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1	root	1.446	Big congratulations to Acer, who used 55555555-5555-5555-5555-555555555555
2			for this in one of their db entries. Not only did they win the random
3			number generator lottery to get that, but also experienced a minimum
4			of 3 single bit errors, since the closest valid GUID to that is
5			55555555-5555-4555-9555-555555555555
6
7			[https://blog.uncooperative.org/blog/2014/10/23/uefi-security-databases/]
8			%
9	root	1.445	Contrary to what Carrier says, it is not clear to me that Amy Frank or
10			anyone else accused him of sexual assault. Carrier’s lawsuit makes
11			the tenuous argument that Amy Frank implied sexual assault by using the
12			hashtag #sexualassault.
13
14			[https://freethoughtblogs.com/atrivialknot/2017/01/04/i-liked-richard-carrier-past-tense/]
15			%
16	root	1.444	From: Linus Torvalds
17
18			And yes, a large part of this may be that I no longer feel like I can
19			trust "init" to do the sane thing. You all presumably know why.
20
21			[https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/7/6/577]
22			%
23			> How is the old way a problem?
24
25			That's systemd in a nutshell (and pulseaudio too). Replace well-known
26			things that are not broken with something obscure and clunky that thinks
27			it's smarter than you.
28
29			[https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9170111&cid=52207557]
30			%
31	root	1.443	Systemd is a cancer and it will keep spreading until the host is
32			dead. Just like cancer it's not malicious, it sincerely believes it knows
33			better than the healthy cells it's infecting, but that doesn't make it
34			less lethal.
35
36			[https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9552479&cid=52745591]
37			%
38	root	1.442	From: Richard Stallman
39
40			[...]
41
42			> then that sounds like a layering violation.
43
44			The layering authority has no jurisdiction over GNU.
45			If this solution works, and nobody proposes a better one,
46			we won't let "layering" get in the way.
47			%
48	root	1.441	"Teyrnas Unedig Prydain Fawr a Gogledd Iwerddon" shortened to Teyrnas
49			"Unedig" or "Y Deyrnas Unedig" abbreviated "DU", or Rìoghachd Aonaichte
50			"Bhreatainn is Èireann a Tuath" shortened to Rìoghachd Aonaichte" are
51			"also now legal names for the UK.
52
53			[Brian Inglis in 774ac519-ceb1-7c04-d2b5-2f2ed851cb61@SystematicSw.ab.ca]
54			%
55			From: Russ Allbery
56			To: tz@iana.org
57			Message-ID: <87h97n58bp.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>
58
59			> Companies are unlikely to change their processes unless changes break
60			> existing processes (like the version change) or changes are documented
61			> in an RFC, which can be presented to SOx auditors and their ilk, to
62			> document and justify why they spent money and changed a process, along
63			> with the documentation on change impact including budget,
64			> authorizations, and the dozens of other side efforts of production
65			> changes, summarized above by DG as "That doesn’t work for everyone."
66
67			A bit of a digression, but the way companies treat free software projects
68			and maintainers is a pet peeve of mine.
69
70			It should be obvious that the only people a company can expect to follow
71			any of those rules are people the company is paying or otherwise has a
72			contractual relationship with that requires following those rules.
73			Otherwise, the company should be prepared to pay one of their employees to
74			jump through those hoops if they want those hoops jumped through.
75
76			It's standard practice for companies who depend heavily on a free software
77			project to have an internal maintainer or advocate for that free software
78			project who will translate whatever the public maintainer does into the
79			form that the company needs to manage it internally, including maintaining
80			private branches as needed, pulling up unreleased patches as needed, and
81			adjusting for upstream changes that don't match the needs of the company
82			(or clearly advocating for compromises or modifications that work for the
83			entire community). This is a cost of doing business. My employer
84			certainly does this for free software we use. It's fairly normal.
85
86			Some companies don't want to spend that money, and try to do it on the
87			cheap by not having that person or the mechanisms for importing free
88			software properly. A few of them then complain at the free software
89			maintainer when they run into problems. But those complaints should not
90			carry any more weight than the complaints of any other user, and should be
91			weighed against the work style, goals, and available time of the free
92			software maintainer. After all, the actor in this situation that has (by
93			far) the most resources and hence the most ability to adopt to changes,
94			whether they want to or not, is the company, not the free software
95			maintainer.
96			%
97	root	1.440	[About the Unicode CLDR (Common Locale Data Repository) project, specifically, timezone names]
98
99			They also seem to think that abbreviations should be only used locally,
100			such as "BST" only being used by British English. One would think that if
101			an American was talking about DST in the UK they would also use the term
102			"BST", but no:
103			http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8498
104			%
105			To: Time zone mailing list <tz@iana.org>
106			Subject: Re: [tz] Request regarding IANA update for Novosibirsk Time Zone
107
108			Shruthi Venkataramanan -X (shruthve - WIPRO LIMITED at Cisco) wrote:
109			> When can we expect the updated version
110
111			About three weeks ago.
112			%
113	root	1.439	[...] trying to make digital files uncopyable is like trying to make water
114			not wet. -- Bruce Schneier
115			%
116			[...] in order to be a good Christian one must first be a great hypocrite.
117
118			[http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.de/2013/06/the-bible-is-nothing-but-hearsay.html]
119			%
120	root	1.438	Know that you suck, you suck so much that you suck the future you wich
121			was able to go back in time to suck you from the past. You are an
122			neverending paradoxial loop of suckage. Now suck the fuck off.
123
124			[http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/vats-vs-rtwp.23266/page-2]
125			%
126			From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
127
128			Arthur David Olson <arthurdavidolson@gmail.com> writes:
129
130			> From The Economist: "Why time may be running out for the leap second"
131			[http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/11/economist-explains-4]
132
133			\| The first is simple, ancient and intuitive, and based on the rotation of
134			\| the Earth, under which each complete rotation (or, equivalently, each of
135			\| the Sun's apparent trips through the sky) counts as one day.
136
137			Of course, these are actually not equivalent; they're different by a
138			full day per year.
139			%
140	root	1.437	Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir
141			de la faire plus courte. -- Blaise Pascal, Provincial Letters : Letter XVI.
142			[I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time.]
143			%
144			File names are infinite in length where infinity is set to 255 characters.
145			-- Peter Collinson, "The Unix File System"
146			%
147			Over the past 20 years - its never been a question of the "perfect
148			storage media vendor" - its been a question of "who has screwed
149			me - lately?".
150			-- JSS, former Amiga HW Engineer, Rework tech of 400,000 defective
151			Seagate HDD's, Class of '94.
152
153			[http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1095235&cid=26492885]
154			%
155			I also proposed making malloc(0) perfectly fine, since zero is a perfectly
156			fine value. I also, in the same letter, proposed making zero-sized
157			arrays legal, mostly so you could do the extend-the-struct trick for a
158			variable-sized array as the last field of the struct.
159
160			I got two letters back as answer to my one. #1: Malloc(0) shouldn't work
161			because zero-sized arrays don't work. #2: Zero-sized arrays shouldn't work
162			because malloc(0) doesn't work. Well played, ANSI C committee, and may
163			your lives be a living hell.
164
165			[Rob Pike in https://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=4142#c2]
166			%
167	root	1.436	Using a screwdriver was not a normal part of the experimental protocol.
168			[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Slotin#Criticality_accident]
169			%
170			Newbie: Hi. I've been using Lisp for about half a year now, programming
171			for three years. I discovered this group and wondered if you could help me
172			out with a problem I'm having?
173
174			Smug: Hi! Always glad to have new blood. Sure thing, just ask.
175
176			Snide: Heya New! You bet, ask anything and we'll try to help.
177
178			Newbie: Okay, I'm trying to filter a list, something like Perl's grep. I
179			want to set up a predicate and have the new list be only those elements
180			from the old list that satisfy it. I know there's some standard idiom for
181			doing this, I just can't find it anywhere...
182
183			Smug: Perl's grep was inspired by Lisp's higher-order functions, you know. :)
184
185			Newbie: Oh, cool. :)
186
187			Smug: But it's inferior since it has balky syntax.
188
189			Snide: You can do it with (mapcan (lambda (item) (when (predicate item) (list item))) list).
190			[http://c2.com/]
191			%
192			Unfortunately a Russian spy stole the last meg of a LISP program for
193			controlling our nuclear defense systems. Fortunately, it was all
194			right-parenthesis.
195			[http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhyWeHateLisp]
196			%
197			Always wanted to travel back in time to try fighting a younger version of
198			yourself?
199			Software development is the career for you!
200
201			[https://twitter.com/Loh/status/411282297816498176]
202			%
203	root	1.435	[...] undisguised clarity is easily mistaken for arrogance.
204			-- Richard Dawkins
205			%
206			There are many choices of elliptic-curve signature systems. The standard
207			choice, ECDSA, is reasonable if you don't care about simplicity, speed,
208			and security.
209
210			[http://blog.cr.yp.to/20140323-ecdsa.html]
211			%
212			[In answer to: "Is the NSA aware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS? The RSA?"]
213
214			We are unaware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS when properly implemented and
215			used for the purposes for which they both are designed.
216			-— National Security Agency, June 1992
217			%
218			In the past decade there have been many attacks against TLS. With the
219			exception of CRIME, not one of them relied on any results that were not
220			known at the time the TLS 1.0 standard was being written. [...] Every time
221			this standards group has had a choice to make regarding cryptography,
222			they have made the wrong one. [...] Were TLS to be submitted by an
223			undergraduate as a solution to this problem it would earn an F.
224
225			[http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg10598.html]
226			%
227			tiny hsv2rgb
228			float3 h2r(float h,float s,float v){return lerp(saturate((abs(frac(h+float3(1,2,3)/3)6-3)-1)),1,s)v;}
229
230			vec3 hsv(float h,float s,float v) {
231			return mix(vec3(1.),clamp((abs(fract(h+vec3(3.,2.,1.)/3.)6.-3.)-1.),0.,1.),s)v;
232			}
233			%
234			Haha, no FPS counter but rather a "Next frame"-button :)
235			Only Java makes it possible!
236
237			[http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=7920&page=1]
238			%
239			'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and
240			generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is
241			extremely poettering''
242			%
243			"There is no use in arguing with a man who can multiply anything by the square root of minus 1."
244			-- Pirates of Venus, Edgar Rice Burroughs
245			%
246			"I drank what?!"
247			-- Socrates
248			%
249			It would be bad for OpenPGP to have a standard that could not be
250			implemented on light bulbs (I used to say cell phones, but they're now
251			400MHz devices), forcing the light bulb people to use something else.
252
253			Jon Callas in
254			http://www.imc.org/ietf-openpgp/mail-archive/msg06396.html
255			%
256			"If you have four groups working on a compiler, you'll get a 4-pass compiler."
257			-- Conway's Law
258			%
259			The mac version doesn't work on older versions of the operating system
260			(this is part of Apple's planned obsolescence hellhole; the latest version
261			of xcode won't build for older systems but I'm forced to update to it
262			because the older ones won't build for newer systems and I've been forced
263			to update the operating system on my ipad so UGH; basically I have to
264			have multiple xcode versions installed and I really can't be bothered
265			untangling this mess right now so).
266
267			[http://mightyvision.blogspot.de/2013/03/7drl-success-86856527.html]
268			%
269			Option "NoPM" "boolean"
270			Disables something to do with power management events. Default: PM
271			enabled on platforms that support it.
272			[xorg.conf(5)]
273			%
274			> Yes, this would be something _in addition_ to what the FSF does.
275			> Grant money could be used to hire one or two fresh graduates that
276			> would work on code.
277
278			Graduates in which discipline? Computer science? This sounds to me
279			like the idea to hire one or two fresh graduates in English literature
280			and language with the idea to let them start writing novels.
281			[87liaj740v.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org]
282			%
283	root	1.434	[and that's why I don't support gentoo anymore]
284			As with Francois, I used to use ccache for recompiling packages that
285			hadn’t finished the first time — but for a different reason. At
286			the time, I had overrated memory, and a BIOS without a memory clock
287			option. The system was generally fine, but once in awhile would scramble
288			a memory transfer enough to cause a crash. CCache was a LOT of help in
289			that instance, as it’s what allowed me to even install Gentoo at all —
290			there’s no way I could have gotten thru gcc, (monolitic) X, glibc, or
291			the then unsplit KDE compiles, without it.
292			%
293			Kay, you are so full of sh*t that it's not funny. You're refusing to
294			acknowledge your bugs, you refuse to fix them even when a patch is
295			sent to you, and then you make excuses for the fact that we have to
296			work around your bugs, and say that we should have done so from the
297			very beginning.
298			[Linus in http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1369384]
299			%
300			systemd creates user session information in
301			/run/user/$user . I brought up with lennart the fact that this would
302			only permit one session per user. He rejected out of hand the fact
303			that more than one session would ever be needed, because Gnome only
304			allowed one session per user.
305			[http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/04/msg00751.html]
306			%
307	root	1.433	> Mailman archives! IIRC Heiko mentioned that there are more disputes
308			> about Lennart Poettering and his software on ALL mailing lists, than
309			> about anything else.
310			>
311			> Why is it like that?
312
313			Probably because he has all the arrogance of DJB but none of the skill.
314
315			[http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/44574]
316			%
317			[from a discussion about GNOME 3 "branding" mentality]
318
319			>> However, there are a number of serious problems:
320			>>
321			>> 1. Extensions break with every release. As Paolo said earlier, "This is
322			>> simply the result of not (yet) having a defined extension API." Yet this is
323			>> also part of the design: extensions specify versions of gnome-shell they
324			>> work with, so are trivially broken by new versions even if they might work.
325			>
326			> I don't think you understand well why this was designed this way.
327
328			That's the sort of thing people say to the judge of a serial killer.
329			The reasons don't matter for calling the results terrible.
330			%
331			(partial) Beaufort Table
332			Name # km/h (min) m/s (min)
333			Calm 0 0 0
334			Light Air 1 1.1 0.3
335			Light Breeze 2 5.6 1.6
336			Gentle Breeze 3 12 3.4
337			Moderate Breeze 4 20 5.5
338			Fresh Breeze 5 29 8
339			Strong Breeze 6 39 10.8
340			Moderate Gale 7 50 13.9
341			Fresh Gale 8 62 17.2
342			Strong Gale 9 75 20.8
343			%
344			"I have an open mind (I did consider voting liberal democrat once)."
345			- random imdb forum quote excerpt
346			%
347			"Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure
348			sign of a diseased mind." [Terry Pratchett]
349			%
350			The butcher who kills the baby to see how it comes apart did choose his
351			profession because of his sensitive soul. He chose it because death and
352			suffering, blood and gore, appeal to him. Dismembering the baby was always
353			on the cards.
354			%
355			[random comment from amule sources]
356			// trust noone ;-)
357			// lol, useless comment but made me lmao
358			// wtf you guys are weird.
359			%
360	root	1.432	Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid.
361			- Kin Hubbard
362			%
363			[random .sig]
364			I'm a muslim.
365
366			No I won't email you a bomb if you tick me off, but only because I don't know how to.
367			%
368			[...] don't do a double-take if you cuss in front of a woman. If she's read any
369			of the kernel code (notably arch/sparc/), she's heard of the word "fuck"
370			before.
371
372			[Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO]
373			%
374			<imho>
375
376			BASIC - fun! (For small programs at least.)
377			Smalltalk - fun! (Until you have to interact with anything else.)
378			Lisp - fun! (Until your eyeballs fall out from looking at too many parentheses.)
379			Arduino sketches - fun! (As long as they fit on one page.)
380
381			ObjC - sort of fun...once you understand 200 Cocoa classes.
382			Java - public static void not fun.
383			C++ - definitely not fun. STL seems like it should be fun but it isn't.
384			C - usually not fun.
385
386			What about modern scripting languages?
387
388			JavaScript - sort of fun! Until you have to deal with the DOM or various not-fun frameworks.
389			Ruby - fun! Until you try to do something with Rails.
390			Python - fun! Until you try to write a GUI app.
391
392			</imho>
393
394			[http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/2/]
395			%
396			"Die deutschen Zensoren------------------- --------------------------
397			Dummköpfe-------- -------------------------------------------"
398			%
399
400			* GFX_IS_DISPLAY_MODE_SUPPORTED
401			*
402			* This routine sets the specified display mode.
403
404			n = n%2 ? n : ++n;
405			[plan9, /sys/src/cmd/eqn/paren.c]
406			%
407			# The user is always right.
408			if test "${PATH_SEPARATOR+set}" != set; then
409			[autoconf]
410			%
411			from linux-2.6.37/fs/fcntl.c:
412
413			/*
414			* We need to detect attempts to do dup2() over allocated but still
415			* not finished descriptor. NB: OpenBSD avoids that at the price of
416			* extra work in their equivalent of fget() - they insert struct
417			* file immediately after grabbing descriptor, mark it larval if
418			* more work (e.g. actual opening) is needed and make sure that
419			* fget() treats larval files as absent. Potentially interesting,
420			* but while extra work in fget() is trivial, locking implications
421			* and amount of surgery on open()-related paths in VFS are not.
422			* FreeBSD fails with -EBADF in the same situation, NetBSD "solution"
423			* deadlocks in rather amusing ways, AFAICS. All of that is out of
424			* scope of POSIX or SUS, since neither considers shared descriptor
425			* tables and this condition does not arise without those.
426			*/
427			%
428			Taken straight out of lilo... This way of intermixing case with if (0)
429			was new to me:
430
431			switch(c)
432			{
433			case 'x': base=16; type \|= 4; if(0) {
434			case 'o': base= 8; type \|= 4; } if(0) {
435			case 'u': base=10; type \|= 4; } if(0) {
436			case 'd': base=-10; }
437			switch(type)
438			{
439			case 0: val=va_arg(ap, short); break;
440			case 1: val=va_arg(ap, int); break;
441			case 2: val=va_arg(ap, long); break;
442			case 4: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned short); break;
443			case 5: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned int); break;
444			case 6: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned long); break;
445			default:val=0; break;
446			}
447			cp = __numout(val,base);
448			if(0) {
449			case 's':
450			cp=va_arg(ap, char *);
451			}
452			%
453			Also, it is not true that UTC-1 is THE civilian time scale. While it
454			is certainly one, physical seconds are as enshrined in law as UTC
455			timestamps. Try arguing that you weren't caught speeding at midnight
456			at the end of the year because the calculation should have used an
457			extra second and see how far you get :-)
458			[Nick Maclaren, in <8ta60d$aq6$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>]
459			%
460			> > Actually it's not fully backward compatible. As I was just reminded, the
461			> > libc `sync' function, which is what the fileutils sync uses (sync is in
462			> > fileutils, not sh-utils), is backward-compatible and thus not synchronous
463			> > (it passes a zero wait flag in file_syncfs).
464			>
465			> Hmm. Hurd sync should use the libc sync function too; it should not
466			> set the wait flag. If it does, that's a bug.
467
468			It must be a confusing feature, because the code was written by the
469			infamous Michael I. Bushnell (may he rest in peace), who did not write bugs.
470
471			[from a random discussion about hurd, 199901032206.RAA27962@baalperazim.frob.com]
472			%
473			It is immediately apparent from these figures that moving-arm disks
474			should never be used, neither for paging applications nor for any other
475			heavy-traffic auxiliary memory applications.
476
477			Peter J. Denning -- Virtual Memory (1970)
478
479			http://portal.acm.org/ft_gateway.cfm?id=356573&type=pdf&coll=portal&dl=ACM&CFID=15151515&CFTOKEN=6184618
480			%
481			(i was impatient to bikeshed with diego on code indenting... btw this
482			whole indentation rules/enforcement should gone, it's nonsense, i dont
483			know any coder who uses consistent indentation over all his code... only
484			beginner programmers do, sometimes. if anyone wants to read the code in
485			nice indentation, he can anytime run a code formatter with his favourite
486			settings)
487
488			http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2011-January/104674.html
489			%
490			How do I deal with memory leaks?
491
492			By writing code that doesn't have any. [...]
493
494			[From Bjarne Stroustrup's C++ Style and Technique FAQ]
495			%
496			This kind of arguments doesn't really make sense for Fedora. We should
497			ship the best implementation, not the most "tried and true" one.
498
499			http://www.devheads.net/linux/fedora/development/libjpeg-f14.htm
500			%
501			The situation in the US: If you do anything before 2067 to preserve the
502			recording on a wax-cylinder from 1895, the terrorists win. Do you really
503			hate hard-working American families that much? Thank God Senator Orrin
504			Hatch and the RIAA love America's children more than you do.
505
506			The situation in Europe: Sound recordings up to 1960 are already in the
507			public domain. The terrorists have won. Our only hope of restoring the
508			justice of eternal and infinite copyright (and therefore saving our own
509			children's lives!) lies in the selfless efforts of the likes of Bono and
510			Cliff Richard, as they cry all the way to the bank about artists not being
511			rewarded for their creativity.
512
513			Let's hope that by the time you finish reading this sentence, copyright
514			will have been extended another 99 years... you know, to justly compensate
515			that bloke sitting by a mic in 1895. If he'd thought that in 2066
516			librarians would be able to copy his recording without his permission, he
517			would never have made it in the first place.
518
519			http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52573
520			%
521			"I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in
522			future understand things" -- Jörg Schilling
523			%
524			Nobody has bought freaking 160GB of music from the iTunes store. I figured
525			it out once, conservatively it was like $53,000 of music. And yet somehow
526			Apple has managed to sell tens of millions of iPods with up to 160GB
527			capacity, and even the smaller iPods would cost many thousands of dollars
528			to fill from the iTunes store. The iPod was worthwhile because of piracy.
529
530			http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/09/intels-walled-garden-plan-to-put-av-vendors-out-of-business.ars?comments=1#comment-20806800
531			%
532			"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
533			Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
534			- Mohandas Gandhi
535			%
536			"And so I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
537			the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the
538			handiwork of the Lord."
539			- Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" Vol. I, chapter 2, Murphy Ed. (p. 46)
540			%
541			Scientific Scrutiny and Disclosure
542
543			I was wondering how anyone possibly could conclude from this exchange that
544			Lenski was hiding something. I came to the conclusion that some people
545			must not understand how scientific scrutiny works. I wrote a guide.
546
547			Scientific scrutiny works like this:
548			Scientist A publishes results.
549
550			Scientist B: A, I tried duplicating your experiment, but parameters x, y,
551			and z that I need were not in your article. I need you to disclose to me
552			x, y, and z that you used at the time. What are they?
553
554			A: x, y, and z are such and such.
555			B: Using x, y, and z, my result doesn't agree with yours at all. Are you
556			sure you did the procedures that you claimed?
557			A: ...
558			B: You fraud!
559
560			Scientific scrutiny does not work like this:
561
562			A publishes results.
563
564			B: I have Generic Skepticism toward your article. Under code viii of the
565			Publication Criteria, I demand that you give me all of your data!
566			A: ... ok...? It seems that everything you would need is already in the
567			article. Did you have something specific in mind?
568			B: A has refused to attach all data he has ever used for the
569			experiment. He is withholding information and thus hiding something.
570
571			-- Carafe 01:42, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
572			[http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservapedia:Lenski_affair_talk_1]
573			%
574			[regarding sites requesting visitors to allow advertisements and not block
575			them because they need the money to operate]
576
577			"The readers are not the customer. The customer is the advertiser, and the
578			readers are the product which that website promises to deliver. But the
579			readers, being the product and not the customer, have no obligation to the
580			site or its bottom line."
581			%
582			"..but a short time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of
583			the Jewish religion before his principles were departed from by those
584			who professed to be his special servants, & perverted into an engine for
585			enslaving mankind, and aggrandizing their oppressors in church & state:
586			that the purest system of morals ever before preached to man has been
587			adulterated & sophisticated, by artificial constructions, into a mere
588			contrivance to filch wealth & power to themselves, that rational men not
589			being able to swallow their impious heresies, in order to force them down
590			their throats, they raise the hue & cry of infidelity, while themselves
591			are the greatest obstacles to the advancement of the real doctrines of
592			Jesus, and do in fact constitute the real Anti-Christ."
593			– Thomas Jefferson to William Baldwin, 19 January 1810 (draft – never sent)
594			%
595			Ignorance is the state of not having the data.
596
597			Idiocy is the state of having the data, but not being able to process it.
598
599			Willful ignorance is the state of censoring out all data you don’t want to hear.
600			%
601			["only those parts in the bible I like are authentic"]
602
603			>>>> but doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support slavery, genocide,
604			>>>> and the beating of children?
605			>>>
606			>>> Subjugation of women...
607			>>
608			>> "doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support ..." Only for bible
609			>> literalists and those who ignore what Jesus himself taught. By all
610			>> means call out any religious person who is acting immorally but try to
611			>> understand that the rest of us who are trying to follow the Way as best
612			>> as we can don't usually have the clout to wrestle the Falwells and the
613			>> Robertsons and their ilk to the ground. If we can agree on that, then,
614			>> shake partner.
615			>
616			> Ever read Matthew 5:31-32? Jesus said it and taught it.
617			>
618			> He says my wife is an adultress since she divorced her 1st husband all
619			> on account of her not taking his punches and kicks with good-natured
620			> humor. That "pearl of wisdom" also says that I'm an adulterer for
621			> choosing to spend the rest of my life with her.
622			>
623
624			As written, it seems pretty clear. Until you remember the book of matthew
625			was written decades after Jesus's death based on memories and oral
626			traditions, not to mention translation inaccuracies and ulterior motives
627			of the writers. No one really knows what Jesus really said or what he
628			really meant. It could all be wildly inacurrate. I think the fault is in
629			those who would use those words to justify their shabby treatment of you
630			and your wife.
631			%
632			Atheists care about religion for the same reason other people care about
633			cancer. If you aren't careful, it will kill you, and if you are, it could
634			still kill you. - arestheblue
635			%
636			Once upon a time there was the CAT working group whose name was an
637			abbreviation for "Common Authentication Technology". It produced IETF
638			specifications for GSS-API.
639
640			It was succeeded by the kitten working group, which has been working on
641			the next-generation GSS-API specifications.
642
643			There is now a proposal for a MOGGIES working group, which will work on
644			Mechanisms Of Generating Generically Interoperable & Effective Security.
645
646			[http://fanf.livejournal.com/?style=mine]
647			%
648			[from the minix 3 users guide]
649
650			ELLE is a simple and clear text editor (once you've figured out the key commands).
651			%
652			[Tips how to deal with complaints when running TOR exit nodes]
653
654			During the conversation make sure you explain a few points:
655			[...]
656			You are not insane. You may be insane, but we don't want the
657			complaintant to guess this is true.
658			%
659			"One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code."
660			- Ken Thompson.
661			%
662			http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-01-16-50-Math-Project-released.html
663
664			"Scientific calculations are becoming a reality in Syllable"
665
666			Dunning-Kruger at its best - the tool that "carries Syllable to
667			universities" can calculate sine and cosine values of integer inputs...
668			source code excerpt:
669
670			int sn()
671			{
672			char pwr;
673
674			int input1 = 0;
675			double output1 = 0;
676
677			system("clear");
678			cout<<"This is the Sin() calculator, please enter a number"<<endl;
679			cin>>input1;
680			output1 = (sin(input1));
681			cout<<"Sin() of"<< input1<<" is: "<<output1<<endl;
682			cout<<"Please press 'a' for recalculate or 'm' to return to main menu"<<endl;
683			cin>>pwr;
684			if(pwr == 'a')
685			sq();
686			if(pwr == 'm')
687			system("pause");
688
689			}
690			%
691			It allows a web browser and a web server to have a persistent, two-way
692			full-duplex connection using just one TCP connection.
693
694			[mind-boggling, they provide TCP features with just TCP!!!11]
695
696			http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-02-22-16-WebSockets-for-Cheyenne-web-server.html
697			%
698			From the "my window manager is boiling bullshit, so you have to fix your
699			app for me" department:
700
701			From: Evan LeCompte
702
703			Myself and many other members of the Archlinux community (and anyone using
704			Linux with a tiling window manager for that matter) humbly beg you (the
705			developers) for a single-windowed version of GIMP.
706			%
707			"I will give you credit for having balls. In spite of your comments being
708			a PR ploy based on biased views, you consistently imply that we're just
709			indulging in a PR ploy based on biased views."
710
711			http://tamino.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/old-news/
712			%
713			"We do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone ...
714			Folks who want porn can buy an Android phone"
715			– Steve Jobs[47]
716
717			"We can’t adapt European magazines to the standards of Utah."
718			– Mathias Müller von Blumencron (editor of Der Spiegel, warning that
719			the news magazine would not alter its content for the App Store)
720			%
721			The naked truth of it is, I have no shirt.
722			-- William Shakespeare, "Love's Labour's Lost"
723			%
724			Subject: [Gimp-user] Completely off every imaginable topic;)
725			From: Patrick Horgan
726			Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:13:38 -0800
727			To: GIMP Users <gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU>
728
729			Have you ever noticed that people's progress in using, supporting,
730			writing bug reports for, and sometimes even developing for, writing
731			documentation for, or translating for open source software is paralleled
732			by their progress from top-posting to bottom posting to interlinear
733			posting, to intelligent elision with interlinear posting? I see it on
734			the gimp, and on other lists all the time.
735
736			[...]
737			%
738	root	1.431	"Logic has made me hated among men"
739			— Peter Abelard
740			%
741			A man said to the universe:
742			"Sir I exist!"
743			"However," replied the universe,
744			"The fact has not created in me
745	root	1.432	A sense of obligation."
746			- Steven Crane
747	root	1.431	%
748			He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool; avoid him.
749
750			He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a student; teach him.
751
752			He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep; wake him.
753
754			He who knows and knows that he knows is a wise man; follow him.
755
756			– Sanskrit Saying
757			%
758			[anonymised discussion]
759			AGW-Denialist: ... blabla ... Karl Hopper ... blabla ... falsification ...
760			Scientist: Karl Hopper, eh? You're like the energizer bunny of wrong.
761			%
762			[http://www.opengl.org/registry/specs/NV/render_texture_rectangle.txt]
763
764	root	1.432	Additions to the WGL Specification
765	root	1.431
766			First, close your eyes and pretend that a WGL specification actually
767			existed. Maybe if we all concentrate hard enough, one will magically
768			appear.
769			%
770			"All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust,
771			sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others."
772			- Douglas Adams
773			%
774			I like how whether a German is a "skinhead" or a "pussy", he's still considered a typical German.
775			[http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=21884]
776			%
777			“A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will
778			lose both, and deserve neither” -- Thomas Jefferson
779			%
780			"This is a further proof of the skill of astronomers
781			in fitting a straight line to a circle!"
782			- footnote in "OUR BEST FRIEND, THE COMA CLUSTER"
783			http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Biviano/Biviano_contents.html
784			%
785			Am Grunde eines Problems sitzt immer ein Deutscher (Voltaire)
786			%
787			"I'm Prime Minister of Canada, I live here and I'm going to take a leak."
788			- Lester Pearson in 1967, during a meeting between himself and
789			President Lyndon Johnson, whose Secret Service detail had taken over
790			Pearson's cottage retreat. At one point, a Johnson guard asked
791			Pearson, "Who are you and where are you going?"
792			%
793			It's a known fact that not a single competent, experienced, skilled
794			programmer in the world uses an IDE, nor has used one at any point in his
795			or her career.
796			[http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl/?node_id=636318]
797			%
798			It was stated that WIMPs and MACHOs were in the category of particle known
799			as "Fabricated Ad hoc Inventions Repeatedly Invoked in Efforts to Defend
800			Untenable Scientific Theories" (FAIRIE DUST).
801			%
802			I LOVE YOU
803			["authentication succeeded" protocol token used by cvs pserver]
804			%
805			General consensus seems to be 2.6.18 is where the manure intersected with
806			the air impeller.
807
808			Alan Cox
809			%
810			"I'm being elitist: awesome 3 is designed for power users
811			with a minimum computer science background."
812			%
813			From: Eric Sosman
814			Newsgroups: comp.std.c
815			Subject: Re: about graphics
816
817			prince wrote:
818			> how to get command over graphics in c language?
819
820			#include <stdio.h>
821			int main(void) {
822			puts("graphics\rcommand");
823			return 0;
824			}
825			%
826			I tried the Vista speech recognition by running the tutorial. I was
827			amazed, it was awesome, recognised every word I said. Then I said the
828			wrong word ... and it typed the right one. It was actually just
829			detecting a sound and printing the expected word! -- pbhj on /.
830			%
831			[Bodo Moeller in http://groups.google.com/group/sci.crypt/msg/e79e65ed9077d0ba]
832
833			While the 2^128 step search talks a very long time indeed,
834			it still is a constant-time attack.
835			%
836			"Verleumdung mußt Du frech betreiben, es wird schon etwas hängenbleiben!"
837			-- Karl Joseph Simrock
838			%
839			From: David Damerell
840
841			Quoting Epic Campaigns <NoS...@NoSpamMe.com>:
842			>Because C# is case sensitive, you can use the same name with different
843			>caps to make it different.
844
845			Alternatively you could set your nose hair on fire, which will also be
846			painful but will take less typing.
847			%
848			Well, I think comparing Common Lisp to Scheme is prima facie evidence
849			of ill will, even if Common Lisp wins. It is somewhat like a supposed
850			compliment like "man, you are even smarter than George W. Bush".
851
852			Erik Naggum in 3231422371368070@naggum.net
853			%
854			From: Hans-Jürgen Koch
855
856			> The GPL places additional restrictions on code. It is therefore less
857			> free than the BSD.
858			>
859			> Free code + restrictions = non-free code.
860
861			The legal restriction that people must not enter your house uninvited
862			by smashing the door adds to your freedom, don't you think so?
863			%
864			[C++ doesn't have the monopoly on hard-to-read diagnostics]
865
866			State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘(void ()(struct CoroSLF , struct CV *,
867			struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
868			from incompatible pointer type
869			State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 3 of ‘(void ()(struct CoroSLF , struct CV *,
870			struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
871			makes pointer from integer without a cast
872			State.xs:1927: error: too few arguments to function ‘(void ()(struct CoroSLF ,
873			struct CV , struct SV *, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
874			%
875			The idea that governments have rights is absurd. People have rights. The
876			people have delegated certain tasks to government for their own
877			convenience, and have accepted limits on some minimal subset of their
878			rights so that society can best protect the rest. Note that "society" is
879			not the same as "the government"; the government is just a mechanism used
880			by society to accomplish certain specific things.
881
882			[Chandon Seldon]
883			%
884			[Wikipedia]
885			Differences between vi and Emacs
886
887			The neutrality of this article is disputed.
888			%
889			[lost the reference]
890			Remember that openssl is generally the upper
891			bound on how difficult a library can be to use.
892			%
893			"Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it's pointless
894			to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and
895			elitist. No novices asking stupid questions."
896			%
897			[aol 4tw, messages are edited for readability]
898
899			Subject: Re: fcrack help
900			From: puezalb024@aol.com
901			Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:27:46 -0500
902			To: schmorp@schmorp.de
903			X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
904
905			well how about making the manual more accessable u fukin cumtwat. take
906			ur shitty software n shove it homo. this program sux anyway. i wouldnt
907			have to read a manual if you actually knew how to create a good piece of a
908			working program you stupid fuck. n let me tell you thats a good way to get
909			your name out there or your software, just tel the customer their wrong,
910			yeah, thatll work. may you rot in piss, if your head was on fire i would
911			piss on your leg.
912
913			?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
914			maybe you should go to school and learn how to spell cuz who the fuck
915			spells marK with a c? musta been a baby of a couple retards
916
917			[then, a day later]
918
919			Subject: Re: fcrack help
920			From: puezalb024@aol.com
921			Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:02:20 -0500
922			To: schmorp@schmorp.de
923			X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
924
925			just kno that your an idiot. dont be mad at me cuz your mommy n daddy cant
926			aford to buy you aol, its not my problem. like anyone is going to read
927			your stupid post anyway.. noone likes your program, how about you read the
928			previous posts n then we'll see. so you just keep sitting in your basement
929			all by your lonesome?wasting your time making useless software buddy, cuz
930			quiet frankly i could give 2 shits. oh yeah if you plan on posting my
931			response make sure you dont edit nothing and include ALL of my response u
932			fucking nerd. why dont you put it on ur myspace as well, print up a couple
933			copies n post em on your walls too buddy
934
935
936			-----Original Message-----
937			From: Marc Lehmann <schmorp@schmorp.de>
938			To: puezalb024@aol.com
939			Sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 2:17 am
940			Subject: Re: fcrack help
941
942
943
944			On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 07:27:46PM -0500, puezalb024@aol.com wrote:
945	root	1.432	>
946	root	1.431	> ?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
947
948			I was suspecting that aol users have, uhm, issues, but that's just hilarious :->
949
950			Note that I will publish your response so other people can share the fun,
951			I hope you don't object :)
952			%
953			>Dummerweise steht es auch in der Welt der Wunder Zeitschrift und die ist
954			>dafür bekannt Fakten zu liefern.
955
956			You made my day
957			%
958			[http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0810.1/2945.html]
959
960			Names are important. In fact, naming is often _more_ important than the
961			implementation is. And that means that the implementation should follow
962			the naming, or the implementation is wrong.
963
964			Linus
965			%
966			The ultimate hipocrisy is when people send you mails like this:
967
968			From: Christian Walde <mithaldu@yahoo.de>
969
970			I'll be utterly blunt now and ask this in advance: Are you being an asshole on purpose? If so, please just stop reading now and ignore a person trying t ...
971
972			[lots of kilobyte-sized single-line paragraphs omitted]
973
974			As too many people send me top- and fully-quoted
975			emails, here is a guide on how to be considerate
976			when sending emails to other people:
977			http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
978
979			[which states to not use more than, say, 72 columns per line]
980
981			[mail quoted with permission btw.]
982			%
983			* k-god tries to think of the one mutt enhancement he'd like...
984			<k-god> OK. Two. One: A backscratcher.
985			<brendan> I believe muttng has one of those
986			<k-god> Two: An implementation of the Internet Face Stab Protocol for MS Outlook lusers.
987			<brendan> and I think outlook does that on its own :)
988			%
989			I had some issues though, functions like tmpfile() could only
990			be used if run as administrator in windows.
991
992			Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <n.mavrogiannopoulos@gmail.com>
993			%
994			[on italy]
995
996			#24. fallingstones - 08-10 03:51
997
998			@youruncledarnell: First, sorry for my very bad English. Yes, the
999			majority of Italians are totally idiot, otherwise the Prime Minister
1000			wouldn't be Silvio Berlusconi, and of course also the justice is not
1001			only politicized, but also spectacularized.
1002
1003			Not only. We've the only nation in all EU having a State-controlled
1004			corporation on copyright (SIAE). This corporation have also hated
1005			by a lot of artists, Italian and foreigner, 'cause the division of
1006			funds is "strange". If some of you can understand a lot of Italian, I
1007			suggest viewing an old service on Italian TV program "Report" talking
1008			on SIAE. You can read and viewing it on this url (sorry for long url)
1009
1010			http://www.report.rai.it/R2_popup_articolofoglia/0,7246,243%255E90082,00.html
1011
1012			Our legislation on copyright is basically on a law of 1943, approved
1013			during WWII by fascism and signed by the king. We're a Republic since
1014			1948 and our Costitution dislike fascism, but we've conserved all laws
1015			from fascism period.
1016
1017			We don't admit officially other copyright licenses, like GPL or CC,
1018			cause "legally" every creation would be registered in SIAE, giving to
1019			them all rights (also rights of persecuting uses not authorized). An
1020			author of a song can't authorize itself a pianist for playing his
1021			song. If the song is registered in SIAE (and if isn't, isn't legally
1022			created, and the author isn't recognized) the pianist MUST pay the
1023			royalties, that eventually will be refunded to him by the author (if
1024			they are accorded) when, after a lot of MONTHS, he receive it from
1025			SIAE.
1026
1027			We've also some laws against Freedom of Speech, for example our penal
1028			code include apology law, that pratically means you can't say why
1029			you consider wrong a penal law. People can ask (with a lot of signs)
1030			elections for deleting a law, but not for a penal law, or better can't
1031			explain why that law it's wrong and would be deleted. If you can't
1032			explain, you'll obviously will not found never other people signing
1033			your petition (and you need at least 500, and with a REAL signs, not
1034			electronic ones
1035
1036			#25. fallingstones - 08-10 03:52
1037
1038			Then, only parties have sufficient funds for these things, and we
1039			don't have a party sufficiently interested in freedom of speech
1040			(on internet and not). 'Cause limiting Freedom of Speech included
1041			CONTROL. We've the last western country in Freedom of Speech (at least
1042			based on Freedomhouse annual statistic), the only "Partly Free" in
1043			western country.
1044
1045			I'm so sorry for being Italian, for our very stupid justice, for our
1046			very bad country laws and on all for our very stupid prime minister,
1047			but trust me, I can assure you we don't be ALL so stupid. In last
1048			elections, with an absurd law on elections, other parties have been
1049			deleted from parliament. Now we've only two main coalitions, the
1050			Berlusconi's one and the Veltroni's one. All of them have approved
1051			laws against freedom on internet, and generally against technology
1052			innovations. For these reason, all the last governments are fascists,
1053			also the governments of "center-left".
1054
1055			Again, sorry you and all for my bad English. I hope you can understand.
1056
1057			If I can, I suggest Brokep creating a guide for using TOR, a little
1058			great program (and it's free) for surfing the net anonymously and
1059			without any restriction.
1060
1061			Brokep and all TPB staff, go forward forever. You're my personal myth,
1062			and the hope that good people using brain like you exists into the
1063			world.
1064
1065			Long life to the Bay, forever.
1066			Sorry for the long message and sorry if I'm using TOR, I hope you understand.
1067			Thank you for reading.
1068			%
1069			> > don't even attempt to compare the nvidia driver support to ati's craptacular drivers.
1070			>
1071			> don't even attempt to post a useful comment
1072
1073			How very ironic.
1074			%
1075			With or without religion, we would have good people doing good things and
1076			evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that
1077			takes religion."
1078
1079			--Steve Weinberg
1080			%
1081			http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/en/why-not-use_java.xhtml
1082			%
1083			[Kurt Roecks on his change that had totally broken openssl for two years in debian]
1084			[Folks, fix valgrind bugs in your code, not in other people's code,]
1085			[if you don't understand how valgrind works]
1086
1087			"I've ran all the regression test thru valgrind, using the memset()
1088			solves most of those. As far as I know, commenting out those 2 calls
1089			solved all the warnings valgrind reported."
1090			%
1091			[From: "H.Merijn Brand"]
1092			The more I (have to) work with java, the more I am convinced perl is
1093			the right tool for me.
1094			%
1095			[deliantra]
1096			02:58:42 [Kyle] my summoned pets ate my rod of show invisible
1097			%
1098			I pretend to work because the Soviet government pretends to pay me.
1099			%
1100			cerebro ~# fuser -km /wd_old
1101			/wd_old: 5270c 12266c 12274c 12275
1102			Suddenly the Dungeon collapses!! - You die...
1103			%
1104			From the CFA633 datasheet:
1105
1106			* Do not eat the LCD panel.
1107			%
1108			>> Well, in German there is no "sports" but just "Sport".
1109			>> So by that little S at the end of sports, you could tell it's English.
1110
1111			It's the same in English as it is in German; the little S at the end
1112			actually tells you it's American.
1113			%
1114			[better do not hire this programmer]
1115			From: Tony Jackson <tj76351@gmail.com>
1116			Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
1117			Subject: Avoiding dereference of NULL pointer
1118
1119			Hi
1120
1121			I'm quite new to C programming - I have more of a Java background: maybe
1122			someone here can advise me.
1123
1124			I'm nearly finishing a little program but it has some hard-to-find bugs
1125			that basically lead to a couple pointers sometimes being NULL at the
1126			wrong time. As it stands the program just bombs out when it tries to
1127			dereference the NULL, which obviously isn't good (especially when it
1128			happens with the customer looking on!!).
1129
1130			I don't think there's any serious problem to worry about, and what I'd
1131			like to do is be able to ignore the dereference attempt and just carry
1132			on - probably the next time round the loop the pointer will be OK. In
1133			Java, I'd put a try block around the main loop, and if we catch an
1134			exception then just jump back to the start of the main loop. What's the
1135			corresponding thing in C?
1136
1137			Thanks!
1138			%
1139			[from mozilla 1.7b sources]
1140
1141			// See bug 53763.
1142			nsCOMPtr<nsIViewManager> kungFuDeathGrip;
1143			nsIPresShell *shell = doc->GetShellAt(0);
1144			if (shell) {
1145			kungFuDeathGrip = shell->GetViewManager();
1146			%
1147			[the beginning, and most common codepath, of getpid() on my linux 2.6
1148			amd64 box in a program using glibc 2.3's pthreads. thats fucking cool]
1149
1150			0x000000300049af30 <getpid+0>: mov %fs:0x94,%edx
1151			0x000000300049af38 <getpid+8>: cmp $0x0,%edx
1152			0x000000300049af3b <getpid+11>: mov %edx,%eax
1153			0x000000300049af3d <getpid+13>: jle 0x300049af41 <getpid+17>
1154			0x000000300049af3f <getpid+15>: repz retq
1155			%
1156			(A lot of this OPM stuff seems to come straight from the twilight
1157			zone. It's normal to have error codes indicating that there was a disk
1158			error or that a network packet got garbled, but I'm sure Windows Vista
1159			must be the first OS in history to have error codes for things like
1160			“display quality too high”).
1161
1162			[http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html]
1163			%
1164			Subject: Re: The right answer of -1^2 is?
1165
1166	root	1.432	> I don't think there's a real Right Way here other than reintroducing a
1167	root	1.431	> mechanism for explicitly signaling the grouping. Maybe parentheses? ;)
1168
1169			Nah. Use whitespace, like Fortress. Then you can distinguish between
1170
1171			x / y * z
1172
1173			and
1174
1175			x / y * z
1176
1177			That'll never cause problems, right? :)
1178
1179			(To be fair, I like Fortress. However, it did have some, er, unique
1180			design decisions.)
1181			%
1182			endergt:
1183			> snoofle:
1184			> > Every system (*nix, PC's, etc.) has a hex
1185			> > editor with a string-search capability - really not that hard if
1186			> > you understand what you are doing...
1187			>
1188	root	1.432	> Out of curiosity - what is the hex editor on a default Windows installation?
1189	root	1.431
1190	root	1.432	debug
1191	root	1.431	%
1192			C# is for people who want to have one arm strapped behind their back because it reduces the probability of making a mistake by 50%.
1193
1194			Java is for people who prefer to have the arm chopped off.
1195			%
1196			Steve Loughran: "The EU interop laws often come up in discussion, and they
1197			are interesting. They say that you are allowed to do reverse engineering
1198			for hardware interop. Not software: hardware."
1199
1200			Not sure what you're talking about, but Council Directive 91/250/EEC seems
1201			pretty clear to me (or as clear as legal texts can be to me...): "Article
1202			6 Decompilation
1203
1204			1. The authorization of the rightholder shall not be required where
1205			reproduction of the code and translation of its form within the meaning
1206			of Article 4 (a) and (b) are indispensable to obtain the information
1207			necessary to achieve the interoperability of an independently created
1208			computer program with other programs, provided that the following
1209			conditions are met: [...]"
1210			%
1211			http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/
1212			%
1213			Why Linux Sux ?
1214
1215			Easy .
1216			Security : most hackable operating systems are unix based .
1217			Portability : try installing unix on cutting edge hardware . bad luck it won`t work . install windows (the oldest) on any ... it will .
1218			Help : try get help for linux . after exploring tons of sites and forums the help you got is useless . for windows you just call them .
1219			Applications : we all know there are more and more on windows . linux will probably never get so many .
1220			GUI : we know how customisable is the windows gui . and how stable .
1221			Gaming : ...anyone got an ideea of a linux game that is really cool ?
1222			Cost : install linux as server ... it is free no ? but you have to pay a sysadmin . or learn a lot . buy a lot of books . using windows ... just click next . if you are not dumb you might make it secure too (reading help does HELP! ) .
1223			Virus : due to the fact that windows is so flexible it is logcal to have viruses . afterall the human body has more than a monkeys one .
1224			Stability : reboot windows 100 times by using the case button . perhaps a scandisk will appear . reboot linux ... ups kernel panic .
1225
1226			You don`t have money for OS ? Work ! Oh you hate miscrosoft and bill gates
1227			no ? Sure thing ... stupid and lazy people generally hate smart and hard
1228			working ones . Screw linux users .
1229			%
1230			19:26:03 <schmorp> did you know the us is officially metric? for over 100 years, too?
1231			19:26:27 -cfbot:#cf- [moerderer] it is also officially a democracy, go figure
1232			19:26:34 <schmorp> good point :)
1233			%
1234			> The Dell 30"...
1235
1236			It is big, but some of the reviews have not been so glowing, or rather,
1237			the glowing has been highly asymmetric.
1238			%
1239	root	1.432	Re: USA- an underdeveloped country with potentials
1240	root	1.431
1241			> > u don´t use your wealth with responsibility, you only think about yourself and shrug your shoulders with comments like, "we all have the same chance", I´m a selfmade man", "everyone has to take care of themselves".
1242	root	1.432	>
1243	root	1.431	> yeah, that's why your little brothers decided to save the world - including your grandparents' sorry asses - from hitler, because we think only of ourselves!
1244	root	1.432	>
1245	root	1.431	> your welcome, pinhead!
1246	root	1.432
1247	root	1.431	Even though I´m tired of hearing "we saved your a beep during ww2 I will respond.
1248
1249			1. Did you? Or did your great grandfathers? Maybe they were better?
1250			2. You came into the war very late, and that was strictly for buisness reasons. You need countries to trade with. The true hero in WW2 was actually Russia doing alot more then US ever did, not saying that I support Russia today.
1251			3. One good thing in the past doesn´t make up for bad things in your society today.
1252	root	1.432	4. With those retorics you will never learn anything from your own mistakes since you always can go back and talk about your effort 100 years ago.
1253	root	1.431	%
1254			[discussion about some changes in windows longhorn]
1255			Let's hope that some day Microsoft will catch up to what the
1256			public-domain tz code was doing back in 1986. (Good work, Arthur!)
1257			%
1258			ntfs ist dennoch für datei und ordnersicherheit zuständig.
1259
1260			Zum Beispiel unter Linux wenn man auf fat32 festplatten zugreifen will ist
1261			es kein problem, wenn man aber die festplatte auf ntfs convertiert hat,
1262			dann funktioniert dass nicht mehr der zugriff auf die festplatte.
1263
1264			Denn das ist die sicherheit vor zugriffen auf daten von anderen usern und
1265			anderen betriebssystemen.
1266
1267			Habe fat32 festplatte gehabt(zugriff von linux möglich) dann habe ich es
1268			auf ntfs umconvertiert und dann ging es nicht mehr.
1269
1270			habe nochmal in meinen unterlagen nachgeschlagen, haben erst ca. vor 3
1271			Wochen die Unterlagen vom Lehrer bekommen und ich sag nochmal, zittiere
1272			Lehrer: Fat32 sollte man heutzutage nicht mehr verwenden außer man hat
1273			Windows 98 und man möchte Dualbootkonfiguration erzielen. NTFS ist
1274			einfach für bessere Sicherheit zuständig.
1275
1276			Frage?
1277			Hast du Windows und Linux beides auf deinem Laptop oder Standpc?
1278			Wenn ja hattest du vorher eine fat32 festplatte?
1279			Hast du sie dann auf ntfs umconvertiert?
1280
1281			Freundlichen Grüße von Vista-Ultimate-Besitzer
1282			%
1283			"In this time of war against Osama bin Laden and the oppressive
1284			Taliban regime, we are thankful that OUR leader isn't the spoiled son
1285			of a powerful politician from a wealthy oil family who is supported by
1286			religious fundamentalists, operates through clandestine organizations,
1287			has no respect for the democratic electoral process, bombs innocents,
1288			and uses war to deny people their civil liberties." --The Boondocks
1289			%
1290			19:35:41 <elmex> dieses 'restore session' is soo sinnlos bei firefox
1291			19:35:54 <elmex> wenn die webseite die ihn gecrasht hat immer weieder crasht
1292			19:36:18 <schmorp> tja, bei mir restored er trotz einstellung nie etwas
1293			19:36:24 <schmorp> fragt sich wer mehr glück hat
1294			%
1295			What has happened is that Dave Winer got off a rant against JSON as
1296			reinventing XML's (and more specifically XML-RPC's) wheel:
1297
1298			God bless the re-inventers
1299
1300			Gotta love em, because there's no way they're going to stop breaking
1301			what works, and fixing what don't need no fixing
1302
1303	root	1.432	Crockford gets off a very pithy response:
1304	root	1.431
1305			The good thing about reinventing the wheel is that you can get a round
1306			one.
1307			%
1308			[rfc2665]
1309			The dot3StatsEtherChipSet object has now been deprecated.
1310			Implementation feedback indicates that this object is much more
1311			useful in theory than in practice.
1312			%
1313			15:40:51 <elmex> son buero is faszinierend
1314	root	1.432	15:41:08 <elmex> staendig hoerste leute seuftzen und jammern, und in 90% der faelle hats
1315	root	1.431	mit windows zu tun
1316			15:41:15 <elmex> oder mit software die dort laeuft
1317			15:41:37 <elmex> irgendwem is heut mrogen die mail inbox verloren gegangen
1318			15:41:47 <elmex> und hat sie dann wiedergefunden
1319			15:41:49 <elmex> irgendwie
1320			15:41:50 <elmex> irgendwo
1321	root	1.432	15:42:07 <elmex> achja, und backups gabs auch keine mehr, seit sich die passwoerter
1322	root	1.431	geaendert haben :->
1323			15:42:19 <elmex> (also seit wenigen tagen)
1324	root	1.432	15:47:10 <elmex> es ist auch erstaunlich wie wenig arbeit eigentlich so erledigt wird nach
1325	root	1.431	15:30
1326			15:47:48 <elmex> (mit ausnahmen)
1327			15:48:13 <elmex> aber 50-80% der zeit wird mit kommunikation verbracht
1328			%
1329			[http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=895394]
1330			The SparcStation2 technical docs recommend catting your /vmunix file to /dev/audio as a speaker test.
1331			If you go nearly deaf from the painful noise, then your speaker works.
1332			%
1333			http://www.azillionmonkeys.com/qed/optimize.html
1334
1335			Strictly for beginners
1336
1337			Techniques you might not be aware of if you have not been programming for the past 15 years of your life:
1338			[...]
1339			%
1340			http://tmbo.org/offensive/images/picpile/Welcome%20to%20paradise%21.jpg
1341			%
1342			17:34:47 <elmex> hab gehoert solaris soll GPL werden, oder zumindest denkt sun drueber nach :->:
1343			17:34:53 <schmorp> ja klar
1344			17:34:57 <schmorp> alles was lebenszeitende hat
1345			17:34:58 <schmorp> wird gpl
1346			17:35:02 <schmorp> weil sie denken, dann wirds übelreben
1347			17:35:05 <schmorp> bei mozilla hats auch gwekappt
1348			17:35:08 <elmex> hehe
1349			17:35:13 <schmorp> und die brrowserentwicklung unter linux locker ein jahr verzögert
1350			17:35:46 <elmex> dann kann joerd schilling ja endlich sein lieblings system entwickeln :-
1351			17:35:48 <elmex> :->
1352			17:35:58 <schmorp> macht er doch schon die ganze zeit
1353			17:36:02 <schmorp> chillingos, bzw.
1354			17:36:18 <elmex> uh
1355			17:36:53 <schmorp> ich finds nicht mehr
1356			17:36:57 <schmorp> er arbeitet jedenfalls dran
1357			17:38:27 <schmorp> SchilliX
1358			17:38:29 <schmorp> genau!
1359			17:38:30 <schmorp> :)
1360			17:38:33 <elmex> sueees
1361			17:38:34 <schmorp> http://developer.berlios.de/projects/schillix/
1362			17:39:59 <zaphod> omg das ist nicht wahr
1363			17:40:20 <schmorp> ihr kennt die geheimnisse und wunder unserer welt nicht
1364			17:40:32 <zaphod> das kann bestimmt CDs brennen wie nix anderes
1365			17:40:42 <elmex> lol
1366			17:41:06 <schmorp> :)
1367			%
1368			[A Gentoo User]
1369			First FreeBSD is UNIX. Yes FreeBSD runs beter then all other Linux
1370			distro’s but FreeBSD lacks any graphical features(stolen linux features
1371			doesn’t count) so it is only ment for guys with an old grey beards.
1372			[...] That’s why for geeks/nerds/professionals (like me) bsd exists [...]
1373			Gentoo is ment for professionals that need a system for a really exact
1374			environment and think LFS is to much work.
1375			[http://www.playingwithwire.com/2007/01/why-gentoo-shouldnt-be-on-your-server/]
1376			%
1377			20:08 <schmorp> my guess is, purely practically
1378			20:08 <schmorp> if copyright/patent law continues to go away from the original reasons
1379			20:08 <schmorp> that they were created for
1380			20:08 <schmorp> you will at one point have a civil war
1381			20:08 <schmorp> right now, you already have large-scale civil disobedience
1382	root	1.432	20:10 <scortch> i very much hope that it can be turned around before that happens. not the
1383			least reason is, in a Blade Runner dystopia, there isnt a lot that individuals
1384	root	1.431	can do
1385			20:11 <scortch> i.e. militarily
1386			20:11 <scortch> ah wait.
1387			20:12 <scortch> we are forgetting that low technology solutions are always around
1388			20:12 <schmorp> terrorism :)
1389			20:12 <schmorp> now i finally see the whole plot
1390			20:13 <scortch> that's quite a story
1391			%
1392			23:49 <ruskie> in my experience apart from a few exceptions all gentoo people are rude
1393	root	1.432	23:58 <Err> it seems logical that there is a strong correlation
1394			between (people who like to waste their time, and their computer's
1395			processing time, rebuilding things that have been built a million
1396	root	1.431	times before) and (idiots)
1397			23:58 <Err> (parenthesized for easy parsing ;-) )
1398	root	1.432	23:59 <Err> there are certainly exceptions to every rule - but in
1399			general, gentoo users think that they're getting magical properties
1400	root	1.431	out of rebuilding the same code everybody else builds
1401			%
1402			[http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/]
1403			Bruce Schneier decrypted the Bible. The plaintext read, "Bruce Schneier".
1404			%
1405			[http://www.mail-archive.com/cygwin-patches@cygwin.com/msg03644.html]
1406
1407			Internet Explorer: KB329781 "HTTP File Upload Operation Takes a Long Time
1408			to Complete". The printing subsystem: KB816627 "TCP/IP port printing may
1409			be slow in Windows 2000"
1410
1411			In the first KB microsoft amusingly states in relation to the fact that
1412			upload speed is limited to 80kbps no matter what the network bandwidth
1413			that "this behaviour is by design". The mind boggles...
1414			%
1415			[so much for type-safety]
1416			List<Integer> lst = new ArrayList<Integer>;
1417			lst.add(null);
1418			int x = 1 + lst.get(0);
1419			%
1420			[just for reference]
1421			Wenn man weiss, dass man in seinem Leben nicht mehr Glücklich werden
1422			kann, und sich von Tag zu Tag die Gründe dafür häufen, dann bleibt
1423			einem nichts anderes übrig als aus diesem Leben zu verschwinden. Und
1424			dafür habe ich mich entschieden. Es gibt vielleicht Leute die hätten
1425			weiter gemacht, hätten sich gedacht "das wird schon", aber das wird
1426			es nicht.
1427
1428			Man hat mir gesagt ich muss zur Schule gehen, um für mein leben zu
1429			lernen, um später ein schönes Leben führen zu können. Aber was bringt
1430			einem das dickste Auto, das grösste Haus, die schönste Frau, wenn es
1431			letztendlich sowieso für’n Arsch ist. Wenn deine Frau beginnt dich zu
1432			hassen, wenn dein Auto Benzin verbraucht das du nicht zahlen kannst, und
1433			wenn du niemanden hast der dich in deinem scheiss Haus besuchen kommt!
1434
1435			Das einzigste was ich intensiv in der Schule beigebracht bekommen habe
1436			war, das ich ein Verlierer bin. Für die ersten jahre an der GSS stimmt
1437			das sogar, ich war der Konsumgeilheit verfallen, habe danach gestrebt
1438			Freunde zu bekommen, Menschen die dich nicht als Person, sondern als
1439			Statussymbol sehen. Aber dann bin ich aufgewacht! Ich erkannte das die
1440			Welt wie sie mir erschien nicht existiert, das sie eine Illusion war,
1441			die hauptsächlich von den Medien erzeugt wurde. Ich merkte mehr und
1442			mehr in was für einer Welt ich mich befand. Eine Welt in der Geld alles
1443			regiert, selbst in der Schule ging es nur darum. Man musste das neuste
1444			Handy haben, die neusten Klamotten, und die richtigen "Freunde". hat
1445			man eines davon nicht ist man es nicht wert beachtet zu werden. Und diese
1446			Menschen nennt man Jocks. Jocks sind alle, die meinen aufgrund von teuren
1447			Klamotten oder schönen Mädchen an der Seite über anderen zu stehen. Ich
1448			verabscheue diese Menschen, nein, ich verabscheue Menschen.
1449
1450			Ich habe in den 18 Jahren meines Lebens erfahren müssen, das man nur
1451			Glücklich werden kann, wenn man sich der Masse fügt, der Gesellschaft
1452			anpasst. Aber das konnte und wollte ich nicht. Ich bin frei! Niemand darf
1453			in mein Leben eingreifen, und tut er es doch hat er die Konsequenzen zu
1454			tragen! Kein Politiker hat das Recht Gesetze zu erlassen, die mir Dinge
1455			verbieten, Kein Bulle hat das Recht mir meine Waffe wegzunehmen, schon gar
1456			nicht während er seine am Gürtel trägt.
1457
1458			Wozu das alles? Wozu soll ich arbeiten? Damit ich mich kaputtmaloche um
1459			mit 65 in den Ruhestand zugehen und 5 Jahre später abzukratzen? Warum
1460			soll ich mich noch anstrengen irgendetwas zu erreichen, wenn es
1461			letztendlich sowieso für'n Arsch ist weil ich früher oder später
1462			krepiere? Ich kann ein Haus bauen, Kinder bekommen und was weiss ich
1463			nicht alles. Aber wozu? Das Haus wird irgendwann abgerissen, und die
1464			Kinder sterben auch mal. Was hat denn das Leben bitte für einen
1465			Sinn? Keinen! Also muss man seinem Leben einen Sinn geben, und das
1466			mache ich nicht indem ich einem überbezahlten Chef im Arsch rumkrieche
1467			oder mich von Faschisten verarschen lasse die mir erzählen wollen wir
1468			leben in einer Volksherrschaft. Nein, es gibt für mich jetzt noch eine
1469			Möglichkeit meinem Leben einen Sinn zu geben, und die werde ich nicht wie
1470			alle anderen zuvor verschwenden! Vielleicht hätte mein Leben komplett
1471			anders verlaufen können. Aber die Gesellschaft hat nunmal keinen Platz
1472			für Individualisten. Ich meine richtige Individualisten, Leute die
1473			slebst denken, und nicht solche 'Ich trage ein Nietenarmband und bin
1474			alternativ' Idioten!
1475
1476			Ihr habt diese Schlacht begonnen, nicht ich. Meine Handlungen sind ein
1477			Resultat eurer Welt, eine Welt die mich nicht sein lassen will wie ich
1478			bin. Ihr habt euch über mich lustig gemacht, dasselbe habe ich nun mit
1479			euch getan, ich hatte nur einen ganz anderen Humor! Von 1994 bis 2003/2004
1480			war es auch mein Bestreben, Freunde zu haben, Spass zu haben. Als ich
1481			dann 1998 auf die GSS kam, fing es an mit den Statussymbolen, Kleidung,
1482			Freunde, Handy usw.. Dann bin ich wach geworden. Mir wurde bewusst das
1483			ich mein Leben lang der Dumme für andere war, und man sich über mich
1484			lustig machte. Und ich habe mir Rache geschworen! Diese Rache wird so
1485			brutal und rücksichtslos ausgeführt werden, dass euch das Blut in den
1486			Adern gefriert. Bevor ich gehe, werde ich euch einen Denkzettel verpassen,
1487			damit mich nie wieder ein Mensch vergisst! Ich will das ihr erkennt, das
1488			niemand das Recht hat unter einem faschistischen Deckmantel aus Gesetz und
1489			Religion in fremdes Leben einzugreifen!
1490
1491			Ich will das sich mein Gesicht in eure Köpfe einbrennt! Ich will
1492			nicht länger davon laufen! Ich will meinen Teil zur Revolution der
1493			Ausgestossenen beitragen!
1494
1495			Ich will R A C H E !
1496
1497			Ich habe darüber nachgedacht, dass die meisten der Schüler die mich
1498			gedemütigt haben schon von der GSS abgegangen sind. Dazu habe ich zwei
1499			Dinge zu sagen:
1500
1501			1. Ich ging nicht nur in eine klasse, nein, ich ging auf die ganze Schule.
1502
1503			Die Menschen die sich auf der Schule befinden, sind in keinem Falle
1504			unschuldig! Niemand ist das! In deren Köpfen läuft das selbe Programm
1505			welches auch bei den früheren Jahrgängen lief! Ich bin der Virus der
1506			diese Programme zerstören will, es ist völlig irrelewand wo ich da
1507			anfange.
1508
1509			2. Ein Grossteil meiner Rache wird sich auf das Lehrpersonal richten,
1510			denn das sind Menschen die gegen meinen Willen in mein Leben eingegriffen
1511			haben, und geholfen haben mich dahin zu stellen, wo ich jetzt stehe; Auf
1512			dem Schlachtfeld! Diese Lehrer befinden sich so gut wie alle noch auf
1513			dieser verdammten schule!
1514
1515			Das Leben wie es heute täglich stattfindet ist wohl das armseeligste was
1516			die Welt zu bieten hat!
1517
1518			S.A.A.R.T. - Schule, Ausbildung, Arbeit, Rente, Tod
1519
1520			Das ist der Lebenslauf eines "normalen" Menschen heutzutage. Aber
1521			was ist eigentlich normal? Als normal wird das bezeichnet, was von der
1522			Gesellschaft erwartet wird. Somit werden heutzutage Punks, Penner,
1523			Mörder, Gothics, Schwule usw. als unnormal bezeichnet, weil sie den
1524			allgemeinen Vorstellungen der Gesellschaft nicht gerecht werden, können
1525			oder wollen. Ich scheiss auf euch! Jeder hat frei zu sein! Gebt jedem
1526			eine Waffe und die Probleme unter den Menschen lösen sich ohne jedliche
1527			Einmischung Dritter. Wenn jemand stirbt, dann ist er halt tot. Und? Der
1528			Tod gehört zum Leben! Kommen die Angehörigen mit dem Verlust nicht klar,
1529			können sie Selbstmord begehen, niemand hindert sie daran!
1530
1531			S.A.A.R.T. beginnt mit dem 6. Lebensjahr hier in Deutschland, mit der
1532			Einschulung.
1533
1534			Das Kind begibt sich auf seine perönliche Sozialisationsstrecke, und
1535			wird in den darauffolgenden Jahren gezwungen sich der Allgemeinheit, der
1536			Mehrheit anzupassen. Lehnt es dies ab, schalten sich Lehrer, Eltern,
1537			und nicht zuletzt die Polizei ein. Schulpflicht ist die Schönrede von
1538			Schulzwang, denn man wird ja gezwungen zur Schule zu gehen. Wer gezwungen
1539			wird, verliert ein Stück seiner Freiheit. Man wird gezwungen Steuern zu
1540			zahlen, man wird gezwungen Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungen einzuhalten, man
1541			wird gezwungen dies zu tun, man wird gewzungen das zu tun. Ergo: Keine
1542			Freiheit! Und sowas nennt man dann Volksherrschaft. Wenn das Volk hier
1543			herrschen würde, hiesse es Anarchie!
1544
1545			WERDET ENDLICH WACH - GEHT AUF DIE STRASSE - DAS HAT IN DEUTSCHLAND
1546			SCHONMAL FUNKTIONIERT!
1547
1548			Nach meiner Tat werden wieder irgendwelche fetten Politiker dumme
1549			Sprüche klopfen wie "Wir halten nun alle zusammen" oder "Wir
1550			müssen gemeinsam versuchen dies durchzustehen". Doch das machen
1551			sie nur um Aufmerksmakeit zu bekommen, um sich selbst als die Lösung
1552			zu präsentieren. Auf der GSS war es genauso... niemals lässt
1553			sich dieses fette Stück Scheisse von Rektorin blicken, aber wenn
1554			Theater-aufführungen sind, dann steht sie als erste mit einem breiten
1555			Grinsen auf der Bühne und präsentiert sich der Masse!
1556
1557			Nazis, HipHoper, Türken, Staat, Staatsdiener, Gläubige... einfach alle
1558			sind zum kotzen und müssen vernichtet werden! (Den begriff "Türken"
1559			benutze ich für alle HipHopMuchels und Kleingangster; Sie kommen nach
1560			Deutschland weil die Bedingungen bei ihnen zu hause zu schlecht sind,
1561			weil Krieg ist... und dann kommen Sie nach Deutschland, dem Sozialamt der
1562			Welt, und lassne hier die Sau raus. Sie sollten alle vergast werden! Keine
1563			Juden, keine Neger, keine Holländer, aber Muchels! ICH BIN KEIN SCHEISS
1564			NAZI) Ich hasse euch und eure Art! Ihr müsst alle sterben!
1565
1566			Seit meinem 6. Lebensjahr wurde ich von euch allen verarscht! Nun müsst
1567			ihr dafür bezahlen!
1568
1569			Weil ich weiss das die Fascholizei meine Videos, Schulhefte, Tagebücher,
1570			einfach alles, nicht veröffentlichen will, habe ich das selbst in die
1571			Hand genommen.
1572
1573			Als letztes möchte ich den Menschen die mir was bedeuten, oder die jemals
1574			gut zu mir waren, danken, und mich für all dies Entschuldigen!
1575
1576			Ich bin weg...
1577			%
1578			01:14 <scortch> its an NP hard for computers
1579			01:14 <elmex> no, it's NP hard for anyone
1580			%
1581	root	1.432	19:18 <elmex> schmorp: eben anner kasse stand jemadn hinter mir und faselte mit seinen
1582			kumpels zum thema bill gates: "... er ist ja mein vorbild, nicht jetzt
1583			wegen dem geld, sondern wegen dem charakterlichen und so ... der hat ja
1584			die haelfte seines vermoegens gespendet.... und ne jacht hat der auch...
1585	root	1.431	abe was fuer eine... voll fettes schiff...'
1586			19:19 <schmorp> rofl
1587			19:19 <schmorp> aber nicht wegem dme geld
1588			19:19 <elmex> der studiert glaub ich informatik :)
1589			19:19 <elmex> das is die neue generation
1590			19:19 <elmex> 'generation gates'
1591			19:19 <schmorp> die frage schiene mcirosoft oder schiene java erübrigt sich
1592			%
1593			http://www.bissantz.de/pub/Luegen_mit_Statistiken.pdf
1594			%
1595			[http://use.perl.org/~luqui/journal/]
1596			[The reason I left Perl 6]
1597
1598			The virtue of social art was extinguished when the solutions that I had
1599			worked for weeks on and I considered truly beautiful lost to syntax
1600			bloat and "DWIM tables". It bascially came down to the rest of the team
1601			considering Perl much more pragmatically than I did, which may end up
1602			better for the end result anyway—it is hard to tell.
1603			%
1604			http://www.ta-sa.org/files/sc/perl6_timeline_updated.png
1605			%
1606			00:20 <schmorp> Mikachu: xjdic lists ぶっかける as to dash (slosh) water (or other liquid)onapersonorinaperson'sface
1607			00:21 <Mikachu> yeah, that made me laugh a bit
1608			00:21 <Mikachu> "or other liquid, know what i mean, nudge nudge"
1609			%
1610			[very funny read]
1611			Hack-a-Bike
1612			USK@vZ8crASNqmw9APiGDtTxV0YvspklNnOTmQin0ZsPLdk,bnUaihNj6Ww8CFvBQo4UwH0pYiS0hOyeKIxvO0tZdJk,AQABAAE/hack-a-bike/1/index_de.html
1613			%
1614			Now that habeas corpus and other basic rights, including the right not to
1615			be tortured while interrogated, have now been deemed unnecessary, more
1616			Americans than ever have been thinking of getting out the door while they
1617			still can.
1618
1619			http://www.boingboing.net/2006/10/23/getting_out_your_gui.html
1620			%
1621	root	1.432	23:52 <elmex> Zaehlen sie die wichtigsten Berufsfelder der IT-Branche auf:
1622			Java-code-affe, Bussiness-scheisse-laber-affe, Windows-admin,
1623	root	1.431	Windows-user, echter Admin und echter Programmierer.
1624			%
1625			[without words]
1626			http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/1030/104_print.html
1627			%
1628			[http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030217/cockburn]
1629			We're in the twilit world of the "thought crime." Have a photo of a kid in
1630			a bath on your hard drive, and the prosecutor says you were looking at it
1631			with lust in your heart, and that is tantamount to sexually molesting an
1632			actual kid in an actual bath.
1633			%
1634			Don't put stock in the Constitution, anymore. It IS just a piece of paper,
1635			today (actually, since Oct 17th). The Military Commissions Act of 2006
1636			makes the Constitution null and void. You (regardless of your citizenship)
1637			may be held with no charges, for no reason, for an indefinite time, with
1638			absolutely no judicial oversight. It is completely legal for the
1639			government to pick you up and for you to disappear with no one ever knowing
1640			what happened to you.
1641			%
1642	root	1.432	--
1643	root	1.431	Markus Schulz
1644
1645			A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion
1646			Q: Why is top posting bad?
1647			%
1648			On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 02:05:19AM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
1649	root	1.432	> 1. It's not that I don't want to, but I _can't_ implement kprobes and not
1650			> due to lack of skills, but lack of resources. (There is a subtle but
1651	root	1.431	> important difference.)
1652
1653			Um, given the amount of time you've spent trying to pursuade us why
1654			you can't implement kprobes for m68k, perhaps you would have
1655			implemented it already if you had buckled down and started coding
1656			instead of flaming about why everyone else should bend over backwards
1657			just because you don't have time for your arch? :-)
1658
1659			- Ted
1660			%
1661			[http://richarddawkins.net/mainPage.php?bodyPage=article_body.php&id=183]
1662			"I want to see young people who are as committed to the cause of Jesus
1663			Christ as the young people are to the cause of Islam. I want to see them
1664			as radically laying down their lives for the gospel as they are over in
1665			Pakistan and Israel and Palestine and all those different places... Excuse
1666			me, but we have the truth!"
1667			%
1668			[Meijin Title Game #3, Takao Shinji vs. Cho U]
1669			(22) archimed [18k?]: actually, what are considered to be their respective strengths?
1670			(22) zephi [ 7k+]: takao's strength is kickin cho u's butt
1671			(22) zephi [ 7k+]: cho u's a big fighter
1672			%
1673			[nethack extinctionist faq]
1674			The first "extinctionist" ascension on r.g.r.n. (at least from what I can
1675			tell) seems to have been by Matthew Bourland in 2000, who although he
1676			didn't actually kill everything, certainly genocided all (at the time) 256
1677			monster types that were genocidable. Then, after that he extincted all
1678			other randomly generated monsters. On the other hand, having 120 kills
1679			in every category is perhaps more noteworthy (or foolhardy?) than simply
1680			genociding every monster.
1681
1682			I'd recommend a dose of both. Kill them until they're dead and then
1683			genocide them for good measure!
1684			%%
1685			[nethack instadeath faq]
1686
1687			* eating Death, Famine, Pestilence, Medusa, or green slime corpses
1688
1689			Well let's face it, this is just plain stupid. So don't do it!
1690			%
1691			17:57 <zaphod> Murch: Stroemungslehre ist geil
1692			17:57 <Murch> zaphod: hm?
1693	root	1.432	17:57 <zaphod> Murch: "Diese Gleichungen sind, zumindest aus der Sicht eines
1694	root	1.431	Ingenieurs, als exakt anzusehen."
1695			17:58 <Murch> lol
1696			%
1697			22:51 -cfbot:#cf- [Wrathmagic] oh i love killing pirates yes i do i love stabbing them through and through
1698			%
1699			[Brazil and Bush’s War on Terror]
1700			http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/blumen3.html
1701			%
1702			http://trac.syr.edu/tracreports/terrorism/169/
1703			%
1704			http://web3.0log.org/2006/09/01/new-secure-browser-browzar-is-fake-and-full-of-adware/
1705
1706			There was time when badware developers tried to install ad pages as homepage
1707			or searchpage in user’s IE by any possible means. Nowadays users install
1708			adware voluntarily and write news about it. True web2.0 style!
1709			%
1710			http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/05/universal_time_zone.html
1711
1712			At the United Nations today President George W. Bush
1713			announced a proposal to unify all the world's time zones
1714			into a single Universal Time Zone (UTZ), formerly known as
1715			the Eastern Time Zone.
1716			[...]
1717			Britain immediately supported the US plan. "If it means
1718			sleeping in broad daylight then we'll stick with our
1719			allies," said Tony Blair, "Of course there's never broad
1720			daylight in the UK, so it's not much of an issue."
1721			%
1722			Wow, and this in security-relevant code... (taken from libc's ld.so)
1723
1724			_dl_profile_output
1725			= &"/var/tmp\0/var/profile"[__libc_enable_secure ? 9 : 0];
1726			%
1727			[CRYPTO-GRAM]
1728			By January 1st, 2007, everyone crossing the border between the U.S. and Canada is supposed to have
1729			a passport. This is because of terrorism, of course. But now we learn that ferries and private
1730			watercraft will be exempt. One of two things is true. Either passports are required for
1731			security, in which case we should interfere with ferries. Or they're for show, in which case we
1732			can just do what's convenient. Or maybe we just know that terrorists never take ferries. I get
1733			that security is a trade-off, but this is kind of silly.
1734
1735			http://tinyurl.com/zl5af
1736			%
1737			[famous last words]
1738			11:22 <kaizoku> what do you mean by plonk?
1739			%
1740			What make a provider a tier 2, versus a tier 1 provider...
1741
1742			"We are a tier 1 provider" = "I am a salesperson."
1743
1744			"They are a tier 2 provider." = "I am a salesperson and they are our competitor".
1745
1746			--
1747			Jay Hennigan
1748			%
1749			http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/17_Mistakes_Microsoft_Made_in_the_Xbox_Security_System
1750			%
1751			[latimes story about a man returning to the us from iraq and being
1752			held for selling copyrighted images on t-shirts by the department
1753			of homeland security]
1754			http://tinyurl.com/ourlr
1755			%
1756			"Some other types of programs won't make the transition to Windows x64
1757	root	1.432	seamlessly, either. Microsoft ships WinXP x64 with two versions of
1758	root	1.431	Internet Explorer, a 32-bit version and a 64-bit version. The 32-bit
1759			version is the OS default because nearly all ActiveX controls and the like
1760			are 32-bit code, and where would we be if we couldn't execute the full
1761			range of spyware available to us?"
1762
1763			[http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/64-bits/index.x?pg=1]
1764			%
1765			[http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/kglobalaccel__x11_8cpp-source.html]
1766			00279 if( pEvent->xkey.state & KKeyServer::modXNumLock() ) {
1767			00280 // TODO: what's the xor operator in c++?
1768			%
1769	root	1.432	<Mikachu> give a man a fix and he's running urxvt one day, teach a man
1770	root	1.431	to fix and he will run urxvt all his life
1771			%
1772			The NSA Phone Call Database: The European Perspective
1773			http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2006/05/the_nsa_phone_c.html
1774			%
1775			Oh, I agree completely. No game has ever let me down the way Oblivoin
1776			did. I"m still hoping mods and expansions will fix it but there's no way
1777			I'm pre-ordering the next one. I'm afraid it really will be a first person
1778			shooter.
1779
1780			The really scary thing is that it's not just video games. Book sales were
1781			done last year because people just don't read as much anymore. I'm having
1782			to dumb down my newspaper editorials because people used to want analysis
1783			they could use to make their own opinions, now they seem to just want
1784			opinions they can quote without having to think for themselves. McDonalds
1785			puts pictures of the food on the cash register instead of numbers.
1786
1787			Face it. The human race is devolving. In 500 years the best selling RPG
1788			in the universe will be a console game where you roleplay an ape named
1789			Fred, swing on vines and throw your own excrement. You'll have one stat,
1790			apeness. It wiill effect everything you do in a subtle, yet unexplained
1791			way.
1792
1793			And Bethesda fan boys will be screaming "TES 504: Monkeypoo good. You go
1794			bak cave, no good rpger. Two stats bad. Made feces throw too hard. Shiney
1795			key graphic good. Make me happy."
1796
1797			shrugs But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
1798			%
1799			> So Hitler was a pacifist because he let other people kill for him? Most
1800			> D&D computer games require you to kill people (not simply knock them
1801			> out). Also just because you don't kill doesn't make you a pacifist (see
1802			> above comment about Hitler).
1803
1804			I invoke the European rule: In any given argument, the first side to
1805			mention Hitler loses.
1806			%
1807			[siggraph '99 course 12]
1808			Unfortunately, including <windows.h> has the unfortunate side effect of
1809			introducing literally thousands of macros and type declarations into
1810			your compilation environment. This undesirable "name space pollution"
1811			can sometimes affect source code portability by conflicting with your
1812			program's own macros and types. This can particularly be a problem for
1813			UNIX programmers that are not familiar with all the junk that comes with
1814			including <windows.h>.
1815			[...]
1816			Win32's requirement that you use wglGetProcAddress is a real drag,
1817			but if you do everything right, using OpenGL extensions works and
1818			gives you access to amazing new OpenGL features. And let's be honest;
1819			wglGet- ProcAddress is hardly the only annoying and awkward thing about
1820			programming with the Win32 API. Still, by using the C preprocessor and
1821			coding carefully, you actually can write OpenGL programs that use OpenGL
1822			extensions and compile from the same source code for both UNIX and Win32
1823			environments.
1824			%
1825			http://neil.franklin.ch/Usenet/alt.folklore.computers/19981207_Computers_are_so_STY00PID
1826			%
1827			[http://www.voynich.net/Kryptos]
1828			"It's easier to rig an electronic voting machine than a Las Vegas slot machine"
1829			%
1830			[CRYPTO-GRAM 2006-03-15]
1831			[...] There are all sorts of interests vying for control of your
1832			computer. There are media companies that want to control what you can
1833			do with the music and videos they sell you. There are companies that
1834			use software as a conduit to collect marketing information, deliver
1835			advertising or do whatever it is their real owners require. And there are
1836			software companies that are trying to make money by pleasing not only
1837			their customers, but other companies they ally themselves with. All these
1838			companies want to own your computer.
1839
1840			Some examples:
1841
1842			1. Entertainment software: In October 2005, it emerged that Sony had
1843			distributed a rootkit with several music CDs -- the same kind of
1844			software that crackers use to own people's computers. This rootkit
1845			secretly installed itself when the music CD was played on a computer.
1846			Its purpose was to prevent people from doing things with the music that
1847			Sony didn't approve of: It was a DRM system. If the exact same piece of
1848			software had been installed secretly by a hacker, this would have been
1849			an illegal act. But Sony believed that it had legitimate reasons for
1850			wanting to own its customers' machines.
1851	root	1.432
1852	root	1.431	2. Antivirus: You might have expected your antivirus software to detect
1853			Sony's rootkit. After all, that's why you bought it. But initially, the
1854			security programs sold by Symantec and others did not detect it,
1855			because Sony had asked them not to. You might have thought that the
1856			software you bought was working for you, but you would have been wrong.
1857
1858			3. Internet services: Hotmail allows you to blacklist certain e-mail
1859			addresses, so that mail from them automatically goes into your spam
1860			trap. Have you ever tried blocking all that incessant marketing e-mail
1861			from Microsoft? You can't.
1862
1863			4. Application software: Internet Explorer users might have expected
1864			the program to incorporate easy-to-use cookie handling and pop-up
1865			blockers. After all, other browsers do, and users have found them
1866			useful in defending against Internet annoyances. But Microsoft isn't
1867			just selling software to you; it sells Internet advertising as well. It
1868			isn't in the company's best interest to offer users features that would
1869			adversely affect its business partners.
1870
1871			5. Spyware: Spyware is nothing but someone else trying to own your
1872			computer. These programs eavesdrop on your behavior and report back to
1873			their real owners -- sometimes without your knowledge or consent --
1874			about your behavior.
1875
1876			6. Update: Automatic update features are another way software companies
1877			try to own your computer. While they can be useful for improving
1878			security, they also require you to trust your software vendor not to
1879			disable your computer for nonpayment, breach of contract or other
1880			presumed infractions.
1881
1882			Adware, software-as-a-service and Google Desktop search are all
1883			examples of some other company trying to own your computer. And Trusted
1884			Computing will only make the problem worse.
1885
1886			There is an inherent insecurity to technologies that try to own
1887			people's computers: They allow individuals other than the computers'
1888			legitimate owners to enforce policy on those machines. These systems
1889			invite attackers to assume the role of the third party and turn a
1890			user's device against him.
1891			[...]
1892			You can fight back against this trend by only using software that
1893			respects your boundaries. Boycott companies that don't honestly serve
1894			their customers, that don't disclose their alliances, that treat users
1895			like marketing assets. Use open-source software -- software created and
1896			owned by users, with no hidden agendas, no secret alliances and no
1897			back-room marketing deals.
1898			%
1899			[John Carmack on Java]
1900			Write-once-run-anywhere. Ha. Hahahahaha. We are only testing on four
1901			platforms right now, and not a single pair has the exact same quirks. All
1902			the commercial games are tweaked and compiled individually for each
1903			(often 100+) platform. Portability is not a justification for the awful
1904			performance.
1905			%
1906			[http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,415577,00.html]
1907
1908			"Wenn ich höre, dass die Telekom mit Microsoft kooperiert, da wird mir
1909			ganz anders", sagte Herbert Tillmann, der Vorsitzende der Produktions-
1910			und Technikkommission von ARD und ZDF dem Blatt. Man bevorzuge offene
1911			Standards und wolle sich der Plattform von Microsoft nicht ausliefern.
1912			%
1913			http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2006/05/german_cannibal.html
1914			%
1915			"Ok, this is complete off topic but WHY do so many Americans think that
1916			once your cross the 49th parellel into Canada that they are going out into
1917			a technology- and civilization-free zone???"
1918			http://p203.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm31
1919			%
1920			http://funroll-loops.org/
1921			%
1922			[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL]
1923			When Direct3D was released in 1995, Microsoft, SGI, and Hewlett-Packard
1924			initiated the Fahrenheit project, which was a joint effort with the
1925			goal of unifying the OpenGL and Direct3D interfaces - and again, adding
1926			a scene-graph API. It initially showed some promise of bringing order
1927			to the world of interactive 3D computer graphics APIs, but on account
1928			of financial constraints at SGI and general lack of industry support
1929			it was abandoned. The engineers involved at SGI held a beach party in
1930			celebration - complete with bonfires on which they burned piles of
1931			Fahrenheit documentation.
1932			%
1933			[Whenever I try to use svn, it fails me. Sure I modified files, but whats
1934			the point of a RCS system that can't cope with that? Besides, I am 100%
1935			sure its much slower than CVS]
1936			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
1937			svn: Won't delete locally modified directory '.'
1938			svn: Left locally modified or unversioned files
1939	root	1.432	[Exit 1]
1940	root	1.431	cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
1941			svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
1942	root	1.432	[Exit 1]
1943	root	1.431	cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn diff
1944			svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
1945	root	1.432	[Exit 1]
1946	root	1.431	[Great, my local fixes are lost now, too. Whoever let this horror loose on
1947			humanity deserves to be shot or something like that]
1948			%
1949	root	1.430	[http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431.12]
1950
1951			... I'm evaluating a bunch of J2EE portlet-enabled JSR-compliant MVC
1952			role-based CMS web service application container frameworks. ...
1953	root	1.431	%
1954	root	1.429	Subject: RE: Question about Leap Second Features
1955
1956			> Is there any implementation for this information on Microsoft operating
1957			> systems ?
1958
1959			Any Microsoft operating system that is accurate down to the second can
1960			probably be hand-picked from Bill Gates' garage ... ;-)
1961
1962			Jesper
1963			%
1964	root	1.428	[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ballmer]
1965
1966			"As far as I can tell, the phrase 'I. Love. This. Company.
1967			YEEEAAAAAAAAARARRRRARAGH!' has FIVE words, not four."
1968
1969	root	1.432	~ Oscar Wilde on Steve Ballmer having four words for you.
1970	root	1.429	%
1971	root	1.427	http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/kafkaesque.html
1972			%
1973	root	1.426	[http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136541]
1974
1975			You've doubled the work. People don't like that. People REALLY don't
1976			like that. The number of duplicate bugs filed against the chooser is
1977			evidence for this. Furthermore, click depth is a standard metric for
1978			measuring HCI usability, and this dialog has moved in the absolute wrong
1979			direction. People won't be satisfied until they get the entry box back
1980			into the dialog. You can grind your teeth and pull your hair all you want,
1981			but that's the truth.
1982			%
1983	root	1.424	[de.alt.ufo]
1984
1985			Braun Ludwig <Wick84@gmx.de> wrote:
1986
1987	root	1.432	> 1. Ufos sind für mich Flugobjekte des US Militärs mit einen neuartigen
1988			> Atrieb, der mit einen Motorgenerator von ca 100000 Volt und einer
1989			> Stromstärke von ca 2 mA, einer elektronischen Steuereinheit und einer
1990			> Antriebseinheit auf Kondensator Basis betrieben wird. Zur Erklärung des
1991	root	1.424
1992			Aaha! Naja, die Elektrogravitation ist wirklich seit langem bekannt. Damit aber
1993	root	1.425	einen Antrieb zu realisieren halte ich für weniger wahrscheinlich. So abstrakt
1994			ist diese Funktion nicht und es wären schon mehr als ein Mensch dahinter
1995	root	1.424	gekommen. Ich sicher auch.
1996
1997			Allerdings schreibst Du hier von einem Generator. Es stellt sich die Frage
1998			was genau man mit 2 mA erzeugen will. Jeder Paralyzer schafft das mit
1999	root	1.425	der Hälfte der Spannung auch. Ich habe aber noch kein Opfer schweben
2000	root	1.424	gesehen. Im Gegenteil - die bewegen sich eigentlich immer ziemlich schnell
2001			in Richtung Boden.
2002
2003			[...]
2004
2005	root	1.432	> Dieser Ufo Flugzeug Typ wird in erster Linie als Spionage und
2006	root	1.425	> Aufklärungsflugobject eingesetzt.
2007	root	1.424
2008			Verstehe. Was ist in Afrika so interessant? Bekanntlich gibt oder gab es
2009	root	1.425	da bisher die überwiegenden Sichtungen. Was will z.B. der Ami von den
2010	root	1.424	Eingeborenen erfahren? Wie man richtig Reis oder Getreide kocht?
2011
2012			[...]
2013
2014			> 2. ausserirdische Ufo Flugobjekte.
2015	root	1.432	> Es gibt maximal 1 oder 2 oder drei ausserirdische Flugzeug
2016	root	1.425	> Beobachtungen, die tatsächlich wahr sind.
2017	root	1.424
2018			Nur drei? Das muss ich mir merken, damit ich das nicht vergesse. Welche
2019	root	1.425	mögen das Deiner Meinung nach wohl gewesen sein? Das ist ja noch
2020			schlimmer als Cenap, die von etwa 100.000 Fällen 1% erforscht haben,
2021			die wiederum schon im Vorfeld als 'normal' geklärt waren. Mit dieser
2022	root	1.424	Meinung solltest Du zu WW gehen und dich vorstellen. Der nimmmt Dich
2023			sofort.
2024			%
2025	root	1.423	[http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/Tech/connect4.htm]
2026			By the way, decryption can be performed easily in your editor with syntax
2027			like !!tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M (Sorry if you had the misfortune to buy your
2028			software from Microsoft.)
2029	root	1.424	%
2030	root	1.422	http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/
2031	root	1.424	%
2032	root	1.421	> BTW I have 2 English words for you, FUCK YOU
2033
2034			Why, that's a rather intimate proposal. I never realised you were
2035			gay. While I would like to offer the hand of friendship, I am
2036			afraid that the thought of sex with a grown man doesn't really do
2037			much for me so I shall have to decline with a modicum of regret.
2038	root	1.424	%
2039	root	1.420	http://www.ta-sa.org/files/java_godkk.jpg
2040	root	1.419	http://www.chunder.com/carrots/javasux.html
2041	root	1.424	%
2042	root	1.418	Subject: Re: Docket No. 2005-22114
2043			From: Rodrigo Severo
2044			Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:04:33 -0200
2045			To: tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov
2046
2047			On 1/23/06, Paul Eggert wrote:
2048
2049			"David Braverman" <david@inner-drive.com> writes:
2050			It is a bit ironic that the US is less efficient than Brazil in fixing
2051			obviously-broken regulations like this.
2052
2053			I'm sorry but I have to ask: where is the irony in this? I hope the answer
2054			isn't obvious to people from US and I'm not seeing it just because I'm
2055			brazilian ;)
2056			Rodrigo Severo
2057	root	1.424	%
2058	root	1.431	[Frankly, I'd just like to know what GNOME did wrong to deserve this :]
2059	root	1.417
2060			http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/faq.html#1.13
2061	root	1.424	%
2062	root	1.416	[Another entry in the series "make this a blog":]
2063
2064			I wanted to see it for myself, and directed my browser to http://www.mpaa.org/.
2065
2066			Got "Bad Request (Invalid Header Name)".
2067
2068			Well.. some investigation showed that it didn't like the headers added by
2069			squid (in mostly default debian config).
2070
2071			sigh
2072	root	1.424	%
2073	root	1.415	A LIBERAL DECALOGUE
2074			By Bertrand Russell
2075
2076			Perhaps the essence of the Liberal outlook could be summed up in a new
2077			decalogue, not intended to replace the old one but only to supplement
2078			it. The Ten Commandments that, as a teacher, I should wish to promulgate,
2079			might be set forth as follows:
2080
2081			1. Do not feel absolutely certain of anything.
2082
2083			2. Do not think it worth while to proceed by concealing evidence, for the
2084			evidence is sure to come to light.
2085
2086			3. Never try to discourage thinking for you are sure to succeed.
2087
2088			4. When you meet with opposition, even if it should be from your husband
2089			or your children, endeavor to overcome it by argument and not by
2090			authority, for a victory dependent upon authority is unreal and illusory.
2091
2092			5. Have no respect for the authority of others, for there are always
2093			contrary authorities to be found.
2094
2095			6. Do not use power to suppress opinions you think pernicious, for if you
2096			do the opinions will suppress you.
2097
2098			7. Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted
2099			was once eccentric.
2100
2101			8. Find more pleasure in intelligent dissent that in passive agreement,
2102			for, if you value intelligence as you should, the former implies a deeper
2103			agreement than the latter.
2104
2105			9. Be scrupulously truthful, even if the truth is inconvenient, for it is
2106			more inconvenient when you try to conceal it.
2107
2108			10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool's
2109			paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness."
2110
2111			"A Liberal Decalogue" is from The Autobiography of Bertrand Russell,
2112			Vol. 3: 1944-1969, pp. 71-2.
2113	root	1.424	%
2114	root	1.413	[http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/12/09/502014.aspx]
2115	root	1.412	John Hoy, President of the DVD Copy Control Association, made
2116			the following statement to the Library of Congress in its 2003
2117			Anticircumvention rulemaking proceedings:
2118
2119			"Furthermore, if a consumer in the United States desires to view a DVD disc
2120			that has been region coded only for Europe, then that consumer is free to
2121			purchase a DVD player (either hardware or software) that is coded to play
2122			European DVDs. No legal restrictions apply-either through the CSS license
2123			or otherwise-to the importation and use of non-U.S. region players in the
2124			United States."
2125	root	1.413	---
2126			It must really suck to live in a nation where competition is actually
2127			outlawed - you have to feel sorry for all those people oppressed by
2128			communists and socialists. Oh, wait.... ;)
2129	root	1.414	---
2130			"You ain't seen nothin' yet! I heard that the new HD-DVDs or Blue-ray
2131			discs (whichever win eventually) will be street-encoded. You have to
2132			quote your street name while buying DVDs and they won't work in the next
2133			street. The hidden reason for this is that MPAA wants to charge upwards of
2134			$1000 per DVD for those living in million dollar mansions."
2135
2136			This isn't far from the truth. Blu-ray disks for PlayStation3 will only
2137			play in ONE player on earth. MS will eventually make up something similar.
2138	root	1.424	%
2139	root	1.411	[gnome-clock and my radio-clock failed miserably, /bin/date and Linux worked:]
2140			Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC
2141	root	1.424	%
2142	root	1.410	[http://www.slate.com/id/2133993/]
2143
2144			Vulnerabilities deemed "critical" have forced the company to release an
2145			almost unending stream of patches and fixes [...]
2146
2147			Sure, it might be nice to connect your computer and your television
2148			set. But is it worth it to give hackers access to your television?
2149
2150			Even if we don't use them, we suffer from them.
2151
2152			[...] a former senior security analyst for the House of Representatives,
2153			believes that Microsoft is a threat to national security.
2154	root	1.424	%
2155	root	1.409	[Copyright History - US view]
2156			http://www.culturaleconomics.atfreeweb.com/cpu.htm
2157	root	1.424	%
2158	root	1.408	[I just re-read the unix haters hadnbook]
2159			X has had its share of $5,000 toilet seats -- like Sun's Open Look clock
2160			tool, which gobbles up 1.4 megabytes of real memory! If you sacrificed all
2161			the RAM from 22 Commodore 64s to clock tool, it still wouldn't have enough
2162			to tell you the time. Even the vanilla X11R4 "xclock" utility consumed
2163			656K to run. And X's memory usage is increasing.
2164	root	1.424	%
2165	root	1.406	[Got to remember this way of arguing, it's great if it works:]
2166
2167			"Most people, I think, don’t even know what a rootkit is, so why should
2168			they care about it?"
2169			-- Thomas Hesse, Sony BMG’s Global Digital Business President.
2170	root	1.407
2171			[see also http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004145.php]
2172	root	1.424	%
2173	root	1.405	Let me repeat again: Formal axiomatic systems are a failure!
2174			-- Gregory Chaitin
2175	root	1.424	%
2176	root	1.432	13:49 <RayTracer> pixelsize=14 ist so groß wie 8 beim xchat wenn ich den
2177	root	1.404	gnome-settings-daemon nicht lade
2178			13:50 <schmorp> autsch, was hat das mit dem gnome-settings-daemon zu tun? ist ja hart!
2179			[...]
2180	root	1.432	13:51 <RayTracer> wenn ich den nicht lade sind alle gtk-programme mit großem Font,
2181			wenn ich ihn lade werden sie klein gemacht und wenn ich ihn töte ist
2182	root	1.404	wieder alles groß
2183	root	1.424	%
2184	root	1.403	[man perlsub]
2185			That prints "unphooey". (Yes, there are still unresolved issues
2186			having to do with visibility of @_. I’m ignoring that question
2187			for the moment. (But note that if we make @_ lexically scoped,
2188			those anonymous subroutines can act like closures... (Gee, is this
2189			sounding a little Lispish? (Never mind.))))
2190	root	1.424	%
2191	root	1.402	[glibc's bits/socket.h]
2192
2193			if ((size_t) __cmsg->cmsg_len < sizeof (struct cmsghdr))
2194	root	1.432	/* The kernel header does this so there may be a reason. */
2195			return 0;
2196	root	1.424	%
2197	root	1.400	http://www.wicked-vision.com/zensur/zensur/zensur_bei_filmen.html
2198	root	1.401
2199			> Die Argumente liefen insbesondere darauf hinaus, dass es sich bei den
2200			> Filmen, auf die in Anspielungen verwiesen wird, um Filme handelt, die
2201			> entweder von der FSK gekennzeichnet wurden mit "nicht freigegeben
2202			> unter 18 Jahren", die von der Bundesprüfstelle indiziert wurden oder
2203			> die sogar durch entsprechende Beschlüsse bundesweit beschlagnahmt
2204			> wurden, also alles Filme, die Kindern und Jugendlichen aufgrund der
2205			> Gesetze zum Jugendschutz von vornherein nicht zugänglich sind. Kindern
2206			> und Jugendlichen wird daher die Persiflage auf diese Filme nicht
2207			> transparent.
2208
2209			Das muß man sich mal auf der Zunge zergehen lassen: Da wird ein Film,
2210			der ab 18 Jahren freigegeben ist, indiziert, weil Kinder und Jugendliche
2211			die parodistischen Anspielungen nicht verstehen könnten. Mit solchen
2212			Begründungen beraubt sich die BPjS letztlich ihrer Glaubwürdigkeit.
2213	root	1.424	%
2214	root	1.399	Großmanns Gesetz: Komplexe Probleme haben einfache, leichtverständliche,
2215			aber falsche Lösungen.
2216	root	1.424	%
2217	root	1.398	A project done in Java will cost 5 times as much, take twice as long,
2218			and be harder to maintain than a project done in a scripting language such
2219			as PHP or Perl. [http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/09/20#a1762 Java
2220			is the SUV of programming tools] Philip Greenspun
2221	root	1.424	%
2222	root	1.397	On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Till Kamppeter wrote:
2223			>
2224			> Frederic told that the options from the PPD file are intentionally mot
2225			> listed in the printing dialog, the usability team of GNOME was against
2226			> listing these options. They clutter the dialog and can be more confusing
2227			> than useful to the user.
2228
2229			I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE.
2230
2231			This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of
2232			Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will
2233			use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long
2234			since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do.
2235
2236			Please, just tell people to use KDE.
2237
2238			Linus
2239	root	1.424	%
2240	root	1.396	Move 80, Node 81
2241			theodore [22k?]: i hear 8 d can read the future
2242			setzer [?]: what about 9d
2243			theodore [22k?]: they control it
2244	root	1.424	%
2245	root	1.395	[Fuqid 1.6 FAQ]
2246			Wenn ich HTL auf 300 setze dann lade ich viel schneller runter, warum?
2247
2248	root	1.398	Weil du daran glaubst, das hat nur psychologische Gründe. HTL's grösser
2249	root	1.395	als das Nodelimit haben einfach keinen Einfluss. PUNKT!
2250			--
2251			Warum wurde Fuqid nicht in der geilen Sprache XX geschrieben?
2252
2253			Du sprichst nur eine Sprache? Bist du Amerikaner?
2254	root	1.424	%
2255	root	1.393	[Are people responsible for the company they work at?]
2256			I was at a party in New York City earlier this year, and a conversation went like this:
2257
2258			Person: What do you do?
2259			Me: I'm a computer programmer at Microsoft.
2260			Person: <viciously> I hate you.
2261
2262			If Miss Manners didn't say so explicitly, I suspect she would nevertheless
2263			agree that snarling "I hate you" to somebody on first introduction is not
2264			exactly getting off on the right foot.
2265	root	1.394
2266			[And this is how that Microsoft programmer reacts to bugs in Microsoft software]
2267			http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/10/17/481810.aspx
2268	root	1.424	%
2269	root	1.392	"The music and film industries are demanding that the European parliament
2270			extends the scope of proposed anti-terror laws to help them prosecute
2271			illegal downloaders."
2272
2273			Bill Thompson at the BBC has some pertinent commentary:
2274
2275			"If they cannot come up with a business model which allows them to make
2276			profits without criminalising their customers, trampling over our civil
2277			liberties or installing malware on our computers then they do not deserve
2278			to stay in business, and new ways for artists to reach the public will
2279			have to emerge."
2280
2281			http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4469886.stm
2282	root	1.424	%
2283	root	1.425	>Damit dürftest du der zweite Mensch sein, den ich kenne, der sich mit
2284	root	1.391	>einer so spartanischen Hardwareausstattung zufrieden gibt:) Ich selbst
2285
2286			Mein Arbeitsplatz ist eine HP 715/80 - also 80 MHz. Da drauf laeuft der vi
2287			immer noch genauso schnell wie vor zehn Jahren :)
2288
2289			Bye, Andy
2290	root	1.424	%
2291	root	1.398	[ka.uni.rz.stud, warum bestimmte zeichen in passwörtern verboten sind]
2292	root	1.425	>einem Passwort nicht zulässt, das kann ich nachvollziehen, aber wieso ein
2293	root	1.390	>Dollarzeichen, Leerzeichen, Klammeraffe, Doppelkreuz, Prozent, doppelte
2294	root	1.425	>Anführungszeichen, Paragraph und was es da noch so alles gibt? Und wieso nur
2295	root	1.390
2296			Dollarzeichen: DCE kann nicht damit umgehen.
2297			Leerzeichen: sind nur am Anfang und Ende eines PW verboten - es gibt
2298			System, die das wegstrippen :(
2299			Klammeraffe: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Kill-Zeichen (stammt
2300			halt noch aus der Zeit, als Fernschreiber als I/O-Geraete benutzt
2301			wurde, und ein Fernschreiber, der druckt, kann per Definition kein
2302			Backspace o.ae. haben - Tipp-Ex-Baender waren nicht eingebaut :)
2303			- und es gibt eben noch Systeme, die zum lokalen Login diese STTY-
2304			Settings benutzen. Seit wir die VT100-Terminals abgebaut haben,
2305			ist das fuer Studenten weniger relevant, unser BV behandelt aber
2306			alle Benutzer.
2307			Doppelkreuz: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Erase-Zeichen
2308			Prozent: Mift, das hab' ich mir nicht aufgeschrieben, geht aber auch in
2309			irgendeinem System nicht. Vielleicht sollte man es mal wieder
2310			probieren (bis es knallt)?
2311			Doppelte Anfuehrungszeichen: Wurden von Radius als Begrenzer benutzt. Ja,
2312			der Radius-Server funktionierte nur mit Klartext-Passwoertern :(
2313			Ja, funktionierte, Vergangenheitsform, er ist jetzt endlich tot :)
2314			Ja, damit kann ich die doppelten Anfuehrungszeichen freigeben :)
2315			Paragraph: ist kein ASCII-Zeichen. Das kann die lustigsten Probleme geben,
2316			insbesondere wenn verschiedene encodings benutzt werden - IMHO gibt
2317			es auch Implementierungen, die das 8. Bit wegschneiden...
2318	root	1.424	%
2319	root	1.389	[subversion is just plain broken. I just lost all my local modifications, right?]
2320
2321			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2322			svn: Working copy '.' locked
2323			svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2324			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn cleanup
2325			svn: 'programs/mythlcd' is not a working copy directory
2326			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2327			svn: Working copy '.' locked
2328			svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2329			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn help cleanup
2330			cleanup: Recursively clean up the working copy, removing locks, resuming
2331			unfinished operations, etc.
2332			usage: cleanup [PATH...]
2333
2334			Valid options:
2335			--diff3-cmd arg : use ARG as merge command
2336			--config-dir arg : read user configuration files from directory ARG
2337
2338			[Thanks for the details. Not.]
2339	root	1.424	%
2340	root	1.388	But there's an observation I can't help doing: it seems to me that the
2341			ratio of increase in the complexity of (some aspects of) the language _is_
2342			_much_ _bigger_ than that in the functionality such complexity is supposed
2343			to provide.
2344			- perl6-language - michele dondi
2345	root	1.424	%
2346	root	1.386	[From: perl6-language]
2347
2348			The fact that there's not alot of active p5p'ers on this list should
2349			alarm people more.
2350
2351			-Nate
2352
2353			[...]
2354
2355			My take on that is that it is because Perl 6 is not a new version of
2356			Perl 5. I still think "Perl" is a misleading name, and mostly hurts the
2357			image of the language that is created here.
2358
2359			Juerd
2360
2361			[...]
2362
2363			(Oh, and that perl6 will never be able to upgrade my scripts that use
2364			'format', but I'm aware of the plan to make that `obsolete' as in: the
2365			perl526 translator will dump core on those)
2366
2367	root	1.432	--
2368	root	1.386	H.Merijn Brand
2369	root	1.387	%
2370	root	1.385	Die Firma Microsoft warnte asiatische Regierungen am Donnerstag,
2371	root	1.388	dass diese patentrechtlich verklagt werden könnten, wenn sie das
2372	root	1.385	Betriebssystem Linux anstelle von Microsoft's Windows-Software einsetzen.
2373			Nachrichtenagentur Reuters (18. November 2004)
2374	root	1.387	%
2375	root	1.384	[Come on, "kidtalk"???]
2376			http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx
2377	root	1.387	%
2378	root	1.383	[Priceless :)]
2379			http://www.scottmccloud.com/comics/icst/icst-6/icst-6-full.html
2380	root	1.387	%
2381	root	1.382	[http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/15/1312216&from=rss]
2382			>> I hate it whenever Word tries to encourage me not to use passive.
2383			[...]
2384			> Okay then, translate "The window has been broken" into active voice.
2385			"Windows is broken."
2386	root	1.387	%
2387	root	1.381	[Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon on the perl6-language list:]
2388			Removing features simply because their implementation is inconvenient
2389			is not The Perl Way. If it were, Perl 6 would be Java With Sigils.
2390	root	1.387	%
2391	root	1.380	[Incidentally, the USoA is one of the two countries on earth that insist
2392			on being able to kill their children legally]
2393			http://www.post-gazette.com/breaking/20040329pornp6.asp
2394	root	1.387	%
2395	root	1.379	[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test]
2396			The Miller test is the United States Supreme Court's test for determining
2397			whether speech or expression can be labeled obscene [...]
2398	root	1.387	%
2399	root	1.377	[http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050923-5346.html]
2400			"They find the anti-pornography crowd disturbing because they believe
2401			that policing pornography violates fundamental rights. This has become
2402			the dominant view in our society: As long as what I do doesn't harm you
2403			personally, I have a right to do it. It's a silly view and a view rejected
2404			by law enforcement policies all over the country."
2405	root	1.378	--
2406			"What we really need is less government and more common sense. The Bush
2407			administration thinks it can win the war in iraq, the war on terror, the
2408			war on drugs, and the war on smut while establishing a lunar colony and
2409			rebuilding New Orleans, all without raising taxes. He really needs a
2410			reality check. I can't believe that with all of this crap going on, Tom
2411			DeLay has the balls to claim that the republican party has eliminated
2412			wasteful government spending."
2413	root	1.387	%
2414	root	1.376	[Attaching 72lbs to spam-reply-envelopes is legal. Do it!]
2415			http://www.vertical-visions.com/_temp/postagepaid/index2.html
2416	root	1.387	%
2417	root	1.375	[Charley Tart on Consensus Trance: <SLAP> <SLAP> Wake up!]
2418			http://www.cantrip.org/charles_tart.html
2419	root	1.387	%
2420	root	1.375	["It's such a moving story, it must be true"]
2421			http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=246277
2422	root	1.387	%
2423	root	1.374	[Pencil Carving]
2424			http://www.infofreako.com/jad/enpitsu-e.html
2425	root	1.387	%
2426	root	1.374	[Copyright]
2427	root	1.373	http://www.bromsun.com/practice/copyrights/flowchart.html
2428	root	1.387	%
2429	root	1.372	[Die Wirtschaft befreit die Menschen von der Arbeit]
2430			http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/stz/page/detail.php/949236
2431	root	1.387	%
2432	root	1.432	23:10 <mmead> schmorp: A federal appeals court ruled today that the president can indefinitely detain a U.S. citizen
2433			captured on U.S. soil in the absence of criminal charges, holding that such authority is vital to protect the
2434	root	1.371	nation from terrorist attacks.
2435	root	1.432	23:10 <mmead> A congressional resolution after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks "provided the President all powers
2436			necessary and appropriate to protect American citizens from terrorist attacks by those who attacked the United
2437	root	1.371	States on Sept. 11,'' the decision said.
2438	root	1.432	23:10 <mmead> The decision by a three-judge panel was written by Judge J. Michael Luttig, who sources have said is under
2439			consideration by President Bush for nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court.
2440	root	1.387	%
2441	root	1.370	[Looks extreme]
2442			http://www.counterpunch.org/
2443	root	1.387	%
2444	root	1.369	[Some glimpse of what happened in New Orleans]
2445			"As we approached the bridge, armed Gretna sheriffs formed a line across the
2446			foot of the bridge. Before we were close enough to speak, they began firing
2447			their weapons over our heads."
2448			http://www.livejournal.com/users/malbec/1052572.html
2449	root	1.387	%
2450	root	1.368	[Global Average Temperature vs. Number of Pirates]
2451			http://www.sheise.de/files/PirateGraph.jpg
2452	root	1.387	%
2453	root	1.367	[http://www.fefe.de/nowindows/]
2454			Many people using Windows don't care about their freedom. They do care
2455			about quality software and for that reason try to replace all the user
2456			space software from Microsoft with better free alternatives. This is the
2457			sole reason for the existance of cygwin.
2458	root	1.387	%
2459	root	1.366	[http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/trusted_computing/20031001_tc.php]
2460	root	1.387	%
2461	root	1.366	The TCG has resisted defining "owner" for purposes of their spec, despite
2462			several requests for clarification.
2463
2464			Think of it this way: most computer-related "stuff" now has a "licensed,
2465			not sold" tag attached. Ask yourself again, then, who has ultimate control
2466			unter TCG definitions.
2467	root	1.387	%
2468	root	1.366	But rememer they aren't doing anything wrong and they aren't trying to
2469			force anything on you. It is all opt-in and you always get to set the
2470			policy on your computer. It's just that nothing works any more unless you
2471			do opt-in and you do set your policy exactly they way they tell you to.
2472	root	1.387	%
2473	root	1.366	It's not coercion. It's for security. It helps the economy. It thwarts
2474			terrorists. TPM gives flags to orphans if that's what it needs to do to
2475			get people on board.
2476			%
2477	root	1.365	To have a secure computer, you must download the latest
2478			patches. Therefore, you must upgrade to SP4, and therefore, you must
2479			accept the EULA that requires you to agree with Microsoft's proprietary
2480			DRM.
2481
2482			The end is near. Security patches will soon require your body to be
2483			injected with RFID. Surely, we are all doomed.
2484	root	1.387	%
2485	root	1.364	[http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/09/01/1419222.shtml?tid=172&tid=109]
2486			switch ($decade) {
2487			case "the 50's":
2488			s/the Boogyman/Communist agitators/g;
2489			break;
2490			case "the 60's":
2491			s/the Boogyman/acid-eating hippies/g;
2492			break;
2493			case "the 70's":
2494			s/the Boogyman/disco/g;
2495			break;
2496			case "the 80's":
2497			s/the Boogyman/mutual assured destruction (and Grenada!)/g;
2498			break;
2499			case "the 90's":
2500			s/the Boogyman/evil hackers and George Michael/g;
2501			break;
2502			case "the 00's":
2503			s/the Boogyman/terrorists/g;
2504			break;
2505			}
2506	root	1.387	%
2507	root	1.363	http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2005/08/curiosities-from-japans-porno-shops.html
2508
2509			"How fucking creepy is that? As you can see from the flyer included
2510			in the capsule (note the kiddie crayon font), the other toys in the
2511			assortment include little girls spreading their legs, little girls sucking
2512			suggestively on popsicles, and little girls dry-humping their teddy bears"
2513
2514			"Interestingly enough, none of the cans were very long - maybe six inches
2515			at the most. I was trying to avoid the whole Asian-men-have-small-penises
2516			thing, but they kind of handed it to me on a silver platter."
2517
2518			""Maybe I should just try it. Just see what it feels like..." I mean,
2519			why not, right? You know. Just for kicks, right? So you know what? I
2520			fucked it. Yeah. I fucked a plastic beer can. I fucked the shit out of
2521			that can. And you know what? It felt alright. It did the trick. That
2522			is, until it was all over. Until the moment after, when I was hit by a
2523			sobering freight train of humility, looking down at my dick stuck inside a
2524			latex vagina housed in a plastic beer can. Moments like that you start to
2525			question everything - "How the hell did it come to this? Who am I? What am
2526			I doing with my life?" I probably sat there for an hour, silently with my
2527			plastic lover, pondering my existence."
2528	root	1.387	%
2529	root	1.362	"The scholars of Islam, such as Malik, Ash-Shafi`i, Ahmad and Ishaaq said
2530			that (the person guilty of this crime) should be stoned, whether he is
2531			married or unmarried."
2532
2533			http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547102
2534			http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/02/Article01-0.shtml
2535			http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/07/Article02.shtml
2536			http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545556
2537			http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543324
2538	root	1.387	%
2539	root	1.362	http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503546996
2540
2541			[I like this comparison between of and watching television:]
2542			Your brother is not at all different from those who have been conditioned
2543			to fornicate, or commit theft or murder, or who have become addicted to
2544			watching pornography or even television for that matter. All of these
2545			are destructive habits that one learns through continuous exposure or
2546			conditioning.
2547
2548			[And this is religion at its best:]
2549			Let him continuously read, reflect and meditate on the verses of the
2550			Qur'an that deal with the punishment meted to the nation who practiced
2551			this abomination; let him also read the verses depicting hell fire.
2552	root	1.387	%
2553	root	1.361	[Racism]
2554			http://www.flickr.com/photos/firewall/38725768/
2555	root	1.387	%
2556	root	1.360	[A link, just a link]
2557			http://www.oilcrisis.com/
2558	root	1.387	%
2559	root	1.359	As you may have noticed, the HOWTO is getting stale, you can't subscribe to
2560			the mailinglist and a lot of messages sent to it aren't getting through.
2561
2562			I apologise for this.
2563
2564			If all goes well I'll get my driver's license this Tuesday, which will allow
2565			me to visit the server, which I can't easily reach right now.
2566	root	1.387	%
2567	root	1.358	PSYC @> el says: von java bekommt man krebs
2568			induktiv says: java is ein riesiger marketing misthaufen voll mit code von uebereifrigen fh-programmierern
2569			el says: ich kenn da wen
2570			el says: bei dem wars so
2571			[...]
2572			PSYC @> el says: und.. naja, der hat also ganz viel java programmiert
2573			el says: und bekam augenkrebs
2574			el says: gehirntumor auch
2575			el says: ich weiss nicht, was vorher da war
2576	root	1.387	%
2577	root	1.357	wget http://el.l.tobij.de/ratz.jpg && xsetbg ratz.jpg
2578	root	1.387	%
2579	root	1.356	[in a reply to a school work assignment about proving why env vars make
2580			no sense in the kernel]
2581			From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
2582
2583			[...]
2584
2585			Mathematical proofs are accomplished within a framework of mathematical
2586			models.
2587
2588			In the postmodern time period and we gave up belief that the mathematical
2589			models are an accurate representation of reality. We only expect that
2590			they are sufficiently accurate for the purposes at hand.
2591	root	1.387	%
2592	root	1.354	[such nice quotes from http://theinquirer.net/?article=24638]
2593			There will be EF devices, EF branded content and probably EF branded
2594			contraceptives to use while watching EF branded porn.
2595			--
2596			Any DRM on a machine is simply a sign of failure.
2597	root	1.355	--
2598			This crushing DRM that is being foisted upon you is the surest sign that
2599			you don't want this product, and you will be paying too much for it. Don't
2600			like that? Bought legislators are hard at work making sure you will go to
2601			jail if you try to exercise your rights on the issue.
2602	root	1.387	%
2603	root	1.353	An absolutely fascinating interview with Robert Pape, a University of
2604			Chicago professor who has studied every suicide terrorist attack since
2605			1980. "The central fact is that overwhelmingly suicide-terrorist
2606			attacks are not driven by religion as much as they are by a clear
2607			strategic objective: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military
2608			forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland."
2609			<http://www.amconmag.com/2005_07_18/article.html>
2610			[From: CRYPTO-GRAM 2005-08-15]
2611	root	1.387	%
2612	root	1.352	[If you are a US citizen, you might want to fight for the right to vote,
2613			which you currently do not posess]
2614			http://reclaimdemocracy.org/political_reform/right_to_vote.html
2615	root	1.387	%
2616	root	1.388	Kind: "Daad! Die alten Griechen mußten 44 Arten der Selbstverteidigung lernen, ohne Waffen!"
2617			Vater: "Dafür haben wir eine zweistufige elektrische Heckenschere."
2618	root	1.351	[Nach: Time Bandits]
2619	root	1.387	%
2620	root	1.350	http://www.cpmission.com/main/painpolitics/mdjackson.html
2621	root	1.387	%
2622	root	1.349	Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off
2623			a horse.." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse.."
2624	root	1.387	%
2625	root	1.432	Tcl is LISP on drugs. Using strings instead of S-expressions for closures
2626			is Evil with one of those gigantic E's you can find at the beginning of
2627			paragraphs.
2628	root	1.387	%
2629	root	1.347	[the average IQ seems to be declining]
2630			http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000953.html
2631			http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/
2632	root	1.387	%
2633	root	1.346	[http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/07/31/0626257.shtml?tid=153&tid=98&tid=95&tid=103&tid=219]
2634			> If you know anything, most catholics register as democrats
2635
2636			Most catholics aren't American.
2637	root	1.387	%
2638	root	1.345	[Some things possibly cannot exist...]
2639
2640			[http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/depleted-uranium.html]
2641			In NEWS1920, we demonstrated how America's widespread usage of Depleted
2642			Uranium munitions is fulfilling the prophetic End of the Age prophecy
2643			against Babylon (Iraq). Now, we examine how our D.U. is quite possibly
2644			fulfilling another major prophecy: Revelation 6:3-4
2645
2646			[http://cuttingedge.org/detail.cfm?ID=939]
2647			How Mormon Temples Are Built To Be Demon Magnets
2648	root	1.387	%
2649	root	1.344	[http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/23/egypt.explosions/index.html]
2650			Asked whether he thought the blasts might be related to Islam, he
2651			replied, "What Islam? This terrorism has nothing to do with any religion,
2652			because all religions do not allow aggression and do not allow killing
2653			civilians in innocence. Those don't belong to Muslims. They are a gang of
2654			criminals."
2655	root	1.387	%
2656	root	1.343	The Black Hole in the Galactic Center
2657			[http://www.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de/staff/hfalcke/bh/sld1.html]
2658	root	1.387	%
2659	root	1.342	To me anything above 30 fps is good and 45-50 is amazing... 75 is more
2660			than I've seen lol. Then again I come from a mac
2661	root	1.387	%
2662	root	1.341	[There are things the US congress can do that were far beyond my imagination]
2663			http://reason.com/rauch/99_08_07.shtml
2664	root	1.387	%
2665	root	1.340	The MSI MS-9130 (K8T Master2-FAR) is an excellent board. The only problem
2666			I had was with my video card shorting out and frying both the board and
2667			card (They went up in flames).
2668	root	1.387	%
2669	root	1.432	05:46 <mmead> AP and UPI reported that the French government announced yesterday that
2670			it has raised its terror alert level from "run" to "hide." The only two
2671			higher levels in France are "surrender" and "collaborate." The action
2672			was precipitated by the recent fire which destroyed one of France's
2673	root	1.338	white flag factories, disabling their military.
2674	root	1.432	05:47 <mmead> it's obviously been recirculated recently:
2675	root	1.339	http://www.edthibodeau.com/nonplussed/2004/10/french_terror_a.html
2676	root	1.387	%
2677	root	1.337	[The following quote from a NASA press release shows impressively how much
2678			we know. And more importantly, how to build up scientific knowledge part
2679			by part. "Knowledge" always has a margin-of-error inherently attached to it.]
2680
2681			"The cloud indicated the comet is covered in the powdery stuff."
2682
2683			[http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/text/di_pr_20050708.txt]
2684	root	1.387	%
2685	root	1.336	[http://www.skippy.net/blog/2005/06/09/security-through-stupidity/]
2686			Silly questions abound, all to cover people's butts. When I moved to
2687			the US in 1992 (from Canada), one of the questions on my green card
2688			application was "Do you, or any member of your immediate family, plan to
2689			violently overthrow the government of the United States or assasinate any
2690			elected official?" Not only did they have checkboxes for "yes" and "no",
2691			but they had a blank space labelled, "If you checked 'yes', please provide
2692			a detailed explanation in the space below." I never figured out what kind
2693			of explanation would make them give you a green card anyway.
2694			--
2695			Hasbro should ask the same. Teddy Ruxpin chips were found on a number
2696			of landmines during the first gulf war... First, we just thought these
2697			people REALLY hate Teddy Ruxpin, maybe we're not so different after all...
2698			but on further investigation, Ruxpin had easily-programmable EEPROMs, so
2699			the Ruxpin chip was actually being repurposed as a controller for the
2700			explosives. They were jackin' overseas deliveries to get the Ruxpins.
2701	root	1.387	%
2702	root	1.335	http://graphics.stanford.edu/~danielrh/vote/vote.html
2703			The Obfuscated V contest
2704	root	1.387	%
2705	root	1.335	Airplane security is getting surreal: "...FAA regulation that requires
2706			soldiers -- all of whom were armed with an arsenal of assault rifles,
2707			shotguns and pistols -- to surrender pocket knives, nose hair scissors and
2708			cigarette lighters."
2709			http://tinyurl.com/7z8my
2710	root	1.387	%
2711	root	1.334	<http://babygimp.sourceforge.net/>
2712			Does it run under Windows ?
2713			- Who cares?
2714	root	1.387	%
2715	root	1.333	[Can hot water freeze faster than cold water?]
2716	root	1.332	http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html
2717	root	1.387	%
2718	root	1.331	http://www.physik3.gwdg.de/~rgeisle/nld/sbsl-howto.html
2719			Single Bubble Sonoluminescence HOWTO
2720			[...]
2721			Don't bother me with "my bottle exploded, what was wrong?"-stuff; While the bottle is heated it mustn't be closed!
2722			[...]
2723			Darken your room completely. Adapt your eyes, which may take 15 minutes up
2724			to half an hour. Look at the flask or at least where you think your flask
2725			is (remember: the room is completely darkened).
2726	root	1.387	%
2727	root	1.329	[de.alt.ufo]
2728	root	1.432	> Ja, stimmt - ich hatte mich früher viel mit Leuten beschäftigt, die
2729			> wahrscheinlich entführt wurden, oder bei denen es den Anschein hatte. Im
2730			> Moment beschäftige ich mich mit der Konstruktion eines kleinen UFO-
2731	root	1.388	> Detektors, der die UFO- Ereignisse auch zählt.-
2732	root	1.330	> www.ufo-finder.de
2733	root	1.432	> Aber Feld-Forscher bin ich deshalb noch nicht. Das geht gesundheitlich nicht
2734	root	1.330	> mehr!
2735			> richy.
2736
2737			Und es gibt wirklich Deppen, die sich von dir abzocken lassen??
2738	root	1.387	%
2739	root	1.330	[de.alt.ufo]
2740	root	1.329	> Wie kann ich online etwas belegen, das sich in der Vergangenheit
2741			> zugetragen hat?
2742
2743			Das solltest Du Dich selbst mal fragen. Wenn Du es nicht belegen kannst,
2744			warum behauptest Du es dann?
2745	root	1.388	[später]
2746			> Ach, wenn es interessant wird, umfängt Dich Faulheit?
2747	root	1.329
2748			Bei dir ist das angemessen, du hast deinen Ruf weg.
2749			Du plapperst immer nur von Belegen, verlangst letzten Endes
2750			naturwissenschaftliche/physikalische Beweise (genaugenommen:
2751			ein Alien-craft zum Vorfuehren), darunter akzeptierst du nichts,
2752			aber das stellt sich erst nach ellenlangen threads heraus.
2753
2754			Aber das ist bekannt, und eigentlich belanglos.
2755
2756			Wer sich auf Debatten mit dir einlaesst und Argumente erwartet
2757			von jemand, der die Wissenschaft zur Ersatzreligion verquast,
2758			ist eigentlich selbst schuld.
2759	root	1.387	%
2760	root	1.388	[de.alt.ufo, über einen www.rtl.de-news-Artikel]
2761	root	1.328	Wie die Skepsos so schoen sagen: der Verfasser von dem Quark war so offen,
2762			dem ist das Gehirn rausgefallen.
2763	root	1.387	%
2764	root	1.327	[res_nsend.c]
2765			/* give the hook another try */
2766			if (++loops < 42) /doug adams/
2767			break;
2768	root	1.387	%
2769	root	1.326	[sr_port/mdq.h]
2770	root	1.432	/* Insert a doubly-linked list of elements from "n->q.fl" to "n->q.bl"
2771	root	1.326	in between "o" and "o->q.fl" */
2772			#define dqadd(o,n,q) ((o)->q.fl->q.bl=(n)->q.bl,(n)->q.bl->q.fl=(o)->q.fl,(o)->q.fl=(n)->q.fl,(n)->q.fl->q.bl=(o))
2773	root	1.387	%
2774	root	1.325	Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
2775	root	1.387	%
2776	root	1.324	* Andreas Waechter <mail@andreas-waechter.de> [06-25-05 00:58]:
2777	root	1.432	> No, Thunderbird should not "reply" to the list with the
2778	root	1.324	> current settings of the list.
2779	root	1.432	>
2780			> There is no "Reply-To" header, thus a "Reply" has to go to
2781			> the address in the "From" header - which is the address of
2782	root	1.324	> the original sender, not the list.
2783	root	1.432	>
2784			> The List address is in the "To" field. Thus only a "Reply
2785			> All" will go to the list as CC (and to the original sender
2786	root	1.324	> as TO).
2787	root	1.432	>
2788	root	1.324	> Don't blame my mail client for the set-up of the list.
2789
2790			Your mail client is not being blamed. It is your
2791			responsibility. No one disputes your choice of mail client, but it
2792			is your responsibility to see that your posts are properly
2793			addressed to the list, not the list's software or the people you are
2794			being discourteous to.
2795
2796			The fault is all yours. It is/was your choice.
2797			--
2798			Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535
2799	root	1.387	%
2800	root	1.323	[http://www.heise.de/ct/00/20/104/]
2801	root	1.388	"Sie können mit falschen Tatsachen Leute überzeugen, das ist nun mal so."
2802	root	1.387	%
2803	root	1.322	An appeals court in Minnesota has ruled that the presence of encryption
2804			software [PGP] on a computer may be viewed as evidence of criminal intent.
2805			http://www.granick.com/archive/2005_05_01_theshout_archive.html#1117581
2806			http://news.com.com/Minnesota+court+takes+dim+view+of+encryption/2100-1030_3-5718978.html
2807			http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/archive/ctappub/0505/opa040381-0503.htm
2808	root	1.387	%
2809	root	1.322	[http://www.komotv.com/stories/37150.htm]
2810			"They said 'no' and they said it's a national security issue. And I said
2811			what about my constitutional rights? And they said 'not at this point ...
2812			you don't have any'."
2813	root	1.323
2814			[I also am very fond of this quote:]
2815			"My concern is that if that's the way they're treating American citizens I
2816			would hate to think how they're treating other people. It's crazy."
2817			[Don't they have _any_ ethics?? What about equality? Ah well, I forgot...]
2818	root	1.387	%
2819	root	1.321	[http://wiki.ffii.org/CampIcecream050601En]
2820			Yes its true! If you go down to Place du Luxembourg from now until
2821			3pm, you can collect your free icecream and support the Computer
2822			Implemented Inventions Common Position!
2823	root	1.387	%
2824	root	1.319	[http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation/algorithm/upconversion/index.htm]
2825			The change from Blitz to standard arrays had little effect on the
2826			execution time so I stuck with the standard type. The standard arrays
2827			should be more acceptable to developers who want to modify the code.
2828			Insisting that the developer use a certain array container for no good
2829			reason will not win many fans.
2830
2831			[http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation.html has other nice
2832			documents in the algorithm section]
2833	root	1.387	%
2834	root	1.318	["Blue in the Face"]
2835			Ich kriege in New York keine Angst, nein... aber in Schweden...da isses
2836			irgendwie so leer und da sind alle betrunken... und alles funktioniert...
2837			und, naja, wnen du an einer roten Ampel den motor nicht abstellst, reden
2838			die leute mit dir.... die zeigen da im fernsehen ohrenoperationen...
2839
2840			Solche dinge machen mir Angst... nicht New York.
2841	root	1.387	%
2842	root	1.317	And before I forget it, readers fascinated by the idea of Central
2843			Europeans using A6 as a toilet paper size might also be interested to hear
2844			that the U.S. have for the same application field a standard square format
2845	root	1.388	of 4.5×4.5 in = 114×114 mm, which is for instance documented in New Jersey
2846	root	1.317	Specification No. 7572-01 (May 1997), section 2.3.
2847			[http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html]
2848	root	1.387	%
2849	root	1.316	[Better know what they actually do...]
2850	root	1.388	[Technische Richtlinie / Telekommunikationsüberwachung]
2851	root	1.316	http://www.regtp.de/imperia/md/content/tech_reg_t/ueberwachu/TR_TKUE_Ausgabe_4.1_29-11-2004.pdf
2852	root	1.315	[RFC3924 Cisco Architecture for Lawful Intercept in IP Networks]
2853			ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3924.txt
2854	root	1.387	%
2855	root	1.314	[rfc4096]
2856			The FTC called a summit of leading thinkers, and the regulation was
2857			amended to read "but don't use languages that go from right to left
2858			or up and down instead of plain old left to right." Needless to say,
2859			the reaction from the Freedonian League for the Defense of Linguistic
2860			Diversity killed that proposed regulation really quickly.
2861	root	1.387	%
2862	root	1.313	[just a really nice md5sum]
2863			99421268df476006401f11f96b655248
2864	root	1.387	%
2865	root	1.312	[a comment in some g729 sample implementation]
2866	root	1.432	* For G.729(,A,B) royalty payments, see http://www.sipro.com
2867	root	1.312	* WARNING: please make sure you are sitting down before looking
2868			* at their price list.
2869	root	1.387	%
2870	root	1.311	[http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=139347&cid=11665921]
2871			You'd think I was overgeneralizing, but I'm not. Absolutely every single
2872			time I see HN in use, I quickly end up learning that the programmer who
2873			wrote the code was an idiot. On at least two separate occasions, I've
2874			had to correct C code with HN that did not allocate space for the null
2875			terminator on any strings anywhere in the code. That's pretty much the
2876			level of programming talent you can expect when you see HN in use.
2877	root	1.387	%
2878	root	1.309	21:22 <mmead> tiger's SMB support is fucking broken
2879			21:26 <oesi> mmead: when you grow up, you will substitute "'s SMB support" by "" :)
2880	root	1.387	%
2881	root	1.308	03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> ich dachte immer alle beinhaltet mehr als 1
2882			03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> aba naja
2883			03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <oesi> nein, viele beinhaltet mehr als 1
2884			03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <bani_> stimmt auch wieder
2885	root	1.387	%
2886	root	1.319	[ein so gut geschriebenes dokument erwartet man eigentlich nicht mal vom BSI]
2887	root	1.307	http://www.bsi.bund.de/literat/studien/antispam/antispam.pdf
2888	root	1.387	%
2889	root	1.306	[some SPAM]
2890			Freie Geschlechtabbildungen und -filme. Und Phasennetznocken
2891	root	1.387	%
2892	root	1.305	cowsay -f head-in oink \| cowthink -n -f sodomized
2893	root	1.387	%
2894	root	1.304	[star wars episode guide]
2895			1 =Epichode 1: The Phantom Grimace
2896			2 =Epichode 2: Attack of the Groans
2897			3 =Epichode 3: Revenge of the Shit
2898			4 = Episode 4: A New Hope
2899			5 = Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back(By far the best Star Wars film. One of the finest movies ever made.)
2900			6 = Episode 6: Return of the Jedi(would have been a thousand times cooler if the ewoks had been Wookies).
2901			[http://www.beggingtodiffer.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=pp;action=display;num=1113843411]
2902	root	1.387	%
2903	root	1.300	[God knows his enemies]
2904			http://sheise.de/files/GODvsBUSH.gif
2905	root	1.302	[Uh-oh, "se germans are next"]
2906	root	1.303	http://sheise.de/files/cnn_iraq.jpg [a fake, but nevertheless]
2907	root	1.387	%
2908	root	1.299	http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054743/
2909	root	1.301	[Why is it that every good Hollywood movie is at least 30+ years old?]
2910	root	1.387	%
2911	root	1.298	[http://www.bildblog.de/]
2912	root	1.388	Die "Bild"-Zeitung schreibt Blödsinn, und alle schreiben's ab. Die
2913			rührende Geschichte von den "Unfallforschern", die angeblich "ermittelt"
2914			hätten, was doch nur eine schlichte Umrechnung von Stundenkilometern in
2915	root	1.298	Meter pro Sekunde ist, zieht Kreise.
2916
2917			Nachrichtenagentur ddp, 3. Mai, 03:16 Uhr:
2918
2919			Laut "Bild" ermittelten Unfallforscher, dass ein Auto bei einer
2920			Geschwindigkeit von 50 Kilometern pro Stunde etwa 14 Meter pro Sekunde
2921	root	1.388	ungebremst weiterfährt, während der Fahrer nach einer fallengelassenen
2922	root	1.298	Zigarette sucht.
2923
2924			Nachrichtenagentur AFP, 3. Mai, 04:25 Uhr:
2925
2926			[usw.]
2927
2928			Bei "Stern Online" ist aus den "Unfallforschern" schon eine ganze "Studie"
2929	root	1.388	geworden, die plötzlich zu Ergebnissen kommt, die nur scheinbar mit den
2930	root	1.298	bekannten "Ermittlungen" identisch sind:
2931
2932			Nach Auffassung des SPD-Verkehrsexperten Peter Danckert kann eine
2933			brennende Zigarette den Fahrer jedoch ebenso wie ein klingelndes
2934			Telefon ablenken. Er verwies auf eine Studie, nach der ein 50
2935			Stundenkilometer schnelles Auto mindestens 14 Meter weiterrolle, wenn
2936			der Fahrer nach einer Zigarette sucht.
2937	root	1.387	%
2938	root	1.388	[schlimmer als de.alt.ufo, schlimmer als jede Verarschung sein könnte...]
2939	root	1.297	http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2005/01/22/sonne__boese/sonne__boese.html
2940			http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2004/12/28/seebeben/zerreisst__unsere__erde.html
2941	root	1.387	%
2942	root	1.296	[http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=147629&cid=12370229]
2943			Which fanboy are you?
2944
2945			1. Windows
2946
2947			You wear wraparound sunglasses, even indoors. You wish your mother
2948			would let you ride a motorbike. You tell your friends you're pulling
2949			in $50,000 a year and $2,000 a month "playing the stock market" but
2950			in reality you're only bringing in half that and your dividends from
2951			MSFT havn't been good in years. Your non computing friends all turn
2952			to you for help; you only charge $30 an hour. Your collegues talk
2953			about you behind your back. Your workplace nickname is likely to be
2954			"The Asshole". Unlike the Linux fanboys, you actually try to pick up
2955			dates in bars but women laugh at you.
2956
2957			2. Apple
2958
2959			You think you're so cool you hurt. You have mirrors on every wall
2960			in your "loft apartment", which is really a grimy little apartment
2961			next to a guy who plays Guns 'n Roses at 3am. All of your furniture
2962			is from Ikea. You sometimes think that changing your name to "Steve"
2963			would be "pretty cool". When you go to bars you only drink Miller
2964			Lite. No body ever asks you for help with their computers because
2965			they know you don't know anything but OS X, even if you do tell them
2966			you "run Unix" now. Your friends openly laugh at you.
2967
2968			3. Linspire
2969
2970			You regularly give $10 bills to homeless guys because you have
2971			too much money. Computers baffle you, but you enjoy looking at
2972			pictures of naked women. You don't know what Linux is, but you
2973			continually bugged the IT guy at work about your computer so he
2974			installed Linspire on your machine.
2975
2976			4. Umbongo
2977
2978			You shop at GAP. You probably used to use a Mac. When you saw the
2979			multiracial image used as a desktop picture and heard that this
2980			operating system came from the same country as Nelson Mandela, you
2981			knew it was for you. You meet with your friends in fair-trade coffee
2982			houses and talk about the eventual overthrow of evil corporations
2983			such as Microsoft and Starbucks. Like the Linspire user, you have
2984			very little real knowlege when it comes to computers but you would
2985			never use your computer to look at pictures of women degrading
2986			themselves.
2987
2988			5. Gentoy
2989
2990			You've been "into computers" for ohh, one or two years now and fancy
2991			yourself as "a bit of a hacker". Wouldn't know C from C++, or even
2992			Perl for that matter. Older Gentoy users may be building their homes
2993			from matchsticks. You've explained to all your friends that your
2994			matchstick house will have an "optimised floorplan". They've tried
2995			to tell you that your house violates every known building code and
2996			law in your area, but you've ignored them so far because you can't
2997			read those complicated regulatory documents.
2998
2999			6. Linux From Scratch
3000
3001			Much like the Gentoy user but you'd also be into sadomasochistic
3002			sex if you could get it. You're not just building a house from
3003			matchsticks, you're planing to grow the trees to make the
3004			matchsticks. You've cleared some land but don't know what to do next
3005			because you havn't read the books you've got, so you've posted to
3006			alt.arborists.newbie asking for help. It's been three days so far
3007			and no one has replied. You remain hopeful.
3008	root	1.387	%
3009	root	1.295	[/usr/bin/cowsay]
3010			if (($^O eq "MSWin32") or ($^O eq "Windows_NT")) { ## Many perls, eek!
3011	root	1.387	%
3012	root	1.294	[A few days after the 6.0.9 release announcement]
3013
3014			In the spirit of release early, release often.... Err no, actually more
3015			in the spirit of, let's not try to lose data during file resolution...
3016
3017			Coda 6.0.10 is out
3018	root	1.387	%
3019	root	1.293	<opine@orifice2.com> wrote:
3020
3021			> > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:55:28 -0800, CrabRangoon wrote
3022	root	1.432	>
3023	root	1.388	> > Meine Großmutter hat einen kleinen Hinterhof und sie benutzt selten die
3024	root	1.293	> > Dusche. Bei vielen Gelegenheiten habe ich mehr als 4
3025	root	1.388	> > Lebensmittelgeschäftspeicher-Versorgungsmaterialien Sellerie an einem
3026			> > einzelnen Tag verbraucht. Würde es irgendein Benzin unter meiner Couch
3027			> > geben, wenn ich meine Hose bügelte?
3028	root	1.432	>
3029			> What does your granny's tiny ass have to do with this group? Other than the
3030	root	1.293	> smell attracting flies of course...
3031	root	1.432	>
3032	root	1.293	I figured a little non-native tongued nonsense would help keep this
3033			request near the top of the group. thanks for playing along.
3034	root	1.388	cheers and Haben Sie eine glückliche Karotte
3035	root	1.387	%
3036	root	1.432	00:24 <elmex> ich bin ja nur ein dummer niedersachse, der kaum was in der schule hatte
3037	root	1.387	%
3038	root	1.291	War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. -Ambrose Bierce
3039	root	1.387	%
3040	root	1.290	98% of the time I am right. Why worry about the other 3%.
3041	root	1.387	%
3042	root	1.289	[Bertram van Munster, Jerry Bruckheimers partner, interviewed in the BBC
3043			show "Correspondent"]
3044	root	1.288
3045			[...] I do reality television, and I've done this for many many many
3046			years, long before even anybody knew what reality was.
3047
3048			[so know we know who creates reality now]
3049			%
3050	root	1.287	[from wordnet]
3051			cock sucking, blowjob
3052			=> fellatio, fellation
3053			=> oral sex, head
3054			=> perversion, sexual perversion
3055			=> sexual activity, sexual practice, sex, sex activity
3056			=> bodily process, body process, bodily function, activity
3057			=> organic process, biological process
3058			=> process
3059			=> phenomenon
3060	root	1.387	%
3061	root	1.286	10:41 <oesi> [0]--(10:40:39)-(root@km)-(~/xxml)-> file tmon.out
3062			10:41 <oesi> tmon.out: ASCII Java program text
3063	root	1.387	%
3064	root	1.285	[SSK@J3GtFnEi8b~ko6mGvvXdrQoZ3D4PAgM,hhWspr43hLbvnrlkwxtDLg/ABC_NoJail/2//]
3065			[slightly edited]
3066			Largest prison population in the world is in the United States of America
3067			(in 2000: 2,071,686 persons, 22% of world prison population), it has more
3068			than double the prison population of Russia or China. What that means is
3069			that in USA 1 out of 143 residents are incarcerated.
3070
3071			About 88% of USA prison population is male, but female population is
3072			sharply on the rise, and might soon reach that of males, due mostly to new
3073			laws on terrorism and drugs.
3074
3075			Out of all the black males between 20 and 39, 12% are in custody (anybody
3076			told them about emancipation proclamation?).
3077	root	1.387	%
3078	root	1.284	"Begehe nur nicht den Fehler, Meinung durch Sachverstand zu substituieren."
3079			(PLemken, <bu6o7e$e6v0p$2@ID-31.news.uni-berlin.de>)
3080	root	1.387	%
3081	root	1.283	Mail::Box - 700MB of RSS to open a 30MB mail folder, one half of the
3082	root	1.282	advertised features doesn't work, while the other half is just buggy.
3083	root	1.387	%
3084	root	1.281	A ship is safe in harbor, but that is not what ships are built for.
3085	root	1.432	I learned that some cops lie. This was a brutal and profoundly disturbing
3086			realization: Those in control are not necessarily trustworthy.
3087	root	1.281	- Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
3088	root	1.387	%
3089	root	1.279	"parrot - from the people who brought you ithreads"
3090			- oesi
3091	root	1.387	%
3092	root	1.278	[US, Metric]
3093			http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/usmetric.html
3094	root	1.387	%
3095	root	1.432	[http://use.perl.org/~scrottie/journal]
3096	root	1.277	[I agree with that very much, most of his blog is really interesting]
3097	root	1.275	Sunday February 20, 2005 07:18 AM
3098			Minions Wanted [ 0 Comments \| #23269 ]
3099
3100			It's been about 10 years since I've had minions. They've all grown up,
3101			started painfully profitable companies, and now hob-knob whose-who of
3102			important and influential figures of their field. I'm growing old and
3103			increasinly mal-adapted to normal life. It's no longer becoming for me
3104			to leave my lair nor speak on the phone. I've reflected on making this
3105			post, and I've reflected at great length. Minions aren't what they used
3106			to be. Minions now days are soft and weak willed. In the old days, it was
3107			that minions would realize they can wield power if they're willing to
3108			spend a time subserviant to someone capable of teaching. Now days, kids
3109			have this notion that money only comes from the parents, power comes from
3110			your social (gag) circles, and glory comes from the things you own. They
3111			seek answers to Perl questions only for immediate gradification, not to
3112			truly master an insidious tactic and become a potent force. Kids now
3113			days, not nearly robust enough to be considered minion material. They,for
3114			their entire life, questioninglessly slide into being slaves of much
3115			more powerful overlords. They accept as payment for their servatude a
3116			few measily tens of thousands of dollars, and then only paid in payments
3117			yearly, calling that close enough to world domination, and inexchange
3118			for that paultry fee, deliver one after another innocent to the hands of
3119			Bill Gates, telling the clients they betray that Microsoft Windows is a
3120			servicable operating system and a supportable platform. While it is truly
3121			becoming to serve on the side of Microsoft, it is also well known the
3122			ranks are thin at the top but wide at the bottom, and few ever move past
3123			petty explotation of businesses and moronic home users.
3124
3125			This is not the stock I seek. These so short-sightedly driven by greed,
3126			rather than lusting for true power, amount to little more than orcs - a
3127			fodder of little use except as "consumers" in this modern age. It is far
3128			more becoming to hope to some day aspire to be an overlord of some small
3129			repute yourself and initially forego payment.
3130
3131			Minions in my service will be expected to endure maindane business-related
3132			tasks, such as answering the phone, but will always be allowed the
3133			basic dignity of being able to tell clients to "fuck off" when
3134			appropriate. Retaining dignity does not relieve the necessities of
3135			subordination, however. My minions may seek clarification but will never
3136			question me. For the term of their indenture, they will accept my teaching
3137			as truth itself. They will not seek short-cuts where I say there are none,
3138			and if I later reveal short-cuts, they will know it was because they were
3139			not yet ready before. While my young troglodytes will doubtless enterain
3140			perversion and drug abuse in their free time, they will go for the want of
3141			the very necessities of life should urgant cause arise.
3142
3143			In exchange, they will be tutored on the basic elements of evil and Perl
3144			programming and will share in the spoils of an insideous plot I've hatched
3145			some time ago to dupe large numbers of people out of money by playing on
3146			their greed and fear. Of course, in the interest of avoiding indictment
3147			myself, the details of the plot can never be revealed, but a clever
3148			student will quickly ascertain the nature of the ploy. After thier period
3149			of endenture, minions will have developed an eye for exploitation and
3150			trickery, but most importantly will have developed a deeper understanding
3151			of how things work - both in Perl and in the real world. They will see
3152			everything about them as quite potentially theirs - no program must go
3153			unwritten, and persuent to Free Trade Agreements, they will be as a
3154			sovereign nation.
3155
3156			While the offer is valid, this is a draft for a post on
3157			jobs.perl.org. Feedback is welcome - unless you're stupid, then stay the
3158			hell off my blog. Time and time again I forget both the power of TV to
3159			sap intelligence and the very prevelence of the thing. So let this be a
3160			test: if you watch more than half an hour a day of any programming besides
3161			CSPAN, don't post here.
3162
3163			-scott
3164	root	1.387	%
3165	root	1.274	But Mike Loughlin, who studied the boiling of lobsters when he was a
3166			University of Maine graduate student, said lobsters simply lack the brain
3167			capacity to feel pain.
3168
3169			"It's a semantic thing: No brain, no pain," said Loughlin, who now works
3170			as a biologist at the Maine Atlantic Salmon Commission.
3171	root	1.387	%
3172	root	1.273	Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp contextual F1 help & Crimson Editor in Windows
3173			From: Sven Neumann
3174
3175			Hi,
3176
3177	root	1.388	Rubén de Diego Martínez writes:
3178	root	1.432	> I also think that it's a bug. How may I report-it?
3179	root	1.273
3180			Go to http://support.microsoft.com/support/feedback/ and tell them
3181			that
3182
3183			ShellExecute (HWND_DESKTOP, "open", uri, NULL, NULL, SW_SHOWNORMAL);
3184
3185			does not do what you would expect it to do.
3186	root	1.387	%
3187	root	1.271	http://www.syslog.com/~jwilson/pics-i-like/kurios119.jpg
3188	root	1.272	the original comment says:
3189			This is probably part of an elaborate IQ test.
3190			Waiting at the gate means you fail.
3191	root	1.387	%
3192	root	1.271	{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} ich mir eine kolaflasche reingeschioebn
3193			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und dann ist meine klitoris erissen
3194			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und ich musste ins krankenhaus
3195			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} oh sorry, falsches fenster
3196			{Flat eric:Net-Knuddels} aja
3197			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} hi :)
3198	root	1.387	%
3199	root	1.275	[Java, like Delphi, requires manual destruction. Obvious, but still
3200	root	1.270	interesting read]
3201			http://www.octopull.demon.co.uk/java/ImmortalityAtaPrice.html
3202	root	1.387	%
3203	root	1.269	[Obscure Algorithms, just for my reference]
3204			http://aggregate.org/MAGIC/
3205			http://www.hackersdelight.org/HDcode.htm
3206	root	1.387	%
3207	root	1.268	In Los Angeles, the "HOLLYWOOD" sign is protected by a fence and a locked
3208			gate. Because several different agencies need access to the sign for
3209			various purposes, the chain locking the gate is formed by several locks
3210			linked together. Each of the agencies has the key to its own lock, and not
3211			the key to any of the others. Of course, anyone who can open one of the
3212			locks can open the gate.
3213
3214			This is a nice example of a multiple-user access-control system. It's
3215			simple, and it works. You can also make it as complicated as you want,
3216			with different locks in parallel and in series.
3217	root	1.387	%
3218	root	1.267	http://www.crypto.com/papers/safelocks.pdf
3219			Safecracking for the computer scientist
3220	root	1.387	%
3221	root	1.265	Fact: Something that you observe to be true.
3222
3223			Fact #1: when you drop a hammer, it falls to the ground
3224
3225			Fact #2: a genetic sequence can change sufficiently to form a new
3226			species. Speciation has been observed more than once in the laboratory
3227			and in the wild, so this is a fact. Since we call this process
3228			'evolution', that means evolution is a fact. Keep reading for more
3229			explanation of this.
3230
3231			Theory: An explanation of an observation
3232
3233			Theory #1: The theory of gravity is understood as a curvature in space,
3234			which explains why the hammer falls.
3235
3236			Theory #2: The Theory of Evolution through Natural Selection explains
3237			how a population's genome can change over time.
3238
3239	root	1.266	Law: Not really related to any of the other definitions. It's just a
3240			mathematical relationship between two values.
3241	root	1.265
3242			Law #1: If you double the distance from a source of light, the
3243			brightness falls off proportionally to the square of the distance.
3244
3245			Law #2: (expressed as a formula) F=ma. Force equals mass times
3246			acceleration.
3247
3248			Please note that Evolution is a fact, and the theory is called the Theory
3249			of Evolution through Natural Selection. There are other theories of
3250			evolution, which have been disproved. A famous one is the theory of
3251			evolution through acquired characteristics, also known as Lamarkian
3252			evolution. It posited that species evolve by acquiring and retaining
3253			useful characteristics through use. Therefore, a giraffe would have
3254			longer necks if the previous generations stretched their necks to reach
3255			high leaves. This was the main theory that Darwin and others showed to be
3256			false.
3257
3258			[by Profane MuthaFucka (574406)]
3259	root	1.387	%
3260	root	1.388	[Aus: Psychologie heute, 10/2003, über einen Artikel von Rentfrow/Gosling,
3261	root	1.264	Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 6/2003]
3262
3263			Fans von reflexiven und komplexen Musikstilen wie Klassik, Blues, Jazz und
3264			Folk sind offen, tolerant und machen gerne neue Erfahrungen. Sie halten
3265	root	1.388	sich für intelligent - und sind es auch. Außerdem können sie gut mit
3266			Worten umgehen, schätzen das schöne. haben eine starke Vorstellungskraft
3267			und sind politisch liberal eingestellt. Sie sind häufig etwas unsportlich
3268	root	1.264	und wollen andere nicht dominieren.
3269
3270	root	1.388	Anhänger von intensiven und rebellischen Musikrichtungen wie Heavy Metal,
3271			Rock und alternativer Musik sind offen für Experimente. Sie halten sich
3272			außerdem für intelligent, eloquent und sportlich. Obwohl die Musik, die
3273			sie bevorzugen, vorwiegend negatives ausdrückt, scheint dies nicht auf
3274			sie abzufärben: Sie sind weder neurotischer noch unverträglicher als die
3275			Fans anderer Musikrichtungen. Darüber hinaus sind sie wissensdurstig,
3276			risikobereit und körperlich aktiv.
3277	root	1.264
3278			Beschwingt und konventionell. So bezeichnen Rentfrow und Gosling
3279	root	1.388	Popsongs und Schmusehits, Countrymusik, Filmmusik und religiöse Musik
3280			(Spirituals, Gospels, Kirchenlieder). Wer diese Musik gerne hört, ist ein
3281			umgänglicher Zeitgenosse: Er geht gern aus sich heraus, ist verträglich,
3282			fröhlich, zuverlässig, hilfsbereit und gewissenhaft. Seine Einstellungen
3283	root	1.264	sind eher konservativ, Beredesamkeit und Offenheit sind nicht seine
3284	root	1.388	Stärken. Dafür hält er sich aber für attraktiv und vor allem für
3285	root	1.264	sportlich.
3286
3287	root	1.388	Wer sich für energetische und rhythmische Musik begeistern kann (Rap,
3288			Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, Electronica) trägt sein Herz auf der Zunge. Er
3289			ist umgänglich, quirlig, liberal eingestellt, extravertiert und ein
3290			wenig eitel: Er hält sich für attraktiv und sportlich. Konservatives
3291			Gedankengut und Dominanz über andere liegen ihm hingegen fern.
3292	root	1.264
3293	root	1.388	Die besten verbalen Fähigkeiten haben die Angehörigen der ersten beiden
3294	root	1.264	Gruppen. Am wenigsten beredt ist die dritte Gruppe. An analytischem
3295	root	1.388	Verstand mangelt es vor allen den Musikhörern der vierten Gruppe.
3296			während die erste Gruppe, gefolgt von der zweiten, am meisten davon
3297	root	1.264	vorzuweisen hat.
3298
3299			"Die intelligenteste Gruppe bevorzugt die komplexeste Musik", sagen die
3300			Forscher.
3301	root	1.387	%
3302	root	1.263	[Very well-written article on the legal foundazion of licensing, and
3303			the extreme difference in what a free software license does vs. a
3304			EULA-style license]
3305	root	1.262	http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/cores/2005/01/001453
3306	root	1.387	%
3307	root	1.261	The Pirate Bay is a BitTorrent tracking site in Sweden with 150,000 users
3308			a day. In the fall, it posted a torrent for Shrek 2. Dreamworks sent a
3309			cease-and-desist letter demanding the site remove it. One of the site's
3310			pseudonymous owners, Anakata, replied: "As you may or may not be aware,
3311			Sweden is not a state in the United States of America. Sweden is a country
3312			in northern Europe [and] US law does not apply here. ... It is the opinion
3313			of us and our lawyers that you are fucking morons." Shrek 2 stayed up.
3314	root	1.387	%
3315	root	1.260	Java is, in many ways, C++--. (Michael Feldman)
3316	root	1.387	%
3317	root	1.259	[Happy New Year]
3318			23:42 -!- zaphod [jkneer@fatboy.laendle] has quit [Quit: Hochhaus]
3319			Day changed to 01 Jan 2005
3320			00:24 <schmorp> re
3321	root	1.387	%
3322	root	1.258	[http://www.calsky.com/lexikon/de/txt/f/fe/fehlschluss.php]
3323	root	1.388	Im besten Fall kann die Verknüpfung zweier Tatsachen Verdachtsmomente
3324			liefern, die mit wissenschaftlichen Methoden abgeklärt werden
3325	root	1.258	sollen. Was eine wissenschaftliche Methode ist, ist Gegenstand anderer
3326			wissenschaftlicher Untersuchungen.
3327	root	1.387	%
3328	root	1.257	[funny page(s), although I think it's sad that people trying to "debunk"
3329			bad science theories are prone to the same logical fallacies as the
3330			proponents of such theories.]
3331			http://www.xs4all.nl/~mke/Planet-X.htm
3332			"On the Internet, there's a picture circulating that's supposedly `secret
3333			evidence' from Russia, proving Planet X is an inhabited world. The makers
3334			took the original photo (top left), enlarged it, and upgraded it with
3335			`solarize' and `find edges'. And look... Suddenly, you see all kinds of
3336			spaceships orbiting the planet! (top right) I followed exactly the same
3337			procedure, using a photo of one Robert Bridson, math student at Stanford
3338			University (below, left). After enlarging and solarizing the photograph,
3339			it became clear that mr. Bridsons left ear actually is inhabited by
3340			intelligent beings, since there clearly is a spaceship taking off from it
3341			(below, right)."
3342	root	1.387	%
3343	root	1.256	[wonderful info...]
3344			http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/
3345			[useful info...]
3346			http://www.snopes.com/
3347	root	1.387	%
3348	root	1.253	Computer analyst to programmer:
3349			"You start coding. I'll go find out what they want."
3350	root	1.387	%
3351	root	1.252	[Fun!]
3352			http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
3353	root	1.387	%
3354	root	1.388	[Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 11/2004, über Informationstransport im All]
3355	root	1.251	"Wenn unsere Vettern im Kosmos wirklich intelligent sind, werden ihre
3356			Computer sicher nicht mit Microsoft-Betriebssystemen ausgestattet sein."
3357	root	1.387	%
3358	root	1.250	[in our continued series, "solaris source code", today, /bin/true]
3359			ddev5:~$ cat /bin/true
3360			#!/usr/bin/sh
3361			# Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
3362			# All Rights Reserved
3363
3364			# THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
3365			# The copyright notice above does not evidence any
3366			# actual or intended publication of such source code.
3367
3368			#ident "@(#)true.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.4 */
3369	root	1.432	ddev5:~$
3370	root	1.387	%
3371	root	1.249	22:07 <elmex> schmorp: naja, es beweist das das konzept von java nicht funktioniert
3372			22:07 <schmorp> elmex: welches konzept?
3373			22:07 <elmex> das "hack dir die beine ab, und lauf nen marathon"-konzept ;)
3374	root	1.387	%
3375	root	1.248	[Gtk2/Makefile.PL]
3376			# win32 does not allow unresolved symbols in libraries, but
3377			# Gtk2 uses on symbols in the dll created for Glib.
3378			# so, we have to break all this nice abstraction and encapsulation
3379			# and find the actual Glib.dll and Glib.lib installed by perl when
3380			# the Glib module was built, and add it to the list of lib files.
3381			#
3382			# say it with me: "i hate win32."
3383	root	1.387	%
3384	root	1.388	Immerhin meint die Filmförderungsanstalt, im Jahr 2002 seien 59
3385	root	1.247	Millionen CD-Rohlinge von 5,9 Millionen Nutzern mit Filmen bespielt
3386			worden, im Durchschnitt also zwo:lf Rohlinge pro Anwender.
3387			-- <http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/see-08.04.03-000/>
3388	root	1.387	%
3389	root	1.246	http://otierney.net/images/perl6.gif
3390	root	1.387	%
3391	root	1.245	[http://www.kinderschaender.de/begriff.htm]
3392	root	1.388	Das einzige, was die Seite wirklich gezeigt hat, ist, daß es kaum Menschen
3393			gibt, die weiter denken als ein Schwein scheißt.
3394	root	1.387	%
3395	root	1.244	http://www.paulgraham.com/fix.html
3396			[I'd say ALL the essays on http://www.paulgraham.com/articles.html
3397			are readable, and in most cases I wholeheartedly agree with them.]
3398	root	1.387	%
3399	root	1.243	http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/security_report_windows_vs_linux/
3400	root	1.387	%
3401	root	1.243	[From: CRYPTO-GRAM]
3402			Bill Gates points out that all those IE security holes have not been
3403			Microsoft's fault. (The first step towards recovery is recognizing
3404			that you have a problem.)
3405			<http://slashdot.org/articles/04/10/15/015239.shtml?tid=109&tid=1>
3406	root	1.387	%
3407	root	1.242	[top output on redhat9, with one real-time priority process]
3408			PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME CPU COMMAND
3409	root	1.247	25788 root 18446744073709551565 0 10076 9.8M 2816 S 0.9 1.9 0:01
3410	root	1.242	26064 root 21 0 1508 1508 1184 S 0.3 0.2 0:00 0 curl
3411
3412			[I am continually amazed at how redhat is able to break utilities that worked
3413			and work on other distributions without flaws again and again and again...]
3414	root	1.387	%
3415	root	1.241	That depends. There is C++ and there is C++. There are many different
3416			sorts of C++, I'll talk about 2 of them:
3417
3418			Category 1 code is 'C with classes and on-the-fly variable
3419			declarations'. It uses macros, bad encapsulation, no const-correctness,
3420			etc. Category 1 code tends to either use object oriented programing
3421			exclusively, or use it combined with procedural programming. Other
3422			programming paradigms are extremely rare. It often uses non-portable hacks
3423			because Standard-knowledge is scarce among category 1 coders. Category 1
3424			code is seen mostly in Flipcode and Gamedev.net articles and forums. Also
3425			it is seen in almost every API ever developed by Microsoft. A slightly
3426			less bad version of category 1 code is seen in libraries that call
3427			themselves "high-quality C++ libraries" but that don't even use a single
3428			namespace and rely heavily on macros and other unsafe preprocessing
3429			techniques where this is totally unnecessary. Most of those libraries are
3430			that way because they were started before the 1998 C++ Standard's stuff
3431			got implemented in main-stream compilers.
3432
3433			Category 2 code is what I'd like to see as the meaning of the term
3434			"C++ code". It is Standard-compliant, uses multiple programming
3435			paradigms and is pushing the language to the max (and beyond ;) to
3436			create easy to use, efficient, highly-reusable and easy to extend
3437			programs/libraries/modules/etc. Unfortunately, category 2 code is
3438			hard to write when you have to work with incompetent compilers like
3439			MSVC6/7. Category 2 code is mostly seen in:
3440	root	1.387	%
3441	root	1.240	[On "Main Loop with Fixed Time Steps", a Windows programmer commented:]
3442	root	1.239
3443			Just to point out, With a tick being a maximum of FFFFFFFFh, you only
3444			have about 49 days of tick time since the system has started! Though I
3445			doubt any game or even system runs for that long.
3446	root	1.387	%
3447	root	1.238	[http://www.paulgraham.com/popular.html]
3448			"The best writing is rewriting," wrote E. B. White. Every good writer
3449			knows this, and it's true for software too.
3450	root	1.387	%
3451	root	1.237	> think it needs the Ultimate Refactor..."rm -rf programs/Xserver/GL"
3452
3453			... and I was told "rm -rf" means "read mail, really fast!"
3454			;)
3455	root	1.387	%
3456	root	1.235	[this is not a blogggggg]
3457			One fine day, I removed the "video=matrox:off" from my kernel commandline,
3458			having removed the matrox card from my machine months ago. Promptly, the
3459			proprietary nvidia driver greeted me with:
3460
3461			NVIDIA: Failed to map framebuffer memors
3462
3463	root	1.236	Adding the video option back made it work again. No, I do not have any
3464			framebuffer devices compiled into the kernel, either...
3465	root	1.387	%
3466	root	1.234	[taken out of a public mail by a journalist... I have never seen anybody
3467			using so many abbreviations...]
3468
3469			Hi Volker -
3470
3471			alles klar ..!? Bin mit dem Buch i. Stretch .. Lektorat / Korrektorat
3472	root	1.388	Architekturbuch ... wie üblich, kennst das ja wahrsch. auch ... alles zu
3473			spät ...
3474	root	1.234
3475			Dann gehts direktemang in die Ferien (2 Wochen Gomera ab komm. SA ...)
3476
3477			Ja, und dann find ich doch Volker ganz Massiv im Briefkasten a. SA ..
3478
3479	root	1.388	schönes Foto von dir ... 1 Seite .. 2 seiten Interview, m. Fortsetzung im
3480			nächsten Heft ..!!! (äusserst rar b. nem Interview ...)
3481	root	1.234
3482	root	1.388	herzliche Grüsse
3483	root	1.234
3484			tom
3485	root	1.247
3486	root	1.234	PS: Mein Wissenschtf.Kollege und Filmemacher ist der Meinung, dass das Thema
3487	root	1.388	'Copyrights, Commons, Freedom' etc ...spannend wäre, aber schlecht fürs TV
3488	root	1.234	... Du kannst prakt. nichts mehr themat. Anspruchsvolles machen ... auch b.
3489	root	1.388	Arte war irgend nen Problem (fällt mir auf d. Schnelle nicht mehr ein ...
3490	root	1.234	schon ein paar Wochen her ...)
3491	root	1.387	%
3492	root	1.233	From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
3493			Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4
3494			Message-ID: <20040826183838.GE2793@holomorphy.com>
3495
3496			On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 02:02:29AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
3497	root	1.247	> How old are you? I thought you were the guy at Linux Tag with fashion
3498			> oriented hair who gave a talk on his XFS work? Did I confuse you with
3499	root	1.233	> someone else?
3500
3501			Index: mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS
3502			===================================================================
3503			--- mm1-2.6.9-rc1.orig/CREDITS 2004-08-26 10:37:57.424567967 -0700
3504			+++ mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS 2004-08-26 11:35:24.977260109 -0700
3505			@@ -2677,6 +2677,14 @@
3506			S: 79098 Freiburg
3507			S: Germany
3508
3509			+N: Hans Reiser
3510			+E: reiser@namesys.com
3511			+W: http://www.namesys.com/
3512			+D: official Linux kernel hairstyle critic
3513			+S: 6979 Exeter Dr
3514			+S: Oakland, CA 94611
3515			+S: USA
3516			+
3517			N: Joerg Reuter
3518			E: jreuter@yaina.de
3519			W: http://yaina.de/jreuter/
3520	root	1.387	%
3521	root	1.232	Partial lynx-output for mail sent by "T-Online Vertragsbrief":
3522			[poeppel_magenta.gif]
3523	root	1.387	%
3524	root	1.231	[http://www.dark-skies.org/theproblems.html#security]
3525			Better ligthing does not affect crime rates
3526	root	1.387	%
3527	root	1.230	[http://www.immunitysec.com/downloads/tc0.pdf]
3528			Label: "Difficulty of owning Windows vs. Difficulty to make this graph"
3529	root	1.387	%
3530	root	1.229	[rxvt-unicode (mine! :) vs. gnome-terminal :)]
3531			[http://bugs.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137864]
3532			[...]
3533			Upgrading to major: the first person to fix this (fix = performance is
3534			within a factor of 2 of rxvt-unicode for all four of the tests here) gets
3535			$50 from me, or an expensive dinner + all the beer they can handle if they
3536			ever visit Sydney, Australia ;)
3537			[...]
3538			Tagging this critical+urgent. How dare I, you ask? Doubling the reward -
3539			$100 if this is fixed (see above) before September 1, 2004. $0 after that
3540			(and I'll return it to a normal bug ;) If anyone else wants to contribute
3541			to whoever ends up fixing this, please join in..
3542	root	1.387	%
3543	root	1.228	[SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301268,00.html]
3544			[SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301538,00.html]
3545			Dass die Flimmerkiste ein beliebiges "Nullmedium" sei, beklagen
3546			Kulturkritiker von jeher. Doch nun zeigt selbst ein unvoreingenommener
3547			Blick aufs TV-Programm: Die Quote ist heilig, das Niveau sinkt auf breiter
3548			Front - auch bei ARD und ZDF. Verdummt die Na
3549	root	1.387	%
3550	root	1.226	[SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM,ed-XX1sNy0yR7p~QMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/brainleak%202004-03-02.html]
3551	root	1.227	[...] Tech savvy people will be inclining towards clicking the cancel
3552			button by default whenever they are presented a question which they don't
3553			fully understand, or didn't expect to see. Regular computer users will
3554			be inclined to press the Ok button instead, because they fear that by
3555			clicking cancel they might be causing something they don't understand not
3556			to work, something that they probably won't be able to fix afterwards
3557			anyway. If a geek fucks up somehow, he'll know what to do to fix it
3558			anyway, so there's no harm done clicking cancel. [...]
3559	root	1.387	%
3560	root	1.223	[http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/00/10/marienbad.html]
3561			I once had a postmodern intertextual moment at a drugstore bookrack when I
3562	root	1.224	picked up a paperback with the following title: Bram Stoker's Dracula:
3563	root	1.223	A Novelization Based on the Original Screenplay.
3564	root	1.387	%
3565	root	1.222	[bts show 215647]
3566			[yes, the whole thing]
3567	root	1.387	%
3568	root	1.221	[bts show 254316]
3569	root	1.247	> > The problem is not in luit, it's not in XTerm, it's not even in termcap;
3570			> > it's in the morass of complexity that some mindless jerk who'll be first
3571			> > against the wall when the revolution comes standardised as ISO 2022.
3572	root	1.221	>
3573			> ( google suggests 2022 has many fans ;-)
3574
3575			We'll use a larger wall.
3576	root	1.387	%
3577	root	1.220	[Maedhros35 about "Clockwork Orange" on IMDB]
3578			This is a movie I would not recommend even to my worst enemy. It is a
3579			horrible picture, containing too much random violence and rape committed
3580			by four no-goods in white pyjamas, than is good for anyone too watch.
3581
3582			The only fun moment is when the main character, being brainwashed into a
3583			non-violent state of mind, is being bashed by his former friends.
3584
3585			There may be some "hidden message" in this movie about society and blah,
3586			but the message (not too well brought) is completely drowned.
3587
3588			It is not even a waste of your time, it is worse than that. Avoid at all
3589			cost.
3590			["too much violence" but "the only fun moment".... What the...!?]
3591	root	1.387	%
3592	root	1.219	When searching on google for:
3593
3594	root	1.225	kakerlake schabe made
3595	root	1.219
3596			Google asked me wether I instead wanted to look for:
3597
3598	root	1.225	kakerlake _schwabe_ made
3599	root	1.387	%
3600	root	1.218	What we learned this week;
3601			"Hell is a bad place to be and renders with 8-12fps"
3602	root	1.387	%
3603	root	1.216	"Britain is one of only three countries in the world (the others are
3604			Germany and Egypt) enduring stricter censorship today than 25years ago"
3605	root	1.387	%
3606	root	1.215	[translated]
3607			23:07 <schmorp> libtool is soo broken
3608			23:07 <schmorp> ./libtool gcc-3.4 ...
3609			23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
3610			23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
3611			23:07 <schmorp> ...
3612			23:07 <schmorp> libtool --tag=ulubulu
3613			23:07 <schmorp> libtool: ignoring unknown tag ulubulu
3614			23:07 <schmorp> and it works
3615	root	1.387	%
3616	root	1.214	History does not repeat itself. Historians repeat each other.
3617			-- Lord Balfour
3618	root	1.387	%
3619	root	1.213	The whole of Mozilla is just one big focus bug.
3620	root	1.387	%
3621	root	1.212	<Beerman> When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then
3622			I realised that The Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked
3623			him to forgive me.
3624	root	1.387	%
3625	root	1.211	[slashdot]
3626			> there are currently no active, reliable ways to obtain the program listings for New Zealand television
3627
3628			I have been to NZ. You have no television.
3629	root	1.387	%
3630	root	1.210	[IMDB user about "What?" by Roman Polanski]
3631			"What?" fills the gap for those who get a kick out of 70's porn plots, but
3632			get bored during the sex scenes.
3633	root	1.387	%
3634	root	1.209	I say to you that the VCR is to the ... American public as the Boston
3635			strangler is to the woman home alone.
3636			- Jack Valenti (CEO, MPAA)
3637	root	1.387	%
3638	root	1.208	[Bruce Schneier]
3639			SP2 is an important security upgrade to Windows XP, and I hope it is
3640			widely installed among licensed XP users. I also hope it is quickly
3641			pirated, so unlicensed XP users can also install it. In order for me
3642			to remain secure on the Internet, I need everyone to become more
3643			secure. And the more people who install SP2, the more we all benefit.
3644	root	1.387	%
3645	root	1.207	[From Paul Eggert]
3646			[...] Worse, HP-UX asctime rejects any tm_year that is negative; this
3647			violates the C standard, but HP won't take my bug reports since I'm not a
3648			HP-UX customer. [...]
3649	root	1.387	%
3650	root	1.206	>>>Just curious, If I recall correctly, didn't Forth used to be FORTH?
3651			>>
3652			>>Since FORTH is not an acronym (the way BASIC, LISP, FORTRAN and C are)
3653			>>but a (deliberate) misspelling of "fourth", when it became possible to
3654			>>use LC the fashion became to do so. My book, "Scientific FORTH" (1992)
3655			>>spelled it in UC.
3656	root	1.247	>
3657			>
3658	root	1.206	> BASIC, LISP and FORTRAN are acronyms. C isn't.
3659
3660			C isn't all caps, just the initial letter.
3661	root	1.387	%
3662	root	1.205	[comp.lang.c]
3663			> According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language
3664
3665			I'm sorry, but that's like quoting Bjarne Stroustrup on correct ISO C
3666			usage.
3667
3668			Richard
3669	root	1.387	%
3670	root	1.204	I remember Elwyn Berlekamp describing what goes on at computer go
3671			tournaments (where computer programs play go against each other) - unlike
3672			at computer chess tournaments where the programs far surpass their
3673			creators, at go tournaments the creators sit there and look at a game in
3674			play and say things to each other like, "Gosh, I wonder if my program will
3675			repair that weakness before your program notices it."
3676	root	1.387	%
3677	root	1.203	21:40 <oesi> sansho: du bist kindisch. :)
3678			21:40 <sansho> oesi: das hab ich mir von dir abgeguckt
3679	root	1.387	%
3680	root	1.202	MarkD [-]: The trouble with political jokes is that some of them get elected
3681	root	1.387	%
3682	root	1.201	A coherent understanding of Philosophy will convince you that you are
3683			competent to understand the universe and achieve the human values that
3684			make life meaningful. You will know when you know something and when you
3685			don't, when you understand something and when you don't, and why. You
3686			will also realize why morality and ethics are too important to be left to
3687			anyone but yourself. You will learn that there are no shortcuts to truth,
3688			no authorities you can follow blindly, and perhaps most important, that
3689			nothing at all exists except reality. In sum, you will know what human
3690			existence means and implies.
3691
3692			[Introduction to Philosophy, Joel Katz]
3693	root	1.387	%
3694	root	1.201	> > Casts from void* are necessary in C++, not in C.
3695			>
3696			> I am aware... I'm fishing for more info! Perhaps if I reposted again and
3697			> said you were wrong I'll get more...
3698			>
3699			> You're WRONG!
3700
3701	root	1.388	void* is implicitly converted to the destination pointer type (C99 §6.3.2.3
3702			and §7.20.3.1).
3703	root	1.387	%
3704	root	1.200	From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu>
3705			In the DOS days, I had a scattering of students who really
3706			knew about computers. In the XP days, I have none.
3707	root	1.387	%
3708	root	1.199	[another variation, more useful]
3709			A. It should be obvious.
3710			Q. How is it hard?
3711			A. Because it makes it hard to follow conversations.
3712			Q. Why is top-posting bad?
3713	root	1.387	%
3714	root	1.198	[windows is a good place to learn programming]
3715			Subject: Linux c prog doesn't work on Sun Solaris Machine....?
3716
3717			Compiled using g++ on linux and then I tried to execute it on Solaris.
3718			The error message was something like "can't execute a.out"
3719
3720			- works ok on linux
3721			- ran chmod so Sun user has execute/read/etc permissions. chmod u=rwx
3722
3723			Any clues why?
3724			I am new to the non windows world.
3725
3726			Thanks
3727	root	1.387	%
3728	root	1.197	[comp.lang.c]
3729			> I want to write some data on the EEPROM of a PIC 16F877 microcontroller via
3730			> serial port rs232. What library can I use with a gcc compiler to perform
3731			> this ?
3732
3733			This is not a C question. Please try asking again in comp.arch.embedded where
3734			we will advise you to use an 8051, AVR, or MSP430 instead of the PIC.
3735	root	1.387	%
3736	root	1.196	[comp.std.c]
3737			In message <c4k0mj$fmp$1@sunnews.cern.ch>
3738			Dan.Pop@cern.ch (Dan Pop) wrote:
3739
3740			> In <nfa0k1-03l.ln1@jones.homeip.net> lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com writes:
3741	root	1.247	>
3742			> >The text of the standard only yields one reasonable interpretation.
3743			>
3744	root	1.196	> Yup, mine!
3745	root	1.387	%
3746	root	1.195	[links-2.1pre13 ChangeLog]
3747			Thu Oct 9 16:44:10 GMT 2003 mikulas:
3748
3749			Do not print 1000l on FreeBSD console on exit
3750	root	1.387	%
3751	root	1.194	[an old question, revisited]
3752			http://www.style.org/unladenswallow/
3753	root	1.387	%
3754	root	1.194	[comp.lang.c]
3755	root	1.247	> can any one translate the following codes into c++ codes,
3756	root	1.194
3757			This is comp.lang.c. We do C, not C++. We do not translate C into
3758			obfuscated languages. The good news is that your code already _is_ C++.
3759	root	1.387	%
3760	root	1.194	[comp.lang.c]
3761			I didn't say he was incorrect. I said he was an idiot.
3762	root	1.387	%
3763	root	1.193	according to babelfish "glibber" in german means "more glibber" in english :-)
3764	root	1.387	%
3765	root	1.192	[Debian Bug #163625 features one of my favourite bug report subjects:]
3766			Installing additional mozilla Debian packages
3767	root	1.247	deletes additionally installed mozilla packages
3768	root	1.387	%
3769	root	1.388	[Aus einer Werbung für dne "Windows-Berater". Es ist erschreckend, zeigt
3770			aber, das manche Maßnahmen von Microsoft völlig irreführenderweise als
3771			Sicherheitsmaßnahme verstanden und dargestellt werden. Ich frage mich, wie
3772	root	1.190	DRM in Zukunft aufgenommen und beworben werden wird...]
3773
3774	root	1.388	"Kaum angekündigt, schon ist der Registrierungsschutz geknackt"
3775	root	1.190
3776	root	1.388	Das neue Windows XP lässt sich nur mit einem besonderen Registrierungscode
3777	root	1.190	dauerhaft betreiben. Besorgt sich der Anwender diese Lizenz nicht,
3778			wird das System gesperrt. Damit sollen Raubkopien und unerlaubte
3779			Mehrfachnutzung verhindert werden. Kaum vorgestellt, knacken Hacker
3780	root	1.388	diese Verschlüsselung schon. Checklisten zeigen Ihnen, wie dieser Klau
3781			abläuft. Damit Sie sich und Ihr System vor ungebetenen Zugriffen und Viren
3782			schützen können.
3783	root	1.387	%
3784	root	1.189	[Reiner Gamma]
3785			http://www.geocities.com/kc5lei/SWIRL2001.htm
3786	root	1.387	%
3787	root	1.188	>> Asshole keep you shit out of alt.binaries.games.adult until you read
3788			[...]
3789	root	1.187	>Dude, thisi is not "alt.binaries.games.adult".
3790	root	1.188	[...]
3791	root	1.187	Yes, it is. Or, it was, till your post cut the crosspost. It was
3792			crossposted to several groups and the person you're replying to will
3793			never get your message.
3794	root	1.387	%
3795	root	1.186	[http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/doc/Details.html.pl]
3796			As this project will always run unknown binary code of proprietary W32
3797			filesystem drivers, the code can never be trusted.
3798	root	1.387	%
3799	root	1.185	[http://www.hello-penguin.com/gtm-perl/doc/Perl.html]
3800			(look at the BUGS section... very funny to read, btw., it's
3801			a sourceforge project called GT.M).
3802	root	1.387	%
3803	root	1.184	bigger things. We\\\\\\\'d be using C + asm and Hax
3804			01:15 <Sesse> we all the backslashes?
3805			01:15 <schmorp> no idea, i have these in some of my descriptions, too
3806			01:15 <schmorp> it seems that sourceofrge does " -> \" on every deascription change
3807			01:15 <Sesse> sounds like php
3808			01:15 <schmorp> i guess it's written in php
3809			01:15 <schmorp> g
3810			01:15 <Sesse> :-D
3811	root	1.387	%
3812	root	1.183	http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/
3813			[...] At the beginning I didn't expect that I would actually succeed,
3814			since I thought I would need almost half of that just for the headers. I
3815			think my first cut was 458 bytes in size. I was quite pleased with myself
3816			when I trimmed that down to less than 300 bytes, ecstatic when I finally
3817			reached the 255-byte goal, and downright triumphant when I later got it to
3818			work in 238 bytes. By the time I had a 198-byte version, I was just plain
3819			dumbfounded. It's now at 171 bytes. [...]
3820	root	1.387	%
3821	root	1.182	[http://www.mindspring.com/~kimall/Japanese/polite.html]
3822			[...] Americans didn't invent English (although the Brits will happily
3823			disown our mangled version of it! :-) ) [...]
3824	root	1.387	%
3825	root	1.181	[Eugene Spafford]
3826			During the heights of some of the recent viruses, I was discarding 30Mb of
3827			email per day -- all of it viruses. And I should point out -- viruses for
3828			Windows. There have been something like 100,000 viruses for MS operating
3829			systems, only about 50 for the Mac, and about 3 for commercial Unix
3830			systems. That difference isn't because of a difference in the prevalence
3831			of the machines -- there are basic architectural differences.
3832	root	1.387	%
3833	root	1.180	[http://MarginalHacks.com/]
3834			If you can't vi it, it sucks.
3835	root	1.387	%
3836	root	1.180	[from the somewhat outdated xterm-faq]
3837			GNOME TERMINAL
3838			[...]
3839			The documentation is fragmentary (with a comment suggesting that the
3840			author does not know where to find relevant information), and the program
3841			fares badly with vttest. [...] But it suffices for vi.
3842			[.. later]
3843			There is a variation of xvt (ancestor of rxvt) originally known as kvt
3844			bundled with KDE which may be referred to as "kterm", but I do not find it
3845			interesting, other than to comment that it was a poor choice of name.
3846	root	1.387	%
3847	root	1.179	[I love X programs]
3848			[xc/programs/xprop/xprop.c]
3849			/*
3850	root	1.247	* blip: a debugging routine. Prints Blip! on stderr with flushing.
3851	root	1.179	*/
3852			void blip()
3853	root	1.247	{
3854	root	1.179	fflush(stdout);
3855			fprintf(stderr, "blip!\n");
3856			fflush(stderr);
3857	root	1.247	}
3858	root	1.387	%
3859	root	1.178	[pavel machek commenting on a proposed patch]
3860			+ int alternative_order = 999;
3861
3862			Why not 666? :-).
3863	root	1.387	%
3864	root	1.178	[yosh on gimp-developer]
3865			It's also better to research your suggestions a little, so that they don't
3866			sound completely out there, thereby reinforcing the viewpoint that Windows
3867			users are clueless.
3868	root	1.387	%
3869	root	1.177	[modularity makes unix systems more secure]
3870			http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/36029.html
3871	root	1.387	%
3872	root	1.176	[beware german translations]
3873			dpkg: Warnung - ignoriere Kollision, kann sowieso weitermachen!
3874	root	1.387	%
3875	root	1.175	[http://www.cypherspace.org/adam/hacks/lotus-nsa-key.html, look around there]
3876			NSA's Backdoor Key from Lotus-Notes
3877	root	1.387	%
3878	root	1.174	The word "ampersand" is an alteration of the phrase "et, per se and" (that
3879			is: "et by itself [means] and"), which became corrupted to "and, per se
3880			and", and finally, ampersand.
3881	root	1.387	%
3882	root	1.173	[xc/lib/X11/lcUTF8.c]
3883			[...] We distinguish three classes of clients: [1st] [...] [2nd] Clients
3884			which accept CompoundText with multiple character sets and parse it
3885			themselves. (Example: emacs, xemacs.) [3rd] [...] In a distant future,
3886			when clients of the first and second kind will have disappeared, [...]
3887	root	1.387	%
3888	root	1.171	[linux-2.6/drivers/md/Kconfig]
3889			WARNING: RAID-6 is currently highly experimental. If you
3890			use it, there is no guarantee whatsoever that it won't
3891			destroy your data, eat your disk drives, insult your mother,
3892			or re-appoint George W. Bush.
3893	root	1.387	%
3894	root	1.170	[http://www.herodios.com/herron_tc/atsign.html]
3895			Many Finnish terms for @ are connected with cats. Not content with naming
3896			the sign for what it looks like, Finnish names it for what it looks like
3897			sounds like. In addition to "kissanhnta [cat's tail], "miau," "miumau,"
3898			and "miuku" are all "miau merkki" [meow marks] in Finnish. Other terms
3899			from Finnish include "apinanhanta" [a monkey's tail], or "hiirenhanta"
3900			[mouse's tail]. Some "computer people" use the English word "at."
3901	root	1.387	%
3902	root	1.247	17:07 <oesi> schmorp: mal ein guter kommentar auf heise zum thema "Bill tourt durch
3903	root	1.388	die USA und kündigt innovative neuentwicklungen an"
3904			17:08 <oesi> Kommentar war: "was hat er angekündigt: drive-letter in unicode?"
3905	root	1.387	%
3906	root	1.168	[Ken Lunde about his copy of KS C 5657-1991:]
3907			Here's another interesting note. My official copy of this
3908			standard has all of its 2,856 hanja hand-written.
3909	root	1.387	%
3910	root	1.172	[cvs, while checking in changes to uunet's radiusd]
3911	root	1.168	confused about file platform.h -- ignoring
3912	root	1.387	%
3913	root	1.167	[http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/02/24/1011245.shtml]
3914	root	1.247	And most likely, the FBI didn't tell the hosting company exactly what it
3915			is they wanted. When the Feds come in with a search warrant, they don't
3916			ask for your help. They say, "stand aside" and commence
3917	root	1.167	%
3918	root	1.166	http://www.bash.org/?178890
3919	root	1.387	%
3920	root	1.165	[http://www.bash.org/?75016]
3921			<ig3l\|Guel> If Osama B. isn't in Afghanistan, and if he isn't dead, we believe he is in another country" - US army General
3922	root	1.387	%
3923	root	1.247	00:56 <oesi> ulpfr: ich schrieb mal einen kompletten mailer in emacs, weil mir rmail
3924			nicht gefallen hat. man wird aelter und reifer und droppt dann emacs
3925	root	1.164	einfach :)
3926			00:56 <ulpfr> Weichei
3927	root	1.387	%
3928	root	1.163	[spca50x.sourceforge.net]
3929			/*
3930			* Function compares two strings.
3931	root	1.247	* Return offset in pussy where prick ends if "prick" may penetrate
3932	root	1.163	* int "pussy" like prick into pussy, -1 otherwise.
3933			*/
3934			static inline int match(const char* prick, const char* pussy, int len2)
3935			{
3936			int len1 = strlen(prick); //length of male string
3937			[...]
3938	root	1.387	%
3939	root	1.163	http://www.leckse.net/profilieren/chat
3940	root	1.387	%
3941	root	1.388	rohw, schleymig und formlos Fleisch wie di Schleuch eines Tündenfischs
3942	root	1.387	%
3943	root	1.162	[rxvt-*/src/init.[cC]]
3944			/* grab colors before netscape does */
3945			Get_Colours ();
3946	root	1.387	%
3947	root	1.388	[oesi über apache-2.0]
3948	root	1.160	03:10 <oesi> ist mir egal, ich fahre alle 24h den apache runter...
3949			03:10 <oesi> ich fahre praktisch das 1.3er config-file. das gibt sicherheit :)
3950			03:11 <oesi> ich kann apache nicht stoppen.
3951			03:11 <oesi> apachectl stop
3952			03:11 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
3953			03:11 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
3954			03:12 <oesi> wie konnte ich den starten?
3955			03:12 <schmorp> rofl
3956	root	1.161	[...]
3957			03:29 <oesi> es ist kein scherz. wirklich:
3958			03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl sslstart
3959			03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl stop
3960			03:29 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
3961			03:29 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
3962	root	1.387	%
3963	root	1.159	[http://www.jmarshall.com/tools/cgiproxy/]
3964			[...] Here's a demo (username "free", password "speech") [...]
3965	root	1.387	%
3966	root	1.158	[rxvt/src/screen.C]
3967			#ifdef DEBUG_STRICT
3968	root	1.247	assert(screen.cur.row >= 0);
3969	root	1.158	#else /* drive with your eyes closed */
3970			MAX_IT(screen.cur.row, 0);
3971			#endif
3972	root	1.387	%
3973	root	1.157	[http://www.mine-control.com/zack/timesync/timesync.html]
3974			[...] Also, anecdotal evidence from network programmers suggests that the
3975			UDP implementation under Win32 is unstable and overly-unreliable. [...]
3976	root	1.387	%
3977	root	1.156	> > Ceterum censeo \| PGP encrypted mail preferred.
3978			> > Redmond esse delendam. \| PGP Key at www.MPA-Garching.MPG.de/~nog/
3979			>
3980			> Willkomme im Club .... :-)))
3981
3982			Danke - ich bin schon lange dabei... ;-)
3983			--
3984			OpenVMS @ 25 \| Martin Vorlaender \| VMS & WNT programmer
3985	root	1.387	%
3986	root	1.388	Um die Jahrhundertwende erfand ein Mann namens Friedolin Tär einen
3987			IQ-Test, der die Gesamtpersönlichkeit sehr stark miteinbezog.
3988			Charakterstärke, Grosszügigkeit, flexibles Denken etc. wurden also
3989			mitbewertet. Die Skala mit der Maßeinheit "Tär" wies ein großes Spektrum
3990			auf. Ärzte, Wissenschaftler erreichen IQ's im Megatär-Bereich. Der
3991			Durchschnittsmensch weist einige Kilotär auf. Nach unten gibt es Dezitär,
3992			Centitär... und schießlich Mil(l)itär...
3993	root	1.387	%
3994	root	1.154	http://senseis.xmp.net/?GetStrongAtGote
3995			http://users.skynet.be/rexburton/ritchie.htm
3996	root	1.387	%
3997	root	1.153	Subject: [Swsusp-devel] 2.6.1: It could go faster if I didn't have egg on my face.
3998	root	1.387	%
3999	root	1.153	"It's not Hollywood. War is real, war is primarily not about defeat or
4000			victory, it is about death. I've seen thousands and thousands of dead
4001			bodies. Do you think I want to have an academic debate on this subject?"
4002			-- Robert Fisk
4003	root	1.387	%
4004	root	1.151	[the satellite death spiral: why spacecraft are unnecessarily expensive]
4005			http://www.dynacon.ca/pdf/files/newspdf_63.pdf
4006	root	1.152	[see also the small satellites homepage]
4007			http://centaur.sstl.co.uk/SSHP/
4008	root	1.387	%
4009	root	1.150	[http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/files/lec_lev.htm]
4010			"Anthropologists concur that America is an exceedingly 'low-touch,'
4011			high-violence culture"
4012			[...]
4013			"[...] Republican members of the House of Representatives called for the
4014			resignation of Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders, whose transgression was to
4015			suggest, in response to a question following a speech to sex educators,
4016			that masturbation was an appropriate subject for classroom discussion.
4017			This remark, according to one congressman, was part of a social movement
4018			that was "killing the moral fiber of America" and just one symptom of
4019			a decline also manifested in reckless driving, an indecisive military
4020			policy-dubbed "mission creep," and homosexuals in the Boy Scouts." [...]
4021
4022			Masturbation is an absolute taboo in the US. Many adults still think that
4023			they are the only ones who do such dirty things.
4024	root	1.387	%
4025	root	1.150	From: <[...]@aol.com>
4026			Subject: Re: [...]
4027
4028			Marc wrote on 1/7/2004, 6:57 AM:
4029
4030			> Congrats. No kidding, you are the first person @aol that ever sent me a
4031			> sensible mail. I was planning to reject mail from aol.com right away
4032			> since (in the last 8 years at least), nothing good came from there, but you
4033			> saved it :)
4034
4035			Yeah, I get that a lot, but you've got to know that .aol.com email
4036			addresses are also used by the people who work for AOL (cough, cough :).
4037			[...]
4038	root	1.387	%
4039	root	1.150	From: Alan Cox
4040			> The code to disable prefetch on Athlon is 300 bytes and hurts your PIV?
4041			> Really? I'll dig back through the code, but I recall it as adding or
4042			> deleting an entry in a table to enable prefetch. If it's affecting PIV the
4043			> code to use prefetch is seriously broken.
4044
4045			Big time. Its over 300 bytes long because its embedded in each inline
4046			prefetch and it causes a branch misprediction almost every time. Amazing
4047			what you find when you actually measure stuff 8)
4048			[...]
4049	root	1.387	%
4050	root	1.150	http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4051	root	1.387	%
4052	root	1.150	http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4053	root	1.387	%
4054	root	1.150	http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4055	root	1.387	%
4056	root	1.149	[FYI: java was officially announced in 1995, and certainly didn't exist
4057			even as a concept before 1991. It's interesting how many people nowadays
4058			claim to have decades of java experience]
4059			On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:11:54AM -0500, Robert Soros <robert@soros.ca> wrote:
4060			> I am extremely excited about your ideas to fix freenet and would be
4061			> willing to plug your code into fred (I have fourteen years java
4062			> programming experience.) Could you provide a link to your code? What
4063	root	1.387	%
4064	root	1.149	http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4065	root	1.387	%
4066	root	1.149	http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4067	root	1.387	%
4068	root	1.149	http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4069	root	1.387	%
4070	root	1.147	[in a private discussion about some potential problem that would cause]
4071			[mail not to be delivered]
4072			> > On the other hand, I see the same in some mail from RMS.
4073	root	1.247	>
4074	root	1.147	> Well, just because rms does it does not mean... :)
4075
4076			My point is that the FSF is unlikely to install something that
4077			bounces RMS's mail, at least, not for long.
4078	root	1.387	%
4079	root	1.147	On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Piers Cawley wrote:
4080
4081			> David Cantrell <david@cantrell.org.uk> writes:
4082			>
4083			> > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 11:16:52AM -0500, Tommie M. Jones wrote:
4084			> >> Anyone know of any perl software that does resume parsing.
4085			> >
4086			> > I don't think anyone has implemented continuations in perl, so I fail
4087			> > to see how you can have resumes. Or are you trying to parse some other
4088			> > language which does support this?
4089			>
4090
4091			Just because we share a language does not mean we understand each other.
4092
4093			In America there are two meanings for resume. One being to continue the
4094			other the equivalent of what ya'll call a CV (I think though I've never
4095			heard the term before) In the second definition resume is pronounced with
4096			a short u. I think there is a "`" in the proper spelling of the word but
4097			since Americans are not use to using punctuation in their words (other
4098			than to show ownership and contractions) it is usually loss.
4099	root	1.387	%
4100	root	1.147	echo $package has manual pages available in source form.
4101			echo "However, you don't have nroff, so they're probably useless to you."
4102			--Larry Wall in Configure from the perl distribution
4103	root	1.387	%
4104	root	1.146	AFTER 30 years of "daylight saving" - moving the clocks forward in the
4105			spring and then back again in the autumn - there is still an Abolish
4106			Daylight Saving Committee in New South Wales, Australia.
4107
4108			Added to the usual claims of such campaigns - for example, that the
4109			extra hour of daylight in the evening in summer fades the curtains - is
4110			a new one from ADSC spokeswoman Judith Hall, of Gunnedah, who told the
4111			Sydney Morning Herald: "No man has the right to choose the time of the
4112			rising and setting of the sun, only God."
4113
4114			Reader John McCallum, who told us about this, is surprised Hall doesn't
4115			explain why God doesn't simply exercise this choice. When people insist
4116			on moving their clocks forward, He should just move the sunrise forward
4117			and thwart them that way.
4118	root	1.387	%
4119	root	1.146	[Defect Report #205 to ISO-C]
4120			There was a unanimous vote that the feature is ugly, and a good consensus
4121			that its incorporation into the standard at the 11th hour was an
4122			unfortunate decision.
4123	root	1.387	%
4124	root	1.247	02:23 <oesi> Breaking News: SCO stellt per Wahrsager Codeklau in HURD in einem Jahr
4125	root	1.146	fest ;)
4126	root	1.387	%
4127	root	1.146	[http://www.unicode.org/standard/WhatIsUnicode.html]
4128
4129			Last updated: - Invalid Date
4130	root	1.387	%
4131	root	1.146	http://www.bash.org/?99060
4132	root	1.387	%
4133	root	1.145	[IZ-Buzzword-Bullshit-Bingo]
4134			http://www.l13.de/it/ibbb.html
4135	root	1.387	%
4136	root	1.144	Q: What is the state of the object after its lifetime has ended?
4137
4138			A: As a well-known software guru[3] once put it, speaking about a
4139			similar code fragment and anthropomorphically referring to the
4140			local object as a "he":
4141
4142			"He's not pining! He's passed on! This parrot is no more! He
4143			has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker!
4144			He's a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn't
4145			nailed him to the perch he'd be pushing up the daisies! His
4146			metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's
4147			kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down
4148			the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible! THIS IS AN
4149			EX-PARROT!"
4150
4151			- Dr. M. Python, BMath, MASc, PhD (CompSci)
4152	root	1.387	%
4153	root	1.144	[ach du schande]
4154			"pflichtpfandfrei"
4155	root	1.387	%
4156	root	1.142	[a comment on the demonstrations against bush in london]
4157			The police will shoot you.
4158
4159			OK, that's not strictly true. The CIA will shoot you. Then the police will
4160			arrest the CIA. Then American troops will invade.
4161
4162	root	1.247	Just another average day in central London.
4163	root	1.387	%
4164	root	1.141	[this signature gave me a laugh...]
4165			[...]even better is if there is a system function that sends out an arp
4166			reply.
4167
4168			pls. cc my email address
4169
4170			tia
4171			pd
4172
4173
4174	root	1.247	--
4175	root	1.141	^X^C
4176			q
4177			quit
4178			:q
4179			^C
4180			end
4181			x
4182			exit
4183			ZZ
4184			^D
4185			?
4186			help
4187			shit
4188			.
4189	root	1.387	%
4190	root	1.140	* muppet also hates bloatus notes. it doesn't need vnc to make it slow.
4191	root	1.387	%
4192	root	1.140	[From the File::Spec manpage on catdir]
4193			Concatenate two or more directory names to form a complete path ending
4194			with a directory. But remove the trailing slash from the resulting string,
4195			because it doesn't look good, isn't necessary and confuses OS2. [...]
4196	root	1.387	%
4197	root	1.140	[I love it]
4198			http://www.swindonweb.com/life/lifemagi0.htm
4199			http://www.armin-grewe.com/holiday/wiltshire/swindon-roundabout.htm
4200	root	1.387	%
4201	root	1.139	"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they go by."
4202			- Douglas Adams
4203	root	1.387	%
4204	root	1.138	Bill Gates is repeating the mantra that users are to blame for insecure
4205			PCs, in an interview with a Canadian newspaper. This refrain is familiar
4206			to the INQUIRER: Gates said more or less the same thing when he addressed
4207			an Assembly of CEOs in Berlin a few weeks ago.
4208
4209	root	1.247	The chief software architect (CSA.'.) told IT Business that perfect code
4210			wasn't the answer to security problems, but firewalls and keeping the
4211			software up to date were more important. The problems that have occurred
4212			this year wouldn't have happened if firms and individuals had set up
4213			their software properly.
4214	root	1.138
4215			He also claims in the article that Microsoft has always had security
4216			patches out before the exploits happened. Developers were also to blame
4217			because they didn't understand the application program interfaces, Gates
4218			told the publication.
4219
4220	root	1.247	And he also claimed that all forms of Unix and Linux have a greater
4221			number of vulnerabilities than Microsoft but don't spread as much because
4222			"they're not as dense" as Windows. Low volume software is hit by
4223			malicious people, high volume software, that is Windows, is hit by people
4224			who want visibility and glory.
4225	root	1.387	%
4226	root	1.137	[In the FAQ for a bootp client:]
4227
4228			o You are using --server to point to a server which doesn't run a bootp server
4229
4230			x Try not using it.
4231	root	1.387	%
4232	root	1.136	[http://www.politicalpulpit.com/Luke/LukeArchive0403.htm]
4233			The facts are simple: In Lynn, MA Principal of the Lynn English High
4234			School, Andrew Fila refused to allow teacher of English, Jeremy McKeen,
4235			to show the disputed film in his classes. McKeen had already submitted
4236			Moore's opus to his Department Head, Jane Balesta, for approval which she
4237			had given.
4238
4239			Said Fila, "I just pulled it. This is not the time nor the place to be
4240			showing something like that. The producer (Moore) is also an anti war
4241			person as well."
4242	root	1.387	%
4243	root	1.136	[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0254686/]
4244	root	1.388	"Ich habe keine Gefühle, merken sie sich das, Walter. Und wenn ich welche
4245			habe, werden sie nie über meine Intelligenz siegen".
4246	root	1.387	%
4247	root	1.388	["Was ist ein Kopierschutz überhaupt?"]
4248	root	1.135	[http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,270719,00.html]
4249	root	1.134
4250			Damit entspricht Windows der Definition eines illegalen Tools zur Umgehung
4251	root	1.388	des Kopierschutzes und müsste vom Markt genommen werden.
4252	root	1.135	[...]
4253	root	1.134	Das Bundesjustizministerium ist der Auffassung, dass die Frage nur durch
4254	root	1.388	ein Gericht zu klären sei. Das Programm "Windows" kenne man zu wenig.
4255	root	1.135	[...]
4256			Handelt es sich bei Windows also rechtlich um das Abwehren einer Straftat
4257			oder um das illegale Aushebeln eines Kopierschutzverfahrens?
4258	root	1.387	%
4259	root	1.134	http://www.nature.com/nsu/021209/021209-10.html#b1
4260	root	1.387	%
4261	root	1.132	[A document] Written to answer the often asked question about the requirements
4262			on the kernel to get a POSIX compliant thread implementation. And I don't
4263			mean an implementation like this horrible implementation from IBM.
4264			-- Ulrich Drepper
4265	root	1.387	%
4266	root	1.131	GCC generates truly horrible code when no optimization is enabled.
4267			-- Ulrich Drepper
4268	root	1.387	%
4269	root	1.131	Most programmers think that the programs they write are fairly well
4270			written and perform as good as possible. In most cases this is not
4271	root	1.133	correct. -- Ulrich Drepper
4272	root	1.387	%
4273	root	1.130	Even though I cannot accept the rejection of fair use rights by the film
4274			and music industry I cannot endorse piracy.
4275			-- Ulrich Drepper
4276	root	1.387	%
4277	root	1.130	Never say "PIC Code"!. This is duplication.
4278			-- Ulrich Drepper
4279	root	1.387	%
4280	root	1.129	[http://www.ffk.co.at/programme_ffksnetmanager.asp]
4281	root	1.388	Ping und Netsend laufen jetzt über die Windows API, daher schneller und
4282			zuverlässiger
4283	root	1.387	%
4284	root	1.129	[comment from linux/drivers/block/floppy.c]
4285			/*
4286			* 1999/08/13 -- Paul Slootman -- floppy stopped working on Alpha after 24
4287			* days, 6 hours, 32 minutes and 32 seconds (i.e. MAXINT jiffies; ints were
4288			* being used to store jiffies, which are unsigned longs).
4289			*/
4290	root	1.387	%
4291	root	1.128	[Microsoft creates a problem and inspires an industry to work around it.
4292			Just Great. Also learn about Microsoft Logic(tm): DLL's save memory, so
4293			you need to use them. But please use your own private versions of all your
4294			dlls so that they aren't shared...]
4295			http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnsetup/html/dlldanger1.asp
4296	root	1.387	%
4297	root	1.128	[http://lorrie.cranor.org/pubs/drm03.html]
4298			Pirating Movies
4299
4300			[...] The attackers aren't DVD owners making illegal copies and putting
4301			them on file sharing networks. The attackers are industry insiders making
4302			illegal copies long before the DVD is ever on the market.
4303	root	1.387	%
4304	root	1.128	[Look at the time scale...]
4305			http://www.networm.org/graphics/worm-progression.Sep03.pdf
4306	root	1.387	%
4307	root	1.127	[Just funny]
4308			http://www.zug.com/pranks/turnpike/
4309	root	1.387	%
4310	root	1.127	[http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,60391,00.html]
4311			The CEO of Symantec is advocating "legislation to criminalize the
4312			sharing of information and tools online that can be used by malicious
4313			hackers and virus writers." Doesn't he realize that most of his
4314			company's engineers would end up in jail?
4315	root	1.387	%
4316	root	1.126	[http://top40-charts.com/artist.php?aid=1145]
4317			Why is it you forgive Bush for saying "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET OSAMA".
4318			and "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET SADDAM". "I GUARANTEE THERE ARE WMD'S" etc
4319			etc. Yet now he could care less about them? Of course, Clinton lies about
4320			sex and that's a huge deal(not that i am justifying what Bubba did)
4321
4322			Why is it when the marines stormed in, they protected the oil fields but
4323			left all the other resources of Iraq to be looted?
4324
4325			Why is it that the White House doesn't want to release information on
4326			9/11, and only gave the investigation a $3 million budget?(it took $70
4327			million to find out Clinton got a BJ, and that's all they found out for
4328			$70 million!!). Meanwhile, even with a pathetic budget, the WH stonewalls
4329			the investigating committee. It's not enough for the WH to just underfund
4330			them, theyve got to make sure they can't get to any usefull information in
4331			the first place!
4332	root	1.387	%
4333	root	1.247	Buying a Unix machine guarantees you a descent into Hell. It starts when
4334			you plug the computer in and it won't boot. Yes, they really did sell you
4335			a $10,000 computer with an unformatted disk drive.
4336	root	1.125	-- Philip Greenspun
4337	root	1.387	%
4338	root	1.124	"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we
4339			don't believe in it at all." -- Noam Chomsky
4340	root	1.387	%
4341	root	1.124	"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right
4342			to say it." -- not actually from Voltaire
4343	root	1.387	%
4344	root	1.123	"Our ability to innovate is predicated on our ability to own the
4345			platform."
4346			[Kirk Koenigsbauer, strategy manager at Microsoft's MSN]
4347	root	1.387	%
4348	root	1.123	Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
4349			waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is that
4350			frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses
4351			and you can sitll raed it wiuthoit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not
4352			raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.
4353	root	1.320	[http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/personal/matt.davis/Cmabrigde/]
4354	root	1.387	%
4355	root	1.123	[The world is getting saner and saner. The whole world? No....]
4356			http://avirubin.com/vote.pdf
4357	root	1.387	%
4358	root	1.123	[http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1210067,00.asp]
4359			So what actually happens when your Windows XP machine crashes and asks
4360			if you want to send a report? The reports obviously accumulate in some
4361			database, and I can only assume that when one bin piles up with similar
4362			crash memos, the coders get to work. Exactly how many notifications does
4363			Microsoft get? Nobody knows for sure, but based on comments Bill Gates
4364			made at a recent meeting for analysts, the number must be astronomical.
4365			Gates said that 5 percent of Windows machines crash, on average, twice
4366			daily.
4367	root	1.387	%
4368	root	1.123	"...vielleicht praktisch manchmal auch mal geraten, das, wenn auch mal..."
4369	root	1.388	[Johann Gärtner, "Die Republikaner" bei einer Fernsehsendung über ihr
4370			Wahlprogramm. Das Zitat ist repräsentativ.]
4371	root	1.387	%
4372	root	1.123	[http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/rbt/condemn_text.htm]
4373			Critics of Congress and APA's concessions have analogized this situation
4374			to that of Galileo. At the APA's annual convention in August 1999 in
4375			Boston, an anonymous source, unknown to us, posted stickers around the
4376			convention that satirically read, "If the US Congress says that 'The sun
4377			revolves around the earth,' then that fact will be given most careful
4378			consideration in all articles published by the APA."
4379	root	1.387	%
4380	root	1.247	"It is insufficient to protect ourselves with laws; we need to protect ourselves with mathematics."
4381	root	1.123	-- Bruce Schneier
4382	root	1.387	%
4383	root	1.123	[it took me over 7 minutes to find this movie again on imdb...]
4384			[...so it must be good]
4385			http://german.imdb.com/title/tt0072131/
4386	root	1.387	%
4387	root	1.123	[mplayer/libmpcodecs/ad_realaud.c]
4388			[real uses a novel protection scheme...]
4389			raSetPwd(sh->context,"Ardubancel Quazanga"); // set password... lol.
4390	root	1.387	%
4391	root	1.120	[D-Info 3/2003 Database Dump]
4392			I've written a script that dumps the D-Info 2003 database as tsv to stdout.
4393			No idea why I announce it here...
4394	root	1.121	http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/data/dump-dinfo
4395	root	1.387	%
4396	root	1.119	[Oh My God!]
4397			Subject: aic7(censored) use after free in 2.5.66
4398	root	1.387	%
4399	root	1.119	[How many squares are on a go-board?]
4400	root	1.118	http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=UTF-8&client=googlet&selm=16394336.74521.15271%40kcbbs.gen.nz&rnum=2
4401	root	1.387	%
4402	root	1.117	[http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,1020303,00.html]
4403			When I first visited Russia, in 1986, I made friends with a musician whose
4404			father had been Brezhnev's personal doctor. One day we were talking about
4405			life during 'the period of stagnation' - the Brezhnev era. 'It must have
4406			been strange being so completely immersed in propaganda,' I said.
4407
4408			'Ah, but there is the difference. We knew it was propaganda,' replied
4409			Sacha.
4410	root	1.387	%
4411	root	1.116	[From CRYPTO-GRAM]
4412			A reader sent in this conversation he overheard at a corporate security
4413			desk one morning:
4414
4415			Employee: I have lost my photo-ID card, can I get a day pass please?
4416
4417			Security Guard: Certainly, what is your serial number?
4418
4419			Employee: 123456
4420
4421			[Security guard pulls up the details on his computer, which includes a
4422			photograph of the employee.]
4423
4424			Security Guard: Do you have a driver's license or another piece of
4425			identification which has your picture on it?
4426
4427			Employee: Why would you need that?
4428
4429			Security Guard: To match against our records.
4430
4431			Employee: A picture of my face?
4432
4433			Security Guard: Yes
4434
4435			Employee: This is my face -- I am wearing it on my head.
4436
4437			Security Guard: I need another piece of ID with a picture on it to
4438			compare against this one.
4439	root	1.387	%
4440	root	1.116	[Voting in the US might be in for surprises in the future]
4441			http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/voting.shtml
4442			[frankly, I don't trust any government if it's easy to fake votes]
4443	root	1.387	%
4444	root	1.116	MS Windows passwords can be cracked in an average of 13.6 seconds.
4445			Assuming your password consists of just letters and numbers, that is. But
4446			my guess is that almost everyone falls into that category.
4447
4448			<http://news.com.com/2100-1009_3-5053063.html>
4449			<http://lasecpc13.epfl.ch/ntcrack/>
4450	root	1.387	%
4451	root	1.123	Eppur si muove!
4452	root	1.387	%
4453	root	1.116	[bwahahaha]
4454			"RV K-17"
4455	root	1.387	%
4456	root	1.116	"We're the world's greatest superpower, but we have a Third World
4457			electricity grid," said New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson.
4458	root	1.387	%
4459	root	1.116	[where NOT to learn german :)]
4460			[http://www.berlitz.at/worldclub/reise-spanisch/]
4461			<= Es ist 10:45 Uhr / viertel vor elf / dreiviertel zehn.
4462			=> Son las once menos cuarto.
4463	root	1.387	%
4464	root	1.115	ceterum censeo carthaginem esse delendam
4465			ceterum censeo mundum non delendum esse
4466	root	1.387	%
4467	root	1.115	[http://www.urheberrecht.org/news/?id=1402&w=&p=1]
4468	root	1.388	Georgia Tornow, Generalsekretärin der Produzentenvereinigung film20 übt
4469			ebenfalls Kritik an der neuen Formulierung. »In anderen Ländern ist
4470	root	1.115	mitunter die Herstellung privater Kopien untersagt. Und in den USA wird
4471	root	1.388	sogar darüber nachgedacht, Geräte zur Kopienherstellung für illegal zu
4472			erklären«, so Tornow laut »blickpunktfilm.de«.
4473	root	1.387	%
4474	root	1.122	http://www.plif.com/archive/wc285.gif
4475	root	1.387	%
4476	root	1.115	[D-Info 2003, on my box:]
4477			Linux-Distribution nicht erkannt. Koennte RedHat sein.
4478	root	1.387	%
4479	root	1.115	[This patch removed the 75 records limit in D-Info 3/2003 linux for me]
4480			[patch dinfo.i386, YMMV]
4481			<00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba 4b00 0000 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
4482			>00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba ffff ff7f 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
4483	root	1.387	%
4484	root	1.115	[bwbasic-2.20pl2/bwbasic.doc]
4485			This program was originally begun in 1982 by my grandmother, Mrs.
4486			Verda Spell of Beaumont, TX. She was writing the program using
4487			an ANSI C compiler on an Osborne I CP/M computer and although my
4488			grandfather (Lockwood Spell) had bought an IBM PC with 256k of
4489			RAM my grandmother would not use it, paraphrasing George Herbert
4490			to the effect that "He who cannot in 64k program, cannot in 512k."
4491			She had used Microsoft BASIC and although she had nothing against
4492			it she said repeatedly that she didn't understand why Digital
4493			Research didn't "sue the socks off of Microsoft" for version 1.0
4494			of MSDOS and so I reckon that she hoped to undercut Microsoft's
4495			entire market and eventually build a new software empire on
4496			the North End of Beaumont. Her programming efforts were cut
4497			tragically short when she was thrown from a Beaumont to Port
4498			Arthur commuter train in the summer of 1986. I found the source
4499			code to bwBASIC on a single-density Osborne diskette in her knitting
4500			bag and eventually managed to have it all copied over to a PC
4501			diskette. I have revised it slightly prior to this release. You
4502			should know, though, that I myself am an historian, not a programmer.
4503	root	1.387	%
4504	root	1.114	[what high dan players in go think while playing:]
4505			"Must kill ... black stones ... black stones ... must die"
4506	root	1.387	%
4507	root	1.114	[the one and only time rcp failed for me, at the very end of the transfer]
4508			rcp: protocol screwup: mtime.sec not delimited
4509	root	1.387	%
4510	root	1.113	[Wasteland]
4511			Lester Moore,
4512			Shot in the head with a .44.
4513			No Les, no more.
4514	root	1.387	%
4515	root	1.113	[SSK@DFpkjvKWA0kGPZUgm9LkJE1jX4cPAgM/MattersPhallic/4//]
4516			Mormon advice on how to abstain from wanking
4517
4518			STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION
4519			[for the rest of this entertaining document see the freesite]
4520	root	1.387	%
4521	root	1.113	[Fallout]
4522			Here lies the body of Jonathan Blake
4523			Stepped on the gas instead of the brake
4524	root	1.387	%
4525	root	1.111	[http://www.counterpane.com/pptpv2-paper.html]
4526			As we will discuss later, multiple layers of hashing are used in the
4527			different steps of MS-CHAPv2. While this hashing serves to obscure some
4528			of the values, it is unclear what the cryptographic significance of them
4529			are. All they seem to do is to slow down the execution of the protocol.
4530	root	1.112	[...]
4531			It is unclear to us why this protocol is so complicated.
4532			[...]
4533			The Server concatenates the password-hash-hash, the 24-byte NT response,
4534			and the literal string "Magic server to client constant", and then hashes
4535			the result with SHA.
4536	root	1.387	%
4537	root	1.388	> Für viele wird interessant sein, dass ich bisher bei jedem Kunden
4538	root	1.111	> rechnerisch nachweisen konnte, dass OpenSource !immer! der teurere Weg
4539			> ist!
4540	root	1.388	Das bedeutet, daß durch Offenlegung des Source Codes eines Produkts
4541			plötzlich höhere Aufwände entstehen? Was für ein Kundensegment betreust
4542	root	1.111	Du denn? Analphabeten?
4543	root	1.387	%
4544	root	1.388	"Der Sun-Forte-Compiler ist näher am C++-Standard als G++"
4545			[Jörg Schilling, CeBit 2003]
4546	root	1.387	%
4547	root	1.109	17:21 <elmex> ok, sex kann ich nicht, aber ich kann vim und Perl ;)
4548	root	1.387	%
4549	root	1.108	[Biggest ping rtt I've ever seen]
4550			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=473 ttl=128 time=779.5 ms
4551			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=474 ttl=128 time=524.1 ms
4552			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=475 ttl=128 time=275.6 ms
4553			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=539 ttl=128 time=656365.4 ms
4554			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=540 ttl=128 time=655365.5 ms
4555	root	1.387	%
4556	root	1.108	[I once used a vped.conf from windows on linux, and then had to:]
4557			tcpdump -eni\\\\.\\{F2CB3DC8-1
4558	root	1.387	%
4559	root	1.107	[links are free ;)]
4560			http://knowthetruth.b0x.com/Bush_Family/Bush_-_Hitler/bush_-_hitler.html
4561	root	1.387	%
4562	root	1.106	[http://pobox.com/~oleg/MacHack96/]
4563			Can software development be elevated from the Microsoft style?
4564	root	1.387	%
4565	root	1.105	[openssl, crypto/evp/evp_enc.c]
4566
4567			/* One positive side-effect of US's export
4568			* control history, is that we should at least
4569			* be able to avoid using US mispellings of
4570			* "initialisation"? */
4571			EVPerr(EVP_F_EVP_CIPHERINIT, EVP_R_INITIALIZATION_ERROR);
4572	root	1.387	%
4573	root	1.105	[man pem]
4574			Although the PEM routines take several arguments in almost all applications most of them are set to 0 or NULL.
4575	root	1.387	%
4576	root	1.105	[pth_native.c]
4577
4578			/* ``If you can't do it in
4579	root	1.247	ANSI C, it isn't worth doing.''
4580	root	1.105	-- Unknown */
4581	root	1.387	%
4582	root	1.104	[subculture]
4583	root	1.388	... scorp sind lucker und use script lamer aber über cheater aufregen
4584			mehr nich und zu fünft in nem raum sitzen und dann public zocken und dann
4585	root	1.104	skillig vorkommen ...
4586
4587			[http://forum.topwebmaster.net/extern/de/Ricoohh/thread/9196-77365]
4588	root	1.424	%
4589	root	1.104	[back to the roots. you might not understand the following, but
4590			this list is about things _I_ find funny, not you... :)]
4591	root	1.247	00:16 <elmex> 'mit windows netzwerk zu debuggen ist ungefaehr so sinnvoll wie eine
4592	root	1.104	gehirnoperation mit einem vorschlaghammer'
4593	root	1.247	00:18 <oesi> elmex: da ich in deinem ignore bin, kann ich ja volltrottel sagen.
4594	root	1.104	ethereal rennt seit jahren unter win32
4595			00:18 <elmex> oesi: ja, aber netzwerk nicht ;)
4596	root	1.387	%
4597	root	1.103	[http://home.rhein-zeitung.de/~cknust/detroit/a-z/medikamt.htm]
4598	root	1.388	... Den Amerikanern sind Zäpfchen ebenso wie rektales Fiebermessen absolut
4599			suspekt; der Verdacht der Kinderschändung steht sofort unausgesprochen im
4600			Raum. Zäpfchen ("Suppositorium") werden allenfalls in der Notfallmedizin
4601	root	1.103	im Krankenhaus verwendet. Haben Sie ein Kind, das an Asthma oder
4602	root	1.388	Pseudo-Krupp-Anfällen leidet, bringen Sie sich einen entsprechenden Vorrat
4603			an Zäpfchen unbedingt mit, erwähnen Sie diese aber, soweit möglich, nicht
4604			vor amerikanischen Ärzten. ...
4605	root	1.387	%
4606	root	1.102	sendmail ist wie masturbation mit einer gurkenraspel, erzeugt viele spaene
4607			aber wenig freude.
4608	root	1.387	%
4609	root	1.102	[from a deviance.nfo, looking for new members, I think it's waaay funny]
4610			- you are a Unix guru with good Ansi-C software developing knowledge
4611			and understanding how to prevent network security vulnerabilities.
4612			That means you must be able to code to ansi-c guru level. And you
4613			must also have a good coder perspective of hostbase and network
4614			based intrusion detection systems. You should be able to code tools
4615			to generically prevent stack and heap buffer overflows on unix in
4616			Ansi-C. And Be able to code tools to look after a group of systems
4617			and code sniffing avoidance tools. And you can configure a system
4618			in ways to prevent packet sniffers and "man in the middle" attacks.
4619	root	1.387	%
4620	root	1.388	17:39 <schmorp> marco: flüge von hannover/dortmund [nach sofia] etc. sind glatt
4621			doppelt so teuer wie die gleichen von stuttgart/münchen/frankfurt
4622	root	1.101	17:39 <marco> schmorp: da wollen zu viele weg und zu wenig hin... also sind die
4623			fluege dort nur halb ausgelastet g
4624	root	1.387	%
4625	root	1.100	For me, this article simply illustrates that centralised trust models
4626			don't work well in practise.
4627			http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/12/09/021209opwinman.xml
4628	root	1.387	%
4629	root	1.99	[Rumsfeld in a CNN interview]
4630			There is an old saying, in the pentagon:
4631			"ready, fire, aim."
4632	root	1.387	%
4633	root	1.98	[...] You're allowed to resell the [windows] media but not the
4634			license. "Unfortunately" for Microsoft, this distinction is illegal in
4635			free countries like Germany [1].
4636			[...]
4637			Regards
4638			Henning
4639
4640			[1] The current german governement is actively trying to change this
4641			part of the german law. That's what you get for electing morons who
4642			might look good on TV. At this point, we're already on U.S. levels.
4643	root	1.387	%
4644	root	1.98	[...]
4645			The GPL does not restrict you. Contrary, it uses copyright law to
4646			establish a pool of software with much more freedom as copyright law gives
4647			to you. It only does not give you so much freedom to deny other people the
4648			same freedoms. The copyright holders can only do so, because copyright law
4649			itself give you none of these rights at all.
4650			[...]
4651			Wolfgang Walter
4652	root	1.387	%
4653	root	1.98	burro: i once played against a computer
4654			burro: it seemed very clever
4655			burro: but then all its groups died in yose
4656			burro: it forgot to defend later..
4657			burro: oops
4658			burro: accidental poetry
4659	root	1.387	%
4660	root	1.98	[about a go game between a pro player and some really good amateur,
4661			where white could have lived easily but decided to risk it]
4662			yoyoma [7k]: white is pro, rather die gloriosly than live in gote with a7!
4663	root	1.387	%
4664	root	1.98	[from the default config of the oh-so-broken unrealircd]
4665			#define BIG_SECURITY_HOLE
4666	root	1.387	%
4667	root	1.98	"In fact the whole of Japan is pure invention. There is no such country, there are no such people."
4668			-- Oscar Wilde
4669	root	1.387	%
4670	root	1.98	[a principle used in florida's law]
4671			"guilty until proven innocent"
4672			[http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/main.htm]
4673	root	1.387	%
4674	root	1.98	Wonderful news! A little Jewish woman, calling Mount Sinai Hospital,
4675			said, "Hello, darling, I'd like to talk with the person who gives the
4676			information regarding your patients. I want to know if the patient is
4677			getting better, or doing like expected, or is getting worse." The voice
4678			on the other end of the line said, "What is the patient's name and room
4679			number?" She said, "Yes, darling! she's Sarah Finkel, in Room 302." He
4680			said, "Oh, yes. Mrs. Finkel is doing very well. In fact, she's had two
4681			full meals, her blood pressure is fine, her blood work just came back
4682			as normal, she's going to be taken off the heart monitor in a couple of
4683			hours and if she continues this improvement, Dr. Cohen is going to send
4684			her home Tuesday at twelve o' clock." The woman said, "Thank God! That's
4685			wonderful! Oh! that's fantastic, darling!... That's wonderful news!" The
4686			man on the phone said, "From your enthusiasm, I take it you must be a
4687			close family member or a very close friend!" She said, "I'm Sarah Finkel
4688			in 302! My doctor doesn't tell me shit!
4689	root	1.387	%
4690	root	1.98	[gcc-3.2/.../sstream>
4691			// NB: Start ostringstream buffers at 512 bytes. This is an
4692			// experimental value (pronounced "arbitrary" in some of the
4693			// hipper english-speaking countries), and can be changed to
4694			// suit particular needs.
4695			_M_buf_size_opt = 512;
4696	root	1.387	%
4697	root	1.98	[members.aon.at/paulinchen/advtex/sanitar.htm]
4698			[Walkthrough SANITARIUM]
4699			... Deshalb suchst du erneut den Wassertempel auf. ... Dort haust du als
4700	root	1.388	Grimwall den Lukas ... Darauf hin öffnet der Clown seinen Mund und du
4701	root	1.98	kannst als Olmec die Melodie ...
4702	root	1.387	%
4703	root	1.97	[Onibaba - Great Movie]
4704			http://us.imdb.com/Title?0058430
4705	root	1.387	%
4706	root	1.97	[Kuroneko - I'd like to see :(]
4707			http://us.imdb.com/Title?0122136
4708	root	1.387	%
4709	root	1.96	[<Sesse> microsoft finally takes security seriously]
4710			[http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q276304]
4711			Error Message: Your Password Must Be at Least 18770 Characters and Cannot Repeat Any of Your Previous 30689 Passwords
4712	root	1.387	%
4713	root	1.96	GNU Emacs kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 11.300
4714			vi - Editor. Kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 2.333
4715	root	1.388	XML für Dummies. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 225.881
4716			JavaScript für Dummies. Dynamische Websites selbst gemacht. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 24.576
4717	root	1.387	%
4718	root	1.96	[http://kyushu.com/gleaner/editorspick/seppuku.shtml]
4719
4720			[...] Obviously you have to decide well in advance why you are doing
4721			[seppuku] [...] Resistance, remonstrance, show of loyalty, affirmation of
4722			the correctness of one's own position, expiation of a crime and the wiping
4723			out of disgrace are all perfectly good reasons; being refused a work visa
4724			is not [...]
4725	root	1.387	%
4726	root	1.247	Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd
4727	root	1.95	all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
4728			repetitive electronic music." --Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
4729	root	1.387	%
4730	root	1.94	[some hilights from:]
4731			[http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/Fachbegriffe.der.Informatik.html]
4732
4733	root	1.388	_Einfach erklärt_
4734	root	1.94
4735			GUI
4736			Ein Hintergrundbild und 12 Xterms
4737			Globale Variable
4738	root	1.388	Parameterübergabemechanismus in 4GLs
4739	root	1.94	objektorientiert
4740			Den Code habe ich von meinem Vorgaenger geerbt.
4741			strukturiert
4742			dieses Programm besteht aus mehreren Funktionen
4743			Multithreaded
4744	root	1.388	Wir mußten ein Flußdiagramm malen, um es zu debuggen.
4745	root	1.94	Windows 95
4746	root	1.388	Das Fortran 77 der Benutzungsoberflächen
4747	root	1.94	Emacs
4748	root	1.388	Ich habe ja auch nie bezweifelt, daß emacs ein tolles Betriebssystem
4749			ist. Aber um mit Linux oder Windows konkurrieren zu können, fehlt ihm
4750			ein vernünftiger Editor.
4751	root	1.94	IPv6
4752			$ telnet hundehalsband.georg.hunde.sonnenstrasse.muenchen.de
4753			Trying 942884947298374923847982472983. 2398749874987249247.
4754			2398472372349. 3249782374927898324. 2987238479874987398634.
4755			2987428901171209471. 23987432923. 23478987923.
4756	root	1.388	Die fünf Sinne des C++-Programmierers
4757			Der Schwachsinn, der Blödsinn, der Wahnsinn, der Unsinn und der Stumpfsinn.
4758	root	1.247	PHP
4759	root	1.388	Meine C-64-Basic-Übungen hat niemand zu Gesicht bekommen, während die
4760	root	1.94	in PHP verbrochenen Laufstall-Verunfallungen heutiger Milchgesichter
4761	root	1.388	die Welt verpesten und womöglich von Schlipstraeger-Deppen als
4762			e-Commerce-Lösung gekauft worden sind.
4763	root	1.247	Alleinstellungsmerkmal
4764	root	1.94	Bunt.
4765	root	1.388	Plattformunabhängig
4766			Wenn Du GWBASIC im Dos-Emulator laufen läßt bist Du auch
4767			plattformunabhängig! Du brauchst nur einen Dos-Emulator!
4768	root	1.95	[94: Copyright left out, too long, see original url]
4769	root	1.387	%
4770	root	1.93	[logic & fallacies]
4771			http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html
4772	root	1.387	%
4773	root	1.93	http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/library/wonderful/index.php
4774	root	1.387	%
4775	root	1.93	[nah]
4776			In the Arthur Penn film "Night Moves," someone asks Gene Hackman for an
4777			appraisal of Eric Rohmer's work, to which he replies, "it's like watching
4778			paint dry."
4779	root	1.387	%
4780	root	1.92	http://www2.psy.uq.edu.au/~jay/papers/thesis.pdf
4781			http://home.attbi.com/~bglodis/htmf/AI2-GO2.htm
4782			http://newyork.villageworld.com/users/bradleym/index.htm
4783	root	1.387	%
4784	root	1.178	[Keith Packard about some design holes in X that lead to XRender]
4785	root	1.91	The rules themselves may be broken, but their existence is of vital
4786			importance.
4787	root	1.387	%
4788	root	1.91	[http://cbbrowne.com/info/xpersonal.html]
4789			[_very_ good pages, read them all!]
4790			Many things have been hacked onto Win32; unfortunately, actually using
4791			Windows-based facilities has two massive detrimental effects:
4792
4793			You have to trust Microsoft.
4794
4795			There are a number of things that I would trust Microsoft with. I trust
4796			Microsoft to continue to release buggy software such as the Windows 98
4797			release that needed patches to survive to 1999, let alone 2000. I trust
4798			Microsoft to continue to release software that gets more bloated such
4799			that it requires as much memory as systems can support just to support
4800			useless chrome.
4801
4802			But control over whether my code will continue to be usable next year
4803			whether due to technical or licensing changes is not one of the things
4804			I'd like to trust them with.
4805	root	1.93	[...]
4806	root	1.387	%
4807	root	1.91	[when choosing "About" from the mozilla menu]
4808			[now, which OS let's us enjoy similar error messages all the time? ;)]
4809			XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
4810			Location: jar:resource:///chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/global/about.xhtml
4811			Line Number 90, Column 15:
4812	root	1.247	<li>Copyright © 1998-2002 by <a href="about:credits">Contributors</a> to
4813	root	1.91	--------------^
4814	root	1.387	%
4815	root	1.91	[from the kanon 10% english translation patch README]
4816			[http://haeleth.port5.com/]
4817			A Japanese effect not found in English is the wonderful verbless sentence,
4818			which I like so much that I've translated a few literally. I do know
4819			English grammar, I assure you.
4820	root	1.387	%
4821	root	1.91	Giant hornets regularly attack beehives. Typically, an attack begins when
4822			a single hornet captures a lone bee nearby the hive. After several of
4823			these perimeter skirmishes, one hornet leaves a marking pheromone at the
4824			hive's entrance. This pheromone attracts the other hornets, who arrive
4825			en masse and attack the beehive. The bees' stingers can't penetrate the
4826			hornets' armor, so it's a one-sided slaughter; something like 30,000 bees
4827			can be killed in a few hours by 30-40 hornets.
4828
4829			Japanese honeybees, however, have evolved an interesting defensive
4830			strategy. When a hornet marks the hive's entrance, the bees guarding the
4831			entrance return to the hive and wait for the attacking hornets. This has
4832			the effect of luring the first attacking hornets into the hive, rather
4833			than allowing them to start their attack outside. Simultaneously, over
4834			1000 worker bees in the hive leave the combs and mass just inside the
4835			hive's entrance. When a hornet tries to enter the hive, the workers
4836			surround it, forming a ball of bodies, and cook it to death with their
4837			body heat. The bees also release a pheromone that draws ever more bees
4838			from the hive's interior to come to the entrance and defend the nest.
4839
4840			This strategy must be perfect in order to be successful. If the bees fail
4841			in killing the first hornet attackers, then the hornet pheromone gets
4842			stronger, and more hornets arrive to reinforce their attack. By sheer
4843			numbers, the hornets can overpower the bees.
4844
4845			Source: Bernd Heinrich, "The Thermal Warriors: Strategies of Insect
4846			Survival," Harvard University Press, 1996.
4847	root	1.387	%
4848	root	1.91	[http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/csrss-backspace-bug.html]
4849			[fixed in latest service packs, but still funny ;)]
4850			The following neat little program, when compiled and run, will completely
4851			crash XP (and any earlier version of NT) (when I ran it, XP rebooted). I
4852			don't recommend you really try this program, but if you do, save all your
4853			work etc first:
4854
4855			#include <stdio.h>
4856
4857			int main (void) {
4858			while (1)
4859			printf ("\t\t\b\b\b\b\b\b");
4860
4861			return 0;
4862			}
4863	root	1.387	%
4864	root	1.91	[you might point your windows-using-friends to this page, it
4865			contains a lot of funny FUD ;)]
4866	root	1.90	http://www.hevanet.com/peace/microsoft.htm
4867	root	1.387	%
4868	root	1.90	[http://eros.cs.jhu.edu/~shap/NT-EAL4.html]
4869			Security experts have been saying for years that the the security of
4870			the Windows family of products is hopelessly inadequate. Now there is a
4871			rigorous government certification confirming this.
4872	root	1.387	%
4873	root	1.89	[mms_client after finishing the download]
4874			everything done. Thank you for downloading a media file containing
4875			proprietary and patentend technology.
4876	root	1.387	%
4877	root	1.88	I wouldn't want to win the Steven Spielberg Award - he is an amateur!
4878	root	1.388	-- Aki Kaurismäki
4879	root	1.387	%
4880	root	1.87	[http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/godel.html]
4881	root	1.388	"The Gödelian structure of the unity of levels of Reality associated
4882	root	1.87	with the logic of the included middle implies that it is impossible to
4883			construct a complete theory for describing the passage from one level to
4884			the other and, a fortiori, for describing the unity of levels of Reality."
4885	root	1.387	%
4886	root	1.388	1. Das von den Parteien eingeführte Listenwahlrecht verstößt gegen
4887			Art. 38, Abs. 1, Satz 1 Grundgesetz (GG): »Die Abgeordneten des Deutschen
4888	root	1.87	Bundestages werden in allgemeiner, unmittelbarer, freier, gleicher und
4889	root	1.388	geheimer Wahl gewählt.« Danach muß es dem Bürger möglich sein, seinen
4890			Abgeordneten unmittelbar zu wählen. Die Wahl von Parteienlisten ist also
4891	root	1.87	verfassungswidrig, nicht zuletzt deshalb, weil hierbei Kandidaten zum Zuge
4892	root	1.388	kommen, die der Listenwähler nicht wählen will.
4893	root	1.87
4894	root	1.388	2. Der Fraktionszwang verstößt ebenfalls gegen das Grundgesetz. Satz
4895			2 des Art. 38, Abs. 1, lautet nämlich: »Sie (die Abgeordneten) sind
4896			Vertreter des ganzen Volkes, an Aufträge und Weisungen nicht gebunden
4897			und nur ihrem Gewissen unterworfen.« Wenn Fraktionsvorsitzende den frei
4898			gewählten Abgeordneten einer Fraktionsdisziplin unterwerfen (und das noch
4899			unter Androhung von Sanktionen), erteilen sie Weisungen darüber, wie die
4900	root	1.87	Abgeordneten der Partei abzustimmen haben. Es handelt sich dann um eine
4901			Form fraktionsinternen imperativen Mandats.
4902
4903	root	1.388	3. Die überbordende Staatsverschuldung (vor allem im Bund) verstößt gegen
4904			Art. 115 des GG. Darin heißt es in Abs. 1, Satz 2: »Die Einnahmen aus
4905			Krediten dürfen die Summe der im Haushaltsplan veranschlagten Ausgaben für
4906			Investitionen nicht überschreiten; Ausnahmen sind nur zulässig zur Abwehr
4907			einer Störung des gesamtwirtschaftlichen Gleichgewichts.« Unter Fachleuten
4908			besteht nicht der geringste Zweifel, daß das vorgeschriebene Kreditlimit
4909			(Höhe der »Ausgaben für Investitionen«) durch Haushaltstricks sträflich
4910			überschritten wurde. Die Folge: Im Jahre 2001 erreichte die Verschuldung
4911			der Gebietskörperschaften die unvorstellbare Höhe von 1.210 Mrd. Euro (im
4912			Bund: 700 Mrd. Euro); das sind 79 Prozent des jährlichen Volkseinkommens
4913	root	1.87	von 1.531 Mrd. Euro.
4914	root	1.387	%
4915	root	1.87	[just FMI (for my information)]
4916			http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7eflavell/charset/form-i18n.html
4917	root	1.387	%
4918	root	1.87	[perldoc perlboot]
4919			Typically, each @ISA has only one element (multiple elements means
4920			multiple inheritance and multiple headaches)
4921	root	1.387	%
4922	root	1.87	[I find that all this stallman-bashing is a sure sign that that
4923			"linux" thing will fail]
4924			In lists.linux.kernel.development, Larry McVoy wrote:
4925			[...]
4926	root	1.247	Richard Stallman started the free software foundation. He built the
4927	root	1.87	compiler, library and zillions of other tools that developers use on a day
4928			to day basis. He slept at the offices of MIT while he spent his time,
4929			effort and money building up the Free Software Foundation.
4930
4931			Though many people differ with him on a wide variety of issues, he
4932			deserves respect from all because he has devoted twenty years of his
4933			life to the public good.
4934
4935			You, on the other hand, develop and sell a proprietary software product.
4936			You convinced a large number of kernel developers (most importantly
4937			Linus himself) to use your proprietary product to develop free software,
4938			so that you could tell potential customers "Gee! Look how great my
4939			software is! It's used to develop the linux kernel!"
4940
4941			You don't care about free software Larry. You're just glad that you have
4942			a poster child to display your effort. Want proof? Look at how you have
4943			treated numerous kernel developers when you found out that they worked
4944			on free software projects that could potentially compete with your
4945			software some day -- you revoke their "free" license to use your
4946			software to work on the linux kernel!
4947
4948			Richard is trying to change the world into a better place. You, however,
4949			are trying to get rich, and you're using free software as a stepping
4950			stone to promote your proprietary software. Nothing wrong with getting
4951			rich of course -- I'd love to be rich too. But you certainly don't
4952			deserve to be lumped into the same group as RMS.
4953	root	1.387	%
4954	root	1.86	[perldoc perlreftut]
4955	root	1.247	What does line 4 do here?
4956			[...]
4957			This is Perl, so it does the exact right thing.
4958	root	1.387	%
4959	root	1.86	[perldoc perlreftut]
4960			Think of the President of the United States: a messy, inconvenient bag of
4961			blood and bones. But to talk about him, or to represent him in a computer
4962			program, all you need is the easy, convenient scalar string "George Bush".
4963	root	1.387	%
4964	root	1.86	[rise and fall of free software standards]
4965	root	1.247	* GNU Gettext and %expect
4966			GNU Gettext asserts 10 s/r conflicts, but there are 7. Now that
4967			Bison dies on incorrect %expectations, we fear there will be
4968			too many bug reports for Gettext, so _for the time being_, %expect
4969			does not trigger an error when the input file is named `plural.y'.
4970	root	1.387	%
4971	root	1.86	Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers.
4972			-- Leonard Brandwein
4973	root	1.387	%
4974	root	1.85	[11:57] <schmorp> email@wanadoo.fr
4975	root	1.247	[11:57] <schmorp> you know what wannados are?
4976			[11:58] <Arvoreen> the french pendant of aol users ??
4977			[11:58] <schmorp> nope
4978			[11:58] <Arvoreen> then no clue
4979			[11:58] <schmorp> "people who fail before they even try"
4980			[12:00] <Zeograd> wanadoo was actually named following this idea, sigh
4981			[12:00] <schmorp> not really, yes?
4982			[12:00] <Zeograd> yes
4983			[12:00] <schmorp> ;);)
4984			[12:03] <schmorp> that "yes" sounded really painful
4985			[12:03] <Zeograd> more than you could imagine :)
4986	root	1.387	%
4987	root	1.247	[11:37] <Arvoreen> Oui mon francais est un peu
4988			[11:38] <Zeograd> Arvoreen: not bad, it doesn't mean much but it sounds french :)
4989	root	1.387	%
4990	root	1.84	A Russian hacker was sentenced to three years in prison here in the
4991			United States for breaking computer crime laws here. It's an
4992			interesting story. He was in Russia at the time, and broke no laws in
4993			his country. However, the U.S. prosecution broke Russian laws to
4994			collect evidence against him. The judge agreed with the FBI's
4995			assertion that Russian law didn't apply to them. Isn't international
4996			jurisprudence fun?
4997			<http://in.tech.yahoo.com/021005/137/1w2bq.html>
4998	root	1.387	%
4999	root	1.247	[02:58] <Sesse> microsoft finally gets it:
5000			[02:58] <Sesse> Visual Basic .NET delivers the feature most requested by existing Visual Basic
5001			[02:58] <Sesse> developers--fewer bugs in the code they write.
5002	root	1.84	[...]
5003	root	1.247	[03:00] <Sesse> "VB programmers have finally found out they lack talent, and blame Microsoft" ;-)
5004	root	1.387	%
5005	root	1.84	[found at www.imdb.com]
5006			the trouble with the global village are all the global village idiots.
5007			- Paul Ginsparg.
5008	root	1.387	%
5009	root	1.84	prionbrain: A joke I just read: " A girl phoned me the other day and
5010			said, .. come on over, there's nobody home. I went over. There was nobody
5011			home.":))
5012			[erm...]
5013	root	1.387	%
5014	root	1.84	> described above, CONFIG_XBOX_SUPPORT will depend on CONFIG_PCI.
5015
5016	root	1.247	Which seems fair enough. ISA bus X-box systems are suprisingly rare
5017	root	1.387	%
5018	root	1.247	[05:06] <elmex> windows has 2 left hands when it comes to being an OS
5019	root	1.387	%
5020	root	1.83	[http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/mml/mduerst/papers/PDF/IUC11-UTF-8.pdf]
5021
5022			[...] In particular, the following behaviour proposed or observed in some
5023			implementations is not UTF-8 and should never be presented as such. First,
5024			UTF16 surrogate pairs could be encoded in UTF-8 as two sequences of 3
5025			bytes each (this behaviour is observed in some Java implementations).
5026	root	1.387	%
5027	root	1.83	.+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+''
5028			/ \ / \ / \ / \ /
5029			.+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+'
5030	root	1.387	%
5031	root	1.82	From: "David S. Miller"
5032	root	1.83
5033			> Then shouldn't the thing thats different from the norm be programmed into a header file which contains how certain functions should be+++
5034	root	1.82
5035			If I gave you a dollar, would you go out and buy some newlines
5036			to use in future emails?
5037	root	1.387	%
5038	root	1.82	Could somebody drag the Irix team kicking and screaming into the 1980's,
5039			please?
5040
5041			I realize it might be quite painful for them, but maybe you could buy them
5042			a disco tape, so they'd feel a little bit more at home.
5043
5044	root	1.247	Linus "Stayin' alive, stayin' alive" Torvalds
5045	root	1.387	%
5046	root	1.82	Yesterday, the local Brazilian authorities signed a decree stating that the
5047			Brazilian daylight saving period will start on November 3rd 2002 and will
5048			last until February 16th 2003.
5049
5050			So, clocks will be set one hour forward on November 3rd (12:00 a.m. will be
5051			changed to 1:00 a.m.) and at midnight (0:00 am) on February 16th, Brazil
5052			will adjust its clocks back one hour (23:00 pm on Feb 15th) marking the
5053			end.
5054
5055			The reason for the delay this year has to do with elections in Brazil.
5056
5057			Unlike in the United States, elections in Brazil are 100% computerized and
5058			the results are known almost immediately. Yesterday, it was the first
5059			round of the elections when 115 million Brazilians voted for President,
5060			Governor, Senators, Federal Deputies, and State Deputies. Nobody is
5061			counting (or re-counting) votes anymore and we know there will be a second
5062			round for the Presidency and also for some Governors. The 2nd round will
5063			take place on October 27th.
5064
5065			The reason why the DST will only begin November 3rd is that the thousands
5066			of electoral machines used cannot have their time changed, and since the
5067			Constitution says the elections must begin at 8:00 AM and end at 5:00 PM ,
5068			the Government decided to postpone DST, instead of changing the
5069			Constitution (maybe, for the next elections, it will be possible to change
5070			the clock)...
5071	root	1.387	%
5072	root	1.81	[boycot your enemies]
5073			> We're a business. We're a business which happens to be committed to
5074			> helping the kernel team because we think that the kernel is vital to the
5075			> world at large. Helping the kernel absolutely does not translate to
5076			> helping people who happen to be our competitors. By your own
5077
5078			Stop lying. Your job is to make lots of money and you are using Linux as
5079			cheap advertising. You are trying to make people pay you to do kernel
5080			development (as it stands you want $5000 for any bk-using developer inside
5081			RedHat and SuSE).
5082
5083			I hope your company dies ASAP and bitkeeper stops poisoning air here.
5084
5085			Pavel
5086	root	1.387	%
5087	root	1.81	Rik
5088	root	1.247	--
5089	root	1.81	A: No.
5090			Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?
5091	root	1.387	%
5092	root	1.81	> Incidently unlimited permission is granted to use disks containing only
5093	root	1.247	> GNU/Linux software as footballs without royalties. All other usage of
5094			> disks as footballs will be considered on a per case basis.
5095	root	1.81
5096			I would be inclined to allow this for Windows drives instead. They contain
5097			no useful data.
5098
5099	root	1.247	--
5100	root	1.81	bill davidsen
5101	root	1.387	%
5102	root	1.80	In the switching software (written in C)
5103			there was a long do..while construct,
5104			which contained a switch statement,
5105			which contained an if clause,
5106			which contained a break,
5107			which was intended for the if clause,
5108			but instead broke from the switch statement.
5109
5110			- Network message explaining the breakdown of the AT&T long-distance
5111			network January 15, 1990
5112	root	1.387	%
5113	root	1.80	[From "password retrieval policies" of some irc network:]
5114
5115	root	1.247	They are likely to continue asking for the password, even after you have
5116			told them that it has been E-Mailed. /Ignore the stupid user. /Kick the
5117			stupid user. Do not /Kill the stupid user, since being stupid is not a
5118			violation of network policies.
5119	root	1.80
5120			[the same document, explaining K:Lines]
5121
5122			K:Lines - These lines define which clients are not allowed to connect.
5123			The format is as follows:
5124
5125			K:*.aol.com:AOL sucks:lamer
5126	root	1.387	%
5127	root	1.79	[Microsoft's Craig Mundie on security.]
5128			"People confuse 'security' and Trustworthy Computing."
5129			http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/features/2002/feb02/02-20mundieqa.asp
5130	root	1.387	%
5131	root	1.79	http://staging.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/09/05/020905hnmssecure.xml
5132			"I'm not proud," [Brian] Valentine [senior vice president in charge of
5133			Microsoft's Windows development team] said, as he spoke to a crowd of
5134			developers here at the company's Windows .Net Server developer
5135			conference. "We really haven't done everything we could to protect our
5136			customers ... Our products just aren't engineered for security."
5137			...
5138			"If you go back a few years, unless you were working on login at
5139			Microsoft, you really didn't worry about security. The risk wasn't worth
5140			the effort."
5141	root	1.387	%
5142	root	1.79	http://www.satirewire.com/news/aug02/encryption.shtml
5143	root	1.387	%
5144	root	1.79	[please bear with me and understand that I didn't intend to drive
5145			gay people mad at me with this one...]
5146	root	1.78	[10:16] <pixelpapst> Wenn man ihn mal mit so 'nem richtigen Bilderbuch-Schwulen wie
5147	root	1.247	Lukas vergleicht :)
5148			[10:16] <elmex> Lukas is net schwul, er is Consultant
5149	root	1.387	%
5150	root	1.76	http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/tenseg1.html
5151	root	1.387	%
5152	root	1.76	http://24.86.132.253/090101/feature/feature.htm
5153	root	1.387	%
5154	root	1.76	I maintain a /bin/ps that supports BSD, SysV, and Gnu syntax all at the
5155			same time. It requires Linux. This one works; the Red Hat one is broken.
5156			[Albert Cahalan]
5157	root	1.387	%
5158	root	1.75	The Berkeley shell csh is reasonably well known and widely used and its
5159			externals have been subject to some criticism. The internals of csh are at
5160			least as bad, but lesser known.
5161	root	1.387	%
5162	root	1.75	There are billions of different ways of parsing argv, the list of command
5163			line arguments passed to a C program. The problem is that they are all
5164			different.
5165	root	1.387	%
5166	root	1.75	A common disease in programs written at Berkeley is to open /dev/kmem and grub the load averages out by the dirtiest means possible.
5167	root	1.387	%
5168	root	1.76	[no, I still don't like bondage & discipline]
5169			http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/~geldridg/eiffel/liberty/meyer-bertrand/java/bm-2nd.html
5170	root	1.387	%
5171	root	1.74	[about the early CD-R dyes]
5172			The early, immature media caused some interesting problems. A certain
5173			popular Technics CD player, often used in radio stations, had a bad habit
5174			of accepting the early media, but refusing to eject it, causing much
5175			consternation to disc jockeys who were left without a player and possibly
5176			without a show.
5177	root	1.387	%
5178	root	1.76	[more of a timestamp]
5179	root	1.73	"SANS, SOUCI"
5180	root	1.387	%
5181	root	1.72	http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/canthappen.html
5182	root	1.387	%
5183	root	1.71	The Ten Commandments for C Programmers
5184			http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/commandments.html
5185	root	1.387	%
5186	root	1.71	[Bruce Schneier]
5187			A bill introduced into Congress gives copyright holders -- that's the RIAA,
5188			the MPAA, and similar guys -- the right to break into people's computers if
5189	root	1.247	they have a reasonable basis to believe that copyright infringement is
5190	root	1.71	going on.
5191			[...]
5192	root	1.247	People they choose to target would be deemed guilty until proven
5193			otherwise. In short, this bill would set up the entertainment industry
5194			as a Gestapo-like enforcement agency with no oversight.
5195	root	1.387	%
5196	root	1.70	[06:20] <Draxxon> BTW, (being from the USA) If pro is the grammatical
5197			opposite of con, then the opposite of "progress" would be... "Congress"???
5198	root	1.387	%
5199	root	1.247	You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
5200	root	1.387	%
5201	root	1.69	http://www29.compaq.com/falco/detail.asp?FAQnum=FAQ2859
5202	root	1.387	%
5203	root	1.69	[practical go humor]
5204			Lantu: ok any suggestions for good practical jokes to play on Pro's? :]
5205			id: Make a line of five stones, yell "Pente", and insist you've won.
5206	root	1.387	%
5207	root	1.68	[windows API rocks]
5208			The FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS enumeration type defines values that are used with
5209			the FindFirstFileEx function to specify the information level of the
5210			returned data.
5211
5212	root	1.247	typedef enum _FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS {
5213			FindExInfoStandard
5214			} FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS ;
5215	root	1.387	%
5216	root	1.388	[Arvoreen philosophiert über die Verkleinerung von GNOME mit strip]
5217	root	1.67	[05:10] <Arvoreen> 153MB gestripped und vorher 541MB
5218			[05:13] <Arvoreen> oder wie der Wirtschaftswissenschaftler sagen wuerde um 354%
5219	root	1.247	kleiner ;-)))))) (die haben ja die prozente oberhalb von 100 erfunden)
5220	root	1.387	%
5221	root	1.66	[Microsoft documents how file types are detected in IE. No wonder
5222			it doesn't work:]
5223			1. If the "suggested" (server-provided) MIME type is unknown (not
5224			known and not ambiguous), FindMimeFromData immediately returns
5225			this MIME type as the final determination.
5226	root	1.387	%
5227	root	1.65	[freshmeat. And this release even adds ANOTHER codepage. I am impressed]
5228
5229			Recode 0.1.1
5230			by Eugene V. Chernyshev - Friday, June 28th 2002 01:58 EDT
5231
5232			About: Recode is a fast Russian codepage translator. It translates between
5233			three different codepages: DOS 866, Windows CP-1251, and UNIX KOI8-R.
5234
5235			Changes: This release adds an ISO-8859-5 codepage.
5236	root	1.387	%
5237	root	1.65	http://www.tmk.com/ftp/humor/computer-error-messages.txt
5238	root	1.387	%
5239	root	1.64	$S=eval'sub{eval"sub{%S}"}';$S->({});
5240	root	1.387	%
5241	root	1.64	[From CRYPTO-GRAM]
5242
5243			Microsoft's "Trustworthy Computing" initiative seems to be
5244			just a scam so the company can avoid antitrust remedies by
5245			claiming that opening their systems is a security risk. Pity.
5246			<http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s=701%26a=26605,00.asp>
5247			<http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D701%2526a%253D26875,00.asp>
5248			A comment on Slashdot sums it up best: "Microsoft has therefore taken
5249			the position that their code is so bad that it must be kept secret to
5250			keep people from being killed by it. Windows -- the Pinto of the 21st
5251			century."
5252
5253			Most interesting of the two articles above is the second eWeek article,
5254			where Microsoft's Allchin mentions "at least one protocol and two APIs
5255			that it plans to withhold from public disclosure under the security
5256			carve-out." The protocol is Message Queuing. Apparently, Microsoft
5257			has discovered a security flaw in the Message Queuing protocol so bad
5258			that can't be fixed without breaking existing applications. So, until
5259			such time as they can field a backwards-compatible fix, they're going
5260			to hope no one else discovers it. (This is not a wholly unreasonable
5261			decision; security researchers have made the same decision in the
5262			past.) Of course, Allchin has undermined this decision by publicly
5263			naming the protocol. That's more than enough for someone sufficiently
5264			motivated to find the flaw. In the classified world, you can get your
5265			clearance pulled for blabbing like that. Jim Allchin's testimony:
5266			<http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/trial/mswitness/2002/allchin.asp>
5267
5268			At the same time, Microsoft tries to convince the Pentagon that open source
5269			software threatens security, and using proprietary Microsoft software is
5270			much safer (and better for the economy, to boot). This article is
5271			hilarious in light of the above.
5272			<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60050-2002May22.html>
5273
5274			A report on something called a Tactical Web Page, which purports to be a
5275			secret combat Web site, through which American commanders in the United
5276			States can direct troops in Afghanistan. My favorite quote: "'There have
5277			been a few instances when unidentified computers have tried to get in, in
5278			which case we throw up additional firewalls,' Lt. Col. Bryan Dyer
5279			said." Is it just me, or does Lt. Col. Dyer come from I-Don't-Get-It Land?
5280			<http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,52861,00.html>
5281
5282			Yet more comments from the clueless. In response to the report that
5283			someone hacked into Experian's database and stole 13,000 credit-card
5284			numbers, a PR flack said: "Our files are protected by state-of-the-art,
5285			Star Wars-style security and encryption technology."
5286	root	1.65	<http://www.lendingintelligence.com/news.ez?viewStory=1123&Form.sess_id=845521234&Form.sess_key=1022430845>
5287	root	1.387	%
5288	root	1.64	http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,52901,00.html
5289	root	1.387	%
5290	root	1.388	ich: ich hätte gerne ein nummernschild in unna: "un-ix 123"
5291			zotan: sei froh, daß du nicht in wiesbaden wohnst: "wi-n 95"
5292	root	1.387	%
5293	root	1.63	"There are two ways of constructing a piece of software: One is to make it
5294			so simple that there are obviously no errors, and the other is to make it
5295			so complicated that there are no obvious errors."
5296
5297			Tony Hoare
5298	root	1.387	%
5299	root	1.388	Nach dem Gesetz über Einheiten im Meßwesen vom 2. Juli 1969 in der Fassung
5300			vom 22. Februar 1985 dürfte Word im geschäftlichen und amtlichen Verkehr
5301	root	1.63	_nicht_ eingesetzt werden, da es mit dem Punkt eine nicht-SI-konforme
5302	root	1.388	Maßeinheit verwendet.
5303	root	1.387	%
5304	root	1.63	From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5305
5306			[...]
5307			The Nforce is basically completely unsupported by 2.2. It is mostly unsupported
5308			by 2.4. The networking built into the chipset is not supported by either
5309			system. Basically its windows computer
5310	root	1.387	%
5311	root	1.63	[go figure...]
5312	root	1.247	<JanMan> read(3, 0x8102cc8, 32768) = -1 ESRCH (No such process)
5313	root	1.387	%
5314	root	1.63	Subject: Re: Off topic: Solaris 9 announced, a lot of Linux incorporated
5315
5316			> In today's world of heterogeneous computing, compatibility leads
5317			> to efficiency. Combining the Linux community with thousands of
5318			> Solaris software developers and nearly three million Java and XML
5319			> software developers...
5320
5321			Homeopathic approach to software development?
5322	root	1.387	%
5323	root	1.63	> > Patch is severely broken in its current form, not only for the
5324			> > reasons you stated, but also because of its inability to handle
5325			> > renaming in any sane way. I want a patch --sane option.
5326			>
5327			> I bet BitKeeper gets it right... ;-) ;-) ;-)
5328
5329			Funny you should mention that, since Bitkeeper has embarrassed itself pretty
5330			badly with respect to patches, so far.
5331
5332			- Somebody decided to add another level on top of the linux root directory
5333			in their source directory. I can't import patches into that.
5334
5335			- I can apply patches to bitkeeper repository using the normal 'patch',
5336			but Bitkeeper gets its revenge later, as each bk edit command starts
5337			off by throwing away the patch.
5338
5339			Given the hype, I expected more. I want a tool to save work for me, not
5340			create new work. I don't think I'll be using Bitkeeper as a substitute for
5341			patch any time soon.
5342
5343			--
5344			Daniel
5345	root	1.387	%
5346	root	1.62	From: "Miquel van Smoorenburg" <miquels@cistron.nl>
5347			Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 23:18:34 +0000 (UTC)
5348			[...]
5349			Bummer, I'm using Debian, and iostat is in woody (frozen, about to
5350			be released) - that means Debian users will have to wait to the
5351			next release, another two years perhaps, before iostat gets working.
5352	root	1.387	%
5353	root	1.62	[no comments ;)]
5354
5355			I've installed kernel 2.5.15 (should include aio support) an libaio (0.3.7).
5356			It seams that libaio.so depends on libredhat-kernel.so.1. Why?
5357			Is it realy needed?
5358	root	1.387	%
5359	root	1.62	[W. Richard Stevens about the 3.2 streams "poll" function:]
5360
5361			int poll(struct pollfd *fdarray, unsigned long nfds, int timeout);
5362
5363			[...] The number of elements in the array of structures [...] is
5364			specified by the nfds argument. (Why this argument is specified as
5365			an unsigned long integer, and not a simple integer, is perplexing.)
5366	root	1.387	%
5367	root	1.62	[www.intel.com]
5368			Over 70 Internet Streaming Single Instruction Multiple Data (SIMD)
5369			extensions enhance streaming multimedia and graphics applications, both on
5370			the hard drive and over the Internet. With SIMD, audio and video
5371			download faster, with clearer sound quality, deeper color and resolution,
5372			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
5373			and enlarged images with smoother frame rates.
5374	root	1.387	%
5375	root	1.61	From: Alexander Viro
5376
5377			On Thu, 9 May 2002, Tomas Szepe wrote:
5378			> > I did quite a bit of this work for CML2 - bus dependencies can be
5379			> > found in the CML2 sources.
5380			>
5381			> Btw, what happened to CML2?
5382
5383			This is an ex-parrot
5384	root	1.387	%
5385	root	1.61	From: David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>
5386
5387			> > It doesn't have to be an O(n lg(n)) method but could you use something
5388			> > besides bubblesort? Insertion sort, selection sort, etc. are just as
5389			> > easy and they don't have the horrific stigma of being "the worst sorting
5390			> > algorithm ever" etc.
5391			>
5392			> Surely the worst (working) sort is randomsort? (Check if sorted. If not,
5393			> pick two entries at random, exchange, retry.)
5394
5395			I've always been a fan of bit-decay sort.
5396
5397			while (!sorted(data))
5398			;
5399	root	1.387	%
5400	root	1.61	Subject: Re: Bitkeeper licence issues
5401			From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5402
5403			> This should be a reflex for someone with such a Sun heritage like you...
5404
5405			You obviously never used SunOS4. Its a bit before security became relevant
5406			to computing
5407	root	1.387	%
5408	root	1.61	From: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
5409
5410			On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:05:39 -0500, joeja@mindspring.com wrote:
5411			>What limits the number of threads one can have on a Linux system?
5412
5413			Common sense, one would hope.
5414	root	1.387	%
5415	root	1.61	From: Toon Moene
5416			[...]
5417
5418			Obviously, the only way I could support this effort is by rewriting the
5419			backend to use FORTRAN; that way it would finally be possible to
5420			translate the Linux kernel into FORTRAN and vindicate this:
5421
5422			http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/chist.html
5423
5424			"Challenged by McIlroy's feat in reproducing TMG, Thompson decided that
5425			Unix - possibly it had not even been named yet - needed a system
5426			programming language. After a rapidly scuttled attempt at Fortran, he
5427			created instead a language of his own, which he called B"
5428
5429			:-)
5430	root	1.387	%
5431	root	1.247	"... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that,
5432			lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of
5433			their C programs."
5434	root	1.60
5435			Robert Firth
5436	root	1.387	%
5437	root	1.59	[miri@ccc.de]
5438	root	1.388	Moooooment, das sind zwei Sachen die miteinander zusammenhängen...
5439	root	1.59	[and after some quarrel...]
5440			Ich lasse mich ungern zitieren!
5441	root	1.387	%
5442	root	1.68	[Klaus Knopper, and no, I don't think this, to the contrary :(]
5443	root	1.388	Ich bin Marc Lehmann begegnet, und seitdem glaube ich, er hält mich für blöd.
5444	root	1.387	%
5445	root	1.57	[Content-Type used by Microsoft for .exe files]
5446			Content-Type: application/x-msdownload
5447	root	1.387	%
5448	root	1.68	[from windows' wininet.h]
5449	root	1.56	#define ERROR_INTERNET_INSERT_CDROM (INTERNET_ERROR_BASE + 53)
5450	root	1.387	%
5451	root	1.388	Für die Erkenntnis, dass Perl produktivitätssteigernd wirkt, kämpfe ich hier
5452	root	1.56	in meinem Laden allerdings noch. Interessanterweise sind die Leute, die
5453			selber programmieren, mittlerweile fast alle auf meiner Seite; die Leute,
5454	root	1.388	dir organisieren und selber gar nicht programmieren können, halten Perl für
5455			eine Art Spielzeug, oder für ein Quick-and-Dirty-Tool, das man bei
5456	root	1.56	erstbester Gelegenheit durch etwas professionelles ersetzen muss (was
5457			vermutlich von Microsoft stammt).
5458
5459			Aber ich arbeite weiter dran...
5460
5461			\Gisbert
5462	root	1.387	%
5463	root	1.55	http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
5464	root	1.387	%
5465	root	1.55	P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the
5466			world like English did. Er, as English did...
5467			--Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393@wall.org>
5468	root	1.387	%
5469	root	1.54	From: Felix von Leitner <usenet-20020216@fefe.de>
5470			Subject: Re: Disgusted with kbuild developers
5471
5472			I don't have python. Any version of python.
5473			[...]
5474	root	1.387	%
5475	root	1.54	[perldoc Test::Harness]
5476			Additional comments may be put into the testing output on their own lines.
5477			Comment lines should begin with a '#', Test::Harness will ignore them.
5478
5479			ok 1
5480			# Life is good, the sun is shining, RAM is cheap.
5481			not ok 2
5482			# got 'Bush' expected 'Gore'
5483	root	1.387	%
5484	root	1.54	I specialize in storage, and C is self taught.
5485
5486			Cheers,
5487
5488			Andre Hedrick
5489			Linux Disk Certification Project Linux ATA Development
5490	root	1.387	%
5491	root	1.54	> > The new lock uses a combination of a spinlock and a (mutex-)semaphore.
5492	root	1.247	>
5493	root	1.54	> Spinaphore :-)
5494
5495			Or mutabloat :-(
5496	root	1.387	%
5497	root	1.54	Microsoft Outlook IS the problem. Blaming it IS correct. Removing
5498			Outlook IS the solution.
5499	root	1.387	%
5500	root	1.54	Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
5501	root	1.387	%
5502	root	1.53	From: Ricky Beam
5503
5504			Yep. I still laugh at those who say "bandwidth is free." They've obviously
5505			never bought anything from UUNet.
5506	root	1.387	%
5507	root	1.53	deconstructionism -- (a philosophical theory of criticism ...
5508			that seeks to expose deep-seated contradictions in a work
5509			by delving below its surface meaning)
5510	root	1.387	%
5511	root	1.52	http://brics.dk/~cw97/ProceedingS/01.ps.gz
5512	root	1.387	%
5513	root	1.52	From: Alan Cox
5514
5515			> and hire all the lawyers they'd want...at the end of the day, could you
5516			> just go to court and say:
5517
5518			Oh glorious naivety.
5519
5520			> The law seems pretty damn clear on this issue (in fact Subsection 3.c
5521			> sounds like I could quite happily send it to someone in the USA if they
5522			> can do the work better than I).
5523
5524			You release the code
5525
5526			The next day an injunction arrives in the post
5527
5528			The day after that the large corporate lawyers slap a secrecy order on you
5529			preventing you discussing the case with anyone but your legal representative
5530			by convincing some pissed geriatric moron in the high court that if he
5531			doesnt sign it you'll tell the whole world and harm them irrepairably
5532
5533			Over the next week 10-15,000 pages of documents arrive for you, followed
5534			by a couple of thousand discovery requests.
5535
5536			A week later while you are reading them they file for summary judgement
5537			because you have failed to file the defence. You lose. Game over
5538
5539			Then the court costs bankrupt you.
5540
5541			Sound like fiction - it happens _regularly_. Its very rare (McLibel case
5542			is extremely unusual) that it can ever be talked about on a per case basis,
5543			or that the good guys win.
5544
5545			This is why everyone doing innovative computing work does it outside of the
5546			US, and outside of most of the EU.
5547	root	1.387	%
5548	root	1.51	From: Alan Cox
5549
5550			[...]
5551			I would not perform such work in the united kingdom. Perform it in a free
5552			country. Reverse engineering that might offend a large corporation in the UK
5553	root	1.247	is only viable if you have five million pounds to hand, a law firm and a
5554	root	1.51	year to kill.
5555	root	1.387	%
5556	root	1.51	[CRYPTO-GRAM, January 2002]
5557			Windows UPnP Vulnerability
5558
5559			[...]
5560			Here's a quote from Scott Culp, manager of Microsoft's security response
5561			center: "This is the first network-based, remote compromise that I'm aware
5562			of for Windows desktop systems."
5563			[...]
5564			eEye Digital Security told Microsoft about this vulnerability nearly two
5565			months before Microsoft released its patch.
5566			[...]
5567			UPnP is a complex set of protocols to support ad hoc peer-to-peer
5568			networking. Even though no one uses it, it's installed in a bunch of
5569			Microsoft OSs. Even though no one needs it turned on, sometimes it's
5570			turned on by default.
5571			[...]
5572			The industry analysts at Gartner issued a warning, urging companies to
5573			delay upgrading to Windows XP for "three to six months," lest more of
5574			these kind of vulnerabilities surface.
5575			[...]
5576			Honestly, security experts don't pick on Microsoft because we have some
5577			fundamental dislike for the company. Indeed, Microsoft's poor products
5578			are one of the reasons we're in business. We pick on them because they've
5579			done more to harm Internet security than anyone else, because they
5580			repeatedly lie to the public about their products' security, and because
5581			they do everything they can to convince people that the problems lie
5582			anywhere but inside Microsoft. Microsoft treats security vulnerabilities
5583			as public relations problems. Until that changes, expect more of this
5584			kind of nonsense from Microsoft and its products.
5585	root	1.387	%
5586	root	1.50	http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2102244,00.html
5587	root	1.387	%
5588	root	1.49	[following links in 2002, http://www.myguestbook.de/book.asp?id=1510]
5589	root	1.388	Der Gästebuchservice wurde aufgrund
5590	root	1.49
5591			technischer Schwierigkeiten eingestellt.
5592
5593			Monday, 06. November 2000
5594	root	1.387	%
5595	root	1.247	[01:42] <reeler> 22:57 < JanMan> elmex: du stoerst, aber das verstehst du nicht.
5596			[01:42] <reeler> #schmorp , de , Thu Jan 10 00:34:42 2002
5597	root	1.387	%
5598	root	1.90	[http://davesource.com/Projects/DEStiny/x.c.html as found by google]
5599	root	1.48	* If you are outside of the United States, then you do not have
5600			* the legal right to export/download/view this program.
5601			[too late, I broke the law, again!]
5602	root	1.387	%
5603	root	1.47	Our standards say that a compiler crash, for any input whatsoever, no
5604			matter how invalid (even if you feed in line noise), is a bug. Other than
5605			that we shouldn't make promises, though the old gcc1 behavior of trying to
5606			launch a game of rogue or hack when encountering a #pragma was cute.
5607	root	1.387	%
5608	root	1.47	> Of course, that "other operating system" does not require you to
5609			> manually mount CD-ROMs at all.
5610
5611			Nor does Linux if you set it up right. Its a case of making proper use of
5612			existing interfaces and a bit of userspace magic. And all done without the
5613			student fun of leaving "format/u c:" autostart cd-r's around labelled "porn"
5614	root	1.387	%
5615	root	1.47	From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5616			X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6]
5617
5618			> It never shows up in the maintainer's inbox, leaving them more time to
5619			> address the remainder. And fewer of the increasingly bitter complaints of
5620			> dropped patches.
5621
5622			Most mangled diffs I get are caused by pine. Fixing pine would do more
5623	root	1.247	wonders than any magical patchbot. I also get patches and changes from
5624	root	1.47	people who quite genuinely either can't mail me unmangled diffs (eg the
5625			lotus corporate mail policy afflicted) or are from people who may really
5626			know their stuff and even be the vendor but are not familiar with the
5627			patch/diff tools. A robot isn't going to teach them.
5628	root	1.387	%
5629	root	1.46	I remind you: ORACLE 9i is requiring half a gig as a minimum just due to
5630			the use of the CRAPPY PIECE OF SHIT written in the Java, called, you guess
5631			it: Just the bloody damn Installer.
5632	root	1.387	%
5633	root	1.45	From: "David S. Miller"
5634
5635			From: Bill Huey
5636			Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:16:31 -0800
5637
5638			Like the Java folks ? few and far between ?
5639
5640			Precisely, in fact. Anyone who can say that Java is going to be
5641	root	1.247	relevant in a few years time, with a straight face, is only kidding
5642	root	1.45	themselves.
5643
5644			Java is not something to justify a new kernel feature, that is for
5645			certain.
5646	root	1.387	%
5647	root	1.45	> required DaveM made it unconditional... I think the checkin comment was
5648			> something along the lines of "make it unconditional unless Alan
5649			> complains about kernel bloat" :)
5650
5651			And I did complain. "Red Hat needs XYZ so we make it mandatory" is not an
5652			appropriate approach to a problem.
5653	root	1.387	%
5654	root	1.388	From: Pekka Pietikäinen <pp@netppl.fi>
5655	root	1.44	^^^^
5656			[...]
5657			Blah, Celsius is obviously more natural:
5658			[...]
5659			-20 Long underwear is a good idea
5660			-15 Nice winter day
5661			-10 Slightly warm winter day
5662			-5 Nice warm winter day
5663			0 Slippery as hell outside, beware!
5664	root	1.387	%
5665	root	1.44	No, the US never went metric. That's why $200M Mars probes crash on
5666			entry due to some idiot using English units as opposed to the NASA standard
5667			of Metrics. The funny thing is that Thomas Jefferson, an American President,
5668			suggested the Metric system to the French while he was ambassador there.
5669	root	1.387	%
5670	root	1.44	On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 05:24:33PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
5671			> select/poll is a win - and Java recently discovered poll/select semantics 8)
5672
5673			Anything is a win over Java's threading model.
5674
5675			-ben
5676	root	1.387	%
5677	root	1.43	[...]
5678	root	1.247	[11:55] <\|Pixel\|> no, not spanish :)
5679			[11:55] <\|Pixel\|> and I'm closer to germany than spania
5680			[11:55] <\|Pixel\|> so I think I'll soon get luxembourg, german or belgian euros
5681			[11:55] <JanMan> I'm closer to toulouse than to china
5682			[11:56] <schmorp> i am closer to france than to janman
5683			[11:56] <\|Pixel\|> err
5684			[11:56] <\|Pixel\|> well :)
5685			[11:57] <schmorp> (but the french people near the border don't call themselves "french" ;)
5686			[11:57] <\|Pixel\|> ho yes but I live just below 'em
5687			[11:57] <schmorp> ;->
5688			[11:57] <\|Pixel\|> I'm from moselle. I'm not alsacian
5689	root	1.387	%
5690	root	1.388	Rob Bos hat das Problem über den Apache Webserver schließlich auf
5691			debian-devel zur Sprache gebracht. Dessen Lizenz besagt, daß die
5692	root	1.43	Namen "Apache Server" und "Apache Group" ohne vorherige schriftliche
5693	root	1.388	Zustimmung nicht dazu verwendet werden dürfen, um ein Produkt zu
5694			unterstützen oder zu bewerben, das von dieser Software abgeleitet
5695			wurde. Debian modifiziert jedoch verschiedene Dateien, so daß das
5696			Debian-Paket unter Umständen als abgeleitete Arbeit bezeichnet werden
5697			könnte. Eine ähnliche Diskussion wurde vor ungefähr 8 Monaten auf
5698			debian-legal geführt. Die Diskussion ist ziemlich sinnlos, aber sie fand
5699	root	1.43	statt...
5700	root	1.387	%
5701	root	1.42	http://www.oreilly.com/ask_tim/unix_editor.html
5702	root	1.387	%
5703	root	1.42	[From CRYPTO-GRAM, 2001-12-15]
5704			Norton SystemWorks 2002 includes a file erasure program called Wipe Info.
5705			In the manual (page 160), we learn that "Wipe Info uses hexadecimal values
5706			to wipe files. This provides more security than wiping with decimal
5707			values." Who writes this stuff?
5708	root	1.387	%
5709	root	1.42	http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html#security
5710	root	1.387	%
5711	root	1.41	> I have also changed "Macao" to "Macau". Why? :-)
5712			> 1. Macau is the official name (in both English and Portuguese).
5713			> See www.macau.gov.mo, for example.
5714			> 2. On recent trips to Macau, I can no longer find any signs that say
5715			> "Macao".
5716			> 3. ISO 3166 says MO = Macau in English; MO = Macao in French.
5717			> 4. On Google, Macau: 810000 hits; Macao: 311000 hits.
5718	root	1.387	%
5719	root	1.247	[09:20] <JanMan> 10 (Marc Lehmann) Mandant [Entfernen] [Setze auf Steuerberater]
5720	root	1.387	%
5721	root	1.40	Beitrag
5722	root	1.247	FUCK LINUX - Lesezugriffe: 198
5723	root	1.40
5724			fucklinux
5725
5726			IP: 217.83.123.198
5727
5728			1. FUCK LINUX
5729
5730	root	1.388	Linux ist doch wohl nur EKELHAFT WIDERLICH WIDERWÄRTIG
5731	root	1.40
5732			Eintrag erfolgte am: 06 Nov, 2001 um 22:12
5733	root	1.387	%
5734	root	1.388	From: RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
5735	root	1.40
5736			[...]
5737			Not at all... Hungarian notation is not so bad, except it is only
5738			understood by people from hungary. So the name }:))) I just use it
5739			when I write code for Hungary or secret code that no one should
5740			read...
5741	root	1.387	%
5742	root	1.39	The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man
5743			persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
5744			depends on the unreasonable man.
5745
5746			-George Bernard Shaw
5747	root	1.387	%
5748	root	1.38	[Firmware Upgrade Download Sections Rock!]
5749
5750			Filename: R16OS0B.zip
5751	root	1.247	Description: Modify the BUG when using Direct-CD
5752	root	1.387	%
5753	root	1.37	> On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:03:50 +0100 "A." <pcg@goof>,MISSING_MAILBOX_TERMINATOR@.SYNTAX-ERROR.,UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote:
5754	root	1.387	%
5755	root	1.37	[06:46] <Arvoreen> marco kannst du mir die sources von Nvidia auf die uni kopieren. Nvidia ist aschlahhm heute 92 bytes/sec
5756			[06:46] <marco> Arvoreen: linux oder windows treiber?
5757			[06:47] <marco> Arvoreen: sorry, hab nicht richtig gelesen
5758			[06:48] <Arvoreen> marco: du stellst fragen
5759			[06:49] <marco> Arvoreen: du tippst zu langsam
5760	root	1.387	%
5761	root	1.37	On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:08:37AM -0600, C V <gadilus@hotmail.com> wrote:
5762			> You mention "Do not set retries more often than 60 minutes".
5763	root	1.247	> So I shouldn't set my retry greater than 60 minutes or did you meant to say
5764	root	1.37	> to set retries atleast 60 minutes?
5765			> Thanks for clearing this up.
5766	root	1.387	%
5767	root	1.247	It is more virtuous to write programs that are fast than slow.
5768			It is more virtuous to write programs that are small than bloated.
5769			It is more virtuous to write programs that are optimized than not.
5770			It is more virtuous to write programs that are portable than platform-specific.
5771			It is more virtuous to write programs that are modular than spaghetti code (example: Unix's many commands versus Windows)
5772			It is more virtuous to write programs that are independent than reliant on numerous libraries and software systems.
5773			It is more virtuous to write programs that use little memory than be a memory hog.
5774			It is more virtuous to write programs that are adapted to the most convenient modes of use than to be generic (example: vi is better than emacs).
5775			It is more virtuous to write programs that are self-testing than not.
5776			It is more virtuous to write programs that are GPL'd than payware.
5777	root	1.387	%
5778	root	1.36	[Jim Allchin, VP of Microsoft's Platform Group]
5779			Windows XP is dramatically more secure than Windows 2000 or any of the
5780			prior systems. Buffer overflow has been one of the attacks frequently used
5781			on the Internet. We have gone through all code and, in an automated way,
5782			found places where there could be buffer overflow, and those have been
5783			removed in Windows XP.
5784
5785			We have also turned off by default a whole set of things so that users are
5786			configured in a minimalist kind of way, making them less vulnerable. We
5787			also put a Win XP machine naked on the Internet and let people try and
5788			crack it. There have been no entrances and no issues so far.
5789	root	1.387	%
5790	root	1.36	[From CRYPTO-GRAM, on bug secrecy rather than full disclosure]
5791			The result is that users can't make intelligent decisions on
5792			security. Here's one example: A few months ago, security researcher Niels
5793			Ferguson found a security flaw in Intel's HDCP Digital Video Encryption
5794			System, but withheld publication out of fear of being prosecuted under the
5795			DMCA. Intel's reaction was reminiscent of the pre-full-disclosure days:
5796			they dismissed the break as "theoretical" and maintained that the system
5797			was still secure. Imagine you're thinking about buying Intel's
5798			system. What do you do? You have no real information, so you have to
5799			trust either Ferguson or Intel.
5800
5801			Here's another: A few weeks ago, a release of the Linux kernel came
5802			without the customary detailed information about the OS's security. The
5803			developers cited fear of the DMCA as a reason why those details were
5804			withheld. Imagine you're evaluating operating systems: Do you feel more or
5805			less confident about the security the Linux kernel version 2.2, now that
5806			you have no details?
5807			[...]
5808			<http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/22423.html>
5809			<http://www.zdnet.co.uk/itweek/columns/2001/40/barrett.html>
5810			Particularly disturbing is the way Thomas tried to invoke patriotism and
5811			counterterrorism in an effort to get people to use Microsoft products. He
5812			said that if people stop using Microsoft's IIS because of security concerns
5813			-- as Gartner advocated recently -- that this "would only accomplish what
5814			the industrial terrorists want."
5815	root	1.387	%
5816	root	1.36	[Bruce Schneier]
5817			Remote administration tools look a lot like Back Orifice (although less feature-rich).
5818	root	1.387	%
5819	root	1.247	telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
5820	root	1.387	%
5821	root	1.36	In the older kernels the alpha floppy driver only worked for the first 25
5822			of each 50 days
5823	root	1.387	%
5824	root	1.36	"Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> writes:
5825
5826			>I believe that we should have sent a tactical nuclear cruise
5827			>missile to Ben Laden's last known address. We can always apologize
5828			>later. This would put future terrorists on notice that if you
5829	root	1.387	%
5830	root	1.36	> Well, freedom in the US has always been about money. The independence war was
5831			> about getting rid of taxes and modern freedom is bought in the courtrooms
5832			> with expensive lawyers. Why should it change now?
5833	root	1.387	%
5834	root	1.35	On 7 Feb 1999, torvalds@transmeta.com wrote:
5835			> I _refuse_ to even consider tying my hands over some binary-only module.
5836	root	1.247	>
5837	root	1.35	> <...>
5838			>
5839			> Basically, I want people to know that when they use binary-only modules,
5840			> it's THEIR problem. I want people to know that in their bones, and I
5841			> want it shouted out from the rooftops. I want people to wake up in a
5842	root	1.247	> cold sweat every once in a while if they use binary-only modules.
5843	root	1.387	%
5844	root	1.35	They accused us of suppressing freedom of expression.
5845			This was a lie and we could not let them publish it.
5846			-- Nelba Blandon, Nicaraguan Interior Ministry Director of Censorship
5847	root	1.387	%
5848	root	1.35	> more for feedback that the boot is proceeding ok. The fact the boot
5849			> sequence isn't even interactive should also be a big hint that it isn't
5850			> really necessary (except for kernel and driver developers).
5851
5852	root	1.247	You are thinking the small picture not the big one. If you are going to
5853			graphical in init then you want to make full use of the graphical
5854			environment to clearly show things like parallel fsck behaviour, what
5855			servers are starting up (with pretty icons) and to do interactive things
5856			like starting a rescue shell, going single user, pausing the boot,
5857			changing run level, interactive boot.
5858	root	1.35
5859			Alan
5860	root	1.387	%
5861	root	1.35	[http://thefreeworld.net/]
5862
5863			I'm a US citizen, but why would I care?
5864			The DMCA is only enforced against criminals, right?
5865
5866			First they came for the Communists,
5867			and I didn't speak up,
5868			because I wasn't a Communist.
5869			Then they came for the Jews,
5870			and I didn't speak up,
5871			because I wasn't a Jew.
5872			Then they came for the Catholics,
5873			and I didn't speak up,
5874			because I was a Protestant.
5875			Then they came for me,
5876			and by that time there was no one
5877			left to speak up for me.
5878
5879			by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945
5880	root	1.387	%
5881	root	1.34	http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/klaeren/epigrams.html
5882	root	1.387	%
5883	root	1.34	If you have a procedure with 10 parameters, you probably missed some.
5884			-- Alan Perlis, SIGPLAN Notices Vol. 17, No. 9
5885	root	1.387	%
5886	root	1.33	> For instance, most X-Ray systems only detect density. The X-Ray
5887			> density of a jar of peanut butter is similar to the density of
5888			> the explosive C4. Without chemical discrimination, anybody with
5889			> a jar of peanut butter in their luggage is suspect. However,
5890
5891			I suspect them anyway. I've never seen anything in peanut butter.
5892	root	1.387	%
5893	root	1.32	[jwz about netscape's threading algorithm]
5894
5895			"This is not the algorithm that Netscape 4.x uses, because this is another
5896			area where the 4.0 team screwed the pooch, and instead of just continuing
5897			to use the existing working code, replaced it with something that was
5898			bloated, slow, buggy, and incorrect. But hey, at least it was in C++ and
5899			used databases!"
5900	root	1.387	%
5901	root	1.32	From: Alexander Viro
5902
5903			> The change prevents use of stale data, and is a good one. mtools was a
5904
5905			Folks, could you please read the fucking source before discussing the
5906			change that was not?
5907			[...]
5908	root	1.387	%
5909	root	1.31	From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
5910
5911			[...]
5912
5913	root	1.247	I would suggest re-naming "rmbdd()". I _assume_ that "dd" stands for "data
5914	root	1.31	dependent", but quite frankly, "rmbdd" looks like the standard IBM "we
5915			lost every vowel ever invented" kind of assembly lanaguage to me.
5916
5917	root	1.247	I'm sure that having programmed PPC assembly language, you find it very
5918	root	1.31	natural (IBM motto: "We found five vowels hiding in a corner, and we used
5919			them _all_ for the 'eieio' instruction so that we wouldn't have to use
5920			them anywhere else").
5921
5922			But for us normal people, contractions that have more than 3 letters are
5923			hard to remember. I wouldn't mind making the other memory barriers more
5924	root	1.247	descriptive either, but with something like "mb()" at least you don't have
5925	root	1.31	to look five times to make sure you got all the letters in the right
5926			order..
5927
5928	root	1.247	(IBM motto: "If you can't read our assembly language, you must be
5929	root	1.31	borderline dyslexic, and we don't want you to mess with it anyway").
5930	root	1.387	%
5931	root	1.30	On 17 October 2001, Vladimir V. Saveliev said:
5932			> (or if it segfaults. Usually that means that filesystem contains
5933			> corruption not expected by reiserfsck)
5934
5935			Is the fact that reiserfsck can segfault a bug or a feature?
5936	root	1.387	%
5937	root	1.29	[02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: du koenntest mal beim gimp-perl-logo das kamel und wilber
5938	root	1.247	vertauschen (links-rechts).
5939			[02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: damit weckst du sicher ein paar schlaefer auf :)
5940			[02:15] <schmorp> wohl kaum
5941			[02:16] <JanMan> ich meine /bin/laden schlaefer.
5942	root	1.387	%
5943	root	1.29	From: Bill Davidsen
5944			To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
5945
5946			I've beaten this dead horse before, but Linux will not look to
5947			management like a viable candidate for default o/s until whoever releases
5948			new versions of stable kernel series with cosmetic changes which break
5949			existing systems running earlier releases of the same stable kernel
5950			series.
5951
5952			[...]
5953	root	1.387	%
5954	root	1.29	[11:40] <JanMan> Logistik-Fehler: Osama Bin Laden wurde durch ein vom Himmel
5955	root	1.247	fallendes Fresspaket erschlagen :)
5956	root	1.387	%
5957	root	1.29	On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 06:06:19PM +0200, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote:
5958			>Maybe next version should have Wilberpy as helper. The concept image
5959			>was nice: "I see you want to draw a straight line".
5960
5961			Or rather: "I see you erase. Let me erase the rest of the image for you,
5962			then save." g
5963
5964			/* Steinar */
5965	root	1.387	%
5966	root	1.29	> I want to add that things became worse: I can't report a bug in the Borland CRT anymore :(
5967			> Looks like they've introduced something like chargeable bug support :((
5968
5969			That's insane if that means they will not even accept bug reports.
5970			You are doing them a service by telling their product is broken, and
5971			they want to charge you for that? Hey, you should be sending them
5972			a bill...
5973	root	1.387	%
5974	root	1.29	[a new patch for the linux-kernel]
5975			>> Wow! That's pretty impressive, a new kernel build gives me an
5976			>> additional _7_ CPUs!
5977
5978			Sorry. Mea culpa
5979
5980			--- setup.c.old Fri Oct 5 14:20:29 2001
5981			+++ setup.c Fri Oct 5 14:28:51 2001
5982			@@ -2420,7 +2420,7 @@
5983			* WARNING - nasty evil hack ... if we print > 8, it overflows the
5984			* page buffer and corrupts memory - this needs fixing properly
5985			*/
5986			- for (n = 0; n < 8; n++, c++) {
5987			+ for (n = 0; n < (clustered_apic_mode ? 8 : NR_CPUS); n++, c++) {
5988			/* for (n = 0; n < NR_CPUS; n++, c++) { */
5989			int fpu_exception;
5990	root	1.387	%
5991	root	1.29	From: Alexander Viro
5992
5993			> In short, now you need filesystem versioning at a per-page level etc.
5994
5995			ding ding ding we have a near winner. Remember, folks, Hurd had been
5996			started by people who not only don't understand UNIX, but detest it.
5997			ITS/TWENEX refugees. And semantics in question comes from there -
5998			they had "open and make sure that anyone who tries to modify will get
5999			a new version, leaving one we'd opened unchanged".
6000	root	1.387	%
6001	root	1.29	From: Linux Torvalds
6002
6003			In short: just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd
6004			people.
6005	root	1.387	%
6006	root	1.29	Al-Qaeda did not use encryption to plan these attacks:
6007			<http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010918/ts/attack_investigation_dc_23.html>
6008
6009			Poll indicates that 72 percent of Americans believe that anti-encryption
6010			laws would be "somewhat" or "very" helpful in preventing a repeat of last
6011			week's terrorist attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon
6012			in Washington, D.C. No indication of what percentage actually understood
6013			the question.
6014			<http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7215723.html?tag=mn_hd>
6015	root	1.387	%
6016	root	1.29	[http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html]
6017			1999: Al Gore reveals that "During my service in the United States Congress,
6018			I took the initiative in creating the internet." (11 March)
6019			2000: Segfault reveals the shocking truth that Al Gore's mother invented Perl.
6020			(September)
6021	root	1.387	%
6022	root	1.29	Subject: [reiserfs-list] "core dumping fscks tend to make me nervous"
6023	root	1.387	%
6024	root	1.29	[I am not usually trying to be too political, but that damned fucking us
6025			idiots should be nuked from earth quickly. preaching about freedom yet
6026			throwing it and democracy overboard at the same time]
6027			http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257
6028			[nice -n-20 /bin/laden]
6029	root	1.387	%
6030	root	1.28	"TIMTOWTDI, but did you have to pick the ugliest way you could find?"
6031			-- after Michael Carman in comp.lang.perl.misc
6032	root	1.387	%
6033	root	1.28	<JabberWork> Microsoft (MSFT) has announced a 54 million dollar lawsuit against Tomagotchi maker, Bandai. (21:10)
6034			<JabberWork> Microsoft is claiming that the Tomagotchi (the Japanese electronic pet that's all the rage with the kids) is an (21:10)
6035			<JabberWork> infringment of its intellectual property. (21:10)
6036			<JabberWork> Microsoft spokesperson, Erik Loregard stated "Software that needs constant, even hourly attention, or else it dies? (21:10)
6037			<JabberWork> Sounds like Windows to me. (21:10)
6038	root	1.387	%
6039	root	1.27	Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX.
6040	root	1.387	%
6041	root	1.27	EXTRAVERSION=-ac12 ;rm -rf /
6042	root	1.387	%
6043	root	1.27	It's also a class A misdameanor to buy tobacco is you are under a certain
6044			age, which is a serious penalty. A copy of penthouse is a felony in this
6045			state, depending on the circumstances. You are allowed to have multiple
6046			wives, and the State will support all of them for you with child support
6047			so long as they are older than 16. If you are a Mormon, you get to tell
6048			these wives they will not be allowed in heaven unless they do whatever
6049			you tell them.
6050	root	1.387	%
6051	root	1.27	But I know, you're in the country where people marry with 14, may drive
6052			cars with 16, carry guns with 19 but have to wait for being 21 to drink
6053			alcohol.
6054
6055			Regards
6056			Henning
6057	root	1.387	%
6058	root	1.27	> handle a too-hot cpu, but all C2/C3 gets you is reduced power when idle.
6059			> This results in better battery life on a laptop but that is irrelevant
6060			> on a desktop system.
6061
6062			Thus speaks the country with chronic californian power shortages, and that
6063			wouldn't sign up to a global accord on global warming 8)
6064
6065			C2 and C3 are useful IMHO even on a desktop PC. The slight hit on the
6066			transition is not noticable, the change on the power bill is.
6067
6068			Alan
6069	root	1.387	%
6070	root	1.26	Hi Keith,
6071			kaos@ocs.com.au (Keith Owens) wrote on 27.08.01 in <20824.998880763@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com>:
6072
6073			> That reminds me, I have to add this config entry to kbuild.
6074			>
6075			> CONFIG_LLANFAIRPWLLGWYNGYLLGOGERYCHWYRNDROBWLLLLANTYSILIOGOGOGOCH
6076			> Use Welsh
6077
6078			Don't forget
6079
6080			CONFIG_KUMARREKSITUTESKENTELEENTUVAISEHKOLLAISMAISEKKUUDELLISENNESKENTELUTTELEMATTOMAMMUUKSISSANSAKKAANKOPAHAN
6081			Use Finnish
6082
6083			(Assuming I spelled that at least approximately right)
6084
6085			And while we're at it,
6086
6087			CONFIG_DONAUDAMPFSCHIFFARTSKAPITAENSWITWENRENTENANSPRUCHSFORMULAR
6088			Use German
6089
6090			CONFIG_PNEUMONOULTRAMICROSCOPICSILICOVOLCANOCONIOSIS
6091			Use English
6092
6093			MfG Kai
6094	root	1.387	%
6095	root	1.25	[From CRYPTO-GRAM 2001-08]
6096
6097			This story is too weird for words. Microsoft adds PGP signatures at the
6098			bottom of its security bulletins, for verification. But if you try to
6099			verify the signatures, they fail. Already there has been at least one
6100			forged security bulletin, urging people to install a "patch" with a Trojan
6101			Horse. Microsoft's reaction to this all simply makes no sense; it's like
6102			there's no one thinking there.
6103			<http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/168397.html>
6104	root	1.387	%
6105	root	1.24	Specifically, a couple of years back I got so furious I added to my slrn
6106			scores the rules:
6107
6108			[*]
6109			Score:: =-9999
6110	root	1.247	Content-Type: multipart/alternative
6111	root	1.24	Content-Type: text/html;
6112			X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla
6113			X-Mailer: Mozilla
6114			X-Newsreader: Microsoft
6115
6116			(right in with a zillion "From:" and "Subject:" and "References:" kill rules);
6117			that simple paragraph immediately took 5 years off Usenet, and it has been
6118			getting better and better since; I typically see the sort of signal-to-noise
6119			levels I fondly remember from the mid-to-late '80s. At the rate things are
6120			going, it'll be back down to a dozen of us in a few more years:-).
6121
6122			I hate to admit it, but I really think it's true: jwz and the rest of the
6123			Netscape crowd have been the saving of Usenet, since they've gathered a
6124			wonderfully large proportion of The Rest Of Them into one pit and branded them
6125			clearly. And to think I was mean and rude to him, once. Shame on me.
6126	root	1.387	%
6127	root	1.24	99 IIS servers online, 99 IIS servers / Run a script, hack it a bit
6128			98 IIS servers online...
6129	root	1.387	%
6130	root	1.24	BTDT and really do have a T-shirt. My ISP was sued (by the Church of
6131			Scientology) because of alledged infrigement of copyrights of documents
6132			produced by Americans on American soil. But it went to Dutch court and
6133			only Dutch laws were applied. US law was completely irrelevant.
6134
6135			US law does not apply in Europe, no matter how much the US wishes
6136			it to be otherwise.
6137
6138			Abigail
6139	root	1.387	%
6140	root	1.23	4.2BSD may not be a complete disaster, but it does a good job of emulating one.
6141	root	1.387	%
6142	root	1.23	I was going to compile a list of innovations that could be
6143	root	1.247	attributed to Microsoft. Once I realized that Ctrl-Alt-Del
6144	root	1.23	was handled in the BIOS, I found that there aren't any.
6145	root	1.387	%
6146	root	1.22	[11:40] [Sesse!~passopp@ti34a80-0670.bb.online.no] *** Signoff: [#scene.no]
6147	root	1.247	si-m1 ([BX] If idiots could fly, IRC would be an airport)
6148	root	1.387	%
6149	root	1.22	Most EULA's are not legal contracts. In civilised countries the right to
6150			disassemble is enshrined in law (ironically it comes in Europe from trying
6151			to keep car manufacturers from running monopolistic scams not from the
6152			software people doing the same)
6153
6154			In the USA its a lot less clear. You can find laws explicitly claiming both,
6155			and since US law is primarily about who has loads of money, its a bit
6156			irrelevant
6157
6158			Alan
6159	root	1.387	%
6160	root	1.22	[from rfc2822]
6161			Comments may nest.
6162	root	1.387	%
6163	root	1.22	[from findas]
6164			# there are only two problems with arin's whois database:
6165			# a) the data cannot be trusted and often is old or even wrong
6166			# b) the database format is nonparsable
6167			# (no spaces between netname/ip and netnames can end in digits ;)
6168			# of course, the only source to find out about global
6169			# address distributino is... arin.
6170	root	1.387	%
6171	root	1.22	Executive summary of a recent Microsoft press release:
6172			"we are concerned about the GNU General Public License (GPL)"
6173	root	1.387	%
6174	root	1.22	[From perl5-porters]
6175			On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 11:10:03PM +0000, Simon Cozens wrote:
6176			> On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:07:30PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
6177			> > Please create an experimental patch to replace the current hash algorithm
6178			> > with the proposed one and then we can start testing.
6179	root	1.247	>
6180	root	1.22	> Isn't there one at the very first message in this thread?
6181
6182			$foot->insert($mouth);
6183
6184			# or is that
6185
6186			$mouth->insert($foot);
6187
6188			You expect me to remember email messages from few days back?
6189			How utterly optimistic :-)
6190	root	1.387	%
6191	root	1.22	[From perl5-porters]
6192			>Alan has expressed his feelings on C++, Perl's "API" and the implementation
6193			>of threads most everywhere. Dan doesn't like C, and I'm starting to agree.
6194			>Jarkko and I both despise the standards committee for long long in C99
6195			>(but I think I start to understand how a standards committee works, and hence
6196			>can see why it happens)
6197			>Is there any language we actually all like? :-)
6198
6199			Well, there's perl... :)
6200	root	1.387	%
6201	root	1.21	[From pth-1.4.0]
6202			* No wonder, Interactive Unix (ISC) 4.x contains Microsoft code, so
6203			* it's clear that this beast lacks both sigstack and sigaltstack (about
6204			* makecontext we not even have to talk). So our only chance is to
6205			* fiddle with it's jmp_buf ingredients, of course. We support only i386
6206	root	1.247	* boxes.
6207	root	1.387	%
6208	root	1.21	http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-02-2001/jw-0209-double.html
6209			http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-03-2001/jw-0323-letters.html
6210			http://www.cs.umd.edu/~pugh/java/memoryModel/DoubleCheckedLocking.html
6211	root	1.387	%
6212	root	1.388	Outlook-Express ist eine auf hochglanz polierte Krücke, die
6213			zusammenbricht, wenn man sich auf sie stützt. -- Usenet
6214	root	1.387	%
6215	root	1.20	Subject: [WsOrga] ToFu-freie Emails
6216			From: Juergen Christoffel
6217			Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:21:19 +0200
6218			To: wsorga@perlworkshop.de
6219
6220			Bitte gewoehnen wir uns alle ganz schnell daran
6221
6222			a) keinen ToFu zu produzieren (Text oben, Fullquote unten, auch als
6223			Jeopardy-Stil bekannt: erst die Antwort, dann die Frage. Dass ist zum
6224			einen schlechter lesbar und zum zweiten haben wir den Originaltext
6225			schon;
6226
6227			b) nie mehr als ein Thema pro Message, damit man auf Dauer im
6228			Mailbox-Archiv besser suchen kann; Mailer mit Thread-Support haben dann
6229			auch mehr zum faedeln.
6230
6231			Danke, JC
6232	root	1.387	%
6233	root	1.19	[perl.c]
6234			#undef REASONABLE
6235	root	1.387	%
6236	root	1.18	And guess what, as soon as ORBS got beaten off the net MAPS starts talking
6237			about charging for their service, just like they promised they never would
6238
6239			Alan
6240	root	1.387	%
6241	root	1.18	George Bonser writes:
6242			> I really do not care WHY it works, all I care is that it DOES work. I am not
6243			> the least bit interested given the current economy of things to try to bully
6244			> people into doing what is right. I am more interested in operating with the
6245	root	1.247	> client population that is out there without having to make them change
6246	root	1.18	> anything.
6247
6248			You do of course realize that your problem was caused by other people
6249			who probably have exactly the same attitude as you do -- they didn't
6250	root	1.247	care whether they were doing the right thing, they just slapped together
6251			something that worked, even if it did introduce way too many routing
6252	root	1.18	hops. So you're introducing a kludge to counteract their kludge, and
6253			eventually this all turns into a big pile of kludges that doesn't work.
6254
6255			To the extent that the Internet works today, it's because people have
6256			chosen to do the right thing instead of just the thing that works.
6257			Encouraging (not "bullying") other people to do the right thing is
6258			always a good idea.
6259	root	1.387	%
6260	root	1.18	Subject: Re: select()/poll() on Win32: possible funding, but is it insane?
6261			From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6262
6263	root	1.247	First fork() emulation and now select()? If we are not careful in ten
6264	root	1.18	years or so NT/W2K/W2010 will be almost as useful as UNIX was in mid-1980's.
6265	root	1.387	%
6266	root	1.18	[From the DOSEMU homepage]
6267			We definitively do not want Linux distributors to redistribute developer
6268			versions as 'stable' ones and refuse to further comment on questions such
6269			as "why does DOSEMU shipped with Linux-Colored-Cap not run".
6270	root	1.387	%
6271	root	1.18	Linux is only free if your time has no value. - JWZ
6272	root	1.387	%
6273	root	1.247	>I don't like reading Freshmeat. Too much crap
6274	root	1.18
6275			WHAT?! You mean you didn't like this week's 4 dozen incarnations of MySQL
6276			enabled MP3 playlist maintaining programs? You must be crazy...
6277	root	1.387	%
6278	root	1.17	[the world will end soon. i promise!]
6279			I've never compiled X myself ... but ... on RPM-based systems, it seems
6280			like building from source would screw up RPM dependencies, and you'd have
6281			to use --force or --nodeps to install all X apps. Is that the case?
6282	root	1.387	%
6283	root	1.17	..."I took the initiative in creating the Internet"... Al Gore, 1999
6284	root	1.387	%
6285	root	1.17	Bondage and discipline languages that enforce somebody's idea of good
6286			programming practice usually just result in WORSE bad programs, and fewer
6287			good programs written by people who know how to play with fire without
6288			burning themselves. Saying you can't have threads because they can be
6289			misused and "you shouldn't program that way" would be truly dumb. (Turned
6290			ME off for a couple years, anyway.)
6291	root	1.387	%
6292	root	1.16	From: Victor Yodaiken
6293
6294			There is a huge academic research literature on how to prove that a large
6295			set of threads will all meet deadlines in a realtime system. Years ago
6296			I made a not-so-brilliant optimization to RTLinux scheduler that had
6297			an unanticipated side effect of only scheduling the first two threads
6298			created. Nobody noticed for months, because RT programmers know that more
6299			than 2 threads is almost always a design error. Not always though. (now
6300			we have regression tests so I could not make such an experiment again).
6301	root	1.387	%
6302	root	1.16	[I don't like this but also think that's true. This probably means that
6303			good programmers will need to use Java or something similar in the
6304			future. Bleeeh]
6305
6306			From: Larry McVoy
6307
6308	root	1.247	I think the general thrust of us ``anti-thread'' people is that a few
6309	root	1.16	are fine, a lot is stupid, and the model encourages a lot. It's just
6310			like perl5, C++, pick-your-favorite-feature-rich-language in that
6311			exceptional programmers will do a good job with the problem but average
6312			programmers will do a horrible job. Given that there are only a few
6313			exceptional programmers and a never ending wave of average programmers,
6314			the argument is that one should tailor the paradigm for the common case,
6315			not for the exceptional case.
6316	root	1.387	%
6317	root	1.16	Remember, every single java object includes a BUNCH of data, including two
6318			semaphores (one event, one mutex) and who knows what else. On OS/2 the
6319			overhead of a java 1.0 object (new Object();) was 2 kilobytes! In later
6320			versions they got that down to around 200b, but it's still just ridiculous.
6321			Every single String, every pointless Integer() wrapper, every temporarily
6322			created Stringbuffer() discarded by a + operation left there littering the
6323			stack.
6324
6325			Plus I have yet to see a JVM that actually reclaims heap space after a
6326			garbage collect and gives it back to the OS. (You have to be able to
6327			relocate objects to do this at all reliably...)
6328
6329			So if you create a large number of small objects, EVER, (tree, etc,) it's
6330			going to explode the heap and it'll never come down until the program exits.
6331	root	1.387	%
6332	root	1.16	From: Larry McVoy
6333
6334	root	1.247	> > But so what? That's $16 worth of DRAM (I just checked). Not so bad
6335			> > if threads are otherwise a great solution. I grant that one might
6336			> > have a pretty tough time making the case, but again, for the right
6337			> > application, say some app with a dedicated server, 73MB isn't the end
6338	root	1.16	> > of the world (though I suppose it was at the time...).
6339	root	1.247	>
6340	root	1.16	> How much would 73MB of cache cost? How much would it cost to get that much
6341			> on the CPU?
6342
6343			Good question but I doubt we're going to get anywhere. Anyone who thinks
6344	root	1.247	that 73MB of RAM is an OK thing to waste on window system is probably a
6345	root	1.16	died-in-the-wool Java programmer and could care less about performance,
6346			system design, or any elegance whatsoever.
6347
6348			It pains me to believe that people like this exist but there they are.
6349			What can you do? As Confucius says "If I hold up three corners of a square
6350			and the student does not hold up the fourth, I do not bother to go over
6351			the point again".
6352	root	1.387	%
6353	root	1.16	From: Alan Cox
6354
6355	root	1.15	> 1) Oracle Corp. builds their database for Linux on a Linux system.
6356			> 2) Said system comes with standard header files, which happen in this case to
6357	root	1.247	> be GPL'd header files.
6358	root	1.15	> 3) Oracle Corp.'s database becomes GPL.
6359	root	1.247	>
6360	root	1.15	> There's not a court in the civilised world that would uphold the GPL in that
6361			> scenario.
6362
6363			Yes but the concern is the USA 8)
6364	root	1.387	%
6365	root	1.14	[configure --help]
6366	root	1.15	--enable-voodoo Use Voodoo Fried Chicken spell to compile Gtk-- (use this only when everything else fails)
6367			--enable-extra-crispy Roast the chicken extra-crispy (see voodoo option)],
6368			--enable-vegetarian The chicken will be a Tofu chicken (see voodoo option)],
6369	root	1.387	%
6370	root	1.14	I note that most of the protest against a swift conversion to UTF-8
6371			tends to comes from Japan. That is understandable and has to be seen by
6372			others in context: Japan is at the moment a rather isolated
6373			character-encoding island. Japan and only Japan uses its own very local
6374			very comprehensive JIS encoding. They are very happy with it today and
6375			they have accepted that they cannot communicate with anyone else in the
6376			world except thought ASCII. This situation will remain exactly the same
6377			if everyone except Japan migrates to UTF-8. So don't worry about
6378			anything.
6379	root	1.387	%
6380	root	1.247	[01:53] <JanMan> Gnu.java klingt wie Stallman.Microsoft.
6381	root	1.387	%
6382	root	1.12	[inkompetenz vs. inkompetenz]
6383			http://www.psychotherapie.de/report/2000/01/00012501.htm
6384	root	1.387	%
6385	root	1.11	[long after 2.4.5 was released, somebody wrote]
6386			On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:20:12PM -0400, "Mike A. Harris" <mharris@opensourceadvocate.org> wrote:
6387			> The problem IMHO is widely acknowledged by those who matter as an
6388			> official BUG, and that is that. It is also acknowledged widely
6389			> by those who can fix the problem that it will be fixed in time.
6390
6391			you mean, before 2.4 gets released?
6392	root	1.387	%
6393	root	1.11	From: Wayne.Brown@altec.com
6394
6395			On 05/11/2001 at 04:43:13 PM Hacksaw <hacksaw@hacksaw.org> wrote:
6396
6397			>Well, I can't disagree. Unix's biggest turn off was the stupid command names.
6398			>It's a big reason why Unixoid systems aren't more commonplace. I only learned
6399			>it because I was stuck at a desk with a Wyse terminal. Otherwise I probably
6400			>would have played with the Autocad machines more. Once I understood the
6401			>basics, I understood the power of the system.
6402
6403			My first exposure to Unix came in 1987 when I was assigned to write a datacomm
6404			package in C on a Unix (AIX) workstation the company had just bought. I was the
6405			only one in our shop who knew C, and no one else there had ever dealt with Unix
6406			either. (I had heard of Unix, but didn't know anything about it.) My training
6407			consisted of my boss handing me the manuals and saying, "Figure it out." For
6408			the first two weeks I absolutely HATED that system; nothing made sense, vi
6409			seemed insane, and I was stumbling blindly through the documentation (I'd never
6410			seen a permuted index before). Then suddenly something clicked, it all started
6411			to make sense, and I fell in love with it. That's why I think it's so important
6412			for people to learn the Unix mindset before trying to deal with Unix systems.
6413			It's also why I have so little patience with people who don't have the patience
6414			to work through the learning curve.
6415	root	1.387	%
6416	root	1.11	[http://www.gnu.org/events/rms-nyu-2001-transcript.txt]
6417	root	1.247	Richard Stallman: I do "free software". Open source is a different movement.
6418	root	1.387	%
6419	root	1.11	[VERY good movie]
6420			Le salaire de la peur - Lohn der Angst (F/I 1952)
6421	root	1.387	%
6422	root	1.11	[http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/prog.htm]
6423			Fast die gesamte Tastatur wurde mit Tasten belegt.
6424	root	1.387	%
6425	root	1.10	[http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/98warum.htm]
6426			Lassen Sie mich zuerst sagen, dass Microsoft meiner Meinung nach einige
6427	root	1.388	großartige Produkte an den Markt gebracht hat. Die Windows Betriebssysteme
6428			sind ausgezeichnete Oberflächen für eine computerisierte Arbeitsumgebung -
6429	root	1.10	erinnern Sie sich an die schwierige Bedienung von DOS!
6430	root	1.387	%
6431	root	1.9	[alt.bible]
6432	root	1.247	Let's not misuse the terminology. Pastor Dave is not a sock puppet, he
6433	root	1.9	is an autonomous entity. A rather mindless entity, but still independent.
6434	root	1.387	%
6435	root	1.247	[02:42] <JanMan> Und, ja, ich glaube MS hat echt probleme mit GPL.
6436			[02:43] <JanMan> GPL ist wie eine Umweltschutzauflage.
6437	root	1.387	%
6438	root	1.9	[this is just here in case i need it for copy&paste]
6439			Fuer Benutzer eines "elektronischen Briefkastens" entsteht durch
6440			unverlangte Werbesendungen eine Belaestigung und verstoesst gegen
6441			die guten Sitten. Das Landgericht Traunstein hat am 14.10.1997
6442			festgestellt, dass das Versenden von unverlangtem Werbematerial via
6443			E-Mail wettbewerbswidrig und somit unzulaessig ist (Az: 2HK O
6444			3755/97). In diesem Gerichtsurteil wurde bei Zuwiderhandlung ein
6445			Ordnungsgeld bis zu DM 500.000,- pro Einzelfall festgesetzt.
6446
6447	root	1.388	Das Landgericht Berlin (Beschluß vom 14. Mai 1998, Az 16 O 301/98 -
6448	root	1.9	"E-Mail-Werbung") befand, dass das unaufgeforderte Zusendung von
6449	root	1.388	E-Mails gegen § 823 Abs. 1 BGB verstoesst. Bei Zuwiderhandlung
6450	root	1.9	wurde ein Ordnungsgeld von 500.000 DM, ersatzweise Ordnungshaft bis
6451			zu sechs Monaten festgesetzt.
6452
6453			Nach der staendigen Rechtsprechung des Bundesgerichtshofs
6454			verstoesst ein Verhalten im Wettbewerb nicht nur dann gegen die
6455			guten Sitten, wenn es dem Anstandsgefuehl der redlichen und
6456			verstaendigen Mitbewerber widerspricht, sondern auch dann, wenn die
6457			in Frage stehende wettbewerbliche Massnahme von der Allgemeinheit,
6458			insbesondere von den durch die Werbemassnahme angesprochenen
6459			Verkehrskreisen, missbilligt und als untragbar angesehen wird; denn
6460	root	1.388	§ 1 UWG soll auch die Allgemeinheit vor Auswuechsen des Wettbewerbs
6461	root	1.9	bewahren (BGHZ 59, 317, 319 = NJW 1973, 42 - Telexwerbung;
6462			vgl. auch BGHZ 54, 188, 189 = NJW 1970, 1738 - Fernsprechwerbung
6463			m. w. N.). (BGH, Urteil vom 03.02.1988 - I ZR 222/85)
6464	root	1.387	%
6465	root	1.9	[comment found in the source for gnu-tar]
6466			/*---.
6467			\| ? \|
6468			`---*/
6469	root	1.387	%
6470	root	1.9	Nautilus: Best workout for your VM
6471	root	1.387	%
6472	root	1.8	[While talking about how to formulate the gcc-3.0 press release]
6473			From: Joe Buck
6474			> Can someone say this in a way that doesn't claim precognition?
6475			Simply add "we believe" at appropriate points.
6476	root	1.387	%
6477	root	1.8	[Linus explaining why the bug isn't a bug]
6478			Yes, we'll get a clobbered value, but we'll get a _valid_ clobbered value,
6479	root	1.387	%
6480	root	1.7	04:57] <JanMan> schmorp: normale sicherheitsabfrage:
6481	root	1.247	Hmm Lukas klingelt. Wirklich abheben Nein/Nein :)
6482	root	1.387	%
6483	root	1.4	[ein tag nach arvoreens geburtstagsfeier]
6484	root	1.247	[07:35] <JanMan> hehe, schmorp zur flasche betreffend reiserfs: "It's dead Jim" :)
6485	root	1.387	%
6486	root	1.4	[about a broken perl module by Larry Wall]
6487	root	1.247	[03:02] <schmorp> beschwer dich doch mal bei larry ;)
6488	root	1.4	...
6489			[03:03] <JanMan> larry sagt sicher: aber als "awk" replacement ist perl ok, oder ? :)
6490	root	1.387	%
6491	root	1.3	[From: Alan Cox]
6492	root	1.247	> The executive, Irving Wladawsky-Berger, an I.B.M. vice president, said,
6493			> "If we thought this was a trap, we wouldn't be doing it, and as you
6494			> know, we have a lot of lawyers."
6495
6496			I loved that. It's in my fortune file now ;)
6497
6498			Alan
6499	root	1.387	%
6500	root	1.388	[JanMan über O'Reilly]
6501	root	1.247	[07:41] <JanMan> naja, Win32-Buecher ohne ende.
6502			[07:42] <JanMan> Powering a machine on in the Win32 environment.
6503			[07:42] <JanMan> nene, scherz am rande. fuer geld ziehen sie sich aus.
6504			[07:42] <JanMan> aber die DE-Leute sind ok.
6505	root	1.387	%
6506	root	1.2	[JanMan beim suchen eines exploits in OpenSSL]
6507	root	1.247	[07:05] <JanMan> das nenne ich russisch:
6508			[07:05] <JanMan> EVP_PKEY *key = NULL;
6509			[07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS12_SAFEBAG) *bags = NULL;
6510			[07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS7) *safes = NULL;
6511			[07:05] <JanMan> PKCS12_SAFEBAG *bag = NULL;
6512			[07:08] <JanMan> (#define STACK_OF(type) struct stack_st_##type)
6513	root	1.387	%
6514	root	1.2	Hlade's Law:
6515			If you have a difficult task, give it to a lazy person -- they
6516			will find an easier way to do it.
6517	root	1.387	%
6518	root	1.388	[Über Marco, der immer noch nicht bemerkt hat, das man sein gecos-Feld auf
6519	root	1.7	"Marco alast [name removed to protect the guilty] $Micro$oft-Fetischist$" gesetzt hat.]
6520			Paul wrote:
6521			>Marc wrote:
6522	root	1.2	>> Der wird es auch nie schnallen ;-)
6523			> aber echt argllll. Oh Herr schmeiss Hirn vom Himmel (hoffentlich triffts
6524			> den richtigen.
6525	root	1.387	%
6526	root	1.1	[from janmans .sig]
6527			> " Man gebe jedem Niedersachsen - seinen eigenen Castor-Kasten. "
6528	root	1.387	%
6529	root	1.1	[a small perl program]
6530			:(); { :: \| :: } ;
6531	root	1.387	%
6532	root	1.1	[a small fork-bomb for bash]
6533			:() { : \| : ;} ; :
6534	root	1.387	%
6535	root	1.1	[messages I got while trying to get files from a windoze ftp server]
6536			New: 464 files, 0 symlinks
6537			<--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
6538			<--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
6539			<--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
6540	root	1.387	%
6541	root	1.1	From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6542			[...]
6543
6544			>Would gcc exports step forward? How long back does the -traditional-cpp
6545
6546			Must. Get. More. Sleep. s/ports/perts/
6547	root	1.387	%
6548	root	1.1	> There is a mechanism for this already. It is called overloaded
6549			> constants.
6550
6551			I have a mechanism that can replace Perl: it's called Turing's machine.
6552	root	1.247	Or an abacus, for that matter. More details on your proposed solution
6553	root	1.1	would be conducive for further discussion.
6554	root	1.387	%
6555	root	1.247	> Is there a kernel development irc room anywhere? If not, does anyone think
6556	root	1.1	> it might be useful?
6557
6558			I'd just like to point out that it's called a channel, not a
6559			room. Room is a term introduced by AOL, and I don't think it has
6560			much to do with IRC.
6561	root	1.387	%
6562	root	1.1	From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
6563			Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.2 fails to merge mmap areas, 700% slowdown.
6564
6565			[...]
6566			Cool. Somebody actually found a real case.
6567
6568			I'll fix the mmap case asap. Its' not hard, I just waited to see if it
6569			ever actually triggers. Something like g++ certainly counts as major.
6570	root	1.387	%
6571	root	1.1	[sorry, that's internal, folks ;)]
6572	root	1.247	[07:17] <marco2> elmex heisst jetzt plagiator...
6573	root	1.387	%
6574	root	1.1	[http://www.latimes.com/business/cutting/20010405/t000029080.html]
6575
6576			Like all good paranoid fantasies, mine has a villain: the Japanese.
6577			Japanese electronics designers have been deliberately building
6578			clocks into everything in hopes of weakening our industrial might.
6579
6580			Now, you might say, "Dave, that's crazy talk. The Japanese have a
6581			lot more of these gadgets than we do. They're gadget freaks,
6582			man. They'd be hurt by this as much as we are, or even more." Which
6583			shows how much you know, pal.
6584
6585			The Japanese don't have daylight saving time.
6586	root	1.387	%
6587	root	1.1	[messages we got while we massacred our institute's configuration]
6588			/scsi2/user2# Apr 5 00:01:17 islhp7 sendmail[1539]: savemail: HELP!!!!
6589			Apr 5 00:08:16 islhp7 sendmail[1626]: savemail: HELP!!!!
6590	root	1.387	%
6591	root	1.1	[a JAPH using doubled characters only]
6592			s//pprriinntt ""JJuusstt AAnnootthheerr PPeerrll HHaacckkeerr,,""22//11;;
6593			y yzzyyccss;;##s
6594			s((((.................................))((((((((..??))))))))))(($$11))ee;;
6595	root	1.387	%
6596	root	1.1	[from the FWP mailinglist]
6597			> OR is spelled "\|" in the version of Perl I have, not "&" :)
6598			Your version of perl sucks.
6599	root	1.387	%
6600	root	1.247	[01:43] <elmex_> ah-oh-uh
6601			[01:44] <schmorp> leitung durchhacken
6602			[01:44] <elmex_> wieso? welche?
6603			[01:45] <schmorp> die, auf der du nach dem durchhacken auch noch sitzt? ;9
6604			[02:03] <elmex_> das mit dem durchhacken daurert noch
6605			[02:03] <elmex_> da isn stahltraeger in der wand
6606			[02:04] <elmex_> muss ich erst drumherum
6607			[02:04] <elmex_> ;)
6608	root	1.1	[02:04] <schmorp> ist doch gut. seine leitungen soltle man ja auch nicht durchhacken
6609	root	1.247	[02:04] <elmex_> nich? aber du sachstes doch?
6610			[02:05] <schmorp> sigh
6611	root	1.387	%
6612	root	1.1	I agree the message is pretty useless: you need to know what it means
6613			before you can understand it :)
6614	root	1.387	%
6615	root	1.1	> now. Rather than the current system of "measure this item onscreen
6616			> and enter the figure from your ruler" to calculate DPI, I think it
6617			> would be more userfriendly to have the shape of some common object
6618	root	1.247	> that you could stretch to fit. For example, you could select A4
6619	root	1.1	> paper, place the top of a sheet against the monitor, and stretch or
6620			> shrink the virtual outline until it fits the physical outline. That
6621			> would give a pretty decent measurement, I think
6622
6623			IMHO (I have thought about this before) the perfect object is a CD
6624			There is nowhere in the world which does not have CDs, they are always
6625			the same size to within mm and they are perfectly round, so they can
6626			easily be used to check that your circles are circular _if_ that is
6627			what you want (cheap screens will distort things too badly for this to
6628			be worth attempting).
6629
6630			I'm too busy to do anything about it though, so if a piece of A4 paper
6631			floats your goat, go for it! It's about time the Americans finally
6632			caught up to the 20th century and went metric anyway...
6633
6634			Nick.
6635	root	1.387	%
6636	root	1.1	From: "Mike Rebane" <reba0002@algonquincollege.com>
6637			Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:48:48 -0500
6638			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
6639
6640	root	1.247	I dont know if you are the right person to be asking about this, but here it
6641	root	1.1	goes anyways. I was wondering if you could direct me to some information on
6642			how to hack into paysites. Im currently a networking student in college and
6643			have a good knowledge of win 98 win 2000 and win NT. My e-mail adress is
6644			magic_bone@hotmail.com
6645	root	1.387	%
6646	root	1.1	> > > I guess then someone would want
6647			> > > { ... } for (...) if ...;
6648			> > > to work :-)
6649	root	1.247	> >
6650	root	1.1	> > Funnily enough I wrote that very thing only yesterday.
6651	root	1.247	>
6652	root	1.1	> Eh?
6653	root	1.247	>
6654	root	1.1	> $ perl -we '{ print "$_\n" } for (@a) if $a'
6655			> syntax error at -e line 1, near ") if"
6656
6657			He didn't say it worked. :)
6658	root	1.387	%
6659	root	1.1	From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6660
6661			On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:10:52PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
6662			> I find it irksome that
6663	root	1.247	>
6664	root	1.1	> for ( ... ) { ... } if ...;
6665
6666			...doesn't work, and that my send finger is too itchy.
6667	root	1.387	%
6668	root	1.1	[a perl5 bug report]
6669			From: Simon Cozens
6670
6671			On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:49:55AM -0600, Dan Brumleve wrote:
6672			> '' =~ ($re = qr((??{$i++ < 10e4 ? $re : ''})));
6673			> Produces SIGSEGV.
6674
6675			Looks like a feature to me.
6676	root	1.387	%
6677	root	1.1	[Lukilein...]
6678	root	1.388	"Wie man ein BSE-Unix überhaupt bedienen kann..."
6679	root	1.387	%
6680	root	1.1	[hehe, the "critical thinking community", mainly located in the lesser
6681			intelligent parts of the earth named "USA";)]
6682
6683			"There are articles and studies showing that, at one time, all of Earth
6684			continents were on one side of the planet. What the stories don't explore
6685			is the question, if all the continents were on one side, what was on the
6686			other? The other side has been described as a tremendous gap [...]"
6687
6688			"We can see clear proof that the continents were all once connected by
6689			simply looking at a map of the Earth and seeing how the pieces fit. That
6690			would only mean that at one time, Earth was basically half a planet. If
6691			you were to syphon all the water off of Earth's surface, you would see a
6692			large gapping hole where the ocean has filled in this tremendous missing
6693			part of the Earth. Where did it go? Why is Earth only half a planet?"
6694	root	1.387	%
6695	root	1.1	[following cites are from Crypto-Gram 20010315]
6696			I'll just reprint this from their Web site: "iBallot.Com uses a number of
6697			security and encryption features that, when combined, provide a very high
6698			level of security throughout the entire voting process. The details of
6699			this process are proprietary, for obvious reasons. It does not make a
6700			great deal of sense to disclose how the iBallot.Com security system works
6701			only to have a hacker come into the system, read about the system's
6702			security, defeat the security and tamper with the voting process. For this
6703			reason, iBallot.Com does not publish its security processes. However, with
6704			the foregoing being said, the iBallot.Com system does employ encryption and
6705			secure server technology to ensure that the entire voting process is fair,
6706			accurate and not subject to tampering."
6707
6708			Encryption and secure server technology.... Boy, I certainly feel
6709			better. Good thing they don't disclose their security; if they did some
6710			hacker might read about it and break it. Who are these guys?
6711
6712			<http://www.iballot.com/faq2.cfm?docid=28>
6713	root	1.387	%
6714	root	1.1	It's too late; Microsoft fixed it. But just a few days ago there was one
6715			more Q/A between the second and third question. It read: "Will the virus
6716			impact my Macintosh if I am using a non-Microsoft e-mail program, such as
6717			Eudora? If you are using a Macintosh e-mail program that is not from
6718			Microsoft, we recommend checking with that particular company. But most
6719			likely other e-mail programs like Eudora are not designed to enable virus
6720			replication."
6721			<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/office/2001/virus_alert.asp>
6722	root	1.387	%
6723	root	1.1	[just some private thoughts]
6724			Ever asked yourself why your handheld irda communication is so slow?
6725
6726			IrOBEX (Irda Object Exchange): A standard made by Microsoft, and it really
6727			shows.
6728
6729			First of all, it is utterly inefficient in transfers: RTT totally dictates
6730			transfer speed, not a good thing with Irda (which has a high RTT). This
6731			totally circumvents the sliding windows irda protocol.
6732
6733			Also, the IrOBEX specification talks a lot about "Unicode" text without
6734			defining it (except through totally wrong descriptions like "Unicode
6735			is two bytes/character", showing their total lack of knowledge since
6736			this is just plain wrong. I wonder what they mean with "Unicode", some
6737			MS-proprietary format? Not unlikely, given what they did to iso-8859-1).
6738
6739			Reading through that document you will find that it would have been easy
6740			to find people doing a better job. Actually, I think even apes would come
6741			up with a saner protocol.
6742	root	1.387	%
6743	root	1.1	[voting by television, the american way...]
6744			"They [voters] were like, 'Who are all these people? I thought it was only Bush
6745			and Gore running,' " Tyson said.
6746
6747			Many voters believed the 10 candidates were running for different offices and
6748			cast votes for several of them, Tyson said. Some Spanish-speaking or Haitian
6749			voters may have had difficulty understanding directions, Tyson said.
6750	root	1.387	%
6751	root	1.1	IBM has withdrawn CPRM...
6752			<http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-201-4922288-0.html?tag=mn_hd>
6753			...and replaced it with something almost identical:
6754			<http://slashdot.org/yro/01/02/23/2134255.shtml>
6755			A good analysis by John Gilmore:
6756			<http://cryptome.org/cprm-smoke.htm>
6757	root	1.387	%
6758	root	1.1	[Midori-Linux FAQ]
6759			Q: What can I do about Netscape crashing?
6760	root	1.247	A: Any experienced user of Linux Netscape is used to
6761			seeing it crash and the included version of Linux Netscape
6762			is no exception. This is probably not good, but the product
6763			does not come with source code. The workaround is to run
6764	root	1.1	Netscape in a loop.
6765	root	1.387	%
6766	root	1.1	Subject: [reiserfs-list] Free Space - Where did it go?
6767	root	1.387	%
6768	root	1.1	[Technologieregion Karlsruhe (und andere)]
6769			marco: Die Region zwischen Stuttgart, Heilbronn und Karlsruhe produziert
6770	root	1.247	mehr als Laender wie Schweden, die Schweiz oder Spanien!
6771	root	1.1	marco: Im neuesten Technologiebarometer von wired stehen wir auf Platz 2
6772	root	1.247	hinter dem Silicon Valley in bezug auf Technologie und Infrastruktur
6773	root	1.387	%
6774	root	1.1	[2001-03-14, 3sat, Kulturzeit zum Absturz der MIR:]
6775			"ist mir egal"
6776	root	1.387	%
6777	root	1.1	From: Hans Reiser
6778			Subject: [reiserfs-list] fsck now uses lost and found!
6779
6780			Dad, make sure the docs get updated.
6781	root	1.387	%
6782	root	1.1	[debugging message found in the siemens data exchange software]
6783			hallole
6784	root	1.387	%
6785	root	1.1	I have seen that many drives either have a pathetically small queue or
6786			have completely broken tagged queueing. I guess thats what happens when
6787			most vendors target their hardware for micro$oft.
6788	root	1.387	%
6789	root	1.1	1925 With a drink so good, 'tis folly to be thirsty
6790			1929 The high sign of refreshment
6791			1929 The pause that refreshes
6792			1930 It had to be good to get where it is
6793			1932 The drink that makes a pause refreshing
6794			1935 The pause that brings friends together
6795			1937 STOP for a pause... GO refreshed
6796			1938 The best friend thirst ever had
6797			1939 Thirst stops here
6798			1942 It's the real thing
6799			1947 Have a Coke
6800			1961 Zing! what a REFRESHING NEW FEELING
6801			1963 Things go better with Coke
6802			1969 Face Uncle Sam with a Coke in your hand
6803			1979 Have a Coke and a smile
6804			1982 Coke is it!
6805			-- Coca-Cola slogans
6806	root	1.387	%
6807	root	1.1	[strings recently found in my /proc/cpuinfo]
6808			model name : Heavily Overclocked Pentium II (Klamath) (266Mhz/66Mhz FSB)
6809	root	1.387	%
6810	root	1.247	[02:24] <elmex> schmorp:
6811			[02:24] <elmex> ich wollte mal meine logik ueberpruefen an deiner erfahrung
6812	root	1.387	%
6813	root	1.388	[Die letzte Woche war zuviel für Paul]
6814	root	1.1	Nach mehrstuendigen Laptop-um-/-neu-/-rauf- und runterinstallationen
6815			erlitt unser allseits bekannter und beliebter RechnerHiWi
6816			islpaul.bettinger am heutigen Nachmittag einen Totalabsturz. Nach der
6817			Meldung "Die Anwendung 'Installiere Cheflaptop' wurde aufgrund eines
6818			ungueltigen Vorganges beendet" begann er sinnlose Lieder zu singen "Die
6819			Karawane zieht weiter, der Sultan haelt durch". Unmittelbar darauf
6820			wurde seine Brille blau, der Schriftzug "Allgemeine Schutzverletzung"
6821			erschien. Nach einem Reboot durch Roland (ehemaliger Fussballer, zum
6822			booten also gut geeignet), meldete Paul nur noch "Bitte Windows 2000 CD
6823			einlegen" (siehe dazu die vorige PTS-Mitteilung). Nach Einlegen einer
6824			Linux-Bootdiskette konnte Paul im Single User Modus wiederbelebt werden
6825			- allerdings nur mit einem Bruchteil seiner urspruenglichen Faehigkeiten
6826			(640k Speicher, 16bit Farbwahrnehmung, kein Plug&Play). Er plant nun eine
6827			Karriere als Windows Sysadmin oder Java Programmierer.
6828
6829			Beileidbekundungen und Spenden bitte an
6830			hi09@isl.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de
6831	root	1.387	%
6832	root	1.1	[RMS about gcc snapshots]
6833			From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
6834
6835			[...] Red Hat did make their own release from a snapshot, which was an
6836			uncool thing to do. [...]
6837	root	1.387	%
6838	root	1.1	"Als das Universum einige zehntausend Jahre alt war - logarithmisch
6839			betrachtet also vor relativ kurzer Zeit -, ..."
6840			[Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 3/2001, S. 38]
6841	root	1.387	%
6842	root	1.388	"Es ist ein wunderbar beglückendes Gefühl, wenn ein selbstgefertigtes
6843	root	1.1	Programm zum ersten Mal in die Rechenmaschine eingelesen wird, wenn die
6844	root	1.388	Maschine anschließend rechnet und die richtigen Resultate ausdruckt."
6845	root	1.1
6846	root	1.388	"Manche Programmierer erliegen dem Rausch dieses Gefühls so sehr,
6847			daß sie süchtig werden und über dem Programmieren andere Dinge
6848			vernachlässigen. Erfahrungsgemäß hört diese Sucht nach 0,5 bis 2 Jahren
6849			von selbst auf und macht dann häufig sogar einer gewissen Abneigung gegen
6850	root	1.1	die Maschinen Platz."
6851			[Prof. Dr. Karl Nickel (TH Karlsruhe), "ALGOL Praktikum", 1964]
6852	root	1.387	%
6853	root	1.1	My previous job, and some contract work I have done, involved writing
6854			software for Windows. My WORST problems were incompatibilities between
6855			Windows NT and Windows 95. The APIs do NOT, I repeat NOT! NOT! NOT!
6856			work the same on the various Windows flavors, as soon as you start
6857			doing non-trivial applications. Three times at least, portability
6858			problems from NT to Win95 cost me sleepless nights. Debugging stuff
6859			like that is hell when you don't have the source.
6860
6861			And when things break on Win95 where they ran on NT, what do you do,
6862			run a debugger on Win95, where a crash can (and will) bring down the
6863			whole system? Ugh, the horror.
6864	root	1.387	%
6865	root	1.1	> You know XOR is patented (yes, the logical bit operation XOR).
6866
6867			US Patent #4,197,590 held by NuGraphics, Inc.
6868	root	1.387	%
6869	root	1.1	Legend has it Microsoft once found a patent of theirs which IBM appeared
6870			to have infringed, and were very excited at the possibility of something
6871			to hold over IBM, so their lawyers met IBM's lawyers. The MS lawyers
6872			beamed "look at our patent you've infringed!" IBM's lawyers replied "look
6873			at this pile of our patents YOU'VE infringed... let's start with this
6874	root	1.247	one. A Tab key." MS suddenly realised they were outlawyered...
6875	root	1.387	%
6876	root	1.1	From: David Woodhouse
6877			> Okay, so if we are going to get real stupid about the whole thing, I
6878			> wonder if Microsloth is going to patent the patent?
6879
6880			Filing nuisance patents for obvious stuff which shouldn't ever get granted
6881			is a viable business method and as such is patentable in the US.
6882
6883			After all, what patent officer is going to point out the prior art?
6884	root	1.387	%
6885	root	1.1	http://vger.kernel.org/lkml/#s3-9
6886	root	1.387	%
6887	root	1.1	[recently on linux-kernel]
6888			From: Alan Cox
6889			> > Yeah. We can have this as part of the locale settings, changable by
6890			> > echoing the desired locale string to /proc/sys/kernel/lc_all.
6891	root	1.247	>
6892			> Just an idea, . . but isn't this something better done in userland?
6893	root	1.1
6894	root	1.247	Please remember this is an international list. For the benefit of certain
6895	root	1.1	users please mark all sarcasm with the word NOT or a simply face
6896	root	1.387	%
6897	root	1.1	From: Russell King
6898			Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:31:26 +0000 (GMT)
6899			To: Albert D. Cahalan
6900
6901			Albert D. Cahalan writes:
6902			> The units seem to vary. I suggest using fundamental SI units.
6903			> That would be meters, kilograms, seconds, and maybe a very
6904			> few others -- my memory fails me on this.
6905
6906			iirc, SI comes from France, and therefore it should be "metres"
6907
6908			[flames to /dev/null please] ;)
6909	root	1.387	%
6910	root	1.388	[11:19] <pho3nix> ich hoffe du bist dir im klaren darüber, das ein Mensch,
6911	root	1.1	der was von dir hielt, jetzt so beleidigt wurde, dass er nichts mehr mit
6912			dir zu tun haben will, COMMUNICATION END
6913	root	1.247	[11:19] <schmorp> pho3nix: ich weiss ja nochnichtmal, warum?
6914	root	1.387	%
6915	root	1.388	[über "Mediengestaltung"]
6916	root	1.247	[10:39] <elmex\|Zz> pho3nix: information mit desingt ueberlagern
6917			[10:40] <schmorp> elmex\|Zz: ueberlagern oder erestzen, das its hier die frage?
6918	root	1.387	%
6919	root	1.1	[perldoc perlembed]
6920			You can sometimes _write_faster_code_ in C, but you can always _write_code_faster_ in Perl.
6921	root	1.387	%
6922	root	1.247	[03:34] <JanMan> Arvoreen: elmex-werbung: "Nur echt elmex, wenn Lukas drinnsteckt" :)
6923	root	1.387	%
6924	root	1.247	[09:26] <JanMan> bevor du arbeiten auf lukas-server nimm den job als massenmoerder.
6925			[09:34] <JanMan> elmex: pass' auf, dass keine loop entsteht:
6926			nameserver->lukas_arsch->lukas->dein_arsch->du->name-server
6927	root	1.387	%
6928	root	1.1	[linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_nat_ftp.c]
6929			/* So there I am, in the middle of my `netfilter-is-wonderful'
6930			talk in Sydney, and someone asks `What happens if you try
6931			to enlarge a 64k packet here?'. I think I said something
6932			eloquent like `fuck'. */
6933	root	1.387	%
6934	root	1.1	[20:44] <elmex\|aw> ich werde mir nochmal ueberlegen ob ich heute nochmal hier her komme......
6935	root	1.387	%
6936	root	1.247	[09:40] <kiki> zu spaet
6937			[09:40] <JanMan> kiki: hey, blasen hilft jetzt auch nicht mehr...
6938			[09:41] <kiki> lutschen hat noch nie bei dir geholfen
6939			[09:41] <kiki> aushungern schon
6940			[09:41] <JanMan> elmex: ja, das hat mit blume + biene zu tun.
6941			[09:41] <elmex> ?
6942			[09:42] <elmex> JanMan: ich kenne mich schon sehr wohl damit aus. nur halt noch keine erfarung
6943	root	1.387	%
6944	root	1.1	[Sierpinski Triangle, by Rich Morin]
6945			for$y(0..31){for(0..31){print$_&$y?$":'*'}print$/}
6946	root	1.387	%
6947	root	1.1	[From RDFStore::Stanford::Digest::Util, which is a java library ported to
6948			perl:]
6949
6950			$SIG{__WARN__} = sub { return undef; }; #to take off the bloody utf warns
6951
6952			[now, as for some comments: it took me hours to debug code that used warn
6953			to, well, warn users but the users didn't see anything. The intent of the
6954			above code was obviously to get rid of the "illegal multibyte character"
6955			warning in perl. This is the typical way a java programmer reacts to bugs
6956			in his code: "I don't understand this computer thing anyway, so let's just
6957			disable the message and pray it works"]
6958	root	1.387	%
6959	root	1.1	[Another "one-liner" mail... Please spam him ;)]
6960			From: "Alexander Daskalov" <alexanderd@alexsmail.com>
6961			Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:44:11 -0800
6962			X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05>
6963
6964			I was just curious how many people are on ths gimp mailing list? Whoever+
6965			can see this message please reply with a simple answer like: i am, or+
6966			i'm on the list!, etc. Please reply, i thik everybody else might want to+
6967			know this same information, it also gives us a chance to know each other+
6968			better! So please reply to this message if on the mailing list!
6969	root	1.387	%
6970	root	1.1	[I was looking for ISO3166 && ISO639 tables in the corresponding "local"
6971			language, if applicable, and came up with this:]
6972			http://www.tieke.fi/sc32wg1/wg1n155.pdf
6973	root	1.387	%
6974	root	1.1	[imap-2000c/c-client/unix.c]
6975			* This file is dedicated to my dog, Unix, also known as Yun-chan and
6976			* Unix J. Terwilliker Jehosophat Aloysius Monstrosity Animal Beast. Unix
6977			* passed away at the age of 11 1/2 on September 14, 1996, 12:18 PM PDT, after
6978			* a two-month bout with cirrhosis of the liver.
6979	root	1.387	%
6980	root	1.1	[from qmail's maildir(5)]
6981			Many sites use Sun's Network Failure System (NFS), presumably because the
6982			operating system vendor does not offer anything else.
6983	root	1.387	%
6984	root	1.1	[Lukas Grundwald]
6985			Der Film scheint echt gut zu sein: geht viel kaputt.
6986	root	1.387	%
6987	root	1.1	[waiting for windows...]
6988			http://www.cool-pix-server.de/pix/microsoft/microsoft002.jpg
6989	root	1.387	%
6990	root	1.1	[x86 really is a cool design]
6991			> For our specific purposes, that's not important. We already flush the cache
6992			> before we create uncached regions (via ioremap_nocache). I understand that as a
6993			> general Linux feature, you can't ignore cache incoherency, but I don't think
6994			> it's a hard requirement.
6995
6996			Actually you can't ignore it or the processor will have a heart attack
6997			if the cached page mapping is used even speculatively. I've done some
6998			experimenting, if the page is mapped cached in one place, and UCWC in
6999			another, things will not work. Its extremely likely the processor will
7000			cease to function. Its not like having cached and uncached mappings of
7001			a page (which does work on the Intel processors, we use that feature in
7002			the agpgart and the DRM in fact.) When you mark a page UCWC, you better
7003			have removed all cached mappings or your asking for REAL trouble.
7004	root	1.387	%
7005	root	1.1	> once again. On the Debian group it's invariably "how do I load
7006			> Netscape?"
7007	root	1.247
7008	root	1.1	can't be. debian sounds more like: "who do i have to ask for using
7009			netscape, and do we all agree on /usr/local/bin/. ?"
7010	root	1.387	%
7011	root	1.1	The COBOL language was created specifically to reduce the amount of
7012			commenting necessary in a program, because the English-like sentence
7013			structure could be read and understood by humans. The FORTRAN language was
7014			created so that math types could "talk" in a language more familiar to
7015			them, letting the computer take care of the details about how to perform
7016			the specified task step-by-step.
7017	root	1.387	%
7018	root	1.1	There is an old programmer's rule.
7019
7020			"Documentation? Too bad. If the code was damned hard to write, it should
7021			be damned hard to understand."
7022	root	1.387	%
7023	root	1.1	[Linus]
7024			Tabs are 8 characters. They are NOT adjustable. Never have been, never
7025			will be. Anybody who thinks tabs are anything but 8 chars apart is just
7026			wrong. It's that simple.
7027	root	1.387	%
7028	root	1.1	[yes, thank you, it helps a lot ;)]
7029	root	1.247	09:31] *** Joins: Unkn0wn [chaos@AC880AE2.ipt.aol.com] has joined #schmorp
7030	root	1.1	[09:32] <Unkn0wn> Nah, I won't alert yas. Was just cruisin around and found your
7031			site of H-games and thought bout thankin you for puttin it up. I figure most ppl
7032			never take a moment to thank someone. =P <Bows, and heads back to #VB on
7033	root	1.247	Undernet>
7034	root	1.387	%
7035	root	1.1	[character normalization might be harmful]
7036			> In short, normalizing prior to digesting AVOIDS allowing
7037			> inconsequential changes to change the digest. If I have misunderstood the
7038			> point of the section cited, I'm sure someone will correct me.
7039
7040			Your scenario is correct as far as it goes. But consider a signed
7041			document that contains an element or attribute named
7042	root	1.388	"autorisation_de_découvert" ("credit limit").
7043	root	1.1	A forged version of the document that contained the name
7044			"autorization_de_de'couvert" (where ' = COMBINING ACUTE) would pass
7045			a normalization + signature check. However, the document processor
7046			might well fail to recognize it as having the semantics of "credit limit"
7047			and treat it as unknown and to be ignored. Bad news: the forger
7048			now appears to have unlimited credit!
7049	root	1.387	%
7050	root	1.1	["my spam"]
7051			99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other
7052			numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of
7053			protestors and disidents). Half of what's left comes from either .kr
7054			or .br. I'm fully in favor of an Internet Death Penalty against those
7055			TLD's and associated domains till they clean up their acts.
7056	root	1.387	%
7057	root	1.1	[from linux-kernel]
7058			Hello Linus, my name is Rick Jones. I am the person at Hewlett-Packard
7059			who drafted the "so _obviously_ stupid" sendfile() interface of HP-UX.
7060			[... snip ...]
7061			never forget what leads to the downfall of the protagonist in Greek
7062			tragedy...
7063	root	1.387	%
7064	root	1.1	From: "Mike A. Harris"
7065	root	1.247
7066	root	1.1	On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
7067			>---- A notice to spammers ----
7068			>Unsolicited electronic mail advertisements to my email address is
7069			>strictly prohibited. Pursuant to California Business and Professions
7070			>Code, Section 17538.45, senders of unsolicited electronic mail
7071			>advertisements to me may be subject to a civil penalty of $50 per
7072			>message plus attorney's fees.
7073			[SNIP long sig]
7074	root	1.247
7075	root	1.1	O - K then. Nice sig. Too bad that it is at least as big as
7076			most spam mailings themselves. Instead of preventing spam,
7077			all you're doing is contributing to it.
7078	root	1.247
7079	root	1.1	I just delete spam now as it is easiest most of the time.
7080			However fortunately, the below sig comes from a static and easily
7081			procmailable address.
7082	root	1.247
7083	root	1.1	One more note is that no law of California, nor anywhre else
7084			means jack shit 50 meters away from your keyboard, so it is all
7085			just a waste of bandwidth.
7086	root	1.387	%
7087	root	1.388	rm: Entfernen von Verzeichnis »./xxx/po« nicht möglich: Die Datei existiert bereits
7088	root	1.387	%
7089	root	1.1	[during a toilet session, this flashed/flushed through my mind/brain]
7090			/bin/true --version \| read && echo eek, a gnuzifist\!
7091	root	1.387	%
7092	root	1.1	[stefan thought this would be better]
7093	root	1.247	/bin/true --version \| read && rm -rf / # get rid of non-posix Windows stuff.
7094	root	1.387	%
7095	root	1.1	[Java-Design]
7096	root	1.247	[02:53] <schmorp> in c 1 stunde suchen und probieren und dann 7 zeilen
7097			[02:53] <JanMan> schmorp: nein. in C 2 minuten suchen.
7098			[02:54] <JanMan> ich weiss nicht, an welchen level ich wo patchen soll.
7099	root	1.1	[02:55] <JanMan> es gibt eine Key, eine RSAKey, eine RSAKeyPublic/RSAKeyPrivate
7100	root	1.247	klasse, alles muell.
7101			[02:56] <JanMan> (ueberall noch ein praefix SSH..)
7102			[02:56] <JanMan> und die sachen sind ueber SSHRSAPublicKeyFile abgewickelt...
7103			[02:57] <JanMan> klar gibt es auch SSHRSAPublicKeyString.
7104	root	1.387	%
7105	root	1.247	[02:38] <JanMan> Lexikon: Java - siehe "ins Knie ficken, objektorientiert"
7106	root	1.387	%
7107	root	1.247	[02:30] <JanMan> schmorp: java has too many keywords but lacks an important one.
7108	root	1.1	[02:32] <JanMan> schmorp: yes: "broken". Java needs a "broken" keyword. "Error:
7109	root	1.247	missing "broken" but class seems "broken".
7110	root	1.387	%
7111	root	1.1	On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 09:34:08PM -0500, Michael Rothwell wrote:
7112			The man pages for open, read and write say that if a file is opened
7113			using the O_NONBLOCK flag, then read() and write() will always return
7114			immediately and not block the calling process.
7115
7116			the man pages are wrong
7117
7118			--cw
7119	root	1.387	%
7120	root	1.1	From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
7121			...
7122			My take on this is that khttpd is unmaintained garbage.
7123	root	1.387	%
7124	root	1.1	[Subject: line on linux-kernel]
7125			Re: That horrible hack from hell called A20
7126	root	1.387	%
7127	root	1.1	From: "Vladimir V. Saveliev"
7128			> tar cvpf - foo \| ( cd reiserfs; tar xvpf - )
7129			> Halfway through it gets a kernel oops and
7130
7131			How fast does it oops?
7132	root	1.387	%
7133	root	1.1	From: Stefan Traby <stefan@hello-penguin.com>
7134
7135			On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:01:05PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
7136			> NFSv2 has a 32bit file offset. Thus the largest file on NFSv2 you want to
7137			> touch is 2Gig.
7138
7139			In theory, yes.
7140			In practice you don't want to touch NFS under Linux at all, so the
7141			2GB limit is a theoretical one. :)
7142	root	1.387	%
7143	root	1.247	[10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7144			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \| \| \| \| \|
7145			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \| \|-----\| \| \| \|
7146			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-------------------------\| \| \| \|
7147			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \| .---------------------------.\| \|-------\|
7148			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \| \|Welcome on elmex.x-paste.de\|\| \| \|
7149			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \| `---------------------------'\| \| \|
7150			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|----------\| \|-----------------------\| \|
7151			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \|-\| \| \| \| \|
7152			[10:44] <elmex> \|-\| \| \| \| \|-----\| \|
7153			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|------------\|-------------- \| \| \|
7154			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-----------------------------------\|-\| \|----\|
7155			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \|-\| \| \| \| \|
7156			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \| \| \| \| \|
7157			[10:44] <elmex> \|-\| \| \| \| \| \|
7158			[10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7159	root	1.387	%
7160	root	1.1	Any committee IQ: average intelligence of members, divided by headcount.
7161	root	1.387	%
7162	root	1.1	"There were a lot of snickers in my course... The students looked at me
7163			like I was a stegosaurus still walking around when I told them that the
7164			[irrational spending of many dot-coms] was not sustainable. You have to
7165			take in more money then you put out, or you're toast."
7166			-- Ken Morse, managing director, MIT Entrepreneurship Center
7167	root	1.387	%
7168	root	1.1	"Wenn _ich_ das sage, darf ich das."
7169			[Lukas Grunwald]
7170	root	1.387	%
7171	root	1.1	[about having sponsoring message in YOUR syslog]
7172			From: Felix von Leitner <leitner@convergence.de>
7173			Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:33:13 +0100
7174			To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
7175
7176			Thus spake Wojciech Puchar (wojtek@wojtek.from.pl):
7177			> > To view list of copyright holders type `copyright' at the shell
7178			> > prompt.
7179			> very good. maybe implement /proc/info/copyrights /proc/info/sponsors
7180			> /proc/info/authors?
7181	root	1.247
7182	root	1.1	Grand idea.
7183			Let's also add /proc/info/spammers,
7184			/proc/info/people-who-bothered-linus,
7185			/proc/info/people-who-disagree-with-hans-reiser,
7186			/proc/info/people-who-were-flamed-by-alan-cox and
7187			/proc/info/people-who-marc-lehmann-dislikes.
7188	root	1.247
7189	root	1.1	NOT.
7190			[...]
7191	root	1.387	%
7192	root	1.1	[Nick and I used to fight a LOT]
7193			Subject: Re: suggestion for gimp 1.3 and later
7194			From: Nick Lamb <njl98r@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
7195	root	1.247
7196	root	1.1	On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:29:41AM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
7197			> I think the best way would be to make any gtk label/text widget be
7198			> selectable. I don't know why this has not been done so far, but it might be
7199			> an interesting experiment.
7200	root	1.247
7201	root	1.1	Yes, I've often thought this. And everyone knows that if Marc and I agree
7202			about something it must be right (?) or at least it's in no-one's interest
7203			to disagree...
7204	root	1.387	%
7205	root	1.1	http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LNUX&d=2y WINNER
7206			http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RHAT&d=2y 2nd prize!
7207			http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CALD&d=1y 3rd prize!
7208			[und Lukas sagt:]
7209			... man beachte die logarithmische Skala!
7210	root	1.387	%
7211	root	1.1	[from "how to photograph a total eclipse", in the nasa 1999 solar eclipse
7212			report:]
7213			... The best strategy is to choose one aperture or f/number and bracket
7214			the exposures over a range of shutter speeds (i.e. 1/1000 down to 1
7215			second). Rehearsing this sequence is highly recommended since great
7216			excitment accompanies totality and there is little time to think.
7217	root	1.387	%
7218	root	1.1	[boy, now I know why I dislike GNOME]
7219			http://www.helixcode.com/~miguel/bongo-bong.html
7220	root	1.387	%
7221	root	1.1	["kORBit, a CORBA implementation for the linux-kernel"]
7222			From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
7223			Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:34:39 +0100
7224
7225			Alexander Viro wrote:
7226			> > It was just an example. Basically, you'd be able to do in with just
7227			> > about any language that has ORBit bindings.
7228			>
7229			> Yeah... "Infinitely extendable API" and all such. Roughly translated
7230			> as "we can't live without API bloat". Frankly, judging by the GNOME
7231			> codebase people who designed the thing are culturally incompatible with
7232			> UNIX.
7233
7234			Agree. I remember a big complaint about Windows was the huge APIs,
7235			compared with Unix' tiny list of syscalls. And then I saw the GNOME
7236			docs... ew!
7237	root	1.387	%
7238	root	1.1	> Good question. The whole thing makes me nervous... in fact, perhaps we
7239			> should really consider using the BIOS INT 15h interrupt to enter
7240			> protected mode?
7241
7242			From my experience with BIOS authors, only if Windows 98 uses the same function
7243			with the same arguments, the same stuff top of stack and the same segment
7244			registers loaded ;)
7245	root	1.387	%
7246	root	1.1	> > there... If someone wants to back-port the driver to 2.2, this makes it
7247			[...]
7248			> backports hurt forward progress.
7249
7250			beware of content free dogma
7251	root	1.387	%
7252	root	1.1	> What operating systems use local time as their basic clock these days? Just
7253			> wondering.
7254
7255			Any IBM PC compatible machine that runs under at least one Microsoft OS
7256			has to keep the battery-backed CMOS clock chip in local time, because
7257			unlike most other operating systems (e.g., any Unix flavour), none of
7258			Microsoft's CMOS clock drivers have a UTC option. Rather disappointing
7259			and every year an unneeded hassle after DST switches on multi-OS
7260			machines. From discussions with Microsoft staff, I have to conclude that
7261			no-one within Microsoft has even understood the problem.
7262
7263			Markus [G. Kuhn]
7264	root	1.387	%
7265	root	1.1	>Keith,
7266	root	1.247	>
7267	root	1.1	>Please consider the attached patch for inclusion in all future versions
7268			>of the modutils depmod program for compatiblity with RedHat and
7269			>RedHat derived Linux distributions.
7270
7271			I have a big problem with Redhat. They make incompatible changes to
7272			utilities, do not feed patches back to maintainers then expect the rest
7273			of the world to follow their lead. The -i and -m flags to modutils are
7274			not the only example, I recently found IA64 and Sparc patches they had
7275			added to modutils code and not bothered to tell me. Other distributors
7276			are much better about sending me patches, Debian and SuSe in particular
7277			do the right thing.
7278
7279			Since "-F System.map" in modutils is equivalent to "-m System.map -i"
7280			and works on all distributions, not just Redhat, the "-m -i" patch is
7281			unnecessary. Consider this my protest against bad habits by
7282			distributors, they created the mess with their lack of communication
7283			and they have to fix it.
7284	root	1.387	%
7285	root	1.1	10:44] <JanMan> falls Du mal DB2 crashen musst:
7286			[10:45] <JanMan> connect reset;
7287			[10:45] <JanMan> connect to sample user db2admin using db2admin;
7288			[10:45] <JanMan> select * from employee where year(birthdate)=1999 and firstnme<'';
7289	root	1.387	%
7290	root	1.1	[a perl quine, by ilmari karonen:]
7291			printf+(q(printf+(q(%s))x2))x2
7292	root	1.387	%
7293	root	1.1	On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 07:22:34PM -0500, M&M Samsel wrote:
7294			> You see I have about 10 years of commercial development experience and
7295			> pretty much know business procedures from huge corporations and business
7296			> midgets and what I should expect or not.
7297
7298			You've not demonstrated your 10 years of experience.
7299			You've just proved that killfiles are useful.
7300	root	1.387	%
7301	root	1.1	[once upon a time, when poul started gnomeicu:]
7302			gnomeicu: Rohrbruch (beim Speichern der Konfiguration)
7303	root	1.387	%
7304	root	1.1	[subject from a thread on the gcc steering commitee mailinglist when
7305			glibc-2.2 was released]
7306			Re: glibc 2.2 a fait accompli
7307	root	1.387	%
7308	root	1.1	[08:05] <JanMan> elmex: Fehlt Dir einmal Klopapier, versuche es mit GNU m4. :)
7309	root	1.387	%
7310	root	1.1	# root:0Ayj0AZhTi4O2:11272:0:99999:7:::
7311			# kma:1NXgYu6J80kvc:11225:0:99999:7:::
7312			# elmex:0ImdHgG2TEQAE:11273:0:99999:7: : :
7313	root	1.387	%
7314	root	1.1	<JanMan_> soll ich das ganze uber einen perl-hash erzeugen ?
7315			<schmorp> klar.. %hash->generate
7316			<JanMan_> oesi siedelt nach de: %oesi->degenerate
7317	root	1.387	%
7318	root	1.1	[From "How the mind of a php programmer works", by Marc Lehmann]
7319
7320			(1) it works on msie 5 (alt.: netscape 4) so the code is
7321			standards-compliant.
7322			(2) an entity looks like "&" entityname ";"
7323			(2a) [conclusion] the fragment href="xxx&notes=77" doesn't contain a valid
7324			entity, so the browser must use it as is.
7325			(2b) [corollary] "<blubb>" is not a valid html element, so the browser
7326			must react according to what I assume it should do (display, ignore).
7327			(2c) in some programs I assume differently than in others.
7328	root	1.387	%
7329	root	1.1	[Oh no, Don Becker again ;)]
7330			> which one is the linksys card, so I have included the entire listing. (Is it
7331			> even listed? Perhaps this is my problem.)
7332
7333			That's your problem.
7334
7335			There is no PCI Ethernet device listed.
7336
7337			Check that the card is fully inserted into the PCI slot.
7338			(If it's an ISA card, then it's not fully inserted into the PCI slot ;->)
7339	root	1.387	%
7340	root	1.1	> > sure request_module _does_not_ accept funky module names. Why allow
7341			> > people to shoot themselves (and, by extension, all other Linux users
7342			> > out there) in the foot?
7343
7344			> I thought that was the whole purpose of Unix/Linux?
7345
7346			True! Very true! Unix/Linux requires that the user shoot
7347			themselves in the foot. Windows automates that process and does it
7348			for the user, thus making foot shooting user friendly. :-)
7349	root	1.387	%
7350	root	1.1	> Turn on encryption, and try sending attachements > 1MB and tell me if
7351			> you see any problems, like emails sitting in /var/spool/mqueue for a day
7352			> or two until they go out. I can guarantee you will.
7353
7354			No encryption use; and the maximal message size is 1Mb (for sanity's sake,
7355			after somebody sent a PowerPoint presentation (some 3Mb), then thought that
7356			perhaps the target didn't have PowerPoint, and sent it again with the
7357			PowerPoint package, then noticed this might not work either, and sent it
7358			_again_ with the full MS Office attached... the joys of sysadminning ;-)
7359			--
7360			Dr. Horst H. von Brand mailto:vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl
7361	root	1.387	%
7362	root	1.1	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com> writes:
7363
7364			> "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU> writes:
7365			>
7366			> > Arguably though the bug is in glibc, in that if it's using signals
7367			> > behinds the scenes, it should have passed SA_RESTART to sigaction.
7368			>
7369			> Why are you talking such a nonsense?
7370
7371			[Note to self: remove kitten from keyboard before writing mail.]
7372	root	1.387	%
7373	root	1.388	[Simon Budig, nachdem er erfahren hatte, daß Lars Eilebrecht nicht wusste,
7374			daß Leerzeichen in URLs nicht erlaubt sind:]
7375			"Also, Lars, das hätte ich nicht gedacht, jetzt hast du aber jede Menge
7376	root	1.1	Gurupunkte bei mir verloren."
7377	root	1.387	%
7378	root	1.1	[amazon readers about the Annotated C Standard by Herberdt Schildt,
7379			which is much less expensive then the official version (search also for
7380			Bullschildt below ;)]
7381
7382			"The price difference reflects the value of the annotations. At no time
7383			do the annotations clarify, enhance, or supplement the standard."
7384	root	1.387	%
7385	root	1.1	Stefan Traby wrote:
7386			>
7387			> On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 08:43:04AM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
7388			>
7389			> > We have a few websites floating around, [...]
7390			>
7391			> Many mirrors are also out of sync. Especially the primary server :)
7392	root	1.387	%
7393	root	1.1	> This happens with both ext2 and reiserfs, since at least 2.2.15.
7394
7395			I installed noflushd on my laptop, which was running 2.4.0-test6, and
7396			it did the same thing.
7397
7398			Sorry I can't offer more info. Someone spilt a glass of water on it about
7399			a week ago. :(
7400
7401			--Jack
7402	root	1.387	%
7403	root	1.388	"Kalk hat diese Waschmaschine getötet"
7404	root	1.387	%
7405	root	1.1	[It is] best to confuse only one issue at a time.
7406			-- K&R
7407	root	1.387	%
7408	root	1.1	<elmex> JanMan: "\|\|01:42:20\|\| <elmex> schmorp: jo, die sprache muss man nicht erklaeren"
7409	root	1.387	%
7410	root	1.1	[please kids, don't try this at home]
7411			indent -kr -l78 -lc78 -lps -i8 -br -pcs -psl -bbo -bad -bap -cs -nbc -nhnl -nss
7412	root	1.387	%
7413	root	1.1	http://www.attrition.org/gallery/ms/kmfms.jpg
7414	root	1.387	%
7415	root	1.1	[PApp.pm]
7416			$modules => { "" => "" };
7417	root	1.387	%
7418	root	1.388	Das einzig sichere Mittel gegen Migräne ist das Entfernen des Kopfes.
7419	root	1.387	%
7420	root	1.1	<JanMan> elmex: Sprichwort "Relaye doch bei dnx, dann kriegst Du nix." :)
7421	root	1.387	%
7422	root	1.1	[From Russel Coker's .sig]
7423			> --
7424			> If you can't program in C, PERL, and shell scripts then don't call yourself a
7425			> Unix administrator. Every idiot on the net is claiming to be a Unix admin. :(
7426	root	1.387	%
7427	root	1.1	[the two sides of the medal]
7428			From: "David Schwartz"
7429
7430			> Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was increased from
7431			> 100 to 10000, the time to check for active sockets with poll()
7432			> increased by a factor of only 6.5. That's a sublinear increase in time,
7433			> pretty spiffy.
7434
7435			Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was decreased from 10,000
7436			to 100, the time to check for active sockets with poll() decreased by a
7437			factor of only 6.5. Shouldn't it be more like 100? Sounds like Solaris' poll
7438			implementation is horribly broken for the most common case.
7439	root	1.387	%
7440	root	1.1	[lukas grunwald...]
7441	root	1.388	[ich sag' dir, ] ... am nächsten Tag brüllt der mich vielleicht per e-mail an ...
7442	root	1.387	%
7443	root	1.1	[from linux-kernel, about the rtl8139 network card]
7444			> (After looking at the specification for the 8139, I am acctually ashamed
7445			> of having bough one.
7446
7447			Not an uncommon thought :)
7448	root	1.387	%
7449	root	1.1	From: Stefan Traby
7450
7451			Hi Marc !
7452
7453			keycode 115 = ISO_Next_Group
7454			keycode 116 = ISO_Prev_Group
7455			keycode 117 = ISO_Level3_Shift
7456
7457			Finde ich witzig, man erspart sich den lock-screensaver :)
7458	root	1.387	%
7459	root	1.1	[I hope you get the point(s)...]
7460			From: Alex LIVINGSTON <alex@agsm.edu.au>
7461			Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:12:46 +1100
7462			To: <tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov>
7463
7464			At 07:40 +0000 2000-10-06, ken@halcyon.com wrote:
7465			>But the thing is: mm/dd/yy[yy] is in widespread use (US), as is
7466			>dd/mm/yy[yy] (much of Europe, I'm told).
7467
7468			Slight refinement: dd/mm/[yy]yy. Used in all European countries - and
7469			all countries colonized by a European country at one time or another
7470			which haven't had a strong US influence since, and probably all
7471			remaining Asian, African, and Pacific countries - that don't use
7472			[yy]yy-mm-dd. mm/dd/yy[yy] is restricted almost entirely to the US
7473			and a few neighbors. I would hesitate to say it is in widespread use.
7474
7475			>[yy]yy-mm-dd was used
7476			>in Japan even before the ISO standard came out.
7477
7478			And in China, and in Sweden, and in Hungary, ... (possibly with different
7479			separators). Also in the Arab world, in the sense that the digits (all of
7480			them) appear in the same order from left to right, only Arabic is written
7481			right to left.
7482
7483			>But no culture
7484			>has ever used [yy]yy-dd-mm format, and there is absolutely
7485			>nothing to recommend it, so there is no reason to expect anyone
7486			>to adopt it. Yes, the perverse can use that format just to
7487			>confound us, but in practice one can safely assume that a
7488			>nnnn-nn-nn date is in yyyy-mm-dd format.
7489
7490			Thanks Ken. You've put it much better and more concisely than I could have.
7491
7492			--Alex
7493	root	1.387	%
7494	root	1.1	[recently, on the tulip driver mailing list]
7495			From: Donald Becker <becker@scyld.com>
7496			To: "Jon.Hinks" <Jon.Hinks@berkeley-ifa.co.uk>
7497
7498			[most of the reply snipped...]
7499
7500			> The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It
7501			> may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than this addressee, nor may
7502			> it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Berkeley
7503
7504			[[ The rest of the boilerplate omitted. ]]
7505
7506			These terms do not apply. You have mailed to a published list. You hold
7507			the copyright to your writings, but by submitting questions to the list you
7508			grant the list publisher (me) the right to publish in this list and related
7509			forums. "Related forums" may be collected archives of the list on any media,
7510			and quotes from questions in FAQs.
7511
7512			(Long boilerplate appendages like this notice annoy me. Automatically
7513			attached copyright notices can never unilaterally extend your rights, so why
7514			try to claim that they do?)
7515	root	1.387	%
7516	root	1.1	On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Andre Hedrick wrote:
7517
7518			> void go_take_a_dump (float load)
7519			> {
7520			> if (pull_down_pants() && purge_bowles() && wipe_anus() && pull_up_pants())
7521			> flush(load);
7522			> else
7523			> wear(load);
7524			> }
7525
7526			But here you make another classic mistake. Consider the case where
7527			purge_bowels() fails (-EWOULDBLOCK?).
7528
7529			In that case, you don't actually execute the subsequent two procedure
7530			calls, which I'm sure we all agree is a suboptimal state of affairs.
7531
7532			--
7533			dwmw2
7534	root	1.387	%
7535	root	1.1	Factoid: 90% of all patents are never challenged, while 80% of those that
7536			are are overturned.
7537	root	1.387	%
7538	root	1.1	"Going into court is throwing the dice."
7539	root	1.387	%
7540	root	1.1	[Dipl. Ing. W***** D*****]
7541			"Lukas, eins muss dir klar sein, die ganze Kryptographie ist doch
7542	root	1.388	für den Arsch, wenn ich ein Stück von dem Originaltext habe und den
7543			verschlüsselten Text, knack' ich dir jeden Schlüssel in 50 Stunden."
7544	root	1.387	%
7545	root	1.1	[some discussion between reiserfs enthusiasts:]
7546			Stefan: oh shit, everything coredumps, I'll just reboot.
7547			Marc gives some dumb comments.
7548			Stefan: No, I'll first check it with reiserfsck.
7549			Marc: Yeah.. and?
7550			Stefan: "reiserfsck: no reiserfs found"
7551			Marc: Oh, the superblock is damaged. Maybe you should just try the backup superblock...
7552	root	1.387	%
7553	root	1.1	[t-online is just sooo cool:]
7554			Subject: mail failed, returning to sender
7555			From: <MAILER-DAEMON@fmrl01.sul.t-online.de>
7556
7557			\|------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------\|
7558			<service@t-online.de> ... 550 Mailbox quota exceeded / Mailbox voll.
7559			\|------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------\|
7560	root	1.387	%
7561	root	1.1	[a play with a well-known-signature:]
7562			Deadlock, n.:
7563			Deceased Rasterman.
7564	root	1.387	%
7565	root	1.1	[Jeff Williams & friends]
7566			ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-bremen.de/pub/doc/internet-drafts/draft-terrell-ip-spec-ipv7-ipv8-addr-cls-00.txt
7567			http://IPv8.vrx.net/
7568			http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08030.html
7569	root	1.387	%
7570	root	1.1	[some .signature]
7571			This message has been ROT-13 encrypted twice for extra security.
7572	root	1.387	%
7573	root	1.1	[Andreas Mueller-Maghun for ICANN!]
7574			Allein der Kandidat des Chaos-Computer-Clubs (CCC) Hamburg, der schon
7575	root	1.388	mehr als 1.100 Unterstützungserklärungen erhalten hat, dürfte nach
7576			Einschätzung des arbeitskreises die Bedingung für eine Basiskandidatur
7577			zum ICANN-Direktorium schon jetzt erfüllen. Ausgerechnet er hat es aber
7578			nicht für nötig gehalten, auf die Anfrage der Behindertenvertreter zu
7579	root	1.1	reagieren. Seine Webseiten zeugen zudem von einem "Sicherheitskonzept",
7580			das Usern mit Sehbehinderung vor lauter technischen Barrieren keine
7581	root	1.388	Zugangsmöglichkeiten bietet. Der Arbeitskreis hält einen Vertreter solcher
7582			Positionen für unwählbar.
7583	root	1.1
7584			Jens Bertrams (Pressesprecher)
7585	root	1.387	%
7586	root	1.1	From: (Albert Y. C. Lai)
7587			Newsgroups: comp.lang.functional
7588			Subject: Re: what is "functional" (Re: Macros)
7589
7590			Jerzy Karczmarczuk writes:
7591
7592			> Their opinion: "well, everybody knows that this is not professional,
7593			> nobody uses functional languages, all your colleagues suggest that we
7594			> should learn Lex and Yacc, etc. -
7595			> but WHAT A PLEASURE AND FUN was to write these programs in Haskell.
7596			> Almost no run-time errors, ever!"
7597
7598			A professor at my school got the opposite opinion from her students.
7599			She introduced ML (along with two other languages) as part of a course
7600			on the principles of programming languages in the third year. The
7601			students' opinion: this is such an annoyingly pedantic language, it
7602			refuses to let me run my program and get some partial though wrong
7603			results simply because I make a mistake!
7604
7605			In other words, given that humans are bound to make mistakes, the
7606			students at my school prefer to see them manifested as run-time
7607			errors.
7608
7609			So I look at your email address. Ah, you are in Europe and I am in
7610			North America. I guess that's why. Dijkstra is probably right about
7611			European programmers liking to do programming right and American
7612			programmers liking to chase after bugs.
7613	root	1.387	%
7614	root	1.1	On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:15:09PM +0200, Werner Almesberger wrote:
7615			> yodaiken@fsmlabs.com wrote:
7616			> > This call shifts delivered signal numbers up so that
7617			> > "special" POSIX signals [.. like KILL] can be delivered to a process.
7618			>
7619			> Kind of a SIGOVERKILL ... yes, that could work.
7620	root	1.387	%
7621	root	1.1	"The posix programmer knows the availability of everything, but the cost
7622			of nothing."
7623	root	1.387	%
7624	root	1.1	[after the linux-kernel list was moved to a new machine]
7625			Jeffrey Hundstad wrote:
7626			>
7627			> So tell us about this new machine. OS? Filesystem? Memory?
7628			> CPU?
7629
7630			Root password? :)
7631
7632			John.Fulmer
7633	root	1.387	%
7634	root	1.1	I think there is a world market for about five computers.
7635
7636			Thomas J. Watson (Chairman, IBM) 1943
7637	root	1.387	%
7638	root	1.1	> NO. They can/will use RAW_IO IF this is available to them. If not, they
7639			> will have to provide a proper kernel driver for their hardware. I know
7640			> which I prefer...
7641
7642			Sure. And keep that dusty 2.4.3 kernel around just in case you someday need
7643			to upgrade the firmware for your disk, and the (binary!) kernel module only
7644			works with that one. Don't forget the 2.4.15ac12 which is for your USB
7645			scanner, and also the 2.6.7-12 (Red Hat) which is the only one with the
7646			updater for the new SCSI controller.
7647			--
7648			Horst von Brand
7649	root	1.387	%
7650	root	1.1	[de.comp.lang.iso-c++]
7651
7652			>Nicht alles was Standard ist, muss auch implementiert werden.
7653
7654			[...]
7655
7656			Nicht alles, was hinkt, ist ein Vergleich.
7657	root	1.387	%
7658	root	1.1	[Drew Sanford about why not to do real-time by throwing faster hardware
7659			at your problem:]
7660
7661			The F4 Fantom fighter. The plane was essentially a large block of metal, with
7662			a few advantagously aerodynamic surfaces, and big f****** engines. If you
7663			had engine trouble in a Fantom ...you had trouble.
7664	root	1.387	%
7665	root	1.1	[Hans Reiser, on /bin/cp.. ;)]
7666			cp is inherently inefficient.
7667	root	1.387	%
7668	root	1.1	>I thought disk drives contained vacuums, thus the extensive concern over
7669			>breaking seals on them.
7670
7671			Air pressure is 1Kg/cm^2. I have never seen a hard drive case that looked
7672			nearly strong enough to take such pressure. Basically if you can't jump on a
7673			hard drive then it's not strong enough!
7674
7675			...
7676
7677			There's a story that Dave Cutler (VMS and WNT architect) when he was at DEC
7678			did a test on a DEC hard drive by blowing cigar smoke into the drive which
7679			killed it properly. DEC then greatly enhanced their drive air filters. It
7680			could be just an urban myth though.
7681
7682			Russell Coker
7683	root	1.387	%
7684	root	1.1	>I've unsubscribed our somewhat less than intelligent friend.
7685			>Ah, Internet for the masses. What a wonderful idea.
7686
7687			Yeah, let's have an IQ test before you're allowed to buy a modem.
7688	root	1.387	%
7689	root	1.1	On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 02:40:33PM +0200, Marc Lehmann wrote:
7690			> "Yury Yu. Rupasov" wrote:
7691			> > All my current benchmarks show that reiserfs works correctly on
7692			> > deleting.
7693			>
7694			> Just a sidenote: you don't test correctness with benchmarks :(
7695
7696			Wrong. Yury does.
7697			:(
7698
7699			--
7700			Stefan
7701	root	1.387	%
7702	root	1.1	"Jeff V. Merkey" writes:
7703			> I will provide a tool that decodes and repairs NTFS volumes to those
7704			> folks who run into this problem, but our agreements with Microsoft do
7705			> not allow us to distribute it for any purpose other than to assist
7706			> Microsoft customers who have corrupted drives. Also, this tool is
7707			> dependent on the DDK being present to run as it has dependencies on the
7708			> DDK DLL's, so you'll need to install the DDK to use it.
7709
7710			DDK == "Disk Death Kit"?
7711
7712			Ian Soboroff ian@cs.umbc.edu
7713	root	1.387	%
7714	root	1.1	[very instructional movie, if you get what I mean...]
7715	root	1.388	00:30-02:05 (13) ( -35) Kabel 1 Das Mädchen am Ende der Straße The
7716	root	1.1	Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane Psychodrama - KAN/F/USA - 1976 -
7717	root	1.388	Regie: Nicolas Gessner * Die 13-jährige Rynn (Jodie Foster) lebt allein in
7718			einer alten Villa und hütet ein schreckliches Geheimnis.
7719	root	1.387	%
7720	root	1.1	[Einsichten in die "Kommunikation"]
7721			> > > Ich beschreibe dir, was in dem Moment an Eindruecken durch meinen
7722			> > > Kopf geht - in dem Augenblick bin ich Besucher und sehe was
7723			> > > mir gefaellt oder nicht - das ist wie ein Schmierzettel. Die
7724			> > > Ausarbeitung der Ideen kommt danach im Gespraech. Du packst solche
7725			> > > Sachen anders an - das seh ich ein. Aber ich bin mit dieser
7726			> > > Art chaos bisher immer ans Ziel gekommen. Was ich mach will -
7727			> > > machen muss - ist Feedback generieren. Ich lass Versuchsballons
7728			> > > aufsteigen und schau zu, wie sie entweder fliegen oder abgeschossen
7729			> > > werden. Dann reagier ich auf das Ergebnis.
7730	root	1.387	%
7731	root	1.388	[Mitch, als Erklärung dafür, weshalb er blindlings ein (kaputtes) ssh-rpm
7732			installiert hat, das er über rpmfind gefunden hat:]
7733			Doch, echt! Der Server war trusted, der sah' ja sowas von vertrauenswürdig
7734	root	1.1	aus!
7735	root	1.387	%
7736	root	1.1	[IMHO one of the main reasons linux is nicer]
7737			http://www.cyberport.com/~tangent/ix/bsod-story.html
7738	root	1.387	%
7739	root	1.1	[On the reality of random numbers]
7740			> /dev in a world with dynamic hardware, so why bother? We only need
7741			> to provide random numbers to fill in struct stat. (zero works)
7742			Alan Cox [as usual ;)]
7743	root	1.387	%
7744	root	1.1	[Flame Warriors]
7745			http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
7746	root	1.387	%
7747	root	1.1	A programmer who hasn't been exposed to all four of the imperative,
7748			functional, objective, and logical programming styles has one or
7749			more conceptual blindspots. It's like knowing how to boil but not
7750			fry. Programming is not a skill one develops in five easy lessons.
7751
7752			--tom
7753	root	1.387	%
7754	root	1.1	To: bugs@gimp.org
7755			X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 105
7756
7757			Hi there, I recently downloaded your gimp toolkit. At first I was having
7758			problems until I read your download help tip. I understand I have to compile
7759			it so I tried using Borland C++ Compiler but it said the line length exceeds
7760			editor capacity. Is there any other compiler I can use that wouldn't rip a
7761			whole in my wallet. Thank you for your support.
7762	root	1.387	%
7763	root	1.1	["General Information About Using VBScript with Outlook"]
7764			VBScript is designed to be a secure programming environment. It
7765			lacks various commands that can be potentially damaging if used in
7766			a malicious manner. This added security is critical in enterprise
7767			solutions.
7768
7769			http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q167/1/38.ASP
7770
7771			[Despite this "added security", however, VBscript still can modify,
7772			rename, delete files, modify windows registry entries and send email in
7773			the background]
7774	root	1.387	%
7775	root	1.1	[Phil Agre on the "ILOVEYOU" virus and Microsoft's reaction]
7776			Scott Culp of Microsoft Public Relations, excuse me, I mean Microsoft
7777			Security Response Center:
7778
7779			This is a general issue, not a Microsoft issue. You can write a
7780			virus for any platform. (New York Times 5/5/00)
7781
7782			[and later]
7783			Mr. Culp also says this (CNET 5/5/00):
7784
7785			This is by-design behavior, not a security vulnerability.
7786
7787			[Phil closes]
7788			Microsoft shouldn't be broken up. It should be shut down.
7789
7790			[See also http://dlis.gseis.ucla.edu/people/pagre/rre.html]
7791			[and http://commons.somewhere.com/rre/2000/RRE.notes.and.recommenda6.html]
7792	root	1.387	%
7793	root	1.1	[Bruce Schneier about the "ILOVEYOU" virus]
7794			Expect even worse in the future. Systems running either Microsoft Office
7795			2000 or Internet Explorer 5.0 can be infected with these sorts of viruses
7796			even if the recipient doesn't open the attachment. That's right; if the
7797			system is running Internet Explorer with the default settings, it is
7798			vulnerable. The problem is caused by a programming bug in an Internet
7799			Explorer ActiveX control. Thank you, Microsoft.
7800	root	1.387	%
7801	root	1.1	>Reaching to Fallingbostel was extremely amusing though, germany is
7802			>splitted into two halfs, one that doesn't know Fallingbostel and one
7803			>that 'heard of this place but have no idea where it is' at some point I
7804			>was almost convinced that there is no such place :)
7805
7806			[Trashey / Quasars]
7807	root	1.387	%
7808	root	1.1	Tom Christiansen writes:
7809			> I'm writing perlrtfm. It explains search techniques, not quickfix
7810			> switches plugging bursting dykes by springing more leaks.
7811
7812			Irony potential in
7813
7814			man perlrtfm
7815
7816			is left to the reader.
7817
7818			Nat
7819	root	1.387	%
7820	root	1.1	Do you plan to release support for on-the-fly file and directory compression
7821			and encryption as in NTFSv2?
7822
7823			(Imagine a system that in order to run needs a diskette or CD-ROM disk with
7824			private key - protection never seen except in movies ;-)
7825	root	1.387	%
7826	root	1.1	[Telekom-Techniker, bei einer ISDN-UK0-Messung!]
7827			Ich: Also, einen Layer-1-Connect bekomme ich...
7828			Telekomiker: Layer-1? Was ist das? Aber ich bekomme ja auch gar kein Freizeichen...
7829	root	1.387	%
7830	root	1.1	"I love the way Microsoft follows standards. In much the
7831			same manner that fish follow migrating caribou."
7832			Paul Tomblin
7833	root	1.387	%
7834	root	1.1	[recently on p5p]
7835			>I am morally
7836			>convinced that map() was written based on grep()
7837
7838			Considering they use the same op function, I'd say that's a distinct
7839			possibility...
7840
7841			Dan
7842	root	1.387	%
7843	root	1.1	[after the "Welle Erdball" performance on the Mekka&Symposium 2000:]
7844	root	1.388	<jan> bine: du solltest da nicht hingucken, das ist nicht gut fürn kopf
7845	root	1.1	<Bordeaux> after listening to this crap, and hearing zugabe zugabe i finally have the proof that all german c64 sceners are gay :)
7846			<Mr> zugabe
7847	root	1.387	%
7848	root	1.1	"Why upon hearing his arguments I changed my opinion 360 degrees."
7849			Recent comment on the floor of some state legislature
7850	root	1.387	%
7851	root	1.1	DIVIDE EMPLOYEE-EARNINGS BY EMPLOYEE-HOURS GIVING EMPLOYEE-PAY-RATE
7852			[cobol, sigh]
7853	root	1.387	%
7854	root	1.1	It is expected that the Multics system will be published when it is
7855			operating substantially and will therefore be available for implementation
7856			on any equipment with suitable characteristics. Such publication is
7857			desirable for two reasons: First, the system should withstand public
7858			scrutiny and criticism volunteered by interested readers; second, in an
7859			age of increasing complexity, it is an obligation to present and future
7860			system designers to make the inner operating system as lucid as possible
7861			so as to reveal the basic system issues.
7862
7863			Corbat_ & Vyssotsky 1965
7864	root	1.387	%
7865	root	1.1	"Rule #7: Silence is not acquiescence.
7866
7867			"Contrary to what you may have heard, silence of those present is
7868			not necessarily consent, even the reluctant variety. They simply
7869			may sit in stunned silence and figure ways of sabotaging the plan
7870			after they regain their composure."
7871
7872			-- Paul Rinaldo
7873			[see also http://people.qualcomm.com/karn/rinaldo.html]
7874	root	1.387	%
7875	root	1.1	On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 12:09:59AM +1000, Chris wrote:
7876			>
7877			> In case you guys havn't noticed...
7878			>
7879			> http://slashdot.org reports that XFS is now released.
7880
7881			Yes, and http://www.freshmeat.net reports:
7882
7883			Error: Unable to connect to MySQL Server ().
7884
7885			;-}
7886
7887			--
7888
7889			ciao -
7890			Stefan
7891
7892	root	1.387	%
7893	root	1.1	> The 'hypervisor' is a new term to me.. Are you refering to the
7894			> Transmeta CPU and it's native mode? If I read you correctly
7895
7896			No its what the S/390 VM is often called. Its a supervisor for supervisor
7897			mode programs so illogically enough its a hypervisor 8). The IBM mainframe
7898			guys thing this kind of set up is routine. Unix is met with
7899			'You mean you cant run a new kernel on test at the same time as the old
7900			one' type remarks.
7901			[Alan Cox]
7902	root	1.387	%
7903	root	1.1	Godwin's Law
7904
7905			As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
7906			involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
7907
7908			[see also http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/]
7909	root	1.387	%
7910	root	1.1	["Stefan im IRC."]
7911
7912			[01:53:07] <coda> anyone know how to get emacs to stop creating the file.name~ files?
7913			[01:53:24] <JanMan> alias emacs=vi
7914			[01:53:31] <coda> haha
7915	root	1.387	%
7916	root	1.1	[remaining problems with OpenBIOS]
7917			Our SDRAM sizing and init code is not very good; we could use good code.
7918			The code we've been offered so far requires memory to work (oops!);
7919			requires a stack (oops!); or assumes a totally configured machine (oops!).
7920	root	1.387	%
7921	root	1.1	[Alan Cox on wether special fs's should have require "//" in their path]
7922			> No :-) It's a feature. Some things are going REAL ugly without such things.
7923
7924			Given //ipc or freebsd, I think I'd pick freebsd. Thats how ugly the idea
7925			is to me ok.
7926	root	1.387	%
7927	root	1.1	"The code is self documenting." -- The Programmer.
7928
7929			"I don't read C." -- The Tech Writer.
7930	root	1.387	%
7931	root	1.1	[Stefan Sebolth, on the CeBIT, while listening to the original c64 "Giana Sisters" tune:]
7932			Haaach, da war die Welt halt noch in Ordnung!
7933	root	1.387	%
7934	root	1.1	Remember, never ask a geek "why";
7935			just nod your head and back away slowly...
7936	root	1.387	%
7937	root	1.1	The thought of implementing something like text and binary modes for
7938			files is a about a frightening for todays kernel developer's as a mouse
7939			to a women in a typical movie of the 50's ;-)
7940
7941			Ralf
7942	root	1.387	%
7943	root	1.1	It may be real, but it's icky. It's too traditional Unix ``I don't
7944			care if we lose 90% of our market base to NT if our competitor loses
7945			95% of THEIR market base!'' to be palatable.
7946
7947			david parsons
7948	root	1.387	%
7949	root	1.1	["some time ago on p5p"]
7950			> ($host) = gethostbyname('localhost');
7951
7952			>Sadly most UNIX boxes don't add a sane alias to their /etc/hosts file
7953			>so that trick is not portable.
7954
7955			% grep localhost /etc/hosts
7956			127.0.0.1 localhost
7957
7958			--tom
7959	root	1.387	%
7960	root	1.1	["some time ago on p5p"]
7961			On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:22:05PM -0700, Tom Christiansen wrote:
7962			> >But given that most slip drivers I have seen for OS/2 do not do this,
7963			> >the question is moot.
7964			>
7965			> I'll send you a free Unix system.
7966
7967			Thanks, the doors in my house are well-balanced. ;-)
7968
7969			Ilya
7970	root	1.387	%
7971	root	1.1	[Elliott H Mitchell on the reiserfs list]
7972			> Me thinks if unwillingness to use tar over dump will stop you from
7973			> using a better filesystem there will be lots of other reasons that
7974			> will stop you from trying anything new too. So it is not really worth
7975			> trying.
7976
7977			Yeah, if a filesystem randomly lost files and the authors had no plans to
7978			fix it, that would kind discourage one from using it...
7979	root	1.387	%
7980	root	1.1	[Russel Coker on the reiserfs list]
7981			... my old Thinkpad 380XD (Pentium-233 with 3.2G ide hard drive) running
7982			ReiserFS and exporting the file system over 10baseT Ethernet could
7983			outperform local hard drives on an AIX machine running JFS.
7984	root	1.387	%
7985	root	1.1	[Peter Mattis, author of GIMP]
7986			I can't say anything about Rasterman because I've never looked at any of
7987			his code. My only comment about Raster is that he should learn to spell.
7988	root	1.387	%
7989	root	1.1	[David Schwartz on linux-kernel]
7990			> ORBS does not do ANYTHING above try to send few LEGAL
7991			> strings to mailservers with LONG delays. So if you block ORBS you deserve
7992			> blocking :-)
7993
7994			That's not the point. The point is that ORBS claims to be a list of
7995			validated open mail relays, and it's not. It's not supposed to be a list of
7996			people who deserve anything in particular. I'm sure if you talk to the
7997			people who have chosen to block ORBS, you will find that they have their
7998			reasons.
7999
8000			DS
8001	root	1.387	%
8002	root	1.1	[WDR, 19991216 Fernsehen mit Manuel]
8003	root	1.388	Es ist ein Fall bekannt, bei dem sich ein Patient über ein Jahr lang
8004	root	1.1	geweigert hatte, auf die Toilette zu gehen. Dann haben seine Verwandten
8005	root	1.388	und Ärzte ihn dazu überreden können, endlich die Toilette aufzusuchen. Er
8006	root	1.1	hat dabei auf einmal 37 Liter entleert.
8007
8008			Danach lebte er noch ganz normal einige Jahre, bis er, wie in Amerika
8009	root	1.388	üblich, erschossen wurde.
8010	root	1.387	%
8011	root	1.1	> - My Maxtor 27G drive ends up in PIO mode (non-SMP system, but likely
8012			[...]
8013			> Last time I reported this, I had a WDC31600, as hda, and the maxtor as
8014			[...]
8015
8016			You committed a mortal sin in ATA............
8017			You never ever mix WD and Maxtor..........on day I will document why.
8018			Basically these two vendors have timings that are completely incompatable
8019			with each other on the same channel.
8020
8021			IMHO, WD is crap..........however, you may split the two pieces of
8022			hardware and they will work fine under linux and all other OS's.
8023
8024			This rule of "never ever mix WD and Maxtor" is OS independent.
8025	root	1.387	%
8026	root	1.1	[ALF2-Benutzerhandbuch]
8027			"Nur eine tote Festplatte ist eine sichere Festplatte."
8028	root	1.387	%
8029	root	1.1	Physicists write FORTRAN in any language.
8030	root	1.387	%
8031	root	1.1	[OpenBOOT 3.10.6 response to pressing "Ctrl-Alt-Del":]
8032			ANY word at all is a candidate.
8033			USE words to see the entire dictionary.
8034			ok
8035	root	1.387	%
8036	root	1.1	[SDF for POD Users]
8037			... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - even Lisp has it's fans. :-)
8038	root	1.387	%
8039	root	1.1	<Xach> schmorp: i haven't been doing any gimpy things lately
8040			<schmorp> xach: well, who is doing gimpy things lately :(
8041			<Xach> schmorp: Mitch
8042			<schmorp> xach: ok.
8043			<Xach> schmorp: you are not keeping pace with the other germans
8044			<Xach> schmorp: you must work more diligently! FOCUS!! DON'T TALK!!
8045			<Xach> burrito, focus
8046			<Burrito> FOCUS you BABOON!
8047	root	1.387	%
8048	root	1.1	[Paul Miller]
8049			... I find Knuth's attitude to be far more logical: "Be careful about
8050			using the following code -- I've only proven that it works, I haven't
8051			tested it." ...
8052	root	1.387	%
8053	root	1.1	Intel Inside -- Idiot Outside!
8054	root	1.387	%
8055	root	1.1	Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
8056
8057			Bart Lateur wrote in message <383a4712.942513@news.skynet.be>...
8058			>Petrus Prawirodidjojo wrote:
8059			>
8060			>>So we must compete with Windows CE.
8061			>
8062			>"Please wait while your Toaster shuts down."
8063			>
8064			>"My microwave oven hangs, I have to reboot."
8065			>
8066			>No thank you. :-) I don't think Microsoft somehow can "automatically" be
8067			>the most obvious choice as a supplier of system software for embedded
8068			>systems.
8069
8070
8071			Quite so. Windows CE is rapidly losing what small market share they once
8072			had.
8073
8074			--
8075			Neal Bridges
8076	root	1.387	%
8077	root	1.1	On 27 Nov 1999, sanjay Kumar wrote:
8078
8079			> Hi folks,
8080			> i got some problem in using linux.When segmentation fault happens four five times continously OS is not working properly,insted of I remove the core dump and core dump bug ,Why?
8081			> please reply to
8082			> sanjay_rect@rediffmail.com
8083			> and sigma_btl@vsnl.com
8084
8085			Parse error.
8086
8087			---
8088			Alex
8089	root	1.387	%
8090	root	1.1	From: Richard Earnshaw <rearnsha@arm.com>
8091
8092			> Why do we really need to support compiling with -ansi when
8093			> including a non-ANSI header file in a C program?
8094
8095			Because some vendors wouldn't recognize a C standard it if hit them. The
8096			amount of code that purports to be ANSI C code, but is in fact nothing of
8097			the sort, has to be seen to be believed.
8098
8099			That doesn't mean that I don't want my program to be clean ANSI C.
8100	root	1.387	%
8101	root	1.1	[one of the few good us movies]
8102	root	1.388	Talk Radio Mediendrama - USA - 1988 - Regie: Oliver Stone * Sein Zynismus wird dem Radiomoderator Barry zum Verhängnis.
8103	root	1.387	%
8104	root	1.1	[guess the language AND the language revision ;)]
8105			ii = 44;
8106			p = &ii;
8107			p = ii/p;
8108			ii++; /* Don't forget to increment ii. */
8109			printf ( "ii = %d\n", *p );
8110	root	1.387	%
8111	root	1.1	> But many systems set the RTC while running Win*ooze. That will affect
8112			> Linux time then.
8113
8114			Here is another microsoft Innovation (TM):
8115
8116			They now allow you to run your BIOS-clock in UTC! (Just like
8117			Linux. Woops. Just gave it away...)
8118
8119			Roger.
8120	root	1.387	%
8121	root	1.1	<Tommer> schmorp, for the next trick, do <frameset> <frame src=dataurl:> <frame src=dataurl:> </frameset> :)
8122	root	1.387	%
8123	root	1.1	auto accident;
8124			register voters;
8125			static electricity;
8126			struct by_lightning;
8127			void *where_prohibited;
8128			char broiled;
8129			short circuit;
8130			short changed;
8131			long johns;
8132			unsigned long letter;
8133			double entendre;
8134			double trouble;
8135			union organizer;
8136			float valve;
8137			short pants;
8138			union station;
8139			void check; unsigned check;
8140			struct dumb by[sizeof member];
8141	root	1.387	%
8142	root	1.1	[I like TV Movie's nexTView comments]
8143			22:40-00:05 (21) ( -34) ARD Mord auf hoher See Inflammable Thriller - USA
8144			- 1995 - Regie: Peter Werner * Stephen King
8145	root	1.388	verhunzt als Regisseur sein Buch im großen Stil.
8146	root	1.387	%
8147	root	1.1	Carmen Lucia Tancredo Borges wrote:
8148
8149			I have a program written in Fortran that runs on an IBM RS/6000
8150			worstation.
8151	root	1.387	%
8152	root	1.1	I wrote
8153			> I hope not. chomp() should match the string in $?, no more or less.
8154			$/
8155
8156			Damn shift key.
8157
8158
8159			Mike Guy
8160	root	1.387	%
8161	root	1.1	[rfc2635]
8162			The term "spam" as it is used to denote mass unsolicited mailings or
8163			netnews postings is derived from a Monty Python sketch set in a
8164			movie/tv studio cafeteria. During that sketch, the word "spam" takes
8165			over each item offered on the menu until the entire dialogue consists
8166			of nothing but "spam spam spam spam spam spam and spam." This so
8167			closely resembles what happens when mass unsolicited mail and posts
8168			take over mailing lists and netnews groups that the term has been
8169			pushed into common usage in the Internet community.
8170	root	1.387	%
8171	root	1.1	[CRYPTO-GRAM, November 15, 1999]
8172
8173			The Doghouse: Microsoft Windows CE
8174
8175			Microsoft encrypts your Windows NT password when stored on a Windows CE
8176			device. But if you look carefully at their encryption algorithm, they
8177			simply XOR the password with "susageP", Pegasus spelled backwards. Pegasus
8178			is the code name of Windows CE. This is so pathetic it's staggering.
8179
8180			http://www.cegadgets.com/artsusageP.htm
8181	root	1.387	%
8182	root	1.1	: Isn't the point that (void)'grep EXPR, LIST' is now better written as
8183			: 'EXPR for LIST'? Or am I misunderstanding your point here?
8184
8185			It really doesn't bother me if people want to use grep or map in a void
8186			context. It didn't bother me before there was a for modifier, and
8187			now that there is one, it still doesn't bother me. I'm just not very
8188			easy to bother.
8189
8190			The argument against using an operator for other than its primary
8191			purpose strikes me the same as the old argument that you shouldn't have
8192			sex for other than procreational purposes. Sometimes side effects
8193			are more enjoyable than the originally intended effect.
8194
8195			That being said, I'd never grep someone in a void context myself.
8196
8197			Larry
8198	root	1.387	%
8199	root	1.1	[that one's only for insiders...]
8200			> : BASE @ . \ = 10, verified original base was restored
8201			Yeah. :-)
8202	root	1.387	%
8203	root	1.1	[comp.lang.forth]
8204			> Old Antactic Explorers Penguin Recipe:
8205			[...]
8206			> Start fire under pot, raise seawater to boiling point.
8207
8208			Since it is very difficult to find wood on Antarctica, typically
8209			penguins are used to light the fire (due to their fat, they burn well).
8210			I also woudln't use any water, the penguins are fried fine in their own
8211			fat (you can use old fat to heat up the pot for another penguin).
8212
8213			Note that most people in Antarctica have been seal-slayers and
8214			whale-killers, so they were rough people. Usually, they didn't bother
8215			with killing the penguins before setting them on fire. I'm glad this
8216			receipts aren't used anymore.
8217	root	1.387	%
8218	root	1.1	Sie muessen einen PC nicht einschalten um herauszufinden ob Windows
8219			installiert ist. Sehen Sie einfach nach, ob die Aufschrift auf der
8220			Reset-Taste noch lesbar ist.
8221	root	1.387	%
8222	root	1.1	> Erinnert mich an den Kerl bei mir in der Videothek. Hab mir DHY ausgeliehen
8223			> und er sagt doch zu mir: "Ist aber mit Untertiteln." Sag ich: "Na prima!"
8224			> Fragt er: "Wieso, was ist denn daran so interessant, wenn man nichts
8225			> versteht?"
8226	root	1.387	%
8227	root	1.1	[de.alt.anime]
8228			Bei meiner Videothek fliegt ein "Ghost in the Shell" Tape
8229			"Ab18" rum. Das machte mich irgendwie stutzig weil auf
8230			der Schachtel meiner 16er zwei Szenenfotos sind, die im
8231	root	1.388	Film gar nicht vorkommen (ironischer Weise direkt über
8232	root	1.1	dem "Uncut & Unzesored" Schildchen). Andererseits ist
8233	root	1.388	mir völlig schleierhaft, was es bei dem Filmchen zu zensieren
8234	root	1.1	geben soll. Nur die oben beschriebene Feststellung hat diese
8235			Frage erneut aufgeworfen.
8236			ji!
8237	root	1.387	%
8238	root	1.1	I do worry about syntactic clutter, ever since my daughter came
8239			in, looked over my shoulder, and said, "What is that, swearing?"
8240			[Larry Wall]
8241	root	1.387	%
8242	root	1.1	Der letzte untergegangene altisraelitische Stamm war der der
8243			Altpreussen.
8244			- Norbert Marzahn am 15.8.98 in
8245			de.soc.politik.deutschland
8246	root	1.387	%
8247	root	1.1	> > Aber die Theorien, die Norbert aufstellt, ueber zum Beispiel die
8248			> > gegossenen Steinformen, die sich hochdruecken, den fuerchterlichen
8249			> > Kometen, der im vergangenen August die Erde zerstoert hat und solche
8250			> > Sachen find ich wirklich Klasse ;-)
8251			>
8252	root	1.388	> Jau. Und erstmal seine Erklärungsversuche, wenn's mal wieder nichts
8253			> geworden ist (wo bleibt eigentlich der Planet X, der während der
8254	root	1.1	> Syonnenfinsternis auftauchen sollte?)...
8255
8256	root	1.388	Drei Tage Dunkelheit und viele Trümmerteile sollte er bringen, gell,
8257	root	1.1	Norbert?
8258	root	1.387	%
8259	root	1.208	Marzahnismen: http://www.bruhaha.de/normarz.html
8260	root	1.1	Norbert Marzahn sagt: Ich besitze die Mittel, um
8261			"Rechts"- und "Links"-Radikalismus auszuloeschen.
8262	root	1.387	%
8263	root	1.1	http://welcome.to/levitenbuero/
8264	root	1.387	%
8265	root	1.1	<Xach> babelfish.pitney.org: "We may not get it right, but boy are we fast!"
8266	root	1.387	%
8267	root	1.1	Subject: GNU compiler
8268			From: "Steve"
8269			Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:05:03 -0400
8270			To: <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
8271			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0
8272
8273			[the following was a single line, of course]
8274			I downloaded the compiler and am trying to install it and the
8275			instructions seem to be very complicated. Can you help me understand
8276			how to install them? There is no setup file and I have downloaded from
8277			several sites in the thought that I might have the wrong version. Your
8278			assistance would be greatly appreciated
8279
8280			Thanks,
8281
8282			Steve
8283	root	1.387	%
8284	root	1.1	[an "I am doing high end graphic design" type of person:]
8285			> Also, could someone tell me how to calculate DPI of an image? I have not
8286			> managed to figure this DPI system out, for example, if an image is a
8287			> 100?50 pixels, what's the DPI??
8288	root	1.387	%
8289	root	1.1	<tigert> xachbot, op
8290			<XachBot> tigert: I have an 88 magnum. It shoots through schools.
8291			<tigert> ahem
8292	root	1.387	%
8293	root	1.1	<tc> xachbot, acro FOOBAR
8294			-XachBot:#gimp- FOOBAR: FTP Operation Over Big Address Records \| See FUBAR [Net jargon] (cached)
8295			<tc> just when you thought you had something to baffle xachbot
8296	root	1.387	%
8297	root	1.1	[the release of perl 5.000]
8298			Date: Mon, 17 Oct 94 16:48:04 -0700
8299			From: Larry Wall <lwall@scalpel.netlabs.com>
8300			Subject: It's soup.
8301
8302			Okay, it's there.
8303
8304			ftp://ftp.netlabs.com/pub/outgoing/perl5.0/perl5.000.tar.gz
8305
8306			The first one who tells me about a bug in it gets shot.
8307
8308			Larry
8309	root	1.387	%
8310	root	1.1	l33+ h4X0rz
8311	root	1.387	%
8312	root	1.1	# A random text generator using Markov chains
8313			perl -e 'while(<>){$f.= $_}@l=split(/\s+/, $f);for($i=0;$i<@l-1;$i++){$W{$l[$i]
8314			}.=" ".$l[$i+1];}sub a{$w=$l[1]}&a;sub b{print "\n"}while($w){if(!($W{$w})){&b;
8315			&b;&a;last if ($q++>3);}print"$w ";@p=split(/ /,$W{$w});$c=@p;until($s=int(rand
8316			($c))){1}$w=$p[$s]}&b' big_text_file
8317	root	1.387	%
8318	root	1.1	> && d'oh! i knew that! can she allow her lusers to use deja? here is the url
8319			> && for the post with the whole description of how i used -P
8320			>
8321			> Well, access to deja isn't forbidden, but access to the keyboard is.
8322			> And there's no mouse.
8323			>
8324			> Abigail
8325
8326			Wow. Someone else who reads usenet by osmosis... cool.
8327
8328			Matt.
8329	root	1.387	%
8330	root	1.1	Ok, our threads aren't so bad. Python's have one big
8331			giant global interpreter lock. :-)
8332
8333			- --tom
8334	root	1.387	%
8335	root	1.1	From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
8336			Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:42:19 -0700 (PDT)
8337
8338			On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Hubert Mantel wrote:
8339			>
8340			> So the huge ISDN update in proposed-2.2.11 will be removed from the final
8341			> 2.2.11 release?
8342
8343			[ Irritated mode: FULL BLAST ]
8344
8345			Are you being stupid on purpose, or were you born that way?
8346
8347			Go back and read the thread. Read why I'm irritated. READ. THINK.
8348	root	1.387	%
8349	root	1.1	Understanding is a three edged sword. Do you want to get the point?
8350	root	1.387	%
8351	root	1.1	["MVS uses quite heavy algorithms for swapping"]
8352			On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 07:55:32PM +0200, Lieven Marchand wrote:
8353			> Last time I looked at it, it got to the point they had moved some
8354			> ASSISTs into microcode. IIRC, some manipulations of the process
8355			> block. I doubt Intel/Sun/MIPS/IBM is going to accomodate Linux quite
8356			> that much ;-)
8357
8358			IBM is really really good on process technology. They have had to be.
8359	root	1.387	%
8360	root	1.1	MVS spends a lot of time running OS algorithms to allow full
8361			preemption that Linux wastes on running user applications.
8362	root	1.387	%
8363	root	1.1	[comments on the gcc-2.95 release]
8364			<QUOTE>
8365			I'm having problems compiling it for HP-UX 10.20. Any ideas?
8366
8367			(I haven't actually finished downloading it yet, but I just know I'm
8368			gonna have problems with this crappy OS ;-)
8369			</QUOTE>
8370	root	1.387	%
8371	root	1.1	The Internet interprets Windows as damage,
8372			and routes around it.
8373
8374			Roger Larsson
8375	root	1.388	Skellefteå
8376	root	1.387	%
8377	root	1.1	[configuring gcc]
8378			Noone should use --prefix=/usr without --with-local-prefix=/usr/local
8379	root	1.387	%
8380	root	1.1	'You can solve any programming problem with another level of indirection,
8381			except the problem of too many levels of indirection.'
8382	root	1.387	%
8383	root	1.1	[http://www.itknowledge.com/tpj/issues/vol4_1/tpj0401-0015.html]
8384
8385			Z-code interpreters have also been written in Java; unfortunately, when it
8386			comes to cross-platform compatibility, Java's user-interface classes are
8387			finicky and unstable--just ask anyone who's tried to reason with the AWT
8388			on different JVMs.
8389
8390			[and later]
8391
8392			Pilfer is a practical implementation of two of the cardinal rules of
8393			adventure gaming:
8394
8395			1.Anything that is not nailed down is mine.
8396			2.Anything that I can pry loose is not nailed down.
8397	root	1.387	%
8398	root	1.1	[the \|\|-operator can be thought of as "or", && can be thought of as
8399			"and", but how would you call the ??-operator?]
8400
8401			>>>>> "NK" == Nathan Kurz <nate@valleytel.net> writes:
8402
8403			NK> ?? -> huh?
8404
8405			That's a great name. The huh? operator.
8406
8407			<chaim>
8408	root	1.387	%
8409	root	1.1	`One of the reasons we continue to use Fortran is that it's easier to fix
8410			code written without attention to such details in Fortran than in other
8411			languages. To put it another way, Fortran is the only language where
8412			people who barely get by with their numerical skills can "write useful
8413			numerical code." Many times those people are the only experts in their
8414			specialty available to put a needed procedure into practice.'
8415	root	1.387	%
8416	root	1.1	[Moderator der Sending "Teatime" auf "Radio Okerwelle", 1999-07-12]
8417	root	1.388	Ich muß schließlich hören was ich sage, damit ich weiß, was ich denke.
8418	root	1.387	%
8419	root	1.1	[Dr. Dobbs #8, 1999, describing how you can AVOID downloading or executing
8420			Java applets, scripts and ActiveX controls while _parsing_(!) an html
8421			page]
8422			... you must utilize IOleControl::OnAmbientPropertyChange with the
8423			value DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Before you can do this, however, you
8424			must call IOleObject::SetClientSite so that IOleControl will work
8425			properly. This is the reason you derive from IOleClientSite, even
8426			though you don't extend its functionality in any way. After the call to
8427			OnAmbientPropertyChange, IE4 will call your Invoke method to check the
8428			value of DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Invoke simply sets the correct bits to
8429			disable the behaviour you don't want and returns NOERROR.
8430			[Still interested in knowing how you can disable the "file not found"
8431			dialog box that will pop up when you try to parse a non-accessible file?]
8432	root	1.387	%
8433	root	1.1	[Linus, whom I quote rarely ;-]
8434			Message passing as the fundamental operation of the OS is just an
8435			excercise in computer science masturbation. It may feel good, but you
8436			don't actually get anything DONE.
8437	root	1.387	%
8438	root	1.1	Advantages of Windows NT over Linux:
8439			* It's easier to explain the crash was not your fault.
8440			* You've to remember only one solution all to your problems: Reboot.
8441			* You can use your mouse to type an email-message.
8442	root	1.387	%
8443	root	1.1	> 1) On the PIII, there is the capability to get a system unique serial
8444			> number from the CPU. Does Linux read this data already? Is there plans to
8445			> read the serial number and then disable the capability (maybe so you could
8446			> get the serial number from the OS)?
8447
8448			Current Linux disables it and doesn't save the value.
8449	root	1.387	%
8450	root	1.1	[CRYPTO-GRAM 1999-06-15]
8451			"Microsoft set the security state-of-the-art back 25 years with DOS, and
8452			they have continued that legacy to this day."
8453	root	1.387	%
8454	root	1.1	[From "The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature", by Thomas Scoville]
8455			"In a world increasingly dominated by image culture (TV, movies, .jpg
8456			files), UNIX remains rooted in the culture of the word."
8457	root	1.387	%
8458	root	1.1	> If it is clearly documented that will not happen.
8459
8460			Yeah, sure. Unfortunately, if the "correct" treatment of this feature
8461			means to change a dozen source files (and rth's comments make me fear
8462			that that's the case), the chance that someone, somewhere forgets to say
8463			exactly why these changes were necessary (and on what other changes in
8464			other files they depend) is far larger than I want to consider. We've
8465			seen this before. Lucky we are that some long time gcc-hackers are
8466			still among us, who might remark: Oh yes, that's undefined by the C
8467			Standard, but it happens to be an extension gcc supports ... Seen that,
8468			got the T-shirt.
8469	root	1.387	%
8470	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8471			From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
8472			Date: Fri, 4 Jun 99 10:00:16 PDT
8473			To: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
8474			Cc: craig@jcb-sc.com, jbuck@Synopsys.COM, mark@codesourcery.com,
8475			davem@redhat.com, chip@perlsupport.com, egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
8476			X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
8477
8478			Linus writes, to Craig:
8479
8480			> I haven't maintained a compiler long-term. I _have_ maintained a larger,
8481			> and arguably mode complex system with many more degrees of freedom and
8482			> thus choices than gcc.
8483
8484			No, gcc is substantially larger than the Linux kernel (on the order of 10x
8485			larger, as anyone can easily verify). gcc does not need to deal with race
8486			conditions, so in that sense it is simpler, but in other respects it is
8487			far more complex than the kernel.
8488
8489			[NOTE for the reader: this is not really true, as the device drivers
8490			bomb the comparison away, but the complexity argument still holds]
8491
8492			[ personal insults deleted, perhaps the author is in need of a vacation ]
8493	root	1.387	%
8494	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8495			From: craig@jcb-sc.com
8496			To: torvalds@transmeta.com
8497
8498			>I want the _user_ to be able to give input.
8499			[...]
8500			>I happen to think that the "explicit cast invalidates the alias
8501			>information" rule is the simplest and best one, and gives the user the
8502			>best control without adding things like new attributes or other ways to
8503			>let the user be in control.
8504
8505			In other words, you believe you are a better language designer than
8506			the ISO C people as well as the gcc maintainers, despite the fact
8507			that you know, what, nothing about language design, and nothing
8508			about compiler design and, especially, long-term maintenance of
8509			compilers?
8510	root	1.387	%
8511	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8512			From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
8513
8514			Linus writes:
8515			> Oh, you don't expect me to complain about bad code generation when I know
8516			> gcc could do better?
8517
8518			Oh, don't worry, we expect you to complain, and in a rude and insulting
8519			matter at that. We're used to it. It seems that you were a nicer guy
8520			before you had so many worshippers.
8521	root	1.387	%
8522	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8523			From: Branko Cibej <branko.cibej@hermes.si>
8524			Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:07:09 +0200
8525			To: egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
8526			X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I)
8527
8528			Linus Torvalds wrote:
8529
8530			> I think it's a damn shame that instead of technical arguments _everything_
8531			> revolves around people reading the standard as if it was the bible, and
8532			> trying to make people feel guilty for not really caring. It's not a sin to
8533			> just want to get good code without having to do magic contortions, guys.
8534
8535			Why, Linus, it's trivial to do! Use MSVC instead of egcs, then you can do
8536
8537			#pragma optimize("a", on/off)
8538
8539			around every single statement, if you like. It even supports anonymous unions
8540			_and_ structs, and is only slightly influenced by the ISO C standard.
8541
8542			They'll even sell you a version that can generate code for the alpha!
8543
8544			>:->
8545
8546			Brane
8547
8548
8549			P.S.: Just for the record: I, a "real user" and (imnsho) a "clever programmer"
8550			who "know what I'm doing", at least most of the time, and who do not "read the
8551			standard as if it were a bible", vote for having a standard-conforming
8552			compiler that's not bloated by a ton of marginally useful (or even useless)
8553			features. If I want featuritis, I know where I can get it.
8554
8555
8556			P.P.S: They can't even spell "optimise" ...
8557	root	1.387	%
8558	root	1.1	You can have it Soon, Cheap, and Working; choose two
8559	root	1.387	%
8560	root	1.1	"Scientific" studies have found that a 2.2.x Linux router with
8561			fast-switching enabled, using Tulip 100baseT cards, can melt a
8562			high-end Cisco's 100baseT interfaces.
8563	root	1.387	%
8564	root	1.1	1) Thread switching is faster than process switching by a little bit on Linux
8565			2) Process switching on linux is faster than thread switching on NT
8566			3) Almost anything is faster than process switching on NT
8567	root	1.387	%
8568	root	1.1	[gimp-developers, on the use of keyboard modifiers for drawing tools]
8569
8570			> Simple. Powerful. Fast. Choose at most two.
8571
8572			Perhaps this should be an option in the preferences dialog? :)
8573	root	1.387	%
8574	root	1.1	[perl is cryptic??]
8575			Subject: @{$${->{{{{~{}~{{{NO CARRIER
8576			From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@iki.fi>
8577			Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:55:37 +0300 (EET DST)
8578
8579			We have still a long way to go-- from the zsh-workers mailing list:
8580
8581			: Just thought of a trivial way to take a lot of grief out of parameter
8582			: substitution. This patch makes the following valid:
8583			:
8584			: ${${${${(f)"$(typeset)"}:#local \=}%%\=}##* }
8585			:
8586			: replacing the equivalent but grotesquer
8587			:
8588			: "${(@)${(@)${(@)${(@f)$(typeset)}:#local \=}%%\=}##* }"
8589	root	1.387	%
8590	root	1.1	Long noun chains don't automatically imply security. - Bruce Schneier
8591	root	1.387	%
8592	root	1.1	> \|> Spoken as a true C programmer. However you are wrong. Case-preserving, but
8593			> \|> insensitive, is the CORRECT way for file systems. Capitalization should not
8594			> \|> matter for interpretation of a file name just as it doesn't matter for
8595			> \|> interpreting words in any human language.
8596			>
8597			> This is wrong. In German, there is a big difference between "paar" und
8598			> "Paar" (the first meaning "a few", the second "pair").
8599
8600			The classic example:
8601
8602			"Ich habe liebe Genossen in Moskau" - I've got dead comreds in Moscow.
8603			"Ich habe Liebe genossen in Moskau" - I enjoyed love in Moscow.
8604	root	1.387	%
8605	root	1.1	[do we need oo-style IO::File class in perl?]
8606			>_You_ aren't gonna code "use IO::File".
8607
8608			And there's no reason for anyone else to, either, especially
8609			once Nick finishes the Larry-blessed autovivification of
8610			lvaluabled undefs in open(), socket(), etc.
8611
8612			What's next, a String class for Perl?
8613
8614			--tom
8615	root	1.387	%
8616	root	1.1	[some example of the kind of mail I sometimes receive:]
8617			i was just trying to help u out not hurt you in anyway ok i have the fbi
8618			working on something for me
8619			u havent done anything to me ok and the sherriffs department came by to talk
8620			to me nutting concerning y ok
8621			piece
8622			russ
8623	root	1.387	%
8624	root	1.1	[From "Basic Information about Unix", common commands:]
8625
8626			pico (text editor for beginners)
8627			vi (text editor for advanced users)
8628			emacs (text editor for advanced users)
8629			ed (text editor for beginners)
8630	root	1.387	%
8631	root	1.1	There is no reason in principle that a Perl script shouldn't start with
8632
8633			use Python;
8634
8635			and appear to work exactly like Python from there to the end of the file.
8636			Except maybe faster. :-)
8637
8638			Larry
8639	root	1.387	%
8640	root	1.1	> Perl6 gives us an opportunity to re-examine every feature at a microscopic level.
8641
8642			just what I'm afraid of... I thought this was to be Perl6, not Perl
8643			2010.
8644
8645			(Perl 2010: The Spaced Oddity?)
8646	root	1.387	%
8647	root	1.1	The X.25 specification is not a particularly easy document to
8648			read. Contrary to expectations, it does not make great use of diagrams
8649			and tables that help to explain the workings of the protocols that
8650			it contains. Instead the document makes use of many ambiguous English
8651			descriptions of the actions that should take place, allied with a complete
8652			lack of fluency in its prose descriptions, make for a very confusing
8653			document. It is a wonder that any correct X.25 implementations have ever
8654			been created.
8655	root	1.387	%
8656	root	1.1	> Joe: (walking into McDonalds) Hi, I'd like a Big Mac.
8657			>
8658			> Cashier: Okay, here's your Big Mac and here's your Coke. That'll be
8659			> $3.99.
8660			>
8661			> Joe: Uh, I don't want a Coke.
8662			>
8663			> Cashier: Sorry, they're bundled.
8664			>
8665			> Joe: What? I'm not paying for a Coke!
8666			>
8667			> Cashier: You don't; the Coke is free.
8668			>
8669			> Joe: But wasn't a Big Mac $2.49 last week?
8670			>
8671			> Cashier: Sure, but this latest Big Mac is far more innovative. It's
8672			> got integrated Coke!
8673			>
8674			> Joe: I already bought a Snapple across the street... I'm not going
8675			> to drink the Coke.
8676			>
8677			> Cashier: Then you can't have the burger.
8678			>
8679			> Joe: Okay, fine, I will pay the $3.99 and throw the Coke away.
8680			>
8681			> Cashier: Oh, you can't do that. They're seamlessly integrated. Totally
8682			> inseparable.
8683			>
8684			> Joe: How can that be? They're two totally separate things!
8685			>
8686			> Cashier: No, watch. (takes Big Mac, dunks it in a tank of Coke) See?
8687			>
8688			> Joe: Why did you just do that?!
8689			>
8690			> Cashier: It's a benefit to the consumer. Otherwise you'd end up with
8691			> two different, inconsistent tastes. This way you're assured of a
8692			> continuous taste across all your foods.
8693	root	1.387	%
8694	root	1.1	Threads are like salt. I like salt, you like salt, we all
8695			like salt, but we eat more pasta than salt.
8696	root	1.40	Rob Pike
8697	root	1.387	%
8698	root	1.1	From: Nathan Torkington <gnat@frii.com>
8699
8700			Don't be bitten by Perl, get crushed by Python.
8701			Python: Perl for the punctuation-phobic.
8702			It takes 4 days for a python to digest a hamster, but only 2 days
8703			for you to digest this book.
8704			Python: it's really better but nobody uses it.
8705			Python: just for the whitespace of it.
8706			Join The Trickle
8707			Python: more popular than Dylan!
8708			Python: not written by crackheads in a gutter!
8709			Are you uptight? Try our new Python Hangups series.
8710	root	1.387	%
8711	root	1.1	Well Microsoft announced this new language called COOL which I can
8712			honestly say that I have seen NO CRAPPY CODE written in. OTOH it appears
8713			that to achieve this miraculous status by the simple technique of being
8714			complete and utter vapourware.
8715
8716			Microsoft, taking the Business out of COBOL.
8717	root	1.387	%
8718	root	1.1	[From "Programming Perl"]
8719
8720			We will encourage you to develop the three great virtues of a
8721			programmer: laziness, impatience and hubris
8722	root	1.387	%
8723	root	1.1	[Alexander Stepanov, creator of the STL]:
8724
8725			Yes. STL is not object oriented. I think that object orientedness is
8726			almost as much of a hoax as Artificial Intelligence. I have yet to
8727			see an interesting piece of code that comes from these OO people. In
8728			a sense, I am unfair to AI: I learned a lot of stuff from the MIT AI
8729			Lab crowd, they have done some really fundamental work: Bill Gosper's
8730			Hakmem is one of the best things for a programmer to read. AI might
8731			not have had a serious foundation, but it produced Gosper and Stallman
8732			(Emacs), Moses (Macsyma) and Sussman (Scheme, together with Guy Steele). I
8733			find OOP technically unsound. It attempts to decompose the world in
8734			terms of interfaces that vary on a single type. To deal with the real
8735			problems you need multisorted algebras - families of interfaces that
8736			span multiple types. I find OOP philosophically unsound. It claims that
8737			everything is an object. Even if it is true it is not very interesting -
8738			saying that everything is an object is saying nothing at all. I find OOP
8739			methodologically wrong. It starts with classes. It is as if mathematicians
8740			would start with axioms. You do not start with axioms - you start with
8741			proofs. Only when you have found a bunch of related proofs, can you
8742			come up with axioms. You end with axioms. The same thing is true in
8743			programming: you have to start with interesting algorithms. Only when you
8744			understand them well, can you come up with an interface that will let them
8745			work.
8746			[...]
8747			You can't write a generic max() in Java that takes two arguments of some
8748			type and has a return value of that same type. Inheritance and interfaces
8749			don't help. And if they cannot implement max or swap or linear search,
8750			what chances do they have to implement really complex stuff? These are my
8751			litmus tests: if a language allows me to implement max and swap and linear
8752			search generically - then it has some potential.
8753			[...] Java is clearly an example of a money oriented programming (MOP).
8754			It might be successful - after all, MS DOS was - and it might be a
8755			profitable thing for all your readers to learn Java, but it has no
8756			intellectual value whatsoever.
8757
8758			[Later, on OMG protocols like CORBA]
8759			I am old enough to remember all the networking standards that were coming
8760			out in the seventies. Who remembers them now?
8761	root	1.387	%
8762	root	1.1	[Stiftung Warentest "test", WDR 19990419:]
8763	root	1.388	"Schlechtes muß nicht billig sein..."
8764	root	1.387	%
8765	root	1.1	[/bin/false on solaris]
8766			#!/usr/bin/sh
8767			# Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
8768			# All Rights Reserved
8769
8770			# THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
8771			# The copyright notice above does not evidence any
8772			# actual or intended publication of such source code.
8773
8774			#ident "@(#)false.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.3 */
8775			[obvious invocation of exit snipped to avoid lawsuit. Yup, 1 line.]
8776	root	1.387	%
8777	root	1.1	<Aspirin> but ee uses imlib, and imlib is documented to take 4.7 days to start up on a 486 by Alan Cox.
8778	root	1.387	%
8779	root	1.1	When a tar built for SunOS runs under Solaris, it's incapable of opening
8780			or creating files with "lib/locale" in the path. It replaces that part of
8781			the path with "lib/oldlocale".
8782	root	1.387	%
8783	root	1.1	[Bruce Schneier in CRYPTO-GRAM, 19990315]
8784
8785			"Microsoft prefers to treat security holes as a public relations problem,
8786			rather than fixing the actual problem."
8787
8788			[further down: the official answer from Microsoft about a problem where
8789			just viewing a website would invisibly run unrestricted code on your
8790			machine]
8791
8792			"Microsoft appreciates your input regarding this issue, however in lieu
8793			of modern technology being what it is, we all need to be personally
8794			responsible for knowing what we are downloading off the internet."
8795
8796			[see http://www.panix.com/~dfoster/sec/chrono.html]
8797	root	1.387	%
8798	root	1.1	[Steve Funston wrote to me, after I unsubscribed him from gimp-perl for
8799			spamming:]
8800
8801			>fuck you ass hole duh you are just a big fucker
8802			>>
8803			>>An error was generated by your request to our servers:
8804			>>------------------------------------------------------
8805			>>
8806			>>Your Email: bfunston@mich.com
8807			>>
8808			>>ERROR: You are not a member of this list.
8809
8810			[and later, misquoting my name:]
8811			>mark is not only a big fat liar but he is an ass hole.
8812	root	1.387	%
8813	root	1.1	[How much of the microsoft shares does Bill Gates hold?]
8814			He has 19.8%. Paul Allen has 5.5%. Steve Ballmer has 4.7%.
8815	root	1.387	%
8816	root	1.1	> And what's wrong with being named Peter?
8817			If linus was peter, Linux would be called penix? (just guessing) ;)
8818	root	1.387	%
8819	root	1.1	According to Microsoft KnowledgeBase article Q216641, Microsoft Windows
8820			95/98 are limited to an uptime of exactly 49.7 days.
8821
8822			--found by Vincent Janelle (Random)
8823	root	1.387	%
8824	root	1.1	> Leave that to RMS.
8825
8826			If you had just sat through the horrific panel with Larry,
8827			RMS, Richard, and Linus, you would want to leave a whole lot
8828			else to RMS -- like a couple of megatons of the manure that
8829			he's full of.
8830
8831			Support BSD/Linux.
8832
8833			--tom
8834	root	1.387	%
8835	root	1.1	"The FSF is a cult -- don't support them." --Rob Pike
8836	root	1.387	%
8837	root	1.1	We are Linux. Resistance is an indication that you missed the point.
8838	root	1.387	%
8839	root	1.1	> Perhaps the cracker himself (itself? ;) isn't bright enough to delete shell
8840			> history, but his shrink-wrapped cracking tools might be a lot brighter...
8841
8842			Some of them are. A surprising number aren't. A personal favorite of
8843			mine was the log from a cracker who couldn't figure out how to untar
8844			and install the trojan package he'd ftped onto the machine. he tried a
8845			few times, and then eventually gave up and logged out.
8846	root	1.387	%
8847	root	1.1	[on channel #gimp]
8848
8849			[msg(Xachbot)] insult me
8850			[XachBot(xachbot@home.xach.com)] schmorp: David Miller would never approve of that.
8851	root	1.387	%
8852	root	1.1	[the creation]
8853			http://www.toodarkpark.org/caffeine-cgi-bin/textfile/net-hx.txt
8854	root	1.387	%
8855	root	1.1	THE LESSER-KNOWN PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES #12: LITHP
8856
8857			This otherwise unremarkable language is distinguished by the absence of
8858			an "S" in its character set; users must substitute "TH". LITHP is said
8859			to be useful in protheththing lithtth.
8860	root	1.387	%
8861	root	1.1	Ich zog hier nur einen Pseudoschluss aus dieser sache, den ich nicht
8862			selbst schliesse.
8863			Norbert Harry Marzahn, selbsternannter "Judaaer"
8864			am 13.12.98 in de.alt.ufo
8865	root	1.387	%
8866	root	1.1	According to Gurusamy Sarathy:
8867			> "Resistance is futile, you will be modularized."
8868
8869			No:
8870
8871			use Borg;
8872			make_threat(-type => 'standard', -doom => 'modularized');
8873
8874			--
8875			Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
8876	root	1.387	%
8877	root	1.1	"And over here, ladies and gentlemen, may I draw your attention to
8878			the 'posicks box', a mechanism within one of the late 20th century
8879			sub-I hardware gestalt integration agents (then called 'operating
8880			systems', this particular one being referred to as 'windows' by
8881			its commercial-mimetic sustainer), designed so as to provide the
8882			appearance and functionality required to comply with one of the few
8883			agreed-upon integration schemas (sub-I, of course) available at the
8884			time. Unsurprising given the non-integration imperitives used by the
8885			agent's sustainter, this mechanism was demonstrated to be an ingenious
8886			non-integration ploy that, while supporting the integration schema,
8887			failed to support the local interconnect schemas that this agent
8888			specialized in. This produced a classic focus rift in the knowledge
8889			pool, benefiting the sustainer in the short run due to the focus
8890			concentration facilities available to commericial-class mimetic
8891			sustainers. Practically, this wasn't a significant loss, in the long
8892			run, as neither the 'windows' or 'posicks' schemas were relevant to
8893			modern quasi-I agents. These two do live on, however, in a few niches.
8894			'posicks' is used as the integration schema between most nano-scale
8895			logic units (a fact that only a few meta-experts still need to be
8896			aware of), and 'windows' survives, for religious-mimetic reasons, as
8897			the human-communication agent in a few stereotypical toasters and soap
8898			dispensers."
8899
8900			[Kenneth Albanowski]
8901	root	1.387	%
8902	root	1.1	Perl ist ein Schmerzmittel.
8903			Wenn Du bei der Speicherverwaltung oder der Stringverarbeitung
8904			unter C Schmerzen hast, nimm Perl.
8905			-- Kristian Koehntopp
8906	root	1.387	%
8907	root	1.1	> Why Windows NT Server 4.0 continues to exist in the enterprise would be a
8908			> topic appropriate for an investigative report in the field of psychology or
8909			> marketing, not an article on information technology -- John Kirch
8910	root	1.387	%
8911	root	1.388	[bei einer mündlichen Nachprüfung in BWL, Uni Hamburg]
8912	root	1.1
8913			Prof: "Was ist Agio?"
8914	root	1.388	Student: "Weiß ich nicht."
8915	root	1.1	Prof: "OK, durchgefallen!
8916	root	1.388	Student: "Ich habe aber Anspruch auf drei Fragen in der mündlichen Prüfung!"
8917	root	1.1	Prof: "Klar, was ist Disagio?"
8918			Student: "..."
8919			Prof: "...und was ist der Unterschied zwischen Agio und Disagio?"
8920			Student: "..."
8921			Prof: "...durchgefallen!"
8922	root	1.387	%
8923	root	1.1	Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@pobox.com> writes:
8924
8925			> Just morbid curiosity,
8926			>
8927			> Are there _any_ unix boxes that _can't_ build Perl?
8928
8929			Yes. Broken ones.
8930
8931			dgris
8932	root	1.387	%
8933	root	1.1	"The kerastion is a musical instrument which cannot be heard."
8934			-- A Borges story in ten words.
8935	root	1.387	%
8936	root	1.1	"C combines the power of assembly language
8937			with the flexibility of assembly language."
8938	root	1.387	%
8939	root	1.1	...
8940
8941			<AOL>
8942
8943			Me too!
8944
8945			</AOL>
8946
8947			Tig
8948	root	1.387	%
8949	root	1.1	ping -p 2b2b2b415448300d <hostname>
8950	root	1.387	%
8951	root	1.1	unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck;more;yes;umount;sleep
8952	root	1.387	%
8953	root	1.1	From: Dick Balaska <dick@buckosoft.com>
8954
8955			I sit behind an NT dual P2/400 256MB for too many hours each day. It is
8956			"slow". One of my (fun) tasks is CD mastering. When i'm loading a 500MB
8957			wav file into the editor, the machine goes useless for two minutes while
8958			loading the wave file. Basically its just reading the file and writing it
8959			to swap. The CPU is at 5%. No Alt-Tab between apps during that time. No
8960			chance of putting the mouse over a button (too many dropped ticks). The
8961			NT kernel is just sitting waiting for I/O completions.
8962
8963			Linux would be embarrassed to be that bad.
8964
8965			I expected M$ to never fix this because its not "broken". However, i
8966			expect billg to start reading the above mentioned literal benchmarks and
8967			get really really pissed.
8968
8969			Especially since i believe 1999 and 2000 to see Linux really start
8970			to cut into M$'s server market share.
8971	root	1.387	%
8972	root	1.1	> Hello I'm wondering if there's a lower traffic mailing list that exists
8973			> that's strictly important kernel announcements and not general chat. I
8974			> need to stay informed but I can't handle 250 messages in a 24 hour
8975			> period.
8976			>
8977			> Sorry for the insignificant post..
8978			> Nic
8979			>
8980
8981			Thank you for contributing to the problem.
8982
8983			-hpa
8984	root	1.387	%
8985	root	1.1	grep... grep... grep... (frog with unix stuck in his throat)
8986	root	1.387	%
8987	root	1.1	"If users are made to understand that the system administrator's job is to
8988			make computers run, and not to make them happy, they can, in fact, be made
8989			happy most of the time. If users are allowed to believe that the system
8990			administrator's job is to make them happy, they can, in fact, never be made
8991			happy."
8992			- - -Paul Evans (as quoted by Barb Dijker in "Managing Support Staff", LISA '97)
8993	root	1.387	%
8994	root	1.1	From: "Daniel P. Stasinski" <dannys@KAREMOR.COM>
8995			Subject: Microsoft Hotmail
8996			To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG
8997
8998			I contacted Microsoft/Hotmail asking them to close the account
8999			of that was listed in the backdoored tcp wrapper source code.
9000			I also forwarded the offending code.
9001
9002			The word back from them is that they will not close it. Theft
9003			of passwords and hacking does not violate thier terms of
9004			service.
9005
9006			Daniel
9007	root	1.387	%
9008	root	1.1	Any UNIX-killer must also have:
9009			...
9010			* cool name like Linux (serious, these fail: GNU Hurd FreeBSD 386BSD)
9011	root	1.387	%
9012	root	1.1	"Not all things worth doing are worth doing well."
9013			It's a phrase I use a lot. :-)
9014			[RJL]
9015	root	1.387	%
9016	root	1.1	As John Whittaker says: ``It's UNIX. That doesn't necessarily mean it's
9017			right.''
9018	root	1.387	%
9019	root	1.1	[Richard Stallman on the new _Pragma operator in C9X:]
9020
9021			Amazing--they actually listened.
9022	root	1.387	%
9023	root	1.1	That "UNIX" term is very negative. People often associate it with
9024			SCO OpenServer, Wyse terminals, and 60 people on a 386. The UNIX
9025			that people know is just awful. It looks something like this:
9026
9027			# less foo
9028			sh: command not found
9029			# more foo
9030			sh: command not found
9031			# emacs foo
9032			sh: command not found
9033			# ed foo
9034			0
9035			help
9036			?
9037			quit
9038			?
9039			exit
9040			?
9041			DIE!!!!!!!!!!
9042			?
9043
9044			[Albert D. Cahalan]
9045	root	1.387	%
9046	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Stop blib warning in future releases?
9047			From: andreas.koenig@anima.de (Andreas J. Koenig)
9048			Date: 05 Jan 1999 03:15:37 +0100
9049
9050			tim> Sure. Strictly speaking
9051
9052			tim> use blib ':quiet';
9053
9054			tim> would be most correct in style.
9055
9056			Only German native speakers are allowed to treat adverbs adjectively.
9057			For the rest I'd recommend [...]
9058	root	1.387	%
9059	root	1.1	[A new U.S. Law implementing a WIPO treaty]
9060			No person shall circumvent a technological protection measure that
9061			effectively controls access to a work protected under this title
9062			[Or, in other words, applied cryptanalysis will be illegal.
9063			too bad --- ]
9064	root	1.387	%
9065	root	1.1	Microsoft - Is it going to work today?
9066	root	1.387	%
9067	root	1.1	Subject: Re: [gimp-devel] GIF plugin legal issues
9068
9069			> Actually, my understanding is that Unisys doesn't currently enforce the
9070			> licensing cost on free software, but maybe I am mistaken.
9071
9072			The general wording, spoken by an unnamed GIMP developer, is, if you'll
9073			pardon the language, "Unisys can go fuck itself."
9074	root	1.387	%
9075	root	1.1	[once on linux-kernel:]
9076			> >who are you why on yahoo when iprint sf16fmi i fond you i need drv
9077			> Does anyone have the secret decoder ring to make sense of this?
9078			he's confused about us showing up in a search match on yahoo, but needs
9079			driver(s) for his sf16fmi thingy.
9080	root	1.387	%
9081	root	1.1	> Did you try to compile kdeadmin from the CVS tree ?
9082
9083			No I ran the KDE binaries. Im not interested in broken programs that
9084			include wrong #include files in their source.
9085	root	1.387	%
9086	root	1.1	[unix-faq]
9087
9088			Someday, you are going to accidentally type something like
9089			"rm * .foo", and find you just deleted "" instead of ".foo".
9090			Consider it a rite of passage.
9091	root	1.387	%
9092	root	1.1	"There's one word that strikes fear into nuclear scientists..."
9093			"Oops."
9094			-- MST3K
9095	root	1.387	%
9096	root	1.1	Seems like 80-bit spills would be closer to IEEE, if not close enough to
9097			claim full support. Off-hand I'd say people would be happier with
9098			those numeric properties than with the current situation.
9099
9100			I'll think about the esoterica (probably break down and ask people here).
9101			It would certainly make gcc the most reliable x86 floating-point compiler
9102			I know. Sun's does something similar to -ffloat-store by default (gee,
9103			look at how fast that ultra is), and Microsoft's runs off the end of the
9104			stack at run-time . I don't know what Intel's does, so I'm not considering
9105			it. ;)
9106	root	1.387	%
9107	root	1.1	>I was using the localtime function to change time_t into it's various
9108			>human-readable parts. I noticed that $year gets returned as 98 and
9109			>not 1998. I tested a few different unices and got the same result.
9110			>This is expected behavior based on the examples I've seen and my own
9111			>testing. My question is how is this y2k compliant?
9112
9113			What part of your C library's documentation on localtime(3), the perlfunc
9114			documentation on the Perl localtime function, the perlfaq4 entry on `Does
9115			Perl have a year 2000 problem?', and the Y2K document on www.perl.com
9116			did you find to be unclear on the answer to this question?
9117
9118			--tom
9119	root	1.387	%
9120	root	1.1	> * Have you ever wondered how life began ?
9121
9122			In a laboratory somewhere at Bell Labs.
9123
9124			>Why does it end ?
9125
9126			Ask the X3J11 committee.
9127
9128			> * Can you tell WHY there is life ? What is the purpose of it ?
9129			> * Can YOU do anything to make your life worth living ? WHAT ?
9130
9131			To promote the the DEATH OF ANSI C! K+R FOREVER! DOWN WITH PORTABILITY!
9132	root	1.387	%
9133	root	1.1	"Unix is Perl's IDE!"
9134			-- Tom Christiansen
9135	root	1.387	%
9136	root	1.1	[Sputnik]
9137
9138			Do you honestly think the Americans would mention a Soviet success? :-)
9139			A number of years back I saw an exhibition in the US on the development of
9140			supersonic passenger aircraft. They forgot to mention Concorde. It
9141			wouldn't surprise me in the least if most people at NASA had never heard
9142			of Sputnik.
9143	root	1.387	%
9144	root	1.1	NTFS by default adds unnecessary serialization to an extent that
9145			even older file systems such as FFS do not, and its performance
9146			characteristics reflect that. In fairness, it should be said that it is
9147			the superior approach for most removable media without software control
9148			of ejection (e.g. IBM PC floppies).
9149	root	1.387	%
9150	root	1.1	Never attribute to malice what could as well be explained by stupidity.
9151			- Hanlons razor -
9152	root	1.387	%
9153	root	1.1	Shallit's Razor: Never attribute to conspiracy what may be adequately
9154			explained by stupidity or incompetence.
9155	root	1.387	%
9156	root	1.1	According to Chris Nandor:
9157			> I thought about creating a web interface to input, edit, delete entries,
9158			> but that would have taken me longer, been more complex and less secure, and
9159			> offered no significant advantages.
9160
9161			That one's in the quotes file. Thanks.
9162	root	1.387	%
9163	root	1.1	My friend who had a Compaq called one day when his built-in cdrom drive
9164			stopped responding. Their answer "its a virus. Reinstal Windows". So he did
9165			(?) and it still didn't work. He called them and they said "its a virus,
9166			reinstall." "But I just installed. If there is a virus, it came from YOUR
9167			quick restore disk." "No, no virus there, but you DO have a virus. My paper
9168			in front of me says so."
9169
9170			He took it back and bought a Gateway.
9171	root	1.387	%
9172	root	1.1	9. Deinde, ne in posterum a XII kalendas aprilis aequinoctium recedat,
9173			statuimus bissextum quarto quoque anno (uti mos est) continuari debere,
9174			praeterquam in centesimis annis; qui, quamvis bissextiles antea semper
9175			fuerint, qualem etiam esse volumus annum MDC, post eum tamen qui
9176			deinceps consequentur centesimi non omnes bissextiles sint, sed in
9177			quadringentis quibusque annis primi quique tres centesimi sine bissexto
9178			transigantur, quartus vero quisque centesimus bissextilis sit, ita ut
9179			annus MDCC, MDCCC, MDCCCC bissextiles non sint. Anno vero MM, more
9180			consueto dies bissextus intercaletur, februario dies XXIX continente,
9181			idemque ordo intermittendi intercalandique bissextum diem in
9182			quadringentis quibusque annis perpetuo conservetur.
9183	root	1.387	%
9184	root	1.1	You obviously have not dealt with Microsoft Winnt 4.0
9185			and all the Service Pack then. While one Service Pack
9186			did somewhat correct the Y2K problem was not aware that
9187			2000 was in fact a leap year. There was no way to set
9188			the date to Feb 29, 2000.
9189	root	1.387	%
9190	root	1.1	"Ernst Lehmann, die Organisationsredundanz beim Cluster-Treffen"
9191	root	1.387	%
9192	root	1.388	HP Computer NEWS 3/98 about HP 2000/CN printer (page 24): "Darüber
9193	root	1.1	hinaus ... hat der HP 2000C/CN durch den Einsatz von Intel MMX-
9194			Technologie Zugriff auf deren Farbtabellen und kann so Farbbilder
9195			schneller verarbeiten" (A mistake made when translating. It's hard to
9196			get the wrong meaning if translated back to English, sorry.)
9197	root	1.387	%
9198	root	1.1	From: Robert Lipe
9199			> > I program computers with no screens and no keyboards for a living.
9200			> > Switches and front-panels are a LUXURY! :-)
9201			>
9202			> But I guess you are not _programming_ these computers without a keyboard
9203			> and/or screen.
9204
9205			Are you familiar with the Vulcan Mind Meld?
9206	root	1.387	%
9207	root	1.1	Subject: Re: [fwd from comp.lang.python] Re: Python 2 ideas [Re: access
9208			From: Tuomas Lukka <lukka@fas.harvard.edu>
9209
9210			On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
9211			> use pedantic;
9212			> use strict 'code';
9213			>
9214			> or whatever is the syntax to switch Perl into 'dull'/'pythonish' mode.
9215
9216			use syntax 'python';
9217
9218			Let's just embrace&extend'em ;) ;)
9219
9220	root	1.387	%
9221	root	1.1	Thus it was written in the epistle of Larry Wall,
9222			>
9223			> Having discussed all this thoroughly at the Hacker's Conference this
9224			> past weekend, I've come to the conclusion that Y2K will be traumatic
9225			> primarily because people think it will be traumatic. A panic is a
9226			> panic whether or not it's justified. People get trampled in panics.
9227			>
9228			> It should be illegal to yell "Y2K" in a crowded economy. :-)
9229	root	1.387	%
9230	root	1.1	[rfc1925]
9231			Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick any two (you can't have all three).
9232	root	1.387	%
9233	root	1.1	[Alan Cox, why not port hurd to sgi, instead of linux]
9234			> A possible minus is the message-passing between the servers which might
9235			> be time-consuming.
9236
9237			"Yesterdays technology, next week" to quote an OSI saying
9238	root	1.387	%
9239	root	1.1	UNIX versions of ctags handle the C language, and often Pascal and Fortran
9240			77. Sometimes, they even handle assembly language. Almost universally,
9241			however, they do not handle C++...
9242			[from "learning the vi editor"]
9243	root	1.387	%
9244	root	1.1	> correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a thread about this a few
9245			> months back that resolved the ping -f localhost as a ping bug.
9246
9247			Indeed, as Alan Cox said:
9248
9249			So get a non-buggy ping(8) client.
9250
9251			and as Ecclesiastes said:
9252
9253			Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been
9254			already of old time, which was before us.
9255			There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any
9256			remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
9257
9258			Regards,
9259			Tigran.
9260	root	1.387	%
9261	root	1.1	SNMP stands for Security Not My Problem
9262	root	1.387	%
9263	root	1.1	[slightly broken, though...]
9264			/* "Hello World" in B for 64-bit hardware! */
9265			hw [0] "Hello World.*n";
9266			main(){
9267			extrn hw;
9268			putchar(0[hw]);
9269			hw=+1;
9270			putchar(0[hw]);
9271			}
9272	root	1.387	%
9273	root	1.1	> So what comes first the chicken or the egg? :)
9274
9275			The egg. Always. By definition.
9276	root	1.387	%
9277	root	1.1	> > PPS: Robert, I just made my first y2k fix to that script ;()
9278			>
9279			> Better check your scsi cables.
9280	root	1.387	%
9281	root	1.1	Arroganz durch Wissen
9282			[Dirk Jagdmann]
9283	root	1.387	%
9284	root	1.1	[Re: Pegasus - Gut oder Boese?]
9285			> Weil er sie dabei ja unterstuetzt. Da er aber (abgesehen von den ersten
9286			> ein- oder zweimal) nur auf Anrufen von Rosa-Girl erscheint, koennte man es
9287			> auch anders herum sagen. wenn CU Pfeift, kommt er angaloppiert 8))
9288
9289	root	1.388	was aber leider bedeutet, daß usa die Rennsemmel ständig mit
9290	root	1.1	sich rumschleppen mu?. ^_-
9291			Nur weil die Kleine die Bimmel hat!
9292
9293	root	1.388	Und wer weiß, was dieses pädophile Pferd eigentlich noch so
9294	root	1.1	bezwecken will... ^_-
9295	root	1.387	%
9296	root	1.1	>James :\
9297			>
9298			>I apologize for adding a message to this possibly trivial thread.
9299
9300			I like your sig. I hope you use it for everything you post.
9301	root	1.387	%
9302	root	1.1	From: Mason <mason@schwanda.resnet.tamu.edu>
9303			Subject: night of the undead ip stack
9304			Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:03:19 -0600 (CST)
9305	root	1.387	%
9306	root	1.1	> The person who decides to invent UNICODE support for Linux
9307			> is just asking for a black eye.
9308
9309			But Unicode for NT is such fun!
9310
9311			For example, the checked DbgPrint() bluescreens above DISPATCH_LEVEL
9312			if you try to print a Unicode string--the Unicode->ASCII
9313			translation tables are marked as pageable.
9314
9315			Since as far as I know, printk() does not have any format specifiers
9316			that cause obscure kernel panics, Linux is clearly behind in this
9317			area.
9318	root	1.387	%
9319	root	1.1	Linux: a no problem operating system for no problem people.
9320			[Lukas Grunwald]
9321	root	1.387	%
9322	root	1.1	http://dd.sh/perlfs/:
9323
9324			THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL (PRE-ALPHA) VERSION OF THE PERL FILESYSTEM.
9325			EVEN WHEN IT LOADS WITHOUT CAUSING A KERNEL PANIC, IT WILL LOCK UP
9326			YOUR MACHINE, DESTROY ALL YOUR DATA, KIDNAP YOUR FAMILY AND
9327			(DEPENDING ON SAID FAMILY'S CONFIGURATION) SHOOT YOUR CAT, DOG, AND/OR
9328			FIRST-BORN CHILD.
9329	root	1.387	%
9330	root	1.1	[a comment on http://dd.sh/perlfs/]
9331			Forget GNU/Linux. /PerL/inux will conquer all.
9332
9333			kill 0,1 if -x '/PerL/inux'; # request kernel mode
9334	root	1.387	%
9335	root	1.1	[Tim Hollebeek on real arithmetic]
9336			On a machine with a sane floating point model, the results make sense.
9337			For example, my SGI workstation prints:
9338
9339			0.00000000000000011102 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000020000 1.00000000000000040000
9340
9341			However, a machine with the Intel FPU from hell gives:
9342
9343			0.00000000000000000005 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000
9344
9345			due to the fact that whether 1+x and 1 are the same number depends on whether
9346			the numbers are in the FPU or not.
9347	root	1.387	%
9348	root	1.388	[Grüner Tip/Arte]
9349	root	1.1	Ihre Nachbarn sind zu laut und feiern andauernd Parties? Kein Problem, ihr
9350	root	1.388	Bohrer wird nachts um zwei spielend mit _jedem_ Lärm fertig....
9351	root	1.387	%
9352	root	1.1	Remember, eating healthy doesn't make you live longer, it just makes it seem
9353			longer...
9354	root	1.387	%
9355	root	1.1	[M$ about unix development tools like GCC]
9356			By the standards of the novice / intermediate developer accustomed to
9357			VB/VS/VC/VJ, these tools are incredibly primitive.
9358	root	1.387	%
9359	root	1.1	> > Praha is nice and our university is interesting, since it is according
9360			> > to tests most complex and impractical computer science university on the
9361			> > world :) I just love it...
9362			>
9363			> Oh well, great that I won't be studying there...
9364			>
9365			It is really fun.... just now I have lesson (that reminds me that I really
9366			should go now) about set theory and infinity... it is really fun and very
9367			practical...
9368			for example that you have cinema with infinity chairs and infinity plus one
9369			person wants to see movie... what do yo do?
9370			Just let sit down the first infinity persons and then last person ask first
9371			one to move to second chair, second one to move to third and so on and
9372			everyone fits.. isn't that great to know? :))
9373
9374			Jan Hubicka
9375	root	1.387	%
9376	root	1.1	> template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> A {};
9377			[...]
9378			> I think that this construction is allowed by the ANSI C++.
9379
9380			No, it is not. What you meant is
9381
9382			template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> class A {};
9383	root	1.387	%
9384	root	1.1	Jan Dubois writes:
9385			> A) perl-5.00553
9386			> path = \perl\5.00553\bin\MsWin32-x86\perl.exe
9387			> cc = cl.exe
9388			A performance analysis compiling with M$ compiler? Get real!
9389
9390			[...]
9391
9392			Ilya
9393	root	1.387	%
9394	root	1.1	>Shouldn't the kernel compile with all combinations of options.
9395
9396			Yes. Feel free to fix it and send a patch.
9397
9398			p.
9399	root	1.387	%
9400	root	1.1	[tomc]
9401			Jean-Louis provides four arguments in favor of the overloading of the
9402			logical && and \|\| operators. Here they are:
9403
9404			+------------------------------------------+
9405			\| Other languages, notably C++, permit it. \|
9406			+------------------------------------------+
9407
9408			This one is hardly persuasive. Many languages do innumerable things
9409			that Perl does not do. Just for example, take:
9410
9411			* Csh reparses and re-evals interpolated strings, allowing something
9412			like C<$cmd $var> to do interesting things.
9413			* The Fortran lexer (as it were), having no need of white space to
9414			infer tokens, allows C<DO I=1.10> and C<DO I=1,10> to coexist in an
9415			interesting way.
9416			* Icon has an entirely different notion of success and failure,
9417			allowing expressions like (X < Y < Z) to do interesting things.
9418			* Scheme has call-with-continuation, allowing co-routines to do
9419			interesting things.
9420			* C++ has template classes with abnormal typing rules even for that
9421			language, allowing parameterized meta-classes to do interesting
9422			things.
9423	root	1.387	%
9424	root	1.1	Make is like Pascal: everybody likes it, so they go in and change it.
9425			--Dennis Ritchie
9426	root	1.387	%
9427	root	1.1	perl -wlpe '}{$_=$.' file # Count the number of lines.
9428	root	1.387	%
9429	root	1.1	[not quite duff's device, but...]
9430
9431			switch (x)
9432			default:
9433			if (prime(x))
9434			case 2: case 3: case 5: case 7:
9435			process_prime(x);
9436			else
9437			case 4: case 6: case 8: case 9: case 10:
9438			process_composite(x);
9439	root	1.387	%
9440	root	1.1	Is there any truth to the rumor that the number appearing
9441			after the words "Microsoft Windows" is the minimum amount of memory,
9442			in megabytes, required for execution?
9443
9444			Craig Milo Rogers
9445	root	1.387	%
9446	root	1.1	Mark Mielke writes:
9447			> This statement is false. The simple fact that school textbooks teach it
9448			> to be indeterminate should be enough to convince you of that.
9449
9450			This is just another reference point about the state of education in
9451			US (apparently in Canada too?).
9452
9453			Ilya
9454	root	1.387	%
9455	root	1.1	[from p5p]
9456			> Now you know why threading is experimental and all, buddy.
9457
9458			Experimental schexperimental. Anything that doesn't cause an
9459			immediate coredump is not experimental. :-) (Observant readers will
9460			note that this is a more rigorous standard than Microsoft's.)
9461
9462			Nat
9463	root	1.387	%
9464	root	1.1	Needless to say, Linux awk is probably gawk, which has been taking too
9465			much steroids for a while. =)
9466
9467			--Albert Dvornik
9468			<bert@genscan.com>
9469	root	1.387	%
9470	root	1.1	Subject: Re: zero width lookbehind considered slow
9471			From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@jhereg.perl.com>
9472			Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:40:37 -0500
9473
9474			>You do not understand? Perl is slow...
9475
9476			Ilya: You are formerly invited to go play in the python
9477			or tcl crowd instead of here.
9478
9479			--tom
9480	root	1.387	%
9481	root	1.1	>What's it? Can linux be improved too? Or has it already been improved?
9482
9483			Linux has never done anything so stupid in the first place.
9484
9485			Linus
9486	root	1.387	%
9487	root	1.1	On the 8th day god created email. And got noted the world was good. Then the
9488			devil added HTML mail...
9489	root	1.387	%
9490	root	1.1	linux/lib/vsprintf.c: * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds fucked it up :-)
9491			linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/binfmt_aout32.c: /* Fuck me plenty... */
9492			linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/ptrace.c:/* Fuck me gently with a chainsaw... */
9493	root	1.387	%
9494	root	1.1	On 1998-10-11T02:37:57,
9495			Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> said:
9496
9497			> Believe me Microsoft think Linux is a threat now. Its level with things like
9498			> java in their perceived threat list, so you can expect all the usual MS
9499			> techniques to start coming this way and very soon.
9500
9501			Arm the gnus!
9502	root	1.387	%
9503	root	1.1	[David Miller after (another) endless discussion with Richard Kenner]
9504
9505			Anyways, I tired (just like everyone else) of arguing endlessly with
9506			you, you're in the past, you no longer constrain my ability to improve
9507			gcc, so go away.
9508	root	1.387	%
9509	root	1.1	I received my copy of Visual Studio 6.0 today. I couldn't believe that it
9510			wanted to install the C++ compiler into a directory called:
9511
9512			"\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98"
9513
9514			But anyways, I just had to find out if it was finally possible to compile
9515			Perl (without PERL_OBJECT) with optimization (-O2).
9516	root	1.387	%
9517	root	1.1	[on perl version numbering]
9518			> So it could be 5.006 for the developers, but "ThreadPerl" or "Perl with
9519			> Multithreads" (or some such) for the journalists, if that's what
9520			> journalists need to make them pay attention.
9521
9522			Down that path lies "Perl version 5.006, codename `Ticklish Uvula',
9523			was released today" madness.
9524	root	1.387	%
9525	root	1.1	[on perl version numbering]
9526			> elaine> 5.1 would be a good thing(tm) as it would draw attention,
9527			> elaine> etc. in a way that a developers versioning would. The
9528			> elaine> world is not populated by people who think the same
9529			> elaine> way. To that end, this would be a good change. Of course,
9530			> elaine> we could call it Perl99.
9531			>
9532			> To me, Perl seems to be recognized for it's language qualities, not
9533			> for marketing reasons. IMHO, perl may keep this difference with other
9534			> wintel product. More than that : Perl99, would let believe people that
9535			> it is not Y2K proofed, or still in beta (<1.00). So it's not a good
9536			> marketing name, anyway.
9537
9538			Right. Then, to be Y2K compliant, we'll have to call it Perl1999. Hmmm.
9539			"The year perl left earth's orbit"? Maybe we need to get the NASA guys to
9540			put perl on the next low-cost spaceshot.
9541
9542			Of course, then c.l.p.m's motto could be "We do not commit mindless
9543			violence..." :-)
9544	root	1.387	%
9545	root	1.1	Rule 1 says that Larry says that Larry has the last say, unless he changes
9546			his mind in which case he still has the last say.
9547	root	1.387	%
9548	root	1.1	> >I never said it did.. I should have said: Binary only drivers encourage
9549			> >poor drivers
9550			>
9551			> No it doesn't.
9552
9553			Indeed. Its down to
9554
9555			Profit = (units * margin) - overhead
9556
9557			and the folks who decide "overhead" arent the programmers but the management.
9558			The folks who say "you have two weeks allocated to write this driver, then
9559			we ship it" are the folks to take the issue up with, and that goes source
9560			or binaries.
9561	root	1.387	%
9562	root	1.1	dig txt leap.yp.to
9563	root	1.387	%
9564	root	1.1	"The fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that nobody's after me..."
9565	root	1.387	%
9566	root	1.1	[linux-kernel on endianess issues with NIPQUAD]
9567
9568			\|> Do I read this correct?!? Is it more acceptable to have a bug[*],
9569			\|> than a not optimal fix?!?!?
9570			\|>
9571			\|> s/optimal/stupid/
9572
9573			What's stupid is little endian. <g>
9574
9575			Andreas.
9576	root	1.387	%
9577	root	1.1	[Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
9578			...
9579			A closely related question is `What is 1 minute before 23:59:60?''.
9580
9581			Here's a good one: `What is 1 month before 1 February 1995 in
9582			Kiritimati?''. There was no 1 January 1995 in Kiritimati; they
9583			skipped a day by moving the clocks ahead 24 hours. Similar issues
9584			arise when asking about times that occur within smaller, more typical
9585			UTC offset changes. A number of obscure questions arise here, and I'm
9586			not sure it's worth standardizing all the answers.
9587	root	1.387	%
9588	root	1.1	[D.J.Bernstein on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
9589
9590			Paul Eggert writes:
9591			> which I am calling the `modified TIME_TAI''
9592
9593			Your time differences break down near leap seconds. Ever watched xntpd
9594			try to handle a leap second? Wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble.
9595	root	1.387	%
9596	root	1.1	For binary only drivers you can assume most vendors will build x86 only
9597			however.
9598
9599			"We don't have the tools"
9600			"We can't support a non intel build"
9601			"We don't have that sort of machine"
9602			"Its not worth the time cost"
9603			"Whats an Alpha ?"
9604	root	1.387	%
9605	root	1.1	On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote:
9606
9607			> The original message was received at Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:39:56 -0400
9608			> from mini [10.0.0.3]
9609			>
9610			> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
9611			> <mailproc@fred>
9612			>
9613			> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
9614			> procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
9615			> procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
9616			> procmail: can't load library 'libc.so.5'
9617			> 554 <mailproc@fred>... unknown mailer error 16
9618	root	1.387	%
9619	root	1.1	> Here is the difficulty with this discussion:
9620			> No documented problem
9621			> No reason to believe that the "solution" solves the unspecified "problem"
9622			> No clear understanding of the effects of this change on the system
9623			>
9624			> Why, this could be a discusion among AIX developers!
9625	root	1.387	%
9626	root	1.1	> This would be a reasonable committee-like compromise that might
9627			> satisfy neither of us (:-).
9628	root	1.387	%
9629	root	1.1	By default Microsoft has set Explorer to use gz files as VRML, you need to
9630			change the association for .gz / vrml from "start vrml program" to "always ask"
9631
9632			dave
9633	root	1.387	%
9634	root	1.1	On 10 Aug 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
9635			DG> You're not programming MS-DOS applications are you?
9636
9637			BP> Hell no. I wouldn't touch MS-DOS with a ten-foot network cable.
9638	root	1.387	%
9639	root	1.1	[Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
9640
9641			Date: 10 Oct 1998 15:35:05 -0000
9642			From: "D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>
9643
9644			Paul Eggert writes:
9645			> * 29 February if it's a leap lear, 28 February otherwise.
9646
9647			If that's 1 month before 31 March, then what's 1 month before 30 March?
9648			1 month before 29 March?
9649
9650			The same as 1 month before 31 March.
9651
9652			1 month before 28 March?
9653
9654			28 February.
9655
9656			And what's 1 month after 28 February? 1 month after 27 February? 1 month
9657			_before_ 27 February?
9658
9659			28 March, 27 March, and 27 January.
9660	root	1.387	%
9661	root	1.1	Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
9662
9663			>Nils Goesche wrote:
9664			>> So make a security check first:
9665			>>
9666			>> if (status = UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK)
9667			>> launch_full_counterstrike();
9668			>
9669			>Hmmm. The way the worlds been going lately, AI wouldn't trust that code to
9670			>do the job. Here's the revised version:
9671			>
9672			>if(status == UNDER_NULEAR_ATTACK); /* Corrected dangerous
9673			> = instead of == error*/
9674			> launch_full_counterstrike();
9675			>
9676			>Now isn't that much more reliable?
9677			>
9678			>--
9679			>Email: cyrand@hotmail.com
9680
9681			The following variant is less reliable but much safer:
9682
9683			if (status == UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK); /* Correct dangerous
9684			launch_full_counterstrike (); = instead == error */
9685	root	1.387	%
9686	root	1.1	It is even more cheerful than that. Not so long time ago a customers
9687			of ours totally destroyed his NT installation on Alpha.
9688
9689			He found on a manufacturer page, no money - for a download, "NT driver"
9690			for his particular piece of a hardware. So he followed instructions
9691			to the letter - "Installation Wizzard" and all that crap - and the thing
9692			happily installed clobbering, as it is customary in these circles,
9693			essential system libraries with its own versions. The catch was that
9694			this driver was for NT/Intel and these bozos did not even bother to
9695			check for an architecture or at least mention something in some blurb.
9696			Ooops! No chance even to try to boot anymore.
9697
9698			The saving grace was that the installation was rather new, so loses
9699			were not big, and he had an opportunity to practice an essential skill
9700			of re-installing Windows NT. Ah, and yes, this was the only NT driver
9701			available for that hardware from any source.
9702			What do you plan on doing? Using a PA system for networking? :)
9703			Whats next? A Smell modem? It would bring a new meaning to packet
9704			sniffing!
9705	root	1.387	%
9706	root	1.1	"I'd rather spend 10 hours reading source code than 10 minutes on a
9707			technical support line that isn't"
9708	root	1.387	%
9709	root	1.1	[from linux-kernel]
9710			`This code fills 8 million seats, we therefore decide what's standard.''
9711	root	1.387	%
9712	root	1.1	[...]
9713			And especially with new machines users have a lot of clout. Several UK
9714			suppliers now carry Buslogic cards partly because they got fed up of
9715
9716			"I'd like to order a dual PII/300, 256Mb of RAM, 17" monitor
9717			4 4Gig IBM disks, and a buslogic scsi controller"
9718			"We dont do buslogic only adaptec"
9719			"Nothing else"
9720			"Sorry"
9721			[Click]
9722
9723			Alan
9724	root	1.387	%
9725	root	1.388	Fünfzig Prozent der Amerikaner wurden in ihrer Kindheit sexuell mißbraucht,
9726			während weitere fünfzig Prozent von Außerirdischen entführt wurden.
9727	root	1.387	%
9728	root	1.1	> Let's not forget that this is just an informal, free
9729			> software project. Unlke the US House of Representatives
9730			> we do not yet posess nuclear capability (certain RTEMS
9731			> users excepted, of course!).
9732
9733			Hmmm, if some RTEMS users have nuclear facilities attached to their
9734			systems, they might be well advised to be careful using FORTRAN as
9735			their language of choice. The comp.lang.fortran FAQ states (with
9736			concurrence from resident X3J3 members) that "using a non-standard
9737			construct might start WW III, if the necessary (optional) hardware
9738			is installed"
9739
9740			[Toon Moene in private discussion]
9741	root	1.387	%
9742	root	1.1	Newsgroups: alt.config
9743
9744			L. Harris wrote:
9745			>
9746			> Testing
9747
9748			you failed.
9749	root	1.387	%
9750	root	1.1	Roswell {Unit 6 of 5 Sam Borg} Coverup [Rev. joWazzoo - well mannered despammer]
9751			<JOWazzoo@WhiteICE.com> at We are Sam Borg Spam Assimilators Ltd. - Area 51 HQ
9752	root	1.387	%
9753	root	1.1	Perl is really designed more for the guys that will hack Perl at least
9754			20 minutes a day for the rest of their career. TCL/Python is more a
9755			"20 minutes a week", and VB is probably in that "20 minutes a month"
9756			group. :) -- Randal Schwartz
9757	root	1.387	%
9758	root	1.1	> alternative, when it comes to stability and power...Not to mention the
9759			> fact that bugs and fixes are very quickly available and don't come in
9760			> 18MB+ "Service Packs" :).
9761
9762			What, you mean you _paid_ for service pack '98?
9763	root	1.387	%
9764	root	1.1	We got this INTERNET because we whan't more information ( to learn ) now it
9765			seem's people can't handle what they see. You say freedom is a mater of
9766			choice (well it is) you have the freedom to choose to carry your butt some
9767			where else...
9768	root	1.387	%
9769	root	1.1	Steve Orzel (phloam@vol.com) wrote:
9770			[...]
9771			: The purpose of the newsgroup is to help out other people that have questions
9772			: about a certain topic.
9773	root	1.387	%
9774	root	1.1	Mark Robinson wrote:
9775			>
9776			> Does any have any source code to games that I can have? Does anybody
9777			> know where I can get game sources(legally)?
9778
9779			Here's the trial version of the three-room text adventure I'm going to
9780			write. I'm not finished yet, though.
9781
9782			void main (void)
9783			{
9784			printf ("You are in a dark room.\n");
9785			printf ("\n");
9786			printf ("You feel a sharp pain.\n");
9787			printf ("You have died.\n");
9788			printf ("\n");
9789			printf ("!!! GAME OVER !!!");
9790			}
9791
9792			(Don't tell, but I took some of the code from Quake.)
9793
9794			--
9795			John Kugelman. kugelman@mnsinc.com
9796	root	1.387	%
9797	root	1.1	[mail I got after releasing a zip-password cracker, the second biggest
9798			mistake I ever made]
9799
9800			From: "Tom Miller"
9801			Subject: Can
9802			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
9803
9804			Hay man can you send me some hacking tips and tricks please
9805			send to kymmiller@bigpond.com
9806			my name is Tom Miller
9807
9808			From: "Tom Miller"
9809			Subject: Wait
9810			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
9811
9812			Hey man its Tom can you also send me any easy systems to hack and the
9813			passwords also send me any infomation about hacking websites thank you
9814	root	1.387	%
9815	root	1.1	From: lm@bitmover.com (Larry McVoy)
9816
9817			[...] then think a little before flaming. Or better yet, produce something
9818			better. Flaming is easy but it is basically masturbation without the orgasm
9819			so why bother? [...]
9820	root	1.387	%
9821	root	1.388	Günter Höns <guenter.hoens@gmd.de>
9822	root	1.1
9823			Newsgroups: de.alt.ufo
9824
9825			Offensichtlich ist noch keinem das Wasser-Wachstum aufgefallen, das sogar
9826			jeden Tag geschieht. Jeden Tag waechst der Wasserberg im Meer um mehrere
9827			Meter, ist dann naeher an der Sonne und verdunstet dann. Sogenannte
9828			Wissenschaftler haben eine abenteuerliche Theorie ueber den Einfluss des
9829			Mondes auf dieses Wachstum aufgestellt, aber inzwischen wissen wir es
9830			besser: Die Wasser-Molekuele werden von Neutrinos getroffen, und verdoppeln
9831			sich dann.
9832	root	1.387	%
9833	root	1.1	CRASH(8)
9834			no fs
9835			A device has disappeared from the mounted-device table.
9836			Definitely hardware or software error.
9837
9838			Unix Version 7 Manual
9839	root	1.387	%
9840	root	1.1	On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Larry Wall wrote:
9841			>
9842			> Maybe Pi looks like this:
9843			>
9844			> =for C
9845			> i++; /* add 1 to i */
9846			> =end
9847			> =for C++
9848			> i.value() += 1; // add 1 to i, probably
9849			> =end
9850			> =for Java
9851			> system().foo().bar().i().value().please().increment(); // ???
9852			> =end
9853			>
9854			> :-)
9855	root	1.387	%
9856	root	1.1	> > USENET is not the non-clickable part of WWW!
9857	root	1.387	%
9858	root	1.1	[on linux 2.1.111]
9859
9860			The horrid underlining which was a feature with the monochrome Linux vt's on
9861			the previous two releases of the kernel has gone. Unfortunately, so has the
9862			cursor. A couple of brief experiments didn't result in me finding a way to
9863			turn it on.
9864	root	1.387	%
9865	root	1.1	[...]
9866			its a true story, it happend this weekend in a nice country
9867			between Belgium (wellknown for its Dutroux-case) and Germany
9868			(wellknown for its Bratwurst), lets call it the Lowlands...
9869			[...]
9870	root	1.387	%
9871	root	1.1	I get a sense of god-like proportions when I patch /dev/kmem with dd(1).
9872
9873			Chad C Giffin
9874	root	1.387	%
9875	root	1.1	[usenet, an anology]
9876			Mary Green's car was smoking. She got worried. "Whatever should I do?"
9877			worried Mary... Well, as she drove along she noticed a florists shop. "Aha!
9878			Thought Mary, "Flour shops are full of thoughtless men who need to apologize to
9879			their wives. These men are the sometimes the same ones I see swearing under
9880			the hoods of their cars in the shade of a tree."
9881
9882			"Brrring" said the bell of the door to the flower shop as Mary poked her head
9883			through the door.
9884			"HELP!!! MY CAR IS SMOKING!" Screamed Mary.
9885			"There is a garage right next door." Said the shopkeeper.
9886			"That's right," Said Melvin, "And there is a parts store across the street. If
9887			you ask for Fred, he's pretty savvy about that kind of stuff."
9888			Now Joe was also in the flower store. This was his first time in trouble, so
9889			he did not hear the 30 or 40 people per day who came in screaming about their
9890			cars smoking (mostly men, of course -- the ones under the shade trees,
9891			usually.)
9892
9893			"Why don't you help the stinking lady!!" Screamed Joe. "It might be your
9894			muffler bearings..." he continued. Or maybe it's your deisel glow plugs or
9895			your tire pressure..."
9896			Now Tim, also new to the flower shop felt the courage to chime in, "Or it could
9897			even be your cooling system. Sometimes a hose gets a crack."
9898			"My car smoked once and it was an oil leak, where the head gasket was spraying
9899			oil in the manifold." Hollered Larry
9900			"Hey lady, why don't you get your car the patch if it's smoking" chortled Glen.
9901			Well, the hollering went on into the evening, and the lady finally went to the
9902			gas station and found that the heater core had a tiny split and was repaired in
9903			three days for a cost of $175.23.
9904	root	1.387	%
9905	root	1.1	> Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
9906
9907			Sicher, das macht der Inzest, und die Isolation!:)
9908	root	1.387	%
9909	root	1.1	> Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
9910
9911			Stimmt, deswegen waren sie wohl auch die ersten, die Hitler hinterherliefen...
9912			:-(
9913	root	1.387	%
9914	root	1.1	>Mt 24,34 Wahrlich, ich sage euch: Dieses Geschlecht wird nicht vergehen, bis
9915			>dies alles geschieht.
9916			>Und es verging nicht.
9917
9918			So what?
9919
9920			Ich dachte eher an:
9921
9922			" 'Und sein Wabbel wird an einer Lanze aufgespiesst', wiederholte der
9923			Oberste Groesste Meister grimmig. Im Hintergrund knarrte etwas, als
9924			Bruder Pfoertner versuchte, das klemmende Portal zu oeffnen. 'Sind wir
9925			jetzt alle soweit? Befinden sich vielleicht noch andere Unwissende
9926			unter uns,die sich verirrt haben?' fuegte er mit aetzendem Sarkasmus
9927			hinzu. 'Gut. Wunderbar. Ich bin ja _so_ froh. Vermutlich brauche ich
9928			nicht zu fragen, ob die vier Wachtuerme geschlossen sind, oder? Oh,
9929			ausgezeichnet. Hat sich jemand die Muehe gemacht, der Heiligen Hose
9930			die Beichte abzunehmen? Ach, tatsaechlich? Auf die richtige Art und
9931			Weise? Und wenn ich nachsehe? Na schoen. Sind vor den Fenstern die
9932			roten Kordeln des Intellekts gespannt worden? Gut. Nun, dann koennen
9933			wir jetzt vielleicht beginnen.' ".
9934
9935			Terry Pratchett, "Wachen! Wachen!", S. 15f
9936
9937			Antje
9938	root	1.387	%
9939	root	1.1	[....]
9940
9941			Da muss ich ja, obwohl ich beinahe meinen Humor verloren haette, leise
9942			grinsen. Ich darf zusammenfassen: Du bringst uns keine Beweise, weil Du 1.
9943			zu arm und 2. zu sehr ausgelastet mit der Rettung der Welt und der Zukunft
9944			und so bist. Ausserdem brauchst Du keine Beweise, weil sich Dein
9945			Gedankengebaeude nach eingehender Nabelschau als selbsttragend erwiesen hat.
9946			Finde ich gut! Akzeptiert!
9947
9948			Da will ich nicht weiter stoeren,
9949
9950			Antje
9951	root	1.387	%
9952	root	1.1	It seems that writing to /dev/vcs0 makes the console singing "Ugh,
9953			lalala, I love you baby..."
9954			--
9955			Pavel.Janik@inet.cz
9956	root	1.387	%
9957	root	1.1	On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Linus Torvalds wrote:
9958			>
9959			> Kubys
9960
9961			Kubys is my evil twin brother. Sorry about that.
9962
9963			Linus
9964	root	1.387	%
9965	root	1.1	> eieio stands for "Enforce In-Order Execution of I/O".
9966
9967			.... and it is definitely my favorite name for an assembly language
9968			instruction (the non-native-English speakers on the list presumably
9969			don't know the childhood song "Old McDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O").
9970	root	1.387	%
9971	root	1.1	> It is big and never uses.
9972
9973			That's parses like English, but I'll be hornswoggled if I can figure
9974			out what it means.
9975			--
9976			Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
9977	root	1.387	%
9978	root	1.1	[...] HP's PA-8500, for example, has 1.5 Mbytes of L1 cache on-chip. The
9979			company has described the 8500 as a cache SRAM with an ancillary CPU. [...]
9980	root	1.387	%
9981	root	1.1	From: Dave Cinege <dcinege@psychosis.com>
9982			Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:10:31 -0400
9983
9984			Terry L Ridder wrote:
9985
9986			> at some future date end up being released under the BSD License is what
9987			> is being discussed.
9988
9989			Well my licence is bigger then your licence.
9990	root	1.387	%
9991	root	1.1	[gtk/testgtk, after dragging & dropping an object:]
9992
9993			Drop data of type text/plain was:
9994
9995			Bill Gates demands royalties for your use of his innovation
9996
9997			[and the button reads]
9998
9999			Continue with life in spite of this oppression
10000	root	1.387	%
10001	root	1.1	Joshua Waxman <jwaxman@ymail.yu.edu> writes:
10002
10003			While DJGPP is indeed a C as well as a C compiler, there are certain
10004
10005			A terribly succinct, as well as a true, statement. However, it has a
10006			certain amount of redundancy.
10007	root	1.387	%
10008	root	1.1	Compatibility with oneself is Microsoft's greatest strength. When they hit
10009			the 64 bit transition they will hit a major internal incompatibility problem.
10010
10011			...
10012
10013			Peter da Silva <peter@baileynm.com>
10014	root	1.387	%
10015	root	1.1	>Hello,
10016			>
10017			>I am new to Perl. Can anyone tell me where I can download a full
10018			>operational Perl version for a Windows 95 system?
10019			>
10020
10021			Of course it all depends on what you mean by "a full operational Perl
10022			version" Perl on Win32 has limitations that are largely due to the
10023			nature of the underlying OS, Perl on Win95 has further limitations
10024			compared with NT due to its own shortcomings .
10025	root	1.387	%
10026	root	1.1	An injunction delaying Windows 98 would clearly have a negative impact
10027			on the country as a whole.
10028			Compaq President & CEO Eckhard Pfeiffer,
10029			explaining why Microsoft shouldn't be
10030			prosecuted under anti-monopoly laws.
10031	root	1.387	%
10032	root	1.1	With a PC, I always felt limited by the software available. On Unix, I am
10033			limited by my knowledge. --Peter J. Schoenster <pschon@baste.magibox.net>
10034	root	1.387	%
10035	root	1.1	There is a need to keep from being locked into Open Systems. --IBM sales rep
10036	root	1.387	%
10037	root	1.1	In comp.lang.perl.misc,
10038			Stylin <stylinsty@yahoo.comREMOVE> writes:
10039			:Can anyone point me to the algorithm for creating a unique id?
10040
10041			$id = `cat /dev/kmem`;
10042
10043			--tom
10044			--
10045			Real programmers can write assembly code in any language. :-)
10046			--Larry Wall in <8571@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>
10047	root	1.387	%
10048	root	1.1	Newsgroup: comp.lang.perl.misc
10049			Subject: Larry 1 Bill 0
10050	root	1.387	%
10051	root	1.1	On 3 Jul 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
10052
10053			> The only problem with these AIs is that they don't handle references
10054			> to themselves as AIs very well. In faSegmentation fault (core dumped)
10055			> NO CARRIER
10056			> !@&#@#%T^@&(GUSD(@!&(@#R(FERHGH*(@#(&$&#@Y!&R
10057	root	1.387	%
10058	root	1.1	> People come here to ask questions, not for intellectual gratification, but
10059			> rather they are seeking solutions. As such, the incorrect answer was
10060			> better.
10061
10062			There's something... terribly wrong with this statement. I can't quite put
10063			my finger on it. Hmmm.
10064	root	1.387	%
10065	root	1.1	comp.lang.c does not exist to accomodate the laziness of those who cannot be
10066			bothered to learn netiquette. That's what comp.lang.c++ is for.
10067	root	1.387	%
10068	root	1.1	\|> : > but... a microwave is an example of an embedded system,
10069			\|>
10070			\|> : Who says? He just said it was a microwave. He didn't say it was
10071			\|> : a free-standing implimentation.
10072			\|>
10073			\|> This is approaching arguing for the sake of argument. Have you
10074			\|> ever seen a microwave oven that supports a hosted C environment?
10075
10076			The Lipton Ritchie Model 8 did. I'm sure that many posters will
10077			point out that Lipton's implementation of the stdio libraries was
10078			horrendously buggy. It was, but it was still a great system. It
10079			remains the only C implementation I know of that could be used to
10080			build Bison, and then cook it.
10081
10082			Viva la buffalo burgers.
10083	root	1.387	%
10084	root	1.1	A strategically-placed PDP-11 can be used to heat your entire
10085			home. I've got one in my basement, next to a large box of "She's
10086			The Sheriff" drink coasters. I sold my furnace years ago. The
10087			Digital Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning Corporation
10088			can be found online at http://www.dhvacc.com/.
10089	root	1.387	%
10090	root	1.1	The lbxproxy program has various options, all of which are optional.
10091			-- lbxproxy(1)
10092	root	1.387	%
10093	root	1.1	Re: Where to learn Windows programming...
10094
10095			\|> I'll take a Schildt book any day, thanks.
10096
10097			Great. I'm expecting to see the line above as a back-cover blurb
10098			on the next "Bullschildt: The Complete Reference".
10099	root	1.387	%
10100	root	1.1	Subject: Re: The wrong position of while, if and else?
10101
10102			that's some ugly piece of code buddy...
10103	root	1.387	%
10104	root	1.1	In article <1998062718481700.OAA03186@ladder01.news.aol.com>, eyrei@aol.com (EYREI) writes:
10105			\|> I have recently started learning the C Language. I have created a simple file
10106			\|> to determine whether or not a number is Prime. When I run it, the program
10107			\|> crashes with the error message :- Unhandled Exception :- General Protection
10108			\|> Exception 0x5FD7:0x379F. Prime(1) Processor Fault.
10109
10110			\|> What does this mean.
10111
10112			It means you've got a broken operating system, and should immediately
10113			install [free\|net\|open]BSD[OS] or Linux.
10114	root	1.387	%
10115	root	1.1	Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
10116
10117			On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Emulov wrote:
10118			> Hi, i don't know if this is a stupid question..
10119
10120			Off-topic, too! Imagine that.
10121	root	1.387	%
10122	root	1.1	"Right now we are the most shit hot piece of PC networking software on the
10123			planet. The only people who can touch us are FreeBSD (who also dont do
10124			streams)."
10125			-- Alan Cox, in "Streams and Linux"
10126	root	1.387	%
10127	root	1.1	"Perl combines all of the worst aspects of BASIC, C and line noise."
10128			- Keith Packard <keithp@ncd.com>
10129	root	1.387	%
10130	root	1.1	Lord Fellatio <richter_m@hotmail.com>
10131
10132			>Wo soll das Loch denn dann sein? Im Meeresboden?
10133
10134			Klaro.
10135
10136			>Von oben duerfte man es also ueberhaupt nicht sehen
10137			>koennen, da ueber dem potentiellen Loch im Meeresboden doch
10138			>wahrscheinlich erstmal Wasser und dann viel Eis liegen wuerde. Wie
10139			>verhindern die Ausserirdischen denn, dass Wasser ins Loch einstroemt?
10140
10141	root	1.388	Na ist doch völlig logo, mit nem rotierenden Traktorstrahl. Die
10142	root	1.1	Energie klauen die ?r***e dem Erdmagnetfeld.
10143
10144			>Gibt es da einen kosmischen Badewannenstoepsel? Haben sie es mit
10145			>Eisbergen verstopft? Oder benutzen sie das einstroemende Wasser zu
10146			>Kajakfahrten bis hinunter zum Suedpol? (Das waere doch auch endlich
10147			>mal eine einleuchtende Erklaerung fuer die Eismassen, die die
10148			>Antarktis bedecken - man muesste halt nur, der Kontinentaldrift
10149			>folgend, immer wieder neue Schaechte bohren. Oder die Kontinentaldrift
10150			>einfach wegdiskutieren...)
10151
10152			Die enorme Zentrifugalkraft im Erdinnern schleudert das Wasser wieder
10153			am Nordpolpol raus, falls der Traktorstrahl versagen sollte (Dies
10154			passiert immer dann, wenn das Erdmagnetfeld umkippt). Nun kommt sicher
10155	root	1.388	der Einwand, die Erde würde zu langsam rotieren. Das ist nur bedingt
10156			richtig. Richtig ist hingegen, daß die Rotationsgeschwindigkeit im
10157			Erdinnern um den Faktor 1000 (ca; sehr schwer zu messen: Magma) größer
10158			ist als auf der Erdoberfläche. Dies ist auch die Ursache für die
10159	root	1.1	Kontinentaldrift und die Mondphasen.
10160
10161			Die Mondphasen wiederum beeinflussen das Erdmagnetfeld und sind daher
10162	root	1.388	die Ursache für die Sonnenflecken. Den Sonnenflecken haben wir auch
10163			die momentane Klimaveränderung zu verdanken. Auf der anderen Seite hat
10164			die Zunahme der Treibhausgase eine Erhöhung des Reflektionsvermögens
10165			der Atmosphäre zur Folge, welches dazu führt, daß ein Teil der
10166			Sonnenenergie zur Sonne zurückreflektiert wird. Dies heizt wiederum
10167			die Sonnenflecken auf und verkürzt deren Zyklus. All dies wird sich in
10168			den nächten Monaten so aufschaukeln, daß vorraussichtlich im Novemner
10169	root	1.1	2002 das Erdmagnetfeld zusammenbrechen wird. Wie damals bei den Dinos.
10170			Nur war dort ein Kometeneinschlag die Ursache.
10171
10172			cu in hell 2002
10173	root	1.387	%
10174	root	1.1	"Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '85, Windows '95"
10175	root	1.387	%
10176	root	1.1	>In unix, one might say 'man 3 crypt'.
10177
10178			Of course, on a Solaris system this won't give you what you want. You
10179			get a message that it can't find the man page for 3. It then prints
10180			the man page for crypt(1).
10181
10182			Of course, all a beginner has to do is figure out that the 3 is the
10183			section number in the Unix manual. He can then use man man to find
10184			that on Solaris one uses -s to specify the section so he'll try
10185
10186			man -s3 crypt
10187
10188			Unfortunately, that doesn't work either. He'll get the message "No
10189			entry for crypt in section(s) 3 of the manual."
10190
10191			If he doesn't give up, he can go back to the manual page for man and
10192			find that the -a switch prints all matching manual pages. Or perhaps
10193			he can figure out to use the command
10194
10195			man -s3 Intro.3
10196
10197			to get a list of everything in section 3. He'll then find out that
10198			crypt is in section 3C so he should use
10199
10200			man -s3c crypt
10201
10202			Gee. I don't understand why beginners have so much trouble with this
10203			stuff. I've only been programming Unix for 15 years and I don't have
10204			any trouble.
10205			--
10206			Michael M Rubenstein
10207	root	1.387	%
10208	root	1.1	Take a moment to consider these lines:
10209
10210			%OVERLOAD=( '""' => sub { join("", @{$_[0]}) } );
10211
10212			sub html { my($type)=shift; bless ["<$type>", @_, "</$type>"]; }
10213
10214			:-) I love Perl 5! Thankyou Larry and Ilya.
10215
10216			Regards,
10217			Tim Bunce.
10218
10219			p.s. If you didn't get it, think about recursive data types: html(html())
10220			p.p.s. I'll turn this into a much more practical example in a day or two.
10221			p.p.p.s. It's a pity that overloads are not inherited. Is this a bug?
10222	root	1.387	%
10223	root	1.1	From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10224
10225			...
10226
10227			> now is evil". This only shows two things: you never looked at the bad
10228			> experiences of the industry where following a rotten design and
10229			> keeping backward compatibility lead to unusable systems. And second:
10230
10231			I worked for 3com. I know eveyrhting about following a rotten design until
10232			its unusable, believe me I do.
10233	root	1.387	%
10234	root	1.1	Ok(slow) -> !NeedComputer
10235
10236			Semour Cray
10237	root	1.387	%
10238	root	1.1	Ullrich Jans at University of Karlsruhe, Germany:
10239
10240			Oh Gott! Es ist voller crons!
10241	root	1.387	%
10242	root	1.1	From: p00h <p00h@MONMOUTH.COM>
10243			Subject: Re: AOL for Windows DoS/Exploit
10244
10245			aol supports PARTIAL html, its like win95's implementation of tcp/ip
10246			it only supports parts of it
10247	root	1.387	%
10248	root	1.1	egcs/gcc/gcse.c:
10249			/* Help stamp out big monolithic functions! */
10250	root	1.387	%
10251	root	1.1	[...] Yes, I'm being sarcastic. Especially regarding HPPA assembler syntax
10252			as provided by HP, which was designed by someone who should not have been
10253			let near a language-design project like that, too often "little languages",
10254			whether assemblers, tools, or C++, are designed by people who are unaware
10255			of, or give little thought to, the outright readability of code written in
10256			the language, in the sense that the basic semantics should be fairly obvious
10257			without the reader having to memorize lots of semantic information.
10258
10259			(In HPPA assembler's case, one glaring stupidity was the nullified branches,
10260			which have completely different semantics depending on whether the label
10261			being branched to happens to assemble to a negative or positive offset! A
10262			smarter design would have required the programmer to specify whether such a
10263			branch was a "forward" or "backward" branch explicitly, then the assembler
10264			and/or linker would complain if reality didn't match the programmer's
10265			specification. I've never looked into whether GNU's HPPA as fixes this
10266			botch; I gather GNU as fixes many botches, though, so it wouldn't surprise
10267			me if it did, even though that might make for some compatibility problems
10268			with existing HP as code.) [...]
10269
10270			tq vm, (burley)
10271	root	1.387	%
10272	root	1.1	libc/posix/regex.h:
10273			/* The following two types have to be signed and unsigned integer type
10274			wide enough to hold a value of a pointer. For most ANSI compilers
10275			ptrdiff_t and size_t should be likely OK. Still size of these two
10276			types is 2 for Microsoft C. Ugh... */
10277			typedef long int s_reg_t;
10278			typedef unsigned long int active_reg_t;
10279	root	1.387	%
10280	root	1.1	libc/db2/db.h:
10281			/*
10282			* While Microsoft's compiler is ANSI C compliant, it doesn't have _STDC_
10283			* defined by default, you specify a command line flag or #pragma to turn
10284			* it on. Don't do that, however, because some of Microsoft's own header
10285			* files won't compile.
10286			*/
10287	root	1.387	%
10288	root	1.1	> UTC variation and begining and ending dates of DST (if observed) would be
10289			> great.
10290
10291			I answered only the places I can comment on.
10292
10293			> BASSAS DA INDIA
10294
10295			This rock is below water half of the time!
10296			If any inhabitants have been there, I do not think they observe DST
10297			on a regular basis! ;-)
10298	root	1.387	%
10299	root	1.1	# ./test-plugin.pl
10300			Bizarre copy of CODE in sassign at /root/.gimp/plug-ins/test-plugin.pl line 40.
10301			wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)
10302	root	1.387	%
10303	root	1.1	>
10304			> The "where do you want to go today?" generation has taken the
10305			> developer out of the "programmer" by removing the vital, development
10306			> tools from the environment and precanning software.
10307
10308			No kidding. Point. Click. Point. Click. Point. Click. Brain Atrophy.
10309	root	1.387	%
10310	root	1.1	Lars Chr Hausmann <36haus@but.auc.dk> writes:
10311
10312			>Hello!
10313
10314			>I have to write something about, what Perl is.
10315			>I need some crystal clear info about, what perl is. So if any of you
10316			>would be so kind just to mail. Then I would be grateful!
10317
10318
10319			Perl.
10320
10321			regards
10322			jobst
10323	root	1.387	%
10324	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Cyrix 6x86MX and Centaur C6 CPUs in 2.1.102
10325			From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10326			Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:31:02 +0100 (BST)
10327
10328			> Well, that depends. They SHOULD be. By Intel 'standards' laff, they have
10329			> to be identical stepping, indicating identical features. However, I've
10330
10331			They don't. Pentiums have fairly strict rules, P6/PII much less. Also Intel
10332			are pretty good at following the MP 1.1/1.4 standard its the motherboard
10333			makers who get it wrong - primarily the BIOS is full of bugs. It appears
10334			nobody tests bios code against specs any more. It looks like they do
10335			compile flash, boot 95, boot NT, ship. The quality of bios code has dived to
10336			the absolute pits.
10337	root	1.387	%
10338	root	1.1	Unix never says `Please.' -- Rob Pike
10339	root	1.387	%
10340	root	1.1	> What about: . scriptname
10341			> ------------------^ this is a dot!
10342
10343			Funny, it looks like a "p" to me.
10344	root	1.387	%
10345	root	1.1	A computer without Microsoft and IBM is like chocolate cake without
10346			ketchup and mustard
10347	root	1.387	%
10348	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Challange for perl `GURUS
10349
10350			vimal gajjar wrote:
10351			>
10352			> Hi there,
10353			> Here is a small challange. Is it possible to have a perl
10354			> code which takes e.g. three parameters as input. time, val1, val2. and
10355			> the name of the prog. is say challange.pl. Now if i execute
10356			> "challange.pl 10 5 2" this perl script wille consume
10357			> 5% of cpu
10358			> 2 Mb of RAM
10359			> for the period of 10 Seconds.
10360			>
10361			> can one of the gurus take this challange?
10362
10363			Examining the 5 copies of this post has consumed 5% of the
10364			brain power I allocate to reviewing c.l.p.m, about 10 seconds, and
10365			has caused the death of 2 million brain cells.
10366	root	1.387	%
10367	root	1.1	> >> /A:You can usually write the program faster than you can
10368			> >> dial/dl/hangup/install/read docs/fix it/fix the fix/.
10369			>
10370			> >s/usually/never/
10371			>
10372			> s/sometimes/never/
10373
10374			Cute. You embarrass yourself by your ignorance of perl.
10375	root	1.387	%
10376	root	1.1	:That's probably true, but I really can't speak to it. But, if there
10377			:were no *nix around, there'd be no Perl. Nor would there be a need for
10378			:Perl, IMO.
10379
10380			Gotta love them JCL and ini dot bat dot bad dot doo dah files.
10381
10382			TC
10383	root	1.387	%
10384	root	1.1	'cc:Mail is a wonderful application, as long as you don't want to read or send mail.'
10385	root	1.387	%
10386	root	1.1	shurik@iron.Te.NeT.UA - Alexandr Dubovikov at TeNeT Networking Centre
10387
10388			Hi guys!
10389
10390			How check socket, alive it or die ?
10391	root	1.387	%
10392	root	1.1	--> Questions not to ask on linux-kernel <--
10393
10394			Miscellaneous flame-wars:
10395			~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
10396			12) The gnome-kde debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
10397			13) The emacs-vi debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
10398			14) Porting linux to run under windows is not interesting.
10399			15) Whether a given intel CISC chip "is really RISC" is not interesting.
10400	root	1.387	%
10401	root	1.1	Subject: what a week!
10402			From: "C. Scott Ananian" <cananian@lcs.mit.edu>
10403			Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 03:13:23 -0400 (EDT)
10404
10405			unicode, boot-logos, GGI, STREAMS, the necessity of a short devel cycle
10406			and the instability of 2.0.x, "ifconfig stopped working", "you really do
10407			need to remove 'encaps'", Linus' tarball practices... it seems like we're
10408			running out of things to flame off on. Here's my humble contribution:
10409
10410			I'VE MADE A KEWL NEW CHARSET THAT I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD USE. IT HAS ALL
10411			THE LETTERS IN MY LOGIN MAPPED TO THE LOWEST 16 CHARACTERS SO WE CAN
10412			COMPRESS THINGS REAL GOOD AND THE LETTERS IN MY BROTHER B1FF'S NAME ARE
10413			ALL IN HIGH ASCII CUZ THAT'S WHERE LOSERS BELONG!!!2!!7
10414
10415			I ONLY USE EMACS AND I THINK VI SUX!!$231!!
10416
10417			GNOME RULES AND KDE IS DEMON-SPAWN BECAUSE IT IS NOT FREE.! !
10418
10419			WE NEED KGI IN THE KERNEL (NOT LIBGGI, NOT THE TERMINAL IMPROVEMENTS
10420			WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED) IN ORDER TO HAVE WAY KEWL BOOT LOGOS AND RUN MY
10421			BROTHER B1FF'S GAMES!!1!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!11!!!
10422
10423			I USE A BIG-ENDIAN MACHINE BECAUSE THEY RULE. LITTLE-ENDIAN MACHINES ARE
10424			EVIL. AND A PENTIUM IS A RISC PROCESSOR!!!
10425
10426			WE SHOULD PORT LINUX TO WINDOWS SO WE CAN USE ALL THE KEWL HARDWARE
10427			DRIVERS!!!!!@@#!
10428
10429			Did I miss any? ;-)
10430
10431			Please don't respond seriously to this email. It's a joke. A joke.
10432			Laugh. Please.
10433
10434			And then let's kill all the flaming threads, shall we?
10435			--Scott
10436	root	1.387	%
10437	root	1.1	> Well, /proc/kcore already reports its actual size...
10438
10439			And it isn't about to change at runtime either. That is the size of
10440			installed memory. I've yet to see a single person successfully insert or
10441			remove a SIMM/DIMM while a machine was running. If they did, and it was
10442			successful, the linux code will update the filesize. ;o)
10443	root	1.387	%
10444	root	1.1	Toby Heywood (toby@he-net.demon.co.uk) wrote:
10445			: This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
10446
10447			One of those 'M's stands for Mail.
10448
10449			This is not mail.
10450
10451			This is Usenet.
10452
10453			Please post only plain text like everyone else does.
10454	root	1.387	%
10455	root	1.1	------------ etienne.lorrain@ibm.net
10456			--- hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
10457			--- ide1: reset: success
10458			-----------> I like Linux !
10459	root	1.387	%
10460	root	1.1	> I have experienced people walking up to my console and saying "What
10461			> the hell does that mean" in sheer terror as the machine boots.
10462
10463			Tell them it's magic, and earn the respect of your colleagues. I always
10464			do.
10465	root	1.387	%
10466	root	1.1	++ Actually, I'm not at a loss for words. Here's one that's very appropriate:
10467			++ PLONK.
10468	root	1.387	%
10469	root	1.1	++ > SSI is not HTML.
10470			Re: Subraumfunk
10471
10472			Ja, ein Handy waere da praktisch. Die hoeheren Gebuehren rechnen sich,
10473			wenn man ueber die Grenzen des Sonnensystems hinaus telefonieren will.
10474
10475			Die Telekom wuerde da wieder mal erbarmungslos abzocken. Ich kann es
10476			mir schon vorstellen: SunSystem-Tarif, vielleicht auch einen
10477			InnerPlanets-Sondertarif, dann einen LocalGroupWeekend-Specialtarif,
10478			eine Supercluster-Zone und so weiter. Und wenn es auf der Venus
10479			schneit, telefonieren alle fuer die Haelfte.
10480	root	1.387	%
10481	root	1.1	> > Vergiss es. Du wirst nie und nimmer von Armando eine
10482			> > konkrete, verwertbare Antwort bekommen.
10483			>
10484			> Doch, man bekommt von mir sogar sehr viele Antworten.
10485
10486			Du hast gerade zwei Adjektive weggelassen.
10487	root	1.387	%
10488	root	1.1	++ Oh yeah. Show me an example of SSI used outside of HTML.
10489			Show me an HTML DTD mentioning SSI directives.
10490	root	1.387	%
10491	root	1.1	Namsuk Kim wrote:
10492			> Is there a way to convert a scalar data to Acii data format?
10493
10494			I am not familar with ACII. If you mean ASCII, then the question I have is
10495			- is the data in EBCDIC now?
10496
10497			Bill Jones
10498	root	1.387	%
10499	root	1.1	GNU/getopt.c:
10500
10501			#if defined (WIN32) && !defined (__CYGWIN32__)
10502			/* It's not Unix, really. See? Capital letters. */
10503			#include <windows.h>
10504			#define getpid() GetCurrentProcessId()
10505			#endif
10506	root	1.387	%
10507	root	1.1	Subject: IIS 4.0, PW32i316, CGI Programs
10508
10509			Perlis.dll does not pass command line arguments correctly via the web. That
10510			is, invoking the URL
10511
10512			http://www.myserver.com/myprogram.pl?Argument1&Argument2...&Argumentn
10513
10514			causes the myprogram.pl to execute, but @ARGV is empty.
10515	root	1.387	%
10516	root	1.1	"You need to use CGI."
10517			"I am using CGI, it's a CGI application!"
10518			"No, no, use CGI. The directive 'use'."
10519			"OK, so what directive do I use?"
10520			"No, no, you use use. Use CGI."
10521			"I am using CGI!"
10522
10523			Craig Berry - cberry@cinenet.net
10524	root	1.387	%
10525	root	1.1	> > Was haltet Ihr von Killfile-mailing-lists, dass sich die Leute mal
10526			> > kennenlernen koennen?
10527			>
10528	root	1.388	> Gute Idee ;-), wäre ich sofort dabei, datrifft man wahrscheinlich ne
10529	root	1.1	> Menge tolle Leute... ;-) und die wahren Freidenker.
10530
10531			Einige Freidenker sicher, aber auch etliche Denkfreie.
10532	root	1.387	%
10533	root	1.1	"I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big or
10534			professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones." -- Linus Torvalds 1991
10535	root	1.387	%
10536	root	1.1	If it's a floppy, it might be a copy.
10537			If it's a disk, you're also at risk.
10538			If it's a pirate, the vendors are irate.
10539			To avoid such frustration, try: Free Software Foundation.
10540	root	1.387	%
10541	root	1.1	From: David Woodhouse <Dave@imladris.demon.co.uk>
10542
10543			pcg@goof.com said:
10544			> It was much more than I usally get! It was _great_
10545
10546			Hehe - I know the feeling.
10547
10548			"It's broken."
10549			"What's wrong with it?."
10550			"I don't know - it just doesn't work."
10551			"Well what do you mean by 'it's broken'?"
10552			"It just doesn't work."
10553			"How can you _tell_ it's broken, for f***'s sake - what are the symptoms!?"
10554			"It gives an error message."
10555			"Would you care to tell me what it says?"
10556			"It says.... something about there being an error."
10557			"That's not very helpful. Tell me it word for word."
10558			"It says 'Unable to handle kernel NULL reference at something or other'"
10559			"That's not word for word. It said 'NULL pointer dereference.' Try again,
10560			letter for letter this time."
10561	root	1.387	%
10562	root	1.1	From: "Paul B. Henson" <henson@INTRANET.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
10563
10564			After installing Solaris 2.6 HW3/98, I discovered that /usr/bin/admintool
10565			had been installed mode 0777, world writable. Under the original release of
10566			2.6, the mode was 04555.
10567
10568			Sun has been notified of the problem. If you're running 2.6 HW3/98, you
10569			might want to verify your admintool hasn't been tampered with and fix the
10570			perms.
10571
10572			(Personally, I'd set them to 0000 ;). admintool? blech.)
10573	root	1.387	%
10574	root	1.1	From: verah@netscape.com (Vera Horiuchi)
10575			Subject: Re: Risp: drama (Re: Do It Yourself)
10576
10577			Americans ignorant of the rest of the world?
10578
10579			I must tell a favorite story here. A friend and I were purchasing a gift
10580			for another friend who lives in Canada. I was speculating out loud about
10581			how much duty our Canadian friend would have to pay.
10582
10583			The cashier said, "Oh, I'm sure Canadians don't have to pay any duty. We
10584			ship to Hawaii all the time, and _they_ don't have to pay duty." =:-0
10585	root	1.387	%
10586	root	1.388	>am besten ist z.Z. das Buch von Michael Neufeld. Wer aber Wissenslücken
10587			>verspürt (was keine Schande ist), sollte diese zu stopfen suchen und nicht
10588	root	1.1	>Zuflucht zu absolut hirnrissigen Theorien suchen.
10589
10590			Hirnrissig bist Du. Das es einen Zeittransfer aus der Zukunft zu den Nazis
10591			gab deckt sich mit dazu passenden Entschluesselungen bestimmter Bibelstellen
10592			und mit der dann tatsaechlichen notwendigen Geheimhaltung. Es deckt sich
10593			ueberdies damit, dass die Unterhaltung uns den Gedanken zunehmend nahelegt,
10594			also vorbereitet, und dass es bereits ein wissenschaftliches Experiment gab,
10595			bei dem ERST die Wirkung auftrat und DANN die Ursache. Die Zeitreise ist
10596			also Fakt. Und es ist sicher, dass Jemand per Zeitreise den Nazis helfen
10597			wollte. Gelegentliche Theorien, dass auch diese ausserirdische Hilfe gehabt
10598			haetten sollen nur davon ablenken, eine andere Erklaerung liefern. Das ist
10599			logisch, denn die Taeter sitzen ja irgendwo in unserer Zeit und moechten
10600			sicher nicht erkannt werden.
10601
10602			Du scheinst die simpelsten Grundzuege der Zeitlogik nicht verstehen zu wollen.
10603
10604			normarz@aol.com
10605	root	1.387	%
10606	root	1.1	>Oder anders gesagt:
10607	root	1.388	>Glaubst Du, Du könntest mit einem hochmodernen Maschinengewehr eine römische
10608	root	1.1	>Legion
10609			>schlagen?
10610
10611			Klar. Frage mal Cortez.
10612
10613			Bye
10614			Andreas
10615	root	1.387	%
10616	root	1.1	>Article 2B is a threat to anyone who uses a computer. I just wanted to
10617
10618			It may be a threat to any american using a computer. Fortunately, the U.S.
10619			justice does not yet apply outside the U.S.A.
10620
10621			I.a.W.: You're currently creating a lot of happy non-U.S. software
10622			companies.
10623
10624			Kind regards
10625			Henning
10626	root	1.387	%
10627	root	1.1	From: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>
10628			Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:14:11 -0700
10629			Subject: Re: driver for Creative Labs DVD kits
10630
10631			At least with the IDE DVD drive that I have, plugging it directly
10632			into an IDE port and using the regular Linux ide-cd driver works just fine
10633			for reading [...] CD and the [not] copy protected sections of the DVD's.
10634
10635			There is a protocol that the hardware decoder boards use to
10636			tell the DVD drive that they are a licensed implementation and should
10637			be allowed to read the copy protected sectors as well. I have been
10638			told that this protocol can be done entirely in software with a
10639			standard IDE port. Hopefully, somebody will reverse engineer this and
10640			make it a demand loaded kernel module. (Seriously, there is a lot
10641			that you are allowed to do with copyrighted material that this sort of
10642			hardware restriction prevents, and there are other important political
10643			issues involved relating to your rights to do as you please with the
10644			computer equipment that you bought and paid for.)
10645	root	1.387	%
10646	root	1.1	Where do you want to go today?
10647			We might support that sometime next year.
10648			-=- Microsoft
10649			(But I doubt it.)
10650			-=- Me
10651			-=- James Mastros
10652	root	1.387	%
10653	root	1.1	Hello570 <hello570@aol.com> wrote:
10654			> I tried printing a line to a file using both of the
10655			> following methods, but the output was split into two
10656			>lines.
10657
10658			If you don't want newlines in the middle of your string, then don't
10659			put newlines in the middle of your string.
10660	root	1.387	%
10661	root	1.1	http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/Dean_Roehrich/subjects.post
10662	root	1.387	%
10663	root	1.1	Einstein himself said that God doesn't roll dice. But he was wrong. And
10664			in fact, anyone who has played role-playing games knows that God
10665			probably had to roll quite a few dice to come up with a character like
10666			Einstein. -- Larry Wall
10667	root	1.387	%
10668	root	1.1	From: Ragnar Hojland Espinosa <root@lightside.ddns.org>
10669
10670			My $0.02 Euros on internationalization? I'm in Spain and my keyboard is
10671			mosty US mapped because the Spanish map is really awkward for programming.
10672			Computers were designed to be funcional, not politically (or locally)
10673			correct (hm, I don't think HAL ever spoke Russian). This "computers are easy
10674			for all" GUI related trend has done a lot of money, and lot of damage; at
10675			least command line OSes forced the user to actually learn something and
10676			absorb information. The user assumed so, so he did. Now he doesn't, and
10677			it's not all his fault.
10678
10679			The WWW is full of useless (and ugly) graphics, of useless links to links to
10680			pages with links to links which usually end up in a huge links page. Of
10681			course, there are some jewels.. but they should be majority! It's
10682			understandable, when the tools and languages focus more on aspect that in
10683			content.
10684
10685			Usenet is worse than ever, the interesting places have been ruined by
10686			spammers, c00l hak3rz, and more and more people asking (or demanding) for
10687			others doing their homework.. at least some time ago they were willing to
10688			learn (or pay for it;)
10689
10690			IRC.. heh. The few times I've been on funet almost all I found is the same
10691			people in the above paragraph. And I do know some of them even run scripts
10692			to try denial of service or other destructive attacks on people they see,
10693			just for fun or to get the op.
10694
10695			Email. Someone selling an "incredible program that allows you to bypass
10696			your ISP mail server, for only $89" (thats right, a smtp server). No OS
10697			mentioned, I somehow can guess which. And that stupid thing of sending
10698			mail to people in RTF and HTML format.. I'm gonna answer them in LaTeX.
10699
10700			Internet, your ilimited junk yard.
10701
10702			Using computers would make me real sad if it wasn't for UNIX and, of
10703			course, Linux and Linux people.
10704	root	1.387	%
10705	root	1.1	... WNT == ++VMS . Literally. Dave Cutler created VMS,
10706			then he rewrote it as WNT.
10707
10708			Ever used VMS? It's a step above DOS. Barely.
10709			--
10710			Clark O. Morgan cmorgan@aracnet.com
10711	root	1.387	%
10712	root	1.1	>Subject: If "=~" means match what is doesn't match?
10713
10714			I heard that a friend of a friend might have once been told about a
10715			rumor that this information can be found in perlop, right next to
10716			where =~ is documented. (It's !~)
10717
10718			I agree with Tom's assessment that the fall of modern man will be
10719			preceded by the de-evolution of communications to the days of oral
10720			tradition.
10721	root	1.387	%
10722	root	1.1	"Windows 95, the most installed system in the world,
10723			I know, I've done it 5 or 6 times myself"
10724	root	1.387	%
10725	root	1.1	The statistics programming language S, from AT&T, combines lazy
10726			evaluation with imperative programming. A nightmare.
10727	root	1.387	%
10728	root	1.1	"In 1965, as part of a research and development project for the
10729			U.S. Army, engineers at TRW Corp developed a software program
10730			called Generalized Information Retrieval Lanaguage and System."
10731			Or GIRLS for short.
10732	root	1.387	%
10733	root	1.1	Wissen bremst die Meinungsbildung voll aus.
10734	root	1.387	%
10735	root	1.1	I have an idea: Anybody who posts an URGENT! or EMERGENCY! request should
10736			post the circumstances behind the urgency. "I was having sex with my
10737			mistress in the server room and I knocked the Linux box over and the hard
10738			drive crashed and so I've reinstalled everything but I still can't get
10739			5_004_03 to build!"
10740
10741			This would inspire me to action far more than the implied subtext of "I
10742			have no patience."
10743
10744			xoxo,
10745			Andy
10746	root	1.387	%
10747	root	1.1	> I have Perl5 running on my pc.
10748			> and also front page98 and microsoft personal web server runnig.
10749			We all have our cross to bear.
10750	root	1.387	%
10751	root	1.1	(THIS IS LONG, YOU MAY WANT TO SKIP)
10752
10753			From: mjd@plover.com (Mark-Jason Dominus)
10754			Date: 09 Nov 1995 02:57:30 GMT
10755			Subject: Re: system() question
10756
10757			There are a lot of reasons, many of which get repeated over and
10758			over again, many of which don't. Some of the reasons you hear a lot
10759			are: Questions are incoherently phrased. Questions have the form 'My
10760			code doesn't work' and don't include the code. Questions include the
10761			code, and it's 200 lines long, and comp.lang.perl is not a debugging
10762			service. Nobody knows the answer to the question. The question is so
10763			badly punctuated that nobody can bear to read it. Questions aer
10764			written by a non-native speaker of English and the native speakers who
10765			are trying to understand it can't. (That's a shame, but it does
10766			happen. I often wish that these people would post in their native
10767			languages. I'd love to see more discussion in languages other than
10768			English. Some Dutch guy tried posting all his comp.lang.c articles in
10769			Dutch a few years ago, and all the Americans flamed him. How
10770			humiliating for me!)
10771
10772			Apart from these oft-mentioned reasons are many others that are
10773			not so often discussed, because anyone who tries to bring them up gets
10774			flamed. But it's the truth: I know the reason I don't answer more
10775			questions is because so many of them questions are so damn stupid.
10776			They're stupid in a lot of different ways, but they're still stupid.
10777			I don't want to suggest that that's why your questions go unanswered.
10778			I don't know what you're asking. No doubt the reason your questions
10779			go unanswered is because they're so deep and interesting that nobody
10780			really knows the answer.
10781
10782			The most common stupid question is the one from someone who has
10783			some high-level problem that they need solved. They have an idea that
10784			they'd like to do it in perl, and they don't really know perl. So
10785			instead of learning perl, they post to comp.lang.perl.misc.
10786
10787			Now don't get me wrong. I don't have any problems answering the
10788			questions of someone who's trying to learn perl. I love THOSE
10789			qusetions. But these people don't seem to be asking useful questions
10790			for that.
10791
10792			Today, for example, I saw a question from a guy who wants to get a
10793			list of hostnames out of nslookup. `How do I do that?' he says. And
10794			it's hard to know what to make of that. What does he mean? Does he
10795			not know how to open a pipe? Is his en' command failing? What's
10796			going on here? I can't give a useful answer without understanding the
10797			problem. Having your en' fail is a problem. Wanting to list
10798			hostnames is not a problem; it's a desire.
10799
10800			Here are some similar questions that would have made more sense to me:
10801
10802			1. `I'm a lazy asshole and I can't be bothered to learn to
10803			program myself, but I know if I post here you'll give me
10804			something for free.''
10805
10806			(OK, fair enough. At least I can send him a rate card.)
10807
10808			2. `I'm trying to use en' to talk to nslookup, but...
10809			...here's my code; what's wrong?''
10810
10811			(Good question.)
10812
10813			3. `I know perl has a `System' command for running programs,
10814			but I can't see how to get my commands into nslookup
10815			once I have run it.''
10816			(Good question.)
10817
10818			4. `I'm trying to use `Getprotobynumber' to talk to nslookup...''
10819
10820			(Good question.)
10821
10822			See, I'm not just biting people's heads off, here. #4 is a good
10823			question, because it gives me something to work with. OK, he has a
10824			very weird idea about interprocess communication, but that's
10825			ignorance, and that's what we're here to correct. He doesn't know
10826			about en'; I can refer him to the manual.
10827
10828			Here's another example: Some guy wants to assemble a list of email
10829			addresses . `How do I do that?'' he wants to know. Well, duh. Get a
10830			big pad of paper and read news for a couple days and write down all
10831			the addresses you see. Problem solved. What's it doing in
10832			comp.lang.perl?
10833			Oh, you wanted to do it in perl. Well, I guess I'd open a socket
10834			to the NNTP server and send it some XHDR commands for the `From'
10835			lines. But that's not Perl; you could do that in any language. I
10836			could do it in Bourne Shell for you if I'm allowed to use a little
10837			external thingie to handle the socket parts for me. What's it doing
10838			in comp.lang.perl?
10839
10840			Oh, you wanted us to write the program for you? Wait, let me send
10841			you my rate card.
10842
10843			Someone posted yesterday asking how to get the data from a file where
10844			the start and end of the data is marked by keywords. Same thing going on
10845			here. `Well, here's how you solve your problem: First you go take an
10846			introductory class in programming and learn to write programs in some
10847			language. Then you go to the bookstore and buy this book by Wall and
10848			Schwartz, it's really good. Read the book carefully and try out the
10849			examples. Then if you still have general questions like `How do I do this'
10850			instead of thought that this code would do X but instead it does Y' you hire
10851			a professional to write your program for you. Or you could just skip right
10852			to step 3. Want my rate card?''
10853
10854			The worst stupid questions are the ones that come from people who
10855			have no business asking them. The most perfect example of this that I
10856			could have imagined was in comp.unix.questions a couple of years ago.
10857			Some guy came and asked how you could tell if a file is a hard link.
10858			My jaw flapped open and it's stayed open since then. I couldn't have
10859			been any more stumped if he'd asked why Bodhidharma came from the
10860			West. What do you say to this guy? Do you tell him the truth, that
10861			all files are hard links, that even symbolic links are hard links?
10862			He's not going to understand you; you might as well keep your mouth
10863			shut. Do you tell him the truth, that the answer won't do him any
10864			good because he doesn't know what a hard link is, so why did he bother
10865			asking in the first place? No, that'll just make him mad. I followed
10866			that message for the next couple weeks, and nobody said anything.
10867			What could you say? The guy had no business asking the question and
10868			no use for the answer. Maybe the right answer would have been to cut
10869			off his finger or something. I dunno.
10870
10871			Some questions get ignored because they're boring. Someone asked
10872			today how to compare two variables (I assumme he means the contents of
10873			those variables) to see if they're exactly the same. You've gotta be
10874			in an awfully good mood to take the time to answer that. Maybe
10875			someone will. Maybe I will.
10876
10877			If I answer that one today, maybe he'll be back tomorrow asking
10878			how to check to see if two variables contain different values. Maybe
10879			I won't. What I find incredible is that if you tell these people to
10880			go read the manual and come back in two weeks, you sometimes get
10881			jumped on for not being helpful to beginners. Bah. If everyone told
10882			these people to go read the manual, they'd eventually figure out that
10883			that's what you have to do ,and then I wouldn't have to spend so much
10884			of my life dealing with incompetent programmers.
10885
10886			Some questions are logically nonsensical because the querent
10887			thinks they know more than they do. A lot of these have the form
10888			`How do I use X to accomplish Y?'' There's nothing wrong with this,
10889			except that sometimes X is a chocolate-covered banana and Y is the
10890			integration of European currency systems. I always get stuck on
10891			these, probably because I can't get rid of the idea that the person
10892			really has a good reason for wanting to use X. I know a half-dozen
10893			easy simple ways to accomplish Y, but I can't imagine what X has to do
10894			with it. This is a problem for me in my day job, too. Clients are
10895			always saying to me `We want to use product X to do multimedia
10896			development on the world-wide web,'' and all I can think is `Well,
10897			gee, what would you want to go and do that for?'' Sometimes it turns
10898			out that they want to do it because they want to impress the
10899			manufacturers of X, and I don't work on those jobs.
10900
10901			The flip side of this is a questions like `I want to accomplish
10902			X, but I don't want to use Y. What can I use instead?'' Which,
10903			again, is sometimes reasonable, and then sometimes X is closing a
10904			filehandle and Y is the `Close' function.
10905
10906			The questions I like the best are the ones that go like this:
10907
10908			`I want to accomplish X.
10909
10910			I thought that the following code fragment would do it:
10911
10912			...
10913
10914			But instead it does Y.
10915
10916			Why is that?''
10917
10918			This one is also pretty good:
10919
10920			`I want to accomplish X.
10921			I thought I might be able to use facility Y.
10922
10923			But Y doesn't seem like it's quite right,
10924			because of Z.
10925
10926			What should I use instead of Y, or how can I overcome Z?''
10927
10928			When I ignore these, it's usually because I don't know the answer.
10929			There were an awful lot of them today. It makes me very happy.
10930
10931
10932			There you go; a 160-line dissertation on why questions go unanswered.
10933			Now don't let me hear you saying nobody ever answers your questions.
10934
10935			--
10936			Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
10937			The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
10938	root	1.387	%
10939	root	1.1	>> BTW, would it be easier to cope with international text using Python?
10940			>Sigh... you're breaking my heart. Ask Jack Jansen, he probably knows.
10941
10942			If I were really evel, I would point out that the newest TCL (8.1) has
10943			support for international character sets and Unicode. But then, mentioning
10944			TCL in this newsfroup would be really bad. So, of course, I don't do that.
10945
10946			Ups. I'm so sorry ... ;-)
10947
10948			bye, Georg
10949	root	1.387	%
10950	root	1.1	I personally do not believe in object orientation as a security model
10951			(nor as a general programming paradigm), but feel free to try to
10952			convince me.
10953
10954			[ Or maybe I confuse you with somebody else and some other posting ]
10955
10956			Linus
10957	root	1.387	%
10958	root	1.1	++ how can i strip new lines out at var.
10959			++
10960
10961			Removing new lines is very tricky, as the manual tells you so. Ignore the
10962			complicated things in the manual, and put in this neat little trick:
10963
10964	root	1.85	$var=join+q,,,grep{ord$[[qq$\137$]]<10 or+10<ord}split+q,,,$var;
10965	root	1.1
10966			If you're old enough not to read the manual, you won't have a problem
10967			understanding the above line.
10968
10969			Abigail
10970	root	1.387	%
10971	root	1.1	I fixed the problem by mounting the SCO volume on the SunOS box, and since
10972			1995 the problem has gone away together with the SCO machine.
10973	root	1.387	%
10974	root	1.1	++ Hi Does anybody know how to upload many graphic files at the push of a
10975			++ button?
10976			Yes.
10977
10978			++ 100 pictures or so?
10979			Yes.
10980
10981			++ Can I do it in Perl?
10982			Yes.
10983
10984			Your question isn't Perl specific. Please ask in the relevant
10985			newsgroup. alt.button.play
10986
10987			Abigail
10988	root	1.387	%
10989	root	1.1	perly gates - The way to perl; Enter hackerdom.
10990
10991			perly Gates - Contradictio in Terminis.
10992
10993			Martien
10994	root	1.387	%
10995	root	1.388	Ren hat weder von Sinnhaftigkeit noch von Kausalität geschrieben, sondern
10996			nur von Logik. Logik und Kausalität sind in unserem (normalen) Denken zwar
10997			eng miteinander verknüpft, sind aber nicht dasselbe. Sinn ist hingegen noch
10998			etwas Drittes und ganz verschiedenes! "Sinn" bedeutet mindestens, daß eine
10999	root	1.1	Sache eine gewisse Richtung hat, wie in "Uhrzeigersinn". Meistens bedeutet
11000	root	1.388	Sinn aber, daß eine Sache einen bestimmten Zweck erfüllt. Auch darf man
11001			nicht "verursachen" mit "begründen" verwechseln, weil die beiden
11002			unterschiedlich sind. Die Existenz muß auch keinen Sinn haben, um eine
11003			Ursache zu haben. Das sind zwei völlig voneinander unabhängige Sachen. Die
11004	root	1.1	Existenz hat einen Sinn, also eine Richtung, wenn wir unserer Existenz eine
11005	root	1.388	Richtung geben. Dieser Sinn kann auf etwas abzielen, was außerhalb unserer
11006			selbst steht, muß aber nicht... Sie kann auch einen Sinn haben, der schon da
11007	root	1.1	war, bevor wir uns danach ausgerichtet haben - von all dem schreibt Ren aber
11008			nicht. ;)
11009
11010	root	1.388	Worauf Ren wohl hinaus wollte, ist, daß wenn die Logik des begrenzten Raumes
11011			nicht gilt, daß dann die Logik schlechthin hinfällig wird und so jedes Sein
11012			fragwürdig wird. Das ist aber nicht der Fall, da die Logik, die er von den
11013	root	1.1	Grenzen des Raumes aufstellt, gar keine wirkliche Logik ist, sondern nur die
11014			Grenzen des menschlichen Verstandes zeigt. Er kann sich nicht vorstellen,
11015	root	1.388	daß außerhalb der Grenzen des Raumes "Nichts" ist, weil man sich als Mensch
11016	root	1.1	das Nichts nicht vorstellen kann.
11017
11018	root	1.388	Darüber hinaus meinte er, daß die "Existenz unlogisch" würde. Dieser Satz
11019			ist vollkommen unverständlich. Denn entweder ist etwas, oder es ist nicht.
11020	root	1.1	Das ist auch schon die ganze Logik einer Existenz. (Aristoteles: Satz vom
11021	root	1.388	ausgeschlossenen Dritten) Unlogisch wäre, wenn etwas ist, das nicht ist oder
11022	root	1.1	wenn etwas nicht ist, das ist.
11023
11024	root	1.388	Von der Unfähigkeit des Menschen, sich einen unbegrenzten aber endlichen
11025	root	1.1	Raum (oder wie auch immer der Weltraum nun aussieht) vorzustellen auf die
11026	root	1.388	"Unlogik der Existenz" zu schließen, ist aber wohl nicht ganz möglich, zumal
11027			eine Existenz nicht unlogisch sein kann. Was sollte das auch heißen? Daher
11028	root	1.1	ist das Problem, das Ren aufwirft, nur ein Scheinproblem. Die Existenz an
11029	root	1.388	sich wird nicht in Frage gestellt dadurch, daß man sich etwas - egal was -
11030	root	1.1	nicht vorstellen kann. Er verwechselt die Begriffe "unlogisch" und
11031			"unvorstellbar".
11032
11033			Thomas.Decker@lrz.uni-muenchen.de
11034	root	1.387	%
11035	root	1.1	Marcel Richter wrote:
11036			> Marcel Richter - IQ: 3538327
11037			^^^
11038			fehlt da nicht irgendwo ein Komma.... =?-)
11039	root	1.387	%
11040	root	1.1	The X server has to be the biggest program I've ever seen that doesn't
11041			do anything for you. --Ken Thompson
11042	root	1.387	%
11043	root	1.1	linux-2.1.92/fs/autofs/root.c:
11044			printk("autofs: trying to recover, but prepare for Armageddon\n");
11045	root	1.387	%
11046	root	1.1	>>Vincent DiPietro, the discoverer of the face on mars, has thrown in
11047			>>the towel, and said that the face on mars is a pile of rocks.
11048			>Was sollte es denn sonst sein?
11049
11050			An artificial pile of rocks.
11051	root	1.387	%
11052	root	1.1	> ps: mal nebenbei: eine unbekannte variable beim analysieren des
11053			> marsgesichtes ist es, dass mensch gar nicht weiss, wie die lebende,
11054			> gedachte oder sonstige vorlage eigentlich aussieht. dazu kommt natuerlich
11055			> noch das fehlende wissen um die intention des "kuenstlers", ob er
11056			> beispielsweise nur aspekte bzw. partien eines gesichtes integrieren wollte
11057			> - und natuerlich, ob es ueberhaupt kunst ist:)
11058
11059			Ganz genau. Und das Matterhorn ist eine palaeoimpressionistische Studie des
11060			Geruchsorgans der Rasse der Ciabattanimalier. Aber das wussten hier
11061			sicherlich schon alle. Das ganze Universum ist ausserdem eigentlich nur ein
11062			grosser Flipperautomat.
11063
11064			Christoph Schulte Moenting - ubec@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
11065	root	1.387	%
11066	root	1.1	> Kris Weilemann schrieb
11067			>
11068			> >MIR ging es neulich aehnlich. Ich wurde von Ausserirdischen entfuehrt.
11069			> >Ich wurde eingesperrt in einem dunklem Raum mit langen Sitzreihen und mit
11070			> >einer Popcorn-artigen Substanz gefuettert. Nach 2 Stunden war alles
11071			> >vorbei. Einen Tag spaeter stellte ich fest, dass mir 18 Mark im
11072			> >Geldbeutel fehlten. Ist das nicht krass? -Kris.
11073	root	1.387	%
11074	root	1.388	... Jazz ist nicht nur das erfolgreichste, sondern auch das einzige originäre Kunstgenre,
11075			daß die USA jemals hervorgebracht haben.
11076	root	1.1
11077			"Apropos Musik", HR2 am 16.4.98
11078	root	1.387	%
11079	root	1.1	http://www.rsw.com/
11080
11081			The Unix shell as a 4GL
11082
11083			Unix provides hundreds of programs that can be piped together to easily
11084			perform almost any function imaginable. Nothing comes close to providing the
11085			functions that come standard with Unix. Programs and philosophies carried
11086			over from other systems put walls between the user and Unix, and the power
11087			of Unix is thrown away. The shell, extended with a few relational operators,
11088			is the fourth generation database scripting language most appropriate to the
11089			Unix environment.
11090	root	1.387	%
11091	root	1.1	Perl is incredibly difficult to parse. For example, what's the difference
11092			between these:
11093
11094			time /3 ;#/; print "hello";
11095			sin /3 ;#/; print "goodbye";
11096
11097			Right. The first one is time divided by 3, and the print is in a comment.
11098			The second one is the sin of the result of a regular expression match for "3
11099			;#", and the print gets executed!
11100
11101			There's no pure BNF in the world that'll handle that. And remember, with
11102			"use" and prototypes available, whether you parse something like "sin" or
11103			"time" depends on its definition in some other file, somewhere in the galaxy
11104			(or even decided by Perl code in a BEGIN block, that evals a prototype!).
11105
11106			Which led Larry to say at one point: "the only thing that can parse Perl is
11107			'perl'".
11108
11109			--
11110			Randal L. Schwartz
11111	root	1.387	%
11112	root	1.1	Ronald J Kimball <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu> writes:
11113
11114			> Pascal AMRAM wrote:
11115			> > Subject: MSEXCHANGE / OUTLOOK
11116			>
11117			> So here I am trying to figure out what an M sex change is....
11118
11119			It's obviously the opposite of an F sex change. HTH.
11120
11121			--
11122			Jonathan Feinberg jdf@pobox.com Sunny Brooklyn, NY
11123	root	1.387	%
11124	root	1.1	The management (my cats) made me say this.
11125	root	1.387	%
11126	root	1.1	uae-0.6.9/custom.c:800:
11127			write_log ("Program is torturing BPLCON1.\n");
11128	root	1.387	%
11129	root	1.1	uae-0.6.9/src/memory.c:363
11130			write_log ("Your Amiga program just did something terribly stupid\n");
11131	root	1.387	%
11132	root	1.1	Closures make sense in any programming language where you
11133			can have the return value of a function be itself a
11134			function, as you can in Perl. Note that some languages
11135			provide anonymous functions but are not capable of
11136			providing proper closures; the Python language, for
11137			example.
11138	root	1.387	%
11139	root	1.1	When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to
11140			resemble a nail.
11141	root	1.387	%
11142	root	1.1	> but all I get are 501 errors, method not supported. I am not 100% sure what
11143			> I did wrong.
11144
11145			What you did wrong was post a microsoft server question to a perl
11146			newsgroup.
11147	root	1.387	%
11148	root	1.1	I am trying to learn Perl on my Windows 97 system. In particular...
11149	root	1.387	%
11150	root	1.388	>Es kamen Außerirdische, die Pyramiden bauten und andere Wunder
11151			>vollbrachten. Dafür wurden sie vergöttert. Diese außerirdischen bauten dann
11152	root	1.1	>wahrscheinlich auch die Cydonia Region.
11153
11154			Etwa zehnmal zu oft 'Stargate' gesehen, was?
11155	root	1.387	%
11156	root	1.388	>Die Menschheit kämpft seit Millionen von Jahren gegeneinander.
11157	root	1.1
11158	root	1.388	Welche Hälfte ist denn da die grössere? :o)
11159	root	1.387	%
11160	root	1.1	...am still rebuilding after being hit with a clock changing virus it reset
11161			my clock to 2039 unfortunately for me my OS is beta 98 needless to say it
11162			expired instantly!!!
11163	root	1.387	%
11164	root	1.1	From: Per Bothner <bothner@cygnus.com>
11165			To: Pal Engstad <engstad@hunt.inmet.com>
11166
11167			> Linus Torvalds requires that all code in the source is using a tab
11168			> length of 8 spaces, and he also states that you are a bad programmer
11169			> if you write code with more than 3 indentation levels.
11170
11171			I didn't know that Linus Torvalds has done research on programming styles.
11172			He much have, since why else would you have the audacity quote him as
11173			an authority, on a list where there are dozens of people with more
11174			than double Linus's programming experience?
11175
11176			> This has caused the code to be fairly easy to read and maintainance is
11177			> pretty straight forward.
11178
11179			Irrelevant - a kernel is a lot simpler than an optimizing compiler,
11180			in terms of complexity of algorithms and data structures.
11181	root	1.387	%
11182	root	1.1	Nach der Diskussion muss ich akzeptieren, dass die juengst erfolgte
11183			Erdbeschleunigung von - 0,6 auf - 0,4 Millisekunden kein zwingender Beweis
11184			fuer einen Permanentantrieb ist. Aber: In letzter Zeit kommt es bei mir immer
11185			wieder vor, dass ich Dinge einfach weiss. Selbst wenn ich sie nicht begruenden
11186			kann. Ich weiss trotzdem dass sie stimmen muessen und der Antrieb existiert.
11187			Mit der Zeit findet sich dann auch die Begruendung.
11188	root	1.387	%
11189	root	1.1	Wir suchen neue AussenMitarbeiterInnen... (S.Pernar@Link-Goe)
11190	root	1.387	%
11191	root	1.1	hyperltext (hy'perl-text), n. double-quotish-interpolated hypertext markup:
11192			Example:
11193			print qq[[<LI><A HREF="$self->[[url]]">@[[[ucfirst $self->[[title]]]]]</A>\n]];
11194	root	1.387	%
11195	root	1.1	liperlsuction: What happens to any script longer than 10 lines once
11196			Randal gets his hands on it
11197	root	1.387	%
11198	root	1.1	Uperl Volta - country where perl programmers control the electricity.
11199	root	1.387	%
11200	root	1.1	> Anybody successfully installed the win32 version of Perl?
11201
11202			No! Millions of people don't use perl on win32 machines. You may be the
11203			first if you get it working.
11204	root	1.387	%
11205	root	1.1	> Macintosh.
11206			> Think different.
11207
11208			Think Again.
11209	root	1.387	%
11210	root	1.1	Bill.Cilnton@dyselxia.com
11211	root	1.387	%
11212	root	1.1	tsatan@hotmail.com writes:
11213			> Why does perl have the "push" and "unshift" functions? ...
11214			> push @nums, 4; is the same as @nums = (@nums, 4);
11215
11216			What do you want, Scheme? ;)
11217	root	1.387	%
11218	root	1.1	# There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'.
11219			# It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
11220	root	1.387	%
11221	root	1.1	\| I am returning this otherwise good typing paper to you because
11222			\| someone has printed gibberish all over it and put your name at the
11223			\| top.
11224	root	1.387	%
11225	root	1.1	I had a student ask about the UN9 operating system. I didn't understabd what
11226			he was talking about so he wrote UNIX on the board.
11227	root	1.387	%
11228	root	1.1	On 1 Apr 98 17:34:23 GMT, Schulung7 wrote:
11229			^^^^^^^^^
11230			>Was haltet ihr vom UFO-Absturz in Rosswell?
11231
11232			Nichts. Und jetzt geh woanders spielen.
11233	root	1.387	%
11234	root	1.1	>Kann man hier irgendwie mal die UFOs reinbringen, um die es in dieser NG
11235			>gehen soll?
11236
11237	root	1.388	Nein, der Datentyp wäre inkompatibel. UFOs sind per Definitionem
11238	root	1.1	materielle Objekte (obwohl das zur Zeit fraglich ist ;-), die sich in
11239			diesem Medium nicht austauschen lassen.
11240	root	1.387	%
11241	root	1.1	Wer redet hier denn von der "Hui Hui"? Ich sprach von "Hui! Hui!".
11242	root	1.387	%
11243	root	1.388	>> nein...ist kein Sender. Eine taiwanesische Sekte hat behauptet, daß am
11244			>> 25.3. auf allen TVs der Welt Gott auf Kanal 18 erscheinen würde.
11245	root	1.1	>> Ist natuerlich nicht eingetreten.
11246			>
11247			>Aber unsere Haus-Sat-Anlage geht seither nicht mehr.
11248
11249			Ein Zeichen! Er hat uns ein Zeichen gegeben! Zieht alle euren linken
11250			Schuh aus!
11251	root	1.387	%
11252	root	1.1	>Klingt nach Erdstillstand.
11253
11254	root	1.388	Ich bin entsetzt. Man hat hoffentlich sofort Wiederbedrehungsmaßnahmen
11255	root	1.1	eingeleitet?
11256	root	1.387	%
11257	root	1.1	Mars Global Surveyor Imaging Schedule
11258
11259
11260			First opportunity
11261			Approximate
11262			Orbit Internet
11263			Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11264
11265			4-3-98 09:58/1:58 a.m. 216 Viking Lander 1 April 6
11266			4-3-98 21:37/1:37 p.m. 217 Viking Lander 2 April 7
11267			4-4-98 09:16/1:16 a.m. 218 Mars Pathfinder April 7
11268			4-5-98 08:33/12:33 a.m. 220 Cydonia April 6 (mid-a.m.)
11269
11270			Second opportunity
11271			Approximate
11272			Orbit Internet
11273			Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11274
11275			4-12-98 15:23/ 8:23 a.m. 235 Viking Lander 1 April 14
11276			4-13-98 03:01/ 8:01 p.m. 236 Viking Lander 2 April 15
11277			4-13-98 14:40/ 7:40 a.m. 237 Mars Pathfinder April 15
11278			4-14-98 13:57/ 6:57 a.m. 239 Cydonia April 14 (mid-p.m.)
11279
11280			Third opportunity
11281			Approximate
11282			Orbit Internet
11283			Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11284
11285			4-21-98 20:45/1:45 p.m. 254 Viking Lander 1 April 23
11286			4-22-98 08:23/1:23 a.m. 255 Viking Lander 2 April 24
11287			4-22-98 20:02/1:02 p.m. 256 Mars Pathfinder April 24
11288			4-23-98 19:18/12:18 p.m. 258 Cydonia April 24 (mid-a.m.)
11289
11290	root	1.387	%
11291	root	1.1	> >2. Der Menschheit ist durch Inzucht entstanden. Laut biologischem
11292	root	1.388	> >Wissen, unwahrscheinlich, da Mutation und Mißbildungen auftreten
11293			> >würden.
11294	root	1.1	>
11295			> Vermutung: Das ist auch aufgetreten. Siehe levitische "Gesetze" zur
11296			> "Behandlung" von "Aussatz" insb. im 3. "Mose". Die hatten schon Probleme.
11297			Sag mal, bei Dir piepts wohl nicht mehr richtig! Aussatz, heute besser
11298			unter dem Namen Lepra bekannt, ist keine Erbkrankheit. Es ist eine
11299			(heute heilbare) Infektionskrankheit, verursacht durch Bakterien.
11300			Also nichts von Inzucht, wie Du das in Deinem latenten Rassenwahn
11301			implizierst.
11302	root	1.387	%
11303	root	1.1	> You might please start up with reading more than one sentence - a skill
11304			> quite familiar in Europe, but as it seems not in the USA.
11305	root	1.387	%
11306	root	1.1	Yup. Instead of crashing Xservers, now you have crashing kernels.
11307			Big improvement.
11308	root	1.387	%
11309	root	1.1	-- "Hey look, this new card is for windows and only $xx!"
11310			-- "Yes, but it's braindead and will hurt your performance. Take that one
11311			over there. Besides, it's not an ope.."
11312			-- "Why that one?"
11313			-- "Because it's better, sinc.."
11314			-- "But I can do the same with this one, it's cheaper, and its for windows!"
11315	root	1.387	%
11316	root	1.1	In der Klinik, in der ich mal arbeiten musste, hatten wir einen echten
11317			Koenig Ludwig II und mindestens fuenf Stueck Jesus - sowas gibts halt,
11318			wenn Du verstehst, was ich meine.
11319	root	1.387	%
11320	root	1.1	> Hast Du mal einen Stein beobachtet, der eine Unzahl komplexer
11321			> Vorgaenge paresentiert, einschliesslich der Hervorbringung
11322			> etlicher Lebensformen?
11323
11324			Jepp. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "zahlreich".
11325
11326			> Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der sich mal eben
11327			> "verwandelt", und auf dem dann lauter Wesen rumkrabbeln,
11328			> die aus ihm selbst entsprungen sind?
11329
11330			Klar doch. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "lauter".
11331
11332			> Ueberspitzt: Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der
11333			> ploetzlich zum Lebewesen wird und Dich fragt, wer oder was
11334			> er eigentlich ist?
11335
11336	root	1.388	Tja, da hören die Übereinstimmungen auf. Ich dachte Du meinst
11337	root	1.1	Erwin Stein. Den kenne ich. Der hat zwei Kinder. Die krabbeln
11338	root	1.388	ab und zu auf ihm herum. Der ist aber nicht plötzlich zum Le-
11339	root	1.1	bewesen geworden, sondern den gibt es nun schon ein wenig
11340	root	1.388	länger. Und er hat mich auch noch nie gefragt, wer oder was
11341	root	1.1	er eigentlich ist. Zumindest nicht in einem Zustand, den man
11342	root	1.388	als "normal" bezeichnen könnte. So wird das anscheinend nix.
11343	root	1.1	Ciao
11344			Stefan
11345	root	1.387	%
11346	root	1.1	"These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After
11347			unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including
11348			all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer."
11349			(http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/pc99.htm)
11350	root	1.387	%
11351	root	1.1	Video cards have write-only registers. (of course that is bad design) Let's
11352			say that register 13 is write-only, as is common. It holds an index that
11353			determines what register 69 (also write-only) actually changes. If you write
11354			to register 13 while the accelerator is active, you lock the PCI bus. You
11355			can't determine if the accelerator is active without reading from register
11356			42, but you can't interpret the contents of that register correctly without
11357			knowing what the last accelerator command was. Reading from register 13 gets
11358			you some useless (unrelated) info and _also_ toggles the accelerator on and
11359			off.
11360	root	1.387	%
11361	root	1.1	Join the Army,
11362			Meet interesting people,
11363			Kill them.
11364	root	1.387	%
11365	root	1.1	> Wie entsteht Materie? Ich koennte mir vorstellen, dass Energie in Materie
11366			> umwandelbar ist.
11367
11368			E=m*c^2 (Schon mal gehoert?) (Schon mal verstanden??)
11369	root	1.387	%
11370	root	1.388	>nach der die Pygmäen geheime UFO-Basen in ausgehöhlten Baumstämmen
11371	root	1.1	>unterhalten (Vorsicht: das war ein Witz :-) ).
11372	root	1.387	%
11373	root	1.1	> (Bernhard Nahrgang) wrote:
11374			>
11375			> >> Logische Annahme: Die Erde waechst entweder kontinuierlich, oder periodisch
11376			> >> ruckartig.
11377			> >wie kann jemand mit dem IQ von 130 nur SO SELTEN BLOEDE sein??
11378			>
11379	root	1.388	> Norbert ist nicht selten blöde...
11380	root	1.1
11381			:-)
11382	root	1.387	%
11383	root	1.1	SAT 1 Teletext: Ein Asteroid mit einem Durchmesser von fast einem Kilometer
11384	root	1.388	rast mit großer Geschwindigkeit auf die Erde zu. US-Astronomen befürchten:
11385			"XF11" könnte im Jahr 2028 auf der Erde einschlagen. Die Folgen wären
11386	root	1.1	verheerend. "Der rasende Stein aus dem All ist eine Gefahr", warnt Jack G.
11387			Hills vom US-Kernforschungszentrum Los Alamos: "Wenn er die Erde trifft,
11388			wird er die Sprengkraft von 320.000 Megatonnen Dynamit haben." Das
11389			entspricht dem Zweimillionenfachen der Atombombe...
11390
11391			ARD/ZDF Teletext: ASTEROID MIT KURS AUF ERDE ENTDECKT Amerikanische
11392			Astronomen haben einen Asteroiden ausgemacht, der in 30 Jahren der Erde
11393	root	1.388	gefährlich nahekommen wird. Die Gefahr, daß der Asteroid einschlagen wird,
11394			sei gering, aber auch nicht völlig auszuschließen. Nach derzeitigen
11395	root	1.1	Berechnungen wird der Asteroid mit der Bezeichnung "1997 XF11" am 26.Oktober
11396	root	1.388	2028 unserem Planeten am nächsten kommen. "1997 XF11" hat etwa einen
11397			Durchmesser von 1,6 Kilometern. Erstmals käme ein Objekt dieser Größe der
11398			Erde so nahe, hieß es in dem Bericht der Internationalen Astronomischen
11399	root	1.1	Union.
11400
11401	root	1.388	RTL Teletext: Himmelskörper rast auf Erde zu Ein Asteroid wird im Jahr 2028
11402			der Erde gefährlich nahe kommen. Amerikanische Wissenschaftler haben die
11403	root	1.1	Chance eines Zusammenpralls auf eins zu tausend berechnet. Sollte der
11404	root	1.388	Asteroid, der einen Durchmesser von 1,8 Kilometern hat, aufprallen, könnte
11405			er eine gigantische Flutwelle auslösen, so die Forscher. Auch ein genaues
11406			Datum haben die Wissenschaftler schon errechnet: Von Europa aus wäre das
11407	root	1.1	Naturschauspiel am 26. Oktober 2028 zu beobachten.
11408	root	1.387	%
11409	root	1.1	* Linux Viruscan.....
11410			Windows 95 Found Remove it ? (Y/y)
11411	root	1.387	%
11412	root	1.1	>>Hmm, welche Behauptungen entsprechen denn deiner Meinung nach der
11413	root	1.388	>>Realität?
11414	root	1.1	>>
11415			>>Das es das FBI wirklich gibt?
11416	root	1.388	>>Das Scully frigide ist, und deshalb mit Mulder nichts anfangen möchte?
11417			>>Das Mulder homosexuell ist, und deshalb mit Scully nichts anfangen möchte?
11418	root	1.1	>>Das der CSM einen Vertrag mit Marlb*ro hat?
11419			>
11420			>Hinter diesen "Fragen" erkenne ich z.B. eine gut bekannte Strategie. Die
11421			>FBI-Frage ist bewusst absurd. Das Abgleiten ins Sexuelle hat ebenfalls
11422	root	1.387	%
11423	root	1.1	"'You're a Cirrus. You're crap. I'm an S3. I rule. Thank you and please drive through.'"
11424	root	1.387	%
11425	root	1.1	> How could you have perl take a set of numbers (1,2,3,4) and put them
11426			> into a random order???
11427			>
11428
11429			@array=qw(1 2 3 4);
11430			print "@array[1,3,2,0]\n";
11431
11432			I've checked this against other possible random orderings
11433			of these numbers, and this ordering is at least as random as
11434			any of the other possible ones. The benefit of this one being
11435			that it begins with the number 2, which is my favorite random
11436			number less than 42.
11437	root	1.387	%
11438	root	1.1	From what I am reading Win98 and NT5.0 will be getting rid of all that
11439			crap anyway. Seems that Microsoft has invented something called TCP/IP and
11440			another really revolutionary concept called DNS that eliminates the
11441			netbios crap too. All that arping from browsers is going to go away.
11442			I also hear rumors that they are on the verge of breakthrough discoveries
11443			called NFS, and LPD too. Given enough time and money, they might
11444			eventually invent Unix.
11445	root	1.387	%
11446	root	1.1	In Germany, where typeface design has always been a significant part of
11447			the cultural heritage, and where typefounding has remained an important
11448			business, there are more than one kind of copyright-like protections for
11449			typefaces. Certain long-standing industrial design protection laws have
11450			been used to protect typeface designs in litigation over royalties and
11451			plagiarisms. Further, there is a recent law, the so-called
11452			"Schriftzeichengesetz" enacted in 1981, that specifically protects
11453			typeface designs. New designs are registered, as is done with
11454			copyright in most countries. This law only protects new, original
11455			designs. It is available to non-German designers and firms. Therefore,
11456			some type firms and designers routinely copyright new designs in West
11457			Germany. This gives a degree of protection for products marketed in
11458			Germany. Since multinational corporations may find it cheaper to
11459			license a design for world-wide use rather than deal with a special case
11460			in one country, the German law does encourage licensing on a broader
11461			scale than would initially seem to be the case.
11462	root	1.387	%
11463	root	1.1	[linux processes vs. nt/solaris threads]
11464			Rob Pike pointed out that the solution to slow process creation is
11465			faster process creation, not another kernel abstraction.
11466	root	1.387	%
11467	root	1.1	Does anybody know how to communicate between a PC and a modem,
11468			using a Perl CGI script?
11469	root	1.387	%
11470	root	1.1	>I really don't know crap about PERL. How is it different from JAVA?
11471
11472			One tiny difference: Java can crash your browser. It happened to me last
11473			week.
11474	root	1.387	%
11475	root	1.1	Brieweb> I heard Randal Schwartz say he could write an entire httpd server in 90 lines
11476			Brieweb> of PERL.
11477			No, that's an http proxy server. A simple web server is much shorter.
11478			From "perldoc HTTP::Daemon"...
11479			[Randal Schwartz]
11480	root	1.387	%
11481	root	1.1	But the possibility of abuse may be a good reason for leaving
11482			capabilities out of other computer languages, it's not a good reason
11483			for leaving capabilities out of Perl.
11484			[Larry Wall in `Macros'. [[perl5-porters]]]
11485	root	1.387	%
11486	root	1.1	Yes: Java's main advantage over Perl is that it's hard to use for casual
11487			programmers, so keeps all but the most intrepid programmers away from it.
11488			It has no decent support for string processing, allowing you to spend
11489			hours at useless debugging. It has a very restrictive and static system
11490			to make sure you don't try anything interesting. It makes sure that you
11491			use objects, by golly, because James Gosling said so. It's easy for C++
11492			programmers to use, and hard for shell or BASIC programmers to use. It
11493			also only runs on a few systems, locking its customers into a a closed
11494			system and restricting their options.
11495			[Tom Christiansen in `Java Vs. Perl']
11496	root	1.387	%
11497	root	1.1	<Bill_Gates> Where do you want to go today?
11498			<Phase_5> Where do go tomorrow?
11499			<BlueFlux> Where were you yesterday?!?!
11500	root	1.387	%
11501	root	1.1	"It's not to control, but to protect the citizens of Singapore. In our
11502			society, you can state your views, but they have to be correct."
11503			Ernie Hai
11504			Coordinator of Singapore Government Internet Project
11505	root	1.387	%
11506	root	1.1	: I very much prefer a useful error message than a "it produced the wrong
11507			: results" report from the users.
11508
11509			if i got even "it produced the wrong results" from our users, i would
11510			be in 7th heaven. ours often mail us with such insightful requests as
11511			"can you tell me my email address?" no, sorry, that should be "CAN U
11512			TEL ME MY E MAIL ADRES DUDE?!!!?? HURRY!!!"
11513	root	1.387	%
11514	root	1.1	There are many intelligent species in the Universe.
11515			They are all owned by cats.
11516	root	1.387	%
11517	root	1.1	Why dignify your unsustainable, unjustifiable, unprovable feeble
11518			attempts at character assassination with anything resembling a reply?
11519			You only make yourself look foolish by mouthing off like that.
11520	root	1.387	%
11521	root	1.1	From: L & K Olson <kolson@mbnet.mb.ca>
11522			Subject: If they wrote error messages in haiku ...
11523
11524			Yesterday it worked
11525			Today it is not working
11526			Windows is like that
11527			- - -
11528			wind catches lily
11529			scatt'ring petals to the wind:
11530			segmentation fault
11531			- - -
11532			Three things are certain:
11533			Death, taxes, and lost data.
11534			Guess which has occurred.
11535			- - -
11536			A file that big?
11537			It might be very useful.
11538			But now it is gone.
11539			- - -
11540			Windows NT crashed.
11541			I am the Blue Screen of Death.
11542			No one hears your screams.
11543			- - -
11544			Errors have occurred.
11545			We won't tell you where or why.
11546			Lazy programmers.
11547			- - -
11548			Seeing my great fault
11549			Through darkening blue windows
11550			I begin again
11551			- - -
11552			The code was willing,
11553			It considered your request,
11554			But the chips were weak.
11555			- - -
11556			Printer not ready.
11557			Could be a fatal error.
11558			Have a pen handy?
11559			- - -
11560			Server's poor response
11561			Not quick enough for browser.
11562			Timed out, plum blossom.
11563			- - -
11564			Chaos reigns within.
11565			Reflect, repent, and reboot.
11566			Order shall return.
11567			- - -
11568			Login incorrect.
11569			Only perfect spellers may
11570			enter this system.
11571			- - -
11572			This site has been moved.
11573			We'd tell you where, but then we'd
11574			have to delete you.
11575			- - -
11576			ABORTED effort:
11577			Close all that you have.
11578			You ask way too much.
11579			- - -
11580			First snow, then silence.
11581			This thousand dollar screen dies
11582			so beautifully.
11583			- - -
11584			With searching comes loss
11585			and the presence of absence:
11586			"My Novel" not found.
11587			- - -
11588			The Tao that is seen
11589			Is not the true Tao, until
11590			You bring fresh toner.
11591			- - -
11592			The Web site you seek
11593			cannot be located but
11594			endless others exist
11595			- - -
11596			Stay the patient course
11597			Of little worth is your ire
11598			The network is down
11599			- - -
11600			A crash reduces
11601			your expensive computer
11602			to a simple stone.
11603			- - -
11604			There is a chasm
11605			of carbon and silicon
11606			the software can't bridge
11607			- - -
11608			To have no errors
11609			Would be life without meaning
11610			No struggle, no joy
11611			- - -
11612			You step in the stream,
11613			but the water has moved on.
11614			This page is not here.
11615			- - -
11616			No keyboard present
11617			Hit F1 to continue
11618			Zen engineering?
11619			- - -
11620			Hal, open the file
11621			Hal, open the damn file, Hal
11622			open it, please Hal
11623			- - -
11624			Out of memory.
11625			We wish to hold the whole sky,
11626			But we never will.
11627			- - -
11628			Having been erased,
11629			The document you're seeking
11630			Must now be retyped.
11631			- - -
11632			The ten thousand things
11633			How long do any persist?
11634			Netscape, too, has gone.
11635			- - -
11636			Rather than a beep
11637			Or a rude error message,
11638			These words: "File not found."
11639			- - -
11640			Serious error.
11641			All shortcuts have disappeared
11642			Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
11643	root	1.387	%
11644	root	1.1	"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way
11645			to factor large prime numbers." -- Bill Gates from "The Road Ahead," p. 265.
11646	root	1.387	%
11647	root	1.1	> What is the Windows equivalent of the first line used for
11648			> UNIX (#!/usr/local/bin/perl) that tells where the Perl interpreter is?
11649
11650			Windows hasn't gotten quite as far in functionality as, say, BSD Unix in the
11651			early 1980s.
11652	root	1.387	%
11653	root	1.1	> I have a chat script, that will work fine for a bit then after a while
11654			> the private messages will stop working. It might be because I changed
11655			> something, but chances are that isn't the case. I re-install a fresh
11656			> copy, paths are correct, and they still don't work
11657
11658			I think you are experiencing GOVERNMENT CONTROL. You see, everyone
11659			with a chat script is being scrutinised by the department of CHAT
11660			control. Whenever they see some message they don't like, they
11661			introduce some little goblin called feature-creep in your program. if
11662			you have lots of these little devils, your program migth acquire so
11663			many new features that it just stops working.
11664
11665			This also applies to Microsoft products.
11666
11667			> Does it make sense for certain features to just not work?! If you can
11668			> help, or have suggestions, get back to me, PLEASE:)
11669
11670			Yes, it makes perfect sense. Especially if they're features which
11671			really are bugs. And especially if they're 'private' messages. You
11672			know perfectly well that the government doesn't like private messages.
11673
11674			Hope this explains what's going on
11675			Martien Verbruggen
11676	root	1.387	%
11677	root	1.1	...code? If you're on a misconfigured NT server (is that redundant?), you...
11678	root	1.387	%
11679	root	1.1	X11R6.1-based free X server compiles, links and crashes under IRIX(TM).
11680	root	1.387	%
11681	root	1.1	-------------- please bite here ------------- bitte hier abbeissen ---------
11682	root	1.387	%
11683	root	1.1	"Frag mal, auf was fuer uptimes man kommt, wenn man Software-Entwicklung
11684			unter NT macht..." "Das koennen bis zu dreissig Minuten werden - in der
11685			Mittagspause." -- Andreas Bogk, Kai Fett, de.alt.sysadmin.recovery
11686	root	1.387	%
11687	root	1.1	> ++ A lot of posters here have .sigs that include perl one liners.
11688			> ++ Is there a safe way to run them, and be assured that they wont
11689			> ++ damage and/or erase files? (or e-mail off my shadow file)
11690			>
11691			> Just make sure you understand it ;)
11692
11693			I nominate Abigail for best response of the year with this one. Come to
11694			think of it, I nominate it for best response of next year, too.
11695	root	1.387	%
11696	root	1.1	Your moderator will be spending the next week on a beach on a small island
11697			where the phones don't work very well, so there won't be any comp.compilers
11698			until the 28th. Any messages you send in will wait here until I get back and
11699			should be posted on March 1st or 2nd.
11700	root	1.387	%
11701	root	1.1	But now, in comp.lang.perl.misc, you have a bunch of people who aren't
11702			even asking how to make the pieces fit together, but what the
11703			individual pieces are. ("How do I get my lego project to roll accross
11704			the table?" "You use one of those pieces that have the wheels
11705			attached.") Or questions that aren't about building at all. ("The
11706			motor stopped moving. How do I get it to start again?" "The batteries
11707			are probably dead. You can buy new batteries at any department or
11708			convienience store.")
11709	root	1.387	%
11710	root	1.1	: how do i make my perl script run?
11711			Get up at 91 minutes before dawn, clothe yourself in neon green body
11712	root	1.387	%
11713	root	1.1	for some reason Windoze users don't seem to expect docs to come with an archive
11714	root	1.424	>>> ToiLeTGoD
11715	root	1.1
11716			Well, well.. I always wondered who/what made that flush thingy work.
11717			Pretty cool name, dude. (not)
11718	root	1.387	%
11719	root	1.1	Ummm...create "comp.lang.perl.wizards", make it moderated and all posts,
11720			including xposts, go into /dev/null. Most FAQers won't have the Usenet
11721			background to understand that such groups are either a) a wasteland
11722			populated (briefly) by persons like themselves, or b) point to /dev/null.
11723	root	1.387	%
11724	root	1.1	Lazy people never bother to actually read the manual. Instead they (like
11725			kids) pick something with big, colorful buttons.
11726			-- Eugene Tyurin <gene@insti.physics.sunysb.edu>
11727	root	1.387	%
11728	root	1.1	The Average Person's Axioms of First Order Predicate Logic:
11729			(A => B) => (B => A)
11730			(There exists) x A(x) => (For all) x A(x)
11731			(A => C) & (B => C) => (A => B) - Warren Vonroeschlaub
11732	root	1.387	%
11733	root	1.1	cal 9 1752
11734	root	1.387	%
11735	root	1.1	Installing unix fixes the [VMS] bug.
11736			-Barry Shein
11737	root	1.387	%
11738	root	1.1	And this horrible free-for-all will be left to children wondering around
11739			by themselves in the dark because they refuse to turn on the light and
11740			read the manual.
11741	root	1.387	%
11742	root	1.1	"SPARC" is "CRAPS" backwards --Rob Pike
11743	root	1.387	%
11744	root	1.1	I increasingly begin to understand why some universities require
11745			that its compsci majors study the Euclid's Prime Number Theorem,
11746			the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, Cantor's Diagonalization Proof,
11747			Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem, and the ramifications of Halting Problem
11748			in everyday life. These may not be involved in daily programming, but
11749			it helps develop a rigorous mind. And it gives those who would progress
11750			from typist to word-processor devotee to HTML documenter to CGI scripter
11751			to distributed multithreaded operating systems design specialist cause
11752			for pause. You just can't do that without proper training.
11753	root	1.387	%
11754	root	1.1	comp.lang.perl.i'm-from-microsoft-so-won't-read-documentation
11755	root	1.387	%
11756	root	1.1	I suggest you install a newsserver, and keep a local spool. Anything else
11757			is too much work, and fairly silly. The Internet has catupulted even
11758			the Wintel victims past the days of BBS toys.
11759	root	1.387	%
11760	root	1.1	> Help help! Pls advise me thru email.
11761
11762			I advise you to buy a new keyboard; one that has all the keys you
11763			need.
11764	root	1.387	%
11765	root	1.1	Christian Fundamentalism: The doctrine that there is an absolutely
11766			powerful, infinitely knowledgeable, universe spanning entity that is
11767			deeply and personally concerned about my sex life.
11768	root	1.387	%
11769	root	1.1	I find the first particularly useful in destroying the miswrapped
11770			lines stemming from brain-damaged "it's just another word processor"
11771			newsreaders. You know,
11772			those postings that always seem to go to the edge of the line and then
11773			back
11774			again to the start, as this paragraph has. These are just too painful
11775			to read. Just kill them. It's not worth your time trying to figure
11776			out what they're saying.
11777	root	1.387	%
11778	root	1.1	It is most annoying to receive junk mail describing how to purchase 93
11779			million addresses, while knowing that yours is one of them.
11780	root	1.387	%
11781	root	1.1	I'm surprised Tom, how could it miss the "X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT;
11782			U)" header line? Personally, I find the attempted use of Netscape as a
11783			newsreader even worse then the attempted use of WinNT as an OS. :-)
11784
11785			But the combination.... sutters
11786	root	1.387	%
11787	root	1.1	Hm... my new killfile isn't detecting you're posting from Windows.
11788			Darn it.
11789	root	1.387	%
11790	root	1.1	At least he didn't post in all caps.
11791	root	1.387	%
11792	root	1.1	http://language.perl.com/CPAN-local/doc/FAQs/cgi/idiots-guide.html
11793	root	1.387	%
11794	root	1.1	I think the biggest problem with M.S.A. is that the scripts work for Matt, but
11795			the majority of people trying to use them are from the
11796			"Wintel/AOL/FrontPage/push-a-button/HTML-is-programming/no-programming-required"
11797			school of non-learning. It isn't a problem with the code, per se, but with those
11798			trying to use it.
11799	root	1.387	%
11800	root	1.1	"Linux can emulate an C64 on my AMDK6PR200 at full speed. Windows can't."
11801	root	1.387	%
11802	root	1.1	cdog wrote:
11803			>
11804			> Is this group active?
11805			No.
11806
11807			If you had spent half a second LOOKING at the group before posting, you
11808			probably could have come to that conclusion yourself.
11809
11810			On a personal note, I died 3 years, 8 days, 5 minutes, 16 seconds, and
11811			345 milliseconds ago, but who's counting.
11812	root	1.387	%
11813	root	1.1	"Security through obscurity is no security at all."
11814			-comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup posting
11815	root	1.387	%
11816	root	1.1	"Windows 95 will now attempt to blow chunks across your primary partition.
11817			Press any key to continue..."
11818	root	1.387	%
11819	root	1.1	NT 5.0 is the last nail in the Unix coffin. Interestingly, Unix
11820			isn't in the coffin... It's wondering what the heck is sealing
11821			itself into a wooden box 6 feet underground...
11822	root	1.387	%
11823	root	1.1	The Wall St Journal (1996-01-22, page 1) reported that Cuba is
11824			considering jumping across the International Date Line, just so that
11825			it's the first into the year 2000. So it's possible you'll have to
11826			adjust your travel plans.
11827	root	1.387	%
11828	root	1.388	"Wo kämen wir hin, wenn alle sagten, wo kämen wir hin, und niemand ginge
11829			hin, um einmal zu schauen, wohin man käme, wenn man ginge." -- Kurt Marti
11830	root	1.387	%
11831	root	1.1	The Takeuchi function is a popular benchmark of function calling due to its
11832			highly recursive nature. It's defined as:
11833
11834			tak x y z = z, if y >= x
11835			= tak (tak (x-1) y z) (tak (y - 1) z x) (tak (z - 1) x y), otherwise
11836
11837			For this benchmark, the function is invoked as:
11838
11839			tak 18 12 6
11840	root	1.387	%
11841	root	1.1	"Nobody will ever need more than 640k RAM!"
11842			-- Bill Gates
11843			"Windows 95 needs at least 8 MB RAM."
11844			-- Bill Gates
11845			"Nobody will ever need Windows 95."
11846			-- logical conclusion
11847	root	1.387	%
11848	root	1.1	Year Name James Bond Book
11849			- ---- -------------------------------- -------------- ----
11850			50's James Bond TV Series Barry Nelson
11851			1962 Dr. No Sean Connery 1958
11852			1963 From Russia With Love Sean Connery 1957
11853			1964 Goldfinger Sean Connery 1959
11854			1965 Thunderball Sean Connery 1961
11855			1967* Casino Royale David Niven 1954
11856			1967 You Only Live Twice Sean Connery 1964
11857			1969 On Her Majesty's Secret Service George Lazenby 1963
11858			1971 Diamonds Are Forever Sean Connery 1956
11859			1973 Live And Let Die Roger Moore 1955
11860			1974 The Man With The Golden Gun Roger Moore 1965
11861			1977 The Spy Who Loved Me Roger Moore 1962 (novelette)
11862			1979 Moonraker Roger Moore 1955
11863			1981 For Your Eyes Only Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
11864			1983 Octopussy Roger Moore 1965
11865			1983* Never Say Never Again Sean Connery
11866			1985 A View To A Kill Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
11867			1987 The Living Daylights Timothy Dalton 1965 (novelette)
11868			* -- Not a Broccoli production.
11869	root	1.387	%
11870	root	1.1	Windows NT: n.
11871			32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit
11872			operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written
11873			by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
11874	root	1.387	%
11875	root	1.388	Auf der Kiste läuft EHNIX, das ist ZUNIX kompatibel.