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1	root	1.470	Dana Angluin's List of Proof Techniques
2
3			Proof by example:
4			The author gives only the case n=2 and suggests that it contains most
5			of the ideas of the general proof.
6
7			Proof by intimidation:
8			'Trivial.'
9
10			Proof by vigorous handwaving:
11			Works well in a classroom or seminar setting.
12
13			Proof by cumbersome notation:
14			Best done with access to at least four alphabets and special symbols.
15
16			Proof by exhaustion:
17			An issue or two of a journal devoted to your proof is useful.
18
19			Proof by omission:
20			'The reader may easily supply the details.'
21			'The other 253 cases are analogous.'
22			'...'
23
24			Proof by obfuscation:
25			A long plotless sequence of true and/or meaningless syntactically
26			related statements.
27
28			Proof by wishful citation:
29			The author cites the negation, converse, or generalization of a theorem
30			from the literature to support his claims.
31
32			Proof by funding:
33			How could three different government agencies be wrong?
34
35			Proof by eminent authority:
36			'I saw Karp in the elevator and he said it was probably NP-complete.'
37
38			Proof by personal communication:
39			'Eight-dimensional colored cycle stripping is NP-complete' [Karp,
40			personal commmunication].
41
42			Proof by reduction to the wrong problem:
43			'To see that infinite-dimensional colored cycle stripping is decidable,
44			we reduce it to the halting problem.'
45
46			Proof by reference to inaccessible literature:
47			The author cites a simple corollary of a theorem to be found in a
48			privately circulated memoir of the Slovenian Philological Society,
49			1883.
50
51			Proof by importance:
52			A large body of useful consequences all follow from the proposition in question.
53
54			Proof by accumulated evidence:
55			Long and diligent search has not revealed a counterexample.
56
57			Proof by cosmology:
58			The negation of the proposition is unimaginable or meaningless. Popular
59			for proofs of the existence of God.
60
61			Proof by mutual reference:
62			In reference A, Theorem 5 is said to follow from Theorem 3 in reference
63			B, which is shown to follow from Corollary 6.2 in reference C, which is
64			an easy consequence of Theorem 5 in reference A.
65
66			Proof by meta-proof:
67			A method is given to construct the desired proof. The correctness of
68			the method is proved by any of these techniques.
69
70			Proof by picture:
71			A more convincing form of proof by example. Combines well with proof by omission.
72
73			Proof by vehement assertion:
74			It is useful to have some kind of authority relation to the audience.
75
76			Proof by ghost reference:
77			Nothing even remotely resembling the cited theorem appears in the reference given.
78
79			Proof by forward reference:
80			Reference is usually to a forthcoming paper of the author, which is
81			often not as forthcoming as at first.
82
83			Proof by semantic shift:
84			Some standard but inconvenient definitions are changed for the
85			statement of the result.
86
87			Proof by appeal to intuition:
88			Cloud-shaped drawings frequently help here.
89
90			Proof by elimination of the counterexample:
91			'Assume for the moment that the hypothesis is true. Now, let's
92			suppose we find a counterexample. So what? QED.' (from Don Woods
93			<DON@SU-AI.ARPA>)
94
95			[https://users.cs.northwestern.edu/~riesbeck/proofs.html]
96			%
97	root	1.469	polkit: Similar to sudo but much more complicated
98
99			[https://github.com/helloSystem/hello/wiki/Welcome-and-unwelcome-technologies]
100			%
101			D-Bus: IPC, but complicated. Why do we need XML schema files, why is there
102			sometimes / notation and sometimes ., and so on. IPC is a good thing, but
103			this implementation is too complicated!
104
105			[https://github.com/helloSystem/hello/wiki/Welcome-and-unwelcome-technologies]
106			%
107			Pipewire: Solution in search of a problem you don't have without Wayland?
108
109			[https://github.com/helloSystem/hello/wiki/Welcome-and-unwelcome-technologies]
110			%
111			In general, Wayland is moving away from the modularity, portability, and standardization of the X server.
112
113			[https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/wayland_on_netbsd_trials_and]
114			%
115			The Wayland "reference implementation" is a small set of libraries that
116			can be used to build a compositor or a client application. These libraries
117			currently have hard dependencies on Linux kernel APIs like epoll. In
118			pkgsrc we've patched the libraries to add kqueue(2) support, but the
119			patches haven't been accepted upstream. Wayland is written with the
120			assumption of Linux to the extent that every client application tends to
121			#include <linux/input.h> because Wayland's designers didn't see the need
122			to define a OS-neutral way to get mouse button IDs.
123
124			[https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/wayland_on_netbsd_trials_and]
125			%
126	root	1.468	As best I can tell (from the long and unsatisfactory thread I pursed on
127			the Wayland Developers list some little time ago), the core issue with
128			Wayland and Color is social, not technical:
129
130			1. none of the key developers have the faintest idea what Color or Color
131			Management is, and (worse):
132
133			2. they have no idea why it would be at all important.
134
135			[https://discuss.pixls.us/t/wayland-color-management/10804/4]
136			%
137			> (isn't it the case with ifconfig vs. ip already?)
138
139			Wayland is more like they created ip but named the command ifconfig, then
140			told you to go fix your scripts.
141
142			If the Wayland developers had sense, they would have carefully considered
143			how to make it a seemless transition for developers. Instead, they decided
144			they were the ultimate authority on software engineering and screw
145			developers, they are all doing it wrong anyways.
146
147			[https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277#gistcomment-3862027]
148			%
149			Wayland is written with the assumption of Linux to the extent that every
150			client application tends to #include <linux/input.h> because Wayland's
151			designers didn't see the need to define a OS-neutral way to get mouse
152			button IDs.
153
154			[https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/wayland_on_netbsd_trials_and]
155			%
156			... a basic barebones TWM for X11 works better and offers more features
157			than Weston which contains ~20 times more code
158
159			[https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277#gistcomment-3526530]
160			%
161			"It is true that Wayland somewhat sucks ass" -- The Lutris founder
162			[The Lutris founder quoting himself]
163			%
164			Eine solche Regulierung schafft man in Deutschland nur für wirklich
165			wichtige Themen wie zur Durchsetzung der Bereitstellung von Schnittstellen
166			für die Telekommunikationsüberwachung. Bei so irrelevanten Themen wie
167			dem Katastrophenschutz und der Alarmierung der Bevölkerung braucht man
168			den Markt nicht zu regulieren.
169
170			[https://laforge.gnumonks.org/blog/20210719-smscb/]
171			From: Stephen Searle
172			Date: 18 Mar 1998, 09:00:00
173			Subject: A Clockwork Nethacker
174
175			What if the next version of Nethack has a new class based on the Droogs
176			of Anthony Burgess' novel (and later Stanley Kubrick film) "A Clockwork
177			Orange"?
178
179			I imagine the language would be radically different, like the
180			Samurai-speak only much, much more so...
181
182			Your rookers glow red -more-
183			You tolchock the floating glazzy real horrorshow! -more-
184			The floating glazzy appears bezoomny.
185			You brosay your britva at the floating glazzy -more-
186			The floating glazzy is oobivatted!
187
188			Ugh - that Pishcha was rotten! -more-
189			You feel a malenky bit bolnoy.
190
191			You govoreet with the charlie of Bog -more-
192			The charlie asks you for some cutter for the temple.
193
194			The devotchka flashes her groodies at you -more-
195			"Take off your platties, they're in the way" -more-
196			Raz stands still while you and the devotchka lie in each other's rookers...
197			(or:)
198			"You're such a bolshy chelloveck, I wish..."
199
200			The rassoodock-flayer tolchocks you!
201			Your shlem blocks the attack to your gulliver.
202			The rassoodock-flayer tolchocks you real horrorshow!
203			Your brain is eaten! You feel gloopy!
204
205			An enormous dook appears next to you!
206			You are poogly to snuffit and unable to itty!
207
208			You slooshy someone cursing prestoopnicks.
209
210			You ittied from the shop without pretty pollying! -more-
211			You crasted 100 gollies worth of veshches! -more-
212			A millicent's whistle zvooks -more-
213			The Keystone rozzes are after you!
214
215
216			Heh... I think I will have to write a little text filter for Nethack :-)
217
218			-SJS
219
220			[https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/c/3P5KdEPru6o/m/UxXyLvAsJUwJ]
221			%
222			"Validity of journal" is not an argument from authority fallacy, it is an
223			assessment of the prior on source quality.
224			%
225	root	1.467	You know what they say though, if the punishment for a crime is a fee
226			then it’s only a crime for the poor.
227			%
228	root	1.466	[https://signal.org/blog/cellebrite-vulnerabilities/]
229
230			In completely unrelated news, upcoming versions of Signal will be
231			periodically fetching files to place in app storage. These files are never
232			used for anything inside Signal and never interact with Signal software or
233			data, but they look nice, and aesthetics are important in software. Files
234			will only be returned for accounts that have been active installs for some
235			time already, and only probabilistically in low percentages based on phone
236			number sharding. We have a few different versions of files that we think
237			are aesthetically pleasing, and will iterate through those slowly over
238			time. There is no other significance to these files.
239			%
240	root	1.465	"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's
241			life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy
242			that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes,
243			leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to
244			deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs. "
245			- John Rogers
246			%
247	root	1.464	The population is made up of four types of people: A small number hunt
248			witches. A large number go along with the hunt. A larger number are
249			silent. A tiny number oppose it. The final group — as if by magic —
250			become witches.
251
252			– Bret Weinstein
253			%
254	root	1.463	Looting is transition to freedom.
255			- Rumsfeld 2003
256			%
257	root	1.462	I’m adding a new favorite Randroid argument to my list:
258
259			1) "You disagree with me, therefore you don’t understand Rand’s ‘philosophy’."
260
261			2) "You didn’t REALLY read her books and essays. Go read them again… you still disagree?" (defer back to 1)
262
263			3) Angry name calling (always a favorite)
264
265			4)!! "Read Rand’s disciples, they surely knew better what Rand REALLY meant." (Last line of defense when 1,2,3 fail)
266
267			[commenter at http://www.rotman.uwo.ca/the-system-that-wasnt-there-ayn-rands-failed-philosophy-and-why-it-matters/]
268			%
269	root	1.461	Doubly-linked lists are hard
270			- a rust tutorial
271			%
272	root	1.460	As someone who has been acquainted with a surprisingly large number of
273			people who write fantasy, I can tell you that the difference between
274			fantasy and reality is that fantasy has to make sense.
275
276			[Tyvor Winn, https://pandasthumb.org/archives/2019/07/fire-breathing-dinosaurs.html]
277			%
278			The overarching theme of the code of conduct has always been Be Nice and
279			that has been problematic for a long time.
280
281			[https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/334058/are-there-specific-issues-with-unwelcoming-behavior-toward-lgbtq-persons-on-stac/]
282			%
283	root	1.459	GNU Powered it
284			GPL Protected it
285			GOD Blessed it
286
287			[from Nala Ginrut's mail signature]
288			%
289	root	1.458	a friend once told me that "ex-mother-in-law-to-be" was the most wonderful
290			kinship term she'd ever heard.
291
292			[http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler/aue/tense.html]
293			%
294			> I have long considered that the BRs were written by the in-group, for
295			> the in-group, and do not adequately call out the expected processes for
296			> an outsider wanting to join the in-group.
297
298			I don't agree.
299
300			> The outsiders sometimes struggle not because they are trying to
301			> accomplish anything of wrong intent, but because the step by step path
302			> is not as clear as it could be.
303
304			As an outsider, it's true that you are expected to know how to be a
305			trustworthy CA. The ecosystem is not designed to help you to learn how
306			to be trustworthy - the ecosystem does not improve from having more
307			applicants who lack that knowledge - and so yes, the baseline expectation
308			is that applying CAs are operated beyond reproach.
309
310			[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1427262]
311			[darkmatter uae trying to get a root certificate for nefarious purposes]
312			%
313			> that way you can adapt your own UID allocation to reliably avoid that range.
314
315			That is my major issue with systemd: That it postulates that everybody
316			else shall adapt to its conventions, w/o configurability, even if there
317			other conventions exist for a very long time.
318
319			[https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/]
320			%
321			static void die_you_gravy_sucking_pig_dog(void) __dead;
322
323			[minix/sbin/shutdown sources]
324			%
325	root	1.457	However, as you can imagine, this is a terrible idea for some zones. If
326			you could walk the .gov zone, you could learn every US government agency
327			and government agency portal.
328
329			[wow, it's terrible if people could learn about every US government
330			agency? of the people, for the people, no?]
331
332			[https://blog.cloudflare.com/black-lies/]
333			%
334			Most of the images at NASA have their EXIF data completely removed.
335
336			[hollycrap in https://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1016]
337			%
338			The theory of gravity explaining our solar system, can easily be disproved
339			as objects that only had attractive force towards each other would end up
340			smashing into each other, sooner or later.
341
342			[aa5 in https://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1957]
343			%
344			Windows 98 "SE" "Suckers Edition"
345			Windows "ME" Mistake Edition
346			Windows "NT" Not to Terrible
347			Windows 2000 ahhhhh! A good OS!
348			Windows "XP" eXtra Problems
349			%
350	root	1.456	Instead of banning every word out there, we should make the mental effort
351			to do better than the political correctness movement that stops at the
352			surface. So, let’s call it master-slave, and instead make a call for US,
353			where a sizable black population is very poor, to have free healthcare,
354			to have cops that are less biased against non-white people, to stop death
355			penalty. This makes really a difference.
356
357			[http://antirez.com/news/122]
358			%
359			"MASTER/Slave" is ungood crimethinkful oldspeak. plusgood rectify unword.
360			Is Minitrue doubleplusgoodwork truthwise. chocorat anyone?
361
362			[https://github.com/django/django/pull/2692#issuecomment-44847465]
363			%
364	root	1.455	Somebody should tell EU, 1984 was not an instruction manual.
365
366			[BhishmPitamah, in https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/9f9za4/europe_just_voted/]
367			%
368	root	1.454	[supposedly from the firmware update script for certain tesla car models]
369
370			# We should have some way here of keeping the car parked. What if
371			# they try to drive off while we're in the middle of an upgrade?
372
373			# We should also have a mutex around everything that follows. What if
374			# unpack.sh gets triggered on the same tarball twice? This is more of
375			# a problem now that we might be deferring installation.
376
377			# We should also have a recovery system. What if we remove the
378			# tarball filename but this process is killed before it can complete?
379
380			[https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3862643&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=87#post]
381			%
382	root	1.453	[https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2015#tech-editor]
383
384			Vim 15.2%
385			Emacs 3.8%
386
387			[https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2016#technology-development-environments]
388
389			Vim 26.1%
390			Emacs 5.2%
391			%
392	root	1.452	Systemd dies if there is no cgroup support in the kernel.
393
394			Poettering: "To make this work we’d need a patch, as nobody of us tests this"
395
396			R! /dir/.* destroys root.
397
398			Poettering: "I am not sure I'd consider this much of a problem. Yeah, it's a UNIX pitfall, but "rm -rf /foo/.*" will work the exact same way, no?"
399
400			Processes owned by a user with a leading zero in the name are started with root privilege..
401
402			Pottering: "I don't think there's anything to fix in systemd here"
403
404			Systemd kill background processes after user logs out.
405
406			Poettering: "In my view it was actually quite strange of UNIX that it by default let arbitrary user code stay around unrestricted after logout."
407
408			'I have an issue with journal corruptions and need to know what is the accepted way to deal with them.'
409
410			Poettering: "Yupp, journal corruptions result in rotation, and when reading we try to make the best of it. they are nothing we really need to fix hence."
411
412			'Poettering locked and limited conversation to collaborators on 17 Apr'
413
414			[https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10927261&cid=54905721]
415			%
416			[raid controller vendor lock-in techniques]
417
418			>>> Are HP/PMCS doing the Intel/LSI thing with controllers only working on
419			>>> their own servers.
420			>>
421			>> you mean the DELL PERC5/i 6/i tape of smbus pins mod thing? (Dell first!)
422			>
423			> No the Intel where that trick doesn't work thing.
424
425			[https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/hp-p400-why-so-cheap-on-ebay.2308/page-2]
426			%
427	root	1.451	The way I see it, once you move to Firefox 57, you're ready for Chrome.
428
429			[from a discussion about how deleting all existing extensions and force-replacing
430			them by inferior webextensions (if at all) is a great idea]
431			%
432	root	1.450	Chronology of Significant Events
433			================================
434
435	root	1.449	November 2002
436
437			Rahman wearing only socks and diaper; supervisor has concern regarding
438			hypothermia Rahman subjected to 48 hours of sleep deprivation, rough
439			treatment, cold shower and other measures but remained noncompliant.
440
441			---
442
443			Subjected to cold conditions and minimum food and sleep... confused due to
444			dehydration and fatigue.
445
446			---
447
448			Cable recommends future use of continued environmental deprivations with
449			interrogations 18 out of 24 hours daily
450
451			---
452
453			Linguist asks questions about the temperature at which hypothermia occurs
454
455			November 19 2200 hrs
456			guard check - Rahman is alive.
457
458			2300 hrs
459			guard check - Rahman is alive.
460
461			November 20 0400 hrs
462			guard check - Rahman is alive.
463
464			0800 hrs
465			guard check - Rahman is alive.
466
467			1000 hrs
468			guard check - Rahman is dead.
469
470			[https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/oct/09/cia-torture-black-site-enhanced-interrogation]
471			%
472	root	1.448	In the quiet moments, he set his hand terminal to the Eros feed. Back
473			when he’d been a kid, there had been a performance artist making
474			the rounds—Jila Sorormaya, her name was. As he recalled, she’d
475			intentionally corrupted data-storage devices and then put the data stream
476			through her music kit. She’d gotten into trouble when some of the
477			proprietary code of the storage device software got incorporated into her
478			music and posted. Miller hadn’t been a sophisticate. He’d figured
479			another nutcase artist had to get a real job, and the universe could only
480			be a better place.
481
482			[E. Corey, Leviathan Wakes, p. 466]
483			%
484	root	1.447	> Speaking of Apple... Anybody remember their ads against multitasking? I
485			> always assumed that was against the Amiga as well but probably any
486			> computer at the time that did multitasking. I think their tag line was
487			> like "One person. One computer. One Task." or something like. Those ads
488			> really tried to sell the distraction of multitasking. What a crazy time
489			> in technology.
490
491			-P
492			Not as bad as telling us we are holding the phone wrong.
493
494			[http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=72811]
495			%
496			> Simon Cooke wrote:
497			> shrugs I don’t recall ever hearing that the length of a word was CPU specific.
498
499			I think I’m going to add this to my random signature collection.
500
501			[https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20050131-00/?p=36563]
502			%
503	root	1.446	Big congratulations to Acer, who used 55555555-5555-5555-5555-555555555555
504			for this in one of their db entries. Not only did they win the random
505			number generator lottery to get that, but also experienced a minimum
506			of 3 single bit errors, since the closest valid GUID to that is
507			55555555-5555-4555-9555-555555555555
508
509			[https://blog.uncooperative.org/blog/2014/10/23/uefi-security-databases/]
510			%
511	root	1.445	Contrary to what Carrier says, it is not clear to me that Amy Frank or
512			anyone else accused him of sexual assault. Carrier’s lawsuit makes
513			the tenuous argument that Amy Frank implied sexual assault by using the
514			hashtag #sexualassault.
515
516			[https://freethoughtblogs.com/atrivialknot/2017/01/04/i-liked-richard-carrier-past-tense/]
517			%
518	root	1.444	From: Linus Torvalds
519
520			And yes, a large part of this may be that I no longer feel like I can
521			trust "init" to do the sane thing. You all presumably know why.
522
523			[https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/7/6/577]
524			%
525			> How is the old way a problem?
526
527			That's systemd in a nutshell (and pulseaudio too). Replace well-known
528			things that are not broken with something obscure and clunky that thinks
529			it's smarter than you.
530
531			[https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9170111&cid=52207557]
532			%
533	root	1.443	Systemd is a cancer and it will keep spreading until the host is
534			dead. Just like cancer it's not malicious, it sincerely believes it knows
535			better than the healthy cells it's infecting, but that doesn't make it
536			less lethal.
537
538			[https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9552479&cid=52745591]
539			%
540	root	1.442	From: Richard Stallman
541
542			[...]
543
544			> then that sounds like a layering violation.
545
546			The layering authority has no jurisdiction over GNU.
547			If this solution works, and nobody proposes a better one,
548			we won't let "layering" get in the way.
549			%
550	root	1.470	"Teyrnas Unedig Prydain Fawr a Gogledd Iwerddon" shortened to "Teyrnas
551			Unedig" or "Y Deyrnas Unedig" abbreviated "DU", or "Rìoghachd Aonaichte
552			Bhreatainn is Èireann a Tuath" shortened to "Rìoghachd Aonaichte" are
553			also now legal names for the UK.
554	root	1.441
555			[Brian Inglis in 774ac519-ceb1-7c04-d2b5-2f2ed851cb61@SystematicSw.ab.ca]
556			%
557			From: Russ Allbery
558			To: tz@iana.org
559			Message-ID: <87h97n58bp.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>
560
561			> Companies are unlikely to change their processes unless changes break
562			> existing processes (like the version change) or changes are documented
563			> in an RFC, which can be presented to SOx auditors and their ilk, to
564			> document and justify why they spent money and changed a process, along
565			> with the documentation on change impact including budget,
566			> authorizations, and the dozens of other side efforts of production
567			> changes, summarized above by DG as "That doesn’t work for everyone."
568
569			A bit of a digression, but the way companies treat free software projects
570			and maintainers is a pet peeve of mine.
571
572			It should be obvious that the only people a company can expect to follow
573			any of those rules are people the company is paying or otherwise has a
574			contractual relationship with that requires following those rules.
575			Otherwise, the company should be prepared to pay one of their employees to
576			jump through those hoops if they want those hoops jumped through.
577
578			It's standard practice for companies who depend heavily on a free software
579			project to have an internal maintainer or advocate for that free software
580			project who will translate whatever the public maintainer does into the
581			form that the company needs to manage it internally, including maintaining
582			private branches as needed, pulling up unreleased patches as needed, and
583			adjusting for upstream changes that don't match the needs of the company
584			(or clearly advocating for compromises or modifications that work for the
585			entire community). This is a cost of doing business. My employer
586			certainly does this for free software we use. It's fairly normal.
587
588			Some companies don't want to spend that money, and try to do it on the
589			cheap by not having that person or the mechanisms for importing free
590			software properly. A few of them then complain at the free software
591			maintainer when they run into problems. But those complaints should not
592			carry any more weight than the complaints of any other user, and should be
593			weighed against the work style, goals, and available time of the free
594			software maintainer. After all, the actor in this situation that has (by
595			far) the most resources and hence the most ability to adopt to changes,
596			whether they want to or not, is the company, not the free software
597			maintainer.
598			%
599	root	1.440	[About the Unicode CLDR (Common Locale Data Repository) project, specifically, timezone names]
600
601			They also seem to think that abbreviations should be only used locally,
602			such as "BST" only being used by British English. One would think that if
603			an American was talking about DST in the UK they would also use the term
604			"BST", but no:
605			http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8498
606			%
607			To: Time zone mailing list <tz@iana.org>
608			Subject: Re: [tz] Request regarding IANA update for Novosibirsk Time Zone
609
610			Shruthi Venkataramanan -X (shruthve - WIPRO LIMITED at Cisco) wrote:
611			> When can we expect the updated version
612
613			About three weeks ago.
614			%
615	root	1.439	[...] trying to make digital files uncopyable is like trying to make water
616			not wet. -- Bruce Schneier
617			%
618			[...] in order to be a good Christian one must first be a great hypocrite.
619
620			[http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.de/2013/06/the-bible-is-nothing-but-hearsay.html]
621			%
622	root	1.438	Know that you suck, you suck so much that you suck the future you wich
623			was able to go back in time to suck you from the past. You are an
624			neverending paradoxial loop of suckage. Now suck the fuck off.
625
626			[http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/vats-vs-rtwp.23266/page-2]
627			%
628			From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
629
630			Arthur David Olson <arthurdavidolson@gmail.com> writes:
631
632			> From The Economist: "Why time may be running out for the leap second"
633			[http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/11/economist-explains-4]
634
635			\| The first is simple, ancient and intuitive, and based on the rotation of
636			\| the Earth, under which each complete rotation (or, equivalently, each of
637			\| the Sun's apparent trips through the sky) counts as one day.
638
639			Of course, these are actually not equivalent; they're different by a
640			full day per year.
641			%
642	root	1.437	Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir
643			de la faire plus courte. -- Blaise Pascal, Provincial Letters : Letter XVI.
644			[I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time.]
645			%
646			File names are infinite in length where infinity is set to 255 characters.
647			-- Peter Collinson, "The Unix File System"
648			%
649			Over the past 20 years - its never been a question of the "perfect
650			storage media vendor" - its been a question of "who has screwed
651			me - lately?".
652			-- JSS, former Amiga HW Engineer, Rework tech of 400,000 defective
653			Seagate HDD's, Class of '94.
654
655			[http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1095235&cid=26492885]
656			%
657			I also proposed making malloc(0) perfectly fine, since zero is a perfectly
658			fine value. I also, in the same letter, proposed making zero-sized
659			arrays legal, mostly so you could do the extend-the-struct trick for a
660			variable-sized array as the last field of the struct.
661
662			I got two letters back as answer to my one. #1: Malloc(0) shouldn't work
663			because zero-sized arrays don't work. #2: Zero-sized arrays shouldn't work
664			because malloc(0) doesn't work. Well played, ANSI C committee, and may
665			your lives be a living hell.
666
667			[Rob Pike in https://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=4142#c2]
668			%
669	root	1.436	Using a screwdriver was not a normal part of the experimental protocol.
670			[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Slotin#Criticality_accident]
671			%
672			Newbie: Hi. I've been using Lisp for about half a year now, programming
673			for three years. I discovered this group and wondered if you could help me
674			out with a problem I'm having?
675
676			Smug: Hi! Always glad to have new blood. Sure thing, just ask.
677
678			Snide: Heya New! You bet, ask anything and we'll try to help.
679
680			Newbie: Okay, I'm trying to filter a list, something like Perl's grep. I
681			want to set up a predicate and have the new list be only those elements
682			from the old list that satisfy it. I know there's some standard idiom for
683			doing this, I just can't find it anywhere...
684
685			Smug: Perl's grep was inspired by Lisp's higher-order functions, you know. :)
686
687			Newbie: Oh, cool. :)
688
689			Smug: But it's inferior since it has balky syntax.
690
691			Snide: You can do it with (mapcan (lambda (item) (when (predicate item) (list item))) list).
692			[http://c2.com/]
693			%
694			Unfortunately a Russian spy stole the last meg of a LISP program for
695			controlling our nuclear defense systems. Fortunately, it was all
696			right-parenthesis.
697			[http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhyWeHateLisp]
698			%
699			Always wanted to travel back in time to try fighting a younger version of
700			yourself?
701			Software development is the career for you!
702
703			[https://twitter.com/Loh/status/411282297816498176]
704			%
705	root	1.435	[...] undisguised clarity is easily mistaken for arrogance.
706			-- Richard Dawkins
707			%
708			There are many choices of elliptic-curve signature systems. The standard
709			choice, ECDSA, is reasonable if you don't care about simplicity, speed,
710			and security.
711
712			[http://blog.cr.yp.to/20140323-ecdsa.html]
713			%
714			[In answer to: "Is the NSA aware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS? The RSA?"]
715
716			We are unaware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS when properly implemented and
717			used for the purposes for which they both are designed.
718			-— National Security Agency, June 1992
719			%
720			In the past decade there have been many attacks against TLS. With the
721			exception of CRIME, not one of them relied on any results that were not
722			known at the time the TLS 1.0 standard was being written. [...] Every time
723			this standards group has had a choice to make regarding cryptography,
724			they have made the wrong one. [...] Were TLS to be submitted by an
725			undergraduate as a solution to this problem it would earn an F.
726
727			[http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg10598.html]
728			%
729			tiny hsv2rgb
730			float3 h2r(float h,float s,float v){return lerp(saturate((abs(frac(h+float3(1,2,3)/3)6-3)-1)),1,s)v;}
731
732			vec3 hsv(float h,float s,float v) {
733			return mix(vec3(1.),clamp((abs(fract(h+vec3(3.,2.,1.)/3.)6.-3.)-1.),0.,1.),s)v;
734			}
735			%
736			Haha, no FPS counter but rather a "Next frame"-button :)
737			Only Java makes it possible!
738
739			[http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=7920&page=1]
740			%
741			'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and
742			generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is
743			extremely poettering''
744			%
745			"There is no use in arguing with a man who can multiply anything by the square root of minus 1."
746			-- Pirates of Venus, Edgar Rice Burroughs
747			%
748			"I drank what?!"
749			-- Socrates
750			%
751			It would be bad for OpenPGP to have a standard that could not be
752			implemented on light bulbs (I used to say cell phones, but they're now
753			400MHz devices), forcing the light bulb people to use something else.
754
755			Jon Callas in
756			http://www.imc.org/ietf-openpgp/mail-archive/msg06396.html
757			%
758			"If you have four groups working on a compiler, you'll get a 4-pass compiler."
759			-- Conway's Law
760			%
761			The mac version doesn't work on older versions of the operating system
762			(this is part of Apple's planned obsolescence hellhole; the latest version
763			of xcode won't build for older systems but I'm forced to update to it
764			because the older ones won't build for newer systems and I've been forced
765			to update the operating system on my ipad so UGH; basically I have to
766			have multiple xcode versions installed and I really can't be bothered
767			untangling this mess right now so).
768
769			[http://mightyvision.blogspot.de/2013/03/7drl-success-86856527.html]
770			%
771			Option "NoPM" "boolean"
772			Disables something to do with power management events. Default: PM
773			enabled on platforms that support it.
774			[xorg.conf(5)]
775			%
776			> Yes, this would be something _in addition_ to what the FSF does.
777			> Grant money could be used to hire one or two fresh graduates that
778			> would work on code.
779
780			Graduates in which discipline? Computer science? This sounds to me
781			like the idea to hire one or two fresh graduates in English literature
782			and language with the idea to let them start writing novels.
783			[87liaj740v.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org]
784			%
785	root	1.434	[and that's why I don't support gentoo anymore]
786			As with Francois, I used to use ccache for recompiling packages that
787			hadn’t finished the first time — but for a different reason. At
788			the time, I had overrated memory, and a BIOS without a memory clock
789			option. The system was generally fine, but once in awhile would scramble
790			a memory transfer enough to cause a crash. CCache was a LOT of help in
791			that instance, as it’s what allowed me to even install Gentoo at all —
792			there’s no way I could have gotten thru gcc, (monolitic) X, glibc, or
793			the then unsplit KDE compiles, without it.
794			%
795			Kay, you are so full of sh*t that it's not funny. You're refusing to
796			acknowledge your bugs, you refuse to fix them even when a patch is
797			sent to you, and then you make excuses for the fact that we have to
798			work around your bugs, and say that we should have done so from the
799			very beginning.
800			[Linus in http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1369384]
801			%
802			systemd creates user session information in
803			/run/user/$user . I brought up with lennart the fact that this would
804			only permit one session per user. He rejected out of hand the fact
805			that more than one session would ever be needed, because Gnome only
806			allowed one session per user.
807			[http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/04/msg00751.html]
808			%
809	root	1.433	> Mailman archives! IIRC Heiko mentioned that there are more disputes
810			> about Lennart Poettering and his software on ALL mailing lists, than
811			> about anything else.
812			>
813			> Why is it like that?
814
815			Probably because he has all the arrogance of DJB but none of the skill.
816
817			[http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/44574]
818			%
819			[from a discussion about GNOME 3 "branding" mentality]
820
821			>> However, there are a number of serious problems:
822			>>
823			>> 1. Extensions break with every release. As Paolo said earlier, "This is
824			>> simply the result of not (yet) having a defined extension API." Yet this is
825			>> also part of the design: extensions specify versions of gnome-shell they
826			>> work with, so are trivially broken by new versions even if they might work.
827			>
828			> I don't think you understand well why this was designed this way.
829
830			That's the sort of thing people say to the judge of a serial killer.
831			The reasons don't matter for calling the results terrible.
832			%
833			(partial) Beaufort Table
834			Name # km/h (min) m/s (min)
835			Calm 0 0 0
836			Light Air 1 1.1 0.3
837			Light Breeze 2 5.6 1.6
838			Gentle Breeze 3 12 3.4
839			Moderate Breeze 4 20 5.5
840			Fresh Breeze 5 29 8
841			Strong Breeze 6 39 10.8
842			Moderate Gale 7 50 13.9
843			Fresh Gale 8 62 17.2
844			Strong Gale 9 75 20.8
845			%
846			"I have an open mind (I did consider voting liberal democrat once)."
847			- random imdb forum quote excerpt
848			%
849			"Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure
850			sign of a diseased mind." [Terry Pratchett]
851			%
852			The butcher who kills the baby to see how it comes apart did choose his
853			profession because of his sensitive soul. He chose it because death and
854			suffering, blood and gore, appeal to him. Dismembering the baby was always
855			on the cards.
856			%
857			[random comment from amule sources]
858			// trust noone ;-)
859			// lol, useless comment but made me lmao
860			// wtf you guys are weird.
861			%
862	root	1.432	Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid.
863			- Kin Hubbard
864			%
865			[random .sig]
866			I'm a muslim.
867
868			No I won't email you a bomb if you tick me off, but only because I don't know how to.
869			%
870			[...] don't do a double-take if you cuss in front of a woman. If she's read any
871			of the kernel code (notably arch/sparc/), she's heard of the word "fuck"
872			before.
873
874			[Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO]
875			%
876			<imho>
877
878			BASIC - fun! (For small programs at least.)
879			Smalltalk - fun! (Until you have to interact with anything else.)
880			Lisp - fun! (Until your eyeballs fall out from looking at too many parentheses.)
881			Arduino sketches - fun! (As long as they fit on one page.)
882
883			ObjC - sort of fun...once you understand 200 Cocoa classes.
884			Java - public static void not fun.
885			C++ - definitely not fun. STL seems like it should be fun but it isn't.
886			C - usually not fun.
887
888			What about modern scripting languages?
889
890			JavaScript - sort of fun! Until you have to deal with the DOM or various not-fun frameworks.
891			Ruby - fun! Until you try to do something with Rails.
892			Python - fun! Until you try to write a GUI app.
893
894			</imho>
895
896			[http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/2/]
897			%
898			"Die deutschen Zensoren------------------- --------------------------
899			Dummköpfe-------- -------------------------------------------"
900			%
901
902			* GFX_IS_DISPLAY_MODE_SUPPORTED
903			*
904			* This routine sets the specified display mode.
905
906			n = n%2 ? n : ++n;
907			[plan9, /sys/src/cmd/eqn/paren.c]
908			%
909			# The user is always right.
910			if test "${PATH_SEPARATOR+set}" != set; then
911			[autoconf]
912			%
913			from linux-2.6.37/fs/fcntl.c:
914
915			/*
916			* We need to detect attempts to do dup2() over allocated but still
917			* not finished descriptor. NB: OpenBSD avoids that at the price of
918			* extra work in their equivalent of fget() - they insert struct
919			* file immediately after grabbing descriptor, mark it larval if
920			* more work (e.g. actual opening) is needed and make sure that
921			* fget() treats larval files as absent. Potentially interesting,
922			* but while extra work in fget() is trivial, locking implications
923			* and amount of surgery on open()-related paths in VFS are not.
924			* FreeBSD fails with -EBADF in the same situation, NetBSD "solution"
925			* deadlocks in rather amusing ways, AFAICS. All of that is out of
926			* scope of POSIX or SUS, since neither considers shared descriptor
927			* tables and this condition does not arise without those.
928			*/
929			%
930			Taken straight out of lilo... This way of intermixing case with if (0)
931			was new to me:
932
933			switch(c)
934			{
935			case 'x': base=16; type \|= 4; if(0) {
936			case 'o': base= 8; type \|= 4; } if(0) {
937			case 'u': base=10; type \|= 4; } if(0) {
938			case 'd': base=-10; }
939			switch(type)
940			{
941			case 0: val=va_arg(ap, short); break;
942			case 1: val=va_arg(ap, int); break;
943			case 2: val=va_arg(ap, long); break;
944			case 4: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned short); break;
945			case 5: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned int); break;
946			case 6: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned long); break;
947			default:val=0; break;
948			}
949			cp = __numout(val,base);
950			if(0) {
951			case 's':
952			cp=va_arg(ap, char *);
953			}
954			%
955			Also, it is not true that UTC-1 is THE civilian time scale. While it
956			is certainly one, physical seconds are as enshrined in law as UTC
957			timestamps. Try arguing that you weren't caught speeding at midnight
958			at the end of the year because the calculation should have used an
959			extra second and see how far you get :-)
960			[Nick Maclaren, in <8ta60d$aq6$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>]
961			%
962			> > Actually it's not fully backward compatible. As I was just reminded, the
963			> > libc `sync' function, which is what the fileutils sync uses (sync is in
964			> > fileutils, not sh-utils), is backward-compatible and thus not synchronous
965			> > (it passes a zero wait flag in file_syncfs).
966			>
967			> Hmm. Hurd sync should use the libc sync function too; it should not
968			> set the wait flag. If it does, that's a bug.
969
970			It must be a confusing feature, because the code was written by the
971			infamous Michael I. Bushnell (may he rest in peace), who did not write bugs.
972
973			[from a random discussion about hurd, 199901032206.RAA27962@baalperazim.frob.com]
974			%
975			It is immediately apparent from these figures that moving-arm disks
976			should never be used, neither for paging applications nor for any other
977			heavy-traffic auxiliary memory applications.
978
979			Peter J. Denning -- Virtual Memory (1970)
980
981			http://portal.acm.org/ft_gateway.cfm?id=356573&type=pdf&coll=portal&dl=ACM&CFID=15151515&CFTOKEN=6184618
982			%
983			(i was impatient to bikeshed with diego on code indenting... btw this
984			whole indentation rules/enforcement should gone, it's nonsense, i dont
985			know any coder who uses consistent indentation over all his code... only
986			beginner programmers do, sometimes. if anyone wants to read the code in
987			nice indentation, he can anytime run a code formatter with his favourite
988			settings)
989
990			http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2011-January/104674.html
991			%
992			How do I deal with memory leaks?
993
994			By writing code that doesn't have any. [...]
995
996			[From Bjarne Stroustrup's C++ Style and Technique FAQ]
997			%
998			This kind of arguments doesn't really make sense for Fedora. We should
999			ship the best implementation, not the most "tried and true" one.
1000
1001			http://www.devheads.net/linux/fedora/development/libjpeg-f14.htm
1002			%
1003			The situation in the US: If you do anything before 2067 to preserve the
1004			recording on a wax-cylinder from 1895, the terrorists win. Do you really
1005			hate hard-working American families that much? Thank God Senator Orrin
1006			Hatch and the RIAA love America's children more than you do.
1007
1008			The situation in Europe: Sound recordings up to 1960 are already in the
1009			public domain. The terrorists have won. Our only hope of restoring the
1010			justice of eternal and infinite copyright (and therefore saving our own
1011			children's lives!) lies in the selfless efforts of the likes of Bono and
1012			Cliff Richard, as they cry all the way to the bank about artists not being
1013			rewarded for their creativity.
1014
1015			Let's hope that by the time you finish reading this sentence, copyright
1016			will have been extended another 99 years... you know, to justly compensate
1017			that bloke sitting by a mic in 1895. If he'd thought that in 2066
1018			librarians would be able to copy his recording without his permission, he
1019			would never have made it in the first place.
1020
1021			http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52573
1022			%
1023			"I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in
1024			future understand things" -- Jörg Schilling
1025			%
1026			Nobody has bought freaking 160GB of music from the iTunes store. I figured
1027			it out once, conservatively it was like $53,000 of music. And yet somehow
1028			Apple has managed to sell tens of millions of iPods with up to 160GB
1029			capacity, and even the smaller iPods would cost many thousands of dollars
1030			to fill from the iTunes store. The iPod was worthwhile because of piracy.
1031
1032			http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/09/intels-walled-garden-plan-to-put-av-vendors-out-of-business.ars?comments=1#comment-20806800
1033			%
1034			"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
1035			Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
1036			- Mohandas Gandhi
1037			%
1038			"And so I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
1039			the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the
1040			handiwork of the Lord."
1041			- Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" Vol. I, chapter 2, Murphy Ed. (p. 46)
1042			%
1043			Scientific Scrutiny and Disclosure
1044
1045			I was wondering how anyone possibly could conclude from this exchange that
1046			Lenski was hiding something. I came to the conclusion that some people
1047			must not understand how scientific scrutiny works. I wrote a guide.
1048
1049			Scientific scrutiny works like this:
1050			Scientist A publishes results.
1051
1052			Scientist B: A, I tried duplicating your experiment, but parameters x, y,
1053			and z that I need were not in your article. I need you to disclose to me
1054			x, y, and z that you used at the time. What are they?
1055
1056			A: x, y, and z are such and such.
1057			B: Using x, y, and z, my result doesn't agree with yours at all. Are you
1058			sure you did the procedures that you claimed?
1059			A: ...
1060			B: You fraud!
1061
1062			Scientific scrutiny does not work like this:
1063
1064			A publishes results.
1065
1066			B: I have Generic Skepticism toward your article. Under code viii of the
1067			Publication Criteria, I demand that you give me all of your data!
1068			A: ... ok...? It seems that everything you would need is already in the
1069			article. Did you have something specific in mind?
1070			B: A has refused to attach all data he has ever used for the
1071			experiment. He is withholding information and thus hiding something.
1072
1073			-- Carafe 01:42, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
1074			[http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservapedia:Lenski_affair_talk_1]
1075			%
1076			[regarding sites requesting visitors to allow advertisements and not block
1077			them because they need the money to operate]
1078
1079			"The readers are not the customer. The customer is the advertiser, and the
1080			readers are the product which that website promises to deliver. But the
1081			readers, being the product and not the customer, have no obligation to the
1082			site or its bottom line."
1083			%
1084			"..but a short time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of
1085			the Jewish religion before his principles were departed from by those
1086			who professed to be his special servants, & perverted into an engine for
1087			enslaving mankind, and aggrandizing their oppressors in church & state:
1088			that the purest system of morals ever before preached to man has been
1089			adulterated & sophisticated, by artificial constructions, into a mere
1090			contrivance to filch wealth & power to themselves, that rational men not
1091			being able to swallow their impious heresies, in order to force them down
1092			their throats, they raise the hue & cry of infidelity, while themselves
1093			are the greatest obstacles to the advancement of the real doctrines of
1094			Jesus, and do in fact constitute the real Anti-Christ."
1095			– Thomas Jefferson to William Baldwin, 19 January 1810 (draft – never sent)
1096			%
1097			Ignorance is the state of not having the data.
1098
1099			Idiocy is the state of having the data, but not being able to process it.
1100
1101			Willful ignorance is the state of censoring out all data you don’t want to hear.
1102			%
1103			["only those parts in the bible I like are authentic"]
1104
1105			>>>> but doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support slavery, genocide,
1106			>>>> and the beating of children?
1107			>>>
1108			>>> Subjugation of women...
1109			>>
1110			>> "doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support ..." Only for bible
1111			>> literalists and those who ignore what Jesus himself taught. By all
1112			>> means call out any religious person who is acting immorally but try to
1113			>> understand that the rest of us who are trying to follow the Way as best
1114			>> as we can don't usually have the clout to wrestle the Falwells and the
1115			>> Robertsons and their ilk to the ground. If we can agree on that, then,
1116			>> shake partner.
1117			>
1118			> Ever read Matthew 5:31-32? Jesus said it and taught it.
1119			>
1120			> He says my wife is an adultress since she divorced her 1st husband all
1121			> on account of her not taking his punches and kicks with good-natured
1122			> humor. That "pearl of wisdom" also says that I'm an adulterer for
1123			> choosing to spend the rest of my life with her.
1124			>
1125
1126			As written, it seems pretty clear. Until you remember the book of matthew
1127			was written decades after Jesus's death based on memories and oral
1128			traditions, not to mention translation inaccuracies and ulterior motives
1129			of the writers. No one really knows what Jesus really said or what he
1130			really meant. It could all be wildly inacurrate. I think the fault is in
1131			those who would use those words to justify their shabby treatment of you
1132			and your wife.
1133			%
1134			Atheists care about religion for the same reason other people care about
1135			cancer. If you aren't careful, it will kill you, and if you are, it could
1136			still kill you. - arestheblue
1137			%
1138			Once upon a time there was the CAT working group whose name was an
1139			abbreviation for "Common Authentication Technology". It produced IETF
1140			specifications for GSS-API.
1141
1142			It was succeeded by the kitten working group, which has been working on
1143			the next-generation GSS-API specifications.
1144
1145			There is now a proposal for a MOGGIES working group, which will work on
1146			Mechanisms Of Generating Generically Interoperable & Effective Security.
1147
1148			[http://fanf.livejournal.com/?style=mine]
1149			%
1150			[from the minix 3 users guide]
1151
1152			ELLE is a simple and clear text editor (once you've figured out the key commands).
1153			%
1154			[Tips how to deal with complaints when running TOR exit nodes]
1155
1156			During the conversation make sure you explain a few points:
1157			[...]
1158			You are not insane. You may be insane, but we don't want the
1159			complaintant to guess this is true.
1160			%
1161			"One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code."
1162			- Ken Thompson.
1163			%
1164			http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-01-16-50-Math-Project-released.html
1165
1166			"Scientific calculations are becoming a reality in Syllable"
1167
1168			Dunning-Kruger at its best - the tool that "carries Syllable to
1169			universities" can calculate sine and cosine values of integer inputs...
1170			source code excerpt:
1171
1172			int sn()
1173			{
1174			char pwr;
1175
1176			int input1 = 0;
1177			double output1 = 0;
1178
1179			system("clear");
1180			cout<<"This is the Sin() calculator, please enter a number"<<endl;
1181			cin>>input1;
1182			output1 = (sin(input1));
1183			cout<<"Sin() of"<< input1<<" is: "<<output1<<endl;
1184			cout<<"Please press 'a' for recalculate or 'm' to return to main menu"<<endl;
1185			cin>>pwr;
1186			if(pwr == 'a')
1187			sq();
1188			if(pwr == 'm')
1189			system("pause");
1190
1191			}
1192			%
1193			It allows a web browser and a web server to have a persistent, two-way
1194			full-duplex connection using just one TCP connection.
1195
1196			[mind-boggling, they provide TCP features with just TCP!!!11]
1197
1198			http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-02-22-16-WebSockets-for-Cheyenne-web-server.html
1199			%
1200			From the "my window manager is boiling bullshit, so you have to fix your
1201			app for me" department:
1202
1203			From: Evan LeCompte
1204
1205			Myself and many other members of the Archlinux community (and anyone using
1206			Linux with a tiling window manager for that matter) humbly beg you (the
1207			developers) for a single-windowed version of GIMP.
1208			%
1209			"I will give you credit for having balls. In spite of your comments being
1210			a PR ploy based on biased views, you consistently imply that we're just
1211			indulging in a PR ploy based on biased views."
1212
1213			http://tamino.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/old-news/
1214			%
1215			"We do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone ...
1216			Folks who want porn can buy an Android phone"
1217			– Steve Jobs[47]
1218
1219			"We can’t adapt European magazines to the standards of Utah."
1220			– Mathias Müller von Blumencron (editor of Der Spiegel, warning that
1221			the news magazine would not alter its content for the App Store)
1222			%
1223			The naked truth of it is, I have no shirt.
1224			-- William Shakespeare, "Love's Labour's Lost"
1225			%
1226			Subject: [Gimp-user] Completely off every imaginable topic;)
1227			From: Patrick Horgan
1228			Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:13:38 -0800
1229			To: GIMP Users <gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU>
1230
1231			Have you ever noticed that people's progress in using, supporting,
1232			writing bug reports for, and sometimes even developing for, writing
1233			documentation for, or translating for open source software is paralleled
1234			by their progress from top-posting to bottom posting to interlinear
1235			posting, to intelligent elision with interlinear posting? I see it on
1236			the gimp, and on other lists all the time.
1237
1238			[...]
1239			%
1240	root	1.431	"Logic has made me hated among men"
1241			— Peter Abelard
1242			%
1243			A man said to the universe:
1244			"Sir I exist!"
1245			"However," replied the universe,
1246			"The fact has not created in me
1247	root	1.432	A sense of obligation."
1248			- Steven Crane
1249	root	1.431	%
1250			He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool; avoid him.
1251
1252			He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a student; teach him.
1253
1254			He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep; wake him.
1255
1256			He who knows and knows that he knows is a wise man; follow him.
1257
1258			– Sanskrit Saying
1259			%
1260			[anonymised discussion]
1261			AGW-Denialist: ... blabla ... Karl Hopper ... blabla ... falsification ...
1262			Scientist: Karl Hopper, eh? You're like the energizer bunny of wrong.
1263			%
1264			[http://www.opengl.org/registry/specs/NV/render_texture_rectangle.txt]
1265
1266	root	1.432	Additions to the WGL Specification
1267	root	1.431
1268			First, close your eyes and pretend that a WGL specification actually
1269			existed. Maybe if we all concentrate hard enough, one will magically
1270			appear.
1271			%
1272			"All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust,
1273			sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others."
1274			- Douglas Adams
1275			%
1276			I like how whether a German is a "skinhead" or a "pussy", he's still considered a typical German.
1277			[http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=21884]
1278			%
1279	root	1.462	"A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will
1280			lose both, and deserve neither" -- Thomas Jefferson
1281	root	1.431	%
1282			"This is a further proof of the skill of astronomers
1283			in fitting a straight line to a circle!"
1284			- footnote in "OUR BEST FRIEND, THE COMA CLUSTER"
1285			http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Biviano/Biviano_contents.html
1286			%
1287			Am Grunde eines Problems sitzt immer ein Deutscher (Voltaire)
1288			%
1289			"I'm Prime Minister of Canada, I live here and I'm going to take a leak."
1290			- Lester Pearson in 1967, during a meeting between himself and
1291			President Lyndon Johnson, whose Secret Service detail had taken over
1292			Pearson's cottage retreat. At one point, a Johnson guard asked
1293			Pearson, "Who are you and where are you going?"
1294			%
1295			It's a known fact that not a single competent, experienced, skilled
1296			programmer in the world uses an IDE, nor has used one at any point in his
1297			or her career.
1298			[http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl/?node_id=636318]
1299			%
1300			It was stated that WIMPs and MACHOs were in the category of particle known
1301			as "Fabricated Ad hoc Inventions Repeatedly Invoked in Efforts to Defend
1302			Untenable Scientific Theories" (FAIRIE DUST).
1303			%
1304			I LOVE YOU
1305			["authentication succeeded" protocol token used by cvs pserver]
1306			%
1307			General consensus seems to be 2.6.18 is where the manure intersected with
1308			the air impeller.
1309
1310			Alan Cox
1311			%
1312			"I'm being elitist: awesome 3 is designed for power users
1313			with a minimum computer science background."
1314			%
1315			From: Eric Sosman
1316			Newsgroups: comp.std.c
1317			Subject: Re: about graphics
1318
1319			prince wrote:
1320			> how to get command over graphics in c language?
1321
1322			#include <stdio.h>
1323			int main(void) {
1324			puts("graphics\rcommand");
1325			return 0;
1326			}
1327			%
1328			I tried the Vista speech recognition by running the tutorial. I was
1329			amazed, it was awesome, recognised every word I said. Then I said the
1330			wrong word ... and it typed the right one. It was actually just
1331			detecting a sound and printing the expected word! -- pbhj on /.
1332			%
1333			[Bodo Moeller in http://groups.google.com/group/sci.crypt/msg/e79e65ed9077d0ba]
1334
1335	root	1.471	While the 2^128 step search [takes] a very long time indeed,
1336	root	1.431	it still is a constant-time attack.
1337			%
1338			"Verleumdung mußt Du frech betreiben, es wird schon etwas hängenbleiben!"
1339			-- Karl Joseph Simrock
1340			%
1341			From: David Damerell
1342
1343			Quoting Epic Campaigns <NoS...@NoSpamMe.com>:
1344			>Because C# is case sensitive, you can use the same name with different
1345			>caps to make it different.
1346
1347			Alternatively you could set your nose hair on fire, which will also be
1348			painful but will take less typing.
1349			%
1350			Well, I think comparing Common Lisp to Scheme is prima facie evidence
1351			of ill will, even if Common Lisp wins. It is somewhat like a supposed
1352			compliment like "man, you are even smarter than George W. Bush".
1353
1354			Erik Naggum in 3231422371368070@naggum.net
1355			%
1356			From: Hans-Jürgen Koch
1357
1358			> The GPL places additional restrictions on code. It is therefore less
1359			> free than the BSD.
1360			>
1361			> Free code + restrictions = non-free code.
1362
1363			The legal restriction that people must not enter your house uninvited
1364			by smashing the door adds to your freedom, don't you think so?
1365			%
1366			[C++ doesn't have the monopoly on hard-to-read diagnostics]
1367
1368			State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘(void ()(struct CoroSLF , struct CV *,
1369			struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
1370			from incompatible pointer type
1371			State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 3 of ‘(void ()(struct CoroSLF , struct CV *,
1372			struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
1373			makes pointer from integer without a cast
1374			State.xs:1927: error: too few arguments to function ‘(void ()(struct CoroSLF ,
1375			struct CV , struct SV *, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
1376			%
1377			The idea that governments have rights is absurd. People have rights. The
1378			people have delegated certain tasks to government for their own
1379			convenience, and have accepted limits on some minimal subset of their
1380			rights so that society can best protect the rest. Note that "society" is
1381			not the same as "the government"; the government is just a mechanism used
1382			by society to accomplish certain specific things.
1383
1384			[Chandon Seldon]
1385			%
1386			[Wikipedia]
1387			Differences between vi and Emacs
1388
1389			The neutrality of this article is disputed.
1390			%
1391			[lost the reference]
1392			Remember that openssl is generally the upper
1393			bound on how difficult a library can be to use.
1394			%
1395			"Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it's pointless
1396			to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and
1397			elitist. No novices asking stupid questions."
1398			%
1399			[aol 4tw, messages are edited for readability]
1400
1401			Subject: Re: fcrack help
1402			From: puezalb024@aol.com
1403			Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:27:46 -0500
1404			To: schmorp@schmorp.de
1405			X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
1406
1407			well how about making the manual more accessable u fukin cumtwat. take
1408			ur shitty software n shove it homo. this program sux anyway. i wouldnt
1409			have to read a manual if you actually knew how to create a good piece of a
1410			working program you stupid fuck. n let me tell you thats a good way to get
1411			your name out there or your software, just tel the customer their wrong,
1412			yeah, thatll work. may you rot in piss, if your head was on fire i would
1413			piss on your leg.
1414
1415			?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
1416			maybe you should go to school and learn how to spell cuz who the fuck
1417			spells marK with a c? musta been a baby of a couple retards
1418
1419			[then, a day later]
1420
1421			Subject: Re: fcrack help
1422			From: puezalb024@aol.com
1423			Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:02:20 -0500
1424			To: schmorp@schmorp.de
1425			X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
1426
1427			just kno that your an idiot. dont be mad at me cuz your mommy n daddy cant
1428			aford to buy you aol, its not my problem. like anyone is going to read
1429			your stupid post anyway.. noone likes your program, how about you read the
1430			previous posts n then we'll see. so you just keep sitting in your basement
1431			all by your lonesome?wasting your time making useless software buddy, cuz
1432			quiet frankly i could give 2 shits. oh yeah if you plan on posting my
1433			response make sure you dont edit nothing and include ALL of my response u
1434			fucking nerd. why dont you put it on ur myspace as well, print up a couple
1435			copies n post em on your walls too buddy
1436
1437
1438			-----Original Message-----
1439			From: Marc Lehmann <schmorp@schmorp.de>
1440			To: puezalb024@aol.com
1441			Sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 2:17 am
1442			Subject: Re: fcrack help
1443
1444
1445
1446			On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 07:27:46PM -0500, puezalb024@aol.com wrote:
1447	root	1.432	>
1448	root	1.431	> ?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
1449
1450			I was suspecting that aol users have, uhm, issues, but that's just hilarious :->
1451
1452			Note that I will publish your response so other people can share the fun,
1453			I hope you don't object :)
1454			%
1455			>Dummerweise steht es auch in der Welt der Wunder Zeitschrift und die ist
1456			>dafür bekannt Fakten zu liefern.
1457
1458			You made my day
1459			%
1460			[http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0810.1/2945.html]
1461
1462			Names are important. In fact, naming is often _more_ important than the
1463			implementation is. And that means that the implementation should follow
1464			the naming, or the implementation is wrong.
1465
1466			Linus
1467			%
1468			The ultimate hipocrisy is when people send you mails like this:
1469
1470			From: Christian Walde <mithaldu@yahoo.de>
1471
1472			I'll be utterly blunt now and ask this in advance: Are you being an asshole on purpose? If so, please just stop reading now and ignore a person trying t ...
1473
1474			[lots of kilobyte-sized single-line paragraphs omitted]
1475
1476			As too many people send me top- and fully-quoted
1477			emails, here is a guide on how to be considerate
1478			when sending emails to other people:
1479			http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
1480
1481			[which states to not use more than, say, 72 columns per line]
1482
1483			[mail quoted with permission btw.]
1484			%
1485			* k-god tries to think of the one mutt enhancement he'd like...
1486			<k-god> OK. Two. One: A backscratcher.
1487			<brendan> I believe muttng has one of those
1488			<k-god> Two: An implementation of the Internet Face Stab Protocol for MS Outlook lusers.
1489			<brendan> and I think outlook does that on its own :)
1490			%
1491			I had some issues though, functions like tmpfile() could only
1492			be used if run as administrator in windows.
1493
1494			Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <n.mavrogiannopoulos@gmail.com>
1495			%
1496			[on italy]
1497
1498			#24. fallingstones - 08-10 03:51
1499
1500			@youruncledarnell: First, sorry for my very bad English. Yes, the
1501			majority of Italians are totally idiot, otherwise the Prime Minister
1502			wouldn't be Silvio Berlusconi, and of course also the justice is not
1503			only politicized, but also spectacularized.
1504
1505			Not only. We've the only nation in all EU having a State-controlled
1506			corporation on copyright (SIAE). This corporation have also hated
1507			by a lot of artists, Italian and foreigner, 'cause the division of
1508			funds is "strange". If some of you can understand a lot of Italian, I
1509			suggest viewing an old service on Italian TV program "Report" talking
1510			on SIAE. You can read and viewing it on this url (sorry for long url)
1511
1512			http://www.report.rai.it/R2_popup_articolofoglia/0,7246,243%255E90082,00.html
1513
1514			Our legislation on copyright is basically on a law of 1943, approved
1515			during WWII by fascism and signed by the king. We're a Republic since
1516			1948 and our Costitution dislike fascism, but we've conserved all laws
1517			from fascism period.
1518
1519			We don't admit officially other copyright licenses, like GPL or CC,
1520			cause "legally" every creation would be registered in SIAE, giving to
1521			them all rights (also rights of persecuting uses not authorized). An
1522			author of a song can't authorize itself a pianist for playing his
1523			song. If the song is registered in SIAE (and if isn't, isn't legally
1524			created, and the author isn't recognized) the pianist MUST pay the
1525			royalties, that eventually will be refunded to him by the author (if
1526			they are accorded) when, after a lot of MONTHS, he receive it from
1527			SIAE.
1528
1529			We've also some laws against Freedom of Speech, for example our penal
1530			code include apology law, that pratically means you can't say why
1531			you consider wrong a penal law. People can ask (with a lot of signs)
1532			elections for deleting a law, but not for a penal law, or better can't
1533			explain why that law it's wrong and would be deleted. If you can't
1534			explain, you'll obviously will not found never other people signing
1535			your petition (and you need at least 500, and with a REAL signs, not
1536			electronic ones
1537
1538			#25. fallingstones - 08-10 03:52
1539
1540			Then, only parties have sufficient funds for these things, and we
1541			don't have a party sufficiently interested in freedom of speech
1542			(on internet and not). 'Cause limiting Freedom of Speech included
1543			CONTROL. We've the last western country in Freedom of Speech (at least
1544			based on Freedomhouse annual statistic), the only "Partly Free" in
1545			western country.
1546
1547			I'm so sorry for being Italian, for our very stupid justice, for our
1548			very bad country laws and on all for our very stupid prime minister,
1549			but trust me, I can assure you we don't be ALL so stupid. In last
1550			elections, with an absurd law on elections, other parties have been
1551			deleted from parliament. Now we've only two main coalitions, the
1552			Berlusconi's one and the Veltroni's one. All of them have approved
1553			laws against freedom on internet, and generally against technology
1554			innovations. For these reason, all the last governments are fascists,
1555			also the governments of "center-left".
1556
1557			Again, sorry you and all for my bad English. I hope you can understand.
1558
1559			If I can, I suggest Brokep creating a guide for using TOR, a little
1560			great program (and it's free) for surfing the net anonymously and
1561			without any restriction.
1562
1563			Brokep and all TPB staff, go forward forever. You're my personal myth,
1564			and the hope that good people using brain like you exists into the
1565			world.
1566
1567			Long life to the Bay, forever.
1568			Sorry for the long message and sorry if I'm using TOR, I hope you understand.
1569			Thank you for reading.
1570			%
1571			> > don't even attempt to compare the nvidia driver support to ati's craptacular drivers.
1572			>
1573			> don't even attempt to post a useful comment
1574
1575			How very ironic.
1576			%
1577			With or without religion, we would have good people doing good things and
1578			evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that
1579			takes religion."
1580
1581			--Steve Weinberg
1582			%
1583			http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/en/why-not-use_java.xhtml
1584			%
1585			[Kurt Roecks on his change that had totally broken openssl for two years in debian]
1586			[Folks, fix valgrind bugs in your code, not in other people's code,]
1587			[if you don't understand how valgrind works]
1588
1589			"I've ran all the regression test thru valgrind, using the memset()
1590			solves most of those. As far as I know, commenting out those 2 calls
1591			solved all the warnings valgrind reported."
1592			%
1593			[From: "H.Merijn Brand"]
1594			The more I (have to) work with java, the more I am convinced perl is
1595			the right tool for me.
1596			%
1597			[deliantra]
1598			02:58:42 [Kyle] my summoned pets ate my rod of show invisible
1599			%
1600			I pretend to work because the Soviet government pretends to pay me.
1601			%
1602			cerebro ~# fuser -km /wd_old
1603			/wd_old: 5270c 12266c 12274c 12275
1604			Suddenly the Dungeon collapses!! - You die...
1605			%
1606			From the CFA633 datasheet:
1607
1608			* Do not eat the LCD panel.
1609			%
1610			>> Well, in German there is no "sports" but just "Sport".
1611			>> So by that little S at the end of sports, you could tell it's English.
1612
1613			It's the same in English as it is in German; the little S at the end
1614			actually tells you it's American.
1615			%
1616			[better do not hire this programmer]
1617			From: Tony Jackson <tj76351@gmail.com>
1618			Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
1619			Subject: Avoiding dereference of NULL pointer
1620
1621			Hi
1622
1623			I'm quite new to C programming - I have more of a Java background: maybe
1624			someone here can advise me.
1625
1626			I'm nearly finishing a little program but it has some hard-to-find bugs
1627			that basically lead to a couple pointers sometimes being NULL at the
1628			wrong time. As it stands the program just bombs out when it tries to
1629			dereference the NULL, which obviously isn't good (especially when it
1630			happens with the customer looking on!!).
1631
1632			I don't think there's any serious problem to worry about, and what I'd
1633			like to do is be able to ignore the dereference attempt and just carry
1634			on - probably the next time round the loop the pointer will be OK. In
1635			Java, I'd put a try block around the main loop, and if we catch an
1636			exception then just jump back to the start of the main loop. What's the
1637			corresponding thing in C?
1638
1639			Thanks!
1640			%
1641			[from mozilla 1.7b sources]
1642
1643			// See bug 53763.
1644			nsCOMPtr<nsIViewManager> kungFuDeathGrip;
1645			nsIPresShell *shell = doc->GetShellAt(0);
1646			if (shell) {
1647			kungFuDeathGrip = shell->GetViewManager();
1648			%
1649			[the beginning, and most common codepath, of getpid() on my linux 2.6
1650			amd64 box in a program using glibc 2.3's pthreads. thats fucking cool]
1651
1652			0x000000300049af30 <getpid+0>: mov %fs:0x94,%edx
1653			0x000000300049af38 <getpid+8>: cmp $0x0,%edx
1654			0x000000300049af3b <getpid+11>: mov %edx,%eax
1655			0x000000300049af3d <getpid+13>: jle 0x300049af41 <getpid+17>
1656			0x000000300049af3f <getpid+15>: repz retq
1657			%
1658			(A lot of this OPM stuff seems to come straight from the twilight
1659			zone. It's normal to have error codes indicating that there was a disk
1660			error or that a network packet got garbled, but I'm sure Windows Vista
1661			must be the first OS in history to have error codes for things like
1662	root	1.462	"display quality too high").
1663	root	1.431
1664			[http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html]
1665			%
1666			Subject: Re: The right answer of -1^2 is?
1667
1668	root	1.432	> I don't think there's a real Right Way here other than reintroducing a
1669	root	1.431	> mechanism for explicitly signaling the grouping. Maybe parentheses? ;)
1670
1671			Nah. Use whitespace, like Fortress. Then you can distinguish between
1672
1673			x / y * z
1674
1675			and
1676
1677			x / y * z
1678
1679			That'll never cause problems, right? :)
1680
1681			(To be fair, I like Fortress. However, it did have some, er, unique
1682			design decisions.)
1683			%
1684			endergt:
1685			> snoofle:
1686			> > Every system (*nix, PC's, etc.) has a hex
1687			> > editor with a string-search capability - really not that hard if
1688			> > you understand what you are doing...
1689			>
1690	root	1.432	> Out of curiosity - what is the hex editor on a default Windows installation?
1691	root	1.431
1692	root	1.432	debug
1693	root	1.431	%
1694			C# is for people who want to have one arm strapped behind their back because it reduces the probability of making a mistake by 50%.
1695
1696			Java is for people who prefer to have the arm chopped off.
1697			%
1698			Steve Loughran: "The EU interop laws often come up in discussion, and they
1699			are interesting. They say that you are allowed to do reverse engineering
1700			for hardware interop. Not software: hardware."
1701
1702			Not sure what you're talking about, but Council Directive 91/250/EEC seems
1703			pretty clear to me (or as clear as legal texts can be to me...): "Article
1704			6 Decompilation
1705
1706			1. The authorization of the rightholder shall not be required where
1707			reproduction of the code and translation of its form within the meaning
1708			of Article 4 (a) and (b) are indispensable to obtain the information
1709			necessary to achieve the interoperability of an independently created
1710			computer program with other programs, provided that the following
1711			conditions are met: [...]"
1712			%
1713			http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/
1714			%
1715			Why Linux Sux ?
1716
1717			Easy .
1718			Security : most hackable operating systems are unix based .
1719			Portability : try installing unix on cutting edge hardware . bad luck it won`t work . install windows (the oldest) on any ... it will .
1720			Help : try get help for linux . after exploring tons of sites and forums the help you got is useless . for windows you just call them .
1721			Applications : we all know there are more and more on windows . linux will probably never get so many .
1722			GUI : we know how customisable is the windows gui . and how stable .
1723			Gaming : ...anyone got an ideea of a linux game that is really cool ?
1724			Cost : install linux as server ... it is free no ? but you have to pay a sysadmin . or learn a lot . buy a lot of books . using windows ... just click next . if you are not dumb you might make it secure too (reading help does HELP! ) .
1725			Virus : due to the fact that windows is so flexible it is logcal to have viruses . afterall the human body has more than a monkeys one .
1726			Stability : reboot windows 100 times by using the case button . perhaps a scandisk will appear . reboot linux ... ups kernel panic .
1727
1728			You don`t have money for OS ? Work ! Oh you hate miscrosoft and bill gates
1729			no ? Sure thing ... stupid and lazy people generally hate smart and hard
1730			working ones . Screw linux users .
1731			%
1732			19:26:03 <schmorp> did you know the us is officially metric? for over 100 years, too?
1733			19:26:27 -cfbot:#cf- [moerderer] it is also officially a democracy, go figure
1734			19:26:34 <schmorp> good point :)
1735			%
1736			> The Dell 30"...
1737
1738			It is big, but some of the reviews have not been so glowing, or rather,
1739			the glowing has been highly asymmetric.
1740			%
1741	root	1.432	Re: USA- an underdeveloped country with potentials
1742	root	1.431
1743			> > u don´t use your wealth with responsibility, you only think about yourself and shrug your shoulders with comments like, "we all have the same chance", I´m a selfmade man", "everyone has to take care of themselves".
1744	root	1.432	>
1745	root	1.431	> yeah, that's why your little brothers decided to save the world - including your grandparents' sorry asses - from hitler, because we think only of ourselves!
1746	root	1.432	>
1747	root	1.431	> your welcome, pinhead!
1748	root	1.432
1749	root	1.431	Even though I´m tired of hearing "we saved your a beep during ww2 I will respond.
1750
1751			1. Did you? Or did your great grandfathers? Maybe they were better?
1752			2. You came into the war very late, and that was strictly for buisness reasons. You need countries to trade with. The true hero in WW2 was actually Russia doing alot more then US ever did, not saying that I support Russia today.
1753			3. One good thing in the past doesn´t make up for bad things in your society today.
1754	root	1.432	4. With those retorics you will never learn anything from your own mistakes since you always can go back and talk about your effort 100 years ago.
1755	root	1.431	%
1756			[discussion about some changes in windows longhorn]
1757			Let's hope that some day Microsoft will catch up to what the
1758			public-domain tz code was doing back in 1986. (Good work, Arthur!)
1759			%
1760			ntfs ist dennoch für datei und ordnersicherheit zuständig.
1761
1762			Zum Beispiel unter Linux wenn man auf fat32 festplatten zugreifen will ist
1763			es kein problem, wenn man aber die festplatte auf ntfs convertiert hat,
1764			dann funktioniert dass nicht mehr der zugriff auf die festplatte.
1765
1766			Denn das ist die sicherheit vor zugriffen auf daten von anderen usern und
1767			anderen betriebssystemen.
1768
1769			Habe fat32 festplatte gehabt(zugriff von linux möglich) dann habe ich es
1770			auf ntfs umconvertiert und dann ging es nicht mehr.
1771
1772			habe nochmal in meinen unterlagen nachgeschlagen, haben erst ca. vor 3
1773			Wochen die Unterlagen vom Lehrer bekommen und ich sag nochmal, zittiere
1774			Lehrer: Fat32 sollte man heutzutage nicht mehr verwenden außer man hat
1775			Windows 98 und man möchte Dualbootkonfiguration erzielen. NTFS ist
1776			einfach für bessere Sicherheit zuständig.
1777
1778			Frage?
1779			Hast du Windows und Linux beides auf deinem Laptop oder Standpc?
1780			Wenn ja hattest du vorher eine fat32 festplatte?
1781			Hast du sie dann auf ntfs umconvertiert?
1782
1783			Freundlichen Grüße von Vista-Ultimate-Besitzer
1784			%
1785			"In this time of war against Osama bin Laden and the oppressive
1786			Taliban regime, we are thankful that OUR leader isn't the spoiled son
1787			of a powerful politician from a wealthy oil family who is supported by
1788			religious fundamentalists, operates through clandestine organizations,
1789			has no respect for the democratic electoral process, bombs innocents,
1790			and uses war to deny people their civil liberties." --The Boondocks
1791			%
1792			19:35:41 <elmex> dieses 'restore session' is soo sinnlos bei firefox
1793			19:35:54 <elmex> wenn die webseite die ihn gecrasht hat immer weieder crasht
1794			19:36:18 <schmorp> tja, bei mir restored er trotz einstellung nie etwas
1795			19:36:24 <schmorp> fragt sich wer mehr glück hat
1796			%
1797			What has happened is that Dave Winer got off a rant against JSON as
1798			reinventing XML's (and more specifically XML-RPC's) wheel:
1799
1800			God bless the re-inventers
1801
1802			Gotta love em, because there's no way they're going to stop breaking
1803			what works, and fixing what don't need no fixing
1804
1805	root	1.432	Crockford gets off a very pithy response:
1806	root	1.431
1807			The good thing about reinventing the wheel is that you can get a round
1808			one.
1809			%
1810			[rfc2665]
1811			The dot3StatsEtherChipSet object has now been deprecated.
1812			Implementation feedback indicates that this object is much more
1813			useful in theory than in practice.
1814			%
1815			15:40:51 <elmex> son buero is faszinierend
1816	root	1.432	15:41:08 <elmex> staendig hoerste leute seuftzen und jammern, und in 90% der faelle hats
1817	root	1.431	mit windows zu tun
1818			15:41:15 <elmex> oder mit software die dort laeuft
1819			15:41:37 <elmex> irgendwem is heut mrogen die mail inbox verloren gegangen
1820			15:41:47 <elmex> und hat sie dann wiedergefunden
1821			15:41:49 <elmex> irgendwie
1822			15:41:50 <elmex> irgendwo
1823	root	1.432	15:42:07 <elmex> achja, und backups gabs auch keine mehr, seit sich die passwoerter
1824	root	1.431	geaendert haben :->
1825			15:42:19 <elmex> (also seit wenigen tagen)
1826	root	1.432	15:47:10 <elmex> es ist auch erstaunlich wie wenig arbeit eigentlich so erledigt wird nach
1827	root	1.431	15:30
1828			15:47:48 <elmex> (mit ausnahmen)
1829			15:48:13 <elmex> aber 50-80% der zeit wird mit kommunikation verbracht
1830			%
1831			[http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=895394]
1832			The SparcStation2 technical docs recommend catting your /vmunix file to /dev/audio as a speaker test.
1833			If you go nearly deaf from the painful noise, then your speaker works.
1834			%
1835			http://www.azillionmonkeys.com/qed/optimize.html
1836
1837			Strictly for beginners
1838
1839			Techniques you might not be aware of if you have not been programming for the past 15 years of your life:
1840			[...]
1841			%
1842			http://tmbo.org/offensive/images/picpile/Welcome%20to%20paradise%21.jpg
1843			%
1844			17:34:47 <elmex> hab gehoert solaris soll GPL werden, oder zumindest denkt sun drueber nach :->:
1845			17:34:53 <schmorp> ja klar
1846			17:34:57 <schmorp> alles was lebenszeitende hat
1847			17:34:58 <schmorp> wird gpl
1848			17:35:02 <schmorp> weil sie denken, dann wirds übelreben
1849			17:35:05 <schmorp> bei mozilla hats auch gwekappt
1850			17:35:08 <elmex> hehe
1851			17:35:13 <schmorp> und die brrowserentwicklung unter linux locker ein jahr verzögert
1852			17:35:46 <elmex> dann kann joerd schilling ja endlich sein lieblings system entwickeln :-
1853			17:35:48 <elmex> :->
1854			17:35:58 <schmorp> macht er doch schon die ganze zeit
1855			17:36:02 <schmorp> chillingos, bzw.
1856			17:36:18 <elmex> uh
1857			17:36:53 <schmorp> ich finds nicht mehr
1858			17:36:57 <schmorp> er arbeitet jedenfalls dran
1859			17:38:27 <schmorp> SchilliX
1860			17:38:29 <schmorp> genau!
1861			17:38:30 <schmorp> :)
1862			17:38:33 <elmex> sueees
1863			17:38:34 <schmorp> http://developer.berlios.de/projects/schillix/
1864			17:39:59 <zaphod> omg das ist nicht wahr
1865			17:40:20 <schmorp> ihr kennt die geheimnisse und wunder unserer welt nicht
1866			17:40:32 <zaphod> das kann bestimmt CDs brennen wie nix anderes
1867			17:40:42 <elmex> lol
1868			17:41:06 <schmorp> :)
1869			%
1870			[A Gentoo User]
1871			First FreeBSD is UNIX. Yes FreeBSD runs beter then all other Linux
1872			distro’s but FreeBSD lacks any graphical features(stolen linux features
1873			doesn’t count) so it is only ment for guys with an old grey beards.
1874			[...] That’s why for geeks/nerds/professionals (like me) bsd exists [...]
1875			Gentoo is ment for professionals that need a system for a really exact
1876			environment and think LFS is to much work.
1877			[http://www.playingwithwire.com/2007/01/why-gentoo-shouldnt-be-on-your-server/]
1878			%
1879			20:08 <schmorp> my guess is, purely practically
1880			20:08 <schmorp> if copyright/patent law continues to go away from the original reasons
1881			20:08 <schmorp> that they were created for
1882			20:08 <schmorp> you will at one point have a civil war
1883			20:08 <schmorp> right now, you already have large-scale civil disobedience
1884	root	1.432	20:10 <scortch> i very much hope that it can be turned around before that happens. not the
1885			least reason is, in a Blade Runner dystopia, there isnt a lot that individuals
1886	root	1.431	can do
1887			20:11 <scortch> i.e. militarily
1888			20:11 <scortch> ah wait.
1889			20:12 <scortch> we are forgetting that low technology solutions are always around
1890			20:12 <schmorp> terrorism :)
1891			20:12 <schmorp> now i finally see the whole plot
1892			20:13 <scortch> that's quite a story
1893			%
1894			23:49 <ruskie> in my experience apart from a few exceptions all gentoo people are rude
1895	root	1.432	23:58 <Err> it seems logical that there is a strong correlation
1896			between (people who like to waste their time, and their computer's
1897			processing time, rebuilding things that have been built a million
1898	root	1.431	times before) and (idiots)
1899			23:58 <Err> (parenthesized for easy parsing ;-) )
1900	root	1.432	23:59 <Err> there are certainly exceptions to every rule - but in
1901			general, gentoo users think that they're getting magical properties
1902	root	1.431	out of rebuilding the same code everybody else builds
1903			%
1904			[http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/]
1905			Bruce Schneier decrypted the Bible. The plaintext read, "Bruce Schneier".
1906			%
1907			[http://www.mail-archive.com/cygwin-patches@cygwin.com/msg03644.html]
1908
1909			Internet Explorer: KB329781 "HTTP File Upload Operation Takes a Long Time
1910			to Complete". The printing subsystem: KB816627 "TCP/IP port printing may
1911			be slow in Windows 2000"
1912
1913			In the first KB microsoft amusingly states in relation to the fact that
1914			upload speed is limited to 80kbps no matter what the network bandwidth
1915			that "this behaviour is by design". The mind boggles...
1916			%
1917			[so much for type-safety]
1918			List<Integer> lst = new ArrayList<Integer>;
1919			lst.add(null);
1920			int x = 1 + lst.get(0);
1921			%
1922			[just for reference]
1923			Wenn man weiss, dass man in seinem Leben nicht mehr Glücklich werden
1924			kann, und sich von Tag zu Tag die Gründe dafür häufen, dann bleibt
1925			einem nichts anderes übrig als aus diesem Leben zu verschwinden. Und
1926			dafür habe ich mich entschieden. Es gibt vielleicht Leute die hätten
1927			weiter gemacht, hätten sich gedacht "das wird schon", aber das wird
1928			es nicht.
1929
1930			Man hat mir gesagt ich muss zur Schule gehen, um für mein leben zu
1931			lernen, um später ein schönes Leben führen zu können. Aber was bringt
1932			einem das dickste Auto, das grösste Haus, die schönste Frau, wenn es
1933			letztendlich sowieso für’n Arsch ist. Wenn deine Frau beginnt dich zu
1934			hassen, wenn dein Auto Benzin verbraucht das du nicht zahlen kannst, und
1935			wenn du niemanden hast der dich in deinem scheiss Haus besuchen kommt!
1936
1937			Das einzigste was ich intensiv in der Schule beigebracht bekommen habe
1938			war, das ich ein Verlierer bin. Für die ersten jahre an der GSS stimmt
1939			das sogar, ich war der Konsumgeilheit verfallen, habe danach gestrebt
1940			Freunde zu bekommen, Menschen die dich nicht als Person, sondern als
1941			Statussymbol sehen. Aber dann bin ich aufgewacht! Ich erkannte das die
1942			Welt wie sie mir erschien nicht existiert, das sie eine Illusion war,
1943			die hauptsächlich von den Medien erzeugt wurde. Ich merkte mehr und
1944			mehr in was für einer Welt ich mich befand. Eine Welt in der Geld alles
1945			regiert, selbst in der Schule ging es nur darum. Man musste das neuste
1946			Handy haben, die neusten Klamotten, und die richtigen "Freunde". hat
1947			man eines davon nicht ist man es nicht wert beachtet zu werden. Und diese
1948			Menschen nennt man Jocks. Jocks sind alle, die meinen aufgrund von teuren
1949			Klamotten oder schönen Mädchen an der Seite über anderen zu stehen. Ich
1950			verabscheue diese Menschen, nein, ich verabscheue Menschen.
1951
1952			Ich habe in den 18 Jahren meines Lebens erfahren müssen, das man nur
1953			Glücklich werden kann, wenn man sich der Masse fügt, der Gesellschaft
1954			anpasst. Aber das konnte und wollte ich nicht. Ich bin frei! Niemand darf
1955			in mein Leben eingreifen, und tut er es doch hat er die Konsequenzen zu
1956			tragen! Kein Politiker hat das Recht Gesetze zu erlassen, die mir Dinge
1957			verbieten, Kein Bulle hat das Recht mir meine Waffe wegzunehmen, schon gar
1958			nicht während er seine am Gürtel trägt.
1959
1960			Wozu das alles? Wozu soll ich arbeiten? Damit ich mich kaputtmaloche um
1961			mit 65 in den Ruhestand zugehen und 5 Jahre später abzukratzen? Warum
1962			soll ich mich noch anstrengen irgendetwas zu erreichen, wenn es
1963			letztendlich sowieso für'n Arsch ist weil ich früher oder später
1964			krepiere? Ich kann ein Haus bauen, Kinder bekommen und was weiss ich
1965			nicht alles. Aber wozu? Das Haus wird irgendwann abgerissen, und die
1966			Kinder sterben auch mal. Was hat denn das Leben bitte für einen
1967			Sinn? Keinen! Also muss man seinem Leben einen Sinn geben, und das
1968			mache ich nicht indem ich einem überbezahlten Chef im Arsch rumkrieche
1969			oder mich von Faschisten verarschen lasse die mir erzählen wollen wir
1970			leben in einer Volksherrschaft. Nein, es gibt für mich jetzt noch eine
1971			Möglichkeit meinem Leben einen Sinn zu geben, und die werde ich nicht wie
1972			alle anderen zuvor verschwenden! Vielleicht hätte mein Leben komplett
1973			anders verlaufen können. Aber die Gesellschaft hat nunmal keinen Platz
1974			für Individualisten. Ich meine richtige Individualisten, Leute die
1975			slebst denken, und nicht solche 'Ich trage ein Nietenarmband und bin
1976			alternativ' Idioten!
1977
1978			Ihr habt diese Schlacht begonnen, nicht ich. Meine Handlungen sind ein
1979			Resultat eurer Welt, eine Welt die mich nicht sein lassen will wie ich
1980			bin. Ihr habt euch über mich lustig gemacht, dasselbe habe ich nun mit
1981			euch getan, ich hatte nur einen ganz anderen Humor! Von 1994 bis 2003/2004
1982			war es auch mein Bestreben, Freunde zu haben, Spass zu haben. Als ich
1983			dann 1998 auf die GSS kam, fing es an mit den Statussymbolen, Kleidung,
1984			Freunde, Handy usw.. Dann bin ich wach geworden. Mir wurde bewusst das
1985			ich mein Leben lang der Dumme für andere war, und man sich über mich
1986			lustig machte. Und ich habe mir Rache geschworen! Diese Rache wird so
1987			brutal und rücksichtslos ausgeführt werden, dass euch das Blut in den
1988			Adern gefriert. Bevor ich gehe, werde ich euch einen Denkzettel verpassen,
1989			damit mich nie wieder ein Mensch vergisst! Ich will das ihr erkennt, das
1990			niemand das Recht hat unter einem faschistischen Deckmantel aus Gesetz und
1991			Religion in fremdes Leben einzugreifen!
1992
1993			Ich will das sich mein Gesicht in eure Köpfe einbrennt! Ich will
1994			nicht länger davon laufen! Ich will meinen Teil zur Revolution der
1995			Ausgestossenen beitragen!
1996
1997			Ich will R A C H E !
1998
1999			Ich habe darüber nachgedacht, dass die meisten der Schüler die mich
2000			gedemütigt haben schon von der GSS abgegangen sind. Dazu habe ich zwei
2001			Dinge zu sagen:
2002
2003			1. Ich ging nicht nur in eine klasse, nein, ich ging auf die ganze Schule.
2004
2005			Die Menschen die sich auf der Schule befinden, sind in keinem Falle
2006			unschuldig! Niemand ist das! In deren Köpfen läuft das selbe Programm
2007			welches auch bei den früheren Jahrgängen lief! Ich bin der Virus der
2008			diese Programme zerstören will, es ist völlig irrelewand wo ich da
2009			anfange.
2010
2011			2. Ein Grossteil meiner Rache wird sich auf das Lehrpersonal richten,
2012			denn das sind Menschen die gegen meinen Willen in mein Leben eingegriffen
2013			haben, und geholfen haben mich dahin zu stellen, wo ich jetzt stehe; Auf
2014			dem Schlachtfeld! Diese Lehrer befinden sich so gut wie alle noch auf
2015			dieser verdammten schule!
2016
2017			Das Leben wie es heute täglich stattfindet ist wohl das armseeligste was
2018			die Welt zu bieten hat!
2019
2020			S.A.A.R.T. - Schule, Ausbildung, Arbeit, Rente, Tod
2021
2022			Das ist der Lebenslauf eines "normalen" Menschen heutzutage. Aber
2023			was ist eigentlich normal? Als normal wird das bezeichnet, was von der
2024			Gesellschaft erwartet wird. Somit werden heutzutage Punks, Penner,
2025			Mörder, Gothics, Schwule usw. als unnormal bezeichnet, weil sie den
2026			allgemeinen Vorstellungen der Gesellschaft nicht gerecht werden, können
2027			oder wollen. Ich scheiss auf euch! Jeder hat frei zu sein! Gebt jedem
2028			eine Waffe und die Probleme unter den Menschen lösen sich ohne jedliche
2029			Einmischung Dritter. Wenn jemand stirbt, dann ist er halt tot. Und? Der
2030			Tod gehört zum Leben! Kommen die Angehörigen mit dem Verlust nicht klar,
2031			können sie Selbstmord begehen, niemand hindert sie daran!
2032
2033			S.A.A.R.T. beginnt mit dem 6. Lebensjahr hier in Deutschland, mit der
2034			Einschulung.
2035
2036			Das Kind begibt sich auf seine perönliche Sozialisationsstrecke, und
2037			wird in den darauffolgenden Jahren gezwungen sich der Allgemeinheit, der
2038			Mehrheit anzupassen. Lehnt es dies ab, schalten sich Lehrer, Eltern,
2039			und nicht zuletzt die Polizei ein. Schulpflicht ist die Schönrede von
2040			Schulzwang, denn man wird ja gezwungen zur Schule zu gehen. Wer gezwungen
2041			wird, verliert ein Stück seiner Freiheit. Man wird gezwungen Steuern zu
2042			zahlen, man wird gezwungen Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungen einzuhalten, man
2043			wird gezwungen dies zu tun, man wird gewzungen das zu tun. Ergo: Keine
2044			Freiheit! Und sowas nennt man dann Volksherrschaft. Wenn das Volk hier
2045			herrschen würde, hiesse es Anarchie!
2046
2047			WERDET ENDLICH WACH - GEHT AUF DIE STRASSE - DAS HAT IN DEUTSCHLAND
2048			SCHONMAL FUNKTIONIERT!
2049
2050			Nach meiner Tat werden wieder irgendwelche fetten Politiker dumme
2051			Sprüche klopfen wie "Wir halten nun alle zusammen" oder "Wir
2052			müssen gemeinsam versuchen dies durchzustehen". Doch das machen
2053			sie nur um Aufmerksmakeit zu bekommen, um sich selbst als die Lösung
2054			zu präsentieren. Auf der GSS war es genauso... niemals lässt
2055			sich dieses fette Stück Scheisse von Rektorin blicken, aber wenn
2056			Theater-aufführungen sind, dann steht sie als erste mit einem breiten
2057			Grinsen auf der Bühne und präsentiert sich der Masse!
2058
2059			Nazis, HipHoper, Türken, Staat, Staatsdiener, Gläubige... einfach alle
2060			sind zum kotzen und müssen vernichtet werden! (Den begriff "Türken"
2061			benutze ich für alle HipHopMuchels und Kleingangster; Sie kommen nach
2062			Deutschland weil die Bedingungen bei ihnen zu hause zu schlecht sind,
2063			weil Krieg ist... und dann kommen Sie nach Deutschland, dem Sozialamt der
2064			Welt, und lassne hier die Sau raus. Sie sollten alle vergast werden! Keine
2065			Juden, keine Neger, keine Holländer, aber Muchels! ICH BIN KEIN SCHEISS
2066			NAZI) Ich hasse euch und eure Art! Ihr müsst alle sterben!
2067
2068			Seit meinem 6. Lebensjahr wurde ich von euch allen verarscht! Nun müsst
2069			ihr dafür bezahlen!
2070
2071			Weil ich weiss das die Fascholizei meine Videos, Schulhefte, Tagebücher,
2072			einfach alles, nicht veröffentlichen will, habe ich das selbst in die
2073			Hand genommen.
2074
2075			Als letztes möchte ich den Menschen die mir was bedeuten, oder die jemals
2076			gut zu mir waren, danken, und mich für all dies Entschuldigen!
2077
2078			Ich bin weg...
2079			%
2080			01:14 <scortch> its an NP hard for computers
2081			01:14 <elmex> no, it's NP hard for anyone
2082			%
2083	root	1.432	19:18 <elmex> schmorp: eben anner kasse stand jemadn hinter mir und faselte mit seinen
2084			kumpels zum thema bill gates: "... er ist ja mein vorbild, nicht jetzt
2085			wegen dem geld, sondern wegen dem charakterlichen und so ... der hat ja
2086			die haelfte seines vermoegens gespendet.... und ne jacht hat der auch...
2087	root	1.431	abe was fuer eine... voll fettes schiff...'
2088			19:19 <schmorp> rofl
2089			19:19 <schmorp> aber nicht wegem dme geld
2090			19:19 <elmex> der studiert glaub ich informatik :)
2091			19:19 <elmex> das is die neue generation
2092			19:19 <elmex> 'generation gates'
2093			19:19 <schmorp> die frage schiene mcirosoft oder schiene java erübrigt sich
2094			%
2095			http://www.bissantz.de/pub/Luegen_mit_Statistiken.pdf
2096			%
2097			[http://use.perl.org/~luqui/journal/]
2098			[The reason I left Perl 6]
2099
2100			The virtue of social art was extinguished when the solutions that I had
2101			worked for weeks on and I considered truly beautiful lost to syntax
2102			bloat and "DWIM tables". It bascially came down to the rest of the team
2103			considering Perl much more pragmatically than I did, which may end up
2104			better for the end result anyway—it is hard to tell.
2105			%
2106			http://www.ta-sa.org/files/sc/perl6_timeline_updated.png
2107			%
2108			00:20 <schmorp> Mikachu: xjdic lists ぶっかける as to dash (slosh) water (or other liquid)onapersonorinaperson'sface
2109			00:21 <Mikachu> yeah, that made me laugh a bit
2110			00:21 <Mikachu> "or other liquid, know what i mean, nudge nudge"
2111			%
2112			[very funny read]
2113			Hack-a-Bike
2114			USK@vZ8crASNqmw9APiGDtTxV0YvspklNnOTmQin0ZsPLdk,bnUaihNj6Ww8CFvBQo4UwH0pYiS0hOyeKIxvO0tZdJk,AQABAAE/hack-a-bike/1/index_de.html
2115			%
2116			Now that habeas corpus and other basic rights, including the right not to
2117			be tortured while interrogated, have now been deemed unnecessary, more
2118			Americans than ever have been thinking of getting out the door while they
2119			still can.
2120
2121			http://www.boingboing.net/2006/10/23/getting_out_your_gui.html
2122			%
2123	root	1.432	23:52 <elmex> Zaehlen sie die wichtigsten Berufsfelder der IT-Branche auf:
2124			Java-code-affe, Bussiness-scheisse-laber-affe, Windows-admin,
2125	root	1.431	Windows-user, echter Admin und echter Programmierer.
2126			%
2127			[without words]
2128			http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/1030/104_print.html
2129			%
2130			[http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030217/cockburn]
2131			We're in the twilit world of the "thought crime." Have a photo of a kid in
2132			a bath on your hard drive, and the prosecutor says you were looking at it
2133			with lust in your heart, and that is tantamount to sexually molesting an
2134			actual kid in an actual bath.
2135			%
2136			Don't put stock in the Constitution, anymore. It IS just a piece of paper,
2137			today (actually, since Oct 17th). The Military Commissions Act of 2006
2138			makes the Constitution null and void. You (regardless of your citizenship)
2139			may be held with no charges, for no reason, for an indefinite time, with
2140			absolutely no judicial oversight. It is completely legal for the
2141			government to pick you up and for you to disappear with no one ever knowing
2142			what happened to you.
2143			%
2144	root	1.472	--
2145	root	1.431	Markus Schulz
2146
2147			A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion
2148			Q: Why is top posting bad?
2149			%
2150			On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 02:05:19AM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
2151	root	1.432	> 1. It's not that I don't want to, but I _can't_ implement kprobes and not
2152			> due to lack of skills, but lack of resources. (There is a subtle but
2153	root	1.431	> important difference.)
2154
2155			Um, given the amount of time you've spent trying to pursuade us why
2156			you can't implement kprobes for m68k, perhaps you would have
2157			implemented it already if you had buckled down and started coding
2158			instead of flaming about why everyone else should bend over backwards
2159			just because you don't have time for your arch? :-)
2160
2161			- Ted
2162			%
2163			[http://richarddawkins.net/mainPage.php?bodyPage=article_body.php&id=183]
2164			"I want to see young people who are as committed to the cause of Jesus
2165			Christ as the young people are to the cause of Islam. I want to see them
2166			as radically laying down their lives for the gospel as they are over in
2167			Pakistan and Israel and Palestine and all those different places... Excuse
2168			me, but we have the truth!"
2169			%
2170			[Meijin Title Game #3, Takao Shinji vs. Cho U]
2171			(22) archimed [18k?]: actually, what are considered to be their respective strengths?
2172			(22) zephi [ 7k+]: takao's strength is kickin cho u's butt
2173			(22) zephi [ 7k+]: cho u's a big fighter
2174			%
2175			[nethack extinctionist faq]
2176			The first "extinctionist" ascension on r.g.r.n. (at least from what I can
2177			tell) seems to have been by Matthew Bourland in 2000, who although he
2178			didn't actually kill everything, certainly genocided all (at the time) 256
2179			monster types that were genocidable. Then, after that he extincted all
2180			other randomly generated monsters. On the other hand, having 120 kills
2181			in every category is perhaps more noteworthy (or foolhardy?) than simply
2182			genociding every monster.
2183
2184			I'd recommend a dose of both. Kill them until they're dead and then
2185			genocide them for good measure!
2186			%%
2187			[nethack instadeath faq]
2188
2189			* eating Death, Famine, Pestilence, Medusa, or green slime corpses
2190
2191			Well let's face it, this is just plain stupid. So don't do it!
2192			%
2193			17:57 <zaphod> Murch: Stroemungslehre ist geil
2194			17:57 <Murch> zaphod: hm?
2195	root	1.432	17:57 <zaphod> Murch: "Diese Gleichungen sind, zumindest aus der Sicht eines
2196	root	1.431	Ingenieurs, als exakt anzusehen."
2197			17:58 <Murch> lol
2198			%
2199			22:51 -cfbot:#cf- [Wrathmagic] oh i love killing pirates yes i do i love stabbing them through and through
2200			%
2201			[Brazil and Bush’s War on Terror]
2202			http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/blumen3.html
2203			%
2204			http://trac.syr.edu/tracreports/terrorism/169/
2205			%
2206			http://web3.0log.org/2006/09/01/new-secure-browser-browzar-is-fake-and-full-of-adware/
2207
2208			There was time when badware developers tried to install ad pages as homepage
2209			or searchpage in user’s IE by any possible means. Nowadays users install
2210			adware voluntarily and write news about it. True web2.0 style!
2211			%
2212			http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/05/universal_time_zone.html
2213
2214			At the United Nations today President George W. Bush
2215			announced a proposal to unify all the world's time zones
2216			into a single Universal Time Zone (UTZ), formerly known as
2217			the Eastern Time Zone.
2218			[...]
2219			Britain immediately supported the US plan. "If it means
2220			sleeping in broad daylight then we'll stick with our
2221			allies," said Tony Blair, "Of course there's never broad
2222			daylight in the UK, so it's not much of an issue."
2223			%
2224			Wow, and this in security-relevant code... (taken from libc's ld.so)
2225
2226			_dl_profile_output
2227			= &"/var/tmp\0/var/profile"[__libc_enable_secure ? 9 : 0];
2228			%
2229			[CRYPTO-GRAM]
2230			By January 1st, 2007, everyone crossing the border between the U.S. and Canada is supposed to have
2231			a passport. This is because of terrorism, of course. But now we learn that ferries and private
2232			watercraft will be exempt. One of two things is true. Either passports are required for
2233			security, in which case we should interfere with ferries. Or they're for show, in which case we
2234			can just do what's convenient. Or maybe we just know that terrorists never take ferries. I get
2235			that security is a trade-off, but this is kind of silly.
2236
2237			http://tinyurl.com/zl5af
2238			%
2239			[famous last words]
2240			11:22 <kaizoku> what do you mean by plonk?
2241			%
2242			What make a provider a tier 2, versus a tier 1 provider...
2243
2244			"We are a tier 1 provider" = "I am a salesperson."
2245
2246			"They are a tier 2 provider." = "I am a salesperson and they are our competitor".
2247
2248			--
2249			Jay Hennigan
2250			%
2251			http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/17_Mistakes_Microsoft_Made_in_the_Xbox_Security_System
2252			%
2253			[latimes story about a man returning to the us from iraq and being
2254			held for selling copyrighted images on t-shirts by the department
2255			of homeland security]
2256			http://tinyurl.com/ourlr
2257			%
2258			"Some other types of programs won't make the transition to Windows x64
2259	root	1.432	seamlessly, either. Microsoft ships WinXP x64 with two versions of
2260	root	1.431	Internet Explorer, a 32-bit version and a 64-bit version. The 32-bit
2261			version is the OS default because nearly all ActiveX controls and the like
2262			are 32-bit code, and where would we be if we couldn't execute the full
2263			range of spyware available to us?"
2264
2265			[http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/64-bits/index.x?pg=1]
2266			%
2267			[http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/kglobalaccel__x11_8cpp-source.html]
2268			00279 if( pEvent->xkey.state & KKeyServer::modXNumLock() ) {
2269			00280 // TODO: what's the xor operator in c++?
2270			%
2271	root	1.432	<Mikachu> give a man a fix and he's running urxvt one day, teach a man
2272	root	1.431	to fix and he will run urxvt all his life
2273			%
2274			The NSA Phone Call Database: The European Perspective
2275			http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2006/05/the_nsa_phone_c.html
2276			%
2277			Oh, I agree completely. No game has ever let me down the way Oblivoin
2278			did. I"m still hoping mods and expansions will fix it but there's no way
2279			I'm pre-ordering the next one. I'm afraid it really will be a first person
2280			shooter.
2281
2282			The really scary thing is that it's not just video games. Book sales were
2283			done last year because people just don't read as much anymore. I'm having
2284			to dumb down my newspaper editorials because people used to want analysis
2285			they could use to make their own opinions, now they seem to just want
2286			opinions they can quote without having to think for themselves. McDonalds
2287			puts pictures of the food on the cash register instead of numbers.
2288
2289			Face it. The human race is devolving. In 500 years the best selling RPG
2290			in the universe will be a console game where you roleplay an ape named
2291			Fred, swing on vines and throw your own excrement. You'll have one stat,
2292			apeness. It wiill effect everything you do in a subtle, yet unexplained
2293			way.
2294
2295			And Bethesda fan boys will be screaming "TES 504: Monkeypoo good. You go
2296			bak cave, no good rpger. Two stats bad. Made feces throw too hard. Shiney
2297			key graphic good. Make me happy."
2298
2299			shrugs But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
2300			%
2301			> So Hitler was a pacifist because he let other people kill for him? Most
2302			> D&D computer games require you to kill people (not simply knock them
2303			> out). Also just because you don't kill doesn't make you a pacifist (see
2304			> above comment about Hitler).
2305
2306			I invoke the European rule: In any given argument, the first side to
2307			mention Hitler loses.
2308			%
2309			[siggraph '99 course 12]
2310			Unfortunately, including <windows.h> has the unfortunate side effect of
2311			introducing literally thousands of macros and type declarations into
2312			your compilation environment. This undesirable "name space pollution"
2313			can sometimes affect source code portability by conflicting with your
2314			program's own macros and types. This can particularly be a problem for
2315			UNIX programmers that are not familiar with all the junk that comes with
2316			including <windows.h>.
2317			[...]
2318			Win32's requirement that you use wglGetProcAddress is a real drag,
2319			but if you do everything right, using OpenGL extensions works and
2320			gives you access to amazing new OpenGL features. And let's be honest;
2321			wglGet- ProcAddress is hardly the only annoying and awkward thing about
2322			programming with the Win32 API. Still, by using the C preprocessor and
2323			coding carefully, you actually can write OpenGL programs that use OpenGL
2324			extensions and compile from the same source code for both UNIX and Win32
2325			environments.
2326			%
2327			http://neil.franklin.ch/Usenet/alt.folklore.computers/19981207_Computers_are_so_STY00PID
2328			%
2329			[http://www.voynich.net/Kryptos]
2330			"It's easier to rig an electronic voting machine than a Las Vegas slot machine"
2331			%
2332			[CRYPTO-GRAM 2006-03-15]
2333			[...] There are all sorts of interests vying for control of your
2334			computer. There are media companies that want to control what you can
2335			do with the music and videos they sell you. There are companies that
2336			use software as a conduit to collect marketing information, deliver
2337			advertising or do whatever it is their real owners require. And there are
2338			software companies that are trying to make money by pleasing not only
2339			their customers, but other companies they ally themselves with. All these
2340			companies want to own your computer.
2341
2342			Some examples:
2343
2344			1. Entertainment software: In October 2005, it emerged that Sony had
2345			distributed a rootkit with several music CDs -- the same kind of
2346			software that crackers use to own people's computers. This rootkit
2347			secretly installed itself when the music CD was played on a computer.
2348			Its purpose was to prevent people from doing things with the music that
2349			Sony didn't approve of: It was a DRM system. If the exact same piece of
2350			software had been installed secretly by a hacker, this would have been
2351			an illegal act. But Sony believed that it had legitimate reasons for
2352			wanting to own its customers' machines.
2353	root	1.432
2354	root	1.431	2. Antivirus: You might have expected your antivirus software to detect
2355			Sony's rootkit. After all, that's why you bought it. But initially, the
2356			security programs sold by Symantec and others did not detect it,
2357			because Sony had asked them not to. You might have thought that the
2358			software you bought was working for you, but you would have been wrong.
2359
2360			3. Internet services: Hotmail allows you to blacklist certain e-mail
2361			addresses, so that mail from them automatically goes into your spam
2362			trap. Have you ever tried blocking all that incessant marketing e-mail
2363			from Microsoft? You can't.
2364
2365			4. Application software: Internet Explorer users might have expected
2366			the program to incorporate easy-to-use cookie handling and pop-up
2367			blockers. After all, other browsers do, and users have found them
2368			useful in defending against Internet annoyances. But Microsoft isn't
2369			just selling software to you; it sells Internet advertising as well. It
2370			isn't in the company's best interest to offer users features that would
2371			adversely affect its business partners.
2372
2373			5. Spyware: Spyware is nothing but someone else trying to own your
2374			computer. These programs eavesdrop on your behavior and report back to
2375			their real owners -- sometimes without your knowledge or consent --
2376			about your behavior.
2377
2378			6. Update: Automatic update features are another way software companies
2379			try to own your computer. While they can be useful for improving
2380			security, they also require you to trust your software vendor not to
2381			disable your computer for nonpayment, breach of contract or other
2382			presumed infractions.
2383
2384			Adware, software-as-a-service and Google Desktop search are all
2385			examples of some other company trying to own your computer. And Trusted
2386			Computing will only make the problem worse.
2387
2388			There is an inherent insecurity to technologies that try to own
2389			people's computers: They allow individuals other than the computers'
2390			legitimate owners to enforce policy on those machines. These systems
2391			invite attackers to assume the role of the third party and turn a
2392			user's device against him.
2393			[...]
2394			You can fight back against this trend by only using software that
2395			respects your boundaries. Boycott companies that don't honestly serve
2396			their customers, that don't disclose their alliances, that treat users
2397			like marketing assets. Use open-source software -- software created and
2398			owned by users, with no hidden agendas, no secret alliances and no
2399			back-room marketing deals.
2400			%
2401			[John Carmack on Java]
2402			Write-once-run-anywhere. Ha. Hahahahaha. We are only testing on four
2403			platforms right now, and not a single pair has the exact same quirks. All
2404			the commercial games are tweaked and compiled individually for each
2405			(often 100+) platform. Portability is not a justification for the awful
2406			performance.
2407			%
2408			[http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,415577,00.html]
2409
2410			"Wenn ich höre, dass die Telekom mit Microsoft kooperiert, da wird mir
2411			ganz anders", sagte Herbert Tillmann, der Vorsitzende der Produktions-
2412			und Technikkommission von ARD und ZDF dem Blatt. Man bevorzuge offene
2413			Standards und wolle sich der Plattform von Microsoft nicht ausliefern.
2414			%
2415			http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2006/05/german_cannibal.html
2416			%
2417			"Ok, this is complete off topic but WHY do so many Americans think that
2418			once your cross the 49th parellel into Canada that they are going out into
2419			a technology- and civilization-free zone???"
2420			http://p203.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm31
2421			%
2422			http://funroll-loops.org/
2423			%
2424			[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL]
2425			When Direct3D was released in 1995, Microsoft, SGI, and Hewlett-Packard
2426			initiated the Fahrenheit project, which was a joint effort with the
2427			goal of unifying the OpenGL and Direct3D interfaces - and again, adding
2428			a scene-graph API. It initially showed some promise of bringing order
2429			to the world of interactive 3D computer graphics APIs, but on account
2430			of financial constraints at SGI and general lack of industry support
2431			it was abandoned. The engineers involved at SGI held a beach party in
2432			celebration - complete with bonfires on which they burned piles of
2433			Fahrenheit documentation.
2434			%
2435			[Whenever I try to use svn, it fails me. Sure I modified files, but whats
2436			the point of a RCS system that can't cope with that? Besides, I am 100%
2437			sure its much slower than CVS]
2438			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
2439			svn: Won't delete locally modified directory '.'
2440			svn: Left locally modified or unversioned files
2441	root	1.432	[Exit 1]
2442	root	1.431	cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
2443			svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
2444	root	1.432	[Exit 1]
2445	root	1.431	cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn diff
2446			svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
2447	root	1.432	[Exit 1]
2448	root	1.431	[Great, my local fixes are lost now, too. Whoever let this horror loose on
2449			humanity deserves to be shot or something like that]
2450			%
2451	root	1.430	[http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431.12]
2452
2453			... I'm evaluating a bunch of J2EE portlet-enabled JSR-compliant MVC
2454			role-based CMS web service application container frameworks. ...
2455	root	1.431	%
2456	root	1.429	Subject: RE: Question about Leap Second Features
2457
2458			> Is there any implementation for this information on Microsoft operating
2459			> systems ?
2460
2461			Any Microsoft operating system that is accurate down to the second can
2462			probably be hand-picked from Bill Gates' garage ... ;-)
2463
2464			Jesper
2465			%
2466	root	1.428	[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ballmer]
2467
2468			"As far as I can tell, the phrase 'I. Love. This. Company.
2469			YEEEAAAAAAAAARARRRRARAGH!' has FIVE words, not four."
2470
2471	root	1.432	~ Oscar Wilde on Steve Ballmer having four words for you.
2472	root	1.429	%
2473	root	1.427	http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/kafkaesque.html
2474			%
2475	root	1.426	[http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136541]
2476
2477			You've doubled the work. People don't like that. People REALLY don't
2478			like that. The number of duplicate bugs filed against the chooser is
2479			evidence for this. Furthermore, click depth is a standard metric for
2480			measuring HCI usability, and this dialog has moved in the absolute wrong
2481			direction. People won't be satisfied until they get the entry box back
2482			into the dialog. You can grind your teeth and pull your hair all you want,
2483			but that's the truth.
2484			%
2485	root	1.424	[de.alt.ufo]
2486
2487			Braun Ludwig <Wick84@gmx.de> wrote:
2488
2489	root	1.432	> 1. Ufos sind für mich Flugobjekte des US Militärs mit einen neuartigen
2490			> Atrieb, der mit einen Motorgenerator von ca 100000 Volt und einer
2491			> Stromstärke von ca 2 mA, einer elektronischen Steuereinheit und einer
2492			> Antriebseinheit auf Kondensator Basis betrieben wird. Zur Erklärung des
2493	root	1.424
2494			Aaha! Naja, die Elektrogravitation ist wirklich seit langem bekannt. Damit aber
2495	root	1.425	einen Antrieb zu realisieren halte ich für weniger wahrscheinlich. So abstrakt
2496			ist diese Funktion nicht und es wären schon mehr als ein Mensch dahinter
2497	root	1.424	gekommen. Ich sicher auch.
2498
2499			Allerdings schreibst Du hier von einem Generator. Es stellt sich die Frage
2500			was genau man mit 2 mA erzeugen will. Jeder Paralyzer schafft das mit
2501	root	1.425	der Hälfte der Spannung auch. Ich habe aber noch kein Opfer schweben
2502	root	1.424	gesehen. Im Gegenteil - die bewegen sich eigentlich immer ziemlich schnell
2503			in Richtung Boden.
2504
2505			[...]
2506
2507	root	1.432	> Dieser Ufo Flugzeug Typ wird in erster Linie als Spionage und
2508	root	1.425	> Aufklärungsflugobject eingesetzt.
2509	root	1.424
2510			Verstehe. Was ist in Afrika so interessant? Bekanntlich gibt oder gab es
2511	root	1.425	da bisher die überwiegenden Sichtungen. Was will z.B. der Ami von den
2512	root	1.424	Eingeborenen erfahren? Wie man richtig Reis oder Getreide kocht?
2513
2514			[...]
2515
2516			> 2. ausserirdische Ufo Flugobjekte.
2517	root	1.432	> Es gibt maximal 1 oder 2 oder drei ausserirdische Flugzeug
2518	root	1.425	> Beobachtungen, die tatsächlich wahr sind.
2519	root	1.424
2520			Nur drei? Das muss ich mir merken, damit ich das nicht vergesse. Welche
2521	root	1.425	mögen das Deiner Meinung nach wohl gewesen sein? Das ist ja noch
2522			schlimmer als Cenap, die von etwa 100.000 Fällen 1% erforscht haben,
2523			die wiederum schon im Vorfeld als 'normal' geklärt waren. Mit dieser
2524	root	1.424	Meinung solltest Du zu WW gehen und dich vorstellen. Der nimmmt Dich
2525			sofort.
2526			%
2527	root	1.423	[http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/Tech/connect4.htm]
2528			By the way, decryption can be performed easily in your editor with syntax
2529			like !!tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M (Sorry if you had the misfortune to buy your
2530			software from Microsoft.)
2531	root	1.424	%
2532	root	1.422	http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/
2533	root	1.424	%
2534	root	1.421	> BTW I have 2 English words for you, FUCK YOU
2535
2536			Why, that's a rather intimate proposal. I never realised you were
2537			gay. While I would like to offer the hand of friendship, I am
2538			afraid that the thought of sex with a grown man doesn't really do
2539			much for me so I shall have to decline with a modicum of regret.
2540	root	1.424	%
2541	root	1.420	http://www.ta-sa.org/files/java_godkk.jpg
2542	root	1.419	http://www.chunder.com/carrots/javasux.html
2543	root	1.424	%
2544	root	1.418	Subject: Re: Docket No. 2005-22114
2545			From: Rodrigo Severo
2546			Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:04:33 -0200
2547			To: tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov
2548
2549			On 1/23/06, Paul Eggert wrote:
2550
2551			"David Braverman" <david@inner-drive.com> writes:
2552			It is a bit ironic that the US is less efficient than Brazil in fixing
2553			obviously-broken regulations like this.
2554
2555			I'm sorry but I have to ask: where is the irony in this? I hope the answer
2556			isn't obvious to people from US and I'm not seeing it just because I'm
2557			brazilian ;)
2558			Rodrigo Severo
2559	root	1.424	%
2560	root	1.431	[Frankly, I'd just like to know what GNOME did wrong to deserve this :]
2561	root	1.417
2562			http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/faq.html#1.13
2563	root	1.424	%
2564	root	1.416	[Another entry in the series "make this a blog":]
2565
2566			I wanted to see it for myself, and directed my browser to http://www.mpaa.org/.
2567
2568			Got "Bad Request (Invalid Header Name)".
2569
2570			Well.. some investigation showed that it didn't like the headers added by
2571			squid (in mostly default debian config).
2572
2573			sigh
2574	root	1.424	%
2575	root	1.415	A LIBERAL DECALOGUE
2576			By Bertrand Russell
2577
2578			Perhaps the essence of the Liberal outlook could be summed up in a new
2579			decalogue, not intended to replace the old one but only to supplement
2580			it. The Ten Commandments that, as a teacher, I should wish to promulgate,
2581			might be set forth as follows:
2582
2583			1. Do not feel absolutely certain of anything.
2584
2585			2. Do not think it worth while to proceed by concealing evidence, for the
2586			evidence is sure to come to light.
2587
2588			3. Never try to discourage thinking for you are sure to succeed.
2589
2590			4. When you meet with opposition, even if it should be from your husband
2591			or your children, endeavor to overcome it by argument and not by
2592			authority, for a victory dependent upon authority is unreal and illusory.
2593
2594			5. Have no respect for the authority of others, for there are always
2595			contrary authorities to be found.
2596
2597			6. Do not use power to suppress opinions you think pernicious, for if you
2598			do the opinions will suppress you.
2599
2600			7. Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted
2601			was once eccentric.
2602
2603			8. Find more pleasure in intelligent dissent that in passive agreement,
2604			for, if you value intelligence as you should, the former implies a deeper
2605			agreement than the latter.
2606
2607			9. Be scrupulously truthful, even if the truth is inconvenient, for it is
2608			more inconvenient when you try to conceal it.
2609
2610			10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool's
2611			paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness."
2612
2613			"A Liberal Decalogue" is from The Autobiography of Bertrand Russell,
2614			Vol. 3: 1944-1969, pp. 71-2.
2615	root	1.424	%
2616	root	1.413	[http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/12/09/502014.aspx]
2617	root	1.412	John Hoy, President of the DVD Copy Control Association, made
2618			the following statement to the Library of Congress in its 2003
2619			Anticircumvention rulemaking proceedings:
2620
2621			"Furthermore, if a consumer in the United States desires to view a DVD disc
2622			that has been region coded only for Europe, then that consumer is free to
2623			purchase a DVD player (either hardware or software) that is coded to play
2624			European DVDs. No legal restrictions apply-either through the CSS license
2625			or otherwise-to the importation and use of non-U.S. region players in the
2626			United States."
2627	root	1.413	---
2628			It must really suck to live in a nation where competition is actually
2629			outlawed - you have to feel sorry for all those people oppressed by
2630			communists and socialists. Oh, wait.... ;)
2631	root	1.414	---
2632			"You ain't seen nothin' yet! I heard that the new HD-DVDs or Blue-ray
2633			discs (whichever win eventually) will be street-encoded. You have to
2634			quote your street name while buying DVDs and they won't work in the next
2635			street. The hidden reason for this is that MPAA wants to charge upwards of
2636			$1000 per DVD for those living in million dollar mansions."
2637
2638			This isn't far from the truth. Blu-ray disks for PlayStation3 will only
2639			play in ONE player on earth. MS will eventually make up something similar.
2640	root	1.424	%
2641	root	1.411	[gnome-clock and my radio-clock failed miserably, /bin/date and Linux worked:]
2642			Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC
2643	root	1.424	%
2644	root	1.410	[http://www.slate.com/id/2133993/]
2645
2646			Vulnerabilities deemed "critical" have forced the company to release an
2647			almost unending stream of patches and fixes [...]
2648
2649			Sure, it might be nice to connect your computer and your television
2650			set. But is it worth it to give hackers access to your television?
2651
2652			Even if we don't use them, we suffer from them.
2653
2654			[...] a former senior security analyst for the House of Representatives,
2655			believes that Microsoft is a threat to national security.
2656	root	1.424	%
2657	root	1.409	[Copyright History - US view]
2658			http://www.culturaleconomics.atfreeweb.com/cpu.htm
2659	root	1.424	%
2660	root	1.408	[I just re-read the unix haters hadnbook]
2661			X has had its share of $5,000 toilet seats -- like Sun's Open Look clock
2662			tool, which gobbles up 1.4 megabytes of real memory! If you sacrificed all
2663			the RAM from 22 Commodore 64s to clock tool, it still wouldn't have enough
2664			to tell you the time. Even the vanilla X11R4 "xclock" utility consumed
2665			656K to run. And X's memory usage is increasing.
2666	root	1.424	%
2667	root	1.406	[Got to remember this way of arguing, it's great if it works:]
2668
2669			"Most people, I think, don’t even know what a rootkit is, so why should
2670			they care about it?"
2671			-- Thomas Hesse, Sony BMG’s Global Digital Business President.
2672	root	1.407
2673			[see also http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004145.php]
2674	root	1.424	%
2675	root	1.405	Let me repeat again: Formal axiomatic systems are a failure!
2676			-- Gregory Chaitin
2677	root	1.424	%
2678	root	1.432	13:49 <RayTracer> pixelsize=14 ist so groß wie 8 beim xchat wenn ich den
2679	root	1.404	gnome-settings-daemon nicht lade
2680			13:50 <schmorp> autsch, was hat das mit dem gnome-settings-daemon zu tun? ist ja hart!
2681			[...]
2682	root	1.432	13:51 <RayTracer> wenn ich den nicht lade sind alle gtk-programme mit großem Font,
2683			wenn ich ihn lade werden sie klein gemacht und wenn ich ihn töte ist
2684	root	1.404	wieder alles groß
2685	root	1.424	%
2686	root	1.403	[man perlsub]
2687			That prints "unphooey". (Yes, there are still unresolved issues
2688			having to do with visibility of @_. I’m ignoring that question
2689			for the moment. (But note that if we make @_ lexically scoped,
2690			those anonymous subroutines can act like closures... (Gee, is this
2691			sounding a little Lispish? (Never mind.))))
2692	root	1.424	%
2693	root	1.402	[glibc's bits/socket.h]
2694
2695			if ((size_t) __cmsg->cmsg_len < sizeof (struct cmsghdr))
2696	root	1.432	/* The kernel header does this so there may be a reason. */
2697			return 0;
2698	root	1.424	%
2699	root	1.400	http://www.wicked-vision.com/zensur/zensur/zensur_bei_filmen.html
2700	root	1.401
2701			> Die Argumente liefen insbesondere darauf hinaus, dass es sich bei den
2702			> Filmen, auf die in Anspielungen verwiesen wird, um Filme handelt, die
2703			> entweder von der FSK gekennzeichnet wurden mit "nicht freigegeben
2704			> unter 18 Jahren", die von der Bundesprüfstelle indiziert wurden oder
2705			> die sogar durch entsprechende Beschlüsse bundesweit beschlagnahmt
2706			> wurden, also alles Filme, die Kindern und Jugendlichen aufgrund der
2707			> Gesetze zum Jugendschutz von vornherein nicht zugänglich sind. Kindern
2708			> und Jugendlichen wird daher die Persiflage auf diese Filme nicht
2709			> transparent.
2710
2711			Das muß man sich mal auf der Zunge zergehen lassen: Da wird ein Film,
2712			der ab 18 Jahren freigegeben ist, indiziert, weil Kinder und Jugendliche
2713			die parodistischen Anspielungen nicht verstehen könnten. Mit solchen
2714			Begründungen beraubt sich die BPjS letztlich ihrer Glaubwürdigkeit.
2715	root	1.424	%
2716	root	1.399	Großmanns Gesetz: Komplexe Probleme haben einfache, leichtverständliche,
2717			aber falsche Lösungen.
2718	root	1.424	%
2719	root	1.398	A project done in Java will cost 5 times as much, take twice as long,
2720			and be harder to maintain than a project done in a scripting language such
2721			as PHP or Perl. [http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/09/20#a1762 Java
2722			is the SUV of programming tools] Philip Greenspun
2723	root	1.424	%
2724	root	1.397	On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Till Kamppeter wrote:
2725			>
2726			> Frederic told that the options from the PPD file are intentionally mot
2727			> listed in the printing dialog, the usability team of GNOME was against
2728			> listing these options. They clutter the dialog and can be more confusing
2729			> than useful to the user.
2730
2731			I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE.
2732
2733			This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of
2734			Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will
2735			use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long
2736			since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do.
2737
2738			Please, just tell people to use KDE.
2739
2740			Linus
2741	root	1.424	%
2742	root	1.396	Move 80, Node 81
2743			theodore [22k?]: i hear 8 d can read the future
2744			setzer [?]: what about 9d
2745			theodore [22k?]: they control it
2746	root	1.424	%
2747	root	1.395	[Fuqid 1.6 FAQ]
2748			Wenn ich HTL auf 300 setze dann lade ich viel schneller runter, warum?
2749
2750	root	1.398	Weil du daran glaubst, das hat nur psychologische Gründe. HTL's grösser
2751	root	1.395	als das Nodelimit haben einfach keinen Einfluss. PUNKT!
2752			--
2753			Warum wurde Fuqid nicht in der geilen Sprache XX geschrieben?
2754
2755			Du sprichst nur eine Sprache? Bist du Amerikaner?
2756	root	1.424	%
2757	root	1.393	[Are people responsible for the company they work at?]
2758			I was at a party in New York City earlier this year, and a conversation went like this:
2759
2760			Person: What do you do?
2761			Me: I'm a computer programmer at Microsoft.
2762			Person: <viciously> I hate you.
2763
2764			If Miss Manners didn't say so explicitly, I suspect she would nevertheless
2765			agree that snarling "I hate you" to somebody on first introduction is not
2766			exactly getting off on the right foot.
2767	root	1.394
2768			[And this is how that Microsoft programmer reacts to bugs in Microsoft software]
2769			http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/10/17/481810.aspx
2770	root	1.424	%
2771	root	1.392	"The music and film industries are demanding that the European parliament
2772			extends the scope of proposed anti-terror laws to help them prosecute
2773			illegal downloaders."
2774
2775			Bill Thompson at the BBC has some pertinent commentary:
2776
2777			"If they cannot come up with a business model which allows them to make
2778			profits without criminalising their customers, trampling over our civil
2779			liberties or installing malware on our computers then they do not deserve
2780			to stay in business, and new ways for artists to reach the public will
2781			have to emerge."
2782
2783			http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4469886.stm
2784	root	1.424	%
2785	root	1.425	>Damit dürftest du der zweite Mensch sein, den ich kenne, der sich mit
2786	root	1.391	>einer so spartanischen Hardwareausstattung zufrieden gibt:) Ich selbst
2787
2788			Mein Arbeitsplatz ist eine HP 715/80 - also 80 MHz. Da drauf laeuft der vi
2789			immer noch genauso schnell wie vor zehn Jahren :)
2790
2791			Bye, Andy
2792	root	1.424	%
2793	root	1.398	[ka.uni.rz.stud, warum bestimmte zeichen in passwörtern verboten sind]
2794	root	1.425	>einem Passwort nicht zulässt, das kann ich nachvollziehen, aber wieso ein
2795	root	1.390	>Dollarzeichen, Leerzeichen, Klammeraffe, Doppelkreuz, Prozent, doppelte
2796	root	1.425	>Anführungszeichen, Paragraph und was es da noch so alles gibt? Und wieso nur
2797	root	1.390
2798			Dollarzeichen: DCE kann nicht damit umgehen.
2799			Leerzeichen: sind nur am Anfang und Ende eines PW verboten - es gibt
2800			System, die das wegstrippen :(
2801			Klammeraffe: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Kill-Zeichen (stammt
2802			halt noch aus der Zeit, als Fernschreiber als I/O-Geraete benutzt
2803			wurde, und ein Fernschreiber, der druckt, kann per Definition kein
2804			Backspace o.ae. haben - Tipp-Ex-Baender waren nicht eingebaut :)
2805			- und es gibt eben noch Systeme, die zum lokalen Login diese STTY-
2806			Settings benutzen. Seit wir die VT100-Terminals abgebaut haben,
2807			ist das fuer Studenten weniger relevant, unser BV behandelt aber
2808			alle Benutzer.
2809			Doppelkreuz: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Erase-Zeichen
2810			Prozent: Mift, das hab' ich mir nicht aufgeschrieben, geht aber auch in
2811			irgendeinem System nicht. Vielleicht sollte man es mal wieder
2812			probieren (bis es knallt)?
2813			Doppelte Anfuehrungszeichen: Wurden von Radius als Begrenzer benutzt. Ja,
2814			der Radius-Server funktionierte nur mit Klartext-Passwoertern :(
2815			Ja, funktionierte, Vergangenheitsform, er ist jetzt endlich tot :)
2816			Ja, damit kann ich die doppelten Anfuehrungszeichen freigeben :)
2817			Paragraph: ist kein ASCII-Zeichen. Das kann die lustigsten Probleme geben,
2818			insbesondere wenn verschiedene encodings benutzt werden - IMHO gibt
2819			es auch Implementierungen, die das 8. Bit wegschneiden...
2820	root	1.424	%
2821	root	1.389	[subversion is just plain broken. I just lost all my local modifications, right?]
2822
2823			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2824			svn: Working copy '.' locked
2825			svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2826			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn cleanup
2827			svn: 'programs/mythlcd' is not a working copy directory
2828			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2829			svn: Working copy '.' locked
2830			svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2831			cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn help cleanup
2832			cleanup: Recursively clean up the working copy, removing locks, resuming
2833			unfinished operations, etc.
2834			usage: cleanup [PATH...]
2835
2836			Valid options:
2837			--diff3-cmd arg : use ARG as merge command
2838			--config-dir arg : read user configuration files from directory ARG
2839
2840			[Thanks for the details. Not.]
2841	root	1.424	%
2842	root	1.388	But there's an observation I can't help doing: it seems to me that the
2843			ratio of increase in the complexity of (some aspects of) the language _is_
2844			_much_ _bigger_ than that in the functionality such complexity is supposed
2845			to provide.
2846			- perl6-language - michele dondi
2847	root	1.424	%
2848	root	1.386	[From: perl6-language]
2849
2850			The fact that there's not alot of active p5p'ers on this list should
2851			alarm people more.
2852
2853			-Nate
2854
2855			[...]
2856
2857			My take on that is that it is because Perl 6 is not a new version of
2858			Perl 5. I still think "Perl" is a misleading name, and mostly hurts the
2859			image of the language that is created here.
2860
2861			Juerd
2862
2863			[...]
2864
2865			(Oh, and that perl6 will never be able to upgrade my scripts that use
2866			'format', but I'm aware of the plan to make that `obsolete' as in: the
2867			perl526 translator will dump core on those)
2868
2869	root	1.432	--
2870	root	1.386	H.Merijn Brand
2871	root	1.387	%
2872	root	1.385	Die Firma Microsoft warnte asiatische Regierungen am Donnerstag,
2873	root	1.388	dass diese patentrechtlich verklagt werden könnten, wenn sie das
2874	root	1.385	Betriebssystem Linux anstelle von Microsoft's Windows-Software einsetzen.
2875			Nachrichtenagentur Reuters (18. November 2004)
2876	root	1.387	%
2877	root	1.384	[Come on, "kidtalk"???]
2878			http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx
2879	root	1.387	%
2880	root	1.383	[Priceless :)]
2881			http://www.scottmccloud.com/comics/icst/icst-6/icst-6-full.html
2882	root	1.387	%
2883	root	1.382	[http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/15/1312216&from=rss]
2884			>> I hate it whenever Word tries to encourage me not to use passive.
2885			[...]
2886			> Okay then, translate "The window has been broken" into active voice.
2887			"Windows is broken."
2888	root	1.387	%
2889	root	1.381	[Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon on the perl6-language list:]
2890			Removing features simply because their implementation is inconvenient
2891			is not The Perl Way. If it were, Perl 6 would be Java With Sigils.
2892	root	1.387	%
2893	root	1.380	[Incidentally, the USoA is one of the two countries on earth that insist
2894			on being able to kill their children legally]
2895			http://www.post-gazette.com/breaking/20040329pornp6.asp
2896	root	1.387	%
2897	root	1.379	[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test]
2898			The Miller test is the United States Supreme Court's test for determining
2899			whether speech or expression can be labeled obscene [...]
2900	root	1.387	%
2901	root	1.377	[http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050923-5346.html]
2902			"They find the anti-pornography crowd disturbing because they believe
2903			that policing pornography violates fundamental rights. This has become
2904			the dominant view in our society: As long as what I do doesn't harm you
2905			personally, I have a right to do it. It's a silly view and a view rejected
2906			by law enforcement policies all over the country."
2907	root	1.378	--
2908			"What we really need is less government and more common sense. The Bush
2909			administration thinks it can win the war in iraq, the war on terror, the
2910			war on drugs, and the war on smut while establishing a lunar colony and
2911			rebuilding New Orleans, all without raising taxes. He really needs a
2912			reality check. I can't believe that with all of this crap going on, Tom
2913			DeLay has the balls to claim that the republican party has eliminated
2914			wasteful government spending."
2915	root	1.387	%
2916	root	1.376	[Attaching 72lbs to spam-reply-envelopes is legal. Do it!]
2917			http://www.vertical-visions.com/_temp/postagepaid/index2.html
2918	root	1.387	%
2919	root	1.375	[Charley Tart on Consensus Trance: <SLAP> <SLAP> Wake up!]
2920			http://www.cantrip.org/charles_tart.html
2921	root	1.387	%
2922	root	1.375	["It's such a moving story, it must be true"]
2923			http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=246277
2924	root	1.387	%
2925	root	1.374	[Pencil Carving]
2926			http://www.infofreako.com/jad/enpitsu-e.html
2927	root	1.387	%
2928	root	1.374	[Copyright]
2929	root	1.373	http://www.bromsun.com/practice/copyrights/flowchart.html
2930	root	1.387	%
2931	root	1.372	[Die Wirtschaft befreit die Menschen von der Arbeit]
2932			http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/stz/page/detail.php/949236
2933	root	1.387	%
2934	root	1.432	23:10 <mmead> schmorp: A federal appeals court ruled today that the president can indefinitely detain a U.S. citizen
2935			captured on U.S. soil in the absence of criminal charges, holding that such authority is vital to protect the
2936	root	1.371	nation from terrorist attacks.
2937	root	1.432	23:10 <mmead> A congressional resolution after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks "provided the President all powers
2938			necessary and appropriate to protect American citizens from terrorist attacks by those who attacked the United
2939	root	1.371	States on Sept. 11,'' the decision said.
2940	root	1.432	23:10 <mmead> The decision by a three-judge panel was written by Judge J. Michael Luttig, who sources have said is under
2941			consideration by President Bush for nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court.
2942	root	1.387	%
2943	root	1.370	[Looks extreme]
2944			http://www.counterpunch.org/
2945	root	1.387	%
2946	root	1.369	[Some glimpse of what happened in New Orleans]
2947			"As we approached the bridge, armed Gretna sheriffs formed a line across the
2948			foot of the bridge. Before we were close enough to speak, they began firing
2949			their weapons over our heads."
2950			http://www.livejournal.com/users/malbec/1052572.html
2951	root	1.387	%
2952	root	1.368	[Global Average Temperature vs. Number of Pirates]
2953			http://www.sheise.de/files/PirateGraph.jpg
2954	root	1.387	%
2955	root	1.367	[http://www.fefe.de/nowindows/]
2956			Many people using Windows don't care about their freedom. They do care
2957			about quality software and for that reason try to replace all the user
2958			space software from Microsoft with better free alternatives. This is the
2959			sole reason for the existance of cygwin.
2960	root	1.387	%
2961	root	1.366	[http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/trusted_computing/20031001_tc.php]
2962	root	1.387	%
2963	root	1.366	The TCG has resisted defining "owner" for purposes of their spec, despite
2964			several requests for clarification.
2965
2966			Think of it this way: most computer-related "stuff" now has a "licensed,
2967			not sold" tag attached. Ask yourself again, then, who has ultimate control
2968			unter TCG definitions.
2969	root	1.387	%
2970	root	1.366	But rememer they aren't doing anything wrong and they aren't trying to
2971			force anything on you. It is all opt-in and you always get to set the
2972			policy on your computer. It's just that nothing works any more unless you
2973			do opt-in and you do set your policy exactly they way they tell you to.
2974	root	1.387	%
2975	root	1.366	It's not coercion. It's for security. It helps the economy. It thwarts
2976			terrorists. TPM gives flags to orphans if that's what it needs to do to
2977			get people on board.
2978			%
2979	root	1.365	To have a secure computer, you must download the latest
2980			patches. Therefore, you must upgrade to SP4, and therefore, you must
2981			accept the EULA that requires you to agree with Microsoft's proprietary
2982			DRM.
2983
2984			The end is near. Security patches will soon require your body to be
2985			injected with RFID. Surely, we are all doomed.
2986	root	1.387	%
2987	root	1.364	[http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/09/01/1419222.shtml?tid=172&tid=109]
2988			switch ($decade) {
2989			case "the 50's":
2990			s/the Boogyman/Communist agitators/g;
2991			break;
2992			case "the 60's":
2993			s/the Boogyman/acid-eating hippies/g;
2994			break;
2995			case "the 70's":
2996			s/the Boogyman/disco/g;
2997			break;
2998			case "the 80's":
2999			s/the Boogyman/mutual assured destruction (and Grenada!)/g;
3000			break;
3001			case "the 90's":
3002			s/the Boogyman/evil hackers and George Michael/g;
3003			break;
3004			case "the 00's":
3005			s/the Boogyman/terrorists/g;
3006			break;
3007			}
3008	root	1.387	%
3009	root	1.363	http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2005/08/curiosities-from-japans-porno-shops.html
3010
3011			"How fucking creepy is that? As you can see from the flyer included
3012			in the capsule (note the kiddie crayon font), the other toys in the
3013			assortment include little girls spreading their legs, little girls sucking
3014			suggestively on popsicles, and little girls dry-humping their teddy bears"
3015
3016			"Interestingly enough, none of the cans were very long - maybe six inches
3017			at the most. I was trying to avoid the whole Asian-men-have-small-penises
3018			thing, but they kind of handed it to me on a silver platter."
3019
3020			""Maybe I should just try it. Just see what it feels like..." I mean,
3021			why not, right? You know. Just for kicks, right? So you know what? I
3022			fucked it. Yeah. I fucked a plastic beer can. I fucked the shit out of
3023			that can. And you know what? It felt alright. It did the trick. That
3024			is, until it was all over. Until the moment after, when I was hit by a
3025			sobering freight train of humility, looking down at my dick stuck inside a
3026			latex vagina housed in a plastic beer can. Moments like that you start to
3027			question everything - "How the hell did it come to this? Who am I? What am
3028			I doing with my life?" I probably sat there for an hour, silently with my
3029			plastic lover, pondering my existence."
3030	root	1.387	%
3031	root	1.362	"The scholars of Islam, such as Malik, Ash-Shafi`i, Ahmad and Ishaaq said
3032			that (the person guilty of this crime) should be stoned, whether he is
3033			married or unmarried."
3034
3035			http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547102
3036			http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/02/Article01-0.shtml
3037			http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/07/Article02.shtml
3038			http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545556
3039			http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543324
3040	root	1.387	%
3041	root	1.362	http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503546996
3042
3043			[I like this comparison between of and watching television:]
3044			Your brother is not at all different from those who have been conditioned
3045			to fornicate, or commit theft or murder, or who have become addicted to
3046			watching pornography or even television for that matter. All of these
3047			are destructive habits that one learns through continuous exposure or
3048			conditioning.
3049
3050			[And this is religion at its best:]
3051			Let him continuously read, reflect and meditate on the verses of the
3052			Qur'an that deal with the punishment meted to the nation who practiced
3053			this abomination; let him also read the verses depicting hell fire.
3054	root	1.387	%
3055	root	1.361	[Racism]
3056			http://www.flickr.com/photos/firewall/38725768/
3057	root	1.387	%
3058	root	1.360	[A link, just a link]
3059			http://www.oilcrisis.com/
3060	root	1.387	%
3061	root	1.359	As you may have noticed, the HOWTO is getting stale, you can't subscribe to
3062			the mailinglist and a lot of messages sent to it aren't getting through.
3063
3064			I apologise for this.
3065
3066			If all goes well I'll get my driver's license this Tuesday, which will allow
3067			me to visit the server, which I can't easily reach right now.
3068	root	1.387	%
3069	root	1.358	PSYC @> el says: von java bekommt man krebs
3070			induktiv says: java is ein riesiger marketing misthaufen voll mit code von uebereifrigen fh-programmierern
3071			el says: ich kenn da wen
3072			el says: bei dem wars so
3073			[...]
3074			PSYC @> el says: und.. naja, der hat also ganz viel java programmiert
3075			el says: und bekam augenkrebs
3076			el says: gehirntumor auch
3077			el says: ich weiss nicht, was vorher da war
3078	root	1.387	%
3079	root	1.357	wget http://el.l.tobij.de/ratz.jpg && xsetbg ratz.jpg
3080	root	1.387	%
3081	root	1.356	[in a reply to a school work assignment about proving why env vars make
3082			no sense in the kernel]
3083			From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
3084
3085			[...]
3086
3087			Mathematical proofs are accomplished within a framework of mathematical
3088			models.
3089
3090			In the postmodern time period and we gave up belief that the mathematical
3091			models are an accurate representation of reality. We only expect that
3092			they are sufficiently accurate for the purposes at hand.
3093	root	1.387	%
3094	root	1.354	[such nice quotes from http://theinquirer.net/?article=24638]
3095			There will be EF devices, EF branded content and probably EF branded
3096			contraceptives to use while watching EF branded porn.
3097			--
3098			Any DRM on a machine is simply a sign of failure.
3099	root	1.355	--
3100			This crushing DRM that is being foisted upon you is the surest sign that
3101			you don't want this product, and you will be paying too much for it. Don't
3102			like that? Bought legislators are hard at work making sure you will go to
3103			jail if you try to exercise your rights on the issue.
3104	root	1.387	%
3105	root	1.353	An absolutely fascinating interview with Robert Pape, a University of
3106			Chicago professor who has studied every suicide terrorist attack since
3107			1980. "The central fact is that overwhelmingly suicide-terrorist
3108			attacks are not driven by religion as much as they are by a clear
3109			strategic objective: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military
3110			forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland."
3111			<http://www.amconmag.com/2005_07_18/article.html>
3112			[From: CRYPTO-GRAM 2005-08-15]
3113	root	1.387	%
3114	root	1.352	[If you are a US citizen, you might want to fight for the right to vote,
3115			which you currently do not posess]
3116			http://reclaimdemocracy.org/political_reform/right_to_vote.html
3117	root	1.387	%
3118	root	1.388	Kind: "Daad! Die alten Griechen mußten 44 Arten der Selbstverteidigung lernen, ohne Waffen!"
3119			Vater: "Dafür haben wir eine zweistufige elektrische Heckenschere."
3120	root	1.351	[Nach: Time Bandits]
3121	root	1.387	%
3122	root	1.350	http://www.cpmission.com/main/painpolitics/mdjackson.html
3123	root	1.387	%
3124	root	1.349	Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off
3125			a horse.." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse.."
3126	root	1.387	%
3127	root	1.432	Tcl is LISP on drugs. Using strings instead of S-expressions for closures
3128			is Evil with one of those gigantic E's you can find at the beginning of
3129			paragraphs.
3130	root	1.387	%
3131	root	1.347	[the average IQ seems to be declining]
3132			http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000953.html
3133			http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/
3134	root	1.387	%
3135	root	1.346	[http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/07/31/0626257.shtml?tid=153&tid=98&tid=95&tid=103&tid=219]
3136			> If you know anything, most catholics register as democrats
3137
3138			Most catholics aren't American.
3139	root	1.387	%
3140	root	1.345	[Some things possibly cannot exist...]
3141
3142			[http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/depleted-uranium.html]
3143			In NEWS1920, we demonstrated how America's widespread usage of Depleted
3144			Uranium munitions is fulfilling the prophetic End of the Age prophecy
3145			against Babylon (Iraq). Now, we examine how our D.U. is quite possibly
3146			fulfilling another major prophecy: Revelation 6:3-4
3147
3148			[http://cuttingedge.org/detail.cfm?ID=939]
3149			How Mormon Temples Are Built To Be Demon Magnets
3150	root	1.387	%
3151	root	1.344	[http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/23/egypt.explosions/index.html]
3152			Asked whether he thought the blasts might be related to Islam, he
3153			replied, "What Islam? This terrorism has nothing to do with any religion,
3154			because all religions do not allow aggression and do not allow killing
3155			civilians in innocence. Those don't belong to Muslims. They are a gang of
3156			criminals."
3157	root	1.387	%
3158	root	1.343	The Black Hole in the Galactic Center
3159			[http://www.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de/staff/hfalcke/bh/sld1.html]
3160	root	1.387	%
3161	root	1.342	To me anything above 30 fps is good and 45-50 is amazing... 75 is more
3162			than I've seen lol. Then again I come from a mac
3163	root	1.387	%
3164	root	1.341	[There are things the US congress can do that were far beyond my imagination]
3165			http://reason.com/rauch/99_08_07.shtml
3166	root	1.387	%
3167	root	1.340	The MSI MS-9130 (K8T Master2-FAR) is an excellent board. The only problem
3168			I had was with my video card shorting out and frying both the board and
3169			card (They went up in flames).
3170	root	1.387	%
3171	root	1.432	05:46 <mmead> AP and UPI reported that the French government announced yesterday that
3172			it has raised its terror alert level from "run" to "hide." The only two
3173			higher levels in France are "surrender" and "collaborate." The action
3174			was precipitated by the recent fire which destroyed one of France's
3175	root	1.338	white flag factories, disabling their military.
3176	root	1.432	05:47 <mmead> it's obviously been recirculated recently:
3177	root	1.339	http://www.edthibodeau.com/nonplussed/2004/10/french_terror_a.html
3178	root	1.387	%
3179	root	1.337	[The following quote from a NASA press release shows impressively how much
3180			we know. And more importantly, how to build up scientific knowledge part
3181			by part. "Knowledge" always has a margin-of-error inherently attached to it.]
3182
3183			"The cloud indicated the comet is covered in the powdery stuff."
3184
3185			[http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/text/di_pr_20050708.txt]
3186	root	1.387	%
3187	root	1.336	[http://www.skippy.net/blog/2005/06/09/security-through-stupidity/]
3188			Silly questions abound, all to cover people's butts. When I moved to
3189			the US in 1992 (from Canada), one of the questions on my green card
3190			application was "Do you, or any member of your immediate family, plan to
3191			violently overthrow the government of the United States or assasinate any
3192			elected official?" Not only did they have checkboxes for "yes" and "no",
3193			but they had a blank space labelled, "If you checked 'yes', please provide
3194			a detailed explanation in the space below." I never figured out what kind
3195			of explanation would make them give you a green card anyway.
3196			--
3197			Hasbro should ask the same. Teddy Ruxpin chips were found on a number
3198			of landmines during the first gulf war... First, we just thought these
3199			people REALLY hate Teddy Ruxpin, maybe we're not so different after all...
3200			but on further investigation, Ruxpin had easily-programmable EEPROMs, so
3201			the Ruxpin chip was actually being repurposed as a controller for the
3202			explosives. They were jackin' overseas deliveries to get the Ruxpins.
3203	root	1.387	%
3204	root	1.335	http://graphics.stanford.edu/~danielrh/vote/vote.html
3205			The Obfuscated V contest
3206	root	1.387	%
3207	root	1.335	Airplane security is getting surreal: "...FAA regulation that requires
3208			soldiers -- all of whom were armed with an arsenal of assault rifles,
3209			shotguns and pistols -- to surrender pocket knives, nose hair scissors and
3210			cigarette lighters."
3211			http://tinyurl.com/7z8my
3212	root	1.387	%
3213	root	1.334	<http://babygimp.sourceforge.net/>
3214			Does it run under Windows ?
3215			- Who cares?
3216	root	1.387	%
3217	root	1.333	[Can hot water freeze faster than cold water?]
3218	root	1.332	http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html
3219	root	1.387	%
3220	root	1.331	http://www.physik3.gwdg.de/~rgeisle/nld/sbsl-howto.html
3221			Single Bubble Sonoluminescence HOWTO
3222			[...]
3223			Don't bother me with "my bottle exploded, what was wrong?"-stuff; While the bottle is heated it mustn't be closed!
3224			[...]
3225			Darken your room completely. Adapt your eyes, which may take 15 minutes up
3226			to half an hour. Look at the flask or at least where you think your flask
3227			is (remember: the room is completely darkened).
3228	root	1.387	%
3229	root	1.329	[de.alt.ufo]
3230	root	1.432	> Ja, stimmt - ich hatte mich früher viel mit Leuten beschäftigt, die
3231			> wahrscheinlich entführt wurden, oder bei denen es den Anschein hatte. Im
3232			> Moment beschäftige ich mich mit der Konstruktion eines kleinen UFO-
3233	root	1.388	> Detektors, der die UFO- Ereignisse auch zählt.-
3234	root	1.330	> www.ufo-finder.de
3235	root	1.432	> Aber Feld-Forscher bin ich deshalb noch nicht. Das geht gesundheitlich nicht
3236	root	1.330	> mehr!
3237			> richy.
3238
3239			Und es gibt wirklich Deppen, die sich von dir abzocken lassen??
3240	root	1.387	%
3241	root	1.330	[de.alt.ufo]
3242	root	1.329	> Wie kann ich online etwas belegen, das sich in der Vergangenheit
3243			> zugetragen hat?
3244
3245			Das solltest Du Dich selbst mal fragen. Wenn Du es nicht belegen kannst,
3246			warum behauptest Du es dann?
3247	root	1.388	[später]
3248			> Ach, wenn es interessant wird, umfängt Dich Faulheit?
3249	root	1.329
3250			Bei dir ist das angemessen, du hast deinen Ruf weg.
3251			Du plapperst immer nur von Belegen, verlangst letzten Endes
3252			naturwissenschaftliche/physikalische Beweise (genaugenommen:
3253			ein Alien-craft zum Vorfuehren), darunter akzeptierst du nichts,
3254			aber das stellt sich erst nach ellenlangen threads heraus.
3255
3256			Aber das ist bekannt, und eigentlich belanglos.
3257
3258			Wer sich auf Debatten mit dir einlaesst und Argumente erwartet
3259			von jemand, der die Wissenschaft zur Ersatzreligion verquast,
3260			ist eigentlich selbst schuld.
3261	root	1.387	%
3262	root	1.388	[de.alt.ufo, über einen www.rtl.de-news-Artikel]
3263	root	1.328	Wie die Skepsos so schoen sagen: der Verfasser von dem Quark war so offen,
3264			dem ist das Gehirn rausgefallen.
3265	root	1.387	%
3266	root	1.327	[res_nsend.c]
3267			/* give the hook another try */
3268			if (++loops < 42) /doug adams/
3269			break;
3270	root	1.387	%
3271	root	1.326	[sr_port/mdq.h]
3272	root	1.432	/* Insert a doubly-linked list of elements from "n->q.fl" to "n->q.bl"
3273	root	1.326	in between "o" and "o->q.fl" */
3274			#define dqadd(o,n,q) ((o)->q.fl->q.bl=(n)->q.bl,(n)->q.bl->q.fl=(o)->q.fl,(o)->q.fl=(n)->q.fl,(n)->q.fl->q.bl=(o))
3275	root	1.387	%
3276	root	1.325	Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
3277	root	1.387	%
3278	root	1.324	* Andreas Waechter <mail@andreas-waechter.de> [06-25-05 00:58]:
3279	root	1.432	> No, Thunderbird should not "reply" to the list with the
3280	root	1.324	> current settings of the list.
3281	root	1.432	>
3282			> There is no "Reply-To" header, thus a "Reply" has to go to
3283			> the address in the "From" header - which is the address of
3284	root	1.324	> the original sender, not the list.
3285	root	1.432	>
3286			> The List address is in the "To" field. Thus only a "Reply
3287			> All" will go to the list as CC (and to the original sender
3288	root	1.324	> as TO).
3289	root	1.432	>
3290	root	1.324	> Don't blame my mail client for the set-up of the list.
3291
3292			Your mail client is not being blamed. It is your
3293			responsibility. No one disputes your choice of mail client, but it
3294			is your responsibility to see that your posts are properly
3295			addressed to the list, not the list's software or the people you are
3296			being discourteous to.
3297
3298			The fault is all yours. It is/was your choice.
3299			--
3300			Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535
3301	root	1.387	%
3302	root	1.323	[http://www.heise.de/ct/00/20/104/]
3303	root	1.388	"Sie können mit falschen Tatsachen Leute überzeugen, das ist nun mal so."
3304	root	1.387	%
3305	root	1.322	An appeals court in Minnesota has ruled that the presence of encryption
3306			software [PGP] on a computer may be viewed as evidence of criminal intent.
3307			http://www.granick.com/archive/2005_05_01_theshout_archive.html#1117581
3308			http://news.com.com/Minnesota+court+takes+dim+view+of+encryption/2100-1030_3-5718978.html
3309			http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/archive/ctappub/0505/opa040381-0503.htm
3310	root	1.387	%
3311	root	1.322	[http://www.komotv.com/stories/37150.htm]
3312			"They said 'no' and they said it's a national security issue. And I said
3313			what about my constitutional rights? And they said 'not at this point ...
3314			you don't have any'."
3315	root	1.323
3316			[I also am very fond of this quote:]
3317			"My concern is that if that's the way they're treating American citizens I
3318			would hate to think how they're treating other people. It's crazy."
3319			[Don't they have _any_ ethics?? What about equality? Ah well, I forgot...]
3320	root	1.387	%
3321	root	1.321	[http://wiki.ffii.org/CampIcecream050601En]
3322			Yes its true! If you go down to Place du Luxembourg from now until
3323			3pm, you can collect your free icecream and support the Computer
3324			Implemented Inventions Common Position!
3325	root	1.387	%
3326	root	1.319	[http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation/algorithm/upconversion/index.htm]
3327			The change from Blitz to standard arrays had little effect on the
3328			execution time so I stuck with the standard type. The standard arrays
3329			should be more acceptable to developers who want to modify the code.
3330			Insisting that the developer use a certain array container for no good
3331			reason will not win many fans.
3332
3333			[http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation.html has other nice
3334			documents in the algorithm section]
3335	root	1.387	%
3336	root	1.318	["Blue in the Face"]
3337			Ich kriege in New York keine Angst, nein... aber in Schweden...da isses
3338			irgendwie so leer und da sind alle betrunken... und alles funktioniert...
3339			und, naja, wnen du an einer roten Ampel den motor nicht abstellst, reden
3340			die leute mit dir.... die zeigen da im fernsehen ohrenoperationen...
3341
3342			Solche dinge machen mir Angst... nicht New York.
3343	root	1.387	%
3344	root	1.317	And before I forget it, readers fascinated by the idea of Central
3345			Europeans using A6 as a toilet paper size might also be interested to hear
3346			that the U.S. have for the same application field a standard square format
3347	root	1.388	of 4.5×4.5 in = 114×114 mm, which is for instance documented in New Jersey
3348	root	1.317	Specification No. 7572-01 (May 1997), section 2.3.
3349			[http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html]
3350	root	1.387	%
3351	root	1.316	[Better know what they actually do...]
3352	root	1.388	[Technische Richtlinie / Telekommunikationsüberwachung]
3353	root	1.316	http://www.regtp.de/imperia/md/content/tech_reg_t/ueberwachu/TR_TKUE_Ausgabe_4.1_29-11-2004.pdf
3354	root	1.315	[RFC3924 Cisco Architecture for Lawful Intercept in IP Networks]
3355			ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3924.txt
3356	root	1.387	%
3357	root	1.314	[rfc4096]
3358			The FTC called a summit of leading thinkers, and the regulation was
3359			amended to read "but don't use languages that go from right to left
3360			or up and down instead of plain old left to right." Needless to say,
3361			the reaction from the Freedonian League for the Defense of Linguistic
3362			Diversity killed that proposed regulation really quickly.
3363	root	1.387	%
3364	root	1.313	[just a really nice md5sum]
3365			99421268df476006401f11f96b655248
3366	root	1.387	%
3367	root	1.312	[a comment in some g729 sample implementation]
3368	root	1.432	* For G.729(,A,B) royalty payments, see http://www.sipro.com
3369	root	1.312	* WARNING: please make sure you are sitting down before looking
3370			* at their price list.
3371	root	1.387	%
3372	root	1.311	[http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=139347&cid=11665921]
3373			You'd think I was overgeneralizing, but I'm not. Absolutely every single
3374			time I see HN in use, I quickly end up learning that the programmer who
3375			wrote the code was an idiot. On at least two separate occasions, I've
3376			had to correct C code with HN that did not allocate space for the null
3377			terminator on any strings anywhere in the code. That's pretty much the
3378			level of programming talent you can expect when you see HN in use.
3379	root	1.387	%
3380	root	1.309	21:22 <mmead> tiger's SMB support is fucking broken
3381			21:26 <oesi> mmead: when you grow up, you will substitute "'s SMB support" by "" :)
3382	root	1.387	%
3383	root	1.308	03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> ich dachte immer alle beinhaltet mehr als 1
3384			03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> aba naja
3385			03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <oesi> nein, viele beinhaltet mehr als 1
3386			03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <bani_> stimmt auch wieder
3387	root	1.387	%
3388	root	1.319	[ein so gut geschriebenes dokument erwartet man eigentlich nicht mal vom BSI]
3389	root	1.307	http://www.bsi.bund.de/literat/studien/antispam/antispam.pdf
3390	root	1.387	%
3391	root	1.306	[some SPAM]
3392			Freie Geschlechtabbildungen und -filme. Und Phasennetznocken
3393	root	1.387	%
3394	root	1.305	cowsay -f head-in oink \| cowthink -n -f sodomized
3395	root	1.387	%
3396	root	1.304	[star wars episode guide]
3397			1 =Epichode 1: The Phantom Grimace
3398			2 =Epichode 2: Attack of the Groans
3399			3 =Epichode 3: Revenge of the Shit
3400			4 = Episode 4: A New Hope
3401			5 = Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back(By far the best Star Wars film. One of the finest movies ever made.)
3402			6 = Episode 6: Return of the Jedi(would have been a thousand times cooler if the ewoks had been Wookies).
3403			[http://www.beggingtodiffer.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=pp;action=display;num=1113843411]
3404	root	1.387	%
3405	root	1.300	[God knows his enemies]
3406			http://sheise.de/files/GODvsBUSH.gif
3407	root	1.302	[Uh-oh, "se germans are next"]
3408	root	1.303	http://sheise.de/files/cnn_iraq.jpg [a fake, but nevertheless]
3409	root	1.387	%
3410	root	1.299	http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054743/
3411	root	1.301	[Why is it that every good Hollywood movie is at least 30+ years old?]
3412	root	1.387	%
3413	root	1.298	[http://www.bildblog.de/]
3414	root	1.388	Die "Bild"-Zeitung schreibt Blödsinn, und alle schreiben's ab. Die
3415			rührende Geschichte von den "Unfallforschern", die angeblich "ermittelt"
3416			hätten, was doch nur eine schlichte Umrechnung von Stundenkilometern in
3417	root	1.298	Meter pro Sekunde ist, zieht Kreise.
3418
3419			Nachrichtenagentur ddp, 3. Mai, 03:16 Uhr:
3420
3421			Laut "Bild" ermittelten Unfallforscher, dass ein Auto bei einer
3422			Geschwindigkeit von 50 Kilometern pro Stunde etwa 14 Meter pro Sekunde
3423	root	1.388	ungebremst weiterfährt, während der Fahrer nach einer fallengelassenen
3424	root	1.298	Zigarette sucht.
3425
3426			Nachrichtenagentur AFP, 3. Mai, 04:25 Uhr:
3427
3428			[usw.]
3429
3430			Bei "Stern Online" ist aus den "Unfallforschern" schon eine ganze "Studie"
3431	root	1.388	geworden, die plötzlich zu Ergebnissen kommt, die nur scheinbar mit den
3432	root	1.298	bekannten "Ermittlungen" identisch sind:
3433
3434			Nach Auffassung des SPD-Verkehrsexperten Peter Danckert kann eine
3435			brennende Zigarette den Fahrer jedoch ebenso wie ein klingelndes
3436			Telefon ablenken. Er verwies auf eine Studie, nach der ein 50
3437			Stundenkilometer schnelles Auto mindestens 14 Meter weiterrolle, wenn
3438			der Fahrer nach einer Zigarette sucht.
3439	root	1.387	%
3440	root	1.388	[schlimmer als de.alt.ufo, schlimmer als jede Verarschung sein könnte...]
3441	root	1.297	http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2005/01/22/sonne__boese/sonne__boese.html
3442			http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2004/12/28/seebeben/zerreisst__unsere__erde.html
3443	root	1.387	%
3444	root	1.296	[http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=147629&cid=12370229]
3445			Which fanboy are you?
3446
3447			1. Windows
3448
3449			You wear wraparound sunglasses, even indoors. You wish your mother
3450			would let you ride a motorbike. You tell your friends you're pulling
3451			in $50,000 a year and $2,000 a month "playing the stock market" but
3452			in reality you're only bringing in half that and your dividends from
3453			MSFT havn't been good in years. Your non computing friends all turn
3454			to you for help; you only charge $30 an hour. Your collegues talk
3455			about you behind your back. Your workplace nickname is likely to be
3456			"The Asshole". Unlike the Linux fanboys, you actually try to pick up
3457			dates in bars but women laugh at you.
3458
3459			2. Apple
3460
3461			You think you're so cool you hurt. You have mirrors on every wall
3462			in your "loft apartment", which is really a grimy little apartment
3463			next to a guy who plays Guns 'n Roses at 3am. All of your furniture
3464			is from Ikea. You sometimes think that changing your name to "Steve"
3465			would be "pretty cool". When you go to bars you only drink Miller
3466			Lite. No body ever asks you for help with their computers because
3467			they know you don't know anything but OS X, even if you do tell them
3468			you "run Unix" now. Your friends openly laugh at you.
3469
3470			3. Linspire
3471
3472			You regularly give $10 bills to homeless guys because you have
3473			too much money. Computers baffle you, but you enjoy looking at
3474			pictures of naked women. You don't know what Linux is, but you
3475			continually bugged the IT guy at work about your computer so he
3476			installed Linspire on your machine.
3477
3478			4. Umbongo
3479
3480			You shop at GAP. You probably used to use a Mac. When you saw the
3481			multiracial image used as a desktop picture and heard that this
3482			operating system came from the same country as Nelson Mandela, you
3483			knew it was for you. You meet with your friends in fair-trade coffee
3484			houses and talk about the eventual overthrow of evil corporations
3485			such as Microsoft and Starbucks. Like the Linspire user, you have
3486			very little real knowlege when it comes to computers but you would
3487			never use your computer to look at pictures of women degrading
3488			themselves.
3489
3490			5. Gentoy
3491
3492			You've been "into computers" for ohh, one or two years now and fancy
3493			yourself as "a bit of a hacker". Wouldn't know C from C++, or even
3494			Perl for that matter. Older Gentoy users may be building their homes
3495			from matchsticks. You've explained to all your friends that your
3496			matchstick house will have an "optimised floorplan". They've tried
3497			to tell you that your house violates every known building code and
3498			law in your area, but you've ignored them so far because you can't
3499			read those complicated regulatory documents.
3500
3501			6. Linux From Scratch
3502
3503			Much like the Gentoy user but you'd also be into sadomasochistic
3504			sex if you could get it. You're not just building a house from
3505			matchsticks, you're planing to grow the trees to make the
3506			matchsticks. You've cleared some land but don't know what to do next
3507			because you havn't read the books you've got, so you've posted to
3508			alt.arborists.newbie asking for help. It's been three days so far
3509			and no one has replied. You remain hopeful.
3510	root	1.387	%
3511	root	1.295	[/usr/bin/cowsay]
3512			if (($^O eq "MSWin32") or ($^O eq "Windows_NT")) { ## Many perls, eek!
3513	root	1.387	%
3514	root	1.294	[A few days after the 6.0.9 release announcement]
3515
3516			In the spirit of release early, release often.... Err no, actually more
3517			in the spirit of, let's not try to lose data during file resolution...
3518
3519			Coda 6.0.10 is out
3520	root	1.387	%
3521	root	1.293	<opine@orifice2.com> wrote:
3522
3523			> > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:55:28 -0800, CrabRangoon wrote
3524	root	1.432	>
3525	root	1.388	> > Meine Großmutter hat einen kleinen Hinterhof und sie benutzt selten die
3526	root	1.293	> > Dusche. Bei vielen Gelegenheiten habe ich mehr als 4
3527	root	1.388	> > Lebensmittelgeschäftspeicher-Versorgungsmaterialien Sellerie an einem
3528			> > einzelnen Tag verbraucht. Würde es irgendein Benzin unter meiner Couch
3529			> > geben, wenn ich meine Hose bügelte?
3530	root	1.432	>
3531			> What does your granny's tiny ass have to do with this group? Other than the
3532	root	1.293	> smell attracting flies of course...
3533	root	1.432	>
3534	root	1.293	I figured a little non-native tongued nonsense would help keep this
3535			request near the top of the group. thanks for playing along.
3536	root	1.388	cheers and Haben Sie eine glückliche Karotte
3537	root	1.387	%
3538	root	1.432	00:24 <elmex> ich bin ja nur ein dummer niedersachse, der kaum was in der schule hatte
3539	root	1.387	%
3540	root	1.291	War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. -Ambrose Bierce
3541	root	1.387	%
3542	root	1.290	98% of the time I am right. Why worry about the other 3%.
3543	root	1.387	%
3544	root	1.289	[Bertram van Munster, Jerry Bruckheimers partner, interviewed in the BBC
3545			show "Correspondent"]
3546	root	1.288
3547			[...] I do reality television, and I've done this for many many many
3548			years, long before even anybody knew what reality was.
3549
3550			[so know we know who creates reality now]
3551			%
3552	root	1.287	[from wordnet]
3553			cock sucking, blowjob
3554			=> fellatio, fellation
3555			=> oral sex, head
3556			=> perversion, sexual perversion
3557			=> sexual activity, sexual practice, sex, sex activity
3558			=> bodily process, body process, bodily function, activity
3559			=> organic process, biological process
3560			=> process
3561			=> phenomenon
3562	root	1.387	%
3563	root	1.286	10:41 <oesi> [0]--(10:40:39)-(root@km)-(~/xxml)-> file tmon.out
3564			10:41 <oesi> tmon.out: ASCII Java program text
3565	root	1.387	%
3566	root	1.285	[SSK@J3GtFnEi8b~ko6mGvvXdrQoZ3D4PAgM,hhWspr43hLbvnrlkwxtDLg/ABC_NoJail/2//]
3567			[slightly edited]
3568			Largest prison population in the world is in the United States of America
3569			(in 2000: 2,071,686 persons, 22% of world prison population), it has more
3570			than double the prison population of Russia or China. What that means is
3571			that in USA 1 out of 143 residents are incarcerated.
3572
3573			About 88% of USA prison population is male, but female population is
3574			sharply on the rise, and might soon reach that of males, due mostly to new
3575			laws on terrorism and drugs.
3576
3577			Out of all the black males between 20 and 39, 12% are in custody (anybody
3578			told them about emancipation proclamation?).
3579	root	1.387	%
3580	root	1.284	"Begehe nur nicht den Fehler, Meinung durch Sachverstand zu substituieren."
3581			(PLemken, <bu6o7e$e6v0p$2@ID-31.news.uni-berlin.de>)
3582	root	1.387	%
3583	root	1.283	Mail::Box - 700MB of RSS to open a 30MB mail folder, one half of the
3584	root	1.282	advertised features doesn't work, while the other half is just buggy.
3585	root	1.387	%
3586	root	1.281	A ship is safe in harbor, but that is not what ships are built for.
3587	root	1.432	I learned that some cops lie. This was a brutal and profoundly disturbing
3588			realization: Those in control are not necessarily trustworthy.
3589	root	1.281	- Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
3590	root	1.387	%
3591	root	1.279	"parrot - from the people who brought you ithreads"
3592			- oesi
3593	root	1.387	%
3594	root	1.278	[US, Metric]
3595			http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/usmetric.html
3596	root	1.387	%
3597	root	1.432	[http://use.perl.org/~scrottie/journal]
3598	root	1.277	[I agree with that very much, most of his blog is really interesting]
3599	root	1.275	Sunday February 20, 2005 07:18 AM
3600			Minions Wanted [ 0 Comments \| #23269 ]
3601
3602			It's been about 10 years since I've had minions. They've all grown up,
3603			started painfully profitable companies, and now hob-knob whose-who of
3604			important and influential figures of their field. I'm growing old and
3605			increasinly mal-adapted to normal life. It's no longer becoming for me
3606			to leave my lair nor speak on the phone. I've reflected on making this
3607			post, and I've reflected at great length. Minions aren't what they used
3608			to be. Minions now days are soft and weak willed. In the old days, it was
3609			that minions would realize they can wield power if they're willing to
3610			spend a time subserviant to someone capable of teaching. Now days, kids
3611			have this notion that money only comes from the parents, power comes from
3612			your social (gag) circles, and glory comes from the things you own. They
3613			seek answers to Perl questions only for immediate gradification, not to
3614			truly master an insidious tactic and become a potent force. Kids now
3615			days, not nearly robust enough to be considered minion material. They,for
3616			their entire life, questioninglessly slide into being slaves of much
3617			more powerful overlords. They accept as payment for their servatude a
3618			few measily tens of thousands of dollars, and then only paid in payments
3619			yearly, calling that close enough to world domination, and inexchange
3620			for that paultry fee, deliver one after another innocent to the hands of
3621			Bill Gates, telling the clients they betray that Microsoft Windows is a
3622			servicable operating system and a supportable platform. While it is truly
3623			becoming to serve on the side of Microsoft, it is also well known the
3624			ranks are thin at the top but wide at the bottom, and few ever move past
3625			petty explotation of businesses and moronic home users.
3626
3627			This is not the stock I seek. These so short-sightedly driven by greed,
3628			rather than lusting for true power, amount to little more than orcs - a
3629			fodder of little use except as "consumers" in this modern age. It is far
3630			more becoming to hope to some day aspire to be an overlord of some small
3631			repute yourself and initially forego payment.
3632
3633			Minions in my service will be expected to endure maindane business-related
3634			tasks, such as answering the phone, but will always be allowed the
3635			basic dignity of being able to tell clients to "fuck off" when
3636			appropriate. Retaining dignity does not relieve the necessities of
3637			subordination, however. My minions may seek clarification but will never
3638			question me. For the term of their indenture, they will accept my teaching
3639			as truth itself. They will not seek short-cuts where I say there are none,
3640			and if I later reveal short-cuts, they will know it was because they were
3641			not yet ready before. While my young troglodytes will doubtless enterain
3642			perversion and drug abuse in their free time, they will go for the want of
3643			the very necessities of life should urgant cause arise.
3644
3645			In exchange, they will be tutored on the basic elements of evil and Perl
3646			programming and will share in the spoils of an insideous plot I've hatched
3647			some time ago to dupe large numbers of people out of money by playing on
3648			their greed and fear. Of course, in the interest of avoiding indictment
3649			myself, the details of the plot can never be revealed, but a clever
3650			student will quickly ascertain the nature of the ploy. After thier period
3651			of endenture, minions will have developed an eye for exploitation and
3652			trickery, but most importantly will have developed a deeper understanding
3653			of how things work - both in Perl and in the real world. They will see
3654			everything about them as quite potentially theirs - no program must go
3655			unwritten, and persuent to Free Trade Agreements, they will be as a
3656			sovereign nation.
3657
3658			While the offer is valid, this is a draft for a post on
3659			jobs.perl.org. Feedback is welcome - unless you're stupid, then stay the
3660			hell off my blog. Time and time again I forget both the power of TV to
3661			sap intelligence and the very prevelence of the thing. So let this be a
3662			test: if you watch more than half an hour a day of any programming besides
3663			CSPAN, don't post here.
3664
3665			-scott
3666	root	1.387	%
3667	root	1.274	But Mike Loughlin, who studied the boiling of lobsters when he was a
3668			University of Maine graduate student, said lobsters simply lack the brain
3669			capacity to feel pain.
3670
3671			"It's a semantic thing: No brain, no pain," said Loughlin, who now works
3672			as a biologist at the Maine Atlantic Salmon Commission.
3673	root	1.387	%
3674	root	1.273	Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp contextual F1 help & Crimson Editor in Windows
3675			From: Sven Neumann
3676
3677			Hi,
3678
3679	root	1.388	Rubén de Diego Martínez writes:
3680	root	1.432	> I also think that it's a bug. How may I report-it?
3681	root	1.273
3682			Go to http://support.microsoft.com/support/feedback/ and tell them
3683			that
3684
3685			ShellExecute (HWND_DESKTOP, "open", uri, NULL, NULL, SW_SHOWNORMAL);
3686
3687			does not do what you would expect it to do.
3688	root	1.387	%
3689	root	1.271	http://www.syslog.com/~jwilson/pics-i-like/kurios119.jpg
3690	root	1.272	the original comment says:
3691			This is probably part of an elaborate IQ test.
3692			Waiting at the gate means you fail.
3693	root	1.387	%
3694	root	1.271	{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} ich mir eine kolaflasche reingeschioebn
3695			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und dann ist meine klitoris erissen
3696			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und ich musste ins krankenhaus
3697			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} oh sorry, falsches fenster
3698			{Flat eric:Net-Knuddels} aja
3699			{Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} hi :)
3700	root	1.387	%
3701	root	1.275	[Java, like Delphi, requires manual destruction. Obvious, but still
3702	root	1.270	interesting read]
3703			http://www.octopull.demon.co.uk/java/ImmortalityAtaPrice.html
3704	root	1.387	%
3705	root	1.269	[Obscure Algorithms, just for my reference]
3706			http://aggregate.org/MAGIC/
3707			http://www.hackersdelight.org/HDcode.htm
3708	root	1.387	%
3709	root	1.268	In Los Angeles, the "HOLLYWOOD" sign is protected by a fence and a locked
3710			gate. Because several different agencies need access to the sign for
3711			various purposes, the chain locking the gate is formed by several locks
3712			linked together. Each of the agencies has the key to its own lock, and not
3713			the key to any of the others. Of course, anyone who can open one of the
3714			locks can open the gate.
3715
3716			This is a nice example of a multiple-user access-control system. It's
3717			simple, and it works. You can also make it as complicated as you want,
3718			with different locks in parallel and in series.
3719	root	1.387	%
3720	root	1.267	http://www.crypto.com/papers/safelocks.pdf
3721			Safecracking for the computer scientist
3722	root	1.387	%
3723	root	1.265	Fact: Something that you observe to be true.
3724
3725			Fact #1: when you drop a hammer, it falls to the ground
3726
3727			Fact #2: a genetic sequence can change sufficiently to form a new
3728			species. Speciation has been observed more than once in the laboratory
3729			and in the wild, so this is a fact. Since we call this process
3730			'evolution', that means evolution is a fact. Keep reading for more
3731			explanation of this.
3732
3733			Theory: An explanation of an observation
3734
3735			Theory #1: The theory of gravity is understood as a curvature in space,
3736			which explains why the hammer falls.
3737
3738			Theory #2: The Theory of Evolution through Natural Selection explains
3739			how a population's genome can change over time.
3740
3741	root	1.266	Law: Not really related to any of the other definitions. It's just a
3742			mathematical relationship between two values.
3743	root	1.265
3744			Law #1: If you double the distance from a source of light, the
3745			brightness falls off proportionally to the square of the distance.
3746
3747			Law #2: (expressed as a formula) F=ma. Force equals mass times
3748			acceleration.
3749
3750			Please note that Evolution is a fact, and the theory is called the Theory
3751			of Evolution through Natural Selection. There are other theories of
3752			evolution, which have been disproved. A famous one is the theory of
3753			evolution through acquired characteristics, also known as Lamarkian
3754			evolution. It posited that species evolve by acquiring and retaining
3755			useful characteristics through use. Therefore, a giraffe would have
3756			longer necks if the previous generations stretched their necks to reach
3757			high leaves. This was the main theory that Darwin and others showed to be
3758			false.
3759
3760			[by Profane MuthaFucka (574406)]
3761	root	1.387	%
3762	root	1.388	[Aus: Psychologie heute, 10/2003, über einen Artikel von Rentfrow/Gosling,
3763	root	1.264	Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 6/2003]
3764
3765			Fans von reflexiven und komplexen Musikstilen wie Klassik, Blues, Jazz und
3766			Folk sind offen, tolerant und machen gerne neue Erfahrungen. Sie halten
3767	root	1.388	sich für intelligent - und sind es auch. Außerdem können sie gut mit
3768			Worten umgehen, schätzen das schöne. haben eine starke Vorstellungskraft
3769			und sind politisch liberal eingestellt. Sie sind häufig etwas unsportlich
3770	root	1.264	und wollen andere nicht dominieren.
3771
3772	root	1.388	Anhänger von intensiven und rebellischen Musikrichtungen wie Heavy Metal,
3773			Rock und alternativer Musik sind offen für Experimente. Sie halten sich
3774			außerdem für intelligent, eloquent und sportlich. Obwohl die Musik, die
3775			sie bevorzugen, vorwiegend negatives ausdrückt, scheint dies nicht auf
3776			sie abzufärben: Sie sind weder neurotischer noch unverträglicher als die
3777			Fans anderer Musikrichtungen. Darüber hinaus sind sie wissensdurstig,
3778			risikobereit und körperlich aktiv.
3779	root	1.264
3780			Beschwingt und konventionell. So bezeichnen Rentfrow und Gosling
3781	root	1.388	Popsongs und Schmusehits, Countrymusik, Filmmusik und religiöse Musik
3782			(Spirituals, Gospels, Kirchenlieder). Wer diese Musik gerne hört, ist ein
3783			umgänglicher Zeitgenosse: Er geht gern aus sich heraus, ist verträglich,
3784			fröhlich, zuverlässig, hilfsbereit und gewissenhaft. Seine Einstellungen
3785	root	1.264	sind eher konservativ, Beredesamkeit und Offenheit sind nicht seine
3786	root	1.388	Stärken. Dafür hält er sich aber für attraktiv und vor allem für
3787	root	1.264	sportlich.
3788
3789	root	1.388	Wer sich für energetische und rhythmische Musik begeistern kann (Rap,
3790			Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, Electronica) trägt sein Herz auf der Zunge. Er
3791			ist umgänglich, quirlig, liberal eingestellt, extravertiert und ein
3792			wenig eitel: Er hält sich für attraktiv und sportlich. Konservatives
3793			Gedankengut und Dominanz über andere liegen ihm hingegen fern.
3794	root	1.264
3795	root	1.388	Die besten verbalen Fähigkeiten haben die Angehörigen der ersten beiden
3796	root	1.264	Gruppen. Am wenigsten beredt ist die dritte Gruppe. An analytischem
3797	root	1.388	Verstand mangelt es vor allen den Musikhörern der vierten Gruppe.
3798			während die erste Gruppe, gefolgt von der zweiten, am meisten davon
3799	root	1.264	vorzuweisen hat.
3800
3801			"Die intelligenteste Gruppe bevorzugt die komplexeste Musik", sagen die
3802			Forscher.
3803	root	1.387	%
3804	root	1.263	[Very well-written article on the legal foundazion of licensing, and
3805			the extreme difference in what a free software license does vs. a
3806			EULA-style license]
3807	root	1.262	http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/cores/2005/01/001453
3808	root	1.387	%
3809	root	1.261	The Pirate Bay is a BitTorrent tracking site in Sweden with 150,000 users
3810			a day. In the fall, it posted a torrent for Shrek 2. Dreamworks sent a
3811			cease-and-desist letter demanding the site remove it. One of the site's
3812			pseudonymous owners, Anakata, replied: "As you may or may not be aware,
3813			Sweden is not a state in the United States of America. Sweden is a country
3814			in northern Europe [and] US law does not apply here. ... It is the opinion
3815			of us and our lawyers that you are fucking morons." Shrek 2 stayed up.
3816	root	1.387	%
3817	root	1.260	Java is, in many ways, C++--. (Michael Feldman)
3818	root	1.387	%
3819	root	1.259	[Happy New Year]
3820			23:42 -!- zaphod [jkneer@fatboy.laendle] has quit [Quit: Hochhaus]
3821			Day changed to 01 Jan 2005
3822			00:24 <schmorp> re
3823	root	1.387	%
3824	root	1.258	[http://www.calsky.com/lexikon/de/txt/f/fe/fehlschluss.php]
3825	root	1.388	Im besten Fall kann die Verknüpfung zweier Tatsachen Verdachtsmomente
3826			liefern, die mit wissenschaftlichen Methoden abgeklärt werden
3827	root	1.258	sollen. Was eine wissenschaftliche Methode ist, ist Gegenstand anderer
3828			wissenschaftlicher Untersuchungen.
3829	root	1.387	%
3830	root	1.257	[funny page(s), although I think it's sad that people trying to "debunk"
3831			bad science theories are prone to the same logical fallacies as the
3832			proponents of such theories.]
3833			http://www.xs4all.nl/~mke/Planet-X.htm
3834			"On the Internet, there's a picture circulating that's supposedly `secret
3835			evidence' from Russia, proving Planet X is an inhabited world. The makers
3836			took the original photo (top left), enlarged it, and upgraded it with
3837			`solarize' and `find edges'. And look... Suddenly, you see all kinds of
3838			spaceships orbiting the planet! (top right) I followed exactly the same
3839			procedure, using a photo of one Robert Bridson, math student at Stanford
3840			University (below, left). After enlarging and solarizing the photograph,
3841			it became clear that mr. Bridsons left ear actually is inhabited by
3842			intelligent beings, since there clearly is a spaceship taking off from it
3843			(below, right)."
3844	root	1.387	%
3845	root	1.256	[wonderful info...]
3846			http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/
3847			[useful info...]
3848			http://www.snopes.com/
3849	root	1.387	%
3850	root	1.253	Computer analyst to programmer:
3851			"You start coding. I'll go find out what they want."
3852	root	1.387	%
3853	root	1.252	[Fun!]
3854			http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
3855	root	1.387	%
3856	root	1.388	[Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 11/2004, über Informationstransport im All]
3857	root	1.251	"Wenn unsere Vettern im Kosmos wirklich intelligent sind, werden ihre
3858			Computer sicher nicht mit Microsoft-Betriebssystemen ausgestattet sein."
3859	root	1.387	%
3860	root	1.250	[in our continued series, "solaris source code", today, /bin/true]
3861			ddev5:~$ cat /bin/true
3862			#!/usr/bin/sh
3863			# Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
3864			# All Rights Reserved
3865
3866			# THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
3867			# The copyright notice above does not evidence any
3868			# actual or intended publication of such source code.
3869
3870			#ident "@(#)true.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.4 */
3871	root	1.432	ddev5:~$
3872	root	1.387	%
3873	root	1.249	22:07 <elmex> schmorp: naja, es beweist das das konzept von java nicht funktioniert
3874			22:07 <schmorp> elmex: welches konzept?
3875			22:07 <elmex> das "hack dir die beine ab, und lauf nen marathon"-konzept ;)
3876	root	1.387	%
3877	root	1.248	[Gtk2/Makefile.PL]
3878			# win32 does not allow unresolved symbols in libraries, but
3879			# Gtk2 uses on symbols in the dll created for Glib.
3880			# so, we have to break all this nice abstraction and encapsulation
3881			# and find the actual Glib.dll and Glib.lib installed by perl when
3882			# the Glib module was built, and add it to the list of lib files.
3883			#
3884			# say it with me: "i hate win32."
3885	root	1.387	%
3886	root	1.388	Immerhin meint die Filmförderungsanstalt, im Jahr 2002 seien 59
3887	root	1.247	Millionen CD-Rohlinge von 5,9 Millionen Nutzern mit Filmen bespielt
3888			worden, im Durchschnitt also zwo:lf Rohlinge pro Anwender.
3889			-- <http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/see-08.04.03-000/>
3890	root	1.387	%
3891	root	1.246	http://otierney.net/images/perl6.gif
3892	root	1.387	%
3893	root	1.245	[http://www.kinderschaender.de/begriff.htm]
3894	root	1.388	Das einzige, was die Seite wirklich gezeigt hat, ist, daß es kaum Menschen
3895			gibt, die weiter denken als ein Schwein scheißt.
3896	root	1.387	%
3897	root	1.244	http://www.paulgraham.com/fix.html
3898			[I'd say ALL the essays on http://www.paulgraham.com/articles.html
3899			are readable, and in most cases I wholeheartedly agree with them.]
3900	root	1.387	%
3901	root	1.243	http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/security_report_windows_vs_linux/
3902	root	1.387	%
3903	root	1.243	[From: CRYPTO-GRAM]
3904			Bill Gates points out that all those IE security holes have not been
3905			Microsoft's fault. (The first step towards recovery is recognizing
3906			that you have a problem.)
3907			<http://slashdot.org/articles/04/10/15/015239.shtml?tid=109&tid=1>
3908	root	1.387	%
3909	root	1.242	[top output on redhat9, with one real-time priority process]
3910			PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME CPU COMMAND
3911	root	1.247	25788 root 18446744073709551565 0 10076 9.8M 2816 S 0.9 1.9 0:01
3912	root	1.242	26064 root 21 0 1508 1508 1184 S 0.3 0.2 0:00 0 curl
3913
3914			[I am continually amazed at how redhat is able to break utilities that worked
3915			and work on other distributions without flaws again and again and again...]
3916	root	1.387	%
3917	root	1.241	That depends. There is C++ and there is C++. There are many different
3918			sorts of C++, I'll talk about 2 of them:
3919
3920			Category 1 code is 'C with classes and on-the-fly variable
3921			declarations'. It uses macros, bad encapsulation, no const-correctness,
3922			etc. Category 1 code tends to either use object oriented programing
3923			exclusively, or use it combined with procedural programming. Other
3924			programming paradigms are extremely rare. It often uses non-portable hacks
3925			because Standard-knowledge is scarce among category 1 coders. Category 1
3926			code is seen mostly in Flipcode and Gamedev.net articles and forums. Also
3927			it is seen in almost every API ever developed by Microsoft. A slightly
3928			less bad version of category 1 code is seen in libraries that call
3929			themselves "high-quality C++ libraries" but that don't even use a single
3930			namespace and rely heavily on macros and other unsafe preprocessing
3931			techniques where this is totally unnecessary. Most of those libraries are
3932			that way because they were started before the 1998 C++ Standard's stuff
3933			got implemented in main-stream compilers.
3934
3935			Category 2 code is what I'd like to see as the meaning of the term
3936			"C++ code". It is Standard-compliant, uses multiple programming
3937			paradigms and is pushing the language to the max (and beyond ;) to
3938			create easy to use, efficient, highly-reusable and easy to extend
3939			programs/libraries/modules/etc. Unfortunately, category 2 code is
3940			hard to write when you have to work with incompetent compilers like
3941			MSVC6/7. Category 2 code is mostly seen in:
3942	root	1.387	%
3943	root	1.240	[On "Main Loop with Fixed Time Steps", a Windows programmer commented:]
3944	root	1.239
3945			Just to point out, With a tick being a maximum of FFFFFFFFh, you only
3946			have about 49 days of tick time since the system has started! Though I
3947			doubt any game or even system runs for that long.
3948	root	1.387	%
3949	root	1.238	[http://www.paulgraham.com/popular.html]
3950			"The best writing is rewriting," wrote E. B. White. Every good writer
3951			knows this, and it's true for software too.
3952	root	1.387	%
3953	root	1.237	> think it needs the Ultimate Refactor..."rm -rf programs/Xserver/GL"
3954
3955			... and I was told "rm -rf" means "read mail, really fast!"
3956			;)
3957	root	1.387	%
3958	root	1.235	[this is not a blogggggg]
3959			One fine day, I removed the "video=matrox:off" from my kernel commandline,
3960			having removed the matrox card from my machine months ago. Promptly, the
3961			proprietary nvidia driver greeted me with:
3962
3963			NVIDIA: Failed to map framebuffer memors
3964
3965	root	1.236	Adding the video option back made it work again. No, I do not have any
3966			framebuffer devices compiled into the kernel, either...
3967	root	1.387	%
3968	root	1.234	[taken out of a public mail by a journalist... I have never seen anybody
3969			using so many abbreviations...]
3970
3971			Hi Volker -
3972
3973			alles klar ..!? Bin mit dem Buch i. Stretch .. Lektorat / Korrektorat
3974	root	1.388	Architekturbuch ... wie üblich, kennst das ja wahrsch. auch ... alles zu
3975			spät ...
3976	root	1.234
3977			Dann gehts direktemang in die Ferien (2 Wochen Gomera ab komm. SA ...)
3978
3979			Ja, und dann find ich doch Volker ganz Massiv im Briefkasten a. SA ..
3980
3981	root	1.388	schönes Foto von dir ... 1 Seite .. 2 seiten Interview, m. Fortsetzung im
3982			nächsten Heft ..!!! (äusserst rar b. nem Interview ...)
3983	root	1.234
3984	root	1.388	herzliche Grüsse
3985	root	1.234
3986			tom
3987	root	1.247
3988	root	1.234	PS: Mein Wissenschtf.Kollege und Filmemacher ist der Meinung, dass das Thema
3989	root	1.388	'Copyrights, Commons, Freedom' etc ...spannend wäre, aber schlecht fürs TV
3990	root	1.234	... Du kannst prakt. nichts mehr themat. Anspruchsvolles machen ... auch b.
3991	root	1.388	Arte war irgend nen Problem (fällt mir auf d. Schnelle nicht mehr ein ...
3992	root	1.234	schon ein paar Wochen her ...)
3993	root	1.387	%
3994	root	1.233	From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
3995			Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4
3996			Message-ID: <20040826183838.GE2793@holomorphy.com>
3997
3998			On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 02:02:29AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
3999	root	1.247	> How old are you? I thought you were the guy at Linux Tag with fashion
4000			> oriented hair who gave a talk on his XFS work? Did I confuse you with
4001	root	1.233	> someone else?
4002
4003			Index: mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS
4004			===================================================================
4005			--- mm1-2.6.9-rc1.orig/CREDITS 2004-08-26 10:37:57.424567967 -0700
4006			+++ mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS 2004-08-26 11:35:24.977260109 -0700
4007			@@ -2677,6 +2677,14 @@
4008			S: 79098 Freiburg
4009			S: Germany
4010
4011			+N: Hans Reiser
4012			+E: reiser@namesys.com
4013			+W: http://www.namesys.com/
4014			+D: official Linux kernel hairstyle critic
4015			+S: 6979 Exeter Dr
4016			+S: Oakland, CA 94611
4017			+S: USA
4018			+
4019			N: Joerg Reuter
4020			E: jreuter@yaina.de
4021			W: http://yaina.de/jreuter/
4022	root	1.387	%
4023	root	1.232	Partial lynx-output for mail sent by "T-Online Vertragsbrief":
4024			[poeppel_magenta.gif]
4025	root	1.387	%
4026	root	1.231	[http://www.dark-skies.org/theproblems.html#security]
4027			Better ligthing does not affect crime rates
4028	root	1.387	%
4029	root	1.230	[http://www.immunitysec.com/downloads/tc0.pdf]
4030			Label: "Difficulty of owning Windows vs. Difficulty to make this graph"
4031	root	1.387	%
4032	root	1.229	[rxvt-unicode (mine! :) vs. gnome-terminal :)]
4033			[http://bugs.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137864]
4034			[...]
4035			Upgrading to major: the first person to fix this (fix = performance is
4036			within a factor of 2 of rxvt-unicode for all four of the tests here) gets
4037			$50 from me, or an expensive dinner + all the beer they can handle if they
4038			ever visit Sydney, Australia ;)
4039			[...]
4040			Tagging this critical+urgent. How dare I, you ask? Doubling the reward -
4041			$100 if this is fixed (see above) before September 1, 2004. $0 after that
4042			(and I'll return it to a normal bug ;) If anyone else wants to contribute
4043			to whoever ends up fixing this, please join in..
4044	root	1.387	%
4045	root	1.228	[SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301268,00.html]
4046			[SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301538,00.html]
4047			Dass die Flimmerkiste ein beliebiges "Nullmedium" sei, beklagen
4048			Kulturkritiker von jeher. Doch nun zeigt selbst ein unvoreingenommener
4049			Blick aufs TV-Programm: Die Quote ist heilig, das Niveau sinkt auf breiter
4050			Front - auch bei ARD und ZDF. Verdummt die Na
4051	root	1.387	%
4052	root	1.226	[SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM,ed-XX1sNy0yR7p~QMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/brainleak%202004-03-02.html]
4053	root	1.227	[...] Tech savvy people will be inclining towards clicking the cancel
4054			button by default whenever they are presented a question which they don't
4055			fully understand, or didn't expect to see. Regular computer users will
4056			be inclined to press the Ok button instead, because they fear that by
4057			clicking cancel they might be causing something they don't understand not
4058			to work, something that they probably won't be able to fix afterwards
4059			anyway. If a geek fucks up somehow, he'll know what to do to fix it
4060			anyway, so there's no harm done clicking cancel. [...]
4061	root	1.387	%
4062	root	1.223	[http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/00/10/marienbad.html]
4063			I once had a postmodern intertextual moment at a drugstore bookrack when I
4064	root	1.224	picked up a paperback with the following title: Bram Stoker's Dracula:
4065	root	1.223	A Novelization Based on the Original Screenplay.
4066	root	1.387	%
4067	root	1.222	[bts show 215647]
4068			[yes, the whole thing]
4069	root	1.387	%
4070	root	1.221	[bts show 254316]
4071	root	1.247	> > The problem is not in luit, it's not in XTerm, it's not even in termcap;
4072			> > it's in the morass of complexity that some mindless jerk who'll be first
4073			> > against the wall when the revolution comes standardised as ISO 2022.
4074	root	1.221	>
4075			> ( google suggests 2022 has many fans ;-)
4076
4077			We'll use a larger wall.
4078	root	1.387	%
4079	root	1.220	[Maedhros35 about "Clockwork Orange" on IMDB]
4080			This is a movie I would not recommend even to my worst enemy. It is a
4081			horrible picture, containing too much random violence and rape committed
4082			by four no-goods in white pyjamas, than is good for anyone too watch.
4083
4084			The only fun moment is when the main character, being brainwashed into a
4085			non-violent state of mind, is being bashed by his former friends.
4086
4087			There may be some "hidden message" in this movie about society and blah,
4088			but the message (not too well brought) is completely drowned.
4089
4090			It is not even a waste of your time, it is worse than that. Avoid at all
4091			cost.
4092			["too much violence" but "the only fun moment".... What the...!?]
4093	root	1.387	%
4094	root	1.219	When searching on google for:
4095
4096	root	1.225	kakerlake schabe made
4097	root	1.219
4098			Google asked me wether I instead wanted to look for:
4099
4100	root	1.225	kakerlake _schwabe_ made
4101	root	1.387	%
4102	root	1.218	What we learned this week;
4103			"Hell is a bad place to be and renders with 8-12fps"
4104	root	1.387	%
4105	root	1.216	"Britain is one of only three countries in the world (the others are
4106			Germany and Egypt) enduring stricter censorship today than 25years ago"
4107	root	1.387	%
4108	root	1.215	[translated]
4109			23:07 <schmorp> libtool is soo broken
4110			23:07 <schmorp> ./libtool gcc-3.4 ...
4111			23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
4112			23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
4113			23:07 <schmorp> ...
4114			23:07 <schmorp> libtool --tag=ulubulu
4115			23:07 <schmorp> libtool: ignoring unknown tag ulubulu
4116			23:07 <schmorp> and it works
4117	root	1.387	%
4118	root	1.214	History does not repeat itself. Historians repeat each other.
4119			-- Lord Balfour
4120	root	1.387	%
4121	root	1.213	The whole of Mozilla is just one big focus bug.
4122	root	1.387	%
4123	root	1.212	<Beerman> When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then
4124			I realised that The Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked
4125			him to forgive me.
4126	root	1.387	%
4127	root	1.211	[slashdot]
4128			> there are currently no active, reliable ways to obtain the program listings for New Zealand television
4129
4130			I have been to NZ. You have no television.
4131	root	1.387	%
4132	root	1.210	[IMDB user about "What?" by Roman Polanski]
4133			"What?" fills the gap for those who get a kick out of 70's porn plots, but
4134			get bored during the sex scenes.
4135	root	1.387	%
4136	root	1.209	I say to you that the VCR is to the ... American public as the Boston
4137			strangler is to the woman home alone.
4138			- Jack Valenti (CEO, MPAA)
4139	root	1.387	%
4140	root	1.208	[Bruce Schneier]
4141			SP2 is an important security upgrade to Windows XP, and I hope it is
4142			widely installed among licensed XP users. I also hope it is quickly
4143			pirated, so unlicensed XP users can also install it. In order for me
4144			to remain secure on the Internet, I need everyone to become more
4145			secure. And the more people who install SP2, the more we all benefit.
4146	root	1.387	%
4147	root	1.207	[From Paul Eggert]
4148			[...] Worse, HP-UX asctime rejects any tm_year that is negative; this
4149			violates the C standard, but HP won't take my bug reports since I'm not a
4150			HP-UX customer. [...]
4151	root	1.387	%
4152	root	1.206	>>>Just curious, If I recall correctly, didn't Forth used to be FORTH?
4153			>>
4154			>>Since FORTH is not an acronym (the way BASIC, LISP, FORTRAN and C are)
4155			>>but a (deliberate) misspelling of "fourth", when it became possible to
4156			>>use LC the fashion became to do so. My book, "Scientific FORTH" (1992)
4157			>>spelled it in UC.
4158	root	1.247	>
4159			>
4160	root	1.206	> BASIC, LISP and FORTRAN are acronyms. C isn't.
4161
4162			C isn't all caps, just the initial letter.
4163	root	1.387	%
4164	root	1.205	[comp.lang.c]
4165			> According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language
4166
4167			I'm sorry, but that's like quoting Bjarne Stroustrup on correct ISO C
4168			usage.
4169
4170			Richard
4171	root	1.387	%
4172	root	1.204	I remember Elwyn Berlekamp describing what goes on at computer go
4173			tournaments (where computer programs play go against each other) - unlike
4174			at computer chess tournaments where the programs far surpass their
4175			creators, at go tournaments the creators sit there and look at a game in
4176			play and say things to each other like, "Gosh, I wonder if my program will
4177			repair that weakness before your program notices it."
4178	root	1.387	%
4179	root	1.203	21:40 <oesi> sansho: du bist kindisch. :)
4180			21:40 <sansho> oesi: das hab ich mir von dir abgeguckt
4181	root	1.387	%
4182	root	1.202	MarkD [-]: The trouble with political jokes is that some of them get elected
4183	root	1.387	%
4184	root	1.201	A coherent understanding of Philosophy will convince you that you are
4185			competent to understand the universe and achieve the human values that
4186			make life meaningful. You will know when you know something and when you
4187			don't, when you understand something and when you don't, and why. You
4188			will also realize why morality and ethics are too important to be left to
4189			anyone but yourself. You will learn that there are no shortcuts to truth,
4190			no authorities you can follow blindly, and perhaps most important, that
4191			nothing at all exists except reality. In sum, you will know what human
4192			existence means and implies.
4193
4194			[Introduction to Philosophy, Joel Katz]
4195	root	1.387	%
4196	root	1.201	> > Casts from void* are necessary in C++, not in C.
4197			>
4198			> I am aware... I'm fishing for more info! Perhaps if I reposted again and
4199			> said you were wrong I'll get more...
4200			>
4201			> You're WRONG!
4202
4203	root	1.388	void* is implicitly converted to the destination pointer type (C99 §6.3.2.3
4204			and §7.20.3.1).
4205	root	1.387	%
4206	root	1.200	From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu>
4207			In the DOS days, I had a scattering of students who really
4208			knew about computers. In the XP days, I have none.
4209	root	1.387	%
4210	root	1.199	[another variation, more useful]
4211			A. It should be obvious.
4212			Q. How is it hard?
4213			A. Because it makes it hard to follow conversations.
4214			Q. Why is top-posting bad?
4215	root	1.387	%
4216	root	1.198	[windows is a good place to learn programming]
4217			Subject: Linux c prog doesn't work on Sun Solaris Machine....?
4218
4219			Compiled using g++ on linux and then I tried to execute it on Solaris.
4220			The error message was something like "can't execute a.out"
4221
4222			- works ok on linux
4223			- ran chmod so Sun user has execute/read/etc permissions. chmod u=rwx
4224
4225			Any clues why?
4226			I am new to the non windows world.
4227
4228			Thanks
4229	root	1.387	%
4230	root	1.197	[comp.lang.c]
4231			> I want to write some data on the EEPROM of a PIC 16F877 microcontroller via
4232			> serial port rs232. What library can I use with a gcc compiler to perform
4233			> this ?
4234
4235			This is not a C question. Please try asking again in comp.arch.embedded where
4236			we will advise you to use an 8051, AVR, or MSP430 instead of the PIC.
4237	root	1.387	%
4238	root	1.196	[comp.std.c]
4239			In message <c4k0mj$fmp$1@sunnews.cern.ch>
4240			Dan.Pop@cern.ch (Dan Pop) wrote:
4241
4242			> In <nfa0k1-03l.ln1@jones.homeip.net> lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com writes:
4243	root	1.247	>
4244			> >The text of the standard only yields one reasonable interpretation.
4245			>
4246	root	1.196	> Yup, mine!
4247	root	1.387	%
4248	root	1.195	[links-2.1pre13 ChangeLog]
4249			Thu Oct 9 16:44:10 GMT 2003 mikulas:
4250
4251			Do not print 1000l on FreeBSD console on exit
4252	root	1.387	%
4253	root	1.194	[an old question, revisited]
4254			http://www.style.org/unladenswallow/
4255	root	1.387	%
4256	root	1.194	[comp.lang.c]
4257	root	1.247	> can any one translate the following codes into c++ codes,
4258	root	1.194
4259			This is comp.lang.c. We do C, not C++. We do not translate C into
4260			obfuscated languages. The good news is that your code already _is_ C++.
4261	root	1.387	%
4262	root	1.194	[comp.lang.c]
4263			I didn't say he was incorrect. I said he was an idiot.
4264	root	1.387	%
4265	root	1.193	according to babelfish "glibber" in german means "more glibber" in english :-)
4266	root	1.387	%
4267	root	1.192	[Debian Bug #163625 features one of my favourite bug report subjects:]
4268			Installing additional mozilla Debian packages
4269	root	1.247	deletes additionally installed mozilla packages
4270	root	1.387	%
4271	root	1.388	[Aus einer Werbung für dne "Windows-Berater". Es ist erschreckend, zeigt
4272			aber, das manche Maßnahmen von Microsoft völlig irreführenderweise als
4273			Sicherheitsmaßnahme verstanden und dargestellt werden. Ich frage mich, wie
4274	root	1.190	DRM in Zukunft aufgenommen und beworben werden wird...]
4275
4276	root	1.388	"Kaum angekündigt, schon ist der Registrierungsschutz geknackt"
4277	root	1.190
4278	root	1.388	Das neue Windows XP lässt sich nur mit einem besonderen Registrierungscode
4279	root	1.190	dauerhaft betreiben. Besorgt sich der Anwender diese Lizenz nicht,
4280			wird das System gesperrt. Damit sollen Raubkopien und unerlaubte
4281			Mehrfachnutzung verhindert werden. Kaum vorgestellt, knacken Hacker
4282	root	1.388	diese Verschlüsselung schon. Checklisten zeigen Ihnen, wie dieser Klau
4283			abläuft. Damit Sie sich und Ihr System vor ungebetenen Zugriffen und Viren
4284			schützen können.
4285	root	1.387	%
4286	root	1.189	[Reiner Gamma]
4287			http://www.geocities.com/kc5lei/SWIRL2001.htm
4288	root	1.387	%
4289	root	1.188	>> Asshole keep you shit out of alt.binaries.games.adult until you read
4290			[...]
4291	root	1.187	>Dude, thisi is not "alt.binaries.games.adult".
4292	root	1.188	[...]
4293	root	1.187	Yes, it is. Or, it was, till your post cut the crosspost. It was
4294			crossposted to several groups and the person you're replying to will
4295			never get your message.
4296	root	1.387	%
4297	root	1.186	[http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/doc/Details.html.pl]
4298			As this project will always run unknown binary code of proprietary W32
4299			filesystem drivers, the code can never be trusted.
4300	root	1.387	%
4301	root	1.185	[http://www.hello-penguin.com/gtm-perl/doc/Perl.html]
4302			(look at the BUGS section... very funny to read, btw., it's
4303			a sourceforge project called GT.M).
4304	root	1.387	%
4305	root	1.184	bigger things. We\\\\\\\'d be using C + asm and Hax
4306			01:15 <Sesse> we all the backslashes?
4307			01:15 <schmorp> no idea, i have these in some of my descriptions, too
4308			01:15 <schmorp> it seems that sourceofrge does " -> \" on every deascription change
4309			01:15 <Sesse> sounds like php
4310			01:15 <schmorp> i guess it's written in php
4311			01:15 <schmorp> g
4312			01:15 <Sesse> :-D
4313	root	1.387	%
4314	root	1.183	http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/
4315			[...] At the beginning I didn't expect that I would actually succeed,
4316			since I thought I would need almost half of that just for the headers. I
4317			think my first cut was 458 bytes in size. I was quite pleased with myself
4318			when I trimmed that down to less than 300 bytes, ecstatic when I finally
4319			reached the 255-byte goal, and downright triumphant when I later got it to
4320			work in 238 bytes. By the time I had a 198-byte version, I was just plain
4321			dumbfounded. It's now at 171 bytes. [...]
4322	root	1.387	%
4323	root	1.182	[http://www.mindspring.com/~kimall/Japanese/polite.html]
4324			[...] Americans didn't invent English (although the Brits will happily
4325			disown our mangled version of it! :-) ) [...]
4326	root	1.387	%
4327	root	1.181	[Eugene Spafford]
4328			During the heights of some of the recent viruses, I was discarding 30Mb of
4329			email per day -- all of it viruses. And I should point out -- viruses for
4330			Windows. There have been something like 100,000 viruses for MS operating
4331			systems, only about 50 for the Mac, and about 3 for commercial Unix
4332			systems. That difference isn't because of a difference in the prevalence
4333			of the machines -- there are basic architectural differences.
4334	root	1.387	%
4335	root	1.180	[http://MarginalHacks.com/]
4336			If you can't vi it, it sucks.
4337	root	1.387	%
4338	root	1.180	[from the somewhat outdated xterm-faq]
4339			GNOME TERMINAL
4340			[...]
4341			The documentation is fragmentary (with a comment suggesting that the
4342			author does not know where to find relevant information), and the program
4343			fares badly with vttest. [...] But it suffices for vi.
4344			[.. later]
4345			There is a variation of xvt (ancestor of rxvt) originally known as kvt
4346			bundled with KDE which may be referred to as "kterm", but I do not find it
4347			interesting, other than to comment that it was a poor choice of name.
4348	root	1.387	%
4349	root	1.179	[I love X programs]
4350			[xc/programs/xprop/xprop.c]
4351			/*
4352	root	1.247	* blip: a debugging routine. Prints Blip! on stderr with flushing.
4353	root	1.179	*/
4354			void blip()
4355	root	1.247	{
4356	root	1.179	fflush(stdout);
4357			fprintf(stderr, "blip!\n");
4358			fflush(stderr);
4359	root	1.247	}
4360	root	1.387	%
4361	root	1.178	[pavel machek commenting on a proposed patch]
4362			+ int alternative_order = 999;
4363
4364			Why not 666? :-).
4365	root	1.387	%
4366	root	1.178	[yosh on gimp-developer]
4367			It's also better to research your suggestions a little, so that they don't
4368			sound completely out there, thereby reinforcing the viewpoint that Windows
4369			users are clueless.
4370	root	1.387	%
4371	root	1.177	[modularity makes unix systems more secure]
4372			http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/36029.html
4373	root	1.387	%
4374	root	1.176	[beware german translations]
4375			dpkg: Warnung - ignoriere Kollision, kann sowieso weitermachen!
4376	root	1.387	%
4377	root	1.175	[http://www.cypherspace.org/adam/hacks/lotus-nsa-key.html, look around there]
4378			NSA's Backdoor Key from Lotus-Notes
4379	root	1.387	%
4380	root	1.174	The word "ampersand" is an alteration of the phrase "et, per se and" (that
4381			is: "et by itself [means] and"), which became corrupted to "and, per se
4382			and", and finally, ampersand.
4383	root	1.387	%
4384	root	1.173	[xc/lib/X11/lcUTF8.c]
4385			[...] We distinguish three classes of clients: [1st] [...] [2nd] Clients
4386			which accept CompoundText with multiple character sets and parse it
4387			themselves. (Example: emacs, xemacs.) [3rd] [...] In a distant future,
4388			when clients of the first and second kind will have disappeared, [...]
4389	root	1.387	%
4390	root	1.171	[linux-2.6/drivers/md/Kconfig]
4391			WARNING: RAID-6 is currently highly experimental. If you
4392			use it, there is no guarantee whatsoever that it won't
4393			destroy your data, eat your disk drives, insult your mother,
4394			or re-appoint George W. Bush.
4395	root	1.387	%
4396	root	1.170	[http://www.herodios.com/herron_tc/atsign.html]
4397			Many Finnish terms for @ are connected with cats. Not content with naming
4398			the sign for what it looks like, Finnish names it for what it looks like
4399			sounds like. In addition to "kissanhnta [cat's tail], "miau," "miumau,"
4400			and "miuku" are all "miau merkki" [meow marks] in Finnish. Other terms
4401			from Finnish include "apinanhanta" [a monkey's tail], or "hiirenhanta"
4402			[mouse's tail]. Some "computer people" use the English word "at."
4403	root	1.387	%
4404	root	1.247	17:07 <oesi> schmorp: mal ein guter kommentar auf heise zum thema "Bill tourt durch
4405	root	1.388	die USA und kündigt innovative neuentwicklungen an"
4406			17:08 <oesi> Kommentar war: "was hat er angekündigt: drive-letter in unicode?"
4407	root	1.387	%
4408	root	1.168	[Ken Lunde about his copy of KS C 5657-1991:]
4409			Here's another interesting note. My official copy of this
4410			standard has all of its 2,856 hanja hand-written.
4411	root	1.387	%
4412	root	1.172	[cvs, while checking in changes to uunet's radiusd]
4413	root	1.168	confused about file platform.h -- ignoring
4414	root	1.387	%
4415	root	1.167	[http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/02/24/1011245.shtml]
4416	root	1.247	And most likely, the FBI didn't tell the hosting company exactly what it
4417			is they wanted. When the Feds come in with a search warrant, they don't
4418			ask for your help. They say, "stand aside" and commence
4419	root	1.167	%
4420	root	1.166	http://www.bash.org/?178890
4421	root	1.387	%
4422	root	1.165	[http://www.bash.org/?75016]
4423			<ig3l\|Guel> If Osama B. isn't in Afghanistan, and if he isn't dead, we believe he is in another country" - US army General
4424	root	1.387	%
4425	root	1.247	00:56 <oesi> ulpfr: ich schrieb mal einen kompletten mailer in emacs, weil mir rmail
4426			nicht gefallen hat. man wird aelter und reifer und droppt dann emacs
4427	root	1.164	einfach :)
4428			00:56 <ulpfr> Weichei
4429	root	1.387	%
4430	root	1.163	[spca50x.sourceforge.net]
4431			/*
4432			* Function compares two strings.
4433	root	1.247	* Return offset in pussy where prick ends if "prick" may penetrate
4434	root	1.163	* int "pussy" like prick into pussy, -1 otherwise.
4435			*/
4436			static inline int match(const char* prick, const char* pussy, int len2)
4437			{
4438			int len1 = strlen(prick); //length of male string
4439			[...]
4440	root	1.387	%
4441	root	1.163	http://www.leckse.net/profilieren/chat
4442	root	1.387	%
4443	root	1.388	rohw, schleymig und formlos Fleisch wie di Schleuch eines Tündenfischs
4444	root	1.387	%
4445	root	1.162	[rxvt-*/src/init.[cC]]
4446			/* grab colors before netscape does */
4447			Get_Colours ();
4448	root	1.387	%
4449	root	1.388	[oesi über apache-2.0]
4450	root	1.160	03:10 <oesi> ist mir egal, ich fahre alle 24h den apache runter...
4451			03:10 <oesi> ich fahre praktisch das 1.3er config-file. das gibt sicherheit :)
4452			03:11 <oesi> ich kann apache nicht stoppen.
4453			03:11 <oesi> apachectl stop
4454			03:11 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
4455			03:11 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
4456			03:12 <oesi> wie konnte ich den starten?
4457			03:12 <schmorp> rofl
4458	root	1.161	[...]
4459			03:29 <oesi> es ist kein scherz. wirklich:
4460			03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl sslstart
4461			03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl stop
4462			03:29 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
4463			03:29 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
4464	root	1.387	%
4465	root	1.159	[http://www.jmarshall.com/tools/cgiproxy/]
4466			[...] Here's a demo (username "free", password "speech") [...]
4467	root	1.387	%
4468	root	1.158	[rxvt/src/screen.C]
4469			#ifdef DEBUG_STRICT
4470	root	1.247	assert(screen.cur.row >= 0);
4471	root	1.158	#else /* drive with your eyes closed */
4472			MAX_IT(screen.cur.row, 0);
4473			#endif
4474	root	1.387	%
4475	root	1.157	[http://www.mine-control.com/zack/timesync/timesync.html]
4476			[...] Also, anecdotal evidence from network programmers suggests that the
4477			UDP implementation under Win32 is unstable and overly-unreliable. [...]
4478	root	1.387	%
4479	root	1.156	> > Ceterum censeo \| PGP encrypted mail preferred.
4480			> > Redmond esse delendam. \| PGP Key at www.MPA-Garching.MPG.de/~nog/
4481			>
4482			> Willkomme im Club .... :-)))
4483
4484			Danke - ich bin schon lange dabei... ;-)
4485			--
4486			OpenVMS @ 25 \| Martin Vorlaender \| VMS & WNT programmer
4487	root	1.387	%
4488	root	1.388	Um die Jahrhundertwende erfand ein Mann namens Friedolin Tär einen
4489			IQ-Test, der die Gesamtpersönlichkeit sehr stark miteinbezog.
4490			Charakterstärke, Grosszügigkeit, flexibles Denken etc. wurden also
4491			mitbewertet. Die Skala mit der Maßeinheit "Tär" wies ein großes Spektrum
4492			auf. Ärzte, Wissenschaftler erreichen IQ's im Megatär-Bereich. Der
4493			Durchschnittsmensch weist einige Kilotär auf. Nach unten gibt es Dezitär,
4494			Centitär... und schießlich Mil(l)itär...
4495	root	1.387	%
4496	root	1.154	http://senseis.xmp.net/?GetStrongAtGote
4497			http://users.skynet.be/rexburton/ritchie.htm
4498	root	1.387	%
4499	root	1.153	Subject: [Swsusp-devel] 2.6.1: It could go faster if I didn't have egg on my face.
4500	root	1.387	%
4501	root	1.153	"It's not Hollywood. War is real, war is primarily not about defeat or
4502			victory, it is about death. I've seen thousands and thousands of dead
4503			bodies. Do you think I want to have an academic debate on this subject?"
4504			-- Robert Fisk
4505	root	1.387	%
4506	root	1.151	[the satellite death spiral: why spacecraft are unnecessarily expensive]
4507			http://www.dynacon.ca/pdf/files/newspdf_63.pdf
4508	root	1.152	[see also the small satellites homepage]
4509			http://centaur.sstl.co.uk/SSHP/
4510	root	1.387	%
4511	root	1.150	[http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/files/lec_lev.htm]
4512			"Anthropologists concur that America is an exceedingly 'low-touch,'
4513			high-violence culture"
4514			[...]
4515			"[...] Republican members of the House of Representatives called for the
4516			resignation of Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders, whose transgression was to
4517			suggest, in response to a question following a speech to sex educators,
4518			that masturbation was an appropriate subject for classroom discussion.
4519			This remark, according to one congressman, was part of a social movement
4520			that was "killing the moral fiber of America" and just one symptom of
4521			a decline also manifested in reckless driving, an indecisive military
4522			policy-dubbed "mission creep," and homosexuals in the Boy Scouts." [...]
4523
4524			Masturbation is an absolute taboo in the US. Many adults still think that
4525			they are the only ones who do such dirty things.
4526	root	1.387	%
4527	root	1.150	From: <[...]@aol.com>
4528			Subject: Re: [...]
4529
4530			Marc wrote on 1/7/2004, 6:57 AM:
4531
4532			> Congrats. No kidding, you are the first person @aol that ever sent me a
4533			> sensible mail. I was planning to reject mail from aol.com right away
4534			> since (in the last 8 years at least), nothing good came from there, but you
4535			> saved it :)
4536
4537			Yeah, I get that a lot, but you've got to know that .aol.com email
4538			addresses are also used by the people who work for AOL (cough, cough :).
4539			[...]
4540	root	1.387	%
4541	root	1.150	From: Alan Cox
4542			> The code to disable prefetch on Athlon is 300 bytes and hurts your PIV?
4543			> Really? I'll dig back through the code, but I recall it as adding or
4544			> deleting an entry in a table to enable prefetch. If it's affecting PIV the
4545			> code to use prefetch is seriously broken.
4546
4547			Big time. Its over 300 bytes long because its embedded in each inline
4548			prefetch and it causes a branch misprediction almost every time. Amazing
4549			what you find when you actually measure stuff 8)
4550			[...]
4551	root	1.387	%
4552	root	1.150	http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4553	root	1.387	%
4554	root	1.150	http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4555	root	1.387	%
4556	root	1.150	http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4557	root	1.387	%
4558	root	1.149	[FYI: java was officially announced in 1995, and certainly didn't exist
4559			even as a concept before 1991. It's interesting how many people nowadays
4560			claim to have decades of java experience]
4561			On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:11:54AM -0500, Robert Soros <robert@soros.ca> wrote:
4562			> I am extremely excited about your ideas to fix freenet and would be
4563			> willing to plug your code into fred (I have fourteen years java
4564			> programming experience.) Could you provide a link to your code? What
4565	root	1.387	%
4566	root	1.149	http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4567	root	1.387	%
4568	root	1.149	http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4569	root	1.387	%
4570	root	1.149	http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4571	root	1.387	%
4572	root	1.147	[in a private discussion about some potential problem that would cause]
4573			[mail not to be delivered]
4574			> > On the other hand, I see the same in some mail from RMS.
4575	root	1.247	>
4576	root	1.147	> Well, just because rms does it does not mean... :)
4577
4578			My point is that the FSF is unlikely to install something that
4579			bounces RMS's mail, at least, not for long.
4580	root	1.387	%
4581	root	1.147	On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Piers Cawley wrote:
4582
4583			> David Cantrell <david@cantrell.org.uk> writes:
4584			>
4585			> > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 11:16:52AM -0500, Tommie M. Jones wrote:
4586			> >> Anyone know of any perl software that does resume parsing.
4587			> >
4588			> > I don't think anyone has implemented continuations in perl, so I fail
4589			> > to see how you can have resumes. Or are you trying to parse some other
4590			> > language which does support this?
4591			>
4592
4593			Just because we share a language does not mean we understand each other.
4594
4595			In America there are two meanings for resume. One being to continue the
4596			other the equivalent of what ya'll call a CV (I think though I've never
4597			heard the term before) In the second definition resume is pronounced with
4598			a short u. I think there is a "`" in the proper spelling of the word but
4599			since Americans are not use to using punctuation in their words (other
4600			than to show ownership and contractions) it is usually loss.
4601	root	1.387	%
4602	root	1.147	echo $package has manual pages available in source form.
4603			echo "However, you don't have nroff, so they're probably useless to you."
4604			--Larry Wall in Configure from the perl distribution
4605	root	1.387	%
4606	root	1.146	AFTER 30 years of "daylight saving" - moving the clocks forward in the
4607			spring and then back again in the autumn - there is still an Abolish
4608			Daylight Saving Committee in New South Wales, Australia.
4609
4610			Added to the usual claims of such campaigns - for example, that the
4611			extra hour of daylight in the evening in summer fades the curtains - is
4612			a new one from ADSC spokeswoman Judith Hall, of Gunnedah, who told the
4613			Sydney Morning Herald: "No man has the right to choose the time of the
4614			rising and setting of the sun, only God."
4615
4616			Reader John McCallum, who told us about this, is surprised Hall doesn't
4617			explain why God doesn't simply exercise this choice. When people insist
4618			on moving their clocks forward, He should just move the sunrise forward
4619			and thwart them that way.
4620	root	1.387	%
4621	root	1.146	[Defect Report #205 to ISO-C]
4622			There was a unanimous vote that the feature is ugly, and a good consensus
4623			that its incorporation into the standard at the 11th hour was an
4624			unfortunate decision.
4625	root	1.387	%
4626	root	1.247	02:23 <oesi> Breaking News: SCO stellt per Wahrsager Codeklau in HURD in einem Jahr
4627	root	1.146	fest ;)
4628	root	1.387	%
4629	root	1.146	[http://www.unicode.org/standard/WhatIsUnicode.html]
4630
4631			Last updated: - Invalid Date
4632	root	1.387	%
4633	root	1.146	http://www.bash.org/?99060
4634	root	1.387	%
4635	root	1.145	[IZ-Buzzword-Bullshit-Bingo]
4636			http://www.l13.de/it/ibbb.html
4637	root	1.387	%
4638	root	1.144	Q: What is the state of the object after its lifetime has ended?
4639
4640			A: As a well-known software guru[3] once put it, speaking about a
4641			similar code fragment and anthropomorphically referring to the
4642			local object as a "he":
4643
4644			"He's not pining! He's passed on! This parrot is no more! He
4645			has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker!
4646			He's a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn't
4647			nailed him to the perch he'd be pushing up the daisies! His
4648			metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's
4649			kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down
4650			the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible! THIS IS AN
4651			EX-PARROT!"
4652
4653			- Dr. M. Python, BMath, MASc, PhD (CompSci)
4654	root	1.387	%
4655	root	1.144	[ach du schande]
4656			"pflichtpfandfrei"
4657	root	1.387	%
4658	root	1.142	[a comment on the demonstrations against bush in london]
4659			The police will shoot you.
4660
4661			OK, that's not strictly true. The CIA will shoot you. Then the police will
4662			arrest the CIA. Then American troops will invade.
4663
4664	root	1.247	Just another average day in central London.
4665	root	1.387	%
4666	root	1.141	[this signature gave me a laugh...]
4667			[...]even better is if there is a system function that sends out an arp
4668			reply.
4669
4670			pls. cc my email address
4671
4672			tia
4673			pd
4674
4675
4676	root	1.247	--
4677	root	1.141	^X^C
4678			q
4679			quit
4680			:q
4681			^C
4682			end
4683			x
4684			exit
4685			ZZ
4686			^D
4687			?
4688			help
4689			shit
4690			.
4691	root	1.387	%
4692	root	1.140	* muppet also hates bloatus notes. it doesn't need vnc to make it slow.
4693	root	1.387	%
4694	root	1.140	[From the File::Spec manpage on catdir]
4695			Concatenate two or more directory names to form a complete path ending
4696			with a directory. But remove the trailing slash from the resulting string,
4697			because it doesn't look good, isn't necessary and confuses OS2. [...]
4698	root	1.387	%
4699	root	1.140	[I love it]
4700			http://www.swindonweb.com/life/lifemagi0.htm
4701			http://www.armin-grewe.com/holiday/wiltshire/swindon-roundabout.htm
4702	root	1.387	%
4703	root	1.139	"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they go by."
4704			- Douglas Adams
4705	root	1.387	%
4706	root	1.138	Bill Gates is repeating the mantra that users are to blame for insecure
4707			PCs, in an interview with a Canadian newspaper. This refrain is familiar
4708			to the INQUIRER: Gates said more or less the same thing when he addressed
4709			an Assembly of CEOs in Berlin a few weeks ago.
4710
4711	root	1.247	The chief software architect (CSA.'.) told IT Business that perfect code
4712			wasn't the answer to security problems, but firewalls and keeping the
4713			software up to date were more important. The problems that have occurred
4714			this year wouldn't have happened if firms and individuals had set up
4715			their software properly.
4716	root	1.138
4717			He also claims in the article that Microsoft has always had security
4718			patches out before the exploits happened. Developers were also to blame
4719			because they didn't understand the application program interfaces, Gates
4720			told the publication.
4721
4722	root	1.247	And he also claimed that all forms of Unix and Linux have a greater
4723			number of vulnerabilities than Microsoft but don't spread as much because
4724			"they're not as dense" as Windows. Low volume software is hit by
4725			malicious people, high volume software, that is Windows, is hit by people
4726			who want visibility and glory.
4727	root	1.387	%
4728	root	1.137	[In the FAQ for a bootp client:]
4729
4730			o You are using --server to point to a server which doesn't run a bootp server
4731
4732			x Try not using it.
4733	root	1.387	%
4734	root	1.136	[http://www.politicalpulpit.com/Luke/LukeArchive0403.htm]
4735			The facts are simple: In Lynn, MA Principal of the Lynn English High
4736			School, Andrew Fila refused to allow teacher of English, Jeremy McKeen,
4737			to show the disputed film in his classes. McKeen had already submitted
4738			Moore's opus to his Department Head, Jane Balesta, for approval which she
4739			had given.
4740
4741			Said Fila, "I just pulled it. This is not the time nor the place to be
4742			showing something like that. The producer (Moore) is also an anti war
4743			person as well."
4744	root	1.387	%
4745	root	1.136	[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0254686/]
4746	root	1.388	"Ich habe keine Gefühle, merken sie sich das, Walter. Und wenn ich welche
4747			habe, werden sie nie über meine Intelligenz siegen".
4748	root	1.387	%
4749	root	1.388	["Was ist ein Kopierschutz überhaupt?"]
4750	root	1.135	[http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,270719,00.html]
4751	root	1.134
4752			Damit entspricht Windows der Definition eines illegalen Tools zur Umgehung
4753	root	1.388	des Kopierschutzes und müsste vom Markt genommen werden.
4754	root	1.135	[...]
4755	root	1.134	Das Bundesjustizministerium ist der Auffassung, dass die Frage nur durch
4756	root	1.388	ein Gericht zu klären sei. Das Programm "Windows" kenne man zu wenig.
4757	root	1.135	[...]
4758			Handelt es sich bei Windows also rechtlich um das Abwehren einer Straftat
4759			oder um das illegale Aushebeln eines Kopierschutzverfahrens?
4760	root	1.387	%
4761	root	1.134	http://www.nature.com/nsu/021209/021209-10.html#b1
4762	root	1.387	%
4763	root	1.132	[A document] Written to answer the often asked question about the requirements
4764			on the kernel to get a POSIX compliant thread implementation. And I don't
4765			mean an implementation like this horrible implementation from IBM.
4766			-- Ulrich Drepper
4767	root	1.387	%
4768	root	1.131	GCC generates truly horrible code when no optimization is enabled.
4769			-- Ulrich Drepper
4770	root	1.387	%
4771	root	1.131	Most programmers think that the programs they write are fairly well
4772			written and perform as good as possible. In most cases this is not
4773	root	1.133	correct. -- Ulrich Drepper
4774	root	1.387	%
4775	root	1.130	Even though I cannot accept the rejection of fair use rights by the film
4776			and music industry I cannot endorse piracy.
4777			-- Ulrich Drepper
4778	root	1.387	%
4779	root	1.130	Never say "PIC Code"!. This is duplication.
4780			-- Ulrich Drepper
4781	root	1.387	%
4782	root	1.129	[http://www.ffk.co.at/programme_ffksnetmanager.asp]
4783	root	1.388	Ping und Netsend laufen jetzt über die Windows API, daher schneller und
4784			zuverlässiger
4785	root	1.387	%
4786	root	1.129	[comment from linux/drivers/block/floppy.c]
4787			/*
4788			* 1999/08/13 -- Paul Slootman -- floppy stopped working on Alpha after 24
4789			* days, 6 hours, 32 minutes and 32 seconds (i.e. MAXINT jiffies; ints were
4790			* being used to store jiffies, which are unsigned longs).
4791			*/
4792	root	1.387	%
4793	root	1.128	[Microsoft creates a problem and inspires an industry to work around it.
4794			Just Great. Also learn about Microsoft Logic(tm): DLL's save memory, so
4795			you need to use them. But please use your own private versions of all your
4796			dlls so that they aren't shared...]
4797			http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnsetup/html/dlldanger1.asp
4798	root	1.387	%
4799	root	1.128	[http://lorrie.cranor.org/pubs/drm03.html]
4800			Pirating Movies
4801
4802			[...] The attackers aren't DVD owners making illegal copies and putting
4803			them on file sharing networks. The attackers are industry insiders making
4804			illegal copies long before the DVD is ever on the market.
4805	root	1.387	%
4806	root	1.128	[Look at the time scale...]
4807			http://www.networm.org/graphics/worm-progression.Sep03.pdf
4808	root	1.387	%
4809	root	1.127	[Just funny]
4810			http://www.zug.com/pranks/turnpike/
4811	root	1.387	%
4812	root	1.127	[http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,60391,00.html]
4813			The CEO of Symantec is advocating "legislation to criminalize the
4814			sharing of information and tools online that can be used by malicious
4815			hackers and virus writers." Doesn't he realize that most of his
4816			company's engineers would end up in jail?
4817	root	1.387	%
4818	root	1.126	[http://top40-charts.com/artist.php?aid=1145]
4819			Why is it you forgive Bush for saying "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET OSAMA".
4820			and "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET SADDAM". "I GUARANTEE THERE ARE WMD'S" etc
4821			etc. Yet now he could care less about them? Of course, Clinton lies about
4822			sex and that's a huge deal(not that i am justifying what Bubba did)
4823
4824			Why is it when the marines stormed in, they protected the oil fields but
4825			left all the other resources of Iraq to be looted?
4826
4827			Why is it that the White House doesn't want to release information on
4828			9/11, and only gave the investigation a $3 million budget?(it took $70
4829			million to find out Clinton got a BJ, and that's all they found out for
4830			$70 million!!). Meanwhile, even with a pathetic budget, the WH stonewalls
4831			the investigating committee. It's not enough for the WH to just underfund
4832			them, theyve got to make sure they can't get to any usefull information in
4833			the first place!
4834	root	1.387	%
4835	root	1.247	Buying a Unix machine guarantees you a descent into Hell. It starts when
4836			you plug the computer in and it won't boot. Yes, they really did sell you
4837			a $10,000 computer with an unformatted disk drive.
4838	root	1.125	-- Philip Greenspun
4839	root	1.387	%
4840	root	1.124	"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we
4841			don't believe in it at all." -- Noam Chomsky
4842	root	1.387	%
4843	root	1.124	"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right
4844			to say it." -- not actually from Voltaire
4845	root	1.387	%
4846	root	1.123	"Our ability to innovate is predicated on our ability to own the
4847			platform."
4848			[Kirk Koenigsbauer, strategy manager at Microsoft's MSN]
4849	root	1.387	%
4850	root	1.123	Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
4851			waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is that
4852			frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses
4853			and you can sitll raed it wiuthoit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not
4854			raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.
4855	root	1.320	[http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/personal/matt.davis/Cmabrigde/]
4856	root	1.387	%
4857	root	1.123	[The world is getting saner and saner. The whole world? No....]
4858			http://avirubin.com/vote.pdf
4859	root	1.387	%
4860	root	1.123	[http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1210067,00.asp]
4861			So what actually happens when your Windows XP machine crashes and asks
4862			if you want to send a report? The reports obviously accumulate in some
4863			database, and I can only assume that when one bin piles up with similar
4864			crash memos, the coders get to work. Exactly how many notifications does
4865			Microsoft get? Nobody knows for sure, but based on comments Bill Gates
4866			made at a recent meeting for analysts, the number must be astronomical.
4867			Gates said that 5 percent of Windows machines crash, on average, twice
4868			daily.
4869	root	1.387	%
4870	root	1.123	"...vielleicht praktisch manchmal auch mal geraten, das, wenn auch mal..."
4871	root	1.388	[Johann Gärtner, "Die Republikaner" bei einer Fernsehsendung über ihr
4872			Wahlprogramm. Das Zitat ist repräsentativ.]
4873	root	1.387	%
4874	root	1.123	[http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/rbt/condemn_text.htm]
4875			Critics of Congress and APA's concessions have analogized this situation
4876			to that of Galileo. At the APA's annual convention in August 1999 in
4877			Boston, an anonymous source, unknown to us, posted stickers around the
4878			convention that satirically read, "If the US Congress says that 'The sun
4879			revolves around the earth,' then that fact will be given most careful
4880			consideration in all articles published by the APA."
4881	root	1.387	%
4882	root	1.247	"It is insufficient to protect ourselves with laws; we need to protect ourselves with mathematics."
4883	root	1.123	-- Bruce Schneier
4884	root	1.387	%
4885	root	1.123	[it took me over 7 minutes to find this movie again on imdb...]
4886			[...so it must be good]
4887			http://german.imdb.com/title/tt0072131/
4888	root	1.387	%
4889	root	1.123	[mplayer/libmpcodecs/ad_realaud.c]
4890			[real uses a novel protection scheme...]
4891			raSetPwd(sh->context,"Ardubancel Quazanga"); // set password... lol.
4892	root	1.387	%
4893	root	1.120	[D-Info 3/2003 Database Dump]
4894			I've written a script that dumps the D-Info 2003 database as tsv to stdout.
4895			No idea why I announce it here...
4896	root	1.121	http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/data/dump-dinfo
4897	root	1.387	%
4898	root	1.119	[Oh My God!]
4899			Subject: aic7(censored) use after free in 2.5.66
4900	root	1.387	%
4901	root	1.119	[How many squares are on a go-board?]
4902	root	1.118	http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=UTF-8&client=googlet&selm=16394336.74521.15271%40kcbbs.gen.nz&rnum=2
4903	root	1.387	%
4904	root	1.117	[http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,1020303,00.html]
4905			When I first visited Russia, in 1986, I made friends with a musician whose
4906			father had been Brezhnev's personal doctor. One day we were talking about
4907			life during 'the period of stagnation' - the Brezhnev era. 'It must have
4908			been strange being so completely immersed in propaganda,' I said.
4909
4910			'Ah, but there is the difference. We knew it was propaganda,' replied
4911			Sacha.
4912	root	1.387	%
4913	root	1.116	[From CRYPTO-GRAM]
4914			A reader sent in this conversation he overheard at a corporate security
4915			desk one morning:
4916
4917			Employee: I have lost my photo-ID card, can I get a day pass please?
4918
4919			Security Guard: Certainly, what is your serial number?
4920
4921			Employee: 123456
4922
4923			[Security guard pulls up the details on his computer, which includes a
4924			photograph of the employee.]
4925
4926			Security Guard: Do you have a driver's license or another piece of
4927			identification which has your picture on it?
4928
4929			Employee: Why would you need that?
4930
4931			Security Guard: To match against our records.
4932
4933			Employee: A picture of my face?
4934
4935			Security Guard: Yes
4936
4937			Employee: This is my face -- I am wearing it on my head.
4938
4939			Security Guard: I need another piece of ID with a picture on it to
4940			compare against this one.
4941	root	1.387	%
4942	root	1.116	[Voting in the US might be in for surprises in the future]
4943			http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/voting.shtml
4944			[frankly, I don't trust any government if it's easy to fake votes]
4945	root	1.387	%
4946	root	1.116	MS Windows passwords can be cracked in an average of 13.6 seconds.
4947			Assuming your password consists of just letters and numbers, that is. But
4948			my guess is that almost everyone falls into that category.
4949
4950			<http://news.com.com/2100-1009_3-5053063.html>
4951			<http://lasecpc13.epfl.ch/ntcrack/>
4952	root	1.387	%
4953	root	1.123	Eppur si muove!
4954	root	1.387	%
4955	root	1.116	[bwahahaha]
4956			"RV K-17"
4957	root	1.387	%
4958	root	1.116	"We're the world's greatest superpower, but we have a Third World
4959			electricity grid," said New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson.
4960	root	1.387	%
4961	root	1.116	[where NOT to learn german :)]
4962			[http://www.berlitz.at/worldclub/reise-spanisch/]
4963			<= Es ist 10:45 Uhr / viertel vor elf / dreiviertel zehn.
4964			=> Son las once menos cuarto.
4965	root	1.387	%
4966	root	1.115	ceterum censeo carthaginem esse delendam
4967			ceterum censeo mundum non delendum esse
4968	root	1.387	%
4969	root	1.115	[http://www.urheberrecht.org/news/?id=1402&w=&p=1]
4970	root	1.388	Georgia Tornow, Generalsekretärin der Produzentenvereinigung film20 übt
4971			ebenfalls Kritik an der neuen Formulierung. »In anderen Ländern ist
4972	root	1.115	mitunter die Herstellung privater Kopien untersagt. Und in den USA wird
4973	root	1.388	sogar darüber nachgedacht, Geräte zur Kopienherstellung für illegal zu
4974			erklären«, so Tornow laut »blickpunktfilm.de«.
4975	root	1.387	%
4976	root	1.122	http://www.plif.com/archive/wc285.gif
4977	root	1.387	%
4978	root	1.115	[D-Info 2003, on my box:]
4979			Linux-Distribution nicht erkannt. Koennte RedHat sein.
4980	root	1.387	%
4981	root	1.115	[This patch removed the 75 records limit in D-Info 3/2003 linux for me]
4982			[patch dinfo.i386, YMMV]
4983			<00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba 4b00 0000 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
4984			>00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba ffff ff7f 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
4985	root	1.387	%
4986	root	1.115	[bwbasic-2.20pl2/bwbasic.doc]
4987			This program was originally begun in 1982 by my grandmother, Mrs.
4988			Verda Spell of Beaumont, TX. She was writing the program using
4989			an ANSI C compiler on an Osborne I CP/M computer and although my
4990			grandfather (Lockwood Spell) had bought an IBM PC with 256k of
4991			RAM my grandmother would not use it, paraphrasing George Herbert
4992			to the effect that "He who cannot in 64k program, cannot in 512k."
4993			She had used Microsoft BASIC and although she had nothing against
4994			it she said repeatedly that she didn't understand why Digital
4995			Research didn't "sue the socks off of Microsoft" for version 1.0
4996			of MSDOS and so I reckon that she hoped to undercut Microsoft's
4997			entire market and eventually build a new software empire on
4998			the North End of Beaumont. Her programming efforts were cut
4999			tragically short when she was thrown from a Beaumont to Port
5000			Arthur commuter train in the summer of 1986. I found the source
5001			code to bwBASIC on a single-density Osborne diskette in her knitting
5002			bag and eventually managed to have it all copied over to a PC
5003			diskette. I have revised it slightly prior to this release. You
5004			should know, though, that I myself am an historian, not a programmer.
5005	root	1.387	%
5006	root	1.114	[what high dan players in go think while playing:]
5007			"Must kill ... black stones ... black stones ... must die"
5008	root	1.387	%
5009	root	1.114	[the one and only time rcp failed for me, at the very end of the transfer]
5010			rcp: protocol screwup: mtime.sec not delimited
5011	root	1.387	%
5012	root	1.113	[Wasteland]
5013			Lester Moore,
5014			Shot in the head with a .44.
5015			No Les, no more.
5016	root	1.387	%
5017	root	1.113	[SSK@DFpkjvKWA0kGPZUgm9LkJE1jX4cPAgM/MattersPhallic/4//]
5018			Mormon advice on how to abstain from wanking
5019
5020			STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION
5021			[for the rest of this entertaining document see the freesite]
5022	root	1.387	%
5023	root	1.113	[Fallout]
5024			Here lies the body of Jonathan Blake
5025			Stepped on the gas instead of the brake
5026	root	1.387	%
5027	root	1.111	[http://www.counterpane.com/pptpv2-paper.html]
5028			As we will discuss later, multiple layers of hashing are used in the
5029			different steps of MS-CHAPv2. While this hashing serves to obscure some
5030			of the values, it is unclear what the cryptographic significance of them
5031			are. All they seem to do is to slow down the execution of the protocol.
5032	root	1.112	[...]
5033			It is unclear to us why this protocol is so complicated.
5034			[...]
5035			The Server concatenates the password-hash-hash, the 24-byte NT response,
5036			and the literal string "Magic server to client constant", and then hashes
5037			the result with SHA.
5038	root	1.387	%
5039	root	1.388	> Für viele wird interessant sein, dass ich bisher bei jedem Kunden
5040	root	1.111	> rechnerisch nachweisen konnte, dass OpenSource !immer! der teurere Weg
5041			> ist!
5042	root	1.388	Das bedeutet, daß durch Offenlegung des Source Codes eines Produkts
5043			plötzlich höhere Aufwände entstehen? Was für ein Kundensegment betreust
5044	root	1.111	Du denn? Analphabeten?
5045	root	1.387	%
5046	root	1.388	"Der Sun-Forte-Compiler ist näher am C++-Standard als G++"
5047			[Jörg Schilling, CeBit 2003]
5048	root	1.387	%
5049	root	1.109	17:21 <elmex> ok, sex kann ich nicht, aber ich kann vim und Perl ;)
5050	root	1.387	%
5051	root	1.108	[Biggest ping rtt I've ever seen]
5052			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=473 ttl=128 time=779.5 ms
5053			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=474 ttl=128 time=524.1 ms
5054			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=475 ttl=128 time=275.6 ms
5055			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=539 ttl=128 time=656365.4 ms
5056			64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=540 ttl=128 time=655365.5 ms
5057	root	1.387	%
5058	root	1.108	[I once used a vped.conf from windows on linux, and then had to:]
5059			tcpdump -eni\\\\.\\{F2CB3DC8-1
5060	root	1.387	%
5061	root	1.107	[links are free ;)]
5062			http://knowthetruth.b0x.com/Bush_Family/Bush_-_Hitler/bush_-_hitler.html
5063	root	1.387	%
5064	root	1.106	[http://pobox.com/~oleg/MacHack96/]
5065			Can software development be elevated from the Microsoft style?
5066	root	1.387	%
5067	root	1.105	[openssl, crypto/evp/evp_enc.c]
5068
5069			/* One positive side-effect of US's export
5070			* control history, is that we should at least
5071			* be able to avoid using US mispellings of
5072			* "initialisation"? */
5073			EVPerr(EVP_F_EVP_CIPHERINIT, EVP_R_INITIALIZATION_ERROR);
5074	root	1.387	%
5075	root	1.105	[man pem]
5076			Although the PEM routines take several arguments in almost all applications most of them are set to 0 or NULL.
5077	root	1.387	%
5078	root	1.105	[pth_native.c]
5079
5080			/* ``If you can't do it in
5081	root	1.247	ANSI C, it isn't worth doing.''
5082	root	1.105	-- Unknown */
5083	root	1.387	%
5084	root	1.104	[subculture]
5085	root	1.388	... scorp sind lucker und use script lamer aber über cheater aufregen
5086			mehr nich und zu fünft in nem raum sitzen und dann public zocken und dann
5087	root	1.104	skillig vorkommen ...
5088
5089			[http://forum.topwebmaster.net/extern/de/Ricoohh/thread/9196-77365]
5090	root	1.424	%
5091	root	1.104	[back to the roots. you might not understand the following, but
5092			this list is about things _I_ find funny, not you... :)]
5093	root	1.247	00:16 <elmex> 'mit windows netzwerk zu debuggen ist ungefaehr so sinnvoll wie eine
5094	root	1.104	gehirnoperation mit einem vorschlaghammer'
5095	root	1.247	00:18 <oesi> elmex: da ich in deinem ignore bin, kann ich ja volltrottel sagen.
5096	root	1.104	ethereal rennt seit jahren unter win32
5097			00:18 <elmex> oesi: ja, aber netzwerk nicht ;)
5098	root	1.387	%
5099	root	1.103	[http://home.rhein-zeitung.de/~cknust/detroit/a-z/medikamt.htm]
5100	root	1.388	... Den Amerikanern sind Zäpfchen ebenso wie rektales Fiebermessen absolut
5101			suspekt; der Verdacht der Kinderschändung steht sofort unausgesprochen im
5102			Raum. Zäpfchen ("Suppositorium") werden allenfalls in der Notfallmedizin
5103	root	1.103	im Krankenhaus verwendet. Haben Sie ein Kind, das an Asthma oder
5104	root	1.388	Pseudo-Krupp-Anfällen leidet, bringen Sie sich einen entsprechenden Vorrat
5105			an Zäpfchen unbedingt mit, erwähnen Sie diese aber, soweit möglich, nicht
5106			vor amerikanischen Ärzten. ...
5107	root	1.387	%
5108	root	1.102	sendmail ist wie masturbation mit einer gurkenraspel, erzeugt viele spaene
5109			aber wenig freude.
5110	root	1.387	%
5111	root	1.102	[from a deviance.nfo, looking for new members, I think it's waaay funny]
5112			- you are a Unix guru with good Ansi-C software developing knowledge
5113			and understanding how to prevent network security vulnerabilities.
5114			That means you must be able to code to ansi-c guru level. And you
5115			must also have a good coder perspective of hostbase and network
5116			based intrusion detection systems. You should be able to code tools
5117			to generically prevent stack and heap buffer overflows on unix in
5118			Ansi-C. And Be able to code tools to look after a group of systems
5119			and code sniffing avoidance tools. And you can configure a system
5120			in ways to prevent packet sniffers and "man in the middle" attacks.
5121	root	1.387	%
5122	root	1.388	17:39 <schmorp> marco: flüge von hannover/dortmund [nach sofia] etc. sind glatt
5123			doppelt so teuer wie die gleichen von stuttgart/münchen/frankfurt
5124	root	1.101	17:39 <marco> schmorp: da wollen zu viele weg und zu wenig hin... also sind die
5125			fluege dort nur halb ausgelastet g
5126	root	1.387	%
5127	root	1.100	For me, this article simply illustrates that centralised trust models
5128			don't work well in practise.
5129			http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/12/09/021209opwinman.xml
5130	root	1.387	%
5131	root	1.99	[Rumsfeld in a CNN interview]
5132			There is an old saying, in the pentagon:
5133			"ready, fire, aim."
5134	root	1.387	%
5135	root	1.98	[...] You're allowed to resell the [windows] media but not the
5136			license. "Unfortunately" for Microsoft, this distinction is illegal in
5137			free countries like Germany [1].
5138			[...]
5139			Regards
5140			Henning
5141
5142			[1] The current german governement is actively trying to change this
5143			part of the german law. That's what you get for electing morons who
5144			might look good on TV. At this point, we're already on U.S. levels.
5145	root	1.387	%
5146	root	1.98	[...]
5147			The GPL does not restrict you. Contrary, it uses copyright law to
5148			establish a pool of software with much more freedom as copyright law gives
5149			to you. It only does not give you so much freedom to deny other people the
5150			same freedoms. The copyright holders can only do so, because copyright law
5151			itself give you none of these rights at all.
5152			[...]
5153			Wolfgang Walter
5154	root	1.387	%
5155	root	1.98	burro: i once played against a computer
5156			burro: it seemed very clever
5157			burro: but then all its groups died in yose
5158			burro: it forgot to defend later..
5159			burro: oops
5160			burro: accidental poetry
5161	root	1.387	%
5162	root	1.98	[about a go game between a pro player and some really good amateur,
5163			where white could have lived easily but decided to risk it]
5164			yoyoma [7k]: white is pro, rather die gloriosly than live in gote with a7!
5165	root	1.387	%
5166	root	1.98	[from the default config of the oh-so-broken unrealircd]
5167			#define BIG_SECURITY_HOLE
5168	root	1.387	%
5169	root	1.98	"In fact the whole of Japan is pure invention. There is no such country, there are no such people."
5170			-- Oscar Wilde
5171	root	1.387	%
5172	root	1.98	[a principle used in florida's law]
5173			"guilty until proven innocent"
5174			[http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/main.htm]
5175	root	1.387	%
5176	root	1.98	Wonderful news! A little Jewish woman, calling Mount Sinai Hospital,
5177			said, "Hello, darling, I'd like to talk with the person who gives the
5178			information regarding your patients. I want to know if the patient is
5179			getting better, or doing like expected, or is getting worse." The voice
5180			on the other end of the line said, "What is the patient's name and room
5181			number?" She said, "Yes, darling! she's Sarah Finkel, in Room 302." He
5182			said, "Oh, yes. Mrs. Finkel is doing very well. In fact, she's had two
5183			full meals, her blood pressure is fine, her blood work just came back
5184			as normal, she's going to be taken off the heart monitor in a couple of
5185			hours and if she continues this improvement, Dr. Cohen is going to send
5186			her home Tuesday at twelve o' clock." The woman said, "Thank God! That's
5187			wonderful! Oh! that's fantastic, darling!... That's wonderful news!" The
5188			man on the phone said, "From your enthusiasm, I take it you must be a
5189			close family member or a very close friend!" She said, "I'm Sarah Finkel
5190			in 302! My doctor doesn't tell me shit!
5191	root	1.387	%
5192	root	1.98	[gcc-3.2/.../sstream>
5193			// NB: Start ostringstream buffers at 512 bytes. This is an
5194			// experimental value (pronounced "arbitrary" in some of the
5195			// hipper english-speaking countries), and can be changed to
5196			// suit particular needs.
5197			_M_buf_size_opt = 512;
5198	root	1.387	%
5199	root	1.98	[members.aon.at/paulinchen/advtex/sanitar.htm]
5200			[Walkthrough SANITARIUM]
5201			... Deshalb suchst du erneut den Wassertempel auf. ... Dort haust du als
5202	root	1.388	Grimwall den Lukas ... Darauf hin öffnet der Clown seinen Mund und du
5203	root	1.98	kannst als Olmec die Melodie ...
5204	root	1.387	%
5205	root	1.97	[Onibaba - Great Movie]
5206			http://us.imdb.com/Title?0058430
5207	root	1.387	%
5208	root	1.97	[Kuroneko - I'd like to see :(]
5209			http://us.imdb.com/Title?0122136
5210	root	1.387	%
5211	root	1.96	[<Sesse> microsoft finally takes security seriously]
5212			[http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q276304]
5213			Error Message: Your Password Must Be at Least 18770 Characters and Cannot Repeat Any of Your Previous 30689 Passwords
5214	root	1.387	%
5215	root	1.96	GNU Emacs kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 11.300
5216			vi - Editor. Kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 2.333
5217	root	1.388	XML für Dummies. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 225.881
5218			JavaScript für Dummies. Dynamische Websites selbst gemacht. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 24.576
5219	root	1.387	%
5220	root	1.96	[http://kyushu.com/gleaner/editorspick/seppuku.shtml]
5221
5222			[...] Obviously you have to decide well in advance why you are doing
5223			[seppuku] [...] Resistance, remonstrance, show of loyalty, affirmation of
5224			the correctness of one's own position, expiation of a crime and the wiping
5225			out of disgrace are all perfectly good reasons; being refused a work visa
5226			is not [...]
5227	root	1.387	%
5228	root	1.247	Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd
5229	root	1.95	all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
5230			repetitive electronic music." --Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
5231	root	1.387	%
5232	root	1.94	[some hilights from:]
5233			[http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/Fachbegriffe.der.Informatik.html]
5234
5235	root	1.388	_Einfach erklärt_
5236	root	1.94
5237			GUI
5238			Ein Hintergrundbild und 12 Xterms
5239			Globale Variable
5240	root	1.388	Parameterübergabemechanismus in 4GLs
5241	root	1.94	objektorientiert
5242			Den Code habe ich von meinem Vorgaenger geerbt.
5243			strukturiert
5244			dieses Programm besteht aus mehreren Funktionen
5245			Multithreaded
5246	root	1.388	Wir mußten ein Flußdiagramm malen, um es zu debuggen.
5247	root	1.94	Windows 95
5248	root	1.388	Das Fortran 77 der Benutzungsoberflächen
5249	root	1.94	Emacs
5250	root	1.388	Ich habe ja auch nie bezweifelt, daß emacs ein tolles Betriebssystem
5251			ist. Aber um mit Linux oder Windows konkurrieren zu können, fehlt ihm
5252			ein vernünftiger Editor.
5253	root	1.94	IPv6
5254			$ telnet hundehalsband.georg.hunde.sonnenstrasse.muenchen.de
5255			Trying 942884947298374923847982472983. 2398749874987249247.
5256			2398472372349. 3249782374927898324. 2987238479874987398634.
5257			2987428901171209471. 23987432923. 23478987923.
5258	root	1.388	Die fünf Sinne des C++-Programmierers
5259			Der Schwachsinn, der Blödsinn, der Wahnsinn, der Unsinn und der Stumpfsinn.
5260	root	1.247	PHP
5261	root	1.388	Meine C-64-Basic-Übungen hat niemand zu Gesicht bekommen, während die
5262	root	1.94	in PHP verbrochenen Laufstall-Verunfallungen heutiger Milchgesichter
5263	root	1.388	die Welt verpesten und womöglich von Schlipstraeger-Deppen als
5264			e-Commerce-Lösung gekauft worden sind.
5265	root	1.247	Alleinstellungsmerkmal
5266	root	1.94	Bunt.
5267	root	1.388	Plattformunabhängig
5268			Wenn Du GWBASIC im Dos-Emulator laufen läßt bist Du auch
5269			plattformunabhängig! Du brauchst nur einen Dos-Emulator!
5270	root	1.95	[94: Copyright left out, too long, see original url]
5271	root	1.387	%
5272	root	1.93	[logic & fallacies]
5273			http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html
5274	root	1.387	%
5275	root	1.93	http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/library/wonderful/index.php
5276	root	1.387	%
5277	root	1.93	[nah]
5278			In the Arthur Penn film "Night Moves," someone asks Gene Hackman for an
5279			appraisal of Eric Rohmer's work, to which he replies, "it's like watching
5280			paint dry."
5281	root	1.387	%
5282	root	1.92	http://www2.psy.uq.edu.au/~jay/papers/thesis.pdf
5283			http://home.attbi.com/~bglodis/htmf/AI2-GO2.htm
5284			http://newyork.villageworld.com/users/bradleym/index.htm
5285	root	1.387	%
5286	root	1.178	[Keith Packard about some design holes in X that lead to XRender]
5287	root	1.91	The rules themselves may be broken, but their existence is of vital
5288			importance.
5289	root	1.387	%
5290	root	1.91	[http://cbbrowne.com/info/xpersonal.html]
5291			[_very_ good pages, read them all!]
5292			Many things have been hacked onto Win32; unfortunately, actually using
5293			Windows-based facilities has two massive detrimental effects:
5294
5295			You have to trust Microsoft.
5296
5297			There are a number of things that I would trust Microsoft with. I trust
5298			Microsoft to continue to release buggy software such as the Windows 98
5299			release that needed patches to survive to 1999, let alone 2000. I trust
5300			Microsoft to continue to release software that gets more bloated such
5301			that it requires as much memory as systems can support just to support
5302			useless chrome.
5303
5304			But control over whether my code will continue to be usable next year
5305			whether due to technical or licensing changes is not one of the things
5306			I'd like to trust them with.
5307	root	1.93	[...]
5308	root	1.387	%
5309	root	1.91	[when choosing "About" from the mozilla menu]
5310			[now, which OS let's us enjoy similar error messages all the time? ;)]
5311			XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
5312			Location: jar:resource:///chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/global/about.xhtml
5313			Line Number 90, Column 15:
5314	root	1.247	<li>Copyright © 1998-2002 by <a href="about:credits">Contributors</a> to
5315	root	1.91	--------------^
5316	root	1.387	%
5317	root	1.91	[from the kanon 10% english translation patch README]
5318			[http://haeleth.port5.com/]
5319			A Japanese effect not found in English is the wonderful verbless sentence,
5320			which I like so much that I've translated a few literally. I do know
5321			English grammar, I assure you.
5322	root	1.387	%
5323	root	1.91	Giant hornets regularly attack beehives. Typically, an attack begins when
5324			a single hornet captures a lone bee nearby the hive. After several of
5325			these perimeter skirmishes, one hornet leaves a marking pheromone at the
5326			hive's entrance. This pheromone attracts the other hornets, who arrive
5327			en masse and attack the beehive. The bees' stingers can't penetrate the
5328			hornets' armor, so it's a one-sided slaughter; something like 30,000 bees
5329			can be killed in a few hours by 30-40 hornets.
5330
5331			Japanese honeybees, however, have evolved an interesting defensive
5332			strategy. When a hornet marks the hive's entrance, the bees guarding the
5333			entrance return to the hive and wait for the attacking hornets. This has
5334			the effect of luring the first attacking hornets into the hive, rather
5335			than allowing them to start their attack outside. Simultaneously, over
5336			1000 worker bees in the hive leave the combs and mass just inside the
5337			hive's entrance. When a hornet tries to enter the hive, the workers
5338			surround it, forming a ball of bodies, and cook it to death with their
5339			body heat. The bees also release a pheromone that draws ever more bees
5340			from the hive's interior to come to the entrance and defend the nest.
5341
5342			This strategy must be perfect in order to be successful. If the bees fail
5343			in killing the first hornet attackers, then the hornet pheromone gets
5344			stronger, and more hornets arrive to reinforce their attack. By sheer
5345			numbers, the hornets can overpower the bees.
5346
5347			Source: Bernd Heinrich, "The Thermal Warriors: Strategies of Insect
5348			Survival," Harvard University Press, 1996.
5349	root	1.387	%
5350	root	1.91	[http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/csrss-backspace-bug.html]
5351			[fixed in latest service packs, but still funny ;)]
5352			The following neat little program, when compiled and run, will completely
5353			crash XP (and any earlier version of NT) (when I ran it, XP rebooted). I
5354			don't recommend you really try this program, but if you do, save all your
5355			work etc first:
5356
5357			#include <stdio.h>
5358
5359			int main (void) {
5360			while (1)
5361			printf ("\t\t\b\b\b\b\b\b");
5362
5363			return 0;
5364			}
5365	root	1.387	%
5366	root	1.91	[you might point your windows-using-friends to this page, it
5367			contains a lot of funny FUD ;)]
5368	root	1.90	http://www.hevanet.com/peace/microsoft.htm
5369	root	1.387	%
5370	root	1.90	[http://eros.cs.jhu.edu/~shap/NT-EAL4.html]
5371			Security experts have been saying for years that the the security of
5372			the Windows family of products is hopelessly inadequate. Now there is a
5373			rigorous government certification confirming this.
5374	root	1.387	%
5375	root	1.89	[mms_client after finishing the download]
5376			everything done. Thank you for downloading a media file containing
5377			proprietary and patentend technology.
5378	root	1.387	%
5379	root	1.88	I wouldn't want to win the Steven Spielberg Award - he is an amateur!
5380	root	1.388	-- Aki Kaurismäki
5381	root	1.387	%
5382	root	1.87	[http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/godel.html]
5383	root	1.388	"The Gödelian structure of the unity of levels of Reality associated
5384	root	1.87	with the logic of the included middle implies that it is impossible to
5385			construct a complete theory for describing the passage from one level to
5386			the other and, a fortiori, for describing the unity of levels of Reality."
5387	root	1.387	%
5388	root	1.388	1. Das von den Parteien eingeführte Listenwahlrecht verstößt gegen
5389			Art. 38, Abs. 1, Satz 1 Grundgesetz (GG): »Die Abgeordneten des Deutschen
5390	root	1.87	Bundestages werden in allgemeiner, unmittelbarer, freier, gleicher und
5391	root	1.388	geheimer Wahl gewählt.« Danach muß es dem Bürger möglich sein, seinen
5392			Abgeordneten unmittelbar zu wählen. Die Wahl von Parteienlisten ist also
5393	root	1.87	verfassungswidrig, nicht zuletzt deshalb, weil hierbei Kandidaten zum Zuge
5394	root	1.388	kommen, die der Listenwähler nicht wählen will.
5395	root	1.87
5396	root	1.388	2. Der Fraktionszwang verstößt ebenfalls gegen das Grundgesetz. Satz
5397			2 des Art. 38, Abs. 1, lautet nämlich: »Sie (die Abgeordneten) sind
5398			Vertreter des ganzen Volkes, an Aufträge und Weisungen nicht gebunden
5399			und nur ihrem Gewissen unterworfen.« Wenn Fraktionsvorsitzende den frei
5400			gewählten Abgeordneten einer Fraktionsdisziplin unterwerfen (und das noch
5401			unter Androhung von Sanktionen), erteilen sie Weisungen darüber, wie die
5402	root	1.87	Abgeordneten der Partei abzustimmen haben. Es handelt sich dann um eine
5403			Form fraktionsinternen imperativen Mandats.
5404
5405	root	1.388	3. Die überbordende Staatsverschuldung (vor allem im Bund) verstößt gegen
5406			Art. 115 des GG. Darin heißt es in Abs. 1, Satz 2: »Die Einnahmen aus
5407			Krediten dürfen die Summe der im Haushaltsplan veranschlagten Ausgaben für
5408			Investitionen nicht überschreiten; Ausnahmen sind nur zulässig zur Abwehr
5409			einer Störung des gesamtwirtschaftlichen Gleichgewichts.« Unter Fachleuten
5410			besteht nicht der geringste Zweifel, daß das vorgeschriebene Kreditlimit
5411			(Höhe der »Ausgaben für Investitionen«) durch Haushaltstricks sträflich
5412			überschritten wurde. Die Folge: Im Jahre 2001 erreichte die Verschuldung
5413			der Gebietskörperschaften die unvorstellbare Höhe von 1.210 Mrd. Euro (im
5414			Bund: 700 Mrd. Euro); das sind 79 Prozent des jährlichen Volkseinkommens
5415	root	1.87	von 1.531 Mrd. Euro.
5416	root	1.387	%
5417	root	1.87	[just FMI (for my information)]
5418			http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7eflavell/charset/form-i18n.html
5419	root	1.387	%
5420	root	1.87	[perldoc perlboot]
5421			Typically, each @ISA has only one element (multiple elements means
5422			multiple inheritance and multiple headaches)
5423	root	1.387	%
5424	root	1.87	[I find that all this stallman-bashing is a sure sign that that
5425			"linux" thing will fail]
5426			In lists.linux.kernel.development, Larry McVoy wrote:
5427			[...]
5428	root	1.247	Richard Stallman started the free software foundation. He built the
5429	root	1.87	compiler, library and zillions of other tools that developers use on a day
5430			to day basis. He slept at the offices of MIT while he spent his time,
5431			effort and money building up the Free Software Foundation.
5432
5433			Though many people differ with him on a wide variety of issues, he
5434			deserves respect from all because he has devoted twenty years of his
5435			life to the public good.
5436
5437			You, on the other hand, develop and sell a proprietary software product.
5438			You convinced a large number of kernel developers (most importantly
5439			Linus himself) to use your proprietary product to develop free software,
5440			so that you could tell potential customers "Gee! Look how great my
5441			software is! It's used to develop the linux kernel!"
5442
5443			You don't care about free software Larry. You're just glad that you have
5444			a poster child to display your effort. Want proof? Look at how you have
5445			treated numerous kernel developers when you found out that they worked
5446			on free software projects that could potentially compete with your
5447			software some day -- you revoke their "free" license to use your
5448			software to work on the linux kernel!
5449
5450			Richard is trying to change the world into a better place. You, however,
5451			are trying to get rich, and you're using free software as a stepping
5452			stone to promote your proprietary software. Nothing wrong with getting
5453			rich of course -- I'd love to be rich too. But you certainly don't
5454			deserve to be lumped into the same group as RMS.
5455	root	1.387	%
5456	root	1.86	[perldoc perlreftut]
5457	root	1.247	What does line 4 do here?
5458			[...]
5459			This is Perl, so it does the exact right thing.
5460	root	1.387	%
5461	root	1.86	[perldoc perlreftut]
5462			Think of the President of the United States: a messy, inconvenient bag of
5463			blood and bones. But to talk about him, or to represent him in a computer
5464			program, all you need is the easy, convenient scalar string "George Bush".
5465	root	1.387	%
5466	root	1.86	[rise and fall of free software standards]
5467	root	1.247	* GNU Gettext and %expect
5468			GNU Gettext asserts 10 s/r conflicts, but there are 7. Now that
5469			Bison dies on incorrect %expectations, we fear there will be
5470			too many bug reports for Gettext, so _for the time being_, %expect
5471			does not trigger an error when the input file is named `plural.y'.
5472	root	1.387	%
5473	root	1.86	Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers.
5474			-- Leonard Brandwein
5475	root	1.387	%
5476	root	1.85	[11:57] <schmorp> email@wanadoo.fr
5477	root	1.247	[11:57] <schmorp> you know what wannados are?
5478			[11:58] <Arvoreen> the french pendant of aol users ??
5479			[11:58] <schmorp> nope
5480			[11:58] <Arvoreen> then no clue
5481			[11:58] <schmorp> "people who fail before they even try"
5482			[12:00] <Zeograd> wanadoo was actually named following this idea, sigh
5483			[12:00] <schmorp> not really, yes?
5484			[12:00] <Zeograd> yes
5485			[12:00] <schmorp> ;);)
5486			[12:03] <schmorp> that "yes" sounded really painful
5487			[12:03] <Zeograd> more than you could imagine :)
5488	root	1.387	%
5489	root	1.247	[11:37] <Arvoreen> Oui mon francais est un peu
5490			[11:38] <Zeograd> Arvoreen: not bad, it doesn't mean much but it sounds french :)
5491	root	1.387	%
5492	root	1.84	A Russian hacker was sentenced to three years in prison here in the
5493			United States for breaking computer crime laws here. It's an
5494			interesting story. He was in Russia at the time, and broke no laws in
5495			his country. However, the U.S. prosecution broke Russian laws to
5496			collect evidence against him. The judge agreed with the FBI's
5497			assertion that Russian law didn't apply to them. Isn't international
5498			jurisprudence fun?
5499			<http://in.tech.yahoo.com/021005/137/1w2bq.html>
5500	root	1.387	%
5501	root	1.247	[02:58] <Sesse> microsoft finally gets it:
5502			[02:58] <Sesse> Visual Basic .NET delivers the feature most requested by existing Visual Basic
5503			[02:58] <Sesse> developers--fewer bugs in the code they write.
5504	root	1.84	[...]
5505	root	1.247	[03:00] <Sesse> "VB programmers have finally found out they lack talent, and blame Microsoft" ;-)
5506	root	1.387	%
5507	root	1.84	[found at www.imdb.com]
5508			the trouble with the global village are all the global village idiots.
5509			- Paul Ginsparg.
5510	root	1.387	%
5511	root	1.84	prionbrain: A joke I just read: " A girl phoned me the other day and
5512			said, .. come on over, there's nobody home. I went over. There was nobody
5513			home.":))
5514			[erm...]
5515	root	1.387	%
5516	root	1.84	> described above, CONFIG_XBOX_SUPPORT will depend on CONFIG_PCI.
5517
5518	root	1.247	Which seems fair enough. ISA bus X-box systems are suprisingly rare
5519	root	1.387	%
5520	root	1.247	[05:06] <elmex> windows has 2 left hands when it comes to being an OS
5521	root	1.387	%
5522	root	1.83	[http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/mml/mduerst/papers/PDF/IUC11-UTF-8.pdf]
5523
5524			[...] In particular, the following behaviour proposed or observed in some
5525			implementations is not UTF-8 and should never be presented as such. First,
5526			UTF16 surrogate pairs could be encoded in UTF-8 as two sequences of 3
5527			bytes each (this behaviour is observed in some Java implementations).
5528	root	1.387	%
5529	root	1.83	.+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+''
5530			/ \ / \ / \ / \ /
5531			.+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+'
5532	root	1.387	%
5533	root	1.82	From: "David S. Miller"
5534	root	1.83
5535			> Then shouldn't the thing thats different from the norm be programmed into a header file which contains how certain functions should be+++
5536	root	1.82
5537			If I gave you a dollar, would you go out and buy some newlines
5538			to use in future emails?
5539	root	1.387	%
5540	root	1.82	Could somebody drag the Irix team kicking and screaming into the 1980's,
5541			please?
5542
5543			I realize it might be quite painful for them, but maybe you could buy them
5544			a disco tape, so they'd feel a little bit more at home.
5545
5546	root	1.247	Linus "Stayin' alive, stayin' alive" Torvalds
5547	root	1.387	%
5548	root	1.82	Yesterday, the local Brazilian authorities signed a decree stating that the
5549			Brazilian daylight saving period will start on November 3rd 2002 and will
5550			last until February 16th 2003.
5551
5552			So, clocks will be set one hour forward on November 3rd (12:00 a.m. will be
5553			changed to 1:00 a.m.) and at midnight (0:00 am) on February 16th, Brazil
5554			will adjust its clocks back one hour (23:00 pm on Feb 15th) marking the
5555			end.
5556
5557			The reason for the delay this year has to do with elections in Brazil.
5558
5559			Unlike in the United States, elections in Brazil are 100% computerized and
5560			the results are known almost immediately. Yesterday, it was the first
5561			round of the elections when 115 million Brazilians voted for President,
5562			Governor, Senators, Federal Deputies, and State Deputies. Nobody is
5563			counting (or re-counting) votes anymore and we know there will be a second
5564			round for the Presidency and also for some Governors. The 2nd round will
5565			take place on October 27th.
5566
5567			The reason why the DST will only begin November 3rd is that the thousands
5568			of electoral machines used cannot have their time changed, and since the
5569			Constitution says the elections must begin at 8:00 AM and end at 5:00 PM ,
5570			the Government decided to postpone DST, instead of changing the
5571			Constitution (maybe, for the next elections, it will be possible to change
5572			the clock)...
5573	root	1.387	%
5574	root	1.81	[boycot your enemies]
5575			> We're a business. We're a business which happens to be committed to
5576			> helping the kernel team because we think that the kernel is vital to the
5577			> world at large. Helping the kernel absolutely does not translate to
5578			> helping people who happen to be our competitors. By your own
5579
5580			Stop lying. Your job is to make lots of money and you are using Linux as
5581			cheap advertising. You are trying to make people pay you to do kernel
5582			development (as it stands you want $5000 for any bk-using developer inside
5583			RedHat and SuSE).
5584
5585			I hope your company dies ASAP and bitkeeper stops poisoning air here.
5586
5587			Pavel
5588	root	1.387	%
5589	root	1.81	Rik
5590	root	1.247	--
5591	root	1.81	A: No.
5592			Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?
5593	root	1.387	%
5594	root	1.81	> Incidently unlimited permission is granted to use disks containing only
5595	root	1.247	> GNU/Linux software as footballs without royalties. All other usage of
5596			> disks as footballs will be considered on a per case basis.
5597	root	1.81
5598			I would be inclined to allow this for Windows drives instead. They contain
5599			no useful data.
5600
5601	root	1.247	--
5602	root	1.81	bill davidsen
5603	root	1.387	%
5604	root	1.80	In the switching software (written in C)
5605			there was a long do..while construct,
5606			which contained a switch statement,
5607			which contained an if clause,
5608			which contained a break,
5609			which was intended for the if clause,
5610			but instead broke from the switch statement.
5611
5612			- Network message explaining the breakdown of the AT&T long-distance
5613			network January 15, 1990
5614	root	1.387	%
5615	root	1.80	[From "password retrieval policies" of some irc network:]
5616
5617	root	1.247	They are likely to continue asking for the password, even after you have
5618			told them that it has been E-Mailed. /Ignore the stupid user. /Kick the
5619			stupid user. Do not /Kill the stupid user, since being stupid is not a
5620			violation of network policies.
5621	root	1.80
5622			[the same document, explaining K:Lines]
5623
5624			K:Lines - These lines define which clients are not allowed to connect.
5625			The format is as follows:
5626
5627			K:*.aol.com:AOL sucks:lamer
5628	root	1.387	%
5629	root	1.79	[Microsoft's Craig Mundie on security.]
5630			"People confuse 'security' and Trustworthy Computing."
5631			http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/features/2002/feb02/02-20mundieqa.asp
5632	root	1.387	%
5633	root	1.79	http://staging.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/09/05/020905hnmssecure.xml
5634			"I'm not proud," [Brian] Valentine [senior vice president in charge of
5635			Microsoft's Windows development team] said, as he spoke to a crowd of
5636			developers here at the company's Windows .Net Server developer
5637			conference. "We really haven't done everything we could to protect our
5638			customers ... Our products just aren't engineered for security."
5639			...
5640			"If you go back a few years, unless you were working on login at
5641			Microsoft, you really didn't worry about security. The risk wasn't worth
5642			the effort."
5643	root	1.387	%
5644	root	1.79	http://www.satirewire.com/news/aug02/encryption.shtml
5645	root	1.387	%
5646	root	1.79	[please bear with me and understand that I didn't intend to drive
5647			gay people mad at me with this one...]
5648	root	1.78	[10:16] <pixelpapst> Wenn man ihn mal mit so 'nem richtigen Bilderbuch-Schwulen wie
5649	root	1.247	Lukas vergleicht :)
5650			[10:16] <elmex> Lukas is net schwul, er is Consultant
5651	root	1.387	%
5652	root	1.76	http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/tenseg1.html
5653	root	1.387	%
5654	root	1.76	http://24.86.132.253/090101/feature/feature.htm
5655	root	1.387	%
5656	root	1.76	I maintain a /bin/ps that supports BSD, SysV, and Gnu syntax all at the
5657			same time. It requires Linux. This one works; the Red Hat one is broken.
5658			[Albert Cahalan]
5659	root	1.387	%
5660	root	1.75	The Berkeley shell csh is reasonably well known and widely used and its
5661			externals have been subject to some criticism. The internals of csh are at
5662			least as bad, but lesser known.
5663	root	1.387	%
5664	root	1.75	There are billions of different ways of parsing argv, the list of command
5665			line arguments passed to a C program. The problem is that they are all
5666			different.
5667	root	1.387	%
5668	root	1.75	A common disease in programs written at Berkeley is to open /dev/kmem and grub the load averages out by the dirtiest means possible.
5669	root	1.387	%
5670	root	1.76	[no, I still don't like bondage & discipline]
5671			http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/~geldridg/eiffel/liberty/meyer-bertrand/java/bm-2nd.html
5672	root	1.387	%
5673	root	1.74	[about the early CD-R dyes]
5674			The early, immature media caused some interesting problems. A certain
5675			popular Technics CD player, often used in radio stations, had a bad habit
5676			of accepting the early media, but refusing to eject it, causing much
5677			consternation to disc jockeys who were left without a player and possibly
5678			without a show.
5679	root	1.387	%
5680	root	1.76	[more of a timestamp]
5681	root	1.73	"SANS, SOUCI"
5682	root	1.387	%
5683	root	1.72	http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/canthappen.html
5684	root	1.387	%
5685	root	1.71	The Ten Commandments for C Programmers
5686			http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/commandments.html
5687	root	1.387	%
5688	root	1.71	[Bruce Schneier]
5689			A bill introduced into Congress gives copyright holders -- that's the RIAA,
5690			the MPAA, and similar guys -- the right to break into people's computers if
5691	root	1.247	they have a reasonable basis to believe that copyright infringement is
5692	root	1.71	going on.
5693			[...]
5694	root	1.247	People they choose to target would be deemed guilty until proven
5695			otherwise. In short, this bill would set up the entertainment industry
5696			as a Gestapo-like enforcement agency with no oversight.
5697	root	1.387	%
5698	root	1.70	[06:20] <Draxxon> BTW, (being from the USA) If pro is the grammatical
5699			opposite of con, then the opposite of "progress" would be... "Congress"???
5700	root	1.387	%
5701	root	1.247	You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
5702	root	1.387	%
5703	root	1.69	http://www29.compaq.com/falco/detail.asp?FAQnum=FAQ2859
5704	root	1.387	%
5705	root	1.69	[practical go humor]
5706			Lantu: ok any suggestions for good practical jokes to play on Pro's? :]
5707			id: Make a line of five stones, yell "Pente", and insist you've won.
5708	root	1.387	%
5709	root	1.68	[windows API rocks]
5710			The FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS enumeration type defines values that are used with
5711			the FindFirstFileEx function to specify the information level of the
5712			returned data.
5713
5714	root	1.247	typedef enum _FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS {
5715			FindExInfoStandard
5716			} FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS ;
5717	root	1.387	%
5718	root	1.388	[Arvoreen philosophiert über die Verkleinerung von GNOME mit strip]
5719	root	1.67	[05:10] <Arvoreen> 153MB gestripped und vorher 541MB
5720			[05:13] <Arvoreen> oder wie der Wirtschaftswissenschaftler sagen wuerde um 354%
5721	root	1.247	kleiner ;-)))))) (die haben ja die prozente oberhalb von 100 erfunden)
5722	root	1.387	%
5723	root	1.66	[Microsoft documents how file types are detected in IE. No wonder
5724			it doesn't work:]
5725			1. If the "suggested" (server-provided) MIME type is unknown (not
5726			known and not ambiguous), FindMimeFromData immediately returns
5727			this MIME type as the final determination.
5728	root	1.387	%
5729	root	1.65	[freshmeat. And this release even adds ANOTHER codepage. I am impressed]
5730
5731			Recode 0.1.1
5732			by Eugene V. Chernyshev - Friday, June 28th 2002 01:58 EDT
5733
5734			About: Recode is a fast Russian codepage translator. It translates between
5735			three different codepages: DOS 866, Windows CP-1251, and UNIX KOI8-R.
5736
5737			Changes: This release adds an ISO-8859-5 codepage.
5738	root	1.387	%
5739	root	1.65	http://www.tmk.com/ftp/humor/computer-error-messages.txt
5740	root	1.387	%
5741	root	1.64	$S=eval'sub{eval"sub{%S}"}';$S->({});
5742	root	1.387	%
5743	root	1.64	[From CRYPTO-GRAM]
5744
5745			Microsoft's "Trustworthy Computing" initiative seems to be
5746			just a scam so the company can avoid antitrust remedies by
5747			claiming that opening their systems is a security risk. Pity.
5748			<http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s=701%26a=26605,00.asp>
5749			<http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D701%2526a%253D26875,00.asp>
5750			A comment on Slashdot sums it up best: "Microsoft has therefore taken
5751			the position that their code is so bad that it must be kept secret to
5752			keep people from being killed by it. Windows -- the Pinto of the 21st
5753			century."
5754
5755			Most interesting of the two articles above is the second eWeek article,
5756			where Microsoft's Allchin mentions "at least one protocol and two APIs
5757			that it plans to withhold from public disclosure under the security
5758			carve-out." The protocol is Message Queuing. Apparently, Microsoft
5759			has discovered a security flaw in the Message Queuing protocol so bad
5760			that can't be fixed without breaking existing applications. So, until
5761			such time as they can field a backwards-compatible fix, they're going
5762			to hope no one else discovers it. (This is not a wholly unreasonable
5763			decision; security researchers have made the same decision in the
5764			past.) Of course, Allchin has undermined this decision by publicly
5765			naming the protocol. That's more than enough for someone sufficiently
5766			motivated to find the flaw. In the classified world, you can get your
5767			clearance pulled for blabbing like that. Jim Allchin's testimony:
5768			<http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/trial/mswitness/2002/allchin.asp>
5769
5770			At the same time, Microsoft tries to convince the Pentagon that open source
5771			software threatens security, and using proprietary Microsoft software is
5772			much safer (and better for the economy, to boot). This article is
5773			hilarious in light of the above.
5774			<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60050-2002May22.html>
5775
5776			A report on something called a Tactical Web Page, which purports to be a
5777			secret combat Web site, through which American commanders in the United
5778			States can direct troops in Afghanistan. My favorite quote: "'There have
5779			been a few instances when unidentified computers have tried to get in, in
5780			which case we throw up additional firewalls,' Lt. Col. Bryan Dyer
5781			said." Is it just me, or does Lt. Col. Dyer come from I-Don't-Get-It Land?
5782			<http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,52861,00.html>
5783
5784			Yet more comments from the clueless. In response to the report that
5785			someone hacked into Experian's database and stole 13,000 credit-card
5786			numbers, a PR flack said: "Our files are protected by state-of-the-art,
5787			Star Wars-style security and encryption technology."
5788	root	1.65	<http://www.lendingintelligence.com/news.ez?viewStory=1123&Form.sess_id=845521234&Form.sess_key=1022430845>
5789	root	1.387	%
5790	root	1.64	http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,52901,00.html
5791	root	1.387	%
5792	root	1.388	ich: ich hätte gerne ein nummernschild in unna: "un-ix 123"
5793			zotan: sei froh, daß du nicht in wiesbaden wohnst: "wi-n 95"
5794	root	1.387	%
5795	root	1.63	"There are two ways of constructing a piece of software: One is to make it
5796			so simple that there are obviously no errors, and the other is to make it
5797			so complicated that there are no obvious errors."
5798
5799			Tony Hoare
5800	root	1.387	%
5801	root	1.388	Nach dem Gesetz über Einheiten im Meßwesen vom 2. Juli 1969 in der Fassung
5802			vom 22. Februar 1985 dürfte Word im geschäftlichen und amtlichen Verkehr
5803	root	1.63	_nicht_ eingesetzt werden, da es mit dem Punkt eine nicht-SI-konforme
5804	root	1.388	Maßeinheit verwendet.
5805	root	1.387	%
5806	root	1.63	From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5807
5808			[...]
5809			The Nforce is basically completely unsupported by 2.2. It is mostly unsupported
5810			by 2.4. The networking built into the chipset is not supported by either
5811			system. Basically its windows computer
5812	root	1.387	%
5813	root	1.63	[go figure...]
5814	root	1.247	<JanMan> read(3, 0x8102cc8, 32768) = -1 ESRCH (No such process)
5815	root	1.387	%
5816	root	1.63	Subject: Re: Off topic: Solaris 9 announced, a lot of Linux incorporated
5817
5818			> In today's world of heterogeneous computing, compatibility leads
5819			> to efficiency. Combining the Linux community with thousands of
5820			> Solaris software developers and nearly three million Java and XML
5821			> software developers...
5822
5823			Homeopathic approach to software development?
5824	root	1.387	%
5825	root	1.63	> > Patch is severely broken in its current form, not only for the
5826			> > reasons you stated, but also because of its inability to handle
5827			> > renaming in any sane way. I want a patch --sane option.
5828			>
5829			> I bet BitKeeper gets it right... ;-) ;-) ;-)
5830
5831			Funny you should mention that, since Bitkeeper has embarrassed itself pretty
5832			badly with respect to patches, so far.
5833
5834			- Somebody decided to add another level on top of the linux root directory
5835			in their source directory. I can't import patches into that.
5836
5837			- I can apply patches to bitkeeper repository using the normal 'patch',
5838			but Bitkeeper gets its revenge later, as each bk edit command starts
5839			off by throwing away the patch.
5840
5841			Given the hype, I expected more. I want a tool to save work for me, not
5842			create new work. I don't think I'll be using Bitkeeper as a substitute for
5843			patch any time soon.
5844
5845			--
5846			Daniel
5847	root	1.387	%
5848	root	1.62	From: "Miquel van Smoorenburg" <miquels@cistron.nl>
5849			Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 23:18:34 +0000 (UTC)
5850			[...]
5851			Bummer, I'm using Debian, and iostat is in woody (frozen, about to
5852			be released) - that means Debian users will have to wait to the
5853			next release, another two years perhaps, before iostat gets working.
5854	root	1.387	%
5855	root	1.62	[no comments ;)]
5856
5857			I've installed kernel 2.5.15 (should include aio support) an libaio (0.3.7).
5858			It seams that libaio.so depends on libredhat-kernel.so.1. Why?
5859			Is it realy needed?
5860	root	1.387	%
5861	root	1.62	[W. Richard Stevens about the 3.2 streams "poll" function:]
5862
5863			int poll(struct pollfd *fdarray, unsigned long nfds, int timeout);
5864
5865			[...] The number of elements in the array of structures [...] is
5866			specified by the nfds argument. (Why this argument is specified as
5867			an unsigned long integer, and not a simple integer, is perplexing.)
5868	root	1.387	%
5869	root	1.62	[www.intel.com]
5870			Over 70 Internet Streaming Single Instruction Multiple Data (SIMD)
5871			extensions enhance streaming multimedia and graphics applications, both on
5872			the hard drive and over the Internet. With SIMD, audio and video
5873			download faster, with clearer sound quality, deeper color and resolution,
5874			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
5875			and enlarged images with smoother frame rates.
5876	root	1.387	%
5877	root	1.61	From: Alexander Viro
5878
5879			On Thu, 9 May 2002, Tomas Szepe wrote:
5880			> > I did quite a bit of this work for CML2 - bus dependencies can be
5881			> > found in the CML2 sources.
5882			>
5883			> Btw, what happened to CML2?
5884
5885			This is an ex-parrot
5886	root	1.387	%
5887	root	1.61	From: David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>
5888
5889			> > It doesn't have to be an O(n lg(n)) method but could you use something
5890			> > besides bubblesort? Insertion sort, selection sort, etc. are just as
5891			> > easy and they don't have the horrific stigma of being "the worst sorting
5892			> > algorithm ever" etc.
5893			>
5894			> Surely the worst (working) sort is randomsort? (Check if sorted. If not,
5895			> pick two entries at random, exchange, retry.)
5896
5897			I've always been a fan of bit-decay sort.
5898
5899			while (!sorted(data))
5900			;
5901	root	1.387	%
5902	root	1.61	Subject: Re: Bitkeeper licence issues
5903			From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5904
5905			> This should be a reflex for someone with such a Sun heritage like you...
5906
5907			You obviously never used SunOS4. Its a bit before security became relevant
5908			to computing
5909	root	1.387	%
5910	root	1.61	From: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
5911
5912			On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:05:39 -0500, joeja@mindspring.com wrote:
5913			>What limits the number of threads one can have on a Linux system?
5914
5915			Common sense, one would hope.
5916	root	1.387	%
5917	root	1.61	From: Toon Moene
5918			[...]
5919
5920			Obviously, the only way I could support this effort is by rewriting the
5921			backend to use FORTRAN; that way it would finally be possible to
5922			translate the Linux kernel into FORTRAN and vindicate this:
5923
5924			http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/chist.html
5925
5926			"Challenged by McIlroy's feat in reproducing TMG, Thompson decided that
5927			Unix - possibly it had not even been named yet - needed a system
5928			programming language. After a rapidly scuttled attempt at Fortran, he
5929			created instead a language of his own, which he called B"
5930
5931			:-)
5932	root	1.387	%
5933	root	1.247	"... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that,
5934			lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of
5935			their C programs."
5936	root	1.60
5937			Robert Firth
5938	root	1.387	%
5939	root	1.59	[miri@ccc.de]
5940	root	1.388	Moooooment, das sind zwei Sachen die miteinander zusammenhängen...
5941	root	1.59	[and after some quarrel...]
5942			Ich lasse mich ungern zitieren!
5943	root	1.387	%
5944	root	1.68	[Klaus Knopper, and no, I don't think this, to the contrary :(]
5945	root	1.388	Ich bin Marc Lehmann begegnet, und seitdem glaube ich, er hält mich für blöd.
5946	root	1.387	%
5947	root	1.57	[Content-Type used by Microsoft for .exe files]
5948			Content-Type: application/x-msdownload
5949	root	1.387	%
5950	root	1.68	[from windows' wininet.h]
5951	root	1.56	#define ERROR_INTERNET_INSERT_CDROM (INTERNET_ERROR_BASE + 53)
5952	root	1.387	%
5953	root	1.388	Für die Erkenntnis, dass Perl produktivitätssteigernd wirkt, kämpfe ich hier
5954	root	1.56	in meinem Laden allerdings noch. Interessanterweise sind die Leute, die
5955			selber programmieren, mittlerweile fast alle auf meiner Seite; die Leute,
5956	root	1.388	dir organisieren und selber gar nicht programmieren können, halten Perl für
5957			eine Art Spielzeug, oder für ein Quick-and-Dirty-Tool, das man bei
5958	root	1.56	erstbester Gelegenheit durch etwas professionelles ersetzen muss (was
5959			vermutlich von Microsoft stammt).
5960
5961			Aber ich arbeite weiter dran...
5962
5963			\Gisbert
5964	root	1.387	%
5965	root	1.55	http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
5966	root	1.387	%
5967	root	1.55	P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the
5968			world like English did. Er, as English did...
5969			--Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393@wall.org>
5970	root	1.387	%
5971	root	1.54	From: Felix von Leitner <usenet-20020216@fefe.de>
5972			Subject: Re: Disgusted with kbuild developers
5973
5974			I don't have python. Any version of python.
5975			[...]
5976	root	1.387	%
5977	root	1.54	[perldoc Test::Harness]
5978			Additional comments may be put into the testing output on their own lines.
5979			Comment lines should begin with a '#', Test::Harness will ignore them.
5980
5981			ok 1
5982			# Life is good, the sun is shining, RAM is cheap.
5983			not ok 2
5984			# got 'Bush' expected 'Gore'
5985	root	1.387	%
5986	root	1.54	I specialize in storage, and C is self taught.
5987
5988			Cheers,
5989
5990			Andre Hedrick
5991			Linux Disk Certification Project Linux ATA Development
5992	root	1.387	%
5993	root	1.54	> > The new lock uses a combination of a spinlock and a (mutex-)semaphore.
5994	root	1.247	>
5995	root	1.54	> Spinaphore :-)
5996
5997			Or mutabloat :-(
5998	root	1.387	%
5999	root	1.54	Microsoft Outlook IS the problem. Blaming it IS correct. Removing
6000			Outlook IS the solution.
6001	root	1.387	%
6002	root	1.54	Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
6003	root	1.387	%
6004	root	1.53	From: Ricky Beam
6005
6006			Yep. I still laugh at those who say "bandwidth is free." They've obviously
6007			never bought anything from UUNet.
6008	root	1.387	%
6009	root	1.53	deconstructionism -- (a philosophical theory of criticism ...
6010			that seeks to expose deep-seated contradictions in a work
6011			by delving below its surface meaning)
6012	root	1.387	%
6013	root	1.52	http://brics.dk/~cw97/ProceedingS/01.ps.gz
6014	root	1.387	%
6015	root	1.52	From: Alan Cox
6016
6017			> and hire all the lawyers they'd want...at the end of the day, could you
6018			> just go to court and say:
6019
6020			Oh glorious naivety.
6021
6022			> The law seems pretty damn clear on this issue (in fact Subsection 3.c
6023			> sounds like I could quite happily send it to someone in the USA if they
6024			> can do the work better than I).
6025
6026			You release the code
6027
6028			The next day an injunction arrives in the post
6029
6030			The day after that the large corporate lawyers slap a secrecy order on you
6031			preventing you discussing the case with anyone but your legal representative
6032			by convincing some pissed geriatric moron in the high court that if he
6033			doesnt sign it you'll tell the whole world and harm them irrepairably
6034
6035			Over the next week 10-15,000 pages of documents arrive for you, followed
6036			by a couple of thousand discovery requests.
6037
6038			A week later while you are reading them they file for summary judgement
6039			because you have failed to file the defence. You lose. Game over
6040
6041			Then the court costs bankrupt you.
6042
6043			Sound like fiction - it happens _regularly_. Its very rare (McLibel case
6044			is extremely unusual) that it can ever be talked about on a per case basis,
6045			or that the good guys win.
6046
6047			This is why everyone doing innovative computing work does it outside of the
6048			US, and outside of most of the EU.
6049	root	1.387	%
6050	root	1.51	From: Alan Cox
6051
6052			[...]
6053			I would not perform such work in the united kingdom. Perform it in a free
6054			country. Reverse engineering that might offend a large corporation in the UK
6055	root	1.247	is only viable if you have five million pounds to hand, a law firm and a
6056	root	1.51	year to kill.
6057	root	1.387	%
6058	root	1.51	[CRYPTO-GRAM, January 2002]
6059			Windows UPnP Vulnerability
6060
6061			[...]
6062			Here's a quote from Scott Culp, manager of Microsoft's security response
6063			center: "This is the first network-based, remote compromise that I'm aware
6064			of for Windows desktop systems."
6065			[...]
6066			eEye Digital Security told Microsoft about this vulnerability nearly two
6067			months before Microsoft released its patch.
6068			[...]
6069			UPnP is a complex set of protocols to support ad hoc peer-to-peer
6070			networking. Even though no one uses it, it's installed in a bunch of
6071			Microsoft OSs. Even though no one needs it turned on, sometimes it's
6072			turned on by default.
6073			[...]
6074			The industry analysts at Gartner issued a warning, urging companies to
6075			delay upgrading to Windows XP for "three to six months," lest more of
6076			these kind of vulnerabilities surface.
6077			[...]
6078			Honestly, security experts don't pick on Microsoft because we have some
6079			fundamental dislike for the company. Indeed, Microsoft's poor products
6080			are one of the reasons we're in business. We pick on them because they've
6081			done more to harm Internet security than anyone else, because they
6082			repeatedly lie to the public about their products' security, and because
6083			they do everything they can to convince people that the problems lie
6084			anywhere but inside Microsoft. Microsoft treats security vulnerabilities
6085			as public relations problems. Until that changes, expect more of this
6086			kind of nonsense from Microsoft and its products.
6087	root	1.387	%
6088	root	1.50	http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2102244,00.html
6089	root	1.387	%
6090	root	1.49	[following links in 2002, http://www.myguestbook.de/book.asp?id=1510]
6091	root	1.388	Der Gästebuchservice wurde aufgrund
6092	root	1.49
6093			technischer Schwierigkeiten eingestellt.
6094
6095			Monday, 06. November 2000
6096	root	1.387	%
6097	root	1.247	[01:42] <reeler> 22:57 < JanMan> elmex: du stoerst, aber das verstehst du nicht.
6098			[01:42] <reeler> #schmorp , de , Thu Jan 10 00:34:42 2002
6099	root	1.387	%
6100	root	1.90	[http://davesource.com/Projects/DEStiny/x.c.html as found by google]
6101	root	1.48	* If you are outside of the United States, then you do not have
6102			* the legal right to export/download/view this program.
6103			[too late, I broke the law, again!]
6104	root	1.387	%
6105	root	1.47	Our standards say that a compiler crash, for any input whatsoever, no
6106			matter how invalid (even if you feed in line noise), is a bug. Other than
6107			that we shouldn't make promises, though the old gcc1 behavior of trying to
6108			launch a game of rogue or hack when encountering a #pragma was cute.
6109	root	1.387	%
6110	root	1.47	> Of course, that "other operating system" does not require you to
6111			> manually mount CD-ROMs at all.
6112
6113			Nor does Linux if you set it up right. Its a case of making proper use of
6114			existing interfaces and a bit of userspace magic. And all done without the
6115			student fun of leaving "format/u c:" autostart cd-r's around labelled "porn"
6116	root	1.387	%
6117	root	1.47	From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
6118			X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6]
6119
6120			> It never shows up in the maintainer's inbox, leaving them more time to
6121			> address the remainder. And fewer of the increasingly bitter complaints of
6122			> dropped patches.
6123
6124			Most mangled diffs I get are caused by pine. Fixing pine would do more
6125	root	1.247	wonders than any magical patchbot. I also get patches and changes from
6126	root	1.47	people who quite genuinely either can't mail me unmangled diffs (eg the
6127			lotus corporate mail policy afflicted) or are from people who may really
6128			know their stuff and even be the vendor but are not familiar with the
6129			patch/diff tools. A robot isn't going to teach them.
6130	root	1.387	%
6131	root	1.46	I remind you: ORACLE 9i is requiring half a gig as a minimum just due to
6132			the use of the CRAPPY PIECE OF SHIT written in the Java, called, you guess
6133			it: Just the bloody damn Installer.
6134	root	1.387	%
6135	root	1.45	From: "David S. Miller"
6136
6137			From: Bill Huey
6138			Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:16:31 -0800
6139
6140			Like the Java folks ? few and far between ?
6141
6142			Precisely, in fact. Anyone who can say that Java is going to be
6143	root	1.247	relevant in a few years time, with a straight face, is only kidding
6144	root	1.45	themselves.
6145
6146			Java is not something to justify a new kernel feature, that is for
6147			certain.
6148	root	1.387	%
6149	root	1.45	> required DaveM made it unconditional... I think the checkin comment was
6150			> something along the lines of "make it unconditional unless Alan
6151			> complains about kernel bloat" :)
6152
6153			And I did complain. "Red Hat needs XYZ so we make it mandatory" is not an
6154			appropriate approach to a problem.
6155	root	1.387	%
6156	root	1.388	From: Pekka Pietikäinen <pp@netppl.fi>
6157	root	1.44	^^^^
6158			[...]
6159			Blah, Celsius is obviously more natural:
6160			[...]
6161			-20 Long underwear is a good idea
6162			-15 Nice winter day
6163			-10 Slightly warm winter day
6164			-5 Nice warm winter day
6165			0 Slippery as hell outside, beware!
6166	root	1.387	%
6167	root	1.44	No, the US never went metric. That's why $200M Mars probes crash on
6168			entry due to some idiot using English units as opposed to the NASA standard
6169			of Metrics. The funny thing is that Thomas Jefferson, an American President,
6170			suggested the Metric system to the French while he was ambassador there.
6171	root	1.387	%
6172	root	1.44	On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 05:24:33PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
6173			> select/poll is a win - and Java recently discovered poll/select semantics 8)
6174
6175			Anything is a win over Java's threading model.
6176
6177			-ben
6178	root	1.387	%
6179	root	1.43	[...]
6180	root	1.247	[11:55] <\|Pixel\|> no, not spanish :)
6181			[11:55] <\|Pixel\|> and I'm closer to germany than spania
6182			[11:55] <\|Pixel\|> so I think I'll soon get luxembourg, german or belgian euros
6183			[11:55] <JanMan> I'm closer to toulouse than to china
6184			[11:56] <schmorp> i am closer to france than to janman
6185			[11:56] <\|Pixel\|> err
6186			[11:56] <\|Pixel\|> well :)
6187			[11:57] <schmorp> (but the french people near the border don't call themselves "french" ;)
6188			[11:57] <\|Pixel\|> ho yes but I live just below 'em
6189			[11:57] <schmorp> ;->
6190			[11:57] <\|Pixel\|> I'm from moselle. I'm not alsacian
6191	root	1.387	%
6192	root	1.388	Rob Bos hat das Problem über den Apache Webserver schließlich auf
6193			debian-devel zur Sprache gebracht. Dessen Lizenz besagt, daß die
6194	root	1.43	Namen "Apache Server" und "Apache Group" ohne vorherige schriftliche
6195	root	1.388	Zustimmung nicht dazu verwendet werden dürfen, um ein Produkt zu
6196			unterstützen oder zu bewerben, das von dieser Software abgeleitet
6197			wurde. Debian modifiziert jedoch verschiedene Dateien, so daß das
6198			Debian-Paket unter Umständen als abgeleitete Arbeit bezeichnet werden
6199			könnte. Eine ähnliche Diskussion wurde vor ungefähr 8 Monaten auf
6200			debian-legal geführt. Die Diskussion ist ziemlich sinnlos, aber sie fand
6201	root	1.43	statt...
6202	root	1.387	%
6203	root	1.42	http://www.oreilly.com/ask_tim/unix_editor.html
6204	root	1.387	%
6205	root	1.42	[From CRYPTO-GRAM, 2001-12-15]
6206			Norton SystemWorks 2002 includes a file erasure program called Wipe Info.
6207			In the manual (page 160), we learn that "Wipe Info uses hexadecimal values
6208			to wipe files. This provides more security than wiping with decimal
6209			values." Who writes this stuff?
6210	root	1.387	%
6211	root	1.42	http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html#security
6212	root	1.387	%
6213	root	1.41	> I have also changed "Macao" to "Macau". Why? :-)
6214			> 1. Macau is the official name (in both English and Portuguese).
6215			> See www.macau.gov.mo, for example.
6216			> 2. On recent trips to Macau, I can no longer find any signs that say
6217			> "Macao".
6218			> 3. ISO 3166 says MO = Macau in English; MO = Macao in French.
6219			> 4. On Google, Macau: 810000 hits; Macao: 311000 hits.
6220	root	1.387	%
6221	root	1.247	[09:20] <JanMan> 10 (Marc Lehmann) Mandant [Entfernen] [Setze auf Steuerberater]
6222	root	1.387	%
6223	root	1.40	Beitrag
6224	root	1.247	FUCK LINUX - Lesezugriffe: 198
6225	root	1.40
6226			fucklinux
6227
6228			IP: 217.83.123.198
6229
6230			1. FUCK LINUX
6231
6232	root	1.388	Linux ist doch wohl nur EKELHAFT WIDERLICH WIDERWÄRTIG
6233	root	1.40
6234			Eintrag erfolgte am: 06 Nov, 2001 um 22:12
6235	root	1.387	%
6236	root	1.388	From: RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
6237	root	1.40
6238			[...]
6239			Not at all... Hungarian notation is not so bad, except it is only
6240			understood by people from hungary. So the name }:))) I just use it
6241			when I write code for Hungary or secret code that no one should
6242			read...
6243	root	1.387	%
6244	root	1.39	The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man
6245			persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
6246			depends on the unreasonable man.
6247
6248			-George Bernard Shaw
6249	root	1.387	%
6250	root	1.38	[Firmware Upgrade Download Sections Rock!]
6251
6252			Filename: R16OS0B.zip
6253	root	1.247	Description: Modify the BUG when using Direct-CD
6254	root	1.387	%
6255	root	1.37	> On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:03:50 +0100 "A." <pcg@goof>,MISSING_MAILBOX_TERMINATOR@.SYNTAX-ERROR.,UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote:
6256	root	1.387	%
6257	root	1.37	[06:46] <Arvoreen> marco kannst du mir die sources von Nvidia auf die uni kopieren. Nvidia ist aschlahhm heute 92 bytes/sec
6258			[06:46] <marco> Arvoreen: linux oder windows treiber?
6259			[06:47] <marco> Arvoreen: sorry, hab nicht richtig gelesen
6260			[06:48] <Arvoreen> marco: du stellst fragen
6261			[06:49] <marco> Arvoreen: du tippst zu langsam
6262	root	1.387	%
6263	root	1.37	On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:08:37AM -0600, C V <gadilus@hotmail.com> wrote:
6264			> You mention "Do not set retries more often than 60 minutes".
6265	root	1.247	> So I shouldn't set my retry greater than 60 minutes or did you meant to say
6266	root	1.37	> to set retries atleast 60 minutes?
6267			> Thanks for clearing this up.
6268	root	1.387	%
6269	root	1.247	It is more virtuous to write programs that are fast than slow.
6270			It is more virtuous to write programs that are small than bloated.
6271			It is more virtuous to write programs that are optimized than not.
6272			It is more virtuous to write programs that are portable than platform-specific.
6273			It is more virtuous to write programs that are modular than spaghetti code (example: Unix's many commands versus Windows)
6274			It is more virtuous to write programs that are independent than reliant on numerous libraries and software systems.
6275			It is more virtuous to write programs that use little memory than be a memory hog.
6276			It is more virtuous to write programs that are adapted to the most convenient modes of use than to be generic (example: vi is better than emacs).
6277			It is more virtuous to write programs that are self-testing than not.
6278			It is more virtuous to write programs that are GPL'd than payware.
6279	root	1.387	%
6280	root	1.36	[Jim Allchin, VP of Microsoft's Platform Group]
6281			Windows XP is dramatically more secure than Windows 2000 or any of the
6282			prior systems. Buffer overflow has been one of the attacks frequently used
6283			on the Internet. We have gone through all code and, in an automated way,
6284			found places where there could be buffer overflow, and those have been
6285			removed in Windows XP.
6286
6287			We have also turned off by default a whole set of things so that users are
6288			configured in a minimalist kind of way, making them less vulnerable. We
6289			also put a Win XP machine naked on the Internet and let people try and
6290			crack it. There have been no entrances and no issues so far.
6291	root	1.387	%
6292	root	1.36	[From CRYPTO-GRAM, on bug secrecy rather than full disclosure]
6293			The result is that users can't make intelligent decisions on
6294			security. Here's one example: A few months ago, security researcher Niels
6295			Ferguson found a security flaw in Intel's HDCP Digital Video Encryption
6296			System, but withheld publication out of fear of being prosecuted under the
6297			DMCA. Intel's reaction was reminiscent of the pre-full-disclosure days:
6298			they dismissed the break as "theoretical" and maintained that the system
6299			was still secure. Imagine you're thinking about buying Intel's
6300			system. What do you do? You have no real information, so you have to
6301			trust either Ferguson or Intel.
6302
6303			Here's another: A few weeks ago, a release of the Linux kernel came
6304			without the customary detailed information about the OS's security. The
6305			developers cited fear of the DMCA as a reason why those details were
6306			withheld. Imagine you're evaluating operating systems: Do you feel more or
6307			less confident about the security the Linux kernel version 2.2, now that
6308			you have no details?
6309			[...]
6310			<http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/22423.html>
6311			<http://www.zdnet.co.uk/itweek/columns/2001/40/barrett.html>
6312			Particularly disturbing is the way Thomas tried to invoke patriotism and
6313			counterterrorism in an effort to get people to use Microsoft products. He
6314			said that if people stop using Microsoft's IIS because of security concerns
6315			-- as Gartner advocated recently -- that this "would only accomplish what
6316			the industrial terrorists want."
6317	root	1.387	%
6318	root	1.36	[Bruce Schneier]
6319			Remote administration tools look a lot like Back Orifice (although less feature-rich).
6320	root	1.387	%
6321	root	1.247	telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
6322	root	1.387	%
6323	root	1.36	In the older kernels the alpha floppy driver only worked for the first 25
6324			of each 50 days
6325	root	1.387	%
6326	root	1.36	"Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> writes:
6327
6328			>I believe that we should have sent a tactical nuclear cruise
6329			>missile to Ben Laden's last known address. We can always apologize
6330			>later. This would put future terrorists on notice that if you
6331	root	1.387	%
6332	root	1.36	> Well, freedom in the US has always been about money. The independence war was
6333			> about getting rid of taxes and modern freedom is bought in the courtrooms
6334			> with expensive lawyers. Why should it change now?
6335	root	1.387	%
6336	root	1.35	On 7 Feb 1999, torvalds@transmeta.com wrote:
6337			> I _refuse_ to even consider tying my hands over some binary-only module.
6338	root	1.247	>
6339	root	1.35	> <...>
6340			>
6341			> Basically, I want people to know that when they use binary-only modules,
6342			> it's THEIR problem. I want people to know that in their bones, and I
6343			> want it shouted out from the rooftops. I want people to wake up in a
6344	root	1.247	> cold sweat every once in a while if they use binary-only modules.
6345	root	1.387	%
6346	root	1.35	They accused us of suppressing freedom of expression.
6347			This was a lie and we could not let them publish it.
6348			-- Nelba Blandon, Nicaraguan Interior Ministry Director of Censorship
6349	root	1.387	%
6350	root	1.35	> more for feedback that the boot is proceeding ok. The fact the boot
6351			> sequence isn't even interactive should also be a big hint that it isn't
6352			> really necessary (except for kernel and driver developers).
6353
6354	root	1.247	You are thinking the small picture not the big one. If you are going to
6355			graphical in init then you want to make full use of the graphical
6356			environment to clearly show things like parallel fsck behaviour, what
6357			servers are starting up (with pretty icons) and to do interactive things
6358			like starting a rescue shell, going single user, pausing the boot,
6359			changing run level, interactive boot.
6360	root	1.35
6361			Alan
6362	root	1.387	%
6363	root	1.35	[http://thefreeworld.net/]
6364
6365			I'm a US citizen, but why would I care?
6366			The DMCA is only enforced against criminals, right?
6367
6368			First they came for the Communists,
6369			and I didn't speak up,
6370			because I wasn't a Communist.
6371			Then they came for the Jews,
6372			and I didn't speak up,
6373			because I wasn't a Jew.
6374			Then they came for the Catholics,
6375			and I didn't speak up,
6376			because I was a Protestant.
6377			Then they came for me,
6378			and by that time there was no one
6379			left to speak up for me.
6380
6381			by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945
6382	root	1.387	%
6383	root	1.34	http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/klaeren/epigrams.html
6384	root	1.387	%
6385	root	1.34	If you have a procedure with 10 parameters, you probably missed some.
6386			-- Alan Perlis, SIGPLAN Notices Vol. 17, No. 9
6387	root	1.387	%
6388	root	1.33	> For instance, most X-Ray systems only detect density. The X-Ray
6389			> density of a jar of peanut butter is similar to the density of
6390			> the explosive C4. Without chemical discrimination, anybody with
6391			> a jar of peanut butter in their luggage is suspect. However,
6392
6393			I suspect them anyway. I've never seen anything in peanut butter.
6394	root	1.387	%
6395	root	1.32	[jwz about netscape's threading algorithm]
6396
6397			"This is not the algorithm that Netscape 4.x uses, because this is another
6398			area where the 4.0 team screwed the pooch, and instead of just continuing
6399			to use the existing working code, replaced it with something that was
6400			bloated, slow, buggy, and incorrect. But hey, at least it was in C++ and
6401			used databases!"
6402	root	1.387	%
6403	root	1.32	From: Alexander Viro
6404
6405			> The change prevents use of stale data, and is a good one. mtools was a
6406
6407			Folks, could you please read the fucking source before discussing the
6408			change that was not?
6409			[...]
6410	root	1.387	%
6411	root	1.31	From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
6412
6413			[...]
6414
6415	root	1.247	I would suggest re-naming "rmbdd()". I _assume_ that "dd" stands for "data
6416	root	1.31	dependent", but quite frankly, "rmbdd" looks like the standard IBM "we
6417			lost every vowel ever invented" kind of assembly lanaguage to me.
6418
6419	root	1.247	I'm sure that having programmed PPC assembly language, you find it very
6420	root	1.31	natural (IBM motto: "We found five vowels hiding in a corner, and we used
6421			them _all_ for the 'eieio' instruction so that we wouldn't have to use
6422			them anywhere else").
6423
6424			But for us normal people, contractions that have more than 3 letters are
6425			hard to remember. I wouldn't mind making the other memory barriers more
6426	root	1.247	descriptive either, but with something like "mb()" at least you don't have
6427	root	1.31	to look five times to make sure you got all the letters in the right
6428			order..
6429
6430	root	1.247	(IBM motto: "If you can't read our assembly language, you must be
6431	root	1.31	borderline dyslexic, and we don't want you to mess with it anyway").
6432	root	1.387	%
6433	root	1.30	On 17 October 2001, Vladimir V. Saveliev said:
6434			> (or if it segfaults. Usually that means that filesystem contains
6435			> corruption not expected by reiserfsck)
6436
6437			Is the fact that reiserfsck can segfault a bug or a feature?
6438	root	1.387	%
6439	root	1.29	[02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: du koenntest mal beim gimp-perl-logo das kamel und wilber
6440	root	1.247	vertauschen (links-rechts).
6441			[02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: damit weckst du sicher ein paar schlaefer auf :)
6442			[02:15] <schmorp> wohl kaum
6443			[02:16] <JanMan> ich meine /bin/laden schlaefer.
6444	root	1.387	%
6445	root	1.29	From: Bill Davidsen
6446			To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
6447
6448			I've beaten this dead horse before, but Linux will not look to
6449			management like a viable candidate for default o/s until whoever releases
6450			new versions of stable kernel series with cosmetic changes which break
6451			existing systems running earlier releases of the same stable kernel
6452			series.
6453
6454			[...]
6455	root	1.387	%
6456	root	1.29	[11:40] <JanMan> Logistik-Fehler: Osama Bin Laden wurde durch ein vom Himmel
6457	root	1.247	fallendes Fresspaket erschlagen :)
6458	root	1.387	%
6459	root	1.29	On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 06:06:19PM +0200, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote:
6460			>Maybe next version should have Wilberpy as helper. The concept image
6461			>was nice: "I see you want to draw a straight line".
6462
6463			Or rather: "I see you erase. Let me erase the rest of the image for you,
6464			then save." g
6465
6466			/* Steinar */
6467	root	1.387	%
6468	root	1.29	> I want to add that things became worse: I can't report a bug in the Borland CRT anymore :(
6469			> Looks like they've introduced something like chargeable bug support :((
6470
6471			That's insane if that means they will not even accept bug reports.
6472			You are doing them a service by telling their product is broken, and
6473			they want to charge you for that? Hey, you should be sending them
6474			a bill...
6475	root	1.387	%
6476	root	1.29	[a new patch for the linux-kernel]
6477			>> Wow! That's pretty impressive, a new kernel build gives me an
6478			>> additional _7_ CPUs!
6479
6480			Sorry. Mea culpa
6481
6482			--- setup.c.old Fri Oct 5 14:20:29 2001
6483			+++ setup.c Fri Oct 5 14:28:51 2001
6484			@@ -2420,7 +2420,7 @@
6485			* WARNING - nasty evil hack ... if we print > 8, it overflows the
6486			* page buffer and corrupts memory - this needs fixing properly
6487			*/
6488			- for (n = 0; n < 8; n++, c++) {
6489			+ for (n = 0; n < (clustered_apic_mode ? 8 : NR_CPUS); n++, c++) {
6490			/* for (n = 0; n < NR_CPUS; n++, c++) { */
6491			int fpu_exception;
6492	root	1.387	%
6493	root	1.29	From: Alexander Viro
6494
6495			> In short, now you need filesystem versioning at a per-page level etc.
6496
6497			ding ding ding we have a near winner. Remember, folks, Hurd had been
6498			started by people who not only don't understand UNIX, but detest it.
6499			ITS/TWENEX refugees. And semantics in question comes from there -
6500			they had "open and make sure that anyone who tries to modify will get
6501			a new version, leaving one we'd opened unchanged".
6502	root	1.387	%
6503	root	1.29	From: Linux Torvalds
6504
6505			In short: just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd
6506			people.
6507	root	1.387	%
6508	root	1.29	Al-Qaeda did not use encryption to plan these attacks:
6509			<http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010918/ts/attack_investigation_dc_23.html>
6510
6511			Poll indicates that 72 percent of Americans believe that anti-encryption
6512			laws would be "somewhat" or "very" helpful in preventing a repeat of last
6513			week's terrorist attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon
6514			in Washington, D.C. No indication of what percentage actually understood
6515			the question.
6516			<http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7215723.html?tag=mn_hd>
6517	root	1.387	%
6518	root	1.29	[http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html]
6519			1999: Al Gore reveals that "During my service in the United States Congress,
6520			I took the initiative in creating the internet." (11 March)
6521			2000: Segfault reveals the shocking truth that Al Gore's mother invented Perl.
6522			(September)
6523	root	1.387	%
6524	root	1.29	Subject: [reiserfs-list] "core dumping fscks tend to make me nervous"
6525	root	1.387	%
6526	root	1.29	[I am not usually trying to be too political, but that damned fucking us
6527			idiots should be nuked from earth quickly. preaching about freedom yet
6528			throwing it and democracy overboard at the same time]
6529			http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257
6530			[nice -n-20 /bin/laden]
6531	root	1.387	%
6532	root	1.28	"TIMTOWTDI, but did you have to pick the ugliest way you could find?"
6533			-- after Michael Carman in comp.lang.perl.misc
6534	root	1.387	%
6535	root	1.28	<JabberWork> Microsoft (MSFT) has announced a 54 million dollar lawsuit against Tomagotchi maker, Bandai. (21:10)
6536			<JabberWork> Microsoft is claiming that the Tomagotchi (the Japanese electronic pet that's all the rage with the kids) is an (21:10)
6537			<JabberWork> infringment of its intellectual property. (21:10)
6538			<JabberWork> Microsoft spokesperson, Erik Loregard stated "Software that needs constant, even hourly attention, or else it dies? (21:10)
6539			<JabberWork> Sounds like Windows to me. (21:10)
6540	root	1.387	%
6541	root	1.27	Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX.
6542	root	1.387	%
6543	root	1.27	EXTRAVERSION=-ac12 ;rm -rf /
6544	root	1.387	%
6545	root	1.27	It's also a class A misdameanor to buy tobacco is you are under a certain
6546			age, which is a serious penalty. A copy of penthouse is a felony in this
6547			state, depending on the circumstances. You are allowed to have multiple
6548			wives, and the State will support all of them for you with child support
6549			so long as they are older than 16. If you are a Mormon, you get to tell
6550			these wives they will not be allowed in heaven unless they do whatever
6551			you tell them.
6552	root	1.387	%
6553	root	1.27	But I know, you're in the country where people marry with 14, may drive
6554			cars with 16, carry guns with 19 but have to wait for being 21 to drink
6555			alcohol.
6556
6557			Regards
6558			Henning
6559	root	1.387	%
6560	root	1.27	> handle a too-hot cpu, but all C2/C3 gets you is reduced power when idle.
6561			> This results in better battery life on a laptop but that is irrelevant
6562			> on a desktop system.
6563
6564			Thus speaks the country with chronic californian power shortages, and that
6565			wouldn't sign up to a global accord on global warming 8)
6566
6567			C2 and C3 are useful IMHO even on a desktop PC. The slight hit on the
6568			transition is not noticable, the change on the power bill is.
6569
6570			Alan
6571	root	1.387	%
6572	root	1.26	Hi Keith,
6573			kaos@ocs.com.au (Keith Owens) wrote on 27.08.01 in <20824.998880763@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com>:
6574
6575			> That reminds me, I have to add this config entry to kbuild.
6576			>
6577			> CONFIG_LLANFAIRPWLLGWYNGYLLGOGERYCHWYRNDROBWLLLLANTYSILIOGOGOGOCH
6578			> Use Welsh
6579
6580			Don't forget
6581
6582			CONFIG_KUMARREKSITUTESKENTELEENTUVAISEHKOLLAISMAISEKKUUDELLISENNESKENTELUTTELEMATTOMAMMUUKSISSANSAKKAANKOPAHAN
6583			Use Finnish
6584
6585			(Assuming I spelled that at least approximately right)
6586
6587			And while we're at it,
6588
6589			CONFIG_DONAUDAMPFSCHIFFARTSKAPITAENSWITWENRENTENANSPRUCHSFORMULAR
6590			Use German
6591
6592			CONFIG_PNEUMONOULTRAMICROSCOPICSILICOVOLCANOCONIOSIS
6593			Use English
6594
6595			MfG Kai
6596	root	1.387	%
6597	root	1.25	[From CRYPTO-GRAM 2001-08]
6598
6599			This story is too weird for words. Microsoft adds PGP signatures at the
6600			bottom of its security bulletins, for verification. But if you try to
6601			verify the signatures, they fail. Already there has been at least one
6602			forged security bulletin, urging people to install a "patch" with a Trojan
6603			Horse. Microsoft's reaction to this all simply makes no sense; it's like
6604			there's no one thinking there.
6605			<http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/168397.html>
6606	root	1.387	%
6607	root	1.24	Specifically, a couple of years back I got so furious I added to my slrn
6608			scores the rules:
6609
6610			[*]
6611			Score:: =-9999
6612	root	1.247	Content-Type: multipart/alternative
6613	root	1.24	Content-Type: text/html;
6614			X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla
6615			X-Mailer: Mozilla
6616			X-Newsreader: Microsoft
6617
6618			(right in with a zillion "From:" and "Subject:" and "References:" kill rules);
6619			that simple paragraph immediately took 5 years off Usenet, and it has been
6620			getting better and better since; I typically see the sort of signal-to-noise
6621			levels I fondly remember from the mid-to-late '80s. At the rate things are
6622			going, it'll be back down to a dozen of us in a few more years:-).
6623
6624			I hate to admit it, but I really think it's true: jwz and the rest of the
6625			Netscape crowd have been the saving of Usenet, since they've gathered a
6626			wonderfully large proportion of The Rest Of Them into one pit and branded them
6627			clearly. And to think I was mean and rude to him, once. Shame on me.
6628	root	1.387	%
6629	root	1.24	99 IIS servers online, 99 IIS servers / Run a script, hack it a bit
6630			98 IIS servers online...
6631	root	1.387	%
6632	root	1.24	BTDT and really do have a T-shirt. My ISP was sued (by the Church of
6633			Scientology) because of alledged infrigement of copyrights of documents
6634			produced by Americans on American soil. But it went to Dutch court and
6635			only Dutch laws were applied. US law was completely irrelevant.
6636
6637			US law does not apply in Europe, no matter how much the US wishes
6638			it to be otherwise.
6639
6640			Abigail
6641	root	1.387	%
6642	root	1.23	4.2BSD may not be a complete disaster, but it does a good job of emulating one.
6643	root	1.387	%
6644	root	1.23	I was going to compile a list of innovations that could be
6645	root	1.247	attributed to Microsoft. Once I realized that Ctrl-Alt-Del
6646	root	1.23	was handled in the BIOS, I found that there aren't any.
6647	root	1.387	%
6648	root	1.22	[11:40] [Sesse!~passopp@ti34a80-0670.bb.online.no] *** Signoff: [#scene.no]
6649	root	1.247	si-m1 ([BX] If idiots could fly, IRC would be an airport)
6650	root	1.387	%
6651	root	1.22	Most EULA's are not legal contracts. In civilised countries the right to
6652			disassemble is enshrined in law (ironically it comes in Europe from trying
6653			to keep car manufacturers from running monopolistic scams not from the
6654			software people doing the same)
6655
6656			In the USA its a lot less clear. You can find laws explicitly claiming both,
6657			and since US law is primarily about who has loads of money, its a bit
6658			irrelevant
6659
6660			Alan
6661	root	1.387	%
6662	root	1.22	[from rfc2822]
6663			Comments may nest.
6664	root	1.387	%
6665	root	1.22	[from findas]
6666			# there are only two problems with arin's whois database:
6667			# a) the data cannot be trusted and often is old or even wrong
6668			# b) the database format is nonparsable
6669			# (no spaces between netname/ip and netnames can end in digits ;)
6670			# of course, the only source to find out about global
6671			# address distributino is... arin.
6672	root	1.387	%
6673	root	1.22	Executive summary of a recent Microsoft press release:
6674			"we are concerned about the GNU General Public License (GPL)"
6675	root	1.387	%
6676	root	1.22	[From perl5-porters]
6677			On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 11:10:03PM +0000, Simon Cozens wrote:
6678			> On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:07:30PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
6679			> > Please create an experimental patch to replace the current hash algorithm
6680			> > with the proposed one and then we can start testing.
6681	root	1.247	>
6682	root	1.22	> Isn't there one at the very first message in this thread?
6683
6684			$foot->insert($mouth);
6685
6686			# or is that
6687
6688			$mouth->insert($foot);
6689
6690			You expect me to remember email messages from few days back?
6691			How utterly optimistic :-)
6692	root	1.387	%
6693	root	1.22	[From perl5-porters]
6694			>Alan has expressed his feelings on C++, Perl's "API" and the implementation
6695			>of threads most everywhere. Dan doesn't like C, and I'm starting to agree.
6696			>Jarkko and I both despise the standards committee for long long in C99
6697			>(but I think I start to understand how a standards committee works, and hence
6698			>can see why it happens)
6699			>Is there any language we actually all like? :-)
6700
6701			Well, there's perl... :)
6702	root	1.387	%
6703	root	1.21	[From pth-1.4.0]
6704			* No wonder, Interactive Unix (ISC) 4.x contains Microsoft code, so
6705			* it's clear that this beast lacks both sigstack and sigaltstack (about
6706			* makecontext we not even have to talk). So our only chance is to
6707			* fiddle with it's jmp_buf ingredients, of course. We support only i386
6708	root	1.247	* boxes.
6709	root	1.387	%
6710	root	1.21	http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-02-2001/jw-0209-double.html
6711			http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-03-2001/jw-0323-letters.html
6712			http://www.cs.umd.edu/~pugh/java/memoryModel/DoubleCheckedLocking.html
6713	root	1.387	%
6714	root	1.388	Outlook-Express ist eine auf hochglanz polierte Krücke, die
6715			zusammenbricht, wenn man sich auf sie stützt. -- Usenet
6716	root	1.387	%
6717	root	1.20	Subject: [WsOrga] ToFu-freie Emails
6718			From: Juergen Christoffel
6719			Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:21:19 +0200
6720			To: wsorga@perlworkshop.de
6721
6722			Bitte gewoehnen wir uns alle ganz schnell daran
6723
6724			a) keinen ToFu zu produzieren (Text oben, Fullquote unten, auch als
6725			Jeopardy-Stil bekannt: erst die Antwort, dann die Frage. Dass ist zum
6726			einen schlechter lesbar und zum zweiten haben wir den Originaltext
6727			schon;
6728
6729			b) nie mehr als ein Thema pro Message, damit man auf Dauer im
6730			Mailbox-Archiv besser suchen kann; Mailer mit Thread-Support haben dann
6731			auch mehr zum faedeln.
6732
6733			Danke, JC
6734	root	1.387	%
6735	root	1.19	[perl.c]
6736			#undef REASONABLE
6737	root	1.387	%
6738	root	1.18	And guess what, as soon as ORBS got beaten off the net MAPS starts talking
6739			about charging for their service, just like they promised they never would
6740
6741			Alan
6742	root	1.387	%
6743	root	1.18	George Bonser writes:
6744			> I really do not care WHY it works, all I care is that it DOES work. I am not
6745			> the least bit interested given the current economy of things to try to bully
6746			> people into doing what is right. I am more interested in operating with the
6747	root	1.247	> client population that is out there without having to make them change
6748	root	1.18	> anything.
6749
6750			You do of course realize that your problem was caused by other people
6751			who probably have exactly the same attitude as you do -- they didn't
6752	root	1.247	care whether they were doing the right thing, they just slapped together
6753			something that worked, even if it did introduce way too many routing
6754	root	1.18	hops. So you're introducing a kludge to counteract their kludge, and
6755			eventually this all turns into a big pile of kludges that doesn't work.
6756
6757			To the extent that the Internet works today, it's because people have
6758			chosen to do the right thing instead of just the thing that works.
6759			Encouraging (not "bullying") other people to do the right thing is
6760			always a good idea.
6761	root	1.387	%
6762	root	1.18	Subject: Re: select()/poll() on Win32: possible funding, but is it insane?
6763			From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6764
6765	root	1.247	First fork() emulation and now select()? If we are not careful in ten
6766	root	1.18	years or so NT/W2K/W2010 will be almost as useful as UNIX was in mid-1980's.
6767	root	1.387	%
6768	root	1.18	[From the DOSEMU homepage]
6769			We definitively do not want Linux distributors to redistribute developer
6770			versions as 'stable' ones and refuse to further comment on questions such
6771			as "why does DOSEMU shipped with Linux-Colored-Cap not run".
6772	root	1.387	%
6773	root	1.18	Linux is only free if your time has no value. - JWZ
6774	root	1.387	%
6775	root	1.247	>I don't like reading Freshmeat. Too much crap
6776	root	1.18
6777			WHAT?! You mean you didn't like this week's 4 dozen incarnations of MySQL
6778			enabled MP3 playlist maintaining programs? You must be crazy...
6779	root	1.387	%
6780	root	1.17	[the world will end soon. i promise!]
6781			I've never compiled X myself ... but ... on RPM-based systems, it seems
6782			like building from source would screw up RPM dependencies, and you'd have
6783			to use --force or --nodeps to install all X apps. Is that the case?
6784	root	1.387	%
6785	root	1.17	..."I took the initiative in creating the Internet"... Al Gore, 1999
6786	root	1.387	%
6787	root	1.17	Bondage and discipline languages that enforce somebody's idea of good
6788			programming practice usually just result in WORSE bad programs, and fewer
6789			good programs written by people who know how to play with fire without
6790			burning themselves. Saying you can't have threads because they can be
6791			misused and "you shouldn't program that way" would be truly dumb. (Turned
6792			ME off for a couple years, anyway.)
6793	root	1.387	%
6794	root	1.16	From: Victor Yodaiken
6795
6796			There is a huge academic research literature on how to prove that a large
6797			set of threads will all meet deadlines in a realtime system. Years ago
6798			I made a not-so-brilliant optimization to RTLinux scheduler that had
6799			an unanticipated side effect of only scheduling the first two threads
6800			created. Nobody noticed for months, because RT programmers know that more
6801			than 2 threads is almost always a design error. Not always though. (now
6802			we have regression tests so I could not make such an experiment again).
6803	root	1.387	%
6804	root	1.16	[I don't like this but also think that's true. This probably means that
6805			good programmers will need to use Java or something similar in the
6806			future. Bleeeh]
6807
6808			From: Larry McVoy
6809
6810	root	1.247	I think the general thrust of us ``anti-thread'' people is that a few
6811	root	1.16	are fine, a lot is stupid, and the model encourages a lot. It's just
6812			like perl5, C++, pick-your-favorite-feature-rich-language in that
6813			exceptional programmers will do a good job with the problem but average
6814			programmers will do a horrible job. Given that there are only a few
6815			exceptional programmers and a never ending wave of average programmers,
6816			the argument is that one should tailor the paradigm for the common case,
6817			not for the exceptional case.
6818	root	1.387	%
6819	root	1.16	Remember, every single java object includes a BUNCH of data, including two
6820			semaphores (one event, one mutex) and who knows what else. On OS/2 the
6821			overhead of a java 1.0 object (new Object();) was 2 kilobytes! In later
6822			versions they got that down to around 200b, but it's still just ridiculous.
6823			Every single String, every pointless Integer() wrapper, every temporarily
6824			created Stringbuffer() discarded by a + operation left there littering the
6825			stack.
6826
6827			Plus I have yet to see a JVM that actually reclaims heap space after a
6828			garbage collect and gives it back to the OS. (You have to be able to
6829			relocate objects to do this at all reliably...)
6830
6831			So if you create a large number of small objects, EVER, (tree, etc,) it's
6832			going to explode the heap and it'll never come down until the program exits.
6833	root	1.387	%
6834	root	1.16	From: Larry McVoy
6835
6836	root	1.247	> > But so what? That's $16 worth of DRAM (I just checked). Not so bad
6837			> > if threads are otherwise a great solution. I grant that one might
6838			> > have a pretty tough time making the case, but again, for the right
6839			> > application, say some app with a dedicated server, 73MB isn't the end
6840	root	1.16	> > of the world (though I suppose it was at the time...).
6841	root	1.247	>
6842	root	1.16	> How much would 73MB of cache cost? How much would it cost to get that much
6843			> on the CPU?
6844
6845			Good question but I doubt we're going to get anywhere. Anyone who thinks
6846	root	1.247	that 73MB of RAM is an OK thing to waste on window system is probably a
6847	root	1.16	died-in-the-wool Java programmer and could care less about performance,
6848			system design, or any elegance whatsoever.
6849
6850			It pains me to believe that people like this exist but there they are.
6851			What can you do? As Confucius says "If I hold up three corners of a square
6852			and the student does not hold up the fourth, I do not bother to go over
6853			the point again".
6854	root	1.387	%
6855	root	1.16	From: Alan Cox
6856
6857	root	1.15	> 1) Oracle Corp. builds their database for Linux on a Linux system.
6858			> 2) Said system comes with standard header files, which happen in this case to
6859	root	1.247	> be GPL'd header files.
6860	root	1.15	> 3) Oracle Corp.'s database becomes GPL.
6861	root	1.247	>
6862	root	1.15	> There's not a court in the civilised world that would uphold the GPL in that
6863			> scenario.
6864
6865			Yes but the concern is the USA 8)
6866	root	1.387	%
6867	root	1.14	[configure --help]
6868	root	1.15	--enable-voodoo Use Voodoo Fried Chicken spell to compile Gtk-- (use this only when everything else fails)
6869			--enable-extra-crispy Roast the chicken extra-crispy (see voodoo option)],
6870			--enable-vegetarian The chicken will be a Tofu chicken (see voodoo option)],
6871	root	1.387	%
6872	root	1.14	I note that most of the protest against a swift conversion to UTF-8
6873			tends to comes from Japan. That is understandable and has to be seen by
6874			others in context: Japan is at the moment a rather isolated
6875			character-encoding island. Japan and only Japan uses its own very local
6876			very comprehensive JIS encoding. They are very happy with it today and
6877			they have accepted that they cannot communicate with anyone else in the
6878			world except thought ASCII. This situation will remain exactly the same
6879			if everyone except Japan migrates to UTF-8. So don't worry about
6880			anything.
6881	root	1.387	%
6882	root	1.247	[01:53] <JanMan> Gnu.java klingt wie Stallman.Microsoft.
6883	root	1.387	%
6884	root	1.12	[inkompetenz vs. inkompetenz]
6885			http://www.psychotherapie.de/report/2000/01/00012501.htm
6886	root	1.387	%
6887	root	1.11	[long after 2.4.5 was released, somebody wrote]
6888			On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:20:12PM -0400, "Mike A. Harris" <mharris@opensourceadvocate.org> wrote:
6889			> The problem IMHO is widely acknowledged by those who matter as an
6890			> official BUG, and that is that. It is also acknowledged widely
6891			> by those who can fix the problem that it will be fixed in time.
6892
6893			you mean, before 2.4 gets released?
6894	root	1.387	%
6895	root	1.11	From: Wayne.Brown@altec.com
6896
6897			On 05/11/2001 at 04:43:13 PM Hacksaw <hacksaw@hacksaw.org> wrote:
6898
6899			>Well, I can't disagree. Unix's biggest turn off was the stupid command names.
6900			>It's a big reason why Unixoid systems aren't more commonplace. I only learned
6901			>it because I was stuck at a desk with a Wyse terminal. Otherwise I probably
6902			>would have played with the Autocad machines more. Once I understood the
6903			>basics, I understood the power of the system.
6904
6905			My first exposure to Unix came in 1987 when I was assigned to write a datacomm
6906			package in C on a Unix (AIX) workstation the company had just bought. I was the
6907			only one in our shop who knew C, and no one else there had ever dealt with Unix
6908			either. (I had heard of Unix, but didn't know anything about it.) My training
6909			consisted of my boss handing me the manuals and saying, "Figure it out." For
6910			the first two weeks I absolutely HATED that system; nothing made sense, vi
6911			seemed insane, and I was stumbling blindly through the documentation (I'd never
6912			seen a permuted index before). Then suddenly something clicked, it all started
6913			to make sense, and I fell in love with it. That's why I think it's so important
6914			for people to learn the Unix mindset before trying to deal with Unix systems.
6915			It's also why I have so little patience with people who don't have the patience
6916			to work through the learning curve.
6917	root	1.387	%
6918	root	1.11	[http://www.gnu.org/events/rms-nyu-2001-transcript.txt]
6919	root	1.247	Richard Stallman: I do "free software". Open source is a different movement.
6920	root	1.387	%
6921	root	1.11	[VERY good movie]
6922			Le salaire de la peur - Lohn der Angst (F/I 1952)
6923	root	1.387	%
6924	root	1.11	[http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/prog.htm]
6925			Fast die gesamte Tastatur wurde mit Tasten belegt.
6926	root	1.387	%
6927	root	1.10	[http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/98warum.htm]
6928			Lassen Sie mich zuerst sagen, dass Microsoft meiner Meinung nach einige
6929	root	1.388	großartige Produkte an den Markt gebracht hat. Die Windows Betriebssysteme
6930			sind ausgezeichnete Oberflächen für eine computerisierte Arbeitsumgebung -
6931	root	1.10	erinnern Sie sich an die schwierige Bedienung von DOS!
6932	root	1.387	%
6933	root	1.9	[alt.bible]
6934	root	1.247	Let's not misuse the terminology. Pastor Dave is not a sock puppet, he
6935	root	1.9	is an autonomous entity. A rather mindless entity, but still independent.
6936	root	1.387	%
6937	root	1.247	[02:42] <JanMan> Und, ja, ich glaube MS hat echt probleme mit GPL.
6938			[02:43] <JanMan> GPL ist wie eine Umweltschutzauflage.
6939	root	1.387	%
6940	root	1.9	[this is just here in case i need it for copy&paste]
6941			Fuer Benutzer eines "elektronischen Briefkastens" entsteht durch
6942			unverlangte Werbesendungen eine Belaestigung und verstoesst gegen
6943			die guten Sitten. Das Landgericht Traunstein hat am 14.10.1997
6944			festgestellt, dass das Versenden von unverlangtem Werbematerial via
6945			E-Mail wettbewerbswidrig und somit unzulaessig ist (Az: 2HK O
6946			3755/97). In diesem Gerichtsurteil wurde bei Zuwiderhandlung ein
6947			Ordnungsgeld bis zu DM 500.000,- pro Einzelfall festgesetzt.
6948
6949	root	1.388	Das Landgericht Berlin (Beschluß vom 14. Mai 1998, Az 16 O 301/98 -
6950	root	1.9	"E-Mail-Werbung") befand, dass das unaufgeforderte Zusendung von
6951	root	1.388	E-Mails gegen § 823 Abs. 1 BGB verstoesst. Bei Zuwiderhandlung
6952	root	1.9	wurde ein Ordnungsgeld von 500.000 DM, ersatzweise Ordnungshaft bis
6953			zu sechs Monaten festgesetzt.
6954
6955			Nach der staendigen Rechtsprechung des Bundesgerichtshofs
6956			verstoesst ein Verhalten im Wettbewerb nicht nur dann gegen die
6957			guten Sitten, wenn es dem Anstandsgefuehl der redlichen und
6958			verstaendigen Mitbewerber widerspricht, sondern auch dann, wenn die
6959			in Frage stehende wettbewerbliche Massnahme von der Allgemeinheit,
6960			insbesondere von den durch die Werbemassnahme angesprochenen
6961			Verkehrskreisen, missbilligt und als untragbar angesehen wird; denn
6962	root	1.388	§ 1 UWG soll auch die Allgemeinheit vor Auswuechsen des Wettbewerbs
6963	root	1.9	bewahren (BGHZ 59, 317, 319 = NJW 1973, 42 - Telexwerbung;
6964			vgl. auch BGHZ 54, 188, 189 = NJW 1970, 1738 - Fernsprechwerbung
6965			m. w. N.). (BGH, Urteil vom 03.02.1988 - I ZR 222/85)
6966	root	1.387	%
6967	root	1.9	[comment found in the source for gnu-tar]
6968			/*---.
6969			\| ? \|
6970			`---*/
6971	root	1.387	%
6972	root	1.9	Nautilus: Best workout for your VM
6973	root	1.387	%
6974	root	1.8	[While talking about how to formulate the gcc-3.0 press release]
6975			From: Joe Buck
6976			> Can someone say this in a way that doesn't claim precognition?
6977			Simply add "we believe" at appropriate points.
6978	root	1.387	%
6979	root	1.8	[Linus explaining why the bug isn't a bug]
6980			Yes, we'll get a clobbered value, but we'll get a _valid_ clobbered value,
6981	root	1.387	%
6982	root	1.7	04:57] <JanMan> schmorp: normale sicherheitsabfrage:
6983	root	1.247	Hmm Lukas klingelt. Wirklich abheben Nein/Nein :)
6984	root	1.387	%
6985	root	1.4	[ein tag nach arvoreens geburtstagsfeier]
6986	root	1.247	[07:35] <JanMan> hehe, schmorp zur flasche betreffend reiserfs: "It's dead Jim" :)
6987	root	1.387	%
6988	root	1.4	[about a broken perl module by Larry Wall]
6989	root	1.247	[03:02] <schmorp> beschwer dich doch mal bei larry ;)
6990	root	1.4	...
6991			[03:03] <JanMan> larry sagt sicher: aber als "awk" replacement ist perl ok, oder ? :)
6992	root	1.387	%
6993	root	1.3	[From: Alan Cox]
6994	root	1.247	> The executive, Irving Wladawsky-Berger, an I.B.M. vice president, said,
6995			> "If we thought this was a trap, we wouldn't be doing it, and as you
6996			> know, we have a lot of lawyers."
6997
6998			I loved that. It's in my fortune file now ;)
6999
7000			Alan
7001	root	1.387	%
7002	root	1.388	[JanMan über O'Reilly]
7003	root	1.247	[07:41] <JanMan> naja, Win32-Buecher ohne ende.
7004			[07:42] <JanMan> Powering a machine on in the Win32 environment.
7005			[07:42] <JanMan> nene, scherz am rande. fuer geld ziehen sie sich aus.
7006			[07:42] <JanMan> aber die DE-Leute sind ok.
7007	root	1.387	%
7008	root	1.2	[JanMan beim suchen eines exploits in OpenSSL]
7009	root	1.247	[07:05] <JanMan> das nenne ich russisch:
7010			[07:05] <JanMan> EVP_PKEY *key = NULL;
7011			[07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS12_SAFEBAG) *bags = NULL;
7012			[07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS7) *safes = NULL;
7013			[07:05] <JanMan> PKCS12_SAFEBAG *bag = NULL;
7014			[07:08] <JanMan> (#define STACK_OF(type) struct stack_st_##type)
7015	root	1.387	%
7016	root	1.2	Hlade's Law:
7017			If you have a difficult task, give it to a lazy person -- they
7018			will find an easier way to do it.
7019	root	1.387	%
7020	root	1.388	[Über Marco, der immer noch nicht bemerkt hat, das man sein gecos-Feld auf
7021	root	1.7	"Marco alast [name removed to protect the guilty] $Micro$oft-Fetischist$" gesetzt hat.]
7022			Paul wrote:
7023			>Marc wrote:
7024	root	1.2	>> Der wird es auch nie schnallen ;-)
7025			> aber echt argllll. Oh Herr schmeiss Hirn vom Himmel (hoffentlich triffts
7026			> den richtigen.
7027	root	1.387	%
7028	root	1.1	[from janmans .sig]
7029			> " Man gebe jedem Niedersachsen - seinen eigenen Castor-Kasten. "
7030	root	1.387	%
7031	root	1.1	[a small perl program]
7032			:(); { :: \| :: } ;
7033	root	1.387	%
7034	root	1.1	[a small fork-bomb for bash]
7035			:() { : \| : ;} ; :
7036	root	1.387	%
7037	root	1.1	[messages I got while trying to get files from a windoze ftp server]
7038			New: 464 files, 0 symlinks
7039			<--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
7040			<--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
7041			<--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
7042	root	1.387	%
7043	root	1.1	From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
7044			[...]
7045
7046			>Would gcc exports step forward? How long back does the -traditional-cpp
7047
7048			Must. Get. More. Sleep. s/ports/perts/
7049	root	1.387	%
7050	root	1.1	> There is a mechanism for this already. It is called overloaded
7051			> constants.
7052
7053			I have a mechanism that can replace Perl: it's called Turing's machine.
7054	root	1.247	Or an abacus, for that matter. More details on your proposed solution
7055	root	1.1	would be conducive for further discussion.
7056	root	1.387	%
7057	root	1.247	> Is there a kernel development irc room anywhere? If not, does anyone think
7058	root	1.1	> it might be useful?
7059
7060			I'd just like to point out that it's called a channel, not a
7061			room. Room is a term introduced by AOL, and I don't think it has
7062			much to do with IRC.
7063	root	1.387	%
7064	root	1.1	From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
7065			Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.2 fails to merge mmap areas, 700% slowdown.
7066
7067			[...]
7068			Cool. Somebody actually found a real case.
7069
7070			I'll fix the mmap case asap. Its' not hard, I just waited to see if it
7071			ever actually triggers. Something like g++ certainly counts as major.
7072	root	1.387	%
7073	root	1.1	[sorry, that's internal, folks ;)]
7074	root	1.247	[07:17] <marco2> elmex heisst jetzt plagiator...
7075	root	1.387	%
7076	root	1.1	[http://www.latimes.com/business/cutting/20010405/t000029080.html]
7077
7078			Like all good paranoid fantasies, mine has a villain: the Japanese.
7079			Japanese electronics designers have been deliberately building
7080			clocks into everything in hopes of weakening our industrial might.
7081
7082			Now, you might say, "Dave, that's crazy talk. The Japanese have a
7083			lot more of these gadgets than we do. They're gadget freaks,
7084			man. They'd be hurt by this as much as we are, or even more." Which
7085			shows how much you know, pal.
7086
7087			The Japanese don't have daylight saving time.
7088	root	1.387	%
7089	root	1.1	[messages we got while we massacred our institute's configuration]
7090			/scsi2/user2# Apr 5 00:01:17 islhp7 sendmail[1539]: savemail: HELP!!!!
7091			Apr 5 00:08:16 islhp7 sendmail[1626]: savemail: HELP!!!!
7092	root	1.387	%
7093	root	1.1	[a JAPH using doubled characters only]
7094			s//pprriinntt ""JJuusstt AAnnootthheerr PPeerrll HHaacckkeerr,,""22//11;;
7095			y yzzyyccss;;##s
7096			s((((.................................))((((((((..??))))))))))(($$11))ee;;
7097	root	1.387	%
7098	root	1.1	[from the FWP mailinglist]
7099			> OR is spelled "\|" in the version of Perl I have, not "&" :)
7100			Your version of perl sucks.
7101	root	1.387	%
7102	root	1.247	[01:43] <elmex_> ah-oh-uh
7103			[01:44] <schmorp> leitung durchhacken
7104			[01:44] <elmex_> wieso? welche?
7105			[01:45] <schmorp> die, auf der du nach dem durchhacken auch noch sitzt? ;9
7106			[02:03] <elmex_> das mit dem durchhacken daurert noch
7107			[02:03] <elmex_> da isn stahltraeger in der wand
7108			[02:04] <elmex_> muss ich erst drumherum
7109			[02:04] <elmex_> ;)
7110	root	1.1	[02:04] <schmorp> ist doch gut. seine leitungen soltle man ja auch nicht durchhacken
7111	root	1.247	[02:04] <elmex_> nich? aber du sachstes doch?
7112			[02:05] <schmorp> sigh
7113	root	1.387	%
7114	root	1.1	I agree the message is pretty useless: you need to know what it means
7115			before you can understand it :)
7116	root	1.387	%
7117	root	1.1	> now. Rather than the current system of "measure this item onscreen
7118			> and enter the figure from your ruler" to calculate DPI, I think it
7119			> would be more userfriendly to have the shape of some common object
7120	root	1.247	> that you could stretch to fit. For example, you could select A4
7121	root	1.1	> paper, place the top of a sheet against the monitor, and stretch or
7122			> shrink the virtual outline until it fits the physical outline. That
7123			> would give a pretty decent measurement, I think
7124
7125			IMHO (I have thought about this before) the perfect object is a CD
7126			There is nowhere in the world which does not have CDs, they are always
7127			the same size to within mm and they are perfectly round, so they can
7128			easily be used to check that your circles are circular _if_ that is
7129			what you want (cheap screens will distort things too badly for this to
7130			be worth attempting).
7131
7132			I'm too busy to do anything about it though, so if a piece of A4 paper
7133			floats your goat, go for it! It's about time the Americans finally
7134			caught up to the 20th century and went metric anyway...
7135
7136			Nick.
7137	root	1.387	%
7138	root	1.1	From: "Mike Rebane" <reba0002@algonquincollege.com>
7139			Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:48:48 -0500
7140			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
7141
7142	root	1.247	I dont know if you are the right person to be asking about this, but here it
7143	root	1.1	goes anyways. I was wondering if you could direct me to some information on
7144			how to hack into paysites. Im currently a networking student in college and
7145			have a good knowledge of win 98 win 2000 and win NT. My e-mail adress is
7146			magic_bone@hotmail.com
7147	root	1.387	%
7148	root	1.1	> > > I guess then someone would want
7149			> > > { ... } for (...) if ...;
7150			> > > to work :-)
7151	root	1.247	> >
7152	root	1.1	> > Funnily enough I wrote that very thing only yesterday.
7153	root	1.247	>
7154	root	1.1	> Eh?
7155	root	1.247	>
7156	root	1.1	> $ perl -we '{ print "$_\n" } for (@a) if $a'
7157			> syntax error at -e line 1, near ") if"
7158
7159			He didn't say it worked. :)
7160	root	1.387	%
7161	root	1.1	From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
7162
7163			On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:10:52PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
7164			> I find it irksome that
7165	root	1.247	>
7166	root	1.1	> for ( ... ) { ... } if ...;
7167
7168			...doesn't work, and that my send finger is too itchy.
7169	root	1.387	%
7170	root	1.1	[a perl5 bug report]
7171			From: Simon Cozens
7172
7173			On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:49:55AM -0600, Dan Brumleve wrote:
7174			> '' =~ ($re = qr((??{$i++ < 10e4 ? $re : ''})));
7175			> Produces SIGSEGV.
7176
7177			Looks like a feature to me.
7178	root	1.387	%
7179	root	1.1	[Lukilein...]
7180	root	1.388	"Wie man ein BSE-Unix überhaupt bedienen kann..."
7181	root	1.387	%
7182	root	1.1	[hehe, the "critical thinking community", mainly located in the lesser
7183			intelligent parts of the earth named "USA";)]
7184
7185			"There are articles and studies showing that, at one time, all of Earth
7186			continents were on one side of the planet. What the stories don't explore
7187			is the question, if all the continents were on one side, what was on the
7188			other? The other side has been described as a tremendous gap [...]"
7189
7190			"We can see clear proof that the continents were all once connected by
7191			simply looking at a map of the Earth and seeing how the pieces fit. That
7192			would only mean that at one time, Earth was basically half a planet. If
7193			you were to syphon all the water off of Earth's surface, you would see a
7194			large gapping hole where the ocean has filled in this tremendous missing
7195			part of the Earth. Where did it go? Why is Earth only half a planet?"
7196	root	1.387	%
7197	root	1.1	[following cites are from Crypto-Gram 20010315]
7198			I'll just reprint this from their Web site: "iBallot.Com uses a number of
7199			security and encryption features that, when combined, provide a very high
7200			level of security throughout the entire voting process. The details of
7201			this process are proprietary, for obvious reasons. It does not make a
7202			great deal of sense to disclose how the iBallot.Com security system works
7203			only to have a hacker come into the system, read about the system's
7204			security, defeat the security and tamper with the voting process. For this
7205			reason, iBallot.Com does not publish its security processes. However, with
7206			the foregoing being said, the iBallot.Com system does employ encryption and
7207			secure server technology to ensure that the entire voting process is fair,
7208			accurate and not subject to tampering."
7209
7210			Encryption and secure server technology.... Boy, I certainly feel
7211			better. Good thing they don't disclose their security; if they did some
7212			hacker might read about it and break it. Who are these guys?
7213
7214			<http://www.iballot.com/faq2.cfm?docid=28>
7215	root	1.387	%
7216	root	1.1	It's too late; Microsoft fixed it. But just a few days ago there was one
7217			more Q/A between the second and third question. It read: "Will the virus
7218			impact my Macintosh if I am using a non-Microsoft e-mail program, such as
7219			Eudora? If you are using a Macintosh e-mail program that is not from
7220			Microsoft, we recommend checking with that particular company. But most
7221			likely other e-mail programs like Eudora are not designed to enable virus
7222			replication."
7223			<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/office/2001/virus_alert.asp>
7224	root	1.387	%
7225	root	1.1	[just some private thoughts]
7226			Ever asked yourself why your handheld irda communication is so slow?
7227
7228			IrOBEX (Irda Object Exchange): A standard made by Microsoft, and it really
7229			shows.
7230
7231			First of all, it is utterly inefficient in transfers: RTT totally dictates
7232			transfer speed, not a good thing with Irda (which has a high RTT). This
7233			totally circumvents the sliding windows irda protocol.
7234
7235			Also, the IrOBEX specification talks a lot about "Unicode" text without
7236			defining it (except through totally wrong descriptions like "Unicode
7237			is two bytes/character", showing their total lack of knowledge since
7238			this is just plain wrong. I wonder what they mean with "Unicode", some
7239			MS-proprietary format? Not unlikely, given what they did to iso-8859-1).
7240
7241			Reading through that document you will find that it would have been easy
7242			to find people doing a better job. Actually, I think even apes would come
7243			up with a saner protocol.
7244	root	1.387	%
7245	root	1.1	[voting by television, the american way...]
7246			"They [voters] were like, 'Who are all these people? I thought it was only Bush
7247			and Gore running,' " Tyson said.
7248
7249			Many voters believed the 10 candidates were running for different offices and
7250			cast votes for several of them, Tyson said. Some Spanish-speaking or Haitian
7251			voters may have had difficulty understanding directions, Tyson said.
7252	root	1.387	%
7253	root	1.1	IBM has withdrawn CPRM...
7254			<http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-201-4922288-0.html?tag=mn_hd>
7255			...and replaced it with something almost identical:
7256			<http://slashdot.org/yro/01/02/23/2134255.shtml>
7257			A good analysis by John Gilmore:
7258			<http://cryptome.org/cprm-smoke.htm>
7259	root	1.387	%
7260	root	1.1	[Midori-Linux FAQ]
7261			Q: What can I do about Netscape crashing?
7262	root	1.247	A: Any experienced user of Linux Netscape is used to
7263			seeing it crash and the included version of Linux Netscape
7264			is no exception. This is probably not good, but the product
7265			does not come with source code. The workaround is to run
7266	root	1.1	Netscape in a loop.
7267	root	1.387	%
7268	root	1.1	Subject: [reiserfs-list] Free Space - Where did it go?
7269	root	1.387	%
7270	root	1.1	[Technologieregion Karlsruhe (und andere)]
7271			marco: Die Region zwischen Stuttgart, Heilbronn und Karlsruhe produziert
7272	root	1.247	mehr als Laender wie Schweden, die Schweiz oder Spanien!
7273	root	1.1	marco: Im neuesten Technologiebarometer von wired stehen wir auf Platz 2
7274	root	1.247	hinter dem Silicon Valley in bezug auf Technologie und Infrastruktur
7275	root	1.387	%
7276	root	1.1	[2001-03-14, 3sat, Kulturzeit zum Absturz der MIR:]
7277			"ist mir egal"
7278	root	1.387	%
7279	root	1.1	From: Hans Reiser
7280			Subject: [reiserfs-list] fsck now uses lost and found!
7281
7282			Dad, make sure the docs get updated.
7283	root	1.387	%
7284	root	1.1	[debugging message found in the siemens data exchange software]
7285			hallole
7286	root	1.387	%
7287	root	1.1	I have seen that many drives either have a pathetically small queue or
7288			have completely broken tagged queueing. I guess thats what happens when
7289			most vendors target their hardware for micro$oft.
7290	root	1.387	%
7291	root	1.1	1925 With a drink so good, 'tis folly to be thirsty
7292			1929 The high sign of refreshment
7293			1929 The pause that refreshes
7294			1930 It had to be good to get where it is
7295			1932 The drink that makes a pause refreshing
7296			1935 The pause that brings friends together
7297			1937 STOP for a pause... GO refreshed
7298			1938 The best friend thirst ever had
7299			1939 Thirst stops here
7300			1942 It's the real thing
7301			1947 Have a Coke
7302			1961 Zing! what a REFRESHING NEW FEELING
7303			1963 Things go better with Coke
7304			1969 Face Uncle Sam with a Coke in your hand
7305			1979 Have a Coke and a smile
7306			1982 Coke is it!
7307			-- Coca-Cola slogans
7308	root	1.387	%
7309	root	1.1	[strings recently found in my /proc/cpuinfo]
7310			model name : Heavily Overclocked Pentium II (Klamath) (266Mhz/66Mhz FSB)
7311	root	1.387	%
7312	root	1.247	[02:24] <elmex> schmorp:
7313			[02:24] <elmex> ich wollte mal meine logik ueberpruefen an deiner erfahrung
7314	root	1.387	%
7315	root	1.388	[Die letzte Woche war zuviel für Paul]
7316	root	1.1	Nach mehrstuendigen Laptop-um-/-neu-/-rauf- und runterinstallationen
7317			erlitt unser allseits bekannter und beliebter RechnerHiWi
7318			islpaul.bettinger am heutigen Nachmittag einen Totalabsturz. Nach der
7319			Meldung "Die Anwendung 'Installiere Cheflaptop' wurde aufgrund eines
7320			ungueltigen Vorganges beendet" begann er sinnlose Lieder zu singen "Die
7321			Karawane zieht weiter, der Sultan haelt durch". Unmittelbar darauf
7322			wurde seine Brille blau, der Schriftzug "Allgemeine Schutzverletzung"
7323			erschien. Nach einem Reboot durch Roland (ehemaliger Fussballer, zum
7324			booten also gut geeignet), meldete Paul nur noch "Bitte Windows 2000 CD
7325			einlegen" (siehe dazu die vorige PTS-Mitteilung). Nach Einlegen einer
7326			Linux-Bootdiskette konnte Paul im Single User Modus wiederbelebt werden
7327			- allerdings nur mit einem Bruchteil seiner urspruenglichen Faehigkeiten
7328			(640k Speicher, 16bit Farbwahrnehmung, kein Plug&Play). Er plant nun eine
7329			Karriere als Windows Sysadmin oder Java Programmierer.
7330
7331			Beileidbekundungen und Spenden bitte an
7332			hi09@isl.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de
7333	root	1.387	%
7334	root	1.1	[RMS about gcc snapshots]
7335			From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
7336
7337			[...] Red Hat did make their own release from a snapshot, which was an
7338			uncool thing to do. [...]
7339	root	1.387	%
7340	root	1.1	"Als das Universum einige zehntausend Jahre alt war - logarithmisch
7341			betrachtet also vor relativ kurzer Zeit -, ..."
7342			[Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 3/2001, S. 38]
7343	root	1.387	%
7344	root	1.388	"Es ist ein wunderbar beglückendes Gefühl, wenn ein selbstgefertigtes
7345	root	1.1	Programm zum ersten Mal in die Rechenmaschine eingelesen wird, wenn die
7346	root	1.388	Maschine anschließend rechnet und die richtigen Resultate ausdruckt."
7347	root	1.1
7348	root	1.388	"Manche Programmierer erliegen dem Rausch dieses Gefühls so sehr,
7349			daß sie süchtig werden und über dem Programmieren andere Dinge
7350			vernachlässigen. Erfahrungsgemäß hört diese Sucht nach 0,5 bis 2 Jahren
7351			von selbst auf und macht dann häufig sogar einer gewissen Abneigung gegen
7352	root	1.1	die Maschinen Platz."
7353			[Prof. Dr. Karl Nickel (TH Karlsruhe), "ALGOL Praktikum", 1964]
7354	root	1.387	%
7355	root	1.1	My previous job, and some contract work I have done, involved writing
7356			software for Windows. My WORST problems were incompatibilities between
7357			Windows NT and Windows 95. The APIs do NOT, I repeat NOT! NOT! NOT!
7358			work the same on the various Windows flavors, as soon as you start
7359			doing non-trivial applications. Three times at least, portability
7360			problems from NT to Win95 cost me sleepless nights. Debugging stuff
7361			like that is hell when you don't have the source.
7362
7363			And when things break on Win95 where they ran on NT, what do you do,
7364			run a debugger on Win95, where a crash can (and will) bring down the
7365			whole system? Ugh, the horror.
7366	root	1.387	%
7367	root	1.1	> You know XOR is patented (yes, the logical bit operation XOR).
7368
7369			US Patent #4,197,590 held by NuGraphics, Inc.
7370	root	1.387	%
7371	root	1.1	Legend has it Microsoft once found a patent of theirs which IBM appeared
7372			to have infringed, and were very excited at the possibility of something
7373			to hold over IBM, so their lawyers met IBM's lawyers. The MS lawyers
7374			beamed "look at our patent you've infringed!" IBM's lawyers replied "look
7375			at this pile of our patents YOU'VE infringed... let's start with this
7376	root	1.247	one. A Tab key." MS suddenly realised they were outlawyered...
7377	root	1.387	%
7378	root	1.1	From: David Woodhouse
7379			> Okay, so if we are going to get real stupid about the whole thing, I
7380			> wonder if Microsloth is going to patent the patent?
7381
7382			Filing nuisance patents for obvious stuff which shouldn't ever get granted
7383			is a viable business method and as such is patentable in the US.
7384
7385			After all, what patent officer is going to point out the prior art?
7386	root	1.387	%
7387	root	1.1	http://vger.kernel.org/lkml/#s3-9
7388	root	1.387	%
7389	root	1.1	[recently on linux-kernel]
7390			From: Alan Cox
7391			> > Yeah. We can have this as part of the locale settings, changable by
7392			> > echoing the desired locale string to /proc/sys/kernel/lc_all.
7393	root	1.247	>
7394			> Just an idea, . . but isn't this something better done in userland?
7395	root	1.1
7396	root	1.247	Please remember this is an international list. For the benefit of certain
7397	root	1.1	users please mark all sarcasm with the word NOT or a simply face
7398	root	1.387	%
7399	root	1.1	From: Russell King
7400			Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:31:26 +0000 (GMT)
7401			To: Albert D. Cahalan
7402
7403			Albert D. Cahalan writes:
7404			> The units seem to vary. I suggest using fundamental SI units.
7405			> That would be meters, kilograms, seconds, and maybe a very
7406			> few others -- my memory fails me on this.
7407
7408			iirc, SI comes from France, and therefore it should be "metres"
7409
7410			[flames to /dev/null please] ;)
7411	root	1.387	%
7412	root	1.388	[11:19] <pho3nix> ich hoffe du bist dir im klaren darüber, das ein Mensch,
7413	root	1.1	der was von dir hielt, jetzt so beleidigt wurde, dass er nichts mehr mit
7414			dir zu tun haben will, COMMUNICATION END
7415	root	1.247	[11:19] <schmorp> pho3nix: ich weiss ja nochnichtmal, warum?
7416	root	1.387	%
7417	root	1.388	[über "Mediengestaltung"]
7418	root	1.247	[10:39] <elmex\|Zz> pho3nix: information mit desingt ueberlagern
7419			[10:40] <schmorp> elmex\|Zz: ueberlagern oder erestzen, das its hier die frage?
7420	root	1.387	%
7421	root	1.1	[perldoc perlembed]
7422			You can sometimes _write_faster_code_ in C, but you can always _write_code_faster_ in Perl.
7423	root	1.387	%
7424	root	1.247	[03:34] <JanMan> Arvoreen: elmex-werbung: "Nur echt elmex, wenn Lukas drinnsteckt" :)
7425	root	1.387	%
7426	root	1.247	[09:26] <JanMan> bevor du arbeiten auf lukas-server nimm den job als massenmoerder.
7427			[09:34] <JanMan> elmex: pass' auf, dass keine loop entsteht:
7428			nameserver->lukas_arsch->lukas->dein_arsch->du->name-server
7429	root	1.387	%
7430	root	1.1	[linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_nat_ftp.c]
7431			/* So there I am, in the middle of my `netfilter-is-wonderful'
7432			talk in Sydney, and someone asks `What happens if you try
7433			to enlarge a 64k packet here?'. I think I said something
7434			eloquent like `fuck'. */
7435	root	1.387	%
7436	root	1.1	[20:44] <elmex\|aw> ich werde mir nochmal ueberlegen ob ich heute nochmal hier her komme......
7437	root	1.387	%
7438	root	1.247	[09:40] <kiki> zu spaet
7439			[09:40] <JanMan> kiki: hey, blasen hilft jetzt auch nicht mehr...
7440			[09:41] <kiki> lutschen hat noch nie bei dir geholfen
7441			[09:41] <kiki> aushungern schon
7442			[09:41] <JanMan> elmex: ja, das hat mit blume + biene zu tun.
7443			[09:41] <elmex> ?
7444			[09:42] <elmex> JanMan: ich kenne mich schon sehr wohl damit aus. nur halt noch keine erfarung
7445	root	1.387	%
7446	root	1.1	[Sierpinski Triangle, by Rich Morin]
7447			for$y(0..31){for(0..31){print$_&$y?$":'*'}print$/}
7448	root	1.387	%
7449	root	1.1	[From RDFStore::Stanford::Digest::Util, which is a java library ported to
7450			perl:]
7451
7452			$SIG{__WARN__} = sub { return undef; }; #to take off the bloody utf warns
7453
7454			[now, as for some comments: it took me hours to debug code that used warn
7455			to, well, warn users but the users didn't see anything. The intent of the
7456			above code was obviously to get rid of the "illegal multibyte character"
7457			warning in perl. This is the typical way a java programmer reacts to bugs
7458			in his code: "I don't understand this computer thing anyway, so let's just
7459			disable the message and pray it works"]
7460	root	1.387	%
7461	root	1.1	[Another "one-liner" mail... Please spam him ;)]
7462			From: "Alexander Daskalov" <alexanderd@alexsmail.com>
7463			Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:44:11 -0800
7464			X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05>
7465
7466			I was just curious how many people are on ths gimp mailing list? Whoever+
7467			can see this message please reply with a simple answer like: i am, or+
7468			i'm on the list!, etc. Please reply, i thik everybody else might want to+
7469			know this same information, it also gives us a chance to know each other+
7470			better! So please reply to this message if on the mailing list!
7471	root	1.387	%
7472	root	1.1	[I was looking for ISO3166 && ISO639 tables in the corresponding "local"
7473			language, if applicable, and came up with this:]
7474			http://www.tieke.fi/sc32wg1/wg1n155.pdf
7475	root	1.387	%
7476	root	1.1	[imap-2000c/c-client/unix.c]
7477			* This file is dedicated to my dog, Unix, also known as Yun-chan and
7478			* Unix J. Terwilliker Jehosophat Aloysius Monstrosity Animal Beast. Unix
7479			* passed away at the age of 11 1/2 on September 14, 1996, 12:18 PM PDT, after
7480			* a two-month bout with cirrhosis of the liver.
7481	root	1.387	%
7482	root	1.1	[from qmail's maildir(5)]
7483			Many sites use Sun's Network Failure System (NFS), presumably because the
7484			operating system vendor does not offer anything else.
7485	root	1.387	%
7486	root	1.1	[Lukas Grundwald]
7487			Der Film scheint echt gut zu sein: geht viel kaputt.
7488	root	1.387	%
7489	root	1.1	[waiting for windows...]
7490			http://www.cool-pix-server.de/pix/microsoft/microsoft002.jpg
7491	root	1.387	%
7492	root	1.1	[x86 really is a cool design]
7493			> For our specific purposes, that's not important. We already flush the cache
7494			> before we create uncached regions (via ioremap_nocache). I understand that as a
7495			> general Linux feature, you can't ignore cache incoherency, but I don't think
7496			> it's a hard requirement.
7497
7498			Actually you can't ignore it or the processor will have a heart attack
7499			if the cached page mapping is used even speculatively. I've done some
7500			experimenting, if the page is mapped cached in one place, and UCWC in
7501			another, things will not work. Its extremely likely the processor will
7502			cease to function. Its not like having cached and uncached mappings of
7503			a page (which does work on the Intel processors, we use that feature in
7504			the agpgart and the DRM in fact.) When you mark a page UCWC, you better
7505			have removed all cached mappings or your asking for REAL trouble.
7506	root	1.387	%
7507	root	1.1	> once again. On the Debian group it's invariably "how do I load
7508			> Netscape?"
7509	root	1.247
7510	root	1.1	can't be. debian sounds more like: "who do i have to ask for using
7511			netscape, and do we all agree on /usr/local/bin/. ?"
7512	root	1.387	%
7513	root	1.1	The COBOL language was created specifically to reduce the amount of
7514			commenting necessary in a program, because the English-like sentence
7515			structure could be read and understood by humans. The FORTRAN language was
7516			created so that math types could "talk" in a language more familiar to
7517			them, letting the computer take care of the details about how to perform
7518			the specified task step-by-step.
7519	root	1.387	%
7520	root	1.1	There is an old programmer's rule.
7521
7522			"Documentation? Too bad. If the code was damned hard to write, it should
7523			be damned hard to understand."
7524	root	1.387	%
7525	root	1.1	[Linus]
7526			Tabs are 8 characters. They are NOT adjustable. Never have been, never
7527			will be. Anybody who thinks tabs are anything but 8 chars apart is just
7528			wrong. It's that simple.
7529	root	1.387	%
7530	root	1.1	[yes, thank you, it helps a lot ;)]
7531	root	1.247	09:31] *** Joins: Unkn0wn [chaos@AC880AE2.ipt.aol.com] has joined #schmorp
7532	root	1.1	[09:32] <Unkn0wn> Nah, I won't alert yas. Was just cruisin around and found your
7533			site of H-games and thought bout thankin you for puttin it up. I figure most ppl
7534			never take a moment to thank someone. =P <Bows, and heads back to #VB on
7535	root	1.247	Undernet>
7536	root	1.387	%
7537	root	1.1	[character normalization might be harmful]
7538			> In short, normalizing prior to digesting AVOIDS allowing
7539			> inconsequential changes to change the digest. If I have misunderstood the
7540			> point of the section cited, I'm sure someone will correct me.
7541
7542			Your scenario is correct as far as it goes. But consider a signed
7543			document that contains an element or attribute named
7544	root	1.388	"autorisation_de_découvert" ("credit limit").
7545	root	1.1	A forged version of the document that contained the name
7546			"autorization_de_de'couvert" (where ' = COMBINING ACUTE) would pass
7547			a normalization + signature check. However, the document processor
7548			might well fail to recognize it as having the semantics of "credit limit"
7549			and treat it as unknown and to be ignored. Bad news: the forger
7550			now appears to have unlimited credit!
7551	root	1.387	%
7552	root	1.1	["my spam"]
7553			99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other
7554			numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of
7555			protestors and disidents). Half of what's left comes from either .kr
7556			or .br. I'm fully in favor of an Internet Death Penalty against those
7557			TLD's and associated domains till they clean up their acts.
7558	root	1.387	%
7559	root	1.1	[from linux-kernel]
7560			Hello Linus, my name is Rick Jones. I am the person at Hewlett-Packard
7561			who drafted the "so _obviously_ stupid" sendfile() interface of HP-UX.
7562			[... snip ...]
7563			never forget what leads to the downfall of the protagonist in Greek
7564			tragedy...
7565	root	1.387	%
7566	root	1.1	From: "Mike A. Harris"
7567	root	1.247
7568	root	1.1	On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
7569			>---- A notice to spammers ----
7570			>Unsolicited electronic mail advertisements to my email address is
7571			>strictly prohibited. Pursuant to California Business and Professions
7572			>Code, Section 17538.45, senders of unsolicited electronic mail
7573			>advertisements to me may be subject to a civil penalty of $50 per
7574			>message plus attorney's fees.
7575			[SNIP long sig]
7576	root	1.247
7577	root	1.1	O - K then. Nice sig. Too bad that it is at least as big as
7578			most spam mailings themselves. Instead of preventing spam,
7579			all you're doing is contributing to it.
7580	root	1.247
7581	root	1.1	I just delete spam now as it is easiest most of the time.
7582			However fortunately, the below sig comes from a static and easily
7583			procmailable address.
7584	root	1.247
7585	root	1.1	One more note is that no law of California, nor anywhre else
7586			means jack shit 50 meters away from your keyboard, so it is all
7587			just a waste of bandwidth.
7588	root	1.387	%
7589	root	1.388	rm: Entfernen von Verzeichnis »./xxx/po« nicht möglich: Die Datei existiert bereits
7590	root	1.387	%
7591	root	1.1	[during a toilet session, this flashed/flushed through my mind/brain]
7592			/bin/true --version \| read && echo eek, a gnuzifist\!
7593	root	1.387	%
7594	root	1.1	[stefan thought this would be better]
7595	root	1.247	/bin/true --version \| read && rm -rf / # get rid of non-posix Windows stuff.
7596	root	1.387	%
7597	root	1.1	[Java-Design]
7598	root	1.247	[02:53] <schmorp> in c 1 stunde suchen und probieren und dann 7 zeilen
7599			[02:53] <JanMan> schmorp: nein. in C 2 minuten suchen.
7600			[02:54] <JanMan> ich weiss nicht, an welchen level ich wo patchen soll.
7601	root	1.1	[02:55] <JanMan> es gibt eine Key, eine RSAKey, eine RSAKeyPublic/RSAKeyPrivate
7602	root	1.247	klasse, alles muell.
7603			[02:56] <JanMan> (ueberall noch ein praefix SSH..)
7604			[02:56] <JanMan> und die sachen sind ueber SSHRSAPublicKeyFile abgewickelt...
7605			[02:57] <JanMan> klar gibt es auch SSHRSAPublicKeyString.
7606	root	1.387	%
7607	root	1.247	[02:38] <JanMan> Lexikon: Java - siehe "ins Knie ficken, objektorientiert"
7608	root	1.387	%
7609	root	1.247	[02:30] <JanMan> schmorp: java has too many keywords but lacks an important one.
7610	root	1.1	[02:32] <JanMan> schmorp: yes: "broken". Java needs a "broken" keyword. "Error:
7611	root	1.247	missing "broken" but class seems "broken".
7612	root	1.387	%
7613	root	1.1	On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 09:34:08PM -0500, Michael Rothwell wrote:
7614			The man pages for open, read and write say that if a file is opened
7615			using the O_NONBLOCK flag, then read() and write() will always return
7616			immediately and not block the calling process.
7617
7618			the man pages are wrong
7619
7620			--cw
7621	root	1.387	%
7622	root	1.1	From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
7623			...
7624			My take on this is that khttpd is unmaintained garbage.
7625	root	1.387	%
7626	root	1.1	[Subject: line on linux-kernel]
7627			Re: That horrible hack from hell called A20
7628	root	1.387	%
7629	root	1.1	From: "Vladimir V. Saveliev"
7630			> tar cvpf - foo \| ( cd reiserfs; tar xvpf - )
7631			> Halfway through it gets a kernel oops and
7632
7633			How fast does it oops?
7634	root	1.387	%
7635	root	1.1	From: Stefan Traby <stefan@hello-penguin.com>
7636
7637			On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:01:05PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
7638			> NFSv2 has a 32bit file offset. Thus the largest file on NFSv2 you want to
7639			> touch is 2Gig.
7640
7641			In theory, yes.
7642			In practice you don't want to touch NFS under Linux at all, so the
7643			2GB limit is a theoretical one. :)
7644	root	1.387	%
7645	root	1.247	[10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7646			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \| \| \| \| \|
7647			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \| \|-----\| \| \| \|
7648			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-------------------------\| \| \| \|
7649			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \| .---------------------------.\| \|-------\|
7650			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \| \|Welcome on elmex.x-paste.de\|\| \| \|
7651			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \| `---------------------------'\| \| \|
7652			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|----------\| \|-----------------------\| \|
7653			[10:44] <elmex> \| \| \|-\| \| \| \| \|
7654			[10:44] <elmex> \|-\| \| \| \| \|-----\| \|
7655			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|------------\|-------------- \| \| \|
7656			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-----------------------------------\|-\| \|----\|
7657			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \|-\| \| \| \| \|
7658			[10:44] <elmex> \| \|-\| \| \| \| \| \|
7659			[10:44] <elmex> \|-\| \| \| \| \| \|
7660			[10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7661	root	1.387	%
7662	root	1.1	Any committee IQ: average intelligence of members, divided by headcount.
7663	root	1.387	%
7664	root	1.1	"There were a lot of snickers in my course... The students looked at me
7665			like I was a stegosaurus still walking around when I told them that the
7666			[irrational spending of many dot-coms] was not sustainable. You have to
7667			take in more money then you put out, or you're toast."
7668			-- Ken Morse, managing director, MIT Entrepreneurship Center
7669	root	1.387	%
7670	root	1.1	"Wenn _ich_ das sage, darf ich das."
7671			[Lukas Grunwald]
7672	root	1.387	%
7673	root	1.1	[about having sponsoring message in YOUR syslog]
7674			From: Felix von Leitner <leitner@convergence.de>
7675			Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:33:13 +0100
7676			To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
7677
7678			Thus spake Wojciech Puchar (wojtek@wojtek.from.pl):
7679			> > To view list of copyright holders type `copyright' at the shell
7680			> > prompt.
7681			> very good. maybe implement /proc/info/copyrights /proc/info/sponsors
7682			> /proc/info/authors?
7683	root	1.247
7684	root	1.1	Grand idea.
7685			Let's also add /proc/info/spammers,
7686			/proc/info/people-who-bothered-linus,
7687			/proc/info/people-who-disagree-with-hans-reiser,
7688			/proc/info/people-who-were-flamed-by-alan-cox and
7689			/proc/info/people-who-marc-lehmann-dislikes.
7690	root	1.247
7691	root	1.1	NOT.
7692			[...]
7693	root	1.387	%
7694	root	1.1	[Nick and I used to fight a LOT]
7695			Subject: Re: suggestion for gimp 1.3 and later
7696			From: Nick Lamb <njl98r@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
7697	root	1.247
7698	root	1.1	On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:29:41AM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
7699			> I think the best way would be to make any gtk label/text widget be
7700			> selectable. I don't know why this has not been done so far, but it might be
7701			> an interesting experiment.
7702	root	1.247
7703	root	1.1	Yes, I've often thought this. And everyone knows that if Marc and I agree
7704			about something it must be right (?) or at least it's in no-one's interest
7705			to disagree...
7706	root	1.387	%
7707	root	1.1	http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LNUX&d=2y WINNER
7708			http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RHAT&d=2y 2nd prize!
7709			http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CALD&d=1y 3rd prize!
7710			[und Lukas sagt:]
7711			... man beachte die logarithmische Skala!
7712	root	1.387	%
7713	root	1.1	[from "how to photograph a total eclipse", in the nasa 1999 solar eclipse
7714			report:]
7715			... The best strategy is to choose one aperture or f/number and bracket
7716			the exposures over a range of shutter speeds (i.e. 1/1000 down to 1
7717			second). Rehearsing this sequence is highly recommended since great
7718			excitment accompanies totality and there is little time to think.
7719	root	1.387	%
7720	root	1.1	[boy, now I know why I dislike GNOME]
7721			http://www.helixcode.com/~miguel/bongo-bong.html
7722	root	1.387	%
7723	root	1.1	["kORBit, a CORBA implementation for the linux-kernel"]
7724			From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
7725			Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:34:39 +0100
7726
7727			Alexander Viro wrote:
7728			> > It was just an example. Basically, you'd be able to do in with just
7729			> > about any language that has ORBit bindings.
7730			>
7731			> Yeah... "Infinitely extendable API" and all such. Roughly translated
7732			> as "we can't live without API bloat". Frankly, judging by the GNOME
7733			> codebase people who designed the thing are culturally incompatible with
7734			> UNIX.
7735
7736			Agree. I remember a big complaint about Windows was the huge APIs,
7737			compared with Unix' tiny list of syscalls. And then I saw the GNOME
7738			docs... ew!
7739	root	1.387	%
7740	root	1.1	> Good question. The whole thing makes me nervous... in fact, perhaps we
7741			> should really consider using the BIOS INT 15h interrupt to enter
7742			> protected mode?
7743
7744			From my experience with BIOS authors, only if Windows 98 uses the same function
7745			with the same arguments, the same stuff top of stack and the same segment
7746			registers loaded ;)
7747	root	1.387	%
7748	root	1.1	> > there... If someone wants to back-port the driver to 2.2, this makes it
7749			[...]
7750			> backports hurt forward progress.
7751
7752			beware of content free dogma
7753	root	1.387	%
7754	root	1.1	> What operating systems use local time as their basic clock these days? Just
7755			> wondering.
7756
7757			Any IBM PC compatible machine that runs under at least one Microsoft OS
7758			has to keep the battery-backed CMOS clock chip in local time, because
7759			unlike most other operating systems (e.g., any Unix flavour), none of
7760			Microsoft's CMOS clock drivers have a UTC option. Rather disappointing
7761			and every year an unneeded hassle after DST switches on multi-OS
7762			machines. From discussions with Microsoft staff, I have to conclude that
7763			no-one within Microsoft has even understood the problem.
7764
7765			Markus [G. Kuhn]
7766	root	1.387	%
7767	root	1.1	>Keith,
7768	root	1.247	>
7769	root	1.1	>Please consider the attached patch for inclusion in all future versions
7770			>of the modutils depmod program for compatiblity with RedHat and
7771			>RedHat derived Linux distributions.
7772
7773			I have a big problem with Redhat. They make incompatible changes to
7774			utilities, do not feed patches back to maintainers then expect the rest
7775			of the world to follow their lead. The -i and -m flags to modutils are
7776			not the only example, I recently found IA64 and Sparc patches they had
7777			added to modutils code and not bothered to tell me. Other distributors
7778			are much better about sending me patches, Debian and SuSe in particular
7779			do the right thing.
7780
7781			Since "-F System.map" in modutils is equivalent to "-m System.map -i"
7782			and works on all distributions, not just Redhat, the "-m -i" patch is
7783			unnecessary. Consider this my protest against bad habits by
7784			distributors, they created the mess with their lack of communication
7785			and they have to fix it.
7786	root	1.387	%
7787	root	1.1	10:44] <JanMan> falls Du mal DB2 crashen musst:
7788			[10:45] <JanMan> connect reset;
7789			[10:45] <JanMan> connect to sample user db2admin using db2admin;
7790			[10:45] <JanMan> select * from employee where year(birthdate)=1999 and firstnme<'';
7791	root	1.387	%
7792	root	1.1	[a perl quine, by ilmari karonen:]
7793			printf+(q(printf+(q(%s))x2))x2
7794	root	1.387	%
7795	root	1.1	On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 07:22:34PM -0500, M&M Samsel wrote:
7796			> You see I have about 10 years of commercial development experience and
7797			> pretty much know business procedures from huge corporations and business
7798			> midgets and what I should expect or not.
7799
7800			You've not demonstrated your 10 years of experience.
7801			You've just proved that killfiles are useful.
7802	root	1.387	%
7803	root	1.1	[once upon a time, when poul started gnomeicu:]
7804			gnomeicu: Rohrbruch (beim Speichern der Konfiguration)
7805	root	1.387	%
7806	root	1.1	[subject from a thread on the gcc steering commitee mailinglist when
7807			glibc-2.2 was released]
7808			Re: glibc 2.2 a fait accompli
7809	root	1.387	%
7810	root	1.1	[08:05] <JanMan> elmex: Fehlt Dir einmal Klopapier, versuche es mit GNU m4. :)
7811	root	1.387	%
7812	root	1.1	# root:0Ayj0AZhTi4O2:11272:0:99999:7:::
7813			# kma:1NXgYu6J80kvc:11225:0:99999:7:::
7814			# elmex:0ImdHgG2TEQAE:11273:0:99999:7: : :
7815	root	1.387	%
7816	root	1.1	<JanMan_> soll ich das ganze uber einen perl-hash erzeugen ?
7817			<schmorp> klar.. %hash->generate
7818			<JanMan_> oesi siedelt nach de: %oesi->degenerate
7819	root	1.387	%
7820	root	1.1	[From "How the mind of a php programmer works", by Marc Lehmann]
7821
7822			(1) it works on msie 5 (alt.: netscape 4) so the code is
7823			standards-compliant.
7824			(2) an entity looks like "&" entityname ";"
7825			(2a) [conclusion] the fragment href="xxx&notes=77" doesn't contain a valid
7826			entity, so the browser must use it as is.
7827			(2b) [corollary] "<blubb>" is not a valid html element, so the browser
7828			must react according to what I assume it should do (display, ignore).
7829			(2c) in some programs I assume differently than in others.
7830	root	1.387	%
7831	root	1.1	[Oh no, Don Becker again ;)]
7832			> which one is the linksys card, so I have included the entire listing. (Is it
7833			> even listed? Perhaps this is my problem.)
7834
7835			That's your problem.
7836
7837			There is no PCI Ethernet device listed.
7838
7839			Check that the card is fully inserted into the PCI slot.
7840			(If it's an ISA card, then it's not fully inserted into the PCI slot ;->)
7841	root	1.387	%
7842	root	1.1	> > sure request_module _does_not_ accept funky module names. Why allow
7843			> > people to shoot themselves (and, by extension, all other Linux users
7844			> > out there) in the foot?
7845
7846			> I thought that was the whole purpose of Unix/Linux?
7847
7848			True! Very true! Unix/Linux requires that the user shoot
7849			themselves in the foot. Windows automates that process and does it
7850			for the user, thus making foot shooting user friendly. :-)
7851	root	1.387	%
7852	root	1.1	> Turn on encryption, and try sending attachements > 1MB and tell me if
7853			> you see any problems, like emails sitting in /var/spool/mqueue for a day
7854			> or two until they go out. I can guarantee you will.
7855
7856			No encryption use; and the maximal message size is 1Mb (for sanity's sake,
7857			after somebody sent a PowerPoint presentation (some 3Mb), then thought that
7858			perhaps the target didn't have PowerPoint, and sent it again with the
7859			PowerPoint package, then noticed this might not work either, and sent it
7860			_again_ with the full MS Office attached... the joys of sysadminning ;-)
7861			--
7862			Dr. Horst H. von Brand mailto:vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl
7863	root	1.387	%
7864	root	1.1	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com> writes:
7865
7866			> "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU> writes:
7867			>
7868			> > Arguably though the bug is in glibc, in that if it's using signals
7869			> > behinds the scenes, it should have passed SA_RESTART to sigaction.
7870			>
7871			> Why are you talking such a nonsense?
7872
7873			[Note to self: remove kitten from keyboard before writing mail.]
7874	root	1.387	%
7875	root	1.388	[Simon Budig, nachdem er erfahren hatte, daß Lars Eilebrecht nicht wusste,
7876			daß Leerzeichen in URLs nicht erlaubt sind:]
7877			"Also, Lars, das hätte ich nicht gedacht, jetzt hast du aber jede Menge
7878	root	1.1	Gurupunkte bei mir verloren."
7879	root	1.387	%
7880	root	1.1	[amazon readers about the Annotated C Standard by Herberdt Schildt,
7881			which is much less expensive then the official version (search also for
7882			Bullschildt below ;)]
7883
7884			"The price difference reflects the value of the annotations. At no time
7885			do the annotations clarify, enhance, or supplement the standard."
7886	root	1.387	%
7887	root	1.1	Stefan Traby wrote:
7888			>
7889			> On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 08:43:04AM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
7890			>
7891			> > We have a few websites floating around, [...]
7892			>
7893			> Many mirrors are also out of sync. Especially the primary server :)
7894	root	1.387	%
7895	root	1.1	> This happens with both ext2 and reiserfs, since at least 2.2.15.
7896
7897			I installed noflushd on my laptop, which was running 2.4.0-test6, and
7898			it did the same thing.
7899
7900			Sorry I can't offer more info. Someone spilt a glass of water on it about
7901			a week ago. :(
7902
7903			--Jack
7904	root	1.387	%
7905	root	1.388	"Kalk hat diese Waschmaschine getötet"
7906	root	1.387	%
7907	root	1.1	[It is] best to confuse only one issue at a time.
7908			-- K&R
7909	root	1.387	%
7910	root	1.1	<elmex> JanMan: "\|\|01:42:20\|\| <elmex> schmorp: jo, die sprache muss man nicht erklaeren"
7911	root	1.387	%
7912	root	1.1	[please kids, don't try this at home]
7913			indent -kr -l78 -lc78 -lps -i8 -br -pcs -psl -bbo -bad -bap -cs -nbc -nhnl -nss
7914	root	1.387	%
7915	root	1.1	http://www.attrition.org/gallery/ms/kmfms.jpg
7916	root	1.387	%
7917	root	1.1	[PApp.pm]
7918			$modules => { "" => "" };
7919	root	1.387	%
7920	root	1.388	Das einzig sichere Mittel gegen Migräne ist das Entfernen des Kopfes.
7921	root	1.387	%
7922	root	1.1	<JanMan> elmex: Sprichwort "Relaye doch bei dnx, dann kriegst Du nix." :)
7923	root	1.387	%
7924	root	1.1	[From Russel Coker's .sig]
7925			> --
7926			> If you can't program in C, PERL, and shell scripts then don't call yourself a
7927			> Unix administrator. Every idiot on the net is claiming to be a Unix admin. :(
7928	root	1.387	%
7929	root	1.1	[the two sides of the medal]
7930			From: "David Schwartz"
7931
7932			> Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was increased from
7933			> 100 to 10000, the time to check for active sockets with poll()
7934			> increased by a factor of only 6.5. That's a sublinear increase in time,
7935			> pretty spiffy.
7936
7937			Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was decreased from 10,000
7938			to 100, the time to check for active sockets with poll() decreased by a
7939			factor of only 6.5. Shouldn't it be more like 100? Sounds like Solaris' poll
7940			implementation is horribly broken for the most common case.
7941	root	1.387	%
7942	root	1.1	[lukas grunwald...]
7943	root	1.388	[ich sag' dir, ] ... am nächsten Tag brüllt der mich vielleicht per e-mail an ...
7944	root	1.387	%
7945	root	1.1	[from linux-kernel, about the rtl8139 network card]
7946			> (After looking at the specification for the 8139, I am acctually ashamed
7947			> of having bough one.
7948
7949			Not an uncommon thought :)
7950	root	1.387	%
7951	root	1.1	From: Stefan Traby
7952
7953			Hi Marc !
7954
7955			keycode 115 = ISO_Next_Group
7956			keycode 116 = ISO_Prev_Group
7957			keycode 117 = ISO_Level3_Shift
7958
7959			Finde ich witzig, man erspart sich den lock-screensaver :)
7960	root	1.387	%
7961	root	1.1	[I hope you get the point(s)...]
7962			From: Alex LIVINGSTON <alex@agsm.edu.au>
7963			Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:12:46 +1100
7964			To: <tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov>
7965
7966			At 07:40 +0000 2000-10-06, ken@halcyon.com wrote:
7967			>But the thing is: mm/dd/yy[yy] is in widespread use (US), as is
7968			>dd/mm/yy[yy] (much of Europe, I'm told).
7969
7970			Slight refinement: dd/mm/[yy]yy. Used in all European countries - and
7971			all countries colonized by a European country at one time or another
7972			which haven't had a strong US influence since, and probably all
7973			remaining Asian, African, and Pacific countries - that don't use
7974			[yy]yy-mm-dd. mm/dd/yy[yy] is restricted almost entirely to the US
7975			and a few neighbors. I would hesitate to say it is in widespread use.
7976
7977			>[yy]yy-mm-dd was used
7978			>in Japan even before the ISO standard came out.
7979
7980			And in China, and in Sweden, and in Hungary, ... (possibly with different
7981			separators). Also in the Arab world, in the sense that the digits (all of
7982			them) appear in the same order from left to right, only Arabic is written
7983			right to left.
7984
7985			>But no culture
7986			>has ever used [yy]yy-dd-mm format, and there is absolutely
7987			>nothing to recommend it, so there is no reason to expect anyone
7988			>to adopt it. Yes, the perverse can use that format just to
7989			>confound us, but in practice one can safely assume that a
7990			>nnnn-nn-nn date is in yyyy-mm-dd format.
7991
7992			Thanks Ken. You've put it much better and more concisely than I could have.
7993
7994			--Alex
7995	root	1.387	%
7996	root	1.1	[recently, on the tulip driver mailing list]
7997			From: Donald Becker <becker@scyld.com>
7998			To: "Jon.Hinks" <Jon.Hinks@berkeley-ifa.co.uk>
7999
8000			[most of the reply snipped...]
8001
8002			> The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It
8003			> may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than this addressee, nor may
8004			> it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Berkeley
8005
8006			[[ The rest of the boilerplate omitted. ]]
8007
8008			These terms do not apply. You have mailed to a published list. You hold
8009			the copyright to your writings, but by submitting questions to the list you
8010			grant the list publisher (me) the right to publish in this list and related
8011			forums. "Related forums" may be collected archives of the list on any media,
8012			and quotes from questions in FAQs.
8013
8014			(Long boilerplate appendages like this notice annoy me. Automatically
8015			attached copyright notices can never unilaterally extend your rights, so why
8016			try to claim that they do?)
8017	root	1.387	%
8018	root	1.1	On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Andre Hedrick wrote:
8019
8020			> void go_take_a_dump (float load)
8021			> {
8022			> if (pull_down_pants() && purge_bowles() && wipe_anus() && pull_up_pants())
8023			> flush(load);
8024			> else
8025			> wear(load);
8026			> }
8027
8028			But here you make another classic mistake. Consider the case where
8029			purge_bowels() fails (-EWOULDBLOCK?).
8030
8031			In that case, you don't actually execute the subsequent two procedure
8032			calls, which I'm sure we all agree is a suboptimal state of affairs.
8033
8034			--
8035			dwmw2
8036	root	1.387	%
8037	root	1.1	Factoid: 90% of all patents are never challenged, while 80% of those that
8038			are are overturned.
8039	root	1.387	%
8040	root	1.1	"Going into court is throwing the dice."
8041	root	1.387	%
8042	root	1.1	[Dipl. Ing. W***** D*****]
8043			"Lukas, eins muss dir klar sein, die ganze Kryptographie ist doch
8044	root	1.388	für den Arsch, wenn ich ein Stück von dem Originaltext habe und den
8045			verschlüsselten Text, knack' ich dir jeden Schlüssel in 50 Stunden."
8046	root	1.387	%
8047	root	1.1	[some discussion between reiserfs enthusiasts:]
8048			Stefan: oh shit, everything coredumps, I'll just reboot.
8049			Marc gives some dumb comments.
8050			Stefan: No, I'll first check it with reiserfsck.
8051			Marc: Yeah.. and?
8052			Stefan: "reiserfsck: no reiserfs found"
8053			Marc: Oh, the superblock is damaged. Maybe you should just try the backup superblock...
8054	root	1.387	%
8055	root	1.1	[t-online is just sooo cool:]
8056			Subject: mail failed, returning to sender
8057			From: <MAILER-DAEMON@fmrl01.sul.t-online.de>
8058
8059			\|------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------\|
8060			<service@t-online.de> ... 550 Mailbox quota exceeded / Mailbox voll.
8061			\|------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------\|
8062	root	1.387	%
8063	root	1.1	[a play with a well-known-signature:]
8064			Deadlock, n.:
8065			Deceased Rasterman.
8066	root	1.387	%
8067	root	1.1	[Jeff Williams & friends]
8068			ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-bremen.de/pub/doc/internet-drafts/draft-terrell-ip-spec-ipv7-ipv8-addr-cls-00.txt
8069			http://IPv8.vrx.net/
8070			http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08030.html
8071	root	1.387	%
8072	root	1.1	[some .signature]
8073			This message has been ROT-13 encrypted twice for extra security.
8074	root	1.387	%
8075	root	1.1	[Andreas Mueller-Maghun for ICANN!]
8076			Allein der Kandidat des Chaos-Computer-Clubs (CCC) Hamburg, der schon
8077	root	1.388	mehr als 1.100 Unterstützungserklärungen erhalten hat, dürfte nach
8078			Einschätzung des arbeitskreises die Bedingung für eine Basiskandidatur
8079			zum ICANN-Direktorium schon jetzt erfüllen. Ausgerechnet er hat es aber
8080			nicht für nötig gehalten, auf die Anfrage der Behindertenvertreter zu
8081	root	1.1	reagieren. Seine Webseiten zeugen zudem von einem "Sicherheitskonzept",
8082			das Usern mit Sehbehinderung vor lauter technischen Barrieren keine
8083	root	1.388	Zugangsmöglichkeiten bietet. Der Arbeitskreis hält einen Vertreter solcher
8084			Positionen für unwählbar.
8085	root	1.1
8086			Jens Bertrams (Pressesprecher)
8087	root	1.387	%
8088	root	1.1	From: (Albert Y. C. Lai)
8089			Newsgroups: comp.lang.functional
8090			Subject: Re: what is "functional" (Re: Macros)
8091
8092			Jerzy Karczmarczuk writes:
8093
8094			> Their opinion: "well, everybody knows that this is not professional,
8095			> nobody uses functional languages, all your colleagues suggest that we
8096			> should learn Lex and Yacc, etc. -
8097			> but WHAT A PLEASURE AND FUN was to write these programs in Haskell.
8098			> Almost no run-time errors, ever!"
8099
8100			A professor at my school got the opposite opinion from her students.
8101			She introduced ML (along with two other languages) as part of a course
8102			on the principles of programming languages in the third year. The
8103			students' opinion: this is such an annoyingly pedantic language, it
8104			refuses to let me run my program and get some partial though wrong
8105			results simply because I make a mistake!
8106
8107			In other words, given that humans are bound to make mistakes, the
8108			students at my school prefer to see them manifested as run-time
8109			errors.
8110
8111			So I look at your email address. Ah, you are in Europe and I am in
8112			North America. I guess that's why. Dijkstra is probably right about
8113			European programmers liking to do programming right and American
8114			programmers liking to chase after bugs.
8115	root	1.387	%
8116	root	1.1	On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:15:09PM +0200, Werner Almesberger wrote:
8117			> yodaiken@fsmlabs.com wrote:
8118			> > This call shifts delivered signal numbers up so that
8119			> > "special" POSIX signals [.. like KILL] can be delivered to a process.
8120			>
8121			> Kind of a SIGOVERKILL ... yes, that could work.
8122	root	1.387	%
8123	root	1.1	"The posix programmer knows the availability of everything, but the cost
8124			of nothing."
8125	root	1.387	%
8126	root	1.1	[after the linux-kernel list was moved to a new machine]
8127			Jeffrey Hundstad wrote:
8128			>
8129			> So tell us about this new machine. OS? Filesystem? Memory?
8130			> CPU?
8131
8132			Root password? :)
8133
8134			John.Fulmer
8135	root	1.387	%
8136	root	1.1	I think there is a world market for about five computers.
8137
8138			Thomas J. Watson (Chairman, IBM) 1943
8139	root	1.387	%
8140	root	1.1	> NO. They can/will use RAW_IO IF this is available to them. If not, they
8141			> will have to provide a proper kernel driver for their hardware. I know
8142			> which I prefer...
8143
8144			Sure. And keep that dusty 2.4.3 kernel around just in case you someday need
8145			to upgrade the firmware for your disk, and the (binary!) kernel module only
8146			works with that one. Don't forget the 2.4.15ac12 which is for your USB
8147			scanner, and also the 2.6.7-12 (Red Hat) which is the only one with the
8148			updater for the new SCSI controller.
8149			--
8150			Horst von Brand
8151	root	1.387	%
8152	root	1.1	[de.comp.lang.iso-c++]
8153
8154			>Nicht alles was Standard ist, muss auch implementiert werden.
8155
8156			[...]
8157
8158			Nicht alles, was hinkt, ist ein Vergleich.
8159	root	1.387	%
8160	root	1.1	[Drew Sanford about why not to do real-time by throwing faster hardware
8161			at your problem:]
8162
8163			The F4 Fantom fighter. The plane was essentially a large block of metal, with
8164			a few advantagously aerodynamic surfaces, and big f****** engines. If you
8165			had engine trouble in a Fantom ...you had trouble.
8166	root	1.387	%
8167	root	1.1	[Hans Reiser, on /bin/cp.. ;)]
8168			cp is inherently inefficient.
8169	root	1.387	%
8170	root	1.1	>I thought disk drives contained vacuums, thus the extensive concern over
8171			>breaking seals on them.
8172
8173			Air pressure is 1Kg/cm^2. I have never seen a hard drive case that looked
8174			nearly strong enough to take such pressure. Basically if you can't jump on a
8175			hard drive then it's not strong enough!
8176
8177			...
8178
8179			There's a story that Dave Cutler (VMS and WNT architect) when he was at DEC
8180			did a test on a DEC hard drive by blowing cigar smoke into the drive which
8181			killed it properly. DEC then greatly enhanced their drive air filters. It
8182			could be just an urban myth though.
8183
8184			Russell Coker
8185	root	1.387	%
8186	root	1.1	>I've unsubscribed our somewhat less than intelligent friend.
8187			>Ah, Internet for the masses. What a wonderful idea.
8188
8189			Yeah, let's have an IQ test before you're allowed to buy a modem.
8190	root	1.387	%
8191	root	1.1	On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 02:40:33PM +0200, Marc Lehmann wrote:
8192			> "Yury Yu. Rupasov" wrote:
8193			> > All my current benchmarks show that reiserfs works correctly on
8194			> > deleting.
8195			>
8196			> Just a sidenote: you don't test correctness with benchmarks :(
8197
8198			Wrong. Yury does.
8199			:(
8200
8201			--
8202			Stefan
8203	root	1.387	%
8204	root	1.1	"Jeff V. Merkey" writes:
8205			> I will provide a tool that decodes and repairs NTFS volumes to those
8206			> folks who run into this problem, but our agreements with Microsoft do
8207			> not allow us to distribute it for any purpose other than to assist
8208			> Microsoft customers who have corrupted drives. Also, this tool is
8209			> dependent on the DDK being present to run as it has dependencies on the
8210			> DDK DLL's, so you'll need to install the DDK to use it.
8211
8212			DDK == "Disk Death Kit"?
8213
8214			Ian Soboroff ian@cs.umbc.edu
8215	root	1.387	%
8216	root	1.1	[very instructional movie, if you get what I mean...]
8217	root	1.388	00:30-02:05 (13) ( -35) Kabel 1 Das Mädchen am Ende der Straße The
8218	root	1.1	Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane Psychodrama - KAN/F/USA - 1976 -
8219	root	1.388	Regie: Nicolas Gessner * Die 13-jährige Rynn (Jodie Foster) lebt allein in
8220			einer alten Villa und hütet ein schreckliches Geheimnis.
8221	root	1.387	%
8222	root	1.1	[Einsichten in die "Kommunikation"]
8223			> > > Ich beschreibe dir, was in dem Moment an Eindruecken durch meinen
8224			> > > Kopf geht - in dem Augenblick bin ich Besucher und sehe was
8225			> > > mir gefaellt oder nicht - das ist wie ein Schmierzettel. Die
8226			> > > Ausarbeitung der Ideen kommt danach im Gespraech. Du packst solche
8227			> > > Sachen anders an - das seh ich ein. Aber ich bin mit dieser
8228			> > > Art chaos bisher immer ans Ziel gekommen. Was ich mach will -
8229			> > > machen muss - ist Feedback generieren. Ich lass Versuchsballons
8230			> > > aufsteigen und schau zu, wie sie entweder fliegen oder abgeschossen
8231			> > > werden. Dann reagier ich auf das Ergebnis.
8232	root	1.387	%
8233	root	1.388	[Mitch, als Erklärung dafür, weshalb er blindlings ein (kaputtes) ssh-rpm
8234			installiert hat, das er über rpmfind gefunden hat:]
8235			Doch, echt! Der Server war trusted, der sah' ja sowas von vertrauenswürdig
8236	root	1.1	aus!
8237	root	1.387	%
8238	root	1.1	[IMHO one of the main reasons linux is nicer]
8239			http://www.cyberport.com/~tangent/ix/bsod-story.html
8240	root	1.387	%
8241	root	1.1	[On the reality of random numbers]
8242			> /dev in a world with dynamic hardware, so why bother? We only need
8243			> to provide random numbers to fill in struct stat. (zero works)
8244			Alan Cox [as usual ;)]
8245	root	1.387	%
8246	root	1.1	[Flame Warriors]
8247			http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
8248	root	1.387	%
8249	root	1.1	A programmer who hasn't been exposed to all four of the imperative,
8250			functional, objective, and logical programming styles has one or
8251			more conceptual blindspots. It's like knowing how to boil but not
8252			fry. Programming is not a skill one develops in five easy lessons.
8253
8254			--tom
8255	root	1.387	%
8256	root	1.1	To: bugs@gimp.org
8257			X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 105
8258
8259			Hi there, I recently downloaded your gimp toolkit. At first I was having
8260			problems until I read your download help tip. I understand I have to compile
8261			it so I tried using Borland C++ Compiler but it said the line length exceeds
8262			editor capacity. Is there any other compiler I can use that wouldn't rip a
8263			whole in my wallet. Thank you for your support.
8264	root	1.387	%
8265	root	1.1	["General Information About Using VBScript with Outlook"]
8266			VBScript is designed to be a secure programming environment. It
8267			lacks various commands that can be potentially damaging if used in
8268			a malicious manner. This added security is critical in enterprise
8269			solutions.
8270
8271			http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q167/1/38.ASP
8272
8273			[Despite this "added security", however, VBscript still can modify,
8274			rename, delete files, modify windows registry entries and send email in
8275			the background]
8276	root	1.387	%
8277	root	1.1	[Phil Agre on the "ILOVEYOU" virus and Microsoft's reaction]
8278			Scott Culp of Microsoft Public Relations, excuse me, I mean Microsoft
8279			Security Response Center:
8280
8281			This is a general issue, not a Microsoft issue. You can write a
8282			virus for any platform. (New York Times 5/5/00)
8283
8284			[and later]
8285			Mr. Culp also says this (CNET 5/5/00):
8286
8287			This is by-design behavior, not a security vulnerability.
8288
8289			[Phil closes]
8290			Microsoft shouldn't be broken up. It should be shut down.
8291
8292			[See also http://dlis.gseis.ucla.edu/people/pagre/rre.html]
8293			[and http://commons.somewhere.com/rre/2000/RRE.notes.and.recommenda6.html]
8294	root	1.387	%
8295	root	1.1	[Bruce Schneier about the "ILOVEYOU" virus]
8296			Expect even worse in the future. Systems running either Microsoft Office
8297			2000 or Internet Explorer 5.0 can be infected with these sorts of viruses
8298			even if the recipient doesn't open the attachment. That's right; if the
8299			system is running Internet Explorer with the default settings, it is
8300			vulnerable. The problem is caused by a programming bug in an Internet
8301			Explorer ActiveX control. Thank you, Microsoft.
8302	root	1.387	%
8303	root	1.1	>Reaching to Fallingbostel was extremely amusing though, germany is
8304			>splitted into two halfs, one that doesn't know Fallingbostel and one
8305			>that 'heard of this place but have no idea where it is' at some point I
8306			>was almost convinced that there is no such place :)
8307
8308			[Trashey / Quasars]
8309	root	1.387	%
8310	root	1.1	Tom Christiansen writes:
8311			> I'm writing perlrtfm. It explains search techniques, not quickfix
8312			> switches plugging bursting dykes by springing more leaks.
8313
8314			Irony potential in
8315
8316			man perlrtfm
8317
8318			is left to the reader.
8319
8320			Nat
8321	root	1.387	%
8322	root	1.1	Do you plan to release support for on-the-fly file and directory compression
8323			and encryption as in NTFSv2?
8324
8325			(Imagine a system that in order to run needs a diskette or CD-ROM disk with
8326			private key - protection never seen except in movies ;-)
8327	root	1.387	%
8328	root	1.1	[Telekom-Techniker, bei einer ISDN-UK0-Messung!]
8329			Ich: Also, einen Layer-1-Connect bekomme ich...
8330			Telekomiker: Layer-1? Was ist das? Aber ich bekomme ja auch gar kein Freizeichen...
8331	root	1.387	%
8332	root	1.1	"I love the way Microsoft follows standards. In much the
8333			same manner that fish follow migrating caribou."
8334			Paul Tomblin
8335	root	1.387	%
8336	root	1.1	[recently on p5p]
8337			>I am morally
8338			>convinced that map() was written based on grep()
8339
8340			Considering they use the same op function, I'd say that's a distinct
8341			possibility...
8342
8343			Dan
8344	root	1.387	%
8345	root	1.1	[after the "Welle Erdball" performance on the Mekka&Symposium 2000:]
8346	root	1.388	<jan> bine: du solltest da nicht hingucken, das ist nicht gut fürn kopf
8347	root	1.1	<Bordeaux> after listening to this crap, and hearing zugabe zugabe i finally have the proof that all german c64 sceners are gay :)
8348			<Mr> zugabe
8349	root	1.387	%
8350	root	1.1	"Why upon hearing his arguments I changed my opinion 360 degrees."
8351			Recent comment on the floor of some state legislature
8352	root	1.387	%
8353	root	1.1	DIVIDE EMPLOYEE-EARNINGS BY EMPLOYEE-HOURS GIVING EMPLOYEE-PAY-RATE
8354			[cobol, sigh]
8355	root	1.387	%
8356	root	1.1	It is expected that the Multics system will be published when it is
8357			operating substantially and will therefore be available for implementation
8358			on any equipment with suitable characteristics. Such publication is
8359			desirable for two reasons: First, the system should withstand public
8360			scrutiny and criticism volunteered by interested readers; second, in an
8361			age of increasing complexity, it is an obligation to present and future
8362			system designers to make the inner operating system as lucid as possible
8363			so as to reveal the basic system issues.
8364
8365			Corbat_ & Vyssotsky 1965
8366	root	1.387	%
8367	root	1.1	"Rule #7: Silence is not acquiescence.
8368
8369			"Contrary to what you may have heard, silence of those present is
8370			not necessarily consent, even the reluctant variety. They simply
8371			may sit in stunned silence and figure ways of sabotaging the plan
8372			after they regain their composure."
8373
8374			-- Paul Rinaldo
8375			[see also http://people.qualcomm.com/karn/rinaldo.html]
8376	root	1.387	%
8377	root	1.1	On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 12:09:59AM +1000, Chris wrote:
8378			>
8379			> In case you guys havn't noticed...
8380			>
8381			> http://slashdot.org reports that XFS is now released.
8382
8383			Yes, and http://www.freshmeat.net reports:
8384
8385			Error: Unable to connect to MySQL Server ().
8386
8387			;-}
8388
8389			--
8390
8391			ciao -
8392			Stefan
8393
8394	root	1.387	%
8395	root	1.1	> The 'hypervisor' is a new term to me.. Are you refering to the
8396			> Transmeta CPU and it's native mode? If I read you correctly
8397
8398			No its what the S/390 VM is often called. Its a supervisor for supervisor
8399			mode programs so illogically enough its a hypervisor 8). The IBM mainframe
8400			guys thing this kind of set up is routine. Unix is met with
8401			'You mean you cant run a new kernel on test at the same time as the old
8402			one' type remarks.
8403			[Alan Cox]
8404	root	1.387	%
8405	root	1.1	Godwin's Law
8406
8407			As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
8408			involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
8409
8410			[see also http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/]
8411	root	1.387	%
8412	root	1.1	["Stefan im IRC."]
8413
8414			[01:53:07] <coda> anyone know how to get emacs to stop creating the file.name~ files?
8415			[01:53:24] <JanMan> alias emacs=vi
8416			[01:53:31] <coda> haha
8417	root	1.387	%
8418	root	1.1	[remaining problems with OpenBIOS]
8419			Our SDRAM sizing and init code is not very good; we could use good code.
8420			The code we've been offered so far requires memory to work (oops!);
8421			requires a stack (oops!); or assumes a totally configured machine (oops!).
8422	root	1.387	%
8423	root	1.1	[Alan Cox on wether special fs's should have require "//" in their path]
8424			> No :-) It's a feature. Some things are going REAL ugly without such things.
8425
8426			Given //ipc or freebsd, I think I'd pick freebsd. Thats how ugly the idea
8427			is to me ok.
8428	root	1.387	%
8429	root	1.1	"The code is self documenting." -- The Programmer.
8430
8431			"I don't read C." -- The Tech Writer.
8432	root	1.387	%
8433	root	1.1	[Stefan Sebolth, on the CeBIT, while listening to the original c64 "Giana Sisters" tune:]
8434			Haaach, da war die Welt halt noch in Ordnung!
8435	root	1.387	%
8436	root	1.1	Remember, never ask a geek "why";
8437			just nod your head and back away slowly...
8438	root	1.387	%
8439	root	1.1	The thought of implementing something like text and binary modes for
8440			files is a about a frightening for todays kernel developer's as a mouse
8441			to a women in a typical movie of the 50's ;-)
8442
8443			Ralf
8444	root	1.387	%
8445	root	1.1	It may be real, but it's icky. It's too traditional Unix ``I don't
8446			care if we lose 90% of our market base to NT if our competitor loses
8447			95% of THEIR market base!'' to be palatable.
8448
8449			david parsons
8450	root	1.387	%
8451	root	1.1	["some time ago on p5p"]
8452			> ($host) = gethostbyname('localhost');
8453
8454			>Sadly most UNIX boxes don't add a sane alias to their /etc/hosts file
8455			>so that trick is not portable.
8456
8457			% grep localhost /etc/hosts
8458			127.0.0.1 localhost
8459
8460			--tom
8461	root	1.387	%
8462	root	1.1	["some time ago on p5p"]
8463			On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:22:05PM -0700, Tom Christiansen wrote:
8464			> >But given that most slip drivers I have seen for OS/2 do not do this,
8465			> >the question is moot.
8466			>
8467			> I'll send you a free Unix system.
8468
8469			Thanks, the doors in my house are well-balanced. ;-)
8470
8471			Ilya
8472	root	1.387	%
8473	root	1.1	[Elliott H Mitchell on the reiserfs list]
8474			> Me thinks if unwillingness to use tar over dump will stop you from
8475			> using a better filesystem there will be lots of other reasons that
8476			> will stop you from trying anything new too. So it is not really worth
8477			> trying.
8478
8479			Yeah, if a filesystem randomly lost files and the authors had no plans to
8480			fix it, that would kind discourage one from using it...
8481	root	1.387	%
8482	root	1.1	[Russel Coker on the reiserfs list]
8483			... my old Thinkpad 380XD (Pentium-233 with 3.2G ide hard drive) running
8484			ReiserFS and exporting the file system over 10baseT Ethernet could
8485			outperform local hard drives on an AIX machine running JFS.
8486	root	1.387	%
8487	root	1.1	[Peter Mattis, author of GIMP]
8488			I can't say anything about Rasterman because I've never looked at any of
8489			his code. My only comment about Raster is that he should learn to spell.
8490	root	1.387	%
8491	root	1.1	[David Schwartz on linux-kernel]
8492			> ORBS does not do ANYTHING above try to send few LEGAL
8493			> strings to mailservers with LONG delays. So if you block ORBS you deserve
8494			> blocking :-)
8495
8496			That's not the point. The point is that ORBS claims to be a list of
8497			validated open mail relays, and it's not. It's not supposed to be a list of
8498			people who deserve anything in particular. I'm sure if you talk to the
8499			people who have chosen to block ORBS, you will find that they have their
8500			reasons.
8501
8502			DS
8503	root	1.387	%
8504	root	1.1	[WDR, 19991216 Fernsehen mit Manuel]
8505	root	1.388	Es ist ein Fall bekannt, bei dem sich ein Patient über ein Jahr lang
8506	root	1.1	geweigert hatte, auf die Toilette zu gehen. Dann haben seine Verwandten
8507	root	1.388	und Ärzte ihn dazu überreden können, endlich die Toilette aufzusuchen. Er
8508	root	1.1	hat dabei auf einmal 37 Liter entleert.
8509
8510			Danach lebte er noch ganz normal einige Jahre, bis er, wie in Amerika
8511	root	1.388	üblich, erschossen wurde.
8512	root	1.387	%
8513	root	1.1	> - My Maxtor 27G drive ends up in PIO mode (non-SMP system, but likely
8514			[...]
8515			> Last time I reported this, I had a WDC31600, as hda, and the maxtor as
8516			[...]
8517
8518			You committed a mortal sin in ATA............
8519			You never ever mix WD and Maxtor..........on day I will document why.
8520			Basically these two vendors have timings that are completely incompatable
8521			with each other on the same channel.
8522
8523			IMHO, WD is crap..........however, you may split the two pieces of
8524			hardware and they will work fine under linux and all other OS's.
8525
8526			This rule of "never ever mix WD and Maxtor" is OS independent.
8527	root	1.387	%
8528	root	1.1	[ALF2-Benutzerhandbuch]
8529			"Nur eine tote Festplatte ist eine sichere Festplatte."
8530	root	1.387	%
8531	root	1.1	Physicists write FORTRAN in any language.
8532	root	1.387	%
8533	root	1.1	[OpenBOOT 3.10.6 response to pressing "Ctrl-Alt-Del":]
8534			ANY word at all is a candidate.
8535			USE words to see the entire dictionary.
8536			ok
8537	root	1.387	%
8538	root	1.1	[SDF for POD Users]
8539			... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - even Lisp has it's fans. :-)
8540	root	1.387	%
8541	root	1.1	<Xach> schmorp: i haven't been doing any gimpy things lately
8542			<schmorp> xach: well, who is doing gimpy things lately :(
8543			<Xach> schmorp: Mitch
8544			<schmorp> xach: ok.
8545			<Xach> schmorp: you are not keeping pace with the other germans
8546			<Xach> schmorp: you must work more diligently! FOCUS!! DON'T TALK!!
8547			<Xach> burrito, focus
8548			<Burrito> FOCUS you BABOON!
8549	root	1.387	%
8550	root	1.1	[Paul Miller]
8551			... I find Knuth's attitude to be far more logical: "Be careful about
8552			using the following code -- I've only proven that it works, I haven't
8553			tested it." ...
8554	root	1.387	%
8555	root	1.1	Intel Inside -- Idiot Outside!
8556	root	1.387	%
8557	root	1.1	Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
8558
8559			Bart Lateur wrote in message <383a4712.942513@news.skynet.be>...
8560			>Petrus Prawirodidjojo wrote:
8561			>
8562			>>So we must compete with Windows CE.
8563			>
8564			>"Please wait while your Toaster shuts down."
8565			>
8566			>"My microwave oven hangs, I have to reboot."
8567			>
8568			>No thank you. :-) I don't think Microsoft somehow can "automatically" be
8569			>the most obvious choice as a supplier of system software for embedded
8570			>systems.
8571
8572
8573			Quite so. Windows CE is rapidly losing what small market share they once
8574			had.
8575
8576			--
8577			Neal Bridges
8578	root	1.387	%
8579	root	1.1	On 27 Nov 1999, sanjay Kumar wrote:
8580
8581			> Hi folks,
8582			> i got some problem in using linux.When segmentation fault happens four five times continously OS is not working properly,insted of I remove the core dump and core dump bug ,Why?
8583			> please reply to
8584			> sanjay_rect@rediffmail.com
8585			> and sigma_btl@vsnl.com
8586
8587			Parse error.
8588
8589			---
8590			Alex
8591	root	1.387	%
8592	root	1.1	From: Richard Earnshaw <rearnsha@arm.com>
8593
8594			> Why do we really need to support compiling with -ansi when
8595			> including a non-ANSI header file in a C program?
8596
8597			Because some vendors wouldn't recognize a C standard it if hit them. The
8598			amount of code that purports to be ANSI C code, but is in fact nothing of
8599			the sort, has to be seen to be believed.
8600
8601			That doesn't mean that I don't want my program to be clean ANSI C.
8602	root	1.387	%
8603	root	1.1	[one of the few good us movies]
8604	root	1.388	Talk Radio Mediendrama - USA - 1988 - Regie: Oliver Stone * Sein Zynismus wird dem Radiomoderator Barry zum Verhängnis.
8605	root	1.387	%
8606	root	1.1	[guess the language AND the language revision ;)]
8607			ii = 44;
8608			p = &ii;
8609			p = ii/p;
8610			ii++; /* Don't forget to increment ii. */
8611			printf ( "ii = %d\n", *p );
8612	root	1.387	%
8613	root	1.1	> But many systems set the RTC while running Win*ooze. That will affect
8614			> Linux time then.
8615
8616			Here is another microsoft Innovation (TM):
8617
8618			They now allow you to run your BIOS-clock in UTC! (Just like
8619			Linux. Woops. Just gave it away...)
8620
8621			Roger.
8622	root	1.387	%
8623	root	1.1	<Tommer> schmorp, for the next trick, do <frameset> <frame src=dataurl:> <frame src=dataurl:> </frameset> :)
8624	root	1.387	%
8625	root	1.1	auto accident;
8626			register voters;
8627			static electricity;
8628			struct by_lightning;
8629			void *where_prohibited;
8630			char broiled;
8631			short circuit;
8632			short changed;
8633			long johns;
8634			unsigned long letter;
8635			double entendre;
8636			double trouble;
8637			union organizer;
8638			float valve;
8639			short pants;
8640			union station;
8641			void check; unsigned check;
8642			struct dumb by[sizeof member];
8643	root	1.387	%
8644	root	1.1	[I like TV Movie's nexTView comments]
8645			22:40-00:05 (21) ( -34) ARD Mord auf hoher See Inflammable Thriller - USA
8646			- 1995 - Regie: Peter Werner * Stephen King
8647	root	1.388	verhunzt als Regisseur sein Buch im großen Stil.
8648	root	1.387	%
8649	root	1.1	Carmen Lucia Tancredo Borges wrote:
8650
8651			I have a program written in Fortran that runs on an IBM RS/6000
8652			worstation.
8653	root	1.387	%
8654	root	1.1	I wrote
8655			> I hope not. chomp() should match the string in $?, no more or less.
8656			$/
8657
8658			Damn shift key.
8659
8660
8661			Mike Guy
8662	root	1.387	%
8663	root	1.1	[rfc2635]
8664			The term "spam" as it is used to denote mass unsolicited mailings or
8665			netnews postings is derived from a Monty Python sketch set in a
8666			movie/tv studio cafeteria. During that sketch, the word "spam" takes
8667			over each item offered on the menu until the entire dialogue consists
8668			of nothing but "spam spam spam spam spam spam and spam." This so
8669			closely resembles what happens when mass unsolicited mail and posts
8670			take over mailing lists and netnews groups that the term has been
8671			pushed into common usage in the Internet community.
8672	root	1.387	%
8673	root	1.1	[CRYPTO-GRAM, November 15, 1999]
8674
8675			The Doghouse: Microsoft Windows CE
8676
8677			Microsoft encrypts your Windows NT password when stored on a Windows CE
8678			device. But if you look carefully at their encryption algorithm, they
8679			simply XOR the password with "susageP", Pegasus spelled backwards. Pegasus
8680			is the code name of Windows CE. This is so pathetic it's staggering.
8681
8682			http://www.cegadgets.com/artsusageP.htm
8683	root	1.387	%
8684	root	1.1	: Isn't the point that (void)'grep EXPR, LIST' is now better written as
8685			: 'EXPR for LIST'? Or am I misunderstanding your point here?
8686
8687			It really doesn't bother me if people want to use grep or map in a void
8688			context. It didn't bother me before there was a for modifier, and
8689			now that there is one, it still doesn't bother me. I'm just not very
8690			easy to bother.
8691
8692			The argument against using an operator for other than its primary
8693			purpose strikes me the same as the old argument that you shouldn't have
8694			sex for other than procreational purposes. Sometimes side effects
8695			are more enjoyable than the originally intended effect.
8696
8697			That being said, I'd never grep someone in a void context myself.
8698
8699			Larry
8700	root	1.387	%
8701	root	1.1	[that one's only for insiders...]
8702			> : BASE @ . \ = 10, verified original base was restored
8703			Yeah. :-)
8704	root	1.387	%
8705	root	1.1	[comp.lang.forth]
8706			> Old Antactic Explorers Penguin Recipe:
8707			[...]
8708			> Start fire under pot, raise seawater to boiling point.
8709
8710			Since it is very difficult to find wood on Antarctica, typically
8711			penguins are used to light the fire (due to their fat, they burn well).
8712			I also woudln't use any water, the penguins are fried fine in their own
8713			fat (you can use old fat to heat up the pot for another penguin).
8714
8715			Note that most people in Antarctica have been seal-slayers and
8716			whale-killers, so they were rough people. Usually, they didn't bother
8717			with killing the penguins before setting them on fire. I'm glad this
8718			receipts aren't used anymore.
8719	root	1.387	%
8720	root	1.1	Sie muessen einen PC nicht einschalten um herauszufinden ob Windows
8721			installiert ist. Sehen Sie einfach nach, ob die Aufschrift auf der
8722			Reset-Taste noch lesbar ist.
8723	root	1.387	%
8724	root	1.1	> Erinnert mich an den Kerl bei mir in der Videothek. Hab mir DHY ausgeliehen
8725			> und er sagt doch zu mir: "Ist aber mit Untertiteln." Sag ich: "Na prima!"
8726			> Fragt er: "Wieso, was ist denn daran so interessant, wenn man nichts
8727			> versteht?"
8728	root	1.387	%
8729	root	1.1	[de.alt.anime]
8730			Bei meiner Videothek fliegt ein "Ghost in the Shell" Tape
8731			"Ab18" rum. Das machte mich irgendwie stutzig weil auf
8732			der Schachtel meiner 16er zwei Szenenfotos sind, die im
8733	root	1.388	Film gar nicht vorkommen (ironischer Weise direkt über
8734	root	1.1	dem "Uncut & Unzesored" Schildchen). Andererseits ist
8735	root	1.388	mir völlig schleierhaft, was es bei dem Filmchen zu zensieren
8736	root	1.1	geben soll. Nur die oben beschriebene Feststellung hat diese
8737			Frage erneut aufgeworfen.
8738			ji!
8739	root	1.387	%
8740	root	1.1	I do worry about syntactic clutter, ever since my daughter came
8741			in, looked over my shoulder, and said, "What is that, swearing?"
8742			[Larry Wall]
8743	root	1.387	%
8744	root	1.1	Der letzte untergegangene altisraelitische Stamm war der der
8745			Altpreussen.
8746			- Norbert Marzahn am 15.8.98 in
8747			de.soc.politik.deutschland
8748	root	1.387	%
8749	root	1.1	> > Aber die Theorien, die Norbert aufstellt, ueber zum Beispiel die
8750			> > gegossenen Steinformen, die sich hochdruecken, den fuerchterlichen
8751			> > Kometen, der im vergangenen August die Erde zerstoert hat und solche
8752			> > Sachen find ich wirklich Klasse ;-)
8753			>
8754	root	1.388	> Jau. Und erstmal seine Erklärungsversuche, wenn's mal wieder nichts
8755			> geworden ist (wo bleibt eigentlich der Planet X, der während der
8756	root	1.1	> Syonnenfinsternis auftauchen sollte?)...
8757
8758	root	1.388	Drei Tage Dunkelheit und viele Trümmerteile sollte er bringen, gell,
8759	root	1.1	Norbert?
8760	root	1.387	%
8761	root	1.208	Marzahnismen: http://www.bruhaha.de/normarz.html
8762	root	1.1	Norbert Marzahn sagt: Ich besitze die Mittel, um
8763			"Rechts"- und "Links"-Radikalismus auszuloeschen.
8764	root	1.387	%
8765	root	1.1	http://welcome.to/levitenbuero/
8766	root	1.387	%
8767	root	1.1	<Xach> babelfish.pitney.org: "We may not get it right, but boy are we fast!"
8768	root	1.387	%
8769	root	1.1	Subject: GNU compiler
8770			From: "Steve"
8771			Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:05:03 -0400
8772			To: <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
8773			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0
8774
8775			[the following was a single line, of course]
8776			I downloaded the compiler and am trying to install it and the
8777			instructions seem to be very complicated. Can you help me understand
8778			how to install them? There is no setup file and I have downloaded from
8779			several sites in the thought that I might have the wrong version. Your
8780			assistance would be greatly appreciated
8781
8782			Thanks,
8783
8784			Steve
8785	root	1.387	%
8786	root	1.1	[an "I am doing high end graphic design" type of person:]
8787			> Also, could someone tell me how to calculate DPI of an image? I have not
8788			> managed to figure this DPI system out, for example, if an image is a
8789			> 100?50 pixels, what's the DPI??
8790	root	1.387	%
8791	root	1.1	<tigert> xachbot, op
8792			<XachBot> tigert: I have an 88 magnum. It shoots through schools.
8793			<tigert> ahem
8794	root	1.387	%
8795	root	1.1	<tc> xachbot, acro FOOBAR
8796			-XachBot:#gimp- FOOBAR: FTP Operation Over Big Address Records \| See FUBAR [Net jargon] (cached)
8797			<tc> just when you thought you had something to baffle xachbot
8798	root	1.387	%
8799	root	1.1	[the release of perl 5.000]
8800			Date: Mon, 17 Oct 94 16:48:04 -0700
8801			From: Larry Wall <lwall@scalpel.netlabs.com>
8802			Subject: It's soup.
8803
8804			Okay, it's there.
8805
8806			ftp://ftp.netlabs.com/pub/outgoing/perl5.0/perl5.000.tar.gz
8807
8808			The first one who tells me about a bug in it gets shot.
8809
8810			Larry
8811	root	1.387	%
8812	root	1.1	l33+ h4X0rz
8813	root	1.387	%
8814	root	1.1	# A random text generator using Markov chains
8815			perl -e 'while(<>){$f.= $_}@l=split(/\s+/, $f);for($i=0;$i<@l-1;$i++){$W{$l[$i]
8816			}.=" ".$l[$i+1];}sub a{$w=$l[1]}&a;sub b{print "\n"}while($w){if(!($W{$w})){&b;
8817			&b;&a;last if ($q++>3);}print"$w ";@p=split(/ /,$W{$w});$c=@p;until($s=int(rand
8818			($c))){1}$w=$p[$s]}&b' big_text_file
8819	root	1.387	%
8820	root	1.1	> && d'oh! i knew that! can she allow her lusers to use deja? here is the url
8821			> && for the post with the whole description of how i used -P
8822			>
8823			> Well, access to deja isn't forbidden, but access to the keyboard is.
8824			> And there's no mouse.
8825			>
8826			> Abigail
8827
8828			Wow. Someone else who reads usenet by osmosis... cool.
8829
8830			Matt.
8831	root	1.387	%
8832	root	1.1	Ok, our threads aren't so bad. Python's have one big
8833			giant global interpreter lock. :-)
8834
8835			- --tom
8836	root	1.387	%
8837	root	1.1	From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
8838			Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:42:19 -0700 (PDT)
8839
8840			On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Hubert Mantel wrote:
8841			>
8842			> So the huge ISDN update in proposed-2.2.11 will be removed from the final
8843			> 2.2.11 release?
8844
8845			[ Irritated mode: FULL BLAST ]
8846
8847			Are you being stupid on purpose, or were you born that way?
8848
8849			Go back and read the thread. Read why I'm irritated. READ. THINK.
8850	root	1.387	%
8851	root	1.1	Understanding is a three edged sword. Do you want to get the point?
8852	root	1.387	%
8853	root	1.1	["MVS uses quite heavy algorithms for swapping"]
8854			On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 07:55:32PM +0200, Lieven Marchand wrote:
8855			> Last time I looked at it, it got to the point they had moved some
8856			> ASSISTs into microcode. IIRC, some manipulations of the process
8857			> block. I doubt Intel/Sun/MIPS/IBM is going to accomodate Linux quite
8858			> that much ;-)
8859
8860			IBM is really really good on process technology. They have had to be.
8861	root	1.387	%
8862	root	1.1	MVS spends a lot of time running OS algorithms to allow full
8863			preemption that Linux wastes on running user applications.
8864	root	1.387	%
8865	root	1.1	[comments on the gcc-2.95 release]
8866			<QUOTE>
8867			I'm having problems compiling it for HP-UX 10.20. Any ideas?
8868
8869			(I haven't actually finished downloading it yet, but I just know I'm
8870			gonna have problems with this crappy OS ;-)
8871			</QUOTE>
8872	root	1.387	%
8873	root	1.1	The Internet interprets Windows as damage,
8874			and routes around it.
8875
8876			Roger Larsson
8877	root	1.388	Skellefteå
8878	root	1.387	%
8879	root	1.1	[configuring gcc]
8880			Noone should use --prefix=/usr without --with-local-prefix=/usr/local
8881	root	1.387	%
8882	root	1.1	'You can solve any programming problem with another level of indirection,
8883			except the problem of too many levels of indirection.'
8884	root	1.387	%
8885	root	1.1	[http://www.itknowledge.com/tpj/issues/vol4_1/tpj0401-0015.html]
8886
8887			Z-code interpreters have also been written in Java; unfortunately, when it
8888			comes to cross-platform compatibility, Java's user-interface classes are
8889			finicky and unstable--just ask anyone who's tried to reason with the AWT
8890			on different JVMs.
8891
8892			[and later]
8893
8894			Pilfer is a practical implementation of two of the cardinal rules of
8895			adventure gaming:
8896
8897			1.Anything that is not nailed down is mine.
8898			2.Anything that I can pry loose is not nailed down.
8899	root	1.387	%
8900	root	1.1	[the \|\|-operator can be thought of as "or", && can be thought of as
8901			"and", but how would you call the ??-operator?]
8902
8903			>>>>> "NK" == Nathan Kurz <nate@valleytel.net> writes:
8904
8905			NK> ?? -> huh?
8906
8907			That's a great name. The huh? operator.
8908
8909			<chaim>
8910	root	1.387	%
8911	root	1.1	`One of the reasons we continue to use Fortran is that it's easier to fix
8912			code written without attention to such details in Fortran than in other
8913			languages. To put it another way, Fortran is the only language where
8914			people who barely get by with their numerical skills can "write useful
8915			numerical code." Many times those people are the only experts in their
8916			specialty available to put a needed procedure into practice.'
8917	root	1.387	%
8918	root	1.1	[Moderator der Sending "Teatime" auf "Radio Okerwelle", 1999-07-12]
8919	root	1.388	Ich muß schließlich hören was ich sage, damit ich weiß, was ich denke.
8920	root	1.387	%
8921	root	1.1	[Dr. Dobbs #8, 1999, describing how you can AVOID downloading or executing
8922			Java applets, scripts and ActiveX controls while _parsing_(!) an html
8923			page]
8924			... you must utilize IOleControl::OnAmbientPropertyChange with the
8925			value DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Before you can do this, however, you
8926			must call IOleObject::SetClientSite so that IOleControl will work
8927			properly. This is the reason you derive from IOleClientSite, even
8928			though you don't extend its functionality in any way. After the call to
8929			OnAmbientPropertyChange, IE4 will call your Invoke method to check the
8930			value of DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Invoke simply sets the correct bits to
8931			disable the behaviour you don't want and returns NOERROR.
8932			[Still interested in knowing how you can disable the "file not found"
8933			dialog box that will pop up when you try to parse a non-accessible file?]
8934	root	1.387	%
8935	root	1.1	[Linus, whom I quote rarely ;-]
8936			Message passing as the fundamental operation of the OS is just an
8937			excercise in computer science masturbation. It may feel good, but you
8938			don't actually get anything DONE.
8939	root	1.387	%
8940	root	1.1	Advantages of Windows NT over Linux:
8941			* It's easier to explain the crash was not your fault.
8942			* You've to remember only one solution all to your problems: Reboot.
8943			* You can use your mouse to type an email-message.
8944	root	1.387	%
8945	root	1.1	> 1) On the PIII, there is the capability to get a system unique serial
8946			> number from the CPU. Does Linux read this data already? Is there plans to
8947			> read the serial number and then disable the capability (maybe so you could
8948			> get the serial number from the OS)?
8949
8950			Current Linux disables it and doesn't save the value.
8951	root	1.387	%
8952	root	1.1	[CRYPTO-GRAM 1999-06-15]
8953			"Microsoft set the security state-of-the-art back 25 years with DOS, and
8954			they have continued that legacy to this day."
8955	root	1.387	%
8956	root	1.1	[From "The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature", by Thomas Scoville]
8957			"In a world increasingly dominated by image culture (TV, movies, .jpg
8958			files), UNIX remains rooted in the culture of the word."
8959	root	1.387	%
8960	root	1.1	> If it is clearly documented that will not happen.
8961
8962			Yeah, sure. Unfortunately, if the "correct" treatment of this feature
8963			means to change a dozen source files (and rth's comments make me fear
8964			that that's the case), the chance that someone, somewhere forgets to say
8965			exactly why these changes were necessary (and on what other changes in
8966			other files they depend) is far larger than I want to consider. We've
8967			seen this before. Lucky we are that some long time gcc-hackers are
8968			still among us, who might remark: Oh yes, that's undefined by the C
8969			Standard, but it happens to be an extension gcc supports ... Seen that,
8970			got the T-shirt.
8971	root	1.387	%
8972	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8973			From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
8974			Date: Fri, 4 Jun 99 10:00:16 PDT
8975			To: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
8976			Cc: craig@jcb-sc.com, jbuck@Synopsys.COM, mark@codesourcery.com,
8977			davem@redhat.com, chip@perlsupport.com, egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
8978			X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
8979
8980			Linus writes, to Craig:
8981
8982			> I haven't maintained a compiler long-term. I _have_ maintained a larger,
8983			> and arguably mode complex system with many more degrees of freedom and
8984			> thus choices than gcc.
8985
8986			No, gcc is substantially larger than the Linux kernel (on the order of 10x
8987			larger, as anyone can easily verify). gcc does not need to deal with race
8988			conditions, so in that sense it is simpler, but in other respects it is
8989			far more complex than the kernel.
8990
8991			[NOTE for the reader: this is not really true, as the device drivers
8992			bomb the comparison away, but the complexity argument still holds]
8993
8994			[ personal insults deleted, perhaps the author is in need of a vacation ]
8995	root	1.387	%
8996	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8997			From: craig@jcb-sc.com
8998			To: torvalds@transmeta.com
8999
9000			>I want the _user_ to be able to give input.
9001			[...]
9002			>I happen to think that the "explicit cast invalidates the alias
9003			>information" rule is the simplest and best one, and gives the user the
9004			>best control without adding things like new attributes or other ways to
9005			>let the user be in control.
9006
9007			In other words, you believe you are a better language designer than
9008			the ISO C people as well as the gcc maintainers, despite the fact
9009			that you know, what, nothing about language design, and nothing
9010			about compiler design and, especially, long-term maintenance of
9011			compilers?
9012	root	1.387	%
9013	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
9014			From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
9015
9016			Linus writes:
9017			> Oh, you don't expect me to complain about bad code generation when I know
9018			> gcc could do better?
9019
9020			Oh, don't worry, we expect you to complain, and in a rude and insulting
9021			matter at that. We're used to it. It seems that you were a nicer guy
9022			before you had so many worshippers.
9023	root	1.387	%
9024	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
9025			From: Branko Cibej <branko.cibej@hermes.si>
9026			Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:07:09 +0200
9027			To: egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
9028			X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I)
9029
9030			Linus Torvalds wrote:
9031
9032			> I think it's a damn shame that instead of technical arguments _everything_
9033			> revolves around people reading the standard as if it was the bible, and
9034			> trying to make people feel guilty for not really caring. It's not a sin to
9035			> just want to get good code without having to do magic contortions, guys.
9036
9037			Why, Linus, it's trivial to do! Use MSVC instead of egcs, then you can do
9038
9039			#pragma optimize("a", on/off)
9040
9041			around every single statement, if you like. It even supports anonymous unions
9042			_and_ structs, and is only slightly influenced by the ISO C standard.
9043
9044			They'll even sell you a version that can generate code for the alpha!
9045
9046			>:->
9047
9048			Brane
9049
9050
9051			P.S.: Just for the record: I, a "real user" and (imnsho) a "clever programmer"
9052			who "know what I'm doing", at least most of the time, and who do not "read the
9053			standard as if it were a bible", vote for having a standard-conforming
9054			compiler that's not bloated by a ton of marginally useful (or even useless)
9055			features. If I want featuritis, I know where I can get it.
9056
9057
9058			P.P.S: They can't even spell "optimise" ...
9059	root	1.387	%
9060	root	1.1	You can have it Soon, Cheap, and Working; choose two
9061	root	1.387	%
9062	root	1.1	"Scientific" studies have found that a 2.2.x Linux router with
9063			fast-switching enabled, using Tulip 100baseT cards, can melt a
9064			high-end Cisco's 100baseT interfaces.
9065	root	1.387	%
9066	root	1.1	1) Thread switching is faster than process switching by a little bit on Linux
9067			2) Process switching on linux is faster than thread switching on NT
9068			3) Almost anything is faster than process switching on NT
9069	root	1.387	%
9070	root	1.1	[gimp-developers, on the use of keyboard modifiers for drawing tools]
9071
9072			> Simple. Powerful. Fast. Choose at most two.
9073
9074			Perhaps this should be an option in the preferences dialog? :)
9075	root	1.387	%
9076	root	1.1	[perl is cryptic??]
9077			Subject: @{$${->{{{{~{}~{{{NO CARRIER
9078			From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@iki.fi>
9079			Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:55:37 +0300 (EET DST)
9080
9081			We have still a long way to go-- from the zsh-workers mailing list:
9082
9083			: Just thought of a trivial way to take a lot of grief out of parameter
9084			: substitution. This patch makes the following valid:
9085			:
9086			: ${${${${(f)"$(typeset)"}:#local \=}%%\=}##* }
9087			:
9088			: replacing the equivalent but grotesquer
9089			:
9090			: "${(@)${(@)${(@)${(@f)$(typeset)}:#local \=}%%\=}##* }"
9091	root	1.387	%
9092	root	1.1	Long noun chains don't automatically imply security. - Bruce Schneier
9093	root	1.387	%
9094	root	1.1	> \|> Spoken as a true C programmer. However you are wrong. Case-preserving, but
9095			> \|> insensitive, is the CORRECT way for file systems. Capitalization should not
9096			> \|> matter for interpretation of a file name just as it doesn't matter for
9097			> \|> interpreting words in any human language.
9098			>
9099			> This is wrong. In German, there is a big difference between "paar" und
9100			> "Paar" (the first meaning "a few", the second "pair").
9101
9102			The classic example:
9103
9104			"Ich habe liebe Genossen in Moskau" - I've got dead comreds in Moscow.
9105			"Ich habe Liebe genossen in Moskau" - I enjoyed love in Moscow.
9106	root	1.387	%
9107	root	1.1	[do we need oo-style IO::File class in perl?]
9108			>_You_ aren't gonna code "use IO::File".
9109
9110			And there's no reason for anyone else to, either, especially
9111			once Nick finishes the Larry-blessed autovivification of
9112			lvaluabled undefs in open(), socket(), etc.
9113
9114			What's next, a String class for Perl?
9115
9116			--tom
9117	root	1.387	%
9118	root	1.1	[some example of the kind of mail I sometimes receive:]
9119			i was just trying to help u out not hurt you in anyway ok i have the fbi
9120			working on something for me
9121			u havent done anything to me ok and the sherriffs department came by to talk
9122			to me nutting concerning y ok
9123			piece
9124			russ
9125	root	1.387	%
9126	root	1.1	[From "Basic Information about Unix", common commands:]
9127
9128			pico (text editor for beginners)
9129			vi (text editor for advanced users)
9130			emacs (text editor for advanced users)
9131			ed (text editor for beginners)
9132	root	1.387	%
9133	root	1.1	There is no reason in principle that a Perl script shouldn't start with
9134
9135			use Python;
9136
9137			and appear to work exactly like Python from there to the end of the file.
9138			Except maybe faster. :-)
9139
9140			Larry
9141	root	1.387	%
9142	root	1.1	> Perl6 gives us an opportunity to re-examine every feature at a microscopic level.
9143
9144			just what I'm afraid of... I thought this was to be Perl6, not Perl
9145			2010.
9146
9147			(Perl 2010: The Spaced Oddity?)
9148	root	1.387	%
9149	root	1.1	The X.25 specification is not a particularly easy document to
9150			read. Contrary to expectations, it does not make great use of diagrams
9151			and tables that help to explain the workings of the protocols that
9152			it contains. Instead the document makes use of many ambiguous English
9153			descriptions of the actions that should take place, allied with a complete
9154			lack of fluency in its prose descriptions, make for a very confusing
9155			document. It is a wonder that any correct X.25 implementations have ever
9156			been created.
9157	root	1.387	%
9158	root	1.1	> Joe: (walking into McDonalds) Hi, I'd like a Big Mac.
9159			>
9160			> Cashier: Okay, here's your Big Mac and here's your Coke. That'll be
9161			> $3.99.
9162			>
9163			> Joe: Uh, I don't want a Coke.
9164			>
9165			> Cashier: Sorry, they're bundled.
9166			>
9167			> Joe: What? I'm not paying for a Coke!
9168			>
9169			> Cashier: You don't; the Coke is free.
9170			>
9171			> Joe: But wasn't a Big Mac $2.49 last week?
9172			>
9173			> Cashier: Sure, but this latest Big Mac is far more innovative. It's
9174			> got integrated Coke!
9175			>
9176			> Joe: I already bought a Snapple across the street... I'm not going
9177			> to drink the Coke.
9178			>
9179			> Cashier: Then you can't have the burger.
9180			>
9181			> Joe: Okay, fine, I will pay the $3.99 and throw the Coke away.
9182			>
9183			> Cashier: Oh, you can't do that. They're seamlessly integrated. Totally
9184			> inseparable.
9185			>
9186			> Joe: How can that be? They're two totally separate things!
9187			>
9188			> Cashier: No, watch. (takes Big Mac, dunks it in a tank of Coke) See?
9189			>
9190			> Joe: Why did you just do that?!
9191			>
9192			> Cashier: It's a benefit to the consumer. Otherwise you'd end up with
9193			> two different, inconsistent tastes. This way you're assured of a
9194			> continuous taste across all your foods.
9195	root	1.387	%
9196	root	1.1	Threads are like salt. I like salt, you like salt, we all
9197			like salt, but we eat more pasta than salt.
9198	root	1.40	Rob Pike
9199	root	1.387	%
9200	root	1.1	From: Nathan Torkington <gnat@frii.com>
9201
9202			Don't be bitten by Perl, get crushed by Python.
9203			Python: Perl for the punctuation-phobic.
9204			It takes 4 days for a python to digest a hamster, but only 2 days
9205			for you to digest this book.
9206			Python: it's really better but nobody uses it.
9207			Python: just for the whitespace of it.
9208			Join The Trickle
9209			Python: more popular than Dylan!
9210			Python: not written by crackheads in a gutter!
9211			Are you uptight? Try our new Python Hangups series.
9212	root	1.387	%
9213	root	1.1	Well Microsoft announced this new language called COOL which I can
9214			honestly say that I have seen NO CRAPPY CODE written in. OTOH it appears
9215			that to achieve this miraculous status by the simple technique of being
9216			complete and utter vapourware.
9217
9218			Microsoft, taking the Business out of COBOL.
9219	root	1.387	%
9220	root	1.1	[From "Programming Perl"]
9221
9222			We will encourage you to develop the three great virtues of a
9223			programmer: laziness, impatience and hubris
9224	root	1.387	%
9225	root	1.1	[Alexander Stepanov, creator of the STL]:
9226
9227			Yes. STL is not object oriented. I think that object orientedness is
9228			almost as much of a hoax as Artificial Intelligence. I have yet to
9229			see an interesting piece of code that comes from these OO people. In
9230			a sense, I am unfair to AI: I learned a lot of stuff from the MIT AI
9231			Lab crowd, they have done some really fundamental work: Bill Gosper's
9232			Hakmem is one of the best things for a programmer to read. AI might
9233			not have had a serious foundation, but it produced Gosper and Stallman
9234			(Emacs), Moses (Macsyma) and Sussman (Scheme, together with Guy Steele). I
9235			find OOP technically unsound. It attempts to decompose the world in
9236			terms of interfaces that vary on a single type. To deal with the real
9237			problems you need multisorted algebras - families of interfaces that
9238			span multiple types. I find OOP philosophically unsound. It claims that
9239			everything is an object. Even if it is true it is not very interesting -
9240			saying that everything is an object is saying nothing at all. I find OOP
9241			methodologically wrong. It starts with classes. It is as if mathematicians
9242			would start with axioms. You do not start with axioms - you start with
9243			proofs. Only when you have found a bunch of related proofs, can you
9244			come up with axioms. You end with axioms. The same thing is true in
9245			programming: you have to start with interesting algorithms. Only when you
9246			understand them well, can you come up with an interface that will let them
9247			work.
9248			[...]
9249			You can't write a generic max() in Java that takes two arguments of some
9250			type and has a return value of that same type. Inheritance and interfaces
9251			don't help. And if they cannot implement max or swap or linear search,
9252			what chances do they have to implement really complex stuff? These are my
9253			litmus tests: if a language allows me to implement max and swap and linear
9254			search generically - then it has some potential.
9255			[...] Java is clearly an example of a money oriented programming (MOP).
9256			It might be successful - after all, MS DOS was - and it might be a
9257			profitable thing for all your readers to learn Java, but it has no
9258			intellectual value whatsoever.
9259
9260			[Later, on OMG protocols like CORBA]
9261			I am old enough to remember all the networking standards that were coming
9262			out in the seventies. Who remembers them now?
9263	root	1.387	%
9264	root	1.1	[Stiftung Warentest "test", WDR 19990419:]
9265	root	1.388	"Schlechtes muß nicht billig sein..."
9266	root	1.387	%
9267	root	1.1	[/bin/false on solaris]
9268			#!/usr/bin/sh
9269			# Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
9270			# All Rights Reserved
9271
9272			# THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
9273			# The copyright notice above does not evidence any
9274			# actual or intended publication of such source code.
9275
9276			#ident "@(#)false.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.3 */
9277			[obvious invocation of exit snipped to avoid lawsuit. Yup, 1 line.]
9278	root	1.387	%
9279	root	1.1	<Aspirin> but ee uses imlib, and imlib is documented to take 4.7 days to start up on a 486 by Alan Cox.
9280	root	1.387	%
9281	root	1.1	When a tar built for SunOS runs under Solaris, it's incapable of opening
9282			or creating files with "lib/locale" in the path. It replaces that part of
9283			the path with "lib/oldlocale".
9284	root	1.387	%
9285	root	1.1	[Bruce Schneier in CRYPTO-GRAM, 19990315]
9286
9287			"Microsoft prefers to treat security holes as a public relations problem,
9288			rather than fixing the actual problem."
9289
9290			[further down: the official answer from Microsoft about a problem where
9291			just viewing a website would invisibly run unrestricted code on your
9292			machine]
9293
9294			"Microsoft appreciates your input regarding this issue, however in lieu
9295			of modern technology being what it is, we all need to be personally
9296			responsible for knowing what we are downloading off the internet."
9297
9298			[see http://www.panix.com/~dfoster/sec/chrono.html]
9299	root	1.387	%
9300	root	1.1	[Steve Funston wrote to me, after I unsubscribed him from gimp-perl for
9301			spamming:]
9302
9303			>fuck you ass hole duh you are just a big fucker
9304			>>
9305			>>An error was generated by your request to our servers:
9306			>>------------------------------------------------------
9307			>>
9308			>>Your Email: bfunston@mich.com
9309			>>
9310			>>ERROR: You are not a member of this list.
9311
9312			[and later, misquoting my name:]
9313			>mark is not only a big fat liar but he is an ass hole.
9314	root	1.387	%
9315	root	1.1	[How much of the microsoft shares does Bill Gates hold?]
9316			He has 19.8%. Paul Allen has 5.5%. Steve Ballmer has 4.7%.
9317	root	1.387	%
9318	root	1.1	> And what's wrong with being named Peter?
9319			If linus was peter, Linux would be called penix? (just guessing) ;)
9320	root	1.387	%
9321	root	1.1	According to Microsoft KnowledgeBase article Q216641, Microsoft Windows
9322			95/98 are limited to an uptime of exactly 49.7 days.
9323
9324			--found by Vincent Janelle (Random)
9325	root	1.387	%
9326	root	1.1	> Leave that to RMS.
9327
9328			If you had just sat through the horrific panel with Larry,
9329			RMS, Richard, and Linus, you would want to leave a whole lot
9330			else to RMS -- like a couple of megatons of the manure that
9331			he's full of.
9332
9333			Support BSD/Linux.
9334
9335			--tom
9336	root	1.387	%
9337	root	1.1	"The FSF is a cult -- don't support them." --Rob Pike
9338	root	1.387	%
9339	root	1.1	We are Linux. Resistance is an indication that you missed the point.
9340	root	1.387	%
9341	root	1.1	> Perhaps the cracker himself (itself? ;) isn't bright enough to delete shell
9342			> history, but his shrink-wrapped cracking tools might be a lot brighter...
9343
9344			Some of them are. A surprising number aren't. A personal favorite of
9345			mine was the log from a cracker who couldn't figure out how to untar
9346			and install the trojan package he'd ftped onto the machine. he tried a
9347			few times, and then eventually gave up and logged out.
9348	root	1.387	%
9349	root	1.1	[on channel #gimp]
9350
9351			[msg(Xachbot)] insult me
9352			[XachBot(xachbot@home.xach.com)] schmorp: David Miller would never approve of that.
9353	root	1.387	%
9354	root	1.1	[the creation]
9355			http://www.toodarkpark.org/caffeine-cgi-bin/textfile/net-hx.txt
9356	root	1.387	%
9357	root	1.1	THE LESSER-KNOWN PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES #12: LITHP
9358
9359			This otherwise unremarkable language is distinguished by the absence of
9360			an "S" in its character set; users must substitute "TH". LITHP is said
9361			to be useful in protheththing lithtth.
9362	root	1.387	%
9363	root	1.1	Ich zog hier nur einen Pseudoschluss aus dieser sache, den ich nicht
9364			selbst schliesse.
9365			Norbert Harry Marzahn, selbsternannter "Judaaer"
9366			am 13.12.98 in de.alt.ufo
9367	root	1.387	%
9368	root	1.1	According to Gurusamy Sarathy:
9369			> "Resistance is futile, you will be modularized."
9370
9371			No:
9372
9373			use Borg;
9374			make_threat(-type => 'standard', -doom => 'modularized');
9375
9376			--
9377			Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
9378	root	1.387	%
9379	root	1.1	"And over here, ladies and gentlemen, may I draw your attention to
9380			the 'posicks box', a mechanism within one of the late 20th century
9381			sub-I hardware gestalt integration agents (then called 'operating
9382			systems', this particular one being referred to as 'windows' by
9383			its commercial-mimetic sustainer), designed so as to provide the
9384			appearance and functionality required to comply with one of the few
9385			agreed-upon integration schemas (sub-I, of course) available at the
9386			time. Unsurprising given the non-integration imperitives used by the
9387			agent's sustainter, this mechanism was demonstrated to be an ingenious
9388			non-integration ploy that, while supporting the integration schema,
9389			failed to support the local interconnect schemas that this agent
9390			specialized in. This produced a classic focus rift in the knowledge
9391			pool, benefiting the sustainer in the short run due to the focus
9392			concentration facilities available to commericial-class mimetic
9393			sustainers. Practically, this wasn't a significant loss, in the long
9394			run, as neither the 'windows' or 'posicks' schemas were relevant to
9395			modern quasi-I agents. These two do live on, however, in a few niches.
9396			'posicks' is used as the integration schema between most nano-scale
9397			logic units (a fact that only a few meta-experts still need to be
9398			aware of), and 'windows' survives, for religious-mimetic reasons, as
9399			the human-communication agent in a few stereotypical toasters and soap
9400			dispensers."
9401
9402			[Kenneth Albanowski]
9403	root	1.387	%
9404	root	1.1	Perl ist ein Schmerzmittel.
9405			Wenn Du bei der Speicherverwaltung oder der Stringverarbeitung
9406			unter C Schmerzen hast, nimm Perl.
9407			-- Kristian Koehntopp
9408	root	1.387	%
9409	root	1.1	> Why Windows NT Server 4.0 continues to exist in the enterprise would be a
9410			> topic appropriate for an investigative report in the field of psychology or
9411			> marketing, not an article on information technology -- John Kirch
9412	root	1.387	%
9413	root	1.388	[bei einer mündlichen Nachprüfung in BWL, Uni Hamburg]
9414	root	1.1
9415			Prof: "Was ist Agio?"
9416	root	1.388	Student: "Weiß ich nicht."
9417	root	1.1	Prof: "OK, durchgefallen!
9418	root	1.388	Student: "Ich habe aber Anspruch auf drei Fragen in der mündlichen Prüfung!"
9419	root	1.1	Prof: "Klar, was ist Disagio?"
9420			Student: "..."
9421			Prof: "...und was ist der Unterschied zwischen Agio und Disagio?"
9422			Student: "..."
9423			Prof: "...durchgefallen!"
9424	root	1.387	%
9425	root	1.1	Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@pobox.com> writes:
9426
9427			> Just morbid curiosity,
9428			>
9429			> Are there _any_ unix boxes that _can't_ build Perl?
9430
9431			Yes. Broken ones.
9432
9433			dgris
9434	root	1.387	%
9435	root	1.1	"The kerastion is a musical instrument which cannot be heard."
9436			-- A Borges story in ten words.
9437	root	1.387	%
9438	root	1.1	"C combines the power of assembly language
9439			with the flexibility of assembly language."
9440	root	1.387	%
9441	root	1.1	...
9442
9443			<AOL>
9444
9445			Me too!
9446
9447			</AOL>
9448
9449			Tig
9450	root	1.387	%
9451	root	1.1	ping -p 2b2b2b415448300d <hostname>
9452	root	1.387	%
9453	root	1.1	unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck;more;yes;umount;sleep
9454	root	1.387	%
9455	root	1.1	From: Dick Balaska <dick@buckosoft.com>
9456
9457			I sit behind an NT dual P2/400 256MB for too many hours each day. It is
9458			"slow". One of my (fun) tasks is CD mastering. When i'm loading a 500MB
9459			wav file into the editor, the machine goes useless for two minutes while
9460			loading the wave file. Basically its just reading the file and writing it
9461			to swap. The CPU is at 5%. No Alt-Tab between apps during that time. No
9462			chance of putting the mouse over a button (too many dropped ticks). The
9463			NT kernel is just sitting waiting for I/O completions.
9464
9465			Linux would be embarrassed to be that bad.
9466
9467			I expected M$ to never fix this because its not "broken". However, i
9468			expect billg to start reading the above mentioned literal benchmarks and
9469			get really really pissed.
9470
9471			Especially since i believe 1999 and 2000 to see Linux really start
9472			to cut into M$'s server market share.
9473	root	1.387	%
9474	root	1.1	> Hello I'm wondering if there's a lower traffic mailing list that exists
9475			> that's strictly important kernel announcements and not general chat. I
9476			> need to stay informed but I can't handle 250 messages in a 24 hour
9477			> period.
9478			>
9479			> Sorry for the insignificant post..
9480			> Nic
9481			>
9482
9483			Thank you for contributing to the problem.
9484
9485			-hpa
9486	root	1.387	%
9487	root	1.1	grep... grep... grep... (frog with unix stuck in his throat)
9488	root	1.387	%
9489	root	1.1	"If users are made to understand that the system administrator's job is to
9490			make computers run, and not to make them happy, they can, in fact, be made
9491			happy most of the time. If users are allowed to believe that the system
9492			administrator's job is to make them happy, they can, in fact, never be made
9493			happy."
9494			- - -Paul Evans (as quoted by Barb Dijker in "Managing Support Staff", LISA '97)
9495	root	1.387	%
9496	root	1.1	From: "Daniel P. Stasinski" <dannys@KAREMOR.COM>
9497			Subject: Microsoft Hotmail
9498			To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG
9499
9500			I contacted Microsoft/Hotmail asking them to close the account
9501			of that was listed in the backdoored tcp wrapper source code.
9502			I also forwarded the offending code.
9503
9504			The word back from them is that they will not close it. Theft
9505			of passwords and hacking does not violate thier terms of
9506			service.
9507
9508			Daniel
9509	root	1.387	%
9510	root	1.1	Any UNIX-killer must also have:
9511			...
9512			* cool name like Linux (serious, these fail: GNU Hurd FreeBSD 386BSD)
9513	root	1.387	%
9514	root	1.1	"Not all things worth doing are worth doing well."
9515			It's a phrase I use a lot. :-)
9516			[RJL]
9517	root	1.387	%
9518	root	1.1	As John Whittaker says: ``It's UNIX. That doesn't necessarily mean it's
9519			right.''
9520	root	1.387	%
9521	root	1.1	[Richard Stallman on the new _Pragma operator in C9X:]
9522
9523			Amazing--they actually listened.
9524	root	1.387	%
9525	root	1.1	That "UNIX" term is very negative. People often associate it with
9526			SCO OpenServer, Wyse terminals, and 60 people on a 386. The UNIX
9527			that people know is just awful. It looks something like this:
9528
9529			# less foo
9530			sh: command not found
9531			# more foo
9532			sh: command not found
9533			# emacs foo
9534			sh: command not found
9535			# ed foo
9536			0
9537			help
9538			?
9539			quit
9540			?
9541			exit
9542			?
9543			DIE!!!!!!!!!!
9544			?
9545
9546			[Albert D. Cahalan]
9547	root	1.387	%
9548	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Stop blib warning in future releases?
9549			From: andreas.koenig@anima.de (Andreas J. Koenig)
9550			Date: 05 Jan 1999 03:15:37 +0100
9551
9552			tim> Sure. Strictly speaking
9553
9554			tim> use blib ':quiet';
9555
9556			tim> would be most correct in style.
9557
9558			Only German native speakers are allowed to treat adverbs adjectively.
9559			For the rest I'd recommend [...]
9560	root	1.387	%
9561	root	1.1	[A new U.S. Law implementing a WIPO treaty]
9562			No person shall circumvent a technological protection measure that
9563			effectively controls access to a work protected under this title
9564			[Or, in other words, applied cryptanalysis will be illegal.
9565			too bad --- ]
9566	root	1.387	%
9567	root	1.1	Microsoft - Is it going to work today?
9568	root	1.387	%
9569	root	1.1	Subject: Re: [gimp-devel] GIF plugin legal issues
9570
9571			> Actually, my understanding is that Unisys doesn't currently enforce the
9572			> licensing cost on free software, but maybe I am mistaken.
9573
9574			The general wording, spoken by an unnamed GIMP developer, is, if you'll
9575			pardon the language, "Unisys can go fuck itself."
9576	root	1.387	%
9577	root	1.1	[once on linux-kernel:]
9578			> >who are you why on yahoo when iprint sf16fmi i fond you i need drv
9579			> Does anyone have the secret decoder ring to make sense of this?
9580			he's confused about us showing up in a search match on yahoo, but needs
9581			driver(s) for his sf16fmi thingy.
9582	root	1.387	%
9583	root	1.1	> Did you try to compile kdeadmin from the CVS tree ?
9584
9585			No I ran the KDE binaries. Im not interested in broken programs that
9586			include wrong #include files in their source.
9587	root	1.387	%
9588	root	1.1	[unix-faq]
9589
9590			Someday, you are going to accidentally type something like
9591			"rm * .foo", and find you just deleted "" instead of ".foo".
9592			Consider it a rite of passage.
9593	root	1.387	%
9594	root	1.1	"There's one word that strikes fear into nuclear scientists..."
9595			"Oops."
9596			-- MST3K
9597	root	1.387	%
9598	root	1.1	Seems like 80-bit spills would be closer to IEEE, if not close enough to
9599			claim full support. Off-hand I'd say people would be happier with
9600			those numeric properties than with the current situation.
9601
9602			I'll think about the esoterica (probably break down and ask people here).
9603			It would certainly make gcc the most reliable x86 floating-point compiler
9604			I know. Sun's does something similar to -ffloat-store by default (gee,
9605			look at how fast that ultra is), and Microsoft's runs off the end of the
9606			stack at run-time . I don't know what Intel's does, so I'm not considering
9607			it. ;)
9608	root	1.387	%
9609	root	1.1	>I was using the localtime function to change time_t into it's various
9610			>human-readable parts. I noticed that $year gets returned as 98 and
9611			>not 1998. I tested a few different unices and got the same result.
9612			>This is expected behavior based on the examples I've seen and my own
9613			>testing. My question is how is this y2k compliant?
9614
9615			What part of your C library's documentation on localtime(3), the perlfunc
9616			documentation on the Perl localtime function, the perlfaq4 entry on `Does
9617			Perl have a year 2000 problem?', and the Y2K document on www.perl.com
9618			did you find to be unclear on the answer to this question?
9619
9620			--tom
9621	root	1.387	%
9622	root	1.1	> * Have you ever wondered how life began ?
9623
9624			In a laboratory somewhere at Bell Labs.
9625
9626			>Why does it end ?
9627
9628			Ask the X3J11 committee.
9629
9630			> * Can you tell WHY there is life ? What is the purpose of it ?
9631			> * Can YOU do anything to make your life worth living ? WHAT ?
9632
9633			To promote the the DEATH OF ANSI C! K+R FOREVER! DOWN WITH PORTABILITY!
9634	root	1.387	%
9635	root	1.1	"Unix is Perl's IDE!"
9636			-- Tom Christiansen
9637	root	1.387	%
9638	root	1.1	[Sputnik]
9639
9640			Do you honestly think the Americans would mention a Soviet success? :-)
9641			A number of years back I saw an exhibition in the US on the development of
9642			supersonic passenger aircraft. They forgot to mention Concorde. It
9643			wouldn't surprise me in the least if most people at NASA had never heard
9644			of Sputnik.
9645	root	1.387	%
9646	root	1.1	NTFS by default adds unnecessary serialization to an extent that
9647			even older file systems such as FFS do not, and its performance
9648			characteristics reflect that. In fairness, it should be said that it is
9649			the superior approach for most removable media without software control
9650			of ejection (e.g. IBM PC floppies).
9651	root	1.387	%
9652	root	1.1	Never attribute to malice what could as well be explained by stupidity.
9653			- Hanlons razor -
9654	root	1.387	%
9655	root	1.1	Shallit's Razor: Never attribute to conspiracy what may be adequately
9656			explained by stupidity or incompetence.
9657	root	1.387	%
9658	root	1.1	According to Chris Nandor:
9659			> I thought about creating a web interface to input, edit, delete entries,
9660			> but that would have taken me longer, been more complex and less secure, and
9661			> offered no significant advantages.
9662
9663			That one's in the quotes file. Thanks.
9664	root	1.387	%
9665	root	1.1	My friend who had a Compaq called one day when his built-in cdrom drive
9666			stopped responding. Their answer "its a virus. Reinstal Windows". So he did
9667			(?) and it still didn't work. He called them and they said "its a virus,
9668			reinstall." "But I just installed. If there is a virus, it came from YOUR
9669			quick restore disk." "No, no virus there, but you DO have a virus. My paper
9670			in front of me says so."
9671
9672			He took it back and bought a Gateway.
9673	root	1.387	%
9674	root	1.1	9. Deinde, ne in posterum a XII kalendas aprilis aequinoctium recedat,
9675			statuimus bissextum quarto quoque anno (uti mos est) continuari debere,
9676			praeterquam in centesimis annis; qui, quamvis bissextiles antea semper
9677			fuerint, qualem etiam esse volumus annum MDC, post eum tamen qui
9678			deinceps consequentur centesimi non omnes bissextiles sint, sed in
9679			quadringentis quibusque annis primi quique tres centesimi sine bissexto
9680			transigantur, quartus vero quisque centesimus bissextilis sit, ita ut
9681			annus MDCC, MDCCC, MDCCCC bissextiles non sint. Anno vero MM, more
9682			consueto dies bissextus intercaletur, februario dies XXIX continente,
9683			idemque ordo intermittendi intercalandique bissextum diem in
9684			quadringentis quibusque annis perpetuo conservetur.
9685	root	1.387	%
9686	root	1.1	You obviously have not dealt with Microsoft Winnt 4.0
9687			and all the Service Pack then. While one Service Pack
9688			did somewhat correct the Y2K problem was not aware that
9689			2000 was in fact a leap year. There was no way to set
9690			the date to Feb 29, 2000.
9691	root	1.387	%
9692	root	1.1	"Ernst Lehmann, die Organisationsredundanz beim Cluster-Treffen"
9693	root	1.387	%
9694	root	1.388	HP Computer NEWS 3/98 about HP 2000/CN printer (page 24): "Darüber
9695	root	1.1	hinaus ... hat der HP 2000C/CN durch den Einsatz von Intel MMX-
9696			Technologie Zugriff auf deren Farbtabellen und kann so Farbbilder
9697			schneller verarbeiten" (A mistake made when translating. It's hard to
9698			get the wrong meaning if translated back to English, sorry.)
9699	root	1.387	%
9700	root	1.1	From: Robert Lipe
9701			> > I program computers with no screens and no keyboards for a living.
9702			> > Switches and front-panels are a LUXURY! :-)
9703			>
9704			> But I guess you are not _programming_ these computers without a keyboard
9705			> and/or screen.
9706
9707			Are you familiar with the Vulcan Mind Meld?
9708	root	1.387	%
9709	root	1.1	Subject: Re: [fwd from comp.lang.python] Re: Python 2 ideas [Re: access
9710			From: Tuomas Lukka <lukka@fas.harvard.edu>
9711
9712			On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
9713			> use pedantic;
9714			> use strict 'code';
9715			>
9716			> or whatever is the syntax to switch Perl into 'dull'/'pythonish' mode.
9717
9718			use syntax 'python';
9719
9720			Let's just embrace&extend'em ;) ;)
9721
9722	root	1.387	%
9723	root	1.1	Thus it was written in the epistle of Larry Wall,
9724			>
9725			> Having discussed all this thoroughly at the Hacker's Conference this
9726			> past weekend, I've come to the conclusion that Y2K will be traumatic
9727			> primarily because people think it will be traumatic. A panic is a
9728			> panic whether or not it's justified. People get trampled in panics.
9729			>
9730			> It should be illegal to yell "Y2K" in a crowded economy. :-)
9731	root	1.387	%
9732	root	1.1	[rfc1925]
9733			Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick any two (you can't have all three).
9734	root	1.387	%
9735	root	1.1	[Alan Cox, why not port hurd to sgi, instead of linux]
9736			> A possible minus is the message-passing between the servers which might
9737			> be time-consuming.
9738
9739			"Yesterdays technology, next week" to quote an OSI saying
9740	root	1.387	%
9741	root	1.1	UNIX versions of ctags handle the C language, and often Pascal and Fortran
9742			77. Sometimes, they even handle assembly language. Almost universally,
9743			however, they do not handle C++...
9744			[from "learning the vi editor"]
9745	root	1.387	%
9746	root	1.1	> correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a thread about this a few
9747			> months back that resolved the ping -f localhost as a ping bug.
9748
9749			Indeed, as Alan Cox said:
9750
9751			So get a non-buggy ping(8) client.
9752
9753			and as Ecclesiastes said:
9754
9755			Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been
9756			already of old time, which was before us.
9757			There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any
9758			remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
9759
9760			Regards,
9761			Tigran.
9762	root	1.387	%
9763	root	1.1	SNMP stands for Security Not My Problem
9764	root	1.387	%
9765	root	1.1	[slightly broken, though...]
9766			/* "Hello World" in B for 64-bit hardware! */
9767			hw [0] "Hello World.*n";
9768			main(){
9769			extrn hw;
9770			putchar(0[hw]);
9771			hw=+1;
9772			putchar(0[hw]);
9773			}
9774	root	1.387	%
9775	root	1.1	> So what comes first the chicken or the egg? :)
9776
9777			The egg. Always. By definition.
9778	root	1.387	%
9779	root	1.1	> > PPS: Robert, I just made my first y2k fix to that script ;()
9780			>
9781			> Better check your scsi cables.
9782	root	1.387	%
9783	root	1.1	Arroganz durch Wissen
9784			[Dirk Jagdmann]
9785	root	1.387	%
9786	root	1.1	[Re: Pegasus - Gut oder Boese?]
9787			> Weil er sie dabei ja unterstuetzt. Da er aber (abgesehen von den ersten
9788			> ein- oder zweimal) nur auf Anrufen von Rosa-Girl erscheint, koennte man es
9789			> auch anders herum sagen. wenn CU Pfeift, kommt er angaloppiert 8))
9790
9791	root	1.388	was aber leider bedeutet, daß usa die Rennsemmel ständig mit
9792	root	1.1	sich rumschleppen mu?. ^_-
9793			Nur weil die Kleine die Bimmel hat!
9794
9795	root	1.388	Und wer weiß, was dieses pädophile Pferd eigentlich noch so
9796	root	1.1	bezwecken will... ^_-
9797	root	1.387	%
9798	root	1.1	>James :\
9799			>
9800			>I apologize for adding a message to this possibly trivial thread.
9801
9802			I like your sig. I hope you use it for everything you post.
9803	root	1.387	%
9804	root	1.1	From: Mason <mason@schwanda.resnet.tamu.edu>
9805			Subject: night of the undead ip stack
9806			Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:03:19 -0600 (CST)
9807	root	1.387	%
9808	root	1.1	> The person who decides to invent UNICODE support for Linux
9809			> is just asking for a black eye.
9810
9811			But Unicode for NT is such fun!
9812
9813			For example, the checked DbgPrint() bluescreens above DISPATCH_LEVEL
9814			if you try to print a Unicode string--the Unicode->ASCII
9815			translation tables are marked as pageable.
9816
9817			Since as far as I know, printk() does not have any format specifiers
9818			that cause obscure kernel panics, Linux is clearly behind in this
9819			area.
9820	root	1.387	%
9821	root	1.1	Linux: a no problem operating system for no problem people.
9822			[Lukas Grunwald]
9823	root	1.387	%
9824	root	1.1	http://dd.sh/perlfs/:
9825
9826			THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL (PRE-ALPHA) VERSION OF THE PERL FILESYSTEM.
9827			EVEN WHEN IT LOADS WITHOUT CAUSING A KERNEL PANIC, IT WILL LOCK UP
9828			YOUR MACHINE, DESTROY ALL YOUR DATA, KIDNAP YOUR FAMILY AND
9829			(DEPENDING ON SAID FAMILY'S CONFIGURATION) SHOOT YOUR CAT, DOG, AND/OR
9830			FIRST-BORN CHILD.
9831	root	1.387	%
9832	root	1.1	[a comment on http://dd.sh/perlfs/]
9833			Forget GNU/Linux. /PerL/inux will conquer all.
9834
9835			kill 0,1 if -x '/PerL/inux'; # request kernel mode
9836	root	1.387	%
9837	root	1.1	[Tim Hollebeek on real arithmetic]
9838			On a machine with a sane floating point model, the results make sense.
9839			For example, my SGI workstation prints:
9840
9841			0.00000000000000011102 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000020000 1.00000000000000040000
9842
9843			However, a machine with the Intel FPU from hell gives:
9844
9845			0.00000000000000000005 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000
9846
9847			due to the fact that whether 1+x and 1 are the same number depends on whether
9848			the numbers are in the FPU or not.
9849	root	1.387	%
9850	root	1.388	[Grüner Tip/Arte]
9851	root	1.1	Ihre Nachbarn sind zu laut und feiern andauernd Parties? Kein Problem, ihr
9852	root	1.388	Bohrer wird nachts um zwei spielend mit _jedem_ Lärm fertig....
9853	root	1.387	%
9854	root	1.1	Remember, eating healthy doesn't make you live longer, it just makes it seem
9855			longer...
9856	root	1.387	%
9857	root	1.1	[M$ about unix development tools like GCC]
9858			By the standards of the novice / intermediate developer accustomed to
9859			VB/VS/VC/VJ, these tools are incredibly primitive.
9860	root	1.387	%
9861	root	1.1	> > Praha is nice and our university is interesting, since it is according
9862			> > to tests most complex and impractical computer science university on the
9863			> > world :) I just love it...
9864			>
9865			> Oh well, great that I won't be studying there...
9866			>
9867			It is really fun.... just now I have lesson (that reminds me that I really
9868			should go now) about set theory and infinity... it is really fun and very
9869			practical...
9870			for example that you have cinema with infinity chairs and infinity plus one
9871			person wants to see movie... what do yo do?
9872			Just let sit down the first infinity persons and then last person ask first
9873			one to move to second chair, second one to move to third and so on and
9874			everyone fits.. isn't that great to know? :))
9875
9876			Jan Hubicka
9877	root	1.387	%
9878	root	1.1	> template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> A {};
9879			[...]
9880			> I think that this construction is allowed by the ANSI C++.
9881
9882			No, it is not. What you meant is
9883
9884			template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> class A {};
9885	root	1.387	%
9886	root	1.1	Jan Dubois writes:
9887			> A) perl-5.00553
9888			> path = \perl\5.00553\bin\MsWin32-x86\perl.exe
9889			> cc = cl.exe
9890			A performance analysis compiling with M$ compiler? Get real!
9891
9892			[...]
9893
9894			Ilya
9895	root	1.387	%
9896	root	1.1	>Shouldn't the kernel compile with all combinations of options.
9897
9898			Yes. Feel free to fix it and send a patch.
9899
9900			p.
9901	root	1.387	%
9902	root	1.1	[tomc]
9903			Jean-Louis provides four arguments in favor of the overloading of the
9904			logical && and \|\| operators. Here they are:
9905
9906			+------------------------------------------+
9907			\| Other languages, notably C++, permit it. \|
9908			+------------------------------------------+
9909
9910			This one is hardly persuasive. Many languages do innumerable things
9911			that Perl does not do. Just for example, take:
9912
9913			* Csh reparses and re-evals interpolated strings, allowing something
9914			like C<$cmd $var> to do interesting things.
9915			* The Fortran lexer (as it were), having no need of white space to
9916			infer tokens, allows C<DO I=1.10> and C<DO I=1,10> to coexist in an
9917			interesting way.
9918			* Icon has an entirely different notion of success and failure,
9919			allowing expressions like (X < Y < Z) to do interesting things.
9920			* Scheme has call-with-continuation, allowing co-routines to do
9921			interesting things.
9922			* C++ has template classes with abnormal typing rules even for that
9923			language, allowing parameterized meta-classes to do interesting
9924			things.
9925	root	1.387	%
9926	root	1.1	Make is like Pascal: everybody likes it, so they go in and change it.
9927			--Dennis Ritchie
9928	root	1.387	%
9929	root	1.1	perl -wlpe '}{$_=$.' file # Count the number of lines.
9930	root	1.387	%
9931	root	1.1	[not quite duff's device, but...]
9932
9933			switch (x)
9934			default:
9935			if (prime(x))
9936			case 2: case 3: case 5: case 7:
9937			process_prime(x);
9938			else
9939			case 4: case 6: case 8: case 9: case 10:
9940			process_composite(x);
9941	root	1.387	%
9942	root	1.1	Is there any truth to the rumor that the number appearing
9943			after the words "Microsoft Windows" is the minimum amount of memory,
9944			in megabytes, required for execution?
9945
9946			Craig Milo Rogers
9947	root	1.387	%
9948	root	1.1	Mark Mielke writes:
9949			> This statement is false. The simple fact that school textbooks teach it
9950			> to be indeterminate should be enough to convince you of that.
9951
9952			This is just another reference point about the state of education in
9953			US (apparently in Canada too?).
9954
9955			Ilya
9956	root	1.387	%
9957	root	1.1	[from p5p]
9958			> Now you know why threading is experimental and all, buddy.
9959
9960			Experimental schexperimental. Anything that doesn't cause an
9961			immediate coredump is not experimental. :-) (Observant readers will
9962			note that this is a more rigorous standard than Microsoft's.)
9963
9964			Nat
9965	root	1.387	%
9966	root	1.1	Needless to say, Linux awk is probably gawk, which has been taking too
9967			much steroids for a while. =)
9968
9969			--Albert Dvornik
9970			<bert@genscan.com>
9971	root	1.387	%
9972	root	1.1	Subject: Re: zero width lookbehind considered slow
9973			From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@jhereg.perl.com>
9974			Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:40:37 -0500
9975
9976			>You do not understand? Perl is slow...
9977
9978			Ilya: You are formerly invited to go play in the python
9979			or tcl crowd instead of here.
9980
9981			--tom
9982	root	1.387	%
9983	root	1.1	>What's it? Can linux be improved too? Or has it already been improved?
9984
9985			Linux has never done anything so stupid in the first place.
9986
9987			Linus
9988	root	1.387	%
9989	root	1.1	On the 8th day god created email. And got noted the world was good. Then the
9990			devil added HTML mail...
9991	root	1.387	%
9992	root	1.1	linux/lib/vsprintf.c: * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds fucked it up :-)
9993			linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/binfmt_aout32.c: /* Fuck me plenty... */
9994			linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/ptrace.c:/* Fuck me gently with a chainsaw... */
9995	root	1.387	%
9996	root	1.1	On 1998-10-11T02:37:57,
9997			Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> said:
9998
9999			> Believe me Microsoft think Linux is a threat now. Its level with things like
10000			> java in their perceived threat list, so you can expect all the usual MS
10001			> techniques to start coming this way and very soon.
10002
10003			Arm the gnus!
10004	root	1.387	%
10005	root	1.1	[David Miller after (another) endless discussion with Richard Kenner]
10006
10007			Anyways, I tired (just like everyone else) of arguing endlessly with
10008			you, you're in the past, you no longer constrain my ability to improve
10009			gcc, so go away.
10010	root	1.387	%
10011	root	1.1	I received my copy of Visual Studio 6.0 today. I couldn't believe that it
10012			wanted to install the C++ compiler into a directory called:
10013
10014			"\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98"
10015
10016			But anyways, I just had to find out if it was finally possible to compile
10017			Perl (without PERL_OBJECT) with optimization (-O2).
10018	root	1.387	%
10019	root	1.1	[on perl version numbering]
10020			> So it could be 5.006 for the developers, but "ThreadPerl" or "Perl with
10021			> Multithreads" (or some such) for the journalists, if that's what
10022			> journalists need to make them pay attention.
10023
10024			Down that path lies "Perl version 5.006, codename `Ticklish Uvula',
10025			was released today" madness.
10026	root	1.387	%
10027	root	1.1	[on perl version numbering]
10028			> elaine> 5.1 would be a good thing(tm) as it would draw attention,
10029			> elaine> etc. in a way that a developers versioning would. The
10030			> elaine> world is not populated by people who think the same
10031			> elaine> way. To that end, this would be a good change. Of course,
10032			> elaine> we could call it Perl99.
10033			>
10034			> To me, Perl seems to be recognized for it's language qualities, not
10035			> for marketing reasons. IMHO, perl may keep this difference with other
10036			> wintel product. More than that : Perl99, would let believe people that
10037			> it is not Y2K proofed, or still in beta (<1.00). So it's not a good
10038			> marketing name, anyway.
10039
10040			Right. Then, to be Y2K compliant, we'll have to call it Perl1999. Hmmm.
10041			"The year perl left earth's orbit"? Maybe we need to get the NASA guys to
10042			put perl on the next low-cost spaceshot.
10043
10044			Of course, then c.l.p.m's motto could be "We do not commit mindless
10045			violence..." :-)
10046	root	1.387	%
10047	root	1.1	Rule 1 says that Larry says that Larry has the last say, unless he changes
10048			his mind in which case he still has the last say.
10049	root	1.387	%
10050	root	1.1	> >I never said it did.. I should have said: Binary only drivers encourage
10051			> >poor drivers
10052			>
10053			> No it doesn't.
10054
10055			Indeed. Its down to
10056
10057			Profit = (units * margin) - overhead
10058
10059			and the folks who decide "overhead" arent the programmers but the management.
10060			The folks who say "you have two weeks allocated to write this driver, then
10061			we ship it" are the folks to take the issue up with, and that goes source
10062			or binaries.
10063	root	1.387	%
10064	root	1.1	dig txt leap.yp.to
10065	root	1.387	%
10066	root	1.1	"The fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that nobody's after me..."
10067	root	1.387	%
10068	root	1.1	[linux-kernel on endianess issues with NIPQUAD]
10069
10070			\|> Do I read this correct?!? Is it more acceptable to have a bug[*],
10071			\|> than a not optimal fix?!?!?
10072			\|>
10073			\|> s/optimal/stupid/
10074
10075			What's stupid is little endian. <g>
10076
10077			Andreas.
10078	root	1.387	%
10079	root	1.1	[Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
10080			...
10081			A closely related question is `What is 1 minute before 23:59:60?''.
10082
10083			Here's a good one: `What is 1 month before 1 February 1995 in
10084			Kiritimati?''. There was no 1 January 1995 in Kiritimati; they
10085			skipped a day by moving the clocks ahead 24 hours. Similar issues
10086			arise when asking about times that occur within smaller, more typical
10087			UTC offset changes. A number of obscure questions arise here, and I'm
10088			not sure it's worth standardizing all the answers.
10089	root	1.387	%
10090	root	1.1	[D.J.Bernstein on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
10091
10092			Paul Eggert writes:
10093			> which I am calling the `modified TIME_TAI''
10094
10095			Your time differences break down near leap seconds. Ever watched xntpd
10096			try to handle a leap second? Wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble.
10097	root	1.387	%
10098	root	1.1	For binary only drivers you can assume most vendors will build x86 only
10099			however.
10100
10101			"We don't have the tools"
10102			"We can't support a non intel build"
10103			"We don't have that sort of machine"
10104			"Its not worth the time cost"
10105			"Whats an Alpha ?"
10106	root	1.387	%
10107	root	1.1	On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote:
10108
10109			> The original message was received at Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:39:56 -0400
10110			> from mini [10.0.0.3]
10111			>
10112			> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
10113			> <mailproc@fred>
10114			>
10115			> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
10116			> procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
10117			> procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
10118			> procmail: can't load library 'libc.so.5'
10119			> 554 <mailproc@fred>... unknown mailer error 16
10120	root	1.387	%
10121	root	1.1	> Here is the difficulty with this discussion:
10122			> No documented problem
10123			> No reason to believe that the "solution" solves the unspecified "problem"
10124			> No clear understanding of the effects of this change on the system
10125			>
10126			> Why, this could be a discusion among AIX developers!
10127	root	1.387	%
10128	root	1.1	> This would be a reasonable committee-like compromise that might
10129			> satisfy neither of us (:-).
10130	root	1.387	%
10131	root	1.1	By default Microsoft has set Explorer to use gz files as VRML, you need to
10132			change the association for .gz / vrml from "start vrml program" to "always ask"
10133
10134			dave
10135	root	1.387	%
10136	root	1.1	On 10 Aug 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
10137			DG> You're not programming MS-DOS applications are you?
10138
10139			BP> Hell no. I wouldn't touch MS-DOS with a ten-foot network cable.
10140	root	1.387	%
10141	root	1.1	[Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
10142
10143			Date: 10 Oct 1998 15:35:05 -0000
10144			From: "D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>
10145
10146			Paul Eggert writes:
10147			> * 29 February if it's a leap lear, 28 February otherwise.
10148
10149			If that's 1 month before 31 March, then what's 1 month before 30 March?
10150			1 month before 29 March?
10151
10152			The same as 1 month before 31 March.
10153
10154			1 month before 28 March?
10155
10156			28 February.
10157
10158			And what's 1 month after 28 February? 1 month after 27 February? 1 month
10159			_before_ 27 February?
10160
10161			28 March, 27 March, and 27 January.
10162	root	1.387	%
10163	root	1.1	Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
10164
10165			>Nils Goesche wrote:
10166			>> So make a security check first:
10167			>>
10168			>> if (status = UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK)
10169			>> launch_full_counterstrike();
10170			>
10171			>Hmmm. The way the worlds been going lately, AI wouldn't trust that code to
10172			>do the job. Here's the revised version:
10173			>
10174			>if(status == UNDER_NULEAR_ATTACK); /* Corrected dangerous
10175			> = instead of == error*/
10176			> launch_full_counterstrike();
10177			>
10178			>Now isn't that much more reliable?
10179			>
10180			>--
10181			>Email: cyrand@hotmail.com
10182
10183			The following variant is less reliable but much safer:
10184
10185			if (status == UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK); /* Correct dangerous
10186			launch_full_counterstrike (); = instead == error */
10187	root	1.387	%
10188	root	1.1	It is even more cheerful than that. Not so long time ago a customers
10189			of ours totally destroyed his NT installation on Alpha.
10190
10191			He found on a manufacturer page, no money - for a download, "NT driver"
10192			for his particular piece of a hardware. So he followed instructions
10193			to the letter - "Installation Wizzard" and all that crap - and the thing
10194			happily installed clobbering, as it is customary in these circles,
10195			essential system libraries with its own versions. The catch was that
10196			this driver was for NT/Intel and these bozos did not even bother to
10197			check for an architecture or at least mention something in some blurb.
10198			Ooops! No chance even to try to boot anymore.
10199
10200			The saving grace was that the installation was rather new, so loses
10201			were not big, and he had an opportunity to practice an essential skill
10202			of re-installing Windows NT. Ah, and yes, this was the only NT driver
10203			available for that hardware from any source.
10204			What do you plan on doing? Using a PA system for networking? :)
10205			Whats next? A Smell modem? It would bring a new meaning to packet
10206			sniffing!
10207	root	1.387	%
10208	root	1.1	"I'd rather spend 10 hours reading source code than 10 minutes on a
10209			technical support line that isn't"
10210	root	1.387	%
10211	root	1.1	[from linux-kernel]
10212			`This code fills 8 million seats, we therefore decide what's standard.''
10213	root	1.387	%
10214	root	1.1	[...]
10215			And especially with new machines users have a lot of clout. Several UK
10216			suppliers now carry Buslogic cards partly because they got fed up of
10217
10218			"I'd like to order a dual PII/300, 256Mb of RAM, 17" monitor
10219			4 4Gig IBM disks, and a buslogic scsi controller"
10220			"We dont do buslogic only adaptec"
10221			"Nothing else"
10222			"Sorry"
10223			[Click]
10224
10225			Alan
10226	root	1.387	%
10227	root	1.388	Fünfzig Prozent der Amerikaner wurden in ihrer Kindheit sexuell mißbraucht,
10228			während weitere fünfzig Prozent von Außerirdischen entführt wurden.
10229	root	1.387	%
10230	root	1.1	> Let's not forget that this is just an informal, free
10231			> software project. Unlke the US House of Representatives
10232			> we do not yet posess nuclear capability (certain RTEMS
10233			> users excepted, of course!).
10234
10235			Hmmm, if some RTEMS users have nuclear facilities attached to their
10236			systems, they might be well advised to be careful using FORTRAN as
10237			their language of choice. The comp.lang.fortran FAQ states (with
10238			concurrence from resident X3J3 members) that "using a non-standard
10239			construct might start WW III, if the necessary (optional) hardware
10240			is installed"
10241
10242			[Toon Moene in private discussion]
10243	root	1.387	%
10244	root	1.1	Newsgroups: alt.config
10245
10246			L. Harris wrote:
10247			>
10248			> Testing
10249
10250			you failed.
10251	root	1.387	%
10252	root	1.1	Roswell {Unit 6 of 5 Sam Borg} Coverup [Rev. joWazzoo - well mannered despammer]
10253			<JOWazzoo@WhiteICE.com> at We are Sam Borg Spam Assimilators Ltd. - Area 51 HQ
10254	root	1.387	%
10255	root	1.1	Perl is really designed more for the guys that will hack Perl at least
10256			20 minutes a day for the rest of their career. TCL/Python is more a
10257			"20 minutes a week", and VB is probably in that "20 minutes a month"
10258			group. :) -- Randal Schwartz
10259	root	1.387	%
10260	root	1.1	> alternative, when it comes to stability and power...Not to mention the
10261			> fact that bugs and fixes are very quickly available and don't come in
10262			> 18MB+ "Service Packs" :).
10263
10264			What, you mean you _paid_ for service pack '98?
10265	root	1.387	%
10266	root	1.1	We got this INTERNET because we whan't more information ( to learn ) now it
10267			seem's people can't handle what they see. You say freedom is a mater of
10268			choice (well it is) you have the freedom to choose to carry your butt some
10269			where else...
10270	root	1.387	%
10271	root	1.1	Steve Orzel (phloam@vol.com) wrote:
10272			[...]
10273			: The purpose of the newsgroup is to help out other people that have questions
10274			: about a certain topic.
10275	root	1.387	%
10276	root	1.1	Mark Robinson wrote:
10277			>
10278			> Does any have any source code to games that I can have? Does anybody
10279			> know where I can get game sources(legally)?
10280
10281			Here's the trial version of the three-room text adventure I'm going to
10282			write. I'm not finished yet, though.
10283
10284			void main (void)
10285			{
10286			printf ("You are in a dark room.\n");
10287			printf ("\n");
10288			printf ("You feel a sharp pain.\n");
10289			printf ("You have died.\n");
10290			printf ("\n");
10291			printf ("!!! GAME OVER !!!");
10292			}
10293
10294			(Don't tell, but I took some of the code from Quake.)
10295
10296			--
10297			John Kugelman. kugelman@mnsinc.com
10298	root	1.387	%
10299	root	1.1	[mail I got after releasing a zip-password cracker, the second biggest
10300			mistake I ever made]
10301
10302			From: "Tom Miller"
10303			Subject: Can
10304			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
10305
10306			Hay man can you send me some hacking tips and tricks please
10307			send to kymmiller@bigpond.com
10308			my name is Tom Miller
10309
10310			From: "Tom Miller"
10311			Subject: Wait
10312			X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
10313
10314			Hey man its Tom can you also send me any easy systems to hack and the
10315			passwords also send me any infomation about hacking websites thank you
10316	root	1.387	%
10317	root	1.1	From: lm@bitmover.com (Larry McVoy)
10318
10319			[...] then think a little before flaming. Or better yet, produce something
10320			better. Flaming is easy but it is basically masturbation without the orgasm
10321			so why bother? [...]
10322	root	1.387	%
10323	root	1.388	Günter Höns <guenter.hoens@gmd.de>
10324	root	1.1
10325			Newsgroups: de.alt.ufo
10326
10327			Offensichtlich ist noch keinem das Wasser-Wachstum aufgefallen, das sogar
10328			jeden Tag geschieht. Jeden Tag waechst der Wasserberg im Meer um mehrere
10329			Meter, ist dann naeher an der Sonne und verdunstet dann. Sogenannte
10330			Wissenschaftler haben eine abenteuerliche Theorie ueber den Einfluss des
10331			Mondes auf dieses Wachstum aufgestellt, aber inzwischen wissen wir es
10332			besser: Die Wasser-Molekuele werden von Neutrinos getroffen, und verdoppeln
10333			sich dann.
10334	root	1.387	%
10335	root	1.1	CRASH(8)
10336			no fs
10337			A device has disappeared from the mounted-device table.
10338			Definitely hardware or software error.
10339
10340			Unix Version 7 Manual
10341	root	1.387	%
10342	root	1.1	On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Larry Wall wrote:
10343			>
10344			> Maybe Pi looks like this:
10345			>
10346			> =for C
10347			> i++; /* add 1 to i */
10348			> =end
10349			> =for C++
10350			> i.value() += 1; // add 1 to i, probably
10351			> =end
10352			> =for Java
10353			> system().foo().bar().i().value().please().increment(); // ???
10354			> =end
10355			>
10356			> :-)
10357	root	1.387	%
10358	root	1.1	> > USENET is not the non-clickable part of WWW!
10359	root	1.387	%
10360	root	1.1	[on linux 2.1.111]
10361
10362			The horrid underlining which was a feature with the monochrome Linux vt's on
10363			the previous two releases of the kernel has gone. Unfortunately, so has the
10364			cursor. A couple of brief experiments didn't result in me finding a way to
10365			turn it on.
10366	root	1.387	%
10367	root	1.1	[...]
10368			its a true story, it happend this weekend in a nice country
10369			between Belgium (wellknown for its Dutroux-case) and Germany
10370			(wellknown for its Bratwurst), lets call it the Lowlands...
10371			[...]
10372	root	1.387	%
10373	root	1.1	I get a sense of god-like proportions when I patch /dev/kmem with dd(1).
10374
10375			Chad C Giffin
10376	root	1.387	%
10377	root	1.1	[usenet, an anology]
10378			Mary Green's car was smoking. She got worried. "Whatever should I do?"
10379			worried Mary... Well, as she drove along she noticed a florists shop. "Aha!
10380			Thought Mary, "Flour shops are full of thoughtless men who need to apologize to
10381			their wives. These men are the sometimes the same ones I see swearing under
10382			the hoods of their cars in the shade of a tree."
10383
10384			"Brrring" said the bell of the door to the flower shop as Mary poked her head
10385			through the door.
10386			"HELP!!! MY CAR IS SMOKING!" Screamed Mary.
10387			"There is a garage right next door." Said the shopkeeper.
10388			"That's right," Said Melvin, "And there is a parts store across the street. If
10389			you ask for Fred, he's pretty savvy about that kind of stuff."
10390			Now Joe was also in the flower store. This was his first time in trouble, so
10391			he did not hear the 30 or 40 people per day who came in screaming about their
10392			cars smoking (mostly men, of course -- the ones under the shade trees,
10393			usually.)
10394
10395			"Why don't you help the stinking lady!!" Screamed Joe. "It might be your
10396			muffler bearings..." he continued. Or maybe it's your deisel glow plugs or
10397			your tire pressure..."
10398			Now Tim, also new to the flower shop felt the courage to chime in, "Or it could
10399			even be your cooling system. Sometimes a hose gets a crack."
10400			"My car smoked once and it was an oil leak, where the head gasket was spraying
10401			oil in the manifold." Hollered Larry
10402			"Hey lady, why don't you get your car the patch if it's smoking" chortled Glen.
10403			Well, the hollering went on into the evening, and the lady finally went to the
10404			gas station and found that the heater core had a tiny split and was repaired in
10405			three days for a cost of $175.23.
10406	root	1.387	%
10407	root	1.1	> Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
10408
10409			Sicher, das macht der Inzest, und die Isolation!:)
10410	root	1.387	%
10411	root	1.1	> Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
10412
10413			Stimmt, deswegen waren sie wohl auch die ersten, die Hitler hinterherliefen...
10414			:-(
10415	root	1.387	%
10416	root	1.1	>Mt 24,34 Wahrlich, ich sage euch: Dieses Geschlecht wird nicht vergehen, bis
10417			>dies alles geschieht.
10418			>Und es verging nicht.
10419
10420			So what?
10421
10422			Ich dachte eher an:
10423
10424			" 'Und sein Wabbel wird an einer Lanze aufgespiesst', wiederholte der
10425			Oberste Groesste Meister grimmig. Im Hintergrund knarrte etwas, als
10426			Bruder Pfoertner versuchte, das klemmende Portal zu oeffnen. 'Sind wir
10427			jetzt alle soweit? Befinden sich vielleicht noch andere Unwissende
10428			unter uns,die sich verirrt haben?' fuegte er mit aetzendem Sarkasmus
10429			hinzu. 'Gut. Wunderbar. Ich bin ja _so_ froh. Vermutlich brauche ich
10430			nicht zu fragen, ob die vier Wachtuerme geschlossen sind, oder? Oh,
10431			ausgezeichnet. Hat sich jemand die Muehe gemacht, der Heiligen Hose
10432			die Beichte abzunehmen? Ach, tatsaechlich? Auf die richtige Art und
10433			Weise? Und wenn ich nachsehe? Na schoen. Sind vor den Fenstern die
10434			roten Kordeln des Intellekts gespannt worden? Gut. Nun, dann koennen
10435			wir jetzt vielleicht beginnen.' ".
10436
10437			Terry Pratchett, "Wachen! Wachen!", S. 15f
10438
10439			Antje
10440	root	1.387	%
10441	root	1.1	[....]
10442
10443			Da muss ich ja, obwohl ich beinahe meinen Humor verloren haette, leise
10444			grinsen. Ich darf zusammenfassen: Du bringst uns keine Beweise, weil Du 1.
10445			zu arm und 2. zu sehr ausgelastet mit der Rettung der Welt und der Zukunft
10446			und so bist. Ausserdem brauchst Du keine Beweise, weil sich Dein
10447			Gedankengebaeude nach eingehender Nabelschau als selbsttragend erwiesen hat.
10448			Finde ich gut! Akzeptiert!
10449
10450			Da will ich nicht weiter stoeren,
10451
10452			Antje
10453	root	1.387	%
10454	root	1.1	It seems that writing to /dev/vcs0 makes the console singing "Ugh,
10455			lalala, I love you baby..."
10456			--
10457			Pavel.Janik@inet.cz
10458	root	1.387	%
10459	root	1.1	On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Linus Torvalds wrote:
10460			>
10461			> Kubys
10462
10463			Kubys is my evil twin brother. Sorry about that.
10464
10465			Linus
10466	root	1.387	%
10467	root	1.1	> eieio stands for "Enforce In-Order Execution of I/O".
10468
10469			.... and it is definitely my favorite name for an assembly language
10470			instruction (the non-native-English speakers on the list presumably
10471			don't know the childhood song "Old McDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O").
10472	root	1.387	%
10473	root	1.1	> It is big and never uses.
10474
10475			That's parses like English, but I'll be hornswoggled if I can figure
10476			out what it means.
10477			--
10478			Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
10479	root	1.387	%
10480	root	1.1	[...] HP's PA-8500, for example, has 1.5 Mbytes of L1 cache on-chip. The
10481			company has described the 8500 as a cache SRAM with an ancillary CPU. [...]
10482	root	1.387	%
10483	root	1.1	From: Dave Cinege <dcinege@psychosis.com>
10484			Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:10:31 -0400
10485
10486			Terry L Ridder wrote:
10487
10488			> at some future date end up being released under the BSD License is what
10489			> is being discussed.
10490
10491			Well my licence is bigger then your licence.
10492	root	1.387	%
10493	root	1.1	[gtk/testgtk, after dragging & dropping an object:]
10494
10495			Drop data of type text/plain was:
10496
10497			Bill Gates demands royalties for your use of his innovation
10498
10499			[and the button reads]
10500
10501			Continue with life in spite of this oppression
10502	root	1.387	%
10503	root	1.1	Joshua Waxman <jwaxman@ymail.yu.edu> writes:
10504
10505			While DJGPP is indeed a C as well as a C compiler, there are certain
10506
10507			A terribly succinct, as well as a true, statement. However, it has a
10508			certain amount of redundancy.
10509	root	1.387	%
10510	root	1.1	Compatibility with oneself is Microsoft's greatest strength. When they hit
10511			the 64 bit transition they will hit a major internal incompatibility problem.
10512
10513			...
10514
10515			Peter da Silva <peter@baileynm.com>
10516	root	1.387	%
10517	root	1.1	>Hello,
10518			>
10519			>I am new to Perl. Can anyone tell me where I can download a full
10520			>operational Perl version for a Windows 95 system?
10521			>
10522
10523			Of course it all depends on what you mean by "a full operational Perl
10524			version" Perl on Win32 has limitations that are largely due to the
10525			nature of the underlying OS, Perl on Win95 has further limitations
10526			compared with NT due to its own shortcomings .
10527	root	1.387	%
10528	root	1.1	An injunction delaying Windows 98 would clearly have a negative impact
10529			on the country as a whole.
10530			Compaq President & CEO Eckhard Pfeiffer,
10531			explaining why Microsoft shouldn't be
10532			prosecuted under anti-monopoly laws.
10533	root	1.387	%
10534	root	1.1	With a PC, I always felt limited by the software available. On Unix, I am
10535			limited by my knowledge. --Peter J. Schoenster <pschon@baste.magibox.net>
10536	root	1.387	%
10537	root	1.1	There is a need to keep from being locked into Open Systems. --IBM sales rep
10538	root	1.387	%
10539	root	1.1	In comp.lang.perl.misc,
10540			Stylin <stylinsty@yahoo.comREMOVE> writes:
10541			:Can anyone point me to the algorithm for creating a unique id?
10542
10543			$id = `cat /dev/kmem`;
10544
10545			--tom
10546			--
10547			Real programmers can write assembly code in any language. :-)
10548			--Larry Wall in <8571@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>
10549	root	1.387	%
10550	root	1.1	Newsgroup: comp.lang.perl.misc
10551			Subject: Larry 1 Bill 0
10552	root	1.387	%
10553	root	1.1	On 3 Jul 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
10554
10555			> The only problem with these AIs is that they don't handle references
10556			> to themselves as AIs very well. In faSegmentation fault (core dumped)
10557			> NO CARRIER
10558			> !@&#@#%T^@&(GUSD(@!&(@#R(FERHGH*(@#(&$&#@Y!&R
10559	root	1.387	%
10560	root	1.1	> People come here to ask questions, not for intellectual gratification, but
10561			> rather they are seeking solutions. As such, the incorrect answer was
10562			> better.
10563
10564			There's something... terribly wrong with this statement. I can't quite put
10565			my finger on it. Hmmm.
10566	root	1.387	%
10567	root	1.1	comp.lang.c does not exist to accomodate the laziness of those who cannot be
10568			bothered to learn netiquette. That's what comp.lang.c++ is for.
10569	root	1.387	%
10570	root	1.1	\|> : > but... a microwave is an example of an embedded system,
10571			\|>
10572			\|> : Who says? He just said it was a microwave. He didn't say it was
10573			\|> : a free-standing implimentation.
10574			\|>
10575			\|> This is approaching arguing for the sake of argument. Have you
10576			\|> ever seen a microwave oven that supports a hosted C environment?
10577
10578			The Lipton Ritchie Model 8 did. I'm sure that many posters will
10579			point out that Lipton's implementation of the stdio libraries was
10580			horrendously buggy. It was, but it was still a great system. It
10581			remains the only C implementation I know of that could be used to
10582			build Bison, and then cook it.
10583
10584			Viva la buffalo burgers.
10585	root	1.387	%
10586	root	1.1	A strategically-placed PDP-11 can be used to heat your entire
10587			home. I've got one in my basement, next to a large box of "She's
10588			The Sheriff" drink coasters. I sold my furnace years ago. The
10589			Digital Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning Corporation
10590			can be found online at http://www.dhvacc.com/.
10591	root	1.387	%
10592	root	1.1	The lbxproxy program has various options, all of which are optional.
10593			-- lbxproxy(1)
10594	root	1.387	%
10595	root	1.1	Re: Where to learn Windows programming...
10596
10597			\|> I'll take a Schildt book any day, thanks.
10598
10599			Great. I'm expecting to see the line above as a back-cover blurb
10600			on the next "Bullschildt: The Complete Reference".
10601	root	1.387	%
10602	root	1.1	Subject: Re: The wrong position of while, if and else?
10603
10604			that's some ugly piece of code buddy...
10605	root	1.387	%
10606	root	1.1	In article <1998062718481700.OAA03186@ladder01.news.aol.com>, eyrei@aol.com (EYREI) writes:
10607			\|> I have recently started learning the C Language. I have created a simple file
10608			\|> to determine whether or not a number is Prime. When I run it, the program
10609			\|> crashes with the error message :- Unhandled Exception :- General Protection
10610			\|> Exception 0x5FD7:0x379F. Prime(1) Processor Fault.
10611
10612			\|> What does this mean.
10613
10614			It means you've got a broken operating system, and should immediately
10615			install [free\|net\|open]BSD[OS] or Linux.
10616	root	1.387	%
10617	root	1.1	Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
10618
10619			On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Emulov wrote:
10620			> Hi, i don't know if this is a stupid question..
10621
10622			Off-topic, too! Imagine that.
10623	root	1.387	%
10624	root	1.1	"Right now we are the most shit hot piece of PC networking software on the
10625			planet. The only people who can touch us are FreeBSD (who also dont do
10626			streams)."
10627			-- Alan Cox, in "Streams and Linux"
10628	root	1.387	%
10629	root	1.1	"Perl combines all of the worst aspects of BASIC, C and line noise."
10630			- Keith Packard <keithp@ncd.com>
10631	root	1.387	%
10632	root	1.1	Lord Fellatio <richter_m@hotmail.com>
10633
10634			>Wo soll das Loch denn dann sein? Im Meeresboden?
10635
10636			Klaro.
10637
10638			>Von oben duerfte man es also ueberhaupt nicht sehen
10639			>koennen, da ueber dem potentiellen Loch im Meeresboden doch
10640			>wahrscheinlich erstmal Wasser und dann viel Eis liegen wuerde. Wie
10641			>verhindern die Ausserirdischen denn, dass Wasser ins Loch einstroemt?
10642
10643	root	1.388	Na ist doch völlig logo, mit nem rotierenden Traktorstrahl. Die
10644	root	1.1	Energie klauen die ?r***e dem Erdmagnetfeld.
10645
10646			>Gibt es da einen kosmischen Badewannenstoepsel? Haben sie es mit
10647			>Eisbergen verstopft? Oder benutzen sie das einstroemende Wasser zu
10648			>Kajakfahrten bis hinunter zum Suedpol? (Das waere doch auch endlich
10649			>mal eine einleuchtende Erklaerung fuer die Eismassen, die die
10650			>Antarktis bedecken - man muesste halt nur, der Kontinentaldrift
10651			>folgend, immer wieder neue Schaechte bohren. Oder die Kontinentaldrift
10652			>einfach wegdiskutieren...)
10653
10654			Die enorme Zentrifugalkraft im Erdinnern schleudert das Wasser wieder
10655			am Nordpolpol raus, falls der Traktorstrahl versagen sollte (Dies
10656			passiert immer dann, wenn das Erdmagnetfeld umkippt). Nun kommt sicher
10657	root	1.388	der Einwand, die Erde würde zu langsam rotieren. Das ist nur bedingt
10658			richtig. Richtig ist hingegen, daß die Rotationsgeschwindigkeit im
10659			Erdinnern um den Faktor 1000 (ca; sehr schwer zu messen: Magma) größer
10660			ist als auf der Erdoberfläche. Dies ist auch die Ursache für die
10661	root	1.1	Kontinentaldrift und die Mondphasen.
10662
10663			Die Mondphasen wiederum beeinflussen das Erdmagnetfeld und sind daher
10664	root	1.388	die Ursache für die Sonnenflecken. Den Sonnenflecken haben wir auch
10665			die momentane Klimaveränderung zu verdanken. Auf der anderen Seite hat
10666			die Zunahme der Treibhausgase eine Erhöhung des Reflektionsvermögens
10667			der Atmosphäre zur Folge, welches dazu führt, daß ein Teil der
10668			Sonnenenergie zur Sonne zurückreflektiert wird. Dies heizt wiederum
10669			die Sonnenflecken auf und verkürzt deren Zyklus. All dies wird sich in
10670			den nächten Monaten so aufschaukeln, daß vorraussichtlich im Novemner
10671	root	1.1	2002 das Erdmagnetfeld zusammenbrechen wird. Wie damals bei den Dinos.
10672			Nur war dort ein Kometeneinschlag die Ursache.
10673
10674			cu in hell 2002
10675	root	1.387	%
10676	root	1.1	"Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '85, Windows '95"
10677	root	1.387	%
10678	root	1.1	>In unix, one might say 'man 3 crypt'.
10679
10680			Of course, on a Solaris system this won't give you what you want. You
10681			get a message that it can't find the man page for 3. It then prints
10682			the man page for crypt(1).
10683
10684			Of course, all a beginner has to do is figure out that the 3 is the
10685			section number in the Unix manual. He can then use man man to find
10686			that on Solaris one uses -s to specify the section so he'll try
10687
10688			man -s3 crypt
10689
10690			Unfortunately, that doesn't work either. He'll get the message "No
10691			entry for crypt in section(s) 3 of the manual."
10692
10693			If he doesn't give up, he can go back to the manual page for man and
10694			find that the -a switch prints all matching manual pages. Or perhaps
10695			he can figure out to use the command
10696
10697			man -s3 Intro.3
10698
10699			to get a list of everything in section 3. He'll then find out that
10700			crypt is in section 3C so he should use
10701
10702			man -s3c crypt
10703
10704			Gee. I don't understand why beginners have so much trouble with this
10705			stuff. I've only been programming Unix for 15 years and I don't have
10706			any trouble.
10707			--
10708			Michael M Rubenstein
10709	root	1.387	%
10710	root	1.1	Take a moment to consider these lines:
10711
10712			%OVERLOAD=( '""' => sub { join("", @{$_[0]}) } );
10713
10714			sub html { my($type)=shift; bless ["<$type>", @_, "</$type>"]; }
10715
10716			:-) I love Perl 5! Thankyou Larry and Ilya.
10717
10718			Regards,
10719			Tim Bunce.
10720
10721			p.s. If you didn't get it, think about recursive data types: html(html())
10722			p.p.s. I'll turn this into a much more practical example in a day or two.
10723			p.p.p.s. It's a pity that overloads are not inherited. Is this a bug?
10724	root	1.387	%
10725	root	1.1	From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10726
10727			...
10728
10729			> now is evil". This only shows two things: you never looked at the bad
10730			> experiences of the industry where following a rotten design and
10731			> keeping backward compatibility lead to unusable systems. And second:
10732
10733			I worked for 3com. I know eveyrhting about following a rotten design until
10734			its unusable, believe me I do.
10735	root	1.387	%
10736	root	1.1	Ok(slow) -> !NeedComputer
10737
10738			Semour Cray
10739	root	1.387	%
10740	root	1.1	Ullrich Jans at University of Karlsruhe, Germany:
10741
10742			Oh Gott! Es ist voller crons!
10743	root	1.387	%
10744	root	1.1	From: p00h <p00h@MONMOUTH.COM>
10745			Subject: Re: AOL for Windows DoS/Exploit
10746
10747			aol supports PARTIAL html, its like win95's implementation of tcp/ip
10748			it only supports parts of it
10749	root	1.387	%
10750	root	1.1	egcs/gcc/gcse.c:
10751			/* Help stamp out big monolithic functions! */
10752	root	1.387	%
10753	root	1.1	[...] Yes, I'm being sarcastic. Especially regarding HPPA assembler syntax
10754			as provided by HP, which was designed by someone who should not have been
10755			let near a language-design project like that, too often "little languages",
10756			whether assemblers, tools, or C++, are designed by people who are unaware
10757			of, or give little thought to, the outright readability of code written in
10758			the language, in the sense that the basic semantics should be fairly obvious
10759			without the reader having to memorize lots of semantic information.
10760
10761			(In HPPA assembler's case, one glaring stupidity was the nullified branches,
10762			which have completely different semantics depending on whether the label
10763			being branched to happens to assemble to a negative or positive offset! A
10764			smarter design would have required the programmer to specify whether such a
10765			branch was a "forward" or "backward" branch explicitly, then the assembler
10766			and/or linker would complain if reality didn't match the programmer's
10767			specification. I've never looked into whether GNU's HPPA as fixes this
10768			botch; I gather GNU as fixes many botches, though, so it wouldn't surprise
10769			me if it did, even though that might make for some compatibility problems
10770			with existing HP as code.) [...]
10771
10772			tq vm, (burley)
10773	root	1.387	%
10774	root	1.1	libc/posix/regex.h:
10775			/* The following two types have to be signed and unsigned integer type
10776			wide enough to hold a value of a pointer. For most ANSI compilers
10777			ptrdiff_t and size_t should be likely OK. Still size of these two
10778			types is 2 for Microsoft C. Ugh... */
10779			typedef long int s_reg_t;
10780			typedef unsigned long int active_reg_t;
10781	root	1.387	%
10782	root	1.1	libc/db2/db.h:
10783			/*
10784			* While Microsoft's compiler is ANSI C compliant, it doesn't have _STDC_
10785			* defined by default, you specify a command line flag or #pragma to turn
10786			* it on. Don't do that, however, because some of Microsoft's own header
10787			* files won't compile.
10788			*/
10789	root	1.387	%
10790	root	1.1	> UTC variation and begining and ending dates of DST (if observed) would be
10791			> great.
10792
10793			I answered only the places I can comment on.
10794
10795			> BASSAS DA INDIA
10796
10797			This rock is below water half of the time!
10798			If any inhabitants have been there, I do not think they observe DST
10799			on a regular basis! ;-)
10800	root	1.387	%
10801	root	1.1	# ./test-plugin.pl
10802			Bizarre copy of CODE in sassign at /root/.gimp/plug-ins/test-plugin.pl line 40.
10803			wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)
10804	root	1.387	%
10805	root	1.1	>
10806			> The "where do you want to go today?" generation has taken the
10807			> developer out of the "programmer" by removing the vital, development
10808			> tools from the environment and precanning software.
10809
10810			No kidding. Point. Click. Point. Click. Point. Click. Brain Atrophy.
10811	root	1.387	%
10812	root	1.1	Lars Chr Hausmann <36haus@but.auc.dk> writes:
10813
10814			>Hello!
10815
10816			>I have to write something about, what Perl is.
10817			>I need some crystal clear info about, what perl is. So if any of you
10818			>would be so kind just to mail. Then I would be grateful!
10819
10820
10821			Perl.
10822
10823			regards
10824			jobst
10825	root	1.387	%
10826	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Cyrix 6x86MX and Centaur C6 CPUs in 2.1.102
10827			From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10828			Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:31:02 +0100 (BST)
10829
10830			> Well, that depends. They SHOULD be. By Intel 'standards' laff, they have
10831			> to be identical stepping, indicating identical features. However, I've
10832
10833			They don't. Pentiums have fairly strict rules, P6/PII much less. Also Intel
10834			are pretty good at following the MP 1.1/1.4 standard its the motherboard
10835			makers who get it wrong - primarily the BIOS is full of bugs. It appears
10836			nobody tests bios code against specs any more. It looks like they do
10837			compile flash, boot 95, boot NT, ship. The quality of bios code has dived to
10838			the absolute pits.
10839	root	1.387	%
10840	root	1.1	Unix never says `Please.' -- Rob Pike
10841	root	1.387	%
10842	root	1.1	> What about: . scriptname
10843			> ------------------^ this is a dot!
10844
10845			Funny, it looks like a "p" to me.
10846	root	1.387	%
10847	root	1.1	A computer without Microsoft and IBM is like chocolate cake without
10848			ketchup and mustard
10849	root	1.387	%
10850	root	1.1	Subject: Re: Challange for perl `GURUS
10851
10852			vimal gajjar wrote:
10853			>
10854			> Hi there,
10855			> Here is a small challange. Is it possible to have a perl
10856			> code which takes e.g. three parameters as input. time, val1, val2. and
10857			> the name of the prog. is say challange.pl. Now if i execute
10858			> "challange.pl 10 5 2" this perl script wille consume
10859			> 5% of cpu
10860			> 2 Mb of RAM
10861			> for the period of 10 Seconds.
10862			>
10863			> can one of the gurus take this challange?
10864
10865			Examining the 5 copies of this post has consumed 5% of the
10866			brain power I allocate to reviewing c.l.p.m, about 10 seconds, and
10867			has caused the death of 2 million brain cells.
10868	root	1.387	%
10869	root	1.1	> >> /A:You can usually write the program faster than you can
10870			> >> dial/dl/hangup/install/read docs/fix it/fix the fix/.
10871			>
10872			> >s/usually/never/
10873			>
10874			> s/sometimes/never/
10875
10876			Cute. You embarrass yourself by your ignorance of perl.
10877	root	1.387	%
10878	root	1.1	:That's probably true, but I really can't speak to it. But, if there
10879			:were no *nix around, there'd be no Perl. Nor would there be a need for
10880			:Perl, IMO.
10881
10882			Gotta love them JCL and ini dot bat dot bad dot doo dah files.
10883
10884			TC
10885	root	1.387	%
10886	root	1.1	'cc:Mail is a wonderful application, as long as you don't want to read or send mail.'
10887	root	1.387	%
10888	root	1.1	shurik@iron.Te.NeT.UA - Alexandr Dubovikov at TeNeT Networking Centre
10889
10890			Hi guys!
10891
10892			How check socket, alive it or die ?
10893	root	1.387	%
10894	root	1.1	--> Questions not to ask on linux-kernel <--
10895
10896			Miscellaneous flame-wars:
10897			~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
10898			12) The gnome-kde debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
10899			13) The emacs-vi debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
10900			14) Porting linux to run under windows is not interesting.
10901			15) Whether a given intel CISC chip "is really RISC" is not interesting.
10902	root	1.387	%
10903	root	1.1	Subject: what a week!
10904			From: "C. Scott Ananian" <cananian@lcs.mit.edu>
10905			Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 03:13:23 -0400 (EDT)
10906
10907			unicode, boot-logos, GGI, STREAMS, the necessity of a short devel cycle
10908			and the instability of 2.0.x, "ifconfig stopped working", "you really do
10909			need to remove 'encaps'", Linus' tarball practices... it seems like we're
10910			running out of things to flame off on. Here's my humble contribution:
10911
10912			I'VE MADE A KEWL NEW CHARSET THAT I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD USE. IT HAS ALL
10913			THE LETTERS IN MY LOGIN MAPPED TO THE LOWEST 16 CHARACTERS SO WE CAN
10914			COMPRESS THINGS REAL GOOD AND THE LETTERS IN MY BROTHER B1FF'S NAME ARE
10915			ALL IN HIGH ASCII CUZ THAT'S WHERE LOSERS BELONG!!!2!!7
10916
10917			I ONLY USE EMACS AND I THINK VI SUX!!$231!!
10918
10919			GNOME RULES AND KDE IS DEMON-SPAWN BECAUSE IT IS NOT FREE.! !
10920
10921			WE NEED KGI IN THE KERNEL (NOT LIBGGI, NOT THE TERMINAL IMPROVEMENTS
10922			WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED) IN ORDER TO HAVE WAY KEWL BOOT LOGOS AND RUN MY
10923			BROTHER B1FF'S GAMES!!1!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!11!!!
10924
10925			I USE A BIG-ENDIAN MACHINE BECAUSE THEY RULE. LITTLE-ENDIAN MACHINES ARE
10926			EVIL. AND A PENTIUM IS A RISC PROCESSOR!!!
10927
10928			WE SHOULD PORT LINUX TO WINDOWS SO WE CAN USE ALL THE KEWL HARDWARE
10929			DRIVERS!!!!!@@#!
10930
10931			Did I miss any? ;-)
10932
10933			Please don't respond seriously to this email. It's a joke. A joke.
10934			Laugh. Please.
10935
10936			And then let's kill all the flaming threads, shall we?
10937			--Scott
10938	root	1.387	%
10939	root	1.1	> Well, /proc/kcore already reports its actual size...
10940
10941			And it isn't about to change at runtime either. That is the size of
10942			installed memory. I've yet to see a single person successfully insert or
10943			remove a SIMM/DIMM while a machine was running. If they did, and it was
10944			successful, the linux code will update the filesize. ;o)
10945	root	1.387	%
10946	root	1.1	Toby Heywood (toby@he-net.demon.co.uk) wrote:
10947			: This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
10948
10949			One of those 'M's stands for Mail.
10950
10951			This is not mail.
10952
10953			This is Usenet.
10954
10955			Please post only plain text like everyone else does.
10956	root	1.387	%
10957	root	1.1	------------ etienne.lorrain@ibm.net
10958			--- hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
10959			--- ide1: reset: success
10960			-----------> I like Linux !
10961	root	1.387	%
10962	root	1.1	> I have experienced people walking up to my console and saying "What
10963			> the hell does that mean" in sheer terror as the machine boots.
10964
10965			Tell them it's magic, and earn the respect of your colleagues. I always
10966			do.
10967	root	1.387	%
10968	root	1.1	++ Actually, I'm not at a loss for words. Here's one that's very appropriate:
10969			++ PLONK.
10970	root	1.387	%
10971	root	1.1	++ > SSI is not HTML.
10972			Re: Subraumfunk
10973
10974			Ja, ein Handy waere da praktisch. Die hoeheren Gebuehren rechnen sich,
10975			wenn man ueber die Grenzen des Sonnensystems hinaus telefonieren will.
10976
10977			Die Telekom wuerde da wieder mal erbarmungslos abzocken. Ich kann es
10978			mir schon vorstellen: SunSystem-Tarif, vielleicht auch einen
10979			InnerPlanets-Sondertarif, dann einen LocalGroupWeekend-Specialtarif,
10980			eine Supercluster-Zone und so weiter. Und wenn es auf der Venus
10981			schneit, telefonieren alle fuer die Haelfte.
10982	root	1.387	%
10983	root	1.1	> > Vergiss es. Du wirst nie und nimmer von Armando eine
10984			> > konkrete, verwertbare Antwort bekommen.
10985			>
10986			> Doch, man bekommt von mir sogar sehr viele Antworten.
10987
10988			Du hast gerade zwei Adjektive weggelassen.
10989	root	1.387	%
10990	root	1.1	++ Oh yeah. Show me an example of SSI used outside of HTML.
10991			Show me an HTML DTD mentioning SSI directives.
10992	root	1.387	%
10993	root	1.1	Namsuk Kim wrote:
10994			> Is there a way to convert a scalar data to Acii data format?
10995
10996			I am not familar with ACII. If you mean ASCII, then the question I have is
10997			- is the data in EBCDIC now?
10998
10999			Bill Jones
11000	root	1.387	%
11001	root	1.1	GNU/getopt.c:
11002
11003			#if defined (WIN32) && !defined (__CYGWIN32__)
11004			/* It's not Unix, really. See? Capital letters. */
11005			#include <windows.h>
11006			#define getpid() GetCurrentProcessId()
11007			#endif
11008	root	1.387	%
11009	root	1.1	Subject: IIS 4.0, PW32i316, CGI Programs
11010
11011			Perlis.dll does not pass command line arguments correctly via the web. That
11012			is, invoking the URL
11013
11014			http://www.myserver.com/myprogram.pl?Argument1&Argument2...&Argumentn
11015
11016			causes the myprogram.pl to execute, but @ARGV is empty.
11017	root	1.387	%
11018	root	1.1	"You need to use CGI."
11019			"I am using CGI, it's a CGI application!"
11020			"No, no, use CGI. The directive 'use'."
11021			"OK, so what directive do I use?"
11022			"No, no, you use use. Use CGI."
11023			"I am using CGI!"
11024
11025			Craig Berry - cberry@cinenet.net
11026	root	1.387	%
11027	root	1.1	> > Was haltet Ihr von Killfile-mailing-lists, dass sich die Leute mal
11028			> > kennenlernen koennen?
11029			>
11030	root	1.388	> Gute Idee ;-), wäre ich sofort dabei, datrifft man wahrscheinlich ne
11031	root	1.1	> Menge tolle Leute... ;-) und die wahren Freidenker.
11032
11033			Einige Freidenker sicher, aber auch etliche Denkfreie.
11034	root	1.387	%
11035	root	1.1	"I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big or
11036			professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones." -- Linus Torvalds 1991
11037	root	1.387	%
11038	root	1.1	If it's a floppy, it might be a copy.
11039			If it's a disk, you're also at risk.
11040			If it's a pirate, the vendors are irate.
11041			To avoid such frustration, try: Free Software Foundation.
11042	root	1.387	%
11043	root	1.1	From: David Woodhouse <Dave@imladris.demon.co.uk>
11044
11045			pcg@goof.com said:
11046			> It was much more than I usally get! It was _great_
11047
11048			Hehe - I know the feeling.
11049
11050			"It's broken."
11051			"What's wrong with it?."
11052			"I don't know - it just doesn't work."
11053			"Well what do you mean by 'it's broken'?"
11054			"It just doesn't work."
11055			"How can you _tell_ it's broken, for f***'s sake - what are the symptoms!?"
11056			"It gives an error message."
11057			"Would you care to tell me what it says?"
11058			"It says.... something about there being an error."
11059			"That's not very helpful. Tell me it word for word."
11060			"It says 'Unable to handle kernel NULL reference at something or other'"
11061			"That's not word for word. It said 'NULL pointer dereference.' Try again,
11062			letter for letter this time."
11063	root	1.387	%
11064	root	1.1	From: "Paul B. Henson" <henson@INTRANET.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
11065
11066			After installing Solaris 2.6 HW3/98, I discovered that /usr/bin/admintool
11067			had been installed mode 0777, world writable. Under the original release of
11068			2.6, the mode was 04555.
11069
11070			Sun has been notified of the problem. If you're running 2.6 HW3/98, you
11071			might want to verify your admintool hasn't been tampered with and fix the
11072			perms.
11073
11074			(Personally, I'd set them to 0000 ;). admintool? blech.)
11075	root	1.387	%
11076	root	1.1	From: verah@netscape.com (Vera Horiuchi)
11077			Subject: Re: Risp: drama (Re: Do It Yourself)
11078
11079			Americans ignorant of the rest of the world?
11080
11081			I must tell a favorite story here. A friend and I were purchasing a gift
11082			for another friend who lives in Canada. I was speculating out loud about
11083			how much duty our Canadian friend would have to pay.
11084
11085			The cashier said, "Oh, I'm sure Canadians don't have to pay any duty. We
11086			ship to Hawaii all the time, and _they_ don't have to pay duty." =:-0
11087	root	1.387	%
11088	root	1.388	>am besten ist z.Z. das Buch von Michael Neufeld. Wer aber Wissenslücken
11089			>verspürt (was keine Schande ist), sollte diese zu stopfen suchen und nicht
11090	root	1.1	>Zuflucht zu absolut hirnrissigen Theorien suchen.
11091
11092			Hirnrissig bist Du. Das es einen Zeittransfer aus der Zukunft zu den Nazis
11093			gab deckt sich mit dazu passenden Entschluesselungen bestimmter Bibelstellen
11094			und mit der dann tatsaechlichen notwendigen Geheimhaltung. Es deckt sich
11095			ueberdies damit, dass die Unterhaltung uns den Gedanken zunehmend nahelegt,
11096			also vorbereitet, und dass es bereits ein wissenschaftliches Experiment gab,
11097			bei dem ERST die Wirkung auftrat und DANN die Ursache. Die Zeitreise ist
11098			also Fakt. Und es ist sicher, dass Jemand per Zeitreise den Nazis helfen
11099			wollte. Gelegentliche Theorien, dass auch diese ausserirdische Hilfe gehabt
11100			haetten sollen nur davon ablenken, eine andere Erklaerung liefern. Das ist
11101			logisch, denn die Taeter sitzen ja irgendwo in unserer Zeit und moechten
11102			sicher nicht erkannt werden.
11103
11104			Du scheinst die simpelsten Grundzuege der Zeitlogik nicht verstehen zu wollen.
11105
11106			normarz@aol.com
11107	root	1.387	%
11108	root	1.1	>Oder anders gesagt:
11109	root	1.388	>Glaubst Du, Du könntest mit einem hochmodernen Maschinengewehr eine römische
11110	root	1.1	>Legion
11111			>schlagen?
11112
11113			Klar. Frage mal Cortez.
11114
11115			Bye
11116			Andreas
11117	root	1.387	%
11118	root	1.1	>Article 2B is a threat to anyone who uses a computer. I just wanted to
11119
11120			It may be a threat to any american using a computer. Fortunately, the U.S.
11121			justice does not yet apply outside the U.S.A.
11122
11123			I.a.W.: You're currently creating a lot of happy non-U.S. software
11124			companies.
11125
11126			Kind regards
11127			Henning
11128	root	1.387	%
11129	root	1.1	From: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>
11130			Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:14:11 -0700
11131			Subject: Re: driver for Creative Labs DVD kits
11132
11133			At least with the IDE DVD drive that I have, plugging it directly
11134			into an IDE port and using the regular Linux ide-cd driver works just fine
11135			for reading [...] CD and the [not] copy protected sections of the DVD's.
11136
11137			There is a protocol that the hardware decoder boards use to
11138			tell the DVD drive that they are a licensed implementation and should
11139			be allowed to read the copy protected sectors as well. I have been
11140			told that this protocol can be done entirely in software with a
11141			standard IDE port. Hopefully, somebody will reverse engineer this and
11142			make it a demand loaded kernel module. (Seriously, there is a lot
11143			that you are allowed to do with copyrighted material that this sort of
11144			hardware restriction prevents, and there are other important political
11145			issues involved relating to your rights to do as you please with the
11146			computer equipment that you bought and paid for.)
11147	root	1.387	%
11148	root	1.1	Where do you want to go today?
11149			We might support that sometime next year.
11150			-=- Microsoft
11151			(But I doubt it.)
11152			-=- Me
11153			-=- James Mastros
11154	root	1.387	%
11155	root	1.1	Hello570 <hello570@aol.com> wrote:
11156			> I tried printing a line to a file using both of the
11157			> following methods, but the output was split into two
11158			>lines.
11159
11160			If you don't want newlines in the middle of your string, then don't
11161			put newlines in the middle of your string.
11162	root	1.387	%
11163	root	1.1	http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/Dean_Roehrich/subjects.post
11164	root	1.387	%
11165	root	1.1	Einstein himself said that God doesn't roll dice. But he was wrong. And
11166			in fact, anyone who has played role-playing games knows that God
11167			probably had to roll quite a few dice to come up with a character like
11168			Einstein. -- Larry Wall
11169	root	1.387	%
11170	root	1.1	From: Ragnar Hojland Espinosa <root@lightside.ddns.org>
11171
11172			My $0.02 Euros on internationalization? I'm in Spain and my keyboard is
11173			mosty US mapped because the Spanish map is really awkward for programming.
11174			Computers were designed to be funcional, not politically (or locally)
11175			correct (hm, I don't think HAL ever spoke Russian). This "computers are easy
11176			for all" GUI related trend has done a lot of money, and lot of damage; at
11177			least command line OSes forced the user to actually learn something and
11178			absorb information. The user assumed so, so he did. Now he doesn't, and
11179			it's not all his fault.
11180
11181			The WWW is full of useless (and ugly) graphics, of useless links to links to
11182			pages with links to links which usually end up in a huge links page. Of
11183			course, there are some jewels.. but they should be majority! It's
11184			understandable, when the tools and languages focus more on aspect that in
11185			content.
11186
11187			Usenet is worse than ever, the interesting places have been ruined by
11188			spammers, c00l hak3rz, and more and more people asking (or demanding) for
11189			others doing their homework.. at least some time ago they were willing to
11190			learn (or pay for it;)
11191
11192			IRC.. heh. The few times I've been on funet almost all I found is the same
11193			people in the above paragraph. And I do know some of them even run scripts
11194			to try denial of service or other destructive attacks on people they see,
11195			just for fun or to get the op.
11196
11197			Email. Someone selling an "incredible program that allows you to bypass
11198			your ISP mail server, for only $89" (thats right, a smtp server). No OS
11199			mentioned, I somehow can guess which. And that stupid thing of sending
11200			mail to people in RTF and HTML format.. I'm gonna answer them in LaTeX.
11201
11202			Internet, your ilimited junk yard.
11203
11204			Using computers would make me real sad if it wasn't for UNIX and, of
11205			course, Linux and Linux people.
11206	root	1.387	%
11207	root	1.1	... WNT == ++VMS . Literally. Dave Cutler created VMS,
11208			then he rewrote it as WNT.
11209
11210			Ever used VMS? It's a step above DOS. Barely.
11211			--
11212			Clark O. Morgan cmorgan@aracnet.com
11213	root	1.387	%
11214	root	1.1	>Subject: If "=~" means match what is doesn't match?
11215
11216			I heard that a friend of a friend might have once been told about a
11217			rumor that this information can be found in perlop, right next to
11218			where =~ is documented. (It's !~)
11219
11220			I agree with Tom's assessment that the fall of modern man will be
11221			preceded by the de-evolution of communications to the days of oral
11222			tradition.
11223	root	1.387	%
11224	root	1.1	"Windows 95, the most installed system in the world,
11225			I know, I've done it 5 or 6 times myself"
11226	root	1.387	%
11227	root	1.1	The statistics programming language S, from AT&T, combines lazy
11228			evaluation with imperative programming. A nightmare.
11229	root	1.387	%
11230	root	1.1	"In 1965, as part of a research and development project for the
11231			U.S. Army, engineers at TRW Corp developed a software program
11232			called Generalized Information Retrieval Lanaguage and System."
11233			Or GIRLS for short.
11234	root	1.387	%
11235	root	1.1	Wissen bremst die Meinungsbildung voll aus.
11236	root	1.387	%
11237	root	1.1	I have an idea: Anybody who posts an URGENT! or EMERGENCY! request should
11238			post the circumstances behind the urgency. "I was having sex with my
11239			mistress in the server room and I knocked the Linux box over and the hard
11240			drive crashed and so I've reinstalled everything but I still can't get
11241			5_004_03 to build!"
11242
11243			This would inspire me to action far more than the implied subtext of "I
11244			have no patience."
11245
11246			xoxo,
11247			Andy
11248	root	1.387	%
11249	root	1.1	> I have Perl5 running on my pc.
11250			> and also front page98 and microsoft personal web server runnig.
11251			We all have our cross to bear.
11252	root	1.387	%
11253	root	1.1	(THIS IS LONG, YOU MAY WANT TO SKIP)
11254
11255			From: mjd@plover.com (Mark-Jason Dominus)
11256			Date: 09 Nov 1995 02:57:30 GMT
11257			Subject: Re: system() question
11258
11259			There are a lot of reasons, many of which get repeated over and
11260			over again, many of which don't. Some of the reasons you hear a lot
11261			are: Questions are incoherently phrased. Questions have the form 'My
11262			code doesn't work' and don't include the code. Questions include the
11263			code, and it's 200 lines long, and comp.lang.perl is not a debugging
11264			service. Nobody knows the answer to the question. The question is so
11265			badly punctuated that nobody can bear to read it. Questions aer
11266			written by a non-native speaker of English and the native speakers who
11267			are trying to understand it can't. (That's a shame, but it does
11268			happen. I often wish that these people would post in their native
11269			languages. I'd love to see more discussion in languages other than
11270			English. Some Dutch guy tried posting all his comp.lang.c articles in
11271			Dutch a few years ago, and all the Americans flamed him. How
11272			humiliating for me!)
11273
11274			Apart from these oft-mentioned reasons are many others that are
11275			not so often discussed, because anyone who tries to bring them up gets
11276			flamed. But it's the truth: I know the reason I don't answer more
11277			questions is because so many of them questions are so damn stupid.
11278			They're stupid in a lot of different ways, but they're still stupid.
11279			I don't want to suggest that that's why your questions go unanswered.
11280			I don't know what you're asking. No doubt the reason your questions
11281			go unanswered is because they're so deep and interesting that nobody
11282			really knows the answer.
11283
11284			The most common stupid question is the one from someone who has
11285			some high-level problem that they need solved. They have an idea that
11286			they'd like to do it in perl, and they don't really know perl. So
11287			instead of learning perl, they post to comp.lang.perl.misc.
11288
11289			Now don't get me wrong. I don't have any problems answering the
11290			questions of someone who's trying to learn perl. I love THOSE
11291			qusetions. But these people don't seem to be asking useful questions
11292			for that.
11293
11294			Today, for example, I saw a question from a guy who wants to get a
11295			list of hostnames out of nslookup. `How do I do that?' he says. And
11296			it's hard to know what to make of that. What does he mean? Does he
11297			not know how to open a pipe? Is his en' command failing? What's
11298			going on here? I can't give a useful answer without understanding the
11299			problem. Having your en' fail is a problem. Wanting to list
11300			hostnames is not a problem; it's a desire.
11301
11302			Here are some similar questions that would have made more sense to me:
11303
11304			1. `I'm a lazy asshole and I can't be bothered to learn to
11305			program myself, but I know if I post here you'll give me
11306			something for free.''
11307
11308			(OK, fair enough. At least I can send him a rate card.)
11309
11310			2. `I'm trying to use en' to talk to nslookup, but...
11311			...here's my code; what's wrong?''
11312
11313			(Good question.)
11314
11315			3. `I know perl has a `System' command for running programs,
11316			but I can't see how to get my commands into nslookup
11317			once I have run it.''
11318			(Good question.)
11319
11320			4. `I'm trying to use `Getprotobynumber' to talk to nslookup...''
11321
11322			(Good question.)
11323
11324			See, I'm not just biting people's heads off, here. #4 is a good
11325			question, because it gives me something to work with. OK, he has a
11326			very weird idea about interprocess communication, but that's
11327			ignorance, and that's what we're here to correct. He doesn't know
11328			about en'; I can refer him to the manual.
11329
11330			Here's another example: Some guy wants to assemble a list of email
11331			addresses . `How do I do that?'' he wants to know. Well, duh. Get a
11332			big pad of paper and read news for a couple days and write down all
11333			the addresses you see. Problem solved. What's it doing in
11334			comp.lang.perl?
11335			Oh, you wanted to do it in perl. Well, I guess I'd open a socket
11336			to the NNTP server and send it some XHDR commands for the `From'
11337			lines. But that's not Perl; you could do that in any language. I
11338			could do it in Bourne Shell for you if I'm allowed to use a little
11339			external thingie to handle the socket parts for me. What's it doing
11340			in comp.lang.perl?
11341
11342			Oh, you wanted us to write the program for you? Wait, let me send
11343			you my rate card.
11344
11345			Someone posted yesterday asking how to get the data from a file where
11346			the start and end of the data is marked by keywords. Same thing going on
11347			here. `Well, here's how you solve your problem: First you go take an
11348			introductory class in programming and learn to write programs in some
11349			language. Then you go to the bookstore and buy this book by Wall and
11350			Schwartz, it's really good. Read the book carefully and try out the
11351			examples. Then if you still have general questions like `How do I do this'
11352			instead of thought that this code would do X but instead it does Y' you hire
11353			a professional to write your program for you. Or you could just skip right
11354			to step 3. Want my rate card?''
11355
11356			The worst stupid questions are the ones that come from people who
11357			have no business asking them. The most perfect example of this that I
11358			could have imagined was in comp.unix.questions a couple of years ago.
11359			Some guy came and asked how you could tell if a file is a hard link.
11360			My jaw flapped open and it's stayed open since then. I couldn't have
11361			been any more stumped if he'd asked why Bodhidharma came from the
11362			West. What do you say to this guy? Do you tell him the truth, that
11363			all files are hard links, that even symbolic links are hard links?
11364			He's not going to understand you; you might as well keep your mouth
11365			shut. Do you tell him the truth, that the answer won't do him any
11366			good because he doesn't know what a hard link is, so why did he bother
11367			asking in the first place? No, that'll just make him mad. I followed
11368			that message for the next couple weeks, and nobody said anything.
11369			What could you say? The guy had no business asking the question and
11370			no use for the answer. Maybe the right answer would have been to cut
11371			off his finger or something. I dunno.
11372
11373			Some questions get ignored because they're boring. Someone asked
11374			today how to compare two variables (I assumme he means the contents of
11375			those variables) to see if they're exactly the same. You've gotta be
11376			in an awfully good mood to take the time to answer that. Maybe
11377			someone will. Maybe I will.
11378
11379			If I answer that one today, maybe he'll be back tomorrow asking
11380			how to check to see if two variables contain different values. Maybe
11381			I won't. What I find incredible is that if you tell these people to
11382			go read the manual and come back in two weeks, you sometimes get
11383			jumped on for not being helpful to beginners. Bah. If everyone told
11384			these people to go read the manual, they'd eventually figure out that
11385			that's what you have to do ,and then I wouldn't have to spend so much
11386			of my life dealing with incompetent programmers.
11387
11388			Some questions are logically nonsensical because the querent
11389			thinks they know more than they do. A lot of these have the form
11390			`How do I use X to accomplish Y?'' There's nothing wrong with this,
11391			except that sometimes X is a chocolate-covered banana and Y is the
11392			integration of European currency systems. I always get stuck on
11393			these, probably because I can't get rid of the idea that the person
11394			really has a good reason for wanting to use X. I know a half-dozen
11395			easy simple ways to accomplish Y, but I can't imagine what X has to do
11396			with it. This is a problem for me in my day job, too. Clients are
11397			always saying to me `We want to use product X to do multimedia
11398			development on the world-wide web,'' and all I can think is `Well,
11399			gee, what would you want to go and do that for?'' Sometimes it turns
11400			out that they want to do it because they want to impress the
11401			manufacturers of X, and I don't work on those jobs.
11402
11403			The flip side of this is a questions like `I want to accomplish
11404			X, but I don't want to use Y. What can I use instead?'' Which,
11405			again, is sometimes reasonable, and then sometimes X is closing a
11406			filehandle and Y is the `Close' function.
11407
11408			The questions I like the best are the ones that go like this:
11409
11410			`I want to accomplish X.
11411
11412			I thought that the following code fragment would do it:
11413
11414			...
11415
11416			But instead it does Y.
11417
11418			Why is that?''
11419
11420			This one is also pretty good:
11421
11422			`I want to accomplish X.
11423			I thought I might be able to use facility Y.
11424
11425			But Y doesn't seem like it's quite right,
11426			because of Z.
11427
11428			What should I use instead of Y, or how can I overcome Z?''
11429
11430			When I ignore these, it's usually because I don't know the answer.
11431			There were an awful lot of them today. It makes me very happy.
11432
11433
11434			There you go; a 160-line dissertation on why questions go unanswered.
11435			Now don't let me hear you saying nobody ever answers your questions.
11436
11437			--
11438			Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
11439			The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
11440	root	1.387	%
11441	root	1.1	>> BTW, would it be easier to cope with international text using Python?
11442			>Sigh... you're breaking my heart. Ask Jack Jansen, he probably knows.
11443
11444			If I were really evel, I would point out that the newest TCL (8.1) has
11445			support for international character sets and Unicode. But then, mentioning
11446			TCL in this newsfroup would be really bad. So, of course, I don't do that.
11447
11448			Ups. I'm so sorry ... ;-)
11449
11450			bye, Georg
11451	root	1.387	%
11452	root	1.1	I personally do not believe in object orientation as a security model
11453			(nor as a general programming paradigm), but feel free to try to
11454			convince me.
11455
11456			[ Or maybe I confuse you with somebody else and some other posting ]
11457
11458			Linus
11459	root	1.387	%
11460	root	1.1	++ how can i strip new lines out at var.
11461			++
11462
11463			Removing new lines is very tricky, as the manual tells you so. Ignore the
11464			complicated things in the manual, and put in this neat little trick:
11465
11466	root	1.85	$var=join+q,,,grep{ord$[[qq$\137$]]<10 or+10<ord}split+q,,,$var;
11467	root	1.1
11468			If you're old enough not to read the manual, you won't have a problem
11469			understanding the above line.
11470
11471			Abigail
11472	root	1.387	%
11473	root	1.1	I fixed the problem by mounting the SCO volume on the SunOS box, and since
11474			1995 the problem has gone away together with the SCO machine.
11475	root	1.387	%
11476	root	1.1	++ Hi Does anybody know how to upload many graphic files at the push of a
11477			++ button?
11478			Yes.
11479
11480			++ 100 pictures or so?
11481			Yes.
11482
11483			++ Can I do it in Perl?
11484			Yes.
11485
11486			Your question isn't Perl specific. Please ask in the relevant
11487			newsgroup. alt.button.play
11488
11489			Abigail
11490	root	1.387	%
11491	root	1.1	perly gates - The way to perl; Enter hackerdom.
11492
11493			perly Gates - Contradictio in Terminis.
11494
11495			Martien
11496	root	1.387	%
11497	root	1.388	Ren hat weder von Sinnhaftigkeit noch von Kausalität geschrieben, sondern
11498			nur von Logik. Logik und Kausalität sind in unserem (normalen) Denken zwar
11499			eng miteinander verknüpft, sind aber nicht dasselbe. Sinn ist hingegen noch
11500			etwas Drittes und ganz verschiedenes! "Sinn" bedeutet mindestens, daß eine
11501	root	1.1	Sache eine gewisse Richtung hat, wie in "Uhrzeigersinn". Meistens bedeutet
11502	root	1.388	Sinn aber, daß eine Sache einen bestimmten Zweck erfüllt. Auch darf man
11503			nicht "verursachen" mit "begründen" verwechseln, weil die beiden
11504			unterschiedlich sind. Die Existenz muß auch keinen Sinn haben, um eine
11505			Ursache zu haben. Das sind zwei völlig voneinander unabhängige Sachen. Die
11506	root	1.1	Existenz hat einen Sinn, also eine Richtung, wenn wir unserer Existenz eine
11507	root	1.388	Richtung geben. Dieser Sinn kann auf etwas abzielen, was außerhalb unserer
11508			selbst steht, muß aber nicht... Sie kann auch einen Sinn haben, der schon da
11509	root	1.1	war, bevor wir uns danach ausgerichtet haben - von all dem schreibt Ren aber
11510			nicht. ;)
11511
11512	root	1.388	Worauf Ren wohl hinaus wollte, ist, daß wenn die Logik des begrenzten Raumes
11513			nicht gilt, daß dann die Logik schlechthin hinfällig wird und so jedes Sein
11514			fragwürdig wird. Das ist aber nicht der Fall, da die Logik, die er von den
11515	root	1.1	Grenzen des Raumes aufstellt, gar keine wirkliche Logik ist, sondern nur die
11516			Grenzen des menschlichen Verstandes zeigt. Er kann sich nicht vorstellen,
11517	root	1.388	daß außerhalb der Grenzen des Raumes "Nichts" ist, weil man sich als Mensch
11518	root	1.1	das Nichts nicht vorstellen kann.
11519
11520	root	1.388	Darüber hinaus meinte er, daß die "Existenz unlogisch" würde. Dieser Satz
11521			ist vollkommen unverständlich. Denn entweder ist etwas, oder es ist nicht.
11522	root	1.1	Das ist auch schon die ganze Logik einer Existenz. (Aristoteles: Satz vom
11523	root	1.388	ausgeschlossenen Dritten) Unlogisch wäre, wenn etwas ist, das nicht ist oder
11524	root	1.1	wenn etwas nicht ist, das ist.
11525
11526	root	1.388	Von der Unfähigkeit des Menschen, sich einen unbegrenzten aber endlichen
11527	root	1.1	Raum (oder wie auch immer der Weltraum nun aussieht) vorzustellen auf die
11528	root	1.388	"Unlogik der Existenz" zu schließen, ist aber wohl nicht ganz möglich, zumal
11529			eine Existenz nicht unlogisch sein kann. Was sollte das auch heißen? Daher
11530	root	1.1	ist das Problem, das Ren aufwirft, nur ein Scheinproblem. Die Existenz an
11531	root	1.388	sich wird nicht in Frage gestellt dadurch, daß man sich etwas - egal was -
11532	root	1.1	nicht vorstellen kann. Er verwechselt die Begriffe "unlogisch" und
11533			"unvorstellbar".
11534
11535			Thomas.Decker@lrz.uni-muenchen.de
11536	root	1.387	%
11537	root	1.1	Marcel Richter wrote:
11538			> Marcel Richter - IQ: 3538327
11539			^^^
11540			fehlt da nicht irgendwo ein Komma.... =?-)
11541	root	1.387	%
11542	root	1.1	The X server has to be the biggest program I've ever seen that doesn't
11543			do anything for you. --Ken Thompson
11544	root	1.387	%
11545	root	1.1	linux-2.1.92/fs/autofs/root.c:
11546			printk("autofs: trying to recover, but prepare for Armageddon\n");
11547	root	1.387	%
11548	root	1.1	>>Vincent DiPietro, the discoverer of the face on mars, has thrown in
11549			>>the towel, and said that the face on mars is a pile of rocks.
11550			>Was sollte es denn sonst sein?
11551
11552			An artificial pile of rocks.
11553	root	1.387	%
11554	root	1.1	> ps: mal nebenbei: eine unbekannte variable beim analysieren des
11555			> marsgesichtes ist es, dass mensch gar nicht weiss, wie die lebende,
11556			> gedachte oder sonstige vorlage eigentlich aussieht. dazu kommt natuerlich
11557			> noch das fehlende wissen um die intention des "kuenstlers", ob er
11558			> beispielsweise nur aspekte bzw. partien eines gesichtes integrieren wollte
11559			> - und natuerlich, ob es ueberhaupt kunst ist:)
11560
11561			Ganz genau. Und das Matterhorn ist eine palaeoimpressionistische Studie des
11562			Geruchsorgans der Rasse der Ciabattanimalier. Aber das wussten hier
11563			sicherlich schon alle. Das ganze Universum ist ausserdem eigentlich nur ein
11564			grosser Flipperautomat.
11565
11566			Christoph Schulte Moenting - ubec@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
11567	root	1.387	%
11568	root	1.1	> Kris Weilemann schrieb
11569			>
11570			> >MIR ging es neulich aehnlich. Ich wurde von Ausserirdischen entfuehrt.
11571			> >Ich wurde eingesperrt in einem dunklem Raum mit langen Sitzreihen und mit
11572			> >einer Popcorn-artigen Substanz gefuettert. Nach 2 Stunden war alles
11573			> >vorbei. Einen Tag spaeter stellte ich fest, dass mir 18 Mark im
11574			> >Geldbeutel fehlten. Ist das nicht krass? -Kris.
11575	root	1.387	%
11576	root	1.388	... Jazz ist nicht nur das erfolgreichste, sondern auch das einzige originäre Kunstgenre,
11577			daß die USA jemals hervorgebracht haben.
11578	root	1.1
11579			"Apropos Musik", HR2 am 16.4.98
11580	root	1.387	%
11581	root	1.1	http://www.rsw.com/
11582
11583			The Unix shell as a 4GL
11584
11585			Unix provides hundreds of programs that can be piped together to easily
11586			perform almost any function imaginable. Nothing comes close to providing the
11587			functions that come standard with Unix. Programs and philosophies carried
11588			over from other systems put walls between the user and Unix, and the power
11589			of Unix is thrown away. The shell, extended with a few relational operators,
11590			is the fourth generation database scripting language most appropriate to the
11591			Unix environment.
11592	root	1.387	%
11593	root	1.1	Perl is incredibly difficult to parse. For example, what's the difference
11594			between these:
11595
11596			time /3 ;#/; print "hello";
11597			sin /3 ;#/; print "goodbye";
11598
11599			Right. The first one is time divided by 3, and the print is in a comment.
11600			The second one is the sin of the result of a regular expression match for "3
11601			;#", and the print gets executed!
11602
11603			There's no pure BNF in the world that'll handle that. And remember, with
11604			"use" and prototypes available, whether you parse something like "sin" or
11605			"time" depends on its definition in some other file, somewhere in the galaxy
11606			(or even decided by Perl code in a BEGIN block, that evals a prototype!).
11607
11608			Which led Larry to say at one point: "the only thing that can parse Perl is
11609			'perl'".
11610
11611			--
11612			Randal L. Schwartz
11613	root	1.387	%
11614	root	1.1	Ronald J Kimball <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu> writes:
11615
11616			> Pascal AMRAM wrote:
11617			> > Subject: MSEXCHANGE / OUTLOOK
11618			>
11619			> So here I am trying to figure out what an M sex change is....
11620
11621			It's obviously the opposite of an F sex change. HTH.
11622
11623			--
11624			Jonathan Feinberg jdf@pobox.com Sunny Brooklyn, NY
11625	root	1.387	%
11626	root	1.1	The management (my cats) made me say this.
11627	root	1.387	%
11628	root	1.1	uae-0.6.9/custom.c:800:
11629			write_log ("Program is torturing BPLCON1.\n");
11630	root	1.387	%
11631	root	1.1	uae-0.6.9/src/memory.c:363
11632			write_log ("Your Amiga program just did something terribly stupid\n");
11633	root	1.387	%
11634	root	1.1	Closures make sense in any programming language where you
11635			can have the return value of a function be itself a
11636			function, as you can in Perl. Note that some languages
11637			provide anonymous functions but are not capable of
11638			providing proper closures; the Python language, for
11639			example.
11640	root	1.387	%
11641	root	1.1	When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to
11642			resemble a nail.
11643	root	1.387	%
11644	root	1.1	> but all I get are 501 errors, method not supported. I am not 100% sure what
11645			> I did wrong.
11646
11647			What you did wrong was post a microsoft server question to a perl
11648			newsgroup.
11649	root	1.387	%
11650	root	1.1	I am trying to learn Perl on my Windows 97 system. In particular...
11651	root	1.387	%
11652	root	1.388	>Es kamen Außerirdische, die Pyramiden bauten und andere Wunder
11653			>vollbrachten. Dafür wurden sie vergöttert. Diese außerirdischen bauten dann
11654	root	1.1	>wahrscheinlich auch die Cydonia Region.
11655
11656			Etwa zehnmal zu oft 'Stargate' gesehen, was?
11657	root	1.387	%
11658	root	1.388	>Die Menschheit kämpft seit Millionen von Jahren gegeneinander.
11659	root	1.1
11660	root	1.388	Welche Hälfte ist denn da die grössere? :o)
11661	root	1.387	%
11662	root	1.1	...am still rebuilding after being hit with a clock changing virus it reset
11663			my clock to 2039 unfortunately for me my OS is beta 98 needless to say it
11664			expired instantly!!!
11665	root	1.387	%
11666	root	1.1	From: Per Bothner <bothner@cygnus.com>
11667			To: Pal Engstad <engstad@hunt.inmet.com>
11668
11669			> Linus Torvalds requires that all code in the source is using a tab
11670			> length of 8 spaces, and he also states that you are a bad programmer
11671			> if you write code with more than 3 indentation levels.
11672
11673			I didn't know that Linus Torvalds has done research on programming styles.
11674			He much have, since why else would you have the audacity quote him as
11675			an authority, on a list where there are dozens of people with more
11676			than double Linus's programming experience?
11677
11678			> This has caused the code to be fairly easy to read and maintainance is
11679			> pretty straight forward.
11680
11681			Irrelevant - a kernel is a lot simpler than an optimizing compiler,
11682			in terms of complexity of algorithms and data structures.
11683	root	1.387	%
11684	root	1.1	Nach der Diskussion muss ich akzeptieren, dass die juengst erfolgte
11685			Erdbeschleunigung von - 0,6 auf - 0,4 Millisekunden kein zwingender Beweis
11686			fuer einen Permanentantrieb ist. Aber: In letzter Zeit kommt es bei mir immer
11687			wieder vor, dass ich Dinge einfach weiss. Selbst wenn ich sie nicht begruenden
11688			kann. Ich weiss trotzdem dass sie stimmen muessen und der Antrieb existiert.
11689			Mit der Zeit findet sich dann auch die Begruendung.
11690	root	1.387	%
11691	root	1.1	Wir suchen neue AussenMitarbeiterInnen... (S.Pernar@Link-Goe)
11692	root	1.387	%
11693	root	1.1	hyperltext (hy'perl-text), n. double-quotish-interpolated hypertext markup:
11694			Example:
11695			print qq[[<LI><A HREF="$self->[[url]]">@[[[ucfirst $self->[[title]]]]]</A>\n]];
11696	root	1.387	%
11697	root	1.1	liperlsuction: What happens to any script longer than 10 lines once
11698			Randal gets his hands on it
11699	root	1.387	%
11700	root	1.1	Uperl Volta - country where perl programmers control the electricity.
11701	root	1.387	%
11702	root	1.1	> Anybody successfully installed the win32 version of Perl?
11703
11704			No! Millions of people don't use perl on win32 machines. You may be the
11705			first if you get it working.
11706	root	1.387	%
11707	root	1.1	> Macintosh.
11708			> Think different.
11709
11710			Think Again.
11711	root	1.387	%
11712	root	1.1	Bill.Cilnton@dyselxia.com
11713	root	1.387	%
11714	root	1.1	tsatan@hotmail.com writes:
11715			> Why does perl have the "push" and "unshift" functions? ...
11716			> push @nums, 4; is the same as @nums = (@nums, 4);
11717
11718			What do you want, Scheme? ;)
11719	root	1.387	%
11720	root	1.1	# There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'.
11721			# It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
11722	root	1.387	%
11723	root	1.1	\| I am returning this otherwise good typing paper to you because
11724			\| someone has printed gibberish all over it and put your name at the
11725			\| top.
11726	root	1.387	%
11727	root	1.1	I had a student ask about the UN9 operating system. I didn't understabd what
11728			he was talking about so he wrote UNIX on the board.
11729	root	1.387	%
11730	root	1.1	On 1 Apr 98 17:34:23 GMT, Schulung7 wrote:
11731			^^^^^^^^^
11732			>Was haltet ihr vom UFO-Absturz in Rosswell?
11733
11734			Nichts. Und jetzt geh woanders spielen.
11735	root	1.387	%
11736	root	1.1	>Kann man hier irgendwie mal die UFOs reinbringen, um die es in dieser NG
11737			>gehen soll?
11738
11739	root	1.388	Nein, der Datentyp wäre inkompatibel. UFOs sind per Definitionem
11740	root	1.1	materielle Objekte (obwohl das zur Zeit fraglich ist ;-), die sich in
11741			diesem Medium nicht austauschen lassen.
11742	root	1.387	%
11743	root	1.1	Wer redet hier denn von der "Hui Hui"? Ich sprach von "Hui! Hui!".
11744	root	1.387	%
11745	root	1.388	>> nein...ist kein Sender. Eine taiwanesische Sekte hat behauptet, daß am
11746			>> 25.3. auf allen TVs der Welt Gott auf Kanal 18 erscheinen würde.
11747	root	1.1	>> Ist natuerlich nicht eingetreten.
11748			>
11749			>Aber unsere Haus-Sat-Anlage geht seither nicht mehr.
11750
11751			Ein Zeichen! Er hat uns ein Zeichen gegeben! Zieht alle euren linken
11752			Schuh aus!
11753	root	1.387	%
11754	root	1.1	>Klingt nach Erdstillstand.
11755
11756	root	1.388	Ich bin entsetzt. Man hat hoffentlich sofort Wiederbedrehungsmaßnahmen
11757	root	1.1	eingeleitet?
11758	root	1.387	%
11759	root	1.1	Mars Global Surveyor Imaging Schedule
11760
11761
11762			First opportunity
11763			Approximate
11764			Orbit Internet
11765			Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11766
11767			4-3-98 09:58/1:58 a.m. 216 Viking Lander 1 April 6
11768			4-3-98 21:37/1:37 p.m. 217 Viking Lander 2 April 7
11769			4-4-98 09:16/1:16 a.m. 218 Mars Pathfinder April 7
11770			4-5-98 08:33/12:33 a.m. 220 Cydonia April 6 (mid-a.m.)
11771
11772			Second opportunity
11773			Approximate
11774			Orbit Internet
11775			Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11776
11777			4-12-98 15:23/ 8:23 a.m. 235 Viking Lander 1 April 14
11778			4-13-98 03:01/ 8:01 p.m. 236 Viking Lander 2 April 15
11779			4-13-98 14:40/ 7:40 a.m. 237 Mars Pathfinder April 15
11780			4-14-98 13:57/ 6:57 a.m. 239 Cydonia April 14 (mid-p.m.)
11781
11782			Third opportunity
11783			Approximate
11784			Orbit Internet
11785			Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11786
11787			4-21-98 20:45/1:45 p.m. 254 Viking Lander 1 April 23
11788			4-22-98 08:23/1:23 a.m. 255 Viking Lander 2 April 24
11789			4-22-98 20:02/1:02 p.m. 256 Mars Pathfinder April 24
11790			4-23-98 19:18/12:18 p.m. 258 Cydonia April 24 (mid-a.m.)
11791
11792	root	1.387	%
11793	root	1.1	> >2. Der Menschheit ist durch Inzucht entstanden. Laut biologischem
11794	root	1.388	> >Wissen, unwahrscheinlich, da Mutation und Mißbildungen auftreten
11795			> >würden.
11796	root	1.1	>
11797			> Vermutung: Das ist auch aufgetreten. Siehe levitische "Gesetze" zur
11798			> "Behandlung" von "Aussatz" insb. im 3. "Mose". Die hatten schon Probleme.
11799			Sag mal, bei Dir piepts wohl nicht mehr richtig! Aussatz, heute besser
11800			unter dem Namen Lepra bekannt, ist keine Erbkrankheit. Es ist eine
11801			(heute heilbare) Infektionskrankheit, verursacht durch Bakterien.
11802			Also nichts von Inzucht, wie Du das in Deinem latenten Rassenwahn
11803			implizierst.
11804	root	1.387	%
11805	root	1.1	> You might please start up with reading more than one sentence - a skill
11806			> quite familiar in Europe, but as it seems not in the USA.
11807	root	1.387	%
11808	root	1.1	Yup. Instead of crashing Xservers, now you have crashing kernels.
11809			Big improvement.
11810	root	1.387	%
11811	root	1.1	-- "Hey look, this new card is for windows and only $xx!"
11812			-- "Yes, but it's braindead and will hurt your performance. Take that one
11813			over there. Besides, it's not an ope.."
11814			-- "Why that one?"
11815			-- "Because it's better, sinc.."
11816			-- "But I can do the same with this one, it's cheaper, and its for windows!"
11817	root	1.387	%
11818	root	1.1	In der Klinik, in der ich mal arbeiten musste, hatten wir einen echten
11819			Koenig Ludwig II und mindestens fuenf Stueck Jesus - sowas gibts halt,
11820			wenn Du verstehst, was ich meine.
11821	root	1.387	%
11822	root	1.1	> Hast Du mal einen Stein beobachtet, der eine Unzahl komplexer
11823			> Vorgaenge paresentiert, einschliesslich der Hervorbringung
11824			> etlicher Lebensformen?
11825
11826			Jepp. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "zahlreich".
11827
11828			> Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der sich mal eben
11829			> "verwandelt", und auf dem dann lauter Wesen rumkrabbeln,
11830			> die aus ihm selbst entsprungen sind?
11831
11832			Klar doch. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "lauter".
11833
11834			> Ueberspitzt: Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der
11835			> ploetzlich zum Lebewesen wird und Dich fragt, wer oder was
11836			> er eigentlich ist?
11837
11838	root	1.388	Tja, da hören die Übereinstimmungen auf. Ich dachte Du meinst
11839	root	1.1	Erwin Stein. Den kenne ich. Der hat zwei Kinder. Die krabbeln
11840	root	1.388	ab und zu auf ihm herum. Der ist aber nicht plötzlich zum Le-
11841	root	1.1	bewesen geworden, sondern den gibt es nun schon ein wenig
11842	root	1.388	länger. Und er hat mich auch noch nie gefragt, wer oder was
11843	root	1.1	er eigentlich ist. Zumindest nicht in einem Zustand, den man
11844	root	1.388	als "normal" bezeichnen könnte. So wird das anscheinend nix.
11845	root	1.1	Ciao
11846			Stefan
11847	root	1.387	%
11848	root	1.1	"These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After
11849			unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including
11850			all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer."
11851			(http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/pc99.htm)
11852	root	1.387	%
11853	root	1.1	Video cards have write-only registers. (of course that is bad design) Let's
11854			say that register 13 is write-only, as is common. It holds an index that
11855			determines what register 69 (also write-only) actually changes. If you write
11856			to register 13 while the accelerator is active, you lock the PCI bus. You
11857			can't determine if the accelerator is active without reading from register
11858			42, but you can't interpret the contents of that register correctly without
11859			knowing what the last accelerator command was. Reading from register 13 gets
11860			you some useless (unrelated) info and _also_ toggles the accelerator on and
11861			off.
11862	root	1.387	%
11863	root	1.1	Join the Army,
11864			Meet interesting people,
11865			Kill them.
11866	root	1.387	%
11867	root	1.1	> Wie entsteht Materie? Ich koennte mir vorstellen, dass Energie in Materie
11868			> umwandelbar ist.
11869
11870			E=m*c^2 (Schon mal gehoert?) (Schon mal verstanden??)
11871	root	1.387	%
11872	root	1.388	>nach der die Pygmäen geheime UFO-Basen in ausgehöhlten Baumstämmen
11873	root	1.1	>unterhalten (Vorsicht: das war ein Witz :-) ).
11874	root	1.387	%
11875	root	1.1	> (Bernhard Nahrgang) wrote:
11876			>
11877			> >> Logische Annahme: Die Erde waechst entweder kontinuierlich, oder periodisch
11878			> >> ruckartig.
11879			> >wie kann jemand mit dem IQ von 130 nur SO SELTEN BLOEDE sein??
11880			>
11881	root	1.388	> Norbert ist nicht selten blöde...
11882	root	1.1
11883			:-)
11884	root	1.387	%
11885	root	1.1	SAT 1 Teletext: Ein Asteroid mit einem Durchmesser von fast einem Kilometer
11886	root	1.388	rast mit großer Geschwindigkeit auf die Erde zu. US-Astronomen befürchten:
11887			"XF11" könnte im Jahr 2028 auf der Erde einschlagen. Die Folgen wären
11888	root	1.1	verheerend. "Der rasende Stein aus dem All ist eine Gefahr", warnt Jack G.
11889			Hills vom US-Kernforschungszentrum Los Alamos: "Wenn er die Erde trifft,
11890			wird er die Sprengkraft von 320.000 Megatonnen Dynamit haben." Das
11891			entspricht dem Zweimillionenfachen der Atombombe...
11892
11893			ARD/ZDF Teletext: ASTEROID MIT KURS AUF ERDE ENTDECKT Amerikanische
11894			Astronomen haben einen Asteroiden ausgemacht, der in 30 Jahren der Erde
11895	root	1.388	gefährlich nahekommen wird. Die Gefahr, daß der Asteroid einschlagen wird,
11896			sei gering, aber auch nicht völlig auszuschließen. Nach derzeitigen
11897	root	1.1	Berechnungen wird der Asteroid mit der Bezeichnung "1997 XF11" am 26.Oktober
11898	root	1.388	2028 unserem Planeten am nächsten kommen. "1997 XF11" hat etwa einen
11899			Durchmesser von 1,6 Kilometern. Erstmals käme ein Objekt dieser Größe der
11900			Erde so nahe, hieß es in dem Bericht der Internationalen Astronomischen
11901	root	1.1	Union.
11902
11903	root	1.388	RTL Teletext: Himmelskörper rast auf Erde zu Ein Asteroid wird im Jahr 2028
11904			der Erde gefährlich nahe kommen. Amerikanische Wissenschaftler haben die
11905	root	1.1	Chance eines Zusammenpralls auf eins zu tausend berechnet. Sollte der
11906	root	1.388	Asteroid, der einen Durchmesser von 1,8 Kilometern hat, aufprallen, könnte
11907			er eine gigantische Flutwelle auslösen, so die Forscher. Auch ein genaues
11908			Datum haben die Wissenschaftler schon errechnet: Von Europa aus wäre das
11909	root	1.1	Naturschauspiel am 26. Oktober 2028 zu beobachten.
11910	root	1.387	%
11911	root	1.1	* Linux Viruscan.....
11912			Windows 95 Found Remove it ? (Y/y)
11913	root	1.387	%
11914	root	1.1	>>Hmm, welche Behauptungen entsprechen denn deiner Meinung nach der
11915	root	1.388	>>Realität?
11916	root	1.1	>>
11917			>>Das es das FBI wirklich gibt?
11918	root	1.388	>>Das Scully frigide ist, und deshalb mit Mulder nichts anfangen möchte?
11919			>>Das Mulder homosexuell ist, und deshalb mit Scully nichts anfangen möchte?
11920	root	1.1	>>Das der CSM einen Vertrag mit Marlb*ro hat?
11921			>
11922			>Hinter diesen "Fragen" erkenne ich z.B. eine gut bekannte Strategie. Die
11923			>FBI-Frage ist bewusst absurd. Das Abgleiten ins Sexuelle hat ebenfalls
11924	root	1.387	%
11925	root	1.1	"'You're a Cirrus. You're crap. I'm an S3. I rule. Thank you and please drive through.'"
11926	root	1.387	%
11927	root	1.1	> How could you have perl take a set of numbers (1,2,3,4) and put them
11928			> into a random order???
11929			>
11930
11931			@array=qw(1 2 3 4);
11932			print "@array[1,3,2,0]\n";
11933
11934			I've checked this against other possible random orderings
11935			of these numbers, and this ordering is at least as random as
11936			any of the other possible ones. The benefit of this one being
11937			that it begins with the number 2, which is my favorite random
11938			number less than 42.
11939	root	1.387	%
11940	root	1.1	From what I am reading Win98 and NT5.0 will be getting rid of all that
11941			crap anyway. Seems that Microsoft has invented something called TCP/IP and
11942			another really revolutionary concept called DNS that eliminates the
11943			netbios crap too. All that arping from browsers is going to go away.
11944			I also hear rumors that they are on the verge of breakthrough discoveries
11945			called NFS, and LPD too. Given enough time and money, they might
11946			eventually invent Unix.
11947	root	1.387	%
11948	root	1.1	In Germany, where typeface design has always been a significant part of
11949			the cultural heritage, and where typefounding has remained an important
11950			business, there are more than one kind of copyright-like protections for
11951			typefaces. Certain long-standing industrial design protection laws have
11952			been used to protect typeface designs in litigation over royalties and
11953			plagiarisms. Further, there is a recent law, the so-called
11954			"Schriftzeichengesetz" enacted in 1981, that specifically protects
11955			typeface designs. New designs are registered, as is done with
11956			copyright in most countries. This law only protects new, original
11957			designs. It is available to non-German designers and firms. Therefore,
11958			some type firms and designers routinely copyright new designs in West
11959			Germany. This gives a degree of protection for products marketed in
11960			Germany. Since multinational corporations may find it cheaper to
11961			license a design for world-wide use rather than deal with a special case
11962			in one country, the German law does encourage licensing on a broader
11963			scale than would initially seem to be the case.
11964	root	1.387	%
11965	root	1.1	[linux processes vs. nt/solaris threads]
11966			Rob Pike pointed out that the solution to slow process creation is
11967			faster process creation, not another kernel abstraction.
11968	root	1.387	%
11969	root	1.1	Does anybody know how to communicate between a PC and a modem,
11970			using a Perl CGI script?
11971	root	1.387	%
11972	root	1.1	>I really don't know crap about PERL. How is it different from JAVA?
11973
11974			One tiny difference: Java can crash your browser. It happened to me last
11975			week.
11976	root	1.387	%
11977	root	1.1	Brieweb> I heard Randal Schwartz say he could write an entire httpd server in 90 lines
11978			Brieweb> of PERL.
11979			No, that's an http proxy server. A simple web server is much shorter.
11980			From "perldoc HTTP::Daemon"...
11981			[Randal Schwartz]
11982	root	1.387	%
11983	root	1.1	But the possibility of abuse may be a good reason for leaving
11984			capabilities out of other computer languages, it's not a good reason
11985			for leaving capabilities out of Perl.
11986			[Larry Wall in `Macros'. [[perl5-porters]]]
11987	root	1.387	%
11988	root	1.1	Yes: Java's main advantage over Perl is that it's hard to use for casual
11989			programmers, so keeps all but the most intrepid programmers away from it.
11990			It has no decent support for string processing, allowing you to spend
11991			hours at useless debugging. It has a very restrictive and static system
11992			to make sure you don't try anything interesting. It makes sure that you
11993			use objects, by golly, because James Gosling said so. It's easy for C++
11994			programmers to use, and hard for shell or BASIC programmers to use. It
11995			also only runs on a few systems, locking its customers into a a closed
11996			system and restricting their options.
11997			[Tom Christiansen in `Java Vs. Perl']
11998	root	1.387	%
11999	root	1.1	<Bill_Gates> Where do you want to go today?
12000			<Phase_5> Where do go tomorrow?
12001			<BlueFlux> Where were you yesterday?!?!
12002	root	1.387	%
12003	root	1.1	"It's not to control, but to protect the citizens of Singapore. In our
12004			society, you can state your views, but they have to be correct."
12005			Ernie Hai
12006			Coordinator of Singapore Government Internet Project
12007	root	1.387	%
12008	root	1.1	: I very much prefer a useful error message than a "it produced the wrong
12009			: results" report from the users.
12010
12011			if i got even "it produced the wrong results" from our users, i would
12012			be in 7th heaven. ours often mail us with such insightful requests as
12013			"can you tell me my email address?" no, sorry, that should be "CAN U
12014			TEL ME MY E MAIL ADRES DUDE?!!!?? HURRY!!!"
12015	root	1.387	%
12016	root	1.1	There are many intelligent species in the Universe.
12017			They are all owned by cats.
12018	root	1.387	%
12019	root	1.1	Why dignify your unsustainable, unjustifiable, unprovable feeble
12020			attempts at character assassination with anything resembling a reply?
12021			You only make yourself look foolish by mouthing off like that.
12022	root	1.387	%
12023	root	1.1	From: L & K Olson <kolson@mbnet.mb.ca>
12024			Subject: If they wrote error messages in haiku ...
12025
12026			Yesterday it worked
12027			Today it is not working
12028			Windows is like that
12029			- - -
12030			wind catches lily
12031			scatt'ring petals to the wind:
12032			segmentation fault
12033			- - -
12034			Three things are certain:
12035			Death, taxes, and lost data.
12036			Guess which has occurred.
12037			- - -
12038			A file that big?
12039			It might be very useful.
12040			But now it is gone.
12041			- - -
12042			Windows NT crashed.
12043			I am the Blue Screen of Death.
12044			No one hears your screams.
12045			- - -
12046			Errors have occurred.
12047			We won't tell you where or why.
12048			Lazy programmers.
12049			- - -
12050			Seeing my great fault
12051			Through darkening blue windows
12052			I begin again
12053			- - -
12054			The code was willing,
12055			It considered your request,
12056			But the chips were weak.
12057			- - -
12058			Printer not ready.
12059			Could be a fatal error.
12060			Have a pen handy?
12061			- - -
12062			Server's poor response
12063			Not quick enough for browser.
12064			Timed out, plum blossom.
12065			- - -
12066			Chaos reigns within.
12067			Reflect, repent, and reboot.
12068			Order shall return.
12069			- - -
12070			Login incorrect.
12071			Only perfect spellers may
12072			enter this system.
12073			- - -
12074			This site has been moved.
12075			We'd tell you where, but then we'd
12076			have to delete you.
12077			- - -
12078			ABORTED effort:
12079			Close all that you have.
12080			You ask way too much.
12081			- - -
12082			First snow, then silence.
12083			This thousand dollar screen dies
12084			so beautifully.
12085			- - -
12086			With searching comes loss
12087			and the presence of absence:
12088			"My Novel" not found.
12089			- - -
12090			The Tao that is seen
12091			Is not the true Tao, until
12092			You bring fresh toner.
12093			- - -
12094			The Web site you seek
12095			cannot be located but
12096			endless others exist
12097			- - -
12098			Stay the patient course
12099			Of little worth is your ire
12100			The network is down
12101			- - -
12102			A crash reduces
12103			your expensive computer
12104			to a simple stone.
12105			- - -
12106			There is a chasm
12107			of carbon and silicon
12108			the software can't bridge
12109			- - -
12110			To have no errors
12111			Would be life without meaning
12112			No struggle, no joy
12113			- - -
12114			You step in the stream,
12115			but the water has moved on.
12116			This page is not here.
12117			- - -
12118			No keyboard present
12119			Hit F1 to continue
12120			Zen engineering?
12121			- - -
12122			Hal, open the file
12123			Hal, open the damn file, Hal
12124			open it, please Hal
12125			- - -
12126			Out of memory.
12127			We wish to hold the whole sky,
12128			But we never will.
12129			- - -
12130			Having been erased,
12131			The document you're seeking
12132			Must now be retyped.
12133			- - -
12134			The ten thousand things
12135			How long do any persist?
12136			Netscape, too, has gone.
12137			- - -
12138			Rather than a beep
12139			Or a rude error message,
12140			These words: "File not found."
12141			- - -
12142			Serious error.
12143			All shortcuts have disappeared
12144			Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
12145	root	1.387	%
12146	root	1.1	"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way
12147			to factor large prime numbers." -- Bill Gates from "The Road Ahead," p. 265.
12148	root	1.387	%
12149	root	1.1	> What is the Windows equivalent of the first line used for
12150			> UNIX (#!/usr/local/bin/perl) that tells where the Perl interpreter is?
12151
12152			Windows hasn't gotten quite as far in functionality as, say, BSD Unix in the
12153			early 1980s.
12154	root	1.387	%
12155	root	1.1	> I have a chat script, that will work fine for a bit then after a while
12156			> the private messages will stop working. It might be because I changed
12157			> something, but chances are that isn't the case. I re-install a fresh
12158			> copy, paths are correct, and they still don't work
12159
12160			I think you are experiencing GOVERNMENT CONTROL. You see, everyone
12161			with a chat script is being scrutinised by the department of CHAT
12162			control. Whenever they see some message they don't like, they
12163			introduce some little goblin called feature-creep in your program. if
12164			you have lots of these little devils, your program migth acquire so
12165			many new features that it just stops working.
12166
12167			This also applies to Microsoft products.
12168
12169			> Does it make sense for certain features to just not work?! If you can
12170			> help, or have suggestions, get back to me, PLEASE:)
12171
12172			Yes, it makes perfect sense. Especially if they're features which
12173			really are bugs. And especially if they're 'private' messages. You
12174			know perfectly well that the government doesn't like private messages.
12175
12176			Hope this explains what's going on
12177			Martien Verbruggen
12178	root	1.387	%
12179	root	1.1	...code? If you're on a misconfigured NT server (is that redundant?), you...
12180	root	1.387	%
12181	root	1.1	X11R6.1-based free X server compiles, links and crashes under IRIX(TM).
12182	root	1.387	%
12183	root	1.1	-------------- please bite here ------------- bitte hier abbeissen ---------
12184	root	1.387	%
12185	root	1.1	"Frag mal, auf was fuer uptimes man kommt, wenn man Software-Entwicklung
12186			unter NT macht..." "Das koennen bis zu dreissig Minuten werden - in der
12187			Mittagspause." -- Andreas Bogk, Kai Fett, de.alt.sysadmin.recovery
12188	root	1.387	%
12189	root	1.1	> ++ A lot of posters here have .sigs that include perl one liners.
12190			> ++ Is there a safe way to run them, and be assured that they wont
12191			> ++ damage and/or erase files? (or e-mail off my shadow file)
12192			>
12193			> Just make sure you understand it ;)
12194
12195			I nominate Abigail for best response of the year with this one. Come to
12196			think of it, I nominate it for best response of next year, too.
12197	root	1.387	%
12198	root	1.1	Your moderator will be spending the next week on a beach on a small island
12199			where the phones don't work very well, so there won't be any comp.compilers
12200			until the 28th. Any messages you send in will wait here until I get back and
12201			should be posted on March 1st or 2nd.
12202	root	1.387	%
12203	root	1.1	But now, in comp.lang.perl.misc, you have a bunch of people who aren't
12204			even asking how to make the pieces fit together, but what the
12205			individual pieces are. ("How do I get my lego project to roll accross
12206			the table?" "You use one of those pieces that have the wheels
12207			attached.") Or questions that aren't about building at all. ("The
12208			motor stopped moving. How do I get it to start again?" "The batteries
12209			are probably dead. You can buy new batteries at any department or
12210			convienience store.")
12211	root	1.387	%
12212	root	1.1	: how do i make my perl script run?
12213			Get up at 91 minutes before dawn, clothe yourself in neon green body
12214	root	1.387	%
12215	root	1.1	for some reason Windoze users don't seem to expect docs to come with an archive
12216	root	1.424	>>> ToiLeTGoD
12217	root	1.1
12218			Well, well.. I always wondered who/what made that flush thingy work.
12219			Pretty cool name, dude. (not)
12220	root	1.387	%
12221	root	1.1	Ummm...create "comp.lang.perl.wizards", make it moderated and all posts,
12222			including xposts, go into /dev/null. Most FAQers won't have the Usenet
12223			background to understand that such groups are either a) a wasteland
12224			populated (briefly) by persons like themselves, or b) point to /dev/null.
12225	root	1.387	%
12226	root	1.1	Lazy people never bother to actually read the manual. Instead they (like
12227			kids) pick something with big, colorful buttons.
12228			-- Eugene Tyurin <gene@insti.physics.sunysb.edu>
12229	root	1.387	%
12230	root	1.1	The Average Person's Axioms of First Order Predicate Logic:
12231			(A => B) => (B => A)
12232			(There exists) x A(x) => (For all) x A(x)
12233			(A => C) & (B => C) => (A => B) - Warren Vonroeschlaub
12234	root	1.387	%
12235	root	1.1	cal 9 1752
12236	root	1.387	%
12237	root	1.1	Installing unix fixes the [VMS] bug.
12238			-Barry Shein
12239	root	1.387	%
12240	root	1.1	And this horrible free-for-all will be left to children wondering around
12241			by themselves in the dark because they refuse to turn on the light and
12242			read the manual.
12243	root	1.387	%
12244	root	1.1	"SPARC" is "CRAPS" backwards --Rob Pike
12245	root	1.387	%
12246	root	1.1	I increasingly begin to understand why some universities require
12247			that its compsci majors study the Euclid's Prime Number Theorem,
12248			the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, Cantor's Diagonalization Proof,
12249			Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem, and the ramifications of Halting Problem
12250			in everyday life. These may not be involved in daily programming, but
12251			it helps develop a rigorous mind. And it gives those who would progress
12252			from typist to word-processor devotee to HTML documenter to CGI scripter
12253			to distributed multithreaded operating systems design specialist cause
12254			for pause. You just can't do that without proper training.
12255	root	1.387	%
12256	root	1.1	comp.lang.perl.i'm-from-microsoft-so-won't-read-documentation
12257	root	1.387	%
12258	root	1.1	I suggest you install a newsserver, and keep a local spool. Anything else
12259			is too much work, and fairly silly. The Internet has catupulted even
12260			the Wintel victims past the days of BBS toys.
12261	root	1.387	%
12262	root	1.1	> Help help! Pls advise me thru email.
12263
12264			I advise you to buy a new keyboard; one that has all the keys you
12265			need.
12266	root	1.387	%
12267	root	1.1	Christian Fundamentalism: The doctrine that there is an absolutely
12268			powerful, infinitely knowledgeable, universe spanning entity that is
12269			deeply and personally concerned about my sex life.
12270	root	1.387	%
12271	root	1.1	I find the first particularly useful in destroying the miswrapped
12272			lines stemming from brain-damaged "it's just another word processor"
12273			newsreaders. You know,
12274			those postings that always seem to go to the edge of the line and then
12275			back
12276			again to the start, as this paragraph has. These are just too painful
12277			to read. Just kill them. It's not worth your time trying to figure
12278			out what they're saying.
12279	root	1.387	%
12280	root	1.1	It is most annoying to receive junk mail describing how to purchase 93
12281			million addresses, while knowing that yours is one of them.
12282	root	1.387	%
12283	root	1.1	I'm surprised Tom, how could it miss the "X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT;
12284			U)" header line? Personally, I find the attempted use of Netscape as a
12285			newsreader even worse then the attempted use of WinNT as an OS. :-)
12286
12287			But the combination.... sutters
12288	root	1.387	%
12289	root	1.1	Hm... my new killfile isn't detecting you're posting from Windows.
12290			Darn it.
12291	root	1.387	%
12292	root	1.1	At least he didn't post in all caps.
12293	root	1.387	%
12294	root	1.1	http://language.perl.com/CPAN-local/doc/FAQs/cgi/idiots-guide.html
12295	root	1.387	%
12296	root	1.1	I think the biggest problem with M.S.A. is that the scripts work for Matt, but
12297			the majority of people trying to use them are from the
12298			"Wintel/AOL/FrontPage/push-a-button/HTML-is-programming/no-programming-required"
12299			school of non-learning. It isn't a problem with the code, per se, but with those
12300			trying to use it.
12301	root	1.387	%
12302	root	1.1	"Linux can emulate an C64 on my AMDK6PR200 at full speed. Windows can't."
12303	root	1.387	%
12304	root	1.1	cdog wrote:
12305			>
12306			> Is this group active?
12307			No.
12308
12309			If you had spent half a second LOOKING at the group before posting, you
12310			probably could have come to that conclusion yourself.
12311
12312			On a personal note, I died 3 years, 8 days, 5 minutes, 16 seconds, and
12313			345 milliseconds ago, but who's counting.
12314	root	1.387	%
12315	root	1.1	"Security through obscurity is no security at all."
12316			-comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup posting
12317	root	1.387	%
12318	root	1.1	"Windows 95 will now attempt to blow chunks across your primary partition.
12319			Press any key to continue..."
12320	root	1.387	%
12321	root	1.1	NT 5.0 is the last nail in the Unix coffin. Interestingly, Unix
12322			isn't in the coffin... It's wondering what the heck is sealing
12323			itself into a wooden box 6 feet underground...
12324	root	1.387	%
12325	root	1.1	The Wall St Journal (1996-01-22, page 1) reported that Cuba is
12326			considering jumping across the International Date Line, just so that
12327			it's the first into the year 2000. So it's possible you'll have to
12328			adjust your travel plans.
12329	root	1.387	%
12330	root	1.388	"Wo kämen wir hin, wenn alle sagten, wo kämen wir hin, und niemand ginge
12331			hin, um einmal zu schauen, wohin man käme, wenn man ginge." -- Kurt Marti
12332	root	1.387	%
12333	root	1.1	The Takeuchi function is a popular benchmark of function calling due to its
12334			highly recursive nature. It's defined as:
12335
12336			tak x y z = z, if y >= x
12337			= tak (tak (x-1) y z) (tak (y - 1) z x) (tak (z - 1) x y), otherwise
12338
12339			For this benchmark, the function is invoked as:
12340
12341			tak 18 12 6
12342	root	1.387	%
12343	root	1.1	"Nobody will ever need more than 640k RAM!"
12344			-- Bill Gates
12345			"Windows 95 needs at least 8 MB RAM."
12346			-- Bill Gates
12347			"Nobody will ever need Windows 95."
12348			-- logical conclusion
12349	root	1.387	%
12350	root	1.1	Year Name James Bond Book
12351			- ---- -------------------------------- -------------- ----
12352			50's James Bond TV Series Barry Nelson
12353			1962 Dr. No Sean Connery 1958
12354			1963 From Russia With Love Sean Connery 1957
12355			1964 Goldfinger Sean Connery 1959
12356			1965 Thunderball Sean Connery 1961
12357			1967* Casino Royale David Niven 1954
12358			1967 You Only Live Twice Sean Connery 1964
12359			1969 On Her Majesty's Secret Service George Lazenby 1963
12360			1971 Diamonds Are Forever Sean Connery 1956
12361			1973 Live And Let Die Roger Moore 1955
12362			1974 The Man With The Golden Gun Roger Moore 1965
12363			1977 The Spy Who Loved Me Roger Moore 1962 (novelette)
12364			1979 Moonraker Roger Moore 1955
12365			1981 For Your Eyes Only Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
12366			1983 Octopussy Roger Moore 1965
12367			1983* Never Say Never Again Sean Connery
12368			1985 A View To A Kill Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
12369			1987 The Living Daylights Timothy Dalton 1965 (novelette)
12370			* -- Not a Broccoli production.
12371	root	1.387	%
12372	root	1.1	Windows NT: n.
12373			32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit
12374			operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written
12375			by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
12376	root	1.387	%
12377	root	1.388	Auf der Kiste läuft EHNIX, das ist ZUNIX kompatibel.