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1 root 1.443 Systemd is a cancer and it will keep spreading until the host is
2     dead. Just like cancer it's not malicious, it sincerely believes it knows
3     better than the healthy cells it's infecting, but that doesn't make it
4     less lethal.
5    
6     [https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9552479&cid=52745591]
7     %
8 root 1.442 From: Richard Stallman
9    
10     [...]
11    
12     > then that sounds like a layering violation.
13    
14     The layering authority has no jurisdiction over GNU.
15     If this solution works, and nobody proposes a better one,
16     we won't let "layering" get in the way.
17     %
18 root 1.441 "Teyrnas Unedig Prydain Fawr a Gogledd Iwerddon" shortened to Teyrnas
19     "Unedig" or "Y Deyrnas Unedig" abbreviated "DU", or Rìoghachd Aonaichte
20     "Bhreatainn is Èireann a Tuath" shortened to Rìoghachd Aonaichte" are
21     "also now legal names for the UK.
22    
23     [Brian Inglis in 774ac519-ceb1-7c04-d2b5-2f2ed851cb61@SystematicSw.ab.ca]
24     %
25     From: Russ Allbery
26     To: tz@iana.org
27     Message-ID: <87h97n58bp.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>
28    
29     > Companies are unlikely to change their processes unless changes break
30     > existing processes (like the version change) or changes are documented
31     > in an RFC, which can be presented to SOx auditors and their ilk, to
32     > document and justify why they spent money and changed a process, along
33     > with the documentation on change impact including budget,
34     > authorizations, and the dozens of other side efforts of production
35     > changes, summarized above by DG as "That doesn’t work for everyone."
36    
37     A bit of a digression, but the way companies treat free software projects
38     and maintainers is a pet peeve of mine.
39    
40     It should be obvious that the only people a company can expect to follow
41     any of those rules are people the company is paying or otherwise has a
42     contractual relationship with that requires following those rules.
43     Otherwise, the company should be prepared to pay one of their employees to
44     jump through those hoops if they want those hoops jumped through.
45    
46     It's standard practice for companies who depend heavily on a free software
47     project to have an internal maintainer or advocate for that free software
48     project who will translate whatever the public maintainer does into the
49     form that the company needs to manage it internally, including maintaining
50     private branches as needed, pulling up unreleased patches as needed, and
51     adjusting for upstream changes that don't match the needs of the company
52     (or clearly advocating for compromises or modifications that work for the
53     entire community). This is a cost of doing business. My employer
54     certainly does this for free software we use. It's fairly normal.
55    
56     Some companies don't *want* to spend that money, and try to do it on the
57     cheap by not having that person or the mechanisms for importing free
58     software properly. A few of them then complain at the free software
59     maintainer when they run into problems. But those complaints should not
60     carry any more weight than the complaints of any other user, and should be
61     weighed against the work style, goals, and available time of the free
62     software maintainer. After all, the actor in this situation that has (by
63     far) the most resources and hence the most ability to adopt to changes,
64     whether they want to or not, is the company, not the free software
65     maintainer.
66     %
67 root 1.440 [About the Unicode CLDR (Common Locale Data Repository) project, specifically, timezone names]
68    
69     They also seem to think that abbreviations should be only used locally,
70     such as "BST" only being used by British English. One would think that if
71     an American was talking about DST in the UK they would also use the term
72     "BST", but no:
73     http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8498
74     %
75     To: Time zone mailing list <tz@iana.org>
76     Subject: Re: [tz] Request regarding IANA update for Novosibirsk Time Zone
77    
78     Shruthi Venkataramanan -X (shruthve - WIPRO LIMITED at Cisco) wrote:
79     > When can we expect the updated version
80    
81     About three weeks ago.
82     %
83 root 1.439 [...] trying to make digital files uncopyable is like trying to make water
84     not wet. -- Bruce Schneier
85     %
86     [...] in order to be a good Christian one must first be a great hypocrite.
87    
88     [http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.de/2013/06/the-bible-is-nothing-but-hearsay.html]
89     %
90 root 1.438 Know that you suck, you suck so much that you suck the future you wich
91     was able to go back in time to suck you from the past. You are an
92     neverending paradoxial loop of suckage. Now suck the fuck off.
93    
94     [http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/vats-vs-rtwp.23266/page-2]
95     %
96     From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
97    
98     Arthur David Olson <arthurdavidolson@gmail.com> writes:
99    
100     > From The Economist: "Why time may be running out for the leap second"
101     [http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/11/economist-explains-4]
102    
103     | The first is simple, ancient and intuitive, and based on the rotation of
104     | the Earth, under which each complete rotation (or, equivalently, each of
105     | the Sun's apparent trips through the sky) counts as one day.
106    
107     Of course, these are actually not equivalent; they're different by a
108     full day per year.
109     %
110 root 1.437 Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir
111     de la faire plus courte. -- Blaise Pascal, Provincial Letters : Letter XVI.
112     [I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time.]
113     %
114     File names are infinite in length where infinity is set to 255 characters.
115     -- Peter Collinson, "The Unix File System"
116     %
117     Over the past 20 years - its never been a question of the "perfect
118     storage media vendor" - its been a question of "who has screwed
119     me - lately?".
120     -- JSS, former Amiga HW Engineer, Rework tech of 400,000 defective
121     Seagate HDD's, Class of '94.
122    
123     [http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1095235&cid=26492885]
124     %
125     I also proposed making malloc(0) perfectly fine, since zero is a perfectly
126     fine value. I also, in the same letter, proposed making zero-sized
127     arrays legal, mostly so you could do the extend-the-struct trick for a
128     variable-sized array as the last field of the struct.
129    
130     I got two letters back as answer to my one. #1: Malloc(0) shouldn't work
131     because zero-sized arrays don't work. #2: Zero-sized arrays shouldn't work
132     because malloc(0) doesn't work. Well played, ANSI C committee, and may
133     your lives be a living hell.
134    
135     [Rob Pike in https://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=4142#c2]
136     %
137 root 1.436 Using a screwdriver was not a normal part of the experimental protocol.
138     [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Slotin#Criticality_accident]
139     %
140     Newbie: Hi. I've been using Lisp for about half a year now, programming
141     for three years. I discovered this group and wondered if you could help me
142     out with a problem I'm having?
143    
144     Smug: Hi! Always glad to have new blood. Sure thing, just ask.
145    
146     Snide: Heya New! You bet, ask anything and we'll try to help.
147    
148     Newbie: Okay, I'm trying to filter a list, something like Perl's grep. I
149     want to set up a predicate and have the new list be only those elements
150     from the old list that satisfy it. I know there's some standard idiom for
151     doing this, I just can't find it anywhere...
152    
153     Smug: Perl's grep was inspired by Lisp's higher-order functions, you know. :)
154    
155     Newbie: Oh, cool. :)
156    
157     Smug: But it's inferior since it has balky syntax.
158    
159     Snide: You can do it with (mapcan (lambda (item) (when (predicate item) (list item))) list).
160     [http://c2.com/]
161     %
162     Unfortunately a Russian spy stole the last meg of a LISP program for
163     controlling our nuclear defense systems. Fortunately, it was all
164     right-parenthesis.
165     [http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhyWeHateLisp]
166     %
167     Always wanted to travel back in time to try fighting a younger version of
168     yourself?
169     Software development is the career for you!
170    
171     [https://twitter.com/Loh/status/411282297816498176]
172     %
173 root 1.435 [...] undisguised clarity is easily mistaken for arrogance.
174     -- Richard Dawkins
175     %
176     There are many choices of elliptic-curve signature systems. The standard
177     choice, ECDSA, is reasonable if you don't care about simplicity, speed,
178     and security.
179    
180     [http://blog.cr.yp.to/20140323-ecdsa.html]
181     %
182     [In answer to: "Is the NSA aware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS? The RSA?"]
183    
184     We are unaware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS when properly implemented and
185     used for the purposes for which they both are designed.
186     -— National Security Agency, June 1992
187     %
188     In the past decade there have been many attacks against TLS. With the
189     exception of CRIME, not one of them relied on any results that were not
190     known at the time the TLS 1.0 standard was being written. [...] Every time
191     this standards group has had a choice to make regarding cryptography,
192     they have made the wrong one. [...] Were TLS to be submitted by an
193     undergraduate as a solution to this problem it would earn an F.
194    
195     [http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg10598.html]
196     %
197     tiny hsv2rgb
198     float3 h2r(float h,float s,float v){return lerp(saturate((abs(frac(h+float3(1,2,3)/3)*6-3)-1)),1,s)*v;}
199    
200     vec3 hsv(float h,float s,float v) {
201     return mix(vec3(1.),clamp((abs(fract(h+vec3(3.,2.,1.)/3.)*6.-3.)-1.),0.,1.),s)*v;
202     }
203     %
204     Haha, no FPS counter but rather a "Next frame"-button :)
205     Only Java makes it possible!
206    
207     [http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=7920&page=1]
208     %
209     'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and
210     generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is
211     extremely poettering''
212     %
213     "There is no use in arguing with a man who can multiply anything by the square root of minus 1."
214     -- Pirates of Venus, Edgar Rice Burroughs
215     %
216     "I drank what?!"
217     -- Socrates
218     %
219     It would be bad for OpenPGP to have a standard that could not be
220     implemented on light bulbs (I used to say cell phones, but they're now
221     400MHz devices), forcing the light bulb people to use something else.
222    
223     Jon Callas in
224     http://www.imc.org/ietf-openpgp/mail-archive/msg06396.html
225     %
226     "If you have four groups working on a compiler, you'll get a 4-pass compiler."
227     -- Conway's Law
228     %
229     The mac version doesn't work on older versions of the operating system
230     (this is part of Apple's planned obsolescence hellhole; the latest version
231     of xcode won't build for older systems but I'm forced to update to it
232     because the older ones won't build for newer systems and I've been forced
233     to update the operating system on my ipad so UGH; basically I have to
234     have multiple xcode versions installed and I really can't be bothered
235     untangling this mess right now so).
236    
237     [http://mightyvision.blogspot.de/2013/03/7drl-success-86856527.html]
238     %
239     Option "NoPM" "boolean"
240     Disables something to do with power management events. Default: PM
241     enabled on platforms that support it.
242     [xorg.conf(5)]
243     %
244     > Yes, this would be something _in addition_ to what the FSF does.
245     > Grant money could be used to hire one or two fresh graduates that
246     > would work on code.
247    
248     Graduates in which discipline? Computer science? This sounds to me
249     like the idea to hire one or two fresh graduates in English literature
250     and language with the idea to let them start writing novels.
251     [87liaj740v.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org]
252     %
253 root 1.434 [and that's why I don't support gentoo anymore]
254     As with Francois, I used to use ccache for recompiling packages that
255     hadn’t finished the first time — but for a different reason. At
256     the time, I had overrated memory, and a BIOS without a memory clock
257     option. The system was generally fine, but once in awhile would scramble
258     a memory transfer enough to cause a crash. CCache was a LOT of help in
259     that instance, as it’s what allowed me to even install Gentoo at all —
260     there’s no way I could have gotten thru gcc, (monolitic) X, glibc, or
261     the then unsplit KDE compiles, without it.
262     %
263     Kay, you are so full of sh*t that it's not funny. You're refusing to
264     acknowledge your bugs, you refuse to fix them even when a patch is
265     sent to you, and then you make excuses for the fact that we have to
266     work around *your* bugs, and say that we should have done so from the
267     very beginning.
268     [Linus in http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1369384]
269     %
270     systemd creates user session information in
271     /run/user/$user . I brought up with lennart the fact that this would
272     only permit one session per user. He rejected out of hand the fact
273     that more than one session would ever be needed, because Gnome only
274     allowed one session per user.
275     [http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/04/msg00751.html]
276     %
277 root 1.433 > Mailman archives! IIRC Heiko mentioned that there are more disputes
278     > about Lennart Poettering and his software on ALL mailing lists, than
279     > about anything else.
280     >
281     > Why is it like that?
282    
283     Probably because he has all the arrogance of DJB but none of the skill.
284    
285     [http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/44574]
286     %
287     [from a discussion about GNOME 3 "branding" mentality]
288    
289     >> However, there are a number of serious problems:
290     >>
291     >> 1. Extensions break with every release. As Paolo said earlier, "This is
292     >> simply the result of not (yet) having a defined extension API." Yet this is
293     >> also part of the design: extensions specify versions of gnome-shell they
294     >> work with, so are trivially broken by new versions even if they might work.
295     >
296     > I don't think you understand well why this was designed this way.
297    
298     That's the sort of thing people say to the judge of a serial killer.
299     The reasons don't matter for calling the results terrible.
300     %
301     (partial) Beaufort Table
302     Name # km/h (min) m/s (min)
303     Calm 0 0 0
304     Light Air 1 1.1 0.3
305     Light Breeze 2 5.6 1.6
306     Gentle Breeze 3 12 3.4
307     Moderate Breeze 4 20 5.5
308     Fresh Breeze 5 29 8
309     Strong Breeze 6 39 10.8
310     Moderate Gale 7 50 13.9
311     Fresh Gale 8 62 17.2
312     Strong Gale 9 75 20.8
313     %
314     "I have an open mind (I did consider voting liberal democrat once)."
315     - random imdb forum quote excerpt
316     %
317     "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure
318     sign of a diseased mind." [Terry Pratchett]
319     %
320     The butcher who kills the baby to see how it comes apart did choose his
321     profession because of his sensitive soul. He chose it because death and
322     suffering, blood and gore, appeal to him. Dismembering the baby was always
323     on the cards.
324     %
325     [random comment from amule sources]
326     // trust noone ;-)
327     // lol, useless comment but made me lmao
328     // wtf you guys are weird.
329     %
330 root 1.432 Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid.
331     - Kin Hubbard
332     %
333     [random .sig]
334     I'm a muslim.
335    
336     No I won't email you a bomb if you tick me off, but only because I don't know how to.
337     %
338     [...] don't do a double-take if you cuss in front of a woman. If she's read any
339     of the kernel code (notably arch/sparc/), she's heard of the word "fuck"
340     before.
341    
342     [Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO]
343     %
344     <imho>
345    
346     BASIC - fun! (For small programs at least.)
347     Smalltalk - fun! (Until you have to interact with anything else.)
348     Lisp - fun! (Until your eyeballs fall out from looking at too many parentheses.)
349     Arduino sketches - fun! (As long as they fit on one page.)
350    
351     ObjC - sort of fun...once you understand 200 Cocoa classes.
352     Java - public static void not fun.
353     C++ - definitely not fun. STL seems like it should be fun but it isn't.
354     C - usually not fun.
355    
356     What about modern scripting languages?
357    
358     JavaScript - sort of fun! Until you have to deal with the DOM or various not-fun frameworks.
359     Ruby - fun! Until you try to do something with Rails.
360     Python - fun! Until you try to write a GUI app.
361    
362     </imho>
363    
364     [http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/2/]
365     %
366     "Die deutschen Zensoren------------------- --------------------------
367     Dummköpfe-------- -------------------------------------------"
368     %
369    
370     * GFX_IS_DISPLAY_MODE_SUPPORTED
371     *
372     * This routine sets the specified display mode.
373    
374     n = n%2 ? n : ++n;
375     [plan9, /sys/src/cmd/eqn/paren.c]
376     %
377     # The user is always right.
378     if test "${PATH_SEPARATOR+set}" != set; then
379     [autoconf]
380     %
381     from linux-2.6.37/fs/fcntl.c:
382    
383     /*
384     * We need to detect attempts to do dup2() over allocated but still
385     * not finished descriptor. NB: OpenBSD avoids that at the price of
386     * extra work in their equivalent of fget() - they insert struct
387     * file immediately after grabbing descriptor, mark it larval if
388     * more work (e.g. actual opening) is needed and make sure that
389     * fget() treats larval files as absent. Potentially interesting,
390     * but while extra work in fget() is trivial, locking implications
391     * and amount of surgery on open()-related paths in VFS are not.
392     * FreeBSD fails with -EBADF in the same situation, NetBSD "solution"
393     * deadlocks in rather amusing ways, AFAICS. All of that is out of
394     * scope of POSIX or SUS, since neither considers shared descriptor
395     * tables and this condition does not arise without those.
396     */
397     %
398     Taken straight out of lilo... This way of intermixing case with if (0)
399     was new to me:
400    
401     switch(c)
402     {
403     case 'x': base=16; type |= 4; if(0) {
404     case 'o': base= 8; type |= 4; } if(0) {
405     case 'u': base=10; type |= 4; } if(0) {
406     case 'd': base=-10; }
407     switch(type)
408     {
409     case 0: val=va_arg(ap, short); break;
410     case 1: val=va_arg(ap, int); break;
411     case 2: val=va_arg(ap, long); break;
412     case 4: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned short); break;
413     case 5: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned int); break;
414     case 6: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned long); break;
415     default:val=0; break;
416     }
417     cp = __numout(val,base);
418     if(0) {
419     case 's':
420     cp=va_arg(ap, char *);
421     }
422     %
423     Also, it is not true that UTC-1 is THE civilian time scale. While it
424     is certainly one, physical seconds are as enshrined in law as UTC
425     timestamps. Try arguing that you weren't caught speeding at midnight
426     at the end of the year because the calculation should have used an
427     extra second and see how far you get :-)
428     [Nick Maclaren, in <8ta60d$aq6$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>]
429     %
430     > > Actually it's not fully backward compatible. As I was just reminded, the
431     > > libc `sync' function, which is what the fileutils sync uses (sync is in
432     > > fileutils, not sh-utils), is backward-compatible and thus not synchronous
433     > > (it passes a zero wait flag in file_syncfs).
434     >
435     > Hmm. Hurd sync should use the libc sync function too; it should not
436     > set the wait flag. If it does, that's a bug.
437    
438     It must be a confusing feature, because the code was written by the
439     infamous Michael I. Bushnell (may he rest in peace), who did not write bugs.
440    
441     [from a random discussion about hurd, 199901032206.RAA27962@baalperazim.frob.com]
442     %
443     It is immediately apparent from these figures that moving-arm disks
444     should never be used, neither for paging applications nor for any other
445     heavy-traffic auxiliary memory applications.
446    
447     Peter J. Denning -- Virtual Memory (1970)
448    
449     http://portal.acm.org/ft_gateway.cfm?id=356573&type=pdf&coll=portal&dl=ACM&CFID=15151515&CFTOKEN=6184618
450     %
451     (i was impatient to bikeshed with diego on code indenting... btw this
452     whole indentation rules/enforcement should gone, it's nonsense, i dont
453     know any coder who uses consistent indentation over all his code... only
454     beginner programmers do, sometimes. if anyone wants to read the code in
455     nice indentation, he can anytime run a code formatter with his favourite
456     settings)
457    
458     http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2011-January/104674.html
459     %
460     How do I deal with memory leaks?
461    
462     By writing code that doesn't have any. [...]
463    
464     [From Bjarne Stroustrup's C++ Style and Technique FAQ]
465     %
466     This kind of arguments doesn't really make sense for Fedora. We should
467     ship the best implementation, not the most "tried and true" one.
468    
469     http://www.devheads.net/linux/fedora/development/libjpeg-f14.htm
470     %
471     The situation in the US: If you do anything before 2067 to preserve the
472     recording on a wax-cylinder from 1895, the terrorists win. Do you really
473     hate hard-working American families that much? Thank God Senator Orrin
474     Hatch and the RIAA love America's children more than you do.
475    
476     The situation in Europe: Sound recordings up to 1960 are already in the
477     public domain. The terrorists have won. Our only hope of restoring the
478     justice of eternal and infinite copyright (and therefore saving our own
479     children's lives!) lies in the selfless efforts of the likes of Bono and
480     Cliff Richard, as they cry all the way to the bank about artists not being
481     rewarded for their creativity.
482    
483     Let's hope that by the time you finish reading this sentence, copyright
484     will have been extended another 99 years... you know, to justly compensate
485     that bloke sitting by a mic in 1895. If he'd thought that in 2066
486     librarians would be able to copy his recording without his permission, he
487     would never have made it in the first place.
488    
489     http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52573
490     %
491     "I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in
492     future understand things" -- Jörg Schilling
493     %
494     Nobody has bought freaking 160GB of music from the iTunes store. I figured
495     it out once, conservatively it was like $53,000 of music. And yet somehow
496     Apple has managed to sell tens of millions of iPods with up to 160GB
497     capacity, and even the smaller iPods would cost many thousands of dollars
498     to fill from the iTunes store. The iPod was worthwhile because of piracy.
499    
500     http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/09/intels-walled-garden-plan-to-put-av-vendors-out-of-business.ars?comments=1#comment-20806800
501     %
502     "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
503     Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
504     - Mohandas Gandhi
505     %
506     "And so I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
507     the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the
508     handiwork of the Lord."
509     - Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" Vol. I, chapter 2, Murphy Ed. (p. 46)
510     %
511     Scientific Scrutiny and Disclosure
512    
513     I was wondering how anyone possibly could conclude from this exchange that
514     Lenski was hiding something. I came to the conclusion that some people
515     must not understand how scientific scrutiny works. I wrote a guide.
516    
517     Scientific scrutiny works like this:
518     Scientist A publishes results.
519    
520     Scientist B: A, I tried duplicating your experiment, but parameters x, y,
521     and z that I need were not in your article. I need you to disclose to me
522     x, y, and z that you used at the time. What are they?
523    
524     A: x, y, and z are such and such.
525     B: Using x, y, and z, my result doesn't agree with yours at all. Are you
526     sure you did the procedures that you claimed?
527     A: ...
528     B: You fraud!
529    
530     Scientific scrutiny does not work like this:
531    
532     A publishes results.
533    
534     B: I have Generic Skepticism toward your article. Under code viii of the
535     Publication Criteria, I demand that you give me all of your data!
536     A: ... ok...? It seems that everything you would need is already in the
537     article. Did you have something specific in mind?
538     B: A has refused to attach all data he has ever used for the
539     experiment. He is withholding information and thus hiding something.
540    
541     -- Carafe 01:42, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
542     [http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservapedia:Lenski_affair_talk_1]
543     %
544     [regarding sites requesting visitors to allow advertisements and not block
545     them because they need the money to operate]
546    
547     "The readers are not the customer. The customer is the advertiser, and the
548     readers are the product which that website promises to deliver. But the
549     readers, being the product and not the customer, have no obligation to the
550     site or its bottom line."
551     %
552     "..but a short time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of
553     the Jewish religion before his principles were departed from by those
554     who professed to be his special servants, & perverted into an engine for
555     enslaving mankind, and aggrandizing their oppressors in church & state:
556     that the purest system of morals ever before preached to man has been
557     adulterated & sophisticated, by artificial constructions, into a mere
558     contrivance to filch wealth & power to themselves, that rational men not
559     being able to swallow their impious heresies, in order to force them down
560     their throats, they raise the hue & cry of infidelity, while themselves
561     are the greatest obstacles to the advancement of the real doctrines of
562     Jesus, and do in fact constitute the real Anti-Christ."
563     – Thomas Jefferson to William Baldwin, 19 January 1810 (draft – never sent)
564     %
565     Ignorance is the state of not having the data.
566    
567     Idiocy is the state of having the data, but not being able to process it.
568    
569     Willful ignorance is the state of censoring out all data you don’t want to hear.
570     %
571     ["only those parts in the bible I like are authentic"]
572    
573     >>>> but doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support slavery, genocide,
574     >>>> and the beating of children?
575     >>>
576     >>> Subjugation of women...
577     >>
578     >> "doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support ..." Only for bible
579     >> literalists and those who ignore what Jesus himself taught. By all
580     >> means call out any religious person who is acting immorally but try to
581     >> understand that the rest of us who are trying to follow the Way as best
582     >> as we can don't usually have the clout to wrestle the Falwells and the
583     >> Robertsons and their ilk to the ground. If we can agree on that, then,
584     >> shake partner.
585     >
586     > Ever read Matthew 5:31-32? Jesus said it and taught it.
587     >
588     > He says my wife is an adultress since she divorced her 1st husband all
589     > on account of her not taking his punches and kicks with good-natured
590     > humor. That "pearl of wisdom" also says that I'm an adulterer for
591     > choosing to spend the rest of my life with her.
592     >
593    
594     As written, it seems pretty clear. Until you remember the book of matthew
595     was written decades after Jesus's death based on memories and oral
596     traditions, not to mention translation inaccuracies and ulterior motives
597     of the writers. No one really knows what Jesus really said or what he
598     really meant. It could all be wildly inacurrate. I think the fault is in
599     those who would use those words to justify their shabby treatment of you
600     and your wife.
601     %
602     Atheists care about religion for the same reason other people care about
603     cancer. If you aren't careful, it will kill you, and if you are, it could
604     still kill you. - arestheblue
605     %
606     Once upon a time there was the CAT working group whose name was an
607     abbreviation for "Common Authentication Technology". It produced IETF
608     specifications for GSS-API.
609    
610     It was succeeded by the kitten working group, which has been working on
611     the next-generation GSS-API specifications.
612    
613     There is now a proposal for a MOGGIES working group, which will work on
614     Mechanisms Of Generating Generically Interoperable & Effective Security.
615    
616     [http://fanf.livejournal.com/?style=mine]
617     %
618     [from the minix 3 users guide]
619    
620     ELLE is a simple and clear text editor (once you've figured out the key commands).
621     %
622     [Tips how to deal with complaints when running TOR exit nodes]
623    
624     During the conversation make sure you explain a few points:
625     [...]
626     You are not insane. You may be insane, but we don't want the
627     complaintant to guess this is true.
628     %
629     "One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code."
630     - Ken Thompson.
631     %
632     http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-01-16-50-Math-Project-released.html
633    
634     "Scientific calculations are becoming a reality in Syllable"
635    
636     Dunning-Kruger at its best - the tool that "carries Syllable to
637     universities" can calculate sine and cosine values of integer inputs...
638     source code excerpt:
639    
640     int sn()
641     {
642     char pwr;
643    
644     int input1 = 0;
645     double output1 = 0;
646    
647     system("clear");
648     cout<<"This is the Sin() calculator, please enter a number"<<endl;
649     cin>>input1;
650     output1 = (sin(input1));
651     cout<<"Sin() of"<< input1<<" is: "<<output1<<endl;
652     cout<<"Please press 'a' for recalculate or 'm' to return to main menu"<<endl;
653     cin>>pwr;
654     if(pwr == 'a')
655     sq();
656     if(pwr == 'm')
657     system("pause");
658    
659     }
660     %
661     It allows a web browser and a web server to have a persistent, two-way
662     full-duplex connection using just one TCP connection.
663    
664     [mind-boggling, they provide TCP features with just TCP!!!11]
665    
666     http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-02-22-16-WebSockets-for-Cheyenne-web-server.html
667     %
668     From the "my window manager is boiling bullshit, so you have to fix your
669     app for me" department:
670    
671     From: Evan LeCompte
672    
673     Myself and many other members of the Archlinux community (and anyone using
674     Linux with a tiling window manager for that matter) humbly beg you (the
675     developers) for a single-windowed version of GIMP.
676     %
677     "I will give you credit for having balls. In spite of your comments being
678     a PR ploy based on biased views, you consistently imply that we're just
679     indulging in a PR ploy based on biased views."
680    
681     http://tamino.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/old-news/
682     %
683     "We do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone ...
684     Folks who want porn can buy an Android phone"
685     – Steve Jobs[47]
686    
687     "We can’t adapt European magazines to the standards of Utah."
688     – Mathias Müller von Blumencron (editor of Der Spiegel, warning that
689     the news magazine would not alter its content for the App Store)
690     %
691     The naked truth of it is, I have no shirt.
692     -- William Shakespeare, "Love's Labour's Lost"
693     %
694     Subject: [Gimp-user] Completely off every imaginable topic;)
695     From: Patrick Horgan
696     Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:13:38 -0800
697     To: GIMP Users <gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU>
698    
699     Have you ever noticed that people's progress in using, supporting,
700     writing bug reports for, and sometimes even developing for, writing
701     documentation for, or translating for open source software is paralleled
702     by their progress from top-posting to bottom posting to interlinear
703     posting, to intelligent elision with interlinear posting? I see it on
704     the gimp, and on other lists all the time.
705    
706     [...]
707     %
708 root 1.431 "Logic has made me hated among men"
709     — Peter Abelard
710     %
711     A man said to the universe:
712     "Sir I exist!"
713     "However," replied the universe,
714     "The fact has not created in me
715 root 1.432 A sense of obligation."
716     - Steven Crane
717 root 1.431 %
718     He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool; avoid him.
719    
720     He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a student; teach him.
721    
722     He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep; wake him.
723    
724     He who knows and knows that he knows is a wise man; follow him.
725    
726     – Sanskrit Saying
727     %
728     [anonymised discussion]
729     AGW-Denialist: ... blabla ... Karl Hopper ... blabla ... falsification ...
730     Scientist: Karl Hopper, eh? You're like the energizer bunny of wrong.
731     %
732     [http://www.opengl.org/registry/specs/NV/render_texture_rectangle.txt]
733    
734 root 1.432 Additions to the WGL Specification
735 root 1.431
736     First, close your eyes and pretend that a WGL specification actually
737     existed. Maybe if we all concentrate hard enough, one will magically
738     appear.
739     %
740     "All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust,
741     sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others."
742     - Douglas Adams
743     %
744     I like how whether a German is a "skinhead" or a "pussy", he's still considered a typical German.
745     [http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=21884]
746     %
747     “A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will
748     lose both, and deserve neither” -- Thomas Jefferson
749     %
750     "This is a further proof of the skill of astronomers
751     in fitting a straight line to a circle!"
752     - footnote in "OUR BEST FRIEND, THE COMA CLUSTER"
753     http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Biviano/Biviano_contents.html
754     %
755     Am Grunde eines Problems sitzt immer ein Deutscher (Voltaire)
756     %
757     "I'm Prime Minister of Canada, I live here and I'm going to take a leak."
758     - Lester Pearson in 1967, during a meeting between himself and
759     President Lyndon Johnson, whose Secret Service detail had taken over
760     Pearson's cottage retreat. At one point, a Johnson guard asked
761     Pearson, "Who are you and where are you going?"
762     %
763     It's a known fact that not a single competent, experienced, skilled
764     programmer in the world uses an IDE, nor has used one at any point in his
765     or her career.
766     [http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl/?node_id=636318]
767     %
768     It was stated that WIMPs and MACHOs were in the category of particle known
769     as "Fabricated Ad hoc Inventions Repeatedly Invoked in Efforts to Defend
770     Untenable Scientific Theories" (FAIRIE DUST).
771     %
772     I LOVE YOU
773     ["authentication succeeded" protocol token used by cvs pserver]
774     %
775     General consensus seems to be 2.6.18 is where the manure intersected with
776     the air impeller.
777    
778     Alan Cox
779     %
780     "I'm being elitist: awesome 3 is designed for power users
781     with a minimum computer science background."
782     %
783     From: Eric Sosman
784     Newsgroups: comp.std.c
785     Subject: Re: about graphics
786    
787     prince wrote:
788     > how to get command over graphics in c language?
789    
790     #include <stdio.h>
791     int main(void) {
792     puts("graphics\rcommand");
793     return 0;
794     }
795     %
796     I tried the Vista speech recognition by running the tutorial. I was
797     amazed, it was awesome, recognised every word I said. Then I said the
798     wrong word ... and it typed the right one. It was actually just
799     detecting a sound and printing the expected word! -- pbhj on /.
800     %
801     [Bodo Moeller in http://groups.google.com/group/sci.crypt/msg/e79e65ed9077d0ba]
802    
803     While the 2^128 step search talks a very long time indeed,
804     it still is a constant-time attack.
805     %
806     "Verleumdung mußt Du frech betreiben, es wird schon etwas hängenbleiben!"
807     -- Karl Joseph Simrock
808     %
809     From: David Damerell
810    
811     Quoting Epic Campaigns <NoS...@NoSpamMe.com>:
812     >Because C# is case sensitive, you can use the same name with different
813     >caps to make it different.
814    
815     Alternatively you could set your nose hair on fire, which will also be
816     painful but will take less typing.
817     %
818     Well, I think comparing Common Lisp to Scheme is prima facie evidence
819     of ill will, even if Common Lisp wins. It is somewhat like a supposed
820     compliment like "man, you are even smarter than George W. Bush".
821    
822     Erik Naggum in 3231422371368070@naggum.net
823     %
824     From: Hans-Jürgen Koch
825    
826     > The GPL places additional restrictions on code. It is therefore less
827     > free than the BSD.
828     >
829     > Free code + restrictions = non-free code.
830    
831     The legal restriction that people must not enter your house uninvited
832     by smashing the door adds to your freedom, don't you think so?
833     %
834     [C++ doesn't have the monopoly on hard-to-read diagnostics]
835    
836     State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘(void (*)(struct CoroSLF *, struct CV *,
837     struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
838     from incompatible pointer type
839     State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 3 of ‘(void (*)(struct CoroSLF *, struct CV *,
840     struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
841     makes pointer from integer without a cast
842     State.xs:1927: error: too few arguments to function ‘(void (*)(struct CoroSLF *,
843     struct CV *, struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
844     %
845     The idea that governments have rights is absurd. People have rights. The
846     people have delegated certain tasks to government for their own
847     convenience, and have accepted limits on some minimal subset of their
848     rights so that society can best protect the rest. Note that "society" is
849     not the same as "the government"; the government is just a mechanism used
850     by society to accomplish certain specific things.
851    
852     [Chandon Seldon]
853     %
854     [Wikipedia]
855     Differences between vi and Emacs
856    
857     The neutrality of this article is disputed.
858     %
859     [lost the reference]
860     Remember that openssl is generally the upper
861     bound on how difficult a library can be to use.
862     %
863     "Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it's pointless
864     to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and
865     elitist. No novices asking stupid questions."
866     %
867     [aol 4tw, messages are edited for readability]
868    
869     Subject: Re: fcrack help
870     From: puezalb024@aol.com
871     Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:27:46 -0500
872     To: schmorp@schmorp.de
873     X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
874    
875     well how about making the manual more accessable u fukin cumtwat. take
876     ur shitty software n shove it homo. this program sux anyway. i wouldnt
877     have to read a manual if you actually knew how to create a good piece of a
878     working program you stupid fuck. n let me tell you thats a good way to get
879     your name out there or your software, just tel the customer their wrong,
880     yeah, thatll work. may you rot in piss, if your head was on fire i would
881     piss on your leg.
882    
883     ?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
884     maybe you should go to school and learn how to spell cuz who the fuck
885     spells marK with a c? musta been a baby of a couple retards
886    
887     [then, a day later]
888    
889     Subject: Re: fcrack help
890     From: puezalb024@aol.com
891     Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:02:20 -0500
892     To: schmorp@schmorp.de
893     X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
894    
895     just kno that your an idiot. dont be mad at me cuz your mommy n daddy cant
896     aford to buy you aol, its not my problem. like anyone is going to read
897     your stupid post anyway.. noone likes your program, how about you read the
898     previous posts n then we'll see. so you just keep sitting in your basement
899     all by your lonesome?wasting your time making useless software buddy, cuz
900     quiet frankly i could give 2 shits. oh yeah if you plan on posting my
901     response make sure you dont edit nothing and include ALL of my response u
902     fucking nerd. why dont you put it on ur myspace as well, print up a couple
903     copies n post em on your walls too buddy
904    
905    
906     -----Original Message-----
907     From: Marc Lehmann <schmorp@schmorp.de>
908     To: puezalb024@aol.com
909     Sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 2:17 am
910     Subject: Re: fcrack help
911    
912    
913    
914     On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 07:27:46PM -0500, puezalb024@aol.com wrote:
915 root 1.432 >
916 root 1.431 > ?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
917    
918     I was suspecting that aol users have, uhm, issues, but that's just hilarious :->
919    
920     Note that I will publish your response so other people can share the fun,
921     I hope you don't object :)
922     %
923     >Dummerweise steht es auch in der Welt der Wunder Zeitschrift und die ist
924     >dafür bekannt Fakten zu liefern.
925    
926     You made my day
927     %
928     [http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0810.1/2945.html]
929    
930     Names are important. In fact, naming is often _more_ important than the
931     implementation is. And that means that the implementation should follow
932     the naming, or the implementation is wrong.
933    
934     Linus
935     %
936     The ultimate hipocrisy is when people send you mails like this:
937    
938     From: Christian Walde <mithaldu@yahoo.de>
939    
940     I'll be utterly blunt now and ask this in advance: Are you being an asshole on purpose? If so, please just stop reading now and ignore a person trying t ...
941    
942     [lots of kilobyte-sized single-line paragraphs omitted]
943    
944     As too many people send me top- and fully-quoted
945     emails, here is a guide on how to be considerate
946     when sending emails to other people:
947     http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
948    
949     [which states to not use more than, say, 72 columns per line]
950    
951     [mail quoted with permission btw.]
952     %
953     * k-god tries to think of the one mutt enhancement he'd like...
954     <k-god> OK. Two. One: A backscratcher.
955     <brendan> I believe muttng has one of those
956     <k-god> Two: An implementation of the Internet Face Stab Protocol for MS Outlook lusers.
957     <brendan> and I think outlook does that on its own :)
958     %
959     I had some issues though, functions like tmpfile() could only
960     be used if run as administrator in windows.
961    
962     Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <n.mavrogiannopoulos@gmail.com>
963     %
964     [on italy]
965    
966     #24. fallingstones - 08-10 03:51
967    
968     @youruncledarnell: First, sorry for my very bad English. Yes, the
969     majority of Italians are totally idiot, otherwise the Prime Minister
970     wouldn't be Silvio Berlusconi, and of course also the justice is not
971     only politicized, but also spectacularized.
972    
973     Not only. We've the only nation in all EU having a State-controlled
974     corporation on copyright (SIAE). This corporation have also hated
975     by a lot of artists, Italian and foreigner, 'cause the division of
976     funds is "strange". If some of you can understand a lot of Italian, I
977     suggest viewing an old service on Italian TV program "Report" talking
978     on SIAE. You can read and viewing it on this url (sorry for long url)
979    
980     http://www.report.rai.it/R2_popup_articolofoglia/0,7246,243%255E90082,00.html
981    
982     Our legislation on copyright is basically on a law of 1943, approved
983     during WWII by fascism and signed by the king. We're a Republic since
984     1948 and our Costitution dislike fascism, but we've conserved all laws
985     from fascism period.
986    
987     We don't admit officially other copyright licenses, like GPL or CC,
988     cause "legally" every creation would be registered in SIAE, giving to
989     them all rights (also rights of persecuting uses not authorized). An
990     author of a song can't authorize itself a pianist for playing his
991     song. If the song is registered in SIAE (and if isn't, isn't legally
992     created, and the author isn't recognized) the pianist MUST pay the
993     royalties, that eventually will be refunded to him by the author (if
994     they are accorded) when, after a lot of MONTHS, he receive it from
995     SIAE.
996    
997     We've also some laws against Freedom of Speech, for example our penal
998     code include apology law, that pratically means you can't say why
999     you consider wrong a penal law. People can ask (with a lot of signs)
1000     elections for deleting a law, but not for a penal law, or better can't
1001     explain why that law it's wrong and would be deleted. If you can't
1002     explain, you'll obviously will not found never other people signing
1003     your petition (and you need at least 500, and with a REAL signs, not
1004     electronic ones
1005    
1006     #25. fallingstones - 08-10 03:52
1007    
1008     Then, only parties have sufficient funds for these things, and we
1009     don't have a party sufficiently interested in freedom of speech
1010     (on internet and not). 'Cause limiting Freedom of Speech included
1011     CONTROL. We've the last western country in Freedom of Speech (at least
1012     based on Freedomhouse annual statistic), the only "Partly Free" in
1013     western country.
1014    
1015     I'm so sorry for being Italian, for our very stupid justice, for our
1016     very bad country laws and on all for our very stupid prime minister,
1017     but trust me, I can assure you we don't be ALL so stupid. In last
1018     elections, with an absurd law on elections, other parties have been
1019     deleted from parliament. Now we've only two main coalitions, the
1020     Berlusconi's one and the Veltroni's one. All of them have approved
1021     laws against freedom on internet, and generally against technology
1022     innovations. For these reason, all the last governments are fascists,
1023     also the governments of "center-left".
1024    
1025     Again, sorry you and all for my bad English. I hope you can understand.
1026    
1027     If I can, I suggest Brokep creating a guide for using TOR, a little
1028     great program (and it's free) for surfing the net anonymously and
1029     without any restriction.
1030    
1031     Brokep and all TPB staff, go forward forever. You're my personal myth,
1032     and the hope that good people using brain like you exists into the
1033     world.
1034    
1035     Long life to the Bay, forever.
1036     Sorry for the long message and sorry if I'm using TOR, I hope you understand.
1037     Thank you for reading.
1038     %
1039     > > don't even attempt to compare the nvidia driver support to ati's craptacular drivers.
1040     >
1041     > don't even attempt to post a useful comment
1042    
1043     How very ironic.
1044     %
1045     With or without religion, we would have good people doing good things and
1046     evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that
1047     takes religion."
1048    
1049     --Steve Weinberg
1050     %
1051     http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/en/why-not-use_java.xhtml
1052     %
1053     [Kurt Roecks on his change that had totally broken openssl for two years in debian]
1054     [Folks, fix valgrind bugs in your code, not in other people's code,]
1055     [if you don't understand how valgrind works]
1056    
1057     "I've ran all the regression test thru valgrind, using the memset()
1058     solves most of those. As far as I know, commenting out those 2 calls
1059     solved all the warnings valgrind reported."
1060     %
1061     [From: "H.Merijn Brand"]
1062     The more I (have to) work with java, the more I am convinced perl is
1063     the right tool for me.
1064     %
1065     [deliantra]
1066     02:58:42 [Kyle] my summoned pets ate my rod of show invisible
1067     %
1068     I pretend to work because the Soviet government pretends to pay me.
1069     %
1070     cerebro ~# fuser -km /wd_old
1071     /wd_old: 5270c 12266c 12274c 12275
1072     Suddenly the Dungeon collapses!! - You die...
1073     %
1074     From the CFA633 datasheet:
1075    
1076     * Do not eat the LCD panel.
1077     %
1078     >> Well, in German there is no "sports" but just "Sport".
1079     >> So by that little S at the end of sports, you could tell it's English.
1080    
1081     It's the same in English as it is in German; the little S at the end
1082     actually tells you it's *American*.
1083     %
1084     [better do not hire this programmer]
1085     From: Tony Jackson <tj76351@gmail.com>
1086     Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
1087     Subject: Avoiding dereference of NULL pointer
1088    
1089     Hi
1090    
1091     I'm quite new to C programming - I have more of a Java background: maybe
1092     someone here can advise me.
1093    
1094     I'm nearly finishing a little program but it has some hard-to-find bugs
1095     that basically lead to a couple pointers sometimes being NULL at the
1096     wrong time. As it stands the program just bombs out when it tries to
1097     dereference the NULL, which obviously isn't good (especially when it
1098     happens with the customer looking on!!).
1099    
1100     I don't think there's any serious problem to worry about, and what I'd
1101     like to do is be able to ignore the dereference attempt and just carry
1102     on - probably the next time round the loop the pointer will be OK. In
1103     Java, I'd put a try block around the main loop, and if we catch an
1104     exception then just jump back to the start of the main loop. What's the
1105     corresponding thing in C?
1106    
1107     Thanks!
1108     %
1109     [from mozilla 1.7b sources]
1110    
1111     // See bug 53763.
1112     nsCOMPtr<nsIViewManager> kungFuDeathGrip;
1113     nsIPresShell *shell = doc->GetShellAt(0);
1114     if (shell) {
1115     kungFuDeathGrip = shell->GetViewManager();
1116     %
1117     [the beginning, and most common codepath, of getpid() on my linux 2.6
1118     amd64 box in a program using glibc 2.3's pthreads. thats fucking cool]
1119    
1120     0x000000300049af30 <getpid+0>: mov %fs:0x94,%edx
1121     0x000000300049af38 <getpid+8>: cmp $0x0,%edx
1122     0x000000300049af3b <getpid+11>: mov %edx,%eax
1123     0x000000300049af3d <getpid+13>: jle 0x300049af41 <getpid+17>
1124     0x000000300049af3f <getpid+15>: repz retq
1125     %
1126     (A lot of this OPM stuff seems to come straight from the twilight
1127     zone. It's normal to have error codes indicating that there was a disk
1128     error or that a network packet got garbled, but I'm sure Windows Vista
1129     must be the first OS in history to have error codes for things like
1130     “display quality too high”).
1131    
1132     [http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html]
1133     %
1134     Subject: Re: The right answer of -1^2 is?
1135    
1136 root 1.432 > I don't think there's a real Right Way here other than reintroducing a
1137 root 1.431 > mechanism for explicitly signaling the grouping. Maybe parentheses? ;)
1138    
1139     Nah. Use whitespace, like Fortress. Then you can distinguish between
1140    
1141     x / y * z
1142    
1143     and
1144    
1145     x / y * z
1146    
1147     That'll *never* cause problems, right? :)
1148    
1149     (To be fair, I like Fortress. However, it did have some, er, unique
1150     design decisions.)
1151     %
1152     endergt:
1153     > snoofle:
1154     > > Every system (*nix, PC's, etc.) has a hex
1155     > > editor with a string-search capability - really not that hard if
1156     > > you understand what you are doing...
1157     >
1158 root 1.432 > Out of curiosity - what is the hex editor on a default Windows installation?
1159 root 1.431
1160 root 1.432 debug
1161 root 1.431 %
1162     C# is for people who want to have one arm strapped behind their back because it reduces the probability of making a mistake by 50%.
1163    
1164     Java is for people who prefer to have the arm chopped off.
1165     %
1166     Steve Loughran: "The EU interop laws often come up in discussion, and they
1167     are interesting. They say that you are allowed to do reverse engineering
1168     for hardware interop. Not software: hardware."
1169    
1170     Not sure what you're talking about, but Council Directive 91/250/EEC seems
1171     pretty clear to me (or as clear as legal texts can be to me...): "Article
1172     6 Decompilation
1173    
1174     1. The authorization of the rightholder shall not be required where
1175     reproduction of the code and translation of its form within the meaning
1176     of Article 4 (a) and (b) are indispensable to obtain the information
1177     necessary to achieve the interoperability of an independently created
1178     computer program with other programs, provided that the following
1179     conditions are met: [...]"
1180     %
1181     http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/
1182     %
1183     Why Linux Sux ?
1184    
1185     Easy .
1186     Security : most hackable operating systems are unix based .
1187     Portability : try installing unix on cutting edge hardware . bad luck it won`t work . install windows (the oldest) on any ... it will .
1188     Help : try get help for linux . after exploring tons of sites and forums the help you got is useless . for windows you just call them .
1189     Applications : we all know there are more and more on windows . linux will probably never get so many .
1190     GUI : we know how customisable is the windows gui . and how stable .
1191     Gaming : ...anyone got an ideea of a linux game that is really cool ?
1192     Cost : install linux as server ... it is free no ? but you have to pay a sysadmin . or learn a lot . buy a lot of books . using windows ... just click next . if you are not dumb you might make it secure too (reading help does HELP! ) .
1193     Virus : due to the fact that windows is so flexible it is logcal to have viruses . afterall the human body has more than a monkeys one .
1194     Stability : reboot windows 100 times by using the case button . perhaps a scandisk will appear . reboot linux ... ups kernel panic .
1195    
1196     You don`t have money for OS ? Work ! Oh you hate miscrosoft and bill gates
1197     no ? Sure thing ... stupid and lazy people generally hate smart and hard
1198     working ones . Screw linux users .
1199     %
1200     19:26:03 <schmorp> did you know the us is officially metric? for over 100 years, too?
1201     19:26:27 -cfbot:#cf- [moerderer] it is also officially a democracy, go figure
1202     19:26:34 <schmorp> good point :)
1203     %
1204     > The Dell 30"...
1205    
1206     It is big, but some of the reviews have not been so glowing, or rather,
1207     the glowing has been highly asymmetric.
1208     %
1209 root 1.432 Re: USA- an underdeveloped country with potentials
1210 root 1.431
1211     > > u don´t use your wealth with responsibility, you only think about yourself and shrug your shoulders with comments like, "we all have the same chance", I´m a selfmade man", "everyone has to take care of themselves".
1212 root 1.432 >
1213 root 1.431 > yeah, that's why your little brothers decided to save the world - including your grandparents' sorry asses - from hitler, because we think only of ourselves!
1214 root 1.432 >
1215 root 1.431 > your welcome, pinhead!
1216 root 1.432
1217 root 1.431 Even though I´m tired of hearing "we saved your a *beep* during ww2 I will respond.
1218    
1219     1. Did you? Or did your great grandfathers? Maybe they were better?
1220     2. You came into the war very late, and that was strictly for buisness reasons. You need countries to trade with. The true hero in WW2 was actually Russia doing alot more then US ever did, not saying that I support Russia today.
1221     3. One good thing in the past doesn´t make up for bad things in your society today.
1222 root 1.432 4. With those retorics you will never learn anything from your own mistakes since you always can go back and talk about your effort 100 years ago.
1223 root 1.431 %
1224     [discussion about some changes in windows longhorn]
1225     Let's hope that some day Microsoft will catch up to what the
1226     public-domain tz code was doing back in 1986. (Good work, Arthur!)
1227     %
1228     ntfs ist dennoch für datei und ordnersicherheit zuständig.
1229    
1230     Zum Beispiel unter Linux wenn man auf fat32 festplatten zugreifen will ist
1231     es kein problem, wenn man aber die festplatte auf ntfs convertiert hat,
1232     dann funktioniert dass nicht mehr der zugriff auf die festplatte.
1233    
1234     Denn das ist die sicherheit vor zugriffen auf daten von anderen usern und
1235     anderen betriebssystemen.
1236    
1237     Habe fat32 festplatte gehabt(zugriff von linux möglich) dann habe ich es
1238     auf ntfs umconvertiert und dann ging es nicht mehr.
1239    
1240     habe nochmal in meinen unterlagen nachgeschlagen, haben erst ca. vor 3
1241     Wochen die Unterlagen vom Lehrer bekommen und ich sag nochmal, zittiere
1242     Lehrer: Fat32 sollte man heutzutage nicht mehr verwenden außer man hat
1243     Windows 98 und man möchte Dualbootkonfiguration erzielen. NTFS ist
1244     einfach für bessere Sicherheit zuständig.
1245    
1246     Frage?
1247     Hast du Windows und Linux beides auf deinem Laptop oder Standpc?
1248     Wenn ja hattest du vorher eine fat32 festplatte?
1249     Hast du sie dann auf ntfs umconvertiert?
1250    
1251     Freundlichen Grüße von Vista-Ultimate-Besitzer
1252     %
1253     "In this time of war against Osama bin Laden and the oppressive
1254     Taliban regime, we are thankful that OUR leader isn't the spoiled son
1255     of a powerful politician from a wealthy oil family who is supported by
1256     religious fundamentalists, operates through clandestine organizations,
1257     has no respect for the democratic electoral process, bombs innocents,
1258     and uses war to deny people their civil liberties." --The Boondocks
1259     %
1260     19:35:41 <elmex> dieses 'restore session' is soo sinnlos bei firefox
1261     19:35:54 <elmex> wenn die webseite die ihn gecrasht hat immer weieder crasht
1262     19:36:18 <schmorp> tja, bei mir restored er trotz einstellung nie etwas
1263     19:36:24 <schmorp> fragt sich wer mehr glück hat
1264     %
1265     What has happened is that Dave Winer got off a rant against JSON as
1266     reinventing XML's (and more specifically XML-RPC's) wheel:
1267    
1268     God bless the re-inventers
1269    
1270     Gotta love em, because there's no way they're going to stop breaking
1271     what works, and fixing what don't need no fixing
1272    
1273 root 1.432 Crockford gets off a very pithy response:
1274 root 1.431
1275     The good thing about reinventing the wheel is that you can get a round
1276     one.
1277     %
1278     [rfc2665]
1279     The dot3StatsEtherChipSet object has now been deprecated.
1280     Implementation feedback indicates that this object is much more
1281     useful in theory than in practice.
1282     %
1283     15:40:51 <elmex> son buero is faszinierend
1284 root 1.432 15:41:08 <elmex> staendig hoerste leute seuftzen und jammern, und in 90% der faelle hats
1285 root 1.431 mit windows zu tun
1286     15:41:15 <elmex> oder mit software die dort laeuft
1287     15:41:37 <elmex> irgendwem is heut mrogen die mail inbox verloren gegangen
1288     15:41:47 <elmex> und hat sie dann wiedergefunden
1289     15:41:49 <elmex> irgendwie
1290     15:41:50 <elmex> irgendwo
1291 root 1.432 15:42:07 <elmex> achja, und backups gabs auch keine mehr, seit sich die passwoerter
1292 root 1.431 geaendert haben :->
1293     15:42:19 <elmex> (also seit wenigen tagen)
1294 root 1.432 15:47:10 <elmex> es ist auch erstaunlich wie wenig arbeit eigentlich so erledigt wird nach
1295 root 1.431 15:30
1296     15:47:48 <elmex> (mit ausnahmen)
1297     15:48:13 <elmex> aber 50-80% der zeit wird mit kommunikation verbracht
1298     %
1299     [http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=895394]
1300     The SparcStation2 technical docs recommend catting your /vmunix file to /dev/audio as a speaker test.
1301     If you go nearly deaf from the painful noise, then your speaker works.
1302     %
1303     http://www.azillionmonkeys.com/qed/optimize.html
1304    
1305     Strictly for beginners
1306    
1307     Techniques you might not be aware of if you have not been programming for the past 15 years of your life:
1308     [...]
1309     %
1310     http://tmbo.org/offensive/images/picpile/Welcome%20to%20paradise%21.jpg
1311     %
1312     17:34:47 <elmex> hab gehoert solaris soll GPL werden, oder zumindest denkt sun drueber nach :->:
1313     17:34:53 <schmorp> ja klar
1314     17:34:57 <schmorp> alles was lebenszeitende hat
1315     17:34:58 <schmorp> wird gpl
1316     17:35:02 <schmorp> weil sie denken, dann wirds übelreben
1317     17:35:05 <schmorp> bei mozilla hats auch gwekappt
1318     17:35:08 <elmex> hehe
1319     17:35:13 <schmorp> und die brrowserentwicklung unter linux locker ein jahr verzögert
1320     17:35:46 <elmex> dann kann joerd schilling ja endlich sein lieblings system entwickeln :-
1321     17:35:48 <elmex> :->
1322     17:35:58 <schmorp> macht er doch schon die ganze zeit
1323     17:36:02 <schmorp> chillingos, bzw.
1324     17:36:18 <elmex> uh
1325     17:36:53 <schmorp> ich finds nicht mehr
1326     17:36:57 <schmorp> er arbeitet jedenfalls dran
1327     17:38:27 <schmorp> SchilliX
1328     17:38:29 <schmorp> genau!
1329     17:38:30 <schmorp> :)
1330     17:38:33 <elmex> sueees
1331     17:38:34 <schmorp> http://developer.berlios.de/projects/schillix/
1332     17:39:59 <zaphod> omg das ist nicht wahr
1333     17:40:20 <schmorp> ihr kennt die geheimnisse und wunder unserer welt nicht
1334     17:40:32 <zaphod> das kann bestimmt CDs brennen wie nix anderes
1335     17:40:42 <elmex> lol
1336     17:41:06 <schmorp> :)
1337     %
1338     [A Gentoo User]
1339     First FreeBSD is UNIX. Yes FreeBSD runs beter then all other Linux
1340     distro’s but FreeBSD lacks any graphical features(stolen linux features
1341     doesn’t count) so it is only ment for guys with an old grey beards.
1342     [...] That’s why for geeks/nerds/professionals (like me) bsd exists [...]
1343     Gentoo is ment for professionals that need a system for a really exact
1344     environment and think LFS is to much work.
1345     [http://www.playingwithwire.com/2007/01/why-gentoo-shouldnt-be-on-your-server/]
1346     %
1347     20:08 <schmorp> my guess is, purely practically
1348     20:08 <schmorp> if copyright/patent law continues to go away from the original reasons
1349     20:08 <schmorp> that they were created for
1350     20:08 <schmorp> you will at one point have a civil war
1351     20:08 <schmorp> right now, you already have large-scale civil disobedience
1352 root 1.432 20:10 <scortch> i very much hope that it can be turned around before that happens. not the
1353     least reason is, in a Blade Runner dystopia, there isnt a lot that individuals
1354 root 1.431 can do
1355     20:11 <scortch> i.e. militarily
1356     20:11 <scortch> ah wait.
1357     20:12 <scortch> we are forgetting that low technology solutions are always around
1358     20:12 <schmorp> terrorism :)
1359     20:12 <schmorp> now i finally see the whole plot
1360     20:13 <scortch> that's quite a story
1361     %
1362     23:49 <ruskie> in my experience apart from a few exceptions all gentoo people are rude
1363 root 1.432 23:58 <Err> it seems logical that there is a strong correlation
1364     between (people who like to waste their time, and their computer's
1365     processing time, rebuilding things that have been built a million
1366 root 1.431 times before) and (idiots)
1367     23:58 <Err> (parenthesized for easy parsing ;-) )
1368 root 1.432 23:59 <Err> there are certainly exceptions to every rule - but in
1369     general, gentoo users think that they're getting magical properties
1370 root 1.431 out of rebuilding the same code everybody else builds
1371     %
1372     [http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/]
1373     Bruce Schneier decrypted the Bible. The plaintext read, "Bruce Schneier".
1374     %
1375     [http://www.mail-archive.com/cygwin-patches@cygwin.com/msg03644.html]
1376    
1377     Internet Explorer: KB329781 "HTTP File Upload Operation Takes a Long Time
1378     to Complete". The printing subsystem: KB816627 "TCP/IP port printing may
1379     be slow in Windows 2000"
1380    
1381     In the first KB microsoft amusingly states in relation to the fact that
1382     upload speed is limited to 80kbps no matter what the network bandwidth
1383     that "this behaviour is by design". The mind boggles...
1384     %
1385     [so much for type-safety]
1386     List<Integer> lst = new ArrayList<Integer>;
1387     lst.add(null);
1388     int x = 1 + lst.get(0);
1389     %
1390     [just for reference]
1391     Wenn man weiss, dass man in seinem Leben nicht mehr Glücklich werden
1392     kann, und sich von Tag zu Tag die Gründe dafür häufen, dann bleibt
1393     einem nichts anderes übrig als aus diesem Leben zu verschwinden. Und
1394     dafür habe ich mich entschieden. Es gibt vielleicht Leute die hätten
1395     weiter gemacht, hätten sich gedacht "das wird schon", aber das wird
1396     es nicht.
1397    
1398     Man hat mir gesagt ich muss zur Schule gehen, um für mein leben zu
1399     lernen, um später ein schönes Leben führen zu können. Aber was bringt
1400     einem das dickste Auto, das grösste Haus, die schönste Frau, wenn es
1401     letztendlich sowieso für’n Arsch ist. Wenn deine Frau beginnt dich zu
1402     hassen, wenn dein Auto Benzin verbraucht das du nicht zahlen kannst, und
1403     wenn du niemanden hast der dich in deinem scheiss Haus besuchen kommt!
1404    
1405     Das einzigste was ich intensiv in der Schule beigebracht bekommen habe
1406     war, das ich ein Verlierer bin. Für die ersten jahre an der GSS stimmt
1407     das sogar, ich war der Konsumgeilheit verfallen, habe danach gestrebt
1408     Freunde zu bekommen, Menschen die dich nicht als Person, sondern als
1409     Statussymbol sehen. Aber dann bin ich aufgewacht! Ich erkannte das die
1410     Welt wie sie mir erschien nicht existiert, das sie eine Illusion war,
1411     die hauptsächlich von den Medien erzeugt wurde. Ich merkte mehr und
1412     mehr in was für einer Welt ich mich befand. Eine Welt in der Geld alles
1413     regiert, selbst in der Schule ging es nur darum. Man musste das neuste
1414     Handy haben, die neusten Klamotten, und die richtigen "Freunde". hat
1415     man eines davon nicht ist man es nicht wert beachtet zu werden. Und diese
1416     Menschen nennt man Jocks. Jocks sind alle, die meinen aufgrund von teuren
1417     Klamotten oder schönen Mädchen an der Seite über anderen zu stehen. Ich
1418     verabscheue diese Menschen, nein, ich verabscheue Menschen.
1419    
1420     Ich habe in den 18 Jahren meines Lebens erfahren müssen, das man nur
1421     Glücklich werden kann, wenn man sich der Masse fügt, der Gesellschaft
1422     anpasst. Aber das konnte und wollte ich nicht. Ich bin frei! Niemand darf
1423     in mein Leben eingreifen, und tut er es doch hat er die Konsequenzen zu
1424     tragen! Kein Politiker hat das Recht Gesetze zu erlassen, die mir Dinge
1425     verbieten, Kein Bulle hat das Recht mir meine Waffe wegzunehmen, schon gar
1426     nicht während er seine am Gürtel trägt.
1427    
1428     Wozu das alles? Wozu soll ich arbeiten? Damit ich mich kaputtmaloche um
1429     mit 65 in den Ruhestand zugehen und 5 Jahre später abzukratzen? Warum
1430     soll ich mich noch anstrengen irgendetwas zu erreichen, wenn es
1431     letztendlich sowieso für'n Arsch ist weil ich früher oder später
1432     krepiere? Ich kann ein Haus bauen, Kinder bekommen und was weiss ich
1433     nicht alles. Aber wozu? Das Haus wird irgendwann abgerissen, und die
1434     Kinder sterben auch mal. Was hat denn das Leben bitte für einen
1435     Sinn? Keinen! Also muss man seinem Leben einen Sinn geben, und das
1436     mache ich nicht indem ich einem überbezahlten Chef im Arsch rumkrieche
1437     oder mich von Faschisten verarschen lasse die mir erzählen wollen wir
1438     leben in einer Volksherrschaft. Nein, es gibt für mich jetzt noch eine
1439     Möglichkeit meinem Leben einen Sinn zu geben, und die werde ich nicht wie
1440     alle anderen zuvor verschwenden! Vielleicht hätte mein Leben komplett
1441     anders verlaufen können. Aber die Gesellschaft hat nunmal keinen Platz
1442     für Individualisten. Ich meine richtige Individualisten, Leute die
1443     slebst denken, und nicht solche 'Ich trage ein Nietenarmband und bin
1444     alternativ' Idioten!
1445    
1446     Ihr habt diese Schlacht begonnen, nicht ich. Meine Handlungen sind ein
1447     Resultat eurer Welt, eine Welt die mich nicht sein lassen will wie ich
1448     bin. Ihr habt euch über mich lustig gemacht, dasselbe habe ich nun mit
1449     euch getan, ich hatte nur einen ganz anderen Humor! Von 1994 bis 2003/2004
1450     war es auch mein Bestreben, Freunde zu haben, Spass zu haben. Als ich
1451     dann 1998 auf die GSS kam, fing es an mit den Statussymbolen, Kleidung,
1452     Freunde, Handy usw.. Dann bin ich wach geworden. Mir wurde bewusst das
1453     ich mein Leben lang der Dumme für andere war, und man sich über mich
1454     lustig machte. Und ich habe mir Rache geschworen! Diese Rache wird so
1455     brutal und rücksichtslos ausgeführt werden, dass euch das Blut in den
1456     Adern gefriert. Bevor ich gehe, werde ich euch einen Denkzettel verpassen,
1457     damit mich nie wieder ein Mensch vergisst! Ich will das ihr erkennt, das
1458     niemand das Recht hat unter einem faschistischen Deckmantel aus Gesetz und
1459     Religion in fremdes Leben einzugreifen!
1460    
1461     Ich will das sich mein Gesicht in eure Köpfe einbrennt! Ich will
1462     nicht länger davon laufen! Ich will meinen Teil zur Revolution der
1463     Ausgestossenen beitragen!
1464    
1465     Ich will R A C H E !
1466    
1467     Ich habe darüber nachgedacht, dass die meisten der Schüler die mich
1468     gedemütigt haben schon von der GSS abgegangen sind. Dazu habe ich zwei
1469     Dinge zu sagen:
1470    
1471     1. Ich ging nicht nur in eine klasse, nein, ich ging auf die ganze Schule.
1472    
1473     Die Menschen die sich auf der Schule befinden, sind in keinem Falle
1474     unschuldig! Niemand ist das! In deren Köpfen läuft das selbe Programm
1475     welches auch bei den früheren Jahrgängen lief! Ich bin der Virus der
1476     diese Programme zerstören will, es ist völlig irrelewand wo ich da
1477     anfange.
1478    
1479     2. Ein Grossteil meiner Rache wird sich auf das Lehrpersonal richten,
1480     denn das sind Menschen die gegen meinen Willen in mein Leben eingegriffen
1481     haben, und geholfen haben mich dahin zu stellen, wo ich jetzt stehe; Auf
1482     dem Schlachtfeld! Diese Lehrer befinden sich so gut wie alle noch auf
1483     dieser verdammten schule!
1484    
1485     Das Leben wie es heute täglich stattfindet ist wohl das armseeligste was
1486     die Welt zu bieten hat!
1487    
1488     S.A.A.R.T. - Schule, Ausbildung, Arbeit, Rente, Tod
1489    
1490     Das ist der Lebenslauf eines "normalen" Menschen heutzutage. Aber
1491     was ist eigentlich normal? Als normal wird das bezeichnet, was von der
1492     Gesellschaft erwartet wird. Somit werden heutzutage Punks, Penner,
1493     Mörder, Gothics, Schwule usw. als unnormal bezeichnet, weil sie den
1494     allgemeinen Vorstellungen der Gesellschaft nicht gerecht werden, können
1495     oder wollen. Ich scheiss auf euch! Jeder hat frei zu sein! Gebt jedem
1496     eine Waffe und die Probleme unter den Menschen lösen sich ohne jedliche
1497     Einmischung Dritter. Wenn jemand stirbt, dann ist er halt tot. Und? Der
1498     Tod gehört zum Leben! Kommen die Angehörigen mit dem Verlust nicht klar,
1499     können sie Selbstmord begehen, niemand hindert sie daran!
1500    
1501     S.A.A.R.T. beginnt mit dem 6. Lebensjahr hier in Deutschland, mit der
1502     Einschulung.
1503    
1504     Das Kind begibt sich auf seine perönliche Sozialisationsstrecke, und
1505     wird in den darauffolgenden Jahren gezwungen sich der Allgemeinheit, der
1506     Mehrheit anzupassen. Lehnt es dies ab, schalten sich Lehrer, Eltern,
1507     und nicht zuletzt die Polizei ein. Schulpflicht ist die Schönrede von
1508     Schulzwang, denn man wird ja gezwungen zur Schule zu gehen. Wer gezwungen
1509     wird, verliert ein Stück seiner Freiheit. Man wird gezwungen Steuern zu
1510     zahlen, man wird gezwungen Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungen einzuhalten, man
1511     wird gezwungen dies zu tun, man wird gewzungen das zu tun. Ergo: Keine
1512     Freiheit! Und sowas nennt man dann Volksherrschaft. Wenn das Volk hier
1513     herrschen würde, hiesse es Anarchie!
1514    
1515     WERDET ENDLICH WACH - GEHT AUF DIE STRASSE - DAS HAT IN DEUTSCHLAND
1516     SCHONMAL FUNKTIONIERT!
1517    
1518     Nach meiner Tat werden wieder irgendwelche fetten Politiker dumme
1519     Sprüche klopfen wie "Wir halten nun alle zusammen" oder "Wir
1520     müssen gemeinsam versuchen dies durchzustehen". Doch das machen
1521     sie nur um Aufmerksmakeit zu bekommen, um sich selbst als die Lösung
1522     zu präsentieren. Auf der GSS war es genauso... niemals lässt
1523     sich dieses fette Stück Scheisse von Rektorin blicken, aber wenn
1524     Theater-aufführungen sind, dann steht sie als erste mit einem breiten
1525     Grinsen auf der Bühne und präsentiert sich der Masse!
1526    
1527     Nazis, HipHoper, Türken, Staat, Staatsdiener, Gläubige... einfach alle
1528     sind zum kotzen und müssen vernichtet werden! (Den begriff "Türken"
1529     benutze ich für alle HipHopMuchels und Kleingangster; Sie kommen nach
1530     Deutschland weil die Bedingungen bei ihnen zu hause zu schlecht sind,
1531     weil Krieg ist... und dann kommen Sie nach Deutschland, dem Sozialamt der
1532     Welt, und lassne hier die Sau raus. Sie sollten alle vergast werden! Keine
1533     Juden, keine Neger, keine Holländer, aber Muchels! ICH BIN KEIN SCHEISS
1534     NAZI) Ich hasse euch und eure Art! Ihr müsst alle sterben!
1535    
1536     Seit meinem 6. Lebensjahr wurde ich von euch allen verarscht! Nun müsst
1537     ihr dafür bezahlen!
1538    
1539     Weil ich weiss das die Fascholizei meine Videos, Schulhefte, Tagebücher,
1540     einfach alles, nicht veröffentlichen will, habe ich das selbst in die
1541     Hand genommen.
1542    
1543     Als letztes möchte ich den Menschen die mir was bedeuten, oder die jemals
1544     gut zu mir waren, danken, und mich für all dies Entschuldigen!
1545    
1546     Ich bin weg...
1547     %
1548     01:14 <scortch> its an NP hard for computers
1549     01:14 <elmex> no, it's NP hard for anyone
1550     %
1551 root 1.432 19:18 <elmex> schmorp: eben anner kasse stand jemadn hinter mir und faselte mit seinen
1552     kumpels zum thema bill gates: "... er ist ja mein vorbild, nicht jetzt
1553     wegen dem geld, sondern wegen dem charakterlichen und so ... der hat ja
1554     die haelfte seines vermoegens gespendet.... und ne jacht hat der auch...
1555 root 1.431 abe was fuer eine... voll fettes schiff...'
1556     19:19 <schmorp> *rofl*
1557     19:19 <schmorp> aber nicht wegem dme geld
1558     19:19 <elmex> der studiert glaub ich informatik :)
1559     19:19 <elmex> das is die neue generation
1560     19:19 <elmex> 'generation gates'
1561     19:19 <schmorp> die frage schiene mcirosoft oder schiene java erübrigt sich
1562     %
1563     http://www.bissantz.de/pub/Luegen_mit_Statistiken.pdf
1564     %
1565     [http://use.perl.org/~luqui/journal/]
1566     [The reason I left Perl 6]
1567    
1568     The virtue of social art was extinguished when the solutions that I had
1569     worked for weeks on and I considered truly beautiful lost to syntax
1570     bloat and "DWIM tables". It bascially came down to the rest of the team
1571     considering Perl much more pragmatically than I did, which may end up
1572     better for the end result anyway—it is hard to tell.
1573     %
1574     http://www.ta-sa.org/files/sc/perl6_timeline_updated.png
1575     %
1576     00:20 <schmorp> Mikachu: xjdic lists ぶっかける as to dash (slosh) water (or other liquid)onapersonorinaperson'sface
1577     00:21 <Mikachu> yeah, that made me laugh a bit
1578     00:21 <Mikachu> "or other liquid, know what i mean, nudge nudge"
1579     %
1580     [very funny read]
1581     Hack-a-Bike
1582     USK@vZ8crASNqmw9APiGDtTxV0YvspklNnOTmQin0ZsPLdk,bnUaihNj6Ww8CFvBQo4UwH0pYiS0hOyeKIxvO0tZdJk,AQABAAE/hack-a-bike/1/index_de.html
1583     %
1584     Now that habeas corpus and other basic rights, including the right not to
1585     be tortured while interrogated, have now been deemed unnecessary, more
1586     Americans than ever have been thinking of getting out the door while they
1587     still can.
1588    
1589     http://www.boingboing.net/2006/10/23/getting_out_your_gui.html
1590     %
1591 root 1.432 23:52 <elmex> Zaehlen sie die wichtigsten Berufsfelder der IT-Branche auf:
1592     Java-code-affe, Bussiness-scheisse-laber-affe, Windows-admin,
1593 root 1.431 Windows-user, echter Admin und echter Programmierer.
1594     %
1595     [without words]
1596     http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/1030/104_print.html
1597     %
1598     [http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030217/cockburn]
1599     We're in the twilit world of the "thought crime." Have a photo of a kid in
1600     a bath on your hard drive, and the prosecutor says you were looking at it
1601     with lust in your heart, and that is tantamount to sexually molesting an
1602     actual kid in an actual bath.
1603     %
1604     Don't put stock in the Constitution, anymore. It IS just a piece of paper,
1605     today (actually, since Oct 17th). The Military Commissions Act of 2006
1606     makes the Constitution null and void. You (regardless of your citizenship)
1607     may be held with no charges, for no reason, for an indefinite time, with
1608     absolutely no judicial oversight. It is completely legal for the
1609     government to pick you up and for you to disappear with no one ever knowing
1610     what happened to you.
1611     %
1612 root 1.432 --
1613 root 1.431 Markus Schulz
1614    
1615     A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion
1616     Q: Why is top posting bad?
1617     %
1618     On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 02:05:19AM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
1619 root 1.432 > 1. It's not that I don't want to, but I _can't_ implement kprobes and not
1620     > due to lack of skills, but lack of resources. (There is a subtle but
1621 root 1.431 > important difference.)
1622    
1623     Um, given the amount of time you've spent trying to pursuade us why
1624     you can't implement kprobes for m68k, perhaps you would have
1625     implemented it already if you had buckled down and started coding
1626     instead of flaming about why everyone else should bend over backwards
1627     just because you don't have time for your arch? :-)
1628    
1629     - Ted
1630     %
1631     [http://richarddawkins.net/mainPage.php?bodyPage=article_body.php&id=183]
1632     "I want to see young people who are as committed to the cause of Jesus
1633     Christ as the young people are to the cause of Islam. I want to see them
1634     as radically laying down their lives for the gospel as they are over in
1635     Pakistan and Israel and Palestine and all those different places... Excuse
1636     me, but we have the truth!"
1637     %
1638     [Meijin Title Game #3, Takao Shinji vs. Cho U]
1639     (22) archimed [18k?]: actually, what are considered to be their respective strengths?
1640     (22) zephi [ 7k+]: takao's strength is kickin cho u's butt
1641     (22) zephi [ 7k+]: cho u's a big fighter
1642     %
1643     [nethack extinctionist faq]
1644     The first "extinctionist" ascension on r.g.r.n. (at least from what I can
1645     tell) seems to have been by Matthew Bourland in 2000, who although he
1646     didn't actually kill everything, certainly genocided all (at the time) 256
1647     monster types that were genocidable. Then, after that he extincted all
1648     other randomly generated monsters. On the other hand, having 120 kills
1649     in every category is perhaps more noteworthy (or foolhardy?) than simply
1650     genociding every monster.
1651    
1652     I'd recommend a dose of both. Kill them until they're dead and then
1653     genocide them for good measure!
1654     %%
1655     [nethack instadeath faq]
1656    
1657     * eating Death, Famine, Pestilence, Medusa, or green slime corpses
1658    
1659     Well let's face it, this is just plain stupid. So don't do it!
1660     %
1661     17:57 <zaphod> Murch: Stroemungslehre ist geil
1662     17:57 <Murch> zaphod: hm?
1663 root 1.432 17:57 <zaphod> Murch: "Diese Gleichungen sind, zumindest aus der Sicht eines
1664 root 1.431 Ingenieurs, als exakt anzusehen."
1665     17:58 <Murch> lol
1666     %
1667     22:51 -cfbot:#cf- [Wrathmagic] oh i love killing pirates yes i do i love stabbing them through and through
1668     %
1669     [Brazil and Bush’s War on Terror]
1670     http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/blumen3.html
1671     %
1672     http://trac.syr.edu/tracreports/terrorism/169/
1673     %
1674     http://web3.0log.org/2006/09/01/new-secure-browser-browzar-is-fake-and-full-of-adware/
1675    
1676     There was time when badware developers tried to install ad pages as homepage
1677     or searchpage in user’s IE by any possible means. Nowadays users install
1678     adware voluntarily and write news about it. True web2.0 style!
1679     %
1680     http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/05/universal_time_zone.html
1681    
1682     At the United Nations today President George W. Bush
1683     announced a proposal to unify all the world's time zones
1684     into a single Universal Time Zone (UTZ), formerly known as
1685     the Eastern Time Zone.
1686     [...]
1687     Britain immediately supported the US plan. "If it means
1688     sleeping in broad daylight then we'll stick with our
1689     allies," said Tony Blair, "Of course there's never broad
1690     daylight in the UK, so it's not much of an issue."
1691     %
1692     Wow, and this in security-relevant code... (taken from libc's ld.so)
1693    
1694     _dl_profile_output
1695     = &"/var/tmp\0/var/profile"[__libc_enable_secure ? 9 : 0];
1696     %
1697     [CRYPTO-GRAM]
1698     By January 1st, 2007, everyone crossing the border between the U.S. and Canada is supposed to have
1699     a passport. This is because of terrorism, of course. But now we learn that ferries and private
1700     watercraft will be exempt. One of two things is true. Either passports are required for
1701     security, in which case we should interfere with ferries. Or they're for show, in which case we
1702     can just do what's convenient. Or maybe we just know that terrorists never take ferries. I get
1703     that security is a trade-off, but this is kind of silly.
1704    
1705     http://tinyurl.com/zl5af
1706     %
1707     [famous last words]
1708     11:22 <kaizoku> what do you mean by *plonk*?
1709     %
1710     What make a provider a tier 2, versus a tier 1 provider...
1711    
1712     "We are a tier 1 provider" = "I am a salesperson."
1713    
1714     "They are a tier 2 provider." = "I am a salesperson and they are our competitor".
1715    
1716     --
1717     Jay Hennigan
1718     %
1719     http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/17_Mistakes_Microsoft_Made_in_the_Xbox_Security_System
1720     %
1721     [latimes story about a man returning to the us from iraq and being
1722     held for selling copyrighted images on t-shirts by the department
1723     of homeland security]
1724     http://tinyurl.com/ourlr
1725     %
1726     "Some other types of programs won't make the transition to Windows x64
1727 root 1.432 seamlessly, either. Microsoft ships WinXP x64 with two versions of
1728 root 1.431 Internet Explorer, a 32-bit version and a 64-bit version. The 32-bit
1729     version is the OS default because nearly all ActiveX controls and the like
1730     are 32-bit code, and where would we be if we couldn't execute the full
1731     range of spyware available to us?"
1732    
1733     [http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/64-bits/index.x?pg=1]
1734     %
1735     [http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/kglobalaccel__x11_8cpp-source.html]
1736     00279 if( pEvent->xkey.state & KKeyServer::modXNumLock() ) {
1737     00280 // TODO: what's the xor operator in c++?
1738     %
1739 root 1.432 <Mikachu> give a man a fix and he's running urxvt one day, teach a man
1740 root 1.431 to fix and he will run urxvt all his life
1741     %
1742     The NSA Phone Call Database: The European Perspective
1743     http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2006/05/the_nsa_phone_c.html
1744     %
1745     Oh, I agree completely. No game has ever let me down the way Oblivoin
1746     did. I"m still hoping mods and expansions will fix it but there's no way
1747     I'm pre-ordering the next one. I'm afraid it really will be a first person
1748     shooter.
1749    
1750     The really scary thing is that it's not just video games. Book sales were
1751     done last year because people just don't read as much anymore. I'm having
1752     to dumb down my newspaper editorials because people used to want analysis
1753     they could use to make their own opinions, now they seem to just want
1754     opinions they can quote without having to think for themselves. McDonalds
1755     puts pictures of the food on the cash register instead of numbers.
1756    
1757     Face it. The human race is devolving. In 500 years the best selling RPG
1758     in the universe will be a console game where you roleplay an ape named
1759     Fred, swing on vines and throw your own excrement. You'll have one stat,
1760     apeness. It wiill effect everything you do in a subtle, yet unexplained
1761     way.
1762    
1763     And Bethesda fan boys will be screaming "TES 504: Monkeypoo good. You go
1764     bak cave, no good rpger. Two stats bad. Made feces throw too hard. Shiney
1765     key graphic good. Make me happy."
1766    
1767     *shrugs* But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
1768     %
1769     > So Hitler was a pacifist because he let other people kill for him? Most
1770     > D&D computer games require you to kill people (not simply knock them
1771     > out). Also just because you don't kill doesn't make you a pacifist (see
1772     > above comment about Hitler).
1773    
1774     I invoke the European rule: In any given argument, the first side to
1775     mention Hitler loses.
1776     %
1777     [siggraph '99 course 12]
1778     Unfortunately, including <windows.h> has the unfortunate side effect of
1779     introducing literally thousands of macros and type declarations into
1780     your compilation environment. This undesirable "name space pollution"
1781     can sometimes affect source code portability by conflicting with your
1782     program's own macros and types. This can particularly be a problem for
1783     UNIX programmers that are not familiar with all the junk that comes with
1784     including <windows.h>.
1785     [...]
1786     Win32's requirement that you use wglGetProcAddress is a real drag,
1787     but if you do everything right, using OpenGL extensions works and
1788     gives you access to amazing new OpenGL features. And let's be honest;
1789     wglGet- ProcAddress is hardly the only annoying and awkward thing about
1790     programming with the Win32 API. Still, by using the C preprocessor and
1791     coding carefully, you actually can write OpenGL programs that use OpenGL
1792     extensions and compile from the same source code for both UNIX and Win32
1793     environments.
1794     %
1795     http://neil.franklin.ch/Usenet/alt.folklore.computers/19981207_Computers_are_so_STY00PID
1796     %
1797     [http://www.voynich.net/Kryptos]
1798     "It's easier to rig an electronic voting machine than a Las Vegas slot machine"
1799     %
1800     [CRYPTO-GRAM 2006-03-15]
1801     [...] There are all sorts of interests vying for control of your
1802     computer. There are media companies that want to control what you can
1803     do with the music and videos they sell you. There are companies that
1804     use software as a conduit to collect marketing information, deliver
1805     advertising or do whatever it is their real owners require. And there are
1806     software companies that are trying to make money by pleasing not only
1807     their customers, but other companies they ally themselves with. All these
1808     companies want to own your computer.
1809    
1810     Some examples:
1811    
1812     1. Entertainment software: In October 2005, it emerged that Sony had
1813     distributed a rootkit with several music CDs -- the same kind of
1814     software that crackers use to own people's computers. This rootkit
1815     secretly installed itself when the music CD was played on a computer.
1816     Its purpose was to prevent people from doing things with the music that
1817     Sony didn't approve of: It was a DRM system. If the exact same piece of
1818     software had been installed secretly by a hacker, this would have been
1819     an illegal act. But Sony believed that it had legitimate reasons for
1820     wanting to own its customers' machines.
1821 root 1.432
1822 root 1.431 2. Antivirus: You might have expected your antivirus software to detect
1823     Sony's rootkit. After all, that's why you bought it. But initially, the
1824     security programs sold by Symantec and others did not detect it,
1825     because Sony had asked them not to. You might have thought that the
1826     software you bought was working for you, but you would have been wrong.
1827    
1828     3. Internet services: Hotmail allows you to blacklist certain e-mail
1829     addresses, so that mail from them automatically goes into your spam
1830     trap. Have you ever tried blocking all that incessant marketing e-mail
1831     from Microsoft? You can't.
1832    
1833     4. Application software: Internet Explorer users might have expected
1834     the program to incorporate easy-to-use cookie handling and pop-up
1835     blockers. After all, other browsers do, and users have found them
1836     useful in defending against Internet annoyances. But Microsoft isn't
1837     just selling software to you; it sells Internet advertising as well. It
1838     isn't in the company's best interest to offer users features that would
1839     adversely affect its business partners.
1840    
1841     5. Spyware: Spyware is nothing but someone else trying to own your
1842     computer. These programs eavesdrop on your behavior and report back to
1843     their real owners -- sometimes without your knowledge or consent --
1844     about your behavior.
1845    
1846     6. Update: Automatic update features are another way software companies
1847     try to own your computer. While they can be useful for improving
1848     security, they also require you to trust your software vendor not to
1849     disable your computer for nonpayment, breach of contract or other
1850     presumed infractions.
1851    
1852     Adware, software-as-a-service and Google Desktop search are all
1853     examples of some other company trying to own your computer. And Trusted
1854     Computing will only make the problem worse.
1855    
1856     There is an inherent insecurity to technologies that try to own
1857     people's computers: They allow individuals other than the computers'
1858     legitimate owners to enforce policy on those machines. These systems
1859     invite attackers to assume the role of the third party and turn a
1860     user's device against him.
1861     [...]
1862     You can fight back against this trend by only using software that
1863     respects your boundaries. Boycott companies that don't honestly serve
1864     their customers, that don't disclose their alliances, that treat users
1865     like marketing assets. Use open-source software -- software created and
1866     owned by users, with no hidden agendas, no secret alliances and no
1867     back-room marketing deals.
1868     %
1869     [John Carmack on Java]
1870     Write-once-run-anywhere. Ha. Hahahahaha. We are only testing on four
1871     platforms right now, and not a single pair has the exact same quirks. All
1872     the commercial games are tweaked and compiled individually for each
1873     (often 100+) platform. Portability is not a justification for the awful
1874     performance.
1875     %
1876     [http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,415577,00.html]
1877    
1878     "Wenn ich höre, dass die Telekom mit Microsoft kooperiert, da wird mir
1879     ganz anders", sagte Herbert Tillmann, der Vorsitzende der Produktions-
1880     und Technikkommission von ARD und ZDF dem Blatt. Man bevorzuge offene
1881     Standards und wolle sich der Plattform von Microsoft nicht ausliefern.
1882     %
1883     http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2006/05/german_cannibal.html
1884     %
1885     "Ok, this is complete off topic but WHY do so many Americans think that
1886     once your cross the 49th parellel into Canada that they are going out into
1887     a technology- and civilization-free zone???"
1888     http://p203.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm31
1889     %
1890     http://funroll-loops.org/
1891     %
1892     [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL]
1893     When Direct3D was released in 1995, Microsoft, SGI, and Hewlett-Packard
1894     initiated the Fahrenheit project, which was a joint effort with the
1895     goal of unifying the OpenGL and Direct3D interfaces - and again, adding
1896     a scene-graph API. It initially showed some promise of bringing order
1897     to the world of interactive 3D computer graphics APIs, but on account
1898     of financial constraints at SGI and general lack of industry support
1899     it was abandoned. The engineers involved at SGI held a beach party in
1900     celebration - complete with bonfires on which they burned piles of
1901     Fahrenheit documentation.
1902     %
1903     [Whenever I try to use svn, it fails me. Sure I modified files, but whats
1904     the point of a RCS system that can't cope with that? Besides, I am 100%
1905     sure its much slower than CVS]
1906     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
1907     svn: Won't delete locally modified directory '.'
1908     svn: Left locally modified or unversioned files
1909 root 1.432 [Exit 1]
1910 root 1.431 cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
1911     svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
1912 root 1.432 [Exit 1]
1913 root 1.431 cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn diff
1914     svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
1915 root 1.432 [Exit 1]
1916 root 1.431 [Great, my local fixes are lost now, too. Whoever let this horror loose on
1917     humanity deserves to be shot or something like that]
1918     %
1919 root 1.430 [http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431.12]
1920    
1921     ... I'm evaluating a bunch of J2EE portlet-enabled JSR-compliant MVC
1922     role-based CMS web service application container frameworks. ...
1923 root 1.431 %
1924 root 1.429 Subject: RE: Question about Leap Second Features
1925    
1926     > Is there any implementation for this information on Microsoft operating
1927     > systems ?
1928    
1929     Any Microsoft operating system that is accurate down to the second can
1930     probably be hand-picked from Bill Gates' garage ... ;-)
1931    
1932     Jesper
1933     %
1934 root 1.428 [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ballmer]
1935    
1936     "As far as I can tell, the phrase 'I. Love. This. Company.
1937     YEEEAAAAAAAAARARRRRARAGH!' has FIVE words, not four."
1938    
1939 root 1.432 ~ Oscar Wilde on Steve Ballmer having four words for you.
1940 root 1.429 %
1941 root 1.427 http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/kafkaesque.html
1942     %
1943 root 1.426 [http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136541]
1944    
1945     You've doubled the work. People don't like that. People REALLY don't
1946     like that. The number of duplicate bugs filed against the chooser is
1947     evidence for this. Furthermore, click depth is a standard metric for
1948     measuring HCI usability, and this dialog has moved in the absolute wrong
1949     direction. People won't be satisfied until they get the entry box back
1950     into the dialog. You can grind your teeth and pull your hair all you want,
1951     but that's the truth.
1952     %
1953 root 1.424 [de.alt.ufo]
1954    
1955     Braun Ludwig <Wick84@gmx.de> wrote:
1956    
1957 root 1.432 > 1. Ufos sind für mich Flugobjekte des US Militärs mit einen neuartigen
1958     > Atrieb, der mit einen Motorgenerator von ca 100000 Volt und einer
1959     > Stromstärke von ca 2 mA, einer elektronischen Steuereinheit und einer
1960     > Antriebseinheit auf Kondensator Basis betrieben wird. Zur Erklärung des
1961 root 1.424
1962     Aaha! Naja, die Elektrogravitation ist wirklich seit langem bekannt. Damit aber
1963 root 1.425 einen Antrieb zu realisieren halte ich für weniger wahrscheinlich. So abstrakt
1964     ist diese Funktion nicht und es wären schon mehr als ein Mensch dahinter
1965 root 1.424 gekommen. Ich sicher auch.
1966    
1967     Allerdings schreibst Du hier von einem Generator. Es stellt sich die Frage
1968     was genau man mit 2 mA erzeugen will. Jeder Paralyzer schafft das mit
1969 root 1.425 der Hälfte der Spannung auch. Ich habe aber noch kein Opfer schweben
1970 root 1.424 gesehen. Im Gegenteil - die bewegen sich eigentlich immer ziemlich schnell
1971     in Richtung Boden.
1972    
1973     [...]
1974    
1975 root 1.432 > Dieser Ufo Flugzeug Typ wird in erster Linie als Spionage und
1976 root 1.425 > Aufklärungsflugobject eingesetzt.
1977 root 1.424
1978     Verstehe. Was ist in Afrika so interessant? Bekanntlich gibt oder gab es
1979 root 1.425 da bisher die überwiegenden Sichtungen. Was will z.B. der Ami von den
1980 root 1.424 Eingeborenen erfahren? Wie man richtig Reis oder Getreide kocht?
1981    
1982     [...]
1983    
1984     > 2. ausserirdische Ufo Flugobjekte.
1985 root 1.432 > Es gibt maximal 1 oder 2 oder drei ausserirdische Flugzeug
1986 root 1.425 > Beobachtungen, die tatsächlich wahr sind.
1987 root 1.424
1988     Nur drei? Das muss ich mir merken, damit ich das nicht vergesse. Welche
1989 root 1.425 mögen das Deiner Meinung nach wohl gewesen sein? Das ist ja noch
1990     schlimmer als Cenap, die von etwa 100.000 Fällen 1% erforscht haben,
1991     die wiederum schon im Vorfeld als 'normal' geklärt waren. Mit dieser
1992 root 1.424 Meinung solltest Du zu WW gehen und dich vorstellen. Der nimmmt Dich
1993     sofort.
1994     %
1995 root 1.423 [http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/Tech/connect4.htm]
1996     By the way, decryption can be performed easily in your editor with syntax
1997     like !!tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M (Sorry if you had the misfortune to buy your
1998     software from Microsoft.)
1999 root 1.424 %
2000 root 1.422 http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/
2001 root 1.424 %
2002 root 1.421 > BTW I have 2 English words for you, FUCK YOU
2003    
2004     Why, that's a rather intimate proposal. I never realised you were
2005     gay. While I would like to offer the hand of friendship, I am
2006     afraid that the thought of sex with a grown man doesn't really do
2007     much for me so I shall have to decline with a modicum of regret.
2008 root 1.424 %
2009 root 1.420 http://www.ta-sa.org/files/java_godkk.jpg
2010 root 1.419 http://www.chunder.com/carrots/javasux.html
2011 root 1.424 %
2012 root 1.418 Subject: Re: Docket No. 2005-22114
2013     From: Rodrigo Severo
2014     Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:04:33 -0200
2015     To: tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov
2016    
2017     On 1/23/06, Paul Eggert wrote:
2018    
2019     "David Braverman" <david@inner-drive.com> writes:
2020     It is a bit ironic that the US is less efficient than Brazil in fixing
2021     obviously-broken regulations like this.
2022    
2023     I'm sorry but I have to ask: where is the irony in this? I hope the answer
2024     isn't obvious to people from US and I'm not seeing it just because I'm
2025     brazilian ;)
2026     Rodrigo Severo
2027 root 1.424 %
2028 root 1.431 [Frankly, I'd just like to know what GNOME did wrong to deserve this :]
2029 root 1.417
2030     http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/faq.html#1.13
2031 root 1.424 %
2032 root 1.416 [Another entry in the series "make this a blog":]
2033    
2034     I wanted to see it for myself, and directed my browser to http://www.mpaa.org/.
2035    
2036     Got "Bad Request (Invalid Header Name)".
2037    
2038     Well.. some investigation showed that it didn't like the headers added by
2039     squid (in mostly default debian config).
2040    
2041     *sigh*
2042 root 1.424 %
2043 root 1.415 A LIBERAL DECALOGUE
2044     By Bertrand Russell
2045    
2046     Perhaps the essence of the Liberal outlook could be summed up in a new
2047     decalogue, not intended to replace the old one but only to supplement
2048     it. The Ten Commandments that, as a teacher, I should wish to promulgate,
2049     might be set forth as follows:
2050    
2051     1. Do not feel absolutely certain of anything.
2052    
2053     2. Do not think it worth while to proceed by concealing evidence, for the
2054     evidence is sure to come to light.
2055    
2056     3. Never try to discourage thinking for you are sure to succeed.
2057    
2058     4. When you meet with opposition, even if it should be from your husband
2059     or your children, endeavor to overcome it by argument and not by
2060     authority, for a victory dependent upon authority is unreal and illusory.
2061    
2062     5. Have no respect for the authority of others, for there are always
2063     contrary authorities to be found.
2064    
2065     6. Do not use power to suppress opinions you think pernicious, for if you
2066     do the opinions will suppress you.
2067    
2068     7. Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted
2069     was once eccentric.
2070    
2071     8. Find more pleasure in intelligent dissent that in passive agreement,
2072     for, if you value intelligence as you should, the former implies a deeper
2073     agreement than the latter.
2074    
2075     9. Be scrupulously truthful, even if the truth is inconvenient, for it is
2076     more inconvenient when you try to conceal it.
2077    
2078     10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool's
2079     paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness."
2080    
2081     "A Liberal Decalogue" is from The Autobiography of Bertrand Russell,
2082     Vol. 3: 1944-1969, pp. 71-2.
2083 root 1.424 %
2084 root 1.413 [http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/12/09/502014.aspx]
2085 root 1.412 John Hoy, President of the DVD Copy Control Association, made
2086     the following statement to the Library of Congress in its 2003
2087     Anticircumvention rulemaking proceedings:
2088    
2089     "Furthermore, if a consumer in the United States desires to view a DVD disc
2090     that has been region coded only for Europe, then that consumer is free to
2091     purchase a DVD player (either hardware or software) that is coded to play
2092     European DVDs. No legal restrictions apply-either through the CSS license
2093     or otherwise-to the importation and use of non-U.S. region players in the
2094     United States."
2095 root 1.413 ---
2096     It must really suck to live in a nation where competition is actually
2097     outlawed - you have to feel sorry for all those people oppressed by
2098     communists and socialists. Oh, wait.... ;)
2099 root 1.414 ---
2100     "You ain't seen nothin' yet! I heard that the new HD-DVDs or Blue-ray
2101     discs (whichever win eventually) will be street-encoded. You have to
2102     quote your street name while buying DVDs and they won't work in the next
2103     street. The hidden reason for this is that MPAA wants to charge upwards of
2104     $1000 per DVD for those living in million dollar mansions."
2105    
2106     This isn't far from the truth. Blu-ray disks for PlayStation3 will only
2107     play in ONE player on earth. MS will eventually make up something similar.
2108 root 1.424 %
2109 root 1.411 [gnome-clock and my radio-clock failed miserably, /bin/date and Linux worked:]
2110     Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC
2111 root 1.424 %
2112 root 1.410 [http://www.slate.com/id/2133993/]
2113    
2114     Vulnerabilities deemed "critical" have forced the company to release an
2115     almost unending stream of patches and fixes [...]
2116    
2117     Sure, it might be nice to connect your computer and your television
2118     set. But is it worth it to give hackers access to your television?
2119    
2120     Even if we don't use them, we suffer from them.
2121    
2122     [...] a former senior security analyst for the House of Representatives,
2123     believes that Microsoft is a threat to national security.
2124 root 1.424 %
2125 root 1.409 [Copyright History - US view]
2126     http://www.culturaleconomics.atfreeweb.com/cpu.htm
2127 root 1.424 %
2128 root 1.408 [I just re-read the unix haters hadnbook]
2129     X has had its share of $5,000 toilet seats -- like Sun's Open Look clock
2130     tool, which gobbles up 1.4 megabytes of real memory! If you sacrificed all
2131     the RAM from 22 Commodore 64s to clock tool, it still wouldn't have enough
2132     to tell you the time. Even the vanilla X11R4 "xclock" utility consumed
2133     656K to run. And X's memory usage is increasing.
2134 root 1.424 %
2135 root 1.406 [Got to remember this way of arguing, it's great if it works:]
2136    
2137     "Most people, I think, don’t even know what a rootkit is, so why should
2138     they care about it?"
2139     -- Thomas Hesse, Sony BMG’s Global Digital Business President.
2140 root 1.407
2141     [see also http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004145.php]
2142 root 1.424 %
2143 root 1.405 Let me repeat again: Formal axiomatic systems are a failure!
2144     -- Gregory Chaitin
2145 root 1.424 %
2146 root 1.432 13:49 <RayTracer> pixelsize=14 ist so groß wie 8 beim xchat wenn ich den
2147 root 1.404 gnome-settings-daemon nicht lade
2148     13:50 <schmorp> autsch, was hat das mit dem gnome-settings-daemon zu tun? ist ja hart!
2149     [...]
2150 root 1.432 13:51 <RayTracer> wenn ich den nicht lade sind alle gtk-programme mit großem Font,
2151     wenn ich ihn lade werden sie klein gemacht und wenn ich ihn töte ist
2152 root 1.404 wieder alles groß
2153 root 1.424 %
2154 root 1.403 [man perlsub]
2155     That prints "unphooey". (Yes, there are still unresolved issues
2156     having to do with visibility of @_. I’m ignoring that question
2157     for the moment. (But note that if we make @_ lexically scoped,
2158     those anonymous subroutines can act like closures... (Gee, is this
2159     sounding a little Lispish? (Never mind.))))
2160 root 1.424 %
2161 root 1.402 [glibc's bits/socket.h]
2162    
2163     if ((size_t) __cmsg->cmsg_len < sizeof (struct cmsghdr))
2164 root 1.432 /* The kernel header does this so there may be a reason. */
2165     return 0;
2166 root 1.424 %
2167 root 1.400 http://www.wicked-vision.com/zensur/zensur/zensur_bei_filmen.html
2168 root 1.401
2169     > Die Argumente liefen insbesondere darauf hinaus, dass es sich bei den
2170     > Filmen, auf die in Anspielungen verwiesen wird, um Filme handelt, die
2171     > entweder von der FSK gekennzeichnet wurden mit "nicht freigegeben
2172     > unter 18 Jahren", die von der Bundesprüfstelle indiziert wurden oder
2173     > die sogar durch entsprechende Beschlüsse bundesweit beschlagnahmt
2174     > wurden, also alles Filme, die Kindern und Jugendlichen aufgrund der
2175     > Gesetze zum Jugendschutz von vornherein nicht zugänglich sind. Kindern
2176     > und Jugendlichen wird daher die Persiflage auf diese Filme nicht
2177     > transparent.
2178    
2179     Das muß man sich mal auf der Zunge zergehen lassen: Da wird ein Film,
2180     der ab 18 Jahren freigegeben ist, indiziert, weil Kinder und Jugendliche
2181     die parodistischen Anspielungen nicht verstehen könnten. Mit solchen
2182     Begründungen beraubt sich die BPjS letztlich ihrer Glaubwürdigkeit.
2183 root 1.424 %
2184 root 1.399 Großmanns Gesetz: Komplexe Probleme haben einfache, leichtverständliche,
2185     aber falsche Lösungen.
2186 root 1.424 %
2187 root 1.398 A project done in Java will cost 5 times as much, take twice as long,
2188     and be harder to maintain than a project done in a scripting language such
2189     as PHP or Perl. [http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/09/20#a1762 Java
2190     is the SUV of programming tools] Philip Greenspun
2191 root 1.424 %
2192 root 1.397 On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Till Kamppeter wrote:
2193     >
2194     > Frederic told that the options from the PPD file are intentionally mot
2195     > listed in the printing dialog, the usability team of GNOME was against
2196     > listing these options. They clutter the dialog and can be more confusing
2197     > than useful to the user.
2198    
2199     I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE.
2200    
2201     This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of
2202     Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will
2203     use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long
2204     since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do.
2205    
2206     Please, just tell people to use KDE.
2207    
2208     Linus
2209 root 1.424 %
2210 root 1.396 Move 80, Node 81
2211     theodore [22k?]: i hear 8 d can read the future
2212     setzer [?]: what about 9d
2213     theodore [22k?]: they control it
2214 root 1.424 %
2215 root 1.395 [Fuqid 1.6 FAQ]
2216     Wenn ich HTL auf 300 setze dann lade ich viel schneller runter, warum?
2217    
2218 root 1.398 Weil du daran glaubst, das hat nur psychologische Gründe. HTL's grösser
2219 root 1.395 als das Nodelimit haben einfach keinen Einfluss. PUNKT!
2220     --
2221     Warum wurde Fuqid nicht in der geilen Sprache XX geschrieben?
2222    
2223     Du sprichst nur eine Sprache? Bist du Amerikaner?
2224 root 1.424 %
2225 root 1.393 [Are people responsible for the company they work at?]
2226     I was at a party in New York City earlier this year, and a conversation went like this:
2227    
2228     Person: What do you do?
2229     Me: I'm a computer programmer at Microsoft.
2230     Person: <viciously> I hate you.
2231    
2232     If Miss Manners didn't say so explicitly, I suspect she would nevertheless
2233     agree that snarling "I hate you" to somebody on first introduction is not
2234     exactly getting off on the right foot.
2235 root 1.394
2236     [And this is how that Microsoft programmer reacts to bugs in Microsoft software]
2237     http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/10/17/481810.aspx
2238 root 1.424 %
2239 root 1.392 "The music and film industries are demanding that the European parliament
2240     extends the scope of proposed anti-terror laws to help them prosecute
2241     illegal downloaders."
2242    
2243     Bill Thompson at the BBC has some pertinent commentary:
2244    
2245     "If they cannot come up with a business model which allows them to make
2246     profits without criminalising their customers, trampling over our civil
2247     liberties or installing malware on our computers then they do not deserve
2248     to stay in business, and new ways for artists to reach the public will
2249     have to emerge."
2250    
2251     http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4469886.stm
2252 root 1.424 %
2253 root 1.425 >Damit dürftest du der zweite Mensch sein, den ich kenne, der sich mit
2254 root 1.391 >einer so spartanischen Hardwareausstattung zufrieden gibt:) Ich selbst
2255    
2256     Mein Arbeitsplatz ist eine HP 715/80 - also 80 MHz. Da drauf laeuft der vi
2257     immer noch genauso schnell wie vor zehn Jahren :)
2258    
2259     Bye, Andy
2260 root 1.424 %
2261 root 1.398 [ka.uni.rz.stud, warum bestimmte zeichen in passwörtern verboten sind]
2262 root 1.425 >einem Passwort nicht zulässt, das kann ich nachvollziehen, aber wieso ein
2263 root 1.390 >Dollarzeichen, Leerzeichen, Klammeraffe, Doppelkreuz, Prozent, doppelte
2264 root 1.425 >Anführungszeichen, Paragraph und was es da noch so alles gibt? Und wieso nur
2265 root 1.390
2266     Dollarzeichen: DCE kann nicht damit umgehen.
2267     Leerzeichen: sind nur am Anfang und Ende eines PW verboten - es gibt
2268     System, die das wegstrippen :(
2269     Klammeraffe: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Kill-Zeichen (stammt
2270     halt noch aus der Zeit, als Fernschreiber als I/O-Geraete benutzt
2271     wurde, und ein Fernschreiber, der druckt, kann per Definition kein
2272     Backspace o.ae. haben - Tipp-Ex-Baender waren nicht eingebaut :)
2273     - und es gibt eben noch Systeme, die zum lokalen Login diese STTY-
2274     Settings benutzen. Seit wir die VT100-Terminals abgebaut haben,
2275     ist das fuer Studenten weniger relevant, unser BV behandelt aber
2276     alle Benutzer.
2277     Doppelkreuz: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Erase-Zeichen
2278     Prozent: Mift, das hab' ich mir nicht aufgeschrieben, geht aber auch in
2279     irgendeinem System nicht. Vielleicht sollte man es mal wieder
2280     probieren (bis es knallt)?
2281     Doppelte Anfuehrungszeichen: Wurden von Radius als Begrenzer benutzt. Ja,
2282     der Radius-Server funktionierte nur mit Klartext-Passwoertern :(
2283     Ja, funktionierte, Vergangenheitsform, er ist jetzt endlich tot :)
2284     Ja, damit kann ich die doppelten Anfuehrungszeichen freigeben :)
2285     Paragraph: ist kein ASCII-Zeichen. Das kann die lustigsten Probleme geben,
2286     insbesondere wenn verschiedene encodings benutzt werden - IMHO gibt
2287     es auch Implementierungen, die das 8. Bit wegschneiden...
2288 root 1.424 %
2289 root 1.389 [subversion is just plain broken. I just lost all my local modifications, right?]
2290    
2291     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2292     svn: Working copy '.' locked
2293     svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2294     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn cleanup
2295     svn: 'programs/mythlcd' is not a working copy directory
2296     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2297     svn: Working copy '.' locked
2298     svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2299     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn help cleanup
2300     cleanup: Recursively clean up the working copy, removing locks, resuming
2301     unfinished operations, etc.
2302     usage: cleanup [PATH...]
2303    
2304     Valid options:
2305     --diff3-cmd arg : use ARG as merge command
2306     --config-dir arg : read user configuration files from directory ARG
2307    
2308     [Thanks for the details. Not.]
2309 root 1.424 %
2310 root 1.388 But there's an observation I can't help doing: it seems to me that the
2311     ratio of increase in the complexity of (some aspects of) the language _is_
2312     _much_ _bigger_ than that in the functionality such complexity is supposed
2313     to provide.
2314     - perl6-language - michele dondi
2315 root 1.424 %
2316 root 1.386 [From: perl6-language]
2317    
2318     The fact that there's not alot of active p5p'ers on this list should
2319     alarm people more.
2320    
2321     -Nate
2322    
2323     [...]
2324    
2325     My take on that is that it is because Perl 6 is not a new version of
2326     Perl 5. I still think "Perl" is a misleading name, and mostly hurts the
2327     image of the language that is created here.
2328    
2329     Juerd
2330    
2331     [...]
2332    
2333     (Oh, and that perl6 will never be able to upgrade my scripts that use
2334     'format', but I'm aware of the plan to make that `obsolete' as in: the
2335     perl526 translator will dump core on those)
2336    
2337 root 1.432 --
2338 root 1.386 H.Merijn Brand
2339 root 1.387 %
2340 root 1.385 Die Firma Microsoft warnte asiatische Regierungen am Donnerstag,
2341 root 1.388 dass diese patentrechtlich verklagt werden könnten, wenn sie das
2342 root 1.385 Betriebssystem Linux anstelle von Microsoft's Windows-Software einsetzen.
2343     Nachrichtenagentur Reuters (18. November 2004)
2344 root 1.387 %
2345 root 1.384 [Come on, "kidtalk"???]
2346     http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx
2347 root 1.387 %
2348 root 1.383 [Priceless :)]
2349     http://www.scottmccloud.com/comics/icst/icst-6/icst-6-full.html
2350 root 1.387 %
2351 root 1.382 [http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/15/1312216&from=rss]
2352     >> I hate it whenever Word tries to encourage me not to use passive.
2353     [...]
2354     > Okay then, translate "The window has been broken" into active voice.
2355     "Windows is broken."
2356 root 1.387 %
2357 root 1.381 [Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon on the perl6-language list:]
2358     Removing features simply because their implementation is inconvenient
2359     is not The Perl Way. If it were, Perl 6 would be Java With Sigils.
2360 root 1.387 %
2361 root 1.380 [Incidentally, the USoA is one of the two countries on earth that insist
2362     on being able to kill their children legally]
2363     http://www.post-gazette.com/breaking/20040329pornp6.asp
2364 root 1.387 %
2365 root 1.379 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test]
2366     The Miller test is the United States Supreme Court's test for determining
2367     whether speech or expression can be labeled obscene [...]
2368 root 1.387 %
2369 root 1.377 [http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050923-5346.html]
2370     "They find the anti-pornography crowd disturbing because they believe
2371     that policing pornography violates fundamental rights. This has become
2372     the dominant view in our society: As long as what I do doesn't harm you
2373     personally, I have a right to do it. It's a silly view and a view rejected
2374     by law enforcement policies all over the country."
2375 root 1.378 --
2376     "What we really need is less government and more common sense. The Bush
2377     administration thinks it can win the war in iraq, the war on terror, the
2378     war on drugs, and the war on smut while establishing a lunar colony and
2379     rebuilding New Orleans, all without raising taxes. He really needs a
2380     reality check. I can't believe that with all of this crap going on, Tom
2381     DeLay has the balls to claim that the republican party has eliminated
2382     wasteful government spending."
2383 root 1.387 %
2384 root 1.376 [Attaching 72lbs to spam-reply-envelopes is legal. Do it!]
2385     http://www.vertical-visions.com/_temp/postagepaid/index2.html
2386 root 1.387 %
2387 root 1.375 [Charley Tart on Consensus Trance: <SLAP> <SLAP> Wake up!]
2388     http://www.cantrip.org/charles_tart.html
2389 root 1.387 %
2390 root 1.375 ["It's such a moving story, it must be true"]
2391     http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=246277
2392 root 1.387 %
2393 root 1.374 [Pencil Carving]
2394     http://www.infofreako.com/jad/enpitsu-e.html
2395 root 1.387 %
2396 root 1.374 [Copyright]
2397 root 1.373 http://www.bromsun.com/practice/copyrights/flowchart.html
2398 root 1.387 %
2399 root 1.372 [Die Wirtschaft befreit die Menschen von der Arbeit]
2400     http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/stz/page/detail.php/949236
2401 root 1.387 %
2402 root 1.432 23:10 <mmead> schmorp: A federal appeals court ruled today that the president can indefinitely detain a U.S. citizen
2403     captured on U.S. soil in the absence of criminal charges, holding that such authority is vital to protect the
2404 root 1.371 nation from terrorist attacks.
2405 root 1.432 23:10 <mmead> A congressional resolution after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks "provided the President all powers
2406     necessary and appropriate to protect American citizens from terrorist attacks by those who attacked the United
2407 root 1.371 States on Sept. 11,'' the decision said.
2408 root 1.432 23:10 <mmead> The decision by a three-judge panel was written by Judge J. Michael Luttig, who sources have said is under
2409     consideration by President Bush for nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court.
2410 root 1.387 %
2411 root 1.370 [Looks extreme]
2412     http://www.counterpunch.org/
2413 root 1.387 %
2414 root 1.369 [Some glimpse of what happened in New Orleans]
2415     "As we approached the bridge, armed Gretna sheriffs formed a line across the
2416     foot of the bridge. Before we were close enough to speak, they began firing
2417     their weapons over our heads."
2418     http://www.livejournal.com/users/malbec/1052572.html
2419 root 1.387 %
2420 root 1.368 [Global Average Temperature vs. Number of Pirates]
2421     http://www.sheise.de/files/PirateGraph.jpg
2422 root 1.387 %
2423 root 1.367 [http://www.fefe.de/nowindows/]
2424     Many people using Windows don't care about their freedom. They do care
2425     about quality software and for that reason try to replace all the user
2426     space software from Microsoft with better free alternatives. This is the
2427     sole reason for the existance of cygwin.
2428 root 1.387 %
2429 root 1.366 [http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/trusted_computing/20031001_tc.php]
2430 root 1.387 %
2431 root 1.366 The TCG has resisted defining "owner" for purposes of their spec, despite
2432     several requests for clarification.
2433    
2434     Think of it this way: most computer-related "stuff" now has a "licensed,
2435     not sold" tag attached. Ask yourself again, then, who has ultimate control
2436     unter TCG definitions.
2437 root 1.387 %
2438 root 1.366 But rememer they aren't doing anything wrong and they aren't trying to
2439     force anything on you. It is all opt-in and you always get to set the
2440     policy on your computer. It's just that nothing works any more unless you
2441     do opt-in and you do set your policy exactly they way they tell you to.
2442 root 1.387 %
2443 root 1.366 It's not coercion. It's for security. It helps the economy. It thwarts
2444     terrorists. TPM gives flags to orphans if that's what it needs to do to
2445     get people on board.
2446     %
2447 root 1.365 To have a secure computer, you must download the latest
2448     patches. Therefore, you must upgrade to SP4, and therefore, you must
2449     accept the EULA that requires you to agree with Microsoft's proprietary
2450     DRM.
2451    
2452     The end is near. Security patches will soon require your body to be
2453     injected with RFID. Surely, we are all doomed.
2454 root 1.387 %
2455 root 1.364 [http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/09/01/1419222.shtml?tid=172&tid=109]
2456     switch ($decade) {
2457     case "the 50's":
2458     s/the Boogyman/Communist agitators/g;
2459     break;
2460     case "the 60's":
2461     s/the Boogyman/acid-eating hippies/g;
2462     break;
2463     case "the 70's":
2464     s/the Boogyman/disco/g;
2465     break;
2466     case "the 80's":
2467     s/the Boogyman/mutual assured destruction (and Grenada!)/g;
2468     break;
2469     case "the 90's":
2470     s/the Boogyman/evil hackers and George Michael/g;
2471     break;
2472     case "the 00's":
2473     s/the Boogyman/terrorists/g;
2474     break;
2475     }
2476 root 1.387 %
2477 root 1.363 http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2005/08/curiosities-from-japans-porno-shops.html
2478    
2479     "How fucking creepy is that? As you can see from the flyer included
2480     in the capsule (note the kiddie crayon font), the other toys in the
2481     assortment include little girls spreading their legs, little girls sucking
2482     suggestively on popsicles, and little girls dry-humping their teddy bears"
2483    
2484     "Interestingly enough, none of the cans were very long - maybe six inches
2485     at the most. I was trying to avoid the whole Asian-men-have-small-penises
2486     thing, but they kind of handed it to me on a silver platter."
2487    
2488     ""Maybe I should just try it. Just see what it feels like..." I mean,
2489     why not, right? You know. Just for kicks, right? So you know what? I
2490     fucked it. Yeah. I fucked a plastic beer can. I fucked the shit out of
2491     that can. And you know what? It felt alright. It did the trick. That
2492     is, until it was all over. Until the moment after, when I was hit by a
2493     sobering freight train of humility, looking down at my dick stuck inside a
2494     latex vagina housed in a plastic beer can. Moments like that you start to
2495     question everything - "How the hell did it come to this? Who am I? What am
2496     I doing with my life?" I probably sat there for an hour, silently with my
2497     plastic lover, pondering my existence."
2498 root 1.387 %
2499 root 1.362 "The scholars of Islam, such as Malik, Ash-Shafi`i, Ahmad and Ishaaq said
2500     that (the person guilty of this crime) should be stoned, whether he is
2501     married or unmarried."
2502    
2503     http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547102
2504     http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/02/Article01-0.shtml
2505     http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/07/Article02.shtml
2506     http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545556
2507     http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543324
2508 root 1.387 %
2509 root 1.362 http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503546996
2510    
2511     [I like this comparison between of and watching television:]
2512     Your brother is not at all different from those who have been conditioned
2513     to fornicate, or commit theft or murder, or who have become addicted to
2514     watching pornography or even television for that matter. All of these
2515     are destructive habits that one learns through continuous exposure or
2516     conditioning.
2517    
2518     [And this is religion at its best:]
2519     Let him continuously read, reflect and meditate on the verses of the
2520     Qur'an that deal with the punishment meted to the nation who practiced
2521     this abomination; let him also read the verses depicting hell fire.
2522 root 1.387 %
2523 root 1.361 [Racism]
2524     http://www.flickr.com/photos/firewall/38725768/
2525 root 1.387 %
2526 root 1.360 [A link, just a link]
2527     http://www.oilcrisis.com/
2528 root 1.387 %
2529 root 1.359 As you may have noticed, the HOWTO is getting stale, you can't subscribe to
2530     the mailinglist and a lot of messages sent to it aren't getting through.
2531    
2532     I apologise for this.
2533    
2534     If all goes well I'll get my driver's license this Tuesday, which will allow
2535     me to visit the server, which I can't easily reach right now.
2536 root 1.387 %
2537 root 1.358 PSYC @> el says: von java bekommt man krebs
2538     induktiv says: java is ein riesiger marketing misthaufen voll mit code von uebereifrigen fh-programmierern
2539     el says: ich kenn da wen
2540     el says: bei dem wars so
2541     [...]
2542     PSYC @> el says: und.. naja, der hat also ganz viel java programmiert
2543     el says: und bekam augenkrebs
2544     el says: gehirntumor auch
2545     el says: ich weiss nicht, was vorher da war
2546 root 1.387 %
2547 root 1.357 wget http://el.l.tobij.de/ratz.jpg && xsetbg ratz.jpg
2548 root 1.387 %
2549 root 1.356 [in a reply to a school work assignment about proving why env vars make
2550     no sense in the kernel]
2551     From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
2552    
2553     [...]
2554    
2555     Mathematical proofs are accomplished within a framework of mathematical
2556     models.
2557    
2558     In the postmodern time period and we gave up belief that the mathematical
2559     models are an accurate representation of reality. We only expect that
2560     they are sufficiently accurate for the purposes at hand.
2561 root 1.387 %
2562 root 1.354 [such nice quotes from http://theinquirer.net/?article=24638]
2563     There will be EF devices, EF branded content and probably EF branded
2564     contraceptives to use while watching EF branded porn.
2565     --
2566     Any DRM on a machine is simply a sign of failure.
2567 root 1.355 --
2568     This crushing DRM that is being foisted upon you is the surest sign that
2569     you don't want this product, and you will be paying too much for it. Don't
2570     like that? Bought legislators are hard at work making sure you will go to
2571     jail if you try to exercise your rights on the issue.
2572 root 1.387 %
2573 root 1.353 An absolutely fascinating interview with Robert Pape, a University of
2574     Chicago professor who has studied every suicide terrorist attack since
2575     1980. "The central fact is that overwhelmingly suicide-terrorist
2576     attacks are not driven by religion as much as they are by a clear
2577     strategic objective: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military
2578     forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland."
2579     <http://www.amconmag.com/2005_07_18/article.html>
2580     [From: CRYPTO-GRAM 2005-08-15]
2581 root 1.387 %
2582 root 1.352 [If you are a US citizen, you might want to fight for the right to vote,
2583     which you currently do not posess]
2584     http://reclaimdemocracy.org/political_reform/right_to_vote.html
2585 root 1.387 %
2586 root 1.388 Kind: "Daad! Die alten Griechen mußten 44 Arten der Selbstverteidigung lernen, ohne Waffen!"
2587     Vater: "Dafür haben wir eine zweistufige elektrische Heckenschere."
2588 root 1.351 [Nach: Time Bandits]
2589 root 1.387 %
2590 root 1.350 http://www.cpmission.com/main/painpolitics/mdjackson.html
2591 root 1.387 %
2592 root 1.349 Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off
2593     a horse.." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse.."
2594 root 1.387 %
2595 root 1.432 Tcl is LISP on drugs. Using strings instead of S-expressions for closures
2596     is Evil with one of those gigantic E's you can find at the beginning of
2597     paragraphs.
2598 root 1.387 %
2599 root 1.347 [the average IQ seems to be declining]
2600     http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000953.html
2601     http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/
2602 root 1.387 %
2603 root 1.346 [http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/07/31/0626257.shtml?tid=153&tid=98&tid=95&tid=103&tid=219]
2604     > If you know anything, most catholics register as democrats
2605    
2606     Most catholics aren't American.
2607 root 1.387 %
2608 root 1.345 [Some things possibly cannot exist...]
2609    
2610     [http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/depleted-uranium.html]
2611     In NEWS1920, we demonstrated how America's widespread usage of Depleted
2612     Uranium munitions is fulfilling the prophetic End of the Age prophecy
2613     against Babylon (Iraq). Now, we examine how our D.U. is quite possibly
2614     fulfilling another major prophecy: Revelation 6:3-4
2615    
2616     [http://cuttingedge.org/detail.cfm?ID=939]
2617     How Mormon Temples Are Built To Be Demon Magnets
2618 root 1.387 %
2619 root 1.344 [http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/23/egypt.explosions/index.html]
2620     Asked whether he thought the blasts might be related to Islam, he
2621     replied, "What Islam? This terrorism has nothing to do with any religion,
2622     because all religions do not allow aggression and do not allow killing
2623     civilians in innocence. Those don't belong to Muslims. They are a gang of
2624     criminals."
2625 root 1.387 %
2626 root 1.343 The Black Hole in the Galactic Center
2627     [http://www.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de/staff/hfalcke/bh/sld1.html]
2628 root 1.387 %
2629 root 1.342 To me anything above 30 fps is good and 45-50 is amazing... 75 is more
2630     than I've seen lol. Then again I come from a mac
2631 root 1.387 %
2632 root 1.341 [There are things the US congress can do that were far beyond my imagination]
2633     http://reason.com/rauch/99_08_07.shtml
2634 root 1.387 %
2635 root 1.340 The MSI MS-9130 (K8T Master2-FAR) is an excellent board. The only problem
2636     I had was with my video card shorting out and frying both the board and
2637     card (They went up in flames).
2638 root 1.387 %
2639 root 1.432 05:46 <mmead> AP and UPI reported that the French government announced yesterday that
2640     it has raised its terror alert level from "run" to "hide." The only two
2641     higher levels in France are "surrender" and "collaborate." The action
2642     was precipitated by the recent fire which destroyed one of France's
2643 root 1.338 white flag factories, disabling their military.
2644 root 1.432 05:47 <mmead> it's obviously been recirculated recently:
2645 root 1.339 http://www.edthibodeau.com/nonplussed/2004/10/french_terror_a.html
2646 root 1.387 %
2647 root 1.337 [The following quote from a NASA press release shows impressively how much
2648     we know. And more importantly, how to build up scientific knowledge part
2649     by part. "Knowledge" always has a margin-of-error inherently attached to it.]
2650    
2651     "The cloud indicated the comet is covered in the powdery stuff."
2652    
2653     [http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/text/di_pr_20050708.txt]
2654 root 1.387 %
2655 root 1.336 [http://www.skippy.net/blog/2005/06/09/security-through-stupidity/]
2656     Silly questions abound, all to cover people's butts. When I moved to
2657     the US in 1992 (from Canada), one of the questions on my green card
2658     application was "Do you, or any member of your immediate family, plan to
2659     violently overthrow the government of the United States or assasinate any
2660     elected official?" Not only did they have checkboxes for "yes" and "no",
2661     but they had a blank space labelled, "If you checked 'yes', please provide
2662     a detailed explanation in the space below." I never figured out what kind
2663     of explanation would make them give you a green card anyway.
2664     --
2665     Hasbro should ask the same. Teddy Ruxpin chips were found on a number
2666     of landmines during the first gulf war... First, we just thought these
2667     people REALLY hate Teddy Ruxpin, maybe we're not so different after all...
2668     but on further investigation, Ruxpin had easily-programmable EEPROMs, so
2669     the Ruxpin chip was actually being repurposed as a controller for the
2670     explosives. They were jackin' overseas deliveries to get the Ruxpins.
2671 root 1.387 %
2672 root 1.335 http://graphics.stanford.edu/~danielrh/vote/vote.html
2673     The Obfuscated V contest
2674 root 1.387 %
2675 root 1.335 Airplane security is getting surreal: "...FAA regulation that requires
2676     soldiers -- all of whom were armed with an arsenal of assault rifles,
2677     shotguns and pistols -- to surrender pocket knives, nose hair scissors and
2678     cigarette lighters."
2679     http://tinyurl.com/7z8my
2680 root 1.387 %
2681 root 1.334 <http://babygimp.sourceforge.net/>
2682     Does it run under Windows ?
2683     - Who cares?
2684 root 1.387 %
2685 root 1.333 [Can hot water freeze faster than cold water?]
2686 root 1.332 http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html
2687 root 1.387 %
2688 root 1.331 http://www.physik3.gwdg.de/~rgeisle/nld/sbsl-howto.html
2689     Single Bubble Sonoluminescence HOWTO
2690     [...]
2691     Don't bother me with "my bottle exploded, what was wrong?"-stuff; While the bottle is heated it mustn't be closed!
2692     [...]
2693     Darken your room completely. Adapt your eyes, which may take 15 minutes up
2694     to half an hour. Look at the flask or at least where you think your flask
2695     is (remember: the room is completely darkened).
2696 root 1.387 %
2697 root 1.329 [de.alt.ufo]
2698 root 1.432 > Ja, stimmt - ich hatte mich früher viel mit Leuten beschäftigt, die
2699     > wahrscheinlich entführt wurden, oder bei denen es den Anschein hatte. Im
2700     > Moment beschäftige ich mich mit der Konstruktion eines kleinen UFO-
2701 root 1.388 > Detektors, der die UFO- Ereignisse auch zählt.-
2702 root 1.330 > www.ufo-finder.de
2703 root 1.432 > Aber Feld-Forscher bin ich deshalb noch nicht. Das geht gesundheitlich nicht
2704 root 1.330 > mehr!
2705     > richy.
2706    
2707     Und es gibt wirklich Deppen, die sich von dir abzocken lassen??
2708 root 1.387 %
2709 root 1.330 [de.alt.ufo]
2710 root 1.329 > Wie kann ich online etwas belegen, das sich in der Vergangenheit
2711     > zugetragen hat?
2712    
2713     Das solltest Du Dich selbst mal fragen. Wenn Du es nicht belegen kannst,
2714     warum behauptest Du es dann?
2715 root 1.388 [später]
2716     > Ach, wenn es interessant wird, umfängt Dich Faulheit?
2717 root 1.329
2718     Bei dir ist das angemessen, du hast deinen Ruf weg.
2719     Du plapperst immer nur von Belegen, verlangst letzten Endes
2720     naturwissenschaftliche/physikalische Beweise (genaugenommen:
2721     ein Alien-craft zum Vorfuehren), darunter akzeptierst du nichts,
2722     aber das stellt sich erst nach ellenlangen threads heraus.
2723    
2724     Aber das ist bekannt, und eigentlich belanglos.
2725    
2726     Wer sich auf Debatten mit dir einlaesst und Argumente erwartet
2727     von jemand, der die Wissenschaft zur Ersatzreligion verquast,
2728     ist eigentlich selbst schuld.
2729 root 1.387 %
2730 root 1.388 [de.alt.ufo, über einen www.rtl.de-news-Artikel]
2731 root 1.328 Wie die Skepsos so schoen sagen: der Verfasser von dem Quark war so offen,
2732     dem ist das Gehirn rausgefallen.
2733 root 1.387 %
2734 root 1.327 [res_nsend.c]
2735     /* give the hook another try */
2736     if (++loops < 42) /*doug adams*/
2737     break;
2738 root 1.387 %
2739 root 1.326 [sr_port/mdq.h]
2740 root 1.432 /* Insert a doubly-linked list of elements from "n->q.fl" to "n->q.bl"
2741 root 1.326 in between "o" and "o->q.fl" */
2742     #define dqadd(o,n,q) ((o)->q.fl->q.bl=(n)->q.bl,(n)->q.bl->q.fl=(o)->q.fl,(o)->q.fl=(n)->q.fl,(n)->q.fl->q.bl=(o))
2743 root 1.387 %
2744 root 1.325 Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
2745 root 1.387 %
2746 root 1.324 * Andreas Waechter <mail@andreas-waechter.de> [06-25-05 00:58]:
2747 root 1.432 > No, Thunderbird should not "reply" to the list with the
2748 root 1.324 > current settings of the list.
2749 root 1.432 >
2750     > There is no "Reply-To" header, thus a "Reply" has to go to
2751     > the address in the "From" header - which is the address of
2752 root 1.324 > the original sender, not the list.
2753 root 1.432 >
2754     > The List address is in the "To" field. Thus only a "Reply
2755     > All" will go to the list as CC (and to the original sender
2756 root 1.324 > as TO).
2757 root 1.432 >
2758 root 1.324 > Don't blame my mail client for the set-up of the list.
2759    
2760     Your *mail* client is *not* being blamed. It is *your*
2761     responsibility. No one disputes your choice of mail client, but it
2762     *is* your responsibility to see that *your* posts are properly
2763     addressed to the list, not the list's software or the people you are
2764     being discourteous to.
2765    
2766     The *fault* is *all* yours. It is/was your choice.
2767     --
2768     Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535
2769 root 1.387 %
2770 root 1.323 [http://www.heise.de/ct/00/20/104/]
2771 root 1.388 "Sie können mit falschen Tatsachen Leute überzeugen, das ist nun mal so."
2772 root 1.387 %
2773 root 1.322 An appeals court in Minnesota has ruled that the presence of encryption
2774     software [PGP] on a computer may be viewed as evidence of criminal intent.
2775     http://www.granick.com/archive/2005_05_01_theshout_archive.html#1117581
2776     http://news.com.com/Minnesota+court+takes+dim+view+of+encryption/2100-1030_3-5718978.html
2777     http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/archive/ctappub/0505/opa040381-0503.htm
2778 root 1.387 %
2779 root 1.322 [http://www.komotv.com/stories/37150.htm]
2780     "They said 'no' and they said it's a national security issue. And I said
2781     what about my constitutional rights? And they said 'not at this point ...
2782     you don't have any'."
2783 root 1.323
2784     [I also am very fond of this quote:]
2785     "My concern is that if that's the way they're treating American citizens I
2786     would hate to think how they're treating other people. It's crazy."
2787     [Don't they have _any_ ethics?? What about equality? Ah well, I forgot...]
2788 root 1.387 %
2789 root 1.321 [http://wiki.ffii.org/CampIcecream050601En]
2790     Yes its true! If you go down to Place du Luxembourg from now until
2791     3pm, you can collect your free icecream and support the Computer
2792     Implemented Inventions Common Position!
2793 root 1.387 %
2794 root 1.319 [http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation/algorithm/upconversion/index.htm]
2795     The change from Blitz to standard arrays had little effect on the
2796     execution time so I stuck with the standard type. The standard arrays
2797     should be more acceptable to developers who want to modify the code.
2798     Insisting that the developer use a certain array container for no good
2799     reason will not win many fans.
2800    
2801     [http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation.html has other nice
2802     documents in the algorithm section]
2803 root 1.387 %
2804 root 1.318 ["Blue in the Face"]
2805     Ich kriege in New York keine Angst, nein... aber in Schweden...da isses
2806     irgendwie so leer und da sind alle betrunken... und alles funktioniert...
2807     und, naja, wnen du an einer roten Ampel den motor nicht abstellst, reden
2808     die leute mit dir.... die zeigen da im fernsehen ohrenoperationen...
2809    
2810     Solche dinge machen mir Angst... nicht New York.
2811 root 1.387 %
2812 root 1.317 And before I forget it, readers fascinated by the idea of Central
2813     Europeans using A6 as a toilet paper size might also be interested to hear
2814     that the U.S. have for the same application field a standard square format
2815 root 1.388 of 4.5×4.5 in = 114×114 mm, which is for instance documented in New Jersey
2816 root 1.317 Specification No. 7572-01 (May 1997), section 2.3.
2817     [http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html]
2818 root 1.387 %
2819 root 1.316 [Better know what they actually do...]
2820 root 1.388 [Technische Richtlinie / Telekommunikationsüberwachung]
2821 root 1.316 http://www.regtp.de/imperia/md/content/tech_reg_t/ueberwachu/TR_TKUE_Ausgabe_4.1_29-11-2004.pdf
2822 root 1.315 [RFC3924 Cisco Architecture for Lawful Intercept in IP Networks]
2823     ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3924.txt
2824 root 1.387 %
2825 root 1.314 [rfc4096]
2826     The FTC called a summit of leading thinkers, and the regulation was
2827     amended to read "but don't use languages that go from right to left
2828     or up and down instead of plain old left to right." Needless to say,
2829     the reaction from the Freedonian League for the Defense of Linguistic
2830     Diversity killed that proposed regulation really quickly.
2831 root 1.387 %
2832 root 1.313 [just a really nice md5sum]
2833     99421268df476006401f11f96b655248
2834 root 1.387 %
2835 root 1.312 [a comment in some g729 sample implementation]
2836 root 1.432 * For G.729(,A,B) royalty payments, see http://www.sipro.com
2837 root 1.312 * WARNING: please make sure you are sitting down before looking
2838     * at their price list.
2839 root 1.387 %
2840 root 1.311 [http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=139347&cid=11665921]
2841     You'd think I was overgeneralizing, but I'm not. Absolutely every single
2842     time I see HN in use, I quickly end up learning that the programmer who
2843     wrote the code was an idiot. On at least two separate occasions, I've
2844     had to correct C code with HN that did not allocate space for the null
2845     terminator on any strings anywhere in the code. That's pretty much the
2846     level of programming talent you can expect when you see HN in use.
2847 root 1.387 %
2848 root 1.309 21:22 <mmead> tiger's SMB support is fucking broken
2849     21:26 <oesi> mmead: when you grow up, you will substitute "'s SMB support" by "" :)
2850 root 1.387 %
2851 root 1.308 03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> ich dachte immer alle beinhaltet mehr als 1
2852     03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> aba naja
2853     03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <oesi> nein, viele beinhaltet mehr als 1
2854     03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <bani_> stimmt auch wieder
2855 root 1.387 %
2856 root 1.319 [ein so gut geschriebenes dokument erwartet man eigentlich nicht mal vom BSI]
2857 root 1.307 http://www.bsi.bund.de/literat/studien/antispam/antispam.pdf
2858 root 1.387 %
2859 root 1.306 [some SPAM]
2860     Freie Geschlechtabbildungen und -filme. Und Phasennetznocken
2861 root 1.387 %
2862 root 1.305 cowsay -f head-in oink | cowthink -n -f sodomized
2863 root 1.387 %
2864 root 1.304 [star wars episode guide]
2865     1 =Epichode 1: The Phantom Grimace
2866     2 =Epichode 2: Attack of the Groans
2867     3 =Epichode 3: Revenge of the Shit
2868     4 = Episode 4: A New Hope
2869     5 = Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back(By far the best Star Wars film. One of the finest movies ever made.)
2870     6 = Episode 6: Return of the Jedi(would have been a thousand times cooler if the ewoks had been Wookies).
2871     [http://www.beggingtodiffer.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=pp;action=display;num=1113843411]
2872 root 1.387 %
2873 root 1.300 [God knows his enemies]
2874     http://sheise.de/files/GODvsBUSH.gif
2875 root 1.302 [Uh-oh, "se germans are next"]
2876 root 1.303 http://sheise.de/files/cnn_iraq.jpg [a fake, but nevertheless]
2877 root 1.387 %
2878 root 1.299 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054743/
2879 root 1.301 [Why is it that every good Hollywood movie is at least 30+ years old?]
2880 root 1.387 %
2881 root 1.298 [http://www.bildblog.de/]
2882 root 1.388 Die "Bild"-Zeitung schreibt Blödsinn, und alle schreiben's ab. Die
2883     rührende Geschichte von den "Unfallforschern", die angeblich "ermittelt"
2884     hätten, was doch nur eine schlichte Umrechnung von Stundenkilometern in
2885 root 1.298 Meter pro Sekunde ist, zieht Kreise.
2886    
2887     Nachrichtenagentur ddp, 3. Mai, 03:16 Uhr:
2888    
2889     Laut "Bild" ermittelten Unfallforscher, dass ein Auto bei einer
2890     Geschwindigkeit von 50 Kilometern pro Stunde etwa 14 Meter pro Sekunde
2891 root 1.388 ungebremst weiterfährt, während der Fahrer nach einer fallengelassenen
2892 root 1.298 Zigarette sucht.
2893    
2894     Nachrichtenagentur AFP, 3. Mai, 04:25 Uhr:
2895    
2896     [usw.]
2897    
2898     Bei "Stern Online" ist aus den "Unfallforschern" schon eine ganze "Studie"
2899 root 1.388 geworden, die plötzlich zu Ergebnissen kommt, die nur scheinbar mit den
2900 root 1.298 bekannten "Ermittlungen" identisch sind:
2901    
2902     Nach Auffassung des SPD-Verkehrsexperten Peter Danckert kann eine
2903     brennende Zigarette den Fahrer jedoch ebenso wie ein klingelndes
2904     Telefon ablenken. Er verwies auf eine Studie, nach der ein 50
2905     Stundenkilometer schnelles Auto mindestens 14 Meter weiterrolle, wenn
2906     der Fahrer nach einer Zigarette sucht.
2907 root 1.387 %
2908 root 1.388 [schlimmer als de.alt.ufo, schlimmer als jede Verarschung sein könnte...]
2909 root 1.297 http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2005/01/22/sonne__boese/sonne__boese.html
2910     http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2004/12/28/seebeben/zerreisst__unsere__erde.html
2911 root 1.387 %
2912 root 1.296 [http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=147629&cid=12370229]
2913     Which fanboy are you?
2914    
2915     1. Windows
2916    
2917     You wear wraparound sunglasses, even indoors. You wish your mother
2918     would let you ride a motorbike. You tell your friends you're pulling
2919     in $50,000 a year and $2,000 a month "playing the stock market" but
2920     in reality you're only bringing in half that and your dividends from
2921     MSFT havn't been good in years. Your non computing friends all turn
2922     to you for help; you only charge $30 an hour. Your collegues talk
2923     about you behind your back. Your workplace nickname is likely to be
2924     "The Asshole". Unlike the Linux fanboys, you actually try to pick up
2925     dates in bars but women laugh at you.
2926    
2927     2. Apple
2928    
2929     You think you're so cool you hurt. You have mirrors on every wall
2930     in your "loft apartment", which is really a grimy little apartment
2931     next to a guy who plays Guns 'n Roses at 3am. All of your furniture
2932     is from Ikea. You sometimes think that changing your name to "Steve"
2933     would be "pretty cool". When you go to bars you only drink Miller
2934     Lite. No body ever asks you for help with their computers because
2935     they know you don't know anything but OS X, even if you do tell them
2936     you "run Unix" now. Your friends openly laugh at you.
2937    
2938     3. Linspire
2939    
2940     You regularly give $10 bills to homeless guys because you have
2941     too much money. Computers baffle you, but you enjoy looking at
2942     pictures of naked women. You don't know what Linux is, but you
2943     continually bugged the IT guy at work about your computer so he
2944     installed Linspire on your machine.
2945    
2946     4. Umbongo
2947    
2948     You shop at GAP. You probably used to use a Mac. When you saw the
2949     multiracial image used as a desktop picture and heard that this
2950     operating system came from the same country as Nelson Mandela, you
2951     knew it was for you. You meet with your friends in fair-trade coffee
2952     houses and talk about the eventual overthrow of evil corporations
2953     such as Microsoft and Starbucks. Like the Linspire user, you have
2954     very little real knowlege when it comes to computers but you would
2955     never use your computer to look at pictures of women degrading
2956     themselves.
2957    
2958     5. Gentoy
2959    
2960     You've been "into computers" for ohh, one or two years now and fancy
2961     yourself as "a bit of a hacker". Wouldn't know C from C++, or even
2962     Perl for that matter. Older Gentoy users may be building their homes
2963     from matchsticks. You've explained to all your friends that your
2964     matchstick house will have an "optimised floorplan". They've tried
2965     to tell you that your house violates every known building code and
2966     law in your area, but you've ignored them so far because you can't
2967     read those complicated regulatory documents.
2968    
2969     6. Linux From Scratch
2970    
2971     Much like the Gentoy user but you'd also be into sadomasochistic
2972     sex if you could get it. You're not just building a house from
2973     matchsticks, you're planing to grow the trees to make the
2974     matchsticks. You've cleared some land but don't know what to do next
2975     because you havn't read the books you've got, so you've posted to
2976     alt.arborists.newbie asking for help. It's been three days so far
2977     and no one has replied. You remain hopeful.
2978 root 1.387 %
2979 root 1.295 [/usr/bin/cowsay]
2980     if (($^O eq "MSWin32") or ($^O eq "Windows_NT")) { ## Many perls, eek!
2981 root 1.387 %
2982 root 1.294 [A few days after the 6.0.9 release announcement]
2983    
2984     In the spirit of release early, release often.... Err no, actually more
2985     in the spirit of, let's not try to lose data during file resolution...
2986    
2987     Coda 6.0.10 is out
2988 root 1.387 %
2989 root 1.293 <opine@orifice2.com> wrote:
2990    
2991     > > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:55:28 -0800, CrabRangoon wrote
2992 root 1.432 >
2993 root 1.388 > > Meine Großmutter hat einen kleinen Hinterhof und sie benutzt selten die
2994 root 1.293 > > Dusche. Bei vielen Gelegenheiten habe ich mehr als 4
2995 root 1.388 > > Lebensmittelgeschäftspeicher-Versorgungsmaterialien Sellerie an einem
2996     > > einzelnen Tag verbraucht. Würde es irgendein Benzin unter meiner Couch
2997     > > geben, wenn ich meine Hose bügelte?
2998 root 1.432 >
2999     > What does your granny's tiny ass have to do with this group? Other than the
3000 root 1.293 > smell attracting flies of course...
3001 root 1.432 >
3002 root 1.293 I figured a little non-native tongued nonsense would help keep this
3003     request near the top of the group. thanks for playing along.
3004 root 1.388 cheers and Haben Sie eine glückliche Karotte
3005 root 1.387 %
3006 root 1.432 00:24 <elmex> ich bin ja nur ein dummer niedersachse, der kaum was in der schule hatte
3007 root 1.387 %
3008 root 1.291 War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. -Ambrose Bierce
3009 root 1.387 %
3010 root 1.290 98% of the time I am right. Why worry about the other 3%.
3011 root 1.387 %
3012 root 1.289 [Bertram van Munster, Jerry Bruckheimers partner, interviewed in the BBC
3013     show "Correspondent"]
3014 root 1.288
3015     [...] I do reality television, and I've done this for many many many
3016     years, long before even anybody knew what reality was.
3017    
3018     [so know we know who creates reality now]
3019     %
3020 root 1.287 [from wordnet]
3021     cock sucking, blowjob
3022     => fellatio, fellation
3023     => oral sex, head
3024     => perversion, sexual perversion
3025     => sexual activity, sexual practice, sex, sex activity
3026     => bodily process, body process, bodily function, activity
3027     => organic process, biological process
3028     => process
3029     => phenomenon
3030 root 1.387 %
3031 root 1.286 10:41 <oesi> [0]--(10:40:39)-(root@km)-(~/xxml)-> file tmon.out
3032     10:41 <oesi> tmon.out: ASCII Java program text
3033 root 1.387 %
3034 root 1.285 [SSK@J3GtFnEi8b~ko6mGvvXdrQoZ3D4PAgM,hhWspr43hLbvnrlkwxtDLg/ABC_NoJail/2//]
3035     [slightly edited]
3036     Largest prison population in the world is in the United States of America
3037     (in 2000: 2,071,686 persons, 22% of world prison population), it has more
3038     than double the prison population of Russia or China. What that means is
3039     that in USA 1 out of 143 residents are incarcerated.
3040    
3041     About 88% of USA prison population is male, but female population is
3042     sharply on the rise, and might soon reach that of males, due mostly to new
3043     laws on terrorism and drugs.
3044    
3045     Out of all the black males between 20 and 39, 12% are in custody (anybody
3046     told them about emancipation proclamation?).
3047 root 1.387 %
3048 root 1.284 "Begehe nur nicht den Fehler, Meinung durch Sachverstand zu substituieren."
3049     (PLemken, <bu6o7e$e6v0p$2@ID-31.news.uni-berlin.de>)
3050 root 1.387 %
3051 root 1.283 Mail::Box - 700MB of RSS to open a 30MB mail folder, one half of the
3052 root 1.282 advertised features doesn't work, while the other half is just buggy.
3053 root 1.387 %
3054 root 1.281 A ship is safe in harbor, but that is not what ships are built for.
3055 root 1.432 I learned that some cops lie. This was a brutal and profoundly disturbing
3056     realization: Those in control are not necessarily trustworthy.
3057 root 1.281 - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
3058 root 1.387 %
3059 root 1.279 "parrot - from the people who brought you ithreads"
3060     - oesi
3061 root 1.387 %
3062 root 1.278 [US, Metric]
3063     http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/usmetric.html
3064 root 1.387 %
3065 root 1.432 [http://use.perl.org/~scrottie/journal]
3066 root 1.277 [I agree with that very much, most of his blog is really interesting]
3067 root 1.275 Sunday February 20, 2005 07:18 AM
3068     Minions Wanted [ 0 Comments | #23269 ]
3069    
3070     It's been about 10 years since I've had minions. They've all grown up,
3071     started painfully profitable companies, and now hob-knob whose-who of
3072     important and influential figures of their field. I'm growing old and
3073     increasinly mal-adapted to normal life. It's no longer becoming for me
3074     to leave my lair nor speak on the phone. I've reflected on making this
3075     post, and I've reflected at great length. Minions aren't what they used
3076     to be. Minions now days are soft and weak willed. In the old days, it was
3077     that minions would realize they can wield power if they're willing to
3078     spend a time subserviant to someone capable of teaching. Now days, kids
3079     have this notion that money only comes from the parents, power comes from
3080     your social (gag) circles, and glory comes from the things you own. They
3081     seek answers to Perl questions only for immediate gradification, not to
3082     truly master an insidious tactic and become a potent force. Kids now
3083     days, not nearly robust enough to be considered minion material. They,for
3084     their entire life, questioninglessly slide into being slaves of much
3085     more powerful overlords. They accept as payment for their servatude a
3086     few measily tens of thousands of dollars, and then only paid in payments
3087     yearly, calling that close enough to world domination, and inexchange
3088     for that paultry fee, deliver one after another innocent to the hands of
3089     Bill Gates, telling the clients they betray that Microsoft Windows is a
3090     servicable operating system and a supportable platform. While it is truly
3091     becoming to serve on the side of Microsoft, it is also well known the
3092     ranks are thin at the top but wide at the bottom, and few ever move past
3093     petty explotation of businesses and moronic home users.
3094    
3095     This is not the stock I seek. These so short-sightedly driven by greed,
3096     rather than lusting for true power, amount to little more than orcs - a
3097     fodder of little use except as "consumers" in this modern age. It is far
3098     more becoming to hope to some day aspire to be an overlord of some small
3099     repute yourself and initially forego payment.
3100    
3101     Minions in my service will be expected to endure maindane business-related
3102     tasks, such as answering the phone, but will always be allowed the
3103     basic dignity of being able to tell clients to "fuck off" when
3104     appropriate. Retaining dignity does not relieve the necessities of
3105     subordination, however. My minions may seek clarification but will never
3106     question me. For the term of their indenture, they will accept my teaching
3107     as truth itself. They will not seek short-cuts where I say there are none,
3108     and if I later reveal short-cuts, they will know it was because they were
3109     not yet ready before. While my young troglodytes will doubtless enterain
3110     perversion and drug abuse in their free time, they will go for the want of
3111     the very necessities of life should urgant cause arise.
3112    
3113     In exchange, they will be tutored on the basic elements of evil and Perl
3114     programming and will share in the spoils of an insideous plot I've hatched
3115     some time ago to dupe large numbers of people out of money by playing on
3116     their greed and fear. Of course, in the interest of avoiding indictment
3117     myself, the details of the plot can never be revealed, but a clever
3118     student will quickly ascertain the nature of the ploy. After thier period
3119     of endenture, minions will have developed an eye for exploitation and
3120     trickery, but most importantly will have developed a deeper understanding
3121     of how things work - both in Perl and in the real world. They will see
3122     everything about them as quite potentially theirs - no program must go
3123     unwritten, and persuent to Free Trade Agreements, they will be as a
3124     sovereign nation.
3125    
3126     While the offer is valid, this is a draft for a post on
3127     jobs.perl.org. Feedback is welcome - unless you're stupid, then stay the
3128     hell off my blog. Time and time again I forget both the power of TV to
3129     sap intelligence and the very prevelence of the thing. So let this be a
3130     test: if you watch more than half an hour a day of any programming besides
3131     CSPAN, don't post here.
3132    
3133     -scott
3134 root 1.387 %
3135 root 1.274 But Mike Loughlin, who studied the boiling of lobsters when he was a
3136     University of Maine graduate student, said lobsters simply lack the brain
3137     capacity to feel pain.
3138    
3139     "It's a semantic thing: No brain, no pain," said Loughlin, who now works
3140     as a biologist at the Maine Atlantic Salmon Commission.
3141 root 1.387 %
3142 root 1.273 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp contextual F1 help & Crimson Editor in Windows
3143     From: Sven Neumann
3144    
3145     Hi,
3146    
3147 root 1.388 Rubén de Diego Martínez writes:
3148 root 1.432 > I also think that it's a bug. How may I report-it?
3149 root 1.273
3150     Go to http://support.microsoft.com/support/feedback/ and tell them
3151     that
3152    
3153     ShellExecute (HWND_DESKTOP, "open", uri, NULL, NULL, SW_SHOWNORMAL);
3154    
3155     does not do what you would expect it to do.
3156 root 1.387 %
3157 root 1.271 http://www.syslog.com/~jwilson/pics-i-like/kurios119.jpg
3158 root 1.272 the original comment says:
3159     This is probably part of an elaborate IQ test.
3160     Waiting at the gate means you fail.
3161 root 1.387 %
3162 root 1.271 {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} ich mir eine kolaflasche reingeschioebn
3163     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und dann ist meine klitoris erissen
3164     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und ich musste ins krankenhaus
3165     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} oh sorry, falsches fenster
3166     {Flat eric:Net-Knuddels} aja
3167     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} hi :)
3168 root 1.387 %
3169 root 1.275 [Java, like Delphi, requires manual destruction. Obvious, but still
3170 root 1.270 interesting read]
3171     http://www.octopull.demon.co.uk/java/ImmortalityAtaPrice.html
3172 root 1.387 %
3173 root 1.269 [Obscure Algorithms, just for my reference]
3174     http://aggregate.org/MAGIC/
3175     http://www.hackersdelight.org/HDcode.htm
3176 root 1.387 %
3177 root 1.268 In Los Angeles, the "HOLLYWOOD" sign is protected by a fence and a locked
3178     gate. Because several different agencies need access to the sign for
3179     various purposes, the chain locking the gate is formed by several locks
3180     linked together. Each of the agencies has the key to its own lock, and not
3181     the key to any of the others. Of course, anyone who can open one of the
3182     locks can open the gate.
3183    
3184     This is a nice example of a multiple-user access-control system. It's
3185     simple, and it works. You can also make it as complicated as you want,
3186     with different locks in parallel and in series.
3187 root 1.387 %
3188 root 1.267 http://www.crypto.com/papers/safelocks.pdf
3189     Safecracking for the computer scientist
3190 root 1.387 %
3191 root 1.265 Fact: Something that you observe to be true.
3192    
3193     Fact #1: when you drop a hammer, it falls to the ground
3194    
3195     Fact #2: a genetic sequence can change sufficiently to form a new
3196     species. Speciation has been observed more than once in the laboratory
3197     and in the wild, so this is a fact. Since we call this process
3198     'evolution', that means evolution is a fact. Keep reading for more
3199     explanation of this.
3200    
3201     Theory: An explanation of an observation
3202    
3203     Theory #1: The theory of gravity is understood as a curvature in space,
3204     which explains why the hammer falls.
3205    
3206     Theory #2: The Theory of Evolution through Natural Selection explains
3207     how a population's genome can change over time.
3208    
3209 root 1.266 Law: Not really related to any of the other definitions. It's just a
3210     mathematical relationship between two values.
3211 root 1.265
3212     Law #1: If you double the distance from a source of light, the
3213     brightness falls off proportionally to the square of the distance.
3214    
3215     Law #2: (expressed as a formula) F=ma. Force equals mass times
3216     acceleration.
3217    
3218     Please note that Evolution is a fact, and the theory is called the Theory
3219     of Evolution through Natural Selection. There are other theories of
3220     evolution, which have been disproved. A famous one is the theory of
3221     evolution through acquired characteristics, also known as Lamarkian
3222     evolution. It posited that species evolve by acquiring and retaining
3223     useful characteristics through use. Therefore, a giraffe would have
3224     longer necks if the previous generations stretched their necks to reach
3225     high leaves. This was the main theory that Darwin and others showed to be
3226     false.
3227    
3228     [by Profane MuthaFucka (574406)]
3229 root 1.387 %
3230 root 1.388 [Aus: Psychologie heute, 10/2003, über einen Artikel von Rentfrow/Gosling,
3231 root 1.264 Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 6/2003]
3232    
3233     Fans von reflexiven und komplexen Musikstilen wie Klassik, Blues, Jazz und
3234     Folk sind offen, tolerant und machen gerne neue Erfahrungen. Sie halten
3235 root 1.388 sich für intelligent - und sind es auch. Außerdem können sie gut mit
3236     Worten umgehen, schätzen das schöne. haben eine starke Vorstellungskraft
3237     und sind politisch liberal eingestellt. Sie sind häufig etwas unsportlich
3238 root 1.264 und wollen andere nicht dominieren.
3239    
3240 root 1.388 Anhänger von intensiven und rebellischen Musikrichtungen wie Heavy Metal,
3241     Rock und alternativer Musik sind offen für Experimente. Sie halten sich
3242     außerdem für intelligent, eloquent und sportlich. Obwohl die Musik, die
3243     sie bevorzugen, vorwiegend negatives ausdrückt, scheint dies nicht auf
3244     sie abzufärben: Sie sind weder neurotischer noch unverträglicher als die
3245     Fans anderer Musikrichtungen. Darüber hinaus sind sie wissensdurstig,
3246     risikobereit und körperlich aktiv.
3247 root 1.264
3248     Beschwingt und konventionell. So bezeichnen Rentfrow und Gosling
3249 root 1.388 Popsongs und Schmusehits, Countrymusik, Filmmusik und religiöse Musik
3250     (Spirituals, Gospels, Kirchenlieder). Wer diese Musik gerne hört, ist ein
3251     umgänglicher Zeitgenosse: Er geht gern aus sich heraus, ist verträglich,
3252     fröhlich, zuverlässig, hilfsbereit und gewissenhaft. Seine Einstellungen
3253 root 1.264 sind eher konservativ, Beredesamkeit und Offenheit sind nicht seine
3254 root 1.388 Stärken. Dafür hält er sich aber für attraktiv und vor allem für
3255 root 1.264 sportlich.
3256    
3257 root 1.388 Wer sich für energetische und rhythmische Musik begeistern kann (Rap,
3258     Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, Electronica) trägt sein Herz auf der Zunge. Er
3259     ist umgänglich, quirlig, liberal eingestellt, extravertiert und ein
3260     wenig eitel: Er hält sich für attraktiv und sportlich. Konservatives
3261     Gedankengut und Dominanz über andere liegen ihm hingegen fern.
3262 root 1.264
3263 root 1.388 Die besten verbalen Fähigkeiten haben die Angehörigen der ersten beiden
3264 root 1.264 Gruppen. Am wenigsten beredt ist die dritte Gruppe. An analytischem
3265 root 1.388 Verstand mangelt es vor allen den Musikhörern der vierten Gruppe.
3266     während die erste Gruppe, gefolgt von der zweiten, am meisten davon
3267 root 1.264 vorzuweisen hat.
3268    
3269     "Die intelligenteste Gruppe bevorzugt die komplexeste Musik", sagen die
3270     Forscher.
3271 root 1.387 %
3272 root 1.263 [Very well-written article on the legal foundazion of licensing, and
3273     the extreme difference in what a free software license does vs. a
3274     EULA-style license]
3275 root 1.262 http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/cores/2005/01/001453
3276 root 1.387 %
3277 root 1.261 The Pirate Bay is a BitTorrent tracking site in Sweden with 150,000 users
3278     a day. In the fall, it posted a torrent for Shrek 2. Dreamworks sent a
3279     cease-and-desist letter demanding the site remove it. One of the site's
3280     pseudonymous owners, Anakata, replied: "As you may or may not be aware,
3281     Sweden is not a state in the United States of America. Sweden is a country
3282     in northern Europe [and] US law does not apply here. ... It is the opinion
3283     of us and our lawyers that you are fucking morons." Shrek 2 stayed up.
3284 root 1.387 %
3285 root 1.260 Java is, in many ways, C++--. (Michael Feldman)
3286 root 1.387 %
3287 root 1.259 [Happy New Year]
3288     23:42 -!- zaphod [jkneer@fatboy.laendle] has quit [Quit: Hochhaus]
3289     Day changed to 01 Jan 2005
3290     00:24 <schmorp> re
3291 root 1.387 %
3292 root 1.258 [http://www.calsky.com/lexikon/de/txt/f/fe/fehlschluss.php]
3293 root 1.388 Im besten Fall kann die Verknüpfung zweier Tatsachen Verdachtsmomente
3294     liefern, die mit wissenschaftlichen Methoden abgeklärt werden
3295 root 1.258 sollen. Was eine wissenschaftliche Methode ist, ist Gegenstand anderer
3296     wissenschaftlicher Untersuchungen.
3297 root 1.387 %
3298 root 1.257 [funny page(s), although I think it's sad that people trying to "debunk"
3299     bad science theories are prone to the same logical fallacies as the
3300     proponents of such theories.]
3301     http://www.xs4all.nl/~mke/Planet-X.htm
3302     "On the Internet, there's a picture circulating that's supposedly `secret
3303     evidence' from Russia, proving Planet X is an inhabited world. The makers
3304     took the original photo (top left), enlarged it, and upgraded it with
3305     `solarize' and `find edges'. And look... Suddenly, you see all kinds of
3306     spaceships orbiting the planet! (top right) I followed exactly the same
3307     procedure, using a photo of one Robert Bridson, math student at Stanford
3308     University (below, left). After enlarging and solarizing the photograph,
3309     it became clear that mr. Bridsons left ear actually is inhabited by
3310     intelligent beings, since there clearly is a spaceship taking off from it
3311     (below, right)."
3312 root 1.387 %
3313 root 1.256 [wonderful info...]
3314     http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/
3315     [useful info...]
3316     http://www.snopes.com/
3317 root 1.387 %
3318 root 1.253 Computer analyst to programmer:
3319     "You start coding. I'll go find out what they want."
3320 root 1.387 %
3321 root 1.252 [Fun!]
3322     http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
3323 root 1.387 %
3324 root 1.388 [Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 11/2004, über Informationstransport im All]
3325 root 1.251 "Wenn unsere Vettern im Kosmos wirklich intelligent sind, werden ihre
3326     Computer sicher nicht mit Microsoft-Betriebssystemen ausgestattet sein."
3327 root 1.387 %
3328 root 1.250 [in our continued series, "solaris source code", today, /bin/true]
3329     ddev5:~$ cat /bin/true
3330     #!/usr/bin/sh
3331     # Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
3332     # All Rights Reserved
3333    
3334     # THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
3335     # The copyright notice above does not evidence any
3336     # actual or intended publication of such source code.
3337    
3338     #ident "@(#)true.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.4 */
3339 root 1.432 ddev5:~$
3340 root 1.387 %
3341 root 1.249 22:07 <elmex> schmorp: naja, es beweist das das konzept von java nicht funktioniert
3342     22:07 <schmorp> elmex: welches konzept?
3343     22:07 <elmex> das "hack dir die beine ab, und lauf nen marathon"-konzept ;)
3344 root 1.387 %
3345 root 1.248 [Gtk2/Makefile.PL]
3346     # win32 does not allow unresolved symbols in libraries, but
3347     # Gtk2 uses on symbols in the dll created for Glib.
3348     # so, we have to break all this nice abstraction and encapsulation
3349     # and find the actual Glib.dll and Glib.lib installed by perl when
3350     # the Glib module was built, and add it to the list of lib files.
3351     #
3352     # say it with me: "i hate win32."
3353 root 1.387 %
3354 root 1.388 Immerhin meint die Filmförderungsanstalt, im Jahr 2002 seien 59
3355 root 1.247 Millionen CD-Rohlinge von 5,9 Millionen Nutzern mit Filmen bespielt
3356     worden, im Durchschnitt also zwo:lf Rohlinge pro Anwender.
3357     -- <http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/see-08.04.03-000/>
3358 root 1.387 %
3359 root 1.246 http://otierney.net/images/perl6.gif
3360 root 1.387 %
3361 root 1.245 [http://www.kinderschaender.de/begriff.htm]
3362 root 1.388 Das einzige, was die Seite wirklich gezeigt hat, ist, daß es kaum Menschen
3363     gibt, die weiter denken als ein Schwein scheißt.
3364 root 1.387 %
3365 root 1.244 http://www.paulgraham.com/fix.html
3366     [I'd say ALL the essays on http://www.paulgraham.com/articles.html
3367     are readable, and in most cases I wholeheartedly agree with them.]
3368 root 1.387 %
3369 root 1.243 http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/security_report_windows_vs_linux/
3370 root 1.387 %
3371 root 1.243 [From: CRYPTO-GRAM]
3372     Bill Gates points out that all those IE security holes have not been
3373     Microsoft's fault. (The first step towards recovery is recognizing
3374     that you have a problem.)
3375     <http://slashdot.org/articles/04/10/15/015239.shtml?tid=109&tid=1>
3376 root 1.387 %
3377 root 1.242 [top output on redhat9, with one real-time priority process]
3378     PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME CPU COMMAND
3379 root 1.247 25788 root 18446744073709551565 0 10076 9.8M 2816 S 0.9 1.9 0:01
3380 root 1.242 26064 root 21 0 1508 1508 1184 S 0.3 0.2 0:00 0 curl
3381    
3382     [I am continually amazed at how redhat is able to break utilities that worked
3383     and work on other distributions without flaws again and again and again...]
3384 root 1.387 %
3385 root 1.241 That depends. There is C++ and there is C++. There are many different
3386     sorts of C++, I'll talk about 2 of them:
3387    
3388     Category 1 code is 'C with classes and on-the-fly variable
3389     declarations'. It uses macros, bad encapsulation, no const-correctness,
3390     etc. Category 1 code tends to either use object oriented programing
3391     exclusively, or use it combined with procedural programming. Other
3392     programming paradigms are extremely rare. It often uses non-portable hacks
3393     because Standard-knowledge is scarce among category 1 coders. Category 1
3394     code is seen mostly in Flipcode and Gamedev.net articles and forums. Also
3395     it is seen in almost every API ever developed by Microsoft. A slightly
3396     less bad version of category 1 code is seen in libraries that call
3397     themselves "high-quality C++ libraries" but that don't even use a single
3398     namespace and rely heavily on macros and other unsafe preprocessing
3399     techniques where this is totally unnecessary. Most of those libraries are
3400     that way because they were started before the 1998 C++ Standard's stuff
3401     got implemented in main-stream compilers.
3402    
3403     Category 2 code is what I'd like to see as the meaning of the term
3404     "C++ code". It is Standard-compliant, uses multiple programming
3405     paradigms and is pushing the language to the max (and beyond ;) to
3406     create easy to use, efficient, highly-reusable and easy to extend
3407     programs/libraries/modules/etc. Unfortunately, category 2 code is
3408     hard to write when you have to work with incompetent compilers like
3409     MSVC6/7. Category 2 code is mostly seen in:
3410 root 1.387 %
3411 root 1.240 [On "Main Loop with Fixed Time Steps", a Windows programmer commented:]
3412 root 1.239
3413     Just to point out, With a tick being a maximum of FFFFFFFFh, you *only*
3414     have about 49 days of tick time since the system has started! Though I
3415     doubt any game or even system runs for that long.
3416 root 1.387 %
3417 root 1.238 [http://www.paulgraham.com/popular.html]
3418     "The best writing is rewriting," wrote E. B. White. Every good writer
3419     knows this, and it's true for software too.
3420 root 1.387 %
3421 root 1.237 > think it needs the Ultimate Refactor..."rm -rf programs/Xserver/GL"
3422    
3423     ... and I was told "rm -rf" means "read mail, really fast!"
3424     ;)
3425 root 1.387 %
3426 root 1.235 [this is not a blogggggg]
3427     One fine day, I removed the "video=matrox:off" from my kernel commandline,
3428     having removed the matrox card from my machine months ago. Promptly, the
3429     proprietary nvidia driver greeted me with:
3430    
3431     NVIDIA: Failed to map framebuffer memors
3432    
3433 root 1.236 Adding the video option back made it work again. No, I do not have any
3434     framebuffer devices compiled into the kernel, either...
3435 root 1.387 %
3436 root 1.234 [taken out of a public mail by a journalist... I have never seen anybody
3437     using so many abbreviations...]
3438    
3439     Hi Volker -
3440    
3441     alles klar ..!? Bin mit dem Buch i. Stretch .. Lektorat / Korrektorat
3442 root 1.388 Architekturbuch ... wie üblich, kennst das ja wahrsch. auch ... alles zu
3443     spät ...
3444 root 1.234
3445     Dann gehts direktemang in die Ferien (2 Wochen Gomera ab komm. SA ...)
3446    
3447     Ja, und dann find ich doch Volker ganz Massiv im Briefkasten a. SA ..
3448    
3449 root 1.388 schönes Foto von dir ... 1 Seite .. 2 seiten Interview, m. Fortsetzung im
3450     nächsten Heft ..!!! (äusserst rar b. nem Interview ...)
3451 root 1.234
3452 root 1.388 herzliche Grüsse
3453 root 1.234
3454     tom
3455 root 1.247
3456 root 1.234 PS: Mein Wissenschtf.Kollege und Filmemacher ist der Meinung, dass das Thema
3457 root 1.388 'Copyrights, Commons, Freedom' etc ...spannend wäre, aber schlecht fürs TV
3458 root 1.234 ... Du kannst prakt. nichts mehr themat. Anspruchsvolles machen ... auch b.
3459 root 1.388 Arte war irgend nen Problem (fällt mir auf d. Schnelle nicht mehr ein ...
3460 root 1.234 schon ein paar Wochen her ...)
3461 root 1.387 %
3462 root 1.233 From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
3463     Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4
3464     Message-ID: <20040826183838.GE2793@holomorphy.com>
3465    
3466     On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 02:02:29AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
3467 root 1.247 > How old are you? I thought you were the guy at Linux Tag with fashion
3468     > oriented hair who gave a talk on his XFS work? Did I confuse you with
3469 root 1.233 > someone else?
3470    
3471     Index: mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS
3472     ===================================================================
3473     --- mm1-2.6.9-rc1.orig/CREDITS 2004-08-26 10:37:57.424567967 -0700
3474     +++ mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS 2004-08-26 11:35:24.977260109 -0700
3475     @@ -2677,6 +2677,14 @@
3476     S: 79098 Freiburg
3477     S: Germany
3478    
3479     +N: Hans Reiser
3480     +E: reiser@namesys.com
3481     +W: http://www.namesys.com/
3482     +D: official Linux kernel hairstyle critic
3483     +S: 6979 Exeter Dr
3484     +S: Oakland, CA 94611
3485     +S: USA
3486     +
3487     N: Joerg Reuter
3488     E: jreuter@yaina.de
3489     W: http://yaina.de/jreuter/
3490 root 1.387 %
3491 root 1.232 Partial lynx-output for mail sent by "T-Online Vertragsbrief":
3492     [poeppel_magenta.gif]
3493 root 1.387 %
3494 root 1.231 [http://www.dark-skies.org/theproblems.html#security]
3495     Better ligthing does not affect crime rates
3496 root 1.387 %
3497 root 1.230 [http://www.immunitysec.com/downloads/tc0.pdf]
3498     Label: "Difficulty of owning Windows vs. Difficulty to make this graph"
3499 root 1.387 %
3500 root 1.229 [rxvt-unicode (mine! :) vs. gnome-terminal :)]
3501     [http://bugs.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137864]
3502     [...]
3503     Upgrading to major: the first person to fix this (fix = performance is
3504     within a factor of 2 of rxvt-unicode for all four of the tests here) gets
3505     $50 from me, or an expensive dinner + all the beer they can handle if they
3506     ever visit Sydney, Australia ;)
3507     [...]
3508     Tagging this critical+urgent. How dare I, you ask? Doubling the reward -
3509     $100 if this is fixed (see above) before September 1, 2004. $0 after that
3510     (and I'll return it to a normal bug ;) If anyone else wants to contribute
3511     to whoever ends up fixing this, please join in..
3512 root 1.387 %
3513 root 1.228 [SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301268,00.html]
3514     [SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301538,00.html]
3515     Dass die Flimmerkiste ein beliebiges "Nullmedium" sei, beklagen
3516     Kulturkritiker von jeher. Doch nun zeigt selbst ein unvoreingenommener
3517     Blick aufs TV-Programm: Die Quote ist heilig, das Niveau sinkt auf breiter
3518     Front - auch bei ARD und ZDF. Verdummt die Na
3519 root 1.387 %
3520 root 1.226 [SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM,ed-XX1sNy0yR7p~QMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/brainleak%202004-03-02.html]
3521 root 1.227 [...] Tech savvy people will be inclining towards clicking the cancel
3522     button by default whenever they are presented a question which they don't
3523     fully understand, or didn't expect to see. Regular computer users will
3524     be inclined to press the Ok button instead, because they fear that by
3525     clicking cancel they might be causing something they don't understand not
3526     to work, something that they probably won't be able to fix afterwards
3527     anyway. If a geek fucks up somehow, he'll know what to do to fix it
3528     anyway, so there's no harm done clicking cancel. [...]
3529 root 1.387 %
3530 root 1.223 [http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/00/10/marienbad.html]
3531     I once had a postmodern intertextual moment at a drugstore bookrack when I
3532 root 1.224 picked up a paperback with the following title: Bram Stoker's Dracula:
3533 root 1.223 A Novelization Based on the Original Screenplay.
3534 root 1.387 %
3535 root 1.222 [bts show 215647]
3536     [yes, the whole thing]
3537 root 1.387 %
3538 root 1.221 [bts show 254316]
3539 root 1.247 > > The problem is not in luit, it's not in XTerm, it's not even in termcap;
3540     > > it's in the morass of complexity that some mindless jerk who'll be first
3541     > > against the wall when the revolution comes standardised as ISO 2022.
3542 root 1.221 >
3543     > ( google suggests 2022 has many fans ;-)
3544    
3545     We'll use a larger wall.
3546 root 1.387 %
3547 root 1.220 [Maedhros35 about "Clockwork Orange" on IMDB]
3548     This is a movie I would not recommend even to my worst enemy. It is a
3549     horrible picture, containing too much random violence and rape committed
3550     by four no-goods in white pyjamas, than is good for anyone too watch.
3551    
3552     The only fun moment is when the main character, being brainwashed into a
3553     non-violent state of mind, is being bashed by his former friends.
3554    
3555     There may be some "hidden message" in this movie about society and blah,
3556     but the message (not too well brought) is completely drowned.
3557    
3558     It is not even a waste of your time, it is worse than that. Avoid at all
3559     cost.
3560     ["too much violence" but "the only fun moment".... What the...!?]
3561 root 1.387 %
3562 root 1.219 When searching on google for:
3563    
3564 root 1.225 kakerlake schabe made
3565 root 1.219
3566     Google asked me wether I instead wanted to look for:
3567    
3568 root 1.225 kakerlake _schwabe_ made
3569 root 1.387 %
3570 root 1.218 What we learned this week;
3571     "Hell is a bad place to be and renders with 8-12fps"
3572 root 1.387 %
3573 root 1.216 "Britain is one of only three countries in the world (the others are
3574     Germany and Egypt) enduring stricter censorship today than 25years ago"
3575 root 1.387 %
3576 root 1.215 [translated]
3577     23:07 <schmorp> libtool is soo broken
3578     23:07 <schmorp> ./libtool gcc-3.4 ...
3579     23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
3580     23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
3581     23:07 <schmorp> ...
3582     23:07 <schmorp> libtool --tag=ulubulu
3583     23:07 <schmorp> libtool: ignoring unknown tag ulubulu
3584     23:07 <schmorp> and it works
3585 root 1.387 %
3586 root 1.214 History does not repeat itself. Historians repeat each other.
3587     -- Lord Balfour
3588 root 1.387 %
3589 root 1.213 The whole of Mozilla is just one big focus bug.
3590 root 1.387 %
3591 root 1.212 <Beerman> When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then
3592     I realised that The Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked
3593     him to forgive me.
3594 root 1.387 %
3595 root 1.211 [slashdot]
3596     > there are currently no active, reliable ways to obtain the program listings for New Zealand television
3597    
3598     I have been to NZ. You have no television.
3599 root 1.387 %
3600 root 1.210 [IMDB user about "What?" by Roman Polanski]
3601     "What?" fills the gap for those who get a kick out of 70's porn plots, but
3602     get bored during the sex scenes.
3603 root 1.387 %
3604 root 1.209 I say to you that the VCR is to the ... American public as the Boston
3605     strangler is to the woman home alone.
3606     - Jack Valenti (CEO, MPAA)
3607 root 1.387 %
3608 root 1.208 [Bruce Schneier]
3609     SP2 is an important security upgrade to Windows XP, and I hope it is
3610     widely installed among licensed XP users. I also hope it is quickly
3611     pirated, so unlicensed XP users can also install it. In order for me
3612     to remain secure on the Internet, I need everyone to become more
3613     secure. And the more people who install SP2, the more we all benefit.
3614 root 1.387 %
3615 root 1.207 [From Paul Eggert]
3616     [...] Worse, HP-UX asctime rejects any tm_year that is negative; this
3617     violates the C standard, but HP won't take my bug reports since I'm not a
3618     HP-UX customer. [...]
3619 root 1.387 %
3620 root 1.206 >>>Just curious, If I recall correctly, didn't Forth used to be FORTH?
3621     >>
3622     >>Since FORTH is not an acronym (the way BASIC, LISP, FORTRAN and C are)
3623     >>but a (deliberate) misspelling of "fourth", when it became possible to
3624     >>use LC the fashion became to do so. My book, "Scientific FORTH" (1992)
3625     >>spelled it in UC.
3626 root 1.247 >
3627     >
3628 root 1.206 > BASIC, LISP and FORTRAN are acronyms. C isn't.
3629    
3630     C isn't all caps, just the initial letter.
3631 root 1.387 %
3632 root 1.205 [comp.lang.c]
3633     > According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language
3634    
3635     I'm sorry, but that's like quoting Bjarne Stroustrup on correct ISO C
3636     usage.
3637    
3638     Richard
3639 root 1.387 %
3640 root 1.204 I remember Elwyn Berlekamp describing what goes on at computer go
3641     tournaments (where computer programs play go against each other) - unlike
3642     at computer chess tournaments where the programs far surpass their
3643     creators, at go tournaments the creators sit there and look at a game in
3644     play and say things to each other like, "Gosh, I wonder if my program will
3645     repair that weakness before your program notices it."
3646 root 1.387 %
3647 root 1.203 21:40 <oesi> sansho: du bist kindisch. :)
3648     21:40 <sansho> oesi: das hab ich mir von dir abgeguckt
3649 root 1.387 %
3650 root 1.202 MarkD [-]: The trouble with political jokes is that some of them get elected
3651 root 1.387 %
3652 root 1.201 A coherent understanding of Philosophy will convince you that you are
3653     competent to understand the universe and achieve the human values that
3654     make life meaningful. You will know when you know something and when you
3655     don't, when you understand something and when you don't, and why. You
3656     will also realize why morality and ethics are too important to be left to
3657     anyone but yourself. You will learn that there are no shortcuts to truth,
3658     no authorities you can follow blindly, and perhaps most important, that
3659     nothing at all exists except reality. In sum, you will know what human
3660     existence means and implies.
3661    
3662     [Introduction to Philosophy, Joel Katz]
3663 root 1.387 %
3664 root 1.201 > > Casts from void* are necessary in C++, not in C.
3665     >
3666     > I am aware... I'm fishing for more info! Perhaps if I reposted again and
3667     > said you were wrong I'll get more...
3668     >
3669     > You're WRONG!
3670    
3671 root 1.388 void* is implicitly converted to the destination pointer type (C99 §6.3.2.3
3672     and §7.20.3.1).
3673 root 1.387 %
3674 root 1.200 From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu>
3675     In the DOS days, I had a scattering of students who really
3676     knew about computers. In the XP days, I have none.
3677 root 1.387 %
3678 root 1.199 [another variation, more useful]
3679     A. It should be obvious.
3680     Q. How is it hard?
3681     A. Because it makes it hard to follow conversations.
3682     Q. Why is top-posting bad?
3683 root 1.387 %
3684 root 1.198 [windows is a good place to learn programming]
3685     Subject: Linux c prog doesn't work on Sun Solaris Machine....?
3686    
3687     Compiled using g++ on linux and then I tried to execute it on Solaris.
3688     The error message was something like "can't execute a.out"
3689    
3690     - works ok on linux
3691     - ran chmod so Sun user has execute/read/etc permissions. chmod u=rwx
3692    
3693     Any clues why?
3694     I am new to the non windows world.
3695    
3696     Thanks
3697 root 1.387 %
3698 root 1.197 [comp.lang.c]
3699     > I want to write some data on the EEPROM of a PIC 16F877 microcontroller via
3700     > serial port rs232. What library can I use with a gcc compiler to perform
3701     > this ?
3702    
3703     This is not a C question. Please try asking again in comp.arch.embedded where
3704     we will advise you to use an 8051, AVR, or MSP430 instead of the PIC.
3705 root 1.387 %
3706 root 1.196 [comp.std.c]
3707     In message <c4k0mj$fmp$1@sunnews.cern.ch>
3708     Dan.Pop@cern.ch (Dan Pop) wrote:
3709    
3710     > In <nfa0k1-03l.ln1@jones.homeip.net> lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com writes:
3711 root 1.247 >
3712     > >The text of the standard only yields one reasonable interpretation.
3713     >
3714 root 1.196 > Yup, mine!
3715 root 1.387 %
3716 root 1.195 [links-2.1pre13 ChangeLog]
3717     Thu Oct 9 16:44:10 GMT 2003 mikulas:
3718    
3719     Do not print 1000l on FreeBSD console on exit
3720 root 1.387 %
3721 root 1.194 [an old question, revisited]
3722     http://www.style.org/unladenswallow/
3723 root 1.387 %
3724 root 1.194 [comp.lang.c]
3725 root 1.247 > can any one translate the following codes into c++ codes,
3726 root 1.194
3727     This is comp.lang.c. We do C, not C++. We do not translate C into
3728     obfuscated languages. The good news is that your code already _is_ C++.
3729 root 1.387 %
3730 root 1.194 [comp.lang.c]
3731     I didn't say he was incorrect. I said he was an idiot.
3732 root 1.387 %
3733 root 1.193 according to babelfish "glibber" in german means "more glibber" in english :-)
3734 root 1.387 %
3735 root 1.192 [Debian Bug #163625 features one of my favourite bug report subjects:]
3736     Installing additional mozilla Debian packages
3737 root 1.247 deletes additionally installed mozilla packages
3738 root 1.387 %
3739 root 1.388 [Aus einer Werbung für dne "Windows-Berater". Es ist erschreckend, zeigt
3740     aber, das manche Maßnahmen von Microsoft völlig irreführenderweise als
3741     Sicherheitsmaßnahme verstanden und dargestellt werden. Ich frage mich, wie
3742 root 1.190 DRM in Zukunft aufgenommen und beworben werden wird...]
3743    
3744 root 1.388 "Kaum angekündigt, schon ist der Registrierungsschutz geknackt"
3745 root 1.190
3746 root 1.388 Das neue Windows XP lässt sich nur mit einem besonderen Registrierungscode
3747 root 1.190 dauerhaft betreiben. Besorgt sich der Anwender diese Lizenz nicht,
3748     wird das System gesperrt. Damit sollen Raubkopien und unerlaubte
3749     Mehrfachnutzung verhindert werden. Kaum vorgestellt, knacken Hacker
3750 root 1.388 diese Verschlüsselung schon. Checklisten zeigen Ihnen, wie dieser Klau
3751     abläuft. Damit Sie sich und Ihr System vor ungebetenen Zugriffen und Viren
3752     schützen können.
3753 root 1.387 %
3754 root 1.189 [Reiner Gamma]
3755     http://www.geocities.com/kc5lei/SWIRL2001.htm
3756 root 1.387 %
3757 root 1.188 >> Asshole keep you shit out of alt.binaries.games.adult until you read
3758     [...]
3759 root 1.187 >Dude, thisi is not "alt.binaries.games.adult".
3760 root 1.188 [...]
3761 root 1.187 Yes, it is. Or, it was, till your post cut the crosspost. It was
3762     crossposted to several groups and the person you're replying to will
3763     never get your message.
3764 root 1.387 %
3765 root 1.186 [http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/doc/Details.html.pl]
3766     As this project will always run unknown binary code of proprietary W32
3767     filesystem drivers, the code can never be trusted.
3768 root 1.387 %
3769 root 1.185 [http://www.hello-penguin.com/gtm-perl/doc/Perl.html]
3770     (look at the BUGS section... very funny to read, btw., it's
3771     a sourceforge project called GT.M).
3772 root 1.387 %
3773 root 1.184 bigger things. We\\\\\\\'d be using C + asm and Hax
3774     01:15 <Sesse> we all the backslashes?
3775     01:15 <schmorp> no idea, i have these in some of my descriptions, too
3776     01:15 <schmorp> it seems that sourceofrge does " -> \" on every deascription change
3777     01:15 <Sesse> sounds like php
3778     01:15 <schmorp> i guess it's written in php
3779     01:15 <schmorp> *g*
3780     01:15 <Sesse> :-D
3781 root 1.387 %
3782 root 1.183 http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/
3783     [...] At the beginning I didn't expect that I would actually succeed,
3784     since I thought I would need almost half of that just for the headers. I
3785     think my first cut was 458 bytes in size. I was quite pleased with myself
3786     when I trimmed that down to less than 300 bytes, ecstatic when I finally
3787     reached the 255-byte goal, and downright triumphant when I later got it to
3788     work in 238 bytes. By the time I had a 198-byte version, I was just plain
3789     dumbfounded. It's now at 171 bytes. [...]
3790 root 1.387 %
3791 root 1.182 [http://www.mindspring.com/~kimall/Japanese/polite.html]
3792     [...] Americans didn't invent English (although the Brits will happily
3793     disown our mangled version of it! :-) ) [...]
3794 root 1.387 %
3795 root 1.181 [Eugene Spafford]
3796     During the heights of some of the recent viruses, I was discarding 30Mb of
3797     email per day -- all of it viruses. And I should point out -- viruses for
3798     Windows. There have been something like 100,000 viruses for MS operating
3799     systems, only about 50 for the Mac, and about 3 for commercial Unix
3800     systems. That difference isn't because of a difference in the prevalence
3801     of the machines -- there are basic architectural differences.
3802 root 1.387 %
3803 root 1.180 [http://MarginalHacks.com/]
3804     If you can't vi it, it sucks.
3805 root 1.387 %
3806 root 1.180 [from the somewhat outdated xterm-faq]
3807     GNOME TERMINAL
3808     [...]
3809     The documentation is fragmentary (with a comment suggesting that the
3810     author does not know where to find relevant information), and the program
3811     fares badly with vttest. [...] But it suffices for vi.
3812     [.. later]
3813     There is a variation of xvt (ancestor of rxvt) originally known as kvt
3814     bundled with KDE which may be referred to as "kterm", but I do not find it
3815     interesting, other than to comment that it was a poor choice of name.
3816 root 1.387 %
3817 root 1.179 [I *love* X programs]
3818     [xc/programs/xprop/xprop.c]
3819     /*
3820 root 1.247 * blip: a debugging routine. Prints Blip! on stderr with flushing.
3821 root 1.179 */
3822     void blip()
3823 root 1.247 {
3824 root 1.179 fflush(stdout);
3825     fprintf(stderr, "blip!\n");
3826     fflush(stderr);
3827 root 1.247 }
3828 root 1.387 %
3829 root 1.178 [pavel machek commenting on a proposed patch]
3830     + int alternative_order = 999;
3831    
3832     Why not 666? :-).
3833 root 1.387 %
3834 root 1.178 [yosh on gimp-developer]
3835     It's also better to research your suggestions a little, so that they don't
3836     sound completely out there, thereby reinforcing the viewpoint that Windows
3837     users are clueless.
3838 root 1.387 %
3839 root 1.177 [modularity makes unix systems more secure]
3840     http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/36029.html
3841 root 1.387 %
3842 root 1.176 [beware german translations]
3843     dpkg: Warnung - ignoriere Kollision, kann sowieso weitermachen!
3844 root 1.387 %
3845 root 1.175 [http://www.cypherspace.org/adam/hacks/lotus-nsa-key.html, look around there]
3846     NSA's Backdoor Key from Lotus-Notes
3847 root 1.387 %
3848 root 1.174 The word "ampersand" is an alteration of the phrase "et, per se and" (that
3849     is: "et by itself [means] and"), which became corrupted to "and, per se
3850     and", and finally, ampersand.
3851 root 1.387 %
3852 root 1.173 [xc/lib/X11/lcUTF8.c]
3853     [...] We distinguish three classes of clients: [1st] [...] [2nd] Clients
3854     which accept CompoundText with multiple character sets and parse it
3855     themselves. (Example: emacs, xemacs.) [3rd] [...] In a distant future,
3856     when clients of the first and second kind will have disappeared, [...]
3857 root 1.387 %
3858 root 1.171 [linux-2.6/drivers/md/Kconfig]
3859     WARNING: RAID-6 is currently highly experimental. If you
3860     use it, there is no guarantee whatsoever that it won't
3861     destroy your data, eat your disk drives, insult your mother,
3862     or re-appoint George W. Bush.
3863 root 1.387 %
3864 root 1.170 [http://www.herodios.com/herron_tc/atsign.html]
3865     Many Finnish terms for @ are connected with cats. Not content with naming
3866     the sign for what it looks like, Finnish names it for what it looks like
3867     sounds like. In addition to "kissanhnta [cat's tail], "miau," "miumau,"
3868     and "miuku" are all "miau merkki" [meow marks] in Finnish. Other terms
3869     from Finnish include "apinanhanta" [a monkey's tail], or "hiirenhanta"
3870     [mouse's tail]. Some "computer people" use the English word "at."
3871 root 1.387 %
3872 root 1.247 17:07 <oesi> schmorp: mal ein guter kommentar auf heise zum thema "Bill tourt durch
3873 root 1.388 die USA und kündigt innovative neuentwicklungen an"
3874     17:08 <oesi> Kommentar war: "was hat er angekündigt: drive-letter in unicode?"
3875 root 1.387 %
3876 root 1.168 [Ken Lunde about his copy of KS C 5657-1991:]
3877     Here's another interesting note. My official copy of this
3878     standard has all of its 2,856 hanja hand-written.
3879 root 1.387 %
3880 root 1.172 [cvs, while checking in changes to uunet's radiusd]
3881 root 1.168 confused about file platform.h -- ignoring
3882 root 1.387 %
3883 root 1.167 [http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/02/24/1011245.shtml]
3884 root 1.247 And most likely, the FBI didn't tell the hosting company exactly what it
3885     is they wanted. When the Feds come in with a search warrant, they don't
3886     ask for your help. They say, "stand aside" and commence
3887 root 1.167 %
3888 root 1.166 http://www.bash.org/?178890
3889 root 1.387 %
3890 root 1.165 [http://www.bash.org/?75016]
3891     <ig3l|Guel> If Osama B. isn't in Afghanistan, and if he isn't dead, we believe he is in another country" - US army General
3892 root 1.387 %
3893 root 1.247 00:56 <oesi> ulpfr: ich schrieb mal einen kompletten mailer in emacs, weil mir rmail
3894     nicht gefallen hat. man wird aelter und reifer und droppt dann emacs
3895 root 1.164 einfach :)
3896     00:56 <ulpfr> Weichei
3897 root 1.387 %
3898 root 1.163 [spca50x.sourceforge.net]
3899     /*
3900     * Function compares two strings.
3901 root 1.247 * Return offset in pussy where prick ends if "prick" may penetrate
3902 root 1.163 * int "pussy" like prick into pussy, -1 otherwise.
3903     */
3904     static inline int match(const char* prick, const char* pussy, int len2)
3905     {
3906     int len1 = strlen(prick); //length of male string
3907     [...]
3908 root 1.387 %
3909 root 1.163 http://www.leckse.net/profilieren/chat
3910 root 1.387 %
3911 root 1.388 rohw, schleymig und formlos Fleisch wie di Schleuch eines Tündenfischs
3912 root 1.387 %
3913 root 1.162 [rxvt-*/src/init.[cC]]
3914     /* grab colors before netscape does */
3915     Get_Colours ();
3916 root 1.387 %
3917 root 1.388 [oesi über apache-2.0]
3918 root 1.160 03:10 <oesi> ist mir egal, ich fahre alle 24h den apache runter...
3919     03:10 <oesi> ich fahre praktisch das 1.3er config-file. das gibt sicherheit :)
3920     03:11 <oesi> ich kann apache nicht stoppen.
3921     03:11 <oesi> apachectl stop
3922     03:11 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
3923     03:11 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
3924     03:12 <oesi> wie konnte ich den starten?
3925     03:12 <schmorp> *rofl*
3926 root 1.161 [...]
3927     03:29 <oesi> es ist kein scherz. wirklich:
3928     03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl sslstart
3929     03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl stop
3930     03:29 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
3931     03:29 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
3932 root 1.387 %
3933 root 1.159 [http://www.jmarshall.com/tools/cgiproxy/]
3934     [...] Here's a demo (username "free", password "speech") [...]
3935 root 1.387 %
3936 root 1.158 [rxvt/src/screen.C]
3937     #ifdef DEBUG_STRICT
3938 root 1.247 assert(screen.cur.row >= 0);
3939 root 1.158 #else /* drive with your eyes closed */
3940     MAX_IT(screen.cur.row, 0);
3941     #endif
3942 root 1.387 %
3943 root 1.157 [http://www.mine-control.com/zack/timesync/timesync.html]
3944     [...] Also, anecdotal evidence from network programmers suggests that the
3945     UDP implementation under Win32 is unstable and overly-unreliable. [...]
3946 root 1.387 %
3947 root 1.156 > > Ceterum censeo | PGP encrypted mail preferred.
3948     > > Redmond esse delendam. | PGP Key at www.MPA-Garching.MPG.de/~nog/
3949     >
3950     > Willkomme im Club .... :-)))
3951    
3952     Danke - ich bin schon lange dabei... ;-)
3953     --
3954     OpenVMS @ 25 | Martin Vorlaender | VMS & WNT programmer
3955 root 1.387 %
3956 root 1.388 Um die Jahrhundertwende erfand ein Mann namens Friedolin Tär einen
3957     IQ-Test, der die Gesamtpersönlichkeit sehr stark miteinbezog.
3958     Charakterstärke, Grosszügigkeit, flexibles Denken etc. wurden also
3959     mitbewertet. Die Skala mit der Maßeinheit "Tär" wies ein großes Spektrum
3960     auf. Ärzte, Wissenschaftler erreichen IQ's im Megatär-Bereich. Der
3961     Durchschnittsmensch weist einige Kilotär auf. Nach unten gibt es Dezitär,
3962     Centitär... und schießlich Mil(l)itär...
3963 root 1.387 %
3964 root 1.154 http://senseis.xmp.net/?GetStrongAtGote
3965     http://users.skynet.be/rexburton/ritchie.htm
3966 root 1.387 %
3967 root 1.153 Subject: [Swsusp-devel] 2.6.1: It could go faster if I didn't have egg on my face.
3968 root 1.387 %
3969 root 1.153 "It's not Hollywood. War is real, war is primarily not about defeat or
3970     victory, it is about death. I've seen thousands and thousands of dead
3971     bodies. Do you think I want to have an academic debate on this subject?"
3972     -- Robert Fisk
3973 root 1.387 %
3974 root 1.151 [the satellite death spiral: why spacecraft are unnecessarily expensive]
3975     http://www.dynacon.ca/pdf/files/newspdf_63.pdf
3976 root 1.152 [see also the small satellites homepage]
3977     http://centaur.sstl.co.uk/SSHP/
3978 root 1.387 %
3979 root 1.150 [http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/files/lec_lev.htm]
3980     "Anthropologists concur that America is an exceedingly 'low-touch,'
3981     high-violence culture"
3982     [...]
3983     "[...] Republican members of the House of Representatives called for the
3984     resignation of Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders, whose transgression was to
3985     suggest, in response to a question following a speech to sex educators,
3986     that masturbation was an appropriate subject for classroom discussion.
3987     This remark, according to one congressman, was part of a social movement
3988     that was "killing the moral fiber of America" and just one symptom of
3989     a decline also manifested in reckless driving, an indecisive military
3990     policy-dubbed "mission creep," and homosexuals in the Boy Scouts." [...]
3991    
3992     Masturbation is an absolute taboo in the US. Many adults still think that
3993     they are the only ones who do such dirty things.
3994 root 1.387 %
3995 root 1.150 From: <[...]@aol.com>
3996     Subject: Re: [...]
3997    
3998     Marc wrote on 1/7/2004, 6:57 AM:
3999    
4000     > Congrats. No kidding, you are the first person @aol that ever sent me a
4001     > sensible mail. I was planning to reject mail from aol.com right away
4002     > since (in the last 8 years at least), nothing good came from there, but you
4003     > saved it :)
4004    
4005     Yeah, I get that a lot, but you've got to know that .aol.com email
4006     addresses are also used by the people who work for AOL (cough, cough :).
4007     [...]
4008 root 1.387 %
4009 root 1.150 From: Alan Cox
4010     > The code to disable prefetch on Athlon is 300 bytes and hurts your PIV?
4011     > Really? I'll dig back through the code, but I recall it as adding or
4012     > deleting an entry in a table to enable prefetch. If it's affecting PIV the
4013     > code to use prefetch is seriously broken.
4014    
4015     Big time. Its over 300 bytes long because its embedded in each inline
4016     prefetch and it causes a branch misprediction almost every time. Amazing
4017     what you find when you actually measure stuff 8)
4018     [...]
4019 root 1.387 %
4020 root 1.150 http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4021 root 1.387 %
4022 root 1.150 http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4023 root 1.387 %
4024 root 1.150 http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4025 root 1.387 %
4026 root 1.149 [FYI: java was officially announced in 1995, and certainly didn't exist
4027     even as a concept before 1991. It's interesting how many people nowadays
4028     claim to have decades of java experience]
4029     On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:11:54AM -0500, Robert Soros <robert@soros.ca> wrote:
4030     > I am extremely excited about your ideas to fix freenet and would be
4031     > willing to plug your code into fred (I have fourteen years java
4032     > programming experience.) Could you provide a link to your code? What
4033 root 1.387 %
4034 root 1.149 http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4035 root 1.387 %
4036 root 1.149 http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4037 root 1.387 %
4038 root 1.149 http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4039 root 1.387 %
4040 root 1.147 [in a private discussion about some potential problem that would cause]
4041     [mail not to be delivered]
4042     > > On the other hand, I see the same in some mail from RMS.
4043 root 1.247 >
4044 root 1.147 > Well, just because rms does it does not mean... :)
4045    
4046     My point is that the FSF is unlikely to install something that
4047     bounces RMS's mail, at least, not for long.
4048 root 1.387 %
4049 root 1.147 On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Piers Cawley wrote:
4050    
4051     > David Cantrell <david@cantrell.org.uk> writes:
4052     >
4053     > > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 11:16:52AM -0500, Tommie M. Jones wrote:
4054     > >> Anyone know of any perl software that does resume parsing.
4055     > >
4056     > > I don't *think* anyone has implemented continuations in perl, so I fail
4057     > > to see how you can have resumes. Or are you trying to parse some other
4058     > > language which does support this?
4059     >
4060    
4061     Just because we share a language does not mean we understand each other.
4062    
4063     In America there are two meanings for resume. One being to continue the
4064     other the equivalent of what ya'll call a CV (I think though I've never
4065     heard the term before) In the second definition resume is pronounced with
4066     a short u. I think there is a "`" in the proper spelling of the word but
4067     since Americans are not use to using punctuation in their words (other
4068     than to show ownership and contractions) it is usually loss.
4069 root 1.387 %
4070 root 1.147 echo $package has manual pages available in source form.
4071     echo "However, you don't have nroff, so they're probably useless to you."
4072     --Larry Wall in Configure from the perl distribution
4073 root 1.387 %
4074 root 1.146 AFTER 30 years of "daylight saving" - moving the clocks forward in the
4075     spring and then back again in the autumn - there is still an Abolish
4076     Daylight Saving Committee in New South Wales, Australia.
4077    
4078     Added to the usual claims of such campaigns - for example, that the
4079     extra hour of daylight in the evening in summer fades the curtains - is
4080     a new one from ADSC spokeswoman Judith Hall, of Gunnedah, who told the
4081     Sydney Morning Herald: "No man has the right to choose the time of the
4082     rising and setting of the sun, only God."
4083    
4084     Reader John McCallum, who told us about this, is surprised Hall doesn't
4085     explain why God doesn't simply exercise this choice. When people insist
4086     on moving their clocks forward, He should just move the sunrise forward
4087     and thwart them that way.
4088 root 1.387 %
4089 root 1.146 [Defect Report #205 to ISO-C]
4090     There was a unanimous vote that the feature is ugly, and a good consensus
4091     that its incorporation into the standard at the 11th hour was an
4092     unfortunate decision.
4093 root 1.387 %
4094 root 1.247 02:23 <oesi> Breaking News: SCO stellt per Wahrsager Codeklau in HURD in einem Jahr
4095 root 1.146 fest ;)
4096 root 1.387 %
4097 root 1.146 [http://www.unicode.org/standard/WhatIsUnicode.html]
4098    
4099     Last updated: - Invalid Date
4100 root 1.387 %
4101 root 1.146 http://www.bash.org/?99060
4102 root 1.387 %
4103 root 1.145 [IZ-Buzzword-Bullshit-Bingo]
4104     http://www.l13.de/it/ibbb.html
4105 root 1.387 %
4106 root 1.144 Q: What is the state of the object after its lifetime has ended?
4107    
4108     A: As a well-known software guru[3] once put it, speaking about a
4109     similar code fragment and anthropomorphically referring to the
4110     local object as a "he":
4111    
4112     "He's not pining! He's passed on! This parrot is no more! He
4113     has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker!
4114     He's a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn't
4115     nailed him to the perch he'd be pushing up the daisies! His
4116     metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's
4117     kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down
4118     the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible! THIS IS AN
4119     EX-PARROT!"
4120    
4121     - Dr. M. Python, BMath, MASc, PhD (CompSci)
4122 root 1.387 %
4123 root 1.144 [ach du schande]
4124     "pflichtpfandfrei"
4125 root 1.387 %
4126 root 1.142 [a comment on the demonstrations against bush in london]
4127     The police will shoot you.
4128    
4129     OK, that's not strictly true. The CIA will shoot you. Then the police will
4130     arrest the CIA. Then American troops will invade.
4131    
4132 root 1.247 Just another average day in central London.
4133 root 1.387 %
4134 root 1.141 [this signature gave me a laugh...]
4135     [...]even better is if there is a system function that sends out an arp
4136     reply.
4137    
4138     pls. cc my email address
4139    
4140     tia
4141     pd
4142    
4143    
4144 root 1.247 --
4145 root 1.141 ^X^C
4146     q
4147     quit
4148     :q
4149     ^C
4150     end
4151     x
4152     exit
4153     ZZ
4154     ^D
4155     ?
4156     help
4157     shit
4158     .
4159 root 1.387 %
4160 root 1.140 * muppet also hates bloatus notes. it doesn't need vnc to make it slow.
4161 root 1.387 %
4162 root 1.140 [From the File::Spec manpage on catdir]
4163     Concatenate two or more directory names to form a complete path ending
4164     with a directory. But remove the trailing slash from the resulting string,
4165     because it doesn't look good, isn't necessary and confuses OS2. [...]
4166 root 1.387 %
4167 root 1.140 [I love it]
4168     http://www.swindonweb.com/life/lifemagi0.htm
4169     http://www.armin-grewe.com/holiday/wiltshire/swindon-roundabout.htm
4170 root 1.387 %
4171 root 1.139 "I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they go by."
4172     - Douglas Adams
4173 root 1.387 %
4174 root 1.138 Bill Gates is repeating the mantra that users are to blame for insecure
4175     PCs, in an interview with a Canadian newspaper. This refrain is familiar
4176     to the INQUIRER: Gates said more or less the same thing when he addressed
4177     an Assembly of CEOs in Berlin a few weeks ago.
4178    
4179 root 1.247 The chief software architect (CSA.'.) told IT Business that perfect code
4180     wasn't the answer to security problems, but firewalls and keeping the
4181     software up to date were more important. The problems that have occurred
4182     this year wouldn't have happened if firms and individuals had set up
4183     their software properly.
4184 root 1.138
4185     He also claims in the article that Microsoft has always had security
4186     patches out before the exploits happened. Developers were also to blame
4187     because they didn't understand the application program interfaces, Gates
4188     told the publication.
4189    
4190 root 1.247 And he also claimed that all forms of Unix and Linux have a greater
4191     number of vulnerabilities than Microsoft but don't spread as much because
4192     "they're not as dense" as Windows. Low volume software is hit by
4193     malicious people, high volume software, that is Windows, is hit by people
4194     who want visibility and glory.
4195 root 1.387 %
4196 root 1.137 [In the FAQ for a bootp client:]
4197    
4198     o You are using --server to point to a server which doesn't run a bootp server
4199    
4200     x Try not using it.
4201 root 1.387 %
4202 root 1.136 [http://www.politicalpulpit.com/Luke/LukeArchive0403.htm]
4203     The facts are simple: In Lynn, MA Principal of the Lynn English High
4204     School, Andrew Fila refused to allow teacher of English, Jeremy McKeen,
4205     to show the disputed film in his classes. McKeen had already submitted
4206     Moore's opus to his Department Head, Jane Balesta, for approval which she
4207     had given.
4208    
4209     Said Fila, "I just pulled it. This is not the time nor the place to be
4210     showing something like that. The producer (Moore) is also an anti war
4211     person as well."
4212 root 1.387 %
4213 root 1.136 [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0254686/]
4214 root 1.388 "Ich habe keine Gefühle, merken sie sich das, Walter. Und wenn ich welche
4215     habe, werden sie nie über meine Intelligenz siegen".
4216 root 1.387 %
4217 root 1.388 ["Was ist ein Kopierschutz überhaupt?"]
4218 root 1.135 [http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,270719,00.html]
4219 root 1.134
4220     Damit entspricht Windows der Definition eines illegalen Tools zur Umgehung
4221 root 1.388 des Kopierschutzes und müsste vom Markt genommen werden.
4222 root 1.135 [...]
4223 root 1.134 Das Bundesjustizministerium ist der Auffassung, dass die Frage nur durch
4224 root 1.388 ein Gericht zu klären sei. Das Programm "Windows" kenne man zu wenig.
4225 root 1.135 [...]
4226     Handelt es sich bei Windows also rechtlich um das Abwehren einer Straftat
4227     oder um das illegale Aushebeln eines Kopierschutzverfahrens?
4228 root 1.387 %
4229 root 1.134 http://www.nature.com/nsu/021209/021209-10.html#b1
4230 root 1.387 %
4231 root 1.132 [A document] Written to answer the often asked question about the requirements
4232     on the kernel to get a POSIX compliant thread implementation. And I don't
4233     mean an implementation like this horrible implementation from IBM.
4234     -- Ulrich Drepper
4235 root 1.387 %
4236 root 1.131 GCC generates truly horrible code when no optimization is enabled.
4237     -- Ulrich Drepper
4238 root 1.387 %
4239 root 1.131 Most programmers think that the programs they write are fairly well
4240     written and perform as good as possible. In most cases this is not
4241 root 1.133 correct. -- Ulrich Drepper
4242 root 1.387 %
4243 root 1.130 Even though I cannot accept the rejection of fair use rights by the film
4244     and music industry I cannot endorse piracy.
4245     -- Ulrich Drepper
4246 root 1.387 %
4247 root 1.130 Never say "PIC Code"!. This is duplication.
4248     -- Ulrich Drepper
4249 root 1.387 %
4250 root 1.129 [http://www.ffk.co.at/programme_ffksnetmanager.asp]
4251 root 1.388 Ping und Netsend laufen jetzt über die Windows API, daher schneller und
4252     zuverlässiger
4253 root 1.387 %
4254 root 1.129 [comment from linux/drivers/block/floppy.c]
4255     /*
4256     * 1999/08/13 -- Paul Slootman -- floppy stopped working on Alpha after 24
4257     * days, 6 hours, 32 minutes and 32 seconds (i.e. MAXINT jiffies; ints were
4258     * being used to store jiffies, which are unsigned longs).
4259     */
4260 root 1.387 %
4261 root 1.128 [Microsoft creates a problem and inspires an industry to work around it.
4262     Just Great. Also learn about Microsoft Logic(tm): DLL's save memory, so
4263     you need to use them. But please use your own private versions of all your
4264     dlls so that they aren't shared...]
4265     http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnsetup/html/dlldanger1.asp
4266 root 1.387 %
4267 root 1.128 [http://lorrie.cranor.org/pubs/drm03.html]
4268     Pirating Movies
4269    
4270     [...] The attackers aren't DVD owners making illegal copies and putting
4271     them on file sharing networks. The attackers are industry insiders making
4272     illegal copies long before the DVD is ever on the market.
4273 root 1.387 %
4274 root 1.128 [Look at the time scale...]
4275     http://www.networm.org/graphics/worm-progression.Sep03.pdf
4276 root 1.387 %
4277 root 1.127 [Just funny]
4278     http://www.zug.com/pranks/turnpike/
4279 root 1.387 %
4280 root 1.127 [http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,60391,00.html]
4281     The CEO of Symantec is advocating "legislation to criminalize the
4282     sharing of information and tools online that can be used by malicious
4283     hackers and virus writers." Doesn't he realize that most of his
4284     company's engineers would end up in jail?
4285 root 1.387 %
4286 root 1.126 [http://top40-charts.com/artist.php?aid=1145]
4287     Why is it you forgive Bush for saying "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET OSAMA".
4288     and "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET SADDAM". "I GUARANTEE THERE ARE WMD'S" etc
4289     etc. Yet now he could care less about them? Of course, Clinton lies about
4290     sex and that's a huge deal(not that i am justifying what Bubba did)
4291    
4292     Why is it when the marines stormed in, they protected the oil fields but
4293     left all the other resources of Iraq to be looted?
4294    
4295     Why is it that the White House doesn't want to release information on
4296     9/11, and only gave the investigation a $3 million budget?(it took $70
4297     million to find out Clinton got a BJ, and that's all they found out for
4298     $70 million!!). Meanwhile, even with a pathetic budget, the WH stonewalls
4299     the investigating committee. It's not enough for the WH to just underfund
4300     them, theyve got to make sure they can't get to any usefull information in
4301     the first place!
4302 root 1.387 %
4303 root 1.247 Buying a Unix machine guarantees you a descent into Hell. It starts when
4304     you plug the computer in and it won't boot. Yes, they really did sell you
4305     a $10,000 computer with an unformatted disk drive.
4306 root 1.125 -- Philip Greenspun
4307 root 1.387 %
4308 root 1.124 "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we
4309     don't believe in it at all." -- Noam Chomsky
4310 root 1.387 %
4311 root 1.124 "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right
4312     to say it." -- not actually from Voltaire
4313 root 1.387 %
4314 root 1.123 "Our ability to innovate is predicated on our ability to own the
4315     platform."
4316     [Kirk Koenigsbauer, strategy manager at Microsoft's MSN]
4317 root 1.387 %
4318 root 1.123 Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
4319     waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is that
4320     frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses
4321     and you can sitll raed it wiuthoit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not
4322     raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.
4323 root 1.320 [http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/personal/matt.davis/Cmabrigde/]
4324 root 1.387 %
4325 root 1.123 [The world is getting saner and saner. The whole world? No....]
4326     http://avirubin.com/vote.pdf
4327 root 1.387 %
4328 root 1.123 [http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1210067,00.asp]
4329     So what actually happens when your Windows XP machine crashes and asks
4330     if you want to send a report? The reports obviously accumulate in some
4331     database, and I can only assume that when one bin piles up with similar
4332     crash memos, the coders get to work. Exactly how many notifications does
4333     Microsoft get? Nobody knows for sure, but based on comments Bill Gates
4334     made at a recent meeting for analysts, the number must be astronomical.
4335     Gates said that 5 percent of Windows machines crash, on average, twice
4336     daily.
4337 root 1.387 %
4338 root 1.123 "...vielleicht praktisch manchmal auch mal geraten, das, wenn auch mal..."
4339 root 1.388 [Johann Gärtner, "Die Republikaner" bei einer Fernsehsendung über ihr
4340     Wahlprogramm. Das Zitat ist repräsentativ.]
4341 root 1.387 %
4342 root 1.123 [http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/rbt/condemn_text.htm]
4343     Critics of Congress and APA's concessions have analogized this situation
4344     to that of Galileo. At the APA's annual convention in August 1999 in
4345     Boston, an anonymous source, unknown to us, posted stickers around the
4346     convention that satirically read, "If the US Congress says that 'The sun
4347     revolves around the earth,' then that fact will be given most careful
4348     consideration in all articles published by the APA."
4349 root 1.387 %
4350 root 1.247 "It is insufficient to protect ourselves with laws; we need to protect ourselves with mathematics."
4351 root 1.123 -- Bruce Schneier
4352 root 1.387 %
4353 root 1.123 [it took me over 7 minutes to find this movie again on imdb...]
4354     [...so it must be good]
4355     http://german.imdb.com/title/tt0072131/
4356 root 1.387 %
4357 root 1.123 [mplayer/libmpcodecs/ad_realaud.c]
4358     [real uses a novel protection scheme...]
4359     raSetPwd(sh->context,"Ardubancel Quazanga"); // set password... lol.
4360 root 1.387 %
4361 root 1.120 [D-Info 3/2003 Database Dump]
4362     I've written a script that dumps the D-Info 2003 database as tsv to stdout.
4363     No idea why I announce it here...
4364 root 1.121 http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/data/dump-dinfo
4365 root 1.387 %
4366 root 1.119 [Oh My God!]
4367     Subject: aic7(censored) use after free in 2.5.66
4368 root 1.387 %
4369 root 1.119 [How many squares are on a go-board?]
4370 root 1.118 http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=UTF-8&client=googlet&selm=16394336.74521.15271%40kcbbs.gen.nz&rnum=2
4371 root 1.387 %
4372 root 1.117 [http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,1020303,00.html]
4373     When I first visited Russia, in 1986, I made friends with a musician whose
4374     father had been Brezhnev's personal doctor. One day we were talking about
4375     life during 'the period of stagnation' - the Brezhnev era. 'It must have
4376     been strange being so completely immersed in propaganda,' I said.
4377    
4378     'Ah, but there is the difference. We knew it was propaganda,' replied
4379     Sacha.
4380 root 1.387 %
4381 root 1.116 [From CRYPTO-GRAM]
4382     A reader sent in this conversation he overheard at a corporate security
4383     desk one morning:
4384    
4385     Employee: I have lost my photo-ID card, can I get a day pass please?
4386    
4387     Security Guard: Certainly, what is your serial number?
4388    
4389     Employee: 123456
4390    
4391     [Security guard pulls up the details on his computer, which includes a
4392     photograph of the employee.]
4393    
4394     Security Guard: Do you have a driver's license or another piece of
4395     identification which has your picture on it?
4396    
4397     Employee: Why would you need that?
4398    
4399     Security Guard: To match against our records.
4400    
4401     Employee: A picture of my face?
4402    
4403     Security Guard: Yes
4404    
4405     Employee: This is my face -- I am wearing it on my head.
4406    
4407     Security Guard: I need another piece of ID with a picture on it to
4408     compare against this one.
4409 root 1.387 %
4410 root 1.116 [Voting in the US might be in for surprises in the future]
4411     http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/voting.shtml
4412     [frankly, I don't trust any government if it's easy to fake votes]
4413 root 1.387 %
4414 root 1.116 MS Windows passwords can be cracked in an average of 13.6 seconds.
4415     Assuming your password consists of just letters and numbers, that is. But
4416     my guess is that almost everyone falls into that category.
4417    
4418     <http://news.com.com/2100-1009_3-5053063.html>
4419     <http://lasecpc13.epfl.ch/ntcrack/>
4420 root 1.387 %
4421 root 1.123 Eppur si muove!
4422 root 1.387 %
4423 root 1.116 [bwahahaha]
4424     "RV K-17"
4425 root 1.387 %
4426 root 1.116 "We're the world's greatest superpower, but we have a Third World
4427     electricity grid," said New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson.
4428 root 1.387 %
4429 root 1.116 [where NOT to learn german :)]
4430     [http://www.berlitz.at/worldclub/reise-spanisch/]
4431     <= Es ist 10:45 Uhr / viertel vor elf / dreiviertel zehn.
4432     => Son las once menos cuarto.
4433 root 1.387 %
4434 root 1.115 ceterum censeo carthaginem esse delendam
4435     ceterum censeo mundum non delendum esse
4436 root 1.387 %
4437 root 1.115 [http://www.urheberrecht.org/news/?id=1402&w=&p=1]
4438 root 1.388 Georgia Tornow, Generalsekretärin der Produzentenvereinigung film20 übt
4439     ebenfalls Kritik an der neuen Formulierung. »In anderen Ländern ist
4440 root 1.115 mitunter die Herstellung privater Kopien untersagt. Und in den USA wird
4441 root 1.388 sogar darüber nachgedacht, Geräte zur Kopienherstellung für illegal zu
4442     erklären«, so Tornow laut »blickpunktfilm.de«.
4443 root 1.387 %
4444 root 1.122 http://www.plif.com/archive/wc285.gif
4445 root 1.387 %
4446 root 1.115 [D-Info 2003, on my box:]
4447     Linux-Distribution nicht erkannt. Koennte RedHat sein.
4448 root 1.387 %
4449 root 1.115 [This patch removed the 75 records limit in D-Info 3/2003 linux for me]
4450     [patch dinfo.i386, YMMV]
4451     <00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba 4b00 0000 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
4452     >00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba ffff ff7f 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
4453 root 1.387 %
4454 root 1.115 [bwbasic-2.20pl2/bwbasic.doc]
4455     This program was originally begun in 1982 by my grandmother, Mrs.
4456     Verda Spell of Beaumont, TX. She was writing the program using
4457     an ANSI C compiler on an Osborne I CP/M computer and although my
4458     grandfather (Lockwood Spell) had bought an IBM PC with 256k of
4459     RAM my grandmother would not use it, paraphrasing George Herbert
4460     to the effect that "He who cannot in 64k program, cannot in 512k."
4461     She had used Microsoft BASIC and although she had nothing against
4462     it she said repeatedly that she didn't understand why Digital
4463     Research didn't "sue the socks off of Microsoft" for version 1.0
4464     of MSDOS and so I reckon that she hoped to undercut Microsoft's
4465     entire market and eventually build a new software empire on
4466     the North End of Beaumont. Her programming efforts were cut
4467     tragically short when she was thrown from a Beaumont to Port
4468     Arthur commuter train in the summer of 1986. I found the source
4469     code to bwBASIC on a single-density Osborne diskette in her knitting
4470     bag and eventually managed to have it all copied over to a PC
4471     diskette. I have revised it slightly prior to this release. You
4472     should know, though, that I myself am an historian, not a programmer.
4473 root 1.387 %
4474 root 1.114 [what high dan players in go think while playing:]
4475     "Must kill ... black stones ... black stones ... must die"
4476 root 1.387 %
4477 root 1.114 [the one and only time rcp failed for me, at the very end of the transfer]
4478     rcp: protocol screwup: mtime.sec not delimited
4479 root 1.387 %
4480 root 1.113 [Wasteland]
4481     Lester Moore,
4482     Shot in the head with a .44.
4483     No Les, no more.
4484 root 1.387 %
4485 root 1.113 [SSK@DFpkjvKWA0kGPZUgm9LkJE1jX4cPAgM/MattersPhallic/4//]
4486     Mormon advice on how to abstain from wanking
4487    
4488     STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION
4489     [for the rest of this entertaining document see the freesite]
4490 root 1.387 %
4491 root 1.113 [Fallout]
4492     Here lies the body of Jonathan Blake
4493     Stepped on the gas instead of the brake
4494 root 1.387 %
4495 root 1.111 [http://www.counterpane.com/pptpv2-paper.html]
4496     As we will discuss later, multiple layers of hashing are used in the
4497     different steps of MS-CHAPv2. While this hashing serves to obscure some
4498     of the values, it is unclear what the cryptographic significance of them
4499     are. All they seem to do is to slow down the execution of the protocol.
4500 root 1.112 [...]
4501     It is unclear to us why this protocol is so complicated.
4502     [...]
4503     The Server concatenates the password-hash-hash, the 24-byte NT response,
4504     and the literal string "Magic server to client constant", and then hashes
4505     the result with SHA.
4506 root 1.387 %
4507 root 1.388 > Für viele wird interessant sein, dass ich bisher bei jedem Kunden
4508 root 1.111 > rechnerisch nachweisen konnte, dass OpenSource !immer! der teurere Weg
4509     > ist!
4510 root 1.388 Das bedeutet, daß durch Offenlegung des Source Codes eines Produkts
4511     plötzlich höhere Aufwände entstehen? Was für ein Kundensegment betreust
4512 root 1.111 Du denn? Analphabeten?
4513 root 1.387 %
4514 root 1.388 "Der Sun-Forte-Compiler ist näher am C++-Standard als G++"
4515     [Jörg Schilling, CeBit 2003]
4516 root 1.387 %
4517 root 1.109 17:21 <elmex> ok, sex kann ich nicht, aber ich kann vim und Perl ;)
4518 root 1.387 %
4519 root 1.108 [Biggest ping rtt I've ever seen]
4520     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=473 ttl=128 time=779.5 ms
4521     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=474 ttl=128 time=524.1 ms
4522     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=475 ttl=128 time=275.6 ms
4523     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=539 ttl=128 time=656365.4 ms
4524     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=540 ttl=128 time=655365.5 ms
4525 root 1.387 %
4526 root 1.108 [I once used a vped.conf from windows on linux, and then had to:]
4527     tcpdump -eni\\\\.\\{F2CB3DC8-1
4528 root 1.387 %
4529 root 1.107 [links are free ;)]
4530     http://knowthetruth.b0x.com/Bush_Family/Bush_-_Hitler/bush_-_hitler.html
4531 root 1.387 %
4532 root 1.106 [http://pobox.com/~oleg/MacHack96/]
4533     Can software development be elevated from the Microsoft style?
4534 root 1.387 %
4535 root 1.105 [openssl, crypto/evp/evp_enc.c]
4536    
4537     /* One positive side-effect of US's export
4538     * control history, is that we should at least
4539     * be able to avoid using US mispellings of
4540     * "initialisation"? */
4541     EVPerr(EVP_F_EVP_CIPHERINIT, EVP_R_INITIALIZATION_ERROR);
4542 root 1.387 %
4543 root 1.105 [man pem]
4544     Although the PEM routines take several arguments in almost all applications most of them are set to 0 or NULL.
4545 root 1.387 %
4546 root 1.105 [pth_native.c]
4547    
4548     /* ``If you can't do it in
4549 root 1.247 ANSI C, it isn't worth doing.''
4550 root 1.105 -- Unknown */
4551 root 1.387 %
4552 root 1.104 [subculture]
4553 root 1.388 ... scorp sind lucker und use script lamer aber über cheater aufregen
4554     mehr nich und zu fünft in nem raum sitzen und dann public zocken und dann
4555 root 1.104 skillig vorkommen ...
4556    
4557     [http://forum.topwebmaster.net/extern/de/Ricoohh/thread/9196-77365]
4558 root 1.424 %
4559 root 1.104 [back to the roots. you might not understand the following, but
4560     this list is about things _I_ find funny, not you... :)]
4561 root 1.247 00:16 <elmex> 'mit windows netzwerk zu debuggen ist ungefaehr so sinnvoll wie eine
4562 root 1.104 gehirnoperation mit einem vorschlaghammer'
4563 root 1.247 00:18 <oesi> elmex: da ich in deinem ignore bin, kann ich ja volltrottel sagen.
4564 root 1.104 ethereal rennt seit jahren unter win32
4565     00:18 <elmex> oesi: ja, aber netzwerk nicht ;)
4566 root 1.387 %
4567 root 1.103 [http://home.rhein-zeitung.de/~cknust/detroit/a-z/medikamt.htm]
4568 root 1.388 ... Den Amerikanern sind Zäpfchen ebenso wie rektales Fiebermessen absolut
4569     suspekt; der Verdacht der Kinderschändung steht sofort unausgesprochen im
4570     Raum. Zäpfchen ("Suppositorium") werden allenfalls in der Notfallmedizin
4571 root 1.103 im Krankenhaus verwendet. Haben Sie ein Kind, das an Asthma oder
4572 root 1.388 Pseudo-Krupp-Anfällen leidet, bringen Sie sich einen entsprechenden Vorrat
4573     an Zäpfchen unbedingt mit, erwähnen Sie diese aber, soweit möglich, nicht
4574     vor amerikanischen Ärzten. ...
4575 root 1.387 %
4576 root 1.102 sendmail ist wie masturbation mit einer gurkenraspel, erzeugt viele spaene
4577     aber wenig freude.
4578 root 1.387 %
4579 root 1.102 [from a deviance.nfo, looking for new members, I think it's waaay funny]
4580     - you are a Unix guru with good Ansi-C software developing knowledge
4581     and understanding how to prevent network security vulnerabilities.
4582     That means you must be able to code to ansi-c guru level. And you
4583     must also have a good coder perspective of hostbase and network
4584     based intrusion detection systems. You should be able to code tools
4585     to generically prevent stack and heap buffer overflows on unix in
4586     Ansi-C. And Be able to code tools to look after a group of systems
4587     and code sniffing avoidance tools. And you can configure a system
4588     in ways to prevent packet sniffers and "man in the middle" attacks.
4589 root 1.387 %
4590 root 1.388 17:39 <schmorp> marco: flüge von hannover/dortmund [nach sofia] etc. sind glatt
4591     doppelt so teuer wie die gleichen von stuttgart/münchen/frankfurt
4592 root 1.101 17:39 <marco> schmorp: da wollen zu viele weg und zu wenig hin... also sind die
4593     fluege dort nur halb ausgelastet *g*
4594 root 1.387 %
4595 root 1.100 For me, this article simply illustrates that centralised trust models
4596     don't work well in practise.
4597     http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/12/09/021209opwinman.xml
4598 root 1.387 %
4599 root 1.99 [Rumsfeld in a CNN interview]
4600     There is an old saying, in the pentagon:
4601     "ready, fire, aim."
4602 root 1.387 %
4603 root 1.98 [...] You're allowed to resell the [windows] media but not the
4604     license. "Unfortunately" for Microsoft, this distinction is illegal in
4605     free countries like Germany [1].
4606     [...]
4607     Regards
4608     Henning
4609    
4610     [1] The current german governement is actively trying to change this
4611     part of the german law. That's what you get for electing morons who
4612     might look good on TV. At this point, we're already on U.S. levels.
4613 root 1.387 %
4614 root 1.98 [...]
4615     The GPL does not restrict you. Contrary, it uses copyright law to
4616     establish a pool of software with much more freedom as copyright law gives
4617     to you. It only does not give you so much freedom to deny other people the
4618     same freedoms. The copyright holders can only do so, because copyright law
4619     itself give you none of these rights at all.
4620     [...]
4621     Wolfgang Walter
4622 root 1.387 %
4623 root 1.98 burro: i once played against a computer
4624     burro: it seemed very clever
4625     burro: but then all its groups died in yose
4626     burro: it forgot to defend later..
4627     burro: oops
4628     burro: accidental poetry
4629 root 1.387 %
4630 root 1.98 [about a go game between a pro player and some really good amateur,
4631     where white could have lived easily but decided to risk it]
4632     yoyoma [7k]: white is pro, rather die gloriosly than live in gote with a7!
4633 root 1.387 %
4634 root 1.98 [from the default config of the oh-so-broken unrealircd]
4635     #define BIG_SECURITY_HOLE
4636 root 1.387 %
4637 root 1.98 "In fact the whole of Japan is pure invention. There is no such country, there are no such people."
4638     -- Oscar Wilde
4639 root 1.387 %
4640 root 1.98 [a principle used in florida's law]
4641     "guilty until proven innocent"
4642     [http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/main.htm]
4643 root 1.387 %
4644 root 1.98 Wonderful news! A little Jewish woman, calling Mount Sinai Hospital,
4645     said, "Hello, darling, I'd like to talk with the person who gives the
4646     information regarding your patients. I want to know if the patient is
4647     getting better, or doing like expected, or is getting worse." The voice
4648     on the other end of the line said, "What is the patient's name and room
4649     number?" She said, "Yes, darling! she's Sarah Finkel, in Room 302." He
4650     said, "Oh, yes. Mrs. Finkel is doing very well. In fact, she's had two
4651     full meals, her blood pressure is fine, her blood work just came back
4652     as normal, she's going to be taken off the heart monitor in a couple of
4653     hours and if she continues this improvement, Dr. Cohen is going to send
4654     her home Tuesday at twelve o' clock." The woman said, "Thank God! That's
4655     wonderful! Oh! that's fantastic, darling!... That's wonderful news!" The
4656     man on the phone said, "From your enthusiasm, I take it you must be a
4657     close family member or a very close friend!" She said, "I'm Sarah Finkel
4658     in 302! My doctor doesn't tell me shit!
4659 root 1.387 %
4660 root 1.98 [gcc-3.2/.../sstream>
4661     // NB: Start ostringstream buffers at 512 bytes. This is an
4662     // experimental value (pronounced "arbitrary" in some of the
4663     // hipper english-speaking countries), and can be changed to
4664     // suit particular needs.
4665     _M_buf_size_opt = 512;
4666 root 1.387 %
4667 root 1.98 [members.aon.at/paulinchen/advtex/sanitar.htm]
4668     [Walkthrough SANITARIUM]
4669     ... Deshalb suchst du erneut den Wassertempel auf. ... Dort haust du als
4670 root 1.388 Grimwall den Lukas ... Darauf hin öffnet der Clown seinen Mund und du
4671 root 1.98 kannst als Olmec die Melodie ...
4672 root 1.387 %
4673 root 1.97 [Onibaba - Great Movie]
4674     http://us.imdb.com/Title?0058430
4675 root 1.387 %
4676 root 1.97 [Kuroneko - I'd like to see :(]
4677     http://us.imdb.com/Title?0122136
4678 root 1.387 %
4679 root 1.96 [<Sesse> microsoft finally takes security seriously]
4680     [http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q276304]
4681     Error Message: Your Password Must Be at Least 18770 Characters and Cannot Repeat Any of Your Previous 30689 Passwords
4682 root 1.387 %
4683 root 1.96 GNU Emacs kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 11.300
4684     vi - Editor. Kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 2.333
4685 root 1.388 XML für Dummies. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 225.881
4686     JavaScript für Dummies. Dynamische Websites selbst gemacht. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 24.576
4687 root 1.387 %
4688 root 1.96 [http://kyushu.com/gleaner/editorspick/seppuku.shtml]
4689    
4690     [...] Obviously you have to decide well in advance why you are doing
4691     [seppuku] [...] Resistance, remonstrance, show of loyalty, affirmation of
4692     the correctness of one's own position, expiation of a crime and the wiping
4693     out of disgrace are all perfectly good reasons; being refused a work visa
4694     is not [...]
4695 root 1.387 %
4696 root 1.247 Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd
4697 root 1.95 all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
4698     repetitive electronic music." --Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
4699 root 1.387 %
4700 root 1.94 [some hilights from:]
4701     [http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/Fachbegriffe.der.Informatik.html]
4702    
4703 root 1.388 _Einfach erklärt_
4704 root 1.94
4705     GUI
4706     Ein Hintergrundbild und 12 Xterms
4707     Globale Variable
4708 root 1.388 Parameterübergabemechanismus in 4GLs
4709 root 1.94 objektorientiert
4710     Den Code habe ich von meinem Vorgaenger geerbt.
4711     strukturiert
4712     dieses Programm besteht aus mehreren Funktionen
4713     Multithreaded
4714 root 1.388 Wir mußten ein Flußdiagramm malen, um es zu debuggen.
4715 root 1.94 Windows 95
4716 root 1.388 Das Fortran 77 der Benutzungsoberflächen
4717 root 1.94 Emacs
4718 root 1.388 Ich habe ja auch nie bezweifelt, daß emacs ein tolles Betriebssystem
4719     ist. Aber um mit Linux oder Windows konkurrieren zu können, fehlt ihm
4720     ein vernünftiger Editor.
4721 root 1.94 IPv6
4722     $ telnet hundehalsband.georg.hunde.sonnenstrasse.muenchen.de
4723     Trying 942884947298374923847982472983. 2398749874987249247.
4724     2398472372349. 3249782374927898324. 2987238479874987398634.
4725     2987428901171209471. 23987432923. 23478987923.
4726 root 1.388 Die fünf Sinne des C++-Programmierers
4727     Der Schwachsinn, der Blödsinn, der Wahnsinn, der Unsinn und der Stumpfsinn.
4728 root 1.247 PHP
4729 root 1.388 Meine C-64-Basic-Übungen hat niemand zu Gesicht bekommen, während die
4730 root 1.94 in PHP verbrochenen Laufstall-Verunfallungen heutiger Milchgesichter
4731 root 1.388 die Welt verpesten und womöglich von Schlipstraeger-Deppen als
4732     e-Commerce-Lösung gekauft worden sind.
4733 root 1.247 Alleinstellungsmerkmal
4734 root 1.94 Bunt.
4735 root 1.388 Plattformunabhängig
4736     Wenn Du GWBASIC im Dos-Emulator laufen läßt bist Du auch
4737     plattformunabhängig! Du brauchst nur einen Dos-Emulator!
4738 root 1.95 [94: Copyright left out, too long, see original url]
4739 root 1.387 %
4740 root 1.93 [logic & fallacies]
4741     http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html
4742 root 1.387 %
4743 root 1.93 http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/library/wonderful/index.php
4744 root 1.387 %
4745 root 1.93 [nah]
4746     In the Arthur Penn film "Night Moves," someone asks Gene Hackman for an
4747     appraisal of Eric Rohmer's work, to which he replies, "it's like watching
4748     paint dry."
4749 root 1.387 %
4750 root 1.92 http://www2.psy.uq.edu.au/~jay/papers/thesis.pdf
4751     http://home.attbi.com/~bglodis/htmf/AI2-GO2.htm
4752     http://newyork.villageworld.com/users/bradleym/index.htm
4753 root 1.387 %
4754 root 1.178 [Keith Packard about some design holes in X that lead to XRender]
4755 root 1.91 The rules themselves may be broken, but their existence is of vital
4756     importance.
4757 root 1.387 %
4758 root 1.91 [http://cbbrowne.com/info/xpersonal.html]
4759     [_very_ good pages, read them all!]
4760     Many things have been hacked onto Win32; unfortunately, actually using
4761     Windows-based facilities has two massive detrimental effects:
4762    
4763     You have to trust Microsoft.
4764    
4765     There are a number of things that I would trust Microsoft with. I trust
4766     Microsoft to continue to release buggy software such as the Windows 98
4767     release that needed patches to survive to 1999, let alone 2000. I trust
4768     Microsoft to continue to release software that gets more bloated such
4769     that it requires as much memory as systems can support just to support
4770     useless chrome.
4771    
4772     But control over whether my code will continue to be usable next year
4773     whether due to technical or licensing changes is not one of the things
4774     I'd like to trust them with.
4775 root 1.93 [...]
4776 root 1.387 %
4777 root 1.91 [when choosing "About" from the mozilla menu]
4778     [now, which OS let's us enjoy similar error messages all the time? ;)]
4779     XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
4780     Location: jar:resource:///chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/global/about.xhtml
4781     Line Number 90, Column 15:
4782 root 1.247 <li>Copyright &copy; 1998-2002 by <a href="about:credits">Contributors</a> to
4783 root 1.91 --------------^
4784 root 1.387 %
4785 root 1.91 [from the kanon 10% english translation patch README]
4786     [http://haeleth.port5.com/]
4787     A Japanese effect not found in English is the wonderful verbless sentence,
4788     which I like so much that I've translated a few literally. I do know
4789     English grammar, I assure you.
4790 root 1.387 %
4791 root 1.91 Giant hornets regularly attack beehives. Typically, an attack begins when
4792     a single hornet captures a lone bee nearby the hive. After several of
4793     these perimeter skirmishes, one hornet leaves a marking pheromone at the
4794     hive's entrance. This pheromone attracts the other hornets, who arrive
4795     en masse and attack the beehive. The bees' stingers can't penetrate the
4796     hornets' armor, so it's a one-sided slaughter; something like 30,000 bees
4797     can be killed in a few hours by 30-40 hornets.
4798    
4799     Japanese honeybees, however, have evolved an interesting defensive
4800     strategy. When a hornet marks the hive's entrance, the bees guarding the
4801     entrance return to the hive and wait for the attacking hornets. This has
4802     the effect of luring the first attacking hornets into the hive, rather
4803     than allowing them to start their attack outside. Simultaneously, over
4804     1000 worker bees in the hive leave the combs and mass just inside the
4805     hive's entrance. When a hornet tries to enter the hive, the workers
4806     surround it, forming a ball of bodies, and cook it to death with their
4807     body heat. The bees also release a pheromone that draws ever more bees
4808     from the hive's interior to come to the entrance and defend the nest.
4809    
4810     This strategy must be perfect in order to be successful. If the bees fail
4811     in killing the first hornet attackers, then the hornet pheromone gets
4812     stronger, and more hornets arrive to reinforce their attack. By sheer
4813     numbers, the hornets can overpower the bees.
4814    
4815     Source: Bernd Heinrich, "The Thermal Warriors: Strategies of Insect
4816     Survival," Harvard University Press, 1996.
4817 root 1.387 %
4818 root 1.91 [http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/csrss-backspace-bug.html]
4819     [fixed in latest service packs, but still funny ;)]
4820     The following neat little program, when compiled and run, will completely
4821     crash XP (and any earlier version of NT) (when I ran it, XP rebooted). I
4822     don't recommend you really try this program, but if you do, save all your
4823     work etc first:
4824    
4825     #include <stdio.h>
4826    
4827     int main (void) {
4828     while (1)
4829     printf ("\t\t\b\b\b\b\b\b");
4830    
4831     return 0;
4832     }
4833 root 1.387 %
4834 root 1.91 [you might point your windows-using-friends to this page, it
4835     contains a lot of funny FUD ;)]
4836 root 1.90 http://www.hevanet.com/peace/microsoft.htm
4837 root 1.387 %
4838 root 1.90 [http://eros.cs.jhu.edu/~shap/NT-EAL4.html]
4839     Security experts have been saying for years that the the security of
4840     the Windows family of products is hopelessly inadequate. Now there is a
4841     rigorous government certification confirming this.
4842 root 1.387 %
4843 root 1.89 [mms_client after finishing the download]
4844     everything done. Thank you for downloading a media file containing
4845     proprietary and patentend technology.
4846 root 1.387 %
4847 root 1.88 I wouldn't want to win the Steven Spielberg Award - he is an amateur!
4848 root 1.388 -- Aki Kaurismäki
4849 root 1.387 %
4850 root 1.87 [http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/godel.html]
4851 root 1.388 "The Gödelian structure of the unity of levels of Reality associated
4852 root 1.87 with the logic of the included middle implies that it is impossible to
4853     construct a complete theory for describing the passage from one level to
4854     the other and, a fortiori, for describing the unity of levels of Reality."
4855 root 1.387 %
4856 root 1.388 1. Das von den Parteien eingeführte Listenwahlrecht verstößt gegen
4857     Art. 38, Abs. 1, Satz 1 Grundgesetz (GG): »Die Abgeordneten des Deutschen
4858 root 1.87 Bundestages werden in allgemeiner, unmittelbarer, freier, gleicher und
4859 root 1.388 geheimer Wahl gewählt.« Danach muß es dem Bürger möglich sein, seinen
4860     Abgeordneten unmittelbar zu wählen. Die Wahl von Parteienlisten ist also
4861 root 1.87 verfassungswidrig, nicht zuletzt deshalb, weil hierbei Kandidaten zum Zuge
4862 root 1.388 kommen, die der Listenwähler nicht wählen will.
4863 root 1.87
4864 root 1.388 2. Der Fraktionszwang verstößt ebenfalls gegen das Grundgesetz. Satz
4865     2 des Art. 38, Abs. 1, lautet nämlich: »Sie (die Abgeordneten) sind
4866     Vertreter des ganzen Volkes, an Aufträge und Weisungen nicht gebunden
4867     und nur ihrem Gewissen unterworfen.« Wenn Fraktionsvorsitzende den frei
4868     gewählten Abgeordneten einer Fraktionsdisziplin unterwerfen (und das noch
4869     unter Androhung von Sanktionen), erteilen sie Weisungen darüber, wie die
4870 root 1.87 Abgeordneten der Partei abzustimmen haben. Es handelt sich dann um eine
4871     Form fraktionsinternen imperativen Mandats.
4872    
4873 root 1.388 3. Die überbordende Staatsverschuldung (vor allem im Bund) verstößt gegen
4874     Art. 115 des GG. Darin heißt es in Abs. 1, Satz 2: »Die Einnahmen aus
4875     Krediten dürfen die Summe der im Haushaltsplan veranschlagten Ausgaben für
4876     Investitionen nicht überschreiten; Ausnahmen sind nur zulässig zur Abwehr
4877     einer Störung des gesamtwirtschaftlichen Gleichgewichts.« Unter Fachleuten
4878     besteht nicht der geringste Zweifel, daß das vorgeschriebene Kreditlimit
4879     (Höhe der »Ausgaben für Investitionen«) durch Haushaltstricks sträflich
4880     überschritten wurde. Die Folge: Im Jahre 2001 erreichte die Verschuldung
4881     der Gebietskörperschaften die unvorstellbare Höhe von 1.210 Mrd. Euro (im
4882     Bund: 700 Mrd. Euro); das sind 79 Prozent des jährlichen Volkseinkommens
4883 root 1.87 von 1.531 Mrd. Euro.
4884 root 1.387 %
4885 root 1.87 [just FMI (for my information)]
4886     http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7eflavell/charset/form-i18n.html
4887 root 1.387 %
4888 root 1.87 [perldoc perlboot]
4889     Typically, each @ISA has only one element (multiple elements means
4890     multiple inheritance and multiple headaches)
4891 root 1.387 %
4892 root 1.87 [I find that all this stallman-bashing is a sure sign that that
4893     "linux" thing will fail]
4894     In lists.linux.kernel.development, Larry McVoy wrote:
4895     [...]
4896 root 1.247 Richard Stallman started the free software foundation. He built the
4897 root 1.87 compiler, library and zillions of other tools that developers use on a day
4898     to day basis. He slept at the offices of MIT while he spent his time,
4899     effort and money building up the Free Software Foundation.
4900    
4901     Though many people differ with him on a wide variety of issues, he
4902     deserves respect from all because he has devoted twenty years of his
4903     life to the public good.
4904    
4905     You, on the other hand, develop and sell a proprietary software product.
4906     You convinced a large number of kernel developers (most importantly
4907     Linus himself) to use your proprietary product to develop free software,
4908     so that you could tell potential customers "Gee! Look how great my
4909     software is! It's used to develop the linux kernel!"
4910    
4911     You don't care about free software Larry. You're just glad that you have
4912     a poster child to display your effort. Want proof? Look at how you have
4913     treated numerous kernel developers when you found out that they worked
4914     on free software projects that could potentially compete with your
4915     software some day -- you revoke their "free" license to use your
4916     software to work on the linux kernel!
4917    
4918     Richard is trying to change the world into a better place. You, however,
4919     are trying to get rich, and you're using free software as a stepping
4920     stone to promote your proprietary software. Nothing wrong with getting
4921     rich of course -- I'd love to be rich too. But you certainly don't
4922     deserve to be lumped into the same group as RMS.
4923 root 1.387 %
4924 root 1.86 [perldoc perlreftut]
4925 root 1.247 What does line 4 do here?
4926     [...]
4927     This is Perl, so it does the exact right thing.
4928 root 1.387 %
4929 root 1.86 [perldoc perlreftut]
4930     Think of the President of the United States: a messy, inconvenient bag of
4931     blood and bones. But to talk about him, or to represent him in a computer
4932     program, all you need is the easy, convenient scalar string "George Bush".
4933 root 1.387 %
4934 root 1.86 [rise and fall of free software standards]
4935 root 1.247 * GNU Gettext and %expect
4936     GNU Gettext asserts 10 s/r conflicts, but there are 7. Now that
4937     Bison dies on incorrect %expectations, we fear there will be
4938     too many bug reports for Gettext, so _for the time being_, %expect
4939     does not trigger an error when the input file is named `plural.y'.
4940 root 1.387 %
4941 root 1.86 Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers.
4942     -- Leonard Brandwein
4943 root 1.387 %
4944 root 1.85 [11:57] <schmorp> email@wanadoo.fr
4945 root 1.247 [11:57] <schmorp> you know what wannados are?
4946     [11:58] <Arvoreen> the french pendant of aol users ??
4947     [11:58] <schmorp> nope
4948     [11:58] <Arvoreen> then no clue
4949     [11:58] <schmorp> "people who fail before they even try"
4950     [12:00] <Zeograd> wanadoo was actually named following this idea, *sigh*
4951     [12:00] <schmorp> not really, yes?
4952     [12:00] <Zeograd> yes
4953     [12:00] <schmorp> ;);)
4954     [12:03] <schmorp> that "yes" sounded really painful
4955     [12:03] <Zeograd> more than you could imagine :)
4956 root 1.387 %
4957 root 1.247 [11:37] <Arvoreen> Oui mon francais est un peu
4958     [11:38] <Zeograd> Arvoreen: not bad, it doesn't mean much but it sounds french :)
4959 root 1.387 %
4960 root 1.84 A Russian hacker was sentenced to three years in prison here in the
4961     United States for breaking computer crime laws here. It's an
4962     interesting story. He was in Russia at the time, and broke no laws in
4963     his country. However, the U.S. prosecution broke Russian laws to
4964     collect evidence against him. The judge agreed with the FBI's
4965     assertion that Russian law didn't apply to them. Isn't international
4966     jurisprudence fun?
4967     <http://in.tech.yahoo.com/021005/137/1w2bq.html>
4968 root 1.387 %
4969 root 1.247 [02:58] <Sesse> microsoft finally gets it:
4970     [02:58] <Sesse> Visual Basic .NET delivers the feature most requested by existing Visual Basic
4971     [02:58] <Sesse> developers--fewer bugs in the code they write.
4972 root 1.84 [...]
4973 root 1.247 [03:00] <Sesse> "VB programmers have finally found out they lack talent, and blame Microsoft" ;-)
4974 root 1.387 %
4975 root 1.84 [found at www.imdb.com]
4976     the trouble with the global village are all the global village idiots.
4977     - Paul Ginsparg.
4978 root 1.387 %
4979 root 1.84 prionbrain: A joke I just read: " A girl phoned me the other day and
4980     said, .. come on over, there's nobody home. I went over. There was nobody
4981     home.":))
4982     [erm...]
4983 root 1.387 %
4984 root 1.84 > described above, CONFIG_XBOX_SUPPORT will depend on CONFIG_PCI.
4985    
4986 root 1.247 Which seems fair enough. ISA bus X-box systems are suprisingly rare
4987 root 1.387 %
4988 root 1.247 [05:06] <elmex> windows has 2 left hands when it comes to being an OS
4989 root 1.387 %
4990 root 1.83 [http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/mml/mduerst/papers/PDF/IUC11-UTF-8.pdf]
4991    
4992     [...] In particular, the following behaviour proposed or observed in some
4993     implementations is not UTF-8 and should never be presented as such. First,
4994     UTF16 surrogate pairs could be encoded in UTF-8 as two sequences of 3
4995     bytes each (this behaviour is observed in some Java implementations).
4996 root 1.387 %
4997 root 1.83 .+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+''
4998     / \ / \ / \ / \ /
4999     .+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+'
5000 root 1.387 %
5001 root 1.82 From: "David S. Miller"
5002 root 1.83
5003     > Then shouldn't the thing thats different from the norm be programmed into a header file which contains how certain functions should be+++
5004 root 1.82
5005     If I gave you a dollar, would you go out and buy some newlines
5006     to use in future emails?
5007 root 1.387 %
5008 root 1.82 Could somebody drag the Irix team kicking and screaming into the 1980's,
5009     please?
5010    
5011     I realize it might be quite painful for them, but maybe you could buy them
5012     a disco tape, so they'd feel a little bit more at home.
5013    
5014 root 1.247 Linus "Stayin' alive, stayin' alive" Torvalds
5015 root 1.387 %
5016 root 1.82 Yesterday, the local Brazilian authorities signed a decree stating that the
5017     Brazilian daylight saving period will start on November 3rd 2002 and will
5018     last until February 16th 2003.
5019    
5020     So, clocks will be set one hour forward on November 3rd (12:00 a.m. will be
5021     changed to 1:00 a.m.) and at midnight (0:00 am) on February 16th, Brazil
5022     will adjust its clocks back one hour (23:00 pm on Feb 15th) marking the
5023     end.
5024    
5025     The reason for the delay this year has to do with elections in Brazil.
5026    
5027     Unlike in the United States, elections in Brazil are 100% computerized and
5028     the results are known almost immediately. Yesterday, it was the first
5029     round of the elections when 115 million Brazilians voted for President,
5030     Governor, Senators, Federal Deputies, and State Deputies. Nobody is
5031     counting (or re-counting) votes anymore and we know there will be a second
5032     round for the Presidency and also for some Governors. The 2nd round will
5033     take place on October 27th.
5034    
5035     The reason why the DST will only begin November 3rd is that the thousands
5036     of electoral machines used cannot have their time changed, and since the
5037     Constitution says the elections must begin at 8:00 AM and end at 5:00 PM ,
5038     the Government decided to postpone DST, instead of changing the
5039     Constitution (maybe, for the next elections, it will be possible to change
5040     the clock)...
5041 root 1.387 %
5042 root 1.81 [boycot your enemies]
5043     > We're a business. We're a business which happens to be committed to
5044     > helping the kernel team because we think that the kernel is vital to the
5045     > world at large. Helping the kernel absolutely does not translate to
5046     > helping people who happen to be our competitors. By your own
5047    
5048     Stop lying. Your job is to make lots of money and you are using Linux as
5049     cheap advertising. You are trying to make people pay *you* to do kernel
5050     development (as it stands you want $5000 for any bk-using developer inside
5051     RedHat and SuSE).
5052    
5053     I hope your company dies ASAP and bitkeeper stops poisoning air here.
5054    
5055     Pavel
5056 root 1.387 %
5057 root 1.81 Rik
5058 root 1.247 --
5059 root 1.81 A: No.
5060     Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?
5061 root 1.387 %
5062 root 1.81 > Incidently unlimited permission is granted to use disks containing only
5063 root 1.247 > GNU/Linux software as footballs without royalties. All other usage of
5064     > disks as footballs will be considered on a per case basis.
5065 root 1.81
5066     I would be inclined to allow this for Windows drives instead. They contain
5067     no useful data.
5068    
5069 root 1.247 --
5070 root 1.81 bill davidsen
5071 root 1.387 %
5072 root 1.80 In the switching software (written in C)
5073     there was a long do..while construct,
5074     which contained a switch statement,
5075     which contained an if clause,
5076     which contained a break,
5077     which was intended for the if clause,
5078     but instead broke from the switch statement.
5079    
5080     - Network message explaining the breakdown of the AT&T long-distance
5081     network January 15, 1990
5082 root 1.387 %
5083 root 1.80 [From "password retrieval policies" of some irc network:]
5084    
5085 root 1.247 They are likely to continue asking for the password, even after you have
5086     told them that it has been E-Mailed. /Ignore the stupid user. /Kick the
5087     stupid user. Do not /Kill the stupid user, since being stupid is not a
5088     violation of network policies.
5089 root 1.80
5090     [the same document, explaining K:Lines]
5091    
5092     K:Lines - These lines define which clients are not allowed to connect.
5093     The format is as follows:
5094    
5095     K:*.aol.com:AOL sucks:lamer
5096 root 1.387 %
5097 root 1.79 [Microsoft's Craig Mundie on security.]
5098     "People confuse 'security' and Trustworthy Computing."
5099     http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/features/2002/feb02/02-20mundieqa.asp
5100 root 1.387 %
5101 root 1.79 http://staging.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/09/05/020905hnmssecure.xml
5102     "I'm not proud," [Brian] Valentine [senior vice president in charge of
5103     Microsoft's Windows development team] said, as he spoke to a crowd of
5104     developers here at the company's Windows .Net Server developer
5105     conference. "We really haven't done everything we could to protect our
5106     customers ... Our products just aren't engineered for security."
5107     ...
5108     "If you go back a few years, unless you were working on login at
5109     Microsoft, you really didn't worry about security. The risk wasn't worth
5110     the effort."
5111 root 1.387 %
5112 root 1.79 http://www.satirewire.com/news/aug02/encryption.shtml
5113 root 1.387 %
5114 root 1.79 [please bear with me and understand that I didn't intend to drive
5115     gay people mad at me with this one...]
5116 root 1.78 [10:16] <pixelpapst> Wenn man ihn mal mit so 'nem richtigen Bilderbuch-Schwulen wie
5117 root 1.247 Lukas vergleicht :)
5118     [10:16] <elmex> Lukas is net schwul, er is Consultant
5119 root 1.387 %
5120 root 1.76 http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/tenseg1.html
5121 root 1.387 %
5122 root 1.76 http://24.86.132.253/090101/feature/feature.htm
5123 root 1.387 %
5124 root 1.76 I maintain a /bin/ps that supports BSD, SysV, and Gnu syntax all at the
5125     same time. It requires Linux. This one works; the Red Hat one is broken.
5126     [Albert Cahalan]
5127 root 1.387 %
5128 root 1.75 The Berkeley shell csh is reasonably well known and widely used and its
5129     externals have been subject to some criticism. The internals of csh are at
5130     least as bad, but lesser known.
5131 root 1.387 %
5132 root 1.75 There are billions of different ways of parsing argv, the list of command
5133     line arguments passed to a C program. The problem is that they are all
5134     different.
5135 root 1.387 %
5136 root 1.75 A common disease in programs written at Berkeley is to open /dev/kmem and grub the load averages out by the dirtiest means possible.
5137 root 1.387 %
5138 root 1.76 [no, I still don't like bondage & discipline]
5139     http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/~geldridg/eiffel/liberty/meyer-bertrand/java/bm-2nd.html
5140 root 1.387 %
5141 root 1.74 [about the early CD-R dyes]
5142     The early, immature media caused some interesting problems. A certain
5143     popular Technics CD player, often used in radio stations, had a bad habit
5144     of accepting the early media, but refusing to eject it, causing much
5145     consternation to disc jockeys who were left without a player and possibly
5146     without a show.
5147 root 1.387 %
5148 root 1.76 [more of a timestamp]
5149 root 1.73 "SANS, SOUCI"
5150 root 1.387 %
5151 root 1.72 http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/canthappen.html
5152 root 1.387 %
5153 root 1.71 The Ten Commandments for C Programmers
5154     http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/commandments.html
5155 root 1.387 %
5156 root 1.71 [Bruce Schneier]
5157     A bill introduced into Congress gives copyright holders -- that's the RIAA,
5158     the MPAA, and similar guys -- the right to break into people's computers if
5159 root 1.247 they have a reasonable basis to believe that copyright infringement is
5160 root 1.71 going on.
5161     [...]
5162 root 1.247 People they choose to target would be deemed guilty until proven
5163     otherwise. In short, this bill would set up the entertainment industry
5164     as a Gestapo-like enforcement agency with no oversight.
5165 root 1.387 %
5166 root 1.70 [06:20] <Draxxon> BTW, (being from the USA) If pro is the grammatical
5167     opposite of con, then the opposite of "progress" would be... "Congress"???
5168 root 1.387 %
5169 root 1.247 You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
5170 root 1.387 %
5171 root 1.69 http://www29.compaq.com/falco/detail.asp?FAQnum=FAQ2859
5172 root 1.387 %
5173 root 1.69 [practical go humor]
5174     Lantu: ok any suggestions for good practical jokes to play on Pro's? :]
5175     id: Make a line of five stones, yell "Pente", and *insist* you've won.
5176 root 1.387 %
5177 root 1.68 [windows API rocks]
5178     The FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS enumeration type defines values that are used with
5179     the FindFirstFileEx function to specify the information level of the
5180     returned data.
5181    
5182 root 1.247 typedef enum _FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS {
5183     FindExInfoStandard
5184     } FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS ;
5185 root 1.387 %
5186 root 1.388 [Arvoreen philosophiert über die Verkleinerung von GNOME mit strip]
5187 root 1.67 [05:10] <Arvoreen> 153MB gestripped und vorher 541MB
5188     [05:13] <Arvoreen> oder wie der Wirtschaftswissenschaftler sagen wuerde um 354%
5189 root 1.247 kleiner ;-)))))) (die haben ja die prozente oberhalb von 100 erfunden)
5190 root 1.387 %
5191 root 1.66 [Microsoft documents how file types are detected in IE. No wonder
5192     it doesn't work:]
5193     1. If the "suggested" (server-provided) MIME type is unknown (not
5194     known and not ambiguous), FindMimeFromData immediately returns
5195     this MIME type as the final determination.
5196 root 1.387 %
5197 root 1.65 [freshmeat. And this release even adds ANOTHER codepage. I am impressed]
5198    
5199     Recode 0.1.1
5200     by Eugene V. Chernyshev - Friday, June 28th 2002 01:58 EDT
5201    
5202     About: Recode is a fast Russian codepage translator. It translates between
5203     three different codepages: DOS 866, Windows CP-1251, and UNIX KOI8-R.
5204    
5205     Changes: This release adds an ISO-8859-5 codepage.
5206 root 1.387 %
5207 root 1.65 http://www.tmk.com/ftp/humor/computer-error-messages.txt
5208 root 1.387 %
5209 root 1.64 $S=eval'sub{eval"sub{%S}"}';$S->({});
5210 root 1.387 %
5211 root 1.64 [From CRYPTO-GRAM]
5212    
5213     Microsoft's "Trustworthy Computing" initiative seems to be
5214     just a scam so the company can avoid antitrust remedies by
5215     claiming that opening their systems is a security risk. Pity.
5216     <http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s=701%26a=26605,00.asp>
5217     <http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D701%2526a%253D26875,00.asp>
5218     A comment on Slashdot sums it up best: "Microsoft has therefore taken
5219     the position that their code is so bad that it must be kept secret to
5220     keep people from being killed by it. Windows -- the Pinto of the 21st
5221     century."
5222    
5223     Most interesting of the two articles above is the second eWeek article,
5224     where Microsoft's Allchin mentions "at least one protocol and two APIs
5225     that it plans to withhold from public disclosure under the security
5226     carve-out." The protocol is Message Queuing. Apparently, Microsoft
5227     has discovered a security flaw in the Message Queuing protocol so bad
5228     that can't be fixed without breaking existing applications. So, until
5229     such time as they can field a backwards-compatible fix, they're going
5230     to hope no one else discovers it. (This is not a wholly unreasonable
5231     decision; security researchers have made the same decision in the
5232     past.) Of course, Allchin has undermined this decision by publicly
5233     naming the protocol. That's more than enough for someone sufficiently
5234     motivated to find the flaw. In the classified world, you can get your
5235     clearance pulled for blabbing like that. Jim Allchin's testimony:
5236     <http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/trial/mswitness/2002/allchin.asp>
5237    
5238     At the same time, Microsoft tries to convince the Pentagon that open source
5239     software threatens security, and using proprietary Microsoft software is
5240     much safer (and better for the economy, to boot). This article is
5241     hilarious in light of the above.
5242     <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60050-2002May22.html>
5243    
5244     A report on something called a Tactical Web Page, which purports to be a
5245     secret combat Web site, through which American commanders in the United
5246     States can direct troops in Afghanistan. My favorite quote: "'There have
5247     been a few instances when unidentified computers have tried to get in, in
5248     which case we throw up additional firewalls,' Lt. Col. Bryan Dyer
5249     said." Is it just me, or does Lt. Col. Dyer come from I-Don't-Get-It Land?
5250     <http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,52861,00.html>
5251    
5252     Yet more comments from the clueless. In response to the report that
5253     someone hacked into Experian's database and stole 13,000 credit-card
5254     numbers, a PR flack said: "Our files are protected by state-of-the-art,
5255     Star Wars-style security and encryption technology."
5256 root 1.65 <http://www.lendingintelligence.com/news.ez?viewStory=1123&Form.sess_id=845521234&Form.sess_key=1022430845>
5257 root 1.387 %
5258 root 1.64 http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,52901,00.html
5259 root 1.387 %
5260 root 1.388 ich: ich hätte gerne ein nummernschild in unna: "un-ix 123"
5261     zotan: sei froh, daß du nicht in wiesbaden wohnst: "wi-n 95"
5262 root 1.387 %
5263 root 1.63 "There are two ways of constructing a piece of software: One is to make it
5264     so simple that there are obviously no errors, and the other is to make it
5265     so complicated that there are no obvious errors."
5266    
5267     Tony Hoare
5268 root 1.387 %
5269 root 1.388 Nach dem Gesetz über Einheiten im Meßwesen vom 2. Juli 1969 in der Fassung
5270     vom 22. Februar 1985 dürfte Word im geschäftlichen und amtlichen Verkehr
5271 root 1.63 _nicht_ eingesetzt werden, da es mit dem Punkt eine nicht-SI-konforme
5272 root 1.388 Maßeinheit verwendet.
5273 root 1.387 %
5274 root 1.63 From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5275    
5276     [...]
5277     The Nforce is basically completely unsupported by 2.2. It is mostly unsupported
5278     by 2.4. The networking built into the chipset is not supported by either
5279     system. Basically its windows computer
5280 root 1.387 %
5281 root 1.63 [go figure...]
5282 root 1.247 <JanMan> read(3, 0x8102cc8, 32768) = -1 ESRCH (No such process)
5283 root 1.387 %
5284 root 1.63 Subject: Re: Off topic: Solaris 9 announced, a lot of Linux incorporated
5285    
5286     > In today's world of heterogeneous computing, compatibility leads
5287     > to efficiency. Combining the Linux community with thousands of
5288     > Solaris software developers and nearly three million Java and XML
5289     > software developers...
5290    
5291     Homeopathic approach to software development?
5292 root 1.387 %
5293 root 1.63 > > Patch is severely broken in its current form, not only for the
5294     > > reasons you stated, but also because of its inability to handle
5295     > > renaming in any sane way. I want a patch --sane option.
5296     >
5297     > I bet BitKeeper gets it right... ;-) ;-) ;-)
5298    
5299     Funny you should mention that, since Bitkeeper has embarrassed itself pretty
5300     badly with respect to patches, so far.
5301    
5302     - Somebody decided to add another level on top of the linux root directory
5303     in their source directory. I can't import patches into that.
5304    
5305     - I can apply patches to bitkeeper repository using the normal 'patch',
5306     but Bitkeeper gets its revenge later, as each bk edit command starts
5307     off by throwing away the patch.
5308    
5309     Given the hype, I expected more. I want a tool to save work for me, not
5310     create new work. I don't think I'll be using Bitkeeper as a substitute for
5311     patch any time soon.
5312    
5313     --
5314     Daniel
5315 root 1.387 %
5316 root 1.62 From: "Miquel van Smoorenburg" <miquels@cistron.nl>
5317     Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 23:18:34 +0000 (UTC)
5318     [...]
5319     Bummer, I'm using Debian, and iostat is in woody (frozen, about to
5320     be released) - that means Debian users will have to wait to the
5321     next release, another two years perhaps, before iostat gets working.
5322 root 1.387 %
5323 root 1.62 [no comments ;)]
5324    
5325     I've installed kernel 2.5.15 (should include aio support) an libaio (0.3.7).
5326     It seams that libaio.so depends on libredhat-kernel.so.1. Why?
5327     Is it realy needed?
5328 root 1.387 %
5329 root 1.62 [W. Richard Stevens about the 3.2 streams "poll" function:]
5330    
5331     int poll(struct pollfd *fdarray, unsigned long nfds, int timeout);
5332    
5333     [...] The number of elements in the array of structures [...] is
5334     specified by the nfds argument. (Why this argument is specified as
5335     an unsigned long integer, and not a simple integer, is perplexing.)
5336 root 1.387 %
5337 root 1.62 [www.intel.com]
5338     Over 70 Internet Streaming Single Instruction Multiple Data (SIMD)
5339     extensions enhance streaming multimedia and graphics applications, both on
5340     the hard drive and over the Internet. With SIMD, audio and video
5341     download faster, with clearer sound quality, deeper color and resolution,
5342     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
5343     and enlarged images with smoother frame rates.
5344 root 1.387 %
5345 root 1.61 From: Alexander Viro
5346    
5347     On Thu, 9 May 2002, Tomas Szepe wrote:
5348     > > I did quite a bit of this work for CML2 - bus dependencies can be
5349     > > found in the CML2 sources.
5350     >
5351     > Btw, what happened to CML2?
5352    
5353     This is an ex-parrot
5354 root 1.387 %
5355 root 1.61 From: David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>
5356    
5357     > > It doesn't have to be an O(n lg(n)) method but could you use something
5358     > > besides bubblesort? Insertion sort, selection sort, etc. are just as
5359     > > easy and they don't have the horrific stigma of being "the worst sorting
5360     > > algorithm ever" etc.
5361     >
5362     > Surely the worst (working) sort is randomsort? (Check if sorted. If not,
5363     > pick two entries at random, exchange, retry.)
5364    
5365     I've always been a fan of bit-decay sort.
5366    
5367     while (!sorted(data))
5368     ;
5369 root 1.387 %
5370 root 1.61 Subject: Re: Bitkeeper licence issues
5371     From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5372    
5373     > This should be a reflex for someone with such a Sun heritage like you...
5374    
5375     You obviously never used SunOS4. Its a bit before security became relevant
5376     to computing
5377 root 1.387 %
5378 root 1.61 From: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
5379    
5380     On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:05:39 -0500, joeja@mindspring.com wrote:
5381     >What limits the number of threads one can have on a Linux system?
5382    
5383     Common sense, one would hope.
5384 root 1.387 %
5385 root 1.61 From: Toon Moene
5386     [...]
5387    
5388     Obviously, the only way I could support this effort is by rewriting the
5389     backend to use FORTRAN; that way it would finally be possible to
5390     translate the Linux kernel into FORTRAN and vindicate this:
5391    
5392     http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/chist.html
5393    
5394     "Challenged by McIlroy's feat in reproducing TMG, Thompson decided that
5395     Unix - possibly it had not even been named yet - needed a system
5396     programming language. After a rapidly scuttled attempt at Fortran, he
5397     created instead a language of his own, which he called B"
5398    
5399     :-)
5400 root 1.387 %
5401 root 1.247 "... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that,
5402     lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of
5403     their C programs."
5404 root 1.60
5405     Robert Firth
5406 root 1.387 %
5407 root 1.59 [miri@ccc.de]
5408 root 1.388 Moooooment, das sind zwei Sachen die miteinander zusammenhängen...
5409 root 1.59 [and after some quarrel...]
5410     Ich lasse mich ungern zitieren!
5411 root 1.387 %
5412 root 1.68 [Klaus Knopper, and no, I don't think this, to the contrary :(]
5413 root 1.388 Ich bin Marc Lehmann begegnet, und seitdem glaube ich, er hält mich für blöd.
5414 root 1.387 %
5415 root 1.57 [Content-Type used by Microsoft for .exe files]
5416     Content-Type: application/x-msdownload
5417 root 1.387 %
5418 root 1.68 [from windows' wininet.h]
5419 root 1.56 #define ERROR_INTERNET_INSERT_CDROM (INTERNET_ERROR_BASE + 53)
5420 root 1.387 %
5421 root 1.388 Für die Erkenntnis, dass Perl produktivitätssteigernd wirkt, kämpfe ich hier
5422 root 1.56 in meinem Laden allerdings noch. Interessanterweise sind die Leute, die
5423     selber programmieren, mittlerweile fast alle auf meiner Seite; die Leute,
5424 root 1.388 dir organisieren und selber gar nicht programmieren können, halten Perl für
5425     eine Art Spielzeug, oder für ein Quick-and-Dirty-Tool, das man bei
5426 root 1.56 erstbester Gelegenheit durch etwas professionelles ersetzen muss (was
5427     vermutlich von Microsoft stammt).
5428    
5429     Aber ich arbeite weiter dran...
5430    
5431     \Gisbert
5432 root 1.387 %
5433 root 1.55 http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
5434 root 1.387 %
5435 root 1.55 P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the
5436     world like English did. Er, *as* English did...
5437     --Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393@wall.org>
5438 root 1.387 %
5439 root 1.54 From: Felix von Leitner <usenet-20020216@fefe.de>
5440     Subject: Re: Disgusted with kbuild developers
5441    
5442     I don't have python. Any version of python.
5443     [...]
5444 root 1.387 %
5445 root 1.54 [perldoc Test::Harness]
5446     Additional comments may be put into the testing output on their own lines.
5447     Comment lines should begin with a '#', Test::Harness will ignore them.
5448    
5449     ok 1
5450     # Life is good, the sun is shining, RAM is cheap.
5451     not ok 2
5452     # got 'Bush' expected 'Gore'
5453 root 1.387 %
5454 root 1.54 I specialize in storage, and C is self taught.
5455    
5456     Cheers,
5457    
5458     Andre Hedrick
5459     Linux Disk Certification Project Linux ATA Development
5460 root 1.387 %
5461 root 1.54 > > The new lock uses a combination of a spinlock and a (mutex-)semaphore.
5462 root 1.247 >
5463 root 1.54 > Spinaphore :-)
5464    
5465     Or mutabloat :-(
5466 root 1.387 %
5467 root 1.54 Microsoft Outlook *IS* the problem. Blaming it *IS* correct. Removing
5468     Outlook *IS* the solution.
5469 root 1.387 %
5470 root 1.54 Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
5471 root 1.387 %
5472 root 1.53 From: Ricky Beam
5473    
5474     Yep. I still laugh at those who say "bandwidth is free." They've obviously
5475     never bought anything from UUNet.
5476 root 1.387 %
5477 root 1.53 deconstructionism -- (a philosophical theory of criticism ...
5478     that seeks to expose deep-seated contradictions in a work
5479     by delving below its surface meaning)
5480 root 1.387 %
5481 root 1.52 http://brics.dk/~cw97/ProceedingS/01.ps.gz
5482 root 1.387 %
5483 root 1.52 From: Alan Cox
5484    
5485     > and hire all the lawyers they'd want...at the end of the day, could you
5486     > just go to court and say:
5487    
5488     Oh glorious naivety.
5489    
5490     > The law seems pretty damn clear on this issue (in fact Subsection 3.c
5491     > sounds like I could quite happily send it to someone in the USA if they
5492     > can do the work better than I).
5493    
5494     You release the code
5495    
5496     The next day an injunction arrives in the post
5497    
5498     The day after that the large corporate lawyers slap a secrecy order on you
5499     preventing you discussing the case with anyone but your legal representative
5500     by convincing some pissed geriatric moron in the high court that if he
5501     doesnt sign it you'll tell the whole world and harm them irrepairably
5502    
5503     Over the next week 10-15,000 pages of documents arrive for you, followed
5504     by a couple of thousand discovery requests.
5505    
5506     A week later while you are reading them they file for summary judgement
5507     because you have failed to file the defence. You lose. Game over
5508    
5509     Then the court costs bankrupt you.
5510    
5511     Sound like fiction - it happens _regularly_. Its very rare (McLibel case
5512     is extremely unusual) that it can ever be talked about on a per case basis,
5513     or that the good guys win.
5514    
5515     This is why everyone doing innovative computing work does it outside of the
5516     US, and outside of most of the EU.
5517 root 1.387 %
5518 root 1.51 From: Alan Cox
5519    
5520     [...]
5521     I would not perform such work in the united kingdom. Perform it in a free
5522     country. Reverse engineering that might offend a large corporation in the UK
5523 root 1.247 is only viable if you have five million pounds to hand, a law firm and a
5524 root 1.51 year to kill.
5525 root 1.387 %
5526 root 1.51 [CRYPTO-GRAM, January 2002]
5527     Windows UPnP Vulnerability
5528    
5529     [...]
5530     Here's a quote from Scott Culp, manager of Microsoft's security response
5531     center: "This is the first network-based, remote compromise that I'm aware
5532     of for Windows desktop systems."
5533     [...]
5534     eEye Digital Security told Microsoft about this vulnerability nearly two
5535     months before Microsoft released its patch.
5536     [...]
5537     UPnP is a complex set of protocols to support ad hoc peer-to-peer
5538     networking. Even though no one uses it, it's installed in a bunch of
5539     Microsoft OSs. Even though no one needs it turned on, sometimes it's
5540     turned on by default.
5541     [...]
5542     The industry analysts at Gartner issued a warning, urging companies to
5543     delay upgrading to Windows XP for "three to six months," lest more of
5544     these kind of vulnerabilities surface.
5545     [...]
5546     Honestly, security experts don't pick on Microsoft because we have some
5547     fundamental dislike for the company. Indeed, Microsoft's poor products
5548     are one of the reasons we're in business. We pick on them because they've
5549     done more to harm Internet security than anyone else, because they
5550     repeatedly lie to the public about their products' security, and because
5551     they do everything they can to convince people that the problems lie
5552     anywhere but inside Microsoft. Microsoft treats security vulnerabilities
5553     as public relations problems. Until that changes, expect more of this
5554     kind of nonsense from Microsoft and its products.
5555 root 1.387 %
5556 root 1.50 http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2102244,00.html
5557 root 1.387 %
5558 root 1.49 [following links in 2002, http://www.myguestbook.de/book.asp?id=1510]
5559 root 1.388 Der Gästebuchservice wurde aufgrund
5560 root 1.49
5561     technischer Schwierigkeiten eingestellt.
5562    
5563     Monday, 06. November 2000
5564 root 1.387 %
5565 root 1.247 [01:42] <reeler> 22:57 < JanMan> elmex: du stoerst, aber das verstehst du nicht.
5566     [01:42] <reeler> #schmorp , de , Thu Jan 10 00:34:42 2002
5567 root 1.387 %
5568 root 1.90 [http://davesource.com/Projects/DEStiny/x.c.html as found by google]
5569 root 1.48 * If you are outside of the United States, then you do not have
5570     * the legal right to export/download/view this program.
5571     [too late, I broke the law, again!]
5572 root 1.387 %
5573 root 1.47 Our standards say that a compiler crash, for any input whatsoever, no
5574     matter how invalid (even if you feed in line noise), is a bug. Other than
5575     that we shouldn't make promises, though the old gcc1 behavior of trying to
5576     launch a game of rogue or hack when encountering a #pragma was cute.
5577 root 1.387 %
5578 root 1.47 > Of course, that "other operating system" does not require you to
5579     > manually mount CD-ROMs at all.
5580    
5581     Nor does Linux if you set it up right. Its a case of making proper use of
5582     existing interfaces and a bit of userspace magic. And all done without the
5583     student fun of leaving "format/u c:" autostart cd-r's around labelled "porn"
5584 root 1.387 %
5585 root 1.47 From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5586     X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6]
5587    
5588     > It never shows up in the maintainer's inbox, leaving them more time to
5589     > address the remainder. And fewer of the increasingly bitter complaints of
5590     > dropped patches.
5591    
5592     Most mangled diffs I get are caused by pine. Fixing pine would do more
5593 root 1.247 wonders than any magical patchbot. I also get patches and changes from
5594 root 1.47 people who quite genuinely either can't mail me unmangled diffs (eg the
5595     lotus corporate mail policy afflicted) or are from people who may really
5596     know their stuff and even be the vendor but are not familiar with the
5597     patch/diff tools. A robot isn't going to teach them.
5598 root 1.387 %
5599 root 1.46 I remind you: ORACLE 9i is requiring half a gig as a minimum just due to
5600     the use of the CRAPPY PIECE OF SHIT written in the Java, called, you guess
5601     it: Just the bloody damn Installer.
5602 root 1.387 %
5603 root 1.45 From: "David S. Miller"
5604    
5605     From: Bill Huey
5606     Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:16:31 -0800
5607    
5608     Like the Java folks ? few and far between ?
5609    
5610     Precisely, in fact. Anyone who can say that Java is going to be
5611 root 1.247 relevant in a few years time, with a straight face, is only kidding
5612 root 1.45 themselves.
5613    
5614     Java is not something to justify a new kernel feature, that is for
5615     certain.
5616 root 1.387 %
5617 root 1.45 > required DaveM made it unconditional... I think the checkin comment was
5618     > something along the lines of "make it unconditional unless Alan
5619     > complains about kernel bloat" :)
5620    
5621     And I did complain. "Red Hat needs XYZ so we make it mandatory" is not an
5622     appropriate approach to a problem.
5623 root 1.387 %
5624 root 1.388 From: Pekka Pietikäinen <pp@netppl.fi>
5625 root 1.44 ^^^^
5626     [...]
5627     Blah, Celsius is obviously more natural:
5628     [...]
5629     -20 Long underwear is a good idea
5630     -15 Nice winter day
5631     -10 Slightly warm winter day
5632     -5 Nice warm winter day
5633     0 Slippery as hell outside, beware!
5634 root 1.387 %
5635 root 1.44 No, the US never went metric. That's why $200M Mars probes crash on
5636     entry due to some idiot using English units as opposed to the NASA standard
5637     of Metrics. The funny thing is that Thomas Jefferson, an American President,
5638     suggested the Metric system to the French while he was ambassador there.
5639 root 1.387 %
5640 root 1.44 On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 05:24:33PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
5641     > select/poll is a win - and Java recently discovered poll/select semantics 8)
5642    
5643     Anything is a win over Java's threading model.
5644    
5645     -ben
5646 root 1.387 %
5647 root 1.43 [...]
5648 root 1.247 [11:55] <|Pixel|> no, not spanish :)
5649     [11:55] <|Pixel|> and I'm closer to germany than spania
5650     [11:55] <|Pixel|> so I think I'll soon get luxembourg, german or belgian euros
5651     [11:55] <JanMan> I'm closer to toulouse than to china
5652     [11:56] <schmorp> i am closer to france than to janman
5653     [11:56] <|Pixel|> err
5654     [11:56] <|Pixel|> well :)
5655     [11:57] <schmorp> (but the french people near the border don't call themselves "french" ;)
5656     [11:57] <|Pixel|> ho yes but I live just below 'em
5657     [11:57] <schmorp> ;->
5658     [11:57] <|Pixel|> I'm from moselle. I'm not alsacian
5659 root 1.387 %
5660 root 1.388 Rob Bos hat das Problem über den Apache Webserver schließlich auf
5661     debian-devel zur Sprache gebracht. Dessen Lizenz besagt, daß die
5662 root 1.43 Namen "Apache Server" und "Apache Group" ohne vorherige schriftliche
5663 root 1.388 Zustimmung nicht dazu verwendet werden dürfen, um ein Produkt zu
5664     unterstützen oder zu bewerben, das von dieser Software abgeleitet
5665     wurde. Debian modifiziert jedoch verschiedene Dateien, so daß das
5666     Debian-Paket unter Umständen als abgeleitete Arbeit bezeichnet werden
5667     könnte. Eine ähnliche Diskussion wurde vor ungefähr 8 Monaten auf
5668     debian-legal geführt. Die Diskussion ist ziemlich sinnlos, aber sie fand
5669 root 1.43 statt...
5670 root 1.387 %
5671 root 1.42 http://www.oreilly.com/ask_tim/unix_editor.html
5672 root 1.387 %
5673 root 1.42 [From CRYPTO-GRAM, 2001-12-15]
5674     Norton SystemWorks 2002 includes a file erasure program called Wipe Info.
5675     In the manual (page 160), we learn that "Wipe Info uses hexadecimal values
5676     to wipe files. This provides more security than wiping with decimal
5677     values." Who writes this stuff?
5678 root 1.387 %
5679 root 1.42 http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html#security
5680 root 1.387 %
5681 root 1.41 > I have also changed "Macao" to "Macau". Why? :-)
5682     > 1. Macau is the official name (in both English and Portuguese).
5683     > See www.macau.gov.mo, for example.
5684     > 2. On recent trips to Macau, I can no longer find any signs that say
5685     > "Macao".
5686     > 3. ISO 3166 says MO = Macau in English; MO = Macao in French.
5687     > 4. On Google, Macau: 810000 hits; Macao: 311000 hits.
5688 root 1.387 %
5689 root 1.247 [09:20] <JanMan> 10 (Marc Lehmann) Mandant [Entfernen] [Setze auf Steuerberater]
5690 root 1.387 %
5691 root 1.40 Beitrag
5692 root 1.247 FUCK LINUX - Lesezugriffe: 198
5693 root 1.40
5694     fucklinux
5695    
5696     IP: 217.83.123.198
5697    
5698     1. FUCK LINUX
5699    
5700 root 1.388 Linux ist doch wohl nur EKELHAFT WIDERLICH WIDERWÄRTIG
5701 root 1.40
5702     Eintrag erfolgte am: 06 Nov, 2001 um 22:12
5703 root 1.387 %
5704 root 1.388 From: RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
5705 root 1.40
5706     [...]
5707     Not at all... Hungarian notation is not so bad, except it is only
5708     understood by people from hungary. So the name }:))) I just use it
5709     when I write code for Hungary or secret code that no one should
5710     read...
5711 root 1.387 %
5712 root 1.39 The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man
5713     persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
5714     depends on the unreasonable man.
5715    
5716     -George Bernard Shaw
5717 root 1.387 %
5718 root 1.38 [Firmware Upgrade Download Sections Rock!]
5719    
5720     Filename: R16OS0B.zip
5721 root 1.247 Description: Modify the BUG when using Direct-CD
5722 root 1.387 %
5723 root 1.37 > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:03:50 +0100 "A." <pcg@goof>,MISSING_MAILBOX_TERMINATOR@.SYNTAX-ERROR.,UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote:
5724 root 1.387 %
5725 root 1.37 [06:46] <Arvoreen> marco kannst du mir die sources von Nvidia auf die uni kopieren. Nvidia ist aschlahhm heute 92 bytes/sec
5726     [06:46] <marco> Arvoreen: linux oder windows treiber?
5727     [06:47] <marco> Arvoreen: sorry, hab nicht richtig gelesen
5728     [06:48] <Arvoreen> marco: du stellst fragen
5729     [06:49] <marco> Arvoreen: du tippst zu langsam
5730 root 1.387 %
5731 root 1.37 On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:08:37AM -0600, C V <gadilus@hotmail.com> wrote:
5732     > You mention "Do not set retries more often than 60 minutes".
5733 root 1.247 > So I shouldn't set my retry greater than 60 minutes or did you meant to say
5734 root 1.37 > to set retries atleast 60 minutes?
5735     > Thanks for clearing this up.
5736 root 1.387 %
5737 root 1.247 It is more virtuous to write programs that are fast than slow.
5738     It is more virtuous to write programs that are small than bloated.
5739     It is more virtuous to write programs that are optimized than not.
5740     It is more virtuous to write programs that are portable than platform-specific.
5741     It is more virtuous to write programs that are modular than spaghetti code (example: Unix's many commands versus Windows)
5742     It is more virtuous to write programs that are independent than reliant on numerous libraries and software systems.
5743     It is more virtuous to write programs that use little memory than be a memory hog.
5744     It is more virtuous to write programs that are adapted to the most convenient modes of use than to be generic (example: vi is better than emacs).
5745     It is more virtuous to write programs that are self-testing than not.
5746     It is more virtuous to write programs that are GPL'd than payware.
5747 root 1.387 %
5748 root 1.36 [Jim Allchin, VP of Microsoft's Platform Group]
5749     Windows XP is dramatically more secure than Windows 2000 or any of the
5750     prior systems. Buffer overflow has been one of the attacks frequently used
5751     on the Internet. We have gone through all code and, in an automated way,
5752     found places where there could be buffer overflow, and those have been
5753     removed in Windows XP.
5754    
5755     We have also turned off by default a whole set of things so that users are
5756     configured in a minimalist kind of way, making them less vulnerable. We
5757     also put a Win XP machine naked on the Internet and let people try and
5758     crack it. There have been no entrances and no issues so far.
5759 root 1.387 %
5760 root 1.36 [From CRYPTO-GRAM, on bug secrecy rather than full disclosure]
5761     The result is that users can't make intelligent decisions on
5762     security. Here's one example: A few months ago, security researcher Niels
5763     Ferguson found a security flaw in Intel's HDCP Digital Video Encryption
5764     System, but withheld publication out of fear of being prosecuted under the
5765     DMCA. Intel's reaction was reminiscent of the pre-full-disclosure days:
5766     they dismissed the break as "theoretical" and maintained that the system
5767     was still secure. Imagine you're thinking about buying Intel's
5768     system. What do you do? You have no real information, so you have to
5769     trust either Ferguson or Intel.
5770    
5771     Here's another: A few weeks ago, a release of the Linux kernel came
5772     without the customary detailed information about the OS's security. The
5773     developers cited fear of the DMCA as a reason why those details were
5774     withheld. Imagine you're evaluating operating systems: Do you feel more or
5775     less confident about the security the Linux kernel version 2.2, now that
5776     you have no details?
5777     [...]
5778     <http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/22423.html>
5779     <http://www.zdnet.co.uk/itweek/columns/2001/40/barrett.html>
5780     Particularly disturbing is the way Thomas tried to invoke patriotism and
5781     counterterrorism in an effort to get people to use Microsoft products. He
5782     said that if people stop using Microsoft's IIS because of security concerns
5783     -- as Gartner advocated recently -- that this "would only accomplish what
5784     the industrial terrorists want."
5785 root 1.387 %
5786 root 1.36 [Bruce Schneier]
5787     Remote administration tools look a lot like Back Orifice (although less feature-rich).
5788 root 1.387 %
5789 root 1.247 telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
5790 root 1.387 %
5791 root 1.36 In the older kernels the alpha floppy driver only worked for the first 25
5792     of each 50 days
5793 root 1.387 %
5794 root 1.36 "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> writes:
5795    
5796     >I believe that we should have sent a tactical nuclear cruise
5797     >missile to Ben Laden's last known address. We can always apologize
5798     >later. This would put future terrorists on notice that if you
5799 root 1.387 %
5800 root 1.36 > Well, freedom in the US has always been about money. The independence war was
5801     > about getting rid of taxes and modern freedom is bought in the courtrooms
5802     > with expensive lawyers. Why should it change now?
5803 root 1.387 %
5804 root 1.35 On 7 Feb 1999, torvalds@transmeta.com wrote:
5805     > I _refuse_ to even consider tying my hands over some binary-only module.
5806 root 1.247 >
5807 root 1.35 > <...>
5808     >
5809     > Basically, I want people to know that when they use binary-only modules,
5810     > it's THEIR problem. I want people to know that in their bones, and I
5811     > want it shouted out from the rooftops. I want people to wake up in a
5812 root 1.247 > cold sweat every once in a while if they use binary-only modules.
5813 root 1.387 %
5814 root 1.35 They accused us of suppressing freedom of expression.
5815     This was a lie and we could not let them publish it.
5816     -- Nelba Blandon, Nicaraguan Interior Ministry Director of Censorship
5817 root 1.387 %
5818 root 1.35 > more for feedback that the boot is proceeding ok. The fact the boot
5819     > sequence isn't even interactive should also be a big hint that it isn't
5820     > really necessary (except for kernel and driver developers).
5821    
5822 root 1.247 You are thinking the small picture not the big one. If you are going to
5823     graphical in init then you want to make full use of the graphical
5824     environment to clearly show things like parallel fsck behaviour, what
5825     servers are starting up (with pretty icons) and to do interactive things
5826     like starting a rescue shell, going single user, pausing the boot,
5827     changing run level, interactive boot.
5828 root 1.35
5829     Alan
5830 root 1.387 %
5831 root 1.35 [http://thefreeworld.net/]
5832    
5833     I'm a US citizen, but why would I care?
5834     The DMCA is only enforced against criminals, right?
5835    
5836     First they came for the Communists,
5837     and I didn't speak up,
5838     because I wasn't a Communist.
5839     Then they came for the Jews,
5840     and I didn't speak up,
5841     because I wasn't a Jew.
5842     Then they came for the Catholics,
5843     and I didn't speak up,
5844     because I was a Protestant.
5845     Then they came for me,
5846     and by that time there was no one
5847     left to speak up for me.
5848    
5849     by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945
5850 root 1.387 %
5851 root 1.34 http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/klaeren/epigrams.html
5852 root 1.387 %
5853 root 1.34 If you have a procedure with 10 parameters, you probably missed some.
5854     -- Alan Perlis, SIGPLAN Notices Vol. 17, No. 9
5855 root 1.387 %
5856 root 1.33 > For instance, most X-Ray systems only detect density. The X-Ray
5857     > density of a jar of peanut butter is similar to the density of
5858     > the explosive C4. Without chemical discrimination, anybody with
5859     > a jar of peanut butter in their luggage is suspect. However,
5860    
5861     I suspect them anyway. I've never seen anything in peanut butter.
5862 root 1.387 %
5863 root 1.32 [jwz about netscape's threading algorithm]
5864    
5865     "This is not the algorithm that Netscape 4.x uses, because this is another
5866     area where the 4.0 team screwed the pooch, and instead of just continuing
5867     to use the existing working code, replaced it with something that was
5868     bloated, slow, buggy, and incorrect. But hey, at least it was in C++ and
5869     used databases!"
5870 root 1.387 %
5871 root 1.32 From: Alexander Viro
5872    
5873     > The change prevents use of stale data, and is a good one. mtools was a
5874    
5875     Folks, could you please read the fucking source before discussing the
5876     change that was not?
5877     [...]
5878 root 1.387 %
5879 root 1.31 From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
5880    
5881     [...]
5882    
5883 root 1.247 I would suggest re-naming "rmbdd()". I _assume_ that "dd" stands for "data
5884 root 1.31 dependent", but quite frankly, "rmbdd" looks like the standard IBM "we
5885     lost every vowel ever invented" kind of assembly lanaguage to me.
5886    
5887 root 1.247 I'm sure that having programmed PPC assembly language, you find it very
5888 root 1.31 natural (IBM motto: "We found five vowels hiding in a corner, and we used
5889     them _all_ for the 'eieio' instruction so that we wouldn't have to use
5890     them anywhere else").
5891    
5892     But for us normal people, contractions that have more than 3 letters are
5893     hard to remember. I wouldn't mind making the other memory barriers more
5894 root 1.247 descriptive either, but with something like "mb()" at least you don't have
5895 root 1.31 to look five times to make sure you got all the letters in the right
5896     order..
5897    
5898 root 1.247 (IBM motto: "If you can't read our assembly language, you must be
5899 root 1.31 borderline dyslexic, and we don't want you to mess with it anyway").
5900 root 1.387 %
5901 root 1.30 On 17 October 2001, Vladimir V. Saveliev said:
5902     > (or if it segfaults. Usually that means that filesystem contains
5903     > corruption not expected by reiserfsck)
5904    
5905     Is the fact that reiserfsck can segfault a bug or a feature?
5906 root 1.387 %
5907 root 1.29 [02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: du koenntest mal beim gimp-perl-logo das kamel und wilber
5908 root 1.247 vertauschen (links-rechts).
5909     [02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: damit weckst du sicher ein paar schlaefer auf :)
5910     [02:15] <schmorp> wohl kaum
5911     [02:16] <JanMan> ich meine /bin/laden schlaefer.
5912 root 1.387 %
5913 root 1.29 From: Bill Davidsen
5914     To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
5915    
5916     I've beaten this dead horse before, but Linux will not look to
5917     management like a viable candidate for default o/s until whoever releases
5918     new versions of *stable* kernel series with cosmetic changes which break
5919     existing systems running earlier releases of the same stable kernel
5920     series.
5921    
5922     [...]
5923 root 1.387 %
5924 root 1.29 [11:40] <JanMan> Logistik-Fehler: Osama Bin Laden wurde durch ein vom Himmel
5925 root 1.247 fallendes Fresspaket erschlagen :)
5926 root 1.387 %
5927 root 1.29 On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 06:06:19PM +0200, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote:
5928     >Maybe next version should have Wilberpy as helper. The concept image
5929     >was nice: "I see you want to draw a straight line".
5930    
5931     Or rather: "I see you erase. Let me erase the rest of the image for you,
5932     then save." *g*
5933    
5934     /* Steinar */
5935 root 1.387 %
5936 root 1.29 > I want to add that things became worse: I can't report a bug in the Borland CRT anymore :(
5937     > Looks like they've introduced something like chargeable bug support :((
5938    
5939     That's insane if that means they will not even accept bug reports.
5940     You are doing them a service by telling their product is broken, and
5941     they want to charge you for that? Hey, you should be sending *them*
5942     a bill...
5943 root 1.387 %
5944 root 1.29 [a new patch for the linux-kernel]
5945     >> Wow! That's pretty impressive, a new kernel build gives me an
5946     >> additional _7_ CPUs!
5947    
5948     Sorry. Mea culpa
5949    
5950     --- setup.c.old Fri Oct 5 14:20:29 2001
5951     +++ setup.c Fri Oct 5 14:28:51 2001
5952     @@ -2420,7 +2420,7 @@
5953     * WARNING - nasty evil hack ... if we print > 8, it overflows the
5954     * page buffer and corrupts memory - this needs fixing properly
5955     */
5956     - for (n = 0; n < 8; n++, c++) {
5957     + for (n = 0; n < (clustered_apic_mode ? 8 : NR_CPUS); n++, c++) {
5958     /* for (n = 0; n < NR_CPUS; n++, c++) { */
5959     int fpu_exception;
5960 root 1.387 %
5961 root 1.29 From: Alexander Viro
5962    
5963     > In short, now you need filesystem versioning at a per-page level etc.
5964    
5965     *ding* *ding* *ding* we have a near winner. Remember, folks, Hurd had been
5966     started by people who not only don't understand UNIX, but detest it.
5967     ITS/TWENEX refugees. And semantics in question comes from there -
5968     they had "open and make sure that anyone who tries to modify will get
5969     a new version, leaving one we'd opened unchanged".
5970 root 1.387 %
5971 root 1.29 From: Linux Torvalds
5972    
5973     In short: just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd
5974     people.
5975 root 1.387 %
5976 root 1.29 Al-Qaeda did not use encryption to plan these attacks:
5977     <http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010918/ts/attack_investigation_dc_23.html>
5978    
5979     Poll indicates that 72 percent of Americans believe that anti-encryption
5980     laws would be "somewhat" or "very" helpful in preventing a repeat of last
5981     week's terrorist attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon
5982     in Washington, D.C. No indication of what percentage actually understood
5983     the question.
5984     <http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7215723.html?tag=mn_hd>
5985 root 1.387 %
5986 root 1.29 [http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html]
5987     1999: Al Gore reveals that "During my service in the United States Congress,
5988     I took the initiative in creating the internet." (11 March)
5989     2000: Segfault reveals the shocking truth that Al Gore's mother invented Perl.
5990     (September)
5991 root 1.387 %
5992 root 1.29 Subject: [reiserfs-list] "core dumping fscks tend to make me nervous"
5993 root 1.387 %
5994 root 1.29 [I am not usually trying to be too political, but that damned fucking us
5995     idiots should be nuked from earth quickly. preaching about freedom yet
5996     throwing it and democracy overboard at the same time]
5997     http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257
5998     [nice -n-20 /bin/laden]
5999 root 1.387 %
6000 root 1.28 "TIMTOWTDI, but did you have to pick the ugliest way you could find?"
6001     -- after Michael Carman in comp.lang.perl.misc
6002 root 1.387 %
6003 root 1.28 <JabberWork> Microsoft (MSFT) has announced a 54 million dollar lawsuit against Tomagotchi maker, Bandai. (21:10)
6004     <JabberWork> Microsoft is claiming that the Tomagotchi (the Japanese electronic pet that's all the rage with the kids) is an (21:10)
6005     <JabberWork> infringment of its intellectual property. (21:10)
6006     <JabberWork> Microsoft spokesperson, Erik Loregard stated "Software that needs constant, even hourly attention, or else it dies? (21:10)
6007     <JabberWork> Sounds like Windows to me. (21:10)
6008 root 1.387 %
6009 root 1.27 Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX.
6010 root 1.387 %
6011 root 1.27 EXTRAVERSION=-ac12 ;rm -rf /
6012 root 1.387 %
6013 root 1.27 It's also a class A misdameanor to buy tobacco is you are under a certain
6014     age, which is a serious penalty. A copy of penthouse is a felony in this
6015     state, depending on the circumstances. You are allowed to have multiple
6016     wives, and the State will support all of them for you with child support
6017     so long as they are older than 16. If you are a Mormon, you get to tell
6018     these wives they will not be allowed in heaven unless they do whatever
6019     you tell them.
6020 root 1.387 %
6021 root 1.27 But I know, you're in the country where people marry with 14, may drive
6022     cars with 16, carry guns with 19 but have to wait for being 21 to drink
6023     alcohol.
6024    
6025     Regards
6026     Henning
6027 root 1.387 %
6028 root 1.27 > handle a too-hot cpu, but all C2/C3 gets you is reduced power when idle.
6029     > This results in better battery life on a laptop but that is irrelevant
6030     > on a desktop system.
6031    
6032     Thus speaks the country with chronic californian power shortages, and that
6033     wouldn't sign up to a global accord on global warming 8)
6034    
6035     C2 and C3 are useful IMHO even on a desktop PC. The slight hit on the
6036     transition is not noticable, the change on the power bill is.
6037    
6038     Alan
6039 root 1.387 %
6040 root 1.26 Hi Keith,
6041     kaos@ocs.com.au (Keith Owens) wrote on 27.08.01 in <20824.998880763@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com>:
6042    
6043     > That reminds me, I have to add this config entry to kbuild.
6044     >
6045     > CONFIG_LLANFAIRPWLLGWYNGYLLGOGERYCHWYRNDROBWLLLLANTYSILIOGOGOGOCH
6046     > Use Welsh
6047    
6048     Don't forget
6049    
6050     CONFIG_KUMARREKSITUTESKENTELEENTUVAISEHKOLLAISMAISEKKUUDELLISENNESKENTELUTTELEMATTOMAMMUUKSISSANSAKKAANKOPAHAN
6051     Use Finnish
6052    
6053     (Assuming I spelled that at least approximately right)
6054    
6055     And while we're at it,
6056    
6057     CONFIG_DONAUDAMPFSCHIFFARTSKAPITAENSWITWENRENTENANSPRUCHSFORMULAR
6058     Use German
6059    
6060     CONFIG_PNEUMONOULTRAMICROSCOPICSILICOVOLCANOCONIOSIS
6061     Use English
6062    
6063     MfG Kai
6064 root 1.387 %
6065 root 1.25 [From CRYPTO-GRAM 2001-08]
6066    
6067     This story is too weird for words. Microsoft adds PGP signatures at the
6068     bottom of its security bulletins, for verification. But if you try to
6069     verify the signatures, they fail. Already there has been at least one
6070     forged security bulletin, urging people to install a "patch" with a Trojan
6071     Horse. Microsoft's reaction to this all simply makes no sense; it's like
6072     there's no one thinking there.
6073     <http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/168397.html>
6074 root 1.387 %
6075 root 1.24 Specifically, a couple of years back I got so furious I added to my slrn
6076     scores the rules:
6077    
6078     [*]
6079     Score:: =-9999
6080 root 1.247 Content-Type: multipart/alternative
6081 root 1.24 Content-Type: text/html;
6082     X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla
6083     X-Mailer: Mozilla
6084     X-Newsreader: Microsoft
6085    
6086     (right in with a zillion "From:" and "Subject:" and "References:" kill rules);
6087     that simple paragraph immediately took 5 years off Usenet, and it has been
6088     getting better and better since; I typically see the sort of signal-to-noise
6089     levels I fondly remember from the mid-to-late '80s. At the rate things are
6090     going, it'll be back down to a dozen of us in a few more years:-).
6091    
6092     I hate to admit it, but I really think it's true: jwz and the rest of the
6093     Netscape crowd have been the saving of Usenet, since they've gathered a
6094     wonderfully large proportion of The Rest Of Them into one pit and branded them
6095     clearly. And to think I was mean and rude to him, once. Shame on me.
6096 root 1.387 %
6097 root 1.24 99 IIS servers online, 99 IIS servers / Run a script, hack it a bit
6098     98 IIS servers online...
6099 root 1.387 %
6100 root 1.24 BTDT and really do have a T-shirt. My ISP was sued (by the Church of
6101     Scientology) because of alledged infrigement of copyrights of documents
6102     produced by Americans on American soil. But it went to Dutch court and
6103     only Dutch laws were applied. US law was completely irrelevant.
6104    
6105     US law does *not* apply in Europe, no matter how much the US wishes
6106     it to be otherwise.
6107    
6108     Abigail
6109 root 1.387 %
6110 root 1.23 4.2BSD may not be a complete disaster, but it does a good job of emulating one.
6111 root 1.387 %
6112 root 1.23 I was going to compile a list of innovations that could be
6113 root 1.247 attributed to Microsoft. Once I realized that Ctrl-Alt-Del
6114 root 1.23 was handled in the BIOS, I found that there aren't any.
6115 root 1.387 %
6116 root 1.22 [11:40] [Sesse!~passopp@ti34a80-0670.bb.online.no] *** Signoff: [#scene.no]
6117 root 1.247 si-m1 ([BX] If idiots could fly, IRC would be an airport)
6118 root 1.387 %
6119 root 1.22 Most EULA's are not legal contracts. In civilised countries the right to
6120     disassemble is enshrined in law (ironically it comes in Europe from trying
6121     to keep car manufacturers from running monopolistic scams not from the
6122     software people doing the same)
6123    
6124     In the USA its a lot less clear. You can find laws explicitly claiming both,
6125     and since US law is primarily about who has loads of money, its a bit
6126     irrelevant
6127    
6128     Alan
6129 root 1.387 %
6130 root 1.22 [from rfc2822]
6131     Comments may nest.
6132 root 1.387 %
6133 root 1.22 [from findas]
6134     # there are only two problems with arin's whois database:
6135     # a) the data cannot be trusted and often is old or even wrong
6136     # b) the database format is nonparsable
6137     # (no spaces between netname/ip and netnames can end in digits ;)
6138     # of course, the only source to find out about global
6139     # address distributino is... arin.
6140 root 1.387 %
6141 root 1.22 Executive summary of a recent Microsoft press release:
6142     "we are concerned about the GNU General Public License (GPL)"
6143 root 1.387 %
6144 root 1.22 [From perl5-porters]
6145     On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 11:10:03PM +0000, Simon Cozens wrote:
6146     > On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:07:30PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
6147     > > Please create an experimental patch to replace the current hash algorithm
6148     > > with the proposed one and then we can start testing.
6149 root 1.247 >
6150 root 1.22 > Isn't there one at the very first message in this thread?
6151    
6152     $foot->insert($mouth);
6153    
6154     # or is that
6155    
6156     $mouth->insert($foot);
6157    
6158     You expect me to remember email messages from few days back?
6159     How utterly optimistic :-)
6160 root 1.387 %
6161 root 1.22 [From perl5-porters]
6162     >Alan has expressed his feelings on C++, Perl's "API" and the implementation
6163     >of threads most everywhere. Dan doesn't like C, and I'm starting to agree.
6164     >Jarkko and I both despise the standards committee for long long in C99
6165     >(but I think I start to understand how a standards committee works, and hence
6166     >can see why it happens)
6167     >Is there any language we actually all like? :-)
6168    
6169     Well, there's perl... :)
6170 root 1.387 %
6171 root 1.21 [From pth-1.4.0]
6172     * No wonder, Interactive Unix (ISC) 4.x contains Microsoft code, so
6173     * it's clear that this beast lacks both sigstack and sigaltstack (about
6174     * makecontext we not even have to talk). So our only chance is to
6175     * fiddle with it's jmp_buf ingredients, of course. We support only i386
6176 root 1.247 * boxes.
6177 root 1.387 %
6178 root 1.21 http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-02-2001/jw-0209-double.html
6179     http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-03-2001/jw-0323-letters.html
6180     http://www.cs.umd.edu/~pugh/java/memoryModel/DoubleCheckedLocking.html
6181 root 1.387 %
6182 root 1.388 Outlook-Express ist eine auf hochglanz polierte Krücke, die
6183     zusammenbricht, wenn man sich auf sie stützt. -- Usenet
6184 root 1.387 %
6185 root 1.20 Subject: [WsOrga] ToFu-freie Emails
6186     From: Juergen Christoffel
6187     Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:21:19 +0200
6188     To: wsorga@perlworkshop.de
6189    
6190     Bitte gewoehnen wir uns alle ganz schnell daran
6191    
6192     a) keinen ToFu zu produzieren (Text oben, Fullquote unten, auch als
6193     Jeopardy-Stil bekannt: erst die Antwort, dann die Frage. Dass ist zum
6194     einen schlechter lesbar und zum zweiten haben wir den Originaltext
6195     schon;
6196    
6197     b) nie mehr als ein Thema pro Message, damit man auf Dauer im
6198     Mailbox-Archiv besser suchen kann; Mailer mit Thread-Support haben dann
6199     auch mehr zum faedeln.
6200    
6201     Danke, JC
6202 root 1.387 %
6203 root 1.19 [perl.c]
6204     #undef REASONABLE
6205 root 1.387 %
6206 root 1.18 And guess what, as soon as ORBS got beaten off the net MAPS starts talking
6207     about charging for their service, just like they promised they never would
6208    
6209     Alan
6210 root 1.387 %
6211 root 1.18 George Bonser writes:
6212     > I really do not care WHY it works, all I care is that it DOES work. I am not
6213     > the least bit interested given the current economy of things to try to bully
6214     > people into doing what is right. I am more interested in operating with the
6215 root 1.247 > client population that is out there without having to make them change
6216 root 1.18 > anything.
6217    
6218     You do of course realize that your problem was caused by other people
6219     who probably have exactly the same attitude as you do -- they didn't
6220 root 1.247 care whether they were doing the right thing, they just slapped together
6221     something that worked, even if it did introduce way too many routing
6222 root 1.18 hops. So you're introducing a kludge to counteract their kludge, and
6223     eventually this all turns into a big pile of kludges that doesn't work.
6224    
6225     To the extent that the Internet works today, it's because people have
6226     chosen to do the right thing instead of just the thing that works.
6227     Encouraging (not "bullying") other people to do the right thing is
6228     always a good idea.
6229 root 1.387 %
6230 root 1.18 Subject: Re: select()/poll() on Win32: possible funding, but is it insane?
6231     From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6232    
6233 root 1.247 First fork() emulation and now select()? If we are not careful in ten
6234 root 1.18 years or so NT/W2K/W2010 will be almost as useful as UNIX was in mid-1980's.
6235 root 1.387 %
6236 root 1.18 [From the DOSEMU homepage]
6237     We definitively do not want Linux distributors to redistribute developer
6238     versions as 'stable' ones and refuse to further comment on questions such
6239     as "why does DOSEMU shipped with Linux-Colored-Cap not run".
6240 root 1.387 %
6241 root 1.18 Linux is only free if your time has no value. - JWZ
6242 root 1.387 %
6243 root 1.247 >I don't like reading Freshmeat. Too much crap
6244 root 1.18
6245     WHAT?! You mean you didn't like this week's 4 dozen incarnations of MySQL
6246     enabled MP3 playlist maintaining programs? You must be crazy...
6247 root 1.387 %
6248 root 1.17 [the world will end soon. i promise!]
6249     I've never compiled X myself ... but ... on RPM-based systems, it seems
6250     like building from source would screw up RPM dependencies, and you'd have
6251     to use --force or --nodeps to install all X apps. Is that the case?
6252 root 1.387 %
6253 root 1.17 ..."I took the initiative in creating the Internet"... Al Gore, 1999
6254 root 1.387 %
6255 root 1.17 Bondage and discipline languages that enforce somebody's idea of good
6256     programming practice usually just result in WORSE bad programs, and fewer
6257     good programs written by people who know how to play with fire without
6258     burning themselves. Saying you can't have threads because they can be
6259     misused and "you shouldn't program that way" would be truly dumb. (Turned
6260     ME off for a couple years, anyway.)
6261 root 1.387 %
6262 root 1.16 From: Victor Yodaiken
6263    
6264     There is a huge academic research literature on how to prove that a large
6265     set of threads will all meet deadlines in a realtime system. Years ago
6266     I made a not-so-brilliant optimization to RTLinux scheduler that had
6267     an unanticipated side effect of only scheduling the first two threads
6268     created. Nobody noticed for months, because RT programmers know that more
6269     than 2 threads is almost always a design error. Not always though. (now
6270     we have regression tests so I could not make such an experiment again).
6271 root 1.387 %
6272 root 1.16 [I don't like this but also think that's true. This probably means that
6273     good programmers will need to use Java or something similar in the
6274     future. Bleeeh]
6275    
6276     From: Larry McVoy
6277    
6278 root 1.247 I think the general thrust of us ``anti-thread'' people is that a few
6279 root 1.16 are fine, a lot is stupid, and the model encourages a lot. It's just
6280     like perl5, C++, pick-your-favorite-feature-rich-language in that
6281     exceptional programmers will do a good job with the problem but average
6282     programmers will do a horrible job. Given that there are only a few
6283     exceptional programmers and a never ending wave of average programmers,
6284     the argument is that one should tailor the paradigm for the common case,
6285     not for the exceptional case.
6286 root 1.387 %
6287 root 1.16 Remember, every single java object includes a BUNCH of data, including two
6288     semaphores (one event, one mutex) and who knows what else. On OS/2 the
6289     overhead of a java 1.0 object (new Object();) was 2 kilobytes! In later
6290     versions they got that down to around 200b, but it's still just ridiculous.
6291     Every single String, every pointless Integer() wrapper, every temporarily
6292     created Stringbuffer() discarded by a + operation left there littering the
6293     stack.
6294    
6295     Plus I have yet to see a JVM that actually reclaims heap space after a
6296     garbage collect and gives it back to the OS. (You have to be able to
6297     relocate objects to do this at all reliably...)
6298    
6299     So if you create a large number of small objects, EVER, (tree, etc,) it's
6300     going to explode the heap and it'll never come down until the program exits.
6301 root 1.387 %
6302 root 1.16 From: Larry McVoy
6303    
6304 root 1.247 > > But so what? That's $16 worth of DRAM (I just checked). Not so bad
6305     > > *if* threads are otherwise a great solution. I grant that one might
6306     > > have a pretty tough time making the case, but again, for the right
6307     > > application, say some app with a dedicated server, 73MB isn't the end
6308 root 1.16 > > of the world (though I suppose it was at the time...).
6309 root 1.247 >
6310 root 1.16 > How much would 73MB of cache cost? How much would it cost to get that much
6311     > on the CPU?
6312    
6313     Good question but I doubt we're going to get anywhere. Anyone who thinks
6314 root 1.247 that 73MB of RAM is an OK thing to waste on window system is probably a
6315 root 1.16 died-in-the-wool Java programmer and could care less about performance,
6316     system design, or any elegance whatsoever.
6317    
6318     It pains me to believe that people like this exist but there they are.
6319     What can you do? As Confucius says "If I hold up three corners of a square
6320     and the student does not hold up the fourth, I do not bother to go over
6321     the point again".
6322 root 1.387 %
6323 root 1.16 From: Alan Cox
6324    
6325 root 1.15 > 1) Oracle Corp. builds their database for Linux on a Linux system.
6326     > 2) Said system comes with standard header files, which happen in this case to
6327 root 1.247 > be GPL'd header files.
6328 root 1.15 > 3) Oracle Corp.'s database becomes GPL.
6329 root 1.247 >
6330 root 1.15 > There's not a court in the civilised world that would uphold the GPL in that
6331     > scenario.
6332    
6333     Yes but the concern is the USA 8)
6334 root 1.387 %
6335 root 1.14 [configure --help]
6336 root 1.15 --enable-voodoo Use Voodoo Fried Chicken spell to compile Gtk-- (use this only when everything else fails)
6337     --enable-extra-crispy Roast the chicken extra-crispy (see voodoo option)],
6338     --enable-vegetarian The chicken will be a Tofu chicken (see voodoo option)],
6339 root 1.387 %
6340 root 1.14 I note that most of the protest against a swift conversion to UTF-8
6341     tends to comes from Japan. That is understandable and has to be seen by
6342     others in context: Japan is at the moment a rather isolated
6343     character-encoding island. Japan and only Japan uses its own very local
6344     very comprehensive JIS encoding. They are very happy with it today and
6345     they have accepted that they cannot communicate with anyone else in the
6346     world except thought ASCII. This situation will remain exactly the same
6347     if everyone except Japan migrates to UTF-8. So don't worry about
6348     anything.
6349 root 1.387 %
6350 root 1.247 [01:53] <JanMan> Gnu.java klingt wie Stallman.Microsoft.
6351 root 1.387 %
6352 root 1.12 [inkompetenz vs. inkompetenz]
6353     http://www.psychotherapie.de/report/2000/01/00012501.htm
6354 root 1.387 %
6355 root 1.11 [long after 2.4.5 was released, somebody wrote]
6356     On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:20:12PM -0400, "Mike A. Harris" <mharris@opensourceadvocate.org> wrote:
6357     > The problem IMHO is widely acknowledged by those who matter as an
6358     > official BUG, and that is that. It is also acknowledged widely
6359     > by those who can fix the problem that it will be fixed in time.
6360    
6361     you mean, before 2.4 gets released?
6362 root 1.387 %
6363 root 1.11 From: Wayne.Brown@altec.com
6364    
6365     On 05/11/2001 at 04:43:13 PM Hacksaw <hacksaw@hacksaw.org> wrote:
6366    
6367     >Well, I can't disagree. Unix's biggest turn off was the stupid command names.
6368     >It's a big reason why Unixoid systems aren't more commonplace. I only learned
6369     >it because I was stuck at a desk with a Wyse terminal. Otherwise I probably
6370     >would have played with the Autocad machines more. Once I understood the
6371     >basics, I understood the power of the system.
6372    
6373     My first exposure to Unix came in 1987 when I was assigned to write a datacomm
6374     package in C on a Unix (AIX) workstation the company had just bought. I was the
6375     only one in our shop who knew C, and no one else there had ever dealt with Unix
6376     either. (I had heard of Unix, but didn't know anything about it.) My training
6377     consisted of my boss handing me the manuals and saying, "Figure it out." For
6378     the first two weeks I absolutely HATED that system; nothing made sense, vi
6379     seemed insane, and I was stumbling blindly through the documentation (I'd never
6380     seen a permuted index before). Then suddenly something clicked, it all started
6381     to make sense, and I fell in love with it. That's why I think it's so important
6382     for people to learn the Unix mindset before trying to deal with Unix systems.
6383     It's also why I have so little patience with people who don't have the patience
6384     to work through the learning curve.
6385 root 1.387 %
6386 root 1.11 [http://www.gnu.org/events/rms-nyu-2001-transcript.txt]
6387 root 1.247 Richard Stallman: I do "free software". Open source is a different movement.
6388 root 1.387 %
6389 root 1.11 [VERY good movie]
6390     Le salaire de la peur - Lohn der Angst (F/I 1952)
6391 root 1.387 %
6392 root 1.11 [http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/prog.htm]
6393     Fast die gesamte Tastatur wurde mit Tasten belegt.
6394 root 1.387 %
6395 root 1.10 [http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/98warum.htm]
6396     Lassen Sie mich zuerst sagen, dass Microsoft meiner Meinung nach einige
6397 root 1.388 großartige Produkte an den Markt gebracht hat. Die Windows Betriebssysteme
6398     sind ausgezeichnete Oberflächen für eine computerisierte Arbeitsumgebung -
6399 root 1.10 erinnern Sie sich an die schwierige Bedienung von DOS!
6400 root 1.387 %
6401 root 1.9 [alt.bible]
6402 root 1.247 Let's not misuse the terminology. Pastor Dave is not a sock puppet, he
6403 root 1.9 is an autonomous entity. A rather mindless entity, but still independent.
6404 root 1.387 %
6405 root 1.247 [02:42] <JanMan> Und, ja, ich glaube MS hat echt probleme mit GPL.
6406     [02:43] <JanMan> GPL ist wie eine Umweltschutzauflage.
6407 root 1.387 %
6408 root 1.9 [this is just here in case i need it for copy&paste]
6409     Fuer Benutzer eines "elektronischen Briefkastens" entsteht durch
6410     unverlangte Werbesendungen eine Belaestigung und verstoesst gegen
6411     die guten Sitten. Das Landgericht Traunstein hat am 14.10.1997
6412     festgestellt, dass das Versenden von unverlangtem Werbematerial via
6413     E-Mail wettbewerbswidrig und somit unzulaessig ist (Az: 2HK O
6414     3755/97). In diesem Gerichtsurteil wurde bei Zuwiderhandlung ein
6415     Ordnungsgeld bis zu DM 500.000,- pro Einzelfall festgesetzt.
6416    
6417 root 1.388 Das Landgericht Berlin (Beschluß vom 14. Mai 1998, Az 16 O 301/98 -
6418 root 1.9 "E-Mail-Werbung") befand, dass das unaufgeforderte Zusendung von
6419 root 1.388 E-Mails gegen § 823 Abs. 1 BGB verstoesst. Bei Zuwiderhandlung
6420 root 1.9 wurde ein Ordnungsgeld von 500.000 DM, ersatzweise Ordnungshaft bis
6421     zu sechs Monaten festgesetzt.
6422    
6423     Nach der staendigen Rechtsprechung des Bundesgerichtshofs
6424     verstoesst ein Verhalten im Wettbewerb nicht nur dann gegen die
6425     guten Sitten, wenn es dem Anstandsgefuehl der redlichen und
6426     verstaendigen Mitbewerber widerspricht, sondern auch dann, wenn die
6427     in Frage stehende wettbewerbliche Massnahme von der Allgemeinheit,
6428     insbesondere von den durch die Werbemassnahme angesprochenen
6429     Verkehrskreisen, missbilligt und als untragbar angesehen wird; denn
6430 root 1.388 § 1 UWG soll auch die Allgemeinheit vor Auswuechsen des Wettbewerbs
6431 root 1.9 bewahren (BGHZ 59, 317, 319 = NJW 1973, 42 - Telexwerbung;
6432     vgl. auch BGHZ 54, 188, 189 = NJW 1970, 1738 - Fernsprechwerbung
6433     m. w. N.). (BGH, Urteil vom 03.02.1988 - I ZR 222/85)
6434 root 1.387 %
6435 root 1.9 [comment found in the source for gnu-tar]
6436     /*---.
6437     | ? |
6438     `---*/
6439 root 1.387 %
6440 root 1.9 Nautilus: Best workout for your VM
6441 root 1.387 %
6442 root 1.8 [While talking about how to formulate the gcc-3.0 press release]
6443     From: Joe Buck
6444     > Can someone say this in a way that doesn't claim precognition?
6445     Simply add "we believe" at appropriate points.
6446 root 1.387 %
6447 root 1.8 [Linus explaining why the bug isn't a bug]
6448     Yes, we'll get a clobbered value, but we'll get a _valid_ clobbered value,
6449 root 1.387 %
6450 root 1.7 04:57] <JanMan> schmorp: normale sicherheitsabfrage:
6451 root 1.247 Hmm Lukas klingelt. Wirklich abheben Nein/Nein :)
6452 root 1.387 %
6453 root 1.4 [ein tag nach arvoreens geburtstagsfeier]
6454 root 1.247 [07:35] <JanMan> hehe, schmorp zur flasche betreffend reiserfs: "It's dead Jim" :)
6455 root 1.387 %
6456 root 1.4 [about a broken perl module by Larry Wall]
6457 root 1.247 [03:02] <schmorp> beschwer dich doch mal bei larry ;)
6458 root 1.4 ...
6459     [03:03] <JanMan> larry sagt sicher: aber als "awk" replacement ist perl ok, oder ? :)
6460 root 1.387 %
6461 root 1.3 [From: Alan Cox]
6462 root 1.247 > The executive, Irving Wladawsky-Berger, an I.B.M. vice president, said,
6463     > "If we thought this was a trap, we wouldn't be doing it, and as you
6464     > know, we have a lot of lawyers."
6465    
6466     I loved that. It's in my fortune file now ;)
6467    
6468     Alan
6469 root 1.387 %
6470 root 1.388 [JanMan über O'Reilly]
6471 root 1.247 [07:41] <JanMan> naja, Win32-Buecher ohne ende.
6472     [07:42] <JanMan> Powering a machine on in the Win32 environment.
6473     [07:42] <JanMan> nene, scherz am rande. fuer geld ziehen sie sich aus.
6474     [07:42] <JanMan> aber die DE-Leute sind ok.
6475 root 1.387 %
6476 root 1.2 [JanMan beim suchen eines exploits in OpenSSL]
6477 root 1.247 [07:05] <JanMan> das nenne ich russisch:
6478     [07:05] <JanMan> EVP_PKEY *key = NULL;
6479     [07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS12_SAFEBAG) *bags = NULL;
6480     [07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS7) *safes = NULL;
6481     [07:05] <JanMan> PKCS12_SAFEBAG *bag = NULL;
6482     [07:08] <JanMan> (#define STACK_OF(type) struct stack_st_##type)
6483 root 1.387 %
6484 root 1.2 Hlade's Law:
6485     If you have a difficult task, give it to a lazy person -- they
6486     will find an easier way to do it.
6487 root 1.387 %
6488 root 1.388 [Über Marco, der immer noch nicht bemerkt hat, das man sein gecos-Feld auf
6489 root 1.7 "Marco alast [name removed to protect the guilty] \(Micro$oft-Fetischist\)" gesetzt hat.]
6490     Paul wrote:
6491     >Marc wrote:
6492 root 1.2 >> Der wird es auch nie schnallen ;-)
6493     > aber echt argllll. Oh Herr schmeiss Hirn vom Himmel (hoffentlich triffts
6494     > den richtigen.
6495 root 1.387 %
6496 root 1.1 [from janmans .sig]
6497     > " Man gebe jedem Niedersachsen - seinen eigenen Castor-Kasten. "
6498 root 1.387 %
6499 root 1.1 [a small perl program]
6500     :(); { :: | :: } ;
6501 root 1.387 %
6502 root 1.1 [a small fork-bomb for bash]
6503     :() { : | : ;} ; :
6504 root 1.387 %
6505 root 1.1 [messages I got while trying to get files from a windoze ftp server]
6506     New: 464 files, 0 symlinks
6507     <--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
6508     <--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
6509     <--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
6510 root 1.387 %
6511 root 1.1 From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6512     [...]
6513    
6514     >Would gcc exports step forward? How long back does the -traditional-cpp
6515    
6516     Must. Get. More. Sleep. s/ports/perts/
6517 root 1.387 %
6518 root 1.1 > There is a mechanism for this already. It is called overloaded
6519     > constants.
6520    
6521     I have a mechanism that can replace Perl: it's called Turing's machine.
6522 root 1.247 Or an abacus, for that matter. More details on your proposed solution
6523 root 1.1 would be conducive for further discussion.
6524 root 1.387 %
6525 root 1.247 > Is there a kernel development irc room anywhere? If not, does anyone think
6526 root 1.1 > it might be useful?
6527    
6528     I'd just like to point out that it's called a channel, not a
6529     room. Room is a term introduced by AOL, and I don't think it has
6530     much to do with IRC.
6531 root 1.387 %
6532 root 1.1 From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
6533     Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.2 fails to merge mmap areas, 700% slowdown.
6534    
6535     [...]
6536     Cool. Somebody actually found a real case.
6537    
6538     I'll fix the mmap case asap. Its' not hard, I just waited to see if it
6539     ever actually triggers. Something like g++ certainly counts as major.
6540 root 1.387 %
6541 root 1.1 [sorry, that's internal, folks ;)]
6542 root 1.247 [07:17] <marco2> elmex heisst jetzt plagiator...
6543 root 1.387 %
6544 root 1.1 [http://www.latimes.com/business/cutting/20010405/t000029080.html]
6545    
6546     Like all good paranoid fantasies, mine has a villain: the Japanese.
6547     Japanese electronics designers have been deliberately building
6548     clocks into everything in hopes of weakening our industrial might.
6549    
6550     Now, you might say, "Dave, that's crazy talk. The Japanese have a
6551     lot more of these gadgets than we do. They're gadget freaks,
6552     man. They'd be hurt by this as much as we are, or even more." Which
6553     shows how much you know, pal.
6554    
6555     The Japanese don't have daylight saving time.
6556 root 1.387 %
6557 root 1.1 [messages we got while we massacred our institute's configuration]
6558     /scsi2/user2# Apr 5 00:01:17 islhp7 sendmail[1539]: savemail: HELP!!!!
6559     Apr 5 00:08:16 islhp7 sendmail[1626]: savemail: HELP!!!!
6560 root 1.387 %
6561 root 1.1 [a JAPH using doubled characters only]
6562     s//pprriinntt ""JJuusstt AAnnootthheerr PPeerrll HHaacckkeerr,,""22//11;;
6563     y yzzyyccss;;##s
6564     s((((.................................))((((((((..??))))))))))(($$11))ee;;
6565 root 1.387 %
6566 root 1.1 [from the FWP mailinglist]
6567     > OR is spelled "|" in the version of Perl I have, not "&" :)
6568     Your version of perl sucks.
6569 root 1.387 %
6570 root 1.247 [01:43] <elmex_> ah-oh-uh
6571     [01:44] <schmorp> leitung durchhacken
6572     [01:44] <elmex_> wieso? welche?
6573     [01:45] <schmorp> die, auf der du nach dem durchhacken auch noch sitzt? ;9
6574     [02:03] <elmex_> das mit dem durchhacken daurert noch
6575     [02:03] <elmex_> da isn stahltraeger in der wand
6576     [02:04] <elmex_> muss ich erst drumherum
6577     [02:04] <elmex_> ;)
6578 root 1.1 [02:04] <schmorp> ist doch gut. seine leitungen soltle man ja auch nicht durchhacken
6579 root 1.247 [02:04] <elmex_> nich? aber du sachstes doch?
6580     [02:05] <schmorp> *sigh*
6581 root 1.387 %
6582 root 1.1 I agree the message is pretty useless: you need to know what it means
6583     before you can understand it :)
6584 root 1.387 %
6585 root 1.1 > now. Rather than the current system of "measure this item onscreen
6586     > and enter the figure from your ruler" to calculate DPI, I think it
6587     > would be more userfriendly to have the shape of some common object
6588 root 1.247 > that you could stretch to fit. For example, you could select A4
6589 root 1.1 > paper, place the top of a sheet against the monitor, and stretch or
6590     > shrink the virtual outline until it fits the physical outline. That
6591     > would give a pretty decent measurement, I think
6592    
6593     IMHO (I have thought about this before) the perfect object is a CD
6594     There is nowhere in the world which does not have CDs, they are always
6595     the same size to within mm and they are perfectly round, so they can
6596     easily be used to check that your circles are circular _if_ that is
6597     what you want (cheap screens will distort things too badly for this to
6598     be worth attempting).
6599    
6600     I'm too busy to do anything about it though, so if a piece of A4 paper
6601     floats your goat, go for it! It's about time the Americans finally
6602     caught up to the 20th century and went metric anyway...
6603    
6604     Nick.
6605 root 1.387 %
6606 root 1.1 From: "Mike Rebane" <reba0002@algonquincollege.com>
6607     Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:48:48 -0500
6608     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
6609    
6610 root 1.247 I dont know if you are the right person to be asking about this, but here it
6611 root 1.1 goes anyways. I was wondering if you could direct me to some information on
6612     how to hack into paysites. Im currently a networking student in college and
6613     have a good knowledge of win 98 win 2000 and win NT. My e-mail adress is
6614     magic_bone@hotmail.com
6615 root 1.387 %
6616 root 1.1 > > > I guess then someone would want
6617     > > > { ... } for (...) if ...;
6618     > > > to work :-)
6619 root 1.247 > >
6620 root 1.1 > > Funnily enough I wrote that very thing only yesterday.
6621 root 1.247 >
6622 root 1.1 > Eh?
6623 root 1.247 >
6624 root 1.1 > $ perl -we '{ print "$_\n" } for (@a) if $a'
6625     > syntax error at -e line 1, near ") if"
6626    
6627     He didn't say it worked. :)
6628 root 1.387 %
6629 root 1.1 From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6630    
6631     On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:10:52PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
6632     > I find it irksome that
6633 root 1.247 >
6634 root 1.1 > for ( ... ) { ... } if ...;
6635    
6636     ...doesn't work, and that my send finger is too itchy.
6637 root 1.387 %
6638 root 1.1 [a perl5 bug report]
6639     From: Simon Cozens
6640    
6641     On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:49:55AM -0600, Dan Brumleve wrote:
6642     > '' =~ ($re = qr((??{$i++ < 10e4 ? $re : ''})));
6643     > Produces SIGSEGV.
6644    
6645     Looks like a feature to me.
6646 root 1.387 %
6647 root 1.1 [Lukilein...]
6648 root 1.388 "Wie man ein BSE-Unix überhaupt bedienen kann..."
6649 root 1.387 %
6650 root 1.1 [hehe, the "critical thinking community", mainly located in the lesser
6651     intelligent parts of the earth named "USA";)]
6652    
6653     "There are articles and studies showing that, at one time, all of Earth
6654     continents were on one side of the planet. What the stories don't explore
6655     is the question, if all the continents were on one side, what was on the
6656     other? The other side has been described as a tremendous gap [...]"
6657    
6658     "We can see clear proof that the continents were all once connected by
6659     simply looking at a map of the Earth and seeing how the pieces fit. That
6660     would only mean that at one time, Earth was basically half a planet. If
6661     you were to syphon all the water off of Earth's surface, you would see a
6662     large gapping hole where the ocean has filled in this tremendous missing
6663     part of the Earth. Where did it go? Why is Earth only half a planet?"
6664 root 1.387 %
6665 root 1.1 [following cites are from Crypto-Gram 20010315]
6666     I'll just reprint this from their Web site: "iBallot.Com uses a number of
6667     security and encryption features that, when combined, provide a very high
6668     level of security throughout the entire voting process. The details of
6669     this process are proprietary, for obvious reasons. It does not make a
6670     great deal of sense to disclose how the iBallot.Com security system works
6671     only to have a hacker come into the system, read about the system's
6672     security, defeat the security and tamper with the voting process. For this
6673     reason, iBallot.Com does not publish its security processes. However, with
6674     the foregoing being said, the iBallot.Com system does employ encryption and
6675     secure server technology to ensure that the entire voting process is fair,
6676     accurate and not subject to tampering."
6677    
6678     Encryption and secure server technology.... Boy, I certainly feel
6679     better. Good thing they don't disclose their security; if they did some
6680     hacker might read about it and break it. Who *are* these guys?
6681    
6682     <http://www.iballot.com/faq2.cfm?docid=28>
6683 root 1.387 %
6684 root 1.1 It's too late; Microsoft fixed it. But just a few days ago there was one
6685     more Q/A between the second and third question. It read: "Will the virus
6686     impact my Macintosh if I am using a non-Microsoft e-mail program, such as
6687     Eudora? If you are using a Macintosh e-mail program that is not from
6688     Microsoft, we recommend checking with that particular company. But most
6689     likely other e-mail programs like Eudora are not designed to enable virus
6690     replication."
6691     <http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/office/2001/virus_alert.asp>
6692 root 1.387 %
6693 root 1.1 [just some private thoughts]
6694     Ever asked yourself why your handheld irda communication is so slow?
6695    
6696     IrOBEX (Irda Object Exchange): A standard made by Microsoft, and it really
6697     shows.
6698    
6699     First of all, it is utterly inefficient in transfers: RTT totally dictates
6700     transfer speed, not a good thing with Irda (which has a high RTT). This
6701     totally circumvents the sliding windows irda protocol.
6702    
6703     Also, the IrOBEX specification talks a lot about "Unicode" text without
6704     defining it (except through totally wrong descriptions like "Unicode
6705     is two bytes/character", showing their total lack of knowledge since
6706     this is just plain wrong. I wonder what they mean with "Unicode", some
6707     MS-proprietary format? Not unlikely, given what they did to iso-8859-1).
6708    
6709     Reading through that document you will find that it would have been easy
6710     to find people doing a better job. Actually, I think even apes would come
6711     up with a saner protocol.
6712 root 1.387 %
6713 root 1.1 [voting by television, the american way...]
6714     "They [voters] were like, 'Who are all these people? I thought it was only Bush
6715     and Gore running,' " Tyson said.
6716    
6717     Many voters believed the 10 candidates were running for different offices and
6718     cast votes for several of them, Tyson said. Some Spanish-speaking or Haitian
6719     voters may have had difficulty understanding directions, Tyson said.
6720 root 1.387 %
6721 root 1.1 IBM has withdrawn CPRM...
6722     <http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-201-4922288-0.html?tag=mn_hd>
6723     ...and replaced it with something almost identical:
6724     <http://slashdot.org/yro/01/02/23/2134255.shtml>
6725     A good analysis by John Gilmore:
6726     <http://cryptome.org/cprm-smoke.htm>
6727 root 1.387 %
6728 root 1.1 [Midori-Linux FAQ]
6729     Q: What can I do about Netscape crashing?
6730 root 1.247 A: Any experienced user of Linux Netscape is used to
6731     seeing it crash and the included version of Linux Netscape
6732     is no exception. This is probably not good, but the product
6733     does not come with source code. The workaround is to run
6734 root 1.1 Netscape in a loop.
6735 root 1.387 %
6736 root 1.1 Subject: [reiserfs-list] Free Space - Where did it go?
6737 root 1.387 %
6738 root 1.1 [Technologieregion Karlsruhe (und andere)]
6739     marco: Die Region zwischen Stuttgart, Heilbronn und Karlsruhe produziert
6740 root 1.247 mehr als Laender wie Schweden, die Schweiz oder Spanien!
6741 root 1.1 marco: Im neuesten Technologiebarometer von wired stehen wir auf Platz 2
6742 root 1.247 hinter dem Silicon Valley in bezug auf Technologie und Infrastruktur
6743 root 1.387 %
6744 root 1.1 [2001-03-14, 3sat, Kulturzeit zum Absturz der MIR:]
6745     "ist mir egal"
6746 root 1.387 %
6747 root 1.1 From: Hans Reiser
6748     Subject: [reiserfs-list] fsck now uses lost and found!
6749    
6750     Dad, make sure the docs get updated.
6751 root 1.387 %
6752 root 1.1 [debugging message found in the siemens data exchange software]
6753     hallole
6754 root 1.387 %
6755 root 1.1 I have seen that many drives either have a pathetically small queue or
6756     have completely broken tagged queueing. I guess thats what happens when
6757     most vendors target their hardware for micro$oft.
6758 root 1.387 %
6759 root 1.1 1925 With a drink so good, 'tis folly to be thirsty
6760     1929 The high sign of refreshment
6761     1929 The pause that refreshes
6762     1930 It had to be good to get where it is
6763     1932 The drink that makes a pause refreshing
6764     1935 The pause that brings friends together
6765     1937 STOP for a pause... GO refreshed
6766     1938 The best friend thirst ever had
6767     1939 Thirst stops here
6768     1942 It's the real thing
6769     1947 Have a Coke
6770     1961 Zing! what a REFRESHING NEW FEELING
6771     1963 Things go better with Coke
6772     1969 Face Uncle Sam with a Coke in your hand
6773     1979 Have a Coke and a smile
6774     1982 Coke is it!
6775     -- Coca-Cola slogans
6776 root 1.387 %
6777 root 1.1 [strings recently found in my /proc/cpuinfo]
6778     model name : Heavily Overclocked Pentium II (Klamath) (266Mhz/66Mhz FSB)
6779 root 1.387 %
6780 root 1.247 [02:24] <elmex> schmorp:
6781     [02:24] <elmex> ich wollte mal meine logik ueberpruefen an deiner erfahrung
6782 root 1.387 %
6783 root 1.388 [Die letzte Woche war zuviel für Paul]
6784 root 1.1 Nach mehrstuendigen Laptop-um-/-neu-/-rauf- und runterinstallationen
6785     erlitt unser allseits bekannter und beliebter RechnerHiWi
6786     islpaul.bettinger am heutigen Nachmittag einen Totalabsturz. Nach der
6787     Meldung "Die Anwendung 'Installiere Cheflaptop' wurde aufgrund eines
6788     ungueltigen Vorganges beendet" begann er sinnlose Lieder zu singen "Die
6789     Karawane zieht weiter, der Sultan haelt durch". Unmittelbar darauf
6790     wurde seine Brille blau, der Schriftzug "Allgemeine Schutzverletzung"
6791     erschien. Nach einem Reboot durch Roland (ehemaliger Fussballer, zum
6792     booten also gut geeignet), meldete Paul nur noch "Bitte Windows 2000 CD
6793     einlegen" (siehe dazu die vorige PTS-Mitteilung). Nach Einlegen einer
6794     Linux-Bootdiskette konnte Paul im Single User Modus wiederbelebt werden
6795     - allerdings nur mit einem Bruchteil seiner urspruenglichen Faehigkeiten
6796     (640k Speicher, 16bit Farbwahrnehmung, kein Plug&Play). Er plant nun eine
6797     Karriere als Windows Sysadmin oder Java Programmierer.
6798    
6799     Beileidbekundungen und Spenden bitte an
6800     hi09@isl.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de
6801 root 1.387 %
6802 root 1.1 [RMS about gcc snapshots]
6803     From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
6804    
6805     [...] Red Hat did make their own release from a snapshot, which was an
6806     uncool thing to do. [...]
6807 root 1.387 %
6808 root 1.1 "Als das Universum einige zehntausend Jahre alt war - logarithmisch
6809     betrachtet also vor relativ kurzer Zeit -, ..."
6810     [Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 3/2001, S. 38]
6811 root 1.387 %
6812 root 1.388 "Es ist ein wunderbar beglückendes Gefühl, wenn ein selbstgefertigtes
6813 root 1.1 Programm zum ersten Mal in die Rechenmaschine eingelesen wird, wenn die
6814 root 1.388 Maschine anschließend rechnet und die richtigen Resultate ausdruckt."
6815 root 1.1
6816 root 1.388 "Manche Programmierer erliegen dem Rausch dieses Gefühls so sehr,
6817     daß sie süchtig werden und über dem Programmieren andere Dinge
6818     vernachlässigen. Erfahrungsgemäß hört diese Sucht nach 0,5 bis 2 Jahren
6819     von selbst auf und macht dann häufig sogar einer gewissen Abneigung gegen
6820 root 1.1 die Maschinen Platz."
6821     [Prof. Dr. Karl Nickel (TH Karlsruhe), "ALGOL Praktikum", 1964]
6822 root 1.387 %
6823 root 1.1 My previous job, and some contract work I have done, involved writing
6824     software for Windows. My WORST problems were incompatibilities between
6825     Windows NT and Windows 95. The APIs do NOT, I repeat NOT! NOT! NOT!
6826     work the same on the various Windows flavors, as soon as you start
6827     doing non-trivial applications. Three times at least, portability
6828     problems from NT to Win95 cost me sleepless nights. Debugging stuff
6829     like that is hell when you don't have the source.
6830    
6831     And when things break on Win95 where they ran on NT, what do you do,
6832     run a debugger on Win95, where a crash can (and will) bring down the
6833     whole system? Ugh, the horror.
6834 root 1.387 %
6835 root 1.1 > You know XOR is patented (yes, the logical bit operation XOR).
6836    
6837     US Patent #4,197,590 held by NuGraphics, Inc.
6838 root 1.387 %
6839 root 1.1 Legend has it Microsoft once found a patent of theirs which IBM appeared
6840     to have infringed, and were very excited at the possibility of something
6841     to hold over IBM, so their lawyers met IBM's lawyers. The MS lawyers
6842     beamed "look at our patent you've infringed!" IBM's lawyers replied "look
6843     at this pile of our patents YOU'VE infringed... let's start with this
6844 root 1.247 one. A Tab key." MS suddenly realised they were outlawyered...
6845 root 1.387 %
6846 root 1.1 From: David Woodhouse
6847     > Okay, so if we are going to get real stupid about the whole thing, I
6848     > wonder if Microsloth is going to patent the patent?
6849    
6850     Filing nuisance patents for obvious stuff which shouldn't ever get granted
6851     is a viable business method and as such is patentable in the US.
6852    
6853     After all, what patent officer is going to point out the prior art?
6854 root 1.387 %
6855 root 1.1 http://vger.kernel.org/lkml/#s3-9
6856 root 1.387 %
6857 root 1.1 [recently on linux-kernel]
6858     From: Alan Cox
6859     > > Yeah. We can have this as part of the locale settings, changable by
6860     > > echoing the desired locale string to /proc/sys/kernel/lc_all.
6861 root 1.247 >
6862     > Just an idea, . . but isn't this something better done in userland?
6863 root 1.1
6864 root 1.247 Please remember this is an international list. For the benefit of certain
6865 root 1.1 users please mark all sarcasm with the word NOT or a simply face
6866 root 1.387 %
6867 root 1.1 From: Russell King
6868     Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:31:26 +0000 (GMT)
6869     To: Albert D. Cahalan
6870    
6871     Albert D. Cahalan writes:
6872     > The units seem to vary. I suggest using fundamental SI units.
6873     > That would be meters, kilograms, seconds, and maybe a very
6874     > few others -- my memory fails me on this.
6875    
6876     iirc, SI comes from France, and therefore it should be "metres"
6877    
6878     [flames to /dev/null please] ;)
6879 root 1.387 %
6880 root 1.388 [11:19] <pho3nix> ich hoffe du bist dir im klaren darüber, das ein Mensch,
6881 root 1.1 der was von dir hielt, jetzt so beleidigt wurde, dass er nichts mehr mit
6882     dir zu tun haben will, COMMUNICATION END
6883 root 1.247 [11:19] <schmorp> pho3nix: ich weiss ja nochnichtmal, warum?
6884 root 1.387 %
6885 root 1.388 [über "Mediengestaltung"]
6886 root 1.247 [10:39] <elmex|Zz> pho3nix: information mit desingt ueberlagern
6887     [10:40] <schmorp> elmex|Zz: ueberlagern oder erestzen, das its hier die frage?
6888 root 1.387 %
6889 root 1.1 [perldoc perlembed]
6890     You can sometimes _write_faster_code_ in C, but you can always _write_code_faster_ in Perl.
6891 root 1.387 %
6892 root 1.247 [03:34] <JanMan> Arvoreen: elmex-werbung: "Nur echt elmex, wenn Lukas drinnsteckt" :)
6893 root 1.387 %
6894 root 1.247 [09:26] <JanMan> bevor du arbeiten auf lukas-server nimm den job als massenmoerder.
6895     [09:34] <JanMan> elmex: pass' auf, dass keine loop entsteht:
6896     nameserver->lukas_arsch->lukas->dein_arsch->du->name-server
6897 root 1.387 %
6898 root 1.1 [linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_nat_ftp.c]
6899     /* So there I am, in the middle of my `netfilter-is-wonderful'
6900     talk in Sydney, and someone asks `What happens if you try
6901     to enlarge a 64k packet here?'. I think I said something
6902     eloquent like `fuck'. */
6903 root 1.387 %
6904 root 1.1 [20:44] <elmex|aw> ich werde mir nochmal ueberlegen ob ich heute nochmal hier her komme......
6905 root 1.387 %
6906 root 1.247 [09:40] <kiki> zu spaet
6907     [09:40] <JanMan> kiki: hey, blasen hilft jetzt auch nicht mehr...
6908     [09:41] <kiki> lutschen hat noch nie bei dir geholfen
6909     [09:41] <kiki> aushungern schon
6910     [09:41] <JanMan> elmex: ja, das hat mit blume + biene zu tun.
6911     [09:41] <elmex> ?
6912     [09:42] <elmex> JanMan: ich kenne mich schon sehr wohl damit aus. nur halt noch keine erfarung
6913 root 1.387 %
6914 root 1.1 [Sierpinski Triangle, by Rich Morin]
6915     for$y(0..31){for(0..31){print$_&$y?$":'*'}print$/}
6916 root 1.387 %
6917 root 1.1 [From RDFStore::Stanford::Digest::Util, which is a java library ported to
6918     perl:]
6919    
6920     $SIG{__WARN__} = sub { return undef; }; #to take off the bloody utf warns
6921    
6922     [now, as for some comments: it took me hours to debug code that used warn
6923     to, well, warn users but the users didn't see anything. The intent of the
6924     above code was obviously to get rid of the "illegal multibyte character"
6925     warning in perl. This is the typical way a java programmer reacts to bugs
6926     in his code: "I don't understand this computer thing anyway, so let's just
6927     disable the message and pray it works"]
6928 root 1.387 %
6929 root 1.1 [Another "one-liner" mail... Please spam him ;)]
6930     From: "Alexander Daskalov" <alexanderd@alexsmail.com>
6931     Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:44:11 -0800
6932     X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05>
6933    
6934     I was just curious how many people are on ths gimp mailing list? Whoever+
6935     can see this message please reply with a simple answer like: i am, or+
6936     i'm on the list!, etc. Please reply, i thik everybody else might want to+
6937     know this same information, it also gives us a chance to know each other+
6938     better! So please reply to this message if on the mailing list!
6939 root 1.387 %
6940 root 1.1 [I was looking for ISO3166 && ISO639 tables in the corresponding "local"
6941     language, if applicable, and came up with this:]
6942     http://www.tieke.fi/sc32wg1/wg1n155.pdf
6943 root 1.387 %
6944 root 1.1 [imap-2000c/c-client/unix.c]
6945     * This file is dedicated to my dog, Unix, also known as Yun-chan and
6946     * Unix J. Terwilliker Jehosophat Aloysius Monstrosity Animal Beast. Unix
6947     * passed away at the age of 11 1/2 on September 14, 1996, 12:18 PM PDT, after
6948     * a two-month bout with cirrhosis of the liver.
6949 root 1.387 %
6950 root 1.1 [from qmail's maildir(5)]
6951     Many sites use Sun's Network Failure System (NFS), presumably because the
6952     operating system vendor does not offer anything else.
6953 root 1.387 %
6954 root 1.1 [Lukas Grundwald]
6955     Der Film scheint echt gut zu sein: geht viel kaputt.
6956 root 1.387 %
6957 root 1.1 [waiting for windows...]
6958     http://www.cool-pix-server.de/pix/microsoft/microsoft002.jpg
6959 root 1.387 %
6960 root 1.1 [x86 really is a cool design]
6961     > For our specific purposes, that's not important. We already flush the cache
6962     > before we create uncached regions (via ioremap_nocache). I understand that as a
6963     > general Linux feature, you can't ignore cache incoherency, but I don't think
6964     > it's a hard requirement.
6965    
6966     Actually you can't ignore it or the processor will have a heart attack
6967     if the cached page mapping is used even speculatively. I've done some
6968     experimenting, if the page is mapped cached in one place, and UCWC in
6969     another, things will not work. Its extremely likely the processor will
6970     cease to function. Its not like having cached and uncached mappings of
6971     a page (which does work on the Intel processors, we use that feature in
6972     the agpgart and the DRM in fact.) When you mark a page UCWC, you better
6973     have removed all cached mappings or your asking for REAL trouble.
6974 root 1.387 %
6975 root 1.1 > once again. On the Debian group it's invariably "how do I load
6976     > Netscape?"
6977 root 1.247
6978 root 1.1 can't be. debian sounds more like: "who do i have to ask for using
6979     netscape, and do we all agree on /usr/local/bin/. ?"
6980 root 1.387 %
6981 root 1.1 The COBOL language was created specifically to reduce the amount of
6982     commenting necessary in a program, because the English-like sentence
6983     structure could be read and understood by humans. The FORTRAN language was
6984     created so that math types could "talk" in a language more familiar to
6985     them, letting the computer take care of the details about how to perform
6986     the specified task step-by-step.
6987 root 1.387 %
6988 root 1.1 There is an old programmer's rule.
6989    
6990     "Documentation? Too bad. If the code was damned hard to write, it should
6991     be damned hard to understand."
6992 root 1.387 %
6993 root 1.1 [Linus]
6994     Tabs are 8 characters. They are NOT adjustable. Never have been, never
6995     will be. Anybody who thinks tabs are anything but 8 chars apart is just
6996     wrong. It's that simple.
6997 root 1.387 %
6998 root 1.1 [yes, thank you, it helps a lot ;)]
6999 root 1.247 09:31] *** Joins: Unkn0wn [chaos@AC880AE2.ipt.aol.com] has joined #schmorp
7000 root 1.1 [09:32] <Unkn0wn> Nah, I won't alert yas. Was just cruisin around and found your
7001     site of H-games and thought bout thankin you for puttin it up. I figure most ppl
7002     never take a moment to thank someone. =P <Bows, and heads back to #VB on
7003 root 1.247 Undernet>
7004 root 1.387 %
7005 root 1.1 [character normalization might be harmful]
7006     > In short, normalizing prior to digesting AVOIDS allowing
7007     > inconsequential changes to change the digest. If I have misunderstood the
7008     > point of the section cited, I'm sure someone will correct me.
7009    
7010     Your scenario is correct as far as it goes. But consider a signed
7011     document that contains an element or attribute named
7012 root 1.388 "autorisation_de_découvert" ("credit limit").
7013 root 1.1 A forged version of the document that contained the name
7014     "autorization_de_de'couvert" (where ' = COMBINING ACUTE) would pass
7015     a normalization + signature check. However, the document processor
7016     might well fail to recognize it as having the semantics of "credit limit"
7017     and treat it as unknown and to be ignored. Bad news: the forger
7018     now appears to have unlimited credit!
7019 root 1.387 %
7020 root 1.1 ["my spam"]
7021     99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other
7022     numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of
7023     protestors and disidents). Half of what's left comes from either .kr
7024     or .br. I'm fully in favor of an Internet Death Penalty against those
7025     TLD's and associated domains till they clean up their acts.
7026 root 1.387 %
7027 root 1.1 [from linux-kernel]
7028     Hello Linus, my name is Rick Jones. I am the person at Hewlett-Packard
7029     who drafted the "so _obviously_ stupid" sendfile() interface of HP-UX.
7030     [... snip ...]
7031     never forget what leads to the downfall of the protagonist in Greek
7032     tragedy...
7033 root 1.387 %
7034 root 1.1 From: "Mike A. Harris"
7035 root 1.247
7036 root 1.1 On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
7037     >---- A notice to spammers ----
7038     >Unsolicited electronic mail advertisements to my email address is
7039     >strictly prohibited. Pursuant to California Business and Professions
7040     >Code, Section 17538.45, senders of unsolicited electronic mail
7041     >advertisements to me may be subject to a civil penalty of $50 per
7042     >message plus attorney's fees.
7043     [SNIP long sig]
7044 root 1.247
7045 root 1.1 O - K then. Nice sig. Too bad that it is at least as big as
7046     most spam mailings themselves. Instead of preventing spam,
7047     all you're doing is contributing to it.
7048 root 1.247
7049 root 1.1 I just delete spam now as it is easiest most of the time.
7050     However fortunately, the below sig comes from a static and easily
7051     procmailable address.
7052 root 1.247
7053 root 1.1 One more note is that no law of California, nor anywhre else
7054     means jack shit 50 meters away from your keyboard, so it is all
7055     just a waste of bandwidth.
7056 root 1.387 %
7057 root 1.388 rm: Entfernen von Verzeichnis »./xxx/po« nicht möglich: Die Datei existiert bereits
7058 root 1.387 %
7059 root 1.1 [during a toilet session, this flashed/flushed through my mind/brain]
7060     /bin/true --version | read && echo eek, a gnuzifist\!
7061 root 1.387 %
7062 root 1.1 [stefan thought this would be better]
7063 root 1.247 /bin/true --version | read && rm -rf / # get rid of non-posix Windows stuff.
7064 root 1.387 %
7065 root 1.1 [Java-Design]
7066 root 1.247 [02:53] <schmorp> in c 1 stunde suchen und probieren und dann 7 zeilen
7067     [02:53] <JanMan> schmorp: nein. in C 2 minuten suchen.
7068     [02:54] <JanMan> ich weiss nicht, an welchen level ich wo patchen soll.
7069 root 1.1 [02:55] <JanMan> es gibt eine Key, eine RSAKey, eine RSAKeyPublic/RSAKeyPrivate
7070 root 1.247 klasse, alles muell.
7071     [02:56] <JanMan> (ueberall noch ein praefix SSH..)
7072     [02:56] <JanMan> und die sachen sind ueber SSHRSAPublicKeyFile abgewickelt...
7073     [02:57] <JanMan> klar gibt es auch SSHRSAPublicKeyString.
7074 root 1.387 %
7075 root 1.247 [02:38] <JanMan> Lexikon: Java - siehe "ins Knie ficken, objektorientiert"
7076 root 1.387 %
7077 root 1.247 [02:30] <JanMan> schmorp: java has too many keywords but lacks an important one.
7078 root 1.1 [02:32] <JanMan> schmorp: yes: "broken". Java needs a "broken" keyword. "Error:
7079 root 1.247 missing "broken" but class seems "broken".
7080 root 1.387 %
7081 root 1.1 On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 09:34:08PM -0500, Michael Rothwell wrote:
7082     The man pages for open, read and write say that if a file is opened
7083     using the O_NONBLOCK flag, then read() and write() will always return
7084     immediately and not block the calling process.
7085    
7086     the man pages are wrong
7087    
7088     --cw
7089 root 1.387 %
7090 root 1.1 From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
7091     ...
7092     My take on this is that khttpd is unmaintained garbage.
7093 root 1.387 %
7094 root 1.1 [Subject: line on linux-kernel]
7095     Re: That horrible hack from hell called A20
7096 root 1.387 %
7097 root 1.1 From: "Vladimir V. Saveliev"
7098     > tar cvpf - foo | ( cd reiserfs; tar xvpf - )
7099     > Halfway through it gets a kernel oops and
7100    
7101     How fast does it oops?
7102 root 1.387 %
7103 root 1.1 From: Stefan Traby <stefan@hello-penguin.com>
7104    
7105     On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:01:05PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
7106     > NFSv2 has a 32bit file offset. Thus the largest file on NFSv2 you want to
7107     > touch is 2Gig.
7108    
7109     In theory, yes.
7110     In practice you don't want to touch NFS under Linux at all, so the
7111     2GB limit is a theoretical one. :)
7112 root 1.387 %
7113 root 1.247 [10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7114     [10:44] <elmex> | | | | | | |
7115     [10:44] <elmex> | | | |-----| | | |
7116     [10:44] <elmex> | |-------------------------| | | |
7117     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| | .---------------------------.| |-------|
7118     [10:44] <elmex> | | | |Welcome on elmex.x-paste.de|| | |
7119     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| | `---------------------------'| | |
7120     [10:44] <elmex> | |----------| |-----------------------| |
7121     [10:44] <elmex> | | |-| | | | |
7122     [10:44] <elmex> |-| | | | |-----| |
7123     [10:44] <elmex> | |------------|-------------- | | |
7124     [10:44] <elmex> | |-----------------------------------|-| |----|
7125     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| |-| | | | |
7126     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| | | | | |
7127     [10:44] <elmex> |-| | | | | |
7128     [10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7129 root 1.387 %
7130 root 1.1 Any committee IQ: average intelligence of members, divided by headcount.
7131 root 1.387 %
7132 root 1.1 "There were a lot of snickers in my course... The students looked at me
7133     like I was a stegosaurus still walking around when I told them that the
7134     [irrational spending of many dot-coms] was not sustainable. You have to
7135     take in more money then you put out, or you're toast."
7136     -- Ken Morse, managing director, MIT Entrepreneurship Center
7137 root 1.387 %
7138 root 1.1 "Wenn _ich_ das sage, darf ich das."
7139     [Lukas Grunwald]
7140 root 1.387 %
7141 root 1.1 [about having sponsoring message in YOUR syslog]
7142     From: Felix von Leitner <leitner@convergence.de>
7143     Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:33:13 +0100
7144     To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
7145    
7146     Thus spake Wojciech Puchar (wojtek@wojtek.from.pl):
7147     > > To view list of copyright holders type `copyright' at the shell
7148     > > prompt.
7149     > very good. maybe implement /proc/info/copyrights /proc/info/sponsors
7150     > /proc/info/authors?
7151 root 1.247
7152 root 1.1 Grand idea.
7153     Let's also add /proc/info/spammers,
7154     /proc/info/people-who-bothered-linus,
7155     /proc/info/people-who-disagree-with-hans-reiser,
7156     /proc/info/people-who-were-flamed-by-alan-cox and
7157     /proc/info/people-who-marc-lehmann-dislikes.
7158 root 1.247
7159 root 1.1 NOT.
7160     [...]
7161 root 1.387 %
7162 root 1.1 [Nick and I used to fight a LOT]
7163     Subject: Re: suggestion for gimp 1.3 and later
7164     From: Nick Lamb <njl98r@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
7165 root 1.247
7166 root 1.1 On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:29:41AM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
7167     > I think the best way would be to make any gtk label/text widget be
7168     > selectable. I don't know why this has not been done so far, but it might be
7169     > an interesting experiment.
7170 root 1.247
7171 root 1.1 Yes, I've often thought this. And everyone knows that if Marc and I agree
7172     about something it must be right (?) or at least it's in no-one's interest
7173     to disagree...
7174 root 1.387 %
7175 root 1.1 http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LNUX&d=2y WINNER
7176     http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RHAT&d=2y 2nd prize!
7177     http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CALD&d=1y 3rd prize!
7178     [und Lukas sagt:]
7179     ... man beachte die logarithmische Skala!
7180 root 1.387 %
7181 root 1.1 [from "how to photograph a total eclipse", in the nasa 1999 solar eclipse
7182     report:]
7183     ... The best strategy is to choose one aperture or f/number and bracket
7184     the exposures over a range of shutter speeds (i.e. 1/1000 down to 1
7185     second). Rehearsing this sequence is highly recommended since great
7186     excitment accompanies totality and there is little time to think.
7187 root 1.387 %
7188 root 1.1 [boy, now I know why I dislike GNOME]
7189     http://www.helixcode.com/~miguel/bongo-bong.html
7190 root 1.387 %
7191 root 1.1 ["kORBit, a CORBA implementation for the linux-kernel"]
7192     From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
7193     Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:34:39 +0100
7194    
7195     Alexander Viro wrote:
7196     > > It was just an example. Basically, you'd be able to do in with just
7197     > > about any language that has ORBit bindings.
7198     >
7199     > Yeah... "Infinitely extendable API" and all such. Roughly translated
7200     > as "we can't live without API bloat". Frankly, judging by the GNOME
7201     > codebase people who designed the thing are culturally incompatible with
7202     > UNIX.
7203    
7204     Agree. I remember a big complaint about Windows was the huge APIs,
7205     compared with Unix' tiny list of syscalls. And then I saw the GNOME
7206     docs... ew!
7207 root 1.387 %
7208 root 1.1 > Good question. The whole thing makes me nervous... in fact, perhaps we
7209     > should really consider using the BIOS INT 15h interrupt to enter
7210     > protected mode?
7211    
7212     From my experience with BIOS authors, only if Windows 98 uses the same function
7213     with the same arguments, the same stuff top of stack and the same segment
7214     registers loaded ;)
7215 root 1.387 %
7216 root 1.1 > > there... If someone wants to back-port the driver to 2.2, this makes it
7217     [...]
7218     > backports hurt forward progress.
7219    
7220     beware of content free dogma
7221 root 1.387 %
7222 root 1.1 > What operating systems use local time as their basic clock these days? Just
7223     > wondering.
7224    
7225     Any IBM PC compatible machine that runs under at least one Microsoft OS
7226     has to keep the battery-backed CMOS clock chip in local time, because
7227     unlike most other operating systems (e.g., any Unix flavour), none of
7228     Microsoft's CMOS clock drivers have a UTC option. Rather disappointing
7229     and every year an unneeded hassle after DST switches on multi-OS
7230     machines. From discussions with Microsoft staff, I have to conclude that
7231     no-one within Microsoft has even understood the problem.
7232    
7233     Markus [G. Kuhn]
7234 root 1.387 %
7235 root 1.1 >Keith,
7236 root 1.247 >
7237 root 1.1 >Please consider the attached patch for inclusion in all future versions
7238     >of the modutils depmod program for compatiblity with RedHat and
7239     >RedHat derived Linux distributions.
7240    
7241     I have a big problem with Redhat. They make incompatible changes to
7242     utilities, do not feed patches back to maintainers then expect the rest
7243     of the world to follow their lead. The -i and -m flags to modutils are
7244     not the only example, I recently found IA64 and Sparc patches they had
7245     added to modutils code and not bothered to tell me. Other distributors
7246     are much better about sending me patches, Debian and SuSe in particular
7247     do the right thing.
7248    
7249     Since "-F System.map" in modutils is equivalent to "-m System.map -i"
7250     and works on all distributions, not just Redhat, the "-m -i" patch is
7251     unnecessary. Consider this my protest against bad habits by
7252     distributors, they created the mess with their lack of communication
7253     and they have to fix it.
7254 root 1.387 %
7255 root 1.1 10:44] <JanMan> falls Du mal DB2 crashen musst:
7256     [10:45] <JanMan> connect reset;
7257     [10:45] <JanMan> connect to sample user db2admin using db2admin;
7258     [10:45] <JanMan> select * from employee where year(birthdate)=1999 and firstnme<'';
7259 root 1.387 %
7260 root 1.1 [a perl quine, by ilmari karonen:]
7261     printf+(q(printf+(q(%s))x2))x2
7262 root 1.387 %
7263 root 1.1 On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 07:22:34PM -0500, M&M Samsel wrote:
7264     > You see I have about 10 years of commercial development experience and
7265     > pretty much know business procedures from huge corporations and business
7266     > midgets and what I should expect or not.
7267    
7268     You've not demonstrated your 10 years of experience.
7269     You've just proved that killfiles are useful.
7270 root 1.387 %
7271 root 1.1 [once upon a time, when poul started gnomeicu:]
7272     gnomeicu: Rohrbruch (beim Speichern der Konfiguration)
7273 root 1.387 %
7274 root 1.1 [subject from a thread on the gcc steering commitee mailinglist when
7275     glibc-2.2 was released]
7276     Re: glibc 2.2 a fait accompli
7277 root 1.387 %
7278 root 1.1 [08:05] <JanMan> elmex: Fehlt Dir einmal Klopapier, versuche es mit GNU m4. :)
7279 root 1.387 %
7280 root 1.1 # root:0Ayj0AZhTi4O2:11272:0:99999:7:::
7281     # kma:1NXgYu6J80kvc:11225:0:99999:7:::
7282     # elmex:0ImdHgG2TEQAE:11273:0:99999:7: : :
7283 root 1.387 %
7284 root 1.1 <JanMan_> soll ich das ganze uber einen perl-hash erzeugen ?
7285     <schmorp> klar.. %hash->generate
7286     <JanMan_> oesi siedelt nach de: %oesi->degenerate
7287 root 1.387 %
7288 root 1.1 [From "How the mind of a php programmer works", by Marc Lehmann]
7289    
7290     (1) it works on msie 5 (alt.: netscape 4) so the code is
7291     standards-compliant.
7292     (2) an entity looks like "&" entityname ";"
7293     (2a) [conclusion] the fragment href="xxx&notes=77" doesn't contain a valid
7294     entity, so the browser must use it as is.
7295     (2b) [corollary] "<blubb>" is not a valid html element, so the browser
7296     must react according to what I assume it should do (display, ignore).
7297     (2c) in some programs I assume differently than in others.
7298 root 1.387 %
7299 root 1.1 [Oh no, Don Becker again ;)]
7300     > which one is the linksys card, so I have included the entire listing. (Is it
7301     > even listed? Perhaps this is my problem.)
7302    
7303     That's your problem.
7304    
7305     There is no PCI Ethernet device listed.
7306    
7307     Check that the card is fully inserted into the PCI slot.
7308     (If it's an ISA card, then it's not fully inserted into the PCI slot ;->)
7309 root 1.387 %
7310 root 1.1 > > sure request_module _does_not_ accept funky module names. Why allow
7311     > > people to shoot themselves (and, by extension, all other Linux users
7312     > > out there) in the foot?
7313    
7314     > I thought that was the whole purpose of Unix/Linux?
7315    
7316     True! Very true! Unix/Linux requires that the user shoot
7317     themselves in the foot. Windows automates that process and does it
7318     for the user, thus making foot shooting user friendly. :-)
7319 root 1.387 %
7320 root 1.1 > Turn on encryption, and try sending attachements > 1MB and tell me if
7321     > you see any problems, like emails sitting in /var/spool/mqueue for a day
7322     > or two until they go out. I can guarantee you will.
7323    
7324     No encryption use; and the maximal message size is 1Mb (for sanity's sake,
7325     after somebody sent a PowerPoint presentation (some 3Mb), then thought that
7326     perhaps the target didn't have PowerPoint, and sent it again with the
7327     PowerPoint package, then noticed this might not work either, and sent it
7328     _again_ with the full MS Office attached... the joys of sysadminning ;-)
7329     --
7330     Dr. Horst H. von Brand mailto:vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl
7331 root 1.387 %
7332 root 1.1 Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com> writes:
7333    
7334     > "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU> writes:
7335     >
7336     > > Arguably though the bug is in glibc, in that if it's using signals
7337     > > behinds the scenes, it should have passed SA_RESTART to sigaction.
7338     >
7339     > Why are you talking such a nonsense?
7340    
7341     [Note to self: remove kitten from keyboard before writing mail.]
7342 root 1.387 %
7343 root 1.388 [Simon Budig, nachdem er erfahren hatte, daß Lars Eilebrecht nicht wusste,
7344     daß Leerzeichen in URLs nicht erlaubt sind:]
7345     "Also, Lars, das hätte ich nicht gedacht, jetzt hast du aber jede Menge
7346 root 1.1 Gurupunkte bei mir verloren."
7347 root 1.387 %
7348 root 1.1 [amazon readers about the Annotated C Standard by Herberdt Schildt,
7349     which is much less expensive then the official version (search also for
7350     Bullschildt below ;)]
7351    
7352     "The price difference reflects the value of the annotations. At no time
7353     do the annotations clarify, enhance, or supplement the standard."
7354 root 1.387 %
7355 root 1.1 Stefan Traby wrote:
7356     >
7357     > On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 08:43:04AM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
7358     >
7359     > > We have a few websites floating around, [...]
7360     >
7361     > Many mirrors are also out of sync. Especially the primary server :)
7362 root 1.387 %
7363 root 1.1 > This happens with both ext2 and reiserfs, since at least 2.2.15.
7364    
7365     I installed noflushd on my laptop, which was running 2.4.0-test6, and
7366     it did the same thing.
7367    
7368     Sorry I can't offer more info. Someone spilt a glass of water on it about
7369     a week ago. :(
7370    
7371     --Jack
7372 root 1.387 %
7373 root 1.388 "Kalk hat diese Waschmaschine getötet"
7374 root 1.387 %
7375 root 1.1 [It is] best to confuse only one issue at a time.
7376     -- K&R
7377 root 1.387 %
7378 root 1.1 <elmex> JanMan: "||01:42:20|| <elmex> schmorp: jo, die sprache muss man nicht erklaeren"
7379 root 1.387 %
7380 root 1.1 [please kids, don't try this at home]
7381     indent -kr -l78 -lc78 -lps -i8 -br -pcs -psl -bbo -bad -bap -cs -nbc -nhnl -nss
7382 root 1.387 %
7383 root 1.1 http://www.attrition.org/gallery/ms/kmfms.jpg
7384 root 1.387 %
7385 root 1.1 [PApp.pm]
7386     $modules => { "" => "" };
7387 root 1.387 %
7388 root 1.388 Das einzig sichere Mittel gegen Migräne ist das Entfernen des Kopfes.
7389 root 1.387 %
7390 root 1.1 <JanMan> elmex: Sprichwort "Relaye doch bei dnx, dann kriegst Du nix." :)
7391 root 1.387 %
7392 root 1.1 [From Russel Coker's .sig]
7393     > --
7394     > If you can't program in C, PERL, and shell scripts then don't call yourself a
7395     > Unix administrator. Every idiot on the net is claiming to be a Unix admin. :(
7396 root 1.387 %
7397 root 1.1 [the two sides of the medal]
7398     From: "David Schwartz"
7399    
7400     > Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was increased from
7401     > 100 to 10000, the time to check for active sockets with poll()
7402     > increased by a factor of only 6.5. That's a sublinear increase in time,
7403     > pretty spiffy.
7404    
7405     Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was decreased from 10,000
7406     to 100, the time to check for active sockets with poll() decreased by a
7407     factor of only 6.5. Shouldn't it be more like 100? Sounds like Solaris' poll
7408     implementation is horribly broken for the most common case.
7409 root 1.387 %
7410 root 1.1 [lukas grunwald...]
7411 root 1.388 [ich sag' dir, ] ... am nächsten Tag brüllt der mich vielleicht per e-mail an ...
7412 root 1.387 %
7413 root 1.1 [from linux-kernel, about the rtl8139 network card]
7414     > (After looking at the specification for the 8139, I am acctually ashamed
7415     > of having bough one.
7416    
7417     Not an uncommon thought :)
7418 root 1.387 %
7419 root 1.1 From: Stefan Traby
7420    
7421     Hi Marc !
7422    
7423     keycode 115 = ISO_Next_Group
7424     keycode 116 = ISO_Prev_Group
7425     keycode 117 = ISO_Level3_Shift
7426    
7427     Finde ich witzig, man erspart sich den lock-screensaver :)
7428 root 1.387 %
7429 root 1.1 [I hope you get the point(s)...]
7430     From: Alex LIVINGSTON <alex@agsm.edu.au>
7431     Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:12:46 +1100
7432     To: <tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov>
7433    
7434     At 07:40 +0000 2000-10-06, ken@halcyon.com wrote:
7435     >But the thing is: mm/dd/yy[yy] is in widespread use (US), as is
7436     >dd/mm/yy[yy] (much of Europe, I'm told).
7437    
7438     Slight refinement: dd/mm/[yy]yy. Used in all European countries - and
7439     all countries colonized by a European country at one time or another
7440     which haven't had a strong US influence since, and probably all
7441     remaining Asian, African, and Pacific countries - that don't use
7442     [yy]yy-mm-dd. mm/dd/yy[yy] is restricted almost entirely to the US
7443     and a few neighbors. I would hesitate to say it is in widespread use.
7444    
7445     >[yy]yy-mm-dd was used
7446     >in Japan even before the ISO standard came out.
7447    
7448     And in China, and in Sweden, and in Hungary, ... (possibly with different
7449     separators). Also in the Arab world, in the sense that the digits (all of
7450     them) appear in the same order from left to right, only Arabic is written
7451     right to left.
7452    
7453     >But no culture
7454     >has ever used [yy]yy-dd-mm format, and there is absolutely
7455     >nothing to recommend it, so there is no reason to expect anyone
7456     >to adopt it. Yes, the perverse can use that format just to
7457     >confound us, but in practice one can safely assume that a
7458     >nnnn-nn-nn date is in yyyy-mm-dd format.
7459    
7460     Thanks Ken. You've put it much better and more concisely than I could have.
7461    
7462     --Alex
7463 root 1.387 %
7464 root 1.1 [recently, on the tulip driver mailing list]
7465     From: Donald Becker <becker@scyld.com>
7466     To: "Jon.Hinks" <Jon.Hinks@berkeley-ifa.co.uk>
7467    
7468     [most of the reply snipped...]
7469    
7470     > The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It
7471     > may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than this addressee, nor may
7472     > it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Berkeley
7473    
7474     [[ The rest of the boilerplate omitted. ]]
7475    
7476     These terms do not apply. You have mailed to a published list. You hold
7477     the copyright to your writings, but by submitting questions to the list you
7478     grant the list publisher (me) the right to publish in this list and related
7479     forums. "Related forums" may be collected archives of the list on any media,
7480     and quotes from questions in FAQs.
7481    
7482     (Long boilerplate appendages like this notice annoy me. Automatically
7483     attached copyright notices can never unilaterally extend your rights, so why
7484     try to claim that they do?)
7485 root 1.387 %
7486 root 1.1 On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Andre Hedrick wrote:
7487    
7488     > void go_take_a_dump (float load)
7489     > {
7490     > if (pull_down_pants() && purge_bowles() && wipe_anus() && pull_up_pants())
7491     > flush(load);
7492     > else
7493     > wear(load);
7494     > }
7495    
7496     But here you make another classic mistake. Consider the case where
7497     purge_bowels() fails (-EWOULDBLOCK?).
7498    
7499     In that case, you don't actually execute the subsequent two procedure
7500     calls, which I'm sure we all agree is a suboptimal state of affairs.
7501    
7502     --
7503     dwmw2
7504 root 1.387 %
7505 root 1.1 Factoid: 90% of all patents are never challenged, while 80% of those that
7506     are are overturned.
7507 root 1.387 %
7508 root 1.1 "Going into court is throwing the dice."
7509 root 1.387 %
7510 root 1.1 [Dipl. Ing. W******* D*******]
7511     "Lukas, eins muss dir klar sein, die ganze Kryptographie ist doch
7512 root 1.388 für den Arsch, wenn ich ein Stück von dem Originaltext habe und den
7513     verschlüsselten Text, knack' ich dir jeden Schlüssel in 50 Stunden."
7514 root 1.387 %
7515 root 1.1 [some discussion between reiserfs enthusiasts:]
7516     Stefan: oh shit, everything coredumps, I'll just reboot.
7517     Marc gives some dumb comments.
7518     Stefan: No, I'll first check it with reiserfsck.
7519     Marc: Yeah.. and?
7520     Stefan: "reiserfsck: no reiserfs found"
7521     Marc: Oh, the superblock is damaged. Maybe you should just try the backup superblock...
7522 root 1.387 %
7523 root 1.1 [t-online is just sooo cool:]
7524     Subject: mail failed, returning to sender
7525     From: <MAILER-DAEMON@fmrl01.sul.t-online.de>
7526    
7527     |------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------|
7528     <service@t-online.de> ... 550 Mailbox quota exceeded / Mailbox voll.
7529     |------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------|
7530 root 1.387 %
7531 root 1.1 [a play with a well-known-signature:]
7532     Deadlock, n.:
7533     Deceased Rasterman.
7534 root 1.387 %
7535 root 1.1 [Jeff Williams & friends]
7536     ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-bremen.de/pub/doc/internet-drafts/draft-terrell-ip-spec-ipv7-ipv8-addr-cls-00.txt
7537     http://IPv8.vrx.net/
7538     http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08030.html
7539 root 1.387 %
7540 root 1.1 [some .signature]
7541     This message has been ROT-13 encrypted twice for extra security.
7542 root 1.387 %
7543 root 1.1 [Andreas Mueller-Maghun for ICANN!]
7544     Allein der Kandidat des Chaos-Computer-Clubs (CCC) Hamburg, der schon
7545 root 1.388 mehr als 1.100 Unterstützungserklärungen erhalten hat, dürfte nach
7546     Einschätzung des arbeitskreises die Bedingung für eine Basiskandidatur
7547     zum ICANN-Direktorium schon jetzt erfüllen. Ausgerechnet er hat es aber
7548     nicht für nötig gehalten, auf die Anfrage der Behindertenvertreter zu
7549 root 1.1 reagieren. Seine Webseiten zeugen zudem von einem "Sicherheitskonzept",
7550     das Usern mit Sehbehinderung vor lauter technischen Barrieren keine
7551 root 1.388 Zugangsmöglichkeiten bietet. Der Arbeitskreis hält einen Vertreter solcher
7552     Positionen für unwählbar.
7553 root 1.1
7554     Jens Bertrams (Pressesprecher)
7555 root 1.387 %
7556 root 1.1 From: (Albert Y. C. Lai)
7557     Newsgroups: comp.lang.functional
7558     Subject: Re: what is "functional" (Re: Macros)
7559    
7560     Jerzy Karczmarczuk writes:
7561    
7562     > Their opinion: "well, *everybody* knows that this is not professional,
7563     > nobody uses functional languages, all your colleagues suggest that we
7564     > should learn Lex and Yacc, etc. -
7565     > but *WHAT A PLEASURE AND FUN* was to write these programs in Haskell.
7566     > Almost no run-time errors, ever!"
7567    
7568     A professor at my school got the opposite opinion from her students.
7569     She introduced ML (along with two other languages) as part of a course
7570     on the principles of programming languages in the third year. The
7571     students' opinion: this is such an annoyingly pedantic language, it
7572     refuses to let me run my program and get some partial though wrong
7573     results simply because I make a mistake!
7574    
7575     In other words, given that humans are bound to make mistakes, the
7576     students at my school prefer to see them manifested as run-time
7577     errors.
7578    
7579     So I look at your email address. Ah, you are in Europe and I am in
7580     North America. I guess that's why. Dijkstra is probably right about
7581     European programmers liking to do programming right and American
7582     programmers liking to chase after bugs.
7583 root 1.387 %
7584 root 1.1 On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:15:09PM +0200, Werner Almesberger wrote:
7585     > yodaiken@fsmlabs.com wrote:
7586     > > This call shifts delivered signal numbers up so that
7587     > > "special" POSIX signals [.. like KILL] can be delivered to a process.
7588     >
7589     > Kind of a SIGOVERKILL ... yes, that could work.
7590 root 1.387 %
7591 root 1.1 "The posix programmer knows the availability of everything, but the cost
7592     of nothing."
7593 root 1.387 %
7594 root 1.1 [after the linux-kernel list was moved to a new machine]
7595     Jeffrey Hundstad wrote:
7596     >
7597     > So tell us about this new machine. OS? Filesystem? Memory?
7598     > CPU?
7599    
7600     Root password? :)
7601    
7602     John.Fulmer
7603 root 1.387 %
7604 root 1.1 I think there is a world market for about five computers.
7605    
7606     Thomas J. Watson (Chairman, IBM) 1943
7607 root 1.387 %
7608 root 1.1 > NO. They can/will use RAW_IO *IF* this is available to them. If not, they
7609     > will have to provide a proper kernel driver for their hardware. I know
7610     > which I prefer...
7611    
7612     Sure. And keep that dusty 2.4.3 kernel around just in case you someday need
7613     to upgrade the firmware for your disk, and the (binary!) kernel module only
7614     works with that one. Don't forget the 2.4.15ac12 which is for your USB
7615     scanner, and also the 2.6.7-12 (Red Hat) which is the only one with the
7616     updater for the new SCSI controller.
7617     --
7618     Horst von Brand
7619 root 1.387 %
7620 root 1.1 [de.comp.lang.iso-c++]
7621    
7622     >Nicht alles was Standard ist, muss auch implementiert werden.
7623    
7624     [...]
7625    
7626     Nicht alles, was hinkt, ist ein Vergleich.
7627 root 1.387 %
7628 root 1.1 [Drew Sanford about why not to do real-time by throwing faster hardware
7629     at your problem:]
7630    
7631     The F4 Fantom fighter. The plane was essentially a large block of metal, with
7632     a few advantagously aerodynamic surfaces, and big f****** engines. If you
7633     had engine trouble in a Fantom ...you had trouble.
7634 root 1.387 %
7635 root 1.1 [Hans Reiser, on /bin/cp.. ;)]
7636     cp is inherently inefficient.
7637 root 1.387 %
7638 root 1.1 >I thought disk drives contained vacuums, thus the extensive concern over
7639     >breaking seals on them.
7640    
7641     Air pressure is 1Kg/cm^2. I have never seen a hard drive case that looked
7642     nearly strong enough to take such pressure. Basically if you can't jump on a
7643     hard drive then it's not strong enough!
7644    
7645     ...
7646    
7647     There's a story that Dave Cutler (VMS and WNT architect) when he was at DEC
7648     did a test on a DEC hard drive by blowing cigar smoke into the drive which
7649     killed it properly. DEC then greatly enhanced their drive air filters. It
7650     could be just an urban myth though.
7651    
7652     Russell Coker
7653 root 1.387 %
7654 root 1.1 >I've unsubscribed our somewhat less than intelligent friend.
7655     >Ah, Internet for the masses. What a wonderful idea.
7656    
7657     Yeah, let's have an IQ test before you're allowed to buy a modem.
7658 root 1.387 %
7659 root 1.1 On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 02:40:33PM +0200, Marc Lehmann wrote:
7660     > "Yury Yu. Rupasov" wrote:
7661     > > All my current benchmarks show that reiserfs works correctly on
7662     > > deleting.
7663     >
7664     > Just a sidenote: you don't test correctness with benchmarks :(
7665    
7666     Wrong. Yury does.
7667     :(
7668    
7669     --
7670     Stefan
7671 root 1.387 %
7672 root 1.1 "Jeff V. Merkey" writes:
7673     > I will provide a tool that decodes and repairs NTFS volumes to those
7674     > folks who run into this problem, but our agreements with Microsoft do
7675     > not allow us to distribute it for any purpose other than to assist
7676     > Microsoft customers who have corrupted drives. Also, this tool is
7677     > dependent on the DDK being present to run as it has dependencies on the
7678     > DDK DLL's, so you'll need to install the DDK to use it.
7679    
7680     DDK == "Disk Death Kit"?
7681    
7682     Ian Soboroff ian@cs.umbc.edu
7683 root 1.387 %
7684 root 1.1 [very instructional movie, if you get what I mean...]
7685 root 1.388 00:30-02:05 (13) ( -35) Kabel 1 Das Mädchen am Ende der Straße The
7686 root 1.1 Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane Psychodrama - KAN/F/USA - 1976 -
7687 root 1.388 Regie: Nicolas Gessner * Die 13-jährige Rynn (Jodie Foster) lebt allein in
7688     einer alten Villa und hütet ein schreckliches Geheimnis.
7689 root 1.387 %
7690 root 1.1 [Einsichten in die "Kommunikation"]
7691     > > > Ich beschreibe dir, was in dem Moment an Eindruecken durch meinen
7692     > > > Kopf geht - in dem Augenblick bin ich Besucher und sehe was
7693     > > > mir gefaellt oder nicht - das ist wie ein Schmierzettel. Die
7694     > > > Ausarbeitung der Ideen kommt danach im Gespraech. Du packst solche
7695     > > > Sachen anders an - das seh ich ein. Aber ich bin mit dieser
7696     > > > Art chaos bisher immer ans Ziel gekommen. Was ich mach will -
7697     > > > machen muss - ist Feedback generieren. Ich lass Versuchsballons
7698     > > > aufsteigen und schau zu, wie sie entweder fliegen oder abgeschossen
7699     > > > werden. Dann reagier ich auf das Ergebnis.
7700 root 1.387 %
7701 root 1.388 [Mitch, als Erklärung dafür, weshalb er blindlings ein (kaputtes) ssh-rpm
7702     installiert hat, das er über rpmfind gefunden hat:]
7703     Doch, echt! Der Server war trusted, der sah' ja sowas von vertrauenswürdig
7704 root 1.1 aus!
7705 root 1.387 %
7706 root 1.1 [IMHO one of the main reasons linux is nicer]
7707     http://www.cyberport.com/~tangent/ix/bsod-story.html
7708 root 1.387 %
7709 root 1.1 [On the reality of random numbers]
7710     > /dev in a world with dynamic hardware, so why bother? We only need
7711     > to provide random numbers to fill in struct stat. (zero works)
7712     Alan Cox [as usual ;)]
7713 root 1.387 %
7714 root 1.1 [Flame Warriors]
7715     http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
7716 root 1.387 %
7717 root 1.1 A programmer who hasn't been exposed to all four of the imperative,
7718     functional, objective, and logical programming styles has one or
7719     more conceptual blindspots. It's like knowing how to boil but not
7720     fry. Programming is not a skill one develops in five easy lessons.
7721    
7722     --tom
7723 root 1.387 %
7724 root 1.1 To: bugs@gimp.org
7725     X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 105
7726    
7727     Hi there, I recently downloaded your gimp toolkit. At first I was having
7728     problems until I read your download help tip. I understand I have to compile
7729     it so I tried using Borland C++ Compiler but it said the line length exceeds
7730     editor capacity. Is there any other compiler I can use that wouldn't rip a
7731     whole in my wallet. Thank you for your support.
7732 root 1.387 %
7733 root 1.1 ["General Information About Using VBScript with Outlook"]
7734     VBScript is designed to be a secure programming environment. It
7735     lacks various commands that can be potentially damaging if used in
7736     a malicious manner. This added security is critical in enterprise
7737     solutions.
7738    
7739     http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q167/1/38.ASP
7740    
7741     [Despite this "added security", however, VBscript still can modify,
7742     rename, delete files, modify windows registry entries and send email in
7743     the background]
7744 root 1.387 %
7745 root 1.1 [Phil Agre on the "ILOVEYOU" virus and Microsoft's reaction]
7746     Scott Culp of Microsoft Public Relations, excuse me, I mean Microsoft
7747     Security Response Center:
7748    
7749     This is a general issue, not a Microsoft issue. You can write a
7750     virus for any platform. (New York Times 5/5/00)
7751    
7752     [and later]
7753     Mr. Culp also says this (CNET 5/5/00):
7754    
7755     This is by-design behavior, not a security vulnerability.
7756    
7757     [Phil closes]
7758     Microsoft shouldn't be broken up. It should be shut down.
7759    
7760     [See also http://dlis.gseis.ucla.edu/people/pagre/rre.html]
7761     [and http://commons.somewhere.com/rre/2000/RRE.notes.and.recommenda6.html]
7762 root 1.387 %
7763 root 1.1 [Bruce Schneier about the "ILOVEYOU" virus]
7764     Expect even worse in the future. Systems running either Microsoft Office
7765     2000 or Internet Explorer 5.0 can be infected with these sorts of viruses
7766     even if the recipient doesn't open the attachment. That's right; if the
7767     system is running Internet Explorer with the default settings, it is
7768     vulnerable. The problem is caused by a programming bug in an Internet
7769     Explorer ActiveX control. Thank you, Microsoft.
7770 root 1.387 %
7771 root 1.1 >Reaching to Fallingbostel was extremely amusing though, germany is
7772     >splitted into two halfs, one that doesn't know Fallingbostel and one
7773     >that 'heard of this place but have no idea where it is' at some point I
7774     >was almost convinced that there is no such place :)
7775    
7776     [Trashey / Quasars]
7777 root 1.387 %
7778 root 1.1 Tom Christiansen writes:
7779     > I'm writing perlrtfm. It explains search techniques, not quickfix
7780     > switches plugging bursting dykes by springing more leaks.
7781    
7782     Irony potential in
7783    
7784     man perlrtfm
7785    
7786     is left to the reader.
7787    
7788     Nat
7789 root 1.387 %
7790 root 1.1 Do you plan to release support for on-the-fly file and directory compression
7791     and encryption as in NTFSv2?
7792    
7793     (Imagine a system that in order to run needs a diskette or CD-ROM disk with
7794     private key - protection never seen except in movies ;-)
7795 root 1.387 %
7796 root 1.1 [Telekom-Techniker, bei einer ISDN-UK0-Messung!]
7797     Ich: Also, einen Layer-1-Connect bekomme ich...
7798     Telekomiker: Layer-1? Was ist das? Aber ich bekomme ja auch gar kein Freizeichen...
7799 root 1.387 %
7800 root 1.1 "I love the way Microsoft follows standards. In much the
7801     same manner that fish follow migrating caribou."
7802     Paul Tomblin
7803 root 1.387 %
7804 root 1.1 [recently on p5p]
7805     >I am morally
7806     >convinced that map() was written based on grep()
7807    
7808     Considering they use the same op function, I'd say that's a distinct
7809     possibility...
7810    
7811     Dan
7812 root 1.387 %
7813 root 1.1 [after the "Welle Erdball" performance on the Mekka&Symposium 2000:]
7814 root 1.388 <jan> bine: du solltest da nicht hingucken, das ist nicht gut fürn kopf
7815 root 1.1 <Bordeaux> after listening to this crap, and hearing *zugabe zugabe* i finally have the proof that all german c64 sceners are gay :)
7816     <Mr> zugabe
7817 root 1.387 %
7818 root 1.1 "Why upon hearing his arguments I changed my opinion 360 degrees."
7819     Recent comment on the floor of some state legislature
7820 root 1.387 %
7821 root 1.1 DIVIDE EMPLOYEE-EARNINGS BY EMPLOYEE-HOURS GIVING EMPLOYEE-PAY-RATE
7822     [cobol, *sigh*]
7823 root 1.387 %
7824 root 1.1 It is expected that the Multics system will be published when it is
7825     operating substantially and will therefore be available for implementation
7826     on any equipment with suitable characteristics. Such publication is
7827     desirable for two reasons: First, the system should withstand public
7828     scrutiny and criticism volunteered by interested readers; second, in an
7829     age of increasing complexity, it is an obligation to present and future
7830     system designers to make the inner operating system as lucid as possible
7831     so as to reveal the basic system issues.
7832    
7833     Corbat_ & Vyssotsky 1965
7834 root 1.387 %
7835 root 1.1 "Rule #7: Silence is not acquiescence.
7836    
7837     "Contrary to what you may have heard, silence of those present is
7838     not necessarily consent, even the reluctant variety. They simply
7839     may sit in stunned silence and figure ways of sabotaging the plan
7840     after they regain their composure."
7841    
7842     -- Paul Rinaldo
7843     [see also http://people.qualcomm.com/karn/rinaldo.html]
7844 root 1.387 %
7845 root 1.1 On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 12:09:59AM +1000, Chris wrote:
7846     >
7847     > In case you guys havn't noticed...
7848     >
7849     > http://slashdot.org reports that XFS is now released.
7850    
7851     Yes, and http://www.freshmeat.net reports:
7852    
7853     Error: Unable to connect to MySQL Server ().
7854    
7855     ;-}
7856    
7857     --
7858    
7859     ciao -
7860     Stefan
7861    
7862 root 1.387 %
7863 root 1.1 > The 'hypervisor' is a new term to me.. Are you refering to the
7864     > Transmeta CPU and it's native mode? If I read you correctly
7865    
7866     No its what the S/390 VM is often called. Its a supervisor for supervisor
7867     mode programs so illogically enough its a hypervisor 8). The IBM mainframe
7868     guys thing this kind of set up is routine. Unix is met with
7869     'You mean you cant run a new kernel on test at the same time as the old
7870     one' type remarks.
7871     [Alan Cox]
7872 root 1.387 %
7873 root 1.1 Godwin's Law
7874    
7875     As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
7876     involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
7877    
7878     [see also http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/]
7879 root 1.387 %
7880 root 1.1 ["Stefan im IRC."]
7881    
7882     [01:53:07] <coda> anyone know how to get emacs to stop creating the file.name~ files?
7883     [01:53:24] <JanMan> alias emacs=vi
7884     [01:53:31] <coda> haha
7885 root 1.387 %
7886 root 1.1 [remaining problems with OpenBIOS]
7887     Our SDRAM sizing and init code is not very good; we could use good code.
7888     The code we've been offered so far requires memory to work (oops!);
7889     requires a stack (oops!); or assumes a totally configured machine (oops!).
7890 root 1.387 %
7891 root 1.1 [Alan Cox on wether special fs's should have require "//" in their path]
7892     > No :-) It's a feature. Some things are going REAL ugly without such things.
7893    
7894     Given //ipc or freebsd, I think I'd pick freebsd. Thats how ugly the idea
7895     is to me ok.
7896 root 1.387 %
7897 root 1.1 "The code is self documenting." -- The Programmer.
7898    
7899     "I don't read C." -- The Tech Writer.
7900 root 1.387 %
7901 root 1.1 [Stefan Sebolth, on the CeBIT, while listening to the original c64 "Giana Sisters" tune:]
7902     Haaach, da war die Welt halt noch in Ordnung!
7903 root 1.387 %
7904 root 1.1 Remember, never ask a geek "why";
7905     just nod your head and back away slowly...
7906 root 1.387 %
7907 root 1.1 The thought of implementing something like text and binary modes for
7908     files is a about a frightening for todays kernel developer's as a mouse
7909     to a women in a typical movie of the 50's ;-)
7910    
7911     Ralf
7912 root 1.387 %
7913 root 1.1 It may be real, but it's icky. It's too traditional Unix ``I don't
7914     care if we lose 90% of our market base to NT if our competitor loses
7915     95% of THEIR market base!'' to be palatable.
7916    
7917     david parsons
7918 root 1.387 %
7919 root 1.1 ["some time ago on p5p"]
7920     > ($host) = gethostbyname('localhost');
7921    
7922     >Sadly most UNIX boxes don't add a sane alias to their /etc/hosts file
7923     >so that trick is not portable.
7924    
7925     % grep localhost /etc/hosts
7926     127.0.0.1 localhost
7927    
7928     --tom
7929 root 1.387 %
7930 root 1.1 ["some time ago on p5p"]
7931     On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:22:05PM -0700, Tom Christiansen wrote:
7932     > >But given that most slip drivers I have seen for OS/2 do not do this,
7933     > >the question is moot.
7934     >
7935     > I'll send you a free Unix system.
7936    
7937     Thanks, the doors in my house are well-balanced. ;-)
7938    
7939     Ilya
7940 root 1.387 %
7941 root 1.1 [Elliott H Mitchell on the reiserfs list]
7942     > Me thinks if unwillingness to use tar over dump will stop you from
7943     > using a better filesystem there will be lots of other reasons that
7944     > will stop you from trying anything new too. So it is not really worth
7945     > trying.
7946    
7947     Yeah, if a filesystem randomly lost files and the authors had no plans to
7948     fix it, that would kind discourage one from using it...
7949 root 1.387 %
7950 root 1.1 [Russel Coker on the reiserfs list]
7951     ... my old Thinkpad 380XD (Pentium-233 with 3.2G ide hard drive) running
7952     ReiserFS and exporting the file system over 10baseT Ethernet could
7953     outperform local hard drives on an AIX machine running JFS.
7954 root 1.387 %
7955 root 1.1 [Peter Mattis, author of GIMP]
7956     I can't say anything about Rasterman because I've never looked at any of
7957     his code. My only comment about Raster is that he should learn to spell.
7958 root 1.387 %
7959 root 1.1 [David Schwartz on linux-kernel]
7960     > ORBS does not do ANYTHING above try to send few LEGAL
7961     > strings to mailservers with LONG delays. So if you block ORBS you deserve
7962     > blocking :-)
7963    
7964     That's not the point. The point is that ORBS claims to be a list of
7965     validated open mail relays, and it's not. It's not supposed to be a list of
7966     people who deserve anything in particular. I'm sure if you talk to the
7967     people who have chosen to block ORBS, you will find that they have their
7968     reasons.
7969    
7970     DS
7971 root 1.387 %
7972 root 1.1 [WDR, 19991216 Fernsehen mit Manuel]
7973 root 1.388 Es ist ein Fall bekannt, bei dem sich ein Patient über ein Jahr lang
7974 root 1.1 geweigert hatte, auf die Toilette zu gehen. Dann haben seine Verwandten
7975 root 1.388 und Ärzte ihn dazu überreden können, endlich die Toilette aufzusuchen. Er
7976 root 1.1 hat dabei auf einmal 37 Liter entleert.
7977    
7978     Danach lebte er noch ganz normal einige Jahre, bis er, wie in Amerika
7979 root 1.388 üblich, erschossen wurde.
7980 root 1.387 %
7981 root 1.1 > - My Maxtor 27G drive ends up in PIO mode (non-SMP system, but likely
7982     [...]
7983     > Last time I reported this, I had a WDC31600, as hda, and the maxtor as
7984     [...]
7985    
7986     You committed a mortal sin in ATA............
7987     You never ever mix WD and Maxtor..........on day I will document why.
7988     Basically these two vendors have timings that are completely incompatable
7989     with each other on the same channel.
7990    
7991     IMHO, WD is crap..........however, you may split the two pieces of
7992     hardware and they will work fine under linux and all other OS's.
7993    
7994     This rule of "never ever mix WD and Maxtor" is OS independent.
7995 root 1.387 %
7996 root 1.1 [ALF2-Benutzerhandbuch]
7997     "Nur eine tote Festplatte ist eine sichere Festplatte."
7998 root 1.387 %
7999 root 1.1 Physicists write FORTRAN in any language.
8000 root 1.387 %
8001 root 1.1 [OpenBOOT 3.10.6 response to pressing "Ctrl-Alt-Del":]
8002     ANY word at all is a candidate.
8003     USE words to see the entire dictionary.
8004     ok
8005 root 1.387 %
8006 root 1.1 [SDF for POD Users]
8007     ... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - even Lisp has it's fans. :-)
8008 root 1.387 %
8009 root 1.1 <Xach> schmorp: i haven't been doing any gimpy things lately
8010     <schmorp> xach: well, who is doing gimpy things lately :(
8011     <Xach> schmorp: Mitch
8012     <schmorp> xach: ok.
8013     <Xach> schmorp: you are not keeping pace with the other germans
8014     <Xach> schmorp: you must work more diligently! FOCUS!! DON'T TALK!!
8015     <Xach> burrito, focus
8016     <Burrito> FOCUS you BABOON!
8017 root 1.387 %
8018 root 1.1 [Paul Miller]
8019     ... I find Knuth's attitude to be far more logical: "Be careful about
8020     using the following code -- I've only proven that it works, I haven't
8021     tested it." ...
8022 root 1.387 %
8023 root 1.1 Intel Inside -- Idiot Outside!
8024 root 1.387 %
8025 root 1.1 Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
8026    
8027     Bart Lateur wrote in message <383a4712.942513@news.skynet.be>...
8028     >Petrus Prawirodidjojo wrote:
8029     >
8030     >>So we must compete with Windows CE.
8031     >
8032     >"Please wait while your Toaster shuts down."
8033     >
8034     >"My microwave oven hangs, I have to reboot."
8035     >
8036     >No thank you. :-) I don't think Microsoft somehow can "automatically" be
8037     >the most obvious choice as a supplier of system software for embedded
8038     >systems.
8039    
8040    
8041     Quite so. Windows CE is rapidly losing what small market share they once
8042     had.
8043    
8044     --
8045     Neal Bridges
8046 root 1.387 %
8047 root 1.1 On 27 Nov 1999, sanjay Kumar wrote:
8048    
8049     > Hi folks,
8050     > i got some problem in using linux.When segmentation fault happens four five times continously OS is not working properly,insted of I remove the core dump and core dump bug ,Why?
8051     > please reply to
8052     > sanjay_rect@rediffmail.com
8053     > and sigma_btl@vsnl.com
8054    
8055     Parse error.
8056    
8057     ---
8058     Alex
8059 root 1.387 %
8060 root 1.1 From: Richard Earnshaw <rearnsha@arm.com>
8061    
8062     > Why do we really need to support compiling with -ansi when
8063     > including a non-ANSI header file in a C program?
8064    
8065     Because some vendors wouldn't recognize a C standard it if hit them. The
8066     amount of code that purports to be ANSI C code, but is in fact nothing of
8067     the sort, has to be seen to be believed.
8068    
8069     That doesn't mean that I don't want *my* program to be clean ANSI C.
8070 root 1.387 %
8071 root 1.1 [one of the few good us movies]
8072 root 1.388 Talk Radio Mediendrama - USA - 1988 - Regie: Oliver Stone * Sein Zynismus wird dem Radiomoderator Barry zum Verhängnis.
8073 root 1.387 %
8074 root 1.1 [guess the language AND the language revision ;)]
8075     ii = 44;
8076     p = &ii;
8077     *p = ii/*p;
8078     ii++; /* Don't forget to increment ii. */
8079     printf ( "ii = %d\n", *p );
8080 root 1.387 %
8081 root 1.1 > But many systems set the RTC while running Win*ooze. That will affect
8082     > Linux time then.
8083    
8084     Here is another microsoft Innovation (TM):
8085    
8086     They now allow you to run your BIOS-clock in UTC! (Just like
8087     Linux. Woops. Just gave it away...)
8088    
8089     Roger.
8090 root 1.387 %
8091 root 1.1 <Tommer> schmorp, for the next trick, do <frameset> <frame src=dataurl:> <frame src=dataurl:> </frameset> :)
8092 root 1.387 %
8093 root 1.1 auto accident;
8094     register voters;
8095     static electricity;
8096     struct by_lightning;
8097     void *where_prohibited;
8098     char broiled;
8099     short circuit;
8100     short changed;
8101     long johns;
8102     unsigned long letter;
8103     double entendre;
8104     double trouble;
8105     union organizer;
8106     float valve;
8107     short pants;
8108     union station;
8109     void check; unsigned check;
8110     struct dumb by[sizeof member];
8111 root 1.387 %
8112 root 1.1 [I like TV Movie's nexTView comments]
8113     22:40-00:05 (21) ( -34) ARD Mord auf hoher See Inflammable Thriller - USA
8114     - 1995 - Regie: Peter Werner * Stephen King
8115 root 1.388 verhunzt als Regisseur sein Buch im großen Stil.
8116 root 1.387 %
8117 root 1.1 Carmen Lucia Tancredo Borges wrote:
8118    
8119     I have a program written in Fortran that runs on an IBM RS/6000
8120     worstation.
8121 root 1.387 %
8122 root 1.1 I wrote
8123     > I hope not. chomp() should match the string in $?, no more or less.
8124     $/
8125    
8126     Damn shift key.
8127    
8128    
8129     Mike Guy
8130 root 1.387 %
8131 root 1.1 [rfc2635]
8132     The term "spam" as it is used to denote mass unsolicited mailings or
8133     netnews postings is derived from a Monty Python sketch set in a
8134     movie/tv studio cafeteria. During that sketch, the word "spam" takes
8135     over each item offered on the menu until the entire dialogue consists
8136     of nothing but "spam spam spam spam spam spam and spam." This so
8137     closely resembles what happens when mass unsolicited mail and posts
8138     take over mailing lists and netnews groups that the term has been
8139     pushed into common usage in the Internet community.
8140 root 1.387 %
8141 root 1.1 [CRYPTO-GRAM, November 15, 1999]
8142    
8143     The Doghouse: Microsoft Windows CE
8144    
8145     Microsoft encrypts your Windows NT password when stored on a Windows CE
8146     device. But if you look carefully at their encryption algorithm, they
8147     simply XOR the password with "susageP", Pegasus spelled backwards. Pegasus
8148     is the code name of Windows CE. This is so pathetic it's staggering.
8149    
8150     http://www.cegadgets.com/artsusageP.htm
8151 root 1.387 %
8152 root 1.1 : Isn't the point that (void)'grep EXPR, LIST' is now better written as
8153     : 'EXPR for LIST'? Or am I misunderstanding your point here?
8154    
8155     It really doesn't bother me if people want to use grep or map in a void
8156     context. It didn't bother me before there was a for modifier, and
8157     now that there is one, it still doesn't bother me. I'm just not very
8158     easy to bother.
8159    
8160     The argument against using an operator for other than its primary
8161     purpose strikes me the same as the old argument that you shouldn't have
8162     sex for other than procreational purposes. Sometimes side effects
8163     are more enjoyable than the originally intended effect.
8164    
8165     That being said, I'd never grep someone in a void context myself.
8166    
8167     Larry
8168 root 1.387 %
8169 root 1.1 [that one's only for insiders...]
8170     > : BASE @ . \ = 10, verified original base was restored
8171     Yeah. :-)
8172 root 1.387 %
8173 root 1.1 [comp.lang.forth]
8174     > Old Antactic Explorers Penguin Recipe:
8175     [...]
8176     > Start fire under pot, raise seawater to boiling point.
8177    
8178     Since it is very difficult to find wood on Antarctica, typically
8179     penguins are used to light the fire (due to their fat, they burn well).
8180     I also woudln't use any water, the penguins are fried fine in their own
8181     fat (you can use old fat to heat up the pot for another penguin).
8182    
8183     Note that most people in Antarctica have been seal-slayers and
8184     whale-killers, so they were rough people. Usually, they didn't bother
8185     with killing the penguins before setting them on fire. I'm glad this
8186     receipts aren't used anymore.
8187 root 1.387 %
8188 root 1.1 Sie muessen einen PC nicht einschalten um herauszufinden ob Windows
8189     installiert ist. Sehen Sie einfach nach, ob die Aufschrift auf der
8190     Reset-Taste noch lesbar ist.
8191 root 1.387 %
8192 root 1.1 > Erinnert mich an den Kerl bei mir in der Videothek. Hab mir DHY ausgeliehen
8193     > und er sagt doch zu mir: "Ist aber mit Untertiteln." Sag ich: "Na prima!"
8194     > Fragt er: "Wieso, was ist denn daran so interessant, wenn man nichts
8195     > versteht?"
8196 root 1.387 %
8197 root 1.1 [de.alt.anime]
8198     Bei meiner Videothek fliegt ein "Ghost in the Shell" Tape
8199     "Ab18" rum. Das machte mich irgendwie stutzig weil auf
8200     der Schachtel meiner 16er zwei Szenenfotos sind, die im
8201 root 1.388 Film gar nicht vorkommen (ironischer Weise direkt über
8202 root 1.1 dem "Uncut & Unzesored" Schildchen). Andererseits ist
8203 root 1.388 mir völlig schleierhaft, was es bei dem Filmchen zu zensieren
8204 root 1.1 geben soll. Nur die oben beschriebene Feststellung hat diese
8205     Frage erneut aufgeworfen.
8206     ji!
8207 root 1.387 %
8208 root 1.1 I do worry about syntactic clutter, ever since my daughter came
8209     in, looked over my shoulder, and said, "What is that, swearing?"
8210     [Larry Wall]
8211 root 1.387 %
8212 root 1.1 Der letzte untergegangene altisraelitische Stamm war der der
8213     Altpreussen.
8214     - Norbert Marzahn am 15.8.98 in
8215     de.soc.politik.deutschland
8216 root 1.387 %
8217 root 1.1 > > Aber die Theorien, die Norbert aufstellt, ueber zum Beispiel die
8218     > > gegossenen Steinformen, die sich hochdruecken, den fuerchterlichen
8219     > > Kometen, der im vergangenen August die Erde zerstoert hat und solche
8220     > > Sachen find ich wirklich Klasse ;-)
8221     >
8222 root 1.388 > Jau. Und erstmal seine Erklärungsversuche, wenn's mal wieder nichts
8223     > geworden ist (wo bleibt eigentlich der Planet X, der während der
8224 root 1.1 > Syonnenfinsternis auftauchen sollte?)...
8225    
8226 root 1.388 Drei Tage Dunkelheit und viele Trümmerteile sollte er bringen, gell,
8227 root 1.1 Norbert?
8228 root 1.387 %
8229 root 1.208 Marzahnismen: http://www.bruhaha.de/normarz.html
8230 root 1.1 Norbert Marzahn sagt: Ich besitze die Mittel, um
8231     "Rechts"- und "Links"-Radikalismus auszuloeschen.
8232 root 1.387 %
8233 root 1.1 http://welcome.to/levitenbuero/
8234 root 1.387 %
8235 root 1.1 <Xach> babelfish.pitney.org: "We may not get it right, but boy are we fast!"
8236 root 1.387 %
8237 root 1.1 Subject: GNU compiler
8238     From: "Steve"
8239     Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:05:03 -0400
8240     To: <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
8241     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0
8242    
8243     [the following was a single line, of course]
8244     I downloaded the compiler and am trying to install it and the
8245     instructions seem to be very complicated. Can you help me understand
8246     how to install them? There is no setup file and I have downloaded from
8247     several sites in the thought that I might have the wrong version. Your
8248     assistance would be greatly appreciated
8249    
8250     Thanks,
8251    
8252     Steve
8253 root 1.387 %
8254 root 1.1 [an "I am doing high end graphic design" type of person:]
8255     > Also, could someone tell me how to calculate DPI of an image? I have not
8256     > managed to figure this DPI system out, for example, if an image is a
8257     > 100?50 pixels, what's the DPI??
8258 root 1.387 %
8259 root 1.1 <tigert> xachbot, op
8260     <XachBot> tigert: I have an 88 magnum. It shoots through schools.
8261     <tigert> ahem
8262 root 1.387 %
8263 root 1.1 <tc> xachbot, acro FOOBAR
8264     -XachBot:#gimp- FOOBAR: FTP Operation Over Big Address Records | See FUBAR [Net jargon] (cached)
8265     <tc> just when you thought you had something to baffle xachbot
8266 root 1.387 %
8267 root 1.1 [the release of perl 5.000]
8268     Date: Mon, 17 Oct 94 16:48:04 -0700
8269     From: Larry Wall <lwall@scalpel.netlabs.com>
8270     Subject: It's soup.
8271    
8272     Okay, it's there.
8273    
8274     ftp://ftp.netlabs.com/pub/outgoing/perl5.0/perl5.000.tar.gz
8275    
8276     The first one who tells me about a bug in it gets shot.
8277    
8278     Larry
8279 root 1.387 %
8280 root 1.1 l33+ h4X0rz
8281 root 1.387 %
8282 root 1.1 # A random text generator using Markov chains
8283     perl -e 'while(<>){$f.= $_}@l=split(/\s+/, $f);for($i=0;$i<@l-1;$i++){$W{$l[$i]
8284     }.=" ".$l[$i+1];}sub a{$w=$l[1]}&a;sub b{print "\n"}while($w){if(!($W{$w})){&b;
8285     &b;&a;last if ($q++>3);}print"$w ";@p=split(/ /,$W{$w});$c=@p;until($s=int(rand
8286     ($c))){1}$w=$p[$s]}&b' big_text_file
8287 root 1.387 %
8288 root 1.1 > && d'oh! i knew that! can she allow her lusers to use deja? here is the url
8289     > && for the post with the whole description of how i used -P
8290     >
8291     > Well, access to deja isn't forbidden, but access to the keyboard is.
8292     > And there's no mouse.
8293     >
8294     > Abigail
8295    
8296     Wow. Someone else who reads usenet by osmosis... cool.
8297    
8298     Matt.
8299 root 1.387 %
8300 root 1.1 Ok, our threads aren't so bad. Python's have one big
8301     giant global interpreter lock. :-)
8302    
8303     - --tom
8304 root 1.387 %
8305 root 1.1 From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
8306     Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:42:19 -0700 (PDT)
8307    
8308     On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Hubert Mantel wrote:
8309     >
8310     > So the huge ISDN update in proposed-2.2.11 will be removed from the final
8311     > 2.2.11 release?
8312    
8313     [ Irritated mode: FULL BLAST ]
8314    
8315     Are you being stupid on purpose, or were you born that way?
8316    
8317     Go back and read the thread. Read why I'm irritated. READ. THINK.
8318 root 1.387 %
8319 root 1.1 Understanding is a three edged sword. Do you *want* to get the point?
8320 root 1.387 %
8321 root 1.1 ["MVS uses quite heavy algorithms for swapping"]
8322     On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 07:55:32PM +0200, Lieven Marchand wrote:
8323     > Last time I looked at it, it got to the point they had moved some
8324     > ASSISTs into microcode. IIRC, some manipulations of the process
8325     > block. I doubt Intel/Sun/MIPS/IBM is going to accomodate Linux quite
8326     > that much ;-)
8327    
8328     IBM is really really good on process technology. They have had to be.
8329 root 1.387 %
8330 root 1.1 MVS spends a lot of time running OS algorithms to allow full
8331     preemption that Linux wastes on running user applications.
8332 root 1.387 %
8333 root 1.1 [comments on the gcc-2.95 release]
8334     <QUOTE>
8335     I'm having problems compiling it for HP-UX 10.20. Any ideas?
8336    
8337     (I haven't actually finished downloading it yet, but I just know I'm
8338     gonna have problems with this crappy OS ;-)
8339     </QUOTE>
8340 root 1.387 %
8341 root 1.1 The Internet interprets Windows as damage,
8342     and routes around it.
8343    
8344     Roger Larsson
8345 root 1.388 Skellefteå
8346 root 1.387 %
8347 root 1.1 [configuring gcc]
8348     Noone should use --prefix=/usr without --with-local-prefix=/usr/local
8349 root 1.387 %
8350 root 1.1 'You can solve any programming problem with another level of indirection,
8351     except the problem of too many levels of indirection.'
8352 root 1.387 %
8353 root 1.1 [http://www.itknowledge.com/tpj/issues/vol4_1/tpj0401-0015.html]
8354    
8355     Z-code interpreters have also been written in Java; unfortunately, when it
8356     comes to cross-platform compatibility, Java's user-interface classes are
8357     finicky and unstable--just ask anyone who's tried to reason with the AWT
8358     on different JVMs.
8359    
8360     [and later]
8361    
8362     Pilfer is a practical implementation of two of the cardinal rules of
8363     adventure gaming:
8364    
8365     1.Anything that is not nailed down is mine.
8366     2.Anything that I can pry loose is not nailed down.
8367 root 1.387 %
8368 root 1.1 [the ||-operator can be thought of as "or", && can be thought of as
8369     "and", but how would you call the ??-operator?]
8370    
8371     >>>>> "NK" == Nathan Kurz <nate@valleytel.net> writes:
8372    
8373     NK> ?? -> huh?
8374    
8375     That's a great name. The huh? operator.
8376    
8377     <chaim>
8378 root 1.387 %
8379 root 1.1 `One of the reasons we continue to use Fortran is that it's easier to fix
8380     code written without attention to such details in Fortran than in other
8381     languages. To put it another way, Fortran is the only language where
8382     people who barely get by with their numerical skills can "write useful
8383     numerical code." Many times those people are the only experts in their
8384     specialty available to put a needed procedure into practice.'
8385 root 1.387 %
8386 root 1.1 [Moderator der Sending "Teatime" auf "Radio Okerwelle", 1999-07-12]
8387 root 1.388 Ich muß schließlich hören was ich sage, damit ich weiß, was ich denke.
8388 root 1.387 %
8389 root 1.1 [Dr. Dobbs #8, 1999, describing how you can AVOID downloading or executing
8390     Java applets, scripts and ActiveX controls while _parsing_(!) an html
8391     page]
8392     ... you must utilize IOleControl::OnAmbientPropertyChange with the
8393     value DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Before you can do this, however, you
8394     must call IOleObject::SetClientSite so that IOleControl will work
8395     properly. This is the reason you derive from IOleClientSite, even
8396     though you don't extend its functionality in any way. After the call to
8397     OnAmbientPropertyChange, IE4 will call your Invoke method to check the
8398     value of DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Invoke simply sets the correct bits to
8399     disable the behaviour you don't want and returns NOERROR.
8400     [Still interested in knowing how you can disable the "file not found"
8401     dialog box that will pop up when you try to parse a non-accessible file?]
8402 root 1.387 %
8403 root 1.1 [Linus, whom I quote rarely ;-]
8404     Message passing as the fundamental operation of the OS is just an
8405     excercise in computer science masturbation. It may feel good, but you
8406     don't actually get anything DONE.
8407 root 1.387 %
8408 root 1.1 Advantages of Windows NT over Linux:
8409     * It's easier to explain the crash was not your fault.
8410     * You've to remember only one solution all to your problems: Reboot.
8411     * You can use your mouse to type an email-message.
8412 root 1.387 %
8413 root 1.1 > 1) On the PIII, there is the capability to get a system unique serial
8414     > number from the CPU. Does Linux read this data already? Is there plans to
8415     > read the serial number and then disable the capability (maybe so you could
8416     > get the serial number from the OS)?
8417    
8418     Current Linux disables it and doesn't save the value.
8419 root 1.387 %
8420 root 1.1 [CRYPTO-GRAM 1999-06-15]
8421     "Microsoft set the security state-of-the-art back 25 years with DOS, and
8422     they have continued that legacy to this day."
8423 root 1.387 %
8424 root 1.1 [From "The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature", by Thomas Scoville]
8425     "In a world increasingly dominated by image culture (TV, movies, .jpg
8426     files), UNIX remains rooted in the culture of the word."
8427 root 1.387 %
8428 root 1.1 > If it is clearly documented that will not happen.
8429    
8430     Yeah, sure. Unfortunately, if the "correct" treatment of this feature
8431     means to change a dozen source files (and rth's comments make me fear
8432     that that's the case), the chance that someone, somewhere forgets to say
8433     exactly why these changes were necessary (and on what other changes in
8434     other files they depend) is far larger than I want to consider. We've
8435     seen this before. Lucky we are that some long time gcc-hackers are
8436     still among us, who might remark: Oh yes, that's undefined by the C
8437     Standard, but it happens to be an extension gcc supports ... Seen that,
8438     got the T-shirt.
8439 root 1.387 %
8440 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8441     From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
8442     Date: Fri, 4 Jun 99 10:00:16 PDT
8443     To: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
8444     Cc: craig@jcb-sc.com, jbuck@Synopsys.COM, mark@codesourcery.com,
8445     davem@redhat.com, chip@perlsupport.com, egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
8446     X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
8447    
8448     Linus writes, to Craig:
8449    
8450     > I haven't maintained a compiler long-term. I _have_ maintained a larger,
8451     > and arguably mode complex system with many more degrees of freedom and
8452     > thus choices than gcc.
8453    
8454     No, gcc is substantially larger than the Linux kernel (on the order of 10x
8455     larger, as anyone can easily verify). gcc does not need to deal with race
8456     conditions, so in that sense it is simpler, but in other respects it is
8457     far more complex than the kernel.
8458    
8459     [NOTE for the reader: this is not really true, as the device drivers
8460     bomb the comparison away, but the complexity argument still holds]
8461    
8462     [ personal insults deleted, perhaps the author is in need of a vacation ]
8463 root 1.387 %
8464 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8465     From: craig@jcb-sc.com
8466     To: torvalds@transmeta.com
8467    
8468     >I want the _user_ to be able to give input.
8469     [...]
8470     >I happen to think that the "explicit cast invalidates the alias
8471     >information" rule is the simplest and best one, and gives the user the
8472     >best control without adding things like new attributes or other ways to
8473     >let the user be in control.
8474    
8475     In other words, you believe you are a better language designer than
8476     the ISO C people as well as the gcc maintainers, despite the fact
8477     that you know, what, *nothing* about language design, and *nothing*
8478     about compiler design and, especially, long-term maintenance of
8479     compilers?
8480 root 1.387 %
8481 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8482     From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
8483    
8484     Linus writes:
8485     > Oh, you don't expect me to complain about bad code generation when I know
8486     > gcc could do better?
8487    
8488     Oh, don't worry, we expect you to complain, and in a rude and insulting
8489     matter at that. We're used to it. It seems that you were a nicer guy
8490     before you had so many worshippers.
8491 root 1.387 %
8492 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8493     From: Branko Cibej <branko.cibej@hermes.si>
8494     Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:07:09 +0200
8495     To: egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
8496     X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I)
8497    
8498     Linus Torvalds wrote:
8499    
8500     > I think it's a damn shame that instead of technical arguments _everything_
8501     > revolves around people reading the standard as if it was the bible, and
8502     > trying to make people feel guilty for not really caring. It's not a sin to
8503     > just want to get good code without having to do magic contortions, guys.
8504    
8505     Why, Linus, it's trivial to do! Use MSVC instead of egcs, then you can do
8506    
8507     #pragma optimize("a", on/off)
8508    
8509     around every single statement, if you like. It even supports anonymous unions
8510     _and_ structs, and is only slightly influenced by the ISO C standard.
8511    
8512     They'll even sell you a version that can generate code for the alpha!
8513    
8514     >:->
8515    
8516     Brane
8517    
8518    
8519     P.S.: Just for the record: I, a "real user" and (imnsho) a "clever programmer"
8520     who "know what I'm doing", at least most of the time, and who do not "read the
8521     standard as if it were a bible", vote for having a standard-conforming
8522     compiler that's not bloated by a ton of marginally useful (or even useless)
8523     features. If I want featuritis, I know where I can get it.
8524    
8525    
8526     P.P.S: They can't even spell "optimise" ...
8527 root 1.387 %
8528 root 1.1 You can have it Soon, Cheap, and Working; choose *two*
8529 root 1.387 %
8530 root 1.1 "Scientific" studies have found that a 2.2.x Linux router with
8531     fast-switching enabled, using Tulip 100baseT cards, can melt a
8532     high-end Cisco's 100baseT interfaces.
8533 root 1.387 %
8534 root 1.1 1) Thread switching is faster than process switching by a little bit on Linux
8535     2) Process switching on linux is faster than thread switching on NT
8536     3) Almost anything is faster than process switching on NT
8537 root 1.387 %
8538 root 1.1 [gimp-developers, on the use of keyboard modifiers for drawing tools]
8539    
8540     > Simple. Powerful. Fast. Choose at most two.
8541    
8542     Perhaps this should be an option in the preferences dialog? :)
8543 root 1.387 %
8544 root 1.1 [perl is cryptic??]
8545     Subject: @{$${->{{{{~{}~{{{NO CARRIER
8546     From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@iki.fi>
8547     Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:55:37 +0300 (EET DST)
8548    
8549     We have still a long way to go-- from the zsh-workers mailing list:
8550    
8551     : Just thought of a trivial way to take a lot of grief out of parameter
8552     : substitution. This patch makes the following valid:
8553     :
8554     : ${${${${(f)"$(typeset)"}:#*local *\=*}%%\=*}##* }
8555     :
8556     : replacing the equivalent but grotesquer
8557     :
8558     : "${(@)${(@)${(@)${(@f)$(typeset)}:#*local *\=*}%%\=*}##* }"
8559 root 1.387 %
8560 root 1.1 Long noun chains don't automatically imply security. - Bruce Schneier
8561 root 1.387 %
8562 root 1.1 > |> Spoken as a true C programmer. However you are wrong. Case-preserving, but
8563     > |> insensitive, is the CORRECT way for file systems. Capitalization should not
8564     > |> matter for interpretation of a file name just as it doesn't matter for
8565     > |> interpreting words in any human language.
8566     >
8567     > This is wrong. In German, there is a big difference between "paar" und
8568     > "Paar" (the first meaning "a few", the second "pair").
8569    
8570     The classic example:
8571    
8572     "Ich habe liebe Genossen in Moskau" - I've got dead comreds in Moscow.
8573     "Ich habe Liebe genossen in Moskau" - I enjoyed love in Moscow.
8574 root 1.387 %
8575 root 1.1 [do we need oo-style IO::File class in perl?]
8576     >_You_ aren't gonna code "use IO::File".
8577    
8578     And there's no reason for anyone else to, either, especially
8579     once Nick finishes the Larry-blessed autovivification of
8580     lvaluabled undefs in open(), socket(), etc.
8581    
8582     What's next, a String class for Perl?
8583    
8584     --tom
8585 root 1.387 %
8586 root 1.1 [some example of the kind of mail I sometimes receive:]
8587     i was just trying to help u out not hurt you in anyway ok i have the fbi
8588     working on something for me
8589     u havent done anything to me ok and the sherriffs department came by to talk
8590     to me nutting concerning y ok
8591     piece
8592     russ
8593 root 1.387 %
8594 root 1.1 [From "Basic Information about Unix", common commands:]
8595    
8596     pico (text editor for beginners)
8597     vi (text editor for advanced users)
8598     emacs (text editor for advanced users)
8599     ed (text editor for beginners)
8600 root 1.387 %
8601 root 1.1 There is no reason in principle that a Perl script shouldn't start with
8602    
8603     use Python;
8604    
8605     and appear to work exactly like Python from there to the end of the file.
8606     Except maybe faster. :-)
8607    
8608     Larry
8609 root 1.387 %
8610 root 1.1 > Perl6 gives us an opportunity to re-examine every feature at a microscopic level.
8611    
8612     just what I'm afraid of... I thought this was to be Perl6, not Perl
8613     2010.
8614    
8615     (Perl 2010: The Spaced Oddity?)
8616 root 1.387 %
8617 root 1.1 The X.25 specification is not a particularly easy document to
8618     read. Contrary to expectations, it does not make great use of diagrams
8619     and tables that help to explain the workings of the protocols that
8620     it contains. Instead the document makes use of many ambiguous English
8621     descriptions of the actions that should take place, allied with a complete
8622     lack of fluency in its prose descriptions, make for a very confusing
8623     document. It is a wonder that any correct X.25 implementations have ever
8624     been created.
8625 root 1.387 %
8626 root 1.1 > Joe: (walking into McDonalds) Hi, I'd like a Big Mac.
8627     >
8628     > Cashier: Okay, here's your Big Mac and here's your Coke. That'll be
8629     > $3.99.
8630     >
8631     > Joe: Uh, I don't want a Coke.
8632     >
8633     > Cashier: Sorry, they're bundled.
8634     >
8635     > Joe: What? I'm not paying for a Coke!
8636     >
8637     > Cashier: You don't; the Coke is free.
8638     >
8639     > Joe: But wasn't a Big Mac $2.49 last week?
8640     >
8641     > Cashier: Sure, but this latest Big Mac is far more innovative. It's
8642     > got integrated Coke!
8643     >
8644     > Joe: I already bought a Snapple across the street... I'm not going
8645     > to drink the Coke.
8646     >
8647     > Cashier: Then you can't have the burger.
8648     >
8649     > Joe: Okay, fine, I will pay the $3.99 and throw the Coke away.
8650     >
8651     > Cashier: Oh, you can't do that. They're seamlessly integrated. Totally
8652     > inseparable.
8653     >
8654     > Joe: How can that be? They're two totally separate things!
8655     >
8656     > Cashier: No, watch. (takes Big Mac, dunks it in a tank of Coke) See?
8657     >
8658     > Joe: Why did you just do that?!
8659     >
8660     > Cashier: It's a benefit to the consumer. Otherwise you'd end up with
8661     > two different, inconsistent tastes. This way you're assured of a
8662     > continuous taste across all your foods.
8663 root 1.387 %
8664 root 1.1 Threads are like salt. I like salt, you like salt, we all
8665     like salt, but we eat more pasta than salt.
8666 root 1.40 Rob Pike
8667 root 1.387 %
8668 root 1.1 From: Nathan Torkington <gnat@frii.com>
8669    
8670     Don't be bitten by Perl, get crushed by Python.
8671     Python: Perl for the punctuation-phobic.
8672     It takes 4 days for a python to digest a hamster, but only 2 days
8673     for you to digest this book.
8674     Python: it's really better but nobody uses it.
8675     Python: just for the whitespace of it.
8676     Join The Trickle
8677     Python: more popular than Dylan!
8678     Python: not written by crackheads in a gutter!
8679     Are you uptight? Try our new Python Hangups series.
8680 root 1.387 %
8681 root 1.1 Well Microsoft announced this new language called COOL which I can
8682     honestly say that I have seen NO CRAPPY CODE written in. OTOH it appears
8683     that to achieve this miraculous status by the simple technique of being
8684     complete and utter vapourware.
8685    
8686     Microsoft, taking the Business out of COBOL.
8687 root 1.387 %
8688 root 1.1 [From "Programming Perl"]
8689    
8690     We will encourage you to develop the three great virtues of a
8691     programmer: laziness, impatience and hubris
8692 root 1.387 %
8693 root 1.1 [Alexander Stepanov, creator of the STL]:
8694    
8695     Yes. STL is not object oriented. I think that object orientedness is
8696     almost as much of a hoax as Artificial Intelligence. I have yet to
8697     see an interesting piece of code that comes from these OO people. In
8698     a sense, I am unfair to AI: I learned a lot of stuff from the MIT AI
8699     Lab crowd, they have done some really fundamental work: Bill Gosper's
8700     Hakmem is one of the best things for a programmer to read. AI might
8701     not have had a serious foundation, but it produced Gosper and Stallman
8702     (Emacs), Moses (Macsyma) and Sussman (Scheme, together with Guy Steele). I
8703     find OOP technically unsound. It attempts to decompose the world in
8704     terms of interfaces that vary on a single type. To deal with the real
8705     problems you need multisorted algebras - families of interfaces that
8706     span multiple types. I find OOP philosophically unsound. It claims that
8707     everything is an object. Even if it is true it is not very interesting -
8708     saying that everything is an object is saying nothing at all. I find OOP
8709     methodologically wrong. It starts with classes. It is as if mathematicians
8710     would start with axioms. You do not start with axioms - you start with
8711     proofs. Only when you have found a bunch of related proofs, can you
8712     come up with axioms. You end with axioms. The same thing is true in
8713     programming: you have to start with interesting algorithms. Only when you
8714     understand them well, can you come up with an interface that will let them
8715     work.
8716     [...]
8717     You can't write a generic max() in Java that takes two arguments of some
8718     type and has a return value of that same type. Inheritance and interfaces
8719     don't help. And if they cannot implement max or swap or linear search,
8720     what chances do they have to implement really complex stuff? These are my
8721     litmus tests: if a language allows me to implement max and swap and linear
8722     search generically - then it has some potential.
8723     [...] Java is clearly an example of a money oriented programming (MOP).
8724     It might be successful - after all, MS DOS was - and it might be a
8725     profitable thing for all your readers to learn Java, but it has no
8726     intellectual value whatsoever.
8727    
8728     [Later, on OMG protocols like CORBA]
8729     I am old enough to remember all the networking standards that were coming
8730     out in the seventies. Who remembers them now?
8731 root 1.387 %
8732 root 1.1 [Stiftung Warentest "test", WDR 19990419:]
8733 root 1.388 "Schlechtes muß nicht billig sein..."
8734 root 1.387 %
8735 root 1.1 [/bin/false on solaris]
8736     #!/usr/bin/sh
8737     # Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
8738     # All Rights Reserved
8739    
8740     # THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
8741     # The copyright notice above does not evidence any
8742     # actual or intended publication of such source code.
8743    
8744     #ident "@(#)false.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.3 */
8745     [obvious invocation of exit snipped to avoid lawsuit. Yup, *1* line.]
8746 root 1.387 %
8747 root 1.1 <Aspirin> but ee uses imlib, and imlib is documented to take 4.7 days to start up on a 486 by Alan Cox.
8748 root 1.387 %
8749 root 1.1 When a tar built for SunOS runs under Solaris, it's incapable of opening
8750     or creating files with "lib/locale" in the path. It replaces that part of
8751     the path with "lib/oldlocale".
8752 root 1.387 %
8753 root 1.1 [Bruce Schneier in CRYPTO-GRAM, 19990315]
8754    
8755     "Microsoft prefers to treat security holes as a public relations problem,
8756     rather than fixing the actual problem."
8757    
8758     [further down: the official answer from Microsoft about a problem where
8759     just viewing a website would invisibly run unrestricted code on your
8760     machine]
8761    
8762     "Microsoft appreciates your input regarding this issue, however in lieu
8763     of modern technology being what it is, we all need to be personally
8764     responsible for knowing what we are downloading off the internet."
8765    
8766     [see http://www.panix.com/~dfoster/sec/chrono.html]
8767 root 1.387 %
8768 root 1.1 [Steve Funston wrote to me, after I unsubscribed him from gimp-perl for
8769     spamming:]
8770    
8771     >fuck you ass hole duh you are just a big fucker
8772     >>
8773     >>An error was generated by your request to our servers:
8774     >>------------------------------------------------------
8775     >>
8776     >>Your Email: bfunston@mich.com
8777     >>
8778     >>ERROR: You are not a member of this list.
8779    
8780     [and later, misquoting my name:]
8781     >mark is not only a big fat liar but he is an ass hole.
8782 root 1.387 %
8783 root 1.1 [How much of the microsoft shares does Bill Gates hold?]
8784     He has 19.8%. Paul Allen has 5.5%. Steve Ballmer has 4.7%.
8785 root 1.387 %
8786 root 1.1 > And what's wrong with being named Peter?
8787     If linus was peter, Linux would be called penix? (just guessing) ;)
8788 root 1.387 %
8789 root 1.1 According to Microsoft KnowledgeBase article Q216641, Microsoft Windows
8790     95/98 are limited to an uptime of *exactly* 49.7 days.
8791    
8792     --found by Vincent Janelle (Random)
8793 root 1.387 %
8794 root 1.1 > Leave that to RMS.
8795    
8796     If you had just sat through the horrific panel with Larry,
8797     RMS, Richard, and Linus, you would want to leave a whole lot
8798     else to RMS -- like a couple of megatons of the manure that
8799     he's full of.
8800    
8801     Support BSD/Linux.
8802    
8803     --tom
8804 root 1.387 %
8805 root 1.1 "The FSF is a cult -- don't support them." --Rob Pike
8806 root 1.387 %
8807 root 1.1 We are Linux. Resistance is an indication that you missed the point.
8808 root 1.387 %
8809 root 1.1 > Perhaps the cracker himself (itself? ;) isn't bright enough to delete shell
8810     > history, but his shrink-wrapped cracking tools might be a lot brighter...
8811    
8812     Some of them are. A surprising number aren't. A personal favorite of
8813     mine was the log from a cracker who couldn't figure out how to untar
8814     and install the trojan package he'd ftped onto the machine. he tried a
8815     few times, and then eventually gave up and logged out.
8816 root 1.387 %
8817 root 1.1 [on channel #gimp]
8818    
8819     [msg(Xachbot)] insult me
8820     [XachBot(xachbot@home.xach.com)] schmorp: David Miller would never approve of that.
8821 root 1.387 %
8822 root 1.1 [the creation]
8823     http://www.toodarkpark.org/caffeine-cgi-bin/textfile/net-hx.txt
8824 root 1.387 %
8825 root 1.1 THE LESSER-KNOWN PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES #12: LITHP
8826    
8827     This otherwise unremarkable language is distinguished by the absence of
8828     an "S" in its character set; users must substitute "TH". LITHP is said
8829     to be useful in protheththing lithtth.
8830 root 1.387 %
8831 root 1.1 Ich zog hier nur einen Pseudoschluss aus dieser sache, den ich nicht
8832     selbst schliesse.
8833     Norbert Harry Marzahn, selbsternannter "Judaaer"
8834     am 13.12.98 in de.alt.ufo
8835 root 1.387 %
8836 root 1.1 According to Gurusamy Sarathy:
8837     > "Resistance is futile, you will be modularized."
8838    
8839     No:
8840    
8841     use Borg;
8842     make_threat(-type => 'standard', -doom => 'modularized');
8843    
8844     --
8845     Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
8846 root 1.387 %
8847 root 1.1 "And over here, ladies and gentlemen, may I draw your attention to
8848     the 'posicks box', a mechanism within one of the late 20th century
8849     sub-I hardware gestalt integration agents (then called 'operating
8850     systems', this particular one being referred to as 'windows' by
8851     its commercial-mimetic sustainer), designed so as to provide the
8852     appearance and functionality required to comply with one of the few
8853     agreed-upon integration schemas (sub-I, of course) available at the
8854     time. Unsurprising given the non-integration imperitives used by the
8855     agent's sustainter, this mechanism was demonstrated to be an ingenious
8856     non-integration ploy that, while supporting the integration schema,
8857     failed to support the local interconnect schemas that this agent
8858     specialized in. This produced a classic focus rift in the knowledge
8859     pool, benefiting the sustainer in the short run due to the focus
8860     concentration facilities available to commericial-class mimetic
8861     sustainers. Practically, this wasn't a significant loss, in the long
8862     run, as neither the 'windows' or 'posicks' schemas were relevant to
8863     modern quasi-I agents. These two do live on, however, in a few niches.
8864     'posicks' is used as the integration schema between most nano-scale
8865     logic units (a fact that only a few meta-experts still need to be
8866     aware of), and 'windows' survives, for religious-mimetic reasons, as
8867     the human-communication agent in a few stereotypical toasters and soap
8868     dispensers."
8869    
8870     [Kenneth Albanowski]
8871 root 1.387 %
8872 root 1.1 Perl ist ein Schmerzmittel.
8873     Wenn Du bei der Speicherverwaltung oder der Stringverarbeitung
8874     unter C Schmerzen hast, nimm Perl.
8875     -- Kristian Koehntopp
8876 root 1.387 %
8877 root 1.1 > Why Windows NT Server 4.0 continues to exist in the enterprise would be a
8878     > topic appropriate for an investigative report in the field of psychology or
8879     > marketing, not an article on information technology -- John Kirch
8880 root 1.387 %
8881 root 1.388 [bei einer mündlichen Nachprüfung in BWL, Uni Hamburg]
8882 root 1.1
8883     Prof: "Was ist Agio?"
8884 root 1.388 Student: "Weiß ich nicht."
8885 root 1.1 Prof: "OK, durchgefallen!
8886 root 1.388 Student: "Ich habe aber Anspruch auf drei Fragen in der mündlichen Prüfung!"
8887 root 1.1 Prof: "Klar, was ist Disagio?"
8888     Student: "..."
8889     Prof: "...und was ist der Unterschied zwischen Agio und Disagio?"
8890     Student: "..."
8891     Prof: "...durchgefallen!"
8892 root 1.387 %
8893 root 1.1 Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@pobox.com> writes:
8894    
8895     > Just morbid curiosity,
8896     >
8897     > Are there _any_ unix boxes that _can't_ build Perl?
8898    
8899     Yes. Broken ones.
8900    
8901     dgris
8902 root 1.387 %
8903 root 1.1 "The kerastion is a musical instrument which cannot be heard."
8904     -- A Borges story in ten words.
8905 root 1.387 %
8906 root 1.1 "C combines the power of assembly language
8907     with the flexibility of assembly language."
8908 root 1.387 %
8909 root 1.1 ...
8910    
8911     <AOL>
8912    
8913     Me too!
8914    
8915     </AOL>
8916    
8917     Tig
8918 root 1.387 %
8919 root 1.1 ping -p 2b2b2b415448300d <hostname>
8920 root 1.387 %
8921 root 1.1 unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck;more;yes;umount;sleep
8922 root 1.387 %
8923 root 1.1 From: Dick Balaska <dick@buckosoft.com>
8924    
8925     I sit behind an NT dual P2/400 256MB for too many hours each day. It is
8926     "slow". One of my (fun) tasks is CD mastering. When i'm loading a 500MB
8927     wav file into the editor, the machine goes useless for two minutes while
8928     loading the wave file. Basically its just reading the file and writing it
8929     to swap. The CPU is at 5%. No Alt-Tab between apps during that time. No
8930     chance of putting the mouse over a button (too many dropped ticks). The
8931     NT kernel is just sitting waiting for I/O completions.
8932    
8933     Linux would be embarrassed to be that bad.
8934    
8935     I expected M$ to never fix this because its not "broken". However, i
8936     expect billg to start reading the above mentioned literal benchmarks and
8937     get really really pissed.
8938    
8939     Especially since i believe 1999 and 2000 to see Linux *really* start
8940     to cut into M$'s server market share.
8941 root 1.387 %
8942 root 1.1 > Hello I'm wondering if there's a lower traffic mailing list that exists
8943     > that's strictly important kernel announcements and not general chat. I
8944     > need to stay informed but I can't handle 250 messages in a 24 hour
8945     > period.
8946     >
8947     > Sorry for the insignificant post..
8948     > Nic
8949     >
8950    
8951     Thank you for contributing to the problem.
8952    
8953     -hpa
8954 root 1.387 %
8955 root 1.1 grep... grep... grep... (frog with unix stuck in his throat)
8956 root 1.387 %
8957 root 1.1 "If users are made to understand that the system administrator's job is to
8958     make computers run, and not to make them happy, they can, in fact, be made
8959     happy most of the time. If users are allowed to believe that the system
8960     administrator's job is to make them happy, they can, in fact, never be made
8961     happy."
8962     - - -Paul Evans (as quoted by Barb Dijker in "Managing Support Staff", LISA '97)
8963 root 1.387 %
8964 root 1.1 From: "Daniel P. Stasinski" <dannys@KAREMOR.COM>
8965     Subject: Microsoft Hotmail
8966     To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG
8967    
8968     I contacted Microsoft/Hotmail asking them to close the account
8969     of that was listed in the backdoored tcp wrapper source code.
8970     I also forwarded the offending code.
8971    
8972     The word back from them is that they will not close it. Theft
8973     of passwords and hacking does not violate thier terms of
8974     service.
8975    
8976     Daniel
8977 root 1.387 %
8978 root 1.1 Any UNIX-killer must also have:
8979     ...
8980     * cool name like Linux (serious, these fail: GNU Hurd FreeBSD 386BSD)
8981 root 1.387 %
8982 root 1.1 "Not all things worth doing are worth doing well."
8983     It's a phrase I use a lot. :-)
8984     [RJL]
8985 root 1.387 %
8986 root 1.1 As John Whittaker says: ``It's UNIX. That doesn't necessarily mean it's
8987     right.''
8988 root 1.387 %
8989 root 1.1 [Richard Stallman on the new _Pragma operator in C9X:]
8990    
8991     Amazing--they actually listened.
8992 root 1.387 %
8993 root 1.1 That "UNIX" term is very negative. People often associate it with
8994     SCO OpenServer, Wyse terminals, and 60 people on a 386. The UNIX
8995     that people know is just awful. It looks something like this:
8996    
8997     # less foo
8998     sh: command not found
8999     # more foo
9000     sh: command not found
9001     # emacs foo
9002     sh: command not found
9003     # ed foo
9004     0
9005     help
9006     ?
9007     quit
9008     ?
9009     exit
9010     ?
9011     DIE!!!!!!!!!!
9012     ?
9013    
9014     [Albert D. Cahalan]
9015 root 1.387 %
9016 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Stop blib warning in future releases?
9017     From: andreas.koenig@anima.de (Andreas J. Koenig)
9018     Date: 05 Jan 1999 03:15:37 +0100
9019    
9020     tim> Sure. Strictly speaking
9021    
9022     tim> use blib ':quiet';
9023    
9024     tim> would be most correct in style.
9025    
9026     Only German native speakers are allowed to treat adverbs adjectively.
9027     For the rest I'd recommend [...]
9028 root 1.387 %
9029 root 1.1 [A new U.S. Law implementing a WIPO treaty]
9030     No person shall circumvent a technological protection measure that
9031     effectively controls access to a work protected under this title
9032     [Or, in other words, applied cryptanalysis will be illegal.
9033     too bad --- ]
9034 root 1.387 %
9035 root 1.1 Microsoft - Is it going to work today?
9036 root 1.387 %
9037 root 1.1 Subject: Re: [gimp-devel] GIF plugin legal issues
9038    
9039     > Actually, my understanding is that Unisys doesn't currently enforce the
9040     > licensing cost on free software, but maybe I am mistaken.
9041    
9042     The general wording, spoken by an unnamed GIMP developer, is, if you'll
9043     pardon the language, "Unisys can go fuck itself."
9044 root 1.387 %
9045 root 1.1 [once on linux-kernel:]
9046     > >who are you why on yahoo when iprint sf16fmi i fond you i need drv
9047     > Does anyone have the secret decoder ring to make sense of this?
9048     he's confused about us showing up in a search match on yahoo, but needs
9049     driver(s) for his sf16fmi thingy.
9050 root 1.387 %
9051 root 1.1 > Did you try to compile kdeadmin from the CVS tree ?
9052    
9053     No I ran the KDE binaries. Im not interested in broken programs that
9054     include wrong #include files in their source.
9055 root 1.387 %
9056 root 1.1 [unix-faq]
9057    
9058     Someday, you are going to accidentally type something like
9059     "rm * .foo", and find you just deleted "*" instead of "*.foo".
9060     Consider it a rite of passage.
9061 root 1.387 %
9062 root 1.1 "There's one word that strikes fear into nuclear scientists..."
9063     "Oops."
9064     -- MST3K
9065 root 1.387 %
9066 root 1.1 Seems like 80-bit spills would be closer to IEEE, if not close enough to
9067     claim full support. Off-hand I'd say people would be happier with
9068     those numeric properties than with the current situation.
9069    
9070     I'll think about the esoterica (probably break down and ask people here).
9071     It would certainly make gcc the most reliable x86 floating-point compiler
9072     I know. Sun's does something similar to -ffloat-store by default (gee,
9073     look at how fast that ultra is), and Microsoft's runs off the end of the
9074     stack at run-time . I don't know what Intel's does, so I'm not considering
9075     it. ;)
9076 root 1.387 %
9077 root 1.1 >I was using the localtime function to change time_t into it's various
9078     >human-readable parts. I noticed that $year gets returned as 98 and
9079     >not 1998. I tested a few different unices and got the same result.
9080     >This is expected behavior based on the examples I've seen and my own
9081     >testing. My question is how is this y2k compliant?
9082    
9083     What part of your C library's documentation on localtime(3), the perlfunc
9084     documentation on the Perl localtime function, the perlfaq4 entry on `Does
9085     Perl have a year 2000 problem?', and the Y2K document on www.perl.com
9086     did you find to be unclear on the answer to this question?
9087    
9088     --tom
9089 root 1.387 %
9090 root 1.1 > * Have you ever wondered how life began ?
9091    
9092     In a laboratory somewhere at Bell Labs.
9093    
9094     >Why does it end ?
9095    
9096     Ask the X3J11 committee.
9097    
9098     > * Can you tell WHY there is life ? What is the purpose of it ?
9099     > * Can YOU do anything to make your life worth living ? WHAT ?
9100    
9101     To promote the the DEATH OF ANSI C! K+R FOREVER! DOWN WITH PORTABILITY!
9102 root 1.387 %
9103 root 1.1 "Unix *is* Perl's IDE!"
9104     -- Tom Christiansen
9105 root 1.387 %
9106 root 1.1 [Sputnik]
9107    
9108     Do you honestly think the Americans would mention a Soviet success? :-)
9109     A number of years back I saw an exhibition in the US on the development of
9110     supersonic passenger aircraft. They forgot to mention Concorde. It
9111     wouldn't surprise me in the least if most people at NASA had never heard
9112     of Sputnik.
9113 root 1.387 %
9114 root 1.1 NTFS by default adds unnecessary serialization to an extent that
9115     even older file systems such as FFS do not, and its performance
9116     characteristics reflect that. In fairness, it should be said that it is
9117     the superior approach for most removable media without software control
9118     of ejection (e.g. IBM PC floppies).
9119 root 1.387 %
9120 root 1.1 Never attribute to malice what could as well be explained by stupidity.
9121     - Hanlons razor -
9122 root 1.387 %
9123 root 1.1 Shallit's Razor: Never attribute to conspiracy what may be adequately
9124     explained by stupidity or incompetence.
9125 root 1.387 %
9126 root 1.1 According to Chris Nandor:
9127     > I thought about creating a web interface to input, edit, delete entries,
9128     > but that would have taken me longer, been more complex and less secure, and
9129     > offered no significant advantages.
9130    
9131     That one's in the quotes file. Thanks.
9132 root 1.387 %
9133 root 1.1 My friend who had a Compaq called one day when his built-in cdrom drive
9134     stopped responding. Their answer "its a virus. Reinstal Windows". So he did
9135     (?) and it still didn't work. He called them and they said "its a virus,
9136     reinstall." "But I just installed. If there is a virus, it came from YOUR
9137     quick restore disk." "No, no virus there, but you DO have a virus. My paper
9138     in front of me says so."
9139    
9140     He took it back and bought a Gateway.
9141 root 1.387 %
9142 root 1.1 9. Deinde, ne in posterum a XII kalendas aprilis aequinoctium recedat,
9143     statuimus bissextum quarto quoque anno (uti mos est) continuari debere,
9144     praeterquam in centesimis annis; qui, quamvis bissextiles antea semper
9145     fuerint, qualem etiam esse volumus annum MDC, post eum tamen qui
9146     deinceps consequentur centesimi non omnes bissextiles sint, sed in
9147     quadringentis quibusque annis primi quique tres centesimi sine bissexto
9148     transigantur, quartus vero quisque centesimus bissextilis sit, ita ut
9149     annus MDCC, MDCCC, MDCCCC bissextiles non sint. Anno vero MM, more
9150     consueto dies bissextus intercaletur, februario dies XXIX continente,
9151     idemque ordo intermittendi intercalandique bissextum diem in
9152     quadringentis quibusque annis perpetuo conservetur.
9153 root 1.387 %
9154 root 1.1 You obviously have not dealt with Microsoft Winnt 4.0
9155     and all the Service Pack then. While one Service Pack
9156     did somewhat correct the Y2K problem was not aware that
9157     2000 was in fact a leap year. There was no way to set
9158     the date to Feb 29, 2000.
9159 root 1.387 %
9160 root 1.1 "Ernst Lehmann, die Organisationsredundanz beim Cluster-Treffen"
9161 root 1.387 %
9162 root 1.388 HP Computer NEWS 3/98 about HP 2000/CN printer (page 24): "Darüber
9163 root 1.1 hinaus ... hat der HP 2000C/CN durch den Einsatz von Intel MMX-
9164     Technologie Zugriff auf deren Farbtabellen und kann so Farbbilder
9165     schneller verarbeiten" (A mistake made when translating. It's hard to
9166     get the wrong meaning if translated back to English, sorry.)
9167 root 1.387 %
9168 root 1.1 From: Robert Lipe
9169     > > I program computers with no screens and no keyboards for a living.
9170     > > Switches and front-panels are a LUXURY! :-)
9171     >
9172     > But I guess you are not _programming_ these computers without a keyboard
9173     > and/or screen.
9174    
9175     Are you familiar with the Vulcan Mind Meld?
9176 root 1.387 %
9177 root 1.1 Subject: Re: [fwd from comp.lang.python] Re: Python 2 ideas [Re: access
9178     From: Tuomas Lukka <lukka@fas.harvard.edu>
9179    
9180     On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
9181     > use pedantic;
9182     > use strict 'code';
9183     >
9184     > or whatever is the syntax to switch Perl into 'dull'/'pythonish' mode.
9185    
9186     use syntax 'python';
9187    
9188     Let's just embrace&extend'em ;) ;)
9189    
9190 root 1.387 %
9191 root 1.1 Thus it was written in the epistle of Larry Wall,
9192     >
9193     > Having discussed all this thoroughly at the Hacker's Conference this
9194     > past weekend, I've come to the conclusion that Y2K will be traumatic
9195     > primarily because people *think* it will be traumatic. A panic is a
9196     > panic whether or not it's justified. People get trampled in panics.
9197     >
9198     > It should be illegal to yell "Y2K" in a crowded economy. :-)
9199 root 1.387 %
9200 root 1.1 [rfc1925]
9201     Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick any two (you can't have all three).
9202 root 1.387 %
9203 root 1.1 [Alan Cox, why not port hurd to sgi, instead of linux]
9204     > A possible minus is the message-passing between the servers which might
9205     > be time-consuming.
9206    
9207     "Yesterdays technology, next week" to quote an OSI saying
9208 root 1.387 %
9209 root 1.1 UNIX versions of ctags handle the C language, and often Pascal and Fortran
9210     77. Sometimes, they even handle assembly language. Almost universally,
9211     however, they do not handle C++...
9212     [from "learning the vi editor"]
9213 root 1.387 %
9214 root 1.1 > correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a thread about this a few
9215     > months back that resolved the ping -f localhost as a ping bug.
9216    
9217     Indeed, as Alan Cox said:
9218    
9219     So get a non-buggy ping(8) client.
9220    
9221     and as Ecclesiastes said:
9222    
9223     Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been
9224     already of old time, which was before us.
9225     There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any
9226     remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
9227    
9228     Regards,
9229     Tigran.
9230 root 1.387 %
9231 root 1.1 SNMP stands for Security Not My Problem
9232 root 1.387 %
9233 root 1.1 [slightly broken, though...]
9234     /* "Hello World" in B for 64-bit hardware! */
9235     hw [0] "Hello World.*n";
9236     main(){
9237     extrn hw;
9238     putchar(0[hw]);
9239     hw=+1;
9240     putchar(0[hw]);
9241     }
9242 root 1.387 %
9243 root 1.1 > So what comes first the chicken or the egg? :)
9244    
9245     The egg. Always. By definition.
9246 root 1.387 %
9247 root 1.1 > > PPS: Robert, I just made my first y2k fix to that script ;()
9248     >
9249     > Better check your scsi cables.
9250 root 1.387 %
9251 root 1.1 Arroganz durch Wissen
9252     [Dirk Jagdmann]
9253 root 1.387 %
9254 root 1.1 [Re: Pegasus - Gut oder Boese?]
9255     > Weil er sie dabei ja unterstuetzt. Da er aber (abgesehen von den ersten
9256     > ein- oder zweimal) nur auf Anrufen von Rosa-Girl erscheint, koennte man es
9257     > auch anders herum sagen. wenn CU Pfeift, kommt er angaloppiert 8))
9258    
9259 root 1.388 was aber leider bedeutet, daß usa die Rennsemmel ständig mit
9260 root 1.1 sich rumschleppen mu?. ^_-
9261     Nur weil die Kleine die Bimmel hat!
9262    
9263 root 1.388 Und wer weiß, was dieses pädophile Pferd eigentlich noch so
9264 root 1.1 bezwecken will... ^_-
9265 root 1.387 %
9266 root 1.1 >James :\
9267     >
9268     >I apologize for adding a message to this possibly trivial thread.
9269    
9270     I like your sig. I hope you use it for everything you post.
9271 root 1.387 %
9272 root 1.1 From: Mason <mason@schwanda.resnet.tamu.edu>
9273     Subject: night of the undead ip stack
9274     Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:03:19 -0600 (CST)
9275 root 1.387 %
9276 root 1.1 > The person who decides to invent UNICODE support for Linux
9277     > is just asking for a black eye.
9278    
9279     But Unicode for NT is such fun!
9280    
9281     For example, the checked DbgPrint() bluescreens above DISPATCH_LEVEL
9282     if you try to print a Unicode string--the Unicode->ASCII
9283     translation tables are marked as pageable.
9284    
9285     Since as far as I know, printk() does not have any format specifiers
9286     that cause obscure kernel panics, Linux is clearly behind in this
9287     area.
9288 root 1.387 %
9289 root 1.1 Linux: a no problem operating system for no problem people.
9290     [Lukas Grunwald]
9291 root 1.387 %
9292 root 1.1 http://dd.sh/perlfs/:
9293    
9294     THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL (PRE-ALPHA) VERSION OF THE PERL FILESYSTEM.
9295     EVEN WHEN IT LOADS WITHOUT CAUSING A KERNEL PANIC, IT WILL LOCK UP
9296     YOUR MACHINE, DESTROY ALL YOUR DATA, KIDNAP YOUR FAMILY AND
9297     (DEPENDING ON SAID FAMILY'S CONFIGURATION) SHOOT YOUR CAT, DOG, AND/OR
9298     FIRST-BORN CHILD.
9299 root 1.387 %
9300 root 1.1 [a comment on http://dd.sh/perlfs/]
9301     Forget GNU/Linux. /PerL/inux will conquer all.
9302    
9303     kill 0,1 if -x '/PerL/inux'; # request kernel mode
9304 root 1.387 %
9305 root 1.1 [Tim Hollebeek on real arithmetic]
9306     On a machine with a sane floating point model, the results make sense.
9307     For example, my SGI workstation prints:
9308    
9309     0.00000000000000011102 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000020000 1.00000000000000040000
9310    
9311     However, a machine with the Intel FPU from hell gives:
9312    
9313     0.00000000000000000005 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000
9314    
9315     due to the fact that whether 1+x and 1 are the same number depends on whether
9316     the numbers are in the FPU or not.
9317 root 1.387 %
9318 root 1.388 [Grüner Tip/Arte]
9319 root 1.1 Ihre Nachbarn sind zu laut und feiern andauernd Parties? Kein Problem, ihr
9320 root 1.388 Bohrer wird nachts um zwei spielend mit _jedem_ Lärm fertig....
9321 root 1.387 %
9322 root 1.1 Remember, eating healthy doesn't make you live longer, it just makes it seem
9323     longer...
9324 root 1.387 %
9325 root 1.1 [M$ about unix development tools like GCC]
9326     By the standards of the novice / intermediate developer accustomed to
9327     VB/VS/VC/VJ, these tools are incredibly primitive.
9328 root 1.387 %
9329 root 1.1 > > Praha is nice and our university is interesting, since it is according
9330     > > to tests most complex and impractical computer science university on the
9331     > > world :) I just love it...
9332     >
9333     > Oh well, great that I won't be studying there...
9334     >
9335     It is really fun.... just now I have lesson (that reminds me that I really
9336     should go now) about set theory and infinity... it is really fun and very
9337     practical...
9338     for example that you have cinema with infinity chairs and infinity plus one
9339     person wants to see movie... what do yo do?
9340     Just let sit down the first infinity persons and then last person ask first
9341     one to move to second chair, second one to move to third and so on and
9342     everyone fits.. isn't that great to know? :))
9343    
9344     Jan Hubicka
9345 root 1.387 %
9346 root 1.1 > template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> A {};
9347     [...]
9348     > I think that this construction is allowed by the ANSI C++.
9349    
9350     No, it is not. What you meant is
9351    
9352     template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> class A {};
9353 root 1.387 %
9354 root 1.1 Jan Dubois writes:
9355     > A) perl-5.00553
9356     > path = \perl\5.00553\bin\MsWin32-x86\perl.exe
9357     > cc = cl.exe
9358     A performance analysis compiling with M$ compiler? Get real!
9359    
9360     [...]
9361    
9362     Ilya
9363 root 1.387 %
9364 root 1.1 >Shouldn't the kernel compile with all combinations of options.
9365    
9366     Yes. Feel free to fix it and send a patch.
9367    
9368     p.
9369 root 1.387 %
9370 root 1.1 [tomc]
9371     Jean-Louis provides four arguments in favor of the overloading of the
9372     logical && and || operators. Here they are:
9373    
9374     +------------------------------------------+
9375     | Other languages, notably C++, permit it. |
9376     +------------------------------------------+
9377    
9378     This one is hardly persuasive. Many languages do innumerable things
9379     that Perl does not do. Just for example, take:
9380    
9381     * Csh reparses and re-evals interpolated strings, allowing something
9382     like C<$cmd $var> to do interesting things.
9383     * The Fortran lexer (as it were), having no need of white space to
9384     infer tokens, allows C<DO I=1.10> and C<DO I=1,10> to coexist in an
9385     interesting way.
9386     * Icon has an entirely different notion of success and failure,
9387     allowing expressions like (X < Y < Z) to do interesting things.
9388     * Scheme has call-with-continuation, allowing co-routines to do
9389     interesting things.
9390     * C++ has template classes with abnormal typing rules even for that
9391     language, allowing parameterized meta-classes to do interesting
9392     things.
9393 root 1.387 %
9394 root 1.1 Make is like Pascal: everybody likes it, so they go in and change it.
9395     --Dennis Ritchie
9396 root 1.387 %
9397 root 1.1 perl -wlpe '}{$_=$.' file # Count the number of lines.
9398 root 1.387 %
9399 root 1.1 [not quite duff's device, but...]
9400    
9401     switch (x)
9402     default:
9403     if (prime(x))
9404     case 2: case 3: case 5: case 7:
9405     process_prime(x);
9406     else
9407     case 4: case 6: case 8: case 9: case 10:
9408     process_composite(x);
9409 root 1.387 %
9410 root 1.1 Is there any truth to the rumor that the number appearing
9411     after the words "Microsoft Windows" is the minimum amount of memory,
9412     in megabytes, required for execution?
9413    
9414     Craig Milo Rogers
9415 root 1.387 %
9416 root 1.1 Mark Mielke writes:
9417     > This statement is false. The simple fact that school textbooks teach it
9418     > to be indeterminate should be enough to convince you of that.
9419    
9420     This is just another reference point about the state of education in
9421     US (apparently in Canada too?).
9422    
9423     Ilya
9424 root 1.387 %
9425 root 1.1 [from p5p]
9426     > Now you know why threading is experimental and all, buddy.
9427    
9428     Experimental schexperimental. Anything that doesn't cause an
9429     immediate coredump is not experimental. :-) (Observant readers will
9430     note that this is a more rigorous standard than Microsoft's.)
9431    
9432     Nat
9433 root 1.387 %
9434 root 1.1 Needless to say, Linux awk is probably gawk, which has been taking too
9435     much steroids for a while. =)
9436    
9437     --Albert Dvornik
9438     <bert@genscan.com>
9439 root 1.387 %
9440 root 1.1 Subject: Re: zero width lookbehind considered slow
9441     From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@jhereg.perl.com>
9442     Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:40:37 -0500
9443    
9444     >*You* do not understand? Perl is slow...
9445    
9446     Ilya: You are formerly invited to go play in the python
9447     or tcl crowd instead of here.
9448    
9449     --tom
9450 root 1.387 %
9451 root 1.1 >What's it? Can linux be improved too? Or has it already been improved?
9452    
9453     Linux has never done anything so stupid in the first place.
9454    
9455     Linus
9456 root 1.387 %
9457 root 1.1 On the 8th day god created email. And got noted the world was good. Then the
9458     devil added HTML mail...
9459 root 1.387 %
9460 root 1.1 linux/lib/vsprintf.c: * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds fucked it up :-)
9461     linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/binfmt_aout32.c: /* Fuck me plenty... */
9462     linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/ptrace.c:/* Fuck me gently with a chainsaw... */
9463 root 1.387 %
9464 root 1.1 On 1998-10-11T02:37:57,
9465     Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> said:
9466    
9467     > Believe me Microsoft think Linux is a threat now. Its level with things like
9468     > java in their perceived threat list, so you can expect all the usual MS
9469     > techniques to start coming this way and very soon.
9470    
9471     Arm the gnus!
9472 root 1.387 %
9473 root 1.1 [David Miller after (another) endless discussion with Richard Kenner]
9474    
9475     Anyways, I tired (just like everyone else) of arguing endlessly with
9476     you, you're in the past, you no longer constrain my ability to improve
9477     gcc, so go away.
9478 root 1.387 %
9479 root 1.1 I received my copy of Visual Studio 6.0 today. I couldn't believe that it
9480     wanted to install the C++ compiler into a directory called:
9481    
9482     "\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98"
9483    
9484     But anyways, I just had to find out if it was finally possible to compile
9485     Perl (without PERL_OBJECT) with optimization (-O2).
9486 root 1.387 %
9487 root 1.1 [on perl version numbering]
9488     > So it could be 5.006 for the developers, but "ThreadPerl" or "Perl with
9489     > Multithreads" (or some such) for the journalists, if that's what
9490     > journalists need to make them pay attention.
9491    
9492     Down that path lies "Perl version 5.006, codename `Ticklish Uvula',
9493     was released today" madness.
9494 root 1.387 %
9495 root 1.1 [on perl version numbering]
9496     > elaine> 5.1 would be a good thing(tm) as it would draw attention,
9497     > elaine> etc. in a way that a developers versioning would. The
9498     > elaine> world is not populated by people who think the same
9499     > elaine> way. To that end, this would be a good change. Of course,
9500     > elaine> we could call it Perl99.
9501     >
9502     > To me, Perl seems to be recognized for it's language qualities, not
9503     > for marketing reasons. IMHO, perl may keep this difference with other
9504     > wintel product. More than that : Perl99, would let believe people that
9505     > it is not Y2K proofed, or still in beta (<1.00). So it's not a good
9506     > marketing name, anyway.
9507    
9508     Right. Then, to be Y2K compliant, we'll have to call it Perl1999. Hmmm.
9509     "The year perl left earth's orbit"? Maybe we need to get the NASA guys to
9510     put perl on the next low-cost spaceshot.
9511    
9512     Of course, then c.l.p.m's motto could be "We do not commit *mindless*
9513     violence..." :-)
9514 root 1.387 %
9515 root 1.1 Rule 1 says that Larry says that Larry has the last say, unless he changes
9516     his mind in which case he still has the last say.
9517 root 1.387 %
9518 root 1.1 > >I never said it did.. I should have said: Binary only drivers encourage
9519     > >poor drivers
9520     >
9521     > No it doesn't.
9522    
9523     Indeed. Its down to
9524    
9525     Profit = (units * margin) - overhead
9526    
9527     and the folks who decide "overhead" arent the programmers but the management.
9528     The folks who say "you have two weeks allocated to write this driver, then
9529     we ship it" are the folks to take the issue up with, and that goes source
9530     or binaries.
9531 root 1.387 %
9532 root 1.1 dig txt leap.yp.to
9533 root 1.387 %
9534 root 1.1 "The fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that nobody's after me..."
9535 root 1.387 %
9536 root 1.1 [linux-kernel on endianess issues with NIPQUAD]
9537    
9538     |> Do I read this correct?!? Is it more acceptable to have a bug[*],
9539     |> than a not optimal fix?!?!?
9540     |>
9541     |> s/optimal/stupid/
9542    
9543     What's stupid is little endian. <g>
9544    
9545     Andreas.
9546 root 1.387 %
9547 root 1.1 [Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
9548     ...
9549     A closely related question is `What is 1 minute before 23:59:60?''.
9550    
9551     Here's a good one: `What is 1 month before 1 February 1995 in
9552     Kiritimati?''. There was no 1 January 1995 in Kiritimati; they
9553     skipped a day by moving the clocks ahead 24 hours. Similar issues
9554     arise when asking about times that occur within smaller, more typical
9555     UTC offset changes. A number of obscure questions arise here, and I'm
9556     not sure it's worth standardizing all the answers.
9557 root 1.387 %
9558 root 1.1 [D.J.Bernstein on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
9559    
9560     Paul Eggert writes:
9561     > which I am calling the `modified TIME_TAI''
9562    
9563     Your time differences break down near leap seconds. Ever watched xntpd
9564     try to handle a leap second? Wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble.
9565 root 1.387 %
9566 root 1.1 For binary only drivers you can assume most vendors will build x86 only
9567     however.
9568    
9569     "We don't have the tools"
9570     "We can't support a non intel build"
9571     "We don't have that sort of machine"
9572     "Its not worth the time cost"
9573     "Whats an Alpha ?"
9574 root 1.387 %
9575 root 1.1 On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote:
9576    
9577     > The original message was received at Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:39:56 -0400
9578     > from mini [10.0.0.3]
9579     >
9580     > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
9581     > <mailproc@fred>
9582     >
9583     > ----- Transcript of session follows -----
9584     > procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
9585     > procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
9586     > procmail: can't load library 'libc.so.5'
9587     > 554 <mailproc@fred>... unknown mailer error 16
9588 root 1.387 %
9589 root 1.1 > Here is the difficulty with this discussion:
9590     > No documented problem
9591     > No reason to believe that the "solution" solves the unspecified "problem"
9592     > No clear understanding of the effects of this change on the system
9593     >
9594     > Why, this could be a discusion among AIX developers!
9595 root 1.387 %
9596 root 1.1 > This would be a reasonable committee-like compromise that might
9597     > satisfy neither of us (:-).
9598 root 1.387 %
9599 root 1.1 By default Microsoft has set Explorer to use gz files as VRML, you need to
9600     change the association for .gz / vrml from "start vrml program" to "always ask"
9601    
9602     dave
9603 root 1.387 %
9604 root 1.1 On 10 Aug 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
9605     DG> You're not programming MS-DOS applications are you?
9606    
9607     BP> Hell no. I wouldn't touch MS-DOS with a ten-foot network cable.
9608 root 1.387 %
9609 root 1.1 [Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
9610    
9611     Date: 10 Oct 1998 15:35:05 -0000
9612     From: "D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>
9613    
9614     Paul Eggert writes:
9615     > * 29 February if it's a leap lear, 28 February otherwise.
9616    
9617     If that's 1 month before 31 March, then what's 1 month before 30 March?
9618     1 month before 29 March?
9619    
9620     The same as 1 month before 31 March.
9621    
9622     1 month before 28 March?
9623    
9624     28 February.
9625    
9626     And what's 1 month after 28 February? 1 month after 27 February? 1 month
9627     _before_ 27 February?
9628    
9629     28 March, 27 March, and 27 January.
9630 root 1.387 %
9631 root 1.1 Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
9632    
9633     >Nils Goesche wrote:
9634     >> So make a security check first:
9635     >>
9636     >> if (status = UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK)
9637     >> launch_full_counterstrike();
9638     >
9639     >Hmmm. The way the worlds been going lately, AI wouldn't trust that code to
9640     >do the job. Here's the revised version:
9641     >
9642     >if(status == UNDER_NULEAR_ATTACK); /* Corrected dangerous
9643     > = instead of == error*/
9644     > launch_full_counterstrike();
9645     >
9646     >Now isn't that much more reliable?
9647     >
9648     >--
9649     >Email: cyrand@hotmail.com
9650    
9651     The following variant is less reliable but much safer:
9652    
9653     if (status == UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK); /* Correct dangerous
9654     launch_full_counterstrike (); = instead == error */
9655 root 1.387 %
9656 root 1.1 It is even more cheerful than that. Not so long time ago a customers
9657     of ours totally destroyed his NT installation on Alpha.
9658    
9659     He found on a manufacturer page, no money - for a download, "NT driver"
9660     for his particular piece of a hardware. So he followed instructions
9661     to the letter - "Installation Wizzard" and all that crap - and the thing
9662     happily installed clobbering, as it is customary in these circles,
9663     essential system libraries with its own versions. The catch was that
9664     this driver was for NT/Intel and these bozos did not even bother to
9665     check for an architecture or at least mention something in some blurb.
9666     Ooops! No chance even to try to boot anymore.
9667    
9668     The saving grace was that the installation was rather new, so loses
9669     were not big, and he had an opportunity to practice an essential skill
9670     of re-installing Windows NT. Ah, and yes, this was the only NT driver
9671     available for that hardware from any source.
9672     What do you plan on doing? Using a PA system for networking? :)
9673     Whats next? A *Smell* modem? It would bring a new meaning to packet
9674     sniffing!
9675 root 1.387 %
9676 root 1.1 "I'd rather spend 10 hours reading source code than 10 minutes on a
9677     technical support line that isn't"
9678 root 1.387 %
9679 root 1.1 [from linux-kernel]
9680     `This code fills 8 million seats, we therefore decide what's standard.''
9681 root 1.387 %
9682 root 1.1 [...]
9683     And especially with new machines users have a lot of clout. Several UK
9684     suppliers now carry Buslogic cards partly because they got fed up of
9685    
9686     "I'd like to order a dual PII/300, 256Mb of RAM, 17" monitor
9687     4 4Gig IBM disks, and a buslogic scsi controller"
9688     "We dont do buslogic only adaptec"
9689     "Nothing else"
9690     "Sorry"
9691     [Click]
9692    
9693     Alan
9694 root 1.387 %
9695 root 1.388 Fünfzig Prozent der Amerikaner wurden in ihrer Kindheit sexuell mißbraucht,
9696     während weitere fünfzig Prozent von Außerirdischen entführt wurden.
9697 root 1.387 %
9698 root 1.1 > Let's not forget that this is just an informal, free
9699     > software project. Unlke the US House of Representatives
9700     > we do not yet posess nuclear capability (certain RTEMS
9701     > users excepted, of course!).
9702    
9703     Hmmm, if some RTEMS users have nuclear facilities attached to their
9704     systems, they might be well advised to be careful using FORTRAN as
9705     their language of choice. The comp.lang.fortran FAQ states (with
9706     concurrence from resident X3J3 members) that "using a non-standard
9707     construct might start WW III, if the necessary (optional) hardware
9708     is installed"
9709    
9710     [Toon Moene in private discussion]
9711 root 1.387 %
9712 root 1.1 Newsgroups: alt.config
9713    
9714     L. Harris wrote:
9715     >
9716     > Testing
9717    
9718     you failed.
9719 root 1.387 %
9720 root 1.1 Roswell {Unit 6 of 5 Sam Borg} Coverup [Rev. joWazzoo - well mannered despammer]
9721     <JOWazzoo@WhiteICE.com> at We are Sam Borg Spam Assimilators Ltd. - Area 51 HQ
9722 root 1.387 %
9723 root 1.1 Perl is really designed more for the guys that will hack Perl at least
9724     20 minutes a day for the rest of their career. TCL/Python is more a
9725     "20 minutes a week", and VB is probably in that "20 minutes a month"
9726     group. :) -- Randal Schwartz
9727 root 1.387 %
9728 root 1.1 > alternative, when it comes to stability and power...Not to mention the
9729     > fact that bugs and fixes are very quickly available and don't come in
9730     > 18MB+ "Service Packs" :).
9731    
9732     What, you mean you _paid_ for service pack '98?
9733 root 1.387 %
9734 root 1.1 We got this INTERNET because we whan't more information ( to learn ) now it
9735     seem's people can't handle what they see. You say freedom is a mater of
9736     choice (well it is) you have the freedom to choose to carry your butt some
9737     where else...
9738 root 1.387 %
9739 root 1.1 Steve Orzel (phloam@vol.com) wrote:
9740     [...]
9741     : The purpose of the newsgroup is to help out other people that have questions
9742     : about a certain topic.
9743 root 1.387 %
9744 root 1.1 Mark Robinson wrote:
9745     >
9746     > Does any have any source code to games that I can have? Does anybody
9747     > know where I can get game sources(legally)?
9748    
9749     Here's the trial version of the three-room text adventure I'm going to
9750     write. I'm not finished yet, though.
9751    
9752     void main (void)
9753     {
9754     printf ("You are in a dark room.\n");
9755     printf ("\n");
9756     printf ("You feel a sharp pain.\n");
9757     printf ("You have died.\n");
9758     printf ("\n");
9759     printf ("!!! GAME OVER !!!");
9760     }
9761    
9762     (Don't tell, but I took some of the code from Quake.)
9763    
9764     --
9765     John Kugelman. kugelman@mnsinc.com
9766 root 1.387 %
9767 root 1.1 [mail I got after releasing a zip-password cracker, the second biggest
9768     mistake I ever made]
9769    
9770     From: "Tom Miller"
9771     Subject: Can
9772     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
9773    
9774     Hay man can you send me some hacking tips and tricks please
9775     send to kymmiller@bigpond.com
9776     my name is Tom Miller
9777    
9778     From: "Tom Miller"
9779     Subject: Wait
9780     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
9781    
9782     Hey man its Tom can you also send me any easy systems to hack and the
9783     passwords also send me any infomation about hacking websites thank you
9784 root 1.387 %
9785 root 1.1 From: lm@bitmover.com (Larry McVoy)
9786    
9787     [...] then think a little before flaming. Or better yet, produce something
9788     better. Flaming is easy but it is basically masturbation without the orgasm
9789     so why bother? [...]
9790 root 1.387 %
9791 root 1.388 Günter Höns <guenter.hoens@gmd.de>
9792 root 1.1
9793     Newsgroups: de.alt.ufo
9794    
9795     Offensichtlich ist noch keinem das Wasser-Wachstum aufgefallen, das sogar
9796     jeden Tag geschieht. Jeden Tag waechst der Wasserberg im Meer um mehrere
9797     Meter, ist dann naeher an der Sonne und verdunstet dann. Sogenannte
9798     Wissenschaftler haben eine abenteuerliche Theorie ueber den Einfluss des
9799     Mondes auf dieses Wachstum aufgestellt, aber inzwischen wissen wir es
9800     besser: Die Wasser-Molekuele werden von Neutrinos getroffen, und verdoppeln
9801     sich dann.
9802 root 1.387 %
9803 root 1.1 CRASH(8)
9804     no fs
9805     A device has disappeared from the mounted-device table.
9806     Definitely hardware or software error.
9807    
9808     Unix Version 7 Manual
9809 root 1.387 %
9810 root 1.1 On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Larry Wall wrote:
9811     >
9812     > Maybe Pi looks like this:
9813     >
9814     > =for C
9815     > i++; /* add 1 to i */
9816     > =end
9817     > =for C++
9818     > i.value() += 1; // add 1 to i, probably
9819     > =end
9820     > =for Java
9821     > system().foo().bar().i().value().please().increment(); // ???
9822     > =end
9823     >
9824     > :-)
9825 root 1.387 %
9826 root 1.1 > > USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW!
9827 root 1.387 %
9828 root 1.1 [on linux 2.1.111]
9829    
9830     The horrid underlining which was a feature with the monochrome Linux vt's on
9831     the previous two releases of the kernel has gone. Unfortunately, so has the
9832     cursor. A couple of brief experiments didn't result in me finding a way to
9833     turn it on.
9834 root 1.387 %
9835 root 1.1 [...]
9836     its a true story, it happend this weekend in a nice country
9837     between Belgium (wellknown for its Dutroux-case) and Germany
9838     (wellknown for its Bratwurst), lets call it the Lowlands...
9839     [...]
9840 root 1.387 %
9841 root 1.1 I get a sense of god-like proportions when I patch /dev/kmem with dd(1).
9842    
9843     Chad C Giffin
9844 root 1.387 %
9845 root 1.1 [usenet, an anology]
9846     Mary Green's car was smoking. She got worried. "Whatever should I do?"
9847     worried Mary... Well, as she drove along she noticed a florists shop. "Aha!
9848     Thought Mary, "Flour shops are full of thoughtless men who need to apologize to
9849     their wives. These men are the sometimes the same ones I see swearing under
9850     the hoods of their cars in the shade of a tree."
9851    
9852     "Brrring" said the bell of the door to the flower shop as Mary poked her head
9853     through the door.
9854     "HELP!!! MY CAR IS SMOKING!" Screamed Mary.
9855     "There is a garage right next door." Said the shopkeeper.
9856     "That's right," Said Melvin, "And there is a parts store across the street. If
9857     you ask for Fred, he's pretty savvy about that kind of stuff."
9858     Now Joe was also in the flower store. This was his first time in trouble, so
9859     he did not hear the 30 or 40 people per day who came in screaming about their
9860     cars smoking (mostly men, of course -- the ones under the shade trees,
9861     usually.)
9862    
9863     "Why don't you help the stinking lady!!" Screamed Joe. "It might be your
9864     muffler bearings..." he continued. Or maybe it's your deisel glow plugs or
9865     your tire pressure..."
9866     Now Tim, also new to the flower shop felt the courage to chime in, "Or it could
9867     even be your cooling system. Sometimes a hose gets a crack."
9868     "My car smoked once and it was an oil leak, where the head gasket was spraying
9869     oil in the manifold." Hollered Larry
9870     "Hey lady, why don't you get your car the patch if it's smoking" chortled Glen.
9871     Well, the hollering went on into the evening, and the lady finally went to the
9872     gas station and found that the heater core had a tiny split and was repaired in
9873     three days for a cost of $175.23.
9874 root 1.387 %
9875 root 1.1 > Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
9876    
9877     Sicher, das macht der Inzest, und die Isolation!:)
9878 root 1.387 %
9879 root 1.1 > Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
9880    
9881     Stimmt, deswegen waren sie wohl auch die ersten, die Hitler hinterherliefen...
9882     :-(
9883 root 1.387 %
9884 root 1.1 >Mt 24,34 Wahrlich, ich sage euch: Dieses Geschlecht wird nicht vergehen, bis
9885     >dies alles geschieht.
9886     >Und es verging nicht.
9887    
9888     So what?
9889    
9890     Ich dachte eher an:
9891    
9892     " 'Und sein Wabbel wird an einer Lanze aufgespiesst', wiederholte der
9893     Oberste Groesste Meister grimmig. Im Hintergrund knarrte etwas, als
9894     Bruder Pfoertner versuchte, das klemmende Portal zu oeffnen. 'Sind wir
9895     jetzt alle soweit? Befinden sich vielleicht noch andere Unwissende
9896     unter uns,die sich verirrt haben?' fuegte er mit aetzendem Sarkasmus
9897     hinzu. 'Gut. Wunderbar. Ich bin ja _so_ froh. Vermutlich brauche ich
9898     nicht zu fragen, ob die vier Wachtuerme geschlossen sind, oder? Oh,
9899     ausgezeichnet. Hat sich jemand die Muehe gemacht, der Heiligen Hose
9900     die Beichte abzunehmen? Ach, tatsaechlich? Auf die richtige Art und
9901     Weise? Und wenn ich nachsehe? Na schoen. Sind vor den Fenstern die
9902     roten Kordeln des Intellekts gespannt worden? Gut. Nun, dann koennen
9903     wir jetzt vielleicht beginnen.' ".
9904    
9905     Terry Pratchett, "Wachen! Wachen!", S. 15f
9906    
9907     Antje
9908 root 1.387 %
9909 root 1.1 [....]
9910    
9911     Da muss ich ja, obwohl ich beinahe meinen Humor verloren haette, leise
9912     grinsen. Ich darf zusammenfassen: Du bringst uns keine Beweise, weil Du 1.
9913     zu arm und 2. zu sehr ausgelastet mit der Rettung der Welt und der Zukunft
9914     und so bist. Ausserdem brauchst Du keine Beweise, weil sich Dein
9915     Gedankengebaeude nach eingehender Nabelschau als selbsttragend erwiesen hat.
9916     Finde ich gut! Akzeptiert!
9917    
9918     Da will ich nicht weiter stoeren,
9919    
9920     Antje
9921 root 1.387 %
9922 root 1.1 It seems that writing to /dev/vcs0 makes the console singing "Ugh,
9923     lalala, I love you baby..."
9924     --
9925     Pavel.Janik@inet.cz
9926 root 1.387 %
9927 root 1.1 On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Linus Torvalds wrote:
9928     >
9929     > Kubys
9930    
9931     Kubys is my evil twin brother. Sorry about that.
9932    
9933     Linus
9934 root 1.387 %
9935 root 1.1 > eieio stands for "Enforce In-Order Execution of I/O".
9936    
9937     .... and it is definitely my favorite name for an assembly language
9938     instruction (the non-native-English speakers on the list presumably
9939     don't know the childhood song "Old McDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O").
9940 root 1.387 %
9941 root 1.1 > It is *big* and never uses.
9942    
9943     That's parses like English, but I'll be hornswoggled if I can figure
9944     out what it means.
9945     --
9946     Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
9947 root 1.387 %
9948 root 1.1 [...] HP's PA-8500, for example, has 1.5 Mbytes of L1 cache on-chip. The
9949     company has described the 8500 as a cache SRAM with an ancillary CPU. [...]
9950 root 1.387 %
9951 root 1.1 From: Dave Cinege <dcinege@psychosis.com>
9952     Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:10:31 -0400
9953    
9954     Terry L Ridder wrote:
9955    
9956     > at some future date end up being released under the BSD License is what
9957     > is being discussed.
9958    
9959     Well my licence is bigger then your licence.
9960 root 1.387 %
9961 root 1.1 [gtk/testgtk, after dragging & dropping an object:]
9962    
9963     Drop data of type text/plain was:
9964    
9965     Bill Gates demands royalties for your use of his innovation
9966    
9967     [and the button reads]
9968    
9969     Continue with life in spite of this oppression
9970 root 1.387 %
9971 root 1.1 Joshua Waxman <jwaxman@ymail.yu.edu> writes:
9972    
9973     While DJGPP is indeed a C as well as a C compiler, there are certain
9974    
9975     A terribly succinct, as well as a true, statement. However, it has a
9976     certain amount of redundancy.
9977 root 1.387 %
9978 root 1.1 Compatibility with oneself is Microsoft's greatest strength. When they hit
9979     the 64 bit transition they will hit a major internal incompatibility problem.
9980    
9981     ...
9982    
9983     Peter da Silva <peter@baileynm.com>
9984 root 1.387 %
9985 root 1.1 >Hello,
9986     >
9987     >I am new to Perl. Can anyone tell me where I can download a full
9988     >operational Perl version for a Windows 95 system?
9989     >
9990    
9991     Of course it all depends on what you mean by "a full operational Perl
9992     version" Perl on Win32 has limitations that are largely due to the
9993     nature of the underlying OS, Perl on Win95 has further limitations
9994     compared with NT due to its own shortcomings .
9995 root 1.387 %
9996 root 1.1 An injunction delaying Windows 98 would clearly have a negative impact
9997     on the country as a whole.
9998     Compaq President & CEO Eckhard Pfeiffer,
9999     explaining why Microsoft shouldn't be
10000     prosecuted under anti-monopoly laws.
10001 root 1.387 %
10002 root 1.1 With a PC, I always felt limited by the software available. On Unix, I am
10003     limited by my knowledge. --Peter J. Schoenster <pschon@baste.magibox.net>
10004 root 1.387 %
10005 root 1.1 There is a need to keep from being locked into Open Systems. --IBM sales rep
10006 root 1.387 %
10007 root 1.1 In comp.lang.perl.misc,
10008     Stylin <stylinsty@yahoo.comREMOVE> writes:
10009     :Can anyone point me to the algorithm for creating a unique id?
10010    
10011     $id = `cat /dev/kmem`;
10012    
10013     --tom
10014     --
10015     Real programmers can write assembly code in any language. :-)
10016     --Larry Wall in <8571@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>
10017 root 1.387 %
10018 root 1.1 Newsgroup: comp.lang.perl.misc
10019     Subject: Larry 1 Bill 0
10020 root 1.387 %
10021 root 1.1 On 3 Jul 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
10022    
10023     > The only problem with these AIs is that they don't handle references
10024     > to themselves as AIs very well. In faSegmentation fault (core dumped)
10025     > NO CARRIER
10026     > !@*&#@#%T^@&*(GU*SD*(@!&*(@#R(*FERHGH*(@#(&$&#@Y!&R
10027 root 1.387 %
10028 root 1.1 > People come here to ask questions, not for intellectual gratification, but
10029     > rather they are seeking solutions. As such, the incorrect answer was
10030     > better.
10031    
10032     There's something... terribly wrong with this statement. I can't quite put
10033     my finger on it. Hmmm.
10034 root 1.387 %
10035 root 1.1 comp.lang.c does not exist to accomodate the laziness of those who cannot be
10036     bothered to learn netiquette. That's what comp.lang.c++ is for.
10037 root 1.387 %
10038 root 1.1 |> : > but... a microwave is an example of an embedded system,
10039     |>
10040     |> : Who says? He just said it was a microwave. He didn't say it was
10041     |> : a free-standing implimentation.
10042     |>
10043     |> This is approaching arguing for the sake of argument. Have you
10044     |> ever seen a microwave oven that supports a hosted C environment?
10045    
10046     The Lipton Ritchie Model 8 did. I'm sure that many posters will
10047     point out that Lipton's implementation of the stdio libraries was
10048     horrendously buggy. It was, but it was still a great system. It
10049     remains the only C implementation I know of that could be used to
10050     build Bison, and then cook it.
10051    
10052     Viva la buffalo burgers.
10053 root 1.387 %
10054 root 1.1 A strategically-placed PDP-11 can be used to heat your entire
10055     home. I've got one in my basement, next to a large box of "She's
10056     The Sheriff" drink coasters. I sold my furnace years ago. The
10057     Digital Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning Corporation
10058     can be found online at http://www.dhvacc.com/.
10059 root 1.387 %
10060 root 1.1 The lbxproxy program has various options, all of which are optional.
10061     -- lbxproxy(1)
10062 root 1.387 %
10063 root 1.1 Re: Where to learn Windows programming...
10064    
10065     |> I'll take a Schildt book any day, thanks.
10066    
10067     Great. I'm expecting to see the line above as a back-cover blurb
10068     on the next "Bullschildt: The Complete Reference".
10069 root 1.387 %
10070 root 1.1 Subject: Re: The wrong position of while, if and else?
10071    
10072     that's some ugly piece of code buddy...
10073 root 1.387 %
10074 root 1.1 In article <1998062718481700.OAA03186@ladder01.news.aol.com>, eyrei@aol.com (EYREI) writes:
10075     |> I have recently started learning the C Language. I have created a simple file
10076     |> to determine whether or not a number is Prime. When I run it, the program
10077     |> crashes with the error message :- Unhandled Exception :- General Protection
10078     |> Exception 0x5FD7:0x379F. Prime(1) Processor Fault.
10079    
10080     |> What does this mean.
10081    
10082     It means you've got a broken operating system, and should immediately
10083     install [free|net|open]BSD[OS] or Linux.
10084 root 1.387 %
10085 root 1.1 Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
10086    
10087     On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Emulov wrote:
10088     > Hi, i don't know if this is a stupid question..
10089    
10090     Off-topic, too! Imagine that.
10091 root 1.387 %
10092 root 1.1 "Right now we are the most shit hot piece of PC networking software on the
10093     planet. The only people who can touch us are FreeBSD (who also dont do
10094     streams)."
10095     -- Alan Cox, in "Streams and Linux"
10096 root 1.387 %
10097 root 1.1 "Perl combines all of the worst aspects of BASIC, C and line noise."
10098     - Keith Packard <keithp@ncd.com>
10099 root 1.387 %
10100 root 1.1 Lord Fellatio <richter_m@hotmail.com>
10101    
10102     >Wo soll das Loch denn dann sein? Im Meeresboden?
10103    
10104     Klaro.
10105    
10106     >Von oben duerfte man es also ueberhaupt nicht sehen
10107     >koennen, da ueber dem potentiellen Loch im Meeresboden doch
10108     >wahrscheinlich erstmal Wasser und dann viel Eis liegen wuerde. Wie
10109     >verhindern die Ausserirdischen denn, dass Wasser ins Loch einstroemt?
10110    
10111 root 1.388 Na ist doch völlig logo, mit nem rotierenden Traktorstrahl. Die
10112 root 1.1 Energie klauen die ?r***e dem Erdmagnetfeld.
10113    
10114     >Gibt es da einen kosmischen Badewannenstoepsel? Haben sie es mit
10115     >Eisbergen verstopft? Oder benutzen sie das einstroemende Wasser zu
10116     >Kajakfahrten bis hinunter zum Suedpol? (Das waere doch auch endlich
10117     >mal eine einleuchtende Erklaerung fuer die Eismassen, die die
10118     >Antarktis bedecken - man muesste halt nur, der Kontinentaldrift
10119     >folgend, immer wieder neue Schaechte bohren. Oder die Kontinentaldrift
10120     >einfach wegdiskutieren...)
10121    
10122     Die enorme Zentrifugalkraft im Erdinnern schleudert das Wasser wieder
10123     am Nordpolpol raus, falls der Traktorstrahl versagen sollte (Dies
10124     passiert immer dann, wenn das Erdmagnetfeld umkippt). Nun kommt sicher
10125 root 1.388 der Einwand, die Erde würde zu langsam rotieren. Das ist nur bedingt
10126     richtig. Richtig ist hingegen, daß die Rotationsgeschwindigkeit im
10127     Erdinnern um den Faktor 1000 (ca; sehr schwer zu messen: Magma) größer
10128     ist als auf der Erdoberfläche. Dies ist auch die Ursache für die
10129 root 1.1 Kontinentaldrift und die Mondphasen.
10130    
10131     Die Mondphasen wiederum beeinflussen das Erdmagnetfeld und sind daher
10132 root 1.388 die Ursache für die Sonnenflecken. Den Sonnenflecken haben wir auch
10133     die momentane Klimaveränderung zu verdanken. Auf der anderen Seite hat
10134     die Zunahme der Treibhausgase eine Erhöhung des Reflektionsvermögens
10135     der Atmosphäre zur Folge, welches dazu führt, daß ein Teil der
10136     Sonnenenergie zur Sonne zurückreflektiert wird. Dies heizt wiederum
10137     die Sonnenflecken auf und verkürzt deren Zyklus. All dies wird sich in
10138     den nächten Monaten so aufschaukeln, daß vorraussichtlich im Novemner
10139 root 1.1 2002 das Erdmagnetfeld zusammenbrechen wird. Wie damals bei den Dinos.
10140     Nur war dort ein Kometeneinschlag die Ursache.
10141    
10142     cu in hell 2002
10143 root 1.387 %
10144 root 1.1 "Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '85, Windows '95"
10145 root 1.387 %
10146 root 1.1 >In unix, one might say 'man 3 crypt'.
10147    
10148     Of course, on a Solaris system this won't give you what you want. You
10149     get a message that it can't find the man page for 3. It then prints
10150     the man page for crypt(1).
10151    
10152     Of course, all a beginner has to do is figure out that the 3 is the
10153     section number in the Unix manual. He can then use man man to find
10154     that on Solaris one uses -s to specify the section so he'll try
10155    
10156     man -s3 crypt
10157    
10158     Unfortunately, that doesn't work either. He'll get the message "No
10159     entry for crypt in section(s) 3 of the manual."
10160    
10161     If he doesn't give up, he can go back to the manual page for man and
10162     find that the -a switch prints all matching manual pages. Or perhaps
10163     he can figure out to use the command
10164    
10165     man -s3 Intro.3
10166    
10167     to get a list of everything in section 3. He'll then find out that
10168     crypt is in section 3C so he should use
10169    
10170     man -s3c crypt
10171    
10172     Gee. I don't understand why beginners have so much trouble with this
10173     stuff. I've only been programming Unix for 15 years and I don't have
10174     any trouble.
10175     --
10176     Michael M Rubenstein
10177 root 1.387 %
10178 root 1.1 Take a moment to consider these lines:
10179    
10180     %OVERLOAD=( '""' => sub { join("", @{$_[0]}) } );
10181    
10182     sub html { my($type)=shift; bless ["<$type>", @_, "</$type>"]; }
10183    
10184     :-) I *love* Perl 5! Thankyou Larry and Ilya.
10185    
10186     Regards,
10187     Tim Bunce.
10188    
10189     p.s. If you didn't get it, think about recursive data types: html(html())
10190     p.p.s. I'll turn this into a much more practical example in a day or two.
10191     p.p.p.s. It's a pity that overloads are not inherited. Is this a bug?
10192 root 1.387 %
10193 root 1.1 From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10194    
10195     ...
10196    
10197     > now is evil". This only shows two things: you never looked at the bad
10198     > experiences of the industry where following a rotten design and
10199     > keeping backward compatibility lead to unusable systems. And second:
10200    
10201     I worked for 3com. I know eveyrhting about following a rotten design until
10202     its unusable, believe me I do.
10203 root 1.387 %
10204 root 1.1 Ok(slow) -> !NeedComputer
10205    
10206     Semour Cray
10207 root 1.387 %
10208 root 1.1 Ullrich Jans at University of Karlsruhe, Germany:
10209    
10210     Oh Gott! Es ist voller crons!
10211 root 1.387 %
10212 root 1.1 From: p00h <p00h@MONMOUTH.COM>
10213     Subject: Re: AOL for Windows DoS/Exploit
10214    
10215     aol supports PARTIAL html, its like win95's implementation of tcp/ip
10216     it only supports parts of it
10217 root 1.387 %
10218 root 1.1 egcs/gcc/gcse.c:
10219     /* Help stamp out big monolithic functions! */
10220 root 1.387 %
10221 root 1.1 [...] Yes, I'm being sarcastic. Especially regarding HPPA assembler syntax
10222     as provided by HP, which was designed by someone who should not have been
10223     let near a language-design project like that, too often "little languages",
10224     whether assemblers, tools, or C++, are designed by people who are unaware
10225     of, or give little thought to, the outright readability of code written in
10226     the language, in the sense that the basic semantics should be fairly obvious
10227     *without* the reader having to memorize lots of semantic information.
10228    
10229     (In HPPA assembler's case, one glaring stupidity was the nullified branches,
10230     which have completely different semantics depending on whether the label
10231     being branched to happens to assemble to a negative or positive offset! A
10232     smarter design would have required the programmer to specify whether such a
10233     branch was a "forward" or "backward" branch explicitly, then the assembler
10234     and/or linker would complain if reality didn't match the programmer's
10235     specification. I've never looked into whether GNU's HPPA as fixes this
10236     botch; I gather GNU as fixes many botches, though, so it wouldn't surprise
10237     me if it did, even though that might make for some compatibility problems
10238     with existing HP as code.) [...]
10239    
10240     tq vm, (burley)
10241 root 1.387 %
10242 root 1.1 libc/posix/regex.h:
10243     /* The following two types have to be signed and unsigned integer type
10244     wide enough to hold a value of a pointer. For most ANSI compilers
10245     ptrdiff_t and size_t should be likely OK. Still size of these two
10246     types is 2 for Microsoft C. Ugh... */
10247     typedef long int s_reg_t;
10248     typedef unsigned long int active_reg_t;
10249 root 1.387 %
10250 root 1.1 libc/db2/db.h:
10251     /*
10252     * While Microsoft's compiler is ANSI C compliant, it doesn't have _STDC_
10253     * defined by default, you specify a command line flag or #pragma to turn
10254     * it on. Don't do that, however, because some of Microsoft's own header
10255     * files won't compile.
10256     */
10257 root 1.387 %
10258 root 1.1 > UTC variation and begining and ending dates of DST (if observed) would be
10259     > great.
10260    
10261     I answered only the places I can comment on.
10262    
10263     > BASSAS DA INDIA
10264    
10265     This rock is below water half of the time!
10266     If any inhabitants have been there, I do not think they observe DST
10267     on a regular basis! ;-)
10268 root 1.387 %
10269 root 1.1 # ./test-plugin.pl
10270     Bizarre copy of CODE in sassign at /root/.gimp/plug-ins/test-plugin.pl line 40.
10271     wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)
10272 root 1.387 %
10273 root 1.1 >
10274     > The "where do you want to go today?" generation has taken the
10275     > developer out of the "programmer" by removing the vital, development
10276     > tools from the environment and precanning software.
10277    
10278     No kidding. Point. Click. Point. Click. Point. Click. Brain Atrophy.
10279 root 1.387 %
10280 root 1.1 Lars Chr Hausmann <36haus@but.auc.dk> writes:
10281    
10282     >Hello!
10283    
10284     >I have to write something about, what Perl is.
10285     >I need some crystal clear info about, what perl is. So if any of you
10286     >would be so kind just to mail. Then I would be grateful!
10287    
10288    
10289     Perl.
10290    
10291     regards
10292     jobst
10293 root 1.387 %
10294 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Cyrix 6x86MX and Centaur C6 CPUs in 2.1.102
10295     From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10296     Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:31:02 +0100 (BST)
10297    
10298     > Well, that depends. They SHOULD be. By Intel 'standards' *laff*, they have
10299     > to be identical stepping, indicating identical features. However, I've
10300    
10301     They don't. Pentiums have fairly strict rules, P6/PII much less. Also Intel
10302     are pretty good at following the MP 1.1/1.4 standard its the motherboard
10303     makers who get it wrong - primarily the BIOS is full of bugs. It appears
10304     nobody tests bios code against specs any more. It looks like they do
10305     compile flash, boot 95, boot NT, ship. The quality of bios code has dived to
10306     the absolute pits.
10307 root 1.387 %
10308 root 1.1 Unix never says `Please.' -- Rob Pike
10309 root 1.387 %
10310 root 1.1 > What about: . scriptname
10311     > ------------------^ this is a dot!
10312    
10313     Funny, it looks like a "p" to me.
10314 root 1.387 %
10315 root 1.1 A computer without Microsoft and IBM is like chocolate cake without
10316     ketchup and mustard
10317 root 1.387 %
10318 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Challange for perl `GURUS
10319    
10320     vimal gajjar wrote:
10321     >
10322     > Hi there,
10323     > Here is a small challange. Is it possible to have a perl
10324     > code which takes e.g. three parameters as input. time, val1, val2. and
10325     > the name of the prog. is say challange.pl. Now if i execute
10326     > "challange.pl 10 5 2" this perl script wille consume
10327     > 5% of cpu
10328     > 2 Mb of RAM
10329     > for the period of 10 Seconds.
10330     >
10331     > can one of the gurus take this challange?
10332    
10333     Examining the 5 copies of this post has consumed 5% of the
10334     brain power I allocate to reviewing c.l.p.m, about 10 seconds, and
10335     has caused the death of 2 million brain cells.
10336 root 1.387 %
10337 root 1.1 > >> /A:You can usually write the program faster than you can
10338     > >> dial/dl/hangup/install/read docs/fix it/fix the fix/.
10339     >
10340     > >s/usually/never/
10341     >
10342     > s/sometimes/never/
10343    
10344     Cute. You embarrass yourself by your ignorance of perl.
10345 root 1.387 %
10346 root 1.1 :That's probably true, but I really can't speak to it. But, if there
10347     :were no *nix around, there'd be no Perl. Nor would there be a need for
10348     :Perl, IMO.
10349    
10350     Gotta love them JCL and ini dot bat dot bad dot doo dah files.
10351    
10352     TC
10353 root 1.387 %
10354 root 1.1 'cc:Mail is a wonderful application, as long as you don't want to read or send mail.'
10355 root 1.387 %
10356 root 1.1 shurik@iron.Te.NeT.UA - Alexandr Dubovikov at TeNeT Networking Centre
10357    
10358     Hi guys!
10359    
10360     How check socket, alive it or die ?
10361 root 1.387 %
10362 root 1.1 --> Questions not to ask on linux-kernel <--
10363    
10364     Miscellaneous flame-wars:
10365     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
10366     12) The gnome-kde debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
10367     13) The emacs-vi debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
10368     14) Porting linux to run under windows is not interesting.
10369     15) Whether a given intel CISC chip "is really RISC" is not interesting.
10370 root 1.387 %
10371 root 1.1 Subject: what a week!
10372     From: "C. Scott Ananian" <cananian@lcs.mit.edu>
10373     Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 03:13:23 -0400 (EDT)
10374    
10375     unicode, boot-logos, GGI, STREAMS, the necessity of a short devel cycle
10376     and the instability of 2.0.x, "ifconfig stopped working", "you really *do*
10377     need to remove 'encaps'", Linus' tarball practices... it seems like we're
10378     running out of things to flame off on. Here's my humble contribution:
10379    
10380     I'VE MADE A KEWL NEW CHARSET THAT I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD USE. IT HAS ALL
10381     THE LETTERS IN MY LOGIN MAPPED TO THE LOWEST 16 CHARACTERS SO WE CAN
10382     COMPRESS THINGS REAL GOOD AND THE LETTERS IN MY BROTHER B1FF'S NAME ARE
10383     ALL IN HIGH ASCII CUZ THAT'S WHERE LOSERS BELONG!!!2!!7
10384    
10385     I ONLY USE EMACS AND I THINK VI SUX!!$231!!
10386    
10387     GNOME RULES AND KDE IS DEMON-SPAWN BECAUSE IT IS NOT FREE.! !
10388    
10389     WE NEED KGI IN THE KERNEL (NOT LIBGGI, NOT THE TERMINAL IMPROVEMENTS
10390     WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED) IN ORDER TO HAVE WAY KEWL BOOT LOGOS AND RUN MY
10391     BROTHER B1FF'S GAMES!!1!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!11!!!
10392    
10393     I USE A BIG-ENDIAN MACHINE BECAUSE THEY RULE. LITTLE-ENDIAN MACHINES ARE
10394     EVIL. AND A PENTIUM *IS* A RISC PROCESSOR!!!
10395    
10396     WE SHOULD PORT LINUX TO WINDOWS SO WE CAN USE ALL THE KEWL HARDWARE
10397     DRIVERS!!!!!@@#!
10398    
10399     Did I miss any? ;-)
10400    
10401     *Please* don't respond seriously to this email. It's a joke. A joke.
10402     Laugh. Please.
10403    
10404     And then let's kill all the flaming threads, shall we?
10405     --Scott
10406 root 1.387 %
10407 root 1.1 > Well, /proc/kcore already reports its actual size...
10408    
10409     And it isn't about to change at runtime either. That is the size of
10410     installed memory. I've yet to see a single person successfully insert or
10411     remove a SIMM/DIMM while a machine was running. If they did, and it was
10412     successful, the linux code will update the filesize. ;o)
10413 root 1.387 %
10414 root 1.1 Toby Heywood (toby@he-net.demon.co.uk) wrote:
10415     : This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
10416    
10417     One of those 'M's stands for Mail.
10418    
10419     This is not mail.
10420    
10421     This is Usenet.
10422    
10423     Please post only plain text like everyone else does.
10424 root 1.387 %
10425 root 1.1 ------------ etienne.lorrain@ibm.net
10426     --- hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
10427     --- ide1: reset: success
10428     -----------> I like Linux !
10429 root 1.387 %
10430 root 1.1 > I have experienced people walking up to my console and saying "What
10431     > the hell does that mean" in sheer terror as the machine boots.
10432    
10433     Tell them it's magic, and earn the respect of your colleagues. I always
10434     do.
10435 root 1.387 %
10436 root 1.1 ++ Actually, I'm not at a loss for words. Here's one that's very appropriate:
10437     ++ PLONK.
10438 root 1.387 %
10439 root 1.1 ++ > SSI is *not* HTML.
10440     Re: Subraumfunk
10441    
10442     Ja, ein Handy waere da praktisch. Die hoeheren Gebuehren rechnen sich,
10443     wenn man ueber die Grenzen des Sonnensystems hinaus telefonieren will.
10444    
10445     Die Telekom wuerde da wieder mal erbarmungslos abzocken. Ich kann es
10446     mir schon vorstellen: SunSystem-Tarif, vielleicht auch einen
10447     InnerPlanets-Sondertarif, dann einen LocalGroupWeekend-Specialtarif,
10448     eine Supercluster-Zone und so weiter. Und wenn es auf der Venus
10449     schneit, telefonieren alle fuer die Haelfte.
10450 root 1.387 %
10451 root 1.1 > > Vergiss es. Du wirst nie und nimmer von Armando eine
10452     > > konkrete, verwertbare Antwort bekommen.
10453     >
10454     > Doch, man bekommt von mir sogar sehr viele Antworten.
10455    
10456     Du hast gerade zwei Adjektive weggelassen.
10457 root 1.387 %
10458 root 1.1 ++ Oh yeah. Show me an example of SSI used outside of HTML.
10459     Show me an HTML DTD mentioning SSI directives.
10460 root 1.387 %
10461 root 1.1 Namsuk Kim wrote:
10462     > Is there a way to convert a scalar data to Acii data format?
10463    
10464     I am not familar with ACII. If you mean ASCII, then the question I have is
10465     - is the data in EBCDIC now?
10466    
10467     Bill Jones
10468 root 1.387 %
10469 root 1.1 GNU/getopt.c:
10470    
10471     #if defined (WIN32) && !defined (__CYGWIN32__)
10472     /* It's not Unix, really. See? Capital letters. */
10473     #include <windows.h>
10474     #define getpid() GetCurrentProcessId()
10475     #endif
10476 root 1.387 %
10477 root 1.1 Subject: IIS 4.0, PW32i316, CGI Programs
10478    
10479     Perlis.dll does not pass command line arguments correctly via the web. That
10480     is, invoking the URL
10481    
10482     http://www.myserver.com/myprogram.pl?Argument1&Argument2...&Argumentn
10483    
10484     causes the myprogram.pl to execute, but @ARGV is empty.
10485 root 1.387 %
10486 root 1.1 "You need to use CGI."
10487     "I am using CGI, it's a CGI application!"
10488     "No, no, *use* CGI. The directive 'use'."
10489     "OK, so what directive do I use?"
10490     "No, no, you *use* *use*. Use CGI."
10491     "I *am* using CGI!"
10492    
10493     Craig Berry - cberry@cinenet.net
10494 root 1.387 %
10495 root 1.1 > > Was haltet Ihr von Killfile-mailing-lists, dass sich die Leute mal
10496     > > kennenlernen koennen?
10497     >
10498 root 1.388 > Gute Idee ;-), wäre ich sofort dabei, datrifft man wahrscheinlich ne
10499 root 1.1 > Menge tolle Leute... ;-) und die wahren Freidenker.
10500    
10501     Einige Freidenker sicher, aber auch etliche Denkfreie.
10502 root 1.387 %
10503 root 1.1 "I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big or
10504     professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones." -- Linus Torvalds 1991
10505 root 1.387 %
10506 root 1.1 If it's a floppy, it might be a copy.
10507     If it's a disk, you're also at risk.
10508     If it's a pirate, the vendors are irate.
10509     To avoid such frustration, try: Free Software Foundation.
10510 root 1.387 %
10511 root 1.1 From: David Woodhouse <Dave@imladris.demon.co.uk>
10512    
10513     pcg@goof.com said:
10514     > It was much more than I usally get! It was _great_
10515    
10516     Hehe - I know the feeling.
10517    
10518     "It's broken."
10519     "What's wrong with it?."
10520     "I don't know - it just doesn't work."
10521     "Well what do you mean by 'it's broken'?"
10522     "It just doesn't work."
10523     "How can you _tell_ it's broken, for f***'s sake - what are the symptoms!?"
10524     "It gives an error message."
10525     "Would you care to tell me what it says?"
10526     "It says.... something about there being an error."
10527     "That's not very helpful. Tell me it word for word."
10528     "It says 'Unable to handle kernel NULL reference at something or other'"
10529     "That's not word for word. It said 'NULL pointer dereference.' Try again,
10530     letter for letter this time."
10531 root 1.387 %
10532 root 1.1 From: "Paul B. Henson" <henson@INTRANET.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
10533    
10534     After installing Solaris 2.6 HW3/98, I discovered that /usr/bin/admintool
10535     had been installed mode 0777, world writable. Under the original release of
10536     2.6, the mode was 04555.
10537    
10538     Sun has been notified of the problem. If you're running 2.6 HW3/98, you
10539     might want to verify your admintool hasn't been tampered with and fix the
10540     perms.
10541    
10542     (Personally, I'd set them to 0000 ;). admintool? blech.)
10543 root 1.387 %
10544 root 1.1 From: verah@netscape.com (Vera Horiuchi)
10545     Subject: Re: Risp: drama (Re: Do It Yourself)
10546    
10547     Americans ignorant of the rest of the world?
10548    
10549     I must tell a favorite story here. A friend and I were purchasing a gift
10550     for another friend who lives in Canada. I was speculating out loud about
10551     how much duty our Canadian friend would have to pay.
10552    
10553     The cashier said, "Oh, I'm sure Canadians don't have to pay any duty. We
10554     ship to Hawaii all the time, and _they_ don't have to pay duty." =:-0
10555 root 1.387 %
10556 root 1.388 >am besten ist z.Z. das Buch von Michael Neufeld. Wer aber Wissenslücken
10557     >verspürt (was keine Schande ist), sollte diese zu stopfen suchen und nicht
10558 root 1.1 >Zuflucht zu absolut hirnrissigen Theorien suchen.
10559    
10560     Hirnrissig bist Du. Das es einen Zeittransfer aus der Zukunft zu den Nazis
10561     gab deckt sich mit dazu passenden Entschluesselungen bestimmter Bibelstellen
10562     und mit der dann tatsaechlichen notwendigen Geheimhaltung. Es deckt sich
10563     ueberdies damit, dass die Unterhaltung uns den Gedanken zunehmend nahelegt,
10564     also vorbereitet, und dass es bereits ein wissenschaftliches Experiment gab,
10565     bei dem ERST die Wirkung auftrat und DANN die Ursache. Die Zeitreise ist
10566     also Fakt. Und es ist sicher, dass Jemand per Zeitreise den Nazis helfen
10567     wollte. Gelegentliche Theorien, dass auch diese ausserirdische Hilfe gehabt
10568     haetten sollen nur davon ablenken, eine andere Erklaerung liefern. Das ist
10569     logisch, denn die Taeter sitzen ja irgendwo in unserer Zeit und moechten
10570     sicher nicht erkannt werden.
10571    
10572     Du scheinst die simpelsten Grundzuege der Zeitlogik nicht verstehen zu wollen.
10573    
10574     normarz@aol.com
10575 root 1.387 %
10576 root 1.1 >Oder anders gesagt:
10577 root 1.388 >Glaubst Du, Du könntest mit einem hochmodernen Maschinengewehr eine römische
10578 root 1.1 >Legion
10579     >schlagen?
10580    
10581     Klar. Frage mal Cortez.
10582    
10583     Bye
10584     Andreas
10585 root 1.387 %
10586 root 1.1 >Article 2B is a threat to anyone who uses a computer. I just wanted to
10587    
10588     It may be a threat to any american using a computer. Fortunately, the U.S.
10589     justice does not yet apply outside the U.S.A.
10590    
10591     I.a.W.: You're currently creating a lot of happy non-U.S. software
10592     companies.
10593    
10594     Kind regards
10595     Henning
10596 root 1.387 %
10597 root 1.1 From: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>
10598     Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:14:11 -0700
10599     Subject: Re: driver for Creative Labs DVD kits
10600    
10601     At least with the IDE DVD drive that I have, plugging it directly
10602     into an IDE port and using the regular Linux ide-cd driver works just fine
10603     for reading [...] CD and the [not] copy protected sections of the DVD's.
10604    
10605     There is a protocol that the hardware decoder boards use to
10606     tell the DVD drive that they are a licensed implementation and should
10607     be allowed to read the copy protected sectors as well. I have been
10608     told that this protocol can be done entirely in software with a
10609     standard IDE port. Hopefully, somebody will reverse engineer this and
10610     make it a demand loaded kernel module. (Seriously, there is a lot
10611     that you are allowed to do with copyrighted material that this sort of
10612     hardware restriction prevents, and there are other important political
10613     issues involved relating to your rights to do as you please with the
10614     computer equipment that you bought and paid for.)
10615 root 1.387 %
10616 root 1.1 Where do you want to go today?
10617     We might support that sometime next year.
10618     -=- Microsoft
10619     (But I doubt it.)
10620     -=- Me
10621     -=- James Mastros
10622 root 1.387 %
10623 root 1.1 Hello570 <hello570@aol.com> wrote:
10624     > I tried printing a line to a file using both of the
10625     > following methods, but the output was split into two
10626     >lines.
10627    
10628     If you don't want newlines in the middle of your string, then don't
10629     put newlines in the middle of your string.
10630 root 1.387 %
10631 root 1.1 http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/Dean_Roehrich/subjects.post
10632 root 1.387 %
10633 root 1.1 Einstein himself said that God doesn't roll dice. But he was wrong. And
10634     in fact, anyone who has played role-playing games knows that God
10635     probably had to roll quite a few dice to come up with a character like
10636     Einstein. -- Larry Wall
10637 root 1.387 %
10638 root 1.1 From: Ragnar Hojland Espinosa <root@lightside.ddns.org>
10639    
10640     My $0.02 Euros on internationalization? I'm in Spain and my keyboard is
10641     mosty US mapped because the Spanish map is really awkward for programming.
10642     Computers were designed to be funcional, not politically (or locally)
10643     correct (hm, I don't think HAL ever spoke Russian). This "computers are easy
10644     for all" GUI related trend has done a lot of money, and lot of damage; at
10645     least command line OSes forced the user to actually learn something and
10646     absorb information. The user assumed so, so he did. Now he doesn't, and
10647     it's not all his fault.
10648    
10649     The WWW is full of useless (and ugly) graphics, of useless links to links to
10650     pages with links to links which usually end up in a huge links page. Of
10651     course, there are some jewels.. but they should be majority! It's
10652     understandable, when the tools and languages focus more on aspect that in
10653     content.
10654    
10655     Usenet is worse than ever, the interesting places have been ruined by
10656     spammers, c00l hak3rz, and more and more people asking (or demanding) for
10657     others doing their homework.. at least some time ago they were willing to
10658     learn (or pay for it;)
10659    
10660     IRC.. heh. The few times I've been on funet almost all I found is the same
10661     people in the above paragraph. And I do know some of them even run scripts
10662     to try denial of service or other destructive attacks on people they see,
10663     just for fun or to get the op.
10664    
10665     Email. Someone selling an "incredible program that allows you to bypass
10666     your ISP mail server, for only $89" (thats right, a smtp server). No OS
10667     mentioned, I somehow can guess which. And that stupid thing of sending
10668     mail to people in RTF and HTML format.. I'm gonna answer them in LaTeX.
10669    
10670     Internet, your ilimited junk yard.
10671    
10672     Using computers would make me real sad if it wasn't for UNIX and, of
10673     course, Linux and Linux people.
10674 root 1.387 %
10675 root 1.1 ... WNT == ++VMS . Literally. Dave Cutler created VMS,
10676     then he rewrote it as WNT.
10677    
10678     Ever used VMS? It's a step above DOS. Barely.
10679     --
10680     Clark O. Morgan cmorgan@aracnet.com
10681 root 1.387 %
10682 root 1.1 >Subject: If "=~" means match what is doesn't match?
10683    
10684     I heard that a friend of a friend might have once been told about a
10685     rumor that this information can be found in perlop, right next to
10686     where =~ is documented. (It's !~)
10687    
10688     I agree with Tom's assessment that the fall of modern man will be
10689     preceded by the de-evolution of communications to the days of oral
10690     tradition.
10691 root 1.387 %
10692 root 1.1 "Windows 95, the most installed system in the world,
10693     I know, I've done it 5 or 6 times myself"
10694 root 1.387 %
10695 root 1.1 The statistics programming language S, from AT&T, combines lazy
10696     evaluation with imperative programming. A nightmare.
10697 root 1.387 %
10698 root 1.1 "In 1965, as part of a research and development project for the
10699     U.S. Army, engineers at TRW Corp developed a software program
10700     called Generalized Information Retrieval Lanaguage and System."
10701     Or GIRLS for short.
10702 root 1.387 %
10703 root 1.1 Wissen bremst die Meinungsbildung voll aus.
10704 root 1.387 %
10705 root 1.1 I have an idea: Anybody who posts an URGENT! or EMERGENCY! request should
10706     post the circumstances behind the urgency. "I was having sex with my
10707     mistress in the server room and I knocked the Linux box over and the hard
10708     drive crashed and so I've reinstalled everything but I still can't get
10709     5_004_03 to build!"
10710    
10711     This would inspire me to action far more than the implied subtext of "I
10712     have no patience."
10713    
10714     xoxo,
10715     Andy
10716 root 1.387 %
10717 root 1.1 > I have Perl5 running on my pc.
10718     > and also front page98 and microsoft personal web server runnig.
10719     We all have our cross to bear.
10720 root 1.387 %
10721 root 1.1 (THIS IS LONG, YOU MAY WANT TO SKIP)
10722    
10723     From: mjd@plover.com (Mark-Jason Dominus)
10724     Date: 09 Nov 1995 02:57:30 GMT
10725     Subject: Re: system() question
10726    
10727     There are a lot of reasons, many of which get repeated over and
10728     over again, many of which don't. Some of the reasons you hear a lot
10729     are: Questions are incoherently phrased. Questions have the form 'My
10730     code doesn't work' and don't include the code. Questions include the
10731     code, and it's 200 lines long, and comp.lang.perl is not a debugging
10732     service. Nobody knows the answer to the question. The question is so
10733     badly punctuated that nobody can bear to read it. Questions aer
10734     written by a non-native speaker of English and the native speakers who
10735     are trying to understand it can't. (That's a shame, but it does
10736     happen. I often wish that these people would post in their native
10737     languages. I'd love to see more discussion in languages other than
10738     English. Some Dutch guy tried posting all his comp.lang.c articles in
10739     Dutch a few years ago, and all the Americans flamed him. How
10740     humiliating for me!)
10741    
10742     Apart from these oft-mentioned reasons are many others that are
10743     not so often discussed, because anyone who tries to bring them up gets
10744     flamed. But it's the truth: I know the reason I don't answer more
10745     questions is because so many of them questions are so damn stupid.
10746     They're stupid in a lot of different ways, but they're still stupid.
10747     I don't want to suggest that that's why your questions go unanswered.
10748     I don't know what you're asking. No doubt the reason your questions
10749     go unanswered is because they're so deep and interesting that nobody
10750     really knows the answer.
10751    
10752     The most common stupid question is the one from someone who has
10753     some high-level problem that they need solved. They have an idea that
10754     they'd like to do it in perl, and they don't really know perl. So
10755     instead of learning perl, they post to comp.lang.perl.misc.
10756    
10757     Now don't get me wrong. I don't have any problems answering the
10758     questions of someone who's trying to learn perl. I love THOSE
10759     qusetions. But these people don't seem to be asking useful questions
10760     for that.
10761    
10762     Today, for example, I saw a question from a guy who wants to get a
10763     list of hostnames out of nslookup. `How do I do that?' he says. And
10764     it's hard to know what to make of that. What does he mean? Does he
10765     not know how to open a pipe? Is his en' command failing? What's
10766     going on here? I can't give a useful answer without understanding the
10767     problem. Having your en' fail is a problem. Wanting to list
10768     hostnames is not a problem; it's a desire.
10769    
10770     Here are some similar questions that would have made more sense to me:
10771    
10772     1. `I'm a lazy asshole and I can't be bothered to learn to
10773     program myself, but I know if I post here you'll give me
10774     something for free.''
10775    
10776     (OK, fair enough. At least I can send him a rate card.)
10777    
10778     2. `I'm trying to use en' to talk to nslookup, but...
10779     ...here's my code; what's wrong?''
10780    
10781     (Good question.)
10782    
10783     3. `I know perl has a `System' command for running programs,
10784     but I can't see how to get my commands into nslookup
10785     once I have run it.''
10786     (Good question.)
10787    
10788     4. `I'm trying to use `Getprotobynumber' to talk to nslookup...''
10789    
10790     (Good question.)
10791    
10792     See, I'm not just biting people's heads off, here. #4 is a good
10793     question, because it gives me something to work with. OK, he has a
10794     very weird idea about interprocess communication, but that's
10795     ignorance, and that's what we're here to correct. He doesn't know
10796     about en'; I can refer him to the manual.
10797    
10798     Here's another example: Some guy wants to assemble a list of email
10799     addresses . `How do I do that?'' he wants to know. Well, duh. Get a
10800     big pad of paper and read news for a couple days and write down all
10801     the addresses you see. Problem solved. What's it doing in
10802     comp.lang.perl?
10803     Oh, you wanted to do it in perl. Well, I guess I'd open a socket
10804     to the NNTP server and send it some XHDR commands for the `From'
10805     lines. But that's not Perl; you could do that in any language. I
10806     could do it in Bourne Shell for you if I'm allowed to use a little
10807     external thingie to handle the socket parts for me. What's it doing
10808     in comp.lang.perl?
10809    
10810     Oh, you wanted us to write the program for you? Wait, let me send
10811     you my rate card.
10812    
10813     Someone posted yesterday asking how to get the data from a file where
10814     the start and end of the data is marked by keywords. Same thing going on
10815     here. `Well, here's how you solve your problem: First you go take an
10816     introductory class in programming and learn to write programs in some
10817     language. Then you go to the bookstore and buy this book by Wall and
10818     Schwartz, it's really good. Read the book carefully and try out the
10819     examples. Then if you still have general questions like `How do I do this'
10820     instead of thought that this code would do X but instead it does Y' you hire
10821     a professional to write your program for you. Or you could just skip right
10822     to step 3. Want my rate card?''
10823    
10824     The worst stupid questions are the ones that come from people who
10825     have no business asking them. The most perfect example of this that I
10826     could have imagined was in comp.unix.questions a couple of years ago.
10827     Some guy came and asked how you could tell if a file is a hard link.
10828     My jaw flapped open and it's stayed open since then. I couldn't have
10829     been any more stumped if he'd asked why Bodhidharma came from the
10830     West. What do you say to this guy? Do you tell him the truth, that
10831     all files are hard links, that even symbolic links are hard links?
10832     He's not going to understand you; you might as well keep your mouth
10833     shut. Do you tell him the truth, that the answer won't do him any
10834     good because he doesn't know what a hard link is, so why did he bother
10835     asking in the first place? No, that'll just make him mad. I followed
10836     that message for the next couple weeks, and nobody said anything.
10837     What could you say? The guy had no business asking the question and
10838     no use for the answer. Maybe the right answer would have been to cut
10839     off his finger or something. I dunno.
10840    
10841     Some questions get ignored because they're boring. Someone asked
10842     today how to compare two variables (I assumme he means the contents of
10843     those variables) to see if they're exactly the same. You've gotta be
10844     in an awfully good mood to take the time to answer that. Maybe
10845     someone will. Maybe I will.
10846    
10847     If I answer that one today, maybe he'll be back tomorrow asking
10848     how to check to see if two variables contain different values. Maybe
10849     I won't. What I find incredible is that if you tell these people to
10850     go read the manual and come back in two weeks, you sometimes get
10851     jumped on for not being helpful to beginners. Bah. If everyone told
10852     these people to go read the manual, they'd eventually figure out that
10853     that's what you have to do ,and then I wouldn't have to spend so much
10854     of my life dealing with incompetent programmers.
10855    
10856     Some questions are logically nonsensical because the querent
10857     thinks they know more than they do. A lot of these have the form
10858     `How do I use X to accomplish Y?'' There's nothing wrong with this,
10859     except that sometimes X is a chocolate-covered banana and Y is the
10860     integration of European currency systems. I always get stuck on
10861     these, probably because I can't get rid of the idea that the person
10862     really has a good reason for wanting to use X. I know a half-dozen
10863     easy simple ways to accomplish Y, but I can't imagine what X has to do
10864     with it. This is a problem for me in my day job, too. Clients are
10865     always saying to me `We want to use product X to do multimedia
10866     development on the world-wide web,'' and all I can think is `Well,
10867     gee, what would you want to go and do that for?'' Sometimes it turns
10868     out that they want to do it because they want to impress the
10869     manufacturers of X, and I don't work on those jobs.
10870    
10871     The flip side of this is a questions like `I want to accomplish
10872     X, but I don't want to use Y. What can I use instead?'' Which,
10873     again, is sometimes reasonable, and then sometimes X is closing a
10874     filehandle and Y is the `Close' function.
10875    
10876     The questions I like the best are the ones that go like this:
10877    
10878     `I want to accomplish X.
10879    
10880     I thought that the following code fragment would do it:
10881    
10882     ...
10883    
10884     But instead it does Y.
10885    
10886     Why is that?''
10887    
10888     This one is also pretty good:
10889    
10890     `I want to accomplish X.
10891     I thought I might be able to use facility Y.
10892    
10893     But Y doesn't seem like it's quite right,
10894     because of Z.
10895    
10896     What should I use instead of Y, or how can I overcome Z?''
10897    
10898     When I ignore these, it's usually because I don't know the answer.
10899     There were an awful lot of them today. It makes me very happy.
10900    
10901    
10902     There you go; a 160-line dissertation on why questions go unanswered.
10903     Now don't let me hear you saying nobody ever answers your questions.
10904    
10905     --
10906     Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
10907     The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
10908 root 1.387 %
10909 root 1.1 >> BTW, would it be easier to cope with international text using Python?
10910     >Sigh... you're breaking my heart. Ask Jack Jansen, he probably knows.
10911    
10912     If I were really evel, I would point out that the newest TCL (8.1) has
10913     support for international character sets and Unicode. But then, mentioning
10914     TCL in this newsfroup would be really bad. So, of course, I don't do that.
10915    
10916     Ups. I'm so sorry ... ;-)
10917    
10918     bye, Georg
10919 root 1.387 %
10920 root 1.1 I personally do not believe in object orientation as a security model
10921     (nor as a general programming paradigm), but feel free to try to
10922     convince me.
10923    
10924     [ Or maybe I confuse you with somebody else and some other posting ]
10925    
10926     Linus
10927 root 1.387 %
10928 root 1.1 ++ how can i strip new lines out at var.
10929     ++
10930    
10931     Removing new lines is very tricky, as the manual tells you so. Ignore the
10932     complicated things in the manual, and put in this neat little trick:
10933    
10934 root 1.85 $var=join+q,,,grep{ord$[[qq$\137$]]<10 or+10<ord}split+q,,,$var;
10935 root 1.1
10936     If you're old enough not to read the manual, you won't have a problem
10937     understanding the above line.
10938    
10939     Abigail
10940 root 1.387 %
10941 root 1.1 I fixed the problem by mounting the SCO volume on the SunOS box, and since
10942     1995 the problem has gone away together with the SCO machine.
10943 root 1.387 %
10944 root 1.1 ++ Hi Does anybody know how to upload many graphic files at the push of a
10945     ++ button?
10946     Yes.
10947    
10948     ++ 100 pictures or so?
10949     Yes.
10950    
10951     ++ Can I do it in Perl?
10952     Yes.
10953    
10954     Your question isn't Perl specific. Please ask in the relevant
10955     newsgroup. alt.button.play
10956    
10957     Abigail
10958 root 1.387 %
10959 root 1.1 perly gates - The way to perl; Enter hackerdom.
10960    
10961     perly Gates - Contradictio in Terminis.
10962    
10963     Martien
10964 root 1.387 %
10965 root 1.388 Ren hat weder von Sinnhaftigkeit noch von Kausalität geschrieben, sondern
10966     nur von Logik. Logik und Kausalität sind in unserem (normalen) Denken zwar
10967     eng miteinander verknüpft, sind aber nicht dasselbe. Sinn ist hingegen noch
10968     etwas Drittes und ganz verschiedenes! "Sinn" bedeutet mindestens, daß eine
10969 root 1.1 Sache eine gewisse Richtung hat, wie in "Uhrzeigersinn". Meistens bedeutet
10970 root 1.388 Sinn aber, daß eine Sache einen bestimmten Zweck erfüllt. Auch darf man
10971     nicht "verursachen" mit "begründen" verwechseln, weil die beiden
10972     unterschiedlich sind. Die Existenz muß auch keinen Sinn haben, um eine
10973     Ursache zu haben. Das sind zwei völlig voneinander unabhängige Sachen. Die
10974 root 1.1 Existenz hat einen Sinn, also eine Richtung, wenn wir unserer Existenz eine
10975 root 1.388 Richtung geben. Dieser Sinn kann auf etwas abzielen, was außerhalb unserer
10976     selbst steht, muß aber nicht... Sie kann auch einen Sinn haben, der schon da
10977 root 1.1 war, bevor wir uns danach ausgerichtet haben - von all dem schreibt Ren aber
10978     nicht. ;)
10979    
10980 root 1.388 Worauf Ren wohl hinaus wollte, ist, daß wenn die Logik des begrenzten Raumes
10981     nicht gilt, daß dann die Logik schlechthin hinfällig wird und so jedes Sein
10982     fragwürdig wird. Das ist aber nicht der Fall, da die Logik, die er von den
10983 root 1.1 Grenzen des Raumes aufstellt, gar keine wirkliche Logik ist, sondern nur die
10984     Grenzen des menschlichen Verstandes zeigt. Er kann sich nicht vorstellen,
10985 root 1.388 daß außerhalb der Grenzen des Raumes "Nichts" ist, weil man sich als Mensch
10986 root 1.1 das Nichts nicht vorstellen kann.
10987    
10988 root 1.388 Darüber hinaus meinte er, daß die "Existenz unlogisch" würde. Dieser Satz
10989     ist vollkommen unverständlich. Denn entweder ist etwas, oder es ist nicht.
10990 root 1.1 Das ist auch schon die ganze Logik einer Existenz. (Aristoteles: Satz vom
10991 root 1.388 ausgeschlossenen Dritten) Unlogisch wäre, wenn etwas ist, das nicht ist oder
10992 root 1.1 wenn etwas nicht ist, das ist.
10993    
10994 root 1.388 Von der Unfähigkeit des Menschen, sich einen unbegrenzten aber endlichen
10995 root 1.1 Raum (oder wie auch immer der Weltraum nun aussieht) vorzustellen auf die
10996 root 1.388 "Unlogik der Existenz" zu schließen, ist aber wohl nicht ganz möglich, zumal
10997     eine Existenz nicht unlogisch sein kann. Was sollte das auch heißen? Daher
10998 root 1.1 ist das Problem, das Ren aufwirft, nur ein Scheinproblem. Die Existenz an
10999 root 1.388 sich wird nicht in Frage gestellt dadurch, daß man sich etwas - egal was -
11000 root 1.1 nicht vorstellen kann. Er verwechselt die Begriffe "unlogisch" und
11001     "unvorstellbar".
11002    
11003     Thomas.Decker@lrz.uni-muenchen.de
11004 root 1.387 %
11005 root 1.1 Marcel Richter wrote:
11006     > Marcel Richter - IQ: 3538327
11007     ^^^
11008     fehlt da nicht irgendwo ein Komma.... =?-)
11009 root 1.387 %
11010 root 1.1 The X server has to be the biggest program I've ever seen that doesn't
11011     do anything for you. --Ken Thompson
11012 root 1.387 %
11013 root 1.1 linux-2.1.92/fs/autofs/root.c:
11014     printk("autofs: trying to recover, but prepare for Armageddon\n");
11015 root 1.387 %
11016 root 1.1 >>Vincent DiPietro, the discoverer of the face on mars, has thrown in
11017     >>the towel, and said that the face on mars is a pile of rocks.
11018     >Was sollte es denn sonst sein?
11019    
11020     An artificial pile of rocks.
11021 root 1.387 %
11022 root 1.1 > ps: mal nebenbei: eine unbekannte variable beim analysieren des
11023     > marsgesichtes ist es, dass mensch gar nicht weiss, wie die lebende,
11024     > gedachte oder sonstige vorlage eigentlich aussieht. dazu kommt natuerlich
11025     > noch das fehlende wissen um die intention des "kuenstlers", ob er
11026     > beispielsweise nur aspekte bzw. partien eines gesichtes integrieren wollte
11027     > - und natuerlich, ob es ueberhaupt kunst ist:)
11028    
11029     Ganz genau. Und das Matterhorn ist eine palaeoimpressionistische Studie des
11030     Geruchsorgans der Rasse der Ciabattanimalier. Aber das wussten hier
11031     sicherlich schon alle. Das ganze Universum ist ausserdem eigentlich nur ein
11032     grosser Flipperautomat.
11033    
11034     Christoph Schulte Moenting - ubec@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
11035 root 1.387 %
11036 root 1.1 > Kris Weilemann schrieb
11037     >
11038     > >MIR ging es neulich aehnlich. Ich wurde von Ausserirdischen entfuehrt.
11039     > >Ich wurde eingesperrt in einem dunklem Raum mit langen Sitzreihen und mit
11040     > >einer Popcorn-artigen Substanz gefuettert. Nach 2 Stunden war alles
11041     > >vorbei. Einen Tag spaeter stellte ich fest, dass mir 18 Mark im
11042     > >Geldbeutel fehlten. Ist das nicht krass? -Kris.
11043 root 1.387 %
11044 root 1.388 ... Jazz ist nicht nur das erfolgreichste, sondern auch das einzige originäre Kunstgenre,
11045     daß die USA jemals hervorgebracht haben.
11046 root 1.1
11047     "Apropos Musik", HR2 am 16.4.98
11048 root 1.387 %
11049 root 1.1 http://www.rsw.com/
11050    
11051     The Unix shell as a 4GL
11052    
11053     Unix provides hundreds of programs that can be piped together to easily
11054     perform almost any function imaginable. Nothing comes close to providing the
11055     functions that come standard with Unix. Programs and philosophies carried
11056     over from other systems put walls between the user and Unix, and the power
11057     of Unix is thrown away. The shell, extended with a few relational operators,
11058     is the fourth generation database scripting language most appropriate to the
11059     Unix environment.
11060 root 1.387 %
11061 root 1.1 Perl is incredibly difficult to parse. For example, what's the difference
11062     between these:
11063    
11064     time /3 ;#/; print "hello";
11065     sin /3 ;#/; print "goodbye";
11066    
11067     Right. The first one is time divided by 3, and the print is in a comment.
11068     The second one is the sin of the result of a regular expression match for "3
11069     ;#", and the print gets executed!
11070    
11071     There's no pure BNF in the world that'll handle that. And remember, with
11072     "use" and prototypes available, whether you parse something like "sin" or
11073     "time" depends on its definition in some other file, somewhere in the galaxy
11074     (or even decided by Perl code in a BEGIN block, that evals a prototype!).
11075    
11076     Which led Larry to say at one point: "the only thing that can parse Perl is
11077     'perl'".
11078    
11079     --
11080     Randal L. Schwartz
11081 root 1.387 %
11082 root 1.1 Ronald J Kimball <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu> writes:
11083    
11084     > Pascal AMRAM wrote:
11085     > > Subject: MSEXCHANGE / OUTLOOK
11086     >
11087     > So here I am trying to figure out what an M sex change is....
11088    
11089     It's obviously the opposite of an F sex change. HTH.
11090    
11091     --
11092     Jonathan Feinberg jdf@pobox.com Sunny Brooklyn, NY
11093 root 1.387 %
11094 root 1.1 The management (my cats) made me say this.
11095 root 1.387 %
11096 root 1.1 uae-0.6.9/custom.c:800:
11097     write_log ("Program is torturing BPLCON1.\n");
11098 root 1.387 %
11099 root 1.1 uae-0.6.9/src/memory.c:363
11100     write_log ("Your Amiga program just did something terribly stupid\n");
11101 root 1.387 %
11102 root 1.1 Closures make sense in any programming language where you
11103     can have the return value of a function be itself a
11104     function, as you can in Perl. Note that some languages
11105     provide anonymous functions but are not capable of
11106     providing proper closures; the Python language, for
11107     example.
11108 root 1.387 %
11109 root 1.1 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to
11110     resemble a nail.
11111 root 1.387 %
11112 root 1.1 > but all I get are 501 errors, method not supported. I am not 100% sure what
11113     > I did wrong.
11114    
11115     What you did wrong was post a microsoft server question to a perl
11116     newsgroup.
11117 root 1.387 %
11118 root 1.1 I am trying to learn Perl on my Windows 97 system. In particular...
11119 root 1.387 %
11120 root 1.388 >Es kamen Außerirdische, die Pyramiden bauten und andere Wunder
11121     >vollbrachten. Dafür wurden sie vergöttert. Diese außerirdischen bauten dann
11122 root 1.1 >wahrscheinlich auch die Cydonia Region.
11123    
11124     Etwa zehnmal zu oft 'Stargate' gesehen, was?
11125 root 1.387 %
11126 root 1.388 >Die Menschheit kämpft seit Millionen von Jahren gegeneinander.
11127 root 1.1
11128 root 1.388 Welche Hälfte ist denn da die grössere? :o)
11129 root 1.387 %
11130 root 1.1 ...am still rebuilding after being hit with a clock changing virus it reset
11131     my clock to 2039 unfortunately for me my OS is beta 98 needless to say it
11132     expired instantly!!!
11133 root 1.387 %
11134 root 1.1 From: Per Bothner <bothner@cygnus.com>
11135     To: Pal Engstad <engstad@hunt.inmet.com>
11136    
11137     > Linus Torvalds requires that all code in the source is using a tab
11138     > length of 8 spaces, and he also states that you are a bad programmer
11139     > if you write code with more than 3 indentation levels.
11140    
11141     I didn't know that Linus Torvalds has done research on programming styles.
11142     He much have, since why else would you have the audacity quote him as
11143     an authority, on a list where there are dozens of people with more
11144     than double Linus's programming experience?
11145    
11146     > This has caused the code to be fairly easy to read and maintainance is
11147     > pretty straight forward.
11148    
11149     Irrelevant - a kernel is a lot simpler than an optimizing compiler,
11150     in terms of complexity of algorithms and data structures.
11151 root 1.387 %
11152 root 1.1 Nach der Diskussion muss ich akzeptieren, dass die juengst erfolgte
11153     Erdbeschleunigung von - 0,6 auf - 0,4 Millisekunden kein zwingender Beweis
11154     fuer einen Permanentantrieb ist. Aber: In letzter Zeit kommt es bei mir immer
11155     wieder vor, dass ich Dinge einfach weiss. Selbst wenn ich sie nicht begruenden
11156     kann. Ich weiss trotzdem dass sie stimmen muessen und der Antrieb existiert.
11157     Mit der Zeit findet sich dann auch die Begruendung.
11158 root 1.387 %
11159 root 1.1 Wir suchen neue AussenMitarbeiterInnen... (S.Pernar@Link-Goe)
11160 root 1.387 %
11161 root 1.1 hyperltext (hy'perl-text), n. double-quotish-interpolated hypertext markup:
11162     Example:
11163     print qq[[<LI><A HREF="$self->[[url]]">@[[[ucfirst $self->[[title]]]]]</A>\n]];
11164 root 1.387 %
11165 root 1.1 liperlsuction: What happens to any script longer than 10 lines once
11166     Randal gets his hands on it
11167 root 1.387 %
11168 root 1.1 Uperl Volta - country where perl programmers control the electricity.
11169 root 1.387 %
11170 root 1.1 > Anybody successfully installed the win32 version of Perl?
11171    
11172     No! Millions of people don't use perl on win32 machines. You may be the
11173     first if you get it working.
11174 root 1.387 %
11175 root 1.1 > Macintosh.
11176     > Think different.
11177    
11178     Think Again.
11179 root 1.387 %
11180 root 1.1 Bill.Cilnton@dyselxia.com
11181 root 1.387 %
11182 root 1.1 tsatan@hotmail.com writes:
11183     > Why does perl have the "push" and "unshift" functions? ...
11184     > push @nums, 4; is the same as @nums = (@nums, 4);
11185    
11186     What do you want, Scheme? ;)
11187 root 1.387 %
11188 root 1.1 # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'.
11189     # It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
11190 root 1.387 %
11191 root 1.1 | I am returning this otherwise good typing paper to you because
11192     | someone has printed gibberish all over it and put your name at the
11193     | top.
11194 root 1.387 %
11195 root 1.1 I had a student ask about the UN9 operating system. I didn't understabd what
11196     he was talking about so he wrote UNIX on the board.
11197 root 1.387 %
11198 root 1.1 On 1 Apr 98 17:34:23 GMT, Schulung7 wrote:
11199     ^^^^^^^^^
11200     >Was haltet ihr vom UFO-Absturz in Rosswell?
11201    
11202     Nichts. Und jetzt geh woanders spielen.
11203 root 1.387 %
11204 root 1.1 >Kann man hier irgendwie mal die UFOs reinbringen, um die es in dieser NG
11205     >gehen soll?
11206    
11207 root 1.388 Nein, der Datentyp wäre inkompatibel. UFOs sind per Definitionem
11208 root 1.1 materielle Objekte (obwohl das zur Zeit fraglich ist ;-), die sich in
11209     diesem Medium nicht austauschen lassen.
11210 root 1.387 %
11211 root 1.1 Wer redet hier denn von der "Hui Hui"? Ich sprach von "Hui! Hui!".
11212 root 1.387 %
11213 root 1.388 >> nein...ist kein Sender. Eine taiwanesische Sekte hat behauptet, daß am
11214     >> 25.3. auf allen TVs der Welt Gott auf Kanal 18 erscheinen würde.
11215 root 1.1 >> Ist natuerlich nicht eingetreten.
11216     >
11217     >Aber unsere Haus-Sat-Anlage geht seither nicht mehr.
11218    
11219     Ein Zeichen! Er hat uns ein Zeichen gegeben! Zieht alle euren linken
11220     Schuh aus!
11221 root 1.387 %
11222 root 1.1 >Klingt nach Erdstillstand.
11223    
11224 root 1.388 Ich bin entsetzt. Man hat hoffentlich sofort Wiederbedrehungsmaßnahmen
11225 root 1.1 eingeleitet?
11226 root 1.387 %
11227 root 1.1 Mars Global Surveyor Imaging Schedule
11228    
11229    
11230     First opportunity
11231     Approximate
11232     Orbit Internet
11233     Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11234    
11235     4-3-98 09:58/1:58 a.m. 216 Viking Lander 1 April 6
11236     4-3-98 21:37/1:37 p.m. 217 Viking Lander 2 April 7
11237     4-4-98 09:16/1:16 a.m. 218 Mars Pathfinder April 7
11238     4-5-98 08:33/12:33 a.m. 220 Cydonia April 6 (mid-a.m.)
11239    
11240     Second opportunity
11241     Approximate
11242     Orbit Internet
11243     Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11244    
11245     4-12-98 15:23/ 8:23 a.m. 235 Viking Lander 1 April 14
11246     4-13-98 03:01/ 8:01 p.m. 236 Viking Lander 2 April 15
11247     4-13-98 14:40/ 7:40 a.m. 237 Mars Pathfinder April 15
11248     4-14-98 13:57/ 6:57 a.m. 239 Cydonia April 14 (mid-p.m.)
11249    
11250     Third opportunity
11251     Approximate
11252     Orbit Internet
11253     Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11254    
11255     4-21-98 20:45/1:45 p.m. 254 Viking Lander 1 April 23
11256     4-22-98 08:23/1:23 a.m. 255 Viking Lander 2 April 24
11257     4-22-98 20:02/1:02 p.m. 256 Mars Pathfinder April 24
11258     4-23-98 19:18/12:18 p.m. 258 Cydonia April 24 (mid-a.m.)
11259    
11260 root 1.387 %
11261 root 1.1 > >2. Der Menschheit ist durch Inzucht entstanden. Laut biologischem
11262 root 1.388 > >Wissen, unwahrscheinlich, da Mutation und Mißbildungen auftreten
11263     > >würden.
11264 root 1.1 >
11265     > Vermutung: Das ist auch aufgetreten. Siehe levitische "Gesetze" zur
11266     > "Behandlung" von "Aussatz" insb. im 3. "Mose". Die hatten schon Probleme.
11267     Sag mal, bei Dir piepts wohl nicht mehr richtig! Aussatz, heute besser
11268     unter dem Namen Lepra bekannt, ist keine Erbkrankheit. Es ist eine
11269     (heute heilbare) Infektionskrankheit, verursacht durch Bakterien.
11270     Also nichts von Inzucht, wie Du das in Deinem latenten Rassenwahn
11271     implizierst.
11272 root 1.387 %
11273 root 1.1 > You might please start up with reading more than one sentence - a skill
11274     > quite familiar in Europe, but as it seems not in the USA.
11275 root 1.387 %
11276 root 1.1 Yup. Instead of crashing Xservers, now you have crashing kernels.
11277     Big improvement.
11278 root 1.387 %
11279 root 1.1 -- "Hey look, this new card is for windows and only $xx!"
11280     -- "Yes, but it's braindead and will hurt your performance. Take that one
11281     over there. Besides, it's not an ope.."
11282     -- "Why that one?"
11283     -- "Because it's better, sinc.."
11284     -- "But I can do the same with this one, it's cheaper, and its for windows!"
11285 root 1.387 %
11286 root 1.1 In der Klinik, in der ich mal arbeiten musste, hatten wir einen echten
11287     Koenig Ludwig II und mindestens fuenf Stueck Jesus - sowas gibts halt,
11288     wenn Du verstehst, was ich meine.
11289 root 1.387 %
11290 root 1.1 > Hast Du mal einen Stein beobachtet, der eine Unzahl komplexer
11291     > Vorgaenge paresentiert, einschliesslich der Hervorbringung
11292     > etlicher Lebensformen?
11293    
11294     Jepp. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "zahlreich".
11295    
11296     > Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der sich mal eben
11297     > "verwandelt", und auf dem dann lauter Wesen rumkrabbeln,
11298     > die aus ihm selbst entsprungen sind?
11299    
11300     Klar doch. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "lauter".
11301    
11302     > Ueberspitzt: Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der
11303     > ploetzlich zum Lebewesen wird und Dich fragt, wer oder was
11304     > er eigentlich ist?
11305    
11306 root 1.388 Tja, da hören die Übereinstimmungen auf. Ich dachte Du meinst
11307 root 1.1 Erwin Stein. Den kenne ich. Der hat zwei Kinder. Die krabbeln
11308 root 1.388 ab und zu auf ihm herum. Der ist aber nicht plötzlich zum Le-
11309 root 1.1 bewesen geworden, sondern den gibt es nun schon ein wenig
11310 root 1.388 länger. Und er hat mich auch noch nie gefragt, wer oder was
11311 root 1.1 er eigentlich ist. Zumindest nicht in einem Zustand, den man
11312 root 1.388 als "normal" bezeichnen könnte. So wird das anscheinend nix.
11313 root 1.1 Ciao
11314     Stefan
11315 root 1.387 %
11316 root 1.1 "These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After
11317     unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including
11318     all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer."
11319     (http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/pc99.htm)
11320 root 1.387 %
11321 root 1.1 Video cards have write-only registers. (of course that is bad design) Let's
11322     say that register 13 is write-only, as is common. It holds an index that
11323     determines what register 69 (also write-only) actually changes. If you write
11324     to register 13 while the accelerator is active, you lock the PCI bus. You
11325     can't determine if the accelerator is active without reading from register
11326     42, but you can't interpret the contents of that register correctly without
11327     knowing what the last accelerator command was. Reading from register 13 gets
11328     you some useless (unrelated) info and _also_ toggles the accelerator on and
11329     off.
11330 root 1.387 %
11331 root 1.1 Join the Army,
11332     Meet interesting people,
11333     Kill them.
11334 root 1.387 %
11335 root 1.1 > Wie entsteht Materie? Ich koennte mir vorstellen, dass Energie in Materie
11336     > umwandelbar ist.
11337    
11338     E=m*c^2 (Schon mal gehoert?) (Schon mal verstanden??)
11339 root 1.387 %
11340 root 1.388 >nach der die Pygmäen geheime UFO-Basen in ausgehöhlten Baumstämmen
11341 root 1.1 >unterhalten (Vorsicht: das war ein Witz :-) ).
11342 root 1.387 %
11343 root 1.1 > (Bernhard Nahrgang) wrote:
11344     >
11345     > >> Logische Annahme: Die Erde waechst entweder kontinuierlich, oder periodisch
11346     > >> ruckartig.
11347     > >wie kann jemand mit dem IQ von 130 nur SO SELTEN BLOEDE sein??
11348     >
11349 root 1.388 > Norbert ist nicht selten blöde...
11350 root 1.1
11351     :-)
11352 root 1.387 %
11353 root 1.1 SAT 1 Teletext: Ein Asteroid mit einem Durchmesser von fast einem Kilometer
11354 root 1.388 rast mit großer Geschwindigkeit auf die Erde zu. US-Astronomen befürchten:
11355     "XF11" könnte im Jahr 2028 auf der Erde einschlagen. Die Folgen wären
11356 root 1.1 verheerend. "Der rasende Stein aus dem All ist eine Gefahr", warnt Jack G.
11357     Hills vom US-Kernforschungszentrum Los Alamos: "Wenn er die Erde trifft,
11358     wird er die Sprengkraft von 320.000 Megatonnen Dynamit haben." Das
11359     entspricht dem Zweimillionenfachen der Atombombe...
11360    
11361     ARD/ZDF Teletext: ASTEROID MIT KURS AUF ERDE ENTDECKT Amerikanische
11362     Astronomen haben einen Asteroiden ausgemacht, der in 30 Jahren der Erde
11363 root 1.388 gefährlich nahekommen wird. Die Gefahr, daß der Asteroid einschlagen wird,
11364     sei gering, aber auch nicht völlig auszuschließen. Nach derzeitigen
11365 root 1.1 Berechnungen wird der Asteroid mit der Bezeichnung "1997 XF11" am 26.Oktober
11366 root 1.388 2028 unserem Planeten am nächsten kommen. "1997 XF11" hat etwa einen
11367     Durchmesser von 1,6 Kilometern. Erstmals käme ein Objekt dieser Größe der
11368     Erde so nahe, hieß es in dem Bericht der Internationalen Astronomischen
11369 root 1.1 Union.
11370    
11371 root 1.388 RTL Teletext: Himmelskörper rast auf Erde zu Ein Asteroid wird im Jahr 2028
11372     der Erde gefährlich nahe kommen. Amerikanische Wissenschaftler haben die
11373 root 1.1 Chance eines Zusammenpralls auf eins zu tausend berechnet. Sollte der
11374 root 1.388 Asteroid, der einen Durchmesser von 1,8 Kilometern hat, aufprallen, könnte
11375     er eine gigantische Flutwelle auslösen, so die Forscher. Auch ein genaues
11376     Datum haben die Wissenschaftler schon errechnet: Von Europa aus wäre das
11377 root 1.1 Naturschauspiel am 26. Oktober 2028 zu beobachten.
11378 root 1.387 %
11379 root 1.1 * Linux Viruscan.....
11380     Windows 95 Found Remove it ? (Y/y)
11381 root 1.387 %
11382 root 1.1 >>Hmm, welche Behauptungen entsprechen denn deiner Meinung nach der
11383 root 1.388 >>Realität?
11384 root 1.1 >>
11385     >>Das es das FBI wirklich gibt?
11386 root 1.388 >>Das Scully frigide ist, und deshalb mit Mulder nichts anfangen möchte?
11387     >>Das Mulder homosexuell ist, und deshalb mit Scully nichts anfangen möchte?
11388 root 1.1 >>Das der CSM einen Vertrag mit Marlb*ro hat?
11389     >
11390     >Hinter diesen "Fragen" erkenne ich z.B. eine gut bekannte Strategie. Die
11391     >FBI-Frage ist bewusst absurd. Das Abgleiten ins Sexuelle hat ebenfalls
11392 root 1.387 %
11393 root 1.1 "'You're a Cirrus. You're crap. I'm an S3. I rule. Thank you and please drive through.'"
11394 root 1.387 %
11395 root 1.1 > How could you have perl take a set of numbers (1,2,3,4) and put them
11396     > into a random order???
11397     >
11398    
11399     @array=qw(1 2 3 4);
11400     print "@array[1,3,2,0]\n";
11401    
11402     I've checked this against other possible random orderings
11403     of these numbers, and this ordering is at least as random as
11404     any of the other possible ones. The benefit of this one being
11405     that it begins with the number 2, which is my favorite random
11406     number less than 42.
11407 root 1.387 %
11408 root 1.1 From what I am reading Win98 and NT5.0 will be getting rid of all that
11409     crap anyway. Seems that Microsoft has invented something called TCP/IP and
11410     another really revolutionary concept called DNS that eliminates the
11411     netbios crap too. All that arping from browsers is going to go away.
11412     I also hear rumors that they are on the verge of breakthrough discoveries
11413     called NFS, and LPD too. Given enough time and money, they might
11414     eventually invent Unix.
11415 root 1.387 %
11416 root 1.1 In Germany, where typeface design has always been a significant part of
11417     the cultural heritage, and where typefounding has remained an important
11418     business, there are more than one kind of copyright-like protections for
11419     typefaces. Certain long-standing industrial design protection laws have
11420     been used to protect typeface designs in litigation over royalties and
11421     plagiarisms. Further, there is a recent law, the so-called
11422     "Schriftzeichengesetz" enacted in 1981, that specifically protects
11423     typeface designs. New designs are registered, as is done with
11424     copyright in most countries. This law only protects new, original
11425     designs. It is available to non-German designers and firms. Therefore,
11426     some type firms and designers routinely copyright new designs in West
11427     Germany. This gives a degree of protection for products marketed in
11428     Germany. Since multinational corporations may find it cheaper to
11429     license a design for world-wide use rather than deal with a special case
11430     in one country, the German law does encourage licensing on a broader
11431     scale than would initially seem to be the case.
11432 root 1.387 %
11433 root 1.1 [linux processes vs. nt/solaris threads]
11434     Rob Pike pointed out that the solution to slow process creation is
11435     faster process creation, not another kernel abstraction.
11436 root 1.387 %
11437 root 1.1 Does anybody know how to communicate between a PC and a modem,
11438     using a Perl CGI script?
11439 root 1.387 %
11440 root 1.1 >I really don't know crap about PERL. How is it different from JAVA?
11441    
11442     One tiny difference: Java can crash your browser. It happened to me last
11443     week.
11444 root 1.387 %
11445 root 1.1 Brieweb> I heard Randal Schwartz say he could write an entire httpd server in 90 lines
11446     Brieweb> of PERL.
11447     No, that's an http *proxy* server. A simple web server is much shorter.
11448     From "perldoc HTTP::Daemon"...
11449     [Randal Schwartz]
11450 root 1.387 %
11451 root 1.1 But the possibility of abuse may be a good reason for leaving
11452     capabilities out of other computer languages, it's not a good reason
11453     for leaving capabilities out of Perl.
11454     [Larry Wall in `Macros'. [[perl5-porters]]]
11455 root 1.387 %
11456 root 1.1 Yes: Java's main advantage over Perl is that it's hard to use for casual
11457     programmers, so keeps all but the most intrepid programmers away from it.
11458     It has no decent support for string processing, allowing you to spend
11459     hours at useless debugging. It has a very restrictive and static system
11460     to make sure you don't try anything interesting. It makes sure that you
11461     use objects, by golly, because James Gosling said so. It's easy for C++
11462     programmers to use, and hard for shell or BASIC programmers to use. It
11463     also only runs on a few systems, locking its customers into a a closed
11464     system and restricting their options.
11465     [Tom Christiansen in `Java Vs. Perl']
11466 root 1.387 %
11467 root 1.1 <Bill_Gates> Where do you want to go today?
11468     <Phase_5> Where do go tomorrow?
11469     <BlueFlux> Where were you yesterday?!?!
11470 root 1.387 %
11471 root 1.1 "It's not to control, but to protect the citizens of Singapore. In our
11472     society, you can state your views, but they have to be correct."
11473     Ernie Hai
11474     Coordinator of Singapore Government Internet Project
11475 root 1.387 %
11476 root 1.1 : I very much prefer a useful error message than a "it produced the wrong
11477     : results" report from the users.
11478    
11479     if i got even "it produced the wrong results" from our users, i would
11480     be in 7th heaven. ours often mail us with such insightful requests as
11481     "can you tell me my email address?" no, sorry, that should be "CAN U
11482     TEL ME MY E MAIL ADRES DUDE?!!!?? HURRY!!!"
11483 root 1.387 %
11484 root 1.1 There are many intelligent species in the Universe.
11485     They are all owned by cats.
11486 root 1.387 %
11487 root 1.1 Why dignify your unsustainable, unjustifiable, unprovable feeble
11488     attempts at character assassination with anything resembling a reply?
11489     You only make yourself look foolish by mouthing off like that.
11490 root 1.387 %
11491 root 1.1 From: L & K Olson <kolson@mbnet.mb.ca>
11492     Subject: If they wrote error messages in haiku ...
11493    
11494     Yesterday it worked
11495     Today it is not working
11496     Windows is like that
11497     - - -
11498     wind catches lily
11499     scatt'ring petals to the wind:
11500     segmentation fault
11501     - - -
11502     Three things are certain:
11503     Death, taxes, and lost data.
11504     Guess which has occurred.
11505     - - -
11506     A file that big?
11507     It might be very useful.
11508     But now it is gone.
11509     - - -
11510     Windows NT crashed.
11511     I am the Blue Screen of Death.
11512     No one hears your screams.
11513     - - -
11514     Errors have occurred.
11515     We won't tell you where or why.
11516     Lazy programmers.
11517     - - -
11518     Seeing my great fault
11519     Through darkening blue windows
11520     I begin again
11521     - - -
11522     The code was willing,
11523     It considered your request,
11524     But the chips were weak.
11525     - - -
11526     Printer not ready.
11527     Could be a fatal error.
11528     Have a pen handy?
11529     - - -
11530     Server's poor response
11531     Not quick enough for browser.
11532     Timed out, plum blossom.
11533     - - -
11534     Chaos reigns within.
11535     Reflect, repent, and reboot.
11536     Order shall return.
11537     - - -
11538     Login incorrect.
11539     Only perfect spellers may
11540     enter this system.
11541     - - -
11542     This site has been moved.
11543     We'd tell you where, but then we'd
11544     have to delete you.
11545     - - -
11546     ABORTED effort:
11547     Close all that you have.
11548     You ask way too much.
11549     - - -
11550     First snow, then silence.
11551     This thousand dollar screen dies
11552     so beautifully.
11553     - - -
11554     With searching comes loss
11555     and the presence of absence:
11556     "My Novel" not found.
11557     - - -
11558     The Tao that is seen
11559     Is not the true Tao, until
11560     You bring fresh toner.
11561     - - -
11562     The Web site you seek
11563     cannot be located but
11564     endless others exist
11565     - - -
11566     Stay the patient course
11567     Of little worth is your ire
11568     The network is down
11569     - - -
11570     A crash reduces
11571     your expensive computer
11572     to a simple stone.
11573     - - -
11574     There is a chasm
11575     of carbon and silicon
11576     the software can't bridge
11577     - - -
11578     To have no errors
11579     Would be life without meaning
11580     No struggle, no joy
11581     - - -
11582     You step in the stream,
11583     but the water has moved on.
11584     This page is not here.
11585     - - -
11586     No keyboard present
11587     Hit F1 to continue
11588     Zen engineering?
11589     - - -
11590     Hal, open the file
11591     Hal, open the damn file, Hal
11592     open it, please Hal
11593     - - -
11594     Out of memory.
11595     We wish to hold the whole sky,
11596     But we never will.
11597     - - -
11598     Having been erased,
11599     The document you're seeking
11600     Must now be retyped.
11601     - - -
11602     The ten thousand things
11603     How long do any persist?
11604     Netscape, too, has gone.
11605     - - -
11606     Rather than a beep
11607     Or a rude error message,
11608     These words: "File not found."
11609     - - -
11610     Serious error.
11611     All shortcuts have disappeared
11612     Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
11613 root 1.387 %
11614 root 1.1 "The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way
11615     to factor large prime numbers." -- Bill Gates from "The Road Ahead," p. 265.
11616 root 1.387 %
11617 root 1.1 > What is the Windows equivalent of the first line used for
11618     > UNIX (#!/usr/local/bin/perl) that tells where the Perl interpreter is?
11619    
11620     Windows hasn't gotten quite as far in functionality as, say, BSD Unix in the
11621     early 1980s.
11622 root 1.387 %
11623 root 1.1 > I have a chat script, that will work fine for a bit then after a while
11624     > the private messages will stop working. It might be because I changed
11625     > something, but chances are that isn't the case. I re-install a fresh
11626     > copy, paths are correct, and they still don't work
11627    
11628     I think you are experiencing GOVERNMENT CONTROL. You see, everyone
11629     with a chat script is being scrutinised by the department of CHAT
11630     control. Whenever they see some message they don't like, they
11631     introduce some little goblin called feature-creep in your program. if
11632     you have lots of these little devils, your program migth acquire so
11633     many new features that it just stops working.
11634    
11635     This also applies to Microsoft products.
11636    
11637     > Does it make sense for certain features to just not work?! If you can
11638     > help, or have suggestions, get back to me, PLEASE:)
11639    
11640     Yes, it makes perfect sense. Especially if they're features which
11641     really are bugs. And especially if they're 'private' messages. You
11642     know perfectly well that the government doesn't like private messages.
11643    
11644     Hope this explains what's going on
11645     Martien Verbruggen
11646 root 1.387 %
11647 root 1.1 ...code? If you're on a misconfigured NT server (is that redundant?), you...
11648 root 1.387 %
11649 root 1.1 X11R6.1-based free X server compiles, links and crashes under IRIX(TM).
11650 root 1.387 %
11651 root 1.1 -------------- please bite here ------------- bitte hier abbeissen ---------
11652 root 1.387 %
11653 root 1.1 "Frag mal, auf was fuer uptimes man kommt, wenn man Software-Entwicklung
11654     unter NT macht..." "Das koennen bis zu dreissig Minuten werden - in der
11655     Mittagspause." -- Andreas Bogk, Kai Fett, de.alt.sysadmin.recovery
11656 root 1.387 %
11657 root 1.1 > ++ A lot of posters here have .sigs that include perl one liners.
11658     > ++ Is there a safe way to run them, and be assured that they wont
11659     > ++ damage and/or erase files? (or e-mail off my shadow file)
11660     >
11661     > Just make sure you understand it ;)
11662    
11663     I nominate Abigail for best response of the year with this one. Come to
11664     think of it, I nominate it for best response of next year, too.
11665 root 1.387 %
11666 root 1.1 Your moderator will be spending the next week on a beach on a small island
11667     where the phones don't work very well, so there won't be any comp.compilers
11668     until the 28th. Any messages you send in will wait here until I get back and
11669     should be posted on March 1st or 2nd.
11670 root 1.387 %
11671 root 1.1 But now, in comp.lang.perl.misc, you have a bunch of people who aren't
11672     even asking how to make the pieces fit together, but what the
11673     individual pieces are. ("How do I get my lego project to roll accross
11674     the table?" "You use one of those pieces that have the wheels
11675     attached.") Or questions that aren't about building at all. ("The
11676     motor stopped moving. How do I get it to start again?" "The batteries
11677     are probably dead. You can buy new batteries at any department or
11678     convienience store.")
11679 root 1.387 %
11680 root 1.1 : how do i make my perl script run?
11681     Get up at 91 minutes before dawn, clothe yourself in neon green body
11682 root 1.387 %
11683 root 1.1 for some reason Windoze users don't seem to expect docs to come with an archive
11684 root 1.424 >>> ToiLeTGoD
11685 root 1.1
11686     Well, well.. I always wondered who/what made that flush thingy work.
11687     Pretty cool name, dude. (not)
11688 root 1.387 %
11689 root 1.1 Ummm...create "comp.lang.perl.wizards", make it moderated and all posts,
11690     including xposts, go into /dev/null. Most FAQers won't have the Usenet
11691     background to understand that such groups are either a) a wasteland
11692     populated (briefly) by persons like themselves, or b) point to /dev/null.
11693 root 1.387 %
11694 root 1.1 Lazy people never bother to actually read the manual. Instead they (like
11695     kids) pick something with big, colorful buttons.
11696     -- Eugene Tyurin <gene@insti.physics.sunysb.edu>
11697 root 1.387 %
11698 root 1.1 The Average Person's Axioms of First Order Predicate Logic:
11699     (A => B) => (B => A)
11700     (There exists) x A(x) => (For all) x A(x)
11701     (A => C) & (B => C) => (A => B) - Warren Vonroeschlaub
11702 root 1.387 %
11703 root 1.1 cal 9 1752
11704 root 1.387 %
11705 root 1.1 Installing unix fixes the [VMS] bug.
11706     -Barry Shein
11707 root 1.387 %
11708 root 1.1 And this horrible free-for-all will be left to children wondering around
11709     by themselves in the dark because they refuse to turn on the light and
11710     read the manual.
11711 root 1.387 %
11712 root 1.1 "SPARC" is "CRAPS" backwards --Rob Pike
11713 root 1.387 %
11714 root 1.1 I increasingly begin to understand why some universities require
11715     that its compsci majors study the Euclid's Prime Number Theorem,
11716     the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, Cantor's Diagonalization Proof,
11717     Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem, and the ramifications of Halting Problem
11718     in everyday life. These may not be involved in daily programming, but
11719     it helps develop a rigorous mind. And it gives those who would progress
11720     from typist to word-processor devotee to HTML documenter to CGI scripter
11721     to distributed multithreaded operating systems design specialist cause
11722     for pause. You just can't do that without proper training.
11723 root 1.387 %
11724 root 1.1 comp.lang.perl.i'm-from-microsoft-so-won't-read-documentation
11725 root 1.387 %
11726 root 1.1 I suggest you install a newsserver, and keep a local spool. Anything else
11727     is too much work, and fairly silly. The Internet has catupulted even
11728     the Wintel victims past the days of BBS toys.
11729 root 1.387 %
11730 root 1.1 > Help help! Pls advise me thru email.
11731    
11732     I advise you to buy a new keyboard; one that has all the keys you
11733     need.
11734 root 1.387 %
11735 root 1.1 Christian Fundamentalism: The doctrine that there is an absolutely
11736     powerful, infinitely knowledgeable, universe spanning entity that is
11737     deeply and personally concerned about my sex life.
11738 root 1.387 %
11739 root 1.1 I find the first particularly useful in destroying the miswrapped
11740     lines stemming from brain-damaged "it's just another word processor"
11741     newsreaders. You know,
11742     those postings that always seem to go to the edge of the line and then
11743     back
11744     again to the start, as this paragraph has. These are just too painful
11745     to read. Just kill them. It's not worth your time trying to figure
11746     out what they're saying.
11747 root 1.387 %
11748 root 1.1 It is most annoying to receive junk mail describing how to purchase 93
11749     million addresses, while knowing that yours is one of them.
11750 root 1.387 %
11751 root 1.1 I'm surprised Tom, how could it miss the "X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT;
11752     U)" header line? Personally, I find the attempted use of Netscape as a
11753     newsreader even worse then the attempted use of WinNT as an OS. :-)
11754    
11755     But the combination.... *sutters*
11756 root 1.387 %
11757 root 1.1 Hm... my new killfile isn't detecting you're posting from Windows.
11758     Darn it.
11759 root 1.387 %
11760 root 1.1 At least he didn't post in all caps.
11761 root 1.387 %
11762 root 1.1 http://language.perl.com/CPAN-local/doc/FAQs/cgi/idiots-guide.html
11763 root 1.387 %
11764 root 1.1 I think the biggest problem with M.S.A. is that the scripts work for Matt, but
11765     the majority of people trying to use them are from the
11766     "Wintel/AOL/FrontPage/push-a-button/HTML-is-programming/no-programming-required"
11767     school of non-learning. It isn't a problem with the code, per se, but with those
11768     trying to use it.
11769 root 1.387 %
11770 root 1.1 "Linux can emulate an C64 on my AMDK6PR200 at full speed. Windows can't."
11771 root 1.387 %
11772 root 1.1 cdog wrote:
11773     >
11774     > Is this group active?
11775     No.
11776    
11777     If you had spent half a second LOOKING at the group before posting, you
11778     probably could have come to that conclusion yourself.
11779    
11780     On a personal note, I died 3 years, 8 days, 5 minutes, 16 seconds, and
11781     345 milliseconds ago, but who's counting.
11782 root 1.387 %
11783 root 1.1 "Security through obscurity is no security at all."
11784     -comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup posting
11785 root 1.387 %
11786 root 1.1 "Windows 95 will now attempt to blow chunks across your primary partition.
11787     Press any key to continue..."
11788 root 1.387 %
11789 root 1.1 NT 5.0 is the last nail in the Unix coffin. Interestingly, Unix
11790     isn't in the coffin... It's wondering what the heck is sealing
11791     itself into a wooden box 6 feet underground...
11792 root 1.387 %
11793 root 1.1 The Wall St Journal (1996-01-22, page 1) reported that Cuba is
11794     considering jumping across the International Date Line, just so that
11795     it's the first into the year 2000. So it's possible you'll have to
11796     adjust your travel plans.
11797 root 1.387 %
11798 root 1.388 "Wo kämen wir hin, wenn alle sagten, wo kämen wir hin, und niemand ginge
11799     hin, um einmal zu schauen, wohin man käme, wenn man ginge." -- Kurt Marti
11800 root 1.387 %
11801 root 1.1 The Takeuchi function is a popular benchmark of function calling due to its
11802     highly recursive nature. It's defined as:
11803    
11804     tak x y z = z, if y >= x
11805     = tak (tak (x-1) y z) (tak (y - 1) z x) (tak (z - 1) x y), otherwise
11806    
11807     For this benchmark, the function is invoked as:
11808    
11809     tak 18 12 6
11810 root 1.387 %
11811 root 1.1 "Nobody will ever need more than 640k RAM!"
11812     -- Bill Gates
11813     "Windows 95 needs at least 8 MB RAM."
11814     -- Bill Gates
11815     "Nobody will ever need Windows 95."
11816     -- logical conclusion
11817 root 1.387 %
11818 root 1.1 Year Name James Bond Book
11819     - ---- -------------------------------- -------------- ----
11820     50's James Bond TV Series Barry Nelson
11821     1962 Dr. No Sean Connery 1958
11822     1963 From Russia With Love Sean Connery 1957
11823     1964 Goldfinger Sean Connery 1959
11824     1965 Thunderball Sean Connery 1961
11825     1967* Casino Royale David Niven 1954
11826     1967 You Only Live Twice Sean Connery 1964
11827     1969 On Her Majesty's Secret Service George Lazenby 1963
11828     1971 Diamonds Are Forever Sean Connery 1956
11829     1973 Live And Let Die Roger Moore 1955
11830     1974 The Man With The Golden Gun Roger Moore 1965
11831     1977 The Spy Who Loved Me Roger Moore 1962 (novelette)
11832     1979 Moonraker Roger Moore 1955
11833     1981 For Your Eyes Only Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
11834     1983 Octopussy Roger Moore 1965
11835     1983* Never Say Never Again Sean Connery
11836     1985 A View To A Kill Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
11837     1987 The Living Daylights Timothy Dalton 1965 (novelette)
11838     * -- Not a Broccoli production.
11839 root 1.387 %
11840 root 1.1 Windows NT: n.
11841     32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit
11842     operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written
11843     by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
11844 root 1.387 %
11845 root 1.388 Auf der Kiste läuft EHNIX, das ist ZUNIX kompatibel.