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1 root 1.444 From: Linus Torvalds
2    
3     And yes, a large part of this may be that I no longer feel like I can
4     trust "init" to do the sane thing. You all presumably know why.
5    
6     [https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/7/6/577]
7     %
8     > How is the old way a problem?
9    
10     That's systemd in a nutshell (and pulseaudio too). Replace well-known
11     things that are not broken with something obscure and clunky that thinks
12     it's smarter than you.
13    
14     [https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9170111&cid=52207557]
15     %
16 root 1.443 Systemd is a cancer and it will keep spreading until the host is
17     dead. Just like cancer it's not malicious, it sincerely believes it knows
18     better than the healthy cells it's infecting, but that doesn't make it
19     less lethal.
20    
21     [https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9552479&cid=52745591]
22     %
23 root 1.442 From: Richard Stallman
24    
25     [...]
26    
27     > then that sounds like a layering violation.
28    
29     The layering authority has no jurisdiction over GNU.
30     If this solution works, and nobody proposes a better one,
31     we won't let "layering" get in the way.
32     %
33 root 1.441 "Teyrnas Unedig Prydain Fawr a Gogledd Iwerddon" shortened to Teyrnas
34     "Unedig" or "Y Deyrnas Unedig" abbreviated "DU", or Rìoghachd Aonaichte
35     "Bhreatainn is Èireann a Tuath" shortened to Rìoghachd Aonaichte" are
36     "also now legal names for the UK.
37    
38     [Brian Inglis in 774ac519-ceb1-7c04-d2b5-2f2ed851cb61@SystematicSw.ab.ca]
39     %
40     From: Russ Allbery
41     To: tz@iana.org
42     Message-ID: <87h97n58bp.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>
43    
44     > Companies are unlikely to change their processes unless changes break
45     > existing processes (like the version change) or changes are documented
46     > in an RFC, which can be presented to SOx auditors and their ilk, to
47     > document and justify why they spent money and changed a process, along
48     > with the documentation on change impact including budget,
49     > authorizations, and the dozens of other side efforts of production
50     > changes, summarized above by DG as "That doesn’t work for everyone."
51    
52     A bit of a digression, but the way companies treat free software projects
53     and maintainers is a pet peeve of mine.
54    
55     It should be obvious that the only people a company can expect to follow
56     any of those rules are people the company is paying or otherwise has a
57     contractual relationship with that requires following those rules.
58     Otherwise, the company should be prepared to pay one of their employees to
59     jump through those hoops if they want those hoops jumped through.
60    
61     It's standard practice for companies who depend heavily on a free software
62     project to have an internal maintainer or advocate for that free software
63     project who will translate whatever the public maintainer does into the
64     form that the company needs to manage it internally, including maintaining
65     private branches as needed, pulling up unreleased patches as needed, and
66     adjusting for upstream changes that don't match the needs of the company
67     (or clearly advocating for compromises or modifications that work for the
68     entire community). This is a cost of doing business. My employer
69     certainly does this for free software we use. It's fairly normal.
70    
71     Some companies don't *want* to spend that money, and try to do it on the
72     cheap by not having that person or the mechanisms for importing free
73     software properly. A few of them then complain at the free software
74     maintainer when they run into problems. But those complaints should not
75     carry any more weight than the complaints of any other user, and should be
76     weighed against the work style, goals, and available time of the free
77     software maintainer. After all, the actor in this situation that has (by
78     far) the most resources and hence the most ability to adopt to changes,
79     whether they want to or not, is the company, not the free software
80     maintainer.
81     %
82 root 1.440 [About the Unicode CLDR (Common Locale Data Repository) project, specifically, timezone names]
83    
84     They also seem to think that abbreviations should be only used locally,
85     such as "BST" only being used by British English. One would think that if
86     an American was talking about DST in the UK they would also use the term
87     "BST", but no:
88     http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8498
89     %
90     To: Time zone mailing list <tz@iana.org>
91     Subject: Re: [tz] Request regarding IANA update for Novosibirsk Time Zone
92    
93     Shruthi Venkataramanan -X (shruthve - WIPRO LIMITED at Cisco) wrote:
94     > When can we expect the updated version
95    
96     About three weeks ago.
97     %
98 root 1.439 [...] trying to make digital files uncopyable is like trying to make water
99     not wet. -- Bruce Schneier
100     %
101     [...] in order to be a good Christian one must first be a great hypocrite.
102    
103     [http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.de/2013/06/the-bible-is-nothing-but-hearsay.html]
104     %
105 root 1.438 Know that you suck, you suck so much that you suck the future you wich
106     was able to go back in time to suck you from the past. You are an
107     neverending paradoxial loop of suckage. Now suck the fuck off.
108    
109     [http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/vats-vs-rtwp.23266/page-2]
110     %
111     From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
112    
113     Arthur David Olson <arthurdavidolson@gmail.com> writes:
114    
115     > From The Economist: "Why time may be running out for the leap second"
116     [http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/11/economist-explains-4]
117    
118     | The first is simple, ancient and intuitive, and based on the rotation of
119     | the Earth, under which each complete rotation (or, equivalently, each of
120     | the Sun's apparent trips through the sky) counts as one day.
121    
122     Of course, these are actually not equivalent; they're different by a
123     full day per year.
124     %
125 root 1.437 Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir
126     de la faire plus courte. -- Blaise Pascal, Provincial Letters : Letter XVI.
127     [I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time.]
128     %
129     File names are infinite in length where infinity is set to 255 characters.
130     -- Peter Collinson, "The Unix File System"
131     %
132     Over the past 20 years - its never been a question of the "perfect
133     storage media vendor" - its been a question of "who has screwed
134     me - lately?".
135     -- JSS, former Amiga HW Engineer, Rework tech of 400,000 defective
136     Seagate HDD's, Class of '94.
137    
138     [http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1095235&cid=26492885]
139     %
140     I also proposed making malloc(0) perfectly fine, since zero is a perfectly
141     fine value. I also, in the same letter, proposed making zero-sized
142     arrays legal, mostly so you could do the extend-the-struct trick for a
143     variable-sized array as the last field of the struct.
144    
145     I got two letters back as answer to my one. #1: Malloc(0) shouldn't work
146     because zero-sized arrays don't work. #2: Zero-sized arrays shouldn't work
147     because malloc(0) doesn't work. Well played, ANSI C committee, and may
148     your lives be a living hell.
149    
150     [Rob Pike in https://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=4142#c2]
151     %
152 root 1.436 Using a screwdriver was not a normal part of the experimental protocol.
153     [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Slotin#Criticality_accident]
154     %
155     Newbie: Hi. I've been using Lisp for about half a year now, programming
156     for three years. I discovered this group and wondered if you could help me
157     out with a problem I'm having?
158    
159     Smug: Hi! Always glad to have new blood. Sure thing, just ask.
160    
161     Snide: Heya New! You bet, ask anything and we'll try to help.
162    
163     Newbie: Okay, I'm trying to filter a list, something like Perl's grep. I
164     want to set up a predicate and have the new list be only those elements
165     from the old list that satisfy it. I know there's some standard idiom for
166     doing this, I just can't find it anywhere...
167    
168     Smug: Perl's grep was inspired by Lisp's higher-order functions, you know. :)
169    
170     Newbie: Oh, cool. :)
171    
172     Smug: But it's inferior since it has balky syntax.
173    
174     Snide: You can do it with (mapcan (lambda (item) (when (predicate item) (list item))) list).
175     [http://c2.com/]
176     %
177     Unfortunately a Russian spy stole the last meg of a LISP program for
178     controlling our nuclear defense systems. Fortunately, it was all
179     right-parenthesis.
180     [http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhyWeHateLisp]
181     %
182     Always wanted to travel back in time to try fighting a younger version of
183     yourself?
184     Software development is the career for you!
185    
186     [https://twitter.com/Loh/status/411282297816498176]
187     %
188 root 1.435 [...] undisguised clarity is easily mistaken for arrogance.
189     -- Richard Dawkins
190     %
191     There are many choices of elliptic-curve signature systems. The standard
192     choice, ECDSA, is reasonable if you don't care about simplicity, speed,
193     and security.
194    
195     [http://blog.cr.yp.to/20140323-ecdsa.html]
196     %
197     [In answer to: "Is the NSA aware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS? The RSA?"]
198    
199     We are unaware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS when properly implemented and
200     used for the purposes for which they both are designed.
201     -— National Security Agency, June 1992
202     %
203     In the past decade there have been many attacks against TLS. With the
204     exception of CRIME, not one of them relied on any results that were not
205     known at the time the TLS 1.0 standard was being written. [...] Every time
206     this standards group has had a choice to make regarding cryptography,
207     they have made the wrong one. [...] Were TLS to be submitted by an
208     undergraduate as a solution to this problem it would earn an F.
209    
210     [http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg10598.html]
211     %
212     tiny hsv2rgb
213     float3 h2r(float h,float s,float v){return lerp(saturate((abs(frac(h+float3(1,2,3)/3)*6-3)-1)),1,s)*v;}
214    
215     vec3 hsv(float h,float s,float v) {
216     return mix(vec3(1.),clamp((abs(fract(h+vec3(3.,2.,1.)/3.)*6.-3.)-1.),0.,1.),s)*v;
217     }
218     %
219     Haha, no FPS counter but rather a "Next frame"-button :)
220     Only Java makes it possible!
221    
222     [http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=7920&page=1]
223     %
224     'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and
225     generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is
226     extremely poettering''
227     %
228     "There is no use in arguing with a man who can multiply anything by the square root of minus 1."
229     -- Pirates of Venus, Edgar Rice Burroughs
230     %
231     "I drank what?!"
232     -- Socrates
233     %
234     It would be bad for OpenPGP to have a standard that could not be
235     implemented on light bulbs (I used to say cell phones, but they're now
236     400MHz devices), forcing the light bulb people to use something else.
237    
238     Jon Callas in
239     http://www.imc.org/ietf-openpgp/mail-archive/msg06396.html
240     %
241     "If you have four groups working on a compiler, you'll get a 4-pass compiler."
242     -- Conway's Law
243     %
244     The mac version doesn't work on older versions of the operating system
245     (this is part of Apple's planned obsolescence hellhole; the latest version
246     of xcode won't build for older systems but I'm forced to update to it
247     because the older ones won't build for newer systems and I've been forced
248     to update the operating system on my ipad so UGH; basically I have to
249     have multiple xcode versions installed and I really can't be bothered
250     untangling this mess right now so).
251    
252     [http://mightyvision.blogspot.de/2013/03/7drl-success-86856527.html]
253     %
254     Option "NoPM" "boolean"
255     Disables something to do with power management events. Default: PM
256     enabled on platforms that support it.
257     [xorg.conf(5)]
258     %
259     > Yes, this would be something _in addition_ to what the FSF does.
260     > Grant money could be used to hire one or two fresh graduates that
261     > would work on code.
262    
263     Graduates in which discipline? Computer science? This sounds to me
264     like the idea to hire one or two fresh graduates in English literature
265     and language with the idea to let them start writing novels.
266     [87liaj740v.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org]
267     %
268 root 1.434 [and that's why I don't support gentoo anymore]
269     As with Francois, I used to use ccache for recompiling packages that
270     hadn’t finished the first time — but for a different reason. At
271     the time, I had overrated memory, and a BIOS without a memory clock
272     option. The system was generally fine, but once in awhile would scramble
273     a memory transfer enough to cause a crash. CCache was a LOT of help in
274     that instance, as it’s what allowed me to even install Gentoo at all —
275     there’s no way I could have gotten thru gcc, (monolitic) X, glibc, or
276     the then unsplit KDE compiles, without it.
277     %
278     Kay, you are so full of sh*t that it's not funny. You're refusing to
279     acknowledge your bugs, you refuse to fix them even when a patch is
280     sent to you, and then you make excuses for the fact that we have to
281     work around *your* bugs, and say that we should have done so from the
282     very beginning.
283     [Linus in http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1369384]
284     %
285     systemd creates user session information in
286     /run/user/$user . I brought up with lennart the fact that this would
287     only permit one session per user. He rejected out of hand the fact
288     that more than one session would ever be needed, because Gnome only
289     allowed one session per user.
290     [http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/04/msg00751.html]
291     %
292 root 1.433 > Mailman archives! IIRC Heiko mentioned that there are more disputes
293     > about Lennart Poettering and his software on ALL mailing lists, than
294     > about anything else.
295     >
296     > Why is it like that?
297    
298     Probably because he has all the arrogance of DJB but none of the skill.
299    
300     [http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/44574]
301     %
302     [from a discussion about GNOME 3 "branding" mentality]
303    
304     >> However, there are a number of serious problems:
305     >>
306     >> 1. Extensions break with every release. As Paolo said earlier, "This is
307     >> simply the result of not (yet) having a defined extension API." Yet this is
308     >> also part of the design: extensions specify versions of gnome-shell they
309     >> work with, so are trivially broken by new versions even if they might work.
310     >
311     > I don't think you understand well why this was designed this way.
312    
313     That's the sort of thing people say to the judge of a serial killer.
314     The reasons don't matter for calling the results terrible.
315     %
316     (partial) Beaufort Table
317     Name # km/h (min) m/s (min)
318     Calm 0 0 0
319     Light Air 1 1.1 0.3
320     Light Breeze 2 5.6 1.6
321     Gentle Breeze 3 12 3.4
322     Moderate Breeze 4 20 5.5
323     Fresh Breeze 5 29 8
324     Strong Breeze 6 39 10.8
325     Moderate Gale 7 50 13.9
326     Fresh Gale 8 62 17.2
327     Strong Gale 9 75 20.8
328     %
329     "I have an open mind (I did consider voting liberal democrat once)."
330     - random imdb forum quote excerpt
331     %
332     "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure
333     sign of a diseased mind." [Terry Pratchett]
334     %
335     The butcher who kills the baby to see how it comes apart did choose his
336     profession because of his sensitive soul. He chose it because death and
337     suffering, blood and gore, appeal to him. Dismembering the baby was always
338     on the cards.
339     %
340     [random comment from amule sources]
341     // trust noone ;-)
342     // lol, useless comment but made me lmao
343     // wtf you guys are weird.
344     %
345 root 1.432 Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid.
346     - Kin Hubbard
347     %
348     [random .sig]
349     I'm a muslim.
350    
351     No I won't email you a bomb if you tick me off, but only because I don't know how to.
352     %
353     [...] don't do a double-take if you cuss in front of a woman. If she's read any
354     of the kernel code (notably arch/sparc/), she's heard of the word "fuck"
355     before.
356    
357     [Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO]
358     %
359     <imho>
360    
361     BASIC - fun! (For small programs at least.)
362     Smalltalk - fun! (Until you have to interact with anything else.)
363     Lisp - fun! (Until your eyeballs fall out from looking at too many parentheses.)
364     Arduino sketches - fun! (As long as they fit on one page.)
365    
366     ObjC - sort of fun...once you understand 200 Cocoa classes.
367     Java - public static void not fun.
368     C++ - definitely not fun. STL seems like it should be fun but it isn't.
369     C - usually not fun.
370    
371     What about modern scripting languages?
372    
373     JavaScript - sort of fun! Until you have to deal with the DOM or various not-fun frameworks.
374     Ruby - fun! Until you try to do something with Rails.
375     Python - fun! Until you try to write a GUI app.
376    
377     </imho>
378    
379     [http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/2/]
380     %
381     "Die deutschen Zensoren------------------- --------------------------
382     Dummköpfe-------- -------------------------------------------"
383     %
384    
385     * GFX_IS_DISPLAY_MODE_SUPPORTED
386     *
387     * This routine sets the specified display mode.
388    
389     n = n%2 ? n : ++n;
390     [plan9, /sys/src/cmd/eqn/paren.c]
391     %
392     # The user is always right.
393     if test "${PATH_SEPARATOR+set}" != set; then
394     [autoconf]
395     %
396     from linux-2.6.37/fs/fcntl.c:
397    
398     /*
399     * We need to detect attempts to do dup2() over allocated but still
400     * not finished descriptor. NB: OpenBSD avoids that at the price of
401     * extra work in their equivalent of fget() - they insert struct
402     * file immediately after grabbing descriptor, mark it larval if
403     * more work (e.g. actual opening) is needed and make sure that
404     * fget() treats larval files as absent. Potentially interesting,
405     * but while extra work in fget() is trivial, locking implications
406     * and amount of surgery on open()-related paths in VFS are not.
407     * FreeBSD fails with -EBADF in the same situation, NetBSD "solution"
408     * deadlocks in rather amusing ways, AFAICS. All of that is out of
409     * scope of POSIX or SUS, since neither considers shared descriptor
410     * tables and this condition does not arise without those.
411     */
412     %
413     Taken straight out of lilo... This way of intermixing case with if (0)
414     was new to me:
415    
416     switch(c)
417     {
418     case 'x': base=16; type |= 4; if(0) {
419     case 'o': base= 8; type |= 4; } if(0) {
420     case 'u': base=10; type |= 4; } if(0) {
421     case 'd': base=-10; }
422     switch(type)
423     {
424     case 0: val=va_arg(ap, short); break;
425     case 1: val=va_arg(ap, int); break;
426     case 2: val=va_arg(ap, long); break;
427     case 4: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned short); break;
428     case 5: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned int); break;
429     case 6: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned long); break;
430     default:val=0; break;
431     }
432     cp = __numout(val,base);
433     if(0) {
434     case 's':
435     cp=va_arg(ap, char *);
436     }
437     %
438     Also, it is not true that UTC-1 is THE civilian time scale. While it
439     is certainly one, physical seconds are as enshrined in law as UTC
440     timestamps. Try arguing that you weren't caught speeding at midnight
441     at the end of the year because the calculation should have used an
442     extra second and see how far you get :-)
443     [Nick Maclaren, in <8ta60d$aq6$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>]
444     %
445     > > Actually it's not fully backward compatible. As I was just reminded, the
446     > > libc `sync' function, which is what the fileutils sync uses (sync is in
447     > > fileutils, not sh-utils), is backward-compatible and thus not synchronous
448     > > (it passes a zero wait flag in file_syncfs).
449     >
450     > Hmm. Hurd sync should use the libc sync function too; it should not
451     > set the wait flag. If it does, that's a bug.
452    
453     It must be a confusing feature, because the code was written by the
454     infamous Michael I. Bushnell (may he rest in peace), who did not write bugs.
455    
456     [from a random discussion about hurd, 199901032206.RAA27962@baalperazim.frob.com]
457     %
458     It is immediately apparent from these figures that moving-arm disks
459     should never be used, neither for paging applications nor for any other
460     heavy-traffic auxiliary memory applications.
461    
462     Peter J. Denning -- Virtual Memory (1970)
463    
464     http://portal.acm.org/ft_gateway.cfm?id=356573&type=pdf&coll=portal&dl=ACM&CFID=15151515&CFTOKEN=6184618
465     %
466     (i was impatient to bikeshed with diego on code indenting... btw this
467     whole indentation rules/enforcement should gone, it's nonsense, i dont
468     know any coder who uses consistent indentation over all his code... only
469     beginner programmers do, sometimes. if anyone wants to read the code in
470     nice indentation, he can anytime run a code formatter with his favourite
471     settings)
472    
473     http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2011-January/104674.html
474     %
475     How do I deal with memory leaks?
476    
477     By writing code that doesn't have any. [...]
478    
479     [From Bjarne Stroustrup's C++ Style and Technique FAQ]
480     %
481     This kind of arguments doesn't really make sense for Fedora. We should
482     ship the best implementation, not the most "tried and true" one.
483    
484     http://www.devheads.net/linux/fedora/development/libjpeg-f14.htm
485     %
486     The situation in the US: If you do anything before 2067 to preserve the
487     recording on a wax-cylinder from 1895, the terrorists win. Do you really
488     hate hard-working American families that much? Thank God Senator Orrin
489     Hatch and the RIAA love America's children more than you do.
490    
491     The situation in Europe: Sound recordings up to 1960 are already in the
492     public domain. The terrorists have won. Our only hope of restoring the
493     justice of eternal and infinite copyright (and therefore saving our own
494     children's lives!) lies in the selfless efforts of the likes of Bono and
495     Cliff Richard, as they cry all the way to the bank about artists not being
496     rewarded for their creativity.
497    
498     Let's hope that by the time you finish reading this sentence, copyright
499     will have been extended another 99 years... you know, to justly compensate
500     that bloke sitting by a mic in 1895. If he'd thought that in 2066
501     librarians would be able to copy his recording without his permission, he
502     would never have made it in the first place.
503    
504     http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52573
505     %
506     "I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in
507     future understand things" -- Jörg Schilling
508     %
509     Nobody has bought freaking 160GB of music from the iTunes store. I figured
510     it out once, conservatively it was like $53,000 of music. And yet somehow
511     Apple has managed to sell tens of millions of iPods with up to 160GB
512     capacity, and even the smaller iPods would cost many thousands of dollars
513     to fill from the iTunes store. The iPod was worthwhile because of piracy.
514    
515     http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/09/intels-walled-garden-plan-to-put-av-vendors-out-of-business.ars?comments=1#comment-20806800
516     %
517     "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
518     Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
519     - Mohandas Gandhi
520     %
521     "And so I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
522     the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the
523     handiwork of the Lord."
524     - Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" Vol. I, chapter 2, Murphy Ed. (p. 46)
525     %
526     Scientific Scrutiny and Disclosure
527    
528     I was wondering how anyone possibly could conclude from this exchange that
529     Lenski was hiding something. I came to the conclusion that some people
530     must not understand how scientific scrutiny works. I wrote a guide.
531    
532     Scientific scrutiny works like this:
533     Scientist A publishes results.
534    
535     Scientist B: A, I tried duplicating your experiment, but parameters x, y,
536     and z that I need were not in your article. I need you to disclose to me
537     x, y, and z that you used at the time. What are they?
538    
539     A: x, y, and z are such and such.
540     B: Using x, y, and z, my result doesn't agree with yours at all. Are you
541     sure you did the procedures that you claimed?
542     A: ...
543     B: You fraud!
544    
545     Scientific scrutiny does not work like this:
546    
547     A publishes results.
548    
549     B: I have Generic Skepticism toward your article. Under code viii of the
550     Publication Criteria, I demand that you give me all of your data!
551     A: ... ok...? It seems that everything you would need is already in the
552     article. Did you have something specific in mind?
553     B: A has refused to attach all data he has ever used for the
554     experiment. He is withholding information and thus hiding something.
555    
556     -- Carafe 01:42, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
557     [http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservapedia:Lenski_affair_talk_1]
558     %
559     [regarding sites requesting visitors to allow advertisements and not block
560     them because they need the money to operate]
561    
562     "The readers are not the customer. The customer is the advertiser, and the
563     readers are the product which that website promises to deliver. But the
564     readers, being the product and not the customer, have no obligation to the
565     site or its bottom line."
566     %
567     "..but a short time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of
568     the Jewish religion before his principles were departed from by those
569     who professed to be his special servants, & perverted into an engine for
570     enslaving mankind, and aggrandizing their oppressors in church & state:
571     that the purest system of morals ever before preached to man has been
572     adulterated & sophisticated, by artificial constructions, into a mere
573     contrivance to filch wealth & power to themselves, that rational men not
574     being able to swallow their impious heresies, in order to force them down
575     their throats, they raise the hue & cry of infidelity, while themselves
576     are the greatest obstacles to the advancement of the real doctrines of
577     Jesus, and do in fact constitute the real Anti-Christ."
578     – Thomas Jefferson to William Baldwin, 19 January 1810 (draft – never sent)
579     %
580     Ignorance is the state of not having the data.
581    
582     Idiocy is the state of having the data, but not being able to process it.
583    
584     Willful ignorance is the state of censoring out all data you don’t want to hear.
585     %
586     ["only those parts in the bible I like are authentic"]
587    
588     >>>> but doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support slavery, genocide,
589     >>>> and the beating of children?
590     >>>
591     >>> Subjugation of women...
592     >>
593     >> "doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support ..." Only for bible
594     >> literalists and those who ignore what Jesus himself taught. By all
595     >> means call out any religious person who is acting immorally but try to
596     >> understand that the rest of us who are trying to follow the Way as best
597     >> as we can don't usually have the clout to wrestle the Falwells and the
598     >> Robertsons and their ilk to the ground. If we can agree on that, then,
599     >> shake partner.
600     >
601     > Ever read Matthew 5:31-32? Jesus said it and taught it.
602     >
603     > He says my wife is an adultress since she divorced her 1st husband all
604     > on account of her not taking his punches and kicks with good-natured
605     > humor. That "pearl of wisdom" also says that I'm an adulterer for
606     > choosing to spend the rest of my life with her.
607     >
608    
609     As written, it seems pretty clear. Until you remember the book of matthew
610     was written decades after Jesus's death based on memories and oral
611     traditions, not to mention translation inaccuracies and ulterior motives
612     of the writers. No one really knows what Jesus really said or what he
613     really meant. It could all be wildly inacurrate. I think the fault is in
614     those who would use those words to justify their shabby treatment of you
615     and your wife.
616     %
617     Atheists care about religion for the same reason other people care about
618     cancer. If you aren't careful, it will kill you, and if you are, it could
619     still kill you. - arestheblue
620     %
621     Once upon a time there was the CAT working group whose name was an
622     abbreviation for "Common Authentication Technology". It produced IETF
623     specifications for GSS-API.
624    
625     It was succeeded by the kitten working group, which has been working on
626     the next-generation GSS-API specifications.
627    
628     There is now a proposal for a MOGGIES working group, which will work on
629     Mechanisms Of Generating Generically Interoperable & Effective Security.
630    
631     [http://fanf.livejournal.com/?style=mine]
632     %
633     [from the minix 3 users guide]
634    
635     ELLE is a simple and clear text editor (once you've figured out the key commands).
636     %
637     [Tips how to deal with complaints when running TOR exit nodes]
638    
639     During the conversation make sure you explain a few points:
640     [...]
641     You are not insane. You may be insane, but we don't want the
642     complaintant to guess this is true.
643     %
644     "One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code."
645     - Ken Thompson.
646     %
647     http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-01-16-50-Math-Project-released.html
648    
649     "Scientific calculations are becoming a reality in Syllable"
650    
651     Dunning-Kruger at its best - the tool that "carries Syllable to
652     universities" can calculate sine and cosine values of integer inputs...
653     source code excerpt:
654    
655     int sn()
656     {
657     char pwr;
658    
659     int input1 = 0;
660     double output1 = 0;
661    
662     system("clear");
663     cout<<"This is the Sin() calculator, please enter a number"<<endl;
664     cin>>input1;
665     output1 = (sin(input1));
666     cout<<"Sin() of"<< input1<<" is: "<<output1<<endl;
667     cout<<"Please press 'a' for recalculate or 'm' to return to main menu"<<endl;
668     cin>>pwr;
669     if(pwr == 'a')
670     sq();
671     if(pwr == 'm')
672     system("pause");
673    
674     }
675     %
676     It allows a web browser and a web server to have a persistent, two-way
677     full-duplex connection using just one TCP connection.
678    
679     [mind-boggling, they provide TCP features with just TCP!!!11]
680    
681     http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-02-22-16-WebSockets-for-Cheyenne-web-server.html
682     %
683     From the "my window manager is boiling bullshit, so you have to fix your
684     app for me" department:
685    
686     From: Evan LeCompte
687    
688     Myself and many other members of the Archlinux community (and anyone using
689     Linux with a tiling window manager for that matter) humbly beg you (the
690     developers) for a single-windowed version of GIMP.
691     %
692     "I will give you credit for having balls. In spite of your comments being
693     a PR ploy based on biased views, you consistently imply that we're just
694     indulging in a PR ploy based on biased views."
695    
696     http://tamino.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/old-news/
697     %
698     "We do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone ...
699     Folks who want porn can buy an Android phone"
700     – Steve Jobs[47]
701    
702     "We can’t adapt European magazines to the standards of Utah."
703     – Mathias Müller von Blumencron (editor of Der Spiegel, warning that
704     the news magazine would not alter its content for the App Store)
705     %
706     The naked truth of it is, I have no shirt.
707     -- William Shakespeare, "Love's Labour's Lost"
708     %
709     Subject: [Gimp-user] Completely off every imaginable topic;)
710     From: Patrick Horgan
711     Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:13:38 -0800
712     To: GIMP Users <gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU>
713    
714     Have you ever noticed that people's progress in using, supporting,
715     writing bug reports for, and sometimes even developing for, writing
716     documentation for, or translating for open source software is paralleled
717     by their progress from top-posting to bottom posting to interlinear
718     posting, to intelligent elision with interlinear posting? I see it on
719     the gimp, and on other lists all the time.
720    
721     [...]
722     %
723 root 1.431 "Logic has made me hated among men"
724     — Peter Abelard
725     %
726     A man said to the universe:
727     "Sir I exist!"
728     "However," replied the universe,
729     "The fact has not created in me
730 root 1.432 A sense of obligation."
731     - Steven Crane
732 root 1.431 %
733     He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool; avoid him.
734    
735     He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a student; teach him.
736    
737     He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep; wake him.
738    
739     He who knows and knows that he knows is a wise man; follow him.
740    
741     – Sanskrit Saying
742     %
743     [anonymised discussion]
744     AGW-Denialist: ... blabla ... Karl Hopper ... blabla ... falsification ...
745     Scientist: Karl Hopper, eh? You're like the energizer bunny of wrong.
746     %
747     [http://www.opengl.org/registry/specs/NV/render_texture_rectangle.txt]
748    
749 root 1.432 Additions to the WGL Specification
750 root 1.431
751     First, close your eyes and pretend that a WGL specification actually
752     existed. Maybe if we all concentrate hard enough, one will magically
753     appear.
754     %
755     "All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust,
756     sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others."
757     - Douglas Adams
758     %
759     I like how whether a German is a "skinhead" or a "pussy", he's still considered a typical German.
760     [http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=21884]
761     %
762     “A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will
763     lose both, and deserve neither” -- Thomas Jefferson
764     %
765     "This is a further proof of the skill of astronomers
766     in fitting a straight line to a circle!"
767     - footnote in "OUR BEST FRIEND, THE COMA CLUSTER"
768     http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Biviano/Biviano_contents.html
769     %
770     Am Grunde eines Problems sitzt immer ein Deutscher (Voltaire)
771     %
772     "I'm Prime Minister of Canada, I live here and I'm going to take a leak."
773     - Lester Pearson in 1967, during a meeting between himself and
774     President Lyndon Johnson, whose Secret Service detail had taken over
775     Pearson's cottage retreat. At one point, a Johnson guard asked
776     Pearson, "Who are you and where are you going?"
777     %
778     It's a known fact that not a single competent, experienced, skilled
779     programmer in the world uses an IDE, nor has used one at any point in his
780     or her career.
781     [http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl/?node_id=636318]
782     %
783     It was stated that WIMPs and MACHOs were in the category of particle known
784     as "Fabricated Ad hoc Inventions Repeatedly Invoked in Efforts to Defend
785     Untenable Scientific Theories" (FAIRIE DUST).
786     %
787     I LOVE YOU
788     ["authentication succeeded" protocol token used by cvs pserver]
789     %
790     General consensus seems to be 2.6.18 is where the manure intersected with
791     the air impeller.
792    
793     Alan Cox
794     %
795     "I'm being elitist: awesome 3 is designed for power users
796     with a minimum computer science background."
797     %
798     From: Eric Sosman
799     Newsgroups: comp.std.c
800     Subject: Re: about graphics
801    
802     prince wrote:
803     > how to get command over graphics in c language?
804    
805     #include <stdio.h>
806     int main(void) {
807     puts("graphics\rcommand");
808     return 0;
809     }
810     %
811     I tried the Vista speech recognition by running the tutorial. I was
812     amazed, it was awesome, recognised every word I said. Then I said the
813     wrong word ... and it typed the right one. It was actually just
814     detecting a sound and printing the expected word! -- pbhj on /.
815     %
816     [Bodo Moeller in http://groups.google.com/group/sci.crypt/msg/e79e65ed9077d0ba]
817    
818     While the 2^128 step search talks a very long time indeed,
819     it still is a constant-time attack.
820     %
821     "Verleumdung mußt Du frech betreiben, es wird schon etwas hängenbleiben!"
822     -- Karl Joseph Simrock
823     %
824     From: David Damerell
825    
826     Quoting Epic Campaigns <NoS...@NoSpamMe.com>:
827     >Because C# is case sensitive, you can use the same name with different
828     >caps to make it different.
829    
830     Alternatively you could set your nose hair on fire, which will also be
831     painful but will take less typing.
832     %
833     Well, I think comparing Common Lisp to Scheme is prima facie evidence
834     of ill will, even if Common Lisp wins. It is somewhat like a supposed
835     compliment like "man, you are even smarter than George W. Bush".
836    
837     Erik Naggum in 3231422371368070@naggum.net
838     %
839     From: Hans-Jürgen Koch
840    
841     > The GPL places additional restrictions on code. It is therefore less
842     > free than the BSD.
843     >
844     > Free code + restrictions = non-free code.
845    
846     The legal restriction that people must not enter your house uninvited
847     by smashing the door adds to your freedom, don't you think so?
848     %
849     [C++ doesn't have the monopoly on hard-to-read diagnostics]
850    
851     State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘(void (*)(struct CoroSLF *, struct CV *,
852     struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
853     from incompatible pointer type
854     State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 3 of ‘(void (*)(struct CoroSLF *, struct CV *,
855     struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
856     makes pointer from integer without a cast
857     State.xs:1927: error: too few arguments to function ‘(void (*)(struct CoroSLF *,
858     struct CV *, struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
859     %
860     The idea that governments have rights is absurd. People have rights. The
861     people have delegated certain tasks to government for their own
862     convenience, and have accepted limits on some minimal subset of their
863     rights so that society can best protect the rest. Note that "society" is
864     not the same as "the government"; the government is just a mechanism used
865     by society to accomplish certain specific things.
866    
867     [Chandon Seldon]
868     %
869     [Wikipedia]
870     Differences between vi and Emacs
871    
872     The neutrality of this article is disputed.
873     %
874     [lost the reference]
875     Remember that openssl is generally the upper
876     bound on how difficult a library can be to use.
877     %
878     "Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it's pointless
879     to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and
880     elitist. No novices asking stupid questions."
881     %
882     [aol 4tw, messages are edited for readability]
883    
884     Subject: Re: fcrack help
885     From: puezalb024@aol.com
886     Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:27:46 -0500
887     To: schmorp@schmorp.de
888     X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
889    
890     well how about making the manual more accessable u fukin cumtwat. take
891     ur shitty software n shove it homo. this program sux anyway. i wouldnt
892     have to read a manual if you actually knew how to create a good piece of a
893     working program you stupid fuck. n let me tell you thats a good way to get
894     your name out there or your software, just tel the customer their wrong,
895     yeah, thatll work. may you rot in piss, if your head was on fire i would
896     piss on your leg.
897    
898     ?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
899     maybe you should go to school and learn how to spell cuz who the fuck
900     spells marK with a c? musta been a baby of a couple retards
901    
902     [then, a day later]
903    
904     Subject: Re: fcrack help
905     From: puezalb024@aol.com
906     Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:02:20 -0500
907     To: schmorp@schmorp.de
908     X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
909    
910     just kno that your an idiot. dont be mad at me cuz your mommy n daddy cant
911     aford to buy you aol, its not my problem. like anyone is going to read
912     your stupid post anyway.. noone likes your program, how about you read the
913     previous posts n then we'll see. so you just keep sitting in your basement
914     all by your lonesome?wasting your time making useless software buddy, cuz
915     quiet frankly i could give 2 shits. oh yeah if you plan on posting my
916     response make sure you dont edit nothing and include ALL of my response u
917     fucking nerd. why dont you put it on ur myspace as well, print up a couple
918     copies n post em on your walls too buddy
919    
920    
921     -----Original Message-----
922     From: Marc Lehmann <schmorp@schmorp.de>
923     To: puezalb024@aol.com
924     Sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 2:17 am
925     Subject: Re: fcrack help
926    
927    
928    
929     On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 07:27:46PM -0500, puezalb024@aol.com wrote:
930 root 1.432 >
931 root 1.431 > ?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
932    
933     I was suspecting that aol users have, uhm, issues, but that's just hilarious :->
934    
935     Note that I will publish your response so other people can share the fun,
936     I hope you don't object :)
937     %
938     >Dummerweise steht es auch in der Welt der Wunder Zeitschrift und die ist
939     >dafür bekannt Fakten zu liefern.
940    
941     You made my day
942     %
943     [http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0810.1/2945.html]
944    
945     Names are important. In fact, naming is often _more_ important than the
946     implementation is. And that means that the implementation should follow
947     the naming, or the implementation is wrong.
948    
949     Linus
950     %
951     The ultimate hipocrisy is when people send you mails like this:
952    
953     From: Christian Walde <mithaldu@yahoo.de>
954    
955     I'll be utterly blunt now and ask this in advance: Are you being an asshole on purpose? If so, please just stop reading now and ignore a person trying t ...
956    
957     [lots of kilobyte-sized single-line paragraphs omitted]
958    
959     As too many people send me top- and fully-quoted
960     emails, here is a guide on how to be considerate
961     when sending emails to other people:
962     http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
963    
964     [which states to not use more than, say, 72 columns per line]
965    
966     [mail quoted with permission btw.]
967     %
968     * k-god tries to think of the one mutt enhancement he'd like...
969     <k-god> OK. Two. One: A backscratcher.
970     <brendan> I believe muttng has one of those
971     <k-god> Two: An implementation of the Internet Face Stab Protocol for MS Outlook lusers.
972     <brendan> and I think outlook does that on its own :)
973     %
974     I had some issues though, functions like tmpfile() could only
975     be used if run as administrator in windows.
976    
977     Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <n.mavrogiannopoulos@gmail.com>
978     %
979     [on italy]
980    
981     #24. fallingstones - 08-10 03:51
982    
983     @youruncledarnell: First, sorry for my very bad English. Yes, the
984     majority of Italians are totally idiot, otherwise the Prime Minister
985     wouldn't be Silvio Berlusconi, and of course also the justice is not
986     only politicized, but also spectacularized.
987    
988     Not only. We've the only nation in all EU having a State-controlled
989     corporation on copyright (SIAE). This corporation have also hated
990     by a lot of artists, Italian and foreigner, 'cause the division of
991     funds is "strange". If some of you can understand a lot of Italian, I
992     suggest viewing an old service on Italian TV program "Report" talking
993     on SIAE. You can read and viewing it on this url (sorry for long url)
994    
995     http://www.report.rai.it/R2_popup_articolofoglia/0,7246,243%255E90082,00.html
996    
997     Our legislation on copyright is basically on a law of 1943, approved
998     during WWII by fascism and signed by the king. We're a Republic since
999     1948 and our Costitution dislike fascism, but we've conserved all laws
1000     from fascism period.
1001    
1002     We don't admit officially other copyright licenses, like GPL or CC,
1003     cause "legally" every creation would be registered in SIAE, giving to
1004     them all rights (also rights of persecuting uses not authorized). An
1005     author of a song can't authorize itself a pianist for playing his
1006     song. If the song is registered in SIAE (and if isn't, isn't legally
1007     created, and the author isn't recognized) the pianist MUST pay the
1008     royalties, that eventually will be refunded to him by the author (if
1009     they are accorded) when, after a lot of MONTHS, he receive it from
1010     SIAE.
1011    
1012     We've also some laws against Freedom of Speech, for example our penal
1013     code include apology law, that pratically means you can't say why
1014     you consider wrong a penal law. People can ask (with a lot of signs)
1015     elections for deleting a law, but not for a penal law, or better can't
1016     explain why that law it's wrong and would be deleted. If you can't
1017     explain, you'll obviously will not found never other people signing
1018     your petition (and you need at least 500, and with a REAL signs, not
1019     electronic ones
1020    
1021     #25. fallingstones - 08-10 03:52
1022    
1023     Then, only parties have sufficient funds for these things, and we
1024     don't have a party sufficiently interested in freedom of speech
1025     (on internet and not). 'Cause limiting Freedom of Speech included
1026     CONTROL. We've the last western country in Freedom of Speech (at least
1027     based on Freedomhouse annual statistic), the only "Partly Free" in
1028     western country.
1029    
1030     I'm so sorry for being Italian, for our very stupid justice, for our
1031     very bad country laws and on all for our very stupid prime minister,
1032     but trust me, I can assure you we don't be ALL so stupid. In last
1033     elections, with an absurd law on elections, other parties have been
1034     deleted from parliament. Now we've only two main coalitions, the
1035     Berlusconi's one and the Veltroni's one. All of them have approved
1036     laws against freedom on internet, and generally against technology
1037     innovations. For these reason, all the last governments are fascists,
1038     also the governments of "center-left".
1039    
1040     Again, sorry you and all for my bad English. I hope you can understand.
1041    
1042     If I can, I suggest Brokep creating a guide for using TOR, a little
1043     great program (and it's free) for surfing the net anonymously and
1044     without any restriction.
1045    
1046     Brokep and all TPB staff, go forward forever. You're my personal myth,
1047     and the hope that good people using brain like you exists into the
1048     world.
1049    
1050     Long life to the Bay, forever.
1051     Sorry for the long message and sorry if I'm using TOR, I hope you understand.
1052     Thank you for reading.
1053     %
1054     > > don't even attempt to compare the nvidia driver support to ati's craptacular drivers.
1055     >
1056     > don't even attempt to post a useful comment
1057    
1058     How very ironic.
1059     %
1060     With or without religion, we would have good people doing good things and
1061     evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that
1062     takes religion."
1063    
1064     --Steve Weinberg
1065     %
1066     http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/en/why-not-use_java.xhtml
1067     %
1068     [Kurt Roecks on his change that had totally broken openssl for two years in debian]
1069     [Folks, fix valgrind bugs in your code, not in other people's code,]
1070     [if you don't understand how valgrind works]
1071    
1072     "I've ran all the regression test thru valgrind, using the memset()
1073     solves most of those. As far as I know, commenting out those 2 calls
1074     solved all the warnings valgrind reported."
1075     %
1076     [From: "H.Merijn Brand"]
1077     The more I (have to) work with java, the more I am convinced perl is
1078     the right tool for me.
1079     %
1080     [deliantra]
1081     02:58:42 [Kyle] my summoned pets ate my rod of show invisible
1082     %
1083     I pretend to work because the Soviet government pretends to pay me.
1084     %
1085     cerebro ~# fuser -km /wd_old
1086     /wd_old: 5270c 12266c 12274c 12275
1087     Suddenly the Dungeon collapses!! - You die...
1088     %
1089     From the CFA633 datasheet:
1090    
1091     * Do not eat the LCD panel.
1092     %
1093     >> Well, in German there is no "sports" but just "Sport".
1094     >> So by that little S at the end of sports, you could tell it's English.
1095    
1096     It's the same in English as it is in German; the little S at the end
1097     actually tells you it's *American*.
1098     %
1099     [better do not hire this programmer]
1100     From: Tony Jackson <tj76351@gmail.com>
1101     Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
1102     Subject: Avoiding dereference of NULL pointer
1103    
1104     Hi
1105    
1106     I'm quite new to C programming - I have more of a Java background: maybe
1107     someone here can advise me.
1108    
1109     I'm nearly finishing a little program but it has some hard-to-find bugs
1110     that basically lead to a couple pointers sometimes being NULL at the
1111     wrong time. As it stands the program just bombs out when it tries to
1112     dereference the NULL, which obviously isn't good (especially when it
1113     happens with the customer looking on!!).
1114    
1115     I don't think there's any serious problem to worry about, and what I'd
1116     like to do is be able to ignore the dereference attempt and just carry
1117     on - probably the next time round the loop the pointer will be OK. In
1118     Java, I'd put a try block around the main loop, and if we catch an
1119     exception then just jump back to the start of the main loop. What's the
1120     corresponding thing in C?
1121    
1122     Thanks!
1123     %
1124     [from mozilla 1.7b sources]
1125    
1126     // See bug 53763.
1127     nsCOMPtr<nsIViewManager> kungFuDeathGrip;
1128     nsIPresShell *shell = doc->GetShellAt(0);
1129     if (shell) {
1130     kungFuDeathGrip = shell->GetViewManager();
1131     %
1132     [the beginning, and most common codepath, of getpid() on my linux 2.6
1133     amd64 box in a program using glibc 2.3's pthreads. thats fucking cool]
1134    
1135     0x000000300049af30 <getpid+0>: mov %fs:0x94,%edx
1136     0x000000300049af38 <getpid+8>: cmp $0x0,%edx
1137     0x000000300049af3b <getpid+11>: mov %edx,%eax
1138     0x000000300049af3d <getpid+13>: jle 0x300049af41 <getpid+17>
1139     0x000000300049af3f <getpid+15>: repz retq
1140     %
1141     (A lot of this OPM stuff seems to come straight from the twilight
1142     zone. It's normal to have error codes indicating that there was a disk
1143     error or that a network packet got garbled, but I'm sure Windows Vista
1144     must be the first OS in history to have error codes for things like
1145     “display quality too high”).
1146    
1147     [http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html]
1148     %
1149     Subject: Re: The right answer of -1^2 is?
1150    
1151 root 1.432 > I don't think there's a real Right Way here other than reintroducing a
1152 root 1.431 > mechanism for explicitly signaling the grouping. Maybe parentheses? ;)
1153    
1154     Nah. Use whitespace, like Fortress. Then you can distinguish between
1155    
1156     x / y * z
1157    
1158     and
1159    
1160     x / y * z
1161    
1162     That'll *never* cause problems, right? :)
1163    
1164     (To be fair, I like Fortress. However, it did have some, er, unique
1165     design decisions.)
1166     %
1167     endergt:
1168     > snoofle:
1169     > > Every system (*nix, PC's, etc.) has a hex
1170     > > editor with a string-search capability - really not that hard if
1171     > > you understand what you are doing...
1172     >
1173 root 1.432 > Out of curiosity - what is the hex editor on a default Windows installation?
1174 root 1.431
1175 root 1.432 debug
1176 root 1.431 %
1177     C# is for people who want to have one arm strapped behind their back because it reduces the probability of making a mistake by 50%.
1178    
1179     Java is for people who prefer to have the arm chopped off.
1180     %
1181     Steve Loughran: "The EU interop laws often come up in discussion, and they
1182     are interesting. They say that you are allowed to do reverse engineering
1183     for hardware interop. Not software: hardware."
1184    
1185     Not sure what you're talking about, but Council Directive 91/250/EEC seems
1186     pretty clear to me (or as clear as legal texts can be to me...): "Article
1187     6 Decompilation
1188    
1189     1. The authorization of the rightholder shall not be required where
1190     reproduction of the code and translation of its form within the meaning
1191     of Article 4 (a) and (b) are indispensable to obtain the information
1192     necessary to achieve the interoperability of an independently created
1193     computer program with other programs, provided that the following
1194     conditions are met: [...]"
1195     %
1196     http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/
1197     %
1198     Why Linux Sux ?
1199    
1200     Easy .
1201     Security : most hackable operating systems are unix based .
1202     Portability : try installing unix on cutting edge hardware . bad luck it won`t work . install windows (the oldest) on any ... it will .
1203     Help : try get help for linux . after exploring tons of sites and forums the help you got is useless . for windows you just call them .
1204     Applications : we all know there are more and more on windows . linux will probably never get so many .
1205     GUI : we know how customisable is the windows gui . and how stable .
1206     Gaming : ...anyone got an ideea of a linux game that is really cool ?
1207     Cost : install linux as server ... it is free no ? but you have to pay a sysadmin . or learn a lot . buy a lot of books . using windows ... just click next . if you are not dumb you might make it secure too (reading help does HELP! ) .
1208     Virus : due to the fact that windows is so flexible it is logcal to have viruses . afterall the human body has more than a monkeys one .
1209     Stability : reboot windows 100 times by using the case button . perhaps a scandisk will appear . reboot linux ... ups kernel panic .
1210    
1211     You don`t have money for OS ? Work ! Oh you hate miscrosoft and bill gates
1212     no ? Sure thing ... stupid and lazy people generally hate smart and hard
1213     working ones . Screw linux users .
1214     %
1215     19:26:03 <schmorp> did you know the us is officially metric? for over 100 years, too?
1216     19:26:27 -cfbot:#cf- [moerderer] it is also officially a democracy, go figure
1217     19:26:34 <schmorp> good point :)
1218     %
1219     > The Dell 30"...
1220    
1221     It is big, but some of the reviews have not been so glowing, or rather,
1222     the glowing has been highly asymmetric.
1223     %
1224 root 1.432 Re: USA- an underdeveloped country with potentials
1225 root 1.431
1226     > > u don´t use your wealth with responsibility, you only think about yourself and shrug your shoulders with comments like, "we all have the same chance", I´m a selfmade man", "everyone has to take care of themselves".
1227 root 1.432 >
1228 root 1.431 > yeah, that's why your little brothers decided to save the world - including your grandparents' sorry asses - from hitler, because we think only of ourselves!
1229 root 1.432 >
1230 root 1.431 > your welcome, pinhead!
1231 root 1.432
1232 root 1.431 Even though I´m tired of hearing "we saved your a *beep* during ww2 I will respond.
1233    
1234     1. Did you? Or did your great grandfathers? Maybe they were better?
1235     2. You came into the war very late, and that was strictly for buisness reasons. You need countries to trade with. The true hero in WW2 was actually Russia doing alot more then US ever did, not saying that I support Russia today.
1236     3. One good thing in the past doesn´t make up for bad things in your society today.
1237 root 1.432 4. With those retorics you will never learn anything from your own mistakes since you always can go back and talk about your effort 100 years ago.
1238 root 1.431 %
1239     [discussion about some changes in windows longhorn]
1240     Let's hope that some day Microsoft will catch up to what the
1241     public-domain tz code was doing back in 1986. (Good work, Arthur!)
1242     %
1243     ntfs ist dennoch für datei und ordnersicherheit zuständig.
1244    
1245     Zum Beispiel unter Linux wenn man auf fat32 festplatten zugreifen will ist
1246     es kein problem, wenn man aber die festplatte auf ntfs convertiert hat,
1247     dann funktioniert dass nicht mehr der zugriff auf die festplatte.
1248    
1249     Denn das ist die sicherheit vor zugriffen auf daten von anderen usern und
1250     anderen betriebssystemen.
1251    
1252     Habe fat32 festplatte gehabt(zugriff von linux möglich) dann habe ich es
1253     auf ntfs umconvertiert und dann ging es nicht mehr.
1254    
1255     habe nochmal in meinen unterlagen nachgeschlagen, haben erst ca. vor 3
1256     Wochen die Unterlagen vom Lehrer bekommen und ich sag nochmal, zittiere
1257     Lehrer: Fat32 sollte man heutzutage nicht mehr verwenden außer man hat
1258     Windows 98 und man möchte Dualbootkonfiguration erzielen. NTFS ist
1259     einfach für bessere Sicherheit zuständig.
1260    
1261     Frage?
1262     Hast du Windows und Linux beides auf deinem Laptop oder Standpc?
1263     Wenn ja hattest du vorher eine fat32 festplatte?
1264     Hast du sie dann auf ntfs umconvertiert?
1265    
1266     Freundlichen Grüße von Vista-Ultimate-Besitzer
1267     %
1268     "In this time of war against Osama bin Laden and the oppressive
1269     Taliban regime, we are thankful that OUR leader isn't the spoiled son
1270     of a powerful politician from a wealthy oil family who is supported by
1271     religious fundamentalists, operates through clandestine organizations,
1272     has no respect for the democratic electoral process, bombs innocents,
1273     and uses war to deny people their civil liberties." --The Boondocks
1274     %
1275     19:35:41 <elmex> dieses 'restore session' is soo sinnlos bei firefox
1276     19:35:54 <elmex> wenn die webseite die ihn gecrasht hat immer weieder crasht
1277     19:36:18 <schmorp> tja, bei mir restored er trotz einstellung nie etwas
1278     19:36:24 <schmorp> fragt sich wer mehr glück hat
1279     %
1280     What has happened is that Dave Winer got off a rant against JSON as
1281     reinventing XML's (and more specifically XML-RPC's) wheel:
1282    
1283     God bless the re-inventers
1284    
1285     Gotta love em, because there's no way they're going to stop breaking
1286     what works, and fixing what don't need no fixing
1287    
1288 root 1.432 Crockford gets off a very pithy response:
1289 root 1.431
1290     The good thing about reinventing the wheel is that you can get a round
1291     one.
1292     %
1293     [rfc2665]
1294     The dot3StatsEtherChipSet object has now been deprecated.
1295     Implementation feedback indicates that this object is much more
1296     useful in theory than in practice.
1297     %
1298     15:40:51 <elmex> son buero is faszinierend
1299 root 1.432 15:41:08 <elmex> staendig hoerste leute seuftzen und jammern, und in 90% der faelle hats
1300 root 1.431 mit windows zu tun
1301     15:41:15 <elmex> oder mit software die dort laeuft
1302     15:41:37 <elmex> irgendwem is heut mrogen die mail inbox verloren gegangen
1303     15:41:47 <elmex> und hat sie dann wiedergefunden
1304     15:41:49 <elmex> irgendwie
1305     15:41:50 <elmex> irgendwo
1306 root 1.432 15:42:07 <elmex> achja, und backups gabs auch keine mehr, seit sich die passwoerter
1307 root 1.431 geaendert haben :->
1308     15:42:19 <elmex> (also seit wenigen tagen)
1309 root 1.432 15:47:10 <elmex> es ist auch erstaunlich wie wenig arbeit eigentlich so erledigt wird nach
1310 root 1.431 15:30
1311     15:47:48 <elmex> (mit ausnahmen)
1312     15:48:13 <elmex> aber 50-80% der zeit wird mit kommunikation verbracht
1313     %
1314     [http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=895394]
1315     The SparcStation2 technical docs recommend catting your /vmunix file to /dev/audio as a speaker test.
1316     If you go nearly deaf from the painful noise, then your speaker works.
1317     %
1318     http://www.azillionmonkeys.com/qed/optimize.html
1319    
1320     Strictly for beginners
1321    
1322     Techniques you might not be aware of if you have not been programming for the past 15 years of your life:
1323     [...]
1324     %
1325     http://tmbo.org/offensive/images/picpile/Welcome%20to%20paradise%21.jpg
1326     %
1327     17:34:47 <elmex> hab gehoert solaris soll GPL werden, oder zumindest denkt sun drueber nach :->:
1328     17:34:53 <schmorp> ja klar
1329     17:34:57 <schmorp> alles was lebenszeitende hat
1330     17:34:58 <schmorp> wird gpl
1331     17:35:02 <schmorp> weil sie denken, dann wirds übelreben
1332     17:35:05 <schmorp> bei mozilla hats auch gwekappt
1333     17:35:08 <elmex> hehe
1334     17:35:13 <schmorp> und die brrowserentwicklung unter linux locker ein jahr verzögert
1335     17:35:46 <elmex> dann kann joerd schilling ja endlich sein lieblings system entwickeln :-
1336     17:35:48 <elmex> :->
1337     17:35:58 <schmorp> macht er doch schon die ganze zeit
1338     17:36:02 <schmorp> chillingos, bzw.
1339     17:36:18 <elmex> uh
1340     17:36:53 <schmorp> ich finds nicht mehr
1341     17:36:57 <schmorp> er arbeitet jedenfalls dran
1342     17:38:27 <schmorp> SchilliX
1343     17:38:29 <schmorp> genau!
1344     17:38:30 <schmorp> :)
1345     17:38:33 <elmex> sueees
1346     17:38:34 <schmorp> http://developer.berlios.de/projects/schillix/
1347     17:39:59 <zaphod> omg das ist nicht wahr
1348     17:40:20 <schmorp> ihr kennt die geheimnisse und wunder unserer welt nicht
1349     17:40:32 <zaphod> das kann bestimmt CDs brennen wie nix anderes
1350     17:40:42 <elmex> lol
1351     17:41:06 <schmorp> :)
1352     %
1353     [A Gentoo User]
1354     First FreeBSD is UNIX. Yes FreeBSD runs beter then all other Linux
1355     distro’s but FreeBSD lacks any graphical features(stolen linux features
1356     doesn’t count) so it is only ment for guys with an old grey beards.
1357     [...] That’s why for geeks/nerds/professionals (like me) bsd exists [...]
1358     Gentoo is ment for professionals that need a system for a really exact
1359     environment and think LFS is to much work.
1360     [http://www.playingwithwire.com/2007/01/why-gentoo-shouldnt-be-on-your-server/]
1361     %
1362     20:08 <schmorp> my guess is, purely practically
1363     20:08 <schmorp> if copyright/patent law continues to go away from the original reasons
1364     20:08 <schmorp> that they were created for
1365     20:08 <schmorp> you will at one point have a civil war
1366     20:08 <schmorp> right now, you already have large-scale civil disobedience
1367 root 1.432 20:10 <scortch> i very much hope that it can be turned around before that happens. not the
1368     least reason is, in a Blade Runner dystopia, there isnt a lot that individuals
1369 root 1.431 can do
1370     20:11 <scortch> i.e. militarily
1371     20:11 <scortch> ah wait.
1372     20:12 <scortch> we are forgetting that low technology solutions are always around
1373     20:12 <schmorp> terrorism :)
1374     20:12 <schmorp> now i finally see the whole plot
1375     20:13 <scortch> that's quite a story
1376     %
1377     23:49 <ruskie> in my experience apart from a few exceptions all gentoo people are rude
1378 root 1.432 23:58 <Err> it seems logical that there is a strong correlation
1379     between (people who like to waste their time, and their computer's
1380     processing time, rebuilding things that have been built a million
1381 root 1.431 times before) and (idiots)
1382     23:58 <Err> (parenthesized for easy parsing ;-) )
1383 root 1.432 23:59 <Err> there are certainly exceptions to every rule - but in
1384     general, gentoo users think that they're getting magical properties
1385 root 1.431 out of rebuilding the same code everybody else builds
1386     %
1387     [http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/]
1388     Bruce Schneier decrypted the Bible. The plaintext read, "Bruce Schneier".
1389     %
1390     [http://www.mail-archive.com/cygwin-patches@cygwin.com/msg03644.html]
1391    
1392     Internet Explorer: KB329781 "HTTP File Upload Operation Takes a Long Time
1393     to Complete". The printing subsystem: KB816627 "TCP/IP port printing may
1394     be slow in Windows 2000"
1395    
1396     In the first KB microsoft amusingly states in relation to the fact that
1397     upload speed is limited to 80kbps no matter what the network bandwidth
1398     that "this behaviour is by design". The mind boggles...
1399     %
1400     [so much for type-safety]
1401     List<Integer> lst = new ArrayList<Integer>;
1402     lst.add(null);
1403     int x = 1 + lst.get(0);
1404     %
1405     [just for reference]
1406     Wenn man weiss, dass man in seinem Leben nicht mehr Glücklich werden
1407     kann, und sich von Tag zu Tag die Gründe dafür häufen, dann bleibt
1408     einem nichts anderes übrig als aus diesem Leben zu verschwinden. Und
1409     dafür habe ich mich entschieden. Es gibt vielleicht Leute die hätten
1410     weiter gemacht, hätten sich gedacht "das wird schon", aber das wird
1411     es nicht.
1412    
1413     Man hat mir gesagt ich muss zur Schule gehen, um für mein leben zu
1414     lernen, um später ein schönes Leben führen zu können. Aber was bringt
1415     einem das dickste Auto, das grösste Haus, die schönste Frau, wenn es
1416     letztendlich sowieso für’n Arsch ist. Wenn deine Frau beginnt dich zu
1417     hassen, wenn dein Auto Benzin verbraucht das du nicht zahlen kannst, und
1418     wenn du niemanden hast der dich in deinem scheiss Haus besuchen kommt!
1419    
1420     Das einzigste was ich intensiv in der Schule beigebracht bekommen habe
1421     war, das ich ein Verlierer bin. Für die ersten jahre an der GSS stimmt
1422     das sogar, ich war der Konsumgeilheit verfallen, habe danach gestrebt
1423     Freunde zu bekommen, Menschen die dich nicht als Person, sondern als
1424     Statussymbol sehen. Aber dann bin ich aufgewacht! Ich erkannte das die
1425     Welt wie sie mir erschien nicht existiert, das sie eine Illusion war,
1426     die hauptsächlich von den Medien erzeugt wurde. Ich merkte mehr und
1427     mehr in was für einer Welt ich mich befand. Eine Welt in der Geld alles
1428     regiert, selbst in der Schule ging es nur darum. Man musste das neuste
1429     Handy haben, die neusten Klamotten, und die richtigen "Freunde". hat
1430     man eines davon nicht ist man es nicht wert beachtet zu werden. Und diese
1431     Menschen nennt man Jocks. Jocks sind alle, die meinen aufgrund von teuren
1432     Klamotten oder schönen Mädchen an der Seite über anderen zu stehen. Ich
1433     verabscheue diese Menschen, nein, ich verabscheue Menschen.
1434    
1435     Ich habe in den 18 Jahren meines Lebens erfahren müssen, das man nur
1436     Glücklich werden kann, wenn man sich der Masse fügt, der Gesellschaft
1437     anpasst. Aber das konnte und wollte ich nicht. Ich bin frei! Niemand darf
1438     in mein Leben eingreifen, und tut er es doch hat er die Konsequenzen zu
1439     tragen! Kein Politiker hat das Recht Gesetze zu erlassen, die mir Dinge
1440     verbieten, Kein Bulle hat das Recht mir meine Waffe wegzunehmen, schon gar
1441     nicht während er seine am Gürtel trägt.
1442    
1443     Wozu das alles? Wozu soll ich arbeiten? Damit ich mich kaputtmaloche um
1444     mit 65 in den Ruhestand zugehen und 5 Jahre später abzukratzen? Warum
1445     soll ich mich noch anstrengen irgendetwas zu erreichen, wenn es
1446     letztendlich sowieso für'n Arsch ist weil ich früher oder später
1447     krepiere? Ich kann ein Haus bauen, Kinder bekommen und was weiss ich
1448     nicht alles. Aber wozu? Das Haus wird irgendwann abgerissen, und die
1449     Kinder sterben auch mal. Was hat denn das Leben bitte für einen
1450     Sinn? Keinen! Also muss man seinem Leben einen Sinn geben, und das
1451     mache ich nicht indem ich einem überbezahlten Chef im Arsch rumkrieche
1452     oder mich von Faschisten verarschen lasse die mir erzählen wollen wir
1453     leben in einer Volksherrschaft. Nein, es gibt für mich jetzt noch eine
1454     Möglichkeit meinem Leben einen Sinn zu geben, und die werde ich nicht wie
1455     alle anderen zuvor verschwenden! Vielleicht hätte mein Leben komplett
1456     anders verlaufen können. Aber die Gesellschaft hat nunmal keinen Platz
1457     für Individualisten. Ich meine richtige Individualisten, Leute die
1458     slebst denken, und nicht solche 'Ich trage ein Nietenarmband und bin
1459     alternativ' Idioten!
1460    
1461     Ihr habt diese Schlacht begonnen, nicht ich. Meine Handlungen sind ein
1462     Resultat eurer Welt, eine Welt die mich nicht sein lassen will wie ich
1463     bin. Ihr habt euch über mich lustig gemacht, dasselbe habe ich nun mit
1464     euch getan, ich hatte nur einen ganz anderen Humor! Von 1994 bis 2003/2004
1465     war es auch mein Bestreben, Freunde zu haben, Spass zu haben. Als ich
1466     dann 1998 auf die GSS kam, fing es an mit den Statussymbolen, Kleidung,
1467     Freunde, Handy usw.. Dann bin ich wach geworden. Mir wurde bewusst das
1468     ich mein Leben lang der Dumme für andere war, und man sich über mich
1469     lustig machte. Und ich habe mir Rache geschworen! Diese Rache wird so
1470     brutal und rücksichtslos ausgeführt werden, dass euch das Blut in den
1471     Adern gefriert. Bevor ich gehe, werde ich euch einen Denkzettel verpassen,
1472     damit mich nie wieder ein Mensch vergisst! Ich will das ihr erkennt, das
1473     niemand das Recht hat unter einem faschistischen Deckmantel aus Gesetz und
1474     Religion in fremdes Leben einzugreifen!
1475    
1476     Ich will das sich mein Gesicht in eure Köpfe einbrennt! Ich will
1477     nicht länger davon laufen! Ich will meinen Teil zur Revolution der
1478     Ausgestossenen beitragen!
1479    
1480     Ich will R A C H E !
1481    
1482     Ich habe darüber nachgedacht, dass die meisten der Schüler die mich
1483     gedemütigt haben schon von der GSS abgegangen sind. Dazu habe ich zwei
1484     Dinge zu sagen:
1485    
1486     1. Ich ging nicht nur in eine klasse, nein, ich ging auf die ganze Schule.
1487    
1488     Die Menschen die sich auf der Schule befinden, sind in keinem Falle
1489     unschuldig! Niemand ist das! In deren Köpfen läuft das selbe Programm
1490     welches auch bei den früheren Jahrgängen lief! Ich bin der Virus der
1491     diese Programme zerstören will, es ist völlig irrelewand wo ich da
1492     anfange.
1493    
1494     2. Ein Grossteil meiner Rache wird sich auf das Lehrpersonal richten,
1495     denn das sind Menschen die gegen meinen Willen in mein Leben eingegriffen
1496     haben, und geholfen haben mich dahin zu stellen, wo ich jetzt stehe; Auf
1497     dem Schlachtfeld! Diese Lehrer befinden sich so gut wie alle noch auf
1498     dieser verdammten schule!
1499    
1500     Das Leben wie es heute täglich stattfindet ist wohl das armseeligste was
1501     die Welt zu bieten hat!
1502    
1503     S.A.A.R.T. - Schule, Ausbildung, Arbeit, Rente, Tod
1504    
1505     Das ist der Lebenslauf eines "normalen" Menschen heutzutage. Aber
1506     was ist eigentlich normal? Als normal wird das bezeichnet, was von der
1507     Gesellschaft erwartet wird. Somit werden heutzutage Punks, Penner,
1508     Mörder, Gothics, Schwule usw. als unnormal bezeichnet, weil sie den
1509     allgemeinen Vorstellungen der Gesellschaft nicht gerecht werden, können
1510     oder wollen. Ich scheiss auf euch! Jeder hat frei zu sein! Gebt jedem
1511     eine Waffe und die Probleme unter den Menschen lösen sich ohne jedliche
1512     Einmischung Dritter. Wenn jemand stirbt, dann ist er halt tot. Und? Der
1513     Tod gehört zum Leben! Kommen die Angehörigen mit dem Verlust nicht klar,
1514     können sie Selbstmord begehen, niemand hindert sie daran!
1515    
1516     S.A.A.R.T. beginnt mit dem 6. Lebensjahr hier in Deutschland, mit der
1517     Einschulung.
1518    
1519     Das Kind begibt sich auf seine perönliche Sozialisationsstrecke, und
1520     wird in den darauffolgenden Jahren gezwungen sich der Allgemeinheit, der
1521     Mehrheit anzupassen. Lehnt es dies ab, schalten sich Lehrer, Eltern,
1522     und nicht zuletzt die Polizei ein. Schulpflicht ist die Schönrede von
1523     Schulzwang, denn man wird ja gezwungen zur Schule zu gehen. Wer gezwungen
1524     wird, verliert ein Stück seiner Freiheit. Man wird gezwungen Steuern zu
1525     zahlen, man wird gezwungen Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungen einzuhalten, man
1526     wird gezwungen dies zu tun, man wird gewzungen das zu tun. Ergo: Keine
1527     Freiheit! Und sowas nennt man dann Volksherrschaft. Wenn das Volk hier
1528     herrschen würde, hiesse es Anarchie!
1529    
1530     WERDET ENDLICH WACH - GEHT AUF DIE STRASSE - DAS HAT IN DEUTSCHLAND
1531     SCHONMAL FUNKTIONIERT!
1532    
1533     Nach meiner Tat werden wieder irgendwelche fetten Politiker dumme
1534     Sprüche klopfen wie "Wir halten nun alle zusammen" oder "Wir
1535     müssen gemeinsam versuchen dies durchzustehen". Doch das machen
1536     sie nur um Aufmerksmakeit zu bekommen, um sich selbst als die Lösung
1537     zu präsentieren. Auf der GSS war es genauso... niemals lässt
1538     sich dieses fette Stück Scheisse von Rektorin blicken, aber wenn
1539     Theater-aufführungen sind, dann steht sie als erste mit einem breiten
1540     Grinsen auf der Bühne und präsentiert sich der Masse!
1541    
1542     Nazis, HipHoper, Türken, Staat, Staatsdiener, Gläubige... einfach alle
1543     sind zum kotzen und müssen vernichtet werden! (Den begriff "Türken"
1544     benutze ich für alle HipHopMuchels und Kleingangster; Sie kommen nach
1545     Deutschland weil die Bedingungen bei ihnen zu hause zu schlecht sind,
1546     weil Krieg ist... und dann kommen Sie nach Deutschland, dem Sozialamt der
1547     Welt, und lassne hier die Sau raus. Sie sollten alle vergast werden! Keine
1548     Juden, keine Neger, keine Holländer, aber Muchels! ICH BIN KEIN SCHEISS
1549     NAZI) Ich hasse euch und eure Art! Ihr müsst alle sterben!
1550    
1551     Seit meinem 6. Lebensjahr wurde ich von euch allen verarscht! Nun müsst
1552     ihr dafür bezahlen!
1553    
1554     Weil ich weiss das die Fascholizei meine Videos, Schulhefte, Tagebücher,
1555     einfach alles, nicht veröffentlichen will, habe ich das selbst in die
1556     Hand genommen.
1557    
1558     Als letztes möchte ich den Menschen die mir was bedeuten, oder die jemals
1559     gut zu mir waren, danken, und mich für all dies Entschuldigen!
1560    
1561     Ich bin weg...
1562     %
1563     01:14 <scortch> its an NP hard for computers
1564     01:14 <elmex> no, it's NP hard for anyone
1565     %
1566 root 1.432 19:18 <elmex> schmorp: eben anner kasse stand jemadn hinter mir und faselte mit seinen
1567     kumpels zum thema bill gates: "... er ist ja mein vorbild, nicht jetzt
1568     wegen dem geld, sondern wegen dem charakterlichen und so ... der hat ja
1569     die haelfte seines vermoegens gespendet.... und ne jacht hat der auch...
1570 root 1.431 abe was fuer eine... voll fettes schiff...'
1571     19:19 <schmorp> *rofl*
1572     19:19 <schmorp> aber nicht wegem dme geld
1573     19:19 <elmex> der studiert glaub ich informatik :)
1574     19:19 <elmex> das is die neue generation
1575     19:19 <elmex> 'generation gates'
1576     19:19 <schmorp> die frage schiene mcirosoft oder schiene java erübrigt sich
1577     %
1578     http://www.bissantz.de/pub/Luegen_mit_Statistiken.pdf
1579     %
1580     [http://use.perl.org/~luqui/journal/]
1581     [The reason I left Perl 6]
1582    
1583     The virtue of social art was extinguished when the solutions that I had
1584     worked for weeks on and I considered truly beautiful lost to syntax
1585     bloat and "DWIM tables". It bascially came down to the rest of the team
1586     considering Perl much more pragmatically than I did, which may end up
1587     better for the end result anyway—it is hard to tell.
1588     %
1589     http://www.ta-sa.org/files/sc/perl6_timeline_updated.png
1590     %
1591     00:20 <schmorp> Mikachu: xjdic lists ぶっかける as to dash (slosh) water (or other liquid)onapersonorinaperson'sface
1592     00:21 <Mikachu> yeah, that made me laugh a bit
1593     00:21 <Mikachu> "or other liquid, know what i mean, nudge nudge"
1594     %
1595     [very funny read]
1596     Hack-a-Bike
1597     USK@vZ8crASNqmw9APiGDtTxV0YvspklNnOTmQin0ZsPLdk,bnUaihNj6Ww8CFvBQo4UwH0pYiS0hOyeKIxvO0tZdJk,AQABAAE/hack-a-bike/1/index_de.html
1598     %
1599     Now that habeas corpus and other basic rights, including the right not to
1600     be tortured while interrogated, have now been deemed unnecessary, more
1601     Americans than ever have been thinking of getting out the door while they
1602     still can.
1603    
1604     http://www.boingboing.net/2006/10/23/getting_out_your_gui.html
1605     %
1606 root 1.432 23:52 <elmex> Zaehlen sie die wichtigsten Berufsfelder der IT-Branche auf:
1607     Java-code-affe, Bussiness-scheisse-laber-affe, Windows-admin,
1608 root 1.431 Windows-user, echter Admin und echter Programmierer.
1609     %
1610     [without words]
1611     http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/1030/104_print.html
1612     %
1613     [http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030217/cockburn]
1614     We're in the twilit world of the "thought crime." Have a photo of a kid in
1615     a bath on your hard drive, and the prosecutor says you were looking at it
1616     with lust in your heart, and that is tantamount to sexually molesting an
1617     actual kid in an actual bath.
1618     %
1619     Don't put stock in the Constitution, anymore. It IS just a piece of paper,
1620     today (actually, since Oct 17th). The Military Commissions Act of 2006
1621     makes the Constitution null and void. You (regardless of your citizenship)
1622     may be held with no charges, for no reason, for an indefinite time, with
1623     absolutely no judicial oversight. It is completely legal for the
1624     government to pick you up and for you to disappear with no one ever knowing
1625     what happened to you.
1626     %
1627 root 1.432 --
1628 root 1.431 Markus Schulz
1629    
1630     A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion
1631     Q: Why is top posting bad?
1632     %
1633     On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 02:05:19AM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
1634 root 1.432 > 1. It's not that I don't want to, but I _can't_ implement kprobes and not
1635     > due to lack of skills, but lack of resources. (There is a subtle but
1636 root 1.431 > important difference.)
1637    
1638     Um, given the amount of time you've spent trying to pursuade us why
1639     you can't implement kprobes for m68k, perhaps you would have
1640     implemented it already if you had buckled down and started coding
1641     instead of flaming about why everyone else should bend over backwards
1642     just because you don't have time for your arch? :-)
1643    
1644     - Ted
1645     %
1646     [http://richarddawkins.net/mainPage.php?bodyPage=article_body.php&id=183]
1647     "I want to see young people who are as committed to the cause of Jesus
1648     Christ as the young people are to the cause of Islam. I want to see them
1649     as radically laying down their lives for the gospel as they are over in
1650     Pakistan and Israel and Palestine and all those different places... Excuse
1651     me, but we have the truth!"
1652     %
1653     [Meijin Title Game #3, Takao Shinji vs. Cho U]
1654     (22) archimed [18k?]: actually, what are considered to be their respective strengths?
1655     (22) zephi [ 7k+]: takao's strength is kickin cho u's butt
1656     (22) zephi [ 7k+]: cho u's a big fighter
1657     %
1658     [nethack extinctionist faq]
1659     The first "extinctionist" ascension on r.g.r.n. (at least from what I can
1660     tell) seems to have been by Matthew Bourland in 2000, who although he
1661     didn't actually kill everything, certainly genocided all (at the time) 256
1662     monster types that were genocidable. Then, after that he extincted all
1663     other randomly generated monsters. On the other hand, having 120 kills
1664     in every category is perhaps more noteworthy (or foolhardy?) than simply
1665     genociding every monster.
1666    
1667     I'd recommend a dose of both. Kill them until they're dead and then
1668     genocide them for good measure!
1669     %%
1670     [nethack instadeath faq]
1671    
1672     * eating Death, Famine, Pestilence, Medusa, or green slime corpses
1673    
1674     Well let's face it, this is just plain stupid. So don't do it!
1675     %
1676     17:57 <zaphod> Murch: Stroemungslehre ist geil
1677     17:57 <Murch> zaphod: hm?
1678 root 1.432 17:57 <zaphod> Murch: "Diese Gleichungen sind, zumindest aus der Sicht eines
1679 root 1.431 Ingenieurs, als exakt anzusehen."
1680     17:58 <Murch> lol
1681     %
1682     22:51 -cfbot:#cf- [Wrathmagic] oh i love killing pirates yes i do i love stabbing them through and through
1683     %
1684     [Brazil and Bush’s War on Terror]
1685     http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/blumen3.html
1686     %
1687     http://trac.syr.edu/tracreports/terrorism/169/
1688     %
1689     http://web3.0log.org/2006/09/01/new-secure-browser-browzar-is-fake-and-full-of-adware/
1690    
1691     There was time when badware developers tried to install ad pages as homepage
1692     or searchpage in user’s IE by any possible means. Nowadays users install
1693     adware voluntarily and write news about it. True web2.0 style!
1694     %
1695     http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/05/universal_time_zone.html
1696    
1697     At the United Nations today President George W. Bush
1698     announced a proposal to unify all the world's time zones
1699     into a single Universal Time Zone (UTZ), formerly known as
1700     the Eastern Time Zone.
1701     [...]
1702     Britain immediately supported the US plan. "If it means
1703     sleeping in broad daylight then we'll stick with our
1704     allies," said Tony Blair, "Of course there's never broad
1705     daylight in the UK, so it's not much of an issue."
1706     %
1707     Wow, and this in security-relevant code... (taken from libc's ld.so)
1708    
1709     _dl_profile_output
1710     = &"/var/tmp\0/var/profile"[__libc_enable_secure ? 9 : 0];
1711     %
1712     [CRYPTO-GRAM]
1713     By January 1st, 2007, everyone crossing the border between the U.S. and Canada is supposed to have
1714     a passport. This is because of terrorism, of course. But now we learn that ferries and private
1715     watercraft will be exempt. One of two things is true. Either passports are required for
1716     security, in which case we should interfere with ferries. Or they're for show, in which case we
1717     can just do what's convenient. Or maybe we just know that terrorists never take ferries. I get
1718     that security is a trade-off, but this is kind of silly.
1719    
1720     http://tinyurl.com/zl5af
1721     %
1722     [famous last words]
1723     11:22 <kaizoku> what do you mean by *plonk*?
1724     %
1725     What make a provider a tier 2, versus a tier 1 provider...
1726    
1727     "We are a tier 1 provider" = "I am a salesperson."
1728    
1729     "They are a tier 2 provider." = "I am a salesperson and they are our competitor".
1730    
1731     --
1732     Jay Hennigan
1733     %
1734     http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/17_Mistakes_Microsoft_Made_in_the_Xbox_Security_System
1735     %
1736     [latimes story about a man returning to the us from iraq and being
1737     held for selling copyrighted images on t-shirts by the department
1738     of homeland security]
1739     http://tinyurl.com/ourlr
1740     %
1741     "Some other types of programs won't make the transition to Windows x64
1742 root 1.432 seamlessly, either. Microsoft ships WinXP x64 with two versions of
1743 root 1.431 Internet Explorer, a 32-bit version and a 64-bit version. The 32-bit
1744     version is the OS default because nearly all ActiveX controls and the like
1745     are 32-bit code, and where would we be if we couldn't execute the full
1746     range of spyware available to us?"
1747    
1748     [http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/64-bits/index.x?pg=1]
1749     %
1750     [http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/kglobalaccel__x11_8cpp-source.html]
1751     00279 if( pEvent->xkey.state & KKeyServer::modXNumLock() ) {
1752     00280 // TODO: what's the xor operator in c++?
1753     %
1754 root 1.432 <Mikachu> give a man a fix and he's running urxvt one day, teach a man
1755 root 1.431 to fix and he will run urxvt all his life
1756     %
1757     The NSA Phone Call Database: The European Perspective
1758     http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2006/05/the_nsa_phone_c.html
1759     %
1760     Oh, I agree completely. No game has ever let me down the way Oblivoin
1761     did. I"m still hoping mods and expansions will fix it but there's no way
1762     I'm pre-ordering the next one. I'm afraid it really will be a first person
1763     shooter.
1764    
1765     The really scary thing is that it's not just video games. Book sales were
1766     done last year because people just don't read as much anymore. I'm having
1767     to dumb down my newspaper editorials because people used to want analysis
1768     they could use to make their own opinions, now they seem to just want
1769     opinions they can quote without having to think for themselves. McDonalds
1770     puts pictures of the food on the cash register instead of numbers.
1771    
1772     Face it. The human race is devolving. In 500 years the best selling RPG
1773     in the universe will be a console game where you roleplay an ape named
1774     Fred, swing on vines and throw your own excrement. You'll have one stat,
1775     apeness. It wiill effect everything you do in a subtle, yet unexplained
1776     way.
1777    
1778     And Bethesda fan boys will be screaming "TES 504: Monkeypoo good. You go
1779     bak cave, no good rpger. Two stats bad. Made feces throw too hard. Shiney
1780     key graphic good. Make me happy."
1781    
1782     *shrugs* But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
1783     %
1784     > So Hitler was a pacifist because he let other people kill for him? Most
1785     > D&D computer games require you to kill people (not simply knock them
1786     > out). Also just because you don't kill doesn't make you a pacifist (see
1787     > above comment about Hitler).
1788    
1789     I invoke the European rule: In any given argument, the first side to
1790     mention Hitler loses.
1791     %
1792     [siggraph '99 course 12]
1793     Unfortunately, including <windows.h> has the unfortunate side effect of
1794     introducing literally thousands of macros and type declarations into
1795     your compilation environment. This undesirable "name space pollution"
1796     can sometimes affect source code portability by conflicting with your
1797     program's own macros and types. This can particularly be a problem for
1798     UNIX programmers that are not familiar with all the junk that comes with
1799     including <windows.h>.
1800     [...]
1801     Win32's requirement that you use wglGetProcAddress is a real drag,
1802     but if you do everything right, using OpenGL extensions works and
1803     gives you access to amazing new OpenGL features. And let's be honest;
1804     wglGet- ProcAddress is hardly the only annoying and awkward thing about
1805     programming with the Win32 API. Still, by using the C preprocessor and
1806     coding carefully, you actually can write OpenGL programs that use OpenGL
1807     extensions and compile from the same source code for both UNIX and Win32
1808     environments.
1809     %
1810     http://neil.franklin.ch/Usenet/alt.folklore.computers/19981207_Computers_are_so_STY00PID
1811     %
1812     [http://www.voynich.net/Kryptos]
1813     "It's easier to rig an electronic voting machine than a Las Vegas slot machine"
1814     %
1815     [CRYPTO-GRAM 2006-03-15]
1816     [...] There are all sorts of interests vying for control of your
1817     computer. There are media companies that want to control what you can
1818     do with the music and videos they sell you. There are companies that
1819     use software as a conduit to collect marketing information, deliver
1820     advertising or do whatever it is their real owners require. And there are
1821     software companies that are trying to make money by pleasing not only
1822     their customers, but other companies they ally themselves with. All these
1823     companies want to own your computer.
1824    
1825     Some examples:
1826    
1827     1. Entertainment software: In October 2005, it emerged that Sony had
1828     distributed a rootkit with several music CDs -- the same kind of
1829     software that crackers use to own people's computers. This rootkit
1830     secretly installed itself when the music CD was played on a computer.
1831     Its purpose was to prevent people from doing things with the music that
1832     Sony didn't approve of: It was a DRM system. If the exact same piece of
1833     software had been installed secretly by a hacker, this would have been
1834     an illegal act. But Sony believed that it had legitimate reasons for
1835     wanting to own its customers' machines.
1836 root 1.432
1837 root 1.431 2. Antivirus: You might have expected your antivirus software to detect
1838     Sony's rootkit. After all, that's why you bought it. But initially, the
1839     security programs sold by Symantec and others did not detect it,
1840     because Sony had asked them not to. You might have thought that the
1841     software you bought was working for you, but you would have been wrong.
1842    
1843     3. Internet services: Hotmail allows you to blacklist certain e-mail
1844     addresses, so that mail from them automatically goes into your spam
1845     trap. Have you ever tried blocking all that incessant marketing e-mail
1846     from Microsoft? You can't.
1847    
1848     4. Application software: Internet Explorer users might have expected
1849     the program to incorporate easy-to-use cookie handling and pop-up
1850     blockers. After all, other browsers do, and users have found them
1851     useful in defending against Internet annoyances. But Microsoft isn't
1852     just selling software to you; it sells Internet advertising as well. It
1853     isn't in the company's best interest to offer users features that would
1854     adversely affect its business partners.
1855    
1856     5. Spyware: Spyware is nothing but someone else trying to own your
1857     computer. These programs eavesdrop on your behavior and report back to
1858     their real owners -- sometimes without your knowledge or consent --
1859     about your behavior.
1860    
1861     6. Update: Automatic update features are another way software companies
1862     try to own your computer. While they can be useful for improving
1863     security, they also require you to trust your software vendor not to
1864     disable your computer for nonpayment, breach of contract or other
1865     presumed infractions.
1866    
1867     Adware, software-as-a-service and Google Desktop search are all
1868     examples of some other company trying to own your computer. And Trusted
1869     Computing will only make the problem worse.
1870    
1871     There is an inherent insecurity to technologies that try to own
1872     people's computers: They allow individuals other than the computers'
1873     legitimate owners to enforce policy on those machines. These systems
1874     invite attackers to assume the role of the third party and turn a
1875     user's device against him.
1876     [...]
1877     You can fight back against this trend by only using software that
1878     respects your boundaries. Boycott companies that don't honestly serve
1879     their customers, that don't disclose their alliances, that treat users
1880     like marketing assets. Use open-source software -- software created and
1881     owned by users, with no hidden agendas, no secret alliances and no
1882     back-room marketing deals.
1883     %
1884     [John Carmack on Java]
1885     Write-once-run-anywhere. Ha. Hahahahaha. We are only testing on four
1886     platforms right now, and not a single pair has the exact same quirks. All
1887     the commercial games are tweaked and compiled individually for each
1888     (often 100+) platform. Portability is not a justification for the awful
1889     performance.
1890     %
1891     [http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,415577,00.html]
1892    
1893     "Wenn ich höre, dass die Telekom mit Microsoft kooperiert, da wird mir
1894     ganz anders", sagte Herbert Tillmann, der Vorsitzende der Produktions-
1895     und Technikkommission von ARD und ZDF dem Blatt. Man bevorzuge offene
1896     Standards und wolle sich der Plattform von Microsoft nicht ausliefern.
1897     %
1898     http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2006/05/german_cannibal.html
1899     %
1900     "Ok, this is complete off topic but WHY do so many Americans think that
1901     once your cross the 49th parellel into Canada that they are going out into
1902     a technology- and civilization-free zone???"
1903     http://p203.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm31
1904     %
1905     http://funroll-loops.org/
1906     %
1907     [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL]
1908     When Direct3D was released in 1995, Microsoft, SGI, and Hewlett-Packard
1909     initiated the Fahrenheit project, which was a joint effort with the
1910     goal of unifying the OpenGL and Direct3D interfaces - and again, adding
1911     a scene-graph API. It initially showed some promise of bringing order
1912     to the world of interactive 3D computer graphics APIs, but on account
1913     of financial constraints at SGI and general lack of industry support
1914     it was abandoned. The engineers involved at SGI held a beach party in
1915     celebration - complete with bonfires on which they burned piles of
1916     Fahrenheit documentation.
1917     %
1918     [Whenever I try to use svn, it fails me. Sure I modified files, but whats
1919     the point of a RCS system that can't cope with that? Besides, I am 100%
1920     sure its much slower than CVS]
1921     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
1922     svn: Won't delete locally modified directory '.'
1923     svn: Left locally modified or unversioned files
1924 root 1.432 [Exit 1]
1925 root 1.431 cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
1926     svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
1927 root 1.432 [Exit 1]
1928 root 1.431 cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn diff
1929     svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
1930 root 1.432 [Exit 1]
1931 root 1.431 [Great, my local fixes are lost now, too. Whoever let this horror loose on
1932     humanity deserves to be shot or something like that]
1933     %
1934 root 1.430 [http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431.12]
1935    
1936     ... I'm evaluating a bunch of J2EE portlet-enabled JSR-compliant MVC
1937     role-based CMS web service application container frameworks. ...
1938 root 1.431 %
1939 root 1.429 Subject: RE: Question about Leap Second Features
1940    
1941     > Is there any implementation for this information on Microsoft operating
1942     > systems ?
1943    
1944     Any Microsoft operating system that is accurate down to the second can
1945     probably be hand-picked from Bill Gates' garage ... ;-)
1946    
1947     Jesper
1948     %
1949 root 1.428 [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ballmer]
1950    
1951     "As far as I can tell, the phrase 'I. Love. This. Company.
1952     YEEEAAAAAAAAARARRRRARAGH!' has FIVE words, not four."
1953    
1954 root 1.432 ~ Oscar Wilde on Steve Ballmer having four words for you.
1955 root 1.429 %
1956 root 1.427 http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/kafkaesque.html
1957     %
1958 root 1.426 [http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136541]
1959    
1960     You've doubled the work. People don't like that. People REALLY don't
1961     like that. The number of duplicate bugs filed against the chooser is
1962     evidence for this. Furthermore, click depth is a standard metric for
1963     measuring HCI usability, and this dialog has moved in the absolute wrong
1964     direction. People won't be satisfied until they get the entry box back
1965     into the dialog. You can grind your teeth and pull your hair all you want,
1966     but that's the truth.
1967     %
1968 root 1.424 [de.alt.ufo]
1969    
1970     Braun Ludwig <Wick84@gmx.de> wrote:
1971    
1972 root 1.432 > 1. Ufos sind für mich Flugobjekte des US Militärs mit einen neuartigen
1973     > Atrieb, der mit einen Motorgenerator von ca 100000 Volt und einer
1974     > Stromstärke von ca 2 mA, einer elektronischen Steuereinheit und einer
1975     > Antriebseinheit auf Kondensator Basis betrieben wird. Zur Erklärung des
1976 root 1.424
1977     Aaha! Naja, die Elektrogravitation ist wirklich seit langem bekannt. Damit aber
1978 root 1.425 einen Antrieb zu realisieren halte ich für weniger wahrscheinlich. So abstrakt
1979     ist diese Funktion nicht und es wären schon mehr als ein Mensch dahinter
1980 root 1.424 gekommen. Ich sicher auch.
1981    
1982     Allerdings schreibst Du hier von einem Generator. Es stellt sich die Frage
1983     was genau man mit 2 mA erzeugen will. Jeder Paralyzer schafft das mit
1984 root 1.425 der Hälfte der Spannung auch. Ich habe aber noch kein Opfer schweben
1985 root 1.424 gesehen. Im Gegenteil - die bewegen sich eigentlich immer ziemlich schnell
1986     in Richtung Boden.
1987    
1988     [...]
1989    
1990 root 1.432 > Dieser Ufo Flugzeug Typ wird in erster Linie als Spionage und
1991 root 1.425 > Aufklärungsflugobject eingesetzt.
1992 root 1.424
1993     Verstehe. Was ist in Afrika so interessant? Bekanntlich gibt oder gab es
1994 root 1.425 da bisher die überwiegenden Sichtungen. Was will z.B. der Ami von den
1995 root 1.424 Eingeborenen erfahren? Wie man richtig Reis oder Getreide kocht?
1996    
1997     [...]
1998    
1999     > 2. ausserirdische Ufo Flugobjekte.
2000 root 1.432 > Es gibt maximal 1 oder 2 oder drei ausserirdische Flugzeug
2001 root 1.425 > Beobachtungen, die tatsächlich wahr sind.
2002 root 1.424
2003     Nur drei? Das muss ich mir merken, damit ich das nicht vergesse. Welche
2004 root 1.425 mögen das Deiner Meinung nach wohl gewesen sein? Das ist ja noch
2005     schlimmer als Cenap, die von etwa 100.000 Fällen 1% erforscht haben,
2006     die wiederum schon im Vorfeld als 'normal' geklärt waren. Mit dieser
2007 root 1.424 Meinung solltest Du zu WW gehen und dich vorstellen. Der nimmmt Dich
2008     sofort.
2009     %
2010 root 1.423 [http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/Tech/connect4.htm]
2011     By the way, decryption can be performed easily in your editor with syntax
2012     like !!tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M (Sorry if you had the misfortune to buy your
2013     software from Microsoft.)
2014 root 1.424 %
2015 root 1.422 http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/
2016 root 1.424 %
2017 root 1.421 > BTW I have 2 English words for you, FUCK YOU
2018    
2019     Why, that's a rather intimate proposal. I never realised you were
2020     gay. While I would like to offer the hand of friendship, I am
2021     afraid that the thought of sex with a grown man doesn't really do
2022     much for me so I shall have to decline with a modicum of regret.
2023 root 1.424 %
2024 root 1.420 http://www.ta-sa.org/files/java_godkk.jpg
2025 root 1.419 http://www.chunder.com/carrots/javasux.html
2026 root 1.424 %
2027 root 1.418 Subject: Re: Docket No. 2005-22114
2028     From: Rodrigo Severo
2029     Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:04:33 -0200
2030     To: tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov
2031    
2032     On 1/23/06, Paul Eggert wrote:
2033    
2034     "David Braverman" <david@inner-drive.com> writes:
2035     It is a bit ironic that the US is less efficient than Brazil in fixing
2036     obviously-broken regulations like this.
2037    
2038     I'm sorry but I have to ask: where is the irony in this? I hope the answer
2039     isn't obvious to people from US and I'm not seeing it just because I'm
2040     brazilian ;)
2041     Rodrigo Severo
2042 root 1.424 %
2043 root 1.431 [Frankly, I'd just like to know what GNOME did wrong to deserve this :]
2044 root 1.417
2045     http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/faq.html#1.13
2046 root 1.424 %
2047 root 1.416 [Another entry in the series "make this a blog":]
2048    
2049     I wanted to see it for myself, and directed my browser to http://www.mpaa.org/.
2050    
2051     Got "Bad Request (Invalid Header Name)".
2052    
2053     Well.. some investigation showed that it didn't like the headers added by
2054     squid (in mostly default debian config).
2055    
2056     *sigh*
2057 root 1.424 %
2058 root 1.415 A LIBERAL DECALOGUE
2059     By Bertrand Russell
2060    
2061     Perhaps the essence of the Liberal outlook could be summed up in a new
2062     decalogue, not intended to replace the old one but only to supplement
2063     it. The Ten Commandments that, as a teacher, I should wish to promulgate,
2064     might be set forth as follows:
2065    
2066     1. Do not feel absolutely certain of anything.
2067    
2068     2. Do not think it worth while to proceed by concealing evidence, for the
2069     evidence is sure to come to light.
2070    
2071     3. Never try to discourage thinking for you are sure to succeed.
2072    
2073     4. When you meet with opposition, even if it should be from your husband
2074     or your children, endeavor to overcome it by argument and not by
2075     authority, for a victory dependent upon authority is unreal and illusory.
2076    
2077     5. Have no respect for the authority of others, for there are always
2078     contrary authorities to be found.
2079    
2080     6. Do not use power to suppress opinions you think pernicious, for if you
2081     do the opinions will suppress you.
2082    
2083     7. Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted
2084     was once eccentric.
2085    
2086     8. Find more pleasure in intelligent dissent that in passive agreement,
2087     for, if you value intelligence as you should, the former implies a deeper
2088     agreement than the latter.
2089    
2090     9. Be scrupulously truthful, even if the truth is inconvenient, for it is
2091     more inconvenient when you try to conceal it.
2092    
2093     10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool's
2094     paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness."
2095    
2096     "A Liberal Decalogue" is from The Autobiography of Bertrand Russell,
2097     Vol. 3: 1944-1969, pp. 71-2.
2098 root 1.424 %
2099 root 1.413 [http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/12/09/502014.aspx]
2100 root 1.412 John Hoy, President of the DVD Copy Control Association, made
2101     the following statement to the Library of Congress in its 2003
2102     Anticircumvention rulemaking proceedings:
2103    
2104     "Furthermore, if a consumer in the United States desires to view a DVD disc
2105     that has been region coded only for Europe, then that consumer is free to
2106     purchase a DVD player (either hardware or software) that is coded to play
2107     European DVDs. No legal restrictions apply-either through the CSS license
2108     or otherwise-to the importation and use of non-U.S. region players in the
2109     United States."
2110 root 1.413 ---
2111     It must really suck to live in a nation where competition is actually
2112     outlawed - you have to feel sorry for all those people oppressed by
2113     communists and socialists. Oh, wait.... ;)
2114 root 1.414 ---
2115     "You ain't seen nothin' yet! I heard that the new HD-DVDs or Blue-ray
2116     discs (whichever win eventually) will be street-encoded. You have to
2117     quote your street name while buying DVDs and they won't work in the next
2118     street. The hidden reason for this is that MPAA wants to charge upwards of
2119     $1000 per DVD for those living in million dollar mansions."
2120    
2121     This isn't far from the truth. Blu-ray disks for PlayStation3 will only
2122     play in ONE player on earth. MS will eventually make up something similar.
2123 root 1.424 %
2124 root 1.411 [gnome-clock and my radio-clock failed miserably, /bin/date and Linux worked:]
2125     Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC
2126 root 1.424 %
2127 root 1.410 [http://www.slate.com/id/2133993/]
2128    
2129     Vulnerabilities deemed "critical" have forced the company to release an
2130     almost unending stream of patches and fixes [...]
2131    
2132     Sure, it might be nice to connect your computer and your television
2133     set. But is it worth it to give hackers access to your television?
2134    
2135     Even if we don't use them, we suffer from them.
2136    
2137     [...] a former senior security analyst for the House of Representatives,
2138     believes that Microsoft is a threat to national security.
2139 root 1.424 %
2140 root 1.409 [Copyright History - US view]
2141     http://www.culturaleconomics.atfreeweb.com/cpu.htm
2142 root 1.424 %
2143 root 1.408 [I just re-read the unix haters hadnbook]
2144     X has had its share of $5,000 toilet seats -- like Sun's Open Look clock
2145     tool, which gobbles up 1.4 megabytes of real memory! If you sacrificed all
2146     the RAM from 22 Commodore 64s to clock tool, it still wouldn't have enough
2147     to tell you the time. Even the vanilla X11R4 "xclock" utility consumed
2148     656K to run. And X's memory usage is increasing.
2149 root 1.424 %
2150 root 1.406 [Got to remember this way of arguing, it's great if it works:]
2151    
2152     "Most people, I think, don’t even know what a rootkit is, so why should
2153     they care about it?"
2154     -- Thomas Hesse, Sony BMG’s Global Digital Business President.
2155 root 1.407
2156     [see also http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004145.php]
2157 root 1.424 %
2158 root 1.405 Let me repeat again: Formal axiomatic systems are a failure!
2159     -- Gregory Chaitin
2160 root 1.424 %
2161 root 1.432 13:49 <RayTracer> pixelsize=14 ist so groß wie 8 beim xchat wenn ich den
2162 root 1.404 gnome-settings-daemon nicht lade
2163     13:50 <schmorp> autsch, was hat das mit dem gnome-settings-daemon zu tun? ist ja hart!
2164     [...]
2165 root 1.432 13:51 <RayTracer> wenn ich den nicht lade sind alle gtk-programme mit großem Font,
2166     wenn ich ihn lade werden sie klein gemacht und wenn ich ihn töte ist
2167 root 1.404 wieder alles groß
2168 root 1.424 %
2169 root 1.403 [man perlsub]
2170     That prints "unphooey". (Yes, there are still unresolved issues
2171     having to do with visibility of @_. I’m ignoring that question
2172     for the moment. (But note that if we make @_ lexically scoped,
2173     those anonymous subroutines can act like closures... (Gee, is this
2174     sounding a little Lispish? (Never mind.))))
2175 root 1.424 %
2176 root 1.402 [glibc's bits/socket.h]
2177    
2178     if ((size_t) __cmsg->cmsg_len < sizeof (struct cmsghdr))
2179 root 1.432 /* The kernel header does this so there may be a reason. */
2180     return 0;
2181 root 1.424 %
2182 root 1.400 http://www.wicked-vision.com/zensur/zensur/zensur_bei_filmen.html
2183 root 1.401
2184     > Die Argumente liefen insbesondere darauf hinaus, dass es sich bei den
2185     > Filmen, auf die in Anspielungen verwiesen wird, um Filme handelt, die
2186     > entweder von der FSK gekennzeichnet wurden mit "nicht freigegeben
2187     > unter 18 Jahren", die von der Bundesprüfstelle indiziert wurden oder
2188     > die sogar durch entsprechende Beschlüsse bundesweit beschlagnahmt
2189     > wurden, also alles Filme, die Kindern und Jugendlichen aufgrund der
2190     > Gesetze zum Jugendschutz von vornherein nicht zugänglich sind. Kindern
2191     > und Jugendlichen wird daher die Persiflage auf diese Filme nicht
2192     > transparent.
2193    
2194     Das muß man sich mal auf der Zunge zergehen lassen: Da wird ein Film,
2195     der ab 18 Jahren freigegeben ist, indiziert, weil Kinder und Jugendliche
2196     die parodistischen Anspielungen nicht verstehen könnten. Mit solchen
2197     Begründungen beraubt sich die BPjS letztlich ihrer Glaubwürdigkeit.
2198 root 1.424 %
2199 root 1.399 Großmanns Gesetz: Komplexe Probleme haben einfache, leichtverständliche,
2200     aber falsche Lösungen.
2201 root 1.424 %
2202 root 1.398 A project done in Java will cost 5 times as much, take twice as long,
2203     and be harder to maintain than a project done in a scripting language such
2204     as PHP or Perl. [http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/09/20#a1762 Java
2205     is the SUV of programming tools] Philip Greenspun
2206 root 1.424 %
2207 root 1.397 On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Till Kamppeter wrote:
2208     >
2209     > Frederic told that the options from the PPD file are intentionally mot
2210     > listed in the printing dialog, the usability team of GNOME was against
2211     > listing these options. They clutter the dialog and can be more confusing
2212     > than useful to the user.
2213    
2214     I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE.
2215    
2216     This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of
2217     Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will
2218     use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long
2219     since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do.
2220    
2221     Please, just tell people to use KDE.
2222    
2223     Linus
2224 root 1.424 %
2225 root 1.396 Move 80, Node 81
2226     theodore [22k?]: i hear 8 d can read the future
2227     setzer [?]: what about 9d
2228     theodore [22k?]: they control it
2229 root 1.424 %
2230 root 1.395 [Fuqid 1.6 FAQ]
2231     Wenn ich HTL auf 300 setze dann lade ich viel schneller runter, warum?
2232    
2233 root 1.398 Weil du daran glaubst, das hat nur psychologische Gründe. HTL's grösser
2234 root 1.395 als das Nodelimit haben einfach keinen Einfluss. PUNKT!
2235     --
2236     Warum wurde Fuqid nicht in der geilen Sprache XX geschrieben?
2237    
2238     Du sprichst nur eine Sprache? Bist du Amerikaner?
2239 root 1.424 %
2240 root 1.393 [Are people responsible for the company they work at?]
2241     I was at a party in New York City earlier this year, and a conversation went like this:
2242    
2243     Person: What do you do?
2244     Me: I'm a computer programmer at Microsoft.
2245     Person: <viciously> I hate you.
2246    
2247     If Miss Manners didn't say so explicitly, I suspect she would nevertheless
2248     agree that snarling "I hate you" to somebody on first introduction is not
2249     exactly getting off on the right foot.
2250 root 1.394
2251     [And this is how that Microsoft programmer reacts to bugs in Microsoft software]
2252     http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/10/17/481810.aspx
2253 root 1.424 %
2254 root 1.392 "The music and film industries are demanding that the European parliament
2255     extends the scope of proposed anti-terror laws to help them prosecute
2256     illegal downloaders."
2257    
2258     Bill Thompson at the BBC has some pertinent commentary:
2259    
2260     "If they cannot come up with a business model which allows them to make
2261     profits without criminalising their customers, trampling over our civil
2262     liberties or installing malware on our computers then they do not deserve
2263     to stay in business, and new ways for artists to reach the public will
2264     have to emerge."
2265    
2266     http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4469886.stm
2267 root 1.424 %
2268 root 1.425 >Damit dürftest du der zweite Mensch sein, den ich kenne, der sich mit
2269 root 1.391 >einer so spartanischen Hardwareausstattung zufrieden gibt:) Ich selbst
2270    
2271     Mein Arbeitsplatz ist eine HP 715/80 - also 80 MHz. Da drauf laeuft der vi
2272     immer noch genauso schnell wie vor zehn Jahren :)
2273    
2274     Bye, Andy
2275 root 1.424 %
2276 root 1.398 [ka.uni.rz.stud, warum bestimmte zeichen in passwörtern verboten sind]
2277 root 1.425 >einem Passwort nicht zulässt, das kann ich nachvollziehen, aber wieso ein
2278 root 1.390 >Dollarzeichen, Leerzeichen, Klammeraffe, Doppelkreuz, Prozent, doppelte
2279 root 1.425 >Anführungszeichen, Paragraph und was es da noch so alles gibt? Und wieso nur
2280 root 1.390
2281     Dollarzeichen: DCE kann nicht damit umgehen.
2282     Leerzeichen: sind nur am Anfang und Ende eines PW verboten - es gibt
2283     System, die das wegstrippen :(
2284     Klammeraffe: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Kill-Zeichen (stammt
2285     halt noch aus der Zeit, als Fernschreiber als I/O-Geraete benutzt
2286     wurde, und ein Fernschreiber, der druckt, kann per Definition kein
2287     Backspace o.ae. haben - Tipp-Ex-Baender waren nicht eingebaut :)
2288     - und es gibt eben noch Systeme, die zum lokalen Login diese STTY-
2289     Settings benutzen. Seit wir die VT100-Terminals abgebaut haben,
2290     ist das fuer Studenten weniger relevant, unser BV behandelt aber
2291     alle Benutzer.
2292     Doppelkreuz: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Erase-Zeichen
2293     Prozent: Mift, das hab' ich mir nicht aufgeschrieben, geht aber auch in
2294     irgendeinem System nicht. Vielleicht sollte man es mal wieder
2295     probieren (bis es knallt)?
2296     Doppelte Anfuehrungszeichen: Wurden von Radius als Begrenzer benutzt. Ja,
2297     der Radius-Server funktionierte nur mit Klartext-Passwoertern :(
2298     Ja, funktionierte, Vergangenheitsform, er ist jetzt endlich tot :)
2299     Ja, damit kann ich die doppelten Anfuehrungszeichen freigeben :)
2300     Paragraph: ist kein ASCII-Zeichen. Das kann die lustigsten Probleme geben,
2301     insbesondere wenn verschiedene encodings benutzt werden - IMHO gibt
2302     es auch Implementierungen, die das 8. Bit wegschneiden...
2303 root 1.424 %
2304 root 1.389 [subversion is just plain broken. I just lost all my local modifications, right?]
2305    
2306     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2307     svn: Working copy '.' locked
2308     svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2309     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn cleanup
2310     svn: 'programs/mythlcd' is not a working copy directory
2311     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2312     svn: Working copy '.' locked
2313     svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2314     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn help cleanup
2315     cleanup: Recursively clean up the working copy, removing locks, resuming
2316     unfinished operations, etc.
2317     usage: cleanup [PATH...]
2318    
2319     Valid options:
2320     --diff3-cmd arg : use ARG as merge command
2321     --config-dir arg : read user configuration files from directory ARG
2322    
2323     [Thanks for the details. Not.]
2324 root 1.424 %
2325 root 1.388 But there's an observation I can't help doing: it seems to me that the
2326     ratio of increase in the complexity of (some aspects of) the language _is_
2327     _much_ _bigger_ than that in the functionality such complexity is supposed
2328     to provide.
2329     - perl6-language - michele dondi
2330 root 1.424 %
2331 root 1.386 [From: perl6-language]
2332    
2333     The fact that there's not alot of active p5p'ers on this list should
2334     alarm people more.
2335    
2336     -Nate
2337    
2338     [...]
2339    
2340     My take on that is that it is because Perl 6 is not a new version of
2341     Perl 5. I still think "Perl" is a misleading name, and mostly hurts the
2342     image of the language that is created here.
2343    
2344     Juerd
2345    
2346     [...]
2347    
2348     (Oh, and that perl6 will never be able to upgrade my scripts that use
2349     'format', but I'm aware of the plan to make that `obsolete' as in: the
2350     perl526 translator will dump core on those)
2351    
2352 root 1.432 --
2353 root 1.386 H.Merijn Brand
2354 root 1.387 %
2355 root 1.385 Die Firma Microsoft warnte asiatische Regierungen am Donnerstag,
2356 root 1.388 dass diese patentrechtlich verklagt werden könnten, wenn sie das
2357 root 1.385 Betriebssystem Linux anstelle von Microsoft's Windows-Software einsetzen.
2358     Nachrichtenagentur Reuters (18. November 2004)
2359 root 1.387 %
2360 root 1.384 [Come on, "kidtalk"???]
2361     http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx
2362 root 1.387 %
2363 root 1.383 [Priceless :)]
2364     http://www.scottmccloud.com/comics/icst/icst-6/icst-6-full.html
2365 root 1.387 %
2366 root 1.382 [http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/15/1312216&from=rss]
2367     >> I hate it whenever Word tries to encourage me not to use passive.
2368     [...]
2369     > Okay then, translate "The window has been broken" into active voice.
2370     "Windows is broken."
2371 root 1.387 %
2372 root 1.381 [Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon on the perl6-language list:]
2373     Removing features simply because their implementation is inconvenient
2374     is not The Perl Way. If it were, Perl 6 would be Java With Sigils.
2375 root 1.387 %
2376 root 1.380 [Incidentally, the USoA is one of the two countries on earth that insist
2377     on being able to kill their children legally]
2378     http://www.post-gazette.com/breaking/20040329pornp6.asp
2379 root 1.387 %
2380 root 1.379 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test]
2381     The Miller test is the United States Supreme Court's test for determining
2382     whether speech or expression can be labeled obscene [...]
2383 root 1.387 %
2384 root 1.377 [http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050923-5346.html]
2385     "They find the anti-pornography crowd disturbing because they believe
2386     that policing pornography violates fundamental rights. This has become
2387     the dominant view in our society: As long as what I do doesn't harm you
2388     personally, I have a right to do it. It's a silly view and a view rejected
2389     by law enforcement policies all over the country."
2390 root 1.378 --
2391     "What we really need is less government and more common sense. The Bush
2392     administration thinks it can win the war in iraq, the war on terror, the
2393     war on drugs, and the war on smut while establishing a lunar colony and
2394     rebuilding New Orleans, all without raising taxes. He really needs a
2395     reality check. I can't believe that with all of this crap going on, Tom
2396     DeLay has the balls to claim that the republican party has eliminated
2397     wasteful government spending."
2398 root 1.387 %
2399 root 1.376 [Attaching 72lbs to spam-reply-envelopes is legal. Do it!]
2400     http://www.vertical-visions.com/_temp/postagepaid/index2.html
2401 root 1.387 %
2402 root 1.375 [Charley Tart on Consensus Trance: <SLAP> <SLAP> Wake up!]
2403     http://www.cantrip.org/charles_tart.html
2404 root 1.387 %
2405 root 1.375 ["It's such a moving story, it must be true"]
2406     http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=246277
2407 root 1.387 %
2408 root 1.374 [Pencil Carving]
2409     http://www.infofreako.com/jad/enpitsu-e.html
2410 root 1.387 %
2411 root 1.374 [Copyright]
2412 root 1.373 http://www.bromsun.com/practice/copyrights/flowchart.html
2413 root 1.387 %
2414 root 1.372 [Die Wirtschaft befreit die Menschen von der Arbeit]
2415     http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/stz/page/detail.php/949236
2416 root 1.387 %
2417 root 1.432 23:10 <mmead> schmorp: A federal appeals court ruled today that the president can indefinitely detain a U.S. citizen
2418     captured on U.S. soil in the absence of criminal charges, holding that such authority is vital to protect the
2419 root 1.371 nation from terrorist attacks.
2420 root 1.432 23:10 <mmead> A congressional resolution after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks "provided the President all powers
2421     necessary and appropriate to protect American citizens from terrorist attacks by those who attacked the United
2422 root 1.371 States on Sept. 11,'' the decision said.
2423 root 1.432 23:10 <mmead> The decision by a three-judge panel was written by Judge J. Michael Luttig, who sources have said is under
2424     consideration by President Bush for nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court.
2425 root 1.387 %
2426 root 1.370 [Looks extreme]
2427     http://www.counterpunch.org/
2428 root 1.387 %
2429 root 1.369 [Some glimpse of what happened in New Orleans]
2430     "As we approached the bridge, armed Gretna sheriffs formed a line across the
2431     foot of the bridge. Before we were close enough to speak, they began firing
2432     their weapons over our heads."
2433     http://www.livejournal.com/users/malbec/1052572.html
2434 root 1.387 %
2435 root 1.368 [Global Average Temperature vs. Number of Pirates]
2436     http://www.sheise.de/files/PirateGraph.jpg
2437 root 1.387 %
2438 root 1.367 [http://www.fefe.de/nowindows/]
2439     Many people using Windows don't care about their freedom. They do care
2440     about quality software and for that reason try to replace all the user
2441     space software from Microsoft with better free alternatives. This is the
2442     sole reason for the existance of cygwin.
2443 root 1.387 %
2444 root 1.366 [http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/trusted_computing/20031001_tc.php]
2445 root 1.387 %
2446 root 1.366 The TCG has resisted defining "owner" for purposes of their spec, despite
2447     several requests for clarification.
2448    
2449     Think of it this way: most computer-related "stuff" now has a "licensed,
2450     not sold" tag attached. Ask yourself again, then, who has ultimate control
2451     unter TCG definitions.
2452 root 1.387 %
2453 root 1.366 But rememer they aren't doing anything wrong and they aren't trying to
2454     force anything on you. It is all opt-in and you always get to set the
2455     policy on your computer. It's just that nothing works any more unless you
2456     do opt-in and you do set your policy exactly they way they tell you to.
2457 root 1.387 %
2458 root 1.366 It's not coercion. It's for security. It helps the economy. It thwarts
2459     terrorists. TPM gives flags to orphans if that's what it needs to do to
2460     get people on board.
2461     %
2462 root 1.365 To have a secure computer, you must download the latest
2463     patches. Therefore, you must upgrade to SP4, and therefore, you must
2464     accept the EULA that requires you to agree with Microsoft's proprietary
2465     DRM.
2466    
2467     The end is near. Security patches will soon require your body to be
2468     injected with RFID. Surely, we are all doomed.
2469 root 1.387 %
2470 root 1.364 [http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/09/01/1419222.shtml?tid=172&tid=109]
2471     switch ($decade) {
2472     case "the 50's":
2473     s/the Boogyman/Communist agitators/g;
2474     break;
2475     case "the 60's":
2476     s/the Boogyman/acid-eating hippies/g;
2477     break;
2478     case "the 70's":
2479     s/the Boogyman/disco/g;
2480     break;
2481     case "the 80's":
2482     s/the Boogyman/mutual assured destruction (and Grenada!)/g;
2483     break;
2484     case "the 90's":
2485     s/the Boogyman/evil hackers and George Michael/g;
2486     break;
2487     case "the 00's":
2488     s/the Boogyman/terrorists/g;
2489     break;
2490     }
2491 root 1.387 %
2492 root 1.363 http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2005/08/curiosities-from-japans-porno-shops.html
2493    
2494     "How fucking creepy is that? As you can see from the flyer included
2495     in the capsule (note the kiddie crayon font), the other toys in the
2496     assortment include little girls spreading their legs, little girls sucking
2497     suggestively on popsicles, and little girls dry-humping their teddy bears"
2498    
2499     "Interestingly enough, none of the cans were very long - maybe six inches
2500     at the most. I was trying to avoid the whole Asian-men-have-small-penises
2501     thing, but they kind of handed it to me on a silver platter."
2502    
2503     ""Maybe I should just try it. Just see what it feels like..." I mean,
2504     why not, right? You know. Just for kicks, right? So you know what? I
2505     fucked it. Yeah. I fucked a plastic beer can. I fucked the shit out of
2506     that can. And you know what? It felt alright. It did the trick. That
2507     is, until it was all over. Until the moment after, when I was hit by a
2508     sobering freight train of humility, looking down at my dick stuck inside a
2509     latex vagina housed in a plastic beer can. Moments like that you start to
2510     question everything - "How the hell did it come to this? Who am I? What am
2511     I doing with my life?" I probably sat there for an hour, silently with my
2512     plastic lover, pondering my existence."
2513 root 1.387 %
2514 root 1.362 "The scholars of Islam, such as Malik, Ash-Shafi`i, Ahmad and Ishaaq said
2515     that (the person guilty of this crime) should be stoned, whether he is
2516     married or unmarried."
2517    
2518     http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547102
2519     http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/02/Article01-0.shtml
2520     http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/07/Article02.shtml
2521     http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545556
2522     http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543324
2523 root 1.387 %
2524 root 1.362 http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503546996
2525    
2526     [I like this comparison between of and watching television:]
2527     Your brother is not at all different from those who have been conditioned
2528     to fornicate, or commit theft or murder, or who have become addicted to
2529     watching pornography or even television for that matter. All of these
2530     are destructive habits that one learns through continuous exposure or
2531     conditioning.
2532    
2533     [And this is religion at its best:]
2534     Let him continuously read, reflect and meditate on the verses of the
2535     Qur'an that deal with the punishment meted to the nation who practiced
2536     this abomination; let him also read the verses depicting hell fire.
2537 root 1.387 %
2538 root 1.361 [Racism]
2539     http://www.flickr.com/photos/firewall/38725768/
2540 root 1.387 %
2541 root 1.360 [A link, just a link]
2542     http://www.oilcrisis.com/
2543 root 1.387 %
2544 root 1.359 As you may have noticed, the HOWTO is getting stale, you can't subscribe to
2545     the mailinglist and a lot of messages sent to it aren't getting through.
2546    
2547     I apologise for this.
2548    
2549     If all goes well I'll get my driver's license this Tuesday, which will allow
2550     me to visit the server, which I can't easily reach right now.
2551 root 1.387 %
2552 root 1.358 PSYC @> el says: von java bekommt man krebs
2553     induktiv says: java is ein riesiger marketing misthaufen voll mit code von uebereifrigen fh-programmierern
2554     el says: ich kenn da wen
2555     el says: bei dem wars so
2556     [...]
2557     PSYC @> el says: und.. naja, der hat also ganz viel java programmiert
2558     el says: und bekam augenkrebs
2559     el says: gehirntumor auch
2560     el says: ich weiss nicht, was vorher da war
2561 root 1.387 %
2562 root 1.357 wget http://el.l.tobij.de/ratz.jpg && xsetbg ratz.jpg
2563 root 1.387 %
2564 root 1.356 [in a reply to a school work assignment about proving why env vars make
2565     no sense in the kernel]
2566     From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
2567    
2568     [...]
2569    
2570     Mathematical proofs are accomplished within a framework of mathematical
2571     models.
2572    
2573     In the postmodern time period and we gave up belief that the mathematical
2574     models are an accurate representation of reality. We only expect that
2575     they are sufficiently accurate for the purposes at hand.
2576 root 1.387 %
2577 root 1.354 [such nice quotes from http://theinquirer.net/?article=24638]
2578     There will be EF devices, EF branded content and probably EF branded
2579     contraceptives to use while watching EF branded porn.
2580     --
2581     Any DRM on a machine is simply a sign of failure.
2582 root 1.355 --
2583     This crushing DRM that is being foisted upon you is the surest sign that
2584     you don't want this product, and you will be paying too much for it. Don't
2585     like that? Bought legislators are hard at work making sure you will go to
2586     jail if you try to exercise your rights on the issue.
2587 root 1.387 %
2588 root 1.353 An absolutely fascinating interview with Robert Pape, a University of
2589     Chicago professor who has studied every suicide terrorist attack since
2590     1980. "The central fact is that overwhelmingly suicide-terrorist
2591     attacks are not driven by religion as much as they are by a clear
2592     strategic objective: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military
2593     forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland."
2594     <http://www.amconmag.com/2005_07_18/article.html>
2595     [From: CRYPTO-GRAM 2005-08-15]
2596 root 1.387 %
2597 root 1.352 [If you are a US citizen, you might want to fight for the right to vote,
2598     which you currently do not posess]
2599     http://reclaimdemocracy.org/political_reform/right_to_vote.html
2600 root 1.387 %
2601 root 1.388 Kind: "Daad! Die alten Griechen mußten 44 Arten der Selbstverteidigung lernen, ohne Waffen!"
2602     Vater: "Dafür haben wir eine zweistufige elektrische Heckenschere."
2603 root 1.351 [Nach: Time Bandits]
2604 root 1.387 %
2605 root 1.350 http://www.cpmission.com/main/painpolitics/mdjackson.html
2606 root 1.387 %
2607 root 1.349 Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off
2608     a horse.." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse.."
2609 root 1.387 %
2610 root 1.432 Tcl is LISP on drugs. Using strings instead of S-expressions for closures
2611     is Evil with one of those gigantic E's you can find at the beginning of
2612     paragraphs.
2613 root 1.387 %
2614 root 1.347 [the average IQ seems to be declining]
2615     http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000953.html
2616     http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/
2617 root 1.387 %
2618 root 1.346 [http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/07/31/0626257.shtml?tid=153&tid=98&tid=95&tid=103&tid=219]
2619     > If you know anything, most catholics register as democrats
2620    
2621     Most catholics aren't American.
2622 root 1.387 %
2623 root 1.345 [Some things possibly cannot exist...]
2624    
2625     [http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/depleted-uranium.html]
2626     In NEWS1920, we demonstrated how America's widespread usage of Depleted
2627     Uranium munitions is fulfilling the prophetic End of the Age prophecy
2628     against Babylon (Iraq). Now, we examine how our D.U. is quite possibly
2629     fulfilling another major prophecy: Revelation 6:3-4
2630    
2631     [http://cuttingedge.org/detail.cfm?ID=939]
2632     How Mormon Temples Are Built To Be Demon Magnets
2633 root 1.387 %
2634 root 1.344 [http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/23/egypt.explosions/index.html]
2635     Asked whether he thought the blasts might be related to Islam, he
2636     replied, "What Islam? This terrorism has nothing to do with any religion,
2637     because all religions do not allow aggression and do not allow killing
2638     civilians in innocence. Those don't belong to Muslims. They are a gang of
2639     criminals."
2640 root 1.387 %
2641 root 1.343 The Black Hole in the Galactic Center
2642     [http://www.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de/staff/hfalcke/bh/sld1.html]
2643 root 1.387 %
2644 root 1.342 To me anything above 30 fps is good and 45-50 is amazing... 75 is more
2645     than I've seen lol. Then again I come from a mac
2646 root 1.387 %
2647 root 1.341 [There are things the US congress can do that were far beyond my imagination]
2648     http://reason.com/rauch/99_08_07.shtml
2649 root 1.387 %
2650 root 1.340 The MSI MS-9130 (K8T Master2-FAR) is an excellent board. The only problem
2651     I had was with my video card shorting out and frying both the board and
2652     card (They went up in flames).
2653 root 1.387 %
2654 root 1.432 05:46 <mmead> AP and UPI reported that the French government announced yesterday that
2655     it has raised its terror alert level from "run" to "hide." The only two
2656     higher levels in France are "surrender" and "collaborate." The action
2657     was precipitated by the recent fire which destroyed one of France's
2658 root 1.338 white flag factories, disabling their military.
2659 root 1.432 05:47 <mmead> it's obviously been recirculated recently:
2660 root 1.339 http://www.edthibodeau.com/nonplussed/2004/10/french_terror_a.html
2661 root 1.387 %
2662 root 1.337 [The following quote from a NASA press release shows impressively how much
2663     we know. And more importantly, how to build up scientific knowledge part
2664     by part. "Knowledge" always has a margin-of-error inherently attached to it.]
2665    
2666     "The cloud indicated the comet is covered in the powdery stuff."
2667    
2668     [http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/text/di_pr_20050708.txt]
2669 root 1.387 %
2670 root 1.336 [http://www.skippy.net/blog/2005/06/09/security-through-stupidity/]
2671     Silly questions abound, all to cover people's butts. When I moved to
2672     the US in 1992 (from Canada), one of the questions on my green card
2673     application was "Do you, or any member of your immediate family, plan to
2674     violently overthrow the government of the United States or assasinate any
2675     elected official?" Not only did they have checkboxes for "yes" and "no",
2676     but they had a blank space labelled, "If you checked 'yes', please provide
2677     a detailed explanation in the space below." I never figured out what kind
2678     of explanation would make them give you a green card anyway.
2679     --
2680     Hasbro should ask the same. Teddy Ruxpin chips were found on a number
2681     of landmines during the first gulf war... First, we just thought these
2682     people REALLY hate Teddy Ruxpin, maybe we're not so different after all...
2683     but on further investigation, Ruxpin had easily-programmable EEPROMs, so
2684     the Ruxpin chip was actually being repurposed as a controller for the
2685     explosives. They were jackin' overseas deliveries to get the Ruxpins.
2686 root 1.387 %
2687 root 1.335 http://graphics.stanford.edu/~danielrh/vote/vote.html
2688     The Obfuscated V contest
2689 root 1.387 %
2690 root 1.335 Airplane security is getting surreal: "...FAA regulation that requires
2691     soldiers -- all of whom were armed with an arsenal of assault rifles,
2692     shotguns and pistols -- to surrender pocket knives, nose hair scissors and
2693     cigarette lighters."
2694     http://tinyurl.com/7z8my
2695 root 1.387 %
2696 root 1.334 <http://babygimp.sourceforge.net/>
2697     Does it run under Windows ?
2698     - Who cares?
2699 root 1.387 %
2700 root 1.333 [Can hot water freeze faster than cold water?]
2701 root 1.332 http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html
2702 root 1.387 %
2703 root 1.331 http://www.physik3.gwdg.de/~rgeisle/nld/sbsl-howto.html
2704     Single Bubble Sonoluminescence HOWTO
2705     [...]
2706     Don't bother me with "my bottle exploded, what was wrong?"-stuff; While the bottle is heated it mustn't be closed!
2707     [...]
2708     Darken your room completely. Adapt your eyes, which may take 15 minutes up
2709     to half an hour. Look at the flask or at least where you think your flask
2710     is (remember: the room is completely darkened).
2711 root 1.387 %
2712 root 1.329 [de.alt.ufo]
2713 root 1.432 > Ja, stimmt - ich hatte mich früher viel mit Leuten beschäftigt, die
2714     > wahrscheinlich entführt wurden, oder bei denen es den Anschein hatte. Im
2715     > Moment beschäftige ich mich mit der Konstruktion eines kleinen UFO-
2716 root 1.388 > Detektors, der die UFO- Ereignisse auch zählt.-
2717 root 1.330 > www.ufo-finder.de
2718 root 1.432 > Aber Feld-Forscher bin ich deshalb noch nicht. Das geht gesundheitlich nicht
2719 root 1.330 > mehr!
2720     > richy.
2721    
2722     Und es gibt wirklich Deppen, die sich von dir abzocken lassen??
2723 root 1.387 %
2724 root 1.330 [de.alt.ufo]
2725 root 1.329 > Wie kann ich online etwas belegen, das sich in der Vergangenheit
2726     > zugetragen hat?
2727    
2728     Das solltest Du Dich selbst mal fragen. Wenn Du es nicht belegen kannst,
2729     warum behauptest Du es dann?
2730 root 1.388 [später]
2731     > Ach, wenn es interessant wird, umfängt Dich Faulheit?
2732 root 1.329
2733     Bei dir ist das angemessen, du hast deinen Ruf weg.
2734     Du plapperst immer nur von Belegen, verlangst letzten Endes
2735     naturwissenschaftliche/physikalische Beweise (genaugenommen:
2736     ein Alien-craft zum Vorfuehren), darunter akzeptierst du nichts,
2737     aber das stellt sich erst nach ellenlangen threads heraus.
2738    
2739     Aber das ist bekannt, und eigentlich belanglos.
2740    
2741     Wer sich auf Debatten mit dir einlaesst und Argumente erwartet
2742     von jemand, der die Wissenschaft zur Ersatzreligion verquast,
2743     ist eigentlich selbst schuld.
2744 root 1.387 %
2745 root 1.388 [de.alt.ufo, über einen www.rtl.de-news-Artikel]
2746 root 1.328 Wie die Skepsos so schoen sagen: der Verfasser von dem Quark war so offen,
2747     dem ist das Gehirn rausgefallen.
2748 root 1.387 %
2749 root 1.327 [res_nsend.c]
2750     /* give the hook another try */
2751     if (++loops < 42) /*doug adams*/
2752     break;
2753 root 1.387 %
2754 root 1.326 [sr_port/mdq.h]
2755 root 1.432 /* Insert a doubly-linked list of elements from "n->q.fl" to "n->q.bl"
2756 root 1.326 in between "o" and "o->q.fl" */
2757     #define dqadd(o,n,q) ((o)->q.fl->q.bl=(n)->q.bl,(n)->q.bl->q.fl=(o)->q.fl,(o)->q.fl=(n)->q.fl,(n)->q.fl->q.bl=(o))
2758 root 1.387 %
2759 root 1.325 Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
2760 root 1.387 %
2761 root 1.324 * Andreas Waechter <mail@andreas-waechter.de> [06-25-05 00:58]:
2762 root 1.432 > No, Thunderbird should not "reply" to the list with the
2763 root 1.324 > current settings of the list.
2764 root 1.432 >
2765     > There is no "Reply-To" header, thus a "Reply" has to go to
2766     > the address in the "From" header - which is the address of
2767 root 1.324 > the original sender, not the list.
2768 root 1.432 >
2769     > The List address is in the "To" field. Thus only a "Reply
2770     > All" will go to the list as CC (and to the original sender
2771 root 1.324 > as TO).
2772 root 1.432 >
2773 root 1.324 > Don't blame my mail client for the set-up of the list.
2774    
2775     Your *mail* client is *not* being blamed. It is *your*
2776     responsibility. No one disputes your choice of mail client, but it
2777     *is* your responsibility to see that *your* posts are properly
2778     addressed to the list, not the list's software or the people you are
2779     being discourteous to.
2780    
2781     The *fault* is *all* yours. It is/was your choice.
2782     --
2783     Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535
2784 root 1.387 %
2785 root 1.323 [http://www.heise.de/ct/00/20/104/]
2786 root 1.388 "Sie können mit falschen Tatsachen Leute überzeugen, das ist nun mal so."
2787 root 1.387 %
2788 root 1.322 An appeals court in Minnesota has ruled that the presence of encryption
2789     software [PGP] on a computer may be viewed as evidence of criminal intent.
2790     http://www.granick.com/archive/2005_05_01_theshout_archive.html#1117581
2791     http://news.com.com/Minnesota+court+takes+dim+view+of+encryption/2100-1030_3-5718978.html
2792     http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/archive/ctappub/0505/opa040381-0503.htm
2793 root 1.387 %
2794 root 1.322 [http://www.komotv.com/stories/37150.htm]
2795     "They said 'no' and they said it's a national security issue. And I said
2796     what about my constitutional rights? And they said 'not at this point ...
2797     you don't have any'."
2798 root 1.323
2799     [I also am very fond of this quote:]
2800     "My concern is that if that's the way they're treating American citizens I
2801     would hate to think how they're treating other people. It's crazy."
2802     [Don't they have _any_ ethics?? What about equality? Ah well, I forgot...]
2803 root 1.387 %
2804 root 1.321 [http://wiki.ffii.org/CampIcecream050601En]
2805     Yes its true! If you go down to Place du Luxembourg from now until
2806     3pm, you can collect your free icecream and support the Computer
2807     Implemented Inventions Common Position!
2808 root 1.387 %
2809 root 1.319 [http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation/algorithm/upconversion/index.htm]
2810     The change from Blitz to standard arrays had little effect on the
2811     execution time so I stuck with the standard type. The standard arrays
2812     should be more acceptable to developers who want to modify the code.
2813     Insisting that the developer use a certain array container for no good
2814     reason will not win many fans.
2815    
2816     [http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation.html has other nice
2817     documents in the algorithm section]
2818 root 1.387 %
2819 root 1.318 ["Blue in the Face"]
2820     Ich kriege in New York keine Angst, nein... aber in Schweden...da isses
2821     irgendwie so leer und da sind alle betrunken... und alles funktioniert...
2822     und, naja, wnen du an einer roten Ampel den motor nicht abstellst, reden
2823     die leute mit dir.... die zeigen da im fernsehen ohrenoperationen...
2824    
2825     Solche dinge machen mir Angst... nicht New York.
2826 root 1.387 %
2827 root 1.317 And before I forget it, readers fascinated by the idea of Central
2828     Europeans using A6 as a toilet paper size might also be interested to hear
2829     that the U.S. have for the same application field a standard square format
2830 root 1.388 of 4.5×4.5 in = 114×114 mm, which is for instance documented in New Jersey
2831 root 1.317 Specification No. 7572-01 (May 1997), section 2.3.
2832     [http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html]
2833 root 1.387 %
2834 root 1.316 [Better know what they actually do...]
2835 root 1.388 [Technische Richtlinie / Telekommunikationsüberwachung]
2836 root 1.316 http://www.regtp.de/imperia/md/content/tech_reg_t/ueberwachu/TR_TKUE_Ausgabe_4.1_29-11-2004.pdf
2837 root 1.315 [RFC3924 Cisco Architecture for Lawful Intercept in IP Networks]
2838     ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3924.txt
2839 root 1.387 %
2840 root 1.314 [rfc4096]
2841     The FTC called a summit of leading thinkers, and the regulation was
2842     amended to read "but don't use languages that go from right to left
2843     or up and down instead of plain old left to right." Needless to say,
2844     the reaction from the Freedonian League for the Defense of Linguistic
2845     Diversity killed that proposed regulation really quickly.
2846 root 1.387 %
2847 root 1.313 [just a really nice md5sum]
2848     99421268df476006401f11f96b655248
2849 root 1.387 %
2850 root 1.312 [a comment in some g729 sample implementation]
2851 root 1.432 * For G.729(,A,B) royalty payments, see http://www.sipro.com
2852 root 1.312 * WARNING: please make sure you are sitting down before looking
2853     * at their price list.
2854 root 1.387 %
2855 root 1.311 [http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=139347&cid=11665921]
2856     You'd think I was overgeneralizing, but I'm not. Absolutely every single
2857     time I see HN in use, I quickly end up learning that the programmer who
2858     wrote the code was an idiot. On at least two separate occasions, I've
2859     had to correct C code with HN that did not allocate space for the null
2860     terminator on any strings anywhere in the code. That's pretty much the
2861     level of programming talent you can expect when you see HN in use.
2862 root 1.387 %
2863 root 1.309 21:22 <mmead> tiger's SMB support is fucking broken
2864     21:26 <oesi> mmead: when you grow up, you will substitute "'s SMB support" by "" :)
2865 root 1.387 %
2866 root 1.308 03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> ich dachte immer alle beinhaltet mehr als 1
2867     03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> aba naja
2868     03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <oesi> nein, viele beinhaltet mehr als 1
2869     03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <bani_> stimmt auch wieder
2870 root 1.387 %
2871 root 1.319 [ein so gut geschriebenes dokument erwartet man eigentlich nicht mal vom BSI]
2872 root 1.307 http://www.bsi.bund.de/literat/studien/antispam/antispam.pdf
2873 root 1.387 %
2874 root 1.306 [some SPAM]
2875     Freie Geschlechtabbildungen und -filme. Und Phasennetznocken
2876 root 1.387 %
2877 root 1.305 cowsay -f head-in oink | cowthink -n -f sodomized
2878 root 1.387 %
2879 root 1.304 [star wars episode guide]
2880     1 =Epichode 1: The Phantom Grimace
2881     2 =Epichode 2: Attack of the Groans
2882     3 =Epichode 3: Revenge of the Shit
2883     4 = Episode 4: A New Hope
2884     5 = Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back(By far the best Star Wars film. One of the finest movies ever made.)
2885     6 = Episode 6: Return of the Jedi(would have been a thousand times cooler if the ewoks had been Wookies).
2886     [http://www.beggingtodiffer.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=pp;action=display;num=1113843411]
2887 root 1.387 %
2888 root 1.300 [God knows his enemies]
2889     http://sheise.de/files/GODvsBUSH.gif
2890 root 1.302 [Uh-oh, "se germans are next"]
2891 root 1.303 http://sheise.de/files/cnn_iraq.jpg [a fake, but nevertheless]
2892 root 1.387 %
2893 root 1.299 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054743/
2894 root 1.301 [Why is it that every good Hollywood movie is at least 30+ years old?]
2895 root 1.387 %
2896 root 1.298 [http://www.bildblog.de/]
2897 root 1.388 Die "Bild"-Zeitung schreibt Blödsinn, und alle schreiben's ab. Die
2898     rührende Geschichte von den "Unfallforschern", die angeblich "ermittelt"
2899     hätten, was doch nur eine schlichte Umrechnung von Stundenkilometern in
2900 root 1.298 Meter pro Sekunde ist, zieht Kreise.
2901    
2902     Nachrichtenagentur ddp, 3. Mai, 03:16 Uhr:
2903    
2904     Laut "Bild" ermittelten Unfallforscher, dass ein Auto bei einer
2905     Geschwindigkeit von 50 Kilometern pro Stunde etwa 14 Meter pro Sekunde
2906 root 1.388 ungebremst weiterfährt, während der Fahrer nach einer fallengelassenen
2907 root 1.298 Zigarette sucht.
2908    
2909     Nachrichtenagentur AFP, 3. Mai, 04:25 Uhr:
2910    
2911     [usw.]
2912    
2913     Bei "Stern Online" ist aus den "Unfallforschern" schon eine ganze "Studie"
2914 root 1.388 geworden, die plötzlich zu Ergebnissen kommt, die nur scheinbar mit den
2915 root 1.298 bekannten "Ermittlungen" identisch sind:
2916    
2917     Nach Auffassung des SPD-Verkehrsexperten Peter Danckert kann eine
2918     brennende Zigarette den Fahrer jedoch ebenso wie ein klingelndes
2919     Telefon ablenken. Er verwies auf eine Studie, nach der ein 50
2920     Stundenkilometer schnelles Auto mindestens 14 Meter weiterrolle, wenn
2921     der Fahrer nach einer Zigarette sucht.
2922 root 1.387 %
2923 root 1.388 [schlimmer als de.alt.ufo, schlimmer als jede Verarschung sein könnte...]
2924 root 1.297 http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2005/01/22/sonne__boese/sonne__boese.html
2925     http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2004/12/28/seebeben/zerreisst__unsere__erde.html
2926 root 1.387 %
2927 root 1.296 [http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=147629&cid=12370229]
2928     Which fanboy are you?
2929    
2930     1. Windows
2931    
2932     You wear wraparound sunglasses, even indoors. You wish your mother
2933     would let you ride a motorbike. You tell your friends you're pulling
2934     in $50,000 a year and $2,000 a month "playing the stock market" but
2935     in reality you're only bringing in half that and your dividends from
2936     MSFT havn't been good in years. Your non computing friends all turn
2937     to you for help; you only charge $30 an hour. Your collegues talk
2938     about you behind your back. Your workplace nickname is likely to be
2939     "The Asshole". Unlike the Linux fanboys, you actually try to pick up
2940     dates in bars but women laugh at you.
2941    
2942     2. Apple
2943    
2944     You think you're so cool you hurt. You have mirrors on every wall
2945     in your "loft apartment", which is really a grimy little apartment
2946     next to a guy who plays Guns 'n Roses at 3am. All of your furniture
2947     is from Ikea. You sometimes think that changing your name to "Steve"
2948     would be "pretty cool". When you go to bars you only drink Miller
2949     Lite. No body ever asks you for help with their computers because
2950     they know you don't know anything but OS X, even if you do tell them
2951     you "run Unix" now. Your friends openly laugh at you.
2952    
2953     3. Linspire
2954    
2955     You regularly give $10 bills to homeless guys because you have
2956     too much money. Computers baffle you, but you enjoy looking at
2957     pictures of naked women. You don't know what Linux is, but you
2958     continually bugged the IT guy at work about your computer so he
2959     installed Linspire on your machine.
2960    
2961     4. Umbongo
2962    
2963     You shop at GAP. You probably used to use a Mac. When you saw the
2964     multiracial image used as a desktop picture and heard that this
2965     operating system came from the same country as Nelson Mandela, you
2966     knew it was for you. You meet with your friends in fair-trade coffee
2967     houses and talk about the eventual overthrow of evil corporations
2968     such as Microsoft and Starbucks. Like the Linspire user, you have
2969     very little real knowlege when it comes to computers but you would
2970     never use your computer to look at pictures of women degrading
2971     themselves.
2972    
2973     5. Gentoy
2974    
2975     You've been "into computers" for ohh, one or two years now and fancy
2976     yourself as "a bit of a hacker". Wouldn't know C from C++, or even
2977     Perl for that matter. Older Gentoy users may be building their homes
2978     from matchsticks. You've explained to all your friends that your
2979     matchstick house will have an "optimised floorplan". They've tried
2980     to tell you that your house violates every known building code and
2981     law in your area, but you've ignored them so far because you can't
2982     read those complicated regulatory documents.
2983    
2984     6. Linux From Scratch
2985    
2986     Much like the Gentoy user but you'd also be into sadomasochistic
2987     sex if you could get it. You're not just building a house from
2988     matchsticks, you're planing to grow the trees to make the
2989     matchsticks. You've cleared some land but don't know what to do next
2990     because you havn't read the books you've got, so you've posted to
2991     alt.arborists.newbie asking for help. It's been three days so far
2992     and no one has replied. You remain hopeful.
2993 root 1.387 %
2994 root 1.295 [/usr/bin/cowsay]
2995     if (($^O eq "MSWin32") or ($^O eq "Windows_NT")) { ## Many perls, eek!
2996 root 1.387 %
2997 root 1.294 [A few days after the 6.0.9 release announcement]
2998    
2999     In the spirit of release early, release often.... Err no, actually more
3000     in the spirit of, let's not try to lose data during file resolution...
3001    
3002     Coda 6.0.10 is out
3003 root 1.387 %
3004 root 1.293 <opine@orifice2.com> wrote:
3005    
3006     > > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:55:28 -0800, CrabRangoon wrote
3007 root 1.432 >
3008 root 1.388 > > Meine Großmutter hat einen kleinen Hinterhof und sie benutzt selten die
3009 root 1.293 > > Dusche. Bei vielen Gelegenheiten habe ich mehr als 4
3010 root 1.388 > > Lebensmittelgeschäftspeicher-Versorgungsmaterialien Sellerie an einem
3011     > > einzelnen Tag verbraucht. Würde es irgendein Benzin unter meiner Couch
3012     > > geben, wenn ich meine Hose bügelte?
3013 root 1.432 >
3014     > What does your granny's tiny ass have to do with this group? Other than the
3015 root 1.293 > smell attracting flies of course...
3016 root 1.432 >
3017 root 1.293 I figured a little non-native tongued nonsense would help keep this
3018     request near the top of the group. thanks for playing along.
3019 root 1.388 cheers and Haben Sie eine glückliche Karotte
3020 root 1.387 %
3021 root 1.432 00:24 <elmex> ich bin ja nur ein dummer niedersachse, der kaum was in der schule hatte
3022 root 1.387 %
3023 root 1.291 War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. -Ambrose Bierce
3024 root 1.387 %
3025 root 1.290 98% of the time I am right. Why worry about the other 3%.
3026 root 1.387 %
3027 root 1.289 [Bertram van Munster, Jerry Bruckheimers partner, interviewed in the BBC
3028     show "Correspondent"]
3029 root 1.288
3030     [...] I do reality television, and I've done this for many many many
3031     years, long before even anybody knew what reality was.
3032    
3033     [so know we know who creates reality now]
3034     %
3035 root 1.287 [from wordnet]
3036     cock sucking, blowjob
3037     => fellatio, fellation
3038     => oral sex, head
3039     => perversion, sexual perversion
3040     => sexual activity, sexual practice, sex, sex activity
3041     => bodily process, body process, bodily function, activity
3042     => organic process, biological process
3043     => process
3044     => phenomenon
3045 root 1.387 %
3046 root 1.286 10:41 <oesi> [0]--(10:40:39)-(root@km)-(~/xxml)-> file tmon.out
3047     10:41 <oesi> tmon.out: ASCII Java program text
3048 root 1.387 %
3049 root 1.285 [SSK@J3GtFnEi8b~ko6mGvvXdrQoZ3D4PAgM,hhWspr43hLbvnrlkwxtDLg/ABC_NoJail/2//]
3050     [slightly edited]
3051     Largest prison population in the world is in the United States of America
3052     (in 2000: 2,071,686 persons, 22% of world prison population), it has more
3053     than double the prison population of Russia or China. What that means is
3054     that in USA 1 out of 143 residents are incarcerated.
3055    
3056     About 88% of USA prison population is male, but female population is
3057     sharply on the rise, and might soon reach that of males, due mostly to new
3058     laws on terrorism and drugs.
3059    
3060     Out of all the black males between 20 and 39, 12% are in custody (anybody
3061     told them about emancipation proclamation?).
3062 root 1.387 %
3063 root 1.284 "Begehe nur nicht den Fehler, Meinung durch Sachverstand zu substituieren."
3064     (PLemken, <bu6o7e$e6v0p$2@ID-31.news.uni-berlin.de>)
3065 root 1.387 %
3066 root 1.283 Mail::Box - 700MB of RSS to open a 30MB mail folder, one half of the
3067 root 1.282 advertised features doesn't work, while the other half is just buggy.
3068 root 1.387 %
3069 root 1.281 A ship is safe in harbor, but that is not what ships are built for.
3070 root 1.432 I learned that some cops lie. This was a brutal and profoundly disturbing
3071     realization: Those in control are not necessarily trustworthy.
3072 root 1.281 - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
3073 root 1.387 %
3074 root 1.279 "parrot - from the people who brought you ithreads"
3075     - oesi
3076 root 1.387 %
3077 root 1.278 [US, Metric]
3078     http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/usmetric.html
3079 root 1.387 %
3080 root 1.432 [http://use.perl.org/~scrottie/journal]
3081 root 1.277 [I agree with that very much, most of his blog is really interesting]
3082 root 1.275 Sunday February 20, 2005 07:18 AM
3083     Minions Wanted [ 0 Comments | #23269 ]
3084    
3085     It's been about 10 years since I've had minions. They've all grown up,
3086     started painfully profitable companies, and now hob-knob whose-who of
3087     important and influential figures of their field. I'm growing old and
3088     increasinly mal-adapted to normal life. It's no longer becoming for me
3089     to leave my lair nor speak on the phone. I've reflected on making this
3090     post, and I've reflected at great length. Minions aren't what they used
3091     to be. Minions now days are soft and weak willed. In the old days, it was
3092     that minions would realize they can wield power if they're willing to
3093     spend a time subserviant to someone capable of teaching. Now days, kids
3094     have this notion that money only comes from the parents, power comes from
3095     your social (gag) circles, and glory comes from the things you own. They
3096     seek answers to Perl questions only for immediate gradification, not to
3097     truly master an insidious tactic and become a potent force. Kids now
3098     days, not nearly robust enough to be considered minion material. They,for
3099     their entire life, questioninglessly slide into being slaves of much
3100     more powerful overlords. They accept as payment for their servatude a
3101     few measily tens of thousands of dollars, and then only paid in payments
3102     yearly, calling that close enough to world domination, and inexchange
3103     for that paultry fee, deliver one after another innocent to the hands of
3104     Bill Gates, telling the clients they betray that Microsoft Windows is a
3105     servicable operating system and a supportable platform. While it is truly
3106     becoming to serve on the side of Microsoft, it is also well known the
3107     ranks are thin at the top but wide at the bottom, and few ever move past
3108     petty explotation of businesses and moronic home users.
3109    
3110     This is not the stock I seek. These so short-sightedly driven by greed,
3111     rather than lusting for true power, amount to little more than orcs - a
3112     fodder of little use except as "consumers" in this modern age. It is far
3113     more becoming to hope to some day aspire to be an overlord of some small
3114     repute yourself and initially forego payment.
3115    
3116     Minions in my service will be expected to endure maindane business-related
3117     tasks, such as answering the phone, but will always be allowed the
3118     basic dignity of being able to tell clients to "fuck off" when
3119     appropriate. Retaining dignity does not relieve the necessities of
3120     subordination, however. My minions may seek clarification but will never
3121     question me. For the term of their indenture, they will accept my teaching
3122     as truth itself. They will not seek short-cuts where I say there are none,
3123     and if I later reveal short-cuts, they will know it was because they were
3124     not yet ready before. While my young troglodytes will doubtless enterain
3125     perversion and drug abuse in their free time, they will go for the want of
3126     the very necessities of life should urgant cause arise.
3127    
3128     In exchange, they will be tutored on the basic elements of evil and Perl
3129     programming and will share in the spoils of an insideous plot I've hatched
3130     some time ago to dupe large numbers of people out of money by playing on
3131     their greed and fear. Of course, in the interest of avoiding indictment
3132     myself, the details of the plot can never be revealed, but a clever
3133     student will quickly ascertain the nature of the ploy. After thier period
3134     of endenture, minions will have developed an eye for exploitation and
3135     trickery, but most importantly will have developed a deeper understanding
3136     of how things work - both in Perl and in the real world. They will see
3137     everything about them as quite potentially theirs - no program must go
3138     unwritten, and persuent to Free Trade Agreements, they will be as a
3139     sovereign nation.
3140    
3141     While the offer is valid, this is a draft for a post on
3142     jobs.perl.org. Feedback is welcome - unless you're stupid, then stay the
3143     hell off my blog. Time and time again I forget both the power of TV to
3144     sap intelligence and the very prevelence of the thing. So let this be a
3145     test: if you watch more than half an hour a day of any programming besides
3146     CSPAN, don't post here.
3147    
3148     -scott
3149 root 1.387 %
3150 root 1.274 But Mike Loughlin, who studied the boiling of lobsters when he was a
3151     University of Maine graduate student, said lobsters simply lack the brain
3152     capacity to feel pain.
3153    
3154     "It's a semantic thing: No brain, no pain," said Loughlin, who now works
3155     as a biologist at the Maine Atlantic Salmon Commission.
3156 root 1.387 %
3157 root 1.273 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp contextual F1 help & Crimson Editor in Windows
3158     From: Sven Neumann
3159    
3160     Hi,
3161    
3162 root 1.388 Rubén de Diego Martínez writes:
3163 root 1.432 > I also think that it's a bug. How may I report-it?
3164 root 1.273
3165     Go to http://support.microsoft.com/support/feedback/ and tell them
3166     that
3167    
3168     ShellExecute (HWND_DESKTOP, "open", uri, NULL, NULL, SW_SHOWNORMAL);
3169    
3170     does not do what you would expect it to do.
3171 root 1.387 %
3172 root 1.271 http://www.syslog.com/~jwilson/pics-i-like/kurios119.jpg
3173 root 1.272 the original comment says:
3174     This is probably part of an elaborate IQ test.
3175     Waiting at the gate means you fail.
3176 root 1.387 %
3177 root 1.271 {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} ich mir eine kolaflasche reingeschioebn
3178     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und dann ist meine klitoris erissen
3179     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und ich musste ins krankenhaus
3180     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} oh sorry, falsches fenster
3181     {Flat eric:Net-Knuddels} aja
3182     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} hi :)
3183 root 1.387 %
3184 root 1.275 [Java, like Delphi, requires manual destruction. Obvious, but still
3185 root 1.270 interesting read]
3186     http://www.octopull.demon.co.uk/java/ImmortalityAtaPrice.html
3187 root 1.387 %
3188 root 1.269 [Obscure Algorithms, just for my reference]
3189     http://aggregate.org/MAGIC/
3190     http://www.hackersdelight.org/HDcode.htm
3191 root 1.387 %
3192 root 1.268 In Los Angeles, the "HOLLYWOOD" sign is protected by a fence and a locked
3193     gate. Because several different agencies need access to the sign for
3194     various purposes, the chain locking the gate is formed by several locks
3195     linked together. Each of the agencies has the key to its own lock, and not
3196     the key to any of the others. Of course, anyone who can open one of the
3197     locks can open the gate.
3198    
3199     This is a nice example of a multiple-user access-control system. It's
3200     simple, and it works. You can also make it as complicated as you want,
3201     with different locks in parallel and in series.
3202 root 1.387 %
3203 root 1.267 http://www.crypto.com/papers/safelocks.pdf
3204     Safecracking for the computer scientist
3205 root 1.387 %
3206 root 1.265 Fact: Something that you observe to be true.
3207    
3208     Fact #1: when you drop a hammer, it falls to the ground
3209    
3210     Fact #2: a genetic sequence can change sufficiently to form a new
3211     species. Speciation has been observed more than once in the laboratory
3212     and in the wild, so this is a fact. Since we call this process
3213     'evolution', that means evolution is a fact. Keep reading for more
3214     explanation of this.
3215    
3216     Theory: An explanation of an observation
3217    
3218     Theory #1: The theory of gravity is understood as a curvature in space,
3219     which explains why the hammer falls.
3220    
3221     Theory #2: The Theory of Evolution through Natural Selection explains
3222     how a population's genome can change over time.
3223    
3224 root 1.266 Law: Not really related to any of the other definitions. It's just a
3225     mathematical relationship between two values.
3226 root 1.265
3227     Law #1: If you double the distance from a source of light, the
3228     brightness falls off proportionally to the square of the distance.
3229    
3230     Law #2: (expressed as a formula) F=ma. Force equals mass times
3231     acceleration.
3232    
3233     Please note that Evolution is a fact, and the theory is called the Theory
3234     of Evolution through Natural Selection. There are other theories of
3235     evolution, which have been disproved. A famous one is the theory of
3236     evolution through acquired characteristics, also known as Lamarkian
3237     evolution. It posited that species evolve by acquiring and retaining
3238     useful characteristics through use. Therefore, a giraffe would have
3239     longer necks if the previous generations stretched their necks to reach
3240     high leaves. This was the main theory that Darwin and others showed to be
3241     false.
3242    
3243     [by Profane MuthaFucka (574406)]
3244 root 1.387 %
3245 root 1.388 [Aus: Psychologie heute, 10/2003, über einen Artikel von Rentfrow/Gosling,
3246 root 1.264 Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 6/2003]
3247    
3248     Fans von reflexiven und komplexen Musikstilen wie Klassik, Blues, Jazz und
3249     Folk sind offen, tolerant und machen gerne neue Erfahrungen. Sie halten
3250 root 1.388 sich für intelligent - und sind es auch. Außerdem können sie gut mit
3251     Worten umgehen, schätzen das schöne. haben eine starke Vorstellungskraft
3252     und sind politisch liberal eingestellt. Sie sind häufig etwas unsportlich
3253 root 1.264 und wollen andere nicht dominieren.
3254    
3255 root 1.388 Anhänger von intensiven und rebellischen Musikrichtungen wie Heavy Metal,
3256     Rock und alternativer Musik sind offen für Experimente. Sie halten sich
3257     außerdem für intelligent, eloquent und sportlich. Obwohl die Musik, die
3258     sie bevorzugen, vorwiegend negatives ausdrückt, scheint dies nicht auf
3259     sie abzufärben: Sie sind weder neurotischer noch unverträglicher als die
3260     Fans anderer Musikrichtungen. Darüber hinaus sind sie wissensdurstig,
3261     risikobereit und körperlich aktiv.
3262 root 1.264
3263     Beschwingt und konventionell. So bezeichnen Rentfrow und Gosling
3264 root 1.388 Popsongs und Schmusehits, Countrymusik, Filmmusik und religiöse Musik
3265     (Spirituals, Gospels, Kirchenlieder). Wer diese Musik gerne hört, ist ein
3266     umgänglicher Zeitgenosse: Er geht gern aus sich heraus, ist verträglich,
3267     fröhlich, zuverlässig, hilfsbereit und gewissenhaft. Seine Einstellungen
3268 root 1.264 sind eher konservativ, Beredesamkeit und Offenheit sind nicht seine
3269 root 1.388 Stärken. Dafür hält er sich aber für attraktiv und vor allem für
3270 root 1.264 sportlich.
3271    
3272 root 1.388 Wer sich für energetische und rhythmische Musik begeistern kann (Rap,
3273     Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, Electronica) trägt sein Herz auf der Zunge. Er
3274     ist umgänglich, quirlig, liberal eingestellt, extravertiert und ein
3275     wenig eitel: Er hält sich für attraktiv und sportlich. Konservatives
3276     Gedankengut und Dominanz über andere liegen ihm hingegen fern.
3277 root 1.264
3278 root 1.388 Die besten verbalen Fähigkeiten haben die Angehörigen der ersten beiden
3279 root 1.264 Gruppen. Am wenigsten beredt ist die dritte Gruppe. An analytischem
3280 root 1.388 Verstand mangelt es vor allen den Musikhörern der vierten Gruppe.
3281     während die erste Gruppe, gefolgt von der zweiten, am meisten davon
3282 root 1.264 vorzuweisen hat.
3283    
3284     "Die intelligenteste Gruppe bevorzugt die komplexeste Musik", sagen die
3285     Forscher.
3286 root 1.387 %
3287 root 1.263 [Very well-written article on the legal foundazion of licensing, and
3288     the extreme difference in what a free software license does vs. a
3289     EULA-style license]
3290 root 1.262 http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/cores/2005/01/001453
3291 root 1.387 %
3292 root 1.261 The Pirate Bay is a BitTorrent tracking site in Sweden with 150,000 users
3293     a day. In the fall, it posted a torrent for Shrek 2. Dreamworks sent a
3294     cease-and-desist letter demanding the site remove it. One of the site's
3295     pseudonymous owners, Anakata, replied: "As you may or may not be aware,
3296     Sweden is not a state in the United States of America. Sweden is a country
3297     in northern Europe [and] US law does not apply here. ... It is the opinion
3298     of us and our lawyers that you are fucking morons." Shrek 2 stayed up.
3299 root 1.387 %
3300 root 1.260 Java is, in many ways, C++--. (Michael Feldman)
3301 root 1.387 %
3302 root 1.259 [Happy New Year]
3303     23:42 -!- zaphod [jkneer@fatboy.laendle] has quit [Quit: Hochhaus]
3304     Day changed to 01 Jan 2005
3305     00:24 <schmorp> re
3306 root 1.387 %
3307 root 1.258 [http://www.calsky.com/lexikon/de/txt/f/fe/fehlschluss.php]
3308 root 1.388 Im besten Fall kann die Verknüpfung zweier Tatsachen Verdachtsmomente
3309     liefern, die mit wissenschaftlichen Methoden abgeklärt werden
3310 root 1.258 sollen. Was eine wissenschaftliche Methode ist, ist Gegenstand anderer
3311     wissenschaftlicher Untersuchungen.
3312 root 1.387 %
3313 root 1.257 [funny page(s), although I think it's sad that people trying to "debunk"
3314     bad science theories are prone to the same logical fallacies as the
3315     proponents of such theories.]
3316     http://www.xs4all.nl/~mke/Planet-X.htm
3317     "On the Internet, there's a picture circulating that's supposedly `secret
3318     evidence' from Russia, proving Planet X is an inhabited world. The makers
3319     took the original photo (top left), enlarged it, and upgraded it with
3320     `solarize' and `find edges'. And look... Suddenly, you see all kinds of
3321     spaceships orbiting the planet! (top right) I followed exactly the same
3322     procedure, using a photo of one Robert Bridson, math student at Stanford
3323     University (below, left). After enlarging and solarizing the photograph,
3324     it became clear that mr. Bridsons left ear actually is inhabited by
3325     intelligent beings, since there clearly is a spaceship taking off from it
3326     (below, right)."
3327 root 1.387 %
3328 root 1.256 [wonderful info...]
3329     http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/
3330     [useful info...]
3331     http://www.snopes.com/
3332 root 1.387 %
3333 root 1.253 Computer analyst to programmer:
3334     "You start coding. I'll go find out what they want."
3335 root 1.387 %
3336 root 1.252 [Fun!]
3337     http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
3338 root 1.387 %
3339 root 1.388 [Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 11/2004, über Informationstransport im All]
3340 root 1.251 "Wenn unsere Vettern im Kosmos wirklich intelligent sind, werden ihre
3341     Computer sicher nicht mit Microsoft-Betriebssystemen ausgestattet sein."
3342 root 1.387 %
3343 root 1.250 [in our continued series, "solaris source code", today, /bin/true]
3344     ddev5:~$ cat /bin/true
3345     #!/usr/bin/sh
3346     # Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
3347     # All Rights Reserved
3348    
3349     # THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
3350     # The copyright notice above does not evidence any
3351     # actual or intended publication of such source code.
3352    
3353     #ident "@(#)true.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.4 */
3354 root 1.432 ddev5:~$
3355 root 1.387 %
3356 root 1.249 22:07 <elmex> schmorp: naja, es beweist das das konzept von java nicht funktioniert
3357     22:07 <schmorp> elmex: welches konzept?
3358     22:07 <elmex> das "hack dir die beine ab, und lauf nen marathon"-konzept ;)
3359 root 1.387 %
3360 root 1.248 [Gtk2/Makefile.PL]
3361     # win32 does not allow unresolved symbols in libraries, but
3362     # Gtk2 uses on symbols in the dll created for Glib.
3363     # so, we have to break all this nice abstraction and encapsulation
3364     # and find the actual Glib.dll and Glib.lib installed by perl when
3365     # the Glib module was built, and add it to the list of lib files.
3366     #
3367     # say it with me: "i hate win32."
3368 root 1.387 %
3369 root 1.388 Immerhin meint die Filmförderungsanstalt, im Jahr 2002 seien 59
3370 root 1.247 Millionen CD-Rohlinge von 5,9 Millionen Nutzern mit Filmen bespielt
3371     worden, im Durchschnitt also zwo:lf Rohlinge pro Anwender.
3372     -- <http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/see-08.04.03-000/>
3373 root 1.387 %
3374 root 1.246 http://otierney.net/images/perl6.gif
3375 root 1.387 %
3376 root 1.245 [http://www.kinderschaender.de/begriff.htm]
3377 root 1.388 Das einzige, was die Seite wirklich gezeigt hat, ist, daß es kaum Menschen
3378     gibt, die weiter denken als ein Schwein scheißt.
3379 root 1.387 %
3380 root 1.244 http://www.paulgraham.com/fix.html
3381     [I'd say ALL the essays on http://www.paulgraham.com/articles.html
3382     are readable, and in most cases I wholeheartedly agree with them.]
3383 root 1.387 %
3384 root 1.243 http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/security_report_windows_vs_linux/
3385 root 1.387 %
3386 root 1.243 [From: CRYPTO-GRAM]
3387     Bill Gates points out that all those IE security holes have not been
3388     Microsoft's fault. (The first step towards recovery is recognizing
3389     that you have a problem.)
3390     <http://slashdot.org/articles/04/10/15/015239.shtml?tid=109&tid=1>
3391 root 1.387 %
3392 root 1.242 [top output on redhat9, with one real-time priority process]
3393     PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME CPU COMMAND
3394 root 1.247 25788 root 18446744073709551565 0 10076 9.8M 2816 S 0.9 1.9 0:01
3395 root 1.242 26064 root 21 0 1508 1508 1184 S 0.3 0.2 0:00 0 curl
3396    
3397     [I am continually amazed at how redhat is able to break utilities that worked
3398     and work on other distributions without flaws again and again and again...]
3399 root 1.387 %
3400 root 1.241 That depends. There is C++ and there is C++. There are many different
3401     sorts of C++, I'll talk about 2 of them:
3402    
3403     Category 1 code is 'C with classes and on-the-fly variable
3404     declarations'. It uses macros, bad encapsulation, no const-correctness,
3405     etc. Category 1 code tends to either use object oriented programing
3406     exclusively, or use it combined with procedural programming. Other
3407     programming paradigms are extremely rare. It often uses non-portable hacks
3408     because Standard-knowledge is scarce among category 1 coders. Category 1
3409     code is seen mostly in Flipcode and Gamedev.net articles and forums. Also
3410     it is seen in almost every API ever developed by Microsoft. A slightly
3411     less bad version of category 1 code is seen in libraries that call
3412     themselves "high-quality C++ libraries" but that don't even use a single
3413     namespace and rely heavily on macros and other unsafe preprocessing
3414     techniques where this is totally unnecessary. Most of those libraries are
3415     that way because they were started before the 1998 C++ Standard's stuff
3416     got implemented in main-stream compilers.
3417    
3418     Category 2 code is what I'd like to see as the meaning of the term
3419     "C++ code". It is Standard-compliant, uses multiple programming
3420     paradigms and is pushing the language to the max (and beyond ;) to
3421     create easy to use, efficient, highly-reusable and easy to extend
3422     programs/libraries/modules/etc. Unfortunately, category 2 code is
3423     hard to write when you have to work with incompetent compilers like
3424     MSVC6/7. Category 2 code is mostly seen in:
3425 root 1.387 %
3426 root 1.240 [On "Main Loop with Fixed Time Steps", a Windows programmer commented:]
3427 root 1.239
3428     Just to point out, With a tick being a maximum of FFFFFFFFh, you *only*
3429     have about 49 days of tick time since the system has started! Though I
3430     doubt any game or even system runs for that long.
3431 root 1.387 %
3432 root 1.238 [http://www.paulgraham.com/popular.html]
3433     "The best writing is rewriting," wrote E. B. White. Every good writer
3434     knows this, and it's true for software too.
3435 root 1.387 %
3436 root 1.237 > think it needs the Ultimate Refactor..."rm -rf programs/Xserver/GL"
3437    
3438     ... and I was told "rm -rf" means "read mail, really fast!"
3439     ;)
3440 root 1.387 %
3441 root 1.235 [this is not a blogggggg]
3442     One fine day, I removed the "video=matrox:off" from my kernel commandline,
3443     having removed the matrox card from my machine months ago. Promptly, the
3444     proprietary nvidia driver greeted me with:
3445    
3446     NVIDIA: Failed to map framebuffer memors
3447    
3448 root 1.236 Adding the video option back made it work again. No, I do not have any
3449     framebuffer devices compiled into the kernel, either...
3450 root 1.387 %
3451 root 1.234 [taken out of a public mail by a journalist... I have never seen anybody
3452     using so many abbreviations...]
3453    
3454     Hi Volker -
3455    
3456     alles klar ..!? Bin mit dem Buch i. Stretch .. Lektorat / Korrektorat
3457 root 1.388 Architekturbuch ... wie üblich, kennst das ja wahrsch. auch ... alles zu
3458     spät ...
3459 root 1.234
3460     Dann gehts direktemang in die Ferien (2 Wochen Gomera ab komm. SA ...)
3461    
3462     Ja, und dann find ich doch Volker ganz Massiv im Briefkasten a. SA ..
3463    
3464 root 1.388 schönes Foto von dir ... 1 Seite .. 2 seiten Interview, m. Fortsetzung im
3465     nächsten Heft ..!!! (äusserst rar b. nem Interview ...)
3466 root 1.234
3467 root 1.388 herzliche Grüsse
3468 root 1.234
3469     tom
3470 root 1.247
3471 root 1.234 PS: Mein Wissenschtf.Kollege und Filmemacher ist der Meinung, dass das Thema
3472 root 1.388 'Copyrights, Commons, Freedom' etc ...spannend wäre, aber schlecht fürs TV
3473 root 1.234 ... Du kannst prakt. nichts mehr themat. Anspruchsvolles machen ... auch b.
3474 root 1.388 Arte war irgend nen Problem (fällt mir auf d. Schnelle nicht mehr ein ...
3475 root 1.234 schon ein paar Wochen her ...)
3476 root 1.387 %
3477 root 1.233 From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
3478     Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4
3479     Message-ID: <20040826183838.GE2793@holomorphy.com>
3480    
3481     On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 02:02:29AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
3482 root 1.247 > How old are you? I thought you were the guy at Linux Tag with fashion
3483     > oriented hair who gave a talk on his XFS work? Did I confuse you with
3484 root 1.233 > someone else?
3485    
3486     Index: mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS
3487     ===================================================================
3488     --- mm1-2.6.9-rc1.orig/CREDITS 2004-08-26 10:37:57.424567967 -0700
3489     +++ mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS 2004-08-26 11:35:24.977260109 -0700
3490     @@ -2677,6 +2677,14 @@
3491     S: 79098 Freiburg
3492     S: Germany
3493    
3494     +N: Hans Reiser
3495     +E: reiser@namesys.com
3496     +W: http://www.namesys.com/
3497     +D: official Linux kernel hairstyle critic
3498     +S: 6979 Exeter Dr
3499     +S: Oakland, CA 94611
3500     +S: USA
3501     +
3502     N: Joerg Reuter
3503     E: jreuter@yaina.de
3504     W: http://yaina.de/jreuter/
3505 root 1.387 %
3506 root 1.232 Partial lynx-output for mail sent by "T-Online Vertragsbrief":
3507     [poeppel_magenta.gif]
3508 root 1.387 %
3509 root 1.231 [http://www.dark-skies.org/theproblems.html#security]
3510     Better ligthing does not affect crime rates
3511 root 1.387 %
3512 root 1.230 [http://www.immunitysec.com/downloads/tc0.pdf]
3513     Label: "Difficulty of owning Windows vs. Difficulty to make this graph"
3514 root 1.387 %
3515 root 1.229 [rxvt-unicode (mine! :) vs. gnome-terminal :)]
3516     [http://bugs.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137864]
3517     [...]
3518     Upgrading to major: the first person to fix this (fix = performance is
3519     within a factor of 2 of rxvt-unicode for all four of the tests here) gets
3520     $50 from me, or an expensive dinner + all the beer they can handle if they
3521     ever visit Sydney, Australia ;)
3522     [...]
3523     Tagging this critical+urgent. How dare I, you ask? Doubling the reward -
3524     $100 if this is fixed (see above) before September 1, 2004. $0 after that
3525     (and I'll return it to a normal bug ;) If anyone else wants to contribute
3526     to whoever ends up fixing this, please join in..
3527 root 1.387 %
3528 root 1.228 [SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301268,00.html]
3529     [SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301538,00.html]
3530     Dass die Flimmerkiste ein beliebiges "Nullmedium" sei, beklagen
3531     Kulturkritiker von jeher. Doch nun zeigt selbst ein unvoreingenommener
3532     Blick aufs TV-Programm: Die Quote ist heilig, das Niveau sinkt auf breiter
3533     Front - auch bei ARD und ZDF. Verdummt die Na
3534 root 1.387 %
3535 root 1.226 [SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM,ed-XX1sNy0yR7p~QMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/brainleak%202004-03-02.html]
3536 root 1.227 [...] Tech savvy people will be inclining towards clicking the cancel
3537     button by default whenever they are presented a question which they don't
3538     fully understand, or didn't expect to see. Regular computer users will
3539     be inclined to press the Ok button instead, because they fear that by
3540     clicking cancel they might be causing something they don't understand not
3541     to work, something that they probably won't be able to fix afterwards
3542     anyway. If a geek fucks up somehow, he'll know what to do to fix it
3543     anyway, so there's no harm done clicking cancel. [...]
3544 root 1.387 %
3545 root 1.223 [http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/00/10/marienbad.html]
3546     I once had a postmodern intertextual moment at a drugstore bookrack when I
3547 root 1.224 picked up a paperback with the following title: Bram Stoker's Dracula:
3548 root 1.223 A Novelization Based on the Original Screenplay.
3549 root 1.387 %
3550 root 1.222 [bts show 215647]
3551     [yes, the whole thing]
3552 root 1.387 %
3553 root 1.221 [bts show 254316]
3554 root 1.247 > > The problem is not in luit, it's not in XTerm, it's not even in termcap;
3555     > > it's in the morass of complexity that some mindless jerk who'll be first
3556     > > against the wall when the revolution comes standardised as ISO 2022.
3557 root 1.221 >
3558     > ( google suggests 2022 has many fans ;-)
3559    
3560     We'll use a larger wall.
3561 root 1.387 %
3562 root 1.220 [Maedhros35 about "Clockwork Orange" on IMDB]
3563     This is a movie I would not recommend even to my worst enemy. It is a
3564     horrible picture, containing too much random violence and rape committed
3565     by four no-goods in white pyjamas, than is good for anyone too watch.
3566    
3567     The only fun moment is when the main character, being brainwashed into a
3568     non-violent state of mind, is being bashed by his former friends.
3569    
3570     There may be some "hidden message" in this movie about society and blah,
3571     but the message (not too well brought) is completely drowned.
3572    
3573     It is not even a waste of your time, it is worse than that. Avoid at all
3574     cost.
3575     ["too much violence" but "the only fun moment".... What the...!?]
3576 root 1.387 %
3577 root 1.219 When searching on google for:
3578    
3579 root 1.225 kakerlake schabe made
3580 root 1.219
3581     Google asked me wether I instead wanted to look for:
3582    
3583 root 1.225 kakerlake _schwabe_ made
3584 root 1.387 %
3585 root 1.218 What we learned this week;
3586     "Hell is a bad place to be and renders with 8-12fps"
3587 root 1.387 %
3588 root 1.216 "Britain is one of only three countries in the world (the others are
3589     Germany and Egypt) enduring stricter censorship today than 25years ago"
3590 root 1.387 %
3591 root 1.215 [translated]
3592     23:07 <schmorp> libtool is soo broken
3593     23:07 <schmorp> ./libtool gcc-3.4 ...
3594     23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
3595     23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
3596     23:07 <schmorp> ...
3597     23:07 <schmorp> libtool --tag=ulubulu
3598     23:07 <schmorp> libtool: ignoring unknown tag ulubulu
3599     23:07 <schmorp> and it works
3600 root 1.387 %
3601 root 1.214 History does not repeat itself. Historians repeat each other.
3602     -- Lord Balfour
3603 root 1.387 %
3604 root 1.213 The whole of Mozilla is just one big focus bug.
3605 root 1.387 %
3606 root 1.212 <Beerman> When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then
3607     I realised that The Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked
3608     him to forgive me.
3609 root 1.387 %
3610 root 1.211 [slashdot]
3611     > there are currently no active, reliable ways to obtain the program listings for New Zealand television
3612    
3613     I have been to NZ. You have no television.
3614 root 1.387 %
3615 root 1.210 [IMDB user about "What?" by Roman Polanski]
3616     "What?" fills the gap for those who get a kick out of 70's porn plots, but
3617     get bored during the sex scenes.
3618 root 1.387 %
3619 root 1.209 I say to you that the VCR is to the ... American public as the Boston
3620     strangler is to the woman home alone.
3621     - Jack Valenti (CEO, MPAA)
3622 root 1.387 %
3623 root 1.208 [Bruce Schneier]
3624     SP2 is an important security upgrade to Windows XP, and I hope it is
3625     widely installed among licensed XP users. I also hope it is quickly
3626     pirated, so unlicensed XP users can also install it. In order for me
3627     to remain secure on the Internet, I need everyone to become more
3628     secure. And the more people who install SP2, the more we all benefit.
3629 root 1.387 %
3630 root 1.207 [From Paul Eggert]
3631     [...] Worse, HP-UX asctime rejects any tm_year that is negative; this
3632     violates the C standard, but HP won't take my bug reports since I'm not a
3633     HP-UX customer. [...]
3634 root 1.387 %
3635 root 1.206 >>>Just curious, If I recall correctly, didn't Forth used to be FORTH?
3636     >>
3637     >>Since FORTH is not an acronym (the way BASIC, LISP, FORTRAN and C are)
3638     >>but a (deliberate) misspelling of "fourth", when it became possible to
3639     >>use LC the fashion became to do so. My book, "Scientific FORTH" (1992)
3640     >>spelled it in UC.
3641 root 1.247 >
3642     >
3643 root 1.206 > BASIC, LISP and FORTRAN are acronyms. C isn't.
3644    
3645     C isn't all caps, just the initial letter.
3646 root 1.387 %
3647 root 1.205 [comp.lang.c]
3648     > According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language
3649    
3650     I'm sorry, but that's like quoting Bjarne Stroustrup on correct ISO C
3651     usage.
3652    
3653     Richard
3654 root 1.387 %
3655 root 1.204 I remember Elwyn Berlekamp describing what goes on at computer go
3656     tournaments (where computer programs play go against each other) - unlike
3657     at computer chess tournaments where the programs far surpass their
3658     creators, at go tournaments the creators sit there and look at a game in
3659     play and say things to each other like, "Gosh, I wonder if my program will
3660     repair that weakness before your program notices it."
3661 root 1.387 %
3662 root 1.203 21:40 <oesi> sansho: du bist kindisch. :)
3663     21:40 <sansho> oesi: das hab ich mir von dir abgeguckt
3664 root 1.387 %
3665 root 1.202 MarkD [-]: The trouble with political jokes is that some of them get elected
3666 root 1.387 %
3667 root 1.201 A coherent understanding of Philosophy will convince you that you are
3668     competent to understand the universe and achieve the human values that
3669     make life meaningful. You will know when you know something and when you
3670     don't, when you understand something and when you don't, and why. You
3671     will also realize why morality and ethics are too important to be left to
3672     anyone but yourself. You will learn that there are no shortcuts to truth,
3673     no authorities you can follow blindly, and perhaps most important, that
3674     nothing at all exists except reality. In sum, you will know what human
3675     existence means and implies.
3676    
3677     [Introduction to Philosophy, Joel Katz]
3678 root 1.387 %
3679 root 1.201 > > Casts from void* are necessary in C++, not in C.
3680     >
3681     > I am aware... I'm fishing for more info! Perhaps if I reposted again and
3682     > said you were wrong I'll get more...
3683     >
3684     > You're WRONG!
3685    
3686 root 1.388 void* is implicitly converted to the destination pointer type (C99 §6.3.2.3
3687     and §7.20.3.1).
3688 root 1.387 %
3689 root 1.200 From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu>
3690     In the DOS days, I had a scattering of students who really
3691     knew about computers. In the XP days, I have none.
3692 root 1.387 %
3693 root 1.199 [another variation, more useful]
3694     A. It should be obvious.
3695     Q. How is it hard?
3696     A. Because it makes it hard to follow conversations.
3697     Q. Why is top-posting bad?
3698 root 1.387 %
3699 root 1.198 [windows is a good place to learn programming]
3700     Subject: Linux c prog doesn't work on Sun Solaris Machine....?
3701    
3702     Compiled using g++ on linux and then I tried to execute it on Solaris.
3703     The error message was something like "can't execute a.out"
3704    
3705     - works ok on linux
3706     - ran chmod so Sun user has execute/read/etc permissions. chmod u=rwx
3707    
3708     Any clues why?
3709     I am new to the non windows world.
3710    
3711     Thanks
3712 root 1.387 %
3713 root 1.197 [comp.lang.c]
3714     > I want to write some data on the EEPROM of a PIC 16F877 microcontroller via
3715     > serial port rs232. What library can I use with a gcc compiler to perform
3716     > this ?
3717    
3718     This is not a C question. Please try asking again in comp.arch.embedded where
3719     we will advise you to use an 8051, AVR, or MSP430 instead of the PIC.
3720 root 1.387 %
3721 root 1.196 [comp.std.c]
3722     In message <c4k0mj$fmp$1@sunnews.cern.ch>
3723     Dan.Pop@cern.ch (Dan Pop) wrote:
3724    
3725     > In <nfa0k1-03l.ln1@jones.homeip.net> lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com writes:
3726 root 1.247 >
3727     > >The text of the standard only yields one reasonable interpretation.
3728     >
3729 root 1.196 > Yup, mine!
3730 root 1.387 %
3731 root 1.195 [links-2.1pre13 ChangeLog]
3732     Thu Oct 9 16:44:10 GMT 2003 mikulas:
3733    
3734     Do not print 1000l on FreeBSD console on exit
3735 root 1.387 %
3736 root 1.194 [an old question, revisited]
3737     http://www.style.org/unladenswallow/
3738 root 1.387 %
3739 root 1.194 [comp.lang.c]
3740 root 1.247 > can any one translate the following codes into c++ codes,
3741 root 1.194
3742     This is comp.lang.c. We do C, not C++. We do not translate C into
3743     obfuscated languages. The good news is that your code already _is_ C++.
3744 root 1.387 %
3745 root 1.194 [comp.lang.c]
3746     I didn't say he was incorrect. I said he was an idiot.
3747 root 1.387 %
3748 root 1.193 according to babelfish "glibber" in german means "more glibber" in english :-)
3749 root 1.387 %
3750 root 1.192 [Debian Bug #163625 features one of my favourite bug report subjects:]
3751     Installing additional mozilla Debian packages
3752 root 1.247 deletes additionally installed mozilla packages
3753 root 1.387 %
3754 root 1.388 [Aus einer Werbung für dne "Windows-Berater". Es ist erschreckend, zeigt
3755     aber, das manche Maßnahmen von Microsoft völlig irreführenderweise als
3756     Sicherheitsmaßnahme verstanden und dargestellt werden. Ich frage mich, wie
3757 root 1.190 DRM in Zukunft aufgenommen und beworben werden wird...]
3758    
3759 root 1.388 "Kaum angekündigt, schon ist der Registrierungsschutz geknackt"
3760 root 1.190
3761 root 1.388 Das neue Windows XP lässt sich nur mit einem besonderen Registrierungscode
3762 root 1.190 dauerhaft betreiben. Besorgt sich der Anwender diese Lizenz nicht,
3763     wird das System gesperrt. Damit sollen Raubkopien und unerlaubte
3764     Mehrfachnutzung verhindert werden. Kaum vorgestellt, knacken Hacker
3765 root 1.388 diese Verschlüsselung schon. Checklisten zeigen Ihnen, wie dieser Klau
3766     abläuft. Damit Sie sich und Ihr System vor ungebetenen Zugriffen und Viren
3767     schützen können.
3768 root 1.387 %
3769 root 1.189 [Reiner Gamma]
3770     http://www.geocities.com/kc5lei/SWIRL2001.htm
3771 root 1.387 %
3772 root 1.188 >> Asshole keep you shit out of alt.binaries.games.adult until you read
3773     [...]
3774 root 1.187 >Dude, thisi is not "alt.binaries.games.adult".
3775 root 1.188 [...]
3776 root 1.187 Yes, it is. Or, it was, till your post cut the crosspost. It was
3777     crossposted to several groups and the person you're replying to will
3778     never get your message.
3779 root 1.387 %
3780 root 1.186 [http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/doc/Details.html.pl]
3781     As this project will always run unknown binary code of proprietary W32
3782     filesystem drivers, the code can never be trusted.
3783 root 1.387 %
3784 root 1.185 [http://www.hello-penguin.com/gtm-perl/doc/Perl.html]
3785     (look at the BUGS section... very funny to read, btw., it's
3786     a sourceforge project called GT.M).
3787 root 1.387 %
3788 root 1.184 bigger things. We\\\\\\\'d be using C + asm and Hax
3789     01:15 <Sesse> we all the backslashes?
3790     01:15 <schmorp> no idea, i have these in some of my descriptions, too
3791     01:15 <schmorp> it seems that sourceofrge does " -> \" on every deascription change
3792     01:15 <Sesse> sounds like php
3793     01:15 <schmorp> i guess it's written in php
3794     01:15 <schmorp> *g*
3795     01:15 <Sesse> :-D
3796 root 1.387 %
3797 root 1.183 http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/
3798     [...] At the beginning I didn't expect that I would actually succeed,
3799     since I thought I would need almost half of that just for the headers. I
3800     think my first cut was 458 bytes in size. I was quite pleased with myself
3801     when I trimmed that down to less than 300 bytes, ecstatic when I finally
3802     reached the 255-byte goal, and downright triumphant when I later got it to
3803     work in 238 bytes. By the time I had a 198-byte version, I was just plain
3804     dumbfounded. It's now at 171 bytes. [...]
3805 root 1.387 %
3806 root 1.182 [http://www.mindspring.com/~kimall/Japanese/polite.html]
3807     [...] Americans didn't invent English (although the Brits will happily
3808     disown our mangled version of it! :-) ) [...]
3809 root 1.387 %
3810 root 1.181 [Eugene Spafford]
3811     During the heights of some of the recent viruses, I was discarding 30Mb of
3812     email per day -- all of it viruses. And I should point out -- viruses for
3813     Windows. There have been something like 100,000 viruses for MS operating
3814     systems, only about 50 for the Mac, and about 3 for commercial Unix
3815     systems. That difference isn't because of a difference in the prevalence
3816     of the machines -- there are basic architectural differences.
3817 root 1.387 %
3818 root 1.180 [http://MarginalHacks.com/]
3819     If you can't vi it, it sucks.
3820 root 1.387 %
3821 root 1.180 [from the somewhat outdated xterm-faq]
3822     GNOME TERMINAL
3823     [...]
3824     The documentation is fragmentary (with a comment suggesting that the
3825     author does not know where to find relevant information), and the program
3826     fares badly with vttest. [...] But it suffices for vi.
3827     [.. later]
3828     There is a variation of xvt (ancestor of rxvt) originally known as kvt
3829     bundled with KDE which may be referred to as "kterm", but I do not find it
3830     interesting, other than to comment that it was a poor choice of name.
3831 root 1.387 %
3832 root 1.179 [I *love* X programs]
3833     [xc/programs/xprop/xprop.c]
3834     /*
3835 root 1.247 * blip: a debugging routine. Prints Blip! on stderr with flushing.
3836 root 1.179 */
3837     void blip()
3838 root 1.247 {
3839 root 1.179 fflush(stdout);
3840     fprintf(stderr, "blip!\n");
3841     fflush(stderr);
3842 root 1.247 }
3843 root 1.387 %
3844 root 1.178 [pavel machek commenting on a proposed patch]
3845     + int alternative_order = 999;
3846    
3847     Why not 666? :-).
3848 root 1.387 %
3849 root 1.178 [yosh on gimp-developer]
3850     It's also better to research your suggestions a little, so that they don't
3851     sound completely out there, thereby reinforcing the viewpoint that Windows
3852     users are clueless.
3853 root 1.387 %
3854 root 1.177 [modularity makes unix systems more secure]
3855     http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/36029.html
3856 root 1.387 %
3857 root 1.176 [beware german translations]
3858     dpkg: Warnung - ignoriere Kollision, kann sowieso weitermachen!
3859 root 1.387 %
3860 root 1.175 [http://www.cypherspace.org/adam/hacks/lotus-nsa-key.html, look around there]
3861     NSA's Backdoor Key from Lotus-Notes
3862 root 1.387 %
3863 root 1.174 The word "ampersand" is an alteration of the phrase "et, per se and" (that
3864     is: "et by itself [means] and"), which became corrupted to "and, per se
3865     and", and finally, ampersand.
3866 root 1.387 %
3867 root 1.173 [xc/lib/X11/lcUTF8.c]
3868     [...] We distinguish three classes of clients: [1st] [...] [2nd] Clients
3869     which accept CompoundText with multiple character sets and parse it
3870     themselves. (Example: emacs, xemacs.) [3rd] [...] In a distant future,
3871     when clients of the first and second kind will have disappeared, [...]
3872 root 1.387 %
3873 root 1.171 [linux-2.6/drivers/md/Kconfig]
3874     WARNING: RAID-6 is currently highly experimental. If you
3875     use it, there is no guarantee whatsoever that it won't
3876     destroy your data, eat your disk drives, insult your mother,
3877     or re-appoint George W. Bush.
3878 root 1.387 %
3879 root 1.170 [http://www.herodios.com/herron_tc/atsign.html]
3880     Many Finnish terms for @ are connected with cats. Not content with naming
3881     the sign for what it looks like, Finnish names it for what it looks like
3882     sounds like. In addition to "kissanhnta [cat's tail], "miau," "miumau,"
3883     and "miuku" are all "miau merkki" [meow marks] in Finnish. Other terms
3884     from Finnish include "apinanhanta" [a monkey's tail], or "hiirenhanta"
3885     [mouse's tail]. Some "computer people" use the English word "at."
3886 root 1.387 %
3887 root 1.247 17:07 <oesi> schmorp: mal ein guter kommentar auf heise zum thema "Bill tourt durch
3888 root 1.388 die USA und kündigt innovative neuentwicklungen an"
3889     17:08 <oesi> Kommentar war: "was hat er angekündigt: drive-letter in unicode?"
3890 root 1.387 %
3891 root 1.168 [Ken Lunde about his copy of KS C 5657-1991:]
3892     Here's another interesting note. My official copy of this
3893     standard has all of its 2,856 hanja hand-written.
3894 root 1.387 %
3895 root 1.172 [cvs, while checking in changes to uunet's radiusd]
3896 root 1.168 confused about file platform.h -- ignoring
3897 root 1.387 %
3898 root 1.167 [http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/02/24/1011245.shtml]
3899 root 1.247 And most likely, the FBI didn't tell the hosting company exactly what it
3900     is they wanted. When the Feds come in with a search warrant, they don't
3901     ask for your help. They say, "stand aside" and commence
3902 root 1.167 %
3903 root 1.166 http://www.bash.org/?178890
3904 root 1.387 %
3905 root 1.165 [http://www.bash.org/?75016]
3906     <ig3l|Guel> If Osama B. isn't in Afghanistan, and if he isn't dead, we believe he is in another country" - US army General
3907 root 1.387 %
3908 root 1.247 00:56 <oesi> ulpfr: ich schrieb mal einen kompletten mailer in emacs, weil mir rmail
3909     nicht gefallen hat. man wird aelter und reifer und droppt dann emacs
3910 root 1.164 einfach :)
3911     00:56 <ulpfr> Weichei
3912 root 1.387 %
3913 root 1.163 [spca50x.sourceforge.net]
3914     /*
3915     * Function compares two strings.
3916 root 1.247 * Return offset in pussy where prick ends if "prick" may penetrate
3917 root 1.163 * int "pussy" like prick into pussy, -1 otherwise.
3918     */
3919     static inline int match(const char* prick, const char* pussy, int len2)
3920     {
3921     int len1 = strlen(prick); //length of male string
3922     [...]
3923 root 1.387 %
3924 root 1.163 http://www.leckse.net/profilieren/chat
3925 root 1.387 %
3926 root 1.388 rohw, schleymig und formlos Fleisch wie di Schleuch eines Tündenfischs
3927 root 1.387 %
3928 root 1.162 [rxvt-*/src/init.[cC]]
3929     /* grab colors before netscape does */
3930     Get_Colours ();
3931 root 1.387 %
3932 root 1.388 [oesi über apache-2.0]
3933 root 1.160 03:10 <oesi> ist mir egal, ich fahre alle 24h den apache runter...
3934     03:10 <oesi> ich fahre praktisch das 1.3er config-file. das gibt sicherheit :)
3935     03:11 <oesi> ich kann apache nicht stoppen.
3936     03:11 <oesi> apachectl stop
3937     03:11 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
3938     03:11 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
3939     03:12 <oesi> wie konnte ich den starten?
3940     03:12 <schmorp> *rofl*
3941 root 1.161 [...]
3942     03:29 <oesi> es ist kein scherz. wirklich:
3943     03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl sslstart
3944     03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl stop
3945     03:29 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
3946     03:29 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
3947 root 1.387 %
3948 root 1.159 [http://www.jmarshall.com/tools/cgiproxy/]
3949     [...] Here's a demo (username "free", password "speech") [...]
3950 root 1.387 %
3951 root 1.158 [rxvt/src/screen.C]
3952     #ifdef DEBUG_STRICT
3953 root 1.247 assert(screen.cur.row >= 0);
3954 root 1.158 #else /* drive with your eyes closed */
3955     MAX_IT(screen.cur.row, 0);
3956     #endif
3957 root 1.387 %
3958 root 1.157 [http://www.mine-control.com/zack/timesync/timesync.html]
3959     [...] Also, anecdotal evidence from network programmers suggests that the
3960     UDP implementation under Win32 is unstable and overly-unreliable. [...]
3961 root 1.387 %
3962 root 1.156 > > Ceterum censeo | PGP encrypted mail preferred.
3963     > > Redmond esse delendam. | PGP Key at www.MPA-Garching.MPG.de/~nog/
3964     >
3965     > Willkomme im Club .... :-)))
3966    
3967     Danke - ich bin schon lange dabei... ;-)
3968     --
3969     OpenVMS @ 25 | Martin Vorlaender | VMS & WNT programmer
3970 root 1.387 %
3971 root 1.388 Um die Jahrhundertwende erfand ein Mann namens Friedolin Tär einen
3972     IQ-Test, der die Gesamtpersönlichkeit sehr stark miteinbezog.
3973     Charakterstärke, Grosszügigkeit, flexibles Denken etc. wurden also
3974     mitbewertet. Die Skala mit der Maßeinheit "Tär" wies ein großes Spektrum
3975     auf. Ärzte, Wissenschaftler erreichen IQ's im Megatär-Bereich. Der
3976     Durchschnittsmensch weist einige Kilotär auf. Nach unten gibt es Dezitär,
3977     Centitär... und schießlich Mil(l)itär...
3978 root 1.387 %
3979 root 1.154 http://senseis.xmp.net/?GetStrongAtGote
3980     http://users.skynet.be/rexburton/ritchie.htm
3981 root 1.387 %
3982 root 1.153 Subject: [Swsusp-devel] 2.6.1: It could go faster if I didn't have egg on my face.
3983 root 1.387 %
3984 root 1.153 "It's not Hollywood. War is real, war is primarily not about defeat or
3985     victory, it is about death. I've seen thousands and thousands of dead
3986     bodies. Do you think I want to have an academic debate on this subject?"
3987     -- Robert Fisk
3988 root 1.387 %
3989 root 1.151 [the satellite death spiral: why spacecraft are unnecessarily expensive]
3990     http://www.dynacon.ca/pdf/files/newspdf_63.pdf
3991 root 1.152 [see also the small satellites homepage]
3992     http://centaur.sstl.co.uk/SSHP/
3993 root 1.387 %
3994 root 1.150 [http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/files/lec_lev.htm]
3995     "Anthropologists concur that America is an exceedingly 'low-touch,'
3996     high-violence culture"
3997     [...]
3998     "[...] Republican members of the House of Representatives called for the
3999     resignation of Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders, whose transgression was to
4000     suggest, in response to a question following a speech to sex educators,
4001     that masturbation was an appropriate subject for classroom discussion.
4002     This remark, according to one congressman, was part of a social movement
4003     that was "killing the moral fiber of America" and just one symptom of
4004     a decline also manifested in reckless driving, an indecisive military
4005     policy-dubbed "mission creep," and homosexuals in the Boy Scouts." [...]
4006    
4007     Masturbation is an absolute taboo in the US. Many adults still think that
4008     they are the only ones who do such dirty things.
4009 root 1.387 %
4010 root 1.150 From: <[...]@aol.com>
4011     Subject: Re: [...]
4012    
4013     Marc wrote on 1/7/2004, 6:57 AM:
4014    
4015     > Congrats. No kidding, you are the first person @aol that ever sent me a
4016     > sensible mail. I was planning to reject mail from aol.com right away
4017     > since (in the last 8 years at least), nothing good came from there, but you
4018     > saved it :)
4019    
4020     Yeah, I get that a lot, but you've got to know that .aol.com email
4021     addresses are also used by the people who work for AOL (cough, cough :).
4022     [...]
4023 root 1.387 %
4024 root 1.150 From: Alan Cox
4025     > The code to disable prefetch on Athlon is 300 bytes and hurts your PIV?
4026     > Really? I'll dig back through the code, but I recall it as adding or
4027     > deleting an entry in a table to enable prefetch. If it's affecting PIV the
4028     > code to use prefetch is seriously broken.
4029    
4030     Big time. Its over 300 bytes long because its embedded in each inline
4031     prefetch and it causes a branch misprediction almost every time. Amazing
4032     what you find when you actually measure stuff 8)
4033     [...]
4034 root 1.387 %
4035 root 1.150 http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4036 root 1.387 %
4037 root 1.150 http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4038 root 1.387 %
4039 root 1.150 http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4040 root 1.387 %
4041 root 1.149 [FYI: java was officially announced in 1995, and certainly didn't exist
4042     even as a concept before 1991. It's interesting how many people nowadays
4043     claim to have decades of java experience]
4044     On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:11:54AM -0500, Robert Soros <robert@soros.ca> wrote:
4045     > I am extremely excited about your ideas to fix freenet and would be
4046     > willing to plug your code into fred (I have fourteen years java
4047     > programming experience.) Could you provide a link to your code? What
4048 root 1.387 %
4049 root 1.149 http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4050 root 1.387 %
4051 root 1.149 http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4052 root 1.387 %
4053 root 1.149 http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4054 root 1.387 %
4055 root 1.147 [in a private discussion about some potential problem that would cause]
4056     [mail not to be delivered]
4057     > > On the other hand, I see the same in some mail from RMS.
4058 root 1.247 >
4059 root 1.147 > Well, just because rms does it does not mean... :)
4060    
4061     My point is that the FSF is unlikely to install something that
4062     bounces RMS's mail, at least, not for long.
4063 root 1.387 %
4064 root 1.147 On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Piers Cawley wrote:
4065    
4066     > David Cantrell <david@cantrell.org.uk> writes:
4067     >
4068     > > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 11:16:52AM -0500, Tommie M. Jones wrote:
4069     > >> Anyone know of any perl software that does resume parsing.
4070     > >
4071     > > I don't *think* anyone has implemented continuations in perl, so I fail
4072     > > to see how you can have resumes. Or are you trying to parse some other
4073     > > language which does support this?
4074     >
4075    
4076     Just because we share a language does not mean we understand each other.
4077    
4078     In America there are two meanings for resume. One being to continue the
4079     other the equivalent of what ya'll call a CV (I think though I've never
4080     heard the term before) In the second definition resume is pronounced with
4081     a short u. I think there is a "`" in the proper spelling of the word but
4082     since Americans are not use to using punctuation in their words (other
4083     than to show ownership and contractions) it is usually loss.
4084 root 1.387 %
4085 root 1.147 echo $package has manual pages available in source form.
4086     echo "However, you don't have nroff, so they're probably useless to you."
4087     --Larry Wall in Configure from the perl distribution
4088 root 1.387 %
4089 root 1.146 AFTER 30 years of "daylight saving" - moving the clocks forward in the
4090     spring and then back again in the autumn - there is still an Abolish
4091     Daylight Saving Committee in New South Wales, Australia.
4092    
4093     Added to the usual claims of such campaigns - for example, that the
4094     extra hour of daylight in the evening in summer fades the curtains - is
4095     a new one from ADSC spokeswoman Judith Hall, of Gunnedah, who told the
4096     Sydney Morning Herald: "No man has the right to choose the time of the
4097     rising and setting of the sun, only God."
4098    
4099     Reader John McCallum, who told us about this, is surprised Hall doesn't
4100     explain why God doesn't simply exercise this choice. When people insist
4101     on moving their clocks forward, He should just move the sunrise forward
4102     and thwart them that way.
4103 root 1.387 %
4104 root 1.146 [Defect Report #205 to ISO-C]
4105     There was a unanimous vote that the feature is ugly, and a good consensus
4106     that its incorporation into the standard at the 11th hour was an
4107     unfortunate decision.
4108 root 1.387 %
4109 root 1.247 02:23 <oesi> Breaking News: SCO stellt per Wahrsager Codeklau in HURD in einem Jahr
4110 root 1.146 fest ;)
4111 root 1.387 %
4112 root 1.146 [http://www.unicode.org/standard/WhatIsUnicode.html]
4113    
4114     Last updated: - Invalid Date
4115 root 1.387 %
4116 root 1.146 http://www.bash.org/?99060
4117 root 1.387 %
4118 root 1.145 [IZ-Buzzword-Bullshit-Bingo]
4119     http://www.l13.de/it/ibbb.html
4120 root 1.387 %
4121 root 1.144 Q: What is the state of the object after its lifetime has ended?
4122    
4123     A: As a well-known software guru[3] once put it, speaking about a
4124     similar code fragment and anthropomorphically referring to the
4125     local object as a "he":
4126    
4127     "He's not pining! He's passed on! This parrot is no more! He
4128     has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker!
4129     He's a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn't
4130     nailed him to the perch he'd be pushing up the daisies! His
4131     metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's
4132     kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down
4133     the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible! THIS IS AN
4134     EX-PARROT!"
4135    
4136     - Dr. M. Python, BMath, MASc, PhD (CompSci)
4137 root 1.387 %
4138 root 1.144 [ach du schande]
4139     "pflichtpfandfrei"
4140 root 1.387 %
4141 root 1.142 [a comment on the demonstrations against bush in london]
4142     The police will shoot you.
4143    
4144     OK, that's not strictly true. The CIA will shoot you. Then the police will
4145     arrest the CIA. Then American troops will invade.
4146    
4147 root 1.247 Just another average day in central London.
4148 root 1.387 %
4149 root 1.141 [this signature gave me a laugh...]
4150     [...]even better is if there is a system function that sends out an arp
4151     reply.
4152    
4153     pls. cc my email address
4154    
4155     tia
4156     pd
4157    
4158    
4159 root 1.247 --
4160 root 1.141 ^X^C
4161     q
4162     quit
4163     :q
4164     ^C
4165     end
4166     x
4167     exit
4168     ZZ
4169     ^D
4170     ?
4171     help
4172     shit
4173     .
4174 root 1.387 %
4175 root 1.140 * muppet also hates bloatus notes. it doesn't need vnc to make it slow.
4176 root 1.387 %
4177 root 1.140 [From the File::Spec manpage on catdir]
4178     Concatenate two or more directory names to form a complete path ending
4179     with a directory. But remove the trailing slash from the resulting string,
4180     because it doesn't look good, isn't necessary and confuses OS2. [...]
4181 root 1.387 %
4182 root 1.140 [I love it]
4183     http://www.swindonweb.com/life/lifemagi0.htm
4184     http://www.armin-grewe.com/holiday/wiltshire/swindon-roundabout.htm
4185 root 1.387 %
4186 root 1.139 "I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they go by."
4187     - Douglas Adams
4188 root 1.387 %
4189 root 1.138 Bill Gates is repeating the mantra that users are to blame for insecure
4190     PCs, in an interview with a Canadian newspaper. This refrain is familiar
4191     to the INQUIRER: Gates said more or less the same thing when he addressed
4192     an Assembly of CEOs in Berlin a few weeks ago.
4193    
4194 root 1.247 The chief software architect (CSA.'.) told IT Business that perfect code
4195     wasn't the answer to security problems, but firewalls and keeping the
4196     software up to date were more important. The problems that have occurred
4197     this year wouldn't have happened if firms and individuals had set up
4198     their software properly.
4199 root 1.138
4200     He also claims in the article that Microsoft has always had security
4201     patches out before the exploits happened. Developers were also to blame
4202     because they didn't understand the application program interfaces, Gates
4203     told the publication.
4204    
4205 root 1.247 And he also claimed that all forms of Unix and Linux have a greater
4206     number of vulnerabilities than Microsoft but don't spread as much because
4207     "they're not as dense" as Windows. Low volume software is hit by
4208     malicious people, high volume software, that is Windows, is hit by people
4209     who want visibility and glory.
4210 root 1.387 %
4211 root 1.137 [In the FAQ for a bootp client:]
4212    
4213     o You are using --server to point to a server which doesn't run a bootp server
4214    
4215     x Try not using it.
4216 root 1.387 %
4217 root 1.136 [http://www.politicalpulpit.com/Luke/LukeArchive0403.htm]
4218     The facts are simple: In Lynn, MA Principal of the Lynn English High
4219     School, Andrew Fila refused to allow teacher of English, Jeremy McKeen,
4220     to show the disputed film in his classes. McKeen had already submitted
4221     Moore's opus to his Department Head, Jane Balesta, for approval which she
4222     had given.
4223    
4224     Said Fila, "I just pulled it. This is not the time nor the place to be
4225     showing something like that. The producer (Moore) is also an anti war
4226     person as well."
4227 root 1.387 %
4228 root 1.136 [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0254686/]
4229 root 1.388 "Ich habe keine Gefühle, merken sie sich das, Walter. Und wenn ich welche
4230     habe, werden sie nie über meine Intelligenz siegen".
4231 root 1.387 %
4232 root 1.388 ["Was ist ein Kopierschutz überhaupt?"]
4233 root 1.135 [http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,270719,00.html]
4234 root 1.134
4235     Damit entspricht Windows der Definition eines illegalen Tools zur Umgehung
4236 root 1.388 des Kopierschutzes und müsste vom Markt genommen werden.
4237 root 1.135 [...]
4238 root 1.134 Das Bundesjustizministerium ist der Auffassung, dass die Frage nur durch
4239 root 1.388 ein Gericht zu klären sei. Das Programm "Windows" kenne man zu wenig.
4240 root 1.135 [...]
4241     Handelt es sich bei Windows also rechtlich um das Abwehren einer Straftat
4242     oder um das illegale Aushebeln eines Kopierschutzverfahrens?
4243 root 1.387 %
4244 root 1.134 http://www.nature.com/nsu/021209/021209-10.html#b1
4245 root 1.387 %
4246 root 1.132 [A document] Written to answer the often asked question about the requirements
4247     on the kernel to get a POSIX compliant thread implementation. And I don't
4248     mean an implementation like this horrible implementation from IBM.
4249     -- Ulrich Drepper
4250 root 1.387 %
4251 root 1.131 GCC generates truly horrible code when no optimization is enabled.
4252     -- Ulrich Drepper
4253 root 1.387 %
4254 root 1.131 Most programmers think that the programs they write are fairly well
4255     written and perform as good as possible. In most cases this is not
4256 root 1.133 correct. -- Ulrich Drepper
4257 root 1.387 %
4258 root 1.130 Even though I cannot accept the rejection of fair use rights by the film
4259     and music industry I cannot endorse piracy.
4260     -- Ulrich Drepper
4261 root 1.387 %
4262 root 1.130 Never say "PIC Code"!. This is duplication.
4263     -- Ulrich Drepper
4264 root 1.387 %
4265 root 1.129 [http://www.ffk.co.at/programme_ffksnetmanager.asp]
4266 root 1.388 Ping und Netsend laufen jetzt über die Windows API, daher schneller und
4267     zuverlässiger
4268 root 1.387 %
4269 root 1.129 [comment from linux/drivers/block/floppy.c]
4270     /*
4271     * 1999/08/13 -- Paul Slootman -- floppy stopped working on Alpha after 24
4272     * days, 6 hours, 32 minutes and 32 seconds (i.e. MAXINT jiffies; ints were
4273     * being used to store jiffies, which are unsigned longs).
4274     */
4275 root 1.387 %
4276 root 1.128 [Microsoft creates a problem and inspires an industry to work around it.
4277     Just Great. Also learn about Microsoft Logic(tm): DLL's save memory, so
4278     you need to use them. But please use your own private versions of all your
4279     dlls so that they aren't shared...]
4280     http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnsetup/html/dlldanger1.asp
4281 root 1.387 %
4282 root 1.128 [http://lorrie.cranor.org/pubs/drm03.html]
4283     Pirating Movies
4284    
4285     [...] The attackers aren't DVD owners making illegal copies and putting
4286     them on file sharing networks. The attackers are industry insiders making
4287     illegal copies long before the DVD is ever on the market.
4288 root 1.387 %
4289 root 1.128 [Look at the time scale...]
4290     http://www.networm.org/graphics/worm-progression.Sep03.pdf
4291 root 1.387 %
4292 root 1.127 [Just funny]
4293     http://www.zug.com/pranks/turnpike/
4294 root 1.387 %
4295 root 1.127 [http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,60391,00.html]
4296     The CEO of Symantec is advocating "legislation to criminalize the
4297     sharing of information and tools online that can be used by malicious
4298     hackers and virus writers." Doesn't he realize that most of his
4299     company's engineers would end up in jail?
4300 root 1.387 %
4301 root 1.126 [http://top40-charts.com/artist.php?aid=1145]
4302     Why is it you forgive Bush for saying "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET OSAMA".
4303     and "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET SADDAM". "I GUARANTEE THERE ARE WMD'S" etc
4304     etc. Yet now he could care less about them? Of course, Clinton lies about
4305     sex and that's a huge deal(not that i am justifying what Bubba did)
4306    
4307     Why is it when the marines stormed in, they protected the oil fields but
4308     left all the other resources of Iraq to be looted?
4309    
4310     Why is it that the White House doesn't want to release information on
4311     9/11, and only gave the investigation a $3 million budget?(it took $70
4312     million to find out Clinton got a BJ, and that's all they found out for
4313     $70 million!!). Meanwhile, even with a pathetic budget, the WH stonewalls
4314     the investigating committee. It's not enough for the WH to just underfund
4315     them, theyve got to make sure they can't get to any usefull information in
4316     the first place!
4317 root 1.387 %
4318 root 1.247 Buying a Unix machine guarantees you a descent into Hell. It starts when
4319     you plug the computer in and it won't boot. Yes, they really did sell you
4320     a $10,000 computer with an unformatted disk drive.
4321 root 1.125 -- Philip Greenspun
4322 root 1.387 %
4323 root 1.124 "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we
4324     don't believe in it at all." -- Noam Chomsky
4325 root 1.387 %
4326 root 1.124 "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right
4327     to say it." -- not actually from Voltaire
4328 root 1.387 %
4329 root 1.123 "Our ability to innovate is predicated on our ability to own the
4330     platform."
4331     [Kirk Koenigsbauer, strategy manager at Microsoft's MSN]
4332 root 1.387 %
4333 root 1.123 Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
4334     waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is that
4335     frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses
4336     and you can sitll raed it wiuthoit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not
4337     raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.
4338 root 1.320 [http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/personal/matt.davis/Cmabrigde/]
4339 root 1.387 %
4340 root 1.123 [The world is getting saner and saner. The whole world? No....]
4341     http://avirubin.com/vote.pdf
4342 root 1.387 %
4343 root 1.123 [http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1210067,00.asp]
4344     So what actually happens when your Windows XP machine crashes and asks
4345     if you want to send a report? The reports obviously accumulate in some
4346     database, and I can only assume that when one bin piles up with similar
4347     crash memos, the coders get to work. Exactly how many notifications does
4348     Microsoft get? Nobody knows for sure, but based on comments Bill Gates
4349     made at a recent meeting for analysts, the number must be astronomical.
4350     Gates said that 5 percent of Windows machines crash, on average, twice
4351     daily.
4352 root 1.387 %
4353 root 1.123 "...vielleicht praktisch manchmal auch mal geraten, das, wenn auch mal..."
4354 root 1.388 [Johann Gärtner, "Die Republikaner" bei einer Fernsehsendung über ihr
4355     Wahlprogramm. Das Zitat ist repräsentativ.]
4356 root 1.387 %
4357 root 1.123 [http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/rbt/condemn_text.htm]
4358     Critics of Congress and APA's concessions have analogized this situation
4359     to that of Galileo. At the APA's annual convention in August 1999 in
4360     Boston, an anonymous source, unknown to us, posted stickers around the
4361     convention that satirically read, "If the US Congress says that 'The sun
4362     revolves around the earth,' then that fact will be given most careful
4363     consideration in all articles published by the APA."
4364 root 1.387 %
4365 root 1.247 "It is insufficient to protect ourselves with laws; we need to protect ourselves with mathematics."
4366 root 1.123 -- Bruce Schneier
4367 root 1.387 %
4368 root 1.123 [it took me over 7 minutes to find this movie again on imdb...]
4369     [...so it must be good]
4370     http://german.imdb.com/title/tt0072131/
4371 root 1.387 %
4372 root 1.123 [mplayer/libmpcodecs/ad_realaud.c]
4373     [real uses a novel protection scheme...]
4374     raSetPwd(sh->context,"Ardubancel Quazanga"); // set password... lol.
4375 root 1.387 %
4376 root 1.120 [D-Info 3/2003 Database Dump]
4377     I've written a script that dumps the D-Info 2003 database as tsv to stdout.
4378     No idea why I announce it here...
4379 root 1.121 http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/data/dump-dinfo
4380 root 1.387 %
4381 root 1.119 [Oh My God!]
4382     Subject: aic7(censored) use after free in 2.5.66
4383 root 1.387 %
4384 root 1.119 [How many squares are on a go-board?]
4385 root 1.118 http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=UTF-8&client=googlet&selm=16394336.74521.15271%40kcbbs.gen.nz&rnum=2
4386 root 1.387 %
4387 root 1.117 [http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,1020303,00.html]
4388     When I first visited Russia, in 1986, I made friends with a musician whose
4389     father had been Brezhnev's personal doctor. One day we were talking about
4390     life during 'the period of stagnation' - the Brezhnev era. 'It must have
4391     been strange being so completely immersed in propaganda,' I said.
4392    
4393     'Ah, but there is the difference. We knew it was propaganda,' replied
4394     Sacha.
4395 root 1.387 %
4396 root 1.116 [From CRYPTO-GRAM]
4397     A reader sent in this conversation he overheard at a corporate security
4398     desk one morning:
4399    
4400     Employee: I have lost my photo-ID card, can I get a day pass please?
4401    
4402     Security Guard: Certainly, what is your serial number?
4403    
4404     Employee: 123456
4405    
4406     [Security guard pulls up the details on his computer, which includes a
4407     photograph of the employee.]
4408    
4409     Security Guard: Do you have a driver's license or another piece of
4410     identification which has your picture on it?
4411    
4412     Employee: Why would you need that?
4413    
4414     Security Guard: To match against our records.
4415    
4416     Employee: A picture of my face?
4417    
4418     Security Guard: Yes
4419    
4420     Employee: This is my face -- I am wearing it on my head.
4421    
4422     Security Guard: I need another piece of ID with a picture on it to
4423     compare against this one.
4424 root 1.387 %
4425 root 1.116 [Voting in the US might be in for surprises in the future]
4426     http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/voting.shtml
4427     [frankly, I don't trust any government if it's easy to fake votes]
4428 root 1.387 %
4429 root 1.116 MS Windows passwords can be cracked in an average of 13.6 seconds.
4430     Assuming your password consists of just letters and numbers, that is. But
4431     my guess is that almost everyone falls into that category.
4432    
4433     <http://news.com.com/2100-1009_3-5053063.html>
4434     <http://lasecpc13.epfl.ch/ntcrack/>
4435 root 1.387 %
4436 root 1.123 Eppur si muove!
4437 root 1.387 %
4438 root 1.116 [bwahahaha]
4439     "RV K-17"
4440 root 1.387 %
4441 root 1.116 "We're the world's greatest superpower, but we have a Third World
4442     electricity grid," said New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson.
4443 root 1.387 %
4444 root 1.116 [where NOT to learn german :)]
4445     [http://www.berlitz.at/worldclub/reise-spanisch/]
4446     <= Es ist 10:45 Uhr / viertel vor elf / dreiviertel zehn.
4447     => Son las once menos cuarto.
4448 root 1.387 %
4449 root 1.115 ceterum censeo carthaginem esse delendam
4450     ceterum censeo mundum non delendum esse
4451 root 1.387 %
4452 root 1.115 [http://www.urheberrecht.org/news/?id=1402&w=&p=1]
4453 root 1.388 Georgia Tornow, Generalsekretärin der Produzentenvereinigung film20 übt
4454     ebenfalls Kritik an der neuen Formulierung. »In anderen Ländern ist
4455 root 1.115 mitunter die Herstellung privater Kopien untersagt. Und in den USA wird
4456 root 1.388 sogar darüber nachgedacht, Geräte zur Kopienherstellung für illegal zu
4457     erklären«, so Tornow laut »blickpunktfilm.de«.
4458 root 1.387 %
4459 root 1.122 http://www.plif.com/archive/wc285.gif
4460 root 1.387 %
4461 root 1.115 [D-Info 2003, on my box:]
4462     Linux-Distribution nicht erkannt. Koennte RedHat sein.
4463 root 1.387 %
4464 root 1.115 [This patch removed the 75 records limit in D-Info 3/2003 linux for me]
4465     [patch dinfo.i386, YMMV]
4466     <00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba 4b00 0000 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
4467     >00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba ffff ff7f 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
4468 root 1.387 %
4469 root 1.115 [bwbasic-2.20pl2/bwbasic.doc]
4470     This program was originally begun in 1982 by my grandmother, Mrs.
4471     Verda Spell of Beaumont, TX. She was writing the program using
4472     an ANSI C compiler on an Osborne I CP/M computer and although my
4473     grandfather (Lockwood Spell) had bought an IBM PC with 256k of
4474     RAM my grandmother would not use it, paraphrasing George Herbert
4475     to the effect that "He who cannot in 64k program, cannot in 512k."
4476     She had used Microsoft BASIC and although she had nothing against
4477     it she said repeatedly that she didn't understand why Digital
4478     Research didn't "sue the socks off of Microsoft" for version 1.0
4479     of MSDOS and so I reckon that she hoped to undercut Microsoft's
4480     entire market and eventually build a new software empire on
4481     the North End of Beaumont. Her programming efforts were cut
4482     tragically short when she was thrown from a Beaumont to Port
4483     Arthur commuter train in the summer of 1986. I found the source
4484     code to bwBASIC on a single-density Osborne diskette in her knitting
4485     bag and eventually managed to have it all copied over to a PC
4486     diskette. I have revised it slightly prior to this release. You
4487     should know, though, that I myself am an historian, not a programmer.
4488 root 1.387 %
4489 root 1.114 [what high dan players in go think while playing:]
4490     "Must kill ... black stones ... black stones ... must die"
4491 root 1.387 %
4492 root 1.114 [the one and only time rcp failed for me, at the very end of the transfer]
4493     rcp: protocol screwup: mtime.sec not delimited
4494 root 1.387 %
4495 root 1.113 [Wasteland]
4496     Lester Moore,
4497     Shot in the head with a .44.
4498     No Les, no more.
4499 root 1.387 %
4500 root 1.113 [SSK@DFpkjvKWA0kGPZUgm9LkJE1jX4cPAgM/MattersPhallic/4//]
4501     Mormon advice on how to abstain from wanking
4502    
4503     STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION
4504     [for the rest of this entertaining document see the freesite]
4505 root 1.387 %
4506 root 1.113 [Fallout]
4507     Here lies the body of Jonathan Blake
4508     Stepped on the gas instead of the brake
4509 root 1.387 %
4510 root 1.111 [http://www.counterpane.com/pptpv2-paper.html]
4511     As we will discuss later, multiple layers of hashing are used in the
4512     different steps of MS-CHAPv2. While this hashing serves to obscure some
4513     of the values, it is unclear what the cryptographic significance of them
4514     are. All they seem to do is to slow down the execution of the protocol.
4515 root 1.112 [...]
4516     It is unclear to us why this protocol is so complicated.
4517     [...]
4518     The Server concatenates the password-hash-hash, the 24-byte NT response,
4519     and the literal string "Magic server to client constant", and then hashes
4520     the result with SHA.
4521 root 1.387 %
4522 root 1.388 > Für viele wird interessant sein, dass ich bisher bei jedem Kunden
4523 root 1.111 > rechnerisch nachweisen konnte, dass OpenSource !immer! der teurere Weg
4524     > ist!
4525 root 1.388 Das bedeutet, daß durch Offenlegung des Source Codes eines Produkts
4526     plötzlich höhere Aufwände entstehen? Was für ein Kundensegment betreust
4527 root 1.111 Du denn? Analphabeten?
4528 root 1.387 %
4529 root 1.388 "Der Sun-Forte-Compiler ist näher am C++-Standard als G++"
4530     [Jörg Schilling, CeBit 2003]
4531 root 1.387 %
4532 root 1.109 17:21 <elmex> ok, sex kann ich nicht, aber ich kann vim und Perl ;)
4533 root 1.387 %
4534 root 1.108 [Biggest ping rtt I've ever seen]
4535     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=473 ttl=128 time=779.5 ms
4536     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=474 ttl=128 time=524.1 ms
4537     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=475 ttl=128 time=275.6 ms
4538     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=539 ttl=128 time=656365.4 ms
4539     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=540 ttl=128 time=655365.5 ms
4540 root 1.387 %
4541 root 1.108 [I once used a vped.conf from windows on linux, and then had to:]
4542     tcpdump -eni\\\\.\\{F2CB3DC8-1
4543 root 1.387 %
4544 root 1.107 [links are free ;)]
4545     http://knowthetruth.b0x.com/Bush_Family/Bush_-_Hitler/bush_-_hitler.html
4546 root 1.387 %
4547 root 1.106 [http://pobox.com/~oleg/MacHack96/]
4548     Can software development be elevated from the Microsoft style?
4549 root 1.387 %
4550 root 1.105 [openssl, crypto/evp/evp_enc.c]
4551    
4552     /* One positive side-effect of US's export
4553     * control history, is that we should at least
4554     * be able to avoid using US mispellings of
4555     * "initialisation"? */
4556     EVPerr(EVP_F_EVP_CIPHERINIT, EVP_R_INITIALIZATION_ERROR);
4557 root 1.387 %
4558 root 1.105 [man pem]
4559     Although the PEM routines take several arguments in almost all applications most of them are set to 0 or NULL.
4560 root 1.387 %
4561 root 1.105 [pth_native.c]
4562    
4563     /* ``If you can't do it in
4564 root 1.247 ANSI C, it isn't worth doing.''
4565 root 1.105 -- Unknown */
4566 root 1.387 %
4567 root 1.104 [subculture]
4568 root 1.388 ... scorp sind lucker und use script lamer aber über cheater aufregen
4569     mehr nich und zu fünft in nem raum sitzen und dann public zocken und dann
4570 root 1.104 skillig vorkommen ...
4571    
4572     [http://forum.topwebmaster.net/extern/de/Ricoohh/thread/9196-77365]
4573 root 1.424 %
4574 root 1.104 [back to the roots. you might not understand the following, but
4575     this list is about things _I_ find funny, not you... :)]
4576 root 1.247 00:16 <elmex> 'mit windows netzwerk zu debuggen ist ungefaehr so sinnvoll wie eine
4577 root 1.104 gehirnoperation mit einem vorschlaghammer'
4578 root 1.247 00:18 <oesi> elmex: da ich in deinem ignore bin, kann ich ja volltrottel sagen.
4579 root 1.104 ethereal rennt seit jahren unter win32
4580     00:18 <elmex> oesi: ja, aber netzwerk nicht ;)
4581 root 1.387 %
4582 root 1.103 [http://home.rhein-zeitung.de/~cknust/detroit/a-z/medikamt.htm]
4583 root 1.388 ... Den Amerikanern sind Zäpfchen ebenso wie rektales Fiebermessen absolut
4584     suspekt; der Verdacht der Kinderschändung steht sofort unausgesprochen im
4585     Raum. Zäpfchen ("Suppositorium") werden allenfalls in der Notfallmedizin
4586 root 1.103 im Krankenhaus verwendet. Haben Sie ein Kind, das an Asthma oder
4587 root 1.388 Pseudo-Krupp-Anfällen leidet, bringen Sie sich einen entsprechenden Vorrat
4588     an Zäpfchen unbedingt mit, erwähnen Sie diese aber, soweit möglich, nicht
4589     vor amerikanischen Ärzten. ...
4590 root 1.387 %
4591 root 1.102 sendmail ist wie masturbation mit einer gurkenraspel, erzeugt viele spaene
4592     aber wenig freude.
4593 root 1.387 %
4594 root 1.102 [from a deviance.nfo, looking for new members, I think it's waaay funny]
4595     - you are a Unix guru with good Ansi-C software developing knowledge
4596     and understanding how to prevent network security vulnerabilities.
4597     That means you must be able to code to ansi-c guru level. And you
4598     must also have a good coder perspective of hostbase and network
4599     based intrusion detection systems. You should be able to code tools
4600     to generically prevent stack and heap buffer overflows on unix in
4601     Ansi-C. And Be able to code tools to look after a group of systems
4602     and code sniffing avoidance tools. And you can configure a system
4603     in ways to prevent packet sniffers and "man in the middle" attacks.
4604 root 1.387 %
4605 root 1.388 17:39 <schmorp> marco: flüge von hannover/dortmund [nach sofia] etc. sind glatt
4606     doppelt so teuer wie die gleichen von stuttgart/münchen/frankfurt
4607 root 1.101 17:39 <marco> schmorp: da wollen zu viele weg und zu wenig hin... also sind die
4608     fluege dort nur halb ausgelastet *g*
4609 root 1.387 %
4610 root 1.100 For me, this article simply illustrates that centralised trust models
4611     don't work well in practise.
4612     http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/12/09/021209opwinman.xml
4613 root 1.387 %
4614 root 1.99 [Rumsfeld in a CNN interview]
4615     There is an old saying, in the pentagon:
4616     "ready, fire, aim."
4617 root 1.387 %
4618 root 1.98 [...] You're allowed to resell the [windows] media but not the
4619     license. "Unfortunately" for Microsoft, this distinction is illegal in
4620     free countries like Germany [1].
4621     [...]
4622     Regards
4623     Henning
4624    
4625     [1] The current german governement is actively trying to change this
4626     part of the german law. That's what you get for electing morons who
4627     might look good on TV. At this point, we're already on U.S. levels.
4628 root 1.387 %
4629 root 1.98 [...]
4630     The GPL does not restrict you. Contrary, it uses copyright law to
4631     establish a pool of software with much more freedom as copyright law gives
4632     to you. It only does not give you so much freedom to deny other people the
4633     same freedoms. The copyright holders can only do so, because copyright law
4634     itself give you none of these rights at all.
4635     [...]
4636     Wolfgang Walter
4637 root 1.387 %
4638 root 1.98 burro: i once played against a computer
4639     burro: it seemed very clever
4640     burro: but then all its groups died in yose
4641     burro: it forgot to defend later..
4642     burro: oops
4643     burro: accidental poetry
4644 root 1.387 %
4645 root 1.98 [about a go game between a pro player and some really good amateur,
4646     where white could have lived easily but decided to risk it]
4647     yoyoma [7k]: white is pro, rather die gloriosly than live in gote with a7!
4648 root 1.387 %
4649 root 1.98 [from the default config of the oh-so-broken unrealircd]
4650     #define BIG_SECURITY_HOLE
4651 root 1.387 %
4652 root 1.98 "In fact the whole of Japan is pure invention. There is no such country, there are no such people."
4653     -- Oscar Wilde
4654 root 1.387 %
4655 root 1.98 [a principle used in florida's law]
4656     "guilty until proven innocent"
4657     [http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/main.htm]
4658 root 1.387 %
4659 root 1.98 Wonderful news! A little Jewish woman, calling Mount Sinai Hospital,
4660     said, "Hello, darling, I'd like to talk with the person who gives the
4661     information regarding your patients. I want to know if the patient is
4662     getting better, or doing like expected, or is getting worse." The voice
4663     on the other end of the line said, "What is the patient's name and room
4664     number?" She said, "Yes, darling! she's Sarah Finkel, in Room 302." He
4665     said, "Oh, yes. Mrs. Finkel is doing very well. In fact, she's had two
4666     full meals, her blood pressure is fine, her blood work just came back
4667     as normal, she's going to be taken off the heart monitor in a couple of
4668     hours and if she continues this improvement, Dr. Cohen is going to send
4669     her home Tuesday at twelve o' clock." The woman said, "Thank God! That's
4670     wonderful! Oh! that's fantastic, darling!... That's wonderful news!" The
4671     man on the phone said, "From your enthusiasm, I take it you must be a
4672     close family member or a very close friend!" She said, "I'm Sarah Finkel
4673     in 302! My doctor doesn't tell me shit!
4674 root 1.387 %
4675 root 1.98 [gcc-3.2/.../sstream>
4676     // NB: Start ostringstream buffers at 512 bytes. This is an
4677     // experimental value (pronounced "arbitrary" in some of the
4678     // hipper english-speaking countries), and can be changed to
4679     // suit particular needs.
4680     _M_buf_size_opt = 512;
4681 root 1.387 %
4682 root 1.98 [members.aon.at/paulinchen/advtex/sanitar.htm]
4683     [Walkthrough SANITARIUM]
4684     ... Deshalb suchst du erneut den Wassertempel auf. ... Dort haust du als
4685 root 1.388 Grimwall den Lukas ... Darauf hin öffnet der Clown seinen Mund und du
4686 root 1.98 kannst als Olmec die Melodie ...
4687 root 1.387 %
4688 root 1.97 [Onibaba - Great Movie]
4689     http://us.imdb.com/Title?0058430
4690 root 1.387 %
4691 root 1.97 [Kuroneko - I'd like to see :(]
4692     http://us.imdb.com/Title?0122136
4693 root 1.387 %
4694 root 1.96 [<Sesse> microsoft finally takes security seriously]
4695     [http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q276304]
4696     Error Message: Your Password Must Be at Least 18770 Characters and Cannot Repeat Any of Your Previous 30689 Passwords
4697 root 1.387 %
4698 root 1.96 GNU Emacs kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 11.300
4699     vi - Editor. Kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 2.333
4700 root 1.388 XML für Dummies. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 225.881
4701     JavaScript für Dummies. Dynamische Websites selbst gemacht. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 24.576
4702 root 1.387 %
4703 root 1.96 [http://kyushu.com/gleaner/editorspick/seppuku.shtml]
4704    
4705     [...] Obviously you have to decide well in advance why you are doing
4706     [seppuku] [...] Resistance, remonstrance, show of loyalty, affirmation of
4707     the correctness of one's own position, expiation of a crime and the wiping
4708     out of disgrace are all perfectly good reasons; being refused a work visa
4709     is not [...]
4710 root 1.387 %
4711 root 1.247 Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd
4712 root 1.95 all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
4713     repetitive electronic music." --Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
4714 root 1.387 %
4715 root 1.94 [some hilights from:]
4716     [http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/Fachbegriffe.der.Informatik.html]
4717    
4718 root 1.388 _Einfach erklärt_
4719 root 1.94
4720     GUI
4721     Ein Hintergrundbild und 12 Xterms
4722     Globale Variable
4723 root 1.388 Parameterübergabemechanismus in 4GLs
4724 root 1.94 objektorientiert
4725     Den Code habe ich von meinem Vorgaenger geerbt.
4726     strukturiert
4727     dieses Programm besteht aus mehreren Funktionen
4728     Multithreaded
4729 root 1.388 Wir mußten ein Flußdiagramm malen, um es zu debuggen.
4730 root 1.94 Windows 95
4731 root 1.388 Das Fortran 77 der Benutzungsoberflächen
4732 root 1.94 Emacs
4733 root 1.388 Ich habe ja auch nie bezweifelt, daß emacs ein tolles Betriebssystem
4734     ist. Aber um mit Linux oder Windows konkurrieren zu können, fehlt ihm
4735     ein vernünftiger Editor.
4736 root 1.94 IPv6
4737     $ telnet hundehalsband.georg.hunde.sonnenstrasse.muenchen.de
4738     Trying 942884947298374923847982472983. 2398749874987249247.
4739     2398472372349. 3249782374927898324. 2987238479874987398634.
4740     2987428901171209471. 23987432923. 23478987923.
4741 root 1.388 Die fünf Sinne des C++-Programmierers
4742     Der Schwachsinn, der Blödsinn, der Wahnsinn, der Unsinn und der Stumpfsinn.
4743 root 1.247 PHP
4744 root 1.388 Meine C-64-Basic-Übungen hat niemand zu Gesicht bekommen, während die
4745 root 1.94 in PHP verbrochenen Laufstall-Verunfallungen heutiger Milchgesichter
4746 root 1.388 die Welt verpesten und womöglich von Schlipstraeger-Deppen als
4747     e-Commerce-Lösung gekauft worden sind.
4748 root 1.247 Alleinstellungsmerkmal
4749 root 1.94 Bunt.
4750 root 1.388 Plattformunabhängig
4751     Wenn Du GWBASIC im Dos-Emulator laufen läßt bist Du auch
4752     plattformunabhängig! Du brauchst nur einen Dos-Emulator!
4753 root 1.95 [94: Copyright left out, too long, see original url]
4754 root 1.387 %
4755 root 1.93 [logic & fallacies]
4756     http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html
4757 root 1.387 %
4758 root 1.93 http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/library/wonderful/index.php
4759 root 1.387 %
4760 root 1.93 [nah]
4761     In the Arthur Penn film "Night Moves," someone asks Gene Hackman for an
4762     appraisal of Eric Rohmer's work, to which he replies, "it's like watching
4763     paint dry."
4764 root 1.387 %
4765 root 1.92 http://www2.psy.uq.edu.au/~jay/papers/thesis.pdf
4766     http://home.attbi.com/~bglodis/htmf/AI2-GO2.htm
4767     http://newyork.villageworld.com/users/bradleym/index.htm
4768 root 1.387 %
4769 root 1.178 [Keith Packard about some design holes in X that lead to XRender]
4770 root 1.91 The rules themselves may be broken, but their existence is of vital
4771     importance.
4772 root 1.387 %
4773 root 1.91 [http://cbbrowne.com/info/xpersonal.html]
4774     [_very_ good pages, read them all!]
4775     Many things have been hacked onto Win32; unfortunately, actually using
4776     Windows-based facilities has two massive detrimental effects:
4777    
4778     You have to trust Microsoft.
4779    
4780     There are a number of things that I would trust Microsoft with. I trust
4781     Microsoft to continue to release buggy software such as the Windows 98
4782     release that needed patches to survive to 1999, let alone 2000. I trust
4783     Microsoft to continue to release software that gets more bloated such
4784     that it requires as much memory as systems can support just to support
4785     useless chrome.
4786    
4787     But control over whether my code will continue to be usable next year
4788     whether due to technical or licensing changes is not one of the things
4789     I'd like to trust them with.
4790 root 1.93 [...]
4791 root 1.387 %
4792 root 1.91 [when choosing "About" from the mozilla menu]
4793     [now, which OS let's us enjoy similar error messages all the time? ;)]
4794     XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
4795     Location: jar:resource:///chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/global/about.xhtml
4796     Line Number 90, Column 15:
4797 root 1.247 <li>Copyright &copy; 1998-2002 by <a href="about:credits">Contributors</a> to
4798 root 1.91 --------------^
4799 root 1.387 %
4800 root 1.91 [from the kanon 10% english translation patch README]
4801     [http://haeleth.port5.com/]
4802     A Japanese effect not found in English is the wonderful verbless sentence,
4803     which I like so much that I've translated a few literally. I do know
4804     English grammar, I assure you.
4805 root 1.387 %
4806 root 1.91 Giant hornets regularly attack beehives. Typically, an attack begins when
4807     a single hornet captures a lone bee nearby the hive. After several of
4808     these perimeter skirmishes, one hornet leaves a marking pheromone at the
4809     hive's entrance. This pheromone attracts the other hornets, who arrive
4810     en masse and attack the beehive. The bees' stingers can't penetrate the
4811     hornets' armor, so it's a one-sided slaughter; something like 30,000 bees
4812     can be killed in a few hours by 30-40 hornets.
4813    
4814     Japanese honeybees, however, have evolved an interesting defensive
4815     strategy. When a hornet marks the hive's entrance, the bees guarding the
4816     entrance return to the hive and wait for the attacking hornets. This has
4817     the effect of luring the first attacking hornets into the hive, rather
4818     than allowing them to start their attack outside. Simultaneously, over
4819     1000 worker bees in the hive leave the combs and mass just inside the
4820     hive's entrance. When a hornet tries to enter the hive, the workers
4821     surround it, forming a ball of bodies, and cook it to death with their
4822     body heat. The bees also release a pheromone that draws ever more bees
4823     from the hive's interior to come to the entrance and defend the nest.
4824    
4825     This strategy must be perfect in order to be successful. If the bees fail
4826     in killing the first hornet attackers, then the hornet pheromone gets
4827     stronger, and more hornets arrive to reinforce their attack. By sheer
4828     numbers, the hornets can overpower the bees.
4829    
4830     Source: Bernd Heinrich, "The Thermal Warriors: Strategies of Insect
4831     Survival," Harvard University Press, 1996.
4832 root 1.387 %
4833 root 1.91 [http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/csrss-backspace-bug.html]
4834     [fixed in latest service packs, but still funny ;)]
4835     The following neat little program, when compiled and run, will completely
4836     crash XP (and any earlier version of NT) (when I ran it, XP rebooted). I
4837     don't recommend you really try this program, but if you do, save all your
4838     work etc first:
4839    
4840     #include <stdio.h>
4841    
4842     int main (void) {
4843     while (1)
4844     printf ("\t\t\b\b\b\b\b\b");
4845    
4846     return 0;
4847     }
4848 root 1.387 %
4849 root 1.91 [you might point your windows-using-friends to this page, it
4850     contains a lot of funny FUD ;)]
4851 root 1.90 http://www.hevanet.com/peace/microsoft.htm
4852 root 1.387 %
4853 root 1.90 [http://eros.cs.jhu.edu/~shap/NT-EAL4.html]
4854     Security experts have been saying for years that the the security of
4855     the Windows family of products is hopelessly inadequate. Now there is a
4856     rigorous government certification confirming this.
4857 root 1.387 %
4858 root 1.89 [mms_client after finishing the download]
4859     everything done. Thank you for downloading a media file containing
4860     proprietary and patentend technology.
4861 root 1.387 %
4862 root 1.88 I wouldn't want to win the Steven Spielberg Award - he is an amateur!
4863 root 1.388 -- Aki Kaurismäki
4864 root 1.387 %
4865 root 1.87 [http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/godel.html]
4866 root 1.388 "The Gödelian structure of the unity of levels of Reality associated
4867 root 1.87 with the logic of the included middle implies that it is impossible to
4868     construct a complete theory for describing the passage from one level to
4869     the other and, a fortiori, for describing the unity of levels of Reality."
4870 root 1.387 %
4871 root 1.388 1. Das von den Parteien eingeführte Listenwahlrecht verstößt gegen
4872     Art. 38, Abs. 1, Satz 1 Grundgesetz (GG): »Die Abgeordneten des Deutschen
4873 root 1.87 Bundestages werden in allgemeiner, unmittelbarer, freier, gleicher und
4874 root 1.388 geheimer Wahl gewählt.« Danach muß es dem Bürger möglich sein, seinen
4875     Abgeordneten unmittelbar zu wählen. Die Wahl von Parteienlisten ist also
4876 root 1.87 verfassungswidrig, nicht zuletzt deshalb, weil hierbei Kandidaten zum Zuge
4877 root 1.388 kommen, die der Listenwähler nicht wählen will.
4878 root 1.87
4879 root 1.388 2. Der Fraktionszwang verstößt ebenfalls gegen das Grundgesetz. Satz
4880     2 des Art. 38, Abs. 1, lautet nämlich: »Sie (die Abgeordneten) sind
4881     Vertreter des ganzen Volkes, an Aufträge und Weisungen nicht gebunden
4882     und nur ihrem Gewissen unterworfen.« Wenn Fraktionsvorsitzende den frei
4883     gewählten Abgeordneten einer Fraktionsdisziplin unterwerfen (und das noch
4884     unter Androhung von Sanktionen), erteilen sie Weisungen darüber, wie die
4885 root 1.87 Abgeordneten der Partei abzustimmen haben. Es handelt sich dann um eine
4886     Form fraktionsinternen imperativen Mandats.
4887    
4888 root 1.388 3. Die überbordende Staatsverschuldung (vor allem im Bund) verstößt gegen
4889     Art. 115 des GG. Darin heißt es in Abs. 1, Satz 2: »Die Einnahmen aus
4890     Krediten dürfen die Summe der im Haushaltsplan veranschlagten Ausgaben für
4891     Investitionen nicht überschreiten; Ausnahmen sind nur zulässig zur Abwehr
4892     einer Störung des gesamtwirtschaftlichen Gleichgewichts.« Unter Fachleuten
4893     besteht nicht der geringste Zweifel, daß das vorgeschriebene Kreditlimit
4894     (Höhe der »Ausgaben für Investitionen«) durch Haushaltstricks sträflich
4895     überschritten wurde. Die Folge: Im Jahre 2001 erreichte die Verschuldung
4896     der Gebietskörperschaften die unvorstellbare Höhe von 1.210 Mrd. Euro (im
4897     Bund: 700 Mrd. Euro); das sind 79 Prozent des jährlichen Volkseinkommens
4898 root 1.87 von 1.531 Mrd. Euro.
4899 root 1.387 %
4900 root 1.87 [just FMI (for my information)]
4901     http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7eflavell/charset/form-i18n.html
4902 root 1.387 %
4903 root 1.87 [perldoc perlboot]
4904     Typically, each @ISA has only one element (multiple elements means
4905     multiple inheritance and multiple headaches)
4906 root 1.387 %
4907 root 1.87 [I find that all this stallman-bashing is a sure sign that that
4908     "linux" thing will fail]
4909     In lists.linux.kernel.development, Larry McVoy wrote:
4910     [...]
4911 root 1.247 Richard Stallman started the free software foundation. He built the
4912 root 1.87 compiler, library and zillions of other tools that developers use on a day
4913     to day basis. He slept at the offices of MIT while he spent his time,
4914     effort and money building up the Free Software Foundation.
4915    
4916     Though many people differ with him on a wide variety of issues, he
4917     deserves respect from all because he has devoted twenty years of his
4918     life to the public good.
4919    
4920     You, on the other hand, develop and sell a proprietary software product.
4921     You convinced a large number of kernel developers (most importantly
4922     Linus himself) to use your proprietary product to develop free software,
4923     so that you could tell potential customers "Gee! Look how great my
4924     software is! It's used to develop the linux kernel!"
4925    
4926     You don't care about free software Larry. You're just glad that you have
4927     a poster child to display your effort. Want proof? Look at how you have
4928     treated numerous kernel developers when you found out that they worked
4929     on free software projects that could potentially compete with your
4930     software some day -- you revoke their "free" license to use your
4931     software to work on the linux kernel!
4932    
4933     Richard is trying to change the world into a better place. You, however,
4934     are trying to get rich, and you're using free software as a stepping
4935     stone to promote your proprietary software. Nothing wrong with getting
4936     rich of course -- I'd love to be rich too. But you certainly don't
4937     deserve to be lumped into the same group as RMS.
4938 root 1.387 %
4939 root 1.86 [perldoc perlreftut]
4940 root 1.247 What does line 4 do here?
4941     [...]
4942     This is Perl, so it does the exact right thing.
4943 root 1.387 %
4944 root 1.86 [perldoc perlreftut]
4945     Think of the President of the United States: a messy, inconvenient bag of
4946     blood and bones. But to talk about him, or to represent him in a computer
4947     program, all you need is the easy, convenient scalar string "George Bush".
4948 root 1.387 %
4949 root 1.86 [rise and fall of free software standards]
4950 root 1.247 * GNU Gettext and %expect
4951     GNU Gettext asserts 10 s/r conflicts, but there are 7. Now that
4952     Bison dies on incorrect %expectations, we fear there will be
4953     too many bug reports for Gettext, so _for the time being_, %expect
4954     does not trigger an error when the input file is named `plural.y'.
4955 root 1.387 %
4956 root 1.86 Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers.
4957     -- Leonard Brandwein
4958 root 1.387 %
4959 root 1.85 [11:57] <schmorp> email@wanadoo.fr
4960 root 1.247 [11:57] <schmorp> you know what wannados are?
4961     [11:58] <Arvoreen> the french pendant of aol users ??
4962     [11:58] <schmorp> nope
4963     [11:58] <Arvoreen> then no clue
4964     [11:58] <schmorp> "people who fail before they even try"
4965     [12:00] <Zeograd> wanadoo was actually named following this idea, *sigh*
4966     [12:00] <schmorp> not really, yes?
4967     [12:00] <Zeograd> yes
4968     [12:00] <schmorp> ;);)
4969     [12:03] <schmorp> that "yes" sounded really painful
4970     [12:03] <Zeograd> more than you could imagine :)
4971 root 1.387 %
4972 root 1.247 [11:37] <Arvoreen> Oui mon francais est un peu
4973     [11:38] <Zeograd> Arvoreen: not bad, it doesn't mean much but it sounds french :)
4974 root 1.387 %
4975 root 1.84 A Russian hacker was sentenced to three years in prison here in the
4976     United States for breaking computer crime laws here. It's an
4977     interesting story. He was in Russia at the time, and broke no laws in
4978     his country. However, the U.S. prosecution broke Russian laws to
4979     collect evidence against him. The judge agreed with the FBI's
4980     assertion that Russian law didn't apply to them. Isn't international
4981     jurisprudence fun?
4982     <http://in.tech.yahoo.com/021005/137/1w2bq.html>
4983 root 1.387 %
4984 root 1.247 [02:58] <Sesse> microsoft finally gets it:
4985     [02:58] <Sesse> Visual Basic .NET delivers the feature most requested by existing Visual Basic
4986     [02:58] <Sesse> developers--fewer bugs in the code they write.
4987 root 1.84 [...]
4988 root 1.247 [03:00] <Sesse> "VB programmers have finally found out they lack talent, and blame Microsoft" ;-)
4989 root 1.387 %
4990 root 1.84 [found at www.imdb.com]
4991     the trouble with the global village are all the global village idiots.
4992     - Paul Ginsparg.
4993 root 1.387 %
4994 root 1.84 prionbrain: A joke I just read: " A girl phoned me the other day and
4995     said, .. come on over, there's nobody home. I went over. There was nobody
4996     home.":))
4997     [erm...]
4998 root 1.387 %
4999 root 1.84 > described above, CONFIG_XBOX_SUPPORT will depend on CONFIG_PCI.
5000    
5001 root 1.247 Which seems fair enough. ISA bus X-box systems are suprisingly rare
5002 root 1.387 %
5003 root 1.247 [05:06] <elmex> windows has 2 left hands when it comes to being an OS
5004 root 1.387 %
5005 root 1.83 [http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/mml/mduerst/papers/PDF/IUC11-UTF-8.pdf]
5006    
5007     [...] In particular, the following behaviour proposed or observed in some
5008     implementations is not UTF-8 and should never be presented as such. First,
5009     UTF16 surrogate pairs could be encoded in UTF-8 as two sequences of 3
5010     bytes each (this behaviour is observed in some Java implementations).
5011 root 1.387 %
5012 root 1.83 .+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+''
5013     / \ / \ / \ / \ /
5014     .+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+'
5015 root 1.387 %
5016 root 1.82 From: "David S. Miller"
5017 root 1.83
5018     > Then shouldn't the thing thats different from the norm be programmed into a header file which contains how certain functions should be+++
5019 root 1.82
5020     If I gave you a dollar, would you go out and buy some newlines
5021     to use in future emails?
5022 root 1.387 %
5023 root 1.82 Could somebody drag the Irix team kicking and screaming into the 1980's,
5024     please?
5025    
5026     I realize it might be quite painful for them, but maybe you could buy them
5027     a disco tape, so they'd feel a little bit more at home.
5028    
5029 root 1.247 Linus "Stayin' alive, stayin' alive" Torvalds
5030 root 1.387 %
5031 root 1.82 Yesterday, the local Brazilian authorities signed a decree stating that the
5032     Brazilian daylight saving period will start on November 3rd 2002 and will
5033     last until February 16th 2003.
5034    
5035     So, clocks will be set one hour forward on November 3rd (12:00 a.m. will be
5036     changed to 1:00 a.m.) and at midnight (0:00 am) on February 16th, Brazil
5037     will adjust its clocks back one hour (23:00 pm on Feb 15th) marking the
5038     end.
5039    
5040     The reason for the delay this year has to do with elections in Brazil.
5041    
5042     Unlike in the United States, elections in Brazil are 100% computerized and
5043     the results are known almost immediately. Yesterday, it was the first
5044     round of the elections when 115 million Brazilians voted for President,
5045     Governor, Senators, Federal Deputies, and State Deputies. Nobody is
5046     counting (or re-counting) votes anymore and we know there will be a second
5047     round for the Presidency and also for some Governors. The 2nd round will
5048     take place on October 27th.
5049    
5050     The reason why the DST will only begin November 3rd is that the thousands
5051     of electoral machines used cannot have their time changed, and since the
5052     Constitution says the elections must begin at 8:00 AM and end at 5:00 PM ,
5053     the Government decided to postpone DST, instead of changing the
5054     Constitution (maybe, for the next elections, it will be possible to change
5055     the clock)...
5056 root 1.387 %
5057 root 1.81 [boycot your enemies]
5058     > We're a business. We're a business which happens to be committed to
5059     > helping the kernel team because we think that the kernel is vital to the
5060     > world at large. Helping the kernel absolutely does not translate to
5061     > helping people who happen to be our competitors. By your own
5062    
5063     Stop lying. Your job is to make lots of money and you are using Linux as
5064     cheap advertising. You are trying to make people pay *you* to do kernel
5065     development (as it stands you want $5000 for any bk-using developer inside
5066     RedHat and SuSE).
5067    
5068     I hope your company dies ASAP and bitkeeper stops poisoning air here.
5069    
5070     Pavel
5071 root 1.387 %
5072 root 1.81 Rik
5073 root 1.247 --
5074 root 1.81 A: No.
5075     Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?
5076 root 1.387 %
5077 root 1.81 > Incidently unlimited permission is granted to use disks containing only
5078 root 1.247 > GNU/Linux software as footballs without royalties. All other usage of
5079     > disks as footballs will be considered on a per case basis.
5080 root 1.81
5081     I would be inclined to allow this for Windows drives instead. They contain
5082     no useful data.
5083    
5084 root 1.247 --
5085 root 1.81 bill davidsen
5086 root 1.387 %
5087 root 1.80 In the switching software (written in C)
5088     there was a long do..while construct,
5089     which contained a switch statement,
5090     which contained an if clause,
5091     which contained a break,
5092     which was intended for the if clause,
5093     but instead broke from the switch statement.
5094    
5095     - Network message explaining the breakdown of the AT&T long-distance
5096     network January 15, 1990
5097 root 1.387 %
5098 root 1.80 [From "password retrieval policies" of some irc network:]
5099    
5100 root 1.247 They are likely to continue asking for the password, even after you have
5101     told them that it has been E-Mailed. /Ignore the stupid user. /Kick the
5102     stupid user. Do not /Kill the stupid user, since being stupid is not a
5103     violation of network policies.
5104 root 1.80
5105     [the same document, explaining K:Lines]
5106    
5107     K:Lines - These lines define which clients are not allowed to connect.
5108     The format is as follows:
5109    
5110     K:*.aol.com:AOL sucks:lamer
5111 root 1.387 %
5112 root 1.79 [Microsoft's Craig Mundie on security.]
5113     "People confuse 'security' and Trustworthy Computing."
5114     http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/features/2002/feb02/02-20mundieqa.asp
5115 root 1.387 %
5116 root 1.79 http://staging.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/09/05/020905hnmssecure.xml
5117     "I'm not proud," [Brian] Valentine [senior vice president in charge of
5118     Microsoft's Windows development team] said, as he spoke to a crowd of
5119     developers here at the company's Windows .Net Server developer
5120     conference. "We really haven't done everything we could to protect our
5121     customers ... Our products just aren't engineered for security."
5122     ...
5123     "If you go back a few years, unless you were working on login at
5124     Microsoft, you really didn't worry about security. The risk wasn't worth
5125     the effort."
5126 root 1.387 %
5127 root 1.79 http://www.satirewire.com/news/aug02/encryption.shtml
5128 root 1.387 %
5129 root 1.79 [please bear with me and understand that I didn't intend to drive
5130     gay people mad at me with this one...]
5131 root 1.78 [10:16] <pixelpapst> Wenn man ihn mal mit so 'nem richtigen Bilderbuch-Schwulen wie
5132 root 1.247 Lukas vergleicht :)
5133     [10:16] <elmex> Lukas is net schwul, er is Consultant
5134 root 1.387 %
5135 root 1.76 http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/tenseg1.html
5136 root 1.387 %
5137 root 1.76 http://24.86.132.253/090101/feature/feature.htm
5138 root 1.387 %
5139 root 1.76 I maintain a /bin/ps that supports BSD, SysV, and Gnu syntax all at the
5140     same time. It requires Linux. This one works; the Red Hat one is broken.
5141     [Albert Cahalan]
5142 root 1.387 %
5143 root 1.75 The Berkeley shell csh is reasonably well known and widely used and its
5144     externals have been subject to some criticism. The internals of csh are at
5145     least as bad, but lesser known.
5146 root 1.387 %
5147 root 1.75 There are billions of different ways of parsing argv, the list of command
5148     line arguments passed to a C program. The problem is that they are all
5149     different.
5150 root 1.387 %
5151 root 1.75 A common disease in programs written at Berkeley is to open /dev/kmem and grub the load averages out by the dirtiest means possible.
5152 root 1.387 %
5153 root 1.76 [no, I still don't like bondage & discipline]
5154     http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/~geldridg/eiffel/liberty/meyer-bertrand/java/bm-2nd.html
5155 root 1.387 %
5156 root 1.74 [about the early CD-R dyes]
5157     The early, immature media caused some interesting problems. A certain
5158     popular Technics CD player, often used in radio stations, had a bad habit
5159     of accepting the early media, but refusing to eject it, causing much
5160     consternation to disc jockeys who were left without a player and possibly
5161     without a show.
5162 root 1.387 %
5163 root 1.76 [more of a timestamp]
5164 root 1.73 "SANS, SOUCI"
5165 root 1.387 %
5166 root 1.72 http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/canthappen.html
5167 root 1.387 %
5168 root 1.71 The Ten Commandments for C Programmers
5169     http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/commandments.html
5170 root 1.387 %
5171 root 1.71 [Bruce Schneier]
5172     A bill introduced into Congress gives copyright holders -- that's the RIAA,
5173     the MPAA, and similar guys -- the right to break into people's computers if
5174 root 1.247 they have a reasonable basis to believe that copyright infringement is
5175 root 1.71 going on.
5176     [...]
5177 root 1.247 People they choose to target would be deemed guilty until proven
5178     otherwise. In short, this bill would set up the entertainment industry
5179     as a Gestapo-like enforcement agency with no oversight.
5180 root 1.387 %
5181 root 1.70 [06:20] <Draxxon> BTW, (being from the USA) If pro is the grammatical
5182     opposite of con, then the opposite of "progress" would be... "Congress"???
5183 root 1.387 %
5184 root 1.247 You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
5185 root 1.387 %
5186 root 1.69 http://www29.compaq.com/falco/detail.asp?FAQnum=FAQ2859
5187 root 1.387 %
5188 root 1.69 [practical go humor]
5189     Lantu: ok any suggestions for good practical jokes to play on Pro's? :]
5190     id: Make a line of five stones, yell "Pente", and *insist* you've won.
5191 root 1.387 %
5192 root 1.68 [windows API rocks]
5193     The FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS enumeration type defines values that are used with
5194     the FindFirstFileEx function to specify the information level of the
5195     returned data.
5196    
5197 root 1.247 typedef enum _FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS {
5198     FindExInfoStandard
5199     } FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS ;
5200 root 1.387 %
5201 root 1.388 [Arvoreen philosophiert über die Verkleinerung von GNOME mit strip]
5202 root 1.67 [05:10] <Arvoreen> 153MB gestripped und vorher 541MB
5203     [05:13] <Arvoreen> oder wie der Wirtschaftswissenschaftler sagen wuerde um 354%
5204 root 1.247 kleiner ;-)))))) (die haben ja die prozente oberhalb von 100 erfunden)
5205 root 1.387 %
5206 root 1.66 [Microsoft documents how file types are detected in IE. No wonder
5207     it doesn't work:]
5208     1. If the "suggested" (server-provided) MIME type is unknown (not
5209     known and not ambiguous), FindMimeFromData immediately returns
5210     this MIME type as the final determination.
5211 root 1.387 %
5212 root 1.65 [freshmeat. And this release even adds ANOTHER codepage. I am impressed]
5213    
5214     Recode 0.1.1
5215     by Eugene V. Chernyshev - Friday, June 28th 2002 01:58 EDT
5216    
5217     About: Recode is a fast Russian codepage translator. It translates between
5218     three different codepages: DOS 866, Windows CP-1251, and UNIX KOI8-R.
5219    
5220     Changes: This release adds an ISO-8859-5 codepage.
5221 root 1.387 %
5222 root 1.65 http://www.tmk.com/ftp/humor/computer-error-messages.txt
5223 root 1.387 %
5224 root 1.64 $S=eval'sub{eval"sub{%S}"}';$S->({});
5225 root 1.387 %
5226 root 1.64 [From CRYPTO-GRAM]
5227    
5228     Microsoft's "Trustworthy Computing" initiative seems to be
5229     just a scam so the company can avoid antitrust remedies by
5230     claiming that opening their systems is a security risk. Pity.
5231     <http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s=701%26a=26605,00.asp>
5232     <http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D701%2526a%253D26875,00.asp>
5233     A comment on Slashdot sums it up best: "Microsoft has therefore taken
5234     the position that their code is so bad that it must be kept secret to
5235     keep people from being killed by it. Windows -- the Pinto of the 21st
5236     century."
5237    
5238     Most interesting of the two articles above is the second eWeek article,
5239     where Microsoft's Allchin mentions "at least one protocol and two APIs
5240     that it plans to withhold from public disclosure under the security
5241     carve-out." The protocol is Message Queuing. Apparently, Microsoft
5242     has discovered a security flaw in the Message Queuing protocol so bad
5243     that can't be fixed without breaking existing applications. So, until
5244     such time as they can field a backwards-compatible fix, they're going
5245     to hope no one else discovers it. (This is not a wholly unreasonable
5246     decision; security researchers have made the same decision in the
5247     past.) Of course, Allchin has undermined this decision by publicly
5248     naming the protocol. That's more than enough for someone sufficiently
5249     motivated to find the flaw. In the classified world, you can get your
5250     clearance pulled for blabbing like that. Jim Allchin's testimony:
5251     <http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/trial/mswitness/2002/allchin.asp>
5252    
5253     At the same time, Microsoft tries to convince the Pentagon that open source
5254     software threatens security, and using proprietary Microsoft software is
5255     much safer (and better for the economy, to boot). This article is
5256     hilarious in light of the above.
5257     <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60050-2002May22.html>
5258    
5259     A report on something called a Tactical Web Page, which purports to be a
5260     secret combat Web site, through which American commanders in the United
5261     States can direct troops in Afghanistan. My favorite quote: "'There have
5262     been a few instances when unidentified computers have tried to get in, in
5263     which case we throw up additional firewalls,' Lt. Col. Bryan Dyer
5264     said." Is it just me, or does Lt. Col. Dyer come from I-Don't-Get-It Land?
5265     <http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,52861,00.html>
5266    
5267     Yet more comments from the clueless. In response to the report that
5268     someone hacked into Experian's database and stole 13,000 credit-card
5269     numbers, a PR flack said: "Our files are protected by state-of-the-art,
5270     Star Wars-style security and encryption technology."
5271 root 1.65 <http://www.lendingintelligence.com/news.ez?viewStory=1123&Form.sess_id=845521234&Form.sess_key=1022430845>
5272 root 1.387 %
5273 root 1.64 http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,52901,00.html
5274 root 1.387 %
5275 root 1.388 ich: ich hätte gerne ein nummernschild in unna: "un-ix 123"
5276     zotan: sei froh, daß du nicht in wiesbaden wohnst: "wi-n 95"
5277 root 1.387 %
5278 root 1.63 "There are two ways of constructing a piece of software: One is to make it
5279     so simple that there are obviously no errors, and the other is to make it
5280     so complicated that there are no obvious errors."
5281    
5282     Tony Hoare
5283 root 1.387 %
5284 root 1.388 Nach dem Gesetz über Einheiten im Meßwesen vom 2. Juli 1969 in der Fassung
5285     vom 22. Februar 1985 dürfte Word im geschäftlichen und amtlichen Verkehr
5286 root 1.63 _nicht_ eingesetzt werden, da es mit dem Punkt eine nicht-SI-konforme
5287 root 1.388 Maßeinheit verwendet.
5288 root 1.387 %
5289 root 1.63 From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5290    
5291     [...]
5292     The Nforce is basically completely unsupported by 2.2. It is mostly unsupported
5293     by 2.4. The networking built into the chipset is not supported by either
5294     system. Basically its windows computer
5295 root 1.387 %
5296 root 1.63 [go figure...]
5297 root 1.247 <JanMan> read(3, 0x8102cc8, 32768) = -1 ESRCH (No such process)
5298 root 1.387 %
5299 root 1.63 Subject: Re: Off topic: Solaris 9 announced, a lot of Linux incorporated
5300    
5301     > In today's world of heterogeneous computing, compatibility leads
5302     > to efficiency. Combining the Linux community with thousands of
5303     > Solaris software developers and nearly three million Java and XML
5304     > software developers...
5305    
5306     Homeopathic approach to software development?
5307 root 1.387 %
5308 root 1.63 > > Patch is severely broken in its current form, not only for the
5309     > > reasons you stated, but also because of its inability to handle
5310     > > renaming in any sane way. I want a patch --sane option.
5311     >
5312     > I bet BitKeeper gets it right... ;-) ;-) ;-)
5313    
5314     Funny you should mention that, since Bitkeeper has embarrassed itself pretty
5315     badly with respect to patches, so far.
5316    
5317     - Somebody decided to add another level on top of the linux root directory
5318     in their source directory. I can't import patches into that.
5319    
5320     - I can apply patches to bitkeeper repository using the normal 'patch',
5321     but Bitkeeper gets its revenge later, as each bk edit command starts
5322     off by throwing away the patch.
5323    
5324     Given the hype, I expected more. I want a tool to save work for me, not
5325     create new work. I don't think I'll be using Bitkeeper as a substitute for
5326     patch any time soon.
5327    
5328     --
5329     Daniel
5330 root 1.387 %
5331 root 1.62 From: "Miquel van Smoorenburg" <miquels@cistron.nl>
5332     Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 23:18:34 +0000 (UTC)
5333     [...]
5334     Bummer, I'm using Debian, and iostat is in woody (frozen, about to
5335     be released) - that means Debian users will have to wait to the
5336     next release, another two years perhaps, before iostat gets working.
5337 root 1.387 %
5338 root 1.62 [no comments ;)]
5339    
5340     I've installed kernel 2.5.15 (should include aio support) an libaio (0.3.7).
5341     It seams that libaio.so depends on libredhat-kernel.so.1. Why?
5342     Is it realy needed?
5343 root 1.387 %
5344 root 1.62 [W. Richard Stevens about the 3.2 streams "poll" function:]
5345    
5346     int poll(struct pollfd *fdarray, unsigned long nfds, int timeout);
5347    
5348     [...] The number of elements in the array of structures [...] is
5349     specified by the nfds argument. (Why this argument is specified as
5350     an unsigned long integer, and not a simple integer, is perplexing.)
5351 root 1.387 %
5352 root 1.62 [www.intel.com]
5353     Over 70 Internet Streaming Single Instruction Multiple Data (SIMD)
5354     extensions enhance streaming multimedia and graphics applications, both on
5355     the hard drive and over the Internet. With SIMD, audio and video
5356     download faster, with clearer sound quality, deeper color and resolution,
5357     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
5358     and enlarged images with smoother frame rates.
5359 root 1.387 %
5360 root 1.61 From: Alexander Viro
5361    
5362     On Thu, 9 May 2002, Tomas Szepe wrote:
5363     > > I did quite a bit of this work for CML2 - bus dependencies can be
5364     > > found in the CML2 sources.
5365     >
5366     > Btw, what happened to CML2?
5367    
5368     This is an ex-parrot
5369 root 1.387 %
5370 root 1.61 From: David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>
5371    
5372     > > It doesn't have to be an O(n lg(n)) method but could you use something
5373     > > besides bubblesort? Insertion sort, selection sort, etc. are just as
5374     > > easy and they don't have the horrific stigma of being "the worst sorting
5375     > > algorithm ever" etc.
5376     >
5377     > Surely the worst (working) sort is randomsort? (Check if sorted. If not,
5378     > pick two entries at random, exchange, retry.)
5379    
5380     I've always been a fan of bit-decay sort.
5381    
5382     while (!sorted(data))
5383     ;
5384 root 1.387 %
5385 root 1.61 Subject: Re: Bitkeeper licence issues
5386     From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5387    
5388     > This should be a reflex for someone with such a Sun heritage like you...
5389    
5390     You obviously never used SunOS4. Its a bit before security became relevant
5391     to computing
5392 root 1.387 %
5393 root 1.61 From: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
5394    
5395     On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:05:39 -0500, joeja@mindspring.com wrote:
5396     >What limits the number of threads one can have on a Linux system?
5397    
5398     Common sense, one would hope.
5399 root 1.387 %
5400 root 1.61 From: Toon Moene
5401     [...]
5402    
5403     Obviously, the only way I could support this effort is by rewriting the
5404     backend to use FORTRAN; that way it would finally be possible to
5405     translate the Linux kernel into FORTRAN and vindicate this:
5406    
5407     http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/chist.html
5408    
5409     "Challenged by McIlroy's feat in reproducing TMG, Thompson decided that
5410     Unix - possibly it had not even been named yet - needed a system
5411     programming language. After a rapidly scuttled attempt at Fortran, he
5412     created instead a language of his own, which he called B"
5413    
5414     :-)
5415 root 1.387 %
5416 root 1.247 "... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that,
5417     lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of
5418     their C programs."
5419 root 1.60
5420     Robert Firth
5421 root 1.387 %
5422 root 1.59 [miri@ccc.de]
5423 root 1.388 Moooooment, das sind zwei Sachen die miteinander zusammenhängen...
5424 root 1.59 [and after some quarrel...]
5425     Ich lasse mich ungern zitieren!
5426 root 1.387 %
5427 root 1.68 [Klaus Knopper, and no, I don't think this, to the contrary :(]
5428 root 1.388 Ich bin Marc Lehmann begegnet, und seitdem glaube ich, er hält mich für blöd.
5429 root 1.387 %
5430 root 1.57 [Content-Type used by Microsoft for .exe files]
5431     Content-Type: application/x-msdownload
5432 root 1.387 %
5433 root 1.68 [from windows' wininet.h]
5434 root 1.56 #define ERROR_INTERNET_INSERT_CDROM (INTERNET_ERROR_BASE + 53)
5435 root 1.387 %
5436 root 1.388 Für die Erkenntnis, dass Perl produktivitätssteigernd wirkt, kämpfe ich hier
5437 root 1.56 in meinem Laden allerdings noch. Interessanterweise sind die Leute, die
5438     selber programmieren, mittlerweile fast alle auf meiner Seite; die Leute,
5439 root 1.388 dir organisieren und selber gar nicht programmieren können, halten Perl für
5440     eine Art Spielzeug, oder für ein Quick-and-Dirty-Tool, das man bei
5441 root 1.56 erstbester Gelegenheit durch etwas professionelles ersetzen muss (was
5442     vermutlich von Microsoft stammt).
5443    
5444     Aber ich arbeite weiter dran...
5445    
5446     \Gisbert
5447 root 1.387 %
5448 root 1.55 http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
5449 root 1.387 %
5450 root 1.55 P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the
5451     world like English did. Er, *as* English did...
5452     --Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393@wall.org>
5453 root 1.387 %
5454 root 1.54 From: Felix von Leitner <usenet-20020216@fefe.de>
5455     Subject: Re: Disgusted with kbuild developers
5456    
5457     I don't have python. Any version of python.
5458     [...]
5459 root 1.387 %
5460 root 1.54 [perldoc Test::Harness]
5461     Additional comments may be put into the testing output on their own lines.
5462     Comment lines should begin with a '#', Test::Harness will ignore them.
5463    
5464     ok 1
5465     # Life is good, the sun is shining, RAM is cheap.
5466     not ok 2
5467     # got 'Bush' expected 'Gore'
5468 root 1.387 %
5469 root 1.54 I specialize in storage, and C is self taught.
5470    
5471     Cheers,
5472    
5473     Andre Hedrick
5474     Linux Disk Certification Project Linux ATA Development
5475 root 1.387 %
5476 root 1.54 > > The new lock uses a combination of a spinlock and a (mutex-)semaphore.
5477 root 1.247 >
5478 root 1.54 > Spinaphore :-)
5479    
5480     Or mutabloat :-(
5481 root 1.387 %
5482 root 1.54 Microsoft Outlook *IS* the problem. Blaming it *IS* correct. Removing
5483     Outlook *IS* the solution.
5484 root 1.387 %
5485 root 1.54 Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
5486 root 1.387 %
5487 root 1.53 From: Ricky Beam
5488    
5489     Yep. I still laugh at those who say "bandwidth is free." They've obviously
5490     never bought anything from UUNet.
5491 root 1.387 %
5492 root 1.53 deconstructionism -- (a philosophical theory of criticism ...
5493     that seeks to expose deep-seated contradictions in a work
5494     by delving below its surface meaning)
5495 root 1.387 %
5496 root 1.52 http://brics.dk/~cw97/ProceedingS/01.ps.gz
5497 root 1.387 %
5498 root 1.52 From: Alan Cox
5499    
5500     > and hire all the lawyers they'd want...at the end of the day, could you
5501     > just go to court and say:
5502    
5503     Oh glorious naivety.
5504    
5505     > The law seems pretty damn clear on this issue (in fact Subsection 3.c
5506     > sounds like I could quite happily send it to someone in the USA if they
5507     > can do the work better than I).
5508    
5509     You release the code
5510    
5511     The next day an injunction arrives in the post
5512    
5513     The day after that the large corporate lawyers slap a secrecy order on you
5514     preventing you discussing the case with anyone but your legal representative
5515     by convincing some pissed geriatric moron in the high court that if he
5516     doesnt sign it you'll tell the whole world and harm them irrepairably
5517    
5518     Over the next week 10-15,000 pages of documents arrive for you, followed
5519     by a couple of thousand discovery requests.
5520    
5521     A week later while you are reading them they file for summary judgement
5522     because you have failed to file the defence. You lose. Game over
5523    
5524     Then the court costs bankrupt you.
5525    
5526     Sound like fiction - it happens _regularly_. Its very rare (McLibel case
5527     is extremely unusual) that it can ever be talked about on a per case basis,
5528     or that the good guys win.
5529    
5530     This is why everyone doing innovative computing work does it outside of the
5531     US, and outside of most of the EU.
5532 root 1.387 %
5533 root 1.51 From: Alan Cox
5534    
5535     [...]
5536     I would not perform such work in the united kingdom. Perform it in a free
5537     country. Reverse engineering that might offend a large corporation in the UK
5538 root 1.247 is only viable if you have five million pounds to hand, a law firm and a
5539 root 1.51 year to kill.
5540 root 1.387 %
5541 root 1.51 [CRYPTO-GRAM, January 2002]
5542     Windows UPnP Vulnerability
5543    
5544     [...]
5545     Here's a quote from Scott Culp, manager of Microsoft's security response
5546     center: "This is the first network-based, remote compromise that I'm aware
5547     of for Windows desktop systems."
5548     [...]
5549     eEye Digital Security told Microsoft about this vulnerability nearly two
5550     months before Microsoft released its patch.
5551     [...]
5552     UPnP is a complex set of protocols to support ad hoc peer-to-peer
5553     networking. Even though no one uses it, it's installed in a bunch of
5554     Microsoft OSs. Even though no one needs it turned on, sometimes it's
5555     turned on by default.
5556     [...]
5557     The industry analysts at Gartner issued a warning, urging companies to
5558     delay upgrading to Windows XP for "three to six months," lest more of
5559     these kind of vulnerabilities surface.
5560     [...]
5561     Honestly, security experts don't pick on Microsoft because we have some
5562     fundamental dislike for the company. Indeed, Microsoft's poor products
5563     are one of the reasons we're in business. We pick on them because they've
5564     done more to harm Internet security than anyone else, because they
5565     repeatedly lie to the public about their products' security, and because
5566     they do everything they can to convince people that the problems lie
5567     anywhere but inside Microsoft. Microsoft treats security vulnerabilities
5568     as public relations problems. Until that changes, expect more of this
5569     kind of nonsense from Microsoft and its products.
5570 root 1.387 %
5571 root 1.50 http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2102244,00.html
5572 root 1.387 %
5573 root 1.49 [following links in 2002, http://www.myguestbook.de/book.asp?id=1510]
5574 root 1.388 Der Gästebuchservice wurde aufgrund
5575 root 1.49
5576     technischer Schwierigkeiten eingestellt.
5577    
5578     Monday, 06. November 2000
5579 root 1.387 %
5580 root 1.247 [01:42] <reeler> 22:57 < JanMan> elmex: du stoerst, aber das verstehst du nicht.
5581     [01:42] <reeler> #schmorp , de , Thu Jan 10 00:34:42 2002
5582 root 1.387 %
5583 root 1.90 [http://davesource.com/Projects/DEStiny/x.c.html as found by google]
5584 root 1.48 * If you are outside of the United States, then you do not have
5585     * the legal right to export/download/view this program.
5586     [too late, I broke the law, again!]
5587 root 1.387 %
5588 root 1.47 Our standards say that a compiler crash, for any input whatsoever, no
5589     matter how invalid (even if you feed in line noise), is a bug. Other than
5590     that we shouldn't make promises, though the old gcc1 behavior of trying to
5591     launch a game of rogue or hack when encountering a #pragma was cute.
5592 root 1.387 %
5593 root 1.47 > Of course, that "other operating system" does not require you to
5594     > manually mount CD-ROMs at all.
5595    
5596     Nor does Linux if you set it up right. Its a case of making proper use of
5597     existing interfaces and a bit of userspace magic. And all done without the
5598     student fun of leaving "format/u c:" autostart cd-r's around labelled "porn"
5599 root 1.387 %
5600 root 1.47 From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5601     X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6]
5602    
5603     > It never shows up in the maintainer's inbox, leaving them more time to
5604     > address the remainder. And fewer of the increasingly bitter complaints of
5605     > dropped patches.
5606    
5607     Most mangled diffs I get are caused by pine. Fixing pine would do more
5608 root 1.247 wonders than any magical patchbot. I also get patches and changes from
5609 root 1.47 people who quite genuinely either can't mail me unmangled diffs (eg the
5610     lotus corporate mail policy afflicted) or are from people who may really
5611     know their stuff and even be the vendor but are not familiar with the
5612     patch/diff tools. A robot isn't going to teach them.
5613 root 1.387 %
5614 root 1.46 I remind you: ORACLE 9i is requiring half a gig as a minimum just due to
5615     the use of the CRAPPY PIECE OF SHIT written in the Java, called, you guess
5616     it: Just the bloody damn Installer.
5617 root 1.387 %
5618 root 1.45 From: "David S. Miller"
5619    
5620     From: Bill Huey
5621     Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:16:31 -0800
5622    
5623     Like the Java folks ? few and far between ?
5624    
5625     Precisely, in fact. Anyone who can say that Java is going to be
5626 root 1.247 relevant in a few years time, with a straight face, is only kidding
5627 root 1.45 themselves.
5628    
5629     Java is not something to justify a new kernel feature, that is for
5630     certain.
5631 root 1.387 %
5632 root 1.45 > required DaveM made it unconditional... I think the checkin comment was
5633     > something along the lines of "make it unconditional unless Alan
5634     > complains about kernel bloat" :)
5635    
5636     And I did complain. "Red Hat needs XYZ so we make it mandatory" is not an
5637     appropriate approach to a problem.
5638 root 1.387 %
5639 root 1.388 From: Pekka Pietikäinen <pp@netppl.fi>
5640 root 1.44 ^^^^
5641     [...]
5642     Blah, Celsius is obviously more natural:
5643     [...]
5644     -20 Long underwear is a good idea
5645     -15 Nice winter day
5646     -10 Slightly warm winter day
5647     -5 Nice warm winter day
5648     0 Slippery as hell outside, beware!
5649 root 1.387 %
5650 root 1.44 No, the US never went metric. That's why $200M Mars probes crash on
5651     entry due to some idiot using English units as opposed to the NASA standard
5652     of Metrics. The funny thing is that Thomas Jefferson, an American President,
5653     suggested the Metric system to the French while he was ambassador there.
5654 root 1.387 %
5655 root 1.44 On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 05:24:33PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
5656     > select/poll is a win - and Java recently discovered poll/select semantics 8)
5657    
5658     Anything is a win over Java's threading model.
5659    
5660     -ben
5661 root 1.387 %
5662 root 1.43 [...]
5663 root 1.247 [11:55] <|Pixel|> no, not spanish :)
5664     [11:55] <|Pixel|> and I'm closer to germany than spania
5665     [11:55] <|Pixel|> so I think I'll soon get luxembourg, german or belgian euros
5666     [11:55] <JanMan> I'm closer to toulouse than to china
5667     [11:56] <schmorp> i am closer to france than to janman
5668     [11:56] <|Pixel|> err
5669     [11:56] <|Pixel|> well :)
5670     [11:57] <schmorp> (but the french people near the border don't call themselves "french" ;)
5671     [11:57] <|Pixel|> ho yes but I live just below 'em
5672     [11:57] <schmorp> ;->
5673     [11:57] <|Pixel|> I'm from moselle. I'm not alsacian
5674 root 1.387 %
5675 root 1.388 Rob Bos hat das Problem über den Apache Webserver schließlich auf
5676     debian-devel zur Sprache gebracht. Dessen Lizenz besagt, daß die
5677 root 1.43 Namen "Apache Server" und "Apache Group" ohne vorherige schriftliche
5678 root 1.388 Zustimmung nicht dazu verwendet werden dürfen, um ein Produkt zu
5679     unterstützen oder zu bewerben, das von dieser Software abgeleitet
5680     wurde. Debian modifiziert jedoch verschiedene Dateien, so daß das
5681     Debian-Paket unter Umständen als abgeleitete Arbeit bezeichnet werden
5682     könnte. Eine ähnliche Diskussion wurde vor ungefähr 8 Monaten auf
5683     debian-legal geführt. Die Diskussion ist ziemlich sinnlos, aber sie fand
5684 root 1.43 statt...
5685 root 1.387 %
5686 root 1.42 http://www.oreilly.com/ask_tim/unix_editor.html
5687 root 1.387 %
5688 root 1.42 [From CRYPTO-GRAM, 2001-12-15]
5689     Norton SystemWorks 2002 includes a file erasure program called Wipe Info.
5690     In the manual (page 160), we learn that "Wipe Info uses hexadecimal values
5691     to wipe files. This provides more security than wiping with decimal
5692     values." Who writes this stuff?
5693 root 1.387 %
5694 root 1.42 http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html#security
5695 root 1.387 %
5696 root 1.41 > I have also changed "Macao" to "Macau". Why? :-)
5697     > 1. Macau is the official name (in both English and Portuguese).
5698     > See www.macau.gov.mo, for example.
5699     > 2. On recent trips to Macau, I can no longer find any signs that say
5700     > "Macao".
5701     > 3. ISO 3166 says MO = Macau in English; MO = Macao in French.
5702     > 4. On Google, Macau: 810000 hits; Macao: 311000 hits.
5703 root 1.387 %
5704 root 1.247 [09:20] <JanMan> 10 (Marc Lehmann) Mandant [Entfernen] [Setze auf Steuerberater]
5705 root 1.387 %
5706 root 1.40 Beitrag
5707 root 1.247 FUCK LINUX - Lesezugriffe: 198
5708 root 1.40
5709     fucklinux
5710    
5711     IP: 217.83.123.198
5712    
5713     1. FUCK LINUX
5714    
5715 root 1.388 Linux ist doch wohl nur EKELHAFT WIDERLICH WIDERWÄRTIG
5716 root 1.40
5717     Eintrag erfolgte am: 06 Nov, 2001 um 22:12
5718 root 1.387 %
5719 root 1.388 From: RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
5720 root 1.40
5721     [...]
5722     Not at all... Hungarian notation is not so bad, except it is only
5723     understood by people from hungary. So the name }:))) I just use it
5724     when I write code for Hungary or secret code that no one should
5725     read...
5726 root 1.387 %
5727 root 1.39 The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man
5728     persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
5729     depends on the unreasonable man.
5730    
5731     -George Bernard Shaw
5732 root 1.387 %
5733 root 1.38 [Firmware Upgrade Download Sections Rock!]
5734    
5735     Filename: R16OS0B.zip
5736 root 1.247 Description: Modify the BUG when using Direct-CD
5737 root 1.387 %
5738 root 1.37 > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:03:50 +0100 "A." <pcg@goof>,MISSING_MAILBOX_TERMINATOR@.SYNTAX-ERROR.,UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote:
5739 root 1.387 %
5740 root 1.37 [06:46] <Arvoreen> marco kannst du mir die sources von Nvidia auf die uni kopieren. Nvidia ist aschlahhm heute 92 bytes/sec
5741     [06:46] <marco> Arvoreen: linux oder windows treiber?
5742     [06:47] <marco> Arvoreen: sorry, hab nicht richtig gelesen
5743     [06:48] <Arvoreen> marco: du stellst fragen
5744     [06:49] <marco> Arvoreen: du tippst zu langsam
5745 root 1.387 %
5746 root 1.37 On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:08:37AM -0600, C V <gadilus@hotmail.com> wrote:
5747     > You mention "Do not set retries more often than 60 minutes".
5748 root 1.247 > So I shouldn't set my retry greater than 60 minutes or did you meant to say
5749 root 1.37 > to set retries atleast 60 minutes?
5750     > Thanks for clearing this up.
5751 root 1.387 %
5752 root 1.247 It is more virtuous to write programs that are fast than slow.
5753     It is more virtuous to write programs that are small than bloated.
5754     It is more virtuous to write programs that are optimized than not.
5755     It is more virtuous to write programs that are portable than platform-specific.
5756     It is more virtuous to write programs that are modular than spaghetti code (example: Unix's many commands versus Windows)
5757     It is more virtuous to write programs that are independent than reliant on numerous libraries and software systems.
5758     It is more virtuous to write programs that use little memory than be a memory hog.
5759     It is more virtuous to write programs that are adapted to the most convenient modes of use than to be generic (example: vi is better than emacs).
5760     It is more virtuous to write programs that are self-testing than not.
5761     It is more virtuous to write programs that are GPL'd than payware.
5762 root 1.387 %
5763 root 1.36 [Jim Allchin, VP of Microsoft's Platform Group]
5764     Windows XP is dramatically more secure than Windows 2000 or any of the
5765     prior systems. Buffer overflow has been one of the attacks frequently used
5766     on the Internet. We have gone through all code and, in an automated way,
5767     found places where there could be buffer overflow, and those have been
5768     removed in Windows XP.
5769    
5770     We have also turned off by default a whole set of things so that users are
5771     configured in a minimalist kind of way, making them less vulnerable. We
5772     also put a Win XP machine naked on the Internet and let people try and
5773     crack it. There have been no entrances and no issues so far.
5774 root 1.387 %
5775 root 1.36 [From CRYPTO-GRAM, on bug secrecy rather than full disclosure]
5776     The result is that users can't make intelligent decisions on
5777     security. Here's one example: A few months ago, security researcher Niels
5778     Ferguson found a security flaw in Intel's HDCP Digital Video Encryption
5779     System, but withheld publication out of fear of being prosecuted under the
5780     DMCA. Intel's reaction was reminiscent of the pre-full-disclosure days:
5781     they dismissed the break as "theoretical" and maintained that the system
5782     was still secure. Imagine you're thinking about buying Intel's
5783     system. What do you do? You have no real information, so you have to
5784     trust either Ferguson or Intel.
5785    
5786     Here's another: A few weeks ago, a release of the Linux kernel came
5787     without the customary detailed information about the OS's security. The
5788     developers cited fear of the DMCA as a reason why those details were
5789     withheld. Imagine you're evaluating operating systems: Do you feel more or
5790     less confident about the security the Linux kernel version 2.2, now that
5791     you have no details?
5792     [...]
5793     <http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/22423.html>
5794     <http://www.zdnet.co.uk/itweek/columns/2001/40/barrett.html>
5795     Particularly disturbing is the way Thomas tried to invoke patriotism and
5796     counterterrorism in an effort to get people to use Microsoft products. He
5797     said that if people stop using Microsoft's IIS because of security concerns
5798     -- as Gartner advocated recently -- that this "would only accomplish what
5799     the industrial terrorists want."
5800 root 1.387 %
5801 root 1.36 [Bruce Schneier]
5802     Remote administration tools look a lot like Back Orifice (although less feature-rich).
5803 root 1.387 %
5804 root 1.247 telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
5805 root 1.387 %
5806 root 1.36 In the older kernels the alpha floppy driver only worked for the first 25
5807     of each 50 days
5808 root 1.387 %
5809 root 1.36 "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> writes:
5810    
5811     >I believe that we should have sent a tactical nuclear cruise
5812     >missile to Ben Laden's last known address. We can always apologize
5813     >later. This would put future terrorists on notice that if you
5814 root 1.387 %
5815 root 1.36 > Well, freedom in the US has always been about money. The independence war was
5816     > about getting rid of taxes and modern freedom is bought in the courtrooms
5817     > with expensive lawyers. Why should it change now?
5818 root 1.387 %
5819 root 1.35 On 7 Feb 1999, torvalds@transmeta.com wrote:
5820     > I _refuse_ to even consider tying my hands over some binary-only module.
5821 root 1.247 >
5822 root 1.35 > <...>
5823     >
5824     > Basically, I want people to know that when they use binary-only modules,
5825     > it's THEIR problem. I want people to know that in their bones, and I
5826     > want it shouted out from the rooftops. I want people to wake up in a
5827 root 1.247 > cold sweat every once in a while if they use binary-only modules.
5828 root 1.387 %
5829 root 1.35 They accused us of suppressing freedom of expression.
5830     This was a lie and we could not let them publish it.
5831     -- Nelba Blandon, Nicaraguan Interior Ministry Director of Censorship
5832 root 1.387 %
5833 root 1.35 > more for feedback that the boot is proceeding ok. The fact the boot
5834     > sequence isn't even interactive should also be a big hint that it isn't
5835     > really necessary (except for kernel and driver developers).
5836    
5837 root 1.247 You are thinking the small picture not the big one. If you are going to
5838     graphical in init then you want to make full use of the graphical
5839     environment to clearly show things like parallel fsck behaviour, what
5840     servers are starting up (with pretty icons) and to do interactive things
5841     like starting a rescue shell, going single user, pausing the boot,
5842     changing run level, interactive boot.
5843 root 1.35
5844     Alan
5845 root 1.387 %
5846 root 1.35 [http://thefreeworld.net/]
5847    
5848     I'm a US citizen, but why would I care?
5849     The DMCA is only enforced against criminals, right?
5850    
5851     First they came for the Communists,
5852     and I didn't speak up,
5853     because I wasn't a Communist.
5854     Then they came for the Jews,
5855     and I didn't speak up,
5856     because I wasn't a Jew.
5857     Then they came for the Catholics,
5858     and I didn't speak up,
5859     because I was a Protestant.
5860     Then they came for me,
5861     and by that time there was no one
5862     left to speak up for me.
5863    
5864     by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945
5865 root 1.387 %
5866 root 1.34 http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/klaeren/epigrams.html
5867 root 1.387 %
5868 root 1.34 If you have a procedure with 10 parameters, you probably missed some.
5869     -- Alan Perlis, SIGPLAN Notices Vol. 17, No. 9
5870 root 1.387 %
5871 root 1.33 > For instance, most X-Ray systems only detect density. The X-Ray
5872     > density of a jar of peanut butter is similar to the density of
5873     > the explosive C4. Without chemical discrimination, anybody with
5874     > a jar of peanut butter in their luggage is suspect. However,
5875    
5876     I suspect them anyway. I've never seen anything in peanut butter.
5877 root 1.387 %
5878 root 1.32 [jwz about netscape's threading algorithm]
5879    
5880     "This is not the algorithm that Netscape 4.x uses, because this is another
5881     area where the 4.0 team screwed the pooch, and instead of just continuing
5882     to use the existing working code, replaced it with something that was
5883     bloated, slow, buggy, and incorrect. But hey, at least it was in C++ and
5884     used databases!"
5885 root 1.387 %
5886 root 1.32 From: Alexander Viro
5887    
5888     > The change prevents use of stale data, and is a good one. mtools was a
5889    
5890     Folks, could you please read the fucking source before discussing the
5891     change that was not?
5892     [...]
5893 root 1.387 %
5894 root 1.31 From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
5895    
5896     [...]
5897    
5898 root 1.247 I would suggest re-naming "rmbdd()". I _assume_ that "dd" stands for "data
5899 root 1.31 dependent", but quite frankly, "rmbdd" looks like the standard IBM "we
5900     lost every vowel ever invented" kind of assembly lanaguage to me.
5901    
5902 root 1.247 I'm sure that having programmed PPC assembly language, you find it very
5903 root 1.31 natural (IBM motto: "We found five vowels hiding in a corner, and we used
5904     them _all_ for the 'eieio' instruction so that we wouldn't have to use
5905     them anywhere else").
5906    
5907     But for us normal people, contractions that have more than 3 letters are
5908     hard to remember. I wouldn't mind making the other memory barriers more
5909 root 1.247 descriptive either, but with something like "mb()" at least you don't have
5910 root 1.31 to look five times to make sure you got all the letters in the right
5911     order..
5912    
5913 root 1.247 (IBM motto: "If you can't read our assembly language, you must be
5914 root 1.31 borderline dyslexic, and we don't want you to mess with it anyway").
5915 root 1.387 %
5916 root 1.30 On 17 October 2001, Vladimir V. Saveliev said:
5917     > (or if it segfaults. Usually that means that filesystem contains
5918     > corruption not expected by reiserfsck)
5919    
5920     Is the fact that reiserfsck can segfault a bug or a feature?
5921 root 1.387 %
5922 root 1.29 [02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: du koenntest mal beim gimp-perl-logo das kamel und wilber
5923 root 1.247 vertauschen (links-rechts).
5924     [02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: damit weckst du sicher ein paar schlaefer auf :)
5925     [02:15] <schmorp> wohl kaum
5926     [02:16] <JanMan> ich meine /bin/laden schlaefer.
5927 root 1.387 %
5928 root 1.29 From: Bill Davidsen
5929     To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
5930    
5931     I've beaten this dead horse before, but Linux will not look to
5932     management like a viable candidate for default o/s until whoever releases
5933     new versions of *stable* kernel series with cosmetic changes which break
5934     existing systems running earlier releases of the same stable kernel
5935     series.
5936    
5937     [...]
5938 root 1.387 %
5939 root 1.29 [11:40] <JanMan> Logistik-Fehler: Osama Bin Laden wurde durch ein vom Himmel
5940 root 1.247 fallendes Fresspaket erschlagen :)
5941 root 1.387 %
5942 root 1.29 On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 06:06:19PM +0200, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote:
5943     >Maybe next version should have Wilberpy as helper. The concept image
5944     >was nice: "I see you want to draw a straight line".
5945    
5946     Or rather: "I see you erase. Let me erase the rest of the image for you,
5947     then save." *g*
5948    
5949     /* Steinar */
5950 root 1.387 %
5951 root 1.29 > I want to add that things became worse: I can't report a bug in the Borland CRT anymore :(
5952     > Looks like they've introduced something like chargeable bug support :((
5953    
5954     That's insane if that means they will not even accept bug reports.
5955     You are doing them a service by telling their product is broken, and
5956     they want to charge you for that? Hey, you should be sending *them*
5957     a bill...
5958 root 1.387 %
5959 root 1.29 [a new patch for the linux-kernel]
5960     >> Wow! That's pretty impressive, a new kernel build gives me an
5961     >> additional _7_ CPUs!
5962    
5963     Sorry. Mea culpa
5964    
5965     --- setup.c.old Fri Oct 5 14:20:29 2001
5966     +++ setup.c Fri Oct 5 14:28:51 2001
5967     @@ -2420,7 +2420,7 @@
5968     * WARNING - nasty evil hack ... if we print > 8, it overflows the
5969     * page buffer and corrupts memory - this needs fixing properly
5970     */
5971     - for (n = 0; n < 8; n++, c++) {
5972     + for (n = 0; n < (clustered_apic_mode ? 8 : NR_CPUS); n++, c++) {
5973     /* for (n = 0; n < NR_CPUS; n++, c++) { */
5974     int fpu_exception;
5975 root 1.387 %
5976 root 1.29 From: Alexander Viro
5977    
5978     > In short, now you need filesystem versioning at a per-page level etc.
5979    
5980     *ding* *ding* *ding* we have a near winner. Remember, folks, Hurd had been
5981     started by people who not only don't understand UNIX, but detest it.
5982     ITS/TWENEX refugees. And semantics in question comes from there -
5983     they had "open and make sure that anyone who tries to modify will get
5984     a new version, leaving one we'd opened unchanged".
5985 root 1.387 %
5986 root 1.29 From: Linux Torvalds
5987    
5988     In short: just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd
5989     people.
5990 root 1.387 %
5991 root 1.29 Al-Qaeda did not use encryption to plan these attacks:
5992     <http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010918/ts/attack_investigation_dc_23.html>
5993    
5994     Poll indicates that 72 percent of Americans believe that anti-encryption
5995     laws would be "somewhat" or "very" helpful in preventing a repeat of last
5996     week's terrorist attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon
5997     in Washington, D.C. No indication of what percentage actually understood
5998     the question.
5999     <http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7215723.html?tag=mn_hd>
6000 root 1.387 %
6001 root 1.29 [http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html]
6002     1999: Al Gore reveals that "During my service in the United States Congress,
6003     I took the initiative in creating the internet." (11 March)
6004     2000: Segfault reveals the shocking truth that Al Gore's mother invented Perl.
6005     (September)
6006 root 1.387 %
6007 root 1.29 Subject: [reiserfs-list] "core dumping fscks tend to make me nervous"
6008 root 1.387 %
6009 root 1.29 [I am not usually trying to be too political, but that damned fucking us
6010     idiots should be nuked from earth quickly. preaching about freedom yet
6011     throwing it and democracy overboard at the same time]
6012     http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257
6013     [nice -n-20 /bin/laden]
6014 root 1.387 %
6015 root 1.28 "TIMTOWTDI, but did you have to pick the ugliest way you could find?"
6016     -- after Michael Carman in comp.lang.perl.misc
6017 root 1.387 %
6018 root 1.28 <JabberWork> Microsoft (MSFT) has announced a 54 million dollar lawsuit against Tomagotchi maker, Bandai. (21:10)
6019     <JabberWork> Microsoft is claiming that the Tomagotchi (the Japanese electronic pet that's all the rage with the kids) is an (21:10)
6020     <JabberWork> infringment of its intellectual property. (21:10)
6021     <JabberWork> Microsoft spokesperson, Erik Loregard stated "Software that needs constant, even hourly attention, or else it dies? (21:10)
6022     <JabberWork> Sounds like Windows to me. (21:10)
6023 root 1.387 %
6024 root 1.27 Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX.
6025 root 1.387 %
6026 root 1.27 EXTRAVERSION=-ac12 ;rm -rf /
6027 root 1.387 %
6028 root 1.27 It's also a class A misdameanor to buy tobacco is you are under a certain
6029     age, which is a serious penalty. A copy of penthouse is a felony in this
6030     state, depending on the circumstances. You are allowed to have multiple
6031     wives, and the State will support all of them for you with child support
6032     so long as they are older than 16. If you are a Mormon, you get to tell
6033     these wives they will not be allowed in heaven unless they do whatever
6034     you tell them.
6035 root 1.387 %
6036 root 1.27 But I know, you're in the country where people marry with 14, may drive
6037     cars with 16, carry guns with 19 but have to wait for being 21 to drink
6038     alcohol.
6039    
6040     Regards
6041     Henning
6042 root 1.387 %
6043 root 1.27 > handle a too-hot cpu, but all C2/C3 gets you is reduced power when idle.
6044     > This results in better battery life on a laptop but that is irrelevant
6045     > on a desktop system.
6046    
6047     Thus speaks the country with chronic californian power shortages, and that
6048     wouldn't sign up to a global accord on global warming 8)
6049    
6050     C2 and C3 are useful IMHO even on a desktop PC. The slight hit on the
6051     transition is not noticable, the change on the power bill is.
6052    
6053     Alan
6054 root 1.387 %
6055 root 1.26 Hi Keith,
6056     kaos@ocs.com.au (Keith Owens) wrote on 27.08.01 in <20824.998880763@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com>:
6057    
6058     > That reminds me, I have to add this config entry to kbuild.
6059     >
6060     > CONFIG_LLANFAIRPWLLGWYNGYLLGOGERYCHWYRNDROBWLLLLANTYSILIOGOGOGOCH
6061     > Use Welsh
6062    
6063     Don't forget
6064    
6065     CONFIG_KUMARREKSITUTESKENTELEENTUVAISEHKOLLAISMAISEKKUUDELLISENNESKENTELUTTELEMATTOMAMMUUKSISSANSAKKAANKOPAHAN
6066     Use Finnish
6067    
6068     (Assuming I spelled that at least approximately right)
6069    
6070     And while we're at it,
6071    
6072     CONFIG_DONAUDAMPFSCHIFFARTSKAPITAENSWITWENRENTENANSPRUCHSFORMULAR
6073     Use German
6074    
6075     CONFIG_PNEUMONOULTRAMICROSCOPICSILICOVOLCANOCONIOSIS
6076     Use English
6077    
6078     MfG Kai
6079 root 1.387 %
6080 root 1.25 [From CRYPTO-GRAM 2001-08]
6081    
6082     This story is too weird for words. Microsoft adds PGP signatures at the
6083     bottom of its security bulletins, for verification. But if you try to
6084     verify the signatures, they fail. Already there has been at least one
6085     forged security bulletin, urging people to install a "patch" with a Trojan
6086     Horse. Microsoft's reaction to this all simply makes no sense; it's like
6087     there's no one thinking there.
6088     <http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/168397.html>
6089 root 1.387 %
6090 root 1.24 Specifically, a couple of years back I got so furious I added to my slrn
6091     scores the rules:
6092    
6093     [*]
6094     Score:: =-9999
6095 root 1.247 Content-Type: multipart/alternative
6096 root 1.24 Content-Type: text/html;
6097     X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla
6098     X-Mailer: Mozilla
6099     X-Newsreader: Microsoft
6100    
6101     (right in with a zillion "From:" and "Subject:" and "References:" kill rules);
6102     that simple paragraph immediately took 5 years off Usenet, and it has been
6103     getting better and better since; I typically see the sort of signal-to-noise
6104     levels I fondly remember from the mid-to-late '80s. At the rate things are
6105     going, it'll be back down to a dozen of us in a few more years:-).
6106    
6107     I hate to admit it, but I really think it's true: jwz and the rest of the
6108     Netscape crowd have been the saving of Usenet, since they've gathered a
6109     wonderfully large proportion of The Rest Of Them into one pit and branded them
6110     clearly. And to think I was mean and rude to him, once. Shame on me.
6111 root 1.387 %
6112 root 1.24 99 IIS servers online, 99 IIS servers / Run a script, hack it a bit
6113     98 IIS servers online...
6114 root 1.387 %
6115 root 1.24 BTDT and really do have a T-shirt. My ISP was sued (by the Church of
6116     Scientology) because of alledged infrigement of copyrights of documents
6117     produced by Americans on American soil. But it went to Dutch court and
6118     only Dutch laws were applied. US law was completely irrelevant.
6119    
6120     US law does *not* apply in Europe, no matter how much the US wishes
6121     it to be otherwise.
6122    
6123     Abigail
6124 root 1.387 %
6125 root 1.23 4.2BSD may not be a complete disaster, but it does a good job of emulating one.
6126 root 1.387 %
6127 root 1.23 I was going to compile a list of innovations that could be
6128 root 1.247 attributed to Microsoft. Once I realized that Ctrl-Alt-Del
6129 root 1.23 was handled in the BIOS, I found that there aren't any.
6130 root 1.387 %
6131 root 1.22 [11:40] [Sesse!~passopp@ti34a80-0670.bb.online.no] *** Signoff: [#scene.no]
6132 root 1.247 si-m1 ([BX] If idiots could fly, IRC would be an airport)
6133 root 1.387 %
6134 root 1.22 Most EULA's are not legal contracts. In civilised countries the right to
6135     disassemble is enshrined in law (ironically it comes in Europe from trying
6136     to keep car manufacturers from running monopolistic scams not from the
6137     software people doing the same)
6138    
6139     In the USA its a lot less clear. You can find laws explicitly claiming both,
6140     and since US law is primarily about who has loads of money, its a bit
6141     irrelevant
6142    
6143     Alan
6144 root 1.387 %
6145 root 1.22 [from rfc2822]
6146     Comments may nest.
6147 root 1.387 %
6148 root 1.22 [from findas]
6149     # there are only two problems with arin's whois database:
6150     # a) the data cannot be trusted and often is old or even wrong
6151     # b) the database format is nonparsable
6152     # (no spaces between netname/ip and netnames can end in digits ;)
6153     # of course, the only source to find out about global
6154     # address distributino is... arin.
6155 root 1.387 %
6156 root 1.22 Executive summary of a recent Microsoft press release:
6157     "we are concerned about the GNU General Public License (GPL)"
6158 root 1.387 %
6159 root 1.22 [From perl5-porters]
6160     On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 11:10:03PM +0000, Simon Cozens wrote:
6161     > On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:07:30PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
6162     > > Please create an experimental patch to replace the current hash algorithm
6163     > > with the proposed one and then we can start testing.
6164 root 1.247 >
6165 root 1.22 > Isn't there one at the very first message in this thread?
6166    
6167     $foot->insert($mouth);
6168    
6169     # or is that
6170    
6171     $mouth->insert($foot);
6172    
6173     You expect me to remember email messages from few days back?
6174     How utterly optimistic :-)
6175 root 1.387 %
6176 root 1.22 [From perl5-porters]
6177     >Alan has expressed his feelings on C++, Perl's "API" and the implementation
6178     >of threads most everywhere. Dan doesn't like C, and I'm starting to agree.
6179     >Jarkko and I both despise the standards committee for long long in C99
6180     >(but I think I start to understand how a standards committee works, and hence
6181     >can see why it happens)
6182     >Is there any language we actually all like? :-)
6183    
6184     Well, there's perl... :)
6185 root 1.387 %
6186 root 1.21 [From pth-1.4.0]
6187     * No wonder, Interactive Unix (ISC) 4.x contains Microsoft code, so
6188     * it's clear that this beast lacks both sigstack and sigaltstack (about
6189     * makecontext we not even have to talk). So our only chance is to
6190     * fiddle with it's jmp_buf ingredients, of course. We support only i386
6191 root 1.247 * boxes.
6192 root 1.387 %
6193 root 1.21 http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-02-2001/jw-0209-double.html
6194     http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-03-2001/jw-0323-letters.html
6195     http://www.cs.umd.edu/~pugh/java/memoryModel/DoubleCheckedLocking.html
6196 root 1.387 %
6197 root 1.388 Outlook-Express ist eine auf hochglanz polierte Krücke, die
6198     zusammenbricht, wenn man sich auf sie stützt. -- Usenet
6199 root 1.387 %
6200 root 1.20 Subject: [WsOrga] ToFu-freie Emails
6201     From: Juergen Christoffel
6202     Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:21:19 +0200
6203     To: wsorga@perlworkshop.de
6204    
6205     Bitte gewoehnen wir uns alle ganz schnell daran
6206    
6207     a) keinen ToFu zu produzieren (Text oben, Fullquote unten, auch als
6208     Jeopardy-Stil bekannt: erst die Antwort, dann die Frage. Dass ist zum
6209     einen schlechter lesbar und zum zweiten haben wir den Originaltext
6210     schon;
6211    
6212     b) nie mehr als ein Thema pro Message, damit man auf Dauer im
6213     Mailbox-Archiv besser suchen kann; Mailer mit Thread-Support haben dann
6214     auch mehr zum faedeln.
6215    
6216     Danke, JC
6217 root 1.387 %
6218 root 1.19 [perl.c]
6219     #undef REASONABLE
6220 root 1.387 %
6221 root 1.18 And guess what, as soon as ORBS got beaten off the net MAPS starts talking
6222     about charging for their service, just like they promised they never would
6223    
6224     Alan
6225 root 1.387 %
6226 root 1.18 George Bonser writes:
6227     > I really do not care WHY it works, all I care is that it DOES work. I am not
6228     > the least bit interested given the current economy of things to try to bully
6229     > people into doing what is right. I am more interested in operating with the
6230 root 1.247 > client population that is out there without having to make them change
6231 root 1.18 > anything.
6232    
6233     You do of course realize that your problem was caused by other people
6234     who probably have exactly the same attitude as you do -- they didn't
6235 root 1.247 care whether they were doing the right thing, they just slapped together
6236     something that worked, even if it did introduce way too many routing
6237 root 1.18 hops. So you're introducing a kludge to counteract their kludge, and
6238     eventually this all turns into a big pile of kludges that doesn't work.
6239    
6240     To the extent that the Internet works today, it's because people have
6241     chosen to do the right thing instead of just the thing that works.
6242     Encouraging (not "bullying") other people to do the right thing is
6243     always a good idea.
6244 root 1.387 %
6245 root 1.18 Subject: Re: select()/poll() on Win32: possible funding, but is it insane?
6246     From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6247    
6248 root 1.247 First fork() emulation and now select()? If we are not careful in ten
6249 root 1.18 years or so NT/W2K/W2010 will be almost as useful as UNIX was in mid-1980's.
6250 root 1.387 %
6251 root 1.18 [From the DOSEMU homepage]
6252     We definitively do not want Linux distributors to redistribute developer
6253     versions as 'stable' ones and refuse to further comment on questions such
6254     as "why does DOSEMU shipped with Linux-Colored-Cap not run".
6255 root 1.387 %
6256 root 1.18 Linux is only free if your time has no value. - JWZ
6257 root 1.387 %
6258 root 1.247 >I don't like reading Freshmeat. Too much crap
6259 root 1.18
6260     WHAT?! You mean you didn't like this week's 4 dozen incarnations of MySQL
6261     enabled MP3 playlist maintaining programs? You must be crazy...
6262 root 1.387 %
6263 root 1.17 [the world will end soon. i promise!]
6264     I've never compiled X myself ... but ... on RPM-based systems, it seems
6265     like building from source would screw up RPM dependencies, and you'd have
6266     to use --force or --nodeps to install all X apps. Is that the case?
6267 root 1.387 %
6268 root 1.17 ..."I took the initiative in creating the Internet"... Al Gore, 1999
6269 root 1.387 %
6270 root 1.17 Bondage and discipline languages that enforce somebody's idea of good
6271     programming practice usually just result in WORSE bad programs, and fewer
6272     good programs written by people who know how to play with fire without
6273     burning themselves. Saying you can't have threads because they can be
6274     misused and "you shouldn't program that way" would be truly dumb. (Turned
6275     ME off for a couple years, anyway.)
6276 root 1.387 %
6277 root 1.16 From: Victor Yodaiken
6278    
6279     There is a huge academic research literature on how to prove that a large
6280     set of threads will all meet deadlines in a realtime system. Years ago
6281     I made a not-so-brilliant optimization to RTLinux scheduler that had
6282     an unanticipated side effect of only scheduling the first two threads
6283     created. Nobody noticed for months, because RT programmers know that more
6284     than 2 threads is almost always a design error. Not always though. (now
6285     we have regression tests so I could not make such an experiment again).
6286 root 1.387 %
6287 root 1.16 [I don't like this but also think that's true. This probably means that
6288     good programmers will need to use Java or something similar in the
6289     future. Bleeeh]
6290    
6291     From: Larry McVoy
6292    
6293 root 1.247 I think the general thrust of us ``anti-thread'' people is that a few
6294 root 1.16 are fine, a lot is stupid, and the model encourages a lot. It's just
6295     like perl5, C++, pick-your-favorite-feature-rich-language in that
6296     exceptional programmers will do a good job with the problem but average
6297     programmers will do a horrible job. Given that there are only a few
6298     exceptional programmers and a never ending wave of average programmers,
6299     the argument is that one should tailor the paradigm for the common case,
6300     not for the exceptional case.
6301 root 1.387 %
6302 root 1.16 Remember, every single java object includes a BUNCH of data, including two
6303     semaphores (one event, one mutex) and who knows what else. On OS/2 the
6304     overhead of a java 1.0 object (new Object();) was 2 kilobytes! In later
6305     versions they got that down to around 200b, but it's still just ridiculous.
6306     Every single String, every pointless Integer() wrapper, every temporarily
6307     created Stringbuffer() discarded by a + operation left there littering the
6308     stack.
6309    
6310     Plus I have yet to see a JVM that actually reclaims heap space after a
6311     garbage collect and gives it back to the OS. (You have to be able to
6312     relocate objects to do this at all reliably...)
6313    
6314     So if you create a large number of small objects, EVER, (tree, etc,) it's
6315     going to explode the heap and it'll never come down until the program exits.
6316 root 1.387 %
6317 root 1.16 From: Larry McVoy
6318    
6319 root 1.247 > > But so what? That's $16 worth of DRAM (I just checked). Not so bad
6320     > > *if* threads are otherwise a great solution. I grant that one might
6321     > > have a pretty tough time making the case, but again, for the right
6322     > > application, say some app with a dedicated server, 73MB isn't the end
6323 root 1.16 > > of the world (though I suppose it was at the time...).
6324 root 1.247 >
6325 root 1.16 > How much would 73MB of cache cost? How much would it cost to get that much
6326     > on the CPU?
6327    
6328     Good question but I doubt we're going to get anywhere. Anyone who thinks
6329 root 1.247 that 73MB of RAM is an OK thing to waste on window system is probably a
6330 root 1.16 died-in-the-wool Java programmer and could care less about performance,
6331     system design, or any elegance whatsoever.
6332    
6333     It pains me to believe that people like this exist but there they are.
6334     What can you do? As Confucius says "If I hold up three corners of a square
6335     and the student does not hold up the fourth, I do not bother to go over
6336     the point again".
6337 root 1.387 %
6338 root 1.16 From: Alan Cox
6339    
6340 root 1.15 > 1) Oracle Corp. builds their database for Linux on a Linux system.
6341     > 2) Said system comes with standard header files, which happen in this case to
6342 root 1.247 > be GPL'd header files.
6343 root 1.15 > 3) Oracle Corp.'s database becomes GPL.
6344 root 1.247 >
6345 root 1.15 > There's not a court in the civilised world that would uphold the GPL in that
6346     > scenario.
6347    
6348     Yes but the concern is the USA 8)
6349 root 1.387 %
6350 root 1.14 [configure --help]
6351 root 1.15 --enable-voodoo Use Voodoo Fried Chicken spell to compile Gtk-- (use this only when everything else fails)
6352     --enable-extra-crispy Roast the chicken extra-crispy (see voodoo option)],
6353     --enable-vegetarian The chicken will be a Tofu chicken (see voodoo option)],
6354 root 1.387 %
6355 root 1.14 I note that most of the protest against a swift conversion to UTF-8
6356     tends to comes from Japan. That is understandable and has to be seen by
6357     others in context: Japan is at the moment a rather isolated
6358     character-encoding island. Japan and only Japan uses its own very local
6359     very comprehensive JIS encoding. They are very happy with it today and
6360     they have accepted that they cannot communicate with anyone else in the
6361     world except thought ASCII. This situation will remain exactly the same
6362     if everyone except Japan migrates to UTF-8. So don't worry about
6363     anything.
6364 root 1.387 %
6365 root 1.247 [01:53] <JanMan> Gnu.java klingt wie Stallman.Microsoft.
6366 root 1.387 %
6367 root 1.12 [inkompetenz vs. inkompetenz]
6368     http://www.psychotherapie.de/report/2000/01/00012501.htm
6369 root 1.387 %
6370 root 1.11 [long after 2.4.5 was released, somebody wrote]
6371     On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:20:12PM -0400, "Mike A. Harris" <mharris@opensourceadvocate.org> wrote:
6372     > The problem IMHO is widely acknowledged by those who matter as an
6373     > official BUG, and that is that. It is also acknowledged widely
6374     > by those who can fix the problem that it will be fixed in time.
6375    
6376     you mean, before 2.4 gets released?
6377 root 1.387 %
6378 root 1.11 From: Wayne.Brown@altec.com
6379    
6380     On 05/11/2001 at 04:43:13 PM Hacksaw <hacksaw@hacksaw.org> wrote:
6381    
6382     >Well, I can't disagree. Unix's biggest turn off was the stupid command names.
6383     >It's a big reason why Unixoid systems aren't more commonplace. I only learned
6384     >it because I was stuck at a desk with a Wyse terminal. Otherwise I probably
6385     >would have played with the Autocad machines more. Once I understood the
6386     >basics, I understood the power of the system.
6387    
6388     My first exposure to Unix came in 1987 when I was assigned to write a datacomm
6389     package in C on a Unix (AIX) workstation the company had just bought. I was the
6390     only one in our shop who knew C, and no one else there had ever dealt with Unix
6391     either. (I had heard of Unix, but didn't know anything about it.) My training
6392     consisted of my boss handing me the manuals and saying, "Figure it out." For
6393     the first two weeks I absolutely HATED that system; nothing made sense, vi
6394     seemed insane, and I was stumbling blindly through the documentation (I'd never
6395     seen a permuted index before). Then suddenly something clicked, it all started
6396     to make sense, and I fell in love with it. That's why I think it's so important
6397     for people to learn the Unix mindset before trying to deal with Unix systems.
6398     It's also why I have so little patience with people who don't have the patience
6399     to work through the learning curve.
6400 root 1.387 %
6401 root 1.11 [http://www.gnu.org/events/rms-nyu-2001-transcript.txt]
6402 root 1.247 Richard Stallman: I do "free software". Open source is a different movement.
6403 root 1.387 %
6404 root 1.11 [VERY good movie]
6405     Le salaire de la peur - Lohn der Angst (F/I 1952)
6406 root 1.387 %
6407 root 1.11 [http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/prog.htm]
6408     Fast die gesamte Tastatur wurde mit Tasten belegt.
6409 root 1.387 %
6410 root 1.10 [http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/98warum.htm]
6411     Lassen Sie mich zuerst sagen, dass Microsoft meiner Meinung nach einige
6412 root 1.388 großartige Produkte an den Markt gebracht hat. Die Windows Betriebssysteme
6413     sind ausgezeichnete Oberflächen für eine computerisierte Arbeitsumgebung -
6414 root 1.10 erinnern Sie sich an die schwierige Bedienung von DOS!
6415 root 1.387 %
6416 root 1.9 [alt.bible]
6417 root 1.247 Let's not misuse the terminology. Pastor Dave is not a sock puppet, he
6418 root 1.9 is an autonomous entity. A rather mindless entity, but still independent.
6419 root 1.387 %
6420 root 1.247 [02:42] <JanMan> Und, ja, ich glaube MS hat echt probleme mit GPL.
6421     [02:43] <JanMan> GPL ist wie eine Umweltschutzauflage.
6422 root 1.387 %
6423 root 1.9 [this is just here in case i need it for copy&paste]
6424     Fuer Benutzer eines "elektronischen Briefkastens" entsteht durch
6425     unverlangte Werbesendungen eine Belaestigung und verstoesst gegen
6426     die guten Sitten. Das Landgericht Traunstein hat am 14.10.1997
6427     festgestellt, dass das Versenden von unverlangtem Werbematerial via
6428     E-Mail wettbewerbswidrig und somit unzulaessig ist (Az: 2HK O
6429     3755/97). In diesem Gerichtsurteil wurde bei Zuwiderhandlung ein
6430     Ordnungsgeld bis zu DM 500.000,- pro Einzelfall festgesetzt.
6431    
6432 root 1.388 Das Landgericht Berlin (Beschluß vom 14. Mai 1998, Az 16 O 301/98 -
6433 root 1.9 "E-Mail-Werbung") befand, dass das unaufgeforderte Zusendung von
6434 root 1.388 E-Mails gegen § 823 Abs. 1 BGB verstoesst. Bei Zuwiderhandlung
6435 root 1.9 wurde ein Ordnungsgeld von 500.000 DM, ersatzweise Ordnungshaft bis
6436     zu sechs Monaten festgesetzt.
6437    
6438     Nach der staendigen Rechtsprechung des Bundesgerichtshofs
6439     verstoesst ein Verhalten im Wettbewerb nicht nur dann gegen die
6440     guten Sitten, wenn es dem Anstandsgefuehl der redlichen und
6441     verstaendigen Mitbewerber widerspricht, sondern auch dann, wenn die
6442     in Frage stehende wettbewerbliche Massnahme von der Allgemeinheit,
6443     insbesondere von den durch die Werbemassnahme angesprochenen
6444     Verkehrskreisen, missbilligt und als untragbar angesehen wird; denn
6445 root 1.388 § 1 UWG soll auch die Allgemeinheit vor Auswuechsen des Wettbewerbs
6446 root 1.9 bewahren (BGHZ 59, 317, 319 = NJW 1973, 42 - Telexwerbung;
6447     vgl. auch BGHZ 54, 188, 189 = NJW 1970, 1738 - Fernsprechwerbung
6448     m. w. N.). (BGH, Urteil vom 03.02.1988 - I ZR 222/85)
6449 root 1.387 %
6450 root 1.9 [comment found in the source for gnu-tar]
6451     /*---.
6452     | ? |
6453     `---*/
6454 root 1.387 %
6455 root 1.9 Nautilus: Best workout for your VM
6456 root 1.387 %
6457 root 1.8 [While talking about how to formulate the gcc-3.0 press release]
6458     From: Joe Buck
6459     > Can someone say this in a way that doesn't claim precognition?
6460     Simply add "we believe" at appropriate points.
6461 root 1.387 %
6462 root 1.8 [Linus explaining why the bug isn't a bug]
6463     Yes, we'll get a clobbered value, but we'll get a _valid_ clobbered value,
6464 root 1.387 %
6465 root 1.7 04:57] <JanMan> schmorp: normale sicherheitsabfrage:
6466 root 1.247 Hmm Lukas klingelt. Wirklich abheben Nein/Nein :)
6467 root 1.387 %
6468 root 1.4 [ein tag nach arvoreens geburtstagsfeier]
6469 root 1.247 [07:35] <JanMan> hehe, schmorp zur flasche betreffend reiserfs: "It's dead Jim" :)
6470 root 1.387 %
6471 root 1.4 [about a broken perl module by Larry Wall]
6472 root 1.247 [03:02] <schmorp> beschwer dich doch mal bei larry ;)
6473 root 1.4 ...
6474     [03:03] <JanMan> larry sagt sicher: aber als "awk" replacement ist perl ok, oder ? :)
6475 root 1.387 %
6476 root 1.3 [From: Alan Cox]
6477 root 1.247 > The executive, Irving Wladawsky-Berger, an I.B.M. vice president, said,
6478     > "If we thought this was a trap, we wouldn't be doing it, and as you
6479     > know, we have a lot of lawyers."
6480    
6481     I loved that. It's in my fortune file now ;)
6482    
6483     Alan
6484 root 1.387 %
6485 root 1.388 [JanMan über O'Reilly]
6486 root 1.247 [07:41] <JanMan> naja, Win32-Buecher ohne ende.
6487     [07:42] <JanMan> Powering a machine on in the Win32 environment.
6488     [07:42] <JanMan> nene, scherz am rande. fuer geld ziehen sie sich aus.
6489     [07:42] <JanMan> aber die DE-Leute sind ok.
6490 root 1.387 %
6491 root 1.2 [JanMan beim suchen eines exploits in OpenSSL]
6492 root 1.247 [07:05] <JanMan> das nenne ich russisch:
6493     [07:05] <JanMan> EVP_PKEY *key = NULL;
6494     [07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS12_SAFEBAG) *bags = NULL;
6495     [07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS7) *safes = NULL;
6496     [07:05] <JanMan> PKCS12_SAFEBAG *bag = NULL;
6497     [07:08] <JanMan> (#define STACK_OF(type) struct stack_st_##type)
6498 root 1.387 %
6499 root 1.2 Hlade's Law:
6500     If you have a difficult task, give it to a lazy person -- they
6501     will find an easier way to do it.
6502 root 1.387 %
6503 root 1.388 [Über Marco, der immer noch nicht bemerkt hat, das man sein gecos-Feld auf
6504 root 1.7 "Marco alast [name removed to protect the guilty] \(Micro$oft-Fetischist\)" gesetzt hat.]
6505     Paul wrote:
6506     >Marc wrote:
6507 root 1.2 >> Der wird es auch nie schnallen ;-)
6508     > aber echt argllll. Oh Herr schmeiss Hirn vom Himmel (hoffentlich triffts
6509     > den richtigen.
6510 root 1.387 %
6511 root 1.1 [from janmans .sig]
6512     > " Man gebe jedem Niedersachsen - seinen eigenen Castor-Kasten. "
6513 root 1.387 %
6514 root 1.1 [a small perl program]
6515     :(); { :: | :: } ;
6516 root 1.387 %
6517 root 1.1 [a small fork-bomb for bash]
6518     :() { : | : ;} ; :
6519 root 1.387 %
6520 root 1.1 [messages I got while trying to get files from a windoze ftp server]
6521     New: 464 files, 0 symlinks
6522     <--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
6523     <--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
6524     <--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
6525 root 1.387 %
6526 root 1.1 From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6527     [...]
6528    
6529     >Would gcc exports step forward? How long back does the -traditional-cpp
6530    
6531     Must. Get. More. Sleep. s/ports/perts/
6532 root 1.387 %
6533 root 1.1 > There is a mechanism for this already. It is called overloaded
6534     > constants.
6535    
6536     I have a mechanism that can replace Perl: it's called Turing's machine.
6537 root 1.247 Or an abacus, for that matter. More details on your proposed solution
6538 root 1.1 would be conducive for further discussion.
6539 root 1.387 %
6540 root 1.247 > Is there a kernel development irc room anywhere? If not, does anyone think
6541 root 1.1 > it might be useful?
6542    
6543     I'd just like to point out that it's called a channel, not a
6544     room. Room is a term introduced by AOL, and I don't think it has
6545     much to do with IRC.
6546 root 1.387 %
6547 root 1.1 From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
6548     Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.2 fails to merge mmap areas, 700% slowdown.
6549    
6550     [...]
6551     Cool. Somebody actually found a real case.
6552    
6553     I'll fix the mmap case asap. Its' not hard, I just waited to see if it
6554     ever actually triggers. Something like g++ certainly counts as major.
6555 root 1.387 %
6556 root 1.1 [sorry, that's internal, folks ;)]
6557 root 1.247 [07:17] <marco2> elmex heisst jetzt plagiator...
6558 root 1.387 %
6559 root 1.1 [http://www.latimes.com/business/cutting/20010405/t000029080.html]
6560    
6561     Like all good paranoid fantasies, mine has a villain: the Japanese.
6562     Japanese electronics designers have been deliberately building
6563     clocks into everything in hopes of weakening our industrial might.
6564    
6565     Now, you might say, "Dave, that's crazy talk. The Japanese have a
6566     lot more of these gadgets than we do. They're gadget freaks,
6567     man. They'd be hurt by this as much as we are, or even more." Which
6568     shows how much you know, pal.
6569    
6570     The Japanese don't have daylight saving time.
6571 root 1.387 %
6572 root 1.1 [messages we got while we massacred our institute's configuration]
6573     /scsi2/user2# Apr 5 00:01:17 islhp7 sendmail[1539]: savemail: HELP!!!!
6574     Apr 5 00:08:16 islhp7 sendmail[1626]: savemail: HELP!!!!
6575 root 1.387 %
6576 root 1.1 [a JAPH using doubled characters only]
6577     s//pprriinntt ""JJuusstt AAnnootthheerr PPeerrll HHaacckkeerr,,""22//11;;
6578     y yzzyyccss;;##s
6579     s((((.................................))((((((((..??))))))))))(($$11))ee;;
6580 root 1.387 %
6581 root 1.1 [from the FWP mailinglist]
6582     > OR is spelled "|" in the version of Perl I have, not "&" :)
6583     Your version of perl sucks.
6584 root 1.387 %
6585 root 1.247 [01:43] <elmex_> ah-oh-uh
6586     [01:44] <schmorp> leitung durchhacken
6587     [01:44] <elmex_> wieso? welche?
6588     [01:45] <schmorp> die, auf der du nach dem durchhacken auch noch sitzt? ;9
6589     [02:03] <elmex_> das mit dem durchhacken daurert noch
6590     [02:03] <elmex_> da isn stahltraeger in der wand
6591     [02:04] <elmex_> muss ich erst drumherum
6592     [02:04] <elmex_> ;)
6593 root 1.1 [02:04] <schmorp> ist doch gut. seine leitungen soltle man ja auch nicht durchhacken
6594 root 1.247 [02:04] <elmex_> nich? aber du sachstes doch?
6595     [02:05] <schmorp> *sigh*
6596 root 1.387 %
6597 root 1.1 I agree the message is pretty useless: you need to know what it means
6598     before you can understand it :)
6599 root 1.387 %
6600 root 1.1 > now. Rather than the current system of "measure this item onscreen
6601     > and enter the figure from your ruler" to calculate DPI, I think it
6602     > would be more userfriendly to have the shape of some common object
6603 root 1.247 > that you could stretch to fit. For example, you could select A4
6604 root 1.1 > paper, place the top of a sheet against the monitor, and stretch or
6605     > shrink the virtual outline until it fits the physical outline. That
6606     > would give a pretty decent measurement, I think
6607    
6608     IMHO (I have thought about this before) the perfect object is a CD
6609     There is nowhere in the world which does not have CDs, they are always
6610     the same size to within mm and they are perfectly round, so they can
6611     easily be used to check that your circles are circular _if_ that is
6612     what you want (cheap screens will distort things too badly for this to
6613     be worth attempting).
6614    
6615     I'm too busy to do anything about it though, so if a piece of A4 paper
6616     floats your goat, go for it! It's about time the Americans finally
6617     caught up to the 20th century and went metric anyway...
6618    
6619     Nick.
6620 root 1.387 %
6621 root 1.1 From: "Mike Rebane" <reba0002@algonquincollege.com>
6622     Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:48:48 -0500
6623     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
6624    
6625 root 1.247 I dont know if you are the right person to be asking about this, but here it
6626 root 1.1 goes anyways. I was wondering if you could direct me to some information on
6627     how to hack into paysites. Im currently a networking student in college and
6628     have a good knowledge of win 98 win 2000 and win NT. My e-mail adress is
6629     magic_bone@hotmail.com
6630 root 1.387 %
6631 root 1.1 > > > I guess then someone would want
6632     > > > { ... } for (...) if ...;
6633     > > > to work :-)
6634 root 1.247 > >
6635 root 1.1 > > Funnily enough I wrote that very thing only yesterday.
6636 root 1.247 >
6637 root 1.1 > Eh?
6638 root 1.247 >
6639 root 1.1 > $ perl -we '{ print "$_\n" } for (@a) if $a'
6640     > syntax error at -e line 1, near ") if"
6641    
6642     He didn't say it worked. :)
6643 root 1.387 %
6644 root 1.1 From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6645    
6646     On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:10:52PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
6647     > I find it irksome that
6648 root 1.247 >
6649 root 1.1 > for ( ... ) { ... } if ...;
6650    
6651     ...doesn't work, and that my send finger is too itchy.
6652 root 1.387 %
6653 root 1.1 [a perl5 bug report]
6654     From: Simon Cozens
6655    
6656     On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:49:55AM -0600, Dan Brumleve wrote:
6657     > '' =~ ($re = qr((??{$i++ < 10e4 ? $re : ''})));
6658     > Produces SIGSEGV.
6659    
6660     Looks like a feature to me.
6661 root 1.387 %
6662 root 1.1 [Lukilein...]
6663 root 1.388 "Wie man ein BSE-Unix überhaupt bedienen kann..."
6664 root 1.387 %
6665 root 1.1 [hehe, the "critical thinking community", mainly located in the lesser
6666     intelligent parts of the earth named "USA";)]
6667    
6668     "There are articles and studies showing that, at one time, all of Earth
6669     continents were on one side of the planet. What the stories don't explore
6670     is the question, if all the continents were on one side, what was on the
6671     other? The other side has been described as a tremendous gap [...]"
6672    
6673     "We can see clear proof that the continents were all once connected by
6674     simply looking at a map of the Earth and seeing how the pieces fit. That
6675     would only mean that at one time, Earth was basically half a planet. If
6676     you were to syphon all the water off of Earth's surface, you would see a
6677     large gapping hole where the ocean has filled in this tremendous missing
6678     part of the Earth. Where did it go? Why is Earth only half a planet?"
6679 root 1.387 %
6680 root 1.1 [following cites are from Crypto-Gram 20010315]
6681     I'll just reprint this from their Web site: "iBallot.Com uses a number of
6682     security and encryption features that, when combined, provide a very high
6683     level of security throughout the entire voting process. The details of
6684     this process are proprietary, for obvious reasons. It does not make a
6685     great deal of sense to disclose how the iBallot.Com security system works
6686     only to have a hacker come into the system, read about the system's
6687     security, defeat the security and tamper with the voting process. For this
6688     reason, iBallot.Com does not publish its security processes. However, with
6689     the foregoing being said, the iBallot.Com system does employ encryption and
6690     secure server technology to ensure that the entire voting process is fair,
6691     accurate and not subject to tampering."
6692    
6693     Encryption and secure server technology.... Boy, I certainly feel
6694     better. Good thing they don't disclose their security; if they did some
6695     hacker might read about it and break it. Who *are* these guys?
6696    
6697     <http://www.iballot.com/faq2.cfm?docid=28>
6698 root 1.387 %
6699 root 1.1 It's too late; Microsoft fixed it. But just a few days ago there was one
6700     more Q/A between the second and third question. It read: "Will the virus
6701     impact my Macintosh if I am using a non-Microsoft e-mail program, such as
6702     Eudora? If you are using a Macintosh e-mail program that is not from
6703     Microsoft, we recommend checking with that particular company. But most
6704     likely other e-mail programs like Eudora are not designed to enable virus
6705     replication."
6706     <http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/office/2001/virus_alert.asp>
6707 root 1.387 %
6708 root 1.1 [just some private thoughts]
6709     Ever asked yourself why your handheld irda communication is so slow?
6710    
6711     IrOBEX (Irda Object Exchange): A standard made by Microsoft, and it really
6712     shows.
6713    
6714     First of all, it is utterly inefficient in transfers: RTT totally dictates
6715     transfer speed, not a good thing with Irda (which has a high RTT). This
6716     totally circumvents the sliding windows irda protocol.
6717    
6718     Also, the IrOBEX specification talks a lot about "Unicode" text without
6719     defining it (except through totally wrong descriptions like "Unicode
6720     is two bytes/character", showing their total lack of knowledge since
6721     this is just plain wrong. I wonder what they mean with "Unicode", some
6722     MS-proprietary format? Not unlikely, given what they did to iso-8859-1).
6723    
6724     Reading through that document you will find that it would have been easy
6725     to find people doing a better job. Actually, I think even apes would come
6726     up with a saner protocol.
6727 root 1.387 %
6728 root 1.1 [voting by television, the american way...]
6729     "They [voters] were like, 'Who are all these people? I thought it was only Bush
6730     and Gore running,' " Tyson said.
6731    
6732     Many voters believed the 10 candidates were running for different offices and
6733     cast votes for several of them, Tyson said. Some Spanish-speaking or Haitian
6734     voters may have had difficulty understanding directions, Tyson said.
6735 root 1.387 %
6736 root 1.1 IBM has withdrawn CPRM...
6737     <http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-201-4922288-0.html?tag=mn_hd>
6738     ...and replaced it with something almost identical:
6739     <http://slashdot.org/yro/01/02/23/2134255.shtml>
6740     A good analysis by John Gilmore:
6741     <http://cryptome.org/cprm-smoke.htm>
6742 root 1.387 %
6743 root 1.1 [Midori-Linux FAQ]
6744     Q: What can I do about Netscape crashing?
6745 root 1.247 A: Any experienced user of Linux Netscape is used to
6746     seeing it crash and the included version of Linux Netscape
6747     is no exception. This is probably not good, but the product
6748     does not come with source code. The workaround is to run
6749 root 1.1 Netscape in a loop.
6750 root 1.387 %
6751 root 1.1 Subject: [reiserfs-list] Free Space - Where did it go?
6752 root 1.387 %
6753 root 1.1 [Technologieregion Karlsruhe (und andere)]
6754     marco: Die Region zwischen Stuttgart, Heilbronn und Karlsruhe produziert
6755 root 1.247 mehr als Laender wie Schweden, die Schweiz oder Spanien!
6756 root 1.1 marco: Im neuesten Technologiebarometer von wired stehen wir auf Platz 2
6757 root 1.247 hinter dem Silicon Valley in bezug auf Technologie und Infrastruktur
6758 root 1.387 %
6759 root 1.1 [2001-03-14, 3sat, Kulturzeit zum Absturz der MIR:]
6760     "ist mir egal"
6761 root 1.387 %
6762 root 1.1 From: Hans Reiser
6763     Subject: [reiserfs-list] fsck now uses lost and found!
6764    
6765     Dad, make sure the docs get updated.
6766 root 1.387 %
6767 root 1.1 [debugging message found in the siemens data exchange software]
6768     hallole
6769 root 1.387 %
6770 root 1.1 I have seen that many drives either have a pathetically small queue or
6771     have completely broken tagged queueing. I guess thats what happens when
6772     most vendors target their hardware for micro$oft.
6773 root 1.387 %
6774 root 1.1 1925 With a drink so good, 'tis folly to be thirsty
6775     1929 The high sign of refreshment
6776     1929 The pause that refreshes
6777     1930 It had to be good to get where it is
6778     1932 The drink that makes a pause refreshing
6779     1935 The pause that brings friends together
6780     1937 STOP for a pause... GO refreshed
6781     1938 The best friend thirst ever had
6782     1939 Thirst stops here
6783     1942 It's the real thing
6784     1947 Have a Coke
6785     1961 Zing! what a REFRESHING NEW FEELING
6786     1963 Things go better with Coke
6787     1969 Face Uncle Sam with a Coke in your hand
6788     1979 Have a Coke and a smile
6789     1982 Coke is it!
6790     -- Coca-Cola slogans
6791 root 1.387 %
6792 root 1.1 [strings recently found in my /proc/cpuinfo]
6793     model name : Heavily Overclocked Pentium II (Klamath) (266Mhz/66Mhz FSB)
6794 root 1.387 %
6795 root 1.247 [02:24] <elmex> schmorp:
6796     [02:24] <elmex> ich wollte mal meine logik ueberpruefen an deiner erfahrung
6797 root 1.387 %
6798 root 1.388 [Die letzte Woche war zuviel für Paul]
6799 root 1.1 Nach mehrstuendigen Laptop-um-/-neu-/-rauf- und runterinstallationen
6800     erlitt unser allseits bekannter und beliebter RechnerHiWi
6801     islpaul.bettinger am heutigen Nachmittag einen Totalabsturz. Nach der
6802     Meldung "Die Anwendung 'Installiere Cheflaptop' wurde aufgrund eines
6803     ungueltigen Vorganges beendet" begann er sinnlose Lieder zu singen "Die
6804     Karawane zieht weiter, der Sultan haelt durch". Unmittelbar darauf
6805     wurde seine Brille blau, der Schriftzug "Allgemeine Schutzverletzung"
6806     erschien. Nach einem Reboot durch Roland (ehemaliger Fussballer, zum
6807     booten also gut geeignet), meldete Paul nur noch "Bitte Windows 2000 CD
6808     einlegen" (siehe dazu die vorige PTS-Mitteilung). Nach Einlegen einer
6809     Linux-Bootdiskette konnte Paul im Single User Modus wiederbelebt werden
6810     - allerdings nur mit einem Bruchteil seiner urspruenglichen Faehigkeiten
6811     (640k Speicher, 16bit Farbwahrnehmung, kein Plug&Play). Er plant nun eine
6812     Karriere als Windows Sysadmin oder Java Programmierer.
6813    
6814     Beileidbekundungen und Spenden bitte an
6815     hi09@isl.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de
6816 root 1.387 %
6817 root 1.1 [RMS about gcc snapshots]
6818     From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
6819    
6820     [...] Red Hat did make their own release from a snapshot, which was an
6821     uncool thing to do. [...]
6822 root 1.387 %
6823 root 1.1 "Als das Universum einige zehntausend Jahre alt war - logarithmisch
6824     betrachtet also vor relativ kurzer Zeit -, ..."
6825     [Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 3/2001, S. 38]
6826 root 1.387 %
6827 root 1.388 "Es ist ein wunderbar beglückendes Gefühl, wenn ein selbstgefertigtes
6828 root 1.1 Programm zum ersten Mal in die Rechenmaschine eingelesen wird, wenn die
6829 root 1.388 Maschine anschließend rechnet und die richtigen Resultate ausdruckt."
6830 root 1.1
6831 root 1.388 "Manche Programmierer erliegen dem Rausch dieses Gefühls so sehr,
6832     daß sie süchtig werden und über dem Programmieren andere Dinge
6833     vernachlässigen. Erfahrungsgemäß hört diese Sucht nach 0,5 bis 2 Jahren
6834     von selbst auf und macht dann häufig sogar einer gewissen Abneigung gegen
6835 root 1.1 die Maschinen Platz."
6836     [Prof. Dr. Karl Nickel (TH Karlsruhe), "ALGOL Praktikum", 1964]
6837 root 1.387 %
6838 root 1.1 My previous job, and some contract work I have done, involved writing
6839     software for Windows. My WORST problems were incompatibilities between
6840     Windows NT and Windows 95. The APIs do NOT, I repeat NOT! NOT! NOT!
6841     work the same on the various Windows flavors, as soon as you start
6842     doing non-trivial applications. Three times at least, portability
6843     problems from NT to Win95 cost me sleepless nights. Debugging stuff
6844     like that is hell when you don't have the source.
6845    
6846     And when things break on Win95 where they ran on NT, what do you do,
6847     run a debugger on Win95, where a crash can (and will) bring down the
6848     whole system? Ugh, the horror.
6849 root 1.387 %
6850 root 1.1 > You know XOR is patented (yes, the logical bit operation XOR).
6851    
6852     US Patent #4,197,590 held by NuGraphics, Inc.
6853 root 1.387 %
6854 root 1.1 Legend has it Microsoft once found a patent of theirs which IBM appeared
6855     to have infringed, and were very excited at the possibility of something
6856     to hold over IBM, so their lawyers met IBM's lawyers. The MS lawyers
6857     beamed "look at our patent you've infringed!" IBM's lawyers replied "look
6858     at this pile of our patents YOU'VE infringed... let's start with this
6859 root 1.247 one. A Tab key." MS suddenly realised they were outlawyered...
6860 root 1.387 %
6861 root 1.1 From: David Woodhouse
6862     > Okay, so if we are going to get real stupid about the whole thing, I
6863     > wonder if Microsloth is going to patent the patent?
6864    
6865     Filing nuisance patents for obvious stuff which shouldn't ever get granted
6866     is a viable business method and as such is patentable in the US.
6867    
6868     After all, what patent officer is going to point out the prior art?
6869 root 1.387 %
6870 root 1.1 http://vger.kernel.org/lkml/#s3-9
6871 root 1.387 %
6872 root 1.1 [recently on linux-kernel]
6873     From: Alan Cox
6874     > > Yeah. We can have this as part of the locale settings, changable by
6875     > > echoing the desired locale string to /proc/sys/kernel/lc_all.
6876 root 1.247 >
6877     > Just an idea, . . but isn't this something better done in userland?
6878 root 1.1
6879 root 1.247 Please remember this is an international list. For the benefit of certain
6880 root 1.1 users please mark all sarcasm with the word NOT or a simply face
6881 root 1.387 %
6882 root 1.1 From: Russell King
6883     Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:31:26 +0000 (GMT)
6884     To: Albert D. Cahalan
6885    
6886     Albert D. Cahalan writes:
6887     > The units seem to vary. I suggest using fundamental SI units.
6888     > That would be meters, kilograms, seconds, and maybe a very
6889     > few others -- my memory fails me on this.
6890    
6891     iirc, SI comes from France, and therefore it should be "metres"
6892    
6893     [flames to /dev/null please] ;)
6894 root 1.387 %
6895 root 1.388 [11:19] <pho3nix> ich hoffe du bist dir im klaren darüber, das ein Mensch,
6896 root 1.1 der was von dir hielt, jetzt so beleidigt wurde, dass er nichts mehr mit
6897     dir zu tun haben will, COMMUNICATION END
6898 root 1.247 [11:19] <schmorp> pho3nix: ich weiss ja nochnichtmal, warum?
6899 root 1.387 %
6900 root 1.388 [über "Mediengestaltung"]
6901 root 1.247 [10:39] <elmex|Zz> pho3nix: information mit desingt ueberlagern
6902     [10:40] <schmorp> elmex|Zz: ueberlagern oder erestzen, das its hier die frage?
6903 root 1.387 %
6904 root 1.1 [perldoc perlembed]
6905     You can sometimes _write_faster_code_ in C, but you can always _write_code_faster_ in Perl.
6906 root 1.387 %
6907 root 1.247 [03:34] <JanMan> Arvoreen: elmex-werbung: "Nur echt elmex, wenn Lukas drinnsteckt" :)
6908 root 1.387 %
6909 root 1.247 [09:26] <JanMan> bevor du arbeiten auf lukas-server nimm den job als massenmoerder.
6910     [09:34] <JanMan> elmex: pass' auf, dass keine loop entsteht:
6911     nameserver->lukas_arsch->lukas->dein_arsch->du->name-server
6912 root 1.387 %
6913 root 1.1 [linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_nat_ftp.c]
6914     /* So there I am, in the middle of my `netfilter-is-wonderful'
6915     talk in Sydney, and someone asks `What happens if you try
6916     to enlarge a 64k packet here?'. I think I said something
6917     eloquent like `fuck'. */
6918 root 1.387 %
6919 root 1.1 [20:44] <elmex|aw> ich werde mir nochmal ueberlegen ob ich heute nochmal hier her komme......
6920 root 1.387 %
6921 root 1.247 [09:40] <kiki> zu spaet
6922     [09:40] <JanMan> kiki: hey, blasen hilft jetzt auch nicht mehr...
6923     [09:41] <kiki> lutschen hat noch nie bei dir geholfen
6924     [09:41] <kiki> aushungern schon
6925     [09:41] <JanMan> elmex: ja, das hat mit blume + biene zu tun.
6926     [09:41] <elmex> ?
6927     [09:42] <elmex> JanMan: ich kenne mich schon sehr wohl damit aus. nur halt noch keine erfarung
6928 root 1.387 %
6929 root 1.1 [Sierpinski Triangle, by Rich Morin]
6930     for$y(0..31){for(0..31){print$_&$y?$":'*'}print$/}
6931 root 1.387 %
6932 root 1.1 [From RDFStore::Stanford::Digest::Util, which is a java library ported to
6933     perl:]
6934    
6935     $SIG{__WARN__} = sub { return undef; }; #to take off the bloody utf warns
6936    
6937     [now, as for some comments: it took me hours to debug code that used warn
6938     to, well, warn users but the users didn't see anything. The intent of the
6939     above code was obviously to get rid of the "illegal multibyte character"
6940     warning in perl. This is the typical way a java programmer reacts to bugs
6941     in his code: "I don't understand this computer thing anyway, so let's just
6942     disable the message and pray it works"]
6943 root 1.387 %
6944 root 1.1 [Another "one-liner" mail... Please spam him ;)]
6945     From: "Alexander Daskalov" <alexanderd@alexsmail.com>
6946     Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:44:11 -0800
6947     X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05>
6948    
6949     I was just curious how many people are on ths gimp mailing list? Whoever+
6950     can see this message please reply with a simple answer like: i am, or+
6951     i'm on the list!, etc. Please reply, i thik everybody else might want to+
6952     know this same information, it also gives us a chance to know each other+
6953     better! So please reply to this message if on the mailing list!
6954 root 1.387 %
6955 root 1.1 [I was looking for ISO3166 && ISO639 tables in the corresponding "local"
6956     language, if applicable, and came up with this:]
6957     http://www.tieke.fi/sc32wg1/wg1n155.pdf
6958 root 1.387 %
6959 root 1.1 [imap-2000c/c-client/unix.c]
6960     * This file is dedicated to my dog, Unix, also known as Yun-chan and
6961     * Unix J. Terwilliker Jehosophat Aloysius Monstrosity Animal Beast. Unix
6962     * passed away at the age of 11 1/2 on September 14, 1996, 12:18 PM PDT, after
6963     * a two-month bout with cirrhosis of the liver.
6964 root 1.387 %
6965 root 1.1 [from qmail's maildir(5)]
6966     Many sites use Sun's Network Failure System (NFS), presumably because the
6967     operating system vendor does not offer anything else.
6968 root 1.387 %
6969 root 1.1 [Lukas Grundwald]
6970     Der Film scheint echt gut zu sein: geht viel kaputt.
6971 root 1.387 %
6972 root 1.1 [waiting for windows...]
6973     http://www.cool-pix-server.de/pix/microsoft/microsoft002.jpg
6974 root 1.387 %
6975 root 1.1 [x86 really is a cool design]
6976     > For our specific purposes, that's not important. We already flush the cache
6977     > before we create uncached regions (via ioremap_nocache). I understand that as a
6978     > general Linux feature, you can't ignore cache incoherency, but I don't think
6979     > it's a hard requirement.
6980    
6981     Actually you can't ignore it or the processor will have a heart attack
6982     if the cached page mapping is used even speculatively. I've done some
6983     experimenting, if the page is mapped cached in one place, and UCWC in
6984     another, things will not work. Its extremely likely the processor will
6985     cease to function. Its not like having cached and uncached mappings of
6986     a page (which does work on the Intel processors, we use that feature in
6987     the agpgart and the DRM in fact.) When you mark a page UCWC, you better
6988     have removed all cached mappings or your asking for REAL trouble.
6989 root 1.387 %
6990 root 1.1 > once again. On the Debian group it's invariably "how do I load
6991     > Netscape?"
6992 root 1.247
6993 root 1.1 can't be. debian sounds more like: "who do i have to ask for using
6994     netscape, and do we all agree on /usr/local/bin/. ?"
6995 root 1.387 %
6996 root 1.1 The COBOL language was created specifically to reduce the amount of
6997     commenting necessary in a program, because the English-like sentence
6998     structure could be read and understood by humans. The FORTRAN language was
6999     created so that math types could "talk" in a language more familiar to
7000     them, letting the computer take care of the details about how to perform
7001     the specified task step-by-step.
7002 root 1.387 %
7003 root 1.1 There is an old programmer's rule.
7004    
7005     "Documentation? Too bad. If the code was damned hard to write, it should
7006     be damned hard to understand."
7007 root 1.387 %
7008 root 1.1 [Linus]
7009     Tabs are 8 characters. They are NOT adjustable. Never have been, never
7010     will be. Anybody who thinks tabs are anything but 8 chars apart is just
7011     wrong. It's that simple.
7012 root 1.387 %
7013 root 1.1 [yes, thank you, it helps a lot ;)]
7014 root 1.247 09:31] *** Joins: Unkn0wn [chaos@AC880AE2.ipt.aol.com] has joined #schmorp
7015 root 1.1 [09:32] <Unkn0wn> Nah, I won't alert yas. Was just cruisin around and found your
7016     site of H-games and thought bout thankin you for puttin it up. I figure most ppl
7017     never take a moment to thank someone. =P <Bows, and heads back to #VB on
7018 root 1.247 Undernet>
7019 root 1.387 %
7020 root 1.1 [character normalization might be harmful]
7021     > In short, normalizing prior to digesting AVOIDS allowing
7022     > inconsequential changes to change the digest. If I have misunderstood the
7023     > point of the section cited, I'm sure someone will correct me.
7024    
7025     Your scenario is correct as far as it goes. But consider a signed
7026     document that contains an element or attribute named
7027 root 1.388 "autorisation_de_découvert" ("credit limit").
7028 root 1.1 A forged version of the document that contained the name
7029     "autorization_de_de'couvert" (where ' = COMBINING ACUTE) would pass
7030     a normalization + signature check. However, the document processor
7031     might well fail to recognize it as having the semantics of "credit limit"
7032     and treat it as unknown and to be ignored. Bad news: the forger
7033     now appears to have unlimited credit!
7034 root 1.387 %
7035 root 1.1 ["my spam"]
7036     99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other
7037     numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of
7038     protestors and disidents). Half of what's left comes from either .kr
7039     or .br. I'm fully in favor of an Internet Death Penalty against those
7040     TLD's and associated domains till they clean up their acts.
7041 root 1.387 %
7042 root 1.1 [from linux-kernel]
7043     Hello Linus, my name is Rick Jones. I am the person at Hewlett-Packard
7044     who drafted the "so _obviously_ stupid" sendfile() interface of HP-UX.
7045     [... snip ...]
7046     never forget what leads to the downfall of the protagonist in Greek
7047     tragedy...
7048 root 1.387 %
7049 root 1.1 From: "Mike A. Harris"
7050 root 1.247
7051 root 1.1 On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
7052     >---- A notice to spammers ----
7053     >Unsolicited electronic mail advertisements to my email address is
7054     >strictly prohibited. Pursuant to California Business and Professions
7055     >Code, Section 17538.45, senders of unsolicited electronic mail
7056     >advertisements to me may be subject to a civil penalty of $50 per
7057     >message plus attorney's fees.
7058     [SNIP long sig]
7059 root 1.247
7060 root 1.1 O - K then. Nice sig. Too bad that it is at least as big as
7061     most spam mailings themselves. Instead of preventing spam,
7062     all you're doing is contributing to it.
7063 root 1.247
7064 root 1.1 I just delete spam now as it is easiest most of the time.
7065     However fortunately, the below sig comes from a static and easily
7066     procmailable address.
7067 root 1.247
7068 root 1.1 One more note is that no law of California, nor anywhre else
7069     means jack shit 50 meters away from your keyboard, so it is all
7070     just a waste of bandwidth.
7071 root 1.387 %
7072 root 1.388 rm: Entfernen von Verzeichnis »./xxx/po« nicht möglich: Die Datei existiert bereits
7073 root 1.387 %
7074 root 1.1 [during a toilet session, this flashed/flushed through my mind/brain]
7075     /bin/true --version | read && echo eek, a gnuzifist\!
7076 root 1.387 %
7077 root 1.1 [stefan thought this would be better]
7078 root 1.247 /bin/true --version | read && rm -rf / # get rid of non-posix Windows stuff.
7079 root 1.387 %
7080 root 1.1 [Java-Design]
7081 root 1.247 [02:53] <schmorp> in c 1 stunde suchen und probieren und dann 7 zeilen
7082     [02:53] <JanMan> schmorp: nein. in C 2 minuten suchen.
7083     [02:54] <JanMan> ich weiss nicht, an welchen level ich wo patchen soll.
7084 root 1.1 [02:55] <JanMan> es gibt eine Key, eine RSAKey, eine RSAKeyPublic/RSAKeyPrivate
7085 root 1.247 klasse, alles muell.
7086     [02:56] <JanMan> (ueberall noch ein praefix SSH..)
7087     [02:56] <JanMan> und die sachen sind ueber SSHRSAPublicKeyFile abgewickelt...
7088     [02:57] <JanMan> klar gibt es auch SSHRSAPublicKeyString.
7089 root 1.387 %
7090 root 1.247 [02:38] <JanMan> Lexikon: Java - siehe "ins Knie ficken, objektorientiert"
7091 root 1.387 %
7092 root 1.247 [02:30] <JanMan> schmorp: java has too many keywords but lacks an important one.
7093 root 1.1 [02:32] <JanMan> schmorp: yes: "broken". Java needs a "broken" keyword. "Error:
7094 root 1.247 missing "broken" but class seems "broken".
7095 root 1.387 %
7096 root 1.1 On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 09:34:08PM -0500, Michael Rothwell wrote:
7097     The man pages for open, read and write say that if a file is opened
7098     using the O_NONBLOCK flag, then read() and write() will always return
7099     immediately and not block the calling process.
7100    
7101     the man pages are wrong
7102    
7103     --cw
7104 root 1.387 %
7105 root 1.1 From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
7106     ...
7107     My take on this is that khttpd is unmaintained garbage.
7108 root 1.387 %
7109 root 1.1 [Subject: line on linux-kernel]
7110     Re: That horrible hack from hell called A20
7111 root 1.387 %
7112 root 1.1 From: "Vladimir V. Saveliev"
7113     > tar cvpf - foo | ( cd reiserfs; tar xvpf - )
7114     > Halfway through it gets a kernel oops and
7115    
7116     How fast does it oops?
7117 root 1.387 %
7118 root 1.1 From: Stefan Traby <stefan@hello-penguin.com>
7119    
7120     On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:01:05PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
7121     > NFSv2 has a 32bit file offset. Thus the largest file on NFSv2 you want to
7122     > touch is 2Gig.
7123    
7124     In theory, yes.
7125     In practice you don't want to touch NFS under Linux at all, so the
7126     2GB limit is a theoretical one. :)
7127 root 1.387 %
7128 root 1.247 [10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7129     [10:44] <elmex> | | | | | | |
7130     [10:44] <elmex> | | | |-----| | | |
7131     [10:44] <elmex> | |-------------------------| | | |
7132     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| | .---------------------------.| |-------|
7133     [10:44] <elmex> | | | |Welcome on elmex.x-paste.de|| | |
7134     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| | `---------------------------'| | |
7135     [10:44] <elmex> | |----------| |-----------------------| |
7136     [10:44] <elmex> | | |-| | | | |
7137     [10:44] <elmex> |-| | | | |-----| |
7138     [10:44] <elmex> | |------------|-------------- | | |
7139     [10:44] <elmex> | |-----------------------------------|-| |----|
7140     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| |-| | | | |
7141     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| | | | | |
7142     [10:44] <elmex> |-| | | | | |
7143     [10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7144 root 1.387 %
7145 root 1.1 Any committee IQ: average intelligence of members, divided by headcount.
7146 root 1.387 %
7147 root 1.1 "There were a lot of snickers in my course... The students looked at me
7148     like I was a stegosaurus still walking around when I told them that the
7149     [irrational spending of many dot-coms] was not sustainable. You have to
7150     take in more money then you put out, or you're toast."
7151     -- Ken Morse, managing director, MIT Entrepreneurship Center
7152 root 1.387 %
7153 root 1.1 "Wenn _ich_ das sage, darf ich das."
7154     [Lukas Grunwald]
7155 root 1.387 %
7156 root 1.1 [about having sponsoring message in YOUR syslog]
7157     From: Felix von Leitner <leitner@convergence.de>
7158     Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:33:13 +0100
7159     To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
7160    
7161     Thus spake Wojciech Puchar (wojtek@wojtek.from.pl):
7162     > > To view list of copyright holders type `copyright' at the shell
7163     > > prompt.
7164     > very good. maybe implement /proc/info/copyrights /proc/info/sponsors
7165     > /proc/info/authors?
7166 root 1.247
7167 root 1.1 Grand idea.
7168     Let's also add /proc/info/spammers,
7169     /proc/info/people-who-bothered-linus,
7170     /proc/info/people-who-disagree-with-hans-reiser,
7171     /proc/info/people-who-were-flamed-by-alan-cox and
7172     /proc/info/people-who-marc-lehmann-dislikes.
7173 root 1.247
7174 root 1.1 NOT.
7175     [...]
7176 root 1.387 %
7177 root 1.1 [Nick and I used to fight a LOT]
7178     Subject: Re: suggestion for gimp 1.3 and later
7179     From: Nick Lamb <njl98r@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
7180 root 1.247
7181 root 1.1 On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:29:41AM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
7182     > I think the best way would be to make any gtk label/text widget be
7183     > selectable. I don't know why this has not been done so far, but it might be
7184     > an interesting experiment.
7185 root 1.247
7186 root 1.1 Yes, I've often thought this. And everyone knows that if Marc and I agree
7187     about something it must be right (?) or at least it's in no-one's interest
7188     to disagree...
7189 root 1.387 %
7190 root 1.1 http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LNUX&d=2y WINNER
7191     http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RHAT&d=2y 2nd prize!
7192     http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CALD&d=1y 3rd prize!
7193     [und Lukas sagt:]
7194     ... man beachte die logarithmische Skala!
7195 root 1.387 %
7196 root 1.1 [from "how to photograph a total eclipse", in the nasa 1999 solar eclipse
7197     report:]
7198     ... The best strategy is to choose one aperture or f/number and bracket
7199     the exposures over a range of shutter speeds (i.e. 1/1000 down to 1
7200     second). Rehearsing this sequence is highly recommended since great
7201     excitment accompanies totality and there is little time to think.
7202 root 1.387 %
7203 root 1.1 [boy, now I know why I dislike GNOME]
7204     http://www.helixcode.com/~miguel/bongo-bong.html
7205 root 1.387 %
7206 root 1.1 ["kORBit, a CORBA implementation for the linux-kernel"]
7207     From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
7208     Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:34:39 +0100
7209    
7210     Alexander Viro wrote:
7211     > > It was just an example. Basically, you'd be able to do in with just
7212     > > about any language that has ORBit bindings.
7213     >
7214     > Yeah... "Infinitely extendable API" and all such. Roughly translated
7215     > as "we can't live without API bloat". Frankly, judging by the GNOME
7216     > codebase people who designed the thing are culturally incompatible with
7217     > UNIX.
7218    
7219     Agree. I remember a big complaint about Windows was the huge APIs,
7220     compared with Unix' tiny list of syscalls. And then I saw the GNOME
7221     docs... ew!
7222 root 1.387 %
7223 root 1.1 > Good question. The whole thing makes me nervous... in fact, perhaps we
7224     > should really consider using the BIOS INT 15h interrupt to enter
7225     > protected mode?
7226    
7227     From my experience with BIOS authors, only if Windows 98 uses the same function
7228     with the same arguments, the same stuff top of stack and the same segment
7229     registers loaded ;)
7230 root 1.387 %
7231 root 1.1 > > there... If someone wants to back-port the driver to 2.2, this makes it
7232     [...]
7233     > backports hurt forward progress.
7234    
7235     beware of content free dogma
7236 root 1.387 %
7237 root 1.1 > What operating systems use local time as their basic clock these days? Just
7238     > wondering.
7239    
7240     Any IBM PC compatible machine that runs under at least one Microsoft OS
7241     has to keep the battery-backed CMOS clock chip in local time, because
7242     unlike most other operating systems (e.g., any Unix flavour), none of
7243     Microsoft's CMOS clock drivers have a UTC option. Rather disappointing
7244     and every year an unneeded hassle after DST switches on multi-OS
7245     machines. From discussions with Microsoft staff, I have to conclude that
7246     no-one within Microsoft has even understood the problem.
7247    
7248     Markus [G. Kuhn]
7249 root 1.387 %
7250 root 1.1 >Keith,
7251 root 1.247 >
7252 root 1.1 >Please consider the attached patch for inclusion in all future versions
7253     >of the modutils depmod program for compatiblity with RedHat and
7254     >RedHat derived Linux distributions.
7255    
7256     I have a big problem with Redhat. They make incompatible changes to
7257     utilities, do not feed patches back to maintainers then expect the rest
7258     of the world to follow their lead. The -i and -m flags to modutils are
7259     not the only example, I recently found IA64 and Sparc patches they had
7260     added to modutils code and not bothered to tell me. Other distributors
7261     are much better about sending me patches, Debian and SuSe in particular
7262     do the right thing.
7263    
7264     Since "-F System.map" in modutils is equivalent to "-m System.map -i"
7265     and works on all distributions, not just Redhat, the "-m -i" patch is
7266     unnecessary. Consider this my protest against bad habits by
7267     distributors, they created the mess with their lack of communication
7268     and they have to fix it.
7269 root 1.387 %
7270 root 1.1 10:44] <JanMan> falls Du mal DB2 crashen musst:
7271     [10:45] <JanMan> connect reset;
7272     [10:45] <JanMan> connect to sample user db2admin using db2admin;
7273     [10:45] <JanMan> select * from employee where year(birthdate)=1999 and firstnme<'';
7274 root 1.387 %
7275 root 1.1 [a perl quine, by ilmari karonen:]
7276     printf+(q(printf+(q(%s))x2))x2
7277 root 1.387 %
7278 root 1.1 On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 07:22:34PM -0500, M&M Samsel wrote:
7279     > You see I have about 10 years of commercial development experience and
7280     > pretty much know business procedures from huge corporations and business
7281     > midgets and what I should expect or not.
7282    
7283     You've not demonstrated your 10 years of experience.
7284     You've just proved that killfiles are useful.
7285 root 1.387 %
7286 root 1.1 [once upon a time, when poul started gnomeicu:]
7287     gnomeicu: Rohrbruch (beim Speichern der Konfiguration)
7288 root 1.387 %
7289 root 1.1 [subject from a thread on the gcc steering commitee mailinglist when
7290     glibc-2.2 was released]
7291     Re: glibc 2.2 a fait accompli
7292 root 1.387 %
7293 root 1.1 [08:05] <JanMan> elmex: Fehlt Dir einmal Klopapier, versuche es mit GNU m4. :)
7294 root 1.387 %
7295 root 1.1 # root:0Ayj0AZhTi4O2:11272:0:99999:7:::
7296     # kma:1NXgYu6J80kvc:11225:0:99999:7:::
7297     # elmex:0ImdHgG2TEQAE:11273:0:99999:7: : :
7298 root 1.387 %
7299 root 1.1 <JanMan_> soll ich das ganze uber einen perl-hash erzeugen ?
7300     <schmorp> klar.. %hash->generate
7301     <JanMan_> oesi siedelt nach de: %oesi->degenerate
7302 root 1.387 %
7303 root 1.1 [From "How the mind of a php programmer works", by Marc Lehmann]
7304    
7305     (1) it works on msie 5 (alt.: netscape 4) so the code is
7306     standards-compliant.
7307     (2) an entity looks like "&" entityname ";"
7308     (2a) [conclusion] the fragment href="xxx&notes=77" doesn't contain a valid
7309     entity, so the browser must use it as is.
7310     (2b) [corollary] "<blubb>" is not a valid html element, so the browser
7311     must react according to what I assume it should do (display, ignore).
7312     (2c) in some programs I assume differently than in others.
7313 root 1.387 %
7314 root 1.1 [Oh no, Don Becker again ;)]
7315     > which one is the linksys card, so I have included the entire listing. (Is it
7316     > even listed? Perhaps this is my problem.)
7317    
7318     That's your problem.
7319    
7320     There is no PCI Ethernet device listed.
7321    
7322     Check that the card is fully inserted into the PCI slot.
7323     (If it's an ISA card, then it's not fully inserted into the PCI slot ;->)
7324 root 1.387 %
7325 root 1.1 > > sure request_module _does_not_ accept funky module names. Why allow
7326     > > people to shoot themselves (and, by extension, all other Linux users
7327     > > out there) in the foot?
7328    
7329     > I thought that was the whole purpose of Unix/Linux?
7330    
7331     True! Very true! Unix/Linux requires that the user shoot
7332     themselves in the foot. Windows automates that process and does it
7333     for the user, thus making foot shooting user friendly. :-)
7334 root 1.387 %
7335 root 1.1 > Turn on encryption, and try sending attachements > 1MB and tell me if
7336     > you see any problems, like emails sitting in /var/spool/mqueue for a day
7337     > or two until they go out. I can guarantee you will.
7338    
7339     No encryption use; and the maximal message size is 1Mb (for sanity's sake,
7340     after somebody sent a PowerPoint presentation (some 3Mb), then thought that
7341     perhaps the target didn't have PowerPoint, and sent it again with the
7342     PowerPoint package, then noticed this might not work either, and sent it
7343     _again_ with the full MS Office attached... the joys of sysadminning ;-)
7344     --
7345     Dr. Horst H. von Brand mailto:vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl
7346 root 1.387 %
7347 root 1.1 Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com> writes:
7348    
7349     > "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU> writes:
7350     >
7351     > > Arguably though the bug is in glibc, in that if it's using signals
7352     > > behinds the scenes, it should have passed SA_RESTART to sigaction.
7353     >
7354     > Why are you talking such a nonsense?
7355    
7356     [Note to self: remove kitten from keyboard before writing mail.]
7357 root 1.387 %
7358 root 1.388 [Simon Budig, nachdem er erfahren hatte, daß Lars Eilebrecht nicht wusste,
7359     daß Leerzeichen in URLs nicht erlaubt sind:]
7360     "Also, Lars, das hätte ich nicht gedacht, jetzt hast du aber jede Menge
7361 root 1.1 Gurupunkte bei mir verloren."
7362 root 1.387 %
7363 root 1.1 [amazon readers about the Annotated C Standard by Herberdt Schildt,
7364     which is much less expensive then the official version (search also for
7365     Bullschildt below ;)]
7366    
7367     "The price difference reflects the value of the annotations. At no time
7368     do the annotations clarify, enhance, or supplement the standard."
7369 root 1.387 %
7370 root 1.1 Stefan Traby wrote:
7371     >
7372     > On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 08:43:04AM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
7373     >
7374     > > We have a few websites floating around, [...]
7375     >
7376     > Many mirrors are also out of sync. Especially the primary server :)
7377 root 1.387 %
7378 root 1.1 > This happens with both ext2 and reiserfs, since at least 2.2.15.
7379    
7380     I installed noflushd on my laptop, which was running 2.4.0-test6, and
7381     it did the same thing.
7382    
7383     Sorry I can't offer more info. Someone spilt a glass of water on it about
7384     a week ago. :(
7385    
7386     --Jack
7387 root 1.387 %
7388 root 1.388 "Kalk hat diese Waschmaschine getötet"
7389 root 1.387 %
7390 root 1.1 [It is] best to confuse only one issue at a time.
7391     -- K&R
7392 root 1.387 %
7393 root 1.1 <elmex> JanMan: "||01:42:20|| <elmex> schmorp: jo, die sprache muss man nicht erklaeren"
7394 root 1.387 %
7395 root 1.1 [please kids, don't try this at home]
7396     indent -kr -l78 -lc78 -lps -i8 -br -pcs -psl -bbo -bad -bap -cs -nbc -nhnl -nss
7397 root 1.387 %
7398 root 1.1 http://www.attrition.org/gallery/ms/kmfms.jpg
7399 root 1.387 %
7400 root 1.1 [PApp.pm]
7401     $modules => { "" => "" };
7402 root 1.387 %
7403 root 1.388 Das einzig sichere Mittel gegen Migräne ist das Entfernen des Kopfes.
7404 root 1.387 %
7405 root 1.1 <JanMan> elmex: Sprichwort "Relaye doch bei dnx, dann kriegst Du nix." :)
7406 root 1.387 %
7407 root 1.1 [From Russel Coker's .sig]
7408     > --
7409     > If you can't program in C, PERL, and shell scripts then don't call yourself a
7410     > Unix administrator. Every idiot on the net is claiming to be a Unix admin. :(
7411 root 1.387 %
7412 root 1.1 [the two sides of the medal]
7413     From: "David Schwartz"
7414    
7415     > Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was increased from
7416     > 100 to 10000, the time to check for active sockets with poll()
7417     > increased by a factor of only 6.5. That's a sublinear increase in time,
7418     > pretty spiffy.
7419    
7420     Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was decreased from 10,000
7421     to 100, the time to check for active sockets with poll() decreased by a
7422     factor of only 6.5. Shouldn't it be more like 100? Sounds like Solaris' poll
7423     implementation is horribly broken for the most common case.
7424 root 1.387 %
7425 root 1.1 [lukas grunwald...]
7426 root 1.388 [ich sag' dir, ] ... am nächsten Tag brüllt der mich vielleicht per e-mail an ...
7427 root 1.387 %
7428 root 1.1 [from linux-kernel, about the rtl8139 network card]
7429     > (After looking at the specification for the 8139, I am acctually ashamed
7430     > of having bough one.
7431    
7432     Not an uncommon thought :)
7433 root 1.387 %
7434 root 1.1 From: Stefan Traby
7435    
7436     Hi Marc !
7437    
7438     keycode 115 = ISO_Next_Group
7439     keycode 116 = ISO_Prev_Group
7440     keycode 117 = ISO_Level3_Shift
7441    
7442     Finde ich witzig, man erspart sich den lock-screensaver :)
7443 root 1.387 %
7444 root 1.1 [I hope you get the point(s)...]
7445     From: Alex LIVINGSTON <alex@agsm.edu.au>
7446     Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:12:46 +1100
7447     To: <tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov>
7448    
7449     At 07:40 +0000 2000-10-06, ken@halcyon.com wrote:
7450     >But the thing is: mm/dd/yy[yy] is in widespread use (US), as is
7451     >dd/mm/yy[yy] (much of Europe, I'm told).
7452    
7453     Slight refinement: dd/mm/[yy]yy. Used in all European countries - and
7454     all countries colonized by a European country at one time or another
7455     which haven't had a strong US influence since, and probably all
7456     remaining Asian, African, and Pacific countries - that don't use
7457     [yy]yy-mm-dd. mm/dd/yy[yy] is restricted almost entirely to the US
7458     and a few neighbors. I would hesitate to say it is in widespread use.
7459    
7460     >[yy]yy-mm-dd was used
7461     >in Japan even before the ISO standard came out.
7462    
7463     And in China, and in Sweden, and in Hungary, ... (possibly with different
7464     separators). Also in the Arab world, in the sense that the digits (all of
7465     them) appear in the same order from left to right, only Arabic is written
7466     right to left.
7467    
7468     >But no culture
7469     >has ever used [yy]yy-dd-mm format, and there is absolutely
7470     >nothing to recommend it, so there is no reason to expect anyone
7471     >to adopt it. Yes, the perverse can use that format just to
7472     >confound us, but in practice one can safely assume that a
7473     >nnnn-nn-nn date is in yyyy-mm-dd format.
7474    
7475     Thanks Ken. You've put it much better and more concisely than I could have.
7476    
7477     --Alex
7478 root 1.387 %
7479 root 1.1 [recently, on the tulip driver mailing list]
7480     From: Donald Becker <becker@scyld.com>
7481     To: "Jon.Hinks" <Jon.Hinks@berkeley-ifa.co.uk>
7482    
7483     [most of the reply snipped...]
7484    
7485     > The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It
7486     > may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than this addressee, nor may
7487     > it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Berkeley
7488    
7489     [[ The rest of the boilerplate omitted. ]]
7490    
7491     These terms do not apply. You have mailed to a published list. You hold
7492     the copyright to your writings, but by submitting questions to the list you
7493     grant the list publisher (me) the right to publish in this list and related
7494     forums. "Related forums" may be collected archives of the list on any media,
7495     and quotes from questions in FAQs.
7496    
7497     (Long boilerplate appendages like this notice annoy me. Automatically
7498     attached copyright notices can never unilaterally extend your rights, so why
7499     try to claim that they do?)
7500 root 1.387 %
7501 root 1.1 On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Andre Hedrick wrote:
7502    
7503     > void go_take_a_dump (float load)
7504     > {
7505     > if (pull_down_pants() && purge_bowles() && wipe_anus() && pull_up_pants())
7506     > flush(load);
7507     > else
7508     > wear(load);
7509     > }
7510    
7511     But here you make another classic mistake. Consider the case where
7512     purge_bowels() fails (-EWOULDBLOCK?).
7513    
7514     In that case, you don't actually execute the subsequent two procedure
7515     calls, which I'm sure we all agree is a suboptimal state of affairs.
7516    
7517     --
7518     dwmw2
7519 root 1.387 %
7520 root 1.1 Factoid: 90% of all patents are never challenged, while 80% of those that
7521     are are overturned.
7522 root 1.387 %
7523 root 1.1 "Going into court is throwing the dice."
7524 root 1.387 %
7525 root 1.1 [Dipl. Ing. W******* D*******]
7526     "Lukas, eins muss dir klar sein, die ganze Kryptographie ist doch
7527 root 1.388 für den Arsch, wenn ich ein Stück von dem Originaltext habe und den
7528     verschlüsselten Text, knack' ich dir jeden Schlüssel in 50 Stunden."
7529 root 1.387 %
7530 root 1.1 [some discussion between reiserfs enthusiasts:]
7531     Stefan: oh shit, everything coredumps, I'll just reboot.
7532     Marc gives some dumb comments.
7533     Stefan: No, I'll first check it with reiserfsck.
7534     Marc: Yeah.. and?
7535     Stefan: "reiserfsck: no reiserfs found"
7536     Marc: Oh, the superblock is damaged. Maybe you should just try the backup superblock...
7537 root 1.387 %
7538 root 1.1 [t-online is just sooo cool:]
7539     Subject: mail failed, returning to sender
7540     From: <MAILER-DAEMON@fmrl01.sul.t-online.de>
7541    
7542     |------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------|
7543     <service@t-online.de> ... 550 Mailbox quota exceeded / Mailbox voll.
7544     |------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------|
7545 root 1.387 %
7546 root 1.1 [a play with a well-known-signature:]
7547     Deadlock, n.:
7548     Deceased Rasterman.
7549 root 1.387 %
7550 root 1.1 [Jeff Williams & friends]
7551     ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-bremen.de/pub/doc/internet-drafts/draft-terrell-ip-spec-ipv7-ipv8-addr-cls-00.txt
7552     http://IPv8.vrx.net/
7553     http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08030.html
7554 root 1.387 %
7555 root 1.1 [some .signature]
7556     This message has been ROT-13 encrypted twice for extra security.
7557 root 1.387 %
7558 root 1.1 [Andreas Mueller-Maghun for ICANN!]
7559     Allein der Kandidat des Chaos-Computer-Clubs (CCC) Hamburg, der schon
7560 root 1.388 mehr als 1.100 Unterstützungserklärungen erhalten hat, dürfte nach
7561     Einschätzung des arbeitskreises die Bedingung für eine Basiskandidatur
7562     zum ICANN-Direktorium schon jetzt erfüllen. Ausgerechnet er hat es aber
7563     nicht für nötig gehalten, auf die Anfrage der Behindertenvertreter zu
7564 root 1.1 reagieren. Seine Webseiten zeugen zudem von einem "Sicherheitskonzept",
7565     das Usern mit Sehbehinderung vor lauter technischen Barrieren keine
7566 root 1.388 Zugangsmöglichkeiten bietet. Der Arbeitskreis hält einen Vertreter solcher
7567     Positionen für unwählbar.
7568 root 1.1
7569     Jens Bertrams (Pressesprecher)
7570 root 1.387 %
7571 root 1.1 From: (Albert Y. C. Lai)
7572     Newsgroups: comp.lang.functional
7573     Subject: Re: what is "functional" (Re: Macros)
7574    
7575     Jerzy Karczmarczuk writes:
7576    
7577     > Their opinion: "well, *everybody* knows that this is not professional,
7578     > nobody uses functional languages, all your colleagues suggest that we
7579     > should learn Lex and Yacc, etc. -
7580     > but *WHAT A PLEASURE AND FUN* was to write these programs in Haskell.
7581     > Almost no run-time errors, ever!"
7582    
7583     A professor at my school got the opposite opinion from her students.
7584     She introduced ML (along with two other languages) as part of a course
7585     on the principles of programming languages in the third year. The
7586     students' opinion: this is such an annoyingly pedantic language, it
7587     refuses to let me run my program and get some partial though wrong
7588     results simply because I make a mistake!
7589    
7590     In other words, given that humans are bound to make mistakes, the
7591     students at my school prefer to see them manifested as run-time
7592     errors.
7593    
7594     So I look at your email address. Ah, you are in Europe and I am in
7595     North America. I guess that's why. Dijkstra is probably right about
7596     European programmers liking to do programming right and American
7597     programmers liking to chase after bugs.
7598 root 1.387 %
7599 root 1.1 On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:15:09PM +0200, Werner Almesberger wrote:
7600     > yodaiken@fsmlabs.com wrote:
7601     > > This call shifts delivered signal numbers up so that
7602     > > "special" POSIX signals [.. like KILL] can be delivered to a process.
7603     >
7604     > Kind of a SIGOVERKILL ... yes, that could work.
7605 root 1.387 %
7606 root 1.1 "The posix programmer knows the availability of everything, but the cost
7607     of nothing."
7608 root 1.387 %
7609 root 1.1 [after the linux-kernel list was moved to a new machine]
7610     Jeffrey Hundstad wrote:
7611     >
7612     > So tell us about this new machine. OS? Filesystem? Memory?
7613     > CPU?
7614    
7615     Root password? :)
7616    
7617     John.Fulmer
7618 root 1.387 %
7619 root 1.1 I think there is a world market for about five computers.
7620    
7621     Thomas J. Watson (Chairman, IBM) 1943
7622 root 1.387 %
7623 root 1.1 > NO. They can/will use RAW_IO *IF* this is available to them. If not, they
7624     > will have to provide a proper kernel driver for their hardware. I know
7625     > which I prefer...
7626    
7627     Sure. And keep that dusty 2.4.3 kernel around just in case you someday need
7628     to upgrade the firmware for your disk, and the (binary!) kernel module only
7629     works with that one. Don't forget the 2.4.15ac12 which is for your USB
7630     scanner, and also the 2.6.7-12 (Red Hat) which is the only one with the
7631     updater for the new SCSI controller.
7632     --
7633     Horst von Brand
7634 root 1.387 %
7635 root 1.1 [de.comp.lang.iso-c++]
7636    
7637     >Nicht alles was Standard ist, muss auch implementiert werden.
7638    
7639     [...]
7640    
7641     Nicht alles, was hinkt, ist ein Vergleich.
7642 root 1.387 %
7643 root 1.1 [Drew Sanford about why not to do real-time by throwing faster hardware
7644     at your problem:]
7645    
7646     The F4 Fantom fighter. The plane was essentially a large block of metal, with
7647     a few advantagously aerodynamic surfaces, and big f****** engines. If you
7648     had engine trouble in a Fantom ...you had trouble.
7649 root 1.387 %
7650 root 1.1 [Hans Reiser, on /bin/cp.. ;)]
7651     cp is inherently inefficient.
7652 root 1.387 %
7653 root 1.1 >I thought disk drives contained vacuums, thus the extensive concern over
7654     >breaking seals on them.
7655    
7656     Air pressure is 1Kg/cm^2. I have never seen a hard drive case that looked
7657     nearly strong enough to take such pressure. Basically if you can't jump on a
7658     hard drive then it's not strong enough!
7659    
7660     ...
7661    
7662     There's a story that Dave Cutler (VMS and WNT architect) when he was at DEC
7663     did a test on a DEC hard drive by blowing cigar smoke into the drive which
7664     killed it properly. DEC then greatly enhanced their drive air filters. It
7665     could be just an urban myth though.
7666    
7667     Russell Coker
7668 root 1.387 %
7669 root 1.1 >I've unsubscribed our somewhat less than intelligent friend.
7670     >Ah, Internet for the masses. What a wonderful idea.
7671    
7672     Yeah, let's have an IQ test before you're allowed to buy a modem.
7673 root 1.387 %
7674 root 1.1 On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 02:40:33PM +0200, Marc Lehmann wrote:
7675     > "Yury Yu. Rupasov" wrote:
7676     > > All my current benchmarks show that reiserfs works correctly on
7677     > > deleting.
7678     >
7679     > Just a sidenote: you don't test correctness with benchmarks :(
7680    
7681     Wrong. Yury does.
7682     :(
7683    
7684     --
7685     Stefan
7686 root 1.387 %
7687 root 1.1 "Jeff V. Merkey" writes:
7688     > I will provide a tool that decodes and repairs NTFS volumes to those
7689     > folks who run into this problem, but our agreements with Microsoft do
7690     > not allow us to distribute it for any purpose other than to assist
7691     > Microsoft customers who have corrupted drives. Also, this tool is
7692     > dependent on the DDK being present to run as it has dependencies on the
7693     > DDK DLL's, so you'll need to install the DDK to use it.
7694    
7695     DDK == "Disk Death Kit"?
7696    
7697     Ian Soboroff ian@cs.umbc.edu
7698 root 1.387 %
7699 root 1.1 [very instructional movie, if you get what I mean...]
7700 root 1.388 00:30-02:05 (13) ( -35) Kabel 1 Das Mädchen am Ende der Straße The
7701 root 1.1 Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane Psychodrama - KAN/F/USA - 1976 -
7702 root 1.388 Regie: Nicolas Gessner * Die 13-jährige Rynn (Jodie Foster) lebt allein in
7703     einer alten Villa und hütet ein schreckliches Geheimnis.
7704 root 1.387 %
7705 root 1.1 [Einsichten in die "Kommunikation"]
7706     > > > Ich beschreibe dir, was in dem Moment an Eindruecken durch meinen
7707     > > > Kopf geht - in dem Augenblick bin ich Besucher und sehe was
7708     > > > mir gefaellt oder nicht - das ist wie ein Schmierzettel. Die
7709     > > > Ausarbeitung der Ideen kommt danach im Gespraech. Du packst solche
7710     > > > Sachen anders an - das seh ich ein. Aber ich bin mit dieser
7711     > > > Art chaos bisher immer ans Ziel gekommen. Was ich mach will -
7712     > > > machen muss - ist Feedback generieren. Ich lass Versuchsballons
7713     > > > aufsteigen und schau zu, wie sie entweder fliegen oder abgeschossen
7714     > > > werden. Dann reagier ich auf das Ergebnis.
7715 root 1.387 %
7716 root 1.388 [Mitch, als Erklärung dafür, weshalb er blindlings ein (kaputtes) ssh-rpm
7717     installiert hat, das er über rpmfind gefunden hat:]
7718     Doch, echt! Der Server war trusted, der sah' ja sowas von vertrauenswürdig
7719 root 1.1 aus!
7720 root 1.387 %
7721 root 1.1 [IMHO one of the main reasons linux is nicer]
7722     http://www.cyberport.com/~tangent/ix/bsod-story.html
7723 root 1.387 %
7724 root 1.1 [On the reality of random numbers]
7725     > /dev in a world with dynamic hardware, so why bother? We only need
7726     > to provide random numbers to fill in struct stat. (zero works)
7727     Alan Cox [as usual ;)]
7728 root 1.387 %
7729 root 1.1 [Flame Warriors]
7730     http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
7731 root 1.387 %
7732 root 1.1 A programmer who hasn't been exposed to all four of the imperative,
7733     functional, objective, and logical programming styles has one or
7734     more conceptual blindspots. It's like knowing how to boil but not
7735     fry. Programming is not a skill one develops in five easy lessons.
7736    
7737     --tom
7738 root 1.387 %
7739 root 1.1 To: bugs@gimp.org
7740     X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 105
7741    
7742     Hi there, I recently downloaded your gimp toolkit. At first I was having
7743     problems until I read your download help tip. I understand I have to compile
7744     it so I tried using Borland C++ Compiler but it said the line length exceeds
7745     editor capacity. Is there any other compiler I can use that wouldn't rip a
7746     whole in my wallet. Thank you for your support.
7747 root 1.387 %
7748 root 1.1 ["General Information About Using VBScript with Outlook"]
7749     VBScript is designed to be a secure programming environment. It
7750     lacks various commands that can be potentially damaging if used in
7751     a malicious manner. This added security is critical in enterprise
7752     solutions.
7753    
7754     http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q167/1/38.ASP
7755    
7756     [Despite this "added security", however, VBscript still can modify,
7757     rename, delete files, modify windows registry entries and send email in
7758     the background]
7759 root 1.387 %
7760 root 1.1 [Phil Agre on the "ILOVEYOU" virus and Microsoft's reaction]
7761     Scott Culp of Microsoft Public Relations, excuse me, I mean Microsoft
7762     Security Response Center:
7763    
7764     This is a general issue, not a Microsoft issue. You can write a
7765     virus for any platform. (New York Times 5/5/00)
7766    
7767     [and later]
7768     Mr. Culp also says this (CNET 5/5/00):
7769    
7770     This is by-design behavior, not a security vulnerability.
7771    
7772     [Phil closes]
7773     Microsoft shouldn't be broken up. It should be shut down.
7774    
7775     [See also http://dlis.gseis.ucla.edu/people/pagre/rre.html]
7776     [and http://commons.somewhere.com/rre/2000/RRE.notes.and.recommenda6.html]
7777 root 1.387 %
7778 root 1.1 [Bruce Schneier about the "ILOVEYOU" virus]
7779     Expect even worse in the future. Systems running either Microsoft Office
7780     2000 or Internet Explorer 5.0 can be infected with these sorts of viruses
7781     even if the recipient doesn't open the attachment. That's right; if the
7782     system is running Internet Explorer with the default settings, it is
7783     vulnerable. The problem is caused by a programming bug in an Internet
7784     Explorer ActiveX control. Thank you, Microsoft.
7785 root 1.387 %
7786 root 1.1 >Reaching to Fallingbostel was extremely amusing though, germany is
7787     >splitted into two halfs, one that doesn't know Fallingbostel and one
7788     >that 'heard of this place but have no idea where it is' at some point I
7789     >was almost convinced that there is no such place :)
7790    
7791     [Trashey / Quasars]
7792 root 1.387 %
7793 root 1.1 Tom Christiansen writes:
7794     > I'm writing perlrtfm. It explains search techniques, not quickfix
7795     > switches plugging bursting dykes by springing more leaks.
7796    
7797     Irony potential in
7798    
7799     man perlrtfm
7800    
7801     is left to the reader.
7802    
7803     Nat
7804 root 1.387 %
7805 root 1.1 Do you plan to release support for on-the-fly file and directory compression
7806     and encryption as in NTFSv2?
7807    
7808     (Imagine a system that in order to run needs a diskette or CD-ROM disk with
7809     private key - protection never seen except in movies ;-)
7810 root 1.387 %
7811 root 1.1 [Telekom-Techniker, bei einer ISDN-UK0-Messung!]
7812     Ich: Also, einen Layer-1-Connect bekomme ich...
7813     Telekomiker: Layer-1? Was ist das? Aber ich bekomme ja auch gar kein Freizeichen...
7814 root 1.387 %
7815 root 1.1 "I love the way Microsoft follows standards. In much the
7816     same manner that fish follow migrating caribou."
7817     Paul Tomblin
7818 root 1.387 %
7819 root 1.1 [recently on p5p]
7820     >I am morally
7821     >convinced that map() was written based on grep()
7822    
7823     Considering they use the same op function, I'd say that's a distinct
7824     possibility...
7825    
7826     Dan
7827 root 1.387 %
7828 root 1.1 [after the "Welle Erdball" performance on the Mekka&Symposium 2000:]
7829 root 1.388 <jan> bine: du solltest da nicht hingucken, das ist nicht gut fürn kopf
7830 root 1.1 <Bordeaux> after listening to this crap, and hearing *zugabe zugabe* i finally have the proof that all german c64 sceners are gay :)
7831     <Mr> zugabe
7832 root 1.387 %
7833 root 1.1 "Why upon hearing his arguments I changed my opinion 360 degrees."
7834     Recent comment on the floor of some state legislature
7835 root 1.387 %
7836 root 1.1 DIVIDE EMPLOYEE-EARNINGS BY EMPLOYEE-HOURS GIVING EMPLOYEE-PAY-RATE
7837     [cobol, *sigh*]
7838 root 1.387 %
7839 root 1.1 It is expected that the Multics system will be published when it is
7840     operating substantially and will therefore be available for implementation
7841     on any equipment with suitable characteristics. Such publication is
7842     desirable for two reasons: First, the system should withstand public
7843     scrutiny and criticism volunteered by interested readers; second, in an
7844     age of increasing complexity, it is an obligation to present and future
7845     system designers to make the inner operating system as lucid as possible
7846     so as to reveal the basic system issues.
7847    
7848     Corbat_ & Vyssotsky 1965
7849 root 1.387 %
7850 root 1.1 "Rule #7: Silence is not acquiescence.
7851    
7852     "Contrary to what you may have heard, silence of those present is
7853     not necessarily consent, even the reluctant variety. They simply
7854     may sit in stunned silence and figure ways of sabotaging the plan
7855     after they regain their composure."
7856    
7857     -- Paul Rinaldo
7858     [see also http://people.qualcomm.com/karn/rinaldo.html]
7859 root 1.387 %
7860 root 1.1 On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 12:09:59AM +1000, Chris wrote:
7861     >
7862     > In case you guys havn't noticed...
7863     >
7864     > http://slashdot.org reports that XFS is now released.
7865    
7866     Yes, and http://www.freshmeat.net reports:
7867    
7868     Error: Unable to connect to MySQL Server ().
7869    
7870     ;-}
7871    
7872     --
7873    
7874     ciao -
7875     Stefan
7876    
7877 root 1.387 %
7878 root 1.1 > The 'hypervisor' is a new term to me.. Are you refering to the
7879     > Transmeta CPU and it's native mode? If I read you correctly
7880    
7881     No its what the S/390 VM is often called. Its a supervisor for supervisor
7882     mode programs so illogically enough its a hypervisor 8). The IBM mainframe
7883     guys thing this kind of set up is routine. Unix is met with
7884     'You mean you cant run a new kernel on test at the same time as the old
7885     one' type remarks.
7886     [Alan Cox]
7887 root 1.387 %
7888 root 1.1 Godwin's Law
7889    
7890     As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
7891     involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
7892    
7893     [see also http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/]
7894 root 1.387 %
7895 root 1.1 ["Stefan im IRC."]
7896    
7897     [01:53:07] <coda> anyone know how to get emacs to stop creating the file.name~ files?
7898     [01:53:24] <JanMan> alias emacs=vi
7899     [01:53:31] <coda> haha
7900 root 1.387 %
7901 root 1.1 [remaining problems with OpenBIOS]
7902     Our SDRAM sizing and init code is not very good; we could use good code.
7903     The code we've been offered so far requires memory to work (oops!);
7904     requires a stack (oops!); or assumes a totally configured machine (oops!).
7905 root 1.387 %
7906 root 1.1 [Alan Cox on wether special fs's should have require "//" in their path]
7907     > No :-) It's a feature. Some things are going REAL ugly without such things.
7908    
7909     Given //ipc or freebsd, I think I'd pick freebsd. Thats how ugly the idea
7910     is to me ok.
7911 root 1.387 %
7912 root 1.1 "The code is self documenting." -- The Programmer.
7913    
7914     "I don't read C." -- The Tech Writer.
7915 root 1.387 %
7916 root 1.1 [Stefan Sebolth, on the CeBIT, while listening to the original c64 "Giana Sisters" tune:]
7917     Haaach, da war die Welt halt noch in Ordnung!
7918 root 1.387 %
7919 root 1.1 Remember, never ask a geek "why";
7920     just nod your head and back away slowly...
7921 root 1.387 %
7922 root 1.1 The thought of implementing something like text and binary modes for
7923     files is a about a frightening for todays kernel developer's as a mouse
7924     to a women in a typical movie of the 50's ;-)
7925    
7926     Ralf
7927 root 1.387 %
7928 root 1.1 It may be real, but it's icky. It's too traditional Unix ``I don't
7929     care if we lose 90% of our market base to NT if our competitor loses
7930     95% of THEIR market base!'' to be palatable.
7931    
7932     david parsons
7933 root 1.387 %
7934 root 1.1 ["some time ago on p5p"]
7935     > ($host) = gethostbyname('localhost');
7936    
7937     >Sadly most UNIX boxes don't add a sane alias to their /etc/hosts file
7938     >so that trick is not portable.
7939    
7940     % grep localhost /etc/hosts
7941     127.0.0.1 localhost
7942    
7943     --tom
7944 root 1.387 %
7945 root 1.1 ["some time ago on p5p"]
7946     On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:22:05PM -0700, Tom Christiansen wrote:
7947     > >But given that most slip drivers I have seen for OS/2 do not do this,
7948     > >the question is moot.
7949     >
7950     > I'll send you a free Unix system.
7951    
7952     Thanks, the doors in my house are well-balanced. ;-)
7953    
7954     Ilya
7955 root 1.387 %
7956 root 1.1 [Elliott H Mitchell on the reiserfs list]
7957     > Me thinks if unwillingness to use tar over dump will stop you from
7958     > using a better filesystem there will be lots of other reasons that
7959     > will stop you from trying anything new too. So it is not really worth
7960     > trying.
7961    
7962     Yeah, if a filesystem randomly lost files and the authors had no plans to
7963     fix it, that would kind discourage one from using it...
7964 root 1.387 %
7965 root 1.1 [Russel Coker on the reiserfs list]
7966     ... my old Thinkpad 380XD (Pentium-233 with 3.2G ide hard drive) running
7967     ReiserFS and exporting the file system over 10baseT Ethernet could
7968     outperform local hard drives on an AIX machine running JFS.
7969 root 1.387 %
7970 root 1.1 [Peter Mattis, author of GIMP]
7971     I can't say anything about Rasterman because I've never looked at any of
7972     his code. My only comment about Raster is that he should learn to spell.
7973 root 1.387 %
7974 root 1.1 [David Schwartz on linux-kernel]
7975     > ORBS does not do ANYTHING above try to send few LEGAL
7976     > strings to mailservers with LONG delays. So if you block ORBS you deserve
7977     > blocking :-)
7978    
7979     That's not the point. The point is that ORBS claims to be a list of
7980     validated open mail relays, and it's not. It's not supposed to be a list of
7981     people who deserve anything in particular. I'm sure if you talk to the
7982     people who have chosen to block ORBS, you will find that they have their
7983     reasons.
7984    
7985     DS
7986 root 1.387 %
7987 root 1.1 [WDR, 19991216 Fernsehen mit Manuel]
7988 root 1.388 Es ist ein Fall bekannt, bei dem sich ein Patient über ein Jahr lang
7989 root 1.1 geweigert hatte, auf die Toilette zu gehen. Dann haben seine Verwandten
7990 root 1.388 und Ärzte ihn dazu überreden können, endlich die Toilette aufzusuchen. Er
7991 root 1.1 hat dabei auf einmal 37 Liter entleert.
7992    
7993     Danach lebte er noch ganz normal einige Jahre, bis er, wie in Amerika
7994 root 1.388 üblich, erschossen wurde.
7995 root 1.387 %
7996 root 1.1 > - My Maxtor 27G drive ends up in PIO mode (non-SMP system, but likely
7997     [...]
7998     > Last time I reported this, I had a WDC31600, as hda, and the maxtor as
7999     [...]
8000    
8001     You committed a mortal sin in ATA............
8002     You never ever mix WD and Maxtor..........on day I will document why.
8003     Basically these two vendors have timings that are completely incompatable
8004     with each other on the same channel.
8005    
8006     IMHO, WD is crap..........however, you may split the two pieces of
8007     hardware and they will work fine under linux and all other OS's.
8008    
8009     This rule of "never ever mix WD and Maxtor" is OS independent.
8010 root 1.387 %
8011 root 1.1 [ALF2-Benutzerhandbuch]
8012     "Nur eine tote Festplatte ist eine sichere Festplatte."
8013 root 1.387 %
8014 root 1.1 Physicists write FORTRAN in any language.
8015 root 1.387 %
8016 root 1.1 [OpenBOOT 3.10.6 response to pressing "Ctrl-Alt-Del":]
8017     ANY word at all is a candidate.
8018     USE words to see the entire dictionary.
8019     ok
8020 root 1.387 %
8021 root 1.1 [SDF for POD Users]
8022     ... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - even Lisp has it's fans. :-)
8023 root 1.387 %
8024 root 1.1 <Xach> schmorp: i haven't been doing any gimpy things lately
8025     <schmorp> xach: well, who is doing gimpy things lately :(
8026     <Xach> schmorp: Mitch
8027     <schmorp> xach: ok.
8028     <Xach> schmorp: you are not keeping pace with the other germans
8029     <Xach> schmorp: you must work more diligently! FOCUS!! DON'T TALK!!
8030     <Xach> burrito, focus
8031     <Burrito> FOCUS you BABOON!
8032 root 1.387 %
8033 root 1.1 [Paul Miller]
8034     ... I find Knuth's attitude to be far more logical: "Be careful about
8035     using the following code -- I've only proven that it works, I haven't
8036     tested it." ...
8037 root 1.387 %
8038 root 1.1 Intel Inside -- Idiot Outside!
8039 root 1.387 %
8040 root 1.1 Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
8041    
8042     Bart Lateur wrote in message <383a4712.942513@news.skynet.be>...
8043     >Petrus Prawirodidjojo wrote:
8044     >
8045     >>So we must compete with Windows CE.
8046     >
8047     >"Please wait while your Toaster shuts down."
8048     >
8049     >"My microwave oven hangs, I have to reboot."
8050     >
8051     >No thank you. :-) I don't think Microsoft somehow can "automatically" be
8052     >the most obvious choice as a supplier of system software for embedded
8053     >systems.
8054    
8055    
8056     Quite so. Windows CE is rapidly losing what small market share they once
8057     had.
8058    
8059     --
8060     Neal Bridges
8061 root 1.387 %
8062 root 1.1 On 27 Nov 1999, sanjay Kumar wrote:
8063    
8064     > Hi folks,
8065     > i got some problem in using linux.When segmentation fault happens four five times continously OS is not working properly,insted of I remove the core dump and core dump bug ,Why?
8066     > please reply to
8067     > sanjay_rect@rediffmail.com
8068     > and sigma_btl@vsnl.com
8069    
8070     Parse error.
8071    
8072     ---
8073     Alex
8074 root 1.387 %
8075 root 1.1 From: Richard Earnshaw <rearnsha@arm.com>
8076    
8077     > Why do we really need to support compiling with -ansi when
8078     > including a non-ANSI header file in a C program?
8079    
8080     Because some vendors wouldn't recognize a C standard it if hit them. The
8081     amount of code that purports to be ANSI C code, but is in fact nothing of
8082     the sort, has to be seen to be believed.
8083    
8084     That doesn't mean that I don't want *my* program to be clean ANSI C.
8085 root 1.387 %
8086 root 1.1 [one of the few good us movies]
8087 root 1.388 Talk Radio Mediendrama - USA - 1988 - Regie: Oliver Stone * Sein Zynismus wird dem Radiomoderator Barry zum Verhängnis.
8088 root 1.387 %
8089 root 1.1 [guess the language AND the language revision ;)]
8090     ii = 44;
8091     p = &ii;
8092     *p = ii/*p;
8093     ii++; /* Don't forget to increment ii. */
8094     printf ( "ii = %d\n", *p );
8095 root 1.387 %
8096 root 1.1 > But many systems set the RTC while running Win*ooze. That will affect
8097     > Linux time then.
8098    
8099     Here is another microsoft Innovation (TM):
8100    
8101     They now allow you to run your BIOS-clock in UTC! (Just like
8102     Linux. Woops. Just gave it away...)
8103    
8104     Roger.
8105 root 1.387 %
8106 root 1.1 <Tommer> schmorp, for the next trick, do <frameset> <frame src=dataurl:> <frame src=dataurl:> </frameset> :)
8107 root 1.387 %
8108 root 1.1 auto accident;
8109     register voters;
8110     static electricity;
8111     struct by_lightning;
8112     void *where_prohibited;
8113     char broiled;
8114     short circuit;
8115     short changed;
8116     long johns;
8117     unsigned long letter;
8118     double entendre;
8119     double trouble;
8120     union organizer;
8121     float valve;
8122     short pants;
8123     union station;
8124     void check; unsigned check;
8125     struct dumb by[sizeof member];
8126 root 1.387 %
8127 root 1.1 [I like TV Movie's nexTView comments]
8128     22:40-00:05 (21) ( -34) ARD Mord auf hoher See Inflammable Thriller - USA
8129     - 1995 - Regie: Peter Werner * Stephen King
8130 root 1.388 verhunzt als Regisseur sein Buch im großen Stil.
8131 root 1.387 %
8132 root 1.1 Carmen Lucia Tancredo Borges wrote:
8133    
8134     I have a program written in Fortran that runs on an IBM RS/6000
8135     worstation.
8136 root 1.387 %
8137 root 1.1 I wrote
8138     > I hope not. chomp() should match the string in $?, no more or less.
8139     $/
8140    
8141     Damn shift key.
8142    
8143    
8144     Mike Guy
8145 root 1.387 %
8146 root 1.1 [rfc2635]
8147     The term "spam" as it is used to denote mass unsolicited mailings or
8148     netnews postings is derived from a Monty Python sketch set in a
8149     movie/tv studio cafeteria. During that sketch, the word "spam" takes
8150     over each item offered on the menu until the entire dialogue consists
8151     of nothing but "spam spam spam spam spam spam and spam." This so
8152     closely resembles what happens when mass unsolicited mail and posts
8153     take over mailing lists and netnews groups that the term has been
8154     pushed into common usage in the Internet community.
8155 root 1.387 %
8156 root 1.1 [CRYPTO-GRAM, November 15, 1999]
8157    
8158     The Doghouse: Microsoft Windows CE
8159    
8160     Microsoft encrypts your Windows NT password when stored on a Windows CE
8161     device. But if you look carefully at their encryption algorithm, they
8162     simply XOR the password with "susageP", Pegasus spelled backwards. Pegasus
8163     is the code name of Windows CE. This is so pathetic it's staggering.
8164    
8165     http://www.cegadgets.com/artsusageP.htm
8166 root 1.387 %
8167 root 1.1 : Isn't the point that (void)'grep EXPR, LIST' is now better written as
8168     : 'EXPR for LIST'? Or am I misunderstanding your point here?
8169    
8170     It really doesn't bother me if people want to use grep or map in a void
8171     context. It didn't bother me before there was a for modifier, and
8172     now that there is one, it still doesn't bother me. I'm just not very
8173     easy to bother.
8174    
8175     The argument against using an operator for other than its primary
8176     purpose strikes me the same as the old argument that you shouldn't have
8177     sex for other than procreational purposes. Sometimes side effects
8178     are more enjoyable than the originally intended effect.
8179    
8180     That being said, I'd never grep someone in a void context myself.
8181    
8182     Larry
8183 root 1.387 %
8184 root 1.1 [that one's only for insiders...]
8185     > : BASE @ . \ = 10, verified original base was restored
8186     Yeah. :-)
8187 root 1.387 %
8188 root 1.1 [comp.lang.forth]
8189     > Old Antactic Explorers Penguin Recipe:
8190     [...]
8191     > Start fire under pot, raise seawater to boiling point.
8192    
8193     Since it is very difficult to find wood on Antarctica, typically
8194     penguins are used to light the fire (due to their fat, they burn well).
8195     I also woudln't use any water, the penguins are fried fine in their own
8196     fat (you can use old fat to heat up the pot for another penguin).
8197    
8198     Note that most people in Antarctica have been seal-slayers and
8199     whale-killers, so they were rough people. Usually, they didn't bother
8200     with killing the penguins before setting them on fire. I'm glad this
8201     receipts aren't used anymore.
8202 root 1.387 %
8203 root 1.1 Sie muessen einen PC nicht einschalten um herauszufinden ob Windows
8204     installiert ist. Sehen Sie einfach nach, ob die Aufschrift auf der
8205     Reset-Taste noch lesbar ist.
8206 root 1.387 %
8207 root 1.1 > Erinnert mich an den Kerl bei mir in der Videothek. Hab mir DHY ausgeliehen
8208     > und er sagt doch zu mir: "Ist aber mit Untertiteln." Sag ich: "Na prima!"
8209     > Fragt er: "Wieso, was ist denn daran so interessant, wenn man nichts
8210     > versteht?"
8211 root 1.387 %
8212 root 1.1 [de.alt.anime]
8213     Bei meiner Videothek fliegt ein "Ghost in the Shell" Tape
8214     "Ab18" rum. Das machte mich irgendwie stutzig weil auf
8215     der Schachtel meiner 16er zwei Szenenfotos sind, die im
8216 root 1.388 Film gar nicht vorkommen (ironischer Weise direkt über
8217 root 1.1 dem "Uncut & Unzesored" Schildchen). Andererseits ist
8218 root 1.388 mir völlig schleierhaft, was es bei dem Filmchen zu zensieren
8219 root 1.1 geben soll. Nur die oben beschriebene Feststellung hat diese
8220     Frage erneut aufgeworfen.
8221     ji!
8222 root 1.387 %
8223 root 1.1 I do worry about syntactic clutter, ever since my daughter came
8224     in, looked over my shoulder, and said, "What is that, swearing?"
8225     [Larry Wall]
8226 root 1.387 %
8227 root 1.1 Der letzte untergegangene altisraelitische Stamm war der der
8228     Altpreussen.
8229     - Norbert Marzahn am 15.8.98 in
8230     de.soc.politik.deutschland
8231 root 1.387 %
8232 root 1.1 > > Aber die Theorien, die Norbert aufstellt, ueber zum Beispiel die
8233     > > gegossenen Steinformen, die sich hochdruecken, den fuerchterlichen
8234     > > Kometen, der im vergangenen August die Erde zerstoert hat und solche
8235     > > Sachen find ich wirklich Klasse ;-)
8236     >
8237 root 1.388 > Jau. Und erstmal seine Erklärungsversuche, wenn's mal wieder nichts
8238     > geworden ist (wo bleibt eigentlich der Planet X, der während der
8239 root 1.1 > Syonnenfinsternis auftauchen sollte?)...
8240    
8241 root 1.388 Drei Tage Dunkelheit und viele Trümmerteile sollte er bringen, gell,
8242 root 1.1 Norbert?
8243 root 1.387 %
8244 root 1.208 Marzahnismen: http://www.bruhaha.de/normarz.html
8245 root 1.1 Norbert Marzahn sagt: Ich besitze die Mittel, um
8246     "Rechts"- und "Links"-Radikalismus auszuloeschen.
8247 root 1.387 %
8248 root 1.1 http://welcome.to/levitenbuero/
8249 root 1.387 %
8250 root 1.1 <Xach> babelfish.pitney.org: "We may not get it right, but boy are we fast!"
8251 root 1.387 %
8252 root 1.1 Subject: GNU compiler
8253     From: "Steve"
8254     Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:05:03 -0400
8255     To: <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
8256     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0
8257    
8258     [the following was a single line, of course]
8259     I downloaded the compiler and am trying to install it and the
8260     instructions seem to be very complicated. Can you help me understand
8261     how to install them? There is no setup file and I have downloaded from
8262     several sites in the thought that I might have the wrong version. Your
8263     assistance would be greatly appreciated
8264    
8265     Thanks,
8266    
8267     Steve
8268 root 1.387 %
8269 root 1.1 [an "I am doing high end graphic design" type of person:]
8270     > Also, could someone tell me how to calculate DPI of an image? I have not
8271     > managed to figure this DPI system out, for example, if an image is a
8272     > 100?50 pixels, what's the DPI??
8273 root 1.387 %
8274 root 1.1 <tigert> xachbot, op
8275     <XachBot> tigert: I have an 88 magnum. It shoots through schools.
8276     <tigert> ahem
8277 root 1.387 %
8278 root 1.1 <tc> xachbot, acro FOOBAR
8279     -XachBot:#gimp- FOOBAR: FTP Operation Over Big Address Records | See FUBAR [Net jargon] (cached)
8280     <tc> just when you thought you had something to baffle xachbot
8281 root 1.387 %
8282 root 1.1 [the release of perl 5.000]
8283     Date: Mon, 17 Oct 94 16:48:04 -0700
8284     From: Larry Wall <lwall@scalpel.netlabs.com>
8285     Subject: It's soup.
8286    
8287     Okay, it's there.
8288    
8289     ftp://ftp.netlabs.com/pub/outgoing/perl5.0/perl5.000.tar.gz
8290    
8291     The first one who tells me about a bug in it gets shot.
8292    
8293     Larry
8294 root 1.387 %
8295 root 1.1 l33+ h4X0rz
8296 root 1.387 %
8297 root 1.1 # A random text generator using Markov chains
8298     perl -e 'while(<>){$f.= $_}@l=split(/\s+/, $f);for($i=0;$i<@l-1;$i++){$W{$l[$i]
8299     }.=" ".$l[$i+1];}sub a{$w=$l[1]}&a;sub b{print "\n"}while($w){if(!($W{$w})){&b;
8300     &b;&a;last if ($q++>3);}print"$w ";@p=split(/ /,$W{$w});$c=@p;until($s=int(rand
8301     ($c))){1}$w=$p[$s]}&b' big_text_file
8302 root 1.387 %
8303 root 1.1 > && d'oh! i knew that! can she allow her lusers to use deja? here is the url
8304     > && for the post with the whole description of how i used -P
8305     >
8306     > Well, access to deja isn't forbidden, but access to the keyboard is.
8307     > And there's no mouse.
8308     >
8309     > Abigail
8310    
8311     Wow. Someone else who reads usenet by osmosis... cool.
8312    
8313     Matt.
8314 root 1.387 %
8315 root 1.1 Ok, our threads aren't so bad. Python's have one big
8316     giant global interpreter lock. :-)
8317    
8318     - --tom
8319 root 1.387 %
8320 root 1.1 From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
8321     Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:42:19 -0700 (PDT)
8322    
8323     On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Hubert Mantel wrote:
8324     >
8325     > So the huge ISDN update in proposed-2.2.11 will be removed from the final
8326     > 2.2.11 release?
8327    
8328     [ Irritated mode: FULL BLAST ]
8329    
8330     Are you being stupid on purpose, or were you born that way?
8331    
8332     Go back and read the thread. Read why I'm irritated. READ. THINK.
8333 root 1.387 %
8334 root 1.1 Understanding is a three edged sword. Do you *want* to get the point?
8335 root 1.387 %
8336 root 1.1 ["MVS uses quite heavy algorithms for swapping"]
8337     On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 07:55:32PM +0200, Lieven Marchand wrote:
8338     > Last time I looked at it, it got to the point they had moved some
8339     > ASSISTs into microcode. IIRC, some manipulations of the process
8340     > block. I doubt Intel/Sun/MIPS/IBM is going to accomodate Linux quite
8341     > that much ;-)
8342    
8343     IBM is really really good on process technology. They have had to be.
8344 root 1.387 %
8345 root 1.1 MVS spends a lot of time running OS algorithms to allow full
8346     preemption that Linux wastes on running user applications.
8347 root 1.387 %
8348 root 1.1 [comments on the gcc-2.95 release]
8349     <QUOTE>
8350     I'm having problems compiling it for HP-UX 10.20. Any ideas?
8351    
8352     (I haven't actually finished downloading it yet, but I just know I'm
8353     gonna have problems with this crappy OS ;-)
8354     </QUOTE>
8355 root 1.387 %
8356 root 1.1 The Internet interprets Windows as damage,
8357     and routes around it.
8358    
8359     Roger Larsson
8360 root 1.388 Skellefteå
8361 root 1.387 %
8362 root 1.1 [configuring gcc]
8363     Noone should use --prefix=/usr without --with-local-prefix=/usr/local
8364 root 1.387 %
8365 root 1.1 'You can solve any programming problem with another level of indirection,
8366     except the problem of too many levels of indirection.'
8367 root 1.387 %
8368 root 1.1 [http://www.itknowledge.com/tpj/issues/vol4_1/tpj0401-0015.html]
8369    
8370     Z-code interpreters have also been written in Java; unfortunately, when it
8371     comes to cross-platform compatibility, Java's user-interface classes are
8372     finicky and unstable--just ask anyone who's tried to reason with the AWT
8373     on different JVMs.
8374    
8375     [and later]
8376    
8377     Pilfer is a practical implementation of two of the cardinal rules of
8378     adventure gaming:
8379    
8380     1.Anything that is not nailed down is mine.
8381     2.Anything that I can pry loose is not nailed down.
8382 root 1.387 %
8383 root 1.1 [the ||-operator can be thought of as "or", && can be thought of as
8384     "and", but how would you call the ??-operator?]
8385    
8386     >>>>> "NK" == Nathan Kurz <nate@valleytel.net> writes:
8387    
8388     NK> ?? -> huh?
8389    
8390     That's a great name. The huh? operator.
8391    
8392     <chaim>
8393 root 1.387 %
8394 root 1.1 `One of the reasons we continue to use Fortran is that it's easier to fix
8395     code written without attention to such details in Fortran than in other
8396     languages. To put it another way, Fortran is the only language where
8397     people who barely get by with their numerical skills can "write useful
8398     numerical code." Many times those people are the only experts in their
8399     specialty available to put a needed procedure into practice.'
8400 root 1.387 %
8401 root 1.1 [Moderator der Sending "Teatime" auf "Radio Okerwelle", 1999-07-12]
8402 root 1.388 Ich muß schließlich hören was ich sage, damit ich weiß, was ich denke.
8403 root 1.387 %
8404 root 1.1 [Dr. Dobbs #8, 1999, describing how you can AVOID downloading or executing
8405     Java applets, scripts and ActiveX controls while _parsing_(!) an html
8406     page]
8407     ... you must utilize IOleControl::OnAmbientPropertyChange with the
8408     value DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Before you can do this, however, you
8409     must call IOleObject::SetClientSite so that IOleControl will work
8410     properly. This is the reason you derive from IOleClientSite, even
8411     though you don't extend its functionality in any way. After the call to
8412     OnAmbientPropertyChange, IE4 will call your Invoke method to check the
8413     value of DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Invoke simply sets the correct bits to
8414     disable the behaviour you don't want and returns NOERROR.
8415     [Still interested in knowing how you can disable the "file not found"
8416     dialog box that will pop up when you try to parse a non-accessible file?]
8417 root 1.387 %
8418 root 1.1 [Linus, whom I quote rarely ;-]
8419     Message passing as the fundamental operation of the OS is just an
8420     excercise in computer science masturbation. It may feel good, but you
8421     don't actually get anything DONE.
8422 root 1.387 %
8423 root 1.1 Advantages of Windows NT over Linux:
8424     * It's easier to explain the crash was not your fault.
8425     * You've to remember only one solution all to your problems: Reboot.
8426     * You can use your mouse to type an email-message.
8427 root 1.387 %
8428 root 1.1 > 1) On the PIII, there is the capability to get a system unique serial
8429     > number from the CPU. Does Linux read this data already? Is there plans to
8430     > read the serial number and then disable the capability (maybe so you could
8431     > get the serial number from the OS)?
8432    
8433     Current Linux disables it and doesn't save the value.
8434 root 1.387 %
8435 root 1.1 [CRYPTO-GRAM 1999-06-15]
8436     "Microsoft set the security state-of-the-art back 25 years with DOS, and
8437     they have continued that legacy to this day."
8438 root 1.387 %
8439 root 1.1 [From "The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature", by Thomas Scoville]
8440     "In a world increasingly dominated by image culture (TV, movies, .jpg
8441     files), UNIX remains rooted in the culture of the word."
8442 root 1.387 %
8443 root 1.1 > If it is clearly documented that will not happen.
8444    
8445     Yeah, sure. Unfortunately, if the "correct" treatment of this feature
8446     means to change a dozen source files (and rth's comments make me fear
8447     that that's the case), the chance that someone, somewhere forgets to say
8448     exactly why these changes were necessary (and on what other changes in
8449     other files they depend) is far larger than I want to consider. We've
8450     seen this before. Lucky we are that some long time gcc-hackers are
8451     still among us, who might remark: Oh yes, that's undefined by the C
8452     Standard, but it happens to be an extension gcc supports ... Seen that,
8453     got the T-shirt.
8454 root 1.387 %
8455 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8456     From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
8457     Date: Fri, 4 Jun 99 10:00:16 PDT
8458     To: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
8459     Cc: craig@jcb-sc.com, jbuck@Synopsys.COM, mark@codesourcery.com,
8460     davem@redhat.com, chip@perlsupport.com, egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
8461     X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
8462    
8463     Linus writes, to Craig:
8464    
8465     > I haven't maintained a compiler long-term. I _have_ maintained a larger,
8466     > and arguably mode complex system with many more degrees of freedom and
8467     > thus choices than gcc.
8468    
8469     No, gcc is substantially larger than the Linux kernel (on the order of 10x
8470     larger, as anyone can easily verify). gcc does not need to deal with race
8471     conditions, so in that sense it is simpler, but in other respects it is
8472     far more complex than the kernel.
8473    
8474     [NOTE for the reader: this is not really true, as the device drivers
8475     bomb the comparison away, but the complexity argument still holds]
8476    
8477     [ personal insults deleted, perhaps the author is in need of a vacation ]
8478 root 1.387 %
8479 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8480     From: craig@jcb-sc.com
8481     To: torvalds@transmeta.com
8482    
8483     >I want the _user_ to be able to give input.
8484     [...]
8485     >I happen to think that the "explicit cast invalidates the alias
8486     >information" rule is the simplest and best one, and gives the user the
8487     >best control without adding things like new attributes or other ways to
8488     >let the user be in control.
8489    
8490     In other words, you believe you are a better language designer than
8491     the ISO C people as well as the gcc maintainers, despite the fact
8492     that you know, what, *nothing* about language design, and *nothing*
8493     about compiler design and, especially, long-term maintenance of
8494     compilers?
8495 root 1.387 %
8496 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8497     From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
8498    
8499     Linus writes:
8500     > Oh, you don't expect me to complain about bad code generation when I know
8501     > gcc could do better?
8502    
8503     Oh, don't worry, we expect you to complain, and in a rude and insulting
8504     matter at that. We're used to it. It seems that you were a nicer guy
8505     before you had so many worshippers.
8506 root 1.387 %
8507 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
8508     From: Branko Cibej <branko.cibej@hermes.si>
8509     Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:07:09 +0200
8510     To: egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
8511     X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I)
8512    
8513     Linus Torvalds wrote:
8514    
8515     > I think it's a damn shame that instead of technical arguments _everything_
8516     > revolves around people reading the standard as if it was the bible, and
8517     > trying to make people feel guilty for not really caring. It's not a sin to
8518     > just want to get good code without having to do magic contortions, guys.
8519    
8520     Why, Linus, it's trivial to do! Use MSVC instead of egcs, then you can do
8521    
8522     #pragma optimize("a", on/off)
8523    
8524     around every single statement, if you like. It even supports anonymous unions
8525     _and_ structs, and is only slightly influenced by the ISO C standard.
8526    
8527     They'll even sell you a version that can generate code for the alpha!
8528    
8529     >:->
8530    
8531     Brane
8532    
8533    
8534     P.S.: Just for the record: I, a "real user" and (imnsho) a "clever programmer"
8535     who "know what I'm doing", at least most of the time, and who do not "read the
8536     standard as if it were a bible", vote for having a standard-conforming
8537     compiler that's not bloated by a ton of marginally useful (or even useless)
8538     features. If I want featuritis, I know where I can get it.
8539    
8540    
8541     P.P.S: They can't even spell "optimise" ...
8542 root 1.387 %
8543 root 1.1 You can have it Soon, Cheap, and Working; choose *two*
8544 root 1.387 %
8545 root 1.1 "Scientific" studies have found that a 2.2.x Linux router with
8546     fast-switching enabled, using Tulip 100baseT cards, can melt a
8547     high-end Cisco's 100baseT interfaces.
8548 root 1.387 %
8549 root 1.1 1) Thread switching is faster than process switching by a little bit on Linux
8550     2) Process switching on linux is faster than thread switching on NT
8551     3) Almost anything is faster than process switching on NT
8552 root 1.387 %
8553 root 1.1 [gimp-developers, on the use of keyboard modifiers for drawing tools]
8554    
8555     > Simple. Powerful. Fast. Choose at most two.
8556    
8557     Perhaps this should be an option in the preferences dialog? :)
8558 root 1.387 %
8559 root 1.1 [perl is cryptic??]
8560     Subject: @{$${->{{{{~{}~{{{NO CARRIER
8561     From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@iki.fi>
8562     Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:55:37 +0300 (EET DST)
8563    
8564     We have still a long way to go-- from the zsh-workers mailing list:
8565    
8566     : Just thought of a trivial way to take a lot of grief out of parameter
8567     : substitution. This patch makes the following valid:
8568     :
8569     : ${${${${(f)"$(typeset)"}:#*local *\=*}%%\=*}##* }
8570     :
8571     : replacing the equivalent but grotesquer
8572     :
8573     : "${(@)${(@)${(@)${(@f)$(typeset)}:#*local *\=*}%%\=*}##* }"
8574 root 1.387 %
8575 root 1.1 Long noun chains don't automatically imply security. - Bruce Schneier
8576 root 1.387 %
8577 root 1.1 > |> Spoken as a true C programmer. However you are wrong. Case-preserving, but
8578     > |> insensitive, is the CORRECT way for file systems. Capitalization should not
8579     > |> matter for interpretation of a file name just as it doesn't matter for
8580     > |> interpreting words in any human language.
8581     >
8582     > This is wrong. In German, there is a big difference between "paar" und
8583     > "Paar" (the first meaning "a few", the second "pair").
8584    
8585     The classic example:
8586    
8587     "Ich habe liebe Genossen in Moskau" - I've got dead comreds in Moscow.
8588     "Ich habe Liebe genossen in Moskau" - I enjoyed love in Moscow.
8589 root 1.387 %
8590 root 1.1 [do we need oo-style IO::File class in perl?]
8591     >_You_ aren't gonna code "use IO::File".
8592    
8593     And there's no reason for anyone else to, either, especially
8594     once Nick finishes the Larry-blessed autovivification of
8595     lvaluabled undefs in open(), socket(), etc.
8596    
8597     What's next, a String class for Perl?
8598    
8599     --tom
8600 root 1.387 %
8601 root 1.1 [some example of the kind of mail I sometimes receive:]
8602     i was just trying to help u out not hurt you in anyway ok i have the fbi
8603     working on something for me
8604     u havent done anything to me ok and the sherriffs department came by to talk
8605     to me nutting concerning y ok
8606     piece
8607     russ
8608 root 1.387 %
8609 root 1.1 [From "Basic Information about Unix", common commands:]
8610    
8611     pico (text editor for beginners)
8612     vi (text editor for advanced users)
8613     emacs (text editor for advanced users)
8614     ed (text editor for beginners)
8615 root 1.387 %
8616 root 1.1 There is no reason in principle that a Perl script shouldn't start with
8617    
8618     use Python;
8619    
8620     and appear to work exactly like Python from there to the end of the file.
8621     Except maybe faster. :-)
8622    
8623     Larry
8624 root 1.387 %
8625 root 1.1 > Perl6 gives us an opportunity to re-examine every feature at a microscopic level.
8626    
8627     just what I'm afraid of... I thought this was to be Perl6, not Perl
8628     2010.
8629    
8630     (Perl 2010: The Spaced Oddity?)
8631 root 1.387 %
8632 root 1.1 The X.25 specification is not a particularly easy document to
8633     read. Contrary to expectations, it does not make great use of diagrams
8634     and tables that help to explain the workings of the protocols that
8635     it contains. Instead the document makes use of many ambiguous English
8636     descriptions of the actions that should take place, allied with a complete
8637     lack of fluency in its prose descriptions, make for a very confusing
8638     document. It is a wonder that any correct X.25 implementations have ever
8639     been created.
8640 root 1.387 %
8641 root 1.1 > Joe: (walking into McDonalds) Hi, I'd like a Big Mac.
8642     >
8643     > Cashier: Okay, here's your Big Mac and here's your Coke. That'll be
8644     > $3.99.
8645     >
8646     > Joe: Uh, I don't want a Coke.
8647     >
8648     > Cashier: Sorry, they're bundled.
8649     >
8650     > Joe: What? I'm not paying for a Coke!
8651     >
8652     > Cashier: You don't; the Coke is free.
8653     >
8654     > Joe: But wasn't a Big Mac $2.49 last week?
8655     >
8656     > Cashier: Sure, but this latest Big Mac is far more innovative. It's
8657     > got integrated Coke!
8658     >
8659     > Joe: I already bought a Snapple across the street... I'm not going
8660     > to drink the Coke.
8661     >
8662     > Cashier: Then you can't have the burger.
8663     >
8664     > Joe: Okay, fine, I will pay the $3.99 and throw the Coke away.
8665     >
8666     > Cashier: Oh, you can't do that. They're seamlessly integrated. Totally
8667     > inseparable.
8668     >
8669     > Joe: How can that be? They're two totally separate things!
8670     >
8671     > Cashier: No, watch. (takes Big Mac, dunks it in a tank of Coke) See?
8672     >
8673     > Joe: Why did you just do that?!
8674     >
8675     > Cashier: It's a benefit to the consumer. Otherwise you'd end up with
8676     > two different, inconsistent tastes. This way you're assured of a
8677     > continuous taste across all your foods.
8678 root 1.387 %
8679 root 1.1 Threads are like salt. I like salt, you like salt, we all
8680     like salt, but we eat more pasta than salt.
8681 root 1.40 Rob Pike
8682 root 1.387 %
8683 root 1.1 From: Nathan Torkington <gnat@frii.com>
8684    
8685     Don't be bitten by Perl, get crushed by Python.
8686     Python: Perl for the punctuation-phobic.
8687     It takes 4 days for a python to digest a hamster, but only 2 days
8688     for you to digest this book.
8689     Python: it's really better but nobody uses it.
8690     Python: just for the whitespace of it.
8691     Join The Trickle
8692     Python: more popular than Dylan!
8693     Python: not written by crackheads in a gutter!
8694     Are you uptight? Try our new Python Hangups series.
8695 root 1.387 %
8696 root 1.1 Well Microsoft announced this new language called COOL which I can
8697     honestly say that I have seen NO CRAPPY CODE written in. OTOH it appears
8698     that to achieve this miraculous status by the simple technique of being
8699     complete and utter vapourware.
8700    
8701     Microsoft, taking the Business out of COBOL.
8702 root 1.387 %
8703 root 1.1 [From "Programming Perl"]
8704    
8705     We will encourage you to develop the three great virtues of a
8706     programmer: laziness, impatience and hubris
8707 root 1.387 %
8708 root 1.1 [Alexander Stepanov, creator of the STL]:
8709    
8710     Yes. STL is not object oriented. I think that object orientedness is
8711     almost as much of a hoax as Artificial Intelligence. I have yet to
8712     see an interesting piece of code that comes from these OO people. In
8713     a sense, I am unfair to AI: I learned a lot of stuff from the MIT AI
8714     Lab crowd, they have done some really fundamental work: Bill Gosper's
8715     Hakmem is one of the best things for a programmer to read. AI might
8716     not have had a serious foundation, but it produced Gosper and Stallman
8717     (Emacs), Moses (Macsyma) and Sussman (Scheme, together with Guy Steele). I
8718     find OOP technically unsound. It attempts to decompose the world in
8719     terms of interfaces that vary on a single type. To deal with the real
8720     problems you need multisorted algebras - families of interfaces that
8721     span multiple types. I find OOP philosophically unsound. It claims that
8722     everything is an object. Even if it is true it is not very interesting -
8723     saying that everything is an object is saying nothing at all. I find OOP
8724     methodologically wrong. It starts with classes. It is as if mathematicians
8725     would start with axioms. You do not start with axioms - you start with
8726     proofs. Only when you have found a bunch of related proofs, can you
8727     come up with axioms. You end with axioms. The same thing is true in
8728     programming: you have to start with interesting algorithms. Only when you
8729     understand them well, can you come up with an interface that will let them
8730     work.
8731     [...]
8732     You can't write a generic max() in Java that takes two arguments of some
8733     type and has a return value of that same type. Inheritance and interfaces
8734     don't help. And if they cannot implement max or swap or linear search,
8735     what chances do they have to implement really complex stuff? These are my
8736     litmus tests: if a language allows me to implement max and swap and linear
8737     search generically - then it has some potential.
8738     [...] Java is clearly an example of a money oriented programming (MOP).
8739     It might be successful - after all, MS DOS was - and it might be a
8740     profitable thing for all your readers to learn Java, but it has no
8741     intellectual value whatsoever.
8742    
8743     [Later, on OMG protocols like CORBA]
8744     I am old enough to remember all the networking standards that were coming
8745     out in the seventies. Who remembers them now?
8746 root 1.387 %
8747 root 1.1 [Stiftung Warentest "test", WDR 19990419:]
8748 root 1.388 "Schlechtes muß nicht billig sein..."
8749 root 1.387 %
8750 root 1.1 [/bin/false on solaris]
8751     #!/usr/bin/sh
8752     # Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
8753     # All Rights Reserved
8754    
8755     # THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
8756     # The copyright notice above does not evidence any
8757     # actual or intended publication of such source code.
8758    
8759     #ident "@(#)false.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.3 */
8760     [obvious invocation of exit snipped to avoid lawsuit. Yup, *1* line.]
8761 root 1.387 %
8762 root 1.1 <Aspirin> but ee uses imlib, and imlib is documented to take 4.7 days to start up on a 486 by Alan Cox.
8763 root 1.387 %
8764 root 1.1 When a tar built for SunOS runs under Solaris, it's incapable of opening
8765     or creating files with "lib/locale" in the path. It replaces that part of
8766     the path with "lib/oldlocale".
8767 root 1.387 %
8768 root 1.1 [Bruce Schneier in CRYPTO-GRAM, 19990315]
8769    
8770     "Microsoft prefers to treat security holes as a public relations problem,
8771     rather than fixing the actual problem."
8772    
8773     [further down: the official answer from Microsoft about a problem where
8774     just viewing a website would invisibly run unrestricted code on your
8775     machine]
8776    
8777     "Microsoft appreciates your input regarding this issue, however in lieu
8778     of modern technology being what it is, we all need to be personally
8779     responsible for knowing what we are downloading off the internet."
8780    
8781     [see http://www.panix.com/~dfoster/sec/chrono.html]
8782 root 1.387 %
8783 root 1.1 [Steve Funston wrote to me, after I unsubscribed him from gimp-perl for
8784     spamming:]
8785    
8786     >fuck you ass hole duh you are just a big fucker
8787     >>
8788     >>An error was generated by your request to our servers:
8789     >>------------------------------------------------------
8790     >>
8791     >>Your Email: bfunston@mich.com
8792     >>
8793     >>ERROR: You are not a member of this list.
8794    
8795     [and later, misquoting my name:]
8796     >mark is not only a big fat liar but he is an ass hole.
8797 root 1.387 %
8798 root 1.1 [How much of the microsoft shares does Bill Gates hold?]
8799     He has 19.8%. Paul Allen has 5.5%. Steve Ballmer has 4.7%.
8800 root 1.387 %
8801 root 1.1 > And what's wrong with being named Peter?
8802     If linus was peter, Linux would be called penix? (just guessing) ;)
8803 root 1.387 %
8804 root 1.1 According to Microsoft KnowledgeBase article Q216641, Microsoft Windows
8805     95/98 are limited to an uptime of *exactly* 49.7 days.
8806    
8807     --found by Vincent Janelle (Random)
8808 root 1.387 %
8809 root 1.1 > Leave that to RMS.
8810    
8811     If you had just sat through the horrific panel with Larry,
8812     RMS, Richard, and Linus, you would want to leave a whole lot
8813     else to RMS -- like a couple of megatons of the manure that
8814     he's full of.
8815    
8816     Support BSD/Linux.
8817    
8818     --tom
8819 root 1.387 %
8820 root 1.1 "The FSF is a cult -- don't support them." --Rob Pike
8821 root 1.387 %
8822 root 1.1 We are Linux. Resistance is an indication that you missed the point.
8823 root 1.387 %
8824 root 1.1 > Perhaps the cracker himself (itself? ;) isn't bright enough to delete shell
8825     > history, but his shrink-wrapped cracking tools might be a lot brighter...
8826    
8827     Some of them are. A surprising number aren't. A personal favorite of
8828     mine was the log from a cracker who couldn't figure out how to untar
8829     and install the trojan package he'd ftped onto the machine. he tried a
8830     few times, and then eventually gave up and logged out.
8831 root 1.387 %
8832 root 1.1 [on channel #gimp]
8833    
8834     [msg(Xachbot)] insult me
8835     [XachBot(xachbot@home.xach.com)] schmorp: David Miller would never approve of that.
8836 root 1.387 %
8837 root 1.1 [the creation]
8838     http://www.toodarkpark.org/caffeine-cgi-bin/textfile/net-hx.txt
8839 root 1.387 %
8840 root 1.1 THE LESSER-KNOWN PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES #12: LITHP
8841    
8842     This otherwise unremarkable language is distinguished by the absence of
8843     an "S" in its character set; users must substitute "TH". LITHP is said
8844     to be useful in protheththing lithtth.
8845 root 1.387 %
8846 root 1.1 Ich zog hier nur einen Pseudoschluss aus dieser sache, den ich nicht
8847     selbst schliesse.
8848     Norbert Harry Marzahn, selbsternannter "Judaaer"
8849     am 13.12.98 in de.alt.ufo
8850 root 1.387 %
8851 root 1.1 According to Gurusamy Sarathy:
8852     > "Resistance is futile, you will be modularized."
8853    
8854     No:
8855    
8856     use Borg;
8857     make_threat(-type => 'standard', -doom => 'modularized');
8858    
8859     --
8860     Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
8861 root 1.387 %
8862 root 1.1 "And over here, ladies and gentlemen, may I draw your attention to
8863     the 'posicks box', a mechanism within one of the late 20th century
8864     sub-I hardware gestalt integration agents (then called 'operating
8865     systems', this particular one being referred to as 'windows' by
8866     its commercial-mimetic sustainer), designed so as to provide the
8867     appearance and functionality required to comply with one of the few
8868     agreed-upon integration schemas (sub-I, of course) available at the
8869     time. Unsurprising given the non-integration imperitives used by the
8870     agent's sustainter, this mechanism was demonstrated to be an ingenious
8871     non-integration ploy that, while supporting the integration schema,
8872     failed to support the local interconnect schemas that this agent
8873     specialized in. This produced a classic focus rift in the knowledge
8874     pool, benefiting the sustainer in the short run due to the focus
8875     concentration facilities available to commericial-class mimetic
8876     sustainers. Practically, this wasn't a significant loss, in the long
8877     run, as neither the 'windows' or 'posicks' schemas were relevant to
8878     modern quasi-I agents. These two do live on, however, in a few niches.
8879     'posicks' is used as the integration schema between most nano-scale
8880     logic units (a fact that only a few meta-experts still need to be
8881     aware of), and 'windows' survives, for religious-mimetic reasons, as
8882     the human-communication agent in a few stereotypical toasters and soap
8883     dispensers."
8884    
8885     [Kenneth Albanowski]
8886 root 1.387 %
8887 root 1.1 Perl ist ein Schmerzmittel.
8888     Wenn Du bei der Speicherverwaltung oder der Stringverarbeitung
8889     unter C Schmerzen hast, nimm Perl.
8890     -- Kristian Koehntopp
8891 root 1.387 %
8892 root 1.1 > Why Windows NT Server 4.0 continues to exist in the enterprise would be a
8893     > topic appropriate for an investigative report in the field of psychology or
8894     > marketing, not an article on information technology -- John Kirch
8895 root 1.387 %
8896 root 1.388 [bei einer mündlichen Nachprüfung in BWL, Uni Hamburg]
8897 root 1.1
8898     Prof: "Was ist Agio?"
8899 root 1.388 Student: "Weiß ich nicht."
8900 root 1.1 Prof: "OK, durchgefallen!
8901 root 1.388 Student: "Ich habe aber Anspruch auf drei Fragen in der mündlichen Prüfung!"
8902 root 1.1 Prof: "Klar, was ist Disagio?"
8903     Student: "..."
8904     Prof: "...und was ist der Unterschied zwischen Agio und Disagio?"
8905     Student: "..."
8906     Prof: "...durchgefallen!"
8907 root 1.387 %
8908 root 1.1 Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@pobox.com> writes:
8909    
8910     > Just morbid curiosity,
8911     >
8912     > Are there _any_ unix boxes that _can't_ build Perl?
8913    
8914     Yes. Broken ones.
8915    
8916     dgris
8917 root 1.387 %
8918 root 1.1 "The kerastion is a musical instrument which cannot be heard."
8919     -- A Borges story in ten words.
8920 root 1.387 %
8921 root 1.1 "C combines the power of assembly language
8922     with the flexibility of assembly language."
8923 root 1.387 %
8924 root 1.1 ...
8925    
8926     <AOL>
8927    
8928     Me too!
8929    
8930     </AOL>
8931    
8932     Tig
8933 root 1.387 %
8934 root 1.1 ping -p 2b2b2b415448300d <hostname>
8935 root 1.387 %
8936 root 1.1 unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck;more;yes;umount;sleep
8937 root 1.387 %
8938 root 1.1 From: Dick Balaska <dick@buckosoft.com>
8939    
8940     I sit behind an NT dual P2/400 256MB for too many hours each day. It is
8941     "slow". One of my (fun) tasks is CD mastering. When i'm loading a 500MB
8942     wav file into the editor, the machine goes useless for two minutes while
8943     loading the wave file. Basically its just reading the file and writing it
8944     to swap. The CPU is at 5%. No Alt-Tab between apps during that time. No
8945     chance of putting the mouse over a button (too many dropped ticks). The
8946     NT kernel is just sitting waiting for I/O completions.
8947    
8948     Linux would be embarrassed to be that bad.
8949    
8950     I expected M$ to never fix this because its not "broken". However, i
8951     expect billg to start reading the above mentioned literal benchmarks and
8952     get really really pissed.
8953    
8954     Especially since i believe 1999 and 2000 to see Linux *really* start
8955     to cut into M$'s server market share.
8956 root 1.387 %
8957 root 1.1 > Hello I'm wondering if there's a lower traffic mailing list that exists
8958     > that's strictly important kernel announcements and not general chat. I
8959     > need to stay informed but I can't handle 250 messages in a 24 hour
8960     > period.
8961     >
8962     > Sorry for the insignificant post..
8963     > Nic
8964     >
8965    
8966     Thank you for contributing to the problem.
8967    
8968     -hpa
8969 root 1.387 %
8970 root 1.1 grep... grep... grep... (frog with unix stuck in his throat)
8971 root 1.387 %
8972 root 1.1 "If users are made to understand that the system administrator's job is to
8973     make computers run, and not to make them happy, they can, in fact, be made
8974     happy most of the time. If users are allowed to believe that the system
8975     administrator's job is to make them happy, they can, in fact, never be made
8976     happy."
8977     - - -Paul Evans (as quoted by Barb Dijker in "Managing Support Staff", LISA '97)
8978 root 1.387 %
8979 root 1.1 From: "Daniel P. Stasinski" <dannys@KAREMOR.COM>
8980     Subject: Microsoft Hotmail
8981     To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG
8982    
8983     I contacted Microsoft/Hotmail asking them to close the account
8984     of that was listed in the backdoored tcp wrapper source code.
8985     I also forwarded the offending code.
8986    
8987     The word back from them is that they will not close it. Theft
8988     of passwords and hacking does not violate thier terms of
8989     service.
8990    
8991     Daniel
8992 root 1.387 %
8993 root 1.1 Any UNIX-killer must also have:
8994     ...
8995     * cool name like Linux (serious, these fail: GNU Hurd FreeBSD 386BSD)
8996 root 1.387 %
8997 root 1.1 "Not all things worth doing are worth doing well."
8998     It's a phrase I use a lot. :-)
8999     [RJL]
9000 root 1.387 %
9001 root 1.1 As John Whittaker says: ``It's UNIX. That doesn't necessarily mean it's
9002     right.''
9003 root 1.387 %
9004 root 1.1 [Richard Stallman on the new _Pragma operator in C9X:]
9005    
9006     Amazing--they actually listened.
9007 root 1.387 %
9008 root 1.1 That "UNIX" term is very negative. People often associate it with
9009     SCO OpenServer, Wyse terminals, and 60 people on a 386. The UNIX
9010     that people know is just awful. It looks something like this:
9011    
9012     # less foo
9013     sh: command not found
9014     # more foo
9015     sh: command not found
9016     # emacs foo
9017     sh: command not found
9018     # ed foo
9019     0
9020     help
9021     ?
9022     quit
9023     ?
9024     exit
9025     ?
9026     DIE!!!!!!!!!!
9027     ?
9028    
9029     [Albert D. Cahalan]
9030 root 1.387 %
9031 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Stop blib warning in future releases?
9032     From: andreas.koenig@anima.de (Andreas J. Koenig)
9033     Date: 05 Jan 1999 03:15:37 +0100
9034    
9035     tim> Sure. Strictly speaking
9036    
9037     tim> use blib ':quiet';
9038    
9039     tim> would be most correct in style.
9040    
9041     Only German native speakers are allowed to treat adverbs adjectively.
9042     For the rest I'd recommend [...]
9043 root 1.387 %
9044 root 1.1 [A new U.S. Law implementing a WIPO treaty]
9045     No person shall circumvent a technological protection measure that
9046     effectively controls access to a work protected under this title
9047     [Or, in other words, applied cryptanalysis will be illegal.
9048     too bad --- ]
9049 root 1.387 %
9050 root 1.1 Microsoft - Is it going to work today?
9051 root 1.387 %
9052 root 1.1 Subject: Re: [gimp-devel] GIF plugin legal issues
9053    
9054     > Actually, my understanding is that Unisys doesn't currently enforce the
9055     > licensing cost on free software, but maybe I am mistaken.
9056    
9057     The general wording, spoken by an unnamed GIMP developer, is, if you'll
9058     pardon the language, "Unisys can go fuck itself."
9059 root 1.387 %
9060 root 1.1 [once on linux-kernel:]
9061     > >who are you why on yahoo when iprint sf16fmi i fond you i need drv
9062     > Does anyone have the secret decoder ring to make sense of this?
9063     he's confused about us showing up in a search match on yahoo, but needs
9064     driver(s) for his sf16fmi thingy.
9065 root 1.387 %
9066 root 1.1 > Did you try to compile kdeadmin from the CVS tree ?
9067    
9068     No I ran the KDE binaries. Im not interested in broken programs that
9069     include wrong #include files in their source.
9070 root 1.387 %
9071 root 1.1 [unix-faq]
9072    
9073     Someday, you are going to accidentally type something like
9074     "rm * .foo", and find you just deleted "*" instead of "*.foo".
9075     Consider it a rite of passage.
9076 root 1.387 %
9077 root 1.1 "There's one word that strikes fear into nuclear scientists..."
9078     "Oops."
9079     -- MST3K
9080 root 1.387 %
9081 root 1.1 Seems like 80-bit spills would be closer to IEEE, if not close enough to
9082     claim full support. Off-hand I'd say people would be happier with
9083     those numeric properties than with the current situation.
9084    
9085     I'll think about the esoterica (probably break down and ask people here).
9086     It would certainly make gcc the most reliable x86 floating-point compiler
9087     I know. Sun's does something similar to -ffloat-store by default (gee,
9088     look at how fast that ultra is), and Microsoft's runs off the end of the
9089     stack at run-time . I don't know what Intel's does, so I'm not considering
9090     it. ;)
9091 root 1.387 %
9092 root 1.1 >I was using the localtime function to change time_t into it's various
9093     >human-readable parts. I noticed that $year gets returned as 98 and
9094     >not 1998. I tested a few different unices and got the same result.
9095     >This is expected behavior based on the examples I've seen and my own
9096     >testing. My question is how is this y2k compliant?
9097    
9098     What part of your C library's documentation on localtime(3), the perlfunc
9099     documentation on the Perl localtime function, the perlfaq4 entry on `Does
9100     Perl have a year 2000 problem?', and the Y2K document on www.perl.com
9101     did you find to be unclear on the answer to this question?
9102    
9103     --tom
9104 root 1.387 %
9105 root 1.1 > * Have you ever wondered how life began ?
9106    
9107     In a laboratory somewhere at Bell Labs.
9108    
9109     >Why does it end ?
9110    
9111     Ask the X3J11 committee.
9112    
9113     > * Can you tell WHY there is life ? What is the purpose of it ?
9114     > * Can YOU do anything to make your life worth living ? WHAT ?
9115    
9116     To promote the the DEATH OF ANSI C! K+R FOREVER! DOWN WITH PORTABILITY!
9117 root 1.387 %
9118 root 1.1 "Unix *is* Perl's IDE!"
9119     -- Tom Christiansen
9120 root 1.387 %
9121 root 1.1 [Sputnik]
9122    
9123     Do you honestly think the Americans would mention a Soviet success? :-)
9124     A number of years back I saw an exhibition in the US on the development of
9125     supersonic passenger aircraft. They forgot to mention Concorde. It
9126     wouldn't surprise me in the least if most people at NASA had never heard
9127     of Sputnik.
9128 root 1.387 %
9129 root 1.1 NTFS by default adds unnecessary serialization to an extent that
9130     even older file systems such as FFS do not, and its performance
9131     characteristics reflect that. In fairness, it should be said that it is
9132     the superior approach for most removable media without software control
9133     of ejection (e.g. IBM PC floppies).
9134 root 1.387 %
9135 root 1.1 Never attribute to malice what could as well be explained by stupidity.
9136     - Hanlons razor -
9137 root 1.387 %
9138 root 1.1 Shallit's Razor: Never attribute to conspiracy what may be adequately
9139     explained by stupidity or incompetence.
9140 root 1.387 %
9141 root 1.1 According to Chris Nandor:
9142     > I thought about creating a web interface to input, edit, delete entries,
9143     > but that would have taken me longer, been more complex and less secure, and
9144     > offered no significant advantages.
9145    
9146     That one's in the quotes file. Thanks.
9147 root 1.387 %
9148 root 1.1 My friend who had a Compaq called one day when his built-in cdrom drive
9149     stopped responding. Their answer "its a virus. Reinstal Windows". So he did
9150     (?) and it still didn't work. He called them and they said "its a virus,
9151     reinstall." "But I just installed. If there is a virus, it came from YOUR
9152     quick restore disk." "No, no virus there, but you DO have a virus. My paper
9153     in front of me says so."
9154    
9155     He took it back and bought a Gateway.
9156 root 1.387 %
9157 root 1.1 9. Deinde, ne in posterum a XII kalendas aprilis aequinoctium recedat,
9158     statuimus bissextum quarto quoque anno (uti mos est) continuari debere,
9159     praeterquam in centesimis annis; qui, quamvis bissextiles antea semper
9160     fuerint, qualem etiam esse volumus annum MDC, post eum tamen qui
9161     deinceps consequentur centesimi non omnes bissextiles sint, sed in
9162     quadringentis quibusque annis primi quique tres centesimi sine bissexto
9163     transigantur, quartus vero quisque centesimus bissextilis sit, ita ut
9164     annus MDCC, MDCCC, MDCCCC bissextiles non sint. Anno vero MM, more
9165     consueto dies bissextus intercaletur, februario dies XXIX continente,
9166     idemque ordo intermittendi intercalandique bissextum diem in
9167     quadringentis quibusque annis perpetuo conservetur.
9168 root 1.387 %
9169 root 1.1 You obviously have not dealt with Microsoft Winnt 4.0
9170     and all the Service Pack then. While one Service Pack
9171     did somewhat correct the Y2K problem was not aware that
9172     2000 was in fact a leap year. There was no way to set
9173     the date to Feb 29, 2000.
9174 root 1.387 %
9175 root 1.1 "Ernst Lehmann, die Organisationsredundanz beim Cluster-Treffen"
9176 root 1.387 %
9177 root 1.388 HP Computer NEWS 3/98 about HP 2000/CN printer (page 24): "Darüber
9178 root 1.1 hinaus ... hat der HP 2000C/CN durch den Einsatz von Intel MMX-
9179     Technologie Zugriff auf deren Farbtabellen und kann so Farbbilder
9180     schneller verarbeiten" (A mistake made when translating. It's hard to
9181     get the wrong meaning if translated back to English, sorry.)
9182 root 1.387 %
9183 root 1.1 From: Robert Lipe
9184     > > I program computers with no screens and no keyboards for a living.
9185     > > Switches and front-panels are a LUXURY! :-)
9186     >
9187     > But I guess you are not _programming_ these computers without a keyboard
9188     > and/or screen.
9189    
9190     Are you familiar with the Vulcan Mind Meld?
9191 root 1.387 %
9192 root 1.1 Subject: Re: [fwd from comp.lang.python] Re: Python 2 ideas [Re: access
9193     From: Tuomas Lukka <lukka@fas.harvard.edu>
9194    
9195     On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
9196     > use pedantic;
9197     > use strict 'code';
9198     >
9199     > or whatever is the syntax to switch Perl into 'dull'/'pythonish' mode.
9200    
9201     use syntax 'python';
9202    
9203     Let's just embrace&extend'em ;) ;)
9204    
9205 root 1.387 %
9206 root 1.1 Thus it was written in the epistle of Larry Wall,
9207     >
9208     > Having discussed all this thoroughly at the Hacker's Conference this
9209     > past weekend, I've come to the conclusion that Y2K will be traumatic
9210     > primarily because people *think* it will be traumatic. A panic is a
9211     > panic whether or not it's justified. People get trampled in panics.
9212     >
9213     > It should be illegal to yell "Y2K" in a crowded economy. :-)
9214 root 1.387 %
9215 root 1.1 [rfc1925]
9216     Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick any two (you can't have all three).
9217 root 1.387 %
9218 root 1.1 [Alan Cox, why not port hurd to sgi, instead of linux]
9219     > A possible minus is the message-passing between the servers which might
9220     > be time-consuming.
9221    
9222     "Yesterdays technology, next week" to quote an OSI saying
9223 root 1.387 %
9224 root 1.1 UNIX versions of ctags handle the C language, and often Pascal and Fortran
9225     77. Sometimes, they even handle assembly language. Almost universally,
9226     however, they do not handle C++...
9227     [from "learning the vi editor"]
9228 root 1.387 %
9229 root 1.1 > correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a thread about this a few
9230     > months back that resolved the ping -f localhost as a ping bug.
9231    
9232     Indeed, as Alan Cox said:
9233    
9234     So get a non-buggy ping(8) client.
9235    
9236     and as Ecclesiastes said:
9237    
9238     Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been
9239     already of old time, which was before us.
9240     There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any
9241     remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
9242    
9243     Regards,
9244     Tigran.
9245 root 1.387 %
9246 root 1.1 SNMP stands for Security Not My Problem
9247 root 1.387 %
9248 root 1.1 [slightly broken, though...]
9249     /* "Hello World" in B for 64-bit hardware! */
9250     hw [0] "Hello World.*n";
9251     main(){
9252     extrn hw;
9253     putchar(0[hw]);
9254     hw=+1;
9255     putchar(0[hw]);
9256     }
9257 root 1.387 %
9258 root 1.1 > So what comes first the chicken or the egg? :)
9259    
9260     The egg. Always. By definition.
9261 root 1.387 %
9262 root 1.1 > > PPS: Robert, I just made my first y2k fix to that script ;()
9263     >
9264     > Better check your scsi cables.
9265 root 1.387 %
9266 root 1.1 Arroganz durch Wissen
9267     [Dirk Jagdmann]
9268 root 1.387 %
9269 root 1.1 [Re: Pegasus - Gut oder Boese?]
9270     > Weil er sie dabei ja unterstuetzt. Da er aber (abgesehen von den ersten
9271     > ein- oder zweimal) nur auf Anrufen von Rosa-Girl erscheint, koennte man es
9272     > auch anders herum sagen. wenn CU Pfeift, kommt er angaloppiert 8))
9273    
9274 root 1.388 was aber leider bedeutet, daß usa die Rennsemmel ständig mit
9275 root 1.1 sich rumschleppen mu?. ^_-
9276     Nur weil die Kleine die Bimmel hat!
9277    
9278 root 1.388 Und wer weiß, was dieses pädophile Pferd eigentlich noch so
9279 root 1.1 bezwecken will... ^_-
9280 root 1.387 %
9281 root 1.1 >James :\
9282     >
9283     >I apologize for adding a message to this possibly trivial thread.
9284    
9285     I like your sig. I hope you use it for everything you post.
9286 root 1.387 %
9287 root 1.1 From: Mason <mason@schwanda.resnet.tamu.edu>
9288     Subject: night of the undead ip stack
9289     Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:03:19 -0600 (CST)
9290 root 1.387 %
9291 root 1.1 > The person who decides to invent UNICODE support for Linux
9292     > is just asking for a black eye.
9293    
9294     But Unicode for NT is such fun!
9295    
9296     For example, the checked DbgPrint() bluescreens above DISPATCH_LEVEL
9297     if you try to print a Unicode string--the Unicode->ASCII
9298     translation tables are marked as pageable.
9299    
9300     Since as far as I know, printk() does not have any format specifiers
9301     that cause obscure kernel panics, Linux is clearly behind in this
9302     area.
9303 root 1.387 %
9304 root 1.1 Linux: a no problem operating system for no problem people.
9305     [Lukas Grunwald]
9306 root 1.387 %
9307 root 1.1 http://dd.sh/perlfs/:
9308    
9309     THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL (PRE-ALPHA) VERSION OF THE PERL FILESYSTEM.
9310     EVEN WHEN IT LOADS WITHOUT CAUSING A KERNEL PANIC, IT WILL LOCK UP
9311     YOUR MACHINE, DESTROY ALL YOUR DATA, KIDNAP YOUR FAMILY AND
9312     (DEPENDING ON SAID FAMILY'S CONFIGURATION) SHOOT YOUR CAT, DOG, AND/OR
9313     FIRST-BORN CHILD.
9314 root 1.387 %
9315 root 1.1 [a comment on http://dd.sh/perlfs/]
9316     Forget GNU/Linux. /PerL/inux will conquer all.
9317    
9318     kill 0,1 if -x '/PerL/inux'; # request kernel mode
9319 root 1.387 %
9320 root 1.1 [Tim Hollebeek on real arithmetic]
9321     On a machine with a sane floating point model, the results make sense.
9322     For example, my SGI workstation prints:
9323    
9324     0.00000000000000011102 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000020000 1.00000000000000040000
9325    
9326     However, a machine with the Intel FPU from hell gives:
9327    
9328     0.00000000000000000005 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000
9329    
9330     due to the fact that whether 1+x and 1 are the same number depends on whether
9331     the numbers are in the FPU or not.
9332 root 1.387 %
9333 root 1.388 [Grüner Tip/Arte]
9334 root 1.1 Ihre Nachbarn sind zu laut und feiern andauernd Parties? Kein Problem, ihr
9335 root 1.388 Bohrer wird nachts um zwei spielend mit _jedem_ Lärm fertig....
9336 root 1.387 %
9337 root 1.1 Remember, eating healthy doesn't make you live longer, it just makes it seem
9338     longer...
9339 root 1.387 %
9340 root 1.1 [M$ about unix development tools like GCC]
9341     By the standards of the novice / intermediate developer accustomed to
9342     VB/VS/VC/VJ, these tools are incredibly primitive.
9343 root 1.387 %
9344 root 1.1 > > Praha is nice and our university is interesting, since it is according
9345     > > to tests most complex and impractical computer science university on the
9346     > > world :) I just love it...
9347     >
9348     > Oh well, great that I won't be studying there...
9349     >
9350     It is really fun.... just now I have lesson (that reminds me that I really
9351     should go now) about set theory and infinity... it is really fun and very
9352     practical...
9353     for example that you have cinema with infinity chairs and infinity plus one
9354     person wants to see movie... what do yo do?
9355     Just let sit down the first infinity persons and then last person ask first
9356     one to move to second chair, second one to move to third and so on and
9357     everyone fits.. isn't that great to know? :))
9358    
9359     Jan Hubicka
9360 root 1.387 %
9361 root 1.1 > template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> A {};
9362     [...]
9363     > I think that this construction is allowed by the ANSI C++.
9364    
9365     No, it is not. What you meant is
9366    
9367     template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> class A {};
9368 root 1.387 %
9369 root 1.1 Jan Dubois writes:
9370     > A) perl-5.00553
9371     > path = \perl\5.00553\bin\MsWin32-x86\perl.exe
9372     > cc = cl.exe
9373     A performance analysis compiling with M$ compiler? Get real!
9374    
9375     [...]
9376    
9377     Ilya
9378 root 1.387 %
9379 root 1.1 >Shouldn't the kernel compile with all combinations of options.
9380    
9381     Yes. Feel free to fix it and send a patch.
9382    
9383     p.
9384 root 1.387 %
9385 root 1.1 [tomc]
9386     Jean-Louis provides four arguments in favor of the overloading of the
9387     logical && and || operators. Here they are:
9388    
9389     +------------------------------------------+
9390     | Other languages, notably C++, permit it. |
9391     +------------------------------------------+
9392    
9393     This one is hardly persuasive. Many languages do innumerable things
9394     that Perl does not do. Just for example, take:
9395    
9396     * Csh reparses and re-evals interpolated strings, allowing something
9397     like C<$cmd $var> to do interesting things.
9398     * The Fortran lexer (as it were), having no need of white space to
9399     infer tokens, allows C<DO I=1.10> and C<DO I=1,10> to coexist in an
9400     interesting way.
9401     * Icon has an entirely different notion of success and failure,
9402     allowing expressions like (X < Y < Z) to do interesting things.
9403     * Scheme has call-with-continuation, allowing co-routines to do
9404     interesting things.
9405     * C++ has template classes with abnormal typing rules even for that
9406     language, allowing parameterized meta-classes to do interesting
9407     things.
9408 root 1.387 %
9409 root 1.1 Make is like Pascal: everybody likes it, so they go in and change it.
9410     --Dennis Ritchie
9411 root 1.387 %
9412 root 1.1 perl -wlpe '}{$_=$.' file # Count the number of lines.
9413 root 1.387 %
9414 root 1.1 [not quite duff's device, but...]
9415    
9416     switch (x)
9417     default:
9418     if (prime(x))
9419     case 2: case 3: case 5: case 7:
9420     process_prime(x);
9421     else
9422     case 4: case 6: case 8: case 9: case 10:
9423     process_composite(x);
9424 root 1.387 %
9425 root 1.1 Is there any truth to the rumor that the number appearing
9426     after the words "Microsoft Windows" is the minimum amount of memory,
9427     in megabytes, required for execution?
9428    
9429     Craig Milo Rogers
9430 root 1.387 %
9431 root 1.1 Mark Mielke writes:
9432     > This statement is false. The simple fact that school textbooks teach it
9433     > to be indeterminate should be enough to convince you of that.
9434    
9435     This is just another reference point about the state of education in
9436     US (apparently in Canada too?).
9437    
9438     Ilya
9439 root 1.387 %
9440 root 1.1 [from p5p]
9441     > Now you know why threading is experimental and all, buddy.
9442    
9443     Experimental schexperimental. Anything that doesn't cause an
9444     immediate coredump is not experimental. :-) (Observant readers will
9445     note that this is a more rigorous standard than Microsoft's.)
9446    
9447     Nat
9448 root 1.387 %
9449 root 1.1 Needless to say, Linux awk is probably gawk, which has been taking too
9450     much steroids for a while. =)
9451    
9452     --Albert Dvornik
9453     <bert@genscan.com>
9454 root 1.387 %
9455 root 1.1 Subject: Re: zero width lookbehind considered slow
9456     From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@jhereg.perl.com>
9457     Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:40:37 -0500
9458    
9459     >*You* do not understand? Perl is slow...
9460    
9461     Ilya: You are formerly invited to go play in the python
9462     or tcl crowd instead of here.
9463    
9464     --tom
9465 root 1.387 %
9466 root 1.1 >What's it? Can linux be improved too? Or has it already been improved?
9467    
9468     Linux has never done anything so stupid in the first place.
9469    
9470     Linus
9471 root 1.387 %
9472 root 1.1 On the 8th day god created email. And got noted the world was good. Then the
9473     devil added HTML mail...
9474 root 1.387 %
9475 root 1.1 linux/lib/vsprintf.c: * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds fucked it up :-)
9476     linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/binfmt_aout32.c: /* Fuck me plenty... */
9477     linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/ptrace.c:/* Fuck me gently with a chainsaw... */
9478 root 1.387 %
9479 root 1.1 On 1998-10-11T02:37:57,
9480     Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> said:
9481    
9482     > Believe me Microsoft think Linux is a threat now. Its level with things like
9483     > java in their perceived threat list, so you can expect all the usual MS
9484     > techniques to start coming this way and very soon.
9485    
9486     Arm the gnus!
9487 root 1.387 %
9488 root 1.1 [David Miller after (another) endless discussion with Richard Kenner]
9489    
9490     Anyways, I tired (just like everyone else) of arguing endlessly with
9491     you, you're in the past, you no longer constrain my ability to improve
9492     gcc, so go away.
9493 root 1.387 %
9494 root 1.1 I received my copy of Visual Studio 6.0 today. I couldn't believe that it
9495     wanted to install the C++ compiler into a directory called:
9496    
9497     "\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98"
9498    
9499     But anyways, I just had to find out if it was finally possible to compile
9500     Perl (without PERL_OBJECT) with optimization (-O2).
9501 root 1.387 %
9502 root 1.1 [on perl version numbering]
9503     > So it could be 5.006 for the developers, but "ThreadPerl" or "Perl with
9504     > Multithreads" (or some such) for the journalists, if that's what
9505     > journalists need to make them pay attention.
9506    
9507     Down that path lies "Perl version 5.006, codename `Ticklish Uvula',
9508     was released today" madness.
9509 root 1.387 %
9510 root 1.1 [on perl version numbering]
9511     > elaine> 5.1 would be a good thing(tm) as it would draw attention,
9512     > elaine> etc. in a way that a developers versioning would. The
9513     > elaine> world is not populated by people who think the same
9514     > elaine> way. To that end, this would be a good change. Of course,
9515     > elaine> we could call it Perl99.
9516     >
9517     > To me, Perl seems to be recognized for it's language qualities, not
9518     > for marketing reasons. IMHO, perl may keep this difference with other
9519     > wintel product. More than that : Perl99, would let believe people that
9520     > it is not Y2K proofed, or still in beta (<1.00). So it's not a good
9521     > marketing name, anyway.
9522    
9523     Right. Then, to be Y2K compliant, we'll have to call it Perl1999. Hmmm.
9524     "The year perl left earth's orbit"? Maybe we need to get the NASA guys to
9525     put perl on the next low-cost spaceshot.
9526    
9527     Of course, then c.l.p.m's motto could be "We do not commit *mindless*
9528     violence..." :-)
9529 root 1.387 %
9530 root 1.1 Rule 1 says that Larry says that Larry has the last say, unless he changes
9531     his mind in which case he still has the last say.
9532 root 1.387 %
9533 root 1.1 > >I never said it did.. I should have said: Binary only drivers encourage
9534     > >poor drivers
9535     >
9536     > No it doesn't.
9537    
9538     Indeed. Its down to
9539    
9540     Profit = (units * margin) - overhead
9541    
9542     and the folks who decide "overhead" arent the programmers but the management.
9543     The folks who say "you have two weeks allocated to write this driver, then
9544     we ship it" are the folks to take the issue up with, and that goes source
9545     or binaries.
9546 root 1.387 %
9547 root 1.1 dig txt leap.yp.to
9548 root 1.387 %
9549 root 1.1 "The fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that nobody's after me..."
9550 root 1.387 %
9551 root 1.1 [linux-kernel on endianess issues with NIPQUAD]
9552    
9553     |> Do I read this correct?!? Is it more acceptable to have a bug[*],
9554     |> than a not optimal fix?!?!?
9555     |>
9556     |> s/optimal/stupid/
9557    
9558     What's stupid is little endian. <g>
9559    
9560     Andreas.
9561 root 1.387 %
9562 root 1.1 [Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
9563     ...
9564     A closely related question is `What is 1 minute before 23:59:60?''.
9565    
9566     Here's a good one: `What is 1 month before 1 February 1995 in
9567     Kiritimati?''. There was no 1 January 1995 in Kiritimati; they
9568     skipped a day by moving the clocks ahead 24 hours. Similar issues
9569     arise when asking about times that occur within smaller, more typical
9570     UTC offset changes. A number of obscure questions arise here, and I'm
9571     not sure it's worth standardizing all the answers.
9572 root 1.387 %
9573 root 1.1 [D.J.Bernstein on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
9574    
9575     Paul Eggert writes:
9576     > which I am calling the `modified TIME_TAI''
9577    
9578     Your time differences break down near leap seconds. Ever watched xntpd
9579     try to handle a leap second? Wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble.
9580 root 1.387 %
9581 root 1.1 For binary only drivers you can assume most vendors will build x86 only
9582     however.
9583    
9584     "We don't have the tools"
9585     "We can't support a non intel build"
9586     "We don't have that sort of machine"
9587     "Its not worth the time cost"
9588     "Whats an Alpha ?"
9589 root 1.387 %
9590 root 1.1 On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote:
9591    
9592     > The original message was received at Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:39:56 -0400
9593     > from mini [10.0.0.3]
9594     >
9595     > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
9596     > <mailproc@fred>
9597     >
9598     > ----- Transcript of session follows -----
9599     > procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
9600     > procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
9601     > procmail: can't load library 'libc.so.5'
9602     > 554 <mailproc@fred>... unknown mailer error 16
9603 root 1.387 %
9604 root 1.1 > Here is the difficulty with this discussion:
9605     > No documented problem
9606     > No reason to believe that the "solution" solves the unspecified "problem"
9607     > No clear understanding of the effects of this change on the system
9608     >
9609     > Why, this could be a discusion among AIX developers!
9610 root 1.387 %
9611 root 1.1 > This would be a reasonable committee-like compromise that might
9612     > satisfy neither of us (:-).
9613 root 1.387 %
9614 root 1.1 By default Microsoft has set Explorer to use gz files as VRML, you need to
9615     change the association for .gz / vrml from "start vrml program" to "always ask"
9616    
9617     dave
9618 root 1.387 %
9619 root 1.1 On 10 Aug 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
9620     DG> You're not programming MS-DOS applications are you?
9621    
9622     BP> Hell no. I wouldn't touch MS-DOS with a ten-foot network cable.
9623 root 1.387 %
9624 root 1.1 [Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
9625    
9626     Date: 10 Oct 1998 15:35:05 -0000
9627     From: "D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>
9628    
9629     Paul Eggert writes:
9630     > * 29 February if it's a leap lear, 28 February otherwise.
9631    
9632     If that's 1 month before 31 March, then what's 1 month before 30 March?
9633     1 month before 29 March?
9634    
9635     The same as 1 month before 31 March.
9636    
9637     1 month before 28 March?
9638    
9639     28 February.
9640    
9641     And what's 1 month after 28 February? 1 month after 27 February? 1 month
9642     _before_ 27 February?
9643    
9644     28 March, 27 March, and 27 January.
9645 root 1.387 %
9646 root 1.1 Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
9647    
9648     >Nils Goesche wrote:
9649     >> So make a security check first:
9650     >>
9651     >> if (status = UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK)
9652     >> launch_full_counterstrike();
9653     >
9654     >Hmmm. The way the worlds been going lately, AI wouldn't trust that code to
9655     >do the job. Here's the revised version:
9656     >
9657     >if(status == UNDER_NULEAR_ATTACK); /* Corrected dangerous
9658     > = instead of == error*/
9659     > launch_full_counterstrike();
9660     >
9661     >Now isn't that much more reliable?
9662     >
9663     >--
9664     >Email: cyrand@hotmail.com
9665    
9666     The following variant is less reliable but much safer:
9667    
9668     if (status == UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK); /* Correct dangerous
9669     launch_full_counterstrike (); = instead == error */
9670 root 1.387 %
9671 root 1.1 It is even more cheerful than that. Not so long time ago a customers
9672     of ours totally destroyed his NT installation on Alpha.
9673    
9674     He found on a manufacturer page, no money - for a download, "NT driver"
9675     for his particular piece of a hardware. So he followed instructions
9676     to the letter - "Installation Wizzard" and all that crap - and the thing
9677     happily installed clobbering, as it is customary in these circles,
9678     essential system libraries with its own versions. The catch was that
9679     this driver was for NT/Intel and these bozos did not even bother to
9680     check for an architecture or at least mention something in some blurb.
9681     Ooops! No chance even to try to boot anymore.
9682    
9683     The saving grace was that the installation was rather new, so loses
9684     were not big, and he had an opportunity to practice an essential skill
9685     of re-installing Windows NT. Ah, and yes, this was the only NT driver
9686     available for that hardware from any source.
9687     What do you plan on doing? Using a PA system for networking? :)
9688     Whats next? A *Smell* modem? It would bring a new meaning to packet
9689     sniffing!
9690 root 1.387 %
9691 root 1.1 "I'd rather spend 10 hours reading source code than 10 minutes on a
9692     technical support line that isn't"
9693 root 1.387 %
9694 root 1.1 [from linux-kernel]
9695     `This code fills 8 million seats, we therefore decide what's standard.''
9696 root 1.387 %
9697 root 1.1 [...]
9698     And especially with new machines users have a lot of clout. Several UK
9699     suppliers now carry Buslogic cards partly because they got fed up of
9700    
9701     "I'd like to order a dual PII/300, 256Mb of RAM, 17" monitor
9702     4 4Gig IBM disks, and a buslogic scsi controller"
9703     "We dont do buslogic only adaptec"
9704     "Nothing else"
9705     "Sorry"
9706     [Click]
9707    
9708     Alan
9709 root 1.387 %
9710 root 1.388 Fünfzig Prozent der Amerikaner wurden in ihrer Kindheit sexuell mißbraucht,
9711     während weitere fünfzig Prozent von Außerirdischen entführt wurden.
9712 root 1.387 %
9713 root 1.1 > Let's not forget that this is just an informal, free
9714     > software project. Unlke the US House of Representatives
9715     > we do not yet posess nuclear capability (certain RTEMS
9716     > users excepted, of course!).
9717    
9718     Hmmm, if some RTEMS users have nuclear facilities attached to their
9719     systems, they might be well advised to be careful using FORTRAN as
9720     their language of choice. The comp.lang.fortran FAQ states (with
9721     concurrence from resident X3J3 members) that "using a non-standard
9722     construct might start WW III, if the necessary (optional) hardware
9723     is installed"
9724    
9725     [Toon Moene in private discussion]
9726 root 1.387 %
9727 root 1.1 Newsgroups: alt.config
9728    
9729     L. Harris wrote:
9730     >
9731     > Testing
9732    
9733     you failed.
9734 root 1.387 %
9735 root 1.1 Roswell {Unit 6 of 5 Sam Borg} Coverup [Rev. joWazzoo - well mannered despammer]
9736     <JOWazzoo@WhiteICE.com> at We are Sam Borg Spam Assimilators Ltd. - Area 51 HQ
9737 root 1.387 %
9738 root 1.1 Perl is really designed more for the guys that will hack Perl at least
9739     20 minutes a day for the rest of their career. TCL/Python is more a
9740     "20 minutes a week", and VB is probably in that "20 minutes a month"
9741     group. :) -- Randal Schwartz
9742 root 1.387 %
9743 root 1.1 > alternative, when it comes to stability and power...Not to mention the
9744     > fact that bugs and fixes are very quickly available and don't come in
9745     > 18MB+ "Service Packs" :).
9746    
9747     What, you mean you _paid_ for service pack '98?
9748 root 1.387 %
9749 root 1.1 We got this INTERNET because we whan't more information ( to learn ) now it
9750     seem's people can't handle what they see. You say freedom is a mater of
9751     choice (well it is) you have the freedom to choose to carry your butt some
9752     where else...
9753 root 1.387 %
9754 root 1.1 Steve Orzel (phloam@vol.com) wrote:
9755     [...]
9756     : The purpose of the newsgroup is to help out other people that have questions
9757     : about a certain topic.
9758 root 1.387 %
9759 root 1.1 Mark Robinson wrote:
9760     >
9761     > Does any have any source code to games that I can have? Does anybody
9762     > know where I can get game sources(legally)?
9763    
9764     Here's the trial version of the three-room text adventure I'm going to
9765     write. I'm not finished yet, though.
9766    
9767     void main (void)
9768     {
9769     printf ("You are in a dark room.\n");
9770     printf ("\n");
9771     printf ("You feel a sharp pain.\n");
9772     printf ("You have died.\n");
9773     printf ("\n");
9774     printf ("!!! GAME OVER !!!");
9775     }
9776    
9777     (Don't tell, but I took some of the code from Quake.)
9778    
9779     --
9780     John Kugelman. kugelman@mnsinc.com
9781 root 1.387 %
9782 root 1.1 [mail I got after releasing a zip-password cracker, the second biggest
9783     mistake I ever made]
9784    
9785     From: "Tom Miller"
9786     Subject: Can
9787     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
9788    
9789     Hay man can you send me some hacking tips and tricks please
9790     send to kymmiller@bigpond.com
9791     my name is Tom Miller
9792    
9793     From: "Tom Miller"
9794     Subject: Wait
9795     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
9796    
9797     Hey man its Tom can you also send me any easy systems to hack and the
9798     passwords also send me any infomation about hacking websites thank you
9799 root 1.387 %
9800 root 1.1 From: lm@bitmover.com (Larry McVoy)
9801    
9802     [...] then think a little before flaming. Or better yet, produce something
9803     better. Flaming is easy but it is basically masturbation without the orgasm
9804     so why bother? [...]
9805 root 1.387 %
9806 root 1.388 Günter Höns <guenter.hoens@gmd.de>
9807 root 1.1
9808     Newsgroups: de.alt.ufo
9809    
9810     Offensichtlich ist noch keinem das Wasser-Wachstum aufgefallen, das sogar
9811     jeden Tag geschieht. Jeden Tag waechst der Wasserberg im Meer um mehrere
9812     Meter, ist dann naeher an der Sonne und verdunstet dann. Sogenannte
9813     Wissenschaftler haben eine abenteuerliche Theorie ueber den Einfluss des
9814     Mondes auf dieses Wachstum aufgestellt, aber inzwischen wissen wir es
9815     besser: Die Wasser-Molekuele werden von Neutrinos getroffen, und verdoppeln
9816     sich dann.
9817 root 1.387 %
9818 root 1.1 CRASH(8)
9819     no fs
9820     A device has disappeared from the mounted-device table.
9821     Definitely hardware or software error.
9822    
9823     Unix Version 7 Manual
9824 root 1.387 %
9825 root 1.1 On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Larry Wall wrote:
9826     >
9827     > Maybe Pi looks like this:
9828     >
9829     > =for C
9830     > i++; /* add 1 to i */
9831     > =end
9832     > =for C++
9833     > i.value() += 1; // add 1 to i, probably
9834     > =end
9835     > =for Java
9836     > system().foo().bar().i().value().please().increment(); // ???
9837     > =end
9838     >
9839     > :-)
9840 root 1.387 %
9841 root 1.1 > > USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW!
9842 root 1.387 %
9843 root 1.1 [on linux 2.1.111]
9844    
9845     The horrid underlining which was a feature with the monochrome Linux vt's on
9846     the previous two releases of the kernel has gone. Unfortunately, so has the
9847     cursor. A couple of brief experiments didn't result in me finding a way to
9848     turn it on.
9849 root 1.387 %
9850 root 1.1 [...]
9851     its a true story, it happend this weekend in a nice country
9852     between Belgium (wellknown for its Dutroux-case) and Germany
9853     (wellknown for its Bratwurst), lets call it the Lowlands...
9854     [...]
9855 root 1.387 %
9856 root 1.1 I get a sense of god-like proportions when I patch /dev/kmem with dd(1).
9857    
9858     Chad C Giffin
9859 root 1.387 %
9860 root 1.1 [usenet, an anology]
9861     Mary Green's car was smoking. She got worried. "Whatever should I do?"
9862     worried Mary... Well, as she drove along she noticed a florists shop. "Aha!
9863     Thought Mary, "Flour shops are full of thoughtless men who need to apologize to
9864     their wives. These men are the sometimes the same ones I see swearing under
9865     the hoods of their cars in the shade of a tree."
9866    
9867     "Brrring" said the bell of the door to the flower shop as Mary poked her head
9868     through the door.
9869     "HELP!!! MY CAR IS SMOKING!" Screamed Mary.
9870     "There is a garage right next door." Said the shopkeeper.
9871     "That's right," Said Melvin, "And there is a parts store across the street. If
9872     you ask for Fred, he's pretty savvy about that kind of stuff."
9873     Now Joe was also in the flower store. This was his first time in trouble, so
9874     he did not hear the 30 or 40 people per day who came in screaming about their
9875     cars smoking (mostly men, of course -- the ones under the shade trees,
9876     usually.)
9877    
9878     "Why don't you help the stinking lady!!" Screamed Joe. "It might be your
9879     muffler bearings..." he continued. Or maybe it's your deisel glow plugs or
9880     your tire pressure..."
9881     Now Tim, also new to the flower shop felt the courage to chime in, "Or it could
9882     even be your cooling system. Sometimes a hose gets a crack."
9883     "My car smoked once and it was an oil leak, where the head gasket was spraying
9884     oil in the manifold." Hollered Larry
9885     "Hey lady, why don't you get your car the patch if it's smoking" chortled Glen.
9886     Well, the hollering went on into the evening, and the lady finally went to the
9887     gas station and found that the heater core had a tiny split and was repaired in
9888     three days for a cost of $175.23.
9889 root 1.387 %
9890 root 1.1 > Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
9891    
9892     Sicher, das macht der Inzest, und die Isolation!:)
9893 root 1.387 %
9894 root 1.1 > Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
9895    
9896     Stimmt, deswegen waren sie wohl auch die ersten, die Hitler hinterherliefen...
9897     :-(
9898 root 1.387 %
9899 root 1.1 >Mt 24,34 Wahrlich, ich sage euch: Dieses Geschlecht wird nicht vergehen, bis
9900     >dies alles geschieht.
9901     >Und es verging nicht.
9902    
9903     So what?
9904    
9905     Ich dachte eher an:
9906    
9907     " 'Und sein Wabbel wird an einer Lanze aufgespiesst', wiederholte der
9908     Oberste Groesste Meister grimmig. Im Hintergrund knarrte etwas, als
9909     Bruder Pfoertner versuchte, das klemmende Portal zu oeffnen. 'Sind wir
9910     jetzt alle soweit? Befinden sich vielleicht noch andere Unwissende
9911     unter uns,die sich verirrt haben?' fuegte er mit aetzendem Sarkasmus
9912     hinzu. 'Gut. Wunderbar. Ich bin ja _so_ froh. Vermutlich brauche ich
9913     nicht zu fragen, ob die vier Wachtuerme geschlossen sind, oder? Oh,
9914     ausgezeichnet. Hat sich jemand die Muehe gemacht, der Heiligen Hose
9915     die Beichte abzunehmen? Ach, tatsaechlich? Auf die richtige Art und
9916     Weise? Und wenn ich nachsehe? Na schoen. Sind vor den Fenstern die
9917     roten Kordeln des Intellekts gespannt worden? Gut. Nun, dann koennen
9918     wir jetzt vielleicht beginnen.' ".
9919    
9920     Terry Pratchett, "Wachen! Wachen!", S. 15f
9921    
9922     Antje
9923 root 1.387 %
9924 root 1.1 [....]
9925    
9926     Da muss ich ja, obwohl ich beinahe meinen Humor verloren haette, leise
9927     grinsen. Ich darf zusammenfassen: Du bringst uns keine Beweise, weil Du 1.
9928     zu arm und 2. zu sehr ausgelastet mit der Rettung der Welt und der Zukunft
9929     und so bist. Ausserdem brauchst Du keine Beweise, weil sich Dein
9930     Gedankengebaeude nach eingehender Nabelschau als selbsttragend erwiesen hat.
9931     Finde ich gut! Akzeptiert!
9932    
9933     Da will ich nicht weiter stoeren,
9934    
9935     Antje
9936 root 1.387 %
9937 root 1.1 It seems that writing to /dev/vcs0 makes the console singing "Ugh,
9938     lalala, I love you baby..."
9939     --
9940     Pavel.Janik@inet.cz
9941 root 1.387 %
9942 root 1.1 On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Linus Torvalds wrote:
9943     >
9944     > Kubys
9945    
9946     Kubys is my evil twin brother. Sorry about that.
9947    
9948     Linus
9949 root 1.387 %
9950 root 1.1 > eieio stands for "Enforce In-Order Execution of I/O".
9951    
9952     .... and it is definitely my favorite name for an assembly language
9953     instruction (the non-native-English speakers on the list presumably
9954     don't know the childhood song "Old McDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O").
9955 root 1.387 %
9956 root 1.1 > It is *big* and never uses.
9957    
9958     That's parses like English, but I'll be hornswoggled if I can figure
9959     out what it means.
9960     --
9961     Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
9962 root 1.387 %
9963 root 1.1 [...] HP's PA-8500, for example, has 1.5 Mbytes of L1 cache on-chip. The
9964     company has described the 8500 as a cache SRAM with an ancillary CPU. [...]
9965 root 1.387 %
9966 root 1.1 From: Dave Cinege <dcinege@psychosis.com>
9967     Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:10:31 -0400
9968    
9969     Terry L Ridder wrote:
9970    
9971     > at some future date end up being released under the BSD License is what
9972     > is being discussed.
9973    
9974     Well my licence is bigger then your licence.
9975 root 1.387 %
9976 root 1.1 [gtk/testgtk, after dragging & dropping an object:]
9977    
9978     Drop data of type text/plain was:
9979    
9980     Bill Gates demands royalties for your use of his innovation
9981    
9982     [and the button reads]
9983    
9984     Continue with life in spite of this oppression
9985 root 1.387 %
9986 root 1.1 Joshua Waxman <jwaxman@ymail.yu.edu> writes:
9987    
9988     While DJGPP is indeed a C as well as a C compiler, there are certain
9989    
9990     A terribly succinct, as well as a true, statement. However, it has a
9991     certain amount of redundancy.
9992 root 1.387 %
9993 root 1.1 Compatibility with oneself is Microsoft's greatest strength. When they hit
9994     the 64 bit transition they will hit a major internal incompatibility problem.
9995    
9996     ...
9997    
9998     Peter da Silva <peter@baileynm.com>
9999 root 1.387 %
10000 root 1.1 >Hello,
10001     >
10002     >I am new to Perl. Can anyone tell me where I can download a full
10003     >operational Perl version for a Windows 95 system?
10004     >
10005    
10006     Of course it all depends on what you mean by "a full operational Perl
10007     version" Perl on Win32 has limitations that are largely due to the
10008     nature of the underlying OS, Perl on Win95 has further limitations
10009     compared with NT due to its own shortcomings .
10010 root 1.387 %
10011 root 1.1 An injunction delaying Windows 98 would clearly have a negative impact
10012     on the country as a whole.
10013     Compaq President & CEO Eckhard Pfeiffer,
10014     explaining why Microsoft shouldn't be
10015     prosecuted under anti-monopoly laws.
10016 root 1.387 %
10017 root 1.1 With a PC, I always felt limited by the software available. On Unix, I am
10018     limited by my knowledge. --Peter J. Schoenster <pschon@baste.magibox.net>
10019 root 1.387 %
10020 root 1.1 There is a need to keep from being locked into Open Systems. --IBM sales rep
10021 root 1.387 %
10022 root 1.1 In comp.lang.perl.misc,
10023     Stylin <stylinsty@yahoo.comREMOVE> writes:
10024     :Can anyone point me to the algorithm for creating a unique id?
10025    
10026     $id = `cat /dev/kmem`;
10027    
10028     --tom
10029     --
10030     Real programmers can write assembly code in any language. :-)
10031     --Larry Wall in <8571@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>
10032 root 1.387 %
10033 root 1.1 Newsgroup: comp.lang.perl.misc
10034     Subject: Larry 1 Bill 0
10035 root 1.387 %
10036 root 1.1 On 3 Jul 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
10037    
10038     > The only problem with these AIs is that they don't handle references
10039     > to themselves as AIs very well. In faSegmentation fault (core dumped)
10040     > NO CARRIER
10041     > !@*&#@#%T^@&*(GU*SD*(@!&*(@#R(*FERHGH*(@#(&$&#@Y!&R
10042 root 1.387 %
10043 root 1.1 > People come here to ask questions, not for intellectual gratification, but
10044     > rather they are seeking solutions. As such, the incorrect answer was
10045     > better.
10046    
10047     There's something... terribly wrong with this statement. I can't quite put
10048     my finger on it. Hmmm.
10049 root 1.387 %
10050 root 1.1 comp.lang.c does not exist to accomodate the laziness of those who cannot be
10051     bothered to learn netiquette. That's what comp.lang.c++ is for.
10052 root 1.387 %
10053 root 1.1 |> : > but... a microwave is an example of an embedded system,
10054     |>
10055     |> : Who says? He just said it was a microwave. He didn't say it was
10056     |> : a free-standing implimentation.
10057     |>
10058     |> This is approaching arguing for the sake of argument. Have you
10059     |> ever seen a microwave oven that supports a hosted C environment?
10060    
10061     The Lipton Ritchie Model 8 did. I'm sure that many posters will
10062     point out that Lipton's implementation of the stdio libraries was
10063     horrendously buggy. It was, but it was still a great system. It
10064     remains the only C implementation I know of that could be used to
10065     build Bison, and then cook it.
10066    
10067     Viva la buffalo burgers.
10068 root 1.387 %
10069 root 1.1 A strategically-placed PDP-11 can be used to heat your entire
10070     home. I've got one in my basement, next to a large box of "She's
10071     The Sheriff" drink coasters. I sold my furnace years ago. The
10072     Digital Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning Corporation
10073     can be found online at http://www.dhvacc.com/.
10074 root 1.387 %
10075 root 1.1 The lbxproxy program has various options, all of which are optional.
10076     -- lbxproxy(1)
10077 root 1.387 %
10078 root 1.1 Re: Where to learn Windows programming...
10079    
10080     |> I'll take a Schildt book any day, thanks.
10081    
10082     Great. I'm expecting to see the line above as a back-cover blurb
10083     on the next "Bullschildt: The Complete Reference".
10084 root 1.387 %
10085 root 1.1 Subject: Re: The wrong position of while, if and else?
10086    
10087     that's some ugly piece of code buddy...
10088 root 1.387 %
10089 root 1.1 In article <1998062718481700.OAA03186@ladder01.news.aol.com>, eyrei@aol.com (EYREI) writes:
10090     |> I have recently started learning the C Language. I have created a simple file
10091     |> to determine whether or not a number is Prime. When I run it, the program
10092     |> crashes with the error message :- Unhandled Exception :- General Protection
10093     |> Exception 0x5FD7:0x379F. Prime(1) Processor Fault.
10094    
10095     |> What does this mean.
10096    
10097     It means you've got a broken operating system, and should immediately
10098     install [free|net|open]BSD[OS] or Linux.
10099 root 1.387 %
10100 root 1.1 Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
10101    
10102     On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Emulov wrote:
10103     > Hi, i don't know if this is a stupid question..
10104    
10105     Off-topic, too! Imagine that.
10106 root 1.387 %
10107 root 1.1 "Right now we are the most shit hot piece of PC networking software on the
10108     planet. The only people who can touch us are FreeBSD (who also dont do
10109     streams)."
10110     -- Alan Cox, in "Streams and Linux"
10111 root 1.387 %
10112 root 1.1 "Perl combines all of the worst aspects of BASIC, C and line noise."
10113     - Keith Packard <keithp@ncd.com>
10114 root 1.387 %
10115 root 1.1 Lord Fellatio <richter_m@hotmail.com>
10116    
10117     >Wo soll das Loch denn dann sein? Im Meeresboden?
10118    
10119     Klaro.
10120    
10121     >Von oben duerfte man es also ueberhaupt nicht sehen
10122     >koennen, da ueber dem potentiellen Loch im Meeresboden doch
10123     >wahrscheinlich erstmal Wasser und dann viel Eis liegen wuerde. Wie
10124     >verhindern die Ausserirdischen denn, dass Wasser ins Loch einstroemt?
10125    
10126 root 1.388 Na ist doch völlig logo, mit nem rotierenden Traktorstrahl. Die
10127 root 1.1 Energie klauen die ?r***e dem Erdmagnetfeld.
10128    
10129     >Gibt es da einen kosmischen Badewannenstoepsel? Haben sie es mit
10130     >Eisbergen verstopft? Oder benutzen sie das einstroemende Wasser zu
10131     >Kajakfahrten bis hinunter zum Suedpol? (Das waere doch auch endlich
10132     >mal eine einleuchtende Erklaerung fuer die Eismassen, die die
10133     >Antarktis bedecken - man muesste halt nur, der Kontinentaldrift
10134     >folgend, immer wieder neue Schaechte bohren. Oder die Kontinentaldrift
10135     >einfach wegdiskutieren...)
10136    
10137     Die enorme Zentrifugalkraft im Erdinnern schleudert das Wasser wieder
10138     am Nordpolpol raus, falls der Traktorstrahl versagen sollte (Dies
10139     passiert immer dann, wenn das Erdmagnetfeld umkippt). Nun kommt sicher
10140 root 1.388 der Einwand, die Erde würde zu langsam rotieren. Das ist nur bedingt
10141     richtig. Richtig ist hingegen, daß die Rotationsgeschwindigkeit im
10142     Erdinnern um den Faktor 1000 (ca; sehr schwer zu messen: Magma) größer
10143     ist als auf der Erdoberfläche. Dies ist auch die Ursache für die
10144 root 1.1 Kontinentaldrift und die Mondphasen.
10145    
10146     Die Mondphasen wiederum beeinflussen das Erdmagnetfeld und sind daher
10147 root 1.388 die Ursache für die Sonnenflecken. Den Sonnenflecken haben wir auch
10148     die momentane Klimaveränderung zu verdanken. Auf der anderen Seite hat
10149     die Zunahme der Treibhausgase eine Erhöhung des Reflektionsvermögens
10150     der Atmosphäre zur Folge, welches dazu führt, daß ein Teil der
10151     Sonnenenergie zur Sonne zurückreflektiert wird. Dies heizt wiederum
10152     die Sonnenflecken auf und verkürzt deren Zyklus. All dies wird sich in
10153     den nächten Monaten so aufschaukeln, daß vorraussichtlich im Novemner
10154 root 1.1 2002 das Erdmagnetfeld zusammenbrechen wird. Wie damals bei den Dinos.
10155     Nur war dort ein Kometeneinschlag die Ursache.
10156    
10157     cu in hell 2002
10158 root 1.387 %
10159 root 1.1 "Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '85, Windows '95"
10160 root 1.387 %
10161 root 1.1 >In unix, one might say 'man 3 crypt'.
10162    
10163     Of course, on a Solaris system this won't give you what you want. You
10164     get a message that it can't find the man page for 3. It then prints
10165     the man page for crypt(1).
10166    
10167     Of course, all a beginner has to do is figure out that the 3 is the
10168     section number in the Unix manual. He can then use man man to find
10169     that on Solaris one uses -s to specify the section so he'll try
10170    
10171     man -s3 crypt
10172    
10173     Unfortunately, that doesn't work either. He'll get the message "No
10174     entry for crypt in section(s) 3 of the manual."
10175    
10176     If he doesn't give up, he can go back to the manual page for man and
10177     find that the -a switch prints all matching manual pages. Or perhaps
10178     he can figure out to use the command
10179    
10180     man -s3 Intro.3
10181    
10182     to get a list of everything in section 3. He'll then find out that
10183     crypt is in section 3C so he should use
10184    
10185     man -s3c crypt
10186    
10187     Gee. I don't understand why beginners have so much trouble with this
10188     stuff. I've only been programming Unix for 15 years and I don't have
10189     any trouble.
10190     --
10191     Michael M Rubenstein
10192 root 1.387 %
10193 root 1.1 Take a moment to consider these lines:
10194    
10195     %OVERLOAD=( '""' => sub { join("", @{$_[0]}) } );
10196    
10197     sub html { my($type)=shift; bless ["<$type>", @_, "</$type>"]; }
10198    
10199     :-) I *love* Perl 5! Thankyou Larry and Ilya.
10200    
10201     Regards,
10202     Tim Bunce.
10203    
10204     p.s. If you didn't get it, think about recursive data types: html(html())
10205     p.p.s. I'll turn this into a much more practical example in a day or two.
10206     p.p.p.s. It's a pity that overloads are not inherited. Is this a bug?
10207 root 1.387 %
10208 root 1.1 From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10209    
10210     ...
10211    
10212     > now is evil". This only shows two things: you never looked at the bad
10213     > experiences of the industry where following a rotten design and
10214     > keeping backward compatibility lead to unusable systems. And second:
10215    
10216     I worked for 3com. I know eveyrhting about following a rotten design until
10217     its unusable, believe me I do.
10218 root 1.387 %
10219 root 1.1 Ok(slow) -> !NeedComputer
10220    
10221     Semour Cray
10222 root 1.387 %
10223 root 1.1 Ullrich Jans at University of Karlsruhe, Germany:
10224    
10225     Oh Gott! Es ist voller crons!
10226 root 1.387 %
10227 root 1.1 From: p00h <p00h@MONMOUTH.COM>
10228     Subject: Re: AOL for Windows DoS/Exploit
10229    
10230     aol supports PARTIAL html, its like win95's implementation of tcp/ip
10231     it only supports parts of it
10232 root 1.387 %
10233 root 1.1 egcs/gcc/gcse.c:
10234     /* Help stamp out big monolithic functions! */
10235 root 1.387 %
10236 root 1.1 [...] Yes, I'm being sarcastic. Especially regarding HPPA assembler syntax
10237     as provided by HP, which was designed by someone who should not have been
10238     let near a language-design project like that, too often "little languages",
10239     whether assemblers, tools, or C++, are designed by people who are unaware
10240     of, or give little thought to, the outright readability of code written in
10241     the language, in the sense that the basic semantics should be fairly obvious
10242     *without* the reader having to memorize lots of semantic information.
10243    
10244     (In HPPA assembler's case, one glaring stupidity was the nullified branches,
10245     which have completely different semantics depending on whether the label
10246     being branched to happens to assemble to a negative or positive offset! A
10247     smarter design would have required the programmer to specify whether such a
10248     branch was a "forward" or "backward" branch explicitly, then the assembler
10249     and/or linker would complain if reality didn't match the programmer's
10250     specification. I've never looked into whether GNU's HPPA as fixes this
10251     botch; I gather GNU as fixes many botches, though, so it wouldn't surprise
10252     me if it did, even though that might make for some compatibility problems
10253     with existing HP as code.) [...]
10254    
10255     tq vm, (burley)
10256 root 1.387 %
10257 root 1.1 libc/posix/regex.h:
10258     /* The following two types have to be signed and unsigned integer type
10259     wide enough to hold a value of a pointer. For most ANSI compilers
10260     ptrdiff_t and size_t should be likely OK. Still size of these two
10261     types is 2 for Microsoft C. Ugh... */
10262     typedef long int s_reg_t;
10263     typedef unsigned long int active_reg_t;
10264 root 1.387 %
10265 root 1.1 libc/db2/db.h:
10266     /*
10267     * While Microsoft's compiler is ANSI C compliant, it doesn't have _STDC_
10268     * defined by default, you specify a command line flag or #pragma to turn
10269     * it on. Don't do that, however, because some of Microsoft's own header
10270     * files won't compile.
10271     */
10272 root 1.387 %
10273 root 1.1 > UTC variation and begining and ending dates of DST (if observed) would be
10274     > great.
10275    
10276     I answered only the places I can comment on.
10277    
10278     > BASSAS DA INDIA
10279    
10280     This rock is below water half of the time!
10281     If any inhabitants have been there, I do not think they observe DST
10282     on a regular basis! ;-)
10283 root 1.387 %
10284 root 1.1 # ./test-plugin.pl
10285     Bizarre copy of CODE in sassign at /root/.gimp/plug-ins/test-plugin.pl line 40.
10286     wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)
10287 root 1.387 %
10288 root 1.1 >
10289     > The "where do you want to go today?" generation has taken the
10290     > developer out of the "programmer" by removing the vital, development
10291     > tools from the environment and precanning software.
10292    
10293     No kidding. Point. Click. Point. Click. Point. Click. Brain Atrophy.
10294 root 1.387 %
10295 root 1.1 Lars Chr Hausmann <36haus@but.auc.dk> writes:
10296    
10297     >Hello!
10298    
10299     >I have to write something about, what Perl is.
10300     >I need some crystal clear info about, what perl is. So if any of you
10301     >would be so kind just to mail. Then I would be grateful!
10302    
10303    
10304     Perl.
10305    
10306     regards
10307     jobst
10308 root 1.387 %
10309 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Cyrix 6x86MX and Centaur C6 CPUs in 2.1.102
10310     From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10311     Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:31:02 +0100 (BST)
10312    
10313     > Well, that depends. They SHOULD be. By Intel 'standards' *laff*, they have
10314     > to be identical stepping, indicating identical features. However, I've
10315    
10316     They don't. Pentiums have fairly strict rules, P6/PII much less. Also Intel
10317     are pretty good at following the MP 1.1/1.4 standard its the motherboard
10318     makers who get it wrong - primarily the BIOS is full of bugs. It appears
10319     nobody tests bios code against specs any more. It looks like they do
10320     compile flash, boot 95, boot NT, ship. The quality of bios code has dived to
10321     the absolute pits.
10322 root 1.387 %
10323 root 1.1 Unix never says `Please.' -- Rob Pike
10324 root 1.387 %
10325 root 1.1 > What about: . scriptname
10326     > ------------------^ this is a dot!
10327    
10328     Funny, it looks like a "p" to me.
10329 root 1.387 %
10330 root 1.1 A computer without Microsoft and IBM is like chocolate cake without
10331     ketchup and mustard
10332 root 1.387 %
10333 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Challange for perl `GURUS
10334    
10335     vimal gajjar wrote:
10336     >
10337     > Hi there,
10338     > Here is a small challange. Is it possible to have a perl
10339     > code which takes e.g. three parameters as input. time, val1, val2. and
10340     > the name of the prog. is say challange.pl. Now if i execute
10341     > "challange.pl 10 5 2" this perl script wille consume
10342     > 5% of cpu
10343     > 2 Mb of RAM
10344     > for the period of 10 Seconds.
10345     >
10346     > can one of the gurus take this challange?
10347    
10348     Examining the 5 copies of this post has consumed 5% of the
10349     brain power I allocate to reviewing c.l.p.m, about 10 seconds, and
10350     has caused the death of 2 million brain cells.
10351 root 1.387 %
10352 root 1.1 > >> /A:You can usually write the program faster than you can
10353     > >> dial/dl/hangup/install/read docs/fix it/fix the fix/.
10354     >
10355     > >s/usually/never/
10356     >
10357     > s/sometimes/never/
10358    
10359     Cute. You embarrass yourself by your ignorance of perl.
10360 root 1.387 %
10361 root 1.1 :That's probably true, but I really can't speak to it. But, if there
10362     :were no *nix around, there'd be no Perl. Nor would there be a need for
10363     :Perl, IMO.
10364    
10365     Gotta love them JCL and ini dot bat dot bad dot doo dah files.
10366    
10367     TC
10368 root 1.387 %
10369 root 1.1 'cc:Mail is a wonderful application, as long as you don't want to read or send mail.'
10370 root 1.387 %
10371 root 1.1 shurik@iron.Te.NeT.UA - Alexandr Dubovikov at TeNeT Networking Centre
10372    
10373     Hi guys!
10374    
10375     How check socket, alive it or die ?
10376 root 1.387 %
10377 root 1.1 --> Questions not to ask on linux-kernel <--
10378    
10379     Miscellaneous flame-wars:
10380     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
10381     12) The gnome-kde debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
10382     13) The emacs-vi debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
10383     14) Porting linux to run under windows is not interesting.
10384     15) Whether a given intel CISC chip "is really RISC" is not interesting.
10385 root 1.387 %
10386 root 1.1 Subject: what a week!
10387     From: "C. Scott Ananian" <cananian@lcs.mit.edu>
10388     Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 03:13:23 -0400 (EDT)
10389    
10390     unicode, boot-logos, GGI, STREAMS, the necessity of a short devel cycle
10391     and the instability of 2.0.x, "ifconfig stopped working", "you really *do*
10392     need to remove 'encaps'", Linus' tarball practices... it seems like we're
10393     running out of things to flame off on. Here's my humble contribution:
10394    
10395     I'VE MADE A KEWL NEW CHARSET THAT I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD USE. IT HAS ALL
10396     THE LETTERS IN MY LOGIN MAPPED TO THE LOWEST 16 CHARACTERS SO WE CAN
10397     COMPRESS THINGS REAL GOOD AND THE LETTERS IN MY BROTHER B1FF'S NAME ARE
10398     ALL IN HIGH ASCII CUZ THAT'S WHERE LOSERS BELONG!!!2!!7
10399    
10400     I ONLY USE EMACS AND I THINK VI SUX!!$231!!
10401    
10402     GNOME RULES AND KDE IS DEMON-SPAWN BECAUSE IT IS NOT FREE.! !
10403    
10404     WE NEED KGI IN THE KERNEL (NOT LIBGGI, NOT THE TERMINAL IMPROVEMENTS
10405     WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED) IN ORDER TO HAVE WAY KEWL BOOT LOGOS AND RUN MY
10406     BROTHER B1FF'S GAMES!!1!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!11!!!
10407    
10408     I USE A BIG-ENDIAN MACHINE BECAUSE THEY RULE. LITTLE-ENDIAN MACHINES ARE
10409     EVIL. AND A PENTIUM *IS* A RISC PROCESSOR!!!
10410    
10411     WE SHOULD PORT LINUX TO WINDOWS SO WE CAN USE ALL THE KEWL HARDWARE
10412     DRIVERS!!!!!@@#!
10413    
10414     Did I miss any? ;-)
10415    
10416     *Please* don't respond seriously to this email. It's a joke. A joke.
10417     Laugh. Please.
10418    
10419     And then let's kill all the flaming threads, shall we?
10420     --Scott
10421 root 1.387 %
10422 root 1.1 > Well, /proc/kcore already reports its actual size...
10423    
10424     And it isn't about to change at runtime either. That is the size of
10425     installed memory. I've yet to see a single person successfully insert or
10426     remove a SIMM/DIMM while a machine was running. If they did, and it was
10427     successful, the linux code will update the filesize. ;o)
10428 root 1.387 %
10429 root 1.1 Toby Heywood (toby@he-net.demon.co.uk) wrote:
10430     : This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
10431    
10432     One of those 'M's stands for Mail.
10433    
10434     This is not mail.
10435    
10436     This is Usenet.
10437    
10438     Please post only plain text like everyone else does.
10439 root 1.387 %
10440 root 1.1 ------------ etienne.lorrain@ibm.net
10441     --- hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
10442     --- ide1: reset: success
10443     -----------> I like Linux !
10444 root 1.387 %
10445 root 1.1 > I have experienced people walking up to my console and saying "What
10446     > the hell does that mean" in sheer terror as the machine boots.
10447    
10448     Tell them it's magic, and earn the respect of your colleagues. I always
10449     do.
10450 root 1.387 %
10451 root 1.1 ++ Actually, I'm not at a loss for words. Here's one that's very appropriate:
10452     ++ PLONK.
10453 root 1.387 %
10454 root 1.1 ++ > SSI is *not* HTML.
10455     Re: Subraumfunk
10456    
10457     Ja, ein Handy waere da praktisch. Die hoeheren Gebuehren rechnen sich,
10458     wenn man ueber die Grenzen des Sonnensystems hinaus telefonieren will.
10459    
10460     Die Telekom wuerde da wieder mal erbarmungslos abzocken. Ich kann es
10461     mir schon vorstellen: SunSystem-Tarif, vielleicht auch einen
10462     InnerPlanets-Sondertarif, dann einen LocalGroupWeekend-Specialtarif,
10463     eine Supercluster-Zone und so weiter. Und wenn es auf der Venus
10464     schneit, telefonieren alle fuer die Haelfte.
10465 root 1.387 %
10466 root 1.1 > > Vergiss es. Du wirst nie und nimmer von Armando eine
10467     > > konkrete, verwertbare Antwort bekommen.
10468     >
10469     > Doch, man bekommt von mir sogar sehr viele Antworten.
10470    
10471     Du hast gerade zwei Adjektive weggelassen.
10472 root 1.387 %
10473 root 1.1 ++ Oh yeah. Show me an example of SSI used outside of HTML.
10474     Show me an HTML DTD mentioning SSI directives.
10475 root 1.387 %
10476 root 1.1 Namsuk Kim wrote:
10477     > Is there a way to convert a scalar data to Acii data format?
10478    
10479     I am not familar with ACII. If you mean ASCII, then the question I have is
10480     - is the data in EBCDIC now?
10481    
10482     Bill Jones
10483 root 1.387 %
10484 root 1.1 GNU/getopt.c:
10485    
10486     #if defined (WIN32) && !defined (__CYGWIN32__)
10487     /* It's not Unix, really. See? Capital letters. */
10488     #include <windows.h>
10489     #define getpid() GetCurrentProcessId()
10490     #endif
10491 root 1.387 %
10492 root 1.1 Subject: IIS 4.0, PW32i316, CGI Programs
10493    
10494     Perlis.dll does not pass command line arguments correctly via the web. That
10495     is, invoking the URL
10496    
10497     http://www.myserver.com/myprogram.pl?Argument1&Argument2...&Argumentn
10498    
10499     causes the myprogram.pl to execute, but @ARGV is empty.
10500 root 1.387 %
10501 root 1.1 "You need to use CGI."
10502     "I am using CGI, it's a CGI application!"
10503     "No, no, *use* CGI. The directive 'use'."
10504     "OK, so what directive do I use?"
10505     "No, no, you *use* *use*. Use CGI."
10506     "I *am* using CGI!"
10507    
10508     Craig Berry - cberry@cinenet.net
10509 root 1.387 %
10510 root 1.1 > > Was haltet Ihr von Killfile-mailing-lists, dass sich die Leute mal
10511     > > kennenlernen koennen?
10512     >
10513 root 1.388 > Gute Idee ;-), wäre ich sofort dabei, datrifft man wahrscheinlich ne
10514 root 1.1 > Menge tolle Leute... ;-) und die wahren Freidenker.
10515    
10516     Einige Freidenker sicher, aber auch etliche Denkfreie.
10517 root 1.387 %
10518 root 1.1 "I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big or
10519     professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones." -- Linus Torvalds 1991
10520 root 1.387 %
10521 root 1.1 If it's a floppy, it might be a copy.
10522     If it's a disk, you're also at risk.
10523     If it's a pirate, the vendors are irate.
10524     To avoid such frustration, try: Free Software Foundation.
10525 root 1.387 %
10526 root 1.1 From: David Woodhouse <Dave@imladris.demon.co.uk>
10527    
10528     pcg@goof.com said:
10529     > It was much more than I usally get! It was _great_
10530    
10531     Hehe - I know the feeling.
10532    
10533     "It's broken."
10534     "What's wrong with it?."
10535     "I don't know - it just doesn't work."
10536     "Well what do you mean by 'it's broken'?"
10537     "It just doesn't work."
10538     "How can you _tell_ it's broken, for f***'s sake - what are the symptoms!?"
10539     "It gives an error message."
10540     "Would you care to tell me what it says?"
10541     "It says.... something about there being an error."
10542     "That's not very helpful. Tell me it word for word."
10543     "It says 'Unable to handle kernel NULL reference at something or other'"
10544     "That's not word for word. It said 'NULL pointer dereference.' Try again,
10545     letter for letter this time."
10546 root 1.387 %
10547 root 1.1 From: "Paul B. Henson" <henson@INTRANET.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
10548    
10549     After installing Solaris 2.6 HW3/98, I discovered that /usr/bin/admintool
10550     had been installed mode 0777, world writable. Under the original release of
10551     2.6, the mode was 04555.
10552    
10553     Sun has been notified of the problem. If you're running 2.6 HW3/98, you
10554     might want to verify your admintool hasn't been tampered with and fix the
10555     perms.
10556    
10557     (Personally, I'd set them to 0000 ;). admintool? blech.)
10558 root 1.387 %
10559 root 1.1 From: verah@netscape.com (Vera Horiuchi)
10560     Subject: Re: Risp: drama (Re: Do It Yourself)
10561    
10562     Americans ignorant of the rest of the world?
10563    
10564     I must tell a favorite story here. A friend and I were purchasing a gift
10565     for another friend who lives in Canada. I was speculating out loud about
10566     how much duty our Canadian friend would have to pay.
10567    
10568     The cashier said, "Oh, I'm sure Canadians don't have to pay any duty. We
10569     ship to Hawaii all the time, and _they_ don't have to pay duty." =:-0
10570 root 1.387 %
10571 root 1.388 >am besten ist z.Z. das Buch von Michael Neufeld. Wer aber Wissenslücken
10572     >verspürt (was keine Schande ist), sollte diese zu stopfen suchen und nicht
10573 root 1.1 >Zuflucht zu absolut hirnrissigen Theorien suchen.
10574    
10575     Hirnrissig bist Du. Das es einen Zeittransfer aus der Zukunft zu den Nazis
10576     gab deckt sich mit dazu passenden Entschluesselungen bestimmter Bibelstellen
10577     und mit der dann tatsaechlichen notwendigen Geheimhaltung. Es deckt sich
10578     ueberdies damit, dass die Unterhaltung uns den Gedanken zunehmend nahelegt,
10579     also vorbereitet, und dass es bereits ein wissenschaftliches Experiment gab,
10580     bei dem ERST die Wirkung auftrat und DANN die Ursache. Die Zeitreise ist
10581     also Fakt. Und es ist sicher, dass Jemand per Zeitreise den Nazis helfen
10582     wollte. Gelegentliche Theorien, dass auch diese ausserirdische Hilfe gehabt
10583     haetten sollen nur davon ablenken, eine andere Erklaerung liefern. Das ist
10584     logisch, denn die Taeter sitzen ja irgendwo in unserer Zeit und moechten
10585     sicher nicht erkannt werden.
10586    
10587     Du scheinst die simpelsten Grundzuege der Zeitlogik nicht verstehen zu wollen.
10588    
10589     normarz@aol.com
10590 root 1.387 %
10591 root 1.1 >Oder anders gesagt:
10592 root 1.388 >Glaubst Du, Du könntest mit einem hochmodernen Maschinengewehr eine römische
10593 root 1.1 >Legion
10594     >schlagen?
10595    
10596     Klar. Frage mal Cortez.
10597    
10598     Bye
10599     Andreas
10600 root 1.387 %
10601 root 1.1 >Article 2B is a threat to anyone who uses a computer. I just wanted to
10602    
10603     It may be a threat to any american using a computer. Fortunately, the U.S.
10604     justice does not yet apply outside the U.S.A.
10605    
10606     I.a.W.: You're currently creating a lot of happy non-U.S. software
10607     companies.
10608    
10609     Kind regards
10610     Henning
10611 root 1.387 %
10612 root 1.1 From: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>
10613     Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:14:11 -0700
10614     Subject: Re: driver for Creative Labs DVD kits
10615    
10616     At least with the IDE DVD drive that I have, plugging it directly
10617     into an IDE port and using the regular Linux ide-cd driver works just fine
10618     for reading [...] CD and the [not] copy protected sections of the DVD's.
10619    
10620     There is a protocol that the hardware decoder boards use to
10621     tell the DVD drive that they are a licensed implementation and should
10622     be allowed to read the copy protected sectors as well. I have been
10623     told that this protocol can be done entirely in software with a
10624     standard IDE port. Hopefully, somebody will reverse engineer this and
10625     make it a demand loaded kernel module. (Seriously, there is a lot
10626     that you are allowed to do with copyrighted material that this sort of
10627     hardware restriction prevents, and there are other important political
10628     issues involved relating to your rights to do as you please with the
10629     computer equipment that you bought and paid for.)
10630 root 1.387 %
10631 root 1.1 Where do you want to go today?
10632     We might support that sometime next year.
10633     -=- Microsoft
10634     (But I doubt it.)
10635     -=- Me
10636     -=- James Mastros
10637 root 1.387 %
10638 root 1.1 Hello570 <hello570@aol.com> wrote:
10639     > I tried printing a line to a file using both of the
10640     > following methods, but the output was split into two
10641     >lines.
10642    
10643     If you don't want newlines in the middle of your string, then don't
10644     put newlines in the middle of your string.
10645 root 1.387 %
10646 root 1.1 http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/Dean_Roehrich/subjects.post
10647 root 1.387 %
10648 root 1.1 Einstein himself said that God doesn't roll dice. But he was wrong. And
10649     in fact, anyone who has played role-playing games knows that God
10650     probably had to roll quite a few dice to come up with a character like
10651     Einstein. -- Larry Wall
10652 root 1.387 %
10653 root 1.1 From: Ragnar Hojland Espinosa <root@lightside.ddns.org>
10654    
10655     My $0.02 Euros on internationalization? I'm in Spain and my keyboard is
10656     mosty US mapped because the Spanish map is really awkward for programming.
10657     Computers were designed to be funcional, not politically (or locally)
10658     correct (hm, I don't think HAL ever spoke Russian). This "computers are easy
10659     for all" GUI related trend has done a lot of money, and lot of damage; at
10660     least command line OSes forced the user to actually learn something and
10661     absorb information. The user assumed so, so he did. Now he doesn't, and
10662     it's not all his fault.
10663    
10664     The WWW is full of useless (and ugly) graphics, of useless links to links to
10665     pages with links to links which usually end up in a huge links page. Of
10666     course, there are some jewels.. but they should be majority! It's
10667     understandable, when the tools and languages focus more on aspect that in
10668     content.
10669    
10670     Usenet is worse than ever, the interesting places have been ruined by
10671     spammers, c00l hak3rz, and more and more people asking (or demanding) for
10672     others doing their homework.. at least some time ago they were willing to
10673     learn (or pay for it;)
10674    
10675     IRC.. heh. The few times I've been on funet almost all I found is the same
10676     people in the above paragraph. And I do know some of them even run scripts
10677     to try denial of service or other destructive attacks on people they see,
10678     just for fun or to get the op.
10679    
10680     Email. Someone selling an "incredible program that allows you to bypass
10681     your ISP mail server, for only $89" (thats right, a smtp server). No OS
10682     mentioned, I somehow can guess which. And that stupid thing of sending
10683     mail to people in RTF and HTML format.. I'm gonna answer them in LaTeX.
10684    
10685     Internet, your ilimited junk yard.
10686    
10687     Using computers would make me real sad if it wasn't for UNIX and, of
10688     course, Linux and Linux people.
10689 root 1.387 %
10690 root 1.1 ... WNT == ++VMS . Literally. Dave Cutler created VMS,
10691     then he rewrote it as WNT.
10692    
10693     Ever used VMS? It's a step above DOS. Barely.
10694     --
10695     Clark O. Morgan cmorgan@aracnet.com
10696 root 1.387 %
10697 root 1.1 >Subject: If "=~" means match what is doesn't match?
10698    
10699     I heard that a friend of a friend might have once been told about a
10700     rumor that this information can be found in perlop, right next to
10701     where =~ is documented. (It's !~)
10702    
10703     I agree with Tom's assessment that the fall of modern man will be
10704     preceded by the de-evolution of communications to the days of oral
10705     tradition.
10706 root 1.387 %
10707 root 1.1 "Windows 95, the most installed system in the world,
10708     I know, I've done it 5 or 6 times myself"
10709 root 1.387 %
10710 root 1.1 The statistics programming language S, from AT&T, combines lazy
10711     evaluation with imperative programming. A nightmare.
10712 root 1.387 %
10713 root 1.1 "In 1965, as part of a research and development project for the
10714     U.S. Army, engineers at TRW Corp developed a software program
10715     called Generalized Information Retrieval Lanaguage and System."
10716     Or GIRLS for short.
10717 root 1.387 %
10718 root 1.1 Wissen bremst die Meinungsbildung voll aus.
10719 root 1.387 %
10720 root 1.1 I have an idea: Anybody who posts an URGENT! or EMERGENCY! request should
10721     post the circumstances behind the urgency. "I was having sex with my
10722     mistress in the server room and I knocked the Linux box over and the hard
10723     drive crashed and so I've reinstalled everything but I still can't get
10724     5_004_03 to build!"
10725    
10726     This would inspire me to action far more than the implied subtext of "I
10727     have no patience."
10728    
10729     xoxo,
10730     Andy
10731 root 1.387 %
10732 root 1.1 > I have Perl5 running on my pc.
10733     > and also front page98 and microsoft personal web server runnig.
10734     We all have our cross to bear.
10735 root 1.387 %
10736 root 1.1 (THIS IS LONG, YOU MAY WANT TO SKIP)
10737    
10738     From: mjd@plover.com (Mark-Jason Dominus)
10739     Date: 09 Nov 1995 02:57:30 GMT
10740     Subject: Re: system() question
10741    
10742     There are a lot of reasons, many of which get repeated over and
10743     over again, many of which don't. Some of the reasons you hear a lot
10744     are: Questions are incoherently phrased. Questions have the form 'My
10745     code doesn't work' and don't include the code. Questions include the
10746     code, and it's 200 lines long, and comp.lang.perl is not a debugging
10747     service. Nobody knows the answer to the question. The question is so
10748     badly punctuated that nobody can bear to read it. Questions aer
10749     written by a non-native speaker of English and the native speakers who
10750     are trying to understand it can't. (That's a shame, but it does
10751     happen. I often wish that these people would post in their native
10752     languages. I'd love to see more discussion in languages other than
10753     English. Some Dutch guy tried posting all his comp.lang.c articles in
10754     Dutch a few years ago, and all the Americans flamed him. How
10755     humiliating for me!)
10756    
10757     Apart from these oft-mentioned reasons are many others that are
10758     not so often discussed, because anyone who tries to bring them up gets
10759     flamed. But it's the truth: I know the reason I don't answer more
10760     questions is because so many of them questions are so damn stupid.
10761     They're stupid in a lot of different ways, but they're still stupid.
10762     I don't want to suggest that that's why your questions go unanswered.
10763     I don't know what you're asking. No doubt the reason your questions
10764     go unanswered is because they're so deep and interesting that nobody
10765     really knows the answer.
10766    
10767     The most common stupid question is the one from someone who has
10768     some high-level problem that they need solved. They have an idea that
10769     they'd like to do it in perl, and they don't really know perl. So
10770     instead of learning perl, they post to comp.lang.perl.misc.
10771    
10772     Now don't get me wrong. I don't have any problems answering the
10773     questions of someone who's trying to learn perl. I love THOSE
10774     qusetions. But these people don't seem to be asking useful questions
10775     for that.
10776    
10777     Today, for example, I saw a question from a guy who wants to get a
10778     list of hostnames out of nslookup. `How do I do that?' he says. And
10779     it's hard to know what to make of that. What does he mean? Does he
10780     not know how to open a pipe? Is his en' command failing? What's
10781     going on here? I can't give a useful answer without understanding the
10782     problem. Having your en' fail is a problem. Wanting to list
10783     hostnames is not a problem; it's a desire.
10784    
10785     Here are some similar questions that would have made more sense to me:
10786    
10787     1. `I'm a lazy asshole and I can't be bothered to learn to
10788     program myself, but I know if I post here you'll give me
10789     something for free.''
10790    
10791     (OK, fair enough. At least I can send him a rate card.)
10792    
10793     2. `I'm trying to use en' to talk to nslookup, but...
10794     ...here's my code; what's wrong?''
10795    
10796     (Good question.)
10797    
10798     3. `I know perl has a `System' command for running programs,
10799     but I can't see how to get my commands into nslookup
10800     once I have run it.''
10801     (Good question.)
10802    
10803     4. `I'm trying to use `Getprotobynumber' to talk to nslookup...''
10804    
10805     (Good question.)
10806    
10807     See, I'm not just biting people's heads off, here. #4 is a good
10808     question, because it gives me something to work with. OK, he has a
10809     very weird idea about interprocess communication, but that's
10810     ignorance, and that's what we're here to correct. He doesn't know
10811     about en'; I can refer him to the manual.
10812    
10813     Here's another example: Some guy wants to assemble a list of email
10814     addresses . `How do I do that?'' he wants to know. Well, duh. Get a
10815     big pad of paper and read news for a couple days and write down all
10816     the addresses you see. Problem solved. What's it doing in
10817     comp.lang.perl?
10818     Oh, you wanted to do it in perl. Well, I guess I'd open a socket
10819     to the NNTP server and send it some XHDR commands for the `From'
10820     lines. But that's not Perl; you could do that in any language. I
10821     could do it in Bourne Shell for you if I'm allowed to use a little
10822     external thingie to handle the socket parts for me. What's it doing
10823     in comp.lang.perl?
10824    
10825     Oh, you wanted us to write the program for you? Wait, let me send
10826     you my rate card.
10827    
10828     Someone posted yesterday asking how to get the data from a file where
10829     the start and end of the data is marked by keywords. Same thing going on
10830     here. `Well, here's how you solve your problem: First you go take an
10831     introductory class in programming and learn to write programs in some
10832     language. Then you go to the bookstore and buy this book by Wall and
10833     Schwartz, it's really good. Read the book carefully and try out the
10834     examples. Then if you still have general questions like `How do I do this'
10835     instead of thought that this code would do X but instead it does Y' you hire
10836     a professional to write your program for you. Or you could just skip right
10837     to step 3. Want my rate card?''
10838    
10839     The worst stupid questions are the ones that come from people who
10840     have no business asking them. The most perfect example of this that I
10841     could have imagined was in comp.unix.questions a couple of years ago.
10842     Some guy came and asked how you could tell if a file is a hard link.
10843     My jaw flapped open and it's stayed open since then. I couldn't have
10844     been any more stumped if he'd asked why Bodhidharma came from the
10845     West. What do you say to this guy? Do you tell him the truth, that
10846     all files are hard links, that even symbolic links are hard links?
10847     He's not going to understand you; you might as well keep your mouth
10848     shut. Do you tell him the truth, that the answer won't do him any
10849     good because he doesn't know what a hard link is, so why did he bother
10850     asking in the first place? No, that'll just make him mad. I followed
10851     that message for the next couple weeks, and nobody said anything.
10852     What could you say? The guy had no business asking the question and
10853     no use for the answer. Maybe the right answer would have been to cut
10854     off his finger or something. I dunno.
10855    
10856     Some questions get ignored because they're boring. Someone asked
10857     today how to compare two variables (I assumme he means the contents of
10858     those variables) to see if they're exactly the same. You've gotta be
10859     in an awfully good mood to take the time to answer that. Maybe
10860     someone will. Maybe I will.
10861    
10862     If I answer that one today, maybe he'll be back tomorrow asking
10863     how to check to see if two variables contain different values. Maybe
10864     I won't. What I find incredible is that if you tell these people to
10865     go read the manual and come back in two weeks, you sometimes get
10866     jumped on for not being helpful to beginners. Bah. If everyone told
10867     these people to go read the manual, they'd eventually figure out that
10868     that's what you have to do ,and then I wouldn't have to spend so much
10869     of my life dealing with incompetent programmers.
10870    
10871     Some questions are logically nonsensical because the querent
10872     thinks they know more than they do. A lot of these have the form
10873     `How do I use X to accomplish Y?'' There's nothing wrong with this,
10874     except that sometimes X is a chocolate-covered banana and Y is the
10875     integration of European currency systems. I always get stuck on
10876     these, probably because I can't get rid of the idea that the person
10877     really has a good reason for wanting to use X. I know a half-dozen
10878     easy simple ways to accomplish Y, but I can't imagine what X has to do
10879     with it. This is a problem for me in my day job, too. Clients are
10880     always saying to me `We want to use product X to do multimedia
10881     development on the world-wide web,'' and all I can think is `Well,
10882     gee, what would you want to go and do that for?'' Sometimes it turns
10883     out that they want to do it because they want to impress the
10884     manufacturers of X, and I don't work on those jobs.
10885    
10886     The flip side of this is a questions like `I want to accomplish
10887     X, but I don't want to use Y. What can I use instead?'' Which,
10888     again, is sometimes reasonable, and then sometimes X is closing a
10889     filehandle and Y is the `Close' function.
10890    
10891     The questions I like the best are the ones that go like this:
10892    
10893     `I want to accomplish X.
10894    
10895     I thought that the following code fragment would do it:
10896    
10897     ...
10898    
10899     But instead it does Y.
10900    
10901     Why is that?''
10902    
10903     This one is also pretty good:
10904    
10905     `I want to accomplish X.
10906     I thought I might be able to use facility Y.
10907    
10908     But Y doesn't seem like it's quite right,
10909     because of Z.
10910    
10911     What should I use instead of Y, or how can I overcome Z?''
10912    
10913     When I ignore these, it's usually because I don't know the answer.
10914     There were an awful lot of them today. It makes me very happy.
10915    
10916    
10917     There you go; a 160-line dissertation on why questions go unanswered.
10918     Now don't let me hear you saying nobody ever answers your questions.
10919    
10920     --
10921     Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
10922     The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
10923 root 1.387 %
10924 root 1.1 >> BTW, would it be easier to cope with international text using Python?
10925     >Sigh... you're breaking my heart. Ask Jack Jansen, he probably knows.
10926    
10927     If I were really evel, I would point out that the newest TCL (8.1) has
10928     support for international character sets and Unicode. But then, mentioning
10929     TCL in this newsfroup would be really bad. So, of course, I don't do that.
10930    
10931     Ups. I'm so sorry ... ;-)
10932    
10933     bye, Georg
10934 root 1.387 %
10935 root 1.1 I personally do not believe in object orientation as a security model
10936     (nor as a general programming paradigm), but feel free to try to
10937     convince me.
10938    
10939     [ Or maybe I confuse you with somebody else and some other posting ]
10940    
10941     Linus
10942 root 1.387 %
10943 root 1.1 ++ how can i strip new lines out at var.
10944     ++
10945    
10946     Removing new lines is very tricky, as the manual tells you so. Ignore the
10947     complicated things in the manual, and put in this neat little trick:
10948    
10949 root 1.85 $var=join+q,,,grep{ord$[[qq$\137$]]<10 or+10<ord}split+q,,,$var;
10950 root 1.1
10951     If you're old enough not to read the manual, you won't have a problem
10952     understanding the above line.
10953    
10954     Abigail
10955 root 1.387 %
10956 root 1.1 I fixed the problem by mounting the SCO volume on the SunOS box, and since
10957     1995 the problem has gone away together with the SCO machine.
10958 root 1.387 %
10959 root 1.1 ++ Hi Does anybody know how to upload many graphic files at the push of a
10960     ++ button?
10961     Yes.
10962    
10963     ++ 100 pictures or so?
10964     Yes.
10965    
10966     ++ Can I do it in Perl?
10967     Yes.
10968    
10969     Your question isn't Perl specific. Please ask in the relevant
10970     newsgroup. alt.button.play
10971    
10972     Abigail
10973 root 1.387 %
10974 root 1.1 perly gates - The way to perl; Enter hackerdom.
10975    
10976     perly Gates - Contradictio in Terminis.
10977    
10978     Martien
10979 root 1.387 %
10980 root 1.388 Ren hat weder von Sinnhaftigkeit noch von Kausalität geschrieben, sondern
10981     nur von Logik. Logik und Kausalität sind in unserem (normalen) Denken zwar
10982     eng miteinander verknüpft, sind aber nicht dasselbe. Sinn ist hingegen noch
10983     etwas Drittes und ganz verschiedenes! "Sinn" bedeutet mindestens, daß eine
10984 root 1.1 Sache eine gewisse Richtung hat, wie in "Uhrzeigersinn". Meistens bedeutet
10985 root 1.388 Sinn aber, daß eine Sache einen bestimmten Zweck erfüllt. Auch darf man
10986     nicht "verursachen" mit "begründen" verwechseln, weil die beiden
10987     unterschiedlich sind. Die Existenz muß auch keinen Sinn haben, um eine
10988     Ursache zu haben. Das sind zwei völlig voneinander unabhängige Sachen. Die
10989 root 1.1 Existenz hat einen Sinn, also eine Richtung, wenn wir unserer Existenz eine
10990 root 1.388 Richtung geben. Dieser Sinn kann auf etwas abzielen, was außerhalb unserer
10991     selbst steht, muß aber nicht... Sie kann auch einen Sinn haben, der schon da
10992 root 1.1 war, bevor wir uns danach ausgerichtet haben - von all dem schreibt Ren aber
10993     nicht. ;)
10994    
10995 root 1.388 Worauf Ren wohl hinaus wollte, ist, daß wenn die Logik des begrenzten Raumes
10996     nicht gilt, daß dann die Logik schlechthin hinfällig wird und so jedes Sein
10997     fragwürdig wird. Das ist aber nicht der Fall, da die Logik, die er von den
10998 root 1.1 Grenzen des Raumes aufstellt, gar keine wirkliche Logik ist, sondern nur die
10999     Grenzen des menschlichen Verstandes zeigt. Er kann sich nicht vorstellen,
11000 root 1.388 daß außerhalb der Grenzen des Raumes "Nichts" ist, weil man sich als Mensch
11001 root 1.1 das Nichts nicht vorstellen kann.
11002    
11003 root 1.388 Darüber hinaus meinte er, daß die "Existenz unlogisch" würde. Dieser Satz
11004     ist vollkommen unverständlich. Denn entweder ist etwas, oder es ist nicht.
11005 root 1.1 Das ist auch schon die ganze Logik einer Existenz. (Aristoteles: Satz vom
11006 root 1.388 ausgeschlossenen Dritten) Unlogisch wäre, wenn etwas ist, das nicht ist oder
11007 root 1.1 wenn etwas nicht ist, das ist.
11008    
11009 root 1.388 Von der Unfähigkeit des Menschen, sich einen unbegrenzten aber endlichen
11010 root 1.1 Raum (oder wie auch immer der Weltraum nun aussieht) vorzustellen auf die
11011 root 1.388 "Unlogik der Existenz" zu schließen, ist aber wohl nicht ganz möglich, zumal
11012     eine Existenz nicht unlogisch sein kann. Was sollte das auch heißen? Daher
11013 root 1.1 ist das Problem, das Ren aufwirft, nur ein Scheinproblem. Die Existenz an
11014 root 1.388 sich wird nicht in Frage gestellt dadurch, daß man sich etwas - egal was -
11015 root 1.1 nicht vorstellen kann. Er verwechselt die Begriffe "unlogisch" und
11016     "unvorstellbar".
11017    
11018     Thomas.Decker@lrz.uni-muenchen.de
11019 root 1.387 %
11020 root 1.1 Marcel Richter wrote:
11021     > Marcel Richter - IQ: 3538327
11022     ^^^
11023     fehlt da nicht irgendwo ein Komma.... =?-)
11024 root 1.387 %
11025 root 1.1 The X server has to be the biggest program I've ever seen that doesn't
11026     do anything for you. --Ken Thompson
11027 root 1.387 %
11028 root 1.1 linux-2.1.92/fs/autofs/root.c:
11029     printk("autofs: trying to recover, but prepare for Armageddon\n");
11030 root 1.387 %
11031 root 1.1 >>Vincent DiPietro, the discoverer of the face on mars, has thrown in
11032     >>the towel, and said that the face on mars is a pile of rocks.
11033     >Was sollte es denn sonst sein?
11034    
11035     An artificial pile of rocks.
11036 root 1.387 %
11037 root 1.1 > ps: mal nebenbei: eine unbekannte variable beim analysieren des
11038     > marsgesichtes ist es, dass mensch gar nicht weiss, wie die lebende,
11039     > gedachte oder sonstige vorlage eigentlich aussieht. dazu kommt natuerlich
11040     > noch das fehlende wissen um die intention des "kuenstlers", ob er
11041     > beispielsweise nur aspekte bzw. partien eines gesichtes integrieren wollte
11042     > - und natuerlich, ob es ueberhaupt kunst ist:)
11043    
11044     Ganz genau. Und das Matterhorn ist eine palaeoimpressionistische Studie des
11045     Geruchsorgans der Rasse der Ciabattanimalier. Aber das wussten hier
11046     sicherlich schon alle. Das ganze Universum ist ausserdem eigentlich nur ein
11047     grosser Flipperautomat.
11048    
11049     Christoph Schulte Moenting - ubec@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
11050 root 1.387 %
11051 root 1.1 > Kris Weilemann schrieb
11052     >
11053     > >MIR ging es neulich aehnlich. Ich wurde von Ausserirdischen entfuehrt.
11054     > >Ich wurde eingesperrt in einem dunklem Raum mit langen Sitzreihen und mit
11055     > >einer Popcorn-artigen Substanz gefuettert. Nach 2 Stunden war alles
11056     > >vorbei. Einen Tag spaeter stellte ich fest, dass mir 18 Mark im
11057     > >Geldbeutel fehlten. Ist das nicht krass? -Kris.
11058 root 1.387 %
11059 root 1.388 ... Jazz ist nicht nur das erfolgreichste, sondern auch das einzige originäre Kunstgenre,
11060     daß die USA jemals hervorgebracht haben.
11061 root 1.1
11062     "Apropos Musik", HR2 am 16.4.98
11063 root 1.387 %
11064 root 1.1 http://www.rsw.com/
11065    
11066     The Unix shell as a 4GL
11067    
11068     Unix provides hundreds of programs that can be piped together to easily
11069     perform almost any function imaginable. Nothing comes close to providing the
11070     functions that come standard with Unix. Programs and philosophies carried
11071     over from other systems put walls between the user and Unix, and the power
11072     of Unix is thrown away. The shell, extended with a few relational operators,
11073     is the fourth generation database scripting language most appropriate to the
11074     Unix environment.
11075 root 1.387 %
11076 root 1.1 Perl is incredibly difficult to parse. For example, what's the difference
11077     between these:
11078    
11079     time /3 ;#/; print "hello";
11080     sin /3 ;#/; print "goodbye";
11081    
11082     Right. The first one is time divided by 3, and the print is in a comment.
11083     The second one is the sin of the result of a regular expression match for "3
11084     ;#", and the print gets executed!
11085    
11086     There's no pure BNF in the world that'll handle that. And remember, with
11087     "use" and prototypes available, whether you parse something like "sin" or
11088     "time" depends on its definition in some other file, somewhere in the galaxy
11089     (or even decided by Perl code in a BEGIN block, that evals a prototype!).
11090    
11091     Which led Larry to say at one point: "the only thing that can parse Perl is
11092     'perl'".
11093    
11094     --
11095     Randal L. Schwartz
11096 root 1.387 %
11097 root 1.1 Ronald J Kimball <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu> writes:
11098    
11099     > Pascal AMRAM wrote:
11100     > > Subject: MSEXCHANGE / OUTLOOK
11101     >
11102     > So here I am trying to figure out what an M sex change is....
11103    
11104     It's obviously the opposite of an F sex change. HTH.
11105    
11106     --
11107     Jonathan Feinberg jdf@pobox.com Sunny Brooklyn, NY
11108 root 1.387 %
11109 root 1.1 The management (my cats) made me say this.
11110 root 1.387 %
11111 root 1.1 uae-0.6.9/custom.c:800:
11112     write_log ("Program is torturing BPLCON1.\n");
11113 root 1.387 %
11114 root 1.1 uae-0.6.9/src/memory.c:363
11115     write_log ("Your Amiga program just did something terribly stupid\n");
11116 root 1.387 %
11117 root 1.1 Closures make sense in any programming language where you
11118     can have the return value of a function be itself a
11119     function, as you can in Perl. Note that some languages
11120     provide anonymous functions but are not capable of
11121     providing proper closures; the Python language, for
11122     example.
11123 root 1.387 %
11124 root 1.1 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to
11125     resemble a nail.
11126 root 1.387 %
11127 root 1.1 > but all I get are 501 errors, method not supported. I am not 100% sure what
11128     > I did wrong.
11129    
11130     What you did wrong was post a microsoft server question to a perl
11131     newsgroup.
11132 root 1.387 %
11133 root 1.1 I am trying to learn Perl on my Windows 97 system. In particular...
11134 root 1.387 %
11135 root 1.388 >Es kamen Außerirdische, die Pyramiden bauten und andere Wunder
11136     >vollbrachten. Dafür wurden sie vergöttert. Diese außerirdischen bauten dann
11137 root 1.1 >wahrscheinlich auch die Cydonia Region.
11138    
11139     Etwa zehnmal zu oft 'Stargate' gesehen, was?
11140 root 1.387 %
11141 root 1.388 >Die Menschheit kämpft seit Millionen von Jahren gegeneinander.
11142 root 1.1
11143 root 1.388 Welche Hälfte ist denn da die grössere? :o)
11144 root 1.387 %
11145 root 1.1 ...am still rebuilding after being hit with a clock changing virus it reset
11146     my clock to 2039 unfortunately for me my OS is beta 98 needless to say it
11147     expired instantly!!!
11148 root 1.387 %
11149 root 1.1 From: Per Bothner <bothner@cygnus.com>
11150     To: Pal Engstad <engstad@hunt.inmet.com>
11151    
11152     > Linus Torvalds requires that all code in the source is using a tab
11153     > length of 8 spaces, and he also states that you are a bad programmer
11154     > if you write code with more than 3 indentation levels.
11155    
11156     I didn't know that Linus Torvalds has done research on programming styles.
11157     He much have, since why else would you have the audacity quote him as
11158     an authority, on a list where there are dozens of people with more
11159     than double Linus's programming experience?
11160    
11161     > This has caused the code to be fairly easy to read and maintainance is
11162     > pretty straight forward.
11163    
11164     Irrelevant - a kernel is a lot simpler than an optimizing compiler,
11165     in terms of complexity of algorithms and data structures.
11166 root 1.387 %
11167 root 1.1 Nach der Diskussion muss ich akzeptieren, dass die juengst erfolgte
11168     Erdbeschleunigung von - 0,6 auf - 0,4 Millisekunden kein zwingender Beweis
11169     fuer einen Permanentantrieb ist. Aber: In letzter Zeit kommt es bei mir immer
11170     wieder vor, dass ich Dinge einfach weiss. Selbst wenn ich sie nicht begruenden
11171     kann. Ich weiss trotzdem dass sie stimmen muessen und der Antrieb existiert.
11172     Mit der Zeit findet sich dann auch die Begruendung.
11173 root 1.387 %
11174 root 1.1 Wir suchen neue AussenMitarbeiterInnen... (S.Pernar@Link-Goe)
11175 root 1.387 %
11176 root 1.1 hyperltext (hy'perl-text), n. double-quotish-interpolated hypertext markup:
11177     Example:
11178     print qq[[<LI><A HREF="$self->[[url]]">@[[[ucfirst $self->[[title]]]]]</A>\n]];
11179 root 1.387 %
11180 root 1.1 liperlsuction: What happens to any script longer than 10 lines once
11181     Randal gets his hands on it
11182 root 1.387 %
11183 root 1.1 Uperl Volta - country where perl programmers control the electricity.
11184 root 1.387 %
11185 root 1.1 > Anybody successfully installed the win32 version of Perl?
11186    
11187     No! Millions of people don't use perl on win32 machines. You may be the
11188     first if you get it working.
11189 root 1.387 %
11190 root 1.1 > Macintosh.
11191     > Think different.
11192    
11193     Think Again.
11194 root 1.387 %
11195 root 1.1 Bill.Cilnton@dyselxia.com
11196 root 1.387 %
11197 root 1.1 tsatan@hotmail.com writes:
11198     > Why does perl have the "push" and "unshift" functions? ...
11199     > push @nums, 4; is the same as @nums = (@nums, 4);
11200    
11201     What do you want, Scheme? ;)
11202 root 1.387 %
11203 root 1.1 # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'.
11204     # It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
11205 root 1.387 %
11206 root 1.1 | I am returning this otherwise good typing paper to you because
11207     | someone has printed gibberish all over it and put your name at the
11208     | top.
11209 root 1.387 %
11210 root 1.1 I had a student ask about the UN9 operating system. I didn't understabd what
11211     he was talking about so he wrote UNIX on the board.
11212 root 1.387 %
11213 root 1.1 On 1 Apr 98 17:34:23 GMT, Schulung7 wrote:
11214     ^^^^^^^^^
11215     >Was haltet ihr vom UFO-Absturz in Rosswell?
11216    
11217     Nichts. Und jetzt geh woanders spielen.
11218 root 1.387 %
11219 root 1.1 >Kann man hier irgendwie mal die UFOs reinbringen, um die es in dieser NG
11220     >gehen soll?
11221    
11222 root 1.388 Nein, der Datentyp wäre inkompatibel. UFOs sind per Definitionem
11223 root 1.1 materielle Objekte (obwohl das zur Zeit fraglich ist ;-), die sich in
11224     diesem Medium nicht austauschen lassen.
11225 root 1.387 %
11226 root 1.1 Wer redet hier denn von der "Hui Hui"? Ich sprach von "Hui! Hui!".
11227 root 1.387 %
11228 root 1.388 >> nein...ist kein Sender. Eine taiwanesische Sekte hat behauptet, daß am
11229     >> 25.3. auf allen TVs der Welt Gott auf Kanal 18 erscheinen würde.
11230 root 1.1 >> Ist natuerlich nicht eingetreten.
11231     >
11232     >Aber unsere Haus-Sat-Anlage geht seither nicht mehr.
11233    
11234     Ein Zeichen! Er hat uns ein Zeichen gegeben! Zieht alle euren linken
11235     Schuh aus!
11236 root 1.387 %
11237 root 1.1 >Klingt nach Erdstillstand.
11238    
11239 root 1.388 Ich bin entsetzt. Man hat hoffentlich sofort Wiederbedrehungsmaßnahmen
11240 root 1.1 eingeleitet?
11241 root 1.387 %
11242 root 1.1 Mars Global Surveyor Imaging Schedule
11243    
11244    
11245     First opportunity
11246     Approximate
11247     Orbit Internet
11248     Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11249    
11250     4-3-98 09:58/1:58 a.m. 216 Viking Lander 1 April 6
11251     4-3-98 21:37/1:37 p.m. 217 Viking Lander 2 April 7
11252     4-4-98 09:16/1:16 a.m. 218 Mars Pathfinder April 7
11253     4-5-98 08:33/12:33 a.m. 220 Cydonia April 6 (mid-a.m.)
11254    
11255     Second opportunity
11256     Approximate
11257     Orbit Internet
11258     Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11259    
11260     4-12-98 15:23/ 8:23 a.m. 235 Viking Lander 1 April 14
11261     4-13-98 03:01/ 8:01 p.m. 236 Viking Lander 2 April 15
11262     4-13-98 14:40/ 7:40 a.m. 237 Mars Pathfinder April 15
11263     4-14-98 13:57/ 6:57 a.m. 239 Cydonia April 14 (mid-p.m.)
11264    
11265     Third opportunity
11266     Approximate
11267     Orbit Internet
11268     Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11269    
11270     4-21-98 20:45/1:45 p.m. 254 Viking Lander 1 April 23
11271     4-22-98 08:23/1:23 a.m. 255 Viking Lander 2 April 24
11272     4-22-98 20:02/1:02 p.m. 256 Mars Pathfinder April 24
11273     4-23-98 19:18/12:18 p.m. 258 Cydonia April 24 (mid-a.m.)
11274    
11275 root 1.387 %
11276 root 1.1 > >2. Der Menschheit ist durch Inzucht entstanden. Laut biologischem
11277 root 1.388 > >Wissen, unwahrscheinlich, da Mutation und Mißbildungen auftreten
11278     > >würden.
11279 root 1.1 >
11280     > Vermutung: Das ist auch aufgetreten. Siehe levitische "Gesetze" zur
11281     > "Behandlung" von "Aussatz" insb. im 3. "Mose". Die hatten schon Probleme.
11282     Sag mal, bei Dir piepts wohl nicht mehr richtig! Aussatz, heute besser
11283     unter dem Namen Lepra bekannt, ist keine Erbkrankheit. Es ist eine
11284     (heute heilbare) Infektionskrankheit, verursacht durch Bakterien.
11285     Also nichts von Inzucht, wie Du das in Deinem latenten Rassenwahn
11286     implizierst.
11287 root 1.387 %
11288 root 1.1 > You might please start up with reading more than one sentence - a skill
11289     > quite familiar in Europe, but as it seems not in the USA.
11290 root 1.387 %
11291 root 1.1 Yup. Instead of crashing Xservers, now you have crashing kernels.
11292     Big improvement.
11293 root 1.387 %
11294 root 1.1 -- "Hey look, this new card is for windows and only $xx!"
11295     -- "Yes, but it's braindead and will hurt your performance. Take that one
11296     over there. Besides, it's not an ope.."
11297     -- "Why that one?"
11298     -- "Because it's better, sinc.."
11299     -- "But I can do the same with this one, it's cheaper, and its for windows!"
11300 root 1.387 %
11301 root 1.1 In der Klinik, in der ich mal arbeiten musste, hatten wir einen echten
11302     Koenig Ludwig II und mindestens fuenf Stueck Jesus - sowas gibts halt,
11303     wenn Du verstehst, was ich meine.
11304 root 1.387 %
11305 root 1.1 > Hast Du mal einen Stein beobachtet, der eine Unzahl komplexer
11306     > Vorgaenge paresentiert, einschliesslich der Hervorbringung
11307     > etlicher Lebensformen?
11308    
11309     Jepp. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "zahlreich".
11310    
11311     > Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der sich mal eben
11312     > "verwandelt", und auf dem dann lauter Wesen rumkrabbeln,
11313     > die aus ihm selbst entsprungen sind?
11314    
11315     Klar doch. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "lauter".
11316    
11317     > Ueberspitzt: Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der
11318     > ploetzlich zum Lebewesen wird und Dich fragt, wer oder was
11319     > er eigentlich ist?
11320    
11321 root 1.388 Tja, da hören die Übereinstimmungen auf. Ich dachte Du meinst
11322 root 1.1 Erwin Stein. Den kenne ich. Der hat zwei Kinder. Die krabbeln
11323 root 1.388 ab und zu auf ihm herum. Der ist aber nicht plötzlich zum Le-
11324 root 1.1 bewesen geworden, sondern den gibt es nun schon ein wenig
11325 root 1.388 länger. Und er hat mich auch noch nie gefragt, wer oder was
11326 root 1.1 er eigentlich ist. Zumindest nicht in einem Zustand, den man
11327 root 1.388 als "normal" bezeichnen könnte. So wird das anscheinend nix.
11328 root 1.1 Ciao
11329     Stefan
11330 root 1.387 %
11331 root 1.1 "These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After
11332     unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including
11333     all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer."
11334     (http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/pc99.htm)
11335 root 1.387 %
11336 root 1.1 Video cards have write-only registers. (of course that is bad design) Let's
11337     say that register 13 is write-only, as is common. It holds an index that
11338     determines what register 69 (also write-only) actually changes. If you write
11339     to register 13 while the accelerator is active, you lock the PCI bus. You
11340     can't determine if the accelerator is active without reading from register
11341     42, but you can't interpret the contents of that register correctly without
11342     knowing what the last accelerator command was. Reading from register 13 gets
11343     you some useless (unrelated) info and _also_ toggles the accelerator on and
11344     off.
11345 root 1.387 %
11346 root 1.1 Join the Army,
11347     Meet interesting people,
11348     Kill them.
11349 root 1.387 %
11350 root 1.1 > Wie entsteht Materie? Ich koennte mir vorstellen, dass Energie in Materie
11351     > umwandelbar ist.
11352    
11353     E=m*c^2 (Schon mal gehoert?) (Schon mal verstanden??)
11354 root 1.387 %
11355 root 1.388 >nach der die Pygmäen geheime UFO-Basen in ausgehöhlten Baumstämmen
11356 root 1.1 >unterhalten (Vorsicht: das war ein Witz :-) ).
11357 root 1.387 %
11358 root 1.1 > (Bernhard Nahrgang) wrote:
11359     >
11360     > >> Logische Annahme: Die Erde waechst entweder kontinuierlich, oder periodisch
11361     > >> ruckartig.
11362     > >wie kann jemand mit dem IQ von 130 nur SO SELTEN BLOEDE sein??
11363     >
11364 root 1.388 > Norbert ist nicht selten blöde...
11365 root 1.1
11366     :-)
11367 root 1.387 %
11368 root 1.1 SAT 1 Teletext: Ein Asteroid mit einem Durchmesser von fast einem Kilometer
11369 root 1.388 rast mit großer Geschwindigkeit auf die Erde zu. US-Astronomen befürchten:
11370     "XF11" könnte im Jahr 2028 auf der Erde einschlagen. Die Folgen wären
11371 root 1.1 verheerend. "Der rasende Stein aus dem All ist eine Gefahr", warnt Jack G.
11372     Hills vom US-Kernforschungszentrum Los Alamos: "Wenn er die Erde trifft,
11373     wird er die Sprengkraft von 320.000 Megatonnen Dynamit haben." Das
11374     entspricht dem Zweimillionenfachen der Atombombe...
11375    
11376     ARD/ZDF Teletext: ASTEROID MIT KURS AUF ERDE ENTDECKT Amerikanische
11377     Astronomen haben einen Asteroiden ausgemacht, der in 30 Jahren der Erde
11378 root 1.388 gefährlich nahekommen wird. Die Gefahr, daß der Asteroid einschlagen wird,
11379     sei gering, aber auch nicht völlig auszuschließen. Nach derzeitigen
11380 root 1.1 Berechnungen wird der Asteroid mit der Bezeichnung "1997 XF11" am 26.Oktober
11381 root 1.388 2028 unserem Planeten am nächsten kommen. "1997 XF11" hat etwa einen
11382     Durchmesser von 1,6 Kilometern. Erstmals käme ein Objekt dieser Größe der
11383     Erde so nahe, hieß es in dem Bericht der Internationalen Astronomischen
11384 root 1.1 Union.
11385    
11386 root 1.388 RTL Teletext: Himmelskörper rast auf Erde zu Ein Asteroid wird im Jahr 2028
11387     der Erde gefährlich nahe kommen. Amerikanische Wissenschaftler haben die
11388 root 1.1 Chance eines Zusammenpralls auf eins zu tausend berechnet. Sollte der
11389 root 1.388 Asteroid, der einen Durchmesser von 1,8 Kilometern hat, aufprallen, könnte
11390     er eine gigantische Flutwelle auslösen, so die Forscher. Auch ein genaues
11391     Datum haben die Wissenschaftler schon errechnet: Von Europa aus wäre das
11392 root 1.1 Naturschauspiel am 26. Oktober 2028 zu beobachten.
11393 root 1.387 %
11394 root 1.1 * Linux Viruscan.....
11395     Windows 95 Found Remove it ? (Y/y)
11396 root 1.387 %
11397 root 1.1 >>Hmm, welche Behauptungen entsprechen denn deiner Meinung nach der
11398 root 1.388 >>Realität?
11399 root 1.1 >>
11400     >>Das es das FBI wirklich gibt?
11401 root 1.388 >>Das Scully frigide ist, und deshalb mit Mulder nichts anfangen möchte?
11402     >>Das Mulder homosexuell ist, und deshalb mit Scully nichts anfangen möchte?
11403 root 1.1 >>Das der CSM einen Vertrag mit Marlb*ro hat?
11404     >
11405     >Hinter diesen "Fragen" erkenne ich z.B. eine gut bekannte Strategie. Die
11406     >FBI-Frage ist bewusst absurd. Das Abgleiten ins Sexuelle hat ebenfalls
11407 root 1.387 %
11408 root 1.1 "'You're a Cirrus. You're crap. I'm an S3. I rule. Thank you and please drive through.'"
11409 root 1.387 %
11410 root 1.1 > How could you have perl take a set of numbers (1,2,3,4) and put them
11411     > into a random order???
11412     >
11413    
11414     @array=qw(1 2 3 4);
11415     print "@array[1,3,2,0]\n";
11416    
11417     I've checked this against other possible random orderings
11418     of these numbers, and this ordering is at least as random as
11419     any of the other possible ones. The benefit of this one being
11420     that it begins with the number 2, which is my favorite random
11421     number less than 42.
11422 root 1.387 %
11423 root 1.1 From what I am reading Win98 and NT5.0 will be getting rid of all that
11424     crap anyway. Seems that Microsoft has invented something called TCP/IP and
11425     another really revolutionary concept called DNS that eliminates the
11426     netbios crap too. All that arping from browsers is going to go away.
11427     I also hear rumors that they are on the verge of breakthrough discoveries
11428     called NFS, and LPD too. Given enough time and money, they might
11429     eventually invent Unix.
11430 root 1.387 %
11431 root 1.1 In Germany, where typeface design has always been a significant part of
11432     the cultural heritage, and where typefounding has remained an important
11433     business, there are more than one kind of copyright-like protections for
11434     typefaces. Certain long-standing industrial design protection laws have
11435     been used to protect typeface designs in litigation over royalties and
11436     plagiarisms. Further, there is a recent law, the so-called
11437     "Schriftzeichengesetz" enacted in 1981, that specifically protects
11438     typeface designs. New designs are registered, as is done with
11439     copyright in most countries. This law only protects new, original
11440     designs. It is available to non-German designers and firms. Therefore,
11441     some type firms and designers routinely copyright new designs in West
11442     Germany. This gives a degree of protection for products marketed in
11443     Germany. Since multinational corporations may find it cheaper to
11444     license a design for world-wide use rather than deal with a special case
11445     in one country, the German law does encourage licensing on a broader
11446     scale than would initially seem to be the case.
11447 root 1.387 %
11448 root 1.1 [linux processes vs. nt/solaris threads]
11449     Rob Pike pointed out that the solution to slow process creation is
11450     faster process creation, not another kernel abstraction.
11451 root 1.387 %
11452 root 1.1 Does anybody know how to communicate between a PC and a modem,
11453     using a Perl CGI script?
11454 root 1.387 %
11455 root 1.1 >I really don't know crap about PERL. How is it different from JAVA?
11456    
11457     One tiny difference: Java can crash your browser. It happened to me last
11458     week.
11459 root 1.387 %
11460 root 1.1 Brieweb> I heard Randal Schwartz say he could write an entire httpd server in 90 lines
11461     Brieweb> of PERL.
11462     No, that's an http *proxy* server. A simple web server is much shorter.
11463     From "perldoc HTTP::Daemon"...
11464     [Randal Schwartz]
11465 root 1.387 %
11466 root 1.1 But the possibility of abuse may be a good reason for leaving
11467     capabilities out of other computer languages, it's not a good reason
11468     for leaving capabilities out of Perl.
11469     [Larry Wall in `Macros'. [[perl5-porters]]]
11470 root 1.387 %
11471 root 1.1 Yes: Java's main advantage over Perl is that it's hard to use for casual
11472     programmers, so keeps all but the most intrepid programmers away from it.
11473     It has no decent support for string processing, allowing you to spend
11474     hours at useless debugging. It has a very restrictive and static system
11475     to make sure you don't try anything interesting. It makes sure that you
11476     use objects, by golly, because James Gosling said so. It's easy for C++
11477     programmers to use, and hard for shell or BASIC programmers to use. It
11478     also only runs on a few systems, locking its customers into a a closed
11479     system and restricting their options.
11480     [Tom Christiansen in `Java Vs. Perl']
11481 root 1.387 %
11482 root 1.1 <Bill_Gates> Where do you want to go today?
11483     <Phase_5> Where do go tomorrow?
11484     <BlueFlux> Where were you yesterday?!?!
11485 root 1.387 %
11486 root 1.1 "It's not to control, but to protect the citizens of Singapore. In our
11487     society, you can state your views, but they have to be correct."
11488     Ernie Hai
11489     Coordinator of Singapore Government Internet Project
11490 root 1.387 %
11491 root 1.1 : I very much prefer a useful error message than a "it produced the wrong
11492     : results" report from the users.
11493    
11494     if i got even "it produced the wrong results" from our users, i would
11495     be in 7th heaven. ours often mail us with such insightful requests as
11496     "can you tell me my email address?" no, sorry, that should be "CAN U
11497     TEL ME MY E MAIL ADRES DUDE?!!!?? HURRY!!!"
11498 root 1.387 %
11499 root 1.1 There are many intelligent species in the Universe.
11500     They are all owned by cats.
11501 root 1.387 %
11502 root 1.1 Why dignify your unsustainable, unjustifiable, unprovable feeble
11503     attempts at character assassination with anything resembling a reply?
11504     You only make yourself look foolish by mouthing off like that.
11505 root 1.387 %
11506 root 1.1 From: L & K Olson <kolson@mbnet.mb.ca>
11507     Subject: If they wrote error messages in haiku ...
11508    
11509     Yesterday it worked
11510     Today it is not working
11511     Windows is like that
11512     - - -
11513     wind catches lily
11514     scatt'ring petals to the wind:
11515     segmentation fault
11516     - - -
11517     Three things are certain:
11518     Death, taxes, and lost data.
11519     Guess which has occurred.
11520     - - -
11521     A file that big?
11522     It might be very useful.
11523     But now it is gone.
11524     - - -
11525     Windows NT crashed.
11526     I am the Blue Screen of Death.
11527     No one hears your screams.
11528     - - -
11529     Errors have occurred.
11530     We won't tell you where or why.
11531     Lazy programmers.
11532     - - -
11533     Seeing my great fault
11534     Through darkening blue windows
11535     I begin again
11536     - - -
11537     The code was willing,
11538     It considered your request,
11539     But the chips were weak.
11540     - - -
11541     Printer not ready.
11542     Could be a fatal error.
11543     Have a pen handy?
11544     - - -
11545     Server's poor response
11546     Not quick enough for browser.
11547     Timed out, plum blossom.
11548     - - -
11549     Chaos reigns within.
11550     Reflect, repent, and reboot.
11551     Order shall return.
11552     - - -
11553     Login incorrect.
11554     Only perfect spellers may
11555     enter this system.
11556     - - -
11557     This site has been moved.
11558     We'd tell you where, but then we'd
11559     have to delete you.
11560     - - -
11561     ABORTED effort:
11562     Close all that you have.
11563     You ask way too much.
11564     - - -
11565     First snow, then silence.
11566     This thousand dollar screen dies
11567     so beautifully.
11568     - - -
11569     With searching comes loss
11570     and the presence of absence:
11571     "My Novel" not found.
11572     - - -
11573     The Tao that is seen
11574     Is not the true Tao, until
11575     You bring fresh toner.
11576     - - -
11577     The Web site you seek
11578     cannot be located but
11579     endless others exist
11580     - - -
11581     Stay the patient course
11582     Of little worth is your ire
11583     The network is down
11584     - - -
11585     A crash reduces
11586     your expensive computer
11587     to a simple stone.
11588     - - -
11589     There is a chasm
11590     of carbon and silicon
11591     the software can't bridge
11592     - - -
11593     To have no errors
11594     Would be life without meaning
11595     No struggle, no joy
11596     - - -
11597     You step in the stream,
11598     but the water has moved on.
11599     This page is not here.
11600     - - -
11601     No keyboard present
11602     Hit F1 to continue
11603     Zen engineering?
11604     - - -
11605     Hal, open the file
11606     Hal, open the damn file, Hal
11607     open it, please Hal
11608     - - -
11609     Out of memory.
11610     We wish to hold the whole sky,
11611     But we never will.
11612     - - -
11613     Having been erased,
11614     The document you're seeking
11615     Must now be retyped.
11616     - - -
11617     The ten thousand things
11618     How long do any persist?
11619     Netscape, too, has gone.
11620     - - -
11621     Rather than a beep
11622     Or a rude error message,
11623     These words: "File not found."
11624     - - -
11625     Serious error.
11626     All shortcuts have disappeared
11627     Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
11628 root 1.387 %
11629 root 1.1 "The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way
11630     to factor large prime numbers." -- Bill Gates from "The Road Ahead," p. 265.
11631 root 1.387 %
11632 root 1.1 > What is the Windows equivalent of the first line used for
11633     > UNIX (#!/usr/local/bin/perl) that tells where the Perl interpreter is?
11634    
11635     Windows hasn't gotten quite as far in functionality as, say, BSD Unix in the
11636     early 1980s.
11637 root 1.387 %
11638 root 1.1 > I have a chat script, that will work fine for a bit then after a while
11639     > the private messages will stop working. It might be because I changed
11640     > something, but chances are that isn't the case. I re-install a fresh
11641     > copy, paths are correct, and they still don't work
11642    
11643     I think you are experiencing GOVERNMENT CONTROL. You see, everyone
11644     with a chat script is being scrutinised by the department of CHAT
11645     control. Whenever they see some message they don't like, they
11646     introduce some little goblin called feature-creep in your program. if
11647     you have lots of these little devils, your program migth acquire so
11648     many new features that it just stops working.
11649    
11650     This also applies to Microsoft products.
11651    
11652     > Does it make sense for certain features to just not work?! If you can
11653     > help, or have suggestions, get back to me, PLEASE:)
11654    
11655     Yes, it makes perfect sense. Especially if they're features which
11656     really are bugs. And especially if they're 'private' messages. You
11657     know perfectly well that the government doesn't like private messages.
11658    
11659     Hope this explains what's going on
11660     Martien Verbruggen
11661 root 1.387 %
11662 root 1.1 ...code? If you're on a misconfigured NT server (is that redundant?), you...
11663 root 1.387 %
11664 root 1.1 X11R6.1-based free X server compiles, links and crashes under IRIX(TM).
11665 root 1.387 %
11666 root 1.1 -------------- please bite here ------------- bitte hier abbeissen ---------
11667 root 1.387 %
11668 root 1.1 "Frag mal, auf was fuer uptimes man kommt, wenn man Software-Entwicklung
11669     unter NT macht..." "Das koennen bis zu dreissig Minuten werden - in der
11670     Mittagspause." -- Andreas Bogk, Kai Fett, de.alt.sysadmin.recovery
11671 root 1.387 %
11672 root 1.1 > ++ A lot of posters here have .sigs that include perl one liners.
11673     > ++ Is there a safe way to run them, and be assured that they wont
11674     > ++ damage and/or erase files? (or e-mail off my shadow file)
11675     >
11676     > Just make sure you understand it ;)
11677    
11678     I nominate Abigail for best response of the year with this one. Come to
11679     think of it, I nominate it for best response of next year, too.
11680 root 1.387 %
11681 root 1.1 Your moderator will be spending the next week on a beach on a small island
11682     where the phones don't work very well, so there won't be any comp.compilers
11683     until the 28th. Any messages you send in will wait here until I get back and
11684     should be posted on March 1st or 2nd.
11685 root 1.387 %
11686 root 1.1 But now, in comp.lang.perl.misc, you have a bunch of people who aren't
11687     even asking how to make the pieces fit together, but what the
11688     individual pieces are. ("How do I get my lego project to roll accross
11689     the table?" "You use one of those pieces that have the wheels
11690     attached.") Or questions that aren't about building at all. ("The
11691     motor stopped moving. How do I get it to start again?" "The batteries
11692     are probably dead. You can buy new batteries at any department or
11693     convienience store.")
11694 root 1.387 %
11695 root 1.1 : how do i make my perl script run?
11696     Get up at 91 minutes before dawn, clothe yourself in neon green body
11697 root 1.387 %
11698 root 1.1 for some reason Windoze users don't seem to expect docs to come with an archive
11699 root 1.424 >>> ToiLeTGoD
11700 root 1.1
11701     Well, well.. I always wondered who/what made that flush thingy work.
11702     Pretty cool name, dude. (not)
11703 root 1.387 %
11704 root 1.1 Ummm...create "comp.lang.perl.wizards", make it moderated and all posts,
11705     including xposts, go into /dev/null. Most FAQers won't have the Usenet
11706     background to understand that such groups are either a) a wasteland
11707     populated (briefly) by persons like themselves, or b) point to /dev/null.
11708 root 1.387 %
11709 root 1.1 Lazy people never bother to actually read the manual. Instead they (like
11710     kids) pick something with big, colorful buttons.
11711     -- Eugene Tyurin <gene@insti.physics.sunysb.edu>
11712 root 1.387 %
11713 root 1.1 The Average Person's Axioms of First Order Predicate Logic:
11714     (A => B) => (B => A)
11715     (There exists) x A(x) => (For all) x A(x)
11716     (A => C) & (B => C) => (A => B) - Warren Vonroeschlaub
11717 root 1.387 %
11718 root 1.1 cal 9 1752
11719 root 1.387 %
11720 root 1.1 Installing unix fixes the [VMS] bug.
11721     -Barry Shein
11722 root 1.387 %
11723 root 1.1 And this horrible free-for-all will be left to children wondering around
11724     by themselves in the dark because they refuse to turn on the light and
11725     read the manual.
11726 root 1.387 %
11727 root 1.1 "SPARC" is "CRAPS" backwards --Rob Pike
11728 root 1.387 %
11729 root 1.1 I increasingly begin to understand why some universities require
11730     that its compsci majors study the Euclid's Prime Number Theorem,
11731     the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, Cantor's Diagonalization Proof,
11732     Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem, and the ramifications of Halting Problem
11733     in everyday life. These may not be involved in daily programming, but
11734     it helps develop a rigorous mind. And it gives those who would progress
11735     from typist to word-processor devotee to HTML documenter to CGI scripter
11736     to distributed multithreaded operating systems design specialist cause
11737     for pause. You just can't do that without proper training.
11738 root 1.387 %
11739 root 1.1 comp.lang.perl.i'm-from-microsoft-so-won't-read-documentation
11740 root 1.387 %
11741 root 1.1 I suggest you install a newsserver, and keep a local spool. Anything else
11742     is too much work, and fairly silly. The Internet has catupulted even
11743     the Wintel victims past the days of BBS toys.
11744 root 1.387 %
11745 root 1.1 > Help help! Pls advise me thru email.
11746    
11747     I advise you to buy a new keyboard; one that has all the keys you
11748     need.
11749 root 1.387 %
11750 root 1.1 Christian Fundamentalism: The doctrine that there is an absolutely
11751     powerful, infinitely knowledgeable, universe spanning entity that is
11752     deeply and personally concerned about my sex life.
11753 root 1.387 %
11754 root 1.1 I find the first particularly useful in destroying the miswrapped
11755     lines stemming from brain-damaged "it's just another word processor"
11756     newsreaders. You know,
11757     those postings that always seem to go to the edge of the line and then
11758     back
11759     again to the start, as this paragraph has. These are just too painful
11760     to read. Just kill them. It's not worth your time trying to figure
11761     out what they're saying.
11762 root 1.387 %
11763 root 1.1 It is most annoying to receive junk mail describing how to purchase 93
11764     million addresses, while knowing that yours is one of them.
11765 root 1.387 %
11766 root 1.1 I'm surprised Tom, how could it miss the "X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT;
11767     U)" header line? Personally, I find the attempted use of Netscape as a
11768     newsreader even worse then the attempted use of WinNT as an OS. :-)
11769    
11770     But the combination.... *sutters*
11771 root 1.387 %
11772 root 1.1 Hm... my new killfile isn't detecting you're posting from Windows.
11773     Darn it.
11774 root 1.387 %
11775 root 1.1 At least he didn't post in all caps.
11776 root 1.387 %
11777 root 1.1 http://language.perl.com/CPAN-local/doc/FAQs/cgi/idiots-guide.html
11778 root 1.387 %
11779 root 1.1 I think the biggest problem with M.S.A. is that the scripts work for Matt, but
11780     the majority of people trying to use them are from the
11781     "Wintel/AOL/FrontPage/push-a-button/HTML-is-programming/no-programming-required"
11782     school of non-learning. It isn't a problem with the code, per se, but with those
11783     trying to use it.
11784 root 1.387 %
11785 root 1.1 "Linux can emulate an C64 on my AMDK6PR200 at full speed. Windows can't."
11786 root 1.387 %
11787 root 1.1 cdog wrote:
11788     >
11789     > Is this group active?
11790     No.
11791    
11792     If you had spent half a second LOOKING at the group before posting, you
11793     probably could have come to that conclusion yourself.
11794    
11795     On a personal note, I died 3 years, 8 days, 5 minutes, 16 seconds, and
11796     345 milliseconds ago, but who's counting.
11797 root 1.387 %
11798 root 1.1 "Security through obscurity is no security at all."
11799     -comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup posting
11800 root 1.387 %
11801 root 1.1 "Windows 95 will now attempt to blow chunks across your primary partition.
11802     Press any key to continue..."
11803 root 1.387 %
11804 root 1.1 NT 5.0 is the last nail in the Unix coffin. Interestingly, Unix
11805     isn't in the coffin... It's wondering what the heck is sealing
11806     itself into a wooden box 6 feet underground...
11807 root 1.387 %
11808 root 1.1 The Wall St Journal (1996-01-22, page 1) reported that Cuba is
11809     considering jumping across the International Date Line, just so that
11810     it's the first into the year 2000. So it's possible you'll have to
11811     adjust your travel plans.
11812 root 1.387 %
11813 root 1.388 "Wo kämen wir hin, wenn alle sagten, wo kämen wir hin, und niemand ginge
11814     hin, um einmal zu schauen, wohin man käme, wenn man ginge." -- Kurt Marti
11815 root 1.387 %
11816 root 1.1 The Takeuchi function is a popular benchmark of function calling due to its
11817     highly recursive nature. It's defined as:
11818    
11819     tak x y z = z, if y >= x
11820     = tak (tak (x-1) y z) (tak (y - 1) z x) (tak (z - 1) x y), otherwise
11821    
11822     For this benchmark, the function is invoked as:
11823    
11824     tak 18 12 6
11825 root 1.387 %
11826 root 1.1 "Nobody will ever need more than 640k RAM!"
11827     -- Bill Gates
11828     "Windows 95 needs at least 8 MB RAM."
11829     -- Bill Gates
11830     "Nobody will ever need Windows 95."
11831     -- logical conclusion
11832 root 1.387 %
11833 root 1.1 Year Name James Bond Book
11834     - ---- -------------------------------- -------------- ----
11835     50's James Bond TV Series Barry Nelson
11836     1962 Dr. No Sean Connery 1958
11837     1963 From Russia With Love Sean Connery 1957
11838     1964 Goldfinger Sean Connery 1959
11839     1965 Thunderball Sean Connery 1961
11840     1967* Casino Royale David Niven 1954
11841     1967 You Only Live Twice Sean Connery 1964
11842     1969 On Her Majesty's Secret Service George Lazenby 1963
11843     1971 Diamonds Are Forever Sean Connery 1956
11844     1973 Live And Let Die Roger Moore 1955
11845     1974 The Man With The Golden Gun Roger Moore 1965
11846     1977 The Spy Who Loved Me Roger Moore 1962 (novelette)
11847     1979 Moonraker Roger Moore 1955
11848     1981 For Your Eyes Only Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
11849     1983 Octopussy Roger Moore 1965
11850     1983* Never Say Never Again Sean Connery
11851     1985 A View To A Kill Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
11852     1987 The Living Daylights Timothy Dalton 1965 (novelette)
11853     * -- Not a Broccoli production.
11854 root 1.387 %
11855 root 1.1 Windows NT: n.
11856     32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit
11857     operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written
11858     by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
11859 root 1.387 %
11860 root 1.388 Auf der Kiste läuft EHNIX, das ist ZUNIX kompatibel.