moderate Gale 7 50 13.9
333			Fresh Gale 8 62 17.2
334			Strong Gale 9 75 20.8
335			%
336			"I have an open mind (I did consider voting liberal democrat once)."
337			- random imdb forum quote excerpt
338			%
339			"Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure
340			sign of a diseased mind." [Terry Pratchett]
341			%
342			The butcher who kills the baby to see how it comes apart did choose his
343			profession because of his sensitive soul. He chose it because death and
344			suffering, blood and gore, appeal to him. Dismembering the baby was always
345			on the cards.
346			%
347			[random comment from amule sources]
348			// trust noone ;-)
349			// lol, useless comment but made me lmao
350			// wtf you guys are weird.
351			%
352	root	1.432	Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid.
353			- Kin Hubbard
354			%
355			[random .sig]
356			I'm a muslim.
357
358			No I won't email you a bomb if you tick me off, but only because I don't know how to.
359			%
360			[...] don't do a double-take if you cuss in front of a woman. If she's read any
361			of the kernel code (notably arch/sparc/), she's heard of the word "fuck"
362			before.
363
364			[Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO]
365			%
366			<imho>
367
368			BASIC - fun! (For small programs at least.)
369			Smalltalk - fun! (Until you have to interact with anything else.)
370			Lisp - fun! (Until your eyeballs fall out from looking at too many parentheses.)
371			Arduino sketches - fun! (As long as they fit on one page.)
372
373			ObjC - sort of fun...once you understand 200 Cocoa classes.
374			Java - public static void not fun.
375			C++ - definitely not fun. STL seems like it should be fun but it isn't.
376			C - usually not fun.
377
378			What about modern scripting languages?
379
380			JavaScript - sort of fun! Until you have to deal with the DOM or various not-fun frameworks.
381			Ruby - fun! Until you try to do something with Rails.
382			Python - fun! Until you try to write a GUI app.
383
384			</imho>
385
386			[http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/2/]
387			%
388			"Die deutschen Zensoren------------------- --------------------------
389			Dummköpfe-------- -------------------------------------------"
390			%
391
392			* GFX_IS_DISPLAY_MODE_SUPPORTED
393			*
394			* This routine sets the specified display mode.
395
396			n = n%2 ? n : ++n;
397			[plan9, /sys/src/cmd/eqn/paren.c]
398			%
399			# The user is always right.
400			if test "${PATH_SEPARATOR+set}" != set; then
401			[autoconf]
402			%
403			from linux-2.6.37/fs/fcntl.c:
404
405			/*
406			* We need to detect attempts to do dup2() over allocated but still
407			* not finished descriptor. NB: OpenBSD avoids that at the price of
408			* extra work in their equivalent of fget() - they insert struct
409			* file immediately after grabbing descriptor, mark it larval if
410			* more work (e.g. actual opening) is needed and make sure that
411			* fget() treats larval files as absent. Potentially interesting,
412			* but while extra work in fget() is trivial, locking implications
413			* and amount of surgery on open()-related paths in VFS are not.
414			* FreeBSD fails with -EBADF in the same situation, NetBSD "solution"
415			* deadlocks in rather amusing ways, AFAICS. All of that is out of
416			* scope of POSIX or SUS, since neither considers shared descriptor
417			* tables and this condition does not arise without those.
418			*/
419			%
420			Taken straight out of lilo... This way of intermixing case with if (0)
421			was new to me:
422
423			switch(c)
424			{
425			case 'x': base=16; type \|= 4; if(0) {
426			case 'o': base= 8; type \|= 4; } if(0) {
427			case 'u': base=10; type \|= 4; } if(0) {
428			case 'd': base=-10; }
429			switch(type)
430			{
431			case 0: val=va_arg(ap, short); break;
432			case 1: val=va_arg(ap, int); break;
433			case 2: val=va_arg(ap, long); break;
434			case 4: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned short); break;
435			case 5: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned int); break;
436			case 6: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned long); break;
437			default:val=0; break;
438			}
439			cp = __numout(val,base);
440			if(0) {
441			case 's':
442			cp=va_arg(ap, char *);
443			}
444			%
445			Also, it is not true that UTC-1 is THE civilian time scale. While it
446			is certainly one, physical seconds are as enshrined in law as UTC
447			timestamps. Try arguing that you weren't caught speeding at midnight
448			at the end of the year because the calculation should have used an
449			extra second and see how far you get :-)
450			[Nick Maclaren, in <8ta60d$aq6$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>]
451			%
452			> > Actually it's not fully backward compatible. As I was just reminded, the
453			> > libc `sync' function, which is what the fileutils sync uses (sync is in
454			> > fileutils, not sh-utils), is backward-compatible and thus not synchronous
455			> > (it passes a zero wait flag in file_syncfs).
456			>
457			> Hmm. Hurd sync should use the libc sync function too; it should not
458			> set the wait flag. If it does, that's a bug.
459
460			It must be a confusing feature, because the code was written by the
461			infamous Michael I. Bushnell (may he rest in peace), who did not write bugs.
462
463			[from a random discussion about hurd, 199901032206.RAA27962@baalperazim.frob.com]
464			%
465			It is immediately apparent from these figures that moving-arm disks
466			should never be used, neither for paging applications nor for any other
467			heavy-traffic auxiliary memory applications.
468
469			Peter J. Denning -- Virtual Memory (1970)
470
471			http://portal.acm.org/ft_gateway.cfm?id=356573&type=pdf&coll=portal&dl=ACM&CFID=15151515&CFTOKEN=6184618
472			%
473			(i was impatient to bikeshed with diego on code indenting... btw this
474			whole indentation rules/enforcement should gone, it's nonsense, i dont
475			know any coder who uses consistent indentation over all his code... only
476			beginner programmers do, sometimes. if anyone wants to read the code in
477			nice indentation, he can anytime run a code formatter with his favourite
478			settings)
479
480			http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2011-January/104674.html
481			%
482			How do I deal with memory leaks?
483
484			By writing code that doesn't have any. [...]
485
486			[From Bjarne Stroustrup's C++ Style and Technique FAQ]
487			%
488			This kind of arguments doesn't really make sense for Fedora. We should
489			ship the best implementation, not the most "tried and true" one.
490
491			http://www.devheads.net/linux/fedora/development/libjpeg-f14.htm
492			%
493			The situation in the US: If you do anything before 2067 to preserve the
494			recording on a wax-cylinder from 1895, the terrorists win. Do you really
495			hate hard-working American families that much? Thank God Senator Orrin
496			Hatch and the RIAA love America's children more than you do.
497
498			The situation in Europe: Sound recordings up to 1960 are already in the
499			public domain. The terrorists have won. Our only hope of restoring the
500			justice of eternal and infinite copyright (and therefore saving our own
501			children's lives!) lies in the selfless efforts of the likes of Bono and
502			Cliff Richard, as they cry all the way to the bank about artists not being
503			rewarded for their creativity.
504
505			Let's hope that by the time you finish reading this sentence, copyright
506			will have been extended another 99 years... you know, to justly compensate
507			that bloke sitting by a mic in 1895. If he'd thought that in 2066
508			librarians would be able to copy his recording without his permission, he
509			would never have made it in the first place.
510
511			http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52573
512			%
513			"I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in
514			future understand things" -- Jörg Schilling
515			%
516			Nobody has bought freaking 160GB of music from the iTunes store. I figured
517			it out once, conservatively it was like $53,000 of music. And yet somehow
518			Apple has managed to sell tens of millions of iPods with up to 160GB
519			capacity, and even the smaller iPods would cost many thousands of dollars
520			to fill from the iTunes store. The iPod was worthwhile because of piracy.
521
522			http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/09/intels-walled-garden-plan-to-put-av-vendors-out-of-business.ars?comments=1#comment-20806800
523			%
524			"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
525			Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
526			- Mohandas Gandhi
527			%
528			"And so I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
529			the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the
530			handiwork of the Lord."
531			- Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" Vol. I, chapter 2, Murphy Ed. (p. 46)
532			%
533			Scientific Scrutiny and Disclosure
534
535			I was wondering how anyone possibly could conclude from this exchange that
536			Lenski was hiding something. I came to the conclusion that some people
537			must not understand how scientific scrutiny works. I wrote a guide.
538
539			Scientific scrutiny works like this:
540			Scientist A publishes results.
541
542			Scientist B: A, I tried duplicating your experiment, but parameters x, y,
543			and z that I need were not in your article. I need you to disclose to me
544			x, y, and z that you used at the time. What are they?
545
546			A: x, y, and z are such and such.
547			B: Using x, y, and z, my result doesn't agree with yours at all. Are you
548			sure you did the procedures that you claimed?
549			A: ...
550			B: You fraud!
551
552			Scientific scrutiny does not work like this:
553
554			A publishes results.
555
556			B: I have Generic Skepticism toward your article. Under code viii of the
557			Publication Criteria, I demand that you give me all of your data!
558			A: ... ok...? It seems that everything you would need is already in the
559			article. Did you have something specific in mind?
560			B: A has refused to attach all data he has ever used for the
561			experiment. He is withholding information and thus hiding something.
562
563			-- Carafe 01:42, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
564			[http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservapedia:Lenski_affair_talk_1]
565			%
566			[regarding sites requesting visitors to allow advertisements and not block
567			them because they need the money to operate]
568
569			"The readers are not the customer. The customer is the advertiser, and the
570			readers are the product which that website promises to deliver. But the
571			readers, being the product and not the customer, have no obligation to the
572			site or its bottom line."
573			%
574			"..but a short time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of
575			the Jewish religion before his principles were departed from by those
576			who professed to be his special servants, & perverted into an engine for
577			enslaving mankind, and aggrandizing their oppressors in church & state:
578			that the purest system of morals ever before preached to man has been
579			adulterated & sophisticated, by artificial constructions, into a mere
580			contrivance to filch wealth & power to themselves, that rational men not
581			being able to swallow their impious heresies, in order to force them down
582			their throats, they raise the hue & cry of infidelity, while themselves
583			are the greatest obstacles to the advancement of the real doctrines of
584			Jesus, and do in fact constitute the real Anti-Christ."
585			– Thomas Jefferson to William Baldwin, 19 January 1810 (draft – never sent)
586			%
587			Ignorance is the state of not having the data.
588
589			Idiocy is the state of having the data, but not being able to process it.
590
591			Willful ignorance is the state of censoring out all data you don’t want to hear.
592			%
593			["only those parts in the bible I like are authentic"]
594
595			>>>> but doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support slavery, genocide,
596			>>>> and the beating of children?
597			>>>
598			>>> Subjugation of women...
599			>>
600			>> "doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support ..." Only for bible
601			>> literalists and those who ignore what Jesus himself taught. By all
602			>> means call out any religious person who is acting immorally but try to
603			>> understand that the rest of us who are trying to follow the Way as best
604			>> as we can don't usually have the clout to wrestle the Falwells and the
605			>> Robertsons and their ilk to the ground. If we can agree on that, then,
606			>> shake partner.
607			>
608			> Ever read Matthew 5:31-32? Jesus said it and taught it.
609			>
610			> He says my wife is an adultress since she divorced her 1st husband all
611			> on account of her not taking his punches and kicks with good-natured
612			> humor. That "pearl of wisdom" also says that I'm an adulterer for
613			> choosing to spend the rest of my life with her.
614			>
615
616			As written, it seems pretty clear. Until you remember the book of matthew
617			was written decades after Jesus's death based on memories and oral
618			traditions, not to mention translation inaccuracies and ulterior motives
619			of the writers. No one really knows what Jesus really said or what he
620			really meant. It could all be wildly inacurrate. I think the fault is in
621			those who would use those words to justify their shabby treatment of you
622			and your wife.
623			%
624			Atheists care about religion for the same reason other people care about
625			cancer. If you aren't careful, it will kill you, and if you are, it could
626			still kill you. - arestheblue
627			%
628			Once upon a time there was the CAT working group whose name was an
629			abbreviation for "Common Authentication Technology". It produced IETF
630			specifications for GSS-API.
631
632			It was succeeded by the kitten working group, which has been working on
633			the next-generation GSS-API specifications.
634
635			There is now a proposal for a MOGGIES working group, which will work on
636			Mechanisms Of Generating Generically Interoperable & Effective Security.
637
638			[http://fanf.livejournal.com/?style=mine]
639			%
640			[from the minix 3 users guide]
641
642			ELLE is a simple and clear text editor (once you've figured out the key commands).
643			%
644			[Tips how to deal with complaints when running TOR exit nodes]
645
646			During the conversation make sure you explain a few points:
647			[...]
648			You are not insane. You may be insane, but we don't want the
649			complaintant to guess this is true.
650			%
651			"One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code."
652			- Ken Thompson.
653			%
654			http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-01-16-50-Math-Project-released.html
655
656			"Scientific calculations are becoming a reality in Syllable"
657
658			Dunning-Kruger at its best - the tool that "carries Syllable to
659			universities" can calculate sine and cosine values of integer inputs...
660			source code excerpt:
661
662			int sn()
663			{
664			char pwr;
665
666			int input1 = 0;
667			double output1 = 0;
668
669			system("clear");
670			cout<<"This is the Sin() calculator, please enter a number"<<endl;
671			cin>>input1;
672			output1 = (sin(input1));
673			cout<<"Sin() of"<< input1<<" is: "<<output1<<endl;
674			cout<<"Please press 'a' for recalculate or 'm' to return to main menu"<<endl;
675			cin>>pwr;
676			if(pwr == 'a')
677			sq();
678			if(pwr == 'm')
679			system("pause");
680
681			}
682			%
683			It allows a web browser and a web server to have a persistent, two-way
684			full-duplex connection using just one TCP connection.
685
686			[mind-boggling, they provide TCP features with just TCP!!!11]
687
688			http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-02-22-16-WebSockets-for-Cheyenne-web-server.html
689			%
690			From the "my window manager is boiling bullshit, so you have to fix your
691			app for me" department:
692
693			From: Evan LeCompte
694
695			Myself and many other members of the Archlinux community (and anyone using
696			Linux with a tiling window manager for that matter) humbly beg you (the
697			developers) for a single-windowed version of GIMP.
698			%
699			"I will give you credit for having balls. In spite of your comments being
700			a PR ploy based on biased views, you consistently imply that we're just
701			indulging in a PR ploy based on biased views."
702
703			http://tamino.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/old-news/
704			%
705			"We do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone ...
706			Folks who want porn can buy an Android phone"
707			– Steve Jobs[47]
708
709			"We can’t adapt European magazines to the standards of Utah."
710			– Mathias Müller von Blumencron (editor of Der Spiegel, warning that
711			the news magazine would not alter its content for the App Store)
712			%
713			The naked truth of it is, I have no shirt.
714			-- William Shakespeare, "Love's Labour's Lost"
715			%
716			Subject: [Gimp-user] Completely off every imaginable topic;)
717			From: Patrick Horgan
718			Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:13:38 -0800
719			To: GIMP Users <gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU>
720
721			Have you ever noticed that people's progress in using, supporting,
722			writing bug reports for, and sometimes even developing for, writing
723			documentation for, or translating for open source software is paralleled
724			by their progress from top-posting to bottom posting to interlinear
725			posting, to intelligent elision with interlinear posting? I see it on
726			the gimp, and on other lists all the time.
727
728			[...]
729			%
730	root	1.431	"Logic has made me hated among men"
731			— Peter Abelard
732			%
733			A man said to the universe:
734			"Sir I exist!"
735			"However," replied the universe,
736			"The fact has not created in me
737	root	1.432	A sense of obligation."
738			- Steven Crane
739	root	1.431	%
740			He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool; avoid him.
741
742			He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a student; teach him.
743
744			He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep; wake him.
745
746			He who knows and knows that he knows is a wise man; follow him.
747
748			– Sanskrit Saying
749			%
750			[anonymised discussion]
751			AGW-Denialist: ... blabla ... Karl Hopper ... blabla ... falsification ...
752			Scientist: Karl Hopper, eh? You're like the energizer bunny of wrong.
753			%
754			[http://www.opengl.org/registry/specs/NV/render_texture_rectangle.txt]
755
756	root	1.432	Additions to the WGL Specification
757	root	1.431
758			First, close your eyes and pretend that a WGL specification actually
759			existed. Maybe if we all concentrate hard enough, one will magically
760			appear.
761			%
762			"All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust,
763			sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others."
764			- Douglas Adams
765			%
766			I like how whether a German is a "skinhead" or a "pussy", he's still considered a typical German.
767			[http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=21884]
768			%
769			“A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will
770			lose both, and deserve neither” -- Thomas Jefferson
771			%
772			"This is a further proof of the skill of astronomers
773			in fitting a straight line to a circle!"
774			- footnote in "OUR BEST FRIEND, THE COMA CLUSTER"
775			http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Biviano/Biviano_contents.html
776			%
777			Am Grunde eines Problems sitzt immer ein Deutscher (Voltaire)
778			%
779			"I'm Prime Minister of Canada, I live here and I'm going to take a leak."
780			- Lester Pearson in 1967, during a meeting between himself and
781			President Lyndon Johnson, whose Secret Service detail had taken over
782			Pearson's cottage retreat. At one point, a Johnson guard asked
783			Pearson, "Who are you and where are you going?"
784			%
785			It's a known fact that not a single competent, experienced, skilled
786			programmer in the world uses an IDE, nor has used one at any point in his
787			or her career.
788			[http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl/?node_id=636318]
789			%
790			It was stated that WIMPs and MACHOs were in the category of particle known
791			as "Fabricated Ad hoc Inventions Repeatedly Invoked in Efforts to Defend
792			Untenable Scientific Theories" (FAIRIE DUST).
793			%
794			I LOVE YOU
795			["authentication succeeded" protocol token used by cvs pserver]
796			%
797			General consensus seems to be 2.6.18 is where the manure intersected with
798			the air impeller.
799
800			Alan Cox
801			%
802			"I'm being elitist: awesome 3 is designed for power users
803			with a minimum computer science background."
804			%
805			From: Eric Sosman
806			Newsgroups: comp.std.c
807			Subject: Re: about graphics
808
809			prince wrote:
810			> how to get command over graphics in c language?
811
812			#include <stdio.h>
813			int main(void) {
814			puts("graphics\rcommand");
815			return 0;
816			}
817			%
818			I tried the Vista speech recognition by running the tutorial. I was
819			amazed, it was awesome, recognised every word I said. Then I said the
820			wrong word ... and it typed the right one. It was actually just
821			detecting a sound and printing the expected word! -- pbhj on /.
822			%
823			[Bodo Moeller in http://groups.google.com/group/sci.crypt/msg/e79e65ed9077d0ba]
824
825			While the 2^128 step search talks a very long time indeed,
826			it still is a constant-time attack.
827			%
828			"Verleumdung mußt Du frech betreiben, es wird schon etwas hängenbleiben!"
829			-- Karl Joseph Simrock
830			%
831			From: David Damerell
832
833			Quoting Epic Campaigns <NoS...@NoSpamMe.com>:
834			>Because C# is case sensitive, you can use the same name with different
835			>caps to make it different.
836
837			Alternatively you could set your nose hair on fire, which will also be
838			painful but will take less typing.
839			%
840			Well, I think comparing Common Lisp to Scheme is prima facie evidence
841			of ill will, even if Common Lisp wins. It is somewhat like a supposed
842			compliment like "man, you are even smarter than George W. Bush".
843
844			Erik Naggum in 3231422371368070@naggum.net
845			%
846			From: Hans-Jürgen Koch
847
848			> The GPL places additional restrictions on code. It is therefore less
849			> free than the BSD.
850			>
851			> Free code + restrictions = non-free code.
852
853			The legal restriction that people must not enter your house uninvited
854			by smashing the door adds to your freedom, don't you think so?
855			%
856			[C++ doesn't have the monopoly on hard-to-read diagnostics]
857
858			State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘(void ()(struct CoroSLF , struct CV *,
859			struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
860			from incompatible pointer type
861			State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 3 of ‘(void ()(struct CoroSLF , struct CV *,
862			struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
863			makes pointer from integer without a cast
864			State.xs:1927: error: too few arguments to function ‘(void ()(struct CoroSLF ,
865			struct CV , struct SV *, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
866			%
867			The idea that governments have rights is absurd. People have rights. The
868			people have delegated certain tasks to government for their own
869			convenience, and have accepted limits on some minimal subset of their
870			rights so that society can best protect the rest. Note that "society" is
871			not the same as "the government"; the government is just a mechanism used
872			by society to accomplish certain specific things.
873
874			[Chandon Seldon]
875			%
876			[Wikipedia]
877			Differences between vi and Emacs
878
879			The neutrality of this article is disputed.
880			%
881			[lost the reference]
882			Remember that openssl is generally the upper
883			bound on how difficult a library can be to use.
884			%
885			"Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it's pointless
886			to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and
887			elitist. No novices asking stupid questions."
888			%
889			[aol 4tw, messages are edited for readability]
890
891			Subject: Re: fcrack help
892			From: puezalb024@aol.com
893			Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:27:46 -0500
894			To: schmorp@schmorp.de
895			X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
896
897			well how about making the manual more accessable u fukin cumtwat. take
898			ur shitty software n shove it homo. this program sux anyway. i wouldnt
899			have to read a manual if you actually knew how to create a good piece of a
900			working program you stupid fuck. n let me tell you thats a good way to get
901			your name out there or your software, just tel the customer their wrong,
902			yeah, thatll work. may you rot in piss, if your head was on fire i would
903			piss on your leg.
904
905			?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
906			maybe you should go to school and learn how to spell cuz who the fuck
907			spells marK with a c? musta been a baby of a couple retards
908
909			[then, a day later]
910
911			Subject: Re: fcrack help
912			From: puezalb024@aol.com
913			Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:02:20 -0500
914			To: schmorp@schmorp.de
915			X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
916
917			just kno that your an idiot. dont be mad at me cuz your mommy n daddy cant
918			aford to buy you aol, its not my problem. like anyone is going to read
919			your stupid post anyway.. noone likes your program, how about you read the
920			previous posts n then we'll see. so you just keep sitting in your basement
921			all by your lonesome?wasting your time making useless software buddy, cuz
922			quiet frankly i could give 2 shits. oh yeah if you plan on posting my
923			response make sure you dont edit nothing and include ALL of my response u
924			fucking nerd. why dont you put it on ur myspace as well, print up a couple
925			copies n post em on your walls too buddy
926
927
928			-----Original Message-----
929			From: Marc Lehmann <schmorp@schmorp.de>
930			To: puezalb024@aol.com
931			Sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 2:17 am
932			Subject: Re: fcrack help
933
934
935
936			On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 07:27:46PM -0500, puezalb024@aol.com wrote:
937	root	1.432	>
938	root	1.431	> ?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
939
940			I was suspecting that aol users have, uhm, issues, but that's just hilarious :->
941
942			Note that I will publish your response so other people can share the fun,
943			I hope you don't object :)
944			%
945			>Dummerweise steht es auch in der Welt der Wunder Zeitschrift und die ist
946			>dafür bekannt Fakten zu liefern.
947
948			You made my day
949			%
950			[http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0810.1/2945.html]
951
952			Names are important. In fact, naming is often _more_ important than the
953			implementation is. And that means that the implementation should follow
954			the naming, or the implementation is wrong.
955
956			Linus
957			%
958			The ultimate hipocrisy is when people send you mails like this:
959
960			From: Christian Walde <mithaldu@yahoo.de>
961
962			I'll be utterly blunt now and ask this in advance: Are you being an asshole on purpose? If so, please just stop reading now and ignore a person trying t ...
963
964			[lots of kilobyte-sized single-line paragraphs omitted]
965
966			As too many people send me top- and fully-quoted
967			emails, here is a guide on how to be considerate
968			when sending emails to other people:
969			http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
970
971			[which states to not use more than, say, 72 columns per line]
972
973			[mail quoted with permission btw.]
974			%
975			* k-god tries to think of the one mutt enhancement he'd like...
976			<k-god> OK. Two. One: A backscratcher.
977			<brendan> I believe muttng has one of those
978			<k-god> Two: An implementation of the Internet Face Stab Protocol for MS Outlook lusers.
979			<brendan> and I think outlook does that on its own :)
980			%
981			I had some issues though, functions like tmpfile() could only
982			be used if run as administrator in windows.
983
984			Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <n.mavrogiannopoulos@gmail.com>
985			%
986			[on italy]
987
988			#24. fallingstones - 08-10 03:51
989
990			@youruncledarnell: First, sorry for my very bad English. Yes, the
991			majority of Italians are totally idiot, otherwise the Prime Minister
992			wouldn't be Silvio Berlusconi, and of course also the justice is not
993			only politicized, but also spectacularized.
994
995			Not only. We've the only nation in all EU having a State-controlled
996			corporation on copyright (SIAE). This corporation have also hated
997			by a lot of artists, Italian and foreigner, 'cause the division of
998			funds is "strange". If some of you can understand a lot of Italian, I
999			suggest viewing an old service on Italian TV program "Report" talking
1000			on SIAE. You can read and viewing it on this url (sorry for long url)
1001
1002			http://www.report.rai.it/R2_popup_articolofoglia/0,7246,243%255E90082,00.html
1003
1004			Our legislation on copyright is basically on a law of 1943, approved
1005			during WWII by fascism and signed by the king. We're a Republic since
1006			1948 and our Costitution dislike fascism, but we've conserved all laws
1007			from fascism period.
1008
1009			We don't admit officially other copyright licenses, like GPL or CC,
1010			cause "legally" every creation would be registered in SIAE, giving to
1011			them all rights (also rights of persecuting uses not authorized). An
1012			author of a song can't authorize itself a pianist for playing his
1013			song. If the song is registered in SIAE (and if isn't, isn't legally
1014			created, and the author isn't recognized) the pianist MUST pay the
1015			royalties, that eventually will be refunded to him by the author (if
1016			they are accorded) when, after a lot of MONTHS, he receive it from
1017			SIAE.
1018
1019			We've also some laws against Freedom of Speech, for example our penal
1020			code include apology law, that pratically means you can't say why
1021			you consider wrong a penal law. People can ask (with a lot of signs)
1022			elections for deleting a law, but not for a penal law, or better can't
1023			explain why that law it's wrong and would be deleted. If you can't
1024			explain, you'll obviously will not found never other people signing
1025			your petition (and you need at least 500, and with a REAL signs, not
1026			electronic ones
1027
1028			#25. fallingstones - 08-10 03:52
1029
1030			Then, only parties have sufficient funds for these things, and we
1031			don't have a party sufficiently interested in freedom of speech
1032			(on internet and not). 'Cause limiting Freedom of Speech included
1033			CONTROL. We've the last western country in Freedom of Speech (at least
1034			based on Freedomhouse annual statistic), the only "Partly Free" in
1035			western country.
1036
1037			I'm so sorry for being Italian, for our very stupid justice, for our
1038			very bad country laws and on all for our very stupid prime minister,
1039			but trust me, I can assure you we don't be ALL so stupid. In last
1040			elections, with an absurd law on elections, other parties have been
1041			deleted from parliament. Now we've only two main coalitions, the
1042			Berlusconi's one and the Veltroni's one. All of them have approved
1043			laws against freedom on internet, and generally against technology
1044			innovations. For these reason, all the last governments are fascists,
1045			also the governments of "center-left".
1046
1047			Again, sorry you and all for my bad English. I hope you can understand.
1048
1049			If I can, I suggest Brokep creating a guide for using TOR, a little
1050			great program (and it's free) for surfing the net anonymously and
1051			without any restriction.
1052
1053			Brokep and all TPB staff, go forward forever. You're my personal myth,
1054			and the hope that good people using brain like you exists into the
1055			world.
1056
1057			Long life to the Bay, forever.
1058			Sorry for the long message and sorry if I'm using TOR, I hope you understand.
1059			Thank you for reading.
1060			%
1061			> > don't even attempt to compare the nvidia driver support to ati's craptacular drivers.
1062			>
1063			> don't even attempt to post a useful comment
1064
1065			How very ironic.
1066			%
1067			With or without religion, we would have good people doing good things and
1068			evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that
1069			takes religion."
1070
1071			--Steve Weinberg
1072			%
1073			http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/en/why-not-use_java.xhtml
1074			%
1075			[Kurt Roecks on his change that had totally broken openssl for two years in debian]
1076			[Folks, fix valgrind bugs in your code, not in other people's code,]
1077			[if you don't understand how valgrind works]
1078
1079			"I've ran all the regression test thru valgrind, using the memset()
1080			solves most of those. As far as I know, commenting out those 2 calls
1081			solved all the warnings valgrind reported."
1082			%
1083			[From: "H.Merijn Brand"]
1084			The more I (have to) work with java, the more I am convinced perl is
1085			the right tool for me.
1086			%
1087			[deliantra]
1088			02:58:42 [Kyle] my summoned pets ate my rod of show invisible
1089			%
1090			I pretend to work because the Soviet government pretends to pay me.
1091			%
1092			cerebro ~# fuser -km /wd_old
1093			/wd_old: 5270c 12266c 12274c 12275
1094			Suddenly the Dungeon collapses!! - You die...
1095			%
1096			From the CFA633 datasheet:
1097
1098			* Do not eat the LCD panel.
1099			%
1100			>> Well, in German there is no "sports" but just "Sport".
1101			>> So by that little S at the end of sports, you could tell it's English.
1102
1103			It's the same in English as it is in German; the little S at the end
1104			actually tells you it's American.
1105			%
1106			[better do not hire this programmer]
1107			From: Tony Jackson <tj76351@gmail.com>
1108			Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
1109			Subject: Avoiding dereference of NULL pointer
1110
1111			Hi
1112
1113			I'm quite new to C programming - I have more of a Java background: maybe
1114			someone here can advise me.
1115
1116			I'm nearly finishing a little program but it has some hard-to-find bugs
1117			that basically lead to a couple pointers sometimes being NULL at the
1118			wrong time. As it stands the program just bombs out when it tries to
1119			dereference the NULL, which obviously isn't good (especially when it
1120			happens with the customer looking on!!).
1121
1122			I don't think there's any serious problem to worry about, and what I'd
1123			like to do is be able to ignore the dereference attempt and just carry
1124			on - probably the next time round the loop the pointer will be OK. In
1125			Java, I'd put a try block around the main loop, and if we catch an
1126			exception then just jump back to the start of the main loop. What's the
1127			corresponding thing in C?
1128
1129			Thanks!
1130			%
1131			[from mozilla 1.7b sources]
1132
1133			// See bug 53763.
1134			nsCOMPtr<nsIViewManager> kungFuDeathGrip;
1135			nsIPresShell *shell = doc->GetShellAt(0);
1136			if (shell) {
1137			kungFuDeathGrip = shell->GetViewManager();
1138			%
1139			[the beginning, and most common codepath, of getpid() on my linux 2.6
1140			amd64 box in a program using glibc 2.3's pthreads. thats fucking cool]
1141
1142			0x000000300049af30 <getpid+0>: mov %fs:0x94,%edx
1143			0x000000300049af38 <getpid+8>: cmp $0x0,%edx
1144			0x000000300049af3b <getpid+11>: mov %edx,%eax
1145			0x000000300049af3d <getpid+13>: jle 0x300049af41 <getpid+17>
1146			0x000000300049af3f <getpid+15>: repz retq
1147			%
1148			(A lot of this OPM stuff seems to come straight from the twilight
1149			zone. It's normal to have error codes indicating that there was a disk
1150			error or that a network packet got garbled, but I'm sure Windows Vista
1151			must be the first OS in history to have error codes for things like
1152			“display quality too high”).
1153
1154			[http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html]
1155			%
1156			Subject: Re: The right answer of -1^2 is?
1157
1158	root	1.432	> I don't think there's a real Right Way here other than reintroducing a
1159	root	1.431	> mechanism for explicitly signaling the grouping. Maybe parentheses? ;)
1160
1161			Nah. Use whitespace, like Fortress. Then you can distinguish between
1162
1163			x / y * z
1164
1165			and
1166
1167			x / y * z
1168
1169			That'll never cause problems, right? :)
1170
1171			(To be fair, I like Fortress. However, it did have some, er, unique
1172			design decisions.)
1173			%
1174			endergt:
1175			> snoofle:
1176			> > Every system (*nix, PC's, etc.) has a hex
1177			> > editor with a string-search capability - really not that hard if
1178			> > you understand what you are doing...
1179			>
1180	root	1.432	> Out of curiosity - what is the hex editor on a default Windows installation?
1181	root	1.431
1182	root	1.432	debug
1183	root	1.431	%
1184			C# is for people who want to have one arm strapped behind their back because it reduces the probability of making a mistake by 50%.
1185
1186			Java is for people who prefer to have the arm chopped off.
1187			%
1188			Steve Loughran: "The EU interop laws often come up in discussion, and they
1189			are interesting. They say that you are allowed to do reverse engineering
1190			for hardware interop. Not software: hardware."
1191
1192			Not sure what you're talking about, but Council Directive 91/250/EEC seems
1193			pretty clear to me (or as clear as legal texts can be to me...): "Article
1194			6 Decompilation
1195
1196			1. The authorization of the rightholder shall not be required where
1197			reproduction of the code and translation of its form within the meaning
1198			of Article 4 (a) and (b) are indispensable to obtain the information
1199			necessary to achieve the interoperability of an independently created
1200			computer program with other programs, provided that the following
1201			conditions are met: [...]"
1202			%
1203			http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/
1204			%
1205			Why Linux Sux ?
1206
1207			Easy .
1208			Security : most hackable operating systems are unix based .
1209			Portability : try installing unix on cutting edge hardware . bad luck it won`t work . install windows (the oldest) on any ... it will .
1210			Help : try get help for linux . after exploring tons of sites and forums the help you got is useless . for windows you just call them .
1211			Applications : we all know there are more and more on windows . linux will probably never get so many .
1212			GUI : we know how customisable is the windows gui . and how stable .
1213			Gaming : ...anyone got an ideea of a linux game that is really cool ?
1214			Cost : install linux as server ... it is free no ? but you have to pay a sysadmin . or learn a lot . buy a lot of books . using windows ... just click next . if you are not dumb you might make it secure too (reading help does HELP! ) .
1215			Virus : due to the fact that windows is so flexible it is logcal to have viruses . afterall the human body has more than a monkeys one .
1216			Stability : reboot windows 100 times by using the case button . perhaps a scandisk will appear . reboot linux ... ups kernel panic .
1217
1218			You don`t have money for OS ? Work ! Oh you hate miscrosoft and bill gates
1219			no ? Sure thing ... stupid and lazy people generally hate smart and hard
1220			working ones . Screw linux users .
1221			%
1222			19:26:03 <schmorp> did you know the us is officially metric? for over 100 years, too?
1223			19:26:27 -cfbot:#cf- [moerderer] it is also officially a democracy, go figure
1224			19:26:34 <schmorp> good point :)
1225			%
1226			> The Dell 30"...
1227
1228			It is big, but some of the reviews have not been so glowing, or rather,
1229			the glowing has been highly asymmetric.
1230			%
1231	root	1.432	Re: USA- an underdeveloped country with potentials
1232	root	1.431
1233			> > u don´t use your wealth with responsibility, you only think about yourself and shrug your shoulders with comments like, "we all have the same chance", I´m a selfmade man", "everyone has to take care of themselves".
1234	root	1.432	>
1235	root	1.431	> yeah, that's why your little brothers decided to save the world - including your grandparents' sorry asses - from hitler, because we think only of ourselves!
1236	root	1.432	>
1237	root	1.431	> your welcome, pinhead!
1238	root	1.432
1239	root	1.431	Even though I´m tired of hearing "we saved your a beep during ww2 I will respond.
1240
1241			1. Did you? Or did your great grandfathers? Maybe they were better?
1242			2. You came into the war very late, and that was strictly for buisness reasons. You need countries to trade with. The true hero in WW2 was actually Russia doing alot more then US ever did, not saying that I support Russia today.
1243			3. One good thing in the past doesn´t make up for bad things in your society today.
1244	root	1.432	4. With those retorics you will never learn anything from your own mistakes since you always can go back and talk about your effort 100 years ago.
1245	root	1.431	%
1246			[discussion about some changes in windows longhorn]
1247			Let's hope that some day Microsoft will catch up to what the
1248			public-domain tz code was doing back in 1986. (Good work, Arthur!)
1249			%
1250			ntfs ist dennoch für datei und ordnersicherheit zuständig.
1251
1252			Zum Beispiel unter Linux wenn man auf fat32 festplatten zugreifen will ist
1253			es kein problem, wenn man aber die festplatte auf ntfs convertiert hat,
1254			dann funktioniert dass nicht mehr der zugriff auf die festplatte.
1255
1256			Denn das ist die sicherheit vor zugriffen auf daten von anderen usern und
1257			anderen betriebssystemen.
1258
1259			Habe fat32 festplatte gehabt(zugriff von linux möglich) dann habe ich es
1260			auf ntfs umconvertiert und dann ging es nicht mehr.
1261
1262			habe nochmal in meinen unterlagen nachgeschlagen, haben erst ca. vor 3
1263			Wochen die Unterlagen vom Lehrer bekommen und ich sag nochmal, zittiere
1264			Lehrer: Fat32 sollte man heutzutage nicht mehr verwenden außer man hat
1265			Windows 98 und man möchte Dualbootkonfiguration erzielen. NTFS ist
1266			einfach für bessere Sicherheit zuständig.
1267
1268			Frage?
1269			Hast du Windows und Linux beides auf deinem Laptop oder Standpc?
1270			Wenn ja hattest du vorher eine fat32 festplatte?
1271			Hast du sie dann auf ntfs umconvertiert?
1272
1273			Freundlichen Grüße von Vista-Ultimate-Besitzer
1274			%
1275			"In this time of war against Osama bin Laden and the oppressive
1276			Taliban regime, we are thankful that OUR leader isn't the spoiled son
1277			of a powerful politician from a wealthy oil family who is supported by
1278			religious fundamentalists, operates through clandestine organizations,
1279			has no respect for the democratic electoral process, bombs innocents,
1280			and uses war to deny people their civil liberties." --The Boondocks
1281			%
1282			19:35:41 <elmex> dieses 'restore session' is soo sinnlos bei firefox
1283			19:35:54 <elmex> wenn die webseite die ihn gecrasht hat immer weieder crasht
1284			19:36:18 <schmorp> tja, bei mir restored er trotz einstellung nie etwas
1285			19:36:24 <schmorp> fragt sich wer mehr glück hat
1286			%
1287			What has happened is that Dave Winer got off a rant against JSON as
1288			reinventing XML's (and more specifically XML-RPC's) wheel:
1289
1290			God bless the re-inventers
1291
1292			Gotta love em, because there's no way they're going to stop breaking
1293			what works, and fixing what don't need no fixing
1294
1295	root	1.432	Crockford gets off a very pithy response:
1296	root	1.431
1297			The good thing about reinventing the wheel is that you can get a round
1298			one.
1299			%
1300			[rfc2665]
1301			The dot3StatsEtherChipSet object has now been deprecated.
1302			Implementation feedback indicates that this object is much more
1303			useful in theory than in practice.
1304			%
1305			15:40:51 <elmex> son buero is faszinierend
1306	root	1.432	15:41:08 <elmex> staendig hoerste leute seuftzen und jammern, und in 90% der faelle hats
1307	root	1.431	mit windows zu tun
1308			15:41:15 <elmex> oder mit software die dort laeuft
1309			15:41:37 <elmex> irgendwem is heut mrogen die mail inbox verloren gegangen
1310			15:41:47 <elmex> und hat sie dann wiedergefunden
1311			15:41:49 <elmex> irgendwie
1312			15:41:50 <elmex> irgendwo
1313	root	1.432	15:42:07 <elmex> achja, und backups gabs auch keine mehr, seit sich die passwoerter
1314	root	1.431	geaendert haben :->
1315			15:42:19 <elmex> (also seit wenigen tagen)
1316	root	1.432	15:47:10 <elmex> es ist auch erstaunlich wie wenig arbeit eigentlich so erledigt wird nach
1317	root	1.431	15:30
1318			15:47:48 <elmex> (mit ausnahmen)
1319			15:48:13 <elmex> aber 50-80% der zeit wird mit kommunikation verbracht
1320			%
1321			[http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=895394]
1322			The SparcStation2 technical docs recommend catting your /vmunix file to /dev/audio as a speaker test.
1323			If you go nearly deaf from the painful noise, then your speaker works.
1324			%
1325			http://www.azillionmonkeys.com/qed/optimize.html
1326
1327			Strictly for beginners
1328
1329			Techniques you might not be aware of if you have not been programming for the past 15 years of your life:
1330			[...]
1331			%
1332			http://tmbo.org/offensive/images/picpile/Welcome%20to%20paradise%21.jpg
1333			%
1334			17:34:47 <elmex> hab gehoert solaris soll GPL werden, oder zumindest denkt sun drueber nach :->:
1335			17:34:53 <schmorp> ja klar
1336			17:34:57 <schmorp> alles was lebenszeitende hat
1337			17:34:58 <schmorp> wird gpl
1338			17:35:02 <schmorp> weil sie denken, dann wirds übelreben
1339			17:35:05 <schmorp> bei mozilla hats auch gwekappt
1340			17:35:08 <elmex> hehe
1341			17:35:13 <schmorp> und die brrowserentwicklung unter linux locker ein jahr verzögert
1342			17:35:46 <elmex> dann kann joerd schilling ja endlich sein lieblings system entwickeln :-
1343			17:35:48 <elmex> :->
1344			17:35:58 <schmorp> macht er doch schon die ganze zeit
1345			17:36:02 <schmorp> chillingos, bzw.
1346			17:36:18 <elmex> uh
1347			17:36:53 <schmorp> ich finds nicht mehr
1348			17:36:57 <schmorp> er arbeitet jedenfalls dran
1349			17:38:27 <schmorp> SchilliX
1350			17:38:29 <schmorp> genau!
1351			17:38:30 <schmorp> :)
1352			17:38:33 <elmex> sueees
1353			17:38:34 <schmorp> http://developer.berlios.de/projects/schillix/
1354			17:39:59 <zaphod> omg das ist nicht wahr
1355			17:40:20 <schmorp> ihr kennt die geheimnisse und wunder unserer welt nicht
1356			17:40:32 <zaphod> das kann bestimmt CDs brennen wie nix anderes
1357			17:40:42 <elmex> lol
1358			17:41:06 <schmorp> :)
1359			%
1360			[A Gentoo User]
1361			First FreeBSD is UNIX. Yes FreeBSD runs beter then all other Linux
1362			distro’s but FreeBSD lacks any graphical features(stolen linux features
1363			doesn’t count) so it is only ment for guys with an old grey beards.
1364			[...] That’s why for geeks/nerds/professionals (like me) bsd exists [...]
1365			Gentoo is ment for professionals that need a system for a really exact
1366			environment and think LFS is to much work.
1367			[http://www.playingwithwire.com/2007/01/why-gentoo-shouldnt-be-on-your-server/]
1368			%
1369			20:08 <schmorp> my guess is, purely practically
1370			20:08 <schmorp> if copyright/patent law continues to go away from the original reasons
1371			20:08 <schmorp> that they were created for
1372			20:08 <schmorp> you will at one point have a civil war
1373			20:08 <schmorp> right now, you already have large-scale civil disobedience
1374	root	1.432	20:10 <scortch> i very much hope that it can be turned around before that happens. not the
1375			least reason is, in a Blade Runner dystopia, there isnt a lot that individuals
1376	root	1.431	can do
1377			20:11 <scortch> i.e. militarily
1378			20:11 <scortch> ah wait.
1379			20:12 <scortch> we are forgetting that low technology solutions are always around
1380			20:12 <schmorp> terrorism :)
1381			20:12 <schmorp> now i finally see the whole plot
1382			20:13 <scortch> that's quite a story
1383			%
1384			23:49 <ruskie> in my experience apart from a few exceptions all gentoo people are rude
1385	root	1.432	23:58 <Err> it seems logical that there is a strong correlation
1386			between (people who like to waste their time, and their computer's
1387			processing time, rebuilding things that have been built a million
1388	root	1.431	times before) and (idiots)
1389			23:58 <Err> (parenthesized for easy parsing ;-) )
1390	root	1.432	23:59 <Err> there are certainly exceptions to every rule - but in
1391			general, gentoo users think that they're getting magical properties
1392	root	1.431	out of rebuilding the same code everybody else builds
1393			%
1394			[http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/]
1395			Bruce Schneier decrypted the Bible. The plaintext read, "Bruce Schneier".
1396			%
1397			[http://www.mail-archive.com/cygwin-patches@cygwin.com/msg03644.html]
1398
1399			Internet Explorer: KB329781 "HTTP File Upload Operation Takes a Long Time
1400			to Complete". The printing subsystem: KB816627 "TCP/IP port printing may
1401			be slow in Windows 2000"
1402
1403			In the first KB microsoft amusingly states in relation to the fact that
1404			upload speed is limited to 80kbps no matter what the network bandwidth
1405			that "this behaviour is by design". The mind boggles...
1406			%
1407			[so much for type-safety]
1408			List<Integer> lst = new ArrayList<Integer>;
1409			lst.add(null);
1410			int x = 1 + lst.get(0);
1411			%
1412			[just for reference]
1413			Wenn man weiss, dass man in seinem Leben nicht mehr Glücklich werden
1414			kann, und sich von Tag zu Tag die Gründe dafür häufen, dann bleibt
1415			einem nichts anderes übrig als aus diesem Leben zu verschwinden. Und
1416			dafür habe ich mich entschieden. Es gibt vielleicht Leute die hätten
1417			weiter gemacht, hätten sich gedacht "das wird schon", aber das wird
1418			es nicht.
1419
1420			Man hat mir gesagt ich muss zur Schule gehen, um für mein leben zu
1421			lernen, um später ein schönes Leben führen zu können. Aber was bringt
1422			einem das dickste Auto, das grösste Haus, die schönste Frau, wenn es
1423			letztendlich sowieso für’n Arsch ist. Wenn deine Frau beginnt dich zu
1424			hassen, wenn dein Auto Benzin verbraucht das du nicht zahlen kannst, und
1425			wenn du niemanden hast der dich in deinem scheiss Haus besuchen kommt!
1426
1427			Das einzigste was ich intensiv in der Schule beigebracht bekommen habe
1428			war, das ich ein Verlierer bin. Für die ersten jahre an der GSS stimmt
1429			das sogar, ich war der Konsumgeilheit verfallen, habe danach gestrebt
1430			Freunde zu bekommen, Menschen die dich nicht als Person, sondern als
1431			Statussymbol sehen. Aber dann bin ich aufgewacht! Ich erkannte das die
1432			Welt wie sie mir erschien nicht existiert, das sie eine Illusion war,
1433			die hauptsächlich von den Medien erzeugt wurde. Ich merkte mehr und
1434			mehr in was für einer Welt ich mich befand. Eine Welt in der Geld alles
1435			regiert, selbst in der Schule ging es nur darum. Man musste das neuste
1436			Handy haben, die neusten Klamotten, und die richtigen "Freunde". hat
1437			man eines davon nicht ist man es nicht wert beachtet zu werden. Und diese
1438			Menschen nennt man Jocks. Jocks sind alle, die meinen aufgrund von teuren
1439			Klamotten oder schönen Mädchen an der Seite über anderen zu stehen. Ich
1440			verabscheue diese Menschen, nein, ich verabscheue Menschen.
1441
1442			Ich habe in den 18 Jahren meines Lebens erfahren müssen, das man nur
1443			Glücklich werden kann, wenn man sich der Masse fügt, der Gesellschaft
1444			anpasst. Aber das konnte und wollte ich nicht. Ich bin frei! Niemand darf
1445			in mein Leben eingreifen, und tut er es doch hat er die Konsequenzen zu
1446			tragen! Kein Politiker hat das Recht Gesetze zu erlassen, die mir Dinge
1447			verbieten, Kein Bulle hat das Recht mir meine Waffe wegzunehmen, schon gar
1448			nicht während er seine am Gürtel trägt.
1449
1450			Wozu das alles? Wozu soll ich arbeiten? Damit ich mich kaputtmaloche um
1451			mit 65 in den Ruhestand zugehen und 5 Jahre später abzukratzen? Warum
1452			soll ich mich noch anstrengen irgendetwas zu erreichen, wenn es
1453			letztendlich sowieso für'n Arsch ist weil ich früher oder später
1454			krepiere? Ich kann ein Haus bauen, Kinder bekommen und was weiss ich
1455			nicht alles. Aber wozu? Das Haus wird irgendwann abgerissen, und die
1456			Kinder sterben auch mal. Was hat denn das Leben bitte für einen
1457			Sinn? Keinen! Also muss man seinem Leben einen Sinn geben, und das
1458			mache ich nicht indem ich einem überbezahlten Chef im Arsch rumkrieche
1459			oder mich von Faschisten verarschen lasse die mir erzählen wollen wir
1460			leben in einer Volksherrschaft. Nein, es gibt für mich jetzt noch eine
1461			Möglichkeit meinem Leben einen Sinn zu geben, und die werde ich nicht wie
1462			alle anderen zuvor verschwenden! Vielleicht hätte mein Leben komplett
1463			anders verlaufen können. Aber die Gesellschaft hat nunmal keinen Platz
1464			für Individualisten. Ich meine richtige Individualisten, Leute die
1465			slebst denken, und nicht solche 'Ich trage ein Nietenarmband und bin
1466			alternativ' Idioten!
1467
1468			Ihr habt diese Schlacht begonnen, nicht ich. Meine Handlungen sind ein
1469			Resultat eurer Welt, eine Welt die mich nicht sein lassen will wie ich
1470			bin. Ihr habt euch über mich lustig gemacht, dasselbe habe ich nun mit
1471			euch getan, ich hatte nur einen ganz anderen Humor! Von 1994 bis 2003/2004
1472			war es auch mein Bestreben, Freunde zu haben, Spass zu haben. Als ich
1473			dann 1998 auf die GSS kam, fing es an mit den Statussymbolen, Kleidung,
1474			Freunde, Handy usw.. Dann bin ich wach geworden. Mir wurde bewusst das
1475			ich mein Leben lang der Dumme für andere war, und man sich über mich
1476			lustig machte. Und ich habe mir Rache geschworen! Diese Rache wird so
1477			brutal und rücksichtslos ausgeführt werden, dass euch das Blut in den
1478			Adern gefriert. Bevor ich gehe, werde ich euch einen Denkzettel verpassen,
1479			damit mich nie wieder ein Mensch vergisst! Ich will das ihr erkennt, das
1480			niemand das Recht hat unter einem faschistischen Deckmantel aus Gesetz und
1481			Religion in fremdes Leben einzugreifen!
1482
1483			Ich will das sich mein Gesicht in eure Köpfe einbrennt! Ich will
1484			nicht länger davon laufen! Ich will meinen Teil zur Revolution der
1485			Ausgestossenen beitragen!
1486
1487			Ich will R A C H E !
1488
1489			Ich habe darüber nachgedacht, dass die meisten der Schüler die mich
1490			gedemütigt haben schon von der GSS abgegangen sind. Dazu habe ich zwei
1491			Dinge zu sagen:
1492
1493			1. Ich ging nicht nur in eine klasse, nein, ich ging auf die ganze Schule.
1494
1495			Die Menschen die sich auf der Schule befinden, sind in keinem Falle
1496			unschuldig! Niemand ist das! In deren Köpfen läuft das selbe Programm
1497			welches auch bei den früheren Jahrgängen lief! Ich bin der Virus der
1498			diese Programme zerstören will, es ist völlig irrelewand wo ich da
1499			anfange.
1500
1501			2. Ein Grossteil meiner Rache wird sich auf das Lehrpersonal richten,
1502			denn das sind Menschen die gegen meinen Willen in mein Leben eingegriffen
1503			haben, und geholfen haben mich dahin zu stellen, wo ich jetzt stehe; Auf
1504			dem Schlachtfeld! Diese Lehrer befinden sich so gut wie alle noch auf
1505			dieser verdammten schule!
1506
1507			Das Leben wie es heute täglich stattfindet ist wohl das armseeligste was
1508			die Welt zu bieten hat!
1509
1510			S.A.A.R.T. - Schule, Ausbildung, Arbeit, Rente, Tod
1511
1512			Das ist der Lebenslauf eines "normalen" Menschen heutzutage. Aber
1513			was ist eigentlich normal? Als normal wird das bezeichnet, was von der
1514			Gesellschaft erwartet wird. Somit werden heutzutage Punks, Penner,
1515			Mörder, Gothics, Schwule usw. als unnormal bezeichnet, weil sie den
1516			allgemeinen Vorstellungen der Gesellschaft nicht gerecht werden, können
1517			oder wollen. Ich scheiss auf euch! Jeder hat frei zu sein! Gebt jedem
1518			eine Waffe und die Probleme unter den Menschen lösen sich ohne jedliche
1519			Einmischung Dritter. Wenn jemand stirbt, dann ist er halt tot. Und? Der
1520			Tod gehört zum Leben! Kommen die Angehörigen mit dem Verlust nicht klar,
1521			können sie Selbstmord begehen, niemand hindert sie daran!
1522
1523			S.A.A.R.T. beginnt mit dem 6. Lebensjahr hier in Deutschland, mit der
1524			Einschulung.
1525
1526			Das Kind begibt sich auf seine perönliche Sozialisationsstrecke, und
1527			wird in den darauffolgenden Jahren gezwungen sich der Allgemeinheit, der
1528			Mehrheit anzupassen. Lehnt es dies ab, schalten sich Lehrer, Eltern,
1529			und nicht zuletzt die Polizei ein. Schulpflicht ist die Schönrede von
1530			Schulzwang, denn man wird ja gezwungen zur Schule zu gehen. Wer gezwungen
1531			wird, verliert ein Stück seiner Freiheit. Man wird gezwungen Steuern zu
1532			zahlen, man wird gezwungen Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungen einzuhalten, man
1533			wird gezwungen dies zu tun, man wird gewzungen das zu tun. Ergo: Keine
1534			Freiheit! Und sowas nennt man dann Volksherrschaft. Wenn das Volk hier
1535			herrschen würde, hiesse es Anarchie!
1536
1537			WERDET ENDLICH WACH - GEHT AUF DIE STRASSE - DAS HAT IN DEUTSCHLAND
1538			SCHONMAL FUNKTIONIERT!
1539
1540			Nach meiner Tat werden wieder irgendwelche fetten Politiker dumme
1541			Sprüche klopfen wie "Wir halten nun alle zusammen" oder "Wir
1542			müssen gemeinsam versuchen dies durchzustehen". Doch das machen
1543			sie nur um Aufmerksmakeit zu bekommen, um sich selbst als die Lösung
1544			zu präsentieren. Auf der GSS war es genauso... niemals lässt
1545			sich dieses fette Stück Scheisse von Rektorin blicken, aber wenn
1546			Theater-aufführungen sind, dann steht sie als erste mit einem breiten
1547			Grinsen auf der Bühne und präsentiert sich der Masse!
1548
1549			Nazis, HipHoper, Türken, Staat, Staatsdiener, Gläubige... einfach alle
1550			sind zum kotzen und müssen vernichtet werden! (Den begriff "Türken"
1551			benutze ich für alle HipHopMuchels und Kleingangster; Sie kommen nach
1552			Deutschland weil die Bedingungen bei ihnen zu hause zu schlecht sind,
1553			weil Krieg ist... und dann kommen Sie nach Deutschland, dem Sozialamt der
1554			Welt, und lassne hier die Sau raus. Sie sollten alle vergast werden! Keine
1555			Juden, keine Neger, keine Holländer, aber Muchels! ICH BIN KEIN SCHEISS
1556			NAZI) Ich hasse euch und eure Art! Ihr müsst alle sterben!
1557
1558			Seit meinem 6. Lebensjahr wurde ich von euch allen verarscht! Nun müsst
1559			ihr dafür bezahlen!
1560
1561			Weil ich weiss das die Fascholizei meine Videos, Schulhefte, Tagebücher,
1562			einfach alles, nicht veröffentlichen will, habe ich das selbst in die
1563			Hand genommen.
1564
1565			Als letztes möchte ich den Menschen die mir was bedeuten, oder die jemals
1566			gut zu mir waren, danken, und mich für all dies Entschuldigen!
1567
1568			Ich bin weg...
1569			%
1570			01:14 <scortch> its an NP hard for computers
1571			01:14 <elmex> no, it's NP hard for anyone
1572			%
1573	root	1.432	19:18 <elmex> schmorp: eben anner kasse stand jemadn hinter mir und faselte mit seinen
1574			kumpels zum thema bill gates: "... er ist ja mein vorbild, nicht jetzt
1575			wegen dem geld, sondern wegen dem charakterlichen und so ... der hat ja
1576			die haelfte seines vermoegens gespendet.... und ne jacht hat der auch...
1577	root	1.431	abe was fuer eine... voll fettes schiff...'
1578			19:19 <schmorp> rofl
1579			19:19 <schmorp> aber nicht wegem dme geld
1580			19:19 <elmex> der studiert glaub ich informatik :)
1581			19:19 <elmex> das is die neue generation
1582			19:19 <elmex> 'generation gates'
1583			19:19 <schmorp> die frage schiene mcirosoft oder schiene java erübrigt sich
1584			%
1585			http://www.bissantz.de/pub/Luegen_mit_Statistiken.pdf
1586			%
1587			[http://use.perl.org/~luqui/journal/]
1588			[The reason I left Perl 6]
1589
1590			The virtue of social art was extinguished when the solutions that I had
1591			worked for weeks on and I considered truly beautiful lost to syntax
1592			bloat and "DWIM tables". It bascially came down to the rest of the team
1593			considering Perl much more pragmatically than I did, which may end up
1594			better for the end result anyway—it is hard to tell.
1595			%
1596			http://www.ta-sa.org/files/sc/perl6_timeline_updated.png
1597			%
1598			00:20 <schmorp> Mikachu: xjdic lists ぶっかける as to dash (slosh) water (or other liquid)onapersonorinaperson'sface
1599			00:21 <Mikachu> yeah, that made me laugh a bit
1600			00:21 <Mikachu> "or other liquid, know what i mean, nudge nudge"
1601			%
1602			[very funny read]
1603			Hack-a-Bike
1604			USK@vZ8crASNqmw9APiGDtTxV0YvspklNnOTmQin0ZsPLdk,bnUaihNj6Ww8CFvBQo4UwH0pYiS0hOyeKIxvO0tZdJk,AQABAAE/hack-a-bike/1/index_de.html
1605			%
1606			Now that habeas corpus and other basic rights, including the right not to
1607			be tortured while interrogated, have now been deemed unnecessary, more
1608			Americans than ever have been thinking of getting out the door while they
1609			still can.
1610
1611			http://www.boingboing.net/2006/10/23/getting_out_your_gui.html
1612			%
1613	root	1.432	23:52 <elmex> Zaehlen sie die wichtigsten Berufsfelder der IT-Branche auf:
1614			Java-code-affe, Bussiness-scheisse-laber-affe, Windows-admin,
1615	root	1.431	Windows-user, echter Admin und echter Programmierer.
1616			%
1617			[without words]
1618			http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/1030/104_print.html
1619			%
1620			[http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030217/cockburn]
1621			We're in the twilit world of the "thought crime." Have a photo of a kid in
1622			a bath on your hard drive, and the prosecutor says you were looking at it
1623			with lust in your heart, and that is tantamount to sexually molesting an
1624			actual kid in an actual bath.
1625			%
1626			Don't put stock in the Constitution, anymore. It IS just a piece of paper,
1627			today (actually, since Oct 17th). The Military Commissions Act of 2006
1628			makes the Constitution null and void. You (regardless of your citizenship)
1629			may be held with no charges, for no reason, for an indefinite time, with
1630			absolutely no judicial oversight. It is completely legal for the
1631			government to pick you up and for you to disappear with no one ever knowing
1632			what happened to you.
1633			%
1634	root	1.432	--
1635	root	1.431	Markus Schulz
1636
1637			A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion
1638			Q: Why is top posting bad?
1639			%
1640			On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 02:05:19AM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
1641	root	1.432	> 1. It's not that I don't want to, but I _can't_ implement kprobes and not
1642			> due to lack of skills, but lack of resources. (There is a subtle but
1643	root	1.431	> important difference.)
1644
1645			Um, given the amount of time you've spent trying to pursuade us why
1646			you can't implement kprobes for m68k, perhaps you would have
1647			implemented it already if you had buckled down and started coding
1648			instead of flaming about why everyone else should bend over backwards
1649			just because you don't have time for your arch? :-)
1650
1651			- Ted
1652			%
1653			[http://richarddawkins.net/mainPage.php?bodyPage=article_body.php&id=183]
1654			"I want to see young people who are as committed to the cause of Jesus
1655			Christ as the young people are to the cause of Islam. I want to see them
1656			as radically laying down their lives for the gospel as they are over in
1657			Pakistan and Israel and Palestine and all those different places... Excuse
1658			me, but we have the truth!"
1659			%
1660			[Meijin Title Game #3, Takao Shinji vs. Cho U]
1661			(22) archimed [18k?]: actually, what are considered to be their respective strengths?
1662			(22) zephi [ 7k+]: takao's strength is kickin cho u's butt
1663			(22) zephi [ 7k+]: cho u's a big fighter
1664			%
1665			[nethack extinctionist faq]
1666			The first "extinctionist" ascension on r.g.r.n. (at least from what I can
1667			tell) seems to have been by Matthew Bourland in 2000, who although he
1668			didn't actually kill everything, certainly genocided all (at the time) 256
1669			monster types that were genocidable. Then, after that he extincted all
1670			other randomly generated monsters. On the other hand, having 120 kills
1671			in every category is perhaps more noteworthy (or foolhardy?) than simply
1672			genociding every monster.
1673
1674			I'd recommend a dose of both. Kill them until they're dead and then
1675			genocide them for good measure!
1676			%%
1677			[nethack instadeath faq]
1678
1679			* eating Death, Famine, Pestilence, Medusa, or green slime corpses
1680
1681			Well let's face it, this is just plain stupid. So don't do it!
1682			%
1683			17:57 <zaphod> Murch: Stroemungslehre ist geil
1684			17:57 <Murch> zaphod: hm?
1685	root	1.432	17:57 <zaphod> Murch: "Diese Gleichungen sind, zumindest aus der Sicht eines
1686	root	1.431	Ingenieurs, als exakt anzusehen."
1687			17:58 <Murch> lol
1688			%
1689			22:51 -cfbot:#cf- [Wrathmagic] oh i love killing pirates yes i do i love stabbing them through and through
1690			%
1691			[Brazil and Bush’s War on Terror]
1692			http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/blumen3.html
1693			%
1694			http://trac.syr.edu/tracreports/terrorism/169/
1695			%
1696			http://web3.0log.org/2006/09/01/new-secure-browser-browzar-is-fake-and-full-of-adware/
1697
1698			There was time when badware developers tried to install ad pages as homepage
1699			or searchpage in user’s IE by any possible means. Nowadays users install
1700			adware voluntarily and write news about it. True web2.0 style!
1701			%
1702			http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/05/universal_time_zone.html
1703
1704			At the United Nations today President George W. Bush
1705			announced a proposal to unify all the world's time zones
1706			into a single Universal Time Zone (UTZ), formerly known as
1707			the Eastern Time Zone.
1708			[...]
1709			Britain immediately supported the US plan. "If it means
1710			sleeping in broad daylight then we'll stick with our
1711			allies," said Tony Blair, "Of course there's never broad
1712			daylight in the UK, so it's not much of an issue."
1713			%
1714			Wow, and this in security-relevant code... (taken from libc's ld.so)
1715
1716			_dl_profile_output
1717			= &"/var/tmp\0/var/profile"[__libc_enable_secure ? 9 : 0];
1718			%
1719			[CRYPTO-GRAM]
1720			By January 1st, 2007, everyone crossing the border between the U.S. and Canada is supposed to have
1721			a passport. This is because of terrorism, of course. But now we learn that ferries and private
1722			watercraft will be exempt. One of two things is true. Either passports are required for
1723			security, in which case we should interfere with ferries. Or they're for show, in which case we
1724			can just do what's convenient. Or maybe we just know that terrorists never take ferries. I get
1725			that security is a trade-off, but this is kind of silly.
1726
1727			http://tinyurl.com/zl5af
1728			%
1729			[famous last words]
1730			11:22 <kaizoku> what do you mean by plonk?
1731			%
1732			What make a provider a tier 2, versus a tier 1 provider...
1733
1734			"We are a tier 1 provider" = "I am a salesperson."
1735
1736			"They are a tier 2 provider." = "I am a salesperson and they are our competitor".
1737
1738			--
1739			Jay Hennigan
1740			%
1741			http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/17_Mistakes_Microsoft_Made_in_the_Xbox_Security_System
1742			%
1743			[latimes story about a man returning to the us from iraq and being
1744			held for selling copyrighted images on t-shirts by the department
1745			of homeland security]
1746			http://tinyurl.com/ourlr
1747			%
1748			"Some other types of programs won't make the transition to Windows x64
1749	root	1.432	seamlessly, either. Microsoft ships WinXP x64 with two versions of
1750	root	1.431	Internet Explorer, a 32-bit version and a 64-bit version. The 32-bit
1751			version is the OS default because nearly all ActiveX controls and the like
1752			are 32-bit code, and where would we be if we couldn't execute the full
1753			range of spyware available to us?"
1754
1755			[http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/64-bits/index.x?pg=1]
1756			%
1757			[http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/kglobalaccel__x11_8cpp-source.html]
1758			00279 if( pEvent->xkey.state & KKeyServer::modXNumLock() ) {
1759			00280 // TODO: what's the xor operator in c++?
1760			%
1761	root	1.432	<Mikachu> give a man a fix and he's running urxvt one day, teach a man
1762	root	1.431	to fix and he will run urxvt all his life
1763			%
1764			The NSA Phone Call Database: The European Perspective
1765			http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2006/05/the_nsa_phone_c.html
1766			%
1767			Oh, I agree completely. No game has ever let me down the way Oblivoin
1768			did. I"m still hoping mods and expansions will fix it but there's no way
1769			I'm pre-ordering the next one. I'm afraid it really will be a first person
1770			shooter.
1771
1772			The really scary thing is that it's not just video games. Book sales were
1773			done last year because people just don't read as much anymore. I'm having
1774			to dumb down my newspaper editorials because people used to want analysis
1775			they could use to make their own opinions, now they seem to just want
1776			opinions they can quote without having to think for themselves. McDonalds
1777			puts pictures of the food on the cash register instead of numbers.
1778
1779			Face it. The human race is devolving. In 500 years the best selling RPG
1780			in the universe will be a console game where you roleplay an ape named
1781			Fred, swing on vines and throw your own excrement. You'll have one stat,
1782			apeness. It wiill effect everything you do in a subtle, yet unexplained
1783			way.
1784
1785			And Bethesda fan boys will be screaming "TES 504: Monkeypoo good. You go
1786			bak cave, no good rpger. Two stats bad. Made feces throw too hard. Shiney
1787			key graphic good. Make me happy."
1788
1789			shrugs But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
1790			%
1791			> So Hitler was a pacifist because he let other people kill for him? Most
1792			> D&D computer games require you to kill people (not simply knock them
1793			> out). Also just because you don't kill doesn't make you a pacifist (see
1794			> above comment about Hitler).
1795
1796			I invoke the European rule: In any given argument, the first side to
1797			mention Hitler loses.
1798			%
1799			[siggraph '99 course 12]
1800			Unfortunately, including <windows.h> has the unfortunate side effect of
1801			introducing literally thousands of macros and type declarations into
1802			your compilation environment. This undesirable "name space pollution"
1803			can sometimes affect source code portability by conflicting with your
1804			program's own macros and types. This can particularly be a problem for
1805			UNIX programmers that are not familiar with all the junk that comes with
1806			including <windows.h>.
1807			[...]
1808			Win32's requirement that you use wglGetProcAddress is a real drag,
1809			but if you do everything right, using OpenGL extensions works and
1810			gives you access to amazing new OpenGL features. And let's be honest;
1811			wglGet- ProcAddress is hardly the only annoying and awkward thing about
1812			programming with the Win32 API. Still, by using the C preprocessor and
1813			coding carefully, you actually can write OpenGL programs that use OpenGL
1814			extensions and compile from the same source code for both UNIX and Win32
1815			environments.
1816			%
1817			http://neil.franklin.ch/Usenet/alt.folklore.computers/19981207_Computers_are_so_STY00PID
1818			%
1819			[http://www.voynich.net/Kryptos]
1820			"It's easier to rig an electronic voting machine than a Las Vegas slot machine"
1821			%
1822			[CRYPTO-GRAM 2006-03-15]
1823			[...] There are all sorts of interests vying for control of your
1824			computer. There are media companies that want to control what you can
1825			do with the music and videos they sell you. There are companies that
1826			use software as a conduit to collect marketing information, deliver
1827			advertising or do whatever it is their real owners require. And there are
1828			software companies that are trying to make money by pleasing not only
1829			their customers, but other companies they ally themselves with. All these
1830			companies want to own your computer.
1831
1832			Some examples:
1833
1834			1. Entertainment software: In October 2005, it emerged that Sony had
1835			distributed a rootkit with several music CDs -- the same kind of
1836			software that crackers use to own people's computers. This rootkit
1837			secretly installed itself when the music CD was played on a computer.
1838			Its purpose was to prevent people from doing things with the music that
1839			Sony didn't approve of: It was a DRM system. If the exact same piece of
1840			software had been installed secretly by a hacker, this would have been
1841			an illegal act. But Sony believed that it had legitimate reasons for
1842			wanting to own its customers' machines.
1843	root	1.432
1844	root	1.431	2. Antivirus: You might have expected your antivirus software to detect
1845			Sony's rootkit. After all, that's why you bought it. But initially, the
1846			security programs sold by Symantec and others did not detect it,
1847			because Sony had asked them not to. You might have thought that the
1848			software you bought was working for you, but you would have been wrong.
1849
1850			3. Internet services: Hotmail allows you to blacklist certain e-mail
1851			addresses, so that mail from them automatically goes into your spam
1852			trap. Have you ever tried blocking all that incessant marketing e-mail
1853			from Microsoft? You can't.
1854
1855			4. Application software: Internet Explorer users might have expected
1856			the program to incorporate easy-to-use cookie handling and pop-up
1857			blockers. After all, other browsers do, and users have found them
1858			useful in defending against Internet annoyances. But Microsoft isn't
1859			just selling software to you; it sells Internet advertising as well. It
1860			isn't in the company's best interest to offer users features that would
1861			adversely affect its business partners.
1862
1863			5. Spyware: Spyware is nothing but someone else trying to own your
1864			computer. These programs eavesdrop on your behavior and report back to
1865			their real owners -- sometimes without your knowledge or consent --
1866			about your behavior.
1867
1868			6. Update: Automatic update features are another way software companies
1869			try to own your computer. While they can be useful for improving
1870			security, they also require you to trust your software vendor not to
1871			disable your computer for nonpayment, breach of contract or other
1872			presumed infractions.
1873
1874			Adware, software-as-a-service and Google Desktop search are all
1875			examples of some other company trying to own your computer. And Trusted
1876			Computing will only make the problem worse.
1877
1878			There is an inherent insecurity to technologies that try to own
1879			people's computers: They allow individuals other than the computers'
1880			legitimate owners to enforce policy on those machines. These systems
1881			invite attackers to assume the role of the third party and turn a
1882			user's device against him.
1883			[...]
1884			You can fight back against this trend by only using software that
1885			respects your boundaries. Boycott companies that don't honestly serve
1886			their customers, that don't disclose their alliances, that treat users
1887			like marketing assets. Use open-source software -- software created and
1888			owned by users, with no hidden agendas, no secret alliances and no
1889			back-room marketing deals.
1890			%
1891			[John Carmack on Java]
1892			Write-once-run-anywhere. Ha. Hahahahaha. We are only testing on four
1893			platforms right now, and not a single pair has the exact same quirks. All
1894			the commercial games are tweaked and compiled individually for each
1895			(often 100+) platform. Portability is not a justification for the awful
1896			performance.
1897			%
1898			[http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,415577,00.html]
1899
1900			"Wenn ich höre, dass die Telekom mit Microsoft kooperiert, da wird mir
1901			ganz anders", sagte Herbert Tillmann, der Vorsitzende der Produktions-
1902			und Technikkommission von ARD und ZDF dem Blatt. Man bevorzuge offene
1903			Standards und wolle sich der Plattform von Microsoft nicht ausliefern.
1904			%
1905			http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2006/05/german_cannibal.html
1906			%
1907			"Ok, this is complete off topic but WHY do so many Americans think that
1908			once your cross the 49th parellel into Canada that they are going out into
1909			a technology- and civilization-free zone???"
1910			http://p203.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm31
1911			%
1912			http://funroll-loops.org/
1913			%
1914			[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL]
1915			When Direct3D was released in 1995, Microsoft, SGI, and Hewlett-Packard
1916			initiated the Fahrenheit project, which was a joint effort with the
1917			goal of unifying the OpenGL and Direct3D interfaces - and again, adding
1918			a scene-graph API. It initially showed some promise of bringing order
1919			to the world of interactive 3D computer graphics APIs, but on account
1920			of financial constraints at SGI and general lack of industry support
1921			it was abandoned. The engineers involved at SGI held a beach party in
1922			celebration - complete with bonfires on which they burned piles of
1923			Fahrenheit documentation.
1924			%
1925			[Whenever I try to use svn, it fails me. Sure I modified files, but whats
1926			the point of a RCS system that can't cope with that? Besides, I am 100%
1927			sure its much slower than CVS]
1928			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
1929			svn: Won't delete locally modified directory '.'
1930			svn: Left locally modified or unversioned files
1931	root	1.432	[Exit 1]
1932	root	1.431	cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
1933			svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
1934	root	1.432	[Exit 1]
1935	root	1.431	cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn diff
1936			svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
1937	root	1.432	[Exit 1]
1938	root	1.431	[Great, my local fixes are lost now, too. Whoever let this horror loose on
1939			humanity deserves to be shot or something like that]
1940			%
1941	root	1.430	[http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431.12]
1942
1943			... I'm evaluating a bunch of J2EE portlet-enabled JSR-compliant MVC
1944			role-based CMS web service application container frameworks. ...
1945	root	1.431	%
1946	root	1.429	Subject: RE: Question about Leap Second Features
1947
1948			> Is there any implementation for this information on Microsoft operating
1949			> systems ?
1950
1951			Any Microsoft operating system that is accurate down to the second can
1952			probably be hand-picked from Bill Gates' garage ... ;-)
1953
1954			Jesper
1955			%
1956	root	1.428	[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ballmer]
1957
1958			"As far as I can tell, the phrase 'I. Love. This. Company.
1959			YEEEAAAAAAAAARARRRRARAGH!' has FIVE words, not four."
1960
1961	root	1.432	~ Oscar Wilde on Steve Ballmer having four words for you.
1962	root	1.429	%
1963	root	1.427	http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/kafkaesque.html
1964			%
1965	root	1.426	[http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136541]
1966
1967			You've doubled the work. People don't like that. People REALLY don't
1968			like that. The number of duplicate bugs filed against the chooser is
1969			evidence for this. Furthermore, click depth is a standard metric for
1970			measuring HCI usability, and this dialog has moved in the absolute wrong
1971			direction. People won't be satisfied until they get the entry box back
1972			into the dialog. You can grind your teeth and pull your hair all you want,
1973			but that's the truth.
1974			%
1975	root	1.424	[de.alt.ufo]
1976
1977			Braun Ludwig <Wick84@gmx.de> wrote:
1978
1979	root	1.432	> 1. Ufos sind für mich Flugobjekte des US Militärs mit einen neuartigen
1980			> Atrieb, der mit einen Motorgenerator von ca 100000 Volt und einer
1981			> Stromstärke von ca 2 mA, einer elektronischen Steuereinheit und einer
1982			> Antriebseinheit auf Kondensator Basis betrieben wird. Zur Erklärung des
1983	root	1.424
1984			Aaha! Naja, die Elektrogravitation ist wirklich seit langem bekannt. Damit aber
1985	root	1.425	einen Antrieb zu realisieren halte ich für weniger wahrscheinlich. So abstrakt
1986			ist diese Funktion nicht und es wären schon mehr als ein Mensch dahinter
1987	root	1.424	gekommen. Ich sicher auch.
1988
1989			Allerdings schreibst Du hier von einem Generator. Es stellt sich die Frage
1990			was genau man mit 2 mA erzeugen will. Jeder Paralyzer schafft das mit
1991	root	1.425	der Hälfte der Spannung auch. Ich habe aber noch kein Opfer schweben
1992	root	1.424	gesehen. Im Gegenteil - die bewegen sich eigentlich immer ziemlich schnell
1993			in Richtung Boden.
1994
1995			[...]
1996
1997	root	1.432	> Dieser Ufo Flugzeug Typ wird in erster Linie als Spionage und
1998	root	1.425	> Aufklärungsflugobject eingesetzt.
1999	root	1.424
2000			Verstehe. Was ist in Afrika so interessant? Bekanntlich gibt oder gab es
2001	root	1.425	da bisher die überwiegenden Sichtungen. Was will z.B. der Ami von den
2002	root	1.424	Eingeborenen erfahren? Wie man richtig Reis oder Getreide kocht?
2003
2004			[...]
2005
2006			> 2. ausserirdische Ufo Flugobjekte.
2007	root	1.432	> Es gibt maximal 1 oder 2 oder drei ausserirdische Flugzeug
2008	root	1.425	> Beobachtungen, die tatsächlich wahr sind.
2009	root	1.424
2010			Nur drei? Das muss ich mir merken, damit ich das nicht vergesse. Welche
2011	root	1.425	mögen das Deiner Meinung nach wohl gewesen sein? Das ist ja noch
2012			schlimmer als Cenap, die von etwa 100.000 Fällen 1% erforscht haben,
2013			die wiederum schon im Vorfeld als 'normal' geklärt waren. Mit dieser
2014	root	1.424	Meinung solltest Du zu WW gehen und dich vorstellen. Der nimmmt Dich
2015			sofort.
2016			%
2017	root	1.423	[http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/Tech/connect4.htm]
2018			By the way, decryption can be performed easily in your editor with syntax
2019			like !!tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M (Sorry if you had the misfortune to buy your
2020			software from Microsoft.)
2021	root	1.424	%
2022	root	1.422	http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/
2023	root	1.424	%
2024	root	1.421	> BTW I have 2 English words for you, FUCK YOU
2025
2026			Why, that's a rather intimate proposal. I never realised you were
2027			gay. While I would like to offer the hand of friendship, I am
2028			afraid that the thought of sex with a grown man doesn't really do
2029			much for me so I shall have to decline with a modicum of regret.
2030	root	1.424	%
2031	root	1.420	http://www.ta-sa.org/files/java_godkk.jpg
2032	root	1.419	http://www.chunder.com/carrots/javasux.html
2033	root	1.424	%
2034	root	1.418	Subject: Re: Docket No. 2005-22114
2035			From: Rodrigo Severo
2036			Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:04:33 -0200
2037			To: tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov
2038
2039			On 1/23/06, Paul Eggert wrote:
2040
2041			"David Braverman" <david@inner-drive.com> writes:
2042			It is a bit ironic that the US is less efficient than Brazil in fixing
2043			obviously-broken regulations like this.
2044
2045			I'm sorry but I have to ask: where is the irony in this? I hope the answer
2046			isn't obvious to people from US and I'm not seeing it just because I'm
2047			brazilian ;)
2048			Rodrigo Severo
2049	root	1.424	%
2050	root	1.431	[Frankly, I'd just like to know what GNOME did wrong to deserve this :]
2051	root	1.417
2052			http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/faq.html#1.13
2053	root	1.424	%
2054	root	1.416	[Another entry in the series "make this a blog":]
2055
2056			I wanted to see it for myself, and directed my browser to http://www.mpaa.org/.
2057
2058			Got "Bad Request (Invalid Header Name)".
2059
2060			Well.. some investigation showed that it didn't like the headers added by
2061			squid (in mostly default debian config).
2062
2063			sigh
2064	root	1.424	%
2065	root	1.415	A LIBERAL DECALOGUE
2066			By Bertrand Russell
2067
2068			Perhaps the essence of the Liberal outlook could be summed up in a new
2069			decalogue, not intended to replace the old one but only to supplement
2070			it. The Ten Commandments that, as a teacher, I should wish to promulgate,
2071			might be set forth as follows:
2072
2073			1. Do not feel absolutely certain of anything.
2074
2075			2. Do not think it worth while to proceed by concealing evidence, for the
2076			evidence is sure to come to light.
2077
2078			3. Never try to discourage thinking for you are sure to succeed.
2079
2080			4. When you meet with opposition, even if it should be from your husband
2081			or your children, endeavor to overcome it by argument and not by
2082			authority, for a victory dependent upon authority is unreal and illusory.
2083
2084			5. Have no respect for the authority of others, for there are always
2085			contrary authorities to be found.
2086
2087			6. Do not use power to suppress opinions you think pernicious, for if you
2088			do the opinions will suppress you.
2089
2090			7. Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted
2091			was once eccentric.
2092
2093			8. Find more pleasure in intelligent dissent that in passive agreement,
2094			for, if you value intelligence as you should, the former implies a deeper
2095			agreement than the latter.
2096
2097			9. Be scrupulously truthful, even if the truth is inconvenient, for it is
2098			more inconvenient when you try to conceal it.
2099
2100			10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool's
2101			paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness."
2102
2103			"A Liberal Decalogue" is from The Autobiography of Bertrand Russell,
2104			Vol. 3: 1944-1969, pp. 71-2.
2105	root	1.424	%
2106	root	1.413	[http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/12/09/502014.aspx]
2107	root	1.412	John Hoy, President of the DVD Copy Control Association, made
2108			the following statement to the Library of Congress in its 2003
2109			Anticircumvention rulemaking proceedings:
2110
2111			"Furthermore, if a consumer in the United States desires to view a DVD disc
2112			that has been region coded only for Europe, then that consumer is free to
2113			purchase a DVD player (either hardware or software) that is coded to play
2114			European DVDs. No legal restrictions apply-either through the CSS license
2115			or otherwise-to the importation and use of non-U.S. region players in the
2116			United States."
2117	root	1.413	---
2118			It must really suck to live in a nation where competition is actually
2119			outlawed - you have to feel sorry for all those people oppressed by
2120			communists and socialists. Oh, wait.... ;)
2121	root	1.414	---
2122			"You ain't seen nothin' yet! I heard that the new HD-DVDs or Blue-ray
2123			discs (whichever win eventually) will be street-encoded. You have to
2124			quote your street name while buying DVDs and they won't work in the next
2125			street. The hidden reason for this is that MPAA wants to charge upwards of
2126			$1000 per DVD for those living in million dollar mansions."
2127
2128			This isn't far from the truth. Blu-ray disks for PlayStation3 will only
2129			play in ONE player on earth. MS will eventually make up something similar.
2130	root	1.424	%
2131	root	1.411	[gnome-clock and my radio-clock failed miserably, /bin/date and Linux worked:]
2132			Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC
2133	root	1.424	%
2134	root	1.410	[http://www.slate.com/id/2133993/]
2135
2136			Vulnerabilities deemed "critical" have forced the company to release an
2137			almost unending stream of patches and fixes [...]
2138
2139			Sure, it might be nice to connect your computer and your television
2140			set. But is it worth it to give hackers access to your television?
2141
2142			Even if we don't use them, we suffer from them.
2143
2144			[...] a former senior security analyst for the House of Representatives,
2145			believes that Microsoft is a threat to national security.
2146	root	1.424	%
2147	root	1.409	[Copyright History - US view]
2148			http://www.culturaleconomics.atfreeweb.com/cpu.htm
2149	root	1.424	%
2150	root	1.408	[I just re-read the unix haters hadnbook]
2151			X has had its share of $5,000 toilet seats -- like Sun's Open Look clock
2152			tool, which gobbles up 1.4 megabytes of real memory! If you sacrificed all
2153			the RAM from 22 Commodore 64s to clock tool, it still wouldn't have enough
2154			to tell you the time. Even the vanilla X11R4 "xclock" utility consumed
2155			656K to run. And X's memory usage is increasing.
2156	root	1.424	%
2157	root	1.406	[Got to remember this way of arguing, it's great if it works:]
2158
2159			"Most people, I think, don’t even know what a rootkit is, so why should
2160			they care about it?"
2161			-- Thomas Hesse, Sony BMG’s Global Digital Business President.
2162	root	1.407
2163			[see also http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004145.php]
2164	root	1.424	%
2165	root	1.405	Let me repeat again: Formal axiomatic systems are a failure!
2166			-- Gregory Chaitin
2167	root	1.424	%
2168	root	1.432	13:49 <RayTracer> pixelsize=14 ist so groß wie 8 beim xchat wenn ich den
2169	root	1.404	gnome-settings-daemon nicht lade
2170			13:50 <schmorp> autsch, was hat das mit dem gnome-settings-daemon zu tun? ist ja hart!
2171			[...]
2172	root	1.432	13:51 <RayTracer> wenn ich den nicht lade sind alle gtk-programme mit großem Font,
2173			wenn ich ihn lade werden sie klein gemacht und wenn ich ihn töte ist
2174	root	1.404	wieder alles groß
2175	root	1.424	%
2176	root	1.403	[man perlsub]
2177			That prints "unphooey". (Yes, there are still unresolved issues
2178			having to do with visibility of @_. I’m ignoring that question
2179			for the moment. (But note that if we make @_ lexically scoped,
2180			those anonymous subroutines can act like closures... (Gee, is this
2181			sounding a little Lispish? (Never mind.))))
2182	root	1.424	%
2183	root	1.402	[glibc's bits/socket.h]
2184
2185			if ((size_t) __cmsg->cmsg_len < sizeof (struct cmsghdr))
2186	root	1.432	/* The kernel header does this so there may be a reason. */
2187			return 0;
2188	root	1.424	%
2189	root	1.400	http://www.wicked-vision.com/zensur/zensur/zensur_bei_filmen.html
2190	root	1.401
2191			> Die Argumente liefen insbesondere darauf hinaus, dass es sich bei den
2192			> Filmen, auf die in Anspielungen verwiesen wird, um Filme handelt, die
2193			> entweder von der FSK gekennzeichnet wurden mit "nicht freigegeben
2194			> unter 18 Jahren", die von der Bundesprüfstelle indiziert wurden oder
2195			> die sogar durch entsprechende Beschlüsse bundesweit beschlagnahmt
2196			> wurden, also alles Filme, die Kindern und Jugendlichen aufgrund der
2197			> Gesetze zum Jugendschutz von vornherein nicht zugänglich sind. Kindern
2198			> und Jugendlichen wird daher die Persiflage auf diese Filme nicht
2199			> transparent.
2200
2201			Das muß man sich mal auf der Zunge zergehen lassen: Da wird ein Film,
2202			der ab 18 Jahren freigegeben ist, indiziert, weil Kinder und Jugendliche
2203			die parodistischen Anspielungen nicht verstehen könnten. Mit solchen
2204			Begründungen beraubt sich die BPjS letztlich ihrer Glaubwürdigkeit.
2205	root	1.424	%
2206	root	1.399	Großmanns Gesetz: Komplexe Probleme haben einfache, leichtverständliche,
2207			aber falsche Lösungen.
2208	root	1.424	%
2209	root	1.398	A project done in Java will cost 5 times as much, take twice as long,
2210			and be harder to maintain than a project done in a scripting language such
2211			as PHP or Perl. [http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/09/20#a1762 Java
2212			is the SUV of programming tools] Philip Greenspun
2213	root	1.424	%
2214	root	1.397	On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Till Kamppeter wrote:
2215			>
2216			> Frederic told that the options from the PPD file are intentionally mot
2217			> listed in the printing dialog, the usability team of GNOME was against
2218			> listing these options. They clutter the dialog and can be more confusing
2219			> than useful to the user.
2220
2221			I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE.
2222
2223			This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of
2224			Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will
2225			use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long
2226			since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do.
2227
2228			Please, just tell people to use KDE.
2229
2230			Linus
2231	root	1.424	%
2232	root	1.396	Move 80, Node 81
2233			theodore [22k?]: i hear 8 d can read the future
2234			setzer [?]: what about 9d
2235			theodore [22k?]: they control it
2236	root	1.424	%
2237	root	1.395	[Fuqid 1.6 FAQ]
2238			Wenn ich HTL auf 300 setze dann lade ich viel schneller runter, warum?
2239
2240	root	1.398	Weil du daran glaubst, das hat nur psychologische Gründe. HTL's grösser
2241	root	1.395	als das Nodelimit haben einfach keinen Einfluss. PUNKT!
2242			--
2243			Warum wurde Fuqid nicht in der geilen Sprache XX geschrieben?
2244
2245			Du sprichst nur eine Sprache? Bist du Amerikaner?
2246	root	1.424	%
2247	root	1.393	[Are people responsible for the company they work at?]
2248			I was at a party in New York City earlier this year, and a conversation went like this:
2249
2250			Person: What do you do?
2251			Me: I'm a computer programmer at Microsoft.
2252			Person: <viciously> I hate you.
2253
2254			If Miss Manners didn't say so explicitly, I suspect she would nevertheless
2255			agree that snarling "I hate you" to somebody on first introduction is not
2256			exactly getting off on the right foot.
2257	root	1.394
2258			[And this is how that Microsoft programmer reacts to bugs in Microsoft software]
2259			http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/10/17/481810.aspx
2260	root	1.424	%
2261	root	1.392	"The music and film industries are demanding that the European parliament
2262			extends the scope of proposed anti-terror laws to help them prosecute
2263			illegal downloaders."
2264
2265			Bill Thompson at the BBC has some pertinent commentary:
2266
2267			"If they cannot come up with a business model which allows them to make
2268			profits without criminalising their customers, trampling over our civil
2269			liberties or installing malware on our computers then they do not deserve
2270			to stay in business, and new ways for artists to reach the public will
2271			have to emerge."
2272
2273			http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4469886.stm
2274	root	1.424	%
2275	root	1.425	>Damit dürftest du der zweite Mensch sein, den ich kenne, der sich mit
2276	root	1.391	>einer so spartanischen Hardwareausstattung zufrieden gibt:) Ich selbst
2277
2278			Mein Arbeitsplatz ist eine HP 715/80 - also 80 MHz. Da drauf laeuft der vi
2279			immer noch genauso schnell wie vor zehn Jahren :)
2280
2281			Bye, Andy
2282	root	1.424	%
2283	root	1.398	[ka.uni.rz.stud, warum bestimmte zeichen in passwörtern verboten sind]
2284	root	1.425	>einem Passwort nicht zulässt, das kann ich nachvollziehen, aber wieso ein
2285	root	1.390	>Dollarzeichen, Leerzeichen, Klammeraffe, Doppelkreuz, Prozent, doppelte
2286	root	1.425	>Anführungszeichen, Paragraph und was es da noch so alles gibt? Und wieso nur
2287	root	1.390
2288			Dollarzeichen: DCE kann nicht damit umgehen.
2289			Leerzeichen: sind nur am Anfang und Ende eines PW verboten - es gibt
2290			System, die das wegstrippen :(
2291			Klammeraffe: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Kill-Zeichen (stammt
2292			halt noch aus der Zeit, als Fernschreiber als I/O-Geraete benutzt
2293			wurde, und ein Fernschreiber, der druckt, kann per Definition kein
2294			Backspace o.ae. haben - Tipp-Ex-Baender waren nicht eingebaut :)
2295			- und es gibt eben noch Systeme, die zum lokalen Login diese STTY-
2296			Settings benutzen. Seit wir die VT100-Terminals abgebaut haben,
2297			ist das fuer Studenten weniger relevant, unser BV behandelt aber
2298			alle Benutzer.
2299			Doppelkreuz: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Erase-Zeichen
2300			Prozent: Mift, das hab' ich mir nicht aufgeschrieben, geht aber auch in
2301			irgendeinem System nicht. Vielleicht sollte man es mal wieder
2302			probieren (bis es knallt)?
2303			Doppelte Anfuehrungszeichen: Wurden von Radius als Begrenzer benutzt. Ja,
2304			der Radius-Server funktionierte nur mit Klartext-Passwoertern :(
2305			Ja, funktionierte, Vergangenheitsform, er ist jetzt endlich tot :)
2306			Ja, damit kann ich die doppelten Anfuehrungszeichen freigeben :)
2307			Paragraph: ist kein ASCII-Zeichen. Das kann die lustigsten Probleme geben,
2308			insbesondere wenn verschiedene encodings benutzt werden - IMHO gibt
2309			es auch Implementierungen, die das 8. Bit wegschneiden...
2310	root	1.424	%
2311	root	1.389	[subversion is just plain broken. I just lost all my local modifications, right?]
2312
2313			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2314			svn: Working copy '.' locked
2315			svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2316			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn cleanup
2317			svn: 'programs/mythlcd' is not a working copy directory
2318			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2319			svn: Working copy '.' locked
2320			svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2321			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn help cleanup
2322			cleanup: Recursively clean up the working copy, removing locks, resuming
2323			unfinished operations, etc.
2324			usage: cleanup [PATH...]
2325
2326			Valid options:
2327			--diff3-cmd arg : use ARG as merge command
2328			--config-dir arg : read user configuration files from directory ARG
2329
2330			[Thanks for the details. Not.]
2331	root	1.424	%
2332	root	1.388	But there's an observation I can't help doing: it seems to me that the
2333			ratio of increase in the complexity of (some aspects of) the language _is_
2334			_much_ _bigger_ than that in the functionality such complexity is supposed
2335			to provide.
2336			- perl6-language - michele dondi
2337	root	1.424	%
2338	root	1.386	[From: perl6-language]
2339
2340			The fact that there's not alot of active p5p'ers on this list should
2341			alarm people more.
2342
2343			-Nate
2344
2345			[...]
2346
2347			My take on that is that it is because Perl 6 is not a new version of
2348			Perl 5. I still think "Perl" is a misleading name, and mostly hurts the
2349			image of the language that is created here.
2350
2351			Juerd
2352
2353			[...]
2354
2355			(Oh, and that perl6 will never be able to upgrade my scripts that use
2356			'format', but I'm aware of the plan to make that `obsolete' as in: the
2357			perl526 translator will dump core on those)
2358
2359	root	1.432	--
2360	root	1.386	H.Merijn Brand
2361	root	1.387	%
2362	root	1.385	Die Firma Microsoft warnte asiatische Regierungen am Donnerstag,
2363	root	1.388	dass diese patentrechtlich verklagt werden könnten, wenn sie das
2364	root	1.385	Betriebssystem Linux anstelle von Microsoft's Windows-Software einsetzen.
2365			Nachrichtenagentur Reuters (18. November 2004)
2366	root	1.387	%
2367	root	1.384	[Come on, "kidtalk"???]
2368			http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx
2369	root	1.387	%
2370	root	1.383	[Priceless :)]
2371			http://www.scottmccloud.com/comics/icst/icst-6/icst-6-full.html
2372	root	1.387	%
2373	root	1.382	[http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/15/1312216&from=rss]
2374			>> I hate it whenever Word tries to encourage me not to use passive.
2375			[...]
2376			> Okay then, translate "The window has been broken" into active voice.
2377			"Windows is broken."
2378	root	1.387	%
2379	root	1.381	[Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon on the perl6-language list:]
2380			Removing features simply because their implementation is inconvenient
2381			is not The Perl Way. If it were, Perl 6 would be Java With Sigils.
2382	root	1.387	%
2383	root	1.380	[Incidentally, the USoA is one of the two countries on earth that insist
2384			on being able to kill their children legally]
2385			http://www.post-gazette.com/breaking/20040329pornp6.asp
2386	root	1.387	%
2387	root	1.379	[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test]
2388			The Miller test is the United States Supreme Court's test for determining
2389			whether speech or expression can be labeled obscene [...]
2390	root	1.387	%
2391	root	1.377	[http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050923-5346.html]
2392			"They find the anti-pornography crowd disturbing because they believe
2393			that policing pornography violates fundamental rights. This has become
2394			the dominant view in our society: As long as what I do doesn't harm you
2395			personally, I have a right to do it. It's a silly view and a view rejected
2396			by law enforcement policies all over the country."
2397	root	1.378	--
2398			"What we really need is less government and more common sense. The Bush
2399			administration thinks it can win the war in iraq, the war on terror, the
2400			war on drugs, and the war on smut while establishing a lunar colony and
2401			rebuilding New Orleans, all without raising taxes. He really needs a
2402			reality check. I can't believe that with all of this crap going on, Tom
2403			DeLay has the balls to claim that the republican party has eliminated
2404			wasteful government spending."
2405	root	1.387	%
2406	root	1.376	[Attaching 72lbs to spam-reply-envelopes is legal. Do it!]
2407			http://www.vertical-visions.com/_temp/postagepaid/index2.html
2408	root	1.387	%
2409	root	1.375	[Charley Tart on Consensus Trance: <SLAP> <SLAP> Wake up!]
2410			http://www.cantrip.org/charles_tart.html
2411	root	1.387	%
2412	root	1.375	["It's such a moving story, it must be true"]
2413			http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=246277
2414	root	1.387	%
2415	root	1.374	[Pencil Carving]
2416			http://www.infofreako.com/jad/enpitsu-e.html
2417	root	1.387	%
2418	root	1.374	[Copyright]
2419	root	1.373	http://www.bromsun.com/practice/copyrights/flowchart.html
2420	root	1.387	%
2421	root	1.372	[Die Wirtschaft befreit die Menschen von der Arbeit]
2422			http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/stz/page/detail.php/949236
2423	root	1.387	%
2424	root	1.432	23:10 <mmead> schmorp: A federal appeals court ruled today that the president can indefinitely detain a U.S. citizen
2425			captured on U.S. soil in the absence of criminal charges, holding that such authority is vital to protect the
2426	root	1.371	nation from terrorist attacks.
2427	root	1.432	23:10 <mmead> A congressional resolution after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks "provided the President all powers
2428			necessary and appropriate to protect American citizens from terrorist attacks by those who attacked the United
2429	root	1.371	States on Sept. 11,'' the decision said.
2430	root	1.432	23:10 <mmead> The decision by a three-judge panel was written by Judge J. Michael Luttig, who sources have said is under
2431			consideration by President Bush for nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court.
2432	root	1.387	%
2433	root	1.370	[Looks extreme]
2434			http://www.counterpunch.org/
2435	root	1.387	%
2436	root	1.369	[Some glimpse of what happened in New Orleans]
2437			"As we approached the bridge, armed Gretna sheriffs formed a line across the
2438			foot of the bridge. Before we were close enough to speak, they began firing
2439			their weapons over our heads."
2440			http://www.livejournal.com/users/malbec/1052572.html
2441	root	1.387	%
2442	root	1.368	[Global Average Temperature vs. Number of Pirates]
2443			http://www.sheise.de/files/PirateGraph.jpg
2444	root	1.387	%
2445	root	1.367	[http://www.fefe.de/nowindows/]
2446			Many people using Windows don't care about their freedom. They do care
2447			about quality software and for that reason try to replace all the user
2448			space software from Microsoft with better free alternatives. This is the
2449			sole reason for the existance of cygwin.
2450	root	1.387	%
2451	root	1.366	[http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/trusted_computing/20031001_tc.php]
2452	root	1.387	%
2453	root	1.366	The TCG has resisted defining "owner" for purposes of their spec, despite
2454			several requests for clarification.
2455
2456			Think of it this way: most computer-related "stuff" now has a "licensed,
2457			not sold" tag attached. Ask yourself again, then, who has ultimate control
2458			unter TCG definitions.
2459	root	1.387	%
2460	root	1.366	But rememer they aren't doing anything wrong and they aren't trying to
2461			force anything on you. It is all opt-in and you always get to set the
2462			policy on your computer. It's just that nothing works any more unless you
2463			do opt-in and you do set your policy exactly they way they tell you to.
2464	root	1.387	%
2465	root	1.366	It's not coercion. It's for security. It helps the economy. It thwarts
2466			terrorists. TPM gives flags to orphans if that's what it needs to do to
2467			get people on board.
2468			%
2469	root	1.365	To have a secure computer, you must download the latest
2470			patches. Therefore, you must upgrade to SP4, and therefore, you must
2471			accept the EULA that requires you to agree with Microsoft's proprietary
2472			DRM.
2473
2474			The end is near. Security patches will soon require your body to be
2475			injected with RFID. Surely, we are all doomed.
2476	root	1.387	%
2477	root	1.364	[http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/09/01/1419222.shtml?tid=172&tid=109]
2478			switch ($decade) {
2479			case "the 50's":
2480			s/the Boogyman/Communist agitators/g;
2481			break;
2482			case "the 60's":
2483			s/the Boogyman/acid-eating hippies/g;
2484			break;
2485			case "the 70's":
2486			s/the Boogyman/disco/g;
2487			break;
2488			case "the 80's":
2489			s/the Boogyman/mutual assured destruction (and Grenada!)/g;
2490			break;
2491			case "the 90's":
2492			s/the Boogyman/evil hackers and George Michael/g;
2493			break;
2494			case "the 00's":
2495			s/the Boogyman/terrorists/g;
2496			break;
2497			}
2498	root	1.387	%
2499	root	1.363	http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2005/08/curiosities-from-japans-porno-shops.html
2500
2501			"How fucking creepy is that? As you can see from the flyer included
2502			in the capsule (note the kiddie crayon font), the other toys in the
2503			assortment include little girls spreading their legs, little girls sucking
2504			suggestively on popsicles, and little girls dry-humping their teddy bears"
2505
2506			"Interestingly enough, none of the cans were very long - maybe six inches
2507			at the most. I was trying to avoid the whole Asian-men-have-small-penises
2508			thing, but they kind of handed it to me on a silver platter."
2509
2510			""Maybe I should just try it. Just see what it feels like..." I mean,
2511			why not, right? You know. Just for kicks, right? So you know what? I
2512			fucked it. Yeah. I fucked a plastic beer can. I fucked the shit out of
2513			that can. And you know what? It felt alright. It did the trick. That
2514			is, until it was all over. Until the moment after, when I was hit by a
2515			sobering freight train of humility, looking down at my dick stuck inside a
2516			latex vagina housed in a plastic beer can. Moments like that you start to
2517			question everything - "How the hell did it come to this? Who am I? What am
2518			I doing with my life?" I probably sat there for an hour, silently with my
2519			plastic lover, pondering my existence."
2520	root	1.387	%
2521	root	1.362	"The scholars of Islam, such as Malik, Ash-Shafi`i, Ahmad and Ishaaq said
2522			that (the person guilty of this crime) should be stoned, whether he is
2523			married or unmarried."
2524
2525			http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547102
2526			http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/02/Article01-0.shtml
2527			http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/07/Article02.shtml
2528			http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545556
2529			http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543324
2530	root	1.387	%
2531	root	1.362	http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503546996
2532
2533			[I like this comparison between of and watching television:]
2534			Your brother is not at all different from those who have been conditioned
2535			to fornicate, or commit theft or murder, or who have become addicted to
2536			watching pornography or even television for that matter. All of these
2537			are destructive habits that one learns through continuous exposure or
2538			conditioning.
2539
2540			[And this is religion at its best:]
2541			Let him continuously read, reflect and meditate on the verses of the
2542			Qur'an that deal with the punishment meted to the nation who practiced
2543			this abomination; let him also read the verses depicting hell fire.
2544	root	1.387	%
2545	root	1.361	[Racism]
2546			http://www.flickr.com/photos/firewall/38725768/
2547	root	1.387	%
2548	root	1.360	[A link, just a link]
2549			http://www.oilcrisis.com/
2550	root	1.387	%
2551	root	1.359	As you may have noticed, the HOWTO is getting stale, you can't subscribe to
2552			the mailinglist and a lot of messages sent to it aren't getting through.
2553
2554			I apologise for this.
2555
2556			If all goes well I'll get my driver's license this Tuesday, which will allow
2557			me to visit the server, which I can't easily reach right now.
2558	root	1.387	%
2559	root	1.358	PSYC @> el says: von java bekommt man krebs
2560			induktiv says: java is ein riesiger marketing misthaufen voll mit code von uebereifrigen fh-programmierern
2561			el says: ich kenn da wen
2562			el says: bei dem wars so
2563			[...]
2564			PSYC @> el says: und.. naja, der hat also ganz viel java programmiert
2565			el says: und bekam augenkrebs
2566			el says: gehirntumor auch
2567			el says: ich weiss nicht, was vorher da war
2568	root	1.387	%
2569	root	1.357	wget http://el.l.tobij.de/ratz.jpg && xsetbg ratz.jpg
2570	root	1.387	%
2571	root	1.356	[in a reply to a school work assignment about proving why env vars make
2572			no sense in the kernel]
2573			From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
2574
2575			[...]
2576
2577			Mathematical proofs are accomplished within a framework of mathematical
2578			models.
2579
2580			In the postmodern time period and we gave up belief that the mathematical
2581			models are an accurate representation of reality. We only expect that
2582			they are sufficiently accurate for the purposes at hand.
2583	root	1.387	%
2584	root	1.354	[such nice quotes from http://theinquirer.net/?article=24638]
2585			There will be EF devices, EF branded content and probably EF branded
2586			contraceptives to use while watching EF branded porn.
2587			--
2588			Any DRM on a machine is simply a sign of failure.
2589	root	1.355	--
2590			This crushing DRM that is being foisted upon you is the surest sign that
2591			you don't want this product, and you will be paying too much for it. Don't
2592			like that? Bought legislators are hard at work making sure you will go to
2593			jail if you try to exercise your rights on the issue.
2594	root	1.387	%
2595	root	1.353	An absolutely fascinating interview with Robert Pape, a University of
2596			Chicago professor who has studied every suicide terrorist attack since
2597			1980. "The central fact is that overwhelmingly suicide-terrorist
2598			attacks are not driven by religion as much as they are by a clear
2599			strategic objective: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military
2600			forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland."
2601			<http://www.amconmag.com/2005_07_18/article.html>
2602			[From: CRYPTO-GRAM 2005-08-15]
2603	root	1.387	%
2604	root	1.352	[If you are a US citizen, you might want to fight for the right to vote,
2605			which you currently do not posess]
2606			http://reclaimdemocracy.org/political_reform/right_to_vote.html
2607	root	1.387	%
2608	root	1.388	Kind: "Daad! Die alten Griechen mußten 44 Arten der Selbstverteidigung lernen, ohne Waffen!"
2609			Vater: "Dafür haben wir eine zweistufige elektrische Heckenschere."
2610	root	1.351	[Nach: Time Bandits]
2611	root	1.387	%
2612	root	1.350	http://www.cpmission.com/main/painpolitics/mdjackson.html
2613	root	1.387	%
2614	root	1.349	Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off
2615			a horse.." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse.."
2616	root	1.387	%
2617	root	1.432	Tcl is LISP on drugs. Using strings instead of S-expressions for closures
2618			is Evil with one of those gigantic E's you can find at the beginning of
2619			paragraphs.
2620	root	1.387	%
2621	root	1.347	[the average IQ seems to be declining]
2622			http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000953.html
2623			http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/
2624	root	1.387	%
2625	root	1.346	[http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/07/31/0626257.shtml?tid=153&tid=98&tid=95&tid=103&tid=219]
2626			> If you know anything, most catholics register as democrats
2627
2628			Most catholics aren't American.
2629	root	1.387	%
2630	root	1.345	[Some things possibly cannot exist...]
2631
2632			[http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/depleted-uranium.html]
2633			In NEWS1920, we demonstrated how America's widespread usage of Depleted
2634			Uranium munitions is fulfilling the prophetic End of the Age prophecy
2635			against Babylon (Iraq). Now, we examine how our D.U. is quite possibly
2636			fulfilling another major prophecy: Revelation 6:3-4
2637
2638			[http://cuttingedge.org/detail.cfm?ID=939]
2639			How Mormon Temples Are Built To Be Demon Magnets
2640	root	1.387	%
2641	root	1.344	[http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/23/egypt.explosions/index.html]
2642			Asked whether he thought the blasts might be related to Islam, he
2643			replied, "What Islam? This terrorism has nothing to do with any religion,
2644			because all religions do not allow aggression and do not allow killing
2645			civilians in innocence. Those don't belong to Muslims. They are a gang of
2646			criminals."
2647	root	1.387	%
2648	root	1.343	The Black Hole in the Galactic Center
2649			[http://www.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de/staff/hfalcke/bh/sld1.html]
2650	root	1.387	%
2651	root	1.342	To me anything above 30 fps is good and 45-50 is amazing... 75 is more
2652			than I've seen lol. Then again I come from a mac
2653	root	1.387	%
2654	root	1.341	[There are things the US congress can do that were far beyond my imagination]
2655			http://reason.com/rauch/99_08_07.shtml
2656	root	1.387	%
2657	root	1.340	The MSI MS-9130 (K8T Master2-FAR) is an excellent board. The only problem
2658			I had was with my video card shorting out and frying both the board and
2659			card (They went up in flames).
2660	root	1.387	%
2661	root	1.432	05:46 <mmead> AP and UPI reported that the French government announced yesterday that
2662			it has raised its terror alert level from "run" to "hide." The only two
2663			higher levels in France are "surrender" and "collaborate." The action
2664			was precipitated by the recent fire which destroyed one of France's
2665	root	1.338	white flag factories, disabling their military.
2666	root	1.432	05:47 <mmead> it's obviously been recirculated recently:
2667	root	1.339	http://www.edthibodeau.com/nonplussed/2004/10/french_terror_a.html
2668	root	1.387	%
2669	root	1.337	[The following quote from a NASA press release shows impressively how much
2670			we know. And more importantly, how to build up scientific knowledge part
2671			by part. "Knowledge" always has a margin-of-error inherently attached to it.]
2672
2673			"The cloud indicated the comet is covered in the powdery stuff."
2674
2675			[http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/text/di_pr_20050708.txt]
2676	root	1.387	%
2677	root	1.336	[http://www.skippy.net/blog/2005/06/09/security-through-stupidity/]
2678			Silly questions abound, all to cover people's butts. When I moved to
2679			the US in 1992 (from Canada), one of the questions on my green card
2680			application was "Do you, or any member of your immediate family, plan to
2681			violently overthrow the government of the United States or assasinate any
2682			elected official?" Not only did they have checkboxes for "yes" and "no",
2683			but they had a blank space labelled, "If you checked 'yes', please provide
2684			a detailed explanation in the space below." I never figured out what kind
2685			of explanation would make them give you a green card anyway.
2686			--
2687			Hasbro should ask the same. Teddy Ruxpin chips were found on a number
2688			of landmines during the first gulf war... First, we just thought these
2689			people REALLY hate Teddy Ruxpin, maybe we're not so different after all...
2690			but on further investigation, Ruxpin had easily-programmable EEPROMs, so
2691			the Ruxpin chip was actually being repurposed as a controller for the
2692			explosives. They were jackin' overseas deliveries to get the Ruxpins.
2693	root	1.387	%
2694	root	1.335	http://graphics.stanford.edu/~danielrh/vote/vote.html
2695			The Obfuscated V contest
2696	root	1.387	%
2697	root	1.335	Airplane security is getting surreal: "...FAA regulation that requires
2698			soldiers -- all of whom were armed with an arsenal of assault rifles,
2699			shotguns and pistols -- to surrender pocket knives, nose hair scissors and
2700			cigarette lighters."
2701			http://tinyurl.com/7z8my
2702	root	1.387	%
2703	root	1.334	<http://babygimp.sourceforge.net/>
2704			Does it run under Windows ?
2705			- Who cares?
2706	root	1.387	%
2707	root	1.333	[Can hot water freeze faster than cold water?]
2708	root	1.332	http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html
2709	root	1.387	%
2710	root	1.331	http://www.physik3.gwdg.de/~rgeisle/nld/sbsl-howto.html
2711			Single Bubble Sonoluminescence HOWTO
2712			[...]
2713			Don't bother me with "my bottle exploded, what was wrong?"-stuff; While the bottle is heated it mustn't be closed!
2714			[...]
2715			Darken your room completely. Adapt your eyes, which may take 15 minutes up
2716			to half an hour. Look at the flask or at least where you think your flask
2717			is (remember: the room is completely darkened).
2718	root	1.387	%
2719	root	1.329	[de.alt.ufo]
2720	root	1.432	> Ja, stimmt - ich hatte mich früher viel mit Leuten beschäftigt, die
2721			> wahrscheinlich entführt wurden, oder bei denen es den Anschein hatte. Im
2722			> Moment beschäftige ich mich mit der Konstruktion eines kleinen UFO-
2723	root	1.388	> Detektors, der die UFO- Ereignisse auch zählt.-
2724	root	1.330	> www.ufo-finder.de
2725	root	1.432	> Aber Feld-Forscher bin ich deshalb noch nicht. Das geht gesundheitlich nicht
2726	root	1.330	> mehr!
2727			> richy.
2728
2729			Und es gibt wirklich Deppen, die sich von dir abzocken lassen??
2730	root	1.387	%
2731	root	1.330	[de.alt.ufo]
2732	root	1.329	> Wie kann ich online etwas belegen, das sich in der Vergangenheit
2733			> zugetragen hat?
2734
2735			Das solltest Du Dich selbst mal fragen. Wenn Du es nicht belegen kannst,
2736			warum behauptest Du es dann?
2737	root	1.388	[später]
2738			> Ach, wenn es interessant wird, umfängt Dich Faulheit?
2739	root	1.329
2740			Bei dir ist das angemessen, du hast deinen Ruf weg.
2741			Du plapperst immer nur von Belegen, verlangst letzten Endes
2742			naturwissenschaftliche/physikalische Beweise (genaugenommen:
2743			ein Alien-craft zum Vorfuehren), darunter akzeptierst du nichts,
2744			aber das stellt sich erst nach ellenlangen threads heraus.
2745
2746			Aber das ist bekannt, und eigentlich belanglos.
2747
2748			Wer sich auf Debatten mit dir einlaesst und Argumente erwartet
2749			von jemand, der die Wissenschaft zur Ersatzreligion verquast,
2750			ist eigentlich selbst schuld.
2751	root	1.387	%
2752	root	1.388	[de.alt.ufo, über einen www.rtl.de-news-Artikel]
2753	root	1.328	Wie die Skepsos so schoen sagen: der Verfasser von dem Quark war so offen,
2754			dem ist das Gehirn rausgefallen.
2755	root	1.387	%
2756	root	1.327	[res_nsend.c]
2757			/* give the hook another try */
2758			if (++loops < 42) /doug adams/
2759			break;
2760	root	1.387	%
2761	root	1.326	[sr_port/mdq.h]
2762	root	1.432	/* Insert a doubly-linked list of elements from "n->q.fl" to "n->q.bl"
2763	root	1.326	in between "o" and "o->q.fl" */
2764			#define dqadd(o,n,q) ((o)->q.fl->q.bl=(n)->q.bl,(n)->q.bl->q.fl=(o)->q.fl,(o)->q.fl=(n)->q.fl,(n)->q.fl->q.bl=(o))
2765	root	1.387	%
2766	root	1.325	Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
2767	root	1.387	%
2768	root	1.324	* Andreas Waechter <mail@andreas-waechter.de> [06-25-05 00:58]:
2769	root	1.432	> No, Thunderbird should not "reply" to the list with the
2770	root	1.324	> current settings of the list.
2771	root	1.432	>
2772			> There is no "Reply-To" header, thus a "Reply" has to go to
2773			> the address in the "From" header - which is the address of
2774	root	1.324	> the original sender, not the list.
2775	root	1.432	>
2776			> The List address is in the "To" field. Thus only a "Reply
2777			> All" will go to the list as CC (and to the original sender
2778	root	1.324	> as TO).
2779	root	1.432	>
2780	root	1.324	> Don't blame my mail client for the set-up of the list.
2781
2782			Your mail client is not being blamed. It is your
2783			responsibility. No one disputes your choice of mail client, but it
2784			is your responsibility to see that your posts are properly
2785			addressed to the list, not the list's software or the people you are
2786			being discourteous to.
2787
2788			The fault is all yours. It is/was your choice.
2789			--
2790			Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535
2791	root	1.387	%
2792	root	1.323	[http://www.heise.de/ct/00/20/104/]
2793	root	1.388	"Sie können mit falschen Tatsachen Leute überzeugen, das ist nun mal so."
2794	root	1.387	%
2795	root	1.322	An appeals court in Minnesota has ruled that the presence of encryption
2796			software [PGP] on a computer may be viewed as evidence of criminal intent.
2797			http://www.granick.com/archive/2005_05_01_theshout_archive.html#1117581
2798			http://news.com.com/Minnesota+court+takes+dim+view+of+encryption/2100-1030_3-5718978.html
2799			http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/archive/ctappub/0505/opa040381-0503.htm
2800	root	1.387	%
2801	root	1.322	[http://www.komotv.com/stories/37150.htm]
2802			"They said 'no' and they said it's a national security issue. And I said
2803			what about my constitutional rights? And they said 'not at this point ...
2804			you don't have any'."
2805	root	1.323
2806			[I also am very fond of this quote:]
2807			"My concern is that if that's the way they're treating American citizens I
2808			would hate to think how they're treating other people. It's crazy."
2809			[Don't they have _any_ ethics?? What about equality? Ah well, I forgot...]
2810	root	1.387	%
2811	root	1.321	[http://wiki.ffii.org/CampIcecream050601En]
2812			Yes its true! If you go down to Place du Luxembourg from now until
2813			3pm, you can collect your free icecream and support the Computer
2814			Implemented Inventions Common Position!
2815	root	1.387	%
2816	root	1.319	[http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation/algorithm/upconversion/index.htm]
2817			The change from Blitz to standard arrays had little effect on the
2818			execution time so I stuck with the standard type. The standard arrays
2819			should be more acceptable to developers who want to modify the code.
2820			Insisting that the developer use a certain array container for no good
2821			reason will not win many fans.
2822
2823			[http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation.html has other nice
2824			documents in the algorithm section]
2825	root	1.387	%
2826	root	1.318	["Blue in the Face"]
2827			Ich kriege in New York keine Angst, nein... aber in Schweden...da isses
2828			irgendwie so leer und da sind alle betrunken... und alles funktioniert...
2829			und, naja, wnen du an einer roten Ampel den motor nicht abstellst, reden
2830			die leute mit dir.... die zeigen da im fernsehen ohrenoperationen...
2831
2832			Solche dinge machen mir Angst... nicht New York.
2833	root	1.387	%
2834	root	1.317	And before I forget it, readers fascinated by the idea of Central
2835			Europeans using A6 as a toilet paper size might also be interested to hear
2836			that the U.S. have for the same application field a standard square format
2837	root	1.388	of 4.5×4.5 in = 114×114 mm, which is for instance documented in New Jersey
2838	root	1.317	Specification No. 7572-01 (May 1997), section 2.3.
2839			[http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html]
2840	root	1.387	%
2841	root	1.316	[Better know what they actually do...]
2842	root	1.388	[Technische Richtlinie / Telekommunikationsüberwachung]
2843	root	1.316	http://www.regtp.de/imperia/md/content/tech_reg_t/ueberwachu/TR_TKUE_Ausgabe_4.1_29-11-2004.pdf
2844	root	1.315	[RFC3924 Cisco Architecture for Lawful Intercept in IP Networks]
2845			ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3924.txt
2846	root	1.387	%
2847	root	1.314	[rfc4096]
2848			The FTC called a summit of leading thinkers, and the regulation was
2849			amended to read "but don't use languages that go from right to left
2850			or up and down instead of plain old left to right." Needless to say,
2851			the reaction from the Freedonian League for the Defense of Linguistic
2852			Diversity killed that proposed regulation really quickly.
2853	root	1.387	%
2854	root	1.313	[just a really nice md5sum]
2855			99421268df476006401f11f96b655248
2856	root	1.387	%
2857	root	1.312	[a comment in some g729 sample implementation]
2858	root	1.432	* For G.729(,A,B) royalty payments, see http://www.sipro.com
2859	root	1.312	* WARNING: please make sure you are sitting down before looking
2860			* at their price list.
2861	root	1.387	%
2862	root	1.311	[http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=139347&cid=11665921]
2863			You'd think I was overgeneralizing, but I'm not. Absolutely every single
2864			time I see HN in use, I quickly end up learning that the programmer who
2865			wrote the code was an idiot. On at least two separate occasions, I've
2866			had to correct C code with HN that did not allocate space for the null
2867			terminator on any strings anywhere in the code. That's pretty much the
2868			level of programming talent you can expect when you see HN in use.
2869	root	1.387	%
2870	root	1.309	21:22 <mmead> tiger's SMB support is fucking broken
2871			21:26 <oesi> mmead: when you grow up, you will substitute "'s SMB support" by "" :)
2872	root	1.387	%
2873	root	1.308	03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> ich dachte immer alle beinhaltet mehr als 1
2874			03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> aba naja
2875			03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <oesi> nein, viele beinhaltet mehr als 1
2876			03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <bani_> stimmt auch wieder
2877	root	1.387	%
2878	root	1.319	[ein so gut geschriebenes dokument erwartet man eigentlich nicht mal vom BSI]
2879	root	1.307	http://www.bsi.bund.de/literat/studien/antispam/antispam.pdf
2880	root	1.387	%
2881	root	1.306	[some SPAM]
2882			Freie Geschlechtabbildungen und -filme. Und Phasennetznocken
2883	root	1.387	%
2884	root	1.305	cowsay -f head-in oink \| cowthink -n -f sodomized
2885	root	1.387	%
2886	root	1.304	[star wars episode guide]
2887			1 =Epichode 1: The Phantom Grimace
2888			2 =Epichode 2: Attack of the Groans
2889			3 =Epichode 3: Revenge of the Shit
2890			4 = Episode 4: A New Hope
2891			5 = Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back(By far the best Star Wars film. One of the finest movies ever made.)
2892			6 = Episode 6: Return of the Jedi(would have been a thousand times cooler if the ewoks had been Wookies).
2893			[http://www.beggingtodiffer.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=pp;action=display;num=1113843411]
2894	root	1.387	%
2895	root	1.300	[God knows his enemies]
2896			http://sheise.de/files/GODvsBUSH.gif
2897	root	1.302	[Uh-oh, "se germans are next"]
2898	root	1.303	http://sheise.de/files/cnn_iraq.jpg [a fake, but nevertheless]
2899	root	1.387	%
2900	root	1.299	http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054743/
2901	root	1.301	[Why is it that every good Hollywood movie is at least 30+ years old?]
2902	root	1.387	%
2903	root	1.298	[http://www.bildblog.de/]
2904	root	1.388	Die "Bild"-Zeitung schreibt Blödsinn, und alle schreiben's ab. Die
2905			rührende Geschichte von den "Unfallforschern", die angeblich "ermittelt"
2906			hätten, was doch nur eine schlichte Umrechnung von Stundenkilometern in
2907	root	1.298	Meter pro Sekunde ist, zieht Kreise.
2908
2909			Nachrichtenagentur ddp, 3. Mai, 03:16 Uhr:
2910
2911			Laut "Bild" ermittelten Unfallforscher, dass ein Auto bei einer
2912			Geschwindigkeit von 50 Kilometern pro Stunde etwa 14 Meter pro Sekunde
2913	root	1.388	ungebremst weiterfährt, während der Fahrer nach einer fallengelassenen
2914	root	1.298	Zigarette sucht.
2915
2916			Nachrichtenagentur AFP, 3. Mai, 04:25 Uhr:
2917
2918			[usw.]
2919
2920			Bei "Stern Online" ist aus den "Unfallforschern" schon eine ganze "Studie"
2921	root	1.388	geworden, die plötzlich zu Ergebnissen kommt, die nur scheinbar mit den
2922	root	1.298	bekannten "Ermittlungen" identisch sind:
2923
2924			Nach Auffassung des SPD-Verkehrsexperten Peter Danckert kann eine
2925			brennende Zigarette den Fahrer jedoch ebenso wie ein klingelndes
2926			Telefon ablenken. Er verwies auf eine Studie, nach der ein 50
2927			Stundenkilometer schnelles Auto mindestens 14 Meter weiterrolle, wenn
2928			der Fahrer nach einer Zigarette sucht.
2929	root	1.387	%
2930	root	1.388	[schlimmer als de.alt.ufo, schlimmer als jede Verarschung sein könnte...]
2931	root	1.297	http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2005/01/22/sonne__boese/sonne__boese.html
2932			http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2004/12/28/seebeben/zerreisst__unsere__erde.html
2933	root	1.387	%
2934	root	1.296	[http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=147629&cid=12370229]
2935			Which fanboy are you?
2936
2937			1. Windows
2938
2939			You wear wraparound sunglasses, even indoors. You wish your mother
2940			would let you ride a motorbike. You tell your friends you're pulling
2941			in $50,000 a year and $2,000 a month "playing the stock market" but
2942			in reality you're only bringing in half that and your dividends from
2943			MSFT havn't been good in years. Your non computing friends all turn
2944			to you for help; you only charge $30 an hour. Your collegues talk
2945			about you behind your back. Your workplace nickname is likely to be
2946			"The Asshole". Unlike the Linux fanboys, you actually try to pick up
2947			dates in bars but women laugh at you.
2948
2949			2. Apple
2950
2951			You think you're so cool you hurt. You have mirrors on every wall
2952			in your "loft apartment", which is really a grimy little apartment
2953			next to a guy who plays Guns 'n Roses at 3am. All of your furniture
2954			is from Ikea. You sometimes think that changing your name to "Steve"
2955			would be "pretty cool". When you go to bars you only drink Miller
2956			Lite. No body ever asks you for help with their computers because
2957			they know you don't know anything but OS X, even if you do tell them
2958			you "run Unix" now. Your friends openly laugh at you.
2959
2960			3. Linspire
2961
2962			You regularly give $10 bills to homeless guys because you have
2963			too much money. Computers baffle you, but you enjoy looking at
2964			pictures of naked women. You don't know what Linux is, but you
2965			continually bugged the IT guy at work about your computer so he
2966			installed Linspire on your machine.
2967
2968			4. Umbongo
2969
2970			You shop at GAP. You probably used to use a Mac. When you saw the
2971			multiracial image used as a desktop picture and heard that this
2972			operating system came from the same country as Nelson Mandela, you
2973			knew it was for you. You meet with your friends in fair-trade coffee
2974			houses and talk about the eventual overthrow of evil corporations
2975			such as Microsoft and Starbucks. Like the Linspire user, you have
2976			very little real knowlege when it comes to computers but you would
2977			never use your computer to look at pictures of women degrading
2978			themselves.
2979
2980			5. Gentoy
2981
2982			You've been "into computers" for ohh, one or two years now and fancy
2983			yourself as "a bit of a hacker". Wouldn't know C from C++, or even
2984			Perl for that matter. Older Gentoy users may be building their homes
2985			from matchsticks. You've explained to all your friends that your
2986			matchstick house will have an "optimised floorplan". They've tried
2987			to tell you that your house violates every known building code and
2988			law in your area, but you've ignored them so far because you can't
2989			read those complicated regulatory documents.
2990
2991			6. Linux From Scratch
2992
2993			Much like the Gentoy user but you'd also be into sadomasochistic
2994			sex if you could get it. You're not just building a house from
2995			matchsticks, you're planing to grow the trees to make the
2996			matchsticks. You've cleared some land but don't know what to do next
2997			because you havn't read the books you've got, so you've posted to
2998			alt.arborists.newbie asking for help. It's been three days so far
2999			and no one has replied. You remain hopeful.
3000	root	1.387	%
3001	root	1.295	[/usr/bin/cowsay]
3002			if (($^O eq "MSWin32") or ($^O eq "Windows_NT")) { ## Many perls, eek!
3003	root	1.387	%
3004	root	1.294	[A few days after the 6.0.9 release announcement]
3005
3006			In the spirit of release early, release often.... Err no, actually more
3007			in the spirit of, let's not try to lose data during file resolution...
3008
3009			Coda 6.0.10 is out
3010	root	1.387	%
3011	root	1.293	<opine@orifice2.com> wrote:
3012
3013			> > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:55:28 -0800, CrabRangoon wrote
3014	root	1.432	>
3015	root	1.388	> > Meine Großmutter hat einen kleinen Hinterhof und sie benutzt selten die
3016	root	1.293	> > Dusche. Bei vielen Gelegenheiten habe ich mehr als 4
3017	root	1.388	> > Lebensmittelgeschäftspeicher-Versorgungsmaterialien Sellerie an einem
3018			> > einzelnen Tag verbraucht. Würde es irgendein Benzin unter meiner Couch
3019			> > geben, wenn ich meine Hose bügelte?
3020	root	1.432	>
3021			> What does your granny's tiny ass have to do with this group? Other than the
3022	root	1.293	> smell attracting flies of course...
3023	root	1.432	>
3024	root	1.293	I figured a little non-native tongued nonsense would help keep this
3025			request near the top of the group. thanks for playing along.
3026	root	1.388	cheers and Haben Sie eine glückliche Karotte
3027	root	1.387	%
3028	root	1.432	00:24 <elmex> ich bin ja nur ein dummer niedersachse, der kaum was in der schule hatte
3029	root	1.387	%
3030	root	1.291	War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. -Ambrose Bierce
3031	root	1.387	%
3032	root	1.290	98% of the time I am right. Why worry about the other 3%.
3033	root	1.387	%
3034	root	1.289	[Bertram van Munster, Jerry Bruckheimers partner, interviewed in the BBC
3035			show "Correspondent"]
3036	root	1.288
3037			[...] I do reality television, and I've done this for many many many
3038			years, long before even anybody knew what reality was.
3039
3040			[so know we know who creates reality now]
3041			%
3042	root	1.287	[from wordnet]
3043			cock sucking, blowjob
3044			=> fellatio, fellation
3045			=> oral sex, head
3046			=> perversion, sexual perversion
3047			=> sexual activity, sexual practice, sex, sex activity
3048			=> bodily process, body process, bodily function, activity
3049			=> organic process, biological process
3050			=> process
3051			=> phenomenon
3052	root	1.387	%
3053	root	1.286	10:41 <oesi> [0]--(10:40:39)-(root@km)-(~/xxml)-> file tmon.out
3054			10:41 <oesi> tmon.out: ASCII Java program text
3055	root	1.387	%
3056	root	1.285	[SSK@J3GtFnEi8b~ko6mGvvXdrQoZ3D4PAgM,hhWspr43hLbvnrlkwxtDLg/ABC_NoJail/2//]
3057			[slightly edited]
3058			Largest prison population in the world is in the United States of America
3059			(in 2000: 2,071,686 persons, 22% of world prison population), it has more
3060			than double the prison population of Russia or China. What that means is
3061			that in USA 1 out of 143 residents are incarcerated.
3062
3063			About 88% of USA prison population is male, but female population is
3064			sharply on the rise, and might soon reach that of males, due mostly to new
3065			laws on terrorism and drugs.
3066
3067			Out of all the black males between 20 and 39, 12% are in custody (anybody
3068			told them about emancipation proclamation?).
3069	root	1.387	%
3070	root	1.284	"Begehe nur nicht den Fehler, Meinung durch Sachverstand zu substituieren."
3071			(PLemken, <bu6o7e$e6v0p$2@ID-31.news.uni-berlin.de>)
3072	root	1.387	%
3073	root	1.283	Mail::Box - 700MB of RSS to open a 30MB mail folder, one half of the
3074	root	1.282	advertised features doesn't work, while the other half is just buggy.
3075	root	1.387	%
3076	root	1.281	A ship is safe in harbor, but that is not what ships are built for.
3077	root	1.432	I learned that some cops lie. This was a brutal and profoundly disturbing
3078			realization: Those in control are not necessarily trustworthy.
3079	root	1.281	- Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
3080	root	1.387	%
3081	root	1.279	"parrot - from the people who brought you ithreads"
3082			- oesi
3083	root	1.387	%
3084	root	1.278	[US, Metric]
3085			http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/usmetric.html
3086	root	1.387	%
3087	root	1.432	[http://use.perl.org/~scrottie/journal]
3088	root	1.277	[I agree with that very much, most of his blog is really interesting]
3089	root	1.275	Sunday February 20, 2005 07:18 AM
3090			Minions Wanted [ 0 Comments \| #23269 ]
3091
3092			It's been about 10 years since I've had minions. They've all grown up,
3093			started painfully profitable companies, and now hob-knob whose-who of
3094			important and influential figures of their field. I'm growing old and
3095			increasinly mal-adapted to normal life. It's no longer becoming for me
3096			to leave my lair nor speak on the phone. I've reflected on making this
3097			post, and I've reflected at great length. Minions aren't what they used
3098			to be. Minions now days are soft and weak willed. In the old days, it was
3099			that minions would realize they can wield power if they're willing to
3100			spend a time subserviant to someone capable of teaching. Now days, kids
3101			have this notion that money only comes from the parents, power comes from
3102			your social (gag) circles, and glory comes from the things you own. They
3103			seek answers to Perl questions only for immediate gradification, not to
3104			truly master an insidious tactic and become a potent force. Kids now
3105			days, not nearly robust enough to be considered minion material. They,for
3106			their entire life, questioninglessly slide into being slaves of much
3107			more powerful overlords. They accept as payment for their servatude a
3108			few measily tens of thousands of dollars, and then only paid in payments
3109			yearly, calling that close enough to world domination, and inexchange
3110			for that paultry fee, deliver one after another innocent to the hands of
3111			Bill Gates, telling the clients they betray that Microsoft Windows is a
3112			servicable operating system and a supportable platform. While it is truly
3113			becoming to serve on the side of Microsoft, it is also well known the
3114			ranks are thin at the top but wide at the bottom, and few ever move past
3115			petty explotation of businesses and moronic home users.
3116
3117			This is not the stock I seek. These so short-sightedly driven by greed,
3118			rather than lusting for true power, amount to little more than orcs - a
3119			fodder of little use except as "consumers" in this modern age. It is far
3120			more becoming to hope to some day aspire to be an overlord of some small
3121			repute yourself and initially forego payment.
3122
3123			Minions in my service will be expected to endure maindane business-related
3124			tasks, such as answering the phone, but will always be allowed the
3125			basic dignity of being able to tell clients to "fuck off" when
3126			appropriate. Retaining dignity does not relieve the necessities of
3127			subordination, however. My minions may seek clarification but will never
3128			question me. For the term of their indenture, they will accept my teaching
3129			as truth itself. They will not seek short-cuts where I say there are none,
3130			and if I later reveal short-cuts, they will know it was because they were
3131			not yet ready before. While my young troglodytes will doubtless enterain
3132			perversion and drug abuse in their free time, they will go for the want of
3133			the very necessities of life should urgant cause arise.
3134
3135			In exchange, they will be tutored on the basic elements of evil and Perl
3136			programming and will share in the spoils of an insideous plot I've hatched
3137			some time ago to dupe large numbers of people out of money by playing on
3138			their greed and fear. Of course, in the interest of avoiding indictment
3139			myself, the details of the plot can never be revealed, but a clever
3140			student will quickly ascertain the nature of the ploy. After thier period
3141			of endenture, minions will have developed an eye for exploitation and
3142			trickery, but most importantly will have developed a deeper understanding
3143			of how things work - both in Perl and in the real world. They will see
3144			everything about them as quite potentially theirs - no program must go
3145			unwritten, and persuent to Free Trade Agreements, they will be as a
3146			sovereign nation.
3147
3148			While the offer is valid, this is a draft for a post on
3149			jobs.perl.org. Feedback is welcome - unless you're stupid, then stay the
3150			hell off my blog. Time and time again I forget both the power of TV to
3151			sap intelligence and the very prevelence of the thing. So let this be a
3152			test: if you watch more than half an hour a day of any programming besides
3153			CSPAN, don't post here.
3154
3155			-scott
3156	root	1.387	%
3157	root	1.274	But Mike Loughlin, who studied the boiling of lobsters when he was a
3158			University of Maine graduate student, said lobsters simply lack the brain
3159			capacity to feel pain.
3160
3161			"It's a semantic thing: No brain, no pain," said Loughlin, who now works
3162			as a biologist at the Maine Atlantic Salmon Commission.
3163	root	1.387	%
3164	root	1.273	Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp contextual F1 help & Crimson Editor in Windows
3165			From: Sven Neumann
3166
3167			Hi,
3168
3169	root	1.388	Rubén de Diego Martínez writes:
3170	root	1.432	> I also think that it's a bug. How may I report-it?
3171	root	1.273
3172			Go to http://support.microsoft.com/support/feedback/ and tell them
3173			that
3174
3175			ShellExecute (HWND_DESKTOP, "open", uri, NULL, NULL, SW_SHOWNORMAL);
3176
3177			does not do what you would expect it to do.
3178	root	1.387	%
3179	root	1.271	http://www.syslog.com/~jwilson/pics-i-like/kurios119.jpg
3180	root	1.272	the original comment says:
3181			This is probably part of an elaborate IQ test.
3182			Waiting at the gate means you fail.
3183	root	1.387	%
3184	root	1.271	{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} ich mir eine kolaflasche reingeschioebn
3185			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und dann ist meine klitoris erissen
3186			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und ich musste ins krankenhaus
3187			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} oh sorry, falsches fenster
3188			{Flat eric:Net-Knuddels} aja
3189			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} hi :)
3190	root	1.387	%
3191	root	1.275	[Java, like Delphi, requires manual destruction. Obvious, but still
3192	root	1.270	interesting read]
3193			http://www.octopull.demon.co.uk/java/ImmortalityAtaPrice.html
3194	root	1.387	%
3195	root	1.269	[Obscure Algorithms, just for my reference]
3196			http://aggregate.org/MAGIC/
3197			http://www.hackersdelight.org/HDcode.htm
3198	root	1.387	%
3199	root	1.268	In Los Angeles, the "HOLLYWOOD" sign is protected by a fence and a locked
3200			gate. Because several different agencies need access to the sign for
3201			various purposes, the chain locking the gate is formed by several locks
3202			linked together. Each of the agencies has the key to its own lock, and not
3203			the key to any of the others. Of course, anyone who can open one of the
3204			locks can open the gate.
3205
3206			This is a nice example of a multiple-user access-control system. It's
3207			simple, and it works. You can also make it as complicated as you want,
3208			with different locks in parallel and in series.
3209	root	1.387	%
3210	root	1.267	http://www.crypto.com/papers/safelocks.pdf
3211			Safecracking for the computer scientist
3212	root	1.387	%
3213	root	1.265	Fact: Something that you observe to be true.
3214
3215			Fact #1: when you drop a hammer, it falls to the ground
3216
3217			Fact #2: a genetic sequence can change sufficiently to form a new
3218			species. Speciation has been observed more than once in the laboratory
3219			and in the wild, so this is a fact. Since we call this process
3220			'evolution', that means evolution is a fact. Keep reading for more
3221			explanation of this.
3222
3223			Theory: An explanation of an observation
3224
3225			Theory #1: The theory of gravity is understood as a curvature in space,
3226			which explains why the hammer falls.
3227
3228			Theory #2: The Theory of Evolution through Natural Selection explains
3229			how a population's genome can change over time.
3230
3231	root	1.266	Law: Not really related to any of the other definitions. It's just a
3232			mathematical relationship between two values.
3233	root	1.265
3234			Law #1: If you double the distance from a source of light, the
3235			brightness falls off proportionally to the square of the distance.
3236
3237			Law #2: (expressed as a formula) F=ma. Force equals mass times
3238			acceleration.
3239
3240			Please note that Evolution is a fact, and the theory is called the Theory
3241			of Evolution through Natural Selection. There are other theories of
3242			evolution, which have been disproved. A famous one is the theory of
3243			evolution through acquired characteristics, also known as Lamarkian
3244			evolution. It posited that species evolve by acquiring and retaining
3245			useful characteristics through use. Therefore, a giraffe would have
3246			longer necks if the previous generations stretched their necks to reach
3247			high leaves. This was the main theory that Darwin and others showed to be
3248			false.
3249
3250			[by Profane MuthaFucka (574406)]
3251	root	1.387	%
3252	root	1.388	[Aus: Psychologie heute, 10/2003, über einen Artikel von Rentfrow/Gosling,
3253	root	1.264	Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 6/2003]
3254
3255			Fans von reflexiven und komplexen Musikstilen wie Klassik, Blues, Jazz und
3256			Folk sind offen, tolerant und machen gerne neue Erfahrungen. Sie halten
3257	root	1.388	sich für intelligent - und sind es auch. Außerdem können sie gut mit
3258			Worten umgehen, schätzen das schöne. haben eine starke Vorstellungskraft
3259			und sind politisch liberal eingestellt. Sie sind häufig etwas unsportlich
3260	root	1.264	und wollen andere nicht dominieren.
3261
3262	root	1.388	Anhänger von intensiven und rebellischen Musikrichtungen wie Heavy Metal,
3263			Rock und alternativer Musik sind offen für Experimente. Sie halten sich
3264			außerdem für intelligent, eloquent und sportlich. Obwohl die Musik, die
3265			sie bevorzugen, vorwiegend negatives ausdrückt, scheint dies nicht auf
3266			sie abzufärben: Sie sind weder neurotischer noch unverträglicher als die
3267			Fans anderer Musikrichtungen. Darüber hinaus sind sie wissensdurstig,
3268			risikobereit und körperlich aktiv.
3269	root	1.264
3270			Beschwingt und konventionell. So bezeichnen Rentfrow und Gosling
3271	root	1.388	Popsongs und Schmusehits, Countrymusik, Filmmusik und religiöse Musik
3272			(Spirituals, Gospels, Kirchenlieder). Wer diese Musik gerne hört, ist ein
3273			umgänglicher Zeitgenosse: Er geht gern aus sich heraus, ist verträglich,
3274			fröhlich, zuverlässig, hilfsbereit und gewissenhaft. Seine Einstellungen
3275	root	1.264	sind eher konservativ, Beredesamkeit und Offenheit sind nicht seine
3276	root	1.388	Stärken. Dafür hält er sich aber für attraktiv und vor allem für
3277	root	1.264	sportlich.
3278
3279	root	1.388	Wer sich für energetische und rhythmische Musik begeistern kann (Rap,
3280			Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, Electronica) trägt sein Herz auf der Zunge. Er
3281			ist umgänglich, quirlig, liberal eingestellt, extravertiert und ein
3282			wenig eitel: Er hält sich für attraktiv und sportlich. Konservatives
3283			Gedankengut und Dominanz über andere liegen ihm hingegen fern.
3284	root	1.264
3285	root	1.388	Die besten verbalen Fähigkeiten haben die Angehörigen der ersten beiden
3286	root	1.264	Gruppen. Am wenigsten beredt ist die dritte Gruppe. An analytischem
3287	root	1.388	Verstand mangelt es vor allen den Musikhörern der vierten Gruppe.
3288			während die erste Gruppe, gefolgt von der zweiten, am meisten davon
3289	root	1.264	vorzuweisen hat.
3290
3291			"Die intelligenteste Gruppe bevorzugt die komplexeste Musik", sagen die
3292			Forscher.
3293	root	1.387	%
3294	root	1.263	[Very well-written article on the legal foundazion of licensing, and
3295			the extreme difference in what a free software license does vs. a
3296			EULA-style license]
3297	root	1.262	http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/cores/2005/01/001453
3298	root	1.387	%
3299	root	1.261	The Pirate Bay is a BitTorrent tracking site in Sweden with 150,000 users
3300			a day. In the fall, it posted a torrent for Shrek 2. Dreamworks sent a
3301			cease-and-desist letter demanding the site remove it. One of the site's
3302			pseudonymous owners, Anakata, replied: "As you may or may not be aware,
3303			Sweden is not a state in the United States of America. Sweden is a country
3304			in northern Europe [and] US law does not apply here. ... It is the opinion
3305			of us and our lawyers that you are fucking morons." Shrek 2 stayed up.
3306	root	1.387	%
3307	root	1.260	Java is, in many ways, C++--. (Michael Feldman)
3308	root	1.387	%
3309	root	1.259	[Happy New Year]
3310			23:42 -!- zaphod [jkneer@fatboy.laendle] has quit [Quit: Hochhaus]
3311			Day changed to 01 Jan 2005
3312			00:24 <schmorp> re
3313	root	1.387	%
3314	root	1.258	[http://www.calsky.com/lexikon/de/txt/f/fe/fehlschluss.php]
3315	root	1.388	Im besten Fall kann die Verknüpfung zweier Tatsachen Verdachtsmomente
3316			liefern, die mit wissenschaftlichen Methoden abgeklärt werden
3317	root	1.258	sollen. Was eine wissenschaftliche Methode ist, ist Gegenstand anderer
3318			wissenschaftlicher Untersuchungen.
3319	root	1.387	%
3320	root	1.257	[funny page(s), although I think it's sad that people trying to "debunk"
3321			bad science theories are prone to the same logical fallacies as the
3322			proponents of such theories.]
3323			http://www.xs4all.nl/~mke/Planet-X.htm
3324			"On the Internet, there's a picture circulating that's supposedly `secret
3325			evidence' from Russia, proving Planet X is an inhabited world. The makers
3326			took the original photo (top left), enlarged it, and upgraded it with
3327			`solarize' and `find edges'. And look... Suddenly, you see all kinds of
3328			spaceships orbiting the planet! (top right) I followed exactly the same
3329			procedure, using a photo of one Robert Bridson, math student at Stanford
3330			University (below, left). After enlarging and solarizing the photograph,
3331			it became clear that mr. Bridsons left ear actually is inhabited by
3332			intelligent beings, since there clearly is a spaceship taking off from it
3333			(below, right)."
3334	root	1.387	%
3335	root	1.256	[wonderful info...]
3336			http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/
3337			[useful info...]
3338			http://www.snopes.com/
3339	root	1.387	%
3340	root	1.253	Computer analyst to programmer:
3341			"You start coding. I'll go find out what they want."
3342	root	1.387	%
3343	root	1.252	[Fun!]
3344			http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
3345	root	1.387	%
3346	root	1.388	[Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 11/2004, über Informationstransport im All]
3347	root	1.251	"Wenn unsere Vettern im Kosmos wirklich intelligent sind, werden ihre
3348			Computer sicher nicht mit Microsoft-Betriebssystemen ausgestattet sein."
3349	root	1.387	%
3350	root	1.250	[in our continued series, "solaris source code", today, /bin/true]
3351			ddev5:~$ cat /bin/true
3352			#!/usr/bin/sh
3353			# Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
3354			# All Rights Reserved
3355
3356			# THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
3357			# The copyright notice above does not evidence any
3358			# actual or intended publication of such source code.
3359
3360			#ident "@(#)true.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.4 */
3361	root	1.432	ddev5:~$
3362	root	1.387	%
3363	root	1.249	22:07 <elmex> schmorp: naja, es beweist das das konzept von java nicht funktioniert
3364			22:07 <schmorp> elmex: welches konzept?
3365			22:07 <elmex> das "hack dir die beine ab, und lauf nen marathon"-konzept ;)
3366	root	1.387	%
3367	root	1.248	[Gtk2/Makefile.PL]
3368			# win32 does not allow unresolved symbols in libraries, but
3369			# Gtk2 uses on symbols in the dll created for Glib.
3370			# so, we have to break all this nice abstraction and encapsulation
3371			# and find the actual Glib.dll and Glib.lib installed by perl when
3372			# the Glib module was built, and add it to the list of lib files.
3373			#
3374			# say it with me: "i hate win32."
3375	root	1.387	%
3376	root	1.388	Immerhin meint die Filmförderungsanstalt, im Jahr 2002 seien 59
3377	root	1.247	Millionen CD-Rohlinge von 5,9 Millionen Nutzern mit Filmen bespielt
3378			worden, im Durchschnitt also zwo:lf Rohlinge pro Anwender.
3379			-- <http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/see-08.04.03-000/>
3380	root	1.387	%
3381	root	1.246	http://otierney.net/images/perl6.gif
3382	root	1.387	%
3383	root	1.245	[http://www.kinderschaender.de/begriff.htm]
3384	root	1.388	Das einzige, was die Seite wirklich gezeigt hat, ist, daß es kaum Menschen
3385			gibt, die weiter denken als ein Schwein scheißt.
3386	root	1.387	%
3387	root	1.244	http://www.paulgraham.com/fix.html
3388			[I'd say ALL the essays on http://www.paulgraham.com/articles.html
3389			are readable, and in most cases I wholeheartedly agree with them.]
3390	root	1.387	%
3391	root	1.243	http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/security_report_windows_vs_linux/
3392	root	1.387	%
3393	root	1.243	[From: CRYPTO-GRAM]
3394			Bill Gates points out that all those IE security holes have not been
3395			Microsoft's fault. (The first step towards recovery is recognizing
3396			that you have a problem.)
3397			<http://slashdot.org/articles/04/10/15/015239.shtml?tid=109&tid=1>
3398	root	1.387	%
3399	root	1.242	[top output on redhat9, with one real-time priority process]
3400			PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME CPU COMMAND
3401	root	1.247	25788 root 18446744073709551565 0 10076 9.8M 2816 S 0.9 1.9 0:01
3402	root	1.242	26064 root 21 0 1508 1508 1184 S 0.3 0.2 0:00 0 curl
3403
3404			[I am continually amazed at how redhat is able to break utilities that worked
3405			and work on other distributions without flaws again and again and again...]
3406	root	1.387	%
3407	root	1.241	That depends. There is C++ and there is C++. There are many different
3408			sorts of C++, I'll talk about 2 of them:
3409
3410			Category 1 code is 'C with classes and on-the-fly variable
3411			declarations'. It uses macros, bad encapsulation, no const-correctness,
3412			etc. Category 1 code tends to either use object oriented programing
3413			exclusively, or use it combined with procedural programming. Other
3414			programming paradigms are extremely rare. It often uses non-portable hacks
3415			because Standard-knowledge is scarce among category 1 coders. Category 1
3416			code is seen mostly in Flipcode and Gamedev.net articles and forums. Also
3417			it is seen in almost every API ever developed by Microsoft. A slightly
3418			less bad version of category 1 code is seen in libraries that call
3419			themselves "high-quality C++ libraries" but that don't even use a single
3420			namespace and rely heavily on macros and other unsafe preprocessing
3421			techniques where this is totally unnecessary. Most of those libraries are
3422			that way because they were started before the 1998 C++ Standard's stuff
3423			got implemented in main-stream compilers.
3424
3425			Category 2 code is what I'd like to see as the meaning of the term
3426			"C++ code". It is Standard-compliant, uses multiple programming
3427			paradigms and is pushing the language to the max (and beyond ;) to
3428			create easy to use, efficient, highly-reusable and easy to extend
3429			programs/libraries/modules/etc. Unfortunately, category 2 code is
3430			hard to write when you have to work with incompetent compilers like
3431			MSVC6/7. Category 2 code is mostly seen in:
3432	root	1.387	%
3433	root	1.240	[On "Main Loop with Fixed Time Steps", a Windows programmer commented:]
3434	root	1.239
3435			Just to point out, With a tick being a maximum of FFFFFFFFh, you only
3436			have about 49 days of tick time since the system has started! Though I
3437			doubt any game or even system runs for that long.
3438	root	1.387	%
3439	root	1.238	[http://www.paulgraham.com/popular.html]
3440			"The best writing is rewriting," wrote E. B. White. Every good writer
3441			knows this, and it's true for software too.
3442	root	1.387	%
3443	root	1.237	> think it needs the Ultimate Refactor..."rm -rf programs/Xserver/GL"
3444
3445			... and I was told "rm -rf" means "read mail, really fast!"
3446			;)
3447	root	1.387	%
3448	root	1.235	[this is not a blogggggg]
3449			One fine day, I removed the "video=matrox:off" from my kernel commandline,
3450			having removed the matrox card from my machine months ago. Promptly, the
3451			proprietary nvidia driver greeted me with:
3452
3453			NVIDIA: Failed to map framebuffer memors
3454
3455	root	1.236	Adding the video option back made it work again. No, I do not have any
3456			framebuffer devices compiled into the kernel, either...
3457	root	1.387	%
3458	root	1.234	[taken out of a public mail by a journalist... I have never seen anybody
3459			using so many abbreviations...]
3460
3461			Hi Volker -
3462
3463			alles klar ..!? Bin mit dem Buch i. Stretch .. Lektorat / Korrektorat
3464	root	1.388	Architekturbuch ... wie üblich, kennst das ja wahrsch. auch ... alles zu
3465			spät ...
3466	root	1.234
3467			Dann gehts direktemang in die Ferien (2 Wochen Gomera ab komm. SA ...)
3468
3469			Ja, und dann find ich doch Volker ganz Massiv im Briefkasten a. SA ..
3470
3471	root	1.388	schönes Foto von dir ... 1 Seite .. 2 seiten Interview, m. Fortsetzung im
3472			nächsten Heft ..!!! (äusserst rar b. nem Interview ...)
3473	root	1.234
3474	root	1.388	herzliche Grüsse
3475	root	1.234
3476			tom
3477	root	1.247
3478	root	1.234	PS: Mein Wissenschtf.Kollege und Filmemacher ist der Meinung, dass das Thema
3479	root	1.388	'Copyrights, Commons, Freedom' etc ...spannend wäre, aber schlecht fürs TV
3480	root	1.234	... Du kannst prakt. nichts mehr themat. Anspruchsvolles machen ... auch b.
3481	root	1.388	Arte war irgend nen Problem (fällt mir auf d. Schnelle nicht mehr ein ...
3482	root	1.234	schon ein paar Wochen her ...)
3483	root	1.387	%
3484	root	1.233	From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
3485			Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4
3486			Message-ID: <20040826183838.GE2793@holomorphy.com>
3487
3488			On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 02:02:29AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
3489	root	1.247	> How old are you? I thought you were the guy at Linux Tag with fashion
3490			> oriented hair who gave a talk on his XFS work? Did I confuse you with
3491	root	1.233	> someone else?
3492
3493			Index: mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS
3494			===================================================================
3495			--- mm1-2.6.9-rc1.orig/CREDITS 2004-08-26 10:37:57.424567967 -0700
3496			+++ mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS 2004-08-26 11:35:24.977260109 -0700
3497			@@ -2677,6 +2677,14 @@
3498			S: 79098 Freiburg
3499			S: Germany
3500
3501			+N: Hans Reiser
3502			+E: reiser@namesys.com
3503			+W: http://www.namesys.com/
3504			+D: official Linux kernel hairstyle critic
3505			+S: 6979 Exeter Dr
3506			+S: Oakland, CA 94611
3507			+S: USA
3508			+
3509			N: Joerg Reuter
3510			E: jreuter@yaina.de
3511			W: http://yaina.de/jreuter/
3512	root	1.387	%
3513	root	1.232	Partial lynx-output for mail sent by "T-Online Vertragsbrief":
3514			[poeppel_magenta.gif]
3515	root	1.387	%
3516	root	1.231	[http://www.dark-skies.org/theproblems.html#security]
3517			Better ligthing does not affect crime rates
3518	root	1.387	%
3519	root	1.230	[http://www.immunitysec.com/downloads/tc0.pdf]
3520			Label: "Difficulty of owning Windows vs. Difficulty to make this graph"
3521	root	1.387	%
3522	root	1.229	[rxvt-unicode (mine! :) vs. gnome-terminal :)]
3523			[http://bugs.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137864]
3524			[...]
3525			Upgrading to major: the first person to fix this (fix = performance is
3526			within a factor of 2 of rxvt-unicode for all four of the tests here) gets
3527			$50 from me, or an expensive dinner + all the beer they can handle if they
3528			ever visit Sydney, Australia ;)
3529			[...]
3530			Tagging this critical+urgent. How dare I, you ask? Doubling the reward -
3531			$100 if this is fixed (see above) before September 1, 2004. $0 after that
3532			(and I'll return it to a normal bug ;) If anyone else wants to contribute
3533			to whoever ends up fixing this, please join in..
3534	root	1.387	%
3535	root	1.228	[SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301268,00.html]
3536			[SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301538,00.html]
3537			Dass die Flimmerkiste ein beliebiges "Nullmedium" sei, beklagen
3538			Kulturkritiker von jeher. Doch nun zeigt selbst ein unvoreingenommener
3539			Blick aufs TV-Programm: Die Quote ist heilig, das Niveau sinkt auf breiter
3540			Front - auch bei ARD und ZDF. Verdummt die Na
3541	root	1.387	%
3542	root	1.226	[SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM,ed-XX1sNy0yR7p~QMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/brainleak%202004-03-02.html]
3543	root	1.227	[...] Tech savvy people will be inclining towards clicking the cancel
3544			button by default whenever they are presented a question which they don't
3545			fully understand, or didn't expect to see. Regular computer users will
3546			be inclined to press the Ok button instead, because they fear that by
3547			clicking cancel they might be causing something they don't understand not
3548			to work, something that they probably won't be able to fix afterwards
3549			anyway. If a geek fucks up somehow, he'll know what to do to fix it
3550			anyway, so there's no harm done clicking cancel. [...]
3551	root	1.387	%
3552	root	1.223	[http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/00/10/marienbad.html]
3553			I once had a postmodern intertextual moment at a drugstore bookrack when I
3554	root	1.224	picked up a paperback with the following title: Bram Stoker's Dracula:
3555	root	1.223	A Novelization Based on the Original Screenplay.
3556	root	1.387	%
3557	root	1.222	[bts show 215647]
3558			[yes, the whole thing]
3559	root	1.387	%
3560	root	1.221	[bts show 254316]
3561	root	1.247	> > The problem is not in luit, it's not in XTerm, it's not even in termcap;
3562			> > it's in the morass of complexity that some mindless jerk who'll be first
3563			> > against the wall when the revolution comes standardised as ISO 2022.
3564	root	1.221	>
3565			> ( google suggests 2022 has many fans ;-)
3566
3567			We'll use a larger wall.
3568	root	1.387	%
3569	root	1.220	[Maedhros35 about "Clockwork Orange" on IMDB]
3570			This is a movie I would not recommend even to my worst enemy. It is a
3571			horrible picture, containing too much random violence and rape committed
3572			by four no-goods in white pyjamas, than is good for anyone too watch.
3573
3574			The only fun moment is when the main character, being brainwashed into a
3575			non-violent state of mind, is being bashed by his former friends.
3576
3577			There may be some "hidden message" in this movie about society and blah,
3578			but the message (not too well brought) is completely drowned.
3579
3580			It is not even a waste of your time, it is worse than that. Avoid at all
3581			cost.
3582			["too much violence" but "the only fun moment".... What the...!?]
3583	root	1.387	%
3584	root	1.219	When searching on google for:
3585
3586	root	1.225	kakerlake schabe made
3587	root	1.219
3588			Google asked me wether I instead wanted to look for:
3589
3590	root	1.225	kakerlake _schwabe_ made
3591	root	1.387	%
3592	root	1.218	What we learned this week;
3593			"Hell is a bad place to be and renders with 8-12fps"
3594	root	1.387	%
3595	root	1.216	"Britain is one of only three countries in the world (the others are
3596			Germany and Egypt) enduring stricter censorship today than 25years ago"
3597	root	1.387	%
3598	root	1.215	[translated]
3599			23:07 <schmorp> libtool is soo broken
3600			23:07 <schmorp> ./libtool gcc-3.4 ...
3601			23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
3602			23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
3603			23:07 <schmorp> ...
3604			23:07 <schmorp> libtool --tag=ulubulu
3605			23:07 <schmorp> libtool: ignoring unknown tag ulubulu
3606			23:07 <schmorp> and it works
3607	root	1.387	%
3608	root	1.214	History does not repeat itself. Historians repeat each other.
3609			-- Lord Balfour
3610	root	1.387	%
3611	root	1.213	The whole of Mozilla is just one big focus bug.
3612	root	1.387	%
3613	root	1.212	<Beerman> When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then
3614			I realised that The Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked
3615			him to forgive me.
3616	root	1.387	%
3617	root	1.211	[slashdot]
3618			> there are currently no active, reliable ways to obtain the program listings for New Zealand television
3619
3620			I have been to NZ. You have no television.
3621	root	1.387	%
3622	root	1.210	[IMDB user about "What?" by Roman Polanski]
3623			"What?" fills the gap for those who get a kick out of 70's porn plots, but
3624			get bored during the sex scenes.
3625	root	1.387	%
3626	root	1.209	I say to you that the VCR is to the ... American public as the Boston
3627			strangler is to the woman home alone.
3628			- Jack Valenti (CEO, MPAA)
3629	root	1.387	%
3630	root	1.208	[Bruce Schneier]
3631			SP2 is an important security upgrade to Windows XP, and I hope it is
3632			widely installed among licensed XP users. I also hope it is quickly
3633			pirated, so unlicensed XP users can also install it. In order for me
3634			to remain secure on the Internet, I need everyone to become more
3635			secure. And the more people who install SP2, the more we all benefit.
3636	root	1.387	%
3637	root	1.207	[From Paul Eggert]
3638			[...] Worse, HP-UX asctime rejects any tm_year that is negative; this
3639			violates the C standard, but HP won't take my bug reports since I'm not a
3640			HP-UX customer. [...]
3641	root	1.387	%
3642	root	1.206	>>>Just curious, If I recall correctly, didn't Forth used to be FORTH?
3643			>>
3644			>>Since FORTH is not an acronym (the way BASIC, LISP, FORTRAN and C are)
3645			>>but a (deliberate) misspelling of "fourth", when it became possible to
3646			>>use LC the fashion became to do so. My book, "Scientific FORTH" (1992)
3647			>>spelled it in UC.
3648	root	1.247	>
3649			>
3650	root	1.206	> BASIC, LISP and FORTRAN are acronyms. C isn't.
3651
3652			C isn't all caps, just the initial letter.
3653	root	1.387	%
3654	root	1.205	[comp.lang.c]
3655			> According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language
3656
3657			I'm sorry, but that's like quoting Bjarne Stroustrup on correct ISO C
3658			usage.
3659
3660			Richard
3661	root	1.387	%
3662	root	1.204	I remember Elwyn Berlekamp describing what goes on at computer go
3663			tournaments (where computer programs play go against each other) - unlike
3664			at computer chess tournaments where the programs far surpass their
3665			creators, at go tournaments the creators sit there and look at a game in
3666			play and say things to each other like, "Gosh, I wonder if my program will
3667			repair that weakness before your program notices it."
3668	root	1.387	%
3669	root	1.203	21:40 <oesi> sansho: du bist kindisch. :)
3670			21:40 <sansho> oesi: das hab ich mir von dir abgeguckt
3671	root	1.387	%
3672	root	1.202	MarkD [-]: The trouble with political jokes is that some of them get elected
3673	root	1.387	%
3674	root	1.201	A coherent understanding of Philosophy will convince you that you are
3675			competent to understand the universe and achieve the human values that
3676			make life meaningful. You will know when you know something and when you
3677			don't, when you understand something and when you don't, and why. You
3678			will also realize why morality and ethics are too important to be left to
3679			anyone but yourself. You will learn that there are no shortcuts to truth,
3680			no authorities you can follow blindly, and perhaps most important, that
3681			nothing at all exists except reality. In sum, you will know what human
3682			existence means and implies.
3683
3684			[Introduction to Philosophy, Joel Katz]
3685	root	1.387	%
3686	root	1.201	> > Casts from void* are necessary in C++, not in C.
3687			>
3688			> I am aware... I'm fishing for more info! Perhaps if I reposted again and
3689			> said you were wrong I'll get more...
3690			>
3691			> You're WRONG!
3692
3693	root	1.388	void* is implicitly converted to the destination pointer type (C99 §6.3.2.3
3694			and §7.20.3.1).
3695	root	1.387	%
3696	root	1.200	From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu>
3697			In the DOS days, I had a scattering of students who really
3698			knew about computers. In the XP days, I have none.
3699	root	1.387	%
3700	root	1.199	[another variation, more useful]
3701			A. It should be obvious.
3702			Q. How is it hard?
3703			A. Because it makes it hard to follow conversations.
3704			Q. Why is top-posting bad?
3705	root	1.387	%
3706	root	1.198	[windows is a good place to learn programming]
3707			Subject: Linux c prog doesn't work on Sun Solaris Machine....?
3708
3709			Compiled using g++ on linux and then I tried to execute it on Solaris.
3710			The error message was something like "can't execute a.out"
3711
3712			- works ok on linux
3713			- ran chmod so Sun user has execute/read/etc permissions. chmod u=rwx
3714
3715			Any clues why?
3716			I am new to the non windows world.
3717
3718			Thanks
3719	root	1.387	%
3720	root	1.197	[comp.lang.c]
3721			> I want to write some data on the EEPROM of a PIC 16F877 microcontroller via
3722			> serial port rs232. What library can I use with a gcc compiler to perform
3723			> this ?
3724
3725			This is not a C question. Please try asking again in comp.arch.embedded where
3726			we will advise you to use an 8051, AVR, or MSP430 instead of the PIC.
3727	root	1.387	%
3728	root	1.196	[comp.std.c]
3729			In message <c4k0mj$fmp$1@sunnews.cern.ch>
3730			Dan.Pop@cern.ch (Dan Pop) wrote:
3731
3732			> In <nfa0k1-03l.ln1@jones.homeip.net> lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com writes:
3733	root	1.247	>
3734			> >The text of the standard only yields one reasonable interpretation.
3735			>
3736	root	1.196	> Yup, mine!
3737	root	1.387	%
3738	root	1.195	[links-2.1pre13 ChangeLog]
3739			Thu Oct 9 16:44:10 GMT 2003 mikulas:
3740
3741			Do not print 1000l on FreeBSD console on exit
3742	root	1.387	%
3743	root	1.194	[an old question, revisited]
3744			http://www.style.org/unladenswallow/
3745	root	1.387	%
3746	root	1.194	[comp.lang.c]
3747	root	1.247	> can any one translate the following codes into c++ codes,
3748	root	1.194
3749			This is comp.lang.c. We do C, not C++. We do not translate C into
3750			obfuscated languages. The good news is that your code already _is_ C++.
3751	root	1.387	%
3752	root	1.194	[comp.lang.c]
3753			I didn't say he was incorrect. I said he was an idiot.
3754	root	1.387	%
3755	root	1.193	according to babelfish "glibber" in german means "more glibber" in english :-)
3756	root	1.387	%
3757	root	1.192	[Debian Bug #163625 features one of my favourite bug report subjects:]
3758			Installing additional mozilla Debian packages
3759	root	1.247	deletes additionally installed mozilla packages
3760	root	1.387	%
3761	root	1.388	[Aus einer Werbung für dne "Windows-Berater". Es ist erschreckend, zeigt
3762			aber, das manche Maßnahmen von Microsoft völlig irreführenderweise als
3763			Sicherheitsmaßnahme verstanden und dargestellt werden. Ich frage mich, wie
3764	root	1.190	DRM in Zukunft aufgenommen und beworben werden wird...]
3765
3766	root	1.388	"Kaum angekündigt, schon ist der Registrierungsschutz geknackt"
3767	root	1.190
3768	root	1.388	Das neue Windows XP lässt sich nur mit einem besonderen Registrierungscode
3769	root	1.190	dauerhaft betreiben. Besorgt sich der Anwender diese Lizenz nicht,
3770			wird das System gesperrt. Damit sollen Raubkopien und unerlaubte
3771			Mehrfachnutzung verhindert werden. Kaum vorgestellt, knacken Hacker
3772	root	1.388	diese Verschlüsselung schon. Checklisten zeigen Ihnen, wie dieser Klau
3773			abläuft. Damit Sie sich und Ihr System vor ungebetenen Zugriffen und Viren
3774			schützen können.
3775	root	1.387	%
3776	root	1.189	[Reiner Gamma]
3777			http://www.geocities.com/kc5lei/SWIRL2001.htm
3778	root	1.387	%
3779	root	1.188	>> Asshole keep you shit out of alt.binaries.games.adult until you read
3780			[...]
3781	root	1.187	>Dude, thisi is not "alt.binaries.games.adult".
3782	root	1.188	[...]
3783	root	1.187	Yes, it is. Or, it was, till your post cut the crosspost. It was
3784			crossposted to several groups and the person you're replying to will
3785			never get your message.
3786	root	1.387	%
3787	root	1.186	[http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/doc/Details.html.pl]
3788			As this project will always run unknown binary code of proprietary W32
3789			filesystem drivers, the code can never be trusted.
3790	root	1.387	%
3791	root	1.185	[http://www.hello-penguin.com/gtm-perl/doc/Perl.html]
3792			(look at the BUGS section... very funny to read, btw., it's
3793			a sourceforge project called GT.M).
3794	root	1.387	%
3795	root	1.184	bigger things. We\\\\\\\'d be using C + asm and Hax
3796			01:15 <Sesse> we all the backslashes?
3797			01:15 <schmorp> no idea, i have these in some of my descriptions, too
3798			01:15 <schmorp> it seems that sourceofrge does " -> \" on every deascription change
3799			01:15 <Sesse> sounds like php
3800			01:15 <schmorp> i guess it's written in php
3801			01:15 <schmorp> g
3802			01:15 <Sesse> :-D
3803	root	1.387	%
3804	root	1.183	http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/
3805			[...] At the beginning I didn't expect that I would actually succeed,
3806			since I thought I would need almost half of that just for the headers. I
3807			think my first cut was 458 bytes in size. I was quite pleased with myself
3808			when I trimmed that down to less than 300 bytes, ecstatic when I finally
3809			reached the 255-byte goal, and downright triumphant when I later got it to
3810			work in 238 bytes. By the time I had a 198-byte version, I was just plain
3811			dumbfounded. It's now at 171 bytes. [...]
3812	root	1.387	%
3813	root	1.182	[http://www.mindspring.com/~kimall/Japanese/polite.html]
3814			[...] Americans didn't invent English (although the Brits will happily
3815			disown our mangled version of it! :-) ) [...]
3816	root	1.387	%
3817	root	1.181	[Eugene Spafford]
3818			During the heights of some of the recent viruses, I was discarding 30Mb of
3819			email per day -- all of it viruses. And I should point out -- viruses for
3820			Windows. There have been something like 100,000 viruses for MS operating
3821			systems, only about 50 for the Mac, and about 3 for commercial Unix
3822			systems. That difference isn't because of a difference in the prevalence
3823			of the machines -- there are basic architectural differences.
3824	root	1.387	%
3825	root	1.180	[http://MarginalHacks.com/]
3826			If you can't vi it, it sucks.
3827	root	1.387	%
3828	root	1.180	[from the somewhat outdated xterm-faq]
3829			GNOME TERMINAL
3830			[...]
3831			The documentation is fragmentary (with a comment suggesting that the
3832			author does not know where to find relevant information), and the program
3833			fares badly with vttest. [...] But it suffices for vi.
3834			[.. later]
3835			There is a variation of xvt (ancestor of rxvt) originally known as kvt
3836			bundled with KDE which may be referred to as "kterm", but I do not find it
3837			interesting, other than to comment that it was a poor choice of name.
3838	root	1.387	%
3839	root	1.179	[I love X programs]
3840			[xc/programs/xprop/xprop.c]
3841			/*
3842	root	1.247	* blip: a debugging routine. Prints Blip! on stderr with flushing.
3843	root	1.179	*/
3844			void blip()
3845	root	1.247	{
3846	root	1.179	fflush(stdout);
3847			fprintf(stderr, "blip!\n");
3848			fflush(stderr);
3849	root	1.247	}
3850	root	1.387	%
3851	root	1.178	[pavel machek commenting on a proposed patch]
3852			+ int alternative_order = 999;
3853
3854			Why not 666? :-).
3855	root	1.387	%
3856	root	1.178	[yosh on gimp-developer]
3857			It's also better to research your suggestions a little, so that they don't
3858			sound completely out there, thereby reinforcing the viewpoint that Windows
3859			users are clueless.
3860	root	1.387	%
3861	root	1.177	[modularity makes unix systems more secure]
3862			http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/36029.html
3863	root	1.387	%
3864	root	1.176	[beware german translations]
3865			dpkg: Warnung - ignoriere Kollision, kann sowieso weitermachen!
3866	root	1.387	%
3867	root	1.175	[http://www.cypherspace.org/adam/hacks/lotus-nsa-key.html, look around there]
3868			NSA's Backdoor Key from Lotus-Notes
3869	root	1.387	%
3870	root	1.174	The word "ampersand" is an alteration of the phrase "et, per se and" (that
3871			is: "et by itself [means] and"), which became corrupted to "and, per se
3872			and", and finally, ampersand.
3873	root	1.387	%
3874	root	1.173	[xc/lib/X11/lcUTF8.c]
3875			[...] We distinguish three classes of clients: [1st] [...] [2nd] Clients
3876			which accept CompoundText with multiple character sets and parse it
3877			themselves. (Example: emacs, xemacs.) [3rd] [...] In a distant future,
3878			when clients of the first and second kind will have disappeared, [...]
3879	root	1.387	%
3880	root	1.171	[linux-2.6/drivers/md/Kconfig]
3881			WARNING: RAID-6 is currently highly experimental. If you
3882			use it, there is no guarantee whatsoever that it won't
3883			destroy your data, eat your disk drives, insult your mother,
3884			or re-appoint George W. Bush.
3885	root	1.387	%
3886	root	1.170	[http://www.herodios.com/herron_tc/atsign.html]
3887			Many Finnish terms for @ are connected with cats. Not content with naming
3888			the sign for what it looks like, Finnish names it for what it looks like
3889			sounds like. In addition to "kissanhnta [cat's tail], "miau," "miumau,"
3890			and "miuku" are all "miau merkki" [meow marks] in Finnish. Other terms
3891			from Finnish include "apinanhanta" [a monkey's tail], or "hiirenhanta"
3892			[mouse's tail]. Some "computer people" use the English word "at."
3893	root	1.387	%
3894	root	1.247	17:07 <oesi> schmorp: mal ein guter kommentar auf heise zum thema "Bill tourt durch
3895	root	1.388	die USA und kündigt innovative neuentwicklungen an"
3896			17:08 <oesi> Kommentar war: "was hat er angekündigt: drive-letter in unicode?"
3897	root	1.387	%
3898	root	1.168	[Ken Lunde about his copy of KS C 5657-1991:]
3899			Here's another interesting note. My official copy of this
3900			standard has all of its 2,856 hanja hand-written.
3901	root	1.387	%
3902	root	1.172	[cvs, while checking in changes to uunet's radiusd]
3903	root	1.168	confused about file platform.h -- ignoring
3904	root	1.387	%
3905	root	1.167	[http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/02/24/1011245.shtml]
3906	root	1.247	And most likely, the FBI didn't tell the hosting company exactly what it
3907			is they wanted. When the Feds come in with a search warrant, they don't
3908			ask for your help. They say, "stand aside" and commence
3909	root	1.167	%
3910	root	1.166	http://www.bash.org/?178890
3911	root	1.387	%
3912	root	1.165	[http://www.bash.org/?75016]
3913			<ig3l\|Guel> If Osama B. isn't in Afghanistan, and if he isn't dead, we believe he is in another country" - US army General
3914	root	1.387	%
3915	root	1.247	00:56 <oesi> ulpfr: ich schrieb mal einen kompletten mailer in emacs, weil mir rmail
3916			nicht gefallen hat. man wird aelter und reifer und droppt dann emacs
3917	root	1.164	einfach :)
3918			00:56 <ulpfr> Weichei
3919	root	1.387	%
3920	root	1.163	[spca50x.sourceforge.net]
3921			/*
3922			* Function compares two strings.
3923	root	1.247	* Return offset in pussy where prick ends if "prick" may penetrate
3924	root	1.163	* int "pussy" like prick into pussy, -1 otherwise.
3925			*/
3926			static inline int match(const char* prick, const char* pussy, int len2)
3927			{
3928			int len1 = strlen(prick); //length of male string
3929			[...]
3930	root	1.387	%
3931	root	1.163	http://www.leckse.net/profilieren/chat
3932	root	1.387	%
3933	root	1.388	rohw, schleymig und formlos Fleisch wie di Schleuch eines Tündenfischs
3934	root	1.387	%
3935	root	1.162	[rxvt-*/src/init.[cC]]
3936			/* grab colors before netscape does */
3937			Get_Colours ();
3938	root	1.387	%
3939	root	1.388	[oesi über apache-2.0]
3940	root	1.160	03:10 <oesi> ist mir egal, ich fahre alle 24h den apache runter...
3941			03:10 <oesi> ich fahre praktisch das 1.3er config-file. das gibt sicherheit :)
3942			03:11 <oesi> ich kann apache nicht stoppen.
3943			03:11 <oesi> apachectl stop
3944			03:11 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
3945			03:11 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
3946			03:12 <oesi> wie konnte ich den starten?
3947			03:12 <schmorp> rofl
3948	root	1.161	[...]
3949			03:29 <oesi> es ist kein scherz. wirklich:
3950			03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl sslstart
3951			03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl stop
3952			03:29 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
3953			03:29 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
3954	root	1.387	%
3955	root	1.159	[http://www.jmarshall.com/tools/cgiproxy/]
3956			[...] Here's a demo (username "free", password "speech") [...]
3957	root	1.387	%
3958	root	1.158	[rxvt/src/screen.C]
3959			#ifdef DEBUG_STRICT
3960	root	1.247	assert(screen.cur.row >= 0);
3961	root	1.158	#else /* drive with your eyes closed */
3962			MAX_IT(screen.cur.row, 0);
3963			#endif
3964	root	1.387	%
3965	root	1.157	[http://www.mine-control.com/zack/timesync/timesync.html]
3966			[...] Also, anecdotal evidence from network programmers suggests that the
3967			UDP implementation under Win32 is unstable and overly-unreliable. [...]
3968	root	1.387	%
3969	root	1.156	> > Ceterum censeo \| PGP encrypted mail preferred.
3970			> > Redmond esse delendam. \| PGP Key at www.MPA-Garching.MPG.de/~nog/
3971			>
3972			> Willkomme im Club .... :-)))
3973
3974			Danke - ich bin schon lange dabei... ;-)
3975			--
3976			OpenVMS @ 25 \| Martin Vorlaender \| VMS & WNT programmer
3977	root	1.387	%
3978	root	1.388	Um die Jahrhundertwende erfand ein Mann namens Friedolin Tär einen
3979			IQ-Test, der die Gesamtpersönlichkeit sehr stark miteinbezog.
3980			Charakterstärke, Grosszügigkeit, flexibles Denken etc. wurden also
3981			mitbewertet. Die Skala mit der Maßeinheit "Tär" wies ein großes Spektrum
3982			auf. Ärzte, Wissenschaftler erreichen IQ's im Megatär-Bereich. Der
3983			Durchschnittsmensch weist einige Kilotär auf. Nach unten gibt es Dezitär,
3984			Centitär... und schießlich Mil(l)itär...
3985	root	1.387	%
3986	root	1.154	http://senseis.xmp.net/?GetStrongAtGote
3987			http://users.skynet.be/rexburton/ritchie.htm
3988	root	1.387	%
3989	root	1.153	Subject: [Swsusp-devel] 2.6.1: It could go faster if I didn't have egg on my face.
3990	root	1.387	%
3991	root	1.153	"It's not Hollywood. War is real, war is primarily not about defeat or
3992			victory, it is about death. I've seen thousands and thousands of dead
3993			bodies. Do you think I want to have an academic debate on this subject?"
3994			-- Robert Fisk
3995	root	1.387	%
3996	root	1.151	[the satellite death spiral: why spacecraft are unnecessarily expensive]
3997			http://www.dynacon.ca/pdf/files/newspdf_63.pdf
3998	root	1.152	[see also the small satellites homepage]
3999			http://centaur.sstl.co.uk/SSHP/
4000	root	1.387	%
4001	root	1.150	[http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/files/lec_lev.htm]
4002			"Anthropologists concur that America is an exceedingly 'low-touch,'
4003			high-violence culture"
4004			[...]
4005			"[...] Republican members of the House of Representatives called for the
4006			resignation of Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders, whose transgression was to
4007			suggest, in response to a question following a speech to sex educators,
4008			that masturbation was an appropriate subject for classroom discussion.
4009			This remark, according to one congressman, was part of a social movement
4010			that was "killing the moral fiber of America" and just one symptom of
4011			a decline also manifested in reckless driving, an indecisive military
4012			policy-dubbed "mission creep," and homosexuals in the Boy Scouts." [...]
4013
4014			Masturbation is an absolute taboo in the US. Many adults still think that
4015			they are the only ones who do such dirty things.
4016	root	1.387	%
4017	root	1.150	From: <[...]@aol.com>
4018			Subject: Re: [...]
4019
4020			Marc wrote on 1/7/2004, 6:57 AM:
4021
4022			> Congrats. No kidding, you are the first person @aol that ever sent me a
4023			> sensible mail. I was planning to reject mail from aol.com right away
4024			> since (in the last 8 years at least), nothing good came from there, but you
4025			> saved it :)
4026
4027			Yeah, I get that a lot, but you've got to know that .aol.com email
4028			addresses are also used by the people who work for AOL (cough, cough :).
4029			[...]
4030	root	1.387	%
4031	root	1.150	From: Alan Cox
4032			> The code to disable prefetch on Athlon is 300 bytes and hurts your PIV?
4033			> Really? I'll dig back through the code, but I recall it as adding or
4034			> deleting an entry in a table to enable prefetch. If it's affecting PIV the
4035			> code to use prefetch is seriously broken.
4036
4037			Big time. Its over 300 bytes long because its embedded in each inline
4038			prefetch and it causes a branch misprediction almost every time. Amazing
4039			what you find when you actually measure stuff 8)
4040			[...]
4041	root	1.387	%
4042	root	1.150	http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4043	root	1.387	%
4044	root	1.150	http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4045	root	1.387	%
4046	root	1.150	http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4047	root	1.387	%
4048	root	1.149	[FYI: java was officially announced in 1995, and certainly didn't exist
4049			even as a concept before 1991. It's interesting how many people nowadays
4050			claim to have decades of java experience]
4051			On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:11:54AM -0500, Robert Soros <robert@soros.ca> wrote:
4052			> I am extremely excited about your ideas to fix freenet and would be
4053			> willing to plug your code into fred (I have fourteen years java
4054			> programming experience.) Could you provide a link to your code? What
4055	root	1.387	%
4056	root	1.149	http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4057	root	1.387	%
4058	root	1.149	http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4059	root	1.387	%
4060	root	1.149	http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4061	root	1.387	%
4062	root	1.147	[in a private discussion about some potential problem that would cause]
4063			[mail not to be delivered]
4064			> > On the other hand, I see the same in some mail from RMS.
4065	root	1.247	>
4066	root	1.147	> Well, just because rms does it does not mean... :)
4067
4068			My point is that the FSF is unlikely to install something that
4069			bounces RMS's mail, at least, not for long.
4070	root	1.387	%
4071	root	1.147	On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Piers Cawley wrote:
4072
4073			> David Cantrell <david@cantrell.org.uk> writes:
4074			>
4075			> > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 11:16:52AM -0500, Tommie M. Jones wrote:
4076			> >> Anyone know of any perl software that does resume parsing.
4077			> >
4078			> > I don't think anyone has implemented continuations in perl, so I fail
4079			> > to see how you can have resumes. Or are you trying to parse some other
4080			> > language which does support this?
4081			>
4082
4083			Just because we share a language does not mean we understand each other.
4084
4085			In America there are two meanings for resume. One being to continue the
4086			other the equivalent of what ya'll call a CV (I think though I've never
4087			heard the term before) In the second definition resume is pronounced with
4088			a short u. I think there is a "`" in the proper spelling of the word but
4089			since Americans are not use to using punctuation in their words (other
4090			than to show ownership and contractions) it is usually loss.
4091	root	1.387	%
4092	root	1.147	echo $package has manual pages available in source form.
4093			echo "However, you don't have nroff, so they're probably useless to you."
4094			--Larry Wall in Configure from the perl distribution
4095	root	1.387	%
4096	root	1.146	AFTER 30 years of "daylight saving" - moving the clocks forward in the
4097			spring and then back again in the autumn - there is still an Abolish
4098			Daylight Saving Committee in New South Wales, Australia.
4099
4100			Added to the usual claims of such campaigns - for example, that the
4101			extra hour of daylight in the evening in summer fades the curtains - is
4102			a new one from ADSC spokeswoman Judith Hall, of Gunnedah, who told the
4103			Sydney Morning Herald: "No man has the right to choose the time of the
4104			rising and setting of the sun, only God."
4105
4106			Reader John McCallum, who told us about this, is surprised Hall doesn't
4107			explain why God doesn't simply exercise this choice. When people insist
4108			on moving their clocks forward, He should just move the sunrise forward
4109			and thwart them that way.
4110	root	1.387	%
4111	root	1.146	[Defect Report #205 to ISO-C]
4112			There was a unanimous vote that the feature is ugly, and a good consensus
4113			that its incorporation into the standard at the 11th hour was an
4114			unfortunate decision.
4115	root	1.387	%
4116	root	1.247	02:23 <oesi> Breaking News: SCO stellt per Wahrsager Codeklau in HURD in einem Jahr
4117	root	1.146	fest ;)
4118	root	1.387	%
4119	root	1.146	[http://www.unicode.org/standard/WhatIsUnicode.html]
4120
4121			Last updated: - Invalid Date
4122	root	1.387	%
4123	root	1.146	http://www.bash.org/?99060
4124	root	1.387	%
4125	root	1.145	[IZ-Buzzword-Bullshit-Bingo]
4126			http://www.l13.de/it/ibbb.html
4127	root	1.387	%
4128	root	1.144	Q: What is the state of the object after its lifetime has ended?
4129
4130			A: As a well-known software guru[3] once put it, speaking about a
4131			similar code fragment and anthropomorphically referring to the
4132			local object as a "he":
4133
4134			"He's not pining! He's passed on! This parrot is no more! He
4135			has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker!
4136			He's a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn't
4137			nailed him to the perch he'd be pushing up the daisies! His
4138			metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's
4139			kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down
4140			the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible! THIS IS AN
4141			EX-PARROT!"
4142
4143			- Dr. M. Python, BMath, MASc, PhD (CompSci)
4144	root	1.387	%
4145	root	1.144	[ach du schande]
4146			"pflichtpfandfrei"
4147	root	1.387	%
4148	root	1.142	[a comment on the demonstrations against bush in london]
4149			The police will shoot you.
4150
4151			OK, that's not strictly true. The CIA will shoot you. Then the police will
4152			arrest the CIA. Then American troops will invade.
4153
4154	root	1.247	Just another average day in central London.
4155	root	1.387	%
4156	root	1.141	[this signature gave me a laugh...]
4157			[...]even better is if there is a system function that sends out an arp
4158			reply.
4159
4160			pls. cc my email address
4161
4162			tia
4163			pd
4164
4165
4166	root	1.247	--
4167	root	1.141	^X^C
4168			q
4169			quit
4170			:q
4171			^C
4172			end
4173			x
4174			exit
4175			ZZ
4176			^D
4177			?
4178			help
4179			shit
4180			.
4181	root	1.387	%
4182	root	1.140	* muppet also hates bloatus notes. it doesn't need vnc to make it slow.
4183	root	1.387	%
4184	root	1.140	[From the File::Spec manpage on catdir]
4185			Concatenate two or more directory names to form a complete path ending
4186			with a directory. But remove the trailing slash from the resulting string,
4187			because it doesn't look good, isn't necessary and confuses OS2. [...]
4188	root	1.387	%
4189	root	1.140	[I love it]
4190			http://www.swindonweb.com/life/lifemagi0.htm
4191			http://www.armin-grewe.com/holiday/wiltshire/swindon-roundabout.htm
4192	root	1.387	%
4193	root	1.139	"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they go by."
4194			- Douglas Adams
4195	root	1.387	%
4196	root	1.138	Bill Gates is repeating the mantra that users are to blame for insecure
4197			PCs, in an interview with a Canadian newspaper. This refrain is familiar
4198			to the INQUIRER: Gates said more or less the same thing when he addressed
4199			an Assembly of CEOs in Berlin a few weeks ago.
4200
4201	root	1.247	The chief software architect (CSA.'.) told IT Business that perfect code
4202			wasn't the answer to security problems, but firewalls and keeping the
4203			software up to date were more important. The problems that have occurred
4204			this year wouldn't have happened if firms and individuals had set up
4205			their software properly.
4206	root	1.138
4207			He also claims in the article that Microsoft has always had security
4208			patches out before the exploits happened. Developers were also to blame
4209			because they didn't understand the application program interfaces, Gates
4210			told the publication.
4211
4212	root	1.247	And he also claimed that all forms of Unix and Linux have a greater
4213			number of vulnerabilities than Microsoft but don't spread as much because
4214			"they're not as dense" as Windows. Low volume software is hit by
4215			malicious people, high volume software, that is Windows, is hit by people
4216			who want visibility and glory.
4217	root	1.387	%
4218	root	1.137	[In the FAQ for a bootp client:]
4219
4220			o You are using --server to point to a server which doesn't run a bootp server
4221
4222			x Try not using it.
4223	root	1.387	%
4224	root	1.136	[http://www.politicalpulpit.com/Luke/LukeArchive0403.htm]
4225			The facts are simple: In Lynn, MA Principal of the Lynn English High
4226			School, Andrew Fila refused to allow teacher of English, Jeremy McKeen,
4227			to show the disputed film in his classes. McKeen had already submitted
4228			Moore's opus to his Department Head, Jane Balesta, for approval which she
4229			had given.
4230
4231			Said Fila, "I just pulled it. This is not the time nor the place to be
4232			showing something like that. The producer (Moore) is also an anti war
4233			person as well."
4234	root	1.387	%
4235	root	1.136	[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0254686/]
4236	root	1.388	"Ich habe keine Gefühle, merken sie sich das, Walter. Und wenn ich welche
4237			habe, werden sie nie über meine Intelligenz siegen".
4238	root	1.387	%
4239	root	1.388	["Was ist ein Kopierschutz überhaupt?"]
4240	root	1.135	[http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,270719,00.html]
4241	root	1.134
4242			Damit entspricht Windows der Definition eines illegalen Tools zur Umgehung
4243	root	1.388	des Kopierschutzes und müsste vom Markt genommen werden.
4244	root	1.135	[...]
4245	root	1.134	Das Bundesjustizministerium ist der Auffassung, dass die Frage nur durch
4246	root	1.388	ein Gericht zu klären sei. Das Programm "Windows" kenne man zu wenig.
4247	root	1.135	[...]
4248			Handelt es sich bei Windows also rechtlich um das Abwehren einer Straftat
4249			oder um das illegale Aushebeln eines Kopierschutzverfahrens?
4250	root	1.387	%
4251	root	1.134	http://www.nature.com/nsu/021209/021209-10.html#b1
4252	root	1.387	%
4253	root	1.132	[A document] Written to answer the often asked question about the requirements
4254			on the kernel to get a POSIX compliant thread implementation. And I don't
4255			mean an implementation like this horrible implementation from IBM.
4256			-- Ulrich Drepper
4257	root	1.387	%
4258	root	1.131	GCC generates truly horrible code when no optimization is enabled.
4259			-- Ulrich Drepper
4260	root	1.387	%
4261	root	1.131	Most programmers think that the programs they write are fairly well
4262			written and perform as good as possible. In most cases this is not
4263	root	1.133	correct. -- Ulrich Drepper
4264	root	1.387	%
4265	root	1.130	Even though I cannot accept the rejection of fair use rights by the film
4266			and music industry I cannot endorse piracy.
4267			-- Ulrich Drepper
4268	root	1.387	%
4269	root	1.130	Never say "PIC Code"!. This is duplication.
4270			-- Ulrich Drepper
4271	root	1.387	%
4272	root	1.129	[http://www.ffk.co.at/programme_ffksnetmanager.asp]
4273	root	1.388	Ping und Netsend laufen jetzt über die Windows API, daher schneller und
4274			zuverlässiger
4275	root	1.387	%
4276	root	1.129	[comment from linux/drivers/block/floppy.c]
4277			/*
4278			* 1999/08/13 -- Paul Slootman -- floppy stopped working on Alpha after 24
4279			* days, 6 hours, 32 minutes and 32 seconds (i.e. MAXINT jiffies; ints were
4280			* being used to store jiffies, which are unsigned longs).
4281			*/
4282	root	1.387	%
4283	root	1.128	[Microsoft creates a problem and inspires an industry to work around it.
4284			Just Great. Also learn about Microsoft Logic(tm): DLL's save memory, so
4285			you need to use them. But please use your own private versions of all your
4286			dlls so that they aren't shared...]
4287			http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnsetup/html/dlldanger1.asp
4288	root	1.387	%
4289	root	1.128	[http://lorrie.cranor.org/pubs/drm03.html]
4290			Pirating Movies
4291
4292			[...] The attackers aren't DVD owners making illegal copies and putting
4293			them on file sharing networks. The attackers are industry insiders making
4294			illegal copies long before the DVD is ever on the market.
4295	root	1.387	%
4296	root	1.128	[Look at the time scale...]
4297			http://www.networm.org/graphics/worm-progression.Sep03.pdf
4298	root	1.387	%
4299	root	1.127	[Just funny]
4300			http://www.zug.com/pranks/turnpike/
4301	root	1.387	%
4302	root	1.127	[http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,60391,00.html]
4303			The CEO of Symantec is advocating "legislation to criminalize the
4304			sharing of information and tools online that can be used by malicious
4305			hackers and virus writers." Doesn't he realize that most of his
4306			company's engineers would end up in jail?
4307	root	1.387	%
4308	root	1.126	[http://top40-charts.com/artist.php?aid=1145]
4309			Why is it you forgive Bush for saying "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET OSAMA".
4310			and "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET SADDAM". "I GUARANTEE THERE ARE WMD'S" etc
4311			etc. Yet now he could care less about them? Of course, Clinton lies about
4312			sex and that's a huge deal(not that i am justifying what Bubba did)
4313
4314			Why is it when the marines stormed in, they protected the oil fields but
4315			left all the other resources of Iraq to be looted?
4316
4317			Why is it that the White House doesn't want to release information on
4318			9/11, and only gave the investigation a $3 million budget?(it took $70
4319			million to find out Clinton got a BJ, and that's all they found out for
4320			$70 million!!). Meanwhile, even with a pathetic budget, the WH stonewalls
4321			the investigating committee. It's not enough for the WH to just underfund
4322			them, theyve got to make sure they can't get to any usefull information in
4323			the first place!
4324	root	1.387	%
4325	root	1.247	Buying a Unix machine guarantees you a descent into Hell. It starts when
4326			you plug the computer in and it won't boot. Yes, they really did sell you
4327			a $10,000 computer with an unformatted disk drive.
4328	root	1.125	-- Philip Greenspun
4329	root	1.387	%
4330	root	1.124	"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we
4331			don't believe in it at all." -- Noam Chomsky
4332	root	1.387	%
4333	root	1.124	"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right
4334			to say it." -- not actually from Voltaire
4335	root	1.387	%
4336	root	1.123	"Our ability to innovate is predicated on our ability to own the
4337			platform."
4338			[Kirk Koenigsbauer, strategy manager at Microsoft's MSN]
4339	root	1.387	%
4340	root	1.123	Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
4341			waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is that
4342			frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses
4343			and you can sitll raed it wiuthoit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not
4344			raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.
4345	root	1.320	[http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/personal/matt.davis/Cmabrigde/]
4346	root	1.387	%
4347	root	1.123	[The world is getting saner and saner. The whole world? No....]
4348			http://avirubin.com/vote.pdf
4349	root	1.387	%
4350	root	1.123	[http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1210067,00.asp]
4351			So what actually happens when your Windows XP machine crashes and asks
4352			if you want to send a report? The reports obviously accumulate in some
4353			database, and I can only assume that when one bin piles up with similar
4354			crash memos, the coders get to work. Exactly how many notifications does
4355			Microsoft get? Nobody knows for sure, but based on comments Bill Gates
4356			made at a recent meeting for analysts, the number must be astronomical.
4357			Gates said that 5 percent of Windows machines crash, on average, twice
4358			daily.
4359	root	1.387	%
4360	root	1.123	"...vielleicht praktisch manchmal auch mal geraten, das, wenn auch mal..."
4361	root	1.388	[Johann Gärtner, "Die Republikaner" bei einer Fernsehsendung über ihr
4362			Wahlprogramm. Das Zitat ist repräsentativ.]
4363	root	1.387	%
4364	root	1.123	[http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/rbt/condemn_text.htm]
4365			Critics of Congress and APA's concessions have analogized this situation
4366			to that of Galileo. At the APA's annual convention in August 1999 in
4367			Boston, an anonymous source, unknown to us, posted stickers around the
4368			convention that satirically read, "If the US Congress says that 'The sun
4369			revolves around the earth,' then that fact will be given most careful
4370			consideration in all articles published by the APA."
4371	root	1.387	%
4372	root	1.247	"It is insufficient to protect ourselves with laws; we need to protect ourselves with mathematics."
4373	root	1.123	-- Bruce Schneier
4374	root	1.387	%
4375	root	1.123	[it took me over 7 minutes to find this movie again on imdb...]
4376			[...so it must be good]
4377			http://german.imdb.com/title/tt0072131/
4378	root	1.387	%
4379	root	1.123	[mplayer/libmpcodecs/ad_realaud.c]
4380			[real uses a novel protection scheme...]
4381			raSetPwd(sh->context,"Ardubancel Quazanga"); // set password... lol.
4382	root	1.387	%
4383	root	1.120	[D-Info 3/2003 Database Dump]
4384			I've written a script that dumps the D-Info 2003 database as tsv to stdout.
4385			No idea why I announce it here...
4386	root	1.121	http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/data/dump-dinfo
4387	root	1.387	%
4388	root	1.119	[Oh My God!]
4389			Subject: aic7(censored) use after free in 2.5.66
4390	root	1.387	%
4391	root	1.119	[How many squares are on a go-board?]
4392	root	1.118	http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=UTF-8&client=googlet&selm=16394336.74521.15271%40kcbbs.gen.nz&rnum=2
4393	root	1.387	%
4394	root	1.117	[http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,1020303,00.html]
4395			When I first visited Russia, in 1986, I made friends with a musician whose
4396			father had been Brezhnev's personal doctor. One day we were talking about
4397			life during 'the period of stagnation' - the Brezhnev era. 'It must have
4398			been strange being so completely immersed in propaganda,' I said.
4399
4400			'Ah, but there is the difference. We knew it was propaganda,' replied
4401			Sacha.
4402	root	1.387	%
4403	root	1.116	[From CRYPTO-GRAM]
4404			A reader sent in this conversation he overheard at a corporate security
4405			desk one morning:
4406
4407			Employee: I have lost my photo-ID card, can I get a day pass please?
4408
4409			Security Guard: Certainly, what is your serial number?
4410
4411			Employee: 123456
4412
4413			[Security guard pulls up the details on his computer, which includes a
4414			photograph of the employee.]
4415
4416			Security Guard: Do you have a driver's license or another piece of
4417			identification which has your picture on it?
4418
4419			Employee: Why would you need that?
4420
4421			Security Guard: To match against our records.
4422
4423			Employee: A picture of my face?
4424
4425			Security Guard: Yes
4426
4427			Employee: This is my face -- I am wearing it on my head.
4428
4429			Security Guard: I need another piece of ID with a picture on it to
4430			compare against this one.
4431	root	1.387	%
4432	root	1.116	[Voting in the US might be in for surprises in the future]
4433			http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/voting.shtml
4434			[frankly, I don't trust any government if it's easy to fake votes]
4435	root	1.387	%
4436	root	1.116	MS Windows passwords can be cracked in an average of 13.6 seconds.
4437			Assuming your password consists of just letters and numbers, that is. But
4438			my guess is that almost everyone falls into that category.
4439
4440			<http://news.com.com/2100-1009_3-5053063.html>
4441			<http://lasecpc13.epfl.ch/ntcrack/>
4442	root	1.387	%
4443	root	1.123	Eppur si muove!
4444	root	1.387	%
4445	root	1.116	[bwahahaha]
4446			"RV K-17"
4447	root	1.387	%
4448	root	1.116	"We're the world's greatest superpower, but we have a Third World
4449			electricity grid," said New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson.
4450	root	1.387	%
4451	root	1.116	[where NOT to learn german :)]
4452			[http://www.berlitz.at/worldclub/reise-spanisch/]
4453			<= Es ist 10:45 Uhr / viertel vor elf / dreiviertel zehn.
4454			=> Son las once menos cuarto.
4455	root	1.387	%
4456	root	1.115	ceterum censeo carthaginem esse delendam
4457			ceterum censeo mundum non delendum esse
4458	root	1.387	%
4459	root	1.115	[http://www.urheberrecht.org/news/?id=1402&w=&p=1]
4460	root	1.388	Georgia Tornow, Generalsekretärin der Produzentenvereinigung film20 übt
4461			ebenfalls Kritik an der neuen Formulierung. »In anderen Ländern ist
4462	root	1.115	mitunter die Herstellung privater Kopien untersagt. Und in den USA wird
4463	root	1.388	sogar darüber nachgedacht, Geräte zur Kopienherstellung für illegal zu
4464			erklären«, so Tornow laut »blickpunktfilm.de«.
4465	root	1.387	%
4466	root	1.122	http://www.plif.com/archive/wc285.gif
4467	root	1.387	%
4468	root	1.115	[D-Info 2003, on my box:]
4469			Linux-Distribution nicht erkannt. Koennte RedHat sein.
4470	root	1.387	%
4471	root	1.115	[This patch removed the 75 records limit in D-Info 3/2003 linux for me]
4472			[patch dinfo.i386, YMMV]
4473			<00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba 4b00 0000 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
4474			>00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba ffff ff7f 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
4475	root	1.387	%
4476	root	1.115	[bwbasic-2.20pl2/bwbasic.doc]
4477			This program was originally begun in 1982 by my grandmother, Mrs.
4478			Verda Spell of Beaumont, TX. She was writing the program using
4479			an ANSI C compiler on an Osborne I CP/M computer and although my
4480			grandfather (Lockwood Spell) had bought an IBM PC with 256k of
4481			RAM my grandmother would not use it, paraphrasing George Herbert
4482			to the effect that "He who cannot in 64k program, cannot in 512k."
4483			She had used Microsoft BASIC and although she had nothing against
4484			it she said repeatedly that she didn't understand why Digital
4485			Research didn't "sue the socks off of Microsoft" for version 1.0
4486			of MSDOS and so I reckon that she hoped to undercut Microsoft's
4487			entire market and eventually build a new software empire on
4488			the North End of Beaumont. Her programming efforts were cut
4489			tragically short when she was thrown from a Beaumont to Port
4490			Arthur commuter train in the summer of 1986. I found the source
4491			code to bwBASIC on a single-density Osborne diskette in her knitting
4492			bag and eventually managed to have it all copied over to a PC
4493			diskette. I have revised it slightly prior to this release. You
4494			should know, though, that I myself am an historian, not a programmer.
4495	root	1.387	%
4496	root	1.114	[what high dan players in go think while playing:]
4497			"Must kill ... black stones ... black stones ... must die"
4498	root	1.387	%
4499	root	1.114	[the one and only time rcp failed for me, at the very end of the transfer]
4500			rcp: protocol screwup: mtime.sec not delimited
4501	root	1.387	%
4502	root	1.113	[Wasteland]
4503			Lester Moore,
4504			Shot in the head with a .44.
4505			No Les, no more.
4506	root	1.387	%
4507	root	1.113	[SSK@DFpkjvKWA0kGPZUgm9LkJE1jX4cPAgM/MattersPhallic/4//]
4508			Mormon advice on how to abstain from wanking
4509
4510			STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION
4511			[for the rest of this entertaining document see the freesite]
4512	root	1.387	%
4513	root	1.113	[Fallout]
4514			Here lies the body of Jonathan Blake
4515			Stepped on the gas instead of the brake
4516	root	1.387	%
4517	root	1.111	[http://www.counterpane.com/pptpv2-paper.html]
4518			As we will discuss later, multiple layers of hashing are used in the
4519			different steps of MS-CHAPv2. While this hashing serves to obscure some
4520			of the values, it is unclear what the cryptographic significance of them
4521			are. All they seem to do is to slow down the execution of the protocol.
4522	root	1.112	[...]
4523			It is unclear to us why this protocol is so complicated.
4524			[...]
4525			The Server concatenates the password-hash-hash, the 24-byte NT response,
4526			and the literal string "Magic server to client constant", and then hashes
4527			the result with SHA.
4528	root	1.387	%
4529	root	1.388	> Für viele wird interessant sein, dass ich bisher bei jedem Kunden
4530	root	1.111	> rechnerisch nachweisen konnte, dass OpenSource !immer! der teurere Weg
4531			> ist!
4532	root	1.388	Das bedeutet, daß durch Offenlegung des Source Codes eines Produkts
4533			plötzlich höhere Aufwände entstehen? Was für ein Kundensegment betreust
4534	root	1.111	Du denn? Analphabeten?
4535	root	1.387	%
4536	root	1.388	"Der Sun-Forte-Compiler ist näher am C++-Standard als G++"
4537			[Jörg Schilling, CeBit 2003]
4538	root	1.387	%
4539	root	1.109	17:21 <elmex> ok, sex kann ich nicht, aber ich kann vim und Perl ;)
4540	root	1.387	%
4541	root	1.108	[Biggest ping rtt I've ever seen]
4542			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=473 ttl=128 time=779.5 ms
4543			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=474 ttl=128 time=524.1 ms
4544			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=475 ttl=128 time=275.6 ms
4545			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=539 ttl=128 time=656365.4 ms
4546			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=540 ttl=128 time=655365.5 ms
4547	root	1.387	%
4548	root	1.108	[I once used a vped.conf from windows on linux, and then had to:]
4549			tcpdump -eni\\\\.\\{F2CB3DC8-1
4550	root	1.387	%
4551	root	1.107	[links are free ;)]
4552			http://knowthetruth.b0x.com/Bush_Family/Bush_-_Hitler/bush_-_hitler.html
4553	root	1.387	%
4554	root	1.106	[http://pobox.com/~oleg/MacHack96/]
4555			Can software development be elevated from the Microsoft style?
4556	root	1.387	%
4557	root	1.105	[openssl, crypto/evp/evp_enc.c]
4558
4559			/* One positive side-effect of US's export
4560			* control history, is that we should at least
4561			* be able to avoid using US mispellings of
4562			* "initialisation"? */
4563			EVPerr(EVP_F_EVP_CIPHERINIT, EVP_R_INITIALIZATION_ERROR);
4564	root	1.387	%
4565	root	1.105	[man pem]
4566			Although the PEM routines take several arguments in almost all applications most of them are set to 0 or NULL.
4567	root	1.387	%
4568	root	1.105	[pth_native.c]
4569
4570			/* ``If you can't do it in
4571	root	1.247	ANSI C, it isn't worth doing.''
4572	root	1.105	-- Unknown */
4573	root	1.387	%
4574	root	1.104	[subculture]
4575	root	1.388	... scorp sind lucker und use script lamer aber über cheater aufregen
4576			mehr nich und zu fünft in nem raum sitzen und dann public zocken und dann
4577	root	1.104	skillig vorkommen ...
4578
4579			[http://forum.topwebmaster.net/extern/de/Ricoohh/thread/9196-77365]
4580	root	1.424	%
4581	root	1.104	[back to the roots. you might not understand the following, but
4582			this list is about things _I_ find funny, not you... :)]
4583	root	1.247	00:16 <elmex> 'mit windows netzwerk zu debuggen ist ungefaehr so sinnvoll wie eine
4584	root	1.104	gehirnoperation mit einem vorschlaghammer'
4585	root	1.247	00:18 <oesi> elmex: da ich in deinem ignore bin, kann ich ja volltrottel sagen.
4586	root	1.104	ethereal rennt seit jahren unter win32
4587			00:18 <elmex> oesi: ja, aber netzwerk nicht ;)
4588	root	1.387	%
4589	root	1.103	[http://home.rhein-zeitung.de/~cknust/detroit/a-z/medikamt.htm]
4590	root	1.388	... Den Amerikanern sind Zäpfchen ebenso wie rektales Fiebermessen absolut
4591			suspekt; der Verdacht der Kinderschändung steht sofort unausgesprochen im
4592			Raum. Zäpfchen ("Suppositorium") werden allenfalls in der Notfallmedizin
4593	root	1.103	im Krankenhaus verwendet. Haben Sie ein Kind, das an Asthma oder
4594	root	1.388	Pseudo-Krupp-Anfällen leidet, bringen Sie sich einen entsprechenden Vorrat
4595			an Zäpfchen unbedingt mit, erwähnen Sie diese aber, soweit möglich, nicht
4596			vor amerikanischen Ärzten. ...
4597	root	1.387	%
4598	root	1.102	sendmail ist wie masturbation mit einer gurkenraspel, erzeugt viele spaene
4599			aber wenig freude.
4600	root	1.387	%
4601	root	1.102	[from a deviance.nfo, looking for new members, I think it's waaay funny]
4602			- you are a Unix guru with good Ansi-C software developing knowledge
4603			and understanding how to prevent network security vulnerabilities.
4604			That means you must be able to code to ansi-c guru level. And you
4605			must also have a good coder perspective of hostbase and network
4606			based intrusion detection systems. You should be able to code tools
4607			to generically prevent stack and heap buffer overflows on unix in
4608			Ansi-C. And Be able to code tools to look after a group of systems
4609			and code sniffing avoidance tools. And you can configure a system
4610			in ways to prevent packet sniffers and "man in the middle" attacks.
4611	root	1.387	%
4612	root	1.388	17:39 <schmorp> marco: flüge von hannover/dortmund [nach sofia] etc. sind glatt
4613			doppelt so teuer wie die gleichen von stuttgart/münchen/frankfurt
4614	root	1.101	17:39 <marco> schmorp: da wollen zu viele weg und zu wenig hin... also sind die
4615			fluege dort nur halb ausgelastet g
4616	root	1.387	%
4617	root	1.100	For me, this article simply illustrates that centralised trust models
4618			don't work well in practise.
4619			http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/12/09/021209opwinman.xml
4620	root	1.387	%
4621	root	1.99	[Rumsfeld in a CNN interview]
4622			There is an old saying, in the pentagon:
4623			"ready, fire, aim."
4624	root	1.387	%
4625	root	1.98	[...] You're allowed to resell the [windows] media but not the
4626			license. "Unfortunately" for Microsoft, this distinction is illegal in
4627			free countries like Germany [1].
4628			[...]
4629			Regards
4630			Henning
4631
4632			[1] The current german governement is actively trying to change this
4633			part of the german law. That's what you get for electing morons who
4634			might look good on TV. At this point, we're already on U.S. levels.
4635	root	1.387	%
4636	root	1.98	[...]
4637			The GPL does not restrict you. Contrary, it uses copyright law to
4638			establish a pool of software with much more freedom as copyright law gives
4639			to you. It only does not give you so much freedom to deny other people the
4640			same freedoms. The copyright holders can only do so, because copyright law
4641			itself give you none of these rights at all.
4642			[...]
4643			Wolfgang Walter
4644	root	1.387	%
4645	root	1.98	burro: i once played against a computer
4646			burro: it seemed very clever
4647			burro: but then all its groups died in yose
4648			burro: it forgot to defend later..
4649			burro: oops
4650			burro: accidental poetry
4651	root	1.387	%
4652	root	1.98	[about a go game between a pro player and some really good amateur,
4653			where white could have lived easily but decided to risk it]
4654			yoyoma [7k]: white is pro, rather die gloriosly than live in gote with a7!
4655	root	1.387	%
4656	root	1.98	[from the default config of the oh-so-broken unrealircd]
4657			#define BIG_SECURITY_HOLE
4658	root	1.387	%
4659	root	1.98	"In fact the whole of Japan is pure invention. There is no such country, there are no such people."
4660			-- Oscar Wilde
4661	root	1.387	%
4662	root	1.98	[a principle used in florida's law]
4663			"guilty until proven innocent"
4664			[http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/main.htm]
4665	root	1.387	%
4666	root	1.98	Wonderful news! A little Jewish woman, calling Mount Sinai Hospital,
4667			said, "Hello, darling, I'd like to talk with the person who gives the
4668			information regarding your patients. I want to know if the patient is
4669			getting better, or doing like expected, or is getting worse." The voice
4670			on the other end of the line said, "What is the patient's name and room
4671			number?" She said, "Yes, darling! she's Sarah Finkel, in Room 302." He
4672			said, "Oh, yes. Mrs. Finkel is doing very well. In fact, she's had two
4673			full meals, her blood pressure is fine, her blood work just came back
4674			as normal, she's going to be taken off the heart monitor in a couple of
4675			hours and if she continues this improvement, Dr. Cohen is going to send
4676			her home Tuesday at twelve o' clock." The woman said, "Thank God! That's
4677			wonderful! Oh! that's fantastic, darling!... That's wonderful news!" The
4678			man on the phone said, "From your enthusiasm, I take it you must be a
4679			close family member or a very close friend!" She said, "I'm Sarah Finkel
4680			in 302! My doctor doesn't tell me shit!
4681	root	1.387	%
4682	root	1.98	[gcc-3.2/.../sstream>
4683			// NB: Start ostringstream buffers at 512 bytes. This is an
4684			// experimental value (pronounced "arbitrary" in some of the
4685			// hipper english-speaking countries), and can be changed to
4686			// suit particular needs.
4687			_M_buf_size_opt = 512;
4688	root	1.387	%
4689	root	1.98	[members.aon.at/paulinchen/advtex/sanitar.htm]
4690			[Walkthrough SANITARIUM]
4691			... Deshalb suchst du erneut den Wassertempel auf. ... Dort haust du als
4692	root	1.388	Grimwall den Lukas ... Darauf hin öffnet der Clown seinen Mund und du
4693	root	1.98	kannst als Olmec die Melodie ...
4694	root	1.387	%
4695	root	1.97	[Onibaba - Great Movie]
4696			http://us.imdb.com/Title?0058430
4697	root	1.387	%
4698	root	1.97	[Kuroneko - I'd like to see :(]
4699			http://us.imdb.com/Title?0122136
4700	root	1.387	%
4701	root	1.96	[<Sesse> microsoft finally takes security seriously]
4702			[http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q276304]
4703			Error Message: Your Password Must Be at Least 18770 Characters and Cannot Repeat Any of Your Previous 30689 Passwords
4704	root	1.387	%
4705	root	1.96	GNU Emacs kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 11.300
4706			vi - Editor. Kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 2.333
4707	root	1.388	XML für Dummies. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 225.881
4708			JavaScript für Dummies. Dynamische Websites selbst gemacht. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 24.576
4709	root	1.387	%
4710	root	1.96	[http://kyushu.com/gleaner/editorspick/seppuku.shtml]
4711
4712			[...] Obviously you have to decide well in advance why you are doing
4713			[seppuku] [...] Resistance, remonstrance, show of loyalty, affirmation of
4714			the correctness of one's own position, expiation of a crime and the wiping
4715			out of disgrace are all perfectly good reasons; being refused a work visa
4716			is not [...]
4717	root	1.387	%
4718	root	1.247	Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd
4719	root	1.95	all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
4720			repetitive electronic music." --Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
4721	root	1.387	%
4722	root	1.94	[some hilights from:]
4723			[http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/Fachbegriffe.der.Informatik.html]
4724
4725	root	1.388	_Einfach erklärt_
4726	root	1.94
4727			GUI
4728			Ein Hintergrundbild und 12 Xterms
4729			Globale Variable
4730	root	1.388	Parameterübergabemechanismus in 4GLs
4731	root	1.94	objektorientiert
4732			Den Code habe ich von meinem Vorgaenger geerbt.
4733			strukturiert
4734			dieses Programm besteht aus mehreren Funktionen
4735			Multithreaded
4736	root	1.388	Wir mußten ein Flußdiagramm malen, um es zu debuggen.
4737	root	1.94	Windows 95
4738	root	1.388	Das Fortran 77 der Benutzungsoberflächen
4739	root	1.94	Emacs
4740	root	1.388	Ich habe ja auch nie bezweifelt, daß emacs ein tolles Betriebssystem
4741			ist. Aber um mit Linux oder Windows konkurrieren zu können, fehlt ihm
4742			ein vernünftiger Editor.
4743	root	1.94	IPv6
4744			$ telnet hundehalsband.georg.hunde.sonnenstrasse.muenchen.de
4745			Trying 942884947298374923847982472983. 2398749874987249247.
4746			2398472372349. 3249782374927898324. 2987238479874987398634.
4747			2987428901171209471. 23987432923. 23478987923.
4748	root	1.388	Die fünf Sinne des C++-Programmierers
4749			Der Schwachsinn, der Blödsinn, der Wahnsinn, der Unsinn und der Stumpfsinn.
4750	root	1.247	PHP
4751	root	1.388	Meine C-64-Basic-Übungen hat niemand zu Gesicht bekommen, während die
4752	root	1.94	in PHP verbrochenen Laufstall-Verunfallungen heutiger Milchgesichter
4753	root	1.388	die Welt verpesten und womöglich von Schlipstraeger-Deppen als
4754			e-Commerce-Lösung gekauft worden sind.
4755	root	1.247	Alleinstellungsmerkmal
4756	root	1.94	Bunt.
4757	root	1.388	Plattformunabhängig
4758			Wenn Du GWBASIC im Dos-Emulator laufen läßt bist Du auch
4759			plattformunabhängig! Du brauchst nur einen Dos-Emulator!
4760	root	1.95	[94: Copyright left out, too long, see original url]
4761	root	1.387	%
4762	root	1.93	[logic & fallacies]
4763			http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html
4764	root	1.387	%
4765	root	1.93	http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/library/wonderful/index.php
4766	root	1.387	%
4767	root	1.93	[nah]
4768			In the Arthur Penn film "Night Moves," someone asks Gene Hackman for an
4769			appraisal of Eric Rohmer's work, to which he replies, "it's like watching
4770			paint dry."
4771	root	1.387	%
4772	root	1.92	http://www2.psy.uq.edu.au/~jay/papers/thesis.pdf
4773			http://home.attbi.com/~bglodis/htmf/AI2-GO2.htm
4774			http://newyork.villageworld.com/users/bradleym/index.htm
4775	root	1.387	%
4776	root	1.178	[Keith Packard about some design holes in X that lead to XRender]
4777	root	1.91	The rules themselves may be broken, but their existence is of vital
4778			importance.
4779	root	1.387	%
4780	root	1.91	[http://cbbrowne.com/info/xpersonal.html]
4781			[_very_ good pages, read them all!]
4782			Many things have been hacked onto Win32; unfortunately, actually using
4783			Windows-based facilities has two massive detrimental effects:
4784
4785			You have to trust Microsoft.
4786
4787			There are a number of things that I would trust Microsoft with. I trust
4788			Microsoft to continue to release buggy software such as the Windows 98
4789			release that needed patches to survive to 1999, let alone 2000. I trust
4790			Microsoft to continue to release software that gets more bloated such
4791			that it requires as much memory as systems can support just to support
4792			useless chrome.
4793
4794			But control over whether my code will continue to be usable next year
4795			whether due to technical or licensing changes is not one of the things
4796			I'd like to trust them with.
4797	root	1.93	[...]
4798	root	1.387	%
4799	root	1.91	[when choosing "About" from the mozilla menu]
4800			[now, which OS let's us enjoy similar error messages all the time? ;)]
4801			XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
4802			Location: jar:resource:///chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/global/about.xhtml
4803			Line Number 90, Column 15:
4804	root	1.247	<li>Copyright © 1998-2002 by <a href="about:credits">Contributors</a> to
4805	root	1.91	--------------^
4806	root	1.387	%
4807	root	1.91	[from the kanon 10% english translation patch README]
4808			[http://haeleth.port5.com/]
4809			A Japanese effect not found in English is the wonderful verbless sentence,
4810			which I like so much that I've translated a few literally. I do know
4811			English grammar, I assure you.
4812	root	1.387	%
4813	root	1.91	Giant hornets regularly attack beehives. Typically, an attack begins when
4814			a single hornet captures a lone bee nearby the hive. After several of
4815			these perimeter skirmishes, one hornet leaves a marking pheromone at the
4816			hive's entrance. This pheromone attracts the other hornets, who arrive
4817			en masse and attack the beehive. The bees' stingers can't penetrate the
4818			hornets' armor, so it's a one-sided slaughter; something like 30,000 bees
4819			can be killed in a few hours by 30-40 hornets.
4820
4821			Japanese honeybees, however, have evolved an interesting defensive
4822			strategy. When a hornet marks the hive's entrance, the bees guarding the
4823			entrance return to the hive and wait for the attacking hornets. This has
4824			the effect of luring the first attacking hornets into the hive, rather
4825			than allowing them to start their attack outside. Simultaneously, over
4826			1000 worker bees in the hive leave the combs and mass just inside the
4827			hive's entrance. When a hornet tries to enter the hive, the workers
4828			surround it, forming a ball of bodies, and cook it to death with their
4829			body heat. The bees also release a pheromone that draws ever more bees
4830			from the hive's interior to come to the entrance and defend the nest.
4831
4832			This strategy must be perfect in order to be successful. If the bees fail
4833			in killing the first hornet attackers, then the hornet pheromone gets
4834			stronger, and more hornets arrive to reinforce their attack. By sheer
4835			numbers, the hornets can overpower the bees.
4836
4837			Source: Bernd Heinrich, "The Thermal Warriors: Strategies of Insect
4838			Survival," Harvard University Press, 1996.
4839	root	1.387	%
4840	root	1.91	[http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/csrss-backspace-bug.html]
4841			[fixed in latest service packs, but still funny ;)]
4842			The following neat little program, when compiled and run, will completely
4843			crash XP (and any earlier version of NT) (when I ran it, XP rebooted). I
4844			don't recommend you really try this program, but if you do, save all your
4845			work etc first:
4846
4847			#include <stdio.h>
4848
4849			int main (void) {
4850			while (1)
4851			printf ("\t\t\b\b\b\b\b\b");
4852
4853			return 0;
4854			}
4855	root	1.387	%
4856	root	1.91	[you might point your windows-using-friends to this page, it
4857			contains a lot of funny FUD ;)]
4858	root	1.90	http://www.hevanet.com/peace/microsoft.htm
4859	root	1.387	%
4860	root	1.90	[http://eros.cs.jhu.edu/~shap/NT-EAL4.html]
4861			Security experts have been saying for years that the the security of
4862			the Windows family of products is hopelessly inadequate. Now there is a
4863			rigorous government certification confirming this.
4864	root	1.387	%
4865	root	1.89	[mms_client after finishing the download]
4866			everything done. Thank you for downloading a media file containing
4867			proprietary and patentend technology.
4868	root	1.387	%
4869	root	1.88	I wouldn't want to win the Steven Spielberg Award - he is an amateur!
4870	root	1.388	-- Aki Kaurismäki
4871	root	1.387	%
4872	root	1.87	[http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/godel.html]
4873	root	1.388	"The Gödelian structure of the unity of levels of Reality associated
4874	root	1.87	with the logic of the included middle implies that it is impossible to
4875			construct a complete theory for describing the passage from one level to
4876			the other and, a fortiori, for describing the unity of levels of Reality."
4877	root	1.387	%
4878	root	1.388	1. Das von den Parteien eingeführte Listenwahlrecht verstößt gegen
4879			Art. 38, Abs. 1, Satz 1 Grundgesetz (GG): »Die Abgeordneten des Deutschen
4880	root	1.87	Bundestages werden in allgemeiner, unmittelbarer, freier, gleicher und
4881	root	1.388	geheimer Wahl gewählt.« Danach muß es dem Bürger möglich sein, seinen
4882			Abgeordneten unmittelbar zu wählen. Die Wahl von Parteienlisten ist also
4883	root	1.87	verfassungswidrig, nicht zuletzt deshalb, weil hierbei Kandidaten zum Zuge
4884	root	1.388	kommen, die der Listenwähler nicht wählen will.
4885	root	1.87
4886	root	1.388	2. Der Fraktionszwang verstößt ebenfalls gegen das Grundgesetz. Satz
4887			2 des Art. 38, Abs. 1, lautet nämlich: »Sie (die Abgeordneten) sind
4888			Vertreter des ganzen Volkes, an Aufträge und Weisungen nicht gebunden
4889			und nur ihrem Gewissen unterworfen.« Wenn Fraktionsvorsitzende den frei
4890			gewählten Abgeordneten einer Fraktionsdisziplin unterwerfen (und das noch
4891			unter Androhung von Sanktionen), erteilen sie Weisungen darüber, wie die
4892	root	1.87	Abgeordneten der Partei abzustimmen haben. Es handelt sich dann um eine
4893			Form fraktionsinternen imperativen Mandats.
4894
4895	root	1.388	3. Die überbordende Staatsverschuldung (vor allem im Bund) verstößt gegen
4896			Art. 115 des GG. Darin heißt es in Abs. 1, Satz 2: »Die Einnahmen aus
4897			Krediten dürfen die Summe der im Haushaltsplan veranschlagten Ausgaben für
4898			Investitionen nicht überschreiten; Ausnahmen sind nur zulässig zur Abwehr
4899			einer Störung des gesamtwirtschaftlichen Gleichgewichts.« Unter Fachleuten
4900			besteht nicht der geringste Zweifel, daß das vorgeschriebene Kreditlimit
4901			(Höhe der »Ausgaben für Investitionen«) durch Haushaltstricks sträflich
4902			überschritten wurde. Die Folge: Im Jahre 2001 erreichte die Verschuldung
4903			der Gebietskörperschaften die unvorstellbare Höhe von 1.210 Mrd. Euro (im
4904			Bund: 700 Mrd. Euro); das sind 79 Prozent des jährlichen Volkseinkommens
4905	root	1.87	von 1.531 Mrd. Euro.
4906	root	1.387	%
4907	root	1.87	[just FMI (for my information)]
4908			http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7eflavell/charset/form-i18n.html
4909	root	1.387	%
4910	root	1.87	[perldoc perlboot]
4911			Typically, each @ISA has only one element (multiple elements means
4912			multiple inheritance and multiple headaches)
4913	root	1.387	%
4914	root	1.87	[I find that all this stallman-bashing is a sure sign that that
4915			"linux" thing will fail]
4916			In lists.linux.kernel.development, Larry McVoy wrote:
4917			[...]
4918	root	1.247	Richard Stallman started the free software foundation. He built the
4919	root	1.87	compiler, library and zillions of other tools that developers use on a day
4920			to day basis. He slept at the offices of MIT while he spent his time,
4921			effort and money building up the Free Software Foundation.
4922
4923			Though many people differ with him on a wide variety of issues, he
4924			deserves respect from all because he has devoted twenty years of his
4925			life to the public good.
4926
4927			You, on the other hand, develop and sell a proprietary software product.
4928			You convinced a large number of kernel developers (most importantly
4929			Linus himself) to use your proprietary product to develop free software,
4930			so that you could tell potential customers "Gee! Look how great my
4931			software is! It's used to develop the linux kernel!"
4932
4933			You don't care about free software Larry. You're just glad that you have
4934			a poster child to display your effort. Want proof? Look at how you have
4935			treated numerous kernel developers when you found out that they worked
4936			on free software projects that could potentially compete with your
4937			software some day -- you revoke their "free" license to use your
4938			software to work on the linux kernel!
4939
4940			Richard is trying to change the world into a better place. You, however,
4941			are trying to get rich, and you're using free software as a stepping
4942			stone to promote your proprietary software. Nothing wrong with getting
4943			rich of course -- I'd love to be rich too. But you certainly don't
4944			deserve to be lumped into the same group as RMS.
4945	root	1.387	%
4946	root	1.86	[perldoc perlreftut]
4947	root	1.247	What does line 4 do here?
4948			[...]
4949			This is Perl, so it does the exact right thing.
4950	root	1.387	%
4951	root	1.86	[perldoc perlreftut]
4952			Think of the President of the United States: a messy, inconvenient bag of
4953			blood and bones. But to talk about him, or to represent him in a computer
4954			program, all you need is the easy, convenient scalar string "George Bush".
4955	root	1.387	%
4956	root	1.86	[rise and fall of free software standards]
4957	root	1.247	* GNU Gettext and %expect
4958			GNU Gettext asserts 10 s/r conflicts, but there are 7. Now that
4959			Bison dies on incorrect %expectations, we fear there will be
4960			too many bug reports for Gettext, so _for the time being_, %expect
4961			does not trigger an error when the input file is named `plural.y'.
4962	root	1.387	%
4963	root	1.86	Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers.
4964			-- Leonard Brandwein
4965	root	1.387	%
4966	root	1.85	[11:57] <schmorp> email@wanadoo.fr
4967	root	1.247	[11:57] <schmorp> you know what wannados are?
4968			[11:58] <Arvoreen> the french pendant of aol users ??
4969			[11:58] <schmorp> nope
4970			[11:58] <Arvoreen> then no clue
4971			[11:58] <schmorp> "people who fail before they even try"
4972			[12:00] <Zeograd> wanadoo was actually named following this idea, sigh
4973			[12:00] <schmorp> not really, yes?
4974			[12:00] <Zeograd> yes
4975			[12:00] <schmorp> ;);)
4976			[12:03] <schmorp> that "yes" sounded really painful
4977			[12:03] <Zeograd> more than you could imagine :)
4978	root	1.387	%
4979	root	1.247	[11:37] <Arvoreen> Oui mon francais est un peu
4980			[11:38] <Zeograd> Arvoreen: not bad, it doesn't mean much but it sounds french :)
4981	root	1.387	%
4982	root	1.84	A Russian hacker was sentenced to three years in prison here in the
4983			United States for breaking computer crime laws here. It's an
4984			interesting story. He was in Russia at the time, and broke no laws in
4985			his country. However, the U.S. prosecution broke Russian laws to
4986			collect evidence against him. The judge agreed with the FBI's
4987			assertion that Russian law didn't apply to them. Isn't international
4988			jurisprudence fun?
4989			<http://in.tech.yahoo.com/021005/137/1w2bq.html>
4990	root	1.387	%
4991	root	1.247	[02:58] <Sesse> microsoft finally gets it:
4992			[02:58] <Sesse> Visual Basic .NET delivers the feature most requested by existing Visual Basic
4993			[02:58] <Sesse> developers--fewer bugs in the code they write.
4994	root	1.84	[...]
4995	root	1.247	[03:00] <Sesse> "VB programmers have finally found out they lack talent, and blame Microsoft" ;-)
4996	root	1.387	%
4997	root	1.84	[found at www.imdb.com]
4998			the trouble with the global village are all the global village idiots.
4999			- Paul Ginsparg.
5000	root	1.387	%
5001	root	1.84	prionbrain: A joke I just read: " A girl phoned me the other day and
5002			said, .. come on over, there's nobody home. I went over. There was nobody
5003			home.":))
5004			[erm...]
5005	root	1.387	%
5006	root	1.84	> described above, CONFIG_XBOX_SUPPORT will depend on CONFIG_PCI.
5007
5008	root	1.247	Which seems fair enough. ISA bus X-box systems are suprisingly rare
5009	root	1.387	%
5010	root	1.247	[05:06] <elmex> windows has 2 left hands when it comes to being an OS
5011	root	1.387	%
5012	root	1.83	[http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/mml/mduerst/papers/PDF/IUC11-UTF-8.pdf]
5013
5014			[...] In particular, the following behaviour proposed or observed in some
5015			implementations is not UTF-8 and should never be presented as such. First,
5016			UTF16 surrogate pairs could be encoded in UTF-8 as two sequences of 3
5017			bytes each (this behaviour is observed in some Java implementations).
5018	root	1.387	%
5019	root	1.83	.+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+''
5020			/ \ / \ / \ / \ /
5021			.+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+'
5022	root	1.387	%
5023	root	1.82	From: "David S. Miller"
5024	root	1.83
5025			> Then shouldn't the thing thats different from the norm be programmed into a header file which contains how certain functions should be+++
5026	root	1.82
5027			If I gave you a dollar, would you go out and buy some newlines
5028			to use in future emails?
5029	root	1.387	%
5030	root	1.82	Could somebody drag the Irix team kicking and screaming into the 1980's,
5031			please?
5032
5033			I realize it might be quite painful for them, but maybe you could buy them
5034			a disco tape, so they'd feel a little bit more at home.
5035
5036	root	1.247	Linus "Stayin' alive, stayin' alive" Torvalds
5037	root	1.387	%
5038	root	1.82	Yesterday, the local Brazilian authorities signed a decree stating that the
5039			Brazilian daylight saving period will start on November 3rd 2002 and will
5040			last until February 16th 2003.
5041
5042			So, clocks will be set one hour forward on November 3rd (12:00 a.m. will be
5043			changed to 1:00 a.m.) and at midnight (0:00 am) on February 16th, Brazil
5044			will adjust its clocks back one hour (23:00 pm on Feb 15th) marking the
5045			end.
5046
5047			The reason for the delay this year has to do with elections in Brazil.
5048
5049			Unlike in the United States, elections in Brazil are 100% computerized and
5050			the results are known almost immediately. Yesterday, it was the first
5051			round of the elections when 115 million Brazilians voted for President,
5052			Governor, Senators, Federal Deputies, and State Deputies. Nobody is
5053			counting (or re-counting) votes anymore and we know there will be a second
5054			round for the Presidency and also for some Governors. The 2nd round will
5055			take place on October 27th.
5056
5057			The reason why the DST will only begin November 3rd is that the thousands
5058			of electoral machines used cannot have their time changed, and since the
5059			Constitution says the elections must begin at 8:00 AM and end at 5:00 PM ,
5060			the Government decided to postpone DST, instead of changing the
5061			Constitution (maybe, for the next elections, it will be possible to change
5062			the clock)...
5063	root	1.387	%
5064	root	1.81	[boycot your enemies]
5065			> We're a business. We're a business which happens to be committed to
5066			> helping the kernel team because we think that the kernel is vital to the
5067			> world at large. Helping the kernel absolutely does not translate to
5068			> helping people who happen to be our competitors. By your own
5069
5070			Stop lying. Your job is to make lots of money and you are using Linux as
5071			cheap advertising. You are trying to make people pay you to do kernel
5072			development (as it stands you want $5000 for any bk-using developer inside
5073			RedHat and SuSE).
5074
5075			I hope your company dies ASAP and bitkeeper stops poisoning air here.
5076
5077			Pavel
5078	root	1.387	%
5079	root	1.81	Rik
5080	root	1.247	--
5081	root	1.81	A: No.
5082			Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?
5083	root	1.387	%
5084	root	1.81	> Incidently unlimited permission is granted to use disks containing only
5085	root	1.247	> GNU/Linux software as footballs without royalties. All other usage of
5086			> disks as footballs will be considered on a per case basis.
5087	root	1.81
5088			I would be inclined to allow this for Windows drives instead. They contain
5089			no useful data.
5090
5091	root	1.247	--
5092	root	1.81	bill davidsen
5093	root	1.387	%
5094	root	1.80	In the switching software (written in C)
5095			there was a long do..while construct,
5096			which contained a switch statement,
5097			which contained an if clause,
5098			which contained a break,
5099			which was intended for the if clause,
5100			but instead broke from the switch statement.
5101
5102			- Network message explaining the breakdown of the AT&T long-distance
5103			network January 15, 1990
5104	root	1.387	%
5105	root	1.80	[From "password retrieval policies" of some irc network:]
5106
5107	root	1.247	They are likely to continue asking for the password, even after you have
5108			told them that it has been E-Mailed. /Ignore the stupid user. /Kick the
5109			stupid user. Do not /Kill the stupid user, since being stupid is not a
5110			violation of network policies.
5111	root	1.80
5112			[the same document, explaining K:Lines]
5113
5114			K:Lines - These lines define which clients are not allowed to connect.
5115			The format is as follows:
5116
5117			K:*.aol.com:AOL sucks:lamer
5118	root	1.387	%
5119	root	1.79	[Microsoft's Craig Mundie on security.]
5120			"People confuse 'security' and Trustworthy Computing."
5121			http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/features/2002/feb02/02-20mundieqa.asp
5122	root	1.387	%
5123	root	1.79	http://staging.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/09/05/020905hnmssecure.xml
5124			"I'm not proud," [Brian] Valentine [senior vice president in charge of
5125			Microsoft's Windows development team] said, as he spoke to a crowd of
5126			developers here at the company's Windows .Net Server developer
5127			conference. "We really haven't done everything we could to protect our
5128			customers ... Our products just aren't engineered for security."
5129			...
5130			"If you go back a few years, unless you were working on login at
5131			Microsoft, you really didn't worry about security. The risk wasn't worth
5132			the effort."
5133	root	1.387	%
5134	root	1.79	http://www.satirewire.com/news/aug02/encryption.shtml
5135	root	1.387	%
5136	root	1.79	[please bear with me and understand that I didn't intend to drive
5137			gay people mad at me with this one...]
5138	root	1.78	[10:16] <pixelpapst> Wenn man ihn mal mit so 'nem richtigen Bilderbuch-Schwulen wie
5139	root	1.247	Lukas vergleicht :)
5140			[10:16] <elmex> Lukas is net schwul, er is Consultant
5141	root	1.387	%
5142	root	1.76	http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/tenseg1.html
5143	root	1.387	%
5144	root	1.76	http://24.86.132.253/090101/feature/feature.htm
5145	root	1.387	%
5146	root	1.76	I maintain a /bin/ps that supports BSD, SysV, and Gnu syntax all at the
5147			same time. It requires Linux. This one works; the Red Hat one is broken.
5148			[Albert Cahalan]
5149	root	1.387	%
5150	root	1.75	The Berkeley shell csh is reasonably well known and widely used and its
5151			externals have been subject to some criticism. The internals of csh are at
5152			least as bad, but lesser known.
5153	root	1.387	%
5154	root	1.75	There are billions of different ways of parsing argv, the list of command
5155			line arguments passed to a C program. The problem is that they are all
5156			different.
5157	root	1.387	%
5158	root	1.75	A common disease in programs written at Berkeley is to open /dev/kmem and grub the load averages out by the dirtiest means possible.
5159	root	1.387	%
5160	root	1.76	[no, I still don't like bondage & discipline]
5161			http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/~geldridg/eiffel/liberty/meyer-bertrand/java/bm-2nd.html
5162	root	1.387	%
5163	root	1.74	[about the early CD-R dyes]
5164			The early, immature media caused some interesting problems. A certain
5165			popular Technics CD player, often used in radio stations, had a bad habit
5166			of accepting the early media, but refusing to eject it, causing much
5167			consternation to disc jockeys who were left without a player and possibly
5168			without a show.
5169	root	1.387	%
5170	root	1.76	[more of a timestamp]
5171	root	1.73	"SANS, SOUCI"
5172	root	1.387	%
5173	root	1.72	http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/canthappen.html
5174	root	1.387	%
5175	root	1.71	The Ten Commandments for C Programmers
5176			http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/commandments.html
5177	root	1.387	%
5178	root	1.71	[Bruce Schneier]
5179			A bill introduced into Congress gives copyright holders -- that's the RIAA,
5180			the MPAA, and similar guys -- the right to break into people's computers if
5181	root	1.247	they have a reasonable basis to believe that copyright infringement is
5182	root	1.71	going on.
5183			[...]
5184	root	1.247	People they choose to target would be deemed guilty until proven
5185			otherwise. In short, this bill would set up the entertainment industry
5186			as a Gestapo-like enforcement agency with no oversight.
5187	root	1.387	%
5188	root	1.70	[06:20] <Draxxon> BTW, (being from the USA) If pro is the grammatical
5189			opposite of con, then the opposite of "progress" would be... "Congress"???
5190	root	1.387	%
5191	root	1.247	You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
5192	root	1.387	%
5193	root	1.69	http://www29.compaq.com/falco/detail.asp?FAQnum=FAQ2859
5194	root	1.387	%
5195	root	1.69	[practical go humor]
5196			Lantu: ok any suggestions for good practical jokes to play on Pro's? :]
5197			id: Make a line of five stones, yell "Pente", and insist you've won.
5198	root	1.387	%
5199	root	1.68	[windows API rocks]
5200			The FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS enumeration type defines values that are used with
5201			the FindFirstFileEx function to specify the information level of the
5202			returned data.
5203
5204	root	1.247	typedef enum _FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS {
5205			FindExInfoStandard
5206			} FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS ;
5207	root	1.387	%
5208	root	1.388	[Arvoreen philosophiert über die Verkleinerung von GNOME mit strip]
5209	root	1.67	[05:10] <Arvoreen> 153MB gestripped und vorher 541MB
5210			[05:13] <Arvoreen> oder wie der Wirtschaftswissenschaftler sagen wuerde um 354%
5211	root	1.247	kleiner ;-)))))) (die haben ja die prozente oberhalb von 100 erfunden)
5212	root	1.387	%
5213	root	1.66	[Microsoft documents how file types are detected in IE. No wonder
5214			it doesn't work:]
5215			1. If the "suggested" (server-provided) MIME type is unknown (not
5216			known and not ambiguous), FindMimeFromData immediately returns
5217			this MIME type as the final determination.
5218	root	1.387	%
5219	root	1.65	[freshmeat. And this release even adds ANOTHER codepage. I am impressed]
5220
5221			Recode 0.1.1
5222			by Eugene V. Chernyshev - Friday, June 28th 2002 01:58 EDT
5223
5224			About: Recode is a fast Russian codepage translator. It translates between
5225			three different codepages: DOS 866, Windows CP-1251, and UNIX KOI8-R.
5226
5227			Changes: This release adds an ISO-8859-5 codepage.
5228	root	1.387	%
5229	root	1.65	http://www.tmk.com/ftp/humor/computer-error-messages.txt
5230	root	1.387	%
5231	root	1.64	$S=eval'sub{eval"sub{%S}"}';$S->({});
5232	root	1.387	%
5233	root	1.64	[From CRYPTO-GRAM]
5234
5235			Microsoft's "Trustworthy Computing" initiative seems to be
5236			just a scam so the company can avoid antitrust remedies by
5237			claiming that opening their systems is a security risk. Pity.
5238			<http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s=701%26a=26605,00.asp>
5239			<http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D701%2526a%253D26875,00.asp>
5240			A comment on Slashdot sums it up best: "Microsoft has therefore taken
5241			the position that their code is so bad that it must be kept secret to
5242			keep people from being killed by it. Windows -- the Pinto of the 21st
5243			century."
5244
5245			Most interesting of the two articles above is the second eWeek article,
5246			where Microsoft's Allchin mentions "at least one protocol and two APIs
5247			that it plans to withhold from public disclosure under the security
5248			carve-out." The protocol is Message Queuing. Apparently, Microsoft
5249			has discovered a security flaw in the Message Queuing protocol so bad
5250			that can't be fixed without breaking existing applications. So, until
5251			such time as they can field a backwards-compatible fix, they're going
5252			to hope no one else discovers it. (This is not a wholly unreasonable
5253			decision; security researchers have made the same decision in the
5254			past.) Of course, Allchin has undermined this decision by publicly
5255			naming the protocol. That's more than enough for someone sufficiently
5256			motivated to find the flaw. In the classified world, you can get your
5257			clearance pulled for blabbing like that. Jim Allchin's testimony:
5258			<http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/trial/mswitness/2002/allchin.asp>
5259
5260			At the same time, Microsoft tries to convince the Pentagon that open source
5261			software threatens security, and using proprietary Microsoft software is
5262			much safer (and better for the economy, to boot). This article is
5263			hilarious in light of the above.
5264			<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60050-2002May22.html>
5265
5266			A report on something called a Tactical Web Page, which purports to be a
5267			secret combat Web site, through which American commanders in the United
5268			States can direct troops in Afghanistan. My favorite quote: "'There have
5269			been a few instances when unidentified computers have tried to get in, in
5270			which case we throw up additional firewalls,' Lt. Col. Bryan Dyer
5271			said." Is it just me, or does Lt. Col. Dyer come from I-Don't-Get-It Land?
5272			<http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,52861,00.html>
5273
5274			Yet more comments from the clueless. In response to the report that
5275			someone hacked into Experian's database and stole 13,000 credit-card
5276			numbers, a PR flack said: "Our files are protected by state-of-the-art,
5277			Star Wars-style security and encryption technology."
5278	root	1.65	<http://www.lendingintelligence.com/news.ez?viewStory=1123&Form.sess_id=845521234&Form.sess_key=1022430845>
5279	root	1.387	%
5280	root	1.64	http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,52901,00.html
5281	root	1.387	%
5282	root	1.388	ich: ich hätte gerne ein nummernschild in unna: "un-ix 123"
5283			zotan: sei froh, daß du nicht in wiesbaden wohnst: "wi-n 95"
5284	root	1.387	%
5285	root	1.63	"There are two ways of constructing a piece of software: One is to make it
5286			so simple that there are obviously no errors, and the other is to make it
5287			so complicated that there are no obvious errors."
5288
5289			Tony Hoare
5290	root	1.387	%
5291	root	1.388	Nach dem Gesetz über Einheiten im Meßwesen vom 2. Juli 1969 in der Fassung
5292			vom 22. Februar 1985 dürfte Word im geschäftlichen und amtlichen Verkehr
5293	root	1.63	_nicht_ eingesetzt werden, da es mit dem Punkt eine nicht-SI-konforme
5294	root	1.388	Maßeinheit verwendet.
5295	root	1.387	%
5296	root	1.63	From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5297
5298			[...]
5299			The Nforce is basically completely unsupported by 2.2. It is mostly unsupported
5300			by 2.4. The networking built into the chipset is not supported by either
5301			system. Basically its windows computer
5302	root	1.387	%
5303	root	1.63	[go figure...]
5304	root	1.247	<JanMan> read(3, 0x8102cc8, 32768) = -1 ESRCH (No such process)
5305	root	1.387	%
5306	root	1.63	Subject: Re: Off topic: Solaris 9 announced, a lot of Linux incorporated
5307
5308			> In today's world of heterogeneous computing, compatibility leads
5309			> to efficiency. Combining the Linux community with thousands of
5310			> Solaris software developers and nearly three million Java and XML
5311			> software developers...
5312
5313			Homeopathic approach to software development?
5314	root	1.387	%
5315	root	1.63	> > Patch is severely broken in its current form, not only for the
5316			> > reasons you stated, but also because of its inability to handle
5317			> > renaming in any sane way. I want a patch --sane option.
5318			>
5319			> I bet BitKeeper gets it right... ;-) ;-) ;-)
5320
5321			Funny you should mention that, since Bitkeeper has embarrassed itself pretty
5322			badly with respect to patches, so far.
5323
5324			- Somebody decided to add another level on top of the linux root directory
5325			in their source directory. I can't import patches into that.
5326
5327			- I can apply patches to bitkeeper repository using the normal 'patch',
5328			but Bitkeeper gets its revenge later, as each bk edit command starts
5329			off by throwing away the patch.
5330
5331			Given the hype, I expected more. I want a tool to save work for me, not
5332			create new work. I don't think I'll be using Bitkeeper as a substitute for
5333			patch any time soon.
5334
5335			--
5336			Daniel
5337	root	1.387	%
5338	root	1.62	From: "Miquel van Smoorenburg" <miquels@cistron.nl>
5339			Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 23:18:34 +0000 (UTC)
5340			[...]
5341			Bummer, I'm using Debian, and iostat is in woody (frozen, about to
5342			be released) - that means Debian users will have to wait to the
5343			next release, another two years perhaps, before iostat gets working.
5344	root	1.387	%
5345	root	1.62	[no comments ;)]
5346
5347			I've installed kernel 2.5.15 (should include aio support) an libaio (0.3.7).
5348			It seams that libaio.so depends on libredhat-kernel.so.1. Why?
5349			Is it realy needed?
5350	root	1.387	%
5351	root	1.62	[W. Richard Stevens about the 3.2 streams "poll" function:]
5352
5353			int poll(struct pollfd *fdarray, unsigned long nfds, int timeout);
5354
5355			[...] The number of elements in the array of structures [...] is
5356			specified by the nfds argument. (Why this argument is specified as
5357			an unsigned long integer, and not a simple integer, is perplexing.)
5358	root	1.387	%
5359	root	1.62	[www.intel.com]
5360			Over 70 Internet Streaming Single Instruction Multiple Data (SIMD)
5361			extensions enhance streaming multimedia and graphics applications, both on
5362			the hard drive and over the Internet. With SIMD, audio and video
5363			download faster, with clearer sound quality, deeper color and resolution,
5364			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
5365			and enlarged images with smoother frame rates.
5366	root	1.387	%
5367	root	1.61	From: Alexander Viro
5368
5369			On Thu, 9 May 2002, Tomas Szepe wrote:
5370			> > I did quite a bit of this work for CML2 - bus dependencies can be
5371			> > found in the CML2 sources.
5372			>
5373			> Btw, what happened to CML2?
5374
5375			This is an ex-parrot
5376	root	1.387	%
5377	root	1.61	From: David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>
5378
5379			> > It doesn't have to be an O(n lg(n)) method but could you use something
5380			> > besides bubblesort? Insertion sort, selection sort, etc. are just as
5381			> > easy and they don't have the horrific stigma of being "the worst sorting
5382			> > algorithm ever" etc.
5383			>
5384			> Surely the worst (working) sort is randomsort? (Check if sorted. If not,
5385			> pick two entries at random, exchange, retry.)
5386
5387			I've always been a fan of bit-decay sort.
5388
5389			while (!sorted(data))
5390			;
5391	root	1.387	%
5392	root	1.61	Subject: Re: Bitkeeper licence issues
5393			From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5394
5395			> This should be a reflex for someone with such a Sun heritage like you...
5396
5397			You obviously never used SunOS4. Its a bit before security became relevant
5398			to computing
5399	root	1.387	%
5400	root	1.61	From: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
5401
5402			On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:05:39 -0500, joeja@mindspring.com wrote:
5403			>What limits the number of threads one can have on a Linux system?
5404
5405			Common sense, one would hope.
5406	root	1.387	%
5407	root	1.61	From: Toon Moene
5408			[...]
5409
5410			Obviously, the only way I could support this effort is by rewriting the
5411			backend to use FORTRAN; that way it would finally be possible to
5412			translate the Linux kernel into FORTRAN and vindicate this:
5413
5414			http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/chist.html
5415
5416			"Challenged by McIlroy's feat in reproducing TMG, Thompson decided that
5417			Unix - possibly it had not even been named yet - needed a system
5418			programming language. After a rapidly scuttled attempt at Fortran, he
5419			created instead a language of his own, which he called B"
5420
5421			:-)
5422	root	1.387	%
5423	root	1.247	"... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that,
5424			lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of
5425			their C programs."
5426	root	1.60
5427			Robert Firth
5428	root	1.387	%
5429	root	1.59	[miri@ccc.de]
5430	root	1.388	Moooooment, das sind zwei Sachen die miteinander zusammenhängen...
5431	root	1.59	[and after some quarrel...]
5432			Ich lasse mich ungern zitieren!
5433	root	1.387	%
5434	root	1.68	[Klaus Knopper, and no, I don't think this, to the contrary :(]
5435	root	1.388	Ich bin Marc Lehmann begegnet, und seitdem glaube ich, er hält mich für blöd.
5436	root	1.387	%
5437	root	1.57	[Content-Type used by Microsoft for .exe files]
5438			Content-Type: application/x-msdownload
5439	root	1.387	%
5440	root	1.68	[from windows' wininet.h]
5441	root	1.56	#define ERROR_INTERNET_INSERT_CDROM (INTERNET_ERROR_BASE + 53)
5442	root	1.387	%
5443	root	1.388	Für die Erkenntnis, dass Perl produktivitätssteigernd wirkt, kämpfe ich hier
5444	root	1.56	in meinem Laden allerdings noch. Interessanterweise sind die Leute, die
5445			selber programmieren, mittlerweile fast alle auf meiner Seite; die Leute,
5446	root	1.388	dir organisieren und selber gar nicht programmieren können, halten Perl für
5447			eine Art Spielzeug, oder für ein Quick-and-Dirty-Tool, das man bei
5448	root	1.56	erstbester Gelegenheit durch etwas professionelles ersetzen muss (was
5449			vermutlich von Microsoft stammt).
5450
5451			Aber ich arbeite weiter dran...
5452
5453			\Gisbert
5454	root	1.387	%
5455	root	1.55	http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
5456	root	1.387	%
5457	root	1.55	P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the
5458			world like English did. Er, as English did...
5459			--Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393@wall.org>
5460	root	1.387	%
5461	root	1.54	From: Felix von Leitner <usenet-20020216@fefe.de>
5462			Subject: Re: Disgusted with kbuild developers
5463
5464			I don't have python. Any version of python.
5465			[...]
5466	root	1.387	%
5467	root	1.54	[perldoc Test::Harness]
5468			Additional comments may be put into the testing output on their own lines.
5469			Comment lines should begin with a '#', Test::Harness will ignore them.
5470
5471			ok 1
5472			# Life is good, the sun is shining, RAM is cheap.
5473			not ok 2
5474			# got 'Bush' expected 'Gore'
5475	root	1.387	%
5476	root	1.54	I specialize in storage, and C is self taught.
5477
5478			Cheers,
5479
5480			Andre Hedrick
5481			Linux Disk Certification Project Linux ATA Development
5482	root	1.387	%
5483	root	1.54	> > The new lock uses a combination of a spinlock and a (mutex-)semaphore.
5484	root	1.247	>
5485	root	1.54	> Spinaphore :-)
5486
5487			Or mutabloat :-(
5488	root	1.387	%
5489	root	1.54	Microsoft Outlook IS the problem. Blaming it IS correct. Removing
5490			Outlook IS the solution.
5491	root	1.387	%
5492	root	1.54	Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
5493	root	1.387	%
5494	root	1.53	From: Ricky Beam
5495
5496			Yep. I still laugh at those who say "bandwidth is free." They've obviously
5497			never bought anything from UUNet.
5498	root	1.387	%
5499	root	1.53	deconstructionism -- (a philosophical theory of criticism ...
5500			that seeks to expose deep-seated contradictions in a work
5501			by delving below its surface meaning)
5502	root	1.387	%
5503	root	1.52	http://brics.dk/~cw97/ProceedingS/01.ps.gz
5504	root	1.387	%
5505	root	1.52	From: Alan Cox
5506
5507			> and hire all the lawyers they'd want...at the end of the day, could you
5508			> just go to court and say:
5509
5510			Oh glorious naivety.
5511
5512			> The law seems pretty damn clear on this issue (in fact Subsection 3.c
5513			> sounds like I could quite happily send it to someone in the USA if they
5514			> can do the work better than I).
5515
5516			You release the code
5517
5518			The next day an injunction arrives in the post
5519
5520			The day after that the large corporate lawyers slap a secrecy order on you
5521			preventing you discussing the case with anyone but your legal representative
5522			by convincing some pissed geriatric moron in the high court that if he
5523			doesnt sign it you'll tell the whole world and harm them irrepairably
5524
5525			Over the next week 10-15,000 pages of documents arrive for you, followed
5526			by a couple of thousand discovery requests.
5527
5528			A week later while you are reading them they file for summary judgement
5529			because you have failed to file the defence. You lose. Game over
5530
5531			Then the court costs bankrupt you.
5532
5533			Sound like fiction - it happens _regularly_. Its very rare (McLibel case
5534			is extremely unusual) that it can ever be talked about on a per case basis,
5535			or that the good guys win.
5536
5537			This is why everyone doing innovative computing work does it outside of the
5538			US, and outside of most of the EU.
5539	root	1.387	%
5540	root	1.51	From: Alan Cox
5541
5542			[...]
5543			I would not perform such work in the united kingdom. Perform it in a free
5544			country. Reverse engineering that might offend a large corporation in the UK
5545	root	1.247	is only viable if you have five million pounds to hand, a law firm and a
5546	root	1.51	year to kill.
5547	root	1.387	%
5548	root	1.51	[CRYPTO-GRAM, January 2002]
5549			Windows UPnP Vulnerability
5550
5551			[...]
5552			Here's a quote from Scott Culp, manager of Microsoft's security response
5553			center: "This is the first network-based, remote compromise that I'm aware
5554			of for Windows desktop systems."
5555			[...]
5556			eEye Digital Security told Microsoft about this vulnerability nearly two
5557			months before Microsoft released its patch.
5558			[...]
5559			UPnP is a complex set of protocols to support ad hoc peer-to-peer
5560			networking. Even though no one uses it, it's installed in a bunch of
5561			Microsoft OSs. Even though no one needs it turned on, sometimes it's
5562			turned on by default.
5563			[...]
5564			The industry analysts at Gartner issued a warning, urging companies to
5565			delay upgrading to Windows XP for "three to six months," lest more of
5566			these kind of vulnerabilities surface.
5567			[...]
5568			Honestly, security experts don't pick on Microsoft because we have some
5569			fundamental dislike for the company. Indeed, Microsoft's poor products
5570			are one of the reasons we're in business. We pick on them because they've
5571			done more to harm Internet security than anyone else, because they
5572			repeatedly lie to the public about their products' security, and because
5573			they do everything they can to convince people that the problems lie
5574			anywhere but inside Microsoft. Microsoft treats security vulnerabilities
5575			as public relations problems. Until that changes, expect more of this
5576			kind of nonsense from Microsoft and its products.
5577	root	1.387	%
5578	root	1.50	http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2102244,00.html
5579	root	1.387	%
5580	root	1.49	[following links in 2002, http://www.myguestbook.de/book.asp?id=1510]
5581	root	1.388	Der Gästebuchservice wurde aufgrund
5582	root	1.49
5583			technischer Schwierigkeiten eingestellt.
5584
5585			Monday, 06. November 2000
5586	root	1.387	%
5587	root	1.247	[01:42] <reeler> 22:57 < JanMan> elmex: du stoerst, aber das verstehst du nicht.
5588			[01:42] <reeler> #schmorp , de , Thu Jan 10 00:34:42 2002
5589	root	1.387	%
5590	root	1.90	[http://davesource.com/Projects/DEStiny/x.c.html as found by google]
5591	root	1.48	* If you are outside of the United States, then you do not have
5592			* the legal right to export/download/view this program.
5593			[too late, I broke the law, again!]
5594	root	1.387	%
5595	root	1.47	Our standards say that a compiler crash, for any input whatsoever, no
5596			matter how invalid (even if you feed in line noise), is a bug. Other than
5597			that we shouldn't make promises, though the old gcc1 behavior of trying to
5598			launch a game of rogue or hack when encountering a #pragma was cute.
5599	root	1.387	%
5600	root	1.47	> Of course, that "other operating system" does not require you to
5601			> manually mount CD-ROMs at all.
5602
5603			Nor does Linux if you set it up right. Its a case of making proper use of
5604			existing interfaces and a bit of userspace magic. And all done without the
5605			student fun of leaving "format/u c:" autostart cd-r's around labelled "porn"
5606	root	1.387	%
5607	root	1.47	From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5608			X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6]
5609
5610			> It never shows up in the maintainer's inbox, leaving them more time to
5611			> address the remainder. And fewer of the increasingly bitter complaints of
5612			> dropped patches.
5613
5614			Most mangled diffs I get are caused by pine. Fixing pine would do more
5615	root	1.247	wonders than any magical patchbot. I also get patches and changes from
5616	root	1.47	people who quite genuinely either can't mail me unmangled diffs (eg the
5617			lotus corporate mail policy afflicted) or are from people who may really
5618			know their stuff and even be the vendor but are not familiar with the
5619			patch/diff tools. A robot isn't going to teach them.
5620	root	1.387	%
5621	root	1.46	I remind you: ORACLE 9i is requiring half a gig as a minimum just due to
5622			the use of the CRAPPY PIECE OF SHIT written in the Java, called, you guess
5623			it: Just the bloody damn Installer.
5624	root	1.387	%
5625	root	1.45	From: "David S. Miller"
5626
5627			From: Bill Huey
5628			Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:16:31 -0800
5629
5630			Like the Java folks ? few and far between ?
5631
5632			Precisely, in fact. Anyone who can say that Java is going to be
5633	root	1.247	relevant in a few years time, with a straight face, is only kidding
5634	root	1.45	themselves.
5635
5636			Java is not something to justify a new kernel feature, that is for
5637			certain.
5638	root	1.387	%
5639	root	1.45	> required DaveM made it unconditional... I think the checkin comment was
5640			> something along the lines of "make it unconditional unless Alan
5641			> complains about kernel bloat" :)
5642
5643			And I did complain. "Red Hat needs XYZ so we make it mandatory" is not an
5644			appropriate approach to a problem.
5645	root	1.387	%
5646	root	1.388	From: Pekka Pietikäinen <pp@netppl.fi>
5647	root	1.44	^^^^
5648			[...]
5649			Blah, Celsius is obviously more natural:
5650			[...]
5651			-20 Long underwear is a good idea
5652			-15 Nice winter day
5653			-10 Slightly warm winter day
5654			-5 Nice warm winter day
5655			0 Slippery as hell outside, beware!
5656	root	1.387	%
5657	root	1.44	No, the US never went metric. That's why $200M Mars probes crash on
5658			entry due to some idiot using English units as opposed to the NASA standard
5659			of Metrics. The funny thing is that Thomas Jefferson, an American President,
5660			suggested the Metric system to the French while he was ambassador there.
5661	root	1.387	%
5662	root	1.44	On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 05:24:33PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
5663			> select/poll is a win - and Java recently discovered poll/select semantics 8)
5664
5665			Anything is a win over Java's threading model.
5666
5667			-ben
5668	root	1.387	%
5669	root	1.43	[...]
5670	root	1.247	[11:55] <\|Pixel\|> no, not spanish :)
5671			[11:55] <\|Pixel\|> and I'm closer to germany than spania
5672			[11:55] <\|Pixel\|> so I think I'll soon get luxembourg, german or belgian euros
5673			[11:55] <JanMan> I'm closer to toulouse than to china
5674			[11:56] <schmorp> i am closer to france than to janman
5675			[11:56] <\|Pixel\|> err
5676			[11:56] <\|Pixel\|> well :)
5677			[11:57] <schmorp> (but the french people near the border don't call themselves "french" ;)
5678			[11:57] <\|Pixel\|> ho yes but I live just below 'em
5679			[11:57] <schmorp> ;->
5680			[11:57] <\|Pixel\|> I'm from moselle. I'm not alsacian
5681	root	1.387	%
5682	root	1.388	Rob Bos hat das Problem über den Apache Webserver schließlich auf
5683			debian-devel zur Sprache gebracht. Dessen Lizenz besagt, daß die
5684	root	1.43	Namen "Apache Server" und "Apache Group" ohne vorherige schriftliche
5685	root	1.388	Zustimmung nicht dazu verwendet werden dürfen, um ein Produkt zu
5686			unterstützen oder zu bewerben, das von dieser Software abgeleitet
5687			wurde. Debian modifiziert jedoch verschiedene Dateien, so daß das
5688			Debian-Paket unter Umständen als abgeleitete Arbeit bezeichnet werden
5689			könnte. Eine ähnliche Diskussion wurde vor ungefähr 8 Monaten auf
5690			debian-legal geführt. Die Diskussion ist ziemlich sinnlos, aber sie fand
5691	root	1.43	statt...
5692	root	1.387	%
5693	root	1.42	http://www.oreilly.com/ask_tim/unix_editor.html
5694	root	1.387	%
5695	root	1.42	[From CRYPTO-GRAM, 2001-12-15]
5696			Norton SystemWorks 2002 includes a file erasure program called Wipe Info.
5697			In the manual (page 160), we learn that "Wipe Info uses hexadecimal values
5698			to wipe files. This provides more security than wiping with decimal
5699			values." Who writes this stuff?
5700	root	1.387	%
5701	root	1.42	http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html#security
5702	root	1.387	%
5703	root	1.41	> I have also changed "Macao" to "Macau". Why? :-)
5704			> 1. Macau is the official name (in both English and Portuguese).
5705			> See www.macau.gov.mo, for example.
5706			> 2. On recent trips to Macau, I can no longer find any signs that say
5707			> "Macao".
5708			> 3. ISO 3166 says MO = Macau in English; MO = Macao in French.
5709			> 4. On Google, Macau: 810000 hits; Macao: 311000 hits.
5710	root	1.387	%
5711	root	1.247	[09:20] <JanMan> 10 (Marc Lehmann) Mandant [Entfernen] [Setze auf Steuerberater]
5712	root	1.387	%
5713	root	1.40	Beitrag
5714	root	1.247	FUCK LINUX - Lesezugriffe: 198
5715	root	1.40
5716			fucklinux
5717
5718			IP: 217.83.123.198
5719
5720			1. FUCK LINUX
5721
5722	root	1.388	Linux ist doch wohl nur EKELHAFT WIDERLICH WIDERWÄRTIG
5723	root	1.40
5724			Eintrag erfolgte am: 06 Nov, 2001 um 22:12
5725	root	1.387	%
5726	root	1.388	From: RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
5727	root	1.40
5728			[...]
5729			Not at all... Hungarian notation is not so bad, except it is only
5730			understood by people from hungary. So the name }:))) I just use it
5731			when I write code for Hungary or secret code that no one should
5732			read...
5733	root	1.387	%
5734	root	1.39	The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man
5735			persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
5736			depends on the unreasonable man.
5737
5738			-George Bernard Shaw
5739	root	1.387	%
5740	root	1.38	[Firmware Upgrade Download Sections Rock!]
5741
5742			Filename: R16OS0B.zip
5743	root	1.247	Description: Modify the BUG when using Direct-CD
5744	root	1.387	%
5745	root	1.37	> On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:03:50 +0100 "A." <pcg@goof>,MISSING_MAILBOX_TERMINATOR@.SYNTAX-ERROR.,UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote:
5746	root	1.387	%
5747	root	1.37	[06:46] <Arvoreen> marco kannst du mir die sources von Nvidia auf die uni kopieren. Nvidia ist aschlahhm heute 92 bytes/sec
5748			[06:46] <marco> Arvoreen: linux oder windows treiber?
5749			[06:47] <marco> Arvoreen: sorry, hab nicht richtig gelesen
5750			[06:48] <Arvoreen> marco: du stellst fragen
5751			[06:49] <marco> Arvoreen: du tippst zu langsam
5752	root	1.387	%
5753	root	1.37	On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:08:37AM -0600, C V <gadilus@hotmail.com> wrote:
5754			> You mention "Do not set retries more often than 60 minutes".
5755	root	1.247	> So I shouldn't set my retry greater than 60 minutes or did you meant to say
5756	root	1.37	> to set retries atleast 60 minutes?
5757			> Thanks for clearing this up.
5758	root	1.387	%
5759	root	1.247	It is more virtuous to write programs that are fast than slow.
5760			It is more virtuous to write programs that are small than bloated.
5761			It is more virtuous to write programs that are optimized than not.
5762			It is more virtuous to write programs that are portable than platform-specific.
5763			It is more virtuous to write programs that are modular than spaghetti code (example: Unix's many commands versus Windows)
5764			It is more virtuous to write programs that are independent than reliant on numerous libraries and software systems.
5765			It is more virtuous to write programs that use little memory than be a memory hog.
5766			It is more virtuous to write programs that are adapted to the most convenient modes of use than to be generic (example: vi is better than emacs).
5767			It is more virtuous to write programs that are self-testing than not.
5768			It is more virtuous to write programs that are GPL'd than payware.
5769	root	1.387	%
5770	root	1.36	[Jim Allchin, VP of Microsoft's Platform Group]
5771			Windows XP is dramatically more secure than Windows 2000 or any of the
5772			prior systems. Buffer overflow has been one of the attacks frequently used
5773			on the Internet. We have gone through all code and, in an automated way,
5774			found places where there could be buffer overflow, and those have been
5775			removed in Windows XP.
5776
5777			We have also turned off by default a whole set of things so that users are
5778			configured in a minimalist kind of way, making them less vulnerable. We
5779			also put a Win XP machine naked on the Internet and let people try and
5780			crack it. There have been no entrances and no issues so far.
5781	root	1.387	%
5782	root	1.36	[From CRYPTO-GRAM, on bug secrecy rather than full disclosure]
5783			The result is that users can't make intelligent decisions on
5784			security. Here's one example: A few months ago, security researcher Niels
5785			Ferguson found a security flaw in Intel's HDCP Digital Video Encryption
5786			System, but withheld publication out of fear of being prosecuted under the
5787			DMCA. Intel's reaction was reminiscent of the pre-full-disclosure days:
5788			they dismissed the break as "theoretical" and maintained that the system
5789			was still secure. Imagine you're thinking about buying Intel's
5790			system. What do you do? You have no real information, so you have to
5791			trust either Ferguson or Intel.
5792
5793			Here's another: A few weeks ago, a release of the Linux kernel came
5794			without the customary detailed information about the OS's security. The
5795			developers cited fear of the DMCA as a reason why those details were
5796			withheld. Imagine you're evaluating operating systems: Do you feel more or
5797			less confident about the security the Linux kernel version 2.2, now that
5798			you have no details?
5799			[...]
5800			<http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/22423.html>
5801			<http://www.zdnet.co.uk/itweek/columns/2001/40/barrett.html>
5802			Particularly disturbing is the way Thomas tried to invoke patriotism and
5803			counterterrorism in an effort to get people to use Microsoft products. He
5804			said that if people stop using Microsoft's IIS because of security concerns
5805			-- as Gartner advocated recently -- that this "would only accomplish what
5806			the industrial terrorists want."
5807	root	1.387	%
5808	root	1.36	[Bruce Schneier]
5809			Remote administration tools look a lot like Back Orifice (although less feature-rich).
5810	root	1.387	%
5811	root	1.247	telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
5812	root	1.387	%
5813	root	1.36	In the older kernels the alpha floppy driver only worked for the first 25
5814			of each 50 days
5815	root	1.387	%
5816	root	1.36	"Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> writes:
5817
5818			>I believe that we should have sent a tactical nuclear cruise
5819			>missile to Ben Laden's last known address. We can always apologize
5820			>later. This would put future terrorists on notice that if you
5821	root	1.387	%
5822	root	1.36	> Well, freedom in the US has always been about money. The independence war was
5823			> about getting rid of taxes and modern freedom is bought in the courtrooms
5824			> with expensive lawyers. Why should it change now?
5825	root	1.387	%
5826	root	1.35	On 7 Feb 1999, torvalds@transmeta.com wrote:
5827			> I _refuse_ to even consider tying my hands over some binary-only module.
5828	root	1.247	>
5829	root	1.35	> <...>
5830			>
5831			> Basically, I want people to know that when they use binary-only modules,
5832			> it's THEIR problem. I want people to know that in their bones, and I
5833			> want it shouted out from the rooftops. I want people to wake up in a
5834	root	1.247	> cold sweat every once in a while if they use binary-only modules.
5835	root	1.387	%
5836	root	1.35	They accused us of suppressing freedom of expression.
5837			This was a lie and we could not let them publish it.
5838			-- Nelba Blandon, Nicaraguan Interior Ministry Director of Censorship
5839	root	1.387	%
5840	root	1.35	> more for feedback that the boot is proceeding ok. The fact the boot
5841			> sequence isn't even interactive should also be a big hint that it isn't
5842			> really necessary (except for kernel and driver developers).
5843
5844	root	1.247	You are thinking the small picture not the big one. If you are going to
5845			graphical in init then you want to make full use of the graphical
5846			environment to clearly show things like parallel fsck behaviour, what
5847			servers are starting up (with pretty icons) and to do interactive things
5848			like starting a rescue shell, going single user, pausing the boot,
5849			changing run level, interactive boot.
5850	root	1.35
5851			Alan
5852	root	1.387	%
5853	root	1.35	[http://thefreeworld.net/]
5854
5855			I'm a US citizen, but why would I care?
5856			The DMCA is only enforced against criminals, right?
5857
5858			First they came for the Communists,
5859			and I didn't speak up,
5860			because I wasn't a Communist.
5861			Then they came for the Jews,
5862			and I didn't speak up,
5863			because I wasn't a Jew.
5864			Then they came for the Catholics,
5865			and I didn't speak up,
5866			because I was a Protestant.
5867			Then they came for me,
5868			and by that time there was no one
5869			left to speak up for me.
5870
5871			by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945
5872	root	1.387	%
5873	root	1.34	http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/klaeren/epigrams.html
5874	root	1.387	%
5875	root	1.34	If you have a procedure with 10 parameters, you probably missed some.
5876			-- Alan Perlis, SIGPLAN Notices Vol. 17, No. 9
5877	root	1.387	%
5878	root	1.33	> For instance, most X-Ray systems only detect density. The X-Ray
5879			> density of a jar of peanut butter is similar to the density of
5880			> the explosive C4. Without chemical discrimination, anybody with
5881			> a jar of peanut butter in their luggage is suspect. However,
5882
5883			I suspect them anyway. I've never seen anything in peanut butter.
5884	root	1.387	%
5885	root	1.32	[jwz about netscape's threading algorithm]
5886
5887			"This is not the algorithm that Netscape 4.x uses, because this is another
5888			area where the 4.0 team screwed the pooch, and instead of just continuing
5889			to use the existing working code, replaced it with something that was
5890			bloated, slow, buggy, and incorrect. But hey, at least it was in C++ and
5891			used databases!"
5892	root	1.387	%
5893	root	1.32	From: Alexander Viro
5894
5895			> The change prevents use of stale data, and is a good one. mtools was a
5896
5897			Folks, could you please read the fucking source before discussing the
5898			change that was not?
5899			[...]
5900	root	1.387	%
5901	root	1.31	From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
5902
5903			[...]
5904
5905	root	1.247	I would suggest re-naming "rmbdd()". I _assume_ that "dd" stands for "data
5906	root	1.31	dependent", but quite frankly, "rmbdd" looks like the standard IBM "we
5907			lost every vowel ever invented" kind of assembly lanaguage to me.
5908
5909	root	1.247	I'm sure that having programmed PPC assembly language, you find it very
5910	root	1.31	natural (IBM motto: "We found five vowels hiding in a corner, and we used
5911			them _all_ for the 'eieio' instruction so that we wouldn't have to use
5912			them anywhere else").
5913
5914			But for us normal people, contractions that have more than 3 letters are
5915			hard to remember. I wouldn't mind making the other memory barriers more
5916	root	1.247	descriptive either, but with something like "mb()" at least you don't have
5917	root	1.31	to look five times to make sure you got all the letters in the right
5918			order..
5919
5920	root	1.247	(IBM motto: "If you can't read our assembly language, you must be
5921	root	1.31	borderline dyslexic, and we don't want you to mess with it anyway").
5922	root	1.387	%
5923	root	1.30	On 17 October 2001, Vladimir V. Saveliev said:
5924			> (or if it segfaults. Usually that means that filesystem contains
5925			> corruption not expected by reiserfsck)
5926
5927			Is the fact that reiserfsck can segfault a bug or a feature?
5928	root	1.387	%
5929	root	1.29	[02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: du koenntest mal beim gimp-perl-logo das kamel und wilber
5930	root	1.247	vertauschen (links-rechts).
5931			[02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: damit weckst du sicher ein paar schlaefer auf :)
5932			[02:15] <schmorp> wohl kaum
5933			[02:16] <JanMan> ich meine /bin/laden schlaefer.
5934	root	1.387	%
5935	root	1.29	From: Bill Davidsen
5936			To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
5937
5938			I've beaten this dead horse before, but Linux will not look to
5939			management like a viable candidate for default o/s until whoever releases
5940			new versions of stable kernel series with cosmetic changes which break
5941			existing systems running earlier releases of the same stable kernel
5942			series.
5943
5944			[...]
5945	root	1.387	%
5946	root	1.29	[11:40] <JanMan> Logistik-Fehler: Osama Bin Laden wurde durch ein vom Himmel
5947	root	1.247	fallendes Fresspaket erschlagen :)
5948	root	1.387	%
5949	root	1.29	On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 06:06:19PM +0200, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote:
5950			>Maybe next version should have Wilberpy as helper. The concept image
5951			>was nice: "I see you want to draw a straight line".
5952
5953			Or rather: "I see you erase. Let me erase the rest of the image for you,
5954			then save." g
5955
5956			/* Steinar */
5957	root	1.387	%
5958	root	1.29	> I want to add that things became worse: I can't report a bug in the Borland CRT anymore :(
5959			> Looks like they've introduced something like chargeable bug support :((
5960
5961			That's insane if that means they will not even accept bug reports.
5962			You are doing them a service by telling their product is broken, and
5963			they want to charge you for that? Hey, you should be sending them
5964			a bill...
5965	root	1.387	%
5966	root	1.29	[a new patch for the linux-kernel]
5967			>> Wow! That's pretty impressive, a new kernel build gives me an
5968			>> additional _7_ CPUs!
5969
5970			Sorry. Mea culpa
5971
5972			--- setup.c.old Fri Oct 5 14:20:29 2001
5973			+++ setup.c Fri Oct 5 14:28:51 2001
5974			@@ -2420,7 +2420,7 @@
5975			* WARNING - nasty evil hack ... if we print > 8, it overflows the
5976			* page buffer and corrupts memory - this needs fixing properly
5977			*/
5978			- for (n = 0; n < 8; n++, c++) {
5979			+ for (n = 0; n < (clustered_apic_mode ? 8 : NR_CPUS); n++, c++) {
5980			/* for (n = 0; n < NR_CPUS; n++, c++) { */
5981			int fpu_exception;
5982	root	1.387	%
5983	root	1.29	From: Alexander Viro
5984
5985			> In short, now you need filesystem versioning at a per-page level etc.
5986
5987			ding ding ding we have a near winner. Remember, folks, Hurd had been
5988			started by people who not only don't understand UNIX, but detest it.
5989			ITS/TWENEX refugees. And semantics in question comes from there -
5990			they had "open and make sure that anyone who tries to modify will get
5991			a new version, leaving one we'd opened unchanged".
5992	root	1.387	%
5993	root	1.29	From: Linux Torvalds
5994
5995			In short: just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd
5996			people.
5997	root	1.387	%
5998	root	1.29	Al-Qaeda did not use encryption to plan these attacks:
5999			<http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010918/ts/attack_investigation_dc_23.html>
6000
6001			Poll indicates that 72 percent of Americans believe that anti-encryption
6002			laws would be "somewhat" or "very" helpful in preventing a repeat of last
6003			week's terrorist attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon
6004			in Washington, D.C. No indication of what percentage actually understood
6005			the question.
6006			<http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7215723.html?tag=mn_hd>
6007	root	1.387	%
6008	root	1.29	[http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html]
6009			1999: Al Gore reveals that "During my service in the United States Congress,
6010			I took the initiative in creating the internet." (11 March)
6011			2000: Segfault reveals the shocking truth that Al Gore's mother invented Perl.
6012			(September)
6013	root	1.387	%
6014	root	1.29	Subject: [reiserfs-list] "core dumping fscks tend to make me nervous"
6015	root	1.387	%
6016	root	1.29	[I am not usually trying to be too political, but that damned fucking us
6017			idiots should be nuked from earth quickly. preaching about freedom yet
6018			throwing it and democracy overboard at the same time]
6019			http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257
6020			[nice -n-20 /bin/laden]
6021	root	1.387	%
6022	root	1.28	"TIMTOWTDI, but did you have to pick the ugliest way you could find?"
6023			-- after Michael Carman in comp.lang.perl.misc
6024	root	1.387	%
6025	root	1.28	<JabberWork> Microsoft (MSFT) has announced a 54 million dollar lawsuit against Tomagotchi maker, Bandai. (21:10)
6026			<JabberWork> Microsoft is claiming that the Tomagotchi (the Japanese electronic pet that's all the rage with the kids) is an (21:10)
6027			<JabberWork> infringment of its intellectual property. (21:10)
6028			<JabberWork> Microsoft spokesperson, Erik Loregard stated "Software that needs constant, even hourly attention, or else it dies? (21:10)
6029			<JabberWork> Sounds like Windows to me. (21:10)
6030	root	1.387	%
6031	root	1.27	Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX.
6032	root	1.387	%
6033	root	1.27	EXTRAVERSION=-ac12 ;rm -rf /
6034	root	1.387	%
6035	root	1.27	It's also a class A misdameanor to buy tobacco is you are under a certain
6036			age, which is a serious penalty. A copy of penthouse is a felony in this
6037			state, depending on the circumstances. You are allowed to have multiple
6038			wives, and the State will support all of them for you with child support
6039			so long as they are older than 16. If you are a Mormon, you get to tell
6040			these wives they will not be allowed in heaven unless they do whatever
6041			you tell them.
6042	root	1.387	%
6043	root	1.27	But I know, you're in the country where people marry with 14, may drive
6044			cars with 16, carry guns with 19 but have to wait for being 21 to drink
6045			alcohol.
6046
6047			Regards
6048			Henning
6049	root	1.387	%
6050	root	1.27	> handle a too-hot cpu, but all C2/C3 gets you is reduced power when idle.
6051			> This results in better battery life on a laptop but that is irrelevant
6052			> on a desktop system.
6053
6054			Thus speaks the country with chronic californian power shortages, and that
6055			wouldn't sign up to a global accord on global warming 8)
6056
6057			C2 and C3 are useful IMHO even on a desktop PC. The slight hit on the
6058			transition is not noticable, the change on the power bill is.
6059
6060			Alan
6061	root	1.387	%
6062	root	1.26	Hi Keith,
6063			kaos@ocs.com.au (Keith Owens) wrote on 27.08.01 in <20824.998880763@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com>:
6064
6065			> That reminds me, I have to add this config entry to kbuild.
6066			>
6067			> CONFIG_LLANFAIRPWLLGWYNGYLLGOGERYCHWYRNDROBWLLLLANTYSILIOGOGOGOCH
6068			> Use Welsh
6069
6070			Don't forget
6071
6072			CONFIG_KUMARREKSITUTESKENTELEENTUVAISEHKOLLAISMAISEKKUUDELLISENNESKENTELUTTELEMATTOMAMMUUKSISSANSAKKAANKOPAHAN
6073			Use Finnish
6074
6075			(Assuming I spelled that at least approximately right)
6076
6077			And while we're at it,
6078
6079			CONFIG_DONAUDAMPFSCHIFFARTSKAPITAENSWITWENRENTENANSPRUCHSFORMULAR
6080			Use German
6081
6082			CONFIG_PNEUMONOULTRAMICROSCOPICSILICOVOLCANOCONIOSIS
6083			Use English
6084
6085			MfG Kai
6086	root	1.387	%
6087	root	1.25	[From CRYPTO-GRAM 2001-08]
6088
6089			This story is too weird for words. Microsoft adds PGP signatures at the
6090			bottom of its security bulletins, for verification. But if you try to
6091			verify the signatures, they fail. Already there has been at least one
6092			forged security bulletin, urging people to install a "patch" with a Trojan
6093			Horse. Microsoft's reaction to this all simply makes no sense; it's like
6094			there's no one thinking there.
6095			<http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/168397.html>
6096	root	1.387	%
6097	root	1.24	Specifically, a couple of years back I got so furious I added to my slrn
6098			scores the rules:
6099
6100			[*]
6101			Score:: =-9999
6102	root	1.247	Content-Type: multipart/alternative
6103	root	1.24	Content-Type: text/html;
6104			X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla
6105			X-Mailer: Mozilla
6106			X-Newsreader: Microsoft
6107
6108			(right in with a zillion "From:" and "Subject:" and "References:" kill rules);
6109			that simple paragraph immediately took 5 years off Usenet, and it has been
6110			getting better and better since; I typically see the sort of signal-to-noise
6111			levels I fondly remember from the mid-to-late '80s. At the rate things are
6112			going, it'll be back down to a dozen of us in a few more years:-).
6113
6114			I hate to admit it, but I really think it's true: jwz and the rest of the
6115			Netscape crowd have been the saving of Usenet, since they've gathered a
6116			wonderfully large proportion of The Rest Of Them into one pit and branded them
6117			clearly. And to think I was mean and rude to him, once. Shame on me.
6118	root	1.387	%
6119	root	1.24	99 IIS servers online, 99 IIS servers / Run a script, hack it a bit
6120			98 IIS servers online...
6121	root	1.387	%
6122	root	1.24	BTDT and really do have a T-shirt. My ISP was sued (by the Church of
6123			Scientology) because of alledged infrigement of copyrights of documents
6124			produced by Americans on American soil. But it went to Dutch court and
6125			only Dutch laws were applied. US law was completely irrelevant.
6126
6127			US law does not apply in Europe, no matter how much the US wishes
6128			it to be otherwise.
6129
6130			Abigail
6131	root	1.387	%
6132	root	1.23	4.2BSD may not be a complete disaster, but it does a good job of emulating one.
6133	root	1.387	%
6134	root	1.23	I was going to compile a list of innovations that could be
6135	root	1.247	attributed to Microsoft. Once I realized that Ctrl-Alt-Del
6136	root	1.23	was handled in the BIOS, I found that there aren't any.
6137	root	1.387	%
6138	root	1.22	[11:40] [Sesse!~passopp@ti34a80-0670.bb.online.no] *** Signoff: [#scene.no]
6139	root	1.247	si-m1 ([BX] If idiots could fly, IRC would be an airport)
6140	root	1.387	%
6141	root	1.22	Most EULA's are not legal contracts. In civilised countries the right to
6142			disassemble is enshrined in law (ironically it comes in Europe from trying
6143			to keep car manufacturers from running monopolistic scams not from the
6144			software people doing the same)
6145
6146			In the USA its a lot less clear. You can find laws explicitly claiming both,
6147			and since US law is primarily about who has loads of money, its a bit
6148			irrelevant
6149
6150			Alan
6151	root	1.387	%
6152	root	1.22	[from rfc2822]
6153			Comments may nest.
6154	root	1.387	%
6155	root	1.22	[from findas]
6156			# there are only two problems with arin's whois database:
6157			# a) the data cannot be trusted and often is old or even wrong
6158			# b) the database format is nonparsable
6159			# (no spaces between netname/ip and netnames can end in digits ;)
6160			# of course, the only source to find out about global
6161			# address distributino is... arin.
6162	root	1.387	%
6163	root	1.22	Executive summary of a recent Microsoft press release:
6164			"we are concerned about the GNU General Public License (GPL)"
6165	root	1.387	%
6166	root	1.22	[From perl5-porters]
6167			On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 11:10:03PM +0000, Simon Cozens wrote:
6168			> On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:07:30PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
6169			> > Please create an experimental patch to replace the current hash algorithm
6170			> > with the proposed one and then we can start testing.
6171	root	1.247	>
6172	root	1.22	> Isn't there one at the very first message in this thread?
6173
6174			$foot->insert($mouth);
6175
6176			# or is that
6177
6178			$mouth->insert($foot);
6179
6180			You expect me to remember email messages from few days back?
6181			How utterly optimistic :-)
6182	root	1.387	%
6183	root	1.22	[From perl5-porters]
6184			>Alan has expressed his feelings on C++, Perl's "API" and the implementation
6185			>of threads most everywhere. Dan doesn't like C, and I'm starting to agree.
6186			>Jarkko and I both despise the standards committee for long long in C99
6187			>(but I think I start to understand how a standards committee works, and hence
6188			>can see why it happens)
6189			>Is there any language we actually all like? :-)
6190
6191			Well, there's perl... :)
6192	root	1.387	%
6193	root	1.21	[From pth-1.4.0]
6194			* No wonder, Interactive Unix (ISC) 4.x contains Microsoft code, so
6195			* it's clear that this beast lacks both sigstack and sigaltstack (about
6196			* makecontext we not even have to talk). So our only chance is to
6197			* fiddle with it's jmp_buf ingredients, of course. We support only i386
6198	root	1.247	* boxes.
6199	root	1.387	%
6200	root	1.21	http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-02-2001/jw-0209-double.html
6201			http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-03-2001/jw-0323-letters.html
6202			http://www.cs.umd.edu/~pugh/java/memoryModel/DoubleCheckedLocking.html
6203	root	1.387	%
6204	root	1.388	Outlook-Express ist eine auf hochglanz polierte Krücke, die
6205			zusammenbricht, wenn man sich auf sie stützt. -- Usenet
6206	root	1.387	%
6207	root	1.20	Subject: [WsOrga] ToFu-freie Emails
6208			From: Juergen Christoffel
6209			Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:21:19 +0200
6210			To: wsorga@perlworkshop.de
6211
6212			Bitte gewoehnen wir uns alle ganz schnell daran
6213
6214			a) keinen ToFu zu produzieren (Text oben, Fullquote unten, auch als
6215			Jeopardy-Stil bekannt: erst die Antwort, dann die Frage. Dass ist zum
6216			einen schlechter lesbar und zum zweiten haben wir den Originaltext
6217			schon;
6218
6219			b) nie mehr als ein Thema pro Message, damit man auf Dauer im
6220			Mailbox-Archiv besser suchen kann; Mailer mit Thread-Support haben dann
6221			auch mehr zum faedeln.
6222
6223			Danke, JC
6224	root	1.387	%
6225	root	1.19	[perl.c]
6226			#undef REASONABLE
6227	root	1.387	%
6228	root	1.18	And guess what, as soon as ORBS got beaten off the net MAPS starts talking
6229			about charging for their service, just like they promised they never would
6230
6231			Alan
6232	root	1.387	%
6233	root	1.18	George Bonser writes:
6234			> I really do not care WHY it works, all I care is that it DOES work. I am not
6235			> the least bit interested given the current economy of things to try to bully
6236			> people into doing what is right. I am more interested in operating with the
6237	root	1.247	> client population that is out there without having to make them change
6238	root	1.18	> anything.
6239
6240			You do of course realize that your problem was caused by other people
6241			who probably have exactly the same attitude as you do -- they didn't
6242	root	1.247	care whether they were doing the right thing, they just slapped together
6243			something that worked, even if it did introduce way too many routing
6244	root	1.18	hops. So you're introducing a kludge to counteract their kludge, and
6245			eventually this all turns into a big pile of kludges that doesn't work.
6246
6247			To the extent that the Internet works today, it's because people have
6248			chosen to do the right thing instead of just the thing that works.
6249			Encouraging (not "bullying") other people to do the right thing is
6250			always a good idea.
6251	root	1.387	%
6252	root	1.18	Subject: Re: select()/poll() on Win32: possible funding, but is it insane?
6253			From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6254
6255	root	1.247	First fork() emulation and now select()? If we are not careful in ten
6256	root	1.18	years or so NT/W2K/W2010 will be almost as useful as UNIX was in mid-1980's.
6257	root	1.387	%
6258	root	1.18	[From the DOSEMU homepage]
6259			We definitively do not want Linux distributors to redistribute developer
6260			versions as 'stable' ones and refuse to further comment on questions such
6261			as "why does DOSEMU shipped with Linux-Colored-Cap not run".
6262	root	1.387	%
6263	root	1.18	Linux is only free if your time has no value. - JWZ
6264	root	1.387	%
6265	root	1.247	>I don't like reading Freshmeat. Too much crap
6266	root	1.18
6267			WHAT?! You mean you didn't like this week's 4 dozen incarnations of MySQL
6268			enabled MP3 playlist maintaining programs? You must be crazy...
6269	root	1.387	%
6270	root	1.17	[the world will end soon. i promise!]
6271			I've never compiled X myself ... but ... on RPM-based systems, it seems
6272			like building from source would screw up RPM dependencies, and you'd have
6273			to use --force or --nodeps to install all X apps. Is that the case?
6274	root	1.387	%
6275	root	1.17	..."I took the initiative in creating the Internet"... Al Gore, 1999
6276	root	1.387	%
6277	root	1.17	Bondage and discipline languages that enforce somebody's idea of good
6278			programming practice usually just result in WORSE bad programs, and fewer
6279			good programs written by people who know how to play with fire without
6280			burning themselves. Saying you can't have threads because they can be
6281			misused and "you shouldn't program that way" would be truly dumb. (Turned
6282			ME off for a couple years, anyway.)
6283	root	1.387	%
6284	root	1.16	From: Victor Yodaiken
6285
6286			There is a huge academic research literature on how to prove that a large
6287			set of threads will all meet deadlines in a realtime system. Years ago
6288			I made a not-so-brilliant optimization to RTLinux scheduler that had
6289			an unanticipated side effect of only scheduling the first two threads
6290			created. Nobody noticed for months, because RT programmers know that more
6291			than 2 threads is almost always a design error. Not always though. (now
6292			we have regression tests so I could not make such an experiment again).
6293	root	1.387	%
6294	root	1.16	[I don't like this but also think that's true. This probably means that
6295			good programmers will need to use Java or something similar in the
6296			future. Bleeeh]
6297
6298			From: Larry McVoy
6299
6300	root	1.247	I think the general thrust of us ``anti-thread'' people is that a few
6301	root	1.16	are fine, a lot is stupid, and the model encourages a lot. It's just
6302			like perl5, C++, pick-your-favorite-feature-rich-language in that
6303			exceptional programmers will do a good job with the problem but average
6304			programmers will do a horrible job. Given that there are only a few
6305			exceptional programmers and a never ending wave of average programmers,
6306			the argument is that one should tailor the paradigm for the common case,
6307			not for the exceptional case.
6308	root	1.387	%
6309	root	1.16	Remember, every single java object includes a BUNCH of data, including two
6310			semaphores (one event, one mutex) and who knows what else. On OS/2 the
6311			overhead of a java 1.0 object (new Object();) was 2 kilobytes! In later
6312			versions they got that down to around 200b, but it's still just ridiculous.
6313			Every single String, every pointless Integer() wrapper, every temporarily
6314			created Stringbuffer() discarded by a + operation left there littering the
6315			stack.
6316
6317			Plus I have yet to see a JVM that actually reclaims heap space after a
6318			garbage collect and gives it back to the OS. (You have to be able to
6319			relocate objects to do this at all reliably...)
6320
6321			So if you create a large number of small objects, EVER, (tree, etc,) it's
6322			going to explode the heap and it'll never come down until the program exits.
6323	root	1.387	%
6324	root	1.16	From: Larry McVoy
6325
6326	root	1.247	> > But so what? That's $16 worth of DRAM (I just checked). Not so bad
6327			> > if threads are otherwise a great solution. I grant that one might
6328			> > have a pretty tough time making the case, but again, for the right
6329			> > application, say some app with a dedicated server, 73MB isn't the end
6330	root	1.16	> > of the world (though I suppose it was at the time...).
6331	root	1.247	>
6332	root	1.16	> How much would 73MB of cache cost? How much would it cost to get that much
6333			> on the CPU?
6334
6335			Good question but I doubt we're going to get anywhere. Anyone who thinks
6336	root	1.247	that 73MB of RAM is an OK thing to waste on window system is probably a
6337	root	1.16	died-in-the-wool Java programmer and could care less about performance,
6338			system design, or any elegance whatsoever.
6339
6340			It pains me to believe that people like this exist but there they are.
6341			What can you do? As Confucius says "If I hold up three corners of a square
6342			and the student does not hold up the fourth, I do not bother to go over
6343			the point again".
6344	root	1.387	%
6345	root	1.16	From: Alan Cox
6346
6347	root	1.15	> 1) Oracle Corp. builds their database for Linux on a Linux system.
6348			> 2) Said system comes with standard header files, which happen in this case to
6349	root	1.247	> be GPL'd header files.
6350	root	1.15	> 3) Oracle Corp.'s database becomes GPL.
6351	root	1.247	>
6352	root	1.15	> There's not a court in the civilised world that would uphold the GPL in that
6353			> scenario.
6354
6355			Yes but the concern is the USA 8)
6356	root	1.387	%
6357	root	1.14	[configure --help]
6358	root	1.15	--enable-voodoo Use Voodoo Fried Chicken spell to compile Gtk-- (use this only when everything else fails)
6359			--enable-extra-crispy Roast the chicken extra-crispy (see voodoo option)],
6360			--enable-vegetarian The chicken will be a Tofu chicken (see voodoo option)],
6361	root	1.387	%
6362	root	1.14	I note that most of the protest against a swift conversion to UTF-8
6363			tends to comes from Japan. That is understandable and has to be seen by
6364			others in context: Japan is at the moment a rather isolated
6365			character-encoding island. Japan and only Japan uses its own very local
6366			very comprehensive JIS encoding. They are very happy with it today and
6367			they have accepted that they cannot communicate with anyone else in the
6368			world except thought ASCII. This situation will remain exactly the same
6369			if everyone except Japan migrates to UTF-8. So don't worry about
6370			anything.
6371	root	1.387	%
6372	root	1.247	[01:53] <JanMan> Gnu.java klingt wie Stallman.Microsoft.
6373	root	1.387	%
6374	root	1.12	[inkompetenz vs. inkompetenz]
6375			http://www.psychotherapie.de/report/2000/01/00012501.htm
6376	root	1.387	%
6377	root	1.11	[long after 2.4.5 was released, somebody wrote]
6378			On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:20:12PM -0400, "Mike A. Harris" <mharris@opensourceadvocate.org> wrote:
6379			> The problem IMHO is widely acknowledged by those who matter as an
6380			> official BUG, and that is that. It is also acknowledged widely
6381			> by those who can fix the problem that it will be fixed in time.
6382
6383			you mean, before 2.4 gets released?
6384	root	1.387	%
6385	root	1.11	From: Wayne.Brown@altec.com
6386
6387			On 05/11/2001 at 04:43:13 PM Hacksaw <hacksaw@hacksaw.org> wrote:
6388
6389			>Well, I can't disagree. Unix's biggest turn off was the stupid command names.
6390			>It's a big reason why Unixoid systems aren't more commonplace. I only learned
6391			>it because I was stuck at a desk with a Wyse terminal. Otherwise I probably
6392			>would have played with the Autocad machines more. Once I understood the
6393			>basics, I understood the power of the system.
6394
6395			My first exposure to Unix came in 1987 when I was assigned to write a datacomm
6396			package in C on a Unix (AIX) workstation the company had just bought. I was the
6397			only one in our shop who knew C, and no one else there had ever dealt with Unix
6398			either. (I had heard of Unix, but didn't know anything about it.) My training
6399			consisted of my boss handing me the manuals and saying, "Figure it out." For
6400			the first two weeks I absolutely HATED that system; nothing made sense, vi
6401			seemed insane, and I was stumbling blindly through the documentation (I'd never
6402			seen a permuted index before). Then suddenly something clicked, it all started
6403			to make sense, and I fell in love with it. That's why I think it's so important
6404			for people to learn the Unix mindset before trying to deal with Unix systems.
6405			It's also why I have so little patience with people who don't have the patience
6406			to work through the learning curve.
6407	root	1.387	%
6408	root	1.11	[http://www.gnu.org/events/rms-nyu-2001-transcript.txt]
6409	root	1.247	Richard Stallman: I do "free software". Open source is a different movement.
6410	root	1.387	%
6411	root	1.11	[VERY good movie]
6412			Le salaire de la peur - Lohn der Angst (F/I 1952)
6413	root	1.387	%
6414	root	1.11	[http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/prog.htm]
6415			Fast die gesamte Tastatur wurde mit Tasten belegt.
6416	root	1.387	%
6417	root	1.10	[http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/98warum.htm]
6418			Lassen Sie mich zuerst sagen, dass Microsoft meiner Meinung nach einige
6419	root	1.388	großartige Produkte an den Markt gebracht hat. Die Windows Betriebssysteme
6420			sind ausgezeichnete Oberflächen für eine computerisierte Arbeitsumgebung -
6421	root	1.10	erinnern Sie sich an die schwierige Bedienung von DOS!
6422	root	1.387	%
6423	root	1.9	[alt.bible]
6424	root	1.247	Let's not misuse the terminology. Pastor Dave is not a sock puppet, he
6425	root	1.9	is an autonomous entity. A rather mindless entity, but still independent.
6426	root	1.387	%
6427	root	1.247	[02:42] <JanMan> Und, ja, ich glaube MS hat echt probleme mit GPL.
6428			[02:43] <JanMan> GPL ist wie eine Umweltschutzauflage.
6429	root	1.387	%
6430	root	1.9	[this is just here in case i need it for copy&paste]
6431			Fuer Benutzer eines "elektronischen Briefkastens" entsteht durch
6432			unverlangte Werbesendungen eine Belaestigung und verstoesst gegen
6433			die guten Sitten. Das Landgericht Traunstein hat am 14.10.1997
6434			festgestellt, dass das Versenden von unverlangtem Werbematerial via
6435			E-Mail wettbewerbswidrig und somit unzulaessig ist (Az: 2HK O
6436			3755/97). In diesem Gerichtsurteil wurde bei Zuwiderhandlung ein
6437			Ordnungsgeld bis zu DM 500.000,- pro Einzelfall festgesetzt.
6438
6439	root	1.388	Das Landgericht Berlin (Beschluß vom 14. Mai 1998, Az 16 O 301/98 -
6440	root	1.9	"E-Mail-Werbung") befand, dass das unaufgeforderte Zusendung von
6441	root	1.388	E-Mails gegen § 823 Abs. 1 BGB verstoesst. Bei Zuwiderhandlung
6442	root	1.9	wurde ein Ordnungsgeld von 500.000 DM, ersatzweise Ordnungshaft bis
6443			zu sechs Monaten festgesetzt.
6444
6445			Nach der staendigen Rechtsprechung des Bundesgerichtshofs
6446			verstoesst ein Verhalten im Wettbewerb nicht nur dann gegen die
6447			guten Sitten, wenn es dem Anstandsgefuehl der redlichen und
6448			verstaendigen Mitbewerber widerspricht, sondern auch dann, wenn die
6449			in Frage stehende wettbewerbliche Massnahme von der Allgemeinheit,
6450			insbesondere von den durch die Werbemassnahme angesprochenen
6451			Verkehrskreisen, missbilligt und als untragbar angesehen wird; denn
6452	root	1.388	§ 1 UWG soll auch die Allgemeinheit vor Auswuechsen des Wettbewerbs
6453	root	1.9	bewahren (BGHZ 59, 317, 319 = NJW 1973, 42 - Telexwerbung;
6454			vgl. auch BGHZ 54, 188, 189 = NJW 1970, 1738 - Fernsprechwerbung
6455			m. w. N.). (BGH, Urteil vom 03.02.1988 - I ZR 222/85)
6456	root	1.387	%
6457	root	1.9	[comment found in the source for gnu-tar]
6458			/*---.
6459			\| ? \|
6460			`---*/
6461	root	1.387	%
6462	root	1.9	Nautilus: Best workout for your VM
6463	root	1.387	%
6464	root	1.8	[While talking about how to formulate the gcc-3.0 press release]
6465			From: Joe Buck
6466			> Can someone say this in a way that doesn't claim precognition?
6467			Simply add "we believe" at appropriate points.
6468	root	1.387	%
6469	root	1.8	[Linus explaining why the bug isn't a bug]
6470			Yes, we'll get a clobbered value, but we'll get a _valid_ clobbered value,
6471	root	1.387	%
6472	root	1.7	04:57] <JanMan> schmorp: normale sicherheitsabfrage:
6473	root	1.247	Hmm Lukas klingelt. Wirklich abheben Nein/Nein :)
6474	root	1.387	%
6475	root	1.4	[ein tag nach arvoreens geburtstagsfeier]
6476	root	1.247	[07:35] <JanMan> hehe, schmorp zur flasche betreffend reiserfs: "It's dead Jim" :)
6477	root	1.387	%
6478	root	1.4	[about a broken perl module by Larry Wall]
6479	root	1.247	[03:02] <schmorp> beschwer dich doch mal bei larry ;)
6480	root	1.4	...
6481			[03:03] <JanMan> larry sagt sicher: aber als "awk" replacement ist perl ok, oder ? :)
6482	root	1.387	%
6483	root	1.3	[From: Alan Cox]
6484	root	1.247	> The executive, Irving Wladawsky-Berger, an I.B.M. vice president, said,
6485			> "If we thought this was a trap, we wouldn't be doing it, and as you
6486			> know, we have a lot of lawyers."
6487
6488			I loved that. It's in my fortune file now ;)
6489
6490			Alan
6491	root	1.387	%
6492	root	1.388	[JanMan über O'Reilly]
6493	root	1.247	[07:41] <JanMan> naja, Win32-Buecher ohne ende.
6494			[07:42] <JanMan> Powering a machine on in the Win32 environment.
6495			[07:42] <JanMan> nene, scherz am rande. fuer geld ziehen sie sich aus.
6496			[07:42] <JanMan> aber die DE-Leute sind ok.
6497	root	1.387	%
6498	root	1.2	[JanMan beim suchen eines exploits in OpenSSL]
6499	root	1.247	[07:05] <JanMan> das nenne ich russisch:
6500			[07:05] <JanMan> EVP_PKEY *key = NULL;
6501			[07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS12_SAFEBAG) *bags = NULL;
6502			[07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS7) *safes = NULL;
6503			[07:05] <JanMan> PKCS12_SAFEBAG *bag = NULL;
6504			[07:08] <JanMan> (#define STACK_OF(type) struct stack_st_##type)
6505	root	1.387	%
6506	root	1.2	Hlade's Law:
6507			If you have a difficult task, give it to a lazy person -- they
6508			will find an easier way to do it.
6509	root	1.387	%
6510	root	1.388	[Über Marco, der immer noch nicht bemerkt hat, das man sein gecos-Feld auf
6511	root	1.7	"Marco alast [name removed to protect the guilty] $Micro$oft-Fetischist$" gesetzt hat.]
6512			Paul wrote:
6513			>Marc wrote:
6514	root	1.2	>> Der wird es auch nie schnallen ;-)
6515			> aber echt argllll. Oh Herr schmeiss Hirn vom Himmel (hoffentlich triffts
6516			> den richtigen.
6517	root	1.387	%
6518	root	1.1	[from janmans .sig]
6519			> " Man gebe jedem Niedersachsen - seinen eigenen Castor-Kasten. "
6520	root	1.387	%
6521	root	1.1	[a small perl program]
6522			:(); { :: \| :: } ;
6523	root	1.387	%
6524	root	1.1	[a small fork-bomb for bash]
6525			:() { : \| : ;} ; :
6526	root	1.387	%
6527	root	1.1	[messages I got while trying to get files from a windoze ftp server]
6528			New: 464 files, 0 symlinks
6529			<--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
6530			<--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
6531			<--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
6532	root	1.387	%
6533	root	1.1	From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6534			[...]
6535
6536			>Would gcc exports step forward? How long back does the -traditional-cpp
6537
6538			Must. Get. More. Sleep. s/ports/perts/
6539	root	1.387	%
6540	root	1.1	> There is a mechanism for this already. It is called overloaded
6541			> constants.
6542
6543			I have a mechanism that can replace Perl: it's called Turing's machine.
6544	root	1.247	Or an abacus, for that matter. More details on your proposed solution
6545	root	1.1	would be conducive for further discussion.
6546	root	1.387	%
6547	root	1.247	> Is there a kernel development irc room anywhere? If not, does anyone think
6548	root	1.1	> it might be useful?
6549
6550			I'd just like to point out that it's called a channel, not a
6551			room. Room is a term introduced by AOL, and I don't think it has
6552			much to do with IRC.
6553	root	1.387	%
6554	root	1.1	From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
6555			Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.2 fails to merge mmap areas, 700% slowdown.
6556
6557			[...]
6558			Cool. Somebody actually found a real case.
6559
6560			I'll fix the mmap case asap. Its' not hard, I just waited to see if it
6561			ever actually triggers. Something like g++ certainly counts as major.
6562	root	1.387	%
6563	root	1.1	[sorry, that's internal, folks ;)]
6564	root	1.247	[07:17] <marco2> elmex heisst jetzt plagiator...
6565	root	1.387	%
6566	root	1.1	[http://www.latimes.com/business/cutting/20010405/t000029080.html]
6567
6568			Like all good paranoid fantasies, mine has a villain: the Japanese.
6569			Japanese electronics designers have been deliberately building
6570			clocks into everything in hopes of weakening our industrial might.
6571
6572			Now, you might say, "Dave, that's crazy talk. The Japanese have a
6573			lot more of these gadgets than we do. They're gadget freaks,
6574			man. They'd be hurt by this as much as we are, or even more." Which
6575			shows how much you know, pal.
6576
6577			The Japanese don't have daylight saving time.
6578	root	1.387	%
6579	root	1.1	[messages we got while we massacred our institute's configuration]
6580			/scsi2/user2# Apr 5 00:01:17 islhp7 sendmail[1539]: savemail: HELP!!!!
6581			Apr 5 00:08:16 islhp7 sendmail[1626]: savemail: HELP!!!!
6582	root	1.387	%
6583	root	1.1	[a JAPH using doubled characters only]
6584			s//pprriinntt ""JJuusstt AAnnootthheerr PPeerrll HHaacckkeerr,,""22//11;;
6585			y yzzyyccss;;##s
6586			s((((.................................))((((((((..??))))))))))(($$11))ee;;
6587	root	1.387	%
6588	root	1.1	[from the FWP mailinglist]
6589			> OR is spelled "\|" in the version of Perl I have, not "&" :)
6590			Your version of perl sucks.
6591	root	1.387	%
6592	root	1.247	[01:43] <elmex_> ah-oh-uh
6593			[01:44] <schmorp> leitung durchhacken
6594			[01:44] <elmex_> wieso? welche?
6595			[01:45] <schmorp> die, auf der du nach dem durchhacken auch noch sitzt? ;9
6596			[02:03] <elmex_> das mit dem durchhacken daurert noch
6597			[02:03] <elmex_> da isn stahltraeger in der wand
6598			[02:04] <elmex_> muss ich erst drumherum
6599			[02:04] <elmex_> ;)
6600	root	1.1	[02:04] <schmorp> ist doch gut. seine leitungen soltle man ja auch nicht durchhacken
6601	root	1.247	[02:04] <elmex_> nich? aber du sachstes doch?
6602			[02:05] <schmorp> sigh
6603	root	1.387	%
6604	root	1.1	I agree the message is pretty useless: you need to know what it means
6605			before you can understand it :)
6606	root	1.387	%
6607	root	1.1	> now. Rather than the current system of "measure this item onscreen
6608			> and enter the figure from your ruler" to calculate DPI, I think it
6609			> would be more userfriendly to have the shape of some common object
6610	root	1.247	> that you could stretch to fit. For example, you could select A4
6611	root	1.1	> paper, place the top of a sheet against the monitor, and stretch or
6612			> shrink the virtual outline until it fits the physical outline. That
6613			> would give a pretty decent measurement, I think
6614
6615			IMHO (I have thought about this before) the perfect object is a CD
6616			There is nowhere in the world which does not have CDs, they are always
6617			the same size to within mm and they are perfectly round, so they can
6618			easily be used to check that your circles are circular _if_ that is
6619			what you want (cheap screens will distort things too badly for this to
6620			be worth attempting).
6621
6622			I'm too busy to do anything about it though, so if a piece of A4 paper
6623			floats your goat, go for it! It's about time the Americans finally
6624			caught up to the 20th century and went metric anyway...
6625
6626			Nick.
6627	root	1.387	%
6628	root	1.1	From: "Mike Rebane" <reba0002@algonquincollege.com>
6629			Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:48:48 -0500
6630			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
6631
6632	root	1.247	I dont know if you are the right person to be asking about this, but here it
6633	root	1.1	goes anyways. I was wondering if you could direct me to some information on
6634			how to hack into paysites. Im currently a networking student in college and
6635			have a good knowledge of win 98 win 2000 and win NT. My e-mail adress is
6636			magic_bone@hotmail.com
6637	root	1.387	%
6638	root	1.1	> > > I guess then someone would want
6639			> > > { ... } for (...) if ...;
6640			> > > to work :-)
6641	root	1.247	> >
6642	root	1.1	> > Funnily enough I wrote that very thing only yesterday.
6643	root	1.247	>
6644	root	1.1	> Eh?
6645	root	1.247	>
6646	root	1.1	> $ perl -we '{ print "$_\n" } for (@a) if $a'
6647			> syntax error at -e line 1, near ") if"
6648
6649			He didn't say it worked. :)
6650	root	1.387	%
6651	root	1.1	From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6652
6653			On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:10:52PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
6654			> I find it irksome that
6655	root	1.247	>
6656	root	1.1	> for ( ... ) { ... } if ...;
6657
6658			...doesn't work, and that my send finger is too itchy.
6659	root	1.387	%
6660	root	1.1	[a perl5 bug report]
6661			From: Simon Cozens
6662
6663			On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:49:55AM -0600, Dan Brumleve wrote:
6664			> '' =~ ($re = qr((??{$i++ < 10e4 ? $re : ''})));
6665			> Produces SIGSEGV.
6666
6667			Looks like a feature to me.
6668	root	1.387	%
6669	root	1.1	[Lukilein...]
6670	root	1.388	"Wie man ein BSE-Unix überhaupt bedienen kann..."
6671	root	1.387	%
6672	root	1.1	[hehe, the "critical thinking community", mainly located in the lesser
6673			intelligent parts of the earth named "USA";)]
6674
6675			"There are articles and studies showing that, at one time, all of Earth
6676			continents were on one side of the planet. What the stories don't explore
6677			is the question, if all the continents were on one side, what was on the
6678			other? The other side has been described as a tremendous gap [...]"
6679
6680			"We can see clear proof that the continents were all once connected by
6681			simply looking at a map of the Earth and seeing how the pieces fit. That
6682			would only mean that at one time, Earth was basically half a planet. If
6683			you were to syphon all the water off of Earth's surface, you would see a
6684			large gapping hole where the ocean has filled in this tremendous missing
6685			part of the Earth. Where did it go? Why is Earth only half a planet?"
6686	root	1.387	%
6687	root	1.1	[following cites are from Crypto-Gram 20010315]
6688			I'll just reprint this from their Web site: "iBallot.Com uses a number of
6689			security and encryption features that, when combined, provide a very high
6690			level of security throughout the entire voting process. The details of
6691			this process are proprietary, for obvious reasons. It does not make a
6692			great deal of sense to disclose how the iBallot.Com security system works
6693			only to have a hacker come into the system, read about the system's
6694			security, defeat the security and tamper with the voting process. For this
6695			reason, iBallot.Com does not publish its security processes. However, with
6696			the foregoing being said, the iBallot.Com system does employ encryption and
6697			secure server technology to ensure that the entire voting process is fair,
6698			accurate and not subject to tampering."
6699
6700			Encryption and secure server technology.... Boy, I certainly feel
6701			better. Good thing they don't disclose their security; if they did some
6702			hacker might read about it and break it. Who are these guys?
6703
6704			<http://www.iballot.com/faq2.cfm?docid=28>
6705	root	1.387	%
6706	root	1.1	It's too late; Microsoft fixed it. But just a few days ago there was one
6707			more Q/A between the second and third question. It read: "Will the virus
6708			impact my Macintosh if I am using a non-Microsoft e-mail program, such as
6709			Eudora? If you are using a Macintosh e-mail program that is not from
6710			Microsoft, we recommend checking with that particular company. But most
6711			likely other e-mail programs like Eudora are not designed to enable virus
6712			replication."
6713			<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/office/2001/virus_alert.asp>
6714	root	1.387	%
6715	root	1.1	[just some private thoughts]
6716			Ever asked yourself why your handheld irda communication is so slow?
6717
6718			IrOBEX (Irda Object Exchange): A standard made by Microsoft, and it really
6719			shows.
6720
6721			First of all, it is utterly inefficient in transfers: RTT totally dictates
6722			transfer speed, not a good thing with Irda (which has a high RTT). This
6723			totally circumvents the sliding windows irda protocol.
6724
6725			Also, the IrOBEX specification talks a lot about "Unicode" text without
6726			defining it (except through totally wrong descriptions like "Unicode
6727			is two bytes/character", showing their total lack of knowledge since
6728			this is just plain wrong. I wonder what they mean with "Unicode", some
6729			MS-proprietary format? Not unlikely, given what they did to iso-8859-1).
6730
6731			Reading through that document you will find that it would have been easy
6732			to find people doing a better job. Actually, I think even apes would come
6733			up with a saner protocol.
6734	root	1.387	%
6735	root	1.1	[voting by television, the american way...]
6736			"They [voters] were like, 'Who are all these people? I thought it was only Bush
6737			and Gore running,' " Tyson said.
6738
6739			Many voters believed the 10 candidates were running for different offices and
6740			cast votes for several of them, Tyson said. Some Spanish-speaking or Haitian
6741			voters may have had difficulty understanding directions, Tyson said.
6742	root	1.387	%
6743	root	1.1	IBM has withdrawn CPRM...
6744			<http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-201-4922288-0.html?tag=mn_hd>
6745			...and replaced it with something almost identical:
6746			<http://slashdot.org/yro/01/02/23/2134255.shtml>
6747			A good analysis by John Gilmore:
6748			<http://cryptome.org/cprm-smoke.htm>
6749	root	1.387	%
6750	root	1.1	[Midori-Linux FAQ]
6751			Q: What can I do about Netscape crashing?
6752	root	1.247	A: Any experienced user of Linux Netscape is used to
6753			seeing it crash and the included version of Linux Netscape
6754			is no exception. This is probably not good, but the product
6755			does not come with source code. The workaround is to run
6756	root	1.1	Netscape in a loop.
6757	root	1.387	%
6758	root	1.1	Subject: [reiserfs-list] Free Space - Where did it go?
6759	root	1.387	%
6760	root	1.1	[Technologieregion Karlsruhe (und andere)]
6761			marco: Die Region zwischen Stuttgart, Heilbronn und Karlsruhe produziert
6762	root	1.247	mehr als Laender wie Schweden, die Schweiz oder Spanien!
6763	root	1.1	marco: Im neuesten Technologiebarometer von wired stehen wir auf Platz 2
6764	root	1.247	hinter dem Silicon Valley in bezug auf Technologie und Infrastruktur
6765	root	1.387	%
6766	root	1.1	[2001-03-14, 3sat, Kulturzeit zum Absturz der MIR:]
6767			"ist mir egal"
6768	root	1.387	%
6769	root	1.1	From: Hans Reiser
6770			Subject: [reiserfs-list] fsck now uses lost and found!
6771
6772			Dad, make sure the docs get updated.
6773	root	1.387	%
6774	root	1.1	[debugging message found in the siemens data exchange software]
6775			hallole
6776	root	1.387	%
6777	root	1.1	I have seen that many drives either have a pathetically small queue or
6778			have completely broken tagged queueing. I guess thats what happens when
6779			most vendors target their hardware for micro$oft.
6780	root	1.387	%
6781	root	1.1	1925 With a drink so good, 'tis folly to be thirsty
6782			1929 The high sign of refreshment
6783			1929 The pause that refreshes
6784			1930 It had to be good to get where it is
6785			1932 The drink that makes a pause refreshing
6786			1935 The pause that brings friends together
6787			1937 STOP for a pause... GO refreshed
6788			1938 The best friend thirst ever had
6789			1939 Thirst stops here
6790			1942 It's the real thing
6791			1947 Have a Coke
6792			1961 Zing! what a REFRESHING NEW FEELING
6793			1963 Things go better with Coke
6794			1969 Face Uncle Sam with a Coke in your hand
6795			1979 Have a Coke and a smile
6796			1982 Coke is it!
6797			-- Coca-Cola slogans
6798	root	1.387	%
6799	root	1.1	[strings recently found in my /proc/cpuinfo]
6800			model name : Heavily Overclocked Pentium II (Klamath) (266Mhz/66Mhz FSB)
6801	root	1.387	%
6802	root	1.247	[02:24] <elmex> schmorp:
6803			[02:24] <elmex> ich wollte mal meine logik ueberpruefen an deiner erfahrung
6804	root	1.387	%
6805	root	1.388	[Die letzte Woche war zuviel für Paul]
6806	root	1.1	Nach mehrstuendigen Laptop-um-/-neu-/-rauf- und runterinstallationen
6807			erlitt unser allseits bekannter und beliebter RechnerHiWi
6808			islpaul.bettinger am heutigen Nachmittag einen Totalabsturz. Nach der
6809			Meldung "Die Anwendung 'Installiere Cheflaptop' wurde aufgrund eines
6810			ungueltigen Vorganges beendet" begann er sinnlose Lieder zu singen "Die
6811			Karawane zieht weiter, der Sultan haelt durch". Unmittelbar darauf
6812			wurde seine Brille blau, der Schriftzug "Allgemeine Schutzverletzung"
6813			erschien. Nach einem Reboot durch Roland (ehemaliger Fussballer, zum
6814			booten also gut geeignet), meldete Paul nur noch "Bitte Windows 2000 CD
6815			einlegen" (siehe dazu die vorige PTS-Mitteilung). Nach Einlegen einer
6816			Linux-Bootdiskette konnte Paul im Single User Modus wiederbelebt werden
6817			- allerdings nur mit einem Bruchteil seiner urspruenglichen Faehigkeiten
6818			(640k Speicher, 16bit Farbwahrnehmung, kein Plug&Play). Er plant nun eine
6819			Karriere als Windows Sysadmin oder Java Programmierer.
6820
6821			Beileidbekundungen und Spenden bitte an
6822			hi09@isl.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de
6823	root	1.387	%
6824	root	1.1	[RMS about gcc snapshots]
6825			From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
6826
6827			[...] Red Hat did make their own release from a snapshot, which was an
6828			uncool thing to do. [...]
6829	root	1.387	%
6830	root	1.1	"Als das Universum einige zehntausend Jahre alt war - logarithmisch
6831			betrachtet also vor relativ kurzer Zeit -, ..."
6832			[Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 3/2001, S. 38]
6833	root	1.387	%
6834	root	1.388	"Es ist ein wunderbar beglückendes Gefühl, wenn ein selbstgefertigtes
6835	root	1.1	Programm zum ersten Mal in die Rechenmaschine eingelesen wird, wenn die
6836	root	1.388	Maschine anschließend rechnet und die richtigen Resultate ausdruckt."
6837	root	1.1
6838	root	1.388	"Manche Programmierer erliegen dem Rausch dieses Gefühls so sehr,
6839			daß sie süchtig werden und über dem Programmieren andere Dinge
6840			vernachlässigen. Erfahrungsgemäß hört diese Sucht nach 0,5 bis 2 Jahren
6841			von selbst auf und macht dann häufig sogar einer gewissen Abneigung gegen
6842	root	1.1	die Maschinen Platz."
6843			[Prof. Dr. Karl Nickel (TH Karlsruhe), "ALGOL Praktikum", 1964]
6844	root	1.387	%
6845	root	1.1	My previous job, and some contract work I have done, involved writing
6846			software for Windows. My WORST problems were incompatibilities between
6847			Windows NT and Windows 95. The APIs do NOT, I repeat NOT! NOT! NOT!
6848			work the same on the various Windows flavors, as soon as you start
6849			doing non-trivial applications. Three times at least, portability
6850			problems from NT to Win95 cost me sleepless nights. Debugging stuff
6851			like that is hell when you don't have the source.
6852
6853			And when things break on Win95 where they ran on NT, what do you do,
6854			run a debugger on Win95, where a crash can (and will) bring down the
6855			whole system? Ugh, the horror.
6856	root	1.387	%
6857	root	1.1	> You know XOR is patented (yes, the logical bit operation XOR).
6858
6859			US Patent #4,197,590 held by NuGraphics, Inc.
6860	root	1.387	%
6861	root	1.1	Legend has it Microsoft once found a patent of theirs which IBM appeared
6862			to have infringed, and were very excited at the possibility of something
6863			to hold over IBM, so their lawyers met IBM's lawyers. The MS lawyers
6864			beamed "look at our patent you've infringed!" IBM's lawyers replied "look
6865			at this pile of our patents YOU'VE infringed... let's start with this
6866	root	1.247	one. A Tab key." MS suddenly realised they were outlawyered...
6867	root	1.387	%
6868	root	1.1	From: David Woodhouse
6869			> Okay, so if we are going to get real stupid about the whole thing, I
6870			> wonder if Microsloth is going to patent the patent?
6871
6872			Filing nuisance patents for obvious stuff which shouldn't ever get granted
6873			is a viable business method and as such is patentable in the US.
6874
6875			After all, what patent officer is going to point out the prior art?
6876	root	1.387	%
6877	root	1.1	http://vger.kernel.org/lkml/#s3-9
6878	root	1.387	%
6879	root	1.1	[recently on linux-kernel]
6880			From: Alan Cox
6881			> > Yeah. We can have this as part of the locale settings, changable by
6882			> > echoing the desired locale string to /proc/sys/kernel/lc_all.
6883	root	1.247	>
6884			> Just an idea, . . but isn't this something better done in userland?
6885	root	1.1
6886	root	1.247	Please remember this is an international list. For the benefit of certain
6887	root	1.1	users please mark all sarcasm with the word NOT or a simply face
6888	root	1.387	%
6889	root	1.1	From: Russell King
6890			Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:31:26 +0000 (GMT)
6891			To: Albert D. Cahalan
6892
6893			Albert D. Cahalan writes:
6894			> The units seem to vary. I suggest using fundamental SI units.
6895			> That would be meters, kilograms, seconds, and maybe a very
6896			> few others -- my memory fails me on this.
6897
6898			iirc, SI comes from France, and therefore it should be "metres"
6899
6900			[flames to /dev/null please] ;)
6901	root	1.387	%
6902	root	1.388	[11:19] <pho3nix> ich hoffe du bist dir im klaren darüber, das ein Mensch,
6903	root	1.1	der was von dir hielt, jetzt so beleidigt wurde, dass er nichts mehr mit
6904			dir zu tun haben will, COMMUNICATION END
6905	root	1.247	[11:19] <schmorp> pho3nix: ich weiss ja nochnichtmal, warum?
6906	root	1.387	%
6907	root	1.388	[über "Mediengestaltung"]
6908	root	1.247	[10:39] <elmex\|Zz> pho3nix: information mit desingt ueberlagern
6909			[10:40] <schmorp> elmex\|Zz: ueberlagern oder erestzen, das its hier die frage?
6910	root	1.387	%
6911	root	1.1	[perldoc perlembed]
6912			You can sometimes _write_faster_code_ in C, but you can always _write_code_faster_ in Perl.
6913	root	1.387	%
6914	root	1.247	[03:34] <JanMan> Arvoreen: elmex-werbung: "Nur echt elmex, wenn Lukas drinnsteckt" :)
6915	root	1.387	%
6916	root	1.247	[09:26] <JanMan> bevor du arbeiten auf lukas-server nimm den job als massenmoerder.
6917			[09:34] <JanMan> elmex: pass' auf, dass keine loop entsteht:
6918			nameserver->lukas_arsch->lukas->dein_arsch->du->name-server
6919	root	1.387	%
6920	root	1.1	[linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_nat_ftp.c]
6921			/* So there I am, in the middle of my `netfilter-is-wonderful'
6922			talk in Sydney, and someone asks `What happens if you try
6923			to enlarge a 64k packet here?'. I think I said something
6924			eloquent like `fuck'. */
6925	root	1.387	%
6926	root	1.1	[20:44] <elmex\|aw> ich werde mir nochmal ueberlegen ob ich heute nochmal hier her komme......
6927	root	1.387	%
6928	root	1.247	[09:40] <kiki> zu spaet
6929			[09:40] <JanMan> kiki: hey, blasen hilft jetzt auch nicht mehr...
6930			[09:41] <kiki> lutschen hat noch nie bei dir geholfen
6931			[09:41] <kiki> aushungern schon
6932			[09:41] <JanMan> elmex: ja, das hat mit blume + biene zu tun.
6933			[09:41] <elmex> ?
6934			[09:42] <elmex> JanMan: ich kenne mich schon sehr wohl damit aus. nur halt noch keine erfarung
6935	root	1.387	%
6936	root	1.1	[Sierpinski Triangle, by Rich Morin]
6937			for$y(0..31){for(0..31){print$_&$y?$":'*'}print$/}
6938	root	1.387	%
6939	root	1.1	[From RDFStore::Stanford::Digest::Util, which is a java library ported to
6940			perl:]
6941
6942			$SIG{__WARN__} = sub { return undef; }; #to take off the bloody utf warns
6943
6944			[now, as for some comments: it took me hours to debug code that used warn
6945			to, well, warn users but the users didn't see anything. The intent of the
6946			above code was obviously to get rid of the "illegal multibyte character"
6947			warning in perl. This is the typical way a java programmer reacts to bugs
6948			in his code: "I don't understand this computer thing anyway, so let's just
6949			disable the message and pray it works"]
6950	root	1.387	%
6951	root	1.1	[Another "one-liner" mail... Please spam him ;)]
6952			From: "Alexander Daskalov" <alexanderd@alexsmail.com>
6953			Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:44:11 -0800
6954			X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05>
6955
6956			I was just curious how many people are on ths gimp mailing list? Whoever+
6957			can see this message please reply with a simple answer like: i am, or+
6958			i'm on the list!, etc. Please reply, i thik everybody else might want to+
6959			know this same information, it also gives us a chance to know each other+
6960			better! So please reply to this message if on the mailing list!
6961	root	1.387	%
6962	root	1.1	[I was looking for ISO3166 && ISO639 tables in the corresponding "local"
6963			language, if applicable, and came up with this:]
6964			http://www.tieke.fi/sc32wg1/wg1n155.pdf
6965	root	1.387	%
6966	root	1.1	[imap-2000c/c-client/unix.c]
6967			* This file is dedicated to my dog, Unix, also known as Yun-chan and
6968			* Unix J. Terwilliker Jehosophat Aloysius Monstrosity Animal Beast. Unix
6969			* passed away at the age of 11 1/2 on September 14, 1996, 12:18 PM PDT, after
6970			* a two-month bout with cirrhosis of the liver.
6971	root	1.387	%
6972	root	1.1	[from qmail's maildir(5)]
6973			Many sites use Sun's Network Failure System (NFS), presumably because the
6974			operating system vendor does not offer anything else.
6975	root	1.387	%
6976	root	1.1	[Lukas Grundwald]
6977			Der Film scheint echt gut zu sein: geht viel kaputt.
6978	root	1.387	%
6979	root	1.1	[waiting for windows...]
6980			http://www.cool-pix-server.de/pix/microsoft/microsoft002.jpg
6981	root	1.387	%
6982	root	1.1	[x86 really is a cool design]
6983			> For our specific purposes, that's not important. We already flush the cache
6984			> before we create uncached regions (via ioremap_nocache). I understand that as a
6985			> general Linux feature, you can't ignore cache incoherency, but I don't think
6986			> it's a hard requirement.
6987
6988			Actually you can't ignore it or the processor will have a heart attack
6989			if the cached page mapping is used even speculatively. I've done some
6990			experimenting, if the page is mapped cached in one place, and UCWC in
6991			another, things will not work. Its extremely likely the processor will
6992			cease to function. Its not like having cached and uncached mappings of
6993			a page (which does work on the Intel processors, we use that feature in
6994			the agpgart and the DRM in fact.) When you mark a page UCWC, you better
6995			have removed all cached mappings or your asking for REAL trouble.
6996	root	1.387	%
6997	root	1.1	> once again. On the Debian group it's invariably "how do I load
6998			> Netscape?"
6999	root	1.247
7000	root	1.1	can't be. debian sounds more like: "who do i have to ask for using
7001			netscape, and do we all agree on /usr/local/bin/. ?"
7002	root	1.387	%
7003	root	1.1	The COBOL language was created specifically to reduce the amount of
7004			commenting necessary in a program, because the English-like sentence
7005			structure could be read and understood by humans. The FORTRAN language was
7006			created so that math types could "talk" in a language more familiar to
7007			them, letting the computer take care of the details about how to perform
7008			the specified task step-by-step.
7009	root	1.387	%
7010	root	1.1	There is an old programmer's rule.
7011
7012			"Documentation? Too bad. If the code was damned hard to write, it should
7013			be damned hard to understand."
7014	root	1.387	%
7015	root	1.1	[Linus]
7016			Tabs are 8 characters. They are NOT adjustable. Never have been, never
7017			will be. Anybody who thinks tabs are anything but 8 chars apart is just
7018			wrong. It's that simple.
7019	root	1.387	%
7020	root	1.1	[yes, thank you, it helps a lot ;)]
7021	root	1.247	09:31] *** Joins: Unkn0wn [chaos@AC880AE2.ipt.aol.com] has joined #schmorp
7022	root	1.1	[09:32] <Unkn0wn> Nah, I won't alert yas. Was just cruisin around and found your
7023			site of H-games and thought bout thankin you for puttin it up. I figure most ppl
7024			never take a moment to thank someone. =P <Bows, and heads back to #VB on
7025	root	1.247	Undernet>
7026	root	1.387	%
7027	root	1.1	[character normalization might be harmful]
7028			> In short, normalizing prior to digesting AVOIDS allowing
7029			> inconsequential changes to change the digest. If I have misunderstood the
7030			> point of the section cited, I'm sure someone will correct me.
7031
7032			Your scenario is correct as far as it goes. But consider a signed
7033			document that contains an element or attribute named
7034	root	1.388	"autorisation_de_découvert" ("credit limit").
7035	root	1.1	A forged version of the document that contained the name
7036			"autorization_de_de'couvert" (where ' = COMBINING ACUTE) would pass
7037			a normalization + signature check. However, the document processor
7038			might well fail to recognize it as having the semantics of "credit limit"
7039			and treat it as unknown and to be ignored. Bad news: the forger
7040			now appears to have unlimited credit!
7041	root	1.387	%
7042	root	1.1	["my spam"]
7043			99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other
7044			numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of
7045			protestors and disidents). Half of what's left comes from either .kr
7046			or .br. I'm fully in favor of an Internet Death Penalty against those
7047			TLD's and associated domains till they clean up their acts.
7048	root	1.387	%
7049	root	1.1	[from linux-kernel]
7050			Hello Linus, my name is Rick Jones. I am the person at Hewlett-Packard
7051			who drafted the "so _obviously_ stupid" sendfile() interface of HP-UX.
7052			[... snip ...]
7053			never forget what leads to the downfall of the protagonist in Greek
7054			tragedy...
7055	root	1.387	%
7056	root	1.1	From: "Mike A. Harris"
7057	root	1.247
7058	root	1.1	On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
7059			>---- A notice to spammers ----
7060			>Unsolicited electronic mail advertisements to my email address is
7061			>strictly prohibited. Pursuant to California Business and Professions
7062			>Code, Section 17538.45, senders of unsolicited electronic mail
7063			>advertisements to me may be subject to a civil penalty of $50 per
7064			>message plus attorney's fees.
7065			[SNIP long sig]
7066	root	1.247
7067	root	1.1	O - K then. Nice sig. Too bad that it is at least as big as
7068			most spam mailings themselves. Instead of preventing spam,
7069			all you're doing is contributing to it.
7070	root	1.247
7071	root	1.1	I just delete spam now as it is easiest most of the time.
7072			However fortunately, the below sig comes from a static and easily
7073			procmailable address.
7074	root	1.247
7075	root	1.1	One more note is that no law of California, nor anywhre else
7076			means jack shit 50 meters away from your keyboard, so it is all
7077			just a waste of bandwidth.
7078	root	1.387	%
7079	root	1.388	rm: Entfernen von Verzeichnis »./xxx/po« nicht möglich: Die Datei existiert bereits
7080	root	1.387	%
7081	root	1.1	[during a toilet session, this flashed/flushed through my mind/brain]
7082			/bin/true --version \| read && echo eek, a gnuzifist\!
7083	root	1.387	%
7084	root	1.1	[stefan thought this would be better]
7085	root	1.247	/bin/true --version \| read && rm -rf / # get rid of non-posix Windows stuff.
7086	root	1.387	%
7087	root	1.1	[Java-Design]
7088	root	1.247	[02:53] <schmorp> in c 1 stunde suchen und probieren und dann 7 zeilen
7089			[02:53] <JanMan> schmorp: nein. in C 2 minuten suchen.
7090			[02:54] <JanMan> ich weiss nicht, an welchen level ich wo patchen soll.
7091	root	1.1	[02:55] <JanMan> es gibt eine Key, eine RSAKey, eine RSAKeyPublic/RSAKeyPrivate
7092	root	1.247	klasse, alles muell.
7093			[02:56] <JanMan> (ueberall noch ein praefix SSH..)
7094			[02:56] <JanMan> und die sachen sind ueber SSHRSAPublicKeyFile abgewickelt...
7095			[02:57] <JanMan> klar gibt es auch SSHRSAPublicKeyString.
7096	root	1.387	%
7097	root	1.247	[02:38] <JanMan> Lexikon: Java - siehe "ins Knie ficken, objektorientiert"
7098	root	1.387	%
7099	root	1.247	[02:30] <JanMan> schmorp: java has too many keywords but lacks an important one.
7100	root	1.1	[02:32] <JanMan> schmorp: yes: "broken". Java needs a "broken" keyword. "Error:
7101	root	1.247	missing "broken" but class seems "broken".
7102	root	1.387	%
7103	root	1.1	On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 09:34:08PM -0500, Michael Rothwell wrote:
7104			The man pages for open, read and write say that if a file is opened
7105			using the O_NONBLOCK flag, then read() and write() will always return
7106			immediately and not block the calling process.
7107
7108			the man pages are wrong
7109
7110			--cw
7111	root	1.387	%
7112	root	1.1	From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
7113			...
7114			My take on this is that khttpd is unmaintained garbage.
7115	root	1.387	%
7116	root	1.1	[Subject: line on linux-kernel]
7117			Re: That horrible hack from hell called A20
7118	root	1.387	%
7119	root	1.1	From: "Vladimir V. Saveliev"
7120			> tar cvpf - foo \| ( cd reiserfs; tar xvpf - )
7121			> Halfway through it gets a kernel oops and
7122
7123			How fast does it oops?
7124	root	1.387	%
7125	root	1.1	From: Stefan Traby <stefan@hello-penguin.com>
7126
7127			On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:01:05PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
7128			> NFSv2 has a 32bit file offset. Thus the largest file on NFSv2 you want to
7129			> touch is 2Gig.
7130
7131			In theory, yes.
7132			In practice you don't want to touch NFS under Linux at all, so the
7133			2GB limit is a theoretical one. :)
7134	root	1.387	%
7135	root	1.247	[10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7136			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \| \| \| \| \|
7137			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \| \|-----\| \| \| \|
7138			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-------------------------\| \| \| \|
7139			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \| .---------------------------.\| \|-------\|
7140			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \| \|Welcome on elmex.x-paste.de\|\| \| \|
7141			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \| `---------------------------'\| \| \|
7142			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|----------\| \|-----------------------\| \|
7143			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \|-\| \| \| \| \|
7144			[10:44] <elmex> \|-\| \| \| \| \|-----\| \|
7145			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|------------\|-------------- \| \| \|
7146			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-----------------------------------\|-\| \|----\|
7147			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \|-\| \| \| \| \|
7148			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \| \| \| \| \|
7149			[10:44] <elmex> \|-\| \| \| \| \| \|
7150			[10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7151	root	1.387	%
7152	root	1.1	Any committee IQ: average intelligence of members, divided by headcount.
7153	root	1.387	%
7154	root	1.1	"There were a lot of snickers in my course... The students looked at me
7155			like I was a stegosaurus still walking around when I told them that the
7156			[irrational spending of many dot-coms] was not sustainable. You have to
7157			take in more money then you put out, or you're toast."
7158			-- Ken Morse, managing director, MIT Entrepreneurship Center
7159	root	1.387	%
7160	root	1.1	"Wenn _ich_ das sage, darf ich das."
7161			[Lukas Grunwald]
7162	root	1.387	%
7163	root	1.1	[about having sponsoring message in YOUR syslog]
7164			From: Felix von Leitner <leitner@convergence.de>
7165			Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:33:13 +0100
7166			To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
7167
7168			Thus spake Wojciech Puchar (wojtek@wojtek.from.pl):
7169			> > To view list of copyright holders type `copyright' at the shell
7170			> > prompt.
7171			> very good. maybe implement /proc/info/copyrights /proc/info/sponsors
7172			> /proc/info/authors?
7173	root	1.247
7174	root	1.1	Grand idea.
7175			Let's also add /proc/info/spammers,
7176			/proc/info/people-who-bothered-linus,
7177			/proc/info/people-who-disagree-with-hans-reiser,
7178			/proc/info/people-who-were-flamed-by-alan-cox and
7179			/proc/info/people-who-marc-lehmann-dislikes.
7180	root	1.247
7181	root	1.1	NOT.
7182			[...]
7183	root	1.387	%
7184	root	1.1	[Nick and I used to fight a LOT]
7185			Subject: Re: suggestion for gimp 1.3 and later
7186			From: Nick Lamb <njl98r@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
7187	root	1.247
7188	root	1.1	On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:29:41AM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
7189			> I think the best way would be to make any gtk label/text widget be
7190			> selectable. I don't know why this has not been done so far, but it might be
7191			> an interesting experiment.
7192	root	1.247
7193	root	1.1	Yes, I've often thought this. And everyone knows that if Marc and I agree
7194			about something it must be right (?) or at least it's in no-one's interest
7195			to disagree...
7196	root	1.387	%
7197	root	1.1	http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LNUX&d=2y WINNER
7198			http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RHAT&d=2y 2nd prize!
7199			http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CALD&d=1y 3rd prize!
7200			[und Lukas sagt:]
7201			... man beachte die logarithmische Skala!
7202	root	1.387	%
7203	root	1.1	[from "how to photograph a total eclipse", in the nasa 1999 solar eclipse
7204			report:]
7205			... The best strategy is to choose one aperture or f/number and bracket
7206			the exposures over a range of shutter speeds (i.e. 1/1000 down to 1
7207			second). Rehearsing this sequence is highly recommended since great
7208			excitment accompanies totality and there is little time to think.
7209	root	1.387	%
7210	root	1.1	[boy, now I know why I dislike GNOME]
7211			http://www.helixcode.com/~miguel/bongo-bong.html
7212	root	1.387	%
7213	root	1.1	["kORBit, a CORBA implementation for the linux-kernel"]
7214			From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
7215			Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:34:39 +0100
7216
7217			Alexander Viro wrote:
7218			> > It was just an example. Basically, you'd be able to do in with just
7219			> > about any language that has ORBit bindings.
7220			>
7221			> Yeah... "Infinitely extendable API" and all such. Roughly translated
7222			> as "we can't live without API bloat". Frankly, judging by the GNOME
7223			> codebase people who designed the thing are culturally incompatible with
7224			> UNIX.
7225
7226			Agree. I remember a big complaint about Windows was the huge APIs,
7227			compared with Unix' tiny list of syscalls. And then I saw the GNOME
7228			docs... ew!
7229	root	1.387	%
7230	root	1.1	> Good question. The whole thing makes me nervous... in fact, perhaps we
7231			> should really consider using the BIOS INT 15h interrupt to enter
7232			> protected mode?
7233
7234			From my experience with BIOS authors, only if Windows 98 uses the same function
7235			with the same arguments, the same stuff top of stack and the same segment
7236			registers loaded ;)
7237	root	1.387	%
7238	root	1.1	> > there... If someone wants to back-port the driver to 2.2, this makes it
7239			[...]
7240			> backports hurt forward progress.
7241
7242			beware of content free dogma
7243	root	1.387	%
7244	root	1.1	> What operating systems use local time as their basic clock these days? Just
7245			> wondering.
7246
7247			Any IBM PC compatible machine that runs under at least one Microsoft OS
7248			has to keep the battery-backed CMOS clock chip in local time, because
7249			unlike most other operating systems (e.g., any Unix flavour), none of
7250			Microsoft's CMOS clock drivers have a UTC option. Rather disappointing
7251			and every year an unneeded hassle after DST switches on multi-OS
7252			machines. From discussions with Microsoft staff, I have to conclude that
7253			no-one within Microsoft has even understood the problem.
7254
7255			Markus [G. Kuhn]
7256	root	1.387	%
7257	root	1.1	>Keith,
7258	root	1.247	>
7259	root	1.1	>Please consider the attached patch for inclusion in all future versions
7260			>of the modutils depmod program for compatiblity with RedHat and
7261			>RedHat derived Linux distributions.
7262
7263			I have a big problem with Redhat. They make incompatible changes to
7264			utilities, do not feed patches back to maintainers then expect the rest
7265			of the world to follow their lead. The -i and -m flags to modutils are
7266			not the only example, I recently found IA64 and Sparc patches they had
7267			added to modutils code and not bothered to tell me. Other distributors
7268			are much better about sending me patches, Debian and SuSe in particular
7269			do the right thing.
7270
7271			Since "-F System.map" in modutils is equivalent to "-m System.map -i"
7272			and works on all distributions, not just Redhat, the "-m -i" patch is
7273			unnecessary. Consider this my protest against bad habits by
7274			distributors, they created the mess with their lack of communication
7275			and they have to fix it.
7276	root	1.387	%
7277	root	1.1	10:44] <JanMan> falls Du mal DB2 crashen musst:
7278			[10:45] <JanMan> connect reset;
7279			[10:45] <JanMan> connect to sample user db2admin using db2admin;
7280			[10:45] <JanMan> select * from employee where year(birthdate)=1999 and firstnme<'';
7281	root	1.387	%
7282	root	1.1	[a perl quine, by ilmari karonen:]
7283			printf+(q(printf+(q(%s))x2))x2
7284	root	1.387	%
7285	root	1.1	On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 07:22:34PM -0500, M&M Samsel wrote:
7286			> You see I have about 10 years of commercial development experience and
7287			> pretty much know business procedures from huge corporations and business
7288			> midgets and what I should expect or not.
7289
7290			You've not demonstrated your 10 years of experience.
7291			You've just proved that killfiles are useful.
7292	root	1.387	%
7293	root	1.1	[once upon a time, when poul started gnomeicu:]
7294			gnomeicu: Rohrbruch (beim Speichern der Konfiguration)
7295	root	1.387	%
7296	root	1.1	[subject from a thread on the gcc steering commitee mailinglist when
7297			glibc-2.2 was released]
7298			Re: glibc 2.2 a fait accompli
7299	root	1.387	%
7300	root	1.1	[08:05] <JanMan> elmex: Fehlt Dir einmal Klopapier, versuche es mit GNU m4. :)
7301	root	1.387	%
7302	root	1.1	# root:0Ayj0AZhTi4O2:11272:0:99999:7:::
7303			# kma:1NXgYu6J80kvc:11225:0:99999:7:::
7304			# elmex:0ImdHgG2TEQAE:11273:0:99999:7: : :
7305	root	1.387	%
7306	root	1.1	<JanMan_> soll ich das ganze uber einen perl-hash erzeugen ?
7307			<schmorp> klar.. %hash->generate
7308			<JanMan_> oesi siedelt nach de: %oesi->degenerate
7309	root	1.387	%
7310	root	1.1	[From "How the mind of a php programmer works", by Marc Lehmann]
7311
7312			(1) it works on msie 5 (alt.: netscape 4) so the code is
7313			standards-compliant.
7314			(2) an entity looks like "&" entityname ";"
7315			(2a) [conclusion] the fragment href="xxx&notes=77" doesn't contain a valid
7316			entity, so the browser must use it as is.
7317			(2b) [corollary] "<blubb>" is not a valid html element, so the browser
7318			must react according to what I assume it should do (display, ignore).
7319			(2c) in some programs I assume differently than in others.
7320	root	1.387	%
7321	root	1.1	[Oh no, Don Becker again ;)]
7322			> which one is the linksys card, so I have included the entire listing. (Is it
7323			> even listed? Perhaps this is my problem.)
7324
7325			That's your problem.
7326
7327			There is no PCI Ethernet device listed.
7328
7329			Check that the card is fully inserted into the PCI slot.
7330			(If it's an ISA card, then it's not fully inserted into the PCI slot ;->)
7331	root	1.387	%
7332	root	1.1	> > sure request_module _does_not_ accept funky module names. Why allow
7333			> > people to shoot themselves (and, by extension, all other Linux users
7334			> > out there) in the foot?
7335
7336			> I thought that was the whole purpose of Unix/Linux?
7337
7338			True! Very true! Unix/Linux requires that the user shoot
7339			themselves in the foot. Windows automates that process and does it
7340			for the user, thus making foot shooting user friendly. :-)
7341	root	1.387	%
7342	root	1.1	> Turn on encryption, and try sending attachements > 1MB and tell me if
7343			> you see any problems, like emails sitting in /var/spool/mqueue for a day
7344			> or two until they go out. I can guarantee you will.
7345
7346			No encryption use; and the maximal message size is 1Mb (for sanity's sake,
7347			after somebody sent a PowerPoint presentation (some 3Mb), then thought that
7348			perhaps the target didn't have PowerPoint, and sent it again with the
7349			PowerPoint package, then noticed this might not work either, and sent it
7350			_again_ with the full MS Office attached... the joys of sysadminning ;-)
7351			--
7352			Dr. Horst H. von Brand mailto:vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl
7353	root	1.387	%
7354	root	1.1	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com> writes:
7355
7356			> "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU> writes:
7357			>
7358			> > Arguably though the bug is in glibc, in that if it's using signals
7359			> > behinds the scenes, it should have passed SA_RESTART to sigaction.
7360			>
7361			> Why are you talking such a nonsense?
7362
7363			[Note to self: remove kitten from keyboard before writing mail.]
7364	root	1.387	%
7365	root	1.388	[Simon Budig, nachdem er erfahren hatte, daß Lars Eilebrecht nicht wusste,
7366			daß Leerzeichen in URLs nicht erlaubt sind:]
7367			"Also, Lars, das hätte ich nicht gedacht, jetzt hast du aber jede Menge
7368	root	1.1	Gurupunkte bei mir verloren."
7369	root	1.387	%
7370	root	1.1	[amazon readers about the Annotated C Standard by Herberdt Schildt,
7371			which is much less expensive then the official version (search also for
7372			Bullschildt below ;)]
7373
7374			"The price difference reflects the value of the annotations. At no time
7375			do the annotations clarify, enhance, or supplement the standard."
7376	root	1.387	%
7377	root	1.1	Stefan Traby wrote:
7378			>
7379			> On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 08:43:04AM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
7380			>
7381			> > We have a few websites floating around, [...]
7382			>
7383			> Many mirrors are also out of sync. Especially the primary server :)
7384	root	1.387	%
7385	root	1.1	> This happens with both ext2 and reiserfs, since at least 2.2.15.
7386
7387			I installed noflushd on my laptop, which was running 2.4.0-test6, and
7388			it did the same thing.
7389
7390			Sorry I can't offer more info. Someone spilt a glass of water on it about
7391			a week ago. :(
7392
7393			--Jack
7394	root	1.387	%
7395	root	1.388	"Kalk hat diese Waschmaschine getötet"
7396	root	1.387	%
7397	root	1.1	[It is] best to confuse only one issue at a time.
7398			-- K&R
7399	root	1.387	%
7400	root	1.1	<elmex> JanMan: "\|\|01:42:20\|\| <elmex> schmorp: jo, die sprache muss man nicht erklaeren"
7401	root	1.387	%
7402	root	1.1	[please kids, don't try this at home]
7403			indent -kr -l78 -lc78 -lps -i8 -br -pcs -psl -bbo -bad -bap -cs -nbc -nhnl -nss
7404	root	1.387	%
7405	root	1.1	http://www.attrition.org/gallery/ms/kmfms.jpg
7406	root	1.387	%
7407	root	1.1	[PApp.pm]
7408			$modules => { "" => "" };
7409	root	1.387	%
7410	root	1.388	Das einzig sichere Mittel gegen Migräne ist das Entfernen des Kopfes.
7411	root	1.387	%
7412	root	1.1	<JanMan> elmex: Sprichwort "Relaye doch bei dnx, dann kriegst Du nix." :)
7413	root	1.387	%
7414	root	1.1	[From Russel Coker's .sig]
7415			> --
7416			> If you can't program in C, PERL, and shell scripts then don't call yourself a
7417			> Unix administrator. Every idiot on the net is claiming to be a Unix admin. :(
7418	root	1.387	%
7419	root	1.1	[the two sides of the medal]
7420			From: "David Schwartz"
7421
7422			> Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was increased from
7423			> 100 to 10000, the time to check for active sockets with poll()
7424			> increased by a factor of only 6.5. That's a sublinear increase in time,
7425			> pretty spiffy.
7426
7427			Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was decreased from 10,000
7428			to 100, the time to check for active sockets with poll() decreased by a
7429			factor of only 6.5. Shouldn't it be more like 100? Sounds like Solaris' poll
7430			implementation is horribly broken for the most common case.
7431	root	1.387	%
7432	root	1.1	[lukas grunwald...]
7433	root	1.388	[ich sag' dir, ] ... am nächsten Tag brüllt der mich vielleicht per e-mail an ...
7434	root	1.387	%
7435	root	1.1	[from linux-kernel, about the rtl8139 network card]
7436			> (After looking at the specification for the 8139, I am acctually ashamed
7437			> of having bough one.
7438
7439			Not an uncommon thought :)
7440	root	1.387	%
7441	root	1.1	From: Stefan Traby
7442
7443			Hi Marc !
7444
7445			keycode 115 = ISO_Next_Group
7446			keycode 116 = ISO_Prev_Group
7447			keycode 117 = ISO_Level3_Shift
7448
7449			Finde ich witzig, man erspart sich den lock-screensaver :)
7450	root	1.387	%
7451	root	1.1	[I hope you get the point(s)...]
7452			From: Alex LIVINGSTON <alex@agsm.edu.au>
7453			Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:12:46 +1100
7454			To: <tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov>
7455
7456			At 07:40 +0000 2000-10-06, ken@halcyon.com wrote:
7457			>But the thing is: mm/dd/yy[yy] is in widespread use (US), as is
7458			>dd/mm/yy[yy] (much of Europe, I'm told).
7459
7460			Slight refinement: dd/mm/[yy]yy. Used in all European countries - and
7461			all countries colonized by a European country at one time or another
7462			which haven't had a strong US influence since, and probably all
7463			remaining Asian, African, and Pacific countries - that don't use
7464			[yy]yy-mm-dd. mm/dd/yy[yy] is restricted almost entirely to the US
7465			and a few neighbors. I would hesitate to say it is in widespread use.
7466
7467			>[yy]yy-mm-dd was used
7468			>in Japan even before the ISO standard came out.
7469
7470			And in China, and in Sweden, and in Hungary, ... (possibly with different
7471			separators). Also in the Arab world, in the sense that the digits (all of
7472			them) appear in the same order from left to right, only Arabic is written
7473			right to left.
7474
7475			>But no culture
7476			>has ever used [yy]yy-dd-mm format, and there is absolutely
7477			>nothing to recommend it, so there is no reason to expect anyone
7478			>to adopt it. Yes, the perverse can use that format just to
7479			>confound us, but in practice one can safely assume that a
7480			>nnnn-nn-nn date is in yyyy-mm-dd format.
7481
7482			Thanks Ken. You've put it much better and more concisely than I could have.
7483
7484			--Alex
7485	root	1.387	%
7486	root	1.1	[recently, on the tulip driver mailing list]
7487			From: Donald Becker <becker@scyld.com>
7488			To: "Jon.Hinks" <Jon.Hinks@berkeley-ifa.co.uk>
7489
7490			[most of the reply snipped...]
7491
7492			> The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It
7493			> may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than this addressee, nor may
7494			> it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Berkeley
7495
7496			[[ The rest of the boilerplate omitted. ]]
7497
7498			These terms do not apply. You have mailed to a published list. You hold
7499			the copyright to your writings, but by submitting questions to the list you
7500			grant the list publisher (me) the right to publish in this list and related
7501			forums. "Related forums" may be collected archives of the list on any media,
7502			and quotes from questions in FAQs.
7503
7504			(Long boilerplate appendages like this notice annoy me. Automatically
7505			attached copyright notices can never unilaterally extend your rights, so why
7506			try to claim that they do?)
7507	root	1.387	%
7508	root	1.1	On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Andre Hedrick wrote:
7509
7510			> void go_take_a_dump (float load)
7511			> {
7512			> if (pull_down_pants() && purge_bowles() && wipe_anus() && pull_up_pants())
7513			> flush(load);
7514			> else
7515			> wear(load);
7516			> }
7517
7518			But here you make another classic mistake. Consider the case where
7519			purge_bowels() fails (-EWOULDBLOCK?).
7520
7521			In that case, you don't actually execute the subsequent two procedure
7522			calls, which I'm sure we all agree is a suboptimal state of affairs.
7523
7524			--
7525			dwmw2
7526	root	1.387	%
7527	root	1.1	Factoid: 90% of all patents are never challenged, while 80% of those that
7528			are are overturned.
7529	root	1.387	%
7530	root	1.1	"Going into court is throwing the dice."
7531	root	1.387	%
7532	root	1.1	[Dipl. Ing. W***** D*****]
7533			"Lukas, eins muss dir klar sein, die ganze Kryptographie ist doch
7534	root	1.388	für den Arsch, wenn ich ein Stück von dem Originaltext habe und den
7535			verschlüsselten Text, knack' ich dir jeden Schlüssel in 50 Stunden."
7536	root	1.387	%
7537	root	1.1	[some discussion between reiserfs enthusiasts:]
7538			Stefan: oh shit, everything coredumps, I'll just reboot.
7539			Marc gives some dumb comments.
7540			Stefan: No, I'll first check it with reiserfsck.
7541			Marc: Yeah.. and?
7542			Stefan: "reiserfsck: no reiserfs found"
7543			Marc: Oh, the superblock is damaged. Maybe you should just try the backup superblock...
7544	root	1.387	%
7545	root	1.1	[t-online is just sooo cool:]
7546			Subject: mail failed, returning to sender
7547			From: <MAILER-DAEMON@fmrl01.sul.t-online.de>
7548
7549			\|------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------\|
7550			<service@t-online.de> ... 550 Mailbox quota exceeded / Mailbox voll.
7551			\|------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------\|
7552	root	1.387	%
7553	root	1.1	[a play with a well-known-signature:]
7554			Deadlock, n.:
7555			Deceased Rasterman.
7556	root	1.387	%
7557	root	1.1	[Jeff Williams & friends]
7558			ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-bremen.de/pub/doc/internet-drafts/draft-terrell-ip-spec-ipv7-ipv8-addr-cls-00.txt
7559			http://IPv8.vrx.net/
7560			http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08030.html
7561	root	1.387	%
7562	root	1.1	[some .signature]
7563			This message has been ROT-13 encrypted twice for extra security.
7564	root	1.387	%
7565	root	1.1	[Andreas Mueller-Maghun for ICANN!]
7566			Allein der Kandidat des Chaos-Computer-Clubs (CCC) Hamburg, der schon
7567	root	1.388	mehr als 1.100 Unterstützungserklärungen erhalten hat, dürfte nach
7568			Einschätzung des arbeitskreises die Bedingung für eine Basiskandidatur
7569			zum ICANN-Direktorium schon jetzt erfüllen. Ausgerechnet er hat es aber
7570			nicht für nötig gehalten, auf die Anfrage der Behindertenvertreter zu
7571	root	1.1	reagieren. Seine Webseiten zeugen zudem von einem "Sicherheitskonzept",
7572			das Usern mit Sehbehinderung vor lauter technischen Barrieren keine
7573	root	1.388	Zugangsmöglichkeiten bietet. Der Arbeitskreis hält einen Vertreter solcher
7574			Positionen für unwählbar.
7575	root	1.1
7576			Jens Bertrams (Pressesprecher)
7577	root	1.387	%
7578	root	1.1	From: (Albert Y. C. Lai)
7579			Newsgroups: comp.lang.functional
7580			Subject: Re: what is "functional" (Re: Macros)
7581
7582			Jerzy Karczmarczuk writes:
7583
7584			> Their opinion: "well, everybody knows that this is not professional,
7585			> nobody uses functional languages, all your colleagues suggest that we
7586			> should learn Lex and Yacc, etc. -
7587			> but WHAT A PLEASURE AND FUN was to write these programs in Haskell.
7588			> Almost no run-time errors, ever!"
7589
7590			A professor at my school got the opposite opinion from her students.
7591			She introduced ML (along with two other languages) as part of a course
7592			on the principles of programming languages in the third year. The
7593			students' opinion: this is such an annoyingly pedantic language, it
7594			refuses to let me run my program and get some partial though wrong
7595			results simply because I make a mistake!
7596
7597			In other words, given that humans are bound to make mistakes, the
7598			students at my school prefer to see them manifested as run-time
7599			errors.
7600
7601			So I look at your email address. Ah, you are in Europe and I am in
7602			North America. I guess that's why. Dijkstra is probably right about
7603			European programmers liking to do programming right and American
7604			programmers liking to chase after bugs.
7605	root	1.387	%
7606	root	1.1	On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:15:09PM +0200, Werner Almesberger wrote:
7607			> yodaiken@fsmlabs.com wrote:
7608			> > This call shifts delivered signal numbers up so that
7609			> > "special" POSIX signals [.. like KILL] can be delivered to a process.
7610			>
7611			> Kind of a SIGOVERKILL ... yes, that could work.
7612	root	1.387	%
7613	root	1.1	"The posix programmer knows the availability of everything, but the cost
7614			of nothing."
7615	root	1.387	%
7616	root	1.1	[after the linux-kernel list was moved to a new machine]
7617			Jeffrey Hundstad wrote:
7618			>
7619			> So tell us about this new machine. OS? Filesystem? Memory?
7620			> CPU?
7621
7622			Root password? :)
7623
7624			John.Fulmer
7625	root	1.387	%
7626	root	1.1	I think there is a world market for about five computers.
7627
7628			Thomas J. Watson (Chairman, IBM) 1943
7629	root	1.387	%
7630	root	1.1	> NO. They can/will use RAW_IO IF this is available to them. If not, they
7631			> will have to provide a proper kernel driver for their hardware. I know
7632			> which I prefer...
7633
7634			Sure. And keep that dusty 2.4.3 kernel around just in case you someday need
7635			to upgrade the firmware for your disk, and the (binary!) kernel module only
7636			works with that one. Don't forget the 2.4.15ac12 which is for your USB
7637			scanner, and also the 2.6.7-12 (Red Hat) which is the only one with the
7638			updater for the new SCSI controller.
7639			--
7640			Horst von Brand
7641	root	1.387	%
7642	root	1.1	[de.comp.lang.iso-c++]
7643
7644			>Nicht alles was Standard ist, muss auch implementiert werden.
7645
7646			[...]
7647
7648			Nicht alles, was hinkt, ist ein Vergleich.
7649	root	1.387	%
7650	root	1.1	[Drew Sanford about why not to do real-time by throwing faster hardware
7651			at your problem:]
7652
7653			The F4 Fantom fighter. The plane was essentially a large block of metal, with
7654			a few advantagously aerodynamic surfaces, and big f****** engines. If you
7655			had engine trouble in a Fantom ...you had trouble.
7656	root	1.387	%
7657	root	1.1	[Hans Reiser, on /bin/cp.. ;)]
7658			cp is inherently inefficient.
7659	root	1.387	%
7660	root	1.1	>I thought disk drives contained vacuums, thus the extensive concern over
7661			>breaking seals on them.
7662
7663			Air pressure is 1Kg/cm^2. I have never seen a hard drive case that looked
7664			nearly strong enough to take such pressure. Basically if you can't jump on a
7665			hard drive then it's not strong enough!
7666
7667			...
7668
7669			There's a story that Dave Cutler (VMS and WNT architect) when he was at DEC
7670			did a test on a DEC hard drive by blowing cigar smoke into the drive which
7671			killed it properly. DEC then greatly enhanced their drive air filters. It
7672			could be just an urban myth though.
7673
7674			Russell Coker
7675	root	1.387	%
7676	root	1.1	>I've unsubscribed our somewhat less than intelligent friend.
7677			>Ah, Internet for the masses. What a wonderful idea.
7678
7679			Yeah, let's have an IQ test before you're allowed to buy a modem.
7680	root	1.387	%
7681	root	1.1	On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 02:40:33PM +0200, Marc Lehmann wrote:
7682			> "Yury Yu. Rupasov" wrote:
7683			> > All my current benchmarks show that reiserfs works correctly on
7684			> > deleting.
7685			>
7686			> Just a sidenote: you don't test correctness with benchmarks :(
7687
7688			Wrong. Yury does.
7689			:(
7690
7691			--
7692			Stefan
7693	root	1.387	%
7694	root	1.1	"Jeff V. Merkey" writes:
7695			> I will provide a tool that decodes and repairs NTFS volumes to those
7696			> folks who run into this problem, but our agreements with Microsoft do
7697			> not allow us to distribute it for any purpose other than to assist
7698			> Microsoft customers who have corrupted drives. Also, this tool is
7699			> dependent on the DDK being present to run as it has dependencies on the
7700			> DDK DLL's, so you'll need to install the DDK to use it.
7701
7702			DDK == "Disk Death Kit"?
7703
7704			Ian Soboroff ian@cs.umbc.edu
7705	root	1.387	%
7706	root	1.1	[very instructional movie, if you get what I mean...]
7707	root	1.388	00:30-02:05 (13) ( -35) Kabel 1 Das Mädchen am Ende der Straße The
7708	root	1.1	Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane Psychodrama - KAN/F/USA - 1976 -
7709	root	1.388	Regie: Nicolas Gessner * Die 13-jährige Rynn (Jodie Foster) lebt allein in
7710			einer alten Villa und hütet ein schreckliches Geheimnis.
7711	root	1.387	%
7712	root	1.1	[Einsichten in die "Kommunikation"]
7713			> > > Ich beschreibe dir, was in dem Moment an Eindruecken durch meinen
7714			> > > Kopf geht - in dem Augenblick bin ich Besucher und sehe was
7715			> > > mir gefaellt oder nicht - das ist wie ein Schmierzettel. Die
7716			> > > Ausarbeitung der Ideen kommt danach im Gespraech. Du packst solche
7717			> > > Sachen anders an - das seh ich ein. Aber ich bin mit dieser
7718			> > > Art chaos bisher immer ans Ziel gekommen. Was ich mach will -
7719			> > > machen muss - ist Feedback generieren. Ich lass Versuchsballons
7720			> > > aufsteigen und schau zu, wie sie entweder fliegen oder abgeschossen
7721			> > > werden. Dann reagier ich auf das Ergebnis.
7722	root	1.387	%
7723	root	1.388	[Mitch, als Erklärung dafür, weshalb er blindlings ein (kaputtes) ssh-rpm
7724			installiert hat, das er über rpmfind gefunden hat:]
7725			Doch, echt! Der Server war trusted, der sah' ja sowas von vertrauenswürdig
7726	root	1.1	aus!
7727	root	1.387	%
7728	root	1.1	[IMHO one of the main reasons linux is nicer]
7729			http://www.cyberport.com/~tangent/ix/bsod-story.html
7730	root	1.387	%
7731	root	1.1	[On the reality of random numbers]
7732			> /dev in a world with dynamic hardware, so why bother? We only need
7733			> to provide random numbers to fill in struct stat. (zero works)
7734			Alan Cox [as usual ;)]
7735	root	1.387	%
7736	root	1.1	[Flame Warriors]
7737			http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
7738	root	1.387	%
7739	root	1.1	A programmer who hasn't been exposed to all four of the imperative,
7740			functional, objective, and logical programming styles has one or
7741			more conceptual blindspots. It's like knowing how to boil but not
7742			fry. Programming is not a skill one develops in five easy lessons.
7743
7744			--tom
7745	root	1.387	%
7746	root	1.1	To: bugs@gimp.org
7747			X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 105
7748
7749			Hi there, I recently downloaded your gimp toolkit. At first I was having
7750			problems until I read your download help tip. I understand I have to compile
7751			it so I tried using Borland C++ Compiler but it said the line length exceeds
7752			editor capacity. Is there any other compiler I can use that wouldn't rip a
7753			whole in my wallet. Thank you for your support.
7754	root	1.387	%
7755	root	1.1	["General Information About Using VBScript with Outlook"]
7756			VBScript is designed to be a secure programming environment. It
7757			lacks various commands that can be potentially damaging if used in
7758			a malicious manner. This added security is critical in enterprise
7759			solutions.
7760
7761			http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q167/1/38.ASP
7762
7763			[Despite this "added security", however, VBscript still can modify,
7764			rename, delete files, modify windows registry entries and send email in
7765			the background]
7766	root	1.387	%
7767	root	1.1	[Phil Agre on the "ILOVEYOU" virus and Microsoft's reaction]
7768			Scott Culp of Microsoft Public Relations, excuse me, I mean Microsoft
7769			Security Response Center:
7770
7771			This is a general issue, not a Microsoft issue. You can write a
7772			virus for any platform. (New York Times 5/5/00)
7773
7774			[and later]
7775			Mr. Culp also says this (CNET 5/5/00):
7776
7777			This is by-design behavior, not a security vulnerability.
7778
7779			[Phil closes]
7780			Microsoft shouldn't be broken up. It should be shut down.
7781
7782			[See also http://dlis.gseis.ucla.edu/people/pagre/rre.html]
7783			[and http://commons.somewhere.com/rre/2000/RRE.notes.and.recommenda6.html]
7784	root	1.387	%
7785	root	1.1	[Bruce Schneier about the "ILOVEYOU" virus]
7786			Expect even worse in the future. Systems running either Microsoft Office
7787			2000 or Internet Explorer 5.0 can be infected with these sorts of viruses
7788			even if the recipient doesn't open the attachment. That's right; if the
7789			system is running Internet Explorer with the default settings, it is
7790			vulnerable. The problem is caused by a programming bug in an Internet
7791			Explorer ActiveX control. Thank you, Microsoft.
7792	root	1.387	%
7793	root	1.1	>Reaching to Fallingbostel was extremely amusing though, germany is
7794			>splitted into two halfs, one that doesn't know Fallingbostel and one
7795			>that 'heard of this place but have no idea where it is' at some point I
7796			>was almost convinced that there is no such place :)
7797
7798			[Trashey / Quasars]
7799	root	1.387	%
7800	root	1.1	Tom Christiansen writes:
7801			> I'm writing perlrtfm. It explains search techniques, not quickfix
7802			> switches plugging bursting dykes by springing more leaks.
7803
7804			Irony potential in
7805
7806			man perlrtfm
7807
7808			is left to the reader.
7809
7810			Nat
7811	root	1.387	%
7812	root	1.1	Do you plan to release support for on-the-fly file and directory compression
7813			and encryption as in NTFSv2?
7814
7815			(Imagine a system that in order to run needs a diskette or CD-ROM disk with
7816			private key - protection never seen except in movies ;-)
7817	root	1.387	%
7818	root	1.1	[Telekom-Techniker, bei einer ISDN-UK0-Messung!]
7819			Ich: Also, einen Layer-1-Connect bekomme ich...
7820			Telekomiker: Layer-1? Was ist das? Aber ich bekomme ja auch gar kein Freizeichen...
7821	root	1.387	%
7822	root	1.1	"I love the way Microsoft follows standards. In much the
7823			same manner that fish follow migrating caribou."
7824			Paul Tomblin
7825	root	1.387	%
7826	root	1.1	[recently on p5p]
7827			>I am morally
7828			>convinced that map() was written based on grep()
7829
7830			Considering they use the same op function, I'd say that's a distinct
7831			possibility...
7832
7833			Dan
7834	root	1.387	%
7835	root	1.1	[after the "Welle Erdball" performance on the Mekka&Symposium 2000:]
7836	root	1.388	<jan> bine: du solltest da nicht hingucken, das ist nicht gut fürn kopf
7837	root	1.1	<Bordeaux> after listening to this crap, and hearing zugabe zugabe i finally have the proof that all german c64 sceners are gay :)
7838			<Mr> zugabe
7839	root	1.387	%
7840	root	1.1	"Why upon hearing his arguments I changed my opinion 360 degrees."
7841			Recent comment on the floor of some state legislature
7842	root	1.387	%
7843	root	1.1	DIVIDE EMPLOYEE-EARNINGS BY EMPLOYEE-HOURS GIVING EMPLOYEE-PAY-RATE
7844			[cobol, sigh]
7845	root	1.387	%
7846	root	1.1	It is expected that the Multics system will be published when it is
7847			operating substantially and will therefore be available for implementation
7848			on any equipment with suitable characteristics. Such publication is
7849			desirable for two reasons: First, the system should withstand public
7850			scrutiny and criticism volunteered by interested readers; second, in an
7851			age of increasing complexity, it is an obligation to present and future
7852			system designers to make the inner operating system as lucid as possible
7853			so as to reveal the basic system issues.
7854
7855			Corbat_ & Vyssotsky 1965
7856	root	1.387	%
7857	root	1.1	"Rule #7: Silence is not acquiescence.
7858
7859			"Contrary to what you may have heard, silence of those present is
7860			not necessarily consent, even the reluctant variety. They simply
7861			may sit in stunned silence and figure ways of sabotaging the plan
7862			after they regain their composure."
7863
7864			-- Paul Rinaldo
7865			[see also http://people.qualcomm.com/karn/rinaldo.html]
7866	root	1.387	%
7867	root	1.1	On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 12:09:59AM +1000, Chris wrote:
7868			>
7869			> In case you guys havn't noticed...
7870			>
7871			> http://slashdot.org reports that XFS is now released.
7872
7873			Yes, and http://www.freshmeat.net reports:
7874
7875			Error: Unable to connect to MySQL Server ().
7876
7877			;-}
7878
7879			--
7880
7881			ciao -
7882			Stefan
7883
7884	root	1.387	%
7885	root	1.1	> The 'hypervisor' is a new term to me.. Are you refering to the
7886			> Transmeta CPU and it's native mode? If I read you correctly
7887
7888			No its what the S/390 VM is often called. Its a supervisor for supervisor
7889			mode programs so illogically enough its a hypervisor 8). The IBM mainframe
7890			guys thing this kind of set up is routine. Unix is met with
7891			'You mean you cant run a new kernel on test at the same time as the old
7892			one' type remarks.
7893			[Alan Cox]
7894	root	1.387	%
7895	root	1.1	Godwin's Law
7896
7897			As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
7898			involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
7899
7900			[see also http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/]
7901	root	1.387	%
7902	root	1.1	["Stefan im IRC."]
7903
7904			[01:53:07] <coda> anyone know how to get emacs to stop creating the file.name~ files?
7905			[01:53:24] <JanMan> alias emacs=vi
7906			[01:53:31] <coda> haha
7907	root	1.387	%
7908	root	1.1	[remaining problems with OpenBIOS]
7909			Our SDRAM sizing and init code is not very good; we could use good code.
7910			The code we've been offered so far requires memory to work (oops!);
7911			requires a stack (oops!); or assumes a totally configured machine (oops!).
7912	root	1.387	%
7913	root	1.1	[Alan Cox on wether special fs's should have require "//" in their path]
7914			> No :-) It's a feature. Some things are going REAL ugly without such things.
7915
7916			Given //ipc or freebsd, I think I'd pick freebsd. Thats how ugly the idea
7917			is to me ok.
7918	root	1.387	%
7919	root	1.1	"The code is self documenting." -- The Programmer.
7920
7921			"I don't read C." -- The Tech Writer.
7922	root	1.387	%
7923	root	1.1	[Stefan Sebolth, on the CeBIT, while listening to the original c64 "Giana Sisters" tune:]
7924			Haaach, da war die Welt halt noch in Ordnung!
7925	root	1.387	%
7926	root	1.1	Remember, never ask a geek "why";
7927			just nod your head and back away slowly...
7928	root	1.387	%
7929	root	1.1	The thought of implementing something like text and binary modes for
7930			files is a about a frightening for todays kernel developer's as a mouse
7931			to a women in a typical movie of the 50's ;-)
7932
7933			Ralf
7934	root	1.387	%
7935	root	1.1	It may be real, but it's icky. It's too traditional Unix ``I don't
7936			care if we lose 90% of our market base to NT if our competitor loses
7937			95% of THEIR market base!'' to be palatable.
7938
7939			david parsons
7940	root	1.387	%
7941	root	1.1	["some time ago on p5p"]
7942			> ($host) = gethostbyname('localhost');
7943
7944			>Sadly most UNIX boxes don't add a sane alias to their /etc/hosts file
7945			>so that trick is not portable.
7946
7947			% grep localhost /etc/hosts
7948			127.0.0.1 localhost
7949
7950			--tom
7951	root	1.387	%
7952	root	1.1	["some time ago on p5p"]
7953			On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:22:05PM -0700, Tom Christiansen wrote:
7954			> >But given that most slip drivers I have seen for OS/2 do not do this,
7955			> >the question is moot.
7956			>
7957			> I'll send you a free Unix system.
7958
7959			Thanks, the doors in my house are well-balanced. ;-)
7960
7961			Ilya
7962	root	1.387	%
7963	root	1.1	[Elliott H Mitchell on the reiserfs list]
7964			> Me thinks if unwillingness to use tar over dump will stop you from
7965			> using a better filesystem there will be lots of other reasons that
7966			> will stop you from trying anything new too. So it is not really worth
7967			> trying.
7968
7969			Yeah, if a filesystem randomly lost files and the authors had no plans to
7970			fix it, that would kind discourage one from using it...
7971	root	1.387	%
7972	root	1.1	[Russel Coker on the reiserfs list]
7973			... my old Thinkpad 380XD (Pentium-233 with 3.2G ide hard drive) running
7974			ReiserFS and exporting the file system over 10baseT Ethernet could
7975			outperform local hard drives on an AIX machine running JFS.
7976	root	1.387	%
7977	root	1.1	[Peter Mattis, author of GIMP]
7978			I can't say anything about Rasterman because I've never looked at any of
7979			his code. My only comment about Raster is that he should learn to spell.
7980	root	1.387	%
7981	root	1.1	[David Schwartz on linux-kernel]
7982			> ORBS does not do ANYTHING above try to send few LEGAL
7983			> strings to mailservers with LONG delays. So if you block ORBS you deserve
7984			> blocking :-)
7985
7986			That's not the point. The point is that ORBS claims to be a list of
7987			validated open mail relays, and it's not. It's not supposed to be a list of
7988			people who deserve anything in particular. I'm sure if you talk to the
7989			people who have chosen to block ORBS, you will find that they have their
7990			reasons.
7991
7992			DS
7993	root	1.387	%
7994	root	1.1	[WDR, 19991216 Fernsehen mit Manuel]
7995	root	1.388	Es ist ein Fall bekannt, bei dem sich ein Patient über ein Jahr lang
7996	root	1.1	geweigert hatte, auf die Toilette zu gehen. Dann haben seine Verwandten
7997	root	1.388	und Ärzte ihn dazu überreden können, endlich die Toilette aufzusuchen. Er
7998	root	1.1	hat dabei auf einmal 37 Liter entleert.
7999
8000			Danach lebte er noch ganz normal einige Jahre, bis er, wie in Amerika
8001	root	1.388	üblich, erschossen wurde.
8002	root	1.387	%
8003	root	1.1	> - My Maxtor 27G drive ends up in PIO mode (non-SMP system, but likely
8004			[...]
8005			> Last time I reported this, I had a WDC31600, as hda, and the maxtor as
8006			[...]
8007
8008			You committed a mortal sin in ATA............
8009			You never ever mix WD and Maxtor..........on day I will document why.
8010			Basically these two vendors have timings that are completely incompatable
8011			with each other on the same channel.
8012
8013			IMHO, WD is crap..........however, you may split the two pieces of
8014			hardware and they will work fine under linux and all other OS's.
8015
8016			This rule of "never ever mix WD and Maxtor" is OS independent.
8017	root	1.387	%
8018	root	1.1	[ALF2-Benutzerhandbuch]
8019			"Nur eine tote Festplatte ist eine sichere Festplatte."
8020	root	1.387	%
8021	root	1.1	Physicists write FORTRAN in any language.
8022	root	1.387	%
8023	root	1.1	[OpenBOOT 3.10.6 response to pressing "Ctrl-Alt-Del":]
8024			ANY word at all is a candidate.
8025			USE words to see the entire dictionary.
8026			ok
8027	root	1.387	%
8028	root	1.1	[SDF for POD Users]
8029			... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - even Lisp has it's fans. :-)
8030	root	1.387	%
8031	root	1.1	<Xach> schmorp: i haven't been doing any gimpy things lately
8032			<schmorp> xach: well, who is doing gimpy things lately :(
8033			<Xach> schmorp: Mitch
8034			<schmorp> xach: ok.
8035			<Xach> schmorp: you are not keeping pace with the other germans
8036			<Xach> schmorp: you must work more diligently! FOCUS!! DON'T TALK!!
8037			<Xach> burrito, focus
8038			<Burrito> FOCUS you BABOON!
8039	root	1.387	%
8040	root	1.1	[Paul Miller]
8041			... I find Knuth's attitude to be far more logical: "Be careful about
8042			using the following code -- I've only proven that it works, I haven't
8043			tested it." ...
8044	root	1.387	%
8045	root	1.1	Intel Inside -- Idiot Outside!
8046	root	1.387	%
8047	root	1.1	Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
8048
8049			Bart Lateur wrote in message <383a4712.942513@news.skynet.be>...
8050			>Petrus Prawirodidjojo wrote:
8051			>
8052			>>So we must compete with Windows CE.
8053			>
8054			>"Please wait while your Toaster shuts down."
8055			>
8056			>"My microwave oven hangs, I have to reboot."
8057			>
8058			>No thank you. :-) I don't think Microsoft somehow can "automatically" be
8059			>the most obvious choice as a supplier of system software for embedded
8060			>systems.
8061
8062
8063			Quite so. Windows CE is rapidly losing what small market share they once
8064			had.
8065
8066			--
8067			Neal Bridges
8068	root	1.387	%
8069	root	1.1	On 27 Nov 1999, sanjay Kumar wrote:
8070
8071			> Hi folks,
8072			> i got some problem in using linux.When segmentation fault happens four five times continously OS is not working properly,insted of I remove the core dump and core dump bug ,Why?
8073			> please reply to
8074			> sanjay_rect@rediffmail.com
8075			> and sigma_btl@vsnl.com
8076
8077			Parse error.
8078
8079			---
8080			Alex
8081	root	1.387	%
8082	root	1.1	From: Richard Earnshaw <rearnsha@arm.com>
8083
8084			> Why do we really need to support compiling with -ansi when
8085			> including a non-ANSI header file in a C program?
8086
8087			Because some vendors wouldn't recognize a C standard it if hit them. The
8088			amount of code that purports to be ANSI C code, but is in fact nothing of
8089			the sort, has to be seen to be believed.
8090
8091			That doesn't mean that I don't want my program to be clean ANSI C.
8092	root	1.387	%
8093	root	1.1	[one of the few good us movies]
8094	root	1.388	Talk Radio Mediendrama - USA - 1988 - Regie: Oliver Stone * Sein Zynismus wird dem Radiomoderator Barry zum Verhängnis.
8095	root	1.387	%
8096	root	1.1	[guess the language AND the language revision ;)]
8097			ii = 44;
8098			p = &ii;
8099			p = ii/p;
8100			ii++; /* Don't forget to increment ii. */
8101			printf ( "ii = %d\n", *p );
8102	root	1.387	%
8103	root	1.1	> But many systems set the RTC while running Win*ooze. That will affect
8104			> Linux time then.
8105
8106			Here is another microsoft Innovation (TM):
8107
8108			They now allow you to run your BIOS-clock in UTC! (Just like
8109			Linux. Woops. Just gave it away...)
8110
8111			Roger.
8112	root	1.387	%
8113	root	1.1	<Tommer> schmorp, for the next trick, do <frameset> <frame src=dataurl:> <frame src=dataurl:> </frameset> :)
8114	root	1.387	%
8115	root	1.1	auto accident;
8116			register voters;
8117			static electricity;
8118			struct by_lightning;
8119			void *where_prohibited;
8120			char broiled;
8121			short circuit;
8122			short changed;
8123			long johns;
8124			unsigned long letter;
8125			double entendre;
8126			double trouble;
8127			union organizer;
8128			float valve;
8129			short pants;
8130			union station;
8131			void check; unsigned check;
8132			struct dumb by[sizeof member];
8133	root	1.387	%
8134	root	1.1	[I like TV Movie's nexTView comments]
8135			22:40-00:05 (21) ( -34) ARD Mord auf hoher See Inflammable Thriller - USA
8136			- 1995 - Regie: Peter Werner * Stephen King
8137	root	1.388	verhunzt als Regisseur sein Buch im großen Stil.
8138	root	1.387	%
8139	root	1.1	Carmen Lucia Tancredo Borges wrote:
8140
8141			I have a program written in Fortran that runs on an IBM RS/6000
8142			worstation.
8143	root	1.387	%
8144	root	1.1	I wrote
8145			> I hope not. chomp() should match the string in $?, no more or less.
8146			$/
8147
8148			Damn shift key.
8149
8150
8151			Mike Guy
8152	root	1.387	%
8153	root	1.1	[rfc2635]
8154			The term "spam" as it is used to denote mass unsolicited mailings or
8155			netnews postings is derived from a Monty Python sketch set in a
8156			movie/tv studio cafeteria. During that sketch, the word "spam" takes
8157			over each item offered on the menu until the entire dialogue consists
8158			of nothing but "spam spam spam spam spam spam and spam." This so
8159			closely resembles what happens when mass unsolicited mail and posts
8160			take over mailing lists and netnews groups that the term has been
8161			pushed into common usage in the Internet community.
8162	root	1.387	%
8163	root	1.1	[CRYPTO-GRAM, November 15, 1999]
8164
8165			The Doghouse: Microsoft Windows CE
8166
8167			Microsoft encrypts your Windows NT password when stored on a Windows CE
8168			device. But if you look carefully at their encryption algorithm, they
8169			simply XOR the password with "susageP", Pegasus spelled backwards. Pegasus
8170			is the code name of Windows CE. This is so pathetic it's staggering.
8171
8172			http://www.cegadgets.com/artsusageP.htm
8173	root	1.387	%
8174	root	1.1	: Isn't the point that (void)'grep EXPR, LIST' is now better written as
8175			: 'EXPR for LIST'? Or am I misunderstanding your point here?
8176
8177			It really doesn't bother me if people want to use grep or map in a void
8178			context. It didn't bother me before there was a for modifier, and
8179			now that there is one, it still doesn't bother me. I'm just not very
8180			easy to bother.
8181
8182			The argument against using an operator for other than its primary
8183			purpose strikes me the same as the old argument that you shouldn't have
8184			sex for other than procreational purposes. Sometimes side effects
8185			are more enjoyable than the originally intended effect.
8186
8187			That being said, I'd never grep someone in a void context myself.
8188
8189			Larry
8190	root	1.387	%
8191	root	1.1	[that one's only for insiders...]
8192			> : BASE @ . \ = 10, verified original base was restored
8193			Yeah. :-)
8194	root	1.387	%
8195	root	1.1	[comp.lang.forth]
8196			> Old Antactic Explorers Penguin Recipe:
8197			[...]
8198			> Start fire under pot, raise seawater to boiling point.
8199
8200			Since it is very difficult to find wood on Antarctica, typically
8201			penguins are used to light the fire (due to their fat, they burn well).
8202			I also woudln't use any water, the penguins are fried fine in their own
8203			fat (you can use old fat to heat up the pot for another penguin).
8204
8205			Note that most people in Antarctica have been seal-slayers and
8206			whale-killers, so they were rough people. Usually, they didn't bother
8207			with killing the penguins before setting them on fire. I'm glad this
8208			receipts aren't used anymore.
8209	root	1.387	%
8210	root	1.1	Sie muessen einen PC nicht einschalten um herauszufinden ob Windows
8211			installiert ist. Sehen Sie einfach nach, ob die Aufschrift auf der
8212			Reset-Taste noch lesbar ist.
8213	root	1.387	%
8214	root	1.1	> Erinnert mich an den Kerl bei mir in der Videothek. Hab mir DHY ausgeliehen
8215			> und er sagt doch zu mir: "Ist aber mit Untertiteln." Sag ich: "Na prima!"
8216			> Fragt er: "Wieso, was ist denn daran so interessant, wenn man nichts
8217			> versteht?"
8218	root	1.387	%
8219	root	1.1	[de.alt.anime]
8220			Bei meiner Videothek fliegt ein "Ghost in the Shell" Tape
8221			"Ab18" rum. Das machte mich irgendwie stutzig weil auf
8222			der Schachtel meiner 16er zwei Szenenfotos sind, die im
8223	root	1.388	Film gar nicht vorkommen (ironischer Weise direkt über
8224	root	1.1	dem "Uncut & Unzesored" Schildchen). Andererseits ist
8225	root	1.388	mir völlig schleierhaft, was es bei dem Filmchen zu zensieren
8226	root	1.1	geben soll. Nur die oben beschriebene Feststellung hat diese
8227			Frage erneut aufgeworfen.
8228			ji!
8229	root	1.387	%
8230	root	1.1	I do worry about syntactic clutter, ever since my daughter came
8231			in, looked over my shoulder, and said, "What is that, swearing?"
8232			[Larry Wall]
8233	root	1.387	%
8234	root	1.1	Der letzte untergegangene altisraelitische Stamm war der der
8235			Altpreussen.
8236			- Norbert Marzahn am 15.8.98 in
8237			de.soc.politik.deutschland
8238	root	1.387	%
8239	root	1.1	> > Aber die Theorien, die Norbert aufstellt, ueber zum Beispiel die
8240			> > gegossenen Steinformen, die sich hochdruecken, den fuerchterlichen
8241			> > Kometen, der im vergangenen August die Erde zerstoert hat und solche
8242			> > Sachen find ich wirklich Klasse ;-)
8243			>
8244	root	1.388	> Jau. Und erstmal seine Erklärungsversuche, wenn's mal wieder nichts
8245			> geworden ist (wo bleibt eigentlich der Planet X, der während der
8246	root	1.1	> Syonnenfinsternis auftauchen sollte?)...
8247
8248	root	1.388	Drei Tage Dunkelheit und viele Trümmerteile sollte er bringen, gell,
8249	root	1.1	Norbert?
8250	root	1.387	%
8251	root	1.208	Marzahnismen: http://www.bruhaha.de/normarz.html
8252	root	1.1	Norbert Marzahn sagt: Ich besitze die Mittel, um
8253			"Rechts"- und "Links"-Radikalismus auszuloeschen.
8254	root	1.387	%
8255	root	1.1	http://welcome.to/levitenbuero/
8256	root	1.387	%
8257	root	1.1	<Xach> babelfish.pitney.org: "We may not get it right, but boy are we fast!"
8258	root	1.387	%
8259	root	1.1	Subject: GNU compiler
8260			From: "Steve"
8261			Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:05:03 -0400
8262			To: <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
8263			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0
8264
8265			[the following was a single line, of course]
8266			I downloaded the compiler and am trying to install it and the
8267			instructions seem to be very complicated. Can you help me understand
8268			how to install them? There is no setup file and I have downloaded from
8269			several sites in the thought that I might have the wrong version. Your
8270			assistance would be greatly appreciated
8271
8272			Thanks,
8273
8274			Steve
8275	root	1.387	%
8276	root	1.1	[an "I am doing high end graphic design" type of person:]
8277			> Also, could someone tell me how to calculate DPI of an image? I have not
8278			> managed to figure this DPI system out, for example, if an image is a
8279			> 100?50 pixels, what's the DPI??
8280	root	1.387	%
8281	root	1.1	<tigert> xachbot, op
8282			<XachBot> tigert: I have an 88 magnum. It shoots through schools.
8283			<tigert> ahem
8284	root	1.387	%
8285	root	1.1	<tc> xachbot, acro FOOBAR
8286			-XachBot:#gimp- FOOBAR: FTP Operation Over Big Address Records \| See FUBAR [Net jargon] (cached)
8287			<tc> just when you thought you had something to baffle xachbot
8288	root	1.387	%
8289	root	1.1	[the release of perl 5.000]
8290			Date: Mon, 17 Oct 94 16:48:04 -0700
8291			From: Larry Wall <lwall@scalpel.netlabs.com>
8292			Subject: It's soup.
8293
8294			Okay, it's there.
8295
8296			ftp://ftp.netlabs.com/pub/outgoing/perl5.0/perl5.000.tar.gz
8297
8298			The first one who tells me about a bug in it gets shot.
8299
8300			Larry
8301	root	1.387	%
8302	root	1.1	l33+ h4X0rz
8303	root	1.387	%
8304	root	1.1	# A random text generator using Markov chains
8305			perl -e 'while(<>){$f.= $_}@l=split(/\s+/, $f);for($i=0;$i<@l-1;$i++){$W{$l[$i]
8306			}.=" ".$l[$i+1];}sub a{$w=$l[1]}&a;sub b{print "\n"}while($w){if(!($W{$w})){&b;
8307			&b;&a;last if ($q++>3);}print"$w ";@p=split(/ /,$W{$w});$c=@p;until($s=int(rand
8308			($c))){1}$w=$p[$s]}&b' big_text_file
8309	root	1.387	%
8310	root	1.1	> && d'oh! i knew that! can she allow her lusers to use deja? here is the url
8311			> && for the post with the whole description of how i used -P
8312			>
8313			> Well, access to deja isn't forbidden, but access to the keyboard is.
8314			> And there's no mouse.
8315			>
8316			> Abigail
8317
8318			Wow. Someone else who reads usenet by osmosis... cool.
8319
8320			Matt.
8321	root	1.387	%
8322	root	1.1	Ok, our threads aren't so bad. Python's have one big
8323			giant global interpreter lock. :-)
8324
8325			- --tom
8326	root	1.387	%
8327	root	1.1	From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
8328			Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:42:19 -0700 (PDT)
8329
8330			On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Hubert Mantel wrote:
8331			>
8332			> So the huge ISDN update in proposed-2.2.11 will be removed from the final
8333			> 2.2.11 release?
8334
8335			[ Irritated mode: FULL BLAST ]
8336
8337			Are you being stupid on purpose, or were you born that way?
8338
8339			Go back and read the thread. Read why I'm irritated. READ. THINK.
8340	root	1.387	%
8341	root	1.1	Understanding is a three edged sword. Do you want to get the point?
8342	root	1.387	%
8343	root	1.1	["MVS uses quite heavy algorithms for swapping"]
8344			On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 07:55:32PM +0200, Lieven Marchand wrote:
8345			> Last time I looked at it, it got to the point they had moved some
8346			> ASSISTs into microcode. IIRC, some manipulations of the process
8347			> block. I doubt Intel/Sun/MIPS/IBM is going to accomodate Linux quite
8348			> that much ;-)
8349
8350			IBM is really really good on process technology. They have had to be.
8351	root	1.387	%
8352	root	1.1	MVS spends a lot of time running OS algorithms to allow full
8353			preemption that Linux wastes on running user applications.
8354	root	1.387	%
8355	root	1.1	[comments on the gcc-2.95 release]
8356			<QUOTE>
8357			I'm having problems compiling it for HP-UX 10.20. Any ideas?
8358
8359			(I haven't actually finished downloading it yet, but I just know I'm
8360			gonna have problems with this crappy OS ;-)
8361			</QUOTE>
8362	root	1.387	%
8363	root	1.1	The Internet interprets Windows as damage,
8364			and routes around it.
8365
8366			Roger Larsson
8367	root	1.388	Skellefteå
8368	root	1.387	%
8369	root	1.1	[configuring gcc]
8370			Noone should use --prefix=/usr without --with-local-prefix=/usr/local
8371	root	1.387	%
8372	root	1.1	'You can solve any programming problem with another level of indirection,
8373			except the problem of too many levels of indirection.'
8374	root	1.387	%
8375	root	1.1	[http://www.itknowledge.com/tpj/issues/vol4_1/tpj0401-0015.html]
8376
8377			Z-code interpreters have also been written in Java; unfortunately, when it
8378			comes to cross-platform compatibility, Java's user-interface classes are
8379			finicky and unstable--just ask anyone who's tried to reason with the AWT
8380			on different JVMs.
8381
8382			[and later]
8383
8384			Pilfer is a practical implementation of two of the cardinal rules of
8385			adventure gaming:
8386
8387			1.Anything that is not nailed down is mine.
8388			2.Anything that I can pry loose is not nailed down.
8389	root	1.387	%
8390	root	1.1	[the \|\|-operator can be thought of as "or", && can be thought of as
8391			"and", but how would you call the ??-operator?]
8392
8393			>>>>> "NK" == Nathan Kurz <nate@valleytel.net> writes:
8394
8395			NK> ?? -> huh?
8396
8397			That's a great name. The huh? operator.
8398
8399			<chaim>
8400	root	1.387	%
8401	root	1.1	`One of the reasons we continue to use Fortran is that it's easier to fix
8402			code written without attention to such details in Fortran than in other
8403			languages. To put it another way, Fortran is the only language where
8404			people who barely get by with their numerical skills can "write useful
8405			numerical code." Many times those people are the only experts in their
8406			specialty available to put a needed procedure into practice.'
8407	root	1.387	%
8408	root	1.1	[Moderator der Sending "Teatime" auf "Radio Okerwelle", 1999-07-12]
8409	root	1.388	Ich muß schließlich hören was ich sage, damit ich weiß, was ich denke.
8410	root	1.387	%
8411	root	1.1	[Dr. Dobbs #8, 1999, describing how you can AVOID downloading or executing
8412			Java applets, scripts and ActiveX controls while _parsing_(!) an html
8413			page]
8414			... you must utilize IOleControl::OnAmbientPropertyChange with the
8415			value DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Before you can do this, however, you
8416			must call IOleObject::SetClientSite so that IOleControl will work
8417			properly. This is the reason you derive from IOleClientSite, even
8418			though you don't extend its functionality in any way. After the call to
8419			OnAmbientPropertyChange, IE4 will call your Invoke method to check the
8420			value of DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Invoke simply sets the correct bits to
8421			disable the behaviour you don't want and returns NOERROR.
8422			[Still interested in knowing how you can disable the "file not found"
8423			dialog box that will pop up when you try to parse a non-accessible file?]
8424	root	1.387	%
8425	root	1.1	[Linus, whom I quote rarely ;-]
8426			Message passing as the fundamental operation of the OS is just an
8427			excercise in computer science masturbation. It may feel good, but you
8428			don't actually get anything DONE.
8429	root	1.387	%
8430	root	1.1	Advantages of Windows NT over Linux:
8431			* It's easier to explain the crash was not your fault.
8432			* You've to remember only one solution all to your problems: Reboot.
8433			* You can use your mouse to type an email-message.
8434	root	1.387	%
8435	root	1.1	> 1) On the PIII, there is the capability to get a system unique serial
8436			> number from the CPU. Does Linux read this data already? Is there plans to
8437			> read the serial number and then disable the capability (maybe so you could
8438			> get the serial number from the OS)?
8439
8440			Current Linux disables it and doesn't save the value.
8441	root	1.387	%
8442	root	1.1	[CRYPTO-GRAM 1999-06-15]
8443			"Microsoft set the security state-of-the-art back 25 years with DOS, and
8444			they have continued that legacy to this day."
8445	root	1.387	%
8446	root	1.1	[From "The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature", by Thomas Scoville]
8447			"In a world increasingly dominated by image culture (TV, movies, .jpg
8448			files), UNIX remains rooted in the culture of the word."
8449	root	1.387	%
8450	root	1.1	> If it is clearly documented that will not happen.
8451
8452			Yeah, sure. Unfortunately, if the "correct" treatment of this feature
8453			means to change a dozen source files (and rth's comments make me fear
8454			that that's the case), the chance that someone, somewhere forgets to say
8455			exactly why these changes were necessary (and on what other changes in
8456			other files they depend) is far larger than I want to consider. We've
8457			seen this before. Lucky we are that some long time gcc-hackers are
8458			still among us, who might remark: Oh yes, that's undefined by the C
8459			Standard, but it happens to be an extension gcc supports ... Seen that,
8460			got the T-shirt.
8461	root	1.387	%
8462	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8463			From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
8464			Date: Fri, 4 Jun 99 10:00:16 PDT
8465			To: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
8466			Cc: craig@jcb-sc.com, jbuck@Synopsys.COM, mark@codesourcery.com,
8467			davem@redhat.com, chip@perlsupport.com, egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
8468			X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
8469
8470			Linus writes, to Craig:
8471
8472			> I haven't maintained a compiler long-term. I _have_ maintained a larger,
8473			> and arguably mode complex system with many more degrees of freedom and
8474			> thus choices than gcc.
8475
8476			No, gcc is substantially larger than the Linux kernel (on the order of 10x
8477			larger, as anyone can easily verify). gcc does not need to deal with race
8478			conditions, so in that sense it is simpler, but in other respects it is
8479			far more complex than the kernel.
8480
8481			[NOTE for the reader: this is not really true, as the device drivers
8482			bomb the comparison away, but the complexity argument still holds]
8483
8484			[ personal insults deleted, perhaps the author is in need of a vacation ]
8485	root	1.387	%
8486	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8487			From: craig@jcb-sc.com
8488			To: torvalds@transmeta.com
8489
8490			>I want the _user_ to be able to give input.
8491			[...]
8492			>I happen to think that the "explicit cast invalidates the alias
8493			>information" rule is the simplest and best one, and gives the user the
8494			>best control without adding things like new attributes or other ways to
8495			>let the user be in control.
8496
8497			In other words, you believe you are a better language designer than
8498			the ISO C people as well as the gcc maintainers, despite the fact
8499			that you know, what, nothing about language design, and nothing
8500			about compiler design and, especially, long-term maintenance of
8501			compilers?
8502	root	1.387	%
8503	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8504			From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
8505
8506			Linus writes:
8507			> Oh, you don't expect me to complain about bad code generation when I know
8508			> gcc could do better?
8509
8510			Oh, don't worry, we expect you to complain, and in a rude and insulting
8511			matter at that. We're used to it. It seems that you were a nicer guy
8512			before you had so many worshippers.
8513	root	1.387	%
8514	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8515			From: Branko Cibej <branko.cibej@hermes.si>
8516			Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:07:09 +0200
8517			To: egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
8518			X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I)
8519
8520			Linus Torvalds wrote:
8521
8522			> I think it's a damn shame that instead of technical arguments _everything_
8523			> revolves around people reading the standard as if it was the bible, and
8524			> trying to make people feel guilty for not really caring. It's not a sin to
8525			> just want to get good code without having to do magic contortions, guys.
8526
8527			Why, Linus, it's trivial to do! Use MSVC instead of egcs, then you can do
8528
8529			#pragma optimize("a", on/off)
8530
8531			around every single statement, if you like. It even supports anonymous unions
8532			_and_ structs, and is only slightly influenced by the ISO C standard.
8533
8534			They'll even sell you a version that can generate code for the alpha!
8535
8536			>:->
8537
8538			Brane
8539
8540
8541			P.S.: Just for the record: I, a "real user" and (imnsho) a "clever programmer"
8542			who "know what I'm doing", at least most of the time, and who do not "read the
8543			standard as if it were a bible", vote for having a standard-conforming
8544			compiler that's not bloated by a ton of marginally useful (or even useless)
8545			features. If I want featuritis, I know where I can get it.
8546
8547
8548			P.P.S: They can't even spell "optimise" ...
8549	root	1.387	%
8550	root	1.1	You can have it Soon, Cheap, and Working; choose two
8551	root	1.387	%
8552	root	1.1	"Scientific" studies have found that a 2.2.x Linux router with
8553			fast-switching enabled, using Tulip 100baseT cards, can melt a
8554			high-end Cisco's 100baseT interfaces.
8555	root	1.387	%
8556	root	1.1	1) Thread switching is faster than process switching by a little bit on Linux
8557			2) Process switching on linux is faster than thread switching on NT
8558			3) Almost anything is faster than process switching on NT
8559	root	1.387	%
8560	root	1.1	[gimp-developers, on the use of keyboard modifiers for drawing tools]
8561
8562			> Simple. Powerful. Fast. Choose at most two.
8563
8564			Perhaps this should be an option in the preferences dialog? :)
8565	root	1.387	%
8566	root	1.1	[perl is cryptic??]
8567			Subject: @{$${->{{{{~{}~{{{NO CARRIER
8568			From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@iki.fi>
8569			Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:55:37 +0300 (EET DST)
8570
8571			We have still a long way to go-- from the zsh-workers mailing list:
8572
8573			: Just thought of a trivial way to take a lot of grief out of parameter
8574			: substitution. This patch makes the following valid:
8575			:
8576			: ${${${${(f)"$(typeset)"}:#local \=}%%\=}##* }
8577			:
8578			: replacing the equivalent but grotesquer
8579			:
8580			: "${(@)${(@)${(@)${(@f)$(typeset)}:#local \=}%%\=}##* }"
8581	root	1.387	%
8582	root	1.1	Long noun chains don't automatically imply security. - Bruce Schneier
8583	root	1.387	%
8584	root	1.1	> \|> Spoken as a true C programmer. However you are wrong. Case-preserving, but
8585			> \|> insensitive, is the CORRECT way for file systems. Capitalization should not
8586			> \|> matter for interpretation of a file name just as it doesn't matter for
8587			> \|> interpreting words in any human language.
8588			>
8589			> This is wrong. In German, there is a big difference between "paar" und
8590			> "Paar" (the first meaning "a few", the second "pair").
8591
8592			The classic example:
8593
8594			"Ich habe liebe Genossen in Moskau" - I've got dead comreds in Moscow.
8595			"Ich habe Liebe genossen in Moskau" - I enjoyed love in Moscow.
8596	root	1.387	%
8597	root	1.1	[do we need oo-style IO::File class in perl?]
8598			>_You_ aren't gonna code "use IO::File".
8599
8600			And there's no reason for anyone else to, either, especially
8601			once Nick finishes the Larry-blessed autovivification of
8602			lvaluabled undefs in open(), socket(), etc.
8603
8604			What's next, a String class for Perl?
8605
8606			--tom
8607	root	1.387	%
8608	root	1.1	[some example of the kind of mail I sometimes receive:]
8609			i was just trying to help u out not hurt you in anyway ok i have the fbi
8610			working on something for me
8611			u havent done anything to me ok and the sherriffs department came by to talk
8612			to me nutting concerning y ok
8613			piece
8614			russ
8615	root	1.387	%
8616	root	1.1	[From "Basic Information about Unix", common commands:]
8617
8618			pico (text editor for beginners)
8619			vi (text editor for advanced users)
8620			emacs (text editor for advanced users)
8621			ed (text editor for beginners)
8622	root	1.387	%
8623	root	1.1	There is no reason in principle that a Perl script shouldn't start with
8624
8625			use Python;
8626
8627			and appear to work exactly like Python from there to the end of the file.
8628			Except maybe faster. :-)
8629
8630			Larry
8631	root	1.387	%
8632	root	1.1	> Perl6 gives us an opportunity to re-examine every feature at a microscopic level.
8633
8634			just what I'm afraid of... I thought this was to be Perl6, not Perl
8635			2010.
8636
8637			(Perl 2010: The Spaced Oddity?)
8638	root	1.387	%
8639	root	1.1	The X.25 specification is not a particularly easy document to
8640			read. Contrary to expectations, it does not make great use of diagrams
8641			and tables that help to explain the workings of the protocols that
8642			it contains. Instead the document makes use of many ambiguous English
8643			descriptions of the actions that should take place, allied with a complete
8644			lack of fluency in its prose descriptions, make for a very confusing
8645			document. It is a wonder that any correct X.25 implementations have ever
8646			been created.
8647	root	1.387	%
8648	root	1.1	> Joe: (walking into McDonalds) Hi, I'd like a Big Mac.
8649			>
8650			> Cashier: Okay, here's your Big Mac and here's your Coke. That'll be
8651			> $3.99.
8652			>
8653			> Joe: Uh, I don't want a Coke.
8654			>
8655			> Cashier: Sorry, they're bundled.
8656			>
8657			> Joe: What? I'm not paying for a Coke!
8658			>
8659			> Cashier: You don't; the Coke is free.
8660			>
8661			> Joe: But wasn't a Big Mac $2.49 last week?
8662			>
8663			> Cashier: Sure, but this latest Big Mac is far more innovative. It's
8664			> got integrated Coke!
8665			>
8666			> Joe: I already bought a Snapple across the street... I'm not going
8667			> to drink the Coke.
8668			>
8669			> Cashier: Then you can't have the burger.
8670			>
8671			> Joe: Okay, fine, I will pay the $3.99 and throw the Coke away.
8672			>
8673			> Cashier: Oh, you can't do that. They're seamlessly integrated. Totally
8674			> inseparable.
8675			>
8676			> Joe: How can that be? They're two totally separate things!
8677			>
8678			> Cashier: No, watch. (takes Big Mac, dunks it in a tank of Coke) See?
8679			>
8680			> Joe: Why did you just do that?!
8681			>
8682			> Cashier: It's a benefit to the consumer. Otherwise you'd end up with
8683			> two different, inconsistent tastes. This way you're assured of a
8684			> continuous taste across all your foods.
8685	root	1.387	%
8686	root	1.1	Threads are like salt. I like salt, you like salt, we all
8687			like salt, but we eat more pasta than salt.
8688	root	1.40	Rob Pike
8689	root	1.387	%
8690	root	1.1	From: Nathan Torkington <gnat@frii.com>
8691
8692			Don't be bitten by Perl, get crushed by Python.
8693			Python: Perl for the punctuation-phobic.
8694			It takes 4 days for a python to digest a hamster, but only 2 days
8695			for you to digest this book.
8696			Python: it's really better but nobody uses it.
8697			Python: just for the whitespace of it.
8698			Join The Trickle
8699			Python: more popular than Dylan!
8700			Python: not written by crackheads in a gutter!
8701			Are you uptight? Try our new Python Hangups series.
8702	root	1.387	%
8703	root	1.1	Well Microsoft announced this new language called COOL which I can
8704			honestly say that I have seen NO CRAPPY CODE written in. OTOH it appears
8705			that to achieve this miraculous status by the simple technique of being
8706			complete and utter vapourware.
8707
8708			Microsoft, taking the Business out of COBOL.
8709	root	1.387	%
8710	root	1.1	[From "Programming Perl"]
8711
8712			We will encourage you to develop the three great virtues of a
8713			programmer: laziness, impatience and hubris
8714	root	1.387	%
8715	root	1.1	[Alexander Stepanov, creator of the STL]:
8716
8717			Yes. STL is not object oriented. I think that object orientedness is
8718			almost as much of a hoax as Artificial Intelligence. I have yet to
8719			see an interesting piece of code that comes from these OO people. In
8720			a sense, I am unfair to AI: I learned a lot of stuff from the MIT AI
8721			Lab crowd, they have done some really fundamental work: Bill Gosper's
8722			Hakmem is one of the best things for a programmer to read. AI might
8723			not have had a serious foundation, but it produced Gosper and Stallman
8724			(Emacs), Moses (Macsyma) and Sussman (Scheme, together with Guy Steele). I
8725			find OOP technically unsound. It attempts to decompose the world in
8726			terms of interfaces that vary on a single type. To deal with the real
8727			problems you need multisorted algebras - families of interfaces that
8728			span multiple types. I find OOP philosophically unsound. It claims that
8729			everything is an object. Even if it is true it is not very interesting -
8730			saying that everything is an object is saying nothing at all. I find OOP
8731			methodologically wrong. It starts with classes. It is as if mathematicians
8732			would start with axioms. You do not start with axioms - you start with
8733			proofs. Only when you have found a bunch of related proofs, can you
8734			come up with axioms. You end with axioms. The same thing is true in
8735			programming: you have to start with interesting algorithms. Only when you
8736			understand them well, can you come up with an interface that will let them
8737			work.
8738			[...]
8739			You can't write a generic max() in Java that takes two arguments of some
8740			type and has a return value of that same type. Inheritance and interfaces
8741			don't help. And if they cannot implement max or swap or linear search,
8742			what chances do they have to implement really complex stuff? These are my
8743			litmus tests: if a language allows me to implement max and swap and linear
8744			search generically - then it has some potential.
8745			[...] Java is clearly an example of a money oriented programming (MOP).
8746			It might be successful - after all, MS DOS was - and it might be a
8747			profitable thing for all your readers to learn Java, but it has no
8748			intellectual value whatsoever.
8749
8750			[Later, on OMG protocols like CORBA]
8751			I am old enough to remember all the networking standards that were coming
8752			out in the seventies. Who remembers them now?
8753	root	1.387	%
8754	root	1.1	[Stiftung Warentest "test", WDR 19990419:]
8755	root	1.388	"Schlechtes muß nicht billig sein..."
8756	root	1.387	%
8757	root	1.1	[/bin/false on solaris]
8758			#!/usr/bin/sh
8759			# Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
8760			# All Rights Reserved
8761
8762			# THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
8763			# The copyright notice above does not evidence any
8764			# actual or intended publication of such source code.
8765
8766			#ident "@(#)false.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.3 */
8767			[obvious invocation of exit snipped to avoid lawsuit. Yup, 1 line.]
8768	root	1.387	%
8769	root	1.1	<Aspirin> but ee uses imlib, and imlib is documented to take 4.7 days to start up on a 486 by Alan Cox.
8770	root	1.387	%
8771	root	1.1	When a tar built for SunOS runs under Solaris, it's incapable of opening
8772			or creating files with "lib/locale" in the path. It replaces that part of
8773			the path with "lib/oldlocale".
8774	root	1.387	%
8775	root	1.1	[Bruce Schneier in CRYPTO-GRAM, 19990315]
8776
8777			"Microsoft prefers to treat security holes as a public relations problem,
8778			rather than fixing the actual problem."
8779
8780			[further down: the official answer from Microsoft about a problem where
8781			just viewing a website would invisibly run unrestricted code on your
8782			machine]
8783
8784			"Microsoft appreciates your input regarding this issue, however in lieu
8785			of modern technology being what it is, we all need to be personally
8786			responsible for knowing what we are downloading off the internet."
8787
8788			[see http://www.panix.com/~dfoster/sec/chrono.html]
8789	root	1.387	%
8790	root	1.1	[Steve Funston wrote to me, after I unsubscribed him from gimp-perl for
8791			spamming:]
8792
8793			>fuck you ass hole duh you are just a big fucker
8794			>>
8795			>>An error was generated by your request to our servers:
8796			>>------------------------------------------------------
8797			>>
8798			>>Your Email: bfunston@mich.com
8799			>>
8800			>>ERROR: You are not a member of this list.
8801
8802			[and later, misquoting my name:]
8803			>mark is not only a big fat liar but he is an ass hole.
8804	root	1.387	%
8805	root	1.1	[How much of the microsoft shares does Bill Gates hold?]
8806			He has 19.8%. Paul Allen has 5.5%. Steve Ballmer has 4.7%.
8807	root	1.387	%
8808	root	1.1	> And what's wrong with being named Peter?
8809			If linus was peter, Linux would be called penix? (just guessing) ;)
8810	root	1.387	%
8811	root	1.1	According to Microsoft KnowledgeBase article Q216641, Microsoft Windows
8812			95/98 are limited to an uptime of exactly 49.7 days.
8813
8814			--found by Vincent Janelle (Random)
8815	root	1.387	%
8816	root	1.1	> Leave that to RMS.
8817
8818			If you had just sat through the horrific panel with Larry,
8819			RMS, Richard, and Linus, you would want to leave a whole lot
8820			else to RMS -- like a couple of megatons of the manure that
8821			he's full of.
8822
8823			Support BSD/Linux.
8824
8825			--tom
8826	root	1.387	%
8827	root	1.1	"The FSF is a cult -- don't support them." --Rob Pike
8828	root	1.387	%
8829	root	1.1	We are Linux. Resistance is an indication that you missed the point.
8830	root	1.387	%
8831	root	1.1	> Perhaps the cracker himself (itself? ;) isn't bright enough to delete shell
8832			> history, but his shrink-wrapped cracking tools might be a lot brighter...
8833
8834			Some of them are. A surprising number aren't. A personal favorite of
8835			mine was the log from a cracker who couldn't figure out how to untar
8836			and install the trojan package he'd ftped onto the machine. he tried a
8837			few times, and then eventually gave up and logged out.
8838	root	1.387	%
8839	root	1.1	[on channel #gimp]
8840
8841			[msg(Xachbot)] insult me
8842			[XachBot(xachbot@home.xach.com)] schmorp: David Miller would never approve of that.
8843	root	1.387	%
8844	root	1.1	[the creation]
8845			http://www.toodarkpark.org/caffeine-cgi-bin/textfile/net-hx.txt
8846	root	1.387	%
8847	root	1.1	THE LESSER-KNOWN PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES #12: LITHP
8848
8849			This otherwise unremarkable language is distinguished by the absence of
8850			an "S" in its character set; users must substitute "TH". LITHP is said
8851			to be useful in protheththing lithtth.
8852	root	1.387	%
8853	root	1.1	Ich zog hier nur einen Pseudoschluss aus dieser sache, den ich nicht
8854			selbst schliesse.
8855			Norbert Harry Marzahn, selbsternannter "Judaaer"
8856			am 13.12.98 in de.alt.ufo
8857	root	1.387	%
8858	root	1.1	According to Gurusamy Sarathy:
8859			> "Resistance is futile, you will be modularized."
8860
8861			No:
8862
8863			use Borg;
8864			make_threat(-type => 'standard', -doom => 'modularized');
8865
8866			--
8867			Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
8868	root	1.387	%
8869	root	1.1	"And over here, ladies and gentlemen, may I draw your attention to
8870			the 'posicks box', a mechanism within one of the late 20th century
8871			sub-I hardware gestalt integration agents (then called 'operating
8872			systems', this particular one being referred to as 'windows' by
8873			its commercial-mimetic sustainer), designed so as to provide the
8874			appearance and functionality required to comply with one of the few
8875			agreed-upon integration schemas (sub-I, of course) available at the
8876			time. Unsurprising given the non-integration imperitives used by the
8877			agent's sustainter, this mechanism was demonstrated to be an ingenious
8878			non-integration ploy that, while supporting the integration schema,
8879			failed to support the local interconnect schemas that this agent
8880			specialized in. This produced a classic focus rift in the knowledge
8881			pool, benefiting the sustainer in the short run due to the focus
8882			concentration facilities available to commericial-class mimetic
8883			sustainers. Practically, this wasn't a significant loss, in the long
8884			run, as neither the 'windows' or 'posicks' schemas were relevant to
8885			modern quasi-I agents. These two do live on, however, in a few niches.
8886			'posicks' is used as the integration schema between most nano-scale
8887			logic units (a fact that only a few meta-experts still need to be
8888			aware of), and 'windows' survives, for religious-mimetic reasons, as
8889			the human-communication agent in a few stereotypical toasters and soap
8890			dispensers."
8891
8892			[Kenneth Albanowski]
8893	root	1.387	%
8894	root	1.1	Perl ist ein Schmerzmittel.
8895			Wenn Du bei der Speicherverwaltung oder der Stringverarbeitung
8896			unter C Schmerzen hast, nimm Perl.
8897			-- Kristian Koehntopp
8898	root	1.387	%
8899	root	1.1	> Why Windows NT Server 4.0 continues to exist in the enterprise would be a
8900			> topic appropriate for an investigative report in the field of psychology or
8901			> marketing, not an article on information technology -- John Kirch
8902	root	1.387	%
8903	root	1.388	[bei einer mündlichen Nachprüfung in BWL, Uni Hamburg]
8904	root	1.1
8905			Prof: "Was ist Agio?"
8906	root	1.388	Student: "Weiß ich nicht."
8907	root	1.1	Prof: "OK, durchgefallen!
8908	root	1.388	Student: "Ich habe aber Anspruch auf drei Fragen in der mündlichen Prüfung!"
8909	root	1.1	Prof: "Klar, was ist Disagio?"
8910			Student: "..."
8911			Prof: "...und was ist der Unterschied zwischen Agio und Disagio?"
8912			Student: "..."
8913			Prof: "...durchgefallen!"
8914	root	1.387	%
8915	root	1.1	Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@pobox.com> writes:
8916
8917			> Just morbid curiosity,
8918			>
8919			> Are there _any_ unix boxes that _can't_ build Perl?
8920
8921			Yes. Broken ones.
8922
8923			dgris
8924	root	1.387	%
8925	root	1.1	"The kerastion is a musical instrument which cannot be heard."
8926			-- A Borges story in ten words.
8927	root	1.387	%
8928	root	1.1	"C combines the power of assembly language
8929			with the flexibility of assembly language."
8930	root	1.387	%
8931	root	1.1	...
8932
8933			<AOL>
8934
8935			Me too!
8936
8937			</AOL>
8938
8939			Tig
8940	root	1.387	%
8941	root	1.1	ping -p 2b2b2b415448300d <hostname>
8942	root	1.387	%
8943	root	1.1	unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck;more;yes;umount;sleep
8944	root	1.387	%
8945	root	1.1	From: Dick Balaska <dick@buckosoft.com>
8946
8947			I sit behind an NT dual P2/400 256MB for too many hours each day. It is
8948			"slow". One of my (fun) tasks is CD mastering. When i'm loading a 500MB
8949			wav file into the editor, the machine goes useless for two minutes while
8950			loading the wave file. Basically its just reading the file and writing it
8951			to swap. The CPU is at 5%. No Alt-Tab between apps during that time. No
8952			chance of putting the mouse over a button (too many dropped ticks). The
8953			NT kernel is just sitting waiting for I/O completions.
8954
8955			Linux would be embarrassed to be that bad.
8956
8957			I expected M$ to never fix this because its not "broken". However, i
8958			expect billg to start reading the above mentioned literal benchmarks and
8959			get really really pissed.
8960
8961			Especially since i believe 1999 and 2000 to see Linux really start
8962			to cut into M$'s server market share.
8963	root	1.387	%
8964	root	1.1	> Hello I'm wondering if there's a lower traffic mailing list that exists
8965			> that's strictly important kernel announcements and not general chat. I
8966			> need to stay informed but I can't handle 250 messages in a 24 hour
8967			> period.
8968			>
8969			> Sorry for the insignificant post..
8970			> Nic
8971			>
8972
8973			Thank you for contributing to the problem.
8974
8975			-hpa
8976	root	1.387	%
8977	root	1.1	grep... grep... grep... (frog with unix stuck in his throat)
8978	root	1.387	%
8979	root	1.1	"If users are made to understand that the system administrator's job is to
8980			make computers run, and not to make them happy, they can, in fact, be made
8981			happy most of the time. If users are allowed to believe that the system
8982			administrator's job is to make them happy, they can, in fact, never be made
8983			happy."
8984			- - -Paul Evans (as quoted by Barb Dijker in "Managing Support Staff", LISA '97)
8985	root	1.387	%
8986	root	1.1	From: "Daniel P. Stasinski" <dannys@KAREMOR.COM>
8987			Subject: Microsoft Hotmail
8988			To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG
8989
8990			I contacted Microsoft/Hotmail asking them to close the account
8991			of that was listed in the backdoored tcp wrapper source code.
8992			I also forwarded the offending code.
8993
8994			The word back from them is that they will not close it. Theft
8995			of passwords and hacking does not violate thier terms of
8996			service.
8997
8998			Daniel
8999	root	1.387	%
9000	root	1.1	Any UNIX-killer must also have:
9001			...
9002			* cool name like Linux (serious, these fail: GNU Hurd FreeBSD 386BSD)
9003	root	1.387	%
9004	root	1.1	"Not all things worth doing are worth doing well."
9005			It's a phrase I use a lot. :-)
9006			[RJL]
9007	root	1.387	%
9008	root	1.1	As John Whittaker says: ``It's UNIX. That doesn't necessarily mean it's
9009			right.''
9010	root	1.387	%
9011	root	1.1	[Richard Stallman on the new _Pragma operator in C9X:]
9012
9013			Amazing--they actually listened.
9014	root	1.387	%
9015	root	1.1	That "UNIX" term is very negative. People often associate it with
9016			SCO OpenServer, Wyse terminals, and 60 people on a 386. The UNIX
9017			that people know is just awful. It looks something like this:
9018
9019			# less foo
9020			sh: command not found
9021			# more foo
9022			sh: command not found
9023			# emacs foo
9024			sh: command not found
9025			# ed foo
9026			0
9027			help
9028			?
9029			quit
9030			?
9031			exit
9032			?
9033			DIE!!!!!!!!!!
9034			?
9035
9036			[Albert D. Cahalan]
9037	root	1.387	%
9038	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Stop blib warning in future releases?
9039			From: andreas.koenig@anima.de (Andreas J. Koenig)
9040			Date: 05 Jan 1999 03:15:37 +0100
9041
9042			tim> Sure. Strictly speaking
9043
9044			tim> use blib ':quiet';
9045
9046			tim> would be most correct in style.
9047
9048			Only German native speakers are allowed to treat adverbs adjectively.
9049			For the rest I'd recommend [...]
9050	root	1.387	%
9051	root	1.1	[A new U.S. Law implementing a WIPO treaty]
9052			No person shall circumvent a technological protection measure that
9053			effectively controls access to a work protected under this title
9054			[Or, in other words, applied cryptanalysis will be illegal.
9055			too bad --- ]
9056	root	1.387	%
9057	root	1.1	Microsoft - Is it going to work today?
9058	root	1.387	%
9059	root	1.1	Subject: Re: [gimp-devel] GIF plugin legal issues
9060
9061			> Actually, my understanding is that Unisys doesn't currently enforce the
9062			> licensing cost on free software, but maybe I am mistaken.
9063
9064			The general wording, spoken by an unnamed GIMP developer, is, if you'll
9065			pardon the language, "Unisys can go fuck itself."
9066	root	1.387	%
9067	root	1.1	[once on linux-kernel:]
9068			> >who are you why on yahoo when iprint sf16fmi i fond you i need drv
9069			> Does anyone have the secret decoder ring to make sense of this?
9070			he's confused about us showing up in a search match on yahoo, but needs
9071			driver(s) for his sf16fmi thingy.
9072	root	1.387	%
9073	root	1.1	> Did you try to compile kdeadmin from the CVS tree ?
9074
9075			No I ran the KDE binaries. Im not interested in broken programs that
9076			include wrong #include files in their source.
9077	root	1.387	%
9078	root	1.1	[unix-faq]
9079
9080			Someday, you are going to accidentally type something like
9081			"rm * .foo", and find you just deleted "" instead of ".foo".
9082			Consider it a rite of passage.
9083	root	1.387	%
9084	root	1.1	"There's one word that strikes fear into nuclear scientists..."
9085			"Oops."
9086			-- MST3K
9087	root	1.387	%
9088	root	1.1	Seems like 80-bit spills would be closer to IEEE, if not close enough to
9089			claim full support. Off-hand I'd say people would be happier with
9090			those numeric properties than with the current situation.
9091
9092			I'll think about the esoterica (probably break down and ask people here).
9093			It would certainly make gcc the most reliable x86 floating-point compiler
9094			I know. Sun's does something similar to -ffloat-store by default (gee,
9095			look at how fast that ultra is), and Microsoft's runs off the end of the
9096			stack at run-time . I don't know what Intel's does, so I'm not considering
9097			it. ;)
9098	root	1.387	%
9099	root	1.1	>I was using the localtime function to change time_t into it's various
9100			>human-readable parts. I noticed that $year gets returned as 98 and
9101			>not 1998. I tested a few different unices and got the same result.
9102			>This is expected behavior based on the examples I've seen and my own
9103			>testing. My question is how is this y2k compliant?
9104
9105			What part of your C library's documentation on localtime(3), the perlfunc
9106			documentation on the Perl localtime function, the perlfaq4 entry on `Does
9107			Perl have a year 2000 problem?', and the Y2K document on www.perl.com
9108			did you find to be unclear on the answer to this question?
9109
9110			--tom
9111	root	1.387	%
9112	root	1.1	> * Have you ever wondered how life began ?
9113
9114			In a laboratory somewhere at Bell Labs.
9115
9116			>Why does it end ?
9117
9118			Ask the X3J11 committee.
9119
9120			> * Can you tell WHY there is life ? What is the purpose of it ?
9121			> * Can YOU do anything to make your life worth living ? WHAT ?
9122
9123			To promote the the DEATH OF ANSI C! K+R FOREVER! DOWN WITH PORTABILITY!
9124	root	1.387	%
9125	root	1.1	"Unix is Perl's IDE!"
9126			-- Tom Christiansen
9127	root	1.387	%
9128	root	1.1	[Sputnik]
9129
9130			Do you honestly think the Americans would mention a Soviet success? :-)
9131			A number of years back I saw an exhibition in the US on the development of
9132			supersonic passenger aircraft. They forgot to mention Concorde. It
9133			wouldn't surprise me in the least if most people at NASA had never heard
9134			of Sputnik.
9135	root	1.387	%
9136	root	1.1	NTFS by default adds unnecessary serialization to an extent that
9137			even older file systems such as FFS do not, and its performance
9138			characteristics reflect that. In fairness, it should be said that it is
9139			the superior approach for most removable media without software control
9140			of ejection (e.g. IBM PC floppies).
9141	root	1.387	%
9142	root	1.1	Never attribute to malice what could as well be explained by stupidity.
9143			- Hanlons razor -
9144	root	1.387	%
9145	root	1.1	Shallit's Razor: Never attribute to conspiracy what may be adequately
9146			explained by stupidity or incompetence.
9147	root	1.387	%
9148	root	1.1	According to Chris Nandor:
9149			> I thought about creating a web interface to input, edit, delete entries,
9150			> but that would have taken me longer, been more complex and less secure, and
9151			> offered no significant advantages.
9152
9153			That one's in the quotes file. Thanks.
9154	root	1.387	%
9155	root	1.1	My friend who had a Compaq called one day when his built-in cdrom drive
9156			stopped responding. Their answer "its a virus. Reinstal Windows". So he did
9157			(?) and it still didn't work. He called them and they said "its a virus,
9158			reinstall." "But I just installed. If there is a virus, it came from YOUR
9159			quick restore disk." "No, no virus there, but you DO have a virus. My paper
9160			in front of me says so."
9161
9162			He took it back and bought a Gateway.
9163	root	1.387	%
9164	root	1.1	9. Deinde, ne in posterum a XII kalendas aprilis aequinoctium recedat,
9165			statuimus bissextum quarto quoque anno (uti mos est) continuari debere,
9166			praeterquam in centesimis annis; qui, quamvis bissextiles antea semper
9167			fuerint, qualem etiam esse volumus annum MDC, post eum tamen qui
9168			deinceps consequentur centesimi non omnes bissextiles sint, sed in
9169			quadringentis quibusque annis primi quique tres centesimi sine bissexto
9170			transigantur, quartus vero quisque centesimus bissextilis sit, ita ut
9171			annus MDCC, MDCCC, MDCCCC bissextiles non sint. Anno vero MM, more
9172			consueto dies bissextus intercaletur, februario dies XXIX continente,
9173			idemque ordo intermittendi intercalandique bissextum diem in
9174			quadringentis quibusque annis perpetuo conservetur.
9175	root	1.387	%
9176	root	1.1	You obviously have not dealt with Microsoft Winnt 4.0
9177			and all the Service Pack then. While one Service Pack
9178			did somewhat correct the Y2K problem was not aware that
9179			2000 was in fact a leap year. There was no way to set
9180			the date to Feb 29, 2000.
9181	root	1.387	%
9182	root	1.1	"Ernst Lehmann, die Organisationsredundanz beim Cluster-Treffen"
9183	root	1.387	%
9184	root	1.388	HP Computer NEWS 3/98 about HP 2000/CN printer (page 24): "Darüber
9185	root	1.1	hinaus ... hat der HP 2000C/CN durch den Einsatz von Intel MMX-
9186			Technologie Zugriff auf deren Farbtabellen und kann so Farbbilder
9187			schneller verarbeiten" (A mistake made when translating. It's hard to
9188			get the wrong meaning if translated back to English, sorry.)
9189	root	1.387	%
9190	root	1.1	From: Robert Lipe
9191			> > I program computers with no screens and no keyboards for a living.
9192			> > Switches and front-panels are a LUXURY! :-)
9193			>
9194			> But I guess you are not _programming_ these computers without a keyboard
9195			> and/or screen.
9196
9197			Are you familiar with the Vulcan Mind Meld?
9198	root	1.387	%
9199	root	1.1	Subject: Re: [fwd from comp.lang.python] Re: Python 2 ideas [Re: access
9200			From: Tuomas Lukka <lukka@fas.harvard.edu>
9201
9202			On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
9203			> use pedantic;
9204			> use strict 'code';
9205			>
9206			> or whatever is the syntax to switch Perl into 'dull'/'pythonish' mode.
9207
9208			use syntax 'python';
9209
9210			Let's just embrace&extend'em ;) ;)
9211
9212	root	1.387	%
9213	root	1.1	Thus it was written in the epistle of Larry Wall,
9214			>
9215			> Having discussed all this thoroughly at the Hacker's Conference this
9216			> past weekend, I've come to the conclusion that Y2K will be traumatic
9217			> primarily because people think it will be traumatic. A panic is a
9218			> panic whether or not it's justified. People get trampled in panics.
9219			>
9220			> It should be illegal to yell "Y2K" in a crowded economy. :-)
9221	root	1.387	%
9222	root	1.1	[rfc1925]
9223			Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick any two (you can't have all three).
9224	root	1.387	%
9225	root	1.1	[Alan Cox, why not port hurd to sgi, instead of linux]
9226			> A possible minus is the message-passing between the servers which might
9227			> be time-consuming.
9228
9229			"Yesterdays technology, next week" to quote an OSI saying
9230	root	1.387	%
9231	root	1.1	UNIX versions of ctags handle the C language, and often Pascal and Fortran
9232			77. Sometimes, they even handle assembly language. Almost universally,
9233			however, they do not handle C++...
9234			[from "learning the vi editor"]
9235	root	1.387	%
9236	root	1.1	> correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a thread about this a few
9237			> months back that resolved the ping -f localhost as a ping bug.
9238
9239			Indeed, as Alan Cox said:
9240
9241			So get a non-buggy ping(8) client.
9242
9243			and as Ecclesiastes said:
9244
9245			Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been
9246			already of old time, which was before us.
9247			There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any
9248			remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
9249
9250			Regards,
9251			Tigran.
9252	root	1.387	%
9253	root	1.1	SNMP stands for Security Not My Problem
9254	root	1.387	%
9255	root	1.1	[slightly broken, though...]
9256			/* "Hello World" in B for 64-bit hardware! */
9257			hw [0] "Hello World.*n";
9258			main(){
9259			extrn hw;
9260			putchar(0[hw]);
9261			hw=+1;
9262			putchar(0[hw]);
9263			}
9264	root	1.387	%
9265	root	1.1	> So what comes first the chicken or the egg? :)
9266
9267			The egg. Always. By definition.
9268	root	1.387	%
9269	root	1.1	> > PPS: Robert, I just made my first y2k fix to that script ;()
9270			>
9271			> Better check your scsi cables.
9272	root	1.387	%
9273	root	1.1	Arroganz durch Wissen
9274			[Dirk Jagdmann]
9275	root	1.387	%
9276	root	1.1	[Re: Pegasus - Gut oder Boese?]
9277			> Weil er sie dabei ja unterstuetzt. Da er aber (abgesehen von den ersten
9278			> ein- oder zweimal) nur auf Anrufen von Rosa-Girl erscheint, koennte man es
9279			> auch anders herum sagen. wenn CU Pfeift, kommt er angaloppiert 8))
9280
9281	root	1.388	was aber leider bedeutet, daß usa die Rennsemmel ständig mit
9282	root	1.1	sich rumschleppen mu?. ^_-
9283			Nur weil die Kleine die Bimmel hat!
9284
9285	root	1.388	Und wer weiß, was dieses pädophile Pferd eigentlich noch so
9286	root	1.1	bezwecken will... ^_-
9287	root	1.387	%
9288	root	1.1	>James :\
9289			>
9290			>I apologize for adding a message to this possibly trivial thread.
9291
9292			I like your sig. I hope you use it for everything you post.
9293	root	1.387	%
9294	root	1.1	From: Mason <mason@schwanda.resnet.tamu.edu>
9295			Subject: night of the undead ip stack
9296			Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:03:19 -0600 (CST)
9297	root	1.387	%
9298	root	1.1	> The person who decides to invent UNICODE support for Linux
9299			> is just asking for a black eye.
9300
9301			But Unicode for NT is such fun!
9302
9303			For example, the checked DbgPrint() bluescreens above DISPATCH_LEVEL
9304			if you try to print a Unicode string--the Unicode->ASCII
9305			translation tables are marked as pageable.
9306
9307			Since as far as I know, printk() does not have any format specifiers
9308			that cause obscure kernel panics, Linux is clearly behind in this
9309			area.
9310	root	1.387	%
9311	root	1.1	Linux: a no problem operating system for no problem people.
9312			[Lukas Grunwald]
9313	root	1.387	%
9314	root	1.1	http://dd.sh/perlfs/:
9315
9316			THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL (PRE-ALPHA) VERSION OF THE PERL FILESYSTEM.
9317			EVEN WHEN IT LOADS WITHOUT CAUSING A KERNEL PANIC, IT WILL LOCK UP
9318			YOUR MACHINE, DESTROY ALL YOUR DATA, KIDNAP YOUR FAMILY AND
9319			(DEPENDING ON SAID FAMILY'S CONFIGURATION) SHOOT YOUR CAT, DOG, AND/OR
9320			FIRST-BORN CHILD.
9321	root	1.387	%
9322	root	1.1	[a comment on http://dd.sh/perlfs/]
9323			Forget GNU/Linux. /PerL/inux will conquer all.
9324
9325			kill 0,1 if -x '/PerL/inux'; # request kernel mode
9326	root	1.387	%
9327	root	1.1	[Tim Hollebeek on real arithmetic]
9328			On a machine with a sane floating point model, the results make sense.
9329			For example, my SGI workstation prints:
9330
9331			0.00000000000000011102 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000020000 1.00000000000000040000
9332
9333			However, a machine with the Intel FPU from hell gives:
9334
9335			0.00000000000000000005 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000
9336
9337			due to the fact that whether 1+x and 1 are the same number depends on whether
9338			the numbers are in the FPU or not.
9339	root	1.387	%
9340	root	1.388	[Grüner Tip/Arte]
9341	root	1.1	Ihre Nachbarn sind zu laut und feiern andauernd Parties? Kein Problem, ihr
9342	root	1.388	Bohrer wird nachts um zwei spielend mit _jedem_ Lärm fertig....
9343	root	1.387	%
9344	root	1.1	Remember, eating healthy doesn't make you live longer, it just makes it seem
9345			longer...
9346	root	1.387	%
9347	root	1.1	[M$ about unix development tools like GCC]
9348			By the standards of the novice / intermediate developer accustomed to
9349			VB/VS/VC/VJ, these tools are incredibly primitive.
9350	root	1.387	%
9351	root	1.1	> > Praha is nice and our university is interesting, since it is according
9352			> > to tests most complex and impractical computer science university on the
9353			> > world :) I just love it...
9354			>
9355			> Oh well, great that I won't be studying there...
9356			>
9357			It is really fun.... just now I have lesson (that reminds me that I really
9358			should go now) about set theory and infinity... it is really fun and very
9359			practical...
9360			for example that you have cinema with infinity chairs and infinity plus one
9361			person wants to see movie... what do yo do?
9362			Just let sit down the first infinity persons and then last person ask first
9363			one to move to second chair, second one to move to third and so on and
9364			everyone fits.. isn't that great to know? :))
9365
9366			Jan Hubicka
9367	root	1.387	%
9368	root	1.1	> template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> A {};
9369			[...]
9370			> I think that this construction is allowed by the ANSI C++.
9371
9372			No, it is not. What you meant is
9373
9374			template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> class A {};
9375	root	1.387	%
9376	root	1.1	Jan Dubois writes:
9377			> A) perl-5.00553
9378			> path = \perl\5.00553\bin\MsWin32-x86\perl.exe
9379			> cc = cl.exe
9380			A performance analysis compiling with M$ compiler? Get real!
9381
9382			[...]
9383
9384			Ilya
9385	root	1.387	%
9386	root	1.1	>Shouldn't the kernel compile with all combinations of options.
9387
9388			Yes. Feel free to fix it and send a patch.
9389
9390			p.
9391	root	1.387	%
9392	root	1.1	[tomc]
9393			Jean-Louis provides four arguments in favor of the overloading of the
9394			logical && and \|\| operators. Here they are:
9395
9396			+------------------------------------------+
9397			\| Other languages, notably C++, permit it. \|
9398			+------------------------------------------+
9399
9400			This one is hardly persuasive. Many languages do innumerable things
9401			that Perl does not do. Just for example, take:
9402
9403			* Csh reparses and re-evals interpolated strings, allowing something
9404			like C<$cmd $var> to do interesting things.
9405			* The Fortran lexer (as it were), having no need of white space to
9406			infer tokens, allows C<DO I=1.10> and C<DO I=1,10> to coexist in an
9407			interesting way.
9408			* Icon has an entirely different notion of success and failure,
9409			allowing expressions like (X < Y < Z) to do interesting things.
9410			* Scheme has call-with-continuation, allowing co-routines to do
9411			interesting things.
9412			* C++ has template classes with abnormal typing rules even for that
9413			language, allowing parameterized meta-classes to do interesting
9414			things.
9415	root	1.387	%
9416	root	1.1	Make is like Pascal: everybody likes it, so they go in and change it.
9417			--Dennis Ritchie
9418	root	1.387	%
9419	root	1.1	perl -wlpe '}{$_=$.' file # Count the number of lines.
9420	root	1.387	%
9421	root	1.1	[not quite duff's device, but...]
9422
9423			switch (x)
9424			default:
9425			if (prime(x))
9426			case 2: case 3: case 5: case 7:
9427			process_prime(x);
9428			else
9429			case 4: case 6: case 8: case 9: case 10:
9430			process_composite(x);
9431	root	1.387	%
9432	root	1.1	Is there any truth to the rumor that the number appearing
9433			after the words "Microsoft Windows" is the minimum amount of memory,
9434			in megabytes, required for execution?
9435
9436			Craig Milo Rogers
9437	root	1.387	%
9438	root	1.1	Mark Mielke writes:
9439			> This statement is false. The simple fact that school textbooks teach it
9440			> to be indeterminate should be enough to convince you of that.
9441
9442			This is just another reference point about the state of education in
9443			US (apparently in Canada too?).
9444
9445			Ilya
9446	root	1.387	%
9447	root	1.1	[from p5p]
9448			> Now you know why threading is experimental and all, buddy.
9449
9450			Experimental schexperimental. Anything that doesn't cause an
9451			immediate coredump is not experimental. :-) (Observant readers will
9452			note that this is a more rigorous standard than Microsoft's.)
9453
9454			Nat
9455	root	1.387	%
9456	root	1.1	Needless to say, Linux awk is probably gawk, which has been taking too
9457			much steroids for a while. =)
9458
9459			--Albert Dvornik
9460			<bert@genscan.com>
9461	root	1.387	%
9462	root	1.1	Subject: Re: zero width lookbehind considered slow
9463			From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@jhereg.perl.com>
9464			Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:40:37 -0500
9465
9466			>You do not understand? Perl is slow...
9467
9468			Ilya: You are formerly invited to go play in the python
9469			or tcl crowd instead of here.
9470
9471			--tom
9472	root	1.387	%
9473	root	1.1	>What's it? Can linux be improved too? Or has it already been improved?
9474
9475			Linux has never done anything so stupid in the first place.
9476
9477			Linus
9478	root	1.387	%
9479	root	1.1	On the 8th day god created email. And got noted the world was good. Then the
9480			devil added HTML mail...
9481	root	1.387	%
9482	root	1.1	linux/lib/vsprintf.c: * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds fucked it up :-)
9483			linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/binfmt_aout32.c: /* Fuck me plenty... */
9484			linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/ptrace.c:/* Fuck me gently with a chainsaw... */
9485	root	1.387	%
9486	root	1.1	On 1998-10-11T02:37:57,
9487			Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> said:
9488
9489			> Believe me Microsoft think Linux is a threat now. Its level with things like
9490			> java in their perceived threat list, so you can expect all the usual MS
9491			> techniques to start coming this way and very soon.
9492
9493			Arm the gnus!
9494	root	1.387	%
9495	root	1.1	[David Miller after (another) endless discussion with Richard Kenner]
9496
9497			Anyways, I tired (just like everyone else) of arguing endlessly with
9498			you, you're in the past, you no longer constrain my ability to improve
9499			gcc, so go away.
9500	root	1.387	%
9501	root	1.1	I received my copy of Visual Studio 6.0 today. I couldn't believe that it
9502			wanted to install the C++ compiler into a directory called:
9503
9504			"\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98"
9505
9506			But anyways, I just had to find out if it was finally possible to compile
9507			Perl (without PERL_OBJECT) with optimization (-O2).
9508	root	1.387	%
9509	root	1.1	[on perl version numbering]
9510			> So it could be 5.006 for the developers, but "ThreadPerl" or "Perl with
9511			> Multithreads" (or some such) for the journalists, if that's what
9512			> journalists need to make them pay attention.
9513
9514			Down that path lies "Perl version 5.006, codename `Ticklish Uvula',
9515			was released today" madness.
9516	root	1.387	%
9517	root	1.1	[on perl version numbering]
9518			> elaine> 5.1 would be a good thing(tm) as it would draw attention,
9519			> elaine> etc. in a way that a developers versioning would. The
9520			> elaine> world is not populated by people who think the same
9521			> elaine> way. To that end, this would be a good change. Of course,
9522			> elaine> we could call it Perl99.
9523			>
9524			> To me, Perl seems to be recognized for it's language qualities, not
9525			> for marketing reasons. IMHO, perl may keep this difference with other
9526			> wintel product. More than that : Perl99, would let believe people that
9527			> it is not Y2K proofed, or still in beta (<1.00). So it's not a good
9528			> marketing name, anyway.
9529
9530			Right. Then, to be Y2K compliant, we'll have to call it Perl1999. Hmmm.
9531			"The year perl left earth's orbit"? Maybe we need to get the NASA guys to
9532			put perl on the next low-cost spaceshot.
9533
9534			Of course, then c.l.p.m's motto could be "We do not commit mindless
9535			violence..." :-)
9536	root	1.387	%
9537	root	1.1	Rule 1 says that Larry says that Larry has the last say, unless he changes
9538			his mind in which case he still has the last say.
9539	root	1.387	%
9540	root	1.1	> >I never said it did.. I should have said: Binary only drivers encourage
9541			> >poor drivers
9542			>
9543			> No it doesn't.
9544
9545			Indeed. Its down to
9546
9547			Profit = (units * margin) - overhead
9548
9549			and the folks who decide "overhead" arent the programmers but the management.
9550			The folks who say "you have two weeks allocated to write this driver, then
9551			we ship it" are the folks to take the issue up with, and that goes source
9552			or binaries.
9553	root	1.387	%
9554	root	1.1	dig txt leap.yp.to
9555	root	1.387	%
9556	root	1.1	"The fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that nobody's after me..."
9557	root	1.387	%
9558	root	1.1	[linux-kernel on endianess issues with NIPQUAD]
9559
9560			\|> Do I read this correct?!? Is it more acceptable to have a bug[*],
9561			\|> than a not optimal fix?!?!?
9562			\|>
9563			\|> s/optimal/stupid/
9564
9565			What's stupid is little endian. <g>
9566
9567			Andreas.
9568	root	1.387	%
9569	root	1.1	[Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
9570			...
9571			A closely related question is `What is 1 minute before 23:59:60?''.
9572
9573			Here's a good one: `What is 1 month before 1 February 1995 in
9574			Kiritimati?''. There was no 1 January 1995 in Kiritimati; they
9575			skipped a day by moving the clocks ahead 24 hours. Similar issues
9576			arise when asking about times that occur within smaller, more typical
9577			UTC offset changes. A number of obscure questions arise here, and I'm
9578			not sure it's worth standardizing all the answers.
9579	root	1.387	%
9580	root	1.1	[D.J.Bernstein on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
9581
9582			Paul Eggert writes:
9583			> which I am calling the `modified TIME_TAI''
9584
9585			Your time differences break down near leap seconds. Ever watched xntpd
9586			try to handle a leap second? Wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble.
9587	root	1.387	%
9588	root	1.1	For binary only drivers you can assume most vendors will build x86 only
9589			however.
9590
9591			"We don't have the tools"
9592			"We can't support a non intel build"
9593			"We don't have that sort of machine"
9594			"Its not worth the time cost"
9595			"Whats an Alpha ?"
9596	root	1.387	%
9597	root	1.1	On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote:
9598
9599			> The original message was received at Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:39:56 -0400
9600			> from mini [10.0.0.3]
9601			>
9602			> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
9603			> <mailproc@fred>
9604			>
9605			> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
9606			> procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
9607			> procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
9608			> procmail: can't load library 'libc.so.5'
9609			> 554 <mailproc@fred>... unknown mailer error 16
9610	root	1.387	%
9611	root	1.1	> Here is the difficulty with this discussion:
9612			> No documented problem
9613			> No reason to believe that the "solution" solves the unspecified "problem"
9614			> No clear understanding of the effects of this change on the system
9615			>
9616			> Why, this could be a discusion among AIX developers!
9617	root	1.387	%
9618	root	1.1	> This would be a reasonable committee-like compromise that might
9619			> satisfy neither of us (:-).
9620	root	1.387	%
9621	root	1.1	By default Microsoft has set Explorer to use gz files as VRML, you need to
9622			change the association for .gz / vrml from "start vrml program" to "always ask"
9623
9624			dave
9625	root	1.387	%
9626	root	1.1	On 10 Aug 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
9627			DG> You're not programming MS-DOS applications are you?
9628
9629			BP> Hell no. I wouldn't touch MS-DOS with a ten-foot network cable.
9630	root	1.387	%
9631	root	1.1	[Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
9632
9633			Date: 10 Oct 1998 15:35:05 -0000
9634			From: "D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>
9635
9636			Paul Eggert writes:
9637			> * 29 February if it's a leap lear, 28 February otherwise.
9638
9639			If that's 1 month before 31 March, then what's 1 month before 30 March?
9640			1 month before 29 March?
9641
9642			The same as 1 month before 31 March.
9643
9644			1 month before 28 March?
9645
9646			28 February.
9647
9648			And what's 1 month after 28 February? 1 month after 27 February? 1 month
9649			_before_ 27 February?
9650
9651			28 March, 27 March, and 27 January.
9652	root	1.387	%
9653	root	1.1	Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
9654
9655			>Nils Goesche wrote:
9656			>> So make a security check first:
9657			>>
9658			>> if (status = UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK)
9659			>> launch_full_counterstrike();
9660			>
9661			>Hmmm. The way the worlds been going lately, AI wouldn't trust that code to
9662			>do the job. Here's the revised version:
9663			>
9664			>if(status == UNDER_NULEAR_ATTACK); /* Corrected dangerous
9665			> = instead of == error*/
9666			> launch_full_counterstrike();
9667			>
9668			>Now isn't that much more reliable?
9669			>
9670			>--
9671			>Email: cyrand@hotmail.com
9672
9673			The following variant is less reliable but much safer:
9674
9675			if (status == UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK); /* Correct dangerous
9676			launch_full_counterstrike (); = instead == error */
9677	root	1.387	%
9678	root	1.1	It is even more cheerful than that. Not so long time ago a customers
9679			of ours totally destroyed his NT installation on Alpha.
9680
9681			He found on a manufacturer page, no money - for a download, "NT driver"
9682			for his particular piece of a hardware. So he followed instructions
9683			to the letter - "Installation Wizzard" and all that crap - and the thing
9684			happily installed clobbering, as it is customary in these circles,
9685			essential system libraries with its own versions. The catch was that
9686			this driver was for NT/Intel and these bozos did not even bother to
9687			check for an architecture or at least mention something in some blurb.
9688			Ooops! No chance even to try to boot anymore.
9689
9690			The saving grace was that the installation was rather new, so loses
9691			were not big, and he had an opportunity to practice an essential skill
9692			of re-installing Windows NT. Ah, and yes, this was the only NT driver
9693			available for that hardware from any source.
9694			What do you plan on doing? Using a PA system for networking? :)
9695			Whats next? A Smell modem? It would bring a new meaning to packet
9696			sniffing!
9697	root	1.387	%
9698	root	1.1	"I'd rather spend 10 hours reading source code than 10 minutes on a
9699			technical support line that isn't"
9700	root	1.387	%
9701	root	1.1	[from linux-kernel]
9702			`This code fills 8 million seats, we therefore decide what's standard.''
9703	root	1.387	%
9704	root	1.1	[...]
9705			And especially with new machines users have a lot of clout. Several UK
9706			suppliers now carry Buslogic cards partly because they got fed up of
9707
9708			"I'd like to order a dual PII/300, 256Mb of RAM, 17" monitor
9709			4 4Gig IBM disks, and a buslogic scsi controller"
9710			"We dont do buslogic only adaptec"
9711			"Nothing else"
9712			"Sorry"
9713			[Click]
9714
9715			Alan
9716	root	1.387	%
9717	root	1.388	Fünfzig Prozent der Amerikaner wurden in ihrer Kindheit sexuell mißbraucht,
9718			während weitere fünfzig Prozent von Außerirdischen entführt wurden.
9719	root	1.387	%
9720	root	1.1	> Let's not forget that this is just an informal, free
9721			> software project. Unlke the US House of Representatives
9722			> we do not yet posess nuclear capability (certain RTEMS
9723			> users excepted, of course!).
9724
9725			Hmmm, if some RTEMS users have nuclear facilities attached to their
9726			systems, they might be well advised to be careful using FORTRAN as
9727			their language of choice. The comp.lang.fortran FAQ states (with
9728			concurrence from resident X3J3 members) that "using a non-standard
9729			construct might start WW III, if the necessary (optional) hardware
9730			is installed"
9731
9732			[Toon Moene in private discussion]
9733	root	1.387	%
9734	root	1.1	Newsgroups: alt.config
9735
9736			L. Harris wrote:
9737			>
9738			> Testing
9739
9740			you failed.
9741	root	1.387	%
9742	root	1.1	Roswell {Unit 6 of 5 Sam Borg} Coverup [Rev. joWazzoo - well mannered despammer]
9743			<JOWazzoo@WhiteICE.com> at We are Sam Borg Spam Assimilators Ltd. - Area 51 HQ
9744	root	1.387	%
9745	root	1.1	Perl is really designed more for the guys that will hack Perl at least
9746			20 minutes a day for the rest of their career. TCL/Python is more a
9747			"20 minutes a week", and VB is probably in that "20 minutes a month"
9748			group. :) -- Randal Schwartz
9749	root	1.387	%
9750	root	1.1	> alternative, when it comes to stability and power...Not to mention the
9751			> fact that bugs and fixes are very quickly available and don't come in
9752			> 18MB+ "Service Packs" :).
9753
9754			What, you mean you _paid_ for service pack '98?
9755	root	1.387	%
9756	root	1.1	We got this INTERNET because we whan't more information ( to learn ) now it
9757			seem's people can't handle what they see. You say freedom is a mater of
9758			choice (well it is) you have the freedom to choose to carry your butt some
9759			where else...
9760	root	1.387	%
9761	root	1.1	Steve Orzel (phloam@vol.com) wrote:
9762			[...]
9763			: The purpose of the newsgroup is to help out other people that have questions
9764			: about a certain topic.
9765	root	1.387	%
9766	root	1.1	Mark Robinson wrote:
9767			>
9768			> Does any have any source code to games that I can have? Does anybody
9769			> know where I can get game sources(legally)?
9770
9771			Here's the trial version of the three-room text adventure I'm going to
9772			write. I'm not finished yet, though.
9773
9774			void main (void)
9775			{
9776			printf ("You are in a dark room.\n");
9777			printf ("\n");
9778			printf ("You feel a sharp pain.\n");
9779			printf ("You have died.\n");
9780			printf ("\n");
9781			printf ("!!! GAME OVER !!!");
9782			}
9783
9784			(Don't tell, but I took some of the code from Quake.)
9785
9786			--
9787			John Kugelman. kugelman@mnsinc.com
9788	root	1.387	%
9789	root	1.1	[mail I got after releasing a zip-password cracker, the second biggest
9790			mistake I ever made]
9791
9792			From: "Tom Miller"
9793			Subject: Can
9794			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
9795
9796			Hay man can you send me some hacking tips and tricks please
9797			send to kymmiller@bigpond.com
9798			my name is Tom Miller
9799
9800			From: "Tom Miller"
9801			Subject: Wait
9802			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
9803
9804			Hey man its Tom can you also send me any easy systems to hack and the
9805			passwords also send me any infomation about hacking websites thank you
9806	root	1.387	%
9807	root	1.1	From: lm@bitmover.com (Larry McVoy)
9808
9809			[...] then think a little before flaming. Or better yet, produce something
9810			better. Flaming is easy but it is basically masturbation without the orgasm
9811			so why bother? [...]
9812	root	1.387	%
9813	root	1.388	Günter Höns <guenter.hoens@gmd.de>
9814	root	1.1
9815			Newsgroups: de.alt.ufo
9816
9817			Offensichtlich ist noch keinem das Wasser-Wachstum aufgefallen, das sogar
9818			jeden Tag geschieht. Jeden Tag waechst der Wasserberg im Meer um mehrere
9819			Meter, ist dann naeher an der Sonne und verdunstet dann. Sogenannte
9820			Wissenschaftler haben eine abenteuerliche Theorie ueber den Einfluss des
9821			Mondes auf dieses Wachstum aufgestellt, aber inzwischen wissen wir es
9822			besser: Die Wasser-Molekuele werden von Neutrinos getroffen, und verdoppeln
9823			sich dann.
9824	root	1.387	%
9825	root	1.1	CRASH(8)
9826			no fs
9827			A device has disappeared from the mounted-device table.
9828			Definitely hardware or software error.
9829
9830			Unix Version 7 Manual
9831	root	1.387	%
9832	root	1.1	On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Larry Wall wrote:
9833			>
9834			> Maybe Pi looks like this:
9835			>
9836			> =for C
9837			> i++; /* add 1 to i */
9838			> =end
9839			> =for C++
9840			> i.value() += 1; // add 1 to i, probably
9841			> =end
9842			> =for Java
9843			> system().foo().bar().i().value().please().increment(); // ???
9844			> =end
9845			>
9846			> :-)
9847	root	1.387	%
9848	root	1.1	> > USENET is not the non-clickable part of WWW!
9849	root	1.387	%
9850	root	1.1	[on linux 2.1.111]
9851
9852			The horrid underlining which was a feature with the monochrome Linux vt's on
9853			the previous two releases of the kernel has gone. Unfortunately, so has the
9854			cursor. A couple of brief experiments didn't result in me finding a way to
9855			turn it on.
9856	root	1.387	%
9857	root	1.1	[...]
9858			its a true story, it happend this weekend in a nice country
9859			between Belgium (wellknown for its Dutroux-case) and Germany
9860			(wellknown for its Bratwurst), lets call it the Lowlands...
9861			[...]
9862	root	1.387	%
9863	root	1.1	I get a sense of god-like proportions when I patch /dev/kmem with dd(1).
9864
9865			Chad C Giffin
9866	root	1.387	%
9867	root	1.1	[usenet, an anology]
9868			Mary Green's car was smoking. She got worried. "Whatever should I do?"
9869			worried Mary... Well, as she drove along she noticed a florists shop. "Aha!
9870			Thought Mary, "Flour shops are full of thoughtless men who need to apologize to
9871			their wives. These men are the sometimes the same ones I see swearing under
9872			the hoods of their cars in the shade of a tree."
9873
9874			"Brrring" said the bell of the door to the flower shop as Mary poked her head
9875			through the door.
9876			"HELP!!! MY CAR IS SMOKING!" Screamed Mary.
9877			"There is a garage right next door." Said the shopkeeper.
9878			"That's right," Said Melvin, "And there is a parts store across the street. If
9879			you ask for Fred, he's pretty savvy about that kind of stuff."
9880			Now Joe was also in the flower store. This was his first time in trouble, so
9881			he did not hear the 30 or 40 people per day who came in screaming about their
9882			cars smoking (mostly men, of course -- the ones under the shade trees,
9883			usually.)
9884
9885			"Why don't you help the stinking lady!!" Screamed Joe. "It might be your
9886			muffler bearings..." he continued. Or maybe it's your deisel glow plugs or
9887			your tire pressure..."
9888			Now Tim, also new to the flower shop felt the courage to chime in, "Or it could
9889			even be your cooling system. Sometimes a hose gets a crack."
9890			"My car smoked once and it was an oil leak, where the head gasket was spraying
9891			oil in the manifold." Hollered Larry
9892			"Hey lady, why don't you get your car the patch if it's smoking" chortled Glen.
9893			Well, the hollering went on into the evening, and the lady finally went to the
9894			gas station and found that the heater core had a tiny split and was repaired in
9895			three days for a cost of $175.23.
9896	root	1.387	%
9897	root	1.1	> Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
9898
9899			Sicher, das macht der Inzest, und die Isolation!:)
9900	root	1.387	%
9901	root	1.1	> Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
9902
9903			Stimmt, deswegen waren sie wohl auch die ersten, die Hitler hinterherliefen...
9904			:-(
9905	root	1.387	%
9906	root	1.1	>Mt 24,34 Wahrlich, ich sage euch: Dieses Geschlecht wird nicht vergehen, bis
9907			>dies alles geschieht.
9908			>Und es verging nicht.
9909
9910			So what?
9911
9912			Ich dachte eher an:
9913
9914			" 'Und sein Wabbel wird an einer Lanze aufgespiesst', wiederholte der
9915			Oberste Groesste Meister grimmig. Im Hintergrund knarrte etwas, als
9916			Bruder Pfoertner versuchte, das klemmende Portal zu oeffnen. 'Sind wir
9917			jetzt alle soweit? Befinden sich vielleicht noch andere Unwissende
9918			unter uns,die sich verirrt haben?' fuegte er mit aetzendem Sarkasmus
9919			hinzu. 'Gut. Wunderbar. Ich bin ja _so_ froh. Vermutlich brauche ich
9920			nicht zu fragen, ob die vier Wachtuerme geschlossen sind, oder? Oh,
9921			ausgezeichnet. Hat sich jemand die Muehe gemacht, der Heiligen Hose
9922			die Beichte abzunehmen? Ach, tatsaechlich? Auf die richtige Art und
9923			Weise? Und wenn ich nachsehe? Na schoen. Sind vor den Fenstern die
9924			roten Kordeln des Intellekts gespannt worden? Gut. Nun, dann koennen
9925			wir jetzt vielleicht beginnen.' ".
9926
9927			Terry Pratchett, "Wachen! Wachen!", S. 15f
9928
9929			Antje
9930	root	1.387	%
9931	root	1.1	[....]
9932
9933			Da muss ich ja, obwohl ich beinahe meinen Humor verloren haette, leise
9934			grinsen. Ich darf zusammenfassen: Du bringst uns keine Beweise, weil Du 1.
9935			zu arm und 2. zu sehr ausgelastet mit der Rettung der Welt und der Zukunft
9936			und so bist. Ausserdem brauchst Du keine Beweise, weil sich Dein
9937			Gedankengebaeude nach eingehender Nabelschau als selbsttragend erwiesen hat.
9938			Finde ich gut! Akzeptiert!
9939
9940			Da will ich nicht weiter stoeren,
9941
9942			Antje
9943	root	1.387	%
9944	root	1.1	It seems that writing to /dev/vcs0 makes the console singing "Ugh,
9945			lalala, I love you baby..."
9946			--
9947			Pavel.Janik@inet.cz
9948	root	1.387	%
9949	root	1.1	On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Linus Torvalds wrote:
9950			>
9951			> Kubys
9952
9953			Kubys is my evil twin brother. Sorry about that.
9954
9955			Linus
9956	root	1.387	%
9957	root	1.1	> eieio stands for "Enforce In-Order Execution of I/O".
9958
9959			.... and it is definitely my favorite name for an assembly language
9960			instruction (the non-native-English speakers on the list presumably
9961			don't know the childhood song "Old McDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O").
9962	root	1.387	%
9963	root	1.1	> It is big and never uses.
9964
9965			That's parses like English, but I'll be hornswoggled if I can figure
9966			out what it means.
9967			--
9968			Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
9969	root	1.387	%
9970	root	1.1	[...] HP's PA-8500, for example, has 1.5 Mbytes of L1 cache on-chip. The
9971			company has described the 8500 as a cache SRAM with an ancillary CPU. [...]
9972	root	1.387	%
9973	root	1.1	From: Dave Cinege <dcinege@psychosis.com>
9974			Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:10:31 -0400
9975
9976			Terry L Ridder wrote:
9977
9978			> at some future date end up being released under the BSD License is what
9979			> is being discussed.
9980
9981			Well my licence is bigger then your licence.
9982	root	1.387	%
9983	root	1.1	[gtk/testgtk, after dragging & dropping an object:]
9984
9985			Drop data of type text/plain was:
9986
9987			Bill Gates demands royalties for your use of his innovation
9988
9989			[and the button reads]
9990
9991			Continue with life in spite of this oppression
9992	root	1.387	%
9993	root	1.1	Joshua Waxman <jwaxman@ymail.yu.edu> writes:
9994
9995			While DJGPP is indeed a C as well as a C compiler, there are certain
9996
9997			A terribly succinct, as well as a true, statement. However, it has a
9998			certain amount of redundancy.
9999	root	1.387	%
10000	root	1.1	Compatibility with oneself is Microsoft's greatest strength. When they hit
10001			the 64 bit transition they will hit a major internal incompatibility problem.
10002
10003			...
10004
10005			Peter da Silva <peter@baileynm.com>
10006	root	1.387	%
10007	root	1.1	>Hello,
10008			>
10009			>I am new to Perl. Can anyone tell me where I can download a full
10010			>operational Perl version for a Windows 95 system?
10011			>
10012
10013			Of course it all depends on what you mean by "a full operational Perl
10014			version" Perl on Win32 has limitations that are largely due to the
10015			nature of the underlying OS, Perl on Win95 has further limitations
10016			compared with NT due to its own shortcomings .
10017	root	1.387	%
10018	root	1.1	An injunction delaying Windows 98 would clearly have a negative impact
10019			on the country as a whole.
10020			Compaq President & CEO Eckhard Pfeiffer,
10021			explaining why Microsoft shouldn't be
10022			prosecuted under anti-monopoly laws.
10023	root	1.387	%
10024	root	1.1	With a PC, I always felt limited by the software available. On Unix, I am
10025			limited by my knowledge. --Peter J. Schoenster <pschon@baste.magibox.net>
10026	root	1.387	%
10027	root	1.1	There is a need to keep from being locked into Open Systems. --IBM sales rep
10028	root	1.387	%
10029	root	1.1	In comp.lang.perl.misc,
10030			Stylin <stylinsty@yahoo.comREMOVE> writes:
10031			:Can anyone point me to the algorithm for creating a unique id?
10032
10033			$id = `cat /dev/kmem`;
10034
10035			--tom
10036			--
10037			Real programmers can write assembly code in any language. :-)
10038			--Larry Wall in <8571@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>
10039	root	1.387	%
10040	root	1.1	Newsgroup: comp.lang.perl.misc
10041			Subject: Larry 1 Bill 0
10042	root	1.387	%
10043	root	1.1	On 3 Jul 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
10044
10045			> The only problem with these AIs is that they don't handle references
10046			> to themselves as AIs very well. In faSegmentation fault (core dumped)
10047			> NO CARRIER
10048			> !@&#@#%T^@&(GUSD(@!&(@#R(FERHGH*(@#(&$&#@Y!&R
10049	root	1.387	%
10050	root	1.1	> People come here to ask questions, not for intellectual gratification, but
10051			> rather they are seeking solutions. As such, the incorrect answer was
10052			> better.
10053
10054			There's something... terribly wrong with this statement. I can't quite put
10055			my finger on it. Hmmm.
10056	root	1.387	%
10057	root	1.1	comp.lang.c does not exist to accomodate the laziness of those who cannot be
10058			bothered to learn netiquette. That's what comp.lang.c++ is for.
10059	root	1.387	%
10060	root	1.1	\|> : > but... a microwave is an example of an embedded system,
10061			\|>
10062			\|> : Who says? He just said it was a microwave. He didn't say it was
10063			\|> : a free-standing implimentation.
10064			\|>
10065			\|> This is approaching arguing for the sake of argument. Have you
10066			\|> ever seen a microwave oven that supports a hosted C environment?
10067
10068			The Lipton Ritchie Model 8 did. I'm sure that many posters will
10069			point out that Lipton's implementation of the stdio libraries was
10070			horrendously buggy. It was, but it was still a great system. It
10071			remains the only C implementation I know of that could be used to
10072			build Bison, and then cook it.
10073
10074			Viva la buffalo burgers.
10075	root	1.387	%
10076	root	1.1	A strategically-placed PDP-11 can be used to heat your entire
10077			home. I've got one in my basement, next to a large box of "She's
10078			The Sheriff" drink coasters. I sold my furnace years ago. The
10079			Digital Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning Corporation
10080			can be found online at http://www.dhvacc.com/.
10081	root	1.387	%
10082	root	1.1	The lbxproxy program has various options, all of which are optional.
10083			-- lbxproxy(1)
10084	root	1.387	%
10085	root	1.1	Re: Where to learn Windows programming...
10086
10087			\|> I'll take a Schildt book any day, thanks.
10088
10089			Great. I'm expecting to see the line above as a back-cover blurb
10090			on the next "Bullschildt: The Complete Reference".
10091	root	1.387	%
10092	root	1.1	Subject: Re: The wrong position of while, if and else?
10093
10094			that's some ugly piece of code buddy...
10095	root	1.387	%
10096	root	1.1	In article <1998062718481700.OAA03186@ladder01.news.aol.com>, eyrei@aol.com (EYREI) writes:
10097			\|> I have recently started learning the C Language. I have created a simple file
10098			\|> to determine whether or not a number is Prime. When I run it, the program
10099			\|> crashes with the error message :- Unhandled Exception :- General Protection
10100			\|> Exception 0x5FD7:0x379F. Prime(1) Processor Fault.
10101
10102			\|> What does this mean.
10103
10104			It means you've got a broken operating system, and should immediately
10105			install [free\|net\|open]BSD[OS] or Linux.
10106	root	1.387	%
10107	root	1.1	Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
10108
10109			On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Emulov wrote:
10110			> Hi, i don't know if this is a stupid question..
10111
10112			Off-topic, too! Imagine that.
10113	root	1.387	%
10114	root	1.1	"Right now we are the most shit hot piece of PC networking software on the
10115			planet. The only people who can touch us are FreeBSD (who also dont do
10116			streams)."
10117			-- Alan Cox, in "Streams and Linux"
10118	root	1.387	%
10119	root	1.1	"Perl combines all of the worst aspects of BASIC, C and line noise."
10120			- Keith Packard <keithp@ncd.com>
10121	root	1.387	%
10122	root	1.1	Lord Fellatio <richter_m@hotmail.com>
10123
10124			>Wo soll das Loch denn dann sein? Im Meeresboden?
10125
10126			Klaro.
10127
10128			>Von oben duerfte man es also ueberhaupt nicht sehen
10129			>koennen, da ueber dem potentiellen Loch im Meeresboden doch
10130			>wahrscheinlich erstmal Wasser und dann viel Eis liegen wuerde. Wie
10131			>verhindern die Ausserirdischen denn, dass Wasser ins Loch einstroemt?
10132
10133	root	1.388	Na ist doch völlig logo, mit nem rotierenden Traktorstrahl. Die
10134	root	1.1	Energie klauen die ?r***e dem Erdmagnetfeld.
10135
10136			>Gibt es da einen kosmischen Badewannenstoepsel? Haben sie es mit
10137			>Eisbergen verstopft? Oder benutzen sie das einstroemende Wasser zu
10138			>Kajakfahrten bis hinunter zum Suedpol? (Das waere doch auch endlich
10139			>mal eine einleuchtende Erklaerung fuer die Eismassen, die die
10140			>Antarktis bedecken - man muesste halt nur, der Kontinentaldrift
10141			>folgend, immer wieder neue Schaechte bohren. Oder die Kontinentaldrift
10142			>einfach wegdiskutieren...)
10143
10144			Die enorme Zentrifugalkraft im Erdinnern schleudert das Wasser wieder
10145			am Nordpolpol raus, falls der Traktorstrahl versagen sollte (Dies
10146			passiert immer dann, wenn das Erdmagnetfeld umkippt). Nun kommt sicher
10147	root	1.388	der Einwand, die Erde würde zu langsam rotieren. Das ist nur bedingt
10148			richtig. Richtig ist hingegen, daß die Rotationsgeschwindigkeit im
10149			Erdinnern um den Faktor 1000 (ca; sehr schwer zu messen: Magma) größer
10150			ist als auf der Erdoberfläche. Dies ist auch die Ursache für die
10151	root	1.1	Kontinentaldrift und die Mondphasen.
10152
10153			Die Mondphasen wiederum beeinflussen das Erdmagnetfeld und sind daher
10154	root	1.388	die Ursache für die Sonnenflecken. Den Sonnenflecken haben wir auch
10155			die momentane Klimaveränderung zu verdanken. Auf der anderen Seite hat
10156			die Zunahme der Treibhausgase eine Erhöhung des Reflektionsvermögens
10157			der Atmosphäre zur Folge, welches dazu führt, daß ein Teil der
10158			Sonnenenergie zur Sonne zurückreflektiert wird. Dies heizt wiederum
10159			die Sonnenflecken auf und verkürzt deren Zyklus. All dies wird sich in
10160			den nächten Monaten so aufschaukeln, daß vorraussichtlich im Novemner
10161	root	1.1	2002 das Erdmagnetfeld zusammenbrechen wird. Wie damals bei den Dinos.
10162			Nur war dort ein Kometeneinschlag die Ursache.
10163
10164			cu in hell 2002
10165	root	1.387	%
10166	root	1.1	"Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '85, Windows '95"
10167	root	1.387	%
10168	root	1.1	>In unix, one might say 'man 3 crypt'.
10169
10170			Of course, on a Solaris system this won't give you what you want. You
10171			get a message that it can't find the man page for 3. It then prints
10172			the man page for crypt(1).
10173
10174			Of course, all a beginner has to do is figure out that the 3 is the
10175			section number in the Unix manual. He can then use man man to find
10176			that on Solaris one uses -s to specify the section so he'll try
10177
10178			man -s3 crypt
10179
10180			Unfortunately, that doesn't work either. He'll get the message "No
10181			entry for crypt in section(s) 3 of the manual."
10182
10183			If he doesn't give up, he can go back to the manual page for man and
10184			find that the -a switch prints all matching manual pages. Or perhaps
10185			he can figure out to use the command
10186
10187			man -s3 Intro.3
10188
10189			to get a list of everything in section 3. He'll then find out that
10190			crypt is in section 3C so he should use
10191
10192			man -s3c crypt
10193
10194			Gee. I don't understand why beginners have so much trouble with this
10195			stuff. I've only been programming Unix for 15 years and I don't have
10196			any trouble.
10197			--
10198			Michael M Rubenstein
10199	root	1.387	%
10200	root	1.1	Take a moment to consider these lines:
10201
10202			%OVERLOAD=( '""' => sub { join("", @{$_[0]}) } );
10203
10204			sub html { my($type)=shift; bless ["<$type>", @_, "</$type>"]; }
10205
10206			:-) I love Perl 5! Thankyou Larry and Ilya.
10207
10208			Regards,
10209			Tim Bunce.
10210
10211			p.s. If you didn't get it, think about recursive data types: html(html())
10212			p.p.s. I'll turn this into a much more practical example in a day or two.
10213			p.p.p.s. It's a pity that overloads are not inherited. Is this a bug?
10214	root	1.387	%
10215	root	1.1	From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10216
10217			...
10218
10219			> now is evil". This only shows two things: you never looked at the bad
10220			> experiences of the industry where following a rotten design and
10221			> keeping backward compatibility lead to unusable systems. And second:
10222
10223			I worked for 3com. I know eveyrhting about following a rotten design until
10224			its unusable, believe me I do.
10225	root	1.387	%
10226	root	1.1	Ok(slow) -> !NeedComputer
10227
10228			Semour Cray
10229	root	1.387	%
10230	root	1.1	Ullrich Jans at University of Karlsruhe, Germany:
10231
10232			Oh Gott! Es ist voller crons!
10233	root	1.387	%
10234	root	1.1	From: p00h <p00h@MONMOUTH.COM>
10235			Subject: Re: AOL for Windows DoS/Exploit
10236
10237			aol supports PARTIAL html, its like win95's implementation of tcp/ip
10238			it only supports parts of it
10239	root	1.387	%
10240	root	1.1	egcs/gcc/gcse.c:
10241			/* Help stamp out big monolithic functions! */
10242	root	1.387	%
10243	root	1.1	[...] Yes, I'm being sarcastic. Especially regarding HPPA assembler syntax
10244			as provided by HP, which was designed by someone who should not have been
10245			let near a language-design project like that, too often "little languages",
10246			whether assemblers, tools, or C++, are designed by people who are unaware
10247			of, or give little thought to, the outright readability of code written in
10248			the language, in the sense that the basic semantics should be fairly obvious
10249			without the reader having to memorize lots of semantic information.
10250
10251			(In HPPA assembler's case, one glaring stupidity was the nullified branches,
10252			which have completely different semantics depending on whether the label
10253			being branched to happens to assemble to a negative or positive offset! A
10254			smarter design would have required the programmer to specify whether such a
10255			branch was a "forward" or "backward" branch explicitly, then the assembler
10256			and/or linker would complain if reality didn't match the programmer's
10257			specification. I've never looked into whether GNU's HPPA as fixes this
10258			botch; I gather GNU as fixes many botches, though, so it wouldn't surprise
10259			me if it did, even though that might make for some compatibility problems
10260			with existing HP as code.) [...]
10261
10262			tq vm, (burley)
10263	root	1.387	%
10264	root	1.1	libc/posix/regex.h:
10265			/* The following two types have to be signed and unsigned integer type
10266			wide enough to hold a value of a pointer. For most ANSI compilers
10267			ptrdiff_t and size_t should be likely OK. Still size of these two
10268			types is 2 for Microsoft C. Ugh... */
10269			typedef long int s_reg_t;
10270			typedef unsigned long int active_reg_t;
10271	root	1.387	%
10272	root	1.1	libc/db2/db.h:
10273			/*
10274			* While Microsoft's compiler is ANSI C compliant, it doesn't have _STDC_
10275			* defined by default, you specify a command line flag or #pragma to turn
10276			* it on. Don't do that, however, because some of Microsoft's own header
10277			* files won't compile.
10278			*/
10279	root	1.387	%
10280	root	1.1	> UTC variation and begining and ending dates of DST (if observed) would be
10281			> great.
10282
10283			I answered only the places I can comment on.
10284
10285			> BASSAS DA INDIA
10286
10287			This rock is below water half of the time!
10288			If any inhabitants have been there, I do not think they observe DST
10289			on a regular basis! ;-)
10290	root	1.387	%
10291	root	1.1	# ./test-plugin.pl
10292			Bizarre copy of CODE in sassign at /root/.gimp/plug-ins/test-plugin.pl line 40.
10293			wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)
10294	root	1.387	%
10295	root	1.1	>
10296			> The "where do you want to go today?" generation has taken the
10297			> developer out of the "programmer" by removing the vital, development
10298			> tools from the environment and precanning software.
10299
10300			No kidding. Point. Click. Point. Click. Point. Click. Brain Atrophy.
10301	root	1.387	%
10302	root	1.1	Lars Chr Hausmann <36haus@but.auc.dk> writes:
10303
10304			>Hello!
10305
10306			>I have to write something about, what Perl is.
10307			>I need some crystal clear info about, what perl is. So if any of you
10308			>would be so kind just to mail. Then I would be grateful!
10309
10310
10311			Perl.
10312
10313			regards
10314			jobst
10315	root	1.387	%
10316	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Cyrix 6x86MX and Centaur C6 CPUs in 2.1.102
10317			From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10318			Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:31:02 +0100 (BST)
10319
10320			> Well, that depends. They SHOULD be. By Intel 'standards' laff, they have
10321			> to be identical stepping, indicating identical features. However, I've
10322
10323			They don't. Pentiums have fairly strict rules, P6/PII much less. Also Intel
10324			are pretty good at following the MP 1.1/1.4 standard its the motherboard
10325			makers who get it wrong - primarily the BIOS is full of bugs. It appears
10326			nobody tests bios code against specs any more. It looks like they do
10327			compile flash, boot 95, boot NT, ship. The quality of bios code has dived to
10328			the absolute pits.
10329	root	1.387	%
10330	root	1.1	Unix never says `Please.' -- Rob Pike
10331	root	1.387	%
10332	root	1.1	> What about: . scriptname
10333			> ------------------^ this is a dot!
10334
10335			Funny, it looks like a "p" to me.
10336	root	1.387	%
10337	root	1.1	A computer without Microsoft and IBM is like chocolate cake without
10338			ketchup and mustard
10339	root	1.387	%
10340	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Challange for perl `GURUS
10341
10342			vimal gajjar wrote:
10343			>
10344			> Hi there,
10345			> Here is a small challange. Is it possible to have a perl
10346			> code which takes e.g. three parameters as input. time, val1, val2. and
10347			> the name of the prog. is say challange.pl. Now if i execute
10348			> "challange.pl 10 5 2" this perl script wille consume
10349			> 5% of cpu
10350			> 2 Mb of RAM
10351			> for the period of 10 Seconds.
10352			>
10353			> can one of the gurus take this challange?
10354
10355			Examining the 5 copies of this post has consumed 5% of the
10356			brain power I allocate to reviewing c.l.p.m, about 10 seconds, and
10357			has caused the death of 2 million brain cells.
10358	root	1.387	%
10359	root	1.1	> >> /A:You can usually write the program faster than you can
10360			> >> dial/dl/hangup/install/read docs/fix it/fix the fix/.
10361			>
10362			> >s/usually/never/
10363			>
10364			> s/sometimes/never/
10365
10366			Cute. You embarrass yourself by your ignorance of perl.
10367	root	1.387	%
10368	root	1.1	:That's probably true, but I really can't speak to it. But, if there
10369			:were no *nix around, there'd be no Perl. Nor would there be a need for
10370			:Perl, IMO.
10371
10372			Gotta love them JCL and ini dot bat dot bad dot doo dah files.
10373
10374			TC
10375	root	1.387	%
10376	root	1.1	'cc:Mail is a wonderful application, as long as you don't want to read or send mail.'
10377	root	1.387	%
10378	root	1.1	shurik@iron.Te.NeT.UA - Alexandr Dubovikov at TeNeT Networking Centre
10379
10380			Hi guys!
10381
10382			How check socket, alive it or die ?
10383	root	1.387	%
10384	root	1.1	--> Questions not to ask on linux-kernel <--
10385
10386			Miscellaneous flame-wars:
10387			~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
10388			12) The gnome-kde debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
10389			13) The emacs-vi debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
10390			14) Porting linux to run under windows is not interesting.
10391			15) Whether a given intel CISC chip "is really RISC" is not interesting.
10392	root	1.387	%
10393	root	1.1	Subject: what a week!
10394			From: "C. Scott Ananian" <cananian@lcs.mit.edu>
10395			Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 03:13:23 -0400 (EDT)
10396
10397			unicode, boot-logos, GGI, STREAMS, the necessity of a short devel cycle
10398			and the instability of 2.0.x, "ifconfig stopped working", "you really do
10399			need to remove 'encaps'", Linus' tarball practices... it seems like we're
10400			running out of things to flame off on. Here's my humble contribution:
10401
10402			I'VE MADE A KEWL NEW CHARSET THAT I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD USE. IT HAS ALL
10403			THE LETTERS IN MY LOGIN MAPPED TO THE LOWEST 16 CHARACTERS SO WE CAN
10404			COMPRESS THINGS REAL GOOD AND THE LETTERS IN MY BROTHER B1FF'S NAME ARE
10405			ALL IN HIGH ASCII CUZ THAT'S WHERE LOSERS BELONG!!!2!!7
10406
10407			I ONLY USE EMACS AND I THINK VI SUX!!$231!!
10408
10409			GNOME RULES AND KDE IS DEMON-SPAWN BECAUSE IT IS NOT FREE.! !
10410
10411			WE NEED KGI IN THE KERNEL (NOT LIBGGI, NOT THE TERMINAL IMPROVEMENTS
10412			WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED) IN ORDER TO HAVE WAY KEWL BOOT LOGOS AND RUN MY
10413			BROTHER B1FF'S GAMES!!1!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!11!!!
10414
10415			I USE A BIG-ENDIAN MACHINE BECAUSE THEY RULE. LITTLE-ENDIAN MACHINES ARE
10416			EVIL. AND A PENTIUM IS A RISC PROCESSOR!!!
10417
10418			WE SHOULD PORT LINUX TO WINDOWS SO WE CAN USE ALL THE KEWL HARDWARE
10419			DRIVERS!!!!!@@#!
10420
10421			Did I miss any? ;-)
10422
10423			Please don't respond seriously to this email. It's a joke. A joke.
10424			Laugh. Please.
10425
10426			And then let's kill all the flaming threads, shall we?
10427			--Scott
10428	root	1.387	%
10429	root	1.1	> Well, /proc/kcore already reports its actual size...
10430
10431			And it isn't about to change at runtime either. That is the size of
10432			installed memory. I've yet to see a single person successfully insert or
10433			remove a SIMM/DIMM while a machine was running. If they did, and it was
10434			successful, the linux code will update the filesize. ;o)
10435	root	1.387	%
10436	root	1.1	Toby Heywood (toby@he-net.demon.co.uk) wrote:
10437			: This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
10438
10439			One of those 'M's stands for Mail.
10440
10441			This is not mail.
10442
10443			This is Usenet.
10444
10445			Please post only plain text like everyone else does.
10446	root	1.387	%
10447	root	1.1	------------ etienne.lorrain@ibm.net
10448			--- hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
10449			--- ide1: reset: success
10450			-----------> I like Linux !
10451	root	1.387	%
10452	root	1.1	> I have experienced people walking up to my console and saying "What
10453			> the hell does that mean" in sheer terror as the machine boots.
10454
10455			Tell them it's magic, and earn the respect of your colleagues. I always
10456			do.
10457	root	1.387	%
10458	root	1.1	++ Actually, I'm not at a loss for words. Here's one that's very appropriate:
10459			++ PLONK.
10460	root	1.387	%
10461	root	1.1	++ > SSI is not HTML.
10462			Re: Subraumfunk
10463
10464			Ja, ein Handy waere da praktisch. Die hoeheren Gebuehren rechnen sich,
10465			wenn man ueber die Grenzen des Sonnensystems hinaus telefonieren will.
10466
10467			Die Telekom wuerde da wieder mal erbarmungslos abzocken. Ich kann es
10468			mir schon vorstellen: SunSystem-Tarif, vielleicht auch einen
10469			InnerPlanets-Sondertarif, dann einen LocalGroupWeekend-Specialtarif,
10470			eine Supercluster-Zone und so weiter. Und wenn es auf der Venus
10471			schneit, telefonieren alle fuer die Haelfte.
10472	root	1.387	%
10473	root	1.1	> > Vergiss es. Du wirst nie und nimmer von Armando eine
10474			> > konkrete, verwertbare Antwort bekommen.
10475			>
10476			> Doch, man bekommt von mir sogar sehr viele Antworten.
10477
10478			Du hast gerade zwei Adjektive weggelassen.
10479	root	1.387	%
10480	root	1.1	++ Oh yeah. Show me an example of SSI used outside of HTML.
10481			Show me an HTML DTD mentioning SSI directives.
10482	root	1.387	%
10483	root	1.1	Namsuk Kim wrote:
10484			> Is there a way to convert a scalar data to Acii data format?
10485
10486			I am not familar with ACII. If you mean ASCII, then the question I have is
10487			- is the data in EBCDIC now?
10488
10489			Bill Jones
10490	root	1.387	%
10491	root	1.1	GNU/getopt.c:
10492
10493			#if defined (WIN32) && !defined (__CYGWIN32__)
10494			/* It's not Unix, really. See? Capital letters. */
10495			#include <windows.h>
10496			#define getpid() GetCurrentProcessId()
10497			#endif
10498	root	1.387	%
10499	root	1.1	Subject: IIS 4.0, PW32i316, CGI Programs
10500
10501			Perlis.dll does not pass command line arguments correctly via the web. That
10502			is, invoking the URL
10503
10504			http://www.myserver.com/myprogram.pl?Argument1&Argument2...&Argumentn
10505
10506			causes the myprogram.pl to execute, but @ARGV is empty.
10507	root	1.387	%
10508	root	1.1	"You need to use CGI."
10509			"I am using CGI, it's a CGI application!"
10510			"No, no, use CGI. The directive 'use'."
10511			"OK, so what directive do I use?"
10512			"No, no, you use use. Use CGI."
10513			"I am using CGI!"
10514
10515			Craig Berry - cberry@cinenet.net
10516	root	1.387	%
10517	root	1.1	> > Was haltet Ihr von Killfile-mailing-lists, dass sich die Leute mal
10518			> > kennenlernen koennen?
10519			>
10520	root	1.388	> Gute Idee ;-), wäre ich sofort dabei, datrifft man wahrscheinlich ne
10521	root	1.1	> Menge tolle Leute... ;-) und die wahren Freidenker.
10522
10523			Einige Freidenker sicher, aber auch etliche Denkfreie.
10524	root	1.387	%
10525	root	1.1	"I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big or
10526			professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones." -- Linus Torvalds 1991
10527	root	1.387	%
10528	root	1.1	If it's a floppy, it might be a copy.
10529			If it's a disk, you're also at risk.
10530			If it's a pirate, the vendors are irate.
10531			To avoid such frustration, try: Free Software Foundation.
10532	root	1.387	%
10533	root	1.1	From: David Woodhouse <Dave@imladris.demon.co.uk>
10534
10535			pcg@goof.com said:
10536			> It was much more than I usally get! It was _great_
10537
10538			Hehe - I know the feeling.
10539
10540			"It's broken."
10541			"What's wrong with it?."
10542			"I don't know - it just doesn't work."
10543			"Well what do you mean by 'it's broken'?"
10544			"It just doesn't work."
10545			"How can you _tell_ it's broken, for f***'s sake - what are the symptoms!?"
10546			"It gives an error message."
10547			"Would you care to tell me what it says?"
10548			"It says.... something about there being an error."
10549			"That's not very helpful. Tell me it word for word."
10550			"It says 'Unable to handle kernel NULL reference at something or other'"
10551			"That's not word for word. It said 'NULL pointer dereference.' Try again,
10552			letter for letter this time."
10553	root	1.387	%
10554	root	1.1	From: "Paul B. Henson" <henson@INTRANET.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
10555
10556			After installing Solaris 2.6 HW3/98, I discovered that /usr/bin/admintool
10557			had been installed mode 0777, world writable. Under the original release of
10558			2.6, the mode was 04555.
10559
10560			Sun has been notified of the problem. If you're running 2.6 HW3/98, you
10561			might want to verify your admintool hasn't been tampered with and fix the
10562			perms.
10563
10564			(Personally, I'd set them to 0000 ;). admintool? blech.)
10565	root	1.387	%
10566	root	1.1	From: verah@netscape.com (Vera Horiuchi)
10567			Subject: Re: Risp: drama (Re: Do It Yourself)
10568
10569			Americans ignorant of the rest of the world?
10570
10571			I must tell a favorite story here. A friend and I were purchasing a gift
10572			for another friend who lives in Canada. I was speculating out loud about
10573			how much duty our Canadian friend would have to pay.
10574
10575			The cashier said, "Oh, I'm sure Canadians don't have to pay any duty. We
10576			ship to Hawaii all the time, and _they_ don't have to pay duty." =:-0
10577	root	1.387	%
10578	root	1.388	>am besten ist z.Z. das Buch von Michael Neufeld. Wer aber Wissenslücken
10579			>verspürt (was keine Schande ist), sollte diese zu stopfen suchen und nicht
10580	root	1.1	>Zuflucht zu absolut hirnrissigen Theorien suchen.
10581
10582			Hirnrissig bist Du. Das es einen Zeittransfer aus der Zukunft zu den Nazis
10583			gab deckt sich mit dazu passenden Entschluesselungen bestimmter Bibelstellen
10584			und mit der dann tatsaechlichen notwendigen Geheimhaltung. Es deckt sich
10585			ueberdies damit, dass die Unterhaltung uns den Gedanken zunehmend nahelegt,
10586			also vorbereitet, und dass es bereits ein wissenschaftliches Experiment gab,
10587			bei dem ERST die Wirkung auftrat und DANN die Ursache. Die Zeitreise ist
10588			also Fakt. Und es ist sicher, dass Jemand per Zeitreise den Nazis helfen
10589			wollte. Gelegentliche Theorien, dass auch diese ausserirdische Hilfe gehabt
10590			haetten sollen nur davon ablenken, eine andere Erklaerung liefern. Das ist
10591			logisch, denn die Taeter sitzen ja irgendwo in unserer Zeit und moechten
10592			sicher nicht erkannt werden.
10593
10594			Du scheinst die simpelsten Grundzuege der Zeitlogik nicht verstehen zu wollen.
10595
10596			normarz@aol.com
10597	root	1.387	%
10598	root	1.1	>Oder anders gesagt:
10599	root	1.388	>Glaubst Du, Du könntest mit einem hochmodernen Maschinengewehr eine römische
10600	root	1.1	>Legion
10601			>schlagen?
10602
10603			Klar. Frage mal Cortez.
10604
10605			Bye
10606			Andreas
10607	root	1.387	%
10608	root	1.1	>Article 2B is a threat to anyone who uses a computer. I just wanted to
10609
10610			It may be a threat to any american using a computer. Fortunately, the U.S.
10611			justice does not yet apply outside the U.S.A.
10612
10613			I.a.W.: You're currently creating a lot of happy non-U.S. software
10614			companies.
10615
10616			Kind regards
10617			Henning
10618	root	1.387	%
10619	root	1.1	From: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>
10620			Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:14:11 -0700
10621			Subject: Re: driver for Creative Labs DVD kits
10622
10623			At least with the IDE DVD drive that I have, plugging it directly
10624			into an IDE port and using the regular Linux ide-cd driver works just fine
10625			for reading [...] CD and the [not] copy protected sections of the DVD's.
10626
10627			There is a protocol that the hardware decoder boards use to
10628			tell the DVD drive that they are a licensed implementation and should
10629			be allowed to read the copy protected sectors as well. I have been
10630			told that this protocol can be done entirely in software with a
10631			standard IDE port. Hopefully, somebody will reverse engineer this and
10632			make it a demand loaded kernel module. (Seriously, there is a lot
10633			that you are allowed to do with copyrighted material that this sort of
10634			hardware restriction prevents, and there are other important political
10635			issues involved relating to your rights to do as you please with the
10636			computer equipment that you bought and paid for.)
10637	root	1.387	%
10638	root	1.1	Where do you want to go today?
10639			We might support that sometime next year.
10640			-=- Microsoft
10641			(But I doubt it.)
10642			-=- Me
10643			-=- James Mastros
10644	root	1.387	%
10645	root	1.1	Hello570 <hello570@aol.com> wrote:
10646			> I tried printing a line to a file using both of the
10647			> following methods, but the output was split into two
10648			>lines.
10649
10650			If you don't want newlines in the middle of your string, then don't
10651			put newlines in the middle of your string.
10652	root	1.387	%
10653	root	1.1	http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/Dean_Roehrich/subjects.post
10654	root	1.387	%
10655	root	1.1	Einstein himself said that God doesn't roll dice. But he was wrong. And
10656			in fact, anyone who has played role-playing games knows that God
10657			probably had to roll quite a few dice to come up with a character like
10658			Einstein. -- Larry Wall
10659	root	1.387	%
10660	root	1.1	From: Ragnar Hojland Espinosa <root@lightside.ddns.org>
10661
10662			My $0.02 Euros on internationalization? I'm in Spain and my keyboard is
10663			mosty US mapped because the Spanish map is really awkward for programming.
10664			Computers were designed to be funcional, not politically (or locally)
10665			correct (hm, I don't think HAL ever spoke Russian). This "computers are easy
10666			for all" GUI related trend has done a lot of money, and lot of damage; at
10667			least command line OSes forced the user to actually learn something and
10668			absorb information. The user assumed so, so he did. Now he doesn't, and
10669			it's not all his fault.
10670
10671			The WWW is full of useless (and ugly) graphics, of useless links to links to
10672			pages with links to links which usually end up in a huge links page. Of
10673			course, there are some jewels.. but they should be majority! It's
10674			understandable, when the tools and languages focus more on aspect that in
10675			content.
10676
10677			Usenet is worse than ever, the interesting places have been ruined by
10678			spammers, c00l hak3rz, and more and more people asking (or demanding) for
10679			others doing their homework.. at least some time ago they were willing to
10680			learn (or pay for it;)
10681
10682			IRC.. heh. The few times I've been on funet almost all I found is the same
10683			people in the above paragraph. And I do know some of them even run scripts
10684			to try denial of service or other destructive attacks on people they see,
10685			just for fun or to get the op.
10686
10687			Email. Someone selling an "incredible program that allows you to bypass
10688			your ISP mail server, for only $89" (thats right, a smtp server). No OS
10689			mentioned, I somehow can guess which. And that stupid thing of sending
10690			mail to people in RTF and HTML format.. I'm gonna answer them in LaTeX.
10691
10692			Internet, your ilimited junk yard.
10693
10694			Using computers would make me real sad if it wasn't for UNIX and, of
10695			course, Linux and Linux people.
10696	root	1.387	%
10697	root	1.1	... WNT == ++VMS . Literally. Dave Cutler created VMS,
10698			then he rewrote it as WNT.
10699
10700			Ever used VMS? It's a step above DOS. Barely.
10701			--
10702			Clark O. Morgan cmorgan@aracnet.com
10703	root	1.387	%
10704	root	1.1	>Subject: If "=~" means match what is doesn't match?
10705
10706			I heard that a friend of a friend might have once been told about a
10707			rumor that this information can be found in perlop, right next to
10708			where =~ is documented. (It's !~)
10709
10710			I agree with Tom's assessment that the fall of modern man will be
10711			preceded by the de-evolution of communications to the days of oral
10712			tradition.
10713	root	1.387	%
10714	root	1.1	"Windows 95, the most installed system in the world,
10715			I know, I've done it 5 or 6 times myself"
10716	root	1.387	%
10717	root	1.1	The statistics programming language S, from AT&T, combines lazy
10718			evaluation with imperative programming. A nightmare.
10719	root	1.387	%
10720	root	1.1	"In 1965, as part of a research and development project for the
10721			U.S. Army, engineers at TRW Corp developed a software program
10722			called Generalized Information Retrieval Lanaguage and System."
10723			Or GIRLS for short.
10724	root	1.387	%
10725	root	1.1	Wissen bremst die Meinungsbildung voll aus.
10726	root	1.387	%
10727	root	1.1	I have an idea: Anybody who posts an URGENT! or EMERGENCY! request should
10728			post the circumstances behind the urgency. "I was having sex with my
10729			mistress in the server room and I knocked the Linux box over and the hard
10730			drive crashed and so I've reinstalled everything but I still can't get
10731			5_004_03 to build!"
10732
10733			This would inspire me to action far more than the implied subtext of "I
10734			have no patience."
10735
10736			xoxo,
10737			Andy
10738	root	1.387	%
10739	root	1.1	> I have Perl5 running on my pc.
10740			> and also front page98 and microsoft personal web server runnig.
10741			We all have our cross to bear.
10742	root	1.387	%
10743	root	1.1	(THIS IS LONG, YOU MAY WANT TO SKIP)
10744
10745			From: mjd@plover.com (Mark-Jason Dominus)
10746			Date: 09 Nov 1995 02:57:30 GMT
10747			Subject: Re: system() question
10748
10749			There are a lot of reasons, many of which get repeated over and
10750			over again, many of which don't. Some of the reasons you hear a lot
10751			are: Questions are incoherently phrased. Questions have the form 'My
10752			code doesn't work' and don't include the code. Questions include the
10753			code, and it's 200 lines long, and comp.lang.perl is not a debugging
10754			service. Nobody knows the answer to the question. The question is so
10755			badly punctuated that nobody can bear to read it. Questions aer
10756			written by a non-native speaker of English and the native speakers who
10757			are trying to understand it can't. (That's a shame, but it does
10758			happen. I often wish that these people would post in their native
10759			languages. I'd love to see more discussion in languages other than
10760			English. Some Dutch guy tried posting all his comp.lang.c articles in
10761			Dutch a few years ago, and all the Americans flamed him. How
10762			humiliating for me!)
10763
10764			Apart from these oft-mentioned reasons are many others that are
10765			not so often discussed, because anyone who tries to bring them up gets
10766			flamed. But it's the truth: I know the reason I don't answer more
10767			questions is because so many of them questions are so damn stupid.
10768			They're stupid in a lot of different ways, but they're still stupid.
10769			I don't want to suggest that that's why your questions go unanswered.
10770			I don't know what you're asking. No doubt the reason your questions
10771			go unanswered is because they're so deep and interesting that nobody
10772			really knows the answer.
10773
10774			The most common stupid question is the one from someone who has
10775			some high-level problem that they need solved. They have an idea that
10776			they'd like to do it in perl, and they don't really know perl. So
10777			instead of learning perl, they post to comp.lang.perl.misc.
10778
10779			Now don't get me wrong. I don't have any problems answering the
10780			questions of someone who's trying to learn perl. I love THOSE
10781			qusetions. But these people don't seem to be asking useful questions
10782			for that.
10783
10784			Today, for example, I saw a question from a guy who wants to get a
10785			list of hostnames out of nslookup. `How do I do that?' he says. And
10786			it's hard to know what to make of that. What does he mean? Does he
10787			not know how to open a pipe? Is his en' command failing? What's
10788			going on here? I can't give a useful answer without understanding the
10789			problem. Having your en' fail is a problem. Wanting to list
10790			hostnames is not a problem; it's a desire.
10791
10792			Here are some similar questions that would have made more sense to me:
10793
10794			1. `I'm a lazy asshole and I can't be bothered to learn to
10795			program myself, but I know if I post here you'll give me
10796			something for free.''
10797
10798			(OK, fair enough. At least I can send him a rate card.)
10799
10800			2. `I'm trying to use en' to talk to nslookup, but...
10801			...here's my code; what's wrong?''
10802
10803			(Good question.)
10804
10805			3. `I know perl has a `System' command for running programs,
10806			but I can't see how to get my commands into nslookup
10807			once I have run it.''
10808			(Good question.)
10809
10810			4. `I'm trying to use `Getprotobynumber' to talk to nslookup...''
10811
10812			(Good question.)
10813
10814			See, I'm not just biting people's heads off, here. #4 is a good
10815			question, because it gives me something to work with. OK, he has a
10816			very weird idea about interprocess communication, but that's
10817			ignorance, and that's what we're here to correct. He doesn't know
10818			about en'; I can refer him to the manual.
10819
10820			Here's another example: Some guy wants to assemble a list of email
10821			addresses . `How do I do that?'' he wants to know. Well, duh. Get a
10822			big pad of paper and read news for a couple days and write down all
10823			the addresses you see. Problem solved. What's it doing in
10824			comp.lang.perl?
10825			Oh, you wanted to do it in perl. Well, I guess I'd open a socket
10826			to the NNTP server and send it some XHDR commands for the `From'
10827			lines. But that's not Perl; you could do that in any language. I
10828			could do it in Bourne Shell for you if I'm allowed to use a little
10829			external thingie to handle the socket parts for me. What's it doing
10830			in comp.lang.perl?
10831
10832			Oh, you wanted us to write the program for you? Wait, let me send
10833			you my rate card.
10834
10835			Someone posted yesterday asking how to get the data from a file where
10836			the start and end of the data is marked by keywords. Same thing going on
10837			here. `Well, here's how you solve your problem: First you go take an
10838			introductory class in programming and learn to write programs in some
10839			language. Then you go to the bookstore and buy this book by Wall and
10840			Schwartz, it's really good. Read the book carefully and try out the
10841			examples. Then if you still have general questions like `How do I do this'
10842			instead of thought that this code would do X but instead it does Y' you hire
10843			a professional to write your program for you. Or you could just skip right
10844			to step 3. Want my rate card?''
10845
10846			The worst stupid questions are the ones that come from people who
10847			have no business asking them. The most perfect example of this that I
10848			could have imagined was in comp.unix.questions a couple of years ago.
10849			Some guy came and asked how you could tell if a file is a hard link.
10850			My jaw flapped open and it's stayed open since then. I couldn't have
10851			been any more stumped if he'd asked why Bodhidharma came from the
10852			West. What do you say to this guy? Do you tell him the truth, that
10853			all files are hard links, that even symbolic links are hard links?
10854			He's not going to understand you; you might as well keep your mouth
10855			shut. Do you tell him the truth, that the answer won't do him any
10856			good because he doesn't know what a hard link is, so why did he bother
10857			asking in the first place? No, that'll just make him mad. I followed
10858			that message for the next couple weeks, and nobody said anything.
10859			What could you say? The guy had no business asking the question and
10860			no use for the answer. Maybe the right answer would have been to cut
10861			off his finger or something. I dunno.
10862
10863			Some questions get ignored because they're boring. Someone asked
10864			today how to compare two variables (I assumme he means the contents of
10865			those variables) to see if they're exactly the same. You've gotta be
10866			in an awfully good mood to take the time to answer that. Maybe
10867			someone will. Maybe I will.
10868
10869			If I answer that one today, maybe he'll be back tomorrow asking
10870			how to check to see if two variables contain different values. Maybe
10871			I won't. What I find incredible is that if you tell these people to
10872			go read the manual and come back in two weeks, you sometimes get
10873			jumped on for not being helpful to beginners. Bah. If everyone told
10874			these people to go read the manual, they'd eventually figure out that
10875			that's what you have to do ,and then I wouldn't have to spend so much
10876			of my life dealing with incompetent programmers.
10877
10878			Some questions are logically nonsensical because the querent
10879			thinks they know more than they do. A lot of these have the form
10880			`How do I use X to accomplish Y?'' There's nothing wrong with this,
10881			except that sometimes X is a chocolate-covered banana and Y is the
10882			integration of European currency systems. I always get stuck on
10883			these, probably because I can't get rid of the idea that the person
10884			really has a good reason for wanting to use X. I know a half-dozen
10885			easy simple ways to accomplish Y, but I can't imagine what X has to do
10886			with it. This is a problem for me in my day job, too. Clients are
10887			always saying to me `We want to use product X to do multimedia
10888			development on the world-wide web,'' and all I can think is `Well,
10889			gee, what would you want to go and do that for?'' Sometimes it turns
10890			out that they want to do it because they want to impress the
10891			manufacturers of X, and I don't work on those jobs.
10892
10893			The flip side of this is a questions like `I want to accomplish
10894			X, but I don't want to use Y. What can I use instead?'' Which,
10895			again, is sometimes reasonable, and then sometimes X is closing a
10896			filehandle and Y is the `Close' function.
10897
10898			The questions I like the best are the ones that go like this:
10899
10900			`I want to accomplish X.
10901
10902			I thought that the following code fragment would do it:
10903
10904			...
10905
10906			But instead it does Y.
10907
10908			Why is that?''
10909
10910			This one is also pretty good:
10911
10912			`I want to accomplish X.
10913			I thought I might be able to use facility Y.
10914
10915			But Y doesn't seem like it's quite right,
10916			because of Z.
10917
10918			What should I use instead of Y, or how can I overcome Z?''
10919
10920			When I ignore these, it's usually because I don't know the answer.
10921			There were an awful lot of them today. It makes me very happy.
10922
10923
10924			There you go; a 160-line dissertation on why questions go unanswered.
10925			Now don't let me hear you saying nobody ever answers your questions.
10926
10927			--
10928			Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
10929			The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
10930	root	1.387	%
10931	root	1.1	>> BTW, would it be easier to cope with international text using Python?
10932			>Sigh... you're breaking my heart. Ask Jack Jansen, he probably knows.
10933
10934			If I were really evel, I would point out that the newest TCL (8.1) has
10935			support for international character sets and Unicode. But then, mentioning
10936			TCL in this newsfroup would be really bad. So, of course, I don't do that.
10937
10938			Ups. I'm so sorry ... ;-)
10939
10940			bye, Georg
10941	root	1.387	%
10942	root	1.1	I personally do not believe in object orientation as a security model
10943			(nor as a general programming paradigm), but feel free to try to
10944			convince me.
10945
10946			[ Or maybe I confuse you with somebody else and some other posting ]
10947
10948			Linus
10949	root	1.387	%
10950	root	1.1	++ how can i strip new lines out at var.
10951			++
10952
10953			Removing new lines is very tricky, as the manual tells you so. Ignore the
10954			complicated things in the manual, and put in this neat little trick:
10955
10956	root	1.85	$var=join+q,,,grep{ord$[[qq$\137$]]<10 or+10<ord}split+q,,,$var;
10957	root	1.1
10958			If you're old enough not to read the manual, you won't have a problem
10959			understanding the above line.
10960
10961			Abigail
10962	root	1.387	%
10963	root	1.1	I fixed the problem by mounting the SCO volume on the SunOS box, and since
10964			1995 the problem has gone away together with the SCO machine.
10965	root	1.387	%
10966	root	1.1	++ Hi Does anybody know how to upload many graphic files at the push of a
10967			++ button?
10968			Yes.
10969
10970			++ 100 pictures or so?
10971			Yes.
10972
10973			++ Can I do it in Perl?
10974			Yes.
10975
10976			Your question isn't Perl specific. Please ask in the relevant
10977			newsgroup. alt.button.play
10978
10979			Abigail
10980	root	1.387	%
10981	root	1.1	perly gates - The way to perl; Enter hackerdom.
10982
10983			perly Gates - Contradictio in Terminis.
10984
10985			Martien
10986	root	1.387	%
10987	root	1.388	Ren hat weder von Sinnhaftigkeit noch von Kausalität geschrieben, sondern
10988			nur von Logik. Logik und Kausalität sind in unserem (normalen) Denken zwar
10989			eng miteinander verknüpft, sind aber nicht dasselbe. Sinn ist hingegen noch
10990			etwas Drittes und ganz verschiedenes! "Sinn" bedeutet mindestens, daß eine
10991	root	1.1	Sache eine gewisse Richtung hat, wie in "Uhrzeigersinn". Meistens bedeutet
10992	root	1.388	Sinn aber, daß eine Sache einen bestimmten Zweck erfüllt. Auch darf man
10993			nicht "verursachen" mit "begründen" verwechseln, weil die beiden
10994			unterschiedlich sind. Die Existenz muß auch keinen Sinn haben, um eine
10995			Ursache zu haben. Das sind zwei völlig voneinander unabhängige Sachen. Die
10996	root	1.1	Existenz hat einen Sinn, also eine Richtung, wenn wir unserer Existenz eine
10997	root	1.388	Richtung geben. Dieser Sinn kann auf etwas abzielen, was außerhalb unserer
10998			selbst steht, muß aber nicht... Sie kann auch einen Sinn haben, der schon da
10999	root	1.1	war, bevor wir uns danach ausgerichtet haben - von all dem schreibt Ren aber
11000			nicht. ;)
11001
11002	root	1.388	Worauf Ren wohl hinaus wollte, ist, daß wenn die Logik des begrenzten Raumes
11003			nicht gilt, daß dann die Logik schlechthin hinfällig wird und so jedes Sein
11004			fragwürdig wird. Das ist aber nicht der Fall, da die Logik, die er von den
11005	root	1.1	Grenzen des Raumes aufstellt, gar keine wirkliche Logik ist, sondern nur die
11006			Grenzen des menschlichen Verstandes zeigt. Er kann sich nicht vorstellen,
11007	root	1.388	daß außerhalb der Grenzen des Raumes "Nichts" ist, weil man sich als Mensch
11008	root	1.1	das Nichts nicht vorstellen kann.
11009
11010	root	1.388	Darüber hinaus meinte er, daß die "Existenz unlogisch" würde. Dieser Satz
11011			ist vollkommen unverständlich. Denn entweder ist etwas, oder es ist nicht.
11012	root	1.1	Das ist auch schon die ganze Logik einer Existenz. (Aristoteles: Satz vom
11013	root	1.388	ausgeschlossenen Dritten) Unlogisch wäre, wenn etwas ist, das nicht ist oder
11014	root	1.1	wenn etwas nicht ist, das ist.
11015
11016	root	1.388	Von der Unfähigkeit des Menschen, sich einen unbegrenzten aber endlichen
11017	root	1.1	Raum (oder wie auch immer der Weltraum nun aussieht) vorzustellen auf die
11018	root	1.388	"Unlogik der Existenz" zu schließen, ist aber wohl nicht ganz möglich, zumal
11019			eine Existenz nicht unlogisch sein kann. Was sollte das auch heißen? Daher
11020	root	1.1	ist das Problem, das Ren aufwirft, nur ein Scheinproblem. Die Existenz an
11021	root	1.388	sich wird nicht in Frage gestellt dadurch, daß man sich etwas - egal was -
11022	root	1.1	nicht vorstellen kann. Er verwechselt die Begriffe "unlogisch" und
11023			"unvorstellbar".
11024
11025			Thomas.Decker@lrz.uni-muenchen.de
11026	root	1.387	%
11027	root	1.1	Marcel Richter wrote:
11028			> Marcel Richter - IQ: 3538327
11029			^^^
11030			fehlt da nicht irgendwo ein Komma.... =?-)
11031	root	1.387	%
11032	root	1.1	The X server has to be the biggest program I've ever seen that doesn't
11033			do anything for you. --Ken Thompson
11034	root	1.387	%
11035	root	1.1	linux-2.1.92/fs/autofs/root.c:
11036			printk("autofs: trying to recover, but prepare for Armageddon\n");
11037	root	1.387	%
11038	root	1.1	>>Vincent DiPietro, the discoverer of the face on mars, has thrown in
11039			>>the towel, and said that the face on mars is a pile of rocks.
11040			>Was sollte es denn sonst sein?
11041
11042			An artificial pile of rocks.
11043	root	1.387	%
11044	root	1.1	> ps: mal nebenbei: eine unbekannte variable beim analysieren des
11045			> marsgesichtes ist es, dass mensch gar nicht weiss, wie die lebende,
11046			> gedachte oder sonstige vorlage eigentlich aussieht. dazu kommt natuerlich
11047			> noch das fehlende wissen um die intention des "kuenstlers", ob er
11048			> beispielsweise nur aspekte bzw. partien eines gesichtes integrieren wollte
11049			> - und natuerlich, ob es ueberhaupt kunst ist:)
11050
11051			Ganz genau. Und das Matterhorn ist eine palaeoimpressionistische Studie des
11052			Geruchsorgans der Rasse der Ciabattanimalier. Aber das wussten hier
11053			sicherlich schon alle. Das ganze Universum ist ausserdem eigentlich nur ein
11054			grosser Flipperautomat.
11055
11056			Christoph Schulte Moenting - ubec@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
11057	root	1.387	%
11058	root	1.1	> Kris Weilemann schrieb
11059			>
11060			> >MIR ging es neulich aehnlich. Ich wurde von Ausserirdischen entfuehrt.
11061			> >Ich wurde eingesperrt in einem dunklem Raum mit langen Sitzreihen und mit
11062			> >einer Popcorn-artigen Substanz gefuettert. Nach 2 Stunden war alles
11063			> >vorbei. Einen Tag spaeter stellte ich fest, dass mir 18 Mark im
11064			> >Geldbeutel fehlten. Ist das nicht krass? -Kris.
11065	root	1.387	%
11066	root	1.388	... Jazz ist nicht nur das erfolgreichste, sondern auch das einzige originäre Kunstgenre,
11067			daß die USA jemals hervorgebracht haben.
11068	root	1.1
11069			"Apropos Musik", HR2 am 16.4.98
11070	root	1.387	%
11071	root	1.1	http://www.rsw.com/
11072
11073			The Unix shell as a 4GL
11074
11075			Unix provides hundreds of programs that can be piped together to easily
11076			perform almost any function imaginable. Nothing comes close to providing the
11077			functions that come standard with Unix. Programs and philosophies carried
11078			over from other systems put walls between the user and Unix, and the power
11079			of Unix is thrown away. The shell, extended with a few relational operators,
11080			is the fourth generation database scripting language most appropriate to the
11081			Unix environment.
11082	root	1.387	%
11083	root	1.1	Perl is incredibly difficult to parse. For example, what's the difference
11084			between these:
11085
11086			time /3 ;#/; print "hello";
11087			sin /3 ;#/; print "goodbye";
11088
11089			Right. The first one is time divided by 3, and the print is in a comment.
11090			The second one is the sin of the result of a regular expression match for "3
11091			;#", and the print gets executed!
11092
11093			There's no pure BNF in the world that'll handle that. And remember, with
11094			"use" and prototypes available, whether you parse something like "sin" or
11095			"time" depends on its definition in some other file, somewhere in the galaxy
11096			(or even decided by Perl code in a BEGIN block, that evals a prototype!).
11097
11098			Which led Larry to say at one point: "the only thing that can parse Perl is
11099			'perl'".
11100
11101			--
11102			Randal L. Schwartz
11103	root	1.387	%
11104	root	1.1	Ronald J Kimball <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu> writes:
11105
11106			> Pascal AMRAM wrote:
11107			> > Subject: MSEXCHANGE / OUTLOOK
11108			>
11109			> So here I am trying to figure out what an M sex change is....
11110
11111			It's obviously the opposite of an F sex change. HTH.
11112
11113			--
11114			Jonathan Feinberg jdf@pobox.com Sunny Brooklyn, NY
11115	root	1.387	%
11116	root	1.1	The management (my cats) made me say this.
11117	root	1.387	%
11118	root	1.1	uae-0.6.9/custom.c:800:
11119			write_log ("Program is torturing BPLCON1.\n");
11120	root	1.387	%
11121	root	1.1	uae-0.6.9/src/memory.c:363
11122			write_log ("Your Amiga program just did something terribly stupid\n");
11123	root	1.387	%
11124	root	1.1	Closures make sense in any programming language where you
11125			can have the return value of a function be itself a
11126			function, as you can in Perl. Note that some languages
11127			provide anonymous functions but are not capable of
11128			providing proper closures; the Python language, for
11129			example.
11130	root	1.387	%
11131	root	1.1	When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to
11132			resemble a nail.
11133	root	1.387	%
11134	root	1.1	> but all I get are 501 errors, method not supported. I am not 100% sure what
11135			> I did wrong.
11136
11137			What you did wrong was post a microsoft server question to a perl
11138			newsgroup.
11139	root	1.387	%
11140	root	1.1	I am trying to learn Perl on my Windows 97 system. In particular...
11141	root	1.387	%
11142	root	1.388	>Es kamen Außerirdische, die Pyramiden bauten und andere Wunder
11143			>vollbrachten. Dafür wurden sie vergöttert. Diese außerirdischen bauten dann
11144	root	1.1	>wahrscheinlich auch die Cydonia Region.
11145
11146			Etwa zehnmal zu oft 'Stargate' gesehen, was?
11147	root	1.387	%
11148	root	1.388	>Die Menschheit kämpft seit Millionen von Jahren gegeneinander.
11149	root	1.1
11150	root	1.388	Welche Hälfte ist denn da die grössere? :o)
11151	root	1.387	%
11152	root	1.1	...am still rebuilding after being hit with a clock changing virus it reset
11153			my clock to 2039 unfortunately for me my OS is beta 98 needless to say it
11154			expired instantly!!!
11155	root	1.387	%
11156	root	1.1	From: Per Bothner <bothner@cygnus.com>
11157			To: Pal Engstad <engstad@hunt.inmet.com>
11158
11159			> Linus Torvalds requires that all code in the source is using a tab
11160			> length of 8 spaces, and he also states that you are a bad programmer
11161			> if you write code with more than 3 indentation levels.
11162
11163			I didn't know that Linus Torvalds has done research on programming styles.
11164			He much have, since why else would you have the audacity quote him as
11165			an authority, on a list where there are dozens of people with more
11166			than double Linus's programming experience?
11167
11168			> This has caused the code to be fairly easy to read and maintainance is
11169			> pretty straight forward.
11170
11171			Irrelevant - a kernel is a lot simpler than an optimizing compiler,
11172			in terms of complexity of algorithms and data structures.
11173	root	1.387	%
11174	root	1.1	Nach der Diskussion muss ich akzeptieren, dass die juengst erfolgte
11175			Erdbeschleunigung von - 0,6 auf - 0,4 Millisekunden kein zwingender Beweis
11176			fuer einen Permanentantrieb ist. Aber: In letzter Zeit kommt es bei mir immer
11177			wieder vor, dass ich Dinge einfach weiss. Selbst wenn ich sie nicht begruenden
11178			kann. Ich weiss trotzdem dass sie stimmen muessen und der Antrieb existiert.
11179			Mit der Zeit findet sich dann auch die Begruendung.
11180	root	1.387	%
11181	root	1.1	Wir suchen neue AussenMitarbeiterInnen... (S.Pernar@Link-Goe)
11182	root	1.387	%
11183	root	1.1	hyperltext (hy'perl-text), n. double-quotish-interpolated hypertext markup:
11184			Example:
11185			print qq[[<LI><A HREF="$self->[[url]]">@[[[ucfirst $self->[[title]]]]]</A>\n]];
11186	root	1.387	%
11187	root	1.1	liperlsuction: What happens to any script longer than 10 lines once
11188			Randal gets his hands on it
11189	root	1.387	%
11190	root	1.1	Uperl Volta - country where perl programmers control the electricity.
11191	root	1.387	%
11192	root	1.1	> Anybody successfully installed the win32 version of Perl?
11193
11194			No! Millions of people don't use perl on win32 machines. You may be the
11195			first if you get it working.
11196	root	1.387	%
11197	root	1.1	> Macintosh.
11198			> Think different.
11199
11200			Think Again.
11201	root	1.387	%
11202	root	1.1	Bill.Cilnton@dyselxia.com
11203	root	1.387	%
11204	root	1.1	tsatan@hotmail.com writes:
11205			> Why does perl have the "push" and "unshift" functions? ...
11206			> push @nums, 4; is the same as @nums = (@nums, 4);
11207
11208			What do you want, Scheme? ;)
11209	root	1.387	%
11210	root	1.1	# There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'.
11211			# It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
11212	root	1.387	%
11213	root	1.1	\| I am returning this otherwise good typing paper to you because
11214			\| someone has printed gibberish all over it and put your name at the
11215			\| top.
11216	root	1.387	%
11217	root	1.1	I had a student ask about the UN9 operating system. I didn't understabd what
11218			he was talking about so he wrote UNIX on the board.
11219	root	1.387	%
11220	root	1.1	On 1 Apr 98 17:34:23 GMT, Schulung7 wrote:
11221			^^^^^^^^^
11222			>Was haltet ihr vom UFO-Absturz in Rosswell?
11223
11224			Nichts. Und jetzt geh woanders spielen.
11225	root	1.387	%
11226	root	1.1	>Kann man hier irgendwie mal die UFOs reinbringen, um die es in dieser NG
11227			>gehen soll?
11228
11229	root	1.388	Nein, der Datentyp wäre inkompatibel. UFOs sind per Definitionem
11230	root	1.1	materielle Objekte (obwohl das zur Zeit fraglich ist ;-), die sich in
11231			diesem Medium nicht austauschen lassen.
11232	root	1.387	%
11233	root	1.1	Wer redet hier denn von der "Hui Hui"? Ich sprach von "Hui! Hui!".
11234	root	1.387	%
11235	root	1.388	>> nein...ist kein Sender. Eine taiwanesische Sekte hat behauptet, daß am
11236			>> 25.3. auf allen TVs der Welt Gott auf Kanal 18 erscheinen würde.
11237	root	1.1	>> Ist natuerlich nicht eingetreten.
11238			>
11239			>Aber unsere Haus-Sat-Anlage geht seither nicht mehr.
11240
11241			Ein Zeichen! Er hat uns ein Zeichen gegeben! Zieht alle euren linken
11242			Schuh aus!
11243	root	1.387	%
11244	root	1.1	>Klingt nach Erdstillstand.
11245
11246	root	1.388	Ich bin entsetzt. Man hat hoffentlich sofort Wiederbedrehungsmaßnahmen
11247	root	1.1	eingeleitet?
11248	root	1.387	%
11249	root	1.1	Mars Global Surveyor Imaging Schedule
11250
11251
11252			First opportunity
11253			Approximate
11254			Orbit Internet
11255			Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11256
11257			4-3-98 09:58/1:58 a.m. 216 Viking Lander 1 April 6
11258			4-3-98 21:37/1:37 p.m. 217 Viking Lander 2 April 7
11259			4-4-98 09:16/1:16 a.m. 218 Mars Pathfinder April 7
11260			4-5-98 08:33/12:33 a.m. 220 Cydonia April 6 (mid-a.m.)
11261
11262			Second opportunity
11263			Approximate
11264			Orbit Internet
11265			Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11266
11267			4-12-98 15:23/ 8:23 a.m. 235 Viking Lander 1 April 14
11268			4-13-98 03:01/ 8:01 p.m. 236 Viking Lander 2 April 15
11269			4-13-98 14:40/ 7:40 a.m. 237 Mars Pathfinder April 15
11270			4-14-98 13:57/ 6:57 a.m. 239 Cydonia April 14 (mid-p.m.)
11271
11272			Third opportunity
11273			Approximate
11274			Orbit Internet
11275			Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11276
11277			4-21-98 20:45/1:45 p.m. 254 Viking Lander 1 April 23
11278			4-22-98 08:23/1:23 a.m. 255 Viking Lander 2 April 24
11279			4-22-98 20:02/1:02 p.m. 256 Mars Pathfinder April 24
11280			4-23-98 19:18/12:18 p.m. 258 Cydonia April 24 (mid-a.m.)
11281
11282	root	1.387	%
11283	root	1.1	> >2. Der Menschheit ist durch Inzucht entstanden. Laut biologischem
11284	root	1.388	> >Wissen, unwahrscheinlich, da Mutation und Mißbildungen auftreten
11285			> >würden.
11286	root	1.1	>
11287			> Vermutung: Das ist auch aufgetreten. Siehe levitische "Gesetze" zur
11288			> "Behandlung" von "Aussatz" insb. im 3. "Mose". Die hatten schon Probleme.
11289			Sag mal, bei Dir piepts wohl nicht mehr richtig! Aussatz, heute besser
11290			unter dem Namen Lepra bekannt, ist keine Erbkrankheit. Es ist eine
11291			(heute heilbare) Infektionskrankheit, verursacht durch Bakterien.
11292			Also nichts von Inzucht, wie Du das in Deinem latenten Rassenwahn
11293			implizierst.
11294	root	1.387	%
11295	root	1.1	> You might please start up with reading more than one sentence - a skill
11296			> quite familiar in Europe, but as it seems not in the USA.
11297	root	1.387	%
11298	root	1.1	Yup. Instead of crashing Xservers, now you have crashing kernels.
11299			Big improvement.
11300	root	1.387	%
11301	root	1.1	-- "Hey look, this new card is for windows and only $xx!"
11302			-- "Yes, but it's braindead and will hurt your performance. Take that one
11303			over there. Besides, it's not an ope.."
11304			-- "Why that one?"
11305			-- "Because it's better, sinc.."
11306			-- "But I can do the same with this one, it's cheaper, and its for windows!"
11307	root	1.387	%
11308	root	1.1	In der Klinik, in der ich mal arbeiten musste, hatten wir einen echten
11309			Koenig Ludwig II und mindestens fuenf Stueck Jesus - sowas gibts halt,
11310			wenn Du verstehst, was ich meine.
11311	root	1.387	%
11312	root	1.1	> Hast Du mal einen Stein beobachtet, der eine Unzahl komplexer
11313			> Vorgaenge paresentiert, einschliesslich der Hervorbringung
11314			> etlicher Lebensformen?
11315
11316			Jepp. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "zahlreich".
11317
11318			> Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der sich mal eben
11319			> "verwandelt", und auf dem dann lauter Wesen rumkrabbeln,
11320			> die aus ihm selbst entsprungen sind?
11321
11322			Klar doch. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "lauter".
11323
11324			> Ueberspitzt: Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der
11325			> ploetzlich zum Lebewesen wird und Dich fragt, wer oder was
11326			> er eigentlich ist?
11327
11328	root	1.388	Tja, da hören die Übereinstimmungen auf. Ich dachte Du meinst
11329	root	1.1	Erwin Stein. Den kenne ich. Der hat zwei Kinder. Die krabbeln
11330	root	1.388	ab und zu auf ihm herum. Der ist aber nicht plötzlich zum Le-
11331	root	1.1	bewesen geworden, sondern den gibt es nun schon ein wenig
11332	root	1.388	länger. Und er hat mich auch noch nie gefragt, wer oder was
11333	root	1.1	er eigentlich ist. Zumindest nicht in einem Zustand, den man
11334	root	1.388	als "normal" bezeichnen könnte. So wird das anscheinend nix.
11335	root	1.1	Ciao
11336			Stefan
11337	root	1.387	%
11338	root	1.1	"These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After
11339			unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including
11340			all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer."
11341			(http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/pc99.htm)
11342	root	1.387	%
11343	root	1.1	Video cards have write-only registers. (of course that is bad design) Let's
11344			say that register 13 is write-only, as is common. It holds an index that
11345			determines what register 69 (also write-only) actually changes. If you write
11346			to register 13 while the accelerator is active, you lock the PCI bus. You
11347			can't determine if the accelerator is active without reading from register
11348			42, but you can't interpret the contents of that register correctly without
11349			knowing what the last accelerator command was. Reading from register 13 gets
11350			you some useless (unrelated) info and _also_ toggles the accelerator on and
11351			off.
11352	root	1.387	%
11353	root	1.1	Join the Army,
11354			Meet interesting people,
11355			Kill them.
11356	root	1.387	%
11357	root	1.1	> Wie entsteht Materie? Ich koennte mir vorstellen, dass Energie in Materie
11358			> umwandelbar ist.
11359
11360			E=m*c^2 (Schon mal gehoert?) (Schon mal verstanden??)
11361	root	1.387	%
11362	root	1.388	>nach der die Pygmäen geheime UFO-Basen in ausgehöhlten Baumstämmen
11363	root	1.1	>unterhalten (Vorsicht: das war ein Witz :-) ).
11364	root	1.387	%
11365	root	1.1	> (Bernhard Nahrgang) wrote:
11366			>
11367			> >> Logische Annahme: Die Erde waechst entweder kontinuierlich, oder periodisch
11368			> >> ruckartig.
11369			> >wie kann jemand mit dem IQ von 130 nur SO SELTEN BLOEDE sein??
11370			>
11371	root	1.388	> Norbert ist nicht selten blöde...
11372	root	1.1
11373			:-)
11374	root	1.387	%
11375	root	1.1	SAT 1 Teletext: Ein Asteroid mit einem Durchmesser von fast einem Kilometer
11376	root	1.388	rast mit großer Geschwindigkeit auf die Erde zu. US-Astronomen befürchten:
11377			"XF11" könnte im Jahr 2028 auf der Erde einschlagen. Die Folgen wären
11378	root	1.1	verheerend. "Der rasende Stein aus dem All ist eine Gefahr", warnt Jack G.
11379			Hills vom US-Kernforschungszentrum Los Alamos: "Wenn er die Erde trifft,
11380			wird er die Sprengkraft von 320.000 Megatonnen Dynamit haben." Das
11381			entspricht dem Zweimillionenfachen der Atombombe...
11382
11383			ARD/ZDF Teletext: ASTEROID MIT KURS AUF ERDE ENTDECKT Amerikanische
11384			Astronomen haben einen Asteroiden ausgemacht, der in 30 Jahren der Erde
11385	root	1.388	gefährlich nahekommen wird. Die Gefahr, daß der Asteroid einschlagen wird,
11386			sei gering, aber auch nicht völlig auszuschließen. Nach derzeitigen
11387	root	1.1	Berechnungen wird der Asteroid mit der Bezeichnung "1997 XF11" am 26.Oktober
11388	root	1.388	2028 unserem Planeten am nächsten kommen. "1997 XF11" hat etwa einen
11389			Durchmesser von 1,6 Kilometern. Erstmals käme ein Objekt dieser Größe der
11390			Erde so nahe, hieß es in dem Bericht der Internationalen Astronomischen
11391	root	1.1	Union.
11392
11393	root	1.388	RTL Teletext: Himmelskörper rast auf Erde zu Ein Asteroid wird im Jahr 2028
11394			der Erde gefährlich nahe kommen. Amerikanische Wissenschaftler haben die
11395	root	1.1	Chance eines Zusammenpralls auf eins zu tausend berechnet. Sollte der
11396	root	1.388	Asteroid, der einen Durchmesser von 1,8 Kilometern hat, aufprallen, könnte
11397			er eine gigantische Flutwelle auslösen, so die Forscher. Auch ein genaues
11398			Datum haben die Wissenschaftler schon errechnet: Von Europa aus wäre das
11399	root	1.1	Naturschauspiel am 26. Oktober 2028 zu beobachten.
11400	root	1.387	%
11401	root	1.1	* Linux Viruscan.....
11402			Windows 95 Found Remove it ? (Y/y)
11403	root	1.387	%
11404	root	1.1	>>Hmm, welche Behauptungen entsprechen denn deiner Meinung nach der
11405	root	1.388	>>Realität?
11406	root	1.1	>>
11407			>>Das es das FBI wirklich gibt?
11408	root	1.388	>>Das Scully frigide ist, und deshalb mit Mulder nichts anfangen möchte?
11409			>>Das Mulder homosexuell ist, und deshalb mit Scully nichts anfangen möchte?
11410	root	1.1	>>Das der CSM einen Vertrag mit Marlb*ro hat?
11411			>
11412			>Hinter diesen "Fragen" erkenne ich z.B. eine gut bekannte Strategie. Die
11413			>FBI-Frage ist bewusst absurd. Das Abgleiten ins Sexuelle hat ebenfalls
11414	root	1.387	%
11415	root	1.1	"'You're a Cirrus. You're crap. I'm an S3. I rule. Thank you and please drive through.'"
11416	root	1.387	%
11417	root	1.1	> How could you have perl take a set of numbers (1,2,3,4) and put them
11418			> into a random order???
11419			>
11420
11421			@array=qw(1 2 3 4);
11422			print "@array[1,3,2,0]\n";
11423
11424			I've checked this against other possible random orderings
11425			of these numbers, and this ordering is at least as random as
11426			any of the other possible ones. The benefit of this one being
11427			that it begins with the number 2, which is my favorite random
11428			number less than 42.
11429	root	1.387	%
11430	root	1.1	From what I am reading Win98 and NT5.0 will be getting rid of all that
11431			crap anyway. Seems that Microsoft has invented something called TCP/IP and
11432			another really revolutionary concept called DNS that eliminates the
11433			netbios crap too. All that arping from browsers is going to go away.
11434			I also hear rumors that they are on the verge of breakthrough discoveries
11435			called NFS, and LPD too. Given enough time and money, they might
11436			eventually invent Unix.
11437	root	1.387	%
11438	root	1.1	In Germany, where typeface design has always been a significant part of
11439			the cultural heritage, and where typefounding has remained an important
11440			business, there are more than one kind of copyright-like protections for
11441			typefaces. Certain long-standing industrial design protection laws have
11442			been used to protect typeface designs in litigation over royalties and
11443			plagiarisms. Further, there is a recent law, the so-called
11444			"Schriftzeichengesetz" enacted in 1981, that specifically protects
11445			typeface designs. New designs are registered, as is done with
11446			copyright in most countries. This law only protects new, original
11447			designs. It is available to non-German designers and firms. Therefore,
11448			some type firms and designers routinely copyright new designs in West
11449			Germany. This gives a degree of protection for products marketed in
11450			Germany. Since multinational corporations may find it cheaper to
11451			license a design for world-wide use rather than deal with a special case
11452			in one country, the German law does encourage licensing on a broader
11453			scale than would initially seem to be the case.
11454	root	1.387	%
11455	root	1.1	[linux processes vs. nt/solaris threads]
11456			Rob Pike pointed out that the solution to slow process creation is
11457			faster process creation, not another kernel abstraction.
11458	root	1.387	%
11459	root	1.1	Does anybody know how to communicate between a PC and a modem,
11460			using a Perl CGI script?
11461	root	1.387	%
11462	root	1.1	>I really don't know crap about PERL. How is it different from JAVA?
11463
11464			One tiny difference: Java can crash your browser. It happened to me last
11465			week.
11466	root	1.387	%
11467	root	1.1	Brieweb> I heard Randal Schwartz say he could write an entire httpd server in 90 lines
11468			Brieweb> of PERL.
11469			No, that's an http proxy server. A simple web server is much shorter.
11470			From "perldoc HTTP::Daemon"...
11471			[Randal Schwartz]
11472	root	1.387	%
11473	root	1.1	But the possibility of abuse may be a good reason for leaving
11474			capabilities out of other computer languages, it's not a good reason
11475			for leaving capabilities out of Perl.
11476			[Larry Wall in `Macros'. [[perl5-porters]]]
11477	root	1.387	%
11478	root	1.1	Yes: Java's main advantage over Perl is that it's hard to use for casual
11479			programmers, so keeps all but the most intrepid programmers away from it.
11480			It has no decent support for string processing, allowing you to spend
11481			hours at useless debugging. It has a very restrictive and static system
11482			to make sure you don't try anything interesting. It makes sure that you
11483			use objects, by golly, because James Gosling said so. It's easy for C++
11484			programmers to use, and hard for shell or BASIC programmers to use. It
11485			also only runs on a few systems, locking its customers into a a closed
11486			system and restricting their options.
11487			[Tom Christiansen in `Java Vs. Perl']
11488	root	1.387	%
11489	root	1.1	<Bill_Gates> Where do you want to go today?
11490			<Phase_5> Where do go tomorrow?
11491			<BlueFlux> Where were you yesterday?!?!
11492	root	1.387	%
11493	root	1.1	"It's not to control, but to protect the citizens of Singapore. In our
11494			society, you can state your views, but they have to be correct."
11495			Ernie Hai
11496			Coordinator of Singapore Government Internet Project
11497	root	1.387	%
11498	root	1.1	: I very much prefer a useful error message than a "it produced the wrong
11499			: results" report from the users.
11500
11501			if i got even "it produced the wrong results" from our users, i would
11502			be in 7th heaven. ours often mail us with such insightful requests as
11503			"can you tell me my email address?" no, sorry, that should be "CAN U
11504			TEL ME MY E MAIL ADRES DUDE?!!!?? HURRY!!!"
11505	root	1.387	%
11506	root	1.1	There are many intelligent species in the Universe.
11507			They are all owned by cats.
11508	root	1.387	%
11509	root	1.1	Why dignify your unsustainable, unjustifiable, unprovable feeble
11510			attempts at character assassination with anything resembling a reply?
11511			You only make yourself look foolish by mouthing off like that.
11512	root	1.387	%
11513	root	1.1	From: L & K Olson <kolson@mbnet.mb.ca>
11514			Subject: If they wrote error messages in haiku ...
11515
11516			Yesterday it worked
11517			Today it is not working
11518			Windows is like that
11519			- - -
11520			wind catches lily
11521			scatt'ring petals to the wind:
11522			segmentation fault
11523			- - -
11524			Three things are certain:
11525			Death, taxes, and lost data.
11526			Guess which has occurred.
11527			- - -
11528			A file that big?
11529			It might be very useful.
11530			But now it is gone.
11531			- - -
11532			Windows NT crashed.
11533			I am the Blue Screen of Death.
11534			No one hears your screams.
11535			- - -
11536			Errors have occurred.
11537			We won't tell you where or why.
11538			Lazy programmers.
11539			- - -
11540			Seeing my great fault
11541			Through darkening blue windows
11542			I begin again
11543			- - -
11544			The code was willing,
11545			It considered your request,
11546			But the chips were weak.
11547			- - -
11548			Printer not ready.
11549			Could be a fatal error.
11550			Have a pen handy?
11551			- - -
11552			Server's poor response
11553			Not quick enough for browser.
11554			Timed out, plum blossom.
11555			- - -
11556			Chaos reigns within.
11557			Reflect, repent, and reboot.
11558			Order shall return.
11559			- - -
11560			Login incorrect.
11561			Only perfect spellers may
11562			enter this system.
11563			- - -
11564			This site has been moved.
11565			We'd tell you where, but then we'd
11566			have to delete you.
11567			- - -
11568			ABORTED effort:
11569			Close all that you have.
11570			You ask way too much.
11571			- - -
11572			First snow, then silence.
11573			This thousand dollar screen dies
11574			so beautifully.
11575			- - -
11576			With searching comes loss
11577			and the presence of absence:
11578			"My Novel" not found.
11579			- - -
11580			The Tao that is seen
11581			Is not the true Tao, until
11582			You bring fresh toner.
11583			- - -
11584			The Web site you seek
11585			cannot be located but
11586			endless others exist
11587			- - -
11588			Stay the patient course
11589			Of little worth is your ire
11590			The network is down
11591			- - -
11592			A crash reduces
11593			your expensive computer
11594			to a simple stone.
11595			- - -
11596			There is a chasm
11597			of carbon and silicon
11598			the software can't bridge
11599			- - -
11600			To have no errors
11601			Would be life without meaning
11602			No struggle, no joy
11603			- - -
11604			You step in the stream,
11605			but the water has moved on.
11606			This page is not here.
11607			- - -
11608			No keyboard present
11609			Hit F1 to continue
11610			Zen engineering?
11611			- - -
11612			Hal, open the file
11613			Hal, open the damn file, Hal
11614			open it, please Hal
11615			- - -
11616			Out of memory.
11617			We wish to hold the whole sky,
11618			But we never will.
11619			- - -
11620			Having been erased,
11621			The document you're seeking
11622			Must now be retyped.
11623			- - -
11624			The ten thousand things
11625			How long do any persist?
11626			Netscape, too, has gone.
11627			- - -
11628			Rather than a beep
11629			Or a rude error message,
11630			These words: "File not found."
11631			- - -
11632			Serious error.
11633			All shortcuts have disappeared
11634			Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
11635	root	1.387	%
11636	root	1.1	"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way
11637			to factor large prime numbers." -- Bill Gates from "The Road Ahead," p. 265.
11638	root	1.387	%
11639	root	1.1	> What is the Windows equivalent of the first line used for
11640			> UNIX (#!/usr/local/bin/perl) that tells where the Perl interpreter is?
11641
11642			Windows hasn't gotten quite as far in functionality as, say, BSD Unix in the
11643			early 1980s.
11644	root	1.387	%
11645	root	1.1	> I have a chat script, that will work fine for a bit then after a while
11646			> the private messages will stop working. It might be because I changed
11647			> something, but chances are that isn't the case. I re-install a fresh
11648			> copy, paths are correct, and they still don't work
11649
11650			I think you are experiencing GOVERNMENT CONTROL. You see, everyone
11651			with a chat script is being scrutinised by the department of CHAT
11652			control. Whenever they see some message they don't like, they
11653			introduce some little goblin called feature-creep in your program. if
11654			you have lots of these little devils, your program migth acquire so
11655			many new features that it just stops working.
11656
11657			This also applies to Microsoft products.
11658
11659			> Does it make sense for certain features to just not work?! If you can
11660			> help, or have suggestions, get back to me, PLEASE:)
11661
11662			Yes, it makes perfect sense. Especially if they're features which
11663			really are bugs. And especially if they're 'private' messages. You
11664			know perfectly well that the government doesn't like private messages.
11665
11666			Hope this explains what's going on
11667			Martien Verbruggen
11668	root	1.387	%
11669	root	1.1	...code? If you're on a misconfigured NT server (is that redundant?), you...
11670	root	1.387	%
11671	root	1.1	X11R6.1-based free X server compiles, links and crashes under IRIX(TM).
11672	root	1.387	%
11673	root	1.1	-------------- please bite here ------------- bitte hier abbeissen ---------
11674	root	1.387	%
11675	root	1.1	"Frag mal, auf was fuer uptimes man kommt, wenn man Software-Entwicklung
11676			unter NT macht..." "Das koennen bis zu dreissig Minuten werden - in der
11677			Mittagspause." -- Andreas Bogk, Kai Fett, de.alt.sysadmin.recovery
11678	root	1.387	%
11679	root	1.1	> ++ A lot of posters here have .sigs that include perl one liners.
11680			> ++ Is there a safe way to run them, and be assured that they wont
11681			> ++ damage and/or erase files? (or e-mail off my shadow file)
11682			>
11683			> Just make sure you understand it ;)
11684
11685			I nominate Abigail for best response of the year with this one. Come to
11686			think of it, I nominate it for best response of next year, too.
11687	root	1.387	%
11688	root	1.1	Your moderator will be spending the next week on a beach on a small island
11689			where the phones don't work very well, so there won't be any comp.compilers
11690			until the 28th. Any messages you send in will wait here until I get back and
11691			should be posted on March 1st or 2nd.
11692	root	1.387	%
11693	root	1.1	But now, in comp.lang.perl.misc, you have a bunch of people who aren't
11694			even asking how to make the pieces fit together, but what the
11695			individual pieces are. ("How do I get my lego project to roll accross
11696			the table?" "You use one of those pieces that have the wheels
11697			attached.") Or questions that aren't about building at all. ("The
11698			motor stopped moving. How do I get it to start again?" "The batteries
11699			are probably dead. You can buy new batteries at any department or
11700			convienience store.")
11701	root	1.387	%
11702	root	1.1	: how do i make my perl script run?
11703			Get up at 91 minutes before dawn, clothe yourself in neon green body
11704	root	1.387	%
11705	root	1.1	for some reason Windoze users don't seem to expect docs to come with an archive
11706	root	1.424	>>> ToiLeTGoD
11707	root	1.1
11708			Well, well.. I always wondered who/what made that flush thingy work.
11709			Pretty cool name, dude. (not)
11710	root	1.387	%
11711	root	1.1	Ummm...create "comp.lang.perl.wizards", make it moderated and all posts,
11712			including xposts, go into /dev/null. Most FAQers won't have the Usenet
11713			background to understand that such groups are either a) a wasteland
11714			populated (briefly) by persons like themselves, or b) point to /dev/null.
11715	root	1.387	%
11716	root	1.1	Lazy people never bother to actually read the manual. Instead they (like
11717			kids) pick something with big, colorful buttons.
11718			-- Eugene Tyurin <gene@insti.physics.sunysb.edu>
11719	root	1.387	%
11720	root	1.1	The Average Person's Axioms of First Order Predicate Logic:
11721			(A => B) => (B => A)
11722			(There exists) x A(x) => (For all) x A(x)
11723			(A => C) & (B => C) => (A => B) - Warren Vonroeschlaub
11724	root	1.387	%
11725	root	1.1	cal 9 1752
11726	root	1.387	%
11727	root	1.1	Installing unix fixes the [VMS] bug.
11728			-Barry Shein
11729	root	1.387	%
11730	root	1.1	And this horrible free-for-all will be left to children wondering around
11731			by themselves in the dark because they refuse to turn on the light and
11732			read the manual.
11733	root	1.387	%
11734	root	1.1	"SPARC" is "CRAPS" backwards --Rob Pike
11735	root	1.387	%
11736	root	1.1	I increasingly begin to understand why some universities require
11737			that its compsci majors study the Euclid's Prime Number Theorem,
11738			the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, Cantor's Diagonalization Proof,
11739			Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem, and the ramifications of Halting Problem
11740			in everyday life. These may not be involved in daily programming, but
11741			it helps develop a rigorous mind. And it gives those who would progress
11742			from typist to word-processor devotee to HTML documenter to CGI scripter
11743			to distributed multithreaded operating systems design specialist cause
11744			for pause. You just can't do that without proper training.
11745	root	1.387	%
11746	root	1.1	comp.lang.perl.i'm-from-microsoft-so-won't-read-documentation
11747	root	1.387	%
11748	root	1.1	I suggest you install a newsserver, and keep a local spool. Anything else
11749			is too much work, and fairly silly. The Internet has catupulted even
11750			the Wintel victims past the days of BBS toys.
11751	root	1.387	%
11752	root	1.1	> Help help! Pls advise me thru email.
11753
11754			I advise you to buy a new keyboard; one that has all the keys you
11755			need.
11756	root	1.387	%
11757	root	1.1	Christian Fundamentalism: The doctrine that there is an absolutely
11758			powerful, infinitely knowledgeable, universe spanning entity that is
11759			deeply and personally concerned about my sex life.
11760	root	1.387	%
11761	root	1.1	I find the first particularly useful in destroying the miswrapped
11762			lines stemming from brain-damaged "it's just another word processor"
11763			newsreaders. You know,
11764			those postings that always seem to go to the edge of the line and then
11765			back
11766			again to the start, as this paragraph has. These are just too painful
11767			to read. Just kill them. It's not worth your time trying to figure
11768			out what they're saying.
11769	root	1.387	%
11770	root	1.1	It is most annoying to receive junk mail describing how to purchase 93
11771			million addresses, while knowing that yours is one of them.
11772	root	1.387	%
11773	root	1.1	I'm surprised Tom, how could it miss the "X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT;
11774			U)" header line? Personally, I find the attempted use of Netscape as a
11775			newsreader even worse then the attempted use of WinNT as an OS. :-)
11776
11777			But the combination.... sutters
11778	root	1.387	%
11779	root	1.1	Hm... my new killfile isn't detecting you're posting from Windows.
11780			Darn it.
11781	root	1.387	%
11782	root	1.1	At least he didn't post in all caps.
11783	root	1.387	%
11784	root	1.1	http://language.perl.com/CPAN-local/doc/FAQs/cgi/idiots-guide.html
11785	root	1.387	%
11786	root	1.1	I think the biggest problem with M.S.A. is that the scripts work for Matt, but
11787			the majority of people trying to use them are from the
11788			"Wintel/AOL/FrontPage/push-a-button/HTML-is-programming/no-programming-required"
11789			school of non-learning. It isn't a problem with the code, per se, but with those
11790			trying to use it.
11791	root	1.387	%
11792	root	1.1	"Linux can emulate an C64 on my AMDK6PR200 at full speed. Windows can't."
11793	root	1.387	%
11794	root	1.1	cdog wrote:
11795			>
11796			> Is this group active?
11797			No.
11798
11799			If you had spent half a second LOOKING at the group before posting, you
11800			probably could have come to that conclusion yourself.
11801
11802			On a personal note, I died 3 years, 8 days, 5 minutes, 16 seconds, and
11803			345 milliseconds ago, but who's counting.
11804	root	1.387	%
11805	root	1.1	"Security through obscurity is no security at all."
11806			-comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup posting
11807	root	1.387	%
11808	root	1.1	"Windows 95 will now attempt to blow chunks across your primary partition.
11809			Press any key to continue..."
11810	root	1.387	%
11811	root	1.1	NT 5.0 is the last nail in the Unix coffin. Interestingly, Unix
11812			isn't in the coffin... It's wondering what the heck is sealing
11813			itself into a wooden box 6 feet underground...
11814	root	1.387	%
11815	root	1.1	The Wall St Journal (1996-01-22, page 1) reported that Cuba is
11816			considering jumping across the International Date Line, just so that
11817			it's the first into the year 2000. So it's possible you'll have to
11818			adjust your travel plans.
11819	root	1.387	%
11820	root	1.388	"Wo kämen wir hin, wenn alle sagten, wo kämen wir hin, und niemand ginge
11821			hin, um einmal zu schauen, wohin man käme, wenn man ginge." -- Kurt Marti
11822	root	1.387	%
11823	root	1.1	The Takeuchi function is a popular benchmark of function calling due to its
11824			highly recursive nature. It's defined as:
11825
11826			tak x y z = z, if y >= x
11827			= tak (tak (x-1) y z) (tak (y - 1) z x) (tak (z - 1) x y), otherwise
11828
11829			For this benchmark, the function is invoked as:
11830
11831			tak 18 12 6
11832	root	1.387	%
11833	root	1.1	"Nobody will ever need more than 640k RAM!"
11834			-- Bill Gates
11835			"Windows 95 needs at least 8 MB RAM."
11836			-- Bill Gates
11837			"Nobody will ever need Windows 95."
11838			-- logical conclusion
11839	root	1.387	%
11840	root	1.1	Year Name James Bond Book
11841			- ---- -------------------------------- -------------- ----
11842			50's James Bond TV Series Barry Nelson
11843			1962 Dr. No Sean Connery 1958
11844			1963 From Russia With Love Sean Connery 1957
11845			1964 Goldfinger Sean Connery 1959
11846			1965 Thunderball Sean Connery 1961
11847			1967* Casino Royale David Niven 1954
11848			1967 You Only Live Twice Sean Connery 1964
11849			1969 On Her Majesty's Secret Service George Lazenby 1963
11850			1971 Diamonds Are Forever Sean Connery 1956
11851			1973 Live And Let Die Roger Moore 1955
11852			1974 The Man With The Golden Gun Roger Moore 1965
11853			1977 The Spy Who Loved Me Roger Moore 1962 (novelette)
11854			1979 Moonraker Roger Moore 1955
11855			1981 For Your Eyes Only Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
11856			1983 Octopussy Roger Moore 1965
11857			1983* Never Say Never Again Sean Connery
11858			1985 A View To A Kill Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
11859			1987 The Living Daylights Timothy Dalton 1965 (novelette)
11860			* -- Not a Broccoli production.
11861	root	1.387	%
11862	root	1.1	Windows NT: n.
11863			32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit
11864			operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written
11865			by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
11866	root	1.387	%
11867	root	1.388	Auf der Kiste läuft EHNIX, das ist ZUNIX kompatibel.