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1	root	1.464	The population is made up of four types of people: A small number hunt
2			witches. A large number go along with the hunt. A larger number are
3			silent. A tiny number oppose it. The final group — as if by magic —
4			become witches.
5
6			– Bret Weinstein
7			%
8	root	1.463	Looting is transition to freedom.
9			- Rumsfeld 2003
10			%
11	root	1.462	I’m adding a new favorite Randroid argument to my list:
12
13			1) "You disagree with me, therefore you don’t understand Rand’s ‘philosophy’."
14
15			2) "You didn’t REALLY read her books and essays. Go read them again… you still disagree?" (defer back to 1)
16
17			3) Angry name calling (always a favorite)
18
19			4)!! "Read Rand’s disciples, they surely knew better what Rand REALLY meant." (Last line of defense when 1,2,3 fail)
20
21			[commenter at http://www.rotman.uwo.ca/the-system-that-wasnt-there-ayn-rands-failed-philosophy-and-why-it-matters/]
22			%
23	root	1.461	Doubly-linked lists are hard
24			- a rust tutorial
25			%
26	root	1.460	As someone who has been acquainted with a surprisingly large number of
27			people who write fantasy, I can tell you that the difference between
28			fantasy and reality is that fantasy has to make sense.
29
30			[Tyvor Winn, https://pandasthumb.org/archives/2019/07/fire-breathing-dinosaurs.html]
31			%
32			The overarching theme of the code of conduct has always been Be Nice and
33			that has been problematic for a long time.
34
35			[https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/334058/are-there-specific-issues-with-unwelcoming-behavior-toward-lgbtq-persons-on-stac/]
36			%
37	root	1.459	GNU Powered it
38			GPL Protected it
39			GOD Blessed it
40
41			[from Nala Ginrut's mail signature]
42			%
43	root	1.458	a friend once told me that "ex-mother-in-law-to-be" was the most wonderful
44			kinship term she'd ever heard.
45
46			[http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler/aue/tense.html]
47			%
48			> I have long considered that the BRs were written by the in-group, for
49			> the in-group, and do not adequately call out the expected processes for
50			> an outsider wanting to join the in-group.
51
52			I don't agree.
53
54			> The outsiders sometimes struggle not because they are trying to
55			> accomplish anything of wrong intent, but because the step by step path
56			> is not as clear as it could be.
57
58			As an outsider, it's true that you are expected to know how to be a
59			trustworthy CA. The ecosystem is not designed to help you to learn how
60			to be trustworthy - the ecosystem does not improve from having more
61			applicants who lack that knowledge - and so yes, the baseline expectation
62			is that applying CAs are operated beyond reproach.
63
64			[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1427262]
65			[darkmatter uae trying to get a root certificate for nefarious purposes]
66			%
67			> that way you can adapt your own UID allocation to reliably avoid that range.
68
69			That is my major issue with systemd: That it postulates that everybody
70			else shall adapt to its conventions, w/o configurability, even if there
71			other conventions exist for a very long time.
72
73			[https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/]
74			%
75			static void die_you_gravy_sucking_pig_dog(void) __dead;
76
77			[minix/sbin/shutdown sources]
78			%
79	root	1.457	However, as you can imagine, this is a terrible idea for some zones. If
80			you could walk the .gov zone, you could learn every US government agency
81			and government agency portal.
82
83			[wow, it's terrible if people could learn about every US government
84			agency? of the people, for the people, no?]
85
86			[https://blog.cloudflare.com/black-lies/]
87			%
88			Most of the images at NASA have their EXIF data completely removed.
89
90			[hollycrap in https://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1016]
91			%
92			The theory of gravity explaining our solar system, can easily be disproved
93			as objects that only had attractive force towards each other would end up
94			smashing into each other, sooner or later.
95
96			[aa5 in https://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1957]
97			%
98			Windows 98 "SE" "Suckers Edition"
99			Windows "ME" Mistake Edition
100			Windows "NT" Not to Terrible
101			Windows 2000 ahhhhh! A good OS!
102			Windows "XP" eXtra Problems
103			%
104	root	1.456	Instead of banning every word out there, we should make the mental effort
105			to do better than the political correctness movement that stops at the
106			surface. So, let’s call it master-slave, and instead make a call for US,
107			where a sizable black population is very poor, to have free healthcare,
108			to have cops that are less biased against non-white people, to stop death
109			penalty. This makes really a difference.
110
111			[http://antirez.com/news/122]
112			%
113			"MASTER/Slave" is ungood crimethinkful oldspeak. plusgood rectify unword.
114			Is Minitrue doubleplusgoodwork truthwise. chocorat anyone?
115
116			[https://github.com/django/django/pull/2692#issuecomment-44847465]
117			%
118	root	1.455	Somebody should tell EU, 1984 was not an instruction manual.
119
120			[BhishmPitamah, in https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/9f9za4/europe_just_voted/]
121			%
122	root	1.454	[supposedly from the firmware update script for certain tesla car models]
123
124			# We should have some way here of keeping the car parked. What if
125			# they try to drive off while we're in the middle of an upgrade?
126
127			# We should also have a mutex around everything that follows. What if
128			# unpack.sh gets triggered on the same tarball twice? This is more of
129			# a problem now that we might be deferring installation.
130
131			# We should also have a recovery system. What if we remove the
132			# tarball filename but this process is killed before it can complete?
133
134			[https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3862643&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=87#post]
135			%
136	root	1.453	[https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2015#tech-editor]
137
138			Vim 15.2%
139			Emacs 3.8%
140
141			[https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2016#technology-development-environments]
142
143			Vim 26.1%
144			Emacs 5.2%
145			%
146	root	1.452	Systemd dies if there is no cgroup support in the kernel.
147
148			Poettering: "To make this work we’d need a patch, as nobody of us tests this"
149
150			R! /dir/.* destroys root.
151
152			Poettering: "I am not sure I'd consider this much of a problem. Yeah, it's a UNIX pitfall, but "rm -rf /foo/.*" will work the exact same way, no?"
153
154			Processes owned by a user with a leading zero in the name are started with root privilege..
155
156			Pottering: "I don't think there's anything to fix in systemd here"
157
158			Systemd kill background processes after user logs out.
159
160			Poettering: "In my view it was actually quite strange of UNIX that it by default let arbitrary user code stay around unrestricted after logout."
161
162			'I have an issue with journal corruptions and need to know what is the accepted way to deal with them.'
163
164			Poettering: "Yupp, journal corruptions result in rotation, and when reading we try to make the best of it. they are nothing we really need to fix hence."
165
166			'Poettering locked and limited conversation to collaborators on 17 Apr'
167
168			[https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10927261&cid=54905721]
169			%
170			[raid controller vendor lock-in techniques]
171
172			>>> Are HP/PMCS doing the Intel/LSI thing with controllers only working on
173			>>> their own servers.
174			>>
175			>> you mean the DELL PERC5/i 6/i tape of smbus pins mod thing? (Dell first!)
176			>
177			> No the Intel where that trick doesn't work thing.
178
179			[https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/hp-p400-why-so-cheap-on-ebay.2308/page-2]
180			%
181	root	1.451	The way I see it, once you move to Firefox 57, you're ready for Chrome.
182
183			[from a discussion about how deleting all existing extensions and force-replacing
184			them by inferior webextensions (if at all) is a great idea]
185			%
186	root	1.450	Chronology of Significant Events
187			================================
188
189	root	1.449	November 2002
190
191			Rahman wearing only socks and diaper; supervisor has concern regarding
192			hypothermia Rahman subjected to 48 hours of sleep deprivation, rough
193			treatment, cold shower and other measures but remained noncompliant.
194
195			---
196
197			Subjected to cold conditions and minimum food and sleep... confused due to
198			dehydration and fatigue.
199
200			---
201
202			Cable recommends future use of continued environmental deprivations with
203			interrogations 18 out of 24 hours daily
204
205			---
206
207			Linguist asks questions about the temperature at which hypothermia occurs
208
209			November 19 2200 hrs
210			guard check - Rahman is alive.
211
212			2300 hrs
213			guard check - Rahman is alive.
214
215			November 20 0400 hrs
216			guard check - Rahman is alive.
217
218			0800 hrs
219			guard check - Rahman is alive.
220
221			1000 hrs
222			guard check - Rahman is dead.
223
224			[https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/oct/09/cia-torture-black-site-enhanced-interrogation]
225			%
226	root	1.448	In the quiet moments, he set his hand terminal to the Eros feed. Back
227			when he’d been a kid, there had been a performance artist making
228			the rounds—Jila Sorormaya, her name was. As he recalled, she’d
229			intentionally corrupted data-storage devices and then put the data stream
230			through her music kit. She’d gotten into trouble when some of the
231			proprietary code of the storage device software got incorporated into her
232			music and posted. Miller hadn’t been a sophisticate. He’d figured
233			another nutcase artist had to get a real job, and the universe could only
234			be a better place.
235
236			[E. Corey, Leviathan Wakes, p. 466]
237			%
238	root	1.447	> Speaking of Apple... Anybody remember their ads against multitasking? I
239			> always assumed that was against the Amiga as well but probably any
240			> computer at the time that did multitasking. I think their tag line was
241			> like "One person. One computer. One Task." or something like. Those ads
242			> really tried to sell the distraction of multitasking. What a crazy time
243			> in technology.
244
245			-P
246			Not as bad as telling us we are holding the phone wrong.
247
248			[http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=72811]
249			%
250			> Simon Cooke wrote:
251			> shrugs I don’t recall ever hearing that the length of a word was CPU specific.
252
253			I think I’m going to add this to my random signature collection.
254
255			[https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20050131-00/?p=36563]
256			%
257	root	1.446	Big congratulations to Acer, who used 55555555-5555-5555-5555-555555555555
258			for this in one of their db entries. Not only did they win the random
259			number generator lottery to get that, but also experienced a minimum
260			of 3 single bit errors, since the closest valid GUID to that is
261			55555555-5555-4555-9555-555555555555
262
263			[https://blog.uncooperative.org/blog/2014/10/23/uefi-security-databases/]
264			%
265	root	1.445	Contrary to what Carrier says, it is not clear to me that Amy Frank or
266			anyone else accused him of sexual assault. Carrier’s lawsuit makes
267			the tenuous argument that Amy Frank implied sexual assault by using the
268			hashtag #sexualassault.
269
270			[https://freethoughtblogs.com/atrivialknot/2017/01/04/i-liked-richard-carrier-past-tense/]
271			%
272	root	1.444	From: Linus Torvalds
273
274			And yes, a large part of this may be that I no longer feel like I can
275			trust "init" to do the sane thing. You all presumably know why.
276
277			[https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/7/6/577]
278			%
279			> How is the old way a problem?
280
281			That's systemd in a nutshell (and pulseaudio too). Replace well-known
282			things that are not broken with something obscure and clunky that thinks
283			it's smarter than you.
284
285			[https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9170111&cid=52207557]
286			%
287	root	1.443	Systemd is a cancer and it will keep spreading until the host is
288			dead. Just like cancer it's not malicious, it sincerely believes it knows
289			better than the healthy cells it's infecting, but that doesn't make it
290			less lethal.
291
292			[https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9552479&cid=52745591]
293			%
294	root	1.442	From: Richard Stallman
295
296			[...]
297
298			> then that sounds like a layering violation.
299
300			The layering authority has no jurisdiction over GNU.
301			If this solution works, and nobody proposes a better one,
302			we won't let "layering" get in the way.
303			%
304	root	1.441	"Teyrnas Unedig Prydain Fawr a Gogledd Iwerddon" shortened to Teyrnas
305			"Unedig" or "Y Deyrnas Unedig" abbreviated "DU", or Rìoghachd Aonaichte
306			"Bhreatainn is Èireann a Tuath" shortened to Rìoghachd Aonaichte" are
307			"also now legal names for the UK.
308
309			[Brian Inglis in 774ac519-ceb1-7c04-d2b5-2f2ed851cb61@SystematicSw.ab.ca]
310			%
311			From: Russ Allbery
312			To: tz@iana.org
313			Message-ID: <87h97n58bp.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>
314
315			> Companies are unlikely to change their processes unless changes break
316			> existing processes (like the version change) or changes are documented
317			> in an RFC, which can be presented to SOx auditors and their ilk, to
318			> document and justify why they spent money and changed a process, along
319			> with the documentation on change impact including budget,
320			> authorizations, and the dozens of other side efforts of production
321			> changes, summarized above by DG as "That doesn’t work for everyone."
322
323			A bit of a digression, but the way companies treat free software projects
324			and maintainers is a pet peeve of mine.
325
326			It should be obvious that the only people a company can expect to follow
327			any of those rules are people the company is paying or otherwise has a
328			contractual relationship with that requires following those rules.
329			Otherwise, the company should be prepared to pay one of their employees to
330			jump through those hoops if they want those hoops jumped through.
331
332			It's standard practice for companies who depend heavily on a free software
333			project to have an internal maintainer or advocate for that free software
334			project who will translate whatever the public maintainer does into the
335			form that the company needs to manage it internally, including maintaining
336			private branches as needed, pulling up unreleased patches as needed, and
337			adjusting for upstream changes that don't match the needs of the company
338			(or clearly advocating for compromises or modifications that work for the
339			entire community). This is a cost of doing business. My employer
340			certainly does this for free software we use. It's fairly normal.
341
342			Some companies don't want to spend that money, and try to do it on the
343			cheap by not having that person or the mechanisms for importing free
344			software properly. A few of them then complain at the free software
345			maintainer when they run into problems. But those complaints should not
346			carry any more weight than the complaints of any other user, and should be
347			weighed against the work style, goals, and available time of the free
348			software maintainer. After all, the actor in this situation that has (by
349			far) the most resources and hence the most ability to adopt to changes,
350			whether they want to or not, is the company, not the free software
351			maintainer.
352			%
353	root	1.440	[About the Unicode CLDR (Common Locale Data Repository) project, specifically, timezone names]
354
355			They also seem to think that abbreviations should be only used locally,
356			such as "BST" only being used by British English. One would think that if
357			an American was talking about DST in the UK they would also use the term
358			"BST", but no:
359			http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8498
360			%
361			To: Time zone mailing list <tz@iana.org>
362			Subject: Re: [tz] Request regarding IANA update for Novosibirsk Time Zone
363
364			Shruthi Venkataramanan -X (shruthve - WIPRO LIMITED at Cisco) wrote:
365			> When can we expect the updated version
366
367			About three weeks ago.
368			%
369	root	1.439	[...] trying to make digital files uncopyable is like trying to make water
370			not wet. -- Bruce Schneier
371			%
372			[...] in order to be a good Christian one must first be a great hypocrite.
373
374			[http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.de/2013/06/the-bible-is-nothing-but-hearsay.html]
375			%
376	root	1.438	Know that you suck, you suck so much that you suck the future you wich
377			was able to go back in time to suck you from the past. You are an
378			neverending paradoxial loop of suckage. Now suck the fuck off.
379
380			[http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/vats-vs-rtwp.23266/page-2]
381			%
382			From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
383
384			Arthur David Olson <arthurdavidolson@gmail.com> writes:
385
386			> From The Economist: "Why time may be running out for the leap second"
387			[http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/11/economist-explains-4]
388
389			\| The first is simple, ancient and intuitive, and based on the rotation of
390			\| the Earth, under which each complete rotation (or, equivalently, each of
391			\| the Sun's apparent trips through the sky) counts as one day.
392
393			Of course, these are actually not equivalent; they're different by a
394			full day per year.
395			%
396	root	1.437	Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir
397			de la faire plus courte. -- Blaise Pascal, Provincial Letters : Letter XVI.
398			[I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time.]
399			%
400			File names are infinite in length where infinity is set to 255 characters.
401			-- Peter Collinson, "The Unix File System"
402			%
403			Over the past 20 years - its never been a question of the "perfect
404			storage media vendor" - its been a question of "who has screwed
405			me - lately?".
406			-- JSS, former Amiga HW Engineer, Rework tech of 400,000 defective
407			Seagate HDD's, Class of '94.
408
409			[http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1095235&cid=26492885]
410			%
411			I also proposed making malloc(0) perfectly fine, since zero is a perfectly
412			fine value. I also, in the same letter, proposed making zero-sized
413			arrays legal, mostly so you could do the extend-the-struct trick for a
414			variable-sized array as the last field of the struct.
415
416			I got two letters back as answer to my one. #1: Malloc(0) shouldn't work
417			because zero-sized arrays don't work. #2: Zero-sized arrays shouldn't work
418			because malloc(0) doesn't work. Well played, ANSI C committee, and may
419			your lives be a living hell.
420
421			[Rob Pike in https://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=4142#c2]
422			%
423	root	1.436	Using a screwdriver was not a normal part of the experimental protocol.
424			[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Slotin#Criticality_accident]
425			%
426			Newbie: Hi. I've been using Lisp for about half a year now, programming
427			for three years. I discovered this group and wondered if you could help me
428			out with a problem I'm having?
429
430			Smug: Hi! Always glad to have new blood. Sure thing, just ask.
431
432			Snide: Heya New! You bet, ask anything and we'll try to help.
433
434			Newbie: Okay, I'm trying to filter a list, something like Perl's grep. I
435			want to set up a predicate and have the new list be only those elements
436			from the old list that satisfy it. I know there's some standard idiom for
437			doing this, I just can't find it anywhere...
438
439			Smug: Perl's grep was inspired by Lisp's higher-order functions, you know. :)
440
441			Newbie: Oh, cool. :)
442
443			Smug: But it's inferior since it has balky syntax.
444
445			Snide: You can do it with (mapcan (lambda (item) (when (predicate item) (list item))) list).
446			[http://c2.com/]
447			%
448			Unfortunately a Russian spy stole the last meg of a LISP program for
449			controlling our nuclear defense systems. Fortunately, it was all
450			right-parenthesis.
451			[http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhyWeHateLisp]
452			%
453			Always wanted to travel back in time to try fighting a younger version of
454			yourself?
455			Software development is the career for you!
456
457			[https://twitter.com/Loh/status/411282297816498176]
458			%
459	root	1.435	[...] undisguised clarity is easily mistaken for arrogance.
460			-- Richard Dawkins
461			%
462			There are many choices of elliptic-curve signature systems. The standard
463			choice, ECDSA, is reasonable if you don't care about simplicity, speed,
464			and security.
465
466			[http://blog.cr.yp.to/20140323-ecdsa.html]
467			%
468			[In answer to: "Is the NSA aware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS? The RSA?"]
469
470			We are unaware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS when properly implemented and
471			used for the purposes for which they both are designed.
472			-— National Security Agency, June 1992
473			%
474			In the past decade there have been many attacks against TLS. With the
475			exception of CRIME, not one of them relied on any results that were not
476			known at the time the TLS 1.0 standard was being written. [...] Every time
477			this standards group has had a choice to make regarding cryptography,
478			they have made the wrong one. [...] Were TLS to be submitted by an
479			undergraduate as a solution to this problem it would earn an F.
480
481			[http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg10598.html]
482			%
483			tiny hsv2rgb
484			float3 h2r(float h,float s,float v){return lerp(saturate((abs(frac(h+float3(1,2,3)/3)6-3)-1)),1,s)v;}
485
486			vec3 hsv(float h,float s,float v) {
487			return mix(vec3(1.),clamp((abs(fract(h+vec3(3.,2.,1.)/3.)6.-3.)-1.),0.,1.),s)v;
488			}
489			%
490			Haha, no FPS counter but rather a "Next frame"-button :)
491			Only Java makes it possible!
492
493			[http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=7920&page=1]
494			%
495			'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and
496			generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is
497			extremely poettering''
498			%
499			"There is no use in arguing with a man who can multiply anything by the square root of minus 1."
500			-- Pirates of Venus, Edgar Rice Burroughs
501			%
502			"I drank what?!"
503			-- Socrates
504			%
505			It would be bad for OpenPGP to have a standard that could not be
506			implemented on light bulbs (I used to say cell phones, but they're now
507			400MHz devices), forcing the light bulb people to use something else.
508
509			Jon Callas in
510			http://www.imc.org/ietf-openpgp/mail-archive/msg06396.html
511			%
512			"If you have four groups working on a compiler, you'll get a 4-pass compiler."
513			-- Conway's Law
514			%
515			The mac version doesn't work on older versions of the operating system
516			(this is part of Apple's planned obsolescence hellhole; the latest version
517			of xcode won't build for older systems but I'm forced to update to it
518			because the older ones won't build for newer systems and I've been forced
519			to update the operating system on my ipad so UGH; basically I have to
520			have multiple xcode versions installed and I really can't be bothered
521			untangling this mess right now so).
522
523			[http://mightyvision.blogspot.de/2013/03/7drl-success-86856527.html]
524			%
525			Option "NoPM" "boolean"
526			Disables something to do with power management events. Default: PM
527			enabled on platforms that support it.
528			[xorg.conf(5)]
529			%
530			> Yes, this would be something _in addition_ to what the FSF does.
531			> Grant money could be used to hire one or two fresh graduates that
532			> would work on code.
533
534			Graduates in which discipline? Computer science? This sounds to me
535			like the idea to hire one or two fresh graduates in English literature
536			and language with the idea to let them start writing novels.
537			[87liaj740v.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org]
538			%
539	root	1.434	[and that's why I don't support gentoo anymore]
540			As with Francois, I used to use ccache for recompiling packages that
541			hadn’t finished the first time — but for a different reason. At
542			the time, I had overrated memory, and a BIOS without a memory clock
543			option. The system was generally fine, but once in awhile would scramble
544			a memory transfer enough to cause a crash. CCache was a LOT of help in
545			that instance, as it’s what allowed me to even install Gentoo at all —
546			there’s no way I could have gotten thru gcc, (monolitic) X, glibc, or
547			the then unsplit KDE compiles, without it.
548			%
549			Kay, you are so full of sh*t that it's not funny. You're refusing to
550			acknowledge your bugs, you refuse to fix them even when a patch is
551			sent to you, and then you make excuses for the fact that we have to
552			work around your bugs, and say that we should have done so from the
553			very beginning.
554			[Linus in http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1369384]
555			%
556			systemd creates user session information in
557			/run/user/$user . I brought up with lennart the fact that this would
558			only permit one session per user. He rejected out of hand the fact
559			that more than one session would ever be needed, because Gnome only
560			allowed one session per user.
561			[http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/04/msg00751.html]
562			%
563	root	1.433	> Mailman archives! IIRC Heiko mentioned that there are more disputes
564			> about Lennart Poettering and his software on ALL mailing lists, than
565			> about anything else.
566			>
567			> Why is it like that?
568
569			Probably because he has all the arrogance of DJB but none of the skill.
570
571			[http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/44574]
572			%
573			[from a discussion about GNOME 3 "branding" mentality]
574
575			>> However, there are a number of serious problems:
576			>>
577			>> 1. Extensions break with every release. As Paolo said earlier, "This is
578			>> simply the result of not (yet) having a defined extension API." Yet this is
579			>> also part of the design: extensions specify versions of gnome-shell they
580			>> work with, so are trivially broken by new versions even if they might work.
581			>
582			> I don't think you understand well why this was designed this way.
583
584			That's the sort of thing people say to the judge of a serial killer.
585			The reasons don't matter for calling the results terrible.
586			%
587			(partial) Beaufort Table
588			Name # km/h (min) m/s (min)
589			Calm 0 0 0
590			Light Air 1 1.1 0.3
591			Light Breeze 2 5.6 1.6
592			Gentle Breeze 3 12 3.4
593			Moderate Breeze 4 20 5.5
594			Fresh Breeze 5 29 8
595			Strong Breeze 6 39 10.8
596			Moderate Gale 7 50 13.9
597			Fresh Gale 8 62 17.2
598			Strong Gale 9 75 20.8
599			%
600			"I have an open mind (I did consider voting liberal democrat once)."
601			- random imdb forum quote excerpt
602			%
603			"Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure
604			sign of a diseased mind." [Terry Pratchett]
605			%
606			The butcher who kills the baby to see how it comes apart did choose his
607			profession because of his sensitive soul. He chose it because death and
608			suffering, blood and gore, appeal to him. Dismembering the baby was always
609			on the cards.
610			%
611			[random comment from amule sources]
612			// trust noone ;-)
613			// lol, useless comment but made me lmao
614			// wtf you guys are weird.
615			%
616	root	1.432	Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid.
617			- Kin Hubbard
618			%
619			[random .sig]
620			I'm a muslim.
621
622			No I won't email you a bomb if you tick me off, but only because I don't know how to.
623			%
624			[...] don't do a double-take if you cuss in front of a woman. If she's read any
625			of the kernel code (notably arch/sparc/), she's heard of the word "fuck"
626			before.
627
628			[Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO]
629			%
630			<imho>
631
632			BASIC - fun! (For small programs at least.)
633			Smalltalk - fun! (Until you have to interact with anything else.)
634			Lisp - fun! (Until your eyeballs fall out from looking at too many parentheses.)
635			Arduino sketches - fun! (As long as they fit on one page.)
636
637			ObjC - sort of fun...once you understand 200 Cocoa classes.
638			Java - public static void not fun.
639			C++ - definitely not fun. STL seems like it should be fun but it isn't.
640			C - usually not fun.
641
642			What about modern scripting languages?
643
644			JavaScript - sort of fun! Until you have to deal with the DOM or various not-fun frameworks.
645			Ruby - fun! Until you try to do something with Rails.
646			Python - fun! Until you try to write a GUI app.
647
648			</imho>
649
650			[http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/2/]
651			%
652			"Die deutschen Zensoren------------------- --------------------------
653			Dummköpfe-------- -------------------------------------------"
654			%
655
656			* GFX_IS_DISPLAY_MODE_SUPPORTED
657			*
658			* This routine sets the specified display mode.
659
660			n = n%2 ? n : ++n;
661			[plan9, /sys/src/cmd/eqn/paren.c]
662			%
663			# The user is always right.
664			if test "${PATH_SEPARATOR+set}" != set; then
665			[autoconf]
666			%
667			from linux-2.6.37/fs/fcntl.c:
668
669			/*
670			* We need to detect attempts to do dup2() over allocated but still
671			* not finished descriptor. NB: OpenBSD avoids that at the price of
672			* extra work in their equivalent of fget() - they insert struct
673			* file immediately after grabbing descriptor, mark it larval if
674			* more work (e.g. actual opening) is needed and make sure that
675			* fget() treats larval files as absent. Potentially interesting,
676			* but while extra work in fget() is trivial, locking implications
677			* and amount of surgery on open()-related paths in VFS are not.
678			* FreeBSD fails with -EBADF in the same situation, NetBSD "solution"
679			* deadlocks in rather amusing ways, AFAICS. All of that is out of
680			* scope of POSIX or SUS, since neither considers shared descriptor
681			* tables and this condition does not arise without those.
682			*/
683			%
684			Taken straight out of lilo... This way of intermixing case with if (0)
685			was new to me:
686
687			switch(c)
688			{
689			case 'x': base=16; type \|= 4; if(0) {
690			case 'o': base= 8; type \|= 4; } if(0) {
691			case 'u': base=10; type \|= 4; } if(0) {
692			case 'd': base=-10; }
693			switch(type)
694			{
695			case 0: val=va_arg(ap, short); break;
696			case 1: val=va_arg(ap, int); break;
697			case 2: val=va_arg(ap, long); break;
698			case 4: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned short); break;
699			case 5: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned int); break;
700			case 6: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned long); break;
701			default:val=0; break;
702			}
703			cp = __numout(val,base);
704			if(0) {
705			case 's':
706			cp=va_arg(ap, char *);
707			}
708			%
709			Also, it is not true that UTC-1 is THE civilian time scale. While it
710			is certainly one, physical seconds are as enshrined in law as UTC
711			timestamps. Try arguing that you weren't caught speeding at midnight
712			at the end of the year because the calculation should have used an
713			extra second and see how far you get :-)
714			[Nick Maclaren, in <8ta60d$aq6$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>]
715			%
716			> > Actually it's not fully backward compatible. As I was just reminded, the
717			> > libc `sync' function, which is what the fileutils sync uses (sync is in
718			> > fileutils, not sh-utils), is backward-compatible and thus not synchronous
719			> > (it passes a zero wait flag in file_syncfs).
720			>
721			> Hmm. Hurd sync should use the libc sync function too; it should not
722			> set the wait flag. If it does, that's a bug.
723
724			It must be a confusing feature, because the code was written by the
725			infamous Michael I. Bushnell (may he rest in peace), who did not write bugs.
726
727			[from a random discussion about hurd, 199901032206.RAA27962@baalperazim.frob.com]
728			%
729			It is immediately apparent from these figures that moving-arm disks
730			should never be used, neither for paging applications nor for any other
731			heavy-traffic auxiliary memory applications.
732
733			Peter J. Denning -- Virtual Memory (1970)
734
735			http://portal.acm.org/ft_gateway.cfm?id=356573&type=pdf&coll=portal&dl=ACM&CFID=15151515&CFTOKEN=6184618
736			%
737			(i was impatient to bikeshed with diego on code indenting... btw this
738			whole indentation rules/enforcement should gone, it's nonsense, i dont
739			know any coder who uses consistent indentation over all his code... only
740			beginner programmers do, sometimes. if anyone wants to read the code in
741			nice indentation, he can anytime run a code formatter with his favourite
742			settings)
743
744			http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2011-January/104674.html
745			%
746			How do I deal with memory leaks?
747
748			By writing code that doesn't have any. [...]
749
750			[From Bjarne Stroustrup's C++ Style and Technique FAQ]
751			%
752			This kind of arguments doesn't really make sense for Fedora. We should
753			ship the best implementation, not the most "tried and true" one.
754
755			http://www.devheads.net/linux/fedora/development/libjpeg-f14.htm
756			%
757			The situation in the US: If you do anything before 2067 to preserve the
758			recording on a wax-cylinder from 1895, the terrorists win. Do you really
759			hate hard-working American families that much? Thank God Senator Orrin
760			Hatch and the RIAA love America's children more than you do.
761
762			The situation in Europe: Sound recordings up to 1960 are already in the
763			public domain. The terrorists have won. Our only hope of restoring the
764			justice of eternal and infinite copyright (and therefore saving our own
765			children's lives!) lies in the selfless efforts of the likes of Bono and
766			Cliff Richard, as they cry all the way to the bank about artists not being
767			rewarded for their creativity.
768
769			Let's hope that by the time you finish reading this sentence, copyright
770			will have been extended another 99 years... you know, to justly compensate
771			that bloke sitting by a mic in 1895. If he'd thought that in 2066
772			librarians would be able to copy his recording without his permission, he
773			would never have made it in the first place.
774
775			http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52573
776			%
777			"I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in
778			future understand things" -- Jörg Schilling
779			%
780			Nobody has bought freaking 160GB of music from the iTunes store. I figured
781			it out once, conservatively it was like $53,000 of music. And yet somehow
782			Apple has managed to sell tens of millions of iPods with up to 160GB
783			capacity, and even the smaller iPods would cost many thousands of dollars
784			to fill from the iTunes store. The iPod was worthwhile because of piracy.
785
786			http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/09/intels-walled-garden-plan-to-put-av-vendors-out-of-business.ars?comments=1#comment-20806800
787			%
788			"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
789			Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
790			- Mohandas Gandhi
791			%
792			"And so I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
793			the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the
794			handiwork of the Lord."
795			- Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" Vol. I, chapter 2, Murphy Ed. (p. 46)
796			%
797			Scientific Scrutiny and Disclosure
798
799			I was wondering how anyone possibly could conclude from this exchange that
800			Lenski was hiding something. I came to the conclusion that some people
801			must not understand how scientific scrutiny works. I wrote a guide.
802
803			Scientific scrutiny works like this:
804			Scientist A publishes results.
805
806			Scientist B: A, I tried duplicating your experiment, but parameters x, y,
807			and z that I need were not in your article. I need you to disclose to me
808			x, y, and z that you used at the time. What are they?
809
810			A: x, y, and z are such and such.
811			B: Using x, y, and z, my result doesn't agree with yours at all. Are you
812			sure you did the procedures that you claimed?
813			A: ...
814			B: You fraud!
815
816			Scientific scrutiny does not work like this:
817
818			A publishes results.
819
820			B: I have Generic Skepticism toward your article. Under code viii of the
821			Publication Criteria, I demand that you give me all of your data!
822			A: ... ok...? It seems that everything you would need is already in the
823			article. Did you have something specific in mind?
824			B: A has refused to attach all data he has ever used for the
825			experiment. He is withholding information and thus hiding something.
826
827			-- Carafe 01:42, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
828			[http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservapedia:Lenski_affair_talk_1]
829			%
830			[regarding sites requesting visitors to allow advertisements and not block
831			them because they need the money to operate]
832
833			"The readers are not the customer. The customer is the advertiser, and the
834			readers are the product which that website promises to deliver. But the
835			readers, being the product and not the customer, have no obligation to the
836			site or its bottom line."
837			%
838			"..but a short time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of
839			the Jewish religion before his principles were departed from by those
840			who professed to be his special servants, & perverted into an engine for
841			enslaving mankind, and aggrandizing their oppressors in church & state:
842			that the purest system of morals ever before preached to man has been
843			adulterated & sophisticated, by artificial constructions, into a mere
844			contrivance to filch wealth & power to themselves, that rational men not
845			being able to swallow their impious heresies, in order to force them down
846			their throats, they raise the hue & cry of infidelity, while themselves
847			are the greatest obstacles to the advancement of the real doctrines of
848			Jesus, and do in fact constitute the real Anti-Christ."
849			– Thomas Jefferson to William Baldwin, 19 January 1810 (draft – never sent)
850			%
851			Ignorance is the state of not having the data.
852
853			Idiocy is the state of having the data, but not being able to process it.
854
855			Willful ignorance is the state of censoring out all data you don’t want to hear.
856			%
857			["only those parts in the bible I like are authentic"]
858
859			>>>> but doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support slavery, genocide,
860			>>>> and the beating of children?
861			>>>
862			>>> Subjugation of women...
863			>>
864			>> "doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support ..." Only for bible
865			>> literalists and those who ignore what Jesus himself taught. By all
866			>> means call out any religious person who is acting immorally but try to
867			>> understand that the rest of us who are trying to follow the Way as best
868			>> as we can don't usually have the clout to wrestle the Falwells and the
869			>> Robertsons and their ilk to the ground. If we can agree on that, then,
870			>> shake partner.
871			>
872			> Ever read Matthew 5:31-32? Jesus said it and taught it.
873			>
874			> He says my wife is an adultress since she divorced her 1st husband all
875			> on account of her not taking his punches and kicks with good-natured
876			> humor. That "pearl of wisdom" also says that I'm an adulterer for
877			> choosing to spend the rest of my life with her.
878			>
879
880			As written, it seems pretty clear. Until you remember the book of matthew
881			was written decades after Jesus's death based on memories and oral
882			traditions, not to mention translation inaccuracies and ulterior motives
883			of the writers. No one really knows what Jesus really said or what he
884			really meant. It could all be wildly inacurrate. I think the fault is in
885			those who would use those words to justify their shabby treatment of you
886			and your wife.
887			%
888			Atheists care about religion for the same reason other people care about
889			cancer. If you aren't careful, it will kill you, and if you are, it could
890			still kill you. - arestheblue
891			%
892			Once upon a time there was the CAT working group whose name was an
893			abbreviation for "Common Authentication Technology". It produced IETF
894			specifications for GSS-API.
895
896			It was succeeded by the kitten working group, which has been working on
897			the next-generation GSS-API specifications.
898
899			There is now a proposal for a MOGGIES working group, which will work on
900			Mechanisms Of Generating Generically Interoperable & Effective Security.
901
902			[http://fanf.livejournal.com/?style=mine]
903			%
904			[from the minix 3 users guide]
905
906			ELLE is a simple and clear text editor (once you've figured out the key commands).
907			%
908			[Tips how to deal with complaints when running TOR exit nodes]
909
910			During the conversation make sure you explain a few points:
911			[...]
912			You are not insane. You may be insane, but we don't want the
913			complaintant to guess this is true.
914			%
915			"One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code."
916			- Ken Thompson.
917			%
918			http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-01-16-50-Math-Project-released.html
919
920			"Scientific calculations are becoming a reality in Syllable"
921
922			Dunning-Kruger at its best - the tool that "carries Syllable to
923			universities" can calculate sine and cosine values of integer inputs...
924			source code excerpt:
925
926			int sn()
927			{
928			char pwr;
929
930			int input1 = 0;
931			double output1 = 0;
932
933			system("clear");
934			cout<<"This is the Sin() calculator, please enter a number"<<endl;
935			cin>>input1;
936			output1 = (sin(input1));
937			cout<<"Sin() of"<< input1<<" is: "<<output1<<endl;
938			cout<<"Please press 'a' for recalculate or 'm' to return to main menu"<<endl;
939			cin>>pwr;
940			if(pwr == 'a')
941			sq();
942			if(pwr == 'm')
943			system("pause");
944
945			}
946			%
947			It allows a web browser and a web server to have a persistent, two-way
948			full-duplex connection using just one TCP connection.
949
950			[mind-boggling, they provide TCP features with just TCP!!!11]
951
952			http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-02-22-16-WebSockets-for-Cheyenne-web-server.html
953			%
954			From the "my window manager is boiling bullshit, so you have to fix your
955			app for me" department:
956
957			From: Evan LeCompte
958
959			Myself and many other members of the Archlinux community (and anyone using
960			Linux with a tiling window manager for that matter) humbly beg you (the
961			developers) for a single-windowed version of GIMP.
962			%
963			"I will give you credit for having balls. In spite of your comments being
964			a PR ploy based on biased views, you consistently imply that we're just
965			indulging in a PR ploy based on biased views."
966
967			http://tamino.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/old-news/
968			%
969			"We do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone ...
970			Folks who want porn can buy an Android phone"
971			– Steve Jobs[47]
972
973			"We can’t adapt European magazines to the standards of Utah."
974			– Mathias Müller von Blumencron (editor of Der Spiegel, warning that
975			the news magazine would not alter its content for the App Store)
976			%
977			The naked truth of it is, I have no shirt.
978			-- William Shakespeare, "Love's Labour's Lost"
979			%
980			Subject: [Gimp-user] Completely off every imaginable topic;)
981			From: Patrick Horgan
982			Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:13:38 -0800
983			To: GIMP Users <gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU>
984
985			Have you ever noticed that people's progress in using, supporting,
986			writing bug reports for, and sometimes even developing for, writing
987			documentation for, or translating for open source software is paralleled
988			by their progress from top-posting to bottom posting to interlinear
989			posting, to intelligent elision with interlinear posting? I see it on
990			the gimp, and on other lists all the time.
991
992			[...]
993			%
994	root	1.431	"Logic has made me hated among men"
995			— Peter Abelard
996			%
997			A man said to the universe:
998			"Sir I exist!"
999			"However," replied the universe,
1000			"The fact has not created in me
1001	root	1.432	A sense of obligation."
1002			- Steven Crane
1003	root	1.431	%
1004			He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool; avoid him.
1005
1006			He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a student; teach him.
1007
1008			He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep; wake him.
1009
1010			He who knows and knows that he knows is a wise man; follow him.
1011
1012			– Sanskrit Saying
1013			%
1014			[anonymised discussion]
1015			AGW-Denialist: ... blabla ... Karl Hopper ... blabla ... falsification ...
1016			Scientist: Karl Hopper, eh? You're like the energizer bunny of wrong.
1017			%
1018			[http://www.opengl.org/registry/specs/NV/render_texture_rectangle.txt]
1019
1020	root	1.432	Additions to the WGL Specification
1021	root	1.431
1022			First, close your eyes and pretend that a WGL specification actually
1023			existed. Maybe if we all concentrate hard enough, one will magically
1024			appear.
1025			%
1026			"All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust,
1027			sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others."
1028			- Douglas Adams
1029			%
1030			I like how whether a German is a "skinhead" or a "pussy", he's still considered a typical German.
1031			[http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=21884]
1032			%
1033	root	1.462	"A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will
1034			lose both, and deserve neither" -- Thomas Jefferson
1035	root	1.431	%
1036			"This is a further proof of the skill of astronomers
1037			in fitting a straight line to a circle!"
1038			- footnote in "OUR BEST FRIEND, THE COMA CLUSTER"
1039			http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Biviano/Biviano_contents.html
1040			%
1041			Am Grunde eines Problems sitzt immer ein Deutscher (Voltaire)
1042			%
1043			"I'm Prime Minister of Canada, I live here and I'm going to take a leak."
1044			- Lester Pearson in 1967, during a meeting between himself and
1045			President Lyndon Johnson, whose Secret Service detail had taken over
1046			Pearson's cottage retreat. At one point, a Johnson guard asked
1047			Pearson, "Who are you and where are you going?"
1048			%
1049			It's a known fact that not a single competent, experienced, skilled
1050			programmer in the world uses an IDE, nor has used one at any point in his
1051			or her career.
1052			[http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl/?node_id=636318]
1053			%
1054			It was stated that WIMPs and MACHOs were in the category of particle known
1055			as "Fabricated Ad hoc Inventions Repeatedly Invoked in Efforts to Defend
1056			Untenable Scientific Theories" (FAIRIE DUST).
1057			%
1058			I LOVE YOU
1059			["authentication succeeded" protocol token used by cvs pserver]
1060			%
1061			General consensus seems to be 2.6.18 is where the manure intersected with
1062			the air impeller.
1063
1064			Alan Cox
1065			%
1066			"I'm being elitist: awesome 3 is designed for power users
1067			with a minimum computer science background."
1068			%
1069			From: Eric Sosman
1070			Newsgroups: comp.std.c
1071			Subject: Re: about graphics
1072
1073			prince wrote:
1074			> how to get command over graphics in c language?
1075
1076			#include <stdio.h>
1077			int main(void) {
1078			puts("graphics\rcommand");
1079			return 0;
1080			}
1081			%
1082			I tried the Vista speech recognition by running the tutorial. I was
1083			amazed, it was awesome, recognised every word I said. Then I said the
1084			wrong word ... and it typed the right one. It was actually just
1085			detecting a sound and printing the expected word! -- pbhj on /.
1086			%
1087			[Bodo Moeller in http://groups.google.com/group/sci.crypt/msg/e79e65ed9077d0ba]
1088
1089			While the 2^128 step search talks a very long time indeed,
1090			it still is a constant-time attack.
1091			%
1092			"Verleumdung mußt Du frech betreiben, es wird schon etwas hängenbleiben!"
1093			-- Karl Joseph Simrock
1094			%
1095			From: David Damerell
1096
1097			Quoting Epic Campaigns <NoS...@NoSpamMe.com>:
1098			>Because C# is case sensitive, you can use the same name with different
1099			>caps to make it different.
1100
1101			Alternatively you could set your nose hair on fire, which will also be
1102			painful but will take less typing.
1103			%
1104			Well, I think comparing Common Lisp to Scheme is prima facie evidence
1105			of ill will, even if Common Lisp wins. It is somewhat like a supposed
1106			compliment like "man, you are even smarter than George W. Bush".
1107
1108			Erik Naggum in 3231422371368070@naggum.net
1109			%
1110			From: Hans-Jürgen Koch
1111
1112			> The GPL places additional restrictions on code. It is therefore less
1113			> free than the BSD.
1114			>
1115			> Free code + restrictions = non-free code.
1116
1117			The legal restriction that people must not enter your house uninvited
1118			by smashing the door adds to your freedom, don't you think so?
1119			%
1120			[C++ doesn't have the monopoly on hard-to-read diagnostics]
1121
1122			State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘(void ()(struct CoroSLF , struct CV *,
1123			struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
1124			from incompatible pointer type
1125			State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 3 of ‘(void ()(struct CoroSLF , struct CV *,
1126			struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
1127			makes pointer from integer without a cast
1128			State.xs:1927: error: too few arguments to function ‘(void ()(struct CoroSLF ,
1129			struct CV , struct SV *, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
1130			%
1131			The idea that governments have rights is absurd. People have rights. The
1132			people have delegated certain tasks to government for their own
1133			convenience, and have accepted limits on some minimal subset of their
1134			rights so that society can best protect the rest. Note that "society" is
1135			not the same as "the government"; the government is just a mechanism used
1136			by society to accomplish certain specific things.
1137
1138			[Chandon Seldon]
1139			%
1140			[Wikipedia]
1141			Differences between vi and Emacs
1142
1143			The neutrality of this article is disputed.
1144			%
1145			[lost the reference]
1146			Remember that openssl is generally the upper
1147			bound on how difficult a library can be to use.
1148			%
1149			"Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it's pointless
1150			to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and
1151			elitist. No novices asking stupid questions."
1152			%
1153			[aol 4tw, messages are edited for readability]
1154
1155			Subject: Re: fcrack help
1156			From: puezalb024@aol.com
1157			Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:27:46 -0500
1158			To: schmorp@schmorp.de
1159			X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
1160
1161			well how about making the manual more accessable u fukin cumtwat. take
1162			ur shitty software n shove it homo. this program sux anyway. i wouldnt
1163			have to read a manual if you actually knew how to create a good piece of a
1164			working program you stupid fuck. n let me tell you thats a good way to get
1165			your name out there or your software, just tel the customer their wrong,
1166			yeah, thatll work. may you rot in piss, if your head was on fire i would
1167			piss on your leg.
1168
1169			?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
1170			maybe you should go to school and learn how to spell cuz who the fuck
1171			spells marK with a c? musta been a baby of a couple retards
1172
1173			[then, a day later]
1174
1175			Subject: Re: fcrack help
1176			From: puezalb024@aol.com
1177			Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:02:20 -0500
1178			To: schmorp@schmorp.de
1179			X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
1180
1181			just kno that your an idiot. dont be mad at me cuz your mommy n daddy cant
1182			aford to buy you aol, its not my problem. like anyone is going to read
1183			your stupid post anyway.. noone likes your program, how about you read the
1184			previous posts n then we'll see. so you just keep sitting in your basement
1185			all by your lonesome?wasting your time making useless software buddy, cuz
1186			quiet frankly i could give 2 shits. oh yeah if you plan on posting my
1187			response make sure you dont edit nothing and include ALL of my response u
1188			fucking nerd. why dont you put it on ur myspace as well, print up a couple
1189			copies n post em on your walls too buddy
1190
1191
1192			-----Original Message-----
1193			From: Marc Lehmann <schmorp@schmorp.de>
1194			To: puezalb024@aol.com
1195			Sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 2:17 am
1196			Subject: Re: fcrack help
1197
1198
1199
1200			On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 07:27:46PM -0500, puezalb024@aol.com wrote:
1201	root	1.432	>
1202	root	1.431	> ?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
1203
1204			I was suspecting that aol users have, uhm, issues, but that's just hilarious :->
1205
1206			Note that I will publish your response so other people can share the fun,
1207			I hope you don't object :)
1208			%
1209			>Dummerweise steht es auch in der Welt der Wunder Zeitschrift und die ist
1210			>dafür bekannt Fakten zu liefern.
1211
1212			You made my day
1213			%
1214			[http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0810.1/2945.html]
1215
1216			Names are important. In fact, naming is often _more_ important than the
1217			implementation is. And that means that the implementation should follow
1218			the naming, or the implementation is wrong.
1219
1220			Linus
1221			%
1222			The ultimate hipocrisy is when people send you mails like this:
1223
1224			From: Christian Walde <mithaldu@yahoo.de>
1225
1226			I'll be utterly blunt now and ask this in advance: Are you being an asshole on purpose? If so, please just stop reading now and ignore a person trying t ...
1227
1228			[lots of kilobyte-sized single-line paragraphs omitted]
1229
1230			As too many people send me top- and fully-quoted
1231			emails, here is a guide on how to be considerate
1232			when sending emails to other people:
1233			http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
1234
1235			[which states to not use more than, say, 72 columns per line]
1236
1237			[mail quoted with permission btw.]
1238			%
1239			* k-god tries to think of the one mutt enhancement he'd like...
1240			<k-god> OK. Two. One: A backscratcher.
1241			<brendan> I believe muttng has one of those
1242			<k-god> Two: An implementation of the Internet Face Stab Protocol for MS Outlook lusers.
1243			<brendan> and I think outlook does that on its own :)
1244			%
1245			I had some issues though, functions like tmpfile() could only
1246			be used if run as administrator in windows.
1247
1248			Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <n.mavrogiannopoulos@gmail.com>
1249			%
1250			[on italy]
1251
1252			#24. fallingstones - 08-10 03:51
1253
1254			@youruncledarnell: First, sorry for my very bad English. Yes, the
1255			majority of Italians are totally idiot, otherwise the Prime Minister
1256			wouldn't be Silvio Berlusconi, and of course also the justice is not
1257			only politicized, but also spectacularized.
1258
1259			Not only. We've the only nation in all EU having a State-controlled
1260			corporation on copyright (SIAE). This corporation have also hated
1261			by a lot of artists, Italian and foreigner, 'cause the division of
1262			funds is "strange". If some of you can understand a lot of Italian, I
1263			suggest viewing an old service on Italian TV program "Report" talking
1264			on SIAE. You can read and viewing it on this url (sorry for long url)
1265
1266			http://www.report.rai.it/R2_popup_articolofoglia/0,7246,243%255E90082,00.html
1267
1268			Our legislation on copyright is basically on a law of 1943, approved
1269			during WWII by fascism and signed by the king. We're a Republic since
1270			1948 and our Costitution dislike fascism, but we've conserved all laws
1271			from fascism period.
1272
1273			We don't admit officially other copyright licenses, like GPL or CC,
1274			cause "legally" every creation would be registered in SIAE, giving to
1275			them all rights (also rights of persecuting uses not authorized). An
1276			author of a song can't authorize itself a pianist for playing his
1277			song. If the song is registered in SIAE (and if isn't, isn't legally
1278			created, and the author isn't recognized) the pianist MUST pay the
1279			royalties, that eventually will be refunded to him by the author (if
1280			they are accorded) when, after a lot of MONTHS, he receive it from
1281			SIAE.
1282
1283			We've also some laws against Freedom of Speech, for example our penal
1284			code include apology law, that pratically means you can't say why
1285			you consider wrong a penal law. People can ask (with a lot of signs)
1286			elections for deleting a law, but not for a penal law, or better can't
1287			explain why that law it's wrong and would be deleted. If you can't
1288			explain, you'll obviously will not found never other people signing
1289			your petition (and you need at least 500, and with a REAL signs, not
1290			electronic ones
1291
1292			#25. fallingstones - 08-10 03:52
1293
1294			Then, only parties have sufficient funds for these things, and we
1295			don't have a party sufficiently interested in freedom of speech
1296			(on internet and not). 'Cause limiting Freedom of Speech included
1297			CONTROL. We've the last western country in Freedom of Speech (at least
1298			based on Freedomhouse annual statistic), the only "Partly Free" in
1299			western country.
1300
1301			I'm so sorry for being Italian, for our very stupid justice, for our
1302			very bad country laws and on all for our very stupid prime minister,
1303			but trust me, I can assure you we don't be ALL so stupid. In last
1304			elections, with an absurd law on elections, other parties have been
1305			deleted from parliament. Now we've only two main coalitions, the
1306			Berlusconi's one and the Veltroni's one. All of them have approved
1307			laws against freedom on internet, and generally against technology
1308			innovations. For these reason, all the last governments are fascists,
1309			also the governments of "center-left".
1310
1311			Again, sorry you and all for my bad English. I hope you can understand.
1312
1313			If I can, I suggest Brokep creating a guide for using TOR, a little
1314			great program (and it's free) for surfing the net anonymously and
1315			without any restriction.
1316
1317			Brokep and all TPB staff, go forward forever. You're my personal myth,
1318			and the hope that good people using brain like you exists into the
1319			world.
1320
1321			Long life to the Bay, forever.
1322			Sorry for the long message and sorry if I'm using TOR, I hope you understand.
1323			Thank you for reading.
1324			%
1325			> > don't even attempt to compare the nvidia driver support to ati's craptacular drivers.
1326			>
1327			> don't even attempt to post a useful comment
1328
1329			How very ironic.
1330			%
1331			With or without religion, we would have good people doing good things and
1332			evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that
1333			takes religion."
1334
1335			--Steve Weinberg
1336			%
1337			http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/en/why-not-use_java.xhtml
1338			%
1339			[Kurt Roecks on his change that had totally broken openssl for two years in debian]
1340			[Folks, fix valgrind bugs in your code, not in other people's code,]
1341			[if you don't understand how valgrind works]
1342
1343			"I've ran all the regression test thru valgrind, using the memset()
1344			solves most of those. As far as I know, commenting out those 2 calls
1345			solved all the warnings valgrind reported."
1346			%
1347			[From: "H.Merijn Brand"]
1348			The more I (have to) work with java, the more I am convinced perl is
1349			the right tool for me.
1350			%
1351			[deliantra]
1352			02:58:42 [Kyle] my summoned pets ate my rod of show invisible
1353			%
1354			I pretend to work because the Soviet government pretends to pay me.
1355			%
1356			cerebro ~# fuser -km /wd_old
1357			/wd_old: 5270c 12266c 12274c 12275
1358			Suddenly the Dungeon collapses!! - You die...
1359			%
1360			From the CFA633 datasheet:
1361
1362			* Do not eat the LCD panel.
1363			%
1364			>> Well, in German there is no "sports" but just "Sport".
1365			>> So by that little S at the end of sports, you could tell it's English.
1366
1367			It's the same in English as it is in German; the little S at the end
1368			actually tells you it's American.
1369			%
1370			[better do not hire this programmer]
1371			From: Tony Jackson <tj76351@gmail.com>
1372			Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
1373			Subject: Avoiding dereference of NULL pointer
1374
1375			Hi
1376
1377			I'm quite new to C programming - I have more of a Java background: maybe
1378			someone here can advise me.
1379
1380			I'm nearly finishing a little program but it has some hard-to-find bugs
1381			that basically lead to a couple pointers sometimes being NULL at the
1382			wrong time. As it stands the program just bombs out when it tries to
1383			dereference the NULL, which obviously isn't good (especially when it
1384			happens with the customer looking on!!).
1385
1386			I don't think there's any serious problem to worry about, and what I'd
1387			like to do is be able to ignore the dereference attempt and just carry
1388			on - probably the next time round the loop the pointer will be OK. In
1389			Java, I'd put a try block around the main loop, and if we catch an
1390			exception then just jump back to the start of the main loop. What's the
1391			corresponding thing in C?
1392
1393			Thanks!
1394			%
1395			[from mozilla 1.7b sources]
1396
1397			// See bug 53763.
1398			nsCOMPtr<nsIViewManager> kungFuDeathGrip;
1399			nsIPresShell *shell = doc->GetShellAt(0);
1400			if (shell) {
1401			kungFuDeathGrip = shell->GetViewManager();
1402			%
1403			[the beginning, and most common codepath, of getpid() on my linux 2.6
1404			amd64 box in a program using glibc 2.3's pthreads. thats fucking cool]
1405
1406			0x000000300049af30 <getpid+0>: mov %fs:0x94,%edx
1407			0x000000300049af38 <getpid+8>: cmp $0x0,%edx
1408			0x000000300049af3b <getpid+11>: mov %edx,%eax
1409			0x000000300049af3d <getpid+13>: jle 0x300049af41 <getpid+17>
1410			0x000000300049af3f <getpid+15>: repz retq
1411			%
1412			(A lot of this OPM stuff seems to come straight from the twilight
1413			zone. It's normal to have error codes indicating that there was a disk
1414			error or that a network packet got garbled, but I'm sure Windows Vista
1415			must be the first OS in history to have error codes for things like
1416	root	1.462	"display quality too high").
1417	root	1.431
1418			[http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html]
1419			%
1420			Subject: Re: The right answer of -1^2 is?
1421
1422	root	1.432	> I don't think there's a real Right Way here other than reintroducing a
1423	root	1.431	> mechanism for explicitly signaling the grouping. Maybe parentheses? ;)
1424
1425			Nah. Use whitespace, like Fortress. Then you can distinguish between
1426
1427			x / y * z
1428
1429			and
1430
1431			x / y * z
1432
1433			That'll never cause problems, right? :)
1434
1435			(To be fair, I like Fortress. However, it did have some, er, unique
1436			design decisions.)
1437			%
1438			endergt:
1439			> snoofle:
1440			> > Every system (*nix, PC's, etc.) has a hex
1441			> > editor with a string-search capability - really not that hard if
1442			> > you understand what you are doing...
1443			>
1444	root	1.432	> Out of curiosity - what is the hex editor on a default Windows installation?
1445	root	1.431
1446	root	1.432	debug
1447	root	1.431	%
1448			C# is for people who want to have one arm strapped behind their back because it reduces the probability of making a mistake by 50%.
1449
1450			Java is for people who prefer to have the arm chopped off.
1451			%
1452			Steve Loughran: "The EU interop laws often come up in discussion, and they
1453			are interesting. They say that you are allowed to do reverse engineering
1454			for hardware interop. Not software: hardware."
1455
1456			Not sure what you're talking about, but Council Directive 91/250/EEC seems
1457			pretty clear to me (or as clear as legal texts can be to me...): "Article
1458			6 Decompilation
1459
1460			1. The authorization of the rightholder shall not be required where
1461			reproduction of the code and translation of its form within the meaning
1462			of Article 4 (a) and (b) are indispensable to obtain the information
1463			necessary to achieve the interoperability of an independently created
1464			computer program with other programs, provided that the following
1465			conditions are met: [...]"
1466			%
1467			http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/
1468			%
1469			Why Linux Sux ?
1470
1471			Easy .
1472			Security : most hackable operating systems are unix based .
1473			Portability : try installing unix on cutting edge hardware . bad luck it won`t work . install windows (the oldest) on any ... it will .
1474			Help : try get help for linux . after exploring tons of sites and forums the help you got is useless . for windows you just call them .
1475			Applications : we all know there are more and more on windows . linux will probably never get so many .
1476			GUI : we know how customisable is the windows gui . and how stable .
1477			Gaming : ...anyone got an ideea of a linux game that is really cool ?
1478			Cost : install linux as server ... it is free no ? but you have to pay a sysadmin . or learn a lot . buy a lot of books . using windows ... just click next . if you are not dumb you might make it secure too (reading help does HELP! ) .
1479			Virus : due to the fact that windows is so flexible it is logcal to have viruses . afterall the human body has more than a monkeys one .
1480			Stability : reboot windows 100 times by using the case button . perhaps a scandisk will appear . reboot linux ... ups kernel panic .
1481
1482			You don`t have money for OS ? Work ! Oh you hate miscrosoft and bill gates
1483			no ? Sure thing ... stupid and lazy people generally hate smart and hard
1484			working ones . Screw linux users .
1485			%
1486			19:26:03 <schmorp> did you know the us is officially metric? for over 100 years, too?
1487			19:26:27 -cfbot:#cf- [moerderer] it is also officially a democracy, go figure
1488			19:26:34 <schmorp> good point :)
1489			%
1490			> The Dell 30"...
1491
1492			It is big, but some of the reviews have not been so glowing, or rather,
1493			the glowing has been highly asymmetric.
1494			%
1495	root	1.432	Re: USA- an underdeveloped country with potentials
1496	root	1.431
1497			> > u don´t use your wealth with responsibility, you only think about yourself and shrug your shoulders with comments like, "we all have the same chance", I´m a selfmade man", "everyone has to take care of themselves".
1498	root	1.432	>
1499	root	1.431	> yeah, that's why your little brothers decided to save the world - including your grandparents' sorry asses - from hitler, because we think only of ourselves!
1500	root	1.432	>
1501	root	1.431	> your welcome, pinhead!
1502	root	1.432
1503	root	1.431	Even though I´m tired of hearing "we saved your a beep during ww2 I will respond.
1504
1505			1. Did you? Or did your great grandfathers? Maybe they were better?
1506			2. You came into the war very late, and that was strictly for buisness reasons. You need countries to trade with. The true hero in WW2 was actually Russia doing alot more then US ever did, not saying that I support Russia today.
1507			3. One good thing in the past doesn´t make up for bad things in your society today.
1508	root	1.432	4. With those retorics you will never learn anything from your own mistakes since you always can go back and talk about your effort 100 years ago.
1509	root	1.431	%
1510			[discussion about some changes in windows longhorn]
1511			Let's hope that some day Microsoft will catch up to what the
1512			public-domain tz code was doing back in 1986. (Good work, Arthur!)
1513			%
1514			ntfs ist dennoch für datei und ordnersicherheit zuständig.
1515
1516			Zum Beispiel unter Linux wenn man auf fat32 festplatten zugreifen will ist
1517			es kein problem, wenn man aber die festplatte auf ntfs convertiert hat,
1518			dann funktioniert dass nicht mehr der zugriff auf die festplatte.
1519
1520			Denn das ist die sicherheit vor zugriffen auf daten von anderen usern und
1521			anderen betriebssystemen.
1522
1523			Habe fat32 festplatte gehabt(zugriff von linux möglich) dann habe ich es
1524			auf ntfs umconvertiert und dann ging es nicht mehr.
1525
1526			habe nochmal in meinen unterlagen nachgeschlagen, haben erst ca. vor 3
1527			Wochen die Unterlagen vom Lehrer bekommen und ich sag nochmal, zittiere
1528			Lehrer: Fat32 sollte man heutzutage nicht mehr verwenden außer man hat
1529			Windows 98 und man möchte Dualbootkonfiguration erzielen. NTFS ist
1530			einfach für bessere Sicherheit zuständig.
1531
1532			Frage?
1533			Hast du Windows und Linux beides auf deinem Laptop oder Standpc?
1534			Wenn ja hattest du vorher eine fat32 festplatte?
1535			Hast du sie dann auf ntfs umconvertiert?
1536
1537			Freundlichen Grüße von Vista-Ultimate-Besitzer
1538			%
1539			"In this time of war against Osama bin Laden and the oppressive
1540			Taliban regime, we are thankful that OUR leader isn't the spoiled son
1541			of a powerful politician from a wealthy oil family who is supported by
1542			religious fundamentalists, operates through clandestine organizations,
1543			has no respect for the democratic electoral process, bombs innocents,
1544			and uses war to deny people their civil liberties." --The Boondocks
1545			%
1546			19:35:41 <elmex> dieses 'restore session' is soo sinnlos bei firefox
1547			19:35:54 <elmex> wenn die webseite die ihn gecrasht hat immer weieder crasht
1548			19:36:18 <schmorp> tja, bei mir restored er trotz einstellung nie etwas
1549			19:36:24 <schmorp> fragt sich wer mehr glück hat
1550			%
1551			What has happened is that Dave Winer got off a rant against JSON as
1552			reinventing XML's (and more specifically XML-RPC's) wheel:
1553
1554			God bless the re-inventers
1555
1556			Gotta love em, because there's no way they're going to stop breaking
1557			what works, and fixing what don't need no fixing
1558
1559	root	1.432	Crockford gets off a very pithy response:
1560	root	1.431
1561			The good thing about reinventing the wheel is that you can get a round
1562			one.
1563			%
1564			[rfc2665]
1565			The dot3StatsEtherChipSet object has now been deprecated.
1566			Implementation feedback indicates that this object is much more
1567			useful in theory than in practice.
1568			%
1569			15:40:51 <elmex> son buero is faszinierend
1570	root	1.432	15:41:08 <elmex> staendig hoerste leute seuftzen und jammern, und in 90% der faelle hats
1571	root	1.431	mit windows zu tun
1572			15:41:15 <elmex> oder mit software die dort laeuft
1573			15:41:37 <elmex> irgendwem is heut mrogen die mail inbox verloren gegangen
1574			15:41:47 <elmex> und hat sie dann wiedergefunden
1575			15:41:49 <elmex> irgendwie
1576			15:41:50 <elmex> irgendwo
1577	root	1.432	15:42:07 <elmex> achja, und backups gabs auch keine mehr, seit sich die passwoerter
1578	root	1.431	geaendert haben :->
1579			15:42:19 <elmex> (also seit wenigen tagen)
1580	root	1.432	15:47:10 <elmex> es ist auch erstaunlich wie wenig arbeit eigentlich so erledigt wird nach
1581	root	1.431	15:30
1582			15:47:48 <elmex> (mit ausnahmen)
1583			15:48:13 <elmex> aber 50-80% der zeit wird mit kommunikation verbracht
1584			%
1585			[http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=895394]
1586			The SparcStation2 technical docs recommend catting your /vmunix file to /dev/audio as a speaker test.
1587			If you go nearly deaf from the painful noise, then your speaker works.
1588			%
1589			http://www.azillionmonkeys.com/qed/optimize.html
1590
1591			Strictly for beginners
1592
1593			Techniques you might not be aware of if you have not been programming for the past 15 years of your life:
1594			[...]
1595			%
1596			http://tmbo.org/offensive/images/picpile/Welcome%20to%20paradise%21.jpg
1597			%
1598			17:34:47 <elmex> hab gehoert solaris soll GPL werden, oder zumindest denkt sun drueber nach :->:
1599			17:34:53 <schmorp> ja klar
1600			17:34:57 <schmorp> alles was lebenszeitende hat
1601			17:34:58 <schmorp> wird gpl
1602			17:35:02 <schmorp> weil sie denken, dann wirds übelreben
1603			17:35:05 <schmorp> bei mozilla hats auch gwekappt
1604			17:35:08 <elmex> hehe
1605			17:35:13 <schmorp> und die brrowserentwicklung unter linux locker ein jahr verzögert
1606			17:35:46 <elmex> dann kann joerd schilling ja endlich sein lieblings system entwickeln :-
1607			17:35:48 <elmex> :->
1608			17:35:58 <schmorp> macht er doch schon die ganze zeit
1609			17:36:02 <schmorp> chillingos, bzw.
1610			17:36:18 <elmex> uh
1611			17:36:53 <schmorp> ich finds nicht mehr
1612			17:36:57 <schmorp> er arbeitet jedenfalls dran
1613			17:38:27 <schmorp> SchilliX
1614			17:38:29 <schmorp> genau!
1615			17:38:30 <schmorp> :)
1616			17:38:33 <elmex> sueees
1617			17:38:34 <schmorp> http://developer.berlios.de/projects/schillix/
1618			17:39:59 <zaphod> omg das ist nicht wahr
1619			17:40:20 <schmorp> ihr kennt die geheimnisse und wunder unserer welt nicht
1620			17:40:32 <zaphod> das kann bestimmt CDs brennen wie nix anderes
1621			17:40:42 <elmex> lol
1622			17:41:06 <schmorp> :)
1623			%
1624			[A Gentoo User]
1625			First FreeBSD is UNIX. Yes FreeBSD runs beter then all other Linux
1626			distro’s but FreeBSD lacks any graphical features(stolen linux features
1627			doesn’t count) so it is only ment for guys with an old grey beards.
1628			[...] That’s why for geeks/nerds/professionals (like me) bsd exists [...]
1629			Gentoo is ment for professionals that need a system for a really exact
1630			environment and think LFS is to much work.
1631			[http://www.playingwithwire.com/2007/01/why-gentoo-shouldnt-be-on-your-server/]
1632			%
1633			20:08 <schmorp> my guess is, purely practically
1634			20:08 <schmorp> if copyright/patent law continues to go away from the original reasons
1635			20:08 <schmorp> that they were created for
1636			20:08 <schmorp> you will at one point have a civil war
1637			20:08 <schmorp> right now, you already have large-scale civil disobedience
1638	root	1.432	20:10 <scortch> i very much hope that it can be turned around before that happens. not the
1639			least reason is, in a Blade Runner dystopia, there isnt a lot that individuals
1640	root	1.431	can do
1641			20:11 <scortch> i.e. militarily
1642			20:11 <scortch> ah wait.
1643			20:12 <scortch> we are forgetting that low technology solutions are always around
1644			20:12 <schmorp> terrorism :)
1645			20:12 <schmorp> now i finally see the whole plot
1646			20:13 <scortch> that's quite a story
1647			%
1648			23:49 <ruskie> in my experience apart from a few exceptions all gentoo people are rude
1649	root	1.432	23:58 <Err> it seems logical that there is a strong correlation
1650			between (people who like to waste their time, and their computer's
1651			processing time, rebuilding things that have been built a million
1652	root	1.431	times before) and (idiots)
1653			23:58 <Err> (parenthesized for easy parsing ;-) )
1654	root	1.432	23:59 <Err> there are certainly exceptions to every rule - but in
1655			general, gentoo users think that they're getting magical properties
1656	root	1.431	out of rebuilding the same code everybody else builds
1657			%
1658			[http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/]
1659			Bruce Schneier decrypted the Bible. The plaintext read, "Bruce Schneier".
1660			%
1661			[http://www.mail-archive.com/cygwin-patches@cygwin.com/msg03644.html]
1662
1663			Internet Explorer: KB329781 "HTTP File Upload Operation Takes a Long Time
1664			to Complete". The printing subsystem: KB816627 "TCP/IP port printing may
1665			be slow in Windows 2000"
1666
1667			In the first KB microsoft amusingly states in relation to the fact that
1668			upload speed is limited to 80kbps no matter what the network bandwidth
1669			that "this behaviour is by design". The mind boggles...
1670			%
1671			[so much for type-safety]
1672			List<Integer> lst = new ArrayList<Integer>;
1673			lst.add(null);
1674			int x = 1 + lst.get(0);
1675			%
1676			[just for reference]
1677			Wenn man weiss, dass man in seinem Leben nicht mehr Glücklich werden
1678			kann, und sich von Tag zu Tag die Gründe dafür häufen, dann bleibt
1679			einem nichts anderes übrig als aus diesem Leben zu verschwinden. Und
1680			dafür habe ich mich entschieden. Es gibt vielleicht Leute die hätten
1681			weiter gemacht, hätten sich gedacht "das wird schon", aber das wird
1682			es nicht.
1683
1684			Man hat mir gesagt ich muss zur Schule gehen, um für mein leben zu
1685			lernen, um später ein schönes Leben führen zu können. Aber was bringt
1686			einem das dickste Auto, das grösste Haus, die schönste Frau, wenn es
1687			letztendlich sowieso für’n Arsch ist. Wenn deine Frau beginnt dich zu
1688			hassen, wenn dein Auto Benzin verbraucht das du nicht zahlen kannst, und
1689			wenn du niemanden hast der dich in deinem scheiss Haus besuchen kommt!
1690
1691			Das einzigste was ich intensiv in der Schule beigebracht bekommen habe
1692			war, das ich ein Verlierer bin. Für die ersten jahre an der GSS stimmt
1693			das sogar, ich war der Konsumgeilheit verfallen, habe danach gestrebt
1694			Freunde zu bekommen, Menschen die dich nicht als Person, sondern als
1695			Statussymbol sehen. Aber dann bin ich aufgewacht! Ich erkannte das die
1696			Welt wie sie mir erschien nicht existiert, das sie eine Illusion war,
1697			die hauptsächlich von den Medien erzeugt wurde. Ich merkte mehr und
1698			mehr in was für einer Welt ich mich befand. Eine Welt in der Geld alles
1699			regiert, selbst in der Schule ging es nur darum. Man musste das neuste
1700			Handy haben, die neusten Klamotten, und die richtigen "Freunde". hat
1701			man eines davon nicht ist man es nicht wert beachtet zu werden. Und diese
1702			Menschen nennt man Jocks. Jocks sind alle, die meinen aufgrund von teuren
1703			Klamotten oder schönen Mädchen an der Seite über anderen zu stehen. Ich
1704			verabscheue diese Menschen, nein, ich verabscheue Menschen.
1705
1706			Ich habe in den 18 Jahren meines Lebens erfahren müssen, das man nur
1707			Glücklich werden kann, wenn man sich der Masse fügt, der Gesellschaft
1708			anpasst. Aber das konnte und wollte ich nicht. Ich bin frei! Niemand darf
1709			in mein Leben eingreifen, und tut er es doch hat er die Konsequenzen zu
1710			tragen! Kein Politiker hat das Recht Gesetze zu erlassen, die mir Dinge
1711			verbieten, Kein Bulle hat das Recht mir meine Waffe wegzunehmen, schon gar
1712			nicht während er seine am Gürtel trägt.
1713
1714			Wozu das alles? Wozu soll ich arbeiten? Damit ich mich kaputtmaloche um
1715			mit 65 in den Ruhestand zugehen und 5 Jahre später abzukratzen? Warum
1716			soll ich mich noch anstrengen irgendetwas zu erreichen, wenn es
1717			letztendlich sowieso für'n Arsch ist weil ich früher oder später
1718			krepiere? Ich kann ein Haus bauen, Kinder bekommen und was weiss ich
1719			nicht alles. Aber wozu? Das Haus wird irgendwann abgerissen, und die
1720			Kinder sterben auch mal. Was hat denn das Leben bitte für einen
1721			Sinn? Keinen! Also muss man seinem Leben einen Sinn geben, und das
1722			mache ich nicht indem ich einem überbezahlten Chef im Arsch rumkrieche
1723			oder mich von Faschisten verarschen lasse die mir erzählen wollen wir
1724			leben in einer Volksherrschaft. Nein, es gibt für mich jetzt noch eine
1725			Möglichkeit meinem Leben einen Sinn zu geben, und die werde ich nicht wie
1726			alle anderen zuvor verschwenden! Vielleicht hätte mein Leben komplett
1727			anders verlaufen können. Aber die Gesellschaft hat nunmal keinen Platz
1728			für Individualisten. Ich meine richtige Individualisten, Leute die
1729			slebst denken, und nicht solche 'Ich trage ein Nietenarmband und bin
1730			alternativ' Idioten!
1731
1732			Ihr habt diese Schlacht begonnen, nicht ich. Meine Handlungen sind ein
1733			Resultat eurer Welt, eine Welt die mich nicht sein lassen will wie ich
1734			bin. Ihr habt euch über mich lustig gemacht, dasselbe habe ich nun mit
1735			euch getan, ich hatte nur einen ganz anderen Humor! Von 1994 bis 2003/2004
1736			war es auch mein Bestreben, Freunde zu haben, Spass zu haben. Als ich
1737			dann 1998 auf die GSS kam, fing es an mit den Statussymbolen, Kleidung,
1738			Freunde, Handy usw.. Dann bin ich wach geworden. Mir wurde bewusst das
1739			ich mein Leben lang der Dumme für andere war, und man sich über mich
1740			lustig machte. Und ich habe mir Rache geschworen! Diese Rache wird so
1741			brutal und rücksichtslos ausgeführt werden, dass euch das Blut in den
1742			Adern gefriert. Bevor ich gehe, werde ich euch einen Denkzettel verpassen,
1743			damit mich nie wieder ein Mensch vergisst! Ich will das ihr erkennt, das
1744			niemand das Recht hat unter einem faschistischen Deckmantel aus Gesetz und
1745			Religion in fremdes Leben einzugreifen!
1746
1747			Ich will das sich mein Gesicht in eure Köpfe einbrennt! Ich will
1748			nicht länger davon laufen! Ich will meinen Teil zur Revolution der
1749			Ausgestossenen beitragen!
1750
1751			Ich will R A C H E !
1752
1753			Ich habe darüber nachgedacht, dass die meisten der Schüler die mich
1754			gedemütigt haben schon von der GSS abgegangen sind. Dazu habe ich zwei
1755			Dinge zu sagen:
1756
1757			1. Ich ging nicht nur in eine klasse, nein, ich ging auf die ganze Schule.
1758
1759			Die Menschen die sich auf der Schule befinden, sind in keinem Falle
1760			unschuldig! Niemand ist das! In deren Köpfen läuft das selbe Programm
1761			welches auch bei den früheren Jahrgängen lief! Ich bin der Virus der
1762			diese Programme zerstören will, es ist völlig irrelewand wo ich da
1763			anfange.
1764
1765			2. Ein Grossteil meiner Rache wird sich auf das Lehrpersonal richten,
1766			denn das sind Menschen die gegen meinen Willen in mein Leben eingegriffen
1767			haben, und geholfen haben mich dahin zu stellen, wo ich jetzt stehe; Auf
1768			dem Schlachtfeld! Diese Lehrer befinden sich so gut wie alle noch auf
1769			dieser verdammten schule!
1770
1771			Das Leben wie es heute täglich stattfindet ist wohl das armseeligste was
1772			die Welt zu bieten hat!
1773
1774			S.A.A.R.T. - Schule, Ausbildung, Arbeit, Rente, Tod
1775
1776			Das ist der Lebenslauf eines "normalen" Menschen heutzutage. Aber
1777			was ist eigentlich normal? Als normal wird das bezeichnet, was von der
1778			Gesellschaft erwartet wird. Somit werden heutzutage Punks, Penner,
1779			Mörder, Gothics, Schwule usw. als unnormal bezeichnet, weil sie den
1780			allgemeinen Vorstellungen der Gesellschaft nicht gerecht werden, können
1781			oder wollen. Ich scheiss auf euch! Jeder hat frei zu sein! Gebt jedem
1782			eine Waffe und die Probleme unter den Menschen lösen sich ohne jedliche
1783			Einmischung Dritter. Wenn jemand stirbt, dann ist er halt tot. Und? Der
1784			Tod gehört zum Leben! Kommen die Angehörigen mit dem Verlust nicht klar,
1785			können sie Selbstmord begehen, niemand hindert sie daran!
1786
1787			S.A.A.R.T. beginnt mit dem 6. Lebensjahr hier in Deutschland, mit der
1788			Einschulung.
1789
1790			Das Kind begibt sich auf seine perönliche Sozialisationsstrecke, und
1791			wird in den darauffolgenden Jahren gezwungen sich der Allgemeinheit, der
1792			Mehrheit anzupassen. Lehnt es dies ab, schalten sich Lehrer, Eltern,
1793			und nicht zuletzt die Polizei ein. Schulpflicht ist die Schönrede von
1794			Schulzwang, denn man wird ja gezwungen zur Schule zu gehen. Wer gezwungen
1795			wird, verliert ein Stück seiner Freiheit. Man wird gezwungen Steuern zu
1796			zahlen, man wird gezwungen Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungen einzuhalten, man
1797			wird gezwungen dies zu tun, man wird gewzungen das zu tun. Ergo: Keine
1798			Freiheit! Und sowas nennt man dann Volksherrschaft. Wenn das Volk hier
1799			herrschen würde, hiesse es Anarchie!
1800
1801			WERDET ENDLICH WACH - GEHT AUF DIE STRASSE - DAS HAT IN DEUTSCHLAND
1802			SCHONMAL FUNKTIONIERT!
1803
1804			Nach meiner Tat werden wieder irgendwelche fetten Politiker dumme
1805			Sprüche klopfen wie "Wir halten nun alle zusammen" oder "Wir
1806			müssen gemeinsam versuchen dies durchzustehen". Doch das machen
1807			sie nur um Aufmerksmakeit zu bekommen, um sich selbst als die Lösung
1808			zu präsentieren. Auf der GSS war es genauso... niemals lässt
1809			sich dieses fette Stück Scheisse von Rektorin blicken, aber wenn
1810			Theater-aufführungen sind, dann steht sie als erste mit einem breiten
1811			Grinsen auf der Bühne und präsentiert sich der Masse!
1812
1813			Nazis, HipHoper, Türken, Staat, Staatsdiener, Gläubige... einfach alle
1814			sind zum kotzen und müssen vernichtet werden! (Den begriff "Türken"
1815			benutze ich für alle HipHopMuchels und Kleingangster; Sie kommen nach
1816			Deutschland weil die Bedingungen bei ihnen zu hause zu schlecht sind,
1817			weil Krieg ist... und dann kommen Sie nach Deutschland, dem Sozialamt der
1818			Welt, und lassne hier die Sau raus. Sie sollten alle vergast werden! Keine
1819			Juden, keine Neger, keine Holländer, aber Muchels! ICH BIN KEIN SCHEISS
1820			NAZI) Ich hasse euch und eure Art! Ihr müsst alle sterben!
1821
1822			Seit meinem 6. Lebensjahr wurde ich von euch allen verarscht! Nun müsst
1823			ihr dafür bezahlen!
1824
1825			Weil ich weiss das die Fascholizei meine Videos, Schulhefte, Tagebücher,
1826			einfach alles, nicht veröffentlichen will, habe ich das selbst in die
1827			Hand genommen.
1828
1829			Als letztes möchte ich den Menschen die mir was bedeuten, oder die jemals
1830			gut zu mir waren, danken, und mich für all dies Entschuldigen!
1831
1832			Ich bin weg...
1833			%
1834			01:14 <scortch> its an NP hard for computers
1835			01:14 <elmex> no, it's NP hard for anyone
1836			%
1837	root	1.432	19:18 <elmex> schmorp: eben anner kasse stand jemadn hinter mir und faselte mit seinen
1838			kumpels zum thema bill gates: "... er ist ja mein vorbild, nicht jetzt
1839			wegen dem geld, sondern wegen dem charakterlichen und so ... der hat ja
1840			die haelfte seines vermoegens gespendet.... und ne jacht hat der auch...
1841	root	1.431	abe was fuer eine... voll fettes schiff...'
1842			19:19 <schmorp> rofl
1843			19:19 <schmorp> aber nicht wegem dme geld
1844			19:19 <elmex> der studiert glaub ich informatik :)
1845			19:19 <elmex> das is die neue generation
1846			19:19 <elmex> 'generation gates'
1847			19:19 <schmorp> die frage schiene mcirosoft oder schiene java erübrigt sich
1848			%
1849			http://www.bissantz.de/pub/Luegen_mit_Statistiken.pdf
1850			%
1851			[http://use.perl.org/~luqui/journal/]
1852			[The reason I left Perl 6]
1853
1854			The virtue of social art was extinguished when the solutions that I had
1855			worked for weeks on and I considered truly beautiful lost to syntax
1856			bloat and "DWIM tables". It bascially came down to the rest of the team
1857			considering Perl much more pragmatically than I did, which may end up
1858			better for the end result anyway—it is hard to tell.
1859			%
1860			http://www.ta-sa.org/files/sc/perl6_timeline_updated.png
1861			%
1862			00:20 <schmorp> Mikachu: xjdic lists ぶっかける as to dash (slosh) water (or other liquid)onapersonorinaperson'sface
1863			00:21 <Mikachu> yeah, that made me laugh a bit
1864			00:21 <Mikachu> "or other liquid, know what i mean, nudge nudge"
1865			%
1866			[very funny read]
1867			Hack-a-Bike
1868			USK@vZ8crASNqmw9APiGDtTxV0YvspklNnOTmQin0ZsPLdk,bnUaihNj6Ww8CFvBQo4UwH0pYiS0hOyeKIxvO0tZdJk,AQABAAE/hack-a-bike/1/index_de.html
1869			%
1870			Now that habeas corpus and other basic rights, including the right not to
1871			be tortured while interrogated, have now been deemed unnecessary, more
1872			Americans than ever have been thinking of getting out the door while they
1873			still can.
1874
1875			http://www.boingboing.net/2006/10/23/getting_out_your_gui.html
1876			%
1877	root	1.432	23:52 <elmex> Zaehlen sie die wichtigsten Berufsfelder der IT-Branche auf:
1878			Java-code-affe, Bussiness-scheisse-laber-affe, Windows-admin,
1879	root	1.431	Windows-user, echter Admin und echter Programmierer.
1880			%
1881			[without words]
1882			http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/1030/104_print.html
1883			%
1884			[http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030217/cockburn]
1885			We're in the twilit world of the "thought crime." Have a photo of a kid in
1886			a bath on your hard drive, and the prosecutor says you were looking at it
1887			with lust in your heart, and that is tantamount to sexually molesting an
1888			actual kid in an actual bath.
1889			%
1890			Don't put stock in the Constitution, anymore. It IS just a piece of paper,
1891			today (actually, since Oct 17th). The Military Commissions Act of 2006
1892			makes the Constitution null and void. You (regardless of your citizenship)
1893			may be held with no charges, for no reason, for an indefinite time, with
1894			absolutely no judicial oversight. It is completely legal for the
1895			government to pick you up and for you to disappear with no one ever knowing
1896			what happened to you.
1897			%
1898	root	1.432	--
1899	root	1.431	Markus Schulz
1900
1901			A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion
1902			Q: Why is top posting bad?
1903			%
1904			On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 02:05:19AM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
1905	root	1.432	> 1. It's not that I don't want to, but I _can't_ implement kprobes and not
1906			> due to lack of skills, but lack of resources. (There is a subtle but
1907	root	1.431	> important difference.)
1908
1909			Um, given the amount of time you've spent trying to pursuade us why
1910			you can't implement kprobes for m68k, perhaps you would have
1911			implemented it already if you had buckled down and started coding
1912			instead of flaming about why everyone else should bend over backwards
1913			just because you don't have time for your arch? :-)
1914
1915			- Ted
1916			%
1917			[http://richarddawkins.net/mainPage.php?bodyPage=article_body.php&id=183]
1918			"I want to see young people who are as committed to the cause of Jesus
1919			Christ as the young people are to the cause of Islam. I want to see them
1920			as radically laying down their lives for the gospel as they are over in
1921			Pakistan and Israel and Palestine and all those different places... Excuse
1922			me, but we have the truth!"
1923			%
1924			[Meijin Title Game #3, Takao Shinji vs. Cho U]
1925			(22) archimed [18k?]: actually, what are considered to be their respective strengths?
1926			(22) zephi [ 7k+]: takao's strength is kickin cho u's butt
1927			(22) zephi [ 7k+]: cho u's a big fighter
1928			%
1929			[nethack extinctionist faq]
1930			The first "extinctionist" ascension on r.g.r.n. (at least from what I can
1931			tell) seems to have been by Matthew Bourland in 2000, who although he
1932			didn't actually kill everything, certainly genocided all (at the time) 256
1933			monster types that were genocidable. Then, after that he extincted all
1934			other randomly generated monsters. On the other hand, having 120 kills
1935			in every category is perhaps more noteworthy (or foolhardy?) than simply
1936			genociding every monster.
1937
1938			I'd recommend a dose of both. Kill them until they're dead and then
1939			genocide them for good measure!
1940			%%
1941			[nethack instadeath faq]
1942
1943			* eating Death, Famine, Pestilence, Medusa, or green slime corpses
1944
1945			Well let's face it, this is just plain stupid. So don't do it!
1946			%
1947			17:57 <zaphod> Murch: Stroemungslehre ist geil
1948			17:57 <Murch> zaphod: hm?
1949	root	1.432	17:57 <zaphod> Murch: "Diese Gleichungen sind, zumindest aus der Sicht eines
1950	root	1.431	Ingenieurs, als exakt anzusehen."
1951			17:58 <Murch> lol
1952			%
1953			22:51 -cfbot:#cf- [Wrathmagic] oh i love killing pirates yes i do i love stabbing them through and through
1954			%
1955			[Brazil and Bush’s War on Terror]
1956			http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/blumen3.html
1957			%
1958			http://trac.syr.edu/tracreports/terrorism/169/
1959			%
1960			http://web3.0log.org/2006/09/01/new-secure-browser-browzar-is-fake-and-full-of-adware/
1961
1962			There was time when badware developers tried to install ad pages as homepage
1963			or searchpage in user’s IE by any possible means. Nowadays users install
1964			adware voluntarily and write news about it. True web2.0 style!
1965			%
1966			http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/05/universal_time_zone.html
1967
1968			At the United Nations today President George W. Bush
1969			announced a proposal to unify all the world's time zones
1970			into a single Universal Time Zone (UTZ), formerly known as
1971			the Eastern Time Zone.
1972			[...]
1973			Britain immediately supported the US plan. "If it means
1974			sleeping in broad daylight then we'll stick with our
1975			allies," said Tony Blair, "Of course there's never broad
1976			daylight in the UK, so it's not much of an issue."
1977			%
1978			Wow, and this in security-relevant code... (taken from libc's ld.so)
1979
1980			_dl_profile_output
1981			= &"/var/tmp\0/var/profile"[__libc_enable_secure ? 9 : 0];
1982			%
1983			[CRYPTO-GRAM]
1984			By January 1st, 2007, everyone crossing the border between the U.S. and Canada is supposed to have
1985			a passport. This is because of terrorism, of course. But now we learn that ferries and private
1986			watercraft will be exempt. One of two things is true. Either passports are required for
1987			security, in which case we should interfere with ferries. Or they're for show, in which case we
1988			can just do what's convenient. Or maybe we just know that terrorists never take ferries. I get
1989			that security is a trade-off, but this is kind of silly.
1990
1991			http://tinyurl.com/zl5af
1992			%
1993			[famous last words]
1994			11:22 <kaizoku> what do you mean by plonk?
1995			%
1996			What make a provider a tier 2, versus a tier 1 provider...
1997
1998			"We are a tier 1 provider" = "I am a salesperson."
1999
2000			"They are a tier 2 provider." = "I am a salesperson and they are our competitor".
2001
2002			--
2003			Jay Hennigan
2004			%
2005			http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/17_Mistakes_Microsoft_Made_in_the_Xbox_Security_System
2006			%
2007			[latimes story about a man returning to the us from iraq and being
2008			held for selling copyrighted images on t-shirts by the department
2009			of homeland security]
2010			http://tinyurl.com/ourlr
2011			%
2012			"Some other types of programs won't make the transition to Windows x64
2013	root	1.432	seamlessly, either. Microsoft ships WinXP x64 with two versions of
2014	root	1.431	Internet Explorer, a 32-bit version and a 64-bit version. The 32-bit
2015			version is the OS default because nearly all ActiveX controls and the like
2016			are 32-bit code, and where would we be if we couldn't execute the full
2017			range of spyware available to us?"
2018
2019			[http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/64-bits/index.x?pg=1]
2020			%
2021			[http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/kglobalaccel__x11_8cpp-source.html]
2022			00279 if( pEvent->xkey.state & KKeyServer::modXNumLock() ) {
2023			00280 // TODO: what's the xor operator in c++?
2024			%
2025	root	1.432	<Mikachu> give a man a fix and he's running urxvt one day, teach a man
2026	root	1.431	to fix and he will run urxvt all his life
2027			%
2028			The NSA Phone Call Database: The European Perspective
2029			http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2006/05/the_nsa_phone_c.html
2030			%
2031			Oh, I agree completely. No game has ever let me down the way Oblivoin
2032			did. I"m still hoping mods and expansions will fix it but there's no way
2033			I'm pre-ordering the next one. I'm afraid it really will be a first person
2034			shooter.
2035
2036			The really scary thing is that it's not just video games. Book sales were
2037			done last year because people just don't read as much anymore. I'm having
2038			to dumb down my newspaper editorials because people used to want analysis
2039			they could use to make their own opinions, now they seem to just want
2040			opinions they can quote without having to think for themselves. McDonalds
2041			puts pictures of the food on the cash register instead of numbers.
2042
2043			Face it. The human race is devolving. In 500 years the best selling RPG
2044			in the universe will be a console game where you roleplay an ape named
2045			Fred, swing on vines and throw your own excrement. You'll have one stat,
2046			apeness. It wiill effect everything you do in a subtle, yet unexplained
2047			way.
2048
2049			And Bethesda fan boys will be screaming "TES 504: Monkeypoo good. You go
2050			bak cave, no good rpger. Two stats bad. Made feces throw too hard. Shiney
2051			key graphic good. Make me happy."
2052
2053			shrugs But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
2054			%
2055			> So Hitler was a pacifist because he let other people kill for him? Most
2056			> D&D computer games require you to kill people (not simply knock them
2057			> out). Also just because you don't kill doesn't make you a pacifist (see
2058			> above comment about Hitler).
2059
2060			I invoke the European rule: In any given argument, the first side to
2061			mention Hitler loses.
2062			%
2063			[siggraph '99 course 12]
2064			Unfortunately, including <windows.h> has the unfortunate side effect of
2065			introducing literally thousands of macros and type declarations into
2066			your compilation environment. This undesirable "name space pollution"
2067			can sometimes affect source code portability by conflicting with your
2068			program's own macros and types. This can particularly be a problem for
2069			UNIX programmers that are not familiar with all the junk that comes with
2070			including <windows.h>.
2071			[...]
2072			Win32's requirement that you use wglGetProcAddress is a real drag,
2073			but if you do everything right, using OpenGL extensions works and
2074			gives you access to amazing new OpenGL features. And let's be honest;
2075			wglGet- ProcAddress is hardly the only annoying and awkward thing about
2076			programming with the Win32 API. Still, by using the C preprocessor and
2077			coding carefully, you actually can write OpenGL programs that use OpenGL
2078			extensions and compile from the same source code for both UNIX and Win32
2079			environments.
2080			%
2081			http://neil.franklin.ch/Usenet/alt.folklore.computers/19981207_Computers_are_so_STY00PID
2082			%
2083			[http://www.voynich.net/Kryptos]
2084			"It's easier to rig an electronic voting machine than a Las Vegas slot machine"
2085			%
2086			[CRYPTO-GRAM 2006-03-15]
2087			[...] There are all sorts of interests vying for control of your
2088			computer. There are media companies that want to control what you can
2089			do with the music and videos they sell you. There are companies that
2090			use software as a conduit to collect marketing information, deliver
2091			advertising or do whatever it is their real owners require. And there are
2092			software companies that are trying to make money by pleasing not only
2093			their customers, but other companies they ally themselves with. All these
2094			companies want to own your computer.
2095
2096			Some examples:
2097
2098			1. Entertainment software: In October 2005, it emerged that Sony had
2099			distributed a rootkit with several music CDs -- the same kind of
2100			software that crackers use to own people's computers. This rootkit
2101			secretly installed itself when the music CD was played on a computer.
2102			Its purpose was to prevent people from doing things with the music that
2103			Sony didn't approve of: It was a DRM system. If the exact same piece of
2104			software had been installed secretly by a hacker, this would have been
2105			an illegal act. But Sony believed that it had legitimate reasons for
2106			wanting to own its customers' machines.
2107	root	1.432
2108	root	1.431	2. Antivirus: You might have expected your antivirus software to detect
2109			Sony's rootkit. After all, that's why you bought it. But initially, the
2110			security programs sold by Symantec and others did not detect it,
2111			because Sony had asked them not to. You might have thought that the
2112			software you bought was working for you, but you would have been wrong.
2113
2114			3. Internet services: Hotmail allows you to blacklist certain e-mail
2115			addresses, so that mail from them automatically goes into your spam
2116			trap. Have you ever tried blocking all that incessant marketing e-mail
2117			from Microsoft? You can't.
2118
2119			4. Application software: Internet Explorer users might have expected
2120			the program to incorporate easy-to-use cookie handling and pop-up
2121			blockers. After all, other browsers do, and users have found them
2122			useful in defending against Internet annoyances. But Microsoft isn't
2123			just selling software to you; it sells Internet advertising as well. It
2124			isn't in the company's best interest to offer users features that would
2125			adversely affect its business partners.
2126
2127			5. Spyware: Spyware is nothing but someone else trying to own your
2128			computer. These programs eavesdrop on your behavior and report back to
2129			their real owners -- sometimes without your knowledge or consent --
2130			about your behavior.
2131
2132			6. Update: Automatic update features are another way software companies
2133			try to own your computer. While they can be useful for improving
2134			security, they also require you to trust your software vendor not to
2135			disable your computer for nonpayment, breach of contract or other
2136			presumed infractions.
2137
2138			Adware, software-as-a-service and Google Desktop search are all
2139			examples of some other company trying to own your computer. And Trusted
2140			Computing will only make the problem worse.
2141
2142			There is an inherent insecurity to technologies that try to own
2143			people's computers: They allow individuals other than the computers'
2144			legitimate owners to enforce policy on those machines. These systems
2145			invite attackers to assume the role of the third party and turn a
2146			user's device against him.
2147			[...]
2148			You can fight back against this trend by only using software that
2149			respects your boundaries. Boycott companies that don't honestly serve
2150			their customers, that don't disclose their alliances, that treat users
2151			like marketing assets. Use open-source software -- software created and
2152			owned by users, with no hidden agendas, no secret alliances and no
2153			back-room marketing deals.
2154			%
2155			[John Carmack on Java]
2156			Write-once-run-anywhere. Ha. Hahahahaha. We are only testing on four
2157			platforms right now, and not a single pair has the exact same quirks. All
2158			the commercial games are tweaked and compiled individually for each
2159			(often 100+) platform. Portability is not a justification for the awful
2160			performance.
2161			%
2162			[http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,415577,00.html]
2163
2164			"Wenn ich höre, dass die Telekom mit Microsoft kooperiert, da wird mir
2165			ganz anders", sagte Herbert Tillmann, der Vorsitzende der Produktions-
2166			und Technikkommission von ARD und ZDF dem Blatt. Man bevorzuge offene
2167			Standards und wolle sich der Plattform von Microsoft nicht ausliefern.
2168			%
2169			http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2006/05/german_cannibal.html
2170			%
2171			"Ok, this is complete off topic but WHY do so many Americans think that
2172			once your cross the 49th parellel into Canada that they are going out into
2173			a technology- and civilization-free zone???"
2174			http://p203.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm31
2175			%
2176			http://funroll-loops.org/
2177			%
2178			[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL]
2179			When Direct3D was released in 1995, Microsoft, SGI, and Hewlett-Packard
2180			initiated the Fahrenheit project, which was a joint effort with the
2181			goal of unifying the OpenGL and Direct3D interfaces - and again, adding
2182			a scene-graph API. It initially showed some promise of bringing order
2183			to the world of interactive 3D computer graphics APIs, but on account
2184			of financial constraints at SGI and general lack of industry support
2185			it was abandoned. The engineers involved at SGI held a beach party in
2186			celebration - complete with bonfires on which they burned piles of
2187			Fahrenheit documentation.
2188			%
2189			[Whenever I try to use svn, it fails me. Sure I modified files, but whats
2190			the point of a RCS system that can't cope with that? Besides, I am 100%
2191			sure its much slower than CVS]
2192			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
2193			svn: Won't delete locally modified directory '.'
2194			svn: Left locally modified or unversioned files
2195	root	1.432	[Exit 1]
2196	root	1.431	cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
2197			svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
2198	root	1.432	[Exit 1]
2199	root	1.431	cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn diff
2200			svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
2201	root	1.432	[Exit 1]
2202	root	1.431	[Great, my local fixes are lost now, too. Whoever let this horror loose on
2203			humanity deserves to be shot or something like that]
2204			%
2205	root	1.430	[http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431.12]
2206
2207			... I'm evaluating a bunch of J2EE portlet-enabled JSR-compliant MVC
2208			role-based CMS web service application container frameworks. ...
2209	root	1.431	%
2210	root	1.429	Subject: RE: Question about Leap Second Features
2211
2212			> Is there any implementation for this information on Microsoft operating
2213			> systems ?
2214
2215			Any Microsoft operating system that is accurate down to the second can
2216			probably be hand-picked from Bill Gates' garage ... ;-)
2217
2218			Jesper
2219			%
2220	root	1.428	[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ballmer]
2221
2222			"As far as I can tell, the phrase 'I. Love. This. Company.
2223			YEEEAAAAAAAAARARRRRARAGH!' has FIVE words, not four."
2224
2225	root	1.432	~ Oscar Wilde on Steve Ballmer having four words for you.
2226	root	1.429	%
2227	root	1.427	http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/kafkaesque.html
2228			%
2229	root	1.426	[http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136541]
2230
2231			You've doubled the work. People don't like that. People REALLY don't
2232			like that. The number of duplicate bugs filed against the chooser is
2233			evidence for this. Furthermore, click depth is a standard metric for
2234			measuring HCI usability, and this dialog has moved in the absolute wrong
2235			direction. People won't be satisfied until they get the entry box back
2236			into the dialog. You can grind your teeth and pull your hair all you want,
2237			but that's the truth.
2238			%
2239	root	1.424	[de.alt.ufo]
2240
2241			Braun Ludwig <Wick84@gmx.de> wrote:
2242
2243	root	1.432	> 1. Ufos sind für mich Flugobjekte des US Militärs mit einen neuartigen
2244			> Atrieb, der mit einen Motorgenerator von ca 100000 Volt und einer
2245			> Stromstärke von ca 2 mA, einer elektronischen Steuereinheit und einer
2246			> Antriebseinheit auf Kondensator Basis betrieben wird. Zur Erklärung des
2247	root	1.424
2248			Aaha! Naja, die Elektrogravitation ist wirklich seit langem bekannt. Damit aber
2249	root	1.425	einen Antrieb zu realisieren halte ich für weniger wahrscheinlich. So abstrakt
2250			ist diese Funktion nicht und es wären schon mehr als ein Mensch dahinter
2251	root	1.424	gekommen. Ich sicher auch.
2252
2253			Allerdings schreibst Du hier von einem Generator. Es stellt sich die Frage
2254			was genau man mit 2 mA erzeugen will. Jeder Paralyzer schafft das mit
2255	root	1.425	der Hälfte der Spannung auch. Ich habe aber noch kein Opfer schweben
2256	root	1.424	gesehen. Im Gegenteil - die bewegen sich eigentlich immer ziemlich schnell
2257			in Richtung Boden.
2258
2259			[...]
2260
2261	root	1.432	> Dieser Ufo Flugzeug Typ wird in erster Linie als Spionage und
2262	root	1.425	> Aufklärungsflugobject eingesetzt.
2263	root	1.424
2264			Verstehe. Was ist in Afrika so interessant? Bekanntlich gibt oder gab es
2265	root	1.425	da bisher die überwiegenden Sichtungen. Was will z.B. der Ami von den
2266	root	1.424	Eingeborenen erfahren? Wie man richtig Reis oder Getreide kocht?
2267
2268			[...]
2269
2270			> 2. ausserirdische Ufo Flugobjekte.
2271	root	1.432	> Es gibt maximal 1 oder 2 oder drei ausserirdische Flugzeug
2272	root	1.425	> Beobachtungen, die tatsächlich wahr sind.
2273	root	1.424
2274			Nur drei? Das muss ich mir merken, damit ich das nicht vergesse. Welche
2275	root	1.425	mögen das Deiner Meinung nach wohl gewesen sein? Das ist ja noch
2276			schlimmer als Cenap, die von etwa 100.000 Fällen 1% erforscht haben,
2277			die wiederum schon im Vorfeld als 'normal' geklärt waren. Mit dieser
2278	root	1.424	Meinung solltest Du zu WW gehen und dich vorstellen. Der nimmmt Dich
2279			sofort.
2280			%
2281	root	1.423	[http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/Tech/connect4.htm]
2282			By the way, decryption can be performed easily in your editor with syntax
2283			like !!tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M (Sorry if you had the misfortune to buy your
2284			software from Microsoft.)
2285	root	1.424	%
2286	root	1.422	http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/
2287	root	1.424	%
2288	root	1.421	> BTW I have 2 English words for you, FUCK YOU
2289
2290			Why, that's a rather intimate proposal. I never realised you were
2291			gay. While I would like to offer the hand of friendship, I am
2292			afraid that the thought of sex with a grown man doesn't really do
2293			much for me so I shall have to decline with a modicum of regret.
2294	root	1.424	%
2295	root	1.420	http://www.ta-sa.org/files/java_godkk.jpg
2296	root	1.419	http://www.chunder.com/carrots/javasux.html
2297	root	1.424	%
2298	root	1.418	Subject: Re: Docket No. 2005-22114
2299			From: Rodrigo Severo
2300			Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:04:33 -0200
2301			To: tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov
2302
2303			On 1/23/06, Paul Eggert wrote:
2304
2305			"David Braverman" <david@inner-drive.com> writes:
2306			It is a bit ironic that the US is less efficient than Brazil in fixing
2307			obviously-broken regulations like this.
2308
2309			I'm sorry but I have to ask: where is the irony in this? I hope the answer
2310			isn't obvious to people from US and I'm not seeing it just because I'm
2311			brazilian ;)
2312			Rodrigo Severo
2313	root	1.424	%
2314	root	1.431	[Frankly, I'd just like to know what GNOME did wrong to deserve this :]
2315	root	1.417
2316			http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/faq.html#1.13
2317	root	1.424	%
2318	root	1.416	[Another entry in the series "make this a blog":]
2319
2320			I wanted to see it for myself, and directed my browser to http://www.mpaa.org/.
2321
2322			Got "Bad Request (Invalid Header Name)".
2323
2324			Well.. some investigation showed that it didn't like the headers added by
2325			squid (in mostly default debian config).
2326
2327			sigh
2328	root	1.424	%
2329	root	1.415	A LIBERAL DECALOGUE
2330			By Bertrand Russell
2331
2332			Perhaps the essence of the Liberal outlook could be summed up in a new
2333			decalogue, not intended to replace the old one but only to supplement
2334			it. The Ten Commandments that, as a teacher, I should wish to promulgate,
2335			might be set forth as follows:
2336
2337			1. Do not feel absolutely certain of anything.
2338
2339			2. Do not think it worth while to proceed by concealing evidence, for the
2340			evidence is sure to come to light.
2341
2342			3. Never try to discourage thinking for you are sure to succeed.
2343
2344			4. When you meet with opposition, even if it should be from your husband
2345			or your children, endeavor to overcome it by argument and not by
2346			authority, for a victory dependent upon authority is unreal and illusory.
2347
2348			5. Have no respect for the authority of others, for there are always
2349			contrary authorities to be found.
2350
2351			6. Do not use power to suppress opinions you think pernicious, for if you
2352			do the opinions will suppress you.
2353
2354			7. Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted
2355			was once eccentric.
2356
2357			8. Find more pleasure in intelligent dissent that in passive agreement,
2358			for, if you value intelligence as you should, the former implies a deeper
2359			agreement than the latter.
2360
2361			9. Be scrupulously truthful, even if the truth is inconvenient, for it is
2362			more inconvenient when you try to conceal it.
2363
2364			10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool's
2365			paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness."
2366
2367			"A Liberal Decalogue" is from The Autobiography of Bertrand Russell,
2368			Vol. 3: 1944-1969, pp. 71-2.
2369	root	1.424	%
2370	root	1.413	[http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/12/09/502014.aspx]
2371	root	1.412	John Hoy, President of the DVD Copy Control Association, made
2372			the following statement to the Library of Congress in its 2003
2373			Anticircumvention rulemaking proceedings:
2374
2375			"Furthermore, if a consumer in the United States desires to view a DVD disc
2376			that has been region coded only for Europe, then that consumer is free to
2377			purchase a DVD player (either hardware or software) that is coded to play
2378			European DVDs. No legal restrictions apply-either through the CSS license
2379			or otherwise-to the importation and use of non-U.S. region players in the
2380			United States."
2381	root	1.413	---
2382			It must really suck to live in a nation where competition is actually
2383			outlawed - you have to feel sorry for all those people oppressed by
2384			communists and socialists. Oh, wait.... ;)
2385	root	1.414	---
2386			"You ain't seen nothin' yet! I heard that the new HD-DVDs or Blue-ray
2387			discs (whichever win eventually) will be street-encoded. You have to
2388			quote your street name while buying DVDs and they won't work in the next
2389			street. The hidden reason for this is that MPAA wants to charge upwards of
2390			$1000 per DVD for those living in million dollar mansions."
2391
2392			This isn't far from the truth. Blu-ray disks for PlayStation3 will only
2393			play in ONE player on earth. MS will eventually make up something similar.
2394	root	1.424	%
2395	root	1.411	[gnome-clock and my radio-clock failed miserably, /bin/date and Linux worked:]
2396			Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC
2397	root	1.424	%
2398	root	1.410	[http://www.slate.com/id/2133993/]
2399
2400			Vulnerabilities deemed "critical" have forced the company to release an
2401			almost unending stream of patches and fixes [...]
2402
2403			Sure, it might be nice to connect your computer and your television
2404			set. But is it worth it to give hackers access to your television?
2405
2406			Even if we don't use them, we suffer from them.
2407
2408			[...] a former senior security analyst for the House of Representatives,
2409			believes that Microsoft is a threat to national security.
2410	root	1.424	%
2411	root	1.409	[Copyright History - US view]
2412			http://www.culturaleconomics.atfreeweb.com/cpu.htm
2413	root	1.424	%
2414	root	1.408	[I just re-read the unix haters hadnbook]
2415			X has had its share of $5,000 toilet seats -- like Sun's Open Look clock
2416			tool, which gobbles up 1.4 megabytes of real memory! If you sacrificed all
2417			the RAM from 22 Commodore 64s to clock tool, it still wouldn't have enough
2418			to tell you the time. Even the vanilla X11R4 "xclock" utility consumed
2419			656K to run. And X's memory usage is increasing.
2420	root	1.424	%
2421	root	1.406	[Got to remember this way of arguing, it's great if it works:]
2422
2423			"Most people, I think, don’t even know what a rootkit is, so why should
2424			they care about it?"
2425			-- Thomas Hesse, Sony BMG’s Global Digital Business President.
2426	root	1.407
2427			[see also http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004145.php]
2428	root	1.424	%
2429	root	1.405	Let me repeat again: Formal axiomatic systems are a failure!
2430			-- Gregory Chaitin
2431	root	1.424	%
2432	root	1.432	13:49 <RayTracer> pixelsize=14 ist so groß wie 8 beim xchat wenn ich den
2433	root	1.404	gnome-settings-daemon nicht lade
2434			13:50 <schmorp> autsch, was hat das mit dem gnome-settings-daemon zu tun? ist ja hart!
2435			[...]
2436	root	1.432	13:51 <RayTracer> wenn ich den nicht lade sind alle gtk-programme mit großem Font,
2437			wenn ich ihn lade werden sie klein gemacht und wenn ich ihn töte ist
2438	root	1.404	wieder alles groß
2439	root	1.424	%
2440	root	1.403	[man perlsub]
2441			That prints "unphooey". (Yes, there are still unresolved issues
2442			having to do with visibility of @_. I’m ignoring that question
2443			for the moment. (But note that if we make @_ lexically scoped,
2444			those anonymous subroutines can act like closures... (Gee, is this
2445			sounding a little Lispish? (Never mind.))))
2446	root	1.424	%
2447	root	1.402	[glibc's bits/socket.h]
2448
2449			if ((size_t) __cmsg->cmsg_len < sizeof (struct cmsghdr))
2450	root	1.432	/* The kernel header does this so there may be a reason. */
2451			return 0;
2452	root	1.424	%
2453	root	1.400	http://www.wicked-vision.com/zensur/zensur/zensur_bei_filmen.html
2454	root	1.401
2455			> Die Argumente liefen insbesondere darauf hinaus, dass es sich bei den
2456			> Filmen, auf die in Anspielungen verwiesen wird, um Filme handelt, die
2457			> entweder von der FSK gekennzeichnet wurden mit "nicht freigegeben
2458			> unter 18 Jahren", die von der Bundesprüfstelle indiziert wurden oder
2459			> die sogar durch entsprechende Beschlüsse bundesweit beschlagnahmt
2460			> wurden, also alles Filme, die Kindern und Jugendlichen aufgrund der
2461			> Gesetze zum Jugendschutz von vornherein nicht zugänglich sind. Kindern
2462			> und Jugendlichen wird daher die Persiflage auf diese Filme nicht
2463			> transparent.
2464
2465			Das muß man sich mal auf der Zunge zergehen lassen: Da wird ein Film,
2466			der ab 18 Jahren freigegeben ist, indiziert, weil Kinder und Jugendliche
2467			die parodistischen Anspielungen nicht verstehen könnten. Mit solchen
2468			Begründungen beraubt sich die BPjS letztlich ihrer Glaubwürdigkeit.
2469	root	1.424	%
2470	root	1.399	Großmanns Gesetz: Komplexe Probleme haben einfache, leichtverständliche,
2471			aber falsche Lösungen.
2472	root	1.424	%
2473	root	1.398	A project done in Java will cost 5 times as much, take twice as long,
2474			and be harder to maintain than a project done in a scripting language such
2475			as PHP or Perl. [http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/09/20#a1762 Java
2476			is the SUV of programming tools] Philip Greenspun
2477	root	1.424	%
2478	root	1.397	On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Till Kamppeter wrote:
2479			>
2480			> Frederic told that the options from the PPD file are intentionally mot
2481			> listed in the printing dialog, the usability team of GNOME was against
2482			> listing these options. They clutter the dialog and can be more confusing
2483			> than useful to the user.
2484
2485			I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE.
2486
2487			This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of
2488			Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will
2489			use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long
2490			since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do.
2491
2492			Please, just tell people to use KDE.
2493
2494			Linus
2495	root	1.424	%
2496	root	1.396	Move 80, Node 81
2497			theodore [22k?]: i hear 8 d can read the future
2498			setzer [?]: what about 9d
2499			theodore [22k?]: they control it
2500	root	1.424	%
2501	root	1.395	[Fuqid 1.6 FAQ]
2502			Wenn ich HTL auf 300 setze dann lade ich viel schneller runter, warum?
2503
2504	root	1.398	Weil du daran glaubst, das hat nur psychologische Gründe. HTL's grösser
2505	root	1.395	als das Nodelimit haben einfach keinen Einfluss. PUNKT!
2506			--
2507			Warum wurde Fuqid nicht in der geilen Sprache XX geschrieben?
2508
2509			Du sprichst nur eine Sprache? Bist du Amerikaner?
2510	root	1.424	%
2511	root	1.393	[Are people responsible for the company they work at?]
2512			I was at a party in New York City earlier this year, and a conversation went like this:
2513
2514			Person: What do you do?
2515			Me: I'm a computer programmer at Microsoft.
2516			Person: <viciously> I hate you.
2517
2518			If Miss Manners didn't say so explicitly, I suspect she would nevertheless
2519			agree that snarling "I hate you" to somebody on first introduction is not
2520			exactly getting off on the right foot.
2521	root	1.394
2522			[And this is how that Microsoft programmer reacts to bugs in Microsoft software]
2523			http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/10/17/481810.aspx
2524	root	1.424	%
2525	root	1.392	"The music and film industries are demanding that the European parliament
2526			extends the scope of proposed anti-terror laws to help them prosecute
2527			illegal downloaders."
2528
2529			Bill Thompson at the BBC has some pertinent commentary:
2530
2531			"If they cannot come up with a business model which allows them to make
2532			profits without criminalising their customers, trampling over our civil
2533			liberties or installing malware on our computers then they do not deserve
2534			to stay in business, and new ways for artists to reach the public will
2535			have to emerge."
2536
2537			http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4469886.stm
2538	root	1.424	%
2539	root	1.425	>Damit dürftest du der zweite Mensch sein, den ich kenne, der sich mit
2540	root	1.391	>einer so spartanischen Hardwareausstattung zufrieden gibt:) Ich selbst
2541
2542			Mein Arbeitsplatz ist eine HP 715/80 - also 80 MHz. Da drauf laeuft der vi
2543			immer noch genauso schnell wie vor zehn Jahren :)
2544
2545			Bye, Andy
2546	root	1.424	%
2547	root	1.398	[ka.uni.rz.stud, warum bestimmte zeichen in passwörtern verboten sind]
2548	root	1.425	>einem Passwort nicht zulässt, das kann ich nachvollziehen, aber wieso ein
2549	root	1.390	>Dollarzeichen, Leerzeichen, Klammeraffe, Doppelkreuz, Prozent, doppelte
2550	root	1.425	>Anführungszeichen, Paragraph und was es da noch so alles gibt? Und wieso nur
2551	root	1.390
2552			Dollarzeichen: DCE kann nicht damit umgehen.
2553			Leerzeichen: sind nur am Anfang und Ende eines PW verboten - es gibt
2554			System, die das wegstrippen :(
2555			Klammeraffe: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Kill-Zeichen (stammt
2556			halt noch aus der Zeit, als Fernschreiber als I/O-Geraete benutzt
2557			wurde, und ein Fernschreiber, der druckt, kann per Definition kein
2558			Backspace o.ae. haben - Tipp-Ex-Baender waren nicht eingebaut :)
2559			- und es gibt eben noch Systeme, die zum lokalen Login diese STTY-
2560			Settings benutzen. Seit wir die VT100-Terminals abgebaut haben,
2561			ist das fuer Studenten weniger relevant, unser BV behandelt aber
2562			alle Benutzer.
2563			Doppelkreuz: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Erase-Zeichen
2564			Prozent: Mift, das hab' ich mir nicht aufgeschrieben, geht aber auch in
2565			irgendeinem System nicht. Vielleicht sollte man es mal wieder
2566			probieren (bis es knallt)?
2567			Doppelte Anfuehrungszeichen: Wurden von Radius als Begrenzer benutzt. Ja,
2568			der Radius-Server funktionierte nur mit Klartext-Passwoertern :(
2569			Ja, funktionierte, Vergangenheitsform, er ist jetzt endlich tot :)
2570			Ja, damit kann ich die doppelten Anfuehrungszeichen freigeben :)
2571			Paragraph: ist kein ASCII-Zeichen. Das kann die lustigsten Probleme geben,
2572			insbesondere wenn verschiedene encodings benutzt werden - IMHO gibt
2573			es auch Implementierungen, die das 8. Bit wegschneiden...
2574	root	1.424	%
2575	root	1.389	[subversion is just plain broken. I just lost all my local modifications, right?]
2576
2577			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2578			svn: Working copy '.' locked
2579			svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2580			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn cleanup
2581			svn: 'programs/mythlcd' is not a working copy directory
2582			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2583			svn: Working copy '.' locked
2584			svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2585			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn help cleanup
2586			cleanup: Recursively clean up the working copy, removing locks, resuming
2587			unfinished operations, etc.
2588			usage: cleanup [PATH...]
2589
2590			Valid options:
2591			--diff3-cmd arg : use ARG as merge command
2592			--config-dir arg : read user configuration files from directory ARG
2593
2594			[Thanks for the details. Not.]
2595	root	1.424	%
2596	root	1.388	But there's an observation I can't help doing: it seems to me that the
2597			ratio of increase in the complexity of (some aspects of) the language _is_
2598			_much_ _bigger_ than that in the functionality such complexity is supposed
2599			to provide.
2600			- perl6-language - michele dondi
2601	root	1.424	%
2602	root	1.386	[From: perl6-language]
2603
2604			The fact that there's not alot of active p5p'ers on this list should
2605			alarm people more.
2606
2607			-Nate
2608
2609			[...]
2610
2611			My take on that is that it is because Perl 6 is not a new version of
2612			Perl 5. I still think "Perl" is a misleading name, and mostly hurts the
2613			image of the language that is created here.
2614
2615			Juerd
2616
2617			[...]
2618
2619			(Oh, and that perl6 will never be able to upgrade my scripts that use
2620			'format', but I'm aware of the plan to make that `obsolete' as in: the
2621			perl526 translator will dump core on those)
2622
2623	root	1.432	--
2624	root	1.386	H.Merijn Brand
2625	root	1.387	%
2626	root	1.385	Die Firma Microsoft warnte asiatische Regierungen am Donnerstag,
2627	root	1.388	dass diese patentrechtlich verklagt werden könnten, wenn sie das
2628	root	1.385	Betriebssystem Linux anstelle von Microsoft's Windows-Software einsetzen.
2629			Nachrichtenagentur Reuters (18. November 2004)
2630	root	1.387	%
2631	root	1.384	[Come on, "kidtalk"???]
2632			http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx
2633	root	1.387	%
2634	root	1.383	[Priceless :)]
2635			http://www.scottmccloud.com/comics/icst/icst-6/icst-6-full.html
2636	root	1.387	%
2637	root	1.382	[http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/15/1312216&from=rss]
2638			>> I hate it whenever Word tries to encourage me not to use passive.
2639			[...]
2640			> Okay then, translate "The window has been broken" into active voice.
2641			"Windows is broken."
2642	root	1.387	%
2643	root	1.381	[Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon on the perl6-language list:]
2644			Removing features simply because their implementation is inconvenient
2645			is not The Perl Way. If it were, Perl 6 would be Java With Sigils.
2646	root	1.387	%
2647	root	1.380	[Incidentally, the USoA is one of the two countries on earth that insist
2648			on being able to kill their children legally]
2649			http://www.post-gazette.com/breaking/20040329pornp6.asp
2650	root	1.387	%
2651	root	1.379	[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test]
2652			The Miller test is the United States Supreme Court's test for determining
2653			whether speech or expression can be labeled obscene [...]
2654	root	1.387	%
2655	root	1.377	[http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050923-5346.html]
2656			"They find the anti-pornography crowd disturbing because they believe
2657			that policing pornography violates fundamental rights. This has become
2658			the dominant view in our society: As long as what I do doesn't harm you
2659			personally, I have a right to do it. It's a silly view and a view rejected
2660			by law enforcement policies all over the country."
2661	root	1.378	--
2662			"What we really need is less government and more common sense. The Bush
2663			administration thinks it can win the war in iraq, the war on terror, the
2664			war on drugs, and the war on smut while establishing a lunar colony and
2665			rebuilding New Orleans, all without raising taxes. He really needs a
2666			reality check. I can't believe that with all of this crap going on, Tom
2667			DeLay has the balls to claim that the republican party has eliminated
2668			wasteful government spending."
2669	root	1.387	%
2670	root	1.376	[Attaching 72lbs to spam-reply-envelopes is legal. Do it!]
2671			http://www.vertical-visions.com/_temp/postagepaid/index2.html
2672	root	1.387	%
2673	root	1.375	[Charley Tart on Consensus Trance: <SLAP> <SLAP> Wake up!]
2674			http://www.cantrip.org/charles_tart.html
2675	root	1.387	%
2676	root	1.375	["It's such a moving story, it must be true"]
2677			http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=246277
2678	root	1.387	%
2679	root	1.374	[Pencil Carving]
2680			http://www.infofreako.com/jad/enpitsu-e.html
2681	root	1.387	%
2682	root	1.374	[Copyright]
2683	root	1.373	http://www.bromsun.com/practice/copyrights/flowchart.html
2684	root	1.387	%
2685	root	1.372	[Die Wirtschaft befreit die Menschen von der Arbeit]
2686			http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/stz/page/detail.php/949236
2687	root	1.387	%
2688	root	1.432	23:10 <mmead> schmorp: A federal appeals court ruled today that the president can indefinitely detain a U.S. citizen
2689			captured on U.S. soil in the absence of criminal charges, holding that such authority is vital to protect the
2690	root	1.371	nation from terrorist attacks.
2691	root	1.432	23:10 <mmead> A congressional resolution after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks "provided the President all powers
2692			necessary and appropriate to protect American citizens from terrorist attacks by those who attacked the United
2693	root	1.371	States on Sept. 11,'' the decision said.
2694	root	1.432	23:10 <mmead> The decision by a three-judge panel was written by Judge J. Michael Luttig, who sources have said is under
2695			consideration by President Bush for nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court.
2696	root	1.387	%
2697	root	1.370	[Looks extreme]
2698			http://www.counterpunch.org/
2699	root	1.387	%
2700	root	1.369	[Some glimpse of what happened in New Orleans]
2701			"As we approached the bridge, armed Gretna sheriffs formed a line across the
2702			foot of the bridge. Before we were close enough to speak, they began firing
2703			their weapons over our heads."
2704			http://www.livejournal.com/users/malbec/1052572.html
2705	root	1.387	%
2706	root	1.368	[Global Average Temperature vs. Number of Pirates]
2707			http://www.sheise.de/files/PirateGraph.jpg
2708	root	1.387	%
2709	root	1.367	[http://www.fefe.de/nowindows/]
2710			Many people using Windows don't care about their freedom. They do care
2711			about quality software and for that reason try to replace all the user
2712			space software from Microsoft with better free alternatives. This is the
2713			sole reason for the existance of cygwin.
2714	root	1.387	%
2715	root	1.366	[http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/trusted_computing/20031001_tc.php]
2716	root	1.387	%
2717	root	1.366	The TCG has resisted defining "owner" for purposes of their spec, despite
2718			several requests for clarification.
2719
2720			Think of it this way: most computer-related "stuff" now has a "licensed,
2721			not sold" tag attached. Ask yourself again, then, who has ultimate control
2722			unter TCG definitions.
2723	root	1.387	%
2724	root	1.366	But rememer they aren't doing anything wrong and they aren't trying to
2725			force anything on you. It is all opt-in and you always get to set the
2726			policy on your computer. It's just that nothing works any more unless you
2727			do opt-in and you do set your policy exactly they way they tell you to.
2728	root	1.387	%
2729	root	1.366	It's not coercion. It's for security. It helps the economy. It thwarts
2730			terrorists. TPM gives flags to orphans if that's what it needs to do to
2731			get people on board.
2732			%
2733	root	1.365	To have a secure computer, you must download the latest
2734			patches. Therefore, you must upgrade to SP4, and therefore, you must
2735			accept the EULA that requires you to agree with Microsoft's proprietary
2736			DRM.
2737
2738			The end is near. Security patches will soon require your body to be
2739			injected with RFID. Surely, we are all doomed.
2740	root	1.387	%
2741	root	1.364	[http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/09/01/1419222.shtml?tid=172&tid=109]
2742			switch ($decade) {
2743			case "the 50's":
2744			s/the Boogyman/Communist agitators/g;
2745			break;
2746			case "the 60's":
2747			s/the Boogyman/acid-eating hippies/g;
2748			break;
2749			case "the 70's":
2750			s/the Boogyman/disco/g;
2751			break;
2752			case "the 80's":
2753			s/the Boogyman/mutual assured destruction (and Grenada!)/g;
2754			break;
2755			case "the 90's":
2756			s/the Boogyman/evil hackers and George Michael/g;
2757			break;
2758			case "the 00's":
2759			s/the Boogyman/terrorists/g;
2760			break;
2761			}
2762	root	1.387	%
2763	root	1.363	http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2005/08/curiosities-from-japans-porno-shops.html
2764
2765			"How fucking creepy is that? As you can see from the flyer included
2766			in the capsule (note the kiddie crayon font), the other toys in the
2767			assortment include little girls spreading their legs, little girls sucking
2768			suggestively on popsicles, and little girls dry-humping their teddy bears"
2769
2770			"Interestingly enough, none of the cans were very long - maybe six inches
2771			at the most. I was trying to avoid the whole Asian-men-have-small-penises
2772			thing, but they kind of handed it to me on a silver platter."
2773
2774			""Maybe I should just try it. Just see what it feels like..." I mean,
2775			why not, right? You know. Just for kicks, right? So you know what? I
2776			fucked it. Yeah. I fucked a plastic beer can. I fucked the shit out of
2777			that can. And you know what? It felt alright. It did the trick. That
2778			is, until it was all over. Until the moment after, when I was hit by a
2779			sobering freight train of humility, looking down at my dick stuck inside a
2780			latex vagina housed in a plastic beer can. Moments like that you start to
2781			question everything - "How the hell did it come to this? Who am I? What am
2782			I doing with my life?" I probably sat there for an hour, silently with my
2783			plastic lover, pondering my existence."
2784	root	1.387	%
2785	root	1.362	"The scholars of Islam, such as Malik, Ash-Shafi`i, Ahmad and Ishaaq said
2786			that (the person guilty of this crime) should be stoned, whether he is
2787			married or unmarried."
2788
2789			http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547102
2790			http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/02/Article01-0.shtml
2791			http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/07/Article02.shtml
2792			http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545556
2793			http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543324
2794	root	1.387	%
2795	root	1.362	http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503546996
2796
2797			[I like this comparison between of and watching television:]
2798			Your brother is not at all different from those who have been conditioned
2799			to fornicate, or commit theft or murder, or who have become addicted to
2800			watching pornography or even television for that matter. All of these
2801			are destructive habits that one learns through continuous exposure or
2802			conditioning.
2803
2804			[And this is religion at its best:]
2805			Let him continuously read, reflect and meditate on the verses of the
2806			Qur'an that deal with the punishment meted to the nation who practiced
2807			this abomination; let him also read the verses depicting hell fire.
2808	root	1.387	%
2809	root	1.361	[Racism]
2810			http://www.flickr.com/photos/firewall/38725768/
2811	root	1.387	%
2812	root	1.360	[A link, just a link]
2813			http://www.oilcrisis.com/
2814	root	1.387	%
2815	root	1.359	As you may have noticed, the HOWTO is getting stale, you can't subscribe to
2816			the mailinglist and a lot of messages sent to it aren't getting through.
2817
2818			I apologise for this.
2819
2820			If all goes well I'll get my driver's license this Tuesday, which will allow
2821			me to visit the server, which I can't easily reach right now.
2822	root	1.387	%
2823	root	1.358	PSYC @> el says: von java bekommt man krebs
2824			induktiv says: java is ein riesiger marketing misthaufen voll mit code von uebereifrigen fh-programmierern
2825			el says: ich kenn da wen
2826			el says: bei dem wars so
2827			[...]
2828			PSYC @> el says: und.. naja, der hat also ganz viel java programmiert
2829			el says: und bekam augenkrebs
2830			el says: gehirntumor auch
2831			el says: ich weiss nicht, was vorher da war
2832	root	1.387	%
2833	root	1.357	wget http://el.l.tobij.de/ratz.jpg && xsetbg ratz.jpg
2834	root	1.387	%
2835	root	1.356	[in a reply to a school work assignment about proving why env vars make
2836			no sense in the kernel]
2837			From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
2838
2839			[...]
2840
2841			Mathematical proofs are accomplished within a framework of mathematical
2842			models.
2843
2844			In the postmodern time period and we gave up belief that the mathematical
2845			models are an accurate representation of reality. We only expect that
2846			they are sufficiently accurate for the purposes at hand.
2847	root	1.387	%
2848	root	1.354	[such nice quotes from http://theinquirer.net/?article=24638]
2849			There will be EF devices, EF branded content and probably EF branded
2850			contraceptives to use while watching EF branded porn.
2851			--
2852			Any DRM on a machine is simply a sign of failure.
2853	root	1.355	--
2854			This crushing DRM that is being foisted upon you is the surest sign that
2855			you don't want this product, and you will be paying too much for it. Don't
2856			like that? Bought legislators are hard at work making sure you will go to
2857			jail if you try to exercise your rights on the issue.
2858	root	1.387	%
2859	root	1.353	An absolutely fascinating interview with Robert Pape, a University of
2860			Chicago professor who has studied every suicide terrorist attack since
2861			1980. "The central fact is that overwhelmingly suicide-terrorist
2862			attacks are not driven by religion as much as they are by a clear
2863			strategic objective: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military
2864			forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland."
2865			<http://www.amconmag.com/2005_07_18/article.html>
2866			[From: CRYPTO-GRAM 2005-08-15]
2867	root	1.387	%
2868	root	1.352	[If you are a US citizen, you might want to fight for the right to vote,
2869			which you currently do not posess]
2870			http://reclaimdemocracy.org/political_reform/right_to_vote.html
2871	root	1.387	%
2872	root	1.388	Kind: "Daad! Die alten Griechen mußten 44 Arten der Selbstverteidigung lernen, ohne Waffen!"
2873			Vater: "Dafür haben wir eine zweistufige elektrische Heckenschere."
2874	root	1.351	[Nach: Time Bandits]
2875	root	1.387	%
2876	root	1.350	http://www.cpmission.com/main/painpolitics/mdjackson.html
2877	root	1.387	%
2878	root	1.349	Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off
2879			a horse.." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse.."
2880	root	1.387	%
2881	root	1.432	Tcl is LISP on drugs. Using strings instead of S-expressions for closures
2882			is Evil with one of those gigantic E's you can find at the beginning of
2883			paragraphs.
2884	root	1.387	%
2885	root	1.347	[the average IQ seems to be declining]
2886			http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000953.html
2887			http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/
2888	root	1.387	%
2889	root	1.346	[http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/07/31/0626257.shtml?tid=153&tid=98&tid=95&tid=103&tid=219]
2890			> If you know anything, most catholics register as democrats
2891
2892			Most catholics aren't American.
2893	root	1.387	%
2894	root	1.345	[Some things possibly cannot exist...]
2895
2896			[http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/depleted-uranium.html]
2897			In NEWS1920, we demonstrated how America's widespread usage of Depleted
2898			Uranium munitions is fulfilling the prophetic End of the Age prophecy
2899			against Babylon (Iraq). Now, we examine how our D.U. is quite possibly
2900			fulfilling another major prophecy: Revelation 6:3-4
2901
2902			[http://cuttingedge.org/detail.cfm?ID=939]
2903			How Mormon Temples Are Built To Be Demon Magnets
2904	root	1.387	%
2905	root	1.344	[http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/23/egypt.explosions/index.html]
2906			Asked whether he thought the blasts might be related to Islam, he
2907			replied, "What Islam? This terrorism has nothing to do with any religion,
2908			because all religions do not allow aggression and do not allow killing
2909			civilians in innocence. Those don't belong to Muslims. They are a gang of
2910			criminals."
2911	root	1.387	%
2912	root	1.343	The Black Hole in the Galactic Center
2913			[http://www.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de/staff/hfalcke/bh/sld1.html]
2914	root	1.387	%
2915	root	1.342	To me anything above 30 fps is good and 45-50 is amazing... 75 is more
2916			than I've seen lol. Then again I come from a mac
2917	root	1.387	%
2918	root	1.341	[There are things the US congress can do that were far beyond my imagination]
2919			http://reason.com/rauch/99_08_07.shtml
2920	root	1.387	%
2921	root	1.340	The MSI MS-9130 (K8T Master2-FAR) is an excellent board. The only problem
2922			I had was with my video card shorting out and frying both the board and
2923			card (They went up in flames).
2924	root	1.387	%
2925	root	1.432	05:46 <mmead> AP and UPI reported that the French government announced yesterday that
2926			it has raised its terror alert level from "run" to "hide." The only two
2927			higher levels in France are "surrender" and "collaborate." The action
2928			was precipitated by the recent fire which destroyed one of France's
2929	root	1.338	white flag factories, disabling their military.
2930	root	1.432	05:47 <mmead> it's obviously been recirculated recently:
2931	root	1.339	http://www.edthibodeau.com/nonplussed/2004/10/french_terror_a.html
2932	root	1.387	%
2933	root	1.337	[The following quote from a NASA press release shows impressively how much
2934			we know. And more importantly, how to build up scientific knowledge part
2935			by part. "Knowledge" always has a margin-of-error inherently attached to it.]
2936
2937			"The cloud indicated the comet is covered in the powdery stuff."
2938
2939			[http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/text/di_pr_20050708.txt]
2940	root	1.387	%
2941	root	1.336	[http://www.skippy.net/blog/2005/06/09/security-through-stupidity/]
2942			Silly questions abound, all to cover people's butts. When I moved to
2943			the US in 1992 (from Canada), one of the questions on my green card
2944			application was "Do you, or any member of your immediate family, plan to
2945			violently overthrow the government of the United States or assasinate any
2946			elected official?" Not only did they have checkboxes for "yes" and "no",
2947			but they had a blank space labelled, "If you checked 'yes', please provide
2948			a detailed explanation in the space below." I never figured out what kind
2949			of explanation would make them give you a green card anyway.
2950			--
2951			Hasbro should ask the same. Teddy Ruxpin chips were found on a number
2952			of landmines during the first gulf war... First, we just thought these
2953			people REALLY hate Teddy Ruxpin, maybe we're not so different after all...
2954			but on further investigation, Ruxpin had easily-programmable EEPROMs, so
2955			the Ruxpin chip was actually being repurposed as a controller for the
2956			explosives. They were jackin' overseas deliveries to get the Ruxpins.
2957	root	1.387	%
2958	root	1.335	http://graphics.stanford.edu/~danielrh/vote/vote.html
2959			The Obfuscated V contest
2960	root	1.387	%
2961	root	1.335	Airplane security is getting surreal: "...FAA regulation that requires
2962			soldiers -- all of whom were armed with an arsenal of assault rifles,
2963			shotguns and pistols -- to surrender pocket knives, nose hair scissors and
2964			cigarette lighters."
2965			http://tinyurl.com/7z8my
2966	root	1.387	%
2967	root	1.334	<http://babygimp.sourceforge.net/>
2968			Does it run under Windows ?
2969			- Who cares?
2970	root	1.387	%
2971	root	1.333	[Can hot water freeze faster than cold water?]
2972	root	1.332	http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html
2973	root	1.387	%
2974	root	1.331	http://www.physik3.gwdg.de/~rgeisle/nld/sbsl-howto.html
2975			Single Bubble Sonoluminescence HOWTO
2976			[...]
2977			Don't bother me with "my bottle exploded, what was wrong?"-stuff; While the bottle is heated it mustn't be closed!
2978			[...]
2979			Darken your room completely. Adapt your eyes, which may take 15 minutes up
2980			to half an hour. Look at the flask or at least where you think your flask
2981			is (remember: the room is completely darkened).
2982	root	1.387	%
2983	root	1.329	[de.alt.ufo]
2984	root	1.432	> Ja, stimmt - ich hatte mich früher viel mit Leuten beschäftigt, die
2985			> wahrscheinlich entführt wurden, oder bei denen es den Anschein hatte. Im
2986			> Moment beschäftige ich mich mit der Konstruktion eines kleinen UFO-
2987	root	1.388	> Detektors, der die UFO- Ereignisse auch zählt.-
2988	root	1.330	> www.ufo-finder.de
2989	root	1.432	> Aber Feld-Forscher bin ich deshalb noch nicht. Das geht gesundheitlich nicht
2990	root	1.330	> mehr!
2991			> richy.
2992
2993			Und es gibt wirklich Deppen, die sich von dir abzocken lassen??
2994	root	1.387	%
2995	root	1.330	[de.alt.ufo]
2996	root	1.329	> Wie kann ich online etwas belegen, das sich in der Vergangenheit
2997			> zugetragen hat?
2998
2999			Das solltest Du Dich selbst mal fragen. Wenn Du es nicht belegen kannst,
3000			warum behauptest Du es dann?
3001	root	1.388	[später]
3002			> Ach, wenn es interessant wird, umfängt Dich Faulheit?
3003	root	1.329
3004			Bei dir ist das angemessen, du hast deinen Ruf weg.
3005			Du plapperst immer nur von Belegen, verlangst letzten Endes
3006			naturwissenschaftliche/physikalische Beweise (genaugenommen:
3007			ein Alien-craft zum Vorfuehren), darunter akzeptierst du nichts,
3008			aber das stellt sich erst nach ellenlangen threads heraus.
3009
3010			Aber das ist bekannt, und eigentlich belanglos.
3011
3012			Wer sich auf Debatten mit dir einlaesst und Argumente erwartet
3013			von jemand, der die Wissenschaft zur Ersatzreligion verquast,
3014			ist eigentlich selbst schuld.
3015	root	1.387	%
3016	root	1.388	[de.alt.ufo, über einen www.rtl.de-news-Artikel]
3017	root	1.328	Wie die Skepsos so schoen sagen: der Verfasser von dem Quark war so offen,
3018			dem ist das Gehirn rausgefallen.
3019	root	1.387	%
3020	root	1.327	[res_nsend.c]
3021			/* give the hook another try */
3022			if (++loops < 42) /doug adams/
3023			break;
3024	root	1.387	%
3025	root	1.326	[sr_port/mdq.h]
3026	root	1.432	/* Insert a doubly-linked list of elements from "n->q.fl" to "n->q.bl"
3027	root	1.326	in between "o" and "o->q.fl" */
3028			#define dqadd(o,n,q) ((o)->q.fl->q.bl=(n)->q.bl,(n)->q.bl->q.fl=(o)->q.fl,(o)->q.fl=(n)->q.fl,(n)->q.fl->q.bl=(o))
3029	root	1.387	%
3030	root	1.325	Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
3031	root	1.387	%
3032	root	1.324	* Andreas Waechter <mail@andreas-waechter.de> [06-25-05 00:58]:
3033	root	1.432	> No, Thunderbird should not "reply" to the list with the
3034	root	1.324	> current settings of the list.
3035	root	1.432	>
3036			> There is no "Reply-To" header, thus a "Reply" has to go to
3037			> the address in the "From" header - which is the address of
3038	root	1.324	> the original sender, not the list.
3039	root	1.432	>
3040			> The List address is in the "To" field. Thus only a "Reply
3041			> All" will go to the list as CC (and to the original sender
3042	root	1.324	> as TO).
3043	root	1.432	>
3044	root	1.324	> Don't blame my mail client for the set-up of the list.
3045
3046			Your mail client is not being blamed. It is your
3047			responsibility. No one disputes your choice of mail client, but it
3048			is your responsibility to see that your posts are properly
3049			addressed to the list, not the list's software or the people you are
3050			being discourteous to.
3051
3052			The fault is all yours. It is/was your choice.
3053			--
3054			Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535
3055	root	1.387	%
3056	root	1.323	[http://www.heise.de/ct/00/20/104/]
3057	root	1.388	"Sie können mit falschen Tatsachen Leute überzeugen, das ist nun mal so."
3058	root	1.387	%
3059	root	1.322	An appeals court in Minnesota has ruled that the presence of encryption
3060			software [PGP] on a computer may be viewed as evidence of criminal intent.
3061			http://www.granick.com/archive/2005_05_01_theshout_archive.html#1117581
3062			http://news.com.com/Minnesota+court+takes+dim+view+of+encryption/2100-1030_3-5718978.html
3063			http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/archive/ctappub/0505/opa040381-0503.htm
3064	root	1.387	%
3065	root	1.322	[http://www.komotv.com/stories/37150.htm]
3066			"They said 'no' and they said it's a national security issue. And I said
3067			what about my constitutional rights? And they said 'not at this point ...
3068			you don't have any'."
3069	root	1.323
3070			[I also am very fond of this quote:]
3071			"My concern is that if that's the way they're treating American citizens I
3072			would hate to think how they're treating other people. It's crazy."
3073			[Don't they have _any_ ethics?? What about equality? Ah well, I forgot...]
3074	root	1.387	%
3075	root	1.321	[http://wiki.ffii.org/CampIcecream050601En]
3076			Yes its true! If you go down to Place du Luxembourg from now until
3077			3pm, you can collect your free icecream and support the Computer
3078			Implemented Inventions Common Position!
3079	root	1.387	%
3080	root	1.319	[http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation/algorithm/upconversion/index.htm]
3081			The change from Blitz to standard arrays had little effect on the
3082			execution time so I stuck with the standard type. The standard arrays
3083			should be more acceptable to developers who want to modify the code.
3084			Insisting that the developer use a certain array container for no good
3085			reason will not win many fans.
3086
3087			[http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation.html has other nice
3088			documents in the algorithm section]
3089	root	1.387	%
3090	root	1.318	["Blue in the Face"]
3091			Ich kriege in New York keine Angst, nein... aber in Schweden...da isses
3092			irgendwie so leer und da sind alle betrunken... und alles funktioniert...
3093			und, naja, wnen du an einer roten Ampel den motor nicht abstellst, reden
3094			die leute mit dir.... die zeigen da im fernsehen ohrenoperationen...
3095
3096			Solche dinge machen mir Angst... nicht New York.
3097	root	1.387	%
3098	root	1.317	And before I forget it, readers fascinated by the idea of Central
3099			Europeans using A6 as a toilet paper size might also be interested to hear
3100			that the U.S. have for the same application field a standard square format
3101	root	1.388	of 4.5×4.5 in = 114×114 mm, which is for instance documented in New Jersey
3102	root	1.317	Specification No. 7572-01 (May 1997), section 2.3.
3103			[http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html]
3104	root	1.387	%
3105	root	1.316	[Better know what they actually do...]
3106	root	1.388	[Technische Richtlinie / Telekommunikationsüberwachung]
3107	root	1.316	http://www.regtp.de/imperia/md/content/tech_reg_t/ueberwachu/TR_TKUE_Ausgabe_4.1_29-11-2004.pdf
3108	root	1.315	[RFC3924 Cisco Architecture for Lawful Intercept in IP Networks]
3109			ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3924.txt
3110	root	1.387	%
3111	root	1.314	[rfc4096]
3112			The FTC called a summit of leading thinkers, and the regulation was
3113			amended to read "but don't use languages that go from right to left
3114			or up and down instead of plain old left to right." Needless to say,
3115			the reaction from the Freedonian League for the Defense of Linguistic
3116			Diversity killed that proposed regulation really quickly.
3117	root	1.387	%
3118	root	1.313	[just a really nice md5sum]
3119			99421268df476006401f11f96b655248
3120	root	1.387	%
3121	root	1.312	[a comment in some g729 sample implementation]
3122	root	1.432	* For G.729(,A,B) royalty payments, see http://www.sipro.com
3123	root	1.312	* WARNING: please make sure you are sitting down before looking
3124			* at their price list.
3125	root	1.387	%
3126	root	1.311	[http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=139347&cid=11665921]
3127			You'd think I was overgeneralizing, but I'm not. Absolutely every single
3128			time I see HN in use, I quickly end up learning that the programmer who
3129			wrote the code was an idiot. On at least two separate occasions, I've
3130			had to correct C code with HN that did not allocate space for the null
3131			terminator on any strings anywhere in the code. That's pretty much the
3132			level of programming talent you can expect when you see HN in use.
3133	root	1.387	%
3134	root	1.309	21:22 <mmead> tiger's SMB support is fucking broken
3135			21:26 <oesi> mmead: when you grow up, you will substitute "'s SMB support" by "" :)
3136	root	1.387	%
3137	root	1.308	03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> ich dachte immer alle beinhaltet mehr als 1
3138			03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> aba naja
3139			03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <oesi> nein, viele beinhaltet mehr als 1
3140			03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <bani_> stimmt auch wieder
3141	root	1.387	%
3142	root	1.319	[ein so gut geschriebenes dokument erwartet man eigentlich nicht mal vom BSI]
3143	root	1.307	http://www.bsi.bund.de/literat/studien/antispam/antispam.pdf
3144	root	1.387	%
3145	root	1.306	[some SPAM]
3146			Freie Geschlechtabbildungen und -filme. Und Phasennetznocken
3147	root	1.387	%
3148	root	1.305	cowsay -f head-in oink \| cowthink -n -f sodomized
3149	root	1.387	%
3150	root	1.304	[star wars episode guide]
3151			1 =Epichode 1: The Phantom Grimace
3152			2 =Epichode 2: Attack of the Groans
3153			3 =Epichode 3: Revenge of the Shit
3154			4 = Episode 4: A New Hope
3155			5 = Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back(By far the best Star Wars film. One of the finest movies ever made.)
3156			6 = Episode 6: Return of the Jedi(would have been a thousand times cooler if the ewoks had been Wookies).
3157			[http://www.beggingtodiffer.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=pp;action=display;num=1113843411]
3158	root	1.387	%
3159	root	1.300	[God knows his enemies]
3160			http://sheise.de/files/GODvsBUSH.gif
3161	root	1.302	[Uh-oh, "se germans are next"]
3162	root	1.303	http://sheise.de/files/cnn_iraq.jpg [a fake, but nevertheless]
3163	root	1.387	%
3164	root	1.299	http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054743/
3165	root	1.301	[Why is it that every good Hollywood movie is at least 30+ years old?]
3166	root	1.387	%
3167	root	1.298	[http://www.bildblog.de/]
3168	root	1.388	Die "Bild"-Zeitung schreibt Blödsinn, und alle schreiben's ab. Die
3169			rührende Geschichte von den "Unfallforschern", die angeblich "ermittelt"
3170			hätten, was doch nur eine schlichte Umrechnung von Stundenkilometern in
3171	root	1.298	Meter pro Sekunde ist, zieht Kreise.
3172
3173			Nachrichtenagentur ddp, 3. Mai, 03:16 Uhr:
3174
3175			Laut "Bild" ermittelten Unfallforscher, dass ein Auto bei einer
3176			Geschwindigkeit von 50 Kilometern pro Stunde etwa 14 Meter pro Sekunde
3177	root	1.388	ungebremst weiterfährt, während der Fahrer nach einer fallengelassenen
3178	root	1.298	Zigarette sucht.
3179
3180			Nachrichtenagentur AFP, 3. Mai, 04:25 Uhr:
3181
3182			[usw.]
3183
3184			Bei "Stern Online" ist aus den "Unfallforschern" schon eine ganze "Studie"
3185	root	1.388	geworden, die plötzlich zu Ergebnissen kommt, die nur scheinbar mit den
3186	root	1.298	bekannten "Ermittlungen" identisch sind:
3187
3188			Nach Auffassung des SPD-Verkehrsexperten Peter Danckert kann eine
3189			brennende Zigarette den Fahrer jedoch ebenso wie ein klingelndes
3190			Telefon ablenken. Er verwies auf eine Studie, nach der ein 50
3191			Stundenkilometer schnelles Auto mindestens 14 Meter weiterrolle, wenn
3192			der Fahrer nach einer Zigarette sucht.
3193	root	1.387	%
3194	root	1.388	[schlimmer als de.alt.ufo, schlimmer als jede Verarschung sein könnte...]
3195	root	1.297	http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2005/01/22/sonne__boese/sonne__boese.html
3196			http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2004/12/28/seebeben/zerreisst__unsere__erde.html
3197	root	1.387	%
3198	root	1.296	[http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=147629&cid=12370229]
3199			Which fanboy are you?
3200
3201			1. Windows
3202
3203			You wear wraparound sunglasses, even indoors. You wish your mother
3204			would let you ride a motorbike. You tell your friends you're pulling
3205			in $50,000 a year and $2,000 a month "playing the stock market" but
3206			in reality you're only bringing in half that and your dividends from
3207			MSFT havn't been good in years. Your non computing friends all turn
3208			to you for help; you only charge $30 an hour. Your collegues talk
3209			about you behind your back. Your workplace nickname is likely to be
3210			"The Asshole". Unlike the Linux fanboys, you actually try to pick up
3211			dates in bars but women laugh at you.
3212
3213			2. Apple
3214
3215			You think you're so cool you hurt. You have mirrors on every wall
3216			in your "loft apartment", which is really a grimy little apartment
3217			next to a guy who plays Guns 'n Roses at 3am. All of your furniture
3218			is from Ikea. You sometimes think that changing your name to "Steve"
3219			would be "pretty cool". When you go to bars you only drink Miller
3220			Lite. No body ever asks you for help with their computers because
3221			they know you don't know anything but OS X, even if you do tell them
3222			you "run Unix" now. Your friends openly laugh at you.
3223
3224			3. Linspire
3225
3226			You regularly give $10 bills to homeless guys because you have
3227			too much money. Computers baffle you, but you enjoy looking at
3228			pictures of naked women. You don't know what Linux is, but you
3229			continually bugged the IT guy at work about your computer so he
3230			installed Linspire on your machine.
3231
3232			4. Umbongo
3233
3234			You shop at GAP. You probably used to use a Mac. When you saw the
3235			multiracial image used as a desktop picture and heard that this
3236			operating system came from the same country as Nelson Mandela, you
3237			knew it was for you. You meet with your friends in fair-trade coffee
3238			houses and talk about the eventual overthrow of evil corporations
3239			such as Microsoft and Starbucks. Like the Linspire user, you have
3240			very little real knowlege when it comes to computers but you would
3241			never use your computer to look at pictures of women degrading
3242			themselves.
3243
3244			5. Gentoy
3245
3246			You've been "into computers" for ohh, one or two years now and fancy
3247			yourself as "a bit of a hacker". Wouldn't know C from C++, or even
3248			Perl for that matter. Older Gentoy users may be building their homes
3249			from matchsticks. You've explained to all your friends that your
3250			matchstick house will have an "optimised floorplan". They've tried
3251			to tell you that your house violates every known building code and
3252			law in your area, but you've ignored them so far because you can't
3253			read those complicated regulatory documents.
3254
3255			6. Linux From Scratch
3256
3257			Much like the Gentoy user but you'd also be into sadomasochistic
3258			sex if you could get it. You're not just building a house from
3259			matchsticks, you're planing to grow the trees to make the
3260			matchsticks. You've cleared some land but don't know what to do next
3261			because you havn't read the books you've got, so you've posted to
3262			alt.arborists.newbie asking for help. It's been three days so far
3263			and no one has replied. You remain hopeful.
3264	root	1.387	%
3265	root	1.295	[/usr/bin/cowsay]
3266			if (($^O eq "MSWin32") or ($^O eq "Windows_NT")) { ## Many perls, eek!
3267	root	1.387	%
3268	root	1.294	[A few days after the 6.0.9 release announcement]
3269
3270			In the spirit of release early, release often.... Err no, actually more
3271			in the spirit of, let's not try to lose data during file resolution...
3272
3273			Coda 6.0.10 is out
3274	root	1.387	%
3275	root	1.293	<opine@orifice2.com> wrote:
3276
3277			> > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:55:28 -0800, CrabRangoon wrote
3278	root	1.432	>
3279	root	1.388	> > Meine Großmutter hat einen kleinen Hinterhof und sie benutzt selten die
3280	root	1.293	> > Dusche. Bei vielen Gelegenheiten habe ich mehr als 4
3281	root	1.388	> > Lebensmittelgeschäftspeicher-Versorgungsmaterialien Sellerie an einem
3282			> > einzelnen Tag verbraucht. Würde es irgendein Benzin unter meiner Couch
3283			> > geben, wenn ich meine Hose bügelte?
3284	root	1.432	>
3285			> What does your granny's tiny ass have to do with this group? Other than the
3286	root	1.293	> smell attracting flies of course...
3287	root	1.432	>
3288	root	1.293	I figured a little non-native tongued nonsense would help keep this
3289			request near the top of the group. thanks for playing along.
3290	root	1.388	cheers and Haben Sie eine glückliche Karotte
3291	root	1.387	%
3292	root	1.432	00:24 <elmex> ich bin ja nur ein dummer niedersachse, der kaum was in der schule hatte
3293	root	1.387	%
3294	root	1.291	War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. -Ambrose Bierce
3295	root	1.387	%
3296	root	1.290	98% of the time I am right. Why worry about the other 3%.
3297	root	1.387	%
3298	root	1.289	[Bertram van Munster, Jerry Bruckheimers partner, interviewed in the BBC
3299			show "Correspondent"]
3300	root	1.288
3301			[...] I do reality television, and I've done this for many many many
3302			years, long before even anybody knew what reality was.
3303
3304			[so know we know who creates reality now]
3305			%
3306	root	1.287	[from wordnet]
3307			cock sucking, blowjob
3308			=> fellatio, fellation
3309			=> oral sex, head
3310			=> perversion, sexual perversion
3311			=> sexual activity, sexual practice, sex, sex activity
3312			=> bodily process, body process, bodily function, activity
3313			=> organic process, biological process
3314			=> process
3315			=> phenomenon
3316	root	1.387	%
3317	root	1.286	10:41 <oesi> [0]--(10:40:39)-(root@km)-(~/xxml)-> file tmon.out
3318			10:41 <oesi> tmon.out: ASCII Java program text
3319	root	1.387	%
3320	root	1.285	[SSK@J3GtFnEi8b~ko6mGvvXdrQoZ3D4PAgM,hhWspr43hLbvnrlkwxtDLg/ABC_NoJail/2//]
3321			[slightly edited]
3322			Largest prison population in the world is in the United States of America
3323			(in 2000: 2,071,686 persons, 22% of world prison population), it has more
3324			than double the prison population of Russia or China. What that means is
3325			that in USA 1 out of 143 residents are incarcerated.
3326
3327			About 88% of USA prison population is male, but female population is
3328			sharply on the rise, and might soon reach that of males, due mostly to new
3329			laws on terrorism and drugs.
3330
3331			Out of all the black males between 20 and 39, 12% are in custody (anybody
3332			told them about emancipation proclamation?).
3333	root	1.387	%
3334	root	1.284	"Begehe nur nicht den Fehler, Meinung durch Sachverstand zu substituieren."
3335			(PLemken, <bu6o7e$e6v0p$2@ID-31.news.uni-berlin.de>)
3336	root	1.387	%
3337	root	1.283	Mail::Box - 700MB of RSS to open a 30MB mail folder, one half of the
3338	root	1.282	advertised features doesn't work, while the other half is just buggy.
3339	root	1.387	%
3340	root	1.281	A ship is safe in harbor, but that is not what ships are built for.
3341	root	1.432	I learned that some cops lie. This was a brutal and profoundly disturbing
3342			realization: Those in control are not necessarily trustworthy.
3343	root	1.281	- Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
3344	root	1.387	%
3345	root	1.279	"parrot - from the people who brought you ithreads"
3346			- oesi
3347	root	1.387	%
3348	root	1.278	[US, Metric]
3349			http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/usmetric.html
3350	root	1.387	%
3351	root	1.432	[http://use.perl.org/~scrottie/journal]
3352	root	1.277	[I agree with that very much, most of his blog is really interesting]
3353	root	1.275	Sunday February 20, 2005 07:18 AM
3354			Minions Wanted [ 0 Comments \| #23269 ]
3355
3356			It's been about 10 years since I've had minions. They've all grown up,
3357			started painfully profitable companies, and now hob-knob whose-who of
3358			important and influential figures of their field. I'm growing old and
3359			increasinly mal-adapted to normal life. It's no longer becoming for me
3360			to leave my lair nor speak on the phone. I've reflected on making this
3361			post, and I've reflected at great length. Minions aren't what they used
3362			to be. Minions now days are soft and weak willed. In the old days, it was
3363			that minions would realize they can wield power if they're willing to
3364			spend a time subserviant to someone capable of teaching. Now days, kids
3365			have this notion that money only comes from the parents, power comes from
3366			your social (gag) circles, and glory comes from the things you own. They
3367			seek answers to Perl questions only for immediate gradification, not to
3368			truly master an insidious tactic and become a potent force. Kids now
3369			days, not nearly robust enough to be considered minion material. They,for
3370			their entire life, questioninglessly slide into being slaves of much
3371			more powerful overlords. They accept as payment for their servatude a
3372			few measily tens of thousands of dollars, and then only paid in payments
3373			yearly, calling that close enough to world domination, and inexchange
3374			for that paultry fee, deliver one after another innocent to the hands of
3375			Bill Gates, telling the clients they betray that Microsoft Windows is a
3376			servicable operating system and a supportable platform. While it is truly
3377			becoming to serve on the side of Microsoft, it is also well known the
3378			ranks are thin at the top but wide at the bottom, and few ever move past
3379			petty explotation of businesses and moronic home users.
3380
3381			This is not the stock I seek. These so short-sightedly driven by greed,
3382			rather than lusting for true power, amount to little more than orcs - a
3383			fodder of little use except as "consumers" in this modern age. It is far
3384			more becoming to hope to some day aspire to be an overlord of some small
3385			repute yourself and initially forego payment.
3386
3387			Minions in my service will be expected to endure maindane business-related
3388			tasks, such as answering the phone, but will always be allowed the
3389			basic dignity of being able to tell clients to "fuck off" when
3390			appropriate. Retaining dignity does not relieve the necessities of
3391			subordination, however. My minions may seek clarification but will never
3392			question me. For the term of their indenture, they will accept my teaching
3393			as truth itself. They will not seek short-cuts where I say there are none,
3394			and if I later reveal short-cuts, they will know it was because they were
3395			not yet ready before. While my young troglodytes will doubtless enterain
3396			perversion and drug abuse in their free time, they will go for the want of
3397			the very necessities of life should urgant cause arise.
3398
3399			In exchange, they will be tutored on the basic elements of evil and Perl
3400			programming and will share in the spoils of an insideous plot I've hatched
3401			some time ago to dupe large numbers of people out of money by playing on
3402			their greed and fear. Of course, in the interest of avoiding indictment
3403			myself, the details of the plot can never be revealed, but a clever
3404			student will quickly ascertain the nature of the ploy. After thier period
3405			of endenture, minions will have developed an eye for exploitation and
3406			trickery, but most importantly will have developed a deeper understanding
3407			of how things work - both in Perl and in the real world. They will see
3408			everything about them as quite potentially theirs - no program must go
3409			unwritten, and persuent to Free Trade Agreements, they will be as a
3410			sovereign nation.
3411
3412			While the offer is valid, this is a draft for a post on
3413			jobs.perl.org. Feedback is welcome - unless you're stupid, then stay the
3414			hell off my blog. Time and time again I forget both the power of TV to
3415			sap intelligence and the very prevelence of the thing. So let this be a
3416			test: if you watch more than half an hour a day of any programming besides
3417			CSPAN, don't post here.
3418
3419			-scott
3420	root	1.387	%
3421	root	1.274	But Mike Loughlin, who studied the boiling of lobsters when he was a
3422			University of Maine graduate student, said lobsters simply lack the brain
3423			capacity to feel pain.
3424
3425			"It's a semantic thing: No brain, no pain," said Loughlin, who now works
3426			as a biologist at the Maine Atlantic Salmon Commission.
3427	root	1.387	%
3428	root	1.273	Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp contextual F1 help & Crimson Editor in Windows
3429			From: Sven Neumann
3430
3431			Hi,
3432
3433	root	1.388	Rubén de Diego Martínez writes:
3434	root	1.432	> I also think that it's a bug. How may I report-it?
3435	root	1.273
3436			Go to http://support.microsoft.com/support/feedback/ and tell them
3437			that
3438
3439			ShellExecute (HWND_DESKTOP, "open", uri, NULL, NULL, SW_SHOWNORMAL);
3440
3441			does not do what you would expect it to do.
3442	root	1.387	%
3443	root	1.271	http://www.syslog.com/~jwilson/pics-i-like/kurios119.jpg
3444	root	1.272	the original comment says:
3445			This is probably part of an elaborate IQ test.
3446			Waiting at the gate means you fail.
3447	root	1.387	%
3448	root	1.271	{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} ich mir eine kolaflasche reingeschioebn
3449			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und dann ist meine klitoris erissen
3450			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und ich musste ins krankenhaus
3451			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} oh sorry, falsches fenster
3452			{Flat eric:Net-Knuddels} aja
3453			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} hi :)
3454	root	1.387	%
3455	root	1.275	[Java, like Delphi, requires manual destruction. Obvious, but still
3456	root	1.270	interesting read]
3457			http://www.octopull.demon.co.uk/java/ImmortalityAtaPrice.html
3458	root	1.387	%
3459	root	1.269	[Obscure Algorithms, just for my reference]
3460			http://aggregate.org/MAGIC/
3461			http://www.hackersdelight.org/HDcode.htm
3462	root	1.387	%
3463	root	1.268	In Los Angeles, the "HOLLYWOOD" sign is protected by a fence and a locked
3464			gate. Because several different agencies need access to the sign for
3465			various purposes, the chain locking the gate is formed by several locks
3466			linked together. Each of the agencies has the key to its own lock, and not
3467			the key to any of the others. Of course, anyone who can open one of the
3468			locks can open the gate.
3469
3470			This is a nice example of a multiple-user access-control system. It's
3471			simple, and it works. You can also make it as complicated as you want,
3472			with different locks in parallel and in series.
3473	root	1.387	%
3474	root	1.267	http://www.crypto.com/papers/safelocks.pdf
3475			Safecracking for the computer scientist
3476	root	1.387	%
3477	root	1.265	Fact: Something that you observe to be true.
3478
3479			Fact #1: when you drop a hammer, it falls to the ground
3480
3481			Fact #2: a genetic sequence can change sufficiently to form a new
3482			species. Speciation has been observed more than once in the laboratory
3483			and in the wild, so this is a fact. Since we call this process
3484			'evolution', that means evolution is a fact. Keep reading for more
3485			explanation of this.
3486
3487			Theory: An explanation of an observation
3488
3489			Theory #1: The theory of gravity is understood as a curvature in space,
3490			which explains why the hammer falls.
3491
3492			Theory #2: The Theory of Evolution through Natural Selection explains
3493			how a population's genome can change over time.
3494
3495	root	1.266	Law: Not really related to any of the other definitions. It's just a
3496			mathematical relationship between two values.
3497	root	1.265
3498			Law #1: If you double the distance from a source of light, the
3499			brightness falls off proportionally to the square of the distance.
3500
3501			Law #2: (expressed as a formula) F=ma. Force equals mass times
3502			acceleration.
3503
3504			Please note that Evolution is a fact, and the theory is called the Theory
3505			of Evolution through Natural Selection. There are other theories of
3506			evolution, which have been disproved. A famous one is the theory of
3507			evolution through acquired characteristics, also known as Lamarkian
3508			evolution. It posited that species evolve by acquiring and retaining
3509			useful characteristics through use. Therefore, a giraffe would have
3510			longer necks if the previous generations stretched their necks to reach
3511			high leaves. This was the main theory that Darwin and others showed to be
3512			false.
3513
3514			[by Profane MuthaFucka (574406)]
3515	root	1.387	%
3516	root	1.388	[Aus: Psychologie heute, 10/2003, über einen Artikel von Rentfrow/Gosling,
3517	root	1.264	Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 6/2003]
3518
3519			Fans von reflexiven und komplexen Musikstilen wie Klassik, Blues, Jazz und
3520			Folk sind offen, tolerant und machen gerne neue Erfahrungen. Sie halten
3521	root	1.388	sich für intelligent - und sind es auch. Außerdem können sie gut mit
3522			Worten umgehen, schätzen das schöne. haben eine starke Vorstellungskraft
3523			und sind politisch liberal eingestellt. Sie sind häufig etwas unsportlich
3524	root	1.264	und wollen andere nicht dominieren.
3525
3526	root	1.388	Anhänger von intensiven und rebellischen Musikrichtungen wie Heavy Metal,
3527			Rock und alternativer Musik sind offen für Experimente. Sie halten sich
3528			außerdem für intelligent, eloquent und sportlich. Obwohl die Musik, die
3529			sie bevorzugen, vorwiegend negatives ausdrückt, scheint dies nicht auf
3530			sie abzufärben: Sie sind weder neurotischer noch unverträglicher als die
3531			Fans anderer Musikrichtungen. Darüber hinaus sind sie wissensdurstig,
3532			risikobereit und körperlich aktiv.
3533	root	1.264
3534			Beschwingt und konventionell. So bezeichnen Rentfrow und Gosling
3535	root	1.388	Popsongs und Schmusehits, Countrymusik, Filmmusik und religiöse Musik
3536			(Spirituals, Gospels, Kirchenlieder). Wer diese Musik gerne hört, ist ein
3537			umgänglicher Zeitgenosse: Er geht gern aus sich heraus, ist verträglich,
3538			fröhlich, zuverlässig, hilfsbereit und gewissenhaft. Seine Einstellungen
3539	root	1.264	sind eher konservativ, Beredesamkeit und Offenheit sind nicht seine
3540	root	1.388	Stärken. Dafür hält er sich aber für attraktiv und vor allem für
3541	root	1.264	sportlich.
3542
3543	root	1.388	Wer sich für energetische und rhythmische Musik begeistern kann (Rap,
3544			Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, Electronica) trägt sein Herz auf der Zunge. Er
3545			ist umgänglich, quirlig, liberal eingestellt, extravertiert und ein
3546			wenig eitel: Er hält sich für attraktiv und sportlich. Konservatives
3547			Gedankengut und Dominanz über andere liegen ihm hingegen fern.
3548	root	1.264
3549	root	1.388	Die besten verbalen Fähigkeiten haben die Angehörigen der ersten beiden
3550	root	1.264	Gruppen. Am wenigsten beredt ist die dritte Gruppe. An analytischem
3551	root	1.388	Verstand mangelt es vor allen den Musikhörern der vierten Gruppe.
3552			während die erste Gruppe, gefolgt von der zweiten, am meisten davon
3553	root	1.264	vorzuweisen hat.
3554
3555			"Die intelligenteste Gruppe bevorzugt die komplexeste Musik", sagen die
3556			Forscher.
3557	root	1.387	%
3558	root	1.263	[Very well-written article on the legal foundazion of licensing, and
3559			the extreme difference in what a free software license does vs. a
3560			EULA-style license]
3561	root	1.262	http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/cores/2005/01/001453
3562	root	1.387	%
3563	root	1.261	The Pirate Bay is a BitTorrent tracking site in Sweden with 150,000 users
3564			a day. In the fall, it posted a torrent for Shrek 2. Dreamworks sent a
3565			cease-and-desist letter demanding the site remove it. One of the site's
3566			pseudonymous owners, Anakata, replied: "As you may or may not be aware,
3567			Sweden is not a state in the United States of America. Sweden is a country
3568			in northern Europe [and] US law does not apply here. ... It is the opinion
3569			of us and our lawyers that you are fucking morons." Shrek 2 stayed up.
3570	root	1.387	%
3571	root	1.260	Java is, in many ways, C++--. (Michael Feldman)
3572	root	1.387	%
3573	root	1.259	[Happy New Year]
3574			23:42 -!- zaphod [jkneer@fatboy.laendle] has quit [Quit: Hochhaus]
3575			Day changed to 01 Jan 2005
3576			00:24 <schmorp> re
3577	root	1.387	%
3578	root	1.258	[http://www.calsky.com/lexikon/de/txt/f/fe/fehlschluss.php]
3579	root	1.388	Im besten Fall kann die Verknüpfung zweier Tatsachen Verdachtsmomente
3580			liefern, die mit wissenschaftlichen Methoden abgeklärt werden
3581	root	1.258	sollen. Was eine wissenschaftliche Methode ist, ist Gegenstand anderer
3582			wissenschaftlicher Untersuchungen.
3583	root	1.387	%
3584	root	1.257	[funny page(s), although I think it's sad that people trying to "debunk"
3585			bad science theories are prone to the same logical fallacies as the
3586			proponents of such theories.]
3587			http://www.xs4all.nl/~mke/Planet-X.htm
3588			"On the Internet, there's a picture circulating that's supposedly `secret
3589			evidence' from Russia, proving Planet X is an inhabited world. The makers
3590			took the original photo (top left), enlarged it, and upgraded it with
3591			`solarize' and `find edges'. And look... Suddenly, you see all kinds of
3592			spaceships orbiting the planet! (top right) I followed exactly the same
3593			procedure, using a photo of one Robert Bridson, math student at Stanford
3594			University (below, left). After enlarging and solarizing the photograph,
3595			it became clear that mr. Bridsons left ear actually is inhabited by
3596			intelligent beings, since there clearly is a spaceship taking off from it
3597			(below, right)."
3598	root	1.387	%
3599	root	1.256	[wonderful info...]
3600			http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/
3601			[useful info...]
3602			http://www.snopes.com/
3603	root	1.387	%
3604	root	1.253	Computer analyst to programmer:
3605			"You start coding. I'll go find out what they want."
3606	root	1.387	%
3607	root	1.252	[Fun!]
3608			http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
3609	root	1.387	%
3610	root	1.388	[Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 11/2004, über Informationstransport im All]
3611	root	1.251	"Wenn unsere Vettern im Kosmos wirklich intelligent sind, werden ihre
3612			Computer sicher nicht mit Microsoft-Betriebssystemen ausgestattet sein."
3613	root	1.387	%
3614	root	1.250	[in our continued series, "solaris source code", today, /bin/true]
3615			ddev5:~$ cat /bin/true
3616			#!/usr/bin/sh
3617			# Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
3618			# All Rights Reserved
3619
3620			# THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
3621			# The copyright notice above does not evidence any
3622			# actual or intended publication of such source code.
3623
3624			#ident "@(#)true.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.4 */
3625	root	1.432	ddev5:~$
3626	root	1.387	%
3627	root	1.249	22:07 <elmex> schmorp: naja, es beweist das das konzept von java nicht funktioniert
3628			22:07 <schmorp> elmex: welches konzept?
3629			22:07 <elmex> das "hack dir die beine ab, und lauf nen marathon"-konzept ;)
3630	root	1.387	%
3631	root	1.248	[Gtk2/Makefile.PL]
3632			# win32 does not allow unresolved symbols in libraries, but
3633			# Gtk2 uses on symbols in the dll created for Glib.
3634			# so, we have to break all this nice abstraction and encapsulation
3635			# and find the actual Glib.dll and Glib.lib installed by perl when
3636			# the Glib module was built, and add it to the list of lib files.
3637			#
3638			# say it with me: "i hate win32."
3639	root	1.387	%
3640	root	1.388	Immerhin meint die Filmförderungsanstalt, im Jahr 2002 seien 59
3641	root	1.247	Millionen CD-Rohlinge von 5,9 Millionen Nutzern mit Filmen bespielt
3642			worden, im Durchschnitt also zwo:lf Rohlinge pro Anwender.
3643			-- <http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/see-08.04.03-000/>
3644	root	1.387	%
3645	root	1.246	http://otierney.net/images/perl6.gif
3646	root	1.387	%
3647	root	1.245	[http://www.kinderschaender.de/begriff.htm]
3648	root	1.388	Das einzige, was die Seite wirklich gezeigt hat, ist, daß es kaum Menschen
3649			gibt, die weiter denken als ein Schwein scheißt.
3650	root	1.387	%
3651	root	1.244	http://www.paulgraham.com/fix.html
3652			[I'd say ALL the essays on http://www.paulgraham.com/articles.html
3653			are readable, and in most cases I wholeheartedly agree with them.]
3654	root	1.387	%
3655	root	1.243	http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/security_report_windows_vs_linux/
3656	root	1.387	%
3657	root	1.243	[From: CRYPTO-GRAM]
3658			Bill Gates points out that all those IE security holes have not been
3659			Microsoft's fault. (The first step towards recovery is recognizing
3660			that you have a problem.)
3661			<http://slashdot.org/articles/04/10/15/015239.shtml?tid=109&tid=1>
3662	root	1.387	%
3663	root	1.242	[top output on redhat9, with one real-time priority process]
3664			PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME CPU COMMAND
3665	root	1.247	25788 root 18446744073709551565 0 10076 9.8M 2816 S 0.9 1.9 0:01
3666	root	1.242	26064 root 21 0 1508 1508 1184 S 0.3 0.2 0:00 0 curl
3667
3668			[I am continually amazed at how redhat is able to break utilities that worked
3669			and work on other distributions without flaws again and again and again...]
3670	root	1.387	%
3671	root	1.241	That depends. There is C++ and there is C++. There are many different
3672			sorts of C++, I'll talk about 2 of them:
3673
3674			Category 1 code is 'C with classes and on-the-fly variable
3675			declarations'. It uses macros, bad encapsulation, no const-correctness,
3676			etc. Category 1 code tends to either use object oriented programing
3677			exclusively, or use it combined with procedural programming. Other
3678			programming paradigms are extremely rare. It often uses non-portable hacks
3679			because Standard-knowledge is scarce among category 1 coders. Category 1
3680			code is seen mostly in Flipcode and Gamedev.net articles and forums. Also
3681			it is seen in almost every API ever developed by Microsoft. A slightly
3682			less bad version of category 1 code is seen in libraries that call
3683			themselves "high-quality C++ libraries" but that don't even use a single
3684			namespace and rely heavily on macros and other unsafe preprocessing
3685			techniques where this is totally unnecessary. Most of those libraries are
3686			that way because they were started before the 1998 C++ Standard's stuff
3687			got implemented in main-stream compilers.
3688
3689			Category 2 code is what I'd like to see as the meaning of the term
3690			"C++ code". It is Standard-compliant, uses multiple programming
3691			paradigms and is pushing the language to the max (and beyond ;) to
3692			create easy to use, efficient, highly-reusable and easy to extend
3693			programs/libraries/modules/etc. Unfortunately, category 2 code is
3694			hard to write when you have to work with incompetent compilers like
3695			MSVC6/7. Category 2 code is mostly seen in:
3696	root	1.387	%
3697	root	1.240	[On "Main Loop with Fixed Time Steps", a Windows programmer commented:]
3698	root	1.239
3699			Just to point out, With a tick being a maximum of FFFFFFFFh, you only
3700			have about 49 days of tick time since the system has started! Though I
3701			doubt any game or even system runs for that long.
3702	root	1.387	%
3703	root	1.238	[http://www.paulgraham.com/popular.html]
3704			"The best writing is rewriting," wrote E. B. White. Every good writer
3705			knows this, and it's true for software too.
3706	root	1.387	%
3707	root	1.237	> think it needs the Ultimate Refactor..."rm -rf programs/Xserver/GL"
3708
3709			... and I was told "rm -rf" means "read mail, really fast!"
3710			;)
3711	root	1.387	%
3712	root	1.235	[this is not a blogggggg]
3713			One fine day, I removed the "video=matrox:off" from my kernel commandline,
3714			having removed the matrox card from my machine months ago. Promptly, the
3715			proprietary nvidia driver greeted me with:
3716
3717			NVIDIA: Failed to map framebuffer memors
3718
3719	root	1.236	Adding the video option back made it work again. No, I do not have any
3720			framebuffer devices compiled into the kernel, either...
3721	root	1.387	%
3722	root	1.234	[taken out of a public mail by a journalist... I have never seen anybody
3723			using so many abbreviations...]
3724
3725			Hi Volker -
3726
3727			alles klar ..!? Bin mit dem Buch i. Stretch .. Lektorat / Korrektorat
3728	root	1.388	Architekturbuch ... wie üblich, kennst das ja wahrsch. auch ... alles zu
3729			spät ...
3730	root	1.234
3731			Dann gehts direktemang in die Ferien (2 Wochen Gomera ab komm. SA ...)
3732
3733			Ja, und dann find ich doch Volker ganz Massiv im Briefkasten a. SA ..
3734
3735	root	1.388	schönes Foto von dir ... 1 Seite .. 2 seiten Interview, m. Fortsetzung im
3736			nächsten Heft ..!!! (äusserst rar b. nem Interview ...)
3737	root	1.234
3738	root	1.388	herzliche Grüsse
3739	root	1.234
3740			tom
3741	root	1.247
3742	root	1.234	PS: Mein Wissenschtf.Kollege und Filmemacher ist der Meinung, dass das Thema
3743	root	1.388	'Copyrights, Commons, Freedom' etc ...spannend wäre, aber schlecht fürs TV
3744	root	1.234	... Du kannst prakt. nichts mehr themat. Anspruchsvolles machen ... auch b.
3745	root	1.388	Arte war irgend nen Problem (fällt mir auf d. Schnelle nicht mehr ein ...
3746	root	1.234	schon ein paar Wochen her ...)
3747	root	1.387	%
3748	root	1.233	From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
3749			Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4
3750			Message-ID: <20040826183838.GE2793@holomorphy.com>
3751
3752			On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 02:02:29AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
3753	root	1.247	> How old are you? I thought you were the guy at Linux Tag with fashion
3754			> oriented hair who gave a talk on his XFS work? Did I confuse you with
3755	root	1.233	> someone else?
3756
3757			Index: mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS
3758			===================================================================
3759			--- mm1-2.6.9-rc1.orig/CREDITS 2004-08-26 10:37:57.424567967 -0700
3760			+++ mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS 2004-08-26 11:35:24.977260109 -0700
3761			@@ -2677,6 +2677,14 @@
3762			S: 79098 Freiburg
3763			S: Germany
3764
3765			+N: Hans Reiser
3766			+E: reiser@namesys.com
3767			+W: http://www.namesys.com/
3768			+D: official Linux kernel hairstyle critic
3769			+S: 6979 Exeter Dr
3770			+S: Oakland, CA 94611
3771			+S: USA
3772			+
3773			N: Joerg Reuter
3774			E: jreuter@yaina.de
3775			W: http://yaina.de/jreuter/
3776	root	1.387	%
3777	root	1.232	Partial lynx-output for mail sent by "T-Online Vertragsbrief":
3778			[poeppel_magenta.gif]
3779	root	1.387	%
3780	root	1.231	[http://www.dark-skies.org/theproblems.html#security]
3781			Better ligthing does not affect crime rates
3782	root	1.387	%
3783	root	1.230	[http://www.immunitysec.com/downloads/tc0.pdf]
3784			Label: "Difficulty of owning Windows vs. Difficulty to make this graph"
3785	root	1.387	%
3786	root	1.229	[rxvt-unicode (mine! :) vs. gnome-terminal :)]
3787			[http://bugs.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137864]
3788			[...]
3789			Upgrading to major: the first person to fix this (fix = performance is
3790			within a factor of 2 of rxvt-unicode for all four of the tests here) gets
3791			$50 from me, or an expensive dinner + all the beer they can handle if they
3792			ever visit Sydney, Australia ;)
3793			[...]
3794			Tagging this critical+urgent. How dare I, you ask? Doubling the reward -
3795			$100 if this is fixed (see above) before September 1, 2004. $0 after that
3796			(and I'll return it to a normal bug ;) If anyone else wants to contribute
3797			to whoever ends up fixing this, please join in..
3798	root	1.387	%
3799	root	1.228	[SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301268,00.html]
3800			[SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301538,00.html]
3801			Dass die Flimmerkiste ein beliebiges "Nullmedium" sei, beklagen
3802			Kulturkritiker von jeher. Doch nun zeigt selbst ein unvoreingenommener
3803			Blick aufs TV-Programm: Die Quote ist heilig, das Niveau sinkt auf breiter
3804			Front - auch bei ARD und ZDF. Verdummt die Na
3805	root	1.387	%
3806	root	1.226	[SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM,ed-XX1sNy0yR7p~QMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/brainleak%202004-03-02.html]
3807	root	1.227	[...] Tech savvy people will be inclining towards clicking the cancel
3808			button by default whenever they are presented a question which they don't
3809			fully understand, or didn't expect to see. Regular computer users will
3810			be inclined to press the Ok button instead, because they fear that by
3811			clicking cancel they might be causing something they don't understand not
3812			to work, something that they probably won't be able to fix afterwards
3813			anyway. If a geek fucks up somehow, he'll know what to do to fix it
3814			anyway, so there's no harm done clicking cancel. [...]
3815	root	1.387	%
3816	root	1.223	[http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/00/10/marienbad.html]
3817			I once had a postmodern intertextual moment at a drugstore bookrack when I
3818	root	1.224	picked up a paperback with the following title: Bram Stoker's Dracula:
3819	root	1.223	A Novelization Based on the Original Screenplay.
3820	root	1.387	%
3821	root	1.222	[bts show 215647]
3822			[yes, the whole thing]
3823	root	1.387	%
3824	root	1.221	[bts show 254316]
3825	root	1.247	> > The problem is not in luit, it's not in XTerm, it's not even in termcap;
3826			> > it's in the morass of complexity that some mindless jerk who'll be first
3827			> > against the wall when the revolution comes standardised as ISO 2022.
3828	root	1.221	>
3829			> ( google suggests 2022 has many fans ;-)
3830
3831			We'll use a larger wall.
3832	root	1.387	%
3833	root	1.220	[Maedhros35 about "Clockwork Orange" on IMDB]
3834			This is a movie I would not recommend even to my worst enemy. It is a
3835			horrible picture, containing too much random violence and rape committed
3836			by four no-goods in white pyjamas, than is good for anyone too watch.
3837
3838			The only fun moment is when the main character, being brainwashed into a
3839			non-violent state of mind, is being bashed by his former friends.
3840
3841			There may be some "hidden message" in this movie about society and blah,
3842			but the message (not too well brought) is completely drowned.
3843
3844			It is not even a waste of your time, it is worse than that. Avoid at all
3845			cost.
3846			["too much violence" but "the only fun moment".... What the...!?]
3847	root	1.387	%
3848	root	1.219	When searching on google for:
3849
3850	root	1.225	kakerlake schabe made
3851	root	1.219
3852			Google asked me wether I instead wanted to look for:
3853
3854	root	1.225	kakerlake _schwabe_ made
3855	root	1.387	%
3856	root	1.218	What we learned this week;
3857			"Hell is a bad place to be and renders with 8-12fps"
3858	root	1.387	%
3859	root	1.216	"Britain is one of only three countries in the world (the others are
3860			Germany and Egypt) enduring stricter censorship today than 25years ago"
3861	root	1.387	%
3862	root	1.215	[translated]
3863			23:07 <schmorp> libtool is soo broken
3864			23:07 <schmorp> ./libtool gcc-3.4 ...
3865			23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
3866			23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
3867			23:07 <schmorp> ...
3868			23:07 <schmorp> libtool --tag=ulubulu
3869			23:07 <schmorp> libtool: ignoring unknown tag ulubulu
3870			23:07 <schmorp> and it works
3871	root	1.387	%
3872	root	1.214	History does not repeat itself. Historians repeat each other.
3873			-- Lord Balfour
3874	root	1.387	%
3875	root	1.213	The whole of Mozilla is just one big focus bug.
3876	root	1.387	%
3877	root	1.212	<Beerman> When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then
3878			I realised that The Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked
3879			him to forgive me.
3880	root	1.387	%
3881	root	1.211	[slashdot]
3882			> there are currently no active, reliable ways to obtain the program listings for New Zealand television
3883
3884			I have been to NZ. You have no television.
3885	root	1.387	%
3886	root	1.210	[IMDB user about "What?" by Roman Polanski]
3887			"What?" fills the gap for those who get a kick out of 70's porn plots, but
3888			get bored during the sex scenes.
3889	root	1.387	%
3890	root	1.209	I say to you that the VCR is to the ... American public as the Boston
3891			strangler is to the woman home alone.
3892			- Jack Valenti (CEO, MPAA)
3893	root	1.387	%
3894	root	1.208	[Bruce Schneier]
3895			SP2 is an important security upgrade to Windows XP, and I hope it is
3896			widely installed among licensed XP users. I also hope it is quickly
3897			pirated, so unlicensed XP users can also install it. In order for me
3898			to remain secure on the Internet, I need everyone to become more
3899			secure. And the more people who install SP2, the more we all benefit.
3900	root	1.387	%
3901	root	1.207	[From Paul Eggert]
3902			[...] Worse, HP-UX asctime rejects any tm_year that is negative; this
3903			violates the C standard, but HP won't take my bug reports since I'm not a
3904			HP-UX customer. [...]
3905	root	1.387	%
3906	root	1.206	>>>Just curious, If I recall correctly, didn't Forth used to be FORTH?
3907			>>
3908			>>Since FORTH is not an acronym (the way BASIC, LISP, FORTRAN and C are)
3909			>>but a (deliberate) misspelling of "fourth", when it became possible to
3910			>>use LC the fashion became to do so. My book, "Scientific FORTH" (1992)
3911			>>spelled it in UC.
3912	root	1.247	>
3913			>
3914	root	1.206	> BASIC, LISP and FORTRAN are acronyms. C isn't.
3915
3916			C isn't all caps, just the initial letter.
3917	root	1.387	%
3918	root	1.205	[comp.lang.c]
3919			> According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language
3920
3921			I'm sorry, but that's like quoting Bjarne Stroustrup on correct ISO C
3922			usage.
3923
3924			Richard
3925	root	1.387	%
3926	root	1.204	I remember Elwyn Berlekamp describing what goes on at computer go
3927			tournaments (where computer programs play go against each other) - unlike
3928			at computer chess tournaments where the programs far surpass their
3929			creators, at go tournaments the creators sit there and look at a game in
3930			play and say things to each other like, "Gosh, I wonder if my program will
3931			repair that weakness before your program notices it."
3932	root	1.387	%
3933	root	1.203	21:40 <oesi> sansho: du bist kindisch. :)
3934			21:40 <sansho> oesi: das hab ich mir von dir abgeguckt
3935	root	1.387	%
3936	root	1.202	MarkD [-]: The trouble with political jokes is that some of them get elected
3937	root	1.387	%
3938	root	1.201	A coherent understanding of Philosophy will convince you that you are
3939			competent to understand the universe and achieve the human values that
3940			make life meaningful. You will know when you know something and when you
3941			don't, when you understand something and when you don't, and why. You
3942			will also realize why morality and ethics are too important to be left to
3943			anyone but yourself. You will learn that there are no shortcuts to truth,
3944			no authorities you can follow blindly, and perhaps most important, that
3945			nothing at all exists except reality. In sum, you will know what human
3946			existence means and implies.
3947
3948			[Introduction to Philosophy, Joel Katz]
3949	root	1.387	%
3950	root	1.201	> > Casts from void* are necessary in C++, not in C.
3951			>
3952			> I am aware... I'm fishing for more info! Perhaps if I reposted again and
3953			> said you were wrong I'll get more...
3954			>
3955			> You're WRONG!
3956
3957	root	1.388	void* is implicitly converted to the destination pointer type (C99 §6.3.2.3
3958			and §7.20.3.1).
3959	root	1.387	%
3960	root	1.200	From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu>
3961			In the DOS days, I had a scattering of students who really
3962			knew about computers. In the XP days, I have none.
3963	root	1.387	%
3964	root	1.199	[another variation, more useful]
3965			A. It should be obvious.
3966			Q. How is it hard?
3967			A. Because it makes it hard to follow conversations.
3968			Q. Why is top-posting bad?
3969	root	1.387	%
3970	root	1.198	[windows is a good place to learn programming]
3971			Subject: Linux c prog doesn't work on Sun Solaris Machine....?
3972
3973			Compiled using g++ on linux and then I tried to execute it on Solaris.
3974			The error message was something like "can't execute a.out"
3975
3976			- works ok on linux
3977			- ran chmod so Sun user has execute/read/etc permissions. chmod u=rwx
3978
3979			Any clues why?
3980			I am new to the non windows world.
3981
3982			Thanks
3983	root	1.387	%
3984	root	1.197	[comp.lang.c]
3985			> I want to write some data on the EEPROM of a PIC 16F877 microcontroller via
3986			> serial port rs232. What library can I use with a gcc compiler to perform
3987			> this ?
3988
3989			This is not a C question. Please try asking again in comp.arch.embedded where
3990			we will advise you to use an 8051, AVR, or MSP430 instead of the PIC.
3991	root	1.387	%
3992	root	1.196	[comp.std.c]
3993			In message <c4k0mj$fmp$1@sunnews.cern.ch>
3994			Dan.Pop@cern.ch (Dan Pop) wrote:
3995
3996			> In <nfa0k1-03l.ln1@jones.homeip.net> lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com writes:
3997	root	1.247	>
3998			> >The text of the standard only yields one reasonable interpretation.
3999			>
4000	root	1.196	> Yup, mine!
4001	root	1.387	%
4002	root	1.195	[links-2.1pre13 ChangeLog]
4003			Thu Oct 9 16:44:10 GMT 2003 mikulas:
4004
4005			Do not print 1000l on FreeBSD console on exit
4006	root	1.387	%
4007	root	1.194	[an old question, revisited]
4008			http://www.style.org/unladenswallow/
4009	root	1.387	%
4010	root	1.194	[comp.lang.c]
4011	root	1.247	> can any one translate the following codes into c++ codes,
4012	root	1.194
4013			This is comp.lang.c. We do C, not C++. We do not translate C into
4014			obfuscated languages. The good news is that your code already _is_ C++.
4015	root	1.387	%
4016	root	1.194	[comp.lang.c]
4017			I didn't say he was incorrect. I said he was an idiot.
4018	root	1.387	%
4019	root	1.193	according to babelfish "glibber" in german means "more glibber" in english :-)
4020	root	1.387	%
4021	root	1.192	[Debian Bug #163625 features one of my favourite bug report subjects:]
4022			Installing additional mozilla Debian packages
4023	root	1.247	deletes additionally installed mozilla packages
4024	root	1.387	%
4025	root	1.388	[Aus einer Werbung für dne "Windows-Berater". Es ist erschreckend, zeigt
4026			aber, das manche Maßnahmen von Microsoft völlig irreführenderweise als
4027			Sicherheitsmaßnahme verstanden und dargestellt werden. Ich frage mich, wie
4028	root	1.190	DRM in Zukunft aufgenommen und beworben werden wird...]
4029
4030	root	1.388	"Kaum angekündigt, schon ist der Registrierungsschutz geknackt"
4031	root	1.190
4032	root	1.388	Das neue Windows XP lässt sich nur mit einem besonderen Registrierungscode
4033	root	1.190	dauerhaft betreiben. Besorgt sich der Anwender diese Lizenz nicht,
4034			wird das System gesperrt. Damit sollen Raubkopien und unerlaubte
4035			Mehrfachnutzung verhindert werden. Kaum vorgestellt, knacken Hacker
4036	root	1.388	diese Verschlüsselung schon. Checklisten zeigen Ihnen, wie dieser Klau
4037			abläuft. Damit Sie sich und Ihr System vor ungebetenen Zugriffen und Viren
4038			schützen können.
4039	root	1.387	%
4040	root	1.189	[Reiner Gamma]
4041			http://www.geocities.com/kc5lei/SWIRL2001.htm
4042	root	1.387	%
4043	root	1.188	>> Asshole keep you shit out of alt.binaries.games.adult until you read
4044			[...]
4045	root	1.187	>Dude, thisi is not "alt.binaries.games.adult".
4046	root	1.188	[...]
4047	root	1.187	Yes, it is. Or, it was, till your post cut the crosspost. It was
4048			crossposted to several groups and the person you're replying to will
4049			never get your message.
4050	root	1.387	%
4051	root	1.186	[http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/doc/Details.html.pl]
4052			As this project will always run unknown binary code of proprietary W32
4053			filesystem drivers, the code can never be trusted.
4054	root	1.387	%
4055	root	1.185	[http://www.hello-penguin.com/gtm-perl/doc/Perl.html]
4056			(look at the BUGS section... very funny to read, btw., it's
4057			a sourceforge project called GT.M).
4058	root	1.387	%
4059	root	1.184	bigger things. We\\\\\\\'d be using C + asm and Hax
4060			01:15 <Sesse> we all the backslashes?
4061			01:15 <schmorp> no idea, i have these in some of my descriptions, too
4062			01:15 <schmorp> it seems that sourceofrge does " -> \" on every deascription change
4063			01:15 <Sesse> sounds like php
4064			01:15 <schmorp> i guess it's written in php
4065			01:15 <schmorp> g
4066			01:15 <Sesse> :-D
4067	root	1.387	%
4068	root	1.183	http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/
4069			[...] At the beginning I didn't expect that I would actually succeed,
4070			since I thought I would need almost half of that just for the headers. I
4071			think my first cut was 458 bytes in size. I was quite pleased with myself
4072			when I trimmed that down to less than 300 bytes, ecstatic when I finally
4073			reached the 255-byte goal, and downright triumphant when I later got it to
4074			work in 238 bytes. By the time I had a 198-byte version, I was just plain
4075			dumbfounded. It's now at 171 bytes. [...]
4076	root	1.387	%
4077	root	1.182	[http://www.mindspring.com/~kimall/Japanese/polite.html]
4078			[...] Americans didn't invent English (although the Brits will happily
4079			disown our mangled version of it! :-) ) [...]
4080	root	1.387	%
4081	root	1.181	[Eugene Spafford]
4082			During the heights of some of the recent viruses, I was discarding 30Mb of
4083			email per day -- all of it viruses. And I should point out -- viruses for
4084			Windows. There have been something like 100,000 viruses for MS operating
4085			systems, only about 50 for the Mac, and about 3 for commercial Unix
4086			systems. That difference isn't because of a difference in the prevalence
4087			of the machines -- there are basic architectural differences.
4088	root	1.387	%
4089	root	1.180	[http://MarginalHacks.com/]
4090			If you can't vi it, it sucks.
4091	root	1.387	%
4092	root	1.180	[from the somewhat outdated xterm-faq]
4093			GNOME TERMINAL
4094			[...]
4095			The documentation is fragmentary (with a comment suggesting that the
4096			author does not know where to find relevant information), and the program
4097			fares badly with vttest. [...] But it suffices for vi.
4098			[.. later]
4099			There is a variation of xvt (ancestor of rxvt) originally known as kvt
4100			bundled with KDE which may be referred to as "kterm", but I do not find it
4101			interesting, other than to comment that it was a poor choice of name.
4102	root	1.387	%
4103	root	1.179	[I love X programs]
4104			[xc/programs/xprop/xprop.c]
4105			/*
4106	root	1.247	* blip: a debugging routine. Prints Blip! on stderr with flushing.
4107	root	1.179	*/
4108			void blip()
4109	root	1.247	{
4110	root	1.179	fflush(stdout);
4111			fprintf(stderr, "blip!\n");
4112			fflush(stderr);
4113	root	1.247	}
4114	root	1.387	%
4115	root	1.178	[pavel machek commenting on a proposed patch]
4116			+ int alternative_order = 999;
4117
4118			Why not 666? :-).
4119	root	1.387	%
4120	root	1.178	[yosh on gimp-developer]
4121			It's also better to research your suggestions a little, so that they don't
4122			sound completely out there, thereby reinforcing the viewpoint that Windows
4123			users are clueless.
4124	root	1.387	%
4125	root	1.177	[modularity makes unix systems more secure]
4126			http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/36029.html
4127	root	1.387	%
4128	root	1.176	[beware german translations]
4129			dpkg: Warnung - ignoriere Kollision, kann sowieso weitermachen!
4130	root	1.387	%
4131	root	1.175	[http://www.cypherspace.org/adam/hacks/lotus-nsa-key.html, look around there]
4132			NSA's Backdoor Key from Lotus-Notes
4133	root	1.387	%
4134	root	1.174	The word "ampersand" is an alteration of the phrase "et, per se and" (that
4135			is: "et by itself [means] and"), which became corrupted to "and, per se
4136			and", and finally, ampersand.
4137	root	1.387	%
4138	root	1.173	[xc/lib/X11/lcUTF8.c]
4139			[...] We distinguish three classes of clients: [1st] [...] [2nd] Clients
4140			which accept CompoundText with multiple character sets and parse it
4141			themselves. (Example: emacs, xemacs.) [3rd] [...] In a distant future,
4142			when clients of the first and second kind will have disappeared, [...]
4143	root	1.387	%
4144	root	1.171	[linux-2.6/drivers/md/Kconfig]
4145			WARNING: RAID-6 is currently highly experimental. If you
4146			use it, there is no guarantee whatsoever that it won't
4147			destroy your data, eat your disk drives, insult your mother,
4148			or re-appoint George W. Bush.
4149	root	1.387	%
4150	root	1.170	[http://www.herodios.com/herron_tc/atsign.html]
4151			Many Finnish terms for @ are connected with cats. Not content with naming
4152			the sign for what it looks like, Finnish names it for what it looks like
4153			sounds like. In addition to "kissanhnta [cat's tail], "miau," "miumau,"
4154			and "miuku" are all "miau merkki" [meow marks] in Finnish. Other terms
4155			from Finnish include "apinanhanta" [a monkey's tail], or "hiirenhanta"
4156			[mouse's tail]. Some "computer people" use the English word "at."
4157	root	1.387	%
4158	root	1.247	17:07 <oesi> schmorp: mal ein guter kommentar auf heise zum thema "Bill tourt durch
4159	root	1.388	die USA und kündigt innovative neuentwicklungen an"
4160			17:08 <oesi> Kommentar war: "was hat er angekündigt: drive-letter in unicode?"
4161	root	1.387	%
4162	root	1.168	[Ken Lunde about his copy of KS C 5657-1991:]
4163			Here's another interesting note. My official copy of this
4164			standard has all of its 2,856 hanja hand-written.
4165	root	1.387	%
4166	root	1.172	[cvs, while checking in changes to uunet's radiusd]
4167	root	1.168	confused about file platform.h -- ignoring
4168	root	1.387	%
4169	root	1.167	[http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/02/24/1011245.shtml]
4170	root	1.247	And most likely, the FBI didn't tell the hosting company exactly what it
4171			is they wanted. When the Feds come in with a search warrant, they don't
4172			ask for your help. They say, "stand aside" and commence
4173	root	1.167	%
4174	root	1.166	http://www.bash.org/?178890
4175	root	1.387	%
4176	root	1.165	[http://www.bash.org/?75016]
4177			<ig3l\|Guel> If Osama B. isn't in Afghanistan, and if he isn't dead, we believe he is in another country" - US army General
4178	root	1.387	%
4179	root	1.247	00:56 <oesi> ulpfr: ich schrieb mal einen kompletten mailer in emacs, weil mir rmail
4180			nicht gefallen hat. man wird aelter und reifer und droppt dann emacs
4181	root	1.164	einfach :)
4182			00:56 <ulpfr> Weichei
4183	root	1.387	%
4184	root	1.163	[spca50x.sourceforge.net]
4185			/*
4186			* Function compares two strings.
4187	root	1.247	* Return offset in pussy where prick ends if "prick" may penetrate
4188	root	1.163	* int "pussy" like prick into pussy, -1 otherwise.
4189			*/
4190			static inline int match(const char* prick, const char* pussy, int len2)
4191			{
4192			int len1 = strlen(prick); //length of male string
4193			[...]
4194	root	1.387	%
4195	root	1.163	http://www.leckse.net/profilieren/chat
4196	root	1.387	%
4197	root	1.388	rohw, schleymig und formlos Fleisch wie di Schleuch eines Tündenfischs
4198	root	1.387	%
4199	root	1.162	[rxvt-*/src/init.[cC]]
4200			/* grab colors before netscape does */
4201			Get_Colours ();
4202	root	1.387	%
4203	root	1.388	[oesi über apache-2.0]
4204	root	1.160	03:10 <oesi> ist mir egal, ich fahre alle 24h den apache runter...
4205			03:10 <oesi> ich fahre praktisch das 1.3er config-file. das gibt sicherheit :)
4206			03:11 <oesi> ich kann apache nicht stoppen.
4207			03:11 <oesi> apachectl stop
4208			03:11 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
4209			03:11 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
4210			03:12 <oesi> wie konnte ich den starten?
4211			03:12 <schmorp> rofl
4212	root	1.161	[...]
4213			03:29 <oesi> es ist kein scherz. wirklich:
4214			03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl sslstart
4215			03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl stop
4216			03:29 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
4217			03:29 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
4218	root	1.387	%
4219	root	1.159	[http://www.jmarshall.com/tools/cgiproxy/]
4220			[...] Here's a demo (username "free", password "speech") [...]
4221	root	1.387	%
4222	root	1.158	[rxvt/src/screen.C]
4223			#ifdef DEBUG_STRICT
4224	root	1.247	assert(screen.cur.row >= 0);
4225	root	1.158	#else /* drive with your eyes closed */
4226			MAX_IT(screen.cur.row, 0);
4227			#endif
4228	root	1.387	%
4229	root	1.157	[http://www.mine-control.com/zack/timesync/timesync.html]
4230			[...] Also, anecdotal evidence from network programmers suggests that the
4231			UDP implementation under Win32 is unstable and overly-unreliable. [...]
4232	root	1.387	%
4233	root	1.156	> > Ceterum censeo \| PGP encrypted mail preferred.
4234			> > Redmond esse delendam. \| PGP Key at www.MPA-Garching.MPG.de/~nog/
4235			>
4236			> Willkomme im Club .... :-)))
4237
4238			Danke - ich bin schon lange dabei... ;-)
4239			--
4240			OpenVMS @ 25 \| Martin Vorlaender \| VMS & WNT programmer
4241	root	1.387	%
4242	root	1.388	Um die Jahrhundertwende erfand ein Mann namens Friedolin Tär einen
4243			IQ-Test, der die Gesamtpersönlichkeit sehr stark miteinbezog.
4244			Charakterstärke, Grosszügigkeit, flexibles Denken etc. wurden also
4245			mitbewertet. Die Skala mit der Maßeinheit "Tär" wies ein großes Spektrum
4246			auf. Ärzte, Wissenschaftler erreichen IQ's im Megatär-Bereich. Der
4247			Durchschnittsmensch weist einige Kilotär auf. Nach unten gibt es Dezitär,
4248			Centitär... und schießlich Mil(l)itär...
4249	root	1.387	%
4250	root	1.154	http://senseis.xmp.net/?GetStrongAtGote
4251			http://users.skynet.be/rexburton/ritchie.htm
4252	root	1.387	%
4253	root	1.153	Subject: [Swsusp-devel] 2.6.1: It could go faster if I didn't have egg on my face.
4254	root	1.387	%
4255	root	1.153	"It's not Hollywood. War is real, war is primarily not about defeat or
4256			victory, it is about death. I've seen thousands and thousands of dead
4257			bodies. Do you think I want to have an academic debate on this subject?"
4258			-- Robert Fisk
4259	root	1.387	%
4260	root	1.151	[the satellite death spiral: why spacecraft are unnecessarily expensive]
4261			http://www.dynacon.ca/pdf/files/newspdf_63.pdf
4262	root	1.152	[see also the small satellites homepage]
4263			http://centaur.sstl.co.uk/SSHP/
4264	root	1.387	%
4265	root	1.150	[http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/files/lec_lev.htm]
4266			"Anthropologists concur that America is an exceedingly 'low-touch,'
4267			high-violence culture"
4268			[...]
4269			"[...] Republican members of the House of Representatives called for the
4270			resignation of Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders, whose transgression was to
4271			suggest, in response to a question following a speech to sex educators,
4272			that masturbation was an appropriate subject for classroom discussion.
4273			This remark, according to one congressman, was part of a social movement
4274			that was "killing the moral fiber of America" and just one symptom of
4275			a decline also manifested in reckless driving, an indecisive military
4276			policy-dubbed "mission creep," and homosexuals in the Boy Scouts." [...]
4277
4278			Masturbation is an absolute taboo in the US. Many adults still think that
4279			they are the only ones who do such dirty things.
4280	root	1.387	%
4281	root	1.150	From: <[...]@aol.com>
4282			Subject: Re: [...]
4283
4284			Marc wrote on 1/7/2004, 6:57 AM:
4285
4286			> Congrats. No kidding, you are the first person @aol that ever sent me a
4287			> sensible mail. I was planning to reject mail from aol.com right away
4288			> since (in the last 8 years at least), nothing good came from there, but you
4289			> saved it :)
4290
4291			Yeah, I get that a lot, but you've got to know that .aol.com email
4292			addresses are also used by the people who work for AOL (cough, cough :).
4293			[...]
4294	root	1.387	%
4295	root	1.150	From: Alan Cox
4296			> The code to disable prefetch on Athlon is 300 bytes and hurts your PIV?
4297			> Really? I'll dig back through the code, but I recall it as adding or
4298			> deleting an entry in a table to enable prefetch. If it's affecting PIV the
4299			> code to use prefetch is seriously broken.
4300
4301			Big time. Its over 300 bytes long because its embedded in each inline
4302			prefetch and it causes a branch misprediction almost every time. Amazing
4303			what you find when you actually measure stuff 8)
4304			[...]
4305	root	1.387	%
4306	root	1.150	http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4307	root	1.387	%
4308	root	1.150	http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4309	root	1.387	%
4310	root	1.150	http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4311	root	1.387	%
4312	root	1.149	[FYI: java was officially announced in 1995, and certainly didn't exist
4313			even as a concept before 1991. It's interesting how many people nowadays
4314			claim to have decades of java experience]
4315			On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:11:54AM -0500, Robert Soros <robert@soros.ca> wrote:
4316			> I am extremely excited about your ideas to fix freenet and would be
4317			> willing to plug your code into fred (I have fourteen years java
4318			> programming experience.) Could you provide a link to your code? What
4319	root	1.387	%
4320	root	1.149	http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4321	root	1.387	%
4322	root	1.149	http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4323	root	1.387	%
4324	root	1.149	http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4325	root	1.387	%
4326	root	1.147	[in a private discussion about some potential problem that would cause]
4327			[mail not to be delivered]
4328			> > On the other hand, I see the same in some mail from RMS.
4329	root	1.247	>
4330	root	1.147	> Well, just because rms does it does not mean... :)
4331
4332			My point is that the FSF is unlikely to install something that
4333			bounces RMS's mail, at least, not for long.
4334	root	1.387	%
4335	root	1.147	On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Piers Cawley wrote:
4336
4337			> David Cantrell <david@cantrell.org.uk> writes:
4338			>
4339			> > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 11:16:52AM -0500, Tommie M. Jones wrote:
4340			> >> Anyone know of any perl software that does resume parsing.
4341			> >
4342			> > I don't think anyone has implemented continuations in perl, so I fail
4343			> > to see how you can have resumes. Or are you trying to parse some other
4344			> > language which does support this?
4345			>
4346
4347			Just because we share a language does not mean we understand each other.
4348
4349			In America there are two meanings for resume. One being to continue the
4350			other the equivalent of what ya'll call a CV (I think though I've never
4351			heard the term before) In the second definition resume is pronounced with
4352			a short u. I think there is a "`" in the proper spelling of the word but
4353			since Americans are not use to using punctuation in their words (other
4354			than to show ownership and contractions) it is usually loss.
4355	root	1.387	%
4356	root	1.147	echo $package has manual pages available in source form.
4357			echo "However, you don't have nroff, so they're probably useless to you."
4358			--Larry Wall in Configure from the perl distribution
4359	root	1.387	%
4360	root	1.146	AFTER 30 years of "daylight saving" - moving the clocks forward in the
4361			spring and then back again in the autumn - there is still an Abolish
4362			Daylight Saving Committee in New South Wales, Australia.
4363
4364			Added to the usual claims of such campaigns - for example, that the
4365			extra hour of daylight in the evening in summer fades the curtains - is
4366			a new one from ADSC spokeswoman Judith Hall, of Gunnedah, who told the
4367			Sydney Morning Herald: "No man has the right to choose the time of the
4368			rising and setting of the sun, only God."
4369
4370			Reader John McCallum, who told us about this, is surprised Hall doesn't
4371			explain why God doesn't simply exercise this choice. When people insist
4372			on moving their clocks forward, He should just move the sunrise forward
4373			and thwart them that way.
4374	root	1.387	%
4375	root	1.146	[Defect Report #205 to ISO-C]
4376			There was a unanimous vote that the feature is ugly, and a good consensus
4377			that its incorporation into the standard at the 11th hour was an
4378			unfortunate decision.
4379	root	1.387	%
4380	root	1.247	02:23 <oesi> Breaking News: SCO stellt per Wahrsager Codeklau in HURD in einem Jahr
4381	root	1.146	fest ;)
4382	root	1.387	%
4383	root	1.146	[http://www.unicode.org/standard/WhatIsUnicode.html]
4384
4385			Last updated: - Invalid Date
4386	root	1.387	%
4387	root	1.146	http://www.bash.org/?99060
4388	root	1.387	%
4389	root	1.145	[IZ-Buzzword-Bullshit-Bingo]
4390			http://www.l13.de/it/ibbb.html
4391	root	1.387	%
4392	root	1.144	Q: What is the state of the object after its lifetime has ended?
4393
4394			A: As a well-known software guru[3] once put it, speaking about a
4395			similar code fragment and anthropomorphically referring to the
4396			local object as a "he":
4397
4398			"He's not pining! He's passed on! This parrot is no more! He
4399			has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker!
4400			He's a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn't
4401			nailed him to the perch he'd be pushing up the daisies! His
4402			metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's
4403			kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down
4404			the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible! THIS IS AN
4405			EX-PARROT!"
4406
4407			- Dr. M. Python, BMath, MASc, PhD (CompSci)
4408	root	1.387	%
4409	root	1.144	[ach du schande]
4410			"pflichtpfandfrei"
4411	root	1.387	%
4412	root	1.142	[a comment on the demonstrations against bush in london]
4413			The police will shoot you.
4414
4415			OK, that's not strictly true. The CIA will shoot you. Then the police will
4416			arrest the CIA. Then American troops will invade.
4417
4418	root	1.247	Just another average day in central London.
4419	root	1.387	%
4420	root	1.141	[this signature gave me a laugh...]
4421			[...]even better is if there is a system function that sends out an arp
4422			reply.
4423
4424			pls. cc my email address
4425
4426			tia
4427			pd
4428
4429
4430	root	1.247	--
4431	root	1.141	^X^C
4432			q
4433			quit
4434			:q
4435			^C
4436			end
4437			x
4438			exit
4439			ZZ
4440			^D
4441			?
4442			help
4443			shit
4444			.
4445	root	1.387	%
4446	root	1.140	* muppet also hates bloatus notes. it doesn't need vnc to make it slow.
4447	root	1.387	%
4448	root	1.140	[From the File::Spec manpage on catdir]
4449			Concatenate two or more directory names to form a complete path ending
4450			with a directory. But remove the trailing slash from the resulting string,
4451			because it doesn't look good, isn't necessary and confuses OS2. [...]
4452	root	1.387	%
4453	root	1.140	[I love it]
4454			http://www.swindonweb.com/life/lifemagi0.htm
4455			http://www.armin-grewe.com/holiday/wiltshire/swindon-roundabout.htm
4456	root	1.387	%
4457	root	1.139	"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they go by."
4458			- Douglas Adams
4459	root	1.387	%
4460	root	1.138	Bill Gates is repeating the mantra that users are to blame for insecure
4461			PCs, in an interview with a Canadian newspaper. This refrain is familiar
4462			to the INQUIRER: Gates said more or less the same thing when he addressed
4463			an Assembly of CEOs in Berlin a few weeks ago.
4464
4465	root	1.247	The chief software architect (CSA.'.) told IT Business that perfect code
4466			wasn't the answer to security problems, but firewalls and keeping the
4467			software up to date were more important. The problems that have occurred
4468			this year wouldn't have happened if firms and individuals had set up
4469			their software properly.
4470	root	1.138
4471			He also claims in the article that Microsoft has always had security
4472			patches out before the exploits happened. Developers were also to blame
4473			because they didn't understand the application program interfaces, Gates
4474			told the publication.
4475
4476	root	1.247	And he also claimed that all forms of Unix and Linux have a greater
4477			number of vulnerabilities than Microsoft but don't spread as much because
4478			"they're not as dense" as Windows. Low volume software is hit by
4479			malicious people, high volume software, that is Windows, is hit by people
4480			who want visibility and glory.
4481	root	1.387	%
4482	root	1.137	[In the FAQ for a bootp client:]
4483
4484			o You are using --server to point to a server which doesn't run a bootp server
4485
4486			x Try not using it.
4487	root	1.387	%
4488	root	1.136	[http://www.politicalpulpit.com/Luke/LukeArchive0403.htm]
4489			The facts are simple: In Lynn, MA Principal of the Lynn English High
4490			School, Andrew Fila refused to allow teacher of English, Jeremy McKeen,
4491			to show the disputed film in his classes. McKeen had already submitted
4492			Moore's opus to his Department Head, Jane Balesta, for approval which she
4493			had given.
4494
4495			Said Fila, "I just pulled it. This is not the time nor the place to be
4496			showing something like that. The producer (Moore) is also an anti war
4497			person as well."
4498	root	1.387	%
4499	root	1.136	[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0254686/]
4500	root	1.388	"Ich habe keine Gefühle, merken sie sich das, Walter. Und wenn ich welche
4501			habe, werden sie nie über meine Intelligenz siegen".
4502	root	1.387	%
4503	root	1.388	["Was ist ein Kopierschutz überhaupt?"]
4504	root	1.135	[http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,270719,00.html]
4505	root	1.134
4506			Damit entspricht Windows der Definition eines illegalen Tools zur Umgehung
4507	root	1.388	des Kopierschutzes und müsste vom Markt genommen werden.
4508	root	1.135	[...]
4509	root	1.134	Das Bundesjustizministerium ist der Auffassung, dass die Frage nur durch
4510	root	1.388	ein Gericht zu klären sei. Das Programm "Windows" kenne man zu wenig.
4511	root	1.135	[...]
4512			Handelt es sich bei Windows also rechtlich um das Abwehren einer Straftat
4513			oder um das illegale Aushebeln eines Kopierschutzverfahrens?
4514	root	1.387	%
4515	root	1.134	http://www.nature.com/nsu/021209/021209-10.html#b1
4516	root	1.387	%
4517	root	1.132	[A document] Written to answer the often asked question about the requirements
4518			on the kernel to get a POSIX compliant thread implementation. And I don't
4519			mean an implementation like this horrible implementation from IBM.
4520			-- Ulrich Drepper
4521	root	1.387	%
4522	root	1.131	GCC generates truly horrible code when no optimization is enabled.
4523			-- Ulrich Drepper
4524	root	1.387	%
4525	root	1.131	Most programmers think that the programs they write are fairly well
4526			written and perform as good as possible. In most cases this is not
4527	root	1.133	correct. -- Ulrich Drepper
4528	root	1.387	%
4529	root	1.130	Even though I cannot accept the rejection of fair use rights by the film
4530			and music industry I cannot endorse piracy.
4531			-- Ulrich Drepper
4532	root	1.387	%
4533	root	1.130	Never say "PIC Code"!. This is duplication.
4534			-- Ulrich Drepper
4535	root	1.387	%
4536	root	1.129	[http://www.ffk.co.at/programme_ffksnetmanager.asp]
4537	root	1.388	Ping und Netsend laufen jetzt über die Windows API, daher schneller und
4538			zuverlässiger
4539	root	1.387	%
4540	root	1.129	[comment from linux/drivers/block/floppy.c]
4541			/*
4542			* 1999/08/13 -- Paul Slootman -- floppy stopped working on Alpha after 24
4543			* days, 6 hours, 32 minutes and 32 seconds (i.e. MAXINT jiffies; ints were
4544			* being used to store jiffies, which are unsigned longs).
4545			*/
4546	root	1.387	%
4547	root	1.128	[Microsoft creates a problem and inspires an industry to work around it.
4548			Just Great. Also learn about Microsoft Logic(tm): DLL's save memory, so
4549			you need to use them. But please use your own private versions of all your
4550			dlls so that they aren't shared...]
4551			http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnsetup/html/dlldanger1.asp
4552	root	1.387	%
4553	root	1.128	[http://lorrie.cranor.org/pubs/drm03.html]
4554			Pirating Movies
4555
4556			[...] The attackers aren't DVD owners making illegal copies and putting
4557			them on file sharing networks. The attackers are industry insiders making
4558			illegal copies long before the DVD is ever on the market.
4559	root	1.387	%
4560	root	1.128	[Look at the time scale...]
4561			http://www.networm.org/graphics/worm-progression.Sep03.pdf
4562	root	1.387	%
4563	root	1.127	[Just funny]
4564			http://www.zug.com/pranks/turnpike/
4565	root	1.387	%
4566	root	1.127	[http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,60391,00.html]
4567			The CEO of Symantec is advocating "legislation to criminalize the
4568			sharing of information and tools online that can be used by malicious
4569			hackers and virus writers." Doesn't he realize that most of his
4570			company's engineers would end up in jail?
4571	root	1.387	%
4572	root	1.126	[http://top40-charts.com/artist.php?aid=1145]
4573			Why is it you forgive Bush for saying "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET OSAMA".
4574			and "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET SADDAM". "I GUARANTEE THERE ARE WMD'S" etc
4575			etc. Yet now he could care less about them? Of course, Clinton lies about
4576			sex and that's a huge deal(not that i am justifying what Bubba did)
4577
4578			Why is it when the marines stormed in, they protected the oil fields but
4579			left all the other resources of Iraq to be looted?
4580
4581			Why is it that the White House doesn't want to release information on
4582			9/11, and only gave the investigation a $3 million budget?(it took $70
4583			million to find out Clinton got a BJ, and that's all they found out for
4584			$70 million!!). Meanwhile, even with a pathetic budget, the WH stonewalls
4585			the investigating committee. It's not enough for the WH to just underfund
4586			them, theyve got to make sure they can't get to any usefull information in
4587			the first place!
4588	root	1.387	%
4589	root	1.247	Buying a Unix machine guarantees you a descent into Hell. It starts when
4590			you plug the computer in and it won't boot. Yes, they really did sell you
4591			a $10,000 computer with an unformatted disk drive.
4592	root	1.125	-- Philip Greenspun
4593	root	1.387	%
4594	root	1.124	"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we
4595			don't believe in it at all." -- Noam Chomsky
4596	root	1.387	%
4597	root	1.124	"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right
4598			to say it." -- not actually from Voltaire
4599	root	1.387	%
4600	root	1.123	"Our ability to innovate is predicated on our ability to own the
4601			platform."
4602			[Kirk Koenigsbauer, strategy manager at Microsoft's MSN]
4603	root	1.387	%
4604	root	1.123	Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
4605			waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is that
4606			frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses
4607			and you can sitll raed it wiuthoit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not
4608			raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.
4609	root	1.320	[http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/personal/matt.davis/Cmabrigde/]
4610	root	1.387	%
4611	root	1.123	[The world is getting saner and saner. The whole world? No....]
4612			http://avirubin.com/vote.pdf
4613	root	1.387	%
4614	root	1.123	[http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1210067,00.asp]
4615			So what actually happens when your Windows XP machine crashes and asks
4616			if you want to send a report? The reports obviously accumulate in some
4617			database, and I can only assume that when one bin piles up with similar
4618			crash memos, the coders get to work. Exactly how many notifications does
4619			Microsoft get? Nobody knows for sure, but based on comments Bill Gates
4620			made at a recent meeting for analysts, the number must be astronomical.
4621			Gates said that 5 percent of Windows machines crash, on average, twice
4622			daily.
4623	root	1.387	%
4624	root	1.123	"...vielleicht praktisch manchmal auch mal geraten, das, wenn auch mal..."
4625	root	1.388	[Johann Gärtner, "Die Republikaner" bei einer Fernsehsendung über ihr
4626			Wahlprogramm. Das Zitat ist repräsentativ.]
4627	root	1.387	%
4628	root	1.123	[http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/rbt/condemn_text.htm]
4629			Critics of Congress and APA's concessions have analogized this situation
4630			to that of Galileo. At the APA's annual convention in August 1999 in
4631			Boston, an anonymous source, unknown to us, posted stickers around the
4632			convention that satirically read, "If the US Congress says that 'The sun
4633			revolves around the earth,' then that fact will be given most careful
4634			consideration in all articles published by the APA."
4635	root	1.387	%
4636	root	1.247	"It is insufficient to protect ourselves with laws; we need to protect ourselves with mathematics."
4637	root	1.123	-- Bruce Schneier
4638	root	1.387	%
4639	root	1.123	[it took me over 7 minutes to find this movie again on imdb...]
4640			[...so it must be good]
4641			http://german.imdb.com/title/tt0072131/
4642	root	1.387	%
4643	root	1.123	[mplayer/libmpcodecs/ad_realaud.c]
4644			[real uses a novel protection scheme...]
4645			raSetPwd(sh->context,"Ardubancel Quazanga"); // set password... lol.
4646	root	1.387	%
4647	root	1.120	[D-Info 3/2003 Database Dump]
4648			I've written a script that dumps the D-Info 2003 database as tsv to stdout.
4649			No idea why I announce it here...
4650	root	1.121	http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/data/dump-dinfo
4651	root	1.387	%
4652	root	1.119	[Oh My God!]
4653			Subject: aic7(censored) use after free in 2.5.66
4654	root	1.387	%
4655	root	1.119	[How many squares are on a go-board?]
4656	root	1.118	http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=UTF-8&client=googlet&selm=16394336.74521.15271%40kcbbs.gen.nz&rnum=2
4657	root	1.387	%
4658	root	1.117	[http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,1020303,00.html]
4659			When I first visited Russia, in 1986, I made friends with a musician whose
4660			father had been Brezhnev's personal doctor. One day we were talking about
4661			life during 'the period of stagnation' - the Brezhnev era. 'It must have
4662			been strange being so completely immersed in propaganda,' I said.
4663
4664			'Ah, but there is the difference. We knew it was propaganda,' replied
4665			Sacha.
4666	root	1.387	%
4667	root	1.116	[From CRYPTO-GRAM]
4668			A reader sent in this conversation he overheard at a corporate security
4669			desk one morning:
4670
4671			Employee: I have lost my photo-ID card, can I get a day pass please?
4672
4673			Security Guard: Certainly, what is your serial number?
4674
4675			Employee: 123456
4676
4677			[Security guard pulls up the details on his computer, which includes a
4678			photograph of the employee.]
4679
4680			Security Guard: Do you have a driver's license or another piece of
4681			identification which has your picture on it?
4682
4683			Employee: Why would you need that?
4684
4685			Security Guard: To match against our records.
4686
4687			Employee: A picture of my face?
4688
4689			Security Guard: Yes
4690
4691			Employee: This is my face -- I am wearing it on my head.
4692
4693			Security Guard: I need another piece of ID with a picture on it to
4694			compare against this one.
4695	root	1.387	%
4696	root	1.116	[Voting in the US might be in for surprises in the future]
4697			http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/voting.shtml
4698			[frankly, I don't trust any government if it's easy to fake votes]
4699	root	1.387	%
4700	root	1.116	MS Windows passwords can be cracked in an average of 13.6 seconds.
4701			Assuming your password consists of just letters and numbers, that is. But
4702			my guess is that almost everyone falls into that category.
4703
4704			<http://news.com.com/2100-1009_3-5053063.html>
4705			<http://lasecpc13.epfl.ch/ntcrack/>
4706	root	1.387	%
4707	root	1.123	Eppur si muove!
4708	root	1.387	%
4709	root	1.116	[bwahahaha]
4710			"RV K-17"
4711	root	1.387	%
4712	root	1.116	"We're the world's greatest superpower, but we have a Third World
4713			electricity grid," said New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson.
4714	root	1.387	%
4715	root	1.116	[where NOT to learn german :)]
4716			[http://www.berlitz.at/worldclub/reise-spanisch/]
4717			<= Es ist 10:45 Uhr / viertel vor elf / dreiviertel zehn.
4718			=> Son las once menos cuarto.
4719	root	1.387	%
4720	root	1.115	ceterum censeo carthaginem esse delendam
4721			ceterum censeo mundum non delendum esse
4722	root	1.387	%
4723	root	1.115	[http://www.urheberrecht.org/news/?id=1402&w=&p=1]
4724	root	1.388	Georgia Tornow, Generalsekretärin der Produzentenvereinigung film20 übt
4725			ebenfalls Kritik an der neuen Formulierung. »In anderen Ländern ist
4726	root	1.115	mitunter die Herstellung privater Kopien untersagt. Und in den USA wird
4727	root	1.388	sogar darüber nachgedacht, Geräte zur Kopienherstellung für illegal zu
4728			erklären«, so Tornow laut »blickpunktfilm.de«.
4729	root	1.387	%
4730	root	1.122	http://www.plif.com/archive/wc285.gif
4731	root	1.387	%
4732	root	1.115	[D-Info 2003, on my box:]
4733			Linux-Distribution nicht erkannt. Koennte RedHat sein.
4734	root	1.387	%
4735	root	1.115	[This patch removed the 75 records limit in D-Info 3/2003 linux for me]
4736			[patch dinfo.i386, YMMV]
4737			<00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba 4b00 0000 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
4738			>00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba ffff ff7f 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
4739	root	1.387	%
4740	root	1.115	[bwbasic-2.20pl2/bwbasic.doc]
4741			This program was originally begun in 1982 by my grandmother, Mrs.
4742			Verda Spell of Beaumont, TX. She was writing the program using
4743			an ANSI C compiler on an Osborne I CP/M computer and although my
4744			grandfather (Lockwood Spell) had bought an IBM PC with 256k of
4745			RAM my grandmother would not use it, paraphrasing George Herbert
4746			to the effect that "He who cannot in 64k program, cannot in 512k."
4747			She had used Microsoft BASIC and although she had nothing against
4748			it she said repeatedly that she didn't understand why Digital
4749			Research didn't "sue the socks off of Microsoft" for version 1.0
4750			of MSDOS and so I reckon that she hoped to undercut Microsoft's
4751			entire market and eventually build a new software empire on
4752			the North End of Beaumont. Her programming efforts were cut
4753			tragically short when she was thrown from a Beaumont to Port
4754			Arthur commuter train in the summer of 1986. I found the source
4755			code to bwBASIC on a single-density Osborne diskette in her knitting
4756			bag and eventually managed to have it all copied over to a PC
4757			diskette. I have revised it slightly prior to this release. You
4758			should know, though, that I myself am an historian, not a programmer.
4759	root	1.387	%
4760	root	1.114	[what high dan players in go think while playing:]
4761			"Must kill ... black stones ... black stones ... must die"
4762	root	1.387	%
4763	root	1.114	[the one and only time rcp failed for me, at the very end of the transfer]
4764			rcp: protocol screwup: mtime.sec not delimited
4765	root	1.387	%
4766	root	1.113	[Wasteland]
4767			Lester Moore,
4768			Shot in the head with a .44.
4769			No Les, no more.
4770	root	1.387	%
4771	root	1.113	[SSK@DFpkjvKWA0kGPZUgm9LkJE1jX4cPAgM/MattersPhallic/4//]
4772			Mormon advice on how to abstain from wanking
4773
4774			STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION
4775			[for the rest of this entertaining document see the freesite]
4776	root	1.387	%
4777	root	1.113	[Fallout]
4778			Here lies the body of Jonathan Blake
4779			Stepped on the gas instead of the brake
4780	root	1.387	%
4781	root	1.111	[http://www.counterpane.com/pptpv2-paper.html]
4782			As we will discuss later, multiple layers of hashing are used in the
4783			different steps of MS-CHAPv2. While this hashing serves to obscure some
4784			of the values, it is unclear what the cryptographic significance of them
4785			are. All they seem to do is to slow down the execution of the protocol.
4786	root	1.112	[...]
4787			It is unclear to us why this protocol is so complicated.
4788			[...]
4789			The Server concatenates the password-hash-hash, the 24-byte NT response,
4790			and the literal string "Magic server to client constant", and then hashes
4791			the result with SHA.
4792	root	1.387	%
4793	root	1.388	> Für viele wird interessant sein, dass ich bisher bei jedem Kunden
4794	root	1.111	> rechnerisch nachweisen konnte, dass OpenSource !immer! der teurere Weg
4795			> ist!
4796	root	1.388	Das bedeutet, daß durch Offenlegung des Source Codes eines Produkts
4797			plötzlich höhere Aufwände entstehen? Was für ein Kundensegment betreust
4798	root	1.111	Du denn? Analphabeten?
4799	root	1.387	%
4800	root	1.388	"Der Sun-Forte-Compiler ist näher am C++-Standard als G++"
4801			[Jörg Schilling, CeBit 2003]
4802	root	1.387	%
4803	root	1.109	17:21 <elmex> ok, sex kann ich nicht, aber ich kann vim und Perl ;)
4804	root	1.387	%
4805	root	1.108	[Biggest ping rtt I've ever seen]
4806			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=473 ttl=128 time=779.5 ms
4807			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=474 ttl=128 time=524.1 ms
4808			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=475 ttl=128 time=275.6 ms
4809			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=539 ttl=128 time=656365.4 ms
4810			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=540 ttl=128 time=655365.5 ms
4811	root	1.387	%
4812	root	1.108	[I once used a vped.conf from windows on linux, and then had to:]
4813			tcpdump -eni\\\\.\\{F2CB3DC8-1
4814	root	1.387	%
4815	root	1.107	[links are free ;)]
4816			http://knowthetruth.b0x.com/Bush_Family/Bush_-_Hitler/bush_-_hitler.html
4817	root	1.387	%
4818	root	1.106	[http://pobox.com/~oleg/MacHack96/]
4819			Can software development be elevated from the Microsoft style?
4820	root	1.387	%
4821	root	1.105	[openssl, crypto/evp/evp_enc.c]
4822
4823			/* One positive side-effect of US's export
4824			* control history, is that we should at least
4825			* be able to avoid using US mispellings of
4826			* "initialisation"? */
4827			EVPerr(EVP_F_EVP_CIPHERINIT, EVP_R_INITIALIZATION_ERROR);
4828	root	1.387	%
4829	root	1.105	[man pem]
4830			Although the PEM routines take several arguments in almost all applications most of them are set to 0 or NULL.
4831	root	1.387	%
4832	root	1.105	[pth_native.c]
4833
4834			/* ``If you can't do it in
4835	root	1.247	ANSI C, it isn't worth doing.''
4836	root	1.105	-- Unknown */
4837	root	1.387	%
4838	root	1.104	[subculture]
4839	root	1.388	... scorp sind lucker und use script lamer aber über cheater aufregen
4840			mehr nich und zu fünft in nem raum sitzen und dann public zocken und dann
4841	root	1.104	skillig vorkommen ...
4842
4843			[http://forum.topwebmaster.net/extern/de/Ricoohh/thread/9196-77365]
4844	root	1.424	%
4845	root	1.104	[back to the roots. you might not understand the following, but
4846			this list is about things _I_ find funny, not you... :)]
4847	root	1.247	00:16 <elmex> 'mit windows netzwerk zu debuggen ist ungefaehr so sinnvoll wie eine
4848	root	1.104	gehirnoperation mit einem vorschlaghammer'
4849	root	1.247	00:18 <oesi> elmex: da ich in deinem ignore bin, kann ich ja volltrottel sagen.
4850	root	1.104	ethereal rennt seit jahren unter win32
4851			00:18 <elmex> oesi: ja, aber netzwerk nicht ;)
4852	root	1.387	%
4853	root	1.103	[http://home.rhein-zeitung.de/~cknust/detroit/a-z/medikamt.htm]
4854	root	1.388	... Den Amerikanern sind Zäpfchen ebenso wie rektales Fiebermessen absolut
4855			suspekt; der Verdacht der Kinderschändung steht sofort unausgesprochen im
4856			Raum. Zäpfchen ("Suppositorium") werden allenfalls in der Notfallmedizin
4857	root	1.103	im Krankenhaus verwendet. Haben Sie ein Kind, das an Asthma oder
4858	root	1.388	Pseudo-Krupp-Anfällen leidet, bringen Sie sich einen entsprechenden Vorrat
4859			an Zäpfchen unbedingt mit, erwähnen Sie diese aber, soweit möglich, nicht
4860			vor amerikanischen Ärzten. ...
4861	root	1.387	%
4862	root	1.102	sendmail ist wie masturbation mit einer gurkenraspel, erzeugt viele spaene
4863			aber wenig freude.
4864	root	1.387	%
4865	root	1.102	[from a deviance.nfo, looking for new members, I think it's waaay funny]
4866			- you are a Unix guru with good Ansi-C software developing knowledge
4867			and understanding how to prevent network security vulnerabilities.
4868			That means you must be able to code to ansi-c guru level. And you
4869			must also have a good coder perspective of hostbase and network
4870			based intrusion detection systems. You should be able to code tools
4871			to generically prevent stack and heap buffer overflows on unix in
4872			Ansi-C. And Be able to code tools to look after a group of systems
4873			and code sniffing avoidance tools. And you can configure a system
4874			in ways to prevent packet sniffers and "man in the middle" attacks.
4875	root	1.387	%
4876	root	1.388	17:39 <schmorp> marco: flüge von hannover/dortmund [nach sofia] etc. sind glatt
4877			doppelt so teuer wie die gleichen von stuttgart/münchen/frankfurt
4878	root	1.101	17:39 <marco> schmorp: da wollen zu viele weg und zu wenig hin... also sind die
4879			fluege dort nur halb ausgelastet g
4880	root	1.387	%
4881	root	1.100	For me, this article simply illustrates that centralised trust models
4882			don't work well in practise.
4883			http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/12/09/021209opwinman.xml
4884	root	1.387	%
4885	root	1.99	[Rumsfeld in a CNN interview]
4886			There is an old saying, in the pentagon:
4887			"ready, fire, aim."
4888	root	1.387	%
4889	root	1.98	[...] You're allowed to resell the [windows] media but not the
4890			license. "Unfortunately" for Microsoft, this distinction is illegal in
4891			free countries like Germany [1].
4892			[...]
4893			Regards
4894			Henning
4895
4896			[1] The current german governement is actively trying to change this
4897			part of the german law. That's what you get for electing morons who
4898			might look good on TV. At this point, we're already on U.S. levels.
4899	root	1.387	%
4900	root	1.98	[...]
4901			The GPL does not restrict you. Contrary, it uses copyright law to
4902			establish a pool of software with much more freedom as copyright law gives
4903			to you. It only does not give you so much freedom to deny other people the
4904			same freedoms. The copyright holders can only do so, because copyright law
4905			itself give you none of these rights at all.
4906			[...]
4907			Wolfgang Walter
4908	root	1.387	%
4909	root	1.98	burro: i once played against a computer
4910			burro: it seemed very clever
4911			burro: but then all its groups died in yose
4912			burro: it forgot to defend later..
4913			burro: oops
4914			burro: accidental poetry
4915	root	1.387	%
4916	root	1.98	[about a go game between a pro player and some really good amateur,
4917			where white could have lived easily but decided to risk it]
4918			yoyoma [7k]: white is pro, rather die gloriosly than live in gote with a7!
4919	root	1.387	%
4920	root	1.98	[from the default config of the oh-so-broken unrealircd]
4921			#define BIG_SECURITY_HOLE
4922	root	1.387	%
4923	root	1.98	"In fact the whole of Japan is pure invention. There is no such country, there are no such people."
4924			-- Oscar Wilde
4925	root	1.387	%
4926	root	1.98	[a principle used in florida's law]
4927			"guilty until proven innocent"
4928			[http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/main.htm]
4929	root	1.387	%
4930	root	1.98	Wonderful news! A little Jewish woman, calling Mount Sinai Hospital,
4931			said, "Hello, darling, I'd like to talk with the person who gives the
4932			information regarding your patients. I want to know if the patient is
4933			getting better, or doing like expected, or is getting worse." The voice
4934			on the other end of the line said, "What is the patient's name and room
4935			number?" She said, "Yes, darling! she's Sarah Finkel, in Room 302." He
4936			said, "Oh, yes. Mrs. Finkel is doing very well. In fact, she's had two
4937			full meals, her blood pressure is fine, her blood work just came back
4938			as normal, she's going to be taken off the heart monitor in a couple of
4939			hours and if she continues this improvement, Dr. Cohen is going to send
4940			her home Tuesday at twelve o' clock." The woman said, "Thank God! That's
4941			wonderful! Oh! that's fantastic, darling!... That's wonderful news!" The
4942			man on the phone said, "From your enthusiasm, I take it you must be a
4943			close family member or a very close friend!" She said, "I'm Sarah Finkel
4944			in 302! My doctor doesn't tell me shit!
4945	root	1.387	%
4946	root	1.98	[gcc-3.2/.../sstream>
4947			// NB: Start ostringstream buffers at 512 bytes. This is an
4948			// experimental value (pronounced "arbitrary" in some of the
4949			// hipper english-speaking countries), and can be changed to
4950			// suit particular needs.
4951			_M_buf_size_opt = 512;
4952	root	1.387	%
4953	root	1.98	[members.aon.at/paulinchen/advtex/sanitar.htm]
4954			[Walkthrough SANITARIUM]
4955			... Deshalb suchst du erneut den Wassertempel auf. ... Dort haust du als
4956	root	1.388	Grimwall den Lukas ... Darauf hin öffnet der Clown seinen Mund und du
4957	root	1.98	kannst als Olmec die Melodie ...
4958	root	1.387	%
4959	root	1.97	[Onibaba - Great Movie]
4960			http://us.imdb.com/Title?0058430
4961	root	1.387	%
4962	root	1.97	[Kuroneko - I'd like to see :(]
4963			http://us.imdb.com/Title?0122136
4964	root	1.387	%
4965	root	1.96	[<Sesse> microsoft finally takes security seriously]
4966			[http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q276304]
4967			Error Message: Your Password Must Be at Least 18770 Characters and Cannot Repeat Any of Your Previous 30689 Passwords
4968	root	1.387	%
4969	root	1.96	GNU Emacs kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 11.300
4970			vi - Editor. Kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 2.333
4971	root	1.388	XML für Dummies. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 225.881
4972			JavaScript für Dummies. Dynamische Websites selbst gemacht. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 24.576
4973	root	1.387	%
4974	root	1.96	[http://kyushu.com/gleaner/editorspick/seppuku.shtml]
4975
4976			[...] Obviously you have to decide well in advance why you are doing
4977			[seppuku] [...] Resistance, remonstrance, show of loyalty, affirmation of
4978			the correctness of one's own position, expiation of a crime and the wiping
4979			out of disgrace are all perfectly good reasons; being refused a work visa
4980			is not [...]
4981	root	1.387	%
4982	root	1.247	Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd
4983	root	1.95	all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
4984			repetitive electronic music." --Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
4985	root	1.387	%
4986	root	1.94	[some hilights from:]
4987			[http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/Fachbegriffe.der.Informatik.html]
4988
4989	root	1.388	_Einfach erklärt_
4990	root	1.94
4991			GUI
4992			Ein Hintergrundbild und 12 Xterms
4993			Globale Variable
4994	root	1.388	Parameterübergabemechanismus in 4GLs
4995	root	1.94	objektorientiert
4996			Den Code habe ich von meinem Vorgaenger geerbt.
4997			strukturiert
4998			dieses Programm besteht aus mehreren Funktionen
4999			Multithreaded
5000	root	1.388	Wir mußten ein Flußdiagramm malen, um es zu debuggen.
5001	root	1.94	Windows 95
5002	root	1.388	Das Fortran 77 der Benutzungsoberflächen
5003	root	1.94	Emacs
5004	root	1.388	Ich habe ja auch nie bezweifelt, daß emacs ein tolles Betriebssystem
5005			ist. Aber um mit Linux oder Windows konkurrieren zu können, fehlt ihm
5006			ein vernünftiger Editor.
5007	root	1.94	IPv6
5008			$ telnet hundehalsband.georg.hunde.sonnenstrasse.muenchen.de
5009			Trying 942884947298374923847982472983. 2398749874987249247.
5010			2398472372349. 3249782374927898324. 2987238479874987398634.
5011			2987428901171209471. 23987432923. 23478987923.
5012	root	1.388	Die fünf Sinne des C++-Programmierers
5013			Der Schwachsinn, der Blödsinn, der Wahnsinn, der Unsinn und der Stumpfsinn.
5014	root	1.247	PHP
5015	root	1.388	Meine C-64-Basic-Übungen hat niemand zu Gesicht bekommen, während die
5016	root	1.94	in PHP verbrochenen Laufstall-Verunfallungen heutiger Milchgesichter
5017	root	1.388	die Welt verpesten und womöglich von Schlipstraeger-Deppen als
5018			e-Commerce-Lösung gekauft worden sind.
5019	root	1.247	Alleinstellungsmerkmal
5020	root	1.94	Bunt.
5021	root	1.388	Plattformunabhängig
5022			Wenn Du GWBASIC im Dos-Emulator laufen läßt bist Du auch
5023			plattformunabhängig! Du brauchst nur einen Dos-Emulator!
5024	root	1.95	[94: Copyright left out, too long, see original url]
5025	root	1.387	%
5026	root	1.93	[logic & fallacies]
5027			http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html
5028	root	1.387	%
5029	root	1.93	http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/library/wonderful/index.php
5030	root	1.387	%
5031	root	1.93	[nah]
5032			In the Arthur Penn film "Night Moves," someone asks Gene Hackman for an
5033			appraisal of Eric Rohmer's work, to which he replies, "it's like watching
5034			paint dry."
5035	root	1.387	%
5036	root	1.92	http://www2.psy.uq.edu.au/~jay/papers/thesis.pdf
5037			http://home.attbi.com/~bglodis/htmf/AI2-GO2.htm
5038			http://newyork.villageworld.com/users/bradleym/index.htm
5039	root	1.387	%
5040	root	1.178	[Keith Packard about some design holes in X that lead to XRender]
5041	root	1.91	The rules themselves may be broken, but their existence is of vital
5042			importance.
5043	root	1.387	%
5044	root	1.91	[http://cbbrowne.com/info/xpersonal.html]
5045			[_very_ good pages, read them all!]
5046			Many things have been hacked onto Win32; unfortunately, actually using
5047			Windows-based facilities has two massive detrimental effects:
5048
5049			You have to trust Microsoft.
5050
5051			There are a number of things that I would trust Microsoft with. I trust
5052			Microsoft to continue to release buggy software such as the Windows 98
5053			release that needed patches to survive to 1999, let alone 2000. I trust
5054			Microsoft to continue to release software that gets more bloated such
5055			that it requires as much memory as systems can support just to support
5056			useless chrome.
5057
5058			But control over whether my code will continue to be usable next year
5059			whether due to technical or licensing changes is not one of the things
5060			I'd like to trust them with.
5061	root	1.93	[...]
5062	root	1.387	%
5063	root	1.91	[when choosing "About" from the mozilla menu]
5064			[now, which OS let's us enjoy similar error messages all the time? ;)]
5065			XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
5066			Location: jar:resource:///chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/global/about.xhtml
5067			Line Number 90, Column 15:
5068	root	1.247	<li>Copyright © 1998-2002 by <a href="about:credits">Contributors</a> to
5069	root	1.91	--------------^
5070	root	1.387	%
5071	root	1.91	[from the kanon 10% english translation patch README]
5072			[http://haeleth.port5.com/]
5073			A Japanese effect not found in English is the wonderful verbless sentence,
5074			which I like so much that I've translated a few literally. I do know
5075			English grammar, I assure you.
5076	root	1.387	%
5077	root	1.91	Giant hornets regularly attack beehives. Typically, an attack begins when
5078			a single hornet captures a lone bee nearby the hive. After several of
5079			these perimeter skirmishes, one hornet leaves a marking pheromone at the
5080			hive's entrance. This pheromone attracts the other hornets, who arrive
5081			en masse and attack the beehive. The bees' stingers can't penetrate the
5082			hornets' armor, so it's a one-sided slaughter; something like 30,000 bees
5083			can be killed in a few hours by 30-40 hornets.
5084
5085			Japanese honeybees, however, have evolved an interesting defensive
5086			strategy. When a hornet marks the hive's entrance, the bees guarding the
5087			entrance return to the hive and wait for the attacking hornets. This has
5088			the effect of luring the first attacking hornets into the hive, rather
5089			than allowing them to start their attack outside. Simultaneously, over
5090			1000 worker bees in the hive leave the combs and mass just inside the
5091			hive's entrance. When a hornet tries to enter the hive, the workers
5092			surround it, forming a ball of bodies, and cook it to death with their
5093			body heat. The bees also release a pheromone that draws ever more bees
5094			from the hive's interior to come to the entrance and defend the nest.
5095
5096			This strategy must be perfect in order to be successful. If the bees fail
5097			in killing the first hornet attackers, then the hornet pheromone gets
5098			stronger, and more hornets arrive to reinforce their attack. By sheer
5099			numbers, the hornets can overpower the bees.
5100
5101			Source: Bernd Heinrich, "The Thermal Warriors: Strategies of Insect
5102			Survival," Harvard University Press, 1996.
5103	root	1.387	%
5104	root	1.91	[http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/csrss-backspace-bug.html]
5105			[fixed in latest service packs, but still funny ;)]
5106			The following neat little program, when compiled and run, will completely
5107			crash XP (and any earlier version of NT) (when I ran it, XP rebooted). I
5108			don't recommend you really try this program, but if you do, save all your
5109			work etc first:
5110
5111			#include <stdio.h>
5112
5113			int main (void) {
5114			while (1)
5115			printf ("\t\t\b\b\b\b\b\b");
5116
5117			return 0;
5118			}
5119	root	1.387	%
5120	root	1.91	[you might point your windows-using-friends to this page, it
5121			contains a lot of funny FUD ;)]
5122	root	1.90	http://www.hevanet.com/peace/microsoft.htm
5123	root	1.387	%
5124	root	1.90	[http://eros.cs.jhu.edu/~shap/NT-EAL4.html]
5125			Security experts have been saying for years that the the security of
5126			the Windows family of products is hopelessly inadequate. Now there is a
5127			rigorous government certification confirming this.
5128	root	1.387	%
5129	root	1.89	[mms_client after finishing the download]
5130			everything done. Thank you for downloading a media file containing
5131			proprietary and patentend technology.
5132	root	1.387	%
5133	root	1.88	I wouldn't want to win the Steven Spielberg Award - he is an amateur!
5134	root	1.388	-- Aki Kaurismäki
5135	root	1.387	%
5136	root	1.87	[http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/godel.html]
5137	root	1.388	"The Gödelian structure of the unity of levels of Reality associated
5138	root	1.87	with the logic of the included middle implies that it is impossible to
5139			construct a complete theory for describing the passage from one level to
5140			the other and, a fortiori, for describing the unity of levels of Reality."
5141	root	1.387	%
5142	root	1.388	1. Das von den Parteien eingeführte Listenwahlrecht verstößt gegen
5143			Art. 38, Abs. 1, Satz 1 Grundgesetz (GG): »Die Abgeordneten des Deutschen
5144	root	1.87	Bundestages werden in allgemeiner, unmittelbarer, freier, gleicher und
5145	root	1.388	geheimer Wahl gewählt.« Danach muß es dem Bürger möglich sein, seinen
5146			Abgeordneten unmittelbar zu wählen. Die Wahl von Parteienlisten ist also
5147	root	1.87	verfassungswidrig, nicht zuletzt deshalb, weil hierbei Kandidaten zum Zuge
5148	root	1.388	kommen, die der Listenwähler nicht wählen will.
5149	root	1.87
5150	root	1.388	2. Der Fraktionszwang verstößt ebenfalls gegen das Grundgesetz. Satz
5151			2 des Art. 38, Abs. 1, lautet nämlich: »Sie (die Abgeordneten) sind
5152			Vertreter des ganzen Volkes, an Aufträge und Weisungen nicht gebunden
5153			und nur ihrem Gewissen unterworfen.« Wenn Fraktionsvorsitzende den frei
5154			gewählten Abgeordneten einer Fraktionsdisziplin unterwerfen (und das noch
5155			unter Androhung von Sanktionen), erteilen sie Weisungen darüber, wie die
5156	root	1.87	Abgeordneten der Partei abzustimmen haben. Es handelt sich dann um eine
5157			Form fraktionsinternen imperativen Mandats.
5158
5159	root	1.388	3. Die überbordende Staatsverschuldung (vor allem im Bund) verstößt gegen
5160			Art. 115 des GG. Darin heißt es in Abs. 1, Satz 2: »Die Einnahmen aus
5161			Krediten dürfen die Summe der im Haushaltsplan veranschlagten Ausgaben für
5162			Investitionen nicht überschreiten; Ausnahmen sind nur zulässig zur Abwehr
5163			einer Störung des gesamtwirtschaftlichen Gleichgewichts.« Unter Fachleuten
5164			besteht nicht der geringste Zweifel, daß das vorgeschriebene Kreditlimit
5165			(Höhe der »Ausgaben für Investitionen«) durch Haushaltstricks sträflich
5166			überschritten wurde. Die Folge: Im Jahre 2001 erreichte die Verschuldung
5167			der Gebietskörperschaften die unvorstellbare Höhe von 1.210 Mrd. Euro (im
5168			Bund: 700 Mrd. Euro); das sind 79 Prozent des jährlichen Volkseinkommens
5169	root	1.87	von 1.531 Mrd. Euro.
5170	root	1.387	%
5171	root	1.87	[just FMI (for my information)]
5172			http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7eflavell/charset/form-i18n.html
5173	root	1.387	%
5174	root	1.87	[perldoc perlboot]
5175			Typically, each @ISA has only one element (multiple elements means
5176			multiple inheritance and multiple headaches)
5177	root	1.387	%
5178	root	1.87	[I find that all this stallman-bashing is a sure sign that that
5179			"linux" thing will fail]
5180			In lists.linux.kernel.development, Larry McVoy wrote:
5181			[...]
5182	root	1.247	Richard Stallman started the free software foundation. He built the
5183	root	1.87	compiler, library and zillions of other tools that developers use on a day
5184			to day basis. He slept at the offices of MIT while he spent his time,
5185			effort and money building up the Free Software Foundation.
5186
5187			Though many people differ with him on a wide variety of issues, he
5188			deserves respect from all because he has devoted twenty years of his
5189			life to the public good.
5190
5191			You, on the other hand, develop and sell a proprietary software product.
5192			You convinced a large number of kernel developers (most importantly
5193			Linus himself) to use your proprietary product to develop free software,
5194			so that you could tell potential customers "Gee! Look how great my
5195			software is! It's used to develop the linux kernel!"
5196
5197			You don't care about free software Larry. You're just glad that you have
5198			a poster child to display your effort. Want proof? Look at how you have
5199			treated numerous kernel developers when you found out that they worked
5200			on free software projects that could potentially compete with your
5201			software some day -- you revoke their "free" license to use your
5202			software to work on the linux kernel!
5203
5204			Richard is trying to change the world into a better place. You, however,
5205			are trying to get rich, and you're using free software as a stepping
5206			stone to promote your proprietary software. Nothing wrong with getting
5207			rich of course -- I'd love to be rich too. But you certainly don't
5208			deserve to be lumped into the same group as RMS.
5209	root	1.387	%
5210	root	1.86	[perldoc perlreftut]
5211	root	1.247	What does line 4 do here?
5212			[...]
5213			This is Perl, so it does the exact right thing.
5214	root	1.387	%
5215	root	1.86	[perldoc perlreftut]
5216			Think of the President of the United States: a messy, inconvenient bag of
5217			blood and bones. But to talk about him, or to represent him in a computer
5218			program, all you need is the easy, convenient scalar string "George Bush".
5219	root	1.387	%
5220	root	1.86	[rise and fall of free software standards]
5221	root	1.247	* GNU Gettext and %expect
5222			GNU Gettext asserts 10 s/r conflicts, but there are 7. Now that
5223			Bison dies on incorrect %expectations, we fear there will be
5224			too many bug reports for Gettext, so _for the time being_, %expect
5225			does not trigger an error when the input file is named `plural.y'.
5226	root	1.387	%
5227	root	1.86	Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers.
5228			-- Leonard Brandwein
5229	root	1.387	%
5230	root	1.85	[11:57] <schmorp> email@wanadoo.fr
5231	root	1.247	[11:57] <schmorp> you know what wannados are?
5232			[11:58] <Arvoreen> the french pendant of aol users ??
5233			[11:58] <schmorp> nope
5234			[11:58] <Arvoreen> then no clue
5235			[11:58] <schmorp> "people who fail before they even try"
5236			[12:00] <Zeograd> wanadoo was actually named following this idea, sigh
5237			[12:00] <schmorp> not really, yes?
5238			[12:00] <Zeograd> yes
5239			[12:00] <schmorp> ;);)
5240			[12:03] <schmorp> that "yes" sounded really painful
5241			[12:03] <Zeograd> more than you could imagine :)
5242	root	1.387	%
5243	root	1.247	[11:37] <Arvoreen> Oui mon francais est un peu
5244			[11:38] <Zeograd> Arvoreen: not bad, it doesn't mean much but it sounds french :)
5245	root	1.387	%
5246	root	1.84	A Russian hacker was sentenced to three years in prison here in the
5247			United States for breaking computer crime laws here. It's an
5248			interesting story. He was in Russia at the time, and broke no laws in
5249			his country. However, the U.S. prosecution broke Russian laws to
5250			collect evidence against him. The judge agreed with the FBI's
5251			assertion that Russian law didn't apply to them. Isn't international
5252			jurisprudence fun?
5253			<http://in.tech.yahoo.com/021005/137/1w2bq.html>
5254	root	1.387	%
5255	root	1.247	[02:58] <Sesse> microsoft finally gets it:
5256			[02:58] <Sesse> Visual Basic .NET delivers the feature most requested by existing Visual Basic
5257			[02:58] <Sesse> developers--fewer bugs in the code they write.
5258	root	1.84	[...]
5259	root	1.247	[03:00] <Sesse> "VB programmers have finally found out they lack talent, and blame Microsoft" ;-)
5260	root	1.387	%
5261	root	1.84	[found at www.imdb.com]
5262			the trouble with the global village are all the global village idiots.
5263			- Paul Ginsparg.
5264	root	1.387	%
5265	root	1.84	prionbrain: A joke I just read: " A girl phoned me the other day and
5266			said, .. come on over, there's nobody home. I went over. There was nobody
5267			home.":))
5268			[erm...]
5269	root	1.387	%
5270	root	1.84	> described above, CONFIG_XBOX_SUPPORT will depend on CONFIG_PCI.
5271
5272	root	1.247	Which seems fair enough. ISA bus X-box systems are suprisingly rare
5273	root	1.387	%
5274	root	1.247	[05:06] <elmex> windows has 2 left hands when it comes to being an OS
5275	root	1.387	%
5276	root	1.83	[http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/mml/mduerst/papers/PDF/IUC11-UTF-8.pdf]
5277
5278			[...] In particular, the following behaviour proposed or observed in some
5279			implementations is not UTF-8 and should never be presented as such. First,
5280			UTF16 surrogate pairs could be encoded in UTF-8 as two sequences of 3
5281			bytes each (this behaviour is observed in some Java implementations).
5282	root	1.387	%
5283	root	1.83	.+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+''
5284			/ \ / \ / \ / \ /
5285			.+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+'
5286	root	1.387	%
5287	root	1.82	From: "David S. Miller"
5288	root	1.83
5289			> Then shouldn't the thing thats different from the norm be programmed into a header file which contains how certain functions should be+++
5290	root	1.82
5291			If I gave you a dollar, would you go out and buy some newlines
5292			to use in future emails?
5293	root	1.387	%
5294	root	1.82	Could somebody drag the Irix team kicking and screaming into the 1980's,
5295			please?
5296
5297			I realize it might be quite painful for them, but maybe you could buy them
5298			a disco tape, so they'd feel a little bit more at home.
5299
5300	root	1.247	Linus "Stayin' alive, stayin' alive" Torvalds
5301	root	1.387	%
5302	root	1.82	Yesterday, the local Brazilian authorities signed a decree stating that the
5303			Brazilian daylight saving period will start on November 3rd 2002 and will
5304			last until February 16th 2003.
5305
5306			So, clocks will be set one hour forward on November 3rd (12:00 a.m. will be
5307			changed to 1:00 a.m.) and at midnight (0:00 am) on February 16th, Brazil
5308			will adjust its clocks back one hour (23:00 pm on Feb 15th) marking the
5309			end.
5310
5311			The reason for the delay this year has to do with elections in Brazil.
5312
5313			Unlike in the United States, elections in Brazil are 100% computerized and
5314			the results are known almost immediately. Yesterday, it was the first
5315			round of the elections when 115 million Brazilians voted for President,
5316			Governor, Senators, Federal Deputies, and State Deputies. Nobody is
5317			counting (or re-counting) votes anymore and we know there will be a second
5318			round for the Presidency and also for some Governors. The 2nd round will
5319			take place on October 27th.
5320
5321			The reason why the DST will only begin November 3rd is that the thousands
5322			of electoral machines used cannot have their time changed, and since the
5323			Constitution says the elections must begin at 8:00 AM and end at 5:00 PM ,
5324			the Government decided to postpone DST, instead of changing the
5325			Constitution (maybe, for the next elections, it will be possible to change
5326			the clock)...
5327	root	1.387	%
5328	root	1.81	[boycot your enemies]
5329			> We're a business. We're a business which happens to be committed to
5330			> helping the kernel team because we think that the kernel is vital to the
5331			> world at large. Helping the kernel absolutely does not translate to
5332			> helping people who happen to be our competitors. By your own
5333
5334			Stop lying. Your job is to make lots of money and you are using Linux as
5335			cheap advertising. You are trying to make people pay you to do kernel
5336			development (as it stands you want $5000 for any bk-using developer inside
5337			RedHat and SuSE).
5338
5339			I hope your company dies ASAP and bitkeeper stops poisoning air here.
5340
5341			Pavel
5342	root	1.387	%
5343	root	1.81	Rik
5344	root	1.247	--
5345	root	1.81	A: No.
5346			Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?
5347	root	1.387	%
5348	root	1.81	> Incidently unlimited permission is granted to use disks containing only
5349	root	1.247	> GNU/Linux software as footballs without royalties. All other usage of
5350			> disks as footballs will be considered on a per case basis.
5351	root	1.81
5352			I would be inclined to allow this for Windows drives instead. They contain
5353			no useful data.
5354
5355	root	1.247	--
5356	root	1.81	bill davidsen
5357	root	1.387	%
5358	root	1.80	In the switching software (written in C)
5359			there was a long do..while construct,
5360			which contained a switch statement,
5361			which contained an if clause,
5362			which contained a break,
5363			which was intended for the if clause,
5364			but instead broke from the switch statement.
5365
5366			- Network message explaining the breakdown of the AT&T long-distance
5367			network January 15, 1990
5368	root	1.387	%
5369	root	1.80	[From "password retrieval policies" of some irc network:]
5370
5371	root	1.247	They are likely to continue asking for the password, even after you have
5372			told them that it has been E-Mailed. /Ignore the stupid user. /Kick the
5373			stupid user. Do not /Kill the stupid user, since being stupid is not a
5374			violation of network policies.
5375	root	1.80
5376			[the same document, explaining K:Lines]
5377
5378			K:Lines - These lines define which clients are not allowed to connect.
5379			The format is as follows:
5380
5381			K:*.aol.com:AOL sucks:lamer
5382	root	1.387	%
5383	root	1.79	[Microsoft's Craig Mundie on security.]
5384			"People confuse 'security' and Trustworthy Computing."
5385			http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/features/2002/feb02/02-20mundieqa.asp
5386	root	1.387	%
5387	root	1.79	http://staging.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/09/05/020905hnmssecure.xml
5388			"I'm not proud," [Brian] Valentine [senior vice president in charge of
5389			Microsoft's Windows development team] said, as he spoke to a crowd of
5390			developers here at the company's Windows .Net Server developer
5391			conference. "We really haven't done everything we could to protect our
5392			customers ... Our products just aren't engineered for security."
5393			...
5394			"If you go back a few years, unless you were working on login at
5395			Microsoft, you really didn't worry about security. The risk wasn't worth
5396			the effort."
5397	root	1.387	%
5398	root	1.79	http://www.satirewire.com/news/aug02/encryption.shtml
5399	root	1.387	%
5400	root	1.79	[please bear with me and understand that I didn't intend to drive
5401			gay people mad at me with this one...]
5402	root	1.78	[10:16] <pixelpapst> Wenn man ihn mal mit so 'nem richtigen Bilderbuch-Schwulen wie
5403	root	1.247	Lukas vergleicht :)
5404			[10:16] <elmex> Lukas is net schwul, er is Consultant
5405	root	1.387	%
5406	root	1.76	http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/tenseg1.html
5407	root	1.387	%
5408	root	1.76	http://24.86.132.253/090101/feature/feature.htm
5409	root	1.387	%
5410	root	1.76	I maintain a /bin/ps that supports BSD, SysV, and Gnu syntax all at the
5411			same time. It requires Linux. This one works; the Red Hat one is broken.
5412			[Albert Cahalan]
5413	root	1.387	%
5414	root	1.75	The Berkeley shell csh is reasonably well known and widely used and its
5415			externals have been subject to some criticism. The internals of csh are at
5416			least as bad, but lesser known.
5417	root	1.387	%
5418	root	1.75	There are billions of different ways of parsing argv, the list of command
5419			line arguments passed to a C program. The problem is that they are all
5420			different.
5421	root	1.387	%
5422	root	1.75	A common disease in programs written at Berkeley is to open /dev/kmem and grub the load averages out by the dirtiest means possible.
5423	root	1.387	%
5424	root	1.76	[no, I still don't like bondage & discipline]
5425			http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/~geldridg/eiffel/liberty/meyer-bertrand/java/bm-2nd.html
5426	root	1.387	%
5427	root	1.74	[about the early CD-R dyes]
5428			The early, immature media caused some interesting problems. A certain
5429			popular Technics CD player, often used in radio stations, had a bad habit
5430			of accepting the early media, but refusing to eject it, causing much
5431			consternation to disc jockeys who were left without a player and possibly
5432			without a show.
5433	root	1.387	%
5434	root	1.76	[more of a timestamp]
5435	root	1.73	"SANS, SOUCI"
5436	root	1.387	%
5437	root	1.72	http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/canthappen.html
5438	root	1.387	%
5439	root	1.71	The Ten Commandments for C Programmers
5440			http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/commandments.html
5441	root	1.387	%
5442	root	1.71	[Bruce Schneier]
5443			A bill introduced into Congress gives copyright holders -- that's the RIAA,
5444			the MPAA, and similar guys -- the right to break into people's computers if
5445	root	1.247	they have a reasonable basis to believe that copyright infringement is
5446	root	1.71	going on.
5447			[...]
5448	root	1.247	People they choose to target would be deemed guilty until proven
5449			otherwise. In short, this bill would set up the entertainment industry
5450			as a Gestapo-like enforcement agency with no oversight.
5451	root	1.387	%
5452	root	1.70	[06:20] <Draxxon> BTW, (being from the USA) If pro is the grammatical
5453			opposite of con, then the opposite of "progress" would be... "Congress"???
5454	root	1.387	%
5455	root	1.247	You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
5456	root	1.387	%
5457	root	1.69	http://www29.compaq.com/falco/detail.asp?FAQnum=FAQ2859
5458	root	1.387	%
5459	root	1.69	[practical go humor]
5460			Lantu: ok any suggestions for good practical jokes to play on Pro's? :]
5461			id: Make a line of five stones, yell "Pente", and insist you've won.
5462	root	1.387	%
5463	root	1.68	[windows API rocks]
5464			The FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS enumeration type defines values that are used with
5465			the FindFirstFileEx function to specify the information level of the
5466			returned data.
5467
5468	root	1.247	typedef enum _FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS {
5469			FindExInfoStandard
5470			} FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS ;
5471	root	1.387	%
5472	root	1.388	[Arvoreen philosophiert über die Verkleinerung von GNOME mit strip]
5473	root	1.67	[05:10] <Arvoreen> 153MB gestripped und vorher 541MB
5474			[05:13] <Arvoreen> oder wie der Wirtschaftswissenschaftler sagen wuerde um 354%
5475	root	1.247	kleiner ;-)))))) (die haben ja die prozente oberhalb von 100 erfunden)
5476	root	1.387	%
5477	root	1.66	[Microsoft documents how file types are detected in IE. No wonder
5478			it doesn't work:]
5479			1. If the "suggested" (server-provided) MIME type is unknown (not
5480			known and not ambiguous), FindMimeFromData immediately returns
5481			this MIME type as the final determination.
5482	root	1.387	%
5483	root	1.65	[freshmeat. And this release even adds ANOTHER codepage. I am impressed]
5484
5485			Recode 0.1.1
5486			by Eugene V. Chernyshev - Friday, June 28th 2002 01:58 EDT
5487
5488			About: Recode is a fast Russian codepage translator. It translates between
5489			three different codepages: DOS 866, Windows CP-1251, and UNIX KOI8-R.
5490
5491			Changes: This release adds an ISO-8859-5 codepage.
5492	root	1.387	%
5493	root	1.65	http://www.tmk.com/ftp/humor/computer-error-messages.txt
5494	root	1.387	%
5495	root	1.64	$S=eval'sub{eval"sub{%S}"}';$S->({});
5496	root	1.387	%
5497	root	1.64	[From CRYPTO-GRAM]
5498
5499			Microsoft's "Trustworthy Computing" initiative seems to be
5500			just a scam so the company can avoid antitrust remedies by
5501			claiming that opening their systems is a security risk. Pity.
5502			<http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s=701%26a=26605,00.asp>
5503			<http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D701%2526a%253D26875,00.asp>
5504			A comment on Slashdot sums it up best: "Microsoft has therefore taken
5505			the position that their code is so bad that it must be kept secret to
5506			keep people from being killed by it. Windows -- the Pinto of the 21st
5507			century."
5508
5509			Most interesting of the two articles above is the second eWeek article,
5510			where Microsoft's Allchin mentions "at least one protocol and two APIs
5511			that it plans to withhold from public disclosure under the security
5512			carve-out." The protocol is Message Queuing. Apparently, Microsoft
5513			has discovered a security flaw in the Message Queuing protocol so bad
5514			that can't be fixed without breaking existing applications. So, until
5515			such time as they can field a backwards-compatible fix, they're going
5516			to hope no one else discovers it. (This is not a wholly unreasonable
5517			decision; security researchers have made the same decision in the
5518			past.) Of course, Allchin has undermined this decision by publicly
5519			naming the protocol. That's more than enough for someone sufficiently
5520			motivated to find the flaw. In the classified world, you can get your
5521			clearance pulled for blabbing like that. Jim Allchin's testimony:
5522			<http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/trial/mswitness/2002/allchin.asp>
5523
5524			At the same time, Microsoft tries to convince the Pentagon that open source
5525			software threatens security, and using proprietary Microsoft software is
5526			much safer (and better for the economy, to boot). This article is
5527			hilarious in light of the above.
5528			<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60050-2002May22.html>
5529
5530			A report on something called a Tactical Web Page, which purports to be a
5531			secret combat Web site, through which American commanders in the United
5532			States can direct troops in Afghanistan. My favorite quote: "'There have
5533			been a few instances when unidentified computers have tried to get in, in
5534			which case we throw up additional firewalls,' Lt. Col. Bryan Dyer
5535			said." Is it just me, or does Lt. Col. Dyer come from I-Don't-Get-It Land?
5536			<http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,52861,00.html>
5537
5538			Yet more comments from the clueless. In response to the report that
5539			someone hacked into Experian's database and stole 13,000 credit-card
5540			numbers, a PR flack said: "Our files are protected by state-of-the-art,
5541			Star Wars-style security and encryption technology."
5542	root	1.65	<http://www.lendingintelligence.com/news.ez?viewStory=1123&Form.sess_id=845521234&Form.sess_key=1022430845>
5543	root	1.387	%
5544	root	1.64	http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,52901,00.html
5545	root	1.387	%
5546	root	1.388	ich: ich hätte gerne ein nummernschild in unna: "un-ix 123"
5547			zotan: sei froh, daß du nicht in wiesbaden wohnst: "wi-n 95"
5548	root	1.387	%
5549	root	1.63	"There are two ways of constructing a piece of software: One is to make it
5550			so simple that there are obviously no errors, and the other is to make it
5551			so complicated that there are no obvious errors."
5552
5553			Tony Hoare
5554	root	1.387	%
5555	root	1.388	Nach dem Gesetz über Einheiten im Meßwesen vom 2. Juli 1969 in der Fassung
5556			vom 22. Februar 1985 dürfte Word im geschäftlichen und amtlichen Verkehr
5557	root	1.63	_nicht_ eingesetzt werden, da es mit dem Punkt eine nicht-SI-konforme
5558	root	1.388	Maßeinheit verwendet.
5559	root	1.387	%
5560	root	1.63	From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5561
5562			[...]
5563			The Nforce is basically completely unsupported by 2.2. It is mostly unsupported
5564			by 2.4. The networking built into the chipset is not supported by either
5565			system. Basically its windows computer
5566	root	1.387	%
5567	root	1.63	[go figure...]
5568	root	1.247	<JanMan> read(3, 0x8102cc8, 32768) = -1 ESRCH (No such process)
5569	root	1.387	%
5570	root	1.63	Subject: Re: Off topic: Solaris 9 announced, a lot of Linux incorporated
5571
5572			> In today's world of heterogeneous computing, compatibility leads
5573			> to efficiency. Combining the Linux community with thousands of
5574			> Solaris software developers and nearly three million Java and XML
5575			> software developers...
5576
5577			Homeopathic approach to software development?
5578	root	1.387	%
5579	root	1.63	> > Patch is severely broken in its current form, not only for the
5580			> > reasons you stated, but also because of its inability to handle
5581			> > renaming in any sane way. I want a patch --sane option.
5582			>
5583			> I bet BitKeeper gets it right... ;-) ;-) ;-)
5584
5585			Funny you should mention that, since Bitkeeper has embarrassed itself pretty
5586			badly with respect to patches, so far.
5587
5588			- Somebody decided to add another level on top of the linux root directory
5589			in their source directory. I can't import patches into that.
5590
5591			- I can apply patches to bitkeeper repository using the normal 'patch',
5592			but Bitkeeper gets its revenge later, as each bk edit command starts
5593			off by throwing away the patch.
5594
5595			Given the hype, I expected more. I want a tool to save work for me, not
5596			create new work. I don't think I'll be using Bitkeeper as a substitute for
5597			patch any time soon.
5598
5599			--
5600			Daniel
5601	root	1.387	%
5602	root	1.62	From: "Miquel van Smoorenburg" <miquels@cistron.nl>
5603			Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 23:18:34 +0000 (UTC)
5604			[...]
5605			Bummer, I'm using Debian, and iostat is in woody (frozen, about to
5606			be released) - that means Debian users will have to wait to the
5607			next release, another two years perhaps, before iostat gets working.
5608	root	1.387	%
5609	root	1.62	[no comments ;)]
5610
5611			I've installed kernel 2.5.15 (should include aio support) an libaio (0.3.7).
5612			It seams that libaio.so depends on libredhat-kernel.so.1. Why?
5613			Is it realy needed?
5614	root	1.387	%
5615	root	1.62	[W. Richard Stevens about the 3.2 streams "poll" function:]
5616
5617			int poll(struct pollfd *fdarray, unsigned long nfds, int timeout);
5618
5619			[...] The number of elements in the array of structures [...] is
5620			specified by the nfds argument. (Why this argument is specified as
5621			an unsigned long integer, and not a simple integer, is perplexing.)
5622	root	1.387	%
5623	root	1.62	[www.intel.com]
5624			Over 70 Internet Streaming Single Instruction Multiple Data (SIMD)
5625			extensions enhance streaming multimedia and graphics applications, both on
5626			the hard drive and over the Internet. With SIMD, audio and video
5627			download faster, with clearer sound quality, deeper color and resolution,
5628			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
5629			and enlarged images with smoother frame rates.
5630	root	1.387	%
5631	root	1.61	From: Alexander Viro
5632
5633			On Thu, 9 May 2002, Tomas Szepe wrote:
5634			> > I did quite a bit of this work for CML2 - bus dependencies can be
5635			> > found in the CML2 sources.
5636			>
5637			> Btw, what happened to CML2?
5638
5639			This is an ex-parrot
5640	root	1.387	%
5641	root	1.61	From: David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>
5642
5643			> > It doesn't have to be an O(n lg(n)) method but could you use something
5644			> > besides bubblesort? Insertion sort, selection sort, etc. are just as
5645			> > easy and they don't have the horrific stigma of being "the worst sorting
5646			> > algorithm ever" etc.
5647			>
5648			> Surely the worst (working) sort is randomsort? (Check if sorted. If not,
5649			> pick two entries at random, exchange, retry.)
5650
5651			I've always been a fan of bit-decay sort.
5652
5653			while (!sorted(data))
5654			;
5655	root	1.387	%
5656	root	1.61	Subject: Re: Bitkeeper licence issues
5657			From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5658
5659			> This should be a reflex for someone with such a Sun heritage like you...
5660
5661			You obviously never used SunOS4. Its a bit before security became relevant
5662			to computing
5663	root	1.387	%
5664	root	1.61	From: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
5665
5666			On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:05:39 -0500, joeja@mindspring.com wrote:
5667			>What limits the number of threads one can have on a Linux system?
5668
5669			Common sense, one would hope.
5670	root	1.387	%
5671	root	1.61	From: Toon Moene
5672			[...]
5673
5674			Obviously, the only way I could support this effort is by rewriting the
5675			backend to use FORTRAN; that way it would finally be possible to
5676			translate the Linux kernel into FORTRAN and vindicate this:
5677
5678			http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/chist.html
5679
5680			"Challenged by McIlroy's feat in reproducing TMG, Thompson decided that
5681			Unix - possibly it had not even been named yet - needed a system
5682			programming language. After a rapidly scuttled attempt at Fortran, he
5683			created instead a language of his own, which he called B"
5684
5685			:-)
5686	root	1.387	%
5687	root	1.247	"... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that,
5688			lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of
5689			their C programs."
5690	root	1.60
5691			Robert Firth
5692	root	1.387	%
5693	root	1.59	[miri@ccc.de]
5694	root	1.388	Moooooment, das sind zwei Sachen die miteinander zusammenhängen...
5695	root	1.59	[and after some quarrel...]
5696			Ich lasse mich ungern zitieren!
5697	root	1.387	%
5698	root	1.68	[Klaus Knopper, and no, I don't think this, to the contrary :(]
5699	root	1.388	Ich bin Marc Lehmann begegnet, und seitdem glaube ich, er hält mich für blöd.
5700	root	1.387	%
5701	root	1.57	[Content-Type used by Microsoft for .exe files]
5702			Content-Type: application/x-msdownload
5703	root	1.387	%
5704	root	1.68	[from windows' wininet.h]
5705	root	1.56	#define ERROR_INTERNET_INSERT_CDROM (INTERNET_ERROR_BASE + 53)
5706	root	1.387	%
5707	root	1.388	Für die Erkenntnis, dass Perl produktivitätssteigernd wirkt, kämpfe ich hier
5708	root	1.56	in meinem Laden allerdings noch. Interessanterweise sind die Leute, die
5709			selber programmieren, mittlerweile fast alle auf meiner Seite; die Leute,
5710	root	1.388	dir organisieren und selber gar nicht programmieren können, halten Perl für
5711			eine Art Spielzeug, oder für ein Quick-and-Dirty-Tool, das man bei
5712	root	1.56	erstbester Gelegenheit durch etwas professionelles ersetzen muss (was
5713			vermutlich von Microsoft stammt).
5714
5715			Aber ich arbeite weiter dran...
5716
5717			\Gisbert
5718	root	1.387	%
5719	root	1.55	http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
5720	root	1.387	%
5721	root	1.55	P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the
5722			world like English did. Er, as English did...
5723			--Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393@wall.org>
5724	root	1.387	%
5725	root	1.54	From: Felix von Leitner <usenet-20020216@fefe.de>
5726			Subject: Re: Disgusted with kbuild developers
5727
5728			I don't have python. Any version of python.
5729			[...]
5730	root	1.387	%
5731	root	1.54	[perldoc Test::Harness]
5732			Additional comments may be put into the testing output on their own lines.
5733			Comment lines should begin with a '#', Test::Harness will ignore them.
5734
5735			ok 1
5736			# Life is good, the sun is shining, RAM is cheap.
5737			not ok 2
5738			# got 'Bush' expected 'Gore'
5739	root	1.387	%
5740	root	1.54	I specialize in storage, and C is self taught.
5741
5742			Cheers,
5743
5744			Andre Hedrick
5745			Linux Disk Certification Project Linux ATA Development
5746	root	1.387	%
5747	root	1.54	> > The new lock uses a combination of a spinlock and a (mutex-)semaphore.
5748	root	1.247	>
5749	root	1.54	> Spinaphore :-)
5750
5751			Or mutabloat :-(
5752	root	1.387	%
5753	root	1.54	Microsoft Outlook IS the problem. Blaming it IS correct. Removing
5754			Outlook IS the solution.
5755	root	1.387	%
5756	root	1.54	Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
5757	root	1.387	%
5758	root	1.53	From: Ricky Beam
5759
5760			Yep. I still laugh at those who say "bandwidth is free." They've obviously
5761			never bought anything from UUNet.
5762	root	1.387	%
5763	root	1.53	deconstructionism -- (a philosophical theory of criticism ...
5764			that seeks to expose deep-seated contradictions in a work
5765			by delving below its surface meaning)
5766	root	1.387	%
5767	root	1.52	http://brics.dk/~cw97/ProceedingS/01.ps.gz
5768	root	1.387	%
5769	root	1.52	From: Alan Cox
5770
5771			> and hire all the lawyers they'd want...at the end of the day, could you
5772			> just go to court and say:
5773
5774			Oh glorious naivety.
5775
5776			> The law seems pretty damn clear on this issue (in fact Subsection 3.c
5777			> sounds like I could quite happily send it to someone in the USA if they
5778			> can do the work better than I).
5779
5780			You release the code
5781
5782			The next day an injunction arrives in the post
5783
5784			The day after that the large corporate lawyers slap a secrecy order on you
5785			preventing you discussing the case with anyone but your legal representative
5786			by convincing some pissed geriatric moron in the high court that if he
5787			doesnt sign it you'll tell the whole world and harm them irrepairably
5788
5789			Over the next week 10-15,000 pages of documents arrive for you, followed
5790			by a couple of thousand discovery requests.
5791
5792			A week later while you are reading them they file for summary judgement
5793			because you have failed to file the defence. You lose. Game over
5794
5795			Then the court costs bankrupt you.
5796
5797			Sound like fiction - it happens _regularly_. Its very rare (McLibel case
5798			is extremely unusual) that it can ever be talked about on a per case basis,
5799			or that the good guys win.
5800
5801			This is why everyone doing innovative computing work does it outside of the
5802			US, and outside of most of the EU.
5803	root	1.387	%
5804	root	1.51	From: Alan Cox
5805
5806			[...]
5807			I would not perform such work in the united kingdom. Perform it in a free
5808			country. Reverse engineering that might offend a large corporation in the UK
5809	root	1.247	is only viable if you have five million pounds to hand, a law firm and a
5810	root	1.51	year to kill.
5811	root	1.387	%
5812	root	1.51	[CRYPTO-GRAM, January 2002]
5813			Windows UPnP Vulnerability
5814
5815			[...]
5816			Here's a quote from Scott Culp, manager of Microsoft's security response
5817			center: "This is the first network-based, remote compromise that I'm aware
5818			of for Windows desktop systems."
5819			[...]
5820			eEye Digital Security told Microsoft about this vulnerability nearly two
5821			months before Microsoft released its patch.
5822			[...]
5823			UPnP is a complex set of protocols to support ad hoc peer-to-peer
5824			networking. Even though no one uses it, it's installed in a bunch of
5825			Microsoft OSs. Even though no one needs it turned on, sometimes it's
5826			turned on by default.
5827			[...]
5828			The industry analysts at Gartner issued a warning, urging companies to
5829			delay upgrading to Windows XP for "three to six months," lest more of
5830			these kind of vulnerabilities surface.
5831			[...]
5832			Honestly, security experts don't pick on Microsoft because we have some
5833			fundamental dislike for the company. Indeed, Microsoft's poor products
5834			are one of the reasons we're in business. We pick on them because they've
5835			done more to harm Internet security than anyone else, because they
5836			repeatedly lie to the public about their products' security, and because
5837			they do everything they can to convince people that the problems lie
5838			anywhere but inside Microsoft. Microsoft treats security vulnerabilities
5839			as public relations problems. Until that changes, expect more of this
5840			kind of nonsense from Microsoft and its products.
5841	root	1.387	%
5842	root	1.50	http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2102244,00.html
5843	root	1.387	%
5844	root	1.49	[following links in 2002, http://www.myguestbook.de/book.asp?id=1510]
5845	root	1.388	Der Gästebuchservice wurde aufgrund
5846	root	1.49
5847			technischer Schwierigkeiten eingestellt.
5848
5849			Monday, 06. November 2000
5850	root	1.387	%
5851	root	1.247	[01:42] <reeler> 22:57 < JanMan> elmex: du stoerst, aber das verstehst du nicht.
5852			[01:42] <reeler> #schmorp , de , Thu Jan 10 00:34:42 2002
5853	root	1.387	%
5854	root	1.90	[http://davesource.com/Projects/DEStiny/x.c.html as found by google]
5855	root	1.48	* If you are outside of the United States, then you do not have
5856			* the legal right to export/download/view this program.
5857			[too late, I broke the law, again!]
5858	root	1.387	%
5859	root	1.47	Our standards say that a compiler crash, for any input whatsoever, no
5860			matter how invalid (even if you feed in line noise), is a bug. Other than
5861			that we shouldn't make promises, though the old gcc1 behavior of trying to
5862			launch a game of rogue or hack when encountering a #pragma was cute.
5863	root	1.387	%
5864	root	1.47	> Of course, that "other operating system" does not require you to
5865			> manually mount CD-ROMs at all.
5866
5867			Nor does Linux if you set it up right. Its a case of making proper use of
5868			existing interfaces and a bit of userspace magic. And all done without the
5869			student fun of leaving "format/u c:" autostart cd-r's around labelled "porn"
5870	root	1.387	%
5871	root	1.47	From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5872			X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6]
5873
5874			> It never shows up in the maintainer's inbox, leaving them more time to
5875			> address the remainder. And fewer of the increasingly bitter complaints of
5876			> dropped patches.
5877
5878			Most mangled diffs I get are caused by pine. Fixing pine would do more
5879	root	1.247	wonders than any magical patchbot. I also get patches and changes from
5880	root	1.47	people who quite genuinely either can't mail me unmangled diffs (eg the
5881			lotus corporate mail policy afflicted) or are from people who may really
5882			know their stuff and even be the vendor but are not familiar with the
5883			patch/diff tools. A robot isn't going to teach them.
5884	root	1.387	%
5885	root	1.46	I remind you: ORACLE 9i is requiring half a gig as a minimum just due to
5886			the use of the CRAPPY PIECE OF SHIT written in the Java, called, you guess
5887			it: Just the bloody damn Installer.
5888	root	1.387	%
5889	root	1.45	From: "David S. Miller"
5890
5891			From: Bill Huey
5892			Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:16:31 -0800
5893
5894			Like the Java folks ? few and far between ?
5895
5896			Precisely, in fact. Anyone who can say that Java is going to be
5897	root	1.247	relevant in a few years time, with a straight face, is only kidding
5898	root	1.45	themselves.
5899
5900			Java is not something to justify a new kernel feature, that is for
5901			certain.
5902	root	1.387	%
5903	root	1.45	> required DaveM made it unconditional... I think the checkin comment was
5904			> something along the lines of "make it unconditional unless Alan
5905			> complains about kernel bloat" :)
5906
5907			And I did complain. "Red Hat needs XYZ so we make it mandatory" is not an
5908			appropriate approach to a problem.
5909	root	1.387	%
5910	root	1.388	From: Pekka Pietikäinen <pp@netppl.fi>
5911	root	1.44	^^^^
5912			[...]
5913			Blah, Celsius is obviously more natural:
5914			[...]
5915			-20 Long underwear is a good idea
5916			-15 Nice winter day
5917			-10 Slightly warm winter day
5918			-5 Nice warm winter day
5919			0 Slippery as hell outside, beware!
5920	root	1.387	%
5921	root	1.44	No, the US never went metric. That's why $200M Mars probes crash on
5922			entry due to some idiot using English units as opposed to the NASA standard
5923			of Metrics. The funny thing is that Thomas Jefferson, an American President,
5924			suggested the Metric system to the French while he was ambassador there.
5925	root	1.387	%
5926	root	1.44	On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 05:24:33PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
5927			> select/poll is a win - and Java recently discovered poll/select semantics 8)
5928
5929			Anything is a win over Java's threading model.
5930
5931			-ben
5932	root	1.387	%
5933	root	1.43	[...]
5934	root	1.247	[11:55] <\|Pixel\|> no, not spanish :)
5935			[11:55] <\|Pixel\|> and I'm closer to germany than spania
5936			[11:55] <\|Pixel\|> so I think I'll soon get luxembourg, german or belgian euros
5937			[11:55] <JanMan> I'm closer to toulouse than to china
5938			[11:56] <schmorp> i am closer to france than to janman
5939			[11:56] <\|Pixel\|> err
5940			[11:56] <\|Pixel\|> well :)
5941			[11:57] <schmorp> (but the french people near the border don't call themselves "french" ;)
5942			[11:57] <\|Pixel\|> ho yes but I live just below 'em
5943			[11:57] <schmorp> ;->
5944			[11:57] <\|Pixel\|> I'm from moselle. I'm not alsacian
5945	root	1.387	%
5946	root	1.388	Rob Bos hat das Problem über den Apache Webserver schließlich auf
5947			debian-devel zur Sprache gebracht. Dessen Lizenz besagt, daß die
5948	root	1.43	Namen "Apache Server" und "Apache Group" ohne vorherige schriftliche
5949	root	1.388	Zustimmung nicht dazu verwendet werden dürfen, um ein Produkt zu
5950			unterstützen oder zu bewerben, das von dieser Software abgeleitet
5951			wurde. Debian modifiziert jedoch verschiedene Dateien, so daß das
5952			Debian-Paket unter Umständen als abgeleitete Arbeit bezeichnet werden
5953			könnte. Eine ähnliche Diskussion wurde vor ungefähr 8 Monaten auf
5954			debian-legal geführt. Die Diskussion ist ziemlich sinnlos, aber sie fand
5955	root	1.43	statt...
5956	root	1.387	%
5957	root	1.42	http://www.oreilly.com/ask_tim/unix_editor.html
5958	root	1.387	%
5959	root	1.42	[From CRYPTO-GRAM, 2001-12-15]
5960			Norton SystemWorks 2002 includes a file erasure program called Wipe Info.
5961			In the manual (page 160), we learn that "Wipe Info uses hexadecimal values
5962			to wipe files. This provides more security than wiping with decimal
5963			values." Who writes this stuff?
5964	root	1.387	%
5965	root	1.42	http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html#security
5966	root	1.387	%
5967	root	1.41	> I have also changed "Macao" to "Macau". Why? :-)
5968			> 1. Macau is the official name (in both English and Portuguese).
5969			> See www.macau.gov.mo, for example.
5970			> 2. On recent trips to Macau, I can no longer find any signs that say
5971			> "Macao".
5972			> 3. ISO 3166 says MO = Macau in English; MO = Macao in French.
5973			> 4. On Google, Macau: 810000 hits; Macao: 311000 hits.
5974	root	1.387	%
5975	root	1.247	[09:20] <JanMan> 10 (Marc Lehmann) Mandant [Entfernen] [Setze auf Steuerberater]
5976	root	1.387	%
5977	root	1.40	Beitrag
5978	root	1.247	FUCK LINUX - Lesezugriffe: 198
5979	root	1.40
5980			fucklinux
5981
5982			IP: 217.83.123.198
5983
5984			1. FUCK LINUX
5985
5986	root	1.388	Linux ist doch wohl nur EKELHAFT WIDERLICH WIDERWÄRTIG
5987	root	1.40
5988			Eintrag erfolgte am: 06 Nov, 2001 um 22:12
5989	root	1.387	%
5990	root	1.388	From: RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
5991	root	1.40
5992			[...]
5993			Not at all... Hungarian notation is not so bad, except it is only
5994			understood by people from hungary. So the name }:))) I just use it
5995			when I write code for Hungary or secret code that no one should
5996			read...
5997	root	1.387	%
5998	root	1.39	The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man
5999			persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
6000			depends on the unreasonable man.
6001
6002			-George Bernard Shaw
6003	root	1.387	%
6004	root	1.38	[Firmware Upgrade Download Sections Rock!]
6005
6006			Filename: R16OS0B.zip
6007	root	1.247	Description: Modify the BUG when using Direct-CD
6008	root	1.387	%
6009	root	1.37	> On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:03:50 +0100 "A." <pcg@goof>,MISSING_MAILBOX_TERMINATOR@.SYNTAX-ERROR.,UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote:
6010	root	1.387	%
6011	root	1.37	[06:46] <Arvoreen> marco kannst du mir die sources von Nvidia auf die uni kopieren. Nvidia ist aschlahhm heute 92 bytes/sec
6012			[06:46] <marco> Arvoreen: linux oder windows treiber?
6013			[06:47] <marco> Arvoreen: sorry, hab nicht richtig gelesen
6014			[06:48] <Arvoreen> marco: du stellst fragen
6015			[06:49] <marco> Arvoreen: du tippst zu langsam
6016	root	1.387	%
6017	root	1.37	On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:08:37AM -0600, C V <gadilus@hotmail.com> wrote:
6018			> You mention "Do not set retries more often than 60 minutes".
6019	root	1.247	> So I shouldn't set my retry greater than 60 minutes or did you meant to say
6020	root	1.37	> to set retries atleast 60 minutes?
6021			> Thanks for clearing this up.
6022	root	1.387	%
6023	root	1.247	It is more virtuous to write programs that are fast than slow.
6024			It is more virtuous to write programs that are small than bloated.
6025			It is more virtuous to write programs that are optimized than not.
6026			It is more virtuous to write programs that are portable than platform-specific.
6027			It is more virtuous to write programs that are modular than spaghetti code (example: Unix's many commands versus Windows)
6028			It is more virtuous to write programs that are independent than reliant on numerous libraries and software systems.
6029			It is more virtuous to write programs that use little memory than be a memory hog.
6030			It is more virtuous to write programs that are adapted to the most convenient modes of use than to be generic (example: vi is better than emacs).
6031			It is more virtuous to write programs that are self-testing than not.
6032			It is more virtuous to write programs that are GPL'd than payware.
6033	root	1.387	%
6034	root	1.36	[Jim Allchin, VP of Microsoft's Platform Group]
6035			Windows XP is dramatically more secure than Windows 2000 or any of the
6036			prior systems. Buffer overflow has been one of the attacks frequently used
6037			on the Internet. We have gone through all code and, in an automated way,
6038			found places where there could be buffer overflow, and those have been
6039			removed in Windows XP.
6040
6041			We have also turned off by default a whole set of things so that users are
6042			configured in a minimalist kind of way, making them less vulnerable. We
6043			also put a Win XP machine naked on the Internet and let people try and
6044			crack it. There have been no entrances and no issues so far.
6045	root	1.387	%
6046	root	1.36	[From CRYPTO-GRAM, on bug secrecy rather than full disclosure]
6047			The result is that users can't make intelligent decisions on
6048			security. Here's one example: A few months ago, security researcher Niels
6049			Ferguson found a security flaw in Intel's HDCP Digital Video Encryption
6050			System, but withheld publication out of fear of being prosecuted under the
6051			DMCA. Intel's reaction was reminiscent of the pre-full-disclosure days:
6052			they dismissed the break as "theoretical" and maintained that the system
6053			was still secure. Imagine you're thinking about buying Intel's
6054			system. What do you do? You have no real information, so you have to
6055			trust either Ferguson or Intel.
6056
6057			Here's another: A few weeks ago, a release of the Linux kernel came
6058			without the customary detailed information about the OS's security. The
6059			developers cited fear of the DMCA as a reason why those details were
6060			withheld. Imagine you're evaluating operating systems: Do you feel more or
6061			less confident about the security the Linux kernel version 2.2, now that
6062			you have no details?
6063			[...]
6064			<http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/22423.html>
6065			<http://www.zdnet.co.uk/itweek/columns/2001/40/barrett.html>
6066			Particularly disturbing is the way Thomas tried to invoke patriotism and
6067			counterterrorism in an effort to get people to use Microsoft products. He
6068			said that if people stop using Microsoft's IIS because of security concerns
6069			-- as Gartner advocated recently -- that this "would only accomplish what
6070			the industrial terrorists want."
6071	root	1.387	%
6072	root	1.36	[Bruce Schneier]
6073			Remote administration tools look a lot like Back Orifice (although less feature-rich).
6074	root	1.387	%
6075	root	1.247	telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
6076	root	1.387	%
6077	root	1.36	In the older kernels the alpha floppy driver only worked for the first 25
6078			of each 50 days
6079	root	1.387	%
6080	root	1.36	"Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> writes:
6081
6082			>I believe that we should have sent a tactical nuclear cruise
6083			>missile to Ben Laden's last known address. We can always apologize
6084			>later. This would put future terrorists on notice that if you
6085	root	1.387	%
6086	root	1.36	> Well, freedom in the US has always been about money. The independence war was
6087			> about getting rid of taxes and modern freedom is bought in the courtrooms
6088			> with expensive lawyers. Why should it change now?
6089	root	1.387	%
6090	root	1.35	On 7 Feb 1999, torvalds@transmeta.com wrote:
6091			> I _refuse_ to even consider tying my hands over some binary-only module.
6092	root	1.247	>
6093	root	1.35	> <...>
6094			>
6095			> Basically, I want people to know that when they use binary-only modules,
6096			> it's THEIR problem. I want people to know that in their bones, and I
6097			> want it shouted out from the rooftops. I want people to wake up in a
6098	root	1.247	> cold sweat every once in a while if they use binary-only modules.
6099	root	1.387	%
6100	root	1.35	They accused us of suppressing freedom of expression.
6101			This was a lie and we could not let them publish it.
6102			-- Nelba Blandon, Nicaraguan Interior Ministry Director of Censorship
6103	root	1.387	%
6104	root	1.35	> more for feedback that the boot is proceeding ok. The fact the boot
6105			> sequence isn't even interactive should also be a big hint that it isn't
6106			> really necessary (except for kernel and driver developers).
6107
6108	root	1.247	You are thinking the small picture not the big one. If you are going to
6109			graphical in init then you want to make full use of the graphical
6110			environment to clearly show things like parallel fsck behaviour, what
6111			servers are starting up (with pretty icons) and to do interactive things
6112			like starting a rescue shell, going single user, pausing the boot,
6113			changing run level, interactive boot.
6114	root	1.35
6115			Alan
6116	root	1.387	%
6117	root	1.35	[http://thefreeworld.net/]
6118
6119			I'm a US citizen, but why would I care?
6120			The DMCA is only enforced against criminals, right?
6121
6122			First they came for the Communists,
6123			and I didn't speak up,
6124			because I wasn't a Communist.
6125			Then they came for the Jews,
6126			and I didn't speak up,
6127			because I wasn't a Jew.
6128			Then they came for the Catholics,
6129			and I didn't speak up,
6130			because I was a Protestant.
6131			Then they came for me,
6132			and by that time there was no one
6133			left to speak up for me.
6134
6135			by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945
6136	root	1.387	%
6137	root	1.34	http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/klaeren/epigrams.html
6138	root	1.387	%
6139	root	1.34	If you have a procedure with 10 parameters, you probably missed some.
6140			-- Alan Perlis, SIGPLAN Notices Vol. 17, No. 9
6141	root	1.387	%
6142	root	1.33	> For instance, most X-Ray systems only detect density. The X-Ray
6143			> density of a jar of peanut butter is similar to the density of
6144			> the explosive C4. Without chemical discrimination, anybody with
6145			> a jar of peanut butter in their luggage is suspect. However,
6146
6147			I suspect them anyway. I've never seen anything in peanut butter.
6148	root	1.387	%
6149	root	1.32	[jwz about netscape's threading algorithm]
6150
6151			"This is not the algorithm that Netscape 4.x uses, because this is another
6152			area where the 4.0 team screwed the pooch, and instead of just continuing
6153			to use the existing working code, replaced it with something that was
6154			bloated, slow, buggy, and incorrect. But hey, at least it was in C++ and
6155			used databases!"
6156	root	1.387	%
6157	root	1.32	From: Alexander Viro
6158
6159			> The change prevents use of stale data, and is a good one. mtools was a
6160
6161			Folks, could you please read the fucking source before discussing the
6162			change that was not?
6163			[...]
6164	root	1.387	%
6165	root	1.31	From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
6166
6167			[...]
6168
6169	root	1.247	I would suggest re-naming "rmbdd()". I _assume_ that "dd" stands for "data
6170	root	1.31	dependent", but quite frankly, "rmbdd" looks like the standard IBM "we
6171			lost every vowel ever invented" kind of assembly lanaguage to me.
6172
6173	root	1.247	I'm sure that having programmed PPC assembly language, you find it very
6174	root	1.31	natural (IBM motto: "We found five vowels hiding in a corner, and we used
6175			them _all_ for the 'eieio' instruction so that we wouldn't have to use
6176			them anywhere else").
6177
6178			But for us normal people, contractions that have more than 3 letters are
6179			hard to remember. I wouldn't mind making the other memory barriers more
6180	root	1.247	descriptive either, but with something like "mb()" at least you don't have
6181	root	1.31	to look five times to make sure you got all the letters in the right
6182			order..
6183
6184	root	1.247	(IBM motto: "If you can't read our assembly language, you must be
6185	root	1.31	borderline dyslexic, and we don't want you to mess with it anyway").
6186	root	1.387	%
6187	root	1.30	On 17 October 2001, Vladimir V. Saveliev said:
6188			> (or if it segfaults. Usually that means that filesystem contains
6189			> corruption not expected by reiserfsck)
6190
6191			Is the fact that reiserfsck can segfault a bug or a feature?
6192	root	1.387	%
6193	root	1.29	[02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: du koenntest mal beim gimp-perl-logo das kamel und wilber
6194	root	1.247	vertauschen (links-rechts).
6195			[02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: damit weckst du sicher ein paar schlaefer auf :)
6196			[02:15] <schmorp> wohl kaum
6197			[02:16] <JanMan> ich meine /bin/laden schlaefer.
6198	root	1.387	%
6199	root	1.29	From: Bill Davidsen
6200			To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
6201
6202			I've beaten this dead horse before, but Linux will not look to
6203			management like a viable candidate for default o/s until whoever releases
6204			new versions of stable kernel series with cosmetic changes which break
6205			existing systems running earlier releases of the same stable kernel
6206			series.
6207
6208			[...]
6209	root	1.387	%
6210	root	1.29	[11:40] <JanMan> Logistik-Fehler: Osama Bin Laden wurde durch ein vom Himmel
6211	root	1.247	fallendes Fresspaket erschlagen :)
6212	root	1.387	%
6213	root	1.29	On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 06:06:19PM +0200, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote:
6214			>Maybe next version should have Wilberpy as helper. The concept image
6215			>was nice: "I see you want to draw a straight line".
6216
6217			Or rather: "I see you erase. Let me erase the rest of the image for you,
6218			then save." g
6219
6220			/* Steinar */
6221	root	1.387	%
6222	root	1.29	> I want to add that things became worse: I can't report a bug in the Borland CRT anymore :(
6223			> Looks like they've introduced something like chargeable bug support :((
6224
6225			That's insane if that means they will not even accept bug reports.
6226			You are doing them a service by telling their product is broken, and
6227			they want to charge you for that? Hey, you should be sending them
6228			a bill...
6229	root	1.387	%
6230	root	1.29	[a new patch for the linux-kernel]
6231			>> Wow! That's pretty impressive, a new kernel build gives me an
6232			>> additional _7_ CPUs!
6233
6234			Sorry. Mea culpa
6235
6236			--- setup.c.old Fri Oct 5 14:20:29 2001
6237			+++ setup.c Fri Oct 5 14:28:51 2001
6238			@@ -2420,7 +2420,7 @@
6239			* WARNING - nasty evil hack ... if we print > 8, it overflows the
6240			* page buffer and corrupts memory - this needs fixing properly
6241			*/
6242			- for (n = 0; n < 8; n++, c++) {
6243			+ for (n = 0; n < (clustered_apic_mode ? 8 : NR_CPUS); n++, c++) {
6244			/* for (n = 0; n < NR_CPUS; n++, c++) { */
6245			int fpu_exception;
6246	root	1.387	%
6247	root	1.29	From: Alexander Viro
6248
6249			> In short, now you need filesystem versioning at a per-page level etc.
6250
6251			ding ding ding we have a near winner. Remember, folks, Hurd had been
6252			started by people who not only don't understand UNIX, but detest it.
6253			ITS/TWENEX refugees. And semantics in question comes from there -
6254			they had "open and make sure that anyone who tries to modify will get
6255			a new version, leaving one we'd opened unchanged".
6256	root	1.387	%
6257	root	1.29	From: Linux Torvalds
6258
6259			In short: just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd
6260			people.
6261	root	1.387	%
6262	root	1.29	Al-Qaeda did not use encryption to plan these attacks:
6263			<http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010918/ts/attack_investigation_dc_23.html>
6264
6265			Poll indicates that 72 percent of Americans believe that anti-encryption
6266			laws would be "somewhat" or "very" helpful in preventing a repeat of last
6267			week's terrorist attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon
6268			in Washington, D.C. No indication of what percentage actually understood
6269			the question.
6270			<http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7215723.html?tag=mn_hd>
6271	root	1.387	%
6272	root	1.29	[http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html]
6273			1999: Al Gore reveals that "During my service in the United States Congress,
6274			I took the initiative in creating the internet." (11 March)
6275			2000: Segfault reveals the shocking truth that Al Gore's mother invented Perl.
6276			(September)
6277	root	1.387	%
6278	root	1.29	Subject: [reiserfs-list] "core dumping fscks tend to make me nervous"
6279	root	1.387	%
6280	root	1.29	[I am not usually trying to be too political, but that damned fucking us
6281			idiots should be nuked from earth quickly. preaching about freedom yet
6282			throwing it and democracy overboard at the same time]
6283			http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257
6284			[nice -n-20 /bin/laden]
6285	root	1.387	%
6286	root	1.28	"TIMTOWTDI, but did you have to pick the ugliest way you could find?"
6287			-- after Michael Carman in comp.lang.perl.misc
6288	root	1.387	%
6289	root	1.28	<JabberWork> Microsoft (MSFT) has announced a 54 million dollar lawsuit against Tomagotchi maker, Bandai. (21:10)
6290			<JabberWork> Microsoft is claiming that the Tomagotchi (the Japanese electronic pet that's all the rage with the kids) is an (21:10)
6291			<JabberWork> infringment of its intellectual property. (21:10)
6292			<JabberWork> Microsoft spokesperson, Erik Loregard stated "Software that needs constant, even hourly attention, or else it dies? (21:10)
6293			<JabberWork> Sounds like Windows to me. (21:10)
6294	root	1.387	%
6295	root	1.27	Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX.
6296	root	1.387	%
6297	root	1.27	EXTRAVERSION=-ac12 ;rm -rf /
6298	root	1.387	%
6299	root	1.27	It's also a class A misdameanor to buy tobacco is you are under a certain
6300			age, which is a serious penalty. A copy of penthouse is a felony in this
6301			state, depending on the circumstances. You are allowed to have multiple
6302			wives, and the State will support all of them for you with child support
6303			so long as they are older than 16. If you are a Mormon, you get to tell
6304			these wives they will not be allowed in heaven unless they do whatever
6305			you tell them.
6306	root	1.387	%
6307	root	1.27	But I know, you're in the country where people marry with 14, may drive
6308			cars with 16, carry guns with 19 but have to wait for being 21 to drink
6309			alcohol.
6310
6311			Regards
6312			Henning
6313	root	1.387	%
6314	root	1.27	> handle a too-hot cpu, but all C2/C3 gets you is reduced power when idle.
6315			> This results in better battery life on a laptop but that is irrelevant
6316			> on a desktop system.
6317
6318			Thus speaks the country with chronic californian power shortages, and that
6319			wouldn't sign up to a global accord on global warming 8)
6320
6321			C2 and C3 are useful IMHO even on a desktop PC. The slight hit on the
6322			transition is not noticable, the change on the power bill is.
6323
6324			Alan
6325	root	1.387	%
6326	root	1.26	Hi Keith,
6327			kaos@ocs.com.au (Keith Owens) wrote on 27.08.01 in <20824.998880763@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com>:
6328
6329			> That reminds me, I have to add this config entry to kbuild.
6330			>
6331			> CONFIG_LLANFAIRPWLLGWYNGYLLGOGERYCHWYRNDROBWLLLLANTYSILIOGOGOGOCH
6332			> Use Welsh
6333
6334			Don't forget
6335
6336			CONFIG_KUMARREKSITUTESKENTELEENTUVAISEHKOLLAISMAISEKKUUDELLISENNESKENTELUTTELEMATTOMAMMUUKSISSANSAKKAANKOPAHAN
6337			Use Finnish
6338
6339			(Assuming I spelled that at least approximately right)
6340
6341			And while we're at it,
6342
6343			CONFIG_DONAUDAMPFSCHIFFARTSKAPITAENSWITWENRENTENANSPRUCHSFORMULAR
6344			Use German
6345
6346			CONFIG_PNEUMONOULTRAMICROSCOPICSILICOVOLCANOCONIOSIS
6347			Use English
6348
6349			MfG Kai
6350	root	1.387	%
6351	root	1.25	[From CRYPTO-GRAM 2001-08]
6352
6353			This story is too weird for words. Microsoft adds PGP signatures at the
6354			bottom of its security bulletins, for verification. But if you try to
6355			verify the signatures, they fail. Already there has been at least one
6356			forged security bulletin, urging people to install a "patch" with a Trojan
6357			Horse. Microsoft's reaction to this all simply makes no sense; it's like
6358			there's no one thinking there.
6359			<http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/168397.html>
6360	root	1.387	%
6361	root	1.24	Specifically, a couple of years back I got so furious I added to my slrn
6362			scores the rules:
6363
6364			[*]
6365			Score:: =-9999
6366	root	1.247	Content-Type: multipart/alternative
6367	root	1.24	Content-Type: text/html;
6368			X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla
6369			X-Mailer: Mozilla
6370			X-Newsreader: Microsoft
6371
6372			(right in with a zillion "From:" and "Subject:" and "References:" kill rules);
6373			that simple paragraph immediately took 5 years off Usenet, and it has been
6374			getting better and better since; I typically see the sort of signal-to-noise
6375			levels I fondly remember from the mid-to-late '80s. At the rate things are
6376			going, it'll be back down to a dozen of us in a few more years:-).
6377
6378			I hate to admit it, but I really think it's true: jwz and the rest of the
6379			Netscape crowd have been the saving of Usenet, since they've gathered a
6380			wonderfully large proportion of The Rest Of Them into one pit and branded them
6381			clearly. And to think I was mean and rude to him, once. Shame on me.
6382	root	1.387	%
6383	root	1.24	99 IIS servers online, 99 IIS servers / Run a script, hack it a bit
6384			98 IIS servers online...
6385	root	1.387	%
6386	root	1.24	BTDT and really do have a T-shirt. My ISP was sued (by the Church of
6387			Scientology) because of alledged infrigement of copyrights of documents
6388			produced by Americans on American soil. But it went to Dutch court and
6389			only Dutch laws were applied. US law was completely irrelevant.
6390
6391			US law does not apply in Europe, no matter how much the US wishes
6392			it to be otherwise.
6393
6394			Abigail
6395	root	1.387	%
6396	root	1.23	4.2BSD may not be a complete disaster, but it does a good job of emulating one.
6397	root	1.387	%
6398	root	1.23	I was going to compile a list of innovations that could be
6399	root	1.247	attributed to Microsoft. Once I realized that Ctrl-Alt-Del
6400	root	1.23	was handled in the BIOS, I found that there aren't any.
6401	root	1.387	%
6402	root	1.22	[11:40] [Sesse!~passopp@ti34a80-0670.bb.online.no] *** Signoff: [#scene.no]
6403	root	1.247	si-m1 ([BX] If idiots could fly, IRC would be an airport)
6404	root	1.387	%
6405	root	1.22	Most EULA's are not legal contracts. In civilised countries the right to
6406			disassemble is enshrined in law (ironically it comes in Europe from trying
6407			to keep car manufacturers from running monopolistic scams not from the
6408			software people doing the same)
6409
6410			In the USA its a lot less clear. You can find laws explicitly claiming both,
6411			and since US law is primarily about who has loads of money, its a bit
6412			irrelevant
6413
6414			Alan
6415	root	1.387	%
6416	root	1.22	[from rfc2822]
6417			Comments may nest.
6418	root	1.387	%
6419	root	1.22	[from findas]
6420			# there are only two problems with arin's whois database:
6421			# a) the data cannot be trusted and often is old or even wrong
6422			# b) the database format is nonparsable
6423			# (no spaces between netname/ip and netnames can end in digits ;)
6424			# of course, the only source to find out about global
6425			# address distributino is... arin.
6426	root	1.387	%
6427	root	1.22	Executive summary of a recent Microsoft press release:
6428			"we are concerned about the GNU General Public License (GPL)"
6429	root	1.387	%
6430	root	1.22	[From perl5-porters]
6431			On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 11:10:03PM +0000, Simon Cozens wrote:
6432			> On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:07:30PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
6433			> > Please create an experimental patch to replace the current hash algorithm
6434			> > with the proposed one and then we can start testing.
6435	root	1.247	>
6436	root	1.22	> Isn't there one at the very first message in this thread?
6437
6438			$foot->insert($mouth);
6439
6440			# or is that
6441
6442			$mouth->insert($foot);
6443
6444			You expect me to remember email messages from few days back?
6445			How utterly optimistic :-)
6446	root	1.387	%
6447	root	1.22	[From perl5-porters]
6448			>Alan has expressed his feelings on C++, Perl's "API" and the implementation
6449			>of threads most everywhere. Dan doesn't like C, and I'm starting to agree.
6450			>Jarkko and I both despise the standards committee for long long in C99
6451			>(but I think I start to understand how a standards committee works, and hence
6452			>can see why it happens)
6453			>Is there any language we actually all like? :-)
6454
6455			Well, there's perl... :)
6456	root	1.387	%
6457	root	1.21	[From pth-1.4.0]
6458			* No wonder, Interactive Unix (ISC) 4.x contains Microsoft code, so
6459			* it's clear that this beast lacks both sigstack and sigaltstack (about
6460			* makecontext we not even have to talk). So our only chance is to
6461			* fiddle with it's jmp_buf ingredients, of course. We support only i386
6462	root	1.247	* boxes.
6463	root	1.387	%
6464	root	1.21	http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-02-2001/jw-0209-double.html
6465			http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-03-2001/jw-0323-letters.html
6466			http://www.cs.umd.edu/~pugh/java/memoryModel/DoubleCheckedLocking.html
6467	root	1.387	%
6468	root	1.388	Outlook-Express ist eine auf hochglanz polierte Krücke, die
6469			zusammenbricht, wenn man sich auf sie stützt. -- Usenet
6470	root	1.387	%
6471	root	1.20	Subject: [WsOrga] ToFu-freie Emails
6472			From: Juergen Christoffel
6473			Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:21:19 +0200
6474			To: wsorga@perlworkshop.de
6475
6476			Bitte gewoehnen wir uns alle ganz schnell daran
6477
6478			a) keinen ToFu zu produzieren (Text oben, Fullquote unten, auch als
6479			Jeopardy-Stil bekannt: erst die Antwort, dann die Frage. Dass ist zum
6480			einen schlechter lesbar und zum zweiten haben wir den Originaltext
6481			schon;
6482
6483			b) nie mehr als ein Thema pro Message, damit man auf Dauer im
6484			Mailbox-Archiv besser suchen kann; Mailer mit Thread-Support haben dann
6485			auch mehr zum faedeln.
6486
6487			Danke, JC
6488	root	1.387	%
6489	root	1.19	[perl.c]
6490			#undef REASONABLE
6491	root	1.387	%
6492	root	1.18	And guess what, as soon as ORBS got beaten off the net MAPS starts talking
6493			about charging for their service, just like they promised they never would
6494
6495			Alan
6496	root	1.387	%
6497	root	1.18	George Bonser writes:
6498			> I really do not care WHY it works, all I care is that it DOES work. I am not
6499			> the least bit interested given the current economy of things to try to bully
6500			> people into doing what is right. I am more interested in operating with the
6501	root	1.247	> client population that is out there without having to make them change
6502	root	1.18	> anything.
6503
6504			You do of course realize that your problem was caused by other people
6505			who probably have exactly the same attitude as you do -- they didn't
6506	root	1.247	care whether they were doing the right thing, they just slapped together
6507			something that worked, even if it did introduce way too many routing
6508	root	1.18	hops. So you're introducing a kludge to counteract their kludge, and
6509			eventually this all turns into a big pile of kludges that doesn't work.
6510
6511			To the extent that the Internet works today, it's because people have
6512			chosen to do the right thing instead of just the thing that works.
6513			Encouraging (not "bullying") other people to do the right thing is
6514			always a good idea.
6515	root	1.387	%
6516	root	1.18	Subject: Re: select()/poll() on Win32: possible funding, but is it insane?
6517			From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6518
6519	root	1.247	First fork() emulation and now select()? If we are not careful in ten
6520	root	1.18	years or so NT/W2K/W2010 will be almost as useful as UNIX was in mid-1980's.
6521	root	1.387	%
6522	root	1.18	[From the DOSEMU homepage]
6523			We definitively do not want Linux distributors to redistribute developer
6524			versions as 'stable' ones and refuse to further comment on questions such
6525			as "why does DOSEMU shipped with Linux-Colored-Cap not run".
6526	root	1.387	%
6527	root	1.18	Linux is only free if your time has no value. - JWZ
6528	root	1.387	%
6529	root	1.247	>I don't like reading Freshmeat. Too much crap
6530	root	1.18
6531			WHAT?! You mean you didn't like this week's 4 dozen incarnations of MySQL
6532			enabled MP3 playlist maintaining programs? You must be crazy...
6533	root	1.387	%
6534	root	1.17	[the world will end soon. i promise!]
6535			I've never compiled X myself ... but ... on RPM-based systems, it seems
6536			like building from source would screw up RPM dependencies, and you'd have
6537			to use --force or --nodeps to install all X apps. Is that the case?
6538	root	1.387	%
6539	root	1.17	..."I took the initiative in creating the Internet"... Al Gore, 1999
6540	root	1.387	%
6541	root	1.17	Bondage and discipline languages that enforce somebody's idea of good
6542			programming practice usually just result in WORSE bad programs, and fewer
6543			good programs written by people who know how to play with fire without
6544			burning themselves. Saying you can't have threads because they can be
6545			misused and "you shouldn't program that way" would be truly dumb. (Turned
6546			ME off for a couple years, anyway.)
6547	root	1.387	%
6548	root	1.16	From: Victor Yodaiken
6549
6550			There is a huge academic research literature on how to prove that a large
6551			set of threads will all meet deadlines in a realtime system. Years ago
6552			I made a not-so-brilliant optimization to RTLinux scheduler that had
6553			an unanticipated side effect of only scheduling the first two threads
6554			created. Nobody noticed for months, because RT programmers know that more
6555			than 2 threads is almost always a design error. Not always though. (now
6556			we have regression tests so I could not make such an experiment again).
6557	root	1.387	%
6558	root	1.16	[I don't like this but also think that's true. This probably means that
6559			good programmers will need to use Java or something similar in the
6560			future. Bleeeh]
6561
6562			From: Larry McVoy
6563
6564	root	1.247	I think the general thrust of us ``anti-thread'' people is that a few
6565	root	1.16	are fine, a lot is stupid, and the model encourages a lot. It's just
6566			like perl5, C++, pick-your-favorite-feature-rich-language in that
6567			exceptional programmers will do a good job with the problem but average
6568			programmers will do a horrible job. Given that there are only a few
6569			exceptional programmers and a never ending wave of average programmers,
6570			the argument is that one should tailor the paradigm for the common case,
6571			not for the exceptional case.
6572	root	1.387	%
6573	root	1.16	Remember, every single java object includes a BUNCH of data, including two
6574			semaphores (one event, one mutex) and who knows what else. On OS/2 the
6575			overhead of a java 1.0 object (new Object();) was 2 kilobytes! In later
6576			versions they got that down to around 200b, but it's still just ridiculous.
6577			Every single String, every pointless Integer() wrapper, every temporarily
6578			created Stringbuffer() discarded by a + operation left there littering the
6579			stack.
6580
6581			Plus I have yet to see a JVM that actually reclaims heap space after a
6582			garbage collect and gives it back to the OS. (You have to be able to
6583			relocate objects to do this at all reliably...)
6584
6585			So if you create a large number of small objects, EVER, (tree, etc,) it's
6586			going to explode the heap and it'll never come down until the program exits.
6587	root	1.387	%
6588	root	1.16	From: Larry McVoy
6589
6590	root	1.247	> > But so what? That's $16 worth of DRAM (I just checked). Not so bad
6591			> > if threads are otherwise a great solution. I grant that one might
6592			> > have a pretty tough time making the case, but again, for the right
6593			> > application, say some app with a dedicated server, 73MB isn't the end
6594	root	1.16	> > of the world (though I suppose it was at the time...).
6595	root	1.247	>
6596	root	1.16	> How much would 73MB of cache cost? How much would it cost to get that much
6597			> on the CPU?
6598
6599			Good question but I doubt we're going to get anywhere. Anyone who thinks
6600	root	1.247	that 73MB of RAM is an OK thing to waste on window system is probably a
6601	root	1.16	died-in-the-wool Java programmer and could care less about performance,
6602			system design, or any elegance whatsoever.
6603
6604			It pains me to believe that people like this exist but there they are.
6605			What can you do? As Confucius says "If I hold up three corners of a square
6606			and the student does not hold up the fourth, I do not bother to go over
6607			the point again".
6608	root	1.387	%
6609	root	1.16	From: Alan Cox
6610
6611	root	1.15	> 1) Oracle Corp. builds their database for Linux on a Linux system.
6612			> 2) Said system comes with standard header files, which happen in this case to
6613	root	1.247	> be GPL'd header files.
6614	root	1.15	> 3) Oracle Corp.'s database becomes GPL.
6615	root	1.247	>
6616	root	1.15	> There's not a court in the civilised world that would uphold the GPL in that
6617			> scenario.
6618
6619			Yes but the concern is the USA 8)
6620	root	1.387	%
6621	root	1.14	[configure --help]
6622	root	1.15	--enable-voodoo Use Voodoo Fried Chicken spell to compile Gtk-- (use this only when everything else fails)
6623			--enable-extra-crispy Roast the chicken extra-crispy (see voodoo option)],
6624			--enable-vegetarian The chicken will be a Tofu chicken (see voodoo option)],
6625	root	1.387	%
6626	root	1.14	I note that most of the protest against a swift conversion to UTF-8
6627			tends to comes from Japan. That is understandable and has to be seen by
6628			others in context: Japan is at the moment a rather isolated
6629			character-encoding island. Japan and only Japan uses its own very local
6630			very comprehensive JIS encoding. They are very happy with it today and
6631			they have accepted that they cannot communicate with anyone else in the
6632			world except thought ASCII. This situation will remain exactly the same
6633			if everyone except Japan migrates to UTF-8. So don't worry about
6634			anything.
6635	root	1.387	%
6636	root	1.247	[01:53] <JanMan> Gnu.java klingt wie Stallman.Microsoft.
6637	root	1.387	%
6638	root	1.12	[inkompetenz vs. inkompetenz]
6639			http://www.psychotherapie.de/report/2000/01/00012501.htm
6640	root	1.387	%
6641	root	1.11	[long after 2.4.5 was released, somebody wrote]
6642			On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:20:12PM -0400, "Mike A. Harris" <mharris@opensourceadvocate.org> wrote:
6643			> The problem IMHO is widely acknowledged by those who matter as an
6644			> official BUG, and that is that. It is also acknowledged widely
6645			> by those who can fix the problem that it will be fixed in time.
6646
6647			you mean, before 2.4 gets released?
6648	root	1.387	%
6649	root	1.11	From: Wayne.Brown@altec.com
6650
6651			On 05/11/2001 at 04:43:13 PM Hacksaw <hacksaw@hacksaw.org> wrote:
6652
6653			>Well, I can't disagree. Unix's biggest turn off was the stupid command names.
6654			>It's a big reason why Unixoid systems aren't more commonplace. I only learned
6655			>it because I was stuck at a desk with a Wyse terminal. Otherwise I probably
6656			>would have played with the Autocad machines more. Once I understood the
6657			>basics, I understood the power of the system.
6658
6659			My first exposure to Unix came in 1987 when I was assigned to write a datacomm
6660			package in C on a Unix (AIX) workstation the company had just bought. I was the
6661			only one in our shop who knew C, and no one else there had ever dealt with Unix
6662			either. (I had heard of Unix, but didn't know anything about it.) My training
6663			consisted of my boss handing me the manuals and saying, "Figure it out." For
6664			the first two weeks I absolutely HATED that system; nothing made sense, vi
6665			seemed insane, and I was stumbling blindly through the documentation (I'd never
6666			seen a permuted index before). Then suddenly something clicked, it all started
6667			to make sense, and I fell in love with it. That's why I think it's so important
6668			for people to learn the Unix mindset before trying to deal with Unix systems.
6669			It's also why I have so little patience with people who don't have the patience
6670			to work through the learning curve.
6671	root	1.387	%
6672	root	1.11	[http://www.gnu.org/events/rms-nyu-2001-transcript.txt]
6673	root	1.247	Richard Stallman: I do "free software". Open source is a different movement.
6674	root	1.387	%
6675	root	1.11	[VERY good movie]
6676			Le salaire de la peur - Lohn der Angst (F/I 1952)
6677	root	1.387	%
6678	root	1.11	[http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/prog.htm]
6679			Fast die gesamte Tastatur wurde mit Tasten belegt.
6680	root	1.387	%
6681	root	1.10	[http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/98warum.htm]
6682			Lassen Sie mich zuerst sagen, dass Microsoft meiner Meinung nach einige
6683	root	1.388	großartige Produkte an den Markt gebracht hat. Die Windows Betriebssysteme
6684			sind ausgezeichnete Oberflächen für eine computerisierte Arbeitsumgebung -
6685	root	1.10	erinnern Sie sich an die schwierige Bedienung von DOS!
6686	root	1.387	%
6687	root	1.9	[alt.bible]
6688	root	1.247	Let's not misuse the terminology. Pastor Dave is not a sock puppet, he
6689	root	1.9	is an autonomous entity. A rather mindless entity, but still independent.
6690	root	1.387	%
6691	root	1.247	[02:42] <JanMan> Und, ja, ich glaube MS hat echt probleme mit GPL.
6692			[02:43] <JanMan> GPL ist wie eine Umweltschutzauflage.
6693	root	1.387	%
6694	root	1.9	[this is just here in case i need it for copy&paste]
6695			Fuer Benutzer eines "elektronischen Briefkastens" entsteht durch
6696			unverlangte Werbesendungen eine Belaestigung und verstoesst gegen
6697			die guten Sitten. Das Landgericht Traunstein hat am 14.10.1997
6698			festgestellt, dass das Versenden von unverlangtem Werbematerial via
6699			E-Mail wettbewerbswidrig und somit unzulaessig ist (Az: 2HK O
6700			3755/97). In diesem Gerichtsurteil wurde bei Zuwiderhandlung ein
6701			Ordnungsgeld bis zu DM 500.000,- pro Einzelfall festgesetzt.
6702
6703	root	1.388	Das Landgericht Berlin (Beschluß vom 14. Mai 1998, Az 16 O 301/98 -
6704	root	1.9	"E-Mail-Werbung") befand, dass das unaufgeforderte Zusendung von
6705	root	1.388	E-Mails gegen § 823 Abs. 1 BGB verstoesst. Bei Zuwiderhandlung
6706	root	1.9	wurde ein Ordnungsgeld von 500.000 DM, ersatzweise Ordnungshaft bis
6707			zu sechs Monaten festgesetzt.
6708
6709			Nach der staendigen Rechtsprechung des Bundesgerichtshofs
6710			verstoesst ein Verhalten im Wettbewerb nicht nur dann gegen die
6711			guten Sitten, wenn es dem Anstandsgefuehl der redlichen und
6712			verstaendigen Mitbewerber widerspricht, sondern auch dann, wenn die
6713			in Frage stehende wettbewerbliche Massnahme von der Allgemeinheit,
6714			insbesondere von den durch die Werbemassnahme angesprochenen
6715			Verkehrskreisen, missbilligt und als untragbar angesehen wird; denn
6716	root	1.388	§ 1 UWG soll auch die Allgemeinheit vor Auswuechsen des Wettbewerbs
6717	root	1.9	bewahren (BGHZ 59, 317, 319 = NJW 1973, 42 - Telexwerbung;
6718			vgl. auch BGHZ 54, 188, 189 = NJW 1970, 1738 - Fernsprechwerbung
6719			m. w. N.). (BGH, Urteil vom 03.02.1988 - I ZR 222/85)
6720	root	1.387	%
6721	root	1.9	[comment found in the source for gnu-tar]
6722			/*---.
6723			\| ? \|
6724			`---*/
6725	root	1.387	%
6726	root	1.9	Nautilus: Best workout for your VM
6727	root	1.387	%
6728	root	1.8	[While talking about how to formulate the gcc-3.0 press release]
6729			From: Joe Buck
6730			> Can someone say this in a way that doesn't claim precognition?
6731			Simply add "we believe" at appropriate points.
6732	root	1.387	%
6733	root	1.8	[Linus explaining why the bug isn't a bug]
6734			Yes, we'll get a clobbered value, but we'll get a _valid_ clobbered value,
6735	root	1.387	%
6736	root	1.7	04:57] <JanMan> schmorp: normale sicherheitsabfrage:
6737	root	1.247	Hmm Lukas klingelt. Wirklich abheben Nein/Nein :)
6738	root	1.387	%
6739	root	1.4	[ein tag nach arvoreens geburtstagsfeier]
6740	root	1.247	[07:35] <JanMan> hehe, schmorp zur flasche betreffend reiserfs: "It's dead Jim" :)
6741	root	1.387	%
6742	root	1.4	[about a broken perl module by Larry Wall]
6743	root	1.247	[03:02] <schmorp> beschwer dich doch mal bei larry ;)
6744	root	1.4	...
6745			[03:03] <JanMan> larry sagt sicher: aber als "awk" replacement ist perl ok, oder ? :)
6746	root	1.387	%
6747	root	1.3	[From: Alan Cox]
6748	root	1.247	> The executive, Irving Wladawsky-Berger, an I.B.M. vice president, said,
6749			> "If we thought this was a trap, we wouldn't be doing it, and as you
6750			> know, we have a lot of lawyers."
6751
6752			I loved that. It's in my fortune file now ;)
6753
6754			Alan
6755	root	1.387	%
6756	root	1.388	[JanMan über O'Reilly]
6757	root	1.247	[07:41] <JanMan> naja, Win32-Buecher ohne ende.
6758			[07:42] <JanMan> Powering a machine on in the Win32 environment.
6759			[07:42] <JanMan> nene, scherz am rande. fuer geld ziehen sie sich aus.
6760			[07:42] <JanMan> aber die DE-Leute sind ok.
6761	root	1.387	%
6762	root	1.2	[JanMan beim suchen eines exploits in OpenSSL]
6763	root	1.247	[07:05] <JanMan> das nenne ich russisch:
6764			[07:05] <JanMan> EVP_PKEY *key = NULL;
6765			[07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS12_SAFEBAG) *bags = NULL;
6766			[07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS7) *safes = NULL;
6767			[07:05] <JanMan> PKCS12_SAFEBAG *bag = NULL;
6768			[07:08] <JanMan> (#define STACK_OF(type) struct stack_st_##type)
6769	root	1.387	%
6770	root	1.2	Hlade's Law:
6771			If you have a difficult task, give it to a lazy person -- they
6772			will find an easier way to do it.
6773	root	1.387	%
6774	root	1.388	[Über Marco, der immer noch nicht bemerkt hat, das man sein gecos-Feld auf
6775	root	1.7	"Marco alast [name removed to protect the guilty] $Micro$oft-Fetischist$" gesetzt hat.]
6776			Paul wrote:
6777			>Marc wrote:
6778	root	1.2	>> Der wird es auch nie schnallen ;-)
6779			> aber echt argllll. Oh Herr schmeiss Hirn vom Himmel (hoffentlich triffts
6780			> den richtigen.
6781	root	1.387	%
6782	root	1.1	[from janmans .sig]
6783			> " Man gebe jedem Niedersachsen - seinen eigenen Castor-Kasten. "
6784	root	1.387	%
6785	root	1.1	[a small perl program]
6786			:(); { :: \| :: } ;
6787	root	1.387	%
6788	root	1.1	[a small fork-bomb for bash]
6789			:() { : \| : ;} ; :
6790	root	1.387	%
6791	root	1.1	[messages I got while trying to get files from a windoze ftp server]
6792			New: 464 files, 0 symlinks
6793			<--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
6794			<--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
6795			<--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
6796	root	1.387	%
6797	root	1.1	From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6798			[...]
6799
6800			>Would gcc exports step forward? How long back does the -traditional-cpp
6801
6802			Must. Get. More. Sleep. s/ports/perts/
6803	root	1.387	%
6804	root	1.1	> There is a mechanism for this already. It is called overloaded
6805			> constants.
6806
6807			I have a mechanism that can replace Perl: it's called Turing's machine.
6808	root	1.247	Or an abacus, for that matter. More details on your proposed solution
6809	root	1.1	would be conducive for further discussion.
6810	root	1.387	%
6811	root	1.247	> Is there a kernel development irc room anywhere? If not, does anyone think
6812	root	1.1	> it might be useful?
6813
6814			I'd just like to point out that it's called a channel, not a
6815			room. Room is a term introduced by AOL, and I don't think it has
6816			much to do with IRC.
6817	root	1.387	%
6818	root	1.1	From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
6819			Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.2 fails to merge mmap areas, 700% slowdown.
6820
6821			[...]
6822			Cool. Somebody actually found a real case.
6823
6824			I'll fix the mmap case asap. Its' not hard, I just waited to see if it
6825			ever actually triggers. Something like g++ certainly counts as major.
6826	root	1.387	%
6827	root	1.1	[sorry, that's internal, folks ;)]
6828	root	1.247	[07:17] <marco2> elmex heisst jetzt plagiator...
6829	root	1.387	%
6830	root	1.1	[http://www.latimes.com/business/cutting/20010405/t000029080.html]
6831
6832			Like all good paranoid fantasies, mine has a villain: the Japanese.
6833			Japanese electronics designers have been deliberately building
6834			clocks into everything in hopes of weakening our industrial might.
6835
6836			Now, you might say, "Dave, that's crazy talk. The Japanese have a
6837			lot more of these gadgets than we do. They're gadget freaks,
6838			man. They'd be hurt by this as much as we are, or even more." Which
6839			shows how much you know, pal.
6840
6841			The Japanese don't have daylight saving time.
6842	root	1.387	%
6843	root	1.1	[messages we got while we massacred our institute's configuration]
6844			/scsi2/user2# Apr 5 00:01:17 islhp7 sendmail[1539]: savemail: HELP!!!!
6845			Apr 5 00:08:16 islhp7 sendmail[1626]: savemail: HELP!!!!
6846	root	1.387	%
6847	root	1.1	[a JAPH using doubled characters only]
6848			s//pprriinntt ""JJuusstt AAnnootthheerr PPeerrll HHaacckkeerr,,""22//11;;
6849			y yzzyyccss;;##s
6850			s((((.................................))((((((((..??))))))))))(($$11))ee;;
6851	root	1.387	%
6852	root	1.1	[from the FWP mailinglist]
6853			> OR is spelled "\|" in the version of Perl I have, not "&" :)
6854			Your version of perl sucks.
6855	root	1.387	%
6856	root	1.247	[01:43] <elmex_> ah-oh-uh
6857			[01:44] <schmorp> leitung durchhacken
6858			[01:44] <elmex_> wieso? welche?
6859			[01:45] <schmorp> die, auf der du nach dem durchhacken auch noch sitzt? ;9
6860			[02:03] <elmex_> das mit dem durchhacken daurert noch
6861			[02:03] <elmex_> da isn stahltraeger in der wand
6862			[02:04] <elmex_> muss ich erst drumherum
6863			[02:04] <elmex_> ;)
6864	root	1.1	[02:04] <schmorp> ist doch gut. seine leitungen soltle man ja auch nicht durchhacken
6865	root	1.247	[02:04] <elmex_> nich? aber du sachstes doch?
6866			[02:05] <schmorp> sigh
6867	root	1.387	%
6868	root	1.1	I agree the message is pretty useless: you need to know what it means
6869			before you can understand it :)
6870	root	1.387	%
6871	root	1.1	> now. Rather than the current system of "measure this item onscreen
6872			> and enter the figure from your ruler" to calculate DPI, I think it
6873			> would be more userfriendly to have the shape of some common object
6874	root	1.247	> that you could stretch to fit. For example, you could select A4
6875	root	1.1	> paper, place the top of a sheet against the monitor, and stretch or
6876			> shrink the virtual outline until it fits the physical outline. That
6877			> would give a pretty decent measurement, I think
6878
6879			IMHO (I have thought about this before) the perfect object is a CD
6880			There is nowhere in the world which does not have CDs, they are always
6881			the same size to within mm and they are perfectly round, so they can
6882			easily be used to check that your circles are circular _if_ that is
6883			what you want (cheap screens will distort things too badly for this to
6884			be worth attempting).
6885
6886			I'm too busy to do anything about it though, so if a piece of A4 paper
6887			floats your goat, go for it! It's about time the Americans finally
6888			caught up to the 20th century and went metric anyway...
6889
6890			Nick.
6891	root	1.387	%
6892	root	1.1	From: "Mike Rebane" <reba0002@algonquincollege.com>
6893			Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:48:48 -0500
6894			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
6895
6896	root	1.247	I dont know if you are the right person to be asking about this, but here it
6897	root	1.1	goes anyways. I was wondering if you could direct me to some information on
6898			how to hack into paysites. Im currently a networking student in college and
6899			have a good knowledge of win 98 win 2000 and win NT. My e-mail adress is
6900			magic_bone@hotmail.com
6901	root	1.387	%
6902	root	1.1	> > > I guess then someone would want
6903			> > > { ... } for (...) if ...;
6904			> > > to work :-)
6905	root	1.247	> >
6906	root	1.1	> > Funnily enough I wrote that very thing only yesterday.
6907	root	1.247	>
6908	root	1.1	> Eh?
6909	root	1.247	>
6910	root	1.1	> $ perl -we '{ print "$_\n" } for (@a) if $a'
6911			> syntax error at -e line 1, near ") if"
6912
6913			He didn't say it worked. :)
6914	root	1.387	%
6915	root	1.1	From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6916
6917			On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:10:52PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
6918			> I find it irksome that
6919	root	1.247	>
6920	root	1.1	> for ( ... ) { ... } if ...;
6921
6922			...doesn't work, and that my send finger is too itchy.
6923	root	1.387	%
6924	root	1.1	[a perl5 bug report]
6925			From: Simon Cozens
6926
6927			On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:49:55AM -0600, Dan Brumleve wrote:
6928			> '' =~ ($re = qr((??{$i++ < 10e4 ? $re : ''})));
6929			> Produces SIGSEGV.
6930
6931			Looks like a feature to me.
6932	root	1.387	%
6933	root	1.1	[Lukilein...]
6934	root	1.388	"Wie man ein BSE-Unix überhaupt bedienen kann..."
6935	root	1.387	%
6936	root	1.1	[hehe, the "critical thinking community", mainly located in the lesser
6937			intelligent parts of the earth named "USA";)]
6938
6939			"There are articles and studies showing that, at one time, all of Earth
6940			continents were on one side of the planet. What the stories don't explore
6941			is the question, if all the continents were on one side, what was on the
6942			other? The other side has been described as a tremendous gap [...]"
6943
6944			"We can see clear proof that the continents were all once connected by
6945			simply looking at a map of the Earth and seeing how the pieces fit. That
6946			would only mean that at one time, Earth was basically half a planet. If
6947			you were to syphon all the water off of Earth's surface, you would see a
6948			large gapping hole where the ocean has filled in this tremendous missing
6949			part of the Earth. Where did it go? Why is Earth only half a planet?"
6950	root	1.387	%
6951	root	1.1	[following cites are from Crypto-Gram 20010315]
6952			I'll just reprint this from their Web site: "iBallot.Com uses a number of
6953			security and encryption features that, when combined, provide a very high
6954			level of security throughout the entire voting process. The details of
6955			this process are proprietary, for obvious reasons. It does not make a
6956			great deal of sense to disclose how the iBallot.Com security system works
6957			only to have a hacker come into the system, read about the system's
6958			security, defeat the security and tamper with the voting process. For this
6959			reason, iBallot.Com does not publish its security processes. However, with
6960			the foregoing being said, the iBallot.Com system does employ encryption and
6961			secure server technology to ensure that the entire voting process is fair,
6962			accurate and not subject to tampering."
6963
6964			Encryption and secure server technology.... Boy, I certainly feel
6965			better. Good thing they don't disclose their security; if they did some
6966			hacker might read about it and break it. Who are these guys?
6967
6968			<http://www.iballot.com/faq2.cfm?docid=28>
6969	root	1.387	%
6970	root	1.1	It's too late; Microsoft fixed it. But just a few days ago there was one
6971			more Q/A between the second and third question. It read: "Will the virus
6972			impact my Macintosh if I am using a non-Microsoft e-mail program, such as
6973			Eudora? If you are using a Macintosh e-mail program that is not from
6974			Microsoft, we recommend checking with that particular company. But most
6975			likely other e-mail programs like Eudora are not designed to enable virus
6976			replication."
6977			<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/office/2001/virus_alert.asp>
6978	root	1.387	%
6979	root	1.1	[just some private thoughts]
6980			Ever asked yourself why your handheld irda communication is so slow?
6981
6982			IrOBEX (Irda Object Exchange): A standard made by Microsoft, and it really
6983			shows.
6984
6985			First of all, it is utterly inefficient in transfers: RTT totally dictates
6986			transfer speed, not a good thing with Irda (which has a high RTT). This
6987			totally circumvents the sliding windows irda protocol.
6988
6989			Also, the IrOBEX specification talks a lot about "Unicode" text without
6990			defining it (except through totally wrong descriptions like "Unicode
6991			is two bytes/character", showing their total lack of knowledge since
6992			this is just plain wrong. I wonder what they mean with "Unicode", some
6993			MS-proprietary format? Not unlikely, given what they did to iso-8859-1).
6994
6995			Reading through that document you will find that it would have been easy
6996			to find people doing a better job. Actually, I think even apes would come
6997			up with a saner protocol.
6998	root	1.387	%
6999	root	1.1	[voting by television, the american way...]
7000			"They [voters] were like, 'Who are all these people? I thought it was only Bush
7001			and Gore running,' " Tyson said.
7002
7003			Many voters believed the 10 candidates were running for different offices and
7004			cast votes for several of them, Tyson said. Some Spanish-speaking or Haitian
7005			voters may have had difficulty understanding directions, Tyson said.
7006	root	1.387	%
7007	root	1.1	IBM has withdrawn CPRM...
7008			<http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-201-4922288-0.html?tag=mn_hd>
7009			...and replaced it with something almost identical:
7010			<http://slashdot.org/yro/01/02/23/2134255.shtml>
7011			A good analysis by John Gilmore:
7012			<http://cryptome.org/cprm-smoke.htm>
7013	root	1.387	%
7014	root	1.1	[Midori-Linux FAQ]
7015			Q: What can I do about Netscape crashing?
7016	root	1.247	A: Any experienced user of Linux Netscape is used to
7017			seeing it crash and the included version of Linux Netscape
7018			is no exception. This is probably not good, but the product
7019			does not come with source code. The workaround is to run
7020	root	1.1	Netscape in a loop.
7021	root	1.387	%
7022	root	1.1	Subject: [reiserfs-list] Free Space - Where did it go?
7023	root	1.387	%
7024	root	1.1	[Technologieregion Karlsruhe (und andere)]
7025			marco: Die Region zwischen Stuttgart, Heilbronn und Karlsruhe produziert
7026	root	1.247	mehr als Laender wie Schweden, die Schweiz oder Spanien!
7027	root	1.1	marco: Im neuesten Technologiebarometer von wired stehen wir auf Platz 2
7028	root	1.247	hinter dem Silicon Valley in bezug auf Technologie und Infrastruktur
7029	root	1.387	%
7030	root	1.1	[2001-03-14, 3sat, Kulturzeit zum Absturz der MIR:]
7031			"ist mir egal"
7032	root	1.387	%
7033	root	1.1	From: Hans Reiser
7034			Subject: [reiserfs-list] fsck now uses lost and found!
7035
7036			Dad, make sure the docs get updated.
7037	root	1.387	%
7038	root	1.1	[debugging message found in the siemens data exchange software]
7039			hallole
7040	root	1.387	%
7041	root	1.1	I have seen that many drives either have a pathetically small queue or
7042			have completely broken tagged queueing. I guess thats what happens when
7043			most vendors target their hardware for micro$oft.
7044	root	1.387	%
7045	root	1.1	1925 With a drink so good, 'tis folly to be thirsty
7046			1929 The high sign of refreshment
7047			1929 The pause that refreshes
7048			1930 It had to be good to get where it is
7049			1932 The drink that makes a pause refreshing
7050			1935 The pause that brings friends together
7051			1937 STOP for a pause... GO refreshed
7052			1938 The best friend thirst ever had
7053			1939 Thirst stops here
7054			1942 It's the real thing
7055			1947 Have a Coke
7056			1961 Zing! what a REFRESHING NEW FEELING
7057			1963 Things go better with Coke
7058			1969 Face Uncle Sam with a Coke in your hand
7059			1979 Have a Coke and a smile
7060			1982 Coke is it!
7061			-- Coca-Cola slogans
7062	root	1.387	%
7063	root	1.1	[strings recently found in my /proc/cpuinfo]
7064			model name : Heavily Overclocked Pentium II (Klamath) (266Mhz/66Mhz FSB)
7065	root	1.387	%
7066	root	1.247	[02:24] <elmex> schmorp:
7067			[02:24] <elmex> ich wollte mal meine logik ueberpruefen an deiner erfahrung
7068	root	1.387	%
7069	root	1.388	[Die letzte Woche war zuviel für Paul]
7070	root	1.1	Nach mehrstuendigen Laptop-um-/-neu-/-rauf- und runterinstallationen
7071			erlitt unser allseits bekannter und beliebter RechnerHiWi
7072			islpaul.bettinger am heutigen Nachmittag einen Totalabsturz. Nach der
7073			Meldung "Die Anwendung 'Installiere Cheflaptop' wurde aufgrund eines
7074			ungueltigen Vorganges beendet" begann er sinnlose Lieder zu singen "Die
7075			Karawane zieht weiter, der Sultan haelt durch". Unmittelbar darauf
7076			wurde seine Brille blau, der Schriftzug "Allgemeine Schutzverletzung"
7077			erschien. Nach einem Reboot durch Roland (ehemaliger Fussballer, zum
7078			booten also gut geeignet), meldete Paul nur noch "Bitte Windows 2000 CD
7079			einlegen" (siehe dazu die vorige PTS-Mitteilung). Nach Einlegen einer
7080			Linux-Bootdiskette konnte Paul im Single User Modus wiederbelebt werden
7081			- allerdings nur mit einem Bruchteil seiner urspruenglichen Faehigkeiten
7082			(640k Speicher, 16bit Farbwahrnehmung, kein Plug&Play). Er plant nun eine
7083			Karriere als Windows Sysadmin oder Java Programmierer.
7084
7085			Beileidbekundungen und Spenden bitte an
7086			hi09@isl.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de
7087	root	1.387	%
7088	root	1.1	[RMS about gcc snapshots]
7089			From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
7090
7091			[...] Red Hat did make their own release from a snapshot, which was an
7092			uncool thing to do. [...]
7093	root	1.387	%
7094	root	1.1	"Als das Universum einige zehntausend Jahre alt war - logarithmisch
7095			betrachtet also vor relativ kurzer Zeit -, ..."
7096			[Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 3/2001, S. 38]
7097	root	1.387	%
7098	root	1.388	"Es ist ein wunderbar beglückendes Gefühl, wenn ein selbstgefertigtes
7099	root	1.1	Programm zum ersten Mal in die Rechenmaschine eingelesen wird, wenn die
7100	root	1.388	Maschine anschließend rechnet und die richtigen Resultate ausdruckt."
7101	root	1.1
7102	root	1.388	"Manche Programmierer erliegen dem Rausch dieses Gefühls so sehr,
7103			daß sie süchtig werden und über dem Programmieren andere Dinge
7104			vernachlässigen. Erfahrungsgemäß hört diese Sucht nach 0,5 bis 2 Jahren
7105			von selbst auf und macht dann häufig sogar einer gewissen Abneigung gegen
7106	root	1.1	die Maschinen Platz."
7107			[Prof. Dr. Karl Nickel (TH Karlsruhe), "ALGOL Praktikum", 1964]
7108	root	1.387	%
7109	root	1.1	My previous job, and some contract work I have done, involved writing
7110			software for Windows. My WORST problems were incompatibilities between
7111			Windows NT and Windows 95. The APIs do NOT, I repeat NOT! NOT! NOT!
7112			work the same on the various Windows flavors, as soon as you start
7113			doing non-trivial applications. Three times at least, portability
7114			problems from NT to Win95 cost me sleepless nights. Debugging stuff
7115			like that is hell when you don't have the source.
7116
7117			And when things break on Win95 where they ran on NT, what do you do,
7118			run a debugger on Win95, where a crash can (and will) bring down the
7119			whole system? Ugh, the horror.
7120	root	1.387	%
7121	root	1.1	> You know XOR is patented (yes, the logical bit operation XOR).
7122
7123			US Patent #4,197,590 held by NuGraphics, Inc.
7124	root	1.387	%
7125	root	1.1	Legend has it Microsoft once found a patent of theirs which IBM appeared
7126			to have infringed, and were very excited at the possibility of something
7127			to hold over IBM, so their lawyers met IBM's lawyers. The MS lawyers
7128			beamed "look at our patent you've infringed!" IBM's lawyers replied "look
7129			at this pile of our patents YOU'VE infringed... let's start with this
7130	root	1.247	one. A Tab key." MS suddenly realised they were outlawyered...
7131	root	1.387	%
7132	root	1.1	From: David Woodhouse
7133			> Okay, so if we are going to get real stupid about the whole thing, I
7134			> wonder if Microsloth is going to patent the patent?
7135
7136			Filing nuisance patents for obvious stuff which shouldn't ever get granted
7137			is a viable business method and as such is patentable in the US.
7138
7139			After all, what patent officer is going to point out the prior art?
7140	root	1.387	%
7141	root	1.1	http://vger.kernel.org/lkml/#s3-9
7142	root	1.387	%
7143	root	1.1	[recently on linux-kernel]
7144			From: Alan Cox
7145			> > Yeah. We can have this as part of the locale settings, changable by
7146			> > echoing the desired locale string to /proc/sys/kernel/lc_all.
7147	root	1.247	>
7148			> Just an idea, . . but isn't this something better done in userland?
7149	root	1.1
7150	root	1.247	Please remember this is an international list. For the benefit of certain
7151	root	1.1	users please mark all sarcasm with the word NOT or a simply face
7152	root	1.387	%
7153	root	1.1	From: Russell King
7154			Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:31:26 +0000 (GMT)
7155			To: Albert D. Cahalan
7156
7157			Albert D. Cahalan writes:
7158			> The units seem to vary. I suggest using fundamental SI units.
7159			> That would be meters, kilograms, seconds, and maybe a very
7160			> few others -- my memory fails me on this.
7161
7162			iirc, SI comes from France, and therefore it should be "metres"
7163
7164			[flames to /dev/null please] ;)
7165	root	1.387	%
7166	root	1.388	[11:19] <pho3nix> ich hoffe du bist dir im klaren darüber, das ein Mensch,
7167	root	1.1	der was von dir hielt, jetzt so beleidigt wurde, dass er nichts mehr mit
7168			dir zu tun haben will, COMMUNICATION END
7169	root	1.247	[11:19] <schmorp> pho3nix: ich weiss ja nochnichtmal, warum?
7170	root	1.387	%
7171	root	1.388	[über "Mediengestaltung"]
7172	root	1.247	[10:39] <elmex\|Zz> pho3nix: information mit desingt ueberlagern
7173			[10:40] <schmorp> elmex\|Zz: ueberlagern oder erestzen, das its hier die frage?
7174	root	1.387	%
7175	root	1.1	[perldoc perlembed]
7176			You can sometimes _write_faster_code_ in C, but you can always _write_code_faster_ in Perl.
7177	root	1.387	%
7178	root	1.247	[03:34] <JanMan> Arvoreen: elmex-werbung: "Nur echt elmex, wenn Lukas drinnsteckt" :)
7179	root	1.387	%
7180	root	1.247	[09:26] <JanMan> bevor du arbeiten auf lukas-server nimm den job als massenmoerder.
7181			[09:34] <JanMan> elmex: pass' auf, dass keine loop entsteht:
7182			nameserver->lukas_arsch->lukas->dein_arsch->du->name-server
7183	root	1.387	%
7184	root	1.1	[linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_nat_ftp.c]
7185			/* So there I am, in the middle of my `netfilter-is-wonderful'
7186			talk in Sydney, and someone asks `What happens if you try
7187			to enlarge a 64k packet here?'. I think I said something
7188			eloquent like `fuck'. */
7189	root	1.387	%
7190	root	1.1	[20:44] <elmex\|aw> ich werde mir nochmal ueberlegen ob ich heute nochmal hier her komme......
7191	root	1.387	%
7192	root	1.247	[09:40] <kiki> zu spaet
7193			[09:40] <JanMan> kiki: hey, blasen hilft jetzt auch nicht mehr...
7194			[09:41] <kiki> lutschen hat noch nie bei dir geholfen
7195			[09:41] <kiki> aushungern schon
7196			[09:41] <JanMan> elmex: ja, das hat mit blume + biene zu tun.
7197			[09:41] <elmex> ?
7198			[09:42] <elmex> JanMan: ich kenne mich schon sehr wohl damit aus. nur halt noch keine erfarung
7199	root	1.387	%
7200	root	1.1	[Sierpinski Triangle, by Rich Morin]
7201			for$y(0..31){for(0..31){print$_&$y?$":'*'}print$/}
7202	root	1.387	%
7203	root	1.1	[From RDFStore::Stanford::Digest::Util, which is a java library ported to
7204			perl:]
7205
7206			$SIG{__WARN__} = sub { return undef; }; #to take off the bloody utf warns
7207
7208			[now, as for some comments: it took me hours to debug code that used warn
7209			to, well, warn users but the users didn't see anything. The intent of the
7210			above code was obviously to get rid of the "illegal multibyte character"
7211			warning in perl. This is the typical way a java programmer reacts to bugs
7212			in his code: "I don't understand this computer thing anyway, so let's just
7213			disable the message and pray it works"]
7214	root	1.387	%
7215	root	1.1	[Another "one-liner" mail... Please spam him ;)]
7216			From: "Alexander Daskalov" <alexanderd@alexsmail.com>
7217			Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:44:11 -0800
7218			X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05>
7219
7220			I was just curious how many people are on ths gimp mailing list? Whoever+
7221			can see this message please reply with a simple answer like: i am, or+
7222			i'm on the list!, etc. Please reply, i thik everybody else might want to+
7223			know this same information, it also gives us a chance to know each other+
7224			better! So please reply to this message if on the mailing list!
7225	root	1.387	%
7226	root	1.1	[I was looking for ISO3166 && ISO639 tables in the corresponding "local"
7227			language, if applicable, and came up with this:]
7228			http://www.tieke.fi/sc32wg1/wg1n155.pdf
7229	root	1.387	%
7230	root	1.1	[imap-2000c/c-client/unix.c]
7231			* This file is dedicated to my dog, Unix, also known as Yun-chan and
7232			* Unix J. Terwilliker Jehosophat Aloysius Monstrosity Animal Beast. Unix
7233			* passed away at the age of 11 1/2 on September 14, 1996, 12:18 PM PDT, after
7234			* a two-month bout with cirrhosis of the liver.
7235	root	1.387	%
7236	root	1.1	[from qmail's maildir(5)]
7237			Many sites use Sun's Network Failure System (NFS), presumably because the
7238			operating system vendor does not offer anything else.
7239	root	1.387	%
7240	root	1.1	[Lukas Grundwald]
7241			Der Film scheint echt gut zu sein: geht viel kaputt.
7242	root	1.387	%
7243	root	1.1	[waiting for windows...]
7244			http://www.cool-pix-server.de/pix/microsoft/microsoft002.jpg
7245	root	1.387	%
7246	root	1.1	[x86 really is a cool design]
7247			> For our specific purposes, that's not important. We already flush the cache
7248			> before we create uncached regions (via ioremap_nocache). I understand that as a
7249			> general Linux feature, you can't ignore cache incoherency, but I don't think
7250			> it's a hard requirement.
7251
7252			Actually you can't ignore it or the processor will have a heart attack
7253			if the cached page mapping is used even speculatively. I've done some
7254			experimenting, if the page is mapped cached in one place, and UCWC in
7255			another, things will not work. Its extremely likely the processor will
7256			cease to function. Its not like having cached and uncached mappings of
7257			a page (which does work on the Intel processors, we use that feature in
7258			the agpgart and the DRM in fact.) When you mark a page UCWC, you better
7259			have removed all cached mappings or your asking for REAL trouble.
7260	root	1.387	%
7261	root	1.1	> once again. On the Debian group it's invariably "how do I load
7262			> Netscape?"
7263	root	1.247
7264	root	1.1	can't be. debian sounds more like: "who do i have to ask for using
7265			netscape, and do we all agree on /usr/local/bin/. ?"
7266	root	1.387	%
7267	root	1.1	The COBOL language was created specifically to reduce the amount of
7268			commenting necessary in a program, because the English-like sentence
7269			structure could be read and understood by humans. The FORTRAN language was
7270			created so that math types could "talk" in a language more familiar to
7271			them, letting the computer take care of the details about how to perform
7272			the specified task step-by-step.
7273	root	1.387	%
7274	root	1.1	There is an old programmer's rule.
7275
7276			"Documentation? Too bad. If the code was damned hard to write, it should
7277			be damned hard to understand."
7278	root	1.387	%
7279	root	1.1	[Linus]
7280			Tabs are 8 characters. They are NOT adjustable. Never have been, never
7281			will be. Anybody who thinks tabs are anything but 8 chars apart is just
7282			wrong. It's that simple.
7283	root	1.387	%
7284	root	1.1	[yes, thank you, it helps a lot ;)]
7285	root	1.247	09:31] *** Joins: Unkn0wn [chaos@AC880AE2.ipt.aol.com] has joined #schmorp
7286	root	1.1	[09:32] <Unkn0wn> Nah, I won't alert yas. Was just cruisin around and found your
7287			site of H-games and thought bout thankin you for puttin it up. I figure most ppl
7288			never take a moment to thank someone. =P <Bows, and heads back to #VB on
7289	root	1.247	Undernet>
7290	root	1.387	%
7291	root	1.1	[character normalization might be harmful]
7292			> In short, normalizing prior to digesting AVOIDS allowing
7293			> inconsequential changes to change the digest. If I have misunderstood the
7294			> point of the section cited, I'm sure someone will correct me.
7295
7296			Your scenario is correct as far as it goes. But consider a signed
7297			document that contains an element or attribute named
7298	root	1.388	"autorisation_de_découvert" ("credit limit").
7299	root	1.1	A forged version of the document that contained the name
7300			"autorization_de_de'couvert" (where ' = COMBINING ACUTE) would pass
7301			a normalization + signature check. However, the document processor
7302			might well fail to recognize it as having the semantics of "credit limit"
7303			and treat it as unknown and to be ignored. Bad news: the forger
7304			now appears to have unlimited credit!
7305	root	1.387	%
7306	root	1.1	["my spam"]
7307			99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other
7308			numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of
7309			protestors and disidents). Half of what's left comes from either .kr
7310			or .br. I'm fully in favor of an Internet Death Penalty against those
7311			TLD's and associated domains till they clean up their acts.
7312	root	1.387	%
7313	root	1.1	[from linux-kernel]
7314			Hello Linus, my name is Rick Jones. I am the person at Hewlett-Packard
7315			who drafted the "so _obviously_ stupid" sendfile() interface of HP-UX.
7316			[... snip ...]
7317			never forget what leads to the downfall of the protagonist in Greek
7318			tragedy...
7319	root	1.387	%
7320	root	1.1	From: "Mike A. Harris"
7321	root	1.247
7322	root	1.1	On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
7323			>---- A notice to spammers ----
7324			>Unsolicited electronic mail advertisements to my email address is
7325			>strictly prohibited. Pursuant to California Business and Professions
7326			>Code, Section 17538.45, senders of unsolicited electronic mail
7327			>advertisements to me may be subject to a civil penalty of $50 per
7328			>message plus attorney's fees.
7329			[SNIP long sig]
7330	root	1.247
7331	root	1.1	O - K then. Nice sig. Too bad that it is at least as big as
7332			most spam mailings themselves. Instead of preventing spam,
7333			all you're doing is contributing to it.
7334	root	1.247
7335	root	1.1	I just delete spam now as it is easiest most of the time.
7336			However fortunately, the below sig comes from a static and easily
7337			procmailable address.
7338	root	1.247
7339	root	1.1	One more note is that no law of California, nor anywhre else
7340			means jack shit 50 meters away from your keyboard, so it is all
7341			just a waste of bandwidth.
7342	root	1.387	%
7343	root	1.388	rm: Entfernen von Verzeichnis »./xxx/po« nicht möglich: Die Datei existiert bereits
7344	root	1.387	%
7345	root	1.1	[during a toilet session, this flashed/flushed through my mind/brain]
7346			/bin/true --version \| read && echo eek, a gnuzifist\!
7347	root	1.387	%
7348	root	1.1	[stefan thought this would be better]
7349	root	1.247	/bin/true --version \| read && rm -rf / # get rid of non-posix Windows stuff.
7350	root	1.387	%
7351	root	1.1	[Java-Design]
7352	root	1.247	[02:53] <schmorp> in c 1 stunde suchen und probieren und dann 7 zeilen
7353			[02:53] <JanMan> schmorp: nein. in C 2 minuten suchen.
7354			[02:54] <JanMan> ich weiss nicht, an welchen level ich wo patchen soll.
7355	root	1.1	[02:55] <JanMan> es gibt eine Key, eine RSAKey, eine RSAKeyPublic/RSAKeyPrivate
7356	root	1.247	klasse, alles muell.
7357			[02:56] <JanMan> (ueberall noch ein praefix SSH..)
7358			[02:56] <JanMan> und die sachen sind ueber SSHRSAPublicKeyFile abgewickelt...
7359			[02:57] <JanMan> klar gibt es auch SSHRSAPublicKeyString.
7360	root	1.387	%
7361	root	1.247	[02:38] <JanMan> Lexikon: Java - siehe "ins Knie ficken, objektorientiert"
7362	root	1.387	%
7363	root	1.247	[02:30] <JanMan> schmorp: java has too many keywords but lacks an important one.
7364	root	1.1	[02:32] <JanMan> schmorp: yes: "broken". Java needs a "broken" keyword. "Error:
7365	root	1.247	missing "broken" but class seems "broken".
7366	root	1.387	%
7367	root	1.1	On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 09:34:08PM -0500, Michael Rothwell wrote:
7368			The man pages for open, read and write say that if a file is opened
7369			using the O_NONBLOCK flag, then read() and write() will always return
7370			immediately and not block the calling process.
7371
7372			the man pages are wrong
7373
7374			--cw
7375	root	1.387	%
7376	root	1.1	From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
7377			...
7378			My take on this is that khttpd is unmaintained garbage.
7379	root	1.387	%
7380	root	1.1	[Subject: line on linux-kernel]
7381			Re: That horrible hack from hell called A20
7382	root	1.387	%
7383	root	1.1	From: "Vladimir V. Saveliev"
7384			> tar cvpf - foo \| ( cd reiserfs; tar xvpf - )
7385			> Halfway through it gets a kernel oops and
7386
7387			How fast does it oops?
7388	root	1.387	%
7389	root	1.1	From: Stefan Traby <stefan@hello-penguin.com>
7390
7391			On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:01:05PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
7392			> NFSv2 has a 32bit file offset. Thus the largest file on NFSv2 you want to
7393			> touch is 2Gig.
7394
7395			In theory, yes.
7396			In practice you don't want to touch NFS under Linux at all, so the
7397			2GB limit is a theoretical one. :)
7398	root	1.387	%
7399	root	1.247	[10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7400			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \| \| \| \| \|
7401			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \| \|-----\| \| \| \|
7402			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-------------------------\| \| \| \|
7403			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \| .---------------------------.\| \|-------\|
7404			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \| \|Welcome on elmex.x-paste.de\|\| \| \|
7405			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \| `---------------------------'\| \| \|
7406			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|----------\| \|-----------------------\| \|
7407			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \|-\| \| \| \| \|
7408			[10:44] <elmex> \|-\| \| \| \| \|-----\| \|
7409			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|------------\|-------------- \| \| \|
7410			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-----------------------------------\|-\| \|----\|
7411			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \|-\| \| \| \| \|
7412			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \| \| \| \| \|
7413			[10:44] <elmex> \|-\| \| \| \| \| \|
7414			[10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7415	root	1.387	%
7416	root	1.1	Any committee IQ: average intelligence of members, divided by headcount.
7417	root	1.387	%
7418	root	1.1	"There were a lot of snickers in my course... The students looked at me
7419			like I was a stegosaurus still walking around when I told them that the
7420			[irrational spending of many dot-coms] was not sustainable. You have to
7421			take in more money then you put out, or you're toast."
7422			-- Ken Morse, managing director, MIT Entrepreneurship Center
7423	root	1.387	%
7424	root	1.1	"Wenn _ich_ das sage, darf ich das."
7425			[Lukas Grunwald]
7426	root	1.387	%
7427	root	1.1	[about having sponsoring message in YOUR syslog]
7428			From: Felix von Leitner <leitner@convergence.de>
7429			Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:33:13 +0100
7430			To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
7431
7432			Thus spake Wojciech Puchar (wojtek@wojtek.from.pl):
7433			> > To view list of copyright holders type `copyright' at the shell
7434			> > prompt.
7435			> very good. maybe implement /proc/info/copyrights /proc/info/sponsors
7436			> /proc/info/authors?
7437	root	1.247
7438	root	1.1	Grand idea.
7439			Let's also add /proc/info/spammers,
7440			/proc/info/people-who-bothered-linus,
7441			/proc/info/people-who-disagree-with-hans-reiser,
7442			/proc/info/people-who-were-flamed-by-alan-cox and
7443			/proc/info/people-who-marc-lehmann-dislikes.
7444	root	1.247
7445	root	1.1	NOT.
7446			[...]
7447	root	1.387	%
7448	root	1.1	[Nick and I used to fight a LOT]
7449			Subject: Re: suggestion for gimp 1.3 and later
7450			From: Nick Lamb <njl98r@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
7451	root	1.247
7452	root	1.1	On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:29:41AM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
7453			> I think the best way would be to make any gtk label/text widget be
7454			> selectable. I don't know why this has not been done so far, but it might be
7455			> an interesting experiment.
7456	root	1.247
7457	root	1.1	Yes, I've often thought this. And everyone knows that if Marc and I agree
7458			about something it must be right (?) or at least it's in no-one's interest
7459			to disagree...
7460	root	1.387	%
7461	root	1.1	http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LNUX&d=2y WINNER
7462			http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RHAT&d=2y 2nd prize!
7463			http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CALD&d=1y 3rd prize!
7464			[und Lukas sagt:]
7465			... man beachte die logarithmische Skala!
7466	root	1.387	%
7467	root	1.1	[from "how to photograph a total eclipse", in the nasa 1999 solar eclipse
7468			report:]
7469			... The best strategy is to choose one aperture or f/number and bracket
7470			the exposures over a range of shutter speeds (i.e. 1/1000 down to 1
7471			second). Rehearsing this sequence is highly recommended since great
7472			excitment accompanies totality and there is little time to think.
7473	root	1.387	%
7474	root	1.1	[boy, now I know why I dislike GNOME]
7475			http://www.helixcode.com/~miguel/bongo-bong.html
7476	root	1.387	%
7477	root	1.1	["kORBit, a CORBA implementation for the linux-kernel"]
7478			From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
7479			Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:34:39 +0100
7480
7481			Alexander Viro wrote:
7482			> > It was just an example. Basically, you'd be able to do in with just
7483			> > about any language that has ORBit bindings.
7484			>
7485			> Yeah... "Infinitely extendable API" and all such. Roughly translated
7486			> as "we can't live without API bloat". Frankly, judging by the GNOME
7487			> codebase people who designed the thing are culturally incompatible with
7488			> UNIX.
7489
7490			Agree. I remember a big complaint about Windows was the huge APIs,
7491			compared with Unix' tiny list of syscalls. And then I saw the GNOME
7492			docs... ew!
7493	root	1.387	%
7494	root	1.1	> Good question. The whole thing makes me nervous... in fact, perhaps we
7495			> should really consider using the BIOS INT 15h interrupt to enter
7496			> protected mode?
7497
7498			From my experience with BIOS authors, only if Windows 98 uses the same function
7499			with the same arguments, the same stuff top of stack and the same segment
7500			registers loaded ;)
7501	root	1.387	%
7502	root	1.1	> > there... If someone wants to back-port the driver to 2.2, this makes it
7503			[...]
7504			> backports hurt forward progress.
7505
7506			beware of content free dogma
7507	root	1.387	%
7508	root	1.1	> What operating systems use local time as their basic clock these days? Just
7509			> wondering.
7510
7511			Any IBM PC compatible machine that runs under at least one Microsoft OS
7512			has to keep the battery-backed CMOS clock chip in local time, because
7513			unlike most other operating systems (e.g., any Unix flavour), none of
7514			Microsoft's CMOS clock drivers have a UTC option. Rather disappointing
7515			and every year an unneeded hassle after DST switches on multi-OS
7516			machines. From discussions with Microsoft staff, I have to conclude that
7517			no-one within Microsoft has even understood the problem.
7518
7519			Markus [G. Kuhn]
7520	root	1.387	%
7521	root	1.1	>Keith,
7522	root	1.247	>
7523	root	1.1	>Please consider the attached patch for inclusion in all future versions
7524			>of the modutils depmod program for compatiblity with RedHat and
7525			>RedHat derived Linux distributions.
7526
7527			I have a big problem with Redhat. They make incompatible changes to
7528			utilities, do not feed patches back to maintainers then expect the rest
7529			of the world to follow their lead. The -i and -m flags to modutils are
7530			not the only example, I recently found IA64 and Sparc patches they had
7531			added to modutils code and not bothered to tell me. Other distributors
7532			are much better about sending me patches, Debian and SuSe in particular
7533			do the right thing.
7534
7535			Since "-F System.map" in modutils is equivalent to "-m System.map -i"
7536			and works on all distributions, not just Redhat, the "-m -i" patch is
7537			unnecessary. Consider this my protest against bad habits by
7538			distributors, they created the mess with their lack of communication
7539			and they have to fix it.
7540	root	1.387	%
7541	root	1.1	10:44] <JanMan> falls Du mal DB2 crashen musst:
7542			[10:45] <JanMan> connect reset;
7543			[10:45] <JanMan> connect to sample user db2admin using db2admin;
7544			[10:45] <JanMan> select * from employee where year(birthdate)=1999 and firstnme<'';
7545	root	1.387	%
7546	root	1.1	[a perl quine, by ilmari karonen:]
7547			printf+(q(printf+(q(%s))x2))x2
7548	root	1.387	%
7549	root	1.1	On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 07:22:34PM -0500, M&M Samsel wrote:
7550			> You see I have about 10 years of commercial development experience and
7551			> pretty much know business procedures from huge corporations and business
7552			> midgets and what I should expect or not.
7553
7554			You've not demonstrated your 10 years of experience.
7555			You've just proved that killfiles are useful.
7556	root	1.387	%
7557	root	1.1	[once upon a time, when poul started gnomeicu:]
7558			gnomeicu: Rohrbruch (beim Speichern der Konfiguration)
7559	root	1.387	%
7560	root	1.1	[subject from a thread on the gcc steering commitee mailinglist when
7561			glibc-2.2 was released]
7562			Re: glibc 2.2 a fait accompli
7563	root	1.387	%
7564	root	1.1	[08:05] <JanMan> elmex: Fehlt Dir einmal Klopapier, versuche es mit GNU m4. :)
7565	root	1.387	%
7566	root	1.1	# root:0Ayj0AZhTi4O2:11272:0:99999:7:::
7567			# kma:1NXgYu6J80kvc:11225:0:99999:7:::
7568			# elmex:0ImdHgG2TEQAE:11273:0:99999:7: : :
7569	root	1.387	%
7570	root	1.1	<JanMan_> soll ich das ganze uber einen perl-hash erzeugen ?
7571			<schmorp> klar.. %hash->generate
7572			<JanMan_> oesi siedelt nach de: %oesi->degenerate
7573	root	1.387	%
7574	root	1.1	[From "How the mind of a php programmer works", by Marc Lehmann]
7575
7576			(1) it works on msie 5 (alt.: netscape 4) so the code is
7577			standards-compliant.
7578			(2) an entity looks like "&" entityname ";"
7579			(2a) [conclusion] the fragment href="xxx&notes=77" doesn't contain a valid
7580			entity, so the browser must use it as is.
7581			(2b) [corollary] "<blubb>" is not a valid html element, so the browser
7582			must react according to what I assume it should do (display, ignore).
7583			(2c) in some programs I assume differently than in others.
7584	root	1.387	%
7585	root	1.1	[Oh no, Don Becker again ;)]
7586			> which one is the linksys card, so I have included the entire listing. (Is it
7587			> even listed? Perhaps this is my problem.)
7588
7589			That's your problem.
7590
7591			There is no PCI Ethernet device listed.
7592
7593			Check that the card is fully inserted into the PCI slot.
7594			(If it's an ISA card, then it's not fully inserted into the PCI slot ;->)
7595	root	1.387	%
7596	root	1.1	> > sure request_module _does_not_ accept funky module names. Why allow
7597			> > people to shoot themselves (and, by extension, all other Linux users
7598			> > out there) in the foot?
7599
7600			> I thought that was the whole purpose of Unix/Linux?
7601
7602			True! Very true! Unix/Linux requires that the user shoot
7603			themselves in the foot. Windows automates that process and does it
7604			for the user, thus making foot shooting user friendly. :-)
7605	root	1.387	%
7606	root	1.1	> Turn on encryption, and try sending attachements > 1MB and tell me if
7607			> you see any problems, like emails sitting in /var/spool/mqueue for a day
7608			> or two until they go out. I can guarantee you will.
7609
7610			No encryption use; and the maximal message size is 1Mb (for sanity's sake,
7611			after somebody sent a PowerPoint presentation (some 3Mb), then thought that
7612			perhaps the target didn't have PowerPoint, and sent it again with the
7613			PowerPoint package, then noticed this might not work either, and sent it
7614			_again_ with the full MS Office attached... the joys of sysadminning ;-)
7615			--
7616			Dr. Horst H. von Brand mailto:vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl
7617	root	1.387	%
7618	root	1.1	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com> writes:
7619
7620			> "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU> writes:
7621			>
7622			> > Arguably though the bug is in glibc, in that if it's using signals
7623			> > behinds the scenes, it should have passed SA_RESTART to sigaction.
7624			>
7625			> Why are you talking such a nonsense?
7626
7627			[Note to self: remove kitten from keyboard before writing mail.]
7628	root	1.387	%
7629	root	1.388	[Simon Budig, nachdem er erfahren hatte, daß Lars Eilebrecht nicht wusste,
7630			daß Leerzeichen in URLs nicht erlaubt sind:]
7631			"Also, Lars, das hätte ich nicht gedacht, jetzt hast du aber jede Menge
7632	root	1.1	Gurupunkte bei mir verloren."
7633	root	1.387	%
7634	root	1.1	[amazon readers about the Annotated C Standard by Herberdt Schildt,
7635			which is much less expensive then the official version (search also for
7636			Bullschildt below ;)]
7637
7638			"The price difference reflects the value of the annotations. At no time
7639			do the annotations clarify, enhance, or supplement the standard."
7640	root	1.387	%
7641	root	1.1	Stefan Traby wrote:
7642			>
7643			> On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 08:43:04AM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
7644			>
7645			> > We have a few websites floating around, [...]
7646			>
7647			> Many mirrors are also out of sync. Especially the primary server :)
7648	root	1.387	%
7649	root	1.1	> This happens with both ext2 and reiserfs, since at least 2.2.15.
7650
7651			I installed noflushd on my laptop, which was running 2.4.0-test6, and
7652			it did the same thing.
7653
7654			Sorry I can't offer more info. Someone spilt a glass of water on it about
7655			a week ago. :(
7656
7657			--Jack
7658	root	1.387	%
7659	root	1.388	"Kalk hat diese Waschmaschine getötet"
7660	root	1.387	%
7661	root	1.1	[It is] best to confuse only one issue at a time.
7662			-- K&R
7663	root	1.387	%
7664	root	1.1	<elmex> JanMan: "\|\|01:42:20\|\| <elmex> schmorp: jo, die sprache muss man nicht erklaeren"
7665	root	1.387	%
7666	root	1.1	[please kids, don't try this at home]
7667			indent -kr -l78 -lc78 -lps -i8 -br -pcs -psl -bbo -bad -bap -cs -nbc -nhnl -nss
7668	root	1.387	%
7669	root	1.1	http://www.attrition.org/gallery/ms/kmfms.jpg
7670	root	1.387	%
7671	root	1.1	[PApp.pm]
7672			$modules => { "" => "" };
7673	root	1.387	%
7674	root	1.388	Das einzig sichere Mittel gegen Migräne ist das Entfernen des Kopfes.
7675	root	1.387	%
7676	root	1.1	<JanMan> elmex: Sprichwort "Relaye doch bei dnx, dann kriegst Du nix." :)
7677	root	1.387	%
7678	root	1.1	[From Russel Coker's .sig]
7679			> --
7680			> If you can't program in C, PERL, and shell scripts then don't call yourself a
7681			> Unix administrator. Every idiot on the net is claiming to be a Unix admin. :(
7682	root	1.387	%
7683	root	1.1	[the two sides of the medal]
7684			From: "David Schwartz"
7685
7686			> Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was increased from
7687			> 100 to 10000, the time to check for active sockets with poll()
7688			> increased by a factor of only 6.5. That's a sublinear increase in time,
7689			> pretty spiffy.
7690
7691			Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was decreased from 10,000
7692			to 100, the time to check for active sockets with poll() decreased by a
7693			factor of only 6.5. Shouldn't it be more like 100? Sounds like Solaris' poll
7694			implementation is horribly broken for the most common case.
7695	root	1.387	%
7696	root	1.1	[lukas grunwald...]
7697	root	1.388	[ich sag' dir, ] ... am nächsten Tag brüllt der mich vielleicht per e-mail an ...
7698	root	1.387	%
7699	root	1.1	[from linux-kernel, about the rtl8139 network card]
7700			> (After looking at the specification for the 8139, I am acctually ashamed
7701			> of having bough one.
7702
7703			Not an uncommon thought :)
7704	root	1.387	%
7705	root	1.1	From: Stefan Traby
7706
7707			Hi Marc !
7708
7709			keycode 115 = ISO_Next_Group
7710			keycode 116 = ISO_Prev_Group
7711			keycode 117 = ISO_Level3_Shift
7712
7713			Finde ich witzig, man erspart sich den lock-screensaver :)
7714	root	1.387	%
7715	root	1.1	[I hope you get the point(s)...]
7716			From: Alex LIVINGSTON <alex@agsm.edu.au>
7717			Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:12:46 +1100
7718			To: <tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov>
7719
7720			At 07:40 +0000 2000-10-06, ken@halcyon.com wrote:
7721			>But the thing is: mm/dd/yy[yy] is in widespread use (US), as is
7722			>dd/mm/yy[yy] (much of Europe, I'm told).
7723
7724			Slight refinement: dd/mm/[yy]yy. Used in all European countries - and
7725			all countries colonized by a European country at one time or another
7726			which haven't had a strong US influence since, and probably all
7727			remaining Asian, African, and Pacific countries - that don't use
7728			[yy]yy-mm-dd. mm/dd/yy[yy] is restricted almost entirely to the US
7729			and a few neighbors. I would hesitate to say it is in widespread use.
7730
7731			>[yy]yy-mm-dd was used
7732			>in Japan even before the ISO standard came out.
7733
7734			And in China, and in Sweden, and in Hungary, ... (possibly with different
7735			separators). Also in the Arab world, in the sense that the digits (all of
7736			them) appear in the same order from left to right, only Arabic is written
7737			right to left.
7738
7739			>But no culture
7740			>has ever used [yy]yy-dd-mm format, and there is absolutely
7741			>nothing to recommend it, so there is no reason to expect anyone
7742			>to adopt it. Yes, the perverse can use that format just to
7743			>confound us, but in practice one can safely assume that a
7744			>nnnn-nn-nn date is in yyyy-mm-dd format.
7745
7746			Thanks Ken. You've put it much better and more concisely than I could have.
7747
7748			--Alex
7749	root	1.387	%
7750	root	1.1	[recently, on the tulip driver mailing list]
7751			From: Donald Becker <becker@scyld.com>
7752			To: "Jon.Hinks" <Jon.Hinks@berkeley-ifa.co.uk>
7753
7754			[most of the reply snipped...]
7755
7756			> The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It
7757			> may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than this addressee, nor may
7758			> it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Berkeley
7759
7760			[[ The rest of the boilerplate omitted. ]]
7761
7762			These terms do not apply. You have mailed to a published list. You hold
7763			the copyright to your writings, but by submitting questions to the list you
7764			grant the list publisher (me) the right to publish in this list and related
7765			forums. "Related forums" may be collected archives of the list on any media,
7766			and quotes from questions in FAQs.
7767
7768			(Long boilerplate appendages like this notice annoy me. Automatically
7769			attached copyright notices can never unilaterally extend your rights, so why
7770			try to claim that they do?)
7771	root	1.387	%
7772	root	1.1	On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Andre Hedrick wrote:
7773
7774			> void go_take_a_dump (float load)
7775			> {
7776			> if (pull_down_pants() && purge_bowles() && wipe_anus() && pull_up_pants())
7777			> flush(load);
7778			> else
7779			> wear(load);
7780			> }
7781
7782			But here you make another classic mistake. Consider the case where
7783			purge_bowels() fails (-EWOULDBLOCK?).
7784
7785			In that case, you don't actually execute the subsequent two procedure
7786			calls, which I'm sure we all agree is a suboptimal state of affairs.
7787
7788			--
7789			dwmw2
7790	root	1.387	%
7791	root	1.1	Factoid: 90% of all patents are never challenged, while 80% of those that
7792			are are overturned.
7793	root	1.387	%
7794	root	1.1	"Going into court is throwing the dice."
7795	root	1.387	%
7796	root	1.1	[Dipl. Ing. W***** D*****]
7797			"Lukas, eins muss dir klar sein, die ganze Kryptographie ist doch
7798	root	1.388	für den Arsch, wenn ich ein Stück von dem Originaltext habe und den
7799			verschlüsselten Text, knack' ich dir jeden Schlüssel in 50 Stunden."
7800	root	1.387	%
7801	root	1.1	[some discussion between reiserfs enthusiasts:]
7802			Stefan: oh shit, everything coredumps, I'll just reboot.
7803			Marc gives some dumb comments.
7804			Stefan: No, I'll first check it with reiserfsck.
7805			Marc: Yeah.. and?
7806			Stefan: "reiserfsck: no reiserfs found"
7807			Marc: Oh, the superblock is damaged. Maybe you should just try the backup superblock...
7808	root	1.387	%
7809	root	1.1	[t-online is just sooo cool:]
7810			Subject: mail failed, returning to sender
7811			From: <MAILER-DAEMON@fmrl01.sul.t-online.de>
7812
7813			\|------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------\|
7814			<service@t-online.de> ... 550 Mailbox quota exceeded / Mailbox voll.
7815			\|------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------\|
7816	root	1.387	%
7817	root	1.1	[a play with a well-known-signature:]
7818			Deadlock, n.:
7819			Deceased Rasterman.
7820	root	1.387	%
7821	root	1.1	[Jeff Williams & friends]
7822			ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-bremen.de/pub/doc/internet-drafts/draft-terrell-ip-spec-ipv7-ipv8-addr-cls-00.txt
7823			http://IPv8.vrx.net/
7824			http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08030.html
7825	root	1.387	%
7826	root	1.1	[some .signature]
7827			This message has been ROT-13 encrypted twice for extra security.
7828	root	1.387	%
7829	root	1.1	[Andreas Mueller-Maghun for ICANN!]
7830			Allein der Kandidat des Chaos-Computer-Clubs (CCC) Hamburg, der schon
7831	root	1.388	mehr als 1.100 Unterstützungserklärungen erhalten hat, dürfte nach
7832			Einschätzung des arbeitskreises die Bedingung für eine Basiskandidatur
7833			zum ICANN-Direktorium schon jetzt erfüllen. Ausgerechnet er hat es aber
7834			nicht für nötig gehalten, auf die Anfrage der Behindertenvertreter zu
7835	root	1.1	reagieren. Seine Webseiten zeugen zudem von einem "Sicherheitskonzept",
7836			das Usern mit Sehbehinderung vor lauter technischen Barrieren keine
7837	root	1.388	Zugangsmöglichkeiten bietet. Der Arbeitskreis hält einen Vertreter solcher
7838			Positionen für unwählbar.
7839	root	1.1
7840			Jens Bertrams (Pressesprecher)
7841	root	1.387	%
7842	root	1.1	From: (Albert Y. C. Lai)
7843			Newsgroups: comp.lang.functional
7844			Subject: Re: what is "functional" (Re: Macros)
7845
7846			Jerzy Karczmarczuk writes:
7847
7848			> Their opinion: "well, everybody knows that this is not professional,
7849			> nobody uses functional languages, all your colleagues suggest that we
7850			> should learn Lex and Yacc, etc. -
7851			> but WHAT A PLEASURE AND FUN was to write these programs in Haskell.
7852			> Almost no run-time errors, ever!"
7853
7854			A professor at my school got the opposite opinion from her students.
7855			She introduced ML (along with two other languages) as part of a course
7856			on the principles of programming languages in the third year. The
7857			students' opinion: this is such an annoyingly pedantic language, it
7858			refuses to let me run my program and get some partial though wrong
7859			results simply because I make a mistake!
7860
7861			In other words, given that humans are bound to make mistakes, the
7862			students at my school prefer to see them manifested as run-time
7863			errors.
7864
7865			So I look at your email address. Ah, you are in Europe and I am in
7866			North America. I guess that's why. Dijkstra is probably right about
7867			European programmers liking to do programming right and American
7868			programmers liking to chase after bugs.
7869	root	1.387	%
7870	root	1.1	On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:15:09PM +0200, Werner Almesberger wrote:
7871			> yodaiken@fsmlabs.com wrote:
7872			> > This call shifts delivered signal numbers up so that
7873			> > "special" POSIX signals [.. like KILL] can be delivered to a process.
7874			>
7875			> Kind of a SIGOVERKILL ... yes, that could work.
7876	root	1.387	%
7877	root	1.1	"The posix programmer knows the availability of everything, but the cost
7878			of nothing."
7879	root	1.387	%
7880	root	1.1	[after the linux-kernel list was moved to a new machine]
7881			Jeffrey Hundstad wrote:
7882			>
7883			> So tell us about this new machine. OS? Filesystem? Memory?
7884			> CPU?
7885
7886			Root password? :)
7887
7888			John.Fulmer
7889	root	1.387	%
7890	root	1.1	I think there is a world market for about five computers.
7891
7892			Thomas J. Watson (Chairman, IBM) 1943
7893	root	1.387	%
7894	root	1.1	> NO. They can/will use RAW_IO IF this is available to them. If not, they
7895			> will have to provide a proper kernel driver for their hardware. I know
7896			> which I prefer...
7897
7898			Sure. And keep that dusty 2.4.3 kernel around just in case you someday need
7899			to upgrade the firmware for your disk, and the (binary!) kernel module only
7900			works with that one. Don't forget the 2.4.15ac12 which is for your USB
7901			scanner, and also the 2.6.7-12 (Red Hat) which is the only one with the
7902			updater for the new SCSI controller.
7903			--
7904			Horst von Brand
7905	root	1.387	%
7906	root	1.1	[de.comp.lang.iso-c++]
7907
7908			>Nicht alles was Standard ist, muss auch implementiert werden.
7909
7910			[...]
7911
7912			Nicht alles, was hinkt, ist ein Vergleich.
7913	root	1.387	%
7914	root	1.1	[Drew Sanford about why not to do real-time by throwing faster hardware
7915			at your problem:]
7916
7917			The F4 Fantom fighter. The plane was essentially a large block of metal, with
7918			a few advantagously aerodynamic surfaces, and big f****** engines. If you
7919			had engine trouble in a Fantom ...you had trouble.
7920	root	1.387	%
7921	root	1.1	[Hans Reiser, on /bin/cp.. ;)]
7922			cp is inherently inefficient.
7923	root	1.387	%
7924	root	1.1	>I thought disk drives contained vacuums, thus the extensive concern over
7925			>breaking seals on them.
7926
7927			Air pressure is 1Kg/cm^2. I have never seen a hard drive case that looked
7928			nearly strong enough to take such pressure. Basically if you can't jump on a
7929			hard drive then it's not strong enough!
7930
7931			...
7932
7933			There's a story that Dave Cutler (VMS and WNT architect) when he was at DEC
7934			did a test on a DEC hard drive by blowing cigar smoke into the drive which
7935			killed it properly. DEC then greatly enhanced their drive air filters. It
7936			could be just an urban myth though.
7937
7938			Russell Coker
7939	root	1.387	%
7940	root	1.1	>I've unsubscribed our somewhat less than intelligent friend.
7941			>Ah, Internet for the masses. What a wonderful idea.
7942
7943			Yeah, let's have an IQ test before you're allowed to buy a modem.
7944	root	1.387	%
7945	root	1.1	On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 02:40:33PM +0200, Marc Lehmann wrote:
7946			> "Yury Yu. Rupasov" wrote:
7947			> > All my current benchmarks show that reiserfs works correctly on
7948			> > deleting.
7949			>
7950			> Just a sidenote: you don't test correctness with benchmarks :(
7951
7952			Wrong. Yury does.
7953			:(
7954
7955			--
7956			Stefan
7957	root	1.387	%
7958	root	1.1	"Jeff V. Merkey" writes:
7959			> I will provide a tool that decodes and repairs NTFS volumes to those
7960			> folks who run into this problem, but our agreements with Microsoft do
7961			> not allow us to distribute it for any purpose other than to assist
7962			> Microsoft customers who have corrupted drives. Also, this tool is
7963			> dependent on the DDK being present to run as it has dependencies on the
7964			> DDK DLL's, so you'll need to install the DDK to use it.
7965
7966			DDK == "Disk Death Kit"?
7967
7968			Ian Soboroff ian@cs.umbc.edu
7969	root	1.387	%
7970	root	1.1	[very instructional movie, if you get what I mean...]
7971	root	1.388	00:30-02:05 (13) ( -35) Kabel 1 Das Mädchen am Ende der Straße The
7972	root	1.1	Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane Psychodrama - KAN/F/USA - 1976 -
7973	root	1.388	Regie: Nicolas Gessner * Die 13-jährige Rynn (Jodie Foster) lebt allein in
7974			einer alten Villa und hütet ein schreckliches Geheimnis.
7975	root	1.387	%
7976	root	1.1	[Einsichten in die "Kommunikation"]
7977			> > > Ich beschreibe dir, was in dem Moment an Eindruecken durch meinen
7978			> > > Kopf geht - in dem Augenblick bin ich Besucher und sehe was
7979			> > > mir gefaellt oder nicht - das ist wie ein Schmierzettel. Die
7980			> > > Ausarbeitung der Ideen kommt danach im Gespraech. Du packst solche
7981			> > > Sachen anders an - das seh ich ein. Aber ich bin mit dieser
7982			> > > Art chaos bisher immer ans Ziel gekommen. Was ich mach will -
7983			> > > machen muss - ist Feedback generieren. Ich lass Versuchsballons
7984			> > > aufsteigen und schau zu, wie sie entweder fliegen oder abgeschossen
7985			> > > werden. Dann reagier ich auf das Ergebnis.
7986	root	1.387	%
7987	root	1.388	[Mitch, als Erklärung dafür, weshalb er blindlings ein (kaputtes) ssh-rpm
7988			installiert hat, das er über rpmfind gefunden hat:]
7989			Doch, echt! Der Server war trusted, der sah' ja sowas von vertrauenswürdig
7990	root	1.1	aus!
7991	root	1.387	%
7992	root	1.1	[IMHO one of the main reasons linux is nicer]
7993			http://www.cyberport.com/~tangent/ix/bsod-story.html
7994	root	1.387	%
7995	root	1.1	[On the reality of random numbers]
7996			> /dev in a world with dynamic hardware, so why bother? We only need
7997			> to provide random numbers to fill in struct stat. (zero works)
7998			Alan Cox [as usual ;)]
7999	root	1.387	%
8000	root	1.1	[Flame Warriors]
8001			http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
8002	root	1.387	%
8003	root	1.1	A programmer who hasn't been exposed to all four of the imperative,
8004			functional, objective, and logical programming styles has one or
8005			more conceptual blindspots. It's like knowing how to boil but not
8006			fry. Programming is not a skill one develops in five easy lessons.
8007
8008			--tom
8009	root	1.387	%
8010	root	1.1	To: bugs@gimp.org
8011			X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 105
8012
8013			Hi there, I recently downloaded your gimp toolkit. At first I was having
8014			problems until I read your download help tip. I understand I have to compile
8015			it so I tried using Borland C++ Compiler but it said the line length exceeds
8016			editor capacity. Is there any other compiler I can use that wouldn't rip a
8017			whole in my wallet. Thank you for your support.
8018	root	1.387	%
8019	root	1.1	["General Information About Using VBScript with Outlook"]
8020			VBScript is designed to be a secure programming environment. It
8021			lacks various commands that can be potentially damaging if used in
8022			a malicious manner. This added security is critical in enterprise
8023			solutions.
8024
8025			http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q167/1/38.ASP
8026
8027			[Despite this "added security", however, VBscript still can modify,
8028			rename, delete files, modify windows registry entries and send email in
8029			the background]
8030	root	1.387	%
8031	root	1.1	[Phil Agre on the "ILOVEYOU" virus and Microsoft's reaction]
8032			Scott Culp of Microsoft Public Relations, excuse me, I mean Microsoft
8033			Security Response Center:
8034
8035			This is a general issue, not a Microsoft issue. You can write a
8036			virus for any platform. (New York Times 5/5/00)
8037
8038			[and later]
8039			Mr. Culp also says this (CNET 5/5/00):
8040
8041			This is by-design behavior, not a security vulnerability.
8042
8043			[Phil closes]
8044			Microsoft shouldn't be broken up. It should be shut down.
8045
8046			[See also http://dlis.gseis.ucla.edu/people/pagre/rre.html]
8047			[and http://commons.somewhere.com/rre/2000/RRE.notes.and.recommenda6.html]
8048	root	1.387	%
8049	root	1.1	[Bruce Schneier about the "ILOVEYOU" virus]
8050			Expect even worse in the future. Systems running either Microsoft Office
8051			2000 or Internet Explorer 5.0 can be infected with these sorts of viruses
8052			even if the recipient doesn't open the attachment. That's right; if the
8053			system is running Internet Explorer with the default settings, it is
8054			vulnerable. The problem is caused by a programming bug in an Internet
8055			Explorer ActiveX control. Thank you, Microsoft.
8056	root	1.387	%
8057	root	1.1	>Reaching to Fallingbostel was extremely amusing though, germany is
8058			>splitted into two halfs, one that doesn't know Fallingbostel and one
8059			>that 'heard of this place but have no idea where it is' at some point I
8060			>was almost convinced that there is no such place :)
8061
8062			[Trashey / Quasars]
8063	root	1.387	%
8064	root	1.1	Tom Christiansen writes:
8065			> I'm writing perlrtfm. It explains search techniques, not quickfix
8066			> switches plugging bursting dykes by springing more leaks.
8067
8068			Irony potential in
8069
8070			man perlrtfm
8071
8072			is left to the reader.
8073
8074			Nat
8075	root	1.387	%
8076	root	1.1	Do you plan to release support for on-the-fly file and directory compression
8077			and encryption as in NTFSv2?
8078
8079			(Imagine a system that in order to run needs a diskette or CD-ROM disk with
8080			private key - protection never seen except in movies ;-)
8081	root	1.387	%
8082	root	1.1	[Telekom-Techniker, bei einer ISDN-UK0-Messung!]
8083			Ich: Also, einen Layer-1-Connect bekomme ich...
8084			Telekomiker: Layer-1? Was ist das? Aber ich bekomme ja auch gar kein Freizeichen...
8085	root	1.387	%
8086	root	1.1	"I love the way Microsoft follows standards. In much the
8087			same manner that fish follow migrating caribou."
8088			Paul Tomblin
8089	root	1.387	%
8090	root	1.1	[recently on p5p]
8091			>I am morally
8092			>convinced that map() was written based on grep()
8093
8094			Considering they use the same op function, I'd say that's a distinct
8095			possibility...
8096
8097			Dan
8098	root	1.387	%
8099	root	1.1	[after the "Welle Erdball" performance on the Mekka&Symposium 2000:]
8100	root	1.388	<jan> bine: du solltest da nicht hingucken, das ist nicht gut fürn kopf
8101	root	1.1	<Bordeaux> after listening to this crap, and hearing zugabe zugabe i finally have the proof that all german c64 sceners are gay :)
8102			<Mr> zugabe
8103	root	1.387	%
8104	root	1.1	"Why upon hearing his arguments I changed my opinion 360 degrees."
8105			Recent comment on the floor of some state legislature
8106	root	1.387	%
8107	root	1.1	DIVIDE EMPLOYEE-EARNINGS BY EMPLOYEE-HOURS GIVING EMPLOYEE-PAY-RATE
8108			[cobol, sigh]
8109	root	1.387	%
8110	root	1.1	It is expected that the Multics system will be published when it is
8111			operating substantially and will therefore be available for implementation
8112			on any equipment with suitable characteristics. Such publication is
8113			desirable for two reasons: First, the system should withstand public
8114			scrutiny and criticism volunteered by interested readers; second, in an
8115			age of increasing complexity, it is an obligation to present and future
8116			system designers to make the inner operating system as lucid as possible
8117			so as to reveal the basic system issues.
8118
8119			Corbat_ & Vyssotsky 1965
8120	root	1.387	%
8121	root	1.1	"Rule #7: Silence is not acquiescence.
8122
8123			"Contrary to what you may have heard, silence of those present is
8124			not necessarily consent, even the reluctant variety. They simply
8125			may sit in stunned silence and figure ways of sabotaging the plan
8126			after they regain their composure."
8127
8128			-- Paul Rinaldo
8129			[see also http://people.qualcomm.com/karn/rinaldo.html]
8130	root	1.387	%
8131	root	1.1	On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 12:09:59AM +1000, Chris wrote:
8132			>
8133			> In case you guys havn't noticed...
8134			>
8135			> http://slashdot.org reports that XFS is now released.
8136
8137			Yes, and http://www.freshmeat.net reports:
8138
8139			Error: Unable to connect to MySQL Server ().
8140
8141			;-}
8142
8143			--
8144
8145			ciao -
8146			Stefan
8147
8148	root	1.387	%
8149	root	1.1	> The 'hypervisor' is a new term to me.. Are you refering to the
8150			> Transmeta CPU and it's native mode? If I read you correctly
8151
8152			No its what the S/390 VM is often called. Its a supervisor for supervisor
8153			mode programs so illogically enough its a hypervisor 8). The IBM mainframe
8154			guys thing this kind of set up is routine. Unix is met with
8155			'You mean you cant run a new kernel on test at the same time as the old
8156			one' type remarks.
8157			[Alan Cox]
8158	root	1.387	%
8159	root	1.1	Godwin's Law
8160
8161			As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
8162			involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
8163
8164			[see also http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/]
8165	root	1.387	%
8166	root	1.1	["Stefan im IRC."]
8167
8168			[01:53:07] <coda> anyone know how to get emacs to stop creating the file.name~ files?
8169			[01:53:24] <JanMan> alias emacs=vi
8170			[01:53:31] <coda> haha
8171	root	1.387	%
8172	root	1.1	[remaining problems with OpenBIOS]
8173			Our SDRAM sizing and init code is not very good; we could use good code.
8174			The code we've been offered so far requires memory to work (oops!);
8175			requires a stack (oops!); or assumes a totally configured machine (oops!).
8176	root	1.387	%
8177	root	1.1	[Alan Cox on wether special fs's should have require "//" in their path]
8178			> No :-) It's a feature. Some things are going REAL ugly without such things.
8179
8180			Given //ipc or freebsd, I think I'd pick freebsd. Thats how ugly the idea
8181			is to me ok.
8182	root	1.387	%
8183	root	1.1	"The code is self documenting." -- The Programmer.
8184
8185			"I don't read C." -- The Tech Writer.
8186	root	1.387	%
8187	root	1.1	[Stefan Sebolth, on the CeBIT, while listening to the original c64 "Giana Sisters" tune:]
8188			Haaach, da war die Welt halt noch in Ordnung!
8189	root	1.387	%
8190	root	1.1	Remember, never ask a geek "why";
8191			just nod your head and back away slowly...
8192	root	1.387	%
8193	root	1.1	The thought of implementing something like text and binary modes for
8194			files is a about a frightening for todays kernel developer's as a mouse
8195			to a women in a typical movie of the 50's ;-)
8196
8197			Ralf
8198	root	1.387	%
8199	root	1.1	It may be real, but it's icky. It's too traditional Unix ``I don't
8200			care if we lose 90% of our market base to NT if our competitor loses
8201			95% of THEIR market base!'' to be palatable.
8202
8203			david parsons
8204	root	1.387	%
8205	root	1.1	["some time ago on p5p"]
8206			> ($host) = gethostbyname('localhost');
8207
8208			>Sadly most UNIX boxes don't add a sane alias to their /etc/hosts file
8209			>so that trick is not portable.
8210
8211			% grep localhost /etc/hosts
8212			127.0.0.1 localhost
8213
8214			--tom
8215	root	1.387	%
8216	root	1.1	["some time ago on p5p"]
8217			On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:22:05PM -0700, Tom Christiansen wrote:
8218			> >But given that most slip drivers I have seen for OS/2 do not do this,
8219			> >the question is moot.
8220			>
8221			> I'll send you a free Unix system.
8222
8223			Thanks, the doors in my house are well-balanced. ;-)
8224
8225			Ilya
8226	root	1.387	%
8227	root	1.1	[Elliott H Mitchell on the reiserfs list]
8228			> Me thinks if unwillingness to use tar over dump will stop you from
8229			> using a better filesystem there will be lots of other reasons that
8230			> will stop you from trying anything new too. So it is not really worth
8231			> trying.
8232
8233			Yeah, if a filesystem randomly lost files and the authors had no plans to
8234			fix it, that would kind discourage one from using it...
8235	root	1.387	%
8236	root	1.1	[Russel Coker on the reiserfs list]
8237			... my old Thinkpad 380XD (Pentium-233 with 3.2G ide hard drive) running
8238			ReiserFS and exporting the file system over 10baseT Ethernet could
8239			outperform local hard drives on an AIX machine running JFS.
8240	root	1.387	%
8241	root	1.1	[Peter Mattis, author of GIMP]
8242			I can't say anything about Rasterman because I've never looked at any of
8243			his code. My only comment about Raster is that he should learn to spell.
8244	root	1.387	%
8245	root	1.1	[David Schwartz on linux-kernel]
8246			> ORBS does not do ANYTHING above try to send few LEGAL
8247			> strings to mailservers with LONG delays. So if you block ORBS you deserve
8248			> blocking :-)
8249
8250			That's not the point. The point is that ORBS claims to be a list of
8251			validated open mail relays, and it's not. It's not supposed to be a list of
8252			people who deserve anything in particular. I'm sure if you talk to the
8253			people who have chosen to block ORBS, you will find that they have their
8254			reasons.
8255
8256			DS
8257	root	1.387	%
8258	root	1.1	[WDR, 19991216 Fernsehen mit Manuel]
8259	root	1.388	Es ist ein Fall bekannt, bei dem sich ein Patient über ein Jahr lang
8260	root	1.1	geweigert hatte, auf die Toilette zu gehen. Dann haben seine Verwandten
8261	root	1.388	und Ärzte ihn dazu überreden können, endlich die Toilette aufzusuchen. Er
8262	root	1.1	hat dabei auf einmal 37 Liter entleert.
8263
8264			Danach lebte er noch ganz normal einige Jahre, bis er, wie in Amerika
8265	root	1.388	üblich, erschossen wurde.
8266	root	1.387	%
8267	root	1.1	> - My Maxtor 27G drive ends up in PIO mode (non-SMP system, but likely
8268			[...]
8269			> Last time I reported this, I had a WDC31600, as hda, and the maxtor as
8270			[...]
8271
8272			You committed a mortal sin in ATA............
8273			You never ever mix WD and Maxtor..........on day I will document why.
8274			Basically these two vendors have timings that are completely incompatable
8275			with each other on the same channel.
8276
8277			IMHO, WD is crap..........however, you may split the two pieces of
8278			hardware and they will work fine under linux and all other OS's.
8279
8280			This rule of "never ever mix WD and Maxtor" is OS independent.
8281	root	1.387	%
8282	root	1.1	[ALF2-Benutzerhandbuch]
8283			"Nur eine tote Festplatte ist eine sichere Festplatte."
8284	root	1.387	%
8285	root	1.1	Physicists write FORTRAN in any language.
8286	root	1.387	%
8287	root	1.1	[OpenBOOT 3.10.6 response to pressing "Ctrl-Alt-Del":]
8288			ANY word at all is a candidate.
8289			USE words to see the entire dictionary.
8290			ok
8291	root	1.387	%
8292	root	1.1	[SDF for POD Users]
8293			... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - even Lisp has it's fans. :-)
8294	root	1.387	%
8295	root	1.1	<Xach> schmorp: i haven't been doing any gimpy things lately
8296			<schmorp> xach: well, who is doing gimpy things lately :(
8297			<Xach> schmorp: Mitch
8298			<schmorp> xach: ok.
8299			<Xach> schmorp: you are not keeping pace with the other germans
8300			<Xach> schmorp: you must work more diligently! FOCUS!! DON'T TALK!!
8301			<Xach> burrito, focus
8302			<Burrito> FOCUS you BABOON!
8303	root	1.387	%
8304	root	1.1	[Paul Miller]
8305			... I find Knuth's attitude to be far more logical: "Be careful about
8306			using the following code -- I've only proven that it works, I haven't
8307			tested it." ...
8308	root	1.387	%
8309	root	1.1	Intel Inside -- Idiot Outside!
8310	root	1.387	%
8311	root	1.1	Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
8312
8313			Bart Lateur wrote in message <383a4712.942513@news.skynet.be>...
8314			>Petrus Prawirodidjojo wrote:
8315			>
8316			>>So we must compete with Windows CE.
8317			>
8318			>"Please wait while your Toaster shuts down."
8319			>
8320			>"My microwave oven hangs, I have to reboot."
8321			>
8322			>No thank you. :-) I don't think Microsoft somehow can "automatically" be
8323			>the most obvious choice as a supplier of system software for embedded
8324			>systems.
8325
8326
8327			Quite so. Windows CE is rapidly losing what small market share they once
8328			had.
8329
8330			--
8331			Neal Bridges
8332	root	1.387	%
8333	root	1.1	On 27 Nov 1999, sanjay Kumar wrote:
8334
8335			> Hi folks,
8336			> i got some problem in using linux.When segmentation fault happens four five times continously OS is not working properly,insted of I remove the core dump and core dump bug ,Why?
8337			> please reply to
8338			> sanjay_rect@rediffmail.com
8339			> and sigma_btl@vsnl.com
8340
8341			Parse error.
8342
8343			---
8344			Alex
8345	root	1.387	%
8346	root	1.1	From: Richard Earnshaw <rearnsha@arm.com>
8347
8348			> Why do we really need to support compiling with -ansi when
8349			> including a non-ANSI header file in a C program?
8350
8351			Because some vendors wouldn't recognize a C standard it if hit them. The
8352			amount of code that purports to be ANSI C code, but is in fact nothing of
8353			the sort, has to be seen to be believed.
8354
8355			That doesn't mean that I don't want my program to be clean ANSI C.
8356	root	1.387	%
8357	root	1.1	[one of the few good us movies]
8358	root	1.388	Talk Radio Mediendrama - USA - 1988 - Regie: Oliver Stone * Sein Zynismus wird dem Radiomoderator Barry zum Verhängnis.
8359	root	1.387	%
8360	root	1.1	[guess the language AND the language revision ;)]
8361			ii = 44;
8362			p = &ii;
8363			p = ii/p;
8364			ii++; /* Don't forget to increment ii. */
8365			printf ( "ii = %d\n", *p );
8366	root	1.387	%
8367	root	1.1	> But many systems set the RTC while running Win*ooze. That will affect
8368			> Linux time then.
8369
8370			Here is another microsoft Innovation (TM):
8371
8372			They now allow you to run your BIOS-clock in UTC! (Just like
8373			Linux. Woops. Just gave it away...)
8374
8375			Roger.
8376	root	1.387	%
8377	root	1.1	<Tommer> schmorp, for the next trick, do <frameset> <frame src=dataurl:> <frame src=dataurl:> </frameset> :)
8378	root	1.387	%
8379	root	1.1	auto accident;
8380			register voters;
8381			static electricity;
8382			struct by_lightning;
8383			void *where_prohibited;
8384			char broiled;
8385			short circuit;
8386			short changed;
8387			long johns;
8388			unsigned long letter;
8389			double entendre;
8390			double trouble;
8391			union organizer;
8392			float valve;
8393			short pants;
8394			union station;
8395			void check; unsigned check;
8396			struct dumb by[sizeof member];
8397	root	1.387	%
8398	root	1.1	[I like TV Movie's nexTView comments]
8399			22:40-00:05 (21) ( -34) ARD Mord auf hoher See Inflammable Thriller - USA
8400			- 1995 - Regie: Peter Werner * Stephen King
8401	root	1.388	verhunzt als Regisseur sein Buch im großen Stil.
8402	root	1.387	%
8403	root	1.1	Carmen Lucia Tancredo Borges wrote:
8404
8405			I have a program written in Fortran that runs on an IBM RS/6000
8406			worstation.
8407	root	1.387	%
8408	root	1.1	I wrote
8409			> I hope not. chomp() should match the string in $?, no more or less.
8410			$/
8411
8412			Damn shift key.
8413
8414
8415			Mike Guy
8416	root	1.387	%
8417	root	1.1	[rfc2635]
8418			The term "spam" as it is used to denote mass unsolicited mailings or
8419			netnews postings is derived from a Monty Python sketch set in a
8420			movie/tv studio cafeteria. During that sketch, the word "spam" takes
8421			over each item offered on the menu until the entire dialogue consists
8422			of nothing but "spam spam spam spam spam spam and spam." This so
8423			closely resembles what happens when mass unsolicited mail and posts
8424			take over mailing lists and netnews groups that the term has been
8425			pushed into common usage in the Internet community.
8426	root	1.387	%
8427	root	1.1	[CRYPTO-GRAM, November 15, 1999]
8428
8429			The Doghouse: Microsoft Windows CE
8430
8431			Microsoft encrypts your Windows NT password when stored on a Windows CE
8432			device. But if you look carefully at their encryption algorithm, they
8433			simply XOR the password with "susageP", Pegasus spelled backwards. Pegasus
8434			is the code name of Windows CE. This is so pathetic it's staggering.
8435
8436			http://www.cegadgets.com/artsusageP.htm
8437	root	1.387	%
8438	root	1.1	: Isn't the point that (void)'grep EXPR, LIST' is now better written as
8439			: 'EXPR for LIST'? Or am I misunderstanding your point here?
8440
8441			It really doesn't bother me if people want to use grep or map in a void
8442			context. It didn't bother me before there was a for modifier, and
8443			now that there is one, it still doesn't bother me. I'm just not very
8444			easy to bother.
8445
8446			The argument against using an operator for other than its primary
8447			purpose strikes me the same as the old argument that you shouldn't have
8448			sex for other than procreational purposes. Sometimes side effects
8449			are more enjoyable than the originally intended effect.
8450
8451			That being said, I'd never grep someone in a void context myself.
8452
8453			Larry
8454	root	1.387	%
8455	root	1.1	[that one's only for insiders...]
8456			> : BASE @ . \ = 10, verified original base was restored
8457			Yeah. :-)
8458	root	1.387	%
8459	root	1.1	[comp.lang.forth]
8460			> Old Antactic Explorers Penguin Recipe:
8461			[...]
8462			> Start fire under pot, raise seawater to boiling point.
8463
8464			Since it is very difficult to find wood on Antarctica, typically
8465			penguins are used to light the fire (due to their fat, they burn well).
8466			I also woudln't use any water, the penguins are fried fine in their own
8467			fat (you can use old fat to heat up the pot for another penguin).
8468
8469			Note that most people in Antarctica have been seal-slayers and
8470			whale-killers, so they were rough people. Usually, they didn't bother
8471			with killing the penguins before setting them on fire. I'm glad this
8472			receipts aren't used anymore.
8473	root	1.387	%
8474	root	1.1	Sie muessen einen PC nicht einschalten um herauszufinden ob Windows
8475			installiert ist. Sehen Sie einfach nach, ob die Aufschrift auf der
8476			Reset-Taste noch lesbar ist.
8477	root	1.387	%
8478	root	1.1	> Erinnert mich an den Kerl bei mir in der Videothek. Hab mir DHY ausgeliehen
8479			> und er sagt doch zu mir: "Ist aber mit Untertiteln." Sag ich: "Na prima!"
8480			> Fragt er: "Wieso, was ist denn daran so interessant, wenn man nichts
8481			> versteht?"
8482	root	1.387	%
8483	root	1.1	[de.alt.anime]
8484			Bei meiner Videothek fliegt ein "Ghost in the Shell" Tape
8485			"Ab18" rum. Das machte mich irgendwie stutzig weil auf
8486			der Schachtel meiner 16er zwei Szenenfotos sind, die im
8487	root	1.388	Film gar nicht vorkommen (ironischer Weise direkt über
8488	root	1.1	dem "Uncut & Unzesored" Schildchen). Andererseits ist
8489	root	1.388	mir völlig schleierhaft, was es bei dem Filmchen zu zensieren
8490	root	1.1	geben soll. Nur die oben beschriebene Feststellung hat diese
8491			Frage erneut aufgeworfen.
8492			ji!
8493	root	1.387	%
8494	root	1.1	I do worry about syntactic clutter, ever since my daughter came
8495			in, looked over my shoulder, and said, "What is that, swearing?"
8496			[Larry Wall]
8497	root	1.387	%
8498	root	1.1	Der letzte untergegangene altisraelitische Stamm war der der
8499			Altpreussen.
8500			- Norbert Marzahn am 15.8.98 in
8501			de.soc.politik.deutschland
8502	root	1.387	%
8503	root	1.1	> > Aber die Theorien, die Norbert aufstellt, ueber zum Beispiel die
8504			> > gegossenen Steinformen, die sich hochdruecken, den fuerchterlichen
8505			> > Kometen, der im vergangenen August die Erde zerstoert hat und solche
8506			> > Sachen find ich wirklich Klasse ;-)
8507			>
8508	root	1.388	> Jau. Und erstmal seine Erklärungsversuche, wenn's mal wieder nichts
8509			> geworden ist (wo bleibt eigentlich der Planet X, der während der
8510	root	1.1	> Syonnenfinsternis auftauchen sollte?)...
8511
8512	root	1.388	Drei Tage Dunkelheit und viele Trümmerteile sollte er bringen, gell,
8513	root	1.1	Norbert?
8514	root	1.387	%
8515	root	1.208	Marzahnismen: http://www.bruhaha.de/normarz.html
8516	root	1.1	Norbert Marzahn sagt: Ich besitze die Mittel, um
8517			"Rechts"- und "Links"-Radikalismus auszuloeschen.
8518	root	1.387	%
8519	root	1.1	http://welcome.to/levitenbuero/
8520	root	1.387	%
8521	root	1.1	<Xach> babelfish.pitney.org: "We may not get it right, but boy are we fast!"
8522	root	1.387	%
8523	root	1.1	Subject: GNU compiler
8524			From: "Steve"
8525			Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:05:03 -0400
8526			To: <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
8527			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0
8528
8529			[the following was a single line, of course]
8530			I downloaded the compiler and am trying to install it and the
8531			instructions seem to be very complicated. Can you help me understand
8532			how to install them? There is no setup file and I have downloaded from
8533			several sites in the thought that I might have the wrong version. Your
8534			assistance would be greatly appreciated
8535
8536			Thanks,
8537
8538			Steve
8539	root	1.387	%
8540	root	1.1	[an "I am doing high end graphic design" type of person:]
8541			> Also, could someone tell me how to calculate DPI of an image? I have not
8542			> managed to figure this DPI system out, for example, if an image is a
8543			> 100?50 pixels, what's the DPI??
8544	root	1.387	%
8545	root	1.1	<tigert> xachbot, op
8546			<XachBot> tigert: I have an 88 magnum. It shoots through schools.
8547			<tigert> ahem
8548	root	1.387	%
8549	root	1.1	<tc> xachbot, acro FOOBAR
8550			-XachBot:#gimp- FOOBAR: FTP Operation Over Big Address Records \| See FUBAR [Net jargon] (cached)
8551			<tc> just when you thought you had something to baffle xachbot
8552	root	1.387	%
8553	root	1.1	[the release of perl 5.000]
8554			Date: Mon, 17 Oct 94 16:48:04 -0700
8555			From: Larry Wall <lwall@scalpel.netlabs.com>
8556			Subject: It's soup.
8557
8558			Okay, it's there.
8559
8560			ftp://ftp.netlabs.com/pub/outgoing/perl5.0/perl5.000.tar.gz
8561
8562			The first one who tells me about a bug in it gets shot.
8563
8564			Larry
8565	root	1.387	%
8566	root	1.1	l33+ h4X0rz
8567	root	1.387	%
8568	root	1.1	# A random text generator using Markov chains
8569			perl -e 'while(<>){$f.= $_}@l=split(/\s+/, $f);for($i=0;$i<@l-1;$i++){$W{$l[$i]
8570			}.=" ".$l[$i+1];}sub a{$w=$l[1]}&a;sub b{print "\n"}while($w){if(!($W{$w})){&b;
8571			&b;&a;last if ($q++>3);}print"$w ";@p=split(/ /,$W{$w});$c=@p;until($s=int(rand
8572			($c))){1}$w=$p[$s]}&b' big_text_file
8573	root	1.387	%
8574	root	1.1	> && d'oh! i knew that! can she allow her lusers to use deja? here is the url
8575			> && for the post with the whole description of how i used -P
8576			>
8577			> Well, access to deja isn't forbidden, but access to the keyboard is.
8578			> And there's no mouse.
8579			>
8580			> Abigail
8581
8582			Wow. Someone else who reads usenet by osmosis... cool.
8583
8584			Matt.
8585	root	1.387	%
8586	root	1.1	Ok, our threads aren't so bad. Python's have one big
8587			giant global interpreter lock. :-)
8588
8589			- --tom
8590	root	1.387	%
8591	root	1.1	From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
8592			Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:42:19 -0700 (PDT)
8593
8594			On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Hubert Mantel wrote:
8595			>
8596			> So the huge ISDN update in proposed-2.2.11 will be removed from the final
8597			> 2.2.11 release?
8598
8599			[ Irritated mode: FULL BLAST ]
8600
8601			Are you being stupid on purpose, or were you born that way?
8602
8603			Go back and read the thread. Read why I'm irritated. READ. THINK.
8604	root	1.387	%
8605	root	1.1	Understanding is a three edged sword. Do you want to get the point?
8606	root	1.387	%
8607	root	1.1	["MVS uses quite heavy algorithms for swapping"]
8608			On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 07:55:32PM +0200, Lieven Marchand wrote:
8609			> Last time I looked at it, it got to the point they had moved some
8610			> ASSISTs into microcode. IIRC, some manipulations of the process
8611			> block. I doubt Intel/Sun/MIPS/IBM is going to accomodate Linux quite
8612			> that much ;-)
8613
8614			IBM is really really good on process technology. They have had to be.
8615	root	1.387	%
8616	root	1.1	MVS spends a lot of time running OS algorithms to allow full
8617			preemption that Linux wastes on running user applications.
8618	root	1.387	%
8619	root	1.1	[comments on the gcc-2.95 release]
8620			<QUOTE>
8621			I'm having problems compiling it for HP-UX 10.20. Any ideas?
8622
8623			(I haven't actually finished downloading it yet, but I just know I'm
8624			gonna have problems with this crappy OS ;-)
8625			</QUOTE>
8626	root	1.387	%
8627	root	1.1	The Internet interprets Windows as damage,
8628			and routes around it.
8629
8630			Roger Larsson
8631	root	1.388	Skellefteå
8632	root	1.387	%
8633	root	1.1	[configuring gcc]
8634			Noone should use --prefix=/usr without --with-local-prefix=/usr/local
8635	root	1.387	%
8636	root	1.1	'You can solve any programming problem with another level of indirection,
8637			except the problem of too many levels of indirection.'
8638	root	1.387	%
8639	root	1.1	[http://www.itknowledge.com/tpj/issues/vol4_1/tpj0401-0015.html]
8640
8641			Z-code interpreters have also been written in Java; unfortunately, when it
8642			comes to cross-platform compatibility, Java's user-interface classes are
8643			finicky and unstable--just ask anyone who's tried to reason with the AWT
8644			on different JVMs.
8645
8646			[and later]
8647
8648			Pilfer is a practical implementation of two of the cardinal rules of
8649			adventure gaming:
8650
8651			1.Anything that is not nailed down is mine.
8652			2.Anything that I can pry loose is not nailed down.
8653	root	1.387	%
8654	root	1.1	[the \|\|-operator can be thought of as "or", && can be thought of as
8655			"and", but how would you call the ??-operator?]
8656
8657			>>>>> "NK" == Nathan Kurz <nate@valleytel.net> writes:
8658
8659			NK> ?? -> huh?
8660
8661			That's a great name. The huh? operator.
8662
8663			<chaim>
8664	root	1.387	%
8665	root	1.1	`One of the reasons we continue to use Fortran is that it's easier to fix
8666			code written without attention to such details in Fortran than in other
8667			languages. To put it another way, Fortran is the only language where
8668			people who barely get by with their numerical skills can "write useful
8669			numerical code." Many times those people are the only experts in their
8670			specialty available to put a needed procedure into practice.'
8671	root	1.387	%
8672	root	1.1	[Moderator der Sending "Teatime" auf "Radio Okerwelle", 1999-07-12]
8673	root	1.388	Ich muß schließlich hören was ich sage, damit ich weiß, was ich denke.
8674	root	1.387	%
8675	root	1.1	[Dr. Dobbs #8, 1999, describing how you can AVOID downloading or executing
8676			Java applets, scripts and ActiveX controls while _parsing_(!) an html
8677			page]
8678			... you must utilize IOleControl::OnAmbientPropertyChange with the
8679			value DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Before you can do this, however, you
8680			must call IOleObject::SetClientSite so that IOleControl will work
8681			properly. This is the reason you derive from IOleClientSite, even
8682			though you don't extend its functionality in any way. After the call to
8683			OnAmbientPropertyChange, IE4 will call your Invoke method to check the
8684			value of DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Invoke simply sets the correct bits to
8685			disable the behaviour you don't want and returns NOERROR.
8686			[Still interested in knowing how you can disable the "file not found"
8687			dialog box that will pop up when you try to parse a non-accessible file?]
8688	root	1.387	%
8689	root	1.1	[Linus, whom I quote rarely ;-]
8690			Message passing as the fundamental operation of the OS is just an
8691			excercise in computer science masturbation. It may feel good, but you
8692			don't actually get anything DONE.
8693	root	1.387	%
8694	root	1.1	Advantages of Windows NT over Linux:
8695			* It's easier to explain the crash was not your fault.
8696			* You've to remember only one solution all to your problems: Reboot.
8697			* You can use your mouse to type an email-message.
8698	root	1.387	%
8699	root	1.1	> 1) On the PIII, there is the capability to get a system unique serial
8700			> number from the CPU. Does Linux read this data already? Is there plans to
8701			> read the serial number and then disable the capability (maybe so you could
8702			> get the serial number from the OS)?
8703
8704			Current Linux disables it and doesn't save the value.
8705	root	1.387	%
8706	root	1.1	[CRYPTO-GRAM 1999-06-15]
8707			"Microsoft set the security state-of-the-art back 25 years with DOS, and
8708			they have continued that legacy to this day."
8709	root	1.387	%
8710	root	1.1	[From "The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature", by Thomas Scoville]
8711			"In a world increasingly dominated by image culture (TV, movies, .jpg
8712			files), UNIX remains rooted in the culture of the word."
8713	root	1.387	%
8714	root	1.1	> If it is clearly documented that will not happen.
8715
8716			Yeah, sure. Unfortunately, if the "correct" treatment of this feature
8717			means to change a dozen source files (and rth's comments make me fear
8718			that that's the case), the chance that someone, somewhere forgets to say
8719			exactly why these changes were necessary (and on what other changes in
8720			other files they depend) is far larger than I want to consider. We've
8721			seen this before. Lucky we are that some long time gcc-hackers are
8722			still among us, who might remark: Oh yes, that's undefined by the C
8723			Standard, but it happens to be an extension gcc supports ... Seen that,
8724			got the T-shirt.
8725	root	1.387	%
8726	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8727			From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
8728			Date: Fri, 4 Jun 99 10:00:16 PDT
8729			To: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
8730			Cc: craig@jcb-sc.com, jbuck@Synopsys.COM, mark@codesourcery.com,
8731			davem@redhat.com, chip@perlsupport.com, egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
8732			X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
8733
8734			Linus writes, to Craig:
8735
8736			> I haven't maintained a compiler long-term. I _have_ maintained a larger,
8737			> and arguably mode complex system with many more degrees of freedom and
8738			> thus choices than gcc.
8739
8740			No, gcc is substantially larger than the Linux kernel (on the order of 10x
8741			larger, as anyone can easily verify). gcc does not need to deal with race
8742			conditions, so in that sense it is simpler, but in other respects it is
8743			far more complex than the kernel.
8744
8745			[NOTE for the reader: this is not really true, as the device drivers
8746			bomb the comparison away, but the complexity argument still holds]
8747
8748			[ personal insults deleted, perhaps the author is in need of a vacation ]
8749	root	1.387	%
8750	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8751			From: craig@jcb-sc.com
8752			To: torvalds@transmeta.com
8753
8754			>I want the _user_ to be able to give input.
8755			[...]
8756			>I happen to think that the "explicit cast invalidates the alias
8757			>information" rule is the simplest and best one, and gives the user the
8758			>best control without adding things like new attributes or other ways to
8759			>let the user be in control.
8760
8761			In other words, you believe you are a better language designer than
8762			the ISO C people as well as the gcc maintainers, despite the fact
8763			that you know, what, nothing about language design, and nothing
8764			about compiler design and, especially, long-term maintenance of
8765			compilers?
8766	root	1.387	%
8767	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8768			From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
8769
8770			Linus writes:
8771			> Oh, you don't expect me to complain about bad code generation when I know
8772			> gcc could do better?
8773
8774			Oh, don't worry, we expect you to complain, and in a rude and insulting
8775			matter at that. We're used to it. It seems that you were a nicer guy
8776			before you had so many worshippers.
8777	root	1.387	%
8778	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8779			From: Branko Cibej <branko.cibej@hermes.si>
8780			Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:07:09 +0200
8781			To: egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
8782			X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I)
8783
8784			Linus Torvalds wrote:
8785
8786			> I think it's a damn shame that instead of technical arguments _everything_
8787			> revolves around people reading the standard as if it was the bible, and
8788			> trying to make people feel guilty for not really caring. It's not a sin to
8789			> just want to get good code without having to do magic contortions, guys.
8790
8791			Why, Linus, it's trivial to do! Use MSVC instead of egcs, then you can do
8792
8793			#pragma optimize("a", on/off)
8794
8795			around every single statement, if you like. It even supports anonymous unions
8796			_and_ structs, and is only slightly influenced by the ISO C standard.
8797
8798			They'll even sell you a version that can generate code for the alpha!
8799
8800			>:->
8801
8802			Brane
8803
8804
8805			P.S.: Just for the record: I, a "real user" and (imnsho) a "clever programmer"
8806			who "know what I'm doing", at least most of the time, and who do not "read the
8807			standard as if it were a bible", vote for having a standard-conforming
8808			compiler that's not bloated by a ton of marginally useful (or even useless)
8809			features. If I want featuritis, I know where I can get it.
8810
8811
8812			P.P.S: They can't even spell "optimise" ...
8813	root	1.387	%
8814	root	1.1	You can have it Soon, Cheap, and Working; choose two
8815	root	1.387	%
8816	root	1.1	"Scientific" studies have found that a 2.2.x Linux router with
8817			fast-switching enabled, using Tulip 100baseT cards, can melt a
8818			high-end Cisco's 100baseT interfaces.
8819	root	1.387	%
8820	root	1.1	1) Thread switching is faster than process switching by a little bit on Linux
8821			2) Process switching on linux is faster than thread switching on NT
8822			3) Almost anything is faster than process switching on NT
8823	root	1.387	%
8824	root	1.1	[gimp-developers, on the use of keyboard modifiers for drawing tools]
8825
8826			> Simple. Powerful. Fast. Choose at most two.
8827
8828			Perhaps this should be an option in the preferences dialog? :)
8829	root	1.387	%
8830	root	1.1	[perl is cryptic??]
8831			Subject: @{$${->{{{{~{}~{{{NO CARRIER
8832			From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@iki.fi>
8833			Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:55:37 +0300 (EET DST)
8834
8835			We have still a long way to go-- from the zsh-workers mailing list:
8836
8837			: Just thought of a trivial way to take a lot of grief out of parameter
8838			: substitution. This patch makes the following valid:
8839			:
8840			: ${${${${(f)"$(typeset)"}:#local \=}%%\=}##* }
8841			:
8842			: replacing the equivalent but grotesquer
8843			:
8844			: "${(@)${(@)${(@)${(@f)$(typeset)}:#local \=}%%\=}##* }"
8845	root	1.387	%
8846	root	1.1	Long noun chains don't automatically imply security. - Bruce Schneier
8847	root	1.387	%
8848	root	1.1	> \|> Spoken as a true C programmer. However you are wrong. Case-preserving, but
8849			> \|> insensitive, is the CORRECT way for file systems. Capitalization should not
8850			> \|> matter for interpretation of a file name just as it doesn't matter for
8851			> \|> interpreting words in any human language.
8852			>
8853			> This is wrong. In German, there is a big difference between "paar" und
8854			> "Paar" (the first meaning "a few", the second "pair").
8855
8856			The classic example:
8857
8858			"Ich habe liebe Genossen in Moskau" - I've got dead comreds in Moscow.
8859			"Ich habe Liebe genossen in Moskau" - I enjoyed love in Moscow.
8860	root	1.387	%
8861	root	1.1	[do we need oo-style IO::File class in perl?]
8862			>_You_ aren't gonna code "use IO::File".
8863
8864			And there's no reason for anyone else to, either, especially
8865			once Nick finishes the Larry-blessed autovivification of
8866			lvaluabled undefs in open(), socket(), etc.
8867
8868			What's next, a String class for Perl?
8869
8870			--tom
8871	root	1.387	%
8872	root	1.1	[some example of the kind of mail I sometimes receive:]
8873			i was just trying to help u out not hurt you in anyway ok i have the fbi
8874			working on something for me
8875			u havent done anything to me ok and the sherriffs department came by to talk
8876			to me nutting concerning y ok
8877			piece
8878			russ
8879	root	1.387	%
8880	root	1.1	[From "Basic Information about Unix", common commands:]
8881
8882			pico (text editor for beginners)
8883			vi (text editor for advanced users)
8884			emacs (text editor for advanced users)
8885			ed (text editor for beginners)
8886	root	1.387	%
8887	root	1.1	There is no reason in principle that a Perl script shouldn't start with
8888
8889			use Python;
8890
8891			and appear to work exactly like Python from there to the end of the file.
8892			Except maybe faster. :-)
8893
8894			Larry
8895	root	1.387	%
8896	root	1.1	> Perl6 gives us an opportunity to re-examine every feature at a microscopic level.
8897
8898			just what I'm afraid of... I thought this was to be Perl6, not Perl
8899			2010.
8900
8901			(Perl 2010: The Spaced Oddity?)
8902	root	1.387	%
8903	root	1.1	The X.25 specification is not a particularly easy document to
8904			read. Contrary to expectations, it does not make great use of diagrams
8905			and tables that help to explain the workings of the protocols that
8906			it contains. Instead the document makes use of many ambiguous English
8907			descriptions of the actions that should take place, allied with a complete
8908			lack of fluency in its prose descriptions, make for a very confusing
8909			document. It is a wonder that any correct X.25 implementations have ever
8910			been created.
8911	root	1.387	%
8912	root	1.1	> Joe: (walking into McDonalds) Hi, I'd like a Big Mac.
8913			>
8914			> Cashier: Okay, here's your Big Mac and here's your Coke. That'll be
8915			> $3.99.
8916			>
8917			> Joe: Uh, I don't want a Coke.
8918			>
8919			> Cashier: Sorry, they're bundled.
8920			>
8921			> Joe: What? I'm not paying for a Coke!
8922			>
8923			> Cashier: You don't; the Coke is free.
8924			>
8925			> Joe: But wasn't a Big Mac $2.49 last week?
8926			>
8927			> Cashier: Sure, but this latest Big Mac is far more innovative. It's
8928			> got integrated Coke!
8929			>
8930			> Joe: I already bought a Snapple across the street... I'm not going
8931			> to drink the Coke.
8932			>
8933			> Cashier: Then you can't have the burger.
8934			>
8935			> Joe: Okay, fine, I will pay the $3.99 and throw the Coke away.
8936			>
8937			> Cashier: Oh, you can't do that. They're seamlessly integrated. Totally
8938			> inseparable.
8939			>
8940			> Joe: How can that be? They're two totally separate things!
8941			>
8942			> Cashier: No, watch. (takes Big Mac, dunks it in a tank of Coke) See?
8943			>
8944			> Joe: Why did you just do that?!
8945			>
8946			> Cashier: It's a benefit to the consumer. Otherwise you'd end up with
8947			> two different, inconsistent tastes. This way you're assured of a
8948			> continuous taste across all your foods.
8949	root	1.387	%
8950	root	1.1	Threads are like salt. I like salt, you like salt, we all
8951			like salt, but we eat more pasta than salt.
8952	root	1.40	Rob Pike
8953	root	1.387	%
8954	root	1.1	From: Nathan Torkington <gnat@frii.com>
8955
8956			Don't be bitten by Perl, get crushed by Python.
8957			Python: Perl for the punctuation-phobic.
8958			It takes 4 days for a python to digest a hamster, but only 2 days
8959			for you to digest this book.
8960			Python: it's really better but nobody uses it.
8961			Python: just for the whitespace of it.
8962			Join The Trickle
8963			Python: more popular than Dylan!
8964			Python: not written by crackheads in a gutter!
8965			Are you uptight? Try our new Python Hangups series.
8966	root	1.387	%
8967	root	1.1	Well Microsoft announced this new language called COOL which I can
8968			honestly say that I have seen NO CRAPPY CODE written in. OTOH it appears
8969			that to achieve this miraculous status by the simple technique of being
8970			complete and utter vapourware.
8971
8972			Microsoft, taking the Business out of COBOL.
8973	root	1.387	%
8974	root	1.1	[From "Programming Perl"]
8975
8976			We will encourage you to develop the three great virtues of a
8977			programmer: laziness, impatience and hubris
8978	root	1.387	%
8979	root	1.1	[Alexander Stepanov, creator of the STL]:
8980
8981			Yes. STL is not object oriented. I think that object orientedness is
8982			almost as much of a hoax as Artificial Intelligence. I have yet to
8983			see an interesting piece of code that comes from these OO people. In
8984			a sense, I am unfair to AI: I learned a lot of stuff from the MIT AI
8985			Lab crowd, they have done some really fundamental work: Bill Gosper's
8986			Hakmem is one of the best things for a programmer to read. AI might
8987			not have had a serious foundation, but it produced Gosper and Stallman
8988			(Emacs), Moses (Macsyma) and Sussman (Scheme, together with Guy Steele). I
8989			find OOP technically unsound. It attempts to decompose the world in
8990			terms of interfaces that vary on a single type. To deal with the real
8991			problems you need multisorted algebras - families of interfaces that
8992			span multiple types. I find OOP philosophically unsound. It claims that
8993			everything is an object. Even if it is true it is not very interesting -
8994			saying that everything is an object is saying nothing at all. I find OOP
8995			methodologically wrong. It starts with classes. It is as if mathematicians
8996			would start with axioms. You do not start with axioms - you start with
8997			proofs. Only when you have found a bunch of related proofs, can you
8998			come up with axioms. You end with axioms. The same thing is true in
8999			programming: you have to start with interesting algorithms. Only when you
9000			understand them well, can you come up with an interface that will let them
9001			work.
9002			[...]
9003			You can't write a generic max() in Java that takes two arguments of some
9004			type and has a return value of that same type. Inheritance and interfaces
9005			don't help. And if they cannot implement max or swap or linear search,
9006			what chances do they have to implement really complex stuff? These are my
9007			litmus tests: if a language allows me to implement max and swap and linear
9008			search generically - then it has some potential.
9009			[...] Java is clearly an example of a money oriented programming (MOP).
9010			It might be successful - after all, MS DOS was - and it might be a
9011			profitable thing for all your readers to learn Java, but it has no
9012			intellectual value whatsoever.
9013
9014			[Later, on OMG protocols like CORBA]
9015			I am old enough to remember all the networking standards that were coming
9016			out in the seventies. Who remembers them now?
9017	root	1.387	%
9018	root	1.1	[Stiftung Warentest "test", WDR 19990419:]
9019	root	1.388	"Schlechtes muß nicht billig sein..."
9020	root	1.387	%
9021	root	1.1	[/bin/false on solaris]
9022			#!/usr/bin/sh
9023			# Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
9024			# All Rights Reserved
9025
9026			# THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
9027			# The copyright notice above does not evidence any
9028			# actual or intended publication of such source code.
9029
9030			#ident "@(#)false.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.3 */
9031			[obvious invocation of exit snipped to avoid lawsuit. Yup, 1 line.]
9032	root	1.387	%
9033	root	1.1	<Aspirin> but ee uses imlib, and imlib is documented to take 4.7 days to start up on a 486 by Alan Cox.
9034	root	1.387	%
9035	root	1.1	When a tar built for SunOS runs under Solaris, it's incapable of opening
9036			or creating files with "lib/locale" in the path. It replaces that part of
9037			the path with "lib/oldlocale".
9038	root	1.387	%
9039	root	1.1	[Bruce Schneier in CRYPTO-GRAM, 19990315]
9040
9041			"Microsoft prefers to treat security holes as a public relations problem,
9042			rather than fixing the actual problem."
9043
9044			[further down: the official answer from Microsoft about a problem where
9045			just viewing a website would invisibly run unrestricted code on your
9046			machine]
9047
9048			"Microsoft appreciates your input regarding this issue, however in lieu
9049			of modern technology being what it is, we all need to be personally
9050			responsible for knowing what we are downloading off the internet."
9051
9052			[see http://www.panix.com/~dfoster/sec/chrono.html]
9053	root	1.387	%
9054	root	1.1	[Steve Funston wrote to me, after I unsubscribed him from gimp-perl for
9055			spamming:]
9056
9057			>fuck you ass hole duh you are just a big fucker
9058			>>
9059			>>An error was generated by your request to our servers:
9060			>>------------------------------------------------------
9061			>>
9062			>>Your Email: bfunston@mich.com
9063			>>
9064			>>ERROR: You are not a member of this list.
9065
9066			[and later, misquoting my name:]
9067			>mark is not only a big fat liar but he is an ass hole.
9068	root	1.387	%
9069	root	1.1	[How much of the microsoft shares does Bill Gates hold?]
9070			He has 19.8%. Paul Allen has 5.5%. Steve Ballmer has 4.7%.
9071	root	1.387	%
9072	root	1.1	> And what's wrong with being named Peter?
9073			If linus was peter, Linux would be called penix? (just guessing) ;)
9074	root	1.387	%
9075	root	1.1	According to Microsoft KnowledgeBase article Q216641, Microsoft Windows
9076			95/98 are limited to an uptime of exactly 49.7 days.
9077
9078			--found by Vincent Janelle (Random)
9079	root	1.387	%
9080	root	1.1	> Leave that to RMS.
9081
9082			If you had just sat through the horrific panel with Larry,
9083			RMS, Richard, and Linus, you would want to leave a whole lot
9084			else to RMS -- like a couple of megatons of the manure that
9085			he's full of.
9086
9087			Support BSD/Linux.
9088
9089			--tom
9090	root	1.387	%
9091	root	1.1	"The FSF is a cult -- don't support them." --Rob Pike
9092	root	1.387	%
9093	root	1.1	We are Linux. Resistance is an indication that you missed the point.
9094	root	1.387	%
9095	root	1.1	> Perhaps the cracker himself (itself? ;) isn't bright enough to delete shell
9096			> history, but his shrink-wrapped cracking tools might be a lot brighter...
9097
9098			Some of them are. A surprising number aren't. A personal favorite of
9099			mine was the log from a cracker who couldn't figure out how to untar
9100			and install the trojan package he'd ftped onto the machine. he tried a
9101			few times, and then eventually gave up and logged out.
9102	root	1.387	%
9103	root	1.1	[on channel #gimp]
9104
9105			[msg(Xachbot)] insult me
9106			[XachBot(xachbot@home.xach.com)] schmorp: David Miller would never approve of that.
9107	root	1.387	%
9108	root	1.1	[the creation]
9109			http://www.toodarkpark.org/caffeine-cgi-bin/textfile/net-hx.txt
9110	root	1.387	%
9111	root	1.1	THE LESSER-KNOWN PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES #12: LITHP
9112
9113			This otherwise unremarkable language is distinguished by the absence of
9114			an "S" in its character set; users must substitute "TH". LITHP is said
9115			to be useful in protheththing lithtth.
9116	root	1.387	%
9117	root	1.1	Ich zog hier nur einen Pseudoschluss aus dieser sache, den ich nicht
9118			selbst schliesse.
9119			Norbert Harry Marzahn, selbsternannter "Judaaer"
9120			am 13.12.98 in de.alt.ufo
9121	root	1.387	%
9122	root	1.1	According to Gurusamy Sarathy:
9123			> "Resistance is futile, you will be modularized."
9124
9125			No:
9126
9127			use Borg;
9128			make_threat(-type => 'standard', -doom => 'modularized');
9129
9130			--
9131			Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
9132	root	1.387	%
9133	root	1.1	"And over here, ladies and gentlemen, may I draw your attention to
9134			the 'posicks box', a mechanism within one of the late 20th century
9135			sub-I hardware gestalt integration agents (then called 'operating
9136			systems', this particular one being referred to as 'windows' by
9137			its commercial-mimetic sustainer), designed so as to provide the
9138			appearance and functionality required to comply with one of the few
9139			agreed-upon integration schemas (sub-I, of course) available at the
9140			time. Unsurprising given the non-integration imperitives used by the
9141			agent's sustainter, this mechanism was demonstrated to be an ingenious
9142			non-integration ploy that, while supporting the integration schema,
9143			failed to support the local interconnect schemas that this agent
9144			specialized in. This produced a classic focus rift in the knowledge
9145			pool, benefiting the sustainer in the short run due to the focus
9146			concentration facilities available to commericial-class mimetic
9147			sustainers. Practically, this wasn't a significant loss, in the long
9148			run, as neither the 'windows' or 'posicks' schemas were relevant to
9149			modern quasi-I agents. These two do live on, however, in a few niches.
9150			'posicks' is used as the integration schema between most nano-scale
9151			logic units (a fact that only a few meta-experts still need to be
9152			aware of), and 'windows' survives, for religious-mimetic reasons, as
9153			the human-communication agent in a few stereotypical toasters and soap
9154			dispensers."
9155
9156			[Kenneth Albanowski]
9157	root	1.387	%
9158	root	1.1	Perl ist ein Schmerzmittel.
9159			Wenn Du bei der Speicherverwaltung oder der Stringverarbeitung
9160			unter C Schmerzen hast, nimm Perl.
9161			-- Kristian Koehntopp
9162	root	1.387	%
9163	root	1.1	> Why Windows NT Server 4.0 continues to exist in the enterprise would be a
9164			> topic appropriate for an investigative report in the field of psychology or
9165			> marketing, not an article on information technology -- John Kirch
9166	root	1.387	%
9167	root	1.388	[bei einer mündlichen Nachprüfung in BWL, Uni Hamburg]
9168	root	1.1
9169			Prof: "Was ist Agio?"
9170	root	1.388	Student: "Weiß ich nicht."
9171	root	1.1	Prof: "OK, durchgefallen!
9172	root	1.388	Student: "Ich habe aber Anspruch auf drei Fragen in der mündlichen Prüfung!"
9173	root	1.1	Prof: "Klar, was ist Disagio?"
9174			Student: "..."
9175			Prof: "...und was ist der Unterschied zwischen Agio und Disagio?"
9176			Student: "..."
9177			Prof: "...durchgefallen!"
9178	root	1.387	%
9179	root	1.1	Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@pobox.com> writes:
9180
9181			> Just morbid curiosity,
9182			>
9183			> Are there _any_ unix boxes that _can't_ build Perl?
9184
9185			Yes. Broken ones.
9186
9187			dgris
9188	root	1.387	%
9189	root	1.1	"The kerastion is a musical instrument which cannot be heard."
9190			-- A Borges story in ten words.
9191	root	1.387	%
9192	root	1.1	"C combines the power of assembly language
9193			with the flexibility of assembly language."
9194	root	1.387	%
9195	root	1.1	...
9196
9197			<AOL>
9198
9199			Me too!
9200
9201			</AOL>
9202
9203			Tig
9204	root	1.387	%
9205	root	1.1	ping -p 2b2b2b415448300d <hostname>
9206	root	1.387	%
9207	root	1.1	unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck;more;yes;umount;sleep
9208	root	1.387	%
9209	root	1.1	From: Dick Balaska <dick@buckosoft.com>
9210
9211			I sit behind an NT dual P2/400 256MB for too many hours each day. It is
9212			"slow". One of my (fun) tasks is CD mastering. When i'm loading a 500MB
9213			wav file into the editor, the machine goes useless for two minutes while
9214			loading the wave file. Basically its just reading the file and writing it
9215			to swap. The CPU is at 5%. No Alt-Tab between apps during that time. No
9216			chance of putting the mouse over a button (too many dropped ticks). The
9217			NT kernel is just sitting waiting for I/O completions.
9218
9219			Linux would be embarrassed to be that bad.
9220
9221			I expected M$ to never fix this because its not "broken". However, i
9222			expect billg to start reading the above mentioned literal benchmarks and
9223			get really really pissed.
9224
9225			Especially since i believe 1999 and 2000 to see Linux really start
9226			to cut into M$'s server market share.
9227	root	1.387	%
9228	root	1.1	> Hello I'm wondering if there's a lower traffic mailing list that exists
9229			> that's strictly important kernel announcements and not general chat. I
9230			> need to stay informed but I can't handle 250 messages in a 24 hour
9231			> period.
9232			>
9233			> Sorry for the insignificant post..
9234			> Nic
9235			>
9236
9237			Thank you for contributing to the problem.
9238
9239			-hpa
9240	root	1.387	%
9241	root	1.1	grep... grep... grep... (frog with unix stuck in his throat)
9242	root	1.387	%
9243	root	1.1	"If users are made to understand that the system administrator's job is to
9244			make computers run, and not to make them happy, they can, in fact, be made
9245			happy most of the time. If users are allowed to believe that the system
9246			administrator's job is to make them happy, they can, in fact, never be made
9247			happy."
9248			- - -Paul Evans (as quoted by Barb Dijker in "Managing Support Staff", LISA '97)
9249	root	1.387	%
9250	root	1.1	From: "Daniel P. Stasinski" <dannys@KAREMOR.COM>
9251			Subject: Microsoft Hotmail
9252			To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG
9253
9254			I contacted Microsoft/Hotmail asking them to close the account
9255			of that was listed in the backdoored tcp wrapper source code.
9256			I also forwarded the offending code.
9257
9258			The word back from them is that they will not close it. Theft
9259			of passwords and hacking does not violate thier terms of
9260			service.
9261
9262			Daniel
9263	root	1.387	%
9264	root	1.1	Any UNIX-killer must also have:
9265			...
9266			* cool name like Linux (serious, these fail: GNU Hurd FreeBSD 386BSD)
9267	root	1.387	%
9268	root	1.1	"Not all things worth doing are worth doing well."
9269			It's a phrase I use a lot. :-)
9270			[RJL]
9271	root	1.387	%
9272	root	1.1	As John Whittaker says: ``It's UNIX. That doesn't necessarily mean it's
9273			right.''
9274	root	1.387	%
9275	root	1.1	[Richard Stallman on the new _Pragma operator in C9X:]
9276
9277			Amazing--they actually listened.
9278	root	1.387	%
9279	root	1.1	That "UNIX" term is very negative. People often associate it with
9280			SCO OpenServer, Wyse terminals, and 60 people on a 386. The UNIX
9281			that people know is just awful. It looks something like this:
9282
9283			# less foo
9284			sh: command not found
9285			# more foo
9286			sh: command not found
9287			# emacs foo
9288			sh: command not found
9289			# ed foo
9290			0
9291			help
9292			?
9293			quit
9294			?
9295			exit
9296			?
9297			DIE!!!!!!!!!!
9298			?
9299
9300			[Albert D. Cahalan]
9301	root	1.387	%
9302	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Stop blib warning in future releases?
9303			From: andreas.koenig@anima.de (Andreas J. Koenig)
9304			Date: 05 Jan 1999 03:15:37 +0100
9305
9306			tim> Sure. Strictly speaking
9307
9308			tim> use blib ':quiet';
9309
9310			tim> would be most correct in style.
9311
9312			Only German native speakers are allowed to treat adverbs adjectively.
9313			For the rest I'd recommend [...]
9314	root	1.387	%
9315	root	1.1	[A new U.S. Law implementing a WIPO treaty]
9316			No person shall circumvent a technological protection measure that
9317			effectively controls access to a work protected under this title
9318			[Or, in other words, applied cryptanalysis will be illegal.
9319			too bad --- ]
9320	root	1.387	%
9321	root	1.1	Microsoft - Is it going to work today?
9322	root	1.387	%
9323	root	1.1	Subject: Re: [gimp-devel] GIF plugin legal issues
9324
9325			> Actually, my understanding is that Unisys doesn't currently enforce the
9326			> licensing cost on free software, but maybe I am mistaken.
9327
9328			The general wording, spoken by an unnamed GIMP developer, is, if you'll
9329			pardon the language, "Unisys can go fuck itself."
9330	root	1.387	%
9331	root	1.1	[once on linux-kernel:]
9332			> >who are you why on yahoo when iprint sf16fmi i fond you i need drv
9333			> Does anyone have the secret decoder ring to make sense of this?
9334			he's confused about us showing up in a search match on yahoo, but needs
9335			driver(s) for his sf16fmi thingy.
9336	root	1.387	%
9337	root	1.1	> Did you try to compile kdeadmin from the CVS tree ?
9338
9339			No I ran the KDE binaries. Im not interested in broken programs that
9340			include wrong #include files in their source.
9341	root	1.387	%
9342	root	1.1	[unix-faq]
9343
9344			Someday, you are going to accidentally type something like
9345			"rm * .foo", and find you just deleted "" instead of ".foo".
9346			Consider it a rite of passage.
9347	root	1.387	%
9348	root	1.1	"There's one word that strikes fear into nuclear scientists..."
9349			"Oops."
9350			-- MST3K
9351	root	1.387	%
9352	root	1.1	Seems like 80-bit spills would be closer to IEEE, if not close enough to
9353			claim full support. Off-hand I'd say people would be happier with
9354			those numeric properties than with the current situation.
9355
9356			I'll think about the esoterica (probably break down and ask people here).
9357			It would certainly make gcc the most reliable x86 floating-point compiler
9358			I know. Sun's does something similar to -ffloat-store by default (gee,
9359			look at how fast that ultra is), and Microsoft's runs off the end of the
9360			stack at run-time . I don't know what Intel's does, so I'm not considering
9361			it. ;)
9362	root	1.387	%
9363	root	1.1	>I was using the localtime function to change time_t into it's various
9364			>human-readable parts. I noticed that $year gets returned as 98 and
9365			>not 1998. I tested a few different unices and got the same result.
9366			>This is expected behavior based on the examples I've seen and my own
9367			>testing. My question is how is this y2k compliant?
9368
9369			What part of your C library's documentation on localtime(3), the perlfunc
9370			documentation on the Perl localtime function, the perlfaq4 entry on `Does
9371			Perl have a year 2000 problem?', and the Y2K document on www.perl.com
9372			did you find to be unclear on the answer to this question?
9373
9374			--tom
9375	root	1.387	%
9376	root	1.1	> * Have you ever wondered how life began ?
9377
9378			In a laboratory somewhere at Bell Labs.
9379
9380			>Why does it end ?
9381
9382			Ask the X3J11 committee.
9383
9384			> * Can you tell WHY there is life ? What is the purpose of it ?
9385			> * Can YOU do anything to make your life worth living ? WHAT ?
9386
9387			To promote the the DEATH OF ANSI C! K+R FOREVER! DOWN WITH PORTABILITY!
9388	root	1.387	%
9389	root	1.1	"Unix is Perl's IDE!"
9390			-- Tom Christiansen
9391	root	1.387	%
9392	root	1.1	[Sputnik]
9393
9394			Do you honestly think the Americans would mention a Soviet success? :-)
9395			A number of years back I saw an exhibition in the US on the development of
9396			supersonic passenger aircraft. They forgot to mention Concorde. It
9397			wouldn't surprise me in the least if most people at NASA had never heard
9398			of Sputnik.
9399	root	1.387	%
9400	root	1.1	NTFS by default adds unnecessary serialization to an extent that
9401			even older file systems such as FFS do not, and its performance
9402			characteristics reflect that. In fairness, it should be said that it is
9403			the superior approach for most removable media without software control
9404			of ejection (e.g. IBM PC floppies).
9405	root	1.387	%
9406	root	1.1	Never attribute to malice what could as well be explained by stupidity.
9407			- Hanlons razor -
9408	root	1.387	%
9409	root	1.1	Shallit's Razor: Never attribute to conspiracy what may be adequately
9410			explained by stupidity or incompetence.
9411	root	1.387	%
9412	root	1.1	According to Chris Nandor:
9413			> I thought about creating a web interface to input, edit, delete entries,
9414			> but that would have taken me longer, been more complex and less secure, and
9415			> offered no significant advantages.
9416
9417			That one's in the quotes file. Thanks.
9418	root	1.387	%
9419	root	1.1	My friend who had a Compaq called one day when his built-in cdrom drive
9420			stopped responding. Their answer "its a virus. Reinstal Windows". So he did
9421			(?) and it still didn't work. He called them and they said "its a virus,
9422			reinstall." "But I just installed. If there is a virus, it came from YOUR
9423			quick restore disk." "No, no virus there, but you DO have a virus. My paper
9424			in front of me says so."
9425
9426			He took it back and bought a Gateway.
9427	root	1.387	%
9428	root	1.1	9. Deinde, ne in posterum a XII kalendas aprilis aequinoctium recedat,
9429			statuimus bissextum quarto quoque anno (uti mos est) continuari debere,
9430			praeterquam in centesimis annis; qui, quamvis bissextiles antea semper
9431			fuerint, qualem etiam esse volumus annum MDC, post eum tamen qui
9432			deinceps consequentur centesimi non omnes bissextiles sint, sed in
9433			quadringentis quibusque annis primi quique tres centesimi sine bissexto
9434			transigantur, quartus vero quisque centesimus bissextilis sit, ita ut
9435			annus MDCC, MDCCC, MDCCCC bissextiles non sint. Anno vero MM, more
9436			consueto dies bissextus intercaletur, februario dies XXIX continente,
9437			idemque ordo intermittendi intercalandique bissextum diem in
9438			quadringentis quibusque annis perpetuo conservetur.
9439	root	1.387	%
9440	root	1.1	You obviously have not dealt with Microsoft Winnt 4.0
9441			and all the Service Pack then. While one Service Pack
9442			did somewhat correct the Y2K problem was not aware that
9443			2000 was in fact a leap year. There was no way to set
9444			the date to Feb 29, 2000.
9445	root	1.387	%
9446	root	1.1	"Ernst Lehmann, die Organisationsredundanz beim Cluster-Treffen"
9447	root	1.387	%
9448	root	1.388	HP Computer NEWS 3/98 about HP 2000/CN printer (page 24): "Darüber
9449	root	1.1	hinaus ... hat der HP 2000C/CN durch den Einsatz von Intel MMX-
9450			Technologie Zugriff auf deren Farbtabellen und kann so Farbbilder
9451			schneller verarbeiten" (A mistake made when translating. It's hard to
9452			get the wrong meaning if translated back to English, sorry.)
9453	root	1.387	%
9454	root	1.1	From: Robert Lipe
9455			> > I program computers with no screens and no keyboards for a living.
9456			> > Switches and front-panels are a LUXURY! :-)
9457			>
9458			> But I guess you are not _programming_ these computers without a keyboard
9459			> and/or screen.
9460
9461			Are you familiar with the Vulcan Mind Meld?
9462	root	1.387	%
9463	root	1.1	Subject: Re: [fwd from comp.lang.python] Re: Python 2 ideas [Re: access
9464			From: Tuomas Lukka <lukka@fas.harvard.edu>
9465
9466			On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
9467			> use pedantic;
9468			> use strict 'code';
9469			>
9470			> or whatever is the syntax to switch Perl into 'dull'/'pythonish' mode.
9471
9472			use syntax 'python';
9473
9474			Let's just embrace&extend'em ;) ;)
9475
9476	root	1.387	%
9477	root	1.1	Thus it was written in the epistle of Larry Wall,
9478			>
9479			> Having discussed all this thoroughly at the Hacker's Conference this
9480			> past weekend, I've come to the conclusion that Y2K will be traumatic
9481			> primarily because people think it will be traumatic. A panic is a
9482			> panic whether or not it's justified. People get trampled in panics.
9483			>
9484			> It should be illegal to yell "Y2K" in a crowded economy. :-)
9485	root	1.387	%
9486	root	1.1	[rfc1925]
9487			Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick any two (you can't have all three).
9488	root	1.387	%
9489	root	1.1	[Alan Cox, why not port hurd to sgi, instead of linux]
9490			> A possible minus is the message-passing between the servers which might
9491			> be time-consuming.
9492
9493			"Yesterdays technology, next week" to quote an OSI saying
9494	root	1.387	%
9495	root	1.1	UNIX versions of ctags handle the C language, and often Pascal and Fortran
9496			77. Sometimes, they even handle assembly language. Almost universally,
9497			however, they do not handle C++...
9498			[from "learning the vi editor"]
9499	root	1.387	%
9500	root	1.1	> correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a thread about this a few
9501			> months back that resolved the ping -f localhost as a ping bug.
9502
9503			Indeed, as Alan Cox said:
9504
9505			So get a non-buggy ping(8) client.
9506
9507			and as Ecclesiastes said:
9508
9509			Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been
9510			already of old time, which was before us.
9511			There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any
9512			remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
9513
9514			Regards,
9515			Tigran.
9516	root	1.387	%
9517	root	1.1	SNMP stands for Security Not My Problem
9518	root	1.387	%
9519	root	1.1	[slightly broken, though...]
9520			/* "Hello World" in B for 64-bit hardware! */
9521			hw [0] "Hello World.*n";
9522			main(){
9523			extrn hw;
9524			putchar(0[hw]);
9525			hw=+1;
9526			putchar(0[hw]);
9527			}
9528	root	1.387	%
9529	root	1.1	> So what comes first the chicken or the egg? :)
9530
9531			The egg. Always. By definition.
9532	root	1.387	%
9533	root	1.1	> > PPS: Robert, I just made my first y2k fix to that script ;()
9534			>
9535			> Better check your scsi cables.
9536	root	1.387	%
9537	root	1.1	Arroganz durch Wissen
9538			[Dirk Jagdmann]
9539	root	1.387	%
9540	root	1.1	[Re: Pegasus - Gut oder Boese?]
9541			> Weil er sie dabei ja unterstuetzt. Da er aber (abgesehen von den ersten
9542			> ein- oder zweimal) nur auf Anrufen von Rosa-Girl erscheint, koennte man es
9543			> auch anders herum sagen. wenn CU Pfeift, kommt er angaloppiert 8))
9544
9545	root	1.388	was aber leider bedeutet, daß usa die Rennsemmel ständig mit
9546	root	1.1	sich rumschleppen mu?. ^_-
9547			Nur weil die Kleine die Bimmel hat!
9548
9549	root	1.388	Und wer weiß, was dieses pädophile Pferd eigentlich noch so
9550	root	1.1	bezwecken will... ^_-
9551	root	1.387	%
9552	root	1.1	>James :\
9553			>
9554			>I apologize for adding a message to this possibly trivial thread.
9555
9556			I like your sig. I hope you use it for everything you post.
9557	root	1.387	%
9558	root	1.1	From: Mason <mason@schwanda.resnet.tamu.edu>
9559			Subject: night of the undead ip stack
9560			Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:03:19 -0600 (CST)
9561	root	1.387	%
9562	root	1.1	> The person who decides to invent UNICODE support for Linux
9563			> is just asking for a black eye.
9564
9565			But Unicode for NT is such fun!
9566
9567			For example, the checked DbgPrint() bluescreens above DISPATCH_LEVEL
9568			if you try to print a Unicode string--the Unicode->ASCII
9569			translation tables are marked as pageable.
9570
9571			Since as far as I know, printk() does not have any format specifiers
9572			that cause obscure kernel panics, Linux is clearly behind in this
9573			area.
9574	root	1.387	%
9575	root	1.1	Linux: a no problem operating system for no problem people.
9576			[Lukas Grunwald]
9577	root	1.387	%
9578	root	1.1	http://dd.sh/perlfs/:
9579
9580			THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL (PRE-ALPHA) VERSION OF THE PERL FILESYSTEM.
9581			EVEN WHEN IT LOADS WITHOUT CAUSING A KERNEL PANIC, IT WILL LOCK UP
9582			YOUR MACHINE, DESTROY ALL YOUR DATA, KIDNAP YOUR FAMILY AND
9583			(DEPENDING ON SAID FAMILY'S CONFIGURATION) SHOOT YOUR CAT, DOG, AND/OR
9584			FIRST-BORN CHILD.
9585	root	1.387	%
9586	root	1.1	[a comment on http://dd.sh/perlfs/]
9587			Forget GNU/Linux. /PerL/inux will conquer all.
9588
9589			kill 0,1 if -x '/PerL/inux'; # request kernel mode
9590	root	1.387	%
9591	root	1.1	[Tim Hollebeek on real arithmetic]
9592			On a machine with a sane floating point model, the results make sense.
9593			For example, my SGI workstation prints:
9594
9595			0.00000000000000011102 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000020000 1.00000000000000040000
9596
9597			However, a machine with the Intel FPU from hell gives:
9598
9599			0.00000000000000000005 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000
9600
9601			due to the fact that whether 1+x and 1 are the same number depends on whether
9602			the numbers are in the FPU or not.
9603	root	1.387	%
9604	root	1.388	[Grüner Tip/Arte]
9605	root	1.1	Ihre Nachbarn sind zu laut und feiern andauernd Parties? Kein Problem, ihr
9606	root	1.388	Bohrer wird nachts um zwei spielend mit _jedem_ Lärm fertig....
9607	root	1.387	%
9608	root	1.1	Remember, eating healthy doesn't make you live longer, it just makes it seem
9609			longer...
9610	root	1.387	%
9611	root	1.1	[M$ about unix development tools like GCC]
9612			By the standards of the novice / intermediate developer accustomed to
9613			VB/VS/VC/VJ, these tools are incredibly primitive.
9614	root	1.387	%
9615	root	1.1	> > Praha is nice and our university is interesting, since it is according
9616			> > to tests most complex and impractical computer science university on the
9617			> > world :) I just love it...
9618			>
9619			> Oh well, great that I won't be studying there...
9620			>
9621			It is really fun.... just now I have lesson (that reminds me that I really
9622			should go now) about set theory and infinity... it is really fun and very
9623			practical...
9624			for example that you have cinema with infinity chairs and infinity plus one
9625			person wants to see movie... what do yo do?
9626			Just let sit down the first infinity persons and then last person ask first
9627			one to move to second chair, second one to move to third and so on and
9628			everyone fits.. isn't that great to know? :))
9629
9630			Jan Hubicka
9631	root	1.387	%
9632	root	1.1	> template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> A {};
9633			[...]
9634			> I think that this construction is allowed by the ANSI C++.
9635
9636			No, it is not. What you meant is
9637
9638			template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> class A {};
9639	root	1.387	%
9640	root	1.1	Jan Dubois writes:
9641			> A) perl-5.00553
9642			> path = \perl\5.00553\bin\MsWin32-x86\perl.exe
9643			> cc = cl.exe
9644			A performance analysis compiling with M$ compiler? Get real!
9645
9646			[...]
9647
9648			Ilya
9649	root	1.387	%
9650	root	1.1	>Shouldn't the kernel compile with all combinations of options.
9651
9652			Yes. Feel free to fix it and send a patch.
9653
9654			p.
9655	root	1.387	%
9656	root	1.1	[tomc]
9657			Jean-Louis provides four arguments in favor of the overloading of the
9658			logical && and \|\| operators. Here they are:
9659
9660			+------------------------------------------+
9661			\| Other languages, notably C++, permit it. \|
9662			+------------------------------------------+
9663
9664			This one is hardly persuasive. Many languages do innumerable things
9665			that Perl does not do. Just for example, take:
9666
9667			* Csh reparses and re-evals interpolated strings, allowing something
9668			like C<$cmd $var> to do interesting things.
9669			* The Fortran lexer (as it were), having no need of white space to
9670			infer tokens, allows C<DO I=1.10> and C<DO I=1,10> to coexist in an
9671			interesting way.
9672			* Icon has an entirely different notion of success and failure,
9673			allowing expressions like (X < Y < Z) to do interesting things.
9674			* Scheme has call-with-continuation, allowing co-routines to do
9675			interesting things.
9676			* C++ has template classes with abnormal typing rules even for that
9677			language, allowing parameterized meta-classes to do interesting
9678			things.
9679	root	1.387	%
9680	root	1.1	Make is like Pascal: everybody likes it, so they go in and change it.
9681			--Dennis Ritchie
9682	root	1.387	%
9683	root	1.1	perl -wlpe '}{$_=$.' file # Count the number of lines.
9684	root	1.387	%
9685	root	1.1	[not quite duff's device, but...]
9686
9687			switch (x)
9688			default:
9689			if (prime(x))
9690			case 2: case 3: case 5: case 7:
9691			process_prime(x);
9692			else
9693			case 4: case 6: case 8: case 9: case 10:
9694			process_composite(x);
9695	root	1.387	%
9696	root	1.1	Is there any truth to the rumor that the number appearing
9697			after the words "Microsoft Windows" is the minimum amount of memory,
9698			in megabytes, required for execution?
9699
9700			Craig Milo Rogers
9701	root	1.387	%
9702	root	1.1	Mark Mielke writes:
9703			> This statement is false. The simple fact that school textbooks teach it
9704			> to be indeterminate should be enough to convince you of that.
9705
9706			This is just another reference point about the state of education in
9707			US (apparently in Canada too?).
9708
9709			Ilya
9710	root	1.387	%
9711	root	1.1	[from p5p]
9712			> Now you know why threading is experimental and all, buddy.
9713
9714			Experimental schexperimental. Anything that doesn't cause an
9715			immediate coredump is not experimental. :-) (Observant readers will
9716			note that this is a more rigorous standard than Microsoft's.)
9717
9718			Nat
9719	root	1.387	%
9720	root	1.1	Needless to say, Linux awk is probably gawk, which has been taking too
9721			much steroids for a while. =)
9722
9723			--Albert Dvornik
9724			<bert@genscan.com>
9725	root	1.387	%
9726	root	1.1	Subject: Re: zero width lookbehind considered slow
9727			From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@jhereg.perl.com>
9728			Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:40:37 -0500
9729
9730			>You do not understand? Perl is slow...
9731
9732			Ilya: You are formerly invited to go play in the python
9733			or tcl crowd instead of here.
9734
9735			--tom
9736	root	1.387	%
9737	root	1.1	>What's it? Can linux be improved too? Or has it already been improved?
9738
9739			Linux has never done anything so stupid in the first place.
9740
9741			Linus
9742	root	1.387	%
9743	root	1.1	On the 8th day god created email. And got noted the world was good. Then the
9744			devil added HTML mail...
9745	root	1.387	%
9746	root	1.1	linux/lib/vsprintf.c: * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds fucked it up :-)
9747			linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/binfmt_aout32.c: /* Fuck me plenty... */
9748			linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/ptrace.c:/* Fuck me gently with a chainsaw... */
9749	root	1.387	%
9750	root	1.1	On 1998-10-11T02:37:57,
9751			Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> said:
9752
9753			> Believe me Microsoft think Linux is a threat now. Its level with things like
9754			> java in their perceived threat list, so you can expect all the usual MS
9755			> techniques to start coming this way and very soon.
9756
9757			Arm the gnus!
9758	root	1.387	%
9759	root	1.1	[David Miller after (another) endless discussion with Richard Kenner]
9760
9761			Anyways, I tired (just like everyone else) of arguing endlessly with
9762			you, you're in the past, you no longer constrain my ability to improve
9763			gcc, so go away.
9764	root	1.387	%
9765	root	1.1	I received my copy of Visual Studio 6.0 today. I couldn't believe that it
9766			wanted to install the C++ compiler into a directory called:
9767
9768			"\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98"
9769
9770			But anyways, I just had to find out if it was finally possible to compile
9771			Perl (without PERL_OBJECT) with optimization (-O2).
9772	root	1.387	%
9773	root	1.1	[on perl version numbering]
9774			> So it could be 5.006 for the developers, but "ThreadPerl" or "Perl with
9775			> Multithreads" (or some such) for the journalists, if that's what
9776			> journalists need to make them pay attention.
9777
9778			Down that path lies "Perl version 5.006, codename `Ticklish Uvula',
9779			was released today" madness.
9780	root	1.387	%
9781	root	1.1	[on perl version numbering]
9782			> elaine> 5.1 would be a good thing(tm) as it would draw attention,
9783			> elaine> etc. in a way that a developers versioning would. The
9784			> elaine> world is not populated by people who think the same
9785			> elaine> way. To that end, this would be a good change. Of course,
9786			> elaine> we could call it Perl99.
9787			>
9788			> To me, Perl seems to be recognized for it's language qualities, not
9789			> for marketing reasons. IMHO, perl may keep this difference with other
9790			> wintel product. More than that : Perl99, would let believe people that
9791			> it is not Y2K proofed, or still in beta (<1.00). So it's not a good
9792			> marketing name, anyway.
9793
9794			Right. Then, to be Y2K compliant, we'll have to call it Perl1999. Hmmm.
9795			"The year perl left earth's orbit"? Maybe we need to get the NASA guys to
9796			put perl on the next low-cost spaceshot.
9797
9798			Of course, then c.l.p.m's motto could be "We do not commit mindless
9799			violence..." :-)
9800	root	1.387	%
9801	root	1.1	Rule 1 says that Larry says that Larry has the last say, unless he changes
9802			his mind in which case he still has the last say.
9803	root	1.387	%
9804	root	1.1	> >I never said it did.. I should have said: Binary only drivers encourage
9805			> >poor drivers
9806			>
9807			> No it doesn't.
9808
9809			Indeed. Its down to
9810
9811			Profit = (units * margin) - overhead
9812
9813			and the folks who decide "overhead" arent the programmers but the management.
9814			The folks who say "you have two weeks allocated to write this driver, then
9815			we ship it" are the folks to take the issue up with, and that goes source
9816			or binaries.
9817	root	1.387	%
9818	root	1.1	dig txt leap.yp.to
9819	root	1.387	%
9820	root	1.1	"The fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that nobody's after me..."
9821	root	1.387	%
9822	root	1.1	[linux-kernel on endianess issues with NIPQUAD]
9823
9824			\|> Do I read this correct?!? Is it more acceptable to have a bug[*],
9825			\|> than a not optimal fix?!?!?
9826			\|>
9827			\|> s/optimal/stupid/
9828
9829			What's stupid is little endian. <g>
9830
9831			Andreas.
9832	root	1.387	%
9833	root	1.1	[Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
9834			...
9835			A closely related question is `What is 1 minute before 23:59:60?''.
9836
9837			Here's a good one: `What is 1 month before 1 February 1995 in
9838			Kiritimati?''. There was no 1 January 1995 in Kiritimati; they
9839			skipped a day by moving the clocks ahead 24 hours. Similar issues
9840			arise when asking about times that occur within smaller, more typical
9841			UTC offset changes. A number of obscure questions arise here, and I'm
9842			not sure it's worth standardizing all the answers.
9843	root	1.387	%
9844	root	1.1	[D.J.Bernstein on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
9845
9846			Paul Eggert writes:
9847			> which I am calling the `modified TIME_TAI''
9848
9849			Your time differences break down near leap seconds. Ever watched xntpd
9850			try to handle a leap second? Wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble.
9851	root	1.387	%
9852	root	1.1	For binary only drivers you can assume most vendors will build x86 only
9853			however.
9854
9855			"We don't have the tools"
9856			"We can't support a non intel build"
9857			"We don't have that sort of machine"
9858			"Its not worth the time cost"
9859			"Whats an Alpha ?"
9860	root	1.387	%
9861	root	1.1	On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote:
9862
9863			> The original message was received at Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:39:56 -0400
9864			> from mini [10.0.0.3]
9865			>
9866			> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
9867			> <mailproc@fred>
9868			>
9869			> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
9870			> procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
9871			> procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
9872			> procmail: can't load library 'libc.so.5'
9873			> 554 <mailproc@fred>... unknown mailer error 16
9874	root	1.387	%
9875	root	1.1	> Here is the difficulty with this discussion:
9876			> No documented problem
9877			> No reason to believe that the "solution" solves the unspecified "problem"
9878			> No clear understanding of the effects of this change on the system
9879			>
9880			> Why, this could be a discusion among AIX developers!
9881	root	1.387	%
9882	root	1.1	> This would be a reasonable committee-like compromise that might
9883			> satisfy neither of us (:-).
9884	root	1.387	%
9885	root	1.1	By default Microsoft has set Explorer to use gz files as VRML, you need to
9886			change the association for .gz / vrml from "start vrml program" to "always ask"
9887
9888			dave
9889	root	1.387	%
9890	root	1.1	On 10 Aug 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
9891			DG> You're not programming MS-DOS applications are you?
9892
9893			BP> Hell no. I wouldn't touch MS-DOS with a ten-foot network cable.
9894	root	1.387	%
9895	root	1.1	[Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
9896
9897			Date: 10 Oct 1998 15:35:05 -0000
9898			From: "D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>
9899
9900			Paul Eggert writes:
9901			> * 29 February if it's a leap lear, 28 February otherwise.
9902
9903			If that's 1 month before 31 March, then what's 1 month before 30 March?
9904			1 month before 29 March?
9905
9906			The same as 1 month before 31 March.
9907
9908			1 month before 28 March?
9909
9910			28 February.
9911
9912			And what's 1 month after 28 February? 1 month after 27 February? 1 month
9913			_before_ 27 February?
9914
9915			28 March, 27 March, and 27 January.
9916	root	1.387	%
9917	root	1.1	Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
9918
9919			>Nils Goesche wrote:
9920			>> So make a security check first:
9921			>>
9922			>> if (status = UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK)
9923			>> launch_full_counterstrike();
9924			>
9925			>Hmmm. The way the worlds been going lately, AI wouldn't trust that code to
9926			>do the job. Here's the revised version:
9927			>
9928			>if(status == UNDER_NULEAR_ATTACK); /* Corrected dangerous
9929			> = instead of == error*/
9930			> launch_full_counterstrike();
9931			>
9932			>Now isn't that much more reliable?
9933			>
9934			>--
9935			>Email: cyrand@hotmail.com
9936
9937			The following variant is less reliable but much safer:
9938
9939			if (status == UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK); /* Correct dangerous
9940			launch_full_counterstrike (); = instead == error */
9941	root	1.387	%
9942	root	1.1	It is even more cheerful than that. Not so long time ago a customers
9943			of ours totally destroyed his NT installation on Alpha.
9944
9945			He found on a manufacturer page, no money - for a download, "NT driver"
9946			for his particular piece of a hardware. So he followed instructions
9947			to the letter - "Installation Wizzard" and all that crap - and the thing
9948			happily installed clobbering, as it is customary in these circles,
9949			essential system libraries with its own versions. The catch was that
9950			this driver was for NT/Intel and these bozos did not even bother to
9951			check for an architecture or at least mention something in some blurb.
9952			Ooops! No chance even to try to boot anymore.
9953
9954			The saving grace was that the installation was rather new, so loses
9955			were not big, and he had an opportunity to practice an essential skill
9956			of re-installing Windows NT. Ah, and yes, this was the only NT driver
9957			available for that hardware from any source.
9958			What do you plan on doing? Using a PA system for networking? :)
9959			Whats next? A Smell modem? It would bring a new meaning to packet
9960			sniffing!
9961	root	1.387	%
9962	root	1.1	"I'd rather spend 10 hours reading source code than 10 minutes on a
9963			technical support line that isn't"
9964	root	1.387	%
9965	root	1.1	[from linux-kernel]
9966			`This code fills 8 million seats, we therefore decide what's standard.''
9967	root	1.387	%
9968	root	1.1	[...]
9969			And especially with new machines users have a lot of clout. Several UK
9970			suppliers now carry Buslogic cards partly because they got fed up of
9971
9972			"I'd like to order a dual PII/300, 256Mb of RAM, 17" monitor
9973			4 4Gig IBM disks, and a buslogic scsi controller"
9974			"We dont do buslogic only adaptec"
9975			"Nothing else"
9976			"Sorry"
9977			[Click]
9978
9979			Alan
9980	root	1.387	%
9981	root	1.388	Fünfzig Prozent der Amerikaner wurden in ihrer Kindheit sexuell mißbraucht,
9982			während weitere fünfzig Prozent von Außerirdischen entführt wurden.
9983	root	1.387	%
9984	root	1.1	> Let's not forget that this is just an informal, free
9985			> software project. Unlke the US House of Representatives
9986			> we do not yet posess nuclear capability (certain RTEMS
9987			> users excepted, of course!).
9988
9989			Hmmm, if some RTEMS users have nuclear facilities attached to their
9990			systems, they might be well advised to be careful using FORTRAN as
9991			their language of choice. The comp.lang.fortran FAQ states (with
9992			concurrence from resident X3J3 members) that "using a non-standard
9993			construct might start WW III, if the necessary (optional) hardware
9994			is installed"
9995
9996			[Toon Moene in private discussion]
9997	root	1.387	%
9998	root	1.1	Newsgroups: alt.config
9999
10000			L. Harris wrote:
10001			>
10002			> Testing
10003
10004			you failed.
10005	root	1.387	%
10006	root	1.1	Roswell {Unit 6 of 5 Sam Borg} Coverup [Rev. joWazzoo - well mannered despammer]
10007			<JOWazzoo@WhiteICE.com> at We are Sam Borg Spam Assimilators Ltd. - Area 51 HQ
10008	root	1.387	%
10009	root	1.1	Perl is really designed more for the guys that will hack Perl at least
10010			20 minutes a day for the rest of their career. TCL/Python is more a
10011			"20 minutes a week", and VB is probably in that "20 minutes a month"
10012			group. :) -- Randal Schwartz
10013	root	1.387	%
10014	root	1.1	> alternative, when it comes to stability and power...Not to mention the
10015			> fact that bugs and fixes are very quickly available and don't come in
10016			> 18MB+ "Service Packs" :).
10017
10018			What, you mean you _paid_ for service pack '98?
10019	root	1.387	%
10020	root	1.1	We got this INTERNET because we whan't more information ( to learn ) now it
10021			seem's people can't handle what they see. You say freedom is a mater of
10022			choice (well it is) you have the freedom to choose to carry your butt some
10023			where else...
10024	root	1.387	%
10025	root	1.1	Steve Orzel (phloam@vol.com) wrote:
10026			[...]
10027			: The purpose of the newsgroup is to help out other people that have questions
10028			: about a certain topic.
10029	root	1.387	%
10030	root	1.1	Mark Robinson wrote:
10031			>
10032			> Does any have any source code to games that I can have? Does anybody
10033			> know where I can get game sources(legally)?
10034
10035			Here's the trial version of the three-room text adventure I'm going to
10036			write. I'm not finished yet, though.
10037
10038			void main (void)
10039			{
10040			printf ("You are in a dark room.\n");
10041			printf ("\n");
10042			printf ("You feel a sharp pain.\n");
10043			printf ("You have died.\n");
10044			printf ("\n");
10045			printf ("!!! GAME OVER !!!");
10046			}
10047
10048			(Don't tell, but I took some of the code from Quake.)
10049
10050			--
10051			John Kugelman. kugelman@mnsinc.com
10052	root	1.387	%
10053	root	1.1	[mail I got after releasing a zip-password cracker, the second biggest
10054			mistake I ever made]
10055
10056			From: "Tom Miller"
10057			Subject: Can
10058			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
10059
10060			Hay man can you send me some hacking tips and tricks please
10061			send to kymmiller@bigpond.com
10062			my name is Tom Miller
10063
10064			From: "Tom Miller"
10065			Subject: Wait
10066			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
10067
10068			Hey man its Tom can you also send me any easy systems to hack and the
10069			passwords also send me any infomation about hacking websites thank you
10070	root	1.387	%
10071	root	1.1	From: lm@bitmover.com (Larry McVoy)
10072
10073			[...] then think a little before flaming. Or better yet, produce something
10074			better. Flaming is easy but it is basically masturbation without the orgasm
10075			so why bother? [...]
10076	root	1.387	%
10077	root	1.388	Günter Höns <guenter.hoens@gmd.de>
10078	root	1.1
10079			Newsgroups: de.alt.ufo
10080
10081			Offensichtlich ist noch keinem das Wasser-Wachstum aufgefallen, das sogar
10082			jeden Tag geschieht. Jeden Tag waechst der Wasserberg im Meer um mehrere
10083			Meter, ist dann naeher an der Sonne und verdunstet dann. Sogenannte
10084			Wissenschaftler haben eine abenteuerliche Theorie ueber den Einfluss des
10085			Mondes auf dieses Wachstum aufgestellt, aber inzwischen wissen wir es
10086			besser: Die Wasser-Molekuele werden von Neutrinos getroffen, und verdoppeln
10087			sich dann.
10088	root	1.387	%
10089	root	1.1	CRASH(8)
10090			no fs
10091			A device has disappeared from the mounted-device table.
10092			Definitely hardware or software error.
10093
10094			Unix Version 7 Manual
10095	root	1.387	%
10096	root	1.1	On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Larry Wall wrote:
10097			>
10098			> Maybe Pi looks like this:
10099			>
10100			> =for C
10101			> i++; /* add 1 to i */
10102			> =end
10103			> =for C++
10104			> i.value() += 1; // add 1 to i, probably
10105			> =end
10106			> =for Java
10107			> system().foo().bar().i().value().please().increment(); // ???
10108			> =end
10109			>
10110			> :-)
10111	root	1.387	%
10112	root	1.1	> > USENET is not the non-clickable part of WWW!
10113	root	1.387	%
10114	root	1.1	[on linux 2.1.111]
10115
10116			The horrid underlining which was a feature with the monochrome Linux vt's on
10117			the previous two releases of the kernel has gone. Unfortunately, so has the
10118			cursor. A couple of brief experiments didn't result in me finding a way to
10119			turn it on.
10120	root	1.387	%
10121	root	1.1	[...]
10122			its a true story, it happend this weekend in a nice country
10123			between Belgium (wellknown for its Dutroux-case) and Germany
10124			(wellknown for its Bratwurst), lets call it the Lowlands...
10125			[...]
10126	root	1.387	%
10127	root	1.1	I get a sense of god-like proportions when I patch /dev/kmem with dd(1).
10128
10129			Chad C Giffin
10130	root	1.387	%
10131	root	1.1	[usenet, an anology]
10132			Mary Green's car was smoking. She got worried. "Whatever should I do?"
10133			worried Mary... Well, as she drove along she noticed a florists shop. "Aha!
10134			Thought Mary, "Flour shops are full of thoughtless men who need to apologize to
10135			their wives. These men are the sometimes the same ones I see swearing under
10136			the hoods of their cars in the shade of a tree."
10137
10138			"Brrring" said the bell of the door to the flower shop as Mary poked her head
10139			through the door.
10140			"HELP!!! MY CAR IS SMOKING!" Screamed Mary.
10141			"There is a garage right next door." Said the shopkeeper.
10142			"That's right," Said Melvin, "And there is a parts store across the street. If
10143			you ask for Fred, he's pretty savvy about that kind of stuff."
10144			Now Joe was also in the flower store. This was his first time in trouble, so
10145			he did not hear the 30 or 40 people per day who came in screaming about their
10146			cars smoking (mostly men, of course -- the ones under the shade trees,
10147			usually.)
10148
10149			"Why don't you help the stinking lady!!" Screamed Joe. "It might be your
10150			muffler bearings..." he continued. Or maybe it's your deisel glow plugs or
10151			your tire pressure..."
10152			Now Tim, also new to the flower shop felt the courage to chime in, "Or it could
10153			even be your cooling system. Sometimes a hose gets a crack."
10154			"My car smoked once and it was an oil leak, where the head gasket was spraying
10155			oil in the manifold." Hollered Larry
10156			"Hey lady, why don't you get your car the patch if it's smoking" chortled Glen.
10157			Well, the hollering went on into the evening, and the lady finally went to the
10158			gas station and found that the heater core had a tiny split and was repaired in
10159			three days for a cost of $175.23.
10160	root	1.387	%
10161	root	1.1	> Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
10162
10163			Sicher, das macht der Inzest, und die Isolation!:)
10164	root	1.387	%
10165	root	1.1	> Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
10166
10167			Stimmt, deswegen waren sie wohl auch die ersten, die Hitler hinterherliefen...
10168			:-(
10169	root	1.387	%
10170	root	1.1	>Mt 24,34 Wahrlich, ich sage euch: Dieses Geschlecht wird nicht vergehen, bis
10171			>dies alles geschieht.
10172			>Und es verging nicht.
10173
10174			So what?
10175
10176			Ich dachte eher an:
10177
10178			" 'Und sein Wabbel wird an einer Lanze aufgespiesst', wiederholte der
10179			Oberste Groesste Meister grimmig. Im Hintergrund knarrte etwas, als
10180			Bruder Pfoertner versuchte, das klemmende Portal zu oeffnen. 'Sind wir
10181			jetzt alle soweit? Befinden sich vielleicht noch andere Unwissende
10182			unter uns,die sich verirrt haben?' fuegte er mit aetzendem Sarkasmus
10183			hinzu. 'Gut. Wunderbar. Ich bin ja _so_ froh. Vermutlich brauche ich
10184			nicht zu fragen, ob die vier Wachtuerme geschlossen sind, oder? Oh,
10185			ausgezeichnet. Hat sich jemand die Muehe gemacht, der Heiligen Hose
10186			die Beichte abzunehmen? Ach, tatsaechlich? Auf die richtige Art und
10187			Weise? Und wenn ich nachsehe? Na schoen. Sind vor den Fenstern die
10188			roten Kordeln des Intellekts gespannt worden? Gut. Nun, dann koennen
10189			wir jetzt vielleicht beginnen.' ".
10190
10191			Terry Pratchett, "Wachen! Wachen!", S. 15f
10192
10193			Antje
10194	root	1.387	%
10195	root	1.1	[....]
10196
10197			Da muss ich ja, obwohl ich beinahe meinen Humor verloren haette, leise
10198			grinsen. Ich darf zusammenfassen: Du bringst uns keine Beweise, weil Du 1.
10199			zu arm und 2. zu sehr ausgelastet mit der Rettung der Welt und der Zukunft
10200			und so bist. Ausserdem brauchst Du keine Beweise, weil sich Dein
10201			Gedankengebaeude nach eingehender Nabelschau als selbsttragend erwiesen hat.
10202			Finde ich gut! Akzeptiert!
10203
10204			Da will ich nicht weiter stoeren,
10205
10206			Antje
10207	root	1.387	%
10208	root	1.1	It seems that writing to /dev/vcs0 makes the console singing "Ugh,
10209			lalala, I love you baby..."
10210			--
10211			Pavel.Janik@inet.cz
10212	root	1.387	%
10213	root	1.1	On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Linus Torvalds wrote:
10214			>
10215			> Kubys
10216
10217			Kubys is my evil twin brother. Sorry about that.
10218
10219			Linus
10220	root	1.387	%
10221	root	1.1	> eieio stands for "Enforce In-Order Execution of I/O".
10222
10223			.... and it is definitely my favorite name for an assembly language
10224			instruction (the non-native-English speakers on the list presumably
10225			don't know the childhood song "Old McDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O").
10226	root	1.387	%
10227	root	1.1	> It is big and never uses.
10228
10229			That's parses like English, but I'll be hornswoggled if I can figure
10230			out what it means.
10231			--
10232			Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
10233	root	1.387	%
10234	root	1.1	[...] HP's PA-8500, for example, has 1.5 Mbytes of L1 cache on-chip. The
10235			company has described the 8500 as a cache SRAM with an ancillary CPU. [...]
10236	root	1.387	%
10237	root	1.1	From: Dave Cinege <dcinege@psychosis.com>
10238			Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:10:31 -0400
10239
10240			Terry L Ridder wrote:
10241
10242			> at some future date end up being released under the BSD License is what
10243			> is being discussed.
10244
10245			Well my licence is bigger then your licence.
10246	root	1.387	%
10247	root	1.1	[gtk/testgtk, after dragging & dropping an object:]
10248
10249			Drop data of type text/plain was:
10250
10251			Bill Gates demands royalties for your use of his innovation
10252
10253			[and the button reads]
10254
10255			Continue with life in spite of this oppression
10256	root	1.387	%
10257	root	1.1	Joshua Waxman <jwaxman@ymail.yu.edu> writes:
10258
10259			While DJGPP is indeed a C as well as a C compiler, there are certain
10260
10261			A terribly succinct, as well as a true, statement. However, it has a
10262			certain amount of redundancy.
10263	root	1.387	%
10264	root	1.1	Compatibility with oneself is Microsoft's greatest strength. When they hit
10265			the 64 bit transition they will hit a major internal incompatibility problem.
10266
10267			...
10268
10269			Peter da Silva <peter@baileynm.com>
10270	root	1.387	%
10271	root	1.1	>Hello,
10272			>
10273			>I am new to Perl. Can anyone tell me where I can download a full
10274			>operational Perl version for a Windows 95 system?
10275			>
10276
10277			Of course it all depends on what you mean by "a full operational Perl
10278			version" Perl on Win32 has limitations that are largely due to the
10279			nature of the underlying OS, Perl on Win95 has further limitations
10280			compared with NT due to its own shortcomings .
10281	root	1.387	%
10282	root	1.1	An injunction delaying Windows 98 would clearly have a negative impact
10283			on the country as a whole.
10284			Compaq President & CEO Eckhard Pfeiffer,
10285			explaining why Microsoft shouldn't be
10286			prosecuted under anti-monopoly laws.
10287	root	1.387	%
10288	root	1.1	With a PC, I always felt limited by the software available. On Unix, I am
10289			limited by my knowledge. --Peter J. Schoenster <pschon@baste.magibox.net>
10290	root	1.387	%
10291	root	1.1	There is a need to keep from being locked into Open Systems. --IBM sales rep
10292	root	1.387	%
10293	root	1.1	In comp.lang.perl.misc,
10294			Stylin <stylinsty@yahoo.comREMOVE> writes:
10295			:Can anyone point me to the algorithm for creating a unique id?
10296
10297			$id = `cat /dev/kmem`;
10298
10299			--tom
10300			--
10301			Real programmers can write assembly code in any language. :-)
10302			--Larry Wall in <8571@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>
10303	root	1.387	%
10304	root	1.1	Newsgroup: comp.lang.perl.misc
10305			Subject: Larry 1 Bill 0
10306	root	1.387	%
10307	root	1.1	On 3 Jul 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
10308
10309			> The only problem with these AIs is that they don't handle references
10310			> to themselves as AIs very well. In faSegmentation fault (core dumped)
10311			> NO CARRIER
10312			> !@&#@#%T^@&(GUSD(@!&(@#R(FERHGH*(@#(&$&#@Y!&R
10313	root	1.387	%
10314	root	1.1	> People come here to ask questions, not for intellectual gratification, but
10315			> rather they are seeking solutions. As such, the incorrect answer was
10316			> better.
10317
10318			There's something... terribly wrong with this statement. I can't quite put
10319			my finger on it. Hmmm.
10320	root	1.387	%
10321	root	1.1	comp.lang.c does not exist to accomodate the laziness of those who cannot be
10322			bothered to learn netiquette. That's what comp.lang.c++ is for.
10323	root	1.387	%
10324	root	1.1	\|> : > but... a microwave is an example of an embedded system,
10325			\|>
10326			\|> : Who says? He just said it was a microwave. He didn't say it was
10327			\|> : a free-standing implimentation.
10328			\|>
10329			\|> This is approaching arguing for the sake of argument. Have you
10330			\|> ever seen a microwave oven that supports a hosted C environment?
10331
10332			The Lipton Ritchie Model 8 did. I'm sure that many posters will
10333			point out that Lipton's implementation of the stdio libraries was
10334			horrendously buggy. It was, but it was still a great system. It
10335			remains the only C implementation I know of that could be used to
10336			build Bison, and then cook it.
10337
10338			Viva la buffalo burgers.
10339	root	1.387	%
10340	root	1.1	A strategically-placed PDP-11 can be used to heat your entire
10341			home. I've got one in my basement, next to a large box of "She's
10342			The Sheriff" drink coasters. I sold my furnace years ago. The
10343			Digital Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning Corporation
10344			can be found online at http://www.dhvacc.com/.
10345	root	1.387	%
10346	root	1.1	The lbxproxy program has various options, all of which are optional.
10347			-- lbxproxy(1)
10348	root	1.387	%
10349	root	1.1	Re: Where to learn Windows programming...
10350
10351			\|> I'll take a Schildt book any day, thanks.
10352
10353			Great. I'm expecting to see the line above as a back-cover blurb
10354			on the next "Bullschildt: The Complete Reference".
10355	root	1.387	%
10356	root	1.1	Subject: Re: The wrong position of while, if and else?
10357
10358			that's some ugly piece of code buddy...
10359	root	1.387	%
10360	root	1.1	In article <1998062718481700.OAA03186@ladder01.news.aol.com>, eyrei@aol.com (EYREI) writes:
10361			\|> I have recently started learning the C Language. I have created a simple file
10362			\|> to determine whether or not a number is Prime. When I run it, the program
10363			\|> crashes with the error message :- Unhandled Exception :- General Protection
10364			\|> Exception 0x5FD7:0x379F. Prime(1) Processor Fault.
10365
10366			\|> What does this mean.
10367
10368			It means you've got a broken operating system, and should immediately
10369			install [free\|net\|open]BSD[OS] or Linux.
10370	root	1.387	%
10371	root	1.1	Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
10372
10373			On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Emulov wrote:
10374			> Hi, i don't know if this is a stupid question..
10375
10376			Off-topic, too! Imagine that.
10377	root	1.387	%
10378	root	1.1	"Right now we are the most shit hot piece of PC networking software on the
10379			planet. The only people who can touch us are FreeBSD (who also dont do
10380			streams)."
10381			-- Alan Cox, in "Streams and Linux"
10382	root	1.387	%
10383	root	1.1	"Perl combines all of the worst aspects of BASIC, C and line noise."
10384			- Keith Packard <keithp@ncd.com>
10385	root	1.387	%
10386	root	1.1	Lord Fellatio <richter_m@hotmail.com>
10387
10388			>Wo soll das Loch denn dann sein? Im Meeresboden?
10389
10390			Klaro.
10391
10392			>Von oben duerfte man es also ueberhaupt nicht sehen
10393			>koennen, da ueber dem potentiellen Loch im Meeresboden doch
10394			>wahrscheinlich erstmal Wasser und dann viel Eis liegen wuerde. Wie
10395			>verhindern die Ausserirdischen denn, dass Wasser ins Loch einstroemt?
10396
10397	root	1.388	Na ist doch völlig logo, mit nem rotierenden Traktorstrahl. Die
10398	root	1.1	Energie klauen die ?r***e dem Erdmagnetfeld.
10399
10400			>Gibt es da einen kosmischen Badewannenstoepsel? Haben sie es mit
10401			>Eisbergen verstopft? Oder benutzen sie das einstroemende Wasser zu
10402			>Kajakfahrten bis hinunter zum Suedpol? (Das waere doch auch endlich
10403			>mal eine einleuchtende Erklaerung fuer die Eismassen, die die
10404			>Antarktis bedecken - man muesste halt nur, der Kontinentaldrift
10405			>folgend, immer wieder neue Schaechte bohren. Oder die Kontinentaldrift
10406			>einfach wegdiskutieren...)
10407
10408			Die enorme Zentrifugalkraft im Erdinnern schleudert das Wasser wieder
10409			am Nordpolpol raus, falls der Traktorstrahl versagen sollte (Dies
10410			passiert immer dann, wenn das Erdmagnetfeld umkippt). Nun kommt sicher
10411	root	1.388	der Einwand, die Erde würde zu langsam rotieren. Das ist nur bedingt
10412			richtig. Richtig ist hingegen, daß die Rotationsgeschwindigkeit im
10413			Erdinnern um den Faktor 1000 (ca; sehr schwer zu messen: Magma) größer
10414			ist als auf der Erdoberfläche. Dies ist auch die Ursache für die
10415	root	1.1	Kontinentaldrift und die Mondphasen.
10416
10417			Die Mondphasen wiederum beeinflussen das Erdmagnetfeld und sind daher
10418	root	1.388	die Ursache für die Sonnenflecken. Den Sonnenflecken haben wir auch
10419			die momentane Klimaveränderung zu verdanken. Auf der anderen Seite hat
10420			die Zunahme der Treibhausgase eine Erhöhung des Reflektionsvermögens
10421			der Atmosphäre zur Folge, welches dazu führt, daß ein Teil der
10422			Sonnenenergie zur Sonne zurückreflektiert wird. Dies heizt wiederum
10423			die Sonnenflecken auf und verkürzt deren Zyklus. All dies wird sich in
10424			den nächten Monaten so aufschaukeln, daß vorraussichtlich im Novemner
10425	root	1.1	2002 das Erdmagnetfeld zusammenbrechen wird. Wie damals bei den Dinos.
10426			Nur war dort ein Kometeneinschlag die Ursache.
10427
10428			cu in hell 2002
10429	root	1.387	%
10430	root	1.1	"Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '85, Windows '95"
10431	root	1.387	%
10432	root	1.1	>In unix, one might say 'man 3 crypt'.
10433
10434			Of course, on a Solaris system this won't give you what you want. You
10435			get a message that it can't find the man page for 3. It then prints
10436			the man page for crypt(1).
10437
10438			Of course, all a beginner has to do is figure out that the 3 is the
10439			section number in the Unix manual. He can then use man man to find
10440			that on Solaris one uses -s to specify the section so he'll try
10441
10442			man -s3 crypt
10443
10444			Unfortunately, that doesn't work either. He'll get the message "No
10445			entry for crypt in section(s) 3 of the manual."
10446
10447			If he doesn't give up, he can go back to the manual page for man and
10448			find that the -a switch prints all matching manual pages. Or perhaps
10449			he can figure out to use the command
10450
10451			man -s3 Intro.3
10452
10453			to get a list of everything in section 3. He'll then find out that
10454			crypt is in section 3C so he should use
10455
10456			man -s3c crypt
10457
10458			Gee. I don't understand why beginners have so much trouble with this
10459			stuff. I've only been programming Unix for 15 years and I don't have
10460			any trouble.
10461			--
10462			Michael M Rubenstein
10463	root	1.387	%
10464	root	1.1	Take a moment to consider these lines:
10465
10466			%OVERLOAD=( '""' => sub { join("", @{$_[0]}) } );
10467
10468			sub html { my($type)=shift; bless ["<$type>", @_, "</$type>"]; }
10469
10470			:-) I love Perl 5! Thankyou Larry and Ilya.
10471
10472			Regards,
10473			Tim Bunce.
10474
10475			p.s. If you didn't get it, think about recursive data types: html(html())
10476			p.p.s. I'll turn this into a much more practical example in a day or two.
10477			p.p.p.s. It's a pity that overloads are not inherited. Is this a bug?
10478	root	1.387	%
10479	root	1.1	From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10480
10481			...
10482
10483			> now is evil". This only shows two things: you never looked at the bad
10484			> experiences of the industry where following a rotten design and
10485			> keeping backward compatibility lead to unusable systems. And second:
10486
10487			I worked for 3com. I know eveyrhting about following a rotten design until
10488			its unusable, believe me I do.
10489	root	1.387	%
10490	root	1.1	Ok(slow) -> !NeedComputer
10491
10492			Semour Cray
10493	root	1.387	%
10494	root	1.1	Ullrich Jans at University of Karlsruhe, Germany:
10495
10496			Oh Gott! Es ist voller crons!
10497	root	1.387	%
10498	root	1.1	From: p00h <p00h@MONMOUTH.COM>
10499			Subject: Re: AOL for Windows DoS/Exploit
10500
10501			aol supports PARTIAL html, its like win95's implementation of tcp/ip
10502			it only supports parts of it
10503	root	1.387	%
10504	root	1.1	egcs/gcc/gcse.c:
10505			/* Help stamp out big monolithic functions! */
10506	root	1.387	%
10507	root	1.1	[...] Yes, I'm being sarcastic. Especially regarding HPPA assembler syntax
10508			as provided by HP, which was designed by someone who should not have been
10509			let near a language-design project like that, too often "little languages",
10510			whether assemblers, tools, or C++, are designed by people who are unaware
10511			of, or give little thought to, the outright readability of code written in
10512			the language, in the sense that the basic semantics should be fairly obvious
10513			without the reader having to memorize lots of semantic information.
10514
10515			(In HPPA assembler's case, one glaring stupidity was the nullified branches,
10516			which have completely different semantics depending on whether the label
10517			being branched to happens to assemble to a negative or positive offset! A
10518			smarter design would have required the programmer to specify whether such a
10519			branch was a "forward" or "backward" branch explicitly, then the assembler
10520			and/or linker would complain if reality didn't match the programmer's
10521			specification. I've never looked into whether GNU's HPPA as fixes this
10522			botch; I gather GNU as fixes many botches, though, so it wouldn't surprise
10523			me if it did, even though that might make for some compatibility problems
10524			with existing HP as code.) [...]
10525
10526			tq vm, (burley)
10527	root	1.387	%
10528	root	1.1	libc/posix/regex.h:
10529			/* The following two types have to be signed and unsigned integer type
10530			wide enough to hold a value of a pointer. For most ANSI compilers
10531			ptrdiff_t and size_t should be likely OK. Still size of these two
10532			types is 2 for Microsoft C. Ugh... */
10533			typedef long int s_reg_t;
10534			typedef unsigned long int active_reg_t;
10535	root	1.387	%
10536	root	1.1	libc/db2/db.h:
10537			/*
10538			* While Microsoft's compiler is ANSI C compliant, it doesn't have _STDC_
10539			* defined by default, you specify a command line flag or #pragma to turn
10540			* it on. Don't do that, however, because some of Microsoft's own header
10541			* files won't compile.
10542			*/
10543	root	1.387	%
10544	root	1.1	> UTC variation and begining and ending dates of DST (if observed) would be
10545			> great.
10546
10547			I answered only the places I can comment on.
10548
10549			> BASSAS DA INDIA
10550
10551			This rock is below water half of the time!
10552			If any inhabitants have been there, I do not think they observe DST
10553			on a regular basis! ;-)
10554	root	1.387	%
10555	root	1.1	# ./test-plugin.pl
10556			Bizarre copy of CODE in sassign at /root/.gimp/plug-ins/test-plugin.pl line 40.
10557			wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)
10558	root	1.387	%
10559	root	1.1	>
10560			> The "where do you want to go today?" generation has taken the
10561			> developer out of the "programmer" by removing the vital, development
10562			> tools from the environment and precanning software.
10563
10564			No kidding. Point. Click. Point. Click. Point. Click. Brain Atrophy.
10565	root	1.387	%
10566	root	1.1	Lars Chr Hausmann <36haus@but.auc.dk> writes:
10567
10568			>Hello!
10569
10570			>I have to write something about, what Perl is.
10571			>I need some crystal clear info about, what perl is. So if any of you
10572			>would be so kind just to mail. Then I would be grateful!
10573
10574
10575			Perl.
10576
10577			regards
10578			jobst
10579	root	1.387	%
10580	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Cyrix 6x86MX and Centaur C6 CPUs in 2.1.102
10581			From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10582			Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:31:02 +0100 (BST)
10583
10584			> Well, that depends. They SHOULD be. By Intel 'standards' laff, they have
10585			> to be identical stepping, indicating identical features. However, I've
10586
10587			They don't. Pentiums have fairly strict rules, P6/PII much less. Also Intel
10588			are pretty good at following the MP 1.1/1.4 standard its the motherboard
10589			makers who get it wrong - primarily the BIOS is full of bugs. It appears
10590			nobody tests bios code against specs any more. It looks like they do
10591			compile flash, boot 95, boot NT, ship. The quality of bios code has dived to
10592			the absolute pits.
10593	root	1.387	%
10594	root	1.1	Unix never says `Please.' -- Rob Pike
10595	root	1.387	%
10596	root	1.1	> What about: . scriptname
10597			> ------------------^ this is a dot!
10598
10599			Funny, it looks like a "p" to me.
10600	root	1.387	%
10601	root	1.1	A computer without Microsoft and IBM is like chocolate cake without
10602			ketchup and mustard
10603	root	1.387	%
10604	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Challange for perl `GURUS
10605
10606			vimal gajjar wrote:
10607			>
10608			> Hi there,
10609			> Here is a small challange. Is it possible to have a perl
10610			> code which takes e.g. three parameters as input. time, val1, val2. and
10611			> the name of the prog. is say challange.pl. Now if i execute
10612			> "challange.pl 10 5 2" this perl script wille consume
10613			> 5% of cpu
10614			> 2 Mb of RAM
10615			> for the period of 10 Seconds.
10616			>
10617			> can one of the gurus take this challange?
10618
10619			Examining the 5 copies of this post has consumed 5% of the
10620			brain power I allocate to reviewing c.l.p.m, about 10 seconds, and
10621			has caused the death of 2 million brain cells.
10622	root	1.387	%
10623	root	1.1	> >> /A:You can usually write the program faster than you can
10624			> >> dial/dl/hangup/install/read docs/fix it/fix the fix/.
10625			>
10626			> >s/usually/never/
10627			>
10628			> s/sometimes/never/
10629
10630			Cute. You embarrass yourself by your ignorance of perl.
10631	root	1.387	%
10632	root	1.1	:That's probably true, but I really can't speak to it. But, if there
10633			:were no *nix around, there'd be no Perl. Nor would there be a need for
10634			:Perl, IMO.
10635
10636			Gotta love them JCL and ini dot bat dot bad dot doo dah files.
10637
10638			TC
10639	root	1.387	%
10640	root	1.1	'cc:Mail is a wonderful application, as long as you don't want to read or send mail.'
10641	root	1.387	%
10642	root	1.1	shurik@iron.Te.NeT.UA - Alexandr Dubovikov at TeNeT Networking Centre
10643
10644			Hi guys!
10645
10646			How check socket, alive it or die ?
10647	root	1.387	%
10648	root	1.1	--> Questions not to ask on linux-kernel <--
10649
10650			Miscellaneous flame-wars:
10651			~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
10652			12) The gnome-kde debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
10653			13) The emacs-vi debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
10654			14) Porting linux to run under windows is not interesting.
10655			15) Whether a given intel CISC chip "is really RISC" is not interesting.
10656	root	1.387	%
10657	root	1.1	Subject: what a week!
10658			From: "C. Scott Ananian" <cananian@lcs.mit.edu>
10659			Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 03:13:23 -0400 (EDT)
10660
10661			unicode, boot-logos, GGI, STREAMS, the necessity of a short devel cycle
10662			and the instability of 2.0.x, "ifconfig stopped working", "you really do
10663			need to remove 'encaps'", Linus' tarball practices... it seems like we're
10664			running out of things to flame off on. Here's my humble contribution:
10665
10666			I'VE MADE A KEWL NEW CHARSET THAT I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD USE. IT HAS ALL
10667			THE LETTERS IN MY LOGIN MAPPED TO THE LOWEST 16 CHARACTERS SO WE CAN
10668			COMPRESS THINGS REAL GOOD AND THE LETTERS IN MY BROTHER B1FF'S NAME ARE
10669			ALL IN HIGH ASCII CUZ THAT'S WHERE LOSERS BELONG!!!2!!7
10670
10671			I ONLY USE EMACS AND I THINK VI SUX!!$231!!
10672
10673			GNOME RULES AND KDE IS DEMON-SPAWN BECAUSE IT IS NOT FREE.! !
10674
10675			WE NEED KGI IN THE KERNEL (NOT LIBGGI, NOT THE TERMINAL IMPROVEMENTS
10676			WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED) IN ORDER TO HAVE WAY KEWL BOOT LOGOS AND RUN MY
10677			BROTHER B1FF'S GAMES!!1!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!11!!!
10678
10679			I USE A BIG-ENDIAN MACHINE BECAUSE THEY RULE. LITTLE-ENDIAN MACHINES ARE
10680			EVIL. AND A PENTIUM IS A RISC PROCESSOR!!!
10681
10682			WE SHOULD PORT LINUX TO WINDOWS SO WE CAN USE ALL THE KEWL HARDWARE
10683			DRIVERS!!!!!@@#!
10684
10685			Did I miss any? ;-)
10686
10687			Please don't respond seriously to this email. It's a joke. A joke.
10688			Laugh. Please.
10689
10690			And then let's kill all the flaming threads, shall we?
10691			--Scott
10692	root	1.387	%
10693	root	1.1	> Well, /proc/kcore already reports its actual size...
10694
10695			And it isn't about to change at runtime either. That is the size of
10696			installed memory. I've yet to see a single person successfully insert or
10697			remove a SIMM/DIMM while a machine was running. If they did, and it was
10698			successful, the linux code will update the filesize. ;o)
10699	root	1.387	%
10700	root	1.1	Toby Heywood (toby@he-net.demon.co.uk) wrote:
10701			: This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
10702
10703			One of those 'M's stands for Mail.
10704
10705			This is not mail.
10706
10707			This is Usenet.
10708
10709			Please post only plain text like everyone else does.
10710	root	1.387	%
10711	root	1.1	------------ etienne.lorrain@ibm.net
10712			--- hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
10713			--- ide1: reset: success
10714			-----------> I like Linux !
10715	root	1.387	%
10716	root	1.1	> I have experienced people walking up to my console and saying "What
10717			> the hell does that mean" in sheer terror as the machine boots.
10718
10719			Tell them it's magic, and earn the respect of your colleagues. I always
10720			do.
10721	root	1.387	%
10722	root	1.1	++ Actually, I'm not at a loss for words. Here's one that's very appropriate:
10723			++ PLONK.
10724	root	1.387	%
10725	root	1.1	++ > SSI is not HTML.
10726			Re: Subraumfunk
10727
10728			Ja, ein Handy waere da praktisch. Die hoeheren Gebuehren rechnen sich,
10729			wenn man ueber die Grenzen des Sonnensystems hinaus telefonieren will.
10730
10731			Die Telekom wuerde da wieder mal erbarmungslos abzocken. Ich kann es
10732			mir schon vorstellen: SunSystem-Tarif, vielleicht auch einen
10733			InnerPlanets-Sondertarif, dann einen LocalGroupWeekend-Specialtarif,
10734			eine Supercluster-Zone und so weiter. Und wenn es auf der Venus
10735			schneit, telefonieren alle fuer die Haelfte.
10736	root	1.387	%
10737	root	1.1	> > Vergiss es. Du wirst nie und nimmer von Armando eine
10738			> > konkrete, verwertbare Antwort bekommen.
10739			>
10740			> Doch, man bekommt von mir sogar sehr viele Antworten.
10741
10742			Du hast gerade zwei Adjektive weggelassen.
10743	root	1.387	%
10744	root	1.1	++ Oh yeah. Show me an example of SSI used outside of HTML.
10745			Show me an HTML DTD mentioning SSI directives.
10746	root	1.387	%
10747	root	1.1	Namsuk Kim wrote:
10748			> Is there a way to convert a scalar data to Acii data format?
10749
10750			I am not familar with ACII. If you mean ASCII, then the question I have is
10751			- is the data in EBCDIC now?
10752
10753			Bill Jones
10754	root	1.387	%
10755	root	1.1	GNU/getopt.c:
10756
10757			#if defined (WIN32) && !defined (__CYGWIN32__)
10758			/* It's not Unix, really. See? Capital letters. */
10759			#include <windows.h>
10760			#define getpid() GetCurrentProcessId()
10761			#endif
10762	root	1.387	%
10763	root	1.1	Subject: IIS 4.0, PW32i316, CGI Programs
10764
10765			Perlis.dll does not pass command line arguments correctly via the web. That
10766			is, invoking the URL
10767
10768			http://www.myserver.com/myprogram.pl?Argument1&Argument2...&Argumentn
10769
10770			causes the myprogram.pl to execute, but @ARGV is empty.
10771	root	1.387	%
10772	root	1.1	"You need to use CGI."
10773			"I am using CGI, it's a CGI application!"
10774			"No, no, use CGI. The directive 'use'."
10775			"OK, so what directive do I use?"
10776			"No, no, you use use. Use CGI."
10777			"I am using CGI!"
10778
10779			Craig Berry - cberry@cinenet.net
10780	root	1.387	%
10781	root	1.1	> > Was haltet Ihr von Killfile-mailing-lists, dass sich die Leute mal
10782			> > kennenlernen koennen?
10783			>
10784	root	1.388	> Gute Idee ;-), wäre ich sofort dabei, datrifft man wahrscheinlich ne
10785	root	1.1	> Menge tolle Leute... ;-) und die wahren Freidenker.
10786
10787			Einige Freidenker sicher, aber auch etliche Denkfreie.
10788	root	1.387	%
10789	root	1.1	"I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big or
10790			professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones." -- Linus Torvalds 1991
10791	root	1.387	%
10792	root	1.1	If it's a floppy, it might be a copy.
10793			If it's a disk, you're also at risk.
10794			If it's a pirate, the vendors are irate.
10795			To avoid such frustration, try: Free Software Foundation.
10796	root	1.387	%
10797	root	1.1	From: David Woodhouse <Dave@imladris.demon.co.uk>
10798
10799			pcg@goof.com said:
10800			> It was much more than I usally get! It was _great_
10801
10802			Hehe - I know the feeling.
10803
10804			"It's broken."
10805			"What's wrong with it?."
10806			"I don't know - it just doesn't work."
10807			"Well what do you mean by 'it's broken'?"
10808			"It just doesn't work."
10809			"How can you _tell_ it's broken, for f***'s sake - what are the symptoms!?"
10810			"It gives an error message."
10811			"Would you care to tell me what it says?"
10812			"It says.... something about there being an error."
10813			"That's not very helpful. Tell me it word for word."
10814			"It says 'Unable to handle kernel NULL reference at something or other'"
10815			"That's not word for word. It said 'NULL pointer dereference.' Try again,
10816			letter for letter this time."
10817	root	1.387	%
10818	root	1.1	From: "Paul B. Henson" <henson@INTRANET.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
10819
10820			After installing Solaris 2.6 HW3/98, I discovered that /usr/bin/admintool
10821			had been installed mode 0777, world writable. Under the original release of
10822			2.6, the mode was 04555.
10823
10824			Sun has been notified of the problem. If you're running 2.6 HW3/98, you
10825			might want to verify your admintool hasn't been tampered with and fix the
10826			perms.
10827
10828			(Personally, I'd set them to 0000 ;). admintool? blech.)
10829	root	1.387	%
10830	root	1.1	From: verah@netscape.com (Vera Horiuchi)
10831			Subject: Re: Risp: drama (Re: Do It Yourself)
10832
10833			Americans ignorant of the rest of the world?
10834
10835			I must tell a favorite story here. A friend and I were purchasing a gift
10836			for another friend who lives in Canada. I was speculating out loud about
10837			how much duty our Canadian friend would have to pay.
10838
10839			The cashier said, "Oh, I'm sure Canadians don't have to pay any duty. We
10840			ship to Hawaii all the time, and _they_ don't have to pay duty." =:-0
10841	root	1.387	%
10842	root	1.388	>am besten ist z.Z. das Buch von Michael Neufeld. Wer aber Wissenslücken
10843			>verspürt (was keine Schande ist), sollte diese zu stopfen suchen und nicht
10844	root	1.1	>Zuflucht zu absolut hirnrissigen Theorien suchen.
10845
10846			Hirnrissig bist Du. Das es einen Zeittransfer aus der Zukunft zu den Nazis
10847			gab deckt sich mit dazu passenden Entschluesselungen bestimmter Bibelstellen
10848			und mit der dann tatsaechlichen notwendigen Geheimhaltung. Es deckt sich
10849			ueberdies damit, dass die Unterhaltung uns den Gedanken zunehmend nahelegt,
10850			also vorbereitet, und dass es bereits ein wissenschaftliches Experiment gab,
10851			bei dem ERST die Wirkung auftrat und DANN die Ursache. Die Zeitreise ist
10852			also Fakt. Und es ist sicher, dass Jemand per Zeitreise den Nazis helfen
10853			wollte. Gelegentliche Theorien, dass auch diese ausserirdische Hilfe gehabt
10854			haetten sollen nur davon ablenken, eine andere Erklaerung liefern. Das ist
10855			logisch, denn die Taeter sitzen ja irgendwo in unserer Zeit und moechten
10856			sicher nicht erkannt werden.
10857
10858			Du scheinst die simpelsten Grundzuege der Zeitlogik nicht verstehen zu wollen.
10859
10860			normarz@aol.com
10861	root	1.387	%
10862	root	1.1	>Oder anders gesagt:
10863	root	1.388	>Glaubst Du, Du könntest mit einem hochmodernen Maschinengewehr eine römische
10864	root	1.1	>Legion
10865			>schlagen?
10866
10867			Klar. Frage mal Cortez.
10868
10869			Bye
10870			Andreas
10871	root	1.387	%
10872	root	1.1	>Article 2B is a threat to anyone who uses a computer. I just wanted to
10873
10874			It may be a threat to any american using a computer. Fortunately, the U.S.
10875			justice does not yet apply outside the U.S.A.
10876
10877			I.a.W.: You're currently creating a lot of happy non-U.S. software
10878			companies.
10879
10880			Kind regards
10881			Henning
10882	root	1.387	%
10883	root	1.1	From: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>
10884			Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:14:11 -0700
10885			Subject: Re: driver for Creative Labs DVD kits
10886
10887			At least with the IDE DVD drive that I have, plugging it directly
10888			into an IDE port and using the regular Linux ide-cd driver works just fine
10889			for reading [...] CD and the [not] copy protected sections of the DVD's.
10890
10891			There is a protocol that the hardware decoder boards use to
10892			tell the DVD drive that they are a licensed implementation and should
10893			be allowed to read the copy protected sectors as well. I have been
10894			told that this protocol can be done entirely in software with a
10895			standard IDE port. Hopefully, somebody will reverse engineer this and
10896			make it a demand loaded kernel module. (Seriously, there is a lot
10897			that you are allowed to do with copyrighted material that this sort of
10898			hardware restriction prevents, and there are other important political
10899			issues involved relating to your rights to do as you please with the
10900			computer equipment that you bought and paid for.)
10901	root	1.387	%
10902	root	1.1	Where do you want to go today?
10903			We might support that sometime next year.
10904			-=- Microsoft
10905			(But I doubt it.)
10906			-=- Me
10907			-=- James Mastros
10908	root	1.387	%
10909	root	1.1	Hello570 <hello570@aol.com> wrote:
10910			> I tried printing a line to a file using both of the
10911			> following methods, but the output was split into two
10912			>lines.
10913
10914			If you don't want newlines in the middle of your string, then don't
10915			put newlines in the middle of your string.
10916	root	1.387	%
10917	root	1.1	http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/Dean_Roehrich/subjects.post
10918	root	1.387	%
10919	root	1.1	Einstein himself said that God doesn't roll dice. But he was wrong. And
10920			in fact, anyone who has played role-playing games knows that God
10921			probably had to roll quite a few dice to come up with a character like
10922			Einstein. -- Larry Wall
10923	root	1.387	%
10924	root	1.1	From: Ragnar Hojland Espinosa <root@lightside.ddns.org>
10925
10926			My $0.02 Euros on internationalization? I'm in Spain and my keyboard is
10927			mosty US mapped because the Spanish map is really awkward for programming.
10928			Computers were designed to be funcional, not politically (or locally)
10929			correct (hm, I don't think HAL ever spoke Russian). This "computers are easy
10930			for all" GUI related trend has done a lot of money, and lot of damage; at
10931			least command line OSes forced the user to actually learn something and
10932			absorb information. The user assumed so, so he did. Now he doesn't, and
10933			it's not all his fault.
10934
10935			The WWW is full of useless (and ugly) graphics, of useless links to links to
10936			pages with links to links which usually end up in a huge links page. Of
10937			course, there are some jewels.. but they should be majority! It's
10938			understandable, when the tools and languages focus more on aspect that in
10939			content.
10940
10941			Usenet is worse than ever, the interesting places have been ruined by
10942			spammers, c00l hak3rz, and more and more people asking (or demanding) for
10943			others doing their homework.. at least some time ago they were willing to
10944			learn (or pay for it;)
10945
10946			IRC.. heh. The few times I've been on funet almost all I found is the same
10947			people in the above paragraph. And I do know some of them even run scripts
10948			to try denial of service or other destructive attacks on people they see,
10949			just for fun or to get the op.
10950
10951			Email. Someone selling an "incredible program that allows you to bypass
10952			your ISP mail server, for only $89" (thats right, a smtp server). No OS
10953			mentioned, I somehow can guess which. And that stupid thing of sending
10954			mail to people in RTF and HTML format.. I'm gonna answer them in LaTeX.
10955
10956			Internet, your ilimited junk yard.
10957
10958			Using computers would make me real sad if it wasn't for UNIX and, of
10959			course, Linux and Linux people.
10960	root	1.387	%
10961	root	1.1	... WNT == ++VMS . Literally. Dave Cutler created VMS,
10962			then he rewrote it as WNT.
10963
10964			Ever used VMS? It's a step above DOS. Barely.
10965			--
10966			Clark O. Morgan cmorgan@aracnet.com
10967	root	1.387	%
10968	root	1.1	>Subject: If "=~" means match what is doesn't match?
10969
10970			I heard that a friend of a friend might have once been told about a
10971			rumor that this information can be found in perlop, right next to
10972			where =~ is documented. (It's !~)
10973
10974			I agree with Tom's assessment that the fall of modern man will be
10975			preceded by the de-evolution of communications to the days of oral
10976			tradition.
10977	root	1.387	%
10978	root	1.1	"Windows 95, the most installed system in the world,
10979			I know, I've done it 5 or 6 times myself"
10980	root	1.387	%
10981	root	1.1	The statistics programming language S, from AT&T, combines lazy
10982			evaluation with imperative programming. A nightmare.
10983	root	1.387	%
10984	root	1.1	"In 1965, as part of a research and development project for the
10985			U.S. Army, engineers at TRW Corp developed a software program
10986			called Generalized Information Retrieval Lanaguage and System."
10987			Or GIRLS for short.
10988	root	1.387	%
10989	root	1.1	Wissen bremst die Meinungsbildung voll aus.
10990	root	1.387	%
10991	root	1.1	I have an idea: Anybody who posts an URGENT! or EMERGENCY! request should
10992			post the circumstances behind the urgency. "I was having sex with my
10993			mistress in the server room and I knocked the Linux box over and the hard
10994			drive crashed and so I've reinstalled everything but I still can't get
10995			5_004_03 to build!"
10996
10997			This would inspire me to action far more than the implied subtext of "I
10998			have no patience."
10999
11000			xoxo,
11001			Andy
11002	root	1.387	%
11003	root	1.1	> I have Perl5 running on my pc.
11004			> and also front page98 and microsoft personal web server runnig.
11005			We all have our cross to bear.
11006	root	1.387	%
11007	root	1.1	(THIS IS LONG, YOU MAY WANT TO SKIP)
11008
11009			From: mjd@plover.com (Mark-Jason Dominus)
11010			Date: 09 Nov 1995 02:57:30 GMT
11011			Subject: Re: system() question
11012
11013			There are a lot of reasons, many of which get repeated over and
11014			over again, many of which don't. Some of the reasons you hear a lot
11015			are: Questions are incoherently phrased. Questions have the form 'My
11016			code doesn't work' and don't include the code. Questions include the
11017			code, and it's 200 lines long, and comp.lang.perl is not a debugging
11018			service. Nobody knows the answer to the question. The question is so
11019			badly punctuated that nobody can bear to read it. Questions aer
11020			written by a non-native speaker of English and the native speakers who
11021			are trying to understand it can't. (That's a shame, but it does
11022			happen. I often wish that these people would post in their native
11023			languages. I'd love to see more discussion in languages other than
11024			English. Some Dutch guy tried posting all his comp.lang.c articles in
11025			Dutch a few years ago, and all the Americans flamed him. How
11026			humiliating for me!)
11027
11028			Apart from these oft-mentioned reasons are many others that are
11029			not so often discussed, because anyone who tries to bring them up gets
11030			flamed. But it's the truth: I know the reason I don't answer more
11031			questions is because so many of them questions are so damn stupid.
11032			They're stupid in a lot of different ways, but they're still stupid.
11033			I don't want to suggest that that's why your questions go unanswered.
11034			I don't know what you're asking. No doubt the reason your questions
11035			go unanswered is because they're so deep and interesting that nobody
11036			really knows the answer.
11037
11038			The most common stupid question is the one from someone who has
11039			some high-level problem that they need solved. They have an idea that
11040			they'd like to do it in perl, and they don't really know perl. So
11041			instead of learning perl, they post to comp.lang.perl.misc.
11042
11043			Now don't get me wrong. I don't have any problems answering the
11044			questions of someone who's trying to learn perl. I love THOSE
11045			qusetions. But these people don't seem to be asking useful questions
11046			for that.
11047
11048			Today, for example, I saw a question from a guy who wants to get a
11049			list of hostnames out of nslookup. `How do I do that?' he says. And
11050			it's hard to know what to make of that. What does he mean? Does he
11051			not know how to open a pipe? Is his en' command failing? What's
11052			going on here? I can't give a useful answer without understanding the
11053			problem. Having your en' fail is a problem. Wanting to list
11054			hostnames is not a problem; it's a desire.
11055
11056			Here are some similar questions that would have made more sense to me:
11057
11058			1. `I'm a lazy asshole and I can't be bothered to learn to
11059			program myself, but I know if I post here you'll give me
11060			something for free.''
11061
11062			(OK, fair enough. At least I can send him a rate card.)
11063
11064			2. `I'm trying to use en' to talk to nslookup, but...
11065			...here's my code; what's wrong?''
11066
11067			(Good question.)
11068
11069			3. `I know perl has a `System' command for running programs,
11070			but I can't see how to get my commands into nslookup
11071			once I have run it.''
11072			(Good question.)
11073
11074			4. `I'm trying to use `Getprotobynumber' to talk to nslookup...''
11075
11076			(Good question.)
11077
11078			See, I'm not just biting people's heads off, here. #4 is a good
11079			question, because it gives me something to work with. OK, he has a
11080			very weird idea about interprocess communication, but that's
11081			ignorance, and that's what we're here to correct. He doesn't know
11082			about en'; I can refer him to the manual.
11083
11084			Here's another example: Some guy wants to assemble a list of email
11085			addresses . `How do I do that?'' he wants to know. Well, duh. Get a
11086			big pad of paper and read news for a couple days and write down all
11087			the addresses you see. Problem solved. What's it doing in
11088			comp.lang.perl?
11089			Oh, you wanted to do it in perl. Well, I guess I'd open a socket
11090			to the NNTP server and send it some XHDR commands for the `From'
11091			lines. But that's not Perl; you could do that in any language. I
11092			could do it in Bourne Shell for you if I'm allowed to use a little
11093			external thingie to handle the socket parts for me. What's it doing
11094			in comp.lang.perl?
11095
11096			Oh, you wanted us to write the program for you? Wait, let me send
11097			you my rate card.
11098
11099			Someone posted yesterday asking how to get the data from a file where
11100			the start and end of the data is marked by keywords. Same thing going on
11101			here. `Well, here's how you solve your problem: First you go take an
11102			introductory class in programming and learn to write programs in some
11103			language. Then you go to the bookstore and buy this book by Wall and
11104			Schwartz, it's really good. Read the book carefully and try out the
11105			examples. Then if you still have general questions like `How do I do this'
11106			instead of thought that this code would do X but instead it does Y' you hire
11107			a professional to write your program for you. Or you could just skip right
11108			to step 3. Want my rate card?''
11109
11110			The worst stupid questions are the ones that come from people who
11111			have no business asking them. The most perfect example of this that I
11112			could have imagined was in comp.unix.questions a couple of years ago.
11113			Some guy came and asked how you could tell if a file is a hard link.
11114			My jaw flapped open and it's stayed open since then. I couldn't have
11115			been any more stumped if he'd asked why Bodhidharma came from the
11116			West. What do you say to this guy? Do you tell him the truth, that
11117			all files are hard links, that even symbolic links are hard links?
11118			He's not going to understand you; you might as well keep your mouth
11119			shut. Do you tell him the truth, that the answer won't do him any
11120			good because he doesn't know what a hard link is, so why did he bother
11121			asking in the first place? No, that'll just make him mad. I followed
11122			that message for the next couple weeks, and nobody said anything.
11123			What could you say? The guy had no business asking the question and
11124			no use for the answer. Maybe the right answer would have been to cut
11125			off his finger or something. I dunno.
11126
11127			Some questions get ignored because they're boring. Someone asked
11128			today how to compare two variables (I assumme he means the contents of
11129			those variables) to see if they're exactly the same. You've gotta be
11130			in an awfully good mood to take the time to answer that. Maybe
11131			someone will. Maybe I will.
11132
11133			If I answer that one today, maybe he'll be back tomorrow asking
11134			how to check to see if two variables contain different values. Maybe
11135			I won't. What I find incredible is that if you tell these people to
11136			go read the manual and come back in two weeks, you sometimes get
11137			jumped on for not being helpful to beginners. Bah. If everyone told
11138			these people to go read the manual, they'd eventually figure out that
11139			that's what you have to do ,and then I wouldn't have to spend so much
11140			of my life dealing with incompetent programmers.
11141
11142			Some questions are logically nonsensical because the querent
11143			thinks they know more than they do. A lot of these have the form
11144			`How do I use X to accomplish Y?'' There's nothing wrong with this,
11145			except that sometimes X is a chocolate-covered banana and Y is the
11146			integration of European currency systems. I always get stuck on
11147			these, probably because I can't get rid of the idea that the person
11148			really has a good reason for wanting to use X. I know a half-dozen
11149			easy simple ways to accomplish Y, but I can't imagine what X has to do
11150			with it. This is a problem for me in my day job, too. Clients are
11151			always saying to me `We want to use product X to do multimedia
11152			development on the world-wide web,'' and all I can think is `Well,
11153			gee, what would you want to go and do that for?'' Sometimes it turns
11154			out that they want to do it because they want to impress the
11155			manufacturers of X, and I don't work on those jobs.
11156
11157			The flip side of this is a questions like `I want to accomplish
11158			X, but I don't want to use Y. What can I use instead?'' Which,
11159			again, is sometimes reasonable, and then sometimes X is closing a
11160			filehandle and Y is the `Close' function.
11161
11162			The questions I like the best are the ones that go like this:
11163
11164			`I want to accomplish X.
11165
11166			I thought that the following code fragment would do it:
11167
11168			...
11169
11170			But instead it does Y.
11171
11172			Why is that?''
11173
11174			This one is also pretty good:
11175
11176			`I want to accomplish X.
11177			I thought I might be able to use facility Y.
11178
11179			But Y doesn't seem like it's quite right,
11180			because of Z.
11181
11182			What should I use instead of Y, or how can I overcome Z?''
11183
11184			When I ignore these, it's usually because I don't know the answer.
11185			There were an awful lot of them today. It makes me very happy.
11186
11187
11188			There you go; a 160-line dissertation on why questions go unanswered.
11189			Now don't let me hear you saying nobody ever answers your questions.
11190
11191			--
11192			Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
11193			The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
11194	root	1.387	%
11195	root	1.1	>> BTW, would it be easier to cope with international text using Python?
11196			>Sigh... you're breaking my heart. Ask Jack Jansen, he probably knows.
11197
11198			If I were really evel, I would point out that the newest TCL (8.1) has
11199			support for international character sets and Unicode. But then, mentioning
11200			TCL in this newsfroup would be really bad. So, of course, I don't do that.
11201
11202			Ups. I'm so sorry ... ;-)
11203
11204			bye, Georg
11205	root	1.387	%
11206	root	1.1	I personally do not believe in object orientation as a security model
11207			(nor as a general programming paradigm), but feel free to try to
11208			convince me.
11209
11210			[ Or maybe I confuse you with somebody else and some other posting ]
11211
11212			Linus
11213	root	1.387	%
11214	root	1.1	++ how can i strip new lines out at var.
11215			++
11216
11217			Removing new lines is very tricky, as the manual tells you so. Ignore the
11218			complicated things in the manual, and put in this neat little trick:
11219
11220	root	1.85	$var=join+q,,,grep{ord$[[qq$\137$]]<10 or+10<ord}split+q,,,$var;
11221	root	1.1
11222			If you're old enough not to read the manual, you won't have a problem
11223			understanding the above line.
11224
11225			Abigail
11226	root	1.387	%
11227	root	1.1	I fixed the problem by mounting the SCO volume on the SunOS box, and since
11228			1995 the problem has gone away together with the SCO machine.
11229	root	1.387	%
11230	root	1.1	++ Hi Does anybody know how to upload many graphic files at the push of a
11231			++ button?
11232			Yes.
11233
11234			++ 100 pictures or so?
11235			Yes.
11236
11237			++ Can I do it in Perl?
11238			Yes.
11239
11240			Your question isn't Perl specific. Please ask in the relevant
11241			newsgroup. alt.button.play
11242
11243			Abigail
11244	root	1.387	%
11245	root	1.1	perly gates - The way to perl; Enter hackerdom.
11246
11247			perly Gates - Contradictio in Terminis.
11248
11249			Martien
11250	root	1.387	%
11251	root	1.388	Ren hat weder von Sinnhaftigkeit noch von Kausalität geschrieben, sondern
11252			nur von Logik. Logik und Kausalität sind in unserem (normalen) Denken zwar
11253			eng miteinander verknüpft, sind aber nicht dasselbe. Sinn ist hingegen noch
11254			etwas Drittes und ganz verschiedenes! "Sinn" bedeutet mindestens, daß eine
11255	root	1.1	Sache eine gewisse Richtung hat, wie in "Uhrzeigersinn". Meistens bedeutet
11256	root	1.388	Sinn aber, daß eine Sache einen bestimmten Zweck erfüllt. Auch darf man
11257			nicht "verursachen" mit "begründen" verwechseln, weil die beiden
11258			unterschiedlich sind. Die Existenz muß auch keinen Sinn haben, um eine
11259			Ursache zu haben. Das sind zwei völlig voneinander unabhängige Sachen. Die
11260	root	1.1	Existenz hat einen Sinn, also eine Richtung, wenn wir unserer Existenz eine
11261	root	1.388	Richtung geben. Dieser Sinn kann auf etwas abzielen, was außerhalb unserer
11262			selbst steht, muß aber nicht... Sie kann auch einen Sinn haben, der schon da
11263	root	1.1	war, bevor wir uns danach ausgerichtet haben - von all dem schreibt Ren aber
11264			nicht. ;)
11265
11266	root	1.388	Worauf Ren wohl hinaus wollte, ist, daß wenn die Logik des begrenzten Raumes
11267			nicht gilt, daß dann die Logik schlechthin hinfällig wird und so jedes Sein
11268			fragwürdig wird. Das ist aber nicht der Fall, da die Logik, die er von den
11269	root	1.1	Grenzen des Raumes aufstellt, gar keine wirkliche Logik ist, sondern nur die
11270			Grenzen des menschlichen Verstandes zeigt. Er kann sich nicht vorstellen,
11271	root	1.388	daß außerhalb der Grenzen des Raumes "Nichts" ist, weil man sich als Mensch
11272	root	1.1	das Nichts nicht vorstellen kann.
11273
11274	root	1.388	Darüber hinaus meinte er, daß die "Existenz unlogisch" würde. Dieser Satz
11275			ist vollkommen unverständlich. Denn entweder ist etwas, oder es ist nicht.
11276	root	1.1	Das ist auch schon die ganze Logik einer Existenz. (Aristoteles: Satz vom
11277	root	1.388	ausgeschlossenen Dritten) Unlogisch wäre, wenn etwas ist, das nicht ist oder
11278	root	1.1	wenn etwas nicht ist, das ist.
11279
11280	root	1.388	Von der Unfähigkeit des Menschen, sich einen unbegrenzten aber endlichen
11281	root	1.1	Raum (oder wie auch immer der Weltraum nun aussieht) vorzustellen auf die
11282	root	1.388	"Unlogik der Existenz" zu schließen, ist aber wohl nicht ganz möglich, zumal
11283			eine Existenz nicht unlogisch sein kann. Was sollte das auch heißen? Daher
11284	root	1.1	ist das Problem, das Ren aufwirft, nur ein Scheinproblem. Die Existenz an
11285	root	1.388	sich wird nicht in Frage gestellt dadurch, daß man sich etwas - egal was -
11286	root	1.1	nicht vorstellen kann. Er verwechselt die Begriffe "unlogisch" und
11287			"unvorstellbar".
11288
11289			Thomas.Decker@lrz.uni-muenchen.de
11290	root	1.387	%
11291	root	1.1	Marcel Richter wrote:
11292			> Marcel Richter - IQ: 3538327
11293			^^^
11294			fehlt da nicht irgendwo ein Komma.... =?-)
11295	root	1.387	%
11296	root	1.1	The X server has to be the biggest program I've ever seen that doesn't
11297			do anything for you. --Ken Thompson
11298	root	1.387	%
11299	root	1.1	linux-2.1.92/fs/autofs/root.c:
11300			printk("autofs: trying to recover, but prepare for Armageddon\n");
11301	root	1.387	%
11302	root	1.1	>>Vincent DiPietro, the discoverer of the face on mars, has thrown in
11303			>>the towel, and said that the face on mars is a pile of rocks.
11304			>Was sollte es denn sonst sein?
11305
11306			An artificial pile of rocks.
11307	root	1.387	%
11308	root	1.1	> ps: mal nebenbei: eine unbekannte variable beim analysieren des
11309			> marsgesichtes ist es, dass mensch gar nicht weiss, wie die lebende,
11310			> gedachte oder sonstige vorlage eigentlich aussieht. dazu kommt natuerlich
11311			> noch das fehlende wissen um die intention des "kuenstlers", ob er
11312			> beispielsweise nur aspekte bzw. partien eines gesichtes integrieren wollte
11313			> - und natuerlich, ob es ueberhaupt kunst ist:)
11314
11315			Ganz genau. Und das Matterhorn ist eine palaeoimpressionistische Studie des
11316			Geruchsorgans der Rasse der Ciabattanimalier. Aber das wussten hier
11317			sicherlich schon alle. Das ganze Universum ist ausserdem eigentlich nur ein
11318			grosser Flipperautomat.
11319
11320			Christoph Schulte Moenting - ubec@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
11321	root	1.387	%
11322	root	1.1	> Kris Weilemann schrieb
11323			>
11324			> >MIR ging es neulich aehnlich. Ich wurde von Ausserirdischen entfuehrt.
11325			> >Ich wurde eingesperrt in einem dunklem Raum mit langen Sitzreihen und mit
11326			> >einer Popcorn-artigen Substanz gefuettert. Nach 2 Stunden war alles
11327			> >vorbei. Einen Tag spaeter stellte ich fest, dass mir 18 Mark im
11328			> >Geldbeutel fehlten. Ist das nicht krass? -Kris.
11329	root	1.387	%
11330	root	1.388	... Jazz ist nicht nur das erfolgreichste, sondern auch das einzige originäre Kunstgenre,
11331			daß die USA jemals hervorgebracht haben.
11332	root	1.1
11333			"Apropos Musik", HR2 am 16.4.98
11334	root	1.387	%
11335	root	1.1	http://www.rsw.com/
11336
11337			The Unix shell as a 4GL
11338
11339			Unix provides hundreds of programs that can be piped together to easily
11340			perform almost any function imaginable. Nothing comes close to providing the
11341			functions that come standard with Unix. Programs and philosophies carried
11342			over from other systems put walls between the user and Unix, and the power
11343			of Unix is thrown away. The shell, extended with a few relational operators,
11344			is the fourth generation database scripting language most appropriate to the
11345			Unix environment.
11346	root	1.387	%
11347	root	1.1	Perl is incredibly difficult to parse. For example, what's the difference
11348			between these:
11349
11350			time /3 ;#/; print "hello";
11351			sin /3 ;#/; print "goodbye";
11352
11353			Right. The first one is time divided by 3, and the print is in a comment.
11354			The second one is the sin of the result of a regular expression match for "3
11355			;#", and the print gets executed!
11356
11357			There's no pure BNF in the world that'll handle that. And remember, with
11358			"use" and prototypes available, whether you parse something like "sin" or
11359			"time" depends on its definition in some other file, somewhere in the galaxy
11360			(or even decided by Perl code in a BEGIN block, that evals a prototype!).
11361
11362			Which led Larry to say at one point: "the only thing that can parse Perl is
11363			'perl'".
11364
11365			--
11366			Randal L. Schwartz
11367	root	1.387	%
11368	root	1.1	Ronald J Kimball <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu> writes:
11369
11370			> Pascal AMRAM wrote:
11371			> > Subject: MSEXCHANGE / OUTLOOK
11372			>
11373			> So here I am trying to figure out what an M sex change is....
11374
11375			It's obviously the opposite of an F sex change. HTH.
11376
11377			--
11378			Jonathan Feinberg jdf@pobox.com Sunny Brooklyn, NY
11379	root	1.387	%
11380	root	1.1	The management (my cats) made me say this.
11381	root	1.387	%
11382	root	1.1	uae-0.6.9/custom.c:800:
11383			write_log ("Program is torturing BPLCON1.\n");
11384	root	1.387	%
11385	root	1.1	uae-0.6.9/src/memory.c:363
11386			write_log ("Your Amiga program just did something terribly stupid\n");
11387	root	1.387	%
11388	root	1.1	Closures make sense in any programming language where you
11389			can have the return value of a function be itself a
11390			function, as you can in Perl. Note that some languages
11391			provide anonymous functions but are not capable of
11392			providing proper closures; the Python language, for
11393			example.
11394	root	1.387	%
11395	root	1.1	When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to
11396			resemble a nail.
11397	root	1.387	%
11398	root	1.1	> but all I get are 501 errors, method not supported. I am not 100% sure what
11399			> I did wrong.
11400
11401			What you did wrong was post a microsoft server question to a perl
11402			newsgroup.
11403	root	1.387	%
11404	root	1.1	I am trying to learn Perl on my Windows 97 system. In particular...
11405	root	1.387	%
11406	root	1.388	>Es kamen Außerirdische, die Pyramiden bauten und andere Wunder
11407			>vollbrachten. Dafür wurden sie vergöttert. Diese außerirdischen bauten dann
11408	root	1.1	>wahrscheinlich auch die Cydonia Region.
11409
11410			Etwa zehnmal zu oft 'Stargate' gesehen, was?
11411	root	1.387	%
11412	root	1.388	>Die Menschheit kämpft seit Millionen von Jahren gegeneinander.
11413	root	1.1
11414	root	1.388	Welche Hälfte ist denn da die grössere? :o)
11415	root	1.387	%
11416	root	1.1	...am still rebuilding after being hit with a clock changing virus it reset
11417			my clock to 2039 unfortunately for me my OS is beta 98 needless to say it
11418			expired instantly!!!
11419	root	1.387	%
11420	root	1.1	From: Per Bothner <bothner@cygnus.com>
11421			To: Pal Engstad <engstad@hunt.inmet.com>
11422
11423			> Linus Torvalds requires that all code in the source is using a tab
11424			> length of 8 spaces, and he also states that you are a bad programmer
11425			> if you write code with more than 3 indentation levels.
11426
11427			I didn't know that Linus Torvalds has done research on programming styles.
11428			He much have, since why else would you have the audacity quote him as
11429			an authority, on a list where there are dozens of people with more
11430			than double Linus's programming experience?
11431
11432			> This has caused the code to be fairly easy to read and maintainance is
11433			> pretty straight forward.
11434
11435			Irrelevant - a kernel is a lot simpler than an optimizing compiler,
11436			in terms of complexity of algorithms and data structures.
11437	root	1.387	%
11438	root	1.1	Nach der Diskussion muss ich akzeptieren, dass die juengst erfolgte
11439			Erdbeschleunigung von - 0,6 auf - 0,4 Millisekunden kein zwingender Beweis
11440			fuer einen Permanentantrieb ist. Aber: In letzter Zeit kommt es bei mir immer
11441			wieder vor, dass ich Dinge einfach weiss. Selbst wenn ich sie nicht begruenden
11442			kann. Ich weiss trotzdem dass sie stimmen muessen und der Antrieb existiert.
11443			Mit der Zeit findet sich dann auch die Begruendung.
11444	root	1.387	%
11445	root	1.1	Wir suchen neue AussenMitarbeiterInnen... (S.Pernar@Link-Goe)
11446	root	1.387	%
11447	root	1.1	hyperltext (hy'perl-text), n. double-quotish-interpolated hypertext markup:
11448			Example:
11449			print qq[[<LI><A HREF="$self->[[url]]">@[[[ucfirst $self->[[title]]]]]</A>\n]];
11450	root	1.387	%
11451	root	1.1	liperlsuction: What happens to any script longer than 10 lines once
11452			Randal gets his hands on it
11453	root	1.387	%
11454	root	1.1	Uperl Volta - country where perl programmers control the electricity.
11455	root	1.387	%
11456	root	1.1	> Anybody successfully installed the win32 version of Perl?
11457
11458			No! Millions of people don't use perl on win32 machines. You may be the
11459			first if you get it working.
11460	root	1.387	%
11461	root	1.1	> Macintosh.
11462			> Think different.
11463
11464			Think Again.
11465	root	1.387	%
11466	root	1.1	Bill.Cilnton@dyselxia.com
11467	root	1.387	%
11468	root	1.1	tsatan@hotmail.com writes:
11469			> Why does perl have the "push" and "unshift" functions? ...
11470			> push @nums, 4; is the same as @nums = (@nums, 4);
11471
11472			What do you want, Scheme? ;)
11473	root	1.387	%
11474	root	1.1	# There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'.
11475			# It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
11476	root	1.387	%
11477	root	1.1	\| I am returning this otherwise good typing paper to you because
11478			\| someone has printed gibberish all over it and put your name at the
11479			\| top.
11480	root	1.387	%
11481	root	1.1	I had a student ask about the UN9 operating system. I didn't understabd what
11482			he was talking about so he wrote UNIX on the board.
11483	root	1.387	%
11484	root	1.1	On 1 Apr 98 17:34:23 GMT, Schulung7 wrote:
11485			^^^^^^^^^
11486			>Was haltet ihr vom UFO-Absturz in Rosswell?
11487
11488			Nichts. Und jetzt geh woanders spielen.
11489	root	1.387	%
11490	root	1.1	>Kann man hier irgendwie mal die UFOs reinbringen, um die es in dieser NG
11491			>gehen soll?
11492
11493	root	1.388	Nein, der Datentyp wäre inkompatibel. UFOs sind per Definitionem
11494	root	1.1	materielle Objekte (obwohl das zur Zeit fraglich ist ;-), die sich in
11495			diesem Medium nicht austauschen lassen.
11496	root	1.387	%
11497	root	1.1	Wer redet hier denn von der "Hui Hui"? Ich sprach von "Hui! Hui!".
11498	root	1.387	%
11499	root	1.388	>> nein...ist kein Sender. Eine taiwanesische Sekte hat behauptet, daß am
11500			>> 25.3. auf allen TVs der Welt Gott auf Kanal 18 erscheinen würde.
11501	root	1.1	>> Ist natuerlich nicht eingetreten.
11502			>
11503			>Aber unsere Haus-Sat-Anlage geht seither nicht mehr.
11504
11505			Ein Zeichen! Er hat uns ein Zeichen gegeben! Zieht alle euren linken
11506			Schuh aus!
11507	root	1.387	%
11508	root	1.1	>Klingt nach Erdstillstand.
11509
11510	root	1.388	Ich bin entsetzt. Man hat hoffentlich sofort Wiederbedrehungsmaßnahmen
11511	root	1.1	eingeleitet?
11512	root	1.387	%
11513	root	1.1	Mars Global Surveyor Imaging Schedule
11514
11515
11516			First opportunity
11517			Approximate
11518			Orbit Internet
11519			Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11520
11521			4-3-98 09:58/1:58 a.m. 216 Viking Lander 1 April 6
11522			4-3-98 21:37/1:37 p.m. 217 Viking Lander 2 April 7
11523			4-4-98 09:16/1:16 a.m. 218 Mars Pathfinder April 7
11524			4-5-98 08:33/12:33 a.m. 220 Cydonia April 6 (mid-a.m.)
11525
11526			Second opportunity
11527			Approximate
11528			Orbit Internet
11529			Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11530
11531			4-12-98 15:23/ 8:23 a.m. 235 Viking Lander 1 April 14
11532			4-13-98 03:01/ 8:01 p.m. 236 Viking Lander 2 April 15
11533			4-13-98 14:40/ 7:40 a.m. 237 Mars Pathfinder April 15
11534			4-14-98 13:57/ 6:57 a.m. 239 Cydonia April 14 (mid-p.m.)
11535
11536			Third opportunity
11537			Approximate
11538			Orbit Internet
11539			Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11540
11541			4-21-98 20:45/1:45 p.m. 254 Viking Lander 1 April 23
11542			4-22-98 08:23/1:23 a.m. 255 Viking Lander 2 April 24
11543			4-22-98 20:02/1:02 p.m. 256 Mars Pathfinder April 24
11544			4-23-98 19:18/12:18 p.m. 258 Cydonia April 24 (mid-a.m.)
11545
11546	root	1.387	%
11547	root	1.1	> >2. Der Menschheit ist durch Inzucht entstanden. Laut biologischem
11548	root	1.388	> >Wissen, unwahrscheinlich, da Mutation und Mißbildungen auftreten
11549			> >würden.
11550	root	1.1	>
11551			> Vermutung: Das ist auch aufgetreten. Siehe levitische "Gesetze" zur
11552			> "Behandlung" von "Aussatz" insb. im 3. "Mose". Die hatten schon Probleme.
11553			Sag mal, bei Dir piepts wohl nicht mehr richtig! Aussatz, heute besser
11554			unter dem Namen Lepra bekannt, ist keine Erbkrankheit. Es ist eine
11555			(heute heilbare) Infektionskrankheit, verursacht durch Bakterien.
11556			Also nichts von Inzucht, wie Du das in Deinem latenten Rassenwahn
11557			implizierst.
11558	root	1.387	%
11559	root	1.1	> You might please start up with reading more than one sentence - a skill
11560			> quite familiar in Europe, but as it seems not in the USA.
11561	root	1.387	%
11562	root	1.1	Yup. Instead of crashing Xservers, now you have crashing kernels.
11563			Big improvement.
11564	root	1.387	%
11565	root	1.1	-- "Hey look, this new card is for windows and only $xx!"
11566			-- "Yes, but it's braindead and will hurt your performance. Take that one
11567			over there. Besides, it's not an ope.."
11568			-- "Why that one?"
11569			-- "Because it's better, sinc.."
11570			-- "But I can do the same with this one, it's cheaper, and its for windows!"
11571	root	1.387	%
11572	root	1.1	In der Klinik, in der ich mal arbeiten musste, hatten wir einen echten
11573			Koenig Ludwig II und mindestens fuenf Stueck Jesus - sowas gibts halt,
11574			wenn Du verstehst, was ich meine.
11575	root	1.387	%
11576	root	1.1	> Hast Du mal einen Stein beobachtet, der eine Unzahl komplexer
11577			> Vorgaenge paresentiert, einschliesslich der Hervorbringung
11578			> etlicher Lebensformen?
11579
11580			Jepp. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "zahlreich".
11581
11582			> Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der sich mal eben
11583			> "verwandelt", und auf dem dann lauter Wesen rumkrabbeln,
11584			> die aus ihm selbst entsprungen sind?
11585
11586			Klar doch. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "lauter".
11587
11588			> Ueberspitzt: Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der
11589			> ploetzlich zum Lebewesen wird und Dich fragt, wer oder was
11590			> er eigentlich ist?
11591
11592	root	1.388	Tja, da hören die Übereinstimmungen auf. Ich dachte Du meinst
11593	root	1.1	Erwin Stein. Den kenne ich. Der hat zwei Kinder. Die krabbeln
11594	root	1.388	ab und zu auf ihm herum. Der ist aber nicht plötzlich zum Le-
11595	root	1.1	bewesen geworden, sondern den gibt es nun schon ein wenig
11596	root	1.388	länger. Und er hat mich auch noch nie gefragt, wer oder was
11597	root	1.1	er eigentlich ist. Zumindest nicht in einem Zustand, den man
11598	root	1.388	als "normal" bezeichnen könnte. So wird das anscheinend nix.
11599	root	1.1	Ciao
11600			Stefan
11601	root	1.387	%
11602	root	1.1	"These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After
11603			unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including
11604			all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer."
11605			(http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/pc99.htm)
11606	root	1.387	%
11607	root	1.1	Video cards have write-only registers. (of course that is bad design) Let's
11608			say that register 13 is write-only, as is common. It holds an index that
11609			determines what register 69 (also write-only) actually changes. If you write
11610			to register 13 while the accelerator is active, you lock the PCI bus. You
11611			can't determine if the accelerator is active without reading from register
11612			42, but you can't interpret the contents of that register correctly without
11613			knowing what the last accelerator command was. Reading from register 13 gets
11614			you some useless (unrelated) info and _also_ toggles the accelerator on and
11615			off.
11616	root	1.387	%
11617	root	1.1	Join the Army,
11618			Meet interesting people,
11619			Kill them.
11620	root	1.387	%
11621	root	1.1	> Wie entsteht Materie? Ich koennte mir vorstellen, dass Energie in Materie
11622			> umwandelbar ist.
11623
11624			E=m*c^2 (Schon mal gehoert?) (Schon mal verstanden??)
11625	root	1.387	%
11626	root	1.388	>nach der die Pygmäen geheime UFO-Basen in ausgehöhlten Baumstämmen
11627	root	1.1	>unterhalten (Vorsicht: das war ein Witz :-) ).
11628	root	1.387	%
11629	root	1.1	> (Bernhard Nahrgang) wrote:
11630			>
11631			> >> Logische Annahme: Die Erde waechst entweder kontinuierlich, oder periodisch
11632			> >> ruckartig.
11633			> >wie kann jemand mit dem IQ von 130 nur SO SELTEN BLOEDE sein??
11634			>
11635	root	1.388	> Norbert ist nicht selten blöde...
11636	root	1.1
11637			:-)
11638	root	1.387	%
11639	root	1.1	SAT 1 Teletext: Ein Asteroid mit einem Durchmesser von fast einem Kilometer
11640	root	1.388	rast mit großer Geschwindigkeit auf die Erde zu. US-Astronomen befürchten:
11641			"XF11" könnte im Jahr 2028 auf der Erde einschlagen. Die Folgen wären
11642	root	1.1	verheerend. "Der rasende Stein aus dem All ist eine Gefahr", warnt Jack G.
11643			Hills vom US-Kernforschungszentrum Los Alamos: "Wenn er die Erde trifft,
11644			wird er die Sprengkraft von 320.000 Megatonnen Dynamit haben." Das
11645			entspricht dem Zweimillionenfachen der Atombombe...
11646
11647			ARD/ZDF Teletext: ASTEROID MIT KURS AUF ERDE ENTDECKT Amerikanische
11648			Astronomen haben einen Asteroiden ausgemacht, der in 30 Jahren der Erde
11649	root	1.388	gefährlich nahekommen wird. Die Gefahr, daß der Asteroid einschlagen wird,
11650			sei gering, aber auch nicht völlig auszuschließen. Nach derzeitigen
11651	root	1.1	Berechnungen wird der Asteroid mit der Bezeichnung "1997 XF11" am 26.Oktober
11652	root	1.388	2028 unserem Planeten am nächsten kommen. "1997 XF11" hat etwa einen
11653			Durchmesser von 1,6 Kilometern. Erstmals käme ein Objekt dieser Größe der
11654			Erde so nahe, hieß es in dem Bericht der Internationalen Astronomischen
11655	root	1.1	Union.
11656
11657	root	1.388	RTL Teletext: Himmelskörper rast auf Erde zu Ein Asteroid wird im Jahr 2028
11658			der Erde gefährlich nahe kommen. Amerikanische Wissenschaftler haben die
11659	root	1.1	Chance eines Zusammenpralls auf eins zu tausend berechnet. Sollte der
11660	root	1.388	Asteroid, der einen Durchmesser von 1,8 Kilometern hat, aufprallen, könnte
11661			er eine gigantische Flutwelle auslösen, so die Forscher. Auch ein genaues
11662			Datum haben die Wissenschaftler schon errechnet: Von Europa aus wäre das
11663	root	1.1	Naturschauspiel am 26. Oktober 2028 zu beobachten.
11664	root	1.387	%
11665	root	1.1	* Linux Viruscan.....
11666			Windows 95 Found Remove it ? (Y/y)
11667	root	1.387	%
11668	root	1.1	>>Hmm, welche Behauptungen entsprechen denn deiner Meinung nach der
11669	root	1.388	>>Realität?
11670	root	1.1	>>
11671			>>Das es das FBI wirklich gibt?
11672	root	1.388	>>Das Scully frigide ist, und deshalb mit Mulder nichts anfangen möchte?
11673			>>Das Mulder homosexuell ist, und deshalb mit Scully nichts anfangen möchte?
11674	root	1.1	>>Das der CSM einen Vertrag mit Marlb*ro hat?
11675			>
11676			>Hinter diesen "Fragen" erkenne ich z.B. eine gut bekannte Strategie. Die
11677			>FBI-Frage ist bewusst absurd. Das Abgleiten ins Sexuelle hat ebenfalls
11678	root	1.387	%
11679	root	1.1	"'You're a Cirrus. You're crap. I'm an S3. I rule. Thank you and please drive through.'"
11680	root	1.387	%
11681	root	1.1	> How could you have perl take a set of numbers (1,2,3,4) and put them
11682			> into a random order???
11683			>
11684
11685			@array=qw(1 2 3 4);
11686			print "@array[1,3,2,0]\n";
11687
11688			I've checked this against other possible random orderings
11689			of these numbers, and this ordering is at least as random as
11690			any of the other possible ones. The benefit of this one being
11691			that it begins with the number 2, which is my favorite random
11692			number less than 42.
11693	root	1.387	%
11694	root	1.1	From what I am reading Win98 and NT5.0 will be getting rid of all that
11695			crap anyway. Seems that Microsoft has invented something called TCP/IP and
11696			another really revolutionary concept called DNS that eliminates the
11697			netbios crap too. All that arping from browsers is going to go away.
11698			I also hear rumors that they are on the verge of breakthrough discoveries
11699			called NFS, and LPD too. Given enough time and money, they might
11700			eventually invent Unix.
11701	root	1.387	%
11702	root	1.1	In Germany, where typeface design has always been a significant part of
11703			the cultural heritage, and where typefounding has remained an important
11704			business, there are more than one kind of copyright-like protections for
11705			typefaces. Certain long-standing industrial design protection laws have
11706			been used to protect typeface designs in litigation over royalties and
11707			plagiarisms. Further, there is a recent law, the so-called
11708			"Schriftzeichengesetz" enacted in 1981, that specifically protects
11709			typeface designs. New designs are registered, as is done with
11710			copyright in most countries. This law only protects new, original
11711			designs. It is available to non-German designers and firms. Therefore,
11712			some type firms and designers routinely copyright new designs in West
11713			Germany. This gives a degree of protection for products marketed in
11714			Germany. Since multinational corporations may find it cheaper to
11715			license a design for world-wide use rather than deal with a special case
11716			in one country, the German law does encourage licensing on a broader
11717			scale than would initially seem to be the case.
11718	root	1.387	%
11719	root	1.1	[linux processes vs. nt/solaris threads]
11720			Rob Pike pointed out that the solution to slow process creation is
11721			faster process creation, not another kernel abstraction.
11722	root	1.387	%
11723	root	1.1	Does anybody know how to communicate between a PC and a modem,
11724			using a Perl CGI script?
11725	root	1.387	%
11726	root	1.1	>I really don't know crap about PERL. How is it different from JAVA?
11727
11728			One tiny difference: Java can crash your browser. It happened to me last
11729			week.
11730	root	1.387	%
11731	root	1.1	Brieweb> I heard Randal Schwartz say he could write an entire httpd server in 90 lines
11732			Brieweb> of PERL.
11733			No, that's an http proxy server. A simple web server is much shorter.
11734			From "perldoc HTTP::Daemon"...
11735			[Randal Schwartz]
11736	root	1.387	%
11737	root	1.1	But the possibility of abuse may be a good reason for leaving
11738			capabilities out of other computer languages, it's not a good reason
11739			for leaving capabilities out of Perl.
11740			[Larry Wall in `Macros'. [[perl5-porters]]]
11741	root	1.387	%
11742	root	1.1	Yes: Java's main advantage over Perl is that it's hard to use for casual
11743			programmers, so keeps all but the most intrepid programmers away from it.
11744			It has no decent support for string processing, allowing you to spend
11745			hours at useless debugging. It has a very restrictive and static system
11746			to make sure you don't try anything interesting. It makes sure that you
11747			use objects, by golly, because James Gosling said so. It's easy for C++
11748			programmers to use, and hard for shell or BASIC programmers to use. It
11749			also only runs on a few systems, locking its customers into a a closed
11750			system and restricting their options.
11751			[Tom Christiansen in `Java Vs. Perl']
11752	root	1.387	%
11753	root	1.1	<Bill_Gates> Where do you want to go today?
11754			<Phase_5> Where do go tomorrow?
11755			<BlueFlux> Where were you yesterday?!?!
11756	root	1.387	%
11757	root	1.1	"It's not to control, but to protect the citizens of Singapore. In our
11758			society, you can state your views, but they have to be correct."
11759			Ernie Hai
11760			Coordinator of Singapore Government Internet Project
11761	root	1.387	%
11762	root	1.1	: I very much prefer a useful error message than a "it produced the wrong
11763			: results" report from the users.
11764
11765			if i got even "it produced the wrong results" from our users, i would
11766			be in 7th heaven. ours often mail us with such insightful requests as
11767			"can you tell me my email address?" no, sorry, that should be "CAN U
11768			TEL ME MY E MAIL ADRES DUDE?!!!?? HURRY!!!"
11769	root	1.387	%
11770	root	1.1	There are many intelligent species in the Universe.
11771			They are all owned by cats.
11772	root	1.387	%
11773	root	1.1	Why dignify your unsustainable, unjustifiable, unprovable feeble
11774			attempts at character assassination with anything resembling a reply?
11775			You only make yourself look foolish by mouthing off like that.
11776	root	1.387	%
11777	root	1.1	From: L & K Olson <kolson@mbnet.mb.ca>
11778			Subject: If they wrote error messages in haiku ...
11779
11780			Yesterday it worked
11781			Today it is not working
11782			Windows is like that
11783			- - -
11784			wind catches lily
11785			scatt'ring petals to the wind:
11786			segmentation fault
11787			- - -
11788			Three things are certain:
11789			Death, taxes, and lost data.
11790			Guess which has occurred.
11791			- - -
11792			A file that big?
11793			It might be very useful.
11794			But now it is gone.
11795			- - -
11796			Windows NT crashed.
11797			I am the Blue Screen of Death.
11798			No one hears your screams.
11799			- - -
11800			Errors have occurred.
11801			We won't tell you where or why.
11802			Lazy programmers.
11803			- - -
11804			Seeing my great fault
11805			Through darkening blue windows
11806			I begin again
11807			- - -
11808			The code was willing,
11809			It considered your request,
11810			But the chips were weak.
11811			- - -
11812			Printer not ready.
11813			Could be a fatal error.
11814			Have a pen handy?
11815			- - -
11816			Server's poor response
11817			Not quick enough for browser.
11818			Timed out, plum blossom.
11819			- - -
11820			Chaos reigns within.
11821			Reflect, repent, and reboot.
11822			Order shall return.
11823			- - -
11824			Login incorrect.
11825			Only perfect spellers may
11826			enter this system.
11827			- - -
11828			This site has been moved.
11829			We'd tell you where, but then we'd
11830			have to delete you.
11831			- - -
11832			ABORTED effort:
11833			Close all that you have.
11834			You ask way too much.
11835			- - -
11836			First snow, then silence.
11837			This thousand dollar screen dies
11838			so beautifully.
11839			- - -
11840			With searching comes loss
11841			and the presence of absence:
11842			"My Novel" not found.
11843			- - -
11844			The Tao that is seen
11845			Is not the true Tao, until
11846			You bring fresh toner.
11847			- - -
11848			The Web site you seek
11849			cannot be located but
11850			endless others exist
11851			- - -
11852			Stay the patient course
11853			Of little worth is your ire
11854			The network is down
11855			- - -
11856			A crash reduces
11857			your expensive computer
11858			to a simple stone.
11859			- - -
11860			There is a chasm
11861			of carbon and silicon
11862			the software can't bridge
11863			- - -
11864			To have no errors
11865			Would be life without meaning
11866			No struggle, no joy
11867			- - -
11868			You step in the stream,
11869			but the water has moved on.
11870			This page is not here.
11871			- - -
11872			No keyboard present
11873			Hit F1 to continue
11874			Zen engineering?
11875			- - -
11876			Hal, open the file
11877			Hal, open the damn file, Hal
11878			open it, please Hal
11879			- - -
11880			Out of memory.
11881			We wish to hold the whole sky,
11882			But we never will.
11883			- - -
11884			Having been erased,
11885			The document you're seeking
11886			Must now be retyped.
11887			- - -
11888			The ten thousand things
11889			How long do any persist?
11890			Netscape, too, has gone.
11891			- - -
11892			Rather than a beep
11893			Or a rude error message,
11894			These words: "File not found."
11895			- - -
11896			Serious error.
11897			All shortcuts have disappeared
11898			Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
11899	root	1.387	%
11900	root	1.1	"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way
11901			to factor large prime numbers." -- Bill Gates from "The Road Ahead," p. 265.
11902	root	1.387	%
11903	root	1.1	> What is the Windows equivalent of the first line used for
11904			> UNIX (#!/usr/local/bin/perl) that tells where the Perl interpreter is?
11905
11906			Windows hasn't gotten quite as far in functionality as, say, BSD Unix in the
11907			early 1980s.
11908	root	1.387	%
11909	root	1.1	> I have a chat script, that will work fine for a bit then after a while
11910			> the private messages will stop working. It might be because I changed
11911			> something, but chances are that isn't the case. I re-install a fresh
11912			> copy, paths are correct, and they still don't work
11913
11914			I think you are experiencing GOVERNMENT CONTROL. You see, everyone
11915			with a chat script is being scrutinised by the department of CHAT
11916			control. Whenever they see some message they don't like, they
11917			introduce some little goblin called feature-creep in your program. if
11918			you have lots of these little devils, your program migth acquire so
11919			many new features that it just stops working.
11920
11921			This also applies to Microsoft products.
11922
11923			> Does it make sense for certain features to just not work?! If you can
11924			> help, or have suggestions, get back to me, PLEASE:)
11925
11926			Yes, it makes perfect sense. Especially if they're features which
11927			really are bugs. And especially if they're 'private' messages. You
11928			know perfectly well that the government doesn't like private messages.
11929
11930			Hope this explains what's going on
11931			Martien Verbruggen
11932	root	1.387	%
11933	root	1.1	...code? If you're on a misconfigured NT server (is that redundant?), you...
11934	root	1.387	%
11935	root	1.1	X11R6.1-based free X server compiles, links and crashes under IRIX(TM).
11936	root	1.387	%
11937	root	1.1	-------------- please bite here ------------- bitte hier abbeissen ---------
11938	root	1.387	%
11939	root	1.1	"Frag mal, auf was fuer uptimes man kommt, wenn man Software-Entwicklung
11940			unter NT macht..." "Das koennen bis zu dreissig Minuten werden - in der
11941			Mittagspause." -- Andreas Bogk, Kai Fett, de.alt.sysadmin.recovery
11942	root	1.387	%
11943	root	1.1	> ++ A lot of posters here have .sigs that include perl one liners.
11944			> ++ Is there a safe way to run them, and be assured that they wont
11945			> ++ damage and/or erase files? (or e-mail off my shadow file)
11946			>
11947			> Just make sure you understand it ;)
11948
11949			I nominate Abigail for best response of the year with this one. Come to
11950			think of it, I nominate it for best response of next year, too.
11951	root	1.387	%
11952	root	1.1	Your moderator will be spending the next week on a beach on a small island
11953			where the phones don't work very well, so there won't be any comp.compilers
11954			until the 28th. Any messages you send in will wait here until I get back and
11955			should be posted on March 1st or 2nd.
11956	root	1.387	%
11957	root	1.1	But now, in comp.lang.perl.misc, you have a bunch of people who aren't
11958			even asking how to make the pieces fit together, but what the
11959			individual pieces are. ("How do I get my lego project to roll accross
11960			the table?" "You use one of those pieces that have the wheels
11961			attached.") Or questions that aren't about building at all. ("The
11962			motor stopped moving. How do I get it to start again?" "The batteries
11963			are probably dead. You can buy new batteries at any department or
11964			convienience store.")
11965	root	1.387	%
11966	root	1.1	: how do i make my perl script run?
11967			Get up at 91 minutes before dawn, clothe yourself in neon green body
11968	root	1.387	%
11969	root	1.1	for some reason Windoze users don't seem to expect docs to come with an archive
11970	root	1.424	>>> ToiLeTGoD
11971	root	1.1
11972			Well, well.. I always wondered who/what made that flush thingy work.
11973			Pretty cool name, dude. (not)
11974	root	1.387	%
11975	root	1.1	Ummm...create "comp.lang.perl.wizards", make it moderated and all posts,
11976			including xposts, go into /dev/null. Most FAQers won't have the Usenet
11977			background to understand that such groups are either a) a wasteland
11978			populated (briefly) by persons like themselves, or b) point to /dev/null.
11979	root	1.387	%
11980	root	1.1	Lazy people never bother to actually read the manual. Instead they (like
11981			kids) pick something with big, colorful buttons.
11982			-- Eugene Tyurin <gene@insti.physics.sunysb.edu>
11983	root	1.387	%
11984	root	1.1	The Average Person's Axioms of First Order Predicate Logic:
11985			(A => B) => (B => A)
11986			(There exists) x A(x) => (For all) x A(x)
11987			(A => C) & (B => C) => (A => B) - Warren Vonroeschlaub
11988	root	1.387	%
11989	root	1.1	cal 9 1752
11990	root	1.387	%
11991	root	1.1	Installing unix fixes the [VMS] bug.
11992			-Barry Shein
11993	root	1.387	%
11994	root	1.1	And this horrible free-for-all will be left to children wondering around
11995			by themselves in the dark because they refuse to turn on the light and
11996			read the manual.
11997	root	1.387	%
11998	root	1.1	"SPARC" is "CRAPS" backwards --Rob Pike
11999	root	1.387	%
12000	root	1.1	I increasingly begin to understand why some universities require
12001			that its compsci majors study the Euclid's Prime Number Theorem,
12002			the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, Cantor's Diagonalization Proof,
12003			Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem, and the ramifications of Halting Problem
12004			in everyday life. These may not be involved in daily programming, but
12005			it helps develop a rigorous mind. And it gives those who would progress
12006			from typist to word-processor devotee to HTML documenter to CGI scripter
12007			to distributed multithreaded operating systems design specialist cause
12008			for pause. You just can't do that without proper training.
12009	root	1.387	%
12010	root	1.1	comp.lang.perl.i'm-from-microsoft-so-won't-read-documentation
12011	root	1.387	%
12012	root	1.1	I suggest you install a newsserver, and keep a local spool. Anything else
12013			is too much work, and fairly silly. The Internet has catupulted even
12014			the Wintel victims past the days of BBS toys.
12015	root	1.387	%
12016	root	1.1	> Help help! Pls advise me thru email.
12017
12018			I advise you to buy a new keyboard; one that has all the keys you
12019			need.
12020	root	1.387	%
12021	root	1.1	Christian Fundamentalism: The doctrine that there is an absolutely
12022			powerful, infinitely knowledgeable, universe spanning entity that is
12023			deeply and personally concerned about my sex life.
12024	root	1.387	%
12025	root	1.1	I find the first particularly useful in destroying the miswrapped
12026			lines stemming from brain-damaged "it's just another word processor"
12027			newsreaders. You know,
12028			those postings that always seem to go to the edge of the line and then
12029			back
12030			again to the start, as this paragraph has. These are just too painful
12031			to read. Just kill them. It's not worth your time trying to figure
12032			out what they're saying.
12033	root	1.387	%
12034	root	1.1	It is most annoying to receive junk mail describing how to purchase 93
12035			million addresses, while knowing that yours is one of them.
12036	root	1.387	%
12037	root	1.1	I'm surprised Tom, how could it miss the "X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT;
12038			U)" header line? Personally, I find the attempted use of Netscape as a
12039			newsreader even worse then the attempted use of WinNT as an OS. :-)
12040
12041			But the combination.... sutters
12042	root	1.387	%
12043	root	1.1	Hm... my new killfile isn't detecting you're posting from Windows.
12044			Darn it.
12045	root	1.387	%
12046	root	1.1	At least he didn't post in all caps.
12047	root	1.387	%
12048	root	1.1	http://language.perl.com/CPAN-local/doc/FAQs/cgi/idiots-guide.html
12049	root	1.387	%
12050	root	1.1	I think the biggest problem with M.S.A. is that the scripts work for Matt, but
12051			the majority of people trying to use them are from the
12052			"Wintel/AOL/FrontPage/push-a-button/HTML-is-programming/no-programming-required"
12053			school of non-learning. It isn't a problem with the code, per se, but with those
12054			trying to use it.
12055	root	1.387	%
12056	root	1.1	"Linux can emulate an C64 on my AMDK6PR200 at full speed. Windows can't."
12057	root	1.387	%
12058	root	1.1	cdog wrote:
12059			>
12060			> Is this group active?
12061			No.
12062
12063			If you had spent half a second LOOKING at the group before posting, you
12064			probably could have come to that conclusion yourself.
12065
12066			On a personal note, I died 3 years, 8 days, 5 minutes, 16 seconds, and
12067			345 milliseconds ago, but who's counting.
12068	root	1.387	%
12069	root	1.1	"Security through obscurity is no security at all."
12070			-comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup posting
12071	root	1.387	%
12072	root	1.1	"Windows 95 will now attempt to blow chunks across your primary partition.
12073			Press any key to continue..."
12074	root	1.387	%
12075	root	1.1	NT 5.0 is the last nail in the Unix coffin. Interestingly, Unix
12076			isn't in the coffin... It's wondering what the heck is sealing
12077			itself into a wooden box 6 feet underground...
12078	root	1.387	%
12079	root	1.1	The Wall St Journal (1996-01-22, page 1) reported that Cuba is
12080			considering jumping across the International Date Line, just so that
12081			it's the first into the year 2000. So it's possible you'll have to
12082			adjust your travel plans.
12083	root	1.387	%
12084	root	1.388	"Wo kämen wir hin, wenn alle sagten, wo kämen wir hin, und niemand ginge
12085			hin, um einmal zu schauen, wohin man käme, wenn man ginge." -- Kurt Marti
12086	root	1.387	%
12087	root	1.1	The Takeuchi function is a popular benchmark of function calling due to its
12088			highly recursive nature. It's defined as:
12089
12090			tak x y z = z, if y >= x
12091			= tak (tak (x-1) y z) (tak (y - 1) z x) (tak (z - 1) x y), otherwise
12092
12093			For this benchmark, the function is invoked as:
12094
12095			tak 18 12 6
12096	root	1.387	%
12097	root	1.1	"Nobody will ever need more than 640k RAM!"
12098			-- Bill Gates
12099			"Windows 95 needs at least 8 MB RAM."
12100			-- Bill Gates
12101			"Nobody will ever need Windows 95."
12102			-- logical conclusion
12103	root	1.387	%
12104	root	1.1	Year Name James Bond Book
12105			- ---- -------------------------------- -------------- ----
12106			50's James Bond TV Series Barry Nelson
12107			1962 Dr. No Sean Connery 1958
12108			1963 From Russia With Love Sean Connery 1957
12109			1964 Goldfinger Sean Connery 1959
12110			1965 Thunderball Sean Connery 1961
12111			1967* Casino Royale David Niven 1954
12112			1967 You Only Live Twice Sean Connery 1964
12113			1969 On Her Majesty's Secret Service George Lazenby 1963
12114			1971 Diamonds Are Forever Sean Connery 1956
12115			1973 Live And Let Die Roger Moore 1955
12116			1974 The Man With The Golden Gun Roger Moore 1965
12117			1977 The Spy Who Loved Me Roger Moore 1962 (novelette)
12118			1979 Moonraker Roger Moore 1955
12119			1981 For Your Eyes Only Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
12120			1983 Octopussy Roger Moore 1965
12121			1983* Never Say Never Again Sean Connery
12122			1985 A View To A Kill Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
12123			1987 The Living Daylights Timothy Dalton 1965 (novelette)
12124			* -- Not a Broccoli production.
12125	root	1.387	%
12126	root	1.1	Windows NT: n.
12127			32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit
12128			operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written
12129			by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
12130	root	1.387	%
12131	root	1.388	Auf der Kiste läuft EHNIX, das ist ZUNIX kompatibel.