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1	There was a longstanding meme in the meetings (and on comp.std.c) that "if
2	you don't understand the reasoning behing something in the C Standard, the
3	answer is the IBM AS400".
4
5	[Clive D.W. Feather in <Y1onchv4w2mQsJDQ@davros.org>]
6	%
7	MRT sagt:
8	29. Juli 2022 um 17:02 Uhr
9
10	Rein spekulativ angenommen: was wären denn mögliche Konsequenzen wenn
11	heraus kommen würde, dass ein EU-Mitgliedsstaat (z.B. Ungarn) Spionage
12	gegen die EU betreibt?
13
14	René sagt:
15	29. Juli 2022 um 20:30 Uhr
16
17	Suche Dir das stumpfste Schwert aus.
18
19	[https://netzpolitik.org/2022/pegasus-ausschuss-eu-kommission-bestaetigt-hacking-spuren-auf-geraeten/]
20	%
21	Apparently "zork" was a nonsense word used at MIT for the current
22	uninstalled program in progress, and stuck. Just as this document uses
23	the term "Z-machine" for both the machine and its loaded program (which
24	is also sometimes called the "story file"), so ZIP (Zork Implementation
25	Program) was used to mean either the interpreter or the object code it
26	interpreted. Code was written in ZIL (Zork Implementation Language),
27	which was derived from MDL (informally called "muddle"), a particularly
28	unhelpful form of LISP. It was then compiled by ZILCH to assembly code
29	which was passed to ZAP to make the ZIP.
30
31	[http://inform-fiction.org/zmachine/standards/z1point0/appd.html]
32	%
33	"How We Test Power Supply Units"
34
35	In case a PSU explodes [...], we note this in the review and subtract the
36	corresponding performance points from its overall performance score.
37
38	[https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/how-we-test-psu,4042-12.html]
39	%
40	22:15:54 <Mikachu> the whole thing didn't strictly crash, but the game used --in-process-gpu and the gpu
41	process called exit when it couldn't init the gpu
42	22:16:01 <Mikachu> without that the game ran in software at 1fps just fine
43	%
44	Whatever feature of the STE you want to use, it will either not work as
45	planned or require special treatment. If it works as planned and does not
46	require special treatment, it will definetly not work on the TT or the
47	Falcon.
48
49	[http://www.atari-wiki.com/index.php/Atari_STE_FAQ_compiled_by_The_Paranoid_/_Paradox]
50	%
51	In 1729, how could they know where the north pole was when it was only
52	discovered in 1909?
53	-- Ebon Kim, Flat-Earth Youtuber
54	%
55	Fun with the north korean Red Star OS:
56
57	It does have some components that prevent the normal user from
58	editing/deleting various protected files (securityd, scnprc and opprc). We
59	call it “oppression” if we’re speaking of DPRK and “defending your
60	privacy and security” if we’re speaking of Apple. Two sides of the
61	same coin, I guess, depends on which side you’re on.
62
63	[https://sizeof.cat/post/fun-with-redstar-os/]
64	%
65	Minister for Law and Home Affairs K Shanmugam clarified in Parliament
66	during the Committee of Supply debate on Mar. 3 that inmates in Singapore
67	do not need to thank prison staff after being caned.
68
69	[https://mothership.sg/2022/03/no-requirement-thank-guard-after-caning/]
70	%
71	The IETF, obviously fearing irrelevance, hastily "discovered" that the
72	HTTP/1.1 protocol needed an update, and tasked a working group with
73	preparing it on an unrealistically short schedule. This ruled out any
74	basis for the new HTTP/2.0 other than the SPDY protocol. With only
75	the most hideous of SPDY's warts removed, and all other attempts at
76	improvement rejected as "not in scope," "too late," or "no consensus," the
77	IETF can now claim relevance and victory by conceding practically every
78	principle ever held dear in return for the privilege of rubber-stamping
79	Google's initiative.
80
81	Poul-Henning Kamp, in https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=27162
82	%
83	[HGST engineer, taking about drive reliability]
84
85	we don't want to test it, because that costs time, we just wait for the
86	market feedback and put that into our calculations.
87	%
88	[wdleng.c in unix V6 iolib]
89
90	wdleng ()
91	/* returns number of bits in a machine integer */
92	/* written so kernighan can tell where he is running */
93	{
94	int k, leng;
95	k = leng = 1;
96	while (k =<< 1)
97	leng++;
98	return (leng);
99	}
100	%
101	Dana Angluin's List of Proof Techniques
102
103	Proof by example:
104	The author gives only the case n=2 and suggests that it contains most
105	of the ideas of the general proof.
106
107	Proof by intimidation:
108	'Trivial.'
109
110	Proof by vigorous handwaving:
111	Works well in a classroom or seminar setting.
112
113	Proof by cumbersome notation:
114	Best done with access to at least four alphabets and special symbols.
115
116	Proof by exhaustion:
117	An issue or two of a journal devoted to your proof is useful.
118
119	Proof by omission:
120	'The reader may easily supply the details.'
121	'The other 253 cases are analogous.'
122	'...'
123
124	Proof by obfuscation:
125	A long plotless sequence of true and/or meaningless syntactically
126	related statements.
127
128	Proof by wishful citation:
129	The author cites the negation, converse, or generalization of a theorem
130	from the literature to support his claims.
131
132	Proof by funding:
133	How could three different government agencies be wrong?
134
135	Proof by eminent authority:
136	'I saw Karp in the elevator and he said it was probably NP-complete.'
137
138	Proof by personal communication:
139	'Eight-dimensional colored cycle stripping is NP-complete' [Karp,
140	personal commmunication].
141
142	Proof by reduction to the wrong problem:
143	'To see that infinite-dimensional colored cycle stripping is decidable,
144	we reduce it to the halting problem.'
145
146	Proof by reference to inaccessible literature:
147	The author cites a simple corollary of a theorem to be found in a
148	privately circulated memoir of the Slovenian Philological Society,
149	1883.
150
151	Proof by importance:
152	A large body of useful consequences all follow from the proposition in question.
153
154	Proof by accumulated evidence:
155	Long and diligent search has not revealed a counterexample.
156
157	Proof by cosmology:
158	The negation of the proposition is unimaginable or meaningless. Popular
159	for proofs of the existence of God.
160
161	Proof by mutual reference:
162	In reference A, Theorem 5 is said to follow from Theorem 3 in reference
163	B, which is shown to follow from Corollary 6.2 in reference C, which is
164	an easy consequence of Theorem 5 in reference A.
165
166	Proof by meta-proof:
167	A method is given to construct the desired proof. The correctness of
168	the method is proved by any of these techniques.
169
170	Proof by picture:
171	A more convincing form of proof by example. Combines well with proof by omission.
172
173	Proof by vehement assertion:
174	It is useful to have some kind of authority relation to the audience.
175
176	Proof by ghost reference:
177	Nothing even remotely resembling the cited theorem appears in the reference given.
178
179	Proof by forward reference:
180	Reference is usually to a forthcoming paper of the author, which is
181	often not as forthcoming as at first.
182
183	Proof by semantic shift:
184	Some standard but inconvenient definitions are changed for the
185	statement of the result.
186
187	Proof by appeal to intuition:
188	Cloud-shaped drawings frequently help here.
189
190	Proof by elimination of the counterexample:
191	'Assume for the moment that the hypothesis is true. Now, let's
192	suppose we find a counterexample. So what? QED.' (from Don Woods
193	<DON@SU-AI.ARPA>)
194
195	[https://users.cs.northwestern.edu/~riesbeck/proofs.html]
196	%
197	polkit: Similar to sudo but much more complicated
198
199	[https://github.com/helloSystem/hello/wiki/Welcome-and-unwelcome-technologies]
200	%
201	D-Bus: IPC, but complicated. Why do we need XML schema files, why is there
202	sometimes / notation and sometimes ., and so on. IPC is a good thing, but
203	this implementation is too complicated!
204
205	[https://github.com/helloSystem/hello/wiki/Welcome-and-unwelcome-technologies]
206	%
207	Pipewire: Solution in search of a problem you don't have without Wayland?
208
209	[https://github.com/helloSystem/hello/wiki/Welcome-and-unwelcome-technologies]
210	%
211	In general, Wayland is moving away from the modularity, portability, and standardization of the X server.
212
213	[https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/wayland_on_netbsd_trials_and]
214	%
215	The Wayland "reference implementation" is a small set of libraries that
216	can be used to build a compositor or a client application. These libraries
217	currently have hard dependencies on Linux kernel APIs like epoll. In
218	pkgsrc we've patched the libraries to add kqueue(2) support, but the
219	patches haven't been accepted upstream. Wayland is written with the
220	assumption of Linux to the extent that every client application tends to
221	#include <linux/input.h> because Wayland's designers didn't see the need
222	to define a OS-neutral way to get mouse button IDs.
223
224	[https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/wayland_on_netbsd_trials_and]
225	%
226	As best I can tell (from the long and unsatisfactory thread I pursed on
227	the Wayland Developers list some little time ago), the core issue with
228	Wayland and Color is social, not technical:
229
230	1. none of the key developers have the faintest idea what Color or Color
231	Management is, and (worse):
232
233	2. they have no idea why it would be at all important.
234
235	[https://discuss.pixls.us/t/wayland-color-management/10804/4]
236	%
237	> (isn't it the case with ifconfig vs. ip already?)
238
239	Wayland is more like they created ip but named the command ifconfig, then
240	told you to go fix your scripts.
241
242	If the Wayland developers had sense, they would have carefully considered
243	how to make it a seemless transition for developers. Instead, they decided
244	they were the ultimate authority on software engineering and screw
245	developers, they are all doing it wrong anyways.
246
247	[https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277#gistcomment-3862027]
248	%
249	Wayland is written with the assumption of Linux to the extent that every
250	client application tends to #include <linux/input.h> because Wayland's
251	designers didn't see the need to define a OS-neutral way to get mouse
252	button IDs.
253
254	[https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/wayland_on_netbsd_trials_and]
255	%
256	... a basic barebones TWM for X11 works better and offers more features
257	than Weston which contains ~20 times more code
258
259	[https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277#gistcomment-3526530]
260	%
261	"It is true that Wayland somewhat sucks ass" -- The Lutris founder
262	[The Lutris founder quoting himself]
263	%
264	Eine solche Regulierung schafft man in Deutschland nur für wirklich
265	wichtige Themen wie zur Durchsetzung der Bereitstellung von Schnittstellen
266	für die Telekommunikationsüberwachung. Bei so irrelevanten Themen wie
267	dem Katastrophenschutz und der Alarmierung der Bevölkerung braucht man
268	den Markt nicht zu regulieren.
269
270	[https://laforge.gnumonks.org/blog/20210719-smscb/]
271	From: Stephen Searle
272	Date: 18 Mar 1998, 09:00:00
273	Subject: A Clockwork Nethacker
274
275	What if the next version of Nethack has a new class based on the Droogs
276	of Anthony Burgess' novel (and later Stanley Kubrick film) "A Clockwork
277	Orange"?
278
279	I imagine the language would be radically different, like the
280	Samurai-speak only much, much more so...
281
282	Your rookers glow red -more-
283	You tolchock the floating glazzy real horrorshow! -more-
284	The floating glazzy appears bezoomny.
285	You brosay your britva at the floating glazzy -more-
286	The floating glazzy is oobivatted!
287
288	Ugh - that Pishcha was rotten! -more-
289	You feel a malenky bit bolnoy.
290
291	You govoreet with the charlie of Bog -more-
292	The charlie asks you for some cutter for the temple.
293
294	The devotchka flashes her groodies at you -more-
295	"Take off your platties, they're in the way" -more-
296	Raz stands still while you and the devotchka lie in each other's rookers...
297	(or:)
298	"You're such a bolshy chelloveck, I wish..."
299
300	The rassoodock-flayer tolchocks you!
301	Your shlem blocks the attack to your gulliver.
302	The rassoodock-flayer tolchocks you real horrorshow!
303	Your brain is eaten! You feel gloopy!
304
305	An enormous dook appears next to you!
306	You are poogly to snuffit and unable to itty!
307
308	You slooshy someone cursing prestoopnicks.
309
310	You ittied from the shop without pretty pollying! -more-
311	You crasted 100 gollies worth of veshches! -more-
312	A millicent's whistle zvooks -more-
313	The Keystone rozzes are after you!
314
315
316	Heh... I think I will have to write a little text filter for Nethack :-)
317
318	-SJS
319
320	[https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/c/3P5KdEPru6o/m/UxXyLvAsJUwJ]
321	%
322	"Validity of journal" is not an argument from authority fallacy, it is an
323	assessment of the prior on source quality.
324	%
325	You know what they say though, if the punishment for a crime is a fee
326	then it’s only a crime for the poor.
327	%
328	[https://signal.org/blog/cellebrite-vulnerabilities/]
329
330	In completely unrelated news, upcoming versions of Signal will be
331	periodically fetching files to place in app storage. These files are never
332	used for anything inside Signal and never interact with Signal software or
333	data, but they look nice, and aesthetics are important in software. Files
334	will only be returned for accounts that have been active installs for some
335	time already, and only probabilistically in low percentages based on phone
336	number sharding. We have a few different versions of files that we think
337	are aesthetically pleasing, and will iterate through those slowly over
338	time. There is no other significance to these files.
339	%
340	"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's
341	life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy
342	that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes,
343	leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to
344	deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs. "
345	- John Rogers
346	%
347	The population is made up of four types of people: A small number hunt
348	witches. A large number go along with the hunt. A larger number are
349	silent. A tiny number oppose it. The final group — as if by magic —
350	become witches.
351
352	– Bret Weinstein
353	%
354	Looting is transition to freedom.
355	- Rumsfeld 2003
356	%
357	I’m adding a new favorite Randroid argument to my list:
358
359	1) "You disagree with me, therefore you don’t understand Rand’s ‘philosophy’."
360
361	2) "You didn’t REALLY read her books and essays. Go read them again… you still disagree?" (defer back to 1)
362
363	3) Angry name calling (always a favorite)
364
365	4)!! "Read Rand’s disciples, they surely knew better what Rand REALLY meant." (Last line of defense when 1,2,3 fail)
366
367	[commenter at http://www.rotman.uwo.ca/the-system-that-wasnt-there-ayn-rands-failed-philosophy-and-why-it-matters/]
368	%
369	Doubly-linked lists are hard
370	- a rust tutorial
371	%
372	As someone who has been acquainted with a surprisingly large number of
373	people who write fantasy, I can tell you that the difference between
374	fantasy and reality is that fantasy has to make sense.
375
376	[Tyvor Winn, https://pandasthumb.org/archives/2019/07/fire-breathing-dinosaurs.html]
377	%
378	The overarching theme of the code of conduct has always been Be Nice and
379	that has been problematic for a long time.
380
381	[https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/334058/are-there-specific-issues-with-unwelcoming-behavior-toward-lgbtq-persons-on-stac/]
382	%
383	GNU Powered it
384	GPL Protected it
385	GOD Blessed it
386
387	[from Nala Ginrut's mail signature]
388	%
389	a friend once told me that "ex-mother-in-law-to-be" was the most wonderful
390	kinship term she'd ever heard.
391
392	[http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler/aue/tense.html]
393	%
394	> I have long considered that the BRs were written by the in-group, for
395	> the in-group, and do not adequately call out the expected processes for
396	> an outsider wanting to join the in-group.
397
398	I don't agree.
399
400	> The outsiders sometimes struggle not because they are trying to
401	> accomplish anything of wrong intent, but because the step by step path
402	> is not as clear as it could be.
403
404	As an outsider, it's true that you are expected to know how to be a
405	trustworthy CA. The ecosystem is not designed to help you to learn how
406	to be trustworthy - the ecosystem does not improve from having more
407	applicants who lack that knowledge - and so yes, the baseline expectation
408	is that applying CAs are operated beyond reproach.
409
410	[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1427262]
411	[darkmatter uae trying to get a root certificate for nefarious purposes]
412	%
413	> that way you can adapt your own UID allocation to reliably avoid that range.
414
415	That is my major issue with systemd: That it postulates that everybody
416	else shall adapt to its conventions, w/o configurability, even if there
417	other conventions exist for a very long time.
418
419	[https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/]
420	%
421	static void die_you_gravy_sucking_pig_dog(void) __dead;
422
423	[minix/sbin/shutdown sources]
424	%
425	However, as you can imagine, this is a terrible idea for some zones. If
426	you could walk the .gov zone, you could learn every US government agency
427	and government agency portal.
428
429	[wow, it's terrible if people could learn about every US government
430	agency? of the people, for the people, no?]
431
432	[https://blog.cloudflare.com/black-lies/]
433	%
434	Most of the images at NASA have their EXIF data completely removed.
435
436	[hollycrap in https://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1016]
437	%
438	The theory of gravity explaining our solar system, can easily be disproved
439	as objects that only had attractive force towards each other would end up
440	smashing into each other, sooner or later.
441
442	[aa5 in https://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1957]
443	%
444	Windows 98 "SE" "Suckers Edition"
445	Windows "ME" Mistake Edition
446	Windows "NT" Not to Terrible
447	Windows 2000 ahhhhh! A good OS!
448	Windows "XP" eXtra Problems
449	%
450	Instead of banning every word out there, we should make the mental effort
451	to do better than the political correctness movement that stops at the
452	surface. So, let’s call it master-slave, and instead make a call for US,
453	where a sizable black population is very poor, to have free healthcare,
454	to have cops that are less biased against non-white people, to stop death
455	penalty. This makes really a difference.
456
457	[http://antirez.com/news/122]
458	%
459	"MASTER/Slave" is ungood crimethinkful oldspeak. plusgood rectify unword.
460	Is Minitrue doubleplusgoodwork truthwise. chocorat anyone?
461
462	[https://github.com/django/django/pull/2692#issuecomment-44847465]
463	%
464	Somebody should tell EU, 1984 was not an instruction manual.
465
466	[BhishmPitamah, in https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/9f9za4/europe_just_voted/]
467	%
468	[supposedly from the firmware update script for certain tesla car models]
469
470	# We should have some way here of keeping the car parked. What if
471	# they try to drive off while we're in the middle of an upgrade?
472
473	# We should also have a mutex around everything that follows. What if
474	# unpack.sh gets triggered on the same tarball twice? This is more of
475	# a problem now that we might be deferring installation.
476
477	# We should also have a recovery system. What if we remove the
478	# tarball filename but this process is killed before it can complete?
479
480	[https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3862643&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=87#post]
481	%
482	[https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2015#tech-editor]
483
484	Vim 15.2%
485	Emacs 3.8%
486
487	[https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2016#technology-development-environments]
488
489	Vim 26.1%
490	Emacs 5.2%
491	%
492	Systemd dies if there is no cgroup support in the kernel.
493
494	Poettering: "To make this work we’d need a patch, as nobody of us tests this"
495
496	R! /dir/.* destroys root.
497
498	Poettering: "I am not sure I'd consider this much of a problem. Yeah, it's a UNIX pitfall, but "rm -rf /foo/.*" will work the exact same way, no?"
499
500	Processes owned by a user with a leading zero in the name are started with root privilege..
501
502	Pottering: "I don't think there's anything to fix in systemd here"
503
504	Systemd kill background processes after user logs out.
505
506	Poettering: "In my view it was actually quite strange of UNIX that it by default let arbitrary user code stay around unrestricted after logout."
507
508	'I have an issue with journal corruptions and need to know what is the accepted way to deal with them.'
509
510	Poettering: "Yupp, journal corruptions result in rotation, and when reading we try to make the best of it. they are nothing we really need to fix hence."
511
512	'Poettering locked and limited conversation to collaborators on 17 Apr'
513
514	[https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10927261&cid=54905721]
515	%
516	[raid controller vendor lock-in techniques]
517
518	>>> Are HP/PMCS doing the Intel/LSI thing with controllers only working on
519	>>> their own servers.
520	>>
521	>> you mean the DELL PERC5/i 6/i tape of smbus pins mod thing? (Dell first!)
522	>
523	> No the Intel where that trick doesn't work thing.
524
525	[https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/hp-p400-why-so-cheap-on-ebay.2308/page-2]
526	%
527	The way I see it, once you move to Firefox 57, you're ready for Chrome.
528
529	[from a discussion about how deleting all existing extensions and force-replacing
530	them by inferior webextensions (if at all) is a great idea]
531	%
532	Chronology of Significant Events
533	================================
534
535	November 2002
536
537	Rahman wearing only socks and diaper; supervisor has concern regarding
538	hypothermia Rahman subjected to 48 hours of sleep deprivation, rough
539	treatment, cold shower and other measures but remained noncompliant.
540
541	---
542
543	Subjected to cold conditions and minimum food and sleep... confused due to
544	dehydration and fatigue.
545
546	---
547
548	Cable recommends future use of continued environmental deprivations with
549	interrogations 18 out of 24 hours daily
550
551	---
552
553	Linguist asks questions about the temperature at which hypothermia occurs
554
555	November 19 2200 hrs
556	guard check - Rahman is alive.
557
558	2300 hrs
559	guard check - Rahman is alive.
560
561	November 20 0400 hrs
562	guard check - Rahman is alive.
563
564	0800 hrs
565	guard check - Rahman is alive.
566
567	1000 hrs
568	guard check - Rahman is dead.
569
570	[https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/oct/09/cia-torture-black-site-enhanced-interrogation]
571	%
572	In the quiet moments, he set his hand terminal to the Eros feed. Back
573	when he’d been a kid, there had been a performance artist making
574	the rounds—Jila Sorormaya, her name was. As he recalled, she’d
575	intentionally corrupted data-storage devices and then put the data stream
576	through her music kit. She’d gotten into trouble when some of the
577	proprietary code of the storage device software got incorporated into her
578	music and posted. Miller hadn’t been a sophisticate. He’d figured
579	another nutcase artist had to get a real job, and the universe could only
580	be a better place.
581
582	[E. Corey, Leviathan Wakes, p. 466]
583	%
584	> Speaking of Apple... Anybody remember their ads against multitasking? I
585	> always assumed that was against the Amiga as well but probably any
586	> computer at the time that did multitasking. I think their tag line was
587	> like "One person. One computer. One Task." or something like. Those ads
588	> really tried to sell the distraction of multitasking. What a crazy time
589	> in technology.
590
591	-P
592	Not as bad as telling us we are holding the phone wrong.
593
594	[http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=72811]
595	%
596	> Simon Cooke wrote:
597	> shrugs I don’t recall ever hearing that the length of a word was CPU specific.
598
599	I think I’m going to add this to my random signature collection.
600
601	[https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20050131-00/?p=36563]
602	%
603	Big congratulations to Acer, who used 55555555-5555-5555-5555-555555555555
604	for this in one of their db entries. Not only did they win the random
605	number generator lottery to get that, but also experienced a minimum
606	of 3 single bit errors, since the closest valid GUID to that is
607	55555555-5555-4555-9555-555555555555
608
609	[https://blog.uncooperative.org/blog/2014/10/23/uefi-security-databases/]
610	%
611	Contrary to what Carrier says, it is not clear to me that Amy Frank or
612	anyone else accused him of sexual assault. Carrier’s lawsuit makes
613	the tenuous argument that Amy Frank implied sexual assault by using the
614	hashtag #sexualassault.
615
616	[https://freethoughtblogs.com/atrivialknot/2017/01/04/i-liked-richard-carrier-past-tense/]
617	%
618	From: Linus Torvalds
619
620	And yes, a large part of this may be that I no longer feel like I can
621	trust "init" to do the sane thing. You all presumably know why.
622
623	[https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/7/6/577]
624	%
625	> How is the old way a problem?
626
627	That's systemd in a nutshell (and pulseaudio too). Replace well-known
628	things that are not broken with something obscure and clunky that thinks
629	it's smarter than you.
630
631	[https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9170111&cid=52207557]
632	%
633	Systemd is a cancer and it will keep spreading until the host is
634	dead. Just like cancer it's not malicious, it sincerely believes it knows
635	better than the healthy cells it's infecting, but that doesn't make it
636	less lethal.
637
638	[https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9552479&cid=52745591]
639	%
640	From: Richard Stallman
641
642	[...]
643
644	> then that sounds like a layering violation.
645
646	The layering authority has no jurisdiction over GNU.
647	If this solution works, and nobody proposes a better one,
648	we won't let "layering" get in the way.
649	%
650	"Teyrnas Unedig Prydain Fawr a Gogledd Iwerddon" shortened to "Teyrnas
651	Unedig" or "Y Deyrnas Unedig" abbreviated "DU", or "Rìoghachd Aonaichte
652	Bhreatainn is Èireann a Tuath" shortened to "Rìoghachd Aonaichte" are
653	also now legal names for the UK.
654
655	[Brian Inglis in 774ac519-ceb1-7c04-d2b5-2f2ed851cb61@SystematicSw.ab.ca]
656	%
657	From: Russ Allbery
658	To: tz@iana.org
659	Message-ID: <87h97n58bp.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>
660
661	> Companies are unlikely to change their processes unless changes break
662	> existing processes (like the version change) or changes are documented
663	> in an RFC, which can be presented to SOx auditors and their ilk, to
664	> document and justify why they spent money and changed a process, along
665	> with the documentation on change impact including budget,
666	> authorizations, and the dozens of other side efforts of production
667	> changes, summarized above by DG as "That doesn’t work for everyone."
668
669	A bit of a digression, but the way companies treat free software projects
670	and maintainers is a pet peeve of mine.
671
672	It should be obvious that the only people a company can expect to follow
673	any of those rules are people the company is paying or otherwise has a
674	contractual relationship with that requires following those rules.
675	Otherwise, the company should be prepared to pay one of their employees to
676	jump through those hoops if they want those hoops jumped through.
677
678	It's standard practice for companies who depend heavily on a free software
679	project to have an internal maintainer or advocate for that free software
680	project who will translate whatever the public maintainer does into the
681	form that the company needs to manage it internally, including maintaining
682	private branches as needed, pulling up unreleased patches as needed, and
683	adjusting for upstream changes that don't match the needs of the company
684	(or clearly advocating for compromises or modifications that work for the
685	entire community). This is a cost of doing business. My employer
686	certainly does this for free software we use. It's fairly normal.
687
688	Some companies don't want to spend that money, and try to do it on the
689	cheap by not having that person or the mechanisms for importing free
690	software properly. A few of them then complain at the free software
691	maintainer when they run into problems. But those complaints should not
692	carry any more weight than the complaints of any other user, and should be
693	weighed against the work style, goals, and available time of the free
694	software maintainer. After all, the actor in this situation that has (by
695	far) the most resources and hence the most ability to adopt to changes,
696	whether they want to or not, is the company, not the free software
697	maintainer.
698	%
699	[About the Unicode CLDR (Common Locale Data Repository) project, specifically, timezone names]
700
701	They also seem to think that abbreviations should be only used locally,
702	such as "BST" only being used by British English. One would think that if
703	an American was talking about DST in the UK they would also use the term
704	"BST", but no:
705	http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8498
706	%
707	To: Time zone mailing list <tz@iana.org>
708	Subject: Re: [tz] Request regarding IANA update for Novosibirsk Time Zone
709
710	Shruthi Venkataramanan -X (shruthve - WIPRO LIMITED at Cisco) wrote:
711	> When can we expect the updated version
712
713	About three weeks ago.
714	%
715	[...] trying to make digital files uncopyable is like trying to make water
716	not wet. -- Bruce Schneier
717	%
718	[...] in order to be a good Christian one must first be a great hypocrite.
719
720	[http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.de/2013/06/the-bible-is-nothing-but-hearsay.html]
721	%
722	Know that you suck, you suck so much that you suck the future you wich
723	was able to go back in time to suck you from the past. You are an
724	neverending paradoxial loop of suckage. Now suck the fuck off.
725
726	[http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/vats-vs-rtwp.23266/page-2]
727	%
728	From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
729
730	Arthur David Olson <arthurdavidolson@gmail.com> writes:
731
732	> From The Economist: "Why time may be running out for the leap second"
733	[http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/11/economist-explains-4]
734
735	\| The first is simple, ancient and intuitive, and based on the rotation of
736	\| the Earth, under which each complete rotation (or, equivalently, each of
737	\| the Sun's apparent trips through the sky) counts as one day.
738
739	Of course, these are actually not equivalent; they're different by a
740	full day per year.
741	%
742	Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir
743	de la faire plus courte. -- Blaise Pascal, Provincial Letters : Letter XVI.
744	[I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time.]
745	%
746	File names are infinite in length where infinity is set to 255 characters.
747	-- Peter Collinson, "The Unix File System"
748	%
749	Over the past 20 years - its never been a question of the "perfect
750	storage media vendor" - its been a question of "who has screwed
751	me - lately?".
752	-- JSS, former Amiga HW Engineer, Rework tech of 400,000 defective
753	Seagate HDD's, Class of '94.
754
755	[http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1095235&cid=26492885]
756	%
757	I also proposed making malloc(0) perfectly fine, since zero is a perfectly
758	fine value. I also, in the same letter, proposed making zero-sized
759	arrays legal, mostly so you could do the extend-the-struct trick for a
760	variable-sized array as the last field of the struct.
761
762	I got two letters back as answer to my one. #1: Malloc(0) shouldn't work
763	because zero-sized arrays don't work. #2: Zero-sized arrays shouldn't work
764	because malloc(0) doesn't work. Well played, ANSI C committee, and may
765	your lives be a living hell.
766
767	[Rob Pike in https://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=4142#c2]
768	%
769	Using a screwdriver was not a normal part of the experimental protocol.
770	[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Slotin#Criticality_accident]
771	%
772	Newbie: Hi. I've been using Lisp for about half a year now, programming
773	for three years. I discovered this group and wondered if you could help me
774	out with a problem I'm having?
775
776	Smug: Hi! Always glad to have new blood. Sure thing, just ask.
777
778	Snide: Heya New! You bet, ask anything and we'll try to help.
779
780	Newbie: Okay, I'm trying to filter a list, something like Perl's grep. I
781	want to set up a predicate and have the new list be only those elements
782	from the old list that satisfy it. I know there's some standard idiom for
783	doing this, I just can't find it anywhere...
784
785	Smug: Perl's grep was inspired by Lisp's higher-order functions, you know. :)
786
787	Newbie: Oh, cool. :)
788
789	Smug: But it's inferior since it has balky syntax.
790
791	Snide: You can do it with (mapcan (lambda (item) (when (predicate item) (list item))) list).
792	[http://c2.com/]
793	%
794	Unfortunately a Russian spy stole the last meg of a LISP program for
795	controlling our nuclear defense systems. Fortunately, it was all
796	right-parenthesis.
797	[http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhyWeHateLisp]
798	%
799	Always wanted to travel back in time to try fighting a younger version of
800	yourself?
801	Software development is the career for you!
802
803	[https://twitter.com/Loh/status/411282297816498176]
804	%
805	[...] undisguised clarity is easily mistaken for arrogance.
806	-- Richard Dawkins
807	%
808	There are many choices of elliptic-curve signature systems. The standard
809	choice, ECDSA, is reasonable if you don't care about simplicity, speed,
810	and security.
811
812	[http://blog.cr.yp.to/20140323-ecdsa.html]
813	%
814	[In answer to: "Is the NSA aware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS? The RSA?"]
815
816	We are unaware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS when properly implemented and
817	used for the purposes for which they both are designed.
818	-— National Security Agency, June 1992
819	%
820	In the past decade there have been many attacks against TLS. With the
821	exception of CRIME, not one of them relied on any results that were not
822	known at the time the TLS 1.0 standard was being written. [...] Every time
823	this standards group has had a choice to make regarding cryptography,
824	they have made the wrong one. [...] Were TLS to be submitted by an
825	undergraduate as a solution to this problem it would earn an F.
826
827	[http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg10598.html]
828	%
829	tiny hsv2rgb
830	float3 h2r(float h,float s,float v){return lerp(saturate((abs(frac(h+float3(1,2,3)/3)6-3)-1)),1,s)v;}
831
832	vec3 hsv(float h,float s,float v) {
833	return mix(vec3(1.),clamp((abs(fract(h+vec3(3.,2.,1.)/3.)6.-3.)-1.),0.,1.),s)v;
834	}
835	%
836	Haha, no FPS counter but rather a "Next frame"-button :)
837	Only Java makes it possible!
838
839	[http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=7920&page=1]
840	%
841	'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and
842	generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is
843	extremely poettering''
844	%
845	"There is no use in arguing with a man who can multiply anything by the square root of minus 1."
846	-- Pirates of Venus, Edgar Rice Burroughs
847	%
848	"I drank what?!"
849	-- Socrates
850	%
851	It would be bad for OpenPGP to have a standard that could not be
852	implemented on light bulbs (I used to say cell phones, but they're now
853	400MHz devices), forcing the light bulb people to use something else.
854
855	Jon Callas in
856	http://www.imc.org/ietf-openpgp/mail-archive/msg06396.html
857	%
858	"If you have four groups working on a compiler, you'll get a 4-pass compiler."
859	-- Conway's Law
860	%
861	The mac version doesn't work on older versions of the operating system
862	(this is part of Apple's planned obsolescence hellhole; the latest version
863	of xcode won't build for older systems but I'm forced to update to it
864	because the older ones won't build for newer systems and I've been forced
865	to update the operating system on my ipad so UGH; basically I have to
866	have multiple xcode versions installed and I really can't be bothered
867	untangling this mess right now so).
868
869	[http://mightyvision.blogspot.de/2013/03/7drl-success-86856527.html]
870	%
871	Option "NoPM" "boolean"
872	Disables something to do with power management events. Default: PM
873	enabled on platforms that support it.
874	[xorg.conf(5)]
875	%
876	> Yes, this would be something _in addition_ to what the FSF does.
877	> Grant money could be used to hire one or two fresh graduates that
878	> would work on code.
879
880	Graduates in which discipline? Computer science? This sounds to me
881	like the idea to hire one or two fresh graduates in English literature
882	and language with the idea to let them start writing novels.
883	[87liaj740v.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org]
884	%
885	[and that's why I don't support gentoo anymore]
886	As with Francois, I used to use ccache for recompiling packages that
887	hadn’t finished the first time — but for a different reason. At
888	the time, I had overrated memory, and a BIOS without a memory clock
889	option. The system was generally fine, but once in awhile would scramble
890	a memory transfer enough to cause a crash. CCache was a LOT of help in
891	that instance, as it’s what allowed me to even install Gentoo at all —
892	there’s no way I could have gotten thru gcc, (monolitic) X, glibc, or
893	the then unsplit KDE compiles, without it.
894	%
895	Kay, you are so full of sh*t that it's not funny. You're refusing to
896	acknowledge your bugs, you refuse to fix them even when a patch is
897	sent to you, and then you make excuses for the fact that we have to
898	work around your bugs, and say that we should have done so from the
899	very beginning.
900	[Linus in http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1369384]
901	%
902	systemd creates user session information in
903	/run/user/$user . I brought up with lennart the fact that this would
904	only permit one session per user. He rejected out of hand the fact
905	that more than one session would ever be needed, because Gnome only
906	allowed one session per user.
907	[http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/04/msg00751.html]
908	%
909	> Mailman archives! IIRC Heiko mentioned that there are more disputes
910	> about Lennart Poettering and his software on ALL mailing lists, than
911	> about anything else.
912	>
913	> Why is it like that?
914
915	Probably because he has all the arrogance of DJB but none of the skill.
916
917	[http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/44574]
918	%
919	[from a discussion about GNOME 3 "branding" mentality]
920
921	>> However, there are a number of serious problems:
922	>>
923	>> 1. Extensions break with every release. As Paolo said earlier, "This is
924	>> simply the result of not (yet) having a defined extension API." Yet this is
925	>> also part of the design: extensions specify versions of gnome-shell they
926	>> work with, so are trivially broken by new versions even if they might work.
927	>
928	> I don't think you understand well why this was designed this way.
929
930	That's the sort of thing people say to the judge of a serial killer.
931	The reasons don't matter for calling the results terrible.
932	%
933	(partial) Beaufort Table
934	Name # km/h (min) m/s (min)
935	Calm 0 0 0
936	Light Air 1 1.1 0.3
937	Light Breeze 2 5.6 1.6
938	Gentle Breeze 3 12 3.4
939	Moderate Breeze 4 20 5.5
940	Fresh Breeze 5 29 8
941	Strong Breeze 6 39 10.8
942	Moderate Gale 7 50 13.9
943	Fresh Gale 8 62 17.2
944	Strong Gale 9 75 20.8
945	%
946	"I have an open mind (I did consider voting liberal democrat once)."
947	- random imdb forum quote excerpt
948	%
949	"Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure
950	sign of a diseased mind." [Terry Pratchett]
951	%
952	The butcher who kills the baby to see how it comes apart did choose his
953	profession because of his sensitive soul. He chose it because death and
954	suffering, blood and gore, appeal to him. Dismembering the baby was always
955	on the cards.
956	%
957	[random comment from amule sources]
958	// trust noone ;-)
959	// lol, useless comment but made me lmao
960	// wtf you guys are weird.
961	%
962	Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid.
963	- Kin Hubbard
964	%
965	[random .sig]
966	I'm a muslim.
967
968	No I won't email you a bomb if you tick me off, but only because I don't know how to.
969	%
970	[...] don't do a double-take if you cuss in front of a woman. If she's read any
971	of the kernel code (notably arch/sparc/), she's heard of the word "fuck"
972	before.
973
974	[Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO]
975	%
976	<imho>
977
978	BASIC - fun! (For small programs at least.)
979	Smalltalk - fun! (Until you have to interact with anything else.)
980	Lisp - fun! (Until your eyeballs fall out from looking at too many parentheses.)
981	Arduino sketches - fun! (As long as they fit on one page.)
982
983	ObjC - sort of fun...once you understand 200 Cocoa classes.
984	Java - public static void not fun.
985	C++ - definitely not fun. STL seems like it should be fun but it isn't.
986	C - usually not fun.
987
988	What about modern scripting languages?
989
990	JavaScript - sort of fun! Until you have to deal with the DOM or various not-fun frameworks.
991	Ruby - fun! Until you try to do something with Rails.
992	Python - fun! Until you try to write a GUI app.
993
994	</imho>
995
996	[http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/2/]
997	%
998	"Die deutschen Zensoren------------------- --------------------------
999	Dummköpfe-------- -------------------------------------------"
1000	%
1001
1002	* GFX_IS_DISPLAY_MODE_SUPPORTED
1003	*
1004	* This routine sets the specified display mode.
1005
1006	n = n%2 ? n : ++n;
1007	[plan9, /sys/src/cmd/eqn/paren.c]
1008	%
1009	# The user is always right.
1010	if test "${PATH_SEPARATOR+set}" != set; then
1011	[autoconf]
1012	%
1013	from linux-2.6.37/fs/fcntl.c:
1014
1015	/*
1016	* We need to detect attempts to do dup2() over allocated but still
1017	* not finished descriptor. NB: OpenBSD avoids that at the price of
1018	* extra work in their equivalent of fget() - they insert struct
1019	* file immediately after grabbing descriptor, mark it larval if
1020	* more work (e.g. actual opening) is needed and make sure that
1021	* fget() treats larval files as absent. Potentially interesting,
1022	* but while extra work in fget() is trivial, locking implications
1023	* and amount of surgery on open()-related paths in VFS are not.
1024	* FreeBSD fails with -EBADF in the same situation, NetBSD "solution"
1025	* deadlocks in rather amusing ways, AFAICS. All of that is out of
1026	* scope of POSIX or SUS, since neither considers shared descriptor
1027	* tables and this condition does not arise without those.
1028	*/
1029	%
1030	Taken straight out of lilo... This way of intermixing case with if (0)
1031	was new to me:
1032
1033	switch(c)
1034	{
1035	case 'x': base=16; type \|= 4; if(0) {
1036	case 'o': base= 8; type \|= 4; } if(0) {
1037	case 'u': base=10; type \|= 4; } if(0) {
1038	case 'd': base=-10; }
1039	switch(type)
1040	{
1041	case 0: val=va_arg(ap, short); break;
1042	case 1: val=va_arg(ap, int); break;
1043	case 2: val=va_arg(ap, long); break;
1044	case 4: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned short); break;
1045	case 5: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned int); break;
1046	case 6: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned long); break;
1047	default:val=0; break;
1048	}
1049	cp = __numout(val,base);
1050	if(0) {
1051	case 's':
1052	cp=va_arg(ap, char *);
1053	}
1054	%
1055	Also, it is not true that UTC-1 is THE civilian time scale. While it
1056	is certainly one, physical seconds are as enshrined in law as UTC
1057	timestamps. Try arguing that you weren't caught speeding at midnight
1058	at the end of the year because the calculation should have used an
1059	extra second and see how far you get :-)
1060	[Nick Maclaren, in <8ta60d$aq6$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>]
1061	%
1062	> > Actually it's not fully backward compatible. As I was just reminded, the
1063	> > libc `sync' function, which is what the fileutils sync uses (sync is in
1064	> > fileutils, not sh-utils), is backward-compatible and thus not synchronous
1065	> > (it passes a zero wait flag in file_syncfs).
1066	>
1067	> Hmm. Hurd sync should use the libc sync function too; it should not
1068	> set the wait flag. If it does, that's a bug.
1069
1070	It must be a confusing feature, because the code was written by the
1071	infamous Michael I. Bushnell (may he rest in peace), who did not write bugs.
1072
1073	[from a random discussion about hurd, 199901032206.RAA27962@baalperazim.frob.com]
1074	%
1075	It is immediately apparent from these figures that moving-arm disks
1076	should never be used, neither for paging applications nor for any other
1077	heavy-traffic auxiliary memory applications.
1078
1079	Peter J. Denning -- Virtual Memory (1970)
1080
1081	http://portal.acm.org/ft_gateway.cfm?id=356573&type=pdf&coll=portal&dl=ACM&CFID=15151515&CFTOKEN=6184618
1082	%
1083	(i was impatient to bikeshed with diego on code indenting... btw this
1084	whole indentation rules/enforcement should gone, it's nonsense, i dont
1085	know any coder who uses consistent indentation over all his code... only
1086	beginner programmers do, sometimes. if anyone wants to read the code in
1087	nice indentation, he can anytime run a code formatter with his favourite
1088	settings)
1089
1090	http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2011-January/104674.html
1091	%
1092	How do I deal with memory leaks?
1093
1094	By writing code that doesn't have any. [...]
1095
1096	[From Bjarne Stroustrup's C++ Style and Technique FAQ]
1097	%
1098	This kind of arguments doesn't really make sense for Fedora. We should
1099	ship the best implementation, not the most "tried and true" one.
1100
1101	http://www.devheads.net/linux/fedora/development/libjpeg-f14.htm
1102	%
1103	The situation in the US: If you do anything before 2067 to preserve the
1104	recording on a wax-cylinder from 1895, the terrorists win. Do you really
1105	hate hard-working American families that much? Thank God Senator Orrin
1106	Hatch and the RIAA love America's children more than you do.
1107
1108	The situation in Europe: Sound recordings up to 1960 are already in the
1109	public domain. The terrorists have won. Our only hope of restoring the
1110	justice of eternal and infinite copyright (and therefore saving our own
1111	children's lives!) lies in the selfless efforts of the likes of Bono and
1112	Cliff Richard, as they cry all the way to the bank about artists not being
1113	rewarded for their creativity.
1114
1115	Let's hope that by the time you finish reading this sentence, copyright
1116	will have been extended another 99 years... you know, to justly compensate
1117	that bloke sitting by a mic in 1895. If he'd thought that in 2066
1118	librarians would be able to copy his recording without his permission, he
1119	would never have made it in the first place.
1120
1121	http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52573
1122	%
1123	"I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in
1124	future understand things" -- Jörg Schilling
1125	%
1126	Nobody has bought freaking 160GB of music from the iTunes store. I figured
1127	it out once, conservatively it was like $53,000 of music. And yet somehow
1128	Apple has managed to sell tens of millions of iPods with up to 160GB
1129	capacity, and even the smaller iPods would cost many thousands of dollars
1130	to fill from the iTunes store. The iPod was worthwhile because of piracy.
1131
1132	http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/09/intels-walled-garden-plan-to-put-av-vendors-out-of-business.ars?comments=1#comment-20806800
1133	%
1134	"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
1135	Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
1136	- Mohandas Gandhi
1137	%
1138	"And so I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
1139	the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the
1140	handiwork of the Lord."
1141	- Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" Vol. I, chapter 2, Murphy Ed. (p. 46)
1142	%
1143	Scientific Scrutiny and Disclosure
1144
1145	I was wondering how anyone possibly could conclude from this exchange that
1146	Lenski was hiding something. I came to the conclusion that some people
1147	must not understand how scientific scrutiny works. I wrote a guide.
1148
1149	Scientific scrutiny works like this:
1150	Scientist A publishes results.
1151
1152	Scientist B: A, I tried duplicating your experiment, but parameters x, y,
1153	and z that I need were not in your article. I need you to disclose to me
1154	x, y, and z that you used at the time. What are they?
1155
1156	A: x, y, and z are such and such.
1157	B: Using x, y, and z, my result doesn't agree with yours at all. Are you
1158	sure you did the procedures that you claimed?
1159	A: ...
1160	B: You fraud!
1161
1162	Scientific scrutiny does not work like this:
1163
1164	A publishes results.
1165
1166	B: I have Generic Skepticism toward your article. Under code viii of the
1167	Publication Criteria, I demand that you give me all of your data!
1168	A: ... ok...? It seems that everything you would need is already in the
1169	article. Did you have something specific in mind?
1170	B: A has refused to attach all data he has ever used for the
1171	experiment. He is withholding information and thus hiding something.
1172
1173	-- Carafe 01:42, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
1174	[http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservapedia:Lenski_affair_talk_1]
1175	%
1176	[regarding sites requesting visitors to allow advertisements and not block
1177	them because they need the money to operate]
1178
1179	"The readers are not the customer. The customer is the advertiser, and the
1180	readers are the product which that website promises to deliver. But the
1181	readers, being the product and not the customer, have no obligation to the
1182	site or its bottom line."
1183	%
1184	"..but a short time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of
1185	the Jewish religion before his principles were departed from by those
1186	who professed to be his special servants, & perverted into an engine for
1187	enslaving mankind, and aggrandizing their oppressors in church & state:
1188	that the purest system of morals ever before preached to man has been
1189	adulterated & sophisticated, by artificial constructions, into a mere
1190	contrivance to filch wealth & power to themselves, that rational men not
1191	being able to swallow their impious heresies, in order to force them down
1192	their throats, they raise the hue & cry of infidelity, while themselves
1193	are the greatest obstacles to the advancement of the real doctrines of
1194	Jesus, and do in fact constitute the real Anti-Christ."
1195	– Thomas Jefferson to William Baldwin, 19 January 1810 (draft – never sent)
1196	%
1197	Ignorance is the state of not having the data.
1198
1199	Idiocy is the state of having the data, but not being able to process it.
1200
1201	Willful ignorance is the state of censoring out all data you don’t want to hear.
1202	%
1203	["only those parts in the bible I like are authentic"]
1204
1205	>>>> but doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support slavery, genocide,
1206	>>>> and the beating of children?
1207	>>>
1208	>>> Subjugation of women...
1209	>>
1210	>> "doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support ..." Only for bible
1211	>> literalists and those who ignore what Jesus himself taught. By all
1212	>> means call out any religious person who is acting immorally but try to
1213	>> understand that the rest of us who are trying to follow the Way as best
1214	>> as we can don't usually have the clout to wrestle the Falwells and the
1215	>> Robertsons and their ilk to the ground. If we can agree on that, then,
1216	>> shake partner.
1217	>
1218	> Ever read Matthew 5:31-32? Jesus said it and taught it.
1219	>
1220	> He says my wife is an adultress since she divorced her 1st husband all
1221	> on account of her not taking his punches and kicks with good-natured
1222	> humor. That "pearl of wisdom" also says that I'm an adulterer for
1223	> choosing to spend the rest of my life with her.
1224	>
1225
1226	As written, it seems pretty clear. Until you remember the book of matthew
1227	was written decades after Jesus's death based on memories and oral
1228	traditions, not to mention translation inaccuracies and ulterior motives
1229	of the writers. No one really knows what Jesus really said or what he
1230	really meant. It could all be wildly inacurrate. I think the fault is in
1231	those who would use those words to justify their shabby treatment of you
1232	and your wife.
1233	%
1234	Atheists care about religion for the same reason other people care about
1235	cancer. If you aren't careful, it will kill you, and if you are, it could
1236	still kill you. - arestheblue
1237	%
1238	Once upon a time there was the CAT working group whose name was an
1239	abbreviation for "Common Authentication Technology". It produced IETF
1240	specifications for GSS-API.
1241
1242	It was succeeded by the kitten working group, which has been working on
1243	the next-generation GSS-API specifications.
1244
1245	There is now a proposal for a MOGGIES working group, which will work on
1246	Mechanisms Of Generating Generically Interoperable & Effective Security.
1247
1248	[http://fanf.livejournal.com/?style=mine]
1249	%
1250	[from the minix 3 users guide]
1251
1252	ELLE is a simple and clear text editor (once you've figured out the key commands).
1253	%
1254	[Tips how to deal with complaints when running TOR exit nodes]
1255
1256	During the conversation make sure you explain a few points:
1257	[...]
1258	You are not insane. You may be insane, but we don't want the
1259	complaintant to guess this is true.
1260	%
1261	"One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code."
1262	- Ken Thompson.
1263	%
1264	http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-01-16-50-Math-Project-released.html
1265
1266	"Scientific calculations are becoming a reality in Syllable"
1267
1268	Dunning-Kruger at its best - the tool that "carries Syllable to
1269	universities" can calculate sine and cosine values of integer inputs...
1270	source code excerpt:
1271
1272	int sn()
1273	{
1274	char pwr;
1275
1276	int input1 = 0;
1277	double output1 = 0;
1278
1279	system("clear");
1280	cout<<"This is the Sin() calculator, please enter a number"<<endl;
1281	cin>>input1;
1282	output1 = (sin(input1));
1283	cout<<"Sin() of"<< input1<<" is: "<<output1<<endl;
1284	cout<<"Please press 'a' for recalculate or 'm' to return to main menu"<<endl;
1285	cin>>pwr;
1286	if(pwr == 'a')
1287	sq();
1288	if(pwr == 'm')
1289	system("pause");
1290
1291	}
1292	%
1293	It allows a web browser and a web server to have a persistent, two-way
1294	full-duplex connection using just one TCP connection.
1295
1296	[mind-boggling, they provide TCP features with just TCP!!!11]
1297
1298	http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-02-22-16-WebSockets-for-Cheyenne-web-server.html
1299	%
1300	From the "my window manager is boiling bullshit, so you have to fix your
1301	app for me" department:
1302
1303	From: Evan LeCompte
1304
1305	Myself and many other members of the Archlinux community (and anyone using
1306	Linux with a tiling window manager for that matter) humbly beg you (the
1307	developers) for a single-windowed version of GIMP.
1308	%
1309	"I will give you credit for having balls. In spite of your comments being
1310	a PR ploy based on biased views, you consistently imply that we're just
1311	indulging in a PR ploy based on biased views."
1312
1313	http://tamino.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/old-news/
1314	%
1315	"We do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone ...
1316	Folks who want porn can buy an Android phone"
1317	– Steve Jobs[47]
1318
1319	"We can’t adapt European magazines to the standards of Utah."
1320	– Mathias Müller von Blumencron (editor of Der Spiegel, warning that
1321	the news magazine would not alter its content for the App Store)
1322	%
1323	The naked truth of it is, I have no shirt.
1324	-- William Shakespeare, "Love's Labour's Lost"
1325	%
1326	Subject: [Gimp-user] Completely off every imaginable topic;)
1327	From: Patrick Horgan
1328	Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:13:38 -0800
1329	To: GIMP Users <gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU>
1330
1331	Have you ever noticed that people's progress in using, supporting,
1332	writing bug reports for, and sometimes even developing for, writing
1333	documentation for, or translating for open source software is paralleled
1334	by their progress from top-posting to bottom posting to interlinear
1335	posting, to intelligent elision with interlinear posting? I see it on
1336	the gimp, and on other lists all the time.
1337
1338	[...]
1339	%
1340	"Logic has made me hated among men"
1341	— Peter Abelard
1342	%
1343	A man said to the universe:
1344	"Sir I exist!"
1345	"However," replied the universe,
1346	"The fact has not created in me
1347	A sense of obligation."
1348	- Steven Crane
1349	%
1350	He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool; avoid him.
1351
1352	He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a student; teach him.
1353
1354	He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep; wake him.
1355
1356	He who knows and knows that he knows is a wise man; follow him.
1357
1358	– Sanskrit Saying
1359	%
1360	[anonymised discussion]
1361	AGW-Denialist: ... blabla ... Karl Hopper ... blabla ... falsification ...
1362	Scientist: Karl Hopper, eh? You're like the energizer bunny of wrong.
1363	%
1364	[http://www.opengl.org/registry/specs/NV/render_texture_rectangle.txt]
1365
1366	Additions to the WGL Specification
1367
1368	First, close your eyes and pretend that a WGL specification actually
1369	existed. Maybe if we all concentrate hard enough, one will magically
1370	appear.
1371	%
1372	"All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust,
1373	sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others."
1374	- Douglas Adams
1375	%
1376	I like how whether a German is a "skinhead" or a "pussy", he's still considered a typical German.
1377	[http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=21884]
1378	%
1379	"A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will
1380	lose both, and deserve neither" -- Thomas Jefferson
1381	%
1382	"This is a further proof of the skill of astronomers
1383	in fitting a straight line to a circle!"
1384	- footnote in "OUR BEST FRIEND, THE COMA CLUSTER"
1385	http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Biviano/Biviano_contents.html
1386	%
1387	Am Grunde eines Problems sitzt immer ein Deutscher (Voltaire)
1388	%
1389	"I'm Prime Minister of Canada, I live here and I'm going to take a leak."
1390	- Lester Pearson in 1967, during a meeting between himself and
1391	President Lyndon Johnson, whose Secret Service detail had taken over
1392	Pearson's cottage retreat. At one point, a Johnson guard asked
1393	Pearson, "Who are you and where are you going?"
1394	%
1395	It's a known fact that not a single competent, experienced, skilled
1396	programmer in the world uses an IDE, nor has used one at any point in his
1397	or her career.
1398	[http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl/?node_id=636318]
1399	%
1400	It was stated that WIMPs and MACHOs were in the category of particle known
1401	as "Fabricated Ad hoc Inventions Repeatedly Invoked in Efforts to Defend
1402	Untenable Scientific Theories" (FAIRIE DUST).
1403	%
1404	I LOVE YOU
1405	["authentication succeeded" protocol token used by cvs pserver]
1406	%
1407	General consensus seems to be 2.6.18 is where the manure intersected with
1408	the air impeller.
1409
1410	Alan Cox
1411	%
1412	"I'm being elitist: awesome 3 is designed for power users
1413	with a minimum computer science background."
1414	%
1415	From: Eric Sosman
1416	Newsgroups: comp.std.c
1417	Subject: Re: about graphics
1418
1419	prince wrote:
1420	> how to get command over graphics in c language?
1421
1422	#include <stdio.h>
1423	int main(void) {
1424	puts("graphics\rcommand");
1425	return 0;
1426	}
1427	%
1428	I tried the Vista speech recognition by running the tutorial. I was
1429	amazed, it was awesome, recognised every word I said. Then I said the
1430	wrong word ... and it typed the right one. It was actually just
1431	detecting a sound and printing the expected word! -- pbhj on /.
1432	%
1433	[Bodo Moeller in http://groups.google.com/group/sci.crypt/msg/e79e65ed9077d0ba]
1434
1435	While the 2^128 step search [takes] a very long time indeed,
1436	it still is a constant-time attack.
1437	%
1438	"Verleumdung mußt Du frech betreiben, es wird schon etwas hängenbleiben!"
1439	-- Karl Joseph Simrock
1440	%
1441	From: David Damerell
1442
1443	Quoting Epic Campaigns <NoS...@NoSpamMe.com>:
1444	>Because C# is case sensitive, you can use the same name with different
1445	>caps to make it different.
1446
1447	Alternatively you could set your nose hair on fire, which will also be
1448	painful but will take less typing.
1449	%
1450	Well, I think comparing Common Lisp to Scheme is prima facie evidence
1451	of ill will, even if Common Lisp wins. It is somewhat like a supposed
1452	compliment like "man, you are even smarter than George W. Bush".
1453
1454	Erik Naggum in 3231422371368070@naggum.net
1455	%
1456	From: Hans-Jürgen Koch
1457
1458	> The GPL places additional restrictions on code. It is therefore less
1459	> free than the BSD.
1460	>
1461	> Free code + restrictions = non-free code.
1462
1463	The legal restriction that people must not enter your house uninvited
1464	by smashing the door adds to your freedom, don't you think so?
1465	%
1466	[C++ doesn't have the monopoly on hard-to-read diagnostics]
1467
1468	State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘(void ()(struct CoroSLF , struct CV *,
1469	struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
1470	from incompatible pointer type
1471	State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 3 of ‘(void ()(struct CoroSLF , struct CV *,
1472	struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
1473	makes pointer from integer without a cast
1474	State.xs:1927: error: too few arguments to function ‘(void ()(struct CoroSLF ,
1475	struct CV , struct SV *, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
1476	%
1477	The idea that governments have rights is absurd. People have rights. The
1478	people have delegated certain tasks to government for their own
1479	convenience, and have accepted limits on some minimal subset of their
1480	rights so that society can best protect the rest. Note that "society" is
1481	not the same as "the government"; the government is just a mechanism used
1482	by society to accomplish certain specific things.
1483
1484	[Chandon Seldon]
1485	%
1486	[Wikipedia]
1487	Differences between vi and Emacs
1488
1489	The neutrality of this article is disputed.
1490	%
1491	[lost the reference]
1492	Remember that openssl is generally the upper
1493	bound on how difficult a library can be to use.
1494	%
1495	"Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it's pointless
1496	to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and
1497	elitist. No novices asking stupid questions."
1498	%
1499	[aol 4tw, messages are edited for readability]
1500
1501	Subject: Re: fcrack help
1502	From: puezalb024@aol.com
1503	Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:27:46 -0500
1504	To: schmorp@schmorp.de
1505	X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
1506
1507	well how about making the manual more accessable u fukin cumtwat. take
1508	ur shitty software n shove it homo. this program sux anyway. i wouldnt
1509	have to read a manual if you actually knew how to create a good piece of a
1510	working program you stupid fuck. n let me tell you thats a good way to get
1511	your name out there or your software, just tel the customer their wrong,
1512	yeah, thatll work. may you rot in piss, if your head was on fire i would
1513	piss on your leg.
1514
1515	?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
1516	maybe you should go to school and learn how to spell cuz who the fuck
1517	spells marK with a c? musta been a baby of a couple retards
1518
1519	[then, a day later]
1520
1521	Subject: Re: fcrack help
1522	From: puezalb024@aol.com
1523	Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:02:20 -0500
1524	To: schmorp@schmorp.de
1525	X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
1526
1527	just kno that your an idiot. dont be mad at me cuz your mommy n daddy cant
1528	aford to buy you aol, its not my problem. like anyone is going to read
1529	your stupid post anyway.. noone likes your program, how about you read the
1530	previous posts n then we'll see. so you just keep sitting in your basement
1531	all by your lonesome?wasting your time making useless software buddy, cuz
1532	quiet frankly i could give 2 shits. oh yeah if you plan on posting my
1533	response make sure you dont edit nothing and include ALL of my response u
1534	fucking nerd. why dont you put it on ur myspace as well, print up a couple
1535	copies n post em on your walls too buddy
1536
1537
1538	-----Original Message-----
1539	From: Marc Lehmann <schmorp@schmorp.de>
1540	To: puezalb024@aol.com
1541	Sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 2:17 am
1542	Subject: Re: fcrack help
1543
1544
1545
1546	On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 07:27:46PM -0500, puezalb024@aol.com wrote:
1547	>
1548	> ?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
1549
1550	I was suspecting that aol users have, uhm, issues, but that's just hilarious :->
1551
1552	Note that I will publish your response so other people can share the fun,
1553	I hope you don't object :)
1554	%
1555	>Dummerweise steht es auch in der Welt der Wunder Zeitschrift und die ist
1556	>dafür bekannt Fakten zu liefern.
1557
1558	You made my day
1559	%
1560	[http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0810.1/2945.html]
1561
1562	Names are important. In fact, naming is often _more_ important than the
1563	implementation is. And that means that the implementation should follow
1564	the naming, or the implementation is wrong.
1565
1566	Linus
1567	%
1568	The ultimate hipocrisy is when people send you mails like this:
1569
1570	From: Christian Walde <mithaldu@yahoo.de>
1571
1572	I'll be utterly blunt now and ask this in advance: Are you being an asshole on purpose? If so, please just stop reading now and ignore a person trying t ...
1573
1574	[lots of kilobyte-sized single-line paragraphs omitted]
1575
1576	As too many people send me top- and fully-quoted
1577	emails, here is a guide on how to be considerate
1578	when sending emails to other people:
1579	http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
1580
1581	[which states to not use more than, say, 72 columns per line]
1582
1583	[mail quoted with permission btw.]
1584	%
1585	* k-god tries to think of the one mutt enhancement he'd like...
1586	<k-god> OK. Two. One: A backscratcher.
1587	<brendan> I believe muttng has one of those
1588	<k-god> Two: An implementation of the Internet Face Stab Protocol for MS Outlook lusers.
1589	<brendan> and I think outlook does that on its own :)
1590	%
1591	I had some issues though, functions like tmpfile() could only
1592	be used if run as administrator in windows.
1593
1594	Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <n.mavrogiannopoulos@gmail.com>
1595	%
1596	[on italy]
1597
1598	#24. fallingstones - 08-10 03:51
1599
1600	@youruncledarnell: First, sorry for my very bad English. Yes, the
1601	majority of Italians are totally idiot, otherwise the Prime Minister
1602	wouldn't be Silvio Berlusconi, and of course also the justice is not
1603	only politicized, but also spectacularized.
1604
1605	Not only. We've the only nation in all EU having a State-controlled
1606	corporation on copyright (SIAE). This corporation have also hated
1607	by a lot of artists, Italian and foreigner, 'cause the division of
1608	funds is "strange". If some of you can understand a lot of Italian, I
1609	suggest viewing an old service on Italian TV program "Report" talking
1610	on SIAE. You can read and viewing it on this url (sorry for long url)
1611
1612	http://www.report.rai.it/R2_popup_articolofoglia/0,7246,243%255E90082,00.html
1613
1614	Our legislation on copyright is basically on a law of 1943, approved
1615	during WWII by fascism and signed by the king. We're a Republic since
1616	1948 and our Costitution dislike fascism, but we've conserved all laws
1617	from fascism period.
1618
1619	We don't admit officially other copyright licenses, like GPL or CC,
1620	cause "legally" every creation would be registered in SIAE, giving to
1621	them all rights (also rights of persecuting uses not authorized). An
1622	author of a song can't authorize itself a pianist for playing his
1623	song. If the song is registered in SIAE (and if isn't, isn't legally
1624	created, and the author isn't recognized) the pianist MUST pay the
1625	royalties, that eventually will be refunded to him by the author (if
1626	they are accorded) when, after a lot of MONTHS, he receive it from
1627	SIAE.
1628
1629	We've also some laws against Freedom of Speech, for example our penal
1630	code include apology law, that pratically means you can't say why
1631	you consider wrong a penal law. People can ask (with a lot of signs)
1632	elections for deleting a law, but not for a penal law, or better can't
1633	explain why that law it's wrong and would be deleted. If you can't
1634	explain, you'll obviously will not found never other people signing
1635	your petition (and you need at least 500, and with a REAL signs, not
1636	electronic ones
1637
1638	#25. fallingstones - 08-10 03:52
1639
1640	Then, only parties have sufficient funds for these things, and we
1641	don't have a party sufficiently interested in freedom of speech
1642	(on internet and not). 'Cause limiting Freedom of Speech included
1643	CONTROL. We've the last western country in Freedom of Speech (at least
1644	based on Freedomhouse annual statistic), the only "Partly Free" in
1645	western country.
1646
1647	I'm so sorry for being Italian, for our very stupid justice, for our
1648	very bad country laws and on all for our very stupid prime minister,
1649	but trust me, I can assure you we don't be ALL so stupid. In last
1650	elections, with an absurd law on elections, other parties have been
1651	deleted from parliament. Now we've only two main coalitions, the
1652	Berlusconi's one and the Veltroni's one. All of them have approved
1653	laws against freedom on internet, and generally against technology
1654	innovations. For these reason, all the last governments are fascists,
1655	also the governments of "center-left".
1656
1657	Again, sorry you and all for my bad English. I hope you can understand.
1658
1659	If I can, I suggest Brokep creating a guide for using TOR, a little
1660	great program (and it's free) for surfing the net anonymously and
1661	without any restriction.
1662
1663	Brokep and all TPB staff, go forward forever. You're my personal myth,
1664	and the hope that good people using brain like you exists into the
1665	world.
1666
1667	Long life to the Bay, forever.
1668	Sorry for the long message and sorry if I'm using TOR, I hope you understand.
1669	Thank you for reading.
1670	%
1671	> > don't even attempt to compare the nvidia driver support to ati's craptacular drivers.
1672	>
1673	> don't even attempt to post a useful comment
1674
1675	How very ironic.
1676	%
1677	With or without religion, we would have good people doing good things and
1678	evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that
1679	takes religion."
1680
1681	--Steve Weinberg
1682	%
1683	http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/en/why-not-use_java.xhtml
1684	%
1685	[Kurt Roecks on his change that had totally broken openssl for two years in debian]
1686	[Folks, fix valgrind bugs in your code, not in other people's code,]
1687	[if you don't understand how valgrind works]
1688
1689	"I've ran all the regression test thru valgrind, using the memset()
1690	solves most of those. As far as I know, commenting out those 2 calls
1691	solved all the warnings valgrind reported."
1692	%
1693	[From: "H.Merijn Brand"]
1694	The more I (have to) work with java, the more I am convinced perl is
1695	the right tool for me.
1696	%
1697	[deliantra]
1698	02:58:42 [Kyle] my summoned pets ate my rod of show invisible
1699	%
1700	I pretend to work because the Soviet government pretends to pay me.
1701	%
1702	cerebro ~# fuser -km /wd_old
1703	/wd_old: 5270c 12266c 12274c 12275
1704	Suddenly the Dungeon collapses!! - You die...
1705	%
1706	From the CFA633 datasheet:
1707
1708	* Do not eat the LCD panel.
1709	%
1710	>> Well, in German there is no "sports" but just "Sport".
1711	>> So by that little S at the end of sports, you could tell it's English.
1712
1713	It's the same in English as it is in German; the little S at the end
1714	actually tells you it's American.
1715	%
1716	[better do not hire this programmer]
1717	From: Tony Jackson <tj76351@gmail.com>
1718	Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
1719	Subject: Avoiding dereference of NULL pointer
1720
1721	Hi
1722
1723	I'm quite new to C programming - I have more of a Java background: maybe
1724	someone here can advise me.
1725
1726	I'm nearly finishing a little program but it has some hard-to-find bugs
1727	that basically lead to a couple pointers sometimes being NULL at the
1728	wrong time. As it stands the program just bombs out when it tries to
1729	dereference the NULL, which obviously isn't good (especially when it
1730	happens with the customer looking on!!).
1731
1732	I don't think there's any serious problem to worry about, and what I'd
1733	like to do is be able to ignore the dereference attempt and just carry
1734	on - probably the next time round the loop the pointer will be OK. In
1735	Java, I'd put a try block around the main loop, and if we catch an
1736	exception then just jump back to the start of the main loop. What's the
1737	corresponding thing in C?
1738
1739	Thanks!
1740	%
1741	[from mozilla 1.7b sources]
1742
1743	// See bug 53763.
1744	nsCOMPtr<nsIViewManager> kungFuDeathGrip;
1745	nsIPresShell *shell = doc->GetShellAt(0);
1746	if (shell) {
1747	kungFuDeathGrip = shell->GetViewManager();
1748	%
1749	[the beginning, and most common codepath, of getpid() on my linux 2.6
1750	amd64 box in a program using glibc 2.3's pthreads. thats fucking cool]
1751
1752	0x000000300049af30 <getpid+0>: mov %fs:0x94,%edx
1753	0x000000300049af38 <getpid+8>: cmp $0x0,%edx
1754	0x000000300049af3b <getpid+11>: mov %edx,%eax
1755	0x000000300049af3d <getpid+13>: jle 0x300049af41 <getpid+17>
1756	0x000000300049af3f <getpid+15>: repz retq
1757	%
1758	(A lot of this OPM stuff seems to come straight from the twilight
1759	zone. It's normal to have error codes indicating that there was a disk
1760	error or that a network packet got garbled, but I'm sure Windows Vista
1761	must be the first OS in history to have error codes for things like
1762	"display quality too high").
1763
1764	[http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html]
1765	%
1766	Subject: Re: The right answer of -1^2 is?
1767
1768	> I don't think there's a real Right Way here other than reintroducing a
1769	> mechanism for explicitly signaling the grouping. Maybe parentheses? ;)
1770
1771	Nah. Use whitespace, like Fortress. Then you can distinguish between
1772
1773	x / y * z
1774
1775	and
1776
1777	x / y * z
1778
1779	That'll never cause problems, right? :)
1780
1781	(To be fair, I like Fortress. However, it did have some, er, unique
1782	design decisions.)
1783	%
1784	endergt:
1785	> snoofle:
1786	> > Every system (*nix, PC's, etc.) has a hex
1787	> > editor with a string-search capability - really not that hard if
1788	> > you understand what you are doing...
1789	>
1790	> Out of curiosity - what is the hex editor on a default Windows installation?
1791
1792	debug
1793	%
1794	C# is for people who want to have one arm strapped behind their back because it reduces the probability of making a mistake by 50%.
1795
1796	Java is for people who prefer to have the arm chopped off.
1797	%
1798	Steve Loughran: "The EU interop laws often come up in discussion, and they
1799	are interesting. They say that you are allowed to do reverse engineering
1800	for hardware interop. Not software: hardware."
1801
1802	Not sure what you're talking about, but Council Directive 91/250/EEC seems
1803	pretty clear to me (or as clear as legal texts can be to me...): "Article
1804	6 Decompilation
1805
1806	1. The authorization of the rightholder shall not be required where
1807	reproduction of the code and translation of its form within the meaning
1808	of Article 4 (a) and (b) are indispensable to obtain the information
1809	necessary to achieve the interoperability of an independently created
1810	computer program with other programs, provided that the following
1811	conditions are met: [...]"
1812	%
1813	http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/
1814	%
1815	Why Linux Sux ?
1816
1817	Easy .
1818	Security : most hackable operating systems are unix based .
1819	Portability : try installing unix on cutting edge hardware . bad luck it won`t work . install windows (the oldest) on any ... it will .
1820	Help : try get help for linux . after exploring tons of sites and forums the help you got is useless . for windows you just call them .
1821	Applications : we all know there are more and more on windows . linux will probably never get so many .
1822	GUI : we know how customisable is the windows gui . and how stable .
1823	Gaming : ...anyone got an ideea of a linux game that is really cool ?
1824	Cost : install linux as server ... it is free no ? but you have to pay a sysadmin . or learn a lot . buy a lot of books . using windows ... just click next . if you are not dumb you might make it secure too (reading help does HELP! ) .
1825	Virus : due to the fact that windows is so flexible it is logcal to have viruses . afterall the human body has more than a monkeys one .
1826	Stability : reboot windows 100 times by using the case button . perhaps a scandisk will appear . reboot linux ... ups kernel panic .
1827
1828	You don`t have money for OS ? Work ! Oh you hate miscrosoft and bill gates
1829	no ? Sure thing ... stupid and lazy people generally hate smart and hard
1830	working ones . Screw linux users .
1831	%
1832	19:26:03 <schmorp> did you know the us is officially metric? for over 100 years, too?
1833	19:26:27 -cfbot:#cf- [moerderer] it is also officially a democracy, go figure
1834	19:26:34 <schmorp> good point :)
1835	%
1836	> The Dell 30"...
1837
1838	It is big, but some of the reviews have not been so glowing, or rather,
1839	the glowing has been highly asymmetric.
1840	%
1841	Re: USA- an underdeveloped country with potentials
1842
1843	> > u don´t use your wealth with responsibility, you only think about yourself and shrug your shoulders with comments like, "we all have the same chance", I´m a selfmade man", "everyone has to take care of themselves".
1844	>
1845	> yeah, that's why your little brothers decided to save the world - including your grandparents' sorry asses - from hitler, because we think only of ourselves!
1846	>
1847	> your welcome, pinhead!
1848
1849	Even though I´m tired of hearing "we saved your a beep during ww2 I will respond.
1850
1851	1. Did you? Or did your great grandfathers? Maybe they were better?
1852	2. You came into the war very late, and that was strictly for buisness reasons. You need countries to trade with. The true hero in WW2 was actually Russia doing alot more then US ever did, not saying that I support Russia today.
1853	3. One good thing in the past doesn´t make up for bad things in your society today.
1854	4. With those retorics you will never learn anything from your own mistakes since you always can go back and talk about your effort 100 years ago.
1855	%
1856	[discussion about some changes in windows longhorn]
1857	Let's hope that some day Microsoft will catch up to what the
1858	public-domain tz code was doing back in 1986. (Good work, Arthur!)
1859	%
1860	ntfs ist dennoch für datei und ordnersicherheit zuständig.
1861
1862	Zum Beispiel unter Linux wenn man auf fat32 festplatten zugreifen will ist
1863	es kein problem, wenn man aber die festplatte auf ntfs convertiert hat,
1864	dann funktioniert dass nicht mehr der zugriff auf die festplatte.
1865
1866	Denn das ist die sicherheit vor zugriffen auf daten von anderen usern und
1867	anderen betriebssystemen.
1868
1869	Habe fat32 festplatte gehabt(zugriff von linux möglich) dann habe ich es
1870	auf ntfs umconvertiert und dann ging es nicht mehr.
1871
1872	habe nochmal in meinen unterlagen nachgeschlagen, haben erst ca. vor 3
1873	Wochen die Unterlagen vom Lehrer bekommen und ich sag nochmal, zittiere
1874	Lehrer: Fat32 sollte man heutzutage nicht mehr verwenden außer man hat
1875	Windows 98 und man möchte Dualbootkonfiguration erzielen. NTFS ist
1876	einfach für bessere Sicherheit zuständig.
1877
1878	Frage?
1879	Hast du Windows und Linux beides auf deinem Laptop oder Standpc?
1880	Wenn ja hattest du vorher eine fat32 festplatte?
1881	Hast du sie dann auf ntfs umconvertiert?
1882
1883	Freundlichen Grüße von Vista-Ultimate-Besitzer
1884	%
1885	"In this time of war against Osama bin Laden and the oppressive
1886	Taliban regime, we are thankful that OUR leader isn't the spoiled son
1887	of a powerful politician from a wealthy oil family who is supported by
1888	religious fundamentalists, operates through clandestine organizations,
1889	has no respect for the democratic electoral process, bombs innocents,
1890	and uses war to deny people their civil liberties." --The Boondocks
1891	%
1892	19:35:41 <elmex> dieses 'restore session' is soo sinnlos bei firefox
1893	19:35:54 <elmex> wenn die webseite die ihn gecrasht hat immer weieder crasht
1894	19:36:18 <schmorp> tja, bei mir restored er trotz einstellung nie etwas
1895	19:36:24 <schmorp> fragt sich wer mehr glück hat
1896	%
1897	What has happened is that Dave Winer got off a rant against JSON as
1898	reinventing XML's (and more specifically XML-RPC's) wheel:
1899
1900	God bless the re-inventers
1901
1902	Gotta love em, because there's no way they're going to stop breaking
1903	what works, and fixing what don't need no fixing
1904
1905	Crockford gets off a very pithy response:
1906
1907	The good thing about reinventing the wheel is that you can get a round
1908	one.
1909	%
1910	[rfc2665]
1911	The dot3StatsEtherChipSet object has now been deprecated.
1912	Implementation feedback indicates that this object is much more
1913	useful in theory than in practice.
1914	%
1915	15:40:51 <elmex> son buero is faszinierend
1916	15:41:08 <elmex> staendig hoerste leute seuftzen und jammern, und in 90% der faelle hats
1917	mit windows zu tun
1918	15:41:15 <elmex> oder mit software die dort laeuft
1919	15:41:37 <elmex> irgendwem is heut mrogen die mail inbox verloren gegangen
1920	15:41:47 <elmex> und hat sie dann wiedergefunden
1921	15:41:49 <elmex> irgendwie
1922	15:41:50 <elmex> irgendwo
1923	15:42:07 <elmex> achja, und backups gabs auch keine mehr, seit sich die passwoerter
1924	geaendert haben :->
1925	15:42:19 <elmex> (also seit wenigen tagen)
1926	15:47:10 <elmex> es ist auch erstaunlich wie wenig arbeit eigentlich so erledigt wird nach
1927	15:30
1928	15:47:48 <elmex> (mit ausnahmen)
1929	15:48:13 <elmex> aber 50-80% der zeit wird mit kommunikation verbracht
1930	%
1931	[http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=895394]
1932	The SparcStation2 technical docs recommend catting your /vmunix file to /dev/audio as a speaker test.
1933	If you go nearly deaf from the painful noise, then your speaker works.
1934	%
1935	http://www.azillionmonkeys.com/qed/optimize.html
1936
1937	Strictly for beginners
1938
1939	Techniques you might not be aware of if you have not been programming for the past 15 years of your life:
1940	[...]
1941	%
1942	http://tmbo.org/offensive/images/picpile/Welcome%20to%20paradise%21.jpg
1943	%
1944	17:34:47 <elmex> hab gehoert solaris soll GPL werden, oder zumindest denkt sun drueber nach :->:
1945	17:34:53 <schmorp> ja klar
1946	17:34:57 <schmorp> alles was lebenszeitende hat
1947	17:34:58 <schmorp> wird gpl
1948	17:35:02 <schmorp> weil sie denken, dann wirds übelreben
1949	17:35:05 <schmorp> bei mozilla hats auch gwekappt
1950	17:35:08 <elmex> hehe
1951	17:35:13 <schmorp> und die brrowserentwicklung unter linux locker ein jahr verzögert
1952	17:35:46 <elmex> dann kann joerd schilling ja endlich sein lieblings system entwickeln :-
1953	17:35:48 <elmex> :->
1954	17:35:58 <schmorp> macht er doch schon die ganze zeit
1955	17:36:02 <schmorp> chillingos, bzw.
1956	17:36:18 <elmex> uh
1957	17:36:53 <schmorp> ich finds nicht mehr
1958	17:36:57 <schmorp> er arbeitet jedenfalls dran
1959	17:38:27 <schmorp> SchilliX
1960	17:38:29 <schmorp> genau!
1961	17:38:30 <schmorp> :)
1962	17:38:33 <elmex> sueees
1963	17:38:34 <schmorp> http://developer.berlios.de/projects/schillix/
1964	17:39:59 <zaphod> omg das ist nicht wahr
1965	17:40:20 <schmorp> ihr kennt die geheimnisse und wunder unserer welt nicht
1966	17:40:32 <zaphod> das kann bestimmt CDs brennen wie nix anderes
1967	17:40:42 <elmex> lol
1968	17:41:06 <schmorp> :)
1969	%
1970	[A Gentoo User]
1971	First FreeBSD is UNIX. Yes FreeBSD runs beter then all other Linux
1972	distro’s but FreeBSD lacks any graphical features(stolen linux features
1973	doesn’t count) so it is only ment for guys with an old grey beards.
1974	[...] That’s why for geeks/nerds/professionals (like me) bsd exists [...]
1975	Gentoo is ment for professionals that need a system for a really exact
1976	environment and think LFS is to much work.
1977	[http://www.playingwithwire.com/2007/01/why-gentoo-shouldnt-be-on-your-server/]
1978	%
1979	20:08 <schmorp> my guess is, purely practically
1980	20:08 <schmorp> if copyright/patent law continues to go away from the original reasons
1981	20:08 <schmorp> that they were created for
1982	20:08 <schmorp> you will at one point have a civil war
1983	20:08 <schmorp> right now, you already have large-scale civil disobedience
1984	20:10 <scortch> i very much hope that it can be turned around before that happens. not the
1985	least reason is, in a Blade Runner dystopia, there isnt a lot that individuals
1986	can do
1987	20:11 <scortch> i.e. militarily
1988	20:11 <scortch> ah wait.
1989	20:12 <scortch> we are forgetting that low technology solutions are always around
1990	20:12 <schmorp> terrorism :)
1991	20:12 <schmorp> now i finally see the whole plot
1992	20:13 <scortch> that's quite a story
1993	%
1994	23:49 <ruskie> in my experience apart from a few exceptions all gentoo people are rude
1995	23:58 <Err> it seems logical that there is a strong correlation
1996	between (people who like to waste their time, and their computer's
1997	processing time, rebuilding things that have been built a million
1998	times before) and (idiots)
1999	23:58 <Err> (parenthesized for easy parsing ;-) )
2000	23:59 <Err> there are certainly exceptions to every rule - but in
2001	general, gentoo users think that they're getting magical properties
2002	out of rebuilding the same code everybody else builds
2003	%
2004	[http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/]
2005	Bruce Schneier decrypted the Bible. The plaintext read, "Bruce Schneier".
2006	%
2007	[http://www.mail-archive.com/cygwin-patches@cygwin.com/msg03644.html]
2008
2009	Internet Explorer: KB329781 "HTTP File Upload Operation Takes a Long Time
2010	to Complete". The printing subsystem: KB816627 "TCP/IP port printing may
2011	be slow in Windows 2000"
2012
2013	In the first KB microsoft amusingly states in relation to the fact that
2014	upload speed is limited to 80kbps no matter what the network bandwidth
2015	that "this behaviour is by design". The mind boggles...
2016	%
2017	[so much for type-safety]
2018	List<Integer> lst = new ArrayList<Integer>;
2019	lst.add(null);
2020	int x = 1 + lst.get(0);
2021	%
2022	[just for reference]
2023	Wenn man weiss, dass man in seinem Leben nicht mehr Glücklich werden
2024	kann, und sich von Tag zu Tag die Gründe dafür häufen, dann bleibt
2025	einem nichts anderes übrig als aus diesem Leben zu verschwinden. Und
2026	dafür habe ich mich entschieden. Es gibt vielleicht Leute die hätten
2027	weiter gemacht, hätten sich gedacht "das wird schon", aber das wird
2028	es nicht.
2029
2030	Man hat mir gesagt ich muss zur Schule gehen, um für mein leben zu
2031	lernen, um später ein schönes Leben führen zu können. Aber was bringt
2032	einem das dickste Auto, das grösste Haus, die schönste Frau, wenn es
2033	letztendlich sowieso für’n Arsch ist. Wenn deine Frau beginnt dich zu
2034	hassen, wenn dein Auto Benzin verbraucht das du nicht zahlen kannst, und
2035	wenn du niemanden hast der dich in deinem scheiss Haus besuchen kommt!
2036
2037	Das einzigste was ich intensiv in der Schule beigebracht bekommen habe
2038	war, das ich ein Verlierer bin. Für die ersten jahre an der GSS stimmt
2039	das sogar, ich war der Konsumgeilheit verfallen, habe danach gestrebt
2040	Freunde zu bekommen, Menschen die dich nicht als Person, sondern als
2041	Statussymbol sehen. Aber dann bin ich aufgewacht! Ich erkannte das die
2042	Welt wie sie mir erschien nicht existiert, das sie eine Illusion war,
2043	die hauptsächlich von den Medien erzeugt wurde. Ich merkte mehr und
2044	mehr in was für einer Welt ich mich befand. Eine Welt in der Geld alles
2045	regiert, selbst in der Schule ging es nur darum. Man musste das neuste
2046	Handy haben, die neusten Klamotten, und die richtigen "Freunde". hat
2047	man eines davon nicht ist man es nicht wert beachtet zu werden. Und diese
2048	Menschen nennt man Jocks. Jocks sind alle, die meinen aufgrund von teuren
2049	Klamotten oder schönen Mädchen an der Seite über anderen zu stehen. Ich
2050	verabscheue diese Menschen, nein, ich verabscheue Menschen.
2051
2052	Ich habe in den 18 Jahren meines Lebens erfahren müssen, das man nur
2053	Glücklich werden kann, wenn man sich der Masse fügt, der Gesellschaft
2054	anpasst. Aber das konnte und wollte ich nicht. Ich bin frei! Niemand darf
2055	in mein Leben eingreifen, und tut er es doch hat er die Konsequenzen zu
2056	tragen! Kein Politiker hat das Recht Gesetze zu erlassen, die mir Dinge
2057	verbieten, Kein Bulle hat das Recht mir meine Waffe wegzunehmen, schon gar
2058	nicht während er seine am Gürtel trägt.
2059
2060	Wozu das alles? Wozu soll ich arbeiten? Damit ich mich kaputtmaloche um
2061	mit 65 in den Ruhestand zugehen und 5 Jahre später abzukratzen? Warum
2062	soll ich mich noch anstrengen irgendetwas zu erreichen, wenn es
2063	letztendlich sowieso für'n Arsch ist weil ich früher oder später
2064	krepiere? Ich kann ein Haus bauen, Kinder bekommen und was weiss ich
2065	nicht alles. Aber wozu? Das Haus wird irgendwann abgerissen, und die
2066	Kinder sterben auch mal. Was hat denn das Leben bitte für einen
2067	Sinn? Keinen! Also muss man seinem Leben einen Sinn geben, und das
2068	mache ich nicht indem ich einem überbezahlten Chef im Arsch rumkrieche
2069	oder mich von Faschisten verarschen lasse die mir erzählen wollen wir
2070	leben in einer Volksherrschaft. Nein, es gibt für mich jetzt noch eine
2071	Möglichkeit meinem Leben einen Sinn zu geben, und die werde ich nicht wie
2072	alle anderen zuvor verschwenden! Vielleicht hätte mein Leben komplett
2073	anders verlaufen können. Aber die Gesellschaft hat nunmal keinen Platz
2074	für Individualisten. Ich meine richtige Individualisten, Leute die
2075	slebst denken, und nicht solche 'Ich trage ein Nietenarmband und bin
2076	alternativ' Idioten!
2077
2078	Ihr habt diese Schlacht begonnen, nicht ich. Meine Handlungen sind ein
2079	Resultat eurer Welt, eine Welt die mich nicht sein lassen will wie ich
2080	bin. Ihr habt euch über mich lustig gemacht, dasselbe habe ich nun mit
2081	euch getan, ich hatte nur einen ganz anderen Humor! Von 1994 bis 2003/2004
2082	war es auch mein Bestreben, Freunde zu haben, Spass zu haben. Als ich
2083	dann 1998 auf die GSS kam, fing es an mit den Statussymbolen, Kleidung,
2084	Freunde, Handy usw.. Dann bin ich wach geworden. Mir wurde bewusst das
2085	ich mein Leben lang der Dumme für andere war, und man sich über mich
2086	lustig machte. Und ich habe mir Rache geschworen! Diese Rache wird so
2087	brutal und rücksichtslos ausgeführt werden, dass euch das Blut in den
2088	Adern gefriert. Bevor ich gehe, werde ich euch einen Denkzettel verpassen,
2089	damit mich nie wieder ein Mensch vergisst! Ich will das ihr erkennt, das
2090	niemand das Recht hat unter einem faschistischen Deckmantel aus Gesetz und
2091	Religion in fremdes Leben einzugreifen!
2092
2093	Ich will das sich mein Gesicht in eure Köpfe einbrennt! Ich will
2094	nicht länger davon laufen! Ich will meinen Teil zur Revolution der
2095	Ausgestossenen beitragen!
2096
2097	Ich will R A C H E !
2098
2099	Ich habe darüber nachgedacht, dass die meisten der Schüler die mich
2100	gedemütigt haben schon von der GSS abgegangen sind. Dazu habe ich zwei
2101	Dinge zu sagen:
2102
2103	1. Ich ging nicht nur in eine klasse, nein, ich ging auf die ganze Schule.
2104
2105	Die Menschen die sich auf der Schule befinden, sind in keinem Falle
2106	unschuldig! Niemand ist das! In deren Köpfen läuft das selbe Programm
2107	welches auch bei den früheren Jahrgängen lief! Ich bin der Virus der
2108	diese Programme zerstören will, es ist völlig irrelewand wo ich da
2109	anfange.
2110
2111	2. Ein Grossteil meiner Rache wird sich auf das Lehrpersonal richten,
2112	denn das sind Menschen die gegen meinen Willen in mein Leben eingegriffen
2113	haben, und geholfen haben mich dahin zu stellen, wo ich jetzt stehe; Auf
2114	dem Schlachtfeld! Diese Lehrer befinden sich so gut wie alle noch auf
2115	dieser verdammten schule!
2116
2117	Das Leben wie es heute täglich stattfindet ist wohl das armseeligste was
2118	die Welt zu bieten hat!
2119
2120	S.A.A.R.T. - Schule, Ausbildung, Arbeit, Rente, Tod
2121
2122	Das ist der Lebenslauf eines "normalen" Menschen heutzutage. Aber
2123	was ist eigentlich normal? Als normal wird das bezeichnet, was von der
2124	Gesellschaft erwartet wird. Somit werden heutzutage Punks, Penner,
2125	Mörder, Gothics, Schwule usw. als unnormal bezeichnet, weil sie den
2126	allgemeinen Vorstellungen der Gesellschaft nicht gerecht werden, können
2127	oder wollen. Ich scheiss auf euch! Jeder hat frei zu sein! Gebt jedem
2128	eine Waffe und die Probleme unter den Menschen lösen sich ohne jedliche
2129	Einmischung Dritter. Wenn jemand stirbt, dann ist er halt tot. Und? Der
2130	Tod gehört zum Leben! Kommen die Angehörigen mit dem Verlust nicht klar,
2131	können sie Selbstmord begehen, niemand hindert sie daran!
2132
2133	S.A.A.R.T. beginnt mit dem 6. Lebensjahr hier in Deutschland, mit der
2134	Einschulung.
2135
2136	Das Kind begibt sich auf seine perönliche Sozialisationsstrecke, und
2137	wird in den darauffolgenden Jahren gezwungen sich der Allgemeinheit, der
2138	Mehrheit anzupassen. Lehnt es dies ab, schalten sich Lehrer, Eltern,
2139	und nicht zuletzt die Polizei ein. Schulpflicht ist die Schönrede von
2140	Schulzwang, denn man wird ja gezwungen zur Schule zu gehen. Wer gezwungen
2141	wird, verliert ein Stück seiner Freiheit. Man wird gezwungen Steuern zu
2142	zahlen, man wird gezwungen Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungen einzuhalten, man
2143	wird gezwungen dies zu tun, man wird gewzungen das zu tun. Ergo: Keine
2144	Freiheit! Und sowas nennt man dann Volksherrschaft. Wenn das Volk hier
2145	herrschen würde, hiesse es Anarchie!
2146
2147	WERDET ENDLICH WACH - GEHT AUF DIE STRASSE - DAS HAT IN DEUTSCHLAND
2148	SCHONMAL FUNKTIONIERT!
2149
2150	Nach meiner Tat werden wieder irgendwelche fetten Politiker dumme
2151	Sprüche klopfen wie "Wir halten nun alle zusammen" oder "Wir
2152	müssen gemeinsam versuchen dies durchzustehen". Doch das machen
2153	sie nur um Aufmerksmakeit zu bekommen, um sich selbst als die Lösung
2154	zu präsentieren. Auf der GSS war es genauso... niemals lässt
2155	sich dieses fette Stück Scheisse von Rektorin blicken, aber wenn
2156	Theater-aufführungen sind, dann steht sie als erste mit einem breiten
2157	Grinsen auf der Bühne und präsentiert sich der Masse!
2158
2159	Nazis, HipHoper, Türken, Staat, Staatsdiener, Gläubige... einfach alle
2160	sind zum kotzen und müssen vernichtet werden! (Den begriff "Türken"
2161	benutze ich für alle HipHopMuchels und Kleingangster; Sie kommen nach
2162	Deutschland weil die Bedingungen bei ihnen zu hause zu schlecht sind,
2163	weil Krieg ist... und dann kommen Sie nach Deutschland, dem Sozialamt der
2164	Welt, und lassne hier die Sau raus. Sie sollten alle vergast werden! Keine
2165	Juden, keine Neger, keine Holländer, aber Muchels! ICH BIN KEIN SCHEISS
2166	NAZI) Ich hasse euch und eure Art! Ihr müsst alle sterben!
2167
2168	Seit meinem 6. Lebensjahr wurde ich von euch allen verarscht! Nun müsst
2169	ihr dafür bezahlen!
2170
2171	Weil ich weiss das die Fascholizei meine Videos, Schulhefte, Tagebücher,
2172	einfach alles, nicht veröffentlichen will, habe ich das selbst in die
2173	Hand genommen.
2174
2175	Als letztes möchte ich den Menschen die mir was bedeuten, oder die jemals
2176	gut zu mir waren, danken, und mich für all dies Entschuldigen!
2177
2178	Ich bin weg...
2179	%
2180	01:14 <scortch> its an NP hard for computers
2181	01:14 <elmex> no, it's NP hard for anyone
2182	%
2183	19:18 <elmex> schmorp: eben anner kasse stand jemadn hinter mir und faselte mit seinen
2184	kumpels zum thema bill gates: "... er ist ja mein vorbild, nicht jetzt
2185	wegen dem geld, sondern wegen dem charakterlichen und so ... der hat ja
2186	die haelfte seines vermoegens gespendet.... und ne jacht hat der auch...
2187	abe was fuer eine... voll fettes schiff...'
2188	19:19 <schmorp> rofl
2189	19:19 <schmorp> aber nicht wegem dme geld
2190	19:19 <elmex> der studiert glaub ich informatik :)
2191	19:19 <elmex> das is die neue generation
2192	19:19 <elmex> 'generation gates'
2193	19:19 <schmorp> die frage schiene mcirosoft oder schiene java erübrigt sich
2194	%
2195	http://www.bissantz.de/pub/Luegen_mit_Statistiken.pdf
2196	%
2197	[http://use.perl.org/~luqui/journal/]
2198	[The reason I left Perl 6]
2199
2200	The virtue of social art was extinguished when the solutions that I had
2201	worked for weeks on and I considered truly beautiful lost to syntax
2202	bloat and "DWIM tables". It bascially came down to the rest of the team
2203	considering Perl much more pragmatically than I did, which may end up
2204	better for the end result anyway—it is hard to tell.
2205	%
2206	http://www.ta-sa.org/files/sc/perl6_timeline_updated.png
2207	%
2208	00:20 <schmorp> Mikachu: xjdic lists ぶっかける as to dash (slosh) water (or other liquid)onapersonorinaperson'sface
2209	00:21 <Mikachu> yeah, that made me laugh a bit
2210	00:21 <Mikachu> "or other liquid, know what i mean, nudge nudge"
2211	%
2212	[very funny read]
2213	Hack-a-Bike
2214	USK@vZ8crASNqmw9APiGDtTxV0YvspklNnOTmQin0ZsPLdk,bnUaihNj6Ww8CFvBQo4UwH0pYiS0hOyeKIxvO0tZdJk,AQABAAE/hack-a-bike/1/index_de.html
2215	%
2216	Now that habeas corpus and other basic rights, including the right not to
2217	be tortured while interrogated, have now been deemed unnecessary, more
2218	Americans than ever have been thinking of getting out the door while they
2219	still can.
2220
2221	http://www.boingboing.net/2006/10/23/getting_out_your_gui.html
2222	%
2223	23:52 <elmex> Zaehlen sie die wichtigsten Berufsfelder der IT-Branche auf:
2224	Java-code-affe, Bussiness-scheisse-laber-affe, Windows-admin,
2225	Windows-user, echter Admin und echter Programmierer.
2226	%
2227	[without words]
2228	http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/1030/104_print.html
2229	%
2230	[http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030217/cockburn]
2231	We're in the twilit world of the "thought crime." Have a photo of a kid in
2232	a bath on your hard drive, and the prosecutor says you were looking at it
2233	with lust in your heart, and that is tantamount to sexually molesting an
2234	actual kid in an actual bath.
2235	%
2236	Don't put stock in the Constitution, anymore. It IS just a piece of paper,
2237	today (actually, since Oct 17th). The Military Commissions Act of 2006
2238	makes the Constitution null and void. You (regardless of your citizenship)
2239	may be held with no charges, for no reason, for an indefinite time, with
2240	absolutely no judicial oversight. It is completely legal for the
2241	government to pick you up and for you to disappear with no one ever knowing
2242	what happened to you.
2243	%
2244	--
2245	Markus Schulz
2246
2247	A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion
2248	Q: Why is top posting bad?
2249	%
2250	On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 02:05:19AM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
2251	> 1. It's not that I don't want to, but I _can't_ implement kprobes and not
2252	> due to lack of skills, but lack of resources. (There is a subtle but
2253	> important difference.)
2254
2255	Um, given the amount of time you've spent trying to pursuade us why
2256	you can't implement kprobes for m68k, perhaps you would have
2257	implemented it already if you had buckled down and started coding
2258	instead of flaming about why everyone else should bend over backwards
2259	just because you don't have time for your arch? :-)
2260
2261	- Ted
2262	%
2263	[http://richarddawkins.net/mainPage.php?bodyPage=article_body.php&id=183]
2264	"I want to see young people who are as committed to the cause of Jesus
2265	Christ as the young people are to the cause of Islam. I want to see them
2266	as radically laying down their lives for the gospel as they are over in
2267	Pakistan and Israel and Palestine and all those different places... Excuse
2268	me, but we have the truth!"
2269	%
2270	[Meijin Title Game #3, Takao Shinji vs. Cho U]
2271	(22) archimed [18k?]: actually, what are considered to be their respective strengths?
2272	(22) zephi [ 7k+]: takao's strength is kickin cho u's butt
2273	(22) zephi [ 7k+]: cho u's a big fighter
2274	%
2275	[nethack extinctionist faq]
2276	The first "extinctionist" ascension on r.g.r.n. (at least from what I can
2277	tell) seems to have been by Matthew Bourland in 2000, who although he
2278	didn't actually kill everything, certainly genocided all (at the time) 256
2279	monster types that were genocidable. Then, after that he extincted all
2280	other randomly generated monsters. On the other hand, having 120 kills
2281	in every category is perhaps more noteworthy (or foolhardy?) than simply
2282	genociding every monster.
2283
2284	I'd recommend a dose of both. Kill them until they're dead and then
2285	genocide them for good measure!
2286	%%
2287	[nethack instadeath faq]
2288
2289	* eating Death, Famine, Pestilence, Medusa, or green slime corpses
2290
2291	Well let's face it, this is just plain stupid. So don't do it!
2292	%
2293	17:57 <zaphod> Murch: Stroemungslehre ist geil
2294	17:57 <Murch> zaphod: hm?
2295	17:57 <zaphod> Murch: "Diese Gleichungen sind, zumindest aus der Sicht eines
2296	Ingenieurs, als exakt anzusehen."
2297	17:58 <Murch> lol
2298	%
2299	22:51 -cfbot:#cf- [Wrathmagic] oh i love killing pirates yes i do i love stabbing them through and through
2300	%
2301	[Brazil and Bush’s War on Terror]
2302	http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/blumen3.html
2303	%
2304	http://trac.syr.edu/tracreports/terrorism/169/
2305	%
2306	http://web3.0log.org/2006/09/01/new-secure-browser-browzar-is-fake-and-full-of-adware/
2307
2308	There was time when badware developers tried to install ad pages as homepage
2309	or searchpage in user’s IE by any possible means. Nowadays users install
2310	adware voluntarily and write news about it. True web2.0 style!
2311	%
2312	http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/05/universal_time_zone.html
2313
2314	At the United Nations today President George W. Bush
2315	announced a proposal to unify all the world's time zones
2316	into a single Universal Time Zone (UTZ), formerly known as
2317	the Eastern Time Zone.
2318	[...]
2319	Britain immediately supported the US plan. "If it means
2320	sleeping in broad daylight then we'll stick with our
2321	allies," said Tony Blair, "Of course there's never broad
2322	daylight in the UK, so it's not much of an issue."
2323	%
2324	Wow, and this in security-relevant code... (taken from libc's ld.so)
2325
2326	_dl_profile_output
2327	= &"/var/tmp\0/var/profile"[__libc_enable_secure ? 9 : 0];
2328	%
2329	[CRYPTO-GRAM]
2330	By January 1st, 2007, everyone crossing the border between the U.S. and Canada is supposed to have
2331	a passport. This is because of terrorism, of course. But now we learn that ferries and private
2332	watercraft will be exempt. One of two things is true. Either passports are required for
2333	security, in which case we should interfere with ferries. Or they're for show, in which case we
2334	can just do what's convenient. Or maybe we just know that terrorists never take ferries. I get
2335	that security is a trade-off, but this is kind of silly.
2336
2337	http://tinyurl.com/zl5af
2338	%
2339	[famous last words]
2340	11:22 <kaizoku> what do you mean by plonk?
2341	%
2342	What make a provider a tier 2, versus a tier 1 provider...
2343
2344	"We are a tier 1 provider" = "I am a salesperson."
2345
2346	"They are a tier 2 provider." = "I am a salesperson and they are our competitor".
2347
2348	--
2349	Jay Hennigan
2350	%
2351	http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/17_Mistakes_Microsoft_Made_in_the_Xbox_Security_System
2352	%
2353	[latimes story about a man returning to the us from iraq and being
2354	held for selling copyrighted images on t-shirts by the department
2355	of homeland security]
2356	http://tinyurl.com/ourlr
2357	%
2358	"Some other types of programs won't make the transition to Windows x64
2359	seamlessly, either. Microsoft ships WinXP x64 with two versions of
2360	Internet Explorer, a 32-bit version and a 64-bit version. The 32-bit
2361	version is the OS default because nearly all ActiveX controls and the like
2362	are 32-bit code, and where would we be if we couldn't execute the full
2363	range of spyware available to us?"
2364
2365	[http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/64-bits/index.x?pg=1]
2366	%
2367	[http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/kglobalaccel__x11_8cpp-source.html]
2368	00279 if( pEvent->xkey.state & KKeyServer::modXNumLock() ) {
2369	00280 // TODO: what's the xor operator in c++?
2370	%
2371	<Mikachu> give a man a fix and he's running urxvt one day, teach a man
2372	to fix and he will run urxvt all his life
2373	%
2374	The NSA Phone Call Database: The European Perspective
2375	http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2006/05/the_nsa_phone_c.html
2376	%
2377	Oh, I agree completely. No game has ever let me down the way Oblivoin
2378	did. I"m still hoping mods and expansions will fix it but there's no way
2379	I'm pre-ordering the next one. I'm afraid it really will be a first person
2380	shooter.
2381
2382	The really scary thing is that it's not just video games. Book sales were
2383	done last year because people just don't read as much anymore. I'm having
2384	to dumb down my newspaper editorials because people used to want analysis
2385	they could use to make their own opinions, now they seem to just want
2386	opinions they can quote without having to think for themselves. McDonalds
2387	puts pictures of the food on the cash register instead of numbers.
2388
2389	Face it. The human race is devolving. In 500 years the best selling RPG
2390	in the universe will be a console game where you roleplay an ape named
2391	Fred, swing on vines and throw your own excrement. You'll have one stat,
2392	apeness. It wiill effect everything you do in a subtle, yet unexplained
2393	way.
2394
2395	And Bethesda fan boys will be screaming "TES 504: Monkeypoo good. You go
2396	bak cave, no good rpger. Two stats bad. Made feces throw too hard. Shiney
2397	key graphic good. Make me happy."
2398
2399	shrugs But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
2400	%
2401	> So Hitler was a pacifist because he let other people kill for him? Most
2402	> D&D computer games require you to kill people (not simply knock them
2403	> out). Also just because you don't kill doesn't make you a pacifist (see
2404	> above comment about Hitler).
2405
2406	I invoke the European rule: In any given argument, the first side to
2407	mention Hitler loses.
2408	%
2409	[siggraph '99 course 12]
2410	Unfortunately, including <windows.h> has the unfortunate side effect of
2411	introducing literally thousands of macros and type declarations into
2412	your compilation environment. This undesirable "name space pollution"
2413	can sometimes affect source code portability by conflicting with your
2414	program's own macros and types. This can particularly be a problem for
2415	UNIX programmers that are not familiar with all the junk that comes with
2416	including <windows.h>.
2417	[...]
2418	Win32's requirement that you use wglGetProcAddress is a real drag,
2419	but if you do everything right, using OpenGL extensions works and
2420	gives you access to amazing new OpenGL features. And let's be honest;
2421	wglGet- ProcAddress is hardly the only annoying and awkward thing about
2422	programming with the Win32 API. Still, by using the C preprocessor and
2423	coding carefully, you actually can write OpenGL programs that use OpenGL
2424	extensions and compile from the same source code for both UNIX and Win32
2425	environments.
2426	%
2427	http://neil.franklin.ch/Usenet/alt.folklore.computers/19981207_Computers_are_so_STY00PID
2428	%
2429	[http://www.voynich.net/Kryptos]
2430	"It's easier to rig an electronic voting machine than a Las Vegas slot machine"
2431	%
2432	[CRYPTO-GRAM 2006-03-15]
2433	[...] There are all sorts of interests vying for control of your
2434	computer. There are media companies that want to control what you can
2435	do with the music and videos they sell you. There are companies that
2436	use software as a conduit to collect marketing information, deliver
2437	advertising or do whatever it is their real owners require. And there are
2438	software companies that are trying to make money by pleasing not only
2439	their customers, but other companies they ally themselves with. All these
2440	companies want to own your computer.
2441
2442	Some examples:
2443
2444	1. Entertainment software: In October 2005, it emerged that Sony had
2445	distributed a rootkit with several music CDs -- the same kind of
2446	software that crackers use to own people's computers. This rootkit
2447	secretly installed itself when the music CD was played on a computer.
2448	Its purpose was to prevent people from doing things with the music that
2449	Sony didn't approve of: It was a DRM system. If the exact same piece of
2450	software had been installed secretly by a hacker, this would have been
2451	an illegal act. But Sony believed that it had legitimate reasons for
2452	wanting to own its customers' machines.
2453
2454	2. Antivirus: You might have expected your antivirus software to detect
2455	Sony's rootkit. After all, that's why you bought it. But initially, the
2456	security programs sold by Symantec and others did not detect it,
2457	because Sony had asked them not to. You might have thought that the
2458	software you bought was working for you, but you would have been wrong.
2459
2460	3. Internet services: Hotmail allows you to blacklist certain e-mail
2461	addresses, so that mail from them automatically goes into your spam
2462	trap. Have you ever tried blocking all that incessant marketing e-mail
2463	from Microsoft? You can't.
2464
2465	4. Application software: Internet Explorer users might have expected
2466	the program to incorporate easy-to-use cookie handling and pop-up
2467	blockers. After all, other browsers do, and users have found them
2468	useful in defending against Internet annoyances. But Microsoft isn't
2469	just selling software to you; it sells Internet advertising as well. It
2470	isn't in the company's best interest to offer users features that would
2471	adversely affect its business partners.
2472
2473	5. Spyware: Spyware is nothing but someone else trying to own your
2474	computer. These programs eavesdrop on your behavior and report back to
2475	their real owners -- sometimes without your knowledge or consent --
2476	about your behavior.
2477
2478	6. Update: Automatic update features are another way software companies
2479	try to own your computer. While they can be useful for improving
2480	security, they also require you to trust your software vendor not to
2481	disable your computer for nonpayment, breach of contract or other
2482	presumed infractions.
2483
2484	Adware, software-as-a-service and Google Desktop search are all
2485	examples of some other company trying to own your computer. And Trusted
2486	Computing will only make the problem worse.
2487
2488	There is an inherent insecurity to technologies that try to own
2489	people's computers: They allow individuals other than the computers'
2490	legitimate owners to enforce policy on those machines. These systems
2491	invite attackers to assume the role of the third party and turn a
2492	user's device against him.
2493	[...]
2494	You can fight back against this trend by only using software that
2495	respects your boundaries. Boycott companies that don't honestly serve
2496	their customers, that don't disclose their alliances, that treat users
2497	like marketing assets. Use open-source software -- software created and
2498	owned by users, with no hidden agendas, no secret alliances and no
2499	back-room marketing deals.
2500	%
2501	[John Carmack on Java]
2502	Write-once-run-anywhere. Ha. Hahahahaha. We are only testing on four
2503	platforms right now, and not a single pair has the exact same quirks. All
2504	the commercial games are tweaked and compiled individually for each
2505	(often 100+) platform. Portability is not a justification for the awful
2506	performance.
2507	%
2508	[http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,415577,00.html]
2509
2510	"Wenn ich höre, dass die Telekom mit Microsoft kooperiert, da wird mir
2511	ganz anders", sagte Herbert Tillmann, der Vorsitzende der Produktions-
2512	und Technikkommission von ARD und ZDF dem Blatt. Man bevorzuge offene
2513	Standards und wolle sich der Plattform von Microsoft nicht ausliefern.
2514	%
2515	http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2006/05/german_cannibal.html
2516	%
2517	"Ok, this is complete off topic but WHY do so many Americans think that
2518	once your cross the 49th parellel into Canada that they are going out into
2519	a technology- and civilization-free zone???"
2520	http://p203.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm31
2521	%
2522	http://funroll-loops.org/
2523	%
2524	[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL]
2525	When Direct3D was released in 1995, Microsoft, SGI, and Hewlett-Packard
2526	initiated the Fahrenheit project, which was a joint effort with the
2527	goal of unifying the OpenGL and Direct3D interfaces - and again, adding
2528	a scene-graph API. It initially showed some promise of bringing order
2529	to the world of interactive 3D computer graphics APIs, but on account
2530	of financial constraints at SGI and general lack of industry support
2531	it was abandoned. The engineers involved at SGI held a beach party in
2532	celebration - complete with bonfires on which they burned piles of
2533	Fahrenheit documentation.
2534	%
2535	[Whenever I try to use svn, it fails me. Sure I modified files, but whats
2536	the point of a RCS system that can't cope with that? Besides, I am 100%
2537	sure its much slower than CVS]
2538	cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
2539	svn: Won't delete locally modified directory '.'
2540	svn: Left locally modified or unversioned files
2541	[Exit 1]
2542	cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
2543	svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
2544	[Exit 1]
2545	cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn diff
2546	svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
2547	[Exit 1]
2548	[Great, my local fixes are lost now, too. Whoever let this horror loose on
2549	humanity deserves to be shot or something like that]
2550	%
2551	[http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431.12]
2552
2553	... I'm evaluating a bunch of J2EE portlet-enabled JSR-compliant MVC
2554	role-based CMS web service application container frameworks. ...
2555	%
2556	Subject: RE: Question about Leap Second Features
2557
2558	> Is there any implementation for this information on Microsoft operating
2559	> systems ?
2560
2561	Any Microsoft operating system that is accurate down to the second can
2562	probably be hand-picked from Bill Gates' garage ... ;-)
2563
2564	Jesper
2565	%
2566	[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ballmer]
2567
2568	"As far as I can tell, the phrase 'I. Love. This. Company.
2569	YEEEAAAAAAAAARARRRRARAGH!' has FIVE words, not four."
2570
2571	~ Oscar Wilde on Steve Ballmer having four words for you.
2572	%
2573	http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/kafkaesque.html
2574	%
2575	[http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136541]
2576
2577	You've doubled the work. People don't like that. People REALLY don't
2578	like that. The number of duplicate bugs filed against the chooser is
2579	evidence for this. Furthermore, click depth is a standard metric for
2580	measuring HCI usability, and this dialog has moved in the absolute wrong
2581	direction. People won't be satisfied until they get the entry box back
2582	into the dialog. You can grind your teeth and pull your hair all you want,
2583	but that's the truth.
2584	%
2585	[de.alt.ufo]
2586
2587	Braun Ludwig <Wick84@gmx.de> wrote:
2588
2589	> 1. Ufos sind für mich Flugobjekte des US Militärs mit einen neuartigen
2590	> Atrieb, der mit einen Motorgenerator von ca 100000 Volt und einer
2591	> Stromstärke von ca 2 mA, einer elektronischen Steuereinheit und einer
2592	> Antriebseinheit auf Kondensator Basis betrieben wird. Zur Erklärung des
2593
2594	Aaha! Naja, die Elektrogravitation ist wirklich seit langem bekannt. Damit aber
2595	einen Antrieb zu realisieren halte ich für weniger wahrscheinlich. So abstrakt
2596	ist diese Funktion nicht und es wären schon mehr als ein Mensch dahinter
2597	gekommen. Ich sicher auch.
2598
2599	Allerdings schreibst Du hier von einem Generator. Es stellt sich die Frage
2600	was genau man mit 2 mA erzeugen will. Jeder Paralyzer schafft das mit
2601	der Hälfte der Spannung auch. Ich habe aber noch kein Opfer schweben
2602	gesehen. Im Gegenteil - die bewegen sich eigentlich immer ziemlich schnell
2603	in Richtung Boden.
2604
2605	[...]
2606
2607	> Dieser Ufo Flugzeug Typ wird in erster Linie als Spionage und
2608	> Aufklärungsflugobject eingesetzt.
2609
2610	Verstehe. Was ist in Afrika so interessant? Bekanntlich gibt oder gab es
2611	da bisher die überwiegenden Sichtungen. Was will z.B. der Ami von den
2612	Eingeborenen erfahren? Wie man richtig Reis oder Getreide kocht?
2613
2614	[...]
2615
2616	> 2. ausserirdische Ufo Flugobjekte.
2617	> Es gibt maximal 1 oder 2 oder drei ausserirdische Flugzeug
2618	> Beobachtungen, die tatsächlich wahr sind.
2619
2620	Nur drei? Das muss ich mir merken, damit ich das nicht vergesse. Welche
2621	mögen das Deiner Meinung nach wohl gewesen sein? Das ist ja noch
2622	schlimmer als Cenap, die von etwa 100.000 Fällen 1% erforscht haben,
2623	die wiederum schon im Vorfeld als 'normal' geklärt waren. Mit dieser
2624	Meinung solltest Du zu WW gehen und dich vorstellen. Der nimmmt Dich
2625	sofort.
2626	%
2627	[http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/Tech/connect4.htm]
2628	By the way, decryption can be performed easily in your editor with syntax
2629	like !!tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M (Sorry if you had the misfortune to buy your
2630	software from Microsoft.)
2631	%
2632	http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/
2633	%
2634	> BTW I have 2 English words for you, FUCK YOU
2635
2636	Why, that's a rather intimate proposal. I never realised you were
2637	gay. While I would like to offer the hand of friendship, I am
2638	afraid that the thought of sex with a grown man doesn't really do
2639	much for me so I shall have to decline with a modicum of regret.
2640	%
2641	http://www.ta-sa.org/files/java_godkk.jpg
2642	http://www.chunder.com/carrots/javasux.html
2643	%
2644	Subject: Re: Docket No. 2005-22114
2645	From: Rodrigo Severo
2646	Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:04:33 -0200
2647	To: tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov
2648
2649	On 1/23/06, Paul Eggert wrote:
2650
2651	"David Braverman" <david@inner-drive.com> writes:
2652	It is a bit ironic that the US is less efficient than Brazil in fixing
2653	obviously-broken regulations like this.
2654
2655	I'm sorry but I have to ask: where is the irony in this? I hope the answer
2656	isn't obvious to people from US and I'm not seeing it just because I'm
2657	brazilian ;)
2658	Rodrigo Severo
2659	%
2660	[Frankly, I'd just like to know what GNOME did wrong to deserve this :]
2661
2662	http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/faq.html#1.13
2663	%
2664	[Another entry in the series "make this a blog":]
2665
2666	I wanted to see it for myself, and directed my browser to http://www.mpaa.org/.
2667
2668	Got "Bad Request (Invalid Header Name)".
2669
2670	Well.. some investigation showed that it didn't like the headers added by
2671	squid (in mostly default debian config).
2672
2673	sigh
2674	%
2675	A LIBERAL DECALOGUE
2676	By Bertrand Russell
2677
2678	Perhaps the essence of the Liberal outlook could be summed up in a new
2679	decalogue, not intended to replace the old one but only to supplement
2680	it. The Ten Commandments that, as a teacher, I should wish to promulgate,
2681	might be set forth as follows:
2682
2683	1. Do not feel absolutely certain of anything.
2684
2685	2. Do not think it worth while to proceed by concealing evidence, for the
2686	evidence is sure to come to light.
2687
2688	3. Never try to discourage thinking for you are sure to succeed.
2689
2690	4. When you meet with opposition, even if it should be from your husband
2691	or your children, endeavor to overcome it by argument and not by
2692	authority, for a victory dependent upon authority is unreal and illusory.
2693
2694	5. Have no respect for the authority of others, for there are always
2695	contrary authorities to be found.
2696
2697	6. Do not use power to suppress opinions you think pernicious, for if you
2698	do the opinions will suppress you.
2699
2700	7. Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted
2701	was once eccentric.
2702
2703	8. Find more pleasure in intelligent dissent that in passive agreement,
2704	for, if you value intelligence as you should, the former implies a deeper
2705	agreement than the latter.
2706
2707	9. Be scrupulously truthful, even if the truth is inconvenient, for it is
2708	more inconvenient when you try to conceal it.
2709
2710	10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool's
2711	paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness."
2712
2713	"A Liberal Decalogue" is from The Autobiography of Bertrand Russell,
2714	Vol. 3: 1944-1969, pp. 71-2.
2715	%
2716	[http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/12/09/502014.aspx]
2717	John Hoy, President of the DVD Copy Control Association, made
2718	the following statement to the Library of Congress in its 2003
2719	Anticircumvention rulemaking proceedings:
2720
2721	"Furthermore, if a consumer in the United States desires to view a DVD disc
2722	that has been region coded only for Europe, then that consumer is free to
2723	purchase a DVD player (either hardware or software) that is coded to play
2724	European DVDs. No legal restrictions apply-either through the CSS license
2725	or otherwise-to the importation and use of non-U.S. region players in the
2726	United States."
2727	---
2728	It must really suck to live in a nation where competition is actually
2729	outlawed - you have to feel sorry for all those people oppressed by
2730	communists and socialists. Oh, wait.... ;)
2731	---
2732	"You ain't seen nothin' yet! I heard that the new HD-DVDs or Blue-ray
2733	discs (whichever win eventually) will be street-encoded. You have to
2734	quote your street name while buying DVDs and they won't work in the next
2735	street. The hidden reason for this is that MPAA wants to charge upwards of
2736	$1000 per DVD for those living in million dollar mansions."
2737
2738	This isn't far from the truth. Blu-ray disks for PlayStation3 will only
2739	play in ONE player on earth. MS will eventually make up something similar.
2740	%
2741	[gnome-clock and my radio-clock failed miserably, /bin/date and Linux worked:]
2742	Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC
2743	%
2744	[http://www.slate.com/id/2133993/]
2745
2746	Vulnerabilities deemed "critical" have forced the company to release an
2747	almost unending stream of patches and fixes [...]
2748
2749	Sure, it might be nice to connect your computer and your television
2750	set. But is it worth it to give hackers access to your television?
2751
2752	Even if we don't use them, we suffer from them.
2753
2754	[...] a former senior security analyst for the House of Representatives,
2755	believes that Microsoft is a threat to national security.
2756	%
2757	[Copyright History - US view]
2758	http://www.culturaleconomics.atfreeweb.com/cpu.htm
2759	%
2760	[I just re-read the unix haters hadnbook]
2761	X has had its share of $5,000 toilet seats -- like Sun's Open Look clock
2762	tool, which gobbles up 1.4 megabytes of real memory! If you sacrificed all
2763	the RAM from 22 Commodore 64s to clock tool, it still wouldn't have enough
2764	to tell you the time. Even the vanilla X11R4 "xclock" utility consumed
2765	656K to run. And X's memory usage is increasing.
2766	%
2767	[Got to remember this way of arguing, it's great if it works:]
2768
2769	"Most people, I think, don’t even know what a rootkit is, so why should
2770	they care about it?"
2771	-- Thomas Hesse, Sony BMG’s Global Digital Business President.
2772
2773	[see also http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004145.php]
2774	%
2775	Let me repeat again: Formal axiomatic systems are a failure!
2776	-- Gregory Chaitin
2777	%
2778	13:49 <RayTracer> pixelsize=14 ist so groß wie 8 beim xchat wenn ich den
2779	gnome-settings-daemon nicht lade
2780	13:50 <schmorp> autsch, was hat das mit dem gnome-settings-daemon zu tun? ist ja hart!
2781	[...]
2782	13:51 <RayTracer> wenn ich den nicht lade sind alle gtk-programme mit großem Font,
2783	wenn ich ihn lade werden sie klein gemacht und wenn ich ihn töte ist
2784	wieder alles groß
2785	%
2786	[man perlsub]
2787	That prints "unphooey". (Yes, there are still unresolved issues
2788	having to do with visibility of @_. I’m ignoring that question
2789	for the moment. (But note that if we make @_ lexically scoped,
2790	those anonymous subroutines can act like closures... (Gee, is this
2791	sounding a little Lispish? (Never mind.))))
2792	%
2793	[glibc's bits/socket.h]
2794
2795	if ((size_t) __cmsg->cmsg_len < sizeof (struct cmsghdr))
2796	/* The kernel header does this so there may be a reason. */
2797	return 0;
2798	%
2799	http://www.wicked-vision.com/zensur/zensur/zensur_bei_filmen.html
2800
2801	> Die Argumente liefen insbesondere darauf hinaus, dass es sich bei den
2802	> Filmen, auf die in Anspielungen verwiesen wird, um Filme handelt, die
2803	> entweder von der FSK gekennzeichnet wurden mit "nicht freigegeben
2804	> unter 18 Jahren", die von der Bundesprüfstelle indiziert wurden oder
2805	> die sogar durch entsprechende Beschlüsse bundesweit beschlagnahmt
2806	> wurden, also alles Filme, die Kindern und Jugendlichen aufgrund der
2807	> Gesetze zum Jugendschutz von vornherein nicht zugänglich sind. Kindern
2808	> und Jugendlichen wird daher die Persiflage auf diese Filme nicht
2809	> transparent.
2810
2811	Das muß man sich mal auf der Zunge zergehen lassen: Da wird ein Film,
2812	der ab 18 Jahren freigegeben ist, indiziert, weil Kinder und Jugendliche
2813	die parodistischen Anspielungen nicht verstehen könnten. Mit solchen
2814	Begründungen beraubt sich die BPjS letztlich ihrer Glaubwürdigkeit.
2815	%
2816	Großmanns Gesetz: Komplexe Probleme haben einfache, leichtverständliche,
2817	aber falsche Lösungen.
2818	%
2819	A project done in Java will cost 5 times as much, take twice as long,
2820	and be harder to maintain than a project done in a scripting language such
2821	as PHP or Perl. [http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/09/20#a1762 Java
2822	is the SUV of programming tools] Philip Greenspun
2823	%
2824	On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Till Kamppeter wrote:
2825	>
2826	> Frederic told that the options from the PPD file are intentionally mot
2827	> listed in the printing dialog, the usability team of GNOME was against
2828	> listing these options. They clutter the dialog and can be more confusing
2829	> than useful to the user.
2830
2831	I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE.
2832
2833	This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of
2834	Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will
2835	use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long
2836	since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do.
2837
2838	Please, just tell people to use KDE.
2839
2840	Linus
2841	%
2842	Move 80, Node 81
2843	theodore [22k?]: i hear 8 d can read the future
2844	setzer [?]: what about 9d
2845	theodore [22k?]: they control it
2846	%
2847	[Fuqid 1.6 FAQ]
2848	Wenn ich HTL auf 300 setze dann lade ich viel schneller runter, warum?
2849
2850	Weil du daran glaubst, das hat nur psychologische Gründe. HTL's grösser
2851	als das Nodelimit haben einfach keinen Einfluss. PUNKT!
2852	--
2853	Warum wurde Fuqid nicht in der geilen Sprache XX geschrieben?
2854
2855	Du sprichst nur eine Sprache? Bist du Amerikaner?
2856	%
2857	[Are people responsible for the company they work at?]
2858	I was at a party in New York City earlier this year, and a conversation went like this:
2859
2860	Person: What do you do?
2861	Me: I'm a computer programmer at Microsoft.
2862	Person: <viciously> I hate you.
2863
2864	If Miss Manners didn't say so explicitly, I suspect she would nevertheless
2865	agree that snarling "I hate you" to somebody on first introduction is not
2866	exactly getting off on the right foot.
2867
2868	[And this is how that Microsoft programmer reacts to bugs in Microsoft software]
2869	http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/10/17/481810.aspx
2870	%
2871	"The music and film industries are demanding that the European parliament
2872	extends the scope of proposed anti-terror laws to help them prosecute
2873	illegal downloaders."
2874
2875	Bill Thompson at the BBC has some pertinent commentary:
2876
2877	"If they cannot come up with a business model which allows them to make
2878	profits without criminalising their customers, trampling over our civil
2879	liberties or installing malware on our computers then they do not deserve
2880	to stay in business, and new ways for artists to reach the public will
2881	have to emerge."
2882
2883	http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4469886.stm
2884	%
2885	>Damit dürftest du der zweite Mensch sein, den ich kenne, der sich mit
2886	>einer so spartanischen Hardwareausstattung zufrieden gibt:) Ich selbst
2887
2888	Mein Arbeitsplatz ist eine HP 715/80 - also 80 MHz. Da drauf laeuft der vi
2889	immer noch genauso schnell wie vor zehn Jahren :)
2890
2891	Bye, Andy
2892	%
2893	[ka.uni.rz.stud, warum bestimmte zeichen in passwörtern verboten sind]
2894	>einem Passwort nicht zulässt, das kann ich nachvollziehen, aber wieso ein
2895	>Dollarzeichen, Leerzeichen, Klammeraffe, Doppelkreuz, Prozent, doppelte
2896	>Anführungszeichen, Paragraph und was es da noch so alles gibt? Und wieso nur
2897
2898	Dollarzeichen: DCE kann nicht damit umgehen.
2899	Leerzeichen: sind nur am Anfang und Ende eines PW verboten - es gibt
2900	System, die das wegstrippen :(
2901	Klammeraffe: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Kill-Zeichen (stammt
2902	halt noch aus der Zeit, als Fernschreiber als I/O-Geraete benutzt
2903	wurde, und ein Fernschreiber, der druckt, kann per Definition kein
2904	Backspace o.ae. haben - Tipp-Ex-Baender waren nicht eingebaut :)
2905	- und es gibt eben noch Systeme, die zum lokalen Login diese STTY-
2906	Settings benutzen. Seit wir die VT100-Terminals abgebaut haben,
2907	ist das fuer Studenten weniger relevant, unser BV behandelt aber
2908	alle Benutzer.
2909	Doppelkreuz: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Erase-Zeichen
2910	Prozent: Mift, das hab' ich mir nicht aufgeschrieben, geht aber auch in
2911	irgendeinem System nicht. Vielleicht sollte man es mal wieder
2912	probieren (bis es knallt)?
2913	Doppelte Anfuehrungszeichen: Wurden von Radius als Begrenzer benutzt. Ja,
2914	der Radius-Server funktionierte nur mit Klartext-Passwoertern :(
2915	Ja, funktionierte, Vergangenheitsform, er ist jetzt endlich tot :)
2916	Ja, damit kann ich die doppelten Anfuehrungszeichen freigeben :)
2917	Paragraph: ist kein ASCII-Zeichen. Das kann die lustigsten Probleme geben,
2918	insbesondere wenn verschiedene encodings benutzt werden - IMHO gibt
2919	es auch Implementierungen, die das 8. Bit wegschneiden...
2920	%
2921	[subversion is just plain broken. I just lost all my local modifications, right?]
2922
2923	cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2924	svn: Working copy '.' locked
2925	svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2926	cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn cleanup
2927	svn: 'programs/mythlcd' is not a working copy directory
2928	cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2929	svn: Working copy '.' locked
2930	svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2931	cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn help cleanup
2932	cleanup: Recursively clean up the working copy, removing locks, resuming
2933	unfinished operations, etc.
2934	usage: cleanup [PATH...]
2935
2936	Valid options:
2937	--diff3-cmd arg : use ARG as merge command
2938	--config-dir arg : read user configuration files from directory ARG
2939
2940	[Thanks for the details. Not.]
2941	%
2942	But there's an observation I can't help doing: it seems to me that the
2943	ratio of increase in the complexity of (some aspects of) the language _is_
2944	_much_ _bigger_ than that in the functionality such complexity is supposed
2945	to provide.
2946	- perl6-language - michele dondi
2947	%
2948	[From: perl6-language]
2949
2950	The fact that there's not alot of active p5p'ers on this list should
2951	alarm people more.
2952
2953	-Nate
2954
2955	[...]
2956
2957	My take on that is that it is because Perl 6 is not a new version of
2958	Perl 5. I still think "Perl" is a misleading name, and mostly hurts the
2959	image of the language that is created here.
2960
2961	Juerd
2962
2963	[...]
2964
2965	(Oh, and that perl6 will never be able to upgrade my scripts that use
2966	'format', but I'm aware of the plan to make that `obsolete' as in: the
2967	perl526 translator will dump core on those)
2968
2969	--
2970	H.Merijn Brand
2971	%
2972	Die Firma Microsoft warnte asiatische Regierungen am Donnerstag,
2973	dass diese patentrechtlich verklagt werden könnten, wenn sie das
2974	Betriebssystem Linux anstelle von Microsoft's Windows-Software einsetzen.
2975	Nachrichtenagentur Reuters (18. November 2004)
2976	%
2977	[Come on, "kidtalk"???]
2978	http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx
2979	%
2980	[Priceless :)]
2981	http://www.scottmccloud.com/comics/icst/icst-6/icst-6-full.html
2982	%
2983	[http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/15/1312216&from=rss]
2984	>> I hate it whenever Word tries to encourage me not to use passive.
2985	[...]
2986	> Okay then, translate "The window has been broken" into active voice.
2987	"Windows is broken."
2988	%
2989	[Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon on the perl6-language list:]
2990	Removing features simply because their implementation is inconvenient
2991	is not The Perl Way. If it were, Perl 6 would be Java With Sigils.
2992	%
2993	[Incidentally, the USoA is one of the two countries on earth that insist
2994	on being able to kill their children legally]
2995	http://www.post-gazette.com/breaking/20040329pornp6.asp
2996	%
2997	[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test]
2998	The Miller test is the United States Supreme Court's test for determining
2999	whether speech or expression can be labeled obscene [...]
3000	%
3001	[http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050923-5346.html]
3002	"They find the anti-pornography crowd disturbing because they believe
3003	that policing pornography violates fundamental rights. This has become
3004	the dominant view in our society: As long as what I do doesn't harm you
3005	personally, I have a right to do it. It's a silly view and a view rejected
3006	by law enforcement policies all over the country."
3007	--
3008	"What we really need is less government and more common sense. The Bush
3009	administration thinks it can win the war in iraq, the war on terror, the
3010	war on drugs, and the war on smut while establishing a lunar colony and
3011	rebuilding New Orleans, all without raising taxes. He really needs a
3012	reality check. I can't believe that with all of this crap going on, Tom
3013	DeLay has the balls to claim that the republican party has eliminated
3014	wasteful government spending."
3015	%
3016	[Attaching 72lbs to spam-reply-envelopes is legal. Do it!]
3017	http://www.vertical-visions.com/_temp/postagepaid/index2.html
3018	%
3019	[Charley Tart on Consensus Trance: <SLAP> <SLAP> Wake up!]
3020	http://www.cantrip.org/charles_tart.html
3021	%
3022	["It's such a moving story, it must be true"]
3023	http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=246277
3024	%
3025	[Pencil Carving]
3026	http://www.infofreako.com/jad/enpitsu-e.html
3027	%
3028	[Copyright]
3029	http://www.bromsun.com/practice/copyrights/flowchart.html
3030	%
3031	[Die Wirtschaft befreit die Menschen von der Arbeit]
3032	http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/stz/page/detail.php/949236
3033	%
3034	23:10 <mmead> schmorp: A federal appeals court ruled today that the president can indefinitely detain a U.S. citizen
3035	captured on U.S. soil in the absence of criminal charges, holding that such authority is vital to protect the
3036	nation from terrorist attacks.
3037	23:10 <mmead> A congressional resolution after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks "provided the President all powers
3038	necessary and appropriate to protect American citizens from terrorist attacks by those who attacked the United
3039	States on Sept. 11,'' the decision said.
3040	23:10 <mmead> The decision by a three-judge panel was written by Judge J. Michael Luttig, who sources have said is under
3041	consideration by President Bush for nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court.
3042	%
3043	[Looks extreme]
3044	http://www.counterpunch.org/
3045	%
3046	[Some glimpse of what happened in New Orleans]
3047	"As we approached the bridge, armed Gretna sheriffs formed a line across the
3048	foot of the bridge. Before we were close enough to speak, they began firing
3049	their weapons over our heads."
3050	http://www.livejournal.com/users/malbec/1052572.html
3051	%
3052	[Global Average Temperature vs. Number of Pirates]
3053	http://www.sheise.de/files/PirateGraph.jpg
3054	%
3055	[http://www.fefe.de/nowindows/]
3056	Many people using Windows don't care about their freedom. They do care
3057	about quality software and for that reason try to replace all the user
3058	space software from Microsoft with better free alternatives. This is the
3059	sole reason for the existance of cygwin.
3060	%
3061	[http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/trusted_computing/20031001_tc.php]
3062	%
3063	The TCG has resisted defining "owner" for purposes of their spec, despite
3064	several requests for clarification.
3065
3066	Think of it this way: most computer-related "stuff" now has a "licensed,
3067	not sold" tag attached. Ask yourself again, then, who has ultimate control
3068	unter TCG definitions.
3069	%
3070	But rememer they aren't doing anything wrong and they aren't trying to
3071	force anything on you. It is all opt-in and you always get to set the
3072	policy on your computer. It's just that nothing works any more unless you
3073	do opt-in and you do set your policy exactly they way they tell you to.
3074	%
3075	It's not coercion. It's for security. It helps the economy. It thwarts
3076	terrorists. TPM gives flags to orphans if that's what it needs to do to
3077	get people on board.
3078	%
3079	To have a secure computer, you must download the latest
3080	patches. Therefore, you must upgrade to SP4, and therefore, you must
3081	accept the EULA that requires you to agree with Microsoft's proprietary
3082	DRM.
3083
3084	The end is near. Security patches will soon require your body to be
3085	injected with RFID. Surely, we are all doomed.
3086	%
3087	[http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/09/01/1419222.shtml?tid=172&tid=109]
3088	switch ($decade) {
3089	case "the 50's":
3090	s/the Boogyman/Communist agitators/g;
3091	break;
3092	case "the 60's":
3093	s/the Boogyman/acid-eating hippies/g;
3094	break;
3095	case "the 70's":
3096	s/the Boogyman/disco/g;
3097	break;
3098	case "the 80's":
3099	s/the Boogyman/mutual assured destruction (and Grenada!)/g;
3100	break;
3101	case "the 90's":
3102	s/the Boogyman/evil hackers and George Michael/g;
3103	break;
3104	case "the 00's":
3105	s/the Boogyman/terrorists/g;
3106	break;
3107	}
3108	%
3109	http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2005/08/curiosities-from-japans-porno-shops.html
3110
3111	"How fucking creepy is that? As you can see from the flyer included
3112	in the capsule (note the kiddie crayon font), the other toys in the
3113	assortment include little girls spreading their legs, little girls sucking
3114	suggestively on popsicles, and little girls dry-humping their teddy bears"
3115
3116	"Interestingly enough, none of the cans were very long - maybe six inches
3117	at the most. I was trying to avoid the whole Asian-men-have-small-penises
3118	thing, but they kind of handed it to me on a silver platter."
3119
3120	""Maybe I should just try it. Just see what it feels like..." I mean,
3121	why not, right? You know. Just for kicks, right? So you know what? I
3122	fucked it. Yeah. I fucked a plastic beer can. I fucked the shit out of
3123	that can. And you know what? It felt alright. It did the trick. That
3124	is, until it was all over. Until the moment after, when I was hit by a
3125	sobering freight train of humility, looking down at my dick stuck inside a
3126	latex vagina housed in a plastic beer can. Moments like that you start to
3127	question everything - "How the hell did it come to this? Who am I? What am
3128	I doing with my life?" I probably sat there for an hour, silently with my
3129	plastic lover, pondering my existence."
3130	%
3131	"The scholars of Islam, such as Malik, Ash-Shafi`i, Ahmad and Ishaaq said
3132	that (the person guilty of this crime) should be stoned, whether he is
3133	married or unmarried."
3134
3135	http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547102
3136	http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/02/Article01-0.shtml
3137	http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/07/Article02.shtml
3138	http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545556
3139	http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543324
3140	%
3141	http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503546996
3142
3143	[I like this comparison between of and watching television:]
3144	Your brother is not at all different from those who have been conditioned
3145	to fornicate, or commit theft or murder, or who have become addicted to
3146	watching pornography or even television for that matter. All of these
3147	are destructive habits that one learns through continuous exposure or
3148	conditioning.
3149
3150	[And this is religion at its best:]
3151	Let him continuously read, reflect and meditate on the verses of the
3152	Qur'an that deal with the punishment meted to the nation who practiced
3153	this abomination; let him also read the verses depicting hell fire.
3154	%
3155	[Racism]
3156	http://www.flickr.com/photos/firewall/38725768/
3157	%
3158	[A link, just a link]
3159	http://www.oilcrisis.com/
3160	%
3161	As you may have noticed, the HOWTO is getting stale, you can't subscribe to
3162	the mailinglist and a lot of messages sent to it aren't getting through.
3163
3164	I apologise for this.
3165
3166	If all goes well I'll get my driver's license this Tuesday, which will allow
3167	me to visit the server, which I can't easily reach right now.
3168	%
3169	PSYC @> el says: von java bekommt man krebs
3170	induktiv says: java is ein riesiger marketing misthaufen voll mit code von uebereifrigen fh-programmierern
3171	el says: ich kenn da wen
3172	el says: bei dem wars so
3173	[...]
3174	PSYC @> el says: und.. naja, der hat also ganz viel java programmiert
3175	el says: und bekam augenkrebs
3176	el says: gehirntumor auch
3177	el says: ich weiss nicht, was vorher da war
3178	%
3179	wget http://el.l.tobij.de/ratz.jpg && xsetbg ratz.jpg
3180	%
3181	[in a reply to a school work assignment about proving why env vars make
3182	no sense in the kernel]
3183	From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
3184
3185	[...]
3186
3187	Mathematical proofs are accomplished within a framework of mathematical
3188	models.
3189
3190	In the postmodern time period and we gave up belief that the mathematical
3191	models are an accurate representation of reality. We only expect that
3192	they are sufficiently accurate for the purposes at hand.
3193	%
3194	[such nice quotes from http://theinquirer.net/?article=24638]
3195	There will be EF devices, EF branded content and probably EF branded
3196	contraceptives to use while watching EF branded porn.
3197	--
3198	Any DRM on a machine is simply a sign of failure.
3199	--
3200	This crushing DRM that is being foisted upon you is the surest sign that
3201	you don't want this product, and you will be paying too much for it. Don't
3202	like that? Bought legislators are hard at work making sure you will go to
3203	jail if you try to exercise your rights on the issue.
3204	%
3205	An absolutely fascinating interview with Robert Pape, a University of
3206	Chicago professor who has studied every suicide terrorist attack since
3207	1980. "The central fact is that overwhelmingly suicide-terrorist
3208	attacks are not driven by religion as much as they are by a clear
3209	strategic objective: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military
3210	forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland."
3211	<http://www.amconmag.com/2005_07_18/article.html>
3212	[From: CRYPTO-GRAM 2005-08-15]
3213	%
3214	[If you are a US citizen, you might want to fight for the right to vote,
3215	which you currently do not posess]
3216	http://reclaimdemocracy.org/political_reform/right_to_vote.html
3217	%
3218	Kind: "Daad! Die alten Griechen mußten 44 Arten der Selbstverteidigung lernen, ohne Waffen!"
3219	Vater: "Dafür haben wir eine zweistufige elektrische Heckenschere."
3220	[Nach: Time Bandits]
3221	%
3222	http://www.cpmission.com/main/painpolitics/mdjackson.html
3223	%
3224	Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off
3225	a horse.." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse.."
3226	%
3227	Tcl is LISP on drugs. Using strings instead of S-expressions for closures
3228	is Evil with one of those gigantic E's you can find at the beginning of
3229	paragraphs.
3230	%
3231	[the average IQ seems to be declining]
3232	http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000953.html
3233	http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/
3234	%
3235	[http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/07/31/0626257.shtml?tid=153&tid=98&tid=95&tid=103&tid=219]
3236	> If you know anything, most catholics register as democrats
3237
3238	Most catholics aren't American.
3239	%
3240	[Some things possibly cannot exist...]
3241
3242	[http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/depleted-uranium.html]
3243	In NEWS1920, we demonstrated how America's widespread usage of Depleted
3244	Uranium munitions is fulfilling the prophetic End of the Age prophecy
3245	against Babylon (Iraq). Now, we examine how our D.U. is quite possibly
3246	fulfilling another major prophecy: Revelation 6:3-4
3247
3248	[http://cuttingedge.org/detail.cfm?ID=939]
3249	How Mormon Temples Are Built To Be Demon Magnets
3250	%
3251	[http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/23/egypt.explosions/index.html]
3252	Asked whether he thought the blasts might be related to Islam, he
3253	replied, "What Islam? This terrorism has nothing to do with any religion,
3254	because all religions do not allow aggression and do not allow killing
3255	civilians in innocence. Those don't belong to Muslims. They are a gang of
3256	criminals."
3257	%
3258	The Black Hole in the Galactic Center
3259	[http://www.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de/staff/hfalcke/bh/sld1.html]
3260	%
3261	To me anything above 30 fps is good and 45-50 is amazing... 75 is more
3262	than I've seen lol. Then again I come from a mac
3263	%
3264	[There are things the US congress can do that were far beyond my imagination]
3265	http://reason.com/rauch/99_08_07.shtml
3266	%
3267	The MSI MS-9130 (K8T Master2-FAR) is an excellent board. The only problem
3268	I had was with my video card shorting out and frying both the board and
3269	card (They went up in flames).
3270	%
3271	05:46 <mmead> AP and UPI reported that the French government announced yesterday that
3272	it has raised its terror alert level from "run" to "hide." The only two
3273	higher levels in France are "surrender" and "collaborate." The action
3274	was precipitated by the recent fire which destroyed one of France's
3275	white flag factories, disabling their military.
3276	05:47 <mmead> it's obviously been recirculated recently:
3277	http://www.edthibodeau.com/nonplussed/2004/10/french_terror_a.html
3278	%
3279	[The following quote from a NASA press release shows impressively how much
3280	we know. And more importantly, how to build up scientific knowledge part
3281	by part. "Knowledge" always has a margin-of-error inherently attached to it.]
3282
3283	"The cloud indicated the comet is covered in the powdery stuff."
3284
3285	[http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/text/di_pr_20050708.txt]
3286	%
3287	[http://www.skippy.net/blog/2005/06/09/security-through-stupidity/]
3288	Silly questions abound, all to cover people's butts. When I moved to
3289	the US in 1992 (from Canada), one of the questions on my green card
3290	application was "Do you, or any member of your immediate family, plan to
3291	violently overthrow the government of the United States or assasinate any
3292	elected official?" Not only did they have checkboxes for "yes" and "no",
3293	but they had a blank space labelled, "If you checked 'yes', please provide
3294	a detailed explanation in the space below." I never figured out what kind
3295	of explanation would make them give you a green card anyway.
3296	--
3297	Hasbro should ask the same. Teddy Ruxpin chips were found on a number
3298	of landmines during the first gulf war... First, we just thought these
3299	people REALLY hate Teddy Ruxpin, maybe we're not so different after all...
3300	but on further investigation, Ruxpin had easily-programmable EEPROMs, so
3301	the Ruxpin chip was actually being repurposed as a controller for the
3302	explosives. They were jackin' overseas deliveries to get the Ruxpins.
3303	%
3304	http://graphics.stanford.edu/~danielrh/vote/vote.html
3305	The Obfuscated V contest
3306	%
3307	Airplane security is getting surreal: "...FAA regulation that requires
3308	soldiers -- all of whom were armed with an arsenal of assault rifles,
3309	shotguns and pistols -- to surrender pocket knives, nose hair scissors and
3310	cigarette lighters."
3311	http://tinyurl.com/7z8my
3312	%
3313	<http://babygimp.sourceforge.net/>
3314	Does it run under Windows ?
3315	- Who cares?
3316	%
3317	[Can hot water freeze faster than cold water?]
3318	http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html
3319	%
3320	http://www.physik3.gwdg.de/~rgeisle/nld/sbsl-howto.html
3321	Single Bubble Sonoluminescence HOWTO
3322	[...]
3323	Don't bother me with "my bottle exploded, what was wrong?"-stuff; While the bottle is heated it mustn't be closed!
3324	[...]
3325	Darken your room completely. Adapt your eyes, which may take 15 minutes up
3326	to half an hour. Look at the flask or at least where you think your flask
3327	is (remember: the room is completely darkened).
3328	%
3329	[de.alt.ufo]
3330	> Ja, stimmt - ich hatte mich früher viel mit Leuten beschäftigt, die
3331	> wahrscheinlich entführt wurden, oder bei denen es den Anschein hatte. Im
3332	> Moment beschäftige ich mich mit der Konstruktion eines kleinen UFO-
3333	> Detektors, der die UFO- Ereignisse auch zählt.-
3334	> www.ufo-finder.de
3335	> Aber Feld-Forscher bin ich deshalb noch nicht. Das geht gesundheitlich nicht
3336	> mehr!
3337	> richy.
3338
3339	Und es gibt wirklich Deppen, die sich von dir abzocken lassen??
3340	%
3341	[de.alt.ufo]
3342	> Wie kann ich online etwas belegen, das sich in der Vergangenheit
3343	> zugetragen hat?
3344
3345	Das solltest Du Dich selbst mal fragen. Wenn Du es nicht belegen kannst,
3346	warum behauptest Du es dann?
3347	[später]
3348	> Ach, wenn es interessant wird, umfängt Dich Faulheit?
3349
3350	Bei dir ist das angemessen, du hast deinen Ruf weg.
3351	Du plapperst immer nur von Belegen, verlangst letzten Endes
3352	naturwissenschaftliche/physikalische Beweise (genaugenommen:
3353	ein Alien-craft zum Vorfuehren), darunter akzeptierst du nichts,
3354	aber das stellt sich erst nach ellenlangen threads heraus.
3355
3356	Aber das ist bekannt, und eigentlich belanglos.
3357
3358	Wer sich auf Debatten mit dir einlaesst und Argumente erwartet
3359	von jemand, der die Wissenschaft zur Ersatzreligion verquast,
3360	ist eigentlich selbst schuld.
3361	%
3362	[de.alt.ufo, über einen www.rtl.de-news-Artikel]
3363	Wie die Skepsos so schoen sagen: der Verfasser von dem Quark war so offen,
3364	dem ist das Gehirn rausgefallen.
3365	%
3366	[res_nsend.c]
3367	/* give the hook another try */
3368	if (++loops < 42) /doug adams/
3369	break;
3370	%
3371	[sr_port/mdq.h]
3372	/* Insert a doubly-linked list of elements from "n->q.fl" to "n->q.bl"
3373	in between "o" and "o->q.fl" */
3374	#define dqadd(o,n,q) ((o)->q.fl->q.bl=(n)->q.bl,(n)->q.bl->q.fl=(o)->q.fl,(o)->q.fl=(n)->q.fl,(n)->q.fl->q.bl=(o))
3375	%
3376	Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
3377	%
3378	* Andreas Waechter <mail@andreas-waechter.de> [06-25-05 00:58]:
3379	> No, Thunderbird should not "reply" to the list with the
3380	> current settings of the list.
3381	>
3382	> There is no "Reply-To" header, thus a "Reply" has to go to
3383	> the address in the "From" header - which is the address of
3384	> the original sender, not the list.
3385	>
3386	> The List address is in the "To" field. Thus only a "Reply
3387	> All" will go to the list as CC (and to the original sender
3388	> as TO).
3389	>
3390	> Don't blame my mail client for the set-up of the list.
3391
3392	Your mail client is not being blamed. It is your
3393	responsibility. No one disputes your choice of mail client, but it
3394	is your responsibility to see that your posts are properly
3395	addressed to the list, not the list's software or the people you are
3396	being discourteous to.
3397
3398	The fault is all yours. It is/was your choice.
3399	--
3400	Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535
3401	%
3402	[http://www.heise.de/ct/00/20/104/]
3403	"Sie können mit falschen Tatsachen Leute überzeugen, das ist nun mal so."
3404	%
3405	An appeals court in Minnesota has ruled that the presence of encryption
3406	software [PGP] on a computer may be viewed as evidence of criminal intent.
3407	http://www.granick.com/archive/2005_05_01_theshout_archive.html#1117581
3408	http://news.com.com/Minnesota+court+takes+dim+view+of+encryption/2100-1030_3-5718978.html
3409	http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/archive/ctappub/0505/opa040381-0503.htm
3410	%
3411	[http://www.komotv.com/stories/37150.htm]
3412	"They said 'no' and they said it's a national security issue. And I said
3413	what about my constitutional rights? And they said 'not at this point ...
3414	you don't have any'."
3415
3416	[I also am very fond of this quote:]
3417	"My concern is that if that's the way they're treating American citizens I
3418	would hate to think how they're treating other people. It's crazy."
3419	[Don't they have _any_ ethics?? What about equality? Ah well, I forgot...]
3420	%
3421	[http://wiki.ffii.org/CampIcecream050601En]
3422	Yes its true! If you go down to Place du Luxembourg from now until
3423	3pm, you can collect your free icecream and support the Computer
3424	Implemented Inventions Common Position!
3425	%
3426	[http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation/algorithm/upconversion/index.htm]
3427	The change from Blitz to standard arrays had little effect on the
3428	execution time so I stuck with the standard type. The standard arrays
3429	should be more acceptable to developers who want to modify the code.
3430	Insisting that the developer use a certain array container for no good
3431	reason will not win many fans.
3432
3433	[http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation.html has other nice
3434	documents in the algorithm section]
3435	%
3436	["Blue in the Face"]
3437	Ich kriege in New York keine Angst, nein... aber in Schweden...da isses
3438	irgendwie so leer und da sind alle betrunken... und alles funktioniert...
3439	und, naja, wnen du an einer roten Ampel den motor nicht abstellst, reden
3440	die leute mit dir.... die zeigen da im fernsehen ohrenoperationen...
3441
3442	Solche dinge machen mir Angst... nicht New York.
3443	%
3444	And before I forget it, readers fascinated by the idea of Central
3445	Europeans using A6 as a toilet paper size might also be interested to hear
3446	that the U.S. have for the same application field a standard square format
3447	of 4.5×4.5 in = 114×114 mm, which is for instance documented in New Jersey
3448	Specification No. 7572-01 (May 1997), section 2.3.
3449	[http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html]
3450	%
3451	[Better know what they actually do...]
3452	[Technische Richtlinie / Telekommunikationsüberwachung]
3453	http://www.regtp.de/imperia/md/content/tech_reg_t/ueberwachu/TR_TKUE_Ausgabe_4.1_29-11-2004.pdf
3454	[RFC3924 Cisco Architecture for Lawful Intercept in IP Networks]
3455	ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3924.txt
3456	%
3457	[rfc4096]
3458	The FTC called a summit of leading thinkers, and the regulation was
3459	amended to read "but don't use languages that go from right to left
3460	or up and down instead of plain old left to right." Needless to say,
3461	the reaction from the Freedonian League for the Defense of Linguistic
3462	Diversity killed that proposed regulation really quickly.
3463	%
3464	[just a really nice md5sum]
3465	99421268df476006401f11f96b655248
3466	%
3467	[a comment in some g729 sample implementation]
3468	* For G.729(,A,B) royalty payments, see http://www.sipro.com
3469	* WARNING: please make sure you are sitting down before looking
3470	* at their price list.
3471	%
3472	[http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=139347&cid=11665921]
3473	You'd think I was overgeneralizing, but I'm not. Absolutely every single
3474	time I see HN in use, I quickly end up learning that the programmer who
3475	wrote the code was an idiot. On at least two separate occasions, I've
3476	had to correct C code with HN that did not allocate space for the null
3477	terminator on any strings anywhere in the code. That's pretty much the
3478	level of programming talent you can expect when you see HN in use.
3479	%
3480	21:22 <mmead> tiger's SMB support is fucking broken
3481	21:26 <oesi> mmead: when you grow up, you will substitute "'s SMB support" by "" :)
3482	%
3483	03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> ich dachte immer alle beinhaltet mehr als 1
3484	03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> aba naja
3485	03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <oesi> nein, viele beinhaltet mehr als 1
3486	03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <bani_> stimmt auch wieder
3487	%
3488	[ein so gut geschriebenes dokument erwartet man eigentlich nicht mal vom BSI]
3489	http://www.bsi.bund.de/literat/studien/antispam/antispam.pdf
3490	%
3491	[some SPAM]
3492	Freie Geschlechtabbildungen und -filme. Und Phasennetznocken
3493	%
3494	cowsay -f head-in oink \| cowthink -n -f sodomized
3495	%
3496	[star wars episode guide]
3497	1 =Epichode 1: The Phantom Grimace
3498	2 =Epichode 2: Attack of the Groans
3499	3 =Epichode 3: Revenge of the Shit
3500	4 = Episode 4: A New Hope
3501	5 = Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back(By far the best Star Wars film. One of the finest movies ever made.)
3502	6 = Episode 6: Return of the Jedi(would have been a thousand times cooler if the ewoks had been Wookies).
3503	[http://www.beggingtodiffer.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=pp;action=display;num=1113843411]
3504	%
3505	[God knows his enemies]
3506	http://sheise.de/files/GODvsBUSH.gif
3507	[Uh-oh, "se germans are next"]
3508	http://sheise.de/files/cnn_iraq.jpg [a fake, but nevertheless]
3509	%
3510	http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054743/
3511	[Why is it that every good Hollywood movie is at least 30+ years old?]
3512	%
3513	[http://www.bildblog.de/]
3514	Die "Bild"-Zeitung schreibt Blödsinn, und alle schreiben's ab. Die
3515	rührende Geschichte von den "Unfallforschern", die angeblich "ermittelt"
3516	hätten, was doch nur eine schlichte Umrechnung von Stundenkilometern in
3517	Meter pro Sekunde ist, zieht Kreise.
3518
3519	Nachrichtenagentur ddp, 3. Mai, 03:16 Uhr:
3520
3521	Laut "Bild" ermittelten Unfallforscher, dass ein Auto bei einer
3522	Geschwindigkeit von 50 Kilometern pro Stunde etwa 14 Meter pro Sekunde
3523	ungebremst weiterfährt, während der Fahrer nach einer fallengelassenen
3524	Zigarette sucht.
3525
3526	Nachrichtenagentur AFP, 3. Mai, 04:25 Uhr:
3527
3528	[usw.]
3529
3530	Bei "Stern Online" ist aus den "Unfallforschern" schon eine ganze "Studie"
3531	geworden, die plötzlich zu Ergebnissen kommt, die nur scheinbar mit den
3532	bekannten "Ermittlungen" identisch sind:
3533
3534	Nach Auffassung des SPD-Verkehrsexperten Peter Danckert kann eine
3535	brennende Zigarette den Fahrer jedoch ebenso wie ein klingelndes
3536	Telefon ablenken. Er verwies auf eine Studie, nach der ein 50
3537	Stundenkilometer schnelles Auto mindestens 14 Meter weiterrolle, wenn
3538	der Fahrer nach einer Zigarette sucht.
3539	%
3540	[schlimmer als de.alt.ufo, schlimmer als jede Verarschung sein könnte...]
3541	http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2005/01/22/sonne__boese/sonne__boese.html
3542	http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2004/12/28/seebeben/zerreisst__unsere__erde.html
3543	%
3544	[http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=147629&cid=12370229]
3545	Which fanboy are you?
3546
3547	1. Windows
3548
3549	You wear wraparound sunglasses, even indoors. You wish your mother
3550	would let you ride a motorbike. You tell your friends you're pulling
3551	in $50,000 a year and $2,000 a month "playing the stock market" but
3552	in reality you're only bringing in half that and your dividends from
3553	MSFT havn't been good in years. Your non computing friends all turn
3554	to you for help; you only charge $30 an hour. Your collegues talk
3555	about you behind your back. Your workplace nickname is likely to be
3556	"The Asshole". Unlike the Linux fanboys, you actually try to pick up
3557	dates in bars but women laugh at you.
3558
3559	2. Apple
3560
3561	You think you're so cool you hurt. You have mirrors on every wall
3562	in your "loft apartment", which is really a grimy little apartment
3563	next to a guy who plays Guns 'n Roses at 3am. All of your furniture
3564	is from Ikea. You sometimes think that changing your name to "Steve"
3565	would be "pretty cool". When you go to bars you only drink Miller
3566	Lite. No body ever asks you for help with their computers because
3567	they know you don't know anything but OS X, even if you do tell them
3568	you "run Unix" now. Your friends openly laugh at you.
3569
3570	3. Linspire
3571
3572	You regularly give $10 bills to homeless guys because you have
3573	too much money. Computers baffle you, but you enjoy looking at
3574	pictures of naked women. You don't know what Linux is, but you
3575	continually bugged the IT guy at work about your computer so he
3576	installed Linspire on your machine.
3577
3578	4. Umbongo
3579
3580	You shop at GAP. You probably used to use a Mac. When you saw the
3581	multiracial image used as a desktop picture and heard that this
3582	operating system came from the same country as Nelson Mandela, you
3583	knew it was for you. You meet with your friends in fair-trade coffee
3584	houses and talk about the eventual overthrow of evil corporations
3585	such as Microsoft and Starbucks. Like the Linspire user, you have
3586	very little real knowlege when it comes to computers but you would
3587	never use your computer to look at pictures of women degrading
3588	themselves.
3589
3590	5. Gentoy
3591
3592	You've been "into computers" for ohh, one or two years now and fancy
3593	yourself as "a bit of a hacker". Wouldn't know C from C++, or even
3594	Perl for that matter. Older Gentoy users may be building their homes
3595	from matchsticks. You've explained to all your friends that your
3596	matchstick house will have an "optimised floorplan". They've tried
3597	to tell you that your house violates every known building code and
3598	law in your area, but you've ignored them so far because you can't
3599	read those complicated regulatory documents.
3600
3601	6. Linux From Scratch
3602
3603	Much like the Gentoy user but you'd also be into sadomasochistic
3604	sex if you could get it. You're not just building a house from
3605	matchsticks, you're planing to grow the trees to make the
3606	matchsticks. You've cleared some land but don't know what to do next
3607	because you havn't read the books you've got, so you've posted to
3608	alt.arborists.newbie asking for help. It's been three days so far
3609	and no one has replied. You remain hopeful.
3610	%
3611	[/usr/bin/cowsay]
3612	if (($^O eq "MSWin32") or ($^O eq "Windows_NT")) { ## Many perls, eek!
3613	%
3614	[A few days after the 6.0.9 release announcement]
3615
3616	In the spirit of release early, release often.... Err no, actually more
3617	in the spirit of, let's not try to lose data during file resolution...
3618
3619	Coda 6.0.10 is out
3620	%
3621	<opine@orifice2.com> wrote:
3622
3623	> > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:55:28 -0800, CrabRangoon wrote
3624	>
3625	> > Meine Großmutter hat einen kleinen Hinterhof und sie benutzt selten die
3626	> > Dusche. Bei vielen Gelegenheiten habe ich mehr als 4
3627	> > Lebensmittelgeschäftspeicher-Versorgungsmaterialien Sellerie an einem
3628	> > einzelnen Tag verbraucht. Würde es irgendein Benzin unter meiner Couch
3629	> > geben, wenn ich meine Hose bügelte?
3630	>
3631	> What does your granny's tiny ass have to do with this group? Other than the
3632	> smell attracting flies of course...
3633	>
3634	I figured a little non-native tongued nonsense would help keep this
3635	request near the top of the group. thanks for playing along.
3636	cheers and Haben Sie eine glückliche Karotte
3637	%
3638	00:24 <elmex> ich bin ja nur ein dummer niedersachse, der kaum was in der schule hatte
3639	%
3640	War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. -Ambrose Bierce
3641	%
3642	98% of the time I am right. Why worry about the other 3%.
3643	%
3644	[Bertram van Munster, Jerry Bruckheimers partner, interviewed in the BBC
3645	show "Correspondent"]
3646
3647	[...] I do reality television, and I've done this for many many many
3648	years, long before even anybody knew what reality was.
3649
3650	[so know we know who creates reality now]
3651	%
3652	[from wordnet]
3653	cock sucking, blowjob
3654	=> fellatio, fellation
3655	=> oral sex, head
3656	=> perversion, sexual perversion
3657	=> sexual activity, sexual practice, sex, sex activity
3658	=> bodily process, body process, bodily function, activity
3659	=> organic process, biological process
3660	=> process
3661	=> phenomenon
3662	%
3663	10:41 <oesi> [0]--(10:40:39)-(root@km)-(~/xxml)-> file tmon.out
3664	10:41 <oesi> tmon.out: ASCII Java program text
3665	%
3666	[SSK@J3GtFnEi8b~ko6mGvvXdrQoZ3D4PAgM,hhWspr43hLbvnrlkwxtDLg/ABC_NoJail/2//]
3667	[slightly edited]
3668	Largest prison population in the world is in the United States of America
3669	(in 2000: 2,071,686 persons, 22% of world prison population), it has more
3670	than double the prison population of Russia or China. What that means is
3671	that in USA 1 out of 143 residents are incarcerated.
3672
3673	About 88% of USA prison population is male, but female population is
3674	sharply on the rise, and might soon reach that of males, due mostly to new
3675	laws on terrorism and drugs.
3676
3677	Out of all the black males between 20 and 39, 12% are in custody (anybody
3678	told them about emancipation proclamation?).
3679	%
3680	"Begehe nur nicht den Fehler, Meinung durch Sachverstand zu substituieren."
3681	(PLemken, <bu6o7e$e6v0p$2@ID-31.news.uni-berlin.de>)
3682	%
3683	Mail::Box - 700MB of RSS to open a 30MB mail folder, one half of the
3684	advertised features doesn't work, while the other half is just buggy.
3685	%
3686	A ship is safe in harbor, but that is not what ships are built for.
3687	I learned that some cops lie. This was a brutal and profoundly disturbing
3688	realization: Those in control are not necessarily trustworthy.
3689	- Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
3690	%
3691	"parrot - from the people who brought you ithreads"
3692	- oesi
3693	%
3694	[US, Metric]
3695	http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/usmetric.html
3696	%
3697	[http://use.perl.org/~scrottie/journal]
3698	[I agree with that very much, most of his blog is really interesting]
3699	Sunday February 20, 2005 07:18 AM
3700	Minions Wanted [ 0 Comments \| #23269 ]
3701
3702	It's been about 10 years since I've had minions. They've all grown up,
3703	started painfully profitable companies, and now hob-knob whose-who of
3704	important and influential figures of their field. I'm growing old and
3705	increasinly mal-adapted to normal life. It's no longer becoming for me
3706	to leave my lair nor speak on the phone. I've reflected on making this
3707	post, and I've reflected at great length. Minions aren't what they used
3708	to be. Minions now days are soft and weak willed. In the old days, it was
3709	that minions would realize they can wield power if they're willing to
3710	spend a time subserviant to someone capable of teaching. Now days, kids
3711	have this notion that money only comes from the parents, power comes from
3712	your social (gag) circles, and glory comes from the things you own. They
3713	seek answers to Perl questions only for immediate gradification, not to
3714	truly master an insidious tactic and become a potent force. Kids now
3715	days, not nearly robust enough to be considered minion material. They,for
3716	their entire life, questioninglessly slide into being slaves of much
3717	more powerful overlords. They accept as payment for their servatude a
3718	few measily tens of thousands of dollars, and then only paid in payments
3719	yearly, calling that close enough to world domination, and inexchange
3720	for that paultry fee, deliver one after another innocent to the hands of
3721	Bill Gates, telling the clients they betray that Microsoft Windows is a
3722	servicable operating system and a supportable platform. While it is truly
3723	becoming to serve on the side of Microsoft, it is also well known the
3724	ranks are thin at the top but wide at the bottom, and few ever move past
3725	petty explotation of businesses and moronic home users.
3726
3727	This is not the stock I seek. These so short-sightedly driven by greed,
3728	rather than lusting for true power, amount to little more than orcs - a
3729	fodder of little use except as "consumers" in this modern age. It is far
3730	more becoming to hope to some day aspire to be an overlord of some small
3731	repute yourself and initially forego payment.
3732
3733	Minions in my service will be expected to endure maindane business-related
3734	tasks, such as answering the phone, but will always be allowed the
3735	basic dignity of being able to tell clients to "fuck off" when
3736	appropriate. Retaining dignity does not relieve the necessities of
3737	subordination, however. My minions may seek clarification but will never
3738	question me. For the term of their indenture, they will accept my teaching
3739	as truth itself. They will not seek short-cuts where I say there are none,
3740	and if I later reveal short-cuts, they will know it was because they were
3741	not yet ready before. While my young troglodytes will doubtless enterain
3742	perversion and drug abuse in their free time, they will go for the want of
3743	the very necessities of life should urgant cause arise.
3744
3745	In exchange, they will be tutored on the basic elements of evil and Perl
3746	programming and will share in the spoils of an insideous plot I've hatched
3747	some time ago to dupe large numbers of people out of money by playing on
3748	their greed and fear. Of course, in the interest of avoiding indictment
3749	myself, the details of the plot can never be revealed, but a clever
3750	student will quickly ascertain the nature of the ploy. After thier period
3751	of endenture, minions will have developed an eye for exploitation and
3752	trickery, but most importantly will have developed a deeper understanding
3753	of how things work - both in Perl and in the real world. They will see
3754	everything about them as quite potentially theirs - no program must go
3755	unwritten, and persuent to Free Trade Agreements, they will be as a
3756	sovereign nation.
3757
3758	While the offer is valid, this is a draft for a post on
3759	jobs.perl.org. Feedback is welcome - unless you're stupid, then stay the
3760	hell off my blog. Time and time again I forget both the power of TV to
3761	sap intelligence and the very prevelence of the thing. So let this be a
3762	test: if you watch more than half an hour a day of any programming besides
3763	CSPAN, don't post here.
3764
3765	-scott
3766	%
3767	But Mike Loughlin, who studied the boiling of lobsters when he was a
3768	University of Maine graduate student, said lobsters simply lack the brain
3769	capacity to feel pain.
3770
3771	"It's a semantic thing: No brain, no pain," said Loughlin, who now works
3772	as a biologist at the Maine Atlantic Salmon Commission.
3773	%
3774	Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp contextual F1 help & Crimson Editor in Windows
3775	From: Sven Neumann
3776
3777	Hi,
3778
3779	Rubén de Diego Martínez writes:
3780	> I also think that it's a bug. How may I report-it?
3781
3782	Go to http://support.microsoft.com/support/feedback/ and tell them
3783	that
3784
3785	ShellExecute (HWND_DESKTOP, "open", uri, NULL, NULL, SW_SHOWNORMAL);
3786
3787	does not do what you would expect it to do.
3788	%
3789	http://www.syslog.com/~jwilson/pics-i-like/kurios119.jpg
3790	the original comment says:
3791	This is probably part of an elaborate IQ test.
3792	Waiting at the gate means you fail.
3793	%
3794	{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} ich mir eine kolaflasche reingeschioebn
3795	{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und dann ist meine klitoris erissen
3796	{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und ich musste ins krankenhaus
3797	{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} oh sorry, falsches fenster
3798	{Flat eric:Net-Knuddels} aja
3799	{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} hi :)
3800	%
3801	[Java, like Delphi, requires manual destruction. Obvious, but still
3802	interesting read]
3803	http://www.octopull.demon.co.uk/java/ImmortalityAtaPrice.html
3804	%
3805	[Obscure Algorithms, just for my reference]
3806	http://aggregate.org/MAGIC/
3807	http://www.hackersdelight.org/HDcode.htm
3808	%
3809	In Los Angeles, the "HOLLYWOOD" sign is protected by a fence and a locked
3810	gate. Because several different agencies need access to the sign for
3811	various purposes, the chain locking the gate is formed by several locks
3812	linked together. Each of the agencies has the key to its own lock, and not
3813	the key to any of the others. Of course, anyone who can open one of the
3814	locks can open the gate.
3815
3816	This is a nice example of a multiple-user access-control system. It's
3817	simple, and it works. You can also make it as complicated as you want,
3818	with different locks in parallel and in series.
3819	%
3820	http://www.crypto.com/papers/safelocks.pdf
3821	Safecracking for the computer scientist
3822	%
3823	Fact: Something that you observe to be true.
3824
3825	Fact #1: when you drop a hammer, it falls to the ground
3826
3827	Fact #2: a genetic sequence can change sufficiently to form a new
3828	species. Speciation has been observed more than once in the laboratory
3829	and in the wild, so this is a fact. Since we call this process
3830	'evolution', that means evolution is a fact. Keep reading for more
3831	explanation of this.
3832
3833	Theory: An explanation of an observation
3834
3835	Theory #1: The theory of gravity is understood as a curvature in space,
3836	which explains why the hammer falls.
3837
3838	Theory #2: The Theory of Evolution through Natural Selection explains
3839	how a population's genome can change over time.
3840
3841	Law: Not really related to any of the other definitions. It's just a
3842	mathematical relationship between two values.
3843
3844	Law #1: If you double the distance from a source of light, the
3845	brightness falls off proportionally to the square of the distance.
3846
3847	Law #2: (expressed as a formula) F=ma. Force equals mass times
3848	acceleration.
3849
3850	Please note that Evolution is a fact, and the theory is called the Theory
3851	of Evolution through Natural Selection. There are other theories of
3852	evolution, which have been disproved. A famous one is the theory of
3853	evolution through acquired characteristics, also known as Lamarkian
3854	evolution. It posited that species evolve by acquiring and retaining
3855	useful characteristics through use. Therefore, a giraffe would have
3856	longer necks if the previous generations stretched their necks to reach
3857	high leaves. This was the main theory that Darwin and others showed to be
3858	false.
3859
3860	[by Profane MuthaFucka (574406)]
3861	%
3862	[Aus: Psychologie heute, 10/2003, über einen Artikel von Rentfrow/Gosling,
3863	Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 6/2003]
3864
3865	Fans von reflexiven und komplexen Musikstilen wie Klassik, Blues, Jazz und
3866	Folk sind offen, tolerant und machen gerne neue Erfahrungen. Sie halten
3867	sich für intelligent - und sind es auch. Außerdem können sie gut mit
3868	Worten umgehen, schätzen das schöne. haben eine starke Vorstellungskraft
3869	und sind politisch liberal eingestellt. Sie sind häufig etwas unsportlich
3870	und wollen andere nicht dominieren.
3871
3872	Anhänger von intensiven und rebellischen Musikrichtungen wie Heavy Metal,
3873	Rock und alternativer Musik sind offen für Experimente. Sie halten sich
3874	außerdem für intelligent, eloquent und sportlich. Obwohl die Musik, die
3875	sie bevorzugen, vorwiegend negatives ausdrückt, scheint dies nicht auf
3876	sie abzufärben: Sie sind weder neurotischer noch unverträglicher als die
3877	Fans anderer Musikrichtungen. Darüber hinaus sind sie wissensdurstig,
3878	risikobereit und körperlich aktiv.
3879
3880	Beschwingt und konventionell. So bezeichnen Rentfrow und Gosling
3881	Popsongs und Schmusehits, Countrymusik, Filmmusik und religiöse Musik
3882	(Spirituals, Gospels, Kirchenlieder). Wer diese Musik gerne hört, ist ein
3883	umgänglicher Zeitgenosse: Er geht gern aus sich heraus, ist verträglich,
3884	fröhlich, zuverlässig, hilfsbereit und gewissenhaft. Seine Einstellungen
3885	sind eher konservativ, Beredesamkeit und Offenheit sind nicht seine
3886	Stärken. Dafür hält er sich aber für attraktiv und vor allem für
3887	sportlich.
3888
3889	Wer sich für energetische und rhythmische Musik begeistern kann (Rap,
3890	Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, Electronica) trägt sein Herz auf der Zunge. Er
3891	ist umgänglich, quirlig, liberal eingestellt, extravertiert und ein
3892	wenig eitel: Er hält sich für attraktiv und sportlich. Konservatives
3893	Gedankengut und Dominanz über andere liegen ihm hingegen fern.
3894
3895	Die besten verbalen Fähigkeiten haben die Angehörigen der ersten beiden
3896	Gruppen. Am wenigsten beredt ist die dritte Gruppe. An analytischem
3897	Verstand mangelt es vor allen den Musikhörern der vierten Gruppe.
3898	während die erste Gruppe, gefolgt von der zweiten, am meisten davon
3899	vorzuweisen hat.
3900
3901	"Die intelligenteste Gruppe bevorzugt die komplexeste Musik", sagen die
3902	Forscher.
3903	%
3904	[Very well-written article on the legal foundazion of licensing, and
3905	the extreme difference in what a free software license does vs. a
3906	EULA-style license]
3907	http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/cores/2005/01/001453
3908	%
3909	The Pirate Bay is a BitTorrent tracking site in Sweden with 150,000 users
3910	a day. In the fall, it posted a torrent for Shrek 2. Dreamworks sent a
3911	cease-and-desist letter demanding the site remove it. One of the site's
3912	pseudonymous owners, Anakata, replied: "As you may or may not be aware,
3913	Sweden is not a state in the United States of America. Sweden is a country
3914	in northern Europe [and] US law does not apply here. ... It is the opinion
3915	of us and our lawyers that you are fucking morons." Shrek 2 stayed up.
3916	%
3917	Java is, in many ways, C++--. (Michael Feldman)
3918	%
3919	[Happy New Year]
3920	23:42 -!- zaphod [jkneer@fatboy.laendle] has quit [Quit: Hochhaus]
3921	Day changed to 01 Jan 2005
3922	00:24 <schmorp> re
3923	%
3924	[http://www.calsky.com/lexikon/de/txt/f/fe/fehlschluss.php]
3925	Im besten Fall kann die Verknüpfung zweier Tatsachen Verdachtsmomente
3926	liefern, die mit wissenschaftlichen Methoden abgeklärt werden
3927	sollen. Was eine wissenschaftliche Methode ist, ist Gegenstand anderer
3928	wissenschaftlicher Untersuchungen.
3929	%
3930	[funny page(s), although I think it's sad that people trying to "debunk"
3931	bad science theories are prone to the same logical fallacies as the
3932	proponents of such theories.]
3933	http://www.xs4all.nl/~mke/Planet-X.htm
3934	"On the Internet, there's a picture circulating that's supposedly `secret
3935	evidence' from Russia, proving Planet X is an inhabited world. The makers
3936	took the original photo (top left), enlarged it, and upgraded it with
3937	`solarize' and `find edges'. And look... Suddenly, you see all kinds of
3938	spaceships orbiting the planet! (top right) I followed exactly the same
3939	procedure, using a photo of one Robert Bridson, math student at Stanford
3940	University (below, left). After enlarging and solarizing the photograph,
3941	it became clear that mr. Bridsons left ear actually is inhabited by
3942	intelligent beings, since there clearly is a spaceship taking off from it
3943	(below, right)."
3944	%
3945	[wonderful info...]
3946	http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/
3947	[useful info...]
3948	http://www.snopes.com/
3949	%
3950	Computer analyst to programmer:
3951	"You start coding. I'll go find out what they want."
3952	%
3953	[Fun!]
3954	http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
3955	%
3956	[Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 11/2004, über Informationstransport im All]
3957	"Wenn unsere Vettern im Kosmos wirklich intelligent sind, werden ihre
3958	Computer sicher nicht mit Microsoft-Betriebssystemen ausgestattet sein."
3959	%
3960	[in our continued series, "solaris source code", today, /bin/true]
3961	ddev5:~$ cat /bin/true
3962	#!/usr/bin/sh
3963	# Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
3964	# All Rights Reserved
3965
3966	# THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
3967	# The copyright notice above does not evidence any
3968	# actual or intended publication of such source code.
3969
3970	#ident "@(#)true.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.4 */
3971	ddev5:~$
3972	%
3973	22:07 <elmex> schmorp: naja, es beweist das das konzept von java nicht funktioniert
3974	22:07 <schmorp> elmex: welches konzept?
3975	22:07 <elmex> das "hack dir die beine ab, und lauf nen marathon"-konzept ;)
3976	%
3977	[Gtk2/Makefile.PL]
3978	# win32 does not allow unresolved symbols in libraries, but
3979	# Gtk2 uses on symbols in the dll created for Glib.
3980	# so, we have to break all this nice abstraction and encapsulation
3981	# and find the actual Glib.dll and Glib.lib installed by perl when
3982	# the Glib module was built, and add it to the list of lib files.
3983	#
3984	# say it with me: "i hate win32."
3985	%
3986	Immerhin meint die Filmförderungsanstalt, im Jahr 2002 seien 59
3987	Millionen CD-Rohlinge von 5,9 Millionen Nutzern mit Filmen bespielt
3988	worden, im Durchschnitt also zwo:lf Rohlinge pro Anwender.
3989	-- <http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/see-08.04.03-000/>
3990	%
3991	http://otierney.net/images/perl6.gif
3992	%
3993	[http://www.kinderschaender.de/begriff.htm]
3994	Das einzige, was die Seite wirklich gezeigt hat, ist, daß es kaum Menschen
3995	gibt, die weiter denken als ein Schwein scheißt.
3996	%
3997	http://www.paulgraham.com/fix.html
3998	[I'd say ALL the essays on http://www.paulgraham.com/articles.html
3999	are readable, and in most cases I wholeheartedly agree with them.]
4000	%
4001	http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/security_report_windows_vs_linux/
4002	%
4003	[From: CRYPTO-GRAM]
4004	Bill Gates points out that all those IE security holes have not been
4005	Microsoft's fault. (The first step towards recovery is recognizing
4006	that you have a problem.)
4007	<http://slashdot.org/articles/04/10/15/015239.shtml?tid=109&tid=1>
4008	%
4009	[top output on redhat9, with one real-time priority process]
4010	PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME CPU COMMAND
4011	25788 root 18446744073709551565 0 10076 9.8M 2816 S 0.9 1.9 0:01
4012	26064 root 21 0 1508 1508 1184 S 0.3 0.2 0:00 0 curl
4013
4014	[I am continually amazed at how redhat is able to break utilities that worked
4015	and work on other distributions without flaws again and again and again...]
4016	%
4017	That depends. There is C++ and there is C++. There are many different
4018	sorts of C++, I'll talk about 2 of them:
4019
4020	Category 1 code is 'C with classes and on-the-fly variable
4021	declarations'. It uses macros, bad encapsulation, no const-correctness,
4022	etc. Category 1 code tends to either use object oriented programing
4023	exclusively, or use it combined with procedural programming. Other
4024	programming paradigms are extremely rare. It often uses non-portable hacks
4025	because Standard-knowledge is scarce among category 1 coders. Category 1
4026	code is seen mostly in Flipcode and Gamedev.net articles and forums. Also
4027	it is seen in almost every API ever developed by Microsoft. A slightly
4028	less bad version of category 1 code is seen in libraries that call
4029	themselves "high-quality C++ libraries" but that don't even use a single
4030	namespace and rely heavily on macros and other unsafe preprocessing
4031	techniques where this is totally unnecessary. Most of those libraries are
4032	that way because they were started before the 1998 C++ Standard's stuff
4033	got implemented in main-stream compilers.
4034
4035	Category 2 code is what I'd like to see as the meaning of the term
4036	"C++ code". It is Standard-compliant, uses multiple programming
4037	paradigms and is pushing the language to the max (and beyond ;) to
4038	create easy to use, efficient, highly-reusable and easy to extend
4039	programs/libraries/modules/etc. Unfortunately, category 2 code is
4040	hard to write when you have to work with incompetent compilers like
4041	MSVC6/7. Category 2 code is mostly seen in:
4042	%
4043	[On "Main Loop with Fixed Time Steps", a Windows programmer commented:]
4044
4045	Just to point out, With a tick being a maximum of FFFFFFFFh, you only
4046	have about 49 days of tick time since the system has started! Though I
4047	doubt any game or even system runs for that long.
4048	%
4049	[http://www.paulgraham.com/popular.html]
4050	"The best writing is rewriting," wrote E. B. White. Every good writer
4051	knows this, and it's true for software too.
4052	%
4053	> think it needs the Ultimate Refactor..."rm -rf programs/Xserver/GL"
4054
4055	... and I was told "rm -rf" means "read mail, really fast!"
4056	;)
4057	%
4058	[this is not a blogggggg]
4059	One fine day, I removed the "video=matrox:off" from my kernel commandline,
4060	having removed the matrox card from my machine months ago. Promptly, the
4061	proprietary nvidia driver greeted me with:
4062
4063	NVIDIA: Failed to map framebuffer memors
4064
4065	Adding the video option back made it work again. No, I do not have any
4066	framebuffer devices compiled into the kernel, either...
4067	%
4068	[taken out of a public mail by a journalist... I have never seen anybody
4069	using so many abbreviations...]
4070
4071	Hi Volker -
4072
4073	alles klar ..!? Bin mit dem Buch i. Stretch .. Lektorat / Korrektorat
4074	Architekturbuch ... wie üblich, kennst das ja wahrsch. auch ... alles zu
4075	spät ...
4076
4077	Dann gehts direktemang in die Ferien (2 Wochen Gomera ab komm. SA ...)
4078
4079	Ja, und dann find ich doch Volker ganz Massiv im Briefkasten a. SA ..
4080
4081	schönes Foto von dir ... 1 Seite .. 2 seiten Interview, m. Fortsetzung im
4082	nächsten Heft ..!!! (äusserst rar b. nem Interview ...)
4083
4084	herzliche Grüsse
4085
4086	tom
4087
4088	PS: Mein Wissenschtf.Kollege und Filmemacher ist der Meinung, dass das Thema
4089	'Copyrights, Commons, Freedom' etc ...spannend wäre, aber schlecht fürs TV
4090	... Du kannst prakt. nichts mehr themat. Anspruchsvolles machen ... auch b.
4091	Arte war irgend nen Problem (fällt mir auf d. Schnelle nicht mehr ein ...
4092	schon ein paar Wochen her ...)
4093	%
4094	From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
4095	Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4
4096	Message-ID: <20040826183838.GE2793@holomorphy.com>
4097
4098	On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 02:02:29AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
4099	> How old are you? I thought you were the guy at Linux Tag with fashion
4100	> oriented hair who gave a talk on his XFS work? Did I confuse you with
4101	> someone else?
4102
4103	Index: mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS
4104	===================================================================
4105	--- mm1-2.6.9-rc1.orig/CREDITS 2004-08-26 10:37:57.424567967 -0700
4106	+++ mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS 2004-08-26 11:35:24.977260109 -0700
4107	@@ -2677,6 +2677,14 @@
4108	S: 79098 Freiburg
4109	S: Germany
4110
4111	+N: Hans Reiser
4112	+E: reiser@namesys.com
4113	+W: http://www.namesys.com/
4114	+D: official Linux kernel hairstyle critic
4115	+S: 6979 Exeter Dr
4116	+S: Oakland, CA 94611
4117	+S: USA
4118	+
4119	N: Joerg Reuter
4120	E: jreuter@yaina.de
4121	W: http://yaina.de/jreuter/
4122	%
4123	Partial lynx-output for mail sent by "T-Online Vertragsbrief":
4124	[poeppel_magenta.gif]
4125	%
4126	[http://www.dark-skies.org/theproblems.html#security]
4127	Better ligthing does not affect crime rates
4128	%
4129	[http://www.immunitysec.com/downloads/tc0.pdf]
4130	Label: "Difficulty of owning Windows vs. Difficulty to make this graph"
4131	%
4132	[rxvt-unicode (mine! :) vs. gnome-terminal :)]
4133	[http://bugs.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137864]
4134	[...]
4135	Upgrading to major: the first person to fix this (fix = performance is
4136	within a factor of 2 of rxvt-unicode for all four of the tests here) gets
4137	$50 from me, or an expensive dinner + all the beer they can handle if they
4138	ever visit Sydney, Australia ;)
4139	[...]
4140	Tagging this critical+urgent. How dare I, you ask? Doubling the reward -
4141	$100 if this is fixed (see above) before September 1, 2004. $0 after that
4142	(and I'll return it to a normal bug ;) If anyone else wants to contribute
4143	to whoever ends up fixing this, please join in..
4144	%
4145	[SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301268,00.html]
4146	[SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301538,00.html]
4147	Dass die Flimmerkiste ein beliebiges "Nullmedium" sei, beklagen
4148	Kulturkritiker von jeher. Doch nun zeigt selbst ein unvoreingenommener
4149	Blick aufs TV-Programm: Die Quote ist heilig, das Niveau sinkt auf breiter
4150	Front - auch bei ARD und ZDF. Verdummt die Na
4151	%
4152	[SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM,ed-XX1sNy0yR7p~QMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/brainleak%202004-03-02.html]
4153	[...] Tech savvy people will be inclining towards clicking the cancel
4154	button by default whenever they are presented a question which they don't
4155	fully understand, or didn't expect to see. Regular computer users will
4156	be inclined to press the Ok button instead, because they fear that by
4157	clicking cancel they might be causing something they don't understand not
4158	to work, something that they probably won't be able to fix afterwards
4159	anyway. If a geek fucks up somehow, he'll know what to do to fix it
4160	anyway, so there's no harm done clicking cancel. [...]
4161	%
4162	[http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/00/10/marienbad.html]
4163	I once had a postmodern intertextual moment at a drugstore bookrack when I
4164	picked up a paperback with the following title: Bram Stoker's Dracula:
4165	A Novelization Based on the Original Screenplay.
4166	%
4167	[bts show 215647]
4168	[yes, the whole thing]
4169	%
4170	[bts show 254316]
4171	> > The problem is not in luit, it's not in XTerm, it's not even in termcap;
4172	> > it's in the morass of complexity that some mindless jerk who'll be first
4173	> > against the wall when the revolution comes standardised as ISO 2022.
4174	>
4175	> ( google suggests 2022 has many fans ;-)
4176
4177	We'll use a larger wall.
4178	%
4179	[Maedhros35 about "Clockwork Orange" on IMDB]
4180	This is a movie I would not recommend even to my worst enemy. It is a
4181	horrible picture, containing too much random violence and rape committed
4182	by four no-goods in white pyjamas, than is good for anyone too watch.
4183
4184	The only fun moment is when the main character, being brainwashed into a
4185	non-violent state of mind, is being bashed by his former friends.
4186
4187	There may be some "hidden message" in this movie about society and blah,
4188	but the message (not too well brought) is completely drowned.
4189
4190	It is not even a waste of your time, it is worse than that. Avoid at all
4191	cost.
4192	["too much violence" but "the only fun moment".... What the...!?]
4193	%
4194	When searching on google for:
4195
4196	kakerlake schabe made
4197
4198	Google asked me wether I instead wanted to look for:
4199
4200	kakerlake _schwabe_ made
4201	%
4202	What we learned this week;
4203	"Hell is a bad place to be and renders with 8-12fps"
4204	%
4205	"Britain is one of only three countries in the world (the others are
4206	Germany and Egypt) enduring stricter censorship today than 25years ago"
4207	%
4208	[translated]
4209	23:07 <schmorp> libtool is soo broken
4210	23:07 <schmorp> ./libtool gcc-3.4 ...
4211	23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
4212	23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
4213	23:07 <schmorp> ...
4214	23:07 <schmorp> libtool --tag=ulubulu
4215	23:07 <schmorp> libtool: ignoring unknown tag ulubulu
4216	23:07 <schmorp> and it works
4217	%
4218	History does not repeat itself. Historians repeat each other.
4219	-- Lord Balfour
4220	%
4221	The whole of Mozilla is just one big focus bug.
4222	%
4223	<Beerman> When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then
4224	I realised that The Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked
4225	him to forgive me.
4226	%
4227	[slashdot]
4228	> there are currently no active, reliable ways to obtain the program listings for New Zealand television
4229
4230	I have been to NZ. You have no television.
4231	%
4232	[IMDB user about "What?" by Roman Polanski]
4233	"What?" fills the gap for those who get a kick out of 70's porn plots, but
4234	get bored during the sex scenes.
4235	%
4236	I say to you that the VCR is to the ... American public as the Boston
4237	strangler is to the woman home alone.
4238	- Jack Valenti (CEO, MPAA)
4239	%
4240	[Bruce Schneier]
4241	SP2 is an important security upgrade to Windows XP, and I hope it is
4242	widely installed among licensed XP users. I also hope it is quickly
4243	pirated, so unlicensed XP users can also install it. In order for me
4244	to remain secure on the Internet, I need everyone to become more
4245	secure. And the more people who install SP2, the more we all benefit.
4246	%
4247	[From Paul Eggert]
4248	[...] Worse, HP-UX asctime rejects any tm_year that is negative; this
4249	violates the C standard, but HP won't take my bug reports since I'm not a
4250	HP-UX customer. [...]
4251	%
4252	>>>Just curious, If I recall correctly, didn't Forth used to be FORTH?
4253	>>
4254	>>Since FORTH is not an acronym (the way BASIC, LISP, FORTRAN and C are)
4255	>>but a (deliberate) misspelling of "fourth", when it became possible to
4256	>>use LC the fashion became to do so. My book, "Scientific FORTH" (1992)
4257	>>spelled it in UC.
4258	>
4259	>
4260	> BASIC, LISP and FORTRAN are acronyms. C isn't.
4261
4262	C isn't all caps, just the initial letter.
4263	%
4264	[comp.lang.c]
4265	> According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language
4266
4267	I'm sorry, but that's like quoting Bjarne Stroustrup on correct ISO C
4268	usage.
4269
4270	Richard
4271	%
4272	I remember Elwyn Berlekamp describing what goes on at computer go
4273	tournaments (where computer programs play go against each other) - unlike
4274	at computer chess tournaments where the programs far surpass their
4275	creators, at go tournaments the creators sit there and look at a game in
4276	play and say things to each other like, "Gosh, I wonder if my program will
4277	repair that weakness before your program notices it."
4278	%
4279	21:40 <oesi> sansho: du bist kindisch. :)
4280	21:40 <sansho> oesi: das hab ich mir von dir abgeguckt
4281	%
4282	MarkD [-]: The trouble with political jokes is that some of them get elected
4283	%
4284	A coherent understanding of Philosophy will convince you that you are
4285	competent to understand the universe and achieve the human values that
4286	make life meaningful. You will know when you know something and when you
4287	don't, when you understand something and when you don't, and why. You
4288	will also realize why morality and ethics are too important to be left to
4289	anyone but yourself. You will learn that there are no shortcuts to truth,
4290	no authorities you can follow blindly, and perhaps most important, that
4291	nothing at all exists except reality. In sum, you will know what human
4292	existence means and implies.
4293
4294	[Introduction to Philosophy, Joel Katz]
4295	%
4296	> > Casts from void* are necessary in C++, not in C.
4297	>
4298	> I am aware... I'm fishing for more info! Perhaps if I reposted again and
4299	> said you were wrong I'll get more...
4300	>
4301	> You're WRONG!
4302
4303	void* is implicitly converted to the destination pointer type (C99 §6.3.2.3
4304	and §7.20.3.1).
4305	%
4306	From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu>
4307	In the DOS days, I had a scattering of students who really
4308	knew about computers. In the XP days, I have none.
4309	%
4310	[another variation, more useful]
4311	A. It should be obvious.
4312	Q. How is it hard?
4313	A. Because it makes it hard to follow conversations.
4314	Q. Why is top-posting bad?
4315	%
4316	[windows is a good place to learn programming]
4317	Subject: Linux c prog doesn't work on Sun Solaris Machine....?
4318
4319	Compiled using g++ on linux and then I tried to execute it on Solaris.
4320	The error message was something like "can't execute a.out"
4321
4322	- works ok on linux
4323	- ran chmod so Sun user has execute/read/etc permissions. chmod u=rwx
4324
4325	Any clues why?
4326	I am new to the non windows world.
4327
4328	Thanks
4329	%
4330	[comp.lang.c]
4331	> I want to write some data on the EEPROM of a PIC 16F877 microcontroller via
4332	> serial port rs232. What library can I use with a gcc compiler to perform
4333	> this ?
4334
4335	This is not a C question. Please try asking again in comp.arch.embedded where
4336	we will advise you to use an 8051, AVR, or MSP430 instead of the PIC.
4337	%
4338	[comp.std.c]
4339	In message <c4k0mj$fmp$1@sunnews.cern.ch>
4340	Dan.Pop@cern.ch (Dan Pop) wrote:
4341
4342	> In <nfa0k1-03l.ln1@jones.homeip.net> lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com writes:
4343	>
4344	> >The text of the standard only yields one reasonable interpretation.
4345	>
4346	> Yup, mine!
4347	%
4348	[links-2.1pre13 ChangeLog]
4349	Thu Oct 9 16:44:10 GMT 2003 mikulas:
4350
4351	Do not print 1000l on FreeBSD console on exit
4352	%
4353	[an old question, revisited]
4354	http://www.style.org/unladenswallow/
4355	%
4356	[comp.lang.c]
4357	> can any one translate the following codes into c++ codes,
4358
4359	This is comp.lang.c. We do C, not C++. We do not translate C into
4360	obfuscated languages. The good news is that your code already _is_ C++.
4361	%
4362	[comp.lang.c]
4363	I didn't say he was incorrect. I said he was an idiot.
4364	%
4365	according to babelfish "glibber" in german means "more glibber" in english :-)
4366	%
4367	[Debian Bug #163625 features one of my favourite bug report subjects:]
4368	Installing additional mozilla Debian packages
4369	deletes additionally installed mozilla packages
4370	%
4371	[Aus einer Werbung für dne "Windows-Berater". Es ist erschreckend, zeigt
4372	aber, das manche Maßnahmen von Microsoft völlig irreführenderweise als
4373	Sicherheitsmaßnahme verstanden und dargestellt werden. Ich frage mich, wie
4374	DRM in Zukunft aufgenommen und beworben werden wird...]
4375
4376	"Kaum angekündigt, schon ist der Registrierungsschutz geknackt"
4377
4378	Das neue Windows XP lässt sich nur mit einem besonderen Registrierungscode
4379	dauerhaft betreiben. Besorgt sich der Anwender diese Lizenz nicht,
4380	wird das System gesperrt. Damit sollen Raubkopien und unerlaubte
4381	Mehrfachnutzung verhindert werden. Kaum vorgestellt, knacken Hacker
4382	diese Verschlüsselung schon. Checklisten zeigen Ihnen, wie dieser Klau
4383	abläuft. Damit Sie sich und Ihr System vor ungebetenen Zugriffen und Viren
4384	schützen können.
4385	%
4386	[Reiner Gamma]
4387	http://www.geocities.com/kc5lei/SWIRL2001.htm
4388	%
4389	>> Asshole keep you shit out of alt.binaries.games.adult until you read
4390	[...]
4391	>Dude, thisi is not "alt.binaries.games.adult".
4392	[...]
4393	Yes, it is. Or, it was, till your post cut the crosspost. It was
4394	crossposted to several groups and the person you're replying to will
4395	never get your message.
4396	%
4397	[http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/doc/Details.html.pl]
4398	As this project will always run unknown binary code of proprietary W32
4399	filesystem drivers, the code can never be trusted.
4400	%
4401	[http://www.hello-penguin.com/gtm-perl/doc/Perl.html]
4402	(look at the BUGS section... very funny to read, btw., it's
4403	a sourceforge project called GT.M).
4404	%
4405	bigger things. We\\\\\\\'d be using C + asm and Hax
4406	01:15 <Sesse> we all the backslashes?
4407	01:15 <schmorp> no idea, i have these in some of my descriptions, too
4408	01:15 <schmorp> it seems that sourceofrge does " -> \" on every deascription change
4409	01:15 <Sesse> sounds like php
4410	01:15 <schmorp> i guess it's written in php
4411	01:15 <schmorp> g
4412	01:15 <Sesse> :-D
4413	%
4414	http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/
4415	[...] At the beginning I didn't expect that I would actually succeed,
4416	since I thought I would need almost half of that just for the headers. I
4417	think my first cut was 458 bytes in size. I was quite pleased with myself
4418	when I trimmed that down to less than 300 bytes, ecstatic when I finally
4419	reached the 255-byte goal, and downright triumphant when I later got it to
4420	work in 238 bytes. By the time I had a 198-byte version, I was just plain
4421	dumbfounded. It's now at 171 bytes. [...]
4422	%
4423	[http://www.mindspring.com/~kimall/Japanese/polite.html]
4424	[...] Americans didn't invent English (although the Brits will happily
4425	disown our mangled version of it! :-) ) [...]
4426	%
4427	[Eugene Spafford]
4428	During the heights of some of the recent viruses, I was discarding 30Mb of
4429	email per day -- all of it viruses. And I should point out -- viruses for
4430	Windows. There have been something like 100,000 viruses for MS operating
4431	systems, only about 50 for the Mac, and about 3 for commercial Unix
4432	systems. That difference isn't because of a difference in the prevalence
4433	of the machines -- there are basic architectural differences.
4434	%
4435	[http://MarginalHacks.com/]
4436	If you can't vi it, it sucks.
4437	%
4438	[from the somewhat outdated xterm-faq]
4439	GNOME TERMINAL
4440	[...]
4441	The documentation is fragmentary (with a comment suggesting that the
4442	author does not know where to find relevant information), and the program
4443	fares badly with vttest. [...] But it suffices for vi.
4444	[.. later]
4445	There is a variation of xvt (ancestor of rxvt) originally known as kvt
4446	bundled with KDE which may be referred to as "kterm", but I do not find it
4447	interesting, other than to comment that it was a poor choice of name.
4448	%
4449	[I love X programs]
4450	[xc/programs/xprop/xprop.c]
4451	/*
4452	* blip: a debugging routine. Prints Blip! on stderr with flushing.
4453	*/
4454	void blip()
4455	{
4456	fflush(stdout);
4457	fprintf(stderr, "blip!\n");
4458	fflush(stderr);
4459	}
4460	%
4461	[pavel machek commenting on a proposed patch]
4462	+ int alternative_order = 999;
4463
4464	Why not 666? :-).
4465	%
4466	[yosh on gimp-developer]
4467	It's also better to research your suggestions a little, so that they don't
4468	sound completely out there, thereby reinforcing the viewpoint that Windows
4469	users are clueless.
4470	%
4471	[modularity makes unix systems more secure]
4472	http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/36029.html
4473	%
4474	[beware german translations]
4475	dpkg: Warnung - ignoriere Kollision, kann sowieso weitermachen!
4476	%
4477	[http://www.cypherspace.org/adam/hacks/lotus-nsa-key.html, look around there]
4478	NSA's Backdoor Key from Lotus-Notes
4479	%
4480	The word "ampersand" is an alteration of the phrase "et, per se and" (that
4481	is: "et by itself [means] and"), which became corrupted to "and, per se
4482	and", and finally, ampersand.
4483	%
4484	[xc/lib/X11/lcUTF8.c]
4485	[...] We distinguish three classes of clients: [1st] [...] [2nd] Clients
4486	which accept CompoundText with multiple character sets and parse it
4487	themselves. (Example: emacs, xemacs.) [3rd] [...] In a distant future,
4488	when clients of the first and second kind will have disappeared, [...]
4489	%
4490	[linux-2.6/drivers/md/Kconfig]
4491	WARNING: RAID-6 is currently highly experimental. If you
4492	use it, there is no guarantee whatsoever that it won't
4493	destroy your data, eat your disk drives, insult your mother,
4494	or re-appoint George W. Bush.
4495	%
4496	[http://www.herodios.com/herron_tc/atsign.html]
4497	Many Finnish terms for @ are connected with cats. Not content with naming
4498	the sign for what it looks like, Finnish names it for what it looks like
4499	sounds like. In addition to "kissanhnta [cat's tail], "miau," "miumau,"
4500	and "miuku" are all "miau merkki" [meow marks] in Finnish. Other terms
4501	from Finnish include "apinanhanta" [a monkey's tail], or "hiirenhanta"
4502	[mouse's tail]. Some "computer people" use the English word "at."
4503	%
4504	17:07 <oesi> schmorp: mal ein guter kommentar auf heise zum thema "Bill tourt durch
4505	die USA und kündigt innovative neuentwicklungen an"
4506	17:08 <oesi> Kommentar war: "was hat er angekündigt: drive-letter in unicode?"
4507	%
4508	[Ken Lunde about his copy of KS C 5657-1991:]
4509	Here's another interesting note. My official copy of this
4510	standard has all of its 2,856 hanja hand-written.
4511	%
4512	[cvs, while checking in changes to uunet's radiusd]
4513	confused about file platform.h -- ignoring
4514	%
4515	[http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/02/24/1011245.shtml]
4516	And most likely, the FBI didn't tell the hosting company exactly what it
4517	is they wanted. When the Feds come in with a search warrant, they don't
4518	ask for your help. They say, "stand aside" and commence
4519	%
4520	http://www.bash.org/?178890
4521	%
4522	[http://www.bash.org/?75016]
4523	<ig3l\|Guel> If Osama B. isn't in Afghanistan, and if he isn't dead, we believe he is in another country" - US army General
4524	%
4525	00:56 <oesi> ulpfr: ich schrieb mal einen kompletten mailer in emacs, weil mir rmail
4526	nicht gefallen hat. man wird aelter und reifer und droppt dann emacs
4527	einfach :)
4528	00:56 <ulpfr> Weichei
4529	%
4530	[spca50x.sourceforge.net]
4531	/*
4532	* Function compares two strings.
4533	* Return offset in pussy where prick ends if "prick" may penetrate
4534	* int "pussy" like prick into pussy, -1 otherwise.
4535	*/
4536	static inline int match(const char* prick, const char* pussy, int len2)
4537	{
4538	int len1 = strlen(prick); //length of male string
4539	[...]
4540	%
4541	http://www.leckse.net/profilieren/chat
4542	%
4543	rohw, schleymig und formlos Fleisch wie di Schleuch eines Tündenfischs
4544	%
4545	[rxvt-*/src/init.[cC]]
4546	/* grab colors before netscape does */
4547	Get_Colours ();
4548	%
4549	[oesi über apache-2.0]
4550	03:10 <oesi> ist mir egal, ich fahre alle 24h den apache runter...
4551	03:10 <oesi> ich fahre praktisch das 1.3er config-file. das gibt sicherheit :)
4552	03:11 <oesi> ich kann apache nicht stoppen.
4553	03:11 <oesi> apachectl stop
4554	03:11 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
4555	03:11 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
4556	03:12 <oesi> wie konnte ich den starten?
4557	03:12 <schmorp> rofl
4558	[...]
4559	03:29 <oesi> es ist kein scherz. wirklich:
4560	03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl sslstart
4561	03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl stop
4562	03:29 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
4563	03:29 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
4564	%
4565	[http://www.jmarshall.com/tools/cgiproxy/]
4566	[...] Here's a demo (username "free", password "speech") [...]
4567	%
4568	[rxvt/src/screen.C]
4569	#ifdef DEBUG_STRICT
4570	assert(screen.cur.row >= 0);
4571	#else /* drive with your eyes closed */
4572	MAX_IT(screen.cur.row, 0);
4573	#endif
4574	%
4575	[http://www.mine-control.com/zack/timesync/timesync.html]
4576	[...] Also, anecdotal evidence from network programmers suggests that the
4577	UDP implementation under Win32 is unstable and overly-unreliable. [...]
4578	%
4579	> > Ceterum censeo \| PGP encrypted mail preferred.
4580	> > Redmond esse delendam. \| PGP Key at www.MPA-Garching.MPG.de/~nog/
4581	>
4582	> Willkomme im Club .... :-)))
4583
4584	Danke - ich bin schon lange dabei... ;-)
4585	--
4586	OpenVMS @ 25 \| Martin Vorlaender \| VMS & WNT programmer
4587	%
4588	Um die Jahrhundertwende erfand ein Mann namens Friedolin Tär einen
4589	IQ-Test, der die Gesamtpersönlichkeit sehr stark miteinbezog.
4590	Charakterstärke, Grosszügigkeit, flexibles Denken etc. wurden also
4591	mitbewertet. Die Skala mit der Maßeinheit "Tär" wies ein großes Spektrum
4592	auf. Ärzte, Wissenschaftler erreichen IQ's im Megatär-Bereich. Der
4593	Durchschnittsmensch weist einige Kilotär auf. Nach unten gibt es Dezitär,
4594	Centitär... und schießlich Mil(l)itär...
4595	%
4596	http://senseis.xmp.net/?GetStrongAtGote
4597	http://users.skynet.be/rexburton/ritchie.htm
4598	%
4599	Subject: [Swsusp-devel] 2.6.1: It could go faster if I didn't have egg on my face.
4600	%
4601	"It's not Hollywood. War is real, war is primarily not about defeat or
4602	victory, it is about death. I've seen thousands and thousands of dead
4603	bodies. Do you think I want to have an academic debate on this subject?"
4604	-- Robert Fisk
4605	%
4606	[the satellite death spiral: why spacecraft are unnecessarily expensive]
4607	http://www.dynacon.ca/pdf/files/newspdf_63.pdf
4608	[see also the small satellites homepage]
4609	http://centaur.sstl.co.uk/SSHP/
4610	%
4611	[http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/files/lec_lev.htm]
4612	"Anthropologists concur that America is an exceedingly 'low-touch,'
4613	high-violence culture"
4614	[...]
4615	"[...] Republican members of the House of Representatives called for the
4616	resignation of Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders, whose transgression was to
4617	suggest, in response to a question following a speech to sex educators,
4618	that masturbation was an appropriate subject for classroom discussion.
4619	This remark, according to one congressman, was part of a social movement
4620	that was "killing the moral fiber of America" and just one symptom of
4621	a decline also manifested in reckless driving, an indecisive military
4622	policy-dubbed "mission creep," and homosexuals in the Boy Scouts." [...]
4623
4624	Masturbation is an absolute taboo in the US. Many adults still think that
4625	they are the only ones who do such dirty things.
4626	%
4627	From: <[...]@aol.com>
4628	Subject: Re: [...]
4629
4630	Marc wrote on 1/7/2004, 6:57 AM:
4631
4632	> Congrats. No kidding, you are the first person @aol that ever sent me a
4633	> sensible mail. I was planning to reject mail from aol.com right away
4634	> since (in the last 8 years at least), nothing good came from there, but you
4635	> saved it :)
4636
4637	Yeah, I get that a lot, but you've got to know that .aol.com email
4638	addresses are also used by the people who work for AOL (cough, cough :).
4639	[...]
4640	%
4641	From: Alan Cox
4642	> The code to disable prefetch on Athlon is 300 bytes and hurts your PIV?
4643	> Really? I'll dig back through the code, but I recall it as adding or
4644	> deleting an entry in a table to enable prefetch. If it's affecting PIV the
4645	> code to use prefetch is seriously broken.
4646
4647	Big time. Its over 300 bytes long because its embedded in each inline
4648	prefetch and it causes a branch misprediction almost every time. Amazing
4649	what you find when you actually measure stuff 8)
4650	[...]
4651	%
4652	http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4653	%
4654	http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4655	%
4656	http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4657	%
4658	[FYI: java was officially announced in 1995, and certainly didn't exist
4659	even as a concept before 1991. It's interesting how many people nowadays
4660	claim to have decades of java experience]
4661	On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:11:54AM -0500, Robert Soros <robert@soros.ca> wrote:
4662	> I am extremely excited about your ideas to fix freenet and would be
4663	> willing to plug your code into fred (I have fourteen years java
4664	> programming experience.) Could you provide a link to your code? What
4665	%
4666	http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4667	%
4668	http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4669	%
4670	http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4671	%
4672	[in a private discussion about some potential problem that would cause]
4673	[mail not to be delivered]
4674	> > On the other hand, I see the same in some mail from RMS.
4675	>
4676	> Well, just because rms does it does not mean... :)
4677
4678	My point is that the FSF is unlikely to install something that
4679	bounces RMS's mail, at least, not for long.
4680	%
4681	On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Piers Cawley wrote:
4682
4683	> David Cantrell <david@cantrell.org.uk> writes:
4684	>
4685	> > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 11:16:52AM -0500, Tommie M. Jones wrote:
4686	> >> Anyone know of any perl software that does resume parsing.
4687	> >
4688	> > I don't think anyone has implemented continuations in perl, so I fail
4689	> > to see how you can have resumes. Or are you trying to parse some other
4690	> > language which does support this?
4691	>
4692
4693	Just because we share a language does not mean we understand each other.
4694
4695	In America there are two meanings for resume. One being to continue the
4696	other the equivalent of what ya'll call a CV (I think though I've never
4697	heard the term before) In the second definition resume is pronounced with
4698	a short u. I think there is a "`" in the proper spelling of the word but
4699	since Americans are not use to using punctuation in their words (other
4700	than to show ownership and contractions) it is usually loss.
4701	%
4702	echo $package has manual pages available in source form.
4703	echo "However, you don't have nroff, so they're probably useless to you."
4704	--Larry Wall in Configure from the perl distribution
4705	%
4706	AFTER 30 years of "daylight saving" - moving the clocks forward in the
4707	spring and then back again in the autumn - there is still an Abolish
4708	Daylight Saving Committee in New South Wales, Australia.
4709
4710	Added to the usual claims of such campaigns - for example, that the
4711	extra hour of daylight in the evening in summer fades the curtains - is
4712	a new one from ADSC spokeswoman Judith Hall, of Gunnedah, who told the
4713	Sydney Morning Herald: "No man has the right to choose the time of the
4714	rising and setting of the sun, only God."
4715
4716	Reader John McCallum, who told us about this, is surprised Hall doesn't
4717	explain why God doesn't simply exercise this choice. When people insist
4718	on moving their clocks forward, He should just move the sunrise forward
4719	and thwart them that way.
4720	%
4721	[Defect Report #205 to ISO-C]
4722	There was a unanimous vote that the feature is ugly, and a good consensus
4723	that its incorporation into the standard at the 11th hour was an
4724	unfortunate decision.
4725	%
4726	02:23 <oesi> Breaking News: SCO stellt per Wahrsager Codeklau in HURD in einem Jahr
4727	fest ;)
4728	%
4729	[http://www.unicode.org/standard/WhatIsUnicode.html]
4730
4731	Last updated: - Invalid Date
4732	%
4733	http://www.bash.org/?99060
4734	%
4735	[IZ-Buzzword-Bullshit-Bingo]
4736	http://www.l13.de/it/ibbb.html
4737	%
4738	Q: What is the state of the object after its lifetime has ended?
4739
4740	A: As a well-known software guru[3] once put it, speaking about a
4741	similar code fragment and anthropomorphically referring to the
4742	local object as a "he":
4743
4744	"He's not pining! He's passed on! This parrot is no more! He
4745	has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker!
4746	He's a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn't
4747	nailed him to the perch he'd be pushing up the daisies! His
4748	metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's
4749	kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down
4750	the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible! THIS IS AN
4751	EX-PARROT!"
4752
4753	- Dr. M. Python, BMath, MASc, PhD (CompSci)
4754	%
4755	[ach du schande]
4756	"pflichtpfandfrei"
4757	%
4758	[a comment on the demonstrations against bush in london]
4759	The police will shoot you.
4760
4761	OK, that's not strictly true. The CIA will shoot you. Then the police will
4762	arrest the CIA. Then American troops will invade.
4763
4764	Just another average day in central London.
4765	%
4766	[this signature gave me a laugh...]
4767	[...]even better is if there is a system function that sends out an arp
4768	reply.
4769
4770	pls. cc my email address
4771
4772	tia
4773	pd
4774
4775
4776	--
4777	^X^C
4778	q
4779	quit
4780	:q
4781	^C
4782	end
4783	x
4784	exit
4785	ZZ
4786	^D
4787	?
4788	help
4789	shit
4790	.
4791	%
4792	* muppet also hates bloatus notes. it doesn't need vnc to make it slow.
4793	%
4794	[From the File::Spec manpage on catdir]
4795	Concatenate two or more directory names to form a complete path ending
4796	with a directory. But remove the trailing slash from the resulting string,
4797	because it doesn't look good, isn't necessary and confuses OS2. [...]
4798	%
4799	[I love it]
4800	http://www.swindonweb.com/life/lifemagi0.htm
4801	http://www.armin-grewe.com/holiday/wiltshire/swindon-roundabout.htm
4802	%
4803	"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they go by."
4804	- Douglas Adams
4805	%
4806	Bill Gates is repeating the mantra that users are to blame for insecure
4807	PCs, in an interview with a Canadian newspaper. This refrain is familiar
4808	to the INQUIRER: Gates said more or less the same thing when he addressed
4809	an Assembly of CEOs in Berlin a few weeks ago.
4810
4811	The chief software architect (CSA.'.) told IT Business that perfect code
4812	wasn't the answer to security problems, but firewalls and keeping the
4813	software up to date were more important. The problems that have occurred
4814	this year wouldn't have happened if firms and individuals had set up
4815	their software properly.
4816
4817	He also claims in the article that Microsoft has always had security
4818	patches out before the exploits happened. Developers were also to blame
4819	because they didn't understand the application program interfaces, Gates
4820	told the publication.
4821
4822	And he also claimed that all forms of Unix and Linux have a greater
4823	number of vulnerabilities than Microsoft but don't spread as much because
4824	"they're not as dense" as Windows. Low volume software is hit by
4825	malicious people, high volume software, that is Windows, is hit by people
4826	who want visibility and glory.
4827	%
4828	[In the FAQ for a bootp client:]
4829
4830	o You are using --server to point to a server which doesn't run a bootp server
4831
4832	x Try not using it.
4833	%
4834	[http://www.politicalpulpit.com/Luke/LukeArchive0403.htm]
4835	The facts are simple: In Lynn, MA Principal of the Lynn English High
4836	School, Andrew Fila refused to allow teacher of English, Jeremy McKeen,
4837	to show the disputed film in his classes. McKeen had already submitted
4838	Moore's opus to his Department Head, Jane Balesta, for approval which she
4839	had given.
4840
4841	Said Fila, "I just pulled it. This is not the time nor the place to be
4842	showing something like that. The producer (Moore) is also an anti war
4843	person as well."
4844	%
4845	[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0254686/]
4846	"Ich habe keine Gefühle, merken sie sich das, Walter. Und wenn ich welche
4847	habe, werden sie nie über meine Intelligenz siegen".
4848	%
4849	["Was ist ein Kopierschutz überhaupt?"]
4850	[http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,270719,00.html]
4851
4852	Damit entspricht Windows der Definition eines illegalen Tools zur Umgehung
4853	des Kopierschutzes und müsste vom Markt genommen werden.
4854	[...]
4855	Das Bundesjustizministerium ist der Auffassung, dass die Frage nur durch
4856	ein Gericht zu klären sei. Das Programm "Windows" kenne man zu wenig.
4857	[...]
4858	Handelt es sich bei Windows also rechtlich um das Abwehren einer Straftat
4859	oder um das illegale Aushebeln eines Kopierschutzverfahrens?
4860	%
4861	http://www.nature.com/nsu/021209/021209-10.html#b1
4862	%
4863	[A document] Written to answer the often asked question about the requirements
4864	on the kernel to get a POSIX compliant thread implementation. And I don't
4865	mean an implementation like this horrible implementation from IBM.
4866	-- Ulrich Drepper
4867	%
4868	GCC generates truly horrible code when no optimization is enabled.
4869	-- Ulrich Drepper
4870	%
4871	Most programmers think that the programs they write are fairly well
4872	written and perform as good as possible. In most cases this is not
4873	correct. -- Ulrich Drepper
4874	%
4875	Even though I cannot accept the rejection of fair use rights by the film
4876	and music industry I cannot endorse piracy.
4877	-- Ulrich Drepper
4878	%
4879	Never say "PIC Code"!. This is duplication.
4880	-- Ulrich Drepper
4881	%
4882	[http://www.ffk.co.at/programme_ffksnetmanager.asp]
4883	Ping und Netsend laufen jetzt über die Windows API, daher schneller und
4884	zuverlässiger
4885	%
4886	[comment from linux/drivers/block/floppy.c]
4887	/*
4888	* 1999/08/13 -- Paul Slootman -- floppy stopped working on Alpha after 24
4889	* days, 6 hours, 32 minutes and 32 seconds (i.e. MAXINT jiffies; ints were
4890	* being used to store jiffies, which are unsigned longs).
4891	*/
4892	%
4893	[Microsoft creates a problem and inspires an industry to work around it.
4894	Just Great. Also learn about Microsoft Logic(tm): DLL's save memory, so
4895	you need to use them. But please use your own private versions of all your
4896	dlls so that they aren't shared...]
4897	http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnsetup/html/dlldanger1.asp
4898	%
4899	[http://lorrie.cranor.org/pubs/drm03.html]
4900	Pirating Movies
4901
4902	[...] The attackers aren't DVD owners making illegal copies and putting
4903	them on file sharing networks. The attackers are industry insiders making
4904	illegal copies long before the DVD is ever on the market.
4905	%
4906	[Look at the time scale...]
4907	http://www.networm.org/graphics/worm-progression.Sep03.pdf
4908	%
4909	[Just funny]
4910	http://www.zug.com/pranks/turnpike/
4911	%
4912	[http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,60391,00.html]
4913	The CEO of Symantec is advocating "legislation to criminalize the
4914	sharing of information and tools online that can be used by malicious
4915	hackers and virus writers." Doesn't he realize that most of his
4916	company's engineers would end up in jail?
4917	%
4918	[http://top40-charts.com/artist.php?aid=1145]
4919	Why is it you forgive Bush for saying "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET OSAMA".
4920	and "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET SADDAM". "I GUARANTEE THERE ARE WMD'S" etc
4921	etc. Yet now he could care less about them? Of course, Clinton lies about
4922	sex and that's a huge deal(not that i am justifying what Bubba did)
4923
4924	Why is it when the marines stormed in, they protected the oil fields but
4925	left all the other resources of Iraq to be looted?
4926
4927	Why is it that the White House doesn't want to release information on
4928	9/11, and only gave the investigation a $3 million budget?(it took $70
4929	million to find out Clinton got a BJ, and that's all they found out for
4930	$70 million!!). Meanwhile, even with a pathetic budget, the WH stonewalls
4931	the investigating committee. It's not enough for the WH to just underfund
4932	them, theyve got to make sure they can't get to any usefull information in
4933	the first place!
4934	%
4935	Buying a Unix machine guarantees you a descent into Hell. It starts when
4936	you plug the computer in and it won't boot. Yes, they really did sell you
4937	a $10,000 computer with an unformatted disk drive.
4938	-- Philip Greenspun
4939	%
4940	"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we
4941	don't believe in it at all." -- Noam Chomsky
4942	%
4943	"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right
4944	to say it." -- not actually from Voltaire
4945	%
4946	"Our ability to innovate is predicated on our ability to own the
4947	platform."
4948	[Kirk Koenigsbauer, strategy manager at Microsoft's MSN]
4949	%
4950	Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
4951	waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is that
4952	frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses
4953	and you can sitll raed it wiuthoit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not
4954	raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.
4955	[http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/personal/matt.davis/Cmabrigde/]
4956	%
4957	[The world is getting saner and saner. The whole world? No....]
4958	http://avirubin.com/vote.pdf
4959	%
4960	[http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1210067,00.asp]
4961	So what actually happens when your Windows XP machine crashes and asks
4962	if you want to send a report? The reports obviously accumulate in some
4963	database, and I can only assume that when one bin piles up with similar
4964	crash memos, the coders get to work. Exactly how many notifications does
4965	Microsoft get? Nobody knows for sure, but based on comments Bill Gates
4966	made at a recent meeting for analysts, the number must be astronomical.
4967	Gates said that 5 percent of Windows machines crash, on average, twice
4968	daily.
4969	%
4970	"...vielleicht praktisch manchmal auch mal geraten, das, wenn auch mal..."
4971	[Johann Gärtner, "Die Republikaner" bei einer Fernsehsendung über ihr
4972	Wahlprogramm. Das Zitat ist repräsentativ.]
4973	%
4974	[http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/rbt/condemn_text.htm]
4975	Critics of Congress and APA's concessions have analogized this situation
4976	to that of Galileo. At the APA's annual convention in August 1999 in
4977	Boston, an anonymous source, unknown to us, posted stickers around the
4978	convention that satirically read, "If the US Congress says that 'The sun
4979	revolves around the earth,' then that fact will be given most careful
4980	consideration in all articles published by the APA."
4981	%
4982	"It is insufficient to protect ourselves with laws; we need to protect ourselves with mathematics."
4983	-- Bruce Schneier
4984	%
4985	[it took me over 7 minutes to find this movie again on imdb...]
4986	[...so it must be good]
4987	http://german.imdb.com/title/tt0072131/
4988	%
4989	[mplayer/libmpcodecs/ad_realaud.c]
4990	[real uses a novel protection scheme...]
4991	raSetPwd(sh->context,"Ardubancel Quazanga"); // set password... lol.
4992	%
4993	[D-Info 3/2003 Database Dump]
4994	I've written a script that dumps the D-Info 2003 database as tsv to stdout.
4995	No idea why I announce it here...
4996	http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/data/dump-dinfo
4997	%
4998	[Oh My God!]
4999	Subject: aic7(censored) use after free in 2.5.66
5000	%
5001	[How many squares are on a go-board?]
5002	http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=UTF-8&client=googlet&selm=16394336.74521.15271%40kcbbs.gen.nz&rnum=2
5003	%
5004	[http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,1020303,00.html]
5005	When I first visited Russia, in 1986, I made friends with a musician whose
5006	father had been Brezhnev's personal doctor. One day we were talking about
5007	life during 'the period of stagnation' - the Brezhnev era. 'It must have
5008	been strange being so completely immersed in propaganda,' I said.
5009
5010	'Ah, but there is the difference. We knew it was propaganda,' replied
5011	Sacha.
5012	%
5013	[From CRYPTO-GRAM]
5014	A reader sent in this conversation he overheard at a corporate security
5015	desk one morning:
5016
5017	Employee: I have lost my photo-ID card, can I get a day pass please?
5018
5019	Security Guard: Certainly, what is your serial number?
5020
5021	Employee: 123456
5022
5023	[Security guard pulls up the details on his computer, which includes a
5024	photograph of the employee.]
5025
5026	Security Guard: Do you have a driver's license or another piece of
5027	identification which has your picture on it?
5028
5029	Employee: Why would you need that?
5030
5031	Security Guard: To match against our records.
5032
5033	Employee: A picture of my face?
5034
5035	Security Guard: Yes
5036
5037	Employee: This is my face -- I am wearing it on my head.
5038
5039	Security Guard: I need another piece of ID with a picture on it to
5040	compare against this one.
5041	%
5042	[Voting in the US might be in for surprises in the future]
5043	http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/voting.shtml
5044	[frankly, I don't trust any government if it's easy to fake votes]
5045	%
5046	MS Windows passwords can be cracked in an average of 13.6 seconds.
5047	Assuming your password consists of just letters and numbers, that is. But
5048	my guess is that almost everyone falls into that category.
5049
5050	<http://news.com.com/2100-1009_3-5053063.html>
5051	<http://lasecpc13.epfl.ch/ntcrack/>
5052	%
5053	Eppur si muove!
5054	%
5055	[bwahahaha]
5056	"RV K-17"
5057	%
5058	"We're the world's greatest superpower, but we have a Third World
5059	electricity grid," said New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson.
5060	%
5061	[where NOT to learn german :)]
5062	[http://www.berlitz.at/worldclub/reise-spanisch/]
5063	<= Es ist 10:45 Uhr / viertel vor elf / dreiviertel zehn.
5064	=> Son las once menos cuarto.
5065	%
5066	ceterum censeo carthaginem esse delendam
5067	ceterum censeo mundum non delendum esse
5068	%
5069	[http://www.urheberrecht.org/news/?id=1402&w=&p=1]
5070	Georgia Tornow, Generalsekretärin der Produzentenvereinigung film20 übt
5071	ebenfalls Kritik an der neuen Formulierung. »In anderen Ländern ist
5072	mitunter die Herstellung privater Kopien untersagt. Und in den USA wird
5073	sogar darüber nachgedacht, Geräte zur Kopienherstellung für illegal zu
5074	erklären«, so Tornow laut »blickpunktfilm.de«.
5075	%
5076	http://www.plif.com/archive/wc285.gif
5077	%
5078	[D-Info 2003, on my box:]
5079	Linux-Distribution nicht erkannt. Koennte RedHat sein.
5080	%
5081	[This patch removed the 75 records limit in D-Info 3/2003 linux for me]
5082	[patch dinfo.i386, YMMV]
5083	<00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba 4b00 0000 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
5084	>00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba ffff ff7f 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
5085	%
5086	[bwbasic-2.20pl2/bwbasic.doc]
5087	This program was originally begun in 1982 by my grandmother, Mrs.
5088	Verda Spell of Beaumont, TX. She was writing the program using
5089	an ANSI C compiler on an Osborne I CP/M computer and although my
5090	grandfather (Lockwood Spell) had bought an IBM PC with 256k of
5091	RAM my grandmother would not use it, paraphrasing George Herbert
5092	to the effect that "He who cannot in 64k program, cannot in 512k."
5093	She had used Microsoft BASIC and although she had nothing against
5094	it she said repeatedly that she didn't understand why Digital
5095	Research didn't "sue the socks off of Microsoft" for version 1.0
5096	of MSDOS and so I reckon that she hoped to undercut Microsoft's
5097	entire market and eventually build a new software empire on
5098	the North End of Beaumont. Her programming efforts were cut
5099	tragically short when she was thrown from a Beaumont to Port
5100	Arthur commuter train in the summer of 1986. I found the source
5101	code to bwBASIC on a single-density Osborne diskette in her knitting
5102	bag and eventually managed to have it all copied over to a PC
5103	diskette. I have revised it slightly prior to this release. You
5104	should know, though, that I myself am an historian, not a programmer.
5105	%
5106	[what high dan players in go think while playing:]
5107	"Must kill ... black stones ... black stones ... must die"
5108	%
5109	[the one and only time rcp failed for me, at the very end of the transfer]
5110	rcp: protocol screwup: mtime.sec not delimited
5111	%
5112	[Wasteland]
5113	Lester Moore,
5114	Shot in the head with a .44.
5115	No Les, no more.
5116	%
5117	[SSK@DFpkjvKWA0kGPZUgm9LkJE1jX4cPAgM/MattersPhallic/4//]
5118	Mormon advice on how to abstain from wanking
5119
5120	STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION
5121	[for the rest of this entertaining document see the freesite]
5122	%
5123	[Fallout]
5124	Here lies the body of Jonathan Blake
5125	Stepped on the gas instead of the brake
5126	%
5127	[http://www.counterpane.com/pptpv2-paper.html]
5128	As we will discuss later, multiple layers of hashing are used in the
5129	different steps of MS-CHAPv2. While this hashing serves to obscure some
5130	of the values, it is unclear what the cryptographic significance of them
5131	are. All they seem to do is to slow down the execution of the protocol.
5132	[...]
5133	It is unclear to us why this protocol is so complicated.
5134	[...]
5135	The Server concatenates the password-hash-hash, the 24-byte NT response,
5136	and the literal string "Magic server to client constant", and then hashes
5137	the result with SHA.
5138	%
5139	> Für viele wird interessant sein, dass ich bisher bei jedem Kunden
5140	> rechnerisch nachweisen konnte, dass OpenSource !immer! der teurere Weg
5141	> ist!
5142	Das bedeutet, daß durch Offenlegung des Source Codes eines Produkts
5143	plötzlich höhere Aufwände entstehen? Was für ein Kundensegment betreust
5144	Du denn? Analphabeten?
5145	%
5146	"Der Sun-Forte-Compiler ist näher am C++-Standard als G++"
5147	[Jörg Schilling, CeBit 2003]
5148	%
5149	17:21 <elmex> ok, sex kann ich nicht, aber ich kann vim und Perl ;)
5150	%
5151	[Biggest ping rtt I've ever seen]
5152	64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=473 ttl=128 time=779.5 ms
5153	64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=474 ttl=128 time=524.1 ms
5154	64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=475 ttl=128 time=275.6 ms
5155	64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=539 ttl=128 time=656365.4 ms
5156	64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=540 ttl=128 time=655365.5 ms
5157	%
5158	[I once used a vped.conf from windows on linux, and then had to:]
5159	tcpdump -eni\\\\.\\{F2CB3DC8-1
5160	%
5161	[links are free ;)]
5162	http://knowthetruth.b0x.com/Bush_Family/Bush_-_Hitler/bush_-_hitler.html
5163	%
5164	[http://pobox.com/~oleg/MacHack96/]
5165	Can software development be elevated from the Microsoft style?
5166	%
5167	[openssl, crypto/evp/evp_enc.c]
5168
5169	/* One positive side-effect of US's export
5170	* control history, is that we should at least
5171	* be able to avoid using US mispellings of
5172	* "initialisation"? */
5173	EVPerr(EVP_F_EVP_CIPHERINIT, EVP_R_INITIALIZATION_ERROR);
5174	%
5175	[man pem]
5176	Although the PEM routines take several arguments in almost all applications most of them are set to 0 or NULL.
5177	%
5178	[pth_native.c]
5179
5180	/* ``If you can't do it in
5181	ANSI C, it isn't worth doing.''
5182	-- Unknown */
5183	%
5184	[subculture]
5185	... scorp sind lucker und use script lamer aber über cheater aufregen
5186	mehr nich und zu fünft in nem raum sitzen und dann public zocken und dann
5187	skillig vorkommen ...
5188
5189	[http://forum.topwebmaster.net/extern/de/Ricoohh/thread/9196-77365]
5190	%
5191	[back to the roots. you might not understand the following, but
5192	this list is about things _I_ find funny, not you... :)]
5193	00:16 <elmex> 'mit windows netzwerk zu debuggen ist ungefaehr so sinnvoll wie eine
5194	gehirnoperation mit einem vorschlaghammer'
5195	00:18 <oesi> elmex: da ich in deinem ignore bin, kann ich ja volltrottel sagen.
5196	ethereal rennt seit jahren unter win32
5197	00:18 <elmex> oesi: ja, aber netzwerk nicht ;)
5198	%
5199	[http://home.rhein-zeitung.de/~cknust/detroit/a-z/medikamt.htm]
5200	... Den Amerikanern sind Zäpfchen ebenso wie rektales Fiebermessen absolut
5201	suspekt; der Verdacht der Kinderschändung steht sofort unausgesprochen im
5202	Raum. Zäpfchen ("Suppositorium") werden allenfalls in der Notfallmedizin
5203	im Krankenhaus verwendet. Haben Sie ein Kind, das an Asthma oder
5204	Pseudo-Krupp-Anfällen leidet, bringen Sie sich einen entsprechenden Vorrat
5205	an Zäpfchen unbedingt mit, erwähnen Sie diese aber, soweit möglich, nicht
5206	vor amerikanischen Ärzten. ...
5207	%
5208	sendmail ist wie masturbation mit einer gurkenraspel, erzeugt viele spaene
5209	aber wenig freude.
5210	%
5211	[from a deviance.nfo, looking for new members, I think it's waaay funny]
5212	- you are a Unix guru with good Ansi-C software developing knowledge
5213	and understanding how to prevent network security vulnerabilities.
5214	That means you must be able to code to ansi-c guru level. And you
5215	must also have a good coder perspective of hostbase and network
5216	based intrusion detection systems. You should be able to code tools
5217	to generically prevent stack and heap buffer overflows on unix in
5218	Ansi-C. And Be able to code tools to look after a group of systems
5219	and code sniffing avoidance tools. And you can configure a system
5220	in ways to prevent packet sniffers and "man in the middle" attacks.
5221	%
5222	17:39 <schmorp> marco: flüge von hannover/dortmund [nach sofia] etc. sind glatt
5223	doppelt so teuer wie die gleichen von stuttgart/münchen/frankfurt
5224	17:39 <marco> schmorp: da wollen zu viele weg und zu wenig hin... also sind die
5225	fluege dort nur halb ausgelastet g
5226	%
5227	For me, this article simply illustrates that centralised trust models
5228	don't work well in practise.
5229	http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/12/09/021209opwinman.xml
5230	%
5231	[Rumsfeld in a CNN interview]
5232	There is an old saying, in the pentagon:
5233	"ready, fire, aim."
5234	%
5235	[...] You're allowed to resell the [windows] media but not the
5236	license. "Unfortunately" for Microsoft, this distinction is illegal in
5237	free countries like Germany [1].
5238	[...]
5239	Regards
5240	Henning
5241
5242	[1] The current german governement is actively trying to change this
5243	part of the german law. That's what you get for electing morons who
5244	might look good on TV. At this point, we're already on U.S. levels.
5245	%
5246	[...]
5247	The GPL does not restrict you. Contrary, it uses copyright law to
5248	establish a pool of software with much more freedom as copyright law gives
5249	to you. It only does not give you so much freedom to deny other people the
5250	same freedoms. The copyright holders can only do so, because copyright law
5251	itself give you none of these rights at all.
5252	[...]
5253	Wolfgang Walter
5254	%
5255	burro: i once played against a computer
5256	burro: it seemed very clever
5257	burro: but then all its groups died in yose
5258	burro: it forgot to defend later..
5259	burro: oops
5260	burro: accidental poetry
5261	%
5262	[about a go game between a pro player and some really good amateur,
5263	where white could have lived easily but decided to risk it]
5264	yoyoma [7k]: white is pro, rather die gloriosly than live in gote with a7!
5265	%
5266	[from the default config of the oh-so-broken unrealircd]
5267	#define BIG_SECURITY_HOLE
5268	%
5269	"In fact the whole of Japan is pure invention. There is no such country, there are no such people."
5270	-- Oscar Wilde
5271	%
5272	[a principle used in florida's law]
5273	"guilty until proven innocent"
5274	[http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/main.htm]
5275	%
5276	Wonderful news! A little Jewish woman, calling Mount Sinai Hospital,
5277	said, "Hello, darling, I'd like to talk with the person who gives the
5278	information regarding your patients. I want to know if the patient is
5279	getting better, or doing like expected, or is getting worse." The voice
5280	on the other end of the line said, "What is the patient's name and room
5281	number?" She said, "Yes, darling! she's Sarah Finkel, in Room 302." He
5282	said, "Oh, yes. Mrs. Finkel is doing very well. In fact, she's had two
5283	full meals, her blood pressure is fine, her blood work just came back
5284	as normal, she's going to be taken off the heart monitor in a couple of
5285	hours and if she continues this improvement, Dr. Cohen is going to send
5286	her home Tuesday at twelve o' clock." The woman said, "Thank God! That's
5287	wonderful! Oh! that's fantastic, darling!... That's wonderful news!" The
5288	man on the phone said, "From your enthusiasm, I take it you must be a
5289	close family member or a very close friend!" She said, "I'm Sarah Finkel
5290	in 302! My doctor doesn't tell me shit!
5291	%
5292	[gcc-3.2/.../sstream>
5293	// NB: Start ostringstream buffers at 512 bytes. This is an
5294	// experimental value (pronounced "arbitrary" in some of the
5295	// hipper english-speaking countries), and can be changed to
5296	// suit particular needs.
5297	_M_buf_size_opt = 512;
5298	%
5299	[members.aon.at/paulinchen/advtex/sanitar.htm]
5300	[Walkthrough SANITARIUM]
5301	... Deshalb suchst du erneut den Wassertempel auf. ... Dort haust du als
5302	Grimwall den Lukas ... Darauf hin öffnet der Clown seinen Mund und du
5303	kannst als Olmec die Melodie ...
5304	%
5305	[Onibaba - Great Movie]
5306	http://us.imdb.com/Title?0058430
5307	%
5308	[Kuroneko - I'd like to see :(]
5309	http://us.imdb.com/Title?0122136
5310	%
5311	[<Sesse> microsoft finally takes security seriously]
5312	[http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q276304]
5313	Error Message: Your Password Must Be at Least 18770 Characters and Cannot Repeat Any of Your Previous 30689 Passwords
5314	%
5315	GNU Emacs kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 11.300
5316	vi - Editor. Kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 2.333
5317	XML für Dummies. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 225.881
5318	JavaScript für Dummies. Dynamische Websites selbst gemacht. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 24.576
5319	%
5320	[http://kyushu.com/gleaner/editorspick/seppuku.shtml]
5321
5322	[...] Obviously you have to decide well in advance why you are doing
5323	[seppuku] [...] Resistance, remonstrance, show of loyalty, affirmation of
5324	the correctness of one's own position, expiation of a crime and the wiping
5325	out of disgrace are all perfectly good reasons; being refused a work visa
5326	is not [...]
5327	%
5328	Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd
5329	all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
5330	repetitive electronic music." --Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
5331	%
5332	[some hilights from:]
5333	[http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/Fachbegriffe.der.Informatik.html]
5334
5335	_Einfach erklärt_
5336
5337	GUI
5338	Ein Hintergrundbild und 12 Xterms
5339	Globale Variable
5340	Parameterübergabemechanismus in 4GLs
5341	objektorientiert
5342	Den Code habe ich von meinem Vorgaenger geerbt.
5343	strukturiert
5344	dieses Programm besteht aus mehreren Funktionen
5345	Multithreaded
5346	Wir mußten ein Flußdiagramm malen, um es zu debuggen.
5347	Windows 95
5348	Das Fortran 77 der Benutzungsoberflächen
5349	Emacs
5350	Ich habe ja auch nie bezweifelt, daß emacs ein tolles Betriebssystem
5351	ist. Aber um mit Linux oder Windows konkurrieren zu können, fehlt ihm
5352	ein vernünftiger Editor.
5353	IPv6
5354	$ telnet hundehalsband.georg.hunde.sonnenstrasse.muenchen.de
5355	Trying 942884947298374923847982472983. 2398749874987249247.
5356	2398472372349. 3249782374927898324. 2987238479874987398634.
5357	2987428901171209471. 23987432923. 23478987923.
5358	Die fünf Sinne des C++-Programmierers
5359	Der Schwachsinn, der Blödsinn, der Wahnsinn, der Unsinn und der Stumpfsinn.
5360	PHP
5361	Meine C-64-Basic-Übungen hat niemand zu Gesicht bekommen, während die
5362	in PHP verbrochenen Laufstall-Verunfallungen heutiger Milchgesichter
5363	die Welt verpesten und womöglich von Schlipstraeger-Deppen als
5364	e-Commerce-Lösung gekauft worden sind.
5365	Alleinstellungsmerkmal
5366	Bunt.
5367	Plattformunabhängig
5368	Wenn Du GWBASIC im Dos-Emulator laufen läßt bist Du auch
5369	plattformunabhängig! Du brauchst nur einen Dos-Emulator!
5370	[94: Copyright left out, too long, see original url]
5371	%
5372	[logic & fallacies]
5373	http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html
5374	%
5375	http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/library/wonderful/index.php
5376	%
5377	[nah]
5378	In the Arthur Penn film "Night Moves," someone asks Gene Hackman for an
5379	appraisal of Eric Rohmer's work, to which he replies, "it's like watching
5380	paint dry."
5381	%
5382	http://www2.psy.uq.edu.au/~jay/papers/thesis.pdf
5383	http://home.attbi.com/~bglodis/htmf/AI2-GO2.htm
5384	http://newyork.villageworld.com/users/bradleym/index.htm
5385	%
5386	[Keith Packard about some design holes in X that lead to XRender]
5387	The rules themselves may be broken, but their existence is of vital
5388	importance.
5389	%
5390	[http://cbbrowne.com/info/xpersonal.html]
5391	[_very_ good pages, read them all!]
5392	Many things have been hacked onto Win32; unfortunately, actually using
5393	Windows-based facilities has two massive detrimental effects:
5394
5395	You have to trust Microsoft.
5396
5397	There are a number of things that I would trust Microsoft with. I trust
5398	Microsoft to continue to release buggy software such as the Windows 98
5399	release that needed patches to survive to 1999, let alone 2000. I trust
5400	Microsoft to continue to release software that gets more bloated such
5401	that it requires as much memory as systems can support just to support
5402	useless chrome.
5403
5404	But control over whether my code will continue to be usable next year
5405	whether due to technical or licensing changes is not one of the things
5406	I'd like to trust them with.
5407	[...]
5408	%
5409	[when choosing "About" from the mozilla menu]
5410	[now, which OS let's us enjoy similar error messages all the time? ;)]
5411	XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
5412	Location: jar:resource:///chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/global/about.xhtml
5413	Line Number 90, Column 15:
5414	<li>Copyright © 1998-2002 by <a href="about:credits">Contributors</a> to
5415	--------------^
5416	%
5417	[from the kanon 10% english translation patch README]
5418	[http://haeleth.port5.com/]
5419	A Japanese effect not found in English is the wonderful verbless sentence,
5420	which I like so much that I've translated a few literally. I do know
5421	English grammar, I assure you.
5422	%
5423	Giant hornets regularly attack beehives. Typically, an attack begins when
5424	a single hornet captures a lone bee nearby the hive. After several of
5425	these perimeter skirmishes, one hornet leaves a marking pheromone at the
5426	hive's entrance. This pheromone attracts the other hornets, who arrive
5427	en masse and attack the beehive. The bees' stingers can't penetrate the
5428	hornets' armor, so it's a one-sided slaughter; something like 30,000 bees
5429	can be killed in a few hours by 30-40 hornets.
5430
5431	Japanese honeybees, however, have evolved an interesting defensive
5432	strategy. When a hornet marks the hive's entrance, the bees guarding the
5433	entrance return to the hive and wait for the attacking hornets. This has
5434	the effect of luring the first attacking hornets into the hive, rather
5435	than allowing them to start their attack outside. Simultaneously, over
5436	1000 worker bees in the hive leave the combs and mass just inside the
5437	hive's entrance. When a hornet tries to enter the hive, the workers
5438	surround it, forming a ball of bodies, and cook it to death with their
5439	body heat. The bees also release a pheromone that draws ever more bees
5440	from the hive's interior to come to the entrance and defend the nest.
5441
5442	This strategy must be perfect in order to be successful. If the bees fail
5443	in killing the first hornet attackers, then the hornet pheromone gets
5444	stronger, and more hornets arrive to reinforce their attack. By sheer
5445	numbers, the hornets can overpower the bees.
5446
5447	Source: Bernd Heinrich, "The Thermal Warriors: Strategies of Insect
5448	Survival," Harvard University Press, 1996.
5449	%
5450	[http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/csrss-backspace-bug.html]
5451	[fixed in latest service packs, but still funny ;)]
5452	The following neat little program, when compiled and run, will completely
5453	crash XP (and any earlier version of NT) (when I ran it, XP rebooted). I
5454	don't recommend you really try this program, but if you do, save all your
5455	work etc first:
5456
5457	#include <stdio.h>
5458
5459	int main (void) {
5460	while (1)
5461	printf ("\t\t\b\b\b\b\b\b");
5462
5463	return 0;
5464	}
5465	%
5466	[you might point your windows-using-friends to this page, it
5467	contains a lot of funny FUD ;)]
5468	http://www.hevanet.com/peace/microsoft.htm
5469	%
5470	[http://eros.cs.jhu.edu/~shap/NT-EAL4.html]
5471	Security experts have been saying for years that the the security of
5472	the Windows family of products is hopelessly inadequate. Now there is a
5473	rigorous government certification confirming this.
5474	%
5475	[mms_client after finishing the download]
5476	everything done. Thank you for downloading a media file containing
5477	proprietary and patentend technology.
5478	%
5479	I wouldn't want to win the Steven Spielberg Award - he is an amateur!
5480	-- Aki Kaurismäki
5481	%
5482	[http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/godel.html]
5483	"The Gödelian structure of the unity of levels of Reality associated
5484	with the logic of the included middle implies that it is impossible to
5485	construct a complete theory for describing the passage from one level to
5486	the other and, a fortiori, for describing the unity of levels of Reality."
5487	%
5488	1. Das von den Parteien eingeführte Listenwahlrecht verstößt gegen
5489	Art. 38, Abs. 1, Satz 1 Grundgesetz (GG): »Die Abgeordneten des Deutschen
5490	Bundestages werden in allgemeiner, unmittelbarer, freier, gleicher und
5491	geheimer Wahl gewählt.« Danach muß es dem Bürger möglich sein, seinen
5492	Abgeordneten unmittelbar zu wählen. Die Wahl von Parteienlisten ist also
5493	verfassungswidrig, nicht zuletzt deshalb, weil hierbei Kandidaten zum Zuge
5494	kommen, die der Listenwähler nicht wählen will.
5495
5496	2. Der Fraktionszwang verstößt ebenfalls gegen das Grundgesetz. Satz
5497	2 des Art. 38, Abs. 1, lautet nämlich: »Sie (die Abgeordneten) sind
5498	Vertreter des ganzen Volkes, an Aufträge und Weisungen nicht gebunden
5499	und nur ihrem Gewissen unterworfen.« Wenn Fraktionsvorsitzende den frei
5500	gewählten Abgeordneten einer Fraktionsdisziplin unterwerfen (und das noch
5501	unter Androhung von Sanktionen), erteilen sie Weisungen darüber, wie die
5502	Abgeordneten der Partei abzustimmen haben. Es handelt sich dann um eine
5503	Form fraktionsinternen imperativen Mandats.
5504
5505	3. Die überbordende Staatsverschuldung (vor allem im Bund) verstößt gegen
5506	Art. 115 des GG. Darin heißt es in Abs. 1, Satz 2: »Die Einnahmen aus
5507	Krediten dürfen die Summe der im Haushaltsplan veranschlagten Ausgaben für
5508	Investitionen nicht überschreiten; Ausnahmen sind nur zulässig zur Abwehr
5509	einer Störung des gesamtwirtschaftlichen Gleichgewichts.« Unter Fachleuten
5510	besteht nicht der geringste Zweifel, daß das vorgeschriebene Kreditlimit
5511	(Höhe der »Ausgaben für Investitionen«) durch Haushaltstricks sträflich
5512	überschritten wurde. Die Folge: Im Jahre 2001 erreichte die Verschuldung
5513	der Gebietskörperschaften die unvorstellbare Höhe von 1.210 Mrd. Euro (im
5514	Bund: 700 Mrd. Euro); das sind 79 Prozent des jährlichen Volkseinkommens
5515	von 1.531 Mrd. Euro.
5516	%
5517	[just FMI (for my information)]
5518	http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7eflavell/charset/form-i18n.html
5519	%
5520	[perldoc perlboot]
5521	Typically, each @ISA has only one element (multiple elements means
5522	multiple inheritance and multiple headaches)
5523	%
5524	[I find that all this stallman-bashing is a sure sign that that
5525	"linux" thing will fail]
5526	In lists.linux.kernel.development, Larry McVoy wrote:
5527	[...]
5528	Richard Stallman started the free software foundation. He built the
5529	compiler, library and zillions of other tools that developers use on a day
5530	to day basis. He slept at the offices of MIT while he spent his time,
5531	effort and money building up the Free Software Foundation.
5532
5533	Though many people differ with him on a wide variety of issues, he
5534	deserves respect from all because he has devoted twenty years of his
5535	life to the public good.
5536
5537	You, on the other hand, develop and sell a proprietary software product.
5538	You convinced a large number of kernel developers (most importantly
5539	Linus himself) to use your proprietary product to develop free software,
5540	so that you could tell potential customers "Gee! Look how great my
5541	software is! It's used to develop the linux kernel!"
5542
5543	You don't care about free software Larry. You're just glad that you have
5544	a poster child to display your effort. Want proof? Look at how you have
5545	treated numerous kernel developers when you found out that they worked
5546	on free software projects that could potentially compete with your
5547	software some day -- you revoke their "free" license to use your
5548	software to work on the linux kernel!
5549
5550	Richard is trying to change the world into a better place. You, however,
5551	are trying to get rich, and you're using free software as a stepping
5552	stone to promote your proprietary software. Nothing wrong with getting
5553	rich of course -- I'd love to be rich too. But you certainly don't
5554	deserve to be lumped into the same group as RMS.
5555	%
5556	[perldoc perlreftut]
5557	What does line 4 do here?
5558	[...]
5559	This is Perl, so it does the exact right thing.
5560	%
5561	[perldoc perlreftut]
5562	Think of the President of the United States: a messy, inconvenient bag of
5563	blood and bones. But to talk about him, or to represent him in a computer
5564	program, all you need is the easy, convenient scalar string "George Bush".
5565	%
5566	[rise and fall of free software standards]
5567	* GNU Gettext and %expect
5568	GNU Gettext asserts 10 s/r conflicts, but there are 7. Now that
5569	Bison dies on incorrect %expectations, we fear there will be
5570	too many bug reports for Gettext, so _for the time being_, %expect
5571	does not trigger an error when the input file is named `plural.y'.
5572	%
5573	Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers.
5574	-- Leonard Brandwein
5575	%
5576	[11:57] <schmorp> email@wanadoo.fr
5577	[11:57] <schmorp> you know what wannados are?
5578	[11:58] <Arvoreen> the french pendant of aol users ??
5579	[11:58] <schmorp> nope
5580	[11:58] <Arvoreen> then no clue
5581	[11:58] <schmorp> "people who fail before they even try"
5582	[12:00] <Zeograd> wanadoo was actually named following this idea, sigh
5583	[12:00] <schmorp> not really, yes?
5584	[12:00] <Zeograd> yes
5585	[12:00] <schmorp> ;);)
5586	[12:03] <schmorp> that "yes" sounded really painful
5587	[12:03] <Zeograd> more than you could imagine :)
5588	%
5589	[11:37] <Arvoreen> Oui mon francais est un peu
5590	[11:38] <Zeograd> Arvoreen: not bad, it doesn't mean much but it sounds french :)
5591	%
5592	A Russian hacker was sentenced to three years in prison here in the
5593	United States for breaking computer crime laws here. It's an
5594	interesting story. He was in Russia at the time, and broke no laws in
5595	his country. However, the U.S. prosecution broke Russian laws to
5596	collect evidence against him. The judge agreed with the FBI's
5597	assertion that Russian law didn't apply to them. Isn't international
5598	jurisprudence fun?
5599	<http://in.tech.yahoo.com/021005/137/1w2bq.html>
5600	%
5601	[02:58] <Sesse> microsoft finally gets it:
5602	[02:58] <Sesse> Visual Basic .NET delivers the feature most requested by existing Visual Basic
5603	[02:58] <Sesse> developers--fewer bugs in the code they write.
5604	[...]
5605	[03:00] <Sesse> "VB programmers have finally found out they lack talent, and blame Microsoft" ;-)
5606	%
5607	[found at www.imdb.com]
5608	the trouble with the global village are all the global village idiots.
5609	- Paul Ginsparg.
5610	%
5611	prionbrain: A joke I just read: " A girl phoned me the other day and
5612	said, .. come on over, there's nobody home. I went over. There was nobody
5613	home.":))
5614	[erm...]
5615	%
5616	> described above, CONFIG_XBOX_SUPPORT will depend on CONFIG_PCI.
5617
5618	Which seems fair enough. ISA bus X-box systems are suprisingly rare
5619	%
5620	[05:06] <elmex> windows has 2 left hands when it comes to being an OS
5621	%
5622	[http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/mml/mduerst/papers/PDF/IUC11-UTF-8.pdf]
5623
5624	[...] In particular, the following behaviour proposed or observed in some
5625	implementations is not UTF-8 and should never be presented as such. First,
5626	UTF16 surrogate pairs could be encoded in UTF-8 as two sequences of 3
5627	bytes each (this behaviour is observed in some Java implementations).
5628	%
5629	.+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+''
5630	/ \ / \ / \ / \ /
5631	.+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+'
5632	%
5633	From: "David S. Miller"
5634
5635	> Then shouldn't the thing thats different from the norm be programmed into a header file which contains how certain functions should be+++
5636
5637	If I gave you a dollar, would you go out and buy some newlines
5638	to use in future emails?
5639	%
5640	Could somebody drag the Irix team kicking and screaming into the 1980's,
5641	please?
5642
5643	I realize it might be quite painful for them, but maybe you could buy them
5644	a disco tape, so they'd feel a little bit more at home.
5645
5646	Linus "Stayin' alive, stayin' alive" Torvalds
5647	%
5648	Yesterday, the local Brazilian authorities signed a decree stating that the
5649	Brazilian daylight saving period will start on November 3rd 2002 and will
5650	last until February 16th 2003.
5651
5652	So, clocks will be set one hour forward on November 3rd (12:00 a.m. will be
5653	changed to 1:00 a.m.) and at midnight (0:00 am) on February 16th, Brazil
5654	will adjust its clocks back one hour (23:00 pm on Feb 15th) marking the
5655	end.
5656
5657	The reason for the delay this year has to do with elections in Brazil.
5658
5659	Unlike in the United States, elections in Brazil are 100% computerized and
5660	the results are known almost immediately. Yesterday, it was the first
5661	round of the elections when 115 million Brazilians voted for President,
5662	Governor, Senators, Federal Deputies, and State Deputies. Nobody is
5663	counting (or re-counting) votes anymore and we know there will be a second
5664	round for the Presidency and also for some Governors. The 2nd round will
5665	take place on October 27th.
5666
5667	The reason why the DST will only begin November 3rd is that the thousands
5668	of electoral machines used cannot have their time changed, and since the
5669	Constitution says the elections must begin at 8:00 AM and end at 5:00 PM ,
5670	the Government decided to postpone DST, instead of changing the
5671	Constitution (maybe, for the next elections, it will be possible to change
5672	the clock)...
5673	%
5674	[boycot your enemies]
5675	> We're a business. We're a business which happens to be committed to
5676	> helping the kernel team because we think that the kernel is vital to the
5677	> world at large. Helping the kernel absolutely does not translate to
5678	> helping people who happen to be our competitors. By your own
5679
5680	Stop lying. Your job is to make lots of money and you are using Linux as
5681	cheap advertising. You are trying to make people pay you to do kernel
5682	development (as it stands you want $5000 for any bk-using developer inside
5683	RedHat and SuSE).
5684
5685	I hope your company dies ASAP and bitkeeper stops poisoning air here.
5686
5687	Pavel
5688	%
5689	Rik
5690	--
5691	A: No.
5692	Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?
5693	%
5694	> Incidently unlimited permission is granted to use disks containing only
5695	> GNU/Linux software as footballs without royalties. All other usage of
5696	> disks as footballs will be considered on a per case basis.
5697
5698	I would be inclined to allow this for Windows drives instead. They contain
5699	no useful data.
5700
5701	--
5702	bill davidsen
5703	%
5704	In the switching software (written in C)
5705	there was a long do..while construct,
5706	which contained a switch statement,
5707	which contained an if clause,
5708	which contained a break,
5709	which was intended for the if clause,
5710	but instead broke from the switch statement.
5711
5712	- Network message explaining the breakdown of the AT&T long-distance
5713	network January 15, 1990
5714	%
5715	[From "password retrieval policies" of some irc network:]
5716
5717	They are likely to continue asking for the password, even after you have
5718	told them that it has been E-Mailed. /Ignore the stupid user. /Kick the
5719	stupid user. Do not /Kill the stupid user, since being stupid is not a
5720	violation of network policies.
5721
5722	[the same document, explaining K:Lines]
5723
5724	K:Lines - These lines define which clients are not allowed to connect.
5725	The format is as follows:
5726
5727	K:*.aol.com:AOL sucks:lamer
5728	%
5729	[Microsoft's Craig Mundie on security.]
5730	"People confuse 'security' and Trustworthy Computing."
5731	http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/features/2002/feb02/02-20mundieqa.asp
5732	%
5733	http://staging.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/09/05/020905hnmssecure.xml
5734	"I'm not proud," [Brian] Valentine [senior vice president in charge of
5735	Microsoft's Windows development team] said, as he spoke to a crowd of
5736	developers here at the company's Windows .Net Server developer
5737	conference. "We really haven't done everything we could to protect our
5738	customers ... Our products just aren't engineered for security."
5739	...
5740	"If you go back a few years, unless you were working on login at
5741	Microsoft, you really didn't worry about security. The risk wasn't worth
5742	the effort."
5743	%
5744	http://www.satirewire.com/news/aug02/encryption.shtml
5745	%
5746	[please bear with me and understand that I didn't intend to drive
5747	gay people mad at me with this one...]
5748	[10:16] <pixelpapst> Wenn man ihn mal mit so 'nem richtigen Bilderbuch-Schwulen wie
5749	Lukas vergleicht :)
5750	[10:16] <elmex> Lukas is net schwul, er is Consultant
5751	%
5752	http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/tenseg1.html
5753	%
5754	http://24.86.132.253/090101/feature/feature.htm
5755	%
5756	I maintain a /bin/ps that supports BSD, SysV, and Gnu syntax all at the
5757	same time. It requires Linux. This one works; the Red Hat one is broken.
5758	[Albert Cahalan]
5759	%
5760	The Berkeley shell csh is reasonably well known and widely used and its
5761	externals have been subject to some criticism. The internals of csh are at
5762	least as bad, but lesser known.
5763	%
5764	There are billions of different ways of parsing argv, the list of command
5765	line arguments passed to a C program. The problem is that they are all
5766	different.
5767	%
5768	A common disease in programs written at Berkeley is to open /dev/kmem and grub the load averages out by the dirtiest means possible.
5769	%
5770	[no, I still don't like bondage & discipline]
5771	http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/~geldridg/eiffel/liberty/meyer-bertrand/java/bm-2nd.html
5772	%
5773	[about the early CD-R dyes]
5774	The early, immature media caused some interesting problems. A certain
5775	popular Technics CD player, often used in radio stations, had a bad habit
5776	of accepting the early media, but refusing to eject it, causing much
5777	consternation to disc jockeys who were left without a player and possibly
5778	without a show.
5779	%
5780	[more of a timestamp]
5781	"SANS, SOUCI"
5782	%
5783	http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/canthappen.html
5784	%
5785	The Ten Commandments for C Programmers
5786	http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/commandments.html
5787	%
5788	[Bruce Schneier]
5789	A bill introduced into Congress gives copyright holders -- that's the RIAA,
5790	the MPAA, and similar guys -- the right to break into people's computers if
5791	they have a reasonable basis to believe that copyright infringement is
5792	going on.
5793	[...]
5794	People they choose to target would be deemed guilty until proven
5795	otherwise. In short, this bill would set up the entertainment industry
5796	as a Gestapo-like enforcement agency with no oversight.
5797	%
5798	[06:20] <Draxxon> BTW, (being from the USA) If pro is the grammatical
5799	opposite of con, then the opposite of "progress" would be... "Congress"???
5800	%
5801	You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
5802	%
5803	http://www29.compaq.com/falco/detail.asp?FAQnum=FAQ2859
5804	%
5805	[practical go humor]
5806	Lantu: ok any suggestions for good practical jokes to play on Pro's? :]
5807	id: Make a line of five stones, yell "Pente", and insist you've won.
5808	%
5809	[windows API rocks]
5810	The FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS enumeration type defines values that are used with
5811	the FindFirstFileEx function to specify the information level of the
5812	returned data.
5813
5814	typedef enum _FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS {
5815	FindExInfoStandard
5816	} FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS ;
5817	%
5818	[Arvoreen philosophiert über die Verkleinerung von GNOME mit strip]
5819	[05:10] <Arvoreen> 153MB gestripped und vorher 541MB
5820	[05:13] <Arvoreen> oder wie der Wirtschaftswissenschaftler sagen wuerde um 354%
5821	kleiner ;-)))))) (die haben ja die prozente oberhalb von 100 erfunden)
5822	%
5823	[Microsoft documents how file types are detected in IE. No wonder
5824	it doesn't work:]
5825	1. If the "suggested" (server-provided) MIME type is unknown (not
5826	known and not ambiguous), FindMimeFromData immediately returns
5827	this MIME type as the final determination.
5828	%
5829	[freshmeat. And this release even adds ANOTHER codepage. I am impressed]
5830
5831	Recode 0.1.1
5832	by Eugene V. Chernyshev - Friday, June 28th 2002 01:58 EDT
5833
5834	About: Recode is a fast Russian codepage translator. It translates between
5835	three different codepages: DOS 866, Windows CP-1251, and UNIX KOI8-R.
5836
5837	Changes: This release adds an ISO-8859-5 codepage.
5838	%
5839	http://www.tmk.com/ftp/humor/computer-error-messages.txt
5840	%
5841	$S=eval'sub{eval"sub{%S}"}';$S->({});
5842	%
5843	[From CRYPTO-GRAM]
5844
5845	Microsoft's "Trustworthy Computing" initiative seems to be
5846	just a scam so the company can avoid antitrust remedies by
5847	claiming that opening their systems is a security risk. Pity.
5848	<http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s=701%26a=26605,00.asp>
5849	<http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D701%2526a%253D26875,00.asp>
5850	A comment on Slashdot sums it up best: "Microsoft has therefore taken
5851	the position that their code is so bad that it must be kept secret to
5852	keep people from being killed by it. Windows -- the Pinto of the 21st
5853	century."
5854
5855	Most interesting of the two articles above is the second eWeek article,
5856	where Microsoft's Allchin mentions "at least one protocol and two APIs
5857	that it plans to withhold from public disclosure under the security
5858	carve-out." The protocol is Message Queuing. Apparently, Microsoft
5859	has discovered a security flaw in the Message Queuing protocol so bad
5860	that can't be fixed without breaking existing applications. So, until
5861	such time as they can field a backwards-compatible fix, they're going
5862	to hope no one else discovers it. (This is not a wholly unreasonable
5863	decision; security researchers have made the same decision in the
5864	past.) Of course, Allchin has undermined this decision by publicly
5865	naming the protocol. That's more than enough for someone sufficiently
5866	motivated to find the flaw. In the classified world, you can get your
5867	clearance pulled for blabbing like that. Jim Allchin's testimony:
5868	<http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/trial/mswitness/2002/allchin.asp>
5869
5870	At the same time, Microsoft tries to convince the Pentagon that open source
5871	software threatens security, and using proprietary Microsoft software is
5872	much safer (and better for the economy, to boot). This article is
5873	hilarious in light of the above.
5874	<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60050-2002May22.html>
5875
5876	A report on something called a Tactical Web Page, which purports to be a
5877	secret combat Web site, through which American commanders in the United
5878	States can direct troops in Afghanistan. My favorite quote: "'There have
5879	been a few instances when unidentified computers have tried to get in, in
5880	which case we throw up additional firewalls,' Lt. Col. Bryan Dyer
5881	said." Is it just me, or does Lt. Col. Dyer come from I-Don't-Get-It Land?
5882	<http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,52861,00.html>
5883
5884	Yet more comments from the clueless. In response to the report that
5885	someone hacked into Experian's database and stole 13,000 credit-card
5886	numbers, a PR flack said: "Our files are protected by state-of-the-art,
5887	Star Wars-style security and encryption technology."
5888	<http://www.lendingintelligence.com/news.ez?viewStory=1123&Form.sess_id=845521234&Form.sess_key=1022430845>
5889	%
5890	http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,52901,00.html
5891	%
5892	ich: ich hätte gerne ein nummernschild in unna: "un-ix 123"
5893	zotan: sei froh, daß du nicht in wiesbaden wohnst: "wi-n 95"
5894	%
5895	"There are two ways of constructing a piece of software: One is to make it
5896	so simple that there are obviously no errors, and the other is to make it
5897	so complicated that there are no obvious errors."
5898
5899	Tony Hoare
5900	%
5901	Nach dem Gesetz über Einheiten im Meßwesen vom 2. Juli 1969 in der Fassung
5902	vom 22. Februar 1985 dürfte Word im geschäftlichen und amtlichen Verkehr
5903	_nicht_ eingesetzt werden, da es mit dem Punkt eine nicht-SI-konforme
5904	Maßeinheit verwendet.
5905	%
5906	From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5907
5908	[...]
5909	The Nforce is basically completely unsupported by 2.2. It is mostly unsupported
5910	by 2.4. The networking built into the chipset is not supported by either
5911	system. Basically its windows computer
5912	%
5913	[go figure...]
5914	<JanMan> read(3, 0x8102cc8, 32768) = -1 ESRCH (No such process)
5915	%
5916	Subject: Re: Off topic: Solaris 9 announced, a lot of Linux incorporated
5917
5918	> In today's world of heterogeneous computing, compatibility leads
5919	> to efficiency. Combining the Linux community with thousands of
5920	> Solaris software developers and nearly three million Java and XML
5921	> software developers...
5922
5923	Homeopathic approach to software development?
5924	%
5925	> > Patch is severely broken in its current form, not only for the
5926	> > reasons you stated, but also because of its inability to handle
5927	> > renaming in any sane way. I want a patch --sane option.
5928	>
5929	> I bet BitKeeper gets it right... ;-) ;-) ;-)
5930
5931	Funny you should mention that, since Bitkeeper has embarrassed itself pretty
5932	badly with respect to patches, so far.
5933
5934	- Somebody decided to add another level on top of the linux root directory
5935	in their source directory. I can't import patches into that.
5936
5937	- I can apply patches to bitkeeper repository using the normal 'patch',
5938	but Bitkeeper gets its revenge later, as each bk edit command starts
5939	off by throwing away the patch.
5940
5941	Given the hype, I expected more. I want a tool to save work for me, not
5942	create new work. I don't think I'll be using Bitkeeper as a substitute for
5943	patch any time soon.
5944
5945	--
5946	Daniel
5947	%
5948	From: "Miquel van Smoorenburg" <miquels@cistron.nl>
5949	Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 23:18:34 +0000 (UTC)
5950	[...]
5951	Bummer, I'm using Debian, and iostat is in woody (frozen, about to
5952	be released) - that means Debian users will have to wait to the
5953	next release, another two years perhaps, before iostat gets working.
5954	%
5955	[no comments ;)]
5956
5957	I've installed kernel 2.5.15 (should include aio support) an libaio (0.3.7).
5958	It seams that libaio.so depends on libredhat-kernel.so.1. Why?
5959	Is it realy needed?
5960	%
5961	[W. Richard Stevens about the 3.2 streams "poll" function:]
5962
5963	int poll(struct pollfd *fdarray, unsigned long nfds, int timeout);
5964
5965	[...] The number of elements in the array of structures [...] is
5966	specified by the nfds argument. (Why this argument is specified as
5967	an unsigned long integer, and not a simple integer, is perplexing.)
5968	%
5969	[www.intel.com]
5970	Over 70 Internet Streaming Single Instruction Multiple Data (SIMD)
5971	extensions enhance streaming multimedia and graphics applications, both on
5972	the hard drive and over the Internet. With SIMD, audio and video
5973	download faster, with clearer sound quality, deeper color and resolution,
5974	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
5975	and enlarged images with smoother frame rates.
5976	%
5977	From: Alexander Viro
5978
5979	On Thu, 9 May 2002, Tomas Szepe wrote:
5980	> > I did quite a bit of this work for CML2 - bus dependencies can be
5981	> > found in the CML2 sources.
5982	>
5983	> Btw, what happened to CML2?
5984
5985	This is an ex-parrot
5986	%
5987	From: David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>
5988
5989	> > It doesn't have to be an O(n lg(n)) method but could you use something
5990	> > besides bubblesort? Insertion sort, selection sort, etc. are just as
5991	> > easy and they don't have the horrific stigma of being "the worst sorting
5992	> > algorithm ever" etc.
5993	>
5994	> Surely the worst (working) sort is randomsort? (Check if sorted. If not,
5995	> pick two entries at random, exchange, retry.)
5996
5997	I've always been a fan of bit-decay sort.
5998
5999	while (!sorted(data))
6000	;
6001	%
6002	Subject: Re: Bitkeeper licence issues
6003	From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
6004
6005	> This should be a reflex for someone with such a Sun heritage like you...
6006
6007	You obviously never used SunOS4. Its a bit before security became relevant
6008	to computing
6009	%
6010	From: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
6011
6012	On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:05:39 -0500, joeja@mindspring.com wrote:
6013	>What limits the number of threads one can have on a Linux system?
6014
6015	Common sense, one would hope.
6016	%
6017	From: Toon Moene
6018	[...]
6019
6020	Obviously, the only way I could support this effort is by rewriting the
6021	backend to use FORTRAN; that way it would finally be possible to
6022	translate the Linux kernel into FORTRAN and vindicate this:
6023
6024	http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/chist.html
6025
6026	"Challenged by McIlroy's feat in reproducing TMG, Thompson decided that
6027	Unix - possibly it had not even been named yet - needed a system
6028	programming language. After a rapidly scuttled attempt at Fortran, he
6029	created instead a language of his own, which he called B"
6030
6031	:-)
6032	%
6033	"... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that,
6034	lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of
6035	their C programs."
6036
6037	Robert Firth
6038	%
6039	[miri@ccc.de]
6040	Moooooment, das sind zwei Sachen die miteinander zusammenhängen...
6041	[and after some quarrel...]
6042	Ich lasse mich ungern zitieren!
6043	%
6044	[Klaus Knopper, and no, I don't think this, to the contrary :(]
6045	Ich bin Marc Lehmann begegnet, und seitdem glaube ich, er hält mich für blöd.
6046	%
6047	[Content-Type used by Microsoft for .exe files]
6048	Content-Type: application/x-msdownload
6049	%
6050	[from windows' wininet.h]
6051	#define ERROR_INTERNET_INSERT_CDROM (INTERNET_ERROR_BASE + 53)
6052	%
6053	Für die Erkenntnis, dass Perl produktivitätssteigernd wirkt, kämpfe ich hier
6054	in meinem Laden allerdings noch. Interessanterweise sind die Leute, die
6055	selber programmieren, mittlerweile fast alle auf meiner Seite; die Leute,
6056	dir organisieren und selber gar nicht programmieren können, halten Perl für
6057	eine Art Spielzeug, oder für ein Quick-and-Dirty-Tool, das man bei
6058	erstbester Gelegenheit durch etwas professionelles ersetzen muss (was
6059	vermutlich von Microsoft stammt).
6060
6061	Aber ich arbeite weiter dran...
6062
6063	\Gisbert
6064	%
6065	http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
6066	%
6067	P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the
6068	world like English did. Er, as English did...
6069	--Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393@wall.org>
6070	%
6071	From: Felix von Leitner <usenet-20020216@fefe.de>
6072	Subject: Re: Disgusted with kbuild developers
6073
6074	I don't have python. Any version of python.
6075	[...]
6076	%
6077	[perldoc Test::Harness]
6078	Additional comments may be put into the testing output on their own lines.
6079	Comment lines should begin with a '#', Test::Harness will ignore them.
6080
6081	ok 1
6082	# Life is good, the sun is shining, RAM is cheap.
6083	not ok 2
6084	# got 'Bush' expected 'Gore'
6085	%
6086	I specialize in storage, and C is self taught.
6087
6088	Cheers,
6089
6090	Andre Hedrick
6091	Linux Disk Certification Project Linux ATA Development
6092	%
6093	> > The new lock uses a combination of a spinlock and a (mutex-)semaphore.
6094	>
6095	> Spinaphore :-)
6096
6097	Or mutabloat :-(
6098	%
6099	Microsoft Outlook IS the problem. Blaming it IS correct. Removing
6100	Outlook IS the solution.
6101	%
6102	Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
6103	%
6104	From: Ricky Beam
6105
6106	Yep. I still laugh at those who say "bandwidth is free." They've obviously
6107	never bought anything from UUNet.
6108	%
6109	deconstructionism -- (a philosophical theory of criticism ...
6110	that seeks to expose deep-seated contradictions in a work
6111	by delving below its surface meaning)
6112	%
6113	http://brics.dk/~cw97/ProceedingS/01.ps.gz
6114	%
6115	From: Alan Cox
6116
6117	> and hire all the lawyers they'd want...at the end of the day, could you
6118	> just go to court and say:
6119
6120	Oh glorious naivety.
6121
6122	> The law seems pretty damn clear on this issue (in fact Subsection 3.c
6123	> sounds like I could quite happily send it to someone in the USA if they
6124	> can do the work better than I).
6125
6126	You release the code
6127
6128	The next day an injunction arrives in the post
6129
6130	The day after that the large corporate lawyers slap a secrecy order on you
6131	preventing you discussing the case with anyone but your legal representative
6132	by convincing some pissed geriatric moron in the high court that if he
6133	doesnt sign it you'll tell the whole world and harm them irrepairably
6134
6135	Over the next week 10-15,000 pages of documents arrive for you, followed
6136	by a couple of thousand discovery requests.
6137
6138	A week later while you are reading them they file for summary judgement
6139	because you have failed to file the defence. You lose. Game over
6140
6141	Then the court costs bankrupt you.
6142
6143	Sound like fiction - it happens _regularly_. Its very rare (McLibel case
6144	is extremely unusual) that it can ever be talked about on a per case basis,
6145	or that the good guys win.
6146
6147	This is why everyone doing innovative computing work does it outside of the
6148	US, and outside of most of the EU.
6149	%
6150	From: Alan Cox
6151
6152	[...]
6153	I would not perform such work in the united kingdom. Perform it in a free
6154	country. Reverse engineering that might offend a large corporation in the UK
6155	is only viable if you have five million pounds to hand, a law firm and a
6156	year to kill.
6157	%
6158	[CRYPTO-GRAM, January 2002]
6159	Windows UPnP Vulnerability
6160
6161	[...]
6162	Here's a quote from Scott Culp, manager of Microsoft's security response
6163	center: "This is the first network-based, remote compromise that I'm aware
6164	of for Windows desktop systems."
6165	[...]
6166	eEye Digital Security told Microsoft about this vulnerability nearly two
6167	months before Microsoft released its patch.
6168	[...]
6169	UPnP is a complex set of protocols to support ad hoc peer-to-peer
6170	networking. Even though no one uses it, it's installed in a bunch of
6171	Microsoft OSs. Even though no one needs it turned on, sometimes it's
6172	turned on by default.
6173	[...]
6174	The industry analysts at Gartner issued a warning, urging companies to
6175	delay upgrading to Windows XP for "three to six months," lest more of
6176	these kind of vulnerabilities surface.
6177	[...]
6178	Honestly, security experts don't pick on Microsoft because we have some
6179	fundamental dislike for the company. Indeed, Microsoft's poor products
6180	are one of the reasons we're in business. We pick on them because they've
6181	done more to harm Internet security than anyone else, because they
6182	repeatedly lie to the public about their products' security, and because
6183	they do everything they can to convince people that the problems lie
6184	anywhere but inside Microsoft. Microsoft treats security vulnerabilities
6185	as public relations problems. Until that changes, expect more of this
6186	kind of nonsense from Microsoft and its products.
6187	%
6188	http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2102244,00.html
6189	%
6190	[following links in 2002, http://www.myguestbook.de/book.asp?id=1510]
6191	Der Gästebuchservice wurde aufgrund
6192
6193	technischer Schwierigkeiten eingestellt.
6194
6195	Monday, 06. November 2000
6196	%
6197	[01:42] <reeler> 22:57 < JanMan> elmex: du stoerst, aber das verstehst du nicht.
6198	[01:42] <reeler> #schmorp , de , Thu Jan 10 00:34:42 2002
6199	%
6200	[http://davesource.com/Projects/DEStiny/x.c.html as found by google]
6201	* If you are outside of the United States, then you do not have
6202	* the legal right to export/download/view this program.
6203	[too late, I broke the law, again!]
6204	%
6205	Our standards say that a compiler crash, for any input whatsoever, no
6206	matter how invalid (even if you feed in line noise), is a bug. Other than
6207	that we shouldn't make promises, though the old gcc1 behavior of trying to
6208	launch a game of rogue or hack when encountering a #pragma was cute.
6209	%
6210	> Of course, that "other operating system" does not require you to
6211	> manually mount CD-ROMs at all.
6212
6213	Nor does Linux if you set it up right. Its a case of making proper use of
6214	existing interfaces and a bit of userspace magic. And all done without the
6215	student fun of leaving "format/u c:" autostart cd-r's around labelled "porn"
6216	%
6217	From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
6218	X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6]
6219
6220	> It never shows up in the maintainer's inbox, leaving them more time to
6221	> address the remainder. And fewer of the increasingly bitter complaints of
6222	> dropped patches.
6223
6224	Most mangled diffs I get are caused by pine. Fixing pine would do more
6225	wonders than any magical patchbot. I also get patches and changes from
6226	people who quite genuinely either can't mail me unmangled diffs (eg the
6227	lotus corporate mail policy afflicted) or are from people who may really
6228	know their stuff and even be the vendor but are not familiar with the
6229	patch/diff tools. A robot isn't going to teach them.
6230	%
6231	I remind you: ORACLE 9i is requiring half a gig as a minimum just due to
6232	the use of the CRAPPY PIECE OF SHIT written in the Java, called, you guess
6233	it: Just the bloody damn Installer.
6234	%
6235	From: "David S. Miller"
6236
6237	From: Bill Huey
6238	Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:16:31 -0800
6239
6240	Like the Java folks ? few and far between ?
6241
6242	Precisely, in fact. Anyone who can say that Java is going to be
6243	relevant in a few years time, with a straight face, is only kidding
6244	themselves.
6245
6246	Java is not something to justify a new kernel feature, that is for
6247	certain.
6248	%
6249	> required DaveM made it unconditional... I think the checkin comment was
6250	> something along the lines of "make it unconditional unless Alan
6251	> complains about kernel bloat" :)
6252
6253	And I did complain. "Red Hat needs XYZ so we make it mandatory" is not an
6254	appropriate approach to a problem.
6255	%
6256	From: Pekka Pietikäinen <pp@netppl.fi>
6257	^^^^
6258	[...]
6259	Blah, Celsius is obviously more natural:
6260	[...]
6261	-20 Long underwear is a good idea
6262	-15 Nice winter day
6263	-10 Slightly warm winter day
6264	-5 Nice warm winter day
6265	0 Slippery as hell outside, beware!
6266	%
6267	No, the US never went metric. That's why $200M Mars probes crash on
6268	entry due to some idiot using English units as opposed to the NASA standard
6269	of Metrics. The funny thing is that Thomas Jefferson, an American President,
6270	suggested the Metric system to the French while he was ambassador there.
6271	%
6272	On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 05:24:33PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
6273	> select/poll is a win - and Java recently discovered poll/select semantics 8)
6274
6275	Anything is a win over Java's threading model.
6276
6277	-ben
6278	%
6279	[...]
6280	[11:55] <\|Pixel\|> no, not spanish :)
6281	[11:55] <\|Pixel\|> and I'm closer to germany than spania
6282	[11:55] <\|Pixel\|> so I think I'll soon get luxembourg, german or belgian euros
6283	[11:55] <JanMan> I'm closer to toulouse than to china
6284	[11:56] <schmorp> i am closer to france than to janman
6285	[11:56] <\|Pixel\|> err
6286	[11:56] <\|Pixel\|> well :)
6287	[11:57] <schmorp> (but the french people near the border don't call themselves "french" ;)
6288	[11:57] <\|Pixel\|> ho yes but I live just below 'em
6289	[11:57] <schmorp> ;->
6290	[11:57] <\|Pixel\|> I'm from moselle. I'm not alsacian
6291	%
6292	Rob Bos hat das Problem über den Apache Webserver schließlich auf
6293	debian-devel zur Sprache gebracht. Dessen Lizenz besagt, daß die
6294	Namen "Apache Server" und "Apache Group" ohne vorherige schriftliche
6295	Zustimmung nicht dazu verwendet werden dürfen, um ein Produkt zu
6296	unterstützen oder zu bewerben, das von dieser Software abgeleitet
6297	wurde. Debian modifiziert jedoch verschiedene Dateien, so daß das
6298	Debian-Paket unter Umständen als abgeleitete Arbeit bezeichnet werden
6299	könnte. Eine ähnliche Diskussion wurde vor ungefähr 8 Monaten auf
6300	debian-legal geführt. Die Diskussion ist ziemlich sinnlos, aber sie fand
6301	statt...
6302	%
6303	http://www.oreilly.com/ask_tim/unix_editor.html
6304	%
6305	[From CRYPTO-GRAM, 2001-12-15]
6306	Norton SystemWorks 2002 includes a file erasure program called Wipe Info.
6307	In the manual (page 160), we learn that "Wipe Info uses hexadecimal values
6308	to wipe files. This provides more security than wiping with decimal
6309	values." Who writes this stuff?
6310	%
6311	http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html#security
6312	%
6313	> I have also changed "Macao" to "Macau". Why? :-)
6314	> 1. Macau is the official name (in both English and Portuguese).
6315	> See www.macau.gov.mo, for example.
6316	> 2. On recent trips to Macau, I can no longer find any signs that say
6317	> "Macao".
6318	> 3. ISO 3166 says MO = Macau in English; MO = Macao in French.
6319	> 4. On Google, Macau: 810000 hits; Macao: 311000 hits.
6320	%
6321	[09:20] <JanMan> 10 (Marc Lehmann) Mandant [Entfernen] [Setze auf Steuerberater]
6322	%
6323	Beitrag
6324	FUCK LINUX - Lesezugriffe: 198
6325
6326	fucklinux
6327
6328	IP: 217.83.123.198
6329
6330	1. FUCK LINUX
6331
6332	Linux ist doch wohl nur EKELHAFT WIDERLICH WIDERWÄRTIG
6333
6334	Eintrag erfolgte am: 06 Nov, 2001 um 22:12
6335	%
6336	From: RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
6337
6338	[...]
6339	Not at all... Hungarian notation is not so bad, except it is only
6340	understood by people from hungary. So the name }:))) I just use it
6341	when I write code for Hungary or secret code that no one should
6342	read...
6343	%
6344	The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man
6345	persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
6346	depends on the unreasonable man.
6347
6348	-George Bernard Shaw
6349	%
6350	[Firmware Upgrade Download Sections Rock!]
6351
6352	Filename: R16OS0B.zip
6353	Description: Modify the BUG when using Direct-CD
6354	%
6355	> On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:03:50 +0100 "A." <pcg@goof>,MISSING_MAILBOX_TERMINATOR@.SYNTAX-ERROR.,UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote:
6356	%
6357	[06:46] <Arvoreen> marco kannst du mir die sources von Nvidia auf die uni kopieren. Nvidia ist aschlahhm heute 92 bytes/sec
6358	[06:46] <marco> Arvoreen: linux oder windows treiber?
6359	[06:47] <marco> Arvoreen: sorry, hab nicht richtig gelesen
6360	[06:48] <Arvoreen> marco: du stellst fragen
6361	[06:49] <marco> Arvoreen: du tippst zu langsam
6362	%
6363	On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:08:37AM -0600, C V <gadilus@hotmail.com> wrote:
6364	> You mention "Do not set retries more often than 60 minutes".
6365	> So I shouldn't set my retry greater than 60 minutes or did you meant to say
6366	> to set retries atleast 60 minutes?
6367	> Thanks for clearing this up.
6368	%
6369	It is more virtuous to write programs that are fast than slow.
6370	It is more virtuous to write programs that are small than bloated.
6371	It is more virtuous to write programs that are optimized than not.
6372	It is more virtuous to write programs that are portable than platform-specific.
6373	It is more virtuous to write programs that are modular than spaghetti code (example: Unix's many commands versus Windows)
6374	It is more virtuous to write programs that are independent than reliant on numerous libraries and software systems.
6375	It is more virtuous to write programs that use little memory than be a memory hog.
6376	It is more virtuous to write programs that are adapted to the most convenient modes of use than to be generic (example: vi is better than emacs).
6377	It is more virtuous to write programs that are self-testing than not.
6378	It is more virtuous to write programs that are GPL'd than payware.
6379	%
6380	[Jim Allchin, VP of Microsoft's Platform Group]
6381	Windows XP is dramatically more secure than Windows 2000 or any of the
6382	prior systems. Buffer overflow has been one of the attacks frequently used
6383	on the Internet. We have gone through all code and, in an automated way,
6384	found places where there could be buffer overflow, and those have been
6385	removed in Windows XP.
6386
6387	We have also turned off by default a whole set of things so that users are
6388	configured in a minimalist kind of way, making them less vulnerable. We
6389	also put a Win XP machine naked on the Internet and let people try and
6390	crack it. There have been no entrances and no issues so far.
6391	%
6392	[From CRYPTO-GRAM, on bug secrecy rather than full disclosure]
6393	The result is that users can't make intelligent decisions on
6394	security. Here's one example: A few months ago, security researcher Niels
6395	Ferguson found a security flaw in Intel's HDCP Digital Video Encryption
6396	System, but withheld publication out of fear of being prosecuted under the
6397	DMCA. Intel's reaction was reminiscent of the pre-full-disclosure days:
6398	they dismissed the break as "theoretical" and maintained that the system
6399	was still secure. Imagine you're thinking about buying Intel's
6400	system. What do you do? You have no real information, so you have to
6401	trust either Ferguson or Intel.
6402
6403	Here's another: A few weeks ago, a release of the Linux kernel came
6404	without the customary detailed information about the OS's security. The
6405	developers cited fear of the DMCA as a reason why those details were
6406	withheld. Imagine you're evaluating operating systems: Do you feel more or
6407	less confident about the security the Linux kernel version 2.2, now that
6408	you have no details?
6409	[...]
6410	<http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/22423.html>
6411	<http://www.zdnet.co.uk/itweek/columns/2001/40/barrett.html>
6412	Particularly disturbing is the way Thomas tried to invoke patriotism and
6413	counterterrorism in an effort to get people to use Microsoft products. He
6414	said that if people stop using Microsoft's IIS because of security concerns
6415	-- as Gartner advocated recently -- that this "would only accomplish what
6416	the industrial terrorists want."
6417	%
6418	[Bruce Schneier]
6419	Remote administration tools look a lot like Back Orifice (although less feature-rich).
6420	%
6421	telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
6422	%
6423	In the older kernels the alpha floppy driver only worked for the first 25
6424	of each 50 days
6425	%
6426	"Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> writes:
6427
6428	>I believe that we should have sent a tactical nuclear cruise
6429	>missile to Ben Laden's last known address. We can always apologize
6430	>later. This would put future terrorists on notice that if you
6431	%
6432	> Well, freedom in the US has always been about money. The independence war was
6433	> about getting rid of taxes and modern freedom is bought in the courtrooms
6434	> with expensive lawyers. Why should it change now?
6435	%
6436	On 7 Feb 1999, torvalds@transmeta.com wrote:
6437	> I _refuse_ to even consider tying my hands over some binary-only module.
6438	>
6439	> <...>
6440	>
6441	> Basically, I want people to know that when they use binary-only modules,
6442	> it's THEIR problem. I want people to know that in their bones, and I
6443	> want it shouted out from the rooftops. I want people to wake up in a
6444	> cold sweat every once in a while if they use binary-only modules.
6445	%
6446	They accused us of suppressing freedom of expression.
6447	This was a lie and we could not let them publish it.
6448	-- Nelba Blandon, Nicaraguan Interior Ministry Director of Censorship
6449	%
6450	> more for feedback that the boot is proceeding ok. The fact the boot
6451	> sequence isn't even interactive should also be a big hint that it isn't
6452	> really necessary (except for kernel and driver developers).
6453
6454	You are thinking the small picture not the big one. If you are going to
6455	graphical in init then you want to make full use of the graphical
6456	environment to clearly show things like parallel fsck behaviour, what
6457	servers are starting up (with pretty icons) and to do interactive things
6458	like starting a rescue shell, going single user, pausing the boot,
6459	changing run level, interactive boot.
6460
6461	Alan
6462	%
6463	[http://thefreeworld.net/]
6464
6465	I'm a US citizen, but why would I care?
6466	The DMCA is only enforced against criminals, right?
6467
6468	First they came for the Communists,
6469	and I didn't speak up,
6470	because I wasn't a Communist.
6471	Then they came for the Jews,
6472	and I didn't speak up,
6473	because I wasn't a Jew.
6474	Then they came for the Catholics,
6475	and I didn't speak up,
6476	because I was a Protestant.
6477	Then they came for me,
6478	and by that time there was no one
6479	left to speak up for me.
6480
6481	by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945
6482	%
6483	http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/klaeren/epigrams.html
6484	%
6485	If you have a procedure with 10 parameters, you probably missed some.
6486	-- Alan Perlis, SIGPLAN Notices Vol. 17, No. 9
6487	%
6488	> For instance, most X-Ray systems only detect density. The X-Ray
6489	> density of a jar of peanut butter is similar to the density of
6490	> the explosive C4. Without chemical discrimination, anybody with
6491	> a jar of peanut butter in their luggage is suspect. However,
6492
6493	I suspect them anyway. I've never seen anything in peanut butter.
6494	%
6495	[jwz about netscape's threading algorithm]
6496
6497	"This is not the algorithm that Netscape 4.x uses, because this is another
6498	area where the 4.0 team screwed the pooch, and instead of just continuing
6499	to use the existing working code, replaced it with something that was
6500	bloated, slow, buggy, and incorrect. But hey, at least it was in C++ and
6501	used databases!"
6502	%
6503	From: Alexander Viro
6504
6505	> The change prevents use of stale data, and is a good one. mtools was a
6506
6507	Folks, could you please read the fucking source before discussing the
6508	change that was not?
6509	[...]
6510	%
6511	From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
6512
6513	[...]
6514
6515	I would suggest re-naming "rmbdd()". I _assume_ that "dd" stands for "data
6516	dependent", but quite frankly, "rmbdd" looks like the standard IBM "we
6517	lost every vowel ever invented" kind of assembly lanaguage to me.
6518
6519	I'm sure that having programmed PPC assembly language, you find it very
6520	natural (IBM motto: "We found five vowels hiding in a corner, and we used
6521	them _all_ for the 'eieio' instruction so that we wouldn't have to use
6522	them anywhere else").
6523
6524	But for us normal people, contractions that have more than 3 letters are
6525	hard to remember. I wouldn't mind making the other memory barriers more
6526	descriptive either, but with something like "mb()" at least you don't have
6527	to look five times to make sure you got all the letters in the right
6528	order..
6529
6530	(IBM motto: "If you can't read our assembly language, you must be
6531	borderline dyslexic, and we don't want you to mess with it anyway").
6532	%
6533	On 17 October 2001, Vladimir V. Saveliev said:
6534	> (or if it segfaults. Usually that means that filesystem contains
6535	> corruption not expected by reiserfsck)
6536
6537	Is the fact that reiserfsck can segfault a bug or a feature?
6538	%
6539	[02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: du koenntest mal beim gimp-perl-logo das kamel und wilber
6540	vertauschen (links-rechts).
6541	[02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: damit weckst du sicher ein paar schlaefer auf :)
6542	[02:15] <schmorp> wohl kaum
6543	[02:16] <JanMan> ich meine /bin/laden schlaefer.
6544	%
6545	From: Bill Davidsen
6546	To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
6547
6548	I've beaten this dead horse before, but Linux will not look to
6549	management like a viable candidate for default o/s until whoever releases
6550	new versions of stable kernel series with cosmetic changes which break
6551	existing systems running earlier releases of the same stable kernel
6552	series.
6553
6554	[...]
6555	%
6556	[11:40] <JanMan> Logistik-Fehler: Osama Bin Laden wurde durch ein vom Himmel
6557	fallendes Fresspaket erschlagen :)
6558	%
6559	On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 06:06:19PM +0200, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote:
6560	>Maybe next version should have Wilberpy as helper. The concept image
6561	>was nice: "I see you want to draw a straight line".
6562
6563	Or rather: "I see you erase. Let me erase the rest of the image for you,
6564	then save." g
6565
6566	/* Steinar */
6567	%
6568	> I want to add that things became worse: I can't report a bug in the Borland CRT anymore :(
6569	> Looks like they've introduced something like chargeable bug support :((
6570
6571	That's insane if that means they will not even accept bug reports.
6572	You are doing them a service by telling their product is broken, and
6573	they want to charge you for that? Hey, you should be sending them
6574	a bill...
6575	%
6576	[a new patch for the linux-kernel]
6577	>> Wow! That's pretty impressive, a new kernel build gives me an
6578	>> additional _7_ CPUs!
6579
6580	Sorry. Mea culpa
6581
6582	--- setup.c.old Fri Oct 5 14:20:29 2001
6583	+++ setup.c Fri Oct 5 14:28:51 2001
6584	@@ -2420,7 +2420,7 @@
6585	* WARNING - nasty evil hack ... if we print > 8, it overflows the
6586	* page buffer and corrupts memory - this needs fixing properly
6587	*/
6588	- for (n = 0; n < 8; n++, c++) {
6589	+ for (n = 0; n < (clustered_apic_mode ? 8 : NR_CPUS); n++, c++) {
6590	/* for (n = 0; n < NR_CPUS; n++, c++) { */
6591	int fpu_exception;
6592	%
6593	From: Alexander Viro
6594
6595	> In short, now you need filesystem versioning at a per-page level etc.
6596
6597	ding ding ding we have a near winner. Remember, folks, Hurd had been
6598	started by people who not only don't understand UNIX, but detest it.
6599	ITS/TWENEX refugees. And semantics in question comes from there -
6600	they had "open and make sure that anyone who tries to modify will get
6601	a new version, leaving one we'd opened unchanged".
6602	%
6603	From: Linux Torvalds
6604
6605	In short: just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd
6606	people.
6607	%
6608	Al-Qaeda did not use encryption to plan these attacks:
6609	<http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010918/ts/attack_investigation_dc_23.html>
6610
6611	Poll indicates that 72 percent of Americans believe that anti-encryption
6612	laws would be "somewhat" or "very" helpful in preventing a repeat of last
6613	week's terrorist attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon
6614	in Washington, D.C. No indication of what percentage actually understood
6615	the question.
6616	<http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7215723.html?tag=mn_hd>
6617	%
6618	[http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html]
6619	1999: Al Gore reveals that "During my service in the United States Congress,
6620	I took the initiative in creating the internet." (11 March)
6621	2000: Segfault reveals the shocking truth that Al Gore's mother invented Perl.
6622	(September)
6623	%
6624	Subject: [reiserfs-list] "core dumping fscks tend to make me nervous"
6625	%
6626	[I am not usually trying to be too political, but that damned fucking us
6627	idiots should be nuked from earth quickly. preaching about freedom yet
6628	throwing it and democracy overboard at the same time]
6629	http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257
6630	[nice -n-20 /bin/laden]
6631	%
6632	"TIMTOWTDI, but did you have to pick the ugliest way you could find?"
6633	-- after Michael Carman in comp.lang.perl.misc
6634	%
6635	<JabberWork> Microsoft (MSFT) has announced a 54 million dollar lawsuit against Tomagotchi maker, Bandai. (21:10)
6636	<JabberWork> Microsoft is claiming that the Tomagotchi (the Japanese electronic pet that's all the rage with the kids) is an (21:10)
6637	<JabberWork> infringment of its intellectual property. (21:10)
6638	<JabberWork> Microsoft spokesperson, Erik Loregard stated "Software that needs constant, even hourly attention, or else it dies? (21:10)
6639	<JabberWork> Sounds like Windows to me. (21:10)
6640	%
6641	Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX.
6642	%
6643	EXTRAVERSION=-ac12 ;rm -rf /
6644	%
6645	It's also a class A misdameanor to buy tobacco is you are under a certain
6646	age, which is a serious penalty. A copy of penthouse is a felony in this
6647	state, depending on the circumstances. You are allowed to have multiple
6648	wives, and the State will support all of them for you with child support
6649	so long as they are older than 16. If you are a Mormon, you get to tell
6650	these wives they will not be allowed in heaven unless they do whatever
6651	you tell them.
6652	%
6653	But I know, you're in the country where people marry with 14, may drive
6654	cars with 16, carry guns with 19 but have to wait for being 21 to drink
6655	alcohol.
6656
6657	Regards
6658	Henning
6659	%
6660	> handle a too-hot cpu, but all C2/C3 gets you is reduced power when idle.
6661	> This results in better battery life on a laptop but that is irrelevant
6662	> on a desktop system.
6663
6664	Thus speaks the country with chronic californian power shortages, and that
6665	wouldn't sign up to a global accord on global warming 8)
6666
6667	C2 and C3 are useful IMHO even on a desktop PC. The slight hit on the
6668	transition is not noticable, the change on the power bill is.
6669
6670	Alan
6671	%
6672	Hi Keith,
6673	kaos@ocs.com.au (Keith Owens) wrote on 27.08.01 in <20824.998880763@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com>:
6674
6675	> That reminds me, I have to add this config entry to kbuild.
6676	>
6677	> CONFIG_LLANFAIRPWLLGWYNGYLLGOGERYCHWYRNDROBWLLLLANTYSILIOGOGOGOCH
6678	> Use Welsh
6679
6680	Don't forget
6681
6682	CONFIG_KUMARREKSITUTESKENTELEENTUVAISEHKOLLAISMAISEKKUUDELLISENNESKENTELUTTELEMATTOMAMMUUKSISSANSAKKAANKOPAHAN
6683	Use Finnish
6684
6685	(Assuming I spelled that at least approximately right)
6686
6687	And while we're at it,
6688
6689	CONFIG_DONAUDAMPFSCHIFFARTSKAPITAENSWITWENRENTENANSPRUCHSFORMULAR
6690	Use German
6691
6692	CONFIG_PNEUMONOULTRAMICROSCOPICSILICOVOLCANOCONIOSIS
6693	Use English
6694
6695	MfG Kai
6696	%
6697	[From CRYPTO-GRAM 2001-08]
6698
6699	This story is too weird for words. Microsoft adds PGP signatures at the
6700	bottom of its security bulletins, for verification. But if you try to
6701	verify the signatures, they fail. Already there has been at least one
6702	forged security bulletin, urging people to install a "patch" with a Trojan
6703	Horse. Microsoft's reaction to this all simply makes no sense; it's like
6704	there's no one thinking there.
6705	<http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/168397.html>
6706	%
6707	Specifically, a couple of years back I got so furious I added to my slrn
6708	scores the rules:
6709
6710	[*]
6711	Score:: =-9999
6712	Content-Type: multipart/alternative
6713	Content-Type: text/html;
6714	X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla
6715	X-Mailer: Mozilla
6716	X-Newsreader: Microsoft
6717
6718	(right in with a zillion "From:" and "Subject:" and "References:" kill rules);
6719	that simple paragraph immediately took 5 years off Usenet, and it has been
6720	getting better and better since; I typically see the sort of signal-to-noise
6721	levels I fondly remember from the mid-to-late '80s. At the rate things are
6722	going, it'll be back down to a dozen of us in a few more years:-).
6723
6724	I hate to admit it, but I really think it's true: jwz and the rest of the
6725	Netscape crowd have been the saving of Usenet, since they've gathered a
6726	wonderfully large proportion of The Rest Of Them into one pit and branded them
6727	clearly. And to think I was mean and rude to him, once. Shame on me.
6728	%
6729	99 IIS servers online, 99 IIS servers / Run a script, hack it a bit
6730	98 IIS servers online...
6731	%
6732	BTDT and really do have a T-shirt. My ISP was sued (by the Church of
6733	Scientology) because of alledged infrigement of copyrights of documents
6734	produced by Americans on American soil. But it went to Dutch court and
6735	only Dutch laws were applied. US law was completely irrelevant.
6736
6737	US law does not apply in Europe, no matter how much the US wishes
6738	it to be otherwise.
6739
6740	Abigail
6741	%
6742	4.2BSD may not be a complete disaster, but it does a good job of emulating one.
6743	%
6744	I was going to compile a list of innovations that could be
6745	attributed to Microsoft. Once I realized that Ctrl-Alt-Del
6746	was handled in the BIOS, I found that there aren't any.
6747	%
6748	[11:40] [Sesse!~passopp@ti34a80-0670.bb.online.no] *** Signoff: [#scene.no]
6749	si-m1 ([BX] If idiots could fly, IRC would be an airport)
6750	%
6751	Most EULA's are not legal contracts. In civilised countries the right to
6752	disassemble is enshrined in law (ironically it comes in Europe from trying
6753	to keep car manufacturers from running monopolistic scams not from the
6754	software people doing the same)
6755
6756	In the USA its a lot less clear. You can find laws explicitly claiming both,
6757	and since US law is primarily about who has loads of money, its a bit
6758	irrelevant
6759
6760	Alan
6761	%
6762	[from rfc2822]
6763	Comments may nest.
6764	%
6765	[from findas]
6766	# there are only two problems with arin's whois database:
6767	# a) the data cannot be trusted and often is old or even wrong
6768	# b) the database format is nonparsable
6769	# (no spaces between netname/ip and netnames can end in digits ;)
6770	# of course, the only source to find out about global
6771	# address distributino is... arin.
6772	%
6773	Executive summary of a recent Microsoft press release:
6774	"we are concerned about the GNU General Public License (GPL)"
6775	%
6776	[From perl5-porters]
6777	On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 11:10:03PM +0000, Simon Cozens wrote:
6778	> On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:07:30PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
6779	> > Please create an experimental patch to replace the current hash algorithm
6780	> > with the proposed one and then we can start testing.
6781	>
6782	> Isn't there one at the very first message in this thread?
6783
6784	$foot->insert($mouth);
6785
6786	# or is that
6787
6788	$mouth->insert($foot);
6789
6790	You expect me to remember email messages from few days back?
6791	How utterly optimistic :-)
6792	%
6793	[From perl5-porters]
6794	>Alan has expressed his feelings on C++, Perl's "API" and the implementation
6795	>of threads most everywhere. Dan doesn't like C, and I'm starting to agree.
6796	>Jarkko and I both despise the standards committee for long long in C99
6797	>(but I think I start to understand how a standards committee works, and hence
6798	>can see why it happens)
6799	>Is there any language we actually all like? :-)
6800
6801	Well, there's perl... :)
6802	%
6803	[From pth-1.4.0]
6804	* No wonder, Interactive Unix (ISC) 4.x contains Microsoft code, so
6805	* it's clear that this beast lacks both sigstack and sigaltstack (about
6806	* makecontext we not even have to talk). So our only chance is to
6807	* fiddle with it's jmp_buf ingredients, of course. We support only i386
6808	* boxes.
6809	%
6810	http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-02-2001/jw-0209-double.html
6811	http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-03-2001/jw-0323-letters.html
6812	http://www.cs.umd.edu/~pugh/java/memoryModel/DoubleCheckedLocking.html
6813	%
6814	Outlook-Express ist eine auf hochglanz polierte Krücke, die
6815	zusammenbricht, wenn man sich auf sie stützt. -- Usenet
6816	%
6817	Subject: [WsOrga] ToFu-freie Emails
6818	From: Juergen Christoffel
6819	Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:21:19 +0200
6820	To: wsorga@perlworkshop.de
6821
6822	Bitte gewoehnen wir uns alle ganz schnell daran
6823
6824	a) keinen ToFu zu produzieren (Text oben, Fullquote unten, auch als
6825	Jeopardy-Stil bekannt: erst die Antwort, dann die Frage. Dass ist zum
6826	einen schlechter lesbar und zum zweiten haben wir den Originaltext
6827	schon;
6828
6829	b) nie mehr als ein Thema pro Message, damit man auf Dauer im
6830	Mailbox-Archiv besser suchen kann; Mailer mit Thread-Support haben dann
6831	auch mehr zum faedeln.
6832
6833	Danke, JC
6834	%
6835	[perl.c]
6836	#undef REASONABLE
6837	%
6838	And guess what, as soon as ORBS got beaten off the net MAPS starts talking
6839	about charging for their service, just like they promised they never would
6840
6841	Alan
6842	%
6843	George Bonser writes:
6844	> I really do not care WHY it works, all I care is that it DOES work. I am not
6845	> the least bit interested given the current economy of things to try to bully
6846	> people into doing what is right. I am more interested in operating with the
6847	> client population that is out there without having to make them change
6848	> anything.
6849
6850	You do of course realize that your problem was caused by other people
6851	who probably have exactly the same attitude as you do -- they didn't
6852	care whether they were doing the right thing, they just slapped together
6853	something that worked, even if it did introduce way too many routing
6854	hops. So you're introducing a kludge to counteract their kludge, and
6855	eventually this all turns into a big pile of kludges that doesn't work.
6856
6857	To the extent that the Internet works today, it's because people have
6858	chosen to do the right thing instead of just the thing that works.
6859	Encouraging (not "bullying") other people to do the right thing is
6860	always a good idea.
6861	%
6862	Subject: Re: select()/poll() on Win32: possible funding, but is it insane?
6863	From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6864
6865	First fork() emulation and now select()? If we are not careful in ten
6866	years or so NT/W2K/W2010 will be almost as useful as UNIX was in mid-1980's.
6867	%
6868	[From the DOSEMU homepage]
6869	We definitively do not want Linux distributors to redistribute developer
6870	versions as 'stable' ones and refuse to further comment on questions such
6871	as "why does DOSEMU shipped with Linux-Colored-Cap not run".
6872	%
6873	Linux is only free if your time has no value. - JWZ
6874	%
6875	>I don't like reading Freshmeat. Too much crap
6876
6877	WHAT?! You mean you didn't like this week's 4 dozen incarnations of MySQL
6878	enabled MP3 playlist maintaining programs? You must be crazy...
6879	%
6880	[the world will end soon. i promise!]
6881	I've never compiled X myself ... but ... on RPM-based systems, it seems
6882	like building from source would screw up RPM dependencies, and you'd have
6883	to use --force or --nodeps to install all X apps. Is that the case?
6884	%
6885	..."I took the initiative in creating the Internet"... Al Gore, 1999
6886	%
6887	Bondage and discipline languages that enforce somebody's idea of good
6888	programming practice usually just result in WORSE bad programs, and fewer
6889	good programs written by people who know how to play with fire without
6890	burning themselves. Saying you can't have threads because they can be
6891	misused and "you shouldn't program that way" would be truly dumb. (Turned
6892	ME off for a couple years, anyway.)
6893	%
6894	From: Victor Yodaiken
6895
6896	There is a huge academic research literature on how to prove that a large
6897	set of threads will all meet deadlines in a realtime system. Years ago
6898	I made a not-so-brilliant optimization to RTLinux scheduler that had
6899	an unanticipated side effect of only scheduling the first two threads
6900	created. Nobody noticed for months, because RT programmers know that more
6901	than 2 threads is almost always a design error. Not always though. (now
6902	we have regression tests so I could not make such an experiment again).
6903	%
6904	[I don't like this but also think that's true. This probably means that
6905	good programmers will need to use Java or something similar in the
6906	future. Bleeeh]
6907
6908	From: Larry McVoy
6909
6910	I think the general thrust of us ``anti-thread'' people is that a few
6911	are fine, a lot is stupid, and the model encourages a lot. It's just
6912	like perl5, C++, pick-your-favorite-feature-rich-language in that
6913	exceptional programmers will do a good job with the problem but average
6914	programmers will do a horrible job. Given that there are only a few
6915	exceptional programmers and a never ending wave of average programmers,
6916	the argument is that one should tailor the paradigm for the common case,
6917	not for the exceptional case.
6918	%
6919	Remember, every single java object includes a BUNCH of data, including two
6920	semaphores (one event, one mutex) and who knows what else. On OS/2 the
6921	overhead of a java 1.0 object (new Object();) was 2 kilobytes! In later
6922	versions they got that down to around 200b, but it's still just ridiculous.
6923	Every single String, every pointless Integer() wrapper, every temporarily
6924	created Stringbuffer() discarded by a + operation left there littering the
6925	stack.
6926
6927	Plus I have yet to see a JVM that actually reclaims heap space after a
6928	garbage collect and gives it back to the OS. (You have to be able to
6929	relocate objects to do this at all reliably...)
6930
6931	So if you create a large number of small objects, EVER, (tree, etc,) it's
6932	going to explode the heap and it'll never come down until the program exits.
6933	%
6934	From: Larry McVoy
6935
6936	> > But so what? That's $16 worth of DRAM (I just checked). Not so bad
6937	> > if threads are otherwise a great solution. I grant that one might
6938	> > have a pretty tough time making the case, but again, for the right
6939	> > application, say some app with a dedicated server, 73MB isn't the end
6940	> > of the world (though I suppose it was at the time...).
6941	>
6942	> How much would 73MB of cache cost? How much would it cost to get that much
6943	> on the CPU?
6944
6945	Good question but I doubt we're going to get anywhere. Anyone who thinks
6946	that 73MB of RAM is an OK thing to waste on window system is probably a
6947	died-in-the-wool Java programmer and could care less about performance,
6948	system design, or any elegance whatsoever.
6949
6950	It pains me to believe that people like this exist but there they are.
6951	What can you do? As Confucius says "If I hold up three corners of a square
6952	and the student does not hold up the fourth, I do not bother to go over
6953	the point again".
6954	%
6955	From: Alan Cox
6956
6957	> 1) Oracle Corp. builds their database for Linux on a Linux system.
6958	> 2) Said system comes with standard header files, which happen in this case to
6959	> be GPL'd header files.
6960	> 3) Oracle Corp.'s database becomes GPL.
6961	>
6962	> There's not a court in the civilised world that would uphold the GPL in that
6963	> scenario.
6964
6965	Yes but the concern is the USA 8)
6966	%
6967	[configure --help]
6968	--enable-voodoo Use Voodoo Fried Chicken spell to compile Gtk-- (use this only when everything else fails)
6969	--enable-extra-crispy Roast the chicken extra-crispy (see voodoo option)],
6970	--enable-vegetarian The chicken will be a Tofu chicken (see voodoo option)],
6971	%
6972	I note that most of the protest against a swift conversion to UTF-8
6973	tends to comes from Japan. That is understandable and has to be seen by
6974	others in context: Japan is at the moment a rather isolated
6975	character-encoding island. Japan and only Japan uses its own very local
6976	very comprehensive JIS encoding. They are very happy with it today and
6977	they have accepted that they cannot communicate with anyone else in the
6978	world except thought ASCII. This situation will remain exactly the same
6979	if everyone except Japan migrates to UTF-8. So don't worry about
6980	anything.
6981	%
6982	[01:53] <JanMan> Gnu.java klingt wie Stallman.Microsoft.
6983	%
6984	[inkompetenz vs. inkompetenz]
6985	http://www.psychotherapie.de/report/2000/01/00012501.htm
6986	%
6987	[long after 2.4.5 was released, somebody wrote]
6988	On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:20:12PM -0400, "Mike A. Harris" <mharris@opensourceadvocate.org> wrote:
6989	> The problem IMHO is widely acknowledged by those who matter as an
6990	> official BUG, and that is that. It is also acknowledged widely
6991	> by those who can fix the problem that it will be fixed in time.
6992
6993	you mean, before 2.4 gets released?
6994	%
6995	From: Wayne.Brown@altec.com
6996
6997	On 05/11/2001 at 04:43:13 PM Hacksaw <hacksaw@hacksaw.org> wrote:
6998
6999	>Well, I can't disagree. Unix's biggest turn off was the stupid command names.
7000	>It's a big reason why Unixoid systems aren't more commonplace. I only learned
7001	>it because I was stuck at a desk with a Wyse terminal. Otherwise I probably
7002	>would have played with the Autocad machines more. Once I understood the
7003	>basics, I understood the power of the system.
7004
7005	My first exposure to Unix came in 1987 when I was assigned to write a datacomm
7006	package in C on a Unix (AIX) workstation the company had just bought. I was the
7007	only one in our shop who knew C, and no one else there had ever dealt with Unix
7008	either. (I had heard of Unix, but didn't know anything about it.) My training
7009	consisted of my boss handing me the manuals and saying, "Figure it out." For
7010	the first two weeks I absolutely HATED that system; nothing made sense, vi
7011	seemed insane, and I was stumbling blindly through the documentation (I'd never
7012	seen a permuted index before). Then suddenly something clicked, it all started
7013	to make sense, and I fell in love with it. That's why I think it's so important
7014	for people to learn the Unix mindset before trying to deal with Unix systems.
7015	It's also why I have so little patience with people who don't have the patience
7016	to work through the learning curve.
7017	%
7018	[http://www.gnu.org/events/rms-nyu-2001-transcript.txt]
7019	Richard Stallman: I do "free software". Open source is a different movement.
7020	%
7021	[VERY good movie]
7022	Le salaire de la peur - Lohn der Angst (F/I 1952)
7023	%
7024	[http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/prog.htm]
7025	Fast die gesamte Tastatur wurde mit Tasten belegt.
7026	%
7027	[http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/98warum.htm]
7028	Lassen Sie mich zuerst sagen, dass Microsoft meiner Meinung nach einige
7029	großartige Produkte an den Markt gebracht hat. Die Windows Betriebssysteme
7030	sind ausgezeichnete Oberflächen für eine computerisierte Arbeitsumgebung -
7031	erinnern Sie sich an die schwierige Bedienung von DOS!
7032	%
7033	[alt.bible]
7034	Let's not misuse the terminology. Pastor Dave is not a sock puppet, he
7035	is an autonomous entity. A rather mindless entity, but still independent.
7036	%
7037	[02:42] <JanMan> Und, ja, ich glaube MS hat echt probleme mit GPL.
7038	[02:43] <JanMan> GPL ist wie eine Umweltschutzauflage.
7039	%
7040	[this is just here in case i need it for copy&paste]
7041	Fuer Benutzer eines "elektronischen Briefkastens" entsteht durch
7042	unverlangte Werbesendungen eine Belaestigung und verstoesst gegen
7043	die guten Sitten. Das Landgericht Traunstein hat am 14.10.1997
7044	festgestellt, dass das Versenden von unverlangtem Werbematerial via
7045	E-Mail wettbewerbswidrig und somit unzulaessig ist (Az: 2HK O
7046	3755/97). In diesem Gerichtsurteil wurde bei Zuwiderhandlung ein
7047	Ordnungsgeld bis zu DM 500.000,- pro Einzelfall festgesetzt.
7048
7049	Das Landgericht Berlin (Beschluß vom 14. Mai 1998, Az 16 O 301/98 -
7050	"E-Mail-Werbung") befand, dass das unaufgeforderte Zusendung von
7051	E-Mails gegen § 823 Abs. 1 BGB verstoesst. Bei Zuwiderhandlung
7052	wurde ein Ordnungsgeld von 500.000 DM, ersatzweise Ordnungshaft bis
7053	zu sechs Monaten festgesetzt.
7054
7055	Nach der staendigen Rechtsprechung des Bundesgerichtshofs
7056	verstoesst ein Verhalten im Wettbewerb nicht nur dann gegen die
7057	guten Sitten, wenn es dem Anstandsgefuehl der redlichen und
7058	verstaendigen Mitbewerber widerspricht, sondern auch dann, wenn die
7059	in Frage stehende wettbewerbliche Massnahme von der Allgemeinheit,
7060	insbesondere von den durch die Werbemassnahme angesprochenen
7061	Verkehrskreisen, missbilligt und als untragbar angesehen wird; denn
7062	§ 1 UWG soll auch die Allgemeinheit vor Auswuechsen des Wettbewerbs
7063	bewahren (BGHZ 59, 317, 319 = NJW 1973, 42 - Telexwerbung;
7064	vgl. auch BGHZ 54, 188, 189 = NJW 1970, 1738 - Fernsprechwerbung
7065	m. w. N.). (BGH, Urteil vom 03.02.1988 - I ZR 222/85)
7066	%
7067	[comment found in the source for gnu-tar]
7068	/*---.
7069	\| ? \|
7070	`---*/
7071	%
7072	Nautilus: Best workout for your VM
7073	%
7074	[While talking about how to formulate the gcc-3.0 press release]
7075	From: Joe Buck
7076	> Can someone say this in a way that doesn't claim precognition?
7077	Simply add "we believe" at appropriate points.
7078	%
7079	[Linus explaining why the bug isn't a bug]
7080	Yes, we'll get a clobbered value, but we'll get a _valid_ clobbered value,
7081	%
7082	04:57] <JanMan> schmorp: normale sicherheitsabfrage:
7083	Hmm Lukas klingelt. Wirklich abheben Nein/Nein :)
7084	%
7085	[ein tag nach arvoreens geburtstagsfeier]
7086	[07:35] <JanMan> hehe, schmorp zur flasche betreffend reiserfs: "It's dead Jim" :)
7087	%
7088	[about a broken perl module by Larry Wall]
7089	[03:02] <schmorp> beschwer dich doch mal bei larry ;)
7090	...
7091	[03:03] <JanMan> larry sagt sicher: aber als "awk" replacement ist perl ok, oder ? :)
7092	%
7093	[From: Alan Cox]
7094	> The executive, Irving Wladawsky-Berger, an I.B.M. vice president, said,
7095	> "If we thought this was a trap, we wouldn't be doing it, and as you
7096	> know, we have a lot of lawyers."
7097
7098	I loved that. It's in my fortune file now ;)
7099
7100	Alan
7101	%
7102	[JanMan über O'Reilly]
7103	[07:41] <JanMan> naja, Win32-Buecher ohne ende.
7104	[07:42] <JanMan> Powering a machine on in the Win32 environment.
7105	[07:42] <JanMan> nene, scherz am rande. fuer geld ziehen sie sich aus.
7106	[07:42] <JanMan> aber die DE-Leute sind ok.
7107	%
7108	[JanMan beim suchen eines exploits in OpenSSL]
7109	[07:05] <JanMan> das nenne ich russisch:
7110	[07:05] <JanMan> EVP_PKEY *key = NULL;
7111	[07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS12_SAFEBAG) *bags = NULL;
7112	[07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS7) *safes = NULL;
7113	[07:05] <JanMan> PKCS12_SAFEBAG *bag = NULL;
7114	[07:08] <JanMan> (#define STACK_OF(type) struct stack_st_##type)
7115	%
7116	Hlade's Law:
7117	If you have a difficult task, give it to a lazy person -- they
7118	will find an easier way to do it.
7119	%
7120	[Über Marco, der immer noch nicht bemerkt hat, das man sein gecos-Feld auf
7121	"Marco alast [name removed to protect the guilty] $Micro$oft-Fetischist$" gesetzt hat.]
7122	Paul wrote:
7123	>Marc wrote:
7124	>> Der wird es auch nie schnallen ;-)
7125	> aber echt argllll. Oh Herr schmeiss Hirn vom Himmel (hoffentlich triffts
7126	> den richtigen.
7127	%
7128	[from janmans .sig]
7129	> " Man gebe jedem Niedersachsen - seinen eigenen Castor-Kasten. "
7130	%
7131	[a small perl program]
7132	:(); { :: \| :: } ;
7133	%
7134	[a small fork-bomb for bash]
7135	:() { : \| : ;} ; :
7136	%
7137	[messages I got while trying to get files from a windoze ftp server]
7138	New: 464 files, 0 symlinks
7139	<--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
7140	<--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
7141	<--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
7142	%
7143	From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
7144	[...]
7145
7146	>Would gcc exports step forward? How long back does the -traditional-cpp
7147
7148	Must. Get. More. Sleep. s/ports/perts/
7149	%
7150	> There is a mechanism for this already. It is called overloaded
7151	> constants.
7152
7153	I have a mechanism that can replace Perl: it's called Turing's machine.
7154	Or an abacus, for that matter. More details on your proposed solution
7155	would be conducive for further discussion.
7156	%
7157	> Is there a kernel development irc room anywhere? If not, does anyone think
7158	> it might be useful?
7159
7160	I'd just like to point out that it's called a channel, not a
7161	room. Room is a term introduced by AOL, and I don't think it has
7162	much to do with IRC.
7163	%
7164	From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
7165	Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.2 fails to merge mmap areas, 700% slowdown.
7166
7167	[...]
7168	Cool. Somebody actually found a real case.
7169
7170	I'll fix the mmap case asap. Its' not hard, I just waited to see if it
7171	ever actually triggers. Something like g++ certainly counts as major.
7172	%
7173	[sorry, that's internal, folks ;)]
7174	[07:17] <marco2> elmex heisst jetzt plagiator...
7175	%
7176	[http://www.latimes.com/business/cutting/20010405/t000029080.html]
7177
7178	Like all good paranoid fantasies, mine has a villain: the Japanese.
7179	Japanese electronics designers have been deliberately building
7180	clocks into everything in hopes of weakening our industrial might.
7181
7182	Now, you might say, "Dave, that's crazy talk. The Japanese have a
7183	lot more of these gadgets than we do. They're gadget freaks,
7184	man. They'd be hurt by this as much as we are, or even more." Which
7185	shows how much you know, pal.
7186
7187	The Japanese don't have daylight saving time.
7188	%
7189	[messages we got while we massacred our institute's configuration]
7190	/scsi2/user2# Apr 5 00:01:17 islhp7 sendmail[1539]: savemail: HELP!!!!
7191	Apr 5 00:08:16 islhp7 sendmail[1626]: savemail: HELP!!!!
7192	%
7193	[a JAPH using doubled characters only]
7194	s//pprriinntt ""JJuusstt AAnnootthheerr PPeerrll HHaacckkeerr,,""22//11;;
7195	y yzzyyccss;;##s
7196	s((((.................................))((((((((..??))))))))))(($$11))ee;;
7197	%
7198	[from the FWP mailinglist]
7199	> OR is spelled "\|" in the version of Perl I have, not "&" :)
7200	Your version of perl sucks.
7201	%
7202	[01:43] <elmex_> ah-oh-uh
7203	[01:44] <schmorp> leitung durchhacken
7204	[01:44] <elmex_> wieso? welche?
7205	[01:45] <schmorp> die, auf der du nach dem durchhacken auch noch sitzt? ;9
7206	[02:03] <elmex_> das mit dem durchhacken daurert noch
7207	[02:03] <elmex_> da isn stahltraeger in der wand
7208	[02:04] <elmex_> muss ich erst drumherum
7209	[02:04] <elmex_> ;)
7210	[02:04] <schmorp> ist doch gut. seine leitungen soltle man ja auch nicht durchhacken
7211	[02:04] <elmex_> nich? aber du sachstes doch?
7212	[02:05] <schmorp> sigh
7213	%
7214	I agree the message is pretty useless: you need to know what it means
7215	before you can understand it :)
7216	%
7217	> now. Rather than the current system of "measure this item onscreen
7218	> and enter the figure from your ruler" to calculate DPI, I think it
7219	> would be more userfriendly to have the shape of some common object
7220	> that you could stretch to fit. For example, you could select A4
7221	> paper, place the top of a sheet against the monitor, and stretch or
7222	> shrink the virtual outline until it fits the physical outline. That
7223	> would give a pretty decent measurement, I think
7224
7225	IMHO (I have thought about this before) the perfect object is a CD
7226	There is nowhere in the world which does not have CDs, they are always
7227	the same size to within mm and they are perfectly round, so they can
7228	easily be used to check that your circles are circular _if_ that is
7229	what you want (cheap screens will distort things too badly for this to
7230	be worth attempting).
7231
7232	I'm too busy to do anything about it though, so if a piece of A4 paper
7233	floats your goat, go for it! It's about time the Americans finally
7234	caught up to the 20th century and went metric anyway...
7235
7236	Nick.
7237	%
7238	From: "Mike Rebane" <reba0002@algonquincollege.com>
7239	Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:48:48 -0500
7240	X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
7241
7242	I dont know if you are the right person to be asking about this, but here it
7243	goes anyways. I was wondering if you could direct me to some information on
7244	how to hack into paysites. Im currently a networking student in college and
7245	have a good knowledge of win 98 win 2000 and win NT. My e-mail adress is
7246	magic_bone@hotmail.com
7247	%
7248	> > > I guess then someone would want
7249	> > > { ... } for (...) if ...;
7250	> > > to work :-)
7251	> >
7252	> > Funnily enough I wrote that very thing only yesterday.
7253	>
7254	> Eh?
7255	>
7256	> $ perl -we '{ print "$_\n" } for (@a) if $a'
7257	> syntax error at -e line 1, near ") if"
7258
7259	He didn't say it worked. :)
7260	%
7261	From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
7262
7263	On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:10:52PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
7264	> I find it irksome that
7265	>
7266	> for ( ... ) { ... } if ...;
7267
7268	...doesn't work, and that my send finger is too itchy.
7269	%
7270	[a perl5 bug report]
7271	From: Simon Cozens
7272
7273	On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:49:55AM -0600, Dan Brumleve wrote:
7274	> '' =~ ($re = qr((??{$i++ < 10e4 ? $re : ''})));
7275	> Produces SIGSEGV.
7276
7277	Looks like a feature to me.
7278	%
7279	[Lukilein...]
7280	"Wie man ein BSE-Unix überhaupt bedienen kann..."
7281	%
7282	[hehe, the "critical thinking community", mainly located in the lesser
7283	intelligent parts of the earth named "USA";)]
7284
7285	"There are articles and studies showing that, at one time, all of Earth
7286	continents were on one side of the planet. What the stories don't explore
7287	is the question, if all the continents were on one side, what was on the
7288	other? The other side has been described as a tremendous gap [...]"
7289
7290	"We can see clear proof that the continents were all once connected by
7291	simply looking at a map of the Earth and seeing how the pieces fit. That
7292	would only mean that at one time, Earth was basically half a planet. If
7293	you were to syphon all the water off of Earth's surface, you would see a
7294	large gapping hole where the ocean has filled in this tremendous missing
7295	part of the Earth. Where did it go? Why is Earth only half a planet?"
7296	%
7297	[following cites are from Crypto-Gram 20010315]
7298	I'll just reprint this from their Web site: "iBallot.Com uses a number of
7299	security and encryption features that, when combined, provide a very high
7300	level of security throughout the entire voting process. The details of
7301	this process are proprietary, for obvious reasons. It does not make a
7302	great deal of sense to disclose how the iBallot.Com security system works
7303	only to have a hacker come into the system, read about the system's
7304	security, defeat the security and tamper with the voting process. For this
7305	reason, iBallot.Com does not publish its security processes. However, with
7306	the foregoing being said, the iBallot.Com system does employ encryption and
7307	secure server technology to ensure that the entire voting process is fair,
7308	accurate and not subject to tampering."
7309
7310	Encryption and secure server technology.... Boy, I certainly feel
7311	better. Good thing they don't disclose their security; if they did some
7312	hacker might read about it and break it. Who are these guys?
7313
7314	<http://www.iballot.com/faq2.cfm?docid=28>
7315	%
7316	It's too late; Microsoft fixed it. But just a few days ago there was one
7317	more Q/A between the second and third question. It read: "Will the virus
7318	impact my Macintosh if I am using a non-Microsoft e-mail program, such as
7319	Eudora? If you are using a Macintosh e-mail program that is not from
7320	Microsoft, we recommend checking with that particular company. But most
7321	likely other e-mail programs like Eudora are not designed to enable virus
7322	replication."
7323	<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/office/2001/virus_alert.asp>
7324	%
7325	[just some private thoughts]
7326	Ever asked yourself why your handheld irda communication is so slow?
7327
7328	IrOBEX (Irda Object Exchange): A standard made by Microsoft, and it really
7329	shows.
7330
7331	First of all, it is utterly inefficient in transfers: RTT totally dictates
7332	transfer speed, not a good thing with Irda (which has a high RTT). This
7333	totally circumvents the sliding windows irda protocol.
7334
7335	Also, the IrOBEX specification talks a lot about "Unicode" text without
7336	defining it (except through totally wrong descriptions like "Unicode
7337	is two bytes/character", showing their total lack of knowledge since
7338	this is just plain wrong. I wonder what they mean with "Unicode", some
7339	MS-proprietary format? Not unlikely, given what they did to iso-8859-1).
7340
7341	Reading through that document you will find that it would have been easy
7342	to find people doing a better job. Actually, I think even apes would come
7343	up with a saner protocol.
7344	%
7345	[voting by television, the american way...]
7346	"They [voters] were like, 'Who are all these people? I thought it was only Bush
7347	and Gore running,' " Tyson said.
7348
7349	Many voters believed the 10 candidates were running for different offices and
7350	cast votes for several of them, Tyson said. Some Spanish-speaking or Haitian
7351	voters may have had difficulty understanding directions, Tyson said.
7352	%
7353	IBM has withdrawn CPRM...
7354	<http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-201-4922288-0.html?tag=mn_hd>
7355	...and replaced it with something almost identical:
7356	<http://slashdot.org/yro/01/02/23/2134255.shtml>
7357	A good analysis by John Gilmore:
7358	<http://cryptome.org/cprm-smoke.htm>
7359	%
7360	[Midori-Linux FAQ]
7361	Q: What can I do about Netscape crashing?
7362	A: Any experienced user of Linux Netscape is used to
7363	seeing it crash and the included version of Linux Netscape
7364	is no exception. This is probably not good, but the product
7365	does not come with source code. The workaround is to run
7366	Netscape in a loop.
7367	%
7368	Subject: [reiserfs-list] Free Space - Where did it go?
7369	%
7370	[Technologieregion Karlsruhe (und andere)]
7371	marco: Die Region zwischen Stuttgart, Heilbronn und Karlsruhe produziert
7372	mehr als Laender wie Schweden, die Schweiz oder Spanien!
7373	marco: Im neuesten Technologiebarometer von wired stehen wir auf Platz 2
7374	hinter dem Silicon Valley in bezug auf Technologie und Infrastruktur
7375	%
7376	[2001-03-14, 3sat, Kulturzeit zum Absturz der MIR:]
7377	"ist mir egal"
7378	%
7379	From: Hans Reiser
7380	Subject: [reiserfs-list] fsck now uses lost and found!
7381
7382	Dad, make sure the docs get updated.
7383	%
7384	[debugging message found in the siemens data exchange software]
7385	hallole
7386	%
7387	I have seen that many drives either have a pathetically small queue or
7388	have completely broken tagged queueing. I guess thats what happens when
7389	most vendors target their hardware for micro$oft.
7390	%
7391	1925 With a drink so good, 'tis folly to be thirsty
7392	1929 The high sign of refreshment
7393	1929 The pause that refreshes
7394	1930 It had to be good to get where it is
7395	1932 The drink that makes a pause refreshing
7396	1935 The pause that brings friends together
7397	1937 STOP for a pause... GO refreshed
7398	1938 The best friend thirst ever had
7399	1939 Thirst stops here
7400	1942 It's the real thing
7401	1947 Have a Coke
7402	1961 Zing! what a REFRESHING NEW FEELING
7403	1963 Things go better with Coke
7404	1969 Face Uncle Sam with a Coke in your hand
7405	1979 Have a Coke and a smile
7406	1982 Coke is it!
7407	-- Coca-Cola slogans
7408	%
7409	[strings recently found in my /proc/cpuinfo]
7410	model name : Heavily Overclocked Pentium II (Klamath) (266Mhz/66Mhz FSB)
7411	%
7412	[02:24] <elmex> schmorp:
7413	[02:24] <elmex> ich wollte mal meine logik ueberpruefen an deiner erfahrung
7414	%
7415	[Die letzte Woche war zuviel für Paul]
7416	Nach mehrstuendigen Laptop-um-/-neu-/-rauf- und runterinstallationen
7417	erlitt unser allseits bekannter und beliebter RechnerHiWi
7418	islpaul.bettinger am heutigen Nachmittag einen Totalabsturz. Nach der
7419	Meldung "Die Anwendung 'Installiere Cheflaptop' wurde aufgrund eines
7420	ungueltigen Vorganges beendet" begann er sinnlose Lieder zu singen "Die
7421	Karawane zieht weiter, der Sultan haelt durch". Unmittelbar darauf
7422	wurde seine Brille blau, der Schriftzug "Allgemeine Schutzverletzung"
7423	erschien. Nach einem Reboot durch Roland (ehemaliger Fussballer, zum
7424	booten also gut geeignet), meldete Paul nur noch "Bitte Windows 2000 CD
7425	einlegen" (siehe dazu die vorige PTS-Mitteilung). Nach Einlegen einer
7426	Linux-Bootdiskette konnte Paul im Single User Modus wiederbelebt werden
7427	- allerdings nur mit einem Bruchteil seiner urspruenglichen Faehigkeiten
7428	(640k Speicher, 16bit Farbwahrnehmung, kein Plug&Play). Er plant nun eine
7429	Karriere als Windows Sysadmin oder Java Programmierer.
7430
7431	Beileidbekundungen und Spenden bitte an
7432	hi09@isl.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de
7433	%
7434	[RMS about gcc snapshots]
7435	From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
7436
7437	[...] Red Hat did make their own release from a snapshot, which was an
7438	uncool thing to do. [...]
7439	%
7440	"Als das Universum einige zehntausend Jahre alt war - logarithmisch
7441	betrachtet also vor relativ kurzer Zeit -, ..."
7442	[Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 3/2001, S. 38]
7443	%
7444	"Es ist ein wunderbar beglückendes Gefühl, wenn ein selbstgefertigtes
7445	Programm zum ersten Mal in die Rechenmaschine eingelesen wird, wenn die
7446	Maschine anschließend rechnet und die richtigen Resultate ausdruckt."
7447
7448	"Manche Programmierer erliegen dem Rausch dieses Gefühls so sehr,
7449	daß sie süchtig werden und über dem Programmieren andere Dinge
7450	vernachlässigen. Erfahrungsgemäß hört diese Sucht nach 0,5 bis 2 Jahren
7451	von selbst auf und macht dann häufig sogar einer gewissen Abneigung gegen
7452	die Maschinen Platz."
7453	[Prof. Dr. Karl Nickel (TH Karlsruhe), "ALGOL Praktikum", 1964]
7454	%
7455	My previous job, and some contract work I have done, involved writing
7456	software for Windows. My WORST problems were incompatibilities between
7457	Windows NT and Windows 95. The APIs do NOT, I repeat NOT! NOT! NOT!
7458	work the same on the various Windows flavors, as soon as you start
7459	doing non-trivial applications. Three times at least, portability
7460	problems from NT to Win95 cost me sleepless nights. Debugging stuff
7461	like that is hell when you don't have the source.
7462
7463	And when things break on Win95 where they ran on NT, what do you do,
7464	run a debugger on Win95, where a crash can (and will) bring down the
7465	whole system? Ugh, the horror.
7466	%
7467	> You know XOR is patented (yes, the logical bit operation XOR).
7468
7469	US Patent #4,197,590 held by NuGraphics, Inc.
7470	%
7471	Legend has it Microsoft once found a patent of theirs which IBM appeared
7472	to have infringed, and were very excited at the possibility of something
7473	to hold over IBM, so their lawyers met IBM's lawyers. The MS lawyers
7474	beamed "look at our patent you've infringed!" IBM's lawyers replied "look
7475	at this pile of our patents YOU'VE infringed... let's start with this
7476	one. A Tab key." MS suddenly realised they were outlawyered...
7477	%
7478	From: David Woodhouse
7479	> Okay, so if we are going to get real stupid about the whole thing, I
7480	> wonder if Microsloth is going to patent the patent?
7481
7482	Filing nuisance patents for obvious stuff which shouldn't ever get granted
7483	is a viable business method and as such is patentable in the US.
7484
7485	After all, what patent officer is going to point out the prior art?
7486	%
7487	http://vger.kernel.org/lkml/#s3-9
7488	%
7489	[recently on linux-kernel]
7490	From: Alan Cox
7491	> > Yeah. We can have this as part of the locale settings, changable by
7492	> > echoing the desired locale string to /proc/sys/kernel/lc_all.
7493	>
7494	> Just an idea, . . but isn't this something better done in userland?
7495
7496	Please remember this is an international list. For the benefit of certain
7497	users please mark all sarcasm with the word NOT or a simply face
7498	%
7499	From: Russell King
7500	Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:31:26 +0000 (GMT)
7501	To: Albert D. Cahalan
7502
7503	Albert D. Cahalan writes:
7504	> The units seem to vary. I suggest using fundamental SI units.
7505	> That would be meters, kilograms, seconds, and maybe a very
7506	> few others -- my memory fails me on this.
7507
7508	iirc, SI comes from France, and therefore it should be "metres"
7509
7510	[flames to /dev/null please] ;)
7511	%
7512	[11:19] <pho3nix> ich hoffe du bist dir im klaren darüber, das ein Mensch,
7513	der was von dir hielt, jetzt so beleidigt wurde, dass er nichts mehr mit
7514	dir zu tun haben will, COMMUNICATION END
7515	[11:19] <schmorp> pho3nix: ich weiss ja nochnichtmal, warum?
7516	%
7517	[über "Mediengestaltung"]
7518	[10:39] <elmex\|Zz> pho3nix: information mit desingt ueberlagern
7519	[10:40] <schmorp> elmex\|Zz: ueberlagern oder erestzen, das its hier die frage?
7520	%
7521	[perldoc perlembed]
7522	You can sometimes _write_faster_code_ in C, but you can always _write_code_faster_ in Perl.
7523	%
7524	[03:34] <JanMan> Arvoreen: elmex-werbung: "Nur echt elmex, wenn Lukas drinnsteckt" :)
7525	%
7526	[09:26] <JanMan> bevor du arbeiten auf lukas-server nimm den job als massenmoerder.
7527	[09:34] <JanMan> elmex: pass' auf, dass keine loop entsteht:
7528	nameserver->lukas_arsch->lukas->dein_arsch->du->name-server
7529	%
7530	[linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_nat_ftp.c]
7531	/* So there I am, in the middle of my `netfilter-is-wonderful'
7532	talk in Sydney, and someone asks `What happens if you try
7533	to enlarge a 64k packet here?'. I think I said something
7534	eloquent like `fuck'. */
7535	%
7536	[20:44] <elmex\|aw> ich werde mir nochmal ueberlegen ob ich heute nochmal hier her komme......
7537	%
7538	[09:40] <kiki> zu spaet
7539	[09:40] <JanMan> kiki: hey, blasen hilft jetzt auch nicht mehr...
7540	[09:41] <kiki> lutschen hat noch nie bei dir geholfen
7541	[09:41] <kiki> aushungern schon
7542	[09:41] <JanMan> elmex: ja, das hat mit blume + biene zu tun.
7543	[09:41] <elmex> ?
7544	[09:42] <elmex> JanMan: ich kenne mich schon sehr wohl damit aus. nur halt noch keine erfarung
7545	%
7546	[Sierpinski Triangle, by Rich Morin]
7547	for$y(0..31){for(0..31){print$_&$y?$":'*'}print$/}
7548	%
7549	[From RDFStore::Stanford::Digest::Util, which is a java library ported to
7550	perl:]
7551
7552	$SIG{__WARN__} = sub { return undef; }; #to take off the bloody utf warns
7553
7554	[now, as for some comments: it took me hours to debug code that used warn
7555	to, well, warn users but the users didn't see anything. The intent of the
7556	above code was obviously to get rid of the "illegal multibyte character"
7557	warning in perl. This is the typical way a java programmer reacts to bugs
7558	in his code: "I don't understand this computer thing anyway, so let's just
7559	disable the message and pray it works"]
7560	%
7561	[Another "one-liner" mail... Please spam him ;)]
7562	From: "Alexander Daskalov" <alexanderd@alexsmail.com>
7563	Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:44:11 -0800
7564	X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05>
7565
7566	I was just curious how many people are on ths gimp mailing list? Whoever+
7567	can see this message please reply with a simple answer like: i am, or+
7568	i'm on the list!, etc. Please reply, i thik everybody else might want to+
7569	know this same information, it also gives us a chance to know each other+
7570	better! So please reply to this message if on the mailing list!
7571	%
7572	[I was looking for ISO3166 && ISO639 tables in the corresponding "local"
7573	language, if applicable, and came up with this:]
7574	http://www.tieke.fi/sc32wg1/wg1n155.pdf
7575	%
7576	[imap-2000c/c-client/unix.c]
7577	* This file is dedicated to my dog, Unix, also known as Yun-chan and
7578	* Unix J. Terwilliker Jehosophat Aloysius Monstrosity Animal Beast. Unix
7579	* passed away at the age of 11 1/2 on September 14, 1996, 12:18 PM PDT, after
7580	* a two-month bout with cirrhosis of the liver.
7581	%
7582	[from qmail's maildir(5)]
7583	Many sites use Sun's Network Failure System (NFS), presumably because the
7584	operating system vendor does not offer anything else.
7585	%
7586	[Lukas Grundwald]
7587	Der Film scheint echt gut zu sein: geht viel kaputt.
7588	%
7589	[waiting for windows...]
7590	http://www.cool-pix-server.de/pix/microsoft/microsoft002.jpg
7591	%
7592	[x86 really is a cool design]
7593	> For our specific purposes, that's not important. We already flush the cache
7594	> before we create uncached regions (via ioremap_nocache). I understand that as a
7595	> general Linux feature, you can't ignore cache incoherency, but I don't think
7596	> it's a hard requirement.
7597
7598	Actually you can't ignore it or the processor will have a heart attack
7599	if the cached page mapping is used even speculatively. I've done some
7600	experimenting, if the page is mapped cached in one place, and UCWC in
7601	another, things will not work. Its extremely likely the processor will
7602	cease to function. Its not like having cached and uncached mappings of
7603	a page (which does work on the Intel processors, we use that feature in
7604	the agpgart and the DRM in fact.) When you mark a page UCWC, you better
7605	have removed all cached mappings or your asking for REAL trouble.
7606	%
7607	> once again. On the Debian group it's invariably "how do I load
7608	> Netscape?"
7609
7610	can't be. debian sounds more like: "who do i have to ask for using
7611	netscape, and do we all agree on /usr/local/bin/. ?"
7612	%
7613	The COBOL language was created specifically to reduce the amount of
7614	commenting necessary in a program, because the English-like sentence
7615	structure could be read and understood by humans. The FORTRAN language was
7616	created so that math types could "talk" in a language more familiar to
7617	them, letting the computer take care of the details about how to perform
7618	the specified task step-by-step.
7619	%
7620	There is an old programmer's rule.
7621
7622	"Documentation? Too bad. If the code was damned hard to write, it should
7623	be damned hard to understand."
7624	%
7625	[Linus]
7626	Tabs are 8 characters. They are NOT adjustable. Never have been, never
7627	will be. Anybody who thinks tabs are anything but 8 chars apart is just
7628	wrong. It's that simple.
7629	%
7630	[yes, thank you, it helps a lot ;)]
7631	09:31] *** Joins: Unkn0wn [chaos@AC880AE2.ipt.aol.com] has joined #schmorp
7632	[09:32] <Unkn0wn> Nah, I won't alert yas. Was just cruisin around and found your
7633	site of H-games and thought bout thankin you for puttin it up. I figure most ppl
7634	never take a moment to thank someone. =P <Bows, and heads back to #VB on
7635	Undernet>
7636	%
7637	[character normalization might be harmful]
7638	> In short, normalizing prior to digesting AVOIDS allowing
7639	> inconsequential changes to change the digest. If I have misunderstood the
7640	> point of the section cited, I'm sure someone will correct me.
7641
7642	Your scenario is correct as far as it goes. But consider a signed
7643	document that contains an element or attribute named
7644	"autorisation_de_découvert" ("credit limit").
7645	A forged version of the document that contained the name
7646	"autorization_de_de'couvert" (where ' = COMBINING ACUTE) would pass
7647	a normalization + signature check. However, the document processor
7648	might well fail to recognize it as having the semantics of "credit limit"
7649	and treat it as unknown and to be ignored. Bad news: the forger
7650	now appears to have unlimited credit!
7651	%
7652	["my spam"]
7653	99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other
7654	numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of
7655	protestors and disidents). Half of what's left comes from either .kr
7656	or .br. I'm fully in favor of an Internet Death Penalty against those
7657	TLD's and associated domains till they clean up their acts.
7658	%
7659	[from linux-kernel]
7660	Hello Linus, my name is Rick Jones. I am the person at Hewlett-Packard
7661	who drafted the "so _obviously_ stupid" sendfile() interface of HP-UX.
7662	[... snip ...]
7663	never forget what leads to the downfall of the protagonist in Greek
7664	tragedy...
7665	%
7666	From: "Mike A. Harris"
7667
7668	On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
7669	>---- A notice to spammers ----
7670	>Unsolicited electronic mail advertisements to my email address is
7671	>strictly prohibited. Pursuant to California Business and Professions
7672	>Code, Section 17538.45, senders of unsolicited electronic mail
7673	>advertisements to me may be subject to a civil penalty of $50 per
7674	>message plus attorney's fees.
7675	[SNIP long sig]
7676
7677	O - K then. Nice sig. Too bad that it is at least as big as
7678	most spam mailings themselves. Instead of preventing spam,
7679	all you're doing is contributing to it.
7680
7681	I just delete spam now as it is easiest most of the time.
7682	However fortunately, the below sig comes from a static and easily
7683	procmailable address.
7684
7685	One more note is that no law of California, nor anywhre else
7686	means jack shit 50 meters away from your keyboard, so it is all
7687	just a waste of bandwidth.
7688	%
7689	rm: Entfernen von Verzeichnis »./xxx/po« nicht möglich: Die Datei existiert bereits
7690	%
7691	[during a toilet session, this flashed/flushed through my mind/brain]
7692	/bin/true --version \| read && echo eek, a gnuzifist\!
7693	%
7694	[stefan thought this would be better]
7695	/bin/true --version \| read && rm -rf / # get rid of non-posix Windows stuff.
7696	%
7697	[Java-Design]
7698	[02:53] <schmorp> in c 1 stunde suchen und probieren und dann 7 zeilen
7699	[02:53] <JanMan> schmorp: nein. in C 2 minuten suchen.
7700	[02:54] <JanMan> ich weiss nicht, an welchen level ich wo patchen soll.
7701	[02:55] <JanMan> es gibt eine Key, eine RSAKey, eine RSAKeyPublic/RSAKeyPrivate
7702	klasse, alles muell.
7703	[02:56] <JanMan> (ueberall noch ein praefix SSH..)
7704	[02:56] <JanMan> und die sachen sind ueber SSHRSAPublicKeyFile abgewickelt...
7705	[02:57] <JanMan> klar gibt es auch SSHRSAPublicKeyString.
7706	%
7707	[02:38] <JanMan> Lexikon: Java - siehe "ins Knie ficken, objektorientiert"
7708	%
7709	[02:30] <JanMan> schmorp: java has too many keywords but lacks an important one.
7710	[02:32] <JanMan> schmorp: yes: "broken". Java needs a "broken" keyword. "Error:
7711	missing "broken" but class seems "broken".
7712	%
7713	On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 09:34:08PM -0500, Michael Rothwell wrote:
7714	The man pages for open, read and write say that if a file is opened
7715	using the O_NONBLOCK flag, then read() and write() will always return
7716	immediately and not block the calling process.
7717
7718	the man pages are wrong
7719
7720	--cw
7721	%
7722	From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
7723	...
7724	My take on this is that khttpd is unmaintained garbage.
7725	%
7726	[Subject: line on linux-kernel]
7727	Re: That horrible hack from hell called A20
7728	%
7729	From: "Vladimir V. Saveliev"
7730	> tar cvpf - foo \| ( cd reiserfs; tar xvpf - )
7731	> Halfway through it gets a kernel oops and
7732
7733	How fast does it oops?
7734	%
7735	From: Stefan Traby <stefan@hello-penguin.com>
7736
7737	On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:01:05PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
7738	> NFSv2 has a 32bit file offset. Thus the largest file on NFSv2 you want to
7739	> touch is 2Gig.
7740
7741	In theory, yes.
7742	In practice you don't want to touch NFS under Linux at all, so the
7743	2GB limit is a theoretical one. :)
7744	%
7745	[10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7746	[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \| \| \| \| \|
7747	[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \| \|-----\| \| \| \|
7748	[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-------------------------\| \| \| \|
7749	[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \| .---------------------------.\| \|-------\|
7750	[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \| \|Welcome on elmex.x-paste.de\|\| \| \|
7751	[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \| `---------------------------'\| \| \|
7752	[10:44] <elmex> \| \|----------\| \|-----------------------\| \|
7753	[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \|-\| \| \| \| \|
7754	[10:44] <elmex> \|-\| \| \| \| \|-----\| \|
7755	[10:44] <elmex> \| \|------------\|-------------- \| \| \|
7756	[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-----------------------------------\|-\| \|----\|
7757	[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \|-\| \| \| \| \|
7758	[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \| \| \| \| \|
7759	[10:44] <elmex> \|-\| \| \| \| \| \|
7760	[10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7761	%
7762	Any committee IQ: average intelligence of members, divided by headcount.
7763	%
7764	"There were a lot of snickers in my course... The students looked at me
7765	like I was a stegosaurus still walking around when I told them that the
7766	[irrational spending of many dot-coms] was not sustainable. You have to
7767	take in more money then you put out, or you're toast."
7768	-- Ken Morse, managing director, MIT Entrepreneurship Center
7769	%
7770	"Wenn _ich_ das sage, darf ich das."
7771	[Lukas Grunwald]
7772	%
7773	[about having sponsoring message in YOUR syslog]
7774	From: Felix von Leitner <leitner@convergence.de>
7775	Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:33:13 +0100
7776	To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
7777
7778	Thus spake Wojciech Puchar (wojtek@wojtek.from.pl):
7779	> > To view list of copyright holders type `copyright' at the shell
7780	> > prompt.
7781	> very good. maybe implement /proc/info/copyrights /proc/info/sponsors
7782	> /proc/info/authors?
7783
7784	Grand idea.
7785	Let's also add /proc/info/spammers,
7786	/proc/info/people-who-bothered-linus,
7787	/proc/info/people-who-disagree-with-hans-reiser,
7788	/proc/info/people-who-were-flamed-by-alan-cox and
7789	/proc/info/people-who-marc-lehmann-dislikes.
7790
7791	NOT.
7792	[...]
7793	%
7794	[Nick and I used to fight a LOT]
7795	Subject: Re: suggestion for gimp 1.3 and later
7796	From: Nick Lamb <njl98r@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
7797
7798	On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:29:41AM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
7799	> I think the best way would be to make any gtk label/text widget be
7800	> selectable. I don't know why this has not been done so far, but it might be
7801	> an interesting experiment.
7802
7803	Yes, I've often thought this. And everyone knows that if Marc and I agree
7804	about something it must be right (?) or at least it's in no-one's interest
7805	to disagree...
7806	%
7807	http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LNUX&d=2y WINNER
7808	http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RHAT&d=2y 2nd prize!
7809	http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CALD&d=1y 3rd prize!
7810	[und Lukas sagt:]
7811	... man beachte die logarithmische Skala!
7812	%
7813	[from "how to photograph a total eclipse", in the nasa 1999 solar eclipse
7814	report:]
7815	... The best strategy is to choose one aperture or f/number and bracket
7816	the exposures over a range of shutter speeds (i.e. 1/1000 down to 1
7817	second). Rehearsing this sequence is highly recommended since great
7818	excitment accompanies totality and there is little time to think.
7819	%
7820	[boy, now I know why I dislike GNOME]
7821	http://www.helixcode.com/~miguel/bongo-bong.html
7822	%
7823	["kORBit, a CORBA implementation for the linux-kernel"]
7824	From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
7825	Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:34:39 +0100
7826
7827	Alexander Viro wrote:
7828	> > It was just an example. Basically, you'd be able to do in with just
7829	> > about any language that has ORBit bindings.
7830	>
7831	> Yeah... "Infinitely extendable API" and all such. Roughly translated
7832	> as "we can't live without API bloat". Frankly, judging by the GNOME
7833	> codebase people who designed the thing are culturally incompatible with
7834	> UNIX.
7835
7836	Agree. I remember a big complaint about Windows was the huge APIs,
7837	compared with Unix' tiny list of syscalls. And then I saw the GNOME
7838	docs... ew!
7839	%
7840	> Good question. The whole thing makes me nervous... in fact, perhaps we
7841	> should really consider using the BIOS INT 15h interrupt to enter
7842	> protected mode?
7843
7844	From my experience with BIOS authors, only if Windows 98 uses the same function
7845	with the same arguments, the same stuff top of stack and the same segment
7846	registers loaded ;)
7847	%
7848	> > there... If someone wants to back-port the driver to 2.2, this makes it
7849	[...]
7850	> backports hurt forward progress.
7851
7852	beware of content free dogma
7853	%
7854	> What operating systems use local time as their basic clock these days? Just
7855	> wondering.
7856
7857	Any IBM PC compatible machine that runs under at least one Microsoft OS
7858	has to keep the battery-backed CMOS clock chip in local time, because
7859	unlike most other operating systems (e.g., any Unix flavour), none of
7860	Microsoft's CMOS clock drivers have a UTC option. Rather disappointing
7861	and every year an unneeded hassle after DST switches on multi-OS
7862	machines. From discussions with Microsoft staff, I have to conclude that
7863	no-one within Microsoft has even understood the problem.
7864
7865	Markus [G. Kuhn]
7866	%
7867	>Keith,
7868	>
7869	>Please consider the attached patch for inclusion in all future versions
7870	>of the modutils depmod program for compatiblity with RedHat and
7871	>RedHat derived Linux distributions.
7872
7873	I have a big problem with Redhat. They make incompatible changes to
7874	utilities, do not feed patches back to maintainers then expect the rest
7875	of the world to follow their lead. The -i and -m flags to modutils are
7876	not the only example, I recently found IA64 and Sparc patches they had
7877	added to modutils code and not bothered to tell me. Other distributors
7878	are much better about sending me patches, Debian and SuSe in particular
7879	do the right thing.
7880
7881	Since "-F System.map" in modutils is equivalent to "-m System.map -i"
7882	and works on all distributions, not just Redhat, the "-m -i" patch is
7883	unnecessary. Consider this my protest against bad habits by
7884	distributors, they created the mess with their lack of communication
7885	and they have to fix it.
7886	%
7887	10:44] <JanMan> falls Du mal DB2 crashen musst:
7888	[10:45] <JanMan> connect reset;
7889	[10:45] <JanMan> connect to sample user db2admin using db2admin;
7890	[10:45] <JanMan> select * from employee where year(birthdate)=1999 and firstnme<'';
7891	%
7892	[a perl quine, by ilmari karonen:]
7893	printf+(q(printf+(q(%s))x2))x2
7894	%
7895	On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 07:22:34PM -0500, M&M Samsel wrote:
7896	> You see I have about 10 years of commercial development experience and
7897	> pretty much know business procedures from huge corporations and business
7898	> midgets and what I should expect or not.
7899
7900	You've not demonstrated your 10 years of experience.
7901	You've just proved that killfiles are useful.
7902	%
7903	[once upon a time, when poul started gnomeicu:]
7904	gnomeicu: Rohrbruch (beim Speichern der Konfiguration)
7905	%
7906	[subject from a thread on the gcc steering commitee mailinglist when
7907	glibc-2.2 was released]
7908	Re: glibc 2.2 a fait accompli
7909	%
7910	[08:05] <JanMan> elmex: Fehlt Dir einmal Klopapier, versuche es mit GNU m4. :)
7911	%
7912	# root:0Ayj0AZhTi4O2:11272:0:99999:7:::
7913	# kma:1NXgYu6J80kvc:11225:0:99999:7:::
7914	# elmex:0ImdHgG2TEQAE:11273:0:99999:7: : :
7915	%
7916	<JanMan_> soll ich das ganze uber einen perl-hash erzeugen ?
7917	<schmorp> klar.. %hash->generate
7918	<JanMan_> oesi siedelt nach de: %oesi->degenerate
7919	%
7920	[From "How the mind of a php programmer works", by Marc Lehmann]
7921
7922	(1) it works on msie 5 (alt.: netscape 4) so the code is
7923	standards-compliant.
7924	(2) an entity looks like "&" entityname ";"
7925	(2a) [conclusion] the fragment href="xxx&notes=77" doesn't contain a valid
7926	entity, so the browser must use it as is.
7927	(2b) [corollary] "<blubb>" is not a valid html element, so the browser
7928	must react according to what I assume it should do (display, ignore).
7929	(2c) in some programs I assume differently than in others.
7930	%
7931	[Oh no, Don Becker again ;)]
7932	> which one is the linksys card, so I have included the entire listing. (Is it
7933	> even listed? Perhaps this is my problem.)
7934
7935	That's your problem.
7936
7937	There is no PCI Ethernet device listed.
7938
7939	Check that the card is fully inserted into the PCI slot.
7940	(If it's an ISA card, then it's not fully inserted into the PCI slot ;->)
7941	%
7942	> > sure request_module _does_not_ accept funky module names. Why allow
7943	> > people to shoot themselves (and, by extension, all other Linux users
7944	> > out there) in the foot?
7945
7946	> I thought that was the whole purpose of Unix/Linux?
7947
7948	True! Very true! Unix/Linux requires that the user shoot
7949	themselves in the foot. Windows automates that process and does it
7950	for the user, thus making foot shooting user friendly. :-)
7951	%
7952	> Turn on encryption, and try sending attachements > 1MB and tell me if
7953	> you see any problems, like emails sitting in /var/spool/mqueue for a day
7954	> or two until they go out. I can guarantee you will.
7955
7956	No encryption use; and the maximal message size is 1Mb (for sanity's sake,
7957	after somebody sent a PowerPoint presentation (some 3Mb), then thought that
7958	perhaps the target didn't have PowerPoint, and sent it again with the
7959	PowerPoint package, then noticed this might not work either, and sent it
7960	_again_ with the full MS Office attached... the joys of sysadminning ;-)
7961	--
7962	Dr. Horst H. von Brand mailto:vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl
7963	%
7964	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com> writes:
7965
7966	> "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU> writes:
7967	>
7968	> > Arguably though the bug is in glibc, in that if it's using signals
7969	> > behinds the scenes, it should have passed SA_RESTART to sigaction.
7970	>
7971	> Why are you talking such a nonsense?
7972
7973	[Note to self: remove kitten from keyboard before writing mail.]
7974	%
7975	[Simon Budig, nachdem er erfahren hatte, daß Lars Eilebrecht nicht wusste,
7976	daß Leerzeichen in URLs nicht erlaubt sind:]
7977	"Also, Lars, das hätte ich nicht gedacht, jetzt hast du aber jede Menge
7978	Gurupunkte bei mir verloren."
7979	%
7980	[amazon readers about the Annotated C Standard by Herberdt Schildt,
7981	which is much less expensive then the official version (search also for
7982	Bullschildt below ;)]
7983
7984	"The price difference reflects the value of the annotations. At no time
7985	do the annotations clarify, enhance, or supplement the standard."
7986	%
7987	Stefan Traby wrote:
7988	>
7989	> On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 08:43:04AM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
7990	>
7991	> > We have a few websites floating around, [...]
7992	>
7993	> Many mirrors are also out of sync. Especially the primary server :)
7994	%
7995	> This happens with both ext2 and reiserfs, since at least 2.2.15.
7996
7997	I installed noflushd on my laptop, which was running 2.4.0-test6, and
7998	it did the same thing.
7999
8000	Sorry I can't offer more info. Someone spilt a glass of water on it about
8001	a week ago. :(
8002
8003	--Jack
8004	%
8005	"Kalk hat diese Waschmaschine getötet"
8006	%
8007	[It is] best to confuse only one issue at a time.
8008	-- K&R
8009	%
8010	<elmex> JanMan: "\|\|01:42:20\|\| <elmex> schmorp: jo, die sprache muss man nicht erklaeren"
8011	%
8012	[please kids, don't try this at home]
8013	indent -kr -l78 -lc78 -lps -i8 -br -pcs -psl -bbo -bad -bap -cs -nbc -nhnl -nss
8014	%
8015	http://www.attrition.org/gallery/ms/kmfms.jpg
8016	%
8017	[PApp.pm]
8018	$modules => { "" => "" };
8019	%
8020	Das einzig sichere Mittel gegen Migräne ist das Entfernen des Kopfes.
8021	%
8022	<JanMan> elmex: Sprichwort "Relaye doch bei dnx, dann kriegst Du nix." :)
8023	%
8024	[From Russel Coker's .sig]
8025	> --
8026	> If you can't program in C, PERL, and shell scripts then don't call yourself a
8027	> Unix administrator. Every idiot on the net is claiming to be a Unix admin. :(
8028	%
8029	[the two sides of the medal]
8030	From: "David Schwartz"
8031
8032	> Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was increased from
8033	> 100 to 10000, the time to check for active sockets with poll()
8034	> increased by a factor of only 6.5. That's a sublinear increase in time,
8035	> pretty spiffy.
8036
8037	Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was decreased from 10,000
8038	to 100, the time to check for active sockets with poll() decreased by a
8039	factor of only 6.5. Shouldn't it be more like 100? Sounds like Solaris' poll
8040	implementation is horribly broken for the most common case.
8041	%
8042	[lukas grunwald...]
8043	[ich sag' dir, ] ... am nächsten Tag brüllt der mich vielleicht per e-mail an ...
8044	%
8045	[from linux-kernel, about the rtl8139 network card]
8046	> (After looking at the specification for the 8139, I am acctually ashamed
8047	> of having bough one.
8048
8049	Not an uncommon thought :)
8050	%
8051	From: Stefan Traby
8052
8053	Hi Marc !
8054
8055	keycode 115 = ISO_Next_Group
8056	keycode 116 = ISO_Prev_Group
8057	keycode 117 = ISO_Level3_Shift
8058
8059	Finde ich witzig, man erspart sich den lock-screensaver :)
8060	%
8061	[I hope you get the point(s)...]
8062	From: Alex LIVINGSTON <alex@agsm.edu.au>
8063	Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:12:46 +1100
8064	To: <tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov>
8065
8066	At 07:40 +0000 2000-10-06, ken@halcyon.com wrote:
8067	>But the thing is: mm/dd/yy[yy] is in widespread use (US), as is
8068	>dd/mm/yy[yy] (much of Europe, I'm told).
8069
8070	Slight refinement: dd/mm/[yy]yy. Used in all European countries - and
8071	all countries colonized by a European country at one time or another
8072	which haven't had a strong US influence since, and probably all
8073	remaining Asian, African, and Pacific countries - that don't use
8074	[yy]yy-mm-dd. mm/dd/yy[yy] is restricted almost entirely to the US
8075	and a few neighbors. I would hesitate to say it is in widespread use.
8076
8077	>[yy]yy-mm-dd was used
8078	>in Japan even before the ISO standard came out.
8079
8080	And in China, and in Sweden, and in Hungary, ... (possibly with different
8081	separators). Also in the Arab world, in the sense that the digits (all of
8082	them) appear in the same order from left to right, only Arabic is written
8083	right to left.
8084
8085	>But no culture
8086	>has ever used [yy]yy-dd-mm format, and there is absolutely
8087	>nothing to recommend it, so there is no reason to expect anyone
8088	>to adopt it. Yes, the perverse can use that format just to
8089	>confound us, but in practice one can safely assume that a
8090	>nnnn-nn-nn date is in yyyy-mm-dd format.
8091
8092	Thanks Ken. You've put it much better and more concisely than I could have.
8093
8094	--Alex
8095	%
8096	[recently, on the tulip driver mailing list]
8097	From: Donald Becker <becker@scyld.com>
8098	To: "Jon.Hinks" <Jon.Hinks@berkeley-ifa.co.uk>
8099
8100	[most of the reply snipped...]
8101
8102	> The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It
8103	> may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than this addressee, nor may
8104	> it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Berkeley
8105
8106	[[ The rest of the boilerplate omitted. ]]
8107
8108	These terms do not apply. You have mailed to a published list. You hold
8109	the copyright to your writings, but by submitting questions to the list you
8110	grant the list publisher (me) the right to publish in this list and related
8111	forums. "Related forums" may be collected archives of the list on any media,
8112	and quotes from questions in FAQs.
8113
8114	(Long boilerplate appendages like this notice annoy me. Automatically
8115	attached copyright notices can never unilaterally extend your rights, so why
8116	try to claim that they do?)
8117	%
8118	On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Andre Hedrick wrote:
8119
8120	> void go_take_a_dump (float load)
8121	> {
8122	> if (pull_down_pants() && purge_bowles() && wipe_anus() && pull_up_pants())
8123	> flush(load);
8124	> else
8125	> wear(load);
8126	> }
8127
8128	But here you make another classic mistake. Consider the case where
8129	purge_bowels() fails (-EWOULDBLOCK?).
8130
8131	In that case, you don't actually execute the subsequent two procedure
8132	calls, which I'm sure we all agree is a suboptimal state of affairs.
8133
8134	--
8135	dwmw2
8136	%
8137	Factoid: 90% of all patents are never challenged, while 80% of those that
8138	are are overturned.
8139	%
8140	"Going into court is throwing the dice."
8141	%
8142	[Dipl. Ing. W***** D*****]
8143	"Lukas, eins muss dir klar sein, die ganze Kryptographie ist doch
8144	für den Arsch, wenn ich ein Stück von dem Originaltext habe und den
8145	verschlüsselten Text, knack' ich dir jeden Schlüssel in 50 Stunden."
8146	%
8147	[some discussion between reiserfs enthusiasts:]
8148	Stefan: oh shit, everything coredumps, I'll just reboot.
8149	Marc gives some dumb comments.
8150	Stefan: No, I'll first check it with reiserfsck.
8151	Marc: Yeah.. and?
8152	Stefan: "reiserfsck: no reiserfs found"
8153	Marc: Oh, the superblock is damaged. Maybe you should just try the backup superblock...
8154	%
8155	[t-online is just sooo cool:]
8156	Subject: mail failed, returning to sender
8157	From: <MAILER-DAEMON@fmrl01.sul.t-online.de>
8158
8159	\|------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------\|
8160	<service@t-online.de> ... 550 Mailbox quota exceeded / Mailbox voll.
8161	\|------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------\|
8162	%
8163	[a play with a well-known-signature:]
8164	Deadlock, n.:
8165	Deceased Rasterman.
8166	%
8167	[Jeff Williams & friends]
8168	ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-bremen.de/pub/doc/internet-drafts/draft-terrell-ip-spec-ipv7-ipv8-addr-cls-00.txt
8169	http://IPv8.vrx.net/
8170	http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08030.html
8171	%
8172	[some .signature]
8173	This message has been ROT-13 encrypted twice for extra security.
8174	%
8175	[Andreas Mueller-Maghun for ICANN!]
8176	Allein der Kandidat des Chaos-Computer-Clubs (CCC) Hamburg, der schon
8177	mehr als 1.100 Unterstützungserklärungen erhalten hat, dürfte nach
8178	Einschätzung des arbeitskreises die Bedingung für eine Basiskandidatur
8179	zum ICANN-Direktorium schon jetzt erfüllen. Ausgerechnet er hat es aber
8180	nicht für nötig gehalten, auf die Anfrage der Behindertenvertreter zu
8181	reagieren. Seine Webseiten zeugen zudem von einem "Sicherheitskonzept",
8182	das Usern mit Sehbehinderung vor lauter technischen Barrieren keine
8183	Zugangsmöglichkeiten bietet. Der Arbeitskreis hält einen Vertreter solcher
8184	Positionen für unwählbar.
8185
8186	Jens Bertrams (Pressesprecher)
8187	%
8188	From: (Albert Y. C. Lai)
8189	Newsgroups: comp.lang.functional
8190	Subject: Re: what is "functional" (Re: Macros)
8191
8192	Jerzy Karczmarczuk writes:
8193
8194	> Their opinion: "well, everybody knows that this is not professional,
8195	> nobody uses functional languages, all your colleagues suggest that we
8196	> should learn Lex and Yacc, etc. -
8197	> but WHAT A PLEASURE AND FUN was to write these programs in Haskell.
8198	> Almost no run-time errors, ever!"
8199
8200	A professor at my school got the opposite opinion from her students.
8201	She introduced ML (along with two other languages) as part of a course
8202	on the principles of programming languages in the third year. The
8203	students' opinion: this is such an annoyingly pedantic language, it
8204	refuses to let me run my program and get some partial though wrong
8205	results simply because I make a mistake!
8206
8207	In other words, given that humans are bound to make mistakes, the
8208	students at my school prefer to see them manifested as run-time
8209	errors.
8210
8211	So I look at your email address. Ah, you are in Europe and I am in
8212	North America. I guess that's why. Dijkstra is probably right about
8213	European programmers liking to do programming right and American
8214	programmers liking to chase after bugs.
8215	%
8216	On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:15:09PM +0200, Werner Almesberger wrote:
8217	> yodaiken@fsmlabs.com wrote:
8218	> > This call shifts delivered signal numbers up so that
8219	> > "special" POSIX signals [.. like KILL] can be delivered to a process.
8220	>
8221	> Kind of a SIGOVERKILL ... yes, that could work.
8222	%
8223	"The posix programmer knows the availability of everything, but the cost
8224	of nothing."
8225	%
8226	[after the linux-kernel list was moved to a new machine]
8227	Jeffrey Hundstad wrote:
8228	>
8229	> So tell us about this new machine. OS? Filesystem? Memory?
8230	> CPU?
8231
8232	Root password? :)
8233
8234	John.Fulmer
8235	%
8236	I think there is a world market for about five computers.
8237
8238	Thomas J. Watson (Chairman, IBM) 1943
8239	%
8240	> NO. They can/will use RAW_IO IF this is available to them. If not, they
8241	> will have to provide a proper kernel driver for their hardware. I know
8242	> which I prefer...
8243
8244	Sure. And keep that dusty 2.4.3 kernel around just in case you someday need
8245	to upgrade the firmware for your disk, and the (binary!) kernel module only
8246	works with that one. Don't forget the 2.4.15ac12 which is for your USB
8247	scanner, and also the 2.6.7-12 (Red Hat) which is the only one with the
8248	updater for the new SCSI controller.
8249	--
8250	Horst von Brand
8251	%
8252	[de.comp.lang.iso-c++]
8253
8254	>Nicht alles was Standard ist, muss auch implementiert werden.
8255
8256	[...]
8257
8258	Nicht alles, was hinkt, ist ein Vergleich.
8259	%
8260	[Drew Sanford about why not to do real-time by throwing faster hardware
8261	at your problem:]
8262
8263	The F4 Fantom fighter. The plane was essentially a large block of metal, with
8264	a few advantagously aerodynamic surfaces, and big f****** engines. If you
8265	had engine trouble in a Fantom ...you had trouble.
8266	%
8267	[Hans Reiser, on /bin/cp.. ;)]
8268	cp is inherently inefficient.
8269	%
8270	>I thought disk drives contained vacuums, thus the extensive concern over
8271	>breaking seals on them.
8272
8273	Air pressure is 1Kg/cm^2. I have never seen a hard drive case that looked
8274	nearly strong enough to take such pressure. Basically if you can't jump on a
8275	hard drive then it's not strong enough!
8276
8277	...
8278
8279	There's a story that Dave Cutler (VMS and WNT architect) when he was at DEC
8280	did a test on a DEC hard drive by blowing cigar smoke into the drive which
8281	killed it properly. DEC then greatly enhanced their drive air filters. It
8282	could be just an urban myth though.
8283
8284	Russell Coker
8285	%
8286	>I've unsubscribed our somewhat less than intelligent friend.
8287	>Ah, Internet for the masses. What a wonderful idea.
8288
8289	Yeah, let's have an IQ test before you're allowed to buy a modem.
8290	%
8291	On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 02:40:33PM +0200, Marc Lehmann wrote:
8292	> "Yury Yu. Rupasov" wrote:
8293	> > All my current benchmarks show that reiserfs works correctly on
8294	> > deleting.
8295	>
8296	> Just a sidenote: you don't test correctness with benchmarks :(
8297
8298	Wrong. Yury does.
8299	:(
8300
8301	--
8302	Stefan
8303	%
8304	"Jeff V. Merkey" writes:
8305	> I will provide a tool that decodes and repairs NTFS volumes to those
8306	> folks who run into this problem, but our agreements with Microsoft do
8307	> not allow us to distribute it for any purpose other than to assist
8308	> Microsoft customers who have corrupted drives. Also, this tool is
8309	> dependent on the DDK being present to run as it has dependencies on the
8310	> DDK DLL's, so you'll need to install the DDK to use it.
8311
8312	DDK == "Disk Death Kit"?
8313
8314	Ian Soboroff ian@cs.umbc.edu
8315	%
8316	[very instructional movie, if you get what I mean...]
8317	00:30-02:05 (13) ( -35) Kabel 1 Das Mädchen am Ende der Straße The
8318	Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane Psychodrama - KAN/F/USA - 1976 -
8319	Regie: Nicolas Gessner * Die 13-jährige Rynn (Jodie Foster) lebt allein in
8320	einer alten Villa und hütet ein schreckliches Geheimnis.
8321	%
8322	[Einsichten in die "Kommunikation"]
8323	> > > Ich beschreibe dir, was in dem Moment an Eindruecken durch meinen
8324	> > > Kopf geht - in dem Augenblick bin ich Besucher und sehe was
8325	> > > mir gefaellt oder nicht - das ist wie ein Schmierzettel. Die
8326	> > > Ausarbeitung der Ideen kommt danach im Gespraech. Du packst solche
8327	> > > Sachen anders an - das seh ich ein. Aber ich bin mit dieser
8328	> > > Art chaos bisher immer ans Ziel gekommen. Was ich mach will -
8329	> > > machen muss - ist Feedback generieren. Ich lass Versuchsballons
8330	> > > aufsteigen und schau zu, wie sie entweder fliegen oder abgeschossen
8331	> > > werden. Dann reagier ich auf das Ergebnis.
8332	%
8333	[Mitch, als Erklärung dafür, weshalb er blindlings ein (kaputtes) ssh-rpm
8334	installiert hat, das er über rpmfind gefunden hat:]
8335	Doch, echt! Der Server war trusted, der sah' ja sowas von vertrauenswürdig
8336	aus!
8337	%
8338	[IMHO one of the main reasons linux is nicer]
8339	http://www.cyberport.com/~tangent/ix/bsod-story.html
8340	%
8341	[On the reality of random numbers]
8342	> /dev in a world with dynamic hardware, so why bother? We only need
8343	> to provide random numbers to fill in struct stat. (zero works)
8344	Alan Cox [as usual ;)]
8345	%
8346	[Flame Warriors]
8347	http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
8348	%
8349	A programmer who hasn't been exposed to all four of the imperative,
8350	functional, objective, and logical programming styles has one or
8351	more conceptual blindspots. It's like knowing how to boil but not
8352	fry. Programming is not a skill one develops in five easy lessons.
8353
8354	--tom
8355	%
8356	To: bugs@gimp.org
8357	X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 105
8358
8359	Hi there, I recently downloaded your gimp toolkit. At first I was having
8360	problems until I read your download help tip. I understand I have to compile
8361	it so I tried using Borland C++ Compiler but it said the line length exceeds
8362	editor capacity. Is there any other compiler I can use that wouldn't rip a
8363	whole in my wallet. Thank you for your support.
8364	%
8365	["General Information About Using VBScript with Outlook"]
8366	VBScript is designed to be a secure programming environment. It
8367	lacks various commands that can be potentially damaging if used in
8368	a malicious manner. This added security is critical in enterprise
8369	solutions.
8370
8371	http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q167/1/38.ASP
8372
8373	[Despite this "added security", however, VBscript still can modify,
8374	rename, delete files, modify windows registry entries and send email in
8375	the background]
8376	%
8377	[Phil Agre on the "ILOVEYOU" virus and Microsoft's reaction]
8378	Scott Culp of Microsoft Public Relations, excuse me, I mean Microsoft
8379	Security Response Center:
8380
8381	This is a general issue, not a Microsoft issue. You can write a
8382	virus for any platform. (New York Times 5/5/00)
8383
8384	[and later]
8385	Mr. Culp also says this (CNET 5/5/00):
8386
8387	This is by-design behavior, not a security vulnerability.
8388
8389	[Phil closes]
8390	Microsoft shouldn't be broken up. It should be shut down.
8391
8392	[See also http://dlis.gseis.ucla.edu/people/pagre/rre.html]
8393	[and http://commons.somewhere.com/rre/2000/RRE.notes.and.recommenda6.html]
8394	%
8395	[Bruce Schneier about the "ILOVEYOU" virus]
8396	Expect even worse in the future. Systems running either Microsoft Office
8397	2000 or Internet Explorer 5.0 can be infected with these sorts of viruses
8398	even if the recipient doesn't open the attachment. That's right; if the
8399	system is running Internet Explorer with the default settings, it is
8400	vulnerable. The problem is caused by a programming bug in an Internet
8401	Explorer ActiveX control. Thank you, Microsoft.
8402	%
8403	>Reaching to Fallingbostel was extremely amusing though, germany is
8404	>splitted into two halfs, one that doesn't know Fallingbostel and one
8405	>that 'heard of this place but have no idea where it is' at some point I
8406	>was almost convinced that there is no such place :)
8407
8408	[Trashey / Quasars]
8409	%
8410	Tom Christiansen writes:
8411	> I'm writing perlrtfm. It explains search techniques, not quickfix
8412	> switches plugging bursting dykes by springing more leaks.
8413
8414	Irony potential in
8415
8416	man perlrtfm
8417
8418	is left to the reader.
8419
8420	Nat
8421	%
8422	Do you plan to release support for on-the-fly file and directory compression
8423	and encryption as in NTFSv2?
8424
8425	(Imagine a system that in order to run needs a diskette or CD-ROM disk with
8426	private key - protection never seen except in movies ;-)
8427	%
8428	[Telekom-Techniker, bei einer ISDN-UK0-Messung!]
8429	Ich: Also, einen Layer-1-Connect bekomme ich...
8430	Telekomiker: Layer-1? Was ist das? Aber ich bekomme ja auch gar kein Freizeichen...
8431	%
8432	"I love the way Microsoft follows standards. In much the
8433	same manner that fish follow migrating caribou."
8434	Paul Tomblin
8435	%
8436	[recently on p5p]
8437	>I am morally
8438	>convinced that map() was written based on grep()
8439
8440	Considering they use the same op function, I'd say that's a distinct
8441	possibility...
8442
8443	Dan
8444	%
8445	[after the "Welle Erdball" performance on the Mekka&Symposium 2000:]
8446	<jan> bine: du solltest da nicht hingucken, das ist nicht gut fürn kopf
8447	<Bordeaux> after listening to this crap, and hearing zugabe zugabe i finally have the proof that all german c64 sceners are gay :)
8448	<Mr> zugabe
8449	%
8450	"Why upon hearing his arguments I changed my opinion 360 degrees."
8451	Recent comment on the floor of some state legislature
8452	%
8453	DIVIDE EMPLOYEE-EARNINGS BY EMPLOYEE-HOURS GIVING EMPLOYEE-PAY-RATE
8454	[cobol, sigh]
8455	%
8456	It is expected that the Multics system will be published when it is
8457	operating substantially and will therefore be available for implementation
8458	on any equipment with suitable characteristics. Such publication is
8459	desirable for two reasons: First, the system should withstand public
8460	scrutiny and criticism volunteered by interested readers; second, in an
8461	age of increasing complexity, it is an obligation to present and future
8462	system designers to make the inner operating system as lucid as possible
8463	so as to reveal the basic system issues.
8464
8465	Corbat_ & Vyssotsky 1965
8466	%
8467	"Rule #7: Silence is not acquiescence.
8468
8469	"Contrary to what you may have heard, silence of those present is
8470	not necessarily consent, even the reluctant variety. They simply
8471	may sit in stunned silence and figure ways of sabotaging the plan
8472	after they regain their composure."
8473
8474	-- Paul Rinaldo
8475	[see also http://people.qualcomm.com/karn/rinaldo.html]
8476	%
8477	On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 12:09:59AM +1000, Chris wrote:
8478	>
8479	> In case you guys havn't noticed...
8480	>
8481	> http://slashdot.org reports that XFS is now released.
8482
8483	Yes, and http://www.freshmeat.net reports:
8484
8485	Error: Unable to connect to MySQL Server ().
8486
8487	;-}
8488
8489	--
8490
8491	ciao -
8492	Stefan
8493
8494	%
8495	> The 'hypervisor' is a new term to me.. Are you refering to the
8496	> Transmeta CPU and it's native mode? If I read you correctly
8497
8498	No its what the S/390 VM is often called. Its a supervisor for supervisor
8499	mode programs so illogically enough its a hypervisor 8). The IBM mainframe
8500	guys thing this kind of set up is routine. Unix is met with
8501	'You mean you cant run a new kernel on test at the same time as the old
8502	one' type remarks.
8503	[Alan Cox]
8504	%
8505	Godwin's Law
8506
8507	As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
8508	involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
8509
8510	[see also http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/]
8511	%
8512	["Stefan im IRC."]
8513
8514	[01:53:07] <coda> anyone know how to get emacs to stop creating the file.name~ files?
8515	[01:53:24] <JanMan> alias emacs=vi
8516	[01:53:31] <coda> haha
8517	%
8518	[remaining problems with OpenBIOS]
8519	Our SDRAM sizing and init code is not very good; we could use good code.
8520	The code we've been offered so far requires memory to work (oops!);
8521	requires a stack (oops!); or assumes a totally configured machine (oops!).
8522	%
8523	[Alan Cox on wether special fs's should have require "//" in their path]
8524	> No :-) It's a feature. Some things are going REAL ugly without such things.
8525
8526	Given //ipc or freebsd, I think I'd pick freebsd. Thats how ugly the idea
8527	is to me ok.
8528	%
8529	"The code is self documenting." -- The Programmer.
8530
8531	"I don't read C." -- The Tech Writer.
8532	%
8533	[Stefan Sebolth, on the CeBIT, while listening to the original c64 "Giana Sisters" tune:]
8534	Haaach, da war die Welt halt noch in Ordnung!
8535	%
8536	Remember, never ask a geek "why";
8537	just nod your head and back away slowly...
8538	%
8539	The thought of implementing something like text and binary modes for
8540	files is a about a frightening for todays kernel developer's as a mouse
8541	to a women in a typical movie of the 50's ;-)
8542
8543	Ralf
8544	%
8545	It may be real, but it's icky. It's too traditional Unix ``I don't
8546	care if we lose 90% of our market base to NT if our competitor loses
8547	95% of THEIR market base!'' to be palatable.
8548
8549	david parsons
8550	%
8551	["some time ago on p5p"]
8552	> ($host) = gethostbyname('localhost');
8553
8554	>Sadly most UNIX boxes don't add a sane alias to their /etc/hosts file
8555	>so that trick is not portable.
8556
8557	% grep localhost /etc/hosts
8558	127.0.0.1 localhost
8559
8560	--tom
8561	%
8562	["some time ago on p5p"]
8563	On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:22:05PM -0700, Tom Christiansen wrote:
8564	> >But given that most slip drivers I have seen for OS/2 do not do this,
8565	> >the question is moot.
8566	>
8567	> I'll send you a free Unix system.
8568
8569	Thanks, the doors in my house are well-balanced. ;-)
8570
8571	Ilya
8572	%
8573	[Elliott H Mitchell on the reiserfs list]
8574	> Me thinks if unwillingness to use tar over dump will stop you from
8575	> using a better filesystem there will be lots of other reasons that
8576	> will stop you from trying anything new too. So it is not really worth
8577	> trying.
8578
8579	Yeah, if a filesystem randomly lost files and the authors had no plans to
8580	fix it, that would kind discourage one from using it...
8581	%
8582	[Russel Coker on the reiserfs list]
8583	... my old Thinkpad 380XD (Pentium-233 with 3.2G ide hard drive) running
8584	ReiserFS and exporting the file system over 10baseT Ethernet could
8585	outperform local hard drives on an AIX machine running JFS.
8586	%
8587	[Peter Mattis, author of GIMP]
8588	I can't say anything about Rasterman because I've never looked at any of
8589	his code. My only comment about Raster is that he should learn to spell.
8590	%
8591	[David Schwartz on linux-kernel]
8592	> ORBS does not do ANYTHING above try to send few LEGAL
8593	> strings to mailservers with LONG delays. So if you block ORBS you deserve
8594	> blocking :-)
8595
8596	That's not the point. The point is that ORBS claims to be a list of
8597	validated open mail relays, and it's not. It's not supposed to be a list of
8598	people who deserve anything in particular. I'm sure if you talk to the
8599	people who have chosen to block ORBS, you will find that they have their
8600	reasons.
8601
8602	DS
8603	%
8604	[WDR, 19991216 Fernsehen mit Manuel]
8605	Es ist ein Fall bekannt, bei dem sich ein Patient über ein Jahr lang
8606	geweigert hatte, auf die Toilette zu gehen. Dann haben seine Verwandten
8607	und Ärzte ihn dazu überreden können, endlich die Toilette aufzusuchen. Er
8608	hat dabei auf einmal 37 Liter entleert.
8609
8610	Danach lebte er noch ganz normal einige Jahre, bis er, wie in Amerika
8611	üblich, erschossen wurde.
8612	%
8613	> - My Maxtor 27G drive ends up in PIO mode (non-SMP system, but likely
8614	[...]
8615	> Last time I reported this, I had a WDC31600, as hda, and the maxtor as
8616	[...]
8617
8618	You committed a mortal sin in ATA............
8619	You never ever mix WD and Maxtor..........on day I will document why.
8620	Basically these two vendors have timings that are completely incompatable
8621	with each other on the same channel.
8622
8623	IMHO, WD is crap..........however, you may split the two pieces of
8624	hardware and they will work fine under linux and all other OS's.
8625
8626	This rule of "never ever mix WD and Maxtor" is OS independent.
8627	%
8628	[ALF2-Benutzerhandbuch]
8629	"Nur eine tote Festplatte ist eine sichere Festplatte."
8630	%
8631	Physicists write FORTRAN in any language.
8632	%
8633	[OpenBOOT 3.10.6 response to pressing "Ctrl-Alt-Del":]
8634	ANY word at all is a candidate.
8635	USE words to see the entire dictionary.
8636	ok
8637	%
8638	[SDF for POD Users]
8639	... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - even Lisp has it's fans. :-)
8640	%
8641	<Xach> schmorp: i haven't been doing any gimpy things lately
8642	<schmorp> xach: well, who is doing gimpy things lately :(
8643	<Xach> schmorp: Mitch
8644	<schmorp> xach: ok.
8645	<Xach> schmorp: you are not keeping pace with the other germans
8646	<Xach> schmorp: you must work more diligently! FOCUS!! DON'T TALK!!
8647	<Xach> burrito, focus
8648	<Burrito> FOCUS you BABOON!
8649	%
8650	[Paul Miller]
8651	... I find Knuth's attitude to be far more logical: "Be careful about
8652	using the following code -- I've only proven that it works, I haven't
8653	tested it." ...
8654	%
8655	Intel Inside -- Idiot Outside!
8656	%
8657	Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
8658
8659	Bart Lateur wrote in message <383a4712.942513@news.skynet.be>...
8660	>Petrus Prawirodidjojo wrote:
8661	>
8662	>>So we must compete with Windows CE.
8663	>
8664	>"Please wait while your Toaster shuts down."
8665	>
8666	>"My microwave oven hangs, I have to reboot."
8667	>
8668	>No thank you. :-) I don't think Microsoft somehow can "automatically" be
8669	>the most obvious choice as a supplier of system software for embedded
8670	>systems.
8671
8672
8673	Quite so. Windows CE is rapidly losing what small market share they once
8674	had.
8675
8676	--
8677	Neal Bridges
8678	%
8679	On 27 Nov 1999, sanjay Kumar wrote:
8680
8681	> Hi folks,
8682	> i got some problem in using linux.When segmentation fault happens four five times continously OS is not working properly,insted of I remove the core dump and core dump bug ,Why?
8683	> please reply to
8684	> sanjay_rect@rediffmail.com
8685	> and sigma_btl@vsnl.com
8686
8687	Parse error.
8688
8689	---
8690	Alex
8691	%
8692	From: Richard Earnshaw <rearnsha@arm.com>
8693
8694	> Why do we really need to support compiling with -ansi when
8695	> including a non-ANSI header file in a C program?
8696
8697	Because some vendors wouldn't recognize a C standard it if hit them. The
8698	amount of code that purports to be ANSI C code, but is in fact nothing of
8699	the sort, has to be seen to be believed.
8700
8701	That doesn't mean that I don't want my program to be clean ANSI C.
8702	%
8703	[one of the few good us movies]
8704	Talk Radio Mediendrama - USA - 1988 - Regie: Oliver Stone * Sein Zynismus wird dem Radiomoderator Barry zum Verhängnis.
8705	%
8706	[guess the language AND the language revision ;)]
8707	ii = 44;
8708	p = &ii;
8709	p = ii/p;
8710	ii++; /* Don't forget to increment ii. */
8711	printf ( "ii = %d\n", *p );
8712	%
8713	> But many systems set the RTC while running Win*ooze. That will affect
8714	> Linux time then.
8715
8716	Here is another microsoft Innovation (TM):
8717
8718	They now allow you to run your BIOS-clock in UTC! (Just like
8719	Linux. Woops. Just gave it away...)
8720
8721	Roger.
8722	%
8723	<Tommer> schmorp, for the next trick, do <frameset> <frame src=dataurl:> <frame src=dataurl:> </frameset> :)
8724	%
8725	auto accident;
8726	register voters;
8727	static electricity;
8728	struct by_lightning;
8729	void *where_prohibited;
8730	char broiled;
8731	short circuit;
8732	short changed;
8733	long johns;
8734	unsigned long letter;
8735	double entendre;
8736	double trouble;
8737	union organizer;
8738	float valve;
8739	short pants;
8740	union station;
8741	void check; unsigned check;
8742	struct dumb by[sizeof member];
8743	%
8744	[I like TV Movie's nexTView comments]
8745	22:40-00:05 (21) ( -34) ARD Mord auf hoher See Inflammable Thriller - USA
8746	- 1995 - Regie: Peter Werner * Stephen King
8747	verhunzt als Regisseur sein Buch im großen Stil.
8748	%
8749	Carmen Lucia Tancredo Borges wrote:
8750
8751	I have a program written in Fortran that runs on an IBM RS/6000
8752	worstation.
8753	%
8754	I wrote
8755	> I hope not. chomp() should match the string in $?, no more or less.
8756	$/
8757
8758	Damn shift key.
8759
8760
8761	Mike Guy
8762	%
8763	[rfc2635]
8764	The term "spam" as it is used to denote mass unsolicited mailings or
8765	netnews postings is derived from a Monty Python sketch set in a
8766	movie/tv studio cafeteria. During that sketch, the word "spam" takes
8767	over each item offered on the menu until the entire dialogue consists
8768	of nothing but "spam spam spam spam spam spam and spam." This so
8769	closely resembles what happens when mass unsolicited mail and posts
8770	take over mailing lists and netnews groups that the term has been
8771	pushed into common usage in the Internet community.
8772	%
8773	[CRYPTO-GRAM, November 15, 1999]
8774
8775	The Doghouse: Microsoft Windows CE
8776
8777	Microsoft encrypts your Windows NT password when stored on a Windows CE
8778	device. But if you look carefully at their encryption algorithm, they
8779	simply XOR the password with "susageP", Pegasus spelled backwards. Pegasus
8780	is the code name of Windows CE. This is so pathetic it's staggering.
8781
8782	http://www.cegadgets.com/artsusageP.htm
8783	%
8784	: Isn't the point that (void)'grep EXPR, LIST' is now better written as
8785	: 'EXPR for LIST'? Or am I misunderstanding your point here?
8786
8787	It really doesn't bother me if people want to use grep or map in a void
8788	context. It didn't bother me before there was a for modifier, and
8789	now that there is one, it still doesn't bother me. I'm just not very
8790	easy to bother.
8791
8792	The argument against using an operator for other than its primary
8793	purpose strikes me the same as the old argument that you shouldn't have
8794	sex for other than procreational purposes. Sometimes side effects
8795	are more enjoyable than the originally intended effect.
8796
8797	That being said, I'd never grep someone in a void context myself.
8798
8799	Larry
8800	%
8801	[that one's only for insiders...]
8802	> : BASE @ . \ = 10, verified original base was restored
8803	Yeah. :-)
8804	%
8805	[comp.lang.forth]
8806	> Old Antactic Explorers Penguin Recipe:
8807	[...]
8808	> Start fire under pot, raise seawater to boiling point.
8809
8810	Since it is very difficult to find wood on Antarctica, typically
8811	penguins are used to light the fire (due to their fat, they burn well).
8812	I also woudln't use any water, the penguins are fried fine in their own
8813	fat (you can use old fat to heat up the pot for another penguin).
8814
8815	Note that most people in Antarctica have been seal-slayers and
8816	whale-killers, so they were rough people. Usually, they didn't bother
8817	with killing the penguins before setting them on fire. I'm glad this
8818	receipts aren't used anymore.
8819	%
8820	Sie muessen einen PC nicht einschalten um herauszufinden ob Windows
8821	installiert ist. Sehen Sie einfach nach, ob die Aufschrift auf der
8822	Reset-Taste noch lesbar ist.
8823	%
8824	> Erinnert mich an den Kerl bei mir in der Videothek. Hab mir DHY ausgeliehen
8825	> und er sagt doch zu mir: "Ist aber mit Untertiteln." Sag ich: "Na prima!"
8826	> Fragt er: "Wieso, was ist denn daran so interessant, wenn man nichts
8827	> versteht?"
8828	%
8829	[de.alt.anime]
8830	Bei meiner Videothek fliegt ein "Ghost in the Shell" Tape
8831	"Ab18" rum. Das machte mich irgendwie stutzig weil auf
8832	der Schachtel meiner 16er zwei Szenenfotos sind, die im
8833	Film gar nicht vorkommen (ironischer Weise direkt über
8834	dem "Uncut & Unzesored" Schildchen). Andererseits ist
8835	mir völlig schleierhaft, was es bei dem Filmchen zu zensieren
8836	geben soll. Nur die oben beschriebene Feststellung hat diese
8837	Frage erneut aufgeworfen.
8838	ji!
8839	%
8840	I do worry about syntactic clutter, ever since my daughter came
8841	in, looked over my shoulder, and said, "What is that, swearing?"
8842	[Larry Wall]
8843	%
8844	Der letzte untergegangene altisraelitische Stamm war der der
8845	Altpreussen.
8846	- Norbert Marzahn am 15.8.98 in
8847	de.soc.politik.deutschland
8848	%
8849	> > Aber die Theorien, die Norbert aufstellt, ueber zum Beispiel die
8850	> > gegossenen Steinformen, die sich hochdruecken, den fuerchterlichen
8851	> > Kometen, der im vergangenen August die Erde zerstoert hat und solche
8852	> > Sachen find ich wirklich Klasse ;-)
8853	>
8854	> Jau. Und erstmal seine Erklärungsversuche, wenn's mal wieder nichts
8855	> geworden ist (wo bleibt eigentlich der Planet X, der während der
8856	> Syonnenfinsternis auftauchen sollte?)...
8857
8858	Drei Tage Dunkelheit und viele Trümmerteile sollte er bringen, gell,
8859	Norbert?
8860	%
8861	Marzahnismen: http://www.bruhaha.de/normarz.html
8862	Norbert Marzahn sagt: Ich besitze die Mittel, um
8863	"Rechts"- und "Links"-Radikalismus auszuloeschen.
8864	%
8865	http://welcome.to/levitenbuero/
8866	%
8867	<Xach> babelfish.pitney.org: "We may not get it right, but boy are we fast!"
8868	%
8869	Subject: GNU compiler
8870	From: "Steve"
8871	Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:05:03 -0400
8872	To: <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
8873	X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0
8874
8875	[the following was a single line, of course]
8876	I downloaded the compiler and am trying to install it and the
8877	instructions seem to be very complicated. Can you help me understand
8878	how to install them? There is no setup file and I have downloaded from
8879	several sites in the thought that I might have the wrong version. Your
8880	assistance would be greatly appreciated
8881
8882	Thanks,
8883
8884	Steve
8885	%
8886	[an "I am doing high end graphic design" type of person:]
8887	> Also, could someone tell me how to calculate DPI of an image? I have not
8888	> managed to figure this DPI system out, for example, if an image is a
8889	> 100?50 pixels, what's the DPI??
8890	%
8891	<tigert> xachbot, op
8892	<XachBot> tigert: I have an 88 magnum. It shoots through schools.
8893	<tigert> ahem
8894	%
8895	<tc> xachbot, acro FOOBAR
8896	-XachBot:#gimp- FOOBAR: FTP Operation Over Big Address Records \| See FUBAR [Net jargon] (cached)
8897	<tc> just when you thought you had something to baffle xachbot
8898	%
8899	[the release of perl 5.000]
8900	Date: Mon, 17 Oct 94 16:48:04 -0700
8901	From: Larry Wall <lwall@scalpel.netlabs.com>
8902	Subject: It's soup.
8903
8904	Okay, it's there.
8905
8906	ftp://ftp.netlabs.com/pub/outgoing/perl5.0/perl5.000.tar.gz
8907
8908	The first one who tells me about a bug in it gets shot.
8909
8910	Larry
8911	%
8912	l33+ h4X0rz
8913	%
8914	# A random text generator using Markov chains
8915	perl -e 'while(<>){$f.= $_}@l=split(/\s+/, $f);for($i=0;$i<@l-1;$i++){$W{$l[$i]
8916	}.=" ".$l[$i+1];}sub a{$w=$l[1]}&a;sub b{print "\n"}while($w){if(!($W{$w})){&b;
8917	&b;&a;last if ($q++>3);}print"$w ";@p=split(/ /,$W{$w});$c=@p;until($s=int(rand
8918	($c))){1}$w=$p[$s]}&b' big_text_file
8919	%
8920	> && d'oh! i knew that! can she allow her lusers to use deja? here is the url
8921	> && for the post with the whole description of how i used -P
8922	>
8923	> Well, access to deja isn't forbidden, but access to the keyboard is.
8924	> And there's no mouse.
8925	>
8926	> Abigail
8927
8928	Wow. Someone else who reads usenet by osmosis... cool.
8929
8930	Matt.
8931	%
8932	Ok, our threads aren't so bad. Python's have one big
8933	giant global interpreter lock. :-)
8934
8935	- --tom
8936	%
8937	From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
8938	Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:42:19 -0700 (PDT)
8939
8940	On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Hubert Mantel wrote:
8941	>
8942	> So the huge ISDN update in proposed-2.2.11 will be removed from the final
8943	> 2.2.11 release?
8944
8945	[ Irritated mode: FULL BLAST ]
8946
8947	Are you being stupid on purpose, or were you born that way?
8948
8949	Go back and read the thread. Read why I'm irritated. READ. THINK.
8950	%
8951	Understanding is a three edged sword. Do you want to get the point?
8952	%
8953	["MVS uses quite heavy algorithms for swapping"]
8954	On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 07:55:32PM +0200, Lieven Marchand wrote:
8955	> Last time I looked at it, it got to the point they had moved some
8956	> ASSISTs into microcode. IIRC, some manipulations of the process
8957	> block. I doubt Intel/Sun/MIPS/IBM is going to accomodate Linux quite
8958	> that much ;-)
8959
8960	IBM is really really good on process technology. They have had to be.
8961	%
8962	MVS spends a lot of time running OS algorithms to allow full
8963	preemption that Linux wastes on running user applications.
8964	%
8965	[comments on the gcc-2.95 release]
8966	<QUOTE>
8967	I'm having problems compiling it for HP-UX 10.20. Any ideas?
8968
8969	(I haven't actually finished downloading it yet, but I just know I'm
8970	gonna have problems with this crappy OS ;-)
8971	</QUOTE>
8972	%
8973	The Internet interprets Windows as damage,
8974	and routes around it.
8975
8976	Roger Larsson
8977	Skellefteå
8978	%
8979	[configuring gcc]
8980	Noone should use --prefix=/usr without --with-local-prefix=/usr/local
8981	%
8982	'You can solve any programming problem with another level of indirection,
8983	except the problem of too many levels of indirection.'
8984	%
8985	[http://www.itknowledge.com/tpj/issues/vol4_1/tpj0401-0015.html]
8986
8987	Z-code interpreters have also been written in Java; unfortunately, when it
8988	comes to cross-platform compatibility, Java's user-interface classes are
8989	finicky and unstable--just ask anyone who's tried to reason with the AWT
8990	on different JVMs.
8991
8992	[and later]
8993
8994	Pilfer is a practical implementation of two of the cardinal rules of
8995	adventure gaming:
8996
8997	1.Anything that is not nailed down is mine.
8998	2.Anything that I can pry loose is not nailed down.
8999	%
9000	[the \|\|-operator can be thought of as "or", && can be thought of as
9001	"and", but how would you call the ??-operator?]
9002
9003	>>>>> "NK" == Nathan Kurz <nate@valleytel.net> writes:
9004
9005	NK> ?? -> huh?
9006
9007	That's a great name. The huh? operator.
9008
9009	<chaim>
9010	%
9011	`One of the reasons we continue to use Fortran is that it's easier to fix
9012	code written without attention to such details in Fortran than in other
9013	languages. To put it another way, Fortran is the only language where
9014	people who barely get by with their numerical skills can "write useful
9015	numerical code." Many times those people are the only experts in their
9016	specialty available to put a needed procedure into practice.'
9017	%
9018	[Moderator der Sending "Teatime" auf "Radio Okerwelle", 1999-07-12]
9019	Ich muß schließlich hören was ich sage, damit ich weiß, was ich denke.
9020	%
9021	[Dr. Dobbs #8, 1999, describing how you can AVOID downloading or executing
9022	Java applets, scripts and ActiveX controls while _parsing_(!) an html
9023	page]
9024	... you must utilize IOleControl::OnAmbientPropertyChange with the
9025	value DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Before you can do this, however, you
9026	must call IOleObject::SetClientSite so that IOleControl will work
9027	properly. This is the reason you derive from IOleClientSite, even
9028	though you don't extend its functionality in any way. After the call to
9029	OnAmbientPropertyChange, IE4 will call your Invoke method to check the
9030	value of DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Invoke simply sets the correct bits to
9031	disable the behaviour you don't want and returns NOERROR.
9032	[Still interested in knowing how you can disable the "file not found"
9033	dialog box that will pop up when you try to parse a non-accessible file?]
9034	%
9035	[Linus, whom I quote rarely ;-]
9036	Message passing as the fundamental operation of the OS is just an
9037	excercise in computer science masturbation. It may feel good, but you
9038	don't actually get anything DONE.
9039	%
9040	Advantages of Windows NT over Linux:
9041	* It's easier to explain the crash was not your fault.
9042	* You've to remember only one solution all to your problems: Reboot.
9043	* You can use your mouse to type an email-message.
9044	%
9045	> 1) On the PIII, there is the capability to get a system unique serial
9046	> number from the CPU. Does Linux read this data already? Is there plans to
9047	> read the serial number and then disable the capability (maybe so you could
9048	> get the serial number from the OS)?
9049
9050	Current Linux disables it and doesn't save the value.
9051	%
9052	[CRYPTO-GRAM 1999-06-15]
9053	"Microsoft set the security state-of-the-art back 25 years with DOS, and
9054	they have continued that legacy to this day."
9055	%
9056	[From "The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature", by Thomas Scoville]
9057	"In a world increasingly dominated by image culture (TV, movies, .jpg
9058	files), UNIX remains rooted in the culture of the word."
9059	%
9060	> If it is clearly documented that will not happen.
9061
9062	Yeah, sure. Unfortunately, if the "correct" treatment of this feature
9063	means to change a dozen source files (and rth's comments make me fear
9064	that that's the case), the chance that someone, somewhere forgets to say
9065	exactly why these changes were necessary (and on what other changes in
9066	other files they depend) is far larger than I want to consider. We've
9067	seen this before. Lucky we are that some long time gcc-hackers are
9068	still among us, who might remark: Oh yes, that's undefined by the C
9069	Standard, but it happens to be an extension gcc supports ... Seen that,
9070	got the T-shirt.
9071	%
9072	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
9073	From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
9074	Date: Fri, 4 Jun 99 10:00:16 PDT
9075	To: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
9076	Cc: craig@jcb-sc.com, jbuck@Synopsys.COM, mark@codesourcery.com,
9077	davem@redhat.com, chip@perlsupport.com, egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
9078	X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
9079
9080	Linus writes, to Craig:
9081
9082	> I haven't maintained a compiler long-term. I _have_ maintained a larger,
9083	> and arguably mode complex system with many more degrees of freedom and
9084	> thus choices than gcc.
9085
9086	No, gcc is substantially larger than the Linux kernel (on the order of 10x
9087	larger, as anyone can easily verify). gcc does not need to deal with race
9088	conditions, so in that sense it is simpler, but in other respects it is
9089	far more complex than the kernel.
9090
9091	[NOTE for the reader: this is not really true, as the device drivers
9092	bomb the comparison away, but the complexity argument still holds]
9093
9094	[ personal insults deleted, perhaps the author is in need of a vacation ]
9095	%
9096	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
9097	From: craig@jcb-sc.com
9098	To: torvalds@transmeta.com
9099
9100	>I want the _user_ to be able to give input.
9101	[...]
9102	>I happen to think that the "explicit cast invalidates the alias
9103	>information" rule is the simplest and best one, and gives the user the
9104	>best control without adding things like new attributes or other ways to
9105	>let the user be in control.
9106
9107	In other words, you believe you are a better language designer than
9108	the ISO C people as well as the gcc maintainers, despite the fact
9109	that you know, what, nothing about language design, and nothing
9110	about compiler design and, especially, long-term maintenance of
9111	compilers?
9112	%
9113	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
9114	From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
9115
9116	Linus writes:
9117	> Oh, you don't expect me to complain about bad code generation when I know
9118	> gcc could do better?
9119
9120	Oh, don't worry, we expect you to complain, and in a rude and insulting
9121	matter at that. We're used to it. It seems that you were a nicer guy
9122	before you had so many worshippers.
9123	%
9124	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
9125	From: Branko Cibej <branko.cibej@hermes.si>
9126	Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:07:09 +0200
9127	To: egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
9128	X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I)
9129
9130	Linus Torvalds wrote:
9131
9132	> I think it's a damn shame that instead of technical arguments _everything_
9133	> revolves around people reading the standard as if it was the bible, and
9134	> trying to make people feel guilty for not really caring. It's not a sin to
9135	> just want to get good code without having to do magic contortions, guys.
9136
9137	Why, Linus, it's trivial to do! Use MSVC instead of egcs, then you can do
9138
9139	#pragma optimize("a", on/off)
9140
9141	around every single statement, if you like. It even supports anonymous unions
9142	_and_ structs, and is only slightly influenced by the ISO C standard.
9143
9144	They'll even sell you a version that can generate code for the alpha!
9145
9146	>:->
9147
9148	Brane
9149
9150
9151	P.S.: Just for the record: I, a "real user" and (imnsho) a "clever programmer"
9152	who "know what I'm doing", at least most of the time, and who do not "read the
9153	standard as if it were a bible", vote for having a standard-conforming
9154	compiler that's not bloated by a ton of marginally useful (or even useless)
9155	features. If I want featuritis, I know where I can get it.
9156
9157
9158	P.P.S: They can't even spell "optimise" ...
9159	%
9160	You can have it Soon, Cheap, and Working; choose two
9161	%
9162	"Scientific" studies have found that a 2.2.x Linux router with
9163	fast-switching enabled, using Tulip 100baseT cards, can melt a
9164	high-end Cisco's 100baseT interfaces.
9165	%
9166	1) Thread switching is faster than process switching by a little bit on Linux
9167	2) Process switching on linux is faster than thread switching on NT
9168	3) Almost anything is faster than process switching on NT
9169	%
9170	[gimp-developers, on the use of keyboard modifiers for drawing tools]
9171
9172	> Simple. Powerful. Fast. Choose at most two.
9173
9174	Perhaps this should be an option in the preferences dialog? :)
9175	%
9176	[perl is cryptic??]
9177	Subject: @{$${->{{{{~{}~{{{NO CARRIER
9178	From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@iki.fi>
9179	Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:55:37 +0300 (EET DST)
9180
9181	We have still a long way to go-- from the zsh-workers mailing list:
9182
9183	: Just thought of a trivial way to take a lot of grief out of parameter
9184	: substitution. This patch makes the following valid:
9185	:
9186	: ${${${${(f)"$(typeset)"}:#local \=}%%\=}##* }
9187	:
9188	: replacing the equivalent but grotesquer
9189	:
9190	: "${(@)${(@)${(@)${(@f)$(typeset)}:#local \=}%%\=}##* }"
9191	%
9192	Long noun chains don't automatically imply security. - Bruce Schneier
9193	%
9194	> \|> Spoken as a true C programmer. However you are wrong. Case-preserving, but
9195	> \|> insensitive, is the CORRECT way for file systems. Capitalization should not
9196	> \|> matter for interpretation of a file name just as it doesn't matter for
9197	> \|> interpreting words in any human language.
9198	>
9199	> This is wrong. In German, there is a big difference between "paar" und
9200	> "Paar" (the first meaning "a few", the second "pair").
9201
9202	The classic example:
9203
9204	"Ich habe liebe Genossen in Moskau" - I've got dead comreds in Moscow.
9205	"Ich habe Liebe genossen in Moskau" - I enjoyed love in Moscow.
9206	%
9207	[do we need oo-style IO::File class in perl?]
9208	>_You_ aren't gonna code "use IO::File".
9209
9210	And there's no reason for anyone else to, either, especially
9211	once Nick finishes the Larry-blessed autovivification of
9212	lvaluabled undefs in open(), socket(), etc.
9213
9214	What's next, a String class for Perl?
9215
9216	--tom
9217	%
9218	[some example of the kind of mail I sometimes receive:]
9219	i was just trying to help u out not hurt you in anyway ok i have the fbi
9220	working on something for me
9221	u havent done anything to me ok and the sherriffs department came by to talk
9222	to me nutting concerning y ok
9223	piece
9224	russ
9225	%
9226	[From "Basic Information about Unix", common commands:]
9227
9228	pico (text editor for beginners)
9229	vi (text editor for advanced users)
9230	emacs (text editor for advanced users)
9231	ed (text editor for beginners)
9232	%
9233	There is no reason in principle that a Perl script shouldn't start with
9234
9235	use Python;
9236
9237	and appear to work exactly like Python from there to the end of the file.
9238	Except maybe faster. :-)
9239
9240	Larry
9241	%
9242	> Perl6 gives us an opportunity to re-examine every feature at a microscopic level.
9243
9244	just what I'm afraid of... I thought this was to be Perl6, not Perl
9245	2010.
9246
9247	(Perl 2010: The Spaced Oddity?)
9248	%
9249	The X.25 specification is not a particularly easy document to
9250	read. Contrary to expectations, it does not make great use of diagrams
9251	and tables that help to explain the workings of the protocols that
9252	it contains. Instead the document makes use of many ambiguous English
9253	descriptions of the actions that should take place, allied with a complete
9254	lack of fluency in its prose descriptions, make for a very confusing
9255	document. It is a wonder that any correct X.25 implementations have ever
9256	been created.
9257	%
9258	> Joe: (walking into McDonalds) Hi, I'd like a Big Mac.
9259	>
9260	> Cashier: Okay, here's your Big Mac and here's your Coke. That'll be
9261	> $3.99.
9262	>
9263	> Joe: Uh, I don't want a Coke.
9264	>
9265	> Cashier: Sorry, they're bundled.
9266	>
9267	> Joe: What? I'm not paying for a Coke!
9268	>
9269	> Cashier: You don't; the Coke is free.
9270	>
9271	> Joe: But wasn't a Big Mac $2.49 last week?
9272	>
9273	> Cashier: Sure, but this latest Big Mac is far more innovative. It's
9274	> got integrated Coke!
9275	>
9276	> Joe: I already bought a Snapple across the street... I'm not going
9277	> to drink the Coke.
9278	>
9279	> Cashier: Then you can't have the burger.
9280	>
9281	> Joe: Okay, fine, I will pay the $3.99 and throw the Coke away.
9282	>
9283	> Cashier: Oh, you can't do that. They're seamlessly integrated. Totally
9284	> inseparable.
9285	>
9286	> Joe: How can that be? They're two totally separate things!
9287	>
9288	> Cashier: No, watch. (takes Big Mac, dunks it in a tank of Coke) See?
9289	>
9290	> Joe: Why did you just do that?!
9291	>
9292	> Cashier: It's a benefit to the consumer. Otherwise you'd end up with
9293	> two different, inconsistent tastes. This way you're assured of a
9294	> continuous taste across all your foods.
9295	%
9296	Threads are like salt. I like salt, you like salt, we all
9297	like salt, but we eat more pasta than salt.
9298	Rob Pike
9299	%
9300	From: Nathan Torkington <gnat@frii.com>
9301
9302	Don't be bitten by Perl, get crushed by Python.
9303	Python: Perl for the punctuation-phobic.
9304	It takes 4 days for a python to digest a hamster, but only 2 days
9305	for you to digest this book.
9306	Python: it's really better but nobody uses it.
9307	Python: just for the whitespace of it.
9308	Join The Trickle
9309	Python: more popular than Dylan!
9310	Python: not written by crackheads in a gutter!
9311	Are you uptight? Try our new Python Hangups series.
9312	%
9313	Well Microsoft announced this new language called COOL which I can
9314	honestly say that I have seen NO CRAPPY CODE written in. OTOH it appears
9315	that to achieve this miraculous status by the simple technique of being
9316	complete and utter vapourware.
9317
9318	Microsoft, taking the Business out of COBOL.
9319	%
9320	[From "Programming Perl"]
9321
9322	We will encourage you to develop the three great virtues of a
9323	programmer: laziness, impatience and hubris
9324	%
9325	[Alexander Stepanov, creator of the STL]:
9326
9327	Yes. STL is not object oriented. I think that object orientedness is
9328	almost as much of a hoax as Artificial Intelligence. I have yet to
9329	see an interesting piece of code that comes from these OO people. In
9330	a sense, I am unfair to AI: I learned a lot of stuff from the MIT AI
9331	Lab crowd, they have done some really fundamental work: Bill Gosper's
9332	Hakmem is one of the best things for a programmer to read. AI might
9333	not have had a serious foundation, but it produced Gosper and Stallman
9334	(Emacs), Moses (Macsyma) and Sussman (Scheme, together with Guy Steele). I
9335	find OOP technically unsound. It attempts to decompose the world in
9336	terms of interfaces that vary on a single type. To deal with the real
9337	problems you need multisorted algebras - families of interfaces that
9338	span multiple types. I find OOP philosophically unsound. It claims that
9339	everything is an object. Even if it is true it is not very interesting -
9340	saying that everything is an object is saying nothing at all. I find OOP
9341	methodologically wrong. It starts with classes. It is as if mathematicians
9342	would start with axioms. You do not start with axioms - you start with
9343	proofs. Only when you have found a bunch of related proofs, can you
9344	come up with axioms. You end with axioms. The same thing is true in
9345	programming: you have to start with interesting algorithms. Only when you
9346	understand them well, can you come up with an interface that will let them
9347	work.
9348	[...]
9349	You can't write a generic max() in Java that takes two arguments of some
9350	type and has a return value of that same type. Inheritance and interfaces
9351	don't help. And if they cannot implement max or swap or linear search,
9352	what chances do they have to implement really complex stuff? These are my
9353	litmus tests: if a language allows me to implement max and swap and linear
9354	search generically - then it has some potential.
9355	[...] Java is clearly an example of a money oriented programming (MOP).
9356	It might be successful - after all, MS DOS was - and it might be a
9357	profitable thing for all your readers to learn Java, but it has no
9358	intellectual value whatsoever.
9359
9360	[Later, on OMG protocols like CORBA]
9361	I am old enough to remember all the networking standards that were coming
9362	out in the seventies. Who remembers them now?
9363	%
9364	[Stiftung Warentest "test", WDR 19990419:]
9365	"Schlechtes muß nicht billig sein..."
9366	%
9367	[/bin/false on solaris]
9368	#!/usr/bin/sh
9369	# Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
9370	# All Rights Reserved
9371
9372	# THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
9373	# The copyright notice above does not evidence any
9374	# actual or intended publication of such source code.
9375
9376	#ident "@(#)false.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.3 */
9377	[obvious invocation of exit snipped to avoid lawsuit. Yup, 1 line.]
9378	%
9379	<Aspirin> but ee uses imlib, and imlib is documented to take 4.7 days to start up on a 486 by Alan Cox.
9380	%
9381	When a tar built for SunOS runs under Solaris, it's incapable of opening
9382	or creating files with "lib/locale" in the path. It replaces that part of
9383	the path with "lib/oldlocale".
9384	%
9385	[Bruce Schneier in CRYPTO-GRAM, 19990315]
9386
9387	"Microsoft prefers to treat security holes as a public relations problem,
9388	rather than fixing the actual problem."
9389
9390	[further down: the official answer from Microsoft about a problem where
9391	just viewing a website would invisibly run unrestricted code on your
9392	machine]
9393
9394	"Microsoft appreciates your input regarding this issue, however in lieu
9395	of modern technology being what it is, we all need to be personally
9396	responsible for knowing what we are downloading off the internet."
9397
9398	[see http://www.panix.com/~dfoster/sec/chrono.html]
9399	%
9400	[Steve Funston wrote to me, after I unsubscribed him from gimp-perl for
9401	spamming:]
9402
9403	>fuck you ass hole duh you are just a big fucker
9404	>>
9405	>>An error was generated by your request to our servers:
9406	>>------------------------------------------------------
9407	>>
9408	>>Your Email: bfunston@mich.com
9409	>>
9410	>>ERROR: You are not a member of this list.
9411
9412	[and later, misquoting my name:]
9413	>mark is not only a big fat liar but he is an ass hole.
9414	%
9415	[How much of the microsoft shares does Bill Gates hold?]
9416	He has 19.8%. Paul Allen has 5.5%. Steve Ballmer has 4.7%.
9417	%
9418	> And what's wrong with being named Peter?
9419	If linus was peter, Linux would be called penix? (just guessing) ;)
9420	%
9421	According to Microsoft KnowledgeBase article Q216641, Microsoft Windows
9422	95/98 are limited to an uptime of exactly 49.7 days.
9423
9424	--found by Vincent Janelle (Random)
9425	%
9426	> Leave that to RMS.
9427
9428	If you had just sat through the horrific panel with Larry,
9429	RMS, Richard, and Linus, you would want to leave a whole lot
9430	else to RMS -- like a couple of megatons of the manure that
9431	he's full of.
9432
9433	Support BSD/Linux.
9434
9435	--tom
9436	%
9437	"The FSF is a cult -- don't support them." --Rob Pike
9438	%
9439	We are Linux. Resistance is an indication that you missed the point.
9440	%
9441	> Perhaps the cracker himself (itself? ;) isn't bright enough to delete shell
9442	> history, but his shrink-wrapped cracking tools might be a lot brighter...
9443
9444	Some of them are. A surprising number aren't. A personal favorite of
9445	mine was the log from a cracker who couldn't figure out how to untar
9446	and install the trojan package he'd ftped onto the machine. he tried a
9447	few times, and then eventually gave up and logged out.
9448	%
9449	[on channel #gimp]
9450
9451	[msg(Xachbot)] insult me
9452	[XachBot(xachbot@home.xach.com)] schmorp: David Miller would never approve of that.
9453	%
9454	[the creation]
9455	http://www.toodarkpark.org/caffeine-cgi-bin/textfile/net-hx.txt
9456	%
9457	THE LESSER-KNOWN PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES #12: LITHP
9458
9459	This otherwise unremarkable language is distinguished by the absence of
9460	an "S" in its character set; users must substitute "TH". LITHP is said
9461	to be useful in protheththing lithtth.
9462	%
9463	Ich zog hier nur einen Pseudoschluss aus dieser sache, den ich nicht
9464	selbst schliesse.
9465	Norbert Harry Marzahn, selbsternannter "Judaaer"
9466	am 13.12.98 in de.alt.ufo
9467	%
9468	According to Gurusamy Sarathy:
9469	> "Resistance is futile, you will be modularized."
9470
9471	No:
9472
9473	use Borg;
9474	make_threat(-type => 'standard', -doom => 'modularized');
9475
9476	--
9477	Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
9478	%
9479	"And over here, ladies and gentlemen, may I draw your attention to
9480	the 'posicks box', a mechanism within one of the late 20th century
9481	sub-I hardware gestalt integration agents (then called 'operating
9482	systems', this particular one being referred to as 'windows' by
9483	its commercial-mimetic sustainer), designed so as to provide the
9484	appearance and functionality required to comply with one of the few
9485	agreed-upon integration schemas (sub-I, of course) available at the
9486	time. Unsurprising given the non-integration imperitives used by the
9487	agent's sustainter, this mechanism was demonstrated to be an ingenious
9488	non-integration ploy that, while supporting the integration schema,
9489	failed to support the local interconnect schemas that this agent
9490	specialized in. This produced a classic focus rift in the knowledge
9491	pool, benefiting the sustainer in the short run due to the focus
9492	concentration facilities available to commericial-class mimetic
9493	sustainers. Practically, this wasn't a significant loss, in the long
9494	run, as neither the 'windows' or 'posicks' schemas were relevant to
9495	modern quasi-I agents. These two do live on, however, in a few niches.
9496	'posicks' is used as the integration schema between most nano-scale
9497	logic units (a fact that only a few meta-experts still need to be
9498	aware of), and 'windows' survives, for religious-mimetic reasons, as
9499	the human-communication agent in a few stereotypical toasters and soap
9500	dispensers."
9501
9502	[Kenneth Albanowski]
9503	%
9504	Perl ist ein Schmerzmittel.
9505	Wenn Du bei der Speicherverwaltung oder der Stringverarbeitung
9506	unter C Schmerzen hast, nimm Perl.
9507	-- Kristian Koehntopp
9508	%
9509	> Why Windows NT Server 4.0 continues to exist in the enterprise would be a
9510	> topic appropriate for an investigative report in the field of psychology or
9511	> marketing, not an article on information technology -- John Kirch
9512	%
9513	[bei einer mündlichen Nachprüfung in BWL, Uni Hamburg]
9514
9515	Prof: "Was ist Agio?"
9516	Student: "Weiß ich nicht."
9517	Prof: "OK, durchgefallen!
9518	Student: "Ich habe aber Anspruch auf drei Fragen in der mündlichen Prüfung!"
9519	Prof: "Klar, was ist Disagio?"
9520	Student: "..."
9521	Prof: "...und was ist der Unterschied zwischen Agio und Disagio?"
9522	Student: "..."
9523	Prof: "...durchgefallen!"
9524	%
9525	Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@pobox.com> writes:
9526
9527	> Just morbid curiosity,
9528	>
9529	> Are there _any_ unix boxes that _can't_ build Perl?
9530
9531	Yes. Broken ones.
9532
9533	dgris
9534	%
9535	"The kerastion is a musical instrument which cannot be heard."
9536	-- A Borges story in ten words.
9537	%
9538	"C combines the power of assembly language
9539	with the flexibility of assembly language."
9540	%
9541	...
9542
9543	<AOL>
9544
9545	Me too!
9546
9547	</AOL>
9548
9549	Tig
9550	%
9551	ping -p 2b2b2b415448300d <hostname>
9552	%
9553	unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck;more;yes;umount;sleep
9554	%
9555	From: Dick Balaska <dick@buckosoft.com>
9556
9557	I sit behind an NT dual P2/400 256MB for too many hours each day. It is
9558	"slow". One of my (fun) tasks is CD mastering. When i'm loading a 500MB
9559	wav file into the editor, the machine goes useless for two minutes while
9560	loading the wave file. Basically its just reading the file and writing it
9561	to swap. The CPU is at 5%. No Alt-Tab between apps during that time. No
9562	chance of putting the mouse over a button (too many dropped ticks). The
9563	NT kernel is just sitting waiting for I/O completions.
9564
9565	Linux would be embarrassed to be that bad.
9566
9567	I expected M$ to never fix this because its not "broken". However, i
9568	expect billg to start reading the above mentioned literal benchmarks and
9569	get really really pissed.
9570
9571	Especially since i believe 1999 and 2000 to see Linux really start
9572	to cut into M$'s server market share.
9573	%
9574	> Hello I'm wondering if there's a lower traffic mailing list that exists
9575	> that's strictly important kernel announcements and not general chat. I
9576	> need to stay informed but I can't handle 250 messages in a 24 hour
9577	> period.
9578	>
9579	> Sorry for the insignificant post..
9580	> Nic
9581	>
9582
9583	Thank you for contributing to the problem.
9584
9585	-hpa
9586	%
9587	grep... grep... grep... (frog with unix stuck in his throat)
9588	%
9589	"If users are made to understand that the system administrator's job is to
9590	make computers run, and not to make them happy, they can, in fact, be made
9591	happy most of the time. If users are allowed to believe that the system
9592	administrator's job is to make them happy, they can, in fact, never be made
9593	happy."
9594	- - -Paul Evans (as quoted by Barb Dijker in "Managing Support Staff", LISA '97)
9595	%
9596	From: "Daniel P. Stasinski" <dannys@KAREMOR.COM>
9597	Subject: Microsoft Hotmail
9598	To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG
9599
9600	I contacted Microsoft/Hotmail asking them to close the account
9601	of that was listed in the backdoored tcp wrapper source code.
9602	I also forwarded the offending code.
9603
9604	The word back from them is that they will not close it. Theft
9605	of passwords and hacking does not violate thier terms of
9606	service.
9607
9608	Daniel
9609	%
9610	Any UNIX-killer must also have:
9611	...
9612	* cool name like Linux (serious, these fail: GNU Hurd FreeBSD 386BSD)
9613	%
9614	"Not all things worth doing are worth doing well."
9615	It's a phrase I use a lot. :-)
9616	[RJL]
9617	%
9618	As John Whittaker says: ``It's UNIX. That doesn't necessarily mean it's
9619	right.''
9620	%
9621	[Richard Stallman on the new _Pragma operator in C9X:]
9622
9623	Amazing--they actually listened.
9624	%
9625	That "UNIX" term is very negative. People often associate it with
9626	SCO OpenServer, Wyse terminals, and 60 people on a 386. The UNIX
9627	that people know is just awful. It looks something like this:
9628
9629	# less foo
9630	sh: command not found
9631	# more foo
9632	sh: command not found
9633	# emacs foo
9634	sh: command not found
9635	# ed foo
9636	0
9637	help
9638	?
9639	quit
9640	?
9641	exit
9642	?
9643	DIE!!!!!!!!!!
9644	?
9645
9646	[Albert D. Cahalan]
9647	%
9648	Subject: Re: Stop blib warning in future releases?
9649	From: andreas.koenig@anima.de (Andreas J. Koenig)
9650	Date: 05 Jan 1999 03:15:37 +0100
9651
9652	tim> Sure. Strictly speaking
9653
9654	tim> use blib ':quiet';
9655
9656	tim> would be most correct in style.
9657
9658	Only German native speakers are allowed to treat adverbs adjectively.
9659	For the rest I'd recommend [...]
9660	%
9661	[A new U.S. Law implementing a WIPO treaty]
9662	No person shall circumvent a technological protection measure that
9663	effectively controls access to a work protected under this title
9664	[Or, in other words, applied cryptanalysis will be illegal.
9665	too bad --- ]
9666	%
9667	Microsoft - Is it going to work today?
9668	%
9669	Subject: Re: [gimp-devel] GIF plugin legal issues
9670
9671	> Actually, my understanding is that Unisys doesn't currently enforce the
9672	> licensing cost on free software, but maybe I am mistaken.
9673
9674	The general wording, spoken by an unnamed GIMP developer, is, if you'll
9675	pardon the language, "Unisys can go fuck itself."
9676	%
9677	[once on linux-kernel:]
9678	> >who are you why on yahoo when iprint sf16fmi i fond you i need drv
9679	> Does anyone have the secret decoder ring to make sense of this?
9680	he's confused about us showing up in a search match on yahoo, but needs
9681	driver(s) for his sf16fmi thingy.
9682	%
9683	> Did you try to compile kdeadmin from the CVS tree ?
9684
9685	No I ran the KDE binaries. Im not interested in broken programs that
9686	include wrong #include files in their source.
9687	%
9688	[unix-faq]
9689
9690	Someday, you are going to accidentally type something like
9691	"rm * .foo", and find you just deleted "" instead of ".foo".
9692	Consider it a rite of passage.
9693	%
9694	"There's one word that strikes fear into nuclear scientists..."
9695	"Oops."
9696	-- MST3K
9697	%
9698	Seems like 80-bit spills would be closer to IEEE, if not close enough to
9699	claim full support. Off-hand I'd say people would be happier with
9700	those numeric properties than with the current situation.
9701
9702	I'll think about the esoterica (probably break down and ask people here).
9703	It would certainly make gcc the most reliable x86 floating-point compiler
9704	I know. Sun's does something similar to -ffloat-store by default (gee,
9705	look at how fast that ultra is), and Microsoft's runs off the end of the
9706	stack at run-time . I don't know what Intel's does, so I'm not considering
9707	it. ;)
9708	%
9709	>I was using the localtime function to change time_t into it's various
9710	>human-readable parts. I noticed that $year gets returned as 98 and
9711	>not 1998. I tested a few different unices and got the same result.
9712	>This is expected behavior based on the examples I've seen and my own
9713	>testing. My question is how is this y2k compliant?
9714
9715	What part of your C library's documentation on localtime(3), the perlfunc
9716	documentation on the Perl localtime function, the perlfaq4 entry on `Does
9717	Perl have a year 2000 problem?', and the Y2K document on www.perl.com
9718	did you find to be unclear on the answer to this question?
9719
9720	--tom
9721	%
9722	> * Have you ever wondered how life began ?
9723
9724	In a laboratory somewhere at Bell Labs.
9725
9726	>Why does it end ?
9727
9728	Ask the X3J11 committee.
9729
9730	> * Can you tell WHY there is life ? What is the purpose of it ?
9731	> * Can YOU do anything to make your life worth living ? WHAT ?
9732
9733	To promote the the DEATH OF ANSI C! K+R FOREVER! DOWN WITH PORTABILITY!
9734	%
9735	"Unix is Perl's IDE!"
9736	-- Tom Christiansen
9737	%
9738	[Sputnik]
9739
9740	Do you honestly think the Americans would mention a Soviet success? :-)
9741	A number of years back I saw an exhibition in the US on the development of
9742	supersonic passenger aircraft. They forgot to mention Concorde. It
9743	wouldn't surprise me in the least if most people at NASA had never heard
9744	of Sputnik.
9745	%
9746	NTFS by default adds unnecessary serialization to an extent that
9747	even older file systems such as FFS do not, and its performance
9748	characteristics reflect that. In fairness, it should be said that it is
9749	the superior approach for most removable media without software control
9750	of ejection (e.g. IBM PC floppies).
9751	%
9752	Never attribute to malice what could as well be explained by stupidity.
9753	- Hanlons razor -
9754	%
9755	Shallit's Razor: Never attribute to conspiracy what may be adequately
9756	explained by stupidity or incompetence.
9757	%
9758	According to Chris Nandor:
9759	> I thought about creating a web interface to input, edit, delete entries,
9760	> but that would have taken me longer, been more complex and less secure, and
9761	> offered no significant advantages.
9762
9763	That one's in the quotes file. Thanks.
9764	%
9765	My friend who had a Compaq called one day when his built-in cdrom drive
9766	stopped responding. Their answer "its a virus. Reinstal Windows". So he did
9767	(?) and it still didn't work. He called them and they said "its a virus,
9768	reinstall." "But I just installed. If there is a virus, it came from YOUR
9769	quick restore disk." "No, no virus there, but you DO have a virus. My paper
9770	in front of me says so."
9771
9772	He took it back and bought a Gateway.
9773	%
9774	9. Deinde, ne in posterum a XII kalendas aprilis aequinoctium recedat,
9775	statuimus bissextum quarto quoque anno (uti mos est) continuari debere,
9776	praeterquam in centesimis annis; qui, quamvis bissextiles antea semper
9777	fuerint, qualem etiam esse volumus annum MDC, post eum tamen qui
9778	deinceps consequentur centesimi non omnes bissextiles sint, sed in
9779	quadringentis quibusque annis primi quique tres centesimi sine bissexto
9780	transigantur, quartus vero quisque centesimus bissextilis sit, ita ut
9781	annus MDCC, MDCCC, MDCCCC bissextiles non sint. Anno vero MM, more
9782	consueto dies bissextus intercaletur, februario dies XXIX continente,
9783	idemque ordo intermittendi intercalandique bissextum diem in
9784	quadringentis quibusque annis perpetuo conservetur.
9785	%
9786	You obviously have not dealt with Microsoft Winnt 4.0
9787	and all the Service Pack then. While one Service Pack
9788	did somewhat correct the Y2K problem was not aware that
9789	2000 was in fact a leap year. There was no way to set
9790	the date to Feb 29, 2000.
9791	%
9792	"Ernst Lehmann, die Organisationsredundanz beim Cluster-Treffen"
9793	%
9794	HP Computer NEWS 3/98 about HP 2000/CN printer (page 24): "Darüber
9795	hinaus ... hat der HP 2000C/CN durch den Einsatz von Intel MMX-
9796	Technologie Zugriff auf deren Farbtabellen und kann so Farbbilder
9797	schneller verarbeiten" (A mistake made when translating. It's hard to
9798	get the wrong meaning if translated back to English, sorry.)
9799	%
9800	From: Robert Lipe
9801	> > I program computers with no screens and no keyboards for a living.
9802	> > Switches and front-panels are a LUXURY! :-)
9803	>
9804	> But I guess you are not _programming_ these computers without a keyboard
9805	> and/or screen.
9806
9807	Are you familiar with the Vulcan Mind Meld?
9808	%
9809	Subject: Re: [fwd from comp.lang.python] Re: Python 2 ideas [Re: access
9810	From: Tuomas Lukka <lukka@fas.harvard.edu>
9811
9812	On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
9813	> use pedantic;
9814	> use strict 'code';
9815	>
9816	> or whatever is the syntax to switch Perl into 'dull'/'pythonish' mode.
9817
9818	use syntax 'python';
9819
9820	Let's just embrace&extend'em ;) ;)
9821
9822	%
9823	Thus it was written in the epistle of Larry Wall,
9824	>
9825	> Having discussed all this thoroughly at the Hacker's Conference this
9826	> past weekend, I've come to the conclusion that Y2K will be traumatic
9827	> primarily because people think it will be traumatic. A panic is a
9828	> panic whether or not it's justified. People get trampled in panics.
9829	>
9830	> It should be illegal to yell "Y2K" in a crowded economy. :-)
9831	%
9832	[rfc1925]
9833	Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick any two (you can't have all three).
9834	%
9835	[Alan Cox, why not port hurd to sgi, instead of linux]
9836	> A possible minus is the message-passing between the servers which might
9837	> be time-consuming.
9838
9839	"Yesterdays technology, next week" to quote an OSI saying
9840	%
9841	UNIX versions of ctags handle the C language, and often Pascal and Fortran
9842	77. Sometimes, they even handle assembly language. Almost universally,
9843	however, they do not handle C++...
9844	[from "learning the vi editor"]
9845	%
9846	> correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a thread about this a few
9847	> months back that resolved the ping -f localhost as a ping bug.
9848
9849	Indeed, as Alan Cox said:
9850
9851	So get a non-buggy ping(8) client.
9852
9853	and as Ecclesiastes said:
9854
9855	Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been
9856	already of old time, which was before us.
9857	There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any
9858	remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
9859
9860	Regards,
9861	Tigran.
9862	%
9863	SNMP stands for Security Not My Problem
9864	%
9865	[slightly broken, though...]
9866	/* "Hello World" in B for 64-bit hardware! */
9867	hw [0] "Hello World.*n";
9868	main(){
9869	extrn hw;
9870	putchar(0[hw]);
9871	hw=+1;
9872	putchar(0[hw]);
9873	}
9874	%
9875	> So what comes first the chicken or the egg? :)
9876
9877	The egg. Always. By definition.
9878	%
9879	> > PPS: Robert, I just made my first y2k fix to that script ;()
9880	>
9881	> Better check your scsi cables.
9882	%
9883	Arroganz durch Wissen
9884	[Dirk Jagdmann]
9885	%
9886	[Re: Pegasus - Gut oder Boese?]
9887	> Weil er sie dabei ja unterstuetzt. Da er aber (abgesehen von den ersten
9888	> ein- oder zweimal) nur auf Anrufen von Rosa-Girl erscheint, koennte man es
9889	> auch anders herum sagen. wenn CU Pfeift, kommt er angaloppiert 8))
9890
9891	was aber leider bedeutet, daß usa die Rennsemmel ständig mit
9892	sich rumschleppen mu?. ^_-
9893	Nur weil die Kleine die Bimmel hat!
9894
9895	Und wer weiß, was dieses pädophile Pferd eigentlich noch so
9896	bezwecken will... ^_-
9897	%
9898	>James :\
9899	>
9900	>I apologize for adding a message to this possibly trivial thread.
9901
9902	I like your sig. I hope you use it for everything you post.
9903	%
9904	From: Mason <mason@schwanda.resnet.tamu.edu>
9905	Subject: night of the undead ip stack
9906	Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:03:19 -0600 (CST)
9907	%
9908	> The person who decides to invent UNICODE support for Linux
9909	> is just asking for a black eye.
9910
9911	But Unicode for NT is such fun!
9912
9913	For example, the checked DbgPrint() bluescreens above DISPATCH_LEVEL
9914	if you try to print a Unicode string--the Unicode->ASCII
9915	translation tables are marked as pageable.
9916
9917	Since as far as I know, printk() does not have any format specifiers
9918	that cause obscure kernel panics, Linux is clearly behind in this
9919	area.
9920	%
9921	Linux: a no problem operating system for no problem people.
9922	[Lukas Grunwald]
9923	%
9924	http://dd.sh/perlfs/:
9925
9926	THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL (PRE-ALPHA) VERSION OF THE PERL FILESYSTEM.
9927	EVEN WHEN IT LOADS WITHOUT CAUSING A KERNEL PANIC, IT WILL LOCK UP
9928	YOUR MACHINE, DESTROY ALL YOUR DATA, KIDNAP YOUR FAMILY AND
9929	(DEPENDING ON SAID FAMILY'S CONFIGURATION) SHOOT YOUR CAT, DOG, AND/OR
9930	FIRST-BORN CHILD.
9931	%
9932	[a comment on http://dd.sh/perlfs/]
9933	Forget GNU/Linux. /PerL/inux will conquer all.
9934
9935	kill 0,1 if -x '/PerL/inux'; # request kernel mode
9936	%
9937	[Tim Hollebeek on real arithmetic]
9938	On a machine with a sane floating point model, the results make sense.
9939	For example, my SGI workstation prints:
9940
9941	0.00000000000000011102 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000020000 1.00000000000000040000
9942
9943	However, a machine with the Intel FPU from hell gives:
9944
9945	0.00000000000000000005 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000
9946
9947	due to the fact that whether 1+x and 1 are the same number depends on whether
9948	the numbers are in the FPU or not.
9949	%
9950	[Grüner Tip/Arte]
9951	Ihre Nachbarn sind zu laut und feiern andauernd Parties? Kein Problem, ihr
9952	Bohrer wird nachts um zwei spielend mit _jedem_ Lärm fertig....
9953	%
9954	Remember, eating healthy doesn't make you live longer, it just makes it seem
9955	longer...
9956	%
9957	[M$ about unix development tools like GCC]
9958	By the standards of the novice / intermediate developer accustomed to
9959	VB/VS/VC/VJ, these tools are incredibly primitive.
9960	%
9961	> > Praha is nice and our university is interesting, since it is according
9962	> > to tests most complex and impractical computer science university on the
9963	> > world :) I just love it...
9964	>
9965	> Oh well, great that I won't be studying there...
9966	>
9967	It is really fun.... just now I have lesson (that reminds me that I really
9968	should go now) about set theory and infinity... it is really fun and very
9969	practical...
9970	for example that you have cinema with infinity chairs and infinity plus one
9971	person wants to see movie... what do yo do?
9972	Just let sit down the first infinity persons and then last person ask first
9973	one to move to second chair, second one to move to third and so on and
9974	everyone fits.. isn't that great to know? :))
9975
9976	Jan Hubicka
9977	%
9978	> template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> A {};
9979	[...]
9980	> I think that this construction is allowed by the ANSI C++.
9981
9982	No, it is not. What you meant is
9983
9984	template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> class A {};
9985	%
9986	Jan Dubois writes:
9987	> A) perl-5.00553
9988	> path = \perl\5.00553\bin\MsWin32-x86\perl.exe
9989	> cc = cl.exe
9990	A performance analysis compiling with M$ compiler? Get real!
9991
9992	[...]
9993
9994	Ilya
9995	%
9996	>Shouldn't the kernel compile with all combinations of options.
9997
9998	Yes. Feel free to fix it and send a patch.
9999
10000	p.
10001	%
10002	[tomc]
10003	Jean-Louis provides four arguments in favor of the overloading of the
10004	logical && and \|\| operators. Here they are:
10005
10006	+------------------------------------------+
10007	\| Other languages, notably C++, permit it. \|
10008	+------------------------------------------+
10009
10010	This one is hardly persuasive. Many languages do innumerable things
10011	that Perl does not do. Just for example, take:
10012
10013	* Csh reparses and re-evals interpolated strings, allowing something
10014	like C<$cmd $var> to do interesting things.
10015	* The Fortran lexer (as it were), having no need of white space to
10016	infer tokens, allows C<DO I=1.10> and C<DO I=1,10> to coexist in an
10017	interesting way.
10018	* Icon has an entirely different notion of success and failure,
10019	allowing expressions like (X < Y < Z) to do interesting things.
10020	* Scheme has call-with-continuation, allowing co-routines to do
10021	interesting things.
10022	* C++ has template classes with abnormal typing rules even for that
10023	language, allowing parameterized meta-classes to do interesting
10024	things.
10025	%
10026	Make is like Pascal: everybody likes it, so they go in and change it.
10027	--Dennis Ritchie
10028	%
10029	perl -wlpe '}{$_=$.' file # Count the number of lines.
10030	%
10031	[not quite duff's device, but...]
10032
10033	switch (x)
10034	default:
10035	if (prime(x))
10036	case 2: case 3: case 5: case 7:
10037	process_prime(x);
10038	else
10039	case 4: case 6: case 8: case 9: case 10:
10040	process_composite(x);
10041	%
10042	Is there any truth to the rumor that the number appearing
10043	after the words "Microsoft Windows" is the minimum amount of memory,
10044	in megabytes, required for execution?
10045
10046	Craig Milo Rogers
10047	%
10048	Mark Mielke writes:
10049	> This statement is false. The simple fact that school textbooks teach it
10050	> to be indeterminate should be enough to convince you of that.
10051
10052	This is just another reference point about the state of education in
10053	US (apparently in Canada too?).
10054
10055	Ilya
10056	%
10057	[from p5p]
10058	> Now you know why threading is experimental and all, buddy.
10059
10060	Experimental schexperimental. Anything that doesn't cause an
10061	immediate coredump is not experimental. :-) (Observant readers will
10062	note that this is a more rigorous standard than Microsoft's.)
10063
10064	Nat
10065	%
10066	Needless to say, Linux awk is probably gawk, which has been taking too
10067	much steroids for a while. =)
10068
10069	--Albert Dvornik
10070	<bert@genscan.com>
10071	%
10072	Subject: Re: zero width lookbehind considered slow
10073	From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@jhereg.perl.com>
10074	Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:40:37 -0500
10075
10076	>You do not understand? Perl is slow...
10077
10078	Ilya: You are formerly invited to go play in the python
10079	or tcl crowd instead of here.
10080
10081	--tom
10082	%
10083	>What's it? Can linux be improved too? Or has it already been improved?
10084
10085	Linux has never done anything so stupid in the first place.
10086
10087	Linus
10088	%
10089	On the 8th day god created email. And got noted the world was good. Then the
10090	devil added HTML mail...
10091	%
10092	linux/lib/vsprintf.c: * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds fucked it up :-)
10093	linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/binfmt_aout32.c: /* Fuck me plenty... */
10094	linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/ptrace.c:/* Fuck me gently with a chainsaw... */
10095	%
10096	On 1998-10-11T02:37:57,
10097	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> said:
10098
10099	> Believe me Microsoft think Linux is a threat now. Its level with things like
10100	> java in their perceived threat list, so you can expect all the usual MS
10101	> techniques to start coming this way and very soon.
10102
10103	Arm the gnus!
10104	%
10105	[David Miller after (another) endless discussion with Richard Kenner]
10106
10107	Anyways, I tired (just like everyone else) of arguing endlessly with
10108	you, you're in the past, you no longer constrain my ability to improve
10109	gcc, so go away.
10110	%
10111	I received my copy of Visual Studio 6.0 today. I couldn't believe that it
10112	wanted to install the C++ compiler into a directory called:
10113
10114	"\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98"
10115
10116	But anyways, I just had to find out if it was finally possible to compile
10117	Perl (without PERL_OBJECT) with optimization (-O2).
10118	%
10119	[on perl version numbering]
10120	> So it could be 5.006 for the developers, but "ThreadPerl" or "Perl with
10121	> Multithreads" (or some such) for the journalists, if that's what
10122	> journalists need to make them pay attention.
10123
10124	Down that path lies "Perl version 5.006, codename `Ticklish Uvula',
10125	was released today" madness.
10126	%
10127	[on perl version numbering]
10128	> elaine> 5.1 would be a good thing(tm) as it would draw attention,
10129	> elaine> etc. in a way that a developers versioning would. The
10130	> elaine> world is not populated by people who think the same
10131	> elaine> way. To that end, this would be a good change. Of course,
10132	> elaine> we could call it Perl99.
10133	>
10134	> To me, Perl seems to be recognized for it's language qualities, not
10135	> for marketing reasons. IMHO, perl may keep this difference with other
10136	> wintel product. More than that : Perl99, would let believe people that
10137	> it is not Y2K proofed, or still in beta (<1.00). So it's not a good
10138	> marketing name, anyway.
10139
10140	Right. Then, to be Y2K compliant, we'll have to call it Perl1999. Hmmm.
10141	"The year perl left earth's orbit"? Maybe we need to get the NASA guys to
10142	put perl on the next low-cost spaceshot.
10143
10144	Of course, then c.l.p.m's motto could be "We do not commit mindless
10145	violence..." :-)
10146	%
10147	Rule 1 says that Larry says that Larry has the last say, unless he changes
10148	his mind in which case he still has the last say.
10149	%
10150	> >I never said it did.. I should have said: Binary only drivers encourage
10151	> >poor drivers
10152	>
10153	> No it doesn't.
10154
10155	Indeed. Its down to
10156
10157	Profit = (units * margin) - overhead
10158
10159	and the folks who decide "overhead" arent the programmers but the management.
10160	The folks who say "you have two weeks allocated to write this driver, then
10161	we ship it" are the folks to take the issue up with, and that goes source
10162	or binaries.
10163	%
10164	dig txt leap.yp.to
10165	%
10166	"The fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that nobody's after me..."
10167	%
10168	[linux-kernel on endianess issues with NIPQUAD]
10169
10170	\|> Do I read this correct?!? Is it more acceptable to have a bug[*],
10171	\|> than a not optimal fix?!?!?
10172	\|>
10173	\|> s/optimal/stupid/
10174
10175	What's stupid is little endian. <g>
10176
10177	Andreas.
10178	%
10179	[Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
10180	...
10181	A closely related question is `What is 1 minute before 23:59:60?''.
10182
10183	Here's a good one: `What is 1 month before 1 February 1995 in
10184	Kiritimati?''. There was no 1 January 1995 in Kiritimati; they
10185	skipped a day by moving the clocks ahead 24 hours. Similar issues
10186	arise when asking about times that occur within smaller, more typical
10187	UTC offset changes. A number of obscure questions arise here, and I'm
10188	not sure it's worth standardizing all the answers.
10189	%
10190	[D.J.Bernstein on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
10191
10192	Paul Eggert writes:
10193	> which I am calling the `modified TIME_TAI''
10194
10195	Your time differences break down near leap seconds. Ever watched xntpd
10196	try to handle a leap second? Wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble.
10197	%
10198	For binary only drivers you can assume most vendors will build x86 only
10199	however.
10200
10201	"We don't have the tools"
10202	"We can't support a non intel build"
10203	"We don't have that sort of machine"
10204	"Its not worth the time cost"
10205	"Whats an Alpha ?"
10206	%
10207	On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote:
10208
10209	> The original message was received at Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:39:56 -0400
10210	> from mini [10.0.0.3]
10211	>
10212	> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
10213	> <mailproc@fred>
10214	>
10215	> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
10216	> procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
10217	> procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
10218	> procmail: can't load library 'libc.so.5'
10219	> 554 <mailproc@fred>... unknown mailer error 16
10220	%
10221	> Here is the difficulty with this discussion:
10222	> No documented problem
10223	> No reason to believe that the "solution" solves the unspecified "problem"
10224	> No clear understanding of the effects of this change on the system
10225	>
10226	> Why, this could be a discusion among AIX developers!
10227	%
10228	> This would be a reasonable committee-like compromise that might
10229	> satisfy neither of us (:-).
10230	%
10231	By default Microsoft has set Explorer to use gz files as VRML, you need to
10232	change the association for .gz / vrml from "start vrml program" to "always ask"
10233
10234	dave
10235	%
10236	On 10 Aug 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
10237	DG> You're not programming MS-DOS applications are you?
10238
10239	BP> Hell no. I wouldn't touch MS-DOS with a ten-foot network cable.
10240	%
10241	[Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
10242
10243	Date: 10 Oct 1998 15:35:05 -0000
10244	From: "D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>
10245
10246	Paul Eggert writes:
10247	> * 29 February if it's a leap lear, 28 February otherwise.
10248
10249	If that's 1 month before 31 March, then what's 1 month before 30 March?
10250	1 month before 29 March?
10251
10252	The same as 1 month before 31 March.
10253
10254	1 month before 28 March?
10255
10256	28 February.
10257
10258	And what's 1 month after 28 February? 1 month after 27 February? 1 month
10259	_before_ 27 February?
10260
10261	28 March, 27 March, and 27 January.
10262	%
10263	Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
10264
10265	>Nils Goesche wrote:
10266	>> So make a security check first:
10267	>>
10268	>> if (status = UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK)
10269	>> launch_full_counterstrike();
10270	>
10271	>Hmmm. The way the worlds been going lately, AI wouldn't trust that code to
10272	>do the job. Here's the revised version:
10273	>
10274	>if(status == UNDER_NULEAR_ATTACK); /* Corrected dangerous
10275	> = instead of == error*/
10276	> launch_full_counterstrike();
10277	>
10278	>Now isn't that much more reliable?
10279	>
10280	>--
10281	>Email: cyrand@hotmail.com
10282
10283	The following variant is less reliable but much safer:
10284
10285	if (status == UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK); /* Correct dangerous
10286	launch_full_counterstrike (); = instead == error */
10287	%
10288	It is even more cheerful than that. Not so long time ago a customers
10289	of ours totally destroyed his NT installation on Alpha.
10290
10291	He found on a manufacturer page, no money - for a download, "NT driver"
10292	for his particular piece of a hardware. So he followed instructions
10293	to the letter - "Installation Wizzard" and all that crap - and the thing
10294	happily installed clobbering, as it is customary in these circles,
10295	essential system libraries with its own versions. The catch was that
10296	this driver was for NT/Intel and these bozos did not even bother to
10297	check for an architecture or at least mention something in some blurb.
10298	Ooops! No chance even to try to boot anymore.
10299
10300	The saving grace was that the installation was rather new, so loses
10301	were not big, and he had an opportunity to practice an essential skill
10302	of re-installing Windows NT. Ah, and yes, this was the only NT driver
10303	available for that hardware from any source.
10304	What do you plan on doing? Using a PA system for networking? :)
10305	Whats next? A Smell modem? It would bring a new meaning to packet
10306	sniffing!
10307	%
10308	"I'd rather spend 10 hours reading source code than 10 minutes on a
10309	technical support line that isn't"
10310	%
10311	[from linux-kernel]
10312	`This code fills 8 million seats, we therefore decide what's standard.''
10313	%
10314	[...]
10315	And especially with new machines users have a lot of clout. Several UK
10316	suppliers now carry Buslogic cards partly because they got fed up of
10317
10318	"I'd like to order a dual PII/300, 256Mb of RAM, 17" monitor
10319	4 4Gig IBM disks, and a buslogic scsi controller"
10320	"We dont do buslogic only adaptec"
10321	"Nothing else"
10322	"Sorry"
10323	[Click]
10324
10325	Alan
10326	%
10327	Fünfzig Prozent der Amerikaner wurden in ihrer Kindheit sexuell mißbraucht,
10328	während weitere fünfzig Prozent von Außerirdischen entführt wurden.
10329	%
10330	> Let's not forget that this is just an informal, free
10331	> software project. Unlke the US House of Representatives
10332	> we do not yet posess nuclear capability (certain RTEMS
10333	> users excepted, of course!).
10334
10335	Hmmm, if some RTEMS users have nuclear facilities attached to their
10336	systems, they might be well advised to be careful using FORTRAN as
10337	their language of choice. The comp.lang.fortran FAQ states (with
10338	concurrence from resident X3J3 members) that "using a non-standard
10339	construct might start WW III, if the necessary (optional) hardware
10340	is installed"
10341
10342	[Toon Moene in private discussion]
10343	%
10344	Newsgroups: alt.config
10345
10346	L. Harris wrote:
10347	>
10348	> Testing
10349
10350	you failed.
10351	%
10352	Roswell {Unit 6 of 5 Sam Borg} Coverup [Rev. joWazzoo - well mannered despammer]
10353	<JOWazzoo@WhiteICE.com> at We are Sam Borg Spam Assimilators Ltd. - Area 51 HQ
10354	%
10355	Perl is really designed more for the guys that will hack Perl at least
10356	20 minutes a day for the rest of their career. TCL/Python is more a
10357	"20 minutes a week", and VB is probably in that "20 minutes a month"
10358	group. :) -- Randal Schwartz
10359	%
10360	> alternative, when it comes to stability and power...Not to mention the
10361	> fact that bugs and fixes are very quickly available and don't come in
10362	> 18MB+ "Service Packs" :).
10363
10364	What, you mean you _paid_ for service pack '98?
10365	%
10366	We got this INTERNET because we whan't more information ( to learn ) now it
10367	seem's people can't handle what they see. You say freedom is a mater of
10368	choice (well it is) you have the freedom to choose to carry your butt some
10369	where else...
10370	%
10371	Steve Orzel (phloam@vol.com) wrote:
10372	[...]
10373	: The purpose of the newsgroup is to help out other people that have questions
10374	: about a certain topic.
10375	%
10376	Mark Robinson wrote:
10377	>
10378	> Does any have any source code to games that I can have? Does anybody
10379	> know where I can get game sources(legally)?
10380
10381	Here's the trial version of the three-room text adventure I'm going to
10382	write. I'm not finished yet, though.
10383
10384	void main (void)
10385	{
10386	printf ("You are in a dark room.\n");
10387	printf ("\n");
10388	printf ("You feel a sharp pain.\n");
10389	printf ("You have died.\n");
10390	printf ("\n");
10391	printf ("!!! GAME OVER !!!");
10392	}
10393
10394	(Don't tell, but I took some of the code from Quake.)
10395
10396	--
10397	John Kugelman. kugelman@mnsinc.com
10398	%
10399	[mail I got after releasing a zip-password cracker, the second biggest
10400	mistake I ever made]
10401
10402	From: "Tom Miller"
10403	Subject: Can
10404	X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
10405
10406	Hay man can you send me some hacking tips and tricks please
10407	send to kymmiller@bigpond.com
10408	my name is Tom Miller
10409
10410	From: "Tom Miller"
10411	Subject: Wait
10412	X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
10413
10414	Hey man its Tom can you also send me any easy systems to hack and the
10415	passwords also send me any infomation about hacking websites thank you
10416	%
10417	From: lm@bitmover.com (Larry McVoy)
10418
10419	[...] then think a little before flaming. Or better yet, produce something
10420	better. Flaming is easy but it is basically masturbation without the orgasm
10421	so why bother? [...]
10422	%
10423	Günter Höns <guenter.hoens@gmd.de>
10424
10425	Newsgroups: de.alt.ufo
10426
10427	Offensichtlich ist noch keinem das Wasser-Wachstum aufgefallen, das sogar
10428	jeden Tag geschieht. Jeden Tag waechst der Wasserberg im Meer um mehrere
10429	Meter, ist dann naeher an der Sonne und verdunstet dann. Sogenannte
10430	Wissenschaftler haben eine abenteuerliche Theorie ueber den Einfluss des
10431	Mondes auf dieses Wachstum aufgestellt, aber inzwischen wissen wir es
10432	besser: Die Wasser-Molekuele werden von Neutrinos getroffen, und verdoppeln
10433	sich dann.
10434	%
10435	CRASH(8)
10436	no fs
10437	A device has disappeared from the mounted-device table.
10438	Definitely hardware or software error.
10439
10440	Unix Version 7 Manual
10441	%
10442	On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Larry Wall wrote:
10443	>
10444	> Maybe Pi looks like this:
10445	>
10446	> =for C
10447	> i++; /* add 1 to i */
10448	> =end
10449	> =for C++
10450	> i.value() += 1; // add 1 to i, probably
10451	> =end
10452	> =for Java
10453	> system().foo().bar().i().value().please().increment(); // ???
10454	> =end
10455	>
10456	> :-)
10457	%
10458	> > USENET is not the non-clickable part of WWW!
10459	%
10460	[on linux 2.1.111]
10461
10462	The horrid underlining which was a feature with the monochrome Linux vt's on
10463	the previous two releases of the kernel has gone. Unfortunately, so has the
10464	cursor. A couple of brief experiments didn't result in me finding a way to
10465	turn it on.
10466	%
10467	[...]
10468	its a true story, it happend this weekend in a nice country
10469	between Belgium (wellknown for its Dutroux-case) and Germany
10470	(wellknown for its Bratwurst), lets call it the Lowlands...
10471	[...]
10472	%
10473	I get a sense of god-like proportions when I patch /dev/kmem with dd(1).
10474
10475	Chad C Giffin
10476	%
10477	[usenet, an anology]
10478	Mary Green's car was smoking. She got worried. "Whatever should I do?"
10479	worried Mary... Well, as she drove along she noticed a florists shop. "Aha!
10480	Thought Mary, "Flour shops are full of thoughtless men who need to apologize to
10481	their wives. These men are the sometimes the same ones I see swearing under
10482	the hoods of their cars in the shade of a tree."
10483
10484	"Brrring" said the bell of the door to the flower shop as Mary poked her head
10485	through the door.
10486	"HELP!!! MY CAR IS SMOKING!" Screamed Mary.
10487	"There is a garage right next door." Said the shopkeeper.
10488	"That's right," Said Melvin, "And there is a parts store across the street. If
10489	you ask for Fred, he's pretty savvy about that kind of stuff."
10490	Now Joe was also in the flower store. This was his first time in trouble, so
10491	he did not hear the 30 or 40 people per day who came in screaming about their
10492	cars smoking (mostly men, of course -- the ones under the shade trees,
10493	usually.)
10494
10495	"Why don't you help the stinking lady!!" Screamed Joe. "It might be your
10496	muffler bearings..." he continued. Or maybe it's your deisel glow plugs or
10497	your tire pressure..."
10498	Now Tim, also new to the flower shop felt the courage to chime in, "Or it could
10499	even be your cooling system. Sometimes a hose gets a crack."
10500	"My car smoked once and it was an oil leak, where the head gasket was spraying
10501	oil in the manifold." Hollered Larry
10502	"Hey lady, why don't you get your car the patch if it's smoking" chortled Glen.
10503	Well, the hollering went on into the evening, and the lady finally went to the
10504	gas station and found that the heater core had a tiny split and was repaired in
10505	three days for a cost of $175.23.
10506	%
10507	> Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
10508
10509	Sicher, das macht der Inzest, und die Isolation!:)
10510	%
10511	> Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
10512
10513	Stimmt, deswegen waren sie wohl auch die ersten, die Hitler hinterherliefen...
10514	:-(
10515	%
10516	>Mt 24,34 Wahrlich, ich sage euch: Dieses Geschlecht wird nicht vergehen, bis
10517	>dies alles geschieht.
10518	>Und es verging nicht.
10519
10520	So what?
10521
10522	Ich dachte eher an:
10523
10524	" 'Und sein Wabbel wird an einer Lanze aufgespiesst', wiederholte der
10525	Oberste Groesste Meister grimmig. Im Hintergrund knarrte etwas, als
10526	Bruder Pfoertner versuchte, das klemmende Portal zu oeffnen. 'Sind wir
10527	jetzt alle soweit? Befinden sich vielleicht noch andere Unwissende
10528	unter uns,die sich verirrt haben?' fuegte er mit aetzendem Sarkasmus
10529	hinzu. 'Gut. Wunderbar. Ich bin ja _so_ froh. Vermutlich brauche ich
10530	nicht zu fragen, ob die vier Wachtuerme geschlossen sind, oder? Oh,
10531	ausgezeichnet. Hat sich jemand die Muehe gemacht, der Heiligen Hose
10532	die Beichte abzunehmen? Ach, tatsaechlich? Auf die richtige Art und
10533	Weise? Und wenn ich nachsehe? Na schoen. Sind vor den Fenstern die
10534	roten Kordeln des Intellekts gespannt worden? Gut. Nun, dann koennen
10535	wir jetzt vielleicht beginnen.' ".
10536
10537	Terry Pratchett, "Wachen! Wachen!", S. 15f
10538
10539	Antje
10540	%
10541	[....]
10542
10543	Da muss ich ja, obwohl ich beinahe meinen Humor verloren haette, leise
10544	grinsen. Ich darf zusammenfassen: Du bringst uns keine Beweise, weil Du 1.
10545	zu arm und 2. zu sehr ausgelastet mit der Rettung der Welt und der Zukunft
10546	und so bist. Ausserdem brauchst Du keine Beweise, weil sich Dein
10547	Gedankengebaeude nach eingehender Nabelschau als selbsttragend erwiesen hat.
10548	Finde ich gut! Akzeptiert!
10549
10550	Da will ich nicht weiter stoeren,
10551
10552	Antje
10553	%
10554	It seems that writing to /dev/vcs0 makes the console singing "Ugh,
10555	lalala, I love you baby..."
10556	--
10557	Pavel.Janik@inet.cz
10558	%
10559	On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Linus Torvalds wrote:
10560	>
10561	> Kubys
10562
10563	Kubys is my evil twin brother. Sorry about that.
10564
10565	Linus
10566	%
10567	> eieio stands for "Enforce In-Order Execution of I/O".
10568
10569	.... and it is definitely my favorite name for an assembly language
10570	instruction (the non-native-English speakers on the list presumably
10571	don't know the childhood song "Old McDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O").
10572	%
10573	> It is big and never uses.
10574
10575	That's parses like English, but I'll be hornswoggled if I can figure
10576	out what it means.
10577	--
10578	Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
10579	%
10580	[...] HP's PA-8500, for example, has 1.5 Mbytes of L1 cache on-chip. The
10581	company has described the 8500 as a cache SRAM with an ancillary CPU. [...]
10582	%
10583	From: Dave Cinege <dcinege@psychosis.com>
10584	Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:10:31 -0400
10585
10586	Terry L Ridder wrote:
10587
10588	> at some future date end up being released under the BSD License is what
10589	> is being discussed.
10590
10591	Well my licence is bigger then your licence.
10592	%
10593	[gtk/testgtk, after dragging & dropping an object:]
10594
10595	Drop data of type text/plain was:
10596
10597	Bill Gates demands royalties for your use of his innovation
10598
10599	[and the button reads]
10600
10601	Continue with life in spite of this oppression
10602	%
10603	Joshua Waxman <jwaxman@ymail.yu.edu> writes:
10604
10605	While DJGPP is indeed a C as well as a C compiler, there are certain
10606
10607	A terribly succinct, as well as a true, statement. However, it has a
10608	certain amount of redundancy.
10609	%
10610	Compatibility with oneself is Microsoft's greatest strength. When they hit
10611	the 64 bit transition they will hit a major internal incompatibility problem.
10612
10613	...
10614
10615	Peter da Silva <peter@baileynm.com>
10616	%
10617	>Hello,
10618	>
10619	>I am new to Perl. Can anyone tell me where I can download a full
10620	>operational Perl version for a Windows 95 system?
10621	>
10622
10623	Of course it all depends on what you mean by "a full operational Perl
10624	version" Perl on Win32 has limitations that are largely due to the
10625	nature of the underlying OS, Perl on Win95 has further limitations
10626	compared with NT due to its own shortcomings .
10627	%
10628	An injunction delaying Windows 98 would clearly have a negative impact
10629	on the country as a whole.
10630	Compaq President & CEO Eckhard Pfeiffer,
10631	explaining why Microsoft shouldn't be
10632	prosecuted under anti-monopoly laws.
10633	%
10634	With a PC, I always felt limited by the software available. On Unix, I am
10635	limited by my knowledge. --Peter J. Schoenster <pschon@baste.magibox.net>
10636	%
10637	There is a need to keep from being locked into Open Systems. --IBM sales rep
10638	%
10639	In comp.lang.perl.misc,
10640	Stylin <stylinsty@yahoo.comREMOVE> writes:
10641	:Can anyone point me to the algorithm for creating a unique id?
10642
10643	$id = `cat /dev/kmem`;
10644
10645	--tom
10646	--
10647	Real programmers can write assembly code in any language. :-)
10648	--Larry Wall in <8571@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>
10649	%
10650	Newsgroup: comp.lang.perl.misc
10651	Subject: Larry 1 Bill 0
10652	%
10653	On 3 Jul 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
10654
10655	> The only problem with these AIs is that they don't handle references
10656	> to themselves as AIs very well. In faSegmentation fault (core dumped)
10657	> NO CARRIER
10658	> !@&#@#%T^@&(GUSD(@!&(@#R(FERHGH*(@#(&$&#@Y!&R
10659	%
10660	> People come here to ask questions, not for intellectual gratification, but
10661	> rather they are seeking solutions. As such, the incorrect answer was
10662	> better.
10663
10664	There's something... terribly wrong with this statement. I can't quite put
10665	my finger on it. Hmmm.
10666	%
10667	comp.lang.c does not exist to accomodate the laziness of those who cannot be
10668	bothered to learn netiquette. That's what comp.lang.c++ is for.
10669	%
10670	\|> : > but... a microwave is an example of an embedded system,
10671	\|>
10672	\|> : Who says? He just said it was a microwave. He didn't say it was
10673	\|> : a free-standing implimentation.
10674	\|>
10675	\|> This is approaching arguing for the sake of argument. Have you
10676	\|> ever seen a microwave oven that supports a hosted C environment?
10677
10678	The Lipton Ritchie Model 8 did. I'm sure that many posters will
10679	point out that Lipton's implementation of the stdio libraries was
10680	horrendously buggy. It was, but it was still a great system. It
10681	remains the only C implementation I know of that could be used to
10682	build Bison, and then cook it.
10683
10684	Viva la buffalo burgers.
10685	%
10686	A strategically-placed PDP-11 can be used to heat your entire
10687	home. I've got one in my basement, next to a large box of "She's
10688	The Sheriff" drink coasters. I sold my furnace years ago. The
10689	Digital Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning Corporation
10690	can be found online at http://www.dhvacc.com/.
10691	%
10692	The lbxproxy program has various options, all of which are optional.
10693	-- lbxproxy(1)
10694	%
10695	Re: Where to learn Windows programming...
10696
10697	\|> I'll take a Schildt book any day, thanks.
10698
10699	Great. I'm expecting to see the line above as a back-cover blurb
10700	on the next "Bullschildt: The Complete Reference".
10701	%
10702	Subject: Re: The wrong position of while, if and else?
10703
10704	that's some ugly piece of code buddy...
10705	%
10706	In article <1998062718481700.OAA03186@ladder01.news.aol.com>, eyrei@aol.com (EYREI) writes:
10707	\|> I have recently started learning the C Language. I have created a simple file
10708	\|> to determine whether or not a number is Prime. When I run it, the program
10709	\|> crashes with the error message :- Unhandled Exception :- General Protection
10710	\|> Exception 0x5FD7:0x379F. Prime(1) Processor Fault.
10711
10712	\|> What does this mean.
10713
10714	It means you've got a broken operating system, and should immediately
10715	install [free\|net\|open]BSD[OS] or Linux.
10716	%
10717	Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
10718
10719	On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Emulov wrote:
10720	> Hi, i don't know if this is a stupid question..
10721
10722	Off-topic, too! Imagine that.
10723	%
10724	"Right now we are the most shit hot piece of PC networking software on the
10725	planet. The only people who can touch us are FreeBSD (who also dont do
10726	streams)."
10727	-- Alan Cox, in "Streams and Linux"
10728	%
10729	"Perl combines all of the worst aspects of BASIC, C and line noise."
10730	- Keith Packard <keithp@ncd.com>
10731	%
10732	Lord Fellatio <richter_m@hotmail.com>
10733
10734	>Wo soll das Loch denn dann sein? Im Meeresboden?
10735
10736	Klaro.
10737
10738	>Von oben duerfte man es also ueberhaupt nicht sehen
10739	>koennen, da ueber dem potentiellen Loch im Meeresboden doch
10740	>wahrscheinlich erstmal Wasser und dann viel Eis liegen wuerde. Wie
10741	>verhindern die Ausserirdischen denn, dass Wasser ins Loch einstroemt?
10742
10743	Na ist doch völlig logo, mit nem rotierenden Traktorstrahl. Die
10744	Energie klauen die ?r***e dem Erdmagnetfeld.
10745
10746	>Gibt es da einen kosmischen Badewannenstoepsel? Haben sie es mit
10747	>Eisbergen verstopft? Oder benutzen sie das einstroemende Wasser zu
10748	>Kajakfahrten bis hinunter zum Suedpol? (Das waere doch auch endlich
10749	>mal eine einleuchtende Erklaerung fuer die Eismassen, die die
10750	>Antarktis bedecken - man muesste halt nur, der Kontinentaldrift
10751	>folgend, immer wieder neue Schaechte bohren. Oder die Kontinentaldrift
10752	>einfach wegdiskutieren...)
10753
10754	Die enorme Zentrifugalkraft im Erdinnern schleudert das Wasser wieder
10755	am Nordpolpol raus, falls der Traktorstrahl versagen sollte (Dies
10756	passiert immer dann, wenn das Erdmagnetfeld umkippt). Nun kommt sicher
10757	der Einwand, die Erde würde zu langsam rotieren. Das ist nur bedingt
10758	richtig. Richtig ist hingegen, daß die Rotationsgeschwindigkeit im
10759	Erdinnern um den Faktor 1000 (ca; sehr schwer zu messen: Magma) größer
10760	ist als auf der Erdoberfläche. Dies ist auch die Ursache für die
10761	Kontinentaldrift und die Mondphasen.
10762
10763	Die Mondphasen wiederum beeinflussen das Erdmagnetfeld und sind daher
10764	die Ursache für die Sonnenflecken. Den Sonnenflecken haben wir auch
10765	die momentane Klimaveränderung zu verdanken. Auf der anderen Seite hat
10766	die Zunahme der Treibhausgase eine Erhöhung des Reflektionsvermögens
10767	der Atmosphäre zur Folge, welches dazu führt, daß ein Teil der
10768	Sonnenenergie zur Sonne zurückreflektiert wird. Dies heizt wiederum
10769	die Sonnenflecken auf und verkürzt deren Zyklus. All dies wird sich in
10770	den nächten Monaten so aufschaukeln, daß vorraussichtlich im Novemner
10771	2002 das Erdmagnetfeld zusammenbrechen wird. Wie damals bei den Dinos.
10772	Nur war dort ein Kometeneinschlag die Ursache.
10773
10774	cu in hell 2002
10775	%
10776	"Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '85, Windows '95"
10777	%
10778	>In unix, one might say 'man 3 crypt'.
10779
10780	Of course, on a Solaris system this won't give you what you want. You
10781	get a message that it can't find the man page for 3. It then prints
10782	the man page for crypt(1).
10783
10784	Of course, all a beginner has to do is figure out that the 3 is the
10785	section number in the Unix manual. He can then use man man to find
10786	that on Solaris one uses -s to specify the section so he'll try
10787
10788	man -s3 crypt
10789
10790	Unfortunately, that doesn't work either. He'll get the message "No
10791	entry for crypt in section(s) 3 of the manual."
10792
10793	If he doesn't give up, he can go back to the manual page for man and
10794	find that the -a switch prints all matching manual pages. Or perhaps
10795	he can figure out to use the command
10796
10797	man -s3 Intro.3
10798
10799	to get a list of everything in section 3. He'll then find out that
10800	crypt is in section 3C so he should use
10801
10802	man -s3c crypt
10803
10804	Gee. I don't understand why beginners have so much trouble with this
10805	stuff. I've only been programming Unix for 15 years and I don't have
10806	any trouble.
10807	--
10808	Michael M Rubenstein
10809	%
10810	Take a moment to consider these lines:
10811
10812	%OVERLOAD=( '""' => sub { join("", @{$_[0]}) } );
10813
10814	sub html { my($type)=shift; bless ["<$type>", @_, "</$type>"]; }
10815
10816	:-) I love Perl 5! Thankyou Larry and Ilya.
10817
10818	Regards,
10819	Tim Bunce.
10820
10821	p.s. If you didn't get it, think about recursive data types: html(html())
10822	p.p.s. I'll turn this into a much more practical example in a day or two.
10823	p.p.p.s. It's a pity that overloads are not inherited. Is this a bug?
10824	%
10825	From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10826
10827	...
10828
10829	> now is evil". This only shows two things: you never looked at the bad
10830	> experiences of the industry where following a rotten design and
10831	> keeping backward compatibility lead to unusable systems. And second:
10832
10833	I worked for 3com. I know eveyrhting about following a rotten design until
10834	its unusable, believe me I do.
10835	%
10836	Ok(slow) -> !NeedComputer
10837
10838	Semour Cray
10839	%
10840	Ullrich Jans at University of Karlsruhe, Germany:
10841
10842	Oh Gott! Es ist voller crons!
10843	%
10844	From: p00h <p00h@MONMOUTH.COM>
10845	Subject: Re: AOL for Windows DoS/Exploit
10846
10847	aol supports PARTIAL html, its like win95's implementation of tcp/ip
10848	it only supports parts of it
10849	%
10850	egcs/gcc/gcse.c:
10851	/* Help stamp out big monolithic functions! */
10852	%
10853	[...] Yes, I'm being sarcastic. Especially regarding HPPA assembler syntax
10854	as provided by HP, which was designed by someone who should not have been
10855	let near a language-design project like that, too often "little languages",
10856	whether assemblers, tools, or C++, are designed by people who are unaware
10857	of, or give little thought to, the outright readability of code written in
10858	the language, in the sense that the basic semantics should be fairly obvious
10859	without the reader having to memorize lots of semantic information.
10860
10861	(In HPPA assembler's case, one glaring stupidity was the nullified branches,
10862	which have completely different semantics depending on whether the label
10863	being branched to happens to assemble to a negative or positive offset! A
10864	smarter design would have required the programmer to specify whether such a
10865	branch was a "forward" or "backward" branch explicitly, then the assembler
10866	and/or linker would complain if reality didn't match the programmer's
10867	specification. I've never looked into whether GNU's HPPA as fixes this
10868	botch; I gather GNU as fixes many botches, though, so it wouldn't surprise
10869	me if it did, even though that might make for some compatibility problems
10870	with existing HP as code.) [...]
10871
10872	tq vm, (burley)
10873	%
10874	libc/posix/regex.h:
10875	/* The following two types have to be signed and unsigned integer type
10876	wide enough to hold a value of a pointer. For most ANSI compilers
10877	ptrdiff_t and size_t should be likely OK. Still size of these two
10878	types is 2 for Microsoft C. Ugh... */
10879	typedef long int s_reg_t;
10880	typedef unsigned long int active_reg_t;
10881	%
10882	libc/db2/db.h:
10883	/*
10884	* While Microsoft's compiler is ANSI C compliant, it doesn't have _STDC_
10885	* defined by default, you specify a command line flag or #pragma to turn
10886	* it on. Don't do that, however, because some of Microsoft's own header
10887	* files won't compile.
10888	*/
10889	%
10890	> UTC variation and begining and ending dates of DST (if observed) would be
10891	> great.
10892
10893	I answered only the places I can comment on.
10894
10895	> BASSAS DA INDIA
10896
10897	This rock is below water half of the time!
10898	If any inhabitants have been there, I do not think they observe DST
10899	on a regular basis! ;-)
10900	%
10901	# ./test-plugin.pl
10902	Bizarre copy of CODE in sassign at /root/.gimp/plug-ins/test-plugin.pl line 40.
10903	wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)
10904	%
10905	>
10906	> The "where do you want to go today?" generation has taken the
10907	> developer out of the "programmer" by removing the vital, development
10908	> tools from the environment and precanning software.
10909
10910	No kidding. Point. Click. Point. Click. Point. Click. Brain Atrophy.
10911	%
10912	Lars Chr Hausmann <36haus@but.auc.dk> writes:
10913
10914	>Hello!
10915
10916	>I have to write something about, what Perl is.
10917	>I need some crystal clear info about, what perl is. So if any of you
10918	>would be so kind just to mail. Then I would be grateful!
10919
10920
10921	Perl.
10922
10923	regards
10924	jobst
10925	%
10926	Subject: Re: Cyrix 6x86MX and Centaur C6 CPUs in 2.1.102
10927	From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10928	Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:31:02 +0100 (BST)
10929
10930	> Well, that depends. They SHOULD be. By Intel 'standards' laff, they have
10931	> to be identical stepping, indicating identical features. However, I've
10932
10933	They don't. Pentiums have fairly strict rules, P6/PII much less. Also Intel
10934	are pretty good at following the MP 1.1/1.4 standard its the motherboard
10935	makers who get it wrong - primarily the BIOS is full of bugs. It appears
10936	nobody tests bios code against specs any more. It looks like they do
10937	compile flash, boot 95, boot NT, ship. The quality of bios code has dived to
10938	the absolute pits.
10939	%
10940	Unix never says `Please.' -- Rob Pike
10941	%
10942	> What about: . scriptname
10943	> ------------------^ this is a dot!
10944
10945	Funny, it looks like a "p" to me.
10946	%
10947	A computer without Microsoft and IBM is like chocolate cake without
10948	ketchup and mustard
10949	%
10950	Subject: Re: Challange for perl `GURUS
10951
10952	vimal gajjar wrote:
10953	>
10954	> Hi there,
10955	> Here is a small challange. Is it possible to have a perl
10956	> code which takes e.g. three parameters as input. time, val1, val2. and
10957	> the name of the prog. is say challange.pl. Now if i execute
10958	> "challange.pl 10 5 2" this perl script wille consume
10959	> 5% of cpu
10960	> 2 Mb of RAM
10961	> for the period of 10 Seconds.
10962	>
10963	> can one of the gurus take this challange?
10964
10965	Examining the 5 copies of this post has consumed 5% of the
10966	brain power I allocate to reviewing c.l.p.m, about 10 seconds, and
10967	has caused the death of 2 million brain cells.
10968	%
10969	> >> /A:You can usually write the program faster than you can
10970	> >> dial/dl/hangup/install/read docs/fix it/fix the fix/.
10971	>
10972	> >s/usually/never/
10973	>
10974	> s/sometimes/never/
10975
10976	Cute. You embarrass yourself by your ignorance of perl.
10977	%
10978	:That's probably true, but I really can't speak to it. But, if there
10979	:were no *nix around, there'd be no Perl. Nor would there be a need for
10980	:Perl, IMO.
10981
10982	Gotta love them JCL and ini dot bat dot bad dot doo dah files.
10983
10984	TC
10985	%
10986	'cc:Mail is a wonderful application, as long as you don't want to read or send mail.'
10987	%
10988	shurik@iron.Te.NeT.UA - Alexandr Dubovikov at TeNeT Networking Centre
10989
10990	Hi guys!
10991
10992	How check socket, alive it or die ?
10993	%
10994	--> Questions not to ask on linux-kernel <--
10995
10996	Miscellaneous flame-wars:
10997	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
10998	12) The gnome-kde debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
10999	13) The emacs-vi debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
11000	14) Porting linux to run under windows is not interesting.
11001	15) Whether a given intel CISC chip "is really RISC" is not interesting.
11002	%
11003	Subject: what a week!
11004	From: "C. Scott Ananian" <cananian@lcs.mit.edu>
11005	Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 03:13:23 -0400 (EDT)
11006
11007	unicode, boot-logos, GGI, STREAMS, the necessity of a short devel cycle
11008	and the instability of 2.0.x, "ifconfig stopped working", "you really do
11009	need to remove 'encaps'", Linus' tarball practices... it seems like we're
11010	running out of things to flame off on. Here's my humble contribution:
11011
11012	I'VE MADE A KEWL NEW CHARSET THAT I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD USE. IT HAS ALL
11013	THE LETTERS IN MY LOGIN MAPPED TO THE LOWEST 16 CHARACTERS SO WE CAN
11014	COMPRESS THINGS REAL GOOD AND THE LETTERS IN MY BROTHER B1FF'S NAME ARE
11015	ALL IN HIGH ASCII CUZ THAT'S WHERE LOSERS BELONG!!!2!!7
11016
11017	I ONLY USE EMACS AND I THINK VI SUX!!$231!!
11018
11019	GNOME RULES AND KDE IS DEMON-SPAWN BECAUSE IT IS NOT FREE.! !
11020
11021	WE NEED KGI IN THE KERNEL (NOT LIBGGI, NOT THE TERMINAL IMPROVEMENTS
11022	WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED) IN ORDER TO HAVE WAY KEWL BOOT LOGOS AND RUN MY
11023	BROTHER B1FF'S GAMES!!1!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!11!!!
11024
11025	I USE A BIG-ENDIAN MACHINE BECAUSE THEY RULE. LITTLE-ENDIAN MACHINES ARE
11026	EVIL. AND A PENTIUM IS A RISC PROCESSOR!!!
11027
11028	WE SHOULD PORT LINUX TO WINDOWS SO WE CAN USE ALL THE KEWL HARDWARE
11029	DRIVERS!!!!!@@#!
11030
11031	Did I miss any? ;-)
11032
11033	Please don't respond seriously to this email. It's a joke. A joke.
11034	Laugh. Please.
11035
11036	And then let's kill all the flaming threads, shall we?
11037	--Scott
11038	%
11039	> Well, /proc/kcore already reports its actual size...
11040
11041	And it isn't about to change at runtime either. That is the size of
11042	installed memory. I've yet to see a single person successfully insert or
11043	remove a SIMM/DIMM while a machine was running. If they did, and it was
11044	successful, the linux code will update the filesize. ;o)
11045	%
11046	Toby Heywood (toby@he-net.demon.co.uk) wrote:
11047	: This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
11048
11049	One of those 'M's stands for Mail.
11050
11051	This is not mail.
11052
11053	This is Usenet.
11054
11055	Please post only plain text like everyone else does.
11056	%
11057	------------ etienne.lorrain@ibm.net
11058	--- hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
11059	--- ide1: reset: success
11060	-----------> I like Linux !
11061	%
11062	> I have experienced people walking up to my console and saying "What
11063	> the hell does that mean" in sheer terror as the machine boots.
11064
11065	Tell them it's magic, and earn the respect of your colleagues. I always
11066	do.
11067	%
11068	++ Actually, I'm not at a loss for words. Here's one that's very appropriate:
11069	++ PLONK.
11070	%
11071	++ > SSI is not HTML.
11072	Re: Subraumfunk
11073
11074	Ja, ein Handy waere da praktisch. Die hoeheren Gebuehren rechnen sich,
11075	wenn man ueber die Grenzen des Sonnensystems hinaus telefonieren will.
11076
11077	Die Telekom wuerde da wieder mal erbarmungslos abzocken. Ich kann es
11078	mir schon vorstellen: SunSystem-Tarif, vielleicht auch einen
11079	InnerPlanets-Sondertarif, dann einen LocalGroupWeekend-Specialtarif,
11080	eine Supercluster-Zone und so weiter. Und wenn es auf der Venus
11081	schneit, telefonieren alle fuer die Haelfte.
11082	%
11083	> > Vergiss es. Du wirst nie und nimmer von Armando eine
11084	> > konkrete, verwertbare Antwort bekommen.
11085	>
11086	> Doch, man bekommt von mir sogar sehr viele Antworten.
11087
11088	Du hast gerade zwei Adjektive weggelassen.
11089	%
11090	++ Oh yeah. Show me an example of SSI used outside of HTML.
11091	Show me an HTML DTD mentioning SSI directives.
11092	%
11093	Namsuk Kim wrote:
11094	> Is there a way to convert a scalar data to Acii data format?
11095
11096	I am not familar with ACII. If you mean ASCII, then the question I have is
11097	- is the data in EBCDIC now?
11098
11099	Bill Jones
11100	%
11101	GNU/getopt.c:
11102
11103	#if defined (WIN32) && !defined (__CYGWIN32__)
11104	/* It's not Unix, really. See? Capital letters. */
11105	#include <windows.h>
11106	#define getpid() GetCurrentProcessId()
11107	#endif
11108	%
11109	Subject: IIS 4.0, PW32i316, CGI Programs
11110
11111	Perlis.dll does not pass command line arguments correctly via the web. That
11112	is, invoking the URL
11113
11114	http://www.myserver.com/myprogram.pl?Argument1&Argument2...&Argumentn
11115
11116	causes the myprogram.pl to execute, but @ARGV is empty.
11117	%
11118	"You need to use CGI."
11119	"I am using CGI, it's a CGI application!"
11120	"No, no, use CGI. The directive 'use'."
11121	"OK, so what directive do I use?"
11122	"No, no, you use use. Use CGI."
11123	"I am using CGI!"
11124
11125	Craig Berry - cberry@cinenet.net
11126	%
11127	> > Was haltet Ihr von Killfile-mailing-lists, dass sich die Leute mal
11128	> > kennenlernen koennen?
11129	>
11130	> Gute Idee ;-), wäre ich sofort dabei, datrifft man wahrscheinlich ne
11131	> Menge tolle Leute... ;-) und die wahren Freidenker.
11132
11133	Einige Freidenker sicher, aber auch etliche Denkfreie.
11134	%
11135	"I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big or
11136	professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones." -- Linus Torvalds 1991
11137	%
11138	If it's a floppy, it might be a copy.
11139	If it's a disk, you're also at risk.
11140	If it's a pirate, the vendors are irate.
11141	To avoid such frustration, try: Free Software Foundation.
11142	%
11143	From: David Woodhouse <Dave@imladris.demon.co.uk>
11144
11145	pcg@goof.com said:
11146	> It was much more than I usally get! It was _great_
11147
11148	Hehe - I know the feeling.
11149
11150	"It's broken."
11151	"What's wrong with it?."
11152	"I don't know - it just doesn't work."
11153	"Well what do you mean by 'it's broken'?"
11154	"It just doesn't work."
11155	"How can you _tell_ it's broken, for f***'s sake - what are the symptoms!?"
11156	"It gives an error message."
11157	"Would you care to tell me what it says?"
11158	"It says.... something about there being an error."
11159	"That's not very helpful. Tell me it word for word."
11160	"It says 'Unable to handle kernel NULL reference at something or other'"
11161	"That's not word for word. It said 'NULL pointer dereference.' Try again,
11162	letter for letter this time."
11163	%
11164	From: "Paul B. Henson" <henson@INTRANET.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
11165
11166	After installing Solaris 2.6 HW3/98, I discovered that /usr/bin/admintool
11167	had been installed mode 0777, world writable. Under the original release of
11168	2.6, the mode was 04555.
11169
11170	Sun has been notified of the problem. If you're running 2.6 HW3/98, you
11171	might want to verify your admintool hasn't been tampered with and fix the
11172	perms.
11173
11174	(Personally, I'd set them to 0000 ;). admintool? blech.)
11175	%
11176	From: verah@netscape.com (Vera Horiuchi)
11177	Subject: Re: Risp: drama (Re: Do It Yourself)
11178
11179	Americans ignorant of the rest of the world?
11180
11181	I must tell a favorite story here. A friend and I were purchasing a gift
11182	for another friend who lives in Canada. I was speculating out loud about
11183	how much duty our Canadian friend would have to pay.
11184
11185	The cashier said, "Oh, I'm sure Canadians don't have to pay any duty. We
11186	ship to Hawaii all the time, and _they_ don't have to pay duty." =:-0
11187	%
11188	>am besten ist z.Z. das Buch von Michael Neufeld. Wer aber Wissenslücken
11189	>verspürt (was keine Schande ist), sollte diese zu stopfen suchen und nicht
11190	>Zuflucht zu absolut hirnrissigen Theorien suchen.
11191
11192	Hirnrissig bist Du. Das es einen Zeittransfer aus der Zukunft zu den Nazis
11193	gab deckt sich mit dazu passenden Entschluesselungen bestimmter Bibelstellen
11194	und mit der dann tatsaechlichen notwendigen Geheimhaltung. Es deckt sich
11195	ueberdies damit, dass die Unterhaltung uns den Gedanken zunehmend nahelegt,
11196	also vorbereitet, und dass es bereits ein wissenschaftliches Experiment gab,
11197	bei dem ERST die Wirkung auftrat und DANN die Ursache. Die Zeitreise ist
11198	also Fakt. Und es ist sicher, dass Jemand per Zeitreise den Nazis helfen
11199	wollte. Gelegentliche Theorien, dass auch diese ausserirdische Hilfe gehabt
11200	haetten sollen nur davon ablenken, eine andere Erklaerung liefern. Das ist
11201	logisch, denn die Taeter sitzen ja irgendwo in unserer Zeit und moechten
11202	sicher nicht erkannt werden.
11203
11204	Du scheinst die simpelsten Grundzuege der Zeitlogik nicht verstehen zu wollen.
11205
11206	normarz@aol.com
11207	%
11208	>Oder anders gesagt:
11209	>Glaubst Du, Du könntest mit einem hochmodernen Maschinengewehr eine römische
11210	>Legion
11211	>schlagen?
11212
11213	Klar. Frage mal Cortez.
11214
11215	Bye
11216	Andreas
11217	%
11218	>Article 2B is a threat to anyone who uses a computer. I just wanted to
11219
11220	It may be a threat to any american using a computer. Fortunately, the U.S.
11221	justice does not yet apply outside the U.S.A.
11222
11223	I.a.W.: You're currently creating a lot of happy non-U.S. software
11224	companies.
11225
11226	Kind regards
11227	Henning
11228	%
11229	From: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>
11230	Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:14:11 -0700
11231	Subject: Re: driver for Creative Labs DVD kits
11232
11233	At least with the IDE DVD drive that I have, plugging it directly
11234	into an IDE port and using the regular Linux ide-cd driver works just fine
11235	for reading [...] CD and the [not] copy protected sections of the DVD's.
11236
11237	There is a protocol that the hardware decoder boards use to
11238	tell the DVD drive that they are a licensed implementation and should
11239	be allowed to read the copy protected sectors as well. I have been
11240	told that this protocol can be done entirely in software with a
11241	standard IDE port. Hopefully, somebody will reverse engineer this and
11242	make it a demand loaded kernel module. (Seriously, there is a lot
11243	that you are allowed to do with copyrighted material that this sort of
11244	hardware restriction prevents, and there are other important political
11245	issues involved relating to your rights to do as you please with the
11246	computer equipment that you bought and paid for.)
11247	%
11248	Where do you want to go today?
11249	We might support that sometime next year.
11250	-=- Microsoft
11251	(But I doubt it.)
11252	-=- Me
11253	-=- James Mastros
11254	%
11255	Hello570 <hello570@aol.com> wrote:
11256	> I tried printing a line to a file using both of the
11257	> following methods, but the output was split into two
11258	>lines.
11259
11260	If you don't want newlines in the middle of your string, then don't
11261	put newlines in the middle of your string.
11262	%
11263	http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/Dean_Roehrich/subjects.post
11264	%
11265	Einstein himself said that God doesn't roll dice. But he was wrong. And
11266	in fact, anyone who has played role-playing games knows that God
11267	probably had to roll quite a few dice to come up with a character like
11268	Einstein. -- Larry Wall
11269	%
11270	From: Ragnar Hojland Espinosa <root@lightside.ddns.org>
11271
11272	My $0.02 Euros on internationalization? I'm in Spain and my keyboard is
11273	mosty US mapped because the Spanish map is really awkward for programming.
11274	Computers were designed to be funcional, not politically (or locally)
11275	correct (hm, I don't think HAL ever spoke Russian). This "computers are easy
11276	for all" GUI related trend has done a lot of money, and lot of damage; at
11277	least command line OSes forced the user to actually learn something and
11278	absorb information. The user assumed so, so he did. Now he doesn't, and
11279	it's not all his fault.
11280
11281	The WWW is full of useless (and ugly) graphics, of useless links to links to
11282	pages with links to links which usually end up in a huge links page. Of
11283	course, there are some jewels.. but they should be majority! It's
11284	understandable, when the tools and languages focus more on aspect that in
11285	content.
11286
11287	Usenet is worse than ever, the interesting places have been ruined by
11288	spammers, c00l hak3rz, and more and more people asking (or demanding) for
11289	others doing their homework.. at least some time ago they were willing to
11290	learn (or pay for it;)
11291
11292	IRC.. heh. The few times I've been on funet almost all I found is the same
11293	people in the above paragraph. And I do know some of them even run scripts
11294	to try denial of service or other destructive attacks on people they see,
11295	just for fun or to get the op.
11296
11297	Email. Someone selling an "incredible program that allows you to bypass
11298	your ISP mail server, for only $89" (thats right, a smtp server). No OS
11299	mentioned, I somehow can guess which. And that stupid thing of sending
11300	mail to people in RTF and HTML format.. I'm gonna answer them in LaTeX.
11301
11302	Internet, your ilimited junk yard.
11303
11304	Using computers would make me real sad if it wasn't for UNIX and, of
11305	course, Linux and Linux people.
11306	%
11307	... WNT == ++VMS . Literally. Dave Cutler created VMS,
11308	then he rewrote it as WNT.
11309
11310	Ever used VMS? It's a step above DOS. Barely.
11311	--
11312	Clark O. Morgan cmorgan@aracnet.com
11313	%
11314	>Subject: If "=~" means match what is doesn't match?
11315
11316	I heard that a friend of a friend might have once been told about a
11317	rumor that this information can be found in perlop, right next to
11318	where =~ is documented. (It's !~)
11319
11320	I agree with Tom's assessment that the fall of modern man will be
11321	preceded by the de-evolution of communications to the days of oral
11322	tradition.
11323	%
11324	"Windows 95, the most installed system in the world,
11325	I know, I've done it 5 or 6 times myself"
11326	%
11327	The statistics programming language S, from AT&T, combines lazy
11328	evaluation with imperative programming. A nightmare.
11329	%
11330	"In 1965, as part of a research and development project for the
11331	U.S. Army, engineers at TRW Corp developed a software program
11332	called Generalized Information Retrieval Lanaguage and System."
11333	Or GIRLS for short.
11334	%
11335	Wissen bremst die Meinungsbildung voll aus.
11336	%
11337	I have an idea: Anybody who posts an URGENT! or EMERGENCY! request should
11338	post the circumstances behind the urgency. "I was having sex with my
11339	mistress in the server room and I knocked the Linux box over and the hard
11340	drive crashed and so I've reinstalled everything but I still can't get
11341	5_004_03 to build!"
11342
11343	This would inspire me to action far more than the implied subtext of "I
11344	have no patience."
11345
11346	xoxo,
11347	Andy
11348	%
11349	> I have Perl5 running on my pc.
11350	> and also front page98 and microsoft personal web server runnig.
11351	We all have our cross to bear.
11352	%
11353	(THIS IS LONG, YOU MAY WANT TO SKIP)
11354
11355	From: mjd@plover.com (Mark-Jason Dominus)
11356	Date: 09 Nov 1995 02:57:30 GMT
11357	Subject: Re: system() question
11358
11359	There are a lot of reasons, many of which get repeated over and
11360	over again, many of which don't. Some of the reasons you hear a lot
11361	are: Questions are incoherently phrased. Questions have the form 'My
11362	code doesn't work' and don't include the code. Questions include the
11363	code, and it's 200 lines long, and comp.lang.perl is not a debugging
11364	service. Nobody knows the answer to the question. The question is so
11365	badly punctuated that nobody can bear to read it. Questions aer
11366	written by a non-native speaker of English and the native speakers who
11367	are trying to understand it can't. (That's a shame, but it does
11368	happen. I often wish that these people would post in their native
11369	languages. I'd love to see more discussion in languages other than
11370	English. Some Dutch guy tried posting all his comp.lang.c articles in
11371	Dutch a few years ago, and all the Americans flamed him. How
11372	humiliating for me!)
11373
11374	Apart from these oft-mentioned reasons are many others that are
11375	not so often discussed, because anyone who tries to bring them up gets
11376	flamed. But it's the truth: I know the reason I don't answer more
11377	questions is because so many of them questions are so damn stupid.
11378	They're stupid in a lot of different ways, but they're still stupid.
11379	I don't want to suggest that that's why your questions go unanswered.
11380	I don't know what you're asking. No doubt the reason your questions
11381	go unanswered is because they're so deep and interesting that nobody
11382	really knows the answer.
11383
11384	The most common stupid question is the one from someone who has
11385	some high-level problem that they need solved. They have an idea that
11386	they'd like to do it in perl, and they don't really know perl. So
11387	instead of learning perl, they post to comp.lang.perl.misc.
11388
11389	Now don't get me wrong. I don't have any problems answering the
11390	questions of someone who's trying to learn perl. I love THOSE
11391	qusetions. But these people don't seem to be asking useful questions
11392	for that.
11393
11394	Today, for example, I saw a question from a guy who wants to get a
11395	list of hostnames out of nslookup. `How do I do that?' he says. And
11396	it's hard to know what to make of that. What does he mean? Does he
11397	not know how to open a pipe? Is his en' command failing? What's
11398	going on here? I can't give a useful answer without understanding the
11399	problem. Having your en' fail is a problem. Wanting to list
11400	hostnames is not a problem; it's a desire.
11401
11402	Here are some similar questions that would have made more sense to me:
11403
11404	1. `I'm a lazy asshole and I can't be bothered to learn to
11405	program myself, but I know if I post here you'll give me
11406	something for free.''
11407
11408	(OK, fair enough. At least I can send him a rate card.)
11409
11410	2. `I'm trying to use en' to talk to nslookup, but...
11411	...here's my code; what's wrong?''
11412
11413	(Good question.)
11414
11415	3. `I know perl has a `System' command for running programs,
11416	but I can't see how to get my commands into nslookup
11417	once I have run it.''
11418	(Good question.)
11419
11420	4. `I'm trying to use `Getprotobynumber' to talk to nslookup...''
11421
11422	(Good question.)
11423
11424	See, I'm not just biting people's heads off, here. #4 is a good
11425	question, because it gives me something to work with. OK, he has a
11426	very weird idea about interprocess communication, but that's
11427	ignorance, and that's what we're here to correct. He doesn't know
11428	about en'; I can refer him to the manual.
11429
11430	Here's another example: Some guy wants to assemble a list of email
11431	addresses . `How do I do that?'' he wants to know. Well, duh. Get a
11432	big pad of paper and read news for a couple days and write down all
11433	the addresses you see. Problem solved. What's it doing in
11434	comp.lang.perl?
11435	Oh, you wanted to do it in perl. Well, I guess I'd open a socket
11436	to the NNTP server and send it some XHDR commands for the `From'
11437	lines. But that's not Perl; you could do that in any language. I
11438	could do it in Bourne Shell for you if I'm allowed to use a little
11439	external thingie to handle the socket parts for me. What's it doing
11440	in comp.lang.perl?
11441
11442	Oh, you wanted us to write the program for you? Wait, let me send
11443	you my rate card.
11444
11445	Someone posted yesterday asking how to get the data from a file where
11446	the start and end of the data is marked by keywords. Same thing going on
11447	here. `Well, here's how you solve your problem: First you go take an
11448	introductory class in programming and learn to write programs in some
11449	language. Then you go to the bookstore and buy this book by Wall and
11450	Schwartz, it's really good. Read the book carefully and try out the
11451	examples. Then if you still have general questions like `How do I do this'
11452	instead of thought that this code would do X but instead it does Y' you hire
11453	a professional to write your program for you. Or you could just skip right
11454	to step 3. Want my rate card?''
11455
11456	The worst stupid questions are the ones that come from people who
11457	have no business asking them. The most perfect example of this that I
11458	could have imagined was in comp.unix.questions a couple of years ago.
11459	Some guy came and asked how you could tell if a file is a hard link.
11460	My jaw flapped open and it's stayed open since then. I couldn't have
11461	been any more stumped if he'd asked why Bodhidharma came from the
11462	West. What do you say to this guy? Do you tell him the truth, that
11463	all files are hard links, that even symbolic links are hard links?
11464	He's not going to understand you; you might as well keep your mouth
11465	shut. Do you tell him the truth, that the answer won't do him any
11466	good because he doesn't know what a hard link is, so why did he bother
11467	asking in the first place? No, that'll just make him mad. I followed
11468	that message for the next couple weeks, and nobody said anything.
11469	What could you say? The guy had no business asking the question and
11470	no use for the answer. Maybe the right answer would have been to cut
11471	off his finger or something. I dunno.
11472
11473	Some questions get ignored because they're boring. Someone asked
11474	today how to compare two variables (I assumme he means the contents of
11475	those variables) to see if they're exactly the same. You've gotta be
11476	in an awfully good mood to take the time to answer that. Maybe
11477	someone will. Maybe I will.
11478
11479	If I answer that one today, maybe he'll be back tomorrow asking
11480	how to check to see if two variables contain different values. Maybe
11481	I won't. What I find incredible is that if you tell these people to
11482	go read the manual and come back in two weeks, you sometimes get
11483	jumped on for not being helpful to beginners. Bah. If everyone told
11484	these people to go read the manual, they'd eventually figure out that
11485	that's what you have to do ,and then I wouldn't have to spend so much
11486	of my life dealing with incompetent programmers.
11487
11488	Some questions are logically nonsensical because the querent
11489	thinks they know more than they do. A lot of these have the form
11490	`How do I use X to accomplish Y?'' There's nothing wrong with this,
11491	except that sometimes X is a chocolate-covered banana and Y is the
11492	integration of European currency systems. I always get stuck on
11493	these, probably because I can't get rid of the idea that the person
11494	really has a good reason for wanting to use X. I know a half-dozen
11495	easy simple ways to accomplish Y, but I can't imagine what X has to do
11496	with it. This is a problem for me in my day job, too. Clients are
11497	always saying to me `We want to use product X to do multimedia
11498	development on the world-wide web,'' and all I can think is `Well,
11499	gee, what would you want to go and do that for?'' Sometimes it turns
11500	out that they want to do it because they want to impress the
11501	manufacturers of X, and I don't work on those jobs.
11502
11503	The flip side of this is a questions like `I want to accomplish
11504	X, but I don't want to use Y. What can I use instead?'' Which,
11505	again, is sometimes reasonable, and then sometimes X is closing a
11506	filehandle and Y is the `Close' function.
11507
11508	The questions I like the best are the ones that go like this:
11509
11510	`I want to accomplish X.
11511
11512	I thought that the following code fragment would do it:
11513
11514	...
11515
11516	But instead it does Y.
11517
11518	Why is that?''
11519
11520	This one is also pretty good:
11521
11522	`I want to accomplish X.
11523	I thought I might be able to use facility Y.
11524
11525	But Y doesn't seem like it's quite right,
11526	because of Z.
11527
11528	What should I use instead of Y, or how can I overcome Z?''
11529
11530	When I ignore these, it's usually because I don't know the answer.
11531	There were an awful lot of them today. It makes me very happy.
11532
11533
11534	There you go; a 160-line dissertation on why questions go unanswered.
11535	Now don't let me hear you saying nobody ever answers your questions.
11536
11537	--
11538	Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
11539	The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
11540	%
11541	>> BTW, would it be easier to cope with international text using Python?
11542	>Sigh... you're breaking my heart. Ask Jack Jansen, he probably knows.
11543
11544	If I were really evel, I would point out that the newest TCL (8.1) has
11545	support for international character sets and Unicode. But then, mentioning
11546	TCL in this newsfroup would be really bad. So, of course, I don't do that.
11547
11548	Ups. I'm so sorry ... ;-)
11549
11550	bye, Georg
11551	%
11552	I personally do not believe in object orientation as a security model
11553	(nor as a general programming paradigm), but feel free to try to
11554	convince me.
11555
11556	[ Or maybe I confuse you with somebody else and some other posting ]
11557
11558	Linus
11559	%
11560	++ how can i strip new lines out at var.
11561	++
11562
11563	Removing new lines is very tricky, as the manual tells you so. Ignore the
11564	complicated things in the manual, and put in this neat little trick:
11565
11566	$var=join+q,,,grep{ord$[[qq$\137$]]<10 or+10<ord}split+q,,,$var;
11567
11568	If you're old enough not to read the manual, you won't have a problem
11569	understanding the above line.
11570
11571	Abigail
11572	%
11573	I fixed the problem by mounting the SCO volume on the SunOS box, and since
11574	1995 the problem has gone away together with the SCO machine.
11575	%
11576	++ Hi Does anybody know how to upload many graphic files at the push of a
11577	++ button?
11578	Yes.
11579
11580	++ 100 pictures or so?
11581	Yes.
11582
11583	++ Can I do it in Perl?
11584	Yes.
11585
11586	Your question isn't Perl specific. Please ask in the relevant
11587	newsgroup. alt.button.play
11588
11589	Abigail
11590	%
11591	perly gates - The way to perl; Enter hackerdom.
11592
11593	perly Gates - Contradictio in Terminis.
11594
11595	Martien
11596	%
11597	Ren hat weder von Sinnhaftigkeit noch von Kausalität geschrieben, sondern
11598	nur von Logik. Logik und Kausalität sind in unserem (normalen) Denken zwar
11599	eng miteinander verknüpft, sind aber nicht dasselbe. Sinn ist hingegen noch
11600	etwas Drittes und ganz verschiedenes! "Sinn" bedeutet mindestens, daß eine
11601	Sache eine gewisse Richtung hat, wie in "Uhrzeigersinn". Meistens bedeutet
11602	Sinn aber, daß eine Sache einen bestimmten Zweck erfüllt. Auch darf man
11603	nicht "verursachen" mit "begründen" verwechseln, weil die beiden
11604	unterschiedlich sind. Die Existenz muß auch keinen Sinn haben, um eine
11605	Ursache zu haben. Das sind zwei völlig voneinander unabhängige Sachen. Die
11606	Existenz hat einen Sinn, also eine Richtung, wenn wir unserer Existenz eine
11607	Richtung geben. Dieser Sinn kann auf etwas abzielen, was außerhalb unserer
11608	selbst steht, muß aber nicht... Sie kann auch einen Sinn haben, der schon da
11609	war, bevor wir uns danach ausgerichtet haben - von all dem schreibt Ren aber
11610	nicht. ;)
11611
11612	Worauf Ren wohl hinaus wollte, ist, daß wenn die Logik des begrenzten Raumes
11613	nicht gilt, daß dann die Logik schlechthin hinfällig wird und so jedes Sein
11614	fragwürdig wird. Das ist aber nicht der Fall, da die Logik, die er von den
11615	Grenzen des Raumes aufstellt, gar keine wirkliche Logik ist, sondern nur die
11616	Grenzen des menschlichen Verstandes zeigt. Er kann sich nicht vorstellen,
11617	daß außerhalb der Grenzen des Raumes "Nichts" ist, weil man sich als Mensch
11618	das Nichts nicht vorstellen kann.
11619
11620	Darüber hinaus meinte er, daß die "Existenz unlogisch" würde. Dieser Satz
11621	ist vollkommen unverständlich. Denn entweder ist etwas, oder es ist nicht.
11622	Das ist auch schon die ganze Logik einer Existenz. (Aristoteles: Satz vom
11623	ausgeschlossenen Dritten) Unlogisch wäre, wenn etwas ist, das nicht ist oder
11624	wenn etwas nicht ist, das ist.
11625
11626	Von der Unfähigkeit des Menschen, sich einen unbegrenzten aber endlichen
11627	Raum (oder wie auch immer der Weltraum nun aussieht) vorzustellen auf die
11628	"Unlogik der Existenz" zu schließen, ist aber wohl nicht ganz möglich, zumal
11629	eine Existenz nicht unlogisch sein kann. Was sollte das auch heißen? Daher
11630	ist das Problem, das Ren aufwirft, nur ein Scheinproblem. Die Existenz an
11631	sich wird nicht in Frage gestellt dadurch, daß man sich etwas - egal was -
11632	nicht vorstellen kann. Er verwechselt die Begriffe "unlogisch" und
11633	"unvorstellbar".
11634
11635	Thomas.Decker@lrz.uni-muenchen.de
11636	%
11637	Marcel Richter wrote:
11638	> Marcel Richter - IQ: 3538327
11639	^^^
11640	fehlt da nicht irgendwo ein Komma.... =?-)
11641	%
11642	The X server has to be the biggest program I've ever seen that doesn't
11643	do anything for you. --Ken Thompson
11644	%
11645	linux-2.1.92/fs/autofs/root.c:
11646	printk("autofs: trying to recover, but prepare for Armageddon\n");
11647	%
11648	>>Vincent DiPietro, the discoverer of the face on mars, has thrown in
11649	>>the towel, and said that the face on mars is a pile of rocks.
11650	>Was sollte es denn sonst sein?
11651
11652	An artificial pile of rocks.
11653	%
11654	> ps: mal nebenbei: eine unbekannte variable beim analysieren des
11655	> marsgesichtes ist es, dass mensch gar nicht weiss, wie die lebende,
11656	> gedachte oder sonstige vorlage eigentlich aussieht. dazu kommt natuerlich
11657	> noch das fehlende wissen um die intention des "kuenstlers", ob er
11658	> beispielsweise nur aspekte bzw. partien eines gesichtes integrieren wollte
11659	> - und natuerlich, ob es ueberhaupt kunst ist:)
11660
11661	Ganz genau. Und das Matterhorn ist eine palaeoimpressionistische Studie des
11662	Geruchsorgans der Rasse der Ciabattanimalier. Aber das wussten hier
11663	sicherlich schon alle. Das ganze Universum ist ausserdem eigentlich nur ein
11664	grosser Flipperautomat.
11665
11666	Christoph Schulte Moenting - ubec@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
11667	%
11668	> Kris Weilemann schrieb
11669	>
11670	> >MIR ging es neulich aehnlich. Ich wurde von Ausserirdischen entfuehrt.
11671	> >Ich wurde eingesperrt in einem dunklem Raum mit langen Sitzreihen und mit
11672	> >einer Popcorn-artigen Substanz gefuettert. Nach 2 Stunden war alles
11673	> >vorbei. Einen Tag spaeter stellte ich fest, dass mir 18 Mark im
11674	> >Geldbeutel fehlten. Ist das nicht krass? -Kris.
11675	%
11676	... Jazz ist nicht nur das erfolgreichste, sondern auch das einzige originäre Kunstgenre,
11677	daß die USA jemals hervorgebracht haben.
11678
11679	"Apropos Musik", HR2 am 16.4.98
11680	%
11681	http://www.rsw.com/
11682
11683	The Unix shell as a 4GL
11684
11685	Unix provides hundreds of programs that can be piped together to easily
11686	perform almost any function imaginable. Nothing comes close to providing the
11687	functions that come standard with Unix. Programs and philosophies carried
11688	over from other systems put walls between the user and Unix, and the power
11689	of Unix is thrown away. The shell, extended with a few relational operators,
11690	is the fourth generation database scripting language most appropriate to the
11691	Unix environment.
11692	%
11693	Perl is incredibly difficult to parse. For example, what's the difference
11694	between these:
11695
11696	time /3 ;#/; print "hello";
11697	sin /3 ;#/; print "goodbye";
11698
11699	Right. The first one is time divided by 3, and the print is in a comment.
11700	The second one is the sin of the result of a regular expression match for "3
11701	;#", and the print gets executed!
11702
11703	There's no pure BNF in the world that'll handle that. And remember, with
11704	"use" and prototypes available, whether you parse something like "sin" or
11705	"time" depends on its definition in some other file, somewhere in the galaxy
11706	(or even decided by Perl code in a BEGIN block, that evals a prototype!).
11707
11708	Which led Larry to say at one point: "the only thing that can parse Perl is
11709	'perl'".
11710
11711	--
11712	Randal L. Schwartz
11713	%
11714	Ronald J Kimball <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu> writes:
11715
11716	> Pascal AMRAM wrote:
11717	> > Subject: MSEXCHANGE / OUTLOOK
11718	>
11719	> So here I am trying to figure out what an M sex change is....
11720
11721	It's obviously the opposite of an F sex change. HTH.
11722
11723	--
11724	Jonathan Feinberg jdf@pobox.com Sunny Brooklyn, NY
11725	%
11726	The management (my cats) made me say this.
11727	%
11728	uae-0.6.9/custom.c:800:
11729	write_log ("Program is torturing BPLCON1.\n");
11730	%
11731	uae-0.6.9/src/memory.c:363
11732	write_log ("Your Amiga program just did something terribly stupid\n");
11733	%
11734	Closures make sense in any programming language where you
11735	can have the return value of a function be itself a
11736	function, as you can in Perl. Note that some languages
11737	provide anonymous functions but are not capable of
11738	providing proper closures; the Python language, for
11739	example.
11740	%
11741	When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to
11742	resemble a nail.
11743	%
11744	> but all I get are 501 errors, method not supported. I am not 100% sure what
11745	> I did wrong.
11746
11747	What you did wrong was post a microsoft server question to a perl
11748	newsgroup.
11749	%
11750	I am trying to learn Perl on my Windows 97 system. In particular...
11751	%
11752	>Es kamen Außerirdische, die Pyramiden bauten und andere Wunder
11753	>vollbrachten. Dafür wurden sie vergöttert. Diese außerirdischen bauten dann
11754	>wahrscheinlich auch die Cydonia Region.
11755
11756	Etwa zehnmal zu oft 'Stargate' gesehen, was?
11757	%
11758	>Die Menschheit kämpft seit Millionen von Jahren gegeneinander.
11759
11760	Welche Hälfte ist denn da die grössere? :o)
11761	%
11762	...am still rebuilding after being hit with a clock changing virus it reset
11763	my clock to 2039 unfortunately for me my OS is beta 98 needless to say it
11764	expired instantly!!!
11765	%
11766	From: Per Bothner <bothner@cygnus.com>
11767	To: Pal Engstad <engstad@hunt.inmet.com>
11768
11769	> Linus Torvalds requires that all code in the source is using a tab
11770	> length of 8 spaces, and he also states that you are a bad programmer
11771	> if you write code with more than 3 indentation levels.
11772
11773	I didn't know that Linus Torvalds has done research on programming styles.
11774	He much have, since why else would you have the audacity quote him as
11775	an authority, on a list where there are dozens of people with more
11776	than double Linus's programming experience?
11777
11778	> This has caused the code to be fairly easy to read and maintainance is
11779	> pretty straight forward.
11780
11781	Irrelevant - a kernel is a lot simpler than an optimizing compiler,
11782	in terms of complexity of algorithms and data structures.
11783	%
11784	Nach der Diskussion muss ich akzeptieren, dass die juengst erfolgte
11785	Erdbeschleunigung von - 0,6 auf - 0,4 Millisekunden kein zwingender Beweis
11786	fuer einen Permanentantrieb ist. Aber: In letzter Zeit kommt es bei mir immer
11787	wieder vor, dass ich Dinge einfach weiss. Selbst wenn ich sie nicht begruenden
11788	kann. Ich weiss trotzdem dass sie stimmen muessen und der Antrieb existiert.
11789	Mit der Zeit findet sich dann auch die Begruendung.
11790	%
11791	Wir suchen neue AussenMitarbeiterInnen... (S.Pernar@Link-Goe)
11792	%
11793	hyperltext (hy'perl-text), n. double-quotish-interpolated hypertext markup:
11794	Example:
11795	print qq[[<LI><A HREF="$self->[[url]]">@[[[ucfirst $self->[[title]]]]]</A>\n]];
11796	%
11797	liperlsuction: What happens to any script longer than 10 lines once
11798	Randal gets his hands on it
11799	%
11800	Uperl Volta - country where perl programmers control the electricity.
11801	%
11802	> Anybody successfully installed the win32 version of Perl?
11803
11804	No! Millions of people don't use perl on win32 machines. You may be the
11805	first if you get it working.
11806	%
11807	> Macintosh.
11808	> Think different.
11809
11810	Think Again.
11811	%
11812	Bill.Cilnton@dyselxia.com
11813	%
11814	tsatan@hotmail.com writes:
11815	> Why does perl have the "push" and "unshift" functions? ...
11816	> push @nums, 4; is the same as @nums = (@nums, 4);
11817
11818	What do you want, Scheme? ;)
11819	%
11820	# There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'.
11821	# It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
11822	%
11823	\| I am returning this otherwise good typing paper to you because
11824	\| someone has printed gibberish all over it and put your name at the
11825	\| top.
11826	%
11827	I had a student ask about the UN9 operating system. I didn't understabd what
11828	he was talking about so he wrote UNIX on the board.
11829	%
11830	On 1 Apr 98 17:34:23 GMT, Schulung7 wrote:
11831	^^^^^^^^^
11832	>Was haltet ihr vom UFO-Absturz in Rosswell?
11833
11834	Nichts. Und jetzt geh woanders spielen.
11835	%
11836	>Kann man hier irgendwie mal die UFOs reinbringen, um die es in dieser NG
11837	>gehen soll?
11838
11839	Nein, der Datentyp wäre inkompatibel. UFOs sind per Definitionem
11840	materielle Objekte (obwohl das zur Zeit fraglich ist ;-), die sich in
11841	diesem Medium nicht austauschen lassen.
11842	%
11843	Wer redet hier denn von der "Hui Hui"? Ich sprach von "Hui! Hui!".
11844	%
11845	>> nein...ist kein Sender. Eine taiwanesische Sekte hat behauptet, daß am
11846	>> 25.3. auf allen TVs der Welt Gott auf Kanal 18 erscheinen würde.
11847	>> Ist natuerlich nicht eingetreten.
11848	>
11849	>Aber unsere Haus-Sat-Anlage geht seither nicht mehr.
11850
11851	Ein Zeichen! Er hat uns ein Zeichen gegeben! Zieht alle euren linken
11852	Schuh aus!
11853	%
11854	>Klingt nach Erdstillstand.
11855
11856	Ich bin entsetzt. Man hat hoffentlich sofort Wiederbedrehungsmaßnahmen
11857	eingeleitet?
11858	%
11859	Mars Global Surveyor Imaging Schedule
11860
11861
11862	First opportunity
11863	Approximate
11864	Orbit Internet
11865	Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11866
11867	4-3-98 09:58/1:58 a.m. 216 Viking Lander 1 April 6
11868	4-3-98 21:37/1:37 p.m. 217 Viking Lander 2 April 7
11869	4-4-98 09:16/1:16 a.m. 218 Mars Pathfinder April 7
11870	4-5-98 08:33/12:33 a.m. 220 Cydonia April 6 (mid-a.m.)
11871
11872	Second opportunity
11873	Approximate
11874	Orbit Internet
11875	Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11876
11877	4-12-98 15:23/ 8:23 a.m. 235 Viking Lander 1 April 14
11878	4-13-98 03:01/ 8:01 p.m. 236 Viking Lander 2 April 15
11879	4-13-98 14:40/ 7:40 a.m. 237 Mars Pathfinder April 15
11880	4-14-98 13:57/ 6:57 a.m. 239 Cydonia April 14 (mid-p.m.)
11881
11882	Third opportunity
11883	Approximate
11884	Orbit Internet
11885	Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11886
11887	4-21-98 20:45/1:45 p.m. 254 Viking Lander 1 April 23
11888	4-22-98 08:23/1:23 a.m. 255 Viking Lander 2 April 24
11889	4-22-98 20:02/1:02 p.m. 256 Mars Pathfinder April 24
11890	4-23-98 19:18/12:18 p.m. 258 Cydonia April 24 (mid-a.m.)
11891
11892	%
11893	> >2. Der Menschheit ist durch Inzucht entstanden. Laut biologischem
11894	> >Wissen, unwahrscheinlich, da Mutation und Mißbildungen auftreten
11895	> >würden.
11896	>
11897	> Vermutung: Das ist auch aufgetreten. Siehe levitische "Gesetze" zur
11898	> "Behandlung" von "Aussatz" insb. im 3. "Mose". Die hatten schon Probleme.
11899	Sag mal, bei Dir piepts wohl nicht mehr richtig! Aussatz, heute besser
11900	unter dem Namen Lepra bekannt, ist keine Erbkrankheit. Es ist eine
11901	(heute heilbare) Infektionskrankheit, verursacht durch Bakterien.
11902	Also nichts von Inzucht, wie Du das in Deinem latenten Rassenwahn
11903	implizierst.
11904	%
11905	> You might please start up with reading more than one sentence - a skill
11906	> quite familiar in Europe, but as it seems not in the USA.
11907	%
11908	Yup. Instead of crashing Xservers, now you have crashing kernels.
11909	Big improvement.
11910	%
11911	-- "Hey look, this new card is for windows and only $xx!"
11912	-- "Yes, but it's braindead and will hurt your performance. Take that one
11913	over there. Besides, it's not an ope.."
11914	-- "Why that one?"
11915	-- "Because it's better, sinc.."
11916	-- "But I can do the same with this one, it's cheaper, and its for windows!"
11917	%
11918	In der Klinik, in der ich mal arbeiten musste, hatten wir einen echten
11919	Koenig Ludwig II und mindestens fuenf Stueck Jesus - sowas gibts halt,
11920	wenn Du verstehst, was ich meine.
11921	%
11922	> Hast Du mal einen Stein beobachtet, der eine Unzahl komplexer
11923	> Vorgaenge paresentiert, einschliesslich der Hervorbringung
11924	> etlicher Lebensformen?
11925
11926	Jepp. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "zahlreich".
11927
11928	> Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der sich mal eben
11929	> "verwandelt", und auf dem dann lauter Wesen rumkrabbeln,
11930	> die aus ihm selbst entsprungen sind?
11931
11932	Klar doch. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "lauter".
11933
11934	> Ueberspitzt: Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der
11935	> ploetzlich zum Lebewesen wird und Dich fragt, wer oder was
11936	> er eigentlich ist?
11937
11938	Tja, da hören die Übereinstimmungen auf. Ich dachte Du meinst
11939	Erwin Stein. Den kenne ich. Der hat zwei Kinder. Die krabbeln
11940	ab und zu auf ihm herum. Der ist aber nicht plötzlich zum Le-
11941	bewesen geworden, sondern den gibt es nun schon ein wenig
11942	länger. Und er hat mich auch noch nie gefragt, wer oder was
11943	er eigentlich ist. Zumindest nicht in einem Zustand, den man
11944	als "normal" bezeichnen könnte. So wird das anscheinend nix.
11945	Ciao
11946	Stefan
11947	%
11948	"These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After
11949	unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including
11950	all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer."
11951	(http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/pc99.htm)
11952	%
11953	Video cards have write-only registers. (of course that is bad design) Let's
11954	say that register 13 is write-only, as is common. It holds an index that
11955	determines what register 69 (also write-only) actually changes. If you write
11956	to register 13 while the accelerator is active, you lock the PCI bus. You
11957	can't determine if the accelerator is active without reading from register
11958	42, but you can't interpret the contents of that register correctly without
11959	knowing what the last accelerator command was. Reading from register 13 gets
11960	you some useless (unrelated) info and _also_ toggles the accelerator on and
11961	off.
11962	%
11963	Join the Army,
11964	Meet interesting people,
11965	Kill them.
11966	%
11967	> Wie entsteht Materie? Ich koennte mir vorstellen, dass Energie in Materie
11968	> umwandelbar ist.
11969
11970	E=m*c^2 (Schon mal gehoert?) (Schon mal verstanden??)
11971	%
11972	>nach der die Pygmäen geheime UFO-Basen in ausgehöhlten Baumstämmen
11973	>unterhalten (Vorsicht: das war ein Witz :-) ).
11974	%
11975	> (Bernhard Nahrgang) wrote:
11976	>
11977	> >> Logische Annahme: Die Erde waechst entweder kontinuierlich, oder periodisch
11978	> >> ruckartig.
11979	> >wie kann jemand mit dem IQ von 130 nur SO SELTEN BLOEDE sein??
11980	>
11981	> Norbert ist nicht selten blöde...
11982
11983	:-)
11984	%
11985	SAT 1 Teletext: Ein Asteroid mit einem Durchmesser von fast einem Kilometer
11986	rast mit großer Geschwindigkeit auf die Erde zu. US-Astronomen befürchten:
11987	"XF11" könnte im Jahr 2028 auf der Erde einschlagen. Die Folgen wären
11988	verheerend. "Der rasende Stein aus dem All ist eine Gefahr", warnt Jack G.
11989	Hills vom US-Kernforschungszentrum Los Alamos: "Wenn er die Erde trifft,
11990	wird er die Sprengkraft von 320.000 Megatonnen Dynamit haben." Das
11991	entspricht dem Zweimillionenfachen der Atombombe...
11992
11993	ARD/ZDF Teletext: ASTEROID MIT KURS AUF ERDE ENTDECKT Amerikanische
11994	Astronomen haben einen Asteroiden ausgemacht, der in 30 Jahren der Erde
11995	gefährlich nahekommen wird. Die Gefahr, daß der Asteroid einschlagen wird,
11996	sei gering, aber auch nicht völlig auszuschließen. Nach derzeitigen
11997	Berechnungen wird der Asteroid mit der Bezeichnung "1997 XF11" am 26.Oktober
11998	2028 unserem Planeten am nächsten kommen. "1997 XF11" hat etwa einen
11999	Durchmesser von 1,6 Kilometern. Erstmals käme ein Objekt dieser Größe der
12000	Erde so nahe, hieß es in dem Bericht der Internationalen Astronomischen
12001	Union.
12002
12003	RTL Teletext: Himmelskörper rast auf Erde zu Ein Asteroid wird im Jahr 2028
12004	der Erde gefährlich nahe kommen. Amerikanische Wissenschaftler haben die
12005	Chance eines Zusammenpralls auf eins zu tausend berechnet. Sollte der
12006	Asteroid, der einen Durchmesser von 1,8 Kilometern hat, aufprallen, könnte
12007	er eine gigantische Flutwelle auslösen, so die Forscher. Auch ein genaues
12008	Datum haben die Wissenschaftler schon errechnet: Von Europa aus wäre das
12009	Naturschauspiel am 26. Oktober 2028 zu beobachten.
12010	%
12011	* Linux Viruscan.....
12012	Windows 95 Found Remove it ? (Y/y)
12013	%
12014	>>Hmm, welche Behauptungen entsprechen denn deiner Meinung nach der
12015	>>Realität?
12016	>>
12017	>>Das es das FBI wirklich gibt?
12018	>>Das Scully frigide ist, und deshalb mit Mulder nichts anfangen möchte?
12019	>>Das Mulder homosexuell ist, und deshalb mit Scully nichts anfangen möchte?
12020	>>Das der CSM einen Vertrag mit Marlb*ro hat?
12021	>
12022	>Hinter diesen "Fragen" erkenne ich z.B. eine gut bekannte Strategie. Die
12023	>FBI-Frage ist bewusst absurd. Das Abgleiten ins Sexuelle hat ebenfalls
12024	%
12025	"'You're a Cirrus. You're crap. I'm an S3. I rule. Thank you and please drive through.'"
12026	%
12027	> How could you have perl take a set of numbers (1,2,3,4) and put them
12028	> into a random order???
12029	>
12030
12031	@array=qw(1 2 3 4);
12032	print "@array[1,3,2,0]\n";
12033
12034	I've checked this against other possible random orderings
12035	of these numbers, and this ordering is at least as random as
12036	any of the other possible ones. The benefit of this one being
12037	that it begins with the number 2, which is my favorite random
12038	number less than 42.
12039	%
12040	From what I am reading Win98 and NT5.0 will be getting rid of all that
12041	crap anyway. Seems that Microsoft has invented something called TCP/IP and
12042	another really revolutionary concept called DNS that eliminates the
12043	netbios crap too. All that arping from browsers is going to go away.
12044	I also hear rumors that they are on the verge of breakthrough discoveries
12045	called NFS, and LPD too. Given enough time and money, they might
12046	eventually invent Unix.
12047	%
12048	In Germany, where typeface design has always been a significant part of
12049	the cultural heritage, and where typefounding has remained an important
12050	business, there are more than one kind of copyright-like protections for
12051	typefaces. Certain long-standing industrial design protection laws have
12052	been used to protect typeface designs in litigation over royalties and
12053	plagiarisms. Further, there is a recent law, the so-called
12054	"Schriftzeichengesetz" enacted in 1981, that specifically protects
12055	typeface designs. New designs are registered, as is done with
12056	copyright in most countries. This law only protects new, original
12057	designs. It is available to non-German designers and firms. Therefore,
12058	some type firms and designers routinely copyright new designs in West
12059	Germany. This gives a degree of protection for products marketed in
12060	Germany. Since multinational corporations may find it cheaper to
12061	license a design for world-wide use rather than deal with a special case
12062	in one country, the German law does encourage licensing on a broader
12063	scale than would initially seem to be the case.
12064	%
12065	[linux processes vs. nt/solaris threads]
12066	Rob Pike pointed out that the solution to slow process creation is
12067	faster process creation, not another kernel abstraction.
12068	%
12069	Does anybody know how to communicate between a PC and a modem,
12070	using a Perl CGI script?
12071	%
12072	>I really don't know crap about PERL. How is it different from JAVA?
12073
12074	One tiny difference: Java can crash your browser. It happened to me last
12075	week.
12076	%
12077	Brieweb> I heard Randal Schwartz say he could write an entire httpd server in 90 lines
12078	Brieweb> of PERL.
12079	No, that's an http proxy server. A simple web server is much shorter.
12080	From "perldoc HTTP::Daemon"...
12081	[Randal Schwartz]
12082	%
12083	But the possibility of abuse may be a good reason for leaving
12084	capabilities out of other computer languages, it's not a good reason
12085	for leaving capabilities out of Perl.
12086	[Larry Wall in `Macros'. [[perl5-porters]]]
12087	%
12088	Yes: Java's main advantage over Perl is that it's hard to use for casual
12089	programmers, so keeps all but the most intrepid programmers away from it.
12090	It has no decent support for string processing, allowing you to spend
12091	hours at useless debugging. It has a very restrictive and static system
12092	to make sure you don't try anything interesting. It makes sure that you
12093	use objects, by golly, because James Gosling said so. It's easy for C++
12094	programmers to use, and hard for shell or BASIC programmers to use. It
12095	also only runs on a few systems, locking its customers into a a closed
12096	system and restricting their options.
12097	[Tom Christiansen in `Java Vs. Perl']
12098	%
12099	<Bill_Gates> Where do you want to go today?
12100	<Phase_5> Where do go tomorrow?
12101	<BlueFlux> Where were you yesterday?!?!
12102	%
12103	"It's not to control, but to protect the citizens of Singapore. In our
12104	society, you can state your views, but they have to be correct."
12105	Ernie Hai
12106	Coordinator of Singapore Government Internet Project
12107	%
12108	: I very much prefer a useful error message than a "it produced the wrong
12109	: results" report from the users.
12110
12111	if i got even "it produced the wrong results" from our users, i would
12112	be in 7th heaven. ours often mail us with such insightful requests as
12113	"can you tell me my email address?" no, sorry, that should be "CAN U
12114	TEL ME MY E MAIL ADRES DUDE?!!!?? HURRY!!!"
12115	%
12116	There are many intelligent species in the Universe.
12117	They are all owned by cats.
12118	%
12119	Why dignify your unsustainable, unjustifiable, unprovable feeble
12120	attempts at character assassination with anything resembling a reply?
12121	You only make yourself look foolish by mouthing off like that.
12122	%
12123	From: L & K Olson <kolson@mbnet.mb.ca>
12124	Subject: If they wrote error messages in haiku ...
12125
12126	Yesterday it worked
12127	Today it is not working
12128	Windows is like that
12129	- - -
12130	wind catches lily
12131	scatt'ring petals to the wind:
12132	segmentation fault
12133	- - -
12134	Three things are certain:
12135	Death, taxes, and lost data.
12136	Guess which has occurred.
12137	- - -
12138	A file that big?
12139	It might be very useful.
12140	But now it is gone.
12141	- - -
12142	Windows NT crashed.
12143	I am the Blue Screen of Death.
12144	No one hears your screams.
12145	- - -
12146	Errors have occurred.
12147	We won't tell you where or why.
12148	Lazy programmers.
12149	- - -
12150	Seeing my great fault
12151	Through darkening blue windows
12152	I begin again
12153	- - -
12154	The code was willing,
12155	It considered your request,
12156	But the chips were weak.
12157	- - -
12158	Printer not ready.
12159	Could be a fatal error.
12160	Have a pen handy?
12161	- - -
12162	Server's poor response
12163	Not quick enough for browser.
12164	Timed out, plum blossom.
12165	- - -
12166	Chaos reigns within.
12167	Reflect, repent, and reboot.
12168	Order shall return.
12169	- - -
12170	Login incorrect.
12171	Only perfect spellers may
12172	enter this system.
12173	- - -
12174	This site has been moved.
12175	We'd tell you where, but then we'd
12176	have to delete you.
12177	- - -
12178	ABORTED effort:
12179	Close all that you have.
12180	You ask way too much.
12181	- - -
12182	First snow, then silence.
12183	This thousand dollar screen dies
12184	so beautifully.
12185	- - -
12186	With searching comes loss
12187	and the presence of absence:
12188	"My Novel" not found.
12189	- - -
12190	The Tao that is seen
12191	Is not the true Tao, until
12192	You bring fresh toner.
12193	- - -
12194	The Web site you seek
12195	cannot be located but
12196	endless others exist
12197	- - -
12198	Stay the patient course
12199	Of little worth is your ire
12200	The network is down
12201	- - -
12202	A crash reduces
12203	your expensive computer
12204	to a simple stone.
12205	- - -
12206	There is a chasm
12207	of carbon and silicon
12208	the software can't bridge
12209	- - -
12210	To have no errors
12211	Would be life without meaning
12212	No struggle, no joy
12213	- - -
12214	You step in the stream,
12215	but the water has moved on.
12216	This page is not here.
12217	- - -
12218	No keyboard present
12219	Hit F1 to continue
12220	Zen engineering?
12221	- - -
12222	Hal, open the file
12223	Hal, open the damn file, Hal
12224	open it, please Hal
12225	- - -
12226	Out of memory.
12227	We wish to hold the whole sky,
12228	But we never will.
12229	- - -
12230	Having been erased,
12231	The document you're seeking
12232	Must now be retyped.
12233	- - -
12234	The ten thousand things
12235	How long do any persist?
12236	Netscape, too, has gone.
12237	- - -
12238	Rather than a beep
12239	Or a rude error message,
12240	These words: "File not found."
12241	- - -
12242	Serious error.
12243	All shortcuts have disappeared
12244	Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
12245	%
12246	"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way
12247	to factor large prime numbers." -- Bill Gates from "The Road Ahead," p. 265.
12248	%
12249	> What is the Windows equivalent of the first line used for
12250	> UNIX (#!/usr/local/bin/perl) that tells where the Perl interpreter is?
12251
12252	Windows hasn't gotten quite as far in functionality as, say, BSD Unix in the
12253	early 1980s.
12254	%
12255	> I have a chat script, that will work fine for a bit then after a while
12256	> the private messages will stop working. It might be because I changed
12257	> something, but chances are that isn't the case. I re-install a fresh
12258	> copy, paths are correct, and they still don't work
12259
12260	I think you are experiencing GOVERNMENT CONTROL. You see, everyone
12261	with a chat script is being scrutinised by the department of CHAT
12262	control. Whenever they see some message they don't like, they
12263	introduce some little goblin called feature-creep in your program. if
12264	you have lots of these little devils, your program migth acquire so
12265	many new features that it just stops working.
12266
12267	This also applies to Microsoft products.
12268
12269	> Does it make sense for certain features to just not work?! If you can
12270	> help, or have suggestions, get back to me, PLEASE:)
12271
12272	Yes, it makes perfect sense. Especially if they're features which
12273	really are bugs. And especially if they're 'private' messages. You
12274	know perfectly well that the government doesn't like private messages.
12275
12276	Hope this explains what's going on
12277	Martien Verbruggen
12278	%
12279	...code? If you're on a misconfigured NT server (is that redundant?), you...
12280	%
12281	X11R6.1-based free X server compiles, links and crashes under IRIX(TM).
12282	%
12283	-------------- please bite here ------------- bitte hier abbeissen ---------
12284	%
12285	"Frag mal, auf was fuer uptimes man kommt, wenn man Software-Entwicklung
12286	unter NT macht..." "Das koennen bis zu dreissig Minuten werden - in der
12287	Mittagspause." -- Andreas Bogk, Kai Fett, de.alt.sysadmin.recovery
12288	%
12289	> ++ A lot of posters here have .sigs that include perl one liners.
12290	> ++ Is there a safe way to run them, and be assured that they wont
12291	> ++ damage and/or erase files? (or e-mail off my shadow file)
12292	>
12293	> Just make sure you understand it ;)
12294
12295	I nominate Abigail for best response of the year with this one. Come to
12296	think of it, I nominate it for best response of next year, too.
12297	%
12298	Your moderator will be spending the next week on a beach on a small island
12299	where the phones don't work very well, so there won't be any comp.compilers
12300	until the 28th. Any messages you send in will wait here until I get back and
12301	should be posted on March 1st or 2nd.
12302	%
12303	But now, in comp.lang.perl.misc, you have a bunch of people who aren't
12304	even asking how to make the pieces fit together, but what the
12305	individual pieces are. ("How do I get my lego project to roll accross
12306	the table?" "You use one of those pieces that have the wheels
12307	attached.") Or questions that aren't about building at all. ("The
12308	motor stopped moving. How do I get it to start again?" "The batteries
12309	are probably dead. You can buy new batteries at any department or
12310	convienience store.")
12311	%
12312	: how do i make my perl script run?
12313	Get up at 91 minutes before dawn, clothe yourself in neon green body
12314	%
12315	for some reason Windoze users don't seem to expect docs to come with an archive
12316	>>> ToiLeTGoD
12317
12318	Well, well.. I always wondered who/what made that flush thingy work.
12319	Pretty cool name, dude. (not)
12320	%
12321	Ummm...create "comp.lang.perl.wizards", make it moderated and all posts,
12322	including xposts, go into /dev/null. Most FAQers won't have the Usenet
12323	background to understand that such groups are either a) a wasteland
12324	populated (briefly) by persons like themselves, or b) point to /dev/null.
12325	%
12326	Lazy people never bother to actually read the manual. Instead they (like
12327	kids) pick something with big, colorful buttons.
12328	-- Eugene Tyurin <gene@insti.physics.sunysb.edu>
12329	%
12330	The Average Person's Axioms of First Order Predicate Logic:
12331	(A => B) => (B => A)
12332	(There exists) x A(x) => (For all) x A(x)
12333	(A => C) & (B => C) => (A => B) - Warren Vonroeschlaub
12334	%
12335	cal 9 1752
12336	%
12337	Installing unix fixes the [VMS] bug.
12338	-Barry Shein
12339	%
12340	And this horrible free-for-all will be left to children wondering around
12341	by themselves in the dark because they refuse to turn on the light and
12342	read the manual.
12343	%
12344	"SPARC" is "CRAPS" backwards --Rob Pike
12345	%
12346	I increasingly begin to understand why some universities require
12347	that its compsci majors study the Euclid's Prime Number Theorem,
12348	the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, Cantor's Diagonalization Proof,
12349	Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem, and the ramifications of Halting Problem
12350	in everyday life. These may not be involved in daily programming, but
12351	it helps develop a rigorous mind. And it gives those who would progress
12352	from typist to word-processor devotee to HTML documenter to CGI scripter
12353	to distributed multithreaded operating systems design specialist cause
12354	for pause. You just can't do that without proper training.
12355	%
12356	comp.lang.perl.i'm-from-microsoft-so-won't-read-documentation
12357	%
12358	I suggest you install a newsserver, and keep a local spool. Anything else
12359	is too much work, and fairly silly. The Internet has catupulted even
12360	the Wintel victims past the days of BBS toys.
12361	%
12362	> Help help! Pls advise me thru email.
12363
12364	I advise you to buy a new keyboard; one that has all the keys you
12365	need.
12366	%
12367	Christian Fundamentalism: The doctrine that there is an absolutely
12368	powerful, infinitely knowledgeable, universe spanning entity that is
12369	deeply and personally concerned about my sex life.
12370	%
12371	I find the first particularly useful in destroying the miswrapped
12372	lines stemming from brain-damaged "it's just another word processor"
12373	newsreaders. You know,
12374	those postings that always seem to go to the edge of the line and then
12375	back
12376	again to the start, as this paragraph has. These are just too painful
12377	to read. Just kill them. It's not worth your time trying to figure
12378	out what they're saying.
12379	%
12380	It is most annoying to receive junk mail describing how to purchase 93
12381	million addresses, while knowing that yours is one of them.
12382	%
12383	I'm surprised Tom, how could it miss the "X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT;
12384	U)" header line? Personally, I find the attempted use of Netscape as a
12385	newsreader even worse then the attempted use of WinNT as an OS. :-)
12386
12387	But the combination.... sutters
12388	%
12389	Hm... my new killfile isn't detecting you're posting from Windows.
12390	Darn it.
12391	%
12392	At least he didn't post in all caps.
12393	%
12394	http://language.perl.com/CPAN-local/doc/FAQs/cgi/idiots-guide.html
12395	%
12396	I think the biggest problem with M.S.A. is that the scripts work for Matt, but
12397	the majority of people trying to use them are from the
12398	"Wintel/AOL/FrontPage/push-a-button/HTML-is-programming/no-programming-required"
12399	school of non-learning. It isn't a problem with the code, per se, but with those
12400	trying to use it.
12401	%
12402	"Linux can emulate an C64 on my AMDK6PR200 at full speed. Windows can't."
12403	%
12404	cdog wrote:
12405	>
12406	> Is this group active?
12407	No.
12408
12409	If you had spent half a second LOOKING at the group before posting, you
12410	probably could have come to that conclusion yourself.
12411
12412	On a personal note, I died 3 years, 8 days, 5 minutes, 16 seconds, and
12413	345 milliseconds ago, but who's counting.
12414	%
12415	"Security through obscurity is no security at all."
12416	-comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup posting
12417	%
12418	"Windows 95 will now attempt to blow chunks across your primary partition.
12419	Press any key to continue..."
12420	%
12421	NT 5.0 is the last nail in the Unix coffin. Interestingly, Unix
12422	isn't in the coffin... It's wondering what the heck is sealing
12423	itself into a wooden box 6 feet underground...
12424	%
12425	The Wall St Journal (1996-01-22, page 1) reported that Cuba is
12426	considering jumping across the International Date Line, just so that
12427	it's the first into the year 2000. So it's possible you'll have to
12428	adjust your travel plans.
12429	%
12430	"Wo kämen wir hin, wenn alle sagten, wo kämen wir hin, und niemand ginge
12431	hin, um einmal zu schauen, wohin man käme, wenn man ginge." -- Kurt Marti
12432	%
12433	The Takeuchi function is a popular benchmark of function calling due to its
12434	highly recursive nature. It's defined as:
12435
12436	tak x y z = z, if y >= x
12437	= tak (tak (x-1) y z) (tak (y - 1) z x) (tak (z - 1) x y), otherwise
12438
12439	For this benchmark, the function is invoked as:
12440
12441	tak 18 12 6
12442	%
12443	"Nobody will ever need more than 640k RAM!"
12444	-- Bill Gates
12445	"Windows 95 needs at least 8 MB RAM."
12446	-- Bill Gates
12447	"Nobody will ever need Windows 95."
12448	-- logical conclusion
12449	%
12450	Year Name James Bond Book
12451	- ---- -------------------------------- -------------- ----
12452	50's James Bond TV Series Barry Nelson
12453	1962 Dr. No Sean Connery 1958
12454	1963 From Russia With Love Sean Connery 1957
12455	1964 Goldfinger Sean Connery 1959
12456	1965 Thunderball Sean Connery 1961
12457	1967* Casino Royale David Niven 1954
12458	1967 You Only Live Twice Sean Connery 1964
12459	1969 On Her Majesty's Secret Service George Lazenby 1963
12460	1971 Diamonds Are Forever Sean Connery 1956
12461	1973 Live And Let Die Roger Moore 1955
12462	1974 The Man With The Golden Gun Roger Moore 1965
12463	1977 The Spy Who Loved Me Roger Moore 1962 (novelette)
12464	1979 Moonraker Roger Moore 1955
12465	1981 For Your Eyes Only Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
12466	1983 Octopussy Roger Moore 1965
12467	1983* Never Say Never Again Sean Connery
12468	1985 A View To A Kill Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
12469	1987 The Living Daylights Timothy Dalton 1965 (novelette)
12470	* -- Not a Broccoli production.
12471	%
12472	Windows NT: n.
12473	32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit
12474	operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written
12475	by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
12476	%
12477	Auf der Kiste läuft EHNIX, das ist ZUNIX kompatibel.