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1 root 1.478 "How We Test Power Supply Units"
2    
3     In case a PSU explodes [...], we note this in the review and subtract the
4     corresponding performance points from its overall performance score.
5    
6     [https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/how-we-test-psu,4042-12.html]
7     %
8 root 1.477 22:15:54 <Mikachu> the whole thing didn't strictly crash, but the game used --in-process-gpu and the gpu
9     process called exit when it couldn't init the gpu
10     22:16:01 <Mikachu> without that the game ran in software at 1fps just fine
11     %
12     Whatever feature of the STE you want to use, it will either not work as
13     planned or require special treatment. If it works as planned and does not
14     require special treatment, it will definetly not work on the TT or the
15     Falcon.
16    
17     [http://www.atari-wiki.com/index.php/Atari_STE_FAQ_compiled_by_The_Paranoid_/_Paradox]
18     %
19 root 1.476 In 1729, how could they know where the north pole was when it was only
20     discovered in 1909?
21     -- Ebon Kim, Flat-Earth Youtuber
22     %
23 root 1.475 Fun with the north korean Red Star OS:
24    
25     It does have some components that prevent the normal user from
26     editing/deleting various protected files (securityd, scnprc and opprc). We
27     call it “oppression” if we’re speaking of DPRK and “defending your
28     privacy and security” if we’re speaking of Apple. Two sides of the
29     same coin, I guess, depends on which side you’re on.
30    
31     [https://sizeof.cat/post/fun-with-redstar-os/]
32     %
33 root 1.474 Minister for Law and Home Affairs K Shanmugam clarified in Parliament
34     during the Committee of Supply debate on Mar. 3 that inmates in Singapore
35     do not need to thank prison staff after being caned.
36    
37     [https://mothership.sg/2022/03/no-requirement-thank-guard-after-caning/]
38     %
39     The IETF, obviously fearing irrelevance, hastily "discovered" that the
40     HTTP/1.1 protocol needed an update, and tasked a working group with
41     preparing it on an unrealistically short schedule. This ruled out any
42     basis for the new HTTP/2.0 other than the SPDY protocol. With only
43     the most hideous of SPDY's warts removed, and all other attempts at
44     improvement rejected as "not in scope," "too late," or "no consensus," the
45     IETF can now claim relevance and victory by conceding practically every
46     principle ever held dear in return for the privilege of rubber-stamping
47     Google's initiative.
48    
49     Poul-Henning Kamp, in https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=27162
50     %
51     [HGST engineer, taking about drive reliability]
52    
53     we don't want to test it, because that costs time, we just wait for the
54     market feedback and put that into our calculations.
55     %
56 root 1.473 [wdleng.c in unix V6 iolib]
57    
58     wdleng ()
59     /* returns number of bits in a machine integer */
60     /* written so kernighan can tell where he is running */
61     {
62     int k, leng;
63     k = leng = 1;
64     while (k =<< 1)
65 root 1.476 leng++;
66 root 1.473 return (leng);
67     }
68     %
69 root 1.470 Dana Angluin's List of Proof Techniques
70    
71     Proof by example:
72     The author gives only the case n=2 and suggests that it contains most
73     of the ideas of the general proof.
74    
75     Proof by intimidation:
76     'Trivial.'
77    
78     Proof by vigorous handwaving:
79     Works well in a classroom or seminar setting.
80    
81     Proof by cumbersome notation:
82     Best done with access to at least four alphabets and special symbols.
83    
84     Proof by exhaustion:
85     An issue or two of a journal devoted to your proof is useful.
86    
87     Proof by omission:
88     'The reader may easily supply the details.'
89     'The other 253 cases are analogous.'
90     '...'
91    
92     Proof by obfuscation:
93     A long plotless sequence of true and/or meaningless syntactically
94     related statements.
95    
96     Proof by wishful citation:
97     The author cites the negation, converse, or generalization of a theorem
98     from the literature to support his claims.
99    
100     Proof by funding:
101     How could three different government agencies be wrong?
102    
103     Proof by eminent authority:
104     'I saw Karp in the elevator and he said it was probably NP-complete.'
105    
106     Proof by personal communication:
107     'Eight-dimensional colored cycle stripping is NP-complete' [Karp,
108     personal commmunication].
109    
110     Proof by reduction to the wrong problem:
111     'To see that infinite-dimensional colored cycle stripping is decidable,
112     we reduce it to the halting problem.'
113    
114     Proof by reference to inaccessible literature:
115     The author cites a simple corollary of a theorem to be found in a
116     privately circulated memoir of the Slovenian Philological Society,
117     1883.
118    
119     Proof by importance:
120     A large body of useful consequences all follow from the proposition in question.
121    
122     Proof by accumulated evidence:
123     Long and diligent search has not revealed a counterexample.
124    
125     Proof by cosmology:
126     The negation of the proposition is unimaginable or meaningless. Popular
127     for proofs of the existence of God.
128    
129     Proof by mutual reference:
130     In reference A, Theorem 5 is said to follow from Theorem 3 in reference
131     B, which is shown to follow from Corollary 6.2 in reference C, which is
132     an easy consequence of Theorem 5 in reference A.
133    
134     Proof by meta-proof:
135     A method is given to construct the desired proof. The correctness of
136     the method is proved by any of these techniques.
137    
138     Proof by picture:
139     A more convincing form of proof by example. Combines well with proof by omission.
140    
141     Proof by vehement assertion:
142     It is useful to have some kind of authority relation to the audience.
143    
144     Proof by ghost reference:
145     Nothing even remotely resembling the cited theorem appears in the reference given.
146    
147     Proof by forward reference:
148     Reference is usually to a forthcoming paper of the author, which is
149     often not as forthcoming as at first.
150    
151     Proof by semantic shift:
152     Some standard but inconvenient definitions are changed for the
153     statement of the result.
154    
155     Proof by appeal to intuition:
156     Cloud-shaped drawings frequently help here.
157    
158     Proof by elimination of the counterexample:
159     'Assume for the moment that the hypothesis is true. Now, let's
160     suppose we find a counterexample. So what? QED.' (from Don Woods
161     <DON@SU-AI.ARPA>)
162    
163     [https://users.cs.northwestern.edu/~riesbeck/proofs.html]
164     %
165 root 1.469 polkit: Similar to sudo but much more complicated
166    
167     [https://github.com/helloSystem/hello/wiki/Welcome-and-unwelcome-technologies]
168     %
169     D-Bus: IPC, but complicated. Why do we need XML schema files, why is there
170     sometimes / notation and sometimes ., and so on. IPC is a good thing, but
171     this implementation is too complicated!
172    
173     [https://github.com/helloSystem/hello/wiki/Welcome-and-unwelcome-technologies]
174     %
175     Pipewire: Solution in search of a problem you don't have without Wayland?
176    
177     [https://github.com/helloSystem/hello/wiki/Welcome-and-unwelcome-technologies]
178     %
179     In general, Wayland is moving away from the modularity, portability, and standardization of the X server.
180    
181     [https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/wayland_on_netbsd_trials_and]
182     %
183     The Wayland "reference implementation" is a small set of libraries that
184     can be used to build a compositor or a client application. These libraries
185     currently have hard dependencies on Linux kernel APIs like epoll. In
186     pkgsrc we've patched the libraries to add kqueue(2) support, but the
187     patches haven't been accepted upstream. Wayland is written with the
188     assumption of Linux to the extent that every client application tends to
189     #include <linux/input.h> because Wayland's designers didn't see the need
190     to define a OS-neutral way to get mouse button IDs.
191    
192     [https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/wayland_on_netbsd_trials_and]
193     %
194 root 1.468 As best I can tell (from the long and unsatisfactory thread I pursed on
195     the Wayland Developers list some little time ago), the core issue with
196     Wayland and Color is social, not technical:
197    
198     1. none of the key developers have the faintest idea what Color or Color
199     Management is, and (worse):
200    
201     2. they have no idea why it would be at all important.
202    
203     [https://discuss.pixls.us/t/wayland-color-management/10804/4]
204     %
205     > (isn't it the case with ifconfig vs. ip already?)
206    
207     Wayland is more like they created ip but named the command ifconfig, then
208     told you to go fix your scripts.
209    
210     If the Wayland developers had sense, they would have carefully considered
211     how to make it a seemless transition for developers. Instead, they decided
212     they were the ultimate authority on software engineering and screw
213     developers, they are all doing it wrong anyways.
214    
215     [https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277#gistcomment-3862027]
216     %
217     Wayland is written with the assumption of Linux to the extent that every
218     client application tends to #include <linux/input.h> because Wayland's
219     designers didn't see the need to define a OS-neutral way to get mouse
220     button IDs.
221    
222     [https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/wayland_on_netbsd_trials_and]
223     %
224     ... a basic barebones TWM for X11 works better and offers more features
225     than Weston which contains ~20 times more code
226    
227     [https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277#gistcomment-3526530]
228     %
229     "It is true that Wayland somewhat sucks ass" -- The Lutris founder
230     [The Lutris founder quoting himself]
231     %
232     Eine solche Regulierung schafft man in Deutschland nur für wirklich
233     wichtige Themen wie zur Durchsetzung der Bereitstellung von Schnittstellen
234     für die Telekommunikationsüberwachung. Bei so irrelevanten Themen wie
235     dem Katastrophenschutz und der Alarmierung der Bevölkerung braucht man
236     den Markt nicht zu regulieren.
237    
238     [https://laforge.gnumonks.org/blog/20210719-smscb/]
239     From: Stephen Searle
240     Date: 18 Mar 1998, 09:00:00
241     Subject: A Clockwork Nethacker
242    
243     What if the next version of Nethack has a new class based on the Droogs
244     of Anthony Burgess' novel (and later Stanley Kubrick film) "A Clockwork
245     Orange"?
246    
247     I imagine the language would be radically different, like the
248     Samurai-speak only much, much more so...
249    
250     Your rookers glow red -more-
251     You tolchock the floating glazzy real horrorshow! -more-
252     The floating glazzy appears bezoomny.
253     You brosay your britva at the floating glazzy -more-
254     The floating glazzy is oobivatted!
255    
256     Ugh - that Pishcha was rotten! -more-
257     You feel a malenky bit bolnoy.
258    
259     You govoreet with the charlie of Bog -more-
260     The charlie asks you for some cutter for the temple.
261    
262     The devotchka flashes her groodies at you -more-
263     "Take off your platties, they're in the way" -more-
264     Raz stands still while you and the devotchka lie in each other's rookers...
265     (or:)
266     "You're such a bolshy chelloveck, I wish..."
267    
268     The rassoodock-flayer tolchocks you!
269     Your shlem blocks the attack to your gulliver.
270     The rassoodock-flayer tolchocks you real horrorshow!
271     Your brain is eaten! You feel gloopy!
272    
273     An enormous dook appears next to you!
274     You are poogly to snuffit and unable to itty!
275    
276     You slooshy someone cursing prestoopnicks.
277    
278     You ittied from the shop without pretty pollying! -more-
279     You crasted 100 gollies worth of veshches! -more-
280     A millicent's whistle zvooks -more-
281     The Keystone rozzes are after you!
282    
283    
284     Heh... I think I will have to write a little text filter for Nethack :-)
285    
286     -SJS
287    
288     [https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/c/3P5KdEPru6o/m/UxXyLvAsJUwJ]
289     %
290     "Validity of journal" is not an argument from authority fallacy, it is an
291     assessment of the prior on source quality.
292     %
293 root 1.467 You know what they say though, if the punishment for a crime is a fee
294     then it’s only a crime for the poor.
295     %
296 root 1.466 [https://signal.org/blog/cellebrite-vulnerabilities/]
297    
298     In completely unrelated news, upcoming versions of Signal will be
299     periodically fetching files to place in app storage. These files are never
300     used for anything inside Signal and never interact with Signal software or
301     data, but they look nice, and aesthetics are important in software. Files
302     will only be returned for accounts that have been active installs for some
303     time already, and only probabilistically in low percentages based on phone
304     number sharding. We have a few different versions of files that we think
305     are aesthetically pleasing, and will iterate through those slowly over
306     time. There is no other significance to these files.
307     %
308 root 1.465 "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's
309     life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy
310     that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes,
311     leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to
312     deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs. "
313     - John Rogers
314     %
315 root 1.464 The population is made up of four types of people: A small number hunt
316     witches. A large number go along with the hunt. A larger number are
317     silent. A tiny number oppose it. The final group — as if by magic —
318     become witches.
319    
320     – Bret Weinstein
321     %
322 root 1.463 Looting is transition to freedom.
323     - Rumsfeld 2003
324     %
325 root 1.462 I’m adding a new favorite Randroid argument to my list:
326    
327     1) "You disagree with me, therefore you don’t understand Rand’s ‘philosophy’."
328    
329     2) "You didn’t REALLY read her books and essays. Go read them again… you still disagree?" (defer back to 1)
330    
331     3) Angry name calling (always a favorite)
332    
333     4)!! "Read Rand’s disciples, they surely knew better what Rand REALLY meant." (Last line of defense when 1,2,3 fail)
334    
335     [commenter at http://www.rotman.uwo.ca/the-system-that-wasnt-there-ayn-rands-failed-philosophy-and-why-it-matters/]
336     %
337 root 1.461 Doubly-linked lists are hard
338     - a rust tutorial
339     %
340 root 1.460 As someone who has been acquainted with a surprisingly large number of
341     people who write fantasy, I can tell you that the difference between
342     fantasy and reality is that fantasy has to make sense.
343    
344     [Tyvor Winn, https://pandasthumb.org/archives/2019/07/fire-breathing-dinosaurs.html]
345     %
346     The overarching theme of the code of conduct has always been Be Nice and
347     that has been problematic for a long time.
348    
349     [https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/334058/are-there-specific-issues-with-unwelcoming-behavior-toward-lgbtq-persons-on-stac/]
350     %
351 root 1.459 GNU Powered it
352     GPL Protected it
353     GOD Blessed it
354    
355     [from Nala Ginrut's mail signature]
356     %
357 root 1.458 a friend once told me that "ex-mother-in-law-to-be" was the most wonderful
358     kinship term she'd ever heard.
359    
360     [http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler/aue/tense.html]
361     %
362     > I have long considered that the BRs were written by the in-group, for
363     > the in-group, and do not adequately call out the expected processes for
364     > an outsider wanting to join the in-group.
365    
366     I don't agree.
367    
368     > The outsiders sometimes struggle not because they are trying to
369     > accomplish anything of wrong intent, but because the step by step path
370     > is not as clear as it could be.
371    
372     As an outsider, it's true that you are expected to know how to be a
373     trustworthy CA. The ecosystem is not designed to help you to learn how
374     to be trustworthy - the ecosystem does not improve from having more
375     applicants who lack that knowledge - and so yes, the baseline expectation
376     is that applying CAs are operated beyond reproach.
377    
378     [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1427262]
379     [darkmatter uae trying to get a root certificate for nefarious purposes]
380     %
381     > that way you can adapt your own UID allocation to reliably avoid that range.
382    
383     That is my major issue with systemd: That it postulates that everybody
384     else shall adapt to its conventions, w/o configurability, even if there
385     other conventions exist for a very long time.
386    
387     [https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/]
388     %
389     static void die_you_gravy_sucking_pig_dog(void) __dead;
390    
391     [minix/sbin/shutdown sources]
392     %
393 root 1.457 However, as you can imagine, this is a terrible idea for some zones. If
394     you could walk the .gov zone, you could learn every US government agency
395     and government agency portal.
396    
397     [wow, it's terrible if people could learn about every US government
398     agency? of the people, for the people, no?]
399    
400     [https://blog.cloudflare.com/black-lies/]
401     %
402     Most of the images at NASA have their EXIF data completely removed.
403    
404     [hollycrap in https://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1016]
405     %
406     The theory of gravity explaining our solar system, can easily be disproved
407     as objects that only had attractive force towards each other would end up
408     smashing into each other, sooner or later.
409    
410     [aa5 in https://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1957]
411     %
412     Windows 98 "SE" "Suckers Edition"
413     Windows "ME" Mistake Edition
414     Windows "NT" Not to Terrible
415     Windows 2000 ahhhhh! A good OS!
416     Windows "XP" eXtra Problems
417     %
418 root 1.456 Instead of banning every word out there, we should make the mental effort
419     to do better than the political correctness movement that stops at the
420     surface. So, let’s call it master-slave, and instead make a call for US,
421     where a sizable black population is very poor, to have free healthcare,
422     to have cops that are less biased against non-white people, to stop death
423     penalty. This makes really a difference.
424    
425     [http://antirez.com/news/122]
426     %
427     "MASTER/Slave" is ungood crimethinkful oldspeak. plusgood rectify unword.
428     Is Minitrue doubleplusgoodwork truthwise. chocorat anyone?
429    
430     [https://github.com/django/django/pull/2692#issuecomment-44847465]
431     %
432 root 1.455 Somebody should tell EU, 1984 was not an instruction manual.
433    
434     [BhishmPitamah, in https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/9f9za4/europe_just_voted/]
435     %
436 root 1.454 [supposedly from the firmware update script for certain tesla car models]
437    
438     # We should have some way here of keeping the car parked. What if
439     # they try to drive off while we're in the middle of an upgrade?
440    
441     # We should also have a mutex around everything that follows. What if
442     # unpack.sh gets triggered on the same tarball twice? This is more of
443     # a problem now that we might be deferring installation.
444    
445     # We should also have a recovery system. What if we remove the
446     # tarball filename but this process is killed before it can complete?
447    
448     [https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3862643&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=87#post]
449     %
450 root 1.453 [https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2015#tech-editor]
451    
452     Vim 15.2%
453     Emacs 3.8%
454    
455     [https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2016#technology-development-environments]
456    
457     Vim 26.1%
458     Emacs 5.2%
459     %
460 root 1.452 Systemd dies if there is no cgroup support in the kernel.
461    
462     Poettering: "To make this work we’d need a patch, as nobody of us tests this"
463    
464     R! /dir/.* destroys root.
465    
466     Poettering: "I am not sure I'd consider this much of a problem. Yeah, it's a UNIX pitfall, but "rm -rf /foo/.*" will work the exact same way, no?"
467    
468     Processes owned by a user with a leading zero in the name are started with root privilege..
469    
470     Pottering: "I don't think there's anything to fix in systemd here"
471    
472     Systemd kill background processes after user logs out.
473    
474     Poettering: "In my view it was actually quite strange of UNIX that it by default let arbitrary user code stay around unrestricted after logout."
475    
476     'I have an issue with journal corruptions and need to know what is the accepted way to deal with them.'
477    
478     Poettering: "Yupp, journal corruptions result in rotation, and when reading we try to make the best of it. they are nothing we really need to fix hence."
479    
480     'Poettering locked and limited conversation to collaborators on 17 Apr'
481    
482     [https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10927261&cid=54905721]
483     %
484     [raid controller vendor lock-in techniques]
485    
486     >>> Are HP/PMCS doing the Intel/LSI thing with controllers only working on
487     >>> their own servers.
488     >>
489     >> you mean the DELL PERC5/i 6/i tape of smbus pins mod thing? (Dell first!)
490     >
491     > No the Intel where that trick doesn't work thing.
492    
493     [https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/hp-p400-why-so-cheap-on-ebay.2308/page-2]
494     %
495 root 1.451 The way I see it, once you move to Firefox 57, you're ready for Chrome.
496    
497     [from a discussion about how deleting all existing extensions and force-replacing
498     them by inferior webextensions (if at all) is a great idea]
499     %
500 root 1.450 Chronology of Significant Events
501     ================================
502    
503 root 1.449 November 2002
504    
505     Rahman wearing only socks and diaper; supervisor has concern regarding
506     hypothermia Rahman subjected to 48 hours of sleep deprivation, rough
507     treatment, cold shower and other measures but remained noncompliant.
508    
509     ---
510    
511     Subjected to cold conditions and minimum food and sleep... confused due to
512     dehydration and fatigue.
513    
514     ---
515    
516     Cable recommends future use of continued environmental deprivations with
517     interrogations 18 out of 24 hours daily
518    
519     ---
520    
521     Linguist asks questions about the temperature at which hypothermia occurs
522    
523     November 19 2200 hrs
524     guard check - Rahman is alive.
525    
526     2300 hrs
527     guard check - Rahman is alive.
528    
529     November 20 0400 hrs
530     guard check - Rahman is alive.
531    
532     0800 hrs
533     guard check - Rahman is alive.
534    
535     1000 hrs
536     guard check - Rahman is dead.
537    
538     [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/oct/09/cia-torture-black-site-enhanced-interrogation]
539     %
540 root 1.448 In the quiet moments, he set his hand terminal to the Eros feed. Back
541     when he’d been a kid, there had been a performance artist making
542     the rounds—Jila Sorormaya, her name was. As he recalled, she’d
543     intentionally corrupted data-storage devices and then put the data stream
544     through her music kit. She’d gotten into trouble when some of the
545     proprietary code of the storage device software got incorporated into her
546     music and posted. Miller hadn’t been a sophisticate. He’d figured
547     another nutcase artist had to get a real job, and the universe could only
548     be a better place.
549    
550     [E. Corey, Leviathan Wakes, p. 466]
551     %
552 root 1.447 > Speaking of Apple... Anybody remember their ads against multitasking? I
553     > always assumed that was against the Amiga as well but probably any
554     > computer at the time that did multitasking. I think their tag line was
555     > like "One person. One computer. One Task." or something like. Those ads
556     > really tried to sell the distraction of multitasking. What a crazy time
557     > in technology.
558    
559     -P
560     Not as bad as telling us we are holding the phone wrong.
561    
562     [http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=72811]
563     %
564     > Simon Cooke wrote:
565     > *shrugs* I don’t recall ever hearing that the length of a word was CPU specific.
566    
567     I think I’m going to add this to my random signature collection.
568    
569     [https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20050131-00/?p=36563]
570     %
571 root 1.446 Big congratulations to Acer, who used 55555555-5555-5555-5555-555555555555
572     for this in one of their db entries. Not only did they win the random
573     number generator lottery to get that, but also experienced a minimum
574     of 3 single bit errors, since the closest valid GUID to that is
575     55555555-5555-4555-9555-555555555555
576    
577     [https://blog.uncooperative.org/blog/2014/10/23/uefi-security-databases/]
578     %
579 root 1.445 Contrary to what Carrier says, it is not clear to me that Amy Frank or
580     anyone else accused him of sexual assault. Carrier’s lawsuit makes
581     the tenuous argument that Amy Frank implied sexual assault by using the
582     hashtag #sexualassault.
583    
584     [https://freethoughtblogs.com/atrivialknot/2017/01/04/i-liked-richard-carrier-past-tense/]
585     %
586 root 1.444 From: Linus Torvalds
587    
588     And yes, a large part of this may be that I no longer feel like I can
589     trust "init" to do the sane thing. You all presumably know why.
590    
591     [https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/7/6/577]
592     %
593     > How is the old way a problem?
594    
595     That's systemd in a nutshell (and pulseaudio too). Replace well-known
596     things that are not broken with something obscure and clunky that thinks
597     it's smarter than you.
598    
599     [https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9170111&cid=52207557]
600     %
601 root 1.443 Systemd is a cancer and it will keep spreading until the host is
602     dead. Just like cancer it's not malicious, it sincerely believes it knows
603     better than the healthy cells it's infecting, but that doesn't make it
604     less lethal.
605    
606     [https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9552479&cid=52745591]
607     %
608 root 1.442 From: Richard Stallman
609    
610     [...]
611    
612     > then that sounds like a layering violation.
613    
614     The layering authority has no jurisdiction over GNU.
615     If this solution works, and nobody proposes a better one,
616     we won't let "layering" get in the way.
617     %
618 root 1.470 "Teyrnas Unedig Prydain Fawr a Gogledd Iwerddon" shortened to "Teyrnas
619     Unedig" or "Y Deyrnas Unedig" abbreviated "DU", or "Rìoghachd Aonaichte
620     Bhreatainn is Èireann a Tuath" shortened to "Rìoghachd Aonaichte" are
621     also now legal names for the UK.
622 root 1.441
623     [Brian Inglis in 774ac519-ceb1-7c04-d2b5-2f2ed851cb61@SystematicSw.ab.ca]
624     %
625     From: Russ Allbery
626     To: tz@iana.org
627     Message-ID: <87h97n58bp.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>
628    
629     > Companies are unlikely to change their processes unless changes break
630     > existing processes (like the version change) or changes are documented
631     > in an RFC, which can be presented to SOx auditors and their ilk, to
632     > document and justify why they spent money and changed a process, along
633     > with the documentation on change impact including budget,
634     > authorizations, and the dozens of other side efforts of production
635     > changes, summarized above by DG as "That doesn’t work for everyone."
636    
637     A bit of a digression, but the way companies treat free software projects
638     and maintainers is a pet peeve of mine.
639    
640     It should be obvious that the only people a company can expect to follow
641     any of those rules are people the company is paying or otherwise has a
642     contractual relationship with that requires following those rules.
643     Otherwise, the company should be prepared to pay one of their employees to
644     jump through those hoops if they want those hoops jumped through.
645    
646     It's standard practice for companies who depend heavily on a free software
647     project to have an internal maintainer or advocate for that free software
648     project who will translate whatever the public maintainer does into the
649     form that the company needs to manage it internally, including maintaining
650     private branches as needed, pulling up unreleased patches as needed, and
651     adjusting for upstream changes that don't match the needs of the company
652     (or clearly advocating for compromises or modifications that work for the
653     entire community). This is a cost of doing business. My employer
654     certainly does this for free software we use. It's fairly normal.
655    
656     Some companies don't *want* to spend that money, and try to do it on the
657     cheap by not having that person or the mechanisms for importing free
658     software properly. A few of them then complain at the free software
659     maintainer when they run into problems. But those complaints should not
660     carry any more weight than the complaints of any other user, and should be
661     weighed against the work style, goals, and available time of the free
662     software maintainer. After all, the actor in this situation that has (by
663     far) the most resources and hence the most ability to adopt to changes,
664     whether they want to or not, is the company, not the free software
665     maintainer.
666     %
667 root 1.440 [About the Unicode CLDR (Common Locale Data Repository) project, specifically, timezone names]
668    
669     They also seem to think that abbreviations should be only used locally,
670     such as "BST" only being used by British English. One would think that if
671     an American was talking about DST in the UK they would also use the term
672     "BST", but no:
673     http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8498
674     %
675     To: Time zone mailing list <tz@iana.org>
676     Subject: Re: [tz] Request regarding IANA update for Novosibirsk Time Zone
677    
678     Shruthi Venkataramanan -X (shruthve - WIPRO LIMITED at Cisco) wrote:
679     > When can we expect the updated version
680    
681     About three weeks ago.
682     %
683 root 1.439 [...] trying to make digital files uncopyable is like trying to make water
684     not wet. -- Bruce Schneier
685     %
686     [...] in order to be a good Christian one must first be a great hypocrite.
687    
688     [http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.de/2013/06/the-bible-is-nothing-but-hearsay.html]
689     %
690 root 1.438 Know that you suck, you suck so much that you suck the future you wich
691     was able to go back in time to suck you from the past. You are an
692     neverending paradoxial loop of suckage. Now suck the fuck off.
693    
694     [http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/vats-vs-rtwp.23266/page-2]
695     %
696     From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
697    
698     Arthur David Olson <arthurdavidolson@gmail.com> writes:
699    
700     > From The Economist: "Why time may be running out for the leap second"
701     [http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/11/economist-explains-4]
702    
703     | The first is simple, ancient and intuitive, and based on the rotation of
704     | the Earth, under which each complete rotation (or, equivalently, each of
705     | the Sun's apparent trips through the sky) counts as one day.
706    
707     Of course, these are actually not equivalent; they're different by a
708     full day per year.
709     %
710 root 1.437 Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir
711     de la faire plus courte. -- Blaise Pascal, Provincial Letters : Letter XVI.
712     [I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time.]
713     %
714     File names are infinite in length where infinity is set to 255 characters.
715     -- Peter Collinson, "The Unix File System"
716     %
717     Over the past 20 years - its never been a question of the "perfect
718     storage media vendor" - its been a question of "who has screwed
719     me - lately?".
720     -- JSS, former Amiga HW Engineer, Rework tech of 400,000 defective
721     Seagate HDD's, Class of '94.
722    
723     [http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1095235&cid=26492885]
724     %
725     I also proposed making malloc(0) perfectly fine, since zero is a perfectly
726     fine value. I also, in the same letter, proposed making zero-sized
727     arrays legal, mostly so you could do the extend-the-struct trick for a
728     variable-sized array as the last field of the struct.
729    
730     I got two letters back as answer to my one. #1: Malloc(0) shouldn't work
731     because zero-sized arrays don't work. #2: Zero-sized arrays shouldn't work
732     because malloc(0) doesn't work. Well played, ANSI C committee, and may
733     your lives be a living hell.
734    
735     [Rob Pike in https://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=4142#c2]
736     %
737 root 1.436 Using a screwdriver was not a normal part of the experimental protocol.
738     [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Slotin#Criticality_accident]
739     %
740     Newbie: Hi. I've been using Lisp for about half a year now, programming
741     for three years. I discovered this group and wondered if you could help me
742     out with a problem I'm having?
743    
744     Smug: Hi! Always glad to have new blood. Sure thing, just ask.
745    
746     Snide: Heya New! You bet, ask anything and we'll try to help.
747    
748     Newbie: Okay, I'm trying to filter a list, something like Perl's grep. I
749     want to set up a predicate and have the new list be only those elements
750     from the old list that satisfy it. I know there's some standard idiom for
751     doing this, I just can't find it anywhere...
752    
753     Smug: Perl's grep was inspired by Lisp's higher-order functions, you know. :)
754    
755     Newbie: Oh, cool. :)
756    
757     Smug: But it's inferior since it has balky syntax.
758    
759     Snide: You can do it with (mapcan (lambda (item) (when (predicate item) (list item))) list).
760     [http://c2.com/]
761     %
762     Unfortunately a Russian spy stole the last meg of a LISP program for
763     controlling our nuclear defense systems. Fortunately, it was all
764     right-parenthesis.
765     [http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhyWeHateLisp]
766     %
767     Always wanted to travel back in time to try fighting a younger version of
768     yourself?
769     Software development is the career for you!
770    
771     [https://twitter.com/Loh/status/411282297816498176]
772     %
773 root 1.435 [...] undisguised clarity is easily mistaken for arrogance.
774     -- Richard Dawkins
775     %
776     There are many choices of elliptic-curve signature systems. The standard
777     choice, ECDSA, is reasonable if you don't care about simplicity, speed,
778     and security.
779    
780     [http://blog.cr.yp.to/20140323-ecdsa.html]
781     %
782     [In answer to: "Is the NSA aware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS? The RSA?"]
783    
784     We are unaware of any weaknesses in the DES or the DSS when properly implemented and
785     used for the purposes for which they both are designed.
786     -— National Security Agency, June 1992
787     %
788     In the past decade there have been many attacks against TLS. With the
789     exception of CRIME, not one of them relied on any results that were not
790     known at the time the TLS 1.0 standard was being written. [...] Every time
791     this standards group has had a choice to make regarding cryptography,
792     they have made the wrong one. [...] Were TLS to be submitted by an
793     undergraduate as a solution to this problem it would earn an F.
794    
795     [http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg10598.html]
796     %
797     tiny hsv2rgb
798     float3 h2r(float h,float s,float v){return lerp(saturate((abs(frac(h+float3(1,2,3)/3)*6-3)-1)),1,s)*v;}
799    
800     vec3 hsv(float h,float s,float v) {
801     return mix(vec3(1.),clamp((abs(fract(h+vec3(3.,2.,1.)/3.)*6.-3.)-1.),0.,1.),s)*v;
802     }
803     %
804     Haha, no FPS counter but rather a "Next frame"-button :)
805     Only Java makes it possible!
806    
807     [http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=7920&page=1]
808     %
809     'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and
810     generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is
811     extremely poettering''
812     %
813     "There is no use in arguing with a man who can multiply anything by the square root of minus 1."
814     -- Pirates of Venus, Edgar Rice Burroughs
815     %
816     "I drank what?!"
817     -- Socrates
818     %
819     It would be bad for OpenPGP to have a standard that could not be
820     implemented on light bulbs (I used to say cell phones, but they're now
821     400MHz devices), forcing the light bulb people to use something else.
822    
823     Jon Callas in
824     http://www.imc.org/ietf-openpgp/mail-archive/msg06396.html
825     %
826     "If you have four groups working on a compiler, you'll get a 4-pass compiler."
827     -- Conway's Law
828     %
829     The mac version doesn't work on older versions of the operating system
830     (this is part of Apple's planned obsolescence hellhole; the latest version
831     of xcode won't build for older systems but I'm forced to update to it
832     because the older ones won't build for newer systems and I've been forced
833     to update the operating system on my ipad so UGH; basically I have to
834     have multiple xcode versions installed and I really can't be bothered
835     untangling this mess right now so).
836    
837     [http://mightyvision.blogspot.de/2013/03/7drl-success-86856527.html]
838     %
839     Option "NoPM" "boolean"
840     Disables something to do with power management events. Default: PM
841     enabled on platforms that support it.
842     [xorg.conf(5)]
843     %
844     > Yes, this would be something _in addition_ to what the FSF does.
845     > Grant money could be used to hire one or two fresh graduates that
846     > would work on code.
847    
848     Graduates in which discipline? Computer science? This sounds to me
849     like the idea to hire one or two fresh graduates in English literature
850     and language with the idea to let them start writing novels.
851     [87liaj740v.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org]
852     %
853 root 1.434 [and that's why I don't support gentoo anymore]
854     As with Francois, I used to use ccache for recompiling packages that
855     hadn’t finished the first time — but for a different reason. At
856     the time, I had overrated memory, and a BIOS without a memory clock
857     option. The system was generally fine, but once in awhile would scramble
858     a memory transfer enough to cause a crash. CCache was a LOT of help in
859     that instance, as it’s what allowed me to even install Gentoo at all —
860     there’s no way I could have gotten thru gcc, (monolitic) X, glibc, or
861     the then unsplit KDE compiles, without it.
862     %
863     Kay, you are so full of sh*t that it's not funny. You're refusing to
864     acknowledge your bugs, you refuse to fix them even when a patch is
865     sent to you, and then you make excuses for the fact that we have to
866     work around *your* bugs, and say that we should have done so from the
867     very beginning.
868     [Linus in http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1369384]
869     %
870     systemd creates user session information in
871     /run/user/$user . I brought up with lennart the fact that this would
872     only permit one session per user. He rejected out of hand the fact
873     that more than one session would ever be needed, because Gnome only
874     allowed one session per user.
875     [http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/04/msg00751.html]
876     %
877 root 1.433 > Mailman archives! IIRC Heiko mentioned that there are more disputes
878     > about Lennart Poettering and his software on ALL mailing lists, than
879     > about anything else.
880     >
881     > Why is it like that?
882    
883     Probably because he has all the arrogance of DJB but none of the skill.
884    
885     [http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/44574]
886     %
887     [from a discussion about GNOME 3 "branding" mentality]
888    
889     >> However, there are a number of serious problems:
890     >>
891     >> 1. Extensions break with every release. As Paolo said earlier, "This is
892     >> simply the result of not (yet) having a defined extension API." Yet this is
893     >> also part of the design: extensions specify versions of gnome-shell they
894     >> work with, so are trivially broken by new versions even if they might work.
895     >
896     > I don't think you understand well why this was designed this way.
897    
898     That's the sort of thing people say to the judge of a serial killer.
899     The reasons don't matter for calling the results terrible.
900     %
901     (partial) Beaufort Table
902     Name # km/h (min) m/s (min)
903     Calm 0 0 0
904     Light Air 1 1.1 0.3
905     Light Breeze 2 5.6 1.6
906     Gentle Breeze 3 12 3.4
907     Moderate Breeze 4 20 5.5
908     Fresh Breeze 5 29 8
909     Strong Breeze 6 39 10.8
910     Moderate Gale 7 50 13.9
911     Fresh Gale 8 62 17.2
912     Strong Gale 9 75 20.8
913     %
914     "I have an open mind (I did consider voting liberal democrat once)."
915     - random imdb forum quote excerpt
916     %
917     "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure
918     sign of a diseased mind." [Terry Pratchett]
919     %
920     The butcher who kills the baby to see how it comes apart did choose his
921     profession because of his sensitive soul. He chose it because death and
922     suffering, blood and gore, appeal to him. Dismembering the baby was always
923     on the cards.
924     %
925     [random comment from amule sources]
926     // trust noone ;-)
927     // lol, useless comment but made me lmao
928     // wtf you guys are weird.
929     %
930 root 1.432 Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid.
931     - Kin Hubbard
932     %
933     [random .sig]
934     I'm a muslim.
935    
936     No I won't email you a bomb if you tick me off, but only because I don't know how to.
937     %
938     [...] don't do a double-take if you cuss in front of a woman. If she's read any
939     of the kernel code (notably arch/sparc/), she's heard of the word "fuck"
940     before.
941    
942     [Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO]
943     %
944     <imho>
945    
946     BASIC - fun! (For small programs at least.)
947     Smalltalk - fun! (Until you have to interact with anything else.)
948     Lisp - fun! (Until your eyeballs fall out from looking at too many parentheses.)
949     Arduino sketches - fun! (As long as they fit on one page.)
950    
951     ObjC - sort of fun...once you understand 200 Cocoa classes.
952     Java - public static void not fun.
953     C++ - definitely not fun. STL seems like it should be fun but it isn't.
954     C - usually not fun.
955    
956     What about modern scripting languages?
957    
958     JavaScript - sort of fun! Until you have to deal with the DOM or various not-fun frameworks.
959     Ruby - fun! Until you try to do something with Rails.
960     Python - fun! Until you try to write a GUI app.
961    
962     </imho>
963    
964     [http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/2/]
965     %
966     "Die deutschen Zensoren------------------- --------------------------
967     Dummköpfe-------- -------------------------------------------"
968     %
969    
970     * GFX_IS_DISPLAY_MODE_SUPPORTED
971     *
972     * This routine sets the specified display mode.
973    
974     n = n%2 ? n : ++n;
975     [plan9, /sys/src/cmd/eqn/paren.c]
976     %
977     # The user is always right.
978     if test "${PATH_SEPARATOR+set}" != set; then
979     [autoconf]
980     %
981     from linux-2.6.37/fs/fcntl.c:
982    
983     /*
984     * We need to detect attempts to do dup2() over allocated but still
985     * not finished descriptor. NB: OpenBSD avoids that at the price of
986     * extra work in their equivalent of fget() - they insert struct
987     * file immediately after grabbing descriptor, mark it larval if
988     * more work (e.g. actual opening) is needed and make sure that
989     * fget() treats larval files as absent. Potentially interesting,
990     * but while extra work in fget() is trivial, locking implications
991     * and amount of surgery on open()-related paths in VFS are not.
992     * FreeBSD fails with -EBADF in the same situation, NetBSD "solution"
993     * deadlocks in rather amusing ways, AFAICS. All of that is out of
994     * scope of POSIX or SUS, since neither considers shared descriptor
995     * tables and this condition does not arise without those.
996     */
997     %
998     Taken straight out of lilo... This way of intermixing case with if (0)
999     was new to me:
1000    
1001     switch(c)
1002     {
1003     case 'x': base=16; type |= 4; if(0) {
1004     case 'o': base= 8; type |= 4; } if(0) {
1005     case 'u': base=10; type |= 4; } if(0) {
1006     case 'd': base=-10; }
1007     switch(type)
1008     {
1009     case 0: val=va_arg(ap, short); break;
1010     case 1: val=va_arg(ap, int); break;
1011     case 2: val=va_arg(ap, long); break;
1012     case 4: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned short); break;
1013     case 5: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned int); break;
1014     case 6: val=va_arg(ap, unsigned long); break;
1015     default:val=0; break;
1016     }
1017     cp = __numout(val,base);
1018     if(0) {
1019     case 's':
1020     cp=va_arg(ap, char *);
1021     }
1022     %
1023     Also, it is not true that UTC-1 is THE civilian time scale. While it
1024     is certainly one, physical seconds are as enshrined in law as UTC
1025     timestamps. Try arguing that you weren't caught speeding at midnight
1026     at the end of the year because the calculation should have used an
1027     extra second and see how far you get :-)
1028     [Nick Maclaren, in <8ta60d$aq6$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>]
1029     %
1030     > > Actually it's not fully backward compatible. As I was just reminded, the
1031     > > libc `sync' function, which is what the fileutils sync uses (sync is in
1032     > > fileutils, not sh-utils), is backward-compatible and thus not synchronous
1033     > > (it passes a zero wait flag in file_syncfs).
1034     >
1035     > Hmm. Hurd sync should use the libc sync function too; it should not
1036     > set the wait flag. If it does, that's a bug.
1037    
1038     It must be a confusing feature, because the code was written by the
1039     infamous Michael I. Bushnell (may he rest in peace), who did not write bugs.
1040    
1041     [from a random discussion about hurd, 199901032206.RAA27962@baalperazim.frob.com]
1042     %
1043     It is immediately apparent from these figures that moving-arm disks
1044     should never be used, neither for paging applications nor for any other
1045     heavy-traffic auxiliary memory applications.
1046    
1047     Peter J. Denning -- Virtual Memory (1970)
1048    
1049     http://portal.acm.org/ft_gateway.cfm?id=356573&type=pdf&coll=portal&dl=ACM&CFID=15151515&CFTOKEN=6184618
1050     %
1051     (i was impatient to bikeshed with diego on code indenting... btw this
1052     whole indentation rules/enforcement should gone, it's nonsense, i dont
1053     know any coder who uses consistent indentation over all his code... only
1054     beginner programmers do, sometimes. if anyone wants to read the code in
1055     nice indentation, he can anytime run a code formatter with his favourite
1056     settings)
1057    
1058     http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2011-January/104674.html
1059     %
1060     How do I deal with memory leaks?
1061    
1062     By writing code that doesn't have any. [...]
1063    
1064     [From Bjarne Stroustrup's C++ Style and Technique FAQ]
1065     %
1066     This kind of arguments doesn't really make sense for Fedora. We should
1067     ship the best implementation, not the most "tried and true" one.
1068    
1069     http://www.devheads.net/linux/fedora/development/libjpeg-f14.htm
1070     %
1071     The situation in the US: If you do anything before 2067 to preserve the
1072     recording on a wax-cylinder from 1895, the terrorists win. Do you really
1073     hate hard-working American families that much? Thank God Senator Orrin
1074     Hatch and the RIAA love America's children more than you do.
1075    
1076     The situation in Europe: Sound recordings up to 1960 are already in the
1077     public domain. The terrorists have won. Our only hope of restoring the
1078     justice of eternal and infinite copyright (and therefore saving our own
1079     children's lives!) lies in the selfless efforts of the likes of Bono and
1080     Cliff Richard, as they cry all the way to the bank about artists not being
1081     rewarded for their creativity.
1082    
1083     Let's hope that by the time you finish reading this sentence, copyright
1084     will have been extended another 99 years... you know, to justly compensate
1085     that bloke sitting by a mic in 1895. If he'd thought that in 2066
1086     librarians would be able to copy his recording without his permission, he
1087     would never have made it in the first place.
1088    
1089     http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52573
1090     %
1091     "I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in
1092     future understand things" -- Jörg Schilling
1093     %
1094     Nobody has bought freaking 160GB of music from the iTunes store. I figured
1095     it out once, conservatively it was like $53,000 of music. And yet somehow
1096     Apple has managed to sell tens of millions of iPods with up to 160GB
1097     capacity, and even the smaller iPods would cost many thousands of dollars
1098     to fill from the iTunes store. The iPod was worthwhile because of piracy.
1099    
1100     http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/09/intels-walled-garden-plan-to-put-av-vendors-out-of-business.ars?comments=1#comment-20806800
1101     %
1102     "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
1103     Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
1104     - Mohandas Gandhi
1105     %
1106     "And so I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
1107     the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the
1108     handiwork of the Lord."
1109     - Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" Vol. I, chapter 2, Murphy Ed. (p. 46)
1110     %
1111     Scientific Scrutiny and Disclosure
1112    
1113     I was wondering how anyone possibly could conclude from this exchange that
1114     Lenski was hiding something. I came to the conclusion that some people
1115     must not understand how scientific scrutiny works. I wrote a guide.
1116    
1117     Scientific scrutiny works like this:
1118     Scientist A publishes results.
1119    
1120     Scientist B: A, I tried duplicating your experiment, but parameters x, y,
1121     and z that I need were not in your article. I need you to disclose to me
1122     x, y, and z that you used at the time. What are they?
1123    
1124     A: x, y, and z are such and such.
1125     B: Using x, y, and z, my result doesn't agree with yours at all. Are you
1126     sure you did the procedures that you claimed?
1127     A: ...
1128     B: You fraud!
1129    
1130     Scientific scrutiny does not work like this:
1131    
1132     A publishes results.
1133    
1134     B: I have Generic Skepticism toward your article. Under code viii of the
1135     Publication Criteria, I demand that you give me all of your data!
1136     A: ... ok...? It seems that everything you would need is already in the
1137     article. Did you have something specific in mind?
1138     B: A has refused to attach all data he has ever used for the
1139     experiment. He is withholding information and thus hiding something.
1140    
1141     -- Carafe 01:42, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
1142     [http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservapedia:Lenski_affair_talk_1]
1143     %
1144     [regarding sites requesting visitors to allow advertisements and not block
1145     them because they need the money to operate]
1146    
1147     "The readers are not the customer. The customer is the advertiser, and the
1148     readers are the product which that website promises to deliver. But the
1149     readers, being the product and not the customer, have no obligation to the
1150     site or its bottom line."
1151     %
1152     "..but a short time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of
1153     the Jewish religion before his principles were departed from by those
1154     who professed to be his special servants, & perverted into an engine for
1155     enslaving mankind, and aggrandizing their oppressors in church & state:
1156     that the purest system of morals ever before preached to man has been
1157     adulterated & sophisticated, by artificial constructions, into a mere
1158     contrivance to filch wealth & power to themselves, that rational men not
1159     being able to swallow their impious heresies, in order to force them down
1160     their throats, they raise the hue & cry of infidelity, while themselves
1161     are the greatest obstacles to the advancement of the real doctrines of
1162     Jesus, and do in fact constitute the real Anti-Christ."
1163     – Thomas Jefferson to William Baldwin, 19 January 1810 (draft – never sent)
1164     %
1165     Ignorance is the state of not having the data.
1166    
1167     Idiocy is the state of having the data, but not being able to process it.
1168    
1169     Willful ignorance is the state of censoring out all data you don’t want to hear.
1170     %
1171     ["only those parts in the bible I like are authentic"]
1172    
1173     >>>> but doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support slavery, genocide,
1174     >>>> and the beating of children?
1175     >>>
1176     >>> Subjugation of women...
1177     >>
1178     >> "doesn't the Christian bible explicitly support ..." Only for bible
1179     >> literalists and those who ignore what Jesus himself taught. By all
1180     >> means call out any religious person who is acting immorally but try to
1181     >> understand that the rest of us who are trying to follow the Way as best
1182     >> as we can don't usually have the clout to wrestle the Falwells and the
1183     >> Robertsons and their ilk to the ground. If we can agree on that, then,
1184     >> shake partner.
1185     >
1186     > Ever read Matthew 5:31-32? Jesus said it and taught it.
1187     >
1188     > He says my wife is an adultress since she divorced her 1st husband all
1189     > on account of her not taking his punches and kicks with good-natured
1190     > humor. That "pearl of wisdom" also says that I'm an adulterer for
1191     > choosing to spend the rest of my life with her.
1192     >
1193    
1194     As written, it seems pretty clear. Until you remember the book of matthew
1195     was written decades after Jesus's death based on memories and oral
1196     traditions, not to mention translation inaccuracies and ulterior motives
1197     of the writers. No one really knows what Jesus really said or what he
1198     really meant. It could all be wildly inacurrate. I think the fault is in
1199     those who would use those words to justify their shabby treatment of you
1200     and your wife.
1201     %
1202     Atheists care about religion for the same reason other people care about
1203     cancer. If you aren't careful, it will kill you, and if you are, it could
1204     still kill you. - arestheblue
1205     %
1206     Once upon a time there was the CAT working group whose name was an
1207     abbreviation for "Common Authentication Technology". It produced IETF
1208     specifications for GSS-API.
1209    
1210     It was succeeded by the kitten working group, which has been working on
1211     the next-generation GSS-API specifications.
1212    
1213     There is now a proposal for a MOGGIES working group, which will work on
1214     Mechanisms Of Generating Generically Interoperable & Effective Security.
1215    
1216     [http://fanf.livejournal.com/?style=mine]
1217     %
1218     [from the minix 3 users guide]
1219    
1220     ELLE is a simple and clear text editor (once you've figured out the key commands).
1221     %
1222     [Tips how to deal with complaints when running TOR exit nodes]
1223    
1224     During the conversation make sure you explain a few points:
1225     [...]
1226     You are not insane. You may be insane, but we don't want the
1227     complaintant to guess this is true.
1228     %
1229     "One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code."
1230     - Ken Thompson.
1231     %
1232     http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-01-16-50-Math-Project-released.html
1233    
1234     "Scientific calculations are becoming a reality in Syllable"
1235    
1236     Dunning-Kruger at its best - the tool that "carries Syllable to
1237     universities" can calculate sine and cosine values of integer inputs...
1238     source code excerpt:
1239    
1240     int sn()
1241     {
1242     char pwr;
1243    
1244     int input1 = 0;
1245     double output1 = 0;
1246    
1247     system("clear");
1248     cout<<"This is the Sin() calculator, please enter a number"<<endl;
1249     cin>>input1;
1250     output1 = (sin(input1));
1251     cout<<"Sin() of"<< input1<<" is: "<<output1<<endl;
1252     cout<<"Please press 'a' for recalculate or 'm' to return to main menu"<<endl;
1253     cin>>pwr;
1254     if(pwr == 'a')
1255     sq();
1256     if(pwr == 'm')
1257     system("pause");
1258    
1259     }
1260     %
1261     It allows a web browser and a web server to have a persistent, two-way
1262     full-duplex connection using just one TCP connection.
1263    
1264     [mind-boggling, they provide TCP features with just TCP!!!11]
1265    
1266     http://web.syllable.org/news/2010-01-02-22-16-WebSockets-for-Cheyenne-web-server.html
1267     %
1268     From the "my window manager is boiling bullshit, so you have to fix your
1269     app for me" department:
1270    
1271     From: Evan LeCompte
1272    
1273     Myself and many other members of the Archlinux community (and anyone using
1274     Linux with a tiling window manager for that matter) humbly beg you (the
1275     developers) for a single-windowed version of GIMP.
1276     %
1277     "I will give you credit for having balls. In spite of your comments being
1278     a PR ploy based on biased views, you consistently imply that we're just
1279     indulging in a PR ploy based on biased views."
1280    
1281     http://tamino.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/old-news/
1282     %
1283     "We do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone ...
1284     Folks who want porn can buy an Android phone"
1285     – Steve Jobs[47]
1286    
1287     "We can’t adapt European magazines to the standards of Utah."
1288     – Mathias Müller von Blumencron (editor of Der Spiegel, warning that
1289     the news magazine would not alter its content for the App Store)
1290     %
1291     The naked truth of it is, I have no shirt.
1292     -- William Shakespeare, "Love's Labour's Lost"
1293     %
1294     Subject: [Gimp-user] Completely off every imaginable topic;)
1295     From: Patrick Horgan
1296     Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:13:38 -0800
1297     To: GIMP Users <gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU>
1298    
1299     Have you ever noticed that people's progress in using, supporting,
1300     writing bug reports for, and sometimes even developing for, writing
1301     documentation for, or translating for open source software is paralleled
1302     by their progress from top-posting to bottom posting to interlinear
1303     posting, to intelligent elision with interlinear posting? I see it on
1304     the gimp, and on other lists all the time.
1305    
1306     [...]
1307     %
1308 root 1.431 "Logic has made me hated among men"
1309     — Peter Abelard
1310     %
1311     A man said to the universe:
1312     "Sir I exist!"
1313     "However," replied the universe,
1314     "The fact has not created in me
1315 root 1.432 A sense of obligation."
1316     - Steven Crane
1317 root 1.431 %
1318     He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool; avoid him.
1319    
1320     He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a student; teach him.
1321    
1322     He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep; wake him.
1323    
1324     He who knows and knows that he knows is a wise man; follow him.
1325    
1326     – Sanskrit Saying
1327     %
1328     [anonymised discussion]
1329     AGW-Denialist: ... blabla ... Karl Hopper ... blabla ... falsification ...
1330     Scientist: Karl Hopper, eh? You're like the energizer bunny of wrong.
1331     %
1332     [http://www.opengl.org/registry/specs/NV/render_texture_rectangle.txt]
1333    
1334 root 1.432 Additions to the WGL Specification
1335 root 1.431
1336     First, close your eyes and pretend that a WGL specification actually
1337     existed. Maybe if we all concentrate hard enough, one will magically
1338     appear.
1339     %
1340     "All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust,
1341     sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others."
1342     - Douglas Adams
1343     %
1344     I like how whether a German is a "skinhead" or a "pussy", he's still considered a typical German.
1345     [http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=21884]
1346     %
1347 root 1.462 "A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will
1348     lose both, and deserve neither" -- Thomas Jefferson
1349 root 1.431 %
1350     "This is a further proof of the skill of astronomers
1351     in fitting a straight line to a circle!"
1352     - footnote in "OUR BEST FRIEND, THE COMA CLUSTER"
1353     http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Biviano/Biviano_contents.html
1354     %
1355     Am Grunde eines Problems sitzt immer ein Deutscher (Voltaire)
1356     %
1357     "I'm Prime Minister of Canada, I live here and I'm going to take a leak."
1358     - Lester Pearson in 1967, during a meeting between himself and
1359     President Lyndon Johnson, whose Secret Service detail had taken over
1360     Pearson's cottage retreat. At one point, a Johnson guard asked
1361     Pearson, "Who are you and where are you going?"
1362     %
1363     It's a known fact that not a single competent, experienced, skilled
1364     programmer in the world uses an IDE, nor has used one at any point in his
1365     or her career.
1366     [http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl/?node_id=636318]
1367     %
1368     It was stated that WIMPs and MACHOs were in the category of particle known
1369     as "Fabricated Ad hoc Inventions Repeatedly Invoked in Efforts to Defend
1370     Untenable Scientific Theories" (FAIRIE DUST).
1371     %
1372     I LOVE YOU
1373     ["authentication succeeded" protocol token used by cvs pserver]
1374     %
1375     General consensus seems to be 2.6.18 is where the manure intersected with
1376     the air impeller.
1377    
1378     Alan Cox
1379     %
1380     "I'm being elitist: awesome 3 is designed for power users
1381     with a minimum computer science background."
1382     %
1383     From: Eric Sosman
1384     Newsgroups: comp.std.c
1385     Subject: Re: about graphics
1386    
1387     prince wrote:
1388     > how to get command over graphics in c language?
1389    
1390     #include <stdio.h>
1391     int main(void) {
1392     puts("graphics\rcommand");
1393     return 0;
1394     }
1395     %
1396     I tried the Vista speech recognition by running the tutorial. I was
1397     amazed, it was awesome, recognised every word I said. Then I said the
1398     wrong word ... and it typed the right one. It was actually just
1399     detecting a sound and printing the expected word! -- pbhj on /.
1400     %
1401     [Bodo Moeller in http://groups.google.com/group/sci.crypt/msg/e79e65ed9077d0ba]
1402    
1403 root 1.471 While the 2^128 step search [takes] a very long time indeed,
1404 root 1.431 it still is a constant-time attack.
1405     %
1406     "Verleumdung mußt Du frech betreiben, es wird schon etwas hängenbleiben!"
1407     -- Karl Joseph Simrock
1408     %
1409     From: David Damerell
1410    
1411     Quoting Epic Campaigns <NoS...@NoSpamMe.com>:
1412     >Because C# is case sensitive, you can use the same name with different
1413     >caps to make it different.
1414    
1415     Alternatively you could set your nose hair on fire, which will also be
1416     painful but will take less typing.
1417     %
1418     Well, I think comparing Common Lisp to Scheme is prima facie evidence
1419     of ill will, even if Common Lisp wins. It is somewhat like a supposed
1420     compliment like "man, you are even smarter than George W. Bush".
1421    
1422     Erik Naggum in 3231422371368070@naggum.net
1423     %
1424     From: Hans-Jürgen Koch
1425    
1426     > The GPL places additional restrictions on code. It is therefore less
1427     > free than the BSD.
1428     >
1429     > Free code + restrictions = non-free code.
1430    
1431     The legal restriction that people must not enter your house uninvited
1432     by smashing the door adds to your freedom, don't you think so?
1433     %
1434     [C++ doesn't have the monopoly on hard-to-read diagnostics]
1435    
1436     State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘(void (*)(struct CoroSLF *, struct CV *,
1437     struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
1438     from incompatible pointer type
1439     State.xs:1927: warning: passing argument 3 of ‘(void (*)(struct CoroSLF *, struct CV *,
1440     struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
1441     makes pointer from integer without a cast
1442     State.xs:1927: error: too few arguments to function ‘(void (*)(struct CoroSLF *,
1443     struct CV *, struct SV **, int))gv->sv_u.svu_gp->gp_cv->sv_any->xcv_start_u.xcv_xsubany.any_ptr’
1444     %
1445     The idea that governments have rights is absurd. People have rights. The
1446     people have delegated certain tasks to government for their own
1447     convenience, and have accepted limits on some minimal subset of their
1448     rights so that society can best protect the rest. Note that "society" is
1449     not the same as "the government"; the government is just a mechanism used
1450     by society to accomplish certain specific things.
1451    
1452     [Chandon Seldon]
1453     %
1454     [Wikipedia]
1455     Differences between vi and Emacs
1456    
1457     The neutrality of this article is disputed.
1458     %
1459     [lost the reference]
1460     Remember that openssl is generally the upper
1461     bound on how difficult a library can be to use.
1462     %
1463     "Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it's pointless
1464     to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and
1465     elitist. No novices asking stupid questions."
1466     %
1467     [aol 4tw, messages are edited for readability]
1468    
1469     Subject: Re: fcrack help
1470     From: puezalb024@aol.com
1471     Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:27:46 -0500
1472     To: schmorp@schmorp.de
1473     X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
1474    
1475     well how about making the manual more accessable u fukin cumtwat. take
1476     ur shitty software n shove it homo. this program sux anyway. i wouldnt
1477     have to read a manual if you actually knew how to create a good piece of a
1478     working program you stupid fuck. n let me tell you thats a good way to get
1479     your name out there or your software, just tel the customer their wrong,
1480     yeah, thatll work. may you rot in piss, if your head was on fire i would
1481     piss on your leg.
1482    
1483     ?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
1484     maybe you should go to school and learn how to spell cuz who the fuck
1485     spells marK with a c? musta been a baby of a couple retards
1486    
1487     [then, a day later]
1488    
1489     Subject: Re: fcrack help
1490     From: puezalb024@aol.com
1491     Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:02:20 -0500
1492     To: schmorp@schmorp.de
1493     X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD
1494    
1495     just kno that your an idiot. dont be mad at me cuz your mommy n daddy cant
1496     aford to buy you aol, its not my problem. like anyone is going to read
1497     your stupid post anyway.. noone likes your program, how about you read the
1498     previous posts n then we'll see. so you just keep sitting in your basement
1499     all by your lonesome?wasting your time making useless software buddy, cuz
1500     quiet frankly i could give 2 shits. oh yeah if you plan on posting my
1501     response make sure you dont edit nothing and include ALL of my response u
1502     fucking nerd. why dont you put it on ur myspace as well, print up a couple
1503     copies n post em on your walls too buddy
1504    
1505    
1506     -----Original Message-----
1507     From: Marc Lehmann <schmorp@schmorp.de>
1508     To: puezalb024@aol.com
1509     Sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 2:17 am
1510     Subject: Re: fcrack help
1511    
1512    
1513    
1514     On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 07:27:46PM -0500, puezalb024@aol.com wrote:
1515 root 1.432 >
1516 root 1.431 > ?????????????????????????????????? -my regards-
1517    
1518     I was suspecting that aol users have, uhm, issues, but that's just hilarious :->
1519    
1520     Note that I will publish your response so other people can share the fun,
1521     I hope you don't object :)
1522     %
1523     >Dummerweise steht es auch in der Welt der Wunder Zeitschrift und die ist
1524     >dafür bekannt Fakten zu liefern.
1525    
1526     You made my day
1527     %
1528     [http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0810.1/2945.html]
1529    
1530     Names are important. In fact, naming is often _more_ important than the
1531     implementation is. And that means that the implementation should follow
1532     the naming, or the implementation is wrong.
1533    
1534     Linus
1535     %
1536     The ultimate hipocrisy is when people send you mails like this:
1537    
1538     From: Christian Walde <mithaldu@yahoo.de>
1539    
1540     I'll be utterly blunt now and ask this in advance: Are you being an asshole on purpose? If so, please just stop reading now and ignore a person trying t ...
1541    
1542     [lots of kilobyte-sized single-line paragraphs omitted]
1543    
1544     As too many people send me top- and fully-quoted
1545     emails, here is a guide on how to be considerate
1546     when sending emails to other people:
1547     http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
1548    
1549     [which states to not use more than, say, 72 columns per line]
1550    
1551     [mail quoted with permission btw.]
1552     %
1553     * k-god tries to think of the one mutt enhancement he'd like...
1554     <k-god> OK. Two. One: A backscratcher.
1555     <brendan> I believe muttng has one of those
1556     <k-god> Two: An implementation of the Internet Face Stab Protocol for MS Outlook lusers.
1557     <brendan> and I think outlook does that on its own :)
1558     %
1559     I had some issues though, functions like tmpfile() could only
1560     be used if run as administrator in windows.
1561    
1562     Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <n.mavrogiannopoulos@gmail.com>
1563     %
1564     [on italy]
1565    
1566     #24. fallingstones - 08-10 03:51
1567    
1568     @youruncledarnell: First, sorry for my very bad English. Yes, the
1569     majority of Italians are totally idiot, otherwise the Prime Minister
1570     wouldn't be Silvio Berlusconi, and of course also the justice is not
1571     only politicized, but also spectacularized.
1572    
1573     Not only. We've the only nation in all EU having a State-controlled
1574     corporation on copyright (SIAE). This corporation have also hated
1575     by a lot of artists, Italian and foreigner, 'cause the division of
1576     funds is "strange". If some of you can understand a lot of Italian, I
1577     suggest viewing an old service on Italian TV program "Report" talking
1578     on SIAE. You can read and viewing it on this url (sorry for long url)
1579    
1580     http://www.report.rai.it/R2_popup_articolofoglia/0,7246,243%255E90082,00.html
1581    
1582     Our legislation on copyright is basically on a law of 1943, approved
1583     during WWII by fascism and signed by the king. We're a Republic since
1584     1948 and our Costitution dislike fascism, but we've conserved all laws
1585     from fascism period.
1586    
1587     We don't admit officially other copyright licenses, like GPL or CC,
1588     cause "legally" every creation would be registered in SIAE, giving to
1589     them all rights (also rights of persecuting uses not authorized). An
1590     author of a song can't authorize itself a pianist for playing his
1591     song. If the song is registered in SIAE (and if isn't, isn't legally
1592     created, and the author isn't recognized) the pianist MUST pay the
1593     royalties, that eventually will be refunded to him by the author (if
1594     they are accorded) when, after a lot of MONTHS, he receive it from
1595     SIAE.
1596    
1597     We've also some laws against Freedom of Speech, for example our penal
1598     code include apology law, that pratically means you can't say why
1599     you consider wrong a penal law. People can ask (with a lot of signs)
1600     elections for deleting a law, but not for a penal law, or better can't
1601     explain why that law it's wrong and would be deleted. If you can't
1602     explain, you'll obviously will not found never other people signing
1603     your petition (and you need at least 500, and with a REAL signs, not
1604     electronic ones
1605    
1606     #25. fallingstones - 08-10 03:52
1607    
1608     Then, only parties have sufficient funds for these things, and we
1609     don't have a party sufficiently interested in freedom of speech
1610     (on internet and not). 'Cause limiting Freedom of Speech included
1611     CONTROL. We've the last western country in Freedom of Speech (at least
1612     based on Freedomhouse annual statistic), the only "Partly Free" in
1613     western country.
1614    
1615     I'm so sorry for being Italian, for our very stupid justice, for our
1616     very bad country laws and on all for our very stupid prime minister,
1617     but trust me, I can assure you we don't be ALL so stupid. In last
1618     elections, with an absurd law on elections, other parties have been
1619     deleted from parliament. Now we've only two main coalitions, the
1620     Berlusconi's one and the Veltroni's one. All of them have approved
1621     laws against freedom on internet, and generally against technology
1622     innovations. For these reason, all the last governments are fascists,
1623     also the governments of "center-left".
1624    
1625     Again, sorry you and all for my bad English. I hope you can understand.
1626    
1627     If I can, I suggest Brokep creating a guide for using TOR, a little
1628     great program (and it's free) for surfing the net anonymously and
1629     without any restriction.
1630    
1631     Brokep and all TPB staff, go forward forever. You're my personal myth,
1632     and the hope that good people using brain like you exists into the
1633     world.
1634    
1635     Long life to the Bay, forever.
1636     Sorry for the long message and sorry if I'm using TOR, I hope you understand.
1637     Thank you for reading.
1638     %
1639     > > don't even attempt to compare the nvidia driver support to ati's craptacular drivers.
1640     >
1641     > don't even attempt to post a useful comment
1642    
1643     How very ironic.
1644     %
1645     With or without religion, we would have good people doing good things and
1646     evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that
1647     takes religion."
1648    
1649     --Steve Weinberg
1650     %
1651     http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/en/why-not-use_java.xhtml
1652     %
1653     [Kurt Roecks on his change that had totally broken openssl for two years in debian]
1654     [Folks, fix valgrind bugs in your code, not in other people's code,]
1655     [if you don't understand how valgrind works]
1656    
1657     "I've ran all the regression test thru valgrind, using the memset()
1658     solves most of those. As far as I know, commenting out those 2 calls
1659     solved all the warnings valgrind reported."
1660     %
1661     [From: "H.Merijn Brand"]
1662     The more I (have to) work with java, the more I am convinced perl is
1663     the right tool for me.
1664     %
1665     [deliantra]
1666     02:58:42 [Kyle] my summoned pets ate my rod of show invisible
1667     %
1668     I pretend to work because the Soviet government pretends to pay me.
1669     %
1670     cerebro ~# fuser -km /wd_old
1671     /wd_old: 5270c 12266c 12274c 12275
1672     Suddenly the Dungeon collapses!! - You die...
1673     %
1674     From the CFA633 datasheet:
1675    
1676     * Do not eat the LCD panel.
1677     %
1678     >> Well, in German there is no "sports" but just "Sport".
1679     >> So by that little S at the end of sports, you could tell it's English.
1680    
1681     It's the same in English as it is in German; the little S at the end
1682     actually tells you it's *American*.
1683     %
1684     [better do not hire this programmer]
1685     From: Tony Jackson <tj76351@gmail.com>
1686     Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
1687     Subject: Avoiding dereference of NULL pointer
1688    
1689     Hi
1690    
1691     I'm quite new to C programming - I have more of a Java background: maybe
1692     someone here can advise me.
1693    
1694     I'm nearly finishing a little program but it has some hard-to-find bugs
1695     that basically lead to a couple pointers sometimes being NULL at the
1696     wrong time. As it stands the program just bombs out when it tries to
1697     dereference the NULL, which obviously isn't good (especially when it
1698     happens with the customer looking on!!).
1699    
1700     I don't think there's any serious problem to worry about, and what I'd
1701     like to do is be able to ignore the dereference attempt and just carry
1702     on - probably the next time round the loop the pointer will be OK. In
1703     Java, I'd put a try block around the main loop, and if we catch an
1704     exception then just jump back to the start of the main loop. What's the
1705     corresponding thing in C?
1706    
1707     Thanks!
1708     %
1709     [from mozilla 1.7b sources]
1710    
1711     // See bug 53763.
1712     nsCOMPtr<nsIViewManager> kungFuDeathGrip;
1713     nsIPresShell *shell = doc->GetShellAt(0);
1714     if (shell) {
1715     kungFuDeathGrip = shell->GetViewManager();
1716     %
1717     [the beginning, and most common codepath, of getpid() on my linux 2.6
1718     amd64 box in a program using glibc 2.3's pthreads. thats fucking cool]
1719    
1720     0x000000300049af30 <getpid+0>: mov %fs:0x94,%edx
1721     0x000000300049af38 <getpid+8>: cmp $0x0,%edx
1722     0x000000300049af3b <getpid+11>: mov %edx,%eax
1723     0x000000300049af3d <getpid+13>: jle 0x300049af41 <getpid+17>
1724     0x000000300049af3f <getpid+15>: repz retq
1725     %
1726     (A lot of this OPM stuff seems to come straight from the twilight
1727     zone. It's normal to have error codes indicating that there was a disk
1728     error or that a network packet got garbled, but I'm sure Windows Vista
1729     must be the first OS in history to have error codes for things like
1730 root 1.462 "display quality too high").
1731 root 1.431
1732     [http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html]
1733     %
1734     Subject: Re: The right answer of -1^2 is?
1735    
1736 root 1.432 > I don't think there's a real Right Way here other than reintroducing a
1737 root 1.431 > mechanism for explicitly signaling the grouping. Maybe parentheses? ;)
1738    
1739     Nah. Use whitespace, like Fortress. Then you can distinguish between
1740    
1741     x / y * z
1742    
1743     and
1744    
1745     x / y * z
1746    
1747     That'll *never* cause problems, right? :)
1748    
1749     (To be fair, I like Fortress. However, it did have some, er, unique
1750     design decisions.)
1751     %
1752     endergt:
1753     > snoofle:
1754     > > Every system (*nix, PC's, etc.) has a hex
1755     > > editor with a string-search capability - really not that hard if
1756     > > you understand what you are doing...
1757     >
1758 root 1.432 > Out of curiosity - what is the hex editor on a default Windows installation?
1759 root 1.431
1760 root 1.432 debug
1761 root 1.431 %
1762     C# is for people who want to have one arm strapped behind their back because it reduces the probability of making a mistake by 50%.
1763    
1764     Java is for people who prefer to have the arm chopped off.
1765     %
1766     Steve Loughran: "The EU interop laws often come up in discussion, and they
1767     are interesting. They say that you are allowed to do reverse engineering
1768     for hardware interop. Not software: hardware."
1769    
1770     Not sure what you're talking about, but Council Directive 91/250/EEC seems
1771     pretty clear to me (or as clear as legal texts can be to me...): "Article
1772     6 Decompilation
1773    
1774     1. The authorization of the rightholder shall not be required where
1775     reproduction of the code and translation of its form within the meaning
1776     of Article 4 (a) and (b) are indispensable to obtain the information
1777     necessary to achieve the interoperability of an independently created
1778     computer program with other programs, provided that the following
1779     conditions are met: [...]"
1780     %
1781     http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/
1782     %
1783     Why Linux Sux ?
1784    
1785     Easy .
1786     Security : most hackable operating systems are unix based .
1787     Portability : try installing unix on cutting edge hardware . bad luck it won`t work . install windows (the oldest) on any ... it will .
1788     Help : try get help for linux . after exploring tons of sites and forums the help you got is useless . for windows you just call them .
1789     Applications : we all know there are more and more on windows . linux will probably never get so many .
1790     GUI : we know how customisable is the windows gui . and how stable .
1791     Gaming : ...anyone got an ideea of a linux game that is really cool ?
1792     Cost : install linux as server ... it is free no ? but you have to pay a sysadmin . or learn a lot . buy a lot of books . using windows ... just click next . if you are not dumb you might make it secure too (reading help does HELP! ) .
1793     Virus : due to the fact that windows is so flexible it is logcal to have viruses . afterall the human body has more than a monkeys one .
1794     Stability : reboot windows 100 times by using the case button . perhaps a scandisk will appear . reboot linux ... ups kernel panic .
1795    
1796     You don`t have money for OS ? Work ! Oh you hate miscrosoft and bill gates
1797     no ? Sure thing ... stupid and lazy people generally hate smart and hard
1798     working ones . Screw linux users .
1799     %
1800     19:26:03 <schmorp> did you know the us is officially metric? for over 100 years, too?
1801     19:26:27 -cfbot:#cf- [moerderer] it is also officially a democracy, go figure
1802     19:26:34 <schmorp> good point :)
1803     %
1804     > The Dell 30"...
1805    
1806     It is big, but some of the reviews have not been so glowing, or rather,
1807     the glowing has been highly asymmetric.
1808     %
1809 root 1.432 Re: USA- an underdeveloped country with potentials
1810 root 1.431
1811     > > u don´t use your wealth with responsibility, you only think about yourself and shrug your shoulders with comments like, "we all have the same chance", I´m a selfmade man", "everyone has to take care of themselves".
1812 root 1.432 >
1813 root 1.431 > yeah, that's why your little brothers decided to save the world - including your grandparents' sorry asses - from hitler, because we think only of ourselves!
1814 root 1.432 >
1815 root 1.431 > your welcome, pinhead!
1816 root 1.432
1817 root 1.431 Even though I´m tired of hearing "we saved your a *beep* during ww2 I will respond.
1818    
1819     1. Did you? Or did your great grandfathers? Maybe they were better?
1820     2. You came into the war very late, and that was strictly for buisness reasons. You need countries to trade with. The true hero in WW2 was actually Russia doing alot more then US ever did, not saying that I support Russia today.
1821     3. One good thing in the past doesn´t make up for bad things in your society today.
1822 root 1.432 4. With those retorics you will never learn anything from your own mistakes since you always can go back and talk about your effort 100 years ago.
1823 root 1.431 %
1824     [discussion about some changes in windows longhorn]
1825     Let's hope that some day Microsoft will catch up to what the
1826     public-domain tz code was doing back in 1986. (Good work, Arthur!)
1827     %
1828     ntfs ist dennoch für datei und ordnersicherheit zuständig.
1829    
1830     Zum Beispiel unter Linux wenn man auf fat32 festplatten zugreifen will ist
1831     es kein problem, wenn man aber die festplatte auf ntfs convertiert hat,
1832     dann funktioniert dass nicht mehr der zugriff auf die festplatte.
1833    
1834     Denn das ist die sicherheit vor zugriffen auf daten von anderen usern und
1835     anderen betriebssystemen.
1836    
1837     Habe fat32 festplatte gehabt(zugriff von linux möglich) dann habe ich es
1838     auf ntfs umconvertiert und dann ging es nicht mehr.
1839    
1840     habe nochmal in meinen unterlagen nachgeschlagen, haben erst ca. vor 3
1841     Wochen die Unterlagen vom Lehrer bekommen und ich sag nochmal, zittiere
1842     Lehrer: Fat32 sollte man heutzutage nicht mehr verwenden außer man hat
1843     Windows 98 und man möchte Dualbootkonfiguration erzielen. NTFS ist
1844     einfach für bessere Sicherheit zuständig.
1845    
1846     Frage?
1847     Hast du Windows und Linux beides auf deinem Laptop oder Standpc?
1848     Wenn ja hattest du vorher eine fat32 festplatte?
1849     Hast du sie dann auf ntfs umconvertiert?
1850    
1851     Freundlichen Grüße von Vista-Ultimate-Besitzer
1852     %
1853     "In this time of war against Osama bin Laden and the oppressive
1854     Taliban regime, we are thankful that OUR leader isn't the spoiled son
1855     of a powerful politician from a wealthy oil family who is supported by
1856     religious fundamentalists, operates through clandestine organizations,
1857     has no respect for the democratic electoral process, bombs innocents,
1858     and uses war to deny people their civil liberties." --The Boondocks
1859     %
1860     19:35:41 <elmex> dieses 'restore session' is soo sinnlos bei firefox
1861     19:35:54 <elmex> wenn die webseite die ihn gecrasht hat immer weieder crasht
1862     19:36:18 <schmorp> tja, bei mir restored er trotz einstellung nie etwas
1863     19:36:24 <schmorp> fragt sich wer mehr glück hat
1864     %
1865     What has happened is that Dave Winer got off a rant against JSON as
1866     reinventing XML's (and more specifically XML-RPC's) wheel:
1867    
1868     God bless the re-inventers
1869    
1870     Gotta love em, because there's no way they're going to stop breaking
1871     what works, and fixing what don't need no fixing
1872    
1873 root 1.432 Crockford gets off a very pithy response:
1874 root 1.431
1875     The good thing about reinventing the wheel is that you can get a round
1876     one.
1877     %
1878     [rfc2665]
1879     The dot3StatsEtherChipSet object has now been deprecated.
1880     Implementation feedback indicates that this object is much more
1881     useful in theory than in practice.
1882     %
1883     15:40:51 <elmex> son buero is faszinierend
1884 root 1.432 15:41:08 <elmex> staendig hoerste leute seuftzen und jammern, und in 90% der faelle hats
1885 root 1.431 mit windows zu tun
1886     15:41:15 <elmex> oder mit software die dort laeuft
1887     15:41:37 <elmex> irgendwem is heut mrogen die mail inbox verloren gegangen
1888     15:41:47 <elmex> und hat sie dann wiedergefunden
1889     15:41:49 <elmex> irgendwie
1890     15:41:50 <elmex> irgendwo
1891 root 1.432 15:42:07 <elmex> achja, und backups gabs auch keine mehr, seit sich die passwoerter
1892 root 1.431 geaendert haben :->
1893     15:42:19 <elmex> (also seit wenigen tagen)
1894 root 1.432 15:47:10 <elmex> es ist auch erstaunlich wie wenig arbeit eigentlich so erledigt wird nach
1895 root 1.431 15:30
1896     15:47:48 <elmex> (mit ausnahmen)
1897     15:48:13 <elmex> aber 50-80% der zeit wird mit kommunikation verbracht
1898     %
1899     [http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=895394]
1900     The SparcStation2 technical docs recommend catting your /vmunix file to /dev/audio as a speaker test.
1901     If you go nearly deaf from the painful noise, then your speaker works.
1902     %
1903     http://www.azillionmonkeys.com/qed/optimize.html
1904    
1905     Strictly for beginners
1906    
1907     Techniques you might not be aware of if you have not been programming for the past 15 years of your life:
1908     [...]
1909     %
1910     http://tmbo.org/offensive/images/picpile/Welcome%20to%20paradise%21.jpg
1911     %
1912     17:34:47 <elmex> hab gehoert solaris soll GPL werden, oder zumindest denkt sun drueber nach :->:
1913     17:34:53 <schmorp> ja klar
1914     17:34:57 <schmorp> alles was lebenszeitende hat
1915     17:34:58 <schmorp> wird gpl
1916     17:35:02 <schmorp> weil sie denken, dann wirds übelreben
1917     17:35:05 <schmorp> bei mozilla hats auch gwekappt
1918     17:35:08 <elmex> hehe
1919     17:35:13 <schmorp> und die brrowserentwicklung unter linux locker ein jahr verzögert
1920     17:35:46 <elmex> dann kann joerd schilling ja endlich sein lieblings system entwickeln :-
1921     17:35:48 <elmex> :->
1922     17:35:58 <schmorp> macht er doch schon die ganze zeit
1923     17:36:02 <schmorp> chillingos, bzw.
1924     17:36:18 <elmex> uh
1925     17:36:53 <schmorp> ich finds nicht mehr
1926     17:36:57 <schmorp> er arbeitet jedenfalls dran
1927     17:38:27 <schmorp> SchilliX
1928     17:38:29 <schmorp> genau!
1929     17:38:30 <schmorp> :)
1930     17:38:33 <elmex> sueees
1931     17:38:34 <schmorp> http://developer.berlios.de/projects/schillix/
1932     17:39:59 <zaphod> omg das ist nicht wahr
1933     17:40:20 <schmorp> ihr kennt die geheimnisse und wunder unserer welt nicht
1934     17:40:32 <zaphod> das kann bestimmt CDs brennen wie nix anderes
1935     17:40:42 <elmex> lol
1936     17:41:06 <schmorp> :)
1937     %
1938     [A Gentoo User]
1939     First FreeBSD is UNIX. Yes FreeBSD runs beter then all other Linux
1940     distro’s but FreeBSD lacks any graphical features(stolen linux features
1941     doesn’t count) so it is only ment for guys with an old grey beards.
1942     [...] That’s why for geeks/nerds/professionals (like me) bsd exists [...]
1943     Gentoo is ment for professionals that need a system for a really exact
1944     environment and think LFS is to much work.
1945     [http://www.playingwithwire.com/2007/01/why-gentoo-shouldnt-be-on-your-server/]
1946     %
1947     20:08 <schmorp> my guess is, purely practically
1948     20:08 <schmorp> if copyright/patent law continues to go away from the original reasons
1949     20:08 <schmorp> that they were created for
1950     20:08 <schmorp> you will at one point have a civil war
1951     20:08 <schmorp> right now, you already have large-scale civil disobedience
1952 root 1.432 20:10 <scortch> i very much hope that it can be turned around before that happens. not the
1953     least reason is, in a Blade Runner dystopia, there isnt a lot that individuals
1954 root 1.431 can do
1955     20:11 <scortch> i.e. militarily
1956     20:11 <scortch> ah wait.
1957     20:12 <scortch> we are forgetting that low technology solutions are always around
1958     20:12 <schmorp> terrorism :)
1959     20:12 <schmorp> now i finally see the whole plot
1960     20:13 <scortch> that's quite a story
1961     %
1962     23:49 <ruskie> in my experience apart from a few exceptions all gentoo people are rude
1963 root 1.432 23:58 <Err> it seems logical that there is a strong correlation
1964     between (people who like to waste their time, and their computer's
1965     processing time, rebuilding things that have been built a million
1966 root 1.431 times before) and (idiots)
1967     23:58 <Err> (parenthesized for easy parsing ;-) )
1968 root 1.432 23:59 <Err> there are certainly exceptions to every rule - but in
1969     general, gentoo users think that they're getting magical properties
1970 root 1.431 out of rebuilding the same code everybody else builds
1971     %
1972     [http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/]
1973     Bruce Schneier decrypted the Bible. The plaintext read, "Bruce Schneier".
1974     %
1975     [http://www.mail-archive.com/cygwin-patches@cygwin.com/msg03644.html]
1976    
1977     Internet Explorer: KB329781 "HTTP File Upload Operation Takes a Long Time
1978     to Complete". The printing subsystem: KB816627 "TCP/IP port printing may
1979     be slow in Windows 2000"
1980    
1981     In the first KB microsoft amusingly states in relation to the fact that
1982     upload speed is limited to 80kbps no matter what the network bandwidth
1983     that "this behaviour is by design". The mind boggles...
1984     %
1985     [so much for type-safety]
1986     List<Integer> lst = new ArrayList<Integer>;
1987     lst.add(null);
1988     int x = 1 + lst.get(0);
1989     %
1990     [just for reference]
1991     Wenn man weiss, dass man in seinem Leben nicht mehr Glücklich werden
1992     kann, und sich von Tag zu Tag die Gründe dafür häufen, dann bleibt
1993     einem nichts anderes übrig als aus diesem Leben zu verschwinden. Und
1994     dafür habe ich mich entschieden. Es gibt vielleicht Leute die hätten
1995     weiter gemacht, hätten sich gedacht "das wird schon", aber das wird
1996     es nicht.
1997    
1998     Man hat mir gesagt ich muss zur Schule gehen, um für mein leben zu
1999     lernen, um später ein schönes Leben führen zu können. Aber was bringt
2000     einem das dickste Auto, das grösste Haus, die schönste Frau, wenn es
2001     letztendlich sowieso für’n Arsch ist. Wenn deine Frau beginnt dich zu
2002     hassen, wenn dein Auto Benzin verbraucht das du nicht zahlen kannst, und
2003     wenn du niemanden hast der dich in deinem scheiss Haus besuchen kommt!
2004    
2005     Das einzigste was ich intensiv in der Schule beigebracht bekommen habe
2006     war, das ich ein Verlierer bin. Für die ersten jahre an der GSS stimmt
2007     das sogar, ich war der Konsumgeilheit verfallen, habe danach gestrebt
2008     Freunde zu bekommen, Menschen die dich nicht als Person, sondern als
2009     Statussymbol sehen. Aber dann bin ich aufgewacht! Ich erkannte das die
2010     Welt wie sie mir erschien nicht existiert, das sie eine Illusion war,
2011     die hauptsächlich von den Medien erzeugt wurde. Ich merkte mehr und
2012     mehr in was für einer Welt ich mich befand. Eine Welt in der Geld alles
2013     regiert, selbst in der Schule ging es nur darum. Man musste das neuste
2014     Handy haben, die neusten Klamotten, und die richtigen "Freunde". hat
2015     man eines davon nicht ist man es nicht wert beachtet zu werden. Und diese
2016     Menschen nennt man Jocks. Jocks sind alle, die meinen aufgrund von teuren
2017     Klamotten oder schönen Mädchen an der Seite über anderen zu stehen. Ich
2018     verabscheue diese Menschen, nein, ich verabscheue Menschen.
2019    
2020     Ich habe in den 18 Jahren meines Lebens erfahren müssen, das man nur
2021     Glücklich werden kann, wenn man sich der Masse fügt, der Gesellschaft
2022     anpasst. Aber das konnte und wollte ich nicht. Ich bin frei! Niemand darf
2023     in mein Leben eingreifen, und tut er es doch hat er die Konsequenzen zu
2024     tragen! Kein Politiker hat das Recht Gesetze zu erlassen, die mir Dinge
2025     verbieten, Kein Bulle hat das Recht mir meine Waffe wegzunehmen, schon gar
2026     nicht während er seine am Gürtel trägt.
2027    
2028     Wozu das alles? Wozu soll ich arbeiten? Damit ich mich kaputtmaloche um
2029     mit 65 in den Ruhestand zugehen und 5 Jahre später abzukratzen? Warum
2030     soll ich mich noch anstrengen irgendetwas zu erreichen, wenn es
2031     letztendlich sowieso für'n Arsch ist weil ich früher oder später
2032     krepiere? Ich kann ein Haus bauen, Kinder bekommen und was weiss ich
2033     nicht alles. Aber wozu? Das Haus wird irgendwann abgerissen, und die
2034     Kinder sterben auch mal. Was hat denn das Leben bitte für einen
2035     Sinn? Keinen! Also muss man seinem Leben einen Sinn geben, und das
2036     mache ich nicht indem ich einem überbezahlten Chef im Arsch rumkrieche
2037     oder mich von Faschisten verarschen lasse die mir erzählen wollen wir
2038     leben in einer Volksherrschaft. Nein, es gibt für mich jetzt noch eine
2039     Möglichkeit meinem Leben einen Sinn zu geben, und die werde ich nicht wie
2040     alle anderen zuvor verschwenden! Vielleicht hätte mein Leben komplett
2041     anders verlaufen können. Aber die Gesellschaft hat nunmal keinen Platz
2042     für Individualisten. Ich meine richtige Individualisten, Leute die
2043     slebst denken, und nicht solche 'Ich trage ein Nietenarmband und bin
2044     alternativ' Idioten!
2045    
2046     Ihr habt diese Schlacht begonnen, nicht ich. Meine Handlungen sind ein
2047     Resultat eurer Welt, eine Welt die mich nicht sein lassen will wie ich
2048     bin. Ihr habt euch über mich lustig gemacht, dasselbe habe ich nun mit
2049     euch getan, ich hatte nur einen ganz anderen Humor! Von 1994 bis 2003/2004
2050     war es auch mein Bestreben, Freunde zu haben, Spass zu haben. Als ich
2051     dann 1998 auf die GSS kam, fing es an mit den Statussymbolen, Kleidung,
2052     Freunde, Handy usw.. Dann bin ich wach geworden. Mir wurde bewusst das
2053     ich mein Leben lang der Dumme für andere war, und man sich über mich
2054     lustig machte. Und ich habe mir Rache geschworen! Diese Rache wird so
2055     brutal und rücksichtslos ausgeführt werden, dass euch das Blut in den
2056     Adern gefriert. Bevor ich gehe, werde ich euch einen Denkzettel verpassen,
2057     damit mich nie wieder ein Mensch vergisst! Ich will das ihr erkennt, das
2058     niemand das Recht hat unter einem faschistischen Deckmantel aus Gesetz und
2059     Religion in fremdes Leben einzugreifen!
2060    
2061     Ich will das sich mein Gesicht in eure Köpfe einbrennt! Ich will
2062     nicht länger davon laufen! Ich will meinen Teil zur Revolution der
2063     Ausgestossenen beitragen!
2064    
2065     Ich will R A C H E !
2066    
2067     Ich habe darüber nachgedacht, dass die meisten der Schüler die mich
2068     gedemütigt haben schon von der GSS abgegangen sind. Dazu habe ich zwei
2069     Dinge zu sagen:
2070    
2071     1. Ich ging nicht nur in eine klasse, nein, ich ging auf die ganze Schule.
2072    
2073     Die Menschen die sich auf der Schule befinden, sind in keinem Falle
2074     unschuldig! Niemand ist das! In deren Köpfen läuft das selbe Programm
2075     welches auch bei den früheren Jahrgängen lief! Ich bin der Virus der
2076     diese Programme zerstören will, es ist völlig irrelewand wo ich da
2077     anfange.
2078    
2079     2. Ein Grossteil meiner Rache wird sich auf das Lehrpersonal richten,
2080     denn das sind Menschen die gegen meinen Willen in mein Leben eingegriffen
2081     haben, und geholfen haben mich dahin zu stellen, wo ich jetzt stehe; Auf
2082     dem Schlachtfeld! Diese Lehrer befinden sich so gut wie alle noch auf
2083     dieser verdammten schule!
2084    
2085     Das Leben wie es heute täglich stattfindet ist wohl das armseeligste was
2086     die Welt zu bieten hat!
2087    
2088     S.A.A.R.T. - Schule, Ausbildung, Arbeit, Rente, Tod
2089    
2090     Das ist der Lebenslauf eines "normalen" Menschen heutzutage. Aber
2091     was ist eigentlich normal? Als normal wird das bezeichnet, was von der
2092     Gesellschaft erwartet wird. Somit werden heutzutage Punks, Penner,
2093     Mörder, Gothics, Schwule usw. als unnormal bezeichnet, weil sie den
2094     allgemeinen Vorstellungen der Gesellschaft nicht gerecht werden, können
2095     oder wollen. Ich scheiss auf euch! Jeder hat frei zu sein! Gebt jedem
2096     eine Waffe und die Probleme unter den Menschen lösen sich ohne jedliche
2097     Einmischung Dritter. Wenn jemand stirbt, dann ist er halt tot. Und? Der
2098     Tod gehört zum Leben! Kommen die Angehörigen mit dem Verlust nicht klar,
2099     können sie Selbstmord begehen, niemand hindert sie daran!
2100    
2101     S.A.A.R.T. beginnt mit dem 6. Lebensjahr hier in Deutschland, mit der
2102     Einschulung.
2103    
2104     Das Kind begibt sich auf seine perönliche Sozialisationsstrecke, und
2105     wird in den darauffolgenden Jahren gezwungen sich der Allgemeinheit, der
2106     Mehrheit anzupassen. Lehnt es dies ab, schalten sich Lehrer, Eltern,
2107     und nicht zuletzt die Polizei ein. Schulpflicht ist die Schönrede von
2108     Schulzwang, denn man wird ja gezwungen zur Schule zu gehen. Wer gezwungen
2109     wird, verliert ein Stück seiner Freiheit. Man wird gezwungen Steuern zu
2110     zahlen, man wird gezwungen Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungen einzuhalten, man
2111     wird gezwungen dies zu tun, man wird gewzungen das zu tun. Ergo: Keine
2112     Freiheit! Und sowas nennt man dann Volksherrschaft. Wenn das Volk hier
2113     herrschen würde, hiesse es Anarchie!
2114    
2115     WERDET ENDLICH WACH - GEHT AUF DIE STRASSE - DAS HAT IN DEUTSCHLAND
2116     SCHONMAL FUNKTIONIERT!
2117    
2118     Nach meiner Tat werden wieder irgendwelche fetten Politiker dumme
2119     Sprüche klopfen wie "Wir halten nun alle zusammen" oder "Wir
2120     müssen gemeinsam versuchen dies durchzustehen". Doch das machen
2121     sie nur um Aufmerksmakeit zu bekommen, um sich selbst als die Lösung
2122     zu präsentieren. Auf der GSS war es genauso... niemals lässt
2123     sich dieses fette Stück Scheisse von Rektorin blicken, aber wenn
2124     Theater-aufführungen sind, dann steht sie als erste mit einem breiten
2125     Grinsen auf der Bühne und präsentiert sich der Masse!
2126    
2127     Nazis, HipHoper, Türken, Staat, Staatsdiener, Gläubige... einfach alle
2128     sind zum kotzen und müssen vernichtet werden! (Den begriff "Türken"
2129     benutze ich für alle HipHopMuchels und Kleingangster; Sie kommen nach
2130     Deutschland weil die Bedingungen bei ihnen zu hause zu schlecht sind,
2131     weil Krieg ist... und dann kommen Sie nach Deutschland, dem Sozialamt der
2132     Welt, und lassne hier die Sau raus. Sie sollten alle vergast werden! Keine
2133     Juden, keine Neger, keine Holländer, aber Muchels! ICH BIN KEIN SCHEISS
2134     NAZI) Ich hasse euch und eure Art! Ihr müsst alle sterben!
2135    
2136     Seit meinem 6. Lebensjahr wurde ich von euch allen verarscht! Nun müsst
2137     ihr dafür bezahlen!
2138    
2139     Weil ich weiss das die Fascholizei meine Videos, Schulhefte, Tagebücher,
2140     einfach alles, nicht veröffentlichen will, habe ich das selbst in die
2141     Hand genommen.
2142    
2143     Als letztes möchte ich den Menschen die mir was bedeuten, oder die jemals
2144     gut zu mir waren, danken, und mich für all dies Entschuldigen!
2145    
2146     Ich bin weg...
2147     %
2148     01:14 <scortch> its an NP hard for computers
2149     01:14 <elmex> no, it's NP hard for anyone
2150     %
2151 root 1.432 19:18 <elmex> schmorp: eben anner kasse stand jemadn hinter mir und faselte mit seinen
2152     kumpels zum thema bill gates: "... er ist ja mein vorbild, nicht jetzt
2153     wegen dem geld, sondern wegen dem charakterlichen und so ... der hat ja
2154     die haelfte seines vermoegens gespendet.... und ne jacht hat der auch...
2155 root 1.431 abe was fuer eine... voll fettes schiff...'
2156     19:19 <schmorp> *rofl*
2157     19:19 <schmorp> aber nicht wegem dme geld
2158     19:19 <elmex> der studiert glaub ich informatik :)
2159     19:19 <elmex> das is die neue generation
2160     19:19 <elmex> 'generation gates'
2161     19:19 <schmorp> die frage schiene mcirosoft oder schiene java erübrigt sich
2162     %
2163     http://www.bissantz.de/pub/Luegen_mit_Statistiken.pdf
2164     %
2165     [http://use.perl.org/~luqui/journal/]
2166     [The reason I left Perl 6]
2167    
2168     The virtue of social art was extinguished when the solutions that I had
2169     worked for weeks on and I considered truly beautiful lost to syntax
2170     bloat and "DWIM tables". It bascially came down to the rest of the team
2171     considering Perl much more pragmatically than I did, which may end up
2172     better for the end result anyway—it is hard to tell.
2173     %
2174     http://www.ta-sa.org/files/sc/perl6_timeline_updated.png
2175     %
2176     00:20 <schmorp> Mikachu: xjdic lists ぶっかける as to dash (slosh) water (or other liquid)onapersonorinaperson'sface
2177     00:21 <Mikachu> yeah, that made me laugh a bit
2178     00:21 <Mikachu> "or other liquid, know what i mean, nudge nudge"
2179     %
2180     [very funny read]
2181     Hack-a-Bike
2182     USK@vZ8crASNqmw9APiGDtTxV0YvspklNnOTmQin0ZsPLdk,bnUaihNj6Ww8CFvBQo4UwH0pYiS0hOyeKIxvO0tZdJk,AQABAAE/hack-a-bike/1/index_de.html
2183     %
2184     Now that habeas corpus and other basic rights, including the right not to
2185     be tortured while interrogated, have now been deemed unnecessary, more
2186     Americans than ever have been thinking of getting out the door while they
2187     still can.
2188    
2189     http://www.boingboing.net/2006/10/23/getting_out_your_gui.html
2190     %
2191 root 1.432 23:52 <elmex> Zaehlen sie die wichtigsten Berufsfelder der IT-Branche auf:
2192     Java-code-affe, Bussiness-scheisse-laber-affe, Windows-admin,
2193 root 1.431 Windows-user, echter Admin und echter Programmierer.
2194     %
2195     [without words]
2196     http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/1030/104_print.html
2197     %
2198     [http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030217/cockburn]
2199     We're in the twilit world of the "thought crime." Have a photo of a kid in
2200     a bath on your hard drive, and the prosecutor says you were looking at it
2201     with lust in your heart, and that is tantamount to sexually molesting an
2202     actual kid in an actual bath.
2203     %
2204     Don't put stock in the Constitution, anymore. It IS just a piece of paper,
2205     today (actually, since Oct 17th). The Military Commissions Act of 2006
2206     makes the Constitution null and void. You (regardless of your citizenship)
2207     may be held with no charges, for no reason, for an indefinite time, with
2208     absolutely no judicial oversight. It is completely legal for the
2209     government to pick you up and for you to disappear with no one ever knowing
2210     what happened to you.
2211     %
2212 root 1.472 --
2213 root 1.431 Markus Schulz
2214    
2215     A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion
2216     Q: Why is top posting bad?
2217     %
2218     On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 02:05:19AM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
2219 root 1.432 > 1. It's not that I don't want to, but I _can't_ implement kprobes and not
2220     > due to lack of skills, but lack of resources. (There is a subtle but
2221 root 1.431 > important difference.)
2222    
2223     Um, given the amount of time you've spent trying to pursuade us why
2224     you can't implement kprobes for m68k, perhaps you would have
2225     implemented it already if you had buckled down and started coding
2226     instead of flaming about why everyone else should bend over backwards
2227     just because you don't have time for your arch? :-)
2228    
2229     - Ted
2230     %
2231     [http://richarddawkins.net/mainPage.php?bodyPage=article_body.php&id=183]
2232     "I want to see young people who are as committed to the cause of Jesus
2233     Christ as the young people are to the cause of Islam. I want to see them
2234     as radically laying down their lives for the gospel as they are over in
2235     Pakistan and Israel and Palestine and all those different places... Excuse
2236     me, but we have the truth!"
2237     %
2238     [Meijin Title Game #3, Takao Shinji vs. Cho U]
2239     (22) archimed [18k?]: actually, what are considered to be their respective strengths?
2240     (22) zephi [ 7k+]: takao's strength is kickin cho u's butt
2241     (22) zephi [ 7k+]: cho u's a big fighter
2242     %
2243     [nethack extinctionist faq]
2244     The first "extinctionist" ascension on r.g.r.n. (at least from what I can
2245     tell) seems to have been by Matthew Bourland in 2000, who although he
2246     didn't actually kill everything, certainly genocided all (at the time) 256
2247     monster types that were genocidable. Then, after that he extincted all
2248     other randomly generated monsters. On the other hand, having 120 kills
2249     in every category is perhaps more noteworthy (or foolhardy?) than simply
2250     genociding every monster.
2251    
2252     I'd recommend a dose of both. Kill them until they're dead and then
2253     genocide them for good measure!
2254     %%
2255     [nethack instadeath faq]
2256    
2257     * eating Death, Famine, Pestilence, Medusa, or green slime corpses
2258    
2259     Well let's face it, this is just plain stupid. So don't do it!
2260     %
2261     17:57 <zaphod> Murch: Stroemungslehre ist geil
2262     17:57 <Murch> zaphod: hm?
2263 root 1.432 17:57 <zaphod> Murch: "Diese Gleichungen sind, zumindest aus der Sicht eines
2264 root 1.431 Ingenieurs, als exakt anzusehen."
2265     17:58 <Murch> lol
2266     %
2267     22:51 -cfbot:#cf- [Wrathmagic] oh i love killing pirates yes i do i love stabbing them through and through
2268     %
2269     [Brazil and Bush’s War on Terror]
2270     http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/blumen3.html
2271     %
2272     http://trac.syr.edu/tracreports/terrorism/169/
2273     %
2274     http://web3.0log.org/2006/09/01/new-secure-browser-browzar-is-fake-and-full-of-adware/
2275    
2276     There was time when badware developers tried to install ad pages as homepage
2277     or searchpage in user’s IE by any possible means. Nowadays users install
2278     adware voluntarily and write news about it. True web2.0 style!
2279     %
2280     http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/05/universal_time_zone.html
2281    
2282     At the United Nations today President George W. Bush
2283     announced a proposal to unify all the world's time zones
2284     into a single Universal Time Zone (UTZ), formerly known as
2285     the Eastern Time Zone.
2286     [...]
2287     Britain immediately supported the US plan. "If it means
2288     sleeping in broad daylight then we'll stick with our
2289     allies," said Tony Blair, "Of course there's never broad
2290     daylight in the UK, so it's not much of an issue."
2291     %
2292     Wow, and this in security-relevant code... (taken from libc's ld.so)
2293    
2294     _dl_profile_output
2295     = &"/var/tmp\0/var/profile"[__libc_enable_secure ? 9 : 0];
2296     %
2297     [CRYPTO-GRAM]
2298     By January 1st, 2007, everyone crossing the border between the U.S. and Canada is supposed to have
2299     a passport. This is because of terrorism, of course. But now we learn that ferries and private
2300     watercraft will be exempt. One of two things is true. Either passports are required for
2301     security, in which case we should interfere with ferries. Or they're for show, in which case we
2302     can just do what's convenient. Or maybe we just know that terrorists never take ferries. I get
2303     that security is a trade-off, but this is kind of silly.
2304    
2305     http://tinyurl.com/zl5af
2306     %
2307     [famous last words]
2308     11:22 <kaizoku> what do you mean by *plonk*?
2309     %
2310     What make a provider a tier 2, versus a tier 1 provider...
2311    
2312     "We are a tier 1 provider" = "I am a salesperson."
2313    
2314     "They are a tier 2 provider." = "I am a salesperson and they are our competitor".
2315    
2316     --
2317     Jay Hennigan
2318     %
2319     http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/17_Mistakes_Microsoft_Made_in_the_Xbox_Security_System
2320     %
2321     [latimes story about a man returning to the us from iraq and being
2322     held for selling copyrighted images on t-shirts by the department
2323     of homeland security]
2324     http://tinyurl.com/ourlr
2325     %
2326     "Some other types of programs won't make the transition to Windows x64
2327 root 1.432 seamlessly, either. Microsoft ships WinXP x64 with two versions of
2328 root 1.431 Internet Explorer, a 32-bit version and a 64-bit version. The 32-bit
2329     version is the OS default because nearly all ActiveX controls and the like
2330     are 32-bit code, and where would we be if we couldn't execute the full
2331     range of spyware available to us?"
2332    
2333     [http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/64-bits/index.x?pg=1]
2334     %
2335     [http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/kglobalaccel__x11_8cpp-source.html]
2336     00279 if( pEvent->xkey.state & KKeyServer::modXNumLock() ) {
2337     00280 // TODO: what's the xor operator in c++?
2338     %
2339 root 1.432 <Mikachu> give a man a fix and he's running urxvt one day, teach a man
2340 root 1.431 to fix and he will run urxvt all his life
2341     %
2342     The NSA Phone Call Database: The European Perspective
2343     http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2006/05/the_nsa_phone_c.html
2344     %
2345     Oh, I agree completely. No game has ever let me down the way Oblivoin
2346     did. I"m still hoping mods and expansions will fix it but there's no way
2347     I'm pre-ordering the next one. I'm afraid it really will be a first person
2348     shooter.
2349    
2350     The really scary thing is that it's not just video games. Book sales were
2351     done last year because people just don't read as much anymore. I'm having
2352     to dumb down my newspaper editorials because people used to want analysis
2353     they could use to make their own opinions, now they seem to just want
2354     opinions they can quote without having to think for themselves. McDonalds
2355     puts pictures of the food on the cash register instead of numbers.
2356    
2357     Face it. The human race is devolving. In 500 years the best selling RPG
2358     in the universe will be a console game where you roleplay an ape named
2359     Fred, swing on vines and throw your own excrement. You'll have one stat,
2360     apeness. It wiill effect everything you do in a subtle, yet unexplained
2361     way.
2362    
2363     And Bethesda fan boys will be screaming "TES 504: Monkeypoo good. You go
2364     bak cave, no good rpger. Two stats bad. Made feces throw too hard. Shiney
2365     key graphic good. Make me happy."
2366    
2367     *shrugs* But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
2368     %
2369     > So Hitler was a pacifist because he let other people kill for him? Most
2370     > D&D computer games require you to kill people (not simply knock them
2371     > out). Also just because you don't kill doesn't make you a pacifist (see
2372     > above comment about Hitler).
2373    
2374     I invoke the European rule: In any given argument, the first side to
2375     mention Hitler loses.
2376     %
2377     [siggraph '99 course 12]
2378     Unfortunately, including <windows.h> has the unfortunate side effect of
2379     introducing literally thousands of macros and type declarations into
2380     your compilation environment. This undesirable "name space pollution"
2381     can sometimes affect source code portability by conflicting with your
2382     program's own macros and types. This can particularly be a problem for
2383     UNIX programmers that are not familiar with all the junk that comes with
2384     including <windows.h>.
2385     [...]
2386     Win32's requirement that you use wglGetProcAddress is a real drag,
2387     but if you do everything right, using OpenGL extensions works and
2388     gives you access to amazing new OpenGL features. And let's be honest;
2389     wglGet- ProcAddress is hardly the only annoying and awkward thing about
2390     programming with the Win32 API. Still, by using the C preprocessor and
2391     coding carefully, you actually can write OpenGL programs that use OpenGL
2392     extensions and compile from the same source code for both UNIX and Win32
2393     environments.
2394     %
2395     http://neil.franklin.ch/Usenet/alt.folklore.computers/19981207_Computers_are_so_STY00PID
2396     %
2397     [http://www.voynich.net/Kryptos]
2398     "It's easier to rig an electronic voting machine than a Las Vegas slot machine"
2399     %
2400     [CRYPTO-GRAM 2006-03-15]
2401     [...] There are all sorts of interests vying for control of your
2402     computer. There are media companies that want to control what you can
2403     do with the music and videos they sell you. There are companies that
2404     use software as a conduit to collect marketing information, deliver
2405     advertising or do whatever it is their real owners require. And there are
2406     software companies that are trying to make money by pleasing not only
2407     their customers, but other companies they ally themselves with. All these
2408     companies want to own your computer.
2409    
2410     Some examples:
2411    
2412     1. Entertainment software: In October 2005, it emerged that Sony had
2413     distributed a rootkit with several music CDs -- the same kind of
2414     software that crackers use to own people's computers. This rootkit
2415     secretly installed itself when the music CD was played on a computer.
2416     Its purpose was to prevent people from doing things with the music that
2417     Sony didn't approve of: It was a DRM system. If the exact same piece of
2418     software had been installed secretly by a hacker, this would have been
2419     an illegal act. But Sony believed that it had legitimate reasons for
2420     wanting to own its customers' machines.
2421 root 1.432
2422 root 1.431 2. Antivirus: You might have expected your antivirus software to detect
2423     Sony's rootkit. After all, that's why you bought it. But initially, the
2424     security programs sold by Symantec and others did not detect it,
2425     because Sony had asked them not to. You might have thought that the
2426     software you bought was working for you, but you would have been wrong.
2427    
2428     3. Internet services: Hotmail allows you to blacklist certain e-mail
2429     addresses, so that mail from them automatically goes into your spam
2430     trap. Have you ever tried blocking all that incessant marketing e-mail
2431     from Microsoft? You can't.
2432    
2433     4. Application software: Internet Explorer users might have expected
2434     the program to incorporate easy-to-use cookie handling and pop-up
2435     blockers. After all, other browsers do, and users have found them
2436     useful in defending against Internet annoyances. But Microsoft isn't
2437     just selling software to you; it sells Internet advertising as well. It
2438     isn't in the company's best interest to offer users features that would
2439     adversely affect its business partners.
2440    
2441     5. Spyware: Spyware is nothing but someone else trying to own your
2442     computer. These programs eavesdrop on your behavior and report back to
2443     their real owners -- sometimes without your knowledge or consent --
2444     about your behavior.
2445    
2446     6. Update: Automatic update features are another way software companies
2447     try to own your computer. While they can be useful for improving
2448     security, they also require you to trust your software vendor not to
2449     disable your computer for nonpayment, breach of contract or other
2450     presumed infractions.
2451    
2452     Adware, software-as-a-service and Google Desktop search are all
2453     examples of some other company trying to own your computer. And Trusted
2454     Computing will only make the problem worse.
2455    
2456     There is an inherent insecurity to technologies that try to own
2457     people's computers: They allow individuals other than the computers'
2458     legitimate owners to enforce policy on those machines. These systems
2459     invite attackers to assume the role of the third party and turn a
2460     user's device against him.
2461     [...]
2462     You can fight back against this trend by only using software that
2463     respects your boundaries. Boycott companies that don't honestly serve
2464     their customers, that don't disclose their alliances, that treat users
2465     like marketing assets. Use open-source software -- software created and
2466     owned by users, with no hidden agendas, no secret alliances and no
2467     back-room marketing deals.
2468     %
2469     [John Carmack on Java]
2470     Write-once-run-anywhere. Ha. Hahahahaha. We are only testing on four
2471     platforms right now, and not a single pair has the exact same quirks. All
2472     the commercial games are tweaked and compiled individually for each
2473     (often 100+) platform. Portability is not a justification for the awful
2474     performance.
2475     %
2476     [http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,415577,00.html]
2477    
2478     "Wenn ich höre, dass die Telekom mit Microsoft kooperiert, da wird mir
2479     ganz anders", sagte Herbert Tillmann, der Vorsitzende der Produktions-
2480     und Technikkommission von ARD und ZDF dem Blatt. Man bevorzuge offene
2481     Standards und wolle sich der Plattform von Microsoft nicht ausliefern.
2482     %
2483     http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2006/05/german_cannibal.html
2484     %
2485     "Ok, this is complete off topic but WHY do so many Americans think that
2486     once your cross the 49th parellel into Canada that they are going out into
2487     a technology- and civilization-free zone???"
2488     http://p203.ezboard.com/ftruechristiansunitefrm31
2489     %
2490     http://funroll-loops.org/
2491     %
2492     [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL]
2493     When Direct3D was released in 1995, Microsoft, SGI, and Hewlett-Packard
2494     initiated the Fahrenheit project, which was a joint effort with the
2495     goal of unifying the OpenGL and Direct3D interfaces - and again, adding
2496     a scene-graph API. It initially showed some promise of bringing order
2497     to the world of interactive 3D computer graphics APIs, but on account
2498     of financial constraints at SGI and general lack of industry support
2499     it was abandoned. The engineers involved at SGI held a beach party in
2500     celebration - complete with bonfires on which they burned piles of
2501     Fahrenheit documentation.
2502     %
2503     [Whenever I try to use svn, it fails me. Sure I modified files, but whats
2504     the point of a RCS system that can't cope with that? Besides, I am 100%
2505     sure its much slower than CVS]
2506     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
2507     svn: Won't delete locally modified directory '.'
2508     svn: Left locally modified or unversioned files
2509 root 1.432 [Exit 1]
2510 root 1.431 cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn switch http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/
2511     svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
2512 root 1.432 [Exit 1]
2513 root 1.431 cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn diff
2514     svn: Working copy 'i18n' is missing or not locked
2515 root 1.432 [Exit 1]
2516 root 1.431 [Great, my local fixes are lost now, too. Whoever let this horror loose on
2517     humanity deserves to be shot or something like that]
2518     %
2519 root 1.430 [http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431.12]
2520    
2521     ... I'm evaluating a bunch of J2EE portlet-enabled JSR-compliant MVC
2522     role-based CMS web service application container frameworks. ...
2523 root 1.431 %
2524 root 1.429 Subject: RE: Question about Leap Second Features
2525    
2526     > Is there any implementation for this information on Microsoft operating
2527     > systems ?
2528    
2529     Any Microsoft operating system that is accurate down to the second can
2530     probably be hand-picked from Bill Gates' garage ... ;-)
2531    
2532     Jesper
2533     %
2534 root 1.428 [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ballmer]
2535    
2536     "As far as I can tell, the phrase 'I. Love. This. Company.
2537     YEEEAAAAAAAAARARRRRARAGH!' has FIVE words, not four."
2538    
2539 root 1.432 ~ Oscar Wilde on Steve Ballmer having four words for you.
2540 root 1.429 %
2541 root 1.427 http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/kafkaesque.html
2542     %
2543 root 1.426 [http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136541]
2544    
2545     You've doubled the work. People don't like that. People REALLY don't
2546     like that. The number of duplicate bugs filed against the chooser is
2547     evidence for this. Furthermore, click depth is a standard metric for
2548     measuring HCI usability, and this dialog has moved in the absolute wrong
2549     direction. People won't be satisfied until they get the entry box back
2550     into the dialog. You can grind your teeth and pull your hair all you want,
2551     but that's the truth.
2552     %
2553 root 1.424 [de.alt.ufo]
2554    
2555     Braun Ludwig <Wick84@gmx.de> wrote:
2556    
2557 root 1.432 > 1. Ufos sind für mich Flugobjekte des US Militärs mit einen neuartigen
2558     > Atrieb, der mit einen Motorgenerator von ca 100000 Volt und einer
2559     > Stromstärke von ca 2 mA, einer elektronischen Steuereinheit und einer
2560     > Antriebseinheit auf Kondensator Basis betrieben wird. Zur Erklärung des
2561 root 1.424
2562     Aaha! Naja, die Elektrogravitation ist wirklich seit langem bekannt. Damit aber
2563 root 1.425 einen Antrieb zu realisieren halte ich für weniger wahrscheinlich. So abstrakt
2564     ist diese Funktion nicht und es wären schon mehr als ein Mensch dahinter
2565 root 1.424 gekommen. Ich sicher auch.
2566    
2567     Allerdings schreibst Du hier von einem Generator. Es stellt sich die Frage
2568     was genau man mit 2 mA erzeugen will. Jeder Paralyzer schafft das mit
2569 root 1.425 der Hälfte der Spannung auch. Ich habe aber noch kein Opfer schweben
2570 root 1.424 gesehen. Im Gegenteil - die bewegen sich eigentlich immer ziemlich schnell
2571     in Richtung Boden.
2572    
2573     [...]
2574    
2575 root 1.432 > Dieser Ufo Flugzeug Typ wird in erster Linie als Spionage und
2576 root 1.425 > Aufklärungsflugobject eingesetzt.
2577 root 1.424
2578     Verstehe. Was ist in Afrika so interessant? Bekanntlich gibt oder gab es
2579 root 1.425 da bisher die überwiegenden Sichtungen. Was will z.B. der Ami von den
2580 root 1.424 Eingeborenen erfahren? Wie man richtig Reis oder Getreide kocht?
2581    
2582     [...]
2583    
2584     > 2. ausserirdische Ufo Flugobjekte.
2585 root 1.432 > Es gibt maximal 1 oder 2 oder drei ausserirdische Flugzeug
2586 root 1.425 > Beobachtungen, die tatsächlich wahr sind.
2587 root 1.424
2588     Nur drei? Das muss ich mir merken, damit ich das nicht vergesse. Welche
2589 root 1.425 mögen das Deiner Meinung nach wohl gewesen sein? Das ist ja noch
2590     schlimmer als Cenap, die von etwa 100.000 Fällen 1% erforscht haben,
2591     die wiederum schon im Vorfeld als 'normal' geklärt waren. Mit dieser
2592 root 1.424 Meinung solltest Du zu WW gehen und dich vorstellen. Der nimmmt Dich
2593     sofort.
2594     %
2595 root 1.423 [http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/Tech/connect4.htm]
2596     By the way, decryption can be performed easily in your editor with syntax
2597     like !!tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M (Sorry if you had the misfortune to buy your
2598     software from Microsoft.)
2599 root 1.424 %
2600 root 1.422 http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/
2601 root 1.424 %
2602 root 1.421 > BTW I have 2 English words for you, FUCK YOU
2603    
2604     Why, that's a rather intimate proposal. I never realised you were
2605     gay. While I would like to offer the hand of friendship, I am
2606     afraid that the thought of sex with a grown man doesn't really do
2607     much for me so I shall have to decline with a modicum of regret.
2608 root 1.424 %
2609 root 1.420 http://www.ta-sa.org/files/java_godkk.jpg
2610 root 1.419 http://www.chunder.com/carrots/javasux.html
2611 root 1.424 %
2612 root 1.418 Subject: Re: Docket No. 2005-22114
2613     From: Rodrigo Severo
2614     Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:04:33 -0200
2615     To: tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov
2616    
2617     On 1/23/06, Paul Eggert wrote:
2618    
2619     "David Braverman" <david@inner-drive.com> writes:
2620     It is a bit ironic that the US is less efficient than Brazil in fixing
2621     obviously-broken regulations like this.
2622    
2623     I'm sorry but I have to ask: where is the irony in this? I hope the answer
2624     isn't obvious to people from US and I'm not seeing it just because I'm
2625     brazilian ;)
2626     Rodrigo Severo
2627 root 1.424 %
2628 root 1.431 [Frankly, I'd just like to know what GNOME did wrong to deserve this :]
2629 root 1.417
2630     http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/faq.html#1.13
2631 root 1.424 %
2632 root 1.416 [Another entry in the series "make this a blog":]
2633    
2634     I wanted to see it for myself, and directed my browser to http://www.mpaa.org/.
2635    
2636     Got "Bad Request (Invalid Header Name)".
2637    
2638     Well.. some investigation showed that it didn't like the headers added by
2639     squid (in mostly default debian config).
2640    
2641     *sigh*
2642 root 1.424 %
2643 root 1.415 A LIBERAL DECALOGUE
2644     By Bertrand Russell
2645    
2646     Perhaps the essence of the Liberal outlook could be summed up in a new
2647     decalogue, not intended to replace the old one but only to supplement
2648     it. The Ten Commandments that, as a teacher, I should wish to promulgate,
2649     might be set forth as follows:
2650    
2651     1. Do not feel absolutely certain of anything.
2652    
2653     2. Do not think it worth while to proceed by concealing evidence, for the
2654     evidence is sure to come to light.
2655    
2656     3. Never try to discourage thinking for you are sure to succeed.
2657    
2658     4. When you meet with opposition, even if it should be from your husband
2659     or your children, endeavor to overcome it by argument and not by
2660     authority, for a victory dependent upon authority is unreal and illusory.
2661    
2662     5. Have no respect for the authority of others, for there are always
2663     contrary authorities to be found.
2664    
2665     6. Do not use power to suppress opinions you think pernicious, for if you
2666     do the opinions will suppress you.
2667    
2668     7. Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted
2669     was once eccentric.
2670    
2671     8. Find more pleasure in intelligent dissent that in passive agreement,
2672     for, if you value intelligence as you should, the former implies a deeper
2673     agreement than the latter.
2674    
2675     9. Be scrupulously truthful, even if the truth is inconvenient, for it is
2676     more inconvenient when you try to conceal it.
2677    
2678     10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool's
2679     paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness."
2680    
2681     "A Liberal Decalogue" is from The Autobiography of Bertrand Russell,
2682     Vol. 3: 1944-1969, pp. 71-2.
2683 root 1.424 %
2684 root 1.413 [http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/12/09/502014.aspx]
2685 root 1.412 John Hoy, President of the DVD Copy Control Association, made
2686     the following statement to the Library of Congress in its 2003
2687     Anticircumvention rulemaking proceedings:
2688    
2689     "Furthermore, if a consumer in the United States desires to view a DVD disc
2690     that has been region coded only for Europe, then that consumer is free to
2691     purchase a DVD player (either hardware or software) that is coded to play
2692     European DVDs. No legal restrictions apply-either through the CSS license
2693     or otherwise-to the importation and use of non-U.S. region players in the
2694     United States."
2695 root 1.413 ---
2696     It must really suck to live in a nation where competition is actually
2697     outlawed - you have to feel sorry for all those people oppressed by
2698     communists and socialists. Oh, wait.... ;)
2699 root 1.414 ---
2700     "You ain't seen nothin' yet! I heard that the new HD-DVDs or Blue-ray
2701     discs (whichever win eventually) will be street-encoded. You have to
2702     quote your street name while buying DVDs and they won't work in the next
2703     street. The hidden reason for this is that MPAA wants to charge upwards of
2704     $1000 per DVD for those living in million dollar mansions."
2705    
2706     This isn't far from the truth. Blu-ray disks for PlayStation3 will only
2707     play in ONE player on earth. MS will eventually make up something similar.
2708 root 1.424 %
2709 root 1.411 [gnome-clock and my radio-clock failed miserably, /bin/date and Linux worked:]
2710     Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC
2711 root 1.424 %
2712 root 1.410 [http://www.slate.com/id/2133993/]
2713    
2714     Vulnerabilities deemed "critical" have forced the company to release an
2715     almost unending stream of patches and fixes [...]
2716    
2717     Sure, it might be nice to connect your computer and your television
2718     set. But is it worth it to give hackers access to your television?
2719    
2720     Even if we don't use them, we suffer from them.
2721    
2722     [...] a former senior security analyst for the House of Representatives,
2723     believes that Microsoft is a threat to national security.
2724 root 1.424 %
2725 root 1.409 [Copyright History - US view]
2726     http://www.culturaleconomics.atfreeweb.com/cpu.htm
2727 root 1.424 %
2728 root 1.408 [I just re-read the unix haters hadnbook]
2729     X has had its share of $5,000 toilet seats -- like Sun's Open Look clock
2730     tool, which gobbles up 1.4 megabytes of real memory! If you sacrificed all
2731     the RAM from 22 Commodore 64s to clock tool, it still wouldn't have enough
2732     to tell you the time. Even the vanilla X11R4 "xclock" utility consumed
2733     656K to run. And X's memory usage is increasing.
2734 root 1.424 %
2735 root 1.406 [Got to remember this way of arguing, it's great if it works:]
2736    
2737     "Most people, I think, don’t even know what a rootkit is, so why should
2738     they care about it?"
2739     -- Thomas Hesse, Sony BMG’s Global Digital Business President.
2740 root 1.407
2741     [see also http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004145.php]
2742 root 1.424 %
2743 root 1.405 Let me repeat again: Formal axiomatic systems are a failure!
2744     -- Gregory Chaitin
2745 root 1.424 %
2746 root 1.432 13:49 <RayTracer> pixelsize=14 ist so groß wie 8 beim xchat wenn ich den
2747 root 1.404 gnome-settings-daemon nicht lade
2748     13:50 <schmorp> autsch, was hat das mit dem gnome-settings-daemon zu tun? ist ja hart!
2749     [...]
2750 root 1.432 13:51 <RayTracer> wenn ich den nicht lade sind alle gtk-programme mit großem Font,
2751     wenn ich ihn lade werden sie klein gemacht und wenn ich ihn töte ist
2752 root 1.404 wieder alles groß
2753 root 1.424 %
2754 root 1.403 [man perlsub]
2755     That prints "unphooey". (Yes, there are still unresolved issues
2756     having to do with visibility of @_. I’m ignoring that question
2757     for the moment. (But note that if we make @_ lexically scoped,
2758     those anonymous subroutines can act like closures... (Gee, is this
2759     sounding a little Lispish? (Never mind.))))
2760 root 1.424 %
2761 root 1.402 [glibc's bits/socket.h]
2762    
2763     if ((size_t) __cmsg->cmsg_len < sizeof (struct cmsghdr))
2764 root 1.432 /* The kernel header does this so there may be a reason. */
2765     return 0;
2766 root 1.424 %
2767 root 1.400 http://www.wicked-vision.com/zensur/zensur/zensur_bei_filmen.html
2768 root 1.401
2769     > Die Argumente liefen insbesondere darauf hinaus, dass es sich bei den
2770     > Filmen, auf die in Anspielungen verwiesen wird, um Filme handelt, die
2771     > entweder von der FSK gekennzeichnet wurden mit "nicht freigegeben
2772     > unter 18 Jahren", die von der Bundesprüfstelle indiziert wurden oder
2773     > die sogar durch entsprechende Beschlüsse bundesweit beschlagnahmt
2774     > wurden, also alles Filme, die Kindern und Jugendlichen aufgrund der
2775     > Gesetze zum Jugendschutz von vornherein nicht zugänglich sind. Kindern
2776     > und Jugendlichen wird daher die Persiflage auf diese Filme nicht
2777     > transparent.
2778    
2779     Das muß man sich mal auf der Zunge zergehen lassen: Da wird ein Film,
2780     der ab 18 Jahren freigegeben ist, indiziert, weil Kinder und Jugendliche
2781     die parodistischen Anspielungen nicht verstehen könnten. Mit solchen
2782     Begründungen beraubt sich die BPjS letztlich ihrer Glaubwürdigkeit.
2783 root 1.424 %
2784 root 1.399 Großmanns Gesetz: Komplexe Probleme haben einfache, leichtverständliche,
2785     aber falsche Lösungen.
2786 root 1.424 %
2787 root 1.398 A project done in Java will cost 5 times as much, take twice as long,
2788     and be harder to maintain than a project done in a scripting language such
2789     as PHP or Perl. [http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/09/20#a1762 Java
2790     is the SUV of programming tools] Philip Greenspun
2791 root 1.424 %
2792 root 1.397 On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Till Kamppeter wrote:
2793     >
2794     > Frederic told that the options from the PPD file are intentionally mot
2795     > listed in the printing dialog, the usability team of GNOME was against
2796     > listing these options. They clutter the dialog and can be more confusing
2797     > than useful to the user.
2798    
2799     I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE.
2800    
2801     This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of
2802     Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will
2803     use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long
2804     since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do.
2805    
2806     Please, just tell people to use KDE.
2807    
2808     Linus
2809 root 1.424 %
2810 root 1.396 Move 80, Node 81
2811     theodore [22k?]: i hear 8 d can read the future
2812     setzer [?]: what about 9d
2813     theodore [22k?]: they control it
2814 root 1.424 %
2815 root 1.395 [Fuqid 1.6 FAQ]
2816     Wenn ich HTL auf 300 setze dann lade ich viel schneller runter, warum?
2817    
2818 root 1.398 Weil du daran glaubst, das hat nur psychologische Gründe. HTL's grösser
2819 root 1.395 als das Nodelimit haben einfach keinen Einfluss. PUNKT!
2820     --
2821     Warum wurde Fuqid nicht in der geilen Sprache XX geschrieben?
2822    
2823     Du sprichst nur eine Sprache? Bist du Amerikaner?
2824 root 1.424 %
2825 root 1.393 [Are people responsible for the company they work at?]
2826     I was at a party in New York City earlier this year, and a conversation went like this:
2827    
2828     Person: What do you do?
2829     Me: I'm a computer programmer at Microsoft.
2830     Person: <viciously> I hate you.
2831    
2832     If Miss Manners didn't say so explicitly, I suspect she would nevertheless
2833     agree that snarling "I hate you" to somebody on first introduction is not
2834     exactly getting off on the right foot.
2835 root 1.394
2836     [And this is how that Microsoft programmer reacts to bugs in Microsoft software]
2837     http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/10/17/481810.aspx
2838 root 1.424 %
2839 root 1.392 "The music and film industries are demanding that the European parliament
2840     extends the scope of proposed anti-terror laws to help them prosecute
2841     illegal downloaders."
2842    
2843     Bill Thompson at the BBC has some pertinent commentary:
2844    
2845     "If they cannot come up with a business model which allows them to make
2846     profits without criminalising their customers, trampling over our civil
2847     liberties or installing malware on our computers then they do not deserve
2848     to stay in business, and new ways for artists to reach the public will
2849     have to emerge."
2850    
2851     http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4469886.stm
2852 root 1.424 %
2853 root 1.425 >Damit dürftest du der zweite Mensch sein, den ich kenne, der sich mit
2854 root 1.391 >einer so spartanischen Hardwareausstattung zufrieden gibt:) Ich selbst
2855    
2856     Mein Arbeitsplatz ist eine HP 715/80 - also 80 MHz. Da drauf laeuft der vi
2857     immer noch genauso schnell wie vor zehn Jahren :)
2858    
2859     Bye, Andy
2860 root 1.424 %
2861 root 1.398 [ka.uni.rz.stud, warum bestimmte zeichen in passwörtern verboten sind]
2862 root 1.425 >einem Passwort nicht zulässt, das kann ich nachvollziehen, aber wieso ein
2863 root 1.390 >Dollarzeichen, Leerzeichen, Klammeraffe, Doppelkreuz, Prozent, doppelte
2864 root 1.425 >Anführungszeichen, Paragraph und was es da noch so alles gibt? Und wieso nur
2865 root 1.390
2866     Dollarzeichen: DCE kann nicht damit umgehen.
2867     Leerzeichen: sind nur am Anfang und Ende eines PW verboten - es gibt
2868     System, die das wegstrippen :(
2869     Klammeraffe: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Kill-Zeichen (stammt
2870     halt noch aus der Zeit, als Fernschreiber als I/O-Geraete benutzt
2871     wurde, und ein Fernschreiber, der druckt, kann per Definition kein
2872     Backspace o.ae. haben - Tipp-Ex-Baender waren nicht eingebaut :)
2873     - und es gibt eben noch Systeme, die zum lokalen Login diese STTY-
2874     Settings benutzen. Seit wir die VT100-Terminals abgebaut haben,
2875     ist das fuer Studenten weniger relevant, unser BV behandelt aber
2876     alle Benutzer.
2877     Doppelkreuz: Ist bei einem Unix-Terminal das Standard-Erase-Zeichen
2878     Prozent: Mift, das hab' ich mir nicht aufgeschrieben, geht aber auch in
2879     irgendeinem System nicht. Vielleicht sollte man es mal wieder
2880     probieren (bis es knallt)?
2881     Doppelte Anfuehrungszeichen: Wurden von Radius als Begrenzer benutzt. Ja,
2882     der Radius-Server funktionierte nur mit Klartext-Passwoertern :(
2883     Ja, funktionierte, Vergangenheitsform, er ist jetzt endlich tot :)
2884     Ja, damit kann ich die doppelten Anfuehrungszeichen freigeben :)
2885     Paragraph: ist kein ASCII-Zeichen. Das kann die lustigsten Probleme geben,
2886     insbesondere wenn verschiedene encodings benutzt werden - IMHO gibt
2887     es auch Implementierungen, die das 8. Bit wegschneiden...
2888 root 1.424 %
2889 root 1.389 [subversion is just plain broken. I just lost all my local modifications, right?]
2890    
2891     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2892     svn: Working copy '.' locked
2893     svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2894     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn cleanup
2895     svn: 'programs/mythlcd' is not a working copy directory
2896     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn update
2897     svn: Working copy '.' locked
2898     svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
2899     cerebro ~/cvs/mythtv# svn help cleanup
2900     cleanup: Recursively clean up the working copy, removing locks, resuming
2901     unfinished operations, etc.
2902     usage: cleanup [PATH...]
2903    
2904     Valid options:
2905     --diff3-cmd arg : use ARG as merge command
2906     --config-dir arg : read user configuration files from directory ARG
2907    
2908     [Thanks for the details. Not.]
2909 root 1.424 %
2910 root 1.388 But there's an observation I can't help doing: it seems to me that the
2911     ratio of increase in the complexity of (some aspects of) the language _is_
2912     _much_ _bigger_ than that in the functionality such complexity is supposed
2913     to provide.
2914     - perl6-language - michele dondi
2915 root 1.424 %
2916 root 1.386 [From: perl6-language]
2917    
2918     The fact that there's not alot of active p5p'ers on this list should
2919     alarm people more.
2920    
2921     -Nate
2922    
2923     [...]
2924    
2925     My take on that is that it is because Perl 6 is not a new version of
2926     Perl 5. I still think "Perl" is a misleading name, and mostly hurts the
2927     image of the language that is created here.
2928    
2929     Juerd
2930    
2931     [...]
2932    
2933     (Oh, and that perl6 will never be able to upgrade my scripts that use
2934     'format', but I'm aware of the plan to make that `obsolete' as in: the
2935     perl526 translator will dump core on those)
2936    
2937 root 1.432 --
2938 root 1.386 H.Merijn Brand
2939 root 1.387 %
2940 root 1.385 Die Firma Microsoft warnte asiatische Regierungen am Donnerstag,
2941 root 1.388 dass diese patentrechtlich verklagt werden könnten, wenn sie das
2942 root 1.385 Betriebssystem Linux anstelle von Microsoft's Windows-Software einsetzen.
2943     Nachrichtenagentur Reuters (18. November 2004)
2944 root 1.387 %
2945 root 1.384 [Come on, "kidtalk"???]
2946     http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx
2947 root 1.387 %
2948 root 1.383 [Priceless :)]
2949     http://www.scottmccloud.com/comics/icst/icst-6/icst-6-full.html
2950 root 1.387 %
2951 root 1.382 [http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/15/1312216&from=rss]
2952     >> I hate it whenever Word tries to encourage me not to use passive.
2953     [...]
2954     > Okay then, translate "The window has been broken" into active voice.
2955     "Windows is broken."
2956 root 1.387 %
2957 root 1.381 [Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon on the perl6-language list:]
2958     Removing features simply because their implementation is inconvenient
2959     is not The Perl Way. If it were, Perl 6 would be Java With Sigils.
2960 root 1.387 %
2961 root 1.380 [Incidentally, the USoA is one of the two countries on earth that insist
2962     on being able to kill their children legally]
2963     http://www.post-gazette.com/breaking/20040329pornp6.asp
2964 root 1.387 %
2965 root 1.379 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test]
2966     The Miller test is the United States Supreme Court's test for determining
2967     whether speech or expression can be labeled obscene [...]
2968 root 1.387 %
2969 root 1.377 [http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050923-5346.html]
2970     "They find the anti-pornography crowd disturbing because they believe
2971     that policing pornography violates fundamental rights. This has become
2972     the dominant view in our society: As long as what I do doesn't harm you
2973     personally, I have a right to do it. It's a silly view and a view rejected
2974     by law enforcement policies all over the country."
2975 root 1.378 --
2976     "What we really need is less government and more common sense. The Bush
2977     administration thinks it can win the war in iraq, the war on terror, the
2978     war on drugs, and the war on smut while establishing a lunar colony and
2979     rebuilding New Orleans, all without raising taxes. He really needs a
2980     reality check. I can't believe that with all of this crap going on, Tom
2981     DeLay has the balls to claim that the republican party has eliminated
2982     wasteful government spending."
2983 root 1.387 %
2984 root 1.376 [Attaching 72lbs to spam-reply-envelopes is legal. Do it!]
2985     http://www.vertical-visions.com/_temp/postagepaid/index2.html
2986 root 1.387 %
2987 root 1.375 [Charley Tart on Consensus Trance: <SLAP> <SLAP> Wake up!]
2988     http://www.cantrip.org/charles_tart.html
2989 root 1.387 %
2990 root 1.375 ["It's such a moving story, it must be true"]
2991     http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=246277
2992 root 1.387 %
2993 root 1.374 [Pencil Carving]
2994     http://www.infofreako.com/jad/enpitsu-e.html
2995 root 1.387 %
2996 root 1.374 [Copyright]
2997 root 1.373 http://www.bromsun.com/practice/copyrights/flowchart.html
2998 root 1.387 %
2999 root 1.372 [Die Wirtschaft befreit die Menschen von der Arbeit]
3000     http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/stz/page/detail.php/949236
3001 root 1.387 %
3002 root 1.432 23:10 <mmead> schmorp: A federal appeals court ruled today that the president can indefinitely detain a U.S. citizen
3003     captured on U.S. soil in the absence of criminal charges, holding that such authority is vital to protect the
3004 root 1.371 nation from terrorist attacks.
3005 root 1.432 23:10 <mmead> A congressional resolution after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks "provided the President all powers
3006     necessary and appropriate to protect American citizens from terrorist attacks by those who attacked the United
3007 root 1.371 States on Sept. 11,'' the decision said.
3008 root 1.432 23:10 <mmead> The decision by a three-judge panel was written by Judge J. Michael Luttig, who sources have said is under
3009     consideration by President Bush for nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court.
3010 root 1.387 %
3011 root 1.370 [Looks extreme]
3012     http://www.counterpunch.org/
3013 root 1.387 %
3014 root 1.369 [Some glimpse of what happened in New Orleans]
3015     "As we approached the bridge, armed Gretna sheriffs formed a line across the
3016     foot of the bridge. Before we were close enough to speak, they began firing
3017     their weapons over our heads."
3018     http://www.livejournal.com/users/malbec/1052572.html
3019 root 1.387 %
3020 root 1.368 [Global Average Temperature vs. Number of Pirates]
3021     http://www.sheise.de/files/PirateGraph.jpg
3022 root 1.387 %
3023 root 1.367 [http://www.fefe.de/nowindows/]
3024     Many people using Windows don't care about their freedom. They do care
3025     about quality software and for that reason try to replace all the user
3026     space software from Microsoft with better free alternatives. This is the
3027     sole reason for the existance of cygwin.
3028 root 1.387 %
3029 root 1.366 [http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/trusted_computing/20031001_tc.php]
3030 root 1.387 %
3031 root 1.366 The TCG has resisted defining "owner" for purposes of their spec, despite
3032     several requests for clarification.
3033    
3034     Think of it this way: most computer-related "stuff" now has a "licensed,
3035     not sold" tag attached. Ask yourself again, then, who has ultimate control
3036     unter TCG definitions.
3037 root 1.387 %
3038 root 1.366 But rememer they aren't doing anything wrong and they aren't trying to
3039     force anything on you. It is all opt-in and you always get to set the
3040     policy on your computer. It's just that nothing works any more unless you
3041     do opt-in and you do set your policy exactly they way they tell you to.
3042 root 1.387 %
3043 root 1.366 It's not coercion. It's for security. It helps the economy. It thwarts
3044     terrorists. TPM gives flags to orphans if that's what it needs to do to
3045     get people on board.
3046     %
3047 root 1.365 To have a secure computer, you must download the latest
3048     patches. Therefore, you must upgrade to SP4, and therefore, you must
3049     accept the EULA that requires you to agree with Microsoft's proprietary
3050     DRM.
3051    
3052     The end is near. Security patches will soon require your body to be
3053     injected with RFID. Surely, we are all doomed.
3054 root 1.387 %
3055 root 1.364 [http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/09/01/1419222.shtml?tid=172&tid=109]
3056     switch ($decade) {
3057     case "the 50's":
3058     s/the Boogyman/Communist agitators/g;
3059     break;
3060     case "the 60's":
3061     s/the Boogyman/acid-eating hippies/g;
3062     break;
3063     case "the 70's":
3064     s/the Boogyman/disco/g;
3065     break;
3066     case "the 80's":
3067     s/the Boogyman/mutual assured destruction (and Grenada!)/g;
3068     break;
3069     case "the 90's":
3070     s/the Boogyman/evil hackers and George Michael/g;
3071     break;
3072     case "the 00's":
3073     s/the Boogyman/terrorists/g;
3074     break;
3075     }
3076 root 1.387 %
3077 root 1.363 http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2005/08/curiosities-from-japans-porno-shops.html
3078    
3079     "How fucking creepy is that? As you can see from the flyer included
3080     in the capsule (note the kiddie crayon font), the other toys in the
3081     assortment include little girls spreading their legs, little girls sucking
3082     suggestively on popsicles, and little girls dry-humping their teddy bears"
3083    
3084     "Interestingly enough, none of the cans were very long - maybe six inches
3085     at the most. I was trying to avoid the whole Asian-men-have-small-penises
3086     thing, but they kind of handed it to me on a silver platter."
3087    
3088     ""Maybe I should just try it. Just see what it feels like..." I mean,
3089     why not, right? You know. Just for kicks, right? So you know what? I
3090     fucked it. Yeah. I fucked a plastic beer can. I fucked the shit out of
3091     that can. And you know what? It felt alright. It did the trick. That
3092     is, until it was all over. Until the moment after, when I was hit by a
3093     sobering freight train of humility, looking down at my dick stuck inside a
3094     latex vagina housed in a plastic beer can. Moments like that you start to
3095     question everything - "How the hell did it come to this? Who am I? What am
3096     I doing with my life?" I probably sat there for an hour, silently with my
3097     plastic lover, pondering my existence."
3098 root 1.387 %
3099 root 1.362 "The scholars of Islam, such as Malik, Ash-Shafi`i, Ahmad and Ishaaq said
3100     that (the person guilty of this crime) should be stoned, whether he is
3101     married or unmarried."
3102    
3103     http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547102
3104     http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/02/Article01-0.shtml
3105     http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/07/Article02.shtml
3106     http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545556
3107     http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543324
3108 root 1.387 %
3109 root 1.362 http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503546996
3110    
3111     [I like this comparison between of and watching television:]
3112     Your brother is not at all different from those who have been conditioned
3113     to fornicate, or commit theft or murder, or who have become addicted to
3114     watching pornography or even television for that matter. All of these
3115     are destructive habits that one learns through continuous exposure or
3116     conditioning.
3117    
3118     [And this is religion at its best:]
3119     Let him continuously read, reflect and meditate on the verses of the
3120     Qur'an that deal with the punishment meted to the nation who practiced
3121     this abomination; let him also read the verses depicting hell fire.
3122 root 1.387 %
3123 root 1.361 [Racism]
3124     http://www.flickr.com/photos/firewall/38725768/
3125 root 1.387 %
3126 root 1.360 [A link, just a link]
3127     http://www.oilcrisis.com/
3128 root 1.387 %
3129 root 1.359 As you may have noticed, the HOWTO is getting stale, you can't subscribe to
3130     the mailinglist and a lot of messages sent to it aren't getting through.
3131    
3132     I apologise for this.
3133    
3134     If all goes well I'll get my driver's license this Tuesday, which will allow
3135     me to visit the server, which I can't easily reach right now.
3136 root 1.387 %
3137 root 1.358 PSYC @> el says: von java bekommt man krebs
3138     induktiv says: java is ein riesiger marketing misthaufen voll mit code von uebereifrigen fh-programmierern
3139     el says: ich kenn da wen
3140     el says: bei dem wars so
3141     [...]
3142     PSYC @> el says: und.. naja, der hat also ganz viel java programmiert
3143     el says: und bekam augenkrebs
3144     el says: gehirntumor auch
3145     el says: ich weiss nicht, was vorher da war
3146 root 1.387 %
3147 root 1.357 wget http://el.l.tobij.de/ratz.jpg && xsetbg ratz.jpg
3148 root 1.387 %
3149 root 1.356 [in a reply to a school work assignment about proving why env vars make
3150     no sense in the kernel]
3151     From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
3152    
3153     [...]
3154    
3155     Mathematical proofs are accomplished within a framework of mathematical
3156     models.
3157    
3158     In the postmodern time period and we gave up belief that the mathematical
3159     models are an accurate representation of reality. We only expect that
3160     they are sufficiently accurate for the purposes at hand.
3161 root 1.387 %
3162 root 1.354 [such nice quotes from http://theinquirer.net/?article=24638]
3163     There will be EF devices, EF branded content and probably EF branded
3164     contraceptives to use while watching EF branded porn.
3165     --
3166     Any DRM on a machine is simply a sign of failure.
3167 root 1.355 --
3168     This crushing DRM that is being foisted upon you is the surest sign that
3169     you don't want this product, and you will be paying too much for it. Don't
3170     like that? Bought legislators are hard at work making sure you will go to
3171     jail if you try to exercise your rights on the issue.
3172 root 1.387 %
3173 root 1.353 An absolutely fascinating interview with Robert Pape, a University of
3174     Chicago professor who has studied every suicide terrorist attack since
3175     1980. "The central fact is that overwhelmingly suicide-terrorist
3176     attacks are not driven by religion as much as they are by a clear
3177     strategic objective: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military
3178     forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland."
3179     <http://www.amconmag.com/2005_07_18/article.html>
3180     [From: CRYPTO-GRAM 2005-08-15]
3181 root 1.387 %
3182 root 1.352 [If you are a US citizen, you might want to fight for the right to vote,
3183     which you currently do not posess]
3184     http://reclaimdemocracy.org/political_reform/right_to_vote.html
3185 root 1.387 %
3186 root 1.388 Kind: "Daad! Die alten Griechen mußten 44 Arten der Selbstverteidigung lernen, ohne Waffen!"
3187     Vater: "Dafür haben wir eine zweistufige elektrische Heckenschere."
3188 root 1.351 [Nach: Time Bandits]
3189 root 1.387 %
3190 root 1.350 http://www.cpmission.com/main/painpolitics/mdjackson.html
3191 root 1.387 %
3192 root 1.349 Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off
3193     a horse.." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse.."
3194 root 1.387 %
3195 root 1.432 Tcl is LISP on drugs. Using strings instead of S-expressions for closures
3196     is Evil with one of those gigantic E's you can find at the beginning of
3197     paragraphs.
3198 root 1.387 %
3199 root 1.347 [the average IQ seems to be declining]
3200     http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000953.html
3201     http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/
3202 root 1.387 %
3203 root 1.346 [http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/07/31/0626257.shtml?tid=153&tid=98&tid=95&tid=103&tid=219]
3204     > If you know anything, most catholics register as democrats
3205    
3206     Most catholics aren't American.
3207 root 1.387 %
3208 root 1.345 [Some things possibly cannot exist...]
3209    
3210     [http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/depleted-uranium.html]
3211     In NEWS1920, we demonstrated how America's widespread usage of Depleted
3212     Uranium munitions is fulfilling the prophetic End of the Age prophecy
3213     against Babylon (Iraq). Now, we examine how our D.U. is quite possibly
3214     fulfilling another major prophecy: Revelation 6:3-4
3215    
3216     [http://cuttingedge.org/detail.cfm?ID=939]
3217     How Mormon Temples Are Built To Be Demon Magnets
3218 root 1.387 %
3219 root 1.344 [http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/23/egypt.explosions/index.html]
3220     Asked whether he thought the blasts might be related to Islam, he
3221     replied, "What Islam? This terrorism has nothing to do with any religion,
3222     because all religions do not allow aggression and do not allow killing
3223     civilians in innocence. Those don't belong to Muslims. They are a gang of
3224     criminals."
3225 root 1.387 %
3226 root 1.343 The Black Hole in the Galactic Center
3227     [http://www.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de/staff/hfalcke/bh/sld1.html]
3228 root 1.387 %
3229 root 1.342 To me anything above 30 fps is good and 45-50 is amazing... 75 is more
3230     than I've seen lol. Then again I come from a mac
3231 root 1.387 %
3232 root 1.341 [There are things the US congress can do that were far beyond my imagination]
3233     http://reason.com/rauch/99_08_07.shtml
3234 root 1.387 %
3235 root 1.340 The MSI MS-9130 (K8T Master2-FAR) is an excellent board. The only problem
3236     I had was with my video card shorting out and frying both the board and
3237     card (They went up in flames).
3238 root 1.387 %
3239 root 1.432 05:46 <mmead> AP and UPI reported that the French government announced yesterday that
3240     it has raised its terror alert level from "run" to "hide." The only two
3241     higher levels in France are "surrender" and "collaborate." The action
3242     was precipitated by the recent fire which destroyed one of France's
3243 root 1.338 white flag factories, disabling their military.
3244 root 1.432 05:47 <mmead> it's obviously been recirculated recently:
3245 root 1.339 http://www.edthibodeau.com/nonplussed/2004/10/french_terror_a.html
3246 root 1.387 %
3247 root 1.337 [The following quote from a NASA press release shows impressively how much
3248     we know. And more importantly, how to build up scientific knowledge part
3249     by part. "Knowledge" always has a margin-of-error inherently attached to it.]
3250    
3251     "The cloud indicated the comet is covered in the powdery stuff."
3252    
3253     [http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/text/di_pr_20050708.txt]
3254 root 1.387 %
3255 root 1.336 [http://www.skippy.net/blog/2005/06/09/security-through-stupidity/]
3256     Silly questions abound, all to cover people's butts. When I moved to
3257     the US in 1992 (from Canada), one of the questions on my green card
3258     application was "Do you, or any member of your immediate family, plan to
3259     violently overthrow the government of the United States or assasinate any
3260     elected official?" Not only did they have checkboxes for "yes" and "no",
3261     but they had a blank space labelled, "If you checked 'yes', please provide
3262     a detailed explanation in the space below." I never figured out what kind
3263     of explanation would make them give you a green card anyway.
3264     --
3265     Hasbro should ask the same. Teddy Ruxpin chips were found on a number
3266     of landmines during the first gulf war... First, we just thought these
3267     people REALLY hate Teddy Ruxpin, maybe we're not so different after all...
3268     but on further investigation, Ruxpin had easily-programmable EEPROMs, so
3269     the Ruxpin chip was actually being repurposed as a controller for the
3270     explosives. They were jackin' overseas deliveries to get the Ruxpins.
3271 root 1.387 %
3272 root 1.335 http://graphics.stanford.edu/~danielrh/vote/vote.html
3273     The Obfuscated V contest
3274 root 1.387 %
3275 root 1.335 Airplane security is getting surreal: "...FAA regulation that requires
3276     soldiers -- all of whom were armed with an arsenal of assault rifles,
3277     shotguns and pistols -- to surrender pocket knives, nose hair scissors and
3278     cigarette lighters."
3279     http://tinyurl.com/7z8my
3280 root 1.387 %
3281 root 1.334 <http://babygimp.sourceforge.net/>
3282     Does it run under Windows ?
3283     - Who cares?
3284 root 1.387 %
3285 root 1.333 [Can hot water freeze faster than cold water?]
3286 root 1.332 http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html
3287 root 1.387 %
3288 root 1.331 http://www.physik3.gwdg.de/~rgeisle/nld/sbsl-howto.html
3289     Single Bubble Sonoluminescence HOWTO
3290     [...]
3291     Don't bother me with "my bottle exploded, what was wrong?"-stuff; While the bottle is heated it mustn't be closed!
3292     [...]
3293     Darken your room completely. Adapt your eyes, which may take 15 minutes up
3294     to half an hour. Look at the flask or at least where you think your flask
3295     is (remember: the room is completely darkened).
3296 root 1.387 %
3297 root 1.329 [de.alt.ufo]
3298 root 1.432 > Ja, stimmt - ich hatte mich früher viel mit Leuten beschäftigt, die
3299     > wahrscheinlich entführt wurden, oder bei denen es den Anschein hatte. Im
3300     > Moment beschäftige ich mich mit der Konstruktion eines kleinen UFO-
3301 root 1.388 > Detektors, der die UFO- Ereignisse auch zählt.-
3302 root 1.330 > www.ufo-finder.de
3303 root 1.432 > Aber Feld-Forscher bin ich deshalb noch nicht. Das geht gesundheitlich nicht
3304 root 1.330 > mehr!
3305     > richy.
3306    
3307     Und es gibt wirklich Deppen, die sich von dir abzocken lassen??
3308 root 1.387 %
3309 root 1.330 [de.alt.ufo]
3310 root 1.329 > Wie kann ich online etwas belegen, das sich in der Vergangenheit
3311     > zugetragen hat?
3312    
3313     Das solltest Du Dich selbst mal fragen. Wenn Du es nicht belegen kannst,
3314     warum behauptest Du es dann?
3315 root 1.388 [später]
3316     > Ach, wenn es interessant wird, umfängt Dich Faulheit?
3317 root 1.329
3318     Bei dir ist das angemessen, du hast deinen Ruf weg.
3319     Du plapperst immer nur von Belegen, verlangst letzten Endes
3320     naturwissenschaftliche/physikalische Beweise (genaugenommen:
3321     ein Alien-craft zum Vorfuehren), darunter akzeptierst du nichts,
3322     aber das stellt sich erst nach ellenlangen threads heraus.
3323    
3324     Aber das ist bekannt, und eigentlich belanglos.
3325    
3326     Wer sich auf Debatten mit dir einlaesst und Argumente erwartet
3327     von jemand, der die Wissenschaft zur Ersatzreligion verquast,
3328     ist eigentlich selbst schuld.
3329 root 1.387 %
3330 root 1.388 [de.alt.ufo, über einen www.rtl.de-news-Artikel]
3331 root 1.328 Wie die Skepsos so schoen sagen: der Verfasser von dem Quark war so offen,
3332     dem ist das Gehirn rausgefallen.
3333 root 1.387 %
3334 root 1.327 [res_nsend.c]
3335     /* give the hook another try */
3336     if (++loops < 42) /*doug adams*/
3337     break;
3338 root 1.387 %
3339 root 1.326 [sr_port/mdq.h]
3340 root 1.432 /* Insert a doubly-linked list of elements from "n->q.fl" to "n->q.bl"
3341 root 1.326 in between "o" and "o->q.fl" */
3342     #define dqadd(o,n,q) ((o)->q.fl->q.bl=(n)->q.bl,(n)->q.bl->q.fl=(o)->q.fl,(o)->q.fl=(n)->q.fl,(n)->q.fl->q.bl=(o))
3343 root 1.387 %
3344 root 1.325 Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
3345 root 1.387 %
3346 root 1.324 * Andreas Waechter <mail@andreas-waechter.de> [06-25-05 00:58]:
3347 root 1.432 > No, Thunderbird should not "reply" to the list with the
3348 root 1.324 > current settings of the list.
3349 root 1.432 >
3350     > There is no "Reply-To" header, thus a "Reply" has to go to
3351     > the address in the "From" header - which is the address of
3352 root 1.324 > the original sender, not the list.
3353 root 1.432 >
3354     > The List address is in the "To" field. Thus only a "Reply
3355     > All" will go to the list as CC (and to the original sender
3356 root 1.324 > as TO).
3357 root 1.432 >
3358 root 1.324 > Don't blame my mail client for the set-up of the list.
3359    
3360     Your *mail* client is *not* being blamed. It is *your*
3361     responsibility. No one disputes your choice of mail client, but it
3362     *is* your responsibility to see that *your* posts are properly
3363     addressed to the list, not the list's software or the people you are
3364     being discourteous to.
3365    
3366     The *fault* is *all* yours. It is/was your choice.
3367     --
3368     Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535
3369 root 1.387 %
3370 root 1.323 [http://www.heise.de/ct/00/20/104/]
3371 root 1.388 "Sie können mit falschen Tatsachen Leute überzeugen, das ist nun mal so."
3372 root 1.387 %
3373 root 1.322 An appeals court in Minnesota has ruled that the presence of encryption
3374     software [PGP] on a computer may be viewed as evidence of criminal intent.
3375     http://www.granick.com/archive/2005_05_01_theshout_archive.html#1117581
3376     http://news.com.com/Minnesota+court+takes+dim+view+of+encryption/2100-1030_3-5718978.html
3377     http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/archive/ctappub/0505/opa040381-0503.htm
3378 root 1.387 %
3379 root 1.322 [http://www.komotv.com/stories/37150.htm]
3380     "They said 'no' and they said it's a national security issue. And I said
3381     what about my constitutional rights? And they said 'not at this point ...
3382     you don't have any'."
3383 root 1.323
3384     [I also am very fond of this quote:]
3385     "My concern is that if that's the way they're treating American citizens I
3386     would hate to think how they're treating other people. It's crazy."
3387     [Don't they have _any_ ethics?? What about equality? Ah well, I forgot...]
3388 root 1.387 %
3389 root 1.321 [http://wiki.ffii.org/CampIcecream050601En]
3390     Yes its true! If you go down to Place du Luxembourg from now until
3391     3pm, you can collect your free icecream and support the Computer
3392     Implemented Inventions Common Position!
3393 root 1.387 %
3394 root 1.319 [http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation/algorithm/upconversion/index.htm]
3395     The change from Blitz to standard arrays had little effect on the
3396     execution time so I stuck with the standard type. The standard arrays
3397     should be more acceptable to developers who want to modify the code.
3398     Insisting that the developer use a certain array container for no good
3399     reason will not win many fans.
3400    
3401     [http://dirac.sourceforge.net/documentation.html has other nice
3402     documents in the algorithm section]
3403 root 1.387 %
3404 root 1.318 ["Blue in the Face"]
3405     Ich kriege in New York keine Angst, nein... aber in Schweden...da isses
3406     irgendwie so leer und da sind alle betrunken... und alles funktioniert...
3407     und, naja, wnen du an einer roten Ampel den motor nicht abstellst, reden
3408     die leute mit dir.... die zeigen da im fernsehen ohrenoperationen...
3409    
3410     Solche dinge machen mir Angst... nicht New York.
3411 root 1.387 %
3412 root 1.317 And before I forget it, readers fascinated by the idea of Central
3413     Europeans using A6 as a toilet paper size might also be interested to hear
3414     that the U.S. have for the same application field a standard square format
3415 root 1.388 of 4.5×4.5 in = 114×114 mm, which is for instance documented in New Jersey
3416 root 1.317 Specification No. 7572-01 (May 1997), section 2.3.
3417     [http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html]
3418 root 1.387 %
3419 root 1.316 [Better know what they actually do...]
3420 root 1.388 [Technische Richtlinie / Telekommunikationsüberwachung]
3421 root 1.316 http://www.regtp.de/imperia/md/content/tech_reg_t/ueberwachu/TR_TKUE_Ausgabe_4.1_29-11-2004.pdf
3422 root 1.315 [RFC3924 Cisco Architecture for Lawful Intercept in IP Networks]
3423     ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3924.txt
3424 root 1.387 %
3425 root 1.314 [rfc4096]
3426     The FTC called a summit of leading thinkers, and the regulation was
3427     amended to read "but don't use languages that go from right to left
3428     or up and down instead of plain old left to right." Needless to say,
3429     the reaction from the Freedonian League for the Defense of Linguistic
3430     Diversity killed that proposed regulation really quickly.
3431 root 1.387 %
3432 root 1.313 [just a really nice md5sum]
3433     99421268df476006401f11f96b655248
3434 root 1.387 %
3435 root 1.312 [a comment in some g729 sample implementation]
3436 root 1.432 * For G.729(,A,B) royalty payments, see http://www.sipro.com
3437 root 1.312 * WARNING: please make sure you are sitting down before looking
3438     * at their price list.
3439 root 1.387 %
3440 root 1.311 [http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=139347&cid=11665921]
3441     You'd think I was overgeneralizing, but I'm not. Absolutely every single
3442     time I see HN in use, I quickly end up learning that the programmer who
3443     wrote the code was an idiot. On at least two separate occasions, I've
3444     had to correct C code with HN that did not allocate space for the null
3445     terminator on any strings anywhere in the code. That's pretty much the
3446     level of programming talent you can expect when you see HN in use.
3447 root 1.387 %
3448 root 1.309 21:22 <mmead> tiger's SMB support is fucking broken
3449     21:26 <oesi> mmead: when you grow up, you will substitute "'s SMB support" by "" :)
3450 root 1.387 %
3451 root 1.308 03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> ich dachte immer alle beinhaltet mehr als 1
3452     03:05 <oesi> 02:34 <bani_> aba naja
3453     03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <oesi> nein, viele beinhaltet mehr als 1
3454     03:05 <oesi> 02:35 <bani_> stimmt auch wieder
3455 root 1.387 %
3456 root 1.319 [ein so gut geschriebenes dokument erwartet man eigentlich nicht mal vom BSI]
3457 root 1.307 http://www.bsi.bund.de/literat/studien/antispam/antispam.pdf
3458 root 1.387 %
3459 root 1.306 [some SPAM]
3460     Freie Geschlechtabbildungen und -filme. Und Phasennetznocken
3461 root 1.387 %
3462 root 1.305 cowsay -f head-in oink | cowthink -n -f sodomized
3463 root 1.387 %
3464 root 1.304 [star wars episode guide]
3465     1 =Epichode 1: The Phantom Grimace
3466     2 =Epichode 2: Attack of the Groans
3467     3 =Epichode 3: Revenge of the Shit
3468     4 = Episode 4: A New Hope
3469     5 = Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back(By far the best Star Wars film. One of the finest movies ever made.)
3470     6 = Episode 6: Return of the Jedi(would have been a thousand times cooler if the ewoks had been Wookies).
3471     [http://www.beggingtodiffer.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=pp;action=display;num=1113843411]
3472 root 1.387 %
3473 root 1.300 [God knows his enemies]
3474     http://sheise.de/files/GODvsBUSH.gif
3475 root 1.302 [Uh-oh, "se germans are next"]
3476 root 1.303 http://sheise.de/files/cnn_iraq.jpg [a fake, but nevertheless]
3477 root 1.387 %
3478 root 1.299 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054743/
3479 root 1.301 [Why is it that every good Hollywood movie is at least 30+ years old?]
3480 root 1.387 %
3481 root 1.298 [http://www.bildblog.de/]
3482 root 1.388 Die "Bild"-Zeitung schreibt Blödsinn, und alle schreiben's ab. Die
3483     rührende Geschichte von den "Unfallforschern", die angeblich "ermittelt"
3484     hätten, was doch nur eine schlichte Umrechnung von Stundenkilometern in
3485 root 1.298 Meter pro Sekunde ist, zieht Kreise.
3486    
3487     Nachrichtenagentur ddp, 3. Mai, 03:16 Uhr:
3488    
3489     Laut "Bild" ermittelten Unfallforscher, dass ein Auto bei einer
3490     Geschwindigkeit von 50 Kilometern pro Stunde etwa 14 Meter pro Sekunde
3491 root 1.388 ungebremst weiterfährt, während der Fahrer nach einer fallengelassenen
3492 root 1.298 Zigarette sucht.
3493    
3494     Nachrichtenagentur AFP, 3. Mai, 04:25 Uhr:
3495    
3496     [usw.]
3497    
3498     Bei "Stern Online" ist aus den "Unfallforschern" schon eine ganze "Studie"
3499 root 1.388 geworden, die plötzlich zu Ergebnissen kommt, die nur scheinbar mit den
3500 root 1.298 bekannten "Ermittlungen" identisch sind:
3501    
3502     Nach Auffassung des SPD-Verkehrsexperten Peter Danckert kann eine
3503     brennende Zigarette den Fahrer jedoch ebenso wie ein klingelndes
3504     Telefon ablenken. Er verwies auf eine Studie, nach der ein 50
3505     Stundenkilometer schnelles Auto mindestens 14 Meter weiterrolle, wenn
3506     der Fahrer nach einer Zigarette sucht.
3507 root 1.387 %
3508 root 1.388 [schlimmer als de.alt.ufo, schlimmer als jede Verarschung sein könnte...]
3509 root 1.297 http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2005/01/22/sonne__boese/sonne__boese.html
3510     http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2004/12/28/seebeben/zerreisst__unsere__erde.html
3511 root 1.387 %
3512 root 1.296 [http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=147629&cid=12370229]
3513     Which fanboy are you?
3514    
3515     1. Windows
3516    
3517     You wear wraparound sunglasses, even indoors. You wish your mother
3518     would let you ride a motorbike. You tell your friends you're pulling
3519     in $50,000 a year and $2,000 a month "playing the stock market" but
3520     in reality you're only bringing in half that and your dividends from
3521     MSFT havn't been good in years. Your non computing friends all turn
3522     to you for help; you only charge $30 an hour. Your collegues talk
3523     about you behind your back. Your workplace nickname is likely to be
3524     "The Asshole". Unlike the Linux fanboys, you actually try to pick up
3525     dates in bars but women laugh at you.
3526    
3527     2. Apple
3528    
3529     You think you're so cool you hurt. You have mirrors on every wall
3530     in your "loft apartment", which is really a grimy little apartment
3531     next to a guy who plays Guns 'n Roses at 3am. All of your furniture
3532     is from Ikea. You sometimes think that changing your name to "Steve"
3533     would be "pretty cool". When you go to bars you only drink Miller
3534     Lite. No body ever asks you for help with their computers because
3535     they know you don't know anything but OS X, even if you do tell them
3536     you "run Unix" now. Your friends openly laugh at you.
3537    
3538     3. Linspire
3539    
3540     You regularly give $10 bills to homeless guys because you have
3541     too much money. Computers baffle you, but you enjoy looking at
3542     pictures of naked women. You don't know what Linux is, but you
3543     continually bugged the IT guy at work about your computer so he
3544     installed Linspire on your machine.
3545    
3546     4. Umbongo
3547    
3548     You shop at GAP. You probably used to use a Mac. When you saw the
3549     multiracial image used as a desktop picture and heard that this
3550     operating system came from the same country as Nelson Mandela, you
3551     knew it was for you. You meet with your friends in fair-trade coffee
3552     houses and talk about the eventual overthrow of evil corporations
3553     such as Microsoft and Starbucks. Like the Linspire user, you have
3554     very little real knowlege when it comes to computers but you would
3555     never use your computer to look at pictures of women degrading
3556     themselves.
3557    
3558     5. Gentoy
3559    
3560     You've been "into computers" for ohh, one or two years now and fancy
3561     yourself as "a bit of a hacker". Wouldn't know C from C++, or even
3562     Perl for that matter. Older Gentoy users may be building their homes
3563     from matchsticks. You've explained to all your friends that your
3564     matchstick house will have an "optimised floorplan". They've tried
3565     to tell you that your house violates every known building code and
3566     law in your area, but you've ignored them so far because you can't
3567     read those complicated regulatory documents.
3568    
3569     6. Linux From Scratch
3570    
3571     Much like the Gentoy user but you'd also be into sadomasochistic
3572     sex if you could get it. You're not just building a house from
3573     matchsticks, you're planing to grow the trees to make the
3574     matchsticks. You've cleared some land but don't know what to do next
3575     because you havn't read the books you've got, so you've posted to
3576     alt.arborists.newbie asking for help. It's been three days so far
3577     and no one has replied. You remain hopeful.
3578 root 1.387 %
3579 root 1.295 [/usr/bin/cowsay]
3580     if (($^O eq "MSWin32") or ($^O eq "Windows_NT")) { ## Many perls, eek!
3581 root 1.387 %
3582 root 1.294 [A few days after the 6.0.9 release announcement]
3583    
3584     In the spirit of release early, release often.... Err no, actually more
3585     in the spirit of, let's not try to lose data during file resolution...
3586    
3587     Coda 6.0.10 is out
3588 root 1.387 %
3589 root 1.293 <opine@orifice2.com> wrote:
3590    
3591     > > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:55:28 -0800, CrabRangoon wrote
3592 root 1.432 >
3593 root 1.388 > > Meine Großmutter hat einen kleinen Hinterhof und sie benutzt selten die
3594 root 1.293 > > Dusche. Bei vielen Gelegenheiten habe ich mehr als 4
3595 root 1.388 > > Lebensmittelgeschäftspeicher-Versorgungsmaterialien Sellerie an einem
3596     > > einzelnen Tag verbraucht. Würde es irgendein Benzin unter meiner Couch
3597     > > geben, wenn ich meine Hose bügelte?
3598 root 1.432 >
3599     > What does your granny's tiny ass have to do with this group? Other than the
3600 root 1.293 > smell attracting flies of course...
3601 root 1.432 >
3602 root 1.293 I figured a little non-native tongued nonsense would help keep this
3603     request near the top of the group. thanks for playing along.
3604 root 1.388 cheers and Haben Sie eine glückliche Karotte
3605 root 1.387 %
3606 root 1.432 00:24 <elmex> ich bin ja nur ein dummer niedersachse, der kaum was in der schule hatte
3607 root 1.387 %
3608 root 1.291 War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. -Ambrose Bierce
3609 root 1.387 %
3610 root 1.290 98% of the time I am right. Why worry about the other 3%.
3611 root 1.387 %
3612 root 1.289 [Bertram van Munster, Jerry Bruckheimers partner, interviewed in the BBC
3613     show "Correspondent"]
3614 root 1.288
3615     [...] I do reality television, and I've done this for many many many
3616     years, long before even anybody knew what reality was.
3617    
3618     [so know we know who creates reality now]
3619     %
3620 root 1.287 [from wordnet]
3621     cock sucking, blowjob
3622     => fellatio, fellation
3623     => oral sex, head
3624     => perversion, sexual perversion
3625     => sexual activity, sexual practice, sex, sex activity
3626     => bodily process, body process, bodily function, activity
3627     => organic process, biological process
3628     => process
3629     => phenomenon
3630 root 1.387 %
3631 root 1.286 10:41 <oesi> [0]--(10:40:39)-(root@km)-(~/xxml)-> file tmon.out
3632     10:41 <oesi> tmon.out: ASCII Java program text
3633 root 1.387 %
3634 root 1.285 [SSK@J3GtFnEi8b~ko6mGvvXdrQoZ3D4PAgM,hhWspr43hLbvnrlkwxtDLg/ABC_NoJail/2//]
3635     [slightly edited]
3636     Largest prison population in the world is in the United States of America
3637     (in 2000: 2,071,686 persons, 22% of world prison population), it has more
3638     than double the prison population of Russia or China. What that means is
3639     that in USA 1 out of 143 residents are incarcerated.
3640    
3641     About 88% of USA prison population is male, but female population is
3642     sharply on the rise, and might soon reach that of males, due mostly to new
3643     laws on terrorism and drugs.
3644    
3645     Out of all the black males between 20 and 39, 12% are in custody (anybody
3646     told them about emancipation proclamation?).
3647 root 1.387 %
3648 root 1.284 "Begehe nur nicht den Fehler, Meinung durch Sachverstand zu substituieren."
3649     (PLemken, <bu6o7e$e6v0p$2@ID-31.news.uni-berlin.de>)
3650 root 1.387 %
3651 root 1.283 Mail::Box - 700MB of RSS to open a 30MB mail folder, one half of the
3652 root 1.282 advertised features doesn't work, while the other half is just buggy.
3653 root 1.387 %
3654 root 1.281 A ship is safe in harbor, but that is not what ships are built for.
3655 root 1.432 I learned that some cops lie. This was a brutal and profoundly disturbing
3656     realization: Those in control are not necessarily trustworthy.
3657 root 1.281 - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
3658 root 1.387 %
3659 root 1.279 "parrot - from the people who brought you ithreads"
3660     - oesi
3661 root 1.387 %
3662 root 1.278 [US, Metric]
3663     http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/usmetric.html
3664 root 1.387 %
3665 root 1.432 [http://use.perl.org/~scrottie/journal]
3666 root 1.277 [I agree with that very much, most of his blog is really interesting]
3667 root 1.275 Sunday February 20, 2005 07:18 AM
3668     Minions Wanted [ 0 Comments | #23269 ]
3669    
3670     It's been about 10 years since I've had minions. They've all grown up,
3671     started painfully profitable companies, and now hob-knob whose-who of
3672     important and influential figures of their field. I'm growing old and
3673     increasinly mal-adapted to normal life. It's no longer becoming for me
3674     to leave my lair nor speak on the phone. I've reflected on making this
3675     post, and I've reflected at great length. Minions aren't what they used
3676     to be. Minions now days are soft and weak willed. In the old days, it was
3677     that minions would realize they can wield power if they're willing to
3678     spend a time subserviant to someone capable of teaching. Now days, kids
3679     have this notion that money only comes from the parents, power comes from
3680     your social (gag) circles, and glory comes from the things you own. They
3681     seek answers to Perl questions only for immediate gradification, not to
3682     truly master an insidious tactic and become a potent force. Kids now
3683     days, not nearly robust enough to be considered minion material. They,for
3684     their entire life, questioninglessly slide into being slaves of much
3685     more powerful overlords. They accept as payment for their servatude a
3686     few measily tens of thousands of dollars, and then only paid in payments
3687     yearly, calling that close enough to world domination, and inexchange
3688     for that paultry fee, deliver one after another innocent to the hands of
3689     Bill Gates, telling the clients they betray that Microsoft Windows is a
3690     servicable operating system and a supportable platform. While it is truly
3691     becoming to serve on the side of Microsoft, it is also well known the
3692     ranks are thin at the top but wide at the bottom, and few ever move past
3693     petty explotation of businesses and moronic home users.
3694    
3695     This is not the stock I seek. These so short-sightedly driven by greed,
3696     rather than lusting for true power, amount to little more than orcs - a
3697     fodder of little use except as "consumers" in this modern age. It is far
3698     more becoming to hope to some day aspire to be an overlord of some small
3699     repute yourself and initially forego payment.
3700    
3701     Minions in my service will be expected to endure maindane business-related
3702     tasks, such as answering the phone, but will always be allowed the
3703     basic dignity of being able to tell clients to "fuck off" when
3704     appropriate. Retaining dignity does not relieve the necessities of
3705     subordination, however. My minions may seek clarification but will never
3706     question me. For the term of their indenture, they will accept my teaching
3707     as truth itself. They will not seek short-cuts where I say there are none,
3708     and if I later reveal short-cuts, they will know it was because they were
3709     not yet ready before. While my young troglodytes will doubtless enterain
3710     perversion and drug abuse in their free time, they will go for the want of
3711     the very necessities of life should urgant cause arise.
3712    
3713     In exchange, they will be tutored on the basic elements of evil and Perl
3714     programming and will share in the spoils of an insideous plot I've hatched
3715     some time ago to dupe large numbers of people out of money by playing on
3716     their greed and fear. Of course, in the interest of avoiding indictment
3717     myself, the details of the plot can never be revealed, but a clever
3718     student will quickly ascertain the nature of the ploy. After thier period
3719     of endenture, minions will have developed an eye for exploitation and
3720     trickery, but most importantly will have developed a deeper understanding
3721     of how things work - both in Perl and in the real world. They will see
3722     everything about them as quite potentially theirs - no program must go
3723     unwritten, and persuent to Free Trade Agreements, they will be as a
3724     sovereign nation.
3725    
3726     While the offer is valid, this is a draft for a post on
3727     jobs.perl.org. Feedback is welcome - unless you're stupid, then stay the
3728     hell off my blog. Time and time again I forget both the power of TV to
3729     sap intelligence and the very prevelence of the thing. So let this be a
3730     test: if you watch more than half an hour a day of any programming besides
3731     CSPAN, don't post here.
3732    
3733     -scott
3734 root 1.387 %
3735 root 1.274 But Mike Loughlin, who studied the boiling of lobsters when he was a
3736     University of Maine graduate student, said lobsters simply lack the brain
3737     capacity to feel pain.
3738    
3739     "It's a semantic thing: No brain, no pain," said Loughlin, who now works
3740     as a biologist at the Maine Atlantic Salmon Commission.
3741 root 1.387 %
3742 root 1.273 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp contextual F1 help & Crimson Editor in Windows
3743     From: Sven Neumann
3744    
3745     Hi,
3746    
3747 root 1.388 Rubén de Diego Martínez writes:
3748 root 1.432 > I also think that it's a bug. How may I report-it?
3749 root 1.273
3750     Go to http://support.microsoft.com/support/feedback/ and tell them
3751     that
3752    
3753     ShellExecute (HWND_DESKTOP, "open", uri, NULL, NULL, SW_SHOWNORMAL);
3754    
3755     does not do what you would expect it to do.
3756 root 1.387 %
3757 root 1.271 http://www.syslog.com/~jwilson/pics-i-like/kurios119.jpg
3758 root 1.272 the original comment says:
3759     This is probably part of an elaborate IQ test.
3760     Waiting at the gate means you fail.
3761 root 1.387 %
3762 root 1.271 {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} ich mir eine kolaflasche reingeschioebn
3763     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und dann ist meine klitoris erissen
3764     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} und ich musste ins krankenhaus
3765     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} oh sorry, falsches fenster
3766     {Flat eric:Net-Knuddels} aja
3767     {Net-Knuddels:Flat eric} hi :)
3768 root 1.387 %
3769 root 1.275 [Java, like Delphi, requires manual destruction. Obvious, but still
3770 root 1.270 interesting read]
3771     http://www.octopull.demon.co.uk/java/ImmortalityAtaPrice.html
3772 root 1.387 %
3773 root 1.269 [Obscure Algorithms, just for my reference]
3774     http://aggregate.org/MAGIC/
3775     http://www.hackersdelight.org/HDcode.htm
3776 root 1.387 %
3777 root 1.268 In Los Angeles, the "HOLLYWOOD" sign is protected by a fence and a locked
3778     gate. Because several different agencies need access to the sign for
3779     various purposes, the chain locking the gate is formed by several locks
3780     linked together. Each of the agencies has the key to its own lock, and not
3781     the key to any of the others. Of course, anyone who can open one of the
3782     locks can open the gate.
3783    
3784     This is a nice example of a multiple-user access-control system. It's
3785     simple, and it works. You can also make it as complicated as you want,
3786     with different locks in parallel and in series.
3787 root 1.387 %
3788 root 1.267 http://www.crypto.com/papers/safelocks.pdf
3789     Safecracking for the computer scientist
3790 root 1.387 %
3791 root 1.265 Fact: Something that you observe to be true.
3792    
3793     Fact #1: when you drop a hammer, it falls to the ground
3794    
3795     Fact #2: a genetic sequence can change sufficiently to form a new
3796     species. Speciation has been observed more than once in the laboratory
3797     and in the wild, so this is a fact. Since we call this process
3798     'evolution', that means evolution is a fact. Keep reading for more
3799     explanation of this.
3800    
3801     Theory: An explanation of an observation
3802    
3803     Theory #1: The theory of gravity is understood as a curvature in space,
3804     which explains why the hammer falls.
3805    
3806     Theory #2: The Theory of Evolution through Natural Selection explains
3807     how a population's genome can change over time.
3808    
3809 root 1.266 Law: Not really related to any of the other definitions. It's just a
3810     mathematical relationship between two values.
3811 root 1.265
3812     Law #1: If you double the distance from a source of light, the
3813     brightness falls off proportionally to the square of the distance.
3814    
3815     Law #2: (expressed as a formula) F=ma. Force equals mass times
3816     acceleration.
3817    
3818     Please note that Evolution is a fact, and the theory is called the Theory
3819     of Evolution through Natural Selection. There are other theories of
3820     evolution, which have been disproved. A famous one is the theory of
3821     evolution through acquired characteristics, also known as Lamarkian
3822     evolution. It posited that species evolve by acquiring and retaining
3823     useful characteristics through use. Therefore, a giraffe would have
3824     longer necks if the previous generations stretched their necks to reach
3825     high leaves. This was the main theory that Darwin and others showed to be
3826     false.
3827    
3828     [by Profane MuthaFucka (574406)]
3829 root 1.387 %
3830 root 1.388 [Aus: Psychologie heute, 10/2003, über einen Artikel von Rentfrow/Gosling,
3831 root 1.264 Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 6/2003]
3832    
3833     Fans von reflexiven und komplexen Musikstilen wie Klassik, Blues, Jazz und
3834     Folk sind offen, tolerant und machen gerne neue Erfahrungen. Sie halten
3835 root 1.388 sich für intelligent - und sind es auch. Außerdem können sie gut mit
3836     Worten umgehen, schätzen das schöne. haben eine starke Vorstellungskraft
3837     und sind politisch liberal eingestellt. Sie sind häufig etwas unsportlich
3838 root 1.264 und wollen andere nicht dominieren.
3839    
3840 root 1.388 Anhänger von intensiven und rebellischen Musikrichtungen wie Heavy Metal,
3841     Rock und alternativer Musik sind offen für Experimente. Sie halten sich
3842     außerdem für intelligent, eloquent und sportlich. Obwohl die Musik, die
3843     sie bevorzugen, vorwiegend negatives ausdrückt, scheint dies nicht auf
3844     sie abzufärben: Sie sind weder neurotischer noch unverträglicher als die
3845     Fans anderer Musikrichtungen. Darüber hinaus sind sie wissensdurstig,
3846     risikobereit und körperlich aktiv.
3847 root 1.264
3848     Beschwingt und konventionell. So bezeichnen Rentfrow und Gosling
3849 root 1.388 Popsongs und Schmusehits, Countrymusik, Filmmusik und religiöse Musik
3850     (Spirituals, Gospels, Kirchenlieder). Wer diese Musik gerne hört, ist ein
3851     umgänglicher Zeitgenosse: Er geht gern aus sich heraus, ist verträglich,
3852     fröhlich, zuverlässig, hilfsbereit und gewissenhaft. Seine Einstellungen
3853 root 1.264 sind eher konservativ, Beredesamkeit und Offenheit sind nicht seine
3854 root 1.388 Stärken. Dafür hält er sich aber für attraktiv und vor allem für
3855 root 1.264 sportlich.
3856    
3857 root 1.388 Wer sich für energetische und rhythmische Musik begeistern kann (Rap,
3858     Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, Electronica) trägt sein Herz auf der Zunge. Er
3859     ist umgänglich, quirlig, liberal eingestellt, extravertiert und ein
3860     wenig eitel: Er hält sich für attraktiv und sportlich. Konservatives
3861     Gedankengut und Dominanz über andere liegen ihm hingegen fern.
3862 root 1.264
3863 root 1.388 Die besten verbalen Fähigkeiten haben die Angehörigen der ersten beiden
3864 root 1.264 Gruppen. Am wenigsten beredt ist die dritte Gruppe. An analytischem
3865 root 1.388 Verstand mangelt es vor allen den Musikhörern der vierten Gruppe.
3866     während die erste Gruppe, gefolgt von der zweiten, am meisten davon
3867 root 1.264 vorzuweisen hat.
3868    
3869     "Die intelligenteste Gruppe bevorzugt die komplexeste Musik", sagen die
3870     Forscher.
3871 root 1.387 %
3872 root 1.263 [Very well-written article on the legal foundazion of licensing, and
3873     the extreme difference in what a free software license does vs. a
3874     EULA-style license]
3875 root 1.262 http://www.opencores.org/forums.cgi/cores/2005/01/001453
3876 root 1.387 %
3877 root 1.261 The Pirate Bay is a BitTorrent tracking site in Sweden with 150,000 users
3878     a day. In the fall, it posted a torrent for Shrek 2. Dreamworks sent a
3879     cease-and-desist letter demanding the site remove it. One of the site's
3880     pseudonymous owners, Anakata, replied: "As you may or may not be aware,
3881     Sweden is not a state in the United States of America. Sweden is a country
3882     in northern Europe [and] US law does not apply here. ... It is the opinion
3883     of us and our lawyers that you are fucking morons." Shrek 2 stayed up.
3884 root 1.387 %
3885 root 1.260 Java is, in many ways, C++--. (Michael Feldman)
3886 root 1.387 %
3887 root 1.259 [Happy New Year]
3888     23:42 -!- zaphod [jkneer@fatboy.laendle] has quit [Quit: Hochhaus]
3889     Day changed to 01 Jan 2005
3890     00:24 <schmorp> re
3891 root 1.387 %
3892 root 1.258 [http://www.calsky.com/lexikon/de/txt/f/fe/fehlschluss.php]
3893 root 1.388 Im besten Fall kann die Verknüpfung zweier Tatsachen Verdachtsmomente
3894     liefern, die mit wissenschaftlichen Methoden abgeklärt werden
3895 root 1.258 sollen. Was eine wissenschaftliche Methode ist, ist Gegenstand anderer
3896     wissenschaftlicher Untersuchungen.
3897 root 1.387 %
3898 root 1.257 [funny page(s), although I think it's sad that people trying to "debunk"
3899     bad science theories are prone to the same logical fallacies as the
3900     proponents of such theories.]
3901     http://www.xs4all.nl/~mke/Planet-X.htm
3902     "On the Internet, there's a picture circulating that's supposedly `secret
3903     evidence' from Russia, proving Planet X is an inhabited world. The makers
3904     took the original photo (top left), enlarged it, and upgraded it with
3905     `solarize' and `find edges'. And look... Suddenly, you see all kinds of
3906     spaceships orbiting the planet! (top right) I followed exactly the same
3907     procedure, using a photo of one Robert Bridson, math student at Stanford
3908     University (below, left). After enlarging and solarizing the photograph,
3909     it became clear that mr. Bridsons left ear actually is inhabited by
3910     intelligent beings, since there clearly is a spaceship taking off from it
3911     (below, right)."
3912 root 1.387 %
3913 root 1.256 [wonderful info...]
3914     http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/
3915     [useful info...]
3916     http://www.snopes.com/
3917 root 1.387 %
3918 root 1.253 Computer analyst to programmer:
3919     "You start coding. I'll go find out what they want."
3920 root 1.387 %
3921 root 1.252 [Fun!]
3922     http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
3923 root 1.387 %
3924 root 1.388 [Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 11/2004, über Informationstransport im All]
3925 root 1.251 "Wenn unsere Vettern im Kosmos wirklich intelligent sind, werden ihre
3926     Computer sicher nicht mit Microsoft-Betriebssystemen ausgestattet sein."
3927 root 1.387 %
3928 root 1.250 [in our continued series, "solaris source code", today, /bin/true]
3929     ddev5:~$ cat /bin/true
3930     #!/usr/bin/sh
3931     # Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
3932     # All Rights Reserved
3933    
3934     # THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
3935     # The copyright notice above does not evidence any
3936     # actual or intended publication of such source code.
3937    
3938     #ident "@(#)true.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.4 */
3939 root 1.432 ddev5:~$
3940 root 1.387 %
3941 root 1.249 22:07 <elmex> schmorp: naja, es beweist das das konzept von java nicht funktioniert
3942     22:07 <schmorp> elmex: welches konzept?
3943     22:07 <elmex> das "hack dir die beine ab, und lauf nen marathon"-konzept ;)
3944 root 1.387 %
3945 root 1.248 [Gtk2/Makefile.PL]
3946     # win32 does not allow unresolved symbols in libraries, but
3947     # Gtk2 uses on symbols in the dll created for Glib.
3948     # so, we have to break all this nice abstraction and encapsulation
3949     # and find the actual Glib.dll and Glib.lib installed by perl when
3950     # the Glib module was built, and add it to the list of lib files.
3951     #
3952     # say it with me: "i hate win32."
3953 root 1.387 %
3954 root 1.388 Immerhin meint die Filmförderungsanstalt, im Jahr 2002 seien 59
3955 root 1.247 Millionen CD-Rohlinge von 5,9 Millionen Nutzern mit Filmen bespielt
3956     worden, im Durchschnitt also zwo:lf Rohlinge pro Anwender.
3957     -- <http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/see-08.04.03-000/>
3958 root 1.387 %
3959 root 1.246 http://otierney.net/images/perl6.gif
3960 root 1.387 %
3961 root 1.245 [http://www.kinderschaender.de/begriff.htm]
3962 root 1.388 Das einzige, was die Seite wirklich gezeigt hat, ist, daß es kaum Menschen
3963     gibt, die weiter denken als ein Schwein scheißt.
3964 root 1.387 %
3965 root 1.244 http://www.paulgraham.com/fix.html
3966     [I'd say ALL the essays on http://www.paulgraham.com/articles.html
3967     are readable, and in most cases I wholeheartedly agree with them.]
3968 root 1.387 %
3969 root 1.243 http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/security_report_windows_vs_linux/
3970 root 1.387 %
3971 root 1.243 [From: CRYPTO-GRAM]
3972     Bill Gates points out that all those IE security holes have not been
3973     Microsoft's fault. (The first step towards recovery is recognizing
3974     that you have a problem.)
3975     <http://slashdot.org/articles/04/10/15/015239.shtml?tid=109&tid=1>
3976 root 1.387 %
3977 root 1.242 [top output on redhat9, with one real-time priority process]
3978     PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME CPU COMMAND
3979 root 1.247 25788 root 18446744073709551565 0 10076 9.8M 2816 S 0.9 1.9 0:01
3980 root 1.242 26064 root 21 0 1508 1508 1184 S 0.3 0.2 0:00 0 curl
3981    
3982     [I am continually amazed at how redhat is able to break utilities that worked
3983     and work on other distributions without flaws again and again and again...]
3984 root 1.387 %
3985 root 1.241 That depends. There is C++ and there is C++. There are many different
3986     sorts of C++, I'll talk about 2 of them:
3987    
3988     Category 1 code is 'C with classes and on-the-fly variable
3989     declarations'. It uses macros, bad encapsulation, no const-correctness,
3990     etc. Category 1 code tends to either use object oriented programing
3991     exclusively, or use it combined with procedural programming. Other
3992     programming paradigms are extremely rare. It often uses non-portable hacks
3993     because Standard-knowledge is scarce among category 1 coders. Category 1
3994     code is seen mostly in Flipcode and Gamedev.net articles and forums. Also
3995     it is seen in almost every API ever developed by Microsoft. A slightly
3996     less bad version of category 1 code is seen in libraries that call
3997     themselves "high-quality C++ libraries" but that don't even use a single
3998     namespace and rely heavily on macros and other unsafe preprocessing
3999     techniques where this is totally unnecessary. Most of those libraries are
4000     that way because they were started before the 1998 C++ Standard's stuff
4001     got implemented in main-stream compilers.
4002    
4003     Category 2 code is what I'd like to see as the meaning of the term
4004     "C++ code". It is Standard-compliant, uses multiple programming
4005     paradigms and is pushing the language to the max (and beyond ;) to
4006     create easy to use, efficient, highly-reusable and easy to extend
4007     programs/libraries/modules/etc. Unfortunately, category 2 code is
4008     hard to write when you have to work with incompetent compilers like
4009     MSVC6/7. Category 2 code is mostly seen in:
4010 root 1.387 %
4011 root 1.240 [On "Main Loop with Fixed Time Steps", a Windows programmer commented:]
4012 root 1.239
4013     Just to point out, With a tick being a maximum of FFFFFFFFh, you *only*
4014     have about 49 days of tick time since the system has started! Though I
4015     doubt any game or even system runs for that long.
4016 root 1.387 %
4017 root 1.238 [http://www.paulgraham.com/popular.html]
4018     "The best writing is rewriting," wrote E. B. White. Every good writer
4019     knows this, and it's true for software too.
4020 root 1.387 %
4021 root 1.237 > think it needs the Ultimate Refactor..."rm -rf programs/Xserver/GL"
4022    
4023     ... and I was told "rm -rf" means "read mail, really fast!"
4024     ;)
4025 root 1.387 %
4026 root 1.235 [this is not a blogggggg]
4027     One fine day, I removed the "video=matrox:off" from my kernel commandline,
4028     having removed the matrox card from my machine months ago. Promptly, the
4029     proprietary nvidia driver greeted me with:
4030    
4031     NVIDIA: Failed to map framebuffer memors
4032    
4033 root 1.236 Adding the video option back made it work again. No, I do not have any
4034     framebuffer devices compiled into the kernel, either...
4035 root 1.387 %
4036 root 1.234 [taken out of a public mail by a journalist... I have never seen anybody
4037     using so many abbreviations...]
4038    
4039     Hi Volker -
4040    
4041     alles klar ..!? Bin mit dem Buch i. Stretch .. Lektorat / Korrektorat
4042 root 1.388 Architekturbuch ... wie üblich, kennst das ja wahrsch. auch ... alles zu
4043     spät ...
4044 root 1.234
4045     Dann gehts direktemang in die Ferien (2 Wochen Gomera ab komm. SA ...)
4046    
4047     Ja, und dann find ich doch Volker ganz Massiv im Briefkasten a. SA ..
4048    
4049 root 1.388 schönes Foto von dir ... 1 Seite .. 2 seiten Interview, m. Fortsetzung im
4050     nächsten Heft ..!!! (äusserst rar b. nem Interview ...)
4051 root 1.234
4052 root 1.388 herzliche Grüsse
4053 root 1.234
4054     tom
4055 root 1.247
4056 root 1.234 PS: Mein Wissenschtf.Kollege und Filmemacher ist der Meinung, dass das Thema
4057 root 1.388 'Copyrights, Commons, Freedom' etc ...spannend wäre, aber schlecht fürs TV
4058 root 1.234 ... Du kannst prakt. nichts mehr themat. Anspruchsvolles machen ... auch b.
4059 root 1.388 Arte war irgend nen Problem (fällt mir auf d. Schnelle nicht mehr ein ...
4060 root 1.234 schon ein paar Wochen her ...)
4061 root 1.387 %
4062 root 1.233 From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
4063     Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4
4064     Message-ID: <20040826183838.GE2793@holomorphy.com>
4065    
4066     On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 02:02:29AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
4067 root 1.247 > How old are you? I thought you were the guy at Linux Tag with fashion
4068     > oriented hair who gave a talk on his XFS work? Did I confuse you with
4069 root 1.233 > someone else?
4070    
4071     Index: mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS
4072     ===================================================================
4073     --- mm1-2.6.9-rc1.orig/CREDITS 2004-08-26 10:37:57.424567967 -0700
4074     +++ mm1-2.6.9-rc1/CREDITS 2004-08-26 11:35:24.977260109 -0700
4075     @@ -2677,6 +2677,14 @@
4076     S: 79098 Freiburg
4077     S: Germany
4078    
4079     +N: Hans Reiser
4080     +E: reiser@namesys.com
4081     +W: http://www.namesys.com/
4082     +D: official Linux kernel hairstyle critic
4083     +S: 6979 Exeter Dr
4084     +S: Oakland, CA 94611
4085     +S: USA
4086     +
4087     N: Joerg Reuter
4088     E: jreuter@yaina.de
4089     W: http://yaina.de/jreuter/
4090 root 1.387 %
4091 root 1.232 Partial lynx-output for mail sent by "T-Online Vertragsbrief":
4092     [poeppel_magenta.gif]
4093 root 1.387 %
4094 root 1.231 [http://www.dark-skies.org/theproblems.html#security]
4095     Better ligthing does not affect crime rates
4096 root 1.387 %
4097 root 1.230 [http://www.immunitysec.com/downloads/tc0.pdf]
4098     Label: "Difficulty of owning Windows vs. Difficulty to make this graph"
4099 root 1.387 %
4100 root 1.229 [rxvt-unicode (mine! :) vs. gnome-terminal :)]
4101     [http://bugs.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137864]
4102     [...]
4103     Upgrading to major: the first person to fix this (fix = performance is
4104     within a factor of 2 of rxvt-unicode for all four of the tests here) gets
4105     $50 from me, or an expensive dinner + all the beer they can handle if they
4106     ever visit Sydney, Australia ;)
4107     [...]
4108     Tagging this critical+urgent. How dare I, you ask? Doubling the reward -
4109     $100 if this is fixed (see above) before September 1, 2004. $0 after that
4110     (and I'll return it to a normal bug ;) If anyone else wants to contribute
4111     to whoever ends up fixing this, please join in..
4112 root 1.387 %
4113 root 1.228 [SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301268,00.html]
4114     [SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM%2ced-XX1sNy0yR7p%7eQMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/0,1518,druck-301538,00.html]
4115     Dass die Flimmerkiste ein beliebiges "Nullmedium" sei, beklagen
4116     Kulturkritiker von jeher. Doch nun zeigt selbst ein unvoreingenommener
4117     Blick aufs TV-Programm: Die Quote ist heilig, das Niveau sinkt auf breiter
4118     Front - auch bei ARD und ZDF. Verdummt die Na
4119 root 1.387 %
4120 root 1.226 [SSK@goHdpeHC2XTrpDXZIbgvdJMz5XsPAgM,ed-XX1sNy0yR7p~QMmjeAA/Treibholz/1//Texte/brainleak%202004-03-02.html]
4121 root 1.227 [...] Tech savvy people will be inclining towards clicking the cancel
4122     button by default whenever they are presented a question which they don't
4123     fully understand, or didn't expect to see. Regular computer users will
4124     be inclined to press the Ok button instead, because they fear that by
4125     clicking cancel they might be causing something they don't understand not
4126     to work, something that they probably won't be able to fix afterwards
4127     anyway. If a geek fucks up somehow, he'll know what to do to fix it
4128     anyway, so there's no harm done clicking cancel. [...]
4129 root 1.387 %
4130 root 1.223 [http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/00/10/marienbad.html]
4131     I once had a postmodern intertextual moment at a drugstore bookrack when I
4132 root 1.224 picked up a paperback with the following title: Bram Stoker's Dracula:
4133 root 1.223 A Novelization Based on the Original Screenplay.
4134 root 1.387 %
4135 root 1.222 [bts show 215647]
4136     [yes, the whole thing]
4137 root 1.387 %
4138 root 1.221 [bts show 254316]
4139 root 1.247 > > The problem is not in luit, it's not in XTerm, it's not even in termcap;
4140     > > it's in the morass of complexity that some mindless jerk who'll be first
4141     > > against the wall when the revolution comes standardised as ISO 2022.
4142 root 1.221 >
4143     > ( google suggests 2022 has many fans ;-)
4144    
4145     We'll use a larger wall.
4146 root 1.387 %
4147 root 1.220 [Maedhros35 about "Clockwork Orange" on IMDB]
4148     This is a movie I would not recommend even to my worst enemy. It is a
4149     horrible picture, containing too much random violence and rape committed
4150     by four no-goods in white pyjamas, than is good for anyone too watch.
4151    
4152     The only fun moment is when the main character, being brainwashed into a
4153     non-violent state of mind, is being bashed by his former friends.
4154    
4155     There may be some "hidden message" in this movie about society and blah,
4156     but the message (not too well brought) is completely drowned.
4157    
4158     It is not even a waste of your time, it is worse than that. Avoid at all
4159     cost.
4160     ["too much violence" but "the only fun moment".... What the...!?]
4161 root 1.387 %
4162 root 1.219 When searching on google for:
4163    
4164 root 1.225 kakerlake schabe made
4165 root 1.219
4166     Google asked me wether I instead wanted to look for:
4167    
4168 root 1.225 kakerlake _schwabe_ made
4169 root 1.387 %
4170 root 1.218 What we learned this week;
4171     "Hell is a bad place to be and renders with 8-12fps"
4172 root 1.387 %
4173 root 1.216 "Britain is one of only three countries in the world (the others are
4174     Germany and Egypt) enduring stricter censorship today than 25years ago"
4175 root 1.387 %
4176 root 1.215 [translated]
4177     23:07 <schmorp> libtool is soo broken
4178     23:07 <schmorp> ./libtool gcc-3.4 ...
4179     23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
4180     23:07 <schmorp> libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
4181     23:07 <schmorp> ...
4182     23:07 <schmorp> libtool --tag=ulubulu
4183     23:07 <schmorp> libtool: ignoring unknown tag ulubulu
4184     23:07 <schmorp> and it works
4185 root 1.387 %
4186 root 1.214 History does not repeat itself. Historians repeat each other.
4187     -- Lord Balfour
4188 root 1.387 %
4189 root 1.213 The whole of Mozilla is just one big focus bug.
4190 root 1.387 %
4191 root 1.212 <Beerman> When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then
4192     I realised that The Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked
4193     him to forgive me.
4194 root 1.387 %
4195 root 1.211 [slashdot]
4196     > there are currently no active, reliable ways to obtain the program listings for New Zealand television
4197    
4198     I have been to NZ. You have no television.
4199 root 1.387 %
4200 root 1.210 [IMDB user about "What?" by Roman Polanski]
4201     "What?" fills the gap for those who get a kick out of 70's porn plots, but
4202     get bored during the sex scenes.
4203 root 1.387 %
4204 root 1.209 I say to you that the VCR is to the ... American public as the Boston
4205     strangler is to the woman home alone.
4206     - Jack Valenti (CEO, MPAA)
4207 root 1.387 %
4208 root 1.208 [Bruce Schneier]
4209     SP2 is an important security upgrade to Windows XP, and I hope it is
4210     widely installed among licensed XP users. I also hope it is quickly
4211     pirated, so unlicensed XP users can also install it. In order for me
4212     to remain secure on the Internet, I need everyone to become more
4213     secure. And the more people who install SP2, the more we all benefit.
4214 root 1.387 %
4215 root 1.207 [From Paul Eggert]
4216     [...] Worse, HP-UX asctime rejects any tm_year that is negative; this
4217     violates the C standard, but HP won't take my bug reports since I'm not a
4218     HP-UX customer. [...]
4219 root 1.387 %
4220 root 1.206 >>>Just curious, If I recall correctly, didn't Forth used to be FORTH?
4221     >>
4222     >>Since FORTH is not an acronym (the way BASIC, LISP, FORTRAN and C are)
4223     >>but a (deliberate) misspelling of "fourth", when it became possible to
4224     >>use LC the fashion became to do so. My book, "Scientific FORTH" (1992)
4225     >>spelled it in UC.
4226 root 1.247 >
4227     >
4228 root 1.206 > BASIC, LISP and FORTRAN are acronyms. C isn't.
4229    
4230     C isn't all caps, just the initial letter.
4231 root 1.387 %
4232 root 1.205 [comp.lang.c]
4233     > According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language
4234    
4235     I'm sorry, but that's like quoting Bjarne Stroustrup on correct ISO C
4236     usage.
4237    
4238     Richard
4239 root 1.387 %
4240 root 1.204 I remember Elwyn Berlekamp describing what goes on at computer go
4241     tournaments (where computer programs play go against each other) - unlike
4242     at computer chess tournaments where the programs far surpass their
4243     creators, at go tournaments the creators sit there and look at a game in
4244     play and say things to each other like, "Gosh, I wonder if my program will
4245     repair that weakness before your program notices it."
4246 root 1.387 %
4247 root 1.203 21:40 <oesi> sansho: du bist kindisch. :)
4248     21:40 <sansho> oesi: das hab ich mir von dir abgeguckt
4249 root 1.387 %
4250 root 1.202 MarkD [-]: The trouble with political jokes is that some of them get elected
4251 root 1.387 %
4252 root 1.201 A coherent understanding of Philosophy will convince you that you are
4253     competent to understand the universe and achieve the human values that
4254     make life meaningful. You will know when you know something and when you
4255     don't, when you understand something and when you don't, and why. You
4256     will also realize why morality and ethics are too important to be left to
4257     anyone but yourself. You will learn that there are no shortcuts to truth,
4258     no authorities you can follow blindly, and perhaps most important, that
4259     nothing at all exists except reality. In sum, you will know what human
4260     existence means and implies.
4261    
4262     [Introduction to Philosophy, Joel Katz]
4263 root 1.387 %
4264 root 1.201 > > Casts from void* are necessary in C++, not in C.
4265     >
4266     > I am aware... I'm fishing for more info! Perhaps if I reposted again and
4267     > said you were wrong I'll get more...
4268     >
4269     > You're WRONG!
4270    
4271 root 1.388 void* is implicitly converted to the destination pointer type (C99 §6.3.2.3
4272     and §7.20.3.1).
4273 root 1.387 %
4274 root 1.200 From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu>
4275     In the DOS days, I had a scattering of students who really
4276     knew about computers. In the XP days, I have none.
4277 root 1.387 %
4278 root 1.199 [another variation, more useful]
4279     A. It should be obvious.
4280     Q. How is it hard?
4281     A. Because it makes it hard to follow conversations.
4282     Q. Why is top-posting bad?
4283 root 1.387 %
4284 root 1.198 [windows is a good place to learn programming]
4285     Subject: Linux c prog doesn't work on Sun Solaris Machine....?
4286    
4287     Compiled using g++ on linux and then I tried to execute it on Solaris.
4288     The error message was something like "can't execute a.out"
4289    
4290     - works ok on linux
4291     - ran chmod so Sun user has execute/read/etc permissions. chmod u=rwx
4292    
4293     Any clues why?
4294     I am new to the non windows world.
4295    
4296     Thanks
4297 root 1.387 %
4298 root 1.197 [comp.lang.c]
4299     > I want to write some data on the EEPROM of a PIC 16F877 microcontroller via
4300     > serial port rs232. What library can I use with a gcc compiler to perform
4301     > this ?
4302    
4303     This is not a C question. Please try asking again in comp.arch.embedded where
4304     we will advise you to use an 8051, AVR, or MSP430 instead of the PIC.
4305 root 1.387 %
4306 root 1.196 [comp.std.c]
4307     In message <c4k0mj$fmp$1@sunnews.cern.ch>
4308     Dan.Pop@cern.ch (Dan Pop) wrote:
4309    
4310     > In <nfa0k1-03l.ln1@jones.homeip.net> lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com writes:
4311 root 1.247 >
4312     > >The text of the standard only yields one reasonable interpretation.
4313     >
4314 root 1.196 > Yup, mine!
4315 root 1.387 %
4316 root 1.195 [links-2.1pre13 ChangeLog]
4317     Thu Oct 9 16:44:10 GMT 2003 mikulas:
4318    
4319     Do not print 1000l on FreeBSD console on exit
4320 root 1.387 %
4321 root 1.194 [an old question, revisited]
4322     http://www.style.org/unladenswallow/
4323 root 1.387 %
4324 root 1.194 [comp.lang.c]
4325 root 1.247 > can any one translate the following codes into c++ codes,
4326 root 1.194
4327     This is comp.lang.c. We do C, not C++. We do not translate C into
4328     obfuscated languages. The good news is that your code already _is_ C++.
4329 root 1.387 %
4330 root 1.194 [comp.lang.c]
4331     I didn't say he was incorrect. I said he was an idiot.
4332 root 1.387 %
4333 root 1.193 according to babelfish "glibber" in german means "more glibber" in english :-)
4334 root 1.387 %
4335 root 1.192 [Debian Bug #163625 features one of my favourite bug report subjects:]
4336     Installing additional mozilla Debian packages
4337 root 1.247 deletes additionally installed mozilla packages
4338 root 1.387 %
4339 root 1.388 [Aus einer Werbung für dne "Windows-Berater". Es ist erschreckend, zeigt
4340     aber, das manche Maßnahmen von Microsoft völlig irreführenderweise als
4341     Sicherheitsmaßnahme verstanden und dargestellt werden. Ich frage mich, wie
4342 root 1.190 DRM in Zukunft aufgenommen und beworben werden wird...]
4343    
4344 root 1.388 "Kaum angekündigt, schon ist der Registrierungsschutz geknackt"
4345 root 1.190
4346 root 1.388 Das neue Windows XP lässt sich nur mit einem besonderen Registrierungscode
4347 root 1.190 dauerhaft betreiben. Besorgt sich der Anwender diese Lizenz nicht,
4348     wird das System gesperrt. Damit sollen Raubkopien und unerlaubte
4349     Mehrfachnutzung verhindert werden. Kaum vorgestellt, knacken Hacker
4350 root 1.388 diese Verschlüsselung schon. Checklisten zeigen Ihnen, wie dieser Klau
4351     abläuft. Damit Sie sich und Ihr System vor ungebetenen Zugriffen und Viren
4352     schützen können.
4353 root 1.387 %
4354 root 1.189 [Reiner Gamma]
4355     http://www.geocities.com/kc5lei/SWIRL2001.htm
4356 root 1.387 %
4357 root 1.188 >> Asshole keep you shit out of alt.binaries.games.adult until you read
4358     [...]
4359 root 1.187 >Dude, thisi is not "alt.binaries.games.adult".
4360 root 1.188 [...]
4361 root 1.187 Yes, it is. Or, it was, till your post cut the crosspost. It was
4362     crossposted to several groups and the person you're replying to will
4363     never get your message.
4364 root 1.387 %
4365 root 1.186 [http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/doc/Details.html.pl]
4366     As this project will always run unknown binary code of proprietary W32
4367     filesystem drivers, the code can never be trusted.
4368 root 1.387 %
4369 root 1.185 [http://www.hello-penguin.com/gtm-perl/doc/Perl.html]
4370     (look at the BUGS section... very funny to read, btw., it's
4371     a sourceforge project called GT.M).
4372 root 1.387 %
4373 root 1.184 bigger things. We\\\\\\\'d be using C + asm and Hax
4374     01:15 <Sesse> we all the backslashes?
4375     01:15 <schmorp> no idea, i have these in some of my descriptions, too
4376     01:15 <schmorp> it seems that sourceofrge does " -> \" on every deascription change
4377     01:15 <Sesse> sounds like php
4378     01:15 <schmorp> i guess it's written in php
4379     01:15 <schmorp> *g*
4380     01:15 <Sesse> :-D
4381 root 1.387 %
4382 root 1.183 http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/
4383     [...] At the beginning I didn't expect that I would actually succeed,
4384     since I thought I would need almost half of that just for the headers. I
4385     think my first cut was 458 bytes in size. I was quite pleased with myself
4386     when I trimmed that down to less than 300 bytes, ecstatic when I finally
4387     reached the 255-byte goal, and downright triumphant when I later got it to
4388     work in 238 bytes. By the time I had a 198-byte version, I was just plain
4389     dumbfounded. It's now at 171 bytes. [...]
4390 root 1.387 %
4391 root 1.182 [http://www.mindspring.com/~kimall/Japanese/polite.html]
4392     [...] Americans didn't invent English (although the Brits will happily
4393     disown our mangled version of it! :-) ) [...]
4394 root 1.387 %
4395 root 1.181 [Eugene Spafford]
4396     During the heights of some of the recent viruses, I was discarding 30Mb of
4397     email per day -- all of it viruses. And I should point out -- viruses for
4398     Windows. There have been something like 100,000 viruses for MS operating
4399     systems, only about 50 for the Mac, and about 3 for commercial Unix
4400     systems. That difference isn't because of a difference in the prevalence
4401     of the machines -- there are basic architectural differences.
4402 root 1.387 %
4403 root 1.180 [http://MarginalHacks.com/]
4404     If you can't vi it, it sucks.
4405 root 1.387 %
4406 root 1.180 [from the somewhat outdated xterm-faq]
4407     GNOME TERMINAL
4408     [...]
4409     The documentation is fragmentary (with a comment suggesting that the
4410     author does not know where to find relevant information), and the program
4411     fares badly with vttest. [...] But it suffices for vi.
4412     [.. later]
4413     There is a variation of xvt (ancestor of rxvt) originally known as kvt
4414     bundled with KDE which may be referred to as "kterm", but I do not find it
4415     interesting, other than to comment that it was a poor choice of name.
4416 root 1.387 %
4417 root 1.179 [I *love* X programs]
4418     [xc/programs/xprop/xprop.c]
4419     /*
4420 root 1.247 * blip: a debugging routine. Prints Blip! on stderr with flushing.
4421 root 1.179 */
4422     void blip()
4423 root 1.247 {
4424 root 1.179 fflush(stdout);
4425     fprintf(stderr, "blip!\n");
4426     fflush(stderr);
4427 root 1.247 }
4428 root 1.387 %
4429 root 1.178 [pavel machek commenting on a proposed patch]
4430     + int alternative_order = 999;
4431    
4432     Why not 666? :-).
4433 root 1.387 %
4434 root 1.178 [yosh on gimp-developer]
4435     It's also better to research your suggestions a little, so that they don't
4436     sound completely out there, thereby reinforcing the viewpoint that Windows
4437     users are clueless.
4438 root 1.387 %
4439 root 1.177 [modularity makes unix systems more secure]
4440     http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/36029.html
4441 root 1.387 %
4442 root 1.176 [beware german translations]
4443     dpkg: Warnung - ignoriere Kollision, kann sowieso weitermachen!
4444 root 1.387 %
4445 root 1.175 [http://www.cypherspace.org/adam/hacks/lotus-nsa-key.html, look around there]
4446     NSA's Backdoor Key from Lotus-Notes
4447 root 1.387 %
4448 root 1.174 The word "ampersand" is an alteration of the phrase "et, per se and" (that
4449     is: "et by itself [means] and"), which became corrupted to "and, per se
4450     and", and finally, ampersand.
4451 root 1.387 %
4452 root 1.173 [xc/lib/X11/lcUTF8.c]
4453     [...] We distinguish three classes of clients: [1st] [...] [2nd] Clients
4454     which accept CompoundText with multiple character sets and parse it
4455     themselves. (Example: emacs, xemacs.) [3rd] [...] In a distant future,
4456     when clients of the first and second kind will have disappeared, [...]
4457 root 1.387 %
4458 root 1.171 [linux-2.6/drivers/md/Kconfig]
4459     WARNING: RAID-6 is currently highly experimental. If you
4460     use it, there is no guarantee whatsoever that it won't
4461     destroy your data, eat your disk drives, insult your mother,
4462     or re-appoint George W. Bush.
4463 root 1.387 %
4464 root 1.170 [http://www.herodios.com/herron_tc/atsign.html]
4465     Many Finnish terms for @ are connected with cats. Not content with naming
4466     the sign for what it looks like, Finnish names it for what it looks like
4467     sounds like. In addition to "kissanhnta [cat's tail], "miau," "miumau,"
4468     and "miuku" are all "miau merkki" [meow marks] in Finnish. Other terms
4469     from Finnish include "apinanhanta" [a monkey's tail], or "hiirenhanta"
4470     [mouse's tail]. Some "computer people" use the English word "at."
4471 root 1.387 %
4472 root 1.247 17:07 <oesi> schmorp: mal ein guter kommentar auf heise zum thema "Bill tourt durch
4473 root 1.388 die USA und kündigt innovative neuentwicklungen an"
4474     17:08 <oesi> Kommentar war: "was hat er angekündigt: drive-letter in unicode?"
4475 root 1.387 %
4476 root 1.168 [Ken Lunde about his copy of KS C 5657-1991:]
4477     Here's another interesting note. My official copy of this
4478     standard has all of its 2,856 hanja hand-written.
4479 root 1.387 %
4480 root 1.172 [cvs, while checking in changes to uunet's radiusd]
4481 root 1.168 confused about file platform.h -- ignoring
4482 root 1.387 %
4483 root 1.167 [http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/02/24/1011245.shtml]
4484 root 1.247 And most likely, the FBI didn't tell the hosting company exactly what it
4485     is they wanted. When the Feds come in with a search warrant, they don't
4486     ask for your help. They say, "stand aside" and commence
4487 root 1.167 %
4488 root 1.166 http://www.bash.org/?178890
4489 root 1.387 %
4490 root 1.165 [http://www.bash.org/?75016]
4491     <ig3l|Guel> If Osama B. isn't in Afghanistan, and if he isn't dead, we believe he is in another country" - US army General
4492 root 1.387 %
4493 root 1.247 00:56 <oesi> ulpfr: ich schrieb mal einen kompletten mailer in emacs, weil mir rmail
4494     nicht gefallen hat. man wird aelter und reifer und droppt dann emacs
4495 root 1.164 einfach :)
4496     00:56 <ulpfr> Weichei
4497 root 1.387 %
4498 root 1.163 [spca50x.sourceforge.net]
4499     /*
4500     * Function compares two strings.
4501 root 1.247 * Return offset in pussy where prick ends if "prick" may penetrate
4502 root 1.163 * int "pussy" like prick into pussy, -1 otherwise.
4503     */
4504     static inline int match(const char* prick, const char* pussy, int len2)
4505     {
4506     int len1 = strlen(prick); //length of male string
4507     [...]
4508 root 1.387 %
4509 root 1.163 http://www.leckse.net/profilieren/chat
4510 root 1.387 %
4511 root 1.388 rohw, schleymig und formlos Fleisch wie di Schleuch eines Tündenfischs
4512 root 1.387 %
4513 root 1.162 [rxvt-*/src/init.[cC]]
4514     /* grab colors before netscape does */
4515     Get_Colours ();
4516 root 1.387 %
4517 root 1.388 [oesi über apache-2.0]
4518 root 1.160 03:10 <oesi> ist mir egal, ich fahre alle 24h den apache runter...
4519     03:10 <oesi> ich fahre praktisch das 1.3er config-file. das gibt sicherheit :)
4520     03:11 <oesi> ich kann apache nicht stoppen.
4521     03:11 <oesi> apachectl stop
4522     03:11 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
4523     03:11 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
4524     03:12 <oesi> wie konnte ich den starten?
4525     03:12 <schmorp> *rofl*
4526 root 1.161 [...]
4527     03:29 <oesi> es ist kein scherz. wirklich:
4528     03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl sslstart
4529     03:29 <oesi> asp:/usr/websys/conf# apachectl stop
4530     03:29 <oesi> Syntax error on line 1222 of /usr/websys/conf/httpd.conf:
4531     03:29 <oesi> Expected </Perl>> but saw </Perl>
4532 root 1.387 %
4533 root 1.159 [http://www.jmarshall.com/tools/cgiproxy/]
4534     [...] Here's a demo (username "free", password "speech") [...]
4535 root 1.387 %
4536 root 1.158 [rxvt/src/screen.C]
4537     #ifdef DEBUG_STRICT
4538 root 1.247 assert(screen.cur.row >= 0);
4539 root 1.158 #else /* drive with your eyes closed */
4540     MAX_IT(screen.cur.row, 0);
4541     #endif
4542 root 1.387 %
4543 root 1.157 [http://www.mine-control.com/zack/timesync/timesync.html]
4544     [...] Also, anecdotal evidence from network programmers suggests that the
4545     UDP implementation under Win32 is unstable and overly-unreliable. [...]
4546 root 1.387 %
4547 root 1.156 > > Ceterum censeo | PGP encrypted mail preferred.
4548     > > Redmond esse delendam. | PGP Key at www.MPA-Garching.MPG.de/~nog/
4549     >
4550     > Willkomme im Club .... :-)))
4551    
4552     Danke - ich bin schon lange dabei... ;-)
4553     --
4554     OpenVMS @ 25 | Martin Vorlaender | VMS & WNT programmer
4555 root 1.387 %
4556 root 1.388 Um die Jahrhundertwende erfand ein Mann namens Friedolin Tär einen
4557     IQ-Test, der die Gesamtpersönlichkeit sehr stark miteinbezog.
4558     Charakterstärke, Grosszügigkeit, flexibles Denken etc. wurden also
4559     mitbewertet. Die Skala mit der Maßeinheit "Tär" wies ein großes Spektrum
4560     auf. Ärzte, Wissenschaftler erreichen IQ's im Megatär-Bereich. Der
4561     Durchschnittsmensch weist einige Kilotär auf. Nach unten gibt es Dezitär,
4562     Centitär... und schießlich Mil(l)itär...
4563 root 1.387 %
4564 root 1.154 http://senseis.xmp.net/?GetStrongAtGote
4565     http://users.skynet.be/rexburton/ritchie.htm
4566 root 1.387 %
4567 root 1.153 Subject: [Swsusp-devel] 2.6.1: It could go faster if I didn't have egg on my face.
4568 root 1.387 %
4569 root 1.153 "It's not Hollywood. War is real, war is primarily not about defeat or
4570     victory, it is about death. I've seen thousands and thousands of dead
4571     bodies. Do you think I want to have an academic debate on this subject?"
4572     -- Robert Fisk
4573 root 1.387 %
4574 root 1.151 [the satellite death spiral: why spacecraft are unnecessarily expensive]
4575     http://www.dynacon.ca/pdf/files/newspdf_63.pdf
4576 root 1.152 [see also the small satellites homepage]
4577     http://centaur.sstl.co.uk/SSHP/
4578 root 1.387 %
4579 root 1.150 [http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/files/lec_lev.htm]
4580     "Anthropologists concur that America is an exceedingly 'low-touch,'
4581     high-violence culture"
4582     [...]
4583     "[...] Republican members of the House of Representatives called for the
4584     resignation of Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders, whose transgression was to
4585     suggest, in response to a question following a speech to sex educators,
4586     that masturbation was an appropriate subject for classroom discussion.
4587     This remark, according to one congressman, was part of a social movement
4588     that was "killing the moral fiber of America" and just one symptom of
4589     a decline also manifested in reckless driving, an indecisive military
4590     policy-dubbed "mission creep," and homosexuals in the Boy Scouts." [...]
4591    
4592     Masturbation is an absolute taboo in the US. Many adults still think that
4593     they are the only ones who do such dirty things.
4594 root 1.387 %
4595 root 1.150 From: <[...]@aol.com>
4596     Subject: Re: [...]
4597    
4598     Marc wrote on 1/7/2004, 6:57 AM:
4599    
4600     > Congrats. No kidding, you are the first person @aol that ever sent me a
4601     > sensible mail. I was planning to reject mail from aol.com right away
4602     > since (in the last 8 years at least), nothing good came from there, but you
4603     > saved it :)
4604    
4605     Yeah, I get that a lot, but you've got to know that .aol.com email
4606     addresses are also used by the people who work for AOL (cough, cough :).
4607     [...]
4608 root 1.387 %
4609 root 1.150 From: Alan Cox
4610     > The code to disable prefetch on Athlon is 300 bytes and hurts your PIV?
4611     > Really? I'll dig back through the code, but I recall it as adding or
4612     > deleting an entry in a table to enable prefetch. If it's affecting PIV the
4613     > code to use prefetch is seriously broken.
4614    
4615     Big time. Its over 300 bytes long because its embedded in each inline
4616     prefetch and it causes a branch misprediction almost every time. Amazing
4617     what you find when you actually measure stuff 8)
4618     [...]
4619 root 1.387 %
4620 root 1.150 http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4621 root 1.387 %
4622 root 1.150 http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4623 root 1.387 %
4624 root 1.150 http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4625 root 1.387 %
4626 root 1.149 [FYI: java was officially announced in 1995, and certainly didn't exist
4627     even as a concept before 1991. It's interesting how many people nowadays
4628     claim to have decades of java experience]
4629     On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:11:54AM -0500, Robert Soros <robert@soros.ca> wrote:
4630     > I am extremely excited about your ideas to fix freenet and would be
4631     > willing to plug your code into fred (I have fourteen years java
4632     > programming experience.) Could you provide a link to your code? What
4633 root 1.387 %
4634 root 1.149 http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mmmgroup/e-oak.html
4635 root 1.387 %
4636 root 1.149 http://www.elonka.com/UnsolvedCodes.html
4637 root 1.387 %
4638 root 1.149 http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030427&mode=classic
4639 root 1.387 %
4640 root 1.147 [in a private discussion about some potential problem that would cause]
4641     [mail not to be delivered]
4642     > > On the other hand, I see the same in some mail from RMS.
4643 root 1.247 >
4644 root 1.147 > Well, just because rms does it does not mean... :)
4645    
4646     My point is that the FSF is unlikely to install something that
4647     bounces RMS's mail, at least, not for long.
4648 root 1.387 %
4649 root 1.147 On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Piers Cawley wrote:
4650    
4651     > David Cantrell <david@cantrell.org.uk> writes:
4652     >
4653     > > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 11:16:52AM -0500, Tommie M. Jones wrote:
4654     > >> Anyone know of any perl software that does resume parsing.
4655     > >
4656     > > I don't *think* anyone has implemented continuations in perl, so I fail
4657     > > to see how you can have resumes. Or are you trying to parse some other
4658     > > language which does support this?
4659     >
4660    
4661     Just because we share a language does not mean we understand each other.
4662    
4663     In America there are two meanings for resume. One being to continue the
4664     other the equivalent of what ya'll call a CV (I think though I've never
4665     heard the term before) In the second definition resume is pronounced with
4666     a short u. I think there is a "`" in the proper spelling of the word but
4667     since Americans are not use to using punctuation in their words (other
4668     than to show ownership and contractions) it is usually loss.
4669 root 1.387 %
4670 root 1.147 echo $package has manual pages available in source form.
4671     echo "However, you don't have nroff, so they're probably useless to you."
4672     --Larry Wall in Configure from the perl distribution
4673 root 1.387 %
4674 root 1.146 AFTER 30 years of "daylight saving" - moving the clocks forward in the
4675     spring and then back again in the autumn - there is still an Abolish
4676     Daylight Saving Committee in New South Wales, Australia.
4677    
4678     Added to the usual claims of such campaigns - for example, that the
4679     extra hour of daylight in the evening in summer fades the curtains - is
4680     a new one from ADSC spokeswoman Judith Hall, of Gunnedah, who told the
4681     Sydney Morning Herald: "No man has the right to choose the time of the
4682     rising and setting of the sun, only God."
4683    
4684     Reader John McCallum, who told us about this, is surprised Hall doesn't
4685     explain why God doesn't simply exercise this choice. When people insist
4686     on moving their clocks forward, He should just move the sunrise forward
4687     and thwart them that way.
4688 root 1.387 %
4689 root 1.146 [Defect Report #205 to ISO-C]
4690     There was a unanimous vote that the feature is ugly, and a good consensus
4691     that its incorporation into the standard at the 11th hour was an
4692     unfortunate decision.
4693 root 1.387 %
4694 root 1.247 02:23 <oesi> Breaking News: SCO stellt per Wahrsager Codeklau in HURD in einem Jahr
4695 root 1.146 fest ;)
4696 root 1.387 %
4697 root 1.146 [http://www.unicode.org/standard/WhatIsUnicode.html]
4698    
4699     Last updated: - Invalid Date
4700 root 1.387 %
4701 root 1.146 http://www.bash.org/?99060
4702 root 1.387 %
4703 root 1.145 [IZ-Buzzword-Bullshit-Bingo]
4704     http://www.l13.de/it/ibbb.html
4705 root 1.387 %
4706 root 1.144 Q: What is the state of the object after its lifetime has ended?
4707    
4708     A: As a well-known software guru[3] once put it, speaking about a
4709     similar code fragment and anthropomorphically referring to the
4710     local object as a "he":
4711    
4712     "He's not pining! He's passed on! This parrot is no more! He
4713     has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker!
4714     He's a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn't
4715     nailed him to the perch he'd be pushing up the daisies! His
4716     metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's
4717     kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down
4718     the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible! THIS IS AN
4719     EX-PARROT!"
4720    
4721     - Dr. M. Python, BMath, MASc, PhD (CompSci)
4722 root 1.387 %
4723 root 1.144 [ach du schande]
4724     "pflichtpfandfrei"
4725 root 1.387 %
4726 root 1.142 [a comment on the demonstrations against bush in london]
4727     The police will shoot you.
4728    
4729     OK, that's not strictly true. The CIA will shoot you. Then the police will
4730     arrest the CIA. Then American troops will invade.
4731    
4732 root 1.247 Just another average day in central London.
4733 root 1.387 %
4734 root 1.141 [this signature gave me a laugh...]
4735     [...]even better is if there is a system function that sends out an arp
4736     reply.
4737    
4738     pls. cc my email address
4739    
4740     tia
4741     pd
4742    
4743    
4744 root 1.247 --
4745 root 1.141 ^X^C
4746     q
4747     quit
4748     :q
4749     ^C
4750     end
4751     x
4752     exit
4753     ZZ
4754     ^D
4755     ?
4756     help
4757     shit
4758     .
4759 root 1.387 %
4760 root 1.140 * muppet also hates bloatus notes. it doesn't need vnc to make it slow.
4761 root 1.387 %
4762 root 1.140 [From the File::Spec manpage on catdir]
4763     Concatenate two or more directory names to form a complete path ending
4764     with a directory. But remove the trailing slash from the resulting string,
4765     because it doesn't look good, isn't necessary and confuses OS2. [...]
4766 root 1.387 %
4767 root 1.140 [I love it]
4768     http://www.swindonweb.com/life/lifemagi0.htm
4769     http://www.armin-grewe.com/holiday/wiltshire/swindon-roundabout.htm
4770 root 1.387 %
4771 root 1.139 "I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they go by."
4772     - Douglas Adams
4773 root 1.387 %
4774 root 1.138 Bill Gates is repeating the mantra that users are to blame for insecure
4775     PCs, in an interview with a Canadian newspaper. This refrain is familiar
4776     to the INQUIRER: Gates said more or less the same thing when he addressed
4777     an Assembly of CEOs in Berlin a few weeks ago.
4778    
4779 root 1.247 The chief software architect (CSA.'.) told IT Business that perfect code
4780     wasn't the answer to security problems, but firewalls and keeping the
4781     software up to date were more important. The problems that have occurred
4782     this year wouldn't have happened if firms and individuals had set up
4783     their software properly.
4784 root 1.138
4785     He also claims in the article that Microsoft has always had security
4786     patches out before the exploits happened. Developers were also to blame
4787     because they didn't understand the application program interfaces, Gates
4788     told the publication.
4789    
4790 root 1.247 And he also claimed that all forms of Unix and Linux have a greater
4791     number of vulnerabilities than Microsoft but don't spread as much because
4792     "they're not as dense" as Windows. Low volume software is hit by
4793     malicious people, high volume software, that is Windows, is hit by people
4794     who want visibility and glory.
4795 root 1.387 %
4796 root 1.137 [In the FAQ for a bootp client:]
4797    
4798     o You are using --server to point to a server which doesn't run a bootp server
4799    
4800     x Try not using it.
4801 root 1.387 %
4802 root 1.136 [http://www.politicalpulpit.com/Luke/LukeArchive0403.htm]
4803     The facts are simple: In Lynn, MA Principal of the Lynn English High
4804     School, Andrew Fila refused to allow teacher of English, Jeremy McKeen,
4805     to show the disputed film in his classes. McKeen had already submitted
4806     Moore's opus to his Department Head, Jane Balesta, for approval which she
4807     had given.
4808    
4809     Said Fila, "I just pulled it. This is not the time nor the place to be
4810     showing something like that. The producer (Moore) is also an anti war
4811     person as well."
4812 root 1.387 %
4813 root 1.136 [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0254686/]
4814 root 1.388 "Ich habe keine Gefühle, merken sie sich das, Walter. Und wenn ich welche
4815     habe, werden sie nie über meine Intelligenz siegen".
4816 root 1.387 %
4817 root 1.388 ["Was ist ein Kopierschutz überhaupt?"]
4818 root 1.135 [http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,270719,00.html]
4819 root 1.134
4820     Damit entspricht Windows der Definition eines illegalen Tools zur Umgehung
4821 root 1.388 des Kopierschutzes und müsste vom Markt genommen werden.
4822 root 1.135 [...]
4823 root 1.134 Das Bundesjustizministerium ist der Auffassung, dass die Frage nur durch
4824 root 1.388 ein Gericht zu klären sei. Das Programm "Windows" kenne man zu wenig.
4825 root 1.135 [...]
4826     Handelt es sich bei Windows also rechtlich um das Abwehren einer Straftat
4827     oder um das illegale Aushebeln eines Kopierschutzverfahrens?
4828 root 1.387 %
4829 root 1.134 http://www.nature.com/nsu/021209/021209-10.html#b1
4830 root 1.387 %
4831 root 1.132 [A document] Written to answer the often asked question about the requirements
4832     on the kernel to get a POSIX compliant thread implementation. And I don't
4833     mean an implementation like this horrible implementation from IBM.
4834     -- Ulrich Drepper
4835 root 1.387 %
4836 root 1.131 GCC generates truly horrible code when no optimization is enabled.
4837     -- Ulrich Drepper
4838 root 1.387 %
4839 root 1.131 Most programmers think that the programs they write are fairly well
4840     written and perform as good as possible. In most cases this is not
4841 root 1.133 correct. -- Ulrich Drepper
4842 root 1.387 %
4843 root 1.130 Even though I cannot accept the rejection of fair use rights by the film
4844     and music industry I cannot endorse piracy.
4845     -- Ulrich Drepper
4846 root 1.387 %
4847 root 1.130 Never say "PIC Code"!. This is duplication.
4848     -- Ulrich Drepper
4849 root 1.387 %
4850 root 1.129 [http://www.ffk.co.at/programme_ffksnetmanager.asp]
4851 root 1.388 Ping und Netsend laufen jetzt über die Windows API, daher schneller und
4852     zuverlässiger
4853 root 1.387 %
4854 root 1.129 [comment from linux/drivers/block/floppy.c]
4855     /*
4856     * 1999/08/13 -- Paul Slootman -- floppy stopped working on Alpha after 24
4857     * days, 6 hours, 32 minutes and 32 seconds (i.e. MAXINT jiffies; ints were
4858     * being used to store jiffies, which are unsigned longs).
4859     */
4860 root 1.387 %
4861 root 1.128 [Microsoft creates a problem and inspires an industry to work around it.
4862     Just Great. Also learn about Microsoft Logic(tm): DLL's save memory, so
4863     you need to use them. But please use your own private versions of all your
4864     dlls so that they aren't shared...]
4865     http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnsetup/html/dlldanger1.asp
4866 root 1.387 %
4867 root 1.128 [http://lorrie.cranor.org/pubs/drm03.html]
4868     Pirating Movies
4869    
4870     [...] The attackers aren't DVD owners making illegal copies and putting
4871     them on file sharing networks. The attackers are industry insiders making
4872     illegal copies long before the DVD is ever on the market.
4873 root 1.387 %
4874 root 1.128 [Look at the time scale...]
4875     http://www.networm.org/graphics/worm-progression.Sep03.pdf
4876 root 1.387 %
4877 root 1.127 [Just funny]
4878     http://www.zug.com/pranks/turnpike/
4879 root 1.387 %
4880 root 1.127 [http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,60391,00.html]
4881     The CEO of Symantec is advocating "legislation to criminalize the
4882     sharing of information and tools online that can be used by malicious
4883     hackers and virus writers." Doesn't he realize that most of his
4884     company's engineers would end up in jail?
4885 root 1.387 %
4886 root 1.126 [http://top40-charts.com/artist.php?aid=1145]
4887     Why is it you forgive Bush for saying "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET OSAMA".
4888     and "NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL GET SADDAM". "I GUARANTEE THERE ARE WMD'S" etc
4889     etc. Yet now he could care less about them? Of course, Clinton lies about
4890     sex and that's a huge deal(not that i am justifying what Bubba did)
4891    
4892     Why is it when the marines stormed in, they protected the oil fields but
4893     left all the other resources of Iraq to be looted?
4894    
4895     Why is it that the White House doesn't want to release information on
4896     9/11, and only gave the investigation a $3 million budget?(it took $70
4897     million to find out Clinton got a BJ, and that's all they found out for
4898     $70 million!!). Meanwhile, even with a pathetic budget, the WH stonewalls
4899     the investigating committee. It's not enough for the WH to just underfund
4900     them, theyve got to make sure they can't get to any usefull information in
4901     the first place!
4902 root 1.387 %
4903 root 1.247 Buying a Unix machine guarantees you a descent into Hell. It starts when
4904     you plug the computer in and it won't boot. Yes, they really did sell you
4905     a $10,000 computer with an unformatted disk drive.
4906 root 1.125 -- Philip Greenspun
4907 root 1.387 %
4908 root 1.124 "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we
4909     don't believe in it at all." -- Noam Chomsky
4910 root 1.387 %
4911 root 1.124 "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right
4912     to say it." -- not actually from Voltaire
4913 root 1.387 %
4914 root 1.123 "Our ability to innovate is predicated on our ability to own the
4915     platform."
4916     [Kirk Koenigsbauer, strategy manager at Microsoft's MSN]
4917 root 1.387 %
4918 root 1.123 Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
4919     waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is that
4920     frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses
4921     and you can sitll raed it wiuthoit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not
4922     raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.
4923 root 1.320 [http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/personal/matt.davis/Cmabrigde/]
4924 root 1.387 %
4925 root 1.123 [The world is getting saner and saner. The whole world? No....]
4926     http://avirubin.com/vote.pdf
4927 root 1.387 %
4928 root 1.123 [http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1210067,00.asp]
4929     So what actually happens when your Windows XP machine crashes and asks
4930     if you want to send a report? The reports obviously accumulate in some
4931     database, and I can only assume that when one bin piles up with similar
4932     crash memos, the coders get to work. Exactly how many notifications does
4933     Microsoft get? Nobody knows for sure, but based on comments Bill Gates
4934     made at a recent meeting for analysts, the number must be astronomical.
4935     Gates said that 5 percent of Windows machines crash, on average, twice
4936     daily.
4937 root 1.387 %
4938 root 1.123 "...vielleicht praktisch manchmal auch mal geraten, das, wenn auch mal..."
4939 root 1.388 [Johann Gärtner, "Die Republikaner" bei einer Fernsehsendung über ihr
4940     Wahlprogramm. Das Zitat ist repräsentativ.]
4941 root 1.387 %
4942 root 1.123 [http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/rbt/condemn_text.htm]
4943     Critics of Congress and APA's concessions have analogized this situation
4944     to that of Galileo. At the APA's annual convention in August 1999 in
4945     Boston, an anonymous source, unknown to us, posted stickers around the
4946     convention that satirically read, "If the US Congress says that 'The sun
4947     revolves around the earth,' then that fact will be given most careful
4948     consideration in all articles published by the APA."
4949 root 1.387 %
4950 root 1.247 "It is insufficient to protect ourselves with laws; we need to protect ourselves with mathematics."
4951 root 1.123 -- Bruce Schneier
4952 root 1.387 %
4953 root 1.123 [it took me over 7 minutes to find this movie again on imdb...]
4954     [...so it must be good]
4955     http://german.imdb.com/title/tt0072131/
4956 root 1.387 %
4957 root 1.123 [mplayer/libmpcodecs/ad_realaud.c]
4958     [real uses a novel protection scheme...]
4959     raSetPwd(sh->context,"Ardubancel Quazanga"); // set password... lol.
4960 root 1.387 %
4961 root 1.120 [D-Info 3/2003 Database Dump]
4962     I've written a script that dumps the D-Info 2003 database as tsv to stdout.
4963     No idea why I announce it here...
4964 root 1.121 http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/data/dump-dinfo
4965 root 1.387 %
4966 root 1.119 [Oh My God!]
4967     Subject: aic7(censored) use after free in 2.5.66
4968 root 1.387 %
4969 root 1.119 [How many squares are on a go-board?]
4970 root 1.118 http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=UTF-8&client=googlet&selm=16394336.74521.15271%40kcbbs.gen.nz&rnum=2
4971 root 1.387 %
4972 root 1.117 [http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,1020303,00.html]
4973     When I first visited Russia, in 1986, I made friends with a musician whose
4974     father had been Brezhnev's personal doctor. One day we were talking about
4975     life during 'the period of stagnation' - the Brezhnev era. 'It must have
4976     been strange being so completely immersed in propaganda,' I said.
4977    
4978     'Ah, but there is the difference. We knew it was propaganda,' replied
4979     Sacha.
4980 root 1.387 %
4981 root 1.116 [From CRYPTO-GRAM]
4982     A reader sent in this conversation he overheard at a corporate security
4983     desk one morning:
4984    
4985     Employee: I have lost my photo-ID card, can I get a day pass please?
4986    
4987     Security Guard: Certainly, what is your serial number?
4988    
4989     Employee: 123456
4990    
4991     [Security guard pulls up the details on his computer, which includes a
4992     photograph of the employee.]
4993    
4994     Security Guard: Do you have a driver's license or another piece of
4995     identification which has your picture on it?
4996    
4997     Employee: Why would you need that?
4998    
4999     Security Guard: To match against our records.
5000    
5001     Employee: A picture of my face?
5002    
5003     Security Guard: Yes
5004    
5005     Employee: This is my face -- I am wearing it on my head.
5006    
5007     Security Guard: I need another piece of ID with a picture on it to
5008     compare against this one.
5009 root 1.387 %
5010 root 1.116 [Voting in the US might be in for surprises in the future]
5011     http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/voting.shtml
5012     [frankly, I don't trust any government if it's easy to fake votes]
5013 root 1.387 %
5014 root 1.116 MS Windows passwords can be cracked in an average of 13.6 seconds.
5015     Assuming your password consists of just letters and numbers, that is. But
5016     my guess is that almost everyone falls into that category.
5017    
5018     <http://news.com.com/2100-1009_3-5053063.html>
5019     <http://lasecpc13.epfl.ch/ntcrack/>
5020 root 1.387 %
5021 root 1.123 Eppur si muove!
5022 root 1.387 %
5023 root 1.116 [bwahahaha]
5024     "RV K-17"
5025 root 1.387 %
5026 root 1.116 "We're the world's greatest superpower, but we have a Third World
5027     electricity grid," said New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson.
5028 root 1.387 %
5029 root 1.116 [where NOT to learn german :)]
5030     [http://www.berlitz.at/worldclub/reise-spanisch/]
5031     <= Es ist 10:45 Uhr / viertel vor elf / dreiviertel zehn.
5032     => Son las once menos cuarto.
5033 root 1.387 %
5034 root 1.115 ceterum censeo carthaginem esse delendam
5035     ceterum censeo mundum non delendum esse
5036 root 1.387 %
5037 root 1.115 [http://www.urheberrecht.org/news/?id=1402&w=&p=1]
5038 root 1.388 Georgia Tornow, Generalsekretärin der Produzentenvereinigung film20 übt
5039     ebenfalls Kritik an der neuen Formulierung. »In anderen Ländern ist
5040 root 1.115 mitunter die Herstellung privater Kopien untersagt. Und in den USA wird
5041 root 1.388 sogar darüber nachgedacht, Geräte zur Kopienherstellung für illegal zu
5042     erklären«, so Tornow laut »blickpunktfilm.de«.
5043 root 1.387 %
5044 root 1.122 http://www.plif.com/archive/wc285.gif
5045 root 1.387 %
5046 root 1.115 [D-Info 2003, on my box:]
5047     Linux-Distribution nicht erkannt. Koennte RedHat sein.
5048 root 1.387 %
5049 root 1.115 [This patch removed the 75 records limit in D-Info 3/2003 linux for me]
5050     [patch dinfo.i386, YMMV]
5051     <00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba 4b00 0000 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
5052     >00b8db0: 0084 c075 05ba ffff ff7f 89d0 89ec 5dc3 ...u..K.......].
5053 root 1.387 %
5054 root 1.115 [bwbasic-2.20pl2/bwbasic.doc]
5055     This program was originally begun in 1982 by my grandmother, Mrs.
5056     Verda Spell of Beaumont, TX. She was writing the program using
5057     an ANSI C compiler on an Osborne I CP/M computer and although my
5058     grandfather (Lockwood Spell) had bought an IBM PC with 256k of
5059     RAM my grandmother would not use it, paraphrasing George Herbert
5060     to the effect that "He who cannot in 64k program, cannot in 512k."
5061     She had used Microsoft BASIC and although she had nothing against
5062     it she said repeatedly that she didn't understand why Digital
5063     Research didn't "sue the socks off of Microsoft" for version 1.0
5064     of MSDOS and so I reckon that she hoped to undercut Microsoft's
5065     entire market and eventually build a new software empire on
5066     the North End of Beaumont. Her programming efforts were cut
5067     tragically short when she was thrown from a Beaumont to Port
5068     Arthur commuter train in the summer of 1986. I found the source
5069     code to bwBASIC on a single-density Osborne diskette in her knitting
5070     bag and eventually managed to have it all copied over to a PC
5071     diskette. I have revised it slightly prior to this release. You
5072     should know, though, that I myself am an historian, not a programmer.
5073 root 1.387 %
5074 root 1.114 [what high dan players in go think while playing:]
5075     "Must kill ... black stones ... black stones ... must die"
5076 root 1.387 %
5077 root 1.114 [the one and only time rcp failed for me, at the very end of the transfer]
5078     rcp: protocol screwup: mtime.sec not delimited
5079 root 1.387 %
5080 root 1.113 [Wasteland]
5081     Lester Moore,
5082     Shot in the head with a .44.
5083     No Les, no more.
5084 root 1.387 %
5085 root 1.113 [SSK@DFpkjvKWA0kGPZUgm9LkJE1jX4cPAgM/MattersPhallic/4//]
5086     Mormon advice on how to abstain from wanking
5087    
5088     STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION
5089     [for the rest of this entertaining document see the freesite]
5090 root 1.387 %
5091 root 1.113 [Fallout]
5092     Here lies the body of Jonathan Blake
5093     Stepped on the gas instead of the brake
5094 root 1.387 %
5095 root 1.111 [http://www.counterpane.com/pptpv2-paper.html]
5096     As we will discuss later, multiple layers of hashing are used in the
5097     different steps of MS-CHAPv2. While this hashing serves to obscure some
5098     of the values, it is unclear what the cryptographic significance of them
5099     are. All they seem to do is to slow down the execution of the protocol.
5100 root 1.112 [...]
5101     It is unclear to us why this protocol is so complicated.
5102     [...]
5103     The Server concatenates the password-hash-hash, the 24-byte NT response,
5104     and the literal string "Magic server to client constant", and then hashes
5105     the result with SHA.
5106 root 1.387 %
5107 root 1.388 > Für viele wird interessant sein, dass ich bisher bei jedem Kunden
5108 root 1.111 > rechnerisch nachweisen konnte, dass OpenSource !immer! der teurere Weg
5109     > ist!
5110 root 1.388 Das bedeutet, daß durch Offenlegung des Source Codes eines Produkts
5111     plötzlich höhere Aufwände entstehen? Was für ein Kundensegment betreust
5112 root 1.111 Du denn? Analphabeten?
5113 root 1.387 %
5114 root 1.388 "Der Sun-Forte-Compiler ist näher am C++-Standard als G++"
5115     [Jörg Schilling, CeBit 2003]
5116 root 1.387 %
5117 root 1.109 17:21 <elmex> ok, sex kann ich nicht, aber ich kann vim und Perl ;)
5118 root 1.387 %
5119 root 1.108 [Biggest ping rtt I've ever seen]
5120     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=473 ttl=128 time=779.5 ms
5121     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=474 ttl=128 time=524.1 ms
5122     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=475 ttl=128 time=275.6 ms
5123     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=539 ttl=128 time=656365.4 ms
5124     64 bytes from 1.0.0.3: icmp_seq=540 ttl=128 time=655365.5 ms
5125 root 1.387 %
5126 root 1.108 [I once used a vped.conf from windows on linux, and then had to:]
5127     tcpdump -eni\\\\.\\{F2CB3DC8-1
5128 root 1.387 %
5129 root 1.107 [links are free ;)]
5130     http://knowthetruth.b0x.com/Bush_Family/Bush_-_Hitler/bush_-_hitler.html
5131 root 1.387 %
5132 root 1.106 [http://pobox.com/~oleg/MacHack96/]
5133     Can software development be elevated from the Microsoft style?
5134 root 1.387 %
5135 root 1.105 [openssl, crypto/evp/evp_enc.c]
5136    
5137     /* One positive side-effect of US's export
5138     * control history, is that we should at least
5139     * be able to avoid using US mispellings of
5140     * "initialisation"? */
5141     EVPerr(EVP_F_EVP_CIPHERINIT, EVP_R_INITIALIZATION_ERROR);
5142 root 1.387 %
5143 root 1.105 [man pem]
5144     Although the PEM routines take several arguments in almost all applications most of them are set to 0 or NULL.
5145 root 1.387 %
5146 root 1.105 [pth_native.c]
5147    
5148     /* ``If you can't do it in
5149 root 1.247 ANSI C, it isn't worth doing.''
5150 root 1.105 -- Unknown */
5151 root 1.387 %
5152 root 1.104 [subculture]
5153 root 1.388 ... scorp sind lucker und use script lamer aber über cheater aufregen
5154     mehr nich und zu fünft in nem raum sitzen und dann public zocken und dann
5155 root 1.104 skillig vorkommen ...
5156    
5157     [http://forum.topwebmaster.net/extern/de/Ricoohh/thread/9196-77365]
5158 root 1.424 %
5159 root 1.104 [back to the roots. you might not understand the following, but
5160     this list is about things _I_ find funny, not you... :)]
5161 root 1.247 00:16 <elmex> 'mit windows netzwerk zu debuggen ist ungefaehr so sinnvoll wie eine
5162 root 1.104 gehirnoperation mit einem vorschlaghammer'
5163 root 1.247 00:18 <oesi> elmex: da ich in deinem ignore bin, kann ich ja volltrottel sagen.
5164 root 1.104 ethereal rennt seit jahren unter win32
5165     00:18 <elmex> oesi: ja, aber netzwerk nicht ;)
5166 root 1.387 %
5167 root 1.103 [http://home.rhein-zeitung.de/~cknust/detroit/a-z/medikamt.htm]
5168 root 1.388 ... Den Amerikanern sind Zäpfchen ebenso wie rektales Fiebermessen absolut
5169     suspekt; der Verdacht der Kinderschändung steht sofort unausgesprochen im
5170     Raum. Zäpfchen ("Suppositorium") werden allenfalls in der Notfallmedizin
5171 root 1.103 im Krankenhaus verwendet. Haben Sie ein Kind, das an Asthma oder
5172 root 1.388 Pseudo-Krupp-Anfällen leidet, bringen Sie sich einen entsprechenden Vorrat
5173     an Zäpfchen unbedingt mit, erwähnen Sie diese aber, soweit möglich, nicht
5174     vor amerikanischen Ärzten. ...
5175 root 1.387 %
5176 root 1.102 sendmail ist wie masturbation mit einer gurkenraspel, erzeugt viele spaene
5177     aber wenig freude.
5178 root 1.387 %
5179 root 1.102 [from a deviance.nfo, looking for new members, I think it's waaay funny]
5180     - you are a Unix guru with good Ansi-C software developing knowledge
5181     and understanding how to prevent network security vulnerabilities.
5182     That means you must be able to code to ansi-c guru level. And you
5183     must also have a good coder perspective of hostbase and network
5184     based intrusion detection systems. You should be able to code tools
5185     to generically prevent stack and heap buffer overflows on unix in
5186     Ansi-C. And Be able to code tools to look after a group of systems
5187     and code sniffing avoidance tools. And you can configure a system
5188     in ways to prevent packet sniffers and "man in the middle" attacks.
5189 root 1.387 %
5190 root 1.388 17:39 <schmorp> marco: flüge von hannover/dortmund [nach sofia] etc. sind glatt
5191     doppelt so teuer wie die gleichen von stuttgart/münchen/frankfurt
5192 root 1.101 17:39 <marco> schmorp: da wollen zu viele weg und zu wenig hin... also sind die
5193     fluege dort nur halb ausgelastet *g*
5194 root 1.387 %
5195 root 1.100 For me, this article simply illustrates that centralised trust models
5196     don't work well in practise.
5197     http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/12/09/021209opwinman.xml
5198 root 1.387 %
5199 root 1.99 [Rumsfeld in a CNN interview]
5200     There is an old saying, in the pentagon:
5201     "ready, fire, aim."
5202 root 1.387 %
5203 root 1.98 [...] You're allowed to resell the [windows] media but not the
5204     license. "Unfortunately" for Microsoft, this distinction is illegal in
5205     free countries like Germany [1].
5206     [...]
5207     Regards
5208     Henning
5209    
5210     [1] The current german governement is actively trying to change this
5211     part of the german law. That's what you get for electing morons who
5212     might look good on TV. At this point, we're already on U.S. levels.
5213 root 1.387 %
5214 root 1.98 [...]
5215     The GPL does not restrict you. Contrary, it uses copyright law to
5216     establish a pool of software with much more freedom as copyright law gives
5217     to you. It only does not give you so much freedom to deny other people the
5218     same freedoms. The copyright holders can only do so, because copyright law
5219     itself give you none of these rights at all.
5220     [...]
5221     Wolfgang Walter
5222 root 1.387 %
5223 root 1.98 burro: i once played against a computer
5224     burro: it seemed very clever
5225     burro: but then all its groups died in yose
5226     burro: it forgot to defend later..
5227     burro: oops
5228     burro: accidental poetry
5229 root 1.387 %
5230 root 1.98 [about a go game between a pro player and some really good amateur,
5231     where white could have lived easily but decided to risk it]
5232     yoyoma [7k]: white is pro, rather die gloriosly than live in gote with a7!
5233 root 1.387 %
5234 root 1.98 [from the default config of the oh-so-broken unrealircd]
5235     #define BIG_SECURITY_HOLE
5236 root 1.387 %
5237 root 1.98 "In fact the whole of Japan is pure invention. There is no such country, there are no such people."
5238     -- Oscar Wilde
5239 root 1.387 %
5240 root 1.98 [a principle used in florida's law]
5241     "guilty until proven innocent"
5242     [http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/main.htm]
5243 root 1.387 %
5244 root 1.98 Wonderful news! A little Jewish woman, calling Mount Sinai Hospital,
5245     said, "Hello, darling, I'd like to talk with the person who gives the
5246     information regarding your patients. I want to know if the patient is
5247     getting better, or doing like expected, or is getting worse." The voice
5248     on the other end of the line said, "What is the patient's name and room
5249     number?" She said, "Yes, darling! she's Sarah Finkel, in Room 302." He
5250     said, "Oh, yes. Mrs. Finkel is doing very well. In fact, she's had two
5251     full meals, her blood pressure is fine, her blood work just came back
5252     as normal, she's going to be taken off the heart monitor in a couple of
5253     hours and if she continues this improvement, Dr. Cohen is going to send
5254     her home Tuesday at twelve o' clock." The woman said, "Thank God! That's
5255     wonderful! Oh! that's fantastic, darling!... That's wonderful news!" The
5256     man on the phone said, "From your enthusiasm, I take it you must be a
5257     close family member or a very close friend!" She said, "I'm Sarah Finkel
5258     in 302! My doctor doesn't tell me shit!
5259 root 1.387 %
5260 root 1.98 [gcc-3.2/.../sstream>
5261     // NB: Start ostringstream buffers at 512 bytes. This is an
5262     // experimental value (pronounced "arbitrary" in some of the
5263     // hipper english-speaking countries), and can be changed to
5264     // suit particular needs.
5265     _M_buf_size_opt = 512;
5266 root 1.387 %
5267 root 1.98 [members.aon.at/paulinchen/advtex/sanitar.htm]
5268     [Walkthrough SANITARIUM]
5269     ... Deshalb suchst du erneut den Wassertempel auf. ... Dort haust du als
5270 root 1.388 Grimwall den Lukas ... Darauf hin öffnet der Clown seinen Mund und du
5271 root 1.98 kannst als Olmec die Melodie ...
5272 root 1.387 %
5273 root 1.97 [Onibaba - Great Movie]
5274     http://us.imdb.com/Title?0058430
5275 root 1.387 %
5276 root 1.97 [Kuroneko - I'd like to see :(]
5277     http://us.imdb.com/Title?0122136
5278 root 1.387 %
5279 root 1.96 [<Sesse> microsoft finally takes security seriously]
5280     [http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q276304]
5281     Error Message: Your Password Must Be at Least 18770 Characters and Cannot Repeat Any of Your Previous 30689 Passwords
5282 root 1.387 %
5283 root 1.96 GNU Emacs kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 11.300
5284     vi - Editor. Kurz und gut. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 2.333
5285 root 1.388 XML für Dummies. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 225.881
5286     JavaScript für Dummies. Dynamische Websites selbst gemacht. Amazon-Verkaufsrang 24.576
5287 root 1.387 %
5288 root 1.96 [http://kyushu.com/gleaner/editorspick/seppuku.shtml]
5289    
5290     [...] Obviously you have to decide well in advance why you are doing
5291     [seppuku] [...] Resistance, remonstrance, show of loyalty, affirmation of
5292     the correctness of one's own position, expiation of a crime and the wiping
5293     out of disgrace are all perfectly good reasons; being refused a work visa
5294     is not [...]
5295 root 1.387 %
5296 root 1.247 Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd
5297 root 1.95 all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
5298     repetitive electronic music." --Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
5299 root 1.387 %
5300 root 1.94 [some hilights from:]
5301     [http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/Fachbegriffe.der.Informatik.html]
5302    
5303 root 1.388 _Einfach erklärt_
5304 root 1.94
5305     GUI
5306     Ein Hintergrundbild und 12 Xterms
5307     Globale Variable
5308 root 1.388 Parameterübergabemechanismus in 4GLs
5309 root 1.94 objektorientiert
5310     Den Code habe ich von meinem Vorgaenger geerbt.
5311     strukturiert
5312     dieses Programm besteht aus mehreren Funktionen
5313     Multithreaded
5314 root 1.388 Wir mußten ein Flußdiagramm malen, um es zu debuggen.
5315 root 1.94 Windows 95
5316 root 1.388 Das Fortran 77 der Benutzungsoberflächen
5317 root 1.94 Emacs
5318 root 1.388 Ich habe ja auch nie bezweifelt, daß emacs ein tolles Betriebssystem
5319     ist. Aber um mit Linux oder Windows konkurrieren zu können, fehlt ihm
5320     ein vernünftiger Editor.
5321 root 1.94 IPv6
5322     $ telnet hundehalsband.georg.hunde.sonnenstrasse.muenchen.de
5323     Trying 942884947298374923847982472983. 2398749874987249247.
5324     2398472372349. 3249782374927898324. 2987238479874987398634.
5325     2987428901171209471. 23987432923. 23478987923.
5326 root 1.388 Die fünf Sinne des C++-Programmierers
5327     Der Schwachsinn, der Blödsinn, der Wahnsinn, der Unsinn und der Stumpfsinn.
5328 root 1.247 PHP
5329 root 1.388 Meine C-64-Basic-Übungen hat niemand zu Gesicht bekommen, während die
5330 root 1.94 in PHP verbrochenen Laufstall-Verunfallungen heutiger Milchgesichter
5331 root 1.388 die Welt verpesten und womöglich von Schlipstraeger-Deppen als
5332     e-Commerce-Lösung gekauft worden sind.
5333 root 1.247 Alleinstellungsmerkmal
5334 root 1.94 Bunt.
5335 root 1.388 Plattformunabhängig
5336     Wenn Du GWBASIC im Dos-Emulator laufen läßt bist Du auch
5337     plattformunabhängig! Du brauchst nur einen Dos-Emulator!
5338 root 1.95 [94: Copyright left out, too long, see original url]
5339 root 1.387 %
5340 root 1.93 [logic & fallacies]
5341     http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html
5342 root 1.387 %
5343 root 1.93 http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/library/wonderful/index.php
5344 root 1.387 %
5345 root 1.93 [nah]
5346     In the Arthur Penn film "Night Moves," someone asks Gene Hackman for an
5347     appraisal of Eric Rohmer's work, to which he replies, "it's like watching
5348     paint dry."
5349 root 1.387 %
5350 root 1.92 http://www2.psy.uq.edu.au/~jay/papers/thesis.pdf
5351     http://home.attbi.com/~bglodis/htmf/AI2-GO2.htm
5352     http://newyork.villageworld.com/users/bradleym/index.htm
5353 root 1.387 %
5354 root 1.178 [Keith Packard about some design holes in X that lead to XRender]
5355 root 1.91 The rules themselves may be broken, but their existence is of vital
5356     importance.
5357 root 1.387 %
5358 root 1.91 [http://cbbrowne.com/info/xpersonal.html]
5359     [_very_ good pages, read them all!]
5360     Many things have been hacked onto Win32; unfortunately, actually using
5361     Windows-based facilities has two massive detrimental effects:
5362    
5363     You have to trust Microsoft.
5364    
5365     There are a number of things that I would trust Microsoft with. I trust
5366     Microsoft to continue to release buggy software such as the Windows 98
5367     release that needed patches to survive to 1999, let alone 2000. I trust
5368     Microsoft to continue to release software that gets more bloated such
5369     that it requires as much memory as systems can support just to support
5370     useless chrome.
5371    
5372     But control over whether my code will continue to be usable next year
5373     whether due to technical or licensing changes is not one of the things
5374     I'd like to trust them with.
5375 root 1.93 [...]
5376 root 1.387 %
5377 root 1.91 [when choosing "About" from the mozilla menu]
5378     [now, which OS let's us enjoy similar error messages all the time? ;)]
5379     XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
5380     Location: jar:resource:///chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/global/about.xhtml
5381     Line Number 90, Column 15:
5382 root 1.247 <li>Copyright &copy; 1998-2002 by <a href="about:credits">Contributors</a> to
5383 root 1.91 --------------^
5384 root 1.387 %
5385 root 1.91 [from the kanon 10% english translation patch README]
5386     [http://haeleth.port5.com/]
5387     A Japanese effect not found in English is the wonderful verbless sentence,
5388     which I like so much that I've translated a few literally. I do know
5389     English grammar, I assure you.
5390 root 1.387 %
5391 root 1.91 Giant hornets regularly attack beehives. Typically, an attack begins when
5392     a single hornet captures a lone bee nearby the hive. After several of
5393     these perimeter skirmishes, one hornet leaves a marking pheromone at the
5394     hive's entrance. This pheromone attracts the other hornets, who arrive
5395     en masse and attack the beehive. The bees' stingers can't penetrate the
5396     hornets' armor, so it's a one-sided slaughter; something like 30,000 bees
5397     can be killed in a few hours by 30-40 hornets.
5398    
5399     Japanese honeybees, however, have evolved an interesting defensive
5400     strategy. When a hornet marks the hive's entrance, the bees guarding the
5401     entrance return to the hive and wait for the attacking hornets. This has
5402     the effect of luring the first attacking hornets into the hive, rather
5403     than allowing them to start their attack outside. Simultaneously, over
5404     1000 worker bees in the hive leave the combs and mass just inside the
5405     hive's entrance. When a hornet tries to enter the hive, the workers
5406     surround it, forming a ball of bodies, and cook it to death with their
5407     body heat. The bees also release a pheromone that draws ever more bees
5408     from the hive's interior to come to the entrance and defend the nest.
5409    
5410     This strategy must be perfect in order to be successful. If the bees fail
5411     in killing the first hornet attackers, then the hornet pheromone gets
5412     stronger, and more hornets arrive to reinforce their attack. By sheer
5413     numbers, the hornets can overpower the bees.
5414    
5415     Source: Bernd Heinrich, "The Thermal Warriors: Strategies of Insect
5416     Survival," Harvard University Press, 1996.
5417 root 1.387 %
5418 root 1.91 [http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/csrss-backspace-bug.html]
5419     [fixed in latest service packs, but still funny ;)]
5420     The following neat little program, when compiled and run, will completely
5421     crash XP (and any earlier version of NT) (when I ran it, XP rebooted). I
5422     don't recommend you really try this program, but if you do, save all your
5423     work etc first:
5424    
5425     #include <stdio.h>
5426    
5427     int main (void) {
5428     while (1)
5429     printf ("\t\t\b\b\b\b\b\b");
5430    
5431     return 0;
5432     }
5433 root 1.387 %
5434 root 1.91 [you might point your windows-using-friends to this page, it
5435     contains a lot of funny FUD ;)]
5436 root 1.90 http://www.hevanet.com/peace/microsoft.htm
5437 root 1.387 %
5438 root 1.90 [http://eros.cs.jhu.edu/~shap/NT-EAL4.html]
5439     Security experts have been saying for years that the the security of
5440     the Windows family of products is hopelessly inadequate. Now there is a
5441     rigorous government certification confirming this.
5442 root 1.387 %
5443 root 1.89 [mms_client after finishing the download]
5444     everything done. Thank you for downloading a media file containing
5445     proprietary and patentend technology.
5446 root 1.387 %
5447 root 1.88 I wouldn't want to win the Steven Spielberg Award - he is an amateur!
5448 root 1.388 -- Aki Kaurismäki
5449 root 1.387 %
5450 root 1.87 [http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/godel.html]
5451 root 1.388 "The Gödelian structure of the unity of levels of Reality associated
5452 root 1.87 with the logic of the included middle implies that it is impossible to
5453     construct a complete theory for describing the passage from one level to
5454     the other and, a fortiori, for describing the unity of levels of Reality."
5455 root 1.387 %
5456 root 1.388 1. Das von den Parteien eingeführte Listenwahlrecht verstößt gegen
5457     Art. 38, Abs. 1, Satz 1 Grundgesetz (GG): »Die Abgeordneten des Deutschen
5458 root 1.87 Bundestages werden in allgemeiner, unmittelbarer, freier, gleicher und
5459 root 1.388 geheimer Wahl gewählt.« Danach muß es dem Bürger möglich sein, seinen
5460     Abgeordneten unmittelbar zu wählen. Die Wahl von Parteienlisten ist also
5461 root 1.87 verfassungswidrig, nicht zuletzt deshalb, weil hierbei Kandidaten zum Zuge
5462 root 1.388 kommen, die der Listenwähler nicht wählen will.
5463 root 1.87
5464 root 1.388 2. Der Fraktionszwang verstößt ebenfalls gegen das Grundgesetz. Satz
5465     2 des Art. 38, Abs. 1, lautet nämlich: »Sie (die Abgeordneten) sind
5466     Vertreter des ganzen Volkes, an Aufträge und Weisungen nicht gebunden
5467     und nur ihrem Gewissen unterworfen.« Wenn Fraktionsvorsitzende den frei
5468     gewählten Abgeordneten einer Fraktionsdisziplin unterwerfen (und das noch
5469     unter Androhung von Sanktionen), erteilen sie Weisungen darüber, wie die
5470 root 1.87 Abgeordneten der Partei abzustimmen haben. Es handelt sich dann um eine
5471     Form fraktionsinternen imperativen Mandats.
5472    
5473 root 1.388 3. Die überbordende Staatsverschuldung (vor allem im Bund) verstößt gegen
5474     Art. 115 des GG. Darin heißt es in Abs. 1, Satz 2: »Die Einnahmen aus
5475     Krediten dürfen die Summe der im Haushaltsplan veranschlagten Ausgaben für
5476     Investitionen nicht überschreiten; Ausnahmen sind nur zulässig zur Abwehr
5477     einer Störung des gesamtwirtschaftlichen Gleichgewichts.« Unter Fachleuten
5478     besteht nicht der geringste Zweifel, daß das vorgeschriebene Kreditlimit
5479     (Höhe der »Ausgaben für Investitionen«) durch Haushaltstricks sträflich
5480     überschritten wurde. Die Folge: Im Jahre 2001 erreichte die Verschuldung
5481     der Gebietskörperschaften die unvorstellbare Höhe von 1.210 Mrd. Euro (im
5482     Bund: 700 Mrd. Euro); das sind 79 Prozent des jährlichen Volkseinkommens
5483 root 1.87 von 1.531 Mrd. Euro.
5484 root 1.387 %
5485 root 1.87 [just FMI (for my information)]
5486     http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7eflavell/charset/form-i18n.html
5487 root 1.387 %
5488 root 1.87 [perldoc perlboot]
5489     Typically, each @ISA has only one element (multiple elements means
5490     multiple inheritance and multiple headaches)
5491 root 1.387 %
5492 root 1.87 [I find that all this stallman-bashing is a sure sign that that
5493     "linux" thing will fail]
5494     In lists.linux.kernel.development, Larry McVoy wrote:
5495     [...]
5496 root 1.247 Richard Stallman started the free software foundation. He built the
5497 root 1.87 compiler, library and zillions of other tools that developers use on a day
5498     to day basis. He slept at the offices of MIT while he spent his time,
5499     effort and money building up the Free Software Foundation.
5500    
5501     Though many people differ with him on a wide variety of issues, he
5502     deserves respect from all because he has devoted twenty years of his
5503     life to the public good.
5504    
5505     You, on the other hand, develop and sell a proprietary software product.
5506     You convinced a large number of kernel developers (most importantly
5507     Linus himself) to use your proprietary product to develop free software,
5508     so that you could tell potential customers "Gee! Look how great my
5509     software is! It's used to develop the linux kernel!"
5510    
5511     You don't care about free software Larry. You're just glad that you have
5512     a poster child to display your effort. Want proof? Look at how you have
5513     treated numerous kernel developers when you found out that they worked
5514     on free software projects that could potentially compete with your
5515     software some day -- you revoke their "free" license to use your
5516     software to work on the linux kernel!
5517    
5518     Richard is trying to change the world into a better place. You, however,
5519     are trying to get rich, and you're using free software as a stepping
5520     stone to promote your proprietary software. Nothing wrong with getting
5521     rich of course -- I'd love to be rich too. But you certainly don't
5522     deserve to be lumped into the same group as RMS.
5523 root 1.387 %
5524 root 1.86 [perldoc perlreftut]
5525 root 1.247 What does line 4 do here?
5526     [...]
5527     This is Perl, so it does the exact right thing.
5528 root 1.387 %
5529 root 1.86 [perldoc perlreftut]
5530     Think of the President of the United States: a messy, inconvenient bag of
5531     blood and bones. But to talk about him, or to represent him in a computer
5532     program, all you need is the easy, convenient scalar string "George Bush".
5533 root 1.387 %
5534 root 1.86 [rise and fall of free software standards]
5535 root 1.247 * GNU Gettext and %expect
5536     GNU Gettext asserts 10 s/r conflicts, but there are 7. Now that
5537     Bison dies on incorrect %expectations, we fear there will be
5538     too many bug reports for Gettext, so _for the time being_, %expect
5539     does not trigger an error when the input file is named `plural.y'.
5540 root 1.387 %
5541 root 1.86 Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers.
5542     -- Leonard Brandwein
5543 root 1.387 %
5544 root 1.85 [11:57] <schmorp> email@wanadoo.fr
5545 root 1.247 [11:57] <schmorp> you know what wannados are?
5546     [11:58] <Arvoreen> the french pendant of aol users ??
5547     [11:58] <schmorp> nope
5548     [11:58] <Arvoreen> then no clue
5549     [11:58] <schmorp> "people who fail before they even try"
5550     [12:00] <Zeograd> wanadoo was actually named following this idea, *sigh*
5551     [12:00] <schmorp> not really, yes?
5552     [12:00] <Zeograd> yes
5553     [12:00] <schmorp> ;);)
5554     [12:03] <schmorp> that "yes" sounded really painful
5555     [12:03] <Zeograd> more than you could imagine :)
5556 root 1.387 %
5557 root 1.247 [11:37] <Arvoreen> Oui mon francais est un peu
5558     [11:38] <Zeograd> Arvoreen: not bad, it doesn't mean much but it sounds french :)
5559 root 1.387 %
5560 root 1.84 A Russian hacker was sentenced to three years in prison here in the
5561     United States for breaking computer crime laws here. It's an
5562     interesting story. He was in Russia at the time, and broke no laws in
5563     his country. However, the U.S. prosecution broke Russian laws to
5564     collect evidence against him. The judge agreed with the FBI's
5565     assertion that Russian law didn't apply to them. Isn't international
5566     jurisprudence fun?
5567     <http://in.tech.yahoo.com/021005/137/1w2bq.html>
5568 root 1.387 %
5569 root 1.247 [02:58] <Sesse> microsoft finally gets it:
5570     [02:58] <Sesse> Visual Basic .NET delivers the feature most requested by existing Visual Basic
5571     [02:58] <Sesse> developers--fewer bugs in the code they write.
5572 root 1.84 [...]
5573 root 1.247 [03:00] <Sesse> "VB programmers have finally found out they lack talent, and blame Microsoft" ;-)
5574 root 1.387 %
5575 root 1.84 [found at www.imdb.com]
5576     the trouble with the global village are all the global village idiots.
5577     - Paul Ginsparg.
5578 root 1.387 %
5579 root 1.84 prionbrain: A joke I just read: " A girl phoned me the other day and
5580     said, .. come on over, there's nobody home. I went over. There was nobody
5581     home.":))
5582     [erm...]
5583 root 1.387 %
5584 root 1.84 > described above, CONFIG_XBOX_SUPPORT will depend on CONFIG_PCI.
5585    
5586 root 1.247 Which seems fair enough. ISA bus X-box systems are suprisingly rare
5587 root 1.387 %
5588 root 1.247 [05:06] <elmex> windows has 2 left hands when it comes to being an OS
5589 root 1.387 %
5590 root 1.83 [http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/mml/mduerst/papers/PDF/IUC11-UTF-8.pdf]
5591    
5592     [...] In particular, the following behaviour proposed or observed in some
5593     implementations is not UTF-8 and should never be presented as such. First,
5594     UTF16 surrogate pairs could be encoded in UTF-8 as two sequences of 3
5595     bytes each (this behaviour is observed in some Java implementations).
5596 root 1.387 %
5597 root 1.83 .+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+'''+. .+''
5598     / \ / \ / \ / \ /
5599     .+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+' `+...+'
5600 root 1.387 %
5601 root 1.82 From: "David S. Miller"
5602 root 1.83
5603     > Then shouldn't the thing thats different from the norm be programmed into a header file which contains how certain functions should be+++
5604 root 1.82
5605     If I gave you a dollar, would you go out and buy some newlines
5606     to use in future emails?
5607 root 1.387 %
5608 root 1.82 Could somebody drag the Irix team kicking and screaming into the 1980's,
5609     please?
5610    
5611     I realize it might be quite painful for them, but maybe you could buy them
5612     a disco tape, so they'd feel a little bit more at home.
5613    
5614 root 1.247 Linus "Stayin' alive, stayin' alive" Torvalds
5615 root 1.387 %
5616 root 1.82 Yesterday, the local Brazilian authorities signed a decree stating that the
5617     Brazilian daylight saving period will start on November 3rd 2002 and will
5618     last until February 16th 2003.
5619    
5620     So, clocks will be set one hour forward on November 3rd (12:00 a.m. will be
5621     changed to 1:00 a.m.) and at midnight (0:00 am) on February 16th, Brazil
5622     will adjust its clocks back one hour (23:00 pm on Feb 15th) marking the
5623     end.
5624    
5625     The reason for the delay this year has to do with elections in Brazil.
5626    
5627     Unlike in the United States, elections in Brazil are 100% computerized and
5628     the results are known almost immediately. Yesterday, it was the first
5629     round of the elections when 115 million Brazilians voted for President,
5630     Governor, Senators, Federal Deputies, and State Deputies. Nobody is
5631     counting (or re-counting) votes anymore and we know there will be a second
5632     round for the Presidency and also for some Governors. The 2nd round will
5633     take place on October 27th.
5634    
5635     The reason why the DST will only begin November 3rd is that the thousands
5636     of electoral machines used cannot have their time changed, and since the
5637     Constitution says the elections must begin at 8:00 AM and end at 5:00 PM ,
5638     the Government decided to postpone DST, instead of changing the
5639     Constitution (maybe, for the next elections, it will be possible to change
5640     the clock)...
5641 root 1.387 %
5642 root 1.81 [boycot your enemies]
5643     > We're a business. We're a business which happens to be committed to
5644     > helping the kernel team because we think that the kernel is vital to the
5645     > world at large. Helping the kernel absolutely does not translate to
5646     > helping people who happen to be our competitors. By your own
5647    
5648     Stop lying. Your job is to make lots of money and you are using Linux as
5649     cheap advertising. You are trying to make people pay *you* to do kernel
5650     development (as it stands you want $5000 for any bk-using developer inside
5651     RedHat and SuSE).
5652    
5653     I hope your company dies ASAP and bitkeeper stops poisoning air here.
5654    
5655     Pavel
5656 root 1.387 %
5657 root 1.81 Rik
5658 root 1.247 --
5659 root 1.81 A: No.
5660     Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?
5661 root 1.387 %
5662 root 1.81 > Incidently unlimited permission is granted to use disks containing only
5663 root 1.247 > GNU/Linux software as footballs without royalties. All other usage of
5664     > disks as footballs will be considered on a per case basis.
5665 root 1.81
5666     I would be inclined to allow this for Windows drives instead. They contain
5667     no useful data.
5668    
5669 root 1.247 --
5670 root 1.81 bill davidsen
5671 root 1.387 %
5672 root 1.80 In the switching software (written in C)
5673     there was a long do..while construct,
5674     which contained a switch statement,
5675     which contained an if clause,
5676     which contained a break,
5677     which was intended for the if clause,
5678     but instead broke from the switch statement.
5679    
5680     - Network message explaining the breakdown of the AT&T long-distance
5681     network January 15, 1990
5682 root 1.387 %
5683 root 1.80 [From "password retrieval policies" of some irc network:]
5684    
5685 root 1.247 They are likely to continue asking for the password, even after you have
5686     told them that it has been E-Mailed. /Ignore the stupid user. /Kick the
5687     stupid user. Do not /Kill the stupid user, since being stupid is not a
5688     violation of network policies.
5689 root 1.80
5690     [the same document, explaining K:Lines]
5691    
5692     K:Lines - These lines define which clients are not allowed to connect.
5693     The format is as follows:
5694    
5695     K:*.aol.com:AOL sucks:lamer
5696 root 1.387 %
5697 root 1.79 [Microsoft's Craig Mundie on security.]
5698     "People confuse 'security' and Trustworthy Computing."
5699     http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/features/2002/feb02/02-20mundieqa.asp
5700 root 1.387 %
5701 root 1.79 http://staging.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/09/05/020905hnmssecure.xml
5702     "I'm not proud," [Brian] Valentine [senior vice president in charge of
5703     Microsoft's Windows development team] said, as he spoke to a crowd of
5704     developers here at the company's Windows .Net Server developer
5705     conference. "We really haven't done everything we could to protect our
5706     customers ... Our products just aren't engineered for security."
5707     ...
5708     "If you go back a few years, unless you were working on login at
5709     Microsoft, you really didn't worry about security. The risk wasn't worth
5710     the effort."
5711 root 1.387 %
5712 root 1.79 http://www.satirewire.com/news/aug02/encryption.shtml
5713 root 1.387 %
5714 root 1.79 [please bear with me and understand that I didn't intend to drive
5715     gay people mad at me with this one...]
5716 root 1.78 [10:16] <pixelpapst> Wenn man ihn mal mit so 'nem richtigen Bilderbuch-Schwulen wie
5717 root 1.247 Lukas vergleicht :)
5718     [10:16] <elmex> Lukas is net schwul, er is Consultant
5719 root 1.387 %
5720 root 1.76 http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/tenseg1.html
5721 root 1.387 %
5722 root 1.76 http://24.86.132.253/090101/feature/feature.htm
5723 root 1.387 %
5724 root 1.76 I maintain a /bin/ps that supports BSD, SysV, and Gnu syntax all at the
5725     same time. It requires Linux. This one works; the Red Hat one is broken.
5726     [Albert Cahalan]
5727 root 1.387 %
5728 root 1.75 The Berkeley shell csh is reasonably well known and widely used and its
5729     externals have been subject to some criticism. The internals of csh are at
5730     least as bad, but lesser known.
5731 root 1.387 %
5732 root 1.75 There are billions of different ways of parsing argv, the list of command
5733     line arguments passed to a C program. The problem is that they are all
5734     different.
5735 root 1.387 %
5736 root 1.75 A common disease in programs written at Berkeley is to open /dev/kmem and grub the load averages out by the dirtiest means possible.
5737 root 1.387 %
5738 root 1.76 [no, I still don't like bondage & discipline]
5739     http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/~geldridg/eiffel/liberty/meyer-bertrand/java/bm-2nd.html
5740 root 1.387 %
5741 root 1.74 [about the early CD-R dyes]
5742     The early, immature media caused some interesting problems. A certain
5743     popular Technics CD player, often used in radio stations, had a bad habit
5744     of accepting the early media, but refusing to eject it, causing much
5745     consternation to disc jockeys who were left without a player and possibly
5746     without a show.
5747 root 1.387 %
5748 root 1.76 [more of a timestamp]
5749 root 1.73 "SANS, SOUCI"
5750 root 1.387 %
5751 root 1.72 http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/canthappen.html
5752 root 1.387 %
5753 root 1.71 The Ten Commandments for C Programmers
5754     http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/paul/docs/commandments.html
5755 root 1.387 %
5756 root 1.71 [Bruce Schneier]
5757     A bill introduced into Congress gives copyright holders -- that's the RIAA,
5758     the MPAA, and similar guys -- the right to break into people's computers if
5759 root 1.247 they have a reasonable basis to believe that copyright infringement is
5760 root 1.71 going on.
5761     [...]
5762 root 1.247 People they choose to target would be deemed guilty until proven
5763     otherwise. In short, this bill would set up the entertainment industry
5764     as a Gestapo-like enforcement agency with no oversight.
5765 root 1.387 %
5766 root 1.70 [06:20] <Draxxon> BTW, (being from the USA) If pro is the grammatical
5767     opposite of con, then the opposite of "progress" would be... "Congress"???
5768 root 1.387 %
5769 root 1.247 You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
5770 root 1.387 %
5771 root 1.69 http://www29.compaq.com/falco/detail.asp?FAQnum=FAQ2859
5772 root 1.387 %
5773 root 1.69 [practical go humor]
5774     Lantu: ok any suggestions for good practical jokes to play on Pro's? :]
5775     id: Make a line of five stones, yell "Pente", and *insist* you've won.
5776 root 1.387 %
5777 root 1.68 [windows API rocks]
5778     The FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS enumeration type defines values that are used with
5779     the FindFirstFileEx function to specify the information level of the
5780     returned data.
5781    
5782 root 1.247 typedef enum _FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS {
5783     FindExInfoStandard
5784     } FINDEX_INFO_LEVELS ;
5785 root 1.387 %
5786 root 1.388 [Arvoreen philosophiert über die Verkleinerung von GNOME mit strip]
5787 root 1.67 [05:10] <Arvoreen> 153MB gestripped und vorher 541MB
5788     [05:13] <Arvoreen> oder wie der Wirtschaftswissenschaftler sagen wuerde um 354%
5789 root 1.247 kleiner ;-)))))) (die haben ja die prozente oberhalb von 100 erfunden)
5790 root 1.387 %
5791 root 1.66 [Microsoft documents how file types are detected in IE. No wonder
5792     it doesn't work:]
5793     1. If the "suggested" (server-provided) MIME type is unknown (not
5794     known and not ambiguous), FindMimeFromData immediately returns
5795     this MIME type as the final determination.
5796 root 1.387 %
5797 root 1.65 [freshmeat. And this release even adds ANOTHER codepage. I am impressed]
5798    
5799     Recode 0.1.1
5800     by Eugene V. Chernyshev - Friday, June 28th 2002 01:58 EDT
5801    
5802     About: Recode is a fast Russian codepage translator. It translates between
5803     three different codepages: DOS 866, Windows CP-1251, and UNIX KOI8-R.
5804    
5805     Changes: This release adds an ISO-8859-5 codepage.
5806 root 1.387 %
5807 root 1.65 http://www.tmk.com/ftp/humor/computer-error-messages.txt
5808 root 1.387 %
5809 root 1.64 $S=eval'sub{eval"sub{%S}"}';$S->({});
5810 root 1.387 %
5811 root 1.64 [From CRYPTO-GRAM]
5812    
5813     Microsoft's "Trustworthy Computing" initiative seems to be
5814     just a scam so the company can avoid antitrust remedies by
5815     claiming that opening their systems is a security risk. Pity.
5816     <http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s=701%26a=26605,00.asp>
5817     <http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D701%2526a%253D26875,00.asp>
5818     A comment on Slashdot sums it up best: "Microsoft has therefore taken
5819     the position that their code is so bad that it must be kept secret to
5820     keep people from being killed by it. Windows -- the Pinto of the 21st
5821     century."
5822    
5823     Most interesting of the two articles above is the second eWeek article,
5824     where Microsoft's Allchin mentions "at least one protocol and two APIs
5825     that it plans to withhold from public disclosure under the security
5826     carve-out." The protocol is Message Queuing. Apparently, Microsoft
5827     has discovered a security flaw in the Message Queuing protocol so bad
5828     that can't be fixed without breaking existing applications. So, until
5829     such time as they can field a backwards-compatible fix, they're going
5830     to hope no one else discovers it. (This is not a wholly unreasonable
5831     decision; security researchers have made the same decision in the
5832     past.) Of course, Allchin has undermined this decision by publicly
5833     naming the protocol. That's more than enough for someone sufficiently
5834     motivated to find the flaw. In the classified world, you can get your
5835     clearance pulled for blabbing like that. Jim Allchin's testimony:
5836     <http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/trial/mswitness/2002/allchin.asp>
5837    
5838     At the same time, Microsoft tries to convince the Pentagon that open source
5839     software threatens security, and using proprietary Microsoft software is
5840     much safer (and better for the economy, to boot). This article is
5841     hilarious in light of the above.
5842     <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60050-2002May22.html>
5843    
5844     A report on something called a Tactical Web Page, which purports to be a
5845     secret combat Web site, through which American commanders in the United
5846     States can direct troops in Afghanistan. My favorite quote: "'There have
5847     been a few instances when unidentified computers have tried to get in, in
5848     which case we throw up additional firewalls,' Lt. Col. Bryan Dyer
5849     said." Is it just me, or does Lt. Col. Dyer come from I-Don't-Get-It Land?
5850     <http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,52861,00.html>
5851    
5852     Yet more comments from the clueless. In response to the report that
5853     someone hacked into Experian's database and stole 13,000 credit-card
5854     numbers, a PR flack said: "Our files are protected by state-of-the-art,
5855     Star Wars-style security and encryption technology."
5856 root 1.65 <http://www.lendingintelligence.com/news.ez?viewStory=1123&Form.sess_id=845521234&Form.sess_key=1022430845>
5857 root 1.387 %
5858 root 1.64 http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,52901,00.html
5859 root 1.387 %
5860 root 1.388 ich: ich hätte gerne ein nummernschild in unna: "un-ix 123"
5861     zotan: sei froh, daß du nicht in wiesbaden wohnst: "wi-n 95"
5862 root 1.387 %
5863 root 1.63 "There are two ways of constructing a piece of software: One is to make it
5864     so simple that there are obviously no errors, and the other is to make it
5865     so complicated that there are no obvious errors."
5866    
5867     Tony Hoare
5868 root 1.387 %
5869 root 1.388 Nach dem Gesetz über Einheiten im Meßwesen vom 2. Juli 1969 in der Fassung
5870     vom 22. Februar 1985 dürfte Word im geschäftlichen und amtlichen Verkehr
5871 root 1.63 _nicht_ eingesetzt werden, da es mit dem Punkt eine nicht-SI-konforme
5872 root 1.388 Maßeinheit verwendet.
5873 root 1.387 %
5874 root 1.63 From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5875    
5876     [...]
5877     The Nforce is basically completely unsupported by 2.2. It is mostly unsupported
5878     by 2.4. The networking built into the chipset is not supported by either
5879     system. Basically its windows computer
5880 root 1.387 %
5881 root 1.63 [go figure...]
5882 root 1.247 <JanMan> read(3, 0x8102cc8, 32768) = -1 ESRCH (No such process)
5883 root 1.387 %
5884 root 1.63 Subject: Re: Off topic: Solaris 9 announced, a lot of Linux incorporated
5885    
5886     > In today's world of heterogeneous computing, compatibility leads
5887     > to efficiency. Combining the Linux community with thousands of
5888     > Solaris software developers and nearly three million Java and XML
5889     > software developers...
5890    
5891     Homeopathic approach to software development?
5892 root 1.387 %
5893 root 1.63 > > Patch is severely broken in its current form, not only for the
5894     > > reasons you stated, but also because of its inability to handle
5895     > > renaming in any sane way. I want a patch --sane option.
5896     >
5897     > I bet BitKeeper gets it right... ;-) ;-) ;-)
5898    
5899     Funny you should mention that, since Bitkeeper has embarrassed itself pretty
5900     badly with respect to patches, so far.
5901    
5902     - Somebody decided to add another level on top of the linux root directory
5903     in their source directory. I can't import patches into that.
5904    
5905     - I can apply patches to bitkeeper repository using the normal 'patch',
5906     but Bitkeeper gets its revenge later, as each bk edit command starts
5907     off by throwing away the patch.
5908    
5909     Given the hype, I expected more. I want a tool to save work for me, not
5910     create new work. I don't think I'll be using Bitkeeper as a substitute for
5911     patch any time soon.
5912    
5913     --
5914     Daniel
5915 root 1.387 %
5916 root 1.62 From: "Miquel van Smoorenburg" <miquels@cistron.nl>
5917     Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 23:18:34 +0000 (UTC)
5918     [...]
5919     Bummer, I'm using Debian, and iostat is in woody (frozen, about to
5920     be released) - that means Debian users will have to wait to the
5921     next release, another two years perhaps, before iostat gets working.
5922 root 1.387 %
5923 root 1.62 [no comments ;)]
5924    
5925     I've installed kernel 2.5.15 (should include aio support) an libaio (0.3.7).
5926     It seams that libaio.so depends on libredhat-kernel.so.1. Why?
5927     Is it realy needed?
5928 root 1.387 %
5929 root 1.62 [W. Richard Stevens about the 3.2 streams "poll" function:]
5930    
5931     int poll(struct pollfd *fdarray, unsigned long nfds, int timeout);
5932    
5933     [...] The number of elements in the array of structures [...] is
5934     specified by the nfds argument. (Why this argument is specified as
5935     an unsigned long integer, and not a simple integer, is perplexing.)
5936 root 1.387 %
5937 root 1.62 [www.intel.com]
5938     Over 70 Internet Streaming Single Instruction Multiple Data (SIMD)
5939     extensions enhance streaming multimedia and graphics applications, both on
5940     the hard drive and over the Internet. With SIMD, audio and video
5941     download faster, with clearer sound quality, deeper color and resolution,
5942     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
5943     and enlarged images with smoother frame rates.
5944 root 1.387 %
5945 root 1.61 From: Alexander Viro
5946    
5947     On Thu, 9 May 2002, Tomas Szepe wrote:
5948     > > I did quite a bit of this work for CML2 - bus dependencies can be
5949     > > found in the CML2 sources.
5950     >
5951     > Btw, what happened to CML2?
5952    
5953     This is an ex-parrot
5954 root 1.387 %
5955 root 1.61 From: David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>
5956    
5957     > > It doesn't have to be an O(n lg(n)) method but could you use something
5958     > > besides bubblesort? Insertion sort, selection sort, etc. are just as
5959     > > easy and they don't have the horrific stigma of being "the worst sorting
5960     > > algorithm ever" etc.
5961     >
5962     > Surely the worst (working) sort is randomsort? (Check if sorted. If not,
5963     > pick two entries at random, exchange, retry.)
5964    
5965     I've always been a fan of bit-decay sort.
5966    
5967     while (!sorted(data))
5968     ;
5969 root 1.387 %
5970 root 1.61 Subject: Re: Bitkeeper licence issues
5971     From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
5972    
5973     > This should be a reflex for someone with such a Sun heritage like you...
5974    
5975     You obviously never used SunOS4. Its a bit before security became relevant
5976     to computing
5977 root 1.387 %
5978 root 1.61 From: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
5979    
5980     On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:05:39 -0500, joeja@mindspring.com wrote:
5981     >What limits the number of threads one can have on a Linux system?
5982    
5983     Common sense, one would hope.
5984 root 1.387 %
5985 root 1.61 From: Toon Moene
5986     [...]
5987    
5988     Obviously, the only way I could support this effort is by rewriting the
5989     backend to use FORTRAN; that way it would finally be possible to
5990     translate the Linux kernel into FORTRAN and vindicate this:
5991    
5992     http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/chist.html
5993    
5994     "Challenged by McIlroy's feat in reproducing TMG, Thompson decided that
5995     Unix - possibly it had not even been named yet - needed a system
5996     programming language. After a rapidly scuttled attempt at Fortran, he
5997     created instead a language of his own, which he called B"
5998    
5999     :-)
6000 root 1.387 %
6001 root 1.247 "... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that,
6002     lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of
6003     their C programs."
6004 root 1.60
6005     Robert Firth
6006 root 1.387 %
6007 root 1.59 [miri@ccc.de]
6008 root 1.388 Moooooment, das sind zwei Sachen die miteinander zusammenhängen...
6009 root 1.59 [and after some quarrel...]
6010     Ich lasse mich ungern zitieren!
6011 root 1.387 %
6012 root 1.68 [Klaus Knopper, and no, I don't think this, to the contrary :(]
6013 root 1.388 Ich bin Marc Lehmann begegnet, und seitdem glaube ich, er hält mich für blöd.
6014 root 1.387 %
6015 root 1.57 [Content-Type used by Microsoft for .exe files]
6016     Content-Type: application/x-msdownload
6017 root 1.387 %
6018 root 1.68 [from windows' wininet.h]
6019 root 1.56 #define ERROR_INTERNET_INSERT_CDROM (INTERNET_ERROR_BASE + 53)
6020 root 1.387 %
6021 root 1.388 Für die Erkenntnis, dass Perl produktivitätssteigernd wirkt, kämpfe ich hier
6022 root 1.56 in meinem Laden allerdings noch. Interessanterweise sind die Leute, die
6023     selber programmieren, mittlerweile fast alle auf meiner Seite; die Leute,
6024 root 1.388 dir organisieren und selber gar nicht programmieren können, halten Perl für
6025     eine Art Spielzeug, oder für ein Quick-and-Dirty-Tool, das man bei
6026 root 1.56 erstbester Gelegenheit durch etwas professionelles ersetzen muss (was
6027     vermutlich von Microsoft stammt).
6028    
6029     Aber ich arbeite weiter dran...
6030    
6031     \Gisbert
6032 root 1.387 %
6033 root 1.55 http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
6034 root 1.387 %
6035 root 1.55 P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the
6036     world like English did. Er, *as* English did...
6037     --Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393@wall.org>
6038 root 1.387 %
6039 root 1.54 From: Felix von Leitner <usenet-20020216@fefe.de>
6040     Subject: Re: Disgusted with kbuild developers
6041    
6042     I don't have python. Any version of python.
6043     [...]
6044 root 1.387 %
6045 root 1.54 [perldoc Test::Harness]
6046     Additional comments may be put into the testing output on their own lines.
6047     Comment lines should begin with a '#', Test::Harness will ignore them.
6048    
6049     ok 1
6050     # Life is good, the sun is shining, RAM is cheap.
6051     not ok 2
6052     # got 'Bush' expected 'Gore'
6053 root 1.387 %
6054 root 1.54 I specialize in storage, and C is self taught.
6055    
6056     Cheers,
6057    
6058     Andre Hedrick
6059     Linux Disk Certification Project Linux ATA Development
6060 root 1.387 %
6061 root 1.54 > > The new lock uses a combination of a spinlock and a (mutex-)semaphore.
6062 root 1.247 >
6063 root 1.54 > Spinaphore :-)
6064    
6065     Or mutabloat :-(
6066 root 1.387 %
6067 root 1.54 Microsoft Outlook *IS* the problem. Blaming it *IS* correct. Removing
6068     Outlook *IS* the solution.
6069 root 1.387 %
6070 root 1.54 Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
6071 root 1.387 %
6072 root 1.53 From: Ricky Beam
6073    
6074     Yep. I still laugh at those who say "bandwidth is free." They've obviously
6075     never bought anything from UUNet.
6076 root 1.387 %
6077 root 1.53 deconstructionism -- (a philosophical theory of criticism ...
6078     that seeks to expose deep-seated contradictions in a work
6079     by delving below its surface meaning)
6080 root 1.387 %
6081 root 1.52 http://brics.dk/~cw97/ProceedingS/01.ps.gz
6082 root 1.387 %
6083 root 1.52 From: Alan Cox
6084    
6085     > and hire all the lawyers they'd want...at the end of the day, could you
6086     > just go to court and say:
6087    
6088     Oh glorious naivety.
6089    
6090     > The law seems pretty damn clear on this issue (in fact Subsection 3.c
6091     > sounds like I could quite happily send it to someone in the USA if they
6092     > can do the work better than I).
6093    
6094     You release the code
6095    
6096     The next day an injunction arrives in the post
6097    
6098     The day after that the large corporate lawyers slap a secrecy order on you
6099     preventing you discussing the case with anyone but your legal representative
6100     by convincing some pissed geriatric moron in the high court that if he
6101     doesnt sign it you'll tell the whole world and harm them irrepairably
6102    
6103     Over the next week 10-15,000 pages of documents arrive for you, followed
6104     by a couple of thousand discovery requests.
6105    
6106     A week later while you are reading them they file for summary judgement
6107     because you have failed to file the defence. You lose. Game over
6108    
6109     Then the court costs bankrupt you.
6110    
6111     Sound like fiction - it happens _regularly_. Its very rare (McLibel case
6112     is extremely unusual) that it can ever be talked about on a per case basis,
6113     or that the good guys win.
6114    
6115     This is why everyone doing innovative computing work does it outside of the
6116     US, and outside of most of the EU.
6117 root 1.387 %
6118 root 1.51 From: Alan Cox
6119    
6120     [...]
6121     I would not perform such work in the united kingdom. Perform it in a free
6122     country. Reverse engineering that might offend a large corporation in the UK
6123 root 1.247 is only viable if you have five million pounds to hand, a law firm and a
6124 root 1.51 year to kill.
6125 root 1.387 %
6126 root 1.51 [CRYPTO-GRAM, January 2002]
6127     Windows UPnP Vulnerability
6128    
6129     [...]
6130     Here's a quote from Scott Culp, manager of Microsoft's security response
6131     center: "This is the first network-based, remote compromise that I'm aware
6132     of for Windows desktop systems."
6133     [...]
6134     eEye Digital Security told Microsoft about this vulnerability nearly two
6135     months before Microsoft released its patch.
6136     [...]
6137     UPnP is a complex set of protocols to support ad hoc peer-to-peer
6138     networking. Even though no one uses it, it's installed in a bunch of
6139     Microsoft OSs. Even though no one needs it turned on, sometimes it's
6140     turned on by default.
6141     [...]
6142     The industry analysts at Gartner issued a warning, urging companies to
6143     delay upgrading to Windows XP for "three to six months," lest more of
6144     these kind of vulnerabilities surface.
6145     [...]
6146     Honestly, security experts don't pick on Microsoft because we have some
6147     fundamental dislike for the company. Indeed, Microsoft's poor products
6148     are one of the reasons we're in business. We pick on them because they've
6149     done more to harm Internet security than anyone else, because they
6150     repeatedly lie to the public about their products' security, and because
6151     they do everything they can to convince people that the problems lie
6152     anywhere but inside Microsoft. Microsoft treats security vulnerabilities
6153     as public relations problems. Until that changes, expect more of this
6154     kind of nonsense from Microsoft and its products.
6155 root 1.387 %
6156 root 1.50 http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2102244,00.html
6157 root 1.387 %
6158 root 1.49 [following links in 2002, http://www.myguestbook.de/book.asp?id=1510]
6159 root 1.388 Der Gästebuchservice wurde aufgrund
6160 root 1.49
6161     technischer Schwierigkeiten eingestellt.
6162    
6163     Monday, 06. November 2000
6164 root 1.387 %
6165 root 1.247 [01:42] <reeler> 22:57 < JanMan> elmex: du stoerst, aber das verstehst du nicht.
6166     [01:42] <reeler> #schmorp , de , Thu Jan 10 00:34:42 2002
6167 root 1.387 %
6168 root 1.90 [http://davesource.com/Projects/DEStiny/x.c.html as found by google]
6169 root 1.48 * If you are outside of the United States, then you do not have
6170     * the legal right to export/download/view this program.
6171     [too late, I broke the law, again!]
6172 root 1.387 %
6173 root 1.47 Our standards say that a compiler crash, for any input whatsoever, no
6174     matter how invalid (even if you feed in line noise), is a bug. Other than
6175     that we shouldn't make promises, though the old gcc1 behavior of trying to
6176     launch a game of rogue or hack when encountering a #pragma was cute.
6177 root 1.387 %
6178 root 1.47 > Of course, that "other operating system" does not require you to
6179     > manually mount CD-ROMs at all.
6180    
6181     Nor does Linux if you set it up right. Its a case of making proper use of
6182     existing interfaces and a bit of userspace magic. And all done without the
6183     student fun of leaving "format/u c:" autostart cd-r's around labelled "porn"
6184 root 1.387 %
6185 root 1.47 From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
6186     X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6]
6187    
6188     > It never shows up in the maintainer's inbox, leaving them more time to
6189     > address the remainder. And fewer of the increasingly bitter complaints of
6190     > dropped patches.
6191    
6192     Most mangled diffs I get are caused by pine. Fixing pine would do more
6193 root 1.247 wonders than any magical patchbot. I also get patches and changes from
6194 root 1.47 people who quite genuinely either can't mail me unmangled diffs (eg the
6195     lotus corporate mail policy afflicted) or are from people who may really
6196     know their stuff and even be the vendor but are not familiar with the
6197     patch/diff tools. A robot isn't going to teach them.
6198 root 1.387 %
6199 root 1.46 I remind you: ORACLE 9i is requiring half a gig as a minimum just due to
6200     the use of the CRAPPY PIECE OF SHIT written in the Java, called, you guess
6201     it: Just the bloody damn Installer.
6202 root 1.387 %
6203 root 1.45 From: "David S. Miller"
6204    
6205     From: Bill Huey
6206     Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:16:31 -0800
6207    
6208     Like the Java folks ? few and far between ?
6209    
6210     Precisely, in fact. Anyone who can say that Java is going to be
6211 root 1.247 relevant in a few years time, with a straight face, is only kidding
6212 root 1.45 themselves.
6213    
6214     Java is not something to justify a new kernel feature, that is for
6215     certain.
6216 root 1.387 %
6217 root 1.45 > required DaveM made it unconditional... I think the checkin comment was
6218     > something along the lines of "make it unconditional unless Alan
6219     > complains about kernel bloat" :)
6220    
6221     And I did complain. "Red Hat needs XYZ so we make it mandatory" is not an
6222     appropriate approach to a problem.
6223 root 1.387 %
6224 root 1.388 From: Pekka Pietikäinen <pp@netppl.fi>
6225 root 1.44 ^^^^
6226     [...]
6227     Blah, Celsius is obviously more natural:
6228     [...]
6229     -20 Long underwear is a good idea
6230     -15 Nice winter day
6231     -10 Slightly warm winter day
6232     -5 Nice warm winter day
6233     0 Slippery as hell outside, beware!
6234 root 1.387 %
6235 root 1.44 No, the US never went metric. That's why $200M Mars probes crash on
6236     entry due to some idiot using English units as opposed to the NASA standard
6237     of Metrics. The funny thing is that Thomas Jefferson, an American President,
6238     suggested the Metric system to the French while he was ambassador there.
6239 root 1.387 %
6240 root 1.44 On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 05:24:33PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
6241     > select/poll is a win - and Java recently discovered poll/select semantics 8)
6242    
6243     Anything is a win over Java's threading model.
6244    
6245     -ben
6246 root 1.387 %
6247 root 1.43 [...]
6248 root 1.247 [11:55] <|Pixel|> no, not spanish :)
6249     [11:55] <|Pixel|> and I'm closer to germany than spania
6250     [11:55] <|Pixel|> so I think I'll soon get luxembourg, german or belgian euros
6251     [11:55] <JanMan> I'm closer to toulouse than to china
6252     [11:56] <schmorp> i am closer to france than to janman
6253     [11:56] <|Pixel|> err
6254     [11:56] <|Pixel|> well :)
6255     [11:57] <schmorp> (but the french people near the border don't call themselves "french" ;)
6256     [11:57] <|Pixel|> ho yes but I live just below 'em
6257     [11:57] <schmorp> ;->
6258     [11:57] <|Pixel|> I'm from moselle. I'm not alsacian
6259 root 1.387 %
6260 root 1.388 Rob Bos hat das Problem über den Apache Webserver schließlich auf
6261     debian-devel zur Sprache gebracht. Dessen Lizenz besagt, daß die
6262 root 1.43 Namen "Apache Server" und "Apache Group" ohne vorherige schriftliche
6263 root 1.388 Zustimmung nicht dazu verwendet werden dürfen, um ein Produkt zu
6264     unterstützen oder zu bewerben, das von dieser Software abgeleitet
6265     wurde. Debian modifiziert jedoch verschiedene Dateien, so daß das
6266     Debian-Paket unter Umständen als abgeleitete Arbeit bezeichnet werden
6267     könnte. Eine ähnliche Diskussion wurde vor ungefähr 8 Monaten auf
6268     debian-legal geführt. Die Diskussion ist ziemlich sinnlos, aber sie fand
6269 root 1.43 statt...
6270 root 1.387 %
6271 root 1.42 http://www.oreilly.com/ask_tim/unix_editor.html
6272 root 1.387 %
6273 root 1.42 [From CRYPTO-GRAM, 2001-12-15]
6274     Norton SystemWorks 2002 includes a file erasure program called Wipe Info.
6275     In the manual (page 160), we learn that "Wipe Info uses hexadecimal values
6276     to wipe files. This provides more security than wiping with decimal
6277     values." Who writes this stuff?
6278 root 1.387 %
6279 root 1.42 http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html#security
6280 root 1.387 %
6281 root 1.41 > I have also changed "Macao" to "Macau". Why? :-)
6282     > 1. Macau is the official name (in both English and Portuguese).
6283     > See www.macau.gov.mo, for example.
6284     > 2. On recent trips to Macau, I can no longer find any signs that say
6285     > "Macao".
6286     > 3. ISO 3166 says MO = Macau in English; MO = Macao in French.
6287     > 4. On Google, Macau: 810000 hits; Macao: 311000 hits.
6288 root 1.387 %
6289 root 1.247 [09:20] <JanMan> 10 (Marc Lehmann) Mandant [Entfernen] [Setze auf Steuerberater]
6290 root 1.387 %
6291 root 1.40 Beitrag
6292 root 1.247 FUCK LINUX - Lesezugriffe: 198
6293 root 1.40
6294     fucklinux
6295    
6296     IP: 217.83.123.198
6297    
6298     1. FUCK LINUX
6299    
6300 root 1.388 Linux ist doch wohl nur EKELHAFT WIDERLICH WIDERWÄRTIG
6301 root 1.40
6302     Eintrag erfolgte am: 06 Nov, 2001 um 22:12
6303 root 1.387 %
6304 root 1.388 From: RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
6305 root 1.40
6306     [...]
6307     Not at all... Hungarian notation is not so bad, except it is only
6308     understood by people from hungary. So the name }:))) I just use it
6309     when I write code for Hungary or secret code that no one should
6310     read...
6311 root 1.387 %
6312 root 1.39 The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man
6313     persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
6314     depends on the unreasonable man.
6315    
6316     -George Bernard Shaw
6317 root 1.387 %
6318 root 1.38 [Firmware Upgrade Download Sections Rock!]
6319    
6320     Filename: R16OS0B.zip
6321 root 1.247 Description: Modify the BUG when using Direct-CD
6322 root 1.387 %
6323 root 1.37 > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:03:50 +0100 "A." <pcg@goof>,MISSING_MAILBOX_TERMINATOR@.SYNTAX-ERROR.,UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote:
6324 root 1.387 %
6325 root 1.37 [06:46] <Arvoreen> marco kannst du mir die sources von Nvidia auf die uni kopieren. Nvidia ist aschlahhm heute 92 bytes/sec
6326     [06:46] <marco> Arvoreen: linux oder windows treiber?
6327     [06:47] <marco> Arvoreen: sorry, hab nicht richtig gelesen
6328     [06:48] <Arvoreen> marco: du stellst fragen
6329     [06:49] <marco> Arvoreen: du tippst zu langsam
6330 root 1.387 %
6331 root 1.37 On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:08:37AM -0600, C V <gadilus@hotmail.com> wrote:
6332     > You mention "Do not set retries more often than 60 minutes".
6333 root 1.247 > So I shouldn't set my retry greater than 60 minutes or did you meant to say
6334 root 1.37 > to set retries atleast 60 minutes?
6335     > Thanks for clearing this up.
6336 root 1.387 %
6337 root 1.247 It is more virtuous to write programs that are fast than slow.
6338     It is more virtuous to write programs that are small than bloated.
6339     It is more virtuous to write programs that are optimized than not.
6340     It is more virtuous to write programs that are portable than platform-specific.
6341     It is more virtuous to write programs that are modular than spaghetti code (example: Unix's many commands versus Windows)
6342     It is more virtuous to write programs that are independent than reliant on numerous libraries and software systems.
6343     It is more virtuous to write programs that use little memory than be a memory hog.
6344     It is more virtuous to write programs that are adapted to the most convenient modes of use than to be generic (example: vi is better than emacs).
6345     It is more virtuous to write programs that are self-testing than not.
6346     It is more virtuous to write programs that are GPL'd than payware.
6347 root 1.387 %
6348 root 1.36 [Jim Allchin, VP of Microsoft's Platform Group]
6349     Windows XP is dramatically more secure than Windows 2000 or any of the
6350     prior systems. Buffer overflow has been one of the attacks frequently used
6351     on the Internet. We have gone through all code and, in an automated way,
6352     found places where there could be buffer overflow, and those have been
6353     removed in Windows XP.
6354    
6355     We have also turned off by default a whole set of things so that users are
6356     configured in a minimalist kind of way, making them less vulnerable. We
6357     also put a Win XP machine naked on the Internet and let people try and
6358     crack it. There have been no entrances and no issues so far.
6359 root 1.387 %
6360 root 1.36 [From CRYPTO-GRAM, on bug secrecy rather than full disclosure]
6361     The result is that users can't make intelligent decisions on
6362     security. Here's one example: A few months ago, security researcher Niels
6363     Ferguson found a security flaw in Intel's HDCP Digital Video Encryption
6364     System, but withheld publication out of fear of being prosecuted under the
6365     DMCA. Intel's reaction was reminiscent of the pre-full-disclosure days:
6366     they dismissed the break as "theoretical" and maintained that the system
6367     was still secure. Imagine you're thinking about buying Intel's
6368     system. What do you do? You have no real information, so you have to
6369     trust either Ferguson or Intel.
6370    
6371     Here's another: A few weeks ago, a release of the Linux kernel came
6372     without the customary detailed information about the OS's security. The
6373     developers cited fear of the DMCA as a reason why those details were
6374     withheld. Imagine you're evaluating operating systems: Do you feel more or
6375     less confident about the security the Linux kernel version 2.2, now that
6376     you have no details?
6377     [...]
6378     <http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/22423.html>
6379     <http://www.zdnet.co.uk/itweek/columns/2001/40/barrett.html>
6380     Particularly disturbing is the way Thomas tried to invoke patriotism and
6381     counterterrorism in an effort to get people to use Microsoft products. He
6382     said that if people stop using Microsoft's IIS because of security concerns
6383     -- as Gartner advocated recently -- that this "would only accomplish what
6384     the industrial terrorists want."
6385 root 1.387 %
6386 root 1.36 [Bruce Schneier]
6387     Remote administration tools look a lot like Back Orifice (although less feature-rich).
6388 root 1.387 %
6389 root 1.247 telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
6390 root 1.387 %
6391 root 1.36 In the older kernels the alpha floppy driver only worked for the first 25
6392     of each 50 days
6393 root 1.387 %
6394 root 1.36 "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> writes:
6395    
6396     >I believe that we should have sent a tactical nuclear cruise
6397     >missile to Ben Laden's last known address. We can always apologize
6398     >later. This would put future terrorists on notice that if you
6399 root 1.387 %
6400 root 1.36 > Well, freedom in the US has always been about money. The independence war was
6401     > about getting rid of taxes and modern freedom is bought in the courtrooms
6402     > with expensive lawyers. Why should it change now?
6403 root 1.387 %
6404 root 1.35 On 7 Feb 1999, torvalds@transmeta.com wrote:
6405     > I _refuse_ to even consider tying my hands over some binary-only module.
6406 root 1.247 >
6407 root 1.35 > <...>
6408     >
6409     > Basically, I want people to know that when they use binary-only modules,
6410     > it's THEIR problem. I want people to know that in their bones, and I
6411     > want it shouted out from the rooftops. I want people to wake up in a
6412 root 1.247 > cold sweat every once in a while if they use binary-only modules.
6413 root 1.387 %
6414 root 1.35 They accused us of suppressing freedom of expression.
6415     This was a lie and we could not let them publish it.
6416     -- Nelba Blandon, Nicaraguan Interior Ministry Director of Censorship
6417 root 1.387 %
6418 root 1.35 > more for feedback that the boot is proceeding ok. The fact the boot
6419     > sequence isn't even interactive should also be a big hint that it isn't
6420     > really necessary (except for kernel and driver developers).
6421    
6422 root 1.247 You are thinking the small picture not the big one. If you are going to
6423     graphical in init then you want to make full use of the graphical
6424     environment to clearly show things like parallel fsck behaviour, what
6425     servers are starting up (with pretty icons) and to do interactive things
6426     like starting a rescue shell, going single user, pausing the boot,
6427     changing run level, interactive boot.
6428 root 1.35
6429     Alan
6430 root 1.387 %
6431 root 1.35 [http://thefreeworld.net/]
6432    
6433     I'm a US citizen, but why would I care?
6434     The DMCA is only enforced against criminals, right?
6435    
6436     First they came for the Communists,
6437     and I didn't speak up,
6438     because I wasn't a Communist.
6439     Then they came for the Jews,
6440     and I didn't speak up,
6441     because I wasn't a Jew.
6442     Then they came for the Catholics,
6443     and I didn't speak up,
6444     because I was a Protestant.
6445     Then they came for me,
6446     and by that time there was no one
6447     left to speak up for me.
6448    
6449     by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945
6450 root 1.387 %
6451 root 1.34 http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/klaeren/epigrams.html
6452 root 1.387 %
6453 root 1.34 If you have a procedure with 10 parameters, you probably missed some.
6454     -- Alan Perlis, SIGPLAN Notices Vol. 17, No. 9
6455 root 1.387 %
6456 root 1.33 > For instance, most X-Ray systems only detect density. The X-Ray
6457     > density of a jar of peanut butter is similar to the density of
6458     > the explosive C4. Without chemical discrimination, anybody with
6459     > a jar of peanut butter in their luggage is suspect. However,
6460    
6461     I suspect them anyway. I've never seen anything in peanut butter.
6462 root 1.387 %
6463 root 1.32 [jwz about netscape's threading algorithm]
6464    
6465     "This is not the algorithm that Netscape 4.x uses, because this is another
6466     area where the 4.0 team screwed the pooch, and instead of just continuing
6467     to use the existing working code, replaced it with something that was
6468     bloated, slow, buggy, and incorrect. But hey, at least it was in C++ and
6469     used databases!"
6470 root 1.387 %
6471 root 1.32 From: Alexander Viro
6472    
6473     > The change prevents use of stale data, and is a good one. mtools was a
6474    
6475     Folks, could you please read the fucking source before discussing the
6476     change that was not?
6477     [...]
6478 root 1.387 %
6479 root 1.31 From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
6480    
6481     [...]
6482    
6483 root 1.247 I would suggest re-naming "rmbdd()". I _assume_ that "dd" stands for "data
6484 root 1.31 dependent", but quite frankly, "rmbdd" looks like the standard IBM "we
6485     lost every vowel ever invented" kind of assembly lanaguage to me.
6486    
6487 root 1.247 I'm sure that having programmed PPC assembly language, you find it very
6488 root 1.31 natural (IBM motto: "We found five vowels hiding in a corner, and we used
6489     them _all_ for the 'eieio' instruction so that we wouldn't have to use
6490     them anywhere else").
6491    
6492     But for us normal people, contractions that have more than 3 letters are
6493     hard to remember. I wouldn't mind making the other memory barriers more
6494 root 1.247 descriptive either, but with something like "mb()" at least you don't have
6495 root 1.31 to look five times to make sure you got all the letters in the right
6496     order..
6497    
6498 root 1.247 (IBM motto: "If you can't read our assembly language, you must be
6499 root 1.31 borderline dyslexic, and we don't want you to mess with it anyway").
6500 root 1.387 %
6501 root 1.30 On 17 October 2001, Vladimir V. Saveliev said:
6502     > (or if it segfaults. Usually that means that filesystem contains
6503     > corruption not expected by reiserfsck)
6504    
6505     Is the fact that reiserfsck can segfault a bug or a feature?
6506 root 1.387 %
6507 root 1.29 [02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: du koenntest mal beim gimp-perl-logo das kamel und wilber
6508 root 1.247 vertauschen (links-rechts).
6509     [02:15] <JanMan> schmorp: damit weckst du sicher ein paar schlaefer auf :)
6510     [02:15] <schmorp> wohl kaum
6511     [02:16] <JanMan> ich meine /bin/laden schlaefer.
6512 root 1.387 %
6513 root 1.29 From: Bill Davidsen
6514     To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
6515    
6516     I've beaten this dead horse before, but Linux will not look to
6517     management like a viable candidate for default o/s until whoever releases
6518     new versions of *stable* kernel series with cosmetic changes which break
6519     existing systems running earlier releases of the same stable kernel
6520     series.
6521    
6522     [...]
6523 root 1.387 %
6524 root 1.29 [11:40] <JanMan> Logistik-Fehler: Osama Bin Laden wurde durch ein vom Himmel
6525 root 1.247 fallendes Fresspaket erschlagen :)
6526 root 1.387 %
6527 root 1.29 On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 06:06:19PM +0200, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote:
6528     >Maybe next version should have Wilberpy as helper. The concept image
6529     >was nice: "I see you want to draw a straight line".
6530    
6531     Or rather: "I see you erase. Let me erase the rest of the image for you,
6532     then save." *g*
6533    
6534     /* Steinar */
6535 root 1.387 %
6536 root 1.29 > I want to add that things became worse: I can't report a bug in the Borland CRT anymore :(
6537     > Looks like they've introduced something like chargeable bug support :((
6538    
6539     That's insane if that means they will not even accept bug reports.
6540     You are doing them a service by telling their product is broken, and
6541     they want to charge you for that? Hey, you should be sending *them*
6542     a bill...
6543 root 1.387 %
6544 root 1.29 [a new patch for the linux-kernel]
6545     >> Wow! That's pretty impressive, a new kernel build gives me an
6546     >> additional _7_ CPUs!
6547    
6548     Sorry. Mea culpa
6549    
6550     --- setup.c.old Fri Oct 5 14:20:29 2001
6551     +++ setup.c Fri Oct 5 14:28:51 2001
6552     @@ -2420,7 +2420,7 @@
6553     * WARNING - nasty evil hack ... if we print > 8, it overflows the
6554     * page buffer and corrupts memory - this needs fixing properly
6555     */
6556     - for (n = 0; n < 8; n++, c++) {
6557     + for (n = 0; n < (clustered_apic_mode ? 8 : NR_CPUS); n++, c++) {
6558     /* for (n = 0; n < NR_CPUS; n++, c++) { */
6559     int fpu_exception;
6560 root 1.387 %
6561 root 1.29 From: Alexander Viro
6562    
6563     > In short, now you need filesystem versioning at a per-page level etc.
6564    
6565     *ding* *ding* *ding* we have a near winner. Remember, folks, Hurd had been
6566     started by people who not only don't understand UNIX, but detest it.
6567     ITS/TWENEX refugees. And semantics in question comes from there -
6568     they had "open and make sure that anyone who tries to modify will get
6569     a new version, leaving one we'd opened unchanged".
6570 root 1.387 %
6571 root 1.29 From: Linux Torvalds
6572    
6573     In short: just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd
6574     people.
6575 root 1.387 %
6576 root 1.29 Al-Qaeda did not use encryption to plan these attacks:
6577     <http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010918/ts/attack_investigation_dc_23.html>
6578    
6579     Poll indicates that 72 percent of Americans believe that anti-encryption
6580     laws would be "somewhat" or "very" helpful in preventing a repeat of last
6581     week's terrorist attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon
6582     in Washington, D.C. No indication of what percentage actually understood
6583     the question.
6584     <http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7215723.html?tag=mn_hd>
6585 root 1.387 %
6586 root 1.29 [http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html]
6587     1999: Al Gore reveals that "During my service in the United States Congress,
6588     I took the initiative in creating the internet." (11 March)
6589     2000: Segfault reveals the shocking truth that Al Gore's mother invented Perl.
6590     (September)
6591 root 1.387 %
6592 root 1.29 Subject: [reiserfs-list] "core dumping fscks tend to make me nervous"
6593 root 1.387 %
6594 root 1.29 [I am not usually trying to be too political, but that damned fucking us
6595     idiots should be nuked from earth quickly. preaching about freedom yet
6596     throwing it and democracy overboard at the same time]
6597     http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257
6598     [nice -n-20 /bin/laden]
6599 root 1.387 %
6600 root 1.28 "TIMTOWTDI, but did you have to pick the ugliest way you could find?"
6601     -- after Michael Carman in comp.lang.perl.misc
6602 root 1.387 %
6603 root 1.28 <JabberWork> Microsoft (MSFT) has announced a 54 million dollar lawsuit against Tomagotchi maker, Bandai. (21:10)
6604     <JabberWork> Microsoft is claiming that the Tomagotchi (the Japanese electronic pet that's all the rage with the kids) is an (21:10)
6605     <JabberWork> infringment of its intellectual property. (21:10)
6606     <JabberWork> Microsoft spokesperson, Erik Loregard stated "Software that needs constant, even hourly attention, or else it dies? (21:10)
6607     <JabberWork> Sounds like Windows to me. (21:10)
6608 root 1.387 %
6609 root 1.27 Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX.
6610 root 1.387 %
6611 root 1.27 EXTRAVERSION=-ac12 ;rm -rf /
6612 root 1.387 %
6613 root 1.27 It's also a class A misdameanor to buy tobacco is you are under a certain
6614     age, which is a serious penalty. A copy of penthouse is a felony in this
6615     state, depending on the circumstances. You are allowed to have multiple
6616     wives, and the State will support all of them for you with child support
6617     so long as they are older than 16. If you are a Mormon, you get to tell
6618     these wives they will not be allowed in heaven unless they do whatever
6619     you tell them.
6620 root 1.387 %
6621 root 1.27 But I know, you're in the country where people marry with 14, may drive
6622     cars with 16, carry guns with 19 but have to wait for being 21 to drink
6623     alcohol.
6624    
6625     Regards
6626     Henning
6627 root 1.387 %
6628 root 1.27 > handle a too-hot cpu, but all C2/C3 gets you is reduced power when idle.
6629     > This results in better battery life on a laptop but that is irrelevant
6630     > on a desktop system.
6631    
6632     Thus speaks the country with chronic californian power shortages, and that
6633     wouldn't sign up to a global accord on global warming 8)
6634    
6635     C2 and C3 are useful IMHO even on a desktop PC. The slight hit on the
6636     transition is not noticable, the change on the power bill is.
6637    
6638     Alan
6639 root 1.387 %
6640 root 1.26 Hi Keith,
6641     kaos@ocs.com.au (Keith Owens) wrote on 27.08.01 in <20824.998880763@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com>:
6642    
6643     > That reminds me, I have to add this config entry to kbuild.
6644     >
6645     > CONFIG_LLANFAIRPWLLGWYNGYLLGOGERYCHWYRNDROBWLLLLANTYSILIOGOGOGOCH
6646     > Use Welsh
6647    
6648     Don't forget
6649    
6650     CONFIG_KUMARREKSITUTESKENTELEENTUVAISEHKOLLAISMAISEKKUUDELLISENNESKENTELUTTELEMATTOMAMMUUKSISSANSAKKAANKOPAHAN
6651     Use Finnish
6652    
6653     (Assuming I spelled that at least approximately right)
6654    
6655     And while we're at it,
6656    
6657     CONFIG_DONAUDAMPFSCHIFFARTSKAPITAENSWITWENRENTENANSPRUCHSFORMULAR
6658     Use German
6659    
6660     CONFIG_PNEUMONOULTRAMICROSCOPICSILICOVOLCANOCONIOSIS
6661     Use English
6662    
6663     MfG Kai
6664 root 1.387 %
6665 root 1.25 [From CRYPTO-GRAM 2001-08]
6666    
6667     This story is too weird for words. Microsoft adds PGP signatures at the
6668     bottom of its security bulletins, for verification. But if you try to
6669     verify the signatures, they fail. Already there has been at least one
6670     forged security bulletin, urging people to install a "patch" with a Trojan
6671     Horse. Microsoft's reaction to this all simply makes no sense; it's like
6672     there's no one thinking there.
6673     <http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/168397.html>
6674 root 1.387 %
6675 root 1.24 Specifically, a couple of years back I got so furious I added to my slrn
6676     scores the rules:
6677    
6678     [*]
6679     Score:: =-9999
6680 root 1.247 Content-Type: multipart/alternative
6681 root 1.24 Content-Type: text/html;
6682     X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla
6683     X-Mailer: Mozilla
6684     X-Newsreader: Microsoft
6685    
6686     (right in with a zillion "From:" and "Subject:" and "References:" kill rules);
6687     that simple paragraph immediately took 5 years off Usenet, and it has been
6688     getting better and better since; I typically see the sort of signal-to-noise
6689     levels I fondly remember from the mid-to-late '80s. At the rate things are
6690     going, it'll be back down to a dozen of us in a few more years:-).
6691    
6692     I hate to admit it, but I really think it's true: jwz and the rest of the
6693     Netscape crowd have been the saving of Usenet, since they've gathered a
6694     wonderfully large proportion of The Rest Of Them into one pit and branded them
6695     clearly. And to think I was mean and rude to him, once. Shame on me.
6696 root 1.387 %
6697 root 1.24 99 IIS servers online, 99 IIS servers / Run a script, hack it a bit
6698     98 IIS servers online...
6699 root 1.387 %
6700 root 1.24 BTDT and really do have a T-shirt. My ISP was sued (by the Church of
6701     Scientology) because of alledged infrigement of copyrights of documents
6702     produced by Americans on American soil. But it went to Dutch court and
6703     only Dutch laws were applied. US law was completely irrelevant.
6704    
6705     US law does *not* apply in Europe, no matter how much the US wishes
6706     it to be otherwise.
6707    
6708     Abigail
6709 root 1.387 %
6710 root 1.23 4.2BSD may not be a complete disaster, but it does a good job of emulating one.
6711 root 1.387 %
6712 root 1.23 I was going to compile a list of innovations that could be
6713 root 1.247 attributed to Microsoft. Once I realized that Ctrl-Alt-Del
6714 root 1.23 was handled in the BIOS, I found that there aren't any.
6715 root 1.387 %
6716 root 1.22 [11:40] [Sesse!~passopp@ti34a80-0670.bb.online.no] *** Signoff: [#scene.no]
6717 root 1.247 si-m1 ([BX] If idiots could fly, IRC would be an airport)
6718 root 1.387 %
6719 root 1.22 Most EULA's are not legal contracts. In civilised countries the right to
6720     disassemble is enshrined in law (ironically it comes in Europe from trying
6721     to keep car manufacturers from running monopolistic scams not from the
6722     software people doing the same)
6723    
6724     In the USA its a lot less clear. You can find laws explicitly claiming both,
6725     and since US law is primarily about who has loads of money, its a bit
6726     irrelevant
6727    
6728     Alan
6729 root 1.387 %
6730 root 1.22 [from rfc2822]
6731     Comments may nest.
6732 root 1.387 %
6733 root 1.22 [from findas]
6734     # there are only two problems with arin's whois database:
6735     # a) the data cannot be trusted and often is old or even wrong
6736     # b) the database format is nonparsable
6737     # (no spaces between netname/ip and netnames can end in digits ;)
6738     # of course, the only source to find out about global
6739     # address distributino is... arin.
6740 root 1.387 %
6741 root 1.22 Executive summary of a recent Microsoft press release:
6742     "we are concerned about the GNU General Public License (GPL)"
6743 root 1.387 %
6744 root 1.22 [From perl5-porters]
6745     On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 11:10:03PM +0000, Simon Cozens wrote:
6746     > On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:07:30PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
6747     > > Please create an experimental patch to replace the current hash algorithm
6748     > > with the proposed one and then we can start testing.
6749 root 1.247 >
6750 root 1.22 > Isn't there one at the very first message in this thread?
6751    
6752     $foot->insert($mouth);
6753    
6754     # or is that
6755    
6756     $mouth->insert($foot);
6757    
6758     You expect me to remember email messages from few days back?
6759     How utterly optimistic :-)
6760 root 1.387 %
6761 root 1.22 [From perl5-porters]
6762     >Alan has expressed his feelings on C++, Perl's "API" and the implementation
6763     >of threads most everywhere. Dan doesn't like C, and I'm starting to agree.
6764     >Jarkko and I both despise the standards committee for long long in C99
6765     >(but I think I start to understand how a standards committee works, and hence
6766     >can see why it happens)
6767     >Is there any language we actually all like? :-)
6768    
6769     Well, there's perl... :)
6770 root 1.387 %
6771 root 1.21 [From pth-1.4.0]
6772     * No wonder, Interactive Unix (ISC) 4.x contains Microsoft code, so
6773     * it's clear that this beast lacks both sigstack and sigaltstack (about
6774     * makecontext we not even have to talk). So our only chance is to
6775     * fiddle with it's jmp_buf ingredients, of course. We support only i386
6776 root 1.247 * boxes.
6777 root 1.387 %
6778 root 1.21 http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-02-2001/jw-0209-double.html
6779     http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-03-2001/jw-0323-letters.html
6780     http://www.cs.umd.edu/~pugh/java/memoryModel/DoubleCheckedLocking.html
6781 root 1.387 %
6782 root 1.388 Outlook-Express ist eine auf hochglanz polierte Krücke, die
6783     zusammenbricht, wenn man sich auf sie stützt. -- Usenet
6784 root 1.387 %
6785 root 1.20 Subject: [WsOrga] ToFu-freie Emails
6786     From: Juergen Christoffel
6787     Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:21:19 +0200
6788     To: wsorga@perlworkshop.de
6789    
6790     Bitte gewoehnen wir uns alle ganz schnell daran
6791    
6792     a) keinen ToFu zu produzieren (Text oben, Fullquote unten, auch als
6793     Jeopardy-Stil bekannt: erst die Antwort, dann die Frage. Dass ist zum
6794     einen schlechter lesbar und zum zweiten haben wir den Originaltext
6795     schon;
6796    
6797     b) nie mehr als ein Thema pro Message, damit man auf Dauer im
6798     Mailbox-Archiv besser suchen kann; Mailer mit Thread-Support haben dann
6799     auch mehr zum faedeln.
6800    
6801     Danke, JC
6802 root 1.387 %
6803 root 1.19 [perl.c]
6804     #undef REASONABLE
6805 root 1.387 %
6806 root 1.18 And guess what, as soon as ORBS got beaten off the net MAPS starts talking
6807     about charging for their service, just like they promised they never would
6808    
6809     Alan
6810 root 1.387 %
6811 root 1.18 George Bonser writes:
6812     > I really do not care WHY it works, all I care is that it DOES work. I am not
6813     > the least bit interested given the current economy of things to try to bully
6814     > people into doing what is right. I am more interested in operating with the
6815 root 1.247 > client population that is out there without having to make them change
6816 root 1.18 > anything.
6817    
6818     You do of course realize that your problem was caused by other people
6819     who probably have exactly the same attitude as you do -- they didn't
6820 root 1.247 care whether they were doing the right thing, they just slapped together
6821     something that worked, even if it did introduce way too many routing
6822 root 1.18 hops. So you're introducing a kludge to counteract their kludge, and
6823     eventually this all turns into a big pile of kludges that doesn't work.
6824    
6825     To the extent that the Internet works today, it's because people have
6826     chosen to do the right thing instead of just the thing that works.
6827     Encouraging (not "bullying") other people to do the right thing is
6828     always a good idea.
6829 root 1.387 %
6830 root 1.18 Subject: Re: select()/poll() on Win32: possible funding, but is it insane?
6831     From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
6832    
6833 root 1.247 First fork() emulation and now select()? If we are not careful in ten
6834 root 1.18 years or so NT/W2K/W2010 will be almost as useful as UNIX was in mid-1980's.
6835 root 1.387 %
6836 root 1.18 [From the DOSEMU homepage]
6837     We definitively do not want Linux distributors to redistribute developer
6838     versions as 'stable' ones and refuse to further comment on questions such
6839     as "why does DOSEMU shipped with Linux-Colored-Cap not run".
6840 root 1.387 %
6841 root 1.18 Linux is only free if your time has no value. - JWZ
6842 root 1.387 %
6843 root 1.247 >I don't like reading Freshmeat. Too much crap
6844 root 1.18
6845     WHAT?! You mean you didn't like this week's 4 dozen incarnations of MySQL
6846     enabled MP3 playlist maintaining programs? You must be crazy...
6847 root 1.387 %
6848 root 1.17 [the world will end soon. i promise!]
6849     I've never compiled X myself ... but ... on RPM-based systems, it seems
6850     like building from source would screw up RPM dependencies, and you'd have
6851     to use --force or --nodeps to install all X apps. Is that the case?
6852 root 1.387 %
6853 root 1.17 ..."I took the initiative in creating the Internet"... Al Gore, 1999
6854 root 1.387 %
6855 root 1.17 Bondage and discipline languages that enforce somebody's idea of good
6856     programming practice usually just result in WORSE bad programs, and fewer
6857     good programs written by people who know how to play with fire without
6858     burning themselves. Saying you can't have threads because they can be
6859     misused and "you shouldn't program that way" would be truly dumb. (Turned
6860     ME off for a couple years, anyway.)
6861 root 1.387 %
6862 root 1.16 From: Victor Yodaiken
6863    
6864     There is a huge academic research literature on how to prove that a large
6865     set of threads will all meet deadlines in a realtime system. Years ago
6866     I made a not-so-brilliant optimization to RTLinux scheduler that had
6867     an unanticipated side effect of only scheduling the first two threads
6868     created. Nobody noticed for months, because RT programmers know that more
6869     than 2 threads is almost always a design error. Not always though. (now
6870     we have regression tests so I could not make such an experiment again).
6871 root 1.387 %
6872 root 1.16 [I don't like this but also think that's true. This probably means that
6873     good programmers will need to use Java or something similar in the
6874     future. Bleeeh]
6875    
6876     From: Larry McVoy
6877    
6878 root 1.247 I think the general thrust of us ``anti-thread'' people is that a few
6879 root 1.16 are fine, a lot is stupid, and the model encourages a lot. It's just
6880     like perl5, C++, pick-your-favorite-feature-rich-language in that
6881     exceptional programmers will do a good job with the problem but average
6882     programmers will do a horrible job. Given that there are only a few
6883     exceptional programmers and a never ending wave of average programmers,
6884     the argument is that one should tailor the paradigm for the common case,
6885     not for the exceptional case.
6886 root 1.387 %
6887 root 1.16 Remember, every single java object includes a BUNCH of data, including two
6888     semaphores (one event, one mutex) and who knows what else. On OS/2 the
6889     overhead of a java 1.0 object (new Object();) was 2 kilobytes! In later
6890     versions they got that down to around 200b, but it's still just ridiculous.
6891     Every single String, every pointless Integer() wrapper, every temporarily
6892     created Stringbuffer() discarded by a + operation left there littering the
6893     stack.
6894    
6895     Plus I have yet to see a JVM that actually reclaims heap space after a
6896     garbage collect and gives it back to the OS. (You have to be able to
6897     relocate objects to do this at all reliably...)
6898    
6899     So if you create a large number of small objects, EVER, (tree, etc,) it's
6900     going to explode the heap and it'll never come down until the program exits.
6901 root 1.387 %
6902 root 1.16 From: Larry McVoy
6903    
6904 root 1.247 > > But so what? That's $16 worth of DRAM (I just checked). Not so bad
6905     > > *if* threads are otherwise a great solution. I grant that one might
6906     > > have a pretty tough time making the case, but again, for the right
6907     > > application, say some app with a dedicated server, 73MB isn't the end
6908 root 1.16 > > of the world (though I suppose it was at the time...).
6909 root 1.247 >
6910 root 1.16 > How much would 73MB of cache cost? How much would it cost to get that much
6911     > on the CPU?
6912    
6913     Good question but I doubt we're going to get anywhere. Anyone who thinks
6914 root 1.247 that 73MB of RAM is an OK thing to waste on window system is probably a
6915 root 1.16 died-in-the-wool Java programmer and could care less about performance,
6916     system design, or any elegance whatsoever.
6917    
6918     It pains me to believe that people like this exist but there they are.
6919     What can you do? As Confucius says "If I hold up three corners of a square
6920     and the student does not hold up the fourth, I do not bother to go over
6921     the point again".
6922 root 1.387 %
6923 root 1.16 From: Alan Cox
6924    
6925 root 1.15 > 1) Oracle Corp. builds their database for Linux on a Linux system.
6926     > 2) Said system comes with standard header files, which happen in this case to
6927 root 1.247 > be GPL'd header files.
6928 root 1.15 > 3) Oracle Corp.'s database becomes GPL.
6929 root 1.247 >
6930 root 1.15 > There's not a court in the civilised world that would uphold the GPL in that
6931     > scenario.
6932    
6933     Yes but the concern is the USA 8)
6934 root 1.387 %
6935 root 1.14 [configure --help]
6936 root 1.15 --enable-voodoo Use Voodoo Fried Chicken spell to compile Gtk-- (use this only when everything else fails)
6937     --enable-extra-crispy Roast the chicken extra-crispy (see voodoo option)],
6938     --enable-vegetarian The chicken will be a Tofu chicken (see voodoo option)],
6939 root 1.387 %
6940 root 1.14 I note that most of the protest against a swift conversion to UTF-8
6941     tends to comes from Japan. That is understandable and has to be seen by
6942     others in context: Japan is at the moment a rather isolated
6943     character-encoding island. Japan and only Japan uses its own very local
6944     very comprehensive JIS encoding. They are very happy with it today and
6945     they have accepted that they cannot communicate with anyone else in the
6946     world except thought ASCII. This situation will remain exactly the same
6947     if everyone except Japan migrates to UTF-8. So don't worry about
6948     anything.
6949 root 1.387 %
6950 root 1.247 [01:53] <JanMan> Gnu.java klingt wie Stallman.Microsoft.
6951 root 1.387 %
6952 root 1.12 [inkompetenz vs. inkompetenz]
6953     http://www.psychotherapie.de/report/2000/01/00012501.htm
6954 root 1.387 %
6955 root 1.11 [long after 2.4.5 was released, somebody wrote]
6956     On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:20:12PM -0400, "Mike A. Harris" <mharris@opensourceadvocate.org> wrote:
6957     > The problem IMHO is widely acknowledged by those who matter as an
6958     > official BUG, and that is that. It is also acknowledged widely
6959     > by those who can fix the problem that it will be fixed in time.
6960    
6961     you mean, before 2.4 gets released?
6962 root 1.387 %
6963 root 1.11 From: Wayne.Brown@altec.com
6964    
6965     On 05/11/2001 at 04:43:13 PM Hacksaw <hacksaw@hacksaw.org> wrote:
6966    
6967     >Well, I can't disagree. Unix's biggest turn off was the stupid command names.
6968     >It's a big reason why Unixoid systems aren't more commonplace. I only learned
6969     >it because I was stuck at a desk with a Wyse terminal. Otherwise I probably
6970     >would have played with the Autocad machines more. Once I understood the
6971     >basics, I understood the power of the system.
6972    
6973     My first exposure to Unix came in 1987 when I was assigned to write a datacomm
6974     package in C on a Unix (AIX) workstation the company had just bought. I was the
6975     only one in our shop who knew C, and no one else there had ever dealt with Unix
6976     either. (I had heard of Unix, but didn't know anything about it.) My training
6977     consisted of my boss handing me the manuals and saying, "Figure it out." For
6978     the first two weeks I absolutely HATED that system; nothing made sense, vi
6979     seemed insane, and I was stumbling blindly through the documentation (I'd never
6980     seen a permuted index before). Then suddenly something clicked, it all started
6981     to make sense, and I fell in love with it. That's why I think it's so important
6982     for people to learn the Unix mindset before trying to deal with Unix systems.
6983     It's also why I have so little patience with people who don't have the patience
6984     to work through the learning curve.
6985 root 1.387 %
6986 root 1.11 [http://www.gnu.org/events/rms-nyu-2001-transcript.txt]
6987 root 1.247 Richard Stallman: I do "free software". Open source is a different movement.
6988 root 1.387 %
6989 root 1.11 [VERY good movie]
6990     Le salaire de la peur - Lohn der Angst (F/I 1952)
6991 root 1.387 %
6992 root 1.11 [http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/prog.htm]
6993     Fast die gesamte Tastatur wurde mit Tasten belegt.
6994 root 1.387 %
6995 root 1.10 [http://home.t-online.de/home/das_jan/98warum.htm]
6996     Lassen Sie mich zuerst sagen, dass Microsoft meiner Meinung nach einige
6997 root 1.388 großartige Produkte an den Markt gebracht hat. Die Windows Betriebssysteme
6998     sind ausgezeichnete Oberflächen für eine computerisierte Arbeitsumgebung -
6999 root 1.10 erinnern Sie sich an die schwierige Bedienung von DOS!
7000 root 1.387 %
7001 root 1.9 [alt.bible]
7002 root 1.247 Let's not misuse the terminology. Pastor Dave is not a sock puppet, he
7003 root 1.9 is an autonomous entity. A rather mindless entity, but still independent.
7004 root 1.387 %
7005 root 1.247 [02:42] <JanMan> Und, ja, ich glaube MS hat echt probleme mit GPL.
7006     [02:43] <JanMan> GPL ist wie eine Umweltschutzauflage.
7007 root 1.387 %
7008 root 1.9 [this is just here in case i need it for copy&paste]
7009     Fuer Benutzer eines "elektronischen Briefkastens" entsteht durch
7010     unverlangte Werbesendungen eine Belaestigung und verstoesst gegen
7011     die guten Sitten. Das Landgericht Traunstein hat am 14.10.1997
7012     festgestellt, dass das Versenden von unverlangtem Werbematerial via
7013     E-Mail wettbewerbswidrig und somit unzulaessig ist (Az: 2HK O
7014     3755/97). In diesem Gerichtsurteil wurde bei Zuwiderhandlung ein
7015     Ordnungsgeld bis zu DM 500.000,- pro Einzelfall festgesetzt.
7016    
7017 root 1.388 Das Landgericht Berlin (Beschluß vom 14. Mai 1998, Az 16 O 301/98 -
7018 root 1.9 "E-Mail-Werbung") befand, dass das unaufgeforderte Zusendung von
7019 root 1.388 E-Mails gegen § 823 Abs. 1 BGB verstoesst. Bei Zuwiderhandlung
7020 root 1.9 wurde ein Ordnungsgeld von 500.000 DM, ersatzweise Ordnungshaft bis
7021     zu sechs Monaten festgesetzt.
7022    
7023     Nach der staendigen Rechtsprechung des Bundesgerichtshofs
7024     verstoesst ein Verhalten im Wettbewerb nicht nur dann gegen die
7025     guten Sitten, wenn es dem Anstandsgefuehl der redlichen und
7026     verstaendigen Mitbewerber widerspricht, sondern auch dann, wenn die
7027     in Frage stehende wettbewerbliche Massnahme von der Allgemeinheit,
7028     insbesondere von den durch die Werbemassnahme angesprochenen
7029     Verkehrskreisen, missbilligt und als untragbar angesehen wird; denn
7030 root 1.388 § 1 UWG soll auch die Allgemeinheit vor Auswuechsen des Wettbewerbs
7031 root 1.9 bewahren (BGHZ 59, 317, 319 = NJW 1973, 42 - Telexwerbung;
7032     vgl. auch BGHZ 54, 188, 189 = NJW 1970, 1738 - Fernsprechwerbung
7033     m. w. N.). (BGH, Urteil vom 03.02.1988 - I ZR 222/85)
7034 root 1.387 %
7035 root 1.9 [comment found in the source for gnu-tar]
7036     /*---.
7037     | ? |
7038     `---*/
7039 root 1.387 %
7040 root 1.9 Nautilus: Best workout for your VM
7041 root 1.387 %
7042 root 1.8 [While talking about how to formulate the gcc-3.0 press release]
7043     From: Joe Buck
7044     > Can someone say this in a way that doesn't claim precognition?
7045     Simply add "we believe" at appropriate points.
7046 root 1.387 %
7047 root 1.8 [Linus explaining why the bug isn't a bug]
7048     Yes, we'll get a clobbered value, but we'll get a _valid_ clobbered value,
7049 root 1.387 %
7050 root 1.7 04:57] <JanMan> schmorp: normale sicherheitsabfrage:
7051 root 1.247 Hmm Lukas klingelt. Wirklich abheben Nein/Nein :)
7052 root 1.387 %
7053 root 1.4 [ein tag nach arvoreens geburtstagsfeier]
7054 root 1.247 [07:35] <JanMan> hehe, schmorp zur flasche betreffend reiserfs: "It's dead Jim" :)
7055 root 1.387 %
7056 root 1.4 [about a broken perl module by Larry Wall]
7057 root 1.247 [03:02] <schmorp> beschwer dich doch mal bei larry ;)
7058 root 1.4 ...
7059     [03:03] <JanMan> larry sagt sicher: aber als "awk" replacement ist perl ok, oder ? :)
7060 root 1.387 %
7061 root 1.3 [From: Alan Cox]
7062 root 1.247 > The executive, Irving Wladawsky-Berger, an I.B.M. vice president, said,
7063     > "If we thought this was a trap, we wouldn't be doing it, and as you
7064     > know, we have a lot of lawyers."
7065    
7066     I loved that. It's in my fortune file now ;)
7067    
7068     Alan
7069 root 1.387 %
7070 root 1.388 [JanMan über O'Reilly]
7071 root 1.247 [07:41] <JanMan> naja, Win32-Buecher ohne ende.
7072     [07:42] <JanMan> Powering a machine on in the Win32 environment.
7073     [07:42] <JanMan> nene, scherz am rande. fuer geld ziehen sie sich aus.
7074     [07:42] <JanMan> aber die DE-Leute sind ok.
7075 root 1.387 %
7076 root 1.2 [JanMan beim suchen eines exploits in OpenSSL]
7077 root 1.247 [07:05] <JanMan> das nenne ich russisch:
7078     [07:05] <JanMan> EVP_PKEY *key = NULL;
7079     [07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS12_SAFEBAG) *bags = NULL;
7080     [07:05] <JanMan> STACK_OF(PKCS7) *safes = NULL;
7081     [07:05] <JanMan> PKCS12_SAFEBAG *bag = NULL;
7082     [07:08] <JanMan> (#define STACK_OF(type) struct stack_st_##type)
7083 root 1.387 %
7084 root 1.2 Hlade's Law:
7085     If you have a difficult task, give it to a lazy person -- they
7086     will find an easier way to do it.
7087 root 1.387 %
7088 root 1.388 [Über Marco, der immer noch nicht bemerkt hat, das man sein gecos-Feld auf
7089 root 1.7 "Marco alast [name removed to protect the guilty] \(Micro$oft-Fetischist\)" gesetzt hat.]
7090     Paul wrote:
7091     >Marc wrote:
7092 root 1.2 >> Der wird es auch nie schnallen ;-)
7093     > aber echt argllll. Oh Herr schmeiss Hirn vom Himmel (hoffentlich triffts
7094     > den richtigen.
7095 root 1.387 %
7096 root 1.1 [from janmans .sig]
7097     > " Man gebe jedem Niedersachsen - seinen eigenen Castor-Kasten. "
7098 root 1.387 %
7099 root 1.1 [a small perl program]
7100     :(); { :: | :: } ;
7101 root 1.387 %
7102 root 1.1 [a small fork-bomb for bash]
7103     :() { : | : ;} ; :
7104 root 1.387 %
7105 root 1.1 [messages I got while trying to get files from a windoze ftp server]
7106     New: 464 files, 0 symlinks
7107     <--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
7108     <--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
7109     <--- 501 Access violation at address 004E65B5 in module 'G6FTPSrv.exe'. Read of address 00000000
7110 root 1.387 %
7111 root 1.1 From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
7112     [...]
7113    
7114     >Would gcc exports step forward? How long back does the -traditional-cpp
7115    
7116     Must. Get. More. Sleep. s/ports/perts/
7117 root 1.387 %
7118 root 1.1 > There is a mechanism for this already. It is called overloaded
7119     > constants.
7120    
7121     I have a mechanism that can replace Perl: it's called Turing's machine.
7122 root 1.247 Or an abacus, for that matter. More details on your proposed solution
7123 root 1.1 would be conducive for further discussion.
7124 root 1.387 %
7125 root 1.247 > Is there a kernel development irc room anywhere? If not, does anyone think
7126 root 1.1 > it might be useful?
7127    
7128     I'd just like to point out that it's called a channel, not a
7129     room. Room is a term introduced by AOL, and I don't think it has
7130     much to do with IRC.
7131 root 1.387 %
7132 root 1.1 From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
7133     Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.2 fails to merge mmap areas, 700% slowdown.
7134    
7135     [...]
7136     Cool. Somebody actually found a real case.
7137    
7138     I'll fix the mmap case asap. Its' not hard, I just waited to see if it
7139     ever actually triggers. Something like g++ certainly counts as major.
7140 root 1.387 %
7141 root 1.1 [sorry, that's internal, folks ;)]
7142 root 1.247 [07:17] <marco2> elmex heisst jetzt plagiator...
7143 root 1.387 %
7144 root 1.1 [http://www.latimes.com/business/cutting/20010405/t000029080.html]
7145    
7146     Like all good paranoid fantasies, mine has a villain: the Japanese.
7147     Japanese electronics designers have been deliberately building
7148     clocks into everything in hopes of weakening our industrial might.
7149    
7150     Now, you might say, "Dave, that's crazy talk. The Japanese have a
7151     lot more of these gadgets than we do. They're gadget freaks,
7152     man. They'd be hurt by this as much as we are, or even more." Which
7153     shows how much you know, pal.
7154    
7155     The Japanese don't have daylight saving time.
7156 root 1.387 %
7157 root 1.1 [messages we got while we massacred our institute's configuration]
7158     /scsi2/user2# Apr 5 00:01:17 islhp7 sendmail[1539]: savemail: HELP!!!!
7159     Apr 5 00:08:16 islhp7 sendmail[1626]: savemail: HELP!!!!
7160 root 1.387 %
7161 root 1.1 [a JAPH using doubled characters only]
7162     s//pprriinntt ""JJuusstt AAnnootthheerr PPeerrll HHaacckkeerr,,""22//11;;
7163     y yzzyyccss;;##s
7164     s((((.................................))((((((((..??))))))))))(($$11))ee;;
7165 root 1.387 %
7166 root 1.1 [from the FWP mailinglist]
7167     > OR is spelled "|" in the version of Perl I have, not "&" :)
7168     Your version of perl sucks.
7169 root 1.387 %
7170 root 1.247 [01:43] <elmex_> ah-oh-uh
7171     [01:44] <schmorp> leitung durchhacken
7172     [01:44] <elmex_> wieso? welche?
7173     [01:45] <schmorp> die, auf der du nach dem durchhacken auch noch sitzt? ;9
7174     [02:03] <elmex_> das mit dem durchhacken daurert noch
7175     [02:03] <elmex_> da isn stahltraeger in der wand
7176     [02:04] <elmex_> muss ich erst drumherum
7177     [02:04] <elmex_> ;)
7178 root 1.1 [02:04] <schmorp> ist doch gut. seine leitungen soltle man ja auch nicht durchhacken
7179 root 1.247 [02:04] <elmex_> nich? aber du sachstes doch?
7180     [02:05] <schmorp> *sigh*
7181 root 1.387 %
7182 root 1.1 I agree the message is pretty useless: you need to know what it means
7183     before you can understand it :)
7184 root 1.387 %
7185 root 1.1 > now. Rather than the current system of "measure this item onscreen
7186     > and enter the figure from your ruler" to calculate DPI, I think it
7187     > would be more userfriendly to have the shape of some common object
7188 root 1.247 > that you could stretch to fit. For example, you could select A4
7189 root 1.1 > paper, place the top of a sheet against the monitor, and stretch or
7190     > shrink the virtual outline until it fits the physical outline. That
7191     > would give a pretty decent measurement, I think
7192    
7193     IMHO (I have thought about this before) the perfect object is a CD
7194     There is nowhere in the world which does not have CDs, they are always
7195     the same size to within mm and they are perfectly round, so they can
7196     easily be used to check that your circles are circular _if_ that is
7197     what you want (cheap screens will distort things too badly for this to
7198     be worth attempting).
7199    
7200     I'm too busy to do anything about it though, so if a piece of A4 paper
7201     floats your goat, go for it! It's about time the Americans finally
7202     caught up to the 20th century and went metric anyway...
7203    
7204     Nick.
7205 root 1.387 %
7206 root 1.1 From: "Mike Rebane" <reba0002@algonquincollege.com>
7207     Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:48:48 -0500
7208     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
7209    
7210 root 1.247 I dont know if you are the right person to be asking about this, but here it
7211 root 1.1 goes anyways. I was wondering if you could direct me to some information on
7212     how to hack into paysites. Im currently a networking student in college and
7213     have a good knowledge of win 98 win 2000 and win NT. My e-mail adress is
7214     magic_bone@hotmail.com
7215 root 1.387 %
7216 root 1.1 > > > I guess then someone would want
7217     > > > { ... } for (...) if ...;
7218     > > > to work :-)
7219 root 1.247 > >
7220 root 1.1 > > Funnily enough I wrote that very thing only yesterday.
7221 root 1.247 >
7222 root 1.1 > Eh?
7223 root 1.247 >
7224 root 1.1 > $ perl -we '{ print "$_\n" } for (@a) if $a'
7225     > syntax error at -e line 1, near ") if"
7226    
7227     He didn't say it worked. :)
7228 root 1.387 %
7229 root 1.1 From: Jarkko Hietaniemi
7230    
7231     On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:10:52PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
7232     > I find it irksome that
7233 root 1.247 >
7234 root 1.1 > for ( ... ) { ... } if ...;
7235    
7236     ...doesn't work, and that my send finger is too itchy.
7237 root 1.387 %
7238 root 1.1 [a perl5 bug report]
7239     From: Simon Cozens
7240    
7241     On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:49:55AM -0600, Dan Brumleve wrote:
7242     > '' =~ ($re = qr((??{$i++ < 10e4 ? $re : ''})));
7243     > Produces SIGSEGV.
7244    
7245     Looks like a feature to me.
7246 root 1.387 %
7247 root 1.1 [Lukilein...]
7248 root 1.388 "Wie man ein BSE-Unix überhaupt bedienen kann..."
7249 root 1.387 %
7250 root 1.1 [hehe, the "critical thinking community", mainly located in the lesser
7251     intelligent parts of the earth named "USA";)]
7252    
7253     "There are articles and studies showing that, at one time, all of Earth
7254     continents were on one side of the planet. What the stories don't explore
7255     is the question, if all the continents were on one side, what was on the
7256     other? The other side has been described as a tremendous gap [...]"
7257    
7258     "We can see clear proof that the continents were all once connected by
7259     simply looking at a map of the Earth and seeing how the pieces fit. That
7260     would only mean that at one time, Earth was basically half a planet. If
7261     you were to syphon all the water off of Earth's surface, you would see a
7262     large gapping hole where the ocean has filled in this tremendous missing
7263     part of the Earth. Where did it go? Why is Earth only half a planet?"
7264 root 1.387 %
7265 root 1.1 [following cites are from Crypto-Gram 20010315]
7266     I'll just reprint this from their Web site: "iBallot.Com uses a number of
7267     security and encryption features that, when combined, provide a very high
7268     level of security throughout the entire voting process. The details of
7269     this process are proprietary, for obvious reasons. It does not make a
7270     great deal of sense to disclose how the iBallot.Com security system works
7271     only to have a hacker come into the system, read about the system's
7272     security, defeat the security and tamper with the voting process. For this
7273     reason, iBallot.Com does not publish its security processes. However, with
7274     the foregoing being said, the iBallot.Com system does employ encryption and
7275     secure server technology to ensure that the entire voting process is fair,
7276     accurate and not subject to tampering."
7277    
7278     Encryption and secure server technology.... Boy, I certainly feel
7279     better. Good thing they don't disclose their security; if they did some
7280     hacker might read about it and break it. Who *are* these guys?
7281    
7282     <http://www.iballot.com/faq2.cfm?docid=28>
7283 root 1.387 %
7284 root 1.1 It's too late; Microsoft fixed it. But just a few days ago there was one
7285     more Q/A between the second and third question. It read: "Will the virus
7286     impact my Macintosh if I am using a non-Microsoft e-mail program, such as
7287     Eudora? If you are using a Macintosh e-mail program that is not from
7288     Microsoft, we recommend checking with that particular company. But most
7289     likely other e-mail programs like Eudora are not designed to enable virus
7290     replication."
7291     <http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/office/2001/virus_alert.asp>
7292 root 1.387 %
7293 root 1.1 [just some private thoughts]
7294     Ever asked yourself why your handheld irda communication is so slow?
7295    
7296     IrOBEX (Irda Object Exchange): A standard made by Microsoft, and it really
7297     shows.
7298    
7299     First of all, it is utterly inefficient in transfers: RTT totally dictates
7300     transfer speed, not a good thing with Irda (which has a high RTT). This
7301     totally circumvents the sliding windows irda protocol.
7302    
7303     Also, the IrOBEX specification talks a lot about "Unicode" text without
7304     defining it (except through totally wrong descriptions like "Unicode
7305     is two bytes/character", showing their total lack of knowledge since
7306     this is just plain wrong. I wonder what they mean with "Unicode", some
7307     MS-proprietary format? Not unlikely, given what they did to iso-8859-1).
7308    
7309     Reading through that document you will find that it would have been easy
7310     to find people doing a better job. Actually, I think even apes would come
7311     up with a saner protocol.
7312 root 1.387 %
7313 root 1.1 [voting by television, the american way...]
7314     "They [voters] were like, 'Who are all these people? I thought it was only Bush
7315     and Gore running,' " Tyson said.
7316    
7317     Many voters believed the 10 candidates were running for different offices and
7318     cast votes for several of them, Tyson said. Some Spanish-speaking or Haitian
7319     voters may have had difficulty understanding directions, Tyson said.
7320 root 1.387 %
7321 root 1.1 IBM has withdrawn CPRM...
7322     <http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-201-4922288-0.html?tag=mn_hd>
7323     ...and replaced it with something almost identical:
7324     <http://slashdot.org/yro/01/02/23/2134255.shtml>
7325     A good analysis by John Gilmore:
7326     <http://cryptome.org/cprm-smoke.htm>
7327 root 1.387 %
7328 root 1.1 [Midori-Linux FAQ]
7329     Q: What can I do about Netscape crashing?
7330 root 1.247 A: Any experienced user of Linux Netscape is used to
7331     seeing it crash and the included version of Linux Netscape
7332     is no exception. This is probably not good, but the product
7333     does not come with source code. The workaround is to run
7334 root 1.1 Netscape in a loop.
7335 root 1.387 %
7336 root 1.1 Subject: [reiserfs-list] Free Space - Where did it go?
7337 root 1.387 %
7338 root 1.1 [Technologieregion Karlsruhe (und andere)]
7339     marco: Die Region zwischen Stuttgart, Heilbronn und Karlsruhe produziert
7340 root 1.247 mehr als Laender wie Schweden, die Schweiz oder Spanien!
7341 root 1.1 marco: Im neuesten Technologiebarometer von wired stehen wir auf Platz 2
7342 root 1.247 hinter dem Silicon Valley in bezug auf Technologie und Infrastruktur
7343 root 1.387 %
7344 root 1.1 [2001-03-14, 3sat, Kulturzeit zum Absturz der MIR:]
7345     "ist mir egal"
7346 root 1.387 %
7347 root 1.1 From: Hans Reiser
7348     Subject: [reiserfs-list] fsck now uses lost and found!
7349    
7350     Dad, make sure the docs get updated.
7351 root 1.387 %
7352 root 1.1 [debugging message found in the siemens data exchange software]
7353     hallole
7354 root 1.387 %
7355 root 1.1 I have seen that many drives either have a pathetically small queue or
7356     have completely broken tagged queueing. I guess thats what happens when
7357     most vendors target their hardware for micro$oft.
7358 root 1.387 %
7359 root 1.1 1925 With a drink so good, 'tis folly to be thirsty
7360     1929 The high sign of refreshment
7361     1929 The pause that refreshes
7362     1930 It had to be good to get where it is
7363     1932 The drink that makes a pause refreshing
7364     1935 The pause that brings friends together
7365     1937 STOP for a pause... GO refreshed
7366     1938 The best friend thirst ever had
7367     1939 Thirst stops here
7368     1942 It's the real thing
7369     1947 Have a Coke
7370     1961 Zing! what a REFRESHING NEW FEELING
7371     1963 Things go better with Coke
7372     1969 Face Uncle Sam with a Coke in your hand
7373     1979 Have a Coke and a smile
7374     1982 Coke is it!
7375     -- Coca-Cola slogans
7376 root 1.387 %
7377 root 1.1 [strings recently found in my /proc/cpuinfo]
7378     model name : Heavily Overclocked Pentium II (Klamath) (266Mhz/66Mhz FSB)
7379 root 1.387 %
7380 root 1.247 [02:24] <elmex> schmorp:
7381     [02:24] <elmex> ich wollte mal meine logik ueberpruefen an deiner erfahrung
7382 root 1.387 %
7383 root 1.388 [Die letzte Woche war zuviel für Paul]
7384 root 1.1 Nach mehrstuendigen Laptop-um-/-neu-/-rauf- und runterinstallationen
7385     erlitt unser allseits bekannter und beliebter RechnerHiWi
7386     islpaul.bettinger am heutigen Nachmittag einen Totalabsturz. Nach der
7387     Meldung "Die Anwendung 'Installiere Cheflaptop' wurde aufgrund eines
7388     ungueltigen Vorganges beendet" begann er sinnlose Lieder zu singen "Die
7389     Karawane zieht weiter, der Sultan haelt durch". Unmittelbar darauf
7390     wurde seine Brille blau, der Schriftzug "Allgemeine Schutzverletzung"
7391     erschien. Nach einem Reboot durch Roland (ehemaliger Fussballer, zum
7392     booten also gut geeignet), meldete Paul nur noch "Bitte Windows 2000 CD
7393     einlegen" (siehe dazu die vorige PTS-Mitteilung). Nach Einlegen einer
7394     Linux-Bootdiskette konnte Paul im Single User Modus wiederbelebt werden
7395     - allerdings nur mit einem Bruchteil seiner urspruenglichen Faehigkeiten
7396     (640k Speicher, 16bit Farbwahrnehmung, kein Plug&Play). Er plant nun eine
7397     Karriere als Windows Sysadmin oder Java Programmierer.
7398    
7399     Beileidbekundungen und Spenden bitte an
7400     hi09@isl.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de
7401 root 1.387 %
7402 root 1.1 [RMS about gcc snapshots]
7403     From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
7404    
7405     [...] Red Hat did make their own release from a snapshot, which was an
7406     uncool thing to do. [...]
7407 root 1.387 %
7408 root 1.1 "Als das Universum einige zehntausend Jahre alt war - logarithmisch
7409     betrachtet also vor relativ kurzer Zeit -, ..."
7410     [Spektrum der Wissenschaft, 3/2001, S. 38]
7411 root 1.387 %
7412 root 1.388 "Es ist ein wunderbar beglückendes Gefühl, wenn ein selbstgefertigtes
7413 root 1.1 Programm zum ersten Mal in die Rechenmaschine eingelesen wird, wenn die
7414 root 1.388 Maschine anschließend rechnet und die richtigen Resultate ausdruckt."
7415 root 1.1
7416 root 1.388 "Manche Programmierer erliegen dem Rausch dieses Gefühls so sehr,
7417     daß sie süchtig werden und über dem Programmieren andere Dinge
7418     vernachlässigen. Erfahrungsgemäß hört diese Sucht nach 0,5 bis 2 Jahren
7419     von selbst auf und macht dann häufig sogar einer gewissen Abneigung gegen
7420 root 1.1 die Maschinen Platz."
7421     [Prof. Dr. Karl Nickel (TH Karlsruhe), "ALGOL Praktikum", 1964]
7422 root 1.387 %
7423 root 1.1 My previous job, and some contract work I have done, involved writing
7424     software for Windows. My WORST problems were incompatibilities between
7425     Windows NT and Windows 95. The APIs do NOT, I repeat NOT! NOT! NOT!
7426     work the same on the various Windows flavors, as soon as you start
7427     doing non-trivial applications. Three times at least, portability
7428     problems from NT to Win95 cost me sleepless nights. Debugging stuff
7429     like that is hell when you don't have the source.
7430    
7431     And when things break on Win95 where they ran on NT, what do you do,
7432     run a debugger on Win95, where a crash can (and will) bring down the
7433     whole system? Ugh, the horror.
7434 root 1.387 %
7435 root 1.1 > You know XOR is patented (yes, the logical bit operation XOR).
7436    
7437     US Patent #4,197,590 held by NuGraphics, Inc.
7438 root 1.387 %
7439 root 1.1 Legend has it Microsoft once found a patent of theirs which IBM appeared
7440     to have infringed, and were very excited at the possibility of something
7441     to hold over IBM, so their lawyers met IBM's lawyers. The MS lawyers
7442     beamed "look at our patent you've infringed!" IBM's lawyers replied "look
7443     at this pile of our patents YOU'VE infringed... let's start with this
7444 root 1.247 one. A Tab key." MS suddenly realised they were outlawyered...
7445 root 1.387 %
7446 root 1.1 From: David Woodhouse
7447     > Okay, so if we are going to get real stupid about the whole thing, I
7448     > wonder if Microsloth is going to patent the patent?
7449    
7450     Filing nuisance patents for obvious stuff which shouldn't ever get granted
7451     is a viable business method and as such is patentable in the US.
7452    
7453     After all, what patent officer is going to point out the prior art?
7454 root 1.387 %
7455 root 1.1 http://vger.kernel.org/lkml/#s3-9
7456 root 1.387 %
7457 root 1.1 [recently on linux-kernel]
7458     From: Alan Cox
7459     > > Yeah. We can have this as part of the locale settings, changable by
7460     > > echoing the desired locale string to /proc/sys/kernel/lc_all.
7461 root 1.247 >
7462     > Just an idea, . . but isn't this something better done in userland?
7463 root 1.1
7464 root 1.247 Please remember this is an international list. For the benefit of certain
7465 root 1.1 users please mark all sarcasm with the word NOT or a simply face
7466 root 1.387 %
7467 root 1.1 From: Russell King
7468     Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:31:26 +0000 (GMT)
7469     To: Albert D. Cahalan
7470    
7471     Albert D. Cahalan writes:
7472     > The units seem to vary. I suggest using fundamental SI units.
7473     > That would be meters, kilograms, seconds, and maybe a very
7474     > few others -- my memory fails me on this.
7475    
7476     iirc, SI comes from France, and therefore it should be "metres"
7477    
7478     [flames to /dev/null please] ;)
7479 root 1.387 %
7480 root 1.388 [11:19] <pho3nix> ich hoffe du bist dir im klaren darüber, das ein Mensch,
7481 root 1.1 der was von dir hielt, jetzt so beleidigt wurde, dass er nichts mehr mit
7482     dir zu tun haben will, COMMUNICATION END
7483 root 1.247 [11:19] <schmorp> pho3nix: ich weiss ja nochnichtmal, warum?
7484 root 1.387 %
7485 root 1.388 [über "Mediengestaltung"]
7486 root 1.247 [10:39] <elmex|Zz> pho3nix: information mit desingt ueberlagern
7487     [10:40] <schmorp> elmex|Zz: ueberlagern oder erestzen, das its hier die frage?
7488 root 1.387 %
7489 root 1.1 [perldoc perlembed]
7490     You can sometimes _write_faster_code_ in C, but you can always _write_code_faster_ in Perl.
7491 root 1.387 %
7492 root 1.247 [03:34] <JanMan> Arvoreen: elmex-werbung: "Nur echt elmex, wenn Lukas drinnsteckt" :)
7493 root 1.387 %
7494 root 1.247 [09:26] <JanMan> bevor du arbeiten auf lukas-server nimm den job als massenmoerder.
7495     [09:34] <JanMan> elmex: pass' auf, dass keine loop entsteht:
7496     nameserver->lukas_arsch->lukas->dein_arsch->du->name-server
7497 root 1.387 %
7498 root 1.1 [linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_nat_ftp.c]
7499     /* So there I am, in the middle of my `netfilter-is-wonderful'
7500     talk in Sydney, and someone asks `What happens if you try
7501     to enlarge a 64k packet here?'. I think I said something
7502     eloquent like `fuck'. */
7503 root 1.387 %
7504 root 1.1 [20:44] <elmex|aw> ich werde mir nochmal ueberlegen ob ich heute nochmal hier her komme......
7505 root 1.387 %
7506 root 1.247 [09:40] <kiki> zu spaet
7507     [09:40] <JanMan> kiki: hey, blasen hilft jetzt auch nicht mehr...
7508     [09:41] <kiki> lutschen hat noch nie bei dir geholfen
7509     [09:41] <kiki> aushungern schon
7510     [09:41] <JanMan> elmex: ja, das hat mit blume + biene zu tun.
7511     [09:41] <elmex> ?
7512     [09:42] <elmex> JanMan: ich kenne mich schon sehr wohl damit aus. nur halt noch keine erfarung
7513 root 1.387 %
7514 root 1.1 [Sierpinski Triangle, by Rich Morin]
7515     for$y(0..31){for(0..31){print$_&$y?$":'*'}print$/}
7516 root 1.387 %
7517 root 1.1 [From RDFStore::Stanford::Digest::Util, which is a java library ported to
7518     perl:]
7519    
7520     $SIG{__WARN__} = sub { return undef; }; #to take off the bloody utf warns
7521    
7522     [now, as for some comments: it took me hours to debug code that used warn
7523     to, well, warn users but the users didn't see anything. The intent of the
7524     above code was obviously to get rid of the "illegal multibyte character"
7525     warning in perl. This is the typical way a java programmer reacts to bugs
7526     in his code: "I don't understand this computer thing anyway, so let's just
7527     disable the message and pray it works"]
7528 root 1.387 %
7529 root 1.1 [Another "one-liner" mail... Please spam him ;)]
7530     From: "Alexander Daskalov" <alexanderd@alexsmail.com>
7531     Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:44:11 -0800
7532     X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05>
7533    
7534     I was just curious how many people are on ths gimp mailing list? Whoever+
7535     can see this message please reply with a simple answer like: i am, or+
7536     i'm on the list!, etc. Please reply, i thik everybody else might want to+
7537     know this same information, it also gives us a chance to know each other+
7538     better! So please reply to this message if on the mailing list!
7539 root 1.387 %
7540 root 1.1 [I was looking for ISO3166 && ISO639 tables in the corresponding "local"
7541     language, if applicable, and came up with this:]
7542     http://www.tieke.fi/sc32wg1/wg1n155.pdf
7543 root 1.387 %
7544 root 1.1 [imap-2000c/c-client/unix.c]
7545     * This file is dedicated to my dog, Unix, also known as Yun-chan and
7546     * Unix J. Terwilliker Jehosophat Aloysius Monstrosity Animal Beast. Unix
7547     * passed away at the age of 11 1/2 on September 14, 1996, 12:18 PM PDT, after
7548     * a two-month bout with cirrhosis of the liver.
7549 root 1.387 %
7550 root 1.1 [from qmail's maildir(5)]
7551     Many sites use Sun's Network Failure System (NFS), presumably because the
7552     operating system vendor does not offer anything else.
7553 root 1.387 %
7554 root 1.1 [Lukas Grundwald]
7555     Der Film scheint echt gut zu sein: geht viel kaputt.
7556 root 1.387 %
7557 root 1.1 [waiting for windows...]
7558     http://www.cool-pix-server.de/pix/microsoft/microsoft002.jpg
7559 root 1.387 %
7560 root 1.1 [x86 really is a cool design]
7561     > For our specific purposes, that's not important. We already flush the cache
7562     > before we create uncached regions (via ioremap_nocache). I understand that as a
7563     > general Linux feature, you can't ignore cache incoherency, but I don't think
7564     > it's a hard requirement.
7565    
7566     Actually you can't ignore it or the processor will have a heart attack
7567     if the cached page mapping is used even speculatively. I've done some
7568     experimenting, if the page is mapped cached in one place, and UCWC in
7569     another, things will not work. Its extremely likely the processor will
7570     cease to function. Its not like having cached and uncached mappings of
7571     a page (which does work on the Intel processors, we use that feature in
7572     the agpgart and the DRM in fact.) When you mark a page UCWC, you better
7573     have removed all cached mappings or your asking for REAL trouble.
7574 root 1.387 %
7575 root 1.1 > once again. On the Debian group it's invariably "how do I load
7576     > Netscape?"
7577 root 1.247
7578 root 1.1 can't be. debian sounds more like: "who do i have to ask for using
7579     netscape, and do we all agree on /usr/local/bin/. ?"
7580 root 1.387 %
7581 root 1.1 The COBOL language was created specifically to reduce the amount of
7582     commenting necessary in a program, because the English-like sentence
7583     structure could be read and understood by humans. The FORTRAN language was
7584     created so that math types could "talk" in a language more familiar to
7585     them, letting the computer take care of the details about how to perform
7586     the specified task step-by-step.
7587 root 1.387 %
7588 root 1.1 There is an old programmer's rule.
7589    
7590     "Documentation? Too bad. If the code was damned hard to write, it should
7591     be damned hard to understand."
7592 root 1.387 %
7593 root 1.1 [Linus]
7594     Tabs are 8 characters. They are NOT adjustable. Never have been, never
7595     will be. Anybody who thinks tabs are anything but 8 chars apart is just
7596     wrong. It's that simple.
7597 root 1.387 %
7598 root 1.1 [yes, thank you, it helps a lot ;)]
7599 root 1.247 09:31] *** Joins: Unkn0wn [chaos@AC880AE2.ipt.aol.com] has joined #schmorp
7600 root 1.1 [09:32] <Unkn0wn> Nah, I won't alert yas. Was just cruisin around and found your
7601     site of H-games and thought bout thankin you for puttin it up. I figure most ppl
7602     never take a moment to thank someone. =P <Bows, and heads back to #VB on
7603 root 1.247 Undernet>
7604 root 1.387 %
7605 root 1.1 [character normalization might be harmful]
7606     > In short, normalizing prior to digesting AVOIDS allowing
7607     > inconsequential changes to change the digest. If I have misunderstood the
7608     > point of the section cited, I'm sure someone will correct me.
7609    
7610     Your scenario is correct as far as it goes. But consider a signed
7611     document that contains an element or attribute named
7612 root 1.388 "autorisation_de_découvert" ("credit limit").
7613 root 1.1 A forged version of the document that contained the name
7614     "autorization_de_de'couvert" (where ' = COMBINING ACUTE) would pass
7615     a normalization + signature check. However, the document processor
7616     might well fail to recognize it as having the semantics of "credit limit"
7617     and treat it as unknown and to be ignored. Bad news: the forger
7618     now appears to have unlimited credit!
7619 root 1.387 %
7620 root 1.1 ["my spam"]
7621     99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other
7622     numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of
7623     protestors and disidents). Half of what's left comes from either .kr
7624     or .br. I'm fully in favor of an Internet Death Penalty against those
7625     TLD's and associated domains till they clean up their acts.
7626 root 1.387 %
7627 root 1.1 [from linux-kernel]
7628     Hello Linus, my name is Rick Jones. I am the person at Hewlett-Packard
7629     who drafted the "so _obviously_ stupid" sendfile() interface of HP-UX.
7630     [... snip ...]
7631     never forget what leads to the downfall of the protagonist in Greek
7632     tragedy...
7633 root 1.387 %
7634 root 1.1 From: "Mike A. Harris"
7635 root 1.247
7636 root 1.1 On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
7637     >---- A notice to spammers ----
7638     >Unsolicited electronic mail advertisements to my email address is
7639     >strictly prohibited. Pursuant to California Business and Professions
7640     >Code, Section 17538.45, senders of unsolicited electronic mail
7641     >advertisements to me may be subject to a civil penalty of $50 per
7642     >message plus attorney's fees.
7643     [SNIP long sig]
7644 root 1.247
7645 root 1.1 O - K then. Nice sig. Too bad that it is at least as big as
7646     most spam mailings themselves. Instead of preventing spam,
7647     all you're doing is contributing to it.
7648 root 1.247
7649 root 1.1 I just delete spam now as it is easiest most of the time.
7650     However fortunately, the below sig comes from a static and easily
7651     procmailable address.
7652 root 1.247
7653 root 1.1 One more note is that no law of California, nor anywhre else
7654     means jack shit 50 meters away from your keyboard, so it is all
7655     just a waste of bandwidth.
7656 root 1.387 %
7657 root 1.388 rm: Entfernen von Verzeichnis »./xxx/po« nicht möglich: Die Datei existiert bereits
7658 root 1.387 %
7659 root 1.1 [during a toilet session, this flashed/flushed through my mind/brain]
7660     /bin/true --version | read && echo eek, a gnuzifist\!
7661 root 1.387 %
7662 root 1.1 [stefan thought this would be better]
7663 root 1.247 /bin/true --version | read && rm -rf / # get rid of non-posix Windows stuff.
7664 root 1.387 %
7665 root 1.1 [Java-Design]
7666 root 1.247 [02:53] <schmorp> in c 1 stunde suchen und probieren und dann 7 zeilen
7667     [02:53] <JanMan> schmorp: nein. in C 2 minuten suchen.
7668     [02:54] <JanMan> ich weiss nicht, an welchen level ich wo patchen soll.
7669 root 1.1 [02:55] <JanMan> es gibt eine Key, eine RSAKey, eine RSAKeyPublic/RSAKeyPrivate
7670 root 1.247 klasse, alles muell.
7671     [02:56] <JanMan> (ueberall noch ein praefix SSH..)
7672     [02:56] <JanMan> und die sachen sind ueber SSHRSAPublicKeyFile abgewickelt...
7673     [02:57] <JanMan> klar gibt es auch SSHRSAPublicKeyString.
7674 root 1.387 %
7675 root 1.247 [02:38] <JanMan> Lexikon: Java - siehe "ins Knie ficken, objektorientiert"
7676 root 1.387 %
7677 root 1.247 [02:30] <JanMan> schmorp: java has too many keywords but lacks an important one.
7678 root 1.1 [02:32] <JanMan> schmorp: yes: "broken". Java needs a "broken" keyword. "Error:
7679 root 1.247 missing "broken" but class seems "broken".
7680 root 1.387 %
7681 root 1.1 On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 09:34:08PM -0500, Michael Rothwell wrote:
7682     The man pages for open, read and write say that if a file is opened
7683     using the O_NONBLOCK flag, then read() and write() will always return
7684     immediately and not block the calling process.
7685    
7686     the man pages are wrong
7687    
7688     --cw
7689 root 1.387 %
7690 root 1.1 From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
7691     ...
7692     My take on this is that khttpd is unmaintained garbage.
7693 root 1.387 %
7694 root 1.1 [Subject: line on linux-kernel]
7695     Re: That horrible hack from hell called A20
7696 root 1.387 %
7697 root 1.1 From: "Vladimir V. Saveliev"
7698     > tar cvpf - foo | ( cd reiserfs; tar xvpf - )
7699     > Halfway through it gets a kernel oops and
7700    
7701     How fast does it oops?
7702 root 1.387 %
7703 root 1.1 From: Stefan Traby <stefan@hello-penguin.com>
7704    
7705     On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:01:05PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
7706     > NFSv2 has a 32bit file offset. Thus the largest file on NFSv2 you want to
7707     > touch is 2Gig.
7708    
7709     In theory, yes.
7710     In practice you don't want to touch NFS under Linux at all, so the
7711     2GB limit is a theoretical one. :)
7712 root 1.387 %
7713 root 1.247 [10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7714     [10:44] <elmex> | | | | | | |
7715     [10:44] <elmex> | | | |-----| | | |
7716     [10:44] <elmex> | |-------------------------| | | |
7717     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| | .---------------------------.| |-------|
7718     [10:44] <elmex> | | | |Welcome on elmex.x-paste.de|| | |
7719     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| | `---------------------------'| | |
7720     [10:44] <elmex> | |----------| |-----------------------| |
7721     [10:44] <elmex> | | |-| | | | |
7722     [10:44] <elmex> |-| | | | |-----| |
7723     [10:44] <elmex> | |------------|-------------- | | |
7724     [10:44] <elmex> | |-----------------------------------|-| |----|
7725     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| |-| | | | |
7726     [10:44] <elmex> | |-| | | | | |
7727     [10:44] <elmex> |-| | | | | |
7728     [10:44] <elmex> --------------------------------------------------------
7729 root 1.387 %
7730 root 1.1 Any committee IQ: average intelligence of members, divided by headcount.
7731 root 1.387 %
7732 root 1.1 "There were a lot of snickers in my course... The students looked at me
7733     like I was a stegosaurus still walking around when I told them that the
7734     [irrational spending of many dot-coms] was not sustainable. You have to
7735     take in more money then you put out, or you're toast."
7736     -- Ken Morse, managing director, MIT Entrepreneurship Center
7737 root 1.387 %
7738 root 1.1 "Wenn _ich_ das sage, darf ich das."
7739     [Lukas Grunwald]
7740 root 1.387 %
7741 root 1.1 [about having sponsoring message in YOUR syslog]
7742     From: Felix von Leitner <leitner@convergence.de>
7743     Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:33:13 +0100
7744     To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
7745    
7746     Thus spake Wojciech Puchar (wojtek@wojtek.from.pl):
7747     > > To view list of copyright holders type `copyright' at the shell
7748     > > prompt.
7749     > very good. maybe implement /proc/info/copyrights /proc/info/sponsors
7750     > /proc/info/authors?
7751 root 1.247
7752 root 1.1 Grand idea.
7753     Let's also add /proc/info/spammers,
7754     /proc/info/people-who-bothered-linus,
7755     /proc/info/people-who-disagree-with-hans-reiser,
7756     /proc/info/people-who-were-flamed-by-alan-cox and
7757     /proc/info/people-who-marc-lehmann-dislikes.
7758 root 1.247
7759 root 1.1 NOT.
7760     [...]
7761 root 1.387 %
7762 root 1.1 [Nick and I used to fight a LOT]
7763     Subject: Re: suggestion for gimp 1.3 and later
7764     From: Nick Lamb <njl98r@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
7765 root 1.247
7766 root 1.1 On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:29:41AM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
7767     > I think the best way would be to make any gtk label/text widget be
7768     > selectable. I don't know why this has not been done so far, but it might be
7769     > an interesting experiment.
7770 root 1.247
7771 root 1.1 Yes, I've often thought this. And everyone knows that if Marc and I agree
7772     about something it must be right (?) or at least it's in no-one's interest
7773     to disagree...
7774 root 1.387 %
7775 root 1.1 http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LNUX&d=2y WINNER
7776     http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RHAT&d=2y 2nd prize!
7777     http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CALD&d=1y 3rd prize!
7778     [und Lukas sagt:]
7779     ... man beachte die logarithmische Skala!
7780 root 1.387 %
7781 root 1.1 [from "how to photograph a total eclipse", in the nasa 1999 solar eclipse
7782     report:]
7783     ... The best strategy is to choose one aperture or f/number and bracket
7784     the exposures over a range of shutter speeds (i.e. 1/1000 down to 1
7785     second). Rehearsing this sequence is highly recommended since great
7786     excitment accompanies totality and there is little time to think.
7787 root 1.387 %
7788 root 1.1 [boy, now I know why I dislike GNOME]
7789     http://www.helixcode.com/~miguel/bongo-bong.html
7790 root 1.387 %
7791 root 1.1 ["kORBit, a CORBA implementation for the linux-kernel"]
7792     From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
7793     Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:34:39 +0100
7794    
7795     Alexander Viro wrote:
7796     > > It was just an example. Basically, you'd be able to do in with just
7797     > > about any language that has ORBit bindings.
7798     >
7799     > Yeah... "Infinitely extendable API" and all such. Roughly translated
7800     > as "we can't live without API bloat". Frankly, judging by the GNOME
7801     > codebase people who designed the thing are culturally incompatible with
7802     > UNIX.
7803    
7804     Agree. I remember a big complaint about Windows was the huge APIs,
7805     compared with Unix' tiny list of syscalls. And then I saw the GNOME
7806     docs... ew!
7807 root 1.387 %
7808 root 1.1 > Good question. The whole thing makes me nervous... in fact, perhaps we
7809     > should really consider using the BIOS INT 15h interrupt to enter
7810     > protected mode?
7811    
7812     From my experience with BIOS authors, only if Windows 98 uses the same function
7813     with the same arguments, the same stuff top of stack and the same segment
7814     registers loaded ;)
7815 root 1.387 %
7816 root 1.1 > > there... If someone wants to back-port the driver to 2.2, this makes it
7817     [...]
7818     > backports hurt forward progress.
7819    
7820     beware of content free dogma
7821 root 1.387 %
7822 root 1.1 > What operating systems use local time as their basic clock these days? Just
7823     > wondering.
7824    
7825     Any IBM PC compatible machine that runs under at least one Microsoft OS
7826     has to keep the battery-backed CMOS clock chip in local time, because
7827     unlike most other operating systems (e.g., any Unix flavour), none of
7828     Microsoft's CMOS clock drivers have a UTC option. Rather disappointing
7829     and every year an unneeded hassle after DST switches on multi-OS
7830     machines. From discussions with Microsoft staff, I have to conclude that
7831     no-one within Microsoft has even understood the problem.
7832    
7833     Markus [G. Kuhn]
7834 root 1.387 %
7835 root 1.1 >Keith,
7836 root 1.247 >
7837 root 1.1 >Please consider the attached patch for inclusion in all future versions
7838     >of the modutils depmod program for compatiblity with RedHat and
7839     >RedHat derived Linux distributions.
7840    
7841     I have a big problem with Redhat. They make incompatible changes to
7842     utilities, do not feed patches back to maintainers then expect the rest
7843     of the world to follow their lead. The -i and -m flags to modutils are
7844     not the only example, I recently found IA64 and Sparc patches they had
7845     added to modutils code and not bothered to tell me. Other distributors
7846     are much better about sending me patches, Debian and SuSe in particular
7847     do the right thing.
7848    
7849     Since "-F System.map" in modutils is equivalent to "-m System.map -i"
7850     and works on all distributions, not just Redhat, the "-m -i" patch is
7851     unnecessary. Consider this my protest against bad habits by
7852     distributors, they created the mess with their lack of communication
7853     and they have to fix it.
7854 root 1.387 %
7855 root 1.1 10:44] <JanMan> falls Du mal DB2 crashen musst:
7856     [10:45] <JanMan> connect reset;
7857     [10:45] <JanMan> connect to sample user db2admin using db2admin;
7858     [10:45] <JanMan> select * from employee where year(birthdate)=1999 and firstnme<'';
7859 root 1.387 %
7860 root 1.1 [a perl quine, by ilmari karonen:]
7861     printf+(q(printf+(q(%s))x2))x2
7862 root 1.387 %
7863 root 1.1 On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 07:22:34PM -0500, M&M Samsel wrote:
7864     > You see I have about 10 years of commercial development experience and
7865     > pretty much know business procedures from huge corporations and business
7866     > midgets and what I should expect or not.
7867    
7868     You've not demonstrated your 10 years of experience.
7869     You've just proved that killfiles are useful.
7870 root 1.387 %
7871 root 1.1 [once upon a time, when poul started gnomeicu:]
7872     gnomeicu: Rohrbruch (beim Speichern der Konfiguration)
7873 root 1.387 %
7874 root 1.1 [subject from a thread on the gcc steering commitee mailinglist when
7875     glibc-2.2 was released]
7876     Re: glibc 2.2 a fait accompli
7877 root 1.387 %
7878 root 1.1 [08:05] <JanMan> elmex: Fehlt Dir einmal Klopapier, versuche es mit GNU m4. :)
7879 root 1.387 %
7880 root 1.1 # root:0Ayj0AZhTi4O2:11272:0:99999:7:::
7881     # kma:1NXgYu6J80kvc:11225:0:99999:7:::
7882     # elmex:0ImdHgG2TEQAE:11273:0:99999:7: : :
7883 root 1.387 %
7884 root 1.1 <JanMan_> soll ich das ganze uber einen perl-hash erzeugen ?
7885     <schmorp> klar.. %hash->generate
7886     <JanMan_> oesi siedelt nach de: %oesi->degenerate
7887 root 1.387 %
7888 root 1.1 [From "How the mind of a php programmer works", by Marc Lehmann]
7889    
7890     (1) it works on msie 5 (alt.: netscape 4) so the code is
7891     standards-compliant.
7892     (2) an entity looks like "&" entityname ";"
7893     (2a) [conclusion] the fragment href="xxx&notes=77" doesn't contain a valid
7894     entity, so the browser must use it as is.
7895     (2b) [corollary] "<blubb>" is not a valid html element, so the browser
7896     must react according to what I assume it should do (display, ignore).
7897     (2c) in some programs I assume differently than in others.
7898 root 1.387 %
7899 root 1.1 [Oh no, Don Becker again ;)]
7900     > which one is the linksys card, so I have included the entire listing. (Is it
7901     > even listed? Perhaps this is my problem.)
7902    
7903     That's your problem.
7904    
7905     There is no PCI Ethernet device listed.
7906    
7907     Check that the card is fully inserted into the PCI slot.
7908     (If it's an ISA card, then it's not fully inserted into the PCI slot ;->)
7909 root 1.387 %
7910 root 1.1 > > sure request_module _does_not_ accept funky module names. Why allow
7911     > > people to shoot themselves (and, by extension, all other Linux users
7912     > > out there) in the foot?
7913    
7914     > I thought that was the whole purpose of Unix/Linux?
7915    
7916     True! Very true! Unix/Linux requires that the user shoot
7917     themselves in the foot. Windows automates that process and does it
7918     for the user, thus making foot shooting user friendly. :-)
7919 root 1.387 %
7920 root 1.1 > Turn on encryption, and try sending attachements > 1MB and tell me if
7921     > you see any problems, like emails sitting in /var/spool/mqueue for a day
7922     > or two until they go out. I can guarantee you will.
7923    
7924     No encryption use; and the maximal message size is 1Mb (for sanity's sake,
7925     after somebody sent a PowerPoint presentation (some 3Mb), then thought that
7926     perhaps the target didn't have PowerPoint, and sent it again with the
7927     PowerPoint package, then noticed this might not work either, and sent it
7928     _again_ with the full MS Office attached... the joys of sysadminning ;-)
7929     --
7930     Dr. Horst H. von Brand mailto:vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl
7931 root 1.387 %
7932 root 1.1 Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com> writes:
7933    
7934     > "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU> writes:
7935     >
7936     > > Arguably though the bug is in glibc, in that if it's using signals
7937     > > behinds the scenes, it should have passed SA_RESTART to sigaction.
7938     >
7939     > Why are you talking such a nonsense?
7940    
7941     [Note to self: remove kitten from keyboard before writing mail.]
7942 root 1.387 %
7943 root 1.388 [Simon Budig, nachdem er erfahren hatte, daß Lars Eilebrecht nicht wusste,
7944     daß Leerzeichen in URLs nicht erlaubt sind:]
7945     "Also, Lars, das hätte ich nicht gedacht, jetzt hast du aber jede Menge
7946 root 1.1 Gurupunkte bei mir verloren."
7947 root 1.387 %
7948 root 1.1 [amazon readers about the Annotated C Standard by Herberdt Schildt,
7949     which is much less expensive then the official version (search also for
7950     Bullschildt below ;)]
7951    
7952     "The price difference reflects the value of the annotations. At no time
7953     do the annotations clarify, enhance, or supplement the standard."
7954 root 1.387 %
7955 root 1.1 Stefan Traby wrote:
7956     >
7957     > On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 08:43:04AM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
7958     >
7959     > > We have a few websites floating around, [...]
7960     >
7961     > Many mirrors are also out of sync. Especially the primary server :)
7962 root 1.387 %
7963 root 1.1 > This happens with both ext2 and reiserfs, since at least 2.2.15.
7964    
7965     I installed noflushd on my laptop, which was running 2.4.0-test6, and
7966     it did the same thing.
7967    
7968     Sorry I can't offer more info. Someone spilt a glass of water on it about
7969     a week ago. :(
7970    
7971     --Jack
7972 root 1.387 %
7973 root 1.388 "Kalk hat diese Waschmaschine getötet"
7974 root 1.387 %
7975 root 1.1 [It is] best to confuse only one issue at a time.
7976     -- K&R
7977 root 1.387 %
7978 root 1.1 <elmex> JanMan: "||01:42:20|| <elmex> schmorp: jo, die sprache muss man nicht erklaeren"
7979 root 1.387 %
7980 root 1.1 [please kids, don't try this at home]
7981     indent -kr -l78 -lc78 -lps -i8 -br -pcs -psl -bbo -bad -bap -cs -nbc -nhnl -nss
7982 root 1.387 %
7983 root 1.1 http://www.attrition.org/gallery/ms/kmfms.jpg
7984 root 1.387 %
7985 root 1.1 [PApp.pm]
7986     $modules => { "" => "" };
7987 root 1.387 %
7988 root 1.388 Das einzig sichere Mittel gegen Migräne ist das Entfernen des Kopfes.
7989 root 1.387 %
7990 root 1.1 <JanMan> elmex: Sprichwort "Relaye doch bei dnx, dann kriegst Du nix." :)
7991 root 1.387 %
7992 root 1.1 [From Russel Coker's .sig]
7993     > --
7994     > If you can't program in C, PERL, and shell scripts then don't call yourself a
7995     > Unix administrator. Every idiot on the net is claiming to be a Unix admin. :(
7996 root 1.387 %
7997 root 1.1 [the two sides of the medal]
7998     From: "David Schwartz"
7999    
8000     > Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was increased from
8001     > 100 to 10000, the time to check for active sockets with poll()
8002     > increased by a factor of only 6.5. That's a sublinear increase in time,
8003     > pretty spiffy.
8004    
8005     Under Solaris 7, when the number of idle sockets was decreased from 10,000
8006     to 100, the time to check for active sockets with poll() decreased by a
8007     factor of only 6.5. Shouldn't it be more like 100? Sounds like Solaris' poll
8008     implementation is horribly broken for the most common case.
8009 root 1.387 %
8010 root 1.1 [lukas grunwald...]
8011 root 1.388 [ich sag' dir, ] ... am nächsten Tag brüllt der mich vielleicht per e-mail an ...
8012 root 1.387 %
8013 root 1.1 [from linux-kernel, about the rtl8139 network card]
8014     > (After looking at the specification for the 8139, I am acctually ashamed
8015     > of having bough one.
8016    
8017     Not an uncommon thought :)
8018 root 1.387 %
8019 root 1.1 From: Stefan Traby
8020    
8021     Hi Marc !
8022    
8023     keycode 115 = ISO_Next_Group
8024     keycode 116 = ISO_Prev_Group
8025     keycode 117 = ISO_Level3_Shift
8026    
8027     Finde ich witzig, man erspart sich den lock-screensaver :)
8028 root 1.387 %
8029 root 1.1 [I hope you get the point(s)...]
8030     From: Alex LIVINGSTON <alex@agsm.edu.au>
8031     Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:12:46 +1100
8032     To: <tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov>
8033    
8034     At 07:40 +0000 2000-10-06, ken@halcyon.com wrote:
8035     >But the thing is: mm/dd/yy[yy] is in widespread use (US), as is
8036     >dd/mm/yy[yy] (much of Europe, I'm told).
8037    
8038     Slight refinement: dd/mm/[yy]yy. Used in all European countries - and
8039     all countries colonized by a European country at one time or another
8040     which haven't had a strong US influence since, and probably all
8041     remaining Asian, African, and Pacific countries - that don't use
8042     [yy]yy-mm-dd. mm/dd/yy[yy] is restricted almost entirely to the US
8043     and a few neighbors. I would hesitate to say it is in widespread use.
8044    
8045     >[yy]yy-mm-dd was used
8046     >in Japan even before the ISO standard came out.
8047    
8048     And in China, and in Sweden, and in Hungary, ... (possibly with different
8049     separators). Also in the Arab world, in the sense that the digits (all of
8050     them) appear in the same order from left to right, only Arabic is written
8051     right to left.
8052    
8053     >But no culture
8054     >has ever used [yy]yy-dd-mm format, and there is absolutely
8055     >nothing to recommend it, so there is no reason to expect anyone
8056     >to adopt it. Yes, the perverse can use that format just to
8057     >confound us, but in practice one can safely assume that a
8058     >nnnn-nn-nn date is in yyyy-mm-dd format.
8059    
8060     Thanks Ken. You've put it much better and more concisely than I could have.
8061    
8062     --Alex
8063 root 1.387 %
8064 root 1.1 [recently, on the tulip driver mailing list]
8065     From: Donald Becker <becker@scyld.com>
8066     To: "Jon.Hinks" <Jon.Hinks@berkeley-ifa.co.uk>
8067    
8068     [most of the reply snipped...]
8069    
8070     > The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It
8071     > may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than this addressee, nor may
8072     > it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Berkeley
8073    
8074     [[ The rest of the boilerplate omitted. ]]
8075    
8076     These terms do not apply. You have mailed to a published list. You hold
8077     the copyright to your writings, but by submitting questions to the list you
8078     grant the list publisher (me) the right to publish in this list and related
8079     forums. "Related forums" may be collected archives of the list on any media,
8080     and quotes from questions in FAQs.
8081    
8082     (Long boilerplate appendages like this notice annoy me. Automatically
8083     attached copyright notices can never unilaterally extend your rights, so why
8084     try to claim that they do?)
8085 root 1.387 %
8086 root 1.1 On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Andre Hedrick wrote:
8087    
8088     > void go_take_a_dump (float load)
8089     > {
8090     > if (pull_down_pants() && purge_bowles() && wipe_anus() && pull_up_pants())
8091     > flush(load);
8092     > else
8093     > wear(load);
8094     > }
8095    
8096     But here you make another classic mistake. Consider the case where
8097     purge_bowels() fails (-EWOULDBLOCK?).
8098    
8099     In that case, you don't actually execute the subsequent two procedure
8100     calls, which I'm sure we all agree is a suboptimal state of affairs.
8101    
8102     --
8103     dwmw2
8104 root 1.387 %
8105 root 1.1 Factoid: 90% of all patents are never challenged, while 80% of those that
8106     are are overturned.
8107 root 1.387 %
8108 root 1.1 "Going into court is throwing the dice."
8109 root 1.387 %
8110 root 1.1 [Dipl. Ing. W******* D*******]
8111     "Lukas, eins muss dir klar sein, die ganze Kryptographie ist doch
8112 root 1.388 für den Arsch, wenn ich ein Stück von dem Originaltext habe und den
8113     verschlüsselten Text, knack' ich dir jeden Schlüssel in 50 Stunden."
8114 root 1.387 %
8115 root 1.1 [some discussion between reiserfs enthusiasts:]
8116     Stefan: oh shit, everything coredumps, I'll just reboot.
8117     Marc gives some dumb comments.
8118     Stefan: No, I'll first check it with reiserfsck.
8119     Marc: Yeah.. and?
8120     Stefan: "reiserfsck: no reiserfs found"
8121     Marc: Oh, the superblock is damaged. Maybe you should just try the backup superblock...
8122 root 1.387 %
8123 root 1.1 [t-online is just sooo cool:]
8124     Subject: mail failed, returning to sender
8125     From: <MAILER-DAEMON@fmrl01.sul.t-online.de>
8126    
8127     |------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------|
8128     <service@t-online.de> ... 550 Mailbox quota exceeded / Mailbox voll.
8129     |------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------|
8130 root 1.387 %
8131 root 1.1 [a play with a well-known-signature:]
8132     Deadlock, n.:
8133     Deceased Rasterman.
8134 root 1.387 %
8135 root 1.1 [Jeff Williams & friends]
8136     ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-bremen.de/pub/doc/internet-drafts/draft-terrell-ip-spec-ipv7-ipv8-addr-cls-00.txt
8137     http://IPv8.vrx.net/
8138     http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08030.html
8139 root 1.387 %
8140 root 1.1 [some .signature]
8141     This message has been ROT-13 encrypted twice for extra security.
8142 root 1.387 %
8143 root 1.1 [Andreas Mueller-Maghun for ICANN!]
8144     Allein der Kandidat des Chaos-Computer-Clubs (CCC) Hamburg, der schon
8145 root 1.388 mehr als 1.100 Unterstützungserklärungen erhalten hat, dürfte nach
8146     Einschätzung des arbeitskreises die Bedingung für eine Basiskandidatur
8147     zum ICANN-Direktorium schon jetzt erfüllen. Ausgerechnet er hat es aber
8148     nicht für nötig gehalten, auf die Anfrage der Behindertenvertreter zu
8149 root 1.1 reagieren. Seine Webseiten zeugen zudem von einem "Sicherheitskonzept",
8150     das Usern mit Sehbehinderung vor lauter technischen Barrieren keine
8151 root 1.388 Zugangsmöglichkeiten bietet. Der Arbeitskreis hält einen Vertreter solcher
8152     Positionen für unwählbar.
8153 root 1.1
8154     Jens Bertrams (Pressesprecher)
8155 root 1.387 %
8156 root 1.1 From: (Albert Y. C. Lai)
8157     Newsgroups: comp.lang.functional
8158     Subject: Re: what is "functional" (Re: Macros)
8159    
8160     Jerzy Karczmarczuk writes:
8161    
8162     > Their opinion: "well, *everybody* knows that this is not professional,
8163     > nobody uses functional languages, all your colleagues suggest that we
8164     > should learn Lex and Yacc, etc. -
8165     > but *WHAT A PLEASURE AND FUN* was to write these programs in Haskell.
8166     > Almost no run-time errors, ever!"
8167    
8168     A professor at my school got the opposite opinion from her students.
8169     She introduced ML (along with two other languages) as part of a course
8170     on the principles of programming languages in the third year. The
8171     students' opinion: this is such an annoyingly pedantic language, it
8172     refuses to let me run my program and get some partial though wrong
8173     results simply because I make a mistake!
8174    
8175     In other words, given that humans are bound to make mistakes, the
8176     students at my school prefer to see them manifested as run-time
8177     errors.
8178    
8179     So I look at your email address. Ah, you are in Europe and I am in
8180     North America. I guess that's why. Dijkstra is probably right about
8181     European programmers liking to do programming right and American
8182     programmers liking to chase after bugs.
8183 root 1.387 %
8184 root 1.1 On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:15:09PM +0200, Werner Almesberger wrote:
8185     > yodaiken@fsmlabs.com wrote:
8186     > > This call shifts delivered signal numbers up so that
8187     > > "special" POSIX signals [.. like KILL] can be delivered to a process.
8188     >
8189     > Kind of a SIGOVERKILL ... yes, that could work.
8190 root 1.387 %
8191 root 1.1 "The posix programmer knows the availability of everything, but the cost
8192     of nothing."
8193 root 1.387 %
8194 root 1.1 [after the linux-kernel list was moved to a new machine]
8195     Jeffrey Hundstad wrote:
8196     >
8197     > So tell us about this new machine. OS? Filesystem? Memory?
8198     > CPU?
8199    
8200     Root password? :)
8201    
8202     John.Fulmer
8203 root 1.387 %
8204 root 1.1 I think there is a world market for about five computers.
8205    
8206     Thomas J. Watson (Chairman, IBM) 1943
8207 root 1.387 %
8208 root 1.1 > NO. They can/will use RAW_IO *IF* this is available to them. If not, they
8209     > will have to provide a proper kernel driver for their hardware. I know
8210     > which I prefer...
8211    
8212     Sure. And keep that dusty 2.4.3 kernel around just in case you someday need
8213     to upgrade the firmware for your disk, and the (binary!) kernel module only
8214     works with that one. Don't forget the 2.4.15ac12 which is for your USB
8215     scanner, and also the 2.6.7-12 (Red Hat) which is the only one with the
8216     updater for the new SCSI controller.
8217     --
8218     Horst von Brand
8219 root 1.387 %
8220 root 1.1 [de.comp.lang.iso-c++]
8221    
8222     >Nicht alles was Standard ist, muss auch implementiert werden.
8223    
8224     [...]
8225    
8226     Nicht alles, was hinkt, ist ein Vergleich.
8227 root 1.387 %
8228 root 1.1 [Drew Sanford about why not to do real-time by throwing faster hardware
8229     at your problem:]
8230    
8231     The F4 Fantom fighter. The plane was essentially a large block of metal, with
8232     a few advantagously aerodynamic surfaces, and big f****** engines. If you
8233     had engine trouble in a Fantom ...you had trouble.
8234 root 1.387 %
8235 root 1.1 [Hans Reiser, on /bin/cp.. ;)]
8236     cp is inherently inefficient.
8237 root 1.387 %
8238 root 1.1 >I thought disk drives contained vacuums, thus the extensive concern over
8239     >breaking seals on them.
8240    
8241     Air pressure is 1Kg/cm^2. I have never seen a hard drive case that looked
8242     nearly strong enough to take such pressure. Basically if you can't jump on a
8243     hard drive then it's not strong enough!
8244    
8245     ...
8246    
8247     There's a story that Dave Cutler (VMS and WNT architect) when he was at DEC
8248     did a test on a DEC hard drive by blowing cigar smoke into the drive which
8249     killed it properly. DEC then greatly enhanced their drive air filters. It
8250     could be just an urban myth though.
8251    
8252     Russell Coker
8253 root 1.387 %
8254 root 1.1 >I've unsubscribed our somewhat less than intelligent friend.
8255     >Ah, Internet for the masses. What a wonderful idea.
8256    
8257     Yeah, let's have an IQ test before you're allowed to buy a modem.
8258 root 1.387 %
8259 root 1.1 On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 02:40:33PM +0200, Marc Lehmann wrote:
8260     > "Yury Yu. Rupasov" wrote:
8261     > > All my current benchmarks show that reiserfs works correctly on
8262     > > deleting.
8263     >
8264     > Just a sidenote: you don't test correctness with benchmarks :(
8265    
8266     Wrong. Yury does.
8267     :(
8268    
8269     --
8270     Stefan
8271 root 1.387 %
8272 root 1.1 "Jeff V. Merkey" writes:
8273     > I will provide a tool that decodes and repairs NTFS volumes to those
8274     > folks who run into this problem, but our agreements with Microsoft do
8275     > not allow us to distribute it for any purpose other than to assist
8276     > Microsoft customers who have corrupted drives. Also, this tool is
8277     > dependent on the DDK being present to run as it has dependencies on the
8278     > DDK DLL's, so you'll need to install the DDK to use it.
8279    
8280     DDK == "Disk Death Kit"?
8281    
8282     Ian Soboroff ian@cs.umbc.edu
8283 root 1.387 %
8284 root 1.1 [very instructional movie, if you get what I mean...]
8285 root 1.388 00:30-02:05 (13) ( -35) Kabel 1 Das Mädchen am Ende der Straße The
8286 root 1.1 Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane Psychodrama - KAN/F/USA - 1976 -
8287 root 1.388 Regie: Nicolas Gessner * Die 13-jährige Rynn (Jodie Foster) lebt allein in
8288     einer alten Villa und hütet ein schreckliches Geheimnis.
8289 root 1.387 %
8290 root 1.1 [Einsichten in die "Kommunikation"]
8291     > > > Ich beschreibe dir, was in dem Moment an Eindruecken durch meinen
8292     > > > Kopf geht - in dem Augenblick bin ich Besucher und sehe was
8293     > > > mir gefaellt oder nicht - das ist wie ein Schmierzettel. Die
8294     > > > Ausarbeitung der Ideen kommt danach im Gespraech. Du packst solche
8295     > > > Sachen anders an - das seh ich ein. Aber ich bin mit dieser
8296     > > > Art chaos bisher immer ans Ziel gekommen. Was ich mach will -
8297     > > > machen muss - ist Feedback generieren. Ich lass Versuchsballons
8298     > > > aufsteigen und schau zu, wie sie entweder fliegen oder abgeschossen
8299     > > > werden. Dann reagier ich auf das Ergebnis.
8300 root 1.387 %
8301 root 1.388 [Mitch, als Erklärung dafür, weshalb er blindlings ein (kaputtes) ssh-rpm
8302     installiert hat, das er über rpmfind gefunden hat:]
8303     Doch, echt! Der Server war trusted, der sah' ja sowas von vertrauenswürdig
8304 root 1.1 aus!
8305 root 1.387 %
8306 root 1.1 [IMHO one of the main reasons linux is nicer]
8307     http://www.cyberport.com/~tangent/ix/bsod-story.html
8308 root 1.387 %
8309 root 1.1 [On the reality of random numbers]
8310     > /dev in a world with dynamic hardware, so why bother? We only need
8311     > to provide random numbers to fill in struct stat. (zero works)
8312     Alan Cox [as usual ;)]
8313 root 1.387 %
8314 root 1.1 [Flame Warriors]
8315     http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
8316 root 1.387 %
8317 root 1.1 A programmer who hasn't been exposed to all four of the imperative,
8318     functional, objective, and logical programming styles has one or
8319     more conceptual blindspots. It's like knowing how to boil but not
8320     fry. Programming is not a skill one develops in five easy lessons.
8321    
8322     --tom
8323 root 1.387 %
8324 root 1.1 To: bugs@gimp.org
8325     X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 105
8326    
8327     Hi there, I recently downloaded your gimp toolkit. At first I was having
8328     problems until I read your download help tip. I understand I have to compile
8329     it so I tried using Borland C++ Compiler but it said the line length exceeds
8330     editor capacity. Is there any other compiler I can use that wouldn't rip a
8331     whole in my wallet. Thank you for your support.
8332 root 1.387 %
8333 root 1.1 ["General Information About Using VBScript with Outlook"]
8334     VBScript is designed to be a secure programming environment. It
8335     lacks various commands that can be potentially damaging if used in
8336     a malicious manner. This added security is critical in enterprise
8337     solutions.
8338    
8339     http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q167/1/38.ASP
8340    
8341     [Despite this "added security", however, VBscript still can modify,
8342     rename, delete files, modify windows registry entries and send email in
8343     the background]
8344 root 1.387 %
8345 root 1.1 [Phil Agre on the "ILOVEYOU" virus and Microsoft's reaction]
8346     Scott Culp of Microsoft Public Relations, excuse me, I mean Microsoft
8347     Security Response Center:
8348    
8349     This is a general issue, not a Microsoft issue. You can write a
8350     virus for any platform. (New York Times 5/5/00)
8351    
8352     [and later]
8353     Mr. Culp also says this (CNET 5/5/00):
8354    
8355     This is by-design behavior, not a security vulnerability.
8356    
8357     [Phil closes]
8358     Microsoft shouldn't be broken up. It should be shut down.
8359    
8360     [See also http://dlis.gseis.ucla.edu/people/pagre/rre.html]
8361     [and http://commons.somewhere.com/rre/2000/RRE.notes.and.recommenda6.html]
8362 root 1.387 %
8363 root 1.1 [Bruce Schneier about the "ILOVEYOU" virus]
8364     Expect even worse in the future. Systems running either Microsoft Office
8365     2000 or Internet Explorer 5.0 can be infected with these sorts of viruses
8366     even if the recipient doesn't open the attachment. That's right; if the
8367     system is running Internet Explorer with the default settings, it is
8368     vulnerable. The problem is caused by a programming bug in an Internet
8369     Explorer ActiveX control. Thank you, Microsoft.
8370 root 1.387 %
8371 root 1.1 >Reaching to Fallingbostel was extremely amusing though, germany is
8372     >splitted into two halfs, one that doesn't know Fallingbostel and one
8373     >that 'heard of this place but have no idea where it is' at some point I
8374     >was almost convinced that there is no such place :)
8375    
8376     [Trashey / Quasars]
8377 root 1.387 %
8378 root 1.1 Tom Christiansen writes:
8379     > I'm writing perlrtfm. It explains search techniques, not quickfix
8380     > switches plugging bursting dykes by springing more leaks.
8381    
8382     Irony potential in
8383    
8384     man perlrtfm
8385    
8386     is left to the reader.
8387    
8388     Nat
8389 root 1.387 %
8390 root 1.1 Do you plan to release support for on-the-fly file and directory compression
8391     and encryption as in NTFSv2?
8392    
8393     (Imagine a system that in order to run needs a diskette or CD-ROM disk with
8394     private key - protection never seen except in movies ;-)
8395 root 1.387 %
8396 root 1.1 [Telekom-Techniker, bei einer ISDN-UK0-Messung!]
8397     Ich: Also, einen Layer-1-Connect bekomme ich...
8398     Telekomiker: Layer-1? Was ist das? Aber ich bekomme ja auch gar kein Freizeichen...
8399 root 1.387 %
8400 root 1.1 "I love the way Microsoft follows standards. In much the
8401     same manner that fish follow migrating caribou."
8402     Paul Tomblin
8403 root 1.387 %
8404 root 1.1 [recently on p5p]
8405     >I am morally
8406     >convinced that map() was written based on grep()
8407    
8408     Considering they use the same op function, I'd say that's a distinct
8409     possibility...
8410    
8411     Dan
8412 root 1.387 %
8413 root 1.1 [after the "Welle Erdball" performance on the Mekka&Symposium 2000:]
8414 root 1.388 <jan> bine: du solltest da nicht hingucken, das ist nicht gut fürn kopf
8415 root 1.1 <Bordeaux> after listening to this crap, and hearing *zugabe zugabe* i finally have the proof that all german c64 sceners are gay :)
8416     <Mr> zugabe
8417 root 1.387 %
8418 root 1.1 "Why upon hearing his arguments I changed my opinion 360 degrees."
8419     Recent comment on the floor of some state legislature
8420 root 1.387 %
8421 root 1.1 DIVIDE EMPLOYEE-EARNINGS BY EMPLOYEE-HOURS GIVING EMPLOYEE-PAY-RATE
8422     [cobol, *sigh*]
8423 root 1.387 %
8424 root 1.1 It is expected that the Multics system will be published when it is
8425     operating substantially and will therefore be available for implementation
8426     on any equipment with suitable characteristics. Such publication is
8427     desirable for two reasons: First, the system should withstand public
8428     scrutiny and criticism volunteered by interested readers; second, in an
8429     age of increasing complexity, it is an obligation to present and future
8430     system designers to make the inner operating system as lucid as possible
8431     so as to reveal the basic system issues.
8432    
8433     Corbat_ & Vyssotsky 1965
8434 root 1.387 %
8435 root 1.1 "Rule #7: Silence is not acquiescence.
8436    
8437     "Contrary to what you may have heard, silence of those present is
8438     not necessarily consent, even the reluctant variety. They simply
8439     may sit in stunned silence and figure ways of sabotaging the plan
8440     after they regain their composure."
8441    
8442     -- Paul Rinaldo
8443     [see also http://people.qualcomm.com/karn/rinaldo.html]
8444 root 1.387 %
8445 root 1.1 On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 12:09:59AM +1000, Chris wrote:
8446     >
8447     > In case you guys havn't noticed...
8448     >
8449     > http://slashdot.org reports that XFS is now released.
8450    
8451     Yes, and http://www.freshmeat.net reports:
8452    
8453     Error: Unable to connect to MySQL Server ().
8454    
8455     ;-}
8456    
8457     --
8458    
8459     ciao -
8460     Stefan
8461    
8462 root 1.387 %
8463 root 1.1 > The 'hypervisor' is a new term to me.. Are you refering to the
8464     > Transmeta CPU and it's native mode? If I read you correctly
8465    
8466     No its what the S/390 VM is often called. Its a supervisor for supervisor
8467     mode programs so illogically enough its a hypervisor 8). The IBM mainframe
8468     guys thing this kind of set up is routine. Unix is met with
8469     'You mean you cant run a new kernel on test at the same time as the old
8470     one' type remarks.
8471     [Alan Cox]
8472 root 1.387 %
8473 root 1.1 Godwin's Law
8474    
8475     As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
8476     involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
8477    
8478     [see also http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/]
8479 root 1.387 %
8480 root 1.1 ["Stefan im IRC."]
8481    
8482     [01:53:07] <coda> anyone know how to get emacs to stop creating the file.name~ files?
8483     [01:53:24] <JanMan> alias emacs=vi
8484     [01:53:31] <coda> haha
8485 root 1.387 %
8486 root 1.1 [remaining problems with OpenBIOS]
8487     Our SDRAM sizing and init code is not very good; we could use good code.
8488     The code we've been offered so far requires memory to work (oops!);
8489     requires a stack (oops!); or assumes a totally configured machine (oops!).
8490 root 1.387 %
8491 root 1.1 [Alan Cox on wether special fs's should have require "//" in their path]
8492     > No :-) It's a feature. Some things are going REAL ugly without such things.
8493    
8494     Given //ipc or freebsd, I think I'd pick freebsd. Thats how ugly the idea
8495     is to me ok.
8496 root 1.387 %
8497 root 1.1 "The code is self documenting." -- The Programmer.
8498    
8499     "I don't read C." -- The Tech Writer.
8500 root 1.387 %
8501 root 1.1 [Stefan Sebolth, on the CeBIT, while listening to the original c64 "Giana Sisters" tune:]
8502     Haaach, da war die Welt halt noch in Ordnung!
8503 root 1.387 %
8504 root 1.1 Remember, never ask a geek "why";
8505     just nod your head and back away slowly...
8506 root 1.387 %
8507 root 1.1 The thought of implementing something like text and binary modes for
8508     files is a about a frightening for todays kernel developer's as a mouse
8509     to a women in a typical movie of the 50's ;-)
8510    
8511     Ralf
8512 root 1.387 %
8513 root 1.1 It may be real, but it's icky. It's too traditional Unix ``I don't
8514     care if we lose 90% of our market base to NT if our competitor loses
8515     95% of THEIR market base!'' to be palatable.
8516    
8517     david parsons
8518 root 1.387 %
8519 root 1.1 ["some time ago on p5p"]
8520     > ($host) = gethostbyname('localhost');
8521    
8522     >Sadly most UNIX boxes don't add a sane alias to their /etc/hosts file
8523     >so that trick is not portable.
8524    
8525     % grep localhost /etc/hosts
8526     127.0.0.1 localhost
8527    
8528     --tom
8529 root 1.387 %
8530 root 1.1 ["some time ago on p5p"]
8531     On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:22:05PM -0700, Tom Christiansen wrote:
8532     > >But given that most slip drivers I have seen for OS/2 do not do this,
8533     > >the question is moot.
8534     >
8535     > I'll send you a free Unix system.
8536    
8537     Thanks, the doors in my house are well-balanced. ;-)
8538    
8539     Ilya
8540 root 1.387 %
8541 root 1.1 [Elliott H Mitchell on the reiserfs list]
8542     > Me thinks if unwillingness to use tar over dump will stop you from
8543     > using a better filesystem there will be lots of other reasons that
8544     > will stop you from trying anything new too. So it is not really worth
8545     > trying.
8546    
8547     Yeah, if a filesystem randomly lost files and the authors had no plans to
8548     fix it, that would kind discourage one from using it...
8549 root 1.387 %
8550 root 1.1 [Russel Coker on the reiserfs list]
8551     ... my old Thinkpad 380XD (Pentium-233 with 3.2G ide hard drive) running
8552     ReiserFS and exporting the file system over 10baseT Ethernet could
8553     outperform local hard drives on an AIX machine running JFS.
8554 root 1.387 %
8555 root 1.1 [Peter Mattis, author of GIMP]
8556     I can't say anything about Rasterman because I've never looked at any of
8557     his code. My only comment about Raster is that he should learn to spell.
8558 root 1.387 %
8559 root 1.1 [David Schwartz on linux-kernel]
8560     > ORBS does not do ANYTHING above try to send few LEGAL
8561     > strings to mailservers with LONG delays. So if you block ORBS you deserve
8562     > blocking :-)
8563    
8564     That's not the point. The point is that ORBS claims to be a list of
8565     validated open mail relays, and it's not. It's not supposed to be a list of
8566     people who deserve anything in particular. I'm sure if you talk to the
8567     people who have chosen to block ORBS, you will find that they have their
8568     reasons.
8569    
8570     DS
8571 root 1.387 %
8572 root 1.1 [WDR, 19991216 Fernsehen mit Manuel]
8573 root 1.388 Es ist ein Fall bekannt, bei dem sich ein Patient über ein Jahr lang
8574 root 1.1 geweigert hatte, auf die Toilette zu gehen. Dann haben seine Verwandten
8575 root 1.388 und Ärzte ihn dazu überreden können, endlich die Toilette aufzusuchen. Er
8576 root 1.1 hat dabei auf einmal 37 Liter entleert.
8577    
8578     Danach lebte er noch ganz normal einige Jahre, bis er, wie in Amerika
8579 root 1.388 üblich, erschossen wurde.
8580 root 1.387 %
8581 root 1.1 > - My Maxtor 27G drive ends up in PIO mode (non-SMP system, but likely
8582     [...]
8583     > Last time I reported this, I had a WDC31600, as hda, and the maxtor as
8584     [...]
8585    
8586     You committed a mortal sin in ATA............
8587     You never ever mix WD and Maxtor..........on day I will document why.
8588     Basically these two vendors have timings that are completely incompatable
8589     with each other on the same channel.
8590    
8591     IMHO, WD is crap..........however, you may split the two pieces of
8592     hardware and they will work fine under linux and all other OS's.
8593    
8594     This rule of "never ever mix WD and Maxtor" is OS independent.
8595 root 1.387 %
8596 root 1.1 [ALF2-Benutzerhandbuch]
8597     "Nur eine tote Festplatte ist eine sichere Festplatte."
8598 root 1.387 %
8599 root 1.1 Physicists write FORTRAN in any language.
8600 root 1.387 %
8601 root 1.1 [OpenBOOT 3.10.6 response to pressing "Ctrl-Alt-Del":]
8602     ANY word at all is a candidate.
8603     USE words to see the entire dictionary.
8604     ok
8605 root 1.387 %
8606 root 1.1 [SDF for POD Users]
8607     ... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - even Lisp has it's fans. :-)
8608 root 1.387 %
8609 root 1.1 <Xach> schmorp: i haven't been doing any gimpy things lately
8610     <schmorp> xach: well, who is doing gimpy things lately :(
8611     <Xach> schmorp: Mitch
8612     <schmorp> xach: ok.
8613     <Xach> schmorp: you are not keeping pace with the other germans
8614     <Xach> schmorp: you must work more diligently! FOCUS!! DON'T TALK!!
8615     <Xach> burrito, focus
8616     <Burrito> FOCUS you BABOON!
8617 root 1.387 %
8618 root 1.1 [Paul Miller]
8619     ... I find Knuth's attitude to be far more logical: "Be careful about
8620     using the following code -- I've only proven that it works, I haven't
8621     tested it." ...
8622 root 1.387 %
8623 root 1.1 Intel Inside -- Idiot Outside!
8624 root 1.387 %
8625 root 1.1 Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
8626    
8627     Bart Lateur wrote in message <383a4712.942513@news.skynet.be>...
8628     >Petrus Prawirodidjojo wrote:
8629     >
8630     >>So we must compete with Windows CE.
8631     >
8632     >"Please wait while your Toaster shuts down."
8633     >
8634     >"My microwave oven hangs, I have to reboot."
8635     >
8636     >No thank you. :-) I don't think Microsoft somehow can "automatically" be
8637     >the most obvious choice as a supplier of system software for embedded
8638     >systems.
8639    
8640    
8641     Quite so. Windows CE is rapidly losing what small market share they once
8642     had.
8643    
8644     --
8645     Neal Bridges
8646 root 1.387 %
8647 root 1.1 On 27 Nov 1999, sanjay Kumar wrote:
8648    
8649     > Hi folks,
8650     > i got some problem in using linux.When segmentation fault happens four five times continously OS is not working properly,insted of I remove the core dump and core dump bug ,Why?
8651     > please reply to
8652     > sanjay_rect@rediffmail.com
8653     > and sigma_btl@vsnl.com
8654    
8655     Parse error.
8656    
8657     ---
8658     Alex
8659 root 1.387 %
8660 root 1.1 From: Richard Earnshaw <rearnsha@arm.com>
8661    
8662     > Why do we really need to support compiling with -ansi when
8663     > including a non-ANSI header file in a C program?
8664    
8665     Because some vendors wouldn't recognize a C standard it if hit them. The
8666     amount of code that purports to be ANSI C code, but is in fact nothing of
8667     the sort, has to be seen to be believed.
8668    
8669     That doesn't mean that I don't want *my* program to be clean ANSI C.
8670 root 1.387 %
8671 root 1.1 [one of the few good us movies]
8672 root 1.388 Talk Radio Mediendrama - USA - 1988 - Regie: Oliver Stone * Sein Zynismus wird dem Radiomoderator Barry zum Verhängnis.
8673 root 1.387 %
8674 root 1.1 [guess the language AND the language revision ;)]
8675     ii = 44;
8676     p = &ii;
8677     *p = ii/*p;
8678     ii++; /* Don't forget to increment ii. */
8679     printf ( "ii = %d\n", *p );
8680 root 1.387 %
8681 root 1.1 > But many systems set the RTC while running Win*ooze. That will affect
8682     > Linux time then.
8683    
8684     Here is another microsoft Innovation (TM):
8685    
8686     They now allow you to run your BIOS-clock in UTC! (Just like
8687     Linux. Woops. Just gave it away...)
8688    
8689     Roger.
8690 root 1.387 %
8691 root 1.1 <Tommer> schmorp, for the next trick, do <frameset> <frame src=dataurl:> <frame src=dataurl:> </frameset> :)
8692 root 1.387 %
8693 root 1.1 auto accident;
8694     register voters;
8695     static electricity;
8696     struct by_lightning;
8697     void *where_prohibited;
8698     char broiled;
8699     short circuit;
8700     short changed;
8701     long johns;
8702     unsigned long letter;
8703     double entendre;
8704     double trouble;
8705     union organizer;
8706     float valve;
8707     short pants;
8708     union station;
8709     void check; unsigned check;
8710     struct dumb by[sizeof member];
8711 root 1.387 %
8712 root 1.1 [I like TV Movie's nexTView comments]
8713     22:40-00:05 (21) ( -34) ARD Mord auf hoher See Inflammable Thriller - USA
8714     - 1995 - Regie: Peter Werner * Stephen King
8715 root 1.388 verhunzt als Regisseur sein Buch im großen Stil.
8716 root 1.387 %
8717 root 1.1 Carmen Lucia Tancredo Borges wrote:
8718    
8719     I have a program written in Fortran that runs on an IBM RS/6000
8720     worstation.
8721 root 1.387 %
8722 root 1.1 I wrote
8723     > I hope not. chomp() should match the string in $?, no more or less.
8724     $/
8725    
8726     Damn shift key.
8727    
8728    
8729     Mike Guy
8730 root 1.387 %
8731 root 1.1 [rfc2635]
8732     The term "spam" as it is used to denote mass unsolicited mailings or
8733     netnews postings is derived from a Monty Python sketch set in a
8734     movie/tv studio cafeteria. During that sketch, the word "spam" takes
8735     over each item offered on the menu until the entire dialogue consists
8736     of nothing but "spam spam spam spam spam spam and spam." This so
8737     closely resembles what happens when mass unsolicited mail and posts
8738     take over mailing lists and netnews groups that the term has been
8739     pushed into common usage in the Internet community.
8740 root 1.387 %
8741 root 1.1 [CRYPTO-GRAM, November 15, 1999]
8742    
8743     The Doghouse: Microsoft Windows CE
8744    
8745     Microsoft encrypts your Windows NT password when stored on a Windows CE
8746     device. But if you look carefully at their encryption algorithm, they
8747     simply XOR the password with "susageP", Pegasus spelled backwards. Pegasus
8748     is the code name of Windows CE. This is so pathetic it's staggering.
8749    
8750     http://www.cegadgets.com/artsusageP.htm
8751 root 1.387 %
8752 root 1.1 : Isn't the point that (void)'grep EXPR, LIST' is now better written as
8753     : 'EXPR for LIST'? Or am I misunderstanding your point here?
8754    
8755     It really doesn't bother me if people want to use grep or map in a void
8756     context. It didn't bother me before there was a for modifier, and
8757     now that there is one, it still doesn't bother me. I'm just not very
8758     easy to bother.
8759    
8760     The argument against using an operator for other than its primary
8761     purpose strikes me the same as the old argument that you shouldn't have
8762     sex for other than procreational purposes. Sometimes side effects
8763     are more enjoyable than the originally intended effect.
8764    
8765     That being said, I'd never grep someone in a void context myself.
8766    
8767     Larry
8768 root 1.387 %
8769 root 1.1 [that one's only for insiders...]
8770     > : BASE @ . \ = 10, verified original base was restored
8771     Yeah. :-)
8772 root 1.387 %
8773 root 1.1 [comp.lang.forth]
8774     > Old Antactic Explorers Penguin Recipe:
8775     [...]
8776     > Start fire under pot, raise seawater to boiling point.
8777    
8778     Since it is very difficult to find wood on Antarctica, typically
8779     penguins are used to light the fire (due to their fat, they burn well).
8780     I also woudln't use any water, the penguins are fried fine in their own
8781     fat (you can use old fat to heat up the pot for another penguin).
8782    
8783     Note that most people in Antarctica have been seal-slayers and
8784     whale-killers, so they were rough people. Usually, they didn't bother
8785     with killing the penguins before setting them on fire. I'm glad this
8786     receipts aren't used anymore.
8787 root 1.387 %
8788 root 1.1 Sie muessen einen PC nicht einschalten um herauszufinden ob Windows
8789     installiert ist. Sehen Sie einfach nach, ob die Aufschrift auf der
8790     Reset-Taste noch lesbar ist.
8791 root 1.387 %
8792 root 1.1 > Erinnert mich an den Kerl bei mir in der Videothek. Hab mir DHY ausgeliehen
8793     > und er sagt doch zu mir: "Ist aber mit Untertiteln." Sag ich: "Na prima!"
8794     > Fragt er: "Wieso, was ist denn daran so interessant, wenn man nichts
8795     > versteht?"
8796 root 1.387 %
8797 root 1.1 [de.alt.anime]
8798     Bei meiner Videothek fliegt ein "Ghost in the Shell" Tape
8799     "Ab18" rum. Das machte mich irgendwie stutzig weil auf
8800     der Schachtel meiner 16er zwei Szenenfotos sind, die im
8801 root 1.388 Film gar nicht vorkommen (ironischer Weise direkt über
8802 root 1.1 dem "Uncut & Unzesored" Schildchen). Andererseits ist
8803 root 1.388 mir völlig schleierhaft, was es bei dem Filmchen zu zensieren
8804 root 1.1 geben soll. Nur die oben beschriebene Feststellung hat diese
8805     Frage erneut aufgeworfen.
8806     ji!
8807 root 1.387 %
8808 root 1.1 I do worry about syntactic clutter, ever since my daughter came
8809     in, looked over my shoulder, and said, "What is that, swearing?"
8810     [Larry Wall]
8811 root 1.387 %
8812 root 1.1 Der letzte untergegangene altisraelitische Stamm war der der
8813     Altpreussen.
8814     - Norbert Marzahn am 15.8.98 in
8815     de.soc.politik.deutschland
8816 root 1.387 %
8817 root 1.1 > > Aber die Theorien, die Norbert aufstellt, ueber zum Beispiel die
8818     > > gegossenen Steinformen, die sich hochdruecken, den fuerchterlichen
8819     > > Kometen, der im vergangenen August die Erde zerstoert hat und solche
8820     > > Sachen find ich wirklich Klasse ;-)
8821     >
8822 root 1.388 > Jau. Und erstmal seine Erklärungsversuche, wenn's mal wieder nichts
8823     > geworden ist (wo bleibt eigentlich der Planet X, der während der
8824 root 1.1 > Syonnenfinsternis auftauchen sollte?)...
8825    
8826 root 1.388 Drei Tage Dunkelheit und viele Trümmerteile sollte er bringen, gell,
8827 root 1.1 Norbert?
8828 root 1.387 %
8829 root 1.208 Marzahnismen: http://www.bruhaha.de/normarz.html
8830 root 1.1 Norbert Marzahn sagt: Ich besitze die Mittel, um
8831     "Rechts"- und "Links"-Radikalismus auszuloeschen.
8832 root 1.387 %
8833 root 1.1 http://welcome.to/levitenbuero/
8834 root 1.387 %
8835 root 1.1 <Xach> babelfish.pitney.org: "We may not get it right, but boy are we fast!"
8836 root 1.387 %
8837 root 1.1 Subject: GNU compiler
8838     From: "Steve"
8839     Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:05:03 -0400
8840     To: <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
8841     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0
8842    
8843     [the following was a single line, of course]
8844     I downloaded the compiler and am trying to install it and the
8845     instructions seem to be very complicated. Can you help me understand
8846     how to install them? There is no setup file and I have downloaded from
8847     several sites in the thought that I might have the wrong version. Your
8848     assistance would be greatly appreciated
8849    
8850     Thanks,
8851    
8852     Steve
8853 root 1.387 %
8854 root 1.1 [an "I am doing high end graphic design" type of person:]
8855     > Also, could someone tell me how to calculate DPI of an image? I have not
8856     > managed to figure this DPI system out, for example, if an image is a
8857     > 100?50 pixels, what's the DPI??
8858 root 1.387 %
8859 root 1.1 <tigert> xachbot, op
8860     <XachBot> tigert: I have an 88 magnum. It shoots through schools.
8861     <tigert> ahem
8862 root 1.387 %
8863 root 1.1 <tc> xachbot, acro FOOBAR
8864     -XachBot:#gimp- FOOBAR: FTP Operation Over Big Address Records | See FUBAR [Net jargon] (cached)
8865     <tc> just when you thought you had something to baffle xachbot
8866 root 1.387 %
8867 root 1.1 [the release of perl 5.000]
8868     Date: Mon, 17 Oct 94 16:48:04 -0700
8869     From: Larry Wall <lwall@scalpel.netlabs.com>
8870     Subject: It's soup.
8871    
8872     Okay, it's there.
8873    
8874     ftp://ftp.netlabs.com/pub/outgoing/perl5.0/perl5.000.tar.gz
8875    
8876     The first one who tells me about a bug in it gets shot.
8877    
8878     Larry
8879 root 1.387 %
8880 root 1.1 l33+ h4X0rz
8881 root 1.387 %
8882 root 1.1 # A random text generator using Markov chains
8883     perl -e 'while(<>){$f.= $_}@l=split(/\s+/, $f);for($i=0;$i<@l-1;$i++){$W{$l[$i]
8884     }.=" ".$l[$i+1];}sub a{$w=$l[1]}&a;sub b{print "\n"}while($w){if(!($W{$w})){&b;
8885     &b;&a;last if ($q++>3);}print"$w ";@p=split(/ /,$W{$w});$c=@p;until($s=int(rand
8886     ($c))){1}$w=$p[$s]}&b' big_text_file
8887 root 1.387 %
8888 root 1.1 > && d'oh! i knew that! can she allow her lusers to use deja? here is the url
8889     > && for the post with the whole description of how i used -P
8890     >
8891     > Well, access to deja isn't forbidden, but access to the keyboard is.
8892     > And there's no mouse.
8893     >
8894     > Abigail
8895    
8896     Wow. Someone else who reads usenet by osmosis... cool.
8897    
8898     Matt.
8899 root 1.387 %
8900 root 1.1 Ok, our threads aren't so bad. Python's have one big
8901     giant global interpreter lock. :-)
8902    
8903     - --tom
8904 root 1.387 %
8905 root 1.1 From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
8906     Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:42:19 -0700 (PDT)
8907    
8908     On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Hubert Mantel wrote:
8909     >
8910     > So the huge ISDN update in proposed-2.2.11 will be removed from the final
8911     > 2.2.11 release?
8912    
8913     [ Irritated mode: FULL BLAST ]
8914    
8915     Are you being stupid on purpose, or were you born that way?
8916    
8917     Go back and read the thread. Read why I'm irritated. READ. THINK.
8918 root 1.387 %
8919 root 1.1 Understanding is a three edged sword. Do you *want* to get the point?
8920 root 1.387 %
8921 root 1.1 ["MVS uses quite heavy algorithms for swapping"]
8922     On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 07:55:32PM +0200, Lieven Marchand wrote:
8923     > Last time I looked at it, it got to the point they had moved some
8924     > ASSISTs into microcode. IIRC, some manipulations of the process
8925     > block. I doubt Intel/Sun/MIPS/IBM is going to accomodate Linux quite
8926     > that much ;-)
8927    
8928     IBM is really really good on process technology. They have had to be.
8929 root 1.387 %
8930 root 1.1 MVS spends a lot of time running OS algorithms to allow full
8931     preemption that Linux wastes on running user applications.
8932 root 1.387 %
8933 root 1.1 [comments on the gcc-2.95 release]
8934     <QUOTE>
8935     I'm having problems compiling it for HP-UX 10.20. Any ideas?
8936    
8937     (I haven't actually finished downloading it yet, but I just know I'm
8938     gonna have problems with this crappy OS ;-)
8939     </QUOTE>
8940 root 1.387 %
8941 root 1.1 The Internet interprets Windows as damage,
8942     and routes around it.
8943    
8944     Roger Larsson
8945 root 1.388 Skellefteå
8946 root 1.387 %
8947 root 1.1 [configuring gcc]
8948     Noone should use --prefix=/usr without --with-local-prefix=/usr/local
8949 root 1.387 %
8950 root 1.1 'You can solve any programming problem with another level of indirection,
8951     except the problem of too many levels of indirection.'
8952 root 1.387 %
8953 root 1.1 [http://www.itknowledge.com/tpj/issues/vol4_1/tpj0401-0015.html]
8954    
8955     Z-code interpreters have also been written in Java; unfortunately, when it
8956     comes to cross-platform compatibility, Java's user-interface classes are
8957     finicky and unstable--just ask anyone who's tried to reason with the AWT
8958     on different JVMs.
8959    
8960     [and later]
8961    
8962     Pilfer is a practical implementation of two of the cardinal rules of
8963     adventure gaming:
8964    
8965     1.Anything that is not nailed down is mine.
8966     2.Anything that I can pry loose is not nailed down.
8967 root 1.387 %
8968 root 1.1 [the ||-operator can be thought of as "or", && can be thought of as
8969     "and", but how would you call the ??-operator?]
8970    
8971     >>>>> "NK" == Nathan Kurz <nate@valleytel.net> writes:
8972    
8973     NK> ?? -> huh?
8974    
8975     That's a great name. The huh? operator.
8976    
8977     <chaim>
8978 root 1.387 %
8979 root 1.1 `One of the reasons we continue to use Fortran is that it's easier to fix
8980     code written without attention to such details in Fortran than in other
8981     languages. To put it another way, Fortran is the only language where
8982     people who barely get by with their numerical skills can "write useful
8983     numerical code." Many times those people are the only experts in their
8984     specialty available to put a needed procedure into practice.'
8985 root 1.387 %
8986 root 1.1 [Moderator der Sending "Teatime" auf "Radio Okerwelle", 1999-07-12]
8987 root 1.388 Ich muß schließlich hören was ich sage, damit ich weiß, was ich denke.
8988 root 1.387 %
8989 root 1.1 [Dr. Dobbs #8, 1999, describing how you can AVOID downloading or executing
8990     Java applets, scripts and ActiveX controls while _parsing_(!) an html
8991     page]
8992     ... you must utilize IOleControl::OnAmbientPropertyChange with the
8993     value DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Before you can do this, however, you
8994     must call IOleObject::SetClientSite so that IOleControl will work
8995     properly. This is the reason you derive from IOleClientSite, even
8996     though you don't extend its functionality in any way. After the call to
8997     OnAmbientPropertyChange, IE4 will call your Invoke method to check the
8998     value of DISPID_AMBIENT_DLCONTROL. Invoke simply sets the correct bits to
8999     disable the behaviour you don't want and returns NOERROR.
9000     [Still interested in knowing how you can disable the "file not found"
9001     dialog box that will pop up when you try to parse a non-accessible file?]
9002 root 1.387 %
9003 root 1.1 [Linus, whom I quote rarely ;-]
9004     Message passing as the fundamental operation of the OS is just an
9005     excercise in computer science masturbation. It may feel good, but you
9006     don't actually get anything DONE.
9007 root 1.387 %
9008 root 1.1 Advantages of Windows NT over Linux:
9009     * It's easier to explain the crash was not your fault.
9010     * You've to remember only one solution all to your problems: Reboot.
9011     * You can use your mouse to type an email-message.
9012 root 1.387 %
9013 root 1.1 > 1) On the PIII, there is the capability to get a system unique serial
9014     > number from the CPU. Does Linux read this data already? Is there plans to
9015     > read the serial number and then disable the capability (maybe so you could
9016     > get the serial number from the OS)?
9017    
9018     Current Linux disables it and doesn't save the value.
9019 root 1.387 %
9020 root 1.1 [CRYPTO-GRAM 1999-06-15]
9021     "Microsoft set the security state-of-the-art back 25 years with DOS, and
9022     they have continued that legacy to this day."
9023 root 1.387 %
9024 root 1.1 [From "The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature", by Thomas Scoville]
9025     "In a world increasingly dominated by image culture (TV, movies, .jpg
9026     files), UNIX remains rooted in the culture of the word."
9027 root 1.387 %
9028 root 1.1 > If it is clearly documented that will not happen.
9029    
9030     Yeah, sure. Unfortunately, if the "correct" treatment of this feature
9031     means to change a dozen source files (and rth's comments make me fear
9032     that that's the case), the chance that someone, somewhere forgets to say
9033     exactly why these changes were necessary (and on what other changes in
9034     other files they depend) is far larger than I want to consider. We've
9035     seen this before. Lucky we are that some long time gcc-hackers are
9036     still among us, who might remark: Oh yes, that's undefined by the C
9037     Standard, but it happens to be an extension gcc supports ... Seen that,
9038     got the T-shirt.
9039 root 1.387 %
9040 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
9041     From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
9042     Date: Fri, 4 Jun 99 10:00:16 PDT
9043     To: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
9044     Cc: craig@jcb-sc.com, jbuck@Synopsys.COM, mark@codesourcery.com,
9045     davem@redhat.com, chip@perlsupport.com, egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
9046     X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
9047    
9048     Linus writes, to Craig:
9049    
9050     > I haven't maintained a compiler long-term. I _have_ maintained a larger,
9051     > and arguably mode complex system with many more degrees of freedom and
9052     > thus choices than gcc.
9053    
9054     No, gcc is substantially larger than the Linux kernel (on the order of 10x
9055     larger, as anyone can easily verify). gcc does not need to deal with race
9056     conditions, so in that sense it is simpler, but in other respects it is
9057     far more complex than the kernel.
9058    
9059     [NOTE for the reader: this is not really true, as the device drivers
9060     bomb the comparison away, but the complexity argument still holds]
9061    
9062     [ personal insults deleted, perhaps the author is in need of a vacation ]
9063 root 1.387 %
9064 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
9065     From: craig@jcb-sc.com
9066     To: torvalds@transmeta.com
9067    
9068     >I want the _user_ to be able to give input.
9069     [...]
9070     >I happen to think that the "explicit cast invalidates the alias
9071     >information" rule is the simplest and best one, and gives the user the
9072     >best control without adding things like new attributes or other ways to
9073     >let the user be in control.
9074    
9075     In other words, you believe you are a better language designer than
9076     the ISO C people as well as the gcc maintainers, despite the fact
9077     that you know, what, *nothing* about language design, and *nothing*
9078     about compiler design and, especially, long-term maintenance of
9079     compilers?
9080 root 1.387 %
9081 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
9082     From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
9083    
9084     Linus writes:
9085     > Oh, you don't expect me to complain about bad code generation when I know
9086     > gcc could do better?
9087    
9088     Oh, don't worry, we expect you to complain, and in a rude and insulting
9089     matter at that. We're used to it. It seems that you were a nicer guy
9090     before you had so many worshippers.
9091 root 1.387 %
9092 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing?
9093     From: Branko Cibej <branko.cibej@hermes.si>
9094     Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:07:09 +0200
9095     To: egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
9096     X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I)
9097    
9098     Linus Torvalds wrote:
9099    
9100     > I think it's a damn shame that instead of technical arguments _everything_
9101     > revolves around people reading the standard as if it was the bible, and
9102     > trying to make people feel guilty for not really caring. It's not a sin to
9103     > just want to get good code without having to do magic contortions, guys.
9104    
9105     Why, Linus, it's trivial to do! Use MSVC instead of egcs, then you can do
9106    
9107     #pragma optimize("a", on/off)
9108    
9109     around every single statement, if you like. It even supports anonymous unions
9110     _and_ structs, and is only slightly influenced by the ISO C standard.
9111    
9112     They'll even sell you a version that can generate code for the alpha!
9113    
9114     >:->
9115    
9116     Brane
9117    
9118    
9119     P.S.: Just for the record: I, a "real user" and (imnsho) a "clever programmer"
9120     who "know what I'm doing", at least most of the time, and who do not "read the
9121     standard as if it were a bible", vote for having a standard-conforming
9122     compiler that's not bloated by a ton of marginally useful (or even useless)
9123     features. If I want featuritis, I know where I can get it.
9124    
9125    
9126     P.P.S: They can't even spell "optimise" ...
9127 root 1.387 %
9128 root 1.1 You can have it Soon, Cheap, and Working; choose *two*
9129 root 1.387 %
9130 root 1.1 "Scientific" studies have found that a 2.2.x Linux router with
9131     fast-switching enabled, using Tulip 100baseT cards, can melt a
9132     high-end Cisco's 100baseT interfaces.
9133 root 1.387 %
9134 root 1.1 1) Thread switching is faster than process switching by a little bit on Linux
9135     2) Process switching on linux is faster than thread switching on NT
9136     3) Almost anything is faster than process switching on NT
9137 root 1.387 %
9138 root 1.1 [gimp-developers, on the use of keyboard modifiers for drawing tools]
9139    
9140     > Simple. Powerful. Fast. Choose at most two.
9141    
9142     Perhaps this should be an option in the preferences dialog? :)
9143 root 1.387 %
9144 root 1.1 [perl is cryptic??]
9145     Subject: @{$${->{{{{~{}~{{{NO CARRIER
9146     From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@iki.fi>
9147     Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:55:37 +0300 (EET DST)
9148    
9149     We have still a long way to go-- from the zsh-workers mailing list:
9150    
9151     : Just thought of a trivial way to take a lot of grief out of parameter
9152     : substitution. This patch makes the following valid:
9153     :
9154     : ${${${${(f)"$(typeset)"}:#*local *\=*}%%\=*}##* }
9155     :
9156     : replacing the equivalent but grotesquer
9157     :
9158     : "${(@)${(@)${(@)${(@f)$(typeset)}:#*local *\=*}%%\=*}##* }"
9159 root 1.387 %
9160 root 1.1 Long noun chains don't automatically imply security. - Bruce Schneier
9161 root 1.387 %
9162 root 1.1 > |> Spoken as a true C programmer. However you are wrong. Case-preserving, but
9163     > |> insensitive, is the CORRECT way for file systems. Capitalization should not
9164     > |> matter for interpretation of a file name just as it doesn't matter for
9165     > |> interpreting words in any human language.
9166     >
9167     > This is wrong. In German, there is a big difference between "paar" und
9168     > "Paar" (the first meaning "a few", the second "pair").
9169    
9170     The classic example:
9171    
9172     "Ich habe liebe Genossen in Moskau" - I've got dead comreds in Moscow.
9173     "Ich habe Liebe genossen in Moskau" - I enjoyed love in Moscow.
9174 root 1.387 %
9175 root 1.1 [do we need oo-style IO::File class in perl?]
9176     >_You_ aren't gonna code "use IO::File".
9177    
9178     And there's no reason for anyone else to, either, especially
9179     once Nick finishes the Larry-blessed autovivification of
9180     lvaluabled undefs in open(), socket(), etc.
9181    
9182     What's next, a String class for Perl?
9183    
9184     --tom
9185 root 1.387 %
9186 root 1.1 [some example of the kind of mail I sometimes receive:]
9187     i was just trying to help u out not hurt you in anyway ok i have the fbi
9188     working on something for me
9189     u havent done anything to me ok and the sherriffs department came by to talk
9190     to me nutting concerning y ok
9191     piece
9192     russ
9193 root 1.387 %
9194 root 1.1 [From "Basic Information about Unix", common commands:]
9195    
9196     pico (text editor for beginners)
9197     vi (text editor for advanced users)
9198     emacs (text editor for advanced users)
9199     ed (text editor for beginners)
9200 root 1.387 %
9201 root 1.1 There is no reason in principle that a Perl script shouldn't start with
9202    
9203     use Python;
9204    
9205     and appear to work exactly like Python from there to the end of the file.
9206     Except maybe faster. :-)
9207    
9208     Larry
9209 root 1.387 %
9210 root 1.1 > Perl6 gives us an opportunity to re-examine every feature at a microscopic level.
9211    
9212     just what I'm afraid of... I thought this was to be Perl6, not Perl
9213     2010.
9214    
9215     (Perl 2010: The Spaced Oddity?)
9216 root 1.387 %
9217 root 1.1 The X.25 specification is not a particularly easy document to
9218     read. Contrary to expectations, it does not make great use of diagrams
9219     and tables that help to explain the workings of the protocols that
9220     it contains. Instead the document makes use of many ambiguous English
9221     descriptions of the actions that should take place, allied with a complete
9222     lack of fluency in its prose descriptions, make for a very confusing
9223     document. It is a wonder that any correct X.25 implementations have ever
9224     been created.
9225 root 1.387 %
9226 root 1.1 > Joe: (walking into McDonalds) Hi, I'd like a Big Mac.
9227     >
9228     > Cashier: Okay, here's your Big Mac and here's your Coke. That'll be
9229     > $3.99.
9230     >
9231     > Joe: Uh, I don't want a Coke.
9232     >
9233     > Cashier: Sorry, they're bundled.
9234     >
9235     > Joe: What? I'm not paying for a Coke!
9236     >
9237     > Cashier: You don't; the Coke is free.
9238     >
9239     > Joe: But wasn't a Big Mac $2.49 last week?
9240     >
9241     > Cashier: Sure, but this latest Big Mac is far more innovative. It's
9242     > got integrated Coke!
9243     >
9244     > Joe: I already bought a Snapple across the street... I'm not going
9245     > to drink the Coke.
9246     >
9247     > Cashier: Then you can't have the burger.
9248     >
9249     > Joe: Okay, fine, I will pay the $3.99 and throw the Coke away.
9250     >
9251     > Cashier: Oh, you can't do that. They're seamlessly integrated. Totally
9252     > inseparable.
9253     >
9254     > Joe: How can that be? They're two totally separate things!
9255     >
9256     > Cashier: No, watch. (takes Big Mac, dunks it in a tank of Coke) See?
9257     >
9258     > Joe: Why did you just do that?!
9259     >
9260     > Cashier: It's a benefit to the consumer. Otherwise you'd end up with
9261     > two different, inconsistent tastes. This way you're assured of a
9262     > continuous taste across all your foods.
9263 root 1.387 %
9264 root 1.1 Threads are like salt. I like salt, you like salt, we all
9265     like salt, but we eat more pasta than salt.
9266 root 1.40 Rob Pike
9267 root 1.387 %
9268 root 1.1 From: Nathan Torkington <gnat@frii.com>
9269    
9270     Don't be bitten by Perl, get crushed by Python.
9271     Python: Perl for the punctuation-phobic.
9272     It takes 4 days for a python to digest a hamster, but only 2 days
9273     for you to digest this book.
9274     Python: it's really better but nobody uses it.
9275     Python: just for the whitespace of it.
9276     Join The Trickle
9277     Python: more popular than Dylan!
9278     Python: not written by crackheads in a gutter!
9279     Are you uptight? Try our new Python Hangups series.
9280 root 1.387 %
9281 root 1.1 Well Microsoft announced this new language called COOL which I can
9282     honestly say that I have seen NO CRAPPY CODE written in. OTOH it appears
9283     that to achieve this miraculous status by the simple technique of being
9284     complete and utter vapourware.
9285    
9286     Microsoft, taking the Business out of COBOL.
9287 root 1.387 %
9288 root 1.1 [From "Programming Perl"]
9289    
9290     We will encourage you to develop the three great virtues of a
9291     programmer: laziness, impatience and hubris
9292 root 1.387 %
9293 root 1.1 [Alexander Stepanov, creator of the STL]:
9294    
9295     Yes. STL is not object oriented. I think that object orientedness is
9296     almost as much of a hoax as Artificial Intelligence. I have yet to
9297     see an interesting piece of code that comes from these OO people. In
9298     a sense, I am unfair to AI: I learned a lot of stuff from the MIT AI
9299     Lab crowd, they have done some really fundamental work: Bill Gosper's
9300     Hakmem is one of the best things for a programmer to read. AI might
9301     not have had a serious foundation, but it produced Gosper and Stallman
9302     (Emacs), Moses (Macsyma) and Sussman (Scheme, together with Guy Steele). I
9303     find OOP technically unsound. It attempts to decompose the world in
9304     terms of interfaces that vary on a single type. To deal with the real
9305     problems you need multisorted algebras - families of interfaces that
9306     span multiple types. I find OOP philosophically unsound. It claims that
9307     everything is an object. Even if it is true it is not very interesting -
9308     saying that everything is an object is saying nothing at all. I find OOP
9309     methodologically wrong. It starts with classes. It is as if mathematicians
9310     would start with axioms. You do not start with axioms - you start with
9311     proofs. Only when you have found a bunch of related proofs, can you
9312     come up with axioms. You end with axioms. The same thing is true in
9313     programming: you have to start with interesting algorithms. Only when you
9314     understand them well, can you come up with an interface that will let them
9315     work.
9316     [...]
9317     You can't write a generic max() in Java that takes two arguments of some
9318     type and has a return value of that same type. Inheritance and interfaces
9319     don't help. And if they cannot implement max or swap or linear search,
9320     what chances do they have to implement really complex stuff? These are my
9321     litmus tests: if a language allows me to implement max and swap and linear
9322     search generically - then it has some potential.
9323     [...] Java is clearly an example of a money oriented programming (MOP).
9324     It might be successful - after all, MS DOS was - and it might be a
9325     profitable thing for all your readers to learn Java, but it has no
9326     intellectual value whatsoever.
9327    
9328     [Later, on OMG protocols like CORBA]
9329     I am old enough to remember all the networking standards that were coming
9330     out in the seventies. Who remembers them now?
9331 root 1.387 %
9332 root 1.1 [Stiftung Warentest "test", WDR 19990419:]
9333 root 1.388 "Schlechtes muß nicht billig sein..."
9334 root 1.387 %
9335 root 1.1 [/bin/false on solaris]
9336     #!/usr/bin/sh
9337     # Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
9338     # All Rights Reserved
9339    
9340     # THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
9341     # The copyright notice above does not evidence any
9342     # actual or intended publication of such source code.
9343    
9344     #ident "@(#)false.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.3 */
9345     [obvious invocation of exit snipped to avoid lawsuit. Yup, *1* line.]
9346 root 1.387 %
9347 root 1.1 <Aspirin> but ee uses imlib, and imlib is documented to take 4.7 days to start up on a 486 by Alan Cox.
9348 root 1.387 %
9349 root 1.1 When a tar built for SunOS runs under Solaris, it's incapable of opening
9350     or creating files with "lib/locale" in the path. It replaces that part of
9351     the path with "lib/oldlocale".
9352 root 1.387 %
9353 root 1.1 [Bruce Schneier in CRYPTO-GRAM, 19990315]
9354    
9355     "Microsoft prefers to treat security holes as a public relations problem,
9356     rather than fixing the actual problem."
9357    
9358     [further down: the official answer from Microsoft about a problem where
9359     just viewing a website would invisibly run unrestricted code on your
9360     machine]
9361    
9362     "Microsoft appreciates your input regarding this issue, however in lieu
9363     of modern technology being what it is, we all need to be personally
9364     responsible for knowing what we are downloading off the internet."
9365    
9366     [see http://www.panix.com/~dfoster/sec/chrono.html]
9367 root 1.387 %
9368 root 1.1 [Steve Funston wrote to me, after I unsubscribed him from gimp-perl for
9369     spamming:]
9370    
9371     >fuck you ass hole duh you are just a big fucker
9372     >>
9373     >>An error was generated by your request to our servers:
9374     >>------------------------------------------------------
9375     >>
9376     >>Your Email: bfunston@mich.com
9377     >>
9378     >>ERROR: You are not a member of this list.
9379    
9380     [and later, misquoting my name:]
9381     >mark is not only a big fat liar but he is an ass hole.
9382 root 1.387 %
9383 root 1.1 [How much of the microsoft shares does Bill Gates hold?]
9384     He has 19.8%. Paul Allen has 5.5%. Steve Ballmer has 4.7%.
9385 root 1.387 %
9386 root 1.1 > And what's wrong with being named Peter?
9387     If linus was peter, Linux would be called penix? (just guessing) ;)
9388 root 1.387 %
9389 root 1.1 According to Microsoft KnowledgeBase article Q216641, Microsoft Windows
9390     95/98 are limited to an uptime of *exactly* 49.7 days.
9391    
9392     --found by Vincent Janelle (Random)
9393 root 1.387 %
9394 root 1.1 > Leave that to RMS.
9395    
9396     If you had just sat through the horrific panel with Larry,
9397     RMS, Richard, and Linus, you would want to leave a whole lot
9398     else to RMS -- like a couple of megatons of the manure that
9399     he's full of.
9400    
9401     Support BSD/Linux.
9402    
9403     --tom
9404 root 1.387 %
9405 root 1.1 "The FSF is a cult -- don't support them." --Rob Pike
9406 root 1.387 %
9407 root 1.1 We are Linux. Resistance is an indication that you missed the point.
9408 root 1.387 %
9409 root 1.1 > Perhaps the cracker himself (itself? ;) isn't bright enough to delete shell
9410     > history, but his shrink-wrapped cracking tools might be a lot brighter...
9411    
9412     Some of them are. A surprising number aren't. A personal favorite of
9413     mine was the log from a cracker who couldn't figure out how to untar
9414     and install the trojan package he'd ftped onto the machine. he tried a
9415     few times, and then eventually gave up and logged out.
9416 root 1.387 %
9417 root 1.1 [on channel #gimp]
9418    
9419     [msg(Xachbot)] insult me
9420     [XachBot(xachbot@home.xach.com)] schmorp: David Miller would never approve of that.
9421 root 1.387 %
9422 root 1.1 [the creation]
9423     http://www.toodarkpark.org/caffeine-cgi-bin/textfile/net-hx.txt
9424 root 1.387 %
9425 root 1.1 THE LESSER-KNOWN PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES #12: LITHP
9426    
9427     This otherwise unremarkable language is distinguished by the absence of
9428     an "S" in its character set; users must substitute "TH". LITHP is said
9429     to be useful in protheththing lithtth.
9430 root 1.387 %
9431 root 1.1 Ich zog hier nur einen Pseudoschluss aus dieser sache, den ich nicht
9432     selbst schliesse.
9433     Norbert Harry Marzahn, selbsternannter "Judaaer"
9434     am 13.12.98 in de.alt.ufo
9435 root 1.387 %
9436 root 1.1 According to Gurusamy Sarathy:
9437     > "Resistance is futile, you will be modularized."
9438    
9439     No:
9440    
9441     use Borg;
9442     make_threat(-type => 'standard', -doom => 'modularized');
9443    
9444     --
9445     Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
9446 root 1.387 %
9447 root 1.1 "And over here, ladies and gentlemen, may I draw your attention to
9448     the 'posicks box', a mechanism within one of the late 20th century
9449     sub-I hardware gestalt integration agents (then called 'operating
9450     systems', this particular one being referred to as 'windows' by
9451     its commercial-mimetic sustainer), designed so as to provide the
9452     appearance and functionality required to comply with one of the few
9453     agreed-upon integration schemas (sub-I, of course) available at the
9454     time. Unsurprising given the non-integration imperitives used by the
9455     agent's sustainter, this mechanism was demonstrated to be an ingenious
9456     non-integration ploy that, while supporting the integration schema,
9457     failed to support the local interconnect schemas that this agent
9458     specialized in. This produced a classic focus rift in the knowledge
9459     pool, benefiting the sustainer in the short run due to the focus
9460     concentration facilities available to commericial-class mimetic
9461     sustainers. Practically, this wasn't a significant loss, in the long
9462     run, as neither the 'windows' or 'posicks' schemas were relevant to
9463     modern quasi-I agents. These two do live on, however, in a few niches.
9464     'posicks' is used as the integration schema between most nano-scale
9465     logic units (a fact that only a few meta-experts still need to be
9466     aware of), and 'windows' survives, for religious-mimetic reasons, as
9467     the human-communication agent in a few stereotypical toasters and soap
9468     dispensers."
9469    
9470     [Kenneth Albanowski]
9471 root 1.387 %
9472 root 1.1 Perl ist ein Schmerzmittel.
9473     Wenn Du bei der Speicherverwaltung oder der Stringverarbeitung
9474     unter C Schmerzen hast, nimm Perl.
9475     -- Kristian Koehntopp
9476 root 1.387 %
9477 root 1.1 > Why Windows NT Server 4.0 continues to exist in the enterprise would be a
9478     > topic appropriate for an investigative report in the field of psychology or
9479     > marketing, not an article on information technology -- John Kirch
9480 root 1.387 %
9481 root 1.388 [bei einer mündlichen Nachprüfung in BWL, Uni Hamburg]
9482 root 1.1
9483     Prof: "Was ist Agio?"
9484 root 1.388 Student: "Weiß ich nicht."
9485 root 1.1 Prof: "OK, durchgefallen!
9486 root 1.388 Student: "Ich habe aber Anspruch auf drei Fragen in der mündlichen Prüfung!"
9487 root 1.1 Prof: "Klar, was ist Disagio?"
9488     Student: "..."
9489     Prof: "...und was ist der Unterschied zwischen Agio und Disagio?"
9490     Student: "..."
9491     Prof: "...durchgefallen!"
9492 root 1.387 %
9493 root 1.1 Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@pobox.com> writes:
9494    
9495     > Just morbid curiosity,
9496     >
9497     > Are there _any_ unix boxes that _can't_ build Perl?
9498    
9499     Yes. Broken ones.
9500    
9501     dgris
9502 root 1.387 %
9503 root 1.1 "The kerastion is a musical instrument which cannot be heard."
9504     -- A Borges story in ten words.
9505 root 1.387 %
9506 root 1.1 "C combines the power of assembly language
9507     with the flexibility of assembly language."
9508 root 1.387 %
9509 root 1.1 ...
9510    
9511     <AOL>
9512    
9513     Me too!
9514    
9515     </AOL>
9516    
9517     Tig
9518 root 1.387 %
9519 root 1.1 ping -p 2b2b2b415448300d <hostname>
9520 root 1.387 %
9521 root 1.1 unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck;more;yes;umount;sleep
9522 root 1.387 %
9523 root 1.1 From: Dick Balaska <dick@buckosoft.com>
9524    
9525     I sit behind an NT dual P2/400 256MB for too many hours each day. It is
9526     "slow". One of my (fun) tasks is CD mastering. When i'm loading a 500MB
9527     wav file into the editor, the machine goes useless for two minutes while
9528     loading the wave file. Basically its just reading the file and writing it
9529     to swap. The CPU is at 5%. No Alt-Tab between apps during that time. No
9530     chance of putting the mouse over a button (too many dropped ticks). The
9531     NT kernel is just sitting waiting for I/O completions.
9532    
9533     Linux would be embarrassed to be that bad.
9534    
9535     I expected M$ to never fix this because its not "broken". However, i
9536     expect billg to start reading the above mentioned literal benchmarks and
9537     get really really pissed.
9538    
9539     Especially since i believe 1999 and 2000 to see Linux *really* start
9540     to cut into M$'s server market share.
9541 root 1.387 %
9542 root 1.1 > Hello I'm wondering if there's a lower traffic mailing list that exists
9543     > that's strictly important kernel announcements and not general chat. I
9544     > need to stay informed but I can't handle 250 messages in a 24 hour
9545     > period.
9546     >
9547     > Sorry for the insignificant post..
9548     > Nic
9549     >
9550    
9551     Thank you for contributing to the problem.
9552    
9553     -hpa
9554 root 1.387 %
9555 root 1.1 grep... grep... grep... (frog with unix stuck in his throat)
9556 root 1.387 %
9557 root 1.1 "If users are made to understand that the system administrator's job is to
9558     make computers run, and not to make them happy, they can, in fact, be made
9559     happy most of the time. If users are allowed to believe that the system
9560     administrator's job is to make them happy, they can, in fact, never be made
9561     happy."
9562     - - -Paul Evans (as quoted by Barb Dijker in "Managing Support Staff", LISA '97)
9563 root 1.387 %
9564 root 1.1 From: "Daniel P. Stasinski" <dannys@KAREMOR.COM>
9565     Subject: Microsoft Hotmail
9566     To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG
9567    
9568     I contacted Microsoft/Hotmail asking them to close the account
9569     of that was listed in the backdoored tcp wrapper source code.
9570     I also forwarded the offending code.
9571    
9572     The word back from them is that they will not close it. Theft
9573     of passwords and hacking does not violate thier terms of
9574     service.
9575    
9576     Daniel
9577 root 1.387 %
9578 root 1.1 Any UNIX-killer must also have:
9579     ...
9580     * cool name like Linux (serious, these fail: GNU Hurd FreeBSD 386BSD)
9581 root 1.387 %
9582 root 1.1 "Not all things worth doing are worth doing well."
9583     It's a phrase I use a lot. :-)
9584     [RJL]
9585 root 1.387 %
9586 root 1.1 As John Whittaker says: ``It's UNIX. That doesn't necessarily mean it's
9587     right.''
9588 root 1.387 %
9589 root 1.1 [Richard Stallman on the new _Pragma operator in C9X:]
9590    
9591     Amazing--they actually listened.
9592 root 1.387 %
9593 root 1.1 That "UNIX" term is very negative. People often associate it with
9594     SCO OpenServer, Wyse terminals, and 60 people on a 386. The UNIX
9595     that people know is just awful. It looks something like this:
9596    
9597     # less foo
9598     sh: command not found
9599     # more foo
9600     sh: command not found
9601     # emacs foo
9602     sh: command not found
9603     # ed foo
9604     0
9605     help
9606     ?
9607     quit
9608     ?
9609     exit
9610     ?
9611     DIE!!!!!!!!!!
9612     ?
9613    
9614     [Albert D. Cahalan]
9615 root 1.387 %
9616 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Stop blib warning in future releases?
9617     From: andreas.koenig@anima.de (Andreas J. Koenig)
9618     Date: 05 Jan 1999 03:15:37 +0100
9619    
9620     tim> Sure. Strictly speaking
9621    
9622     tim> use blib ':quiet';
9623    
9624     tim> would be most correct in style.
9625    
9626     Only German native speakers are allowed to treat adverbs adjectively.
9627     For the rest I'd recommend [...]
9628 root 1.387 %
9629 root 1.1 [A new U.S. Law implementing a WIPO treaty]
9630     No person shall circumvent a technological protection measure that
9631     effectively controls access to a work protected under this title
9632     [Or, in other words, applied cryptanalysis will be illegal.
9633     too bad --- ]
9634 root 1.387 %
9635 root 1.1 Microsoft - Is it going to work today?
9636 root 1.387 %
9637 root 1.1 Subject: Re: [gimp-devel] GIF plugin legal issues
9638    
9639     > Actually, my understanding is that Unisys doesn't currently enforce the
9640     > licensing cost on free software, but maybe I am mistaken.
9641    
9642     The general wording, spoken by an unnamed GIMP developer, is, if you'll
9643     pardon the language, "Unisys can go fuck itself."
9644 root 1.387 %
9645 root 1.1 [once on linux-kernel:]
9646     > >who are you why on yahoo when iprint sf16fmi i fond you i need drv
9647     > Does anyone have the secret decoder ring to make sense of this?
9648     he's confused about us showing up in a search match on yahoo, but needs
9649     driver(s) for his sf16fmi thingy.
9650 root 1.387 %
9651 root 1.1 > Did you try to compile kdeadmin from the CVS tree ?
9652    
9653     No I ran the KDE binaries. Im not interested in broken programs that
9654     include wrong #include files in their source.
9655 root 1.387 %
9656 root 1.1 [unix-faq]
9657    
9658     Someday, you are going to accidentally type something like
9659     "rm * .foo", and find you just deleted "*" instead of "*.foo".
9660     Consider it a rite of passage.
9661 root 1.387 %
9662 root 1.1 "There's one word that strikes fear into nuclear scientists..."
9663     "Oops."
9664     -- MST3K
9665 root 1.387 %
9666 root 1.1 Seems like 80-bit spills would be closer to IEEE, if not close enough to
9667     claim full support. Off-hand I'd say people would be happier with
9668     those numeric properties than with the current situation.
9669    
9670     I'll think about the esoterica (probably break down and ask people here).
9671     It would certainly make gcc the most reliable x86 floating-point compiler
9672     I know. Sun's does something similar to -ffloat-store by default (gee,
9673     look at how fast that ultra is), and Microsoft's runs off the end of the
9674     stack at run-time . I don't know what Intel's does, so I'm not considering
9675     it. ;)
9676 root 1.387 %
9677 root 1.1 >I was using the localtime function to change time_t into it's various
9678     >human-readable parts. I noticed that $year gets returned as 98 and
9679     >not 1998. I tested a few different unices and got the same result.
9680     >This is expected behavior based on the examples I've seen and my own
9681     >testing. My question is how is this y2k compliant?
9682    
9683     What part of your C library's documentation on localtime(3), the perlfunc
9684     documentation on the Perl localtime function, the perlfaq4 entry on `Does
9685     Perl have a year 2000 problem?', and the Y2K document on www.perl.com
9686     did you find to be unclear on the answer to this question?
9687    
9688     --tom
9689 root 1.387 %
9690 root 1.1 > * Have you ever wondered how life began ?
9691    
9692     In a laboratory somewhere at Bell Labs.
9693    
9694     >Why does it end ?
9695    
9696     Ask the X3J11 committee.
9697    
9698     > * Can you tell WHY there is life ? What is the purpose of it ?
9699     > * Can YOU do anything to make your life worth living ? WHAT ?
9700    
9701     To promote the the DEATH OF ANSI C! K+R FOREVER! DOWN WITH PORTABILITY!
9702 root 1.387 %
9703 root 1.1 "Unix *is* Perl's IDE!"
9704     -- Tom Christiansen
9705 root 1.387 %
9706 root 1.1 [Sputnik]
9707    
9708     Do you honestly think the Americans would mention a Soviet success? :-)
9709     A number of years back I saw an exhibition in the US on the development of
9710     supersonic passenger aircraft. They forgot to mention Concorde. It
9711     wouldn't surprise me in the least if most people at NASA had never heard
9712     of Sputnik.
9713 root 1.387 %
9714 root 1.1 NTFS by default adds unnecessary serialization to an extent that
9715     even older file systems such as FFS do not, and its performance
9716     characteristics reflect that. In fairness, it should be said that it is
9717     the superior approach for most removable media without software control
9718     of ejection (e.g. IBM PC floppies).
9719 root 1.387 %
9720 root 1.1 Never attribute to malice what could as well be explained by stupidity.
9721     - Hanlons razor -
9722 root 1.387 %
9723 root 1.1 Shallit's Razor: Never attribute to conspiracy what may be adequately
9724     explained by stupidity or incompetence.
9725 root 1.387 %
9726 root 1.1 According to Chris Nandor:
9727     > I thought about creating a web interface to input, edit, delete entries,
9728     > but that would have taken me longer, been more complex and less secure, and
9729     > offered no significant advantages.
9730    
9731     That one's in the quotes file. Thanks.
9732 root 1.387 %
9733 root 1.1 My friend who had a Compaq called one day when his built-in cdrom drive
9734     stopped responding. Their answer "its a virus. Reinstal Windows". So he did
9735     (?) and it still didn't work. He called them and they said "its a virus,
9736     reinstall." "But I just installed. If there is a virus, it came from YOUR
9737     quick restore disk." "No, no virus there, but you DO have a virus. My paper
9738     in front of me says so."
9739    
9740     He took it back and bought a Gateway.
9741 root 1.387 %
9742 root 1.1 9. Deinde, ne in posterum a XII kalendas aprilis aequinoctium recedat,
9743     statuimus bissextum quarto quoque anno (uti mos est) continuari debere,
9744     praeterquam in centesimis annis; qui, quamvis bissextiles antea semper
9745     fuerint, qualem etiam esse volumus annum MDC, post eum tamen qui
9746     deinceps consequentur centesimi non omnes bissextiles sint, sed in
9747     quadringentis quibusque annis primi quique tres centesimi sine bissexto
9748     transigantur, quartus vero quisque centesimus bissextilis sit, ita ut
9749     annus MDCC, MDCCC, MDCCCC bissextiles non sint. Anno vero MM, more
9750     consueto dies bissextus intercaletur, februario dies XXIX continente,
9751     idemque ordo intermittendi intercalandique bissextum diem in
9752     quadringentis quibusque annis perpetuo conservetur.
9753 root 1.387 %
9754 root 1.1 You obviously have not dealt with Microsoft Winnt 4.0
9755     and all the Service Pack then. While one Service Pack
9756     did somewhat correct the Y2K problem was not aware that
9757     2000 was in fact a leap year. There was no way to set
9758     the date to Feb 29, 2000.
9759 root 1.387 %
9760 root 1.1 "Ernst Lehmann, die Organisationsredundanz beim Cluster-Treffen"
9761 root 1.387 %
9762 root 1.388 HP Computer NEWS 3/98 about HP 2000/CN printer (page 24): "Darüber
9763 root 1.1 hinaus ... hat der HP 2000C/CN durch den Einsatz von Intel MMX-
9764     Technologie Zugriff auf deren Farbtabellen und kann so Farbbilder
9765     schneller verarbeiten" (A mistake made when translating. It's hard to
9766     get the wrong meaning if translated back to English, sorry.)
9767 root 1.387 %
9768 root 1.1 From: Robert Lipe
9769     > > I program computers with no screens and no keyboards for a living.
9770     > > Switches and front-panels are a LUXURY! :-)
9771     >
9772     > But I guess you are not _programming_ these computers without a keyboard
9773     > and/or screen.
9774    
9775     Are you familiar with the Vulcan Mind Meld?
9776 root 1.387 %
9777 root 1.1 Subject: Re: [fwd from comp.lang.python] Re: Python 2 ideas [Re: access
9778     From: Tuomas Lukka <lukka@fas.harvard.edu>
9779    
9780     On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
9781     > use pedantic;
9782     > use strict 'code';
9783     >
9784     > or whatever is the syntax to switch Perl into 'dull'/'pythonish' mode.
9785    
9786     use syntax 'python';
9787    
9788     Let's just embrace&extend'em ;) ;)
9789    
9790 root 1.387 %
9791 root 1.1 Thus it was written in the epistle of Larry Wall,
9792     >
9793     > Having discussed all this thoroughly at the Hacker's Conference this
9794     > past weekend, I've come to the conclusion that Y2K will be traumatic
9795     > primarily because people *think* it will be traumatic. A panic is a
9796     > panic whether or not it's justified. People get trampled in panics.
9797     >
9798     > It should be illegal to yell "Y2K" in a crowded economy. :-)
9799 root 1.387 %
9800 root 1.1 [rfc1925]
9801     Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick any two (you can't have all three).
9802 root 1.387 %
9803 root 1.1 [Alan Cox, why not port hurd to sgi, instead of linux]
9804     > A possible minus is the message-passing between the servers which might
9805     > be time-consuming.
9806    
9807     "Yesterdays technology, next week" to quote an OSI saying
9808 root 1.387 %
9809 root 1.1 UNIX versions of ctags handle the C language, and often Pascal and Fortran
9810     77. Sometimes, they even handle assembly language. Almost universally,
9811     however, they do not handle C++...
9812     [from "learning the vi editor"]
9813 root 1.387 %
9814 root 1.1 > correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a thread about this a few
9815     > months back that resolved the ping -f localhost as a ping bug.
9816    
9817     Indeed, as Alan Cox said:
9818    
9819     So get a non-buggy ping(8) client.
9820    
9821     and as Ecclesiastes said:
9822    
9823     Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been
9824     already of old time, which was before us.
9825     There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any
9826     remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
9827    
9828     Regards,
9829     Tigran.
9830 root 1.387 %
9831 root 1.1 SNMP stands for Security Not My Problem
9832 root 1.387 %
9833 root 1.1 [slightly broken, though...]
9834     /* "Hello World" in B for 64-bit hardware! */
9835     hw [0] "Hello World.*n";
9836     main(){
9837     extrn hw;
9838     putchar(0[hw]);
9839     hw=+1;
9840     putchar(0[hw]);
9841     }
9842 root 1.387 %
9843 root 1.1 > So what comes first the chicken or the egg? :)
9844    
9845     The egg. Always. By definition.
9846 root 1.387 %
9847 root 1.1 > > PPS: Robert, I just made my first y2k fix to that script ;()
9848     >
9849     > Better check your scsi cables.
9850 root 1.387 %
9851 root 1.1 Arroganz durch Wissen
9852     [Dirk Jagdmann]
9853 root 1.387 %
9854 root 1.1 [Re: Pegasus - Gut oder Boese?]
9855     > Weil er sie dabei ja unterstuetzt. Da er aber (abgesehen von den ersten
9856     > ein- oder zweimal) nur auf Anrufen von Rosa-Girl erscheint, koennte man es
9857     > auch anders herum sagen. wenn CU Pfeift, kommt er angaloppiert 8))
9858    
9859 root 1.388 was aber leider bedeutet, daß usa die Rennsemmel ständig mit
9860 root 1.1 sich rumschleppen mu?. ^_-
9861     Nur weil die Kleine die Bimmel hat!
9862    
9863 root 1.388 Und wer weiß, was dieses pädophile Pferd eigentlich noch so
9864 root 1.1 bezwecken will... ^_-
9865 root 1.387 %
9866 root 1.1 >James :\
9867     >
9868     >I apologize for adding a message to this possibly trivial thread.
9869    
9870     I like your sig. I hope you use it for everything you post.
9871 root 1.387 %
9872 root 1.1 From: Mason <mason@schwanda.resnet.tamu.edu>
9873     Subject: night of the undead ip stack
9874     Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:03:19 -0600 (CST)
9875 root 1.387 %
9876 root 1.1 > The person who decides to invent UNICODE support for Linux
9877     > is just asking for a black eye.
9878    
9879     But Unicode for NT is such fun!
9880    
9881     For example, the checked DbgPrint() bluescreens above DISPATCH_LEVEL
9882     if you try to print a Unicode string--the Unicode->ASCII
9883     translation tables are marked as pageable.
9884    
9885     Since as far as I know, printk() does not have any format specifiers
9886     that cause obscure kernel panics, Linux is clearly behind in this
9887     area.
9888 root 1.387 %
9889 root 1.1 Linux: a no problem operating system for no problem people.
9890     [Lukas Grunwald]
9891 root 1.387 %
9892 root 1.1 http://dd.sh/perlfs/:
9893    
9894     THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL (PRE-ALPHA) VERSION OF THE PERL FILESYSTEM.
9895     EVEN WHEN IT LOADS WITHOUT CAUSING A KERNEL PANIC, IT WILL LOCK UP
9896     YOUR MACHINE, DESTROY ALL YOUR DATA, KIDNAP YOUR FAMILY AND
9897     (DEPENDING ON SAID FAMILY'S CONFIGURATION) SHOOT YOUR CAT, DOG, AND/OR
9898     FIRST-BORN CHILD.
9899 root 1.387 %
9900 root 1.1 [a comment on http://dd.sh/perlfs/]
9901     Forget GNU/Linux. /PerL/inux will conquer all.
9902    
9903     kill 0,1 if -x '/PerL/inux'; # request kernel mode
9904 root 1.387 %
9905 root 1.1 [Tim Hollebeek on real arithmetic]
9906     On a machine with a sane floating point model, the results make sense.
9907     For example, my SGI workstation prints:
9908    
9909     0.00000000000000011102 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000020000 1.00000000000000040000
9910    
9911     However, a machine with the Intel FPU from hell gives:
9912    
9913     0.00000000000000000005 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000 1.00000000000000000000
9914    
9915     due to the fact that whether 1+x and 1 are the same number depends on whether
9916     the numbers are in the FPU or not.
9917 root 1.387 %
9918 root 1.388 [Grüner Tip/Arte]
9919 root 1.1 Ihre Nachbarn sind zu laut und feiern andauernd Parties? Kein Problem, ihr
9920 root 1.388 Bohrer wird nachts um zwei spielend mit _jedem_ Lärm fertig....
9921 root 1.387 %
9922 root 1.1 Remember, eating healthy doesn't make you live longer, it just makes it seem
9923     longer...
9924 root 1.387 %
9925 root 1.1 [M$ about unix development tools like GCC]
9926     By the standards of the novice / intermediate developer accustomed to
9927     VB/VS/VC/VJ, these tools are incredibly primitive.
9928 root 1.387 %
9929 root 1.1 > > Praha is nice and our university is interesting, since it is according
9930     > > to tests most complex and impractical computer science university on the
9931     > > world :) I just love it...
9932     >
9933     > Oh well, great that I won't be studying there...
9934     >
9935     It is really fun.... just now I have lesson (that reminds me that I really
9936     should go now) about set theory and infinity... it is really fun and very
9937     practical...
9938     for example that you have cinema with infinity chairs and infinity plus one
9939     person wants to see movie... what do yo do?
9940     Just let sit down the first infinity persons and then last person ask first
9941     one to move to second chair, second one to move to third and so on and
9942     everyone fits.. isn't that great to know? :))
9943    
9944     Jan Hubicka
9945 root 1.387 %
9946 root 1.1 > template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> A {};
9947     [...]
9948     > I think that this construction is allowed by the ANSI C++.
9949    
9950     No, it is not. What you meant is
9951    
9952     template< template< template<class> class > class Tmpl> class A {};
9953 root 1.387 %
9954 root 1.1 Jan Dubois writes:
9955     > A) perl-5.00553
9956     > path = \perl\5.00553\bin\MsWin32-x86\perl.exe
9957     > cc = cl.exe
9958     A performance analysis compiling with M$ compiler? Get real!
9959    
9960     [...]
9961    
9962     Ilya
9963 root 1.387 %
9964 root 1.1 >Shouldn't the kernel compile with all combinations of options.
9965    
9966     Yes. Feel free to fix it and send a patch.
9967    
9968     p.
9969 root 1.387 %
9970 root 1.1 [tomc]
9971     Jean-Louis provides four arguments in favor of the overloading of the
9972     logical && and || operators. Here they are:
9973    
9974     +------------------------------------------+
9975     | Other languages, notably C++, permit it. |
9976     +------------------------------------------+
9977    
9978     This one is hardly persuasive. Many languages do innumerable things
9979     that Perl does not do. Just for example, take:
9980    
9981     * Csh reparses and re-evals interpolated strings, allowing something
9982     like C<$cmd $var> to do interesting things.
9983     * The Fortran lexer (as it were), having no need of white space to
9984     infer tokens, allows C<DO I=1.10> and C<DO I=1,10> to coexist in an
9985     interesting way.
9986     * Icon has an entirely different notion of success and failure,
9987     allowing expressions like (X < Y < Z) to do interesting things.
9988     * Scheme has call-with-continuation, allowing co-routines to do
9989     interesting things.
9990     * C++ has template classes with abnormal typing rules even for that
9991     language, allowing parameterized meta-classes to do interesting
9992     things.
9993 root 1.387 %
9994 root 1.1 Make is like Pascal: everybody likes it, so they go in and change it.
9995     --Dennis Ritchie
9996 root 1.387 %
9997 root 1.1 perl -wlpe '}{$_=$.' file # Count the number of lines.
9998 root 1.387 %
9999 root 1.1 [not quite duff's device, but...]
10000    
10001     switch (x)
10002     default:
10003     if (prime(x))
10004     case 2: case 3: case 5: case 7:
10005     process_prime(x);
10006     else
10007     case 4: case 6: case 8: case 9: case 10:
10008     process_composite(x);
10009 root 1.387 %
10010 root 1.1 Is there any truth to the rumor that the number appearing
10011     after the words "Microsoft Windows" is the minimum amount of memory,
10012     in megabytes, required for execution?
10013    
10014     Craig Milo Rogers
10015 root 1.387 %
10016 root 1.1 Mark Mielke writes:
10017     > This statement is false. The simple fact that school textbooks teach it
10018     > to be indeterminate should be enough to convince you of that.
10019    
10020     This is just another reference point about the state of education in
10021     US (apparently in Canada too?).
10022    
10023     Ilya
10024 root 1.387 %
10025 root 1.1 [from p5p]
10026     > Now you know why threading is experimental and all, buddy.
10027    
10028     Experimental schexperimental. Anything that doesn't cause an
10029     immediate coredump is not experimental. :-) (Observant readers will
10030     note that this is a more rigorous standard than Microsoft's.)
10031    
10032     Nat
10033 root 1.387 %
10034 root 1.1 Needless to say, Linux awk is probably gawk, which has been taking too
10035     much steroids for a while. =)
10036    
10037     --Albert Dvornik
10038     <bert@genscan.com>
10039 root 1.387 %
10040 root 1.1 Subject: Re: zero width lookbehind considered slow
10041     From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@jhereg.perl.com>
10042     Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:40:37 -0500
10043    
10044     >*You* do not understand? Perl is slow...
10045    
10046     Ilya: You are formerly invited to go play in the python
10047     or tcl crowd instead of here.
10048    
10049     --tom
10050 root 1.387 %
10051 root 1.1 >What's it? Can linux be improved too? Or has it already been improved?
10052    
10053     Linux has never done anything so stupid in the first place.
10054    
10055     Linus
10056 root 1.387 %
10057 root 1.1 On the 8th day god created email. And got noted the world was good. Then the
10058     devil added HTML mail...
10059 root 1.387 %
10060 root 1.1 linux/lib/vsprintf.c: * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds fucked it up :-)
10061     linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/binfmt_aout32.c: /* Fuck me plenty... */
10062     linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/ptrace.c:/* Fuck me gently with a chainsaw... */
10063 root 1.387 %
10064 root 1.1 On 1998-10-11T02:37:57,
10065     Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> said:
10066    
10067     > Believe me Microsoft think Linux is a threat now. Its level with things like
10068     > java in their perceived threat list, so you can expect all the usual MS
10069     > techniques to start coming this way and very soon.
10070    
10071     Arm the gnus!
10072 root 1.387 %
10073 root 1.1 [David Miller after (another) endless discussion with Richard Kenner]
10074    
10075     Anyways, I tired (just like everyone else) of arguing endlessly with
10076     you, you're in the past, you no longer constrain my ability to improve
10077     gcc, so go away.
10078 root 1.387 %
10079 root 1.1 I received my copy of Visual Studio 6.0 today. I couldn't believe that it
10080     wanted to install the C++ compiler into a directory called:
10081    
10082     "\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98"
10083    
10084     But anyways, I just had to find out if it was finally possible to compile
10085     Perl (without PERL_OBJECT) with optimization (-O2).
10086 root 1.387 %
10087 root 1.1 [on perl version numbering]
10088     > So it could be 5.006 for the developers, but "ThreadPerl" or "Perl with
10089     > Multithreads" (or some such) for the journalists, if that's what
10090     > journalists need to make them pay attention.
10091    
10092     Down that path lies "Perl version 5.006, codename `Ticklish Uvula',
10093     was released today" madness.
10094 root 1.387 %
10095 root 1.1 [on perl version numbering]
10096     > elaine> 5.1 would be a good thing(tm) as it would draw attention,
10097     > elaine> etc. in a way that a developers versioning would. The
10098     > elaine> world is not populated by people who think the same
10099     > elaine> way. To that end, this would be a good change. Of course,
10100     > elaine> we could call it Perl99.
10101     >
10102     > To me, Perl seems to be recognized for it's language qualities, not
10103     > for marketing reasons. IMHO, perl may keep this difference with other
10104     > wintel product. More than that : Perl99, would let believe people that
10105     > it is not Y2K proofed, or still in beta (<1.00). So it's not a good
10106     > marketing name, anyway.
10107    
10108     Right. Then, to be Y2K compliant, we'll have to call it Perl1999. Hmmm.
10109     "The year perl left earth's orbit"? Maybe we need to get the NASA guys to
10110     put perl on the next low-cost spaceshot.
10111    
10112     Of course, then c.l.p.m's motto could be "We do not commit *mindless*
10113     violence..." :-)
10114 root 1.387 %
10115 root 1.1 Rule 1 says that Larry says that Larry has the last say, unless he changes
10116     his mind in which case he still has the last say.
10117 root 1.387 %
10118 root 1.1 > >I never said it did.. I should have said: Binary only drivers encourage
10119     > >poor drivers
10120     >
10121     > No it doesn't.
10122    
10123     Indeed. Its down to
10124    
10125     Profit = (units * margin) - overhead
10126    
10127     and the folks who decide "overhead" arent the programmers but the management.
10128     The folks who say "you have two weeks allocated to write this driver, then
10129     we ship it" are the folks to take the issue up with, and that goes source
10130     or binaries.
10131 root 1.387 %
10132 root 1.1 dig txt leap.yp.to
10133 root 1.387 %
10134 root 1.1 "The fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that nobody's after me..."
10135 root 1.387 %
10136 root 1.1 [linux-kernel on endianess issues with NIPQUAD]
10137    
10138     |> Do I read this correct?!? Is it more acceptable to have a bug[*],
10139     |> than a not optimal fix?!?!?
10140     |>
10141     |> s/optimal/stupid/
10142    
10143     What's stupid is little endian. <g>
10144    
10145     Andreas.
10146 root 1.387 %
10147 root 1.1 [Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
10148     ...
10149     A closely related question is `What is 1 minute before 23:59:60?''.
10150    
10151     Here's a good one: `What is 1 month before 1 February 1995 in
10152     Kiritimati?''. There was no 1 January 1995 in Kiritimati; they
10153     skipped a day by moving the clocks ahead 24 hours. Similar issues
10154     arise when asking about times that occur within smaller, more typical
10155     UTC offset changes. A number of obscure questions arise here, and I'm
10156     not sure it's worth standardizing all the answers.
10157 root 1.387 %
10158 root 1.1 [D.J.Bernstein on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
10159    
10160     Paul Eggert writes:
10161     > which I am calling the `modified TIME_TAI''
10162    
10163     Your time differences break down near leap seconds. Ever watched xntpd
10164     try to handle a leap second? Wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble.
10165 root 1.387 %
10166 root 1.1 For binary only drivers you can assume most vendors will build x86 only
10167     however.
10168    
10169     "We don't have the tools"
10170     "We can't support a non intel build"
10171     "We don't have that sort of machine"
10172     "Its not worth the time cost"
10173     "Whats an Alpha ?"
10174 root 1.387 %
10175 root 1.1 On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote:
10176    
10177     > The original message was received at Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:39:56 -0400
10178     > from mini [10.0.0.3]
10179     >
10180     > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
10181     > <mailproc@fred>
10182     >
10183     > ----- Transcript of session follows -----
10184     > procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
10185     > procmail: can't map '/lib/libc.so.5'
10186     > procmail: can't load library 'libc.so.5'
10187     > 554 <mailproc@fred>... unknown mailer error 16
10188 root 1.387 %
10189 root 1.1 > Here is the difficulty with this discussion:
10190     > No documented problem
10191     > No reason to believe that the "solution" solves the unspecified "problem"
10192     > No clear understanding of the effects of this change on the system
10193     >
10194     > Why, this could be a discusion among AIX developers!
10195 root 1.387 %
10196 root 1.1 > This would be a reasonable committee-like compromise that might
10197     > satisfy neither of us (:-).
10198 root 1.387 %
10199 root 1.1 By default Microsoft has set Explorer to use gz files as VRML, you need to
10200     change the association for .gz / vrml from "start vrml program" to "always ask"
10201    
10202     dave
10203 root 1.387 %
10204 root 1.1 On 10 Aug 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
10205     DG> You're not programming MS-DOS applications are you?
10206    
10207     BP> Hell no. I wouldn't touch MS-DOS with a ten-foot network cable.
10208 root 1.387 %
10209 root 1.1 [Paul Eggert on tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov]
10210    
10211     Date: 10 Oct 1998 15:35:05 -0000
10212     From: "D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>
10213    
10214     Paul Eggert writes:
10215     > * 29 February if it's a leap lear, 28 February otherwise.
10216    
10217     If that's 1 month before 31 March, then what's 1 month before 30 March?
10218     1 month before 29 March?
10219    
10220     The same as 1 month before 31 March.
10221    
10222     1 month before 28 March?
10223    
10224     28 February.
10225    
10226     And what's 1 month after 28 February? 1 month after 27 February? 1 month
10227     _before_ 27 February?
10228    
10229     28 March, 27 March, and 27 January.
10230 root 1.387 %
10231 root 1.1 Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
10232    
10233     >Nils Goesche wrote:
10234     >> So make a security check first:
10235     >>
10236     >> if (status = UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK)
10237     >> launch_full_counterstrike();
10238     >
10239     >Hmmm. The way the worlds been going lately, AI wouldn't trust that code to
10240     >do the job. Here's the revised version:
10241     >
10242     >if(status == UNDER_NULEAR_ATTACK); /* Corrected dangerous
10243     > = instead of == error*/
10244     > launch_full_counterstrike();
10245     >
10246     >Now isn't that much more reliable?
10247     >
10248     >--
10249     >Email: cyrand@hotmail.com
10250    
10251     The following variant is less reliable but much safer:
10252    
10253     if (status == UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK); /* Correct dangerous
10254     launch_full_counterstrike (); = instead == error */
10255 root 1.387 %
10256 root 1.1 It is even more cheerful than that. Not so long time ago a customers
10257     of ours totally destroyed his NT installation on Alpha.
10258    
10259     He found on a manufacturer page, no money - for a download, "NT driver"
10260     for his particular piece of a hardware. So he followed instructions
10261     to the letter - "Installation Wizzard" and all that crap - and the thing
10262     happily installed clobbering, as it is customary in these circles,
10263     essential system libraries with its own versions. The catch was that
10264     this driver was for NT/Intel and these bozos did not even bother to
10265     check for an architecture or at least mention something in some blurb.
10266     Ooops! No chance even to try to boot anymore.
10267    
10268     The saving grace was that the installation was rather new, so loses
10269     were not big, and he had an opportunity to practice an essential skill
10270     of re-installing Windows NT. Ah, and yes, this was the only NT driver
10271     available for that hardware from any source.
10272     What do you plan on doing? Using a PA system for networking? :)
10273     Whats next? A *Smell* modem? It would bring a new meaning to packet
10274     sniffing!
10275 root 1.387 %
10276 root 1.1 "I'd rather spend 10 hours reading source code than 10 minutes on a
10277     technical support line that isn't"
10278 root 1.387 %
10279 root 1.1 [from linux-kernel]
10280     `This code fills 8 million seats, we therefore decide what's standard.''
10281 root 1.387 %
10282 root 1.1 [...]
10283     And especially with new machines users have a lot of clout. Several UK
10284     suppliers now carry Buslogic cards partly because they got fed up of
10285    
10286     "I'd like to order a dual PII/300, 256Mb of RAM, 17" monitor
10287     4 4Gig IBM disks, and a buslogic scsi controller"
10288     "We dont do buslogic only adaptec"
10289     "Nothing else"
10290     "Sorry"
10291     [Click]
10292    
10293     Alan
10294 root 1.387 %
10295 root 1.388 Fünfzig Prozent der Amerikaner wurden in ihrer Kindheit sexuell mißbraucht,
10296     während weitere fünfzig Prozent von Außerirdischen entführt wurden.
10297 root 1.387 %
10298 root 1.1 > Let's not forget that this is just an informal, free
10299     > software project. Unlke the US House of Representatives
10300     > we do not yet posess nuclear capability (certain RTEMS
10301     > users excepted, of course!).
10302    
10303     Hmmm, if some RTEMS users have nuclear facilities attached to their
10304     systems, they might be well advised to be careful using FORTRAN as
10305     their language of choice. The comp.lang.fortran FAQ states (with
10306     concurrence from resident X3J3 members) that "using a non-standard
10307     construct might start WW III, if the necessary (optional) hardware
10308     is installed"
10309    
10310     [Toon Moene in private discussion]
10311 root 1.387 %
10312 root 1.1 Newsgroups: alt.config
10313    
10314     L. Harris wrote:
10315     >
10316     > Testing
10317    
10318     you failed.
10319 root 1.387 %
10320 root 1.1 Roswell {Unit 6 of 5 Sam Borg} Coverup [Rev. joWazzoo - well mannered despammer]
10321     <JOWazzoo@WhiteICE.com> at We are Sam Borg Spam Assimilators Ltd. - Area 51 HQ
10322 root 1.387 %
10323 root 1.1 Perl is really designed more for the guys that will hack Perl at least
10324     20 minutes a day for the rest of their career. TCL/Python is more a
10325     "20 minutes a week", and VB is probably in that "20 minutes a month"
10326     group. :) -- Randal Schwartz
10327 root 1.387 %
10328 root 1.1 > alternative, when it comes to stability and power...Not to mention the
10329     > fact that bugs and fixes are very quickly available and don't come in
10330     > 18MB+ "Service Packs" :).
10331    
10332     What, you mean you _paid_ for service pack '98?
10333 root 1.387 %
10334 root 1.1 We got this INTERNET because we whan't more information ( to learn ) now it
10335     seem's people can't handle what they see. You say freedom is a mater of
10336     choice (well it is) you have the freedom to choose to carry your butt some
10337     where else...
10338 root 1.387 %
10339 root 1.1 Steve Orzel (phloam@vol.com) wrote:
10340     [...]
10341     : The purpose of the newsgroup is to help out other people that have questions
10342     : about a certain topic.
10343 root 1.387 %
10344 root 1.1 Mark Robinson wrote:
10345     >
10346     > Does any have any source code to games that I can have? Does anybody
10347     > know where I can get game sources(legally)?
10348    
10349     Here's the trial version of the three-room text adventure I'm going to
10350     write. I'm not finished yet, though.
10351    
10352     void main (void)
10353     {
10354     printf ("You are in a dark room.\n");
10355     printf ("\n");
10356     printf ("You feel a sharp pain.\n");
10357     printf ("You have died.\n");
10358     printf ("\n");
10359     printf ("!!! GAME OVER !!!");
10360     }
10361    
10362     (Don't tell, but I took some of the code from Quake.)
10363    
10364     --
10365     John Kugelman. kugelman@mnsinc.com
10366 root 1.387 %
10367 root 1.1 [mail I got after releasing a zip-password cracker, the second biggest
10368     mistake I ever made]
10369    
10370     From: "Tom Miller"
10371     Subject: Can
10372     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
10373    
10374     Hay man can you send me some hacking tips and tricks please
10375     send to kymmiller@bigpond.com
10376     my name is Tom Miller
10377    
10378     From: "Tom Miller"
10379     Subject: Wait
10380     X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
10381    
10382     Hey man its Tom can you also send me any easy systems to hack and the
10383     passwords also send me any infomation about hacking websites thank you
10384 root 1.387 %
10385 root 1.1 From: lm@bitmover.com (Larry McVoy)
10386    
10387     [...] then think a little before flaming. Or better yet, produce something
10388     better. Flaming is easy but it is basically masturbation without the orgasm
10389     so why bother? [...]
10390 root 1.387 %
10391 root 1.388 Günter Höns <guenter.hoens@gmd.de>
10392 root 1.1
10393     Newsgroups: de.alt.ufo
10394    
10395     Offensichtlich ist noch keinem das Wasser-Wachstum aufgefallen, das sogar
10396     jeden Tag geschieht. Jeden Tag waechst der Wasserberg im Meer um mehrere
10397     Meter, ist dann naeher an der Sonne und verdunstet dann. Sogenannte
10398     Wissenschaftler haben eine abenteuerliche Theorie ueber den Einfluss des
10399     Mondes auf dieses Wachstum aufgestellt, aber inzwischen wissen wir es
10400     besser: Die Wasser-Molekuele werden von Neutrinos getroffen, und verdoppeln
10401     sich dann.
10402 root 1.387 %
10403 root 1.1 CRASH(8)
10404     no fs
10405     A device has disappeared from the mounted-device table.
10406     Definitely hardware or software error.
10407    
10408     Unix Version 7 Manual
10409 root 1.387 %
10410 root 1.1 On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Larry Wall wrote:
10411     >
10412     > Maybe Pi looks like this:
10413     >
10414     > =for C
10415     > i++; /* add 1 to i */
10416     > =end
10417     > =for C++
10418     > i.value() += 1; // add 1 to i, probably
10419     > =end
10420     > =for Java
10421     > system().foo().bar().i().value().please().increment(); // ???
10422     > =end
10423     >
10424     > :-)
10425 root 1.387 %
10426 root 1.1 > > USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW!
10427 root 1.387 %
10428 root 1.1 [on linux 2.1.111]
10429    
10430     The horrid underlining which was a feature with the monochrome Linux vt's on
10431     the previous two releases of the kernel has gone. Unfortunately, so has the
10432     cursor. A couple of brief experiments didn't result in me finding a way to
10433     turn it on.
10434 root 1.387 %
10435 root 1.1 [...]
10436     its a true story, it happend this weekend in a nice country
10437     between Belgium (wellknown for its Dutroux-case) and Germany
10438     (wellknown for its Bratwurst), lets call it the Lowlands...
10439     [...]
10440 root 1.387 %
10441 root 1.1 I get a sense of god-like proportions when I patch /dev/kmem with dd(1).
10442    
10443     Chad C Giffin
10444 root 1.387 %
10445 root 1.1 [usenet, an anology]
10446     Mary Green's car was smoking. She got worried. "Whatever should I do?"
10447     worried Mary... Well, as she drove along she noticed a florists shop. "Aha!
10448     Thought Mary, "Flour shops are full of thoughtless men who need to apologize to
10449     their wives. These men are the sometimes the same ones I see swearing under
10450     the hoods of their cars in the shade of a tree."
10451    
10452     "Brrring" said the bell of the door to the flower shop as Mary poked her head
10453     through the door.
10454     "HELP!!! MY CAR IS SMOKING!" Screamed Mary.
10455     "There is a garage right next door." Said the shopkeeper.
10456     "That's right," Said Melvin, "And there is a parts store across the street. If
10457     you ask for Fred, he's pretty savvy about that kind of stuff."
10458     Now Joe was also in the flower store. This was his first time in trouble, so
10459     he did not hear the 30 or 40 people per day who came in screaming about their
10460     cars smoking (mostly men, of course -- the ones under the shade trees,
10461     usually.)
10462    
10463     "Why don't you help the stinking lady!!" Screamed Joe. "It might be your
10464     muffler bearings..." he continued. Or maybe it's your deisel glow plugs or
10465     your tire pressure..."
10466     Now Tim, also new to the flower shop felt the courage to chime in, "Or it could
10467     even be your cooling system. Sometimes a hose gets a crack."
10468     "My car smoked once and it was an oil leak, where the head gasket was spraying
10469     oil in the manifold." Hollered Larry
10470     "Hey lady, why don't you get your car the patch if it's smoking" chortled Glen.
10471     Well, the hollering went on into the evening, and the lady finally went to the
10472     gas station and found that the heater core had a tiny split and was repaired in
10473     three days for a cost of $175.23.
10474 root 1.387 %
10475 root 1.1 > Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
10476    
10477     Sicher, das macht der Inzest, und die Isolation!:)
10478 root 1.387 %
10479 root 1.1 > Nun gut, Berliner sollen ja eh etwas heller sein.
10480    
10481     Stimmt, deswegen waren sie wohl auch die ersten, die Hitler hinterherliefen...
10482     :-(
10483 root 1.387 %
10484 root 1.1 >Mt 24,34 Wahrlich, ich sage euch: Dieses Geschlecht wird nicht vergehen, bis
10485     >dies alles geschieht.
10486     >Und es verging nicht.
10487    
10488     So what?
10489    
10490     Ich dachte eher an:
10491    
10492     " 'Und sein Wabbel wird an einer Lanze aufgespiesst', wiederholte der
10493     Oberste Groesste Meister grimmig. Im Hintergrund knarrte etwas, als
10494     Bruder Pfoertner versuchte, das klemmende Portal zu oeffnen. 'Sind wir
10495     jetzt alle soweit? Befinden sich vielleicht noch andere Unwissende
10496     unter uns,die sich verirrt haben?' fuegte er mit aetzendem Sarkasmus
10497     hinzu. 'Gut. Wunderbar. Ich bin ja _so_ froh. Vermutlich brauche ich
10498     nicht zu fragen, ob die vier Wachtuerme geschlossen sind, oder? Oh,
10499     ausgezeichnet. Hat sich jemand die Muehe gemacht, der Heiligen Hose
10500     die Beichte abzunehmen? Ach, tatsaechlich? Auf die richtige Art und
10501     Weise? Und wenn ich nachsehe? Na schoen. Sind vor den Fenstern die
10502     roten Kordeln des Intellekts gespannt worden? Gut. Nun, dann koennen
10503     wir jetzt vielleicht beginnen.' ".
10504    
10505     Terry Pratchett, "Wachen! Wachen!", S. 15f
10506    
10507     Antje
10508 root 1.387 %
10509 root 1.1 [....]
10510    
10511     Da muss ich ja, obwohl ich beinahe meinen Humor verloren haette, leise
10512     grinsen. Ich darf zusammenfassen: Du bringst uns keine Beweise, weil Du 1.
10513     zu arm und 2. zu sehr ausgelastet mit der Rettung der Welt und der Zukunft
10514     und so bist. Ausserdem brauchst Du keine Beweise, weil sich Dein
10515     Gedankengebaeude nach eingehender Nabelschau als selbsttragend erwiesen hat.
10516     Finde ich gut! Akzeptiert!
10517    
10518     Da will ich nicht weiter stoeren,
10519    
10520     Antje
10521 root 1.387 %
10522 root 1.1 It seems that writing to /dev/vcs0 makes the console singing "Ugh,
10523     lalala, I love you baby..."
10524     --
10525     Pavel.Janik@inet.cz
10526 root 1.387 %
10527 root 1.1 On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Linus Torvalds wrote:
10528     >
10529     > Kubys
10530    
10531     Kubys is my evil twin brother. Sorry about that.
10532    
10533     Linus
10534 root 1.387 %
10535 root 1.1 > eieio stands for "Enforce In-Order Execution of I/O".
10536    
10537     .... and it is definitely my favorite name for an assembly language
10538     instruction (the non-native-English speakers on the list presumably
10539     don't know the childhood song "Old McDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O").
10540 root 1.387 %
10541 root 1.1 > It is *big* and never uses.
10542    
10543     That's parses like English, but I'll be hornswoggled if I can figure
10544     out what it means.
10545     --
10546     Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - <chip@perlsupport.com>
10547 root 1.387 %
10548 root 1.1 [...] HP's PA-8500, for example, has 1.5 Mbytes of L1 cache on-chip. The
10549     company has described the 8500 as a cache SRAM with an ancillary CPU. [...]
10550 root 1.387 %
10551 root 1.1 From: Dave Cinege <dcinege@psychosis.com>
10552     Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:10:31 -0400
10553    
10554     Terry L Ridder wrote:
10555    
10556     > at some future date end up being released under the BSD License is what
10557     > is being discussed.
10558    
10559     Well my licence is bigger then your licence.
10560 root 1.387 %
10561 root 1.1 [gtk/testgtk, after dragging & dropping an object:]
10562    
10563     Drop data of type text/plain was:
10564    
10565     Bill Gates demands royalties for your use of his innovation
10566    
10567     [and the button reads]
10568    
10569     Continue with life in spite of this oppression
10570 root 1.387 %
10571 root 1.1 Joshua Waxman <jwaxman@ymail.yu.edu> writes:
10572    
10573     While DJGPP is indeed a C as well as a C compiler, there are certain
10574    
10575     A terribly succinct, as well as a true, statement. However, it has a
10576     certain amount of redundancy.
10577 root 1.387 %
10578 root 1.1 Compatibility with oneself is Microsoft's greatest strength. When they hit
10579     the 64 bit transition they will hit a major internal incompatibility problem.
10580    
10581     ...
10582    
10583     Peter da Silva <peter@baileynm.com>
10584 root 1.387 %
10585 root 1.1 >Hello,
10586     >
10587     >I am new to Perl. Can anyone tell me where I can download a full
10588     >operational Perl version for a Windows 95 system?
10589     >
10590    
10591     Of course it all depends on what you mean by "a full operational Perl
10592     version" Perl on Win32 has limitations that are largely due to the
10593     nature of the underlying OS, Perl on Win95 has further limitations
10594     compared with NT due to its own shortcomings .
10595 root 1.387 %
10596 root 1.1 An injunction delaying Windows 98 would clearly have a negative impact
10597     on the country as a whole.
10598     Compaq President & CEO Eckhard Pfeiffer,
10599     explaining why Microsoft shouldn't be
10600     prosecuted under anti-monopoly laws.
10601 root 1.387 %
10602 root 1.1 With a PC, I always felt limited by the software available. On Unix, I am
10603     limited by my knowledge. --Peter J. Schoenster <pschon@baste.magibox.net>
10604 root 1.387 %
10605 root 1.1 There is a need to keep from being locked into Open Systems. --IBM sales rep
10606 root 1.387 %
10607 root 1.1 In comp.lang.perl.misc,
10608     Stylin <stylinsty@yahoo.comREMOVE> writes:
10609     :Can anyone point me to the algorithm for creating a unique id?
10610    
10611     $id = `cat /dev/kmem`;
10612    
10613     --tom
10614     --
10615     Real programmers can write assembly code in any language. :-)
10616     --Larry Wall in <8571@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>
10617 root 1.387 %
10618 root 1.1 Newsgroup: comp.lang.perl.misc
10619     Subject: Larry 1 Bill 0
10620 root 1.387 %
10621 root 1.1 On 3 Jul 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
10622    
10623     > The only problem with these AIs is that they don't handle references
10624     > to themselves as AIs very well. In faSegmentation fault (core dumped)
10625     > NO CARRIER
10626     > !@*&#@#%T^@&*(GU*SD*(@!&*(@#R(*FERHGH*(@#(&$&#@Y!&R
10627 root 1.387 %
10628 root 1.1 > People come here to ask questions, not for intellectual gratification, but
10629     > rather they are seeking solutions. As such, the incorrect answer was
10630     > better.
10631    
10632     There's something... terribly wrong with this statement. I can't quite put
10633     my finger on it. Hmmm.
10634 root 1.387 %
10635 root 1.1 comp.lang.c does not exist to accomodate the laziness of those who cannot be
10636     bothered to learn netiquette. That's what comp.lang.c++ is for.
10637 root 1.387 %
10638 root 1.1 |> : > but... a microwave is an example of an embedded system,
10639     |>
10640     |> : Who says? He just said it was a microwave. He didn't say it was
10641     |> : a free-standing implimentation.
10642     |>
10643     |> This is approaching arguing for the sake of argument. Have you
10644     |> ever seen a microwave oven that supports a hosted C environment?
10645    
10646     The Lipton Ritchie Model 8 did. I'm sure that many posters will
10647     point out that Lipton's implementation of the stdio libraries was
10648     horrendously buggy. It was, but it was still a great system. It
10649     remains the only C implementation I know of that could be used to
10650     build Bison, and then cook it.
10651    
10652     Viva la buffalo burgers.
10653 root 1.387 %
10654 root 1.1 A strategically-placed PDP-11 can be used to heat your entire
10655     home. I've got one in my basement, next to a large box of "She's
10656     The Sheriff" drink coasters. I sold my furnace years ago. The
10657     Digital Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning Corporation
10658     can be found online at http://www.dhvacc.com/.
10659 root 1.387 %
10660 root 1.1 The lbxproxy program has various options, all of which are optional.
10661     -- lbxproxy(1)
10662 root 1.387 %
10663 root 1.1 Re: Where to learn Windows programming...
10664    
10665     |> I'll take a Schildt book any day, thanks.
10666    
10667     Great. I'm expecting to see the line above as a back-cover blurb
10668     on the next "Bullschildt: The Complete Reference".
10669 root 1.387 %
10670 root 1.1 Subject: Re: The wrong position of while, if and else?
10671    
10672     that's some ugly piece of code buddy...
10673 root 1.387 %
10674 root 1.1 In article <1998062718481700.OAA03186@ladder01.news.aol.com>, eyrei@aol.com (EYREI) writes:
10675     |> I have recently started learning the C Language. I have created a simple file
10676     |> to determine whether or not a number is Prime. When I run it, the program
10677     |> crashes with the error message :- Unhandled Exception :- General Protection
10678     |> Exception 0x5FD7:0x379F. Prime(1) Processor Fault.
10679    
10680     |> What does this mean.
10681    
10682     It means you've got a broken operating system, and should immediately
10683     install [free|net|open]BSD[OS] or Linux.
10684 root 1.387 %
10685 root 1.1 Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
10686    
10687     On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Emulov wrote:
10688     > Hi, i don't know if this is a stupid question..
10689    
10690     Off-topic, too! Imagine that.
10691 root 1.387 %
10692 root 1.1 "Right now we are the most shit hot piece of PC networking software on the
10693     planet. The only people who can touch us are FreeBSD (who also dont do
10694     streams)."
10695     -- Alan Cox, in "Streams and Linux"
10696 root 1.387 %
10697 root 1.1 "Perl combines all of the worst aspects of BASIC, C and line noise."
10698     - Keith Packard <keithp@ncd.com>
10699 root 1.387 %
10700 root 1.1 Lord Fellatio <richter_m@hotmail.com>
10701    
10702     >Wo soll das Loch denn dann sein? Im Meeresboden?
10703    
10704     Klaro.
10705    
10706     >Von oben duerfte man es also ueberhaupt nicht sehen
10707     >koennen, da ueber dem potentiellen Loch im Meeresboden doch
10708     >wahrscheinlich erstmal Wasser und dann viel Eis liegen wuerde. Wie
10709     >verhindern die Ausserirdischen denn, dass Wasser ins Loch einstroemt?
10710    
10711 root 1.388 Na ist doch völlig logo, mit nem rotierenden Traktorstrahl. Die
10712 root 1.1 Energie klauen die ?r***e dem Erdmagnetfeld.
10713    
10714     >Gibt es da einen kosmischen Badewannenstoepsel? Haben sie es mit
10715     >Eisbergen verstopft? Oder benutzen sie das einstroemende Wasser zu
10716     >Kajakfahrten bis hinunter zum Suedpol? (Das waere doch auch endlich
10717     >mal eine einleuchtende Erklaerung fuer die Eismassen, die die
10718     >Antarktis bedecken - man muesste halt nur, der Kontinentaldrift
10719     >folgend, immer wieder neue Schaechte bohren. Oder die Kontinentaldrift
10720     >einfach wegdiskutieren...)
10721    
10722     Die enorme Zentrifugalkraft im Erdinnern schleudert das Wasser wieder
10723     am Nordpolpol raus, falls der Traktorstrahl versagen sollte (Dies
10724     passiert immer dann, wenn das Erdmagnetfeld umkippt). Nun kommt sicher
10725 root 1.388 der Einwand, die Erde würde zu langsam rotieren. Das ist nur bedingt
10726     richtig. Richtig ist hingegen, daß die Rotationsgeschwindigkeit im
10727     Erdinnern um den Faktor 1000 (ca; sehr schwer zu messen: Magma) größer
10728     ist als auf der Erdoberfläche. Dies ist auch die Ursache für die
10729 root 1.1 Kontinentaldrift und die Mondphasen.
10730    
10731     Die Mondphasen wiederum beeinflussen das Erdmagnetfeld und sind daher
10732 root 1.388 die Ursache für die Sonnenflecken. Den Sonnenflecken haben wir auch
10733     die momentane Klimaveränderung zu verdanken. Auf der anderen Seite hat
10734     die Zunahme der Treibhausgase eine Erhöhung des Reflektionsvermögens
10735     der Atmosphäre zur Folge, welches dazu führt, daß ein Teil der
10736     Sonnenenergie zur Sonne zurückreflektiert wird. Dies heizt wiederum
10737     die Sonnenflecken auf und verkürzt deren Zyklus. All dies wird sich in
10738     den nächten Monaten so aufschaukeln, daß vorraussichtlich im Novemner
10739 root 1.1 2002 das Erdmagnetfeld zusammenbrechen wird. Wie damals bei den Dinos.
10740     Nur war dort ein Kometeneinschlag die Ursache.
10741    
10742     cu in hell 2002
10743 root 1.387 %
10744 root 1.1 "Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '85, Windows '95"
10745 root 1.387 %
10746 root 1.1 >In unix, one might say 'man 3 crypt'.
10747    
10748     Of course, on a Solaris system this won't give you what you want. You
10749     get a message that it can't find the man page for 3. It then prints
10750     the man page for crypt(1).
10751    
10752     Of course, all a beginner has to do is figure out that the 3 is the
10753     section number in the Unix manual. He can then use man man to find
10754     that on Solaris one uses -s to specify the section so he'll try
10755    
10756     man -s3 crypt
10757    
10758     Unfortunately, that doesn't work either. He'll get the message "No
10759     entry for crypt in section(s) 3 of the manual."
10760    
10761     If he doesn't give up, he can go back to the manual page for man and
10762     find that the -a switch prints all matching manual pages. Or perhaps
10763     he can figure out to use the command
10764    
10765     man -s3 Intro.3
10766    
10767     to get a list of everything in section 3. He'll then find out that
10768     crypt is in section 3C so he should use
10769    
10770     man -s3c crypt
10771    
10772     Gee. I don't understand why beginners have so much trouble with this
10773     stuff. I've only been programming Unix for 15 years and I don't have
10774     any trouble.
10775     --
10776     Michael M Rubenstein
10777 root 1.387 %
10778 root 1.1 Take a moment to consider these lines:
10779    
10780     %OVERLOAD=( '""' => sub { join("", @{$_[0]}) } );
10781    
10782     sub html { my($type)=shift; bless ["<$type>", @_, "</$type>"]; }
10783    
10784     :-) I *love* Perl 5! Thankyou Larry and Ilya.
10785    
10786     Regards,
10787     Tim Bunce.
10788    
10789     p.s. If you didn't get it, think about recursive data types: html(html())
10790     p.p.s. I'll turn this into a much more practical example in a day or two.
10791     p.p.p.s. It's a pity that overloads are not inherited. Is this a bug?
10792 root 1.387 %
10793 root 1.1 From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10794    
10795     ...
10796    
10797     > now is evil". This only shows two things: you never looked at the bad
10798     > experiences of the industry where following a rotten design and
10799     > keeping backward compatibility lead to unusable systems. And second:
10800    
10801     I worked for 3com. I know eveyrhting about following a rotten design until
10802     its unusable, believe me I do.
10803 root 1.387 %
10804 root 1.1 Ok(slow) -> !NeedComputer
10805    
10806     Semour Cray
10807 root 1.387 %
10808 root 1.1 Ullrich Jans at University of Karlsruhe, Germany:
10809    
10810     Oh Gott! Es ist voller crons!
10811 root 1.387 %
10812 root 1.1 From: p00h <p00h@MONMOUTH.COM>
10813     Subject: Re: AOL for Windows DoS/Exploit
10814    
10815     aol supports PARTIAL html, its like win95's implementation of tcp/ip
10816     it only supports parts of it
10817 root 1.387 %
10818 root 1.1 egcs/gcc/gcse.c:
10819     /* Help stamp out big monolithic functions! */
10820 root 1.387 %
10821 root 1.1 [...] Yes, I'm being sarcastic. Especially regarding HPPA assembler syntax
10822     as provided by HP, which was designed by someone who should not have been
10823     let near a language-design project like that, too often "little languages",
10824     whether assemblers, tools, or C++, are designed by people who are unaware
10825     of, or give little thought to, the outright readability of code written in
10826     the language, in the sense that the basic semantics should be fairly obvious
10827     *without* the reader having to memorize lots of semantic information.
10828    
10829     (In HPPA assembler's case, one glaring stupidity was the nullified branches,
10830     which have completely different semantics depending on whether the label
10831     being branched to happens to assemble to a negative or positive offset! A
10832     smarter design would have required the programmer to specify whether such a
10833     branch was a "forward" or "backward" branch explicitly, then the assembler
10834     and/or linker would complain if reality didn't match the programmer's
10835     specification. I've never looked into whether GNU's HPPA as fixes this
10836     botch; I gather GNU as fixes many botches, though, so it wouldn't surprise
10837     me if it did, even though that might make for some compatibility problems
10838     with existing HP as code.) [...]
10839    
10840     tq vm, (burley)
10841 root 1.387 %
10842 root 1.1 libc/posix/regex.h:
10843     /* The following two types have to be signed and unsigned integer type
10844     wide enough to hold a value of a pointer. For most ANSI compilers
10845     ptrdiff_t and size_t should be likely OK. Still size of these two
10846     types is 2 for Microsoft C. Ugh... */
10847     typedef long int s_reg_t;
10848     typedef unsigned long int active_reg_t;
10849 root 1.387 %
10850 root 1.1 libc/db2/db.h:
10851     /*
10852     * While Microsoft's compiler is ANSI C compliant, it doesn't have _STDC_
10853     * defined by default, you specify a command line flag or #pragma to turn
10854     * it on. Don't do that, however, because some of Microsoft's own header
10855     * files won't compile.
10856     */
10857 root 1.387 %
10858 root 1.1 > UTC variation and begining and ending dates of DST (if observed) would be
10859     > great.
10860    
10861     I answered only the places I can comment on.
10862    
10863     > BASSAS DA INDIA
10864    
10865     This rock is below water half of the time!
10866     If any inhabitants have been there, I do not think they observe DST
10867     on a regular basis! ;-)
10868 root 1.387 %
10869 root 1.1 # ./test-plugin.pl
10870     Bizarre copy of CODE in sassign at /root/.gimp/plug-ins/test-plugin.pl line 40.
10871     wire_read: unexpected EOF (plug-in crashed?)
10872 root 1.387 %
10873 root 1.1 >
10874     > The "where do you want to go today?" generation has taken the
10875     > developer out of the "programmer" by removing the vital, development
10876     > tools from the environment and precanning software.
10877    
10878     No kidding. Point. Click. Point. Click. Point. Click. Brain Atrophy.
10879 root 1.387 %
10880 root 1.1 Lars Chr Hausmann <36haus@but.auc.dk> writes:
10881    
10882     >Hello!
10883    
10884     >I have to write something about, what Perl is.
10885     >I need some crystal clear info about, what perl is. So if any of you
10886     >would be so kind just to mail. Then I would be grateful!
10887    
10888    
10889     Perl.
10890    
10891     regards
10892     jobst
10893 root 1.387 %
10894 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Cyrix 6x86MX and Centaur C6 CPUs in 2.1.102
10895     From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
10896     Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:31:02 +0100 (BST)
10897    
10898     > Well, that depends. They SHOULD be. By Intel 'standards' *laff*, they have
10899     > to be identical stepping, indicating identical features. However, I've
10900    
10901     They don't. Pentiums have fairly strict rules, P6/PII much less. Also Intel
10902     are pretty good at following the MP 1.1/1.4 standard its the motherboard
10903     makers who get it wrong - primarily the BIOS is full of bugs. It appears
10904     nobody tests bios code against specs any more. It looks like they do
10905     compile flash, boot 95, boot NT, ship. The quality of bios code has dived to
10906     the absolute pits.
10907 root 1.387 %
10908 root 1.1 Unix never says `Please.' -- Rob Pike
10909 root 1.387 %
10910 root 1.1 > What about: . scriptname
10911     > ------------------^ this is a dot!
10912    
10913     Funny, it looks like a "p" to me.
10914 root 1.387 %
10915 root 1.1 A computer without Microsoft and IBM is like chocolate cake without
10916     ketchup and mustard
10917 root 1.387 %
10918 root 1.1 Subject: Re: Challange for perl `GURUS
10919    
10920     vimal gajjar wrote:
10921     >
10922     > Hi there,
10923     > Here is a small challange. Is it possible to have a perl
10924     > code which takes e.g. three parameters as input. time, val1, val2. and
10925     > the name of the prog. is say challange.pl. Now if i execute
10926     > "challange.pl 10 5 2" this perl script wille consume
10927     > 5% of cpu
10928     > 2 Mb of RAM
10929     > for the period of 10 Seconds.
10930     >
10931     > can one of the gurus take this challange?
10932    
10933     Examining the 5 copies of this post has consumed 5% of the
10934     brain power I allocate to reviewing c.l.p.m, about 10 seconds, and
10935     has caused the death of 2 million brain cells.
10936 root 1.387 %
10937 root 1.1 > >> /A:You can usually write the program faster than you can
10938     > >> dial/dl/hangup/install/read docs/fix it/fix the fix/.
10939     >
10940     > >s/usually/never/
10941     >
10942     > s/sometimes/never/
10943    
10944     Cute. You embarrass yourself by your ignorance of perl.
10945 root 1.387 %
10946 root 1.1 :That's probably true, but I really can't speak to it. But, if there
10947     :were no *nix around, there'd be no Perl. Nor would there be a need for
10948     :Perl, IMO.
10949    
10950     Gotta love them JCL and ini dot bat dot bad dot doo dah files.
10951    
10952     TC
10953 root 1.387 %
10954 root 1.1 'cc:Mail is a wonderful application, as long as you don't want to read or send mail.'
10955 root 1.387 %
10956 root 1.1 shurik@iron.Te.NeT.UA - Alexandr Dubovikov at TeNeT Networking Centre
10957    
10958     Hi guys!
10959    
10960     How check socket, alive it or die ?
10961 root 1.387 %
10962 root 1.1 --> Questions not to ask on linux-kernel <--
10963    
10964     Miscellaneous flame-wars:
10965     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
10966     12) The gnome-kde debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
10967     13) The emacs-vi debate does not belong on linux-kernel.
10968     14) Porting linux to run under windows is not interesting.
10969     15) Whether a given intel CISC chip "is really RISC" is not interesting.
10970 root 1.387 %
10971 root 1.1 Subject: what a week!
10972     From: "C. Scott Ananian" <cananian@lcs.mit.edu>
10973     Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 03:13:23 -0400 (EDT)
10974    
10975     unicode, boot-logos, GGI, STREAMS, the necessity of a short devel cycle
10976     and the instability of 2.0.x, "ifconfig stopped working", "you really *do*
10977     need to remove 'encaps'", Linus' tarball practices... it seems like we're
10978     running out of things to flame off on. Here's my humble contribution:
10979    
10980     I'VE MADE A KEWL NEW CHARSET THAT I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD USE. IT HAS ALL
10981     THE LETTERS IN MY LOGIN MAPPED TO THE LOWEST 16 CHARACTERS SO WE CAN
10982     COMPRESS THINGS REAL GOOD AND THE LETTERS IN MY BROTHER B1FF'S NAME ARE
10983     ALL IN HIGH ASCII CUZ THAT'S WHERE LOSERS BELONG!!!2!!7
10984    
10985     I ONLY USE EMACS AND I THINK VI SUX!!$231!!
10986    
10987     GNOME RULES AND KDE IS DEMON-SPAWN BECAUSE IT IS NOT FREE.! !
10988    
10989     WE NEED KGI IN THE KERNEL (NOT LIBGGI, NOT THE TERMINAL IMPROVEMENTS
10990     WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED) IN ORDER TO HAVE WAY KEWL BOOT LOGOS AND RUN MY
10991     BROTHER B1FF'S GAMES!!1!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!11!!!
10992    
10993     I USE A BIG-ENDIAN MACHINE BECAUSE THEY RULE. LITTLE-ENDIAN MACHINES ARE
10994     EVIL. AND A PENTIUM *IS* A RISC PROCESSOR!!!
10995    
10996     WE SHOULD PORT LINUX TO WINDOWS SO WE CAN USE ALL THE KEWL HARDWARE
10997     DRIVERS!!!!!@@#!
10998    
10999     Did I miss any? ;-)
11000    
11001     *Please* don't respond seriously to this email. It's a joke. A joke.
11002     Laugh. Please.
11003    
11004     And then let's kill all the flaming threads, shall we?
11005     --Scott
11006 root 1.387 %
11007 root 1.1 > Well, /proc/kcore already reports its actual size...
11008    
11009     And it isn't about to change at runtime either. That is the size of
11010     installed memory. I've yet to see a single person successfully insert or
11011     remove a SIMM/DIMM while a machine was running. If they did, and it was
11012     successful, the linux code will update the filesize. ;o)
11013 root 1.387 %
11014 root 1.1 Toby Heywood (toby@he-net.demon.co.uk) wrote:
11015     : This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
11016    
11017     One of those 'M's stands for Mail.
11018    
11019     This is not mail.
11020    
11021     This is Usenet.
11022    
11023     Please post only plain text like everyone else does.
11024 root 1.387 %
11025 root 1.1 ------------ etienne.lorrain@ibm.net
11026     --- hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
11027     --- ide1: reset: success
11028     -----------> I like Linux !
11029 root 1.387 %
11030 root 1.1 > I have experienced people walking up to my console and saying "What
11031     > the hell does that mean" in sheer terror as the machine boots.
11032    
11033     Tell them it's magic, and earn the respect of your colleagues. I always
11034     do.
11035 root 1.387 %
11036 root 1.1 ++ Actually, I'm not at a loss for words. Here's one that's very appropriate:
11037     ++ PLONK.
11038 root 1.387 %
11039 root 1.1 ++ > SSI is *not* HTML.
11040     Re: Subraumfunk
11041    
11042     Ja, ein Handy waere da praktisch. Die hoeheren Gebuehren rechnen sich,
11043     wenn man ueber die Grenzen des Sonnensystems hinaus telefonieren will.
11044    
11045     Die Telekom wuerde da wieder mal erbarmungslos abzocken. Ich kann es
11046     mir schon vorstellen: SunSystem-Tarif, vielleicht auch einen
11047     InnerPlanets-Sondertarif, dann einen LocalGroupWeekend-Specialtarif,
11048     eine Supercluster-Zone und so weiter. Und wenn es auf der Venus
11049     schneit, telefonieren alle fuer die Haelfte.
11050 root 1.387 %
11051 root 1.1 > > Vergiss es. Du wirst nie und nimmer von Armando eine
11052     > > konkrete, verwertbare Antwort bekommen.
11053     >
11054     > Doch, man bekommt von mir sogar sehr viele Antworten.
11055    
11056     Du hast gerade zwei Adjektive weggelassen.
11057 root 1.387 %
11058 root 1.1 ++ Oh yeah. Show me an example of SSI used outside of HTML.
11059     Show me an HTML DTD mentioning SSI directives.
11060 root 1.387 %
11061 root 1.1 Namsuk Kim wrote:
11062     > Is there a way to convert a scalar data to Acii data format?
11063    
11064     I am not familar with ACII. If you mean ASCII, then the question I have is
11065     - is the data in EBCDIC now?
11066    
11067     Bill Jones
11068 root 1.387 %
11069 root 1.1 GNU/getopt.c:
11070    
11071     #if defined (WIN32) && !defined (__CYGWIN32__)
11072     /* It's not Unix, really. See? Capital letters. */
11073     #include <windows.h>
11074     #define getpid() GetCurrentProcessId()
11075     #endif
11076 root 1.387 %
11077 root 1.1 Subject: IIS 4.0, PW32i316, CGI Programs
11078    
11079     Perlis.dll does not pass command line arguments correctly via the web. That
11080     is, invoking the URL
11081    
11082     http://www.myserver.com/myprogram.pl?Argument1&Argument2...&Argumentn
11083    
11084     causes the myprogram.pl to execute, but @ARGV is empty.
11085 root 1.387 %
11086 root 1.1 "You need to use CGI."
11087     "I am using CGI, it's a CGI application!"
11088     "No, no, *use* CGI. The directive 'use'."
11089     "OK, so what directive do I use?"
11090     "No, no, you *use* *use*. Use CGI."
11091     "I *am* using CGI!"
11092    
11093     Craig Berry - cberry@cinenet.net
11094 root 1.387 %
11095 root 1.1 > > Was haltet Ihr von Killfile-mailing-lists, dass sich die Leute mal
11096     > > kennenlernen koennen?
11097     >
11098 root 1.388 > Gute Idee ;-), wäre ich sofort dabei, datrifft man wahrscheinlich ne
11099 root 1.1 > Menge tolle Leute... ;-) und die wahren Freidenker.
11100    
11101     Einige Freidenker sicher, aber auch etliche Denkfreie.
11102 root 1.387 %
11103 root 1.1 "I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big or
11104     professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones." -- Linus Torvalds 1991
11105 root 1.387 %
11106 root 1.1 If it's a floppy, it might be a copy.
11107     If it's a disk, you're also at risk.
11108     If it's a pirate, the vendors are irate.
11109     To avoid such frustration, try: Free Software Foundation.
11110 root 1.387 %
11111 root 1.1 From: David Woodhouse <Dave@imladris.demon.co.uk>
11112    
11113     pcg@goof.com said:
11114     > It was much more than I usally get! It was _great_
11115    
11116     Hehe - I know the feeling.
11117    
11118     "It's broken."
11119     "What's wrong with it?."
11120     "I don't know - it just doesn't work."
11121     "Well what do you mean by 'it's broken'?"
11122     "It just doesn't work."
11123     "How can you _tell_ it's broken, for f***'s sake - what are the symptoms!?"
11124     "It gives an error message."
11125     "Would you care to tell me what it says?"
11126     "It says.... something about there being an error."
11127     "That's not very helpful. Tell me it word for word."
11128     "It says 'Unable to handle kernel NULL reference at something or other'"
11129     "That's not word for word. It said 'NULL pointer dereference.' Try again,
11130     letter for letter this time."
11131 root 1.387 %
11132 root 1.1 From: "Paul B. Henson" <henson@INTRANET.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
11133    
11134     After installing Solaris 2.6 HW3/98, I discovered that /usr/bin/admintool
11135     had been installed mode 0777, world writable. Under the original release of
11136     2.6, the mode was 04555.
11137    
11138     Sun has been notified of the problem. If you're running 2.6 HW3/98, you
11139     might want to verify your admintool hasn't been tampered with and fix the
11140     perms.
11141    
11142     (Personally, I'd set them to 0000 ;). admintool? blech.)
11143 root 1.387 %
11144 root 1.1 From: verah@netscape.com (Vera Horiuchi)
11145     Subject: Re: Risp: drama (Re: Do It Yourself)
11146    
11147     Americans ignorant of the rest of the world?
11148    
11149     I must tell a favorite story here. A friend and I were purchasing a gift
11150     for another friend who lives in Canada. I was speculating out loud about
11151     how much duty our Canadian friend would have to pay.
11152    
11153     The cashier said, "Oh, I'm sure Canadians don't have to pay any duty. We
11154     ship to Hawaii all the time, and _they_ don't have to pay duty." =:-0
11155 root 1.387 %
11156 root 1.388 >am besten ist z.Z. das Buch von Michael Neufeld. Wer aber Wissenslücken
11157     >verspürt (was keine Schande ist), sollte diese zu stopfen suchen und nicht
11158 root 1.1 >Zuflucht zu absolut hirnrissigen Theorien suchen.
11159    
11160     Hirnrissig bist Du. Das es einen Zeittransfer aus der Zukunft zu den Nazis
11161     gab deckt sich mit dazu passenden Entschluesselungen bestimmter Bibelstellen
11162     und mit der dann tatsaechlichen notwendigen Geheimhaltung. Es deckt sich
11163     ueberdies damit, dass die Unterhaltung uns den Gedanken zunehmend nahelegt,
11164     also vorbereitet, und dass es bereits ein wissenschaftliches Experiment gab,
11165     bei dem ERST die Wirkung auftrat und DANN die Ursache. Die Zeitreise ist
11166     also Fakt. Und es ist sicher, dass Jemand per Zeitreise den Nazis helfen
11167     wollte. Gelegentliche Theorien, dass auch diese ausserirdische Hilfe gehabt
11168     haetten sollen nur davon ablenken, eine andere Erklaerung liefern. Das ist
11169     logisch, denn die Taeter sitzen ja irgendwo in unserer Zeit und moechten
11170     sicher nicht erkannt werden.
11171    
11172     Du scheinst die simpelsten Grundzuege der Zeitlogik nicht verstehen zu wollen.
11173    
11174     normarz@aol.com
11175 root 1.387 %
11176 root 1.1 >Oder anders gesagt:
11177 root 1.388 >Glaubst Du, Du könntest mit einem hochmodernen Maschinengewehr eine römische
11178 root 1.1 >Legion
11179     >schlagen?
11180    
11181     Klar. Frage mal Cortez.
11182    
11183     Bye
11184     Andreas
11185 root 1.387 %
11186 root 1.1 >Article 2B is a threat to anyone who uses a computer. I just wanted to
11187    
11188     It may be a threat to any american using a computer. Fortunately, the U.S.
11189     justice does not yet apply outside the U.S.A.
11190    
11191     I.a.W.: You're currently creating a lot of happy non-U.S. software
11192     companies.
11193    
11194     Kind regards
11195     Henning
11196 root 1.387 %
11197 root 1.1 From: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>
11198     Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:14:11 -0700
11199     Subject: Re: driver for Creative Labs DVD kits
11200    
11201     At least with the IDE DVD drive that I have, plugging it directly
11202     into an IDE port and using the regular Linux ide-cd driver works just fine
11203     for reading [...] CD and the [not] copy protected sections of the DVD's.
11204    
11205     There is a protocol that the hardware decoder boards use to
11206     tell the DVD drive that they are a licensed implementation and should
11207     be allowed to read the copy protected sectors as well. I have been
11208     told that this protocol can be done entirely in software with a
11209     standard IDE port. Hopefully, somebody will reverse engineer this and
11210     make it a demand loaded kernel module. (Seriously, there is a lot
11211     that you are allowed to do with copyrighted material that this sort of
11212     hardware restriction prevents, and there are other important political
11213     issues involved relating to your rights to do as you please with the
11214     computer equipment that you bought and paid for.)
11215 root 1.387 %
11216 root 1.1 Where do you want to go today?
11217     We might support that sometime next year.
11218     -=- Microsoft
11219     (But I doubt it.)
11220     -=- Me
11221     -=- James Mastros
11222 root 1.387 %
11223 root 1.1 Hello570 <hello570@aol.com> wrote:
11224     > I tried printing a line to a file using both of the
11225     > following methods, but the output was split into two
11226     >lines.
11227    
11228     If you don't want newlines in the middle of your string, then don't
11229     put newlines in the middle of your string.
11230 root 1.387 %
11231 root 1.1 http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/Dean_Roehrich/subjects.post
11232 root 1.387 %
11233 root 1.1 Einstein himself said that God doesn't roll dice. But he was wrong. And
11234     in fact, anyone who has played role-playing games knows that God
11235     probably had to roll quite a few dice to come up with a character like
11236     Einstein. -- Larry Wall
11237 root 1.387 %
11238 root 1.1 From: Ragnar Hojland Espinosa <root@lightside.ddns.org>
11239    
11240     My $0.02 Euros on internationalization? I'm in Spain and my keyboard is
11241     mosty US mapped because the Spanish map is really awkward for programming.
11242     Computers were designed to be funcional, not politically (or locally)
11243     correct (hm, I don't think HAL ever spoke Russian). This "computers are easy
11244     for all" GUI related trend has done a lot of money, and lot of damage; at
11245     least command line OSes forced the user to actually learn something and
11246     absorb information. The user assumed so, so he did. Now he doesn't, and
11247     it's not all his fault.
11248    
11249     The WWW is full of useless (and ugly) graphics, of useless links to links to
11250     pages with links to links which usually end up in a huge links page. Of
11251     course, there are some jewels.. but they should be majority! It's
11252     understandable, when the tools and languages focus more on aspect that in
11253     content.
11254    
11255     Usenet is worse than ever, the interesting places have been ruined by
11256     spammers, c00l hak3rz, and more and more people asking (or demanding) for
11257     others doing their homework.. at least some time ago they were willing to
11258     learn (or pay for it;)
11259    
11260     IRC.. heh. The few times I've been on funet almost all I found is the same
11261     people in the above paragraph. And I do know some of them even run scripts
11262     to try denial of service or other destructive attacks on people they see,
11263     just for fun or to get the op.
11264    
11265     Email. Someone selling an "incredible program that allows you to bypass
11266     your ISP mail server, for only $89" (thats right, a smtp server). No OS
11267     mentioned, I somehow can guess which. And that stupid thing of sending
11268     mail to people in RTF and HTML format.. I'm gonna answer them in LaTeX.
11269    
11270     Internet, your ilimited junk yard.
11271    
11272     Using computers would make me real sad if it wasn't for UNIX and, of
11273     course, Linux and Linux people.
11274 root 1.387 %
11275 root 1.1 ... WNT == ++VMS . Literally. Dave Cutler created VMS,
11276     then he rewrote it as WNT.
11277    
11278     Ever used VMS? It's a step above DOS. Barely.
11279     --
11280     Clark O. Morgan cmorgan@aracnet.com
11281 root 1.387 %
11282 root 1.1 >Subject: If "=~" means match what is doesn't match?
11283    
11284     I heard that a friend of a friend might have once been told about a
11285     rumor that this information can be found in perlop, right next to
11286     where =~ is documented. (It's !~)
11287    
11288     I agree with Tom's assessment that the fall of modern man will be
11289     preceded by the de-evolution of communications to the days of oral
11290     tradition.
11291 root 1.387 %
11292 root 1.1 "Windows 95, the most installed system in the world,
11293     I know, I've done it 5 or 6 times myself"
11294 root 1.387 %
11295 root 1.1 The statistics programming language S, from AT&T, combines lazy
11296     evaluation with imperative programming. A nightmare.
11297 root 1.387 %
11298 root 1.1 "In 1965, as part of a research and development project for the
11299     U.S. Army, engineers at TRW Corp developed a software program
11300     called Generalized Information Retrieval Lanaguage and System."
11301     Or GIRLS for short.
11302 root 1.387 %
11303 root 1.1 Wissen bremst die Meinungsbildung voll aus.
11304 root 1.387 %
11305 root 1.1 I have an idea: Anybody who posts an URGENT! or EMERGENCY! request should
11306     post the circumstances behind the urgency. "I was having sex with my
11307     mistress in the server room and I knocked the Linux box over and the hard
11308     drive crashed and so I've reinstalled everything but I still can't get
11309     5_004_03 to build!"
11310    
11311     This would inspire me to action far more than the implied subtext of "I
11312     have no patience."
11313    
11314     xoxo,
11315     Andy
11316 root 1.387 %
11317 root 1.1 > I have Perl5 running on my pc.
11318     > and also front page98 and microsoft personal web server runnig.
11319     We all have our cross to bear.
11320 root 1.387 %
11321 root 1.1 (THIS IS LONG, YOU MAY WANT TO SKIP)
11322    
11323     From: mjd@plover.com (Mark-Jason Dominus)
11324     Date: 09 Nov 1995 02:57:30 GMT
11325     Subject: Re: system() question
11326    
11327     There are a lot of reasons, many of which get repeated over and
11328     over again, many of which don't. Some of the reasons you hear a lot
11329     are: Questions are incoherently phrased. Questions have the form 'My
11330     code doesn't work' and don't include the code. Questions include the
11331     code, and it's 200 lines long, and comp.lang.perl is not a debugging
11332     service. Nobody knows the answer to the question. The question is so
11333     badly punctuated that nobody can bear to read it. Questions aer
11334     written by a non-native speaker of English and the native speakers who
11335     are trying to understand it can't. (That's a shame, but it does
11336     happen. I often wish that these people would post in their native
11337     languages. I'd love to see more discussion in languages other than
11338     English. Some Dutch guy tried posting all his comp.lang.c articles in
11339     Dutch a few years ago, and all the Americans flamed him. How
11340     humiliating for me!)
11341    
11342     Apart from these oft-mentioned reasons are many others that are
11343     not so often discussed, because anyone who tries to bring them up gets
11344     flamed. But it's the truth: I know the reason I don't answer more
11345     questions is because so many of them questions are so damn stupid.
11346     They're stupid in a lot of different ways, but they're still stupid.
11347     I don't want to suggest that that's why your questions go unanswered.
11348     I don't know what you're asking. No doubt the reason your questions
11349     go unanswered is because they're so deep and interesting that nobody
11350     really knows the answer.
11351    
11352     The most common stupid question is the one from someone who has
11353     some high-level problem that they need solved. They have an idea that
11354     they'd like to do it in perl, and they don't really know perl. So
11355     instead of learning perl, they post to comp.lang.perl.misc.
11356    
11357     Now don't get me wrong. I don't have any problems answering the
11358     questions of someone who's trying to learn perl. I love THOSE
11359     qusetions. But these people don't seem to be asking useful questions
11360     for that.
11361    
11362     Today, for example, I saw a question from a guy who wants to get a
11363     list of hostnames out of nslookup. `How do I do that?' he says. And
11364     it's hard to know what to make of that. What does he mean? Does he
11365     not know how to open a pipe? Is his en' command failing? What's
11366     going on here? I can't give a useful answer without understanding the
11367     problem. Having your en' fail is a problem. Wanting to list
11368     hostnames is not a problem; it's a desire.
11369    
11370     Here are some similar questions that would have made more sense to me:
11371    
11372     1. `I'm a lazy asshole and I can't be bothered to learn to
11373     program myself, but I know if I post here you'll give me
11374     something for free.''
11375    
11376     (OK, fair enough. At least I can send him a rate card.)
11377    
11378     2. `I'm trying to use en' to talk to nslookup, but...
11379     ...here's my code; what's wrong?''
11380    
11381     (Good question.)
11382    
11383     3. `I know perl has a `System' command for running programs,
11384     but I can't see how to get my commands into nslookup
11385     once I have run it.''
11386     (Good question.)
11387    
11388     4. `I'm trying to use `Getprotobynumber' to talk to nslookup...''
11389    
11390     (Good question.)
11391    
11392     See, I'm not just biting people's heads off, here. #4 is a good
11393     question, because it gives me something to work with. OK, he has a
11394     very weird idea about interprocess communication, but that's
11395     ignorance, and that's what we're here to correct. He doesn't know
11396     about en'; I can refer him to the manual.
11397    
11398     Here's another example: Some guy wants to assemble a list of email
11399     addresses . `How do I do that?'' he wants to know. Well, duh. Get a
11400     big pad of paper and read news for a couple days and write down all
11401     the addresses you see. Problem solved. What's it doing in
11402     comp.lang.perl?
11403     Oh, you wanted to do it in perl. Well, I guess I'd open a socket
11404     to the NNTP server and send it some XHDR commands for the `From'
11405     lines. But that's not Perl; you could do that in any language. I
11406     could do it in Bourne Shell for you if I'm allowed to use a little
11407     external thingie to handle the socket parts for me. What's it doing
11408     in comp.lang.perl?
11409    
11410     Oh, you wanted us to write the program for you? Wait, let me send
11411     you my rate card.
11412    
11413     Someone posted yesterday asking how to get the data from a file where
11414     the start and end of the data is marked by keywords. Same thing going on
11415     here. `Well, here's how you solve your problem: First you go take an
11416     introductory class in programming and learn to write programs in some
11417     language. Then you go to the bookstore and buy this book by Wall and
11418     Schwartz, it's really good. Read the book carefully and try out the
11419     examples. Then if you still have general questions like `How do I do this'
11420     instead of thought that this code would do X but instead it does Y' you hire
11421     a professional to write your program for you. Or you could just skip right
11422     to step 3. Want my rate card?''
11423    
11424     The worst stupid questions are the ones that come from people who
11425     have no business asking them. The most perfect example of this that I
11426     could have imagined was in comp.unix.questions a couple of years ago.
11427     Some guy came and asked how you could tell if a file is a hard link.
11428     My jaw flapped open and it's stayed open since then. I couldn't have
11429     been any more stumped if he'd asked why Bodhidharma came from the
11430     West. What do you say to this guy? Do you tell him the truth, that
11431     all files are hard links, that even symbolic links are hard links?
11432     He's not going to understand you; you might as well keep your mouth
11433     shut. Do you tell him the truth, that the answer won't do him any
11434     good because he doesn't know what a hard link is, so why did he bother
11435     asking in the first place? No, that'll just make him mad. I followed
11436     that message for the next couple weeks, and nobody said anything.
11437     What could you say? The guy had no business asking the question and
11438     no use for the answer. Maybe the right answer would have been to cut
11439     off his finger or something. I dunno.
11440    
11441     Some questions get ignored because they're boring. Someone asked
11442     today how to compare two variables (I assumme he means the contents of
11443     those variables) to see if they're exactly the same. You've gotta be
11444     in an awfully good mood to take the time to answer that. Maybe
11445     someone will. Maybe I will.
11446    
11447     If I answer that one today, maybe he'll be back tomorrow asking
11448     how to check to see if two variables contain different values. Maybe
11449     I won't. What I find incredible is that if you tell these people to
11450     go read the manual and come back in two weeks, you sometimes get
11451     jumped on for not being helpful to beginners. Bah. If everyone told
11452     these people to go read the manual, they'd eventually figure out that
11453     that's what you have to do ,and then I wouldn't have to spend so much
11454     of my life dealing with incompetent programmers.
11455    
11456     Some questions are logically nonsensical because the querent
11457     thinks they know more than they do. A lot of these have the form
11458     `How do I use X to accomplish Y?'' There's nothing wrong with this,
11459     except that sometimes X is a chocolate-covered banana and Y is the
11460     integration of European currency systems. I always get stuck on
11461     these, probably because I can't get rid of the idea that the person
11462     really has a good reason for wanting to use X. I know a half-dozen
11463     easy simple ways to accomplish Y, but I can't imagine what X has to do
11464     with it. This is a problem for me in my day job, too. Clients are
11465     always saying to me `We want to use product X to do multimedia
11466     development on the world-wide web,'' and all I can think is `Well,
11467     gee, what would you want to go and do that for?'' Sometimes it turns
11468     out that they want to do it because they want to impress the
11469     manufacturers of X, and I don't work on those jobs.
11470    
11471     The flip side of this is a questions like `I want to accomplish
11472     X, but I don't want to use Y. What can I use instead?'' Which,
11473     again, is sometimes reasonable, and then sometimes X is closing a
11474     filehandle and Y is the `Close' function.
11475    
11476     The questions I like the best are the ones that go like this:
11477    
11478     `I want to accomplish X.
11479    
11480     I thought that the following code fragment would do it:
11481    
11482     ...
11483    
11484     But instead it does Y.
11485    
11486     Why is that?''
11487    
11488     This one is also pretty good:
11489    
11490     `I want to accomplish X.
11491     I thought I might be able to use facility Y.
11492    
11493     But Y doesn't seem like it's quite right,
11494     because of Z.
11495    
11496     What should I use instead of Y, or how can I overcome Z?''
11497    
11498     When I ignore these, it's usually because I don't know the answer.
11499     There were an awful lot of them today. It makes me very happy.
11500    
11501    
11502     There you go; a 160-line dissertation on why questions go unanswered.
11503     Now don't let me hear you saying nobody ever answers your questions.
11504    
11505     --
11506     Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
11507     The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
11508 root 1.387 %
11509 root 1.1 >> BTW, would it be easier to cope with international text using Python?
11510     >Sigh... you're breaking my heart. Ask Jack Jansen, he probably knows.
11511    
11512     If I were really evel, I would point out that the newest TCL (8.1) has
11513     support for international character sets and Unicode. But then, mentioning
11514     TCL in this newsfroup would be really bad. So, of course, I don't do that.
11515    
11516     Ups. I'm so sorry ... ;-)
11517    
11518     bye, Georg
11519 root 1.387 %
11520 root 1.1 I personally do not believe in object orientation as a security model
11521     (nor as a general programming paradigm), but feel free to try to
11522     convince me.
11523    
11524     [ Or maybe I confuse you with somebody else and some other posting ]
11525    
11526     Linus
11527 root 1.387 %
11528 root 1.1 ++ how can i strip new lines out at var.
11529     ++
11530    
11531     Removing new lines is very tricky, as the manual tells you so. Ignore the
11532     complicated things in the manual, and put in this neat little trick:
11533    
11534 root 1.85 $var=join+q,,,grep{ord$[[qq$\137$]]<10 or+10<ord}split+q,,,$var;
11535 root 1.1
11536     If you're old enough not to read the manual, you won't have a problem
11537     understanding the above line.
11538    
11539     Abigail
11540 root 1.387 %
11541 root 1.1 I fixed the problem by mounting the SCO volume on the SunOS box, and since
11542     1995 the problem has gone away together with the SCO machine.
11543 root 1.387 %
11544 root 1.1 ++ Hi Does anybody know how to upload many graphic files at the push of a
11545     ++ button?
11546     Yes.
11547    
11548     ++ 100 pictures or so?
11549     Yes.
11550    
11551     ++ Can I do it in Perl?
11552     Yes.
11553    
11554     Your question isn't Perl specific. Please ask in the relevant
11555     newsgroup. alt.button.play
11556    
11557     Abigail
11558 root 1.387 %
11559 root 1.1 perly gates - The way to perl; Enter hackerdom.
11560    
11561     perly Gates - Contradictio in Terminis.
11562    
11563     Martien
11564 root 1.387 %
11565 root 1.388 Ren hat weder von Sinnhaftigkeit noch von Kausalität geschrieben, sondern
11566     nur von Logik. Logik und Kausalität sind in unserem (normalen) Denken zwar
11567     eng miteinander verknüpft, sind aber nicht dasselbe. Sinn ist hingegen noch
11568     etwas Drittes und ganz verschiedenes! "Sinn" bedeutet mindestens, daß eine
11569 root 1.1 Sache eine gewisse Richtung hat, wie in "Uhrzeigersinn". Meistens bedeutet
11570 root 1.388 Sinn aber, daß eine Sache einen bestimmten Zweck erfüllt. Auch darf man
11571     nicht "verursachen" mit "begründen" verwechseln, weil die beiden
11572     unterschiedlich sind. Die Existenz muß auch keinen Sinn haben, um eine
11573     Ursache zu haben. Das sind zwei völlig voneinander unabhängige Sachen. Die
11574 root 1.1 Existenz hat einen Sinn, also eine Richtung, wenn wir unserer Existenz eine
11575 root 1.388 Richtung geben. Dieser Sinn kann auf etwas abzielen, was außerhalb unserer
11576     selbst steht, muß aber nicht... Sie kann auch einen Sinn haben, der schon da
11577 root 1.1 war, bevor wir uns danach ausgerichtet haben - von all dem schreibt Ren aber
11578     nicht. ;)
11579    
11580 root 1.388 Worauf Ren wohl hinaus wollte, ist, daß wenn die Logik des begrenzten Raumes
11581     nicht gilt, daß dann die Logik schlechthin hinfällig wird und so jedes Sein
11582     fragwürdig wird. Das ist aber nicht der Fall, da die Logik, die er von den
11583 root 1.1 Grenzen des Raumes aufstellt, gar keine wirkliche Logik ist, sondern nur die
11584     Grenzen des menschlichen Verstandes zeigt. Er kann sich nicht vorstellen,
11585 root 1.388 daß außerhalb der Grenzen des Raumes "Nichts" ist, weil man sich als Mensch
11586 root 1.1 das Nichts nicht vorstellen kann.
11587    
11588 root 1.388 Darüber hinaus meinte er, daß die "Existenz unlogisch" würde. Dieser Satz
11589     ist vollkommen unverständlich. Denn entweder ist etwas, oder es ist nicht.
11590 root 1.1 Das ist auch schon die ganze Logik einer Existenz. (Aristoteles: Satz vom
11591 root 1.388 ausgeschlossenen Dritten) Unlogisch wäre, wenn etwas ist, das nicht ist oder
11592 root 1.1 wenn etwas nicht ist, das ist.
11593    
11594 root 1.388 Von der Unfähigkeit des Menschen, sich einen unbegrenzten aber endlichen
11595 root 1.1 Raum (oder wie auch immer der Weltraum nun aussieht) vorzustellen auf die
11596 root 1.388 "Unlogik der Existenz" zu schließen, ist aber wohl nicht ganz möglich, zumal
11597     eine Existenz nicht unlogisch sein kann. Was sollte das auch heißen? Daher
11598 root 1.1 ist das Problem, das Ren aufwirft, nur ein Scheinproblem. Die Existenz an
11599 root 1.388 sich wird nicht in Frage gestellt dadurch, daß man sich etwas - egal was -
11600 root 1.1 nicht vorstellen kann. Er verwechselt die Begriffe "unlogisch" und
11601     "unvorstellbar".
11602    
11603     Thomas.Decker@lrz.uni-muenchen.de
11604 root 1.387 %
11605 root 1.1 Marcel Richter wrote:
11606     > Marcel Richter - IQ: 3538327
11607     ^^^
11608     fehlt da nicht irgendwo ein Komma.... =?-)
11609 root 1.387 %
11610 root 1.1 The X server has to be the biggest program I've ever seen that doesn't
11611     do anything for you. --Ken Thompson
11612 root 1.387 %
11613 root 1.1 linux-2.1.92/fs/autofs/root.c:
11614     printk("autofs: trying to recover, but prepare for Armageddon\n");
11615 root 1.387 %
11616 root 1.1 >>Vincent DiPietro, the discoverer of the face on mars, has thrown in
11617     >>the towel, and said that the face on mars is a pile of rocks.
11618     >Was sollte es denn sonst sein?
11619    
11620     An artificial pile of rocks.
11621 root 1.387 %
11622 root 1.1 > ps: mal nebenbei: eine unbekannte variable beim analysieren des
11623     > marsgesichtes ist es, dass mensch gar nicht weiss, wie die lebende,
11624     > gedachte oder sonstige vorlage eigentlich aussieht. dazu kommt natuerlich
11625     > noch das fehlende wissen um die intention des "kuenstlers", ob er
11626     > beispielsweise nur aspekte bzw. partien eines gesichtes integrieren wollte
11627     > - und natuerlich, ob es ueberhaupt kunst ist:)
11628    
11629     Ganz genau. Und das Matterhorn ist eine palaeoimpressionistische Studie des
11630     Geruchsorgans der Rasse der Ciabattanimalier. Aber das wussten hier
11631     sicherlich schon alle. Das ganze Universum ist ausserdem eigentlich nur ein
11632     grosser Flipperautomat.
11633    
11634     Christoph Schulte Moenting - ubec@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
11635 root 1.387 %
11636 root 1.1 > Kris Weilemann schrieb
11637     >
11638     > >MIR ging es neulich aehnlich. Ich wurde von Ausserirdischen entfuehrt.
11639     > >Ich wurde eingesperrt in einem dunklem Raum mit langen Sitzreihen und mit
11640     > >einer Popcorn-artigen Substanz gefuettert. Nach 2 Stunden war alles
11641     > >vorbei. Einen Tag spaeter stellte ich fest, dass mir 18 Mark im
11642     > >Geldbeutel fehlten. Ist das nicht krass? -Kris.
11643 root 1.387 %
11644 root 1.388 ... Jazz ist nicht nur das erfolgreichste, sondern auch das einzige originäre Kunstgenre,
11645     daß die USA jemals hervorgebracht haben.
11646 root 1.1
11647     "Apropos Musik", HR2 am 16.4.98
11648 root 1.387 %
11649 root 1.1 http://www.rsw.com/
11650    
11651     The Unix shell as a 4GL
11652    
11653     Unix provides hundreds of programs that can be piped together to easily
11654     perform almost any function imaginable. Nothing comes close to providing the
11655     functions that come standard with Unix. Programs and philosophies carried
11656     over from other systems put walls between the user and Unix, and the power
11657     of Unix is thrown away. The shell, extended with a few relational operators,
11658     is the fourth generation database scripting language most appropriate to the
11659     Unix environment.
11660 root 1.387 %
11661 root 1.1 Perl is incredibly difficult to parse. For example, what's the difference
11662     between these:
11663    
11664     time /3 ;#/; print "hello";
11665     sin /3 ;#/; print "goodbye";
11666    
11667     Right. The first one is time divided by 3, and the print is in a comment.
11668     The second one is the sin of the result of a regular expression match for "3
11669     ;#", and the print gets executed!
11670    
11671     There's no pure BNF in the world that'll handle that. And remember, with
11672     "use" and prototypes available, whether you parse something like "sin" or
11673     "time" depends on its definition in some other file, somewhere in the galaxy
11674     (or even decided by Perl code in a BEGIN block, that evals a prototype!).
11675    
11676     Which led Larry to say at one point: "the only thing that can parse Perl is
11677     'perl'".
11678    
11679     --
11680     Randal L. Schwartz
11681 root 1.387 %
11682 root 1.1 Ronald J Kimball <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu> writes:
11683    
11684     > Pascal AMRAM wrote:
11685     > > Subject: MSEXCHANGE / OUTLOOK
11686     >
11687     > So here I am trying to figure out what an M sex change is....
11688    
11689     It's obviously the opposite of an F sex change. HTH.
11690    
11691     --
11692     Jonathan Feinberg jdf@pobox.com Sunny Brooklyn, NY
11693 root 1.387 %
11694 root 1.1 The management (my cats) made me say this.
11695 root 1.387 %
11696 root 1.1 uae-0.6.9/custom.c:800:
11697     write_log ("Program is torturing BPLCON1.\n");
11698 root 1.387 %
11699 root 1.1 uae-0.6.9/src/memory.c:363
11700     write_log ("Your Amiga program just did something terribly stupid\n");
11701 root 1.387 %
11702 root 1.1 Closures make sense in any programming language where you
11703     can have the return value of a function be itself a
11704     function, as you can in Perl. Note that some languages
11705     provide anonymous functions but are not capable of
11706     providing proper closures; the Python language, for
11707     example.
11708 root 1.387 %
11709 root 1.1 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to
11710     resemble a nail.
11711 root 1.387 %
11712 root 1.1 > but all I get are 501 errors, method not supported. I am not 100% sure what
11713     > I did wrong.
11714    
11715     What you did wrong was post a microsoft server question to a perl
11716     newsgroup.
11717 root 1.387 %
11718 root 1.1 I am trying to learn Perl on my Windows 97 system. In particular...
11719 root 1.387 %
11720 root 1.388 >Es kamen Außerirdische, die Pyramiden bauten und andere Wunder
11721     >vollbrachten. Dafür wurden sie vergöttert. Diese außerirdischen bauten dann
11722 root 1.1 >wahrscheinlich auch die Cydonia Region.
11723    
11724     Etwa zehnmal zu oft 'Stargate' gesehen, was?
11725 root 1.387 %
11726 root 1.388 >Die Menschheit kämpft seit Millionen von Jahren gegeneinander.
11727 root 1.1
11728 root 1.388 Welche Hälfte ist denn da die grössere? :o)
11729 root 1.387 %
11730 root 1.1 ...am still rebuilding after being hit with a clock changing virus it reset
11731     my clock to 2039 unfortunately for me my OS is beta 98 needless to say it
11732     expired instantly!!!
11733 root 1.387 %
11734 root 1.1 From: Per Bothner <bothner@cygnus.com>
11735     To: Pal Engstad <engstad@hunt.inmet.com>
11736    
11737     > Linus Torvalds requires that all code in the source is using a tab
11738     > length of 8 spaces, and he also states that you are a bad programmer
11739     > if you write code with more than 3 indentation levels.
11740    
11741     I didn't know that Linus Torvalds has done research on programming styles.
11742     He much have, since why else would you have the audacity quote him as
11743     an authority, on a list where there are dozens of people with more
11744     than double Linus's programming experience?
11745    
11746     > This has caused the code to be fairly easy to read and maintainance is
11747     > pretty straight forward.
11748    
11749     Irrelevant - a kernel is a lot simpler than an optimizing compiler,
11750     in terms of complexity of algorithms and data structures.
11751 root 1.387 %
11752 root 1.1 Nach der Diskussion muss ich akzeptieren, dass die juengst erfolgte
11753     Erdbeschleunigung von - 0,6 auf - 0,4 Millisekunden kein zwingender Beweis
11754     fuer einen Permanentantrieb ist. Aber: In letzter Zeit kommt es bei mir immer
11755     wieder vor, dass ich Dinge einfach weiss. Selbst wenn ich sie nicht begruenden
11756     kann. Ich weiss trotzdem dass sie stimmen muessen und der Antrieb existiert.
11757     Mit der Zeit findet sich dann auch die Begruendung.
11758 root 1.387 %
11759 root 1.1 Wir suchen neue AussenMitarbeiterInnen... (S.Pernar@Link-Goe)
11760 root 1.387 %
11761 root 1.1 hyperltext (hy'perl-text), n. double-quotish-interpolated hypertext markup:
11762     Example:
11763     print qq[[<LI><A HREF="$self->[[url]]">@[[[ucfirst $self->[[title]]]]]</A>\n]];
11764 root 1.387 %
11765 root 1.1 liperlsuction: What happens to any script longer than 10 lines once
11766     Randal gets his hands on it
11767 root 1.387 %
11768 root 1.1 Uperl Volta - country where perl programmers control the electricity.
11769 root 1.387 %
11770 root 1.1 > Anybody successfully installed the win32 version of Perl?
11771    
11772     No! Millions of people don't use perl on win32 machines. You may be the
11773     first if you get it working.
11774 root 1.387 %
11775 root 1.1 > Macintosh.
11776     > Think different.
11777    
11778     Think Again.
11779 root 1.387 %
11780 root 1.1 Bill.Cilnton@dyselxia.com
11781 root 1.387 %
11782 root 1.1 tsatan@hotmail.com writes:
11783     > Why does perl have the "push" and "unshift" functions? ...
11784     > push @nums, 4; is the same as @nums = (@nums, 4);
11785    
11786     What do you want, Scheme? ;)
11787 root 1.387 %
11788 root 1.1 # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'.
11789     # It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
11790 root 1.387 %
11791 root 1.1 | I am returning this otherwise good typing paper to you because
11792     | someone has printed gibberish all over it and put your name at the
11793     | top.
11794 root 1.387 %
11795 root 1.1 I had a student ask about the UN9 operating system. I didn't understabd what
11796     he was talking about so he wrote UNIX on the board.
11797 root 1.387 %
11798 root 1.1 On 1 Apr 98 17:34:23 GMT, Schulung7 wrote:
11799     ^^^^^^^^^
11800     >Was haltet ihr vom UFO-Absturz in Rosswell?
11801    
11802     Nichts. Und jetzt geh woanders spielen.
11803 root 1.387 %
11804 root 1.1 >Kann man hier irgendwie mal die UFOs reinbringen, um die es in dieser NG
11805     >gehen soll?
11806    
11807 root 1.388 Nein, der Datentyp wäre inkompatibel. UFOs sind per Definitionem
11808 root 1.1 materielle Objekte (obwohl das zur Zeit fraglich ist ;-), die sich in
11809     diesem Medium nicht austauschen lassen.
11810 root 1.387 %
11811 root 1.1 Wer redet hier denn von der "Hui Hui"? Ich sprach von "Hui! Hui!".
11812 root 1.387 %
11813 root 1.388 >> nein...ist kein Sender. Eine taiwanesische Sekte hat behauptet, daß am
11814     >> 25.3. auf allen TVs der Welt Gott auf Kanal 18 erscheinen würde.
11815 root 1.1 >> Ist natuerlich nicht eingetreten.
11816     >
11817     >Aber unsere Haus-Sat-Anlage geht seither nicht mehr.
11818    
11819     Ein Zeichen! Er hat uns ein Zeichen gegeben! Zieht alle euren linken
11820     Schuh aus!
11821 root 1.387 %
11822 root 1.1 >Klingt nach Erdstillstand.
11823    
11824 root 1.388 Ich bin entsetzt. Man hat hoffentlich sofort Wiederbedrehungsmaßnahmen
11825 root 1.1 eingeleitet?
11826 root 1.387 %
11827 root 1.1 Mars Global Surveyor Imaging Schedule
11828    
11829    
11830     First opportunity
11831     Approximate
11832     Orbit Internet
11833     Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11834    
11835     4-3-98 09:58/1:58 a.m. 216 Viking Lander 1 April 6
11836     4-3-98 21:37/1:37 p.m. 217 Viking Lander 2 April 7
11837     4-4-98 09:16/1:16 a.m. 218 Mars Pathfinder April 7
11838     4-5-98 08:33/12:33 a.m. 220 Cydonia April 6 (mid-a.m.)
11839    
11840     Second opportunity
11841     Approximate
11842     Orbit Internet
11843     Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11844    
11845     4-12-98 15:23/ 8:23 a.m. 235 Viking Lander 1 April 14
11846     4-13-98 03:01/ 8:01 p.m. 236 Viking Lander 2 April 15
11847     4-13-98 14:40/ 7:40 a.m. 237 Mars Pathfinder April 15
11848     4-14-98 13:57/ 6:57 a.m. 239 Cydonia April 14 (mid-p.m.)
11849    
11850     Third opportunity
11851     Approximate
11852     Orbit Internet
11853     Date Time (UTC/Pacific) Number Target Posting
11854    
11855     4-21-98 20:45/1:45 p.m. 254 Viking Lander 1 April 23
11856     4-22-98 08:23/1:23 a.m. 255 Viking Lander 2 April 24
11857     4-22-98 20:02/1:02 p.m. 256 Mars Pathfinder April 24
11858     4-23-98 19:18/12:18 p.m. 258 Cydonia April 24 (mid-a.m.)
11859    
11860 root 1.387 %
11861 root 1.1 > >2. Der Menschheit ist durch Inzucht entstanden. Laut biologischem
11862 root 1.388 > >Wissen, unwahrscheinlich, da Mutation und Mißbildungen auftreten
11863     > >würden.
11864 root 1.1 >
11865     > Vermutung: Das ist auch aufgetreten. Siehe levitische "Gesetze" zur
11866     > "Behandlung" von "Aussatz" insb. im 3. "Mose". Die hatten schon Probleme.
11867     Sag mal, bei Dir piepts wohl nicht mehr richtig! Aussatz, heute besser
11868     unter dem Namen Lepra bekannt, ist keine Erbkrankheit. Es ist eine
11869     (heute heilbare) Infektionskrankheit, verursacht durch Bakterien.
11870     Also nichts von Inzucht, wie Du das in Deinem latenten Rassenwahn
11871     implizierst.
11872 root 1.387 %
11873 root 1.1 > You might please start up with reading more than one sentence - a skill
11874     > quite familiar in Europe, but as it seems not in the USA.
11875 root 1.387 %
11876 root 1.1 Yup. Instead of crashing Xservers, now you have crashing kernels.
11877     Big improvement.
11878 root 1.387 %
11879 root 1.1 -- "Hey look, this new card is for windows and only $xx!"
11880     -- "Yes, but it's braindead and will hurt your performance. Take that one
11881     over there. Besides, it's not an ope.."
11882     -- "Why that one?"
11883     -- "Because it's better, sinc.."
11884     -- "But I can do the same with this one, it's cheaper, and its for windows!"
11885 root 1.387 %
11886 root 1.1 In der Klinik, in der ich mal arbeiten musste, hatten wir einen echten
11887     Koenig Ludwig II und mindestens fuenf Stueck Jesus - sowas gibts halt,
11888     wenn Du verstehst, was ich meine.
11889 root 1.387 %
11890 root 1.1 > Hast Du mal einen Stein beobachtet, der eine Unzahl komplexer
11891     > Vorgaenge paresentiert, einschliesslich der Hervorbringung
11892     > etlicher Lebensformen?
11893    
11894     Jepp. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "zahlreich".
11895    
11896     > Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der sich mal eben
11897     > "verwandelt", und auf dem dann lauter Wesen rumkrabbeln,
11898     > die aus ihm selbst entsprungen sind?
11899    
11900     Klar doch. Ist nur ein Problem mit der Definition von "lauter".
11901    
11902     > Ueberspitzt: Hast Du mal einen Steinen beobachtet, der
11903     > ploetzlich zum Lebewesen wird und Dich fragt, wer oder was
11904     > er eigentlich ist?
11905    
11906 root 1.388 Tja, da hören die Übereinstimmungen auf. Ich dachte Du meinst
11907 root 1.1 Erwin Stein. Den kenne ich. Der hat zwei Kinder. Die krabbeln
11908 root 1.388 ab und zu auf ihm herum. Der ist aber nicht plötzlich zum Le-
11909 root 1.1 bewesen geworden, sondern den gibt es nun schon ein wenig
11910 root 1.388 länger. Und er hat mich auch noch nie gefragt, wer oder was
11911 root 1.1 er eigentlich ist. Zumindest nicht in einem Zustand, den man
11912 root 1.388 als "normal" bezeichnen könnte. So wird das anscheinend nix.
11913 root 1.1 Ciao
11914     Stefan
11915 root 1.387 %
11916 root 1.1 "These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After
11917     unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including
11918     all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer."
11919     (http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/pc99.htm)
11920 root 1.387 %
11921 root 1.1 Video cards have write-only registers. (of course that is bad design) Let's
11922     say that register 13 is write-only, as is common. It holds an index that
11923     determines what register 69 (also write-only) actually changes. If you write
11924     to register 13 while the accelerator is active, you lock the PCI bus. You
11925     can't determine if the accelerator is active without reading from register
11926     42, but you can't interpret the contents of that register correctly without
11927     knowing what the last accelerator command was. Reading from register 13 gets
11928     you some useless (unrelated) info and _also_ toggles the accelerator on and
11929     off.
11930 root 1.387 %
11931 root 1.1 Join the Army,
11932     Meet interesting people,
11933     Kill them.
11934 root 1.387 %
11935 root 1.1 > Wie entsteht Materie? Ich koennte mir vorstellen, dass Energie in Materie
11936     > umwandelbar ist.
11937    
11938     E=m*c^2 (Schon mal gehoert?) (Schon mal verstanden??)
11939 root 1.387 %
11940 root 1.388 >nach der die Pygmäen geheime UFO-Basen in ausgehöhlten Baumstämmen
11941 root 1.1 >unterhalten (Vorsicht: das war ein Witz :-) ).
11942 root 1.387 %
11943 root 1.1 > (Bernhard Nahrgang) wrote:
11944     >
11945     > >> Logische Annahme: Die Erde waechst entweder kontinuierlich, oder periodisch
11946     > >> ruckartig.
11947     > >wie kann jemand mit dem IQ von 130 nur SO SELTEN BLOEDE sein??
11948     >
11949 root 1.388 > Norbert ist nicht selten blöde...
11950 root 1.1
11951     :-)
11952 root 1.387 %
11953 root 1.1 SAT 1 Teletext: Ein Asteroid mit einem Durchmesser von fast einem Kilometer
11954 root 1.388 rast mit großer Geschwindigkeit auf die Erde zu. US-Astronomen befürchten:
11955     "XF11" könnte im Jahr 2028 auf der Erde einschlagen. Die Folgen wären
11956 root 1.1 verheerend. "Der rasende Stein aus dem All ist eine Gefahr", warnt Jack G.
11957     Hills vom US-Kernforschungszentrum Los Alamos: "Wenn er die Erde trifft,
11958     wird er die Sprengkraft von 320.000 Megatonnen Dynamit haben." Das
11959     entspricht dem Zweimillionenfachen der Atombombe...
11960    
11961     ARD/ZDF Teletext: ASTEROID MIT KURS AUF ERDE ENTDECKT Amerikanische
11962     Astronomen haben einen Asteroiden ausgemacht, der in 30 Jahren der Erde
11963 root 1.388 gefährlich nahekommen wird. Die Gefahr, daß der Asteroid einschlagen wird,
11964     sei gering, aber auch nicht völlig auszuschließen. Nach derzeitigen
11965 root 1.1 Berechnungen wird der Asteroid mit der Bezeichnung "1997 XF11" am 26.Oktober
11966 root 1.388 2028 unserem Planeten am nächsten kommen. "1997 XF11" hat etwa einen
11967     Durchmesser von 1,6 Kilometern. Erstmals käme ein Objekt dieser Größe der
11968     Erde so nahe, hieß es in dem Bericht der Internationalen Astronomischen
11969 root 1.1 Union.
11970    
11971 root 1.388 RTL Teletext: Himmelskörper rast auf Erde zu Ein Asteroid wird im Jahr 2028
11972     der Erde gefährlich nahe kommen. Amerikanische Wissenschaftler haben die
11973 root 1.1 Chance eines Zusammenpralls auf eins zu tausend berechnet. Sollte der
11974 root 1.388 Asteroid, der einen Durchmesser von 1,8 Kilometern hat, aufprallen, könnte
11975     er eine gigantische Flutwelle auslösen, so die Forscher. Auch ein genaues
11976     Datum haben die Wissenschaftler schon errechnet: Von Europa aus wäre das
11977 root 1.1 Naturschauspiel am 26. Oktober 2028 zu beobachten.
11978 root 1.387 %
11979 root 1.1 * Linux Viruscan.....
11980     Windows 95 Found Remove it ? (Y/y)
11981 root 1.387 %
11982 root 1.1 >>Hmm, welche Behauptungen entsprechen denn deiner Meinung nach der
11983 root 1.388 >>Realität?
11984 root 1.1 >>
11985     >>Das es das FBI wirklich gibt?
11986 root 1.388 >>Das Scully frigide ist, und deshalb mit Mulder nichts anfangen möchte?
11987     >>Das Mulder homosexuell ist, und deshalb mit Scully nichts anfangen möchte?
11988 root 1.1 >>Das der CSM einen Vertrag mit Marlb*ro hat?
11989     >
11990     >Hinter diesen "Fragen" erkenne ich z.B. eine gut bekannte Strategie. Die
11991     >FBI-Frage ist bewusst absurd. Das Abgleiten ins Sexuelle hat ebenfalls
11992 root 1.387 %
11993 root 1.1 "'You're a Cirrus. You're crap. I'm an S3. I rule. Thank you and please drive through.'"
11994 root 1.387 %
11995 root 1.1 > How could you have perl take a set of numbers (1,2,3,4) and put them
11996     > into a random order???
11997     >
11998    
11999     @array=qw(1 2 3 4);
12000     print "@array[1,3,2,0]\n";
12001    
12002     I've checked this against other possible random orderings
12003     of these numbers, and this ordering is at least as random as
12004     any of the other possible ones. The benefit of this one being
12005     that it begins with the number 2, which is my favorite random
12006     number less than 42.
12007 root 1.387 %
12008 root 1.1 From what I am reading Win98 and NT5.0 will be getting rid of all that
12009     crap anyway. Seems that Microsoft has invented something called TCP/IP and
12010     another really revolutionary concept called DNS that eliminates the
12011     netbios crap too. All that arping from browsers is going to go away.
12012     I also hear rumors that they are on the verge of breakthrough discoveries
12013     called NFS, and LPD too. Given enough time and money, they might
12014     eventually invent Unix.
12015 root 1.387 %
12016 root 1.1 In Germany, where typeface design has always been a significant part of
12017     the cultural heritage, and where typefounding has remained an important
12018     business, there are more than one kind of copyright-like protections for
12019     typefaces. Certain long-standing industrial design protection laws have
12020     been used to protect typeface designs in litigation over royalties and
12021     plagiarisms. Further, there is a recent law, the so-called
12022     "Schriftzeichengesetz" enacted in 1981, that specifically protects
12023     typeface designs. New designs are registered, as is done with
12024     copyright in most countries. This law only protects new, original
12025     designs. It is available to non-German designers and firms. Therefore,
12026     some type firms and designers routinely copyright new designs in West
12027     Germany. This gives a degree of protection for products marketed in
12028     Germany. Since multinational corporations may find it cheaper to
12029     license a design for world-wide use rather than deal with a special case
12030     in one country, the German law does encourage licensing on a broader
12031     scale than would initially seem to be the case.
12032 root 1.387 %
12033 root 1.1 [linux processes vs. nt/solaris threads]
12034     Rob Pike pointed out that the solution to slow process creation is
12035     faster process creation, not another kernel abstraction.
12036 root 1.387 %
12037 root 1.1 Does anybody know how to communicate between a PC and a modem,
12038     using a Perl CGI script?
12039 root 1.387 %
12040 root 1.1 >I really don't know crap about PERL. How is it different from JAVA?
12041    
12042     One tiny difference: Java can crash your browser. It happened to me last
12043     week.
12044 root 1.387 %
12045 root 1.1 Brieweb> I heard Randal Schwartz say he could write an entire httpd server in 90 lines
12046     Brieweb> of PERL.
12047     No, that's an http *proxy* server. A simple web server is much shorter.
12048     From "perldoc HTTP::Daemon"...
12049     [Randal Schwartz]
12050 root 1.387 %
12051 root 1.1 But the possibility of abuse may be a good reason for leaving
12052     capabilities out of other computer languages, it's not a good reason
12053     for leaving capabilities out of Perl.
12054     [Larry Wall in `Macros'. [[perl5-porters]]]
12055 root 1.387 %
12056 root 1.1 Yes: Java's main advantage over Perl is that it's hard to use for casual
12057     programmers, so keeps all but the most intrepid programmers away from it.
12058     It has no decent support for string processing, allowing you to spend
12059     hours at useless debugging. It has a very restrictive and static system
12060     to make sure you don't try anything interesting. It makes sure that you
12061     use objects, by golly, because James Gosling said so. It's easy for C++
12062     programmers to use, and hard for shell or BASIC programmers to use. It
12063     also only runs on a few systems, locking its customers into a a closed
12064     system and restricting their options.
12065     [Tom Christiansen in `Java Vs. Perl']
12066 root 1.387 %
12067 root 1.1 <Bill_Gates> Where do you want to go today?
12068     <Phase_5> Where do go tomorrow?
12069     <BlueFlux> Where were you yesterday?!?!
12070 root 1.387 %
12071 root 1.1 "It's not to control, but to protect the citizens of Singapore. In our
12072     society, you can state your views, but they have to be correct."
12073     Ernie Hai
12074     Coordinator of Singapore Government Internet Project
12075 root 1.387 %
12076 root 1.1 : I very much prefer a useful error message than a "it produced the wrong
12077     : results" report from the users.
12078    
12079     if i got even "it produced the wrong results" from our users, i would
12080     be in 7th heaven. ours often mail us with such insightful requests as
12081     "can you tell me my email address?" no, sorry, that should be "CAN U
12082     TEL ME MY E MAIL ADRES DUDE?!!!?? HURRY!!!"
12083 root 1.387 %
12084 root 1.1 There are many intelligent species in the Universe.
12085     They are all owned by cats.
12086 root 1.387 %
12087 root 1.1 Why dignify your unsustainable, unjustifiable, unprovable feeble
12088     attempts at character assassination with anything resembling a reply?
12089     You only make yourself look foolish by mouthing off like that.
12090 root 1.387 %
12091 root 1.1 From: L & K Olson <kolson@mbnet.mb.ca>
12092     Subject: If they wrote error messages in haiku ...
12093    
12094     Yesterday it worked
12095     Today it is not working
12096     Windows is like that
12097     - - -
12098     wind catches lily
12099     scatt'ring petals to the wind:
12100     segmentation fault
12101     - - -
12102     Three things are certain:
12103     Death, taxes, and lost data.
12104     Guess which has occurred.
12105     - - -
12106     A file that big?
12107     It might be very useful.
12108     But now it is gone.
12109     - - -
12110     Windows NT crashed.
12111     I am the Blue Screen of Death.
12112     No one hears your screams.
12113     - - -
12114     Errors have occurred.
12115     We won't tell you where or why.
12116     Lazy programmers.
12117     - - -
12118     Seeing my great fault
12119     Through darkening blue windows
12120     I begin again
12121     - - -
12122     The code was willing,
12123     It considered your request,
12124     But the chips were weak.
12125     - - -
12126     Printer not ready.
12127     Could be a fatal error.
12128     Have a pen handy?
12129     - - -
12130     Server's poor response
12131     Not quick enough for browser.
12132     Timed out, plum blossom.
12133     - - -
12134     Chaos reigns within.
12135     Reflect, repent, and reboot.
12136     Order shall return.
12137     - - -
12138     Login incorrect.
12139     Only perfect spellers may
12140     enter this system.
12141     - - -
12142     This site has been moved.
12143     We'd tell you where, but then we'd
12144     have to delete you.
12145     - - -
12146     ABORTED effort:
12147     Close all that you have.
12148     You ask way too much.
12149     - - -
12150     First snow, then silence.
12151     This thousand dollar screen dies
12152     so beautifully.
12153     - - -
12154     With searching comes loss
12155     and the presence of absence:
12156     "My Novel" not found.
12157     - - -
12158     The Tao that is seen
12159     Is not the true Tao, until
12160     You bring fresh toner.
12161     - - -
12162     The Web site you seek
12163     cannot be located but
12164     endless others exist
12165     - - -
12166     Stay the patient course
12167     Of little worth is your ire
12168     The network is down
12169     - - -
12170     A crash reduces
12171     your expensive computer
12172     to a simple stone.
12173     - - -
12174     There is a chasm
12175     of carbon and silicon
12176     the software can't bridge
12177     - - -
12178     To have no errors
12179     Would be life without meaning
12180     No struggle, no joy
12181     - - -
12182     You step in the stream,
12183     but the water has moved on.
12184     This page is not here.
12185     - - -
12186     No keyboard present
12187     Hit F1 to continue
12188     Zen engineering?
12189     - - -
12190     Hal, open the file
12191     Hal, open the damn file, Hal
12192     open it, please Hal
12193     - - -
12194     Out of memory.
12195     We wish to hold the whole sky,
12196     But we never will.
12197     - - -
12198     Having been erased,
12199     The document you're seeking
12200     Must now be retyped.
12201     - - -
12202     The ten thousand things
12203     How long do any persist?
12204     Netscape, too, has gone.
12205     - - -
12206     Rather than a beep
12207     Or a rude error message,
12208     These words: "File not found."
12209     - - -
12210     Serious error.
12211     All shortcuts have disappeared
12212     Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
12213 root 1.387 %
12214 root 1.1 "The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way
12215     to factor large prime numbers." -- Bill Gates from "The Road Ahead," p. 265.
12216 root 1.387 %
12217 root 1.1 > What is the Windows equivalent of the first line used for
12218     > UNIX (#!/usr/local/bin/perl) that tells where the Perl interpreter is?
12219    
12220     Windows hasn't gotten quite as far in functionality as, say, BSD Unix in the
12221     early 1980s.
12222 root 1.387 %
12223 root 1.1 > I have a chat script, that will work fine for a bit then after a while
12224     > the private messages will stop working. It might be because I changed
12225     > something, but chances are that isn't the case. I re-install a fresh
12226     > copy, paths are correct, and they still don't work
12227    
12228     I think you are experiencing GOVERNMENT CONTROL. You see, everyone
12229     with a chat script is being scrutinised by the department of CHAT
12230     control. Whenever they see some message they don't like, they
12231     introduce some little goblin called feature-creep in your program. if
12232     you have lots of these little devils, your program migth acquire so
12233     many new features that it just stops working.
12234    
12235     This also applies to Microsoft products.
12236    
12237     > Does it make sense for certain features to just not work?! If you can
12238     > help, or have suggestions, get back to me, PLEASE:)
12239    
12240     Yes, it makes perfect sense. Especially if they're features which
12241     really are bugs. And especially if they're 'private' messages. You
12242     know perfectly well that the government doesn't like private messages.
12243    
12244     Hope this explains what's going on
12245     Martien Verbruggen
12246 root 1.387 %
12247 root 1.1 ...code? If you're on a misconfigured NT server (is that redundant?), you...
12248 root 1.387 %
12249 root 1.1 X11R6.1-based free X server compiles, links and crashes under IRIX(TM).
12250 root 1.387 %
12251 root 1.1 -------------- please bite here ------------- bitte hier abbeissen ---------
12252 root 1.387 %
12253 root 1.1 "Frag mal, auf was fuer uptimes man kommt, wenn man Software-Entwicklung
12254     unter NT macht..." "Das koennen bis zu dreissig Minuten werden - in der
12255     Mittagspause." -- Andreas Bogk, Kai Fett, de.alt.sysadmin.recovery
12256 root 1.387 %
12257 root 1.1 > ++ A lot of posters here have .sigs that include perl one liners.
12258     > ++ Is there a safe way to run them, and be assured that they wont
12259     > ++ damage and/or erase files? (or e-mail off my shadow file)
12260     >
12261     > Just make sure you understand it ;)
12262    
12263     I nominate Abigail for best response of the year with this one. Come to
12264     think of it, I nominate it for best response of next year, too.
12265 root 1.387 %
12266 root 1.1 Your moderator will be spending the next week on a beach on a small island
12267     where the phones don't work very well, so there won't be any comp.compilers
12268     until the 28th. Any messages you send in will wait here until I get back and
12269     should be posted on March 1st or 2nd.
12270 root 1.387 %
12271 root 1.1 But now, in comp.lang.perl.misc, you have a bunch of people who aren't
12272     even asking how to make the pieces fit together, but what the
12273     individual pieces are. ("How do I get my lego project to roll accross
12274     the table?" "You use one of those pieces that have the wheels
12275     attached.") Or questions that aren't about building at all. ("The
12276     motor stopped moving. How do I get it to start again?" "The batteries
12277     are probably dead. You can buy new batteries at any department or
12278     convienience store.")
12279 root 1.387 %
12280 root 1.1 : how do i make my perl script run?
12281     Get up at 91 minutes before dawn, clothe yourself in neon green body
12282 root 1.387 %
12283 root 1.1 for some reason Windoze users don't seem to expect docs to come with an archive
12284 root 1.424 >>> ToiLeTGoD
12285 root 1.1
12286     Well, well.. I always wondered who/what made that flush thingy work.
12287     Pretty cool name, dude. (not)
12288 root 1.387 %
12289 root 1.1 Ummm...create "comp.lang.perl.wizards", make it moderated and all posts,
12290     including xposts, go into /dev/null. Most FAQers won't have the Usenet
12291     background to understand that such groups are either a) a wasteland
12292     populated (briefly) by persons like themselves, or b) point to /dev/null.
12293 root 1.387 %
12294 root 1.1 Lazy people never bother to actually read the manual. Instead they (like
12295     kids) pick something with big, colorful buttons.
12296     -- Eugene Tyurin <gene@insti.physics.sunysb.edu>
12297 root 1.387 %
12298 root 1.1 The Average Person's Axioms of First Order Predicate Logic:
12299     (A => B) => (B => A)
12300     (There exists) x A(x) => (For all) x A(x)
12301     (A => C) & (B => C) => (A => B) - Warren Vonroeschlaub
12302 root 1.387 %
12303 root 1.1 cal 9 1752
12304 root 1.387 %
12305 root 1.1 Installing unix fixes the [VMS] bug.
12306     -Barry Shein
12307 root 1.387 %
12308 root 1.1 And this horrible free-for-all will be left to children wondering around
12309     by themselves in the dark because they refuse to turn on the light and
12310     read the manual.
12311 root 1.387 %
12312 root 1.1 "SPARC" is "CRAPS" backwards --Rob Pike
12313 root 1.387 %
12314 root 1.1 I increasingly begin to understand why some universities require
12315     that its compsci majors study the Euclid's Prime Number Theorem,
12316     the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, Cantor's Diagonalization Proof,
12317     Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem, and the ramifications of Halting Problem
12318     in everyday life. These may not be involved in daily programming, but
12319     it helps develop a rigorous mind. And it gives those who would progress
12320     from typist to word-processor devotee to HTML documenter to CGI scripter
12321     to distributed multithreaded operating systems design specialist cause
12322     for pause. You just can't do that without proper training.
12323 root 1.387 %
12324 root 1.1 comp.lang.perl.i'm-from-microsoft-so-won't-read-documentation
12325 root 1.387 %
12326 root 1.1 I suggest you install a newsserver, and keep a local spool. Anything else
12327     is too much work, and fairly silly. The Internet has catupulted even
12328     the Wintel victims past the days of BBS toys.
12329 root 1.387 %
12330 root 1.1 > Help help! Pls advise me thru email.
12331    
12332     I advise you to buy a new keyboard; one that has all the keys you
12333     need.
12334 root 1.387 %
12335 root 1.1 Christian Fundamentalism: The doctrine that there is an absolutely
12336     powerful, infinitely knowledgeable, universe spanning entity that is
12337     deeply and personally concerned about my sex life.
12338 root 1.387 %
12339 root 1.1 I find the first particularly useful in destroying the miswrapped
12340     lines stemming from brain-damaged "it's just another word processor"
12341     newsreaders. You know,
12342     those postings that always seem to go to the edge of the line and then
12343     back
12344     again to the start, as this paragraph has. These are just too painful
12345     to read. Just kill them. It's not worth your time trying to figure
12346     out what they're saying.
12347 root 1.387 %
12348 root 1.1 It is most annoying to receive junk mail describing how to purchase 93
12349     million addresses, while knowing that yours is one of them.
12350 root 1.387 %
12351 root 1.1 I'm surprised Tom, how could it miss the "X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT;
12352     U)" header line? Personally, I find the attempted use of Netscape as a
12353     newsreader even worse then the attempted use of WinNT as an OS. :-)
12354    
12355     But the combination.... *sutters*
12356 root 1.387 %
12357 root 1.1 Hm... my new killfile isn't detecting you're posting from Windows.
12358     Darn it.
12359 root 1.387 %
12360 root 1.1 At least he didn't post in all caps.
12361 root 1.387 %
12362 root 1.1 http://language.perl.com/CPAN-local/doc/FAQs/cgi/idiots-guide.html
12363 root 1.387 %
12364 root 1.1 I think the biggest problem with M.S.A. is that the scripts work for Matt, but
12365     the majority of people trying to use them are from the
12366     "Wintel/AOL/FrontPage/push-a-button/HTML-is-programming/no-programming-required"
12367     school of non-learning. It isn't a problem with the code, per se, but with those
12368     trying to use it.
12369 root 1.387 %
12370 root 1.1 "Linux can emulate an C64 on my AMDK6PR200 at full speed. Windows can't."
12371 root 1.387 %
12372 root 1.1 cdog wrote:
12373     >
12374     > Is this group active?
12375     No.
12376    
12377     If you had spent half a second LOOKING at the group before posting, you
12378     probably could have come to that conclusion yourself.
12379    
12380     On a personal note, I died 3 years, 8 days, 5 minutes, 16 seconds, and
12381     345 milliseconds ago, but who's counting.
12382 root 1.387 %
12383 root 1.1 "Security through obscurity is no security at all."
12384     -comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup posting
12385 root 1.387 %
12386 root 1.1 "Windows 95 will now attempt to blow chunks across your primary partition.
12387     Press any key to continue..."
12388 root 1.387 %
12389 root 1.1 NT 5.0 is the last nail in the Unix coffin. Interestingly, Unix
12390     isn't in the coffin... It's wondering what the heck is sealing
12391     itself into a wooden box 6 feet underground...
12392 root 1.387 %
12393 root 1.1 The Wall St Journal (1996-01-22, page 1) reported that Cuba is
12394     considering jumping across the International Date Line, just so that
12395     it's the first into the year 2000. So it's possible you'll have to
12396     adjust your travel plans.
12397 root 1.387 %
12398 root 1.388 "Wo kämen wir hin, wenn alle sagten, wo kämen wir hin, und niemand ginge
12399     hin, um einmal zu schauen, wohin man käme, wenn man ginge." -- Kurt Marti
12400 root 1.387 %
12401 root 1.1 The Takeuchi function is a popular benchmark of function calling due to its
12402     highly recursive nature. It's defined as:
12403    
12404     tak x y z = z, if y >= x
12405     = tak (tak (x-1) y z) (tak (y - 1) z x) (tak (z - 1) x y), otherwise
12406    
12407     For this benchmark, the function is invoked as:
12408    
12409     tak 18 12 6
12410 root 1.387 %
12411 root 1.1 "Nobody will ever need more than 640k RAM!"
12412     -- Bill Gates
12413     "Windows 95 needs at least 8 MB RAM."
12414     -- Bill Gates
12415     "Nobody will ever need Windows 95."
12416     -- logical conclusion
12417 root 1.387 %
12418 root 1.1 Year Name James Bond Book
12419     - ---- -------------------------------- -------------- ----
12420     50's James Bond TV Series Barry Nelson
12421     1962 Dr. No Sean Connery 1958
12422     1963 From Russia With Love Sean Connery 1957
12423     1964 Goldfinger Sean Connery 1959
12424     1965 Thunderball Sean Connery 1961
12425     1967* Casino Royale David Niven 1954
12426     1967 You Only Live Twice Sean Connery 1964
12427     1969 On Her Majesty's Secret Service George Lazenby 1963
12428     1971 Diamonds Are Forever Sean Connery 1956
12429     1973 Live And Let Die Roger Moore 1955
12430     1974 The Man With The Golden Gun Roger Moore 1965
12431     1977 The Spy Who Loved Me Roger Moore 1962 (novelette)
12432     1979 Moonraker Roger Moore 1955
12433     1981 For Your Eyes Only Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
12434     1983 Octopussy Roger Moore 1965
12435     1983* Never Say Never Again Sean Connery
12436     1985 A View To A Kill Roger Moore 1960 (novelette)
12437     1987 The Living Daylights Timothy Dalton 1965 (novelette)
12438     * -- Not a Broccoli production.
12439 root 1.387 %
12440 root 1.1 Windows NT: n.
12441     32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit
12442     operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written
12443     by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
12444 root 1.387 %
12445 root 1.388 Auf der Kiste läuft EHNIX, das ist ZUNIX kompatibel.